The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1126

00:00:00.000 you made it it's the end of the week thank god uh today i'm joined by leo curse thank you for

00:00:13.220 joining me leo hello and former ukip mep stephen wolf stephen thank you so much coming on no no

00:00:18.340 pleasure my pleasure and uh right so today we're going to be talking about how nigel farage has

00:00:22.520 lied about rupert bow uh how britain is remilitarizing are we getting conscripted

00:00:27.420 well we might be a bit too old but yeah if you're if you're aged 18 to 28 then yeah get get get ready

00:00:34.920 pack your bags i'm not sure if they've increased pensions they're going to take us up to pension

00:00:39.140 age i think yeah yeah well yeah in ukraine it's like pretty much anybody and uh we're also going

00:00:43.640 to be talking about how the british establishment seems to be declaring war on young white boys in

00:00:47.660 britain which is wonderful uh but before we go on there is of course lads hour afterwards where we're

00:00:53.320 going to be talking about school days what was it like at school for the load seaters and some of us

00:00:58.280 quite old so uh things were a lot different but anyway let's begin so nigel farage as you may

00:01:03.560 remember kicked rupert lowe out of reform on the allegation that he or his office had been involved

00:01:11.660 in two bullying scandals and that he personally had threatened zier yusuf uh rupert lowe of course

00:01:17.360 denies all of this and two of the allegations have already evaporated into smoke with the people

00:01:22.400 alleged to have been alleging them uh rescinding their allegations so and the allegations weren't

00:01:27.260 even against lowe himself and so this has left reform looking frankly uh strangely dishonest

00:01:36.060 uh that this has all come to nothing and recently the bbc have actually published a series of uh text

00:01:43.060 messages or whatsapp messages uh that reveal well this was not what it was about but we'll get into

00:01:48.540 that very shortly before we do uh go and get your copy of islander if you're in the united states

00:01:53.960 only because it's been sold out everywhere but the u.s there are only 300 copies left in the united

00:01:58.840 states uh everywhere else worldwide in the uk uh they're all gone so i'm afraid you've missed your

00:02:04.880 opportunity if you wanted to get one and we're really sorry but we don't reprint these these are

00:02:08.660 one-time only things uh so get them while you can uh anyway right so let's um let's begin at the

00:02:15.720 beginning just to re uh summarize everything you may remember nigel farage wrote this article in

00:02:20.280 the telegraph saying nope reformers acted responsibly of rupert lowe because the allegation is the

00:02:25.500 evidence as far as nigel is concerned if so if anyone lays an allegation against you well you're as

00:02:29.960 guilty as guilty can be uh quite soviet in that way actually and uh therefore lowe was kicked out of

00:02:36.900 the party he says uh we must wait and see what the findings of the parliamentary authorities reach

00:02:41.780 and hear what the case he has to say about this and i said okay it's not what this is about is it

00:02:47.100 uh richard tice went on uh tv and bbc and he told laura kusenberg if i can just scroll down to the uh

00:02:56.120 so you see there uh that uh he told laura kusenberg that there was quote absolutely no truths in the

00:03:01.920 claim of a connection between lowe's comments on thursday which was uh rupert lowe sorry i should have

00:03:06.660 mentioned had said in an interview with the daily mail that farage is a sort of messiah figure and

00:03:11.860 reform is not run democratically and doesn't have a shadow front bench so if it were to take government

00:03:16.760 we don't really know who they would choose and it looks like they might have some serious problems

00:03:20.840 actually running a government uh these are in my opinions fair and constructive criticisms

00:03:26.560 uh because i had made them previously myself uh these this is something that nigel farage really

00:03:31.860 needs to think about given reform's position in the polls uh and it seems that nigel took that very

00:03:36.940 very poorly but richard tice does say that uh he says no we've had anxieties for some time about

00:03:43.820 rupert lowe which i find hard to believe because he's a 67 year old gentleman who probably isn't

00:03:49.360 beating up many people and uh this there's absolutely no truth that there's a connection between

00:03:54.760 rupert lowe's comments and the allegations emerging the next day and nigel farage recently went on

00:03:59.320 julian hartley brewer to go on the attack and decide no uh rupert lowe is in fact a radical extremist

00:04:05.680 whose opinions are unreflective of the british public uh why he would say this is kind of up in

00:04:11.680 the air because when polled 67 percent of the british public think that illegal immigrants just

00:04:18.180 need to go home and that includes 52 percent of liberal democrat supporters so even the wettest people

00:04:24.560 in the country are like well yeah obviously the illegals shouldn't be here some of the wettest people in

00:04:28.480 the country are the illegal immigrants because they're weighed ashore good point and so this is

00:04:35.960 me setting up this remarkable series of revelations uh and we're going to go through the bbc article

00:04:43.400 because uh it's it's interesting and i've also been in contact with the person who is the origin point

00:04:49.460 of these messages to confirm the bbc are not lying and for once they're not lying which uh i found

00:04:56.180 remarkable they say a series of messages between farage and someone who worked for lowe in recent

00:05:00.640 years they of course keep the man's anonymity but uh but i know who he is and i have spoken to him

00:05:04.920 uh reveals farage's personal anger with lowe about the comments of the daily mail

00:05:08.460 and so uh we'll just scroll down and see the actual exchange so you can uh can we can we make this a bit

00:05:15.300 smaller it's a bit too big um but uh right so in one message uh farage says lowe is contemptible

00:05:22.180 uh when asked by the activist who is currently not a party member why reform had allowed a lawyer to

00:05:26.560 come had not allowed a lawyer to complete the investigation for suspending farage farage says

00:05:31.080 because he is damaging the party just before elections disgusting uh and uh when it was suggested

00:05:37.720 the investigation to lowe was a response to his criticism of leadership uh farage replies in a

00:05:43.140 different set of tweets um uh if where was i uh we are definitely damaged and within two weeks of

00:05:50.460 nominations awful farage went on to say the mail issue was a side issue and the party had investigated

00:05:55.520 the claims against lowe but the messages reveal a level of animosity between the mp and his team

00:06:00.000 and the reform uk leadership alongside the claims about his behavior which of course lowe denies

00:06:04.160 so i mean it seems that uh nagel farage has taken this very personally but it also sounds as though

00:06:10.740 there's more going on than we're sort of aware of or being being told about i mean and i can see

00:06:17.240 farage's point that you know he's almost he's almost like the you know the analogy of carrying

00:06:23.060 a vase across the polished floor and you don't want to slip and drop the vase you know reform are

00:06:26.920 outpolling labor and the tories in a lot of polls uh so to have this sort of maverick firebrand

00:06:33.860 member of your party come out and make these statements that can be i mean why why use the

00:06:37.600 word messiah like that's an obviously uh you know it's not the first time that he's been called a

00:06:43.320 messiah patrick o flynn wrote a similar article in 2015 i think it was and the same sort of language

00:06:50.640 2015-16 yeah farage came out fighting in the same way that he's disgusting before elections

00:06:56.840 there's always going to be elections yeah the point about this is that in the general scheme of

00:07:02.100 politics this sort of issue would have been picked up by the bbc and sky internal fight he's a messiah

00:07:09.120 used against nigel for a week or two and then would have faded away this is a deeper deeper crisis for

00:07:15.380 nigel's own confidence and these these whatsapp messages actually are the nail in the coffin of

00:07:20.220 his own honesty because it shows that the strategy to get rid of uh rupert was dishonest it was about

00:07:27.540 saying that these allegations already you know shown to be not true that we'll have an investigation

00:07:33.100 parliamentary not true this is all about being up front protecting the party's image from someone who

00:07:38.860 is a bully who's threatening but actually what this shows and what we know about the elon musk

00:07:44.600 tweet about uh rupert lowe is this about nigel feeling weakened in himself in his own character

00:07:50.760 and that's one of his biggest flaws he could not allow a man that was seen to be more popular

00:07:56.360 and had a standing ovation at the conference that was longer than his he just could not allow that to

00:08:03.780 happen and that egotism that kind of narcissism some people say whether that's true or not i'm not a

00:08:09.300 medical expert to be able to say that but what i i would say is that the history of the way that

00:08:15.180 he's dealt with people who have quality or capabilities within his party is that of someone

00:08:21.600 who's generally frightened of being able to engage and work as a team and only ever wants to be seen

00:08:26.980 as number one this is the proof and i think it's only made the whole situation worse it's dragged it

00:08:32.980 out it's damaged the party much more than a few comments have do you think it'll actually damage

00:08:39.160 the party's chances with the electorate because i mean a whole bunch of people in if you look at the

00:08:44.640 polls of like you know who's aware of members of reform uh you know farage gets you know huge name

00:08:51.600 recognition it's not all good 99 yeah yeah everybody knows everybody knows who knows who he is even if

00:08:57.200 they they they don't like him whereas rupert lowe even though you know i'm a sort of perpetually

00:09:01.360 online right-wing person so obviously i know who he is i think he's great uh and and richard tice as

00:09:06.460 well like lowe and tice don't get anywhere near the same sort of uh figures no they don't and it's a

00:09:11.280 very important and valid point that you raise about name recognition which is why farage wanted

00:09:15.680 to cleanse himself i heard conversations way back in 2014 after the general election when you could

00:09:22.160 got three and a half million people that nigel had to step back to cleanse himself from the brand he

00:09:27.760 was seen too much as a racist that's why we can't get you onto tv in america yet until you're seen to

00:09:32.600 be cleansed eventually this cleansing led him to being in the jungle where he seemed to be really quite a

00:09:37.860 nice kind man this is actually showing him on the other side of that his real real character is

00:09:43.040 oh but people kind of expect this at top the top level of politics it's not going to be like running

00:09:47.500 a pet shop it's going to be you know people you know doing a bit of shenanigans and machiavellian

00:09:52.420 absolutely get that well it's one thing um doing some shenanigans and machiavellian maneuvering but

00:09:57.600 it's another thing having a track record of personal destruction yeah nigel farage has clearly been

00:10:04.500 at the nexus of a group of people who have engaged in not just reputational destruction

00:10:09.720 reputational destruction is something that's actually relatively easy to fight against um you

00:10:14.200 know you can broadcast your own arguments but it's it's the personal interference in people's lives

00:10:19.380 trying to ruin their their relationships trying to ruin their businesses trying to on in the case of

00:10:24.860 rupert lowe reporting him to the police absolutely over these false allegations which theoretically could

00:10:29.680 have landed him in jail like this this this goes far beyond you know the the sort of political

00:10:34.920 maneuverings of oh well he's a crap politician and therefore we'll deselect him or something

00:10:39.060 which i i would be completely you know totally fine with um this this is a darker layer to me that is

00:10:45.560 much more sinister and i think this is why it's really hurting more which is why you're looking it into

00:10:49.680 his face when you see him on the interviews he's tetchy he's not being able to be affable about it

00:10:55.140 and going to your point you're right i do think at the moment there is no real push through to the

00:11:00.640 general public because during the campaigns that we had for brexit there was a sensation of hope

00:11:06.600 people were coming out clapping and campaigning because we really thought there was a real

00:11:11.460 malleable change coming into this country with the brexit argument what they're seeing now having

00:11:16.520 seen the conservative parties effectively destroy the opportunities of brexit the labor party destroying the

00:11:22.280 opportunities of life in this country is they're now desperation they're clinging onto their

00:11:27.620 fingertips of hope that somebody could achieve this this isn't about hope and positivity this is the

00:11:33.180 negativity and they're sticking with reform at the moment because they're going well nigel's done it

00:11:37.560 before maybe he really means it the damage is within his own political party i think the strategic

00:11:44.940 thought process at the top having sitting meetings like this is that they're saying look low is going to go

