The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1131
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Summary
The Lotus Eaters are joined by returning guest Tom Roussel to discuss the new ban on ninja swords in the UK, JD Vance's visit to Greenland and the geopolitical implications of that, and the 23andMe scandal.
Transcript
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Good afternoon and welcome to the podcast Lotus Eaters episode 1131. I'm your host Harry joined
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today by Beau and returning guest Tom Roussel otherwise known as Survive the Jive. How are
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you doing my friend? Not too bad at all thanks Harry. Wonderful thank you for coming down to
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the studio and today we're going to be talking about the hidden ninja menace and how the UK
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government are finally solving it. I know this is something that's been on the tip of all of our
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tongues for a long while. We're going to be talking about JD Vance's visit to Greenland
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and the geopolitical implications of that and we're going to be having a discussion on 23andMe
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as well as far as I'm aware so if you're in a gold tier membership on the website we do have the
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gold tier zoom call later on and Dan will be making his long-awaited debut for that so if you've ever
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felt like talking to Dan and you've got a gold membership then make sure to come by at three
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and you can have a lovely little chat with him which I'm sure will go very well and he won't
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spew any nonsense. That's part of the fun of it actually really isn't it? With that anything
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that you would like to say gentlemen before we get started? No let's get started again. All right
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okay so finally the UK government the most serious institution in the entire world is tackling the
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hidden menace that's been behind every street corner terrorizing youths for untold generations
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in our country especially on the streets of London the ninjas. Finally Keir Starmer and the Labour
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government is tackling our ninja problem it's been a big one I know they came here about 1948
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they were shipped over from Japan by way of the Caribbean and ever since then London has had a
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terrible terrible ninja problem violent crime rates ninja stars but thankfully Keir Starmer has made
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the announcement that he will be banning ninja swords by this summer and he reminds everybody
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that when we promise action we take it. I think that was one of the big front pages of the Labour
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manifesto for last year wasn't it? Banning ninja swords and this is all related to the Ronin law
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not a Ronin like this that Ronin let me get his name Ronin Kander who was murdered a few years ago
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uh in Wolverhampton by ninjas I can only assume it was with a ninja sword he was murdered by ninjas who
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went by the names uh Prabjeet and Sukman very traditional Japanese names and as a result of that
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we've had Ronin's law which has banned zombie knives banned machetes which were already illegal to have
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out in the street in the first place alongside most knives including butter knives in this country
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but now it's private ownership of those as well and ninja swords have been added to the mix
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and I've just got to say it's about damn time it is about damn time this is the kind of scene that
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we see on the street every day in Britain these gentlemen going around absolutely terrorizing
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people and already we can see the positive reception from the British public like this gentleman
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saying thank you for banning them they've been constantly harassing me whenever I go to work
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please ban their throwing stars next so this is this is something to consider
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you can still get is it shuriken is that what they're called I believe that's what they're called
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they can still yeah nunchucks allowed obviously this will not solve the ninja problem overnight but
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it's a step in the right direction our Japanese diaspora has been an absolute disaster for this
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country those creeping tiptoe sandals that's what they're getting yeah the ninja sandals force them
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to wear bells on their feet so morris dance integration then they then they'll be part of
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english society and we'll hear them coming if we can get them a dance around the maypole
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then everything will be sorted that particular murder passed me by I've never heard of that
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before but the kid's name was ronin well the the uk government likes to use a lot of things that
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you've never heard of before or maybe aren't even real see adolescence the new Netflix television
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program to be able to justify passing all sorts of draconian laws was it ronin a type of rogue ninja
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that samurai I think samurai sorry samurai well that was one of the questions I was gonna say I should
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know more about it's gonna have to be samurai blades next what I didn't think there was such a
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thing as a ninja sword they mean a samurai sword I mean I think like ninjas did have swords but they had
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to use other weapons a lot because they didn't have access to them as much as samurai that you
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had to have swords to be a samurai that's like part of their accouture but uh ninjas didn't always
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have them I mean we do have a photographic evidence right here this isn't this is a ninja wielding a
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sword I believe this might be Brixton okay ninjas are known for congregating around Brixton as we'll find
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out as well as we go along so next it will need to be samurai paraphernalia that we uh
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as well just to make sure you don't want the samurai causing any trouble do you uh we've got a
