The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus eaters for tuesday the 18th

00:00:12.920 of march 2025 i'm joined by dan and today we're going to be talking about nigel farage

00:00:18.300 going to the left then we're going to talk about nigel farage going to the left and then we're

00:00:23.760 going to talk about how the left is mental uh over elon musk in this particular case so without

00:00:29.700 further ado ado ado ado do things to do yes let's begin yes well we've had some criticisms of nigel

00:00:39.920 farage over the past week or so not just us i mean lots and lots of people but basically everyone

00:00:44.720 who's ever worked with him um us on the uh what do you call them the online right um you know a

00:00:50.920 significant the activists themselves branch chairmen we've all had criticisms of nigel farage

00:00:55.460 but i'm here to report that it's over oh we lost good point um nigel farage has dropped the r bomb 0.75

00:01:02.620 uh let's check out this video because um you know he he's done it he's deployed the nuclear weapon

00:01:07.880 link but i don't want to say one thing some of the online abuse can you turn up a bit

00:01:20.440 exactly quite outright over racism that has been showed against a senior member of this party

00:01:28.500 had it been shown towards any other

00:01:32.780 member of the ethnic minorities from the labor and conservative parties every one of you in the

00:01:40.420 journalistic arena in this room would have been in total and absolute uproar it would have been a

00:01:46.860 major national story but because it's happening to us no one seems to really care with the honorable

00:01:53.480 exception of danny finkelstein in the times i've never really agreed with anything in the past danny's

00:02:00.380 ever written but on this he showed himself to be fair and to be decent anyway we are big enough

00:02:07.540 and ugly enough to take it and we are cracking on right well i guess it's going to be a really short

00:02:14.060 podcast today because you know he's he's one cull he's called us racists we've got no comeback on

00:02:20.540 that what do we do uh well if nigel farage is joining the left why don't we just do what we do

00:02:26.740 whenever a left winger calls us a racist and ignore them what hang on you are you saying that when

00:02:35.020 somebody calls you a racist instead of immediately surrendering you could just ignore that well i mean

00:02:41.720 it has been traditionally what we've done with the left i mean we we did try to argue against them

00:02:46.520 but it turned out that the accusation wasn't being made in good faith then we did try to point out

00:02:50.780 they're being hypocritical and that they're the real racist but it turns out that doesn't have any

00:02:54.720 impact on them at all as i think nigel farage is learning uh and so we just uh ignore them and carry 0.95

00:03:01.180 on oh god i didn't realize you could do that that's nigel well that's that's brilliant i mean 0.82

00:03:08.320 if if only we had known that when you're called racist instead of immediately surrendering your

00:03:15.700 country if we had done that 30 years ago i mean we could still have a culture and a people yes

00:03:22.380 well on on that bombshell ladies and gentlemen uh i i guess we better sort of suddenly make up a

00:03:29.180 second half of a segment then because that's that's thrown me in complete disarray um you know

00:03:34.600 it appears in the situation is this you know chap on twitter points out farage thinks that any in

00:03:40.540 group preference even the most mild and functional form um is unacceptable right um basically he's done

00:03:49.680 the hillary clinton thing hasn't he cole he he he's gone out there and he's called us all a basket of

00:03:54.840 deplorables the only difference being is that when hillary clinton was doing it she was doing it against 0.99

00:03:59.500 her political enemies and farage is doing it against his political friends yes no he's done

00:04:05.540 kind of the reverse of hillary clinton here yeah he's he's attacking his own base for being deplorable

00:04:11.200 rather than the enemy's base for being deplorable right okay well he he's basically sort of trying to

00:04:19.200 outflank the tories from the left then which is a difficult thing to do yes well to be fair the tories

00:04:25.700 did manage to flank labor from the left so there is precedent of it being done yes but that's the

00:04:31.120 point that's how far left the tories are if the tories are outflanking labor to the left and farage is

00:04:36.020 outflanking the tories to the left well he's he's definitely wandered into quite left-wing territory

00:04:41.280 there was a quip that you made that i quite enjoyed at the recent witton where basically somebody asked

00:04:49.780 you who you were going to vote for and you said well i don't know maybe labor because of the most

00:04:53.840 right-wing party that i can find i mean that that's sort of the situation that we found ourselves in

00:04:59.260 where every time we have something that purports to be a right-wing party they basically then try

00:05:06.180 and flank the labor from the left and then reform of flanking tories on the left i kind of noticed

00:05:10.340 that keir starmer is currently enacting a series of uh governmental and institutional reforms to cut

00:05:15.980 waste yes and reduce the size of the state never thought i'd say that yeah he's like cut a whole nhs

00:05:22.580 england department or something isn't he the whole quango that controls it yeah cutting benefits 0.89

00:05:26.420 um i mean and cutting benefits yes the next thing he's gonna do so right and immigration numbers are

00:05:32.960 down i mean to be fair you you not by much but yeah you had to be going some to keep up with the

00:05:37.580 boris wave but you would really work to keep up with we we seem to have genuinely ended up in a

00:05:42.700 situation where the the labor of the most right-wing party they're just thoroughly incompetent yeah

00:05:48.480 yeah yeah yeah pretty extraordinary um i wonder if i wonder if this messaging has got across oh

00:05:54.440 it has look there we go there we go it it's got across to um to rupert lowe this this clever strategy

00:06:00.380 of of basically saying when you're called racist just i don't care he let's just pretend that the

00:06:06.780 importation uh legally and illegal of a countless uh young foreign men who have zero respect for women 0.99

00:06:12.980 has had no impact on women's safety and to those who raise concerns are and those of us who raise

00:06:18.960 concerns are somehow racist honestly who cares there we go so lowe's got the memo there's our trump

00:06:25.720 yes don't really care well i suppose that's that's the that's the other genius of of trump isn't it is

00:06:32.640 that he didn't he didn't kowtow to the frame of you can probably say this better than me but the frame

00:06:40.460 of reference that the enemy's set for you something like that yeah yeah the the the uh moral um

00:06:45.580 paradigm that the enemy have set is you're not allowed to ever be essentially in self-interested

00:06:52.700 in your own uh good and rupert lowe said well i don't really care about that actually so basically

00:06:59.460 what we need to do is get rupert lowe a party yeah and then we can actually have a right-wing party in

00:07:08.160 britain okay you can imagine such a thing yes because i mean what we used to have five left-wing

00:07:14.320 parties and now it looks like we've got six left-wing parties so it does yeah yes yes not so

00:07:19.280 good anyway well let's cheer us up a bit um what have you got here oh this is this is a lovely um

00:07:25.540 compilation it's it's it's about a slightly more than a minute which is it is a longer clip than i'd

00:07:30.980 normally play on the on the podcast but this is so enjoyable um that i thought it was worth

00:07:36.740 playing in full so uh harry can you can you uh play this for us

00:07:41.880 deport deport deported deported deported deporting deportations deport deported deported deported deported

00:07:48.740 deported deported deported deported deport deported deport deporting deport deported deported deportation

00:07:53.380 deportation they should be securely detained until rapid deportation can be arranged deported deported

00:08:00.220 deported. deported. deported. deportations. Two words. detain deport. deportation deportations.

00:08:08.140 tens of thousands of deportations. deportations deportations. two words detain deport deportations

00:08:16.860 deportation. two d's detain deport deported deport those with no right to be here deportation

00:08:24.220 or mass deportation detained and deported detained deport detained deport deport deport deport

00:08:29.900 Deport, deport, mass deportations, deportation, or even mass deportation, mass deportations,

00:08:35.920 deportations, deported, deported, and they should be deported, deported, deported. 0.97

00:08:42.280 I can see why Farage is like, oh God, this guy's got to go.

00:08:45.440 Yeah.

00:08:45.740 Because that's a message that's going to resonate.

00:08:47.980 Well, I mean, that was quite enjoyable.

00:08:51.060 I mean, Lowe coming out as a double D enthusiast, as every red-blooded male should be in this country. 1.00

00:08:57.160 But I mean, this is kind of a thing, isn't it?

00:08:59.800 It's like, you know, those of us on the right, we've got a fairly simple set of requests here.

00:09:08.260 Yeah, send the illegals home. 1.00

00:09:10.000 Yes.

00:09:10.800 Day one.

00:09:12.100 It's not difficult.

00:09:13.680 Well, not just the illegals, but the, I mean, people who can't afford to support themselves either. 0.89

00:09:19.220 Sure, but I think the most easy one to put across to the public, they will most understand,

00:09:27.280 is that, look, we can sidestep any questions, you know, that might get into the weeds about anything.

00:09:32.560 If someone is here illegally, they should be sent home. 1.00

00:09:35.240 Like, 67% of people agree with that, that just every single illegal should be sent home.

00:09:40.560 Okay, well, let's do that.

00:09:41.700 That's a great campaign promise.

00:09:43.820 Yeah, because, I mean, it depends how you set these things up, doesn't it?

00:09:45.680 Because the left will always want to come at this from an absolutist perspective, which is, oh, you know,

00:09:54.100 let's say you've got a foreign wife and, you know, she lives with you for 40 years and then you die. 1.00

00:10:00.080 They, you know, do you deport her the day after you die? 0.98

00:10:02.300 They go for the most extreme, ridiculous examples that you can think of. 0.94

00:10:06.160 And to be fair, there are some Spurgs on the right who actually want to go down that route. 1.00

00:10:10.940 But that's unhelpful.

00:10:12.300 But actually, you know, you're right.

00:10:13.060 You just, you just start from, okay, well, what, what, what can we agree on?

00:10:17.060 The people who came here illegally, okay, obviously they've got to go. 1.00

00:10:21.220 Yeah.

00:10:21.640 Okay, then, then what about one inch to the right of that?

00:10:24.120 Okay, you know, what about, you know, people who came here legally, but are engaged in serious crime?

00:10:33.380 They're serving a jail term.

00:10:34.620 Can we deport them when they finish their jail term?

00:10:36.240 Again, something like 67% of people agree with that.

00:10:39.360 Oh, yeah, because there was that poll that came out, wasn't there?

00:10:40.900 It was, yeah.

00:10:42.380 Yeah.

00:10:42.580 So these are, these are completely mainstream, uncontroversial positions, by the way.

00:10:46.740 Was it something like 99% of reform supporters are in favor of deportations and 60, was it 67%?

00:10:52.700 67% of normals.

00:10:53.920 Yeah.

00:10:54.800 So that's a, that's a pretty consistent.

00:10:56.240 Even 52% of Lib Dems.

00:10:58.900 52% of Lib Dems.

00:11:00.640 So even most Lib Dems agree.

00:11:02.900 I mean, it's, yeah, it's almost impossible to find anything of which.

00:11:08.540 It's the most popular political position in the entire country.

00:11:11.680 Right.

00:11:12.500 There's just nothing that has this kind of level of agreement on.

00:11:15.260 So why do you think Farage is saying that it's impossible then?

00:11:17.540 Yeah, that's a great question.

00:11:18.560 I can't answer it.

00:11:19.260 I mean, I saw Gwaine Towler going out.

00:11:21.780 Um, and he's been really pounding the beat for Farage in the wake of this Rupert Lowe thing.

00:11:27.100 And he made a very, um, important distinction between illegal immigrants who have committed crimes, which is the ones that Farage promises he'll deport, even though, as if I believe that. 0.93

00:11:37.920 And then those that haven't committed crimes should just be left in the country to have the opportunity to commit crimes.

00:11:43.600 Um, I think there's something that Gwaine kind of missed on that, which is the, the term illegal immigrant means that every single one of them has committed a crime. 0.99

00:11:53.200 Yes.

00:11:53.820 And so every single one of them can go.

00:11:56.140 And it's that simple.

00:11:58.000 Yes. 0.57

00:11:58.220 I mean, by definition, they are literally criminals, literally criminals.

00:12:02.180 Yes.

00:12:02.640 I actually, that, that's an interesting point.

00:12:04.480 I hadn't, I think I'd understood this on some level, but you're right.

00:12:08.940 Farage's commitment to deportation only goes as far as people who are here illegally and have also committed another crime on top of that.

00:12:16.800 Yes.

00:12:17.280 And often these crimes are horrific and it would be better to prevent those people who are here illegally from committing those crimes before we deport them, you know, but it would be better to deport them to prevent them. 1.00

00:12:27.400 Having murdered or raped someone or something like that.

00:12:29.860 Yes. 0.99

00:12:30.820 But, but you're right.

00:12:31.580 So, so that is, so he's committed to basically the smallest possible subsect.

00:12:37.340 Yeah.

00:12:38.460 Whereas actually the next step up from that is, okay, you just deport everybody who's here illegally. 0.99

00:12:42.220 The next step up from that is, okay, you deport all of them plus all of the people who are here illegally with dual citizenship who have also committed a, have also committed a crime. 0.96

00:12:51.260 Which again, the British public overwhelmingly supports.

00:12:53.320 And then you could go a little bit further, which is, okay, we're not going to provide, you know, welfare support.

00:12:59.620 In fact, I think that, I think this is, that's Rupert's next support, next point here.

00:13:03.980 Here he says, if a foreign national is unable to support themselves financially, then why are they here? 0.96

00:13:09.080 What are they contributing?

00:13:10.480 What benefit are they providing to the British people?

00:13:12.660 We have been banging this drum for years.

00:13:15.080 It's finally nice to see an MP actually saying it.

00:13:17.480 But I mean, it's, I, I, is there any other country, I mean, maybe the, maybe the chat or the comments can sort of inform us, but is there any other country, any non-Western country that you can go to and just turn up and just get given a house?

00:13:32.060 Well, there's not gonna be a non-Western country.

00:13:33.700 No, it's only Western countries that are insistent that everyone must have human rights everywhere, all over the place.

00:13:39.880 And that means free BMWs from the government.

00:13:42.800 Only those countries do this.

00:13:45.660 Obviously, a normal country doesn't do this.

00:13:48.580 Yeah.

00:13:49.160 I mean, yeah, I mean, any normal country, irrespective of what you contribute when you're there, if you go in illegally, you're automatically out.

00:13:56.020 It's just an automatic out.

00:13:57.140 But also, I mean, most countries, they kind of want you to demonstrate that you can support yourself.

00:14:03.880 Yeah.

00:14:04.120 And it's worth noting as well that most countries actually don't have a major problem with illegal immigration, right?

00:14:09.100 Because most of the time, it's not advantageous to break into a foreign country, because most countries aren't set up to benefit foreigners, right?

00:14:19.060 Most countries.

00:14:20.060 No, but it's just, it's literally that simple, right?

00:14:22.720 Most countries are just not set up.

00:14:25.060 They don't have, like, an entire, like, section of their law dedicated to protecting the rights of foreign people who break into the country, right?

00:14:33.120 And so you can't get benefits.

00:14:34.860 You don't have lawyers on your team.

00:14:36.100 You don't have the media and this activist class, NGOs, the quangos, that you don't have them all pulling in your favor to get you as much native money poured into your pockets as possible. 0.59

00:14:46.740 They don't put you up in a house.

00:14:47.940 They don't give you a car.

00:14:48.880 They don't make sure.

00:14:49.840 They don't put you in a hotel.

00:14:50.700 They don't just give you spending money, right?

00:14:52.540 And then the society itself is parochial.

00:14:55.500 The society itself is like, no, I'm not going to, like, if I'm in Guatemala or something, and some guy from the Congo turns up, like, I'm not going to hire him because I don't know who he is. 1.00

00:15:05.680 What the hell is he doing here?

00:15:06.440 I'm going to hire another Guatemalan guy, right? 1.00

00:15:08.140 So there's a natural preferencing for the native population by the native population.

00:15:12.820 And so the civilization is set up for itself and not to support foreigners. 0.99

00:15:17.660 So most of the time, what would be the advantage to breaking into Guatemala illegally?

00:15:21.500 None.

00:15:22.000 It would be really difficult, and you'd probably starve.

00:15:23.960 You know, it'd go badly for you.

00:15:25.700 So this is not a problem they have to deal with.

00:15:27.920 You know, no one in the Congo is like, great, I'm going to break into Guatemala, and then I'm going to take advantage. 0.99

00:15:32.340 There's nothing to take advantage of.

00:15:34.080 It's only Western countries that do this.

00:15:36.100 This is why, you know, China doesn't have this problem, you know?

00:15:39.380 I mean, that's sort of designed throughout the fabric of the society.

00:15:41.540 I mean, I remember queuing up for some cultural site or something in one of the Asian countries,

00:15:49.200 and it had a big sign up that sort of said entry fee and whatever it was, you know, 800-somethings.

00:15:54.460 And then I noticed there was the native language with a big 400 under it.

00:16:00.720 And so I asked one of the little locals, I said, well, what does that part of the sign says?

00:16:05.460 And he says, oh, basically, natives pay half as much as foreigners do.

00:16:09.080 So we do the exact opposite in this country.

00:16:12.060 We've recently put together a scheme where if you're an illegal immigrant,

00:16:16.800 you can attend an English heritage site for free.

00:16:21.120 I mean, we set up our society on the basis of doing everything the opposite way around.

00:16:25.620 I mean, I have to pay for my English heritage membership.

00:16:28.580 Yes.

00:16:28.880 So, you know, there we go.

00:16:30.940 Yeah.

00:16:31.120 But then I have to pay to live in a house.

00:16:33.660 Yes.

00:16:34.340 You know, whereas foreigners, obviously, they don't. 1.00

00:16:36.480 You know, 72% of Somalis are paid to live in Britain by the British taxpayer.

00:16:43.440 Like, half of the social housing in London is occupied by foreigners. 0.98

00:16:47.300 So we're just occupying London with a bunch of foreign people that we're paying for. 1.00

00:16:51.620 And this is why we're paying more than a million foreigners just to live here at our expense. 1.00

00:16:56.940 Well, isn't something like, yeah, 60% of London social housing is occupied by...

00:17:02.320 45%.

00:17:02.480 45%.

00:17:03.240 Oh, 45% occupied by first-generation immigrants who obviously cannot support themselves. 1.00

00:17:08.580 And that's why they're in social housing.

00:17:10.660 And we're literally paying for them to live in our capital city.

00:17:12.960 Yeah.

00:17:13.300 I mean, there were a few simple things that you could do that could start to move the situation around.

00:17:17.580 Stop paying them, yeah.

00:17:18.580 Yeah.

00:17:18.880 Yeah.

00:17:19.120 Well, one, the basics enforce the law where you get rid of people who haven't done that.

00:17:24.340 And you don't even start needing to get any more...

00:17:28.300 Well, you can get more aggressive on your deportation policy.

00:17:31.620 But you could also go a hell of a long way just by saying, one, we're not going to pay you to be here.

00:17:35.780 Yeah.

00:17:36.140 You know, if you don't have at least one British grandparent, you're not getting any benefits.

00:17:40.480 Yeah.

00:17:40.800 Which is a very low bar, I think.

00:17:43.280 I mean, you could even have...

00:17:44.360 If you weren't born in this country, it would be a massive...

00:17:47.360 I mean, that would be $7.5 billion a year that you then knock off.

00:17:50.740 Yep.

00:17:51.140 Right?

00:17:51.580 And that's just in the universal credit.

00:17:53.680 That's not in the housing system and the NHS or anything else that they're claiming on.

00:17:58.900 But you would probably say something...

00:18:00.440 It's going to be around $20 billion a year.

00:18:03.420 Yeah.

00:18:03.720 I mean, I'd probably like to do it on the basis of grandparents, given that the last...