00:11:50.600 away it's just a fight no one's really knows him because they don't have name recognition

00:11:55.320 we can get the money coming in we can push the polling that'll get people to join us because of the

00:12:01.380 belief that they'll get an mp's seat we've done that with brexit although we took away their opportunities

00:12:07.200 in a deal that we were going to do and we don't really need to care about the workers the general

00:12:12.500 members who are doing all the hard work but now you're seeing the isle of white last night

00:12:18.120 it's branch collapsing another branch than the day before collapsing they're making a mistake

00:12:25.540 in that the people who do the work they're delivering the leaflets that knocking on your

00:12:30.100 neighbors the persuasive arguments in a coffee shop or in the pub that farage isn't a racist reform

00:12:36.000 isn't racist party are going and so they're going to limit that opportunity and if you're just simply

00:12:41.400 going for those who are depressed and hopefully clinging on for desperation you're going to get that to a

00:12:46.540 certain level yeah but come along somebody who is the john f kennedy of our time unknown on the radio

00:12:54.080 nixon was it took someone seen on the radio as being the best guy but once he got him on television

00:12:59.900 he was looked better if with the right backing if with the right amount of money then you get onto

00:13:05.560 social media like this then who's going to win the new positive energetic person who is going to

00:13:13.720 bring hope to our country or the guy that now is linked with desperation there's a another deeper

00:13:21.660 issue as well which is um the the the social media ecosphere is far more um not not larger but far

00:13:31.340 more self-aware now the the online right as it's being frequently called by people who denigrate us

00:13:38.620 uh is far better connected than it ever was so in say 2014 or 2015 or 2016 um when this kind of thing

00:13:46.320 happened and a person's life was attacked by this cabal of people uh there there wasn't as much

00:13:53.040 they could scramble for purchase on and grab hold of to try and fight back uh and i think that actually

00:13:59.140 in 2025 this is an a genuine nexus that has actual persuasive power and moreover rupert lowe seems to have

00:14:07.060 just been the worst guy to do this to um yeah i mean he's everyone's favorite granddad he's he's

00:14:15.040 their member of the family he's the sort of person that you just want to go and watch for i've just

00:14:18.420 been in southampton on the football yeah everyone is chanting his name when you get down there to be

00:14:24.660 honest he's not fans fans of football but not necessarily fans of politics well you you go to

00:14:29.120 the bbc went to great yarmouth and they went around interviewing people on the streets and they had

00:14:32.960 nothing but praise for rupert lowe yeah and he's oh he's best mp we've ever had he actually did

00:14:37.600 something for us and he gives his salary away to us it's like okay he's he's he's kind of like you

00:14:42.000 know boomer jesus what's happening you know that's dan's formulation for him but i think it's a really

00:14:47.460 good one because like you you found the one politician who seems to be unimpeachable like you

00:14:53.440 found the one politician who's actually not corrupt and is actually doing the job i mean look at

00:14:58.340 rupert lowe's contributions with the written notes in parliament 950 or so compared to nigel farage's

00:15:02.900 20 he's doing the work yeah and so this seems to have been essentially that kind of immovable object

00:15:08.840 that farage is hammered against and everyone's like no enough we're not having this nigel's attempt

00:15:14.740 at doing the work it seemed to be encapsulated in three areas one is the gb news uh tv and the hope

00:15:20.300 that he persuades more people to come into into reform through his channel the second is flying

00:15:26.100 backwards and forwards to america to see those on the right and the trumpets with hugely expensive

00:15:32.920 flights that we seem to have seen over the last few days that he does that and the other is he's

00:15:38.260 talking to donors but all of them is seeming like that the high end it's nice dinners it's nice trips

00:15:45.520 away it's all of that is way away from what's happening on the ground where people in the isle of

00:15:51.760 white are asking for information how to campaign how can we challenge specific issues rupert on the

00:15:57.180 other hand was engaged he was talking to them ben or should before that ben how he was often seen

00:16:03.120 around the country talking to different constituents finding out what their issues were trying to find

00:16:08.520 a solution so that the ground team was out there there is an importance to the top end media team i get

00:16:13.940 that that's really really valuable and that's why you need name recognition but if you don't keep your

00:16:18.700 members happy if you don't keep them also working hard and all it is is i'll come up and do a great

00:16:22.920 speech at some conference somewhere where you've got to pay 25 quid or 50 quid to come and say hail

00:16:27.360 hail nigel then sorry you know shouldn't say hello nigel i should say really rather than that i don't want

00:16:33.360 to get caught in trouble by others but i don't mean it in that sense not that he's that person but i do

00:16:38.160 mean that he is like hail actually in the caesar situation let's put it in those contexts so this this is

00:16:45.140 another um issue we bring up the brand net recognition thing i'm kind of tired of this

00:16:50.300 argument because i think this is as much a lodestone around someone's neck as it is a benefit because as

00:16:56.560 you said uh there are everyone knows who nigel farage is um but when you look at his approval ratings

00:17:01.400 it's about 33 percent actually like him yeah but it's 67 percent absolutely despise him yeah for a

00:17:06.960 long time people have said that there's a ceiling well that's what i was saying the other day yeah

00:17:10.540 yeah and and so i mean what nigel is essentially waiting for is just the collapse of his enemies

00:17:16.140 of his opponents i shouldn't say enemies i don't know if he has enemies with them that's the british

00:17:20.200 political way don't succeed yeah yeah don't win that's the that's the uni party way don't say

00:17:26.500 anything just please yeah open my mouth no no here no open my mouth starmer the point being is who

00:17:33.280 knew who kia starmer was before he became the leader of the labour party absolutely nobody did who

00:17:37.320 know who kemi badenock was before she became the leader of the conservative party nobody did

00:17:40.680 and so actually we don't choose our political leaders based on fame uh because otherwise the

00:17:46.580 cast of love island would be running the country and to be honest with that probably better than what

00:17:50.020 we've got let's be honest but the the point being we try to select for merits right um the the the

00:17:56.120 person isn't famous and then becomes the leader of the party they become famous after being the leader

00:18:00.560 of the party um and so that's an argument i just want to dispose of it doesn't matter in fact the

00:18:05.720 brand recognition might be a bad thing and in some ways this is when you look what happens in the

00:18:10.180 united states okay we've seen movies and films about it but the reality is the republican party

00:18:15.700 and the democratic party are doing a number of things one is they're going through universities

00:18:19.300 and colleges looking at who are the face the image the words the language that people are using

00:18:25.040 to see if they are the future that's where they picked obama up when he when he right when he was

00:18:30.480 at yale it's not where they got biden though yeah biden i think slipped slipped very very slowly

00:18:37.040 but then we got the the other opportunity is they're always going senators are they going to

00:18:44.860 be any good governors generally they look at governors and they're looking at face they're

00:18:48.880 looking are they well recognized in their area not nationally and so they know that they've got to

00:18:53.900 pick them up and build them over a period of time that's about planning careful planning for the

00:18:59.340 future trump did that after he went out he chose his team much more selectively he was careful about

00:19:06.000 who was coming in the point about nigel is he's not doing that he's not looking at anybody else and

00:19:11.160 saying they could sit alongside me the second really important point about politics and images and having

00:19:16.980 individuals name recognition is about having people who have different voices we've heard it okay

00:19:23.020 with the dei and diversity issue let's have a woman let's someone who's gay let's someone who's black

00:19:27.600 let's have a woman who's muslim all all the political parties are doing that the reason is

00:19:32.220 they want to reach out to a different electorate again nigel's not done that i'm gonna go zia

00:19:39.260 oh ever popular zia everyone loves zia don't they um this is another point is the people he's

00:19:46.460 surrounded with aren't exactly the most charming people in the world like the the natural constituency

00:19:50.800 of richard tice i imagine is quite small the people who actually like richard tice i'm not saying

00:19:55.260 there's anything wrong with tice it's just he's not mr charisma and you know when you see richard

00:20:00.620 tice on tv you're not thinking right i want that guy in charge zia yusuf again a bit of a charisma

00:20:05.340 vacuum again the problem that you can see that nigel's had with rupert lowe is rupert lowe is very

00:20:09.700 likable very likable and is capable of act because he's he's been in public life for a long time as the

00:20:15.900 manager of southampton he's given many a speech he can speak and he can do it well but anyway i wanted to

00:20:21.360 go on to the next part of this that i i found interesting which is this nigel's he's damaging

00:20:26.280 the party just before elections now i don't agree that constructive criticism of what you will need

00:20:31.200 to do to form a government is damaging the party and rupert lowe made it clear that look i've been

00:20:35.680 trying to have these conversations privately with nigel for months and he had just simply never

00:20:41.180 responded which is very peculiar since you've got five mps you can't really think of an excuse why

00:20:45.660 i can't talk to that one uh no it must be a personal issue and i think that you're absolutely right

00:20:50.320 when it comes to the elon musk putting a a light on him and him getting the standing ovation so

00:20:55.000 really elon musk has screwed the american right donald trump winning the election has been the

00:21:00.000 worst thing for the right in britain and europe it's not over it's not over we've got four more

00:21:05.740 years of this yeah and that this is another argument where you can't vote for a new party

00:21:09.740 you've got to go for an established party like the reform party which was officially incorporated in

00:21:13.140 2021 that's a new party there's that's an argument that goes away as well if it took them three

00:21:18.320 years four years to get to this point well we could be in the same point with a different party

00:21:21.960 so that's not good enough either right but um but the issue here is he's damaging the party now i want

00:21:27.100 to know what the evidence of that is right because this seems to be a very fragile perspective from

00:21:32.200 nigel farage because i mean like i mean he's also bragging that they're at 27 in the polls this is

00:21:37.440 point i was going to pick up for yeah so why why is he so paranoid about any kind of public facing

00:21:44.880 constructive criticism or dialogue like why does he think that his party needs to be run along soviet

00:21:50.780 lines where every single person says exactly the same thing whatever the dear leader is saying

00:21:55.120 and have no personality of their own because it just doesn't seem to bear out he seems to be wrong

00:22:00.000 on this point yeah i take it from what you were saying about you know name recognition important and

00:22:06.060 then you also said that that it's not really having a massive dip in in the polls and we've got

00:22:11.720 that and his performance there at 27 so that comes to the question then if you are all being so

00:22:18.040 successful it's not having a dip the criticism didn't have any impact at all you weren't damaging

00:22:23.140 the party but who was it damaging it's damaging the relationship between you and me as dear leader

00:22:29.580 instead of having the red book then we've got some light blue and white book but you know well i guess i

00:22:34.320 guess i go back to the point about uh about carrying that vase he doesn't want any dissent in the

00:22:38.680 party he doesn't want it to descend into this sort of uh this internal fighting i know uh it didn't

00:22:43.880 play out like that yeah that worked because how many vases have gone literally tens of us have gone

00:22:52.060 as well what is another strange thing though is that he's learned nothing from donald trump

00:22:56.700 he's learned nothing because i mean donald trump came through the republican party like a bull in a

00:23:01.780 china shop i mean the the republican debates primary debates back in 2015 2016 whenever it was

00:23:07.080 they're some of the best television you've ever seen fabulous you know absolutely the most oh it's

00:23:12.440 you know little marco rubio who's now the was a home secretary or something you know like ministry of

00:23:17.820 um yeah and you know he's going off about ted cruz i mean literally he just basically bullied every

00:23:23.320 single one of them to explain to them no i'm going to do this and he won and then okay he lost in 2020

00:23:28.760 but now he's he's back again and now he's really serious so the the idea that discord is something

00:23:35.340 that oh the electorate will just turn away and you'll never win anything no in fact it's it's not

