The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1118

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 1118 on this, the Tuesday the 11th of

00:00:07.200 March 2025. Today I am joined by two superb beards with great minds attached. I've got

00:00:13.160 Beau and Lewis. Thank you, hello. So yes, we've got an interesting one today. We're going to let

00:00:20.160 rip on Fraj, because I think we have to. We're going to talk about the plight of Birmingham

00:00:26.840 Bins. We'll find out more about that one. And a bit of a callback to the COVID era. Indeed.

00:00:34.260 Which I'm looking forward to as well. So that would be good. Let's start with the Nigel

00:00:40.200 Farage stuff, shall we? Right, in this episode, let's start off by not recapping what happened,

00:00:46.280 because basically Kyle did that yesterday, and he did all the links, and anyone who's

00:00:51.820 been following the story sort of is up to speed on it. Instead, I'm just going to give

00:00:56.180 us a very quick reminder of who these two men are involved in the stories. Samson, do

00:01:00.680 you want to play a little bit of this from Rupert Lowe?

00:01:04.000 The mass rape of young working class white girls by mainly Pakistani men on an industrial

00:01:09.900 scale. That is a rotting stain on our country's history. I do not say this lightly, but it makes

00:01:17.200 me a shame to be British. We failed those girls, and heads must roll. I want deportations,

00:01:25.020 not just for the rapists, but also the family members who are aware of their heinous crimes.

00:01:31.700 If that results in tens of thousands of deportations, then that is what must happen.

00:01:37.540 I want prosecutions.

00:01:38.880 So that goes on, but you get the gist of what the man Lowe is about. Let's compare that.

00:01:44.540 Just quickly say.

00:01:45.220 But the nub of it is.

00:01:46.440 Go on then.

00:01:47.180 Just quickly say. Some people say, oh, that's really based, or that's really sort of, or that's

00:01:51.580 right wing, or reactionary and stuff. It's complete common sense.

00:01:55.440 I think that's perfectly reasonably moderate.

00:01:58.380 It's completely normal.

00:01:59.780 Yeah, that's just applying the law. That's all that is.

00:02:03.680 30 years ago, that would be mainstream centre-left. Labour, maybe. You never know.

00:02:11.100 Well, maybe 30 years ago, but yeah.

00:02:13.560 Absolutely nothing wrong with anything you said there.

00:02:15.660 No, absolutely. Let's see if we can detect any problems with what the party leader says.

00:02:21.200 We have a Muslim population in Britain growing by about 75% every 10 years.

00:02:27.300 Right? That's just where we are.

00:02:29.980 Don't stop that.

00:02:31.040 If we politically alienate the whole of Islam, we will lose. We'll lose.

00:02:39.700 So how does one include them?

00:02:40.820 We will lose.

00:02:41.660 Nonsense.

00:02:41.900 By 2050.

00:02:42.940 Nonsense.

00:02:44.080 Goodness knows what kind of a terrible state we're going to be in.

00:02:50.640 Yep. Okay.

00:02:52.400 He's not prepared to do a damn thing about it.

00:02:54.140 I just say to that, I just say no, no.

00:02:57.680 No.

00:02:58.500 That's just pure weakness.

00:03:00.060 Elon was right. That's weakness.

00:03:01.720 That's capitulation.

00:03:03.840 That's moral and political cowardice, that is.

00:03:06.860 And we need a leader of men who stand up and make the difficult arguments.

00:03:10.220 No, I don't want a nightmare future of sectarianism and balkanisation.

00:03:13.900 No. No.

00:03:15.160 The interesting thing is, though, Bo, is we knew about this for months.

00:03:19.540 In fact, we knew for a long time that there's a problem with Raj.

00:03:24.760 We just, we have a very much, a very English polite way of thinking that things will change

00:03:33.100 and things will just be, you know.

00:03:34.820 Maybe he's secretly.

00:03:35.540 Maybe he's like, okay, well, he may change.

00:03:39.680 He may change.

00:03:41.040 No.

00:03:42.040 No, we've not seen anything.

00:03:43.960 How many times does he have to betray the base of whatever party he's in?

00:03:47.980 How many times do we have to go through that?

00:03:49.520 Morgoth did a good video about this the other day.

00:03:51.740 How many times does he get himself put on a pedestal and then betray the base?

00:03:57.480 I mean, there's two aspects to this, isn't there?

00:03:59.320 One is all the individuals he's betrayed.

00:04:02.160 So the Morgoth point is that Farage has ended more right-wing careers than, you know,

00:04:06.440 left-wing pressure groups and communists ever have.

00:04:09.420 You know, he's been working his way through the right-wing movement,

00:04:13.100 picking up people of talent, bringing them on board,

00:04:16.380 waiting until they're just at the point where they've got a real voice of their own

00:04:19.600 and then immediately sabotaging them.

00:04:22.080 And he's done that.

00:04:22.840 So strange.

00:04:23.760 Maybe dozens, maybe scores of times.

00:04:26.380 What is that?

00:04:27.260 Lost track.

00:04:27.780 What is that, if not gatekeeping and containment?

00:04:30.860 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:31.340 What else can you call that?

00:04:33.680 That's the thing.

00:04:34.140 I genuinely don't know if this is a pathology or an actual containment operation.

00:04:40.400 Yeah.

00:04:40.540 But the thing is, it doesn't matter because the outcome is the same either way.

00:04:45.600 And to add, there's only so much you can say,

00:04:49.160 well, it's someone whispering in his ear, saying, giving him advice on all these things.

00:04:54.140 You know, we've all talked about ego, egotism.

00:04:56.440 We've all talked about whether that plays a massive role.

00:05:00.040 It's the only really answer.

00:05:02.200 And a lot of people that are going on all the mainstream platforms, talk TV, GB News, all of these guys,

00:05:09.260 people that were close with him or, you know, have worked with him are saying all the same thing.

00:05:16.420 This is all about him.

00:05:18.020 You know, people have tried to say about democratization of the party, whether that is on the cards and it's been promised over and over again.

00:05:28.620 Yes, that is happening.

00:05:29.640 We're well on our way of doing it.

00:05:31.160 But there's been no movement on that.

00:05:33.760 So I used to look at this guy, you know, perhaps even not that long ago.

00:05:37.460 And yeah, I know he had flaws.

00:05:38.640 And yeah, I know there was stuff in the background with characters who, you know, mysteriously exited the stage left, all that kind of thing.

00:05:44.480 But basically, I would look at him and think, OK, there's a I was fairly charmed by the man.

00:05:48.980 Yeah, so was I.

00:05:49.580 You know, he's a good right wing voice and he's saying sensible stuff and he's a bit weak here and there and doesn't quite compute.

00:05:56.720 But, OK, suppress it, suppress it.

00:05:58.100 Don't even think about that.

00:05:59.760 Now I just look at the man and I just see a snake who is basically hollowing out the right.

00:06:07.480 He's systematically setting fire to every right wing cause and personality so that he can be the king of the ashes.

00:06:15.060 Yeah, the king of gatekeepers.

00:06:16.380 The positive to this is it's done so early on.

00:06:22.680 You say early on.

00:06:23.560 Well, early on.

00:06:24.520 He's been doing this for 30 years.

00:06:25.880 At least it's not six months out from the next general election.

00:06:28.360 That's what I'm trying to say.

00:06:29.480 Yeah.

00:06:30.060 Apologies.

00:06:30.900 Yeah.

00:06:31.100 No, I mean, he's explicitly said a number of times, openly gloated about destroying the real right.

00:06:36.840 Yes.

00:06:38.040 It's his proudest moment, apparently.

00:06:40.240 What more do you want?

00:06:41.280 I mean, I see him as some sort of final boss for the real right.

00:06:44.620 Real conservatives with a small c.

00:06:46.140 Real patriots.

00:06:47.440 It's like this giant toad just squatting on the fringes of the right.

00:06:51.940 This giant hypno toad.

00:06:53.880 Hypno toad.

00:06:54.840 Giant Farage bot squatting on the fringes of the right.

00:06:57.580 Anything an inch to the right of him.

00:06:59.980 He's crushed.

00:07:00.540 Kill it.

00:07:00.900 Close it down.

00:07:01.560 End it.

00:07:02.380 Yeah.

00:07:03.140 Well, and so, yeah, you're right.

00:07:04.720 He has for years been killing anything an inch to the right of him.

00:07:08.540 But by the same token, he's also been moving left that whole time.

00:07:11.740 Yeah.

00:07:11.980 So as we saw now, his position now is that basically we need to appease Islam until Islam takes over.

00:07:17.120 And there's nothing you can do about it.

00:07:18.680 It's like, well, why would I vote for that?

00:07:20.820 Insane.

00:07:20.980 That's insane.

00:07:22.460 That's insane.

00:07:23.300 Anyone wants a Britain or England to exist in a few decades' time.

00:07:27.260 That's insane.

00:07:27.920 If that's the policy, I'd rather go full accelerationist and bring the civil war about now, you know,

00:07:33.580 while we're still not completely demoralized.

00:07:36.220 How many times do you have to go through it?

00:07:37.260 How many examples are there throughout history of big Islamic populations coming,

00:07:42.280 eventually setting up their own political parties, all voting en masse for it and taking over?

00:07:48.340 Yeah.

00:07:48.860 And once a country becomes an Islamic country, it's always the same thing happens.

00:07:53.300 And that's the same thing that's happening in Syria right now.

00:07:56.980 Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran.

00:07:59.120 Lebanon.

00:07:59.480 Yeah.

00:07:59.680 It's all of them.

00:08:00.460 The moment it happens, yeah, then...

00:08:03.460 There's nothing that can be done about it.

00:08:05.160 It's just a fact.

00:08:05.960 Let's just...

00:08:07.040 Don't try and push back.

00:08:09.120 Don't say anything.

00:08:10.240 In fact, don't even say anything.

00:08:11.540 Otherwise, you'll be on the pale.

00:08:12.940 How about no?

00:08:14.240 No, no, no.

00:08:14.660 We don't want to stand...

00:08:15.320 No, no, no.

00:08:15.540 Not this time.

00:08:16.440 Not this time.

00:08:17.040 No, no, no.

00:08:17.400 I don't think so.

00:08:18.820 And I...

00:08:19.440 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:08:20.820 I mean, it is so good that this didn't happen just a few months before the election

00:08:25.240 because we realise now that, you know, any support that we lent to reform and Farage

00:08:31.720 was basically following a mirage in the desert.

00:08:35.840 And we've still got people travelling with us who are saying,

00:08:39.040 no, no, I'm so thirsty, I'm so desperate, I want to keep going towards the mirage.

00:08:43.240 And it's like, no, no, if you keep going in that direction, you're taking yourself further and further away.

00:08:48.120 You're just making it more difficult.

00:08:49.700 Any energy invested in reform at this point, I realise, is just wasted energy.

00:08:53.520 Because he is either consciously or unconsciously a containment effort.

00:08:57.840 I'd like to say as well, obviously, I'm coming at this from another angle as well.

00:09:05.300 Man is very valuable, as we know, extremely valuable.

00:09:10.300 You can't really...

00:09:12.180 That's why idol worship throughout history is extremely frowned upon in all sorts.

00:09:18.680 So, we have to remind ourselves that, you know, people, mankind is extremely valuable.

00:09:26.920 And we can see with Farage how valuable he is, not to give him credit,

00:09:33.180 because what he's been doing is just totally outrageous.

00:09:35.960 I've met him twice.

00:09:37.080 And I'll keep it quick.

00:09:41.220 I've met Farage twice.

00:09:43.080 Both times, it was very rude to me, personally.

00:09:48.720 Okay.

00:09:49.080 One was at a Reason conference,

00:09:51.400 where I was with Maya Tuzi,

00:09:55.180 and we spoke, and he said,

00:09:57.180 would you like to meet him?

00:09:57.900 I said, yeah, I'd love to.

00:09:59.180 That was great.

00:10:00.580 So, I got to meet him, shook his hand, and I said...

00:10:04.080 The first thing I said was, oh, it's lovely to meet you.

00:10:07.080 And this was a few years ago now.

00:10:09.780 And I said, you know,

00:10:11.240 really admire what you've done with, you know, Brexit and everything.

00:10:15.900 You know, thank you.

00:10:17.120 And he went, you need to get out more.

00:10:20.720 What?

00:10:21.040 Really?

00:10:21.960 What?

00:10:22.460 That was what he said.

00:10:23.300 Wow.

00:10:23.580 He said, maybe we should get out more.

00:10:25.800 What?

00:10:26.440 And I went red, and everyone around laughed.

00:10:30.200 And I felt so humiliated.

00:10:33.220 And I was kind of like...

00:10:34.220 Wow, that's really...

00:10:35.000 I mean, I have people come up to me on the street,

00:10:36.500 and I'd...

00:10:37.080 Yeah.

00:10:37.700 I mean, they're supporters.

00:10:38.840 You're just always nice to them.

00:10:40.100 I mean, that's just...

00:10:41.100 You went, oh, I said, oh, I'm a massive fan.

00:10:44.820 You know, what your work's done is fantastic.

00:10:48.900 And he went, maybe you should get out more.

00:10:52.960 That was the response.

00:10:54.200 So, I still have that even years ago.

00:10:57.760 Last time I met him was...

00:10:59.700 Must have been almost 20 years ago,

00:11:01.700 but I went down the pub with him and had dinner with him,

00:11:04.100 and he was perfectly charming.

00:11:05.180 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:05.620 And all the rest of it.

00:11:06.300 Yeah, great.

00:11:07.280 I mean, one thing I have heard said is that the plane crash changed him.

00:11:10.840 Yeah.

00:11:11.260 That maybe he's got some sort of PSD after that or something.

00:11:13.500 But then, to be fair, this behavior of destroying rivals was going on...

00:11:17.080 Sure.

00:11:18.060 ...well before that.

00:11:19.060 Sorry, the second time was during this campaign of reform and met him in Clacton.

00:11:26.880 And I thought, oh, I'll try and get like a question at least.

00:11:29.800 I wanted to actually confront him about his comments about Tony Blair,

00:11:35.220 him being the Tsar, the V...

00:11:37.980 Can't say the full word, but, you know,

00:11:40.420 about, you know, whether he's rolled back on that comments.

00:11:44.860 Does he still believe in that?

00:11:46.220 The video's still up of him, you know, exclaiming that.

00:11:49.640 But I started with a first question,

00:11:51.460 because he was attacked several times during his campaign.

00:11:54.780 That's awful.

00:11:55.720 And I said, you know, how are you mentally coping with that?

00:11:59.600 First question.

00:12:01.000 Fine.

00:12:01.900 Walked straight off.

00:12:03.640 Didn't want to...

00:12:04.820 I said, I asked, can I...

00:12:06.120 May I ask you a few questions?

00:12:07.480 And he went...

00:12:09.820 And I'm sitting there going,

00:12:12.160 I don't know if he knows me.

00:12:13.940 I don't...

00:12:14.320 I know I wouldn't expect him to.

00:12:15.700 That's fine.

00:12:16.360 Whatever.

00:12:16.780 It doesn't matter.

00:12:17.420 I'm not bothered about that.

00:12:18.780 But courtesy, I thought.

00:12:21.560 And after those two interactions,

00:12:23.440 I put the first one behind me and I thought,

00:12:25.880 Yeah.

00:12:26.220 Fine.

00:12:27.000 But the second one,

00:12:28.640 I realized after,

00:12:31.300 like,

00:12:32.180 you can't rely.

00:12:33.220 I just want to pick up on something

00:12:34.760 that somebody's mentioned in the comments about,

00:12:36.660 oh, it's down to Zaya Yusuf has captured him

00:12:38.560 and that kind of stuff.

00:12:39.580 Right.

00:12:39.960 I'm not sure that's the case,

00:12:40.980 because this is a pattern of behavior

00:12:42.120 that goes back well before Zaya Yusuf.

00:12:44.080 I think Zaya Yusuf was selected

00:12:45.680 because he's the right sort of hatchet man for him.

00:12:49.120 You know, he can do the internal hatchet stuff.

00:12:51.460 It wasn't by accident.

00:12:52.800 Yeah.

00:12:53.260 Was it?

00:12:53.900 Yeah.

00:12:54.540 I mean, just because Nigel was strong on Brexit,

00:12:59.220 that doesn't really mean anything.

00:13:00.820 Okay, he was based on the European project.

00:13:02.920 All right.

00:13:03.440 Fine.

00:13:03.880 Well done.

00:13:05.540 And everything else is just some Tory wet.

00:13:08.400 Some liberal, really.

00:13:09.580 Yeah.

00:13:09.760 Well, and he's hiring wets as well.

00:13:11.620 Yeah.

00:13:11.940 Some globalist.

00:13:13.380 Yeah.

00:13:13.580 Any Tory who wants to join him.

00:13:14.880 He's not the guy.

00:13:15.560 It's like he found the crown in the gutter,

00:13:18.260 but just booted it along to a sewer drain.

00:13:20.520 Yeah.

00:13:21.400 Oh, no.

00:13:21.640 He found the crown in the gutter

00:13:22.900 and immediately sold it to a Sri Lankan called Mohammed.

00:13:26.580 He wrapped it up in a used nappy

00:13:28.620 and popped it straight in a skit.

00:13:30.360 You compare that to Lowe.

00:13:31.540 I mean, Lowe's staff wrote a letter for him

00:13:34.840 basically saying that they fully appreciate

00:13:37.620 what it is that, you know, the way that Lowe behaves.

00:13:41.640 They point out this allegation of bullying,

00:13:44.780 which apparently was so severe

00:13:46.160 that they needed to report Rupert Lowe to the police.

00:13:48.240 And just bear in mind,

00:13:49.120 the reason you report somebody to the police

00:13:50.860 is because you want them jailed.

00:13:52.540 Yeah.

