The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1129
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Summary
In Episode 1129 of The Lotus Eaters, Josh and Harry discuss Jeffrey Goldberg's revelation that he was accidentally invited into a secret government group chat, and whether that's a good or bad thing. They also discuss the Snow White and Assassin's Creed disaster, and the growing surveillance state in the UK.
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Hello there and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1129. I'm your host Harry
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joined today by Josh. Hello. And we've got some right slop for you today. We're going to be
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talking about the Trump war leaks and whether they're legitimate or not and what they mean.
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The unexpected, the most unexpected thing ever being that Snow White flopped and Assassin's
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Creed is bad. And we're going to finish off by talking about Netflix's Adolescence, a true
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false story that's being used to allow for more surveillance state in Britain.
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Yay. And propagandising children as well. I mean, that's all television's ever been for.
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That's true. That's true. Including if you're a grown adult watching television, you are a child
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being propagandised too. And with that, I think that's all I need to say. Let's get into the news.
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Okay, so this fellow is Jeffrey Goldberg. He is the editor-in-chief at The Atlantic. And he was
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seemingly, and I say seemingly, accidentally added to a group chat where the top brass of the Trump
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administration discussed their upcoming bombing campaign in the Yemen. And apparently he found
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out about key details of this operation two hours before they happened. And this guy is also very much
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a Zionist. And that is worth mentioning when it comes to the person who accidentally added him.
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So he wrote this article about it, because of course, that's what you do when you get invited
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into a secret government chat, is you write a mainstream article about it.
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To be fair, if you're the editor of The Atlantic, then yeah.
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But also, he does claim to have omitted key details of national security significance, as well as
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certain people who held secret service positions. So some of the stuff that he's apparently seen,
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we don't know about. So we're just going to have to believe him, take him at his word for some of it.
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But, so supposedly this guy, Jeffrey Goldberg, moved to Israel to work as a prison guard in the IDF
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before returning to his career in journalism in the US. So that is important, because the person who
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was in charge of this group chat, Mike Waltz, is known as being particularly hawkish. It could be
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that they share a foreign policy agenda, I don't know.
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I would imagine that, I mean, you'll go through the article, I've not read it, but I would imagine
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he must be in favour of strikes against the Yemen and Houthis, right?
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It'd be pretty shocking if a former IDFA member wasn't.
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It would be very strange, wouldn't it? And this Mike Waltz guy, you know, I respect his service
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in Afghanistan. He did multiple combat tours, and he received four bronze stars, which have received
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for bravery. But in terms of his politics, he was defence policy director for Bush and counter-terrorism
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advisor to Cheney. So this might give you a little bit of an idea about how he views foreign
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policy, which might explain why he might have accidentally invited this guy in.
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Yeah. So most Trump supporters have been calling Goldberg a liar, from what I've seen.
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There have been a few that have taken what he said at face value, and I can see why, given
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his track record, because both he and Trump have been critical of one another, and he
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often writes things that are critical of Trump. So the fact that he can't necessarily be trusted
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I think is fair. But he has provided screenshots, and it's not been denied as fake news by anyone
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I believe it was confirmed as true by one of the agencies, correct?
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Correct. I'm going to get to that. I'm going to read the exact quote. And you often see
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J.D. Vance as well posting about stuff, because I've seen him do this on a couple of occasions
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while there's been a mainstream story doing the rounds. He did this about when he said
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a lot of European countries haven't fought a war in 40 years. He said, listen, obviously
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I didn't mean Britain and France, because they have, and I know that. And quite often he corrects
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stuff. And he's not done that in this instance, which makes it more likely, I think, that it's
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genuine. But I think the nail in the coffin for the fact that it's all made up is the fact
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that, and this is a quote from the article, so if you take this at face value, so be it.
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But Brian Hughes, the spokesman for the National Security Council, responded two hours later
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to him reaching out to them saying he's been added to this chat because he messaged the
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people involved, like what the hell is going on. And confirming the veracity of the signal
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group, this appears to be an authentic message chain and we are reviewing how an inadvertent
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number was added to the chain. So that doesn't sound like they're denying it exists. It seems
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Yeah, I would say so. And I'm just wondering, you don't accidentally add the main editor of
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The Atlantic to a chat of lots of senior politicians in the executive branch of government accidentally?