00:23:40.020 true and it would be a lot easier if other people were taking the flack frankly for nigel i think he

00:23:45.720 didn't really like jd vance yeah initially i mean it made the events didn't like him didn't like him

00:23:50.240 i mean in a sense you also have there were a couple of statements from um kennedy that criticized trump

00:23:57.460 at different times the capability of a real leader is the recognizing that i've got a certain level of

00:24:03.780 skill that i need to build a team of people who i think are brilliant at what they do much better

00:24:09.840 than me in some areas or in other areas but if i can gel them together along the whole idea yeah

00:24:16.480 whether it's called the mago whether it's called trumpism whatever that idea is or make america great

00:24:21.620 i think really is what they're all coming behind then you can bring in people you've disagreed with

00:24:27.060 and actually they end up being much more magnanimous look at the way jd vance now

00:24:31.440 supports trump yeah went after zelensky the moment there was an inch of criticism i'm not standing for

00:24:37.000 this that's real loyalty that's politics that's that's jd vance not really having principle and not

00:24:43.000 being a well conviction politician i think flopping and changing i think there's more to it than that

00:24:49.560 maybe he's become more convicted but the the rfk one i think is a great example because rfk had about

00:24:54.560 five percent of the vote on the democrat side and so trump folding him into the maga movement means

00:25:00.140 that's five percent more for trump and this is what nigel france has failed to understand with and i saw

00:25:05.580 you uh you're on a new culture forum the other day saying look there's a huge amount of right-wing

00:25:10.280 talent in the uk that's just not being tapped and it's so crazy how nigel is just leaving this all

00:25:15.560 on the table because these these are more people who can spread the message instead of that he's

00:25:21.400 looking to greens liberal democrats and the people that he's he has are basically saying i would have

00:25:27.620 not got my seat anyway in the party as i that i was with i'll come and join you that's political

00:25:32.580 opportunitism but britain's a hugely different country to america i mean in america people still have

00:25:37.400 positivity and they love their country whereas britain british people are you know apart from

00:25:42.240 a sort of small coterie of people on the right most people in britain are just cucked and broken and

00:25:46.900 they've had decades of indoctrination into loathing their country loathing themselves having you know

00:25:53.100 everything deconstructed and broken down any sense of you know family or unity uh so you can't sort of

00:25:59.760 um like trump wouldn't do well in the uk trump wouldn't because he's american right yeah no no no i

00:26:07.020 mean it i mean it there's there's something uh trump's english accent i have not actually still sounds

00:26:12.880 american but there's a british trump would not sound like donald trump yeah right the and the the the

00:26:21.640 issue that the the issue that donald trump really wins on is his repudiation of the establishment

00:26:27.720 he doesn't look for the approval of the media he doesn't look for the approval of the rival parties

00:26:31.820 he doesn't look for the approval of politics professors activists no i'm doing this we're

00:26:36.560 building the goddamn wall rupert lowe is cut in the same mold that's why elon musk was like farage

00:26:41.400 isn't the guy because he was bending the knee to the media and the establishment whereas rupert lowe was

00:26:45.120 like no i make no apologies but also take a look across into europe marie le pen vilified uh not only by

00:26:53.160 her own country but vilified by nigel farage where we are 2014 effectively the two biggest parties of

00:26:59.860 the right opportunity to unify both those parties um but the deal would have been done is that marie

00:27:07.000 and nigel would have had shared 50 50 of the power 50 50 of the speeches on the front desk nigel wasn't

00:27:12.980 going to have that he turned around and said she's too radical she's too extreme well this extreme

00:27:18.640 person has managed to transform her party have the clever foresight to bring in younger people

00:27:24.440 in the same way and has just magnified her power and influence across france which was an even more

00:27:31.040 difficult way of winning power than it is in the uk although ironically some of her success has been

00:27:36.740 uh by using the tactic of pushing away things that are seen as too far right so you know the afd she

00:27:42.420 refuses to to work with them yes i mean that's an odd oddity that's happening in the european

00:27:48.760 parliament although there is an understanding that actually that might have been a planned strategy

00:27:53.040 that they've done because also you have the afd a woman who is lesbian with married to someone of a

00:28:00.640 different color and a different country and different nationality like most right-wing people

00:28:05.040 absolutely lots of ways and she too has managed to uh solidify her political party you can look

00:28:11.440 similarly uh at italy the only person that uh nigel really looks wants to look at is is is gert

00:28:18.500 he's the only one he seems to admire and yet that's a very extreme figure though exactly it's so peculiar

00:28:24.480 he admires him because he managed to control and take everybody out yes yes that's why he likes

00:28:29.800 wilder's rhetoric i mean i was like okay steady on gert but but now he's doing very well or he did

00:28:36.240 do very well in the netherlands but anyway just to just to finish off this uh section then uh this

00:28:40.760 was rupert lowe's written statement in this and uh to to go back to rupert lowe has been lied about

00:28:46.680 which does seem to be the fundamental truth that's revealed by these messages uh rupert says look at

00:28:53.160 the timeline the interview took place with the daily mail on the february 25th on the february 26th

00:28:58.400 farage's team were made aware of it on 27th the vexatious complaints were raised escalated within

00:29:03.540 reform roughly a month after the complaints claimed they informed parliament uh and on the 28th i

00:29:10.000 received the first letter about the allegations from anderson no other warning all another strange

00:29:13.500 coincidence because i mean farage and his team had claimed that they had been doing this since

00:29:17.980 before the interview which doesn't seem to be true and that they'd sat and they said that they'd sat

00:29:24.060 on these allegations for about three months so this was it looks to me like a calculated political

00:29:29.700 hit job that was done because rupert lowe was popular with the base and not apologetic towards

00:29:36.380 the media and for us i think felt threatened by him and that's why this has happened uh anyway right

00:29:42.120 let's go we've got a bunch of comments here um mark arabic says much respect to mr wolf hope to see

00:29:48.280 more of him and in success good see you too leo thanks for all this carl thank you very much um

00:29:53.920 and mark to shame says uh video games in the u.n the united nations had a discussion on helldivis 2

00:29:58.120 works as a fascist brainwashing program with our head cds okay well that's a bit off topic

00:30:02.540 and it does sound another show yeah caleb says uh to use a different analogy unfortunately it says

00:30:11.620 that nigel is the vapid stereotypical barbie instead of the lovable but flawed ken

00:30:15.300 uh that's connor's reference not mine uh dxtn says uh uk politics is such a drama show i love it

00:30:21.540 for us should have john burko yell order to him every time he acts like a cult leader in that

00:30:25.520 i mean that's part of the problem with the with the right is because it's an inherently sort of

00:30:31.000 individualistic movement so it's full of individuals that all want their own thing and

00:30:35.660 all want to be boss whereas the left are just a conformist blob yeah this is another thing for us

00:30:40.140 said he instantly came out and said well rupert lowe wants to be the leader of the party's

00:30:43.360 rupert lowe didn't say that you know it's just that you're so used to leading from the rear that

00:30:47.000 when someone starts leading from the front you see it as a threat but anyway let's let's move on

00:30:51.540 we're all getting drafted right yeah well your country needs you we're going to talk about the

00:30:56.100 remilitarization of britain now because america has kind of abandoned europe uh you can kind of

00:31:02.480 understand why i mean to be to be honest you know america having you know military control over the west

00:31:07.480 suited america for for a long time uh even though they put in the the majority of the funding for

00:31:12.920 the military uh they they reaped lots of benefits in trade and also being the reserve currency of the

00:31:18.940 world and uh and just you know being the daddy who doesn't want to be the daddy i don't like trump

00:31:23.260 trump doesn't want to be the emperor of the world anymore i don't i don't get it you'd think he would

00:31:27.340 after all the things i've read about him um but yeah so we're now gonna have to stand on our own

00:31:32.400 uh feat kira is talking about boots on the ground in ukraine he's scaled that back to air and sea

00:31:38.420 uh protection is that because the army got on the phone he's like what boots what are you talking

00:31:42.260 what is it dan and soon ran and said if you want 5 000 you really need 25 000 because you've got to

00:31:48.000 have rotations yeah are you going to get 25 000 from and someone said okay they're coming across

00:31:51.920 on the channel every week we've got a few there well yeah i know i read a i read a headline uh in a

00:31:58.180 german paper that said that they're they're looking at that they're looking at conscripting

00:32:01.700 illegal migrants but then you're going to or i think specifically afghanistan men which you think

00:32:06.640 oh that's that's a good you know that's a good thing thing to do it'll get them to show their

00:32:09.960 allegiance to the country and stuff really what you're doing is is training them up yeah and giving

00:32:13.540 them weapons so is it isn't that great an idea but that's what the americans did when they went in to

00:32:19.540 take on the communists we gave them the weapons and then came al-qaeda yeah yeah and you see that

00:32:24.260 across the the middle east in syria you're seeing american weapons being used on both sides because you

00:32:28.480 know various parts of the american state has funded and armed different factions at different times

00:32:33.460 and uh it always seems to get to syria now and there's a little marketplace going american

00:32:37.520 and ironically is though that's the problem yeah but you know given the culture that we've got and

00:32:45.280 what's happened in the uk over the past few decades we're talking about in the last section we've got

00:32:49.380 this uh culture of you know patriotism is essentially criminalized who's gonna and we've had you know

00:32:54.680 hundreds of thousands of people come into the country we're having a million people over a million

00:32:58.880 uh gross migration every year you know net migration is still really high like 700 000

00:33:03.480 as people leave the british dream is now to get rich enough to be able to leave britain but uh you know

00:33:09.120 we're having people coming across coming across the border um so who's gonna leave britain and leave

00:33:15.060 their wife and kids unprotected and defenseless in the uk and then go overseas get your legs blown off

00:33:21.080 and then come back to the uk and then get locked up by keir starmer because you asked you know oh who

00:33:26.580 who raped my family you know i mean that's that's literally or be charged for actually trying to shoot

00:33:31.320 someone on the other side yeah or that's what they're doing they're they're they're removing the

00:33:35.900 sort of suspension of prosecution for for ss troops yeah so if you can serve overseas you can be

00:33:42.540 prosecuted for you know you're shooting the enemy you're gonna have some lefty human rights lawyer

00:33:48.000 pick over what you did overseas when you're defending your country we saw what they did in

00:33:52.100 northern ireland we've seen we've seen the cases yes i mean i i campaigned i think way back in 2019

00:33:58.520 um about one of the officers who'd been charged eight times on abuses that allegedly occurred in

00:34:06.000 in iraq in iraq and each time he'd won they kept on coming back for him so what did they want

00:34:12.280 that's it all of this on human rights issues yeah so on the one side you've got them removing the human

00:34:17.140 improving the human rights issues for them but actually means challenging soldiers when they

00:34:21.720 come back and on the other side you're going to go away as you say and get your legs blown off but

00:34:26.780 not protect you and if you complain throw you in prison yeah the the issue is very clearly and why

00:34:33.420 they want to have conscription here is because they recognize that the country has descended in such a way

00:34:38.880 where you if you challenge immigration if you watch what's going on and you've demonized white people

00:34:45.200 in in particular why would you want to defend yourself and let's say it is russia i've heard

00:34:50.440 many arguments saying well hang on a minute russia wants to close its borders to illegal migration it

00:34:55.100 protects its christian judeo history it wants to protect all its institutions and we live in a

00:35:00.160 country that doesn't want to do all of that well would my life be that different under them if i'm

00:35:05.400 poor and working class because my voice would actually be heard whereas here it wouldn't i mean

00:35:09.520 russia's a sort of degenerate mass migration wef like ultimate ultimate mafia state china if china