00:13:53.140 And that's what reform did to Rupert Lowe.

00:13:55.600 It turns out that these bullying allegations

00:13:58.280 were not only just coming from his staff,

00:14:00.940 but actually they're coming from a woman

00:14:02.820 who was just on the verge of being dismissed.

00:14:05.160 And on her way out,

00:14:06.000 she decided to make up all these vexious complaints,

00:14:08.560 one of which was a bullying.

00:14:09.920 And that's what he's been reported to the police for.

00:14:13.600 I mean, this is a beautifully well-written letter

00:14:15.900 from Rupert's staff.

00:14:17.840 In fact, it reminded me in terms of well-written letters

00:14:21.140 to this, which is the Islander.

00:14:24.780 So if you would like to support us,

00:14:26.920 we are demonetised.

00:14:28.180 We don't get anything from YouTube whatsoever.

00:14:29.920 The only reason we are here

00:14:31.100 is because people support us.

00:14:32.880 If you don't support us,

00:14:33.620 we're not going to be here any longer.

00:14:35.020 So if you'd like to do so,

00:14:36.460 please buy Islander 3.

00:14:38.020 Very smooth.

00:14:38.800 I like that.

00:14:39.160 Yes, I did that as much as I could.

00:14:41.900 The underlying issue that I got here,

00:14:44.440 and Burnside points it out very well,

00:14:46.420 is...

00:14:46.600 D.I. Burnside?

00:14:47.920 Yes, D.I. Burnside.

00:14:49.180 He's still active on Twitter.

00:14:51.220 Blast from the past.

00:14:52.000 He points out,

00:14:53.640 if Raj can contrive a load of horse something

00:14:57.300 against his best MPs,

00:14:59.440 I don't think he is above spouting

00:15:01.240 absolute something ahead of the next election

00:15:03.100 as he has no intention of delivering.

00:15:05.160 And this is the main thing.

00:15:06.180 It's like,

00:15:06.940 Nigel used to say some...

00:15:09.460 He used to be at the right-hand side

00:15:11.100 of the Overton window,

00:15:12.720 but as the Overton window expands,

00:15:15.040 he's actually been moving further to the left.

00:15:16.640 He's saying now,

00:15:17.260 under no circumstances

00:15:18.380 are we going to deport anyone.

00:15:19.560 You know,

00:15:20.880 even the Tories and the Labour Party

00:15:22.640 are now to the right of reform.

00:15:24.440 I think he's out of touch.

00:15:26.640 I think he hasn't read the room.

00:15:28.540 I don't really like the expression,

00:15:29.760 but there's been a vibe shift

00:15:30.960 with Trump and Vance and everything.

00:15:33.020 Yeah, you would have thought

00:15:33.780 that that would be emanated here,

00:15:36.100 trickled down.

00:15:36.900 And now there's people like Jenrick

00:15:38.620 and the people that surround Jenrick

00:15:39.940 are further to the right than Nigel.

00:15:41.260 So what's the point?

00:15:42.460 Yeah.

00:15:43.080 What's the point of it?

00:15:44.340 Oh no.

00:15:44.820 Well, the point is,

00:15:46.080 possibly,

00:15:46.840 to carry on destroying right-wing careers.

00:15:48.480 Yeah.

00:15:49.560 That seems to be the only function

00:15:51.840 that he has left.

00:15:53.420 I don't see how it can be described.

00:15:56.260 Now, after the low incident,

00:15:58.960 I don't see how it can be described

00:16:00.660 as anything other than

00:16:01.580 a containment project.

00:16:02.680 Yeah.

00:16:03.200 I mean, we talk about

00:16:03.800 the number of personalities

00:16:04.820 that have been taken out by Farage,

00:16:07.400 but I mean,

00:16:07.920 here's another one

00:16:08.620 that I've completely forgotten.

00:16:09.700 And I saw this pop up

00:16:10.600 and I thought,

00:16:10.900 oh yeah, Henry Bolton as well.

00:16:12.640 I mean,

00:16:12.940 it's legion,

00:16:15.100 the number of people.

00:16:15.840 I mean,

00:16:16.260 I remember Kilroy Silk

00:16:17.740 and Godfrey Bloom

00:16:18.800 and Stephen Wolfe.

00:16:20.540 Baton.

00:16:20.840 Susan Evans Baton.

00:16:22.620 Yeah.

00:16:24.660 Ben Habib,

00:16:25.580 of course.

00:16:26.640 But when you start looking into it,

00:16:28.740 there are literally dozens

00:16:29.900 and dozens of these people

00:16:31.040 that he's taken out.

00:16:32.680 And Henry Bolton here,

00:16:33.620 he basically just explains

00:16:35.020 quite neatly

00:16:35.920 the way it was done to him.

00:16:39.100 And basically,

00:16:40.360 they throw a lot of shit at you

00:16:41.940 and some of it sticks.

00:16:44.540 And he has a bigger megaphone

00:16:46.120 than the person

00:16:47.900 that he's smearing.

00:16:49.000 So some of it sticks.

00:16:50.200 They keep repeating it.

00:16:51.180 They push him out of the party.

00:16:52.260 What's he going to do at that point?

00:16:53.460 And that's it.

00:16:53.940 You're done.

00:16:55.100 Done it again and again.

00:16:57.260 The real riot,

00:16:58.000 real patrons have got to step over Farage.

00:17:00.380 Got to get past him.

00:17:01.720 Yeah.

00:17:01.860 He's simply in the way.

00:17:04.140 Now,

00:17:04.740 it's as simple as that.

00:17:05.920 The way that Boris or Rishi

00:17:08.220 was just simply in the way.

00:17:09.980 Yes.

00:17:10.880 Of saving us.

00:17:12.200 Of saving this country once again

00:17:13.380 from a nightmare future

00:17:15.440 of endless sectarian violence.

00:17:18.800 We have to remember as well.

00:17:19.360 And the balkanization.

00:17:20.720 We have to remember as well,

00:17:21.500 the uni party

00:17:22.720 has four parties

00:17:24.680 all at the same.

00:17:27.440 And reform was supposed to be

00:17:28.800 the odd one out.

00:17:30.160 But they're not,

00:17:31.460 clearly.

00:17:32.240 Because Farage has wanted

00:17:34.580 to be in parliament

00:17:35.480 for a long time.

00:17:36.600 He came second or third

00:17:38.000 in a lot of his,

00:17:39.940 you know,

00:17:41.340 elections

00:17:41.980 of him trying to win

00:17:44.540 a vote to become an MP.

00:17:46.700 And he's finally got it,

00:17:48.300 this arc

00:17:49.140 that he's finally fulfilled.

00:17:50.560 And I can't help but think

00:17:56.040 and it's quite clear

00:17:57.260 to see that it is this

00:17:58.640 and it can't be anything else

00:18:00.040 that it is to do

00:18:01.400 with ego.

00:18:03.080 And politics

00:18:04.900 is such a dirty game.

00:18:06.800 I actually hate politics.

00:18:08.160 I see it as a sport.

00:18:09.840 Right?

00:18:10.800 And, you know,

00:18:11.860 you disagree with me

00:18:13.260 all you like,

00:18:14.220 it's fine.

00:18:14.900 That's why I said that

00:18:15.880 mankind is very valuable.

00:18:17.440 So don't put your faith

00:18:19.480 in man

00:18:20.340 is my point.

00:18:22.500 Because you're only going to have

00:18:23.800 a very,

00:18:24.360 very bad time.

00:18:27.040 And you will be.

00:18:27.660 But don't put your faith

00:18:28.320 in Nigel Farage either

00:18:29.400 because, you know.

00:18:30.400 Yeah, absolutely.

00:18:31.480 But the worrying thing is

00:18:33.300 the normies

00:18:38.180 are going to be very slow

00:18:39.380 to update their mental software.

00:18:41.440 The normies have only

00:18:42.360 just caught up

00:18:43.060 with the fact

00:18:43.480 that Boris Johnson

00:18:44.820 imported a million people

00:18:46.080 a year

00:18:46.640 as soon as he got

00:18:47.680 into office.

00:18:48.380 And the disaffected

00:18:49.040 Tory boys are still

00:18:50.040 completely on the Farage

00:18:51.160 wagon.

00:18:53.520 And made their jump

00:18:54.540 from the Tory party

00:18:55.340 to reform

00:18:55.780 and now they're remiss

00:18:57.220 to actually notice

00:18:58.440 that Farage is...

00:18:59.680 And a Lib Dem candidate

00:19:00.640 just recently.

00:19:01.820 Yeah.

00:19:02.420 So what's going to happen here?

00:19:03.740 Are we going to...

00:19:04.880 Because anyone

00:19:05.920 who is paying attention,

00:19:07.080 anyone who is politically aware

00:19:08.380 sees Nigel Farage

00:19:09.780 for what he is.

00:19:10.280 To be fair,

00:19:11.320 a lot of people

00:19:11.860 saw it earlier.

00:19:13.740 And they will admit

00:19:15.400 themselves

00:19:15.840 that they just kind of

00:19:16.480 kept quiet about it

00:19:17.340 because there was too much

00:19:18.140 energy behind Nigel Farage.

00:19:19.760 But Nigel Farage

00:19:20.480 does this again and again.

00:19:21.540 He gathers up

00:19:22.600 a huge amount of energy

00:19:23.360 and then he dissipates it

00:19:24.280 at the critical moment.

00:19:25.480 He did it when he was

00:19:26.240 in UKIP.

00:19:27.040 The most famous example

00:19:28.060 is just before

00:19:28.720 the 2019 election

00:19:30.020 when he disbanded

00:19:31.020 the Brexit party.

00:19:31.720 Well, he didn't disband it,

00:19:32.580 but he basically stood it

00:19:33.600 down almost everywhere.

00:19:35.660 That's with Calvin Robinson

00:19:36.760 as well.

00:19:38.420 Was that?

00:19:38.860 Calvin was going to stand

00:19:39.940 for the Brexit party,

00:19:40.680 I believe.

00:19:41.120 Yeah, that was a massive,

00:19:43.900 massive betrayal that.

00:19:45.620 I mean, unbelievable.

00:19:46.780 Yeah.

00:19:47.460 He handed it to,

00:19:48.960 well, he handed power

00:19:50.080 to Boris Johnson

00:19:50.980 who then imported

00:19:52.120 over a million people

00:19:53.560 a year

00:19:53.960 to the third world.

00:19:55.260 I think Nigel's just

00:19:56.760 always wanted to be

00:19:57.660 accepted by the establishment.

00:19:59.080 Yeah, that's it.

00:19:59.700 To be a Tory MP

00:20:00.380 and to lead the Tory party.

00:20:01.920 And they didn't want him.

00:20:03.260 For whatever reason,

00:20:04.020 they always thought

00:20:04.680 he was beyond the power.

00:20:05.540 So he'll make his own thing,

00:20:06.740 create his own thing,

00:20:07.360 but it will just essentially

00:20:08.240 be Tories 2.0,

00:20:10.600 not even as strong

00:20:11.760 as a Generic-led party,

00:20:13.460 for example,

00:20:13.960 which is kind of

00:20:14.480 milquetoast to me.

00:20:15.700 Generic's still a choir boy

00:20:16.820 as far as I'm concerned.

00:20:18.060 Right?

00:20:18.760 But that's what Nigel

00:20:20.180 has always wanted.

00:20:21.860 And that's why

00:20:22.940 he will have any defections

00:20:24.140 from the Tories, of course.

00:20:25.640 Jerry Goh, have them in, yes.

00:20:26.800 And I made this point

00:20:27.840 to Lewis earlier.

00:20:28.480 I guarantee that

00:20:29.140 as we get closer

00:20:29.800 to the next election,

00:20:30.660 if it looks like

00:20:31.220 reform is going to win,

00:20:32.580 there'll be like 50 defections

00:20:34.020 from the Tories.

00:20:35.040 And he'll take all of them.

00:20:35.920 I won't be surprised

00:20:36.540 if they have a full-blown pact

00:20:38.180 sometime.

00:20:38.580 Oh, yeah, 100%.

00:20:40.100 Yeah.

00:20:40.840 That's what I'm visioning now.

00:20:43.460 Well, Richard Tice

00:20:44.240 has been very clear

00:20:44.920 in private for a long time

00:20:46.040 that it's all about

00:20:46.740 the fact that he

00:20:47.420 wasn't allowed to be

00:20:48.480 a Tory MP

00:20:49.040 and he's taking revenge on them.

00:20:50.780 Yeah, it's vengeful.

00:20:52.120 It's vengeful,

00:20:53.000 but it's still part

00:20:54.080 of the establishment.

00:20:55.900 That was my point.

00:20:56.800 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:57.920 That was my point earlier

00:20:58.920 about not really

00:21:00.120 reading the room,

00:21:01.040 being too old,

00:21:03.500 too boomerish,

00:21:05.120 too set on the old paradigms,

00:21:07.500 the post-war consensus

00:21:08.460 and all that sort of thing

00:21:09.760 to sort of actually

00:21:11.560 break out of the mould

00:21:13.240 and actually talk about

00:21:14.180 new politics,

00:21:15.720 talk about difficult policies

00:21:17.520 that are required

00:21:18.680 to save the country.

00:21:19.580 All he really wants to do

00:21:20.760 is appeal to Channel 4

00:21:22.860 under the Guardian.

00:21:24.000 In fact,

00:21:24.220 there's a little

00:21:24.880 Channel 4 mini-documentary

00:21:26.620 put out on this matter

00:21:27.660 a couple of days ago

00:21:29.120 and they're kind of

00:21:30.540 going around the reform

00:21:31.460 sort of new HQ

00:21:32.660 and he's basically saying

00:21:34.440 this is where

00:21:34.800 all the action happens

00:21:35.680 and the Channel 4 guy's like,

00:21:37.560 okay, well,

00:21:37.780 what's the key thing?

00:21:38.580 It's like,

00:21:38.820 oh, it's candidate vetting.

00:21:40.400 The Channel 4 guy says,

00:21:41.340 well, is that,

00:21:41.740 which is when you go

00:21:42.240 through their social history

00:21:43.060 to see if they've said

00:21:43.860 anything interesting?

00:21:44.760 He's like, yeah,

00:21:45.160 it's mostly that.

00:21:46.420 So, you know,

00:21:47.260 he is desperately

00:21:48.380 trying to appeal

00:21:49.300 to people who are

00:21:49.940 never going to vote for him.

00:21:51.400 Yeah.

00:21:52.100 Or, I don't know,

00:21:53.980 or whatever the situation is.

00:21:55.900 Surround himself with sheep.

00:21:58.900 Yeah.

00:21:59.400 Great idea,

00:22:00.340 to be perfectly honest.

00:22:02.320 Nigel Farage is still tweeting

00:22:03.720 as if nothing has happened.

00:22:04.860 Yeah, that's one of the most funny

00:22:06.580 stroke frustrating things.

00:22:08.480 Yeah.

00:22:08.760 Just pretend nothing's wrong.

00:22:10.840 Oh, clearly,

00:22:12.020 him and the top bra,

00:22:13.000 so him,

00:22:13.620 Zayah Yusuf and Tice

00:22:14.640 have all got together

00:22:15.540 and they've decided

00:22:16.700 this is so bad for us

00:22:18.340 that we're just going to,

00:22:19.120 we're just going to ignore it

00:22:20.200 and see if that works.

00:22:21.400 So he's coming out.

00:22:22.140 So it's quite funny, though,

00:22:23.340 because this morning

00:22:24.060 he's saying that he's going,

00:22:25.480 going for gold in Hull

00:22:26.680 and East Yorkshire

00:22:27.420 with Luke Campbell.

00:22:28.280 And I just retweeted that

00:22:29.360 and said,

00:22:29.700 Luke Campbell, mate,

00:22:30.500 make sure you don't get too popular.

00:22:32.540 Yeah.

00:22:32.980 Yeah.

00:22:33.360 Because he's going to be

00:22:33.880 booted next as well.

00:22:34.820 Yeah, of course.

00:22:35.300 Or say anything about

00:22:36.580 the future destruction

00:22:38.240 of this country demographically.

00:22:39.720 Don't mention that.

00:22:40.660 Or legal migration.

00:22:41.900 Like the thing,

00:22:42.720 the thing that Nigel does,

00:22:44.060 even just a day

00:22:45.020 or two ago,

00:22:46.560 tweeting about

00:22:47.100 the boat people,

00:22:47.820 how many numbers

00:22:49.300 have come across the channel

00:22:50.200 as boat migrants.

00:22:51.940 Yeah, we all know.

00:22:53.520 Yeah, we know.

00:22:54.800 Yeah.

00:22:54.980 Now give us a strong policy.

00:22:57.260 Now talk about

00:22:58.020 legal migration.

00:22:59.560 Yes.

00:23:00.100 Be strong.

00:23:00.920 Be a leader.

00:23:01.720 Save us.

00:23:02.500 No, no, no.

00:23:03.240 None of that.

00:23:04.080 None of that.

00:23:04.780 And if you try,

00:23:05.820 we'll dob you into the police

00:23:07.180 for some spurious reasons.

00:23:08.560 Yeah.

00:23:09.360 Filth.

00:23:10.180 Filth.

00:23:10.460 Nobody cares about

00:23:11.480 the allegations.

00:23:12.120 Unacceptable.

00:23:12.780 Because it's obvious

00:23:13.480 that they're bullshit.

00:23:15.420 I think so.

00:23:16.220 I would have thought so.

00:23:17.040 I wasn't there,

00:23:17.640 so I don't know,

00:23:18.300 but I'd put decent money on them.

00:23:20.400 I'm not even going to entertain it.

00:23:21.940 I mean,

00:23:22.180 this was the mistake I made

00:23:24.000 in the early days

00:23:24.700 of the Trump admin

00:23:25.480 of the Russian collusion stuff.