00:18:08.240 Yeah, sure.

00:18:08.340 Well, basically since 1997, there's been so much immigration there.

00:18:11.300 We've got lots of second-generation immigrants who, you know, maybe their parents didn't...

00:18:17.100 Well, maybe their parents didn't work, but I don't...

00:18:18.800 But yeah, you're right.

00:18:19.480 You could even do it for first-generation immigrants.

00:18:21.300 You could only go back that far, and at least you'd be cutting the flow at that point.

00:18:25.960 Tens of billions, it's safe.

00:18:27.600 Yeah.

00:18:28.160 And the incentive to move to here would be massively reduced.

00:18:32.640 I mean, the other thing that always occurs to me is...

00:18:35.020 I was a bit ill at the end of the last week, so I don't know if we covered this or not,

00:18:38.960 but there was some horrible stuff going around on Twitter about the slaughterhouses.

00:18:43.540 Yeah.

00:18:45.500 As simple as basically enforcing food standard laws universally.

00:18:50.580 Yeah, for anyone who's not aware, halal and kosher slaughter requires it, for arcane religious reasons,

00:18:58.140 to be non-stunned, for some reason, as if that's...

00:19:03.140 Well, I doubt very much a 7th century text made reference to, you must not stun them.

00:19:10.460 No.

00:19:10.840 It just didn't specify that you would.

00:19:13.200 But the point is, this is somehow objectionable to, again, these ancient religions.

00:19:18.400 It's like, well, that's not really my problem, is it?

00:19:20.520 You have countries that you can go to if you don't like the way that we slaughter our animals here,

00:19:25.420 and these are our rules, and these are our laws, and you'll have to abide them.

00:19:29.240 And the thing is, you know, you could just import the meat, or something like that, if you wanted, you know?

00:19:34.740 I would probably favour just banning, you know, halal and kosher meat, and banning the import as well.

00:19:41.760 And it's like, okay, if you...

00:19:42.560 You could, but I think...

00:19:43.460 If it's that important, you just become a vegetarian.

00:19:45.800 Yeah, but the thing is, I'm thinking of what's most likely to win over the British public, right?

00:19:50.500 So, it's most likely to, if you wanted to have a campaign against halal slaughter, very easy to win over the British public. 0.99

00:19:56.980 Very easy.

00:19:57.960 Because, I mean, in the one example, they were slaughtering sheep.

00:20:01.440 Whilst they were playing, like, wolf noises to scare them, it's just like, okay, that's just...

00:20:06.680 Yes, unnecessarily evil.

00:20:08.220 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:08.920 Comically evil.

00:20:10.160 That would be a very easy thing to just say, well, look, we're just not going to allow you to do that.

00:20:14.060 So, that's over.

00:20:15.080 Get used to it.

00:20:16.300 And, you know, there'll be people who say, well, okay, well, you can just import them.

00:20:19.560 That's fine.

00:20:19.880 I mean, you know, let them have it for now.

00:20:22.180 You know, it's just, we are going to establish some boundaries, and we're going to worry about what comes afterwards, afterwards, right?

00:20:29.200 But, for now, no, you can't just massacre these animals without any thought to their welfare.

00:20:34.920 That's horrible.

00:20:36.120 So, I mean, Lowe seems to be onto something here with some of this stuff.

00:20:39.740 I mean, he writes well.

00:20:41.600 He seems very based.

00:20:42.860 I mean, he seems to me, to be honest, like the sort of person that would read The Islander.

00:20:48.200 The Islander, the magazine which we produce, we are not getting any money from YouTube whatsoever because they hate us and they keep demonetizing us.

00:20:58.180 So, if you like the fact that we exist, why not go to our shop and buy Islander 3?

00:21:03.980 You'll get this beautiful magazine.

00:21:06.160 This is a lovely collector's piece.

00:21:07.740 And if you are going to do that, do it very soon because we've probably only got a couple more days worth of stock because this one is selling even faster than the first two.

00:21:15.840 Yeah, it's been really good.

00:21:16.820 Yes.

00:21:17.120 I am actually going to send Rupert one of our copies because I would like you to have it and I think you'd enjoy it.

00:21:21.680 Well, you better go and take one out the pile quickly before they all sell.

00:21:24.080 I will, actually.

00:21:25.120 And pack it off to...

00:21:26.600 I actually have taken a couple of copies to myself and I'll send him one of mine.

00:21:32.240 I like this reference as well.

00:21:33.760 It's a random comment, but...

00:21:35.340 Comparing Farage to Kronos devouring his children for fear that they might surpass him.

00:21:40.880 I thought that was a beautiful reference.

00:21:42.280 I mean, that's exactly what he's doing.

00:21:43.880 The other thing that I find interesting is, and Morgoth sort of makes his point quite well, is so the Hillary Clinton thing of dumping on the online rights.

00:21:54.380 So the online rights are out, Tories and Lib Dems are in.

00:21:58.940 We'll cover this more in my segment, but that's...

00:22:00.860 I think you will, yes.

00:22:01.940 Precisely one.

00:22:02.460 I think that's definitely a point to come back to.

00:22:05.440 The other thing that I found quite interesting, and maybe you'll pick up in your segment as well,

00:22:10.000 it's just the level of establishment support that reforms seem to be getting.

00:22:19.300 I mean, every day I'm seeing lifelong Tories coming out.

00:22:22.220 I mean, this is a full-page spread in, what was it, the Daily Express?

00:22:25.800 Yep.

00:22:26.620 You know, basically explaining why everybody needs to get behind Nigel Farage.

00:22:30.620 So I think this is actually quite straightforwardly explainable.

00:22:34.380 Look at the framing of the reform party.

00:22:38.600 Whenever you want to reform something, that is to say, this thing is valid, it is useful, it's good, we want to keep this.

00:22:43.620 However, there are problems with it, exigencies with it, that need to be changed,

00:22:47.000 and therefore it needs reform if we want it to continue into the future.

00:22:49.900 And so what Farage is saying is, look, we need to carry on the Liberal order,

00:22:54.580 but I'm a necessary corrective to that Liberal order, which is, I mean, honestly,

00:22:59.200 I don't even know what he's going to do differently to the Labour Party.

00:23:01.960 Yes.

00:23:02.600 Like, you know, Keir Starmer is that necessary corrective,

00:23:06.020 and he is actually going through the stages of what actually needs to be done to preserve the order,

00:23:10.300 which is not good, because, of course, this current order is destroying the country.

00:23:14.120 But Farage is not presenting himself as a threat to the system, he is presenting himself as the saviour of the system.

00:23:21.960 Well, yes, I mean, that's the interesting thing.

00:23:23.660 I mean, we've ended up in a situation where every single party does the opposite of what its name says.

00:23:29.880 So the Conservatives aren't conserving anything.

00:23:32.160 Labour do not represent Labour, they represent people on benefits. 1.00

00:23:36.760 The Liberal Democrats are not democratic, they want to overturn Brexit,

00:23:39.800 and reform has no interest in reforming anything.

00:23:42.120 Or reforming itself.

00:23:43.100 Yes.

00:23:44.520 Well, reform is unreformable.

00:23:46.000 Yes.

00:23:46.620 It's literally unreformable.

00:23:47.980 I don't know why every single party needs to do the absolute opposite of everything it says.

00:23:53.840 Nick Dixon.

00:23:55.320 He was quite funny.

00:23:56.500 He is funny.

00:23:57.300 Friend of the show, he points out,

00:23:58.720 tired of being called racist by our progressive political elites,

00:24:01.740 now you can be called racist by the new popular uprising.

00:24:04.940 That's great.

00:24:05.640 That's done it really well as well.

00:24:07.100 That's a good tweet.

00:24:09.240 But, yeah, it's just...

00:24:11.100 It's literally where we're at.

00:24:14.720 The year is 20...

00:24:15.400 I tweeted this out.

00:24:16.080 The year is 2029, and Prime Minister Nigel Farage is calling you a racist for not wanting unlimited Islamic immigration.

00:24:21.560 Actually, no, you were quite good on this.

00:24:23.200 Yeah.

00:24:23.320 You said in the office about a week ago, it's only a matter of time before Nigel Farage calls Lowe a racist.

00:24:31.040 And he obviously wanted to.

00:24:33.620 Yeah.

00:24:33.940 And he couldn't quite do it, because he knows that Lowe would sue the arse off him if he did it.

00:24:38.760 And so he's probably been scratching his head for the last week, thinking,

00:24:42.780 OK, how can I know what I'll do?

00:24:45.140 I'll call all of the people that are supporting him racist, and by implication, that will rub off on Lowe.

00:24:50.140 There we go.

00:24:51.940 Brilliant.

00:24:52.560 Very cunning, Nigel.

00:24:53.620 Well done.

00:24:55.400 Where has this got to?

00:24:56.540 Because, obviously, when you deploy the R-bomb, that's been deployed against Nigel in the past.

00:25:04.520 In fact, didn't Catherine Blakelock on our website, she wrote, it was a brilliant article,

00:25:08.160 where she basically explained that it was in the early 2000s, Farage wrote an article in which he blamed Romanians.

00:25:16.060 No, it was 2015, when he was saying how an unlimited number of Romanians and Hungarians, or Bulgarians,

00:25:22.460 will be able to come over, and the media rounded on him as a racist, and he was taken aback.

00:25:27.560 Yes.

00:25:28.100 Well, because calling a boomer a racist is probably the worst thing you can do to them.

00:25:31.500 Yeah, it's calling them a Nazi, as far as they're concerned.

00:25:35.240 So he was deeply rattled in 2015 by suggesting that Romanians commit more crime, which they do. 1.00

00:25:43.160 Also, they're white. 0.97

00:25:46.080 They're white Europeans. 0.98

00:25:46.640 Yes, but people on the left, they throw air on the term racist all the time.

00:25:51.800 Yeah, but like they're literally white Europeans. 0.87

00:25:54.480 Yes.

00:25:56.780 Romanians are not brown. 0.82

00:25:58.140 But he was so scarred and beaten from having been called racist.

00:26:05.680 Everyone knows I've got Romanian friends, and they're like, yeah, well, you know, they're

00:26:08.960 going to commit more.

00:26:10.020 They know, they're not going to tell you that they're not going to.

00:26:14.220 But he was so scarred and beaten from having been called racist that he remembered it,

00:26:21.380 and he thought, that's a powerful weapon.

00:26:23.860 Oh, yeah.

00:26:24.300 And I'm going to use that in the future.

00:26:26.520 And he's been waiting for it, and he's deployed it, and everybody's like, oh, no, I don't care.

00:26:32.140 Yeah, well...

00:26:33.020 Nigel Lowe doesn't care.

00:26:34.060 I like his point here as well.

00:26:35.600 It's like, well, none of you people in the media seem to care.

00:26:37.500 It's like, oh, my God, Nigel, you're on the cusp of a revelation.

00:26:40.180 Yeah, they only used it for the people they like, and they don't use it indiscriminately

00:26:45.320 for the people they don't like, because actually, they don't care, Nigel.

00:26:49.780 Actually, they were just using it as a weapon to beat you.

00:26:53.260 I think the key thing that Nigel needs to understand is politics is basically friend-enemy distinction,

00:26:59.160 and it's that simple.

00:27:00.280 If you're an enemy, they're just going to call you names.

00:27:03.760 It is now.

00:27:03.860 It is absolutely now.

00:27:04.720 It didn't used to be.

00:27:05.380 You can go back.

00:27:06.220 You can find, like, you know, through the 70s and 80s and 60s, like, all of these really

00:27:10.160 genteel conversations between people on different sides of the aisle, and that's when they

00:27:15.400 all agreed, no, we are all on the same team, and then the 2000s happened, and the left were

00:27:20.380 like, but what if we don't agree we're on the same team?

00:27:22.360 What if we hate you and want you dead, and we've got a word that we can use against you 0.99

00:27:26.640 indiscriminately, and bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, look at you. 1.00

00:27:28.500 You're all racist and transphobes, and so it becomes friend-enemy if you've got one 0.97

00:27:33.180 faction of your politics that is not prepared to play nice with the rest, and Nigel doesn't 0.95

00:27:37.920 seem to understand that that's where we are.

00:27:39.540 So what might be quite interesting to watch, and we'll round off on this, is that Farage

00:27:45.740 obviously thought, look, I've got this superweapon.

00:27:48.300 I'm going to deploy the R-bomb, and as soon as I do, I'm basically going to win. 1.00

00:27:53.820 Anyway, so he broke out the weapon, and nothing happened.

00:27:58.540 And this is, can we play this video?

00:28:00.980 This is him after he's deployed the R-bomb, and he's confused, and he doesn't know what's

00:28:05.680 going on, because Rupert Lowe is still being brought up, and he can't handle it.

00:28:10.420 Let's watch this.

00:28:12.300 As the questions went on, people started asking more about Rupert Lowe, and how shall I put

00:28:18.440 it, Nigel Farage was getting increasingly frustrated with some of the journalists.

00:28:23.720 Hi, Nigel.

00:28:24.220 Rupert Lowe's threatened legal action.

00:28:25.620 Good.

00:28:25.780 It's interesting whether you'd be prepared to fight him in court on that, if he took

00:28:29.980 you to court, would you fight him in court?

00:28:30.620 I shall look forward to it, thank you.

00:28:32.500 Nigel, just quickly on the same issues, Amy here.

00:28:36.000 Do you think that Rupert Lowe is responsible for...

00:28:37.720 Oh, sorry.

00:28:38.600 Yes.

00:28:39.080 Sorry, Rupert did say that he was asked to tone down his speech on that.

00:28:48.140 He seems rattled.

00:28:49.940 He is a bit rattled.

00:28:51.600 Well, and notice this sort of solipsistic boomer mindset, right?

00:28:56.860 Yep.

00:28:57.380 It's one thing to say to the left, oh, allegations are racism, because he's used this before against

00:29:01.460 the left, whereas like, boring, you know, and carried on.

00:29:04.420 Yeah.

00:29:04.780 Yeah, and that's fine, because it is boring when the left are constantly just calling everyone

00:29:08.520 a racist or a trans or a sexist, whatever, under the sun forever.

00:29:11.740 But that's not what's happening here. 0.85

00:29:13.440 Yes.

00:29:13.860 No.

00:29:14.680 This is a genuine set of concerns by your own supporters.

00:29:19.260 I mean, these are telegraph journalists.

00:29:20.520 Yes.

00:29:21.140 These aren't like, you know, Guardian journos or something, who have come with some insane,

00:29:25.240 arcane, obtuse interpretation of something you've said to suggest that you hate every 0.79

00:29:30.060 brown person who's ever walked the earth or something. 0.94

00:29:32.120 No, that's not what's happening here.

00:29:33.540 You made a bunch of false allegations against Rupert Lowe.

00:29:36.640 They evaporated into air almost instantly.

00:29:39.460 And so now you're trying to avoid having to talk about your bad behavior to one of your

00:29:43.840 MPs, because he seemed like a threat to your position as the leader of the party.

00:29:47.380 But it's so transparently that.

00:29:48.760 It's so transparently that.

00:29:50.040 Yes.

00:29:50.360 And so again, well, this is boring.

00:29:51.500 It's like, yeah, but you are the one on the hook for mistreating someone who didn't

00:29:55.200 deserve it, Nigel.

00:29:56.140 And then he tries to join the oppression Olympics by getting himself on the victim hierarchy

00:30:02.520 stack.

00:30:03.140 Yeah. 0.92

00:30:03.740 I will hold Zia Yusuf in front of me and say, look, you're just a racist towards him.

00:30:07.460 He's my brown totem of magical power. 0.53

00:30:09.920 Yeah.

00:30:10.100 As if that's anything to do with Rupert Lowe.

00:30:11.960 Come on.

00:30:12.560 But he's discovered that that magic doesn't work in his hands.

00:30:15.040 Well, it never does for the right, because the right doesn't sincerely believe it.

00:30:18.260 Yes.

00:30:18.680 He doesn't think that every Muslim in Britain is being oppressed by the nature of them being

00:30:22.020 in Britain.

00:30:22.620 Right.

00:30:23.100 And so you can't invoke these spells without the genuine, sincere power that you would

00:30:28.760 need to draw on.

00:30:29.580 And he can't do that because he's not a leftist.

00:30:31.580 Well, yet.

00:30:32.980 Not like a true leftist, you know.

00:30:35.040 It requires true leftism to sit there and go, well, you are.

00:30:37.680 You know, he can't summon it up.

00:30:40.220 Yeah.

00:30:40.520 You can't.

00:30:41.160 So, yes, obviously an issue there.

00:30:43.340 I suppose it leads us into the question of what sort of party the reform needs to be.

00:30:48.020 It does.

00:30:48.520 But we'll go through some super chats first.

00:30:49.880 Oh, yes.

00:30:51.280 So, Ramshack Lott says, I watched this clown show live and the comments were being deleted. 0.85

00:30:55.580 Absolute savage.

00:30:56.920 As an avalanche calling for Zia to go and Rupert to return, Nigel has tanked his career.

00:31:00.620 Yeah, tanked his last career his own.

00:31:03.020 So, that's interesting because he literally can't throw Zia under the bus, right? 0.99

00:31:06.720 He can't do it.

00:31:07.800 Zia Youssef has as much power and control over reform as Nigel Farage does. 0.70

00:31:12.080 Weird that he got given that power all of a sudden out of nowhere.

00:31:15.360 Well, it was previously in the Brexit party, after Nigel had consolidated control, him and

00:31:21.920 Richard Tice.

00:31:22.880 So, it's weird that Tice has been sidelined in this.

00:31:25.320 So, Tice has been superseded for Nigel's token person.

00:31:31.240 But Alex says, too late.

00:31:32.740 I've portrayed you as the racist soyjack and me as the gigatrad, said Nigel.

00:31:36.380 The Engaged Few says, amazing.

00:31:38.440 I didn't even touch it.

00:31:40.580 And Macabic says, I landed to these shores as a regulated professional.

00:31:44.720 And the lady at the job center looked at me like I spat on her when I told her I came 1.00

00:31:47.760 for work, not charity.

00:31:51.020 I believe it.

00:31:51.860 I genuinely believe it.

00:31:53.280 And he says, Islander is a great read and look.

00:31:56.120 Well, thank you very much.

00:31:57.900 Right.

00:31:58.280 So, the question that everyone is asking is, what kind of party is reform trying to be?

00:32:06.640 And it's very difficult to establish this because Nigel Farage seems to have, well, no

00:32:10.960 doctrine.

00:32:11.800 He has no particular, not even ideology.

00:32:16.180 I mean, an ideology is a useful thing if you're a political party because it informs what you

00:32:21.320 authentically believe and what you will do when you gain power.

00:32:26.000 And it also prescribes to you the boundaries of what is, you know, friend and enemy.

00:32:31.540 Yes and no.

00:32:32.500 And Nigel has nothing of this sort.

00:32:35.420 Well, I kind of get the impression that he's kind of taken week old Thatcherite policy,

00:32:42.160 rewarmed it in the microwave, and it's not quite as good as it should be.

00:32:45.280 But he's making do with that.

00:32:46.360 But that's about as far as I can get with his political ideology.

00:32:50.700 That's as far as anyone can get.

00:32:52.600 Because it seems that Nigel, obviously, he's a free marketeer, I guess, but he never talks

00:32:57.080 about it, really.