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variety of ninjas in the country uh here's footage of the average londoner that josh put out this is a
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photograph that he took yesterday thinking ninjas could be here he hates ninjas thankfully won't
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have to worry about them too much longer these are the kinds of people as well obviously one of the
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problems of integration is that instead of integrating into our culture white working class
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men integrate into their culture and so we have had weeaboos joining in this ninja clan violence as
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well it's been terrible to see the deterioration on our streets here's another ninja as you can see
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he's wearing his full outfit you can only see the whites of his eyes the rest of it's covered
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um but this was a particularly bad case of ninja violence that took place at southport last year but
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not to get into that josh has also been doing some research and found that actually despite only
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making up 13 percent of the population of london ninjas are responsible for 61 percent of knife
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murders and also 63 percent of gun crimes they're terrible with the way that they come along with
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the times aren't they bloody ninjas ninjas not even once and i looked into it and the statistics are
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actually even worse according to colonel otaku gatekeeper saying that japanese people only make up
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0.09 percent of the population of the uk but they commit 75 percent of all knife crime with the
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other 25 percent being white incels makes it adds up yeah sure why not yes and now that we're banning
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these swords all of knife crime will be a thing of the past this is of course bringing up questions
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of liberty though as academic agent has asked they came for the ninjas i did not speak out because i was
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not a ninja how is this andrew tate's fault though a big appreciator of japanese culture obviously
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otaku i hear and thankfully you can actually find areas of great ninja concentration through this ninja
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clan map that i was able to find online it says drill map as in like these drill rap groups but
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actually it's ninja clan concentration around london it's very very useful you can see particularly where
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these clans are based cr7 based around green lane in thornton heath they're very well known for
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claning around their postcodes these clans and i was able to find this daily mail article going into
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detail on them i thought i'd read some of this so this is talking about the machete murder of a school
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boy called kellyan bokassa in the uh on the number 472 but wait is that japanese that must be a japanese
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name um in broad daylight in front of horrified passengers it was the latest in a
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bloody gang turf war that's torn apart the community of woolwich woolwich sorry i'm sorry
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he's american now yeah described by his mother as a polite boy who was groomed by from a young age by
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a drugs gang 14 year old kellyan was knifed 12 times on the double decker bus on tuesday afternoon now
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this is going back in january terrified witness told of seeing two baby-faced young men two baby-faced
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young ninjas i assume sprinting from the atrocity one armed with a machete as long as your forearm
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his senseless murder came as he was still mourning the death of his close friend
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the juan campbell no never which which region of japan is that from
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some from from from the somewhere nagasaki area i guess yeah yeah he was he was uh 15 years old
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who was stabbed to death by a zombie knife wielding assassin see ninjas famed assassins that's the name
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assassin in here kellyan's murder has shone a light on the postcode turf war that turned this pocket of
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southeast london into a battleground notorious barnfield estate where kellyan lived with his
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mother the wild batch gang operates an area to the south woolwich uh dockyard is controlled by their
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bitter uh bitter rivals the woolio gang yeah yeah you're right you're right i'm sorry i'm sorry
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i'm not showing enough respect to these beautiful cultures both gangs are vying for control over the
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local drugs trade particularly crack and cannabis both have formed alliances with gangsters from nearby
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areas woolwich boys were a huge gang said to be comprised of more than 300 members mainly those with a
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somali bra- somali? somali? somali ninjas? i assume who formed at the end of the 90s
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gangsters with the woolwich boys are said to have terrorized robbed and even killed drug rivals
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using meat cleavers and ak-47s according to gangland folklore the gang was decimated further
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when 20 of its members died fighting for isis in syria
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wait wait wait guys guys well they're right okay okay right let me just kellyan
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don't i don't think they're blocks we're doing sound effects now that was that was a shock to you
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i didn't know we were going to be doing this okay i don't think they're ninjas guys i'm really shocked
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by this i don't think they're ninjas it's not actually japanese ninjas causing all of this violence
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it's not even english people causing all of this violence for the most part it's not incels
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it's not ninjas it's not japanese it seems to be third world foreigners i hate to say this because
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like this this gang has members that died fighting for isis in syria to syria including a man called