00:23:27.580 I thought,

00:23:27.920 okay,

00:23:28.120 well,

00:23:28.240 it's probably bullshit,

00:23:29.180 but let's see what they've got.

00:23:30.840 From now on,

00:23:31.520 I'm just like,

00:23:32.000 no.

00:23:32.920 No,

00:23:33.460 I'm just not even entertaining it.

00:23:36.020 It's clearly complete rubbish.

00:23:38.400 And that Rupert Lowe

00:23:39.360 could sort of physically intimidate

00:23:41.140 or assault Zia Yusuf.

00:23:42.660 Like,

00:23:42.820 aren't they 30 years different?

00:23:45.580 Well,

00:23:45.780 actually,

00:23:46.060 I put out a tweet

00:23:46.740 that did very well,

00:23:47.900 a couple of satirical tweets.

00:23:49.200 One of them was,

00:23:50.540 Nigel Farage has had his dog put down

00:23:52.580 because according to internal polling,

00:23:54.920 the dog was getting more popular than him.

00:23:56.660 And the second one

00:23:57.520 was that a 93-year-old reform counsellor

00:24:00.120 would beat up the Bath rugby team.

00:24:03.780 Right.

00:24:03.880 Because I mean,

00:24:04.440 it's basically a parody

00:24:05.620 of what's going on here.

00:24:06.600 Yeah.

00:24:07.120 Apparently,

00:24:07.680 Zia Yusuf felt threatened

00:24:08.900 by 67-year-old Rupert Lowe.

00:24:12.520 And the crazy thing is,

00:24:13.600 right,

00:24:13.720 Rupert Lowe could actually build,

00:24:15.700 if he was leader of reform,

00:24:17.580 he could build it

00:24:18.160 into a major operation

00:24:18.900 because he's run major operations.

00:24:20.440 I mean,

00:24:20.580 he ran Southampton Football Club

00:24:21.800 and other large organisations.

00:24:23.100 Yeah.

00:24:23.540 And if he can deal

00:24:24.160 with a bunch of football players,

00:24:26.460 I'm sure he can manage

00:24:27.120 a bunch of politicians.

00:24:28.220 Well,

00:24:28.380 he said on the Dan Wooten,

00:24:30.180 his appearance yesterday,

00:24:31.980 he said that,

00:24:32.640 you know,

00:24:33.400 he went,

00:24:33.660 this is child's play

00:24:34.800 in comparison

00:24:35.800 to what I've had before,

00:24:36.840 you know,

00:24:37.060 sitting in a stadium

00:24:38.060 where so many people

00:24:39.620 shouting about you,

00:24:41.220 like calling you

00:24:42.000 all sorts of names

00:24:42.780 in front of your wife.

00:24:43.320 That sounds like

00:24:43.820 our comment section.

00:24:47.220 And,

00:24:47.780 you know,

00:24:48.840 he's like,

00:24:49.660 this is child's play

00:24:50.540 like in comparison,

00:24:51.540 but it's,

00:24:51.960 it's,

00:24:52.500 it's such a betrayal

00:24:53.620 and you can see spirit,

00:24:56.560 you know,

00:24:57.140 with leadership,

00:24:58.220 you need spirit,

00:24:59.160 right?

00:24:59.460 You need,

00:25:00.320 you need that drive.

00:25:02.860 Not a dark demonic spirit.

00:25:04.920 Exactly.

00:25:05.740 And,

00:25:06.240 sorry.

00:25:06.980 No,

00:25:07.160 no,

00:25:07.260 no,

00:25:07.360 no,

00:25:07.420 that's.

00:25:07.960 He could have been,

00:25:09.160 he could have been the leader of the,

00:25:10.420 I joke about that he found the crown in the gutter

00:25:13.120 instead of picking it up with his sword,

00:25:15.200 just chucked it in a skip or whatever.

00:25:16.620 Yeah,

00:25:16.840 he could have been the king,

00:25:19.100 he could have united the right.

00:25:20.440 This is the thing.

00:25:20.940 I don't think Lowe had the slightest interest

00:25:23.240 of replacing him as leader.

00:25:24.400 No.

00:25:24.820 Lowe was just doing his job

00:25:25.980 and got too popular.

00:25:26.800 That's it.

00:25:27.540 For,

00:25:27.840 for Tyus and Nigel,

00:25:29.740 even like the Tommy crew

00:25:31.280 are beyond the pale.

00:25:33.400 Oh yeah,

00:25:33.680 because Tommy's one inch to the right of him.

00:25:35.860 So.

00:25:36.480 Yeah.

00:25:36.880 Again,

00:25:37.160 Tommy talks just like,

00:25:39.140 it's not strong stuff.

00:25:40.540 It's not extreme stuff

00:25:41.600 that Tommy talks about.

00:25:43.300 Like the idea that you and me

00:25:44.520 are far beyond the pale.

00:25:46.820 Yeah.

00:25:47.760 What does that mean?

00:25:48.260 Come on.

00:25:49.720 Come on.

00:25:50.440 Fair heads up,

00:25:52.600 Sanson.

00:25:52.840 I've just noticed that the last image

00:25:54.520 on my dock isn't up there.

00:25:56.160 If you can grab that in a moment.

00:25:58.080 Before I do that,

00:25:58.820 I'll just point out that,

00:26:00.040 you know,

00:26:00.640 it's not just MPs

00:26:02.820 that he's getting rid of.

00:26:04.180 You know,

00:26:04.340 this is a,

00:26:05.080 was it the Stafford branch of reform

00:26:06.880 had just been told

00:26:07.600 that all of their guys

00:26:09.060 have been booted out.

00:26:10.880 And,

00:26:11.340 you know,

00:26:11.980 this chap here on Twitter

00:26:13.080 is pointing out that,

00:26:14.240 yeah,

00:26:14.440 this is what the Tories do

00:26:15.660 whenever a local branch

00:26:16.760 threatens to become genuinely conservative.

00:26:19.260 They get rid of them

00:26:20.320 and impose leftists instead.

00:26:22.000 Just close it down,

00:26:23.240 literally close it down

00:26:24.480 and then parachute in

00:26:25.860 a bunch of people from HQ

00:26:27.060 who are towing the line

00:26:29.060 and are milqueto-centrists

00:26:30.640 or leftists in disguise.

00:26:32.400 Yeah,

00:26:32.580 exactly.

00:26:33.260 Classic.

00:26:33.480 So it's not just individuals.

00:26:35.660 It's whole branches

00:26:36.320 who look like

00:26:38.180 they might want

00:26:39.020 actual right-wing solutions

00:26:40.420 are getting the boot.

00:26:42.220 This is interesting though.

00:26:43.340 This was fascinating.

00:26:44.760 This was a poll

00:26:45.540 that came out

00:26:46.060 just before we went on air.

00:26:47.160 So I just managed to grab it

00:26:48.080 and add it in

00:26:48.640 because my concern was

00:26:50.220 is that the,

00:26:51.700 is basically

00:26:52.220 the boom of reform voters

00:26:53.280 wouldn't catch up in time.

00:26:54.940 But this is interesting.

00:26:56.140 33% of reform voters

00:26:57.880 now think the party

00:26:58.580 would do better

00:26:59.100 under a different leader.

00:26:59.900 That is a lot higher

00:27:01.880 than I thought it would be.

00:27:02.880 So this has had

00:27:04.520 a lot of cut through.

00:27:05.940 That's you, Gov, as well.

00:27:07.060 Yeah.

00:27:08.060 Problem is though,

00:27:09.240 it would just have to be

00:27:10.060 a new party

00:27:10.680 because reform

00:27:11.580 is Nigel Farage.

00:27:13.580 Reform,

00:27:14.220 no, no.

00:27:14.800 Nigel will make sure that...

00:27:16.480 He owns it, right?

00:27:17.300 He owns it.

00:27:18.240 Yeah,

00:27:18.540 Nigel will make sure

00:27:19.660 that the entire

00:27:20.740 right-wing movement

00:27:21.500 collapses

00:27:22.040 before he gives up reform.

00:27:23.380 Right.

00:27:23.700 Well,

00:27:24.480 okay.

00:27:24.880 Well, it's on then.

00:27:25.900 Well, the battle's on then.

00:27:26.920 Yeah.

00:27:27.280 Because you can't,

00:27:28.360 Nigel, I assume,

00:27:29.900 won't step down,

00:27:30.920 won't listen to any criticism.

00:27:32.540 And so there's no replacing,

00:27:33.560 there's no like

00:27:34.060 internal voting

00:27:35.340 within reform

00:27:36.340 within the membership

00:27:37.520 to replace him.

00:27:38.640 I don't believe

00:27:39.240 there's anything like that.

00:27:40.500 It's like a company,

00:27:41.860 essentially, isn't it,

00:27:42.400 that he owns

00:27:43.120 or the majority owns.

00:27:44.340 So he's not going in,

00:27:45.380 there's no change

00:27:46.120 of leadership happening

00:27:47.160 in reform.

00:27:49.040 Yes.

00:27:49.320 So it would have to be

00:27:50.120 a new party then.

00:27:51.020 Well, you say

00:27:51.580 it might have to be

00:27:52.200 a new party,

00:27:53.400 but putting together

00:27:54.200 a new party

00:27:54.740 is a difficult thing.

00:27:55.500 But here's another ray of light.

00:27:57.420 Mm-hmm.

00:27:57.800 Musk is considering

00:27:58.760 backing Rupert Lowe.

00:27:59.760 Oh.

00:28:00.140 So Lowe.

00:28:01.520 Is this recent?

00:28:02.680 Yeah.

00:28:02.980 This came out

00:28:03.940 just before we came on air.

00:28:05.200 Oh, right.

00:28:05.780 So we do know

00:28:07.240 that Lowe has been

00:28:07.880 communicating with Musk

00:28:09.120 by DMs on Twitter.

00:28:10.880 Really?

00:28:11.220 And Musk is apparently

00:28:12.980 saying, yeah,

00:28:13.680 well, Lowe,

00:28:14.520 if you form a new party,

00:28:16.120 you know,

00:28:16.320 here's a couple of

00:28:16.900 hundred million for you.

00:28:18.100 So actually,

00:28:19.380 it's not impossible

00:28:20.380 that we get to do

00:28:21.380 something about this

00:28:22.000 before the next

00:28:22.820 general election

00:28:23.520 because we can't have

00:28:25.520 Nigel Farage

00:28:26.240 sabotaging the right

00:28:27.140 again and again.

00:28:29.120 Remember as well,

00:28:30.140 like I said earlier,

00:28:31.160 the uni party

00:28:31.860 has about four or five parties.

00:28:33.940 So what's an extra one?

00:28:35.940 Like, you know,

00:28:36.580 in terms of the alternative.

00:28:38.860 It's like Bosa,

00:28:39.360 step over.

00:28:39.980 Yeah, step over.

00:28:40.560 Reform R, yeah.

00:28:42.780 Isn't Zia Yusuf

00:28:43.560 an actual WEF?

00:28:45.220 Yeah, I've heard of it.

00:28:46.100 Yeah, he was a WEF

00:28:47.400 leader, yeah.

00:28:48.940 If Rupert could make

00:28:50.220 a new party

00:28:50.780 and just get in

00:28:51.680 all the talents,

00:28:53.960 get in people like

00:28:55.100 Habib and Starkey.

00:28:55.680 There was so much

00:28:56.120 right-wing talent

00:28:57.160 left on the sidelines.

00:28:57.580 Get all the X ones

00:28:58.580 that Farage has banished.

00:29:01.180 Well, it's not even that.

00:29:02.240 I mean, this media outfit

00:29:04.440 as a start

00:29:05.380 would throw our weight

00:29:06.540 behind it.

00:29:07.080 We would support it.

00:29:08.260 Nigel has nothing to do with it.

00:29:09.880 He's never had anything

00:29:10.740 to do with us.

00:29:11.660 You know, do you remember

00:29:12.220 back in 2016,

00:29:14.680 Trump was out there

00:29:15.500 doing all the media himself.

00:29:16.720 He was going on

00:29:17.060 all those podcasts.

00:29:18.140 By 2024,

00:29:20.420 he didn't need to

00:29:21.500 because he had a whole

00:29:22.600 network of people

00:29:23.840 around him.

00:29:24.480 He was just sending out

00:29:25.380 his generals

00:29:26.760 to go out

00:29:27.400 and do the media,

00:29:28.540 but he built an operation

00:29:29.820 and he built it

00:29:30.900 at the ground level

00:29:31.740 or the podcast level

00:29:32.800 and then he sort of

00:29:33.300 went outwards from there

00:29:34.040 and he built a team.

00:29:35.200 Farage isn't doing

00:29:35.640 any of that.

00:29:36.800 It would be good

00:29:37.440 if Rupert got the backing

00:29:39.160 money-wise

00:29:40.040 from Uncle Elon

00:29:41.680 and then brought in

00:29:43.640 basically everyone

00:29:44.840 that Farage has

00:29:45.900 politically destroyed

00:29:46.780 over the years.

00:29:47.660 I think that's what we need.

00:29:49.440 Genuinely,

00:29:49.960 I think that's what we need.

00:29:50.260 Everyone from Bridgen

00:29:51.380 to Starkey.

00:29:52.300 If you took in

00:29:52.980 everybody that he's

00:29:54.260 destroyed over the years,

00:29:55.440 you'd be starting

00:29:56.260 on day one

00:29:57.000 with just a huge

00:29:59.220 number of talented people.

00:30:01.560 An embarrassment of riches.

00:30:02.460 Anyway,

00:30:03.020 we run out of time.

00:30:04.260 We better do

00:30:04.900 some of the comments.

00:30:06.140 The Binary Surfer says,

00:30:07.200 I will say it again

00:30:07.900 because it seems

00:30:08.920 our side requires

00:30:10.040 this lesson perennially.

00:30:12.000 Always one more time,

00:30:13.260 nobody's coming to save us.

00:30:14.640 We are not voting

00:30:15.260 our way out

00:30:15.980 at least any time soon.

00:30:17.220 Yes,

00:30:17.660 that may well be true.

00:30:19.420 Glee777 says,

00:30:21.540 here's my bet on Nigel

00:30:22.580 going to the same mosque

00:30:24.780 as King Charles.

00:30:26.060 Yes,

00:30:26.380 possibly.

00:30:27.000 Lord of Nothing says,

00:30:27.920 can't watch live lads,

00:30:29.180 just wants to let you know

00:30:30.120 that I've got

00:30:30.640 Islander 3.

00:30:31.380 Good man.

00:30:33.080 One day I will revive

00:30:34.220 Islander 2

00:30:35.060 and yes,

00:30:36.560 I have contacted Paul.

00:30:38.200 Please keep up

00:30:38.820 the good work,

00:30:39.380 especially Dan and Bo.

00:30:41.080 Good,

00:30:41.480 thank you very much.

00:30:43.840 Let me see.

00:30:45.560 Oh,

00:30:45.960 Not Just String says,

00:30:48.280 Farage wasn't great

00:30:49.640 for a long time

00:30:50.240 but we were hoping

00:30:51.000 there was a long con.

00:30:52.960 Play it safe

00:30:53.540 but for now,

00:30:53.980 Farage lacks the will.

00:30:55.880 Yes,

00:30:56.280 it does seem to be so.

00:30:58.000 Right,

00:30:58.380 okay.

00:30:59.980 That's you next.

00:31:01.720 Okay.

00:31:04.160 I will be back

00:31:05.040 in just a moment.

00:31:06.880 Hans got quick.

00:31:11.940 Bless you.

00:31:12.460 We're in between segments

00:31:14.860 now so we can...

00:31:15.640 Yeah,

00:31:15.880 so you can do that.

00:31:17.200 Sorry boys and girls,

00:31:18.220 hay fever season.

00:31:22.020 It's not on YouTube

00:31:22.860 so we can drop F bombs.

00:31:24.460 Yeah,

00:31:24.620 everywhere.

00:31:25.200 It's awful.

00:31:25.720 Right,

00:31:26.280 go.

00:31:26.920 All right.

00:31:28.380 Okay,

00:31:28.780 so it's just in the news cycle

00:31:29.800 at the moment

00:31:30.320 a little bit about

00:31:31.320 the absolute state

00:31:32.640 of Birmingham.

00:31:34.800 The broader point

00:31:35.520 I'm going to make here

00:31:36.100 is it's not just Birmingham

00:31:37.040 but it's been in the news

00:31:38.200 recently a little bit

00:31:39.480 about how people

00:31:41.760 that collect the refuge

00:31:43.360 or the rubbish

00:31:44.480 or the trash

00:31:45.280 as our American cousins

00:31:46.200 would say

00:31:46.580 are going on strike.

00:31:48.140 Indefinitely it looks like

00:31:49.200 and it's already

00:31:50.120 in a complete mess

00:31:51.300 and it's just

00:31:53.140 even though it's

00:31:53.980 sort of semi-interesting

00:31:55.160 in and of itself

00:31:55.760 the politics of it

00:31:56.680 and the process

00:31:57.260 of what's going on

00:31:58.180 just the broader point

00:31:59.720 the broader sweep

00:32:00.980 you know

00:32:02.260 the broader sort of trend

00:32:04.080 of descending

00:32:05.380 into a third world shithole.

00:32:08.000 Right,

00:32:08.720 yes.

00:32:09.900 Well it's happening

00:32:10.540 it's happening for our very eyes

00:32:11.580 there's the old thing

00:32:13.300 of diversity is a strength

00:32:14.760 you know

00:32:15.560 is it?

00:32:16.940 I've never figured out for who

00:32:18.320 yeah right

00:32:19.020 not in terms of

00:32:20.240 public health it's not

00:32:21.700 because Birmingham

00:32:22.920 is absolutely riddled

00:32:24.120 with vermin

00:32:24.780 literally rats.