00:32:57.680 I mean, he makes overtures in that direction.

00:33:01.200 He's kind of an Essex man, I suppose.

00:33:03.280 Yeah.

00:33:03.580 You know, but it's hard to say.

00:33:05.980 And this puts him in, I mean, in one way, it's advantageous because he can morph into whatever

00:33:13.980 he needs to be for whatever given audience that he's talking to.

00:33:17.440 But in another way, it's a series of weaknesses because it doesn't give you an affirmative

00:33:21.980 position to strike from.

00:33:24.600 So it doesn't give you something consistent and intellectual that people can actually dive

00:33:29.220 into.

00:33:29.500 It doesn't underpin your movement with a philosophy.

00:33:32.520 And so it's hard to see why people...

00:33:34.600 But has he even been trying to do it?

00:33:35.860 Because I think his approach has been, I want to sell you myself.

00:33:40.840 Do you like me?

00:33:42.620 If you do, then vote for me.

00:33:44.180 Yes.

00:33:44.500 But he's not saying, let's sign up to this, to a set of ideals like you're talking about.

00:33:49.320 But this is why Rupert Lowe's critique that, well, it's still kind of a protest party,

00:33:53.400 right?

00:33:53.540 It doesn't really have an agenda and a policy.

00:33:55.820 It is, we are not them, therefore vote for us.

00:33:58.860 And that seems to be all Nigel Farage is coasting on at this point.

00:34:01.940 But anyway, so if you want to learn anything about philosophy and where we ought to go

00:34:07.880 as a country, go and get Islander. 0.98

00:34:09.040 It's only on sale for, I think, a week, but I don't even know if the socks will last that

00:34:12.300 long.

00:34:12.900 So get it while you still can, because once it's gone, it's gone forever.

00:34:17.020 We're not reprinting them or anything.

00:34:18.980 And trust me, it's worth your time.

00:34:21.080 It's amazing.

00:34:22.600 We haven't had a single bad review of the contents of the magazine.

00:34:26.820 It's just...

00:34:27.300 Beautifully designed.

00:34:27.920 But the article's just superb.

00:34:30.080 You'll really enjoy them.

00:34:32.180 Anyway, so Nigel Farage did a press conference, if I could get to it, which I can't.

00:34:38.160 He did a press conference yesterday announcing 29 defections from other parties.

00:34:46.200 I just want to see if you can get the...

00:34:47.880 There we go.

00:34:50.500 There's the sort of...

00:34:51.940 There's the arrangement.

00:34:52.840 So you can see there's the speaker and a bunch of chairs behind them that are filled by

00:34:59.480 various defectors.

00:35:01.020 Like, this is some sort of sixth form conference or something.

00:35:04.320 It looks like in school.

00:35:05.460 Here's the members who are being...

00:35:07.500 You know, here are the people who got awards at school or something.

00:35:10.300 Very peculiar.

00:35:12.660 So defectors from other parties.

00:35:14.700 Yes.

00:35:15.140 Now, there's something to say about defectors from other parties.

00:35:18.100 It's never really good to have a turncoat, right?

00:35:21.380 If they've defected to you, well, what's stopping them defecting somewhere else?

00:35:25.000 Yes.

00:35:25.380 Right?

00:35:25.640 This is the...

00:35:27.060 I mean, like, Genghis Khan wasn't having defectors, right?

00:35:29.640 And he...

00:35:30.280 No, unironically, Alexander the Great didn't have defectors.

00:35:34.980 So Darius III, Alexander's chasing him across Persia after crushing him in battles. 0.78

00:35:41.040 And Bessus, one of his closest lieutenants, betrays him and goes to give him to Alexander.

00:35:46.780 And Alexander's like, oh, I'm not having that.

00:35:49.020 We're going to kill Bessus now then instead, right? 0.61

00:35:51.220 Because he killed Darius. 0.87

00:35:53.080 Genghis Khan did the same thing with various enemies of his.

00:35:56.640 You don't want a turncoat.

00:35:57.980 Like, when Caesar's chasing Pompey the Great across the Mediterranean and he goes to Egypt

00:36:03.540 and the Egyptians cut off Pompey's head and give them to Caesar, Caesar has them crucified. 0.82

00:36:07.440 Like, no, you don't have turncoats because turncoats are not trustworthy.

00:36:11.060 They're the people around your enemy and the people closest to him that you're supposed

00:36:14.940 to be able to trust.

00:36:15.720 And if they betray him, they'll betray you just as quickly.

00:36:18.520 You know, they have no loyalty to you.

00:36:20.780 What they are is afraid of you.

00:36:23.120 And so that's why...

00:36:24.280 Yes, better to make terms.

00:36:25.460 Exactly.

00:36:25.760 As far as they're concerned, it's just, well, this is where the power is, you know,

00:36:29.120 rather than, you know, being loyal and standing on a point of principle or something like that.

00:36:32.300 No.

00:36:32.500 So a turncoat is never a good thing, right?

00:36:34.820 So adopting...

00:36:36.360 I'm not saying you can't take, you know, turncoats.

00:36:38.780 I'm not saying that there aren't people who are genuine or anything like that.

00:36:41.520 I mean, it's still a process.

00:36:42.380 You can still be in one party.

00:36:43.920 You can leave it.

00:36:44.860 Sure.

00:36:45.180 You can then return to the political fray another time, having evolved your politics.

00:36:48.780 That's fine.

00:36:49.340 Exactly.

00:36:50.240 It's not...

00:36:50.960 In situ, yeah.

00:36:51.860 Yeah.

00:36:52.200 It's not that there's...

00:36:53.360 It's a hard line.

00:36:54.580 It's always bad to, you know, move from one party to another.

00:36:57.880 But it's always a bit suspicious.

00:36:59.460 And it's always a bit...

00:37:00.220 It always comes with an air of untrustworthiness.

00:37:03.900 And so Nigel Ferrara is saying, well, look, look at all these turncoats I have.

00:37:06.800 It's like...

00:37:07.120 Well, are they all just Tory turncoats or...

00:37:09.240 No, no.

00:37:10.100 But we'll get into it.

00:37:11.160 So anyway, it's introduced by Zia Yusuf, who...

00:37:14.660 Oh, good.

00:37:15.500 No, no, which, you know, you would expect it as the party chairman.

00:37:19.000 You know, he's, you know, second in command of the party.

00:37:21.320 And he announces Nigel Farage as the next prime minister, which has got very much shades

00:37:27.360 of Hillary Clinton's, you know, congratulations on this next president. 1.00

00:37:30.360 It's like, don't count your chickens before they've hatched.

00:37:33.260 Because things aren't exactly going great in all respects.

00:37:36.900 And of course, Nigel Ferrara has come down and calls everyone a racist and being critical

00:37:40.440 of Zia Yusuf, even though there seem to be many valid criticisms of Zia Yusuf.

00:37:45.860 I personally haven't made that many criticisms of Zia Yusuf, actually, because, like, Nigel

00:37:50.780 has chosen him for a reason.

00:37:52.940 Well, first of all, I don't know anything about him.

00:37:54.640 Well, there is that.

00:37:55.360 Because he appeared out of nowhere, inorganically.

00:37:58.060 Yep.

00:37:58.620 Bought his way into the party.

00:37:59.240 And even if he is everything that they all say is, yeah, but whose judgment is faulty there?

00:38:05.160 Well, the guy who said, that's the man I want.

00:38:07.840 Exactly.

00:38:08.700 You know, like, Richard Tice has many problems, but his problems aren't he is a Machiavellian

00:38:16.040 who will purge all of Nigel Farage's closest supporters, right?

00:38:20.000 Richard Tice's problems are he's morally weak and he's a bit of a boomer, right?

00:38:23.940 Yes.

00:38:24.400 But he's not evil and he's not, like, someone I don't trust.

00:38:29.040 I know what Richard Tice is like.

00:38:30.800 And I actually don't even mind Richard Tice, to be honest.

00:38:32.680 And I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for him for being sidelined.

00:38:36.180 Reformers, his party, he kept it alive.

00:38:37.760 Oh, I'm sure he'd make a perfectly serviceable bank manager.

00:38:40.560 Sure.

00:38:41.120 Or backbench MP, even.

00:38:42.740 Yeah, yeah, sure.

00:38:43.560 It's totally fine.

00:38:44.580 Yeah.

00:38:45.400 Richard, Rupert Tice is not, doesn't give off, like, you know, sinister vibes.

00:38:50.240 No, not at all, no.

00:38:50.940 But I think a lot of people are getting sinister vibes out of Zia Yusuf, especially the way

00:38:54.100 Zia can just drop the hammer on, like, Gwain Towler being sacked. 1.00

00:38:58.220 Gwain Towler's been with Nigel Farage for, like, 30 years, right?

00:39:01.020 Like, never a more loyal friend.

00:39:02.900 And he's still now doing the media beat for free, defending Nigel Farage, right?

00:39:07.880 That, I think, is genuinely admirable.

00:39:10.140 And I feel, honestly, I've met Gwain a bunch of times.

00:39:12.960 He's a really nice guy.

00:39:14.060 I feel genuinely bad for what Zia did to him, which is fire him. 0.93

00:39:18.560 There was no need for that.

00:39:19.900 You know, now they've replaced him with, you know, some guy who's got scandals.

00:39:23.480 You know, he said some crazy stuff, and it doesn't matter.

00:39:25.980 We're just going to ignore that.

00:39:26.960 But Gwain has never done anything like that.

00:39:28.400 He's been nothing but Farage's most loyal soldier.

00:39:31.120 And it's just like, I don't understand how Nigel can accept that.

00:39:33.960 But, okay, here we go.

00:39:34.900 Here we are.

00:39:36.000 And so, anyway, in this, Nigel gives a speech.

00:39:38.020 He says, look, we need some old lags.

00:39:39.900 We need some people who have been in council and know what they're doing.

00:39:41.920 It's like, Nigel, you had dozens and dozens of them.

00:39:46.100 You had dozens.

00:39:47.540 Right?

00:39:47.760 All from you.

00:39:48.280 UKIP had hundreds of councillors, probably thousands of councillors, actually.

00:39:52.320 Dozens of MEPs over the years.

00:39:54.180 A couple of MPs.

00:39:55.240 But he gave them the whole deplorable treatment as well.

00:39:56.980 Exactly.

00:39:57.440 You know, an MP in Douglas Carswell.

00:39:59.400 You know, like, you had lots of old lags.

00:40:02.280 And if you were able to build a coalition of people who liked and trusted and respected,

00:40:06.020 you would have no problem finding manpower.

00:40:08.760 Right?

00:40:09.160 You wouldn't have to recruit from the enemy's ranks.

00:40:11.820 But here he is, and he's got no choice.

00:40:15.440 Anyway, so, a bunch of the journalists were asking, I don't know why that's not on there,

00:40:21.680 but anyway, a bunch of the journalists were asking, well, will Rupert Lowe come back?

00:40:25.980 And the answer was, no.

00:40:27.380 Right?

00:40:28.040 Faraj said, of course, we'll wait and see what the results of the investigation are.

00:40:32.460 But the investigation isn't, Rupert Lowe isn't under investigation.

00:40:37.140 Yes.

00:40:37.600 Right?

00:40:38.040 So the two women who are making, I mean, the only allegation is from Zia Yusuf,

00:40:41.560 and that seems to have gone very quiet.

00:40:45.720 Like, you know, Zia's not prosecuting this case in public.

00:40:48.640 Right?

00:40:49.040 He's not saying, well, Rupert Lowe did this to me and therefore we've put it to him.

00:40:52.420 Nothing's being said about that.

00:40:53.640 What's being said is everyone's being racist to Zia,

00:40:55.700 so I'm not going to throw him under the bus.

00:40:56.940 Right?

00:40:57.100 That's the indication.

00:40:57.860 He's not going to throw him under the bus.

00:40:59.260 The two women's allegations against Rupert Lowe's office,

00:41:02.840 not Rupert Lowe himself, have come out in defense of Rupert Lowe.

00:41:05.420 It's not going anywhere.

00:41:06.460 There's nothing to do.

00:41:08.260 Oh, it's quite transparent.

00:41:09.520 Let's wait and see.

00:41:10.220 Obviously, this is not happening.

00:41:12.560 Right?

00:41:12.780 So don't worry about that.

00:41:14.780 Moving on then, who has Nigel Farage brought into the party?

00:41:18.540 Now, he's brought in a bunch of conservatives,

00:41:21.040 because in one of these interviews, he said,

00:41:24.140 well, the conservatives aren't doing what I think they ought to do,

00:41:28.820 and therefore they need to be replaced.

00:41:30.980 And it's like, right.

00:41:31.580 So Nigel consciously sees himself as a replacement for the conservative party.

00:41:36.560 Yes.

00:41:37.200 Okay.

00:41:38.100 Perfectly.

00:41:38.540 I mean, it's his choice.

00:41:40.700 It's not one.

00:41:41.560 Don't get me wrong.

00:41:41.980 The conservative party does need replacing,

00:41:44.320 just not with an exact copy of the conservative party.

00:41:49.260 Yeah.

00:41:49.660 I mean, I certainly looked at this originally as I was hoping for a genuine right-wing party.

00:41:56.600 I was not looking for copy-and-paste conservatives to delete the old one.

00:42:02.380 Yeah, everyone was.

00:42:03.700 Yeah.

00:42:05.260 And the thing is, there's been a bit of, you know,

00:42:09.100 Sheldon Freud on the part of people who have been like,

00:42:11.100 no, Nigel Farage is bad.

00:42:12.120 And we all knew that he had the potential to go this direction.

00:42:15.680 Nigel Farage isn't, like, super-based.

00:42:17.500 But he could have had the potential to go the other way.

00:42:19.700 And I guess, like, Schrodinger's Farage,

00:42:21.600 we've opened the box and now we see that the based Farage is dead

00:42:25.280 and we've got the cucked Farage, unfortunately.

00:42:26.840 But the thing is, like, him taking conservative councillors,

00:42:30.480 this is fairly straightforward and what you would expect is another conservative councillor.

00:42:35.700 And it's not intrinsically bad.

00:42:38.760 Well, there are plenty of conservatives who want a genuine right-wing party.

00:42:42.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:42:43.260 There are plenty of conservatives who want a genuinely right-wing party.

00:42:47.080 So a conservative turncoat to a more conservative party is actually, that's fine.

00:42:53.040 Yeah, I'm not going to give them the hard time over that.

00:42:54.480 No, exactly. That's fine. That's what you would expect, in fact.

00:42:58.660 And there's nothing wrong with that, right?

00:43:00.680 But then you get the first Liberal Democrat and it's like, okay, right.

00:43:04.860 I can see the argument here for why a Liberal Democrat would want to join a reform.

00:43:10.020 Now, this is Mr. Brexit.

00:43:11.520 Liberal Democrats were leading the charge to rejoin the European Union and overturn Brexit.

00:43:16.460 But, okay, if you accept that that issue's done,

00:43:19.000 Liberal Democrats, the voters and their membership, don't hate Britain.

00:43:23.460 They're not the Labour Party.

00:43:25.380 Yes, that's true.

00:43:26.260 They actually, they're sort of, you know, the sort of upper-middle class strata

00:43:30.360 who are doing quite well out of Britain, even as it crumbles.

00:43:34.120 And this is why, in like the South West, the Liberal Democrats have got a stronghold

00:43:37.460 because we've had less immigration than, say, the Midlands

00:43:40.340 and we don't have as much exposure to the problems that multiculturalism brought.

00:43:45.940 Given their credit, they were also very sensible over COVID.

00:43:48.500 They were very sensible over COVID.

00:43:49.720 And they're not, like I said, they're not people who hate Britain.

00:43:52.680 What they are is just remote.

00:43:55.020 And so the closer the machetes get to their nice, leafy suburbs,

00:43:58.880 the more Lib Dems were like, actually, maybe we need, maybe,

00:44:01.460 maybe Farage's got a point on some of this, right?

00:44:03.840 So I can even see Lib Dems coming over.

00:44:06.760 I mean, this is a guy called Councillor Reg Cain, who says...

00:44:10.060 He doesn't look like a Reg.

00:44:11.160 Yeah, he joined Reform because he believes it's the only mainstream party at this time

00:44:14.080 that is genuinely listening to the concerns and needs of the British people.

00:44:16.540 So, again, they're not anti-patriotic.

00:44:18.780 What they are is kind of up their own rear ends.

00:44:21.720 But that's fine.

00:44:23.120 I can accept a Lib Dem.

00:44:25.820 Fair enough.

00:44:26.660 Okay.

00:44:27.060 Even, you know, in the most sort of extremity of it.

00:44:29.860 But then it gets really weird.

00:44:31.520 So he took this lady called Mandy Clare,

00:44:34.040 who, as he says, a former Labour councillor,

00:44:36.740 which is a sus thing to be in any case,

00:44:39.600 who left the party to campaign against transgender ideology.

00:44:42.680 Right. 0.99

00:44:43.260 So she's a TERF. 0.73

00:44:46.540 But, one thing to remember

00:44:48.800 is that these people were as radically left-wing as any other leftist.

00:44:53.740 They just got to the point where it's like,

00:44:55.040 oh, right, so I, as a woman,

00:44:56.720 have to give up my spaces away from men 0.99

00:44:58.860 in order to be properly left-wing.

00:45:01.120 Well, therefore, I enjoyed all of the left-wing deconstruction

00:45:04.580 right up until this point that it...

00:45:06.700 Now, I have to sacrifice something.

00:45:08.420 Yes, women should be in men's spaces. 1.00

00:45:10.380 Yes, women should have this. 1.00

00:45:11.440 Yes, women should have women's-only shortlists. 0.99

00:45:13.020 Yes, men should, you know, not have men's-only clubs.

00:45:15.580 Yes, yes, yes.

00:45:16.200 Oh, not now.

00:45:17.800 And so, unsurprisingly,

00:45:20.140 like, she's been in every communist party in Britain.

00:45:23.600 Right.

00:45:24.060 Since being elected in 2019,

00:45:25.860 she's represented the Labour Party,

00:45:28.460 the Socialist Labour Party,

00:45:30.080 the Winsford Salt of the Earth,

00:45:31.520 and then the Party of Women.

00:45:32.540 I think she was also in the Workers' Party at one point as well.

00:45:35.980 So George Galloway...

00:45:36.720 And she's now in reform. 0.95

00:45:38.660 And now she's in reform. 0.99

00:45:39.820 And to the point where Nigel Farage

00:45:42.060 wanted to put his arm around her on a stage

00:45:43.960 with the press.

00:45:45.380 Yeah.

00:45:45.800 Okay.

00:45:46.660 So, I mean...

00:45:49.220 Yes.

00:45:49.760 Just saying, I'm not saying...

00:45:51.640 It's not a good look.

00:45:52.280 I'm not saying she can't have become conservative

00:45:54.760 or right-wing or something like that.

00:45:56.160 It doesn't seem likely.

00:45:57.320 I do find it unlikely.

00:45:59.780 I mean, of course, Claire Fox,

00:46:01.240 you know, joined the Brexit Party,

00:46:03.660 but at least the Brexit Party was a single issue.

00:46:06.080 It was, do you...

00:46:07.720 Because the old-fashioned socialists

00:46:10.320 were actually quite sensible on

00:46:12.300 not liking Europe as well.

00:46:14.540 Yes.

00:46:14.900 They wanted...