00:35:17.080 invaded you know they're nice yeah they're a nationalistic oh i mean the nationalists in russia

00:35:21.900 actually fight on the side of ukraine because they they hate putin they hate the they hate what's

00:35:26.480 being done to the country they hate you know the it's a federation isn't it yeah yeah multi-ethnic

00:35:30.540 federation yeah it's like a kind of slavic eu yeah but china i mean you've got to look at china

00:35:36.220 all right they've got censorship do we not have censorship in the uk exactly what changes

00:35:40.420 like ridiculous levels of censorship and also the thing about china is you know what you can and

00:35:45.340 can't say i don't have any criticism xi jinping you don't know what you're going to get a knock on

00:35:49.660 the door from the police about you know who come around and say oh yeah we've got freedom of speech

00:35:53.140 but then you get hit by a non-crime hate incident you know even if you didn't know what you said someone

00:35:58.080 from you know scotland has turned around and said you mank i don't like what you have to say

00:36:02.260 on the show today and suddenly the police have got you as a non-crime hate incident

00:36:05.880 yeah and and this is really the dilemma that we've got as a country they have demonized our

00:36:10.680 nation they've demonized our history they've helping to destroy our culture they're pulling

00:36:14.780 down statues they've got tv shows that were going on which criticize white children in a minute when

00:36:19.780 actually we see the opposite and then they expect you to go and fight for something that is not

00:36:25.080 representative of them anymore and i wouldn't let my sons fight for this no all the time you've got

00:36:29.500 guys like this coming over so this this guy came over a couple of weeks ago so he's a gun-toting

00:36:34.560 channel migrant who called for the slaughter of all jews and he'll have you know human rights

00:36:39.360 lawyers provided by the state to to protect his his rights and so what we're supposed to leave the

00:36:44.940 country while he's in the country so we can go and you know it doesn't make any sense i think you know

00:36:49.160 if anything ukraine shows that a country uh ukraine's a fiercely sort of nationalistic

00:36:54.780 masculinist country that protects its borders it's got inviolable borders and so it doesn't allow

00:37:00.240 you know bollocks like this um and if we move on to the to the next one and we've got 50 40 to 50

00:37:07.380 thousand this is from a few years ago so the number is going to be greater now within our borders 40 to

00:37:12.680 50 000 islamists on terror watch lists i mean that's a why are they here that's an army you know

00:37:19.040 oh yeah that's absolutely you know why are they here and all they have to do is is coagulate together

00:37:24.060 in one particular area yeah and cause that slow kind of destruction where we have even professors

00:37:30.120 of well-recognized professors at the london university suggesting we're getting close

00:37:34.440 to a civil war low-level hits that's an amazing uh thing about david bates yeah and if you've read it

00:37:40.300 at great length as i have it makes the analysis of what i i looked when i went back to the north of

00:37:45.940 england and manchester where i was and you look in leeds and birmingham and those areas where you

00:37:51.860 go to places now which are predominantly poor uh muslim individuals who come from different

00:37:58.820 countries but also second and third generation pakistanis who are without work who have that

00:38:04.180 same level of no hope in there and they're voting for the islamist parties yeah and they're going to

00:38:09.420 be there radicalized in the same way that we could see in syria it might not happen next year or the

00:38:15.240 year we we are building this kind of tortured country of the future the best britain can really

00:38:22.380 hope for is a sort of balkanization and separate states forming within britain but the worst the

00:38:27.820 worst we're going to get is all out civil war i wonder and i'm not to throw this out because i was

00:38:31.700 just thinking about it in the car coming over do you think the idea of having starmer trying to make

00:38:35.760 himself look like some sort of joe 90 you know look at me and my padded gear out there is the hope

00:38:42.040 that by having a war against russia enough of us will die that we'll all get the the kind of 1939

00:38:47.680 spirit together you think that's what really the elites are hoping might actually happen i'm not sure

00:38:52.380 i think i think the elites are just uh spitballing and reacting to situations i think you know the the

00:38:57.860 fact that our economy has been a sort of ponzi scheme for so long and they've tried to keep it going

00:39:02.680 instead of doing the necessary thing which is to cut welfare spending cut pensions make people work

00:39:06.880 longer that's essentially what we need to do it's the only thing to do it's the only thing to do but

00:39:11.340 obviously that's an incredibly unpopular message to put out so if you only need to last another four

00:39:15.140 years in office you're not going to do that instead you're going to bring in more mass migration that's

00:39:20.300 going to you know artificially inflate gdp it's like throwing kindling on a fire but you're you're

00:39:24.720 actually making the long-term structural issues worse one of the structural issues is if you are really

00:39:29.440 radical is you have to close the borders completely when i wrote the paper a fair flexible forward

00:39:35.280 thinking immigration paper i showed that it was possible to run our national health services

00:39:39.160 education with 50 000 net migration a year and that meant banning low-skilled immigration and it did mean

00:39:45.580 that there would be a small hit to gdp in the first couple of years because there had to be yeah

00:39:50.220 when we've got gmp per capita now declining rapidly every year now we're worse off than the year before

00:39:57.540 that change then that radical change would have left a million people not here in this country

00:40:02.940 therefore no demand for the housing therefore no demand for the benefits all of the problems

00:40:07.560 all of them move away and if you can remove that body and then start deporting if it is a million

00:40:14.360 people a million people gone from this country yeah who are a cost to the country would actually start

00:40:19.820 to look at us saying okay we still got those massive issues of debt huge amounts of debt but at least

00:40:25.060 now the money that's coming in perhaps we can spread that more evenly it's a good start but will

00:40:30.140 we have politicians in our elites willing to take those radicals no i'll take it off the disabled and

00:40:35.540 i'll make the the pensioners freeze to death that's it yeah take the land off the farmers yeah yeah which

00:40:42.720 is uh what communists always do he knows middle class schools you know like sorry go on carry on

00:40:48.140 there's just so many things keir starmer has done that are just we've already we've already covered

00:40:52.060 some of this and the discussion we've had but the next the next tab shows this is matt goodwin's

00:40:56.580 analysis so as of you know about you know getting on for a month ago 154 000 mainly young men from

00:41:02.140 islamic nations have entered britain illegally so yeah and we we saw you know during the southport

00:41:06.900 riots i was just talking to the one of the one of the guys in the office and he he you know reminded

00:41:10.680 me that they had uh the police were saying to the to the muslim mobs leave your weapons in the mosque

00:41:16.380 yes and it's like man how about how about they don't leave the you know how come you know the

00:41:21.480 why don't you have some sort of amnesty where they hand in the weapons wouldn't that be uh more

00:41:25.160 reassuring no no we're going to turn the mosques into armories yeah i got it in literal literal

00:41:30.400 arsenals don't get done non-crime hating well i mean it was the police doing that not me well that's

00:41:35.880 the thing the culture has has changed the politics have changed the next tab uh shows let me look at

00:41:40.740 this news story so vile neo-nazi group spread sick campaign of hate to scotland's highest peak

00:41:46.720 if we scroll down let's see what the sick campaign of hate it's a sticker saying love your nation i'm

00:41:51.600 sure i'm sure they had other stickers saying other stuff but this is the sticker that's the headline

00:41:55.700 thing that's apparently so hateful so apparently saying love your nation is a hate crime yes so how

00:42:02.400 am i supposed to what what am i fighting for people don't join the army for money and that's a

00:42:05.720 i i have an answer to this when you think about it you are fighting for the liberal international

00:42:10.880 order you are fighting thanks exactly no no but that's that's what they're all thinking that's

00:42:15.900 what they all think they're protecting right so everyone is treated as the same so i mean you know

00:42:21.500 people who literally get off the boat they need all of these extra rights they need all of these

00:42:25.580 extra protections because they don't have a society around them will naturally accommodate them

00:42:30.800 right so if you you go back to scotland you've got friends and family who will help you if you're in

00:42:35.360 trouble right these people well maybe you don't i like the phrase liberal international order

00:42:39.720 shortened leo that's that's but that's that's what they're protecting and so if you love your

00:42:44.960 nation well what does that put in itself opposition to well the liberal international order the rules

00:42:50.000 based order is in trouble and frankly donald trump is the reason they think donald trump and vladimir

00:42:54.240 putin are the same person is because they're both the kind of man who don't agree with the

00:42:58.140 international and and i'd fight for the liberal international rules based order if it was what it said it

00:43:04.580 was but it's not it's this crappy soft communism not even a soft communism you know what i mean

00:43:11.340 it's just not acceptable yeah the international rule based order has been perverted from the

00:43:16.360 really laudable ideas yeah of having a u.n convention on human rights and that dealt with

00:43:21.980 those people in war in the second world war were jews being persecuted what they didn't say is by the

00:43:27.440 way we're going to allow that to be extended to allow anyone who's just in any country in the world

00:43:31.420 feels that they really don't want to work there they'll be refugees from poverty yeah i forgot

00:43:35.820 when when i did the research on asylum that shows that is in the center for migration economic

00:43:39.840 i suppose we had like what 1 million 200 000 people have come here since the year 2000

00:43:44.560 who've made claims for asylum my favorite is the one from svalbard just the seed depository yeah in

00:43:51.860 svalbard just outside of norway the norwegian island i don't know i think maybe you just said it's

00:43:58.000 too cold or maybe there's a polar bear that come in as a friend of him and he didn't want to get

00:44:02.600 involved but that's it and the other one was that in the last year of biden and trump it was like

00:44:07.560 76 under americans under biden had sought asylum and over here but 89 from under trump in his last year

00:44:16.740 so even trump beat biden then and they they actually they get asylum based on that well the research we've

00:44:23.140 got doesn't allow us and because the freedom of information requests have failed they don't allow

00:44:27.660 us to say the applications who's actually been rejected yeah yeah who's actually been allowed in

00:44:33.220 they give you the numbers of who here who come the children all the rest of it they give you the

00:44:37.260 numbers of the claimants and who's been accepted but they don't allow you to match across yeah and

00:44:42.960 that's one way of hiding information the whole asylum system is essentially a sort of anti-civilizational

00:44:48.460 immigration system i mean most people claiming asylum aren't actually fleeing war they might be

00:44:52.740 fleeing you know often they're fleeing popular tourist destinations like thailand and they return

00:44:57.700 there most of them return their own holiday return to where they're fleeing so you know it can be that

00:45:02.100 quid pro quo where there's 69 people from jamaica last year left that with 69 of us can go back

00:45:06.760 and take over their their holiday homes let's let's move on okay yeah and if we're still looking at

00:45:14.480 before we reconstruct the british empire it should be a good idea honestly that would be a good idea i agree

00:45:20.480 british empire running these places they wouldn't need to seek asylum love your british empire well

00:45:25.880 this this is the thing there was like well we want to solve migration at the source and say so that's

00:45:29.840 imperialism yeah yeah that's i mean okay it's a great idea we can have a conversation about it if

00:45:33.800 you want yeah we can turn somalia into a productive industrialized country if we uh we look here so this

00:45:39.820 is emily thornberry who's still a big wig in the labor party scroll down when you see her sneering

00:45:45.480 at uh oh yes uh england flag rochester yeah i think she's not even scottish she's sneering at an

00:45:52.080 england flag and she's english i mean that just shows you know image from rochester yeah how dare

00:45:57.200 they that shows the sort of how the elites see any form of nationalism or patriotism it's it's

00:46:03.420 disgusting and now you know those people who love their country are going to be the people all of a

00:46:07.700 sudden you won't see people sneering at patriotism they're gonna go why aren't you patriotic i've seen

00:46:11.860 i've seen dale vincing oh you should be patriotic and pay more taxes like i prefer to show my

