The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1115

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast for lotus eaters for thursday the

00:00:12.340 6th of march 2025 i'm john harry and kelly j keene and we're going to be talking about

00:00:18.540 the new phenomenon of the trans english

00:00:21.040 that's why i got you on uh how uh the the official state religion of britain appears to actually be

00:00:30.660 islam at the moment beautiful yeah uh which another just so quintessentially english thing

00:00:35.540 and uh how multiculturalism has been nothing but a basket of roses and flowers and sweets and

00:00:42.220 it's yeah oh yeah it's it's gonna be so i didn't want it to end this way but yeah it's gonna be

00:00:48.060 such a jolly segment it's gonna be so nice it's over yeah so uh anyway so there's been a a new

00:00:55.820 phenomenon in uh britain in particular england uh where a bunch of people who are clearly not

00:01:01.960 ethnically english have been like i'm english you know it's like right that's a very strange thing

00:01:08.400 why are we doing this exactly why why are we suddenly pretending like everyone who's here

00:01:15.180 is just english because they live in this country i reckon if you dilute what it means to be english

00:01:20.720 then anyone can be english therefore no one is english that's kind of where this is going then

00:01:25.500 we're kind of deprived of our own identities i would argue that that's the point yeah which a cynical

00:01:31.240 person might argue however as stellios pointed out the last time we discussed this is only ever

00:01:36.440 directed towards people of european ethnicities you would not make these kinds of arguments

00:01:41.000 with indians or chinese or japanese people i don't know i think maybe the japanese given that

00:01:47.040 they're trying to diversify that country at the moment i don't know i mean i'm a big fan of indian

00:01:51.240 poetry like rudyard kipling so you know india's greatest poet anyway before we uh go on uh we've

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00:02:21.520 islander issue three uh so this has been up for a week we've already sold half of the stock

00:02:26.340 um so that's fantastic basically get it while you can thank you to everybody who's bought a copy already

00:02:32.000 and thank you if you've already got it uh the copies are already arriving which is really great

00:02:36.680 because i was really worried we'd have another kerfuffle with the delivery times but no people

00:02:40.680 already getting them so everything is going great uh go and check that out so rishi sunak

00:02:47.080 back in 2023 so he's hugely proud of his indian roots and his connections to india he says as you

00:02:54.740 know my wife is indian and being a proud hindu means that i always have a connection to india and

00:02:59.180 the people of india one of the things i did after becoming prime minister was to hold a reception

00:03:03.320 for dilwani and 10 downing streets having the opportunity to welcome many british indians

00:03:08.080 number 10 seeing the building decorated from top to bottom in lights and flowers incredibly proud

00:03:12.300 and emotional moment for me because my story is the story of so many people in britain with deep

00:03:16.560 and enduring links to india the strength of our country lies in its diversity and something i've

00:03:20.880 seen many times firsthand since becoming prime minister okay that's great british indians then were

00:03:26.800 like oh well rishi sunak is giving us hope rishi sunak the first person of color of indian origin has

00:03:34.020 become the prime minister of great britain back in 2022 uh this historic milestone is the reason for

00:03:39.140 celebration can we not have a moment to appreciate how progressive this is for britain to celebrate how

00:03:44.520 far the world has moved from colonial times to modern day britain want to one that is open

00:03:48.880 inclusive and towards positive change and of course the indians were like oh well you are both dc

00:03:55.620 now do you know what dc means not besides the place in america no and you explained it to me

00:04:02.640 earlier so i'm going to spoil it it it means um basically a son of the soil of india oh it means

00:04:09.280 part of the the indians so it means indian it means yeah it literally means of the country right so it

00:04:15.260 means of india so the you're going with this i just well you'll see where i'm going so this was an

00:04:20.960 india today anchor called shivarul who was talking about this and he said well they're both

00:04:25.600 dc they're both indians and this is going to be a very special relationship between uh sunak and

00:04:31.180 modi which i agree i'm sure it would be i'm sure it was yeah there's a great amount of interest in

00:04:35.680 the indian origin british prime minister arriving in india he says okay i agree that was a big deal

00:04:41.480 for india which is why the indians celebrated it for ages and as they say it was a dilwali gift

00:04:49.980 i agree yeah many indians are delighted the prospect of rishi sunak becoming the first

00:04:53.900 person of indian origin to become a british prime minister as just as hindus around the world

00:04:58.000 celebrate dilwali and speaking of dilwali here is the traditional english celebration of dilwali

00:05:03.660 outside of number 10 with rishi and his family celebrating it that's fine it's all normal and so

00:05:09.500 to preface a lot of this not that there's anything wrong well yeah you know i think it's unusual that

00:05:16.220 this man is in was in charge of britain for a while but this thing like being indian in and of

00:05:21.120 itself is okay there's nothing shameful or wrong with that i mean narenda modi congratulated sunak

00:05:28.120 and sunak said well thank you for your kind words the uk and india share so much yeah they both have

00:05:33.280 indian prime ministers uh and rishi sunak was of course proud to be the first british asian prime

00:05:38.400 minister from his own words can i just say i just want to i just want to be on the record one last

00:05:43.400 thing and uh he said that you know his story represents the hope and dreams of the indian

00:05:48.580 diaspora so his is a story an example to other indians to follow so go on well i i i quite like

00:05:57.240 the man i like the man i don't you know i'm not going to say that he was the best thing ever for

00:06:01.680 britain and i i think that the light touch of his indian heritage i i think that we're all all right

00:06:10.120 well i'm all right with that i'm all right with this light touch of it i think british indians um

00:06:16.080 or people who live in britain of indian descent often uh are very much part of the culture without

00:06:23.720 attacking and hating the british culture so i'm i'm i'm quite okay with him and how he treated his

00:06:30.820 heritage and as he said i'm proud to be the first british asian pm and i'm even proud of it it's not a

00:06:34.720 big deal the thing is it wasn't a big deal the big deal about rishi was that he was put in after

00:06:39.300 liz truss was cooed out yeah yeah that was the that was the interesting thing about rishi sunak

00:06:44.020 but like as you say you know there's there's nothing objectionable on a personal level about

00:06:48.140 i find it very difficult to hate somebody like rishi sunak because it feels like bullying

00:06:52.540 because he's such a like chicken run character meek nerd type um i feel like if i if i were to be too

00:06:59.520 cruel to the man i feel like i'd hear reports that he was like going into the bathroom crying yeah yeah i

00:07:04.300 agree rishi rishi on a personal level seems like a really nice chap and there's nothing wrong with him

00:07:09.200 being indian and celebrating his indian heritage or anything like that absolutely nothing wrong

00:07:13.900 with it it is weird though that now that the conversation has been sparked that well of

00:07:19.320 course rishi sunak is english says the new statesman after constantin kissin pointed out

00:07:23.700 correctly you're not english though are you richie and rishi was like no of course i'm english

00:07:29.440 right oh his argument for such being i own a labrador i like cricket okay so let's watch this

00:07:37.860 uh clip quickly because he did uh he did a little interview uh talking about this and i think just

00:07:42.560 pay attention to his body language oh we would if that's born here brought up here i it's uh yeah

00:07:51.680 of course i'm english actually funnily enough i think i think when we were doing that first one of

00:07:57.600 these some time back you asked about the tebbit test and i think you did um i did yeah and it

00:08:05.180 struck me actually funny that this debate it kind of it moves well beyond that because it's not enough

00:08:12.940 just to support england at cricket it turns out it may not be enough to even play for england in

00:08:19.680 cricket or football you you still can't be english you look at the composition of our england cricket

00:08:24.860 team england football team on cricket was not the oldest sport in the world and we existed as an

00:08:32.260 ethnic group before cricket how did the english identify themselves as english well maybe they

00:08:37.420 couldn't maybe we just always thought of ourselves as uh some nebulous concept of just a cluster of

00:08:44.280 cells that just walked upon the earth and occasionally ate some food i think that's how alfred put it when

00:08:49.080 they were defending against the vikings yeah pretty sure that was in henry the fifth speech in france

00:08:53.360 yeah yeah it's a bit weird isn't it especially like why are you talking about football teams and

00:08:58.200 cricket teams at all and and are they sat in a school classroom because those chairs and tables

00:09:04.780 are very small i just as an aside that's a good point i mean it would make sense because rishi

00:09:08.800 himself is a very small man he again very bullyable which is why it would just feel very cruel to do so

00:09:14.220 the the funny thing is if you go back to that new statesman article i actually looked at that the

00:09:19.000 other day for a daily video that that one if you scroll down far enough you find the same way that

00:09:25.320 we did with the politics joe discussion oh yeah they said oh wait back up again that paragraph there

00:09:30.640 if kissin said that sunak isn't a white anglo-sanglo-saxon protestant a wasp generally american term

00:09:38.040 he would be on safer ground at least in a descriptive sense in fact this is what is really meant by ethnic

00:09:43.260 english because it's undeniably true that most most doing a lot of heavy lifting they're all in

00:09:48.640 fact english people belong in that category and have an ancestral lineage on these isles that goes

00:09:53.200 back centuries okay so as always they give up the point which is if you're english you descend from

00:09:58.180 the anglo-saxons yes and you could be considered an anglo-saxon still that's that's all the point that

00:10:04.000 i'm making there doesn't need to be a value judgment in any of this and there is as again stelios

00:10:08.720 pointed out there is a legal and cultural argument that you could make it as of it as well because

00:10:14.200 you know he doesn't have to say that he's ethnically english but rishi could be referring to the fact

00:10:19.160 that he has been raised in the culture of england surrounding him and therefore identifies with that

00:10:24.280 and feels at home when he's here that's all a fair argument but if you if you're talking purely

00:10:29.120 about the identity it's down to ancestry heritage you inherit your you know i if again if i was born

00:10:36.860 in india and raised within that culture you could say and you know stuck to that culture and believed

00:10:42.340 in their religions i could say perhaps i'm uh they would call me an orientalist these days but i could

00:10:48.640 be called perhaps culturally indian but there's no way that they would say that i'm like descended from

00:10:53.860 the same people as them because i'm not no and they would recognize that which is why when it came

00:10:58.160 to decolonization in india there was no question about who was getting kicked out no what can you

00:11:02.680 be racist then against someone who is black but calls it but is english like it does racism actually

00:11:09.540 ever anymore exist if race doesn't really exist i am um can can you experience racism um i can but

00:11:20.080 we'll save that for segment two i know i know people that lived in china their third their second

00:11:24.620 or third generation living in china their their parents are from argentina and america they aren't

00:11:31.320 chinese they're not called the chinese are not having it not even for one millisecond there was an

00:11:38.440 interesting video that i saw pop up on youtube a few months ago was an englishman who was born and

00:11:44.340 raised in japan by english parents who knew the language very fluently spoke it all the time he

00:11:51.140 said culturally that he was japanese but he was like well of course i'm i'm still english i'm an

00:11:55.720 englishman in japan who's been raised in this culture he was very respectful of it obviously he

00:12:00.760 had friends there they all accepted him he had assimilated but he was there was no like harsh

00:12:06.480 judgment from him saying well i'm an englishman in japan i don't see why there needs to be some kind of