00:46:15.560 They said, okay,

00:46:16.120 we should be sovereign in Britain. 1.00

00:46:18.600 We should just do mad communist shit 1.00

00:46:20.360 when we're sovereign in Britain. 1.00

00:46:22.200 So I don't have an issue

00:46:23.360 with somebody like Claire Fox

00:46:24.240 joining the Brexit Party.

00:46:25.500 Well, the old socialists,

00:46:27.140 and Corbyn was among them,

00:46:28.320 hated the European Union

00:46:29.600 because it's obviously a giant

00:46:31.100 corporatist neoliberal protection racket, right?

00:46:33.360 Yeah, ruled by merchants.

00:46:34.280 Exactly.

00:46:34.720 100%.

00:46:35.520 And yeah, they hate this.

00:46:37.900 Fair enough.

00:46:38.580 They want the complete opposite

00:46:39.520 of what we want,

00:46:40.440 but at least they understood

00:46:41.420 that this was an enemy

00:46:42.780 to the way things could...

00:46:44.520 Reform is not supposed to be

00:46:45.440 a single issue thing.

00:46:46.280 It's supposed to be

00:46:46.680 a genuine right-wing party,

00:46:48.280 and that's a bit incompatible

00:46:49.460 with having a socialist workers' party

00:46:51.320 form a member.

00:46:52.780 That's certainly how

00:46:53.720 Nigel Farage branded it.

00:46:55.200 You remember his

00:46:55.800 Breaking Point poster

00:46:56.740 where he's got the line

00:46:58.120 of angry young men

00:46:59.820 from the Middle East

00:47:00.740 walking through Europe,

00:47:01.620 and he's like,

00:47:01.920 this is coming,

00:47:02.900 we need to get out

00:47:04.280 of the European Union

00:47:05.680 so this can't arrive here.

00:47:07.200 So it's not like Nigel Farage...

00:47:08.500 And when Nigel Farage

00:47:09.840 came back to campaign

00:47:10.780 in Clacton,

00:47:11.640 he said,

00:47:12.080 I'm going to turn this

00:47:12.940 into a referendum

00:47:14.760 on immigration.

00:47:15.980 This is going to be

00:47:16.360 a single issue election

00:47:17.320 on immigration.

00:47:18.220 Very hard on it,

00:47:19.220 and now he seems to be

00:47:20.940 getting a lot softer

00:47:21.740 on this, right?

00:47:22.640 So, interesting

00:47:23.520 that he's managed

00:47:25.680 to get what I would

00:47:27.360 guess is a literal communist.

00:47:29.700 Right, okay.

00:47:30.660 Or at least a socialist

00:47:31.720 into reform.

00:47:35.060 So, good.

00:47:36.700 I hope it doesn't get

00:47:37.300 any worse than this.

00:47:38.460 Yeah, well,

00:47:38.940 it's a bit strange

00:47:40.320 because then he got

00:47:41.980 this Manzir Hassan chap

00:47:43.680 who's an independent

00:47:44.880 on Lincoln County Council.

00:47:46.720 independent Muslim MP.

00:47:50.140 Right.

00:47:50.860 Councillor, sorry.

00:47:52.300 Interesting.

00:47:53.840 So, he happens to be

00:47:55.620 like a rabid

00:47:56.660 Bangladeshi nationalist

00:47:57.800 because he's an immigrant

00:48:00.220 and he doesn't seem

00:48:02.300 to have integrated

00:48:03.080 brilliantly.

00:48:03.820 Wait, wait.

00:48:04.220 So, Nigel isn't

00:48:05.200 automatically against

00:48:06.660 nationalists.

00:48:08.160 Only English nationalists.

00:48:10.200 Yeah.

00:48:11.760 So, you could be

00:48:12.660 a Bangladeshi nationalist

00:48:14.500 and Nigel Farage

00:48:15.440 likes that.

00:48:16.720 You just can't be

00:48:17.380 an English nationalist.

00:48:18.260 Yeah, as Maya's got to admit,

00:48:19.520 this is only from 2023, right?

00:48:21.720 This is not exactly

00:48:22.440 ancient history post.

00:48:24.220 Him on Facebook,

00:48:25.700 celebrating the victory day

00:48:26.640 at TSC Dhaka University

00:48:28.220 where I belong.

00:48:29.560 A proud moment

00:48:30.200 to be part of the legacy

00:48:31.080 and spirit of freedom.

00:48:31.940 I assume this is

00:48:32.440 Bangladeshi Independence Day.

00:48:34.320 Feeling incredibly lucky

00:48:35.520 and patriotic

00:48:36.360 with a Bangladeshi flag.

00:48:38.260 It's like, right, okay.

00:48:39.800 Okay.

00:48:40.420 But then you've got like

00:48:41.400 people,

00:48:42.400 where are the other ones?

00:48:43.680 People were posting

00:48:44.360 other ones.

00:48:44.720 There we go.

00:48:45.400 Again, this is from 2024.

00:48:47.620 It's deeply distressing

00:48:48.580 to witness

00:48:49.200 the increasing wave

00:48:50.100 of blatant disrespect

00:48:50.820 to our teachers

00:48:51.840 in Bangladesh.

00:48:53.940 These teachers

00:48:54.660 are the backbone

00:48:55.080 of our society

00:48:55.660 responsible for shaping

00:48:56.440 the future of our nation.

00:48:58.140 This appalling behaviour

00:48:58.800 must be stopped immediately.

00:48:59.800 It goes against

00:49:00.560 the core values of respect

00:49:01.760 and honour

00:49:02.100 that are fundamental

00:49:02.560 to our culture.

00:49:04.020 The relentless dedication

00:49:04.840 to the progress

00:49:05.340 of our society.

00:49:06.500 Again, this was

00:49:07.020 August last year.

00:49:08.880 This is six months ago.

00:49:10.160 Like, and he's constantly

00:49:12.340 our country,

00:49:13.380 our this.

00:49:13.880 His hour is Bangladesh 0.99

00:49:15.480 and that's because

00:49:16.780 he's only been in Britain

00:49:17.780 for 15 years.

00:49:19.760 So all I want

00:49:20.720 is a political party

00:49:22.420 that I can vote for

00:49:23.520 that talks about that,

00:49:25.760 talks in that way

00:49:26.840 about this country.

00:49:29.080 Yes.

00:49:29.640 Why can't we have that?

00:49:31.620 That's racist.

00:49:32.220 And why isn't reform that?

00:49:35.120 That's a great question.

00:49:36.220 Why isn't reform that

00:49:37.560 for Bangladesh?

00:49:39.240 I can only assume

00:49:40.460 that Nigel Farage

00:49:41.080 would consider that

00:49:41.720 to be racist

00:49:42.280 in this country.

00:49:43.260 Well, yes.

00:49:43.880 But it's fine

00:49:44.640 for people in Bangladesh.

00:49:46.520 In fact, he's willing

00:49:47.340 to bring on

00:49:47.980 Bangladeshi nationalists.

00:49:49.480 And like I said,

00:49:49.900 I don't even begrudge

00:49:50.860 this guy his position

00:49:51.800 on Bangladesh.

00:49:53.140 No, you...

00:49:53.800 No, if you're Bangladeshi,

00:49:54.680 you can be pro-Bangladesh.

00:49:55.860 Exactly.

00:49:56.420 In fact, it'd be weird

00:49:57.540 if you weren't.

00:49:58.160 Yeah.

00:49:58.620 The question is,

00:49:59.380 why do you live in England

00:50:00.440 and why are you

00:50:01.800 a councillor here?

00:50:03.180 Like, that's the...

00:50:04.380 That's the...

00:50:04.920 And why are you

00:50:05.840 in reform?

00:50:06.680 Yeah, and then why are you

00:50:07.380 in purportedly

00:50:08.800 the right-wing party?

00:50:10.080 The far-right party

00:50:11.260 if you listen

00:50:11.720 to The Guardian.

00:50:12.760 Like, what sense

00:50:13.660 does that make?

00:50:14.640 And the answer is,

00:50:15.660 of course,

00:50:16.060 very little.

00:50:18.360 But, yeah,

00:50:19.660 so, you know,

00:50:20.460 bizarre.

00:50:21.440 And this meme

00:50:24.180 was going around

00:50:24.800 this morning

00:50:25.240 which frankly

00:50:26.500 seems to summarise it

00:50:27.580 and you mentioned it earlier.

00:50:28.660 You know, there are...

00:50:29.060 Oh, I wondered

00:50:29.460 how it got in my head.

00:50:30.240 It was one of your tweets.

00:50:31.180 Yes, yeah.

00:50:32.040 So apparently we've arrived

00:50:33.460 at the sixth left-wing party

00:50:35.220 which is now

00:50:35.800 the reform party.

00:50:36.160 Oh, brilliant.

00:50:37.280 Which is good.

00:50:38.680 And there are lots of

00:50:40.200 great memes going around.

00:50:43.140 You know,

00:50:43.380 Idi Amin,

00:50:43.920 reform candidate.

00:50:45.720 But, yeah,

00:50:46.460 so, very weird.

00:50:47.640 And you mentioned earlier

00:50:48.580 that the establishment

00:50:50.340 is coming out

00:50:50.920 in support of

00:50:52.400 Farage doing all this.

00:50:53.720 Well, why wouldn't it, right?

00:50:54.960 Nadine Doris,

00:50:55.980 hardcore Boris Partizan.

00:50:57.780 Yes.

00:50:57.960 She is,

00:50:58.780 and I mean hardcore.

00:51:00.000 She's written an entire book

00:51:01.000 directly in defence

00:51:02.700 of Boris Johnson,

00:51:03.600 in defence of his intervention

00:51:04.780 to continue the Ukraine war,

00:51:06.700 in defence of his immigration policies,

00:51:08.260 in defence of everything he's done.

00:51:09.860 And so she's come out

00:51:10.560 and gone,

00:51:10.780 well, Rupert Lowe, 0.97

00:51:12.180 oh, he's an evil, scary man. 0.98

00:51:13.860 He needs to head towards oblivion, 0.98

00:51:15.780 which is the best place for him.

00:51:17.940 I've completely lost track

00:51:19.340 of how many Tory establishment types

00:51:21.060 have come out to bat

00:51:21.760 for Nigel Farage

00:51:22.580 and it's a tiny, teeny bit

00:51:24.400 suspicious as to why.

00:51:26.020 It's because he is no different

00:51:28.020 to the Conservative Party

00:51:29.580 and will end up,

00:51:31.040 I mean, do you not remember

00:51:31.860 when Zee Yusuf first came on board?

00:51:34.660 People are like,

00:51:35.260 well, you know,

00:51:36.100 who's the Zee Yusuf?

00:51:36.860 He's like, I don't know,

00:51:37.360 maybe he's the next leader

00:51:38.140 of a reform party.

00:51:39.720 And so it's just like,

00:51:40.780 well, he's no different.

00:51:41.760 He wants, like,

00:51:43.280 he wants his Kemi Badenok 0.56

00:51:44.520 leading a reform party

00:51:45.700 because the boomers 0.94

00:51:46.940 see that as being legitimate.

00:51:48.880 Validation.

00:51:49.800 Absolutely.

00:51:50.200 And so that's what's going to happen

00:51:53.420 with reform, I think.

00:51:55.960 Matt says,

00:51:57.020 could Dan look at China's issues?

00:51:58.720 Subsidising goods

00:51:59.320 for local consumption,

00:52:00.600 locals documenting

00:52:01.360 significant population loss,

00:52:02.660 their two and a half year

00:52:03.440 deflationary cycle

00:52:04.280 and recruiting NATO military pilots.

00:52:07.560 That would be interesting.

00:52:09.440 Yeah.

00:52:09.780 I think about doing something like that.

00:52:11.140 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:11.740 Yeah, because I saw

00:52:12.520 that they were going to pay

00:52:13.300 ex-RAF pilots

00:52:14.800 quarter of a million

00:52:15.660 a year to train their pilots.

00:52:18.100 Well, we don't want them,

00:52:18.780 so why not?

00:52:19.140 Exactly.

00:52:20.420 We were like, 1.00

00:52:20.880 oh, these useless white males. 1.00

00:52:22.460 I was like, 1.00

00:52:22.860 well, China doesn't bloody think so.

00:52:25.060 I can't blame them

00:52:26.120 for going over there

00:52:26.640 because if you're not wanted here,

00:52:27.700 then fine.

00:52:28.140 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:28.640 Oh, they're going to pay you

00:52:29.240 a quarter of a million in China?

00:52:30.260 Yeah.

00:52:31.460 Fair enough.

00:52:31.940 How can you say no?

00:52:34.140 Mason says,

00:52:34.800 Starmer won by sitting on the sidelines,

00:52:36.200 hiding who he was truly

00:52:36.980 and letting the Tories

00:52:37.600 give him the win.

00:52:38.560 Farage is trying to repeat

00:52:39.420 the strategy,

00:52:40.000 but he's revealed

00:52:40.520 his true colours too early.

00:52:41.740 Yeah, I know.

00:52:42.120 This is why ZUSA being like, 0.87

00:52:43.300 oh, next Prime Minister,

00:52:44.100 Nigel Farage.

00:52:44.800 No, you've got four years yet.

00:52:46.180 Yep.

00:52:46.360 Four years is a long time in politics.

00:52:49.360 It took you three years

00:52:50.380 to get into the lead of the polls.

00:52:51.780 Who knows where you'll be?

00:52:52.680 So don't count your chickens.

00:52:54.260 But anyway,

00:52:54.640 let's carry on.

00:52:56.820 So as we know,

00:52:58.360 trying to save the world

00:53:00.480 has been a little bit expensive

00:53:01.600 for Elon Musk.

00:53:02.560 He had to spend

00:53:03.180 44 billion

00:53:04.180 to save free speech.

00:53:06.000 Yep.

00:53:06.140 And I don't know

00:53:08.100 if I'm really overstating it

00:53:09.280 because he kind of did.

00:53:11.060 You're not overstating it.

00:53:12.000 No, he kind of did.

00:53:14.260 And his next project

00:53:15.840 was to save

00:53:17.180 the United States government

00:53:18.300 from going bankrupt.

00:53:20.240 And the line is

00:53:21.100 where that's cost him

00:53:21.740 another 132 billion.

00:53:24.580 The left has got to this number

00:53:26.200 by basically taking a look

00:53:27.600 at the Tesla share price

00:53:29.980 at its high point.

00:53:33.400 Oh, wait, let me see

00:53:34.340 if I can...

00:53:34.980 Oh, there we are.

00:53:35.860 So, yeah,

00:53:36.500 they take a look

00:53:36.920 at the Tesla share price

00:53:38.800 at a high point.

00:53:39.380 Do you want to put that

00:53:39.900 on year to date?

00:53:41.260 YTD across the top there

00:53:42.600 since my mouse isn't working.

00:53:44.920 There we go.

00:53:45.580 So you see that the share price

00:53:47.320 has come off a bit

00:53:48.220 and they're claiming victory

00:53:50.340 for having causes.

00:53:51.240 I mean, it's actually

00:53:51.780 not really so much that.

00:53:54.440 They're trying to get

00:53:54.940 the dollar down

00:53:55.560 and that's caused a rotation

00:53:56.600 out of dollar-denominated stocks.

00:53:58.080 But I'll come back to that.

00:53:59.080 You'll come back to that

00:53:59.560 because that's gibberish to me.

00:54:01.200 Yes, but basically

00:54:02.180 the left has come to the view

00:54:03.400 that the last share traded

00:54:07.340 at the top

00:54:07.900 was notionally revalued

00:54:09.360 the entire company at this.

00:54:10.660 He owns this proportion

00:54:11.560 of the company and that.

00:54:13.000 And they're claiming victory

00:54:13.680 because, you see,

00:54:14.640 what they've done

00:54:15.240 is they've engaged

00:54:17.380 in a little bit

00:54:18.060 of domestic terrorism

00:54:19.380 as they want to do.

00:54:21.140 Yes, they have.

00:54:21.940 If you remember back

00:54:23.380 to the last time,

00:54:24.780 remember that domestic terrorism

00:54:26.120 that took place?

00:54:27.760 Which one?

00:54:28.920 Well, exactly, yes.

00:54:30.280 Summer of Floyd, you mean?

00:54:31.180 But anyway,

00:54:31.720 well, there's a number

00:54:32.560 of examples, wasn't there?

00:54:33.740 But it's happening again.

00:54:34.700 It's happening again.

00:54:35.940 And this all sort of

00:54:36.880 stems back to

00:54:38.180 Elon's

00:54:39.440 slightly unfortunate optics

00:54:42.560 when he decided

00:54:44.160 to throw his heart

00:54:45.540 out to people.

00:54:46.280 I am annoyed about this,

00:54:47.460 actually, I have to say.

00:54:48.420 Right.

00:54:48.760 Because, like, you know,

00:54:50.000 I mean, I think Elon Musk

00:54:51.100 is just being autistic. 0.85

00:54:52.120 Look at his face.

00:54:53.140 Yes.

00:54:53.880 I think he genuinely

00:54:54.840 is a bit autistic. 0.68

00:54:56.120 Oh, no, he's definitely autistic. 0.98

00:54:57.420 Yeah, and the thing is,

00:54:58.320 having a lot of people

00:54:59.080 watching you,

00:54:59.900 I can understand

00:55:00.680 how he'd, like,

00:55:01.660 spurred out a little

00:55:02.500 and act in a weird way.

00:55:04.380 But this was really, 1.00

00:55:05.600 really stupid 0.99

00:55:05.980 because this has given them 1.00

00:55:07.420 the picture

00:55:08.100 of Elon Musk

00:55:09.600 throwing a Nazi salute.

00:55:11.240 If you freeze it

00:55:12.280 at exactly the right point,

00:55:13.640 I mean, yes.

00:55:14.880 Yeah, so they can take this,

00:55:16.900 clip it,

00:55:18.220 print it,

00:55:18.820 and put it everywhere

00:55:19.560 and say, 0.97

00:55:20.480 look, Elon Musk is a Nazi,

00:55:21.820 even though I don't think

00:55:22.600 Elon Musk is a Nazi.

00:55:24.140 And he's given them 0.98

00:55:24.940 a really easy 0.92

00:55:26.320 and very silly optics win, 0.90

00:55:28.180 which I wish he hadn't done. 0.56

00:55:29.560 Well, and the left,

00:55:30.720 all they need is optics

00:55:31.640 because it's not like

00:55:32.360 they think an issue through

00:55:33.320 or anything.

00:55:33.880 No, they don't care.

00:55:35.440 It's me.

00:55:36.080 But they have been making hay

00:55:37.840 while the sun shines

00:55:38.880 with these optics.

00:55:40.620 And, of course,

00:55:41.440 because we live in,

00:55:43.320 what was that film?

00:55:45.040 Groundhog Day.

00:55:46.060 Yes.

00:55:46.480 Except in our version,

00:55:47.460 it's 1939 every year.

00:55:50.680 They've decided to brand Teslas

00:55:53.400 as swastikars.

00:55:55.920 And here we have this...

00:55:57.240 Well, like Volkswagens

00:55:58.140 that were actually created

00:56:00.500 by the Nazis.

00:56:01.340 Well, that's a good point.

00:56:02.280 That's a good point.

00:56:03.480 But...

00:56:04.240 What BMW?

00:56:05.000 How did they do

00:56:05.520 with the Nazis?

00:56:06.260 Well, finally...

00:56:06.820 Completely complicit, right?