00:46:16.600 patriotism in a different way then uh but yeah and it's uh cultural as well they're removing world

00:46:22.660 war ii murals because they show too many white people in britain were white at the time yeah that's

00:46:29.020 right they were the white people who died for the freedom of this country in in 1961 england was

00:46:33.860 something like 98 99 english so white you know and and something like uh they did they did studies

00:46:41.160 i mean this is sorry we can play that no we move on to that next one we can we can play this if you

00:46:46.060 like but it's basically just english people uh are you proud to be british oh god no oh good god

00:46:51.400 no no i hate england this place sucks yeah no not really actually no no there's a horrible history

00:46:58.620 behind it i don't like it the weather's awful the job market's terrible we get paid terribly

00:47:03.520 and our accidents can be annoying like mancunians liverpool a-okay southern accent does my head in

00:47:09.760 no offense what i like where i live i wouldn't say i'm proud of britain as a whole but we're the

00:47:13.460 most obnoxious when it comes to holidays and it oh god i can't stand to see some of that is they are

00:47:18.360 making some really good points though what's that about mancunians yeah definitely not about the

00:47:25.360 mancunian accent but yeah you can see this messaging that starts in starts in primary

00:47:34.180 school and then you know uh britain's terrible horrible history we're the worst country in the

00:47:39.080 world we do so many cruel things it's like no we didn't as empires go we were one of the most

00:47:44.080 benevolent best empires if you could if you could have the you know an empire come in i don't think

00:47:49.200 since the roman empire is a built so many things built so much stuff and you know let me like the

00:47:54.460 genghis car empire you know genghis he was a lovely man wasn't he just threw you into a pit

00:47:58.840 with spikes do you want the arab empire where they they they castrated the slaves you know what i

00:48:03.960 mean like people people it was the old days people were pretty barbaric machu picchu you don't even

00:48:08.200 need to go that far back you look at the spanish man the spanish were amazingly evil like everywhere

00:48:13.580 they went like when columbus arrives in um cuba or whatever it was he just oh i need 50 men to

00:48:18.700 enslave the island what we don't do that yeah like in fact that was kind of uniquely spanish

00:48:23.580 actually but it's this constant like rapacious advance that the spanish have where the british

00:48:29.600 are like right we're going to build something here we're going to build something here we're

00:48:31.520 going to build something here here's the elgians in congo yeah it's the chinese with their own

00:48:35.880 empires the japanese 500 nations they're bringing all the city states in together all along that period

00:48:41.360 is equally murderous along the way and i'm not saying we didn't do anything bad along the route

00:48:45.840 but we brought a best out people we tried to bring in leaders we expanded the civil service we granted

00:48:51.700 opportunities for work and we left most states in a better in a better state than when we when we got

00:48:57.800 there and you know although later on you know they might have fallen apart i mean look look what's

00:49:01.340 happened in zimbabwe you can't really blame that you know i mean britain's you know provided you know

00:49:06.620 any assistance that can to stop it happening but you know it's inevitable in some cases and it's

00:49:10.700 interesting you mentioned china because you know right now they're the rapacious colonial empire and you

00:49:15.680 never see these anti-colonial brits talking about talking about that it's not about that it's about

00:49:19.440 hatred it's about hatred of britain yeah it's about honestly it's about communist subversion and

00:49:23.360 demoralization it's the straight out of the red book it's straight 100 and it's been done by people

00:49:28.320 who are communists so yeah anyway and reformer banned from uh laying a wreath on remembrance day

00:49:34.100 and yeah there's been this huge push for dei in the military as there has across all government

00:49:40.860 organizations and private sector organizations so white british students not allowed to apply for

00:49:47.060 security services internship which is ridiculous i used to work for um detica which uh and then bae

00:49:54.500 systems uh applied intelligence um that did a lot of intelligence work you know military stuff and all

00:50:00.300 all the rest of it and we had a we had a really sort of genuinely diverse workforce because we're you

00:50:05.500 know they were trying to get the best and to sort of but to shut out white people from intelligence

00:50:11.040 roles that's like you know well it's illegal i mean it's actively illegal yeah maybe yeah it's

00:50:17.220 illegal and also like that matters if you're going to pick a demographic pick stupid people

00:50:22.180 how about that you know what i mean i don't know i do see there's a 10 to 11 week course there that's

00:50:27.660 for those of ethnic minority and from a socially economic disadvantaged background obviously as a

00:50:32.020 man cunian accent that i once had that disadvantage i should i agree go straight away and i'll see if

00:50:37.100 the mi5 will take me i doubt very much because i believe in right-wing conservative well yeah you

00:50:42.440 you're definitely you're definitely not someone who gets human rights you definitely will be and

00:50:47.740 all the recruitment ads for the military were the usual sort of dei

00:50:51.940 so this yeah so this basically has a british british soldier stopping to to pray ramadan for

00:51:01.280 yeah whatever it is whatever muslims do but not representative of the muslim experience of the

00:51:06.400 brish army though is that that's the thing like for anyone doesn't know more muslims joined isis than

00:51:11.680 the brish army whilst he's doing that and everybody else can actually he's holding his hand up saying

00:51:17.240 you wait there because someone might just shoot him any moment to be honest because whilst we're

00:51:23.200 keeping quiet not watching the enemy yeah you know that's what's happening how is yeah that's

00:51:27.720 the thing like him doing this is more important than everyone else's priority yeah everyone else

00:51:32.160 is doing the job yeah exactly you know it's like no you can't have that yeah seriously he could

00:51:37.080 have been shot by anyone watching that going hang on look they're all stopping for you know ramadan

00:51:41.140 yeah the british guys are going to stop and have a morris dance yeah while they're you know being

00:51:45.200 spotted by a reaper drone it's nonsense and interestingly so the the claim that more british

00:51:51.560 muslims fought for isis than fought for uh fought in the british military was fact checked

00:51:56.800 by the guardian who said it's not true because many of the british muslims who fought for isis

00:52:01.720 have returned home to britain oh well that's good checkmate donald so because they didn't go

00:52:09.760 actually back to afghanistan but therefore okay they're one of us yeah they're on rotation at the

00:52:15.120 i'm so glad they're home you know i was worried about their safety god damn it absolutely mental

00:52:21.480 and the the government is punishing the military and taking away perks i mean you're you're talking

00:52:25.480 before about how the sas um aren't you know they're running the risk of prosecution for uh

00:52:31.540 activities on the battlefield um they're they're losing these these tax perks so you know they get

00:52:36.960 this pension death tax as well i mean obviously you know one of the things if you because soldiers

00:52:41.300 aren't aren't paid a lot compared to you know most people especially considering the sort of level of

00:52:46.820 you know commitment and risk and stuff like that so people aren't doing it for the money but at least

00:52:51.580 for the small amount of money they're getting don't like don't like don't take perks away from them

00:52:56.340 it's ridiculous so basically off-duty deaths in service will be subject to inheritance tax

00:53:00.520 as children or partners of unmarried servicemen face charges um and also military servicemen

00:53:06.540 were discharged in america and chastised or disciplined in britain for not having the covid

00:53:11.940 vaccine i'm not sure um yeah so they're still reviewing possible discipline of troops it says

00:53:17.120 there and the people who fight who might fight the hardest who you know might be willing to go to

00:53:21.680 ukraine because i know people in the military who basically just want to fight you know you know

00:53:25.620 they joined up to fight and um what else would you join them yeah yeah and uh this this is how a

00:53:32.000 veteran was treated by by his government by the british government uh so he expressed this is after

00:53:37.020 the southport attacks where you know obviously these little girls were stabbed by by a second

00:53:42.720 generation migrant or uh if you're the if you're the mass media um uh 100 british welsh christian

00:53:49.480 choir boy uh so this guy just posted a video that was completely valid all the all the opinions he

00:53:56.300 expressed were valid he was specifically uh peaceful he said you know don't he said don't

00:54:01.580 do anything violent but you know these are some questions we need to ask and all this sort of

00:54:04.860 stuff um and it was i watched it i was like you know it was actually very reasoned considering you

00:54:10.720 know what had just happened absolutely um and he was prosecuted by the state so many people who

00:54:15.760 were who were prosecuted just were told i don't know if there was collusion going on between duty

00:54:20.040 solicitors and magistrates and courts and the the government but so many people uh just pled guilty

00:54:26.260 pleaded guilty and were obviously promised oh you get a lighter sentence and also you know if you if

00:54:32.380 you plead not guilty you'll be held on remand so it's basically the same thing and then they got

00:54:35.880 ridiculously long sentences like lucy connelly who's a young mother for a tweet that didn't you know have

00:54:40.980 any real world impact she got like 30 odd months in prison it's disgusting she'd already you know lost a

00:54:46.740 lost a child to um to sort of negligent uh immigrant doctor so you know you can understand why she might

00:54:53.860 have a you know an issue around around this so he pleaded he was one of the few that pleaded not

00:55:00.320 guilty and it sort of shows it casts a question mark over the rest of the convictions because he was

00:55:06.020 cleared in 17 minutes by by a jury um so no wonder but what way to treat a treat a veteran you know i mean

00:55:13.540 so soldiers are quitting in thousands uh there are it might be just because of pay it's all the

00:55:19.840 things that we're talking about absolutely it's the desire that if we go to fight then we might

00:55:23.420 get caught as we've talked about yeah have our rights removed and what am i fighting for and i've

00:55:27.940 certainly got to leave my children here yeah absolutely that's a really superbly valid point

00:55:32.320 yeah why would you defend the borders of another country when we are not defending the borders of our

00:55:37.720 own country and i think you know that argument is not going to be go away easily yeah ukraine and

00:55:42.360 poland they're showing you know how you defend borders you have borders and you resolutely defend

00:55:47.540 them and britain is just not a safe country anymore like there's the kind of psychic landscape that i

00:55:52.280 mean you know people of our sort of age we remember what it was like when we were sort of 20 years old

00:55:56.520 and you just go out on friday night you just go get absolutely pissed and you would snag at home you

00:56:00.360 know a mile or two and nothing would happen and you would never expect anything to happen

00:56:04.080 i wouldn't do that now i would think jesus christ not with the people wandering around there

00:56:08.160 it's dangerous now i'm not leaving my family without me to help them you knew you knew the

00:56:13.440 fights when you saw them in the pubs in the balance but the people weren't waiting in corners

00:56:17.840 waiting for you to come home to rob you or steal from you yeah yeah the same way that we're seeing

00:56:21.920 now and the sort of predatory element like the somalian guy who uh he raped a woman to death on a park

00:56:27.540 bench and uh you know like yeah basically if you want to protect your family you've got to stay in the

00:56:33.760 uk you've got to stay near your family it's uh it's ridiculous and yeah british youth don't want to

00:56:39.600 fight anyway um we've got this next clip yeah would you believe looking at them that they don't want to

00:56:45.680 fight uh because we've also alongside this sort of you know our patriotism turning into a hate crime

00:56:53.160 you know any sort of nationalism um being a being a hate crime we've also had a sort of pussification

00:56:59.500 of our society yes where you know young men aren't taught to be masculine unless it's by andrew tate

00:57:06.140 you know everybody's just trying to turn them into the weakest gimps in the world it's just it's

00:57:13.020 just a comment on the right would you fight for the country no no no no you do for your citizenship

00:57:20.860 so you're not i'm not fighting i have no answer patriotism in my body whatsoever really no i just

00:57:26.620 can't be bothered no can't be bothered okay but also we're all trans so like that's a hot topic isn't it

00:57:33.340 how does being trans come into the conversation i think like well especially in america they've just

00:57:37.660 outlawed trans people during the military so i don't know what that situation means for us in the future