00:32:26.360 Have you ever played

00:32:26.800 that game

00:32:27.300 where you

00:32:27.920 go to Google Maps

00:32:29.980 above India

00:32:30.600 and you get that

00:32:31.460 little yellow thing

00:32:32.240 the little yellow man

00:32:33.200 and you just drop it

00:32:34.460 at random

00:32:34.860 Street View

00:32:35.240 yeah you just drop it

00:32:36.680 at random

00:32:37.220 anywhere on India

00:32:38.380 and see how many times

00:32:40.460 you can do that

00:32:41.040 before you can't see

00:32:42.020 a pile of rubbish

00:32:43.060 wherever you land a pin

00:32:44.840 and I've done it

00:32:45.920 like 20 times

00:32:46.600 and every time

00:32:47.080 oh yeah there's a pile

00:32:47.920 of rubbish.

00:32:48.260 I saw the meme of that

00:32:49.420 yeah

00:32:50.040 well I've been to India

00:32:51.060 once

00:32:51.660 yeah

00:32:52.680 yeah once

00:32:53.440 yeah

00:32:53.720 only a stopover

00:32:54.840 but I did go outside

00:32:55.620 the airport

00:32:57.200 and I've been to a few

00:32:58.980 places in sort of

00:32:59.840 the third world

00:33:00.460 far east

00:33:01.440 and yeah

00:33:02.000 just

00:33:02.300 they don't collect

00:33:04.420 the rubbish

00:33:05.360 yeah

00:33:06.500 properly

00:33:07.080 right

00:33:08.520 I've been there as well

00:33:09.620 taxi drivers

00:33:10.300 will just finish a can

00:33:11.360 or bottle

00:33:11.740 and just toss it

00:33:12.260 straight out the window

00:33:12.880 well I do in places

00:33:14.340 like Thailand

00:33:15.020 Cambodia

00:33:15.720 Laos

00:33:16.520 Vietnam

00:33:16.940 yeah just

00:33:18.240 it's just a river

00:33:19.000 it's just completely

00:33:19.800 choked with rubbish

00:33:21.000 or just

00:33:22.420 at the end of the street

00:33:23.900 like in

00:33:24.940 Cambodia for example

00:33:26.820 there's no

00:33:27.540 the state doesn't

00:33:28.700 collect rubbish

00:33:29.480 you just dump it all

00:33:31.080 at the end of your road

00:33:32.360 and a giant pile of rubbish

00:33:34.400 emerges there

00:33:35.320 giant

00:33:35.640 and then

00:33:36.600 lots of homeless

00:33:37.660 and completely destitute

00:33:38.760 people

00:33:39.380 pick through it

00:33:40.460 for anything they can find

00:33:41.380 this is

00:33:42.500 and we're nearly there

00:33:43.820 but before we go on

00:33:44.840 I must mention

00:33:45.620 Ireland issue 3

00:33:46.980 do buy it

00:33:47.860 for the low low price

00:33:48.800 of £14.99

00:33:49.440 it's filled with great

00:33:50.840 articles

00:33:52.080 alright so

00:33:54.400 let's have a look then

00:33:55.140 the BBC

00:33:55.660 first and foremost

00:33:57.760 there you go

00:34:00.020 the rubbish is alive

00:34:01.060 rats feast on Birmingham

00:34:02.660 bin workers strike

00:34:03.740 sorry rats feast

00:34:05.160 as Birmingham

00:34:05.840 bin workers strike

00:34:06.660 so yeah

00:34:08.520 it's one thing

00:34:09.280 to be fair

00:34:09.740 I wouldn't have known

00:34:10.500 if the bin guys

00:34:11.840 were striking that week

00:34:12.640 or not

00:34:12.980 yeah it's true

00:34:13.820 I went to Brighton

00:34:15.100 like not too long ago

00:34:16.720 and it

00:34:17.260 Brighton had a

00:34:18.480 massive problem

00:34:20.200 even though it was

00:34:21.040 run by the Greens

00:34:21.960 famously run by the Greens

00:34:23.500 how ironic

00:34:23.920 yeah

00:34:24.520 and they had

00:34:25.300 that but on like

00:34:26.640 a scale

00:34:27.140 where it was

00:34:27.740 it was monumental

00:34:29.580 like the rubbish

00:34:30.900 across the streets

00:34:31.980 and it stunk

00:34:32.880 the entire like

00:34:33.900 streets out

00:34:34.880 and everyone was

00:34:36.020 tweeting about it

00:34:37.160 because obviously

00:34:37.820 the Greens run it

00:34:38.680 so it

00:34:39.400 like you said

00:34:40.060 it doesn't look

00:34:40.600 any different

00:34:41.240 it's one thing

00:34:42.680 that it's just

00:34:43.120 a mess

00:34:43.620 and stinks

00:34:44.260 sure

00:34:44.660 but that's sort

00:34:45.520 of the least of it

00:34:46.060 eventually

00:34:46.500 when it starts

00:34:47.380 to rot

00:34:47.800 you will get

00:34:48.200 infestations

00:34:48.800 of all types

00:34:49.620 of vermin

00:34:50.180 but particularly

00:34:50.620 rats

00:34:51.140 and then

00:34:52.580 you get disease

00:34:53.680 and then

00:34:54.760 you get things

00:34:55.420 like cholera

00:34:56.900 and plague

00:34:57.540 and typhus

00:34:58.200 and typhoid

00:34:58.720 if it goes long enough

00:34:59.460 that's why countries

00:35:00.320 like India

00:35:00.900 or Bangladesh

00:35:01.360 or whatever

00:35:02.000 lots of the third world

00:35:03.480 they still have

00:35:04.260 these types of diseases

00:35:05.240 there'll be a

00:35:05.740 breakout of cholera

00:35:06.920 we used to have those

00:35:08.340 you've poisoned

00:35:09.440 your water table

00:35:10.780 or whatever

00:35:11.360 we used to have

00:35:12.000 those sort of problems

00:35:12.580 in this country

00:35:13.100 about 250 years ago

00:35:14.580 and then we became

00:35:15.920 civilised

00:35:16.480 and it's weird

00:35:17.880 that something

00:35:18.820 is happening now

00:35:19.640 that is causing us

00:35:20.300 to become

00:35:20.740 aggressive

00:35:22.160 interesting that

00:35:23.820 particularly Birmingham

00:35:24.740 seems to be

00:35:25.420 inner city Birmingham

00:35:26.200 seems to be

00:35:26.660 the poster boy

00:35:27.300 for this

00:35:27.840 well of course

00:35:29.180 their councillors

00:35:30.100 are

00:35:31.280 well

00:35:34.520 first or second

00:35:36.180 generation

00:35:37.220 immigrants

00:35:38.280 oops

00:35:39.700 there you go

00:35:41.280 Aklak

00:35:44.180 Ahmed

00:35:46.320 Shema Ahmed

00:35:48.280 Gerdiel

00:35:50.280 Aptwal

00:35:50.900 Raqib Aziz

00:35:53.300 these are the people

00:35:54.220 that are councillors

00:35:55.060 for Birmingham

00:35:55.740 very typical

00:35:56.460 Birmingham names

00:35:57.240 Labour

00:35:57.540 it's a Labour run council

00:35:58.820 and

00:36:00.860 just the complete

00:36:02.860 the complete

00:36:04.020 dereliction of duty

00:36:05.240 the idea that

00:36:06.360 you keep things

00:36:07.220 nice and neat

00:36:08.100 and clean

00:36:09.720 you spend a lot

00:36:11.580 of energy and time

00:36:12.500 keeping things neat

00:36:13.300 and clean

00:36:13.800 speak and span

00:36:14.680 the right tool

00:36:15.280 for the right job

00:36:16.260 all that

00:36:16.840 all that sort of

00:36:18.100 the mindset of that

00:36:19.200 I've actually worked

00:36:20.120 as a bin man

00:36:20.700 really

00:36:21.400 have you

00:36:21.760 it was only for one day

00:36:23.140 but I was doing

00:36:24.620 some consulting

00:36:25.260 with a local government

00:36:26.500 and

00:36:27.280 there was an issue

00:36:28.520 that was

00:36:28.940 relating to

00:36:30.360 the operations

00:36:31.020 of the bin thing

00:36:31.740 and I said

00:36:32.400 okay well before

00:36:32.920 I get into the

00:36:33.500 business side of it

00:36:34.140 I want to spend

00:36:34.560 a day on the trucks

00:36:35.300 and actually

00:36:36.660 it's quite an

00:36:37.020 interesting job

00:36:37.600 because you've got

00:36:38.540 like a little team

00:36:39.240 of three guys

00:36:39.900 so there's good

00:36:40.360 banter

00:36:40.780 you move around

00:36:41.440 it's outdoors

00:36:42.060 it's active

00:36:42.860 it's probably not

00:36:44.240 the career I would

00:36:44.700 have chosen

00:36:45.100 but actually

00:36:46.720 I mean it's good

00:36:47.240 on its work

00:36:47.720 it's proper

00:36:48.200 proper good

00:36:48.720 on its work

00:36:49.260 it's important

00:36:50.700 yeah you're doing

00:36:51.780 an important role

00:36:52.800 to stave off

00:36:54.660 typhus

00:36:55.880 for God's sake

00:36:57.020 the BBC

00:36:58.620 interviewed this

00:36:59.280 one guy

00:36:59.720 Abu Shah

00:37:00.500 in the middle

00:37:02.000 of Birmingham

00:37:02.440 he said

00:37:02.980 people are leaving

00:37:03.620 their bins

00:37:04.100 anywhere and

00:37:04.740 everywhere

00:37:05.180 oh are they

00:37:06.420 they couldn't

00:37:07.560 possibly do

00:37:08.220 anything else

00:37:08.720 he literally

00:37:09.480 says

00:37:10.000 he literally

00:37:12.140 said that

00:37:12.560 I've got no

00:37:13.640 choice

00:37:13.960 there's no

00:37:14.320 other choice

00:37:14.960 but to just

00:37:16.100 leave your

00:37:16.500 rubbish on the

00:37:17.000 street

00:37:17.200 well there is

00:37:18.060 a choice

00:37:18.520 to have some

00:37:19.480 goddamn

00:37:19.900 self-respect

00:37:20.520 and take it

00:37:21.100 to a dump

00:37:21.460 yourself

00:37:21.760 or something

00:37:22.380 no just

00:37:22.980 leave it on

00:37:23.380 the street

00:37:23.640 until it

00:37:24.020 piles up

00:37:24.420 and it's

00:37:24.940 completely

00:37:25.340 alive

00:37:26.120 with rats

00:37:26.880 and then

00:37:27.380 disease

00:37:27.780 that's the

00:37:28.400 only

00:37:28.580 that's your

00:37:28.860 only option

00:37:29.320 is it

00:37:29.700 I don't

00:37:30.480 think so

00:37:31.080 I don't

00:37:32.080 think so

00:37:32.640 so am I

00:37:33.440 right in

00:37:33.740 saying that

00:37:34.160 the

00:37:34.780 is it

00:37:35.600 the union

00:37:36.200 have ordered

00:37:37.880 a strike

00:37:38.620 of some

00:37:39.160 sort

00:37:39.500 so this

00:37:39.920 is the

00:37:40.460 reason why

00:37:41.240 it's all

00:37:42.260 piling up

00:37:42.980 is that

00:37:43.480 correct

00:37:43.820 so the

00:37:44.420 people that

00:37:44.840 have run

00:37:45.380 Birmingham

00:37:45.820 City Council

00:37:46.640 for a long

00:37:47.400 time

00:37:47.760 have run

00:37:49.400 the budgets

00:37:49.880 into the

00:37:50.340 ground

00:37:50.520 have completely

00:37:51.060 mismanaged

00:37:51.840 their budgets

00:37:52.460 and haven't

00:37:52.800 got enough

00:37:53.100 money anymore

00:37:53.580 apparently they're

00:37:54.080 like in the

00:37:55.080 hole in the

00:37:56.280 in the red

00:37:56.920 to the tune

00:37:57.460 of 150 million

00:37:58.640 or something

00:37:59.060 so they're

00:37:59.700 trying to save

00:38:00.440 money by

00:38:01.260 paying bin men

00:38:03.040 less

00:38:03.420 their budget

00:38:04.200 their budget

00:38:05.100 would have

00:38:05.320 gone on

00:38:05.900 patronage

00:38:06.640 for people

00:38:07.520 that they

00:38:08.020 like for

00:38:08.740 one reason

00:38:09.180 or another

00:38:09.580 it's how it

00:38:10.640 always

00:38:10.840 or just

00:38:11.200 corruption

00:38:11.700 that's basically

00:38:13.220 exactly what I'm

00:38:13.880 saying

00:38:14.100 yeah

00:38:14.840 either way

00:38:16.320 they've

00:38:16.880 mismanaged it

00:38:17.660 to the tune

00:38:18.380 of millions

00:38:18.900 and millions

00:38:19.480 tens of

00:38:20.060 millions of

00:38:20.480 pounds

00:38:20.800 more than

00:38:21.920 100 million

00:38:22.360 pounds

00:38:22.680 and the weird

00:38:23.360 thing is with

00:38:23.700 local government

00:38:24.220 people would

00:38:25.060 rather chop

00:38:25.580 everything else

00:38:26.680 apart from the

00:38:27.560 bins

00:38:27.780 it's like the

00:38:28.300 one thing that

00:38:28.920 people actually

00:38:29.340 want and of

00:38:29.780 course that's

00:38:30.320 where they start

00:38:30.840 with their

00:38:31.100 cuts

00:38:31.360 well this is

00:38:33.060 the thing

00:38:33.400 when you

00:38:34.140 enter a new

00:38:34.860 city perhaps

00:38:35.380 a new

00:38:35.980 liberated city

00:38:36.960 in a war zone

00:38:37.640 or something

00:38:38.060 very very first

00:38:39.180 things you always

00:38:39.940 have to do

00:38:40.560 is sort of

00:38:41.960 manage the

00:38:42.820 dead bodies

00:38:43.380 because you

00:38:43.820 really will get

00:38:44.400 terrible diseases

00:38:45.780 then manage

00:38:46.320 the dead bodies

00:38:46.760 sort out the

00:38:47.500 water supply

00:38:48.100 clean water

00:38:48.620 supply and

00:38:49.500 clean up the

00:38:50.040 streets of

00:38:50.500 rubbish and

00:38:51.080 trash

00:38:51.360 that's like

00:38:52.260 101

00:38:52.760 that's like

00:38:54.120 you're not even

00:38:54.480 living in a

00:38:55.120 city if you're

00:38:56.720 not doing these

00:38:57.320 things

00:38:57.640 it's so

00:38:59.320 fundamental

00:38:59.880 and they're

00:39:00.340 failing

00:39:00.740 even at

00:39:01.240 that

00:39:01.940 rats are

00:39:03.520 slowly

00:39:03.720 getting into

00:39:05.260 them the

00:39:05.660 rubbish

00:39:06.100 piles

00:39:06.960 and opening

00:39:08.080 them up

00:39:09.160 you can see

00:39:09.880 nappies coming

00:39:10.540 out of the

00:39:10.840 bags

00:39:11.100 it's just

00:39:12.600 going to get

00:39:12.980 worse and

00:39:13.340 worse

00:39:13.560 someone needs

00:39:16.960 to do

00:39:17.240 something about

00:39:17.880 it and come

00:39:18.300 up with an

00:39:18.640 agreement

00:39:18.920 just someone

00:39:19.660 it's not

00:39:20.780 their

00:39:21.000 responsibility

00:39:21.440 it's not

00:39:21.740 the people

00:39:22.000 that actually

00:39:22.280 live there

00:39:22.540 apparently

00:39:22.900 but whatever

00:39:24.100 just someone

00:39:24.960 somewhere needs

00:39:25.600 to do

00:39:25.920 something

00:39:26.340 there's already

00:39:28.660 a rat

00:39:29.280 infestation

00:39:30.040 yeah it's

00:39:32.680 not good

00:39:33.180 there's

00:39:33.780 definitely

00:39:34.040 an infestation

00:39:34.760 in Birmingham

00:39:35.220 pest control

00:39:37.780 specialists have

00:39:38.400 seen a spike

00:39:38.940 in calls

00:39:39.520 since the

00:39:40.060 one day

00:39:40.900 walkout

00:39:41.420 started

00:39:42.060 when I look

00:39:43.820 at that

00:39:44.040 image

00:39:44.340 go to that

00:39:44.740 image just

00:39:45.420 below there

00:39:45.960 no below

00:39:46.440 if I was

00:39:47.880 living in that

00:39:48.440 house there

00:39:49.080 I'd be like

00:39:50.280 I would load

00:39:51.040 it all into

00:39:51.480 the back of

00:39:51.900 my car

00:39:52.280 and take it

00:39:52.800 down the tip

00:39:53.260 you'd do

00:39:53.640 something

00:39:54.000 you just

00:39:54.920 wouldn't live

00:39:55.400 like that

00:39:55.660 as well

00:39:56.060 you'd say

00:39:56.560 look

00:39:56.860 this is

00:39:57.460 getting a

00:39:57.760 bit much

00:39:58.200 should we

00:39:58.520 do something

00:39:59.180 about this

00:39:59.760 like a community

00:40:00.780 that would be

00:40:01.540 taken care of

00:40:02.340 in an afternoon

00:40:02.860 no problem

00:40:03.820 yeah

00:40:04.480 I hate it

00:40:05.580 even when

00:40:06.040 there's a bin

00:40:06.640 in someone's

00:40:07.400 kitchen

00:40:07.720 and it's

00:40:08.120 sort of

00:40:08.340 full up

00:40:08.700 and someone

00:40:09.460 just balances

00:40:10.520 something else

00:40:11.260 on top of it

00:40:11.880 I hate

00:40:12.420 yeah I know

00:40:13.580 I cringe at that

00:40:14.400 I hate even that

00:40:15.300 so that

00:40:15.760 I would not

00:40:16.420 tolerate that

00:40:16.940 if that was

00:40:17.240 outside my

00:40:17.700 house

00:40:17.960 I would spend

00:40:18.940 a bit of

00:40:19.320 my own

00:40:19.680 money and

00:40:20.040 time to

00:40:20.460 sort that

00:40:20.840 out

00:40:21.080 at least

00:40:22.100 okay so

00:40:24.420 they're just

00:40:24.700 talking about

00:40:25.200 how there

00:40:25.800 are rats

00:40:26.140 in front

00:40:26.560 and back

00:40:26.920 gardens

00:40:27.460 gaining

00:40:27.800 access

00:40:28.220 because of

00:40:28.680 the bins

00:40:29.040 being left

00:40:29.480 out

00:40:29.740 we're going

00:40:30.800 to be

00:40:31.020 inundated

00:40:31.560 with them

00:40:32.060 it's

00:40:33.100 unbelievable

00:40:33.600 yeah it is

00:40:36.620 a bit

00:40:36.800 unbelievable

00:40:37.200 yeah

00:40:37.580 oh gosh

00:40:38.520 holding up

00:40:39.060 wow that's

00:40:39.800 what's that

00:40:40.660 is that

00:40:41.100 a rat

00:40:42.340 that's a rat

00:40:43.660 yeah yeah

00:40:44.260 big ones

00:40:45.400 well fed

00:40:45.960 well fed

00:40:47.420 yeah like a

00:40:49.880 possum

00:40:50.280 rats the size

00:40:51.560 of a possum

00:40:52.140 just say it's

00:40:53.580 in the news

00:40:54.080 like Birmingham

00:40:54.560 reporting on

00:40:55.340 it the

00:40:56.120 strikes and

00:40:56.960 I think I

00:40:57.320 believe at the

00:40:57.700 moment the

00:40:58.460 line is anyway

00:40:59.320 that it's an

00:40:59.680 indefinite strike

00:41:00.680 indefinite

00:41:01.920 yeah yeah

00:41:02.940 yeah beginning

00:41:04.740 indefinite strike

00:41:05.560 that's real

00:41:06.460 strike action

00:41:07.120 that is

00:41:07.560 but it's like

00:41:09.320 you can't

00:41:10.080 treat us like

00:41:10.880 this

00:41:11.080 what does it

00:41:11.680 change because

00:41:12.340 you know nobody

00:41:13.600 wanted to go to

00:41:14.260 Birmingham in the