00:56:07.620 What about Hugo Boss?

00:56:08.940 Yes.

00:56:09.560 All of these companies

00:56:10.680 are completely complicit

00:56:11.780 with the Nazis.

00:56:12.620 But here we have a company

00:56:13.760 that wasn't complicit

00:56:14.640 with the Nazis,

00:56:15.540 and these are the swastikars.

00:56:16.920 Right, okay.

00:56:17.480 Yes.

00:56:17.800 Well, I don't know

00:56:19.080 if there's necessarily

00:56:19.740 much underlying logic,

00:56:21.860 but they have managed

00:56:23.180 to put some tastefully designed...

00:56:24.600 I quite like the design

00:56:25.640 of this, actually.

00:56:26.540 So these have been going up

00:56:27.940 in London, of all places.

00:56:30.360 So I think this is only one

00:56:31.900 that's gone up.

00:56:33.120 Oh, was it?

00:56:33.620 Okay.

00:56:33.960 I think what this is...

00:56:35.780 This isn't like a nationwide

00:56:37.160 campaign or anything.

00:56:38.040 Right.

00:56:38.800 One of these has gone up

00:56:40.000 in like one street in London, right?

00:56:41.820 So the actual number of people

00:56:43.640 who have seen this

00:56:44.400 in real life

00:56:45.180 is going to be

00:56:45.940 in the hundreds, probably.

00:56:47.800 This has been done

00:56:48.480 for attention online.

00:56:49.300 Well, and then it's

00:56:49.940 thousands online, yes.

00:56:51.180 Millions online.

00:56:51.860 But it's quite tastefully designed.

00:56:53.640 So for those who are listening,

00:56:54.940 basically the poster goes

00:56:56.840 in this thoughtfully

00:56:58.120 laid out format,

00:56:59.940 0 to 1939 in three seconds,

00:57:02.400 and then a picture of Elon

00:57:03.940 in his slightly unfortunate

00:57:05.860 freeze frame

00:57:07.100 on his heart gesture.

00:57:10.140 But yes, do like...

00:57:11.180 On the tube as well,

00:57:12.780 it would seem.

00:57:14.560 This is presumably trying

00:57:16.900 to get all the city traders...

00:57:18.280 Who is paying for this?

00:57:19.980 Well, I would assume

00:57:22.960 that it's not going

00:57:23.900 to be USAID,

00:57:25.920 but I would assume

00:57:27.080 there are other pots

00:57:28.400 of money out there

00:57:29.440 that can fund

00:57:30.660 lefty agiprop.

00:57:32.900 Well, like George Soros.

00:57:34.400 Well, not just that.

00:57:35.460 I mean, literally funded

00:57:36.980 by the government,

00:57:37.720 just not USAID.

00:57:38.920 Oh yeah, it could well be

00:57:39.700 the British government funding.

00:57:40.620 I mean, there's a whole bunch

00:57:41.680 of NGOs.

00:57:44.560 I mean, it wasn't one of...

00:57:45.780 I can't remember which was it.

00:57:48.600 There was one of the

00:57:49.460 very well-known

00:57:50.780 lefty congresswomen

00:57:53.820 or senators

00:57:55.400 who was getting something

00:57:56.660 like a billion a year

00:57:57.840 into her NGO

00:57:59.000 from the US government.

00:58:01.000 So there's lots of pots

00:58:03.160 of money out there.

00:58:03.940 The German government

00:58:04.500 pays for a lot of

00:58:05.500 anti-far stuff as well.

00:58:07.160 Yes.

00:58:07.500 Like funds anti-far activists.

00:58:08.920 So I'm not in any doubt

00:58:10.820 that as we go through this,

00:58:12.880 there is government money

00:58:15.300 coming in.

00:58:16.020 But tracking down

00:58:17.060 which pot of government money

00:58:18.460 from which government,

00:58:19.280 I assume it's from

00:58:20.100 the US government,

00:58:21.140 but through one of the

00:58:22.260 pots of monies.

00:58:22.980 But yeah, so this has been

00:58:23.820 going up on London tubes

00:58:25.140 trying to get the city boys

00:58:26.620 to dump their Tesla stock.

00:58:28.900 Doesn't really work like that

00:58:30.440 because, I mean,

00:58:31.080 I've got quite a lot

00:58:31.860 of Tesla stock.

00:58:32.580 And yes,

00:58:34.740 I suppose I'm mildly

00:58:35.920 not as happy

00:58:36.940 as I could be

00:58:37.640 that it's gone down

00:58:38.540 from 400 to like 250,

00:58:40.460 but then I bought it

00:58:41.160 at $12.

00:58:42.660 So I'm like,

00:58:43.880 oh, okay, fine.

00:58:45.680 I've just got,

00:58:46.320 in fact,

00:58:46.680 what I've been doing

00:58:47.360 is I've been buying it

00:58:48.120 for the children's

00:58:48.780 junior releases

00:58:49.480 while it's cheap.

00:58:50.880 And it's just like,

00:58:51.400 okay, thank you very much

00:58:52.120 for making it a bit cheaper.

00:58:53.020 It's still a good company.

00:58:55.900 So if you want to sell me

00:58:56.860 something that's good,

00:58:57.620 cheap, then fine.

00:58:58.760 I'll just do that.

00:58:59.280 I do like the cars.

00:59:00.680 Yes.

00:59:01.620 Yes.

00:59:02.100 Well, because I got one recently.

00:59:04.020 You've driven it

00:59:04.780 a couple of times.

00:59:06.120 So they are good cars.

00:59:07.060 This, I particularly like this one.

00:59:10.280 Fast and Furious

00:59:11.660 with his Cybertruck

00:59:12.940 with the optional

00:59:14.320 upgraded wheels.

00:59:17.500 Thing is,

00:59:17.980 it starts to lose its impact

00:59:19.360 and they actually start

00:59:20.180 photoshopping things.

00:59:21.260 Oh, I quite like that one.

00:59:23.280 If it's a picture

00:59:23.940 of Elon doing it,

00:59:25.340 okay, yeah, fair enough.

00:59:26.100 That looks bad.

00:59:27.140 But it's like, yeah,

00:59:27.960 can you get the

00:59:29.060 swastika hubcaps?

00:59:31.300 No, we've made all,

00:59:32.900 we start making things up now

00:59:34.300 that aren't real.

00:59:35.340 It's like, okay,

00:59:35.840 you start losing

00:59:36.880 your own argument

00:59:37.500 when you start doing that.

00:59:38.960 I might see

00:59:40.040 if you can get

00:59:41.060 the swastika hubcaps.

00:59:43.480 Dan gets the sticker.

00:59:44.460 I bought this after you.

00:59:45.380 Yeah, we have to find.

00:59:47.720 But no, I thought

00:59:48.420 that was a nice

00:59:49.060 tastefully designed

00:59:50.000 bit of,

00:59:50.500 bit of artwork.

00:59:51.800 Not as tastefully designed

00:59:53.400 as the Islander.

00:59:55.740 We don't get any money

00:59:56.780 at all from YouTube

00:59:57.440 because they hate us.

00:59:58.860 So if you would like

00:59:59.920 to see that we exist

01:00:01.480 and as opposed

01:00:02.400 to not being here,

01:00:04.000 then consider subscribing

01:00:05.460 on lotuseaters.com.

01:00:06.640 Or if you'd like something,

01:00:08.120 a collector's item like this,

01:00:09.640 go and buy

01:00:09.980 the Islander magazine.

01:00:10.920 If you're going to do that,

01:00:12.180 do it very quickly

01:00:13.240 because we're probably

01:00:13.840 down to the last couple

01:00:14.620 of days of stock

01:00:15.240 at this point.

01:00:16.300 They are collector's items.

01:00:17.360 Oh, this one I liked

01:00:19.960 as well.

01:00:21.940 Now with white power steering.

01:00:24.060 The thing is right.

01:00:24.860 So every time

01:00:26.040 the left does something,

01:00:27.480 there's always the

01:00:28.500 look what they've said

01:00:30.040 and they assume

01:00:31.740 that everyone

01:00:32.280 disagrees with that thing.

01:00:35.580 But there's always

01:00:36.280 a constituency of people

01:00:37.220 who say,

01:00:37.600 ah, look at what

01:00:38.560 they've said.

01:00:39.280 Well, yeah,

01:00:39.800 that was my thinking.

01:00:40.820 I was thinking,

01:00:41.200 well, I've already bought

01:00:41.900 a Tesla,

01:00:42.260 but I might have to

01:00:43.480 buy the wife one 1.00

01:00:44.260 now as well.

01:00:45.540 I mean,

01:00:45.840 these adverts

01:00:46.700 will be getting me

01:00:47.180 over the line.

01:00:47.900 The adverts kind of go hard,

01:00:49.660 which is weird.

01:00:50.380 Yes.

01:00:51.020 Like, obviously,

01:00:52.440 you know,

01:00:52.900 we're not in favour

01:00:53.960 of Elon Musk

01:00:54.940 being a Nazi. 0.67

01:00:56.180 I don't think he is a Nazi.

01:00:57.540 Or white power 0.85

01:00:58.580 or any of these 0.53

01:00:59.260 nonsense terms.

01:01:01.260 But they are making

01:01:02.100 it look kind of cool.

01:01:03.180 Yes.

01:01:05.020 Yes.

01:01:05.540 Which isn't great.

01:01:06.620 I think people

01:01:08.720 should go out

01:01:09.480 and buy a Tesla.

01:01:10.180 And actually,

01:01:12.700 I've done a deal

01:01:14.620 with Elon

01:01:15.580 because he's always

01:01:16.720 up in my DMs.

01:01:18.220 And we've worked

01:01:19.340 out a code.

01:01:20.640 So if you follow

01:01:21.840 this referral link,

01:01:23.100 you will get

01:01:23.880 a thousand off

01:01:25.720 your new Tesla.

01:01:27.480 I'll make sure

01:01:28.340 that's in the show notes

01:01:29.980 and in the YouTube

01:01:30.720 description.

01:01:31.500 So if you follow

01:01:31.980 that code,

01:01:32.820 you can get a thousand

01:01:33.860 off your Tesla

01:01:34.560 by using my referral link.

01:01:36.200 And if you use it,

01:01:37.120 let me know

01:01:37.640 and maybe I'll

01:01:38.860 sign your Islander

01:01:40.780 or something

01:01:41.340 or whatever.

01:01:41.920 I don't know.

01:01:42.320 We figure something out.

01:01:44.080 But anyway,

01:01:44.380 there's a thousand pounds

01:01:45.320 off your Tesla

01:01:46.040 if you would like to

01:01:47.340 buy one,

01:01:49.540 which I think

01:01:50.480 that would be good.

01:01:51.620 I don't know

01:01:52.400 if you can get

01:01:53.140 the optional

01:01:53.660 extra gear stick.

01:01:55.920 I love how literally

01:01:58.740 it's the year 0.98

01:01:59.360 of our Lord 2025

01:02:00.300 and all they're doing,

01:02:01.520 oh, he's a Nazi, 0.97

01:02:02.420 he's a Nazi. 1.00

01:02:03.040 Oh my God. 1.00

01:02:04.520 Shut up. 1.00

01:02:05.880 Well, I mean, 1.00

01:02:06.800 it goes back

01:02:07.420 to your point of,

01:02:10.380 you know,

01:02:10.880 are Teslas

01:02:11.640 really Nazi cars?

01:02:13.620 I mean,

01:02:13.800 compared to

01:02:14.580 all of the others

01:02:16.480 that were actually

01:02:17.280 Nazi cars.

01:02:18.160 Okay, so Ford

01:02:19.400 Motor Company,

01:02:20.760 presumably that

01:02:22.460 is not supposed

01:02:23.340 to be a swastika.

01:02:24.540 wasn't Ford

01:02:26.160 a British company?

01:02:27.880 I thought it was American.

01:02:29.500 Oh yeah,

01:02:29.960 no, it is American,

01:02:30.660 yeah.

01:02:30.860 But anyway,

01:02:31.840 Ford work in Germany

01:02:33.360 produced vehicles

01:02:34.180 for the Nazi military

01:02:35.360 including trucks

01:02:36.940 and cars.

01:02:38.640 GM,

01:02:39.680 through its subsidiary

01:02:41.140 Opel,

01:02:42.100 GM produced vehicles

01:02:43.160 for the German war effort.

01:02:45.320 There's evidence

01:02:46.220 that GM was aware

01:02:47.100 and benefited

01:02:47.740 from these operations.

01:02:49.120 Volkswagen,

01:02:50.000 literally founded

01:02:51.140 as a Nazi initiative.

01:02:52.960 Yeah, I mean,

01:02:53.340 it literally means

01:02:53.860 people's car.

01:02:54.900 Yes,

01:02:55.500 yes,

01:02:55.820 Volkswagen,

01:02:56.720 people's wagon.

01:02:57.960 Because the Nazis 0.69

01:02:57.980 were socialists

01:02:58.400 like all of the others.

01:02:59.640 It was intended

01:03:00.120 to be used

01:03:00.560 as a people's car

01:03:01.280 during the war.

01:03:02.020 It switched

01:03:02.400 to military production

01:03:03.340 and used forced

01:03:04.420 labour from

01:03:05.080 concentration camps.

01:03:06.360 Not a good look.

01:03:08.240 I mean,

01:03:08.540 that's even less

01:03:09.440 of a good look

01:03:10.140 than accidentally

01:03:11.200 looking like

01:03:13.120 you're doing

01:03:13.480 a Roman salute

01:03:14.300 while waving

01:03:15.380 to people

01:03:15.840 at a rally.

01:03:16.840 I mean,

01:03:17.100 literally founded

01:03:18.620 by the Nazis.

01:03:19.380 Yes.

01:03:20.460 BMW.

01:03:22.360 BMW's involvement

01:03:23.240 include producing

01:03:24.380 aircraft engines

01:03:25.280 and motorcycles

01:03:25.820 for the German

01:03:26.760 military,

01:03:28.200 utilising forced

01:03:29.320 labour from

01:03:29.840 concentration camps.

01:03:31.180 So did Mercedes-Benz,

01:03:32.780 right?

01:03:34.000 Yes.

01:03:35.200 Yes,

01:03:35.520 they,

01:03:35.760 yeah,

01:03:36.100 yeah,

01:03:36.280 exactly.

01:03:36.840 significant use

01:03:37.800 of forced labour.

01:03:38.760 Audi collaborated

01:03:39.460 with the SS

01:03:40.300 to use concentration

01:03:41.380 camp inmates

01:03:42.260 for production.

01:03:43.860 Yep.

01:03:44.600 So Audi,

01:03:45.540 they don't get away

01:03:46.240 either.

01:03:46.600 Porsche,

01:03:47.520 or Push,

01:03:48.300 as it looks.

01:03:49.420 The founder

01:03:50.520 had direct

01:03:51.300 connections with

01:03:52.340 Hitler,

01:03:53.240 designing the

01:03:54.000 Volkswagen Beetle

01:03:54.960 at Hitler's behest. 0.79

01:03:56.720 Push also used

01:03:57.740 labour during

01:03:58.600 the war.

01:04:00.080 Right,

01:04:00.640 okay.

01:04:01.540 Opel,

01:04:02.300 I think we covered

01:04:02.960 those.

01:04:03.420 Maybach produced 0.77

01:04:04.300 luxury vehicles

01:04:05.100 but also contributed

01:04:06.060 to the war effort

01:04:06.720 by making engines

01:04:07.520 for tanks and

01:04:08.200 aircraft.

01:04:08.860 Anyway,

01:04:09.320 there's a few

01:04:10.060 more on the other.

01:04:10.700 So all of those

01:04:12.260 cars,

01:04:13.180 the left doesn't

01:04:13.820 mind you buying

01:04:14.580 them,

01:04:16.100 who actually

01:04:18.220 like,

01:04:18.960 worked with the

01:04:19.400 Nazis.

01:04:21.000 It's not really

01:04:21.760 about Nazis.

01:04:23.140 It's really about

01:04:23.580 we.

01:04:23.680 No,

01:04:23.880 it's not.

01:04:24.380 We hate Elon Musk.

01:04:25.900 That's what it's about.

01:04:26.740 Because Elon Musk

01:04:27.500 is defunding all of

01:04:28.700 our friends.

01:04:29.400 Because we got them

01:04:30.040 on the payroll

01:04:30.660 of USAID

01:04:31.760 and Elon Musk

01:04:32.480 is making sure

01:04:34.060 that they have to

01:04:34.540 get real

01:04:34.960 jobs.

01:04:35.680 Well,

01:04:35.820 that's the thing.

01:04:36.220 I'm pretty sure

01:04:37.120 that if you were

01:04:37.820 to ask any

01:04:39.300 lefty, 0.74

01:04:40.960 why is it?

01:04:42.280 Explain to me

01:04:43.060 why you don't

01:04:43.520 like Elon.

01:04:44.480 They would not

01:04:45.200 be able to give

01:04:45.640 a reason.

01:04:46.560 They would simply

01:04:47.280 have this circular

01:04:48.120 logic of saying,

01:04:48.960 well, 0.91

01:04:49.020 he's a Nazi. 0.80

01:04:49.960 Well, 0.97

01:04:50.080 how do you know

01:04:50.420 he's a Nazi? 0.57

01:04:51.240 Well, 0.99

01:04:51.380 because he's bad. 0.99

01:04:53.000 He's a Nazi. 0.99

01:04:53.720 Because he did 0.97

01:04:54.100 a Roman salute.

01:04:55.500 Okay,

01:04:56.380 and what about

01:04:57.200 him being a Nazi?

01:04:57.800 Well,

01:04:57.920 that means I

01:04:58.240 don't like him.

01:04:58.780 But it's a

01:04:59.340 completely circular

01:05:00.320 logic.

01:05:00.740 They have no

01:05:01.180 actual reason

01:05:02.020 that they can

01:05:02.420 pin to to say

01:05:03.360 that they don't

01:05:03.760 like him.

01:05:04.660 Literally,

01:05:05.220 the only thing

01:05:05.600 is that spiky

01:05:06.360 salute.

01:05:07.760 That's the proof

01:05:08.560 that they have

01:05:09.180 that he's an

01:05:09.560 Nazi.

01:05:10.180 But you can

01:05:10.980 clip frame,

01:05:13.560 and people have

01:05:14.160 done these

01:05:14.480 compilations.

01:05:14.920 Yeah,

01:05:15.060 Jeremy Corbyn,

01:05:16.280 Diane.

01:05:16.480 Yeah,

01:05:17.080 I mean,

01:05:17.380 all,

01:05:17.860 I mean,

01:05:18.400 Diane Feinstein,

01:05:19.720 Nancy Pelosi,

01:05:20.480 they've all at

01:05:21.540 some point been

01:05:22.180 clip framed.

01:05:23.380 Waving at

01:05:23.980 someone.

01:05:24.400 Yes.

01:05:25.600 Yeah.

01:05:26.600 So,

01:05:26.940 and that's all

01:05:27.460 they've got,

01:05:27.880 but they can't

01:05:28.620 explain any of it.

01:05:29.860 Now,

01:05:30.340 of course,

01:05:31.500 because the

01:05:33.220 US is,

01:05:33.760 is a wonderfully

01:05:34.640 diverse country

01:05:35.480 with lots of

01:05:36.560 interesting people,

01:05:37.960 some people

01:05:38.620 take this

01:05:39.120 slightly far

01:05:40.100 further than

01:05:40.960 other.