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He either has very, very fat thumbs or there has been speculation that he might have done it
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on purpose. And although I'm more willing to take this sort of thing as just an accident,
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personally, it is possible, and I'm going to walk through the arguments, obviously make
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up your own mind, you don't have to agree with me.
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Because if this was done on purpose, surely it makes basic security at the current administration
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It does, and I think that that's one of the major arguments against it, is why would they
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do something that makes them, first and foremost, look incompetent? It doesn't make sense to
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And also shows them actively bad-mouthing their European allies as well.
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We'll be getting on to that. So there's a couple of things that I think it helps sell.
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Obviously, there's potential similarities between the person who added him and the guy himself
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in foreign policy agenda. We can't necessarily know for certain. I haven't seen a sit-down
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conversation with the two people talking it over, so it's a certain amount of conjecture.
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But what it does do in leaking this is that it sells to the MAGA base that they're authentically
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America first, because they complain about Europe not dealing with the rebels. And never mind the fact
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that previously in the conversation, if it's to be taken as genuine, they admit that only
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4% of US trade goes through, what is it, the Red Sea? That little gulf.
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Basically, American ships and those countries that are aligned with...
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Yeah, and Israel, which is interesting because they're leaving a lot of European ships alone
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because most of them aren't signed on to Israel.
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And 40% of European trade stands to be interrupted by the group.
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But they point this out as if to say, we're doing this for Europe, but also Europe's not
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having their ships attacked because of our either neutral stance or actively siding with
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I'm not saying our, as in this is what I think.
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And so, the reason the US is intervening, I think, is because it's interrupting their
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And of course, they wouldn't want that, would they?
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And this should really be the elephant in the room of this story, is that they're sort
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of misrepresenting it, even in their own internal chats, as we're helping Europe, but
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I mean, surely America's biggest complaint with Europe is how much they're putting into
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And although we, you know, we should be protecting our own trade routes and the Houthi rebels, I'm
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I think it's a weak argument because it's not interrupting our trade and it's very far
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And there isn't the same appetite in Europe for foreign adventurism as there is in the
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And this is something that US citizens are, of course, going to have to foot the bill
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I'm actually kind of annoyed on your behalf that they're going out and interfering, not
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learning the lessons of, you know, post-2000s wars.
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I'd also argue that one of the main beneficiaries of this bombing campaign are the Saudis, as
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Israel benefits the most out of all of them, I think, because they're Iran-backed.
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But of course, the Saudis and Israel are both opposed to Iran.
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And so by the US doing this, they're basically saying to their allies, look, we got your
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We're putting pressure on the Iranians, basically making sure that resources are wasted and
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they don't get more influence on the Saudi Arabian Peninsula.
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So that's what I think is actually going on here, which isn't necessarily part of this
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And the second point about this, why it could possibly be linked, other than showing that
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America is being guided by America First people, although you could argue they're wasting money
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here, is that it solidifies Vance as an anti-war candidate, as he voices his objections in
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the chat to all of it, despite everyone else seemingly in agreement.
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I've seen the same thread that you're going through right now.
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Now, Vance is obviously the favourite for 2028.
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And I think that that much is, you know, the reason he's been appointed is that he's like
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And that's what Trump wants, is he wants someone to carry on his legacy after he steps down.
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And Trump was very vocally in 2015 an anti-war candidate.
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Very critical of the Democrat and former Republicans' wars.
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And he sort of remains untainted by the justification for the strikes that the others make.
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And so he has this clean reputation that, you know, okay, hey, I've got this unblemished
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record of not being in favour of any foreign intervention.
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Which I think is a plausible argument, because it's the best of both worlds for Trump.
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He still gets to do what he wants, without necessarily tainting his successor.
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Which, of course, if we look at Kamala Harris, she had to carry the burden of look at what
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But I think that it could also just be an accident.
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And it's worth mentioning as well, to call them war plans is very strong.
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That's how it's presented in this title here, in the headline.
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But as with many headlines in mainstream outlets, it's a bit misleading.
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Because as many of the people involved in this chat have said, this wasn't, you know,
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this wasn't necessarily discussing classified information.