00:57:42.060 but i can't wear this to the bloody imagine me in the barracks like no it's not happening

00:57:47.820 the last thing jesus christ sick of hearing no one will touch you yeah yeah sick of hearing from them

00:57:54.620 just call me old-fashioned i just i just want cromwell to take over that's all i want

00:57:59.980 and also so that's the that's a sort of i guess native british population but we've also got an issue

00:58:07.660 with uh with with the immigrants not seeing themselves as you know british first uh you

00:58:16.060 know and this isn't this isn't uh i'm not making a sweeping generalization here i know black guys who

00:58:23.500 served in the military who see themselves as you know completely uh completely british and you know

00:58:29.500 way more patriotic and british than a lot of white people apparently we've just seen but you know there are

00:58:36.140 uh trends with uh with people who have come from overseas or have uh have um you know their origin

00:58:41.900 from overseas who don't you know who don't see their their heart is a different generation it's

00:58:48.220 what they didn't see was what happened in the second world war there isn't a cultural links together

00:58:52.860 and i think when you remove the cultural connectivity we're not like the roman army where they gave you

00:58:58.860 citizenship as long as you fought for a long time i know the european union which try and create that

00:59:03.340 ideology but we're way away from that now yeah the thing is as well like what i think what you're

00:59:09.980 thinking of is um older gentlemen right who who grew up in a country that didn't that wasn't ruled under

00:59:17.340 the doctrine of multiculturalism right because everything about a culture that is self-confident

00:59:23.260 and monocultural is about integration and it genuinely is i mean notice we never have the conversation

00:59:28.540 about integration anymore like oh how are these people what do you mean integrating that they have their own

00:59:32.700 little ethnic enclave and that's how things are and so you've essentially said there is no country

00:59:37.500 what there are are these privileged uh little groups have their own almost little sovereignties

00:59:42.380 uh well why would i fight for this of course you're not going to fight for this you know whereas if you

00:59:46.540 grew up in a monocultural society all the aspects of society were geared to making you join it you

00:59:52.140 didn't have the option of just sitting outside of it and having your own colony and the it's completely

00:59:57.340 self-evident i think you look at that roman analogy again as rome fell away you broke down into

01:00:02.060 smaller communities yeah and that's what's happening is the british empire is going away the nation

01:00:06.300 of britain is going away we're now slipping into little kind of enclaves once more to and and what

01:00:13.100 are you going to wait for wait for a king alfred to come along one day and say we can bring us all

01:00:16.300 together again i just don't think that's going to happen in the short term maybe not in the short

01:00:19.740 term but i would like another king alfred yeah that sounds like a great idea um but anyway

01:00:23.740 we're running a little more time should i you know what we'll carry on so i'll save the third segment for

01:00:27.820 monday all right cool so yeah so we've moved on to the next uh thing so this is this is in uh they

01:00:34.060 asked a bunch of migrants in sweden if you would defend sweden this isn't a video you can play

01:00:38.620 unfortunately it's just a screenshot but i can guess what their responses but the answer was no and i've

01:00:43.100 seen um i've seen a uh i've seen similar surveys and stuff saying you know people saying they they

01:00:48.780 don't identify as british and also a huge proportion of british muslims see themselves as muslim first and

01:00:56.300 british second uh way higher than in uh france and uh other in germany and other european countries

01:01:02.940 um so we've got we've got issues we've got issues in britain britain likes to pretend that we've done

01:01:06.780 multiculturalism we've done you know integration in a different way and it's better it absolutely

01:01:11.820 it absolutely is not and you know like you see you know this whole idea of integration there isn't uh

01:01:17.340 in a lot of places there isn't a british society for people to integrate into so they're born into even

01:01:22.780 you know second third fourth generation migrants are born into a foreign culture within this country

01:01:27.820 the only integration that occurs is when you've been to university and they've got real wealth

01:01:31.900 yeah so you integrate now because my friend was at university they're a muslim they're a doctor

01:01:37.420 or they're you know act from somalia and they're a lawyer yeah and but we've all we're all making 100

01:01:42.540 150 grand 200 grand a year and we can all live in sorry or we've got a nice little apartment in this

01:01:48.380 part of canary wharf we're we're a multicultural mix of wealth based on our that level of culture

01:01:55.660 but that's our pod yeah that's our little pod that we're in we don't see those elsewhere in the

01:02:00.380 country because we've just become like any other upper middle class group or middle middle class group

01:02:05.740 across the world we're the internationalists and we don't really care about this lot yep absolutely

01:02:11.340 and i think that's why there's such scorn and disdain for you know when the when the southport riots

01:02:15.260 happened you know people were like oh my god why aren't you because they're not white working

01:02:18.940 class oh my god understanding this isn't the same as you know tez from the tennis club this is you know

01:02:25.660 and this goes back to our first argument rupert gets that no yeah right the whole the whole way

01:02:31.660 that immigration has been done in this country has just been openly destructive as well uh the the

01:02:36.300 idea that someone can oh okay well rubble stamp your visa you can just come and live in england it's

01:02:41.100 like okay but what just just it's just completely free is it because you know what you're going to

01:02:46.860 get from that because i mean if the chinese said right okay europeans come on over to china right

01:02:51.180 we're gonna we're gonna make sure that the the laws favor you we're gonna make sure the media favors you

01:02:55.340 we're gonna make sure that you're advanced through dei schemes through all of the institutions and you

01:02:59.980 can just do whatever you want you know we're going to give you chinese money you know you'd be like

01:03:04.220 okay well this is crazy but i'm up for it because why wouldn't i take advantage of this but what are you

01:03:08.940 going to get right are you going to get this sort of weird sort of gestalt european area or are you

01:03:15.500 going to get the english area the french area the german area you know the irish area you're going to

01:03:19.420 get these little ethnic enclaves from europeans in china because you know it's just easier it's just

01:03:25.820 easier to live around people that you know have a familiar pattern of life you share a language you

01:03:30.540 share expectations where did that happen in in a proper real time the united states yes because

01:03:36.620 everybody fled europe they went to different parts of the united states where their community

01:03:41.340 were but the but what's interesting is that in i think it's the early 19th century in the united

01:03:46.300 states they were they were becoming aware that oh parts like there are so many germans that actually

01:03:50.300 we have to start aggressively asserting the anglo culture no no they did and they they literally

01:03:56.940 aggressively asserted at the state level saying no you are not allowed to speak german so this is why

01:04:01.740 like donald trump is not drumpf right so immigrants to the united states would anglicize their names

01:04:06.700 they'd be like oh yeah no i'm going to take on an english sounding name so people will accept me and

01:04:10.780 i'll fit in and this is this is how integration actually works yeah we have done nothing of that i

01:04:15.340 mean it you like there are stories of people in the early 20th centuries like yeah well you know when

01:04:20.620 my parents came in from poland we were forbidden from speaking polish in the house right we had to speak

01:04:25.180 english because we wanted to integrate that's right that was that's what you would have to do

01:04:30.300 if you wanted immigration integration and we've done nothing we do the we do the opposite we do

01:04:34.940 the opposite their own language and we as a translator yeah yeah yeah it's so it's not it's it's like it

01:04:41.420 was deliberately designed to destroy the country destroy the solidarity of the country and leave us

01:04:46.940 with areas of the country that are frankly not english not welsh not scottish and why why are they

01:04:53.420 surprised that nobody wants to fight for this and this is the shock i think they're finding this now

01:04:58.140 going oh we didn't really think this would happen yeah yeah you asked your client groups that you've

01:05:02.380 brought over and given them all of our money and all of the all the grace of the state you know the

01:05:06.780 laws and everything all that's in their favor you ask them to fight for this and they're like we're not

01:05:10.460 fighting for this why would we fight for this well yeah if we move on to the next little video so

01:05:14.540 talking to a friend from ukraine uh he was saying so this is um this is we can play this without without

01:05:20.700 the sound this is when the russian invasion first kicked off uh migrants to ukraine because there

01:05:28.140 were a few were trying to leave on the trains and sort of blocking some of them are blocking the women

01:05:33.820 and children from the trains this was reported in the guardian and stuff is this is racist they're

01:05:37.740 dragging the africans and the black people off of buses drag dragging african men off of buses and

01:05:43.180 also you know i mean why like we're told that when people come to a country that they're a hundred

01:05:49.500 percent british as soon as they step step foot in the soil so why are they leaving instead of

01:05:54.140 fighting why are these ukrainian men fleeing yeah why are the ukrainian men having to spill their blood

01:05:59.260 whereas you know the immigrants have enjoyed the the benefits of the the culture in the country that

01:06:04.140 ukrainian men and women created can can flee it's it's nonsense are we going to see that in the uk

01:06:10.220 it's uh like so yeah yeah you absolutely if there was a war that broke out in the uk it would be the

01:06:15.820 quickest way of draining the excess immigrant population so that's the counterfactual isn't

01:06:20.060 it let's start a war just so we can get rid of them yeah yeah the idea that people coming across

01:06:23.260 the border are going to be prepared to fight for this country is pretty ridiculous i mean they weren't

01:06:27.020 the whole point of an asylum seeker is they weren't prepared to fight for their own country

01:06:30.540 and in fact just sorry just on that i actually loathe the idea that we can take

01:06:34.940 you know healthy adult men as asylum seekers so the idea is just like no that should just not be an

01:06:40.780 asylum seeker no you're you're old enough to fight and hold join your country's army get over

01:06:45.980 there we'll send you money we'll give you guns i don't know we'll help them right i'm happy to help

01:06:49.740 them but no you're not an asylum seeker you're a coward and if it was just women coming across

01:06:54.780 on the boats nobody would mind no well no they would the the old joke being the women would form

01:07:00.700 ss squads overnight right they were like absolutely not like you know if my if my neighborhood was

01:07:07.660 flooded with beautiful ukrainian women i think the wives of the neighborhood would be really upset

01:07:12.380 about it and in fact we could be fueling civil war with mass immigration this constant you know

01:07:19.580 constant talking down of uh of nativism and and uh patriotism uh this is i think this is what you're

01:07:25.260 referring to earlier so this is the article by david betts who's a professor of war in the modern

01:07:30.460 world in the department of war studies king's college london where he heads the m8 war studies program

01:07:36.220 and incredible i've just i've been listening to to his uh with a bunch of podcasts louis perry

01:07:43.340 culture forum and this article in particular civil war comes to the west really interesting so he

01:07:48.860 basically warns that the shift from a homogenous society to heterogeneous or multicultural society is

01:07:54.620 dangerous because you've got a native population that's increasingly aware that they're losing

01:07:59.580 uh sort of majority status they're being de-ranked um and so that's when you can get conflict and

01:08:06.540 obviously everything that the establishment is doing uh in in terms of you know making it really

01:08:12.460 obvious that there's two tiers like the recent sentencing guidelines that said you know ethnic

01:08:16.700 minority people get shorter sentences get special treatment everything they do is really overt and is

01:08:22.220 really antagonizing to the native population so just so the thing again like going back to the

01:08:27.740 china example of china was like europeans come on over yeah form your own little ethnic congress can you

01:08:31.660 imagine if the chinese government's right right okay you're going to get shorter sentences than native

01:08:35.340 chinese people yeah i mean i why are you doing this to yourselves well it's it's one of the weirdest

01:08:40.380 concepts but when you look at this and you can say the you saw what happened in south africa yeah where

01:08:46.300 there was a quite a an element of white working class poverty the africaners in there and they had

01:08:53.420 to build their own enclaves to protect themselves as the very wealthy rich white people started to either

01:08:59.660 leave the country or leave them in the powers of those who we now know in charge of stealing farms