01:05:41.880 So,

01:05:42.320 Tesla showrooms

01:05:44.160 have been getting

01:05:44.740 attacked,

01:05:45.220 even cars set

01:05:46.320 on fire.

01:05:48.120 I'll read a

01:05:48.940 little bit of

01:05:49.460 this.

01:05:50.160 So,

01:05:51.220 as Elon Musk

01:05:53.000 attempts to

01:05:53.460 dramatically cut

01:05:54.100 the federal

01:05:54.460 workforce and

01:05:55.180 delve further

01:05:55.680 into the

01:05:56.060 corridors of

01:05:56.600 American power,

01:05:57.760 Tesla has

01:05:58.160 come under

01:05:58.580 fire,

01:05:59.240 literally.

01:06:00.160 There have

01:06:00.380 been dozens of

01:06:01.260 vandalisms against

01:06:02.140 Tesla vehicles,

01:06:03.220 dealerships,

01:06:03.780 charging stations

01:06:04.460 in recent weeks

01:06:05.320 to local police

01:06:05.920 reports underscoring

01:06:07.440 the backlash

01:06:08.400 that Musk,

01:06:09.040 blah,

01:06:09.160 blah,

01:06:09.280 blah.

01:06:09.500 Oh,

01:06:09.660 here we go.

01:06:10.280 On Jan 29th,

01:06:11.960 a 40-year-old

01:06:13.460 woman threw a 1.00

01:06:15.820 Molotov cocktail

01:06:16.860 at a cyber

01:06:18.400 truck parked at a

01:06:20.660 dealership in

01:06:21.540 Loveland,

01:06:22.860 Colorado,

01:06:23.920 according to

01:06:24.600 police.

01:06:25.140 So,

01:06:25.460 Colorado is an

01:06:26.420 insanely left-wing

01:06:27.120 place.

01:06:27.480 As I understand it,

01:06:28.080 many California

01:06:28.820 refugees have 0.99

01:06:29.780 fled to there

01:06:30.400 and continued

01:06:31.300 their left-wing

01:06:31.920 reign of terror,

01:06:33.080 making Colorado

01:06:34.120 a Democrat

01:06:34.660 stronghold now,

01:06:35.720 which is not

01:06:36.740 great,

01:06:37.140 obviously.

01:06:37.300 Well,

01:06:37.520 I'll just read

01:06:38.240 one more line

01:06:38.940 before moving

01:06:39.540 on.

01:06:40.740 The woman,

01:06:42.260 Lucy Grace

01:06:43.760 Nelson,

01:06:44.560 allegedly returned

01:06:45.280 to the dealership

01:06:45.920 four more times

01:06:46.780 in recent weeks

01:06:47.580 to cause further

01:06:48.480 damage.

01:06:48.920 Why wasn't she

01:06:49.460 locked up after

01:06:50.480 Molotov-ing a 0.98

01:06:51.620 car?

01:06:52.840 I think she has

01:06:54.260 been now.

01:06:54.740 The problem that

01:06:55.780 you've got is

01:06:56.740 that for a long

01:06:57.800 time the left

01:06:58.460 have operated

01:06:58.920 on the assumption

01:06:59.520 I get to

01:07:00.020 Molotov without 0.88

01:07:00.580 going to jail.

01:07:01.940 Well,

01:07:02.060 you're on the

01:07:02.320 right,

01:07:02.600 so zero.

01:07:03.340 I'm a man as

01:07:04.260 well.

01:07:04.500 But things the

01:07:05.140 left have

01:07:05.460 operated for a

01:07:06.140 long time under

01:07:06.900 the assumption

01:07:07.540 that they can

01:07:08.800 do anything and

01:07:10.440 just get away 0.90

01:07:11.340 with it.

01:07:11.900 And to be fair,

01:07:12.480 if they've got a

01:07:13.180 Soros-appointed

01:07:13.860 DA, then they

01:07:14.760 actually would.

01:07:16.100 They actually

01:07:16.760 would get away.

01:07:17.460 So let's delve a

01:07:18.840 little bit deeper

01:07:19.980 into this woman

01:07:21.060 that we've been

01:07:22.260 reading about.

01:07:23.980 Andy Ngo here

01:07:24.820 has the inside.

01:07:25.600 Oh,

01:07:25.960 it's a woman.

01:07:27.080 Lucy Grace

01:07:29.400 Nelson, a

01:07:30.360 leftist man

01:07:31.560 whose real

01:07:32.580 identity is

01:07:33.240 Justin Thomas

01:07:34.180 Nelson, is

01:07:34.800 referred to as

01:07:35.380 a woman.

01:07:36.120 Oh, okay.

01:07:37.000 The media reports

01:07:38.120 about the alleged

01:07:38.900 violence attacks on

01:07:39.860 Tesla properly in

01:07:40.480 Colorado.

01:07:41.240 He was allegedly

01:07:41.780 found with

01:07:42.260 homemade bombs.

01:07:43.240 So someone who

01:07:44.060 is excessively

01:07:45.480 addicted to the

01:07:46.100 internet has

01:07:46.660 decided that

01:07:47.140 Elon Musk is a

01:07:47.760 Nazi because of 0.87

01:07:49.000 left-wing propaganda

01:07:50.220 and now he's

01:07:51.520 conducting actual

01:07:52.920 terrorist attacks.

01:07:53.640 Let's just

01:07:55.900 zoom in on

01:07:56.300 that.

01:07:56.720 I've got to

01:07:57.240 say, I don't

01:07:58.920 know how accurate

01:07:59.460 Andy Ngo's

01:07:59.960 reporting is because

01:08:00.960 looking at those

01:08:01.660 pictures, I can't

01:08:03.800 tell if that's,

01:08:04.960 well, I don't

01:08:05.940 know.

01:08:07.000 Make your own

01:08:07.620 mind up at

01:08:08.080 home as to,

01:08:10.060 I think that's,

01:08:12.380 because we're on

01:08:13.700 YouTube, I shall

01:08:14.280 just say that's

01:08:15.240 very, very

01:08:15.640 convincing.

01:08:16.480 Yes, totally.

01:08:17.160 Isn't it weird

01:08:19.400 though, I've

01:08:20.900 often thought

01:08:21.280 this, is that

01:08:22.400 when terrorism

01:08:23.540 happens in

01:08:24.400 Europe, the

01:08:25.440 authorities rush

01:08:26.200 out to say it's

01:08:26.740 got nothing to do

01:08:27.380 with ideology,

01:08:28.240 it's about mental 0.96

01:08:28.800 illness.

01:08:29.680 And in America

01:08:30.360 when terrorism

01:08:30.960 happens, they rush

01:08:31.820 out to say it's

01:08:32.460 got nothing to do

01:08:33.200 with mental

01:08:33.580 illness, it's 0.91

01:08:34.180 about ideology.

01:08:36.220 And in both

01:08:37.420 cases the

01:08:38.180 authorities are

01:08:39.260 wrong.

01:08:41.160 One thing,

01:08:41.900 one point you

01:08:44.400 might want to be

01:08:44.960 aware of, and

01:08:46.020 do use my

01:08:46.880 referral code to

01:08:47.960 buy a Tesla and

01:08:48.760 get yourself a

01:08:49.140 thousand pounds

01:08:49.660 off.

01:08:50.240 But first of

01:08:51.940 all, you're not

01:08:52.480 going to have a

01:08:52.960 problem unless you

01:08:53.840 live in a

01:08:54.400 rampantly left

01:08:56.000 wing area.

01:08:57.620 So it's not

01:08:58.500 really an issue.

01:08:59.260 The other thing

01:08:59.720 to be aware of

01:09:00.460 is that, I

01:09:01.380 don't know if

01:09:01.680 people know, but

01:09:02.500 Teslas basically

01:09:03.220 record 360 degrees

01:09:04.700 around them at all

01:09:05.300 times.

01:09:05.980 I didn't know

01:09:06.360 that.

01:09:06.940 Yeah, it's

01:09:07.640 called sentry

01:09:08.160 mode.

01:09:08.660 Right, okay.

01:09:09.200 So I mean, right

01:09:09.940 now I can pull

01:09:10.460 out my phone and

01:09:11.140 see all around

01:09:12.660 my car, and it

01:09:15.340 records as well.

01:09:16.360 You can see the

01:09:16.560 blue-haired

01:09:16.880 activist.

01:09:17.500 So the first

01:09:18.520 thing I do when

01:09:18.980 I get back to

01:09:19.420 the car is I

01:09:19.800 have a quick

01:09:20.120 skim around just 0.95

01:09:20.780 to make sure

01:09:21.100 there's no

01:09:21.400 damage, and if

01:09:21.980 there is, I can

01:09:22.740 call up a video

01:09:23.480 of how it

01:09:24.000 happened.

01:09:24.720 Right, okay.

01:09:25.440 So these people

01:09:26.160 are going to

01:09:26.600 jail?

01:09:27.420 A lot of

01:09:28.140 them, yes.

01:09:28.920 So for example,

01:09:30.180 this is one

01:09:30.880 example of, so

01:09:33.480 these people

01:09:34.800 walked past and

01:09:35.380 decided to key

01:09:36.140 this Tesla, and

01:09:37.020 this is basically

01:09:37.820 recording from

01:09:38.700 the Tesla.

01:09:39.220 Abraham was

01:09:42.000 grocery shopping

01:09:42.720 in Aurora,

01:09:43.480 Colorado, when

01:09:44.380 someone keyed his

01:09:45.160 Model 3 that

01:09:45.880 was parked

01:09:46.280 outside.

01:09:47.340 Usual

01:09:47.700 suspects.

01:09:48.540 Yeah.

01:09:49.160 Exactly who

01:09:49.840 I'd expect.

01:09:52.040 The vandal

01:09:52.840 left a nasty

01:09:53.720 eight-inch scratch

01:09:54.680 on the trunk

01:09:55.140 lid, and now

01:09:55.960 Abraham has to

01:09:56.760 wait a month

01:09:57.380 before he can

01:09:58.020 take it in to

01:09:58.580 get fixed.

01:09:59.520 Abraham has no

01:10:00.460 idea who this

01:10:01.180 person is, which

01:10:02.060 leads us to

01:10:02.640 believe the Tesla

01:10:03.340 itself was the

01:10:04.260 target, rather

01:10:04.960 than Abraham.

01:10:06.140 He hopes that

01:10:06.740 sharing this

01:10:07.260 video will help

01:10:08.040 the criminal get

01:10:08.720 identified and

01:10:09.740 held responsible.

01:10:11.080 If you recognise

01:10:11.740 them, send us a 0.56

01:10:12.700 message and we'll

01:10:13.520 forward the

01:10:13.920 information to the

01:10:14.760 authorities.

01:10:16.540 That's the thing

01:10:17.140 to bear in mind,

01:10:17.700 is if you are a

01:10:19.000 leftist thinking of

01:10:19.800 going out and

01:10:20.380 damaging Teslas,

01:10:21.160 well you're going

01:10:21.680 to be caught on

01:10:23.560 camera because they

01:10:24.060 record all the

01:10:24.560 time.

01:10:25.800 Good to know.

01:10:26.420 Yes, that is

01:10:27.160 slightly unfortunate.

01:10:28.360 In response, some

01:10:29.480 people in leftist

01:10:30.340 areas have started

01:10:31.060 putting a sticker on

01:10:32.100 their car saying,

01:10:33.380 I bought this

01:10:33.860 before, I realised

01:10:34.820 Elon was a

01:10:35.680 Nazi.

01:10:36.560 And the point you

01:10:37.460 often make to me

01:10:38.040 is I ought to get

01:10:38.560 the sticker for my

01:10:40.000 car saying, I

01:10:40.700 bought this after I

01:10:41.620 knew that he was

01:10:42.060 a Nazi. 0.68

01:10:43.580 But I like that,

01:10:44.400 after I knew he

01:10:44.960 was awesome.

01:10:45.640 Yes.

01:10:46.640 But yeah, just to

01:10:47.440 be clear, Elon's

01:10:48.160 not a Nazi, we

01:10:48.880 don't know if it's

01:10:49.300 Nazis, blah blah

01:10:50.020 blah blah.

01:10:50.700 Yeah.

01:10:53.100 Still going to buy

01:10:53.740 another one.

01:10:55.900 So, these

01:10:57.000 attacks, the

01:11:00.760 leftist media is

01:11:01.600 keen to stress that

01:11:03.560 they are completely

01:11:04.600 organic.

01:11:05.560 Oh, are they?

01:11:06.280 Yes, completely

01:11:07.200 organic.

01:11:07.900 It's like everything

01:11:08.400 about the left.

01:11:09.060 Yes.

01:11:10.140 It's not, nobody's

01:11:11.360 being paid.

01:11:12.760 This is not being

01:11:13.720 organised.

01:11:15.540 To be fair, it's

01:11:16.040 probably not.

01:11:18.700 Like, internet

01:11:19.560 spurgs being like, 0.92

01:11:20.540 I'm going to key

01:11:21.000 this Tesla, that's

01:11:21.720 probably not paid.

01:11:22.780 Well, you know,

01:11:24.840 they would also

01:11:25.700 suggest it's not

01:11:26.340 being promoted on

01:11:27.200 MSNBC.

01:11:28.140 Oh, that's not

01:11:28.700 true.

01:11:29.460 Yes.

01:11:30.320 Let's listen to what

01:11:31.320 they themselves have to

01:11:32.260 say about it, because

01:11:32.780 they kind of say the

01:11:34.420 quiet part out loud.

01:11:37.940 He's very rich, he's

01:11:39.360 got control of X.

01:11:41.140 Those are big assets

01:11:42.360 to Donald Trump.

01:11:43.420 But I've got to say,

01:11:44.620 how long Elon Musk is

01:11:46.180 going to want to

01:11:46.620 continue to see people

01:11:48.580 attacking Tesla

01:11:50.080 dealerships around the

01:11:51.240 country, lighting

01:11:52.300 Tesla charging stations

01:11:53.600 on fire, painting

01:11:54.760 swastikas on the sides

01:11:56.080 of Tesla dealerships,

01:11:57.440 and seeing the stock

01:11:58.540 price plummet that way, 0.65

01:12:00.060 impacting his personal

01:12:01.020 wealth, I don't

01:12:01.980 know, and I'll...

01:12:03.380 Yeah, so, I mean,

01:12:06.080 they know what

01:12:07.000 they're trying to do.

01:12:07.660 He's literally dog

01:12:09.000 whistling, saying,

01:12:09.820 you know, Elon's not

01:12:10.640 going to keep this up

01:12:11.160 forever, guys.

01:12:12.300 You know, just saying,

01:12:13.560 it's really having an

01:12:14.300 effect.

01:12:14.700 We can put pressure on

01:12:16.260 him, and we can get

01:12:17.380 him to back off.

01:12:18.380 I literally...

01:12:19.020 This guy is even less

01:12:20.400 subtle about it.

01:12:20.980 Chris Hayes, yeah.

01:12:22.520 He's very keen to let

01:12:24.180 you know that this is

01:12:25.040 completely organic, and

01:12:26.360 he's not going to just

01:12:27.340 provide you a website

01:12:28.980 and a list of places

01:12:30.120 where you can get in

01:12:31.120 on this, and where

01:12:32.120 there's a protest near

01:12:33.100 you, and et cetera,

01:12:34.240 and so forth.

01:12:35.120 Yeah.

01:12:37.960 There's something really

01:12:38.860 remarkable happening

01:12:39.720 right now.

01:12:40.060 I'm not sure people have

01:12:40.860 really quite gotten

01:12:41.920 their arms around this.

01:12:43.000 We are seeing this

01:12:43.620 organic, bottom-up

01:12:45.380 movement against

01:12:46.380 Musk's signature

01:12:47.780 company, Tesla.

01:12:49.420 Some activists just

01:12:50.500 put up a website with

01:12:51.520 a simple message,

01:12:52.280 right?

01:12:52.700 Sell your Teslas,

01:12:53.940 dump your stock.

01:12:55.300 And then an entire

01:12:56.140 Tesla takedown movement

01:12:57.900 has sprung up in

01:12:59.060 response.

01:13:00.260 They've got a map

01:13:00.960 where all the protests

01:13:01.840 are planned all across

01:13:02.880 the country.

01:13:03.380 It's been happening

01:13:03.860 for about a month.

01:13:04.960 This weekend alone,

01:13:06.640 there are more than

01:13:07.420 a hundred protests

01:13:09.000 planned at dealerships,

01:13:10.580 Tesla dealerships

01:13:11.500 across the country,

01:13:12.280 from Brooklyn to

01:13:12.940 Toledo, Dallas to

01:13:14.360 Grand Rapids, Raleigh,

01:13:15.840 dozens more.

01:13:16.860 There are even, as you

01:13:17.480 might see there, a

01:13:18.440 handful planned in

01:13:19.240 Canada and the UK.

01:13:20.920 I'm going to tell you

01:13:21.580 something.

01:13:21.940 I wager...

01:13:22.640 Completely organic.

01:13:24.860 Here's everything you

01:13:25.560 need to know about it.

01:13:26.200 Here's a list of

01:13:26.700 protests.

01:13:26.980 Here's the website

01:13:27.700 where you can join up.

01:13:28.680 It's happening right

01:13:29.220 now.

01:13:30.360 Interestingly, when

01:13:31.300 some people speak to

01:13:32.360 these protesters,

01:13:33.700 sometimes they can be

01:13:34.820 a bit more...

01:13:35.320 You get paid to be

01:13:35.500 out here?

01:13:38.260 Amazing.

01:13:38.960 It's just a pack.

01:13:40.320 You really are

01:13:40.920 getting paid for this?

01:13:41.700 Yeah.

01:13:41.960 Absolutely.

01:13:42.780 Oh.

01:13:42.940 Definitely.

01:13:43.500 100% I'm getting

01:13:44.380 paid for this.

01:13:44.960 So this...

01:13:46.120 How much? 0.80

01:13:46.740 This genic freak is 1.00

01:13:47.660 like, yeah, yeah, 0.74

01:13:48.120 I'm being paid to be

01:13:48.840 here.

01:13:49.120 And how much?

01:13:49.860 I mean, if it's a

01:13:50.280 couple hundred dollars

01:13:50.940 to stand around on a

01:13:51.680 Saturday afternoon with

01:13:52.520 an anti...

01:13:53.300 I don't know.

01:13:53.800 Just saying, I'm not

01:13:54.440 really doing anything.

01:13:55.020 I don't know how

01:13:55.700 left is actually

01:13:56.400 how much it pays.

01:13:57.820 I mean, it might be...

01:13:58.740 I mean, he's probably

01:13:59.860 not doing anything else

01:14:00.680 with his time.

01:14:01.300 Just saying, George,

01:14:01.960 you know.

01:14:02.440 Yes.

01:14:02.700 People have even

01:14:06.780 infiltrated these groups

01:14:09.500 and they've got the

01:14:10.620 chant sheet.

01:14:12.160 Hey, hey, hello.

01:14:13.760 Elon Musk has got to

01:14:14.880 go.

01:14:15.500 Oh, I don't know if I

01:14:16.480 can read it from there.

01:14:17.520 Hang on.

01:14:18.260 Oh, I can read it

01:14:18.920 better there.

01:14:19.380 No, Elon, no peace.

01:14:20.660 Oh, my God.