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It was just us coordinating with each other about various things.
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But none of the top secret stuff was really in that chat, despite what he's claiming.
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Which I can believe, actually, because you wouldn't, there are lots and lots of different
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protocols in place to make sure that this sort of information doesn't leak.
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And you're not supposed to talk on Signal about these sorts of things.
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And so my guess is that they were sort of talking about it in a more informal way.
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I mean, I've seen the leak of Mike Waltz with his fist American flag fire emojis.
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I wouldn't like to know that there's top secret classified documents going around communicated
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My read of the situation is that it was a genuine chat, and he was probably added accidentally,
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but I don't know for certain, but it's just my guess.
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And that it was just more informal, and it's been exaggerated to drum up a good and interesting
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article for The Atlantic, which I think is the most likely, but it's not impossible that
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it could be the other things I've discussed, which is why I've brought them up in the first
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Again, it does seem to be a major screw-up to even an informal chat with these people,
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because it also had people like Stephen Miller and others in it, to add a journalist, and
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not just any journalist, a head editor of a hostile publication to your own administration,
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and then not notice that that's what you've done.
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It would be interesting to see whether there's any sort of discipline handed down from the
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top in the executive, because I think they are treating this like a legitimate mistake.
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Although there have been sort of attempts to deflect it and say it's not genuine, to try
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But it does seem to be genuine, at the very least.
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But it is worth mentioning as well that a lot of the bombing campaign had already been
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planned before the guy was even added to the group in the first place.
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So all of the Marshall stuff was probably not dealt with in Signal Chats, as far as we're
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But he basically just saw behind the scenes about what they fought, and a lot of it is
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stuff that if you know the people involved in the administration, you probably would have
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guessed that they would have fought these things anyway.
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Some people have been saying things like this, why didn't you just delete the messages or
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let them know you were incorrectly added to the chat?
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Sounds like you're more interested in publishing a salacious story than doing the right thing.
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I think that this criticism is fair, but I think it misses the interesting parts of this
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No journalist, right or left, if you realise that's what you've been added into, is going
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Because I think in the article he explains this, to his credit, he says, I thought at
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first it was some sort of trap trying to get me to potentially do something silly.
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I forgot what he called it, the specific term, but basically like a trap for journalists to
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make them say something stupid, and then you publish it and show the world, like, look at
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He was sort of observing it to see what the nature of the thing was, which, to be fair,
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if I were added to a chat like that, I'd probably do the same.
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You just added into a random group chat out of nowhere with a bunch of people who were
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You're not going to hang around and see what they're talking about.
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So maybe that's dishonest of me, but if you don't think that you'd do that, I think
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Lots of people point out that he has played a key role in peddling for the American war
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machine, the Iraq WMDs, Ukraine, Russiagate, Ansi Marni, I'm not sure what that one's referring
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I probably should know, and loads of other things as well.
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Here's another one, another article that he's wrote.
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Trump, Americans who died in war are losers and suckers.
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So he's just trying to smear Trump's name, isn't he?
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And he's also the Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda are working together.
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Again, they're mentioning the Russia collusion.
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And the Trump said veterans are suckers and losers.
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And I think that last one is very difficult to sell, but it's all part of the throwing
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So yes, obviously, lots of people are cynical of this guy at taking his word because look
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It's about as bumpy as it could possibly be, right?
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And let's have a look at some of the screenshots from this.
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This is the stuff that he did share because some of it he didn't.
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Let's just make sure our messaging is tight here.
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And if there are things we can do up front to minimize risk to Saudi oil facilities, we
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And then Hegsef says to Vance, I fully share your loathing of European freeloading.
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We are the only ones on the planet on our side of the ledger who can do this.
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Given POTUS directive to reopen shipping lanes, I think we should go.
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But POTUS still retains 24 hours of decision space.
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So this isn't exactly top secret, but there is a certain degree of coordination going on
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And then when it sort of happened, it was just them saying, good job.
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But there's not a lot there when you actually see the screenshot proof that
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This is where Pete's head, Seth, and I come in.
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On Tuesday, March 11, I received a connection request on Signal from a user identified as
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I assumed that Michael Waltz in question was President Donald Trump's national security
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I did not assume, however, that the request was from the actual Michael Waltz.