01:09:05.340 taking assets actual you have those enclaves still exist we don't see that promoted too much on our

01:09:11.340 television we saw what happened in zimbabwe if you were white and poor there you effectively

01:09:16.140 left or you were killed yeah and so when david betts talks about this the the situation is not

01:09:21.820 like that now but it's the way that it's developing it's the pockets that are being created and

01:09:27.900 everything that we said about you know mass immigration if you don't allow integration they're

01:09:32.060 not going to only occur on smaller numbers whilst you've got an economy that's growing those things

01:09:37.900 are coming to to pass now and you have academics like david betts who is he admits he's of the left

01:09:44.300 yeah you know he's not a right wing almost every academic is and and he is now warning this and

01:09:49.340 yet are they beginning to pick this up at all i don't know but this is really an important piece

01:09:54.940 of research that advances the arguments yeah and the conditions are ripe for for civil war in the uk

01:10:00.860 within the next decade basically um yeah so it's this is why this is why they're going so hard on young

01:10:08.860 white men at the moment right this is why like you see them in parliament they see this uh adolescence

01:10:13.660 thing where they're going at them and saying well look why you know and the the way that they approach

01:10:19.260 it as well as if like it's a you know a bunch of menopausal women surrounding young man going right

01:10:25.340 why aren't you acting like a young girl basically and it's like look you could you know these young

01:10:30.300 men don't know what to say to any of this because this is an alien environment they don't know what's

01:10:34.780 happening but the sense that they are having their birthrights stolen from them is perennial it is

01:10:41.900 inside of them and they don't know what to do and this is what the establishment is currently most

01:10:45.900 afraid of that young white men are just like you know what we can actually cooperate yeah you know

01:10:50.140 if there's if there's one thing that young white men have shown through the ages is that they they

01:10:55.020 can cooperate very very successfully and so if you're the hr ladies running britain at the moment you're

01:11:00.140 like so what they're they might all just get together on social media or something but yeah they might

01:11:04.140 actually and you can see they're genuinely afraid of it and it's things like this david betts if i

01:11:09.980 recall correctly he says that the thing that's missing is essentially the leader to unite them

01:11:14.060 together to actually start it so okay but when someone says you okay young white men let's go

01:11:18.620 let's do this yeah well then it's on and do we think that the multicultural establishment is actually

01:11:23.020 going to be able to stop them do we think they're gonna not without real violence not without and

01:11:28.300 this is why you have organizations like hope not hate even even even if they use real violence

01:11:34.780 i don't know that they can do it well i think if they use real violence because i mean during the

01:11:38.540 southport riots i was wondering you know how close are we to the military being called in you

01:11:42.380 know this looks like it's spiraling out of control and the police won't be won't be able to

01:11:46.540 deal with it they're not used they're not they're not designed to deal with you know that kind of

01:11:50.140 level of massive the five foot two high-vis wearing indian ladies aren't going to deal with

01:11:54.460 this in the rainbow painted police van yeah but you know would the military if they were called in

01:12:00.700 given that you know the majority of the military are patriotic and are kind of you know i think a

01:12:05.340 lot of them are kind of not happy with how the how the direction they travel in the country

01:12:10.620 would they acquiesce to turning their guns on their cousins and their neighbors well i'm intrigued

01:12:16.380 about that because i looked back we were going to talk about uh the peter massacre and the peter

01:12:21.340 massacre had similar sort of things you had the omen came in and admittedly many of the omen were

01:12:26.940 actually people who were reasonably wealthy but they had a number of individuals who were quite

01:12:31.820 willing to chop their own down just for the sake of a few coins now the question is would our own

01:12:37.260 military this way do exactly the same as what you've seen in ukraine in their own revolution

01:12:42.220 would they shoot their own when the revolution is saying we're now being treated so unfairly

01:12:47.180 i mean i'm mixed race we've talked about this early on and and we you know i look at the the white

01:12:52.220 end of my family and saying why should they feel so uh disenfranchised from this country whether i

01:12:59.340 can put an application form for the same job and say i'm mixed race and you're white and you know

01:13:04.140 that the mixed race element now is going to push you up the ladder much more than them that sense of

01:13:09.100 unfairness i'm cut out of jobs i'm cut out of education then on the other side you're being

01:13:13.980 told white masculinity you're you're crazed and you've got these tv shows i know we're not going

01:13:18.700 to do it today all of them de-emasculating white people white white individuals young white that is

01:13:25.020 not right and it's not on quite frankly it is quite evil if you look at the british media it's sort of like

01:13:31.660 radio rwanda against white people but with sort of fewer checks and balances you know with less of a

01:13:39.660 fair hearing if you look at the if you look at the the reality you know when you see who's doing the

01:13:46.140 stabbing you know when you see the picture of axel ruda cabana that you know 100 welsh choir boy yeah

01:13:52.140 that's it's just it's a blatant thing but then i think you know some of it is so overt and so ridiculous

01:13:57.740 once people acquiesce to something once people go along with a ridiculous position they'll defend

01:14:01.820 that position and you know you're sort of creating a a societal pressure to absolutely to go along with

01:14:06.940 that you see with these people you know saying oh i hate britain you know i hate britain they might not

01:14:10.940 actually think that but they've got to say it and then once they've said it they've got to they've got

01:14:15.020 to defend it but i think war might be a good thing for for the uk because uh it was hl menken who said

01:14:21.500 um war is a good thing because it is honest it admits the central fact of human nature a nation

01:14:26.860 too long at peace becomes a sort of gigantic old maid and that's true it's totally i'm looking at

01:14:33.420 one of those videos we saw the young maids yeah like this this thing with the um the the tv show

01:14:39.820 about the young men like all it was was like menopausal women sitting around talking to other

01:14:44.140 menopausal women about what's going on with young men it's like okay but you actually need to speak to

01:14:48.540 people like us if you want to know and you know because we we know a lot of young men because they

01:14:53.180 follow us and they're like why does everything suck now it's like yeah no i i can we can explain

01:14:57.420 that unfortunately yeah um but anyway sorry should we uh finish up this yeah let's finish up just say

01:15:01.500 as well that you know military assistance in ukraine is a kind of uh it's a kind of investment in the

01:15:05.420 future because they've got drones they've got drones that can go 3 000 kilometers now so the ukrainian

01:15:11.500 patriots will be able to take out if there is civil war in the uk ukraine will help us and they'll take out

01:15:17.180 they'll take out you know birmingham or whatever that is a line yeah that i never expected to ever

01:15:25.500 read yeah on a magazine oh yeah young chinese are too fat and masturbate too much to pass every

01:15:30.940 fitness test every country is the same yeah every country is the same to be fair i'm not uh yeah yeah

01:15:36.700 you're right every country the same yeah yeah to be fair i'm not really worried about china or russia

01:15:40.700 frankly yeah i'm worried about the government in this country yeah that's what worries i'm worried about my

01:15:45.900 own yeah what's happening above yeah i've got to be honest if china took over the country i i don't

01:15:51.420 think i'd feel more restricted i'm not saying it's a good idea not saying i support it but you know

01:15:55.980 there's there's at least living under china you know what you can and you can't see and there is

01:16:00.380 you know they've they've managed to sort of foster this this patriotism and national pride and i think

01:16:05.340 that's why they've managed to have a communist system that hasn't hasn't fallen apart well this is

01:16:09.180 this is the point that i think that the old maids currently running the country and importing as many

01:16:13.660 islamists into it aren't really considering is that i'm a man all i have to do is convert to islam

01:16:19.260 and i become a sharia enforcer you're wearing your burqas right you keep doing this i'm going

01:16:24.140 to convert i'm going to become a sharia enforcer this is a threat i will absolutely convert i will

01:16:30.780 take you as my second third and fourth wives so maybe think about it and we'll also we'll bring

01:16:35.420 a picnic along to the football stadium and watch you being flogged okay calm down i don't

01:16:39.340 i thought the burqa was far enough anyway let's uh let's read some comments so zenothium says uh

01:16:46.380 of 20 20 dollars thank you says here's some money for pints and to keep the lights on appreciate the

01:16:50.220 great guests see if the lads are uh scanline says the book voice of war is about letters sent to

01:16:55.980 british people who lived through world war ii and how they liked and how if they liked the how the

01:17:00.540 country had changed after it winning overwhelmingly negative and full of regret really yeah wow yeah

01:17:06.140 there they're there are a bunch of um interviews you can see from people in like the 70s and it's

01:17:11.260 like you know this is not this is not what we expected well imagine if they saw it now yeah

01:17:16.220 i look back to the 90s is a good time i i would say it's the 80s 90s but that was the that was the

01:17:21.820 point that the curve started descending rapidly yeah we were lucky to have actually had those years we

01:17:27.260 were yeah we genuinely and i i we've you know we speak to lots of zoomers who just have no idea what

01:17:32.380 it was like to live in a nice country yeah you know they just have no idea and it's like um jay

01:17:38.060 says i'm 67 so i don't think i'll see the results of the current lunacy we're not voting my way out

01:17:42.540 of this because there's no one to vote for so on that note that's a great point um this is something

01:17:47.660 again i've heard from reform supporters a lot well they're your only option it's like okay but that's

01:17:52.780 only true for as long as they are the only option yeah what if something else comes along i think

01:17:58.140 is something came along with individuals who had the capability of combining a reasonable amount

01:18:03.020 of money and that's be only needs to be about five to six million pounds a year over a five-year period

01:18:09.020 plus the capability of utilizing good people over social media that then expands across the networks

01:18:16.620 then we will have a challenger party that would actually be able to do this within a year or two

01:18:21.740 and i don't think it's a four or five years like reform i think if they've got the right people and

01:18:26.060 the right message along with that technology behind them one year two will take reform out yeah harry

01:18:32.140 we won't worry about the video comments today just for time reasons um but the um yeah now this is this

01:18:37.180 is a point that i've been ruminating on as well because it seems to me that there is a very large and

01:18:44.700 disenfranchised activist base on the right there are there's a huge section of right-wing social media

01:18:51.100 influences and you know us uh who have got no one to throw our support behind and then there's a huge

01:18:58.060 amount of frankly you know stepped on uh right-wing patriotic politicians who would love to have just

01:19:05.420 an honest party to move into that wasn't trying to destroy them that was actually you know we could

01:19:10.380 we actually have to fix the country right we actually have to do this and i i think someone asked me

01:19:14.860 recently on another podcast is would i stand and that question you've raised there is honesty yes i

01:19:21.260 have to really believe that the individuals who are behind this generally want to save the country

01:19:26.380 help the people who are struggling to be able to feed their own children and look after and pay their

01:19:30.860 own bills who are concerned about the health of their own grandparents and parents as well we've got

01:19:36.380 to have somebody that is willing to change our education system to give people hope not just

01:19:41.500 criticize individuals because of their color or their white that is not acceptable in this nation

01:19:46.140 return to what we were all about what was about the nation that made us so great and if they are able

01:19:53.100 to do that with the honesty and decency then they would have people like me on board yeah at the moment

01:19:58.460 we don't see that at all we see people scrabbling around just not being able to deliver in any really

01:20:05.340 effective and genuine way yeah well i think the only two sort of people on the right who have the

01:20:12.140 the the ability to rouse voters in such a way are boris johnson and nigel farage and unfortunately boris

01:20:18.860 johnson has shown us that he just he's like he's worse he's worse is a lib he's worse than the blow

01:20:24.220 he's worse he's worse than a lib because he pretends yeah he's worse yeah he says all this stuff i think

01:20:28.060 farage uh still you know i think this rupert lowe stuff i think it'll blow over maybe maybe it'll change the

01:20:33.740 way farage approaches politics maybe it's maybe it's going to be a teachable moment as uh as people