00:12:10.840 negative value judgment attached to such a statement yeah and it's only people like fraser nelson

00:12:16.160 uh who are taking objection to this really because any right-thinking normal human being obviously that

00:12:22.280 category excludes fraser nelson uh would just say well he's an indian man obviously which is why

00:12:26.900 india recognizes him as such but he was born and raised in england and so he's culturally very english

00:12:32.360 as harry's pointing out there's nothing wrong with this this isn't an objectionable thing

00:12:37.460 well what's nelson's angle then why does he why does he need to push this just to be a contrarian

00:12:43.200 no he's an extreme liberal i think he's an extreme ideologue yes he's an extreme liberal ideologue and

00:12:48.960 so his issue is that if we if we have a particular ethnic identity that is is an indigenous one that

00:12:59.020 is exclusive to people on essentially what he would say bio-essentialist grounds uh then that means

00:13:05.400 is that people like rishi sunak and of course here city khan um have a less claim to england

00:13:12.000 as a concept than we do which i think is true so who decides whether or not rishi sunak is

00:13:19.000 english rishi sunak or everybody else i think nature has decided i think reality but like from from

00:13:25.360 fraser nelson's kind of logical conclusion point of view is it self-identification self-identification

00:13:31.360 there we go yeah exactly this is where we arrive at the trans english position i think furthermore

00:13:35.940 on fraser nelson because he is as stated a liberal ideologue the idea of borders which he's not a huge

00:13:42.740 fan of and distinctions between peoples in the first place uh prevents people from being considered

00:13:49.100 just the mass indistinguishable man that can be used solely for gaining gdp points if the line can't

00:13:57.400 go if if something is in the way of the line going up and we know that fraser loves his lines going up

00:14:02.560 because he was bragging about how england was the only country um within europe to have a increasing

00:14:08.840 working age population not actual not working not working but working age population then that was

00:14:15.720 absolute gangbusters for him he was over the moon about such a thing he is and uh and so i think when

00:14:22.680 you find yourself on the same side as sadiq khan and any argument then maybe you aren't conservative

00:14:27.980 and maybe you shouldn't be writing for a conservative newspaper or anything like that

00:14:33.640 uh so the fact that you can say well put by sadiq khan on anything is just remarkable but um but let's

00:14:39.800 let's quickly uh i mean this is a remarkable thing anyway sadiq khan again i don't really have to go to

00:14:45.140 any length to explain how sadiq khan has stressed that he is a pakistani muslim man because that's something

00:14:51.420 yeah but he hides it he doesn't ever like oh yeah when does he ever rely on their votes or anything

00:14:56.880 yeah no he doesn't he's an upstanding man yeah uh but this is sadiq khan's position he is our country's

00:15:02.400 first uh hindu prime minister he is somebody who i think in years to come will continue to be a role

00:15:09.800 model for young people for backgrounds if you close your eyes and listen to sunak he's like jeeves

00:15:15.920 in worcester i mean he's quintessentially english vocal boards made a tweed i mean this guy went to

00:15:21.780 oxford he was a banker for goodness sake and became a member of parliament for the conservative

00:15:26.640 party in william haig's former seat what else does sunak have to do to prove his englishness

00:15:33.620 he was born to an english parent at least one you know he was a banker that's an ethnic slur

00:15:41.640 actually he's playing into the phidias albion right there how dare you it's a roast dinner

00:15:47.920 he once ate a roast dinner if you close your eyes and he's speaking in an english accent he's english

00:15:52.920 by this by this standard you're not english you never went to oxford you're not a banker

00:15:56.920 no you know well my mum worked at a bank once oh really so maybe with rachel reeves

00:16:01.760 although she is about as qualified as rachel reeves yeah so like what again this this bizarre sort of

00:16:09.000 well if i wear the costume of being english then surely i am english and in some senses that's okay

00:16:15.720 and it can be respectful it can be a show of appreciation you know imitation is the most sincere

00:16:20.440 form of flattery but in other ways it can also be subversive and it can also be a way of taking

00:16:26.280 something away from you as i'm sure you're aware with the issues you regularly talk about

00:16:32.020 it does feel the same doesn't it yeah and so with rishi sunak i don't feel that rishi sunak hates

00:16:37.320 england and the english no i actually think he probably quite likes it and for him this probably was

00:16:42.880 like oh i got the prime minister of britain this is actually really nice for someone like sadiq khan

00:16:47.720 though can't help but feel that he does hate english and he is being deliberately subversive

00:16:53.440 so uh don't approve it especially as i mean you would think that the sadiq khan would

00:16:57.640 be slightly more reticent to be like hey guys i made the asian power list or whatever this is you

00:17:03.860 know and it's like did he post that yes yeah he's the top of the asian power list it's like why would

00:17:09.220 they put an englishman at the top of the asian power list sadiq yeah well cultural appropriation

00:17:13.940 isn't it i would say it's taking that away from a poor south asian person exactly english man

00:17:19.000 exactly how could that be and so obviously we are we are shown the complete fiction of this and ed

00:17:25.220 dunn summarized it quite nicely uh sadiq khan claiming his english is a little different from

00:17:29.260 india willoughby fan of yours uh claiming he's a woman except india at least tries to appear and

00:17:34.160 behave like stereotypical woman so i don't know what stereotypical woman that is but um he does wear the

00:17:42.820 costume every day there we go right so there we go and so uh yeah so the question i want to ask then

00:17:50.920 is why are they doing this right because nobody really thinks these people are english they think

00:17:57.700 of them as indian and pakistani what what is the push for this well because if we don't have a

00:18:03.500 collective where we recognize each other as a community the english then we don't stand to fight

00:18:09.580 for attacks on us because we don't exist and so they we don't have any loyalty i think tucker

00:18:14.680 carlson talked to people in australia and said if you raise your population to hate you they won't

00:18:19.940 defend you because they won't feel they're part of anything to defend and i think when we look at um

00:18:25.260 how the english came out against uh the murderers at the murders in southport and how those english

00:18:33.960 sort of rallied around as a community and wanting to protect their own they were they're basically

00:18:39.260 now being all right yeah absolutely i mean they went to jail quick this this contrasts with something

00:18:45.040 i covered yesterday when i was talking about the uh pro and uh pro-palestine and israel marches and

00:18:51.340 sorts of things that go on in uh uk cities recently which was some actor who'd been in the crown who had a

00:18:57.320 a very british british name to him had attended some pro-palestine rally and had been put picked up

00:19:05.900 by the police and taken in for a statement regarding it and all of a sudden when it's his group and his

00:19:12.720 issue he comes out saying the right to protest is being taken away from us in this country

00:19:17.980 radio silence last august when people were being picked up off the streets while they were going to

00:19:23.900 attend peaceful uh peaceful protests that were then mischaracterized as riots by the media because

00:19:29.860 that wasn't his group that wasn't his issue these people like sadiq for instance rishi i'm less

00:19:36.320 inclined to put like malicious intent on i don't think he's malicious i think he's a bit i think he's

00:19:42.360 a bit hapless if anything he does look like if you if you've watched the recent wallace and grommets

00:19:47.380 where they've started to put a bit more diversity in there he does come across like a wallace and

00:19:51.540 grommet character he does look just like one yeah um cartoon rodent or something you know that he

00:19:56.280 was the least did he go to eton or winchester or one of them you know that he was just he do you

00:20:02.620 remember um uh spitting image and there was the is it david owen or david steel david owen david

00:20:09.360 steel one of them was in a pocket do you are you old enough to remember that but even so i was about

00:20:15.420 25 no he was um but there's like a little sort of big eared uh little tiny politician in a pocket

00:20:21.920 and rishi reminds me of that of just like i mean he'll just say whatever he should you know he'll

00:20:27.380 just say whatever he should in a tiny voice to make sure that nobody hates him and he can just

00:20:31.500 quietly retire we're in america um i think that's his plan uh in with sadiq khan i do think it is much

00:20:38.920 more malicious uh with this sort of thing because if you look at this whole thing from a a group

00:20:44.740 dynamic perspective uh looking for resource acquisition uh sadiq has done everything he can

00:20:50.720 to advance his group and his group and what's the easiest way to prevent the other group from

00:20:55.640 defending themselves well just convince them that they're not really a group and that anybody can

00:20:59.200 be part of your group so it doesn't matter if you don't exist you can't defend yourselves i think i

00:21:03.100 think you're basically both on the right point here because i think that they can feel that

00:21:06.600 something is changing because i think that for the last at least 25 years we've seen um a lot of

00:21:14.100 group advocacy at the expense of the english in england was the council of great britain and why is it

00:21:21.280 here yeah why does such a thing exist and it's got to the point now where after the boris wave of

00:21:25.960 immigration um it's undeniable that something is going wrong with the country on a demographic level

00:21:34.140 they're coming it's coming it is coming and i think that people like these and the reason that

00:21:40.740 you know an ex-prime minister is talking about the mayor of london is talking about it and what this

00:21:44.920 has come from is basically twitter and ons i think you know people on twitter being like what the hell

00:21:49.000 is this you know i think this conversation we push on i think they're sensitive to it because i think

00:21:53.480 that they are aware that the english are starting to gain a kind of self-consciousness of their own

00:21:58.560 saying well hang on a second everyone else understands themselves to be part of these

00:22:02.800 groups why don't we have a group why have we been introduced you've also got to be an oppressed group

00:22:08.280 often to really kind of group to really form a nice juicy collective you've got to be oppressed and

00:22:15.540 and i would say that the the apathy of the english means that we haven't really noticed and it's just

00:22:21.240 happening to the scummy people in that scummy place and it's nothing to do with us we would never

00:22:25.880 talk about that kind of attitude in my segment oh good well i'll i'll i'll i'll postpone but i'm

00:22:31.920 what i do think is with the group dynamics and being english if you're part of a sort of an elite where

00:22:39.640 you can be a global player then you don't really have to worry about being english or not you can say

00:22:44.800 it for some sort of fashion statement and you can say it because you've got some money tied up

00:22:49.740 somewhere in some land but for most people it's neither here nor there but it's the working class i think

00:22:55.700 that that need their collective and their communities because they're being totally decimated

00:22:59.880 and told that they're racist at the same time if they say well i just don't want our girls to be

00:23:04.740 murdered or stared at or stabbed or you know i just want them left alone then clearly you're a racist

00:23:11.900 yeah and again this is something within the group dynamics that like group evolutionary psychologists

00:23:17.240 have pointed out that even if you have no sort of consciousness of yourself all of a sudden if an

00:23:22.320 opposing group that identifies you as a member of an opposing group comes about it's very very natural

00:23:28.440 for people to suddenly get their defenses up and begin to recognize and categorize themselves in that

00:23:34.140 way because as you've mentioned we've never really had to do that in this country before up until the

00:23:39.500 past few decades and it's only just beginning to emerge outside of the lower and working class areas

00:23:45.500 and i i genuinely think that they can feel this coming on the horizon yeah and they don't want to

00:23:50.960 be left on the outside of it i think they're they're thinking right so if a kind of english consciousness