01:14:21.060 These are such cringe

01:14:22.480 rehash 2016 protests

01:14:25.140 from the woke SJW

01:14:26.340 types.

01:14:27.020 But they're just now

01:14:28.100 reconfigured for Elon.

01:14:30.180 So, hey, ho, hell no. 0.93

01:14:31.600 Elon Musk has got to go.

01:14:33.440 Hey, hey, ho, ho.

01:14:34.680 It's time to fight.

01:14:35.720 Come on, let's go. 0.98

01:14:36.880 Hang on.

01:14:37.240 No Elon, no peace

01:14:38.300 is a pro-Elon slogan.

01:14:40.720 We don't have Elon.

01:14:41.900 We don't have peace.

01:14:42.600 Oh, yeah.

01:14:42.900 That's a good point. 0.93

01:14:43.740 So, that's retarded. 1.00

01:14:46.400 Whose government? 0.98

01:14:47.380 Our government.

01:14:48.540 What do we want?

01:14:49.280 Democracy?

01:14:49.800 When do we want now?

01:14:50.380 Okay, but Trump got elected

01:14:52.160 with Elon Musk

01:14:53.500 campaigning with him.

01:14:54.400 So, it's not like people

01:14:55.000 didn't know they were

01:14:56.040 getting Elon Musk

01:14:56.760 with Donald Trump.

01:14:57.820 It's very front and center.

01:14:59.640 It's interesting that

01:15:00.480 when you go to

01:15:01.420 a right-wing protest

01:15:02.740 we don't have chants.

01:15:04.780 You just have

01:15:05.440 an army of gladiators

01:15:06.840 who you can pull out

01:15:07.560 individually to make

01:15:08.360 coherent arguments.

01:15:09.580 And leftists just have

01:15:10.880 these chant sheets

01:15:12.280 and it's like,

01:15:12.780 okay, we're going to do

01:15:13.360 chant number three

01:15:14.180 and they all start chanting.

01:15:15.760 Yeah.

01:15:16.120 I mean, we're here

01:15:17.840 to mobilize fight back

01:15:18.800 against their lies.

01:15:19.880 What are you accusing

01:15:20.820 them of lying about?

01:15:21.840 Yes.

01:15:22.140 The accusation isn't lying.

01:15:23.640 The accusation is being

01:15:24.660 a Nazi. 0.68

01:15:25.620 Yes.

01:15:25.840 Right.

01:15:26.320 So, like, okay.

01:15:29.680 When Trump says yes

01:15:30.820 we say no.

01:15:31.700 Why is this important?

01:15:32.840 Because, I mean,

01:15:33.500 this is the underlying

01:15:34.160 problem here.

01:15:34.800 Look, this is the amount

01:15:36.160 of money that the US

01:15:36.960 government is spending

01:15:37.960 on servicing its debt.

01:15:39.900 It's over a trillion.

01:15:41.300 They don't care.

01:15:41.960 This needs to be fixed.

01:15:43.220 This has to be fixed. 0.99

01:15:44.720 You're a Nazi. 0.97

01:15:45.720 Yeah, and they're going 0.99

01:15:46.340 to...

01:15:46.360 Have you thought about that?

01:15:49.120 Fixing the US debt?

01:15:50.100 Nazis wanted to fix

01:15:51.060 the US debt.

01:15:51.600 But this will end...

01:15:53.140 Actually, that's not true.

01:15:54.080 Because you can see

01:15:54.580 the US basically

01:15:55.200 didn't have any debt.

01:15:56.560 Yes.

01:15:57.440 Well, like, you know,

01:15:58.480 how much were we

01:15:59.340 servicing the debt on?

01:16:00.980 Nothing during the Nazis.

01:16:02.600 They definitely wouldn't

01:16:03.260 have had an opinion on it.

01:16:04.120 And actually,

01:16:04.740 this restructuring process,

01:16:08.380 that's actually what's causing

01:16:09.760 the drop in the Tesla share price.

01:16:13.000 I did an episode on market dips

01:16:15.160 on Brokernomics,

01:16:15.920 if anyone wants to go

01:16:16.760 and get into the detail on there.

01:16:18.300 But that explains it all.

01:16:19.640 But, you know,

01:16:20.240 the very short version is,

01:16:21.740 you know,

01:16:21.960 this is the US debt clock

01:16:23.580 that's showing the scale

01:16:24.440 of the problem.

01:16:25.040 You've got the national debt

01:16:25.860 up there in the top

01:16:26.940 left-hand corner,

01:16:27.980 you know,

01:16:28.120 36 trillion of debt.

01:16:29.480 And that's only if you don't

01:16:30.760 include the unfunded liabilities.

01:16:32.760 But now you've got

01:16:33.440 this golden clock racking up,

01:16:34.900 which is the money

01:16:35.420 that Doge is saving.

01:16:36.860 And...

01:16:36.940 14 billion?

01:16:38.100 Yeah, they've only been doing it

01:16:39.380 a couple of weeks

01:16:40.820 at this point.

01:16:41.320 They've already saved

01:16:42.100 two grand per citizen.

01:16:44.540 I mean, that is meaningful.

01:16:46.120 That's great.

01:16:47.120 Like, to cut 214 billion

01:16:50.320 in, like, three weeks.

01:16:52.020 It's hundreds of billions.

01:16:53.180 I mean,

01:16:53.440 he's doing the US 0.92

01:16:55.320 a tremendous favour

01:16:56.580 and in exchange

01:16:58.160 he's getting told

01:16:58.960 that he's a... 0.88

01:16:59.500 He's a Nazi. 0.94

01:17:00.040 Yes. 0.97

01:17:00.980 Yes.

01:17:01.860 Well, you know,

01:17:02.680 if there's one thing

01:17:03.200 the Nazis were famous for,

01:17:04.420 it's their desire

01:17:05.120 to have minimal debt.

01:17:08.480 Yes.

01:17:12.000 I mean, they probably did,

01:17:13.020 to be fair.

01:17:13.920 No, they didn't.

01:17:14.680 They were terrible. 0.84

01:17:15.340 Well, they were a bunch of socialists.

01:17:17.320 They ran the term economy

01:17:18.360 into the ground.

01:17:19.460 Yeah, fair point.

01:17:21.060 Yeah.

01:17:21.320 Like, they didn't.

01:17:23.760 JD Vance gets it.

01:17:25.080 We're in on this.

01:17:25.820 Western societies

01:17:26.840 keep running the experiment

01:17:28.040 of importing millions

01:17:29.020 of low-wage immigrants 0.95

01:17:30.200 and expecting it to boost

01:17:31.480 capital...

01:17:32.340 Well, basically GDP

01:17:34.180 or productivity

01:17:35.380 and they keep failing.

01:17:36.960 It's time to follow

01:17:37.980 a different path.

01:17:38.980 I mean, that wraps up

01:17:40.760 basically the entire podcast,

01:17:42.140 everything that we talked

01:17:42.760 about today.

01:17:43.780 Vance gets it.

01:17:44.520 And these are

01:17:46.200 these unfortunate

01:17:47.080 dysgenics

01:17:47.740 who are torching

01:17:48.660 Teslas don't.

01:17:49.740 Well, they're the ones

01:17:50.280 who are being paid

01:17:50.880 by USAID, really, aren't they?

01:17:52.420 So, you know,

01:17:53.060 when you take away

01:17:54.340 a man's livelihood,

01:17:57.020 you can understand

01:17:57.680 they're quite angry.

01:17:58.500 Well, ladies. 1.00

01:17:59.340 Yeah, well, whichever.

01:18:00.580 Anyway, let's go

01:18:01.460 to the video comments.

01:18:05.460 In fact, let's,

01:18:06.120 in the meantime,

01:18:06.800 read a couple of comments.

01:18:07.480 Grant says,

01:18:08.180 just want to say

01:18:08.780 that here in thawing

01:18:09.580 tundras of Canada

01:18:10.380 I've received my issue

01:18:11.300 three of Islander.

01:18:12.300 Well, that's good.

01:18:13.220 I'm glad to hear it.

01:18:13.860 Thomas says,

01:18:15.320 I'm not at Pete North

01:18:16.200 levels of immigration policy,

01:18:17.520 but Farage isn't making it

01:18:18.840 easy to find a middle ground.

01:18:20.440 The white space

01:18:20.960 this policy fills is huge.

01:18:22.520 Yeah, it's kind of mad

01:18:24.880 that Farage has got

01:18:27.220 such a, like,

01:18:29.080 liquid position

01:18:29.960 on immigration

01:18:31.060 and deportations.

01:18:32.560 This is such an easy win.

01:18:34.800 It's such an easy win.

01:18:35.520 And why does he keep

01:18:36.480 moving it to the left?

01:18:37.780 I don't know.

01:18:39.000 Why is he trying to

01:18:39.920 outflank the Tories

01:18:40.760 on the left?

01:18:41.280 The British public

01:18:41.980 are far to the right

01:18:43.280 of all of the current parties.

01:18:45.380 Yeah.

01:18:45.660 They're genuinely

01:18:46.520 far further to the right.

01:18:48.300 And it's very frustrating.

01:18:50.900 Anyway,

01:18:51.340 we've got those ready.

01:18:53.220 Harry?

01:18:53.580 Hey, Dan.

01:18:59.040 Looking for an update

01:19:00.100 on Bitcoin.

01:19:01.620 There's a massive hack

01:19:03.080 and it looks like

01:19:04.360 about $10,000

01:19:06.180 in value

01:19:06.840 got wiped out

01:19:07.820 in 24 hours.

01:19:10.460 Should I really wait

01:19:11.620 for next month?

01:19:12.620 Or would it probably be

01:19:13.520 a good time

01:19:14.020 to bail out now?

01:19:14.980 Don't take this

01:19:19.700 the wrong way, mate.

01:19:20.840 But your position size

01:19:21.980 is too large.

01:19:22.900 Because you're always fretting.

01:19:24.780 That tells me

01:19:25.860 that your position size

01:19:27.320 is too big.

01:19:28.620 Your position size

01:19:30.080 should be such

01:19:30.800 that you don't care

01:19:32.200 about it moving up

01:19:33.600 and down

01:19:33.920 in the short term.

01:19:35.440 So you're just

01:19:36.560 over-invested.

01:19:37.940 So being able

01:19:40.100 to sleep at night

01:19:40.760 is the most important thing.

01:19:42.420 So get your position size

01:19:43.440 to the point

01:19:43.860 where you're just

01:19:44.720 chilled

01:19:45.400 and you're just

01:19:46.340 letting it do

01:19:46.840 its high volatility

01:19:47.680 thing in the background.

01:19:49.720 But yeah,

01:19:50.480 I think you're just

01:19:51.320 over-invested.

01:19:52.920 Yep.

01:19:54.220 Was that the only one,

01:19:55.460 Harry?

01:19:57.980 I'll take that as a yes.

01:19:59.620 Kevin says,

01:20:00.680 if you're a foreigner

01:20:01.420 here in Thailand,

01:20:02.520 he is,

01:20:03.240 married to a Thai woman

01:20:04.740 and your Thai spouse dies, 0.58

01:20:07.340 you have seven days

01:20:08.300 to cancel your spousal visa

01:20:09.600 and get a retirement

01:20:10.320 or work visa.

01:20:11.600 Failure to get

01:20:12.200 a different visa

01:20:12.840 means that you have

01:20:13.460 to leave or be deported.

01:20:15.420 I mean,

01:20:15.780 that's not messing around,

01:20:16.600 is it?

01:20:16.760 Seven days.

01:20:17.580 That seems a bit harsh,

01:20:18.880 to be honest.

01:20:20.560 I don't even think

01:20:22.300 I would go that far.

01:20:23.200 I mean,

01:20:23.280 I think I'd give people

01:20:24.100 a month at least.

01:20:25.060 Let them get the funeral 0.99

01:20:28.640 out of the way

01:20:29.060 and then deport them.

01:20:31.240 I'm a lot softer

01:20:32.080 on this.

01:20:32.380 If they've been married

01:20:33.180 for like 10 years

01:20:33.860 or something,

01:20:34.260 you can become a citizen,

01:20:35.460 right?

01:20:35.980 The point is,

01:20:36.620 you've been married

01:20:37.060 to a time when you can

01:20:38.160 stay for 10 years.

01:20:39.080 After 10 years,

01:20:39.840 you can stay.

01:20:40.340 Seven days.

01:20:41.060 You've got to

01:20:41.620 apply their chops,

01:20:42.680 haven't you?

01:20:45.040 Where's your spouse?

01:20:45.840 You've got seven days

01:20:46.540 to get remarried.

01:20:47.240 Oh, Jesus.

01:20:47.700 To be fair,

01:20:50.400 you could probably

01:20:51.020 achieve that in Thailand.

01:20:52.220 Possibly,

01:20:52.740 but my God.

01:20:53.680 Someone online says,

01:20:54.620 ban halal slaughter

01:20:55.400 on animal cruelty grounds

01:20:56.680 should be pretty simple.

01:20:58.060 Yeah, well,

01:20:58.820 the British public

01:20:59.780 agree with this,

01:21:00.800 right?

01:21:01.080 Yeah.

01:21:01.560 You can just show them

01:21:02.920 some halal slaughter

01:21:04.060 and be like,

01:21:05.140 should this be banned

01:21:05.780 or should we have

01:21:06.160 stun slaughter?

01:21:07.080 And everyone goes,

01:21:07.740 nope,

01:21:07.980 stun slaughter.

01:21:08.700 And yet Nigel Farage

01:21:09.540 looks at people

01:21:10.000 like this and goes,

01:21:10.800 deplorable.

01:21:11.700 Yeah.

01:21:12.520 It's like,

01:21:12.720 should we be playing

01:21:13.480 wolf noises

01:21:14.220 as they're slaughtered?

01:21:15.200 No, no.

01:21:16.140 Probably not. 0.99

01:21:16.540 Should they be dismembered 1.00

01:21:17.800 before they're even killed? 1.00

01:21:19.440 No.

01:21:19.880 Not a fan.

01:21:20.500 Not sure that that's

01:21:21.780 going to wash.

01:21:23.360 Does the British public

01:21:24.360 care about this?

01:21:24.880 Yes.

01:21:25.400 Yes.

01:21:25.760 If there's one thing

01:21:26.660 the British public

01:21:27.280 they're kind of autistic about

01:21:28.880 is animal cruelty.

01:21:30.020 Yes.

01:21:30.180 They hate it.

01:21:31.180 They will allow

01:21:32.740 a million girls 1.00

01:21:33.500 to get raped 1.00

01:21:34.000 before they'll allow 1.00

01:21:34.760 an animal to suffer.

01:21:35.800 Well,

01:21:35.960 political class

01:21:36.540 certainly will, yeah.

01:21:37.120 Well,

01:21:37.620 the British public

01:21:38.500 are honestly

01:21:39.200 kind of on that train too.

01:21:40.800 Like,

01:21:40.920 we're weird.

01:21:41.980 I mean,

01:21:42.320 I'm not saying

01:21:42.840 I obviously share

01:21:43.780 the concern

01:21:44.640 for the safety of animals

01:21:45.460 because I'm British.

01:21:46.540 But like,

01:21:47.940 you know,

01:21:48.400 if only we could have

01:21:49.380 as much consideration

01:21:50.120 for vulnerable children

01:21:51.240 as I'm saying.

01:21:52.580 I mean,

01:21:52.860 mind you,

01:21:53.380 if we had farms

01:21:55.440 in the middle of Bradford

01:21:56.460 as opposed to primary schools,

01:21:58.020 I'm not sure

01:21:58.720 the goats would be any safer.

01:22:00.440 No,

01:22:00.720 I don't think they would.

01:22:01.700 Yes.

01:22:01.980 But the point being,

01:22:03.380 everyone is,

01:22:04.360 you know,

01:22:05.200 cracks down on animal cruelty.

01:22:06.900 If you wanted to make

01:22:08.020 an issue out of it,

01:22:09.540 you could very easily

01:22:11.660 if you were,

01:22:12.700 say,

01:22:12.820 a conservative

01:22:13.420 or a reform member

01:22:14.860 who was brave

01:22:15.700 and comes out like,

01:22:17.220 say,

01:22:17.300 Rupert Lowe,

01:22:17.800 but then you will get

01:22:18.340 thrown under the bus.

01:22:19.220 So, you know.

01:22:20.300 Stuart says,

01:22:21.020 Farage,

01:22:21.560 like many of the

01:22:22.140 Westminster ilk,

01:22:22.920 has proven one thing.

01:22:24.200 When they're in a position

01:22:25.040 of taking any legitimate action,

01:22:26.600 they shy away

01:22:27.100 from making a decision.

01:22:28.560 It's almost as if

01:22:29.700 he's no longer

01:22:30.240 got the appetite

01:22:30.820 or something is dissuading him.

01:22:32.380 So,

01:22:32.740 another Westminster

01:22:33.760 invertebrate

01:22:34.500 happy with the seat

01:22:35.480 but not the responsibility

01:22:36.540 he sits on.

01:22:37.680 Yeah,

01:22:38.220 and I mean,

01:22:39.340 we all knew

01:22:39.920 kind of in the back

01:22:40.740 of our minds

01:22:41.160 that Farage

01:22:41.520 probably wasn't the guy.

01:22:42.780 Like,

01:22:42.960 when Elon's like

01:22:43.680 Farage isn't the guy

01:22:44.540 back in January,

01:22:45.780 everyone knew,

01:22:46.420 yeah,

01:22:46.700 Elon's right.

01:22:47.600 And we all had that.

01:22:48.340 But like I said,

01:22:49.080 it was kind of

01:22:49.400 a Schrodinger's Farage.

01:22:50.680 Okay,

01:22:50.960 he's not the guy

01:22:52.020 but maybe the guys

01:22:53.180 can be around him

01:22:54.240 and they can be allowed

01:22:56.320 to do that.

01:22:56.620 But also,

01:22:57.080 because he had such

01:22:58.160 total control

01:22:58.980 over the party,

01:23:00.460 is it your best tactic

01:23:01.780 to come straight out

01:23:03.020 against him

01:23:03.620 or to try and steer him

01:23:04.860 in the right direction?

01:23:06.060 The problem with

01:23:06.720 the Rupert Lowe thing

01:23:07.560 is he showed

01:23:08.840 that he was,

01:23:10.460 he could not be steered,

01:23:11.960 he was just as

01:23:13.040 egotistical as ever 0.82

01:23:14.060 and it was like,

01:23:14.700 okay,

01:23:15.620 give up.

01:23:16.540 Yeah.

01:23:16.620 And like I said,

01:23:17.680 it was only a matter of time

01:23:18.540 until he calls him a racist.

01:23:19.740 Yeah.

01:23:20.480 Which he did.

01:23:22.640 Russian says,

01:23:23.500 education,

01:23:24.060 education,

01:23:24.240 education,

01:23:25.360 education,

01:23:25.880 which was Blair's catchphrase,

01:23:27.420 whereas Lowe's is

01:23:28.520 deportation,

01:23:29.260 deportation,

01:23:29.840 deportation.

01:23:31.000 Michael says,

01:23:31.800 when my wife

01:23:32.400 first arrived in the US,

01:23:33.560 the notes on her green card

01:23:34.380 included a statement

01:23:35.020 that she was not permitted

01:23:36.160 to become a ward of the state.

01:23:37.840 Yes,

01:23:38.080 our immigration system works,

01:23:39.520 it's only the left

01:23:40.120 that muddies the water.