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I have met him in the past, and though I didn't find it particularly strange that he might
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be reaching out to me, I did think it was somewhat unusual given the Trump administration's
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contentious relationship with journalists and Trump's periodic fixation on me specifically.
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I love the way he phrases that like he's completely innocent of anything.
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It immediately crossed my mind that someone could be masquerading as Waltz in order to somehow
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It's not all uncommon these days for nefarious actors to try to induce journalists to share
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It's entrap the word that you'd been looking for.
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I then accepted the connection request, hoping that it was the actual national security advisor
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and that he wanted to chat about Ukraine or Iran or some other important matter.
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Two days later, Thursday, at 4.28pm, I received a notice that I was to be included in a Signal
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And yeah, it goes on and on and he just lists what they were talking about.
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A lot of it is quite uninteresting, unsurprising.
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There's a lot of just coordinating with one another about small things and there's not
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I'm not going to go through it all because there's just too much and it's a lot of boring
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But the gist of it is that they were probably discussing things that should have been kept
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And I think that that's a fair characterization.
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However, it's not nearly as bad as it's made out to be from the headline, as is always
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And here is the press secretary for the White House saying this, Jeffrey Goldberg is well
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The White House counsel's office has provided guidance on a number of different platforms
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for President Trump's top officials to communicate as safely and efficiently as possible.
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And they're looking into how he is inadvertently added.
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So, complete confirmation here, but they're saying similar things to me, really, that
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it's not as big a deal as it's being made out to be, but at the same time it's still
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It's still a bad look, which I can believe.
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And there are a couple of memes that I'm going to end on because they're fun.
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Of course, it has to be Big Fat Baby Vance as well.
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You've not really, you know, put that many feet wrong so far, but the edits of your face
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This was actually replied to the post of the article.
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And finally, the reaction in Europe hasn't necessarily been about the leaks themselves.
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It's been about how the top team rips into America's European allies, saying how they
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loathe having to bail out the pathetic freeloaders.
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So, obviously, it's being presented as sensationlessly as possible, as is the media's way.
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And also, I think that the European media, in particular, is pushing massively for a rift
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And there's a massive amount of intersecting agenda here for this to happen.
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And so, this has been capitalized on by lots of those forces.
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But, this leaking basically serves to strain the relationship between the US and Europe
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more generally, and even further than it was already.
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It might spur on more European independence, which I wasn't personally offended by what
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It's sort of like, Europe's not standing up for itself, and they need to be more independent.
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Well, it was strange that they were having that discussion in reference to the Houthis,
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which, as we've discussed, isn't really as much of our problem.
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Yeah, and I think in other domains, it's a lot more legitimate, like NATO.
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If it is to exist, it's fair enough that America could object to being disproportionately
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And, yeah, it strikes me as sort of a non-story to a certain extent, but it's important enough
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to actually talk about, because I think there's been a lot of smoke and mirrors about the whole
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And just breaking it down and looking at it slightly rationally is a good way of seeing
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that it wasn't a big deal, it's slightly interesting, but yeah, I think the Trump regime is going
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Also, if you didn't know America was bombing Yemen, now you do.
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This leak, while undoubtedly embarrassing, clearly wasn't a serious security breach.
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We know this because if it had been, we would have disappeared into Gitmo before ever writing
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And also, he covers those sorts of things and so understands what he can and can't publish,
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And, again, if this had happened during a President Hillary term, he would have committed suicide
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by shooting himself twice in a park that most lifelong DC residents have never heard of.
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Yeah, did you see, actually, that Hillary Clinton commented on this when the article came up
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Again, personally, outside of some very, very potential benefits that they could get
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that you were talking about nearer the beginning of the segment, what do you get?
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Well, it might serve their agenda to cut further ties with Europe, seeing as they seem to want
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to pull out of Europe as soon, well, begin to pull out of Europe as soon as the Ukraine
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To be honest, that's not something I'm completely against.
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I do think that Europe needs to be able to stand on its own.
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Yeah, I agree with what they were saying, in a way.
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And I don't think that American influence has been particularly positive for Europe since
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the end of the Second World War, outside of working together in the Cold War, of course.