00:23:56.680 rises in england where does that place sadiq khan uh that places sadiq khan in a in an oppositional

00:24:03.360 position he's so awful he is because he is one of the most loathsome people that ever is on our screen

00:24:10.540 he's he's always adopted an oppositional position on the understanding that the mass majority native

00:24:16.820 population england's still 75 75 english well according to the last census which is now wildly

00:24:22.160 out of date because there's been like a few million yeah they have since then yeah yeah but they they

00:24:28.480 are worried that oh well this was never the case before and it's looking like it might be the case in

00:24:33.080 future and so i think what they're trying to do is um essentially prevent us from being able to

00:24:38.760 delineate between us and them do you think there's also an element because i often feel

00:24:43.620 that it's being done so much and rubbed in your face like there's so much that's happening to people

00:24:49.080 that you're told oh look look at this violence over here oh it's not violence you can't really see it and

00:24:53.960 if you see it you're a racist um it's so overt now that i do feel it's it's meant to provoke people

00:25:00.000 into anger because if you if you take everything away they've got nothing to lose and if you give someone

00:25:04.800 nothing to lose and then they you have no idea what they will do and i i just keep feeling like

00:25:10.400 we're being provoked into some sort of situation where then they can they can stop us being able

00:25:15.900 to speak online or they can stop us being able to protest and all of these things are i feel like

00:25:22.320 they're done on purpose and they're strategic and they know what they're doing i think so i think

00:25:26.280 there's that's an element to it as well as a kind of what one thing to remember is that these groups

00:25:33.480 view themselves in contradistinction to us with a history with us and so while we think okay i'm just

00:25:40.060 a person who lives in 21st century britain and i'm just a random person floating around well that

00:25:45.740 might be your conception of yourself but rishi sunak and the indians were like oh wow we've got an

00:25:50.640 indian prime minister of britain and there were there were headlines in india there's like you know

00:25:54.060 india has conquered britain this is revenge for the empire and things like this pops where they

00:25:58.260 were going around finally we're getting payback exactly right so you you might be that bad well

00:26:03.700 well i mean well yeah he didn't do a great job did he let's be honest but um but you know we might

00:26:10.640 have this very neutral time independent liberal view of ourselves but other people don't have this

00:26:17.360 and so um that's just something to be aware of anyway uh the hapsification says welcome citizens

00:26:24.440 of eucadia we are just as native eucadians as you we're all eucadians now and that's kind of uh kind

00:26:31.100 of what it is um anyway so let's let's move on from the trans english to the fact that the british state

00:26:39.440 appears to just have the one state religion now and that state religion appears to be islam

00:26:44.860 and i didn't ever vote yeah i didn't didn't sign up for that wasn't certainly part of a manifesto

00:26:52.320 that i ever read yeah and it's not not very english if we're talking about that mr khan

00:26:56.560 um but before we before we do go and get islander issue three is out now we've been demonetized again

00:27:01.900 on youtube so you know thanks very much youtube uh wonderful come and sign up come and support us

00:27:07.260 go and buy it is a really good magazine so you will like it uh beautifully modeled there uh but uh right

00:27:14.080 so let's go back to our favorite mayor of london uh done with him today no no we're never never

00:27:22.460 going to be dumb as he can't because he's going to be the mayor of london until time itself stops

00:27:26.700 functioning um london was the first city in the western world to host ramadan lights display

00:27:31.400 to sit it's a powerful symbol of who we are as londoners well i would have thought that ramadan

00:27:36.580 lights would have been a powerful symbol of muslims which again fine as you'd expect of course muslims

00:27:42.820 celebrate ramadan so that's fine a whole month a whole month but that's hardly diverse and inclusive

00:27:47.660 it's actually really exclusionary so what sadiq khan is kind of unconsciously saying here

00:27:53.040 is that to be a londoner kind of have to be a muslim at least in some way

00:27:57.120 so interesting am i okay that's uh for a proud english i just note as well the holy month of

00:28:04.200 ramadan so any of the other religious festivals that i've read number one i don't think he mentions

00:28:08.740 jesus ever uh number two the word holy doesn't appear with the word christian or the word diwali

00:28:15.920 or any of them only holy month of ramadan which really really annoyed me yeah yeah

00:28:22.740 anyway uh kirstama then came out and was like yes of course and let's let's watch this because

00:28:29.540 i mean this is just the most uh like glazing glazing doesn't do it justice you see muslims

00:28:38.300 making a difference helping deliver every single one of the government's missions in business

00:28:45.880 helping to grow our economy in education giving our young people the opportunities that they deserve

00:28:53.680 in our nhs of course in charity work british muslims are amongst the most generous group in the united

00:29:01.440 kingdom and beyond so i must say thank you to you for all of that and particularly what i know

00:29:09.620 has been a very difficult time for muslims here in the united kingdom

00:29:14.220 with the pain of the conflict in gaza and the suffering of the palestinians

00:29:21.340 i've been profoundly moved by the images of thousands of palestinians returning to their

00:29:28.120 communities i mean what else can be said i mean yeah they're making a difference in this uh country

00:29:36.300 aren't they well not is it a good difference not a gdp difference well no the crime statistics

00:29:42.700 the working age people yeah oh yeah yeah yeah uh loads dependents plenty of them like the idea

00:29:51.460 that he's essentially saying look sanguineous marriage that's what we'll get to that uh britain

00:29:57.180 would collapse if it wasn't for muslims essentially it's a lovely isn't it a nice thing to to be

00:30:03.340 like if i just if i forget how much i really do love the the political movement the globalist political

00:30:10.180 movement of islam and just say like it's great that a prime minister would say to anybody of any

00:30:15.760 faith oh happy whatever your festival is that's great but to sort of say muslims have done this

00:30:22.800 muslims it's a very bizarre thing to do anyway because it's not statistically necessarily true

00:30:28.800 and it will always then say muslims are doing this and the message really is others not so much

00:30:35.660 yes or i'm not talking about others i'm just talking about this one group of people and

00:30:39.540 and it's really divisive come out and praise the english on like you know dill wali's to come out

00:30:45.020 and praise the hindus well he might praise sadiq maybe on saint george's day so maybe yeah praise

00:30:49.500 the english after all but uh yeah but um but yeah this this was really weird uh kind of uncalled for and

00:30:57.380 looked i mean it's strange that you get into the realm of worship it's just very like what what are you

00:31:03.080 what are you what is the point who told you to do this and it reminds me of angela rayner doing the

00:31:08.460 i'm very pleased to be with these constituents and she's in a group of all men all muslim men in a

00:31:15.000 room it's as a as a woman hostage yeah but but as a as a woman honestly it's really frightening it

00:31:21.740 should frighten us all but as as a female looking at how the women in iran and afghanistan were looking

00:31:27.460 in the 70s and 80s and how they look right now i think if you're not frightened of this creep

00:31:32.300 this islamic creep then you're not paying attention yeah i mean it's genuinely and what he said as well

00:31:38.140 was you're helping deliver the government's targets or missions and it's like right so are you saying

00:31:43.340 the muslim community in britain is a client group of the government that is somehow advancing the

00:31:48.460 government's agenda i mean that's that's yes that is yeah seems to be word for word what he's saying

00:31:53.080 i mean prior to being um put in as prime minister he had that meeting with sadiq khan where he

00:31:59.180 explicitly said we need to do more to tackle anti uh like islamophobia wow and he was going to bring

00:32:04.120 in his prosecutorial experience yeah without saying anything about what it was so let's let's say he

00:32:10.600 was right and there'd been this spate of attacks right which we know there haven't been there've

00:32:14.600 been criticisms they use organizations like tell mama to judge such things and they are an explicit

00:32:20.140 like really ethno-religious interest group who try to blow up all these statistics uh to make it look

00:32:25.760 as bad as possible whereas really it's just people calling to tell mama going i felt threatened today

00:32:30.540 it's it's really that blasphemy is coming back isn't it but i mean it's already back with hate speech so

00:32:36.580 yeah anyway so uh you you were saying about the consanguitous marriages uh well uh robert jenrich and

00:32:43.680 the conservatives have been trying to put a bill through to ban cousin marriage which again nobody in

00:32:49.520 england should have an objection to but it's strange that we have to do it in the first place

00:32:53.900 yeah exactly even though i'd say disgusting so i i would sort of i i talk about it being gross and

00:32:58.340 disgusting because i i know my cousins yeah and weirdly weirdly they were always out of the dating pool

00:33:03.980 um and and i feel it's also not from cornwall it's not very tolerant but it's it's it's really what

00:33:11.860 you used to be able to say well you can say i still do say um you know i would say pakistani muslim

00:33:17.860 i don't know if you can say that word without getting cancelled on your channel uh i'm going

00:33:22.820 to say it in the next segment so don't worry you can say the word r-a-p-e can you uh yeah i mean

00:33:27.780 okay so pakistani muslim rape gangs um you you you have to kind of say asian you were supposed to say

00:33:34.140 asian grooming gangs and then actually it's not all asians um and then with this sort of grossness

00:33:40.180 of incest like i'd say it was incest um and it produces only scientifically yeah i mean and so

00:33:47.900 you're not allowed to someone it's a group of muslim men i was arguing with them about it the

00:33:51.620 other day they were they were saying oh it's not gross i was like oh it's not gross i get to decide

00:33:56.300 what i think is gross like anyway uh sorry you know who doesn't think it's gross

00:34:01.420 khalik khan of course right because you know the conserves is like look maybe starma just there

00:34:08.980 like well i mean who didn't have a crush on their sexy cousin when they were younger

00:34:12.340 that's not what he's doing he's saying no look we we have to protect the muslim community we're a

00:34:18.520 multicultural society this is part of their culture therefore you being a racist and trying

00:34:22.920 to stop that would be tantamount to essentially hate speech or something those birth defects

00:34:28.320 they're great for gdp or something racist yeah the nhs would be nowhere without birth defects yeah

00:34:34.560 and so so what we can see is the the government and the instruments of government are essentially a

00:34:42.420 muslim advancement scheme that rely on the muslims to do their agenda and are intent on making the

00:34:49.540 muslims front and center so basically what they're saying is this is an islamic state this is for

00:34:55.660 muslims it's like the halal slaughter and loads of halal meat is now on school menus and my it's

00:35:01.760 on my kids school menu um which i wouldn't let them have actually because i totally fundamentally

00:35:06.400 disagree with anything it i don't care whether animal slaughter is humane or not we can have that

00:35:12.220 argument that it probably isn't but we made our laws and rules and we made a decision in this country

00:35:18.040 what was okay and how we should slaughter animals why then either jewish or muslim should be able to

00:35:24.660 come in and say well we do it like this well okay then don't eat meat like just don't do it

00:35:29.620 order it from overseas but it's very it's very bizarre that that we we do this all the time as

00:35:36.120 english identifiably english people we do it all the time going what's the harm yeah let's just do it

00:35:42.200 let's just let's just let's just let them and then the next minute you can't go somewhere and actually

00:35:47.640 get meat that isn't halal yeah so anyway on that note no no you're absolutely right i think i think

00:35:53.200 the most recent one that i've seen was that in manchester the five guys there has now switched