01:20:40.060 but i tell you what if ben habib and rupert lowe do start something i i would think it would be very

01:20:44.620 serious i think they would be incredibly serious with the right backing it strikes me that basically

01:20:49.820 it's kind of like a house that's all joined up but just laying on the ground and all it needs is

01:20:54.300 someone to pull it and the whole thing springs into life locked together with a you know the entire

01:21:00.460 engine can just start roaring into life you know and everything can suddenly start hitting the ground

01:21:05.260 running and it's bizarre that farage didn't do this but he didn't look at the the landscape and

01:21:10.220 like okay no i can just grab all of this and yank it up and then just you know be 40 strength of the

01:21:15.100 young vote out there that's feeling alienated and many of them have come towards reform because they

01:21:20.460 genuinely believe that that was the vehicle that could change bringing in the individuals that they

01:21:24.940 respect and care about and want that that will actually generate energy and enthusiasm on the

01:21:30.860 streets where farage is successful he's managed to hold on to the post 55 year old plus people who

01:21:37.180 are seeing it and saying this is our last hope my fingers through desperation but if they now can see

01:21:42.460 what he's doing and somebody else who has a better vision and has that capability they will go you know

01:21:48.780 i'm not along with him bearing in mind that there's also a group of people out there that really are like

01:21:53.500 them but won't vote for them as you pointed out with the numbers who don't like farage so new

01:22:00.220 individuals capable of doing that i think there's a real real chance but they've got a small window

01:22:06.220 i agree um joe flanagan says nigel farage is such a disappointment i hope the uk can build a party

01:22:11.580 without him one that can actually fix its issues before a full-scale reconquista becomes necessary

01:22:16.780 um yeah and well me too you know i i do think the window for us to be able to do something like that

01:22:22.140 is closing um colin says listening to you champs this made me wonder if nigel is suffering from

01:22:27.260 one might call the sort of great man of history syndrome thinking that he is the said person and

01:22:31.900 anyone else might try and take away from that i mean maybe but the the thing about like the great

01:22:37.100 men of history is that they are able to adequately harness the talent around them it's like everyone

01:22:41.660 knows who napoleon's marshals were right everyone knows because napoleon was like i need a talented guy

01:22:47.340 to go to spain and deal with wellington or whatever you know you're like you can't do it

01:22:51.980 all yourself but then look at look at stalin another another great man of history not not

01:22:57.980 not like a great guy no no no no he purged regularly purged any talent in his cabinet he did he purged

01:23:04.780 his people in open graves on a regular basis yeah yeah but he had the uh advantage of having a

01:23:10.700 a totalitarian communist system yeah just like britain just like reform but this is this is the

01:23:18.940 problem though it's like it doesn't have to be this way like look at trump's republican party

01:23:22.780 it looks vital you know it looks healthy it looks like they are happy to do what they're doing and

01:23:27.580 there doesn't seem to be any discord in the ranks even though like they've all got like when when rfk was

01:23:31.740 allowed to have his maha uh thing make america healthy again like farage would have come out and

01:23:36.300 be like no that wasn't my message you know trump just let it go no let it let him have it you know

01:23:40.780 and it's like there's no reason we need to be insecure about any of these things you know everyone's

01:23:45.100 actually on the same on the same page let's let's make things better it can be done um so sophie asks

01:23:52.940 are any of the allegations true it's like well the only allegation against rupert lowe that's still uh

01:23:57.820 standing is the one zia yusuf has leveled um because zia yusuf has um made it seem that a 67 year

01:24:05.180 old man is a big threat to him as a 38 year old man zia went to the police didn't you you

01:24:10.300 pussy anyway that's the thing that's the most damaging thing about it is there it's a sort of

01:24:15.180 wet you absolutely it's a lefty tactic yeah yeah they sort of be like eminent

01:24:19.260 sorry grandpa's bullying you is he shut up you know shut up no respect um one uh one purpose of the

01:24:28.220 draft will be to drain britain of her native population this is the point you're making

01:24:31.740 thus weakening the greatest threat to the communist socialist fascist regime that is the uniparty

01:24:37.340 um i you know the thing about these sorts of uh overarching uh chess moves is i'm i i've met a lot

01:24:45.740 of mps i've met a lot of politicians i've met some civil servants and none of them struck me as being

01:24:50.780 very intelligent people and you need a significant amount of brain power to pull off a plan like that

01:24:55.980 and so i think that it's actually just a sort of downstream consequence of the making bad decision

01:25:01.100 after bad decision after bad decision rather than planning this to happen it will end up being

01:25:05.180 the consequence of it and and the thing is i could be wrong it could be there is the planners are

01:25:09.740 genuinely uh much brighter and the planners come from the international organizations that's where they

01:25:16.380 lots of these are drafted in the first instance they are the places of the un they are the european

01:25:21.980 parliament in the commission these are individuals who see a picture in the long term obviously people

01:25:27.340 talk about the world economic forum but there are also different little organizations all over the

01:25:32.860 world that have different groups of billionaires and corporates and academics all working together

01:25:38.860 all seeking funding from the top it's follow the money where the money funds up to the top those are

01:25:45.100 the individuals who are dishing it out and they want an agenda set and if how many times you get

01:25:50.700 politicians and political parties are using information based that's coming down we know

01:25:56.380 that tony blair is feeding huge amounts to his organization into the labor party that's becoming

01:26:01.660 part of their policy he's not elected he is a very wealthy man and he's getting money from all over

01:26:07.420 but equally he works along with those same organizations lars has got uh some good advice for any young men

01:26:13.580 who are worried about being conscripted uh he says the best way to avoid being conscripted is to

01:26:18.300 volunteer and give a bonkers reason for it it would be refused um so yeah you could go up and say look

01:26:24.460 i'm just really racist and i just really want to get into the army and they'll refuse you so yeah good

01:26:29.340 good point um arizona desert rat says uh i would make i would argue that the americans make the most

01:26:34.220 obnoxious tourists even in the us most tourists annoy me in edinburgh they're a nightmare like going

01:26:40.860 up and doing the fringe because edinburgh is built for like you know one guy to drive a donkey along

01:26:45.100 yeah so there's no there's no space the pavements are so small you get an american arse on there you

01:26:50.380 know like buses can't get passed you know edinburgh is a lovely lovely city yeah very very beautiful

01:26:56.380 place uh omar says in britain you have freedom of speech not just not freedom of think uh if anyone

01:27:01.820 finds that confusing don't worry there will be plenty of mind reading mind reading judges to judge

01:27:06.380 adjudicate and execute you based on the level of hatred divine from your political compass and this is

01:27:11.420 this is the non-crime hate instance uh just the idea that anyone would be like no i have to fight

01:27:16.780 for this order it's like but this even if you wanted like you know the gay race communist international

01:27:23.340 liberal order right this is a crap version of it yeah like this this is this is poor this is on the

01:27:29.820 on the verge of civil war you know like this has not been done with any competence yeah you know there

01:27:34.700 are going to be you know far more competent like european countries that have gay race communism

01:27:39.180 in the international liberal order and like ours is again like everything that britain has ever done

01:27:45.020 been done cack-handedly you know and it's just like this is just not even do woke well no we can't

01:27:51.900 and we get so friendly i i tweeted the other day that look i think britain is going to end up being

01:27:56.460 like the lithuania of woke uh do you get that reference lithuania was the last pagan state in europe

01:28:04.300 right right until like the 15th century and eventually they'd had crusades against them

01:28:09.020 they'd had you know everything against them surrounded by christian powers and they were

01:28:12.380 just like no we just don't care which is not changing until they wanted political access to

01:28:16.140 poland and so they end up converting for political reasons um but that's what's essentially britain's

01:28:21.100 going to be like with woke everyone else is like oh yeah this work stuff's actually terrible isn't

01:28:24.140 it and starm was like no like i saw the other day that all criminals will be able to choose their

01:28:28.780 gender still it's like what are you doing what are you doing this destroyed nicolas

01:28:31.980 sturgeon do you want it to destroy you like what are you doing everyone around the world's like

01:28:35.900 okay now that's bonkers you know why why would we agree to that and yet yvette cooper doubling down

01:28:41.580 on this yeah it's because they're living in a completely different stratosphere where you know

01:28:46.700 they're surrounded by these advisors these special advisors and ngos who are you know paid shady money

01:28:52.780 to pump these weird opinions towards towards the government we're going to be talked about about a

01:28:57.420 thousand of them are coming in when they're coming to government and suddenly they're getting more

01:29:00.540 money than they've ever had and more opportunities to make more money so they'll do it between their

01:29:05.180 own groups exactly the way that i discovered us aid were funding various charities and organizations

01:29:11.740 here to take on the government in relation to immigration cases yeah why should a fund that was

01:29:18.220 supposed to help in foreign aid to help people who are starving actually help people who are trying to

01:29:24.060 come into this country and destroy on our nation it's mad it's absolutely madness but again like

01:29:29.500 i said you you wouldn't if you even if you wanted the end result they're looking for you wouldn't run

01:29:32.700 it this way this is a catastrophe waiting to happen um anyway so on that note i think we're out of time

01:29:38.860 so steven uh where can people find more from you if they'd like to see more from you well mainly

01:29:42.860 ideal well either x now or the center for migration and economic prosperity x uh it's steven wolf one i think

01:29:49.820 actually i mean can we pull that up harry yeah i think i need it just uh just to make sure that

01:29:54.780 we've got the right one yeah because i i had to i was talking about it early on is i had to close down

01:29:59.980 the whole of my x accounts and uh facebook and i had over 100 000 followers at one stage

01:30:06.700 purely because i was cancelled i couldn't get work as a lawyer right so steven wolf one yep right so

01:30:13.420 that's my x i just followed you and then thank you thank you and c map uk is c m e p uk one and

01:30:20.460 that's the center for migration and economic prosperity and what i do on that is i put out

01:30:25.100 numbers so this weekend i'll be putting the updated channel migrant numbers the cost to the country the

01:30:30.860 amount that the people smugglers make on that and i will do that i do that regularly on a week or a

01:30:36.780 month basis but we're building that out again actually oddly enough um people have started to want

01:30:42.460 to be interested in population uh the criminal statistics and i'd run that as quite a little

01:30:48.060 bit of a hobby for a while uh because we didn't really get to the level where you are with these

01:30:52.700 cells but we we got really good numbers out there and they're going to start coming out for more

01:30:57.340 people to get the evidence we're going to run a particular one called cmet verify so whenever you

01:31:02.620 see the bbc or others talk about immigration we'll have that verified and if people say steven tell me

01:31:08.380 the verification of this particular evidence we'll pump that so that everybody gets the right evidence

01:31:13.260 rather than what's being pumped to them and leo where can people find more from you i'm on twitter

01:31:17.340 leo cares and i'm on youtube leo cares as well i'm doing i've got 140 000 subscribers on youtube

01:31:24.940 you can give me money on patreon and so it's about the same as a netflix subscription but you only get a

01:31:30.060 couple of like homemade youtube videos instead of all the stuff you get so it's like a really bad netflix

01:31:35.580 it's like netflix but without buyer's remorse well yeah and also i don't try and turn your

01:31:39.900 kids gay that's a good point but what about your famous instagram as well instagram oh scottish

01:31:44.620 comedian yeah that's great i love it i never really post on that maybe i know it's just really funny

01:31:49.180 that you managed to get scottish comedian i couldn't believe scottish comedian was available yeah oh

01:31:53.180 that's fantastic anyway thank you so much for joining us folks and uh we will be back in half

01:31:57.660 now for lads hour so we'll see you then bye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - March 21, 2025

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