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That seems like a bit of a stretch to me, because that relies on a lot of interpretation
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from the people who are actually reading the article and looking at the messages.
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It's a very esoteric way to go about it, if that's what they were doing.
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And in most of the messages that have been, the screenshots that have been shared about,
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doesn't even really seem to convey that as much as is in the article itself.
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So most people are only going to come into contact with stuff that doesn't really push
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So, I mean, I'd be interested if this is some kind of 4 or 5D chess move.
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But again, ultimately, it just makes them look stupid and incompetent.
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But I can understand why people would think otherwise.
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Anyway, so moving on to something a bit lighter.
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The most unexpected thing ever happened, which is that media that hated its audience and had
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actors and producers and directors who actively said that they hate you, hasn't done very well.
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And also, Assassin's Creed Shadows is getting somewhat of a mixed response.
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So I'll go over those two things, which is Snow White has flopped, Assassin's Creed Shadows
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You know, it's not something that anybody's going to be congratulating you for.
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It's not like you'll actually have Islander 3 or anything.
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But you will have a nice t-shirt so that you can kind of cozy up and pretend like you're
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one of the cool, influential people that did buy Islander 3.
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Was anybody looking forward to Snow White and the seven unidentified human beings?
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I think they did eventually make them dwarves again, but I still remember Peter Dinklage
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trying to pull up the stepladder behind him when he was very angry and salty about it.
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So they tried to replace the dwarves with a diverse and representative cast of other people.
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Once you have a meteoric rise to fame and stardom, you've got to remind yourself of the
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So, yeah, unsurprisingly, it had a ridiculously large budget.
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$250 million, which just seems to be the go-to budget for overpriced films these days.
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It's where they go, right, we want to make something where we have to make at least half
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It's like its own marketing ploy is how much money they've spent on it, which is...
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I wonder how many backhand deals are going on there and if anybody's shifting money around.
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The only thing being done with hands in Hollywood offices, I'm sure.
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So, let's say it needs to cross $500 million in pure revenue to even break even, okay?
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It made globally $87 million over its first weekend.
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It's called Snow White because of the complexion of the protagonist and they've gone for...
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Of course, metaphorically, her purity is a character.
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She can get the birds and bees to sing with her at all.
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They've sort of gone for Snow Latina, I believe.
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Yeah, not only that, but this woman, Rachel Zegler, Ziegler, Werner Ziegler, was very, very
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She didn't come across great in all of the interviews where she was saying things like
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Prince Charming basically stalked Snow White in the 1937 original.
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This isn't a film where she's just worried about what kind of man's going to come and marry her.
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Basically, I'm going to make Snow White a girl boss because that's all Snow White was ever about, right?
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There is the weird thing of she's asleep in the woods and he comes up and kisses her when
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It works on romantic logic, not like your Saturday night's logic, all right?
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They've been doing the big remakes since at least Alice in Wonderland when Tim Burton
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But since then, they've been ramping it up and they're starting to really get to the
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They did Dumbo because everybody was really eager for...
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But now they get to Snow White, which is a classic.
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One of the original big animated films that Disney put out.
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People weren't really looking for a remake of it, were they?
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As in the film audience have been pretty clear that, yeah, remakes are not doing good
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Especially when they all end up having the same tone, the same look.
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In all the screenshots and clips that I see from them, they all look really good.
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Do you remember Will Smith as the genie in Aladdin?
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And then they act shocked when, after a terrible marketing campaign that everybody said,
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So in the US, it had $43 million over the first weekend.
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One of the most scathing reviews came from The Guardian, of all places.
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A film made by people with cartoon dollar signs for eyes, and not even the tiniest glimmer
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And another critic said it was a misguided and hollow attempt at modernizing the classic
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tale, while a third said the reimagined take was missing charm and depth.
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Copy and paste those reviews for every Disney remake.
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The Lion King, which was a really charming 90s animated film.
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You're just looking at cats pulling blank faces.
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I tell you what I really dislike as well, that anything that tries to give human speech
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I don't know what it is about it, but there's something about it.
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Even in like the original animated, 2D animated versions as well.