00:35:59.380 to a fully halal menu i mean that i don't think you can get like a bacon cheeseburger there anymore

00:36:05.200 that's just responding to market demand five guys burger if you can't get bacon on it five pillars

00:36:09.880 you know what we'll we'll get to we'll get to that uh so um so you might think okay so the the

00:36:18.200 government's screwed uh the the the state is generally against us so we could at least go to

00:36:24.100 the church for some christianity and uh good luck with that because this is what they posted

00:36:29.920 on their social media feed on shrove tuesday now wait they're talking net zero yeah net zero

00:36:37.920 that is a religion right yes yes it is and the the real religion is in the uh revealed behaviors of

00:36:46.060 what a person does you know if you if you go to the mosque every day and you pray five times a day

00:36:50.660 you can really say now that person is a true muslim uh if you're constantly posting about net zero and

00:36:55.980 you've got nothing to say on shrove tuesday about jesus christ maybe then you can probably say the

00:37:01.160 church of england's real religion isn't christianity and it wasn't until the next day they're like oh yeah

00:37:07.000 good point there's something going on isn't there isn't it like yeah that's right ash wednesday

00:37:11.620 lent something yeah yeah something like that oh god get the bible quick you know like what's in here

00:37:16.680 exactly has anyone read this um so the church of england not much use when it comes to uh defending

00:37:25.520 the traditional faith i just say to all people if your children go to a church of england school do

00:37:29.960 have a look at their trans inclusion policies because you will find they teach that nonsense yeah

00:37:33.760 their religion is woke catholic schools as well there's a catholic school near my house that has

00:37:40.820 an enormously like you can see it from the street this enormous murals uh dedicated to equity diversity

00:37:48.520 and inclusion on the wall and i aren't you supposed to be just teaching like about catholicism and other

00:37:54.460 things that schools are supposed to be teaching like maths and english yeah and so you might be like okay

00:37:59.400 well um can we go above the prime minister can we go above the church well the queen's dead so yeah

00:38:05.840 who's in charge of britain on a technical level it's king charles right in the united kingdom uh he is the

00:38:12.540 head of the church of england so you would think that king charles defender of the faith might want to

00:38:18.660 step in and say uh excuse me church of england we're a protestant christian country would you like to do

00:38:24.640 something about that but he's never really been a big fan of protestant christianity he does have a

00:38:29.980 few things to say about islam though um he's been saying these as you can see this quite a young

00:38:34.480 you know well quite young quote unquote uh from charles from a few years ago it's been going around and

00:38:39.680 the rights of muslim women to property and inheritance and to the conducting of business

00:38:44.300 were rights prescribed by the quran 1400 years ago some of these rights were novel even to my

00:38:50.400 grandmothers generation think what could be achieved if mothers and fathers the teachers

00:38:56.180 and madrassas and imams all sought to demonstrate to children how to translate islamic teachings into

00:39:03.140 practical action many of the traits on which modern europe prides itself came to it from muslim spain

00:39:09.520 diplomacy free trade open borders techniques of academic research of anthropology etiquette fashion

00:39:18.400 from spain open borders that's a contradiction islam is part of our power this isn't that

00:39:26.320 incredible like basically uh every virtue that europe has comes from islam can i just say that

00:39:31.380 is it judeo-christian values or spanish islamic values that made europe great well you know when

00:39:38.260 they slaughtered the spanish it was that um oh yeah yeah can i just i just want to offer one defense

00:39:43.340 of this and how this is put together could this not be part of a longer speech that was

00:39:48.080 basically reminding muslims that the recession of women's rights which operates so successfully in

00:39:54.560 muslim countries is not actually part it is part of the teachings of quran i think we all know that

00:39:59.440 because i've read the quran but you could argue that there they they made it so far all those years ago

00:40:05.980 to be so regressive now is nonsensical could that not be argued that aside from the open borders bit

00:40:12.280 maybe he was saying something quite instructive i mean he probably is and that probably is the case

00:40:17.920 but to say that everything good about europe like diplomacy free trade come on muhammad was diplomatic

00:40:24.980 it was like he's very diplomatic or die i mean outside of any what was politics by other means says

00:40:31.020 muhammad yeah outside of even any christian values that you would want to attribute um to your i would

00:40:36.180 just say what made europe great and gave us all our values was just the the people first and foremost

00:40:41.360 the european people no it was the muslims in spain oh yeah but anyone's european so yeah exactly

00:40:46.660 open borders okay there's open borders open borders that's such a bizarre thing to say well especially

00:40:51.240 when you think about how the muslims came to be in spain that it was an invasion yeah they sent 80

00:40:56.100 000 men over and conquered the visigothic kingdom in spain so you know they tried to get open borders

00:41:01.600 tried to get into northern france and we had to beat them back yeah you're all proper blokes here

00:41:05.940 aren't you so you're all massively into your yeah military history history yeah i mean i i know all

00:41:10.580 about the guy who stopped islam from going further in i mean come on the crusades are kind of awesome

00:41:14.800 aren't we looking back on the crusades now with more of a like an oh well they were kind of that

00:41:19.660 well they're great well no i agree i think i think there's this idea that they were terrible but

00:41:24.940 they were necessary trying to convince people um like european people that the crusades were some kind of

00:41:30.880 evil incursion into peaceful islamic territory it's just been another avenue of attack for people

00:41:36.840 when we were defending ourselves i mean again the fact that spain was almost entirely muslim except

00:41:43.280 for a tiny little mountain range at the very far north of it should say it all yeah i mean i recently

00:41:48.840 went to um rio and i was talking to a brazilian woman just on the english thing just harking back to

00:41:53.880 the english thing and the everyone in brazil is brazilian and there's no you don't even look back

00:41:59.300 so she her parents from from lebanon and so she would say that you know someone nobody would say

00:42:05.280 you lebanese brazilian you're just all brazilian i was like yeah because you're all from somewhere

00:42:10.680 else so therefore your unification is the fact that you're from somewhere else and you live in

00:42:14.720 this country but that isn't the same as in england like i would and this is before this i happen to

00:42:21.180 have the same discussion with her about being english i was making this point because it's very much a

00:42:26.140 new world old world old world split because in the old world countries and land masses are named

00:42:31.240 after tribes whereas in the new world land mass the people name themselves after the land mass

00:42:36.920 so americans are not americans because america was named after a tribe called the americans

00:42:41.360 they called themselves americans when they got there because the land mass had already been named

00:42:45.300 but england is called england because of the anglo-saxons and so it's a complete inversion of what's

00:42:50.940 happening is the further americanization of europe basically um but anyway so king charles you might

00:42:56.280 say well this was a few years ago maybe he's changed his mind well no obviously not here you know he's

00:43:00.940 packing dates for the iftar celebrations yeah but with sausages with his sausage fingers

00:43:06.120 what he's doing yeah exactly like when this is in the history books so right so there were

00:43:18.880 islamic rape gangs running around and what was king talking about he's packing dates at iftar obviously

00:43:23.260 why wouldn't he be like embarrassing but anyway so they it's silly isn't he he's a bit silly

00:43:29.460 embarrassing i hate it so they had uh the iftar in windsor castle and i mean i've got friends who

00:43:35.560 are like in other countries which is like wow this is the sort of thing that you normally do to

00:43:38.580 people when they've been conquered it's like huh that's a good point

00:43:41.420 massively disrespectful at the very least it's not a carol is it a horrible awful wailing

00:43:53.640 i would describe it yeah i'm not a fan of it uh and it should never have been permitted i like

00:43:58.860 screaming heavy metal and i'm like no that's not not for me and and again there's a sort of

00:44:03.900 another americanism where it's like oh don't we have a separation of church and state it's like no

00:44:06.800 the head of state is literally the head of the church we are not uh an american republic right

00:44:11.620 and so why is why why are muslims being allowed to go into windsor castle and why are they why are

00:44:17.220 they and the only answer i can give is that well i mean our state religion appears to be islam

00:44:24.580 the thing just loving it he's thrilled this is the best thing he's done ever i do think for people

00:44:30.400 watching though who object and i i include myself in this if you don't want this to happen to this

00:44:36.920 country then you probably do have to start going to church i mean i mean i'm a i'm a full-on atheist

00:44:41.700 but i do feel like you might in order to be culturally protecting what it means to be english and what this

00:44:49.700 what the values are of the what we might consider the values of this country and you don't like the

00:44:54.760 creep of islam then you are going to have to go and put your backside on a pew on a sunday

00:45:00.060 have you done that i did go before christmas so did i actually i went christmas eve and uh

00:45:05.300 i kind of hated it because it was a kind of modern church um where it's like they in right i was i was

00:45:12.200 thinking right okay i wouldn't mind going uh to church if it was some guy who's you know slam the bible

00:45:18.660 down and go right you're all sinners for this reason and we're gonna have like you know proper

00:45:22.000 all sort of gothic hymns or something you know so it's like it feels intense but no it was a peter

00:45:27.560 hitchens church yeah no i do i do i want i want something that feels you know like you know gregory

00:45:32.880 the great would have be proved you know i mean like something quite intense um but no instead what

00:45:37.420 we got is like a pop song that had like jesus lyrics over the top of it and i i was just sat there

00:45:42.840 going right i hate this you know it kind of made me want to take over the church and start just

00:45:46.980 reading you've got school-aged kids though so do you go to the do they do a nativity still yeah

00:45:52.180 they do still do them yeah that that made me feel christmasy two christmas ago i went to the church

00:45:58.160 and there was like a little mary and a little lamb got lost and there was a joseph and and we sang

00:46:03.180 terrible hymns actually and then this year it was more like a powerpoint presentation of the many

00:46:07.700 many names of jesus and what was really funny as well he's like he's like if you if you haven't

00:46:14.340 brought cash with you to donate like when they pass it there's a qr code that you can just very

00:46:19.420 but yes i think go go to church go and shape go and go and like protect what you want to protect

00:46:26.100 and be part of that that's true i agree and so okay so okay i mean islam might be the state religion

00:46:32.940 but it's not like muslims are going to get special privileges under the law

00:46:36.420 no turns out they are actually so here here are the uh the pre-sentence report guidelines so these

00:46:45.680 this is advice that uh is given by um what's the name of the thing uh there's a particular name of

00:46:53.920 the institution that's uh cps uh not the cps it is it is i can't remember the name of it uh but

00:47:02.720 there's there's an institution that was set up by the conservatives in 2010 i've got it written

00:47:06.600 down here somewhere woke idiot kind of guidance uh yeah it is basically that um but uh but this was

00:47:14.020 set up in 2010 by the conservative party uh the sentencing council is what it is sorry there we go

00:47:19.660 so the sentencing council uh was set up in 2010 by the tories and the dems uh to give advice to uh the

00:47:27.520 judiciary about how their sentencing should be carried out and what would be fair right

00:47:32.520 and so they they give these guidelines out now the guidelines aren't themselves law but they are

00:47:38.280 heavily taken into consideration this is essentially the government's instruction on how

00:47:42.720 they want things to be and as you can see when we get down to pre-sentence reports so they do these

00:47:49.420 pre-sentence reports uh before forming an opinion of the sentence uh and these are legally required in