00:41:14.800 first place

00:41:15.300 yeah

00:41:15.940 yeah

00:41:17.000 but the thing

00:41:19.800 is even though

00:41:20.240 it's in the

00:41:20.540 news a little

00:41:21.020 bit about

00:41:21.540 Birmingham

00:41:22.980 specifically

00:41:23.720 actually it's

00:41:24.700 all over the

00:41:25.180 country

00:41:25.500 it's a lot of

00:41:26.580 places you go

00:41:27.120 a lot of

00:41:27.560 inner cities

00:41:28.260 that have

00:41:29.380 been colonised

00:41:31.740 by first and

00:41:33.640 second generation

00:41:34.500 immigrants

00:41:35.160 a lot of the

00:41:35.820 inner cities

00:41:36.300 it's the same

00:41:37.120 story

00:41:37.560 and all their

00:41:38.520 councillors are

00:41:39.320 labour

00:41:39.700 basically foreign

00:41:41.480 people

00:41:41.740 as you explain

00:41:42.600 with your

00:41:42.880 travels

00:41:43.300 in a lot of

00:41:44.360 part of the

00:41:44.760 world

00:41:45.000 south east

00:41:45.440 asia

00:41:45.700 it is

00:41:46.040 simply normal

00:41:47.080 to throw

00:41:47.540 rubbish on the

00:41:48.060 streets

00:41:48.400 or out your

00:41:48.940 car window

00:41:49.380 or whatever

00:41:49.840 it's just

00:41:50.460 how they live

00:41:51.220 there's the

00:41:53.940 old adage

00:41:54.620 isn't there

00:41:54.940 the old

00:41:55.160 cliche

00:41:55.440 that if you

00:41:55.920 import the

00:41:56.360 third world

00:41:56.760 you become

00:41:57.220 the third

00:41:57.700 world

00:41:58.020 it's actually

00:42:00.240 true

00:42:00.620 when you don't

00:42:02.880 ask people to

00:42:03.420 assimilate properly

00:42:04.160 to actually take

00:42:04.960 on our

00:42:05.920 values

00:42:06.620 I know that's a

00:42:07.380 hot topic about

00:42:07.920 values

00:42:08.300 but you know

00:42:08.840 just the very

00:42:09.400 concept that you

00:42:10.280 don't shit where

00:42:11.900 you eat

00:42:12.320 just that

00:42:14.280 can we ask you

00:42:15.340 not to pile up

00:42:16.100 trash outside your

00:42:16.880 own home

00:42:17.380 you're basically

00:42:18.860 asking for

00:42:19.380 civilization step

00:42:20.320 one

00:42:20.680 I mean anecdotal

00:42:22.560 everyone's most

00:42:23.260 people probably got

00:42:23.920 anecdotal evidence

00:42:24.800 I know for a fact

00:42:25.980 that a couple of

00:42:26.580 different places I've

00:42:27.240 lived once some

00:42:28.600 once some new

00:42:29.920 people should we

00:42:30.880 say moved in

00:42:32.020 they just

00:42:32.980 literally lived in a

00:42:34.300 block of flats

00:42:34.760 where they just

00:42:35.240 throw their rubbish

00:42:36.040 off their balcony

00:42:37.120 and it accumulates

00:42:39.780 at the bottom

00:42:40.340 underneath their

00:42:41.520 balcony

00:42:41.800 stuff stuff like

00:42:43.160 that crazy crazy

00:42:44.180 stuff

00:42:44.560 boils down to

00:42:45.180 respect doesn't

00:42:46.180 yeah well that's

00:42:46.720 the thing

00:42:47.140 don't have

00:42:47.780 respect for the

00:42:48.540 country

00:42:48.920 never had any

00:42:50.360 respect for it

00:42:51.140 so London for

00:42:52.180 example

00:42:52.580 same sort of

00:42:53.620 thing in London

00:42:54.180 this article is

00:42:55.900 actually a few

00:42:56.340 years old but

00:42:56.740 nothing's changed

00:42:57.500 a couple years

00:42:58.320 old but nothing's

00:42:58.940 changed

00:42:59.280 I remember

00:43:00.400 I remember

00:43:01.580 going that's

00:43:02.420 just you know

00:43:03.260 London right

00:43:03.780 yeah

00:43:04.400 that's just

00:43:05.440 normal

00:43:05.740 that's pretty

00:43:06.720 normal but

00:43:07.540 even though

00:43:08.080 it wasn't

00:43:09.080 normal when I

00:43:09.600 was living there

00:43:10.100 that was only

00:43:10.860 five or six

00:43:11.340 years ago

00:43:11.700 it wasn't

00:43:12.020 normal 10

00:43:12.540 years ago

00:43:12.960 15 years ago

00:43:13.700 absolutely not

00:43:14.560 but now yeah

00:43:16.020 that's just like

00:43:16.600 it's just normal

00:43:17.780 I don't know

00:43:18.520 where that is

00:43:18.960 but that could

00:43:19.380 easily be somewhere

00:43:20.020 like Whitechapel

00:43:20.600 or something

00:43:20.980 I remember

00:43:21.660 going on

00:43:22.160 Tower Hamlets

00:43:23.700 right

00:43:23.940 I remember

00:43:24.660 going on

00:43:25.120 a Jess Gill

00:43:25.980 Whitechapel

00:43:27.120 and again

00:43:27.480 Tower Hamlets

00:43:28.000 of the 1950s

00:43:29.100 you know

00:43:29.400 the local

00:43:29.960 community

00:43:30.460 would have

00:43:30.720 come out

00:43:31.020 and dealt

00:43:31.280 with that

00:43:31.500 in an

00:43:31.740 afternoon

00:43:32.100 yeah well

00:43:34.240 but there is

00:43:34.780 no community

00:43:35.380 anymore

00:43:35.800 well there is

00:43:36.540 a community

00:43:37.020 and they don't

00:43:38.340 respect

00:43:38.760 civilisation

00:43:39.820 sheer lying

00:43:41.160 about it as

00:43:41.820 well right

00:43:42.400 I went on

00:43:43.400 a Jess Gill

00:43:43.980 tweet

00:43:44.300 this is months

00:43:45.000 and months

00:43:45.400 ago

00:43:45.640 and she said

00:43:46.980 something about

00:43:47.620 this

00:43:48.120 saying that

00:43:48.940 I think it was

00:43:49.480 in Whitechapel

00:43:50.000 the market

00:43:50.540 at Whitechapel

00:43:51.340 or is it

00:43:52.780 yeah

00:43:53.160 something like

00:43:53.760 that

00:43:53.980 and it was

00:43:55.140 just these

00:43:55.560 types of

00:43:56.080 scenes

00:43:56.440 and

00:43:57.680 for the start

00:43:59.060 people saying

00:43:59.820 people saying

00:43:59.840 it's not

00:44:00.140 true

00:44:00.400 it's all

00:44:00.940 fake

00:44:01.160 you're like

00:44:01.420 well

00:44:01.620 here's the

00:44:02.520 images

00:44:02.800 these aren't

00:44:03.400 photoshopped

00:44:04.740 images

00:44:05.040 then they pivot

00:44:05.900 to oh it's

00:44:06.740 a market

00:44:07.140 after any

00:44:07.700 market day

00:44:08.300 there's

00:44:08.820 that sort

00:44:09.700 of refuge

00:44:10.280 you're like

00:44:10.760 well not really

00:44:11.660 I grew up in and

00:44:12.700 around Romford

00:44:13.160 I know markets

00:44:14.040 yeah not really

00:44:14.740 a bit

00:44:15.100 a few crates

00:44:15.860 for a few hours

00:44:16.500 after the market

00:44:17.060 but that's about it

00:44:17.760 but this is there

00:44:18.980 sort of permanently

00:44:19.700 semi-permanently

00:44:20.560 so that doesn't

00:44:21.480 hold up

00:44:21.840 and then it's just

00:44:22.440 you're racist

00:44:23.100 so it's like

00:44:24.080 it's not happening

00:44:24.780 it is but it's not

00:44:26.280 but you're

00:44:26.920 faking some of the

00:44:28.340 details and then

00:44:29.260 okay but you're

00:44:30.300 just racist

00:44:30.720 so it's just

00:44:32.360 nonsense

00:44:32.620 and again

00:44:33.640 it's not just

00:44:34.400 the mess

00:44:34.860 and the smell

00:44:35.460 this sort of thing

00:44:37.440 very quickly

00:44:37.940 becomes a matter

00:44:39.280 of public health

00:44:40.060 yeah issue

00:44:41.000 yeah it's

00:44:42.320 it's not something

00:44:43.060 to just

00:44:44.360 ignore

00:44:45.080 oh look at that

00:44:46.260 isn't that just

00:44:47.240 all over the place

00:44:48.360 yeah

00:44:48.660 all the big cities

00:44:49.960 in England

00:44:50.440 are like that

00:44:52.140 somewhere

00:44:52.580 somewhere or other

00:44:53.380 and it's like

00:44:54.240 this is new

00:44:55.120 this is new

00:44:57.000 it's depressing

00:44:58.540 isn't it

00:44:59.020 and so you would

00:45:00.140 think

00:45:00.340 well it's not

00:45:01.080 just England

00:45:01.640 I had a conversation

00:45:02.560 with Benjamin Boyce

00:45:03.200 the other day

00:45:03.480 and we talked

00:45:03.840 about this a little

00:45:04.360 bit and I said

00:45:04.780 well look at

00:45:05.440 San Francisco

00:45:06.180 or many cities

00:45:08.440 in the US

00:45:09.060 similar sort of thing

00:45:10.260 the US equivalent

00:45:12.160 of the council

00:45:13.220 or councillors

00:45:14.260 you think okay

00:45:15.060 well it's their

00:45:15.640 responsibility then

00:45:16.780 to spend a bit

00:45:18.420 more logistics

00:45:19.740 and money

00:45:20.400 to clear it up

00:45:21.280 well no

00:45:22.300 they're not prepared

00:45:23.160 to

00:45:23.340 they don't want

00:45:24.100 to they don't

00:45:24.420 care

00:45:24.720 you must

00:45:25.100 you must

00:45:26.040 prioritise

00:45:27.140 things such

00:45:28.240 as these

00:45:28.740 first over

00:45:29.520 anything else

00:45:30.380 really

00:45:30.820 to avoid

00:45:32.260 you know

00:45:33.480 a public

00:45:34.080 health crisis

00:45:35.220 oh gosh

00:45:37.460 it's depressing

00:45:39.480 it is isn't it

00:45:40.940 it's so depressing

00:45:41.860 really depressing

00:45:42.680 isn't that

00:45:45.400 just normal

00:45:45.900 now

00:45:46.540 yeah unfortunately

00:45:47.500 I hate to say it

00:45:49.100 endless

00:45:51.760 so okay

00:45:54.920 it compares so

00:45:56.280 well to those

00:45:56.900 oh my gosh

00:45:57.680 what's

00:45:58.100 top right

00:45:58.860 London rubbish

00:45:59.800 and it's like

00:46:00.300 just to make

00:46:00.980 this point

00:46:01.400 it's not just

00:46:02.160 like the odd

00:46:02.820 picture that we

00:46:03.500 found over the

00:46:04.160 last few years

00:46:04.840 this is like

00:46:05.400 I think that's

00:46:07.780 a shop

00:46:08.200 I'm pretty sure

00:46:09.080 that's a photoshop

00:46:09.820 might not

00:46:10.440 surely

00:46:10.800 but um

00:46:11.740 but no

00:46:12.460 something like

00:46:12.960 this

00:46:13.480 yeah

00:46:14.620 that's

00:46:15.160 or that

00:46:15.580 just completely

00:46:16.080 normal

00:46:16.260 and it's not

00:46:17.020 that um

00:46:17.700 these are just

00:46:18.320 the exceptions

00:46:18.800 to the rule

00:46:19.420 I've typed in

00:46:20.240 London rubbish

00:46:21.120 and sure you can

00:46:22.140 find images of

00:46:23.000 like no

00:46:23.760 believe us

00:46:24.960 that is just

00:46:26.440 the norm

00:46:27.280 all over

00:46:28.820 certain parts

00:46:29.780 of London

00:46:30.220 you ever do

00:46:30.720 that thing

00:46:31.060 where you go

00:46:31.500 and watch

00:46:32.000 footage of

00:46:32.720 London in

00:46:33.080 the 1950s

00:46:33.960 yeah

00:46:34.520 just look at

00:46:35.220 it and think

00:46:35.780 something has

00:46:37.580 been lost

00:46:38.020 oh absolutely

00:46:38.920 the thing is

00:46:39.660 you don't even

00:46:40.040 have to go back

00:46:40.580 to the 50s

00:46:41.220 you can go back

00:46:41.680 to the 80s

00:46:42.420 you can go back

00:46:42.940 to 2002

00:46:43.800 yes

00:46:45.000 right

00:46:45.340 it's not that

00:46:46.420 long ago

00:46:46.760 in fact I saw

00:46:47.280 a side-by-side

00:46:47.880 thing the other

00:46:48.380 day and it was

00:46:48.800 Chinatown

00:46:49.400 you know just

00:46:50.740 off Soho

00:46:51.420 just north of

00:46:52.240 um

00:46:52.660 of uh

00:46:54.100 Piccadilly

00:46:54.540 Leicester Square

00:46:55.720 sorry

00:46:56.000 uh yeah

00:46:57.000 and there's like

00:46:57.460 an image I think

00:46:58.100 it was like 2004

00:46:58.940 2005

00:46:59.620 and then it's

00:47:00.380 2025

00:47:00.760 and one was

00:47:02.060 normal nice

00:47:02.840 clean

00:47:03.340 tidy the way it

00:47:04.280 always used to be

00:47:04.820 and the other one

00:47:05.360 just looked like

00:47:05.960 uh

00:47:06.200 I feel bad

00:47:06.640 sort of open tip

00:47:07.540 I feel bad for the

00:47:08.340 zoomers because

00:47:08.800 they just missed

00:47:09.680 seeing what

00:47:10.120 civilization looks

00:47:10.940 like

00:47:11.640 in fact I've

00:47:12.240 often maintained

00:47:12.740 the view that

00:47:13.440 um

00:47:14.160 when the 2008

00:47:15.780 London Olympics

00:47:16.800 closed we should

00:47:17.820 have just closed

00:47:18.300 the whole of

00:47:18.680 London at the

00:47:19.120 same time

00:47:19.580 I just said

00:47:20.060 right we're

00:47:20.500 done we're

00:47:21.020 packing it up

00:47:21.680 we're yeah

00:47:22.360 yeah it's a

00:47:24.980 crying shame

00:47:25.460 really but

00:47:25.900 nothing that

00:47:26.460 can't be

00:47:26.780 reversed

00:47:27.280 the right

00:47:28.920 leadership

00:47:29.280 political will

00:47:29.980 um

00:47:30.700 oh gosh

00:47:32.520 so like

00:47:32.860 this is

00:47:33.260 this is

00:47:34.120 in India

00:47:34.700 um

00:47:36.160 it's sort

00:47:36.780 of unbelievable

00:47:37.460 isn't it

00:47:38.020 so for those

00:47:39.140 who are

00:47:39.440 listening

00:47:39.860 um

00:47:40.540 Bo is

00:47:41.240 playing us

00:47:41.960 a literal

00:47:42.840 river of

00:47:44.600 garbage

00:47:45.020 as best I

00:47:45.520 can

00:47:45.620 I mean I

00:47:45.940 can't actually

00:47:46.300 see any

00:47:46.680 water but

00:47:47.120 I think

00:47:47.440 there is

00:47:47.780 I think

00:47:48.240 there is

00:47:48.500 a river

00:47:48.800 under

00:47:49.120 once a

00:47:49.680 river

00:47:49.900 yeah

00:47:50.240 again you

00:47:51.620 think oh

00:47:52.000 well this

00:47:52.280 is an

00:47:52.520 exception

00:47:52.820 it's just

00:47:53.160 a particularly

00:47:53.600 bad case

00:47:54.320 it can't

00:47:54.960 be like that

00:47:55.420 all over

00:47:55.880 India

00:47:56.260 no no

00:47:57.040 we've been

00:47:57.820 to India

00:47:58.140 it is

00:47:58.580 yeah

00:47:59.340 the closest

00:48:00.440 I've been

00:48:00.720 is Nepal

00:48:01.320 and it's

00:48:03.280 well it's

00:48:03.720 quite similar

00:48:04.500 I must say

00:48:05.500 yeah

00:48:06.520 in Kathmandu

00:48:07.420 anyway

00:48:07.900 yeah

00:48:08.980 do you think

00:48:10.220 like Nepal

00:48:10.860 some sort of

00:48:11.400 pristine

00:48:11.680 very not that

00:48:12.700 long ago

00:48:12.960 used to be

00:48:13.220 some sort of

00:48:13.620 pristine

00:48:14.180 mountain

00:48:15.380 paradise

00:48:15.880 and now

00:48:16.480 Kathmandu

00:48:17.100 is just

00:48:17.520 a dive

00:48:18.640 yeah

00:48:19.440 it was

00:48:20.260 yeah

00:48:21.120 yeah

00:48:22.580 um

00:48:23.420 oh gosh

00:48:24.880 just uh

00:48:25.720 yeah

00:48:26.040 it's the

00:48:27.880 culture

00:48:28.280 isn't it

00:48:28.640 it's a

00:48:28.860 culture

00:48:29.260 of

00:48:30.420 filth

00:48:31.800 essentially

00:48:33.240 yeah

00:48:34.420 um

00:48:35.040 just

00:48:35.420 not doing

00:48:36.700 the correct

00:48:37.380 thing

00:48:37.800 like you

00:48:38.520 know

00:48:38.760 have you

00:48:39.060 ever been

00:48:39.320 have you

00:48:39.460 ever noticed

00:48:39.820 this I

00:48:40.100 think I've

00:48:40.340 talked about

00:48:40.620 this before

00:48:41.040 um

00:48:41.940 when you go

00:48:42.460 to a foreign

00:48:42.860 country and

00:48:43.520 you look up

00:48:44.020 at how

00:48:44.400 they've done

00:48:45.200 their telephone

00:48:45.820 lines

00:48:46.600 telephone wires

00:48:47.740 and power

00:48:48.740 wires

00:48:49.280 right and

00:48:50.400 you go to

00:48:50.720 somewhere

00:48:50.980 like

00:48:51.700 uh

00:48:52.680 Britain

00:48:53.140 Australia

00:48:53.720 Canada

00:48:54.180 United States

00:48:55.100 even France

00:48:56.080 usually

00:48:56.460 and it's

00:48:57.680 all squared

00:48:58.040 away nice

00:48:58.500 and neat

00:48:58.860 everything's got

00:48:59.980 everything's done

00:49:00.620 correctly

00:49:01.040 and you go to

00:49:02.140 somewhere like

00:49:02.560 Spain or even

00:49:03.700 Italy southern

00:49:04.520 Italy and it's

00:49:05.160 all a bit

00:49:05.640 slapdash and a

00:49:07.180 bit thrown

00:49:07.460 together and

00:49:08.620 then um

00:49:09.100 you go to

00:49:10.060 somewhere like

00:49:10.700 Thailand or

00:49:13.360 India and it's

00:49:14.480 a complete insane

00:49:15.740 mess

00:49:16.220 insane mess of

00:49:18.040 nonsense going on

00:49:19.040 with their telephone

00:49:19.620 lines and power

00:49:20.160 lines I mean I

00:49:20.840 met a guy not so

00:49:21.660 long ago um

00:49:22.860 who a few years

00:49:24.020 ago his 20

00:49:24.520 year old son

00:49:25.000 was killed on a

00:49:25.640 trip to India

00:49:26.260 uh simply because

00:49:27.720 a live wire just

00:49:29.120 fell off one of

00:49:29.780 the poles

00:49:30.260 swung across

00:49:31.620 hit him

00:49:32.080 electrocuted him

00:49:33.480 because it just

00:49:34.560 been so

00:49:34.880 slapdash done

00:49:35.620 I want I

00:49:37.500 once worked with

00:49:38.120 and knew someone

00:49:38.600 a lovely woman

00:49:39.440 she was absolutely

00:49:40.300 lovely woman so

00:49:41.060 lovely that she

00:49:41.800 decided to

00:49:42.580 dedicate her

00:49:43.600 summer to

00:49:44.660 just helping

00:49:45.660 out in India

00:49:46.440 being and

00:49:48.300 how did that

00:49:48.880 go she got

00:49:49.440 dysentery and

00:49:50.120 died

00:49:50.380 right

00:49:51.260 yeah

00:49:52.860 where'd you get