01:23:41.160 I mean,

01:23:41.360 that's,

01:23:41.720 again,

01:23:42.620 we just literally have it,

01:23:44.040 so if you aren't born

01:23:44.920 in this country,

01:23:45.440 you will never have access

01:23:46.640 to benefits on the NHS,

01:23:48.180 right?

01:23:49.360 It's simple,

01:23:50.600 right?

01:23:50.940 And it's so simple

01:23:52.460 and so obvious

01:23:53.120 and yet that is considered

01:23:54.460 a radical statement

01:23:55.460 in the UK.

01:23:56.120 Yeah,

01:23:56.260 it's considered insane,

01:23:57.860 right?

01:23:58.460 Someone who has literally

01:23:59.880 just stepped off a plane

01:24:01.020 onto our shores.

01:24:02.100 Benefits.

01:24:02.400 What,

01:24:02.720 can't they get benefits? 0.97

01:24:03.560 No.

01:24:04.100 Can't they get the NHS?

01:24:04.940 No.

01:24:05.400 They have to pay for these things.

01:24:06.520 Well,

01:24:06.780 in fact,

01:24:07.900 under the Boris wave,

01:24:09.920 they were translating

01:24:11.140 pamphlets

01:24:11.960 into various different languages

01:24:13.960 that they could hand out

01:24:15.280 explaining what benefits

01:24:17.060 you're entitled to

01:24:18.100 the moment that you come here.

01:24:20.100 Yes.

01:24:21.060 Including the moment

01:24:21.960 you come here illegally. 0.54

01:24:23.080 So you get off the boat,

01:24:24.340 you'd be given a blanket

01:24:25.240 and a hot cup of tea,

01:24:26.440 you'd be ferried to a hotel

01:24:27.600 and you'd be handed

01:24:28.540 a pamphlet explaining

01:24:29.740 how to claim benefits.

01:24:31.620 Yes.

01:24:32.920 Chase says,

01:24:33.680 the terminal case

01:24:34.340 of balllessness

01:24:35.040 in our mainstream

01:24:35.980 conservative parties

01:24:36.840 must be studied.

01:24:38.040 In Canada,

01:24:38.660 our new PM Carney

01:24:39.540 is celebrating

01:24:40.080 how Canada's diversity

01:24:41.060 comes from our British

01:24:42.120 and French

01:24:42.620 and European heritage.

01:24:44.040 Meanwhile,

01:24:44.500 Pierre is afraid

01:24:45.400 to say anything

01:24:46.260 against immigration 0.97

01:24:47.020 and it's increasingly

01:24:48.100 likely that he will lose.

01:24:50.660 And this is crazy,

01:24:51.840 isn't it?

01:24:52.240 Well,

01:24:52.400 he's not doing it

01:24:52.900 as well,

01:24:53.200 is he?

01:24:53.460 He's not.

01:24:53.640 Yeah,

01:24:53.860 so basically in Canada,

01:24:55.260 the Liberals,

01:24:55.940 who have been in power

01:24:56.660 for like a decade now

01:24:57.680 or however long

01:24:58.280 and who are directly

01:25:00.000 responsible for

01:25:00.660 absolutely screwing up Canada

01:25:02.460 and now like massively

01:25:04.300 ahead in the polls

01:25:05.040 because Trump came out

01:25:07.720 and was like,

01:25:08.100 I'm going to take over Canada

01:25:09.100 and so now the Liberals

01:25:11.220 have become

01:25:11.620 ultra-nationalist

01:25:12.880 right-wingers

01:25:13.420 and it's just like,

01:25:16.200 just, 1.00

01:25:16.700 just pathetic. 1.00

01:25:20.420 Kevin, 1.00

01:25:21.220 Kevin says,

01:25:22.300 yeah,

01:25:22.540 he says,

01:25:23.100 there's a clear

01:25:23.800 right-wing populist

01:25:24.540 path to victory

01:25:25.120 hanging right before us

01:25:26.460 all that's needed

01:25:27.400 is someone who

01:25:27.920 would actually wield

01:25:28.540 it unapologetically,

01:25:29.460 yes.

01:25:30.340 Like,

01:25:31.180 unfortunately,

01:25:31.760 Polivare,

01:25:32.300 I like Polivare,

01:25:33.080 but he's not,

01:25:33.600 he's like a Nigel Farage,

01:25:35.240 you know,

01:25:35.480 he's a reform character

01:25:37.160 whereas Rupert Lowe

01:25:39.440 is a Trump character.

01:25:40.880 Yes.

01:25:42.100 Does Canada have a Lowe?

01:25:45.180 Yeah,

01:25:45.660 yeah,

01:25:46.180 they do.

01:25:47.440 Maxime Bernier

01:25:48.160 and he's great.

01:25:49.300 Oh,

01:25:49.540 okay,

01:25:49.840 that's the one I like.

01:25:50.680 Even though he's French, 1.00

01:25:51.560 I really like him.

01:25:52.820 Yes.

01:25:53.120 And unfortunately,

01:25:54.120 the Canadian Conservatives

01:25:55.300 completely sidelined him.

01:25:57.100 He split off

01:25:58.240 to form his own party

01:25:59.160 and gets like 5%

01:26:00.600 in the polls now

01:26:01.160 or something like that.

01:26:02.100 But now the Canadian Liberals

01:26:04.160 are going to just rule Canada

01:26:05.820 until the sun burns out.

01:26:07.540 Western countries

01:26:08.260 are quite good at containment.

01:26:09.480 Yeah,

01:26:09.660 we're terrible.

01:26:10.380 We're absolutely terrible.

01:26:12.060 Kevin says,

01:26:12.920 when you said the R-bomb,

01:26:14.420 I was hoping that Nigel

01:26:15.200 said remigration.

01:26:16.140 Yeah,

01:26:16.320 no way.

01:26:17.160 No way.

01:26:18.640 Could be a very different

01:26:19.600 hard R-bomb.

01:26:20.740 Yep.

01:26:20.780 Sophie says,

01:26:22.240 them, 0.97

01:26:22.520 you're racist. 0.98

01:26:23.220 Me, 0.99

01:26:23.460 I just watched a video

01:26:24.220 with a Muslim Arab

01:26:25.040 having a whole speech

01:26:25.760 about how the West

01:26:26.260 is uncivilized 0.99

01:26:26.960 because we wipe our butts 0.97

01:26:28.240 after being in the toilet. 0.93

01:26:29.280 So until they change their mind,

01:26:30.720 ugh.

01:26:32.460 Kulain says,

01:26:33.360 no lovelier word than deport.

01:26:35.680 Lord Nerevan says,

01:26:36.880 if the Tory party

01:26:37.700 is now Labour from 2016,

01:26:39.840 reform is just the Tory party

01:26:41.120 from 2016.

01:26:42.620 Totally cucked

01:26:43.320 and inexorably sliding

01:26:44.320 towards total betrayal.

01:26:45.660 Yes.

01:26:46.880 The worst part is

01:26:47.780 they'll probably actually

01:26:48.380 form the next government

01:26:49.100 but the betrayal

01:26:49.620 is already here.

01:26:50.100 Yeah,

01:26:50.500 but that's the point.

01:26:51.920 Even if Nigel wanted

01:26:54.220 to do right-wing things

01:26:55.580 without competent,

01:26:57.520 experienced people

01:26:58.200 around him,

01:26:59.060 he's not going to get

01:26:59.540 anything done.

01:27:00.200 We all understand that

01:27:01.100 and that's the crux

01:27:02.040 of Ben Habib's critique

01:27:03.160 of what Nigel Farage is doing.

01:27:05.120 But there's no indication

01:27:06.300 Nigel wants to do anything.

01:27:08.320 Right?

01:27:08.760 Nigel will work

01:27:10.600 to improve the GDP.

01:27:13.060 Well,

01:27:13.280 this is the thing

01:27:13.980 that a lot of

01:27:14.560 the remaining

01:27:15.740 reform supporters

01:27:17.420 are getting wrong

01:27:18.140 when they're sort of

01:27:18.680 coming back on us.

01:27:19.440 They're saying,

01:27:19.660 oh,

01:27:20.440 it's our opportunity

01:27:21.300 to change the government.

01:27:23.040 We're not interested

01:27:23.720 in changing the government.

01:27:24.620 We're interested

01:27:24.960 in changing the direction

01:27:25.940 of the country.

01:27:26.800 The state.

01:27:27.600 Yes.

01:27:28.020 State needs it.

01:27:28.560 And Farage has made it

01:27:30.400 very clear

01:27:30.800 he has no intention

01:27:32.100 of changing the direction

01:27:33.460 of the country.

01:27:34.480 He only wants to change

01:27:36.060 who's in charge

01:27:38.540 of the train

01:27:39.040 while it carries

01:27:39.580 on the tracks

01:27:40.120 down the same route.

01:27:41.100 Farage could literally

01:27:42.900 come out and say,

01:27:43.440 look,

01:27:43.580 I'm going to make

01:27:44.060 the very concept

01:27:44.680 of a quango illegal.

01:27:46.480 So vote for me

01:27:47.740 and there will be

01:27:48.820 no non-democratic

01:27:50.260 governmental entities.

01:27:51.760 Because the issue,

01:27:53.340 and this trust

01:27:53.760 has been quite strong

01:27:54.380 on this,

01:27:54.960 saying,

01:27:55.220 look,

01:27:56.060 every quango

01:27:57.020 is taking power

01:27:58.180 away from the elected

01:27:59.020 representatives in Westminster

01:28:00.080 into an unaccountable body

01:28:01.440 that will just continue

01:28:02.720 to advance the Blairite

01:28:03.820 agenda forever

01:28:04.840 and continue to calcify

01:28:06.260 the state

01:28:06.640 so it's more difficult

01:28:07.300 to change in future.

01:28:08.500 Any serious reformer

01:28:10.680 would have to say,

01:28:11.540 right,

01:28:11.660 no,

01:28:11.860 the quangos have to go.

01:28:13.100 They have to go.

01:28:14.280 They are part of the reason

01:28:15.340 this country is going 0.50

01:28:16.300 to hell in a handbasket. 0.93

01:28:18.140 Just every single one 1.00

01:28:19.020 of them is just

01:28:19.420 nuke,

01:28:19.720 nuke,

01:28:20.020 nuke,

01:28:20.300 nuke,

01:28:20.440 nuke,

01:28:20.580 right?

01:28:21.380 You could legislate

01:28:22.420 for it on day one

01:28:23.280 if you wanted to.

01:28:25.080 Farage has not said 0.99

01:28:25.760 a goddamn word about this. 0.99

01:28:27.380 Like, 1.00

01:28:27.540 not one word.

01:28:28.020 What reform

01:28:28.860 does he even plan to do?

01:28:30.460 When you say reform,

01:28:31.300 he means the state,

01:28:32.320 right?

01:28:32.500 You must mean

01:28:33.260 the constitution

01:28:34.400 of the state

01:28:35.180 and he's reforming

01:28:36.400 and yet Farage

01:28:37.460 is silent.

01:28:39.200 There's nothing on this.

01:28:40.840 And so it's really,

01:28:42.280 really disappointing

01:28:43.080 and yes,

01:28:44.260 we're going to have

01:28:44.680 another Boris-style

01:28:45.560 missed opportunity,

01:28:46.300 right?

01:28:46.680 Entirely possible

01:28:47.320 Farage gets like

01:28:48.020 380 seats

01:28:48.840 or whatever Boris got.

01:28:49.940 Nice,

01:28:50.440 strong,

01:28:50.860 thumping majority.

01:28:52.120 Right,

01:28:52.500 okay,

01:28:53.000 good majority,

01:28:53.740 good mandate,

01:28:54.300 I can do anything I want.

01:28:55.460 I'm going to betray everyone

01:28:56.360 and ruin the country, 0.80

01:28:57.220 says Boris.

01:28:58.100 And Farage is just like,

01:28:59.060 hmm,

01:29:00.380 maybe I can do that.

01:29:02.140 Because he won't have

01:29:03.800 any talents in his party

01:29:05.580 because he's chased away

01:29:06.840 any hint of talent.

01:29:08.500 Yeah.

01:29:08.960 He'll just get yes men.

01:29:10.300 He'll have to put them

01:29:11.420 in ministerial positions

01:29:12.600 and the established

01:29:14.600 mandarins

01:29:16.560 will run absolute

01:29:18.020 rings around them

01:29:19.260 and it will basically

01:29:20.480 be ruled by the deep state.

01:29:22.280 Yes.

01:29:23.080 And it will be very similar

01:29:24.400 to Trump's first term.

01:29:26.080 Yeah.

01:29:26.260 Trump didn't know

01:29:26.880 what he was getting into

01:29:27.540 and you can't blame him really.

01:29:29.260 He wasn't a politician.

01:29:30.380 He was a businessman.

01:29:31.120 He was a TV show host.

01:29:33.860 Gets in and realises,

01:29:35.300 oh,

01:29:35.420 I can't do anything.

01:29:36.640 These people are going to,

01:29:37.520 you know,

01:29:37.820 block me, 0.55

01:29:38.440 investigate me,

01:29:39.200 persecute me

01:29:39.780 and I'll spend

01:29:40.980 four solid years

01:29:42.400 getting very little done.

01:29:43.780 I'll recommend

01:29:44.340 another Brokonomics.

01:29:45.520 The Brokonomics 0.99

01:29:46.860 I did with Tony Blair

01:29:47.900 on his book

01:29:48.760 On Leadership.

01:29:50.900 If you go through

01:29:51.880 that book

01:29:52.300 On Leadership,

01:29:53.700 he was so focused

01:29:56.420 and so driven.

01:29:56.900 When he came into

01:29:57.680 government,

01:29:59.020 he had a plan

01:30:00.120 from day one

01:30:00.900 and,

01:30:01.900 you know,

01:30:02.360 the civil servants

01:30:03.340 turned up and said,

01:30:04.080 okay,

01:30:04.200 how can we implement

01:30:05.020 your agenda?

01:30:06.240 And he was like,

01:30:06.860 yeah,

01:30:07.000 you're not in charge of it.

01:30:08.400 I've brought my own people in,

01:30:09.820 I've set up my teams,

01:30:11.160 they're going to be coming to you

01:30:12.080 and telling you what to do

01:30:13.060 but I'm not leaving you

01:30:14.240 in charge of doing any of this.

01:30:16.180 That is exactly what,

01:30:17.400 we need a bit,

01:30:18.240 we need a Tony Blair

01:30:19.460 on the right,

01:30:20.280 basically,

01:30:20.840 who comes in

01:30:21.340 and drives change.

01:30:23.140 Interestingly,

01:30:23.760 look at Trump's second term.

01:30:25.260 Trump has done,

01:30:26.000 Trump has done exactly

01:30:27.900 what he needs to do

01:30:28.720 and the fact that Farage

01:30:29.840 is not learning from Trump

01:30:31.240 is kind of crazy

01:30:32.740 because Farage is getting

01:30:33.640 on a bit now,

01:30:34.440 he's only got one real opportunity

01:30:35.780 to get this done

01:30:36.640 and he's not going to get

01:30:37.660 anything done.

01:30:38.600 What you need to do

01:30:39.520 is Farage should be

01:30:40.660 reaching out to Trump's people

01:30:42.260 and saying,

01:30:42.620 okay,

01:30:43.120 send me somebody

01:30:44.240 who was there

01:30:45.920 at the planning stage.

01:30:46.440 Send me Stephen Miller.

01:30:47.460 Yes.

01:30:47.880 Send me Stephen Miller,

01:30:48.660 that's what he wants.

01:30:49.740 And let him show us

01:30:52.120 how to build

01:30:52.700 a British version

01:30:53.400 of this plan.

01:30:54.360 And you can literally

01:30:56.300 just have one phone call

01:30:57.240 with Stephen Miller

01:30:57.700 and probably get 90%

01:30:58.640 of what you needed.

01:31:00.080 But even then,

01:31:00.760 you don't even need

01:31:01.280 a Stephen Miller.

01:31:02.040 It's actually not rocket science.

01:31:03.980 Look at all this

01:31:04.560 anti-democratic,

01:31:05.740 Blairite nonsense. 0.96

01:31:06.420 Just strip it out. 0.63

01:31:08.440 It'd be very easy

01:31:09.720 to actually identify

01:31:10.820 things that need to go.

01:31:12.440 Anyway,

01:31:13.120 Finn says,

01:31:13.740 Starmer approval

01:31:14.300 has bottomed out

01:31:14.980 and it seems to be

01:31:15.620 coming back up.

01:31:16.380 Farage can't coast forever.

01:31:18.120 Yeah,

01:31:18.500 this is another thing.

01:31:19.160 I forgot to include it

01:31:20.220 in my segment.

01:31:21.200 But weirdly,

01:31:21.860 Tom Harwood

01:31:22.600 made a good point.

01:31:23.840 Actually,

01:31:24.300 reform's dipping

01:31:24.900 in the polls slightly

01:31:25.700 two weeks on

01:31:26.960 or a week and a half on

01:31:27.900 from the Rupert Lowe stuff.

01:31:29.400 Okay,

01:31:29.700 yeah,

01:31:29.840 in the first weekend

01:31:30.860 it didn't have an effect.

01:31:32.180 But now it's starting to dip

01:31:33.300 and it's like,

01:31:33.820 right,

01:31:34.000 okay,

01:31:34.540 who knows where that goes,

01:31:35.640 right?

01:31:36.240 Because if Farage

01:31:37.200 continues portraying

01:31:38.140 his own base,

01:31:39.540 eventually the influencers

01:31:40.660 who talk to the base

01:31:41.660 on a daily basis

01:31:42.660 were like,

01:31:43.660 this isn't happening.

01:31:44.560 This is not happening.

01:31:45.320 Look what he's doing.

01:31:46.140 Massive self-inflicted.

01:31:47.100 Exactly.

01:31:47.580 Yeah,

01:31:47.860 exactly.

01:31:48.080 Oh,

01:31:48.200 look,

01:31:48.340 he's bringing in

01:31:48.880 Labour communists now

01:31:50.060 and literal immigrants.

01:31:51.740 At least he brought in 1.00

01:31:53.660 one nationalist.

01:31:54.520 He just happened to be

01:31:55.340 a Bangladeshi nationalist.

01:31:57.740 Yeah,

01:31:57.960 and like I said,

01:31:58.540 I can completely respect

01:31:59.460 Bangladeshi nationalism

01:32:00.760 in Bangladesh.

01:32:02.200 Yes.

01:32:02.960 But anyway,

01:32:03.720 we're out of time there.

01:32:04.740 So thank you

01:32:05.400 for joining us,

01:32:06.200 folks.

01:32:07.000 Do you have

01:32:07.580 Brokonomics afterwards?

01:32:08.820 I do,

01:32:09.300 yes.

01:32:09.620 Right,

01:32:09.820 okay.

01:32:10.080 I do.

01:32:10.760 Right,

01:32:11.220 you'd think I'd know

01:32:12.080 the schedule better,

01:32:12.700 wouldn't you?

01:32:13.020 But that's why

01:32:14.180 other people are here.

01:32:15.820 So I don't have to.

01:32:16.760 Anyway,

01:32:17.020 thank you for joining us,

01:32:17.880 folks.

01:32:18.240 Be back in half an hour

01:32:19.180 for Brokonomics

01:32:19.820 and we will see you tomorrow.

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