00:47:56.120 certain uh situations so they say uh or sorry normally considered so they say the pre-sentence

00:48:03.360 report would normally be considered necessary if the offender belongs to one or more of the following

00:48:06.580 cohorts so we're very clearly looking at a two-tier system here right uh so if they're at risk of first

00:48:13.820 custodial sentence or risk of one for two years or less if they're a young adult so 18 to 25 years

00:48:19.920 right if they're female right or if they're from an ethnic minority cultural minority and or faith

00:48:27.780 minority community so what we have here is if you combine these two the young adult and ethnic minority

00:48:36.240 what you have here is special privileges for young muslim men that are not given to young english men

00:48:43.720 because they are not part of an ethnic minority or a faith minority unless those english men are black

00:48:48.860 who are these english men yeah but uh also female i'm sorry to interrupt let me get more lenient

00:48:56.400 sentences but why it's that's a great question um i would say it's a general sort of patriarchal holdover

00:49:03.420 from previous eras uh where women women have always been given light so but i get it if a woman is

00:49:10.520 coerced because there can be a you know if you could prove that in a mitigating thing that actually

00:49:15.360 a woman was completely coerced lived in a like a terrible abusive relationship but then also you'd

00:49:21.760 be able to do that if it was the other way around of course yeah but but just yeah i don't really i

00:49:27.060 don't really like that no i don't actually even as a woman i don't like pregnant postnatal 100%

00:49:32.660 because that is for the sake of a baby and you are in a different but no okay sorry you carry on no no

00:49:39.800 that's fine um because i i do agree with you um that essentially what we have here is a stratified

00:49:45.520 form of justice and of course straight white men who are 25 or older so uh we we could call them

00:49:51.200 taxpayers uh because they are the majority by far of taxpayers and the only net net tax paying

00:49:58.420 demographic in the country are now at the bottom of the hierarchy when it comes to consideration under

00:50:04.240 the law so you will get a longer sentence if you are a tax paying english man than any other

00:50:10.720 demographic that's nice yeah it's just what do you pay your taxes for so you can go to prison

00:50:17.260 yeah yeah well to promote islam uh actually we don't want productive people in this country do we

00:50:22.920 well no absolutely and so uh luckily the uh the the the labor um what was the sorry the exact

00:50:31.840 title i want to get right just so i've got it right um no there we go lord chancellor and secretary

00:50:36.200 for state uh secretary of state for justice shabana mahoud uh mahmoud sorry has reassured us that don't

00:50:43.820 worry we don't listen to the sentencing council oh so they're getting paid for no reason yeah so

00:50:50.560 why are they there they're getting paid to twiddle their thumbs and come up with rules that no one

00:50:54.240 will listen to anyway but we won't disband them exactly that she says the sentencing council is

00:50:58.260 entirely independent okay how do they make their money they make how do they from the government

00:51:02.960 obviously like they don't have like private what's the point of any of these things there's loads of

00:51:08.380 these that there's yeah that i'll digress very quickly but there's there's a um the national

00:51:13.880 police chiefs um they sort of have a body but they don't really govern they don't really do i don't

00:51:19.660 understand what the point of any of them are it's either law or it's not like i don't care what you

00:51:25.900 recommend and what you like to eat for breakfast on a sunday that's a long conversation we don't

00:51:29.780 have time for no i'm afraid and no no it's fine don't i i did invite you on to talk we don't have

00:51:34.760 time to go through that but uh but she says well today's updated guidelines do not represent my

00:51:39.800 views or the views of the government i'll be writing to the sentencing council to register my

00:51:43.240 displeasure and to recommend reversing this change to guidance as someone who is from an ethnic

00:51:47.300 minority background myself i do not stand for any kind of differential treatment before the law

00:51:50.440 well i guess i'll take her word for it so she's going to register her displeasure and

00:51:54.740 recommend she's going to recommend guidance to the people that offer the guidance so that the

00:51:59.040 people that follow the guidance might not follow the guidance and be recommended by her if she

00:52:02.640 doesn't recommend it that's exactly exactly what's happening okay good and uh you know we're going to

00:52:08.400 just pretend that the judges have been completely neutral and haven't been showing favoritism to

00:52:13.000 ethnic minorities for decades now uh and then rape a kid a couple of weeks talked about someone

00:52:19.680 raping a kid a couple of years it's genuinely what's happened in this country the only the

00:52:24.960 only person i've seen of any substance calling this out has been robert jenrich who uh said look

00:52:28.740 this will enshrine anti-white and anti-christian bias in a criminal justice system it's like yeah

00:52:32.880 well it's already there anyway so yeah make it formal um but anyway that's uh that's that um

00:52:40.120 we've got quite yeah in particular we've got 50 dollars from freddie65 thank you very much for

00:52:47.940 the very generous donation saying thank you to the lotus eaters and kelly j she's fab just woke up

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00:52:57.840 you know yeah that's that's really kind of you for 50 dollars though man ramshack a lot says look

00:53:01.640 into the holy metropolis of mercia in british isles a group of orthodox monks trying to revive

00:53:06.320 pre-catholic english christianity mercy and monks on youtube okay that actually sounds cool uh invoking

00:53:11.880 mercy is the way to get my attention weakest of the saxon kingdoms not well listen it's not true

00:53:19.880 that's not true that's not true that's not true they were just the uh the the last capitulate to

00:53:24.880 the vikings says a man of wessex anyway let's move on all right then so to round off this trio of

00:53:31.960 horrors this very jolly podcast that we've been talking about uh we're going to talk about the

00:53:36.700 complete institutional failures of the police and the social services to protect young girls from

00:53:42.360 working and lower class backgrounds in the uk because outside of even the ethno-religious aspect

00:53:48.800 of the grooming gangs i think there are other cases that you can point to as well to just show

00:53:53.520 that for a long time the institutions of this country just abandoned these people abandoned these

00:53:58.580 poor young girls and left them to the wolves they could consider converting to islam couldn't they

00:54:03.520 they could have then keir starmer would be like all over it well yeah then then perhaps they might

00:54:08.100 get some justice but the justice is uh being looked into by the rochdale grooming gang trial which is

00:54:14.160 currently ongoing and i'll look into some of the details uh regarding that but i really do think it

00:54:19.100 is uh not just a failure because of the obvious racism that these police were afraid of being accused of

00:54:25.420 but because they just didn't seem to care all that much about these girls and because of that apathy

00:54:31.860 allowed room for these predators who wanted to victimize women uh because of the fact that they

00:54:39.200 were from a different ethnic group to them i'm gonna saw an advantage that they took yeah it allowed

00:54:45.240 for that they saw people who fell outside of the grace of the law right yes they don't care the

00:54:49.460 institutions don't care and when you say women are these even women well these are girls these are girls

00:54:53.740 very very young girls so i don't want to mischaracterize that um if you want to read something that's a

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00:55:05.480 we've got islander 3 out right now you can get that on the website for the low low price of 14.99

00:55:10.960 was it half of all of the copies we've printed have already been sold is that correct and people

00:55:15.460 have already been receiving them so we don't seem to have any of the distribution promises

00:55:19.940 i'll give you a copy very nice it's very beautiful it is isn't it yeah it's really nice

00:55:25.500 and uh that's limited time only limited copies available so get one whilst you still can so to

00:55:31.780 just highlight the fact that this is not purely an issue although it's very largely an issue of

00:55:38.140 ethno-religious persecution from outside groups here's an example that i found just going through

00:55:42.740 the manchester evening news because rochdale's in manchester uh talking about a case that's going

00:55:47.620 through the courts right now of a man called christopher oates on trial at manchester crown

00:55:52.180 court charged with seven counts including sexual activity with a child and inciting child prostitution

00:55:57.680 this is a pretty horrifying headline a pimp to two teenagers who held a gun to a girl's head and said

00:56:03.120 you do as i say you're mine now one of the things that we find out of slavery basically yes one of

00:56:09.160 the things we find about a lot of these old cases well these cases going through court right now is

00:56:13.740 that they're quite old so with the rochdale grooming gangs trials that's going right now

00:56:17.820 it was between i think 2001 and 2006 that the events were actually taking place this one was between

00:56:23.160 2004 and 2005 so again it's just another example of the greater manchester police's complete failure

00:56:30.020 to tackle the problems as they were emerging we've had plenty of other grooming gangs taken down

00:56:36.720 obviously this is one of the ones that they'll point to and say see it's not just pakistani muslims

00:56:42.100 raping these girls because look we found one englishman he looks like a good nice man though

00:56:48.400 doesn't he yeah he doesn't look like a wrong one no he's just obvious english scum which nobody has

00:56:53.940 ever claimed has not been involved in these kinds of crimes in the past obviously there's always whatever

00:56:59.400 punishment we give them give him yes you know obviously but that doesn't stop the fact that a large

00:57:04.360 majority of these cases always seem to come back to the same type of perpetrator six decades

00:57:10.740 can i just say for a very very long time and of course there was a key a gang report

00:57:16.660 back in january of 2024 that was published that found some key findings just i'll just read through

00:57:22.780 their the headlines here so the girls were left at the mercy of the gangs the dozens of offenders

00:57:28.180 probably more than that actually it's going to be still at large because oftentimes when you look

00:57:32.320 into the actual uh way that these communities work most of the time it's pretty much the entire

00:57:37.100 community like keeping each other's backs uh emerging threat of exploitation was not addressed

00:57:43.880 particularly between 2004 and 2007 child sex exploitation was a low priority and under resourced

00:57:50.600 by the greater manchester police how is that a low priority it's a low priority you've got young

00:57:55.660 girls being raped mostly by foreigners we don't care we don't care we've got other things to tackle

00:58:01.020 it's just hard to think what is more important i mean maybe over terrorism is more important

00:58:06.140 terrorism violent crime it is terrorism though but it is yeah it is terrorism uh terrorism and the

00:58:12.120 statutory agencies so this will include the child services as well failed to respond and are often

00:58:17.900 riddled with perpetrators that's that's the big thing isn't it yes the councils and the police

00:58:23.540 that's one of the people go to jail for this i've owned this book for a while actually but recently

00:58:28.440 after the um after the discussion that was brought up when elon musk started to talk about it a lot of

00:58:34.020 people recommended that we read this book by peter mclaughlin easy meat and this is a study from

00:58:39.500 2016 that looked into a lot of the reports that have been filed up to that point because obviously it was

00:58:44.440 only really in the past 10 to 15 years the mainstream media started to really take care take a look at this

00:58:50.440 just a quick thing as well it's difficult to get a hold of copy of this book it is i had to get it

00:58:54.040 through ebay it's not available for sale through amazon anymore i think it might have been at one

00:58:59.260 point uh but it's interesting how all the time every single one of these cases seems to have the

00:59:04.940 same pattern of behavior to which has been reported from here so this goes back to some of the earliest

00:59:10.900 cases um that he was able to find i imagine they go back much further was in 1988 when it was actually

00:59:17.840 seek communities actually seek communities being victimized by muslim grooming gangs and the police

00:59:23.840 instead of actually doing anything about it chose to target the vigilante groups the seek vigilante