00:49:54.040 dysentery

00:49:54.760 shouldn't have

00:49:55.400 dysentery

00:49:56.040 it's because it's

00:49:57.740 filthy

00:49:58.180 because it's

00:49:59.580 filthy

00:49:59.860 okay and that's

00:50:01.520 what we're getting

00:50:02.000 here now and

00:50:02.960 there's this old

00:50:03.760 saying that oh

00:50:04.300 you just don't

00:50:04.900 want to you're

00:50:05.520 just a racist

00:50:06.160 you're just a

00:50:06.760 bigot you just

00:50:07.300 don't want to you

00:50:08.160 just can't stand

00:50:08.860 living near brown

00:50:09.620 people some some

00:50:11.120 nonsense like that

00:50:11.900 no I don't want I

00:50:13.880 don't want dysentery

00:50:14.740 and cholera to be

00:50:15.800 normalized I

00:50:16.960 don't want giant

00:50:17.520 mountains of trash

00:50:18.820 also there's

00:50:19.340 actually nothing

00:50:19.920 there's nothing

00:50:20.440 wrong with wanting

00:50:21.180 to live in a

00:50:22.140 in a homogeneous

00:50:23.040 british society

00:50:23.940 either right yeah

00:50:24.940 no absolutely fair

00:50:25.620 point yeah yeah

00:50:27.260 in and of itself

00:50:28.160 right so this

00:50:30.180 also you've just

00:50:30.540 got to live with

00:50:31.120 it now this is

00:50:32.260 just how modern

00:50:33.240 britain is it's

00:50:35.680 just disgusting and

00:50:37.060 smelly and riddled

00:50:37.820 with rats and

00:50:38.540 disease and don't

00:50:41.000 notice it certainly

00:50:42.200 don't notice it and

00:50:42.800 if you do keep your

00:50:44.120 mouth shut don't talk

00:50:46.060 about it certainly

00:50:47.240 not on camera on the

00:50:48.220 internet that would

00:50:48.860 be beyond the pale

00:50:49.620 that would be

00:50:50.820 something that hope

00:50:51.860 not hate would

00:50:52.540 would probably moan

00:50:53.880 about or whatever

00:50:54.640 oh I see what the

00:50:55.860 segment is now

00:50:56.500 you're just trying to

00:50:57.340 get a page in the

00:50:58.360 next hope not hate

00:50:59.060 report oh I'm

00:51:00.800 gonna up the ante

00:51:01.460 my next segment I

00:51:02.560 because I want a

00:51:03.260 page in the hope not

00:51:03.920 hate report I think

00:51:05.780 I think I'm firmly on

00:51:08.880 their radar already to

00:51:09.980 be perfectly honest

00:51:10.800 right it's it's on

00:51:11.920 you and I we've got a

00:51:13.440 year to get to see

00:51:14.940 which of us can get a

00:51:15.740 full page spread in

00:51:16.500 hope not hate report

00:51:17.180 it's on okay challenge

00:51:21.360 accepted um no so the

00:51:24.800 thing is I suppose to

00:51:26.000 the takeaway on this is

00:51:27.360 that we are descending

00:51:28.660 in on every level yep

00:51:31.860 into all the problems

00:51:34.500 that plague the third

00:51:35.760 world including plague

00:51:36.760 and it won't be all that

00:51:39.300 long if it keeps going on

00:51:40.840 before we do have a

00:51:42.940 serious serious public

00:51:44.820 health issues because of

00:51:47.080 this it's not just being

00:51:49.320 a bit miffed that there's

00:51:51.080 loads of bin bags at the

00:51:52.280 end of the street it's

00:51:53.120 it's more important it's

00:51:54.040 bigger than that no we

00:51:55.200 just like to see basic

00:51:56.120 civilizational standards

00:51:57.260 basic 101 stuff yeah

00:51:59.120 right if you want to do

00:52:02.380 some of those comments I

00:52:03.280 am going to curse the

00:52:05.560 allergy gods again okay

00:52:07.120 let's see what have we got

00:52:10.140 here all these for me all

00:52:13.140 right then so bald eagles

00:52:14.700 sorry

00:52:16.240 no we've got to read them

00:52:19.200 all uh bald eagle 1787

00:52:21.140 said at this point that the

00:52:22.780 dark lord Sauron is more

00:52:27.200 reliable and believable than

00:52:28.540 Farage at least the dark

00:52:30.000 lord follows through on what

00:52:31.060 he says he's going to do

00:52:31.980 fair point

00:52:33.040 is that Tony Blair

00:52:34.280 uh yeah

00:52:35.360 uh binary surfer says

00:52:37.620 most local councils are

00:52:39.140 screwed financially likely to

00:52:40.840 be 25 percent what's why

00:52:42.920 oh why council tax oh year

00:52:44.760 on year council tax rises in

00:52:46.940 many areas from next year on

00:52:48.440 yeah I particularly despise

00:52:50.900 paying council tax

00:52:51.980 um you know I pay obviously

00:52:58.380 all all my debts all my all

00:53:01.200 my taxes everything it's

00:53:03.000 annoying when your energy

00:53:03.920 bill keeps going up and up

00:53:04.900 and up but the one I

00:53:05.740 particularly resent is

00:53:07.820 council tax one that it's

00:53:09.600 so higher two that you

00:53:11.100 don't get anything for it

00:53:12.060 and three that they keep

00:53:12.960 ramping up massively yeah

00:53:14.620 like a 25 percent increase

00:53:15.860 I think I think Swindon

00:53:17.520 council are going to do

00:53:18.420 something in that order I

00:53:19.260 think I got an email the

00:53:19.980 other day saying remember

00:53:21.540 there's going to be 20 25

00:53:22.780 percent something in that

00:53:23.480 order increase 25 percent

00:53:25.840 something like that I can't

00:53:26.780 remember the number but it's

00:53:27.500 in that ballpark it wasn't

00:53:28.400 just like two percent it's

00:53:29.840 like for what for no

00:53:31.180 police is that is that

00:53:32.800 one painful oh it will be

00:53:34.320 going on um uh adult

00:53:37.640 welfare payments so

00:53:38.680 basically single moms

00:53:39.460 that's what it will be

00:53:40.340 going on and housing all

00:53:42.940 the the first the first

00:53:44.780 generation sub-saharan

00:53:46.000 africans that have flooded

00:53:47.180 the town yep weirdly why

00:53:50.200 is it why are they why is

00:53:51.040 there a permagang of

00:53:52.080 sub-saharan africans in

00:53:53.180 the middle of Swindon

00:53:53.820 what's that about uh boys

00:53:56.600 don't don't seem to work

00:53:57.880 you don't seem to have any

00:53:58.620 jobs because they're there

00:53:59.900 at all times of the day

00:54:00.940 oh yeah they're clearly

00:54:02.120 not working just milling

00:54:03.840 around don't notice that

00:54:05.660 don't mention that

00:54:06.520 okay

00:54:08.900 better not

00:54:09.520 white rider says imagine

00:54:11.780 rupert goes to his uh goes

00:54:13.320 his own way with his own

00:54:14.600 party but with elon's money

00:54:16.280 and the people too based for

00:54:17.700 reform

00:54:18.080 i becomes minister for

00:54:20.060 safeguarding culture and

00:54:21.200 deportations i'll take that

00:54:22.800 i'll take that i'll be that

00:54:26.900 that would be good a new

00:54:27.860 department for remigration

00:54:29.180 yeah yeah every day just

00:54:31.540 come into the office slap

00:54:32.400 the table and say those are

00:54:33.260 rookie numbers i can do it

00:54:34.580 yeah i can do a home man on

00:54:37.420 on the department for real

00:54:38.920 okay um what's that the

00:54:43.940 the habis faction says it's

00:54:48.040 becoming the 1970s britain all

00:54:49.760 over again the rubbish is

00:54:51.040 piling up and it's only a

00:54:52.080 matter of time before we start

00:54:53.780 getting brownouts and blackouts

00:54:55.060 again it's like the 1970s

00:54:56.380 actually that's that is a

00:54:57.460 good point in the 70s

00:54:58.760 briefly there were all sorts

00:55:00.780 of problems weren't there

00:55:01.720 with power even as well as

00:55:04.520 rubbish collection and all

00:55:06.500 sorts of things but that was

00:55:07.380 a specific sort of economic

00:55:08.840 downturn this wasn't because

00:55:10.820 we'd been flooded by millions

00:55:13.000 of people who aren't

00:55:15.200 particularly interested in the

00:55:16.200 seeds of it was starting to

00:55:17.300 happen then but it it wasn't

00:55:18.960 full-fledged and it was

00:55:20.140 easily reversed right it

00:55:22.500 wasn't like some well it's

00:55:23.620 still it's still easily

00:55:24.560 reversible today with a bit

00:55:26.020 of political will

00:55:26.760 ramshackle water says in a

00:55:29.380 sick inner city terraced

00:55:30.440 houses used to smell of

00:55:32.300 uh carbolic soap the front

00:55:34.660 step would be scrubbed so

00:55:35.760 clean you could eat your dinner

00:55:36.780 off of it

00:55:37.200 yeah yeah that used to be a

00:55:40.040 bit of a cliche didn't it

00:55:40.860 like a um extremely fastidious

00:55:44.480 housewives scrubbing the front

00:55:46.460 step that was a cliche

00:55:47.960 like ironing your tea towels

00:55:51.260 yeah yeah yeah when we had

00:55:54.160 standards as a nation okay

00:55:56.640 drt is king said got the copy

00:55:59.960 of islander 3 before my issue

00:56:01.560 of islander 2 love you guys

00:56:04.240 from chilly florida yeah sorry

00:56:05.740 about the islander 2 thing but

00:56:07.320 we've sorted all that out now

00:56:08.540 hopefully yeah i i think the

00:56:10.760 islander 2 we we are assured

00:56:12.440 that they are still going

00:56:13.680 through they're just what a

00:56:15.160 debacle yeah what a debacle

00:56:17.260 all right right before we

00:56:19.760 begin um i've just realized

00:56:21.500 instead of i'm so sorry

00:56:23.120 samson instead of this

00:56:24.400 particular article uh can we

00:56:26.760 use uh the bbc's posting of

00:56:29.540 this article on twitter it's

00:56:31.120 exactly the same um it should

00:56:33.840 be might take him a while to

00:56:35.980 find it yeah okay no problem

00:56:37.320 uh but we could do like a brief

00:56:39.160 opening but um all right so

00:56:41.140 this segment is not going to be

00:56:44.140 on the tube for obvious reasons

00:56:46.560 because of the spicy contents uh

00:56:49.920 of speaking about covid and that

00:56:51.900 particular era i like it already

00:56:53.560 so the bbc recently posted a

00:56:59.060 article that they've written on

00:57:01.100 twitter this one saying share your

00:57:05.040 memories of lockdown as uk set to

00:57:08.280 mark covid a day of reflection

00:57:10.340 i i reflect on the madness of

00:57:14.380 covid every day indeed indeed um

00:57:17.460 so and this backfired on on the

00:57:20.760 bbc whilst posting that um so i

00:57:24.700 thought we would do our reflection uh

00:57:28.260 on this era and remember kind of

00:57:32.320 the madness that ensued during that

00:57:34.480 time and the after effects of not

00:57:38.540 only government manipulation but

00:57:40.660 also

00:57:41.220 disastrous policies that have echoed

00:57:46.400 even now and still yet to echo um

00:57:50.840 not just in britain but throughout the

00:57:52.540 world but we're going to focus mainly

00:57:54.220 on britain because this is bbc uk um

00:57:57.900 so i thought we would basically have an

00:58:00.640 open conversation and then just go

00:58:02.240 through

00:58:02.680 uh some of the stuff okay my main

00:58:05.480 reflection on covid is that every day

00:58:07.640 since i have wanted every politician

00:58:09.480 involved every public health minister

00:58:11.140 every journalist who pushed that

00:58:13.100 madness i want them um imprisoned and

00:58:16.380 i'm saying in prison because i can't

00:58:17.740 say put up a wall against a wall and

00:58:19.420 shot because it was it was insane

00:58:22.700 absolutely insane it is the most

00:58:25.180 offensive egregious um you know

00:58:28.300 peacetime atrocity that governments have

00:58:30.140 ever committed it was utterly bloody

00:58:32.760 mental they sort of locked us away and

00:58:34.460 engaged in this psychological warfare

00:58:36.180 they turn people against other people

00:58:38.500 you know you go down to the shops and

00:58:40.940 you'd have to have three i mean i

00:58:41.900 didn't mind because i quite like

00:58:42.820 arguments we'd have to have three

00:58:43.920 arguments with people as to why you

00:58:45.120 weren't wearing a bloody mask or

00:58:46.520 something or going the right way

00:58:48.600 around with the sodding arrows or

00:58:49.960 something i hated it it drove me mad

00:58:52.600 emily i thought i had a strong mental

00:58:54.960 constitution but two years of being

00:58:57.340 shut away and bombarded with that crap

00:58:59.660 for two years i mean it just it really

00:59:02.160 pushed me to the edge so uh all in all

00:59:05.240 i don't remember it fondly yeah i

00:59:08.140 remember being put under house arrest

00:59:10.120 essentially yeah i remember having to

00:59:14.220 queue up for a one-in-one-out at tesco's

00:59:16.620 i remember that i remember the queen

00:59:18.880 having to sit alone at the funeral of

00:59:20.980 the duke of edinburgh yeah i remember

00:59:22.920 being told that i'd quite possibly have to

00:59:25.520 get a vaccine in order to get on a train

00:59:27.560 yeah i remember being put under house

00:59:30.100 arrest for on the strength of a liar i

00:59:32.460 remember nana akuna advocating for

00:59:35.560 forced vaccines coming around your

00:59:37.780 house coming into your home pinning you

00:59:40.480 down and forcing you to take the vaccine

00:59:42.120 yeah i remember that yeah yeah i remember

00:59:45.020 our economy being absolutely tanked i

00:59:47.920 remember being told that the hospitals

00:59:49.300 were flooded and then physically going

00:59:51.240 there and finding it a ghost ship i

00:59:55.420 remember that i remember the

00:59:57.080 unbelievable liars you know and i

01:00:00.120 shan't forget no no i remember being

01:00:02.960 told you're now under a type of house

01:00:04.480 arrest

01:00:04.880 so if you remember or have a reflection

01:00:10.040 uh on a particular thing that happened

01:00:12.460 send in a super chat if you would like

01:00:15.380 and um well we can read them out after

01:00:18.240 the the segment um if there's any

01:00:21.120 particularly good ones i'll read them out

01:00:22.220 as we go

01:00:22.620 absolutely yeah

01:00:23.740 um but here's here's one well i decided

01:00:27.980 to post uh this um just a brief list

01:00:32.960 um and you know it got some traction

01:00:37.640 um because i think it's still so raw in a

01:00:42.120 lot of people's minds because it was only

01:00:43.780 well i say five years ago is quite a long

01:00:46.040 time

01:00:46.420 really half a decade 15 years time i'm still

01:00:49.360 going to remember it absolutely um and

01:00:52.380 what this was all off the top of my head i

01:00:55.580 was about to

01:00:56.160 get on a train uh well a significant portion

01:00:59.840 of the population was treated like second

01:01:02.080 class citizens over a medical choice that

01:01:04.460 first came to mind the entire country was

01:01:07.720 bombarded with military grade psychological

01:01:10.720 operations to push a single narrative don't

01:01:14.120 question it if you question it you're a

01:01:16.500 conspiracy theorist you're a granny killer

01:01:19.380 yeah quite do you remember that yeah you're

01:01:21.220 a granny killer it's unsafe you what you

01:01:23.560 want the old people to die yeah is that

01:01:25.340 what you want awful um what journalists

01:01:29.100 being spied on by the state for expressing

01:01:31.700 anti-lockdown views which we'll get into

01:01:33.860 um dismissed as a conspiracy theorist again

01:01:37.920 for suggesting a link between the mrna

01:01:41.280 vaccines and increased risks of heart

01:01:44.280 attacks strokes and cancers and are now

01:01:46.840 being openly discussed well i remember

01:01:49.640 being called a conspiracy theorist for

01:01:51.340 reminding people what the government said

01:01:52.800 three weeks earlier

01:01:53.560 hmm yeah bridgen was good on this wasn't

01:01:57.040 he very good

01:01:57.660 he was very very very very good and do

01:02:00.220 you remember at one point those who

01:02:02.680 refused the vaccines were banned from

01:02:04.400 restaurants pubs and public places you

01:02:07.600 had to walk in a certain way you had to

01:02:10.000 have a mask on to arrive into your into

01:02:12.480 the restaurant or establishment when you

01:02:14.540 sat down you can take it off and eat

01:02:15.940 oh if you need the toilet though you have

01:02:18.000 to put it back on then walk i mean i

01:02:20.220 remember going to a pub and they said if

01:02:22.020 when you go sit at your table you can

01:02:23.460 have your mask off when you come to the

01:02:24.860 bar to order anything else you have to

01:02:26.180 put your mask on it's like i said to her

01:02:27.700 that's nonsense though isn't it and the

01:02:29.560 shock on her like what what how is it

01:02:31.880 what um i mean i remember this is a

01:02:35.740 recollection that in france they'd made

01:02:38.340 it so that you couldn't get on the train

01:02:39.880 without showing your passport your

01:02:41.680 vaccine passport you couldn't they that's

01:02:43.700 what they did in france yes and they were

01:02:45.120 gonna bring it in it was over the