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But if it's like a real life lion and they've got its mouth moving and it's talking like
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The guy who forced Twin Peaks to reveal the murderer early.
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Right, he's got a kill squad outside the studio right now.
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Samson's got him waiting in the hallway just for you once we're done with this.
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Well, surprisingly, here, I'm going to assume that the critics are actually more on the money
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than the audience because the critics have given it 42% Rotten Tomatoes.
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I don't know if this is because there are a load of Disney shills on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Just giving it positive reviews to try and bump up the score.
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The number of people who will suckle at the teat of Disney slop is worrying.
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I remember someone said to me once that an adult woman being into Disney films is up
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there with being a feminist for making a woman be undateable.
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That is one of the lowest scores I've ever seen on that website.
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The Room has actual rewatch value and actual funny parts to it.
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I just want to take a look at some of the user reviews.
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So the Room, by the classic genius auteur, Tommy Wiseau...
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I would actually argue it's probably about a thousand times better than Snow White.
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But also, so let's take a look at some of the reviews.
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Oh, that one was trying to be a bit too clever.
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As well as the terrible reviews, terrible performance,
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you can get an idea for just how terribly it's doing in the cinema
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by the fact that people have been sharing all over on social media.
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Almost all of the seats for Snow White were empty.
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This guy, opening Friday night for Disney's Snow White in IMAX.
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But apparently, you can if you go to see Snow White.
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Yeah, is that Snow White will be playing in the background.
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The Lord of the Rings in a cinema like that, that would be another thing.
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When we're rich, then you can hire out an entire IMAX for yourself and just sit there.
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Meanwhile, in mainland China, which we know Disney likes to try and rely on for profits,
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the film made less than $1 million in its first three days.
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The senior vice president at the box office company has said,
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while it's been a disappointing opening weekend,
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we can't write off the film's performance until we see how it holds up in the coming weeks.
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Well, given that the film box office drop-off from opening to second weekend
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tends to be about 50% and then exponentially after that.
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one thing that this article brings up is just that the budgets for these things are ballooning
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So obviously, they made a lot of money from some of the early ones.
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So that, especially given the fact that it probably would have been a smaller budget than
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this had, would have been a big success for them.
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They could have possibly, you know, doubled or more than doubled their money.
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But then you get films like Pinocchio and Dumbo,
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and they don't really make the money back unless they have a really small budget.
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Even the Little Mermaid remake opened to a $118 million weekend domestically,
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so that's just in the US, over the four-day Memorial Day weekend in 2023.
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but was not considered a major success because of its $250 million budget.
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Again, double it, and you've made, what, $69 million back.
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Which is, sounds big for us, but for a major motion picture studio like Disney,
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My thoughts about this is that even if they are sort of a roundabout making their money back,
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they can stick it on their streaming service and sort of pad out the shows available on there
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and justify the rolling subscriptions to a whole ton of people.
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So it can just be another bit of slop that people scroll past
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while they're taking two hours to decide what they're going to watch on streaming that evening.
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That will probably help make up a decent amount of money for them, at the very least.
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It makes you wonder why they even bother releasing them in the cinema in the first place.
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But then again, if you're not going to do that,
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Well, I think the whole company should dissolve, personally.
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Absolutely, but I tell you what is a big success,
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surpassed the launches of Assassin's Creed Origins and Odyssey.
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Thank you for joining the journey in feudal Japan.
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you went through the entire background of all of the controversies leading up to the release of it,
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So if you're looking for all the context of Assassin's Creed Shadows,
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Go to the video from last Thursday for the proper context of it.
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I'm going to cover how it's been doing since then.
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Grums has been doing a lot of posting about it.
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So, Assassin's Creed Shadows did about 27.5% worse than Dragon Age Veil Guard,
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Yeah, and the all-time peak for Assassin's Creed Shadows over its opening weekend
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Which is you start to get into fights with Elon Musk
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Hassan doing a paid ad for Assassin's Creed Shadows
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to come watch him play it on Twitch, I would assume.
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Those nuggies aren't going to eat themselves.
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And then Assassin's Creed official Twitter account
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that they're going to be nice and sassy on Twitter?
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Zero, nine, nine, three, zero, ten, zero, nine, ten.
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well, it's not just that you love it or hate it.