00:59:30.400 groups they're the real problem because they were defending their own communities and trying to defend

00:59:34.640 their own daughters i of course imagine that a lot of this goes back as you say probably six decades

00:59:39.400 or more and then it's when you get to 1991 that you start to see these cases pop up where

00:59:46.040 in bradford for instance they were taking girls from children's homes prostituting them then

00:59:51.220 returning them to the children's homes during the day and again they all follow the same kind of

00:59:56.800 mo which is here you get a boyfriend aged 18 to 25 who showers her with gifts collects her in his car

01:00:05.740 outside of a school on an almost daily basis he proceeds to make her dependent on him perhaps

01:00:10.480 changing her name but proceeding to destroy her connections with other people he ends up furthering

01:00:15.300 as control of her often by humiliation threats and fear oftentimes applying with drugs and alcohol

01:00:19.860 as well all the while pretending it's a loving relationship the final stage is he has total

01:00:24.320 control when she becomes a willing victim she'll have sex for him without seeing any of the money

01:00:29.800 herself so they basically groom these people into being willing rape victims who the authorities then

01:00:37.860 classify as prostitutes and say well they're just prostitute slags who have asked for it they're letting it happen

01:00:43.640 to themselves which is exactly what is the argument that's going to be put forward and has been put

01:00:47.960 forward already in this trial so the most recent trial as mentioned has had a few twists and turns

01:00:55.120 already the initial jury had to be discharged back in january and they were able to get a new jury they

01:01:01.380 didn't mention why it was that they were discharged for legal reasons apparently but who knows what that

01:01:06.640 could mean if they're getting it from the local community who knows if there were people in the local

01:01:11.180 community who might have even been involved in the whole thing the most recent reports are that one

01:01:16.220 of the girls so the girls who are being who are putting the charges forward are classified as girl a and

01:01:20.900 girl b for obvious reasons we we do not have their name the perpetrators who are being charged are

01:01:26.500 muhammad zahid 64 naheem akram 48 muhammad shahzad 44 nisa hussein 41 rahiz khan 39 arfan khan 41 and uh

01:01:40.880 mushtaq ahmed 67 and kashir bashir uh of uh 50 and remember these cases go back about 20 years so some of those like

01:01:50.080 39 years old now yeah well some of them were in their 40s some of them would have been teenagers

01:01:55.600 at the time when these were going on and uh she's been uh girl a is the one that this report talks

01:02:01.380 about mainly which was that she was used as a sex slave when she was a child and said that she could

01:02:06.300 have been abused by more than 200 men now the number has changed a few times when she's been asked about

01:02:13.100 this and that and the defense is trying to harp on that and say well what is it is it this number is

01:02:18.200 over 100 keep a list like how do i know you know when you're blacked out drunk on drugs and loads

01:02:25.060 of different men are coming in that's what they did didn't they just haven't given receipts like

01:02:29.900 oh god that's insufferable yeah so one of the complainants said that she was targeted in the

01:02:34.520 town by a group of asian men from the age of 13 with her phone number passed around between them

01:02:38.780 there was that many it was hard to keep count the other complainant girl b was also 13 at the time of

01:02:44.120 the abuse the alleged abuse prosecutors told the jury that the girls apply with drugs alcohol and

01:02:49.000 cigarettes before they were expected to have sex with the defendants and others whenever they

01:02:53.360 wanted so again the same kind of story again and again i think with these ones it's that the oldest

01:02:58.320 man involved in this mohammed zahid ran a stall at the manchester markets and would give them

01:03:04.920 lingerie to try to tempt them over and pretend these are girls often and troubled feeling unloved

01:03:12.820 unworth no value oftentimes from very very bad backgrounds i think some of these already sexually

01:03:18.360 abused already and a lot of them are already going through the care home system yeah so they're

01:03:22.340 already on a scrap heap where nobody really gives a damn about them yeah so giving evidence on wednesday

01:03:28.260 girl a said that she'd been approached by police in 2009 when they were investigating child sexual

01:03:33.320 exploitation but declined to exist she was also approached in 2015 again but she declined but she

01:03:39.880 changed her mind later on that year so again as as laid out in books like these and this is 2016 this

01:03:45.540 book came out we've and even reports um from a bernardo's report that was done in 2011 which of

01:03:52.580 course didn't mention any of the ethnic or religious aspects of it to make sure that you didn't actually

01:03:57.100 know who was perpetrating this but everybody knows that what was done was that these girls were made

01:04:01.900 to feel like it was normal that this is just what girls do even if it's seen as somewhat inappropriate

01:04:07.820 but then you've got the police outside of these few occasions where years later they're being approached

01:04:12.660 at the time treating it like it's normal oh you're just a prostitute the social services treating it like

01:04:18.880 it's normal so they don't think it's unusual they don't have any frame of reference that all that

01:04:25.140 they've known in their entire life has been abuse in in 1993 i was training to be i know i never taught

01:04:31.720 but as part of my theology degree i also did a teaching degree and i went to houses in something

01:04:37.560 called eccles hill which is a really poor area i think it's on the outskirts of leeds bradford kind

01:04:42.640 of area and um we went into someone so i went around with an ewo an educational welfare officer whose

01:04:48.920 job it is to find out why kids aren't in school we went into a house and this girl was prepubescent but

01:04:53.900 she must have been at a high school which is like age 13 minimum i always thought she was about 11

01:04:58.400 and when we came out she hadn't been to school for about six six seven weeks and when we came out he

01:05:04.720 said well you know she she's uh she's on game and i was like 19 and naive that mean and i was like

01:05:12.640 oh okay and then i i said oh what's on game and he said well you know she's a prostitute 13

01:05:19.760 this was an educational welfare officer who'd gone to check on why she hadn't gone to school

01:05:25.140 and his attitude was so much and i sort of blanked it out for years and then it came back to me about

01:05:30.420 10 years ago but his attitude was like oh she's a prostitute a mum's a prostitute a sister's a

01:05:37.720 prostitute she's a prostitute so it's fine just leave it what's the point in trying not she's a

01:05:42.980 victim of abuse not she's being exploited not she's being raped no no none of that sorry none

01:05:48.700 of those things it was just that she was a prostitute full stop end of story nothing we can

01:05:54.000 do that's how we felt and that's the same attitude that we see here so this was one of the children

01:05:59.880 girl b saying that the rochdale social services file that she'd picked up for loiter she'd been

01:06:06.040 picked up for loitering and prostitution so she they just put her down 13 years old as a prostitute

01:06:12.500 didn't go any further into it she rejected suggestions by lawyers for the accused that

01:06:17.300 she was claiming that she was abused to get compensation because of course they're going

01:06:20.640 to go down that route girl b said that when the abuse began she was living in a children's home

01:06:25.300 there you go started to hang around the rochdale market where muhammad zahid then in his 40s

01:06:30.100 owned a stall each week she was taken to a shop in rochdale owned by another man

01:06:34.480 musta kamad uh she said she was repeatedly raped there by them and other people they would take

01:06:41.080 turns on her she said that on other occasions ahmed would drive her and zahid to a house in

01:06:45.700 chatterton near rochdale there would be three of them and other men there who spoke a language she

01:06:50.380 did not understand she said that she told the police and the social services what was going on

01:06:55.800 they said i was a prostitute and i was prostituting myself i don't remember them being concerned enough

01:07:01.980 to do anything about it i remember that they're knowing that they knew what was going on it always

01:07:06.580 happened so it was nothing new to me i assumed they knew all the police had picked me up it all

01:07:11.100 just seemed to me everybody knew what was going on so when these people come out years later and say

01:07:16.320 well why didn't you do anything at the time why didn't you go to the police why are the charges only

01:07:20.100 coming out now she spoke to the police she spoke to the social services she was going through

01:07:25.260 she was going through the children's homes the people in the children's homes there was a woman

01:07:29.380 i did a let women speak in oldham so we've decided we're going to go to some of these towns so that

01:07:34.860 the victims so that the words are spoken on the streets like the words you're not allowed to say

01:07:38.820 like pakistani muslim um pedophile rape gangs i think is how we should tell them which is what i

01:07:45.360 said very loudly repeatedly in oldham and um anyway one of the women talked and she'd worked in a

01:07:50.660 children's home she was a newly qualified social worker she'd worked in a children's home and she

01:07:55.280 said these girls would come back like zombies and everyone knew what was going on and the liberal

01:08:01.800 so difficult not to swear the liberal kind of people that were working there were saying things like

01:08:07.640 we can't stop them going out like these were in charge of 13 14 year old girls well because it's

01:08:13.740 their right screw their rights exactly well that's what i think that they're children children they need

01:08:20.140 boundaries they need protection from their own actions especially protection from other people's

01:08:25.440 actions and other people's actions i mean 13 14 even if uh you're taking being taken advantage of you

01:08:32.420 can very easily uh rationalize it in your own mind especially when you're that young and naive

01:08:37.660 well you're getting love you might get a necklace you might get some vodka you might get some technique

01:08:42.120 that they do yeah i mean there's there's men that are very famous for doing that um who are very

01:08:48.500 much celebrated by potentially some of your audience but it's uh it's it's really frightening that

01:08:54.600 everybody will be party to it will know it will enable these men they saw the men pick up the girls

01:09:01.720 from the children's home and i just i i just can't get past not then spending my life trying to stop it

01:09:10.460 like if you know that that's happening why why would anyone not try and do everything they possibly

01:09:16.740 could to try and stop it and one of the really tragic things about all of it is it's very rare

01:09:23.480 that you're a very reliable witness if you've been a victim of such incredible trauma so you'll either

01:09:29.220 sound like a liar or maybe you're too well spoken and too okay and then did you really suffer that much

01:09:34.940 if you if you're articulate and you sound educated you know but if you're not articulate and educated

01:09:40.300 then you're obviously just a problem person and you probably brought it on yourself

01:09:43.960 so it's really scary and that's not speak of the sort of institutional bias towards political

01:09:48.560 correctness where they don't want to deal with this because all they can hear in their own heads is oh

01:09:53.640 this is racist yeah this is racist this is and it's like but rather be a rapist than a racist 100 and it's

01:10:00.340 just that's horrific yeah and interestingly enough a person i met a few months ago a wedding of all

01:10:06.780 places i was talking to him and the subject came up and he told me i forget if it was rotherham or

01:10:11.620 rochdale but he told me he went to school with one of the girls who was being abused like this

01:10:16.760 and you know he was like 12 13 himself at the time so he didn't really understand the full

01:10:22.420 implications but he saw this girl every day at the end of school get picked up by the same people

01:10:27.580 who were pakistani muslims who were not her family or friends or anything all the teachers saw it and they

01:10:33.960 must have all known what was going on nobody did anything well in that school that i worked in was

01:10:39.560 called eccles hill or raven's cliff i can't remember but it doesn't exist anymore anyway

01:10:42.880 so you had um the third generation pakistani boys and the um mixed race boys they were dealing so

01:10:51.760 these were like the social issues they were dealing the white girls were worried about being prostitutes

01:10:56.180 and the pakistani girls you were worried that wouldn't come after come back to school after the