01:02:46.340 christmas time just before it all ended

01:02:47.860 they were gonna bring that in in england

01:02:49.840 and i was going back and forth on the

01:02:51.400 train all the time at that point and i'd

01:02:53.720 made my mind up long ago two years before

01:02:55.560 that that there's no way i'm having that

01:02:57.640 vaccine you're gonna have to get two or

01:02:59.380 three guys to pin me to a gurney before

01:03:01.780 i'm letting that in my body so there's no

01:03:03.180 way so i started to think right what am i

01:03:05.820 going to do how am i going to get out of

01:03:07.660 this bind and then the whole narrative

01:03:10.220 collapsed and they stopped saying you

01:03:11.700 need to wear masks or have any vaccine

01:03:13.480 or anything to sort of all collapse very

01:03:15.120 very quickly do you remember that i tell

01:03:17.080 you i'll tell you what this crushed for

01:03:18.400 me the most it's my view of the normies

01:03:21.900 because i remember when this all started

01:03:24.400 i was looking at it and thinking yeah

01:03:26.180 this this won't last three months because

01:03:28.740 people will see through how ridiculous it

01:03:30.460 is it then went on for two years and and i

01:03:33.420 was like how the hell are the normies

01:03:35.640 still believing this it was obvious from

01:03:38.660 the start that it was complete and utter

01:03:40.560 nonsense and and it just it fundamentally

01:03:43.320 lowered my opinion of my fellow human

01:03:46.120 being but that they were duped so easily

01:03:49.180 for so long the number of karens that

01:03:51.160 will scoff at you or even tick you off or

01:03:52.780 certainly give you a death stare for sort

01:03:54.180 of wearing your mask clapping on his on

01:03:56.860 his on the thursdays or whatever it was on

01:03:58.980 the wednesdays he's not out with his pots

01:04:00.760 and pans oh he's a granny killer he's this

01:04:03.920 he's that quote-unquote awful sad stuff but

01:04:07.220 there were some other things that people

01:04:08.800 remembered uh during the lockdown here we

01:04:11.520 couldn't even mourn loved ones properly

01:04:13.180 um we don't have to play with sound uh for

01:04:16.940 this particular yeah um one but remembered

01:04:21.260 being i mean you can see it there um just

01:04:25.440 being sat apart and if you even i think this

01:04:28.340 is the video um where someone go yeah goes

01:04:33.580 to comfort someone because clearly they're

01:04:35.560 distressed it's a funeral and to to give

01:04:38.200 them and then people were like started

01:04:41.000 doing it oh no you're straying away from

01:04:43.980 the rules how dare you and people started

01:04:47.200 doing it no no no stop that no can't be

01:04:49.960 doing that disgusting thing that pathetic

01:04:52.700 little man there yeah yeah the thing is this

01:04:55.220 this is a famous example because it was caught

01:04:56.900 on camera yeah there were also instances

01:04:59.480 of um basically children dying in hospital

01:05:02.500 yes and they couldn't have their parents

01:05:04.100 with them yeah and staff that the the small

01:05:07.860 minded twatty little normies working in

01:05:10.960 those hospitals would stop the parents from

01:05:13.700 going in to be with their dying child on

01:05:15.940 their care homes care homes as well i mean

01:05:18.220 it just normies hate them remember the image

01:05:22.060 of the queen sitting in this rabbi prince

01:05:24.600 philip's funeral she was sort of all alone

01:05:26.720 there yeah it was horrible so even the

01:05:29.820 monarch even the sovereign wasn't immune to

01:05:32.320 the to the narrative um yeah i mean i made a

01:05:37.820 small two two or three sort of um protests

01:05:42.220 against it for example there was even the

01:05:45.400 people that control this building at the

01:05:47.400 time they want you to wear your mask and

01:05:49.720 quite often i'd wear it below my nose

01:05:52.380 and i was i never told

01:05:55.640 again it was nonsense once you're in an

01:05:58.300 office you don't have to wear it but when

01:05:59.760 you're in the communal uh lift or the

01:06:02.340 corridor you're supposed to wear it

01:06:03.640 and i was sort of some sort of pressure was

01:06:05.840 put on me to try and do that and i just

01:06:07.460 ignored it i just ignored it or had stiff

01:06:09.860 words with the chap actually or i got sick of

01:06:12.500 the one-in-one-out light system in the

01:06:14.640 tescos in the end i'd ignore it and just

01:06:16.840 walk in and yeah the security guard or a

01:06:19.560 few people in the queue would talk or say

01:06:21.240 something like you know who do you think

01:06:22.820 you are you think all that just ignore it

01:06:24.460 just ignoring it no no i'm gonna i'm gonna

01:06:26.580 walk in this 90 empty tescos and start

01:06:31.160 buying whatever i want thanks you know i'm

01:06:33.160 just gonna ignore this nonsense this

01:06:35.780 pressure you're trying to put on us over

01:06:37.940 nothing that's how we have to do it again

01:06:39.620 if it comes to it so here's a couple of

01:06:43.740 examples of some of the um well then i would

01:06:47.680 call it military grade propaganda you know

01:06:50.760 um look him in the eyes and tell him you

01:06:54.260 really can't work from home uh look her in

01:06:57.520 the eyes and tell her your face covering

01:06:59.340 covers your nose and mouth um when it came

01:07:04.240 out even on mainstream media at the time i

01:07:07.080 forgot his name that particular doctor

01:07:09.160 hillary was it dr hillary or something

01:07:12.000 who said about masks immediately like the

01:07:15.180 first thing he said was well um the masks

01:07:18.120 have have uh holes that are big enough for

01:07:21.700 particles to even travel through anyway so

01:07:23.960 there's no point and then he had to reverse

01:07:25.860 what he was saying and started shilling it

01:07:28.400 again like a day after but people remember

01:07:31.140 that um and i i actually had a relative who

01:07:34.820 had been a doctor and i i remember them

01:07:38.100 saying to me the reason they wore masks and

01:07:40.140 surgeries because if they cough or something

01:07:41.800 or there's any sort of um you know sneeze

01:07:44.480 anything like that is to stop basically large

01:07:47.340 particulates of fluid getting from the

01:07:49.360 doctor into the wound and i remember them

01:07:51.480 saying to me and when covid started i i said

01:07:53.840 to them you remember what you said to me

01:07:55.520 about a year or so ago about that and and

01:07:57.760 they just basically flipped on it it's like uh and

01:07:59.480 they they had to do mental gymnastics it's

01:08:03.340 like i don't know the mask thing was always

01:08:06.040 complete nonsense from start people seem to

01:08:08.060 confuse whether it's about that you're ill

01:08:11.000 when you're going to give it to other people

01:08:12.280 or the other way around of course it's it's

01:08:15.800 the first one it's not about it's not about

01:08:18.720 saving like i'm safer if i'm wearing my mask

01:08:20.620 no no no it's not an air it's not a tight

01:08:23.300 seal over your mouth because there's a real

01:08:25.920 mask like a real respirator thing if you're

01:08:27.860 doing spraying a car or where it's actually

01:08:30.460 actually creates a seal a proper seal and

01:08:33.840 you've got full air filters right that's an

01:08:37.520 actual like a like an actual gas mask these

01:08:40.660 little fabric nappy thing face nappies it's

01:08:44.220 nothing it's stupid it's i mean the narrative

01:08:47.240 was that this thing the air can get in and out

01:08:49.720 all around it so what is it yeah so the

01:08:51.660 narrative was that this this thing had

01:08:53.200 escaped a stage four bio lab and that we

01:08:56.880 could defeat it by cutting up a bit of t-shirt

01:08:59.040 and wearing it around our mouth yeah

01:09:00.560 wiping down your post yeah um

01:09:05.580 bernie um uh posted saying covid day of

01:09:10.600 reflection i'm reflecting on thousands of

01:09:12.400 accounts suspended by twitter for spreading

01:09:14.760 the truth and she put it's illogical to push

01:09:17.260 the narrative that the vaccinated are

01:09:18.840 protected from covid but not protected from

01:09:21.060 the unvaccinated it's also dense but you know

01:09:24.160 that right um and it's about vaccine

01:09:26.420 passports as well um yeah so many accounts

01:09:30.020 banned shadow banned and you know people

01:09:32.640 denied that shadow banning was ever a thing

01:09:34.620 but it was clearly obvious certain words if

01:09:37.800 they slipped through and they weren't

01:09:39.520 blurted out i still do that out of habit

01:09:41.800 now even though that they've laxed on all

01:09:45.160 of that i still like censor words out of

01:09:48.760 habit because of that because you knew that

01:09:51.740 the only way to get through to people is just

01:09:54.100 by getting rid of some words or you know

01:09:57.260 blacking out some of the words or a lot of

01:10:00.020 people i still do that i still do that a lot

01:10:01.840 of people saying koof weren't they remember

01:10:03.880 that oh yeah it's called it the koof because

01:10:06.700 if you said covid then the algo would be

01:10:08.840 mental well we have to self-censor in all

01:10:12.340 sorts of ways don't we not just about the

01:10:14.540 koof about lots and lots of different

01:10:16.720 things we self-censor or use irony or sarcasm

01:10:20.940 yeah or dog whistles or redirection or

01:10:24.040 various things to get the point across

01:10:25.760 because you're not allowed to say the actual

01:10:28.640 word the banned word the wrong speak the

01:10:31.020 wrong think yep what a world we're living

01:10:33.300 in you're not you're not allowed to say

01:10:34.580 vaccines kill people and they did a little

01:10:38.060 bit of hope somebody in the comments has

01:10:39.880 said that he was a manager of a gym during

01:10:41.700 the pandemic and he had to register every

01:10:44.220 client is either vaxxed or unvaxxed and

01:10:47.480 refuse the unvaxxed but he didn't do it he

01:10:49.880 just he just you know voided the system so

01:10:52.560 yeah so so there are some people who stood

01:10:54.240 up in a little way to to the various bits of

01:10:56.620 this nonsense uh do you remember that the

01:10:59.700 government incinerated or written off 1.4

01:11:03.160 billion pounds worth of covid ppe provided

01:11:06.480 by one supplier in the summer of 2020 uh it is

01:11:10.100 the single most wasteful public contract the

01:11:13.180 whole pandemic if we could just play the

01:11:15.420 little video doesn't have sound um 1.4

01:11:18.440 billion on one what ministers and civil

01:11:21.120 servants and bureaucrats were involved in

01:11:23.240 making that decision who's on the board or

01:11:25.320 who owns that company they're all probably

01:11:28.240 working for the un now and um look at that

01:11:30.740 you should be to see that from space yeah

01:11:32.440 look at that that's insane this is a whole

01:11:36.580 thread as well um you know it what a weird

01:11:40.420 panicky ridiculous years yeah unbelievable

01:11:45.680 another recollection i've got swings to mind

01:11:48.100 is what it was very early on and it was

01:11:50.820 what made my mind up to not get the

01:11:52.840 vaccination because in the first few days

01:11:54.460 of the first week

01:11:55.240 i like probably the vast majority of people

01:11:57.960 bought it was like oh yeah there's there's

01:11:59.380 been pandemics in the world look at the

01:12:00.680 1919 influenza pandemic it's possible that's a

01:12:04.200 thing it's possible that something's gone

01:12:06.000 awry in china and now there's a bird flu

01:12:08.140 pandemic okay maybe i need to get this

01:12:10.240 vaccine i'll start thinking about it looking

01:12:11.620 about it i remember quite soon within a week

01:12:14.140 or two of it they'd given the vaccine to

01:12:17.660 they'd given the vaccine to everyone on one

01:12:21.020 of our nuclear submarines or everyone in the

01:12:23.460 navy

01:12:23.760 and um so and the story was that everyone on

01:12:31.460 this nuclear submarine had now got covid

01:12:33.380 right everyone every single one of them and

01:12:37.020 it was like so wait so it's not a so it's

01:12:41.040 not a vaccine then or if it is it doesn't

01:12:42.640 work

01:12:43.040 so i'm suspicious of what that chemical is

01:12:47.320 i'm probably not going to put it in myself

01:12:49.980 and that was my and my suspicions and

01:12:53.940 concerns only grew from there so it was

01:12:56.140 almost right away it was like yeah but this

01:12:58.140 vaccine you're talking about it doesn't it

01:13:00.940 doesn't work though it's not it's that so

01:13:03.080 it isn't a vaccine to all intents and purposes

01:13:05.200 no indeed but yeah how did the normies

01:13:08.540 keep buying it for years and years or some

01:13:10.100 still do right i'm still do i'm still do

01:13:11.840 i'm still do um do you remember the tiktok

01:13:15.440 dances oh yeah yeah could we play just that

01:13:18.900 without the sound because you know because

01:13:20.420 these these are really surreal because the

01:13:23.040 whole time while this is going on i'm

01:13:24.920 thinking i'm thinking it's so surreal people

01:13:27.180 are going to see through this nonsense any

01:13:29.080 minute and they didn't and then the tiktok

01:13:33.280 dances started coming out and i'm like

01:13:35.140 okay surely now people are going to figure

01:13:37.600 out that this is a scam and this wasn't

01:13:39.760 just britain this was around the world like

01:13:42.180 a lot a lot of people in lots of countries

01:13:44.820 were all doing it as well um because of

01:13:48.060 course if anyone doesn't remember if it's

01:13:49.700 not really obvious the narrative at the

01:13:51.980 exact same time is that the hospitals are

01:13:53.880 flooded yes that's it don't go to

01:13:55.880 concentrated unless you've got a real real

01:13:58.700 a and e issue yeah do not go to hospital

01:14:01.380 because they're absolutely inundated and

01:14:03.160 flooded yes they and but this though at the

01:14:05.380 same time exactly it was bizarre but they've

01:14:07.380 got the time to do all these choreographed

01:14:09.560 dances clearly it's because nothing was

01:14:11.480 happening in those hospitals it was it was

01:14:13.200 all concentrated in specific to to shape

01:14:16.080 the narrative exactly clearly and and remember

01:14:19.120 they did kill people deliberately because

01:14:21.140 there were people i mean i remember one

01:14:22.900 example of this this guy posting um he's a

01:14:26.360 young guy with two small children and his

01:14:29.100 wife had a cancer and basically um she was

01:14:32.640 getting this cancer treatment which because

01:14:34.180 of the covid panic they decided to cancel

01:14:35.980 and she died so you now got this young guy

01:14:38.920 and these two small children without a

01:14:40.260 mother you want to know the craziest thing

01:14:41.980 is the treatment that she was getting was

01:14:44.620 home administered all that happened is a

01:14:47.980 courier would drop off the treatment and

01:14:49.920 then she would basically do it herself and

01:14:52.580 that was what they cancelled they cancelled

01:14:54.960 even that even that you know honestly i want

01:14:59.120 people put up against the wall for this

01:15:00.820 well again anecdotal evidence or um or our

01:15:05.860 personal recollections uh i was living near

01:15:08.880 rumford at the time uh my local big

01:15:12.200 hospital was the one in rumford was it the

01:15:14.020 queen elizabeth hospital relatively new big

01:15:16.820 hospital and i've been there a number of

01:15:18.580 times over the years anyway my mother had

01:15:20.720 some treatment there so i knew this hospital

01:15:22.020 reasonably well and it wasn't very far it's

01:15:24.000 a fairly long walk from where i lived and

01:15:26.720 they were saying that all the hospitals are

01:15:28.640 completely inundated don't go unless you've

01:15:30.140 got a real a and e issue and i was it was

01:15:32.680 suspicious i'd heard things here and there

01:15:34.820 that it's not the case i was like okay i'm

01:15:36.960 actually going to physically go there and

01:15:38.540 see it with my own eyeballs it's not cordoned

01:15:40.920 off by like a police cordon i can go up to the

01:15:43.440 hospital go in i'm going to see with my own

01:15:45.420 eyes and i went there and it was beyond dead i

01:15:48.320 mean there was no one there it's got a massive

01:15:50.740 atrium massive thing and it was there's no one

01:15:53.780 there there's like a receptionist woman but

01:15:56.400 beyond that no one it's usually a bustling

01:15:58.320 thing and it's like it couldn't have been more

01:16:01.740 of a lie not only was it a liar it was it was