01:11:00.760 summer because they'd been sent to pakistan to be married off i mean these are everybody knew this

01:11:05.920 this is you know it's it's like you say it's a it's a lie to say that nobody knew everybody knew

01:11:12.520 what was going on nobody really cared and i think when it comes to the police and the social workers

01:11:17.260 i think often they had already they had either been corrupted from within by people who were also

01:11:23.760 raping those girls no matter what ethnicity they were i think maybe they were kickbacks like that

01:11:29.720 or there were people from those communities who very much changed the conversation so that those

01:11:36.860 those victims of crime those victims of rape couldn't come forward because then it was like

01:11:41.160 you know community leaders as we've seen this government especially loves a community leader

01:11:45.540 um and so i think that's been going on for a really long time and that also goes back to the

01:11:51.000 english thing that we can't defend our daughters because who are they well this this is what the edl was

01:11:57.520 edl was the attempt to defend the daughters from the rape gangs and what did the state the state

01:12:03.180 crushed it absolutely crushed it and and again it does seem from the fact that some of the stuff that

01:12:08.300 peter mclaughlin found in this that they initially started off in what he found as the earliest ones

01:12:14.080 uh were the seek daughters as well it does just seem to be that these people identify out group

01:12:20.600 and go we'll go after them and it was upon realizing that holy oh my god we'll be able to

01:12:27.320 just get away with this because the police are going to go after them for defending themselves we can

01:12:31.400 get away with this as much as we want and i mean what's that 1988 didn't the seek send their daughters

01:12:37.160 away though sorry i think the seeks often often work together in their communities and they sent their

01:12:42.280 daughters away yes from the home uh they did but also when it was first emerging it did end up in

01:12:47.760 street violence as well because of course you find out that this is happening before you've been able

01:12:51.600 to take those measures to send your daughters away people are going to go want to get paid back for

01:12:56.640 this when they know the police aren't going to do i would wouldn't you i would i would even if the

01:12:59.880 police did want to do something someone touched my daughter it's completely natural absolutely uh but

01:13:05.800 what you were saying as well you know they're being accused of making up these claims so girl a

01:13:10.980 in this complaint in in these criminal charges she's already been awarded previously 27 and a half

01:13:17.400 thousand pounds for uh in 2018 because two other men who weren't involved in this trial admitted to

01:13:25.900 sexually abusing her so we already know guaranteed that two men have done that we know that these people

01:13:33.000 do not just work in pairs they work in much larger groups often shielded by the communities but the

01:13:37.940 defense have decided to pick up on that and say well these men weren't involved in it you just

01:13:43.240 picked out their names because girl b was already doing all the already had the names and you're

01:13:47.560 trying to jump on this so that you can get an extra 22 grand in compensation to which she has said i mean

01:13:52.900 do you think 22 grand is going to make up for all of the suffering that i went through this i'm doing

01:13:57.680 this because it's the truth yeah because in her situation you want justice you want these people to go

01:14:03.800 away you get two people it's nowhere near it if it's potentially up to possibly exceeding 200 people

01:14:10.620 who have abused her it's a drop in it's a drop in the ocean to get two men so if you can try and get

01:14:16.940 the rest of them as well but i just think you know it's understandable the defense lawyers are having

01:14:21.480 to do what they do because that's their job uh but but still it's awful that these girls have to

01:14:26.500 continually go through this when again as we mentioned they were so vulnerable that they thought it was

01:14:31.860 normal to have sex with 30 men by the age of 13. it is vile and uh you know i also found because

01:14:40.400 there's always stuff like this going on especially in the areas of greater manchester like rochester

01:14:45.880 like while i was looking into this i stumbled upon this so this is from the 25th of april 2024

01:14:50.420 so last year right now they were doing a child sexploit uh um a child exploitation probe

01:14:56.400 where they were going around uh cracking down on places which are likely to have done this

01:15:02.500 and uh this was one six males suspects charged with being concerned in the uh supply of drugs

01:15:08.980 modern slavery charges child exploitation names are exactly what you would expect azad ali harris ali

01:15:17.660 adam ali sajad and i looked into this and they were supposed to as part of this article it said that

01:15:24.300 they were being um taken to court to speak i looked into this couldn't find any follow-up on it

01:15:31.180 at all so who knows what's going to be a year harry you can't expect them beyond this who knows what is

01:15:36.580 going on child sex slavers operating in rochdale if anybody in the audience i might actually you know

01:15:42.540 see about getting in touch with the courts to see if there was any follow-up on this or speak to

01:15:47.400 the police to see if there's any follow-up on this if anybody in the audience knows if there was

01:15:50.920 any follow-up on this please let me know because i mean this is just again six more to add to the list

01:15:56.640 potentially and then there was also just this report as well of uh asylum seeker followed a

01:16:02.760 school girl and raped her behind a pub in falkirk town center this was charlie peters reporting earlier

01:16:07.280 the girls collecting a prescription when she was approached by sedek nikzad 29 years old who assaulted

01:16:13.940 her so this is just what we come to expect now this is the boon of multiculturalism that we have been

01:16:19.460 gifted by our leaders and it's awful it's awful and the fact that a lot of what we've been talking

01:16:24.900 about was allowed to go on for so long it was basically sanctioned by the authorities is dreadful

01:16:30.740 enough as it is but the fact that we've not learned those lessons and our leaders are still allowing the

01:16:35.040 kind of policies that allow for this to go on is the greatest betrayal this country's ever ever known

01:16:40.080 yeah but don't talk about it for god's sake yeah because you know especially on facebook i mean to be

01:16:44.860 we probably won't be able to put this segment on youtube really oh yeah i don't think so thanks

01:16:49.400 we've been cavalier with our language um not just you but uh all of us well especially you by talking

01:16:57.560 about these things in a straightforward manner in an accurate way yeah you know you are you are right

01:17:03.860 that these are pakistani muslim paedophile rape gangs and that's naughty say well i got cancelled by the

01:17:11.600 feminists like my first round of cancelling was by a group of left-wing women who said that i had

01:17:17.280 questionable views on race because i talked about grooming gangs and i was i was so right and so many

01:17:23.620 of them that attacked me then had to to concede later one of them is a massive uh grifter but she um

01:17:30.000 she was like oh uh it's it's all rapes and i was like no no it's definitely in grooming gangs they are

01:17:35.680 overrepresented uh pakistani men uh muslim men are overrepresented it's a particular pattern of

01:17:41.340 behavior yeah well i i think it's also like with the with the close connections and the cousin marriages

01:17:47.680 and the fact that one person will have many connections to you sometimes it's all of those

01:17:52.580 men in that one room with that that victim and i i wonder if that doesn't lend itself somehow

01:17:58.460 to the culture and to maintaining such a because most people wouldn't keep it secret right if you

01:18:05.240 were doing that sort of thing that would leak out but and maybe it leaks out to their community and

01:18:09.860 nobody cares i've said this for like like i there's no one on my phone that i could ring to say right i've

01:18:16.200 got this girl there's no one on my phone i could ring say do you want to come over and turn on a 12

01:18:20.280 year old girl like they probably wouldn't go exactly they'd be like are you i'm calling the

01:18:24.440 cops yeah i'd call the police yeah how yeah exactly well obviously you know and yet this is such a

01:18:29.100 perennial and normalized thing where it's like it's a way of keeping each other loyal yeah she's also

01:18:34.000 not a girl is she for them she's she's not she's she's a vessel at which they can accept they can

01:18:40.700 exert their hatred of of us yeah yeah that is genuinely what it comes down to um but anyway we'll skip

01:18:47.800 the video comments today samson just because we've only got 10 minutes left and then it's

01:18:51.380 it's harry's fault oh it's my fault is it oh all right it's fine it's not your fault i'm joking

01:18:57.200 we do have some more rumble rants that we've not gone uh go on you go through those yeah yeah

01:19:01.400 hapsification again says come join an eastern orthodox church the original church apparently

01:19:06.120 sigil stone says consanguinous is somewhat misleading because it's an umbrella term they're not marrying

01:19:10.620 cousins and it's not mother or son saying any further would get you prosecuted for hate speech

01:19:14.260 in europe um and sigil stone again says i don't know how london ever managed to elect

01:19:19.760 someone named sad dick khan well london's 37 english so that should tell you everything you need to know

01:19:25.880 michael says kelly j is always a magnificent guest she has a breath of fresh air in stark contrast to

01:19:30.900 what we see in the women in the mainstream media well thanks luke says i got islander three less than 24

01:19:37.080 hours after ordering uh massive improvement so we we had a problem with the island too the the

01:19:42.840 distributor we used for one was fine no problems and for some reason with two i'm guessing they

01:19:47.340 like lost the palette of the things or something but they didn't say they just didn't deliver like

01:19:52.260 i hope they don't notice yeah like they just didn't deliver them and so we got loads of people saying

01:19:55.780 where's my thing i'm like i don't know it's all been sent and so we changed delivery company and this

01:20:00.180 one's been really really good apparently because there are loads of people who are like oh how's i

01:20:04.320 hear my copy of islander three arrives you know wish i'd got one and two and stuff like this so

01:20:07.980 that's glad to hear that um what's that next what somebody's named themselves harry robinson drowning

01:20:16.560 orphans yeah i don't know that's a very that's a new one i know we get lots of jokey names but

01:20:21.540 that's a new one so uh well he says my islander arrived yesterday and said to my friends we both

01:20:27.120 love the magazine especially the article on eowyn you you've read lord of the rings right yeah yeah

01:20:32.600 well hey in there there's an article called marshals of middle earth uh the first two are

01:20:37.560 on boromir and faromir and uh luca's done one on eowyn now so that's i haven't actually had time to

01:20:42.800 read it yet but uh but there's lots of good stuff in there um really is very beautiful thank you oh

01:20:48.920 yeah rory does an absolutely tremendous job with the graphic design of the whole thing yeah it's really

01:20:53.760 really good um but uh he says i can't help but think that if we applied the logic of i drink tea

01:20:58.260 therefore i'm english to any other ethnic group that would be considered racist imagine saying

01:21:02.320 i eat curry therefore i'm indian i had a chinese on friday that's because i ate curry the other

01:21:07.020 day actually so we can't get a decent chinese where i live really love nor money no well i didn't say

01:21:12.300 it was a decent chinese okay it was crap but you know let's hope they don't watch this uh charlie

01:21:19.360 says uh funny how the same people who claim that anyone can be english five minutes ago were saying

01:21:23.100 the english are hateful racists and the flag's a symbol of far right yeah i know aren't we like an evil

01:21:27.300 oppressive white supremacist imperial people why do you want to be part of us they're just as english

01:21:31.980 as i am they owe operations to yeah exactly yeah yeah but do they do they know i don't think they'd

01:21:37.380 like that part of being um someone online says if he was anglo-saxon he would be english quote

01:21:43.940 uh yes article if he was english then he would be english that's correct that was that was the funny

01:21:48.940 thing when i was reading through it i was like okay this is rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish oh they

01:21:52.860 concede my point yeah they they always get to that part it's the same with politics joe where they

01:21:57.580 are like they get past the bit oh it's so racist and terrible but i suppose if you're anglo-saxon