01:16:04.680 huge i uh i mentioned earlier about um in my

01:16:09.460 post about the spying um raf intelligence

01:16:13.300 officers joined whitehall and army in spying on

01:16:15.940 covid lockdown critics including david davis and

01:16:18.680 peter hitchens this was a very famous story

01:16:21.100 2023 um david davis was at the time one of the

01:16:26.820 very few mps that were actually saying something

01:16:28.740 about lockdowns but then he did pivot later on

01:16:31.360 which was such a shame uh he only went so far and

01:16:35.120 obviously peter hitchens very famous about

01:16:37.580 speaking out against the lockdowns but even him

01:16:40.520 i believe pivoted later on well he did get the

01:16:43.640 vaccine himself yes he did the only one i can

01:16:46.600 think of who and he wasn't even mainstream media

01:16:49.220 at that point was james dunningpole the only

01:16:51.700 journalist in the country who was against it from

01:16:53.640 beginning to end and didn't get vaccinated yeah

01:16:55.540 yeah um insane um campaign group big brother

01:17:02.060 watch uh last night branded whitehall's use of

01:17:04.680 military personnel and attack of freedom of speech

01:17:06.740 and behavior befitting an authoritarian state

01:17:10.180 couldn't have said that any better uh really

01:17:13.200 yeah it was a very very strange time um yeah talk

01:17:19.020 about authoritarian state yeah they curtailed our

01:17:21.880 liberties yeah yeah it's no exaggeration to say it

01:17:24.760 was a type of house arrest yeah a type of house

01:17:27.740 arrest i mean there's no precedent for that i was

01:17:30.760 saying this at the time even during the black death the great

01:17:35.520 pestilence the great dying of 1348 to 149 49 the the the black

01:17:41.340 death uh there was no sort of um in in small pockets there

01:17:46.400 was sort of a self-imposed kind of lockdown but the state

01:17:49.000 never mandated that you're not allowed out of your home

01:17:52.360 even then yep so yeah authoritarian and of course the the the state did not

01:17:58.020 have the power to enforce it so that's why they propagandize people

01:18:02.380 so much so because they turned all the idiot normies into enforcers

01:18:08.000 deputize the karen class yeah exactly and and that that was that was the

01:18:12.520 whole tedious problem that i had during that

01:18:14.600 because i i refused to go along with one iota

01:18:18.400 of any of this stuff so every time i went to the shops i'd have some

01:18:22.500 karen at me and you know sometimes i'd argue with them sometimes i'd just look

01:18:28.360 at them and just see their their vacant glassy eyes

01:18:32.300 and just realize that this person does not have the mental fire power to engage

01:18:37.080 with a single thing that i'm going to say

01:18:38.840 so i'm just going to make sheep noises as i barge past and

01:18:42.120 basically ignore them yeah that's what i ended up doing just ignoring it

01:18:46.440 just ignoring you yeah yeah some karen moaning that you're not wearing a mask

01:18:51.600 in tesco's or something the worst one were the people who had

01:18:54.160 a little bit of power yes because they loved oh yeah because

01:18:57.520 they loved it it was just like it was like what you would read out of

01:19:00.620 soviet russia or you know reading solzhenitsyn they say they got straight on

01:19:04.940 and people noticed that like you know people that

01:19:07.660 were very critics at the time and you post about that and then more stories

01:19:13.080 came out of people doing exactly the same this this behavioral nudge and we

01:19:17.980 know about the nudge units that were set up over that time oh i say set up

01:19:21.460 they were already there but they were hyper like focused uh on

01:19:25.560 curtailing that particular narrative this

01:19:28.620 this is the exact moment when this came out

01:19:32.100 very very early on that made me realize something

01:19:35.700 was wrong this is exactly it

01:19:37.960 um one so james melville posts uh one of the most disingenuous aspects of the

01:19:44.100 government's covid messaging was the manipulation of statistics in particular

01:19:47.860 deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive test so remember they were

01:19:52.340 doing the ticker with the death rates um and then they had it in the small print

01:19:58.300 as you can see there deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive test the

01:20:03.620 most absurd example that i remember from this is a guy in florida had a had a

01:20:07.940 positive test and then two weeks later he came

01:20:10.520 off his motorbike yes i read i read about that and he and he went in the

01:20:14.720 statistics yes so it's it's insane so you should you

01:20:17.960 could get a positive test and then be eaten by a shark and you would go down as a

01:20:21.120 code yes yeah and i remember i sat with that when we're not friends now but

01:20:27.260 unfortunately because of that and because of the move into journalism and

01:20:30.860 politics because of all of this this is what you know pushed me into the sphere

01:20:35.860 that's what radicalized me and and i remember sitting at their house

01:20:39.560 and we were watching the news watching the ticker just before

01:20:42.700 boris johnson announced the lockdowns where we were seeing

01:20:46.240 all the numbers rise and rise and rise and then i saw the the print

01:20:52.000 that and the reporter explaining that

01:20:56.520 and i went hang on a minute so how do we know which one was a

01:21:01.440 covid death and which one wasn't and i remember saying that

01:21:05.020 to my friends they didn't even it didn't register

01:21:09.380 they were like oh they didn't want it to it would have bounced off and i'm sitting

01:21:13.140 there pulling my hair out going well that's wrong then

01:21:15.460 so what is the real this this is something i spotted in the first couple of

01:21:18.840 weeks and this was when i first started tweeting is i because i i didn't have a

01:21:21.900 presence at all until the until this started right and one of the first things

01:21:26.600 i sort of tweeted out is because right at the beginning of

01:21:29.140 of this whole thing because they obviously knew it was a

01:21:31.780 plan demic they obviously knew something was

01:21:33.900 coming right in the first few days of this thing starting to be a thing they

01:21:37.480 changed the way that coroners do their death reporting

01:21:40.040 so that basically they didn't even need to see the patient they could just ring up

01:21:43.420 if there's like a death in a nursing home they could just ring up somebody at the

01:21:46.000 nursing home and said and have a quick chat down the phone and then

01:21:48.920 mark it down as covid without even seeing the patient and so i pointed out

01:21:53.020 that actually the only thing that you can possibly trust on these statistics

01:21:56.080 is not the covid reporting but the entire death rate the total death rate

01:22:01.160 because that's the only number they can't fix and so i then started reporting on

01:22:05.000 that from time to time what has the entire death rate done

01:22:07.580 and it was basically normal in fact if anything it was um those two years

01:22:13.980 slightly below average in terms of total death rate

01:22:16.500 um we remember as well a lot of people pundits um whether it be well media

01:22:23.360 personalities journalists uh hosts of shows uh said some things that were pretty

01:22:30.540 bizarre during that time very emotionally fueled

01:22:33.540 um which that's down to of course the um the nudge units pushing and pushing and

01:22:43.300 well if we could just play this one um uh just with the sound on if that's okay

01:22:51.960 um

01:22:53.160 yes um

01:22:58.160 that's enabled all these players to mince around on football pitches for 12 billion pounds a week

01:23:06.680 and angela we either allow this or we end up holding people down and and jabbing them by force

01:23:11.740 no you see it's so

01:23:12.640 so there was some out of pocket stuff like that um which did not sit well with a lot of people

01:23:18.660 um and it was just it was sad really it was really sad and disappointing to see a lot of people

01:23:26.280 uh i'm obviously no fan of jeremy vine uh obviously but um mildly well as you said at the beginning i

01:23:32.460 remember nana akuno on gb news making that argument just explicitly i think she was doing just a bit to

01:23:37.860 camera saying yeah do that yeah i might have seen that some can't find the clip for love the money now

01:23:42.840 right it's been yeety i can't find it anyway but i remember it it's in my memory banks

01:23:46.860 saying yeah people should be forced to we need to save the old people

01:23:50.860 what does this guy say so can we play this one as well this is still up

01:23:56.180 well it's monday the 4th of january the first normal working day of the year i've just listened

01:24:04.560 minutes ago to boris johnson's statement to the nation and we are going back into a full lockdown

01:24:11.300 in england parliament will debate this and vote on it on wednesday the labour party support it so

01:24:16.920 there's no question it's going to happen and indeed scotland wales and northern ireland very

01:24:22.680 much in the same place listen carefully to what boris johnson had to say the schools will be closed

01:24:29.120 until the mid-february half term by which time he said if all goes well and there's a following wind

01:24:37.140 people over 70 and those that are vulnerable will have received the vaccine but he said

01:24:44.640 it takes three weeks for that to really kick in so he hopes the schools can go back shortly

01:24:52.520 after that date effectively what he's saying is that we're locked down until early march if things go

01:25:01.180 well now one of the arguments for this is of course the soaring number of people testing positive but

01:25:08.580 perhaps what really worries him is there are 40 percent more people in hospital as covid cases

01:25:14.280 right now than there were back at the peak of this it's quite a long one it's about nine minutes let's

01:25:19.440 let's just pause it here just and just read the the caption that he put but you can find this video

01:25:24.600 he still is still up it says i do not agree with tony blair on much but he has led the debate on

01:25:29.660 vaccinations well put him in charge of the vaccination program and let's have a government of all the

01:25:35.680 talents to end this unmitigated disaster well there won't be any talent from the right because

01:25:40.420 he's destroyed all their careers so um it just completely buying into the narrative that

01:25:46.480 you know the the lockdowns were legit in any possible way remember him with his pots and pans

01:25:52.540 can't wait for the vaccine and pots and pans banging in solidarity with the flooded hospitals that weren't

01:25:58.060 flooded all just nonsense i i'm just i was just so gutted really to see a lot of people

01:26:04.620 uh from all sides just uh completely just lose their minds with it um and just saying things

01:26:12.460 that were so out of pocket i mean tony blair as the vaccinations what what it what it showed me

01:26:17.700 is that actually most people who npcs they don't have minds they just have tvs right

01:26:23.280 um and there's obviously the effect of lockdown later on uh children's speech delays increased

01:26:32.200 following lockdowns we're still struggling with that i think i believe that's to do with the mask

01:26:36.540 wearing as well uh so not just the separation uh because socially when you you know the mind of a

01:26:43.160 child is like a sponge and they have to absorb information in order to learn obviously um and if

01:26:49.120 they don't have social interaction with with people uh that can really affect them mentally uh along

01:26:57.160 with there's articles as well to do with speech delayed in speech um or like this one but it's all

01:27:05.920 to do with the mask wearing because you can't see what what another person is saying and you know how

01:27:11.180 it's articulated you have to look at facial features when you when people speak to each other

01:27:15.700 if he was in year 10 or 11 or doing your two years of a levels during those two years

01:27:20.940 that screwed you that would have screwed you right yeah if i was in year 11 going on to my

01:27:30.100 first year of uh sixth form all right well so like my whole end of school early further education

01:27:36.760 is completely ruined pretty much i remember hearing about a young police officer who got called to to a

01:27:43.180 job in a pub and was completely floundered because they'd never been in a pub before because their

01:27:48.400 university period overlapped covid and they'd never been in a pub bizarre and not just lockdown but i

01:27:57.260 remember when this came out a teenage boys more at risk from vaccines than covid young males isn't done

01:28:03.820 yet this was huge when this came out um young males are six times more likely to suffer from heart

01:28:09.120 problems after being jabbed than be hospitalized study finds uh so in in order that the government could

01:28:16.640 dole out contracts to its friends and test its psychological operations a whole bunch of teenage

01:28:23.200 boys got killed and more more will be coming because there's more heart problems out there that are just

01:28:28.340 below the level that people aren't picking up on it's a sad i'm sorry i know it's blackpilling it's

01:28:34.980 really and it makes me a bit emotional actually because i it's just because it's it's kids as well

01:28:40.660 and it's it's a different well they say the um the outcome of a system is is the point of it

01:28:49.020 covid was about killing kids at the moment they're trying to get us into the ukraine war to kill kids

01:28:53.580 um people accept the idea that the state can put you under house arrest at the drop of a hat and

01:28:59.480 you've got no recourse against it and the cherry on top of the cake is you know there's the there's the

01:29:04.940 investigation into the into it all right oh that's you know that oh what the the inquiry inquiry

01:29:12.460 and from what i've seen there's nothing it's a complete whitewash the inquiry is about why didn't

01:29:17.900 you do lockdown sooner and harder and longer that's the angle of it yeah because we are running low on

01:29:23.560 yes some of the comments yes absolutely um what have we got here uh a quiet voice um says i remember

01:29:32.480 being denied my right to worship whilst weed and liquor stores were deemed essential i remember

01:29:37.640 being denied access to my uh parishioners uh parishioners um to to comfort them whilst they

01:29:43.740 were dying yep uh a lot of churches decided to close as well pubs and parks and churches closed but

01:29:49.520 the border wide open yeah sure yellow one okay it is thanks to you guys i started my path of learning

01:29:56.420 i learned the wonderful uh wonderful history sorry i don't know where ever wonder wonderful history we

01:30:01.640 have thanks for the light in the darkness that was logan 17 pine as well um uh let's have a look

01:30:09.740 we read out a few more do you reckon yeah yeah do a couple more um oh we've read that's a random name

01:30:15.960 out um about the manager at the gym during during the pandemic uh or plandemic uh we had to register

01:30:22.720 every vax customer and refuse uh the pure bloods i remember remember that uh i registered every single

01:30:29.540 customer vax or not in the system um i'm unvaxxed um what else we got uh hearing that that's a random

01:30:38.480 name again here in quebec the government was very open about marginalizing uh people who are unvaccinated

01:30:43.700 or pure bloods um that was the nickname when it that people gave uh the pm went on tv calling us um

01:30:51.640 recalcitrance recalcitrance i've never heard of that word forgive me it's a new word of the day

01:30:56.580 uh our top female tv personality saying we should be arrested for being unvaxxed yep yeah um just

01:31:05.200 do just do a couple of last ones cranky texan says this is um this oh the only person who died

01:31:10.680 was covid wasn't recorded as a covid death it was george floyd yep um and and that's a random name says

01:31:16.560 uh reminded that we have evil putin to thank for ending the pandemic yes that's also very true

01:31:22.180 yep oh yes because the narrative shift yeah and it all pivoted on a day and then it was all over

01:31:27.680 bizarre um have we got any video comments

01:31:30.440 i can't hear you samson

01:31:33.420 okay okay right um well uh we've we're out of time so um any video comments we will pick up in

01:31:43.920 in tomorrow's episode um ladies and gentlemen thank you very much admire the beers on display and uh

01:31:50.700 we'll see you later for the round table

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - March 11, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1118

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