01:22:02.760 then you can make a claim of being english that's a little bit better than just saying oh i drink tea

01:22:06.820 and then by the end of it they're starting to go where's the english parliament yeah yeah yeah no

01:22:11.240 we yeah i thought they were british i thought i was always quite cool for saying i was english because

01:22:15.920 i like being english but i thought everyone was british and that was the nice thing then we were

01:22:20.460 you know you could have a british passport but not an english one well i mean that's we're stateless

01:22:25.940 people we don't have a state and as you can see the british state loves islam and foreigners so

01:22:30.520 we we're in a bit of trouble to be honest um anyway sophie says i do think it helps the english

01:22:36.800 the english are actually a super distinct culture sophie's danish uh she says i know carl is not a

01:22:42.260 big fan of anime but there's actually a lot of japanese animes and games that are super obsessed

01:22:46.380 with england go out of their way to portray a fairy tale like england with top hats tea and

01:22:50.740 gentlemen codes of honor and behavior and while it's a japanese interpretation of england it's so

01:22:54.840 distinctly english you see it and say man this butler keeping a beautiful mansion and laying the

01:22:59.740 cutlery out correctly and serving tea and finger food is so incredibly english well the thing is like

01:23:04.320 often the people outside of your culture can do a much better job of uh enunciating what your culture

01:23:11.060 is than you because it's strange and foreign so they notice all of the things about you you don't

01:23:15.780 notice about yourself um we need to return to being the england that japan wishes we still

01:23:20.860 yeah no absolutely and have you seen that you've seen that thing with the uh japanese ambassador to

01:23:25.340 wales recently right amazing he loves it he loves wales he loves the culture he's so kind and he seems

01:23:31.380 to be really deferential to everything just respectful yeah it's really sweet but he is japanese so that is

01:23:37.340 that's the whole culture isn't it yeah but it's it's really sweet though that's why i like the japanese

01:23:42.080 yeah um but uh fuzzy toaster says i was born in singapore i was raised an expat my parents are

01:23:48.380 english and irish this idiocy from the left can be counted with something as simple as the horse and

01:23:52.420 stable argument they get really annoyed at that one which i love the pantomime horses are horses one

01:23:59.600 that's my favorite one like it came out of the trans anti-trans movement where it's like you know

01:24:04.000 trans women women oh yeah pantomime horses are horses that's so good uh and it's exactly the point

01:24:09.300 seahorses are horses as well yeah yeah it's another yeah yeah so it's it's just one of those

01:24:14.360 things where it's like look we can all tell that the essential characteristics of the thing are not

01:24:18.440 what you're claiming so essentially what you're saying is um i'd like you to buy into my pleasant

01:24:23.800 fiction and it's like okay maybe one day i might be inclined to do so but right now while sadiq khan

01:24:29.520 is saying i'm an english i'm not inclined to buy into the pleasant fiction you know those days are gone

01:24:34.820 i'm afraid you could say a nice english rose these days was like a man who pretends to be

01:24:39.260 a woman a black man who pretends to be a woman is is a it's a quintessential english rose

01:24:43.980 it only makes sense right yeah uh just uh for the person's check carly a chinese yesterday chinese

01:24:50.860 food right i didn't say food uh did he stutter chavvy says yes bankers and marriages please i agree

01:24:59.540 posing the idea that the host country has to change laws to accommodate the guests is absurd if you're a

01:25:04.300 guest in the country you follow the laws of that country regardless of what your religion says

01:25:07.060 and again the same with like you know religiously motivated animal slaughters yeah i mean

01:25:11.060 we we are allowed to do this it's not wrong for us to do this in fact it's wrong for us not to do

01:25:16.580 this because otherwise we would do it the way they do it and we've decided the way they do it is barbaric

01:25:20.500 i mean you've watched the halal slaughters right it's awful but yeah stun the animal first and

01:25:24.740 you know anyway it really bothers me uh that we we just concede everything all the time

01:25:31.700 thing scotty says just today while waiting for the podcast start a local reverend came to buy donuts

01:25:37.700 he had a rainbow lanyard tattoos and a pin reading gay

01:25:44.500 what would jesus do i'm sure it'd be all right that's just so it sure outside of anything else

01:25:50.900 that's just embarrassing to walk around with surely i'm just such constant symbols of look at me look at

01:25:57.460 me look at who i am look at what i think shut up i just don't know why so like insistent we all have

01:26:03.780 to know that he had sex with men i have things up my ass okay great it's really gross you know i

01:26:08.420 don't need to know yeah it's good for you please don't tell me well either way you just don't need

01:26:13.380 to know anything do you don't need to say you know i i have sex on a tuesday yeah i just yeah i'm

01:26:18.660 gonna get my little lanyard it's always the most unwelcome conversation at the pub when my mates

01:26:24.740 start saying what they've been up to like no no nobody's it's like your dreams love nobody's

01:26:29.780 interested in your sex life or your dreams uh grant says my pastor said to me yesterday before ash

01:26:34.980 wednesday service that so many denominations are just secular humanism in a christian costume

01:26:39.860 that's the church of england 100 yeah yeah 100 of it i would have to say i'm not sure about just

01:26:46.100 cramming atheists into pews as good i think it's good if you're an atheist and you try to raise your

01:26:50.900 children christian um i agree but i think at least doing something like you know making

01:26:56.660 the churches have an attendance is a good start well just okay it's a community thing it's not

01:27:00.900 you know it is the kingdom of god but it is a community thing and so being belonging to a

01:27:05.860 community will save us all kevin makes a great point where kirsten was like the muslim community

01:27:13.060 is unbelievably charitable they do the most amount of charity kevin points out yeah they do charities

01:27:18.020 that help muslims they don't do like broad ranging charities of normal you know non-muslim

01:27:23.540 people yeah they only help other muslims it's like don't get me wrong good for you maybe we

01:27:28.180 should do something similar but he points out the salvation army said they would only help christians

01:27:31.700 you bet they'd be called uh lots of names if they would there's islamic relief you should look into

01:27:37.300 them another program it's far too long to discuss but they've got loads of posters and billboards all

01:27:41.220 over london at the moment and they are but they've they've got ties with band groups oh do they

01:27:46.740 what a shock uh darth trekkia says when will we see the royal family adopting the burqa now this is

01:27:52.660 interesting because there is a rumor that something like 20 years ago king charles or prince charles when

01:27:58.500 he was then uh went to turkey and converted to islam uh now i don't have any proof of this right but i've

01:28:04.820 seen like lots of people posting like you know old things that suggest that you may have done i like

01:28:11.460 said i don't know whether it's true but like the way he acts i can believe it he used to really love

01:28:16.580 the muslim community i wonder what it is about it no maybe it's um power because he he's such a weak

01:28:22.820 man maybe i think it's i i so there's a there's a bit that's like remember he remembers the empire

01:28:28.660 right now he's used to having foreign people like you know and being like congenial with foreign people

01:28:34.580 it's like okay but the empire's gone so oh well bring them here i guess you know recreate the british

01:28:39.620 empire in england well wasn't that public stoning just perfectly wonderful great um jerone says

01:28:47.860 medieval muslims just wanted free movement across europe but the evil european knights stopped them

01:28:52.900 yes that's exactly how the history books teach the crusades actually i imagine yeah the the idea that

01:28:58.420 you say oh yeah we got the idea of free movement and open borders from spain it's like i'd argue that

01:29:03.300 most children have no idea about the word crusades let alone what they were all right my sons

01:29:09.380 do well yours yeah i teach you i'm sure they will but uh not many yeah uh swamp dweller says the

01:29:18.100 eastern orthodox church is the only christian church i've seen that hasn't fully converted to

01:29:21.700 the woke brigade the liturgical traditions can be traced back to the birth of christianity however

01:29:25.940 most of the churches in the west have been founded by eastern european immigrants as they'll carry the

01:29:29.300 holdovers of local uh origins um yeah i mean like the eastern orthodox church is kind of it's very

01:29:37.140 mystical you've seen the services and no i don't think i have oh check it out like these very the

01:29:42.660 churches themselves are beautiful and the services are very exotic and they feel like eastern mystery

01:29:48.020 religion sort of service you know with lots of incense and smoke and chanting it is it is cool it's

01:29:54.180 very alien though well my friend has just joined the russian orthodox uh and then there's greek

01:30:00.260 orthodox as well aren't they and they both seem a little bit before there's a whole hit i expect you

01:30:05.540 know about it there's a whole thing about the vatican um is is actually the is satan's answer to

01:30:13.940 christianity and that and there's all this sort of symbolism i have no idea i'm just saying i'm just

01:30:20.580 i'm just someone with a theology degree yeah i'm just reporting back david says attractive women

01:30:27.700 often get lighter sentences than unattractive or plain looking women for the same crimes i know i

01:30:31.700 got off scot-free from the murder yeah this is a general uh thing though attractive people get an

01:30:38.100 easier time in society it's just the way the world works yeah um uh simon says how about an easy meat

01:30:44.900 book club that is not a bad idea i am considering it once i've finished it yeah maureen says regarding

01:30:50.500 the girls who can't recall how many men have used them repression is a neat defense mechanism that

01:30:54.580 makes sure you don't mentally break when you recall things from the past happens with a lot of children

01:30:58.740 especially in abusive situations it's just your mind trying to make sure you survive uh there's

01:31:03.540 particularly unfair like i can't even imagine like how could you be a defense lawyer in this sort of case

01:31:10.580 i mean i know they're legally entitled to when someone has to do it but like yeah so i spent my

01:31:14.740 afternoon trying to intimate that this victim of child rape was a lying whore he was just on drugs

01:31:22.740 although they probably square it that i've been spending my afternoon trying to make sure that

01:31:27.380 our justice system yeah they would yeah our justice system make sure that rapist didn't go to jail

01:31:32.980 um it's care's world we're just living in it it is and uh baron von warhawk says the british

01:31:39.940 nation state used to be able to defend the world from napoleon kaiser and hitler now it can't even

01:31:44.980 defend its children from foreign rapists with the iq of a neanderthal i'm actually kind of sick of this

01:31:49.460 neanderthal bashing right there's nothing to suggest neanderthals are stupid they have larger brains than

01:31:54.180 we did actually uh and i think it's unfair to compare them to foreign rapists some suggest that

01:31:59.460 our neanderthal admixture is one of the things that makes us stand out exactly so there's nothing wrong

01:32:04.180 with the neanderthals uh we we probably uh bred them out of existence because a man with a brow

01:32:09.780 like mine can't do much neanderthal bashing but uh right posy uh well kelly thank you for joining us

01:32:17.380 um where can people find more of you let women speak.org or you can find me on uh twitter where

01:32:22.740 i'm uh sorry x uh at the posy parker parker what i don't know the name change oh x it's ridiculous

01:32:30.100 it's ridiculous sorry at the posy parker at the posy parker yes i'm everywhere actually so

01:32:35.380 come and find me uh well thanks for joining us and we will see you tomorrow oh wait

01:32:40.420 calvin's common sense crusade is in half an hour so come and watch that

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - March 06, 2025

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