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abdullah hassan who was filmed boasting of wanting to kill british and western soldiers
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of course i'm sure if this if this uh gentleman this this scholar abdullah had tried to do
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anything illegal or untoward in england to the point where we arrested him put him in prison
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tried to deport him good god maybe if we tried to deport him the echr would have had something to
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say about uh one of the articles article three or article eight well he's got a right to family life
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he's got a right not to be humiliated and sent back to the country you came from because uh and
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then you've got to keep him he might face some real justice in somalia so we can't kind of that
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yeah and furthermore this this this innocent 16 sorry 14 year old boy kellyan that's named in this
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article um was an aspiring drill rapper who performed under the nomdiger gripper had links to the wild
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batch gang and had just released a track called bangers and mash where in the music video he
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pretended to wave a knife in the air as he rapped about pigs gangs guns swords and getting popped
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well i i guess he got popped then some kind of japanese expression i'm not familiar with i don't
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think it's japanese i don't think i don't think it's anything to do with the japanese anymore and
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around an hour before he was killed he posted a haunting message on instagram asking any of his
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followers if they had a mindi which is the somali word for a knife mindi it sounds like a nice way of
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referring to a knife yeah so here we can see these people and look how young they are again like 14
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15 16 years old all just murdering each other probably radicalized by online influencers
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uh like andrew tate tate told them to do this and they would have otherwise been good boys who
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didn't do nothing absolutely so this is his mother and i just read through a little bit more of this
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article and it's a it's a i was just quickly saying yeah you're gone i was 14 i wouldn't dream of doing
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anything violent like that i just wouldn't well i wouldn't now but when i was 14 i think back when i was
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14 i was like into i was just into football or whatever i don't know it's just i just cared
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about saving up for a new pair of football boots or something yeah i was i was right i just i was
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into playing guitar and listening to heavy metal at 14 years old yeah wondering when a girl would
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finally like me i was arguing over who was better out of blur and oasis not drill rap for god
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obviously it was yeah it's all well that's that's the incorrect answer i'm afraid i don't know you're a
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southerner you should be like you should like blur i mean i'm i'm i'm from close to manchester so i
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should be the oasis guy you should be yeah um no anyways reversed it seems um yeah these are these
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these are maniac people like how are you like so the cultural the cultural climate that gets a 14
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year old boy to be like that it's not it's not an influencer is it it's it's a it's a general
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culture and starkey identified that back in 2011 when the race riots happened in london he was saying
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and he got on television and got in trouble for it but you know this is the culture that's inherent to
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that subculture and pop culture associated with you know that that type of rap music that culture of
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the of the streets where they're encouraged to do this kind of thing and it's been going on since
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before like when we were kids this was already a thing like rap uh american rap music was already
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celebrating like gangster rap music started what early 90s um late 80s really with nwa it would be
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a joke though right do you look at someone like goldie looking chain or something where it'd be like
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it would be a joke yeah we'd hear we'd hear um iced tea and ice cube rap about ak vanilla ice no no the
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real ones okay uh we'll hear them none of them were real yeah i think they're all fake but we'd
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hear them rap about like the mean streets of compton or whatever and and everyone's shooting each other
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but to us living in uh like a pre-mass migration britain it was just a world away it was a joke it
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was like we lived in like leafy kent or surrey or something it's like i was i was cool no one's
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shooting anyway like nwa because oh yeah they're talking about how they kill police and that's sort of a
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little bit naughty and and transgressive but like actually there's mum and dad are really gonna hate
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that i'm listening to this right now yeah but that i mean there is actually a so i mean that
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when i was a teenager i i had good music taste so all of this stuff like you completely bypassed me
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i didn't i i liked slipknot so well you turned out to have great music taste in that case
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uh no but i mean you get all of the media sort of like circus surround an event like this because
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obviously we import violent foreign populations who then victimize each other in this country and
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it turns into something where all of us have to suffer as a result of it apparently you can't just
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have a decorative knife anymore you can't just have a decorative sword on your wall anymore because if
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you own it privately as part of this ronin's law you can get six months up in prison for it if you
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privately have a decorative sword on your wall a ninja sword as it's classified under this law
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then you could go to prison for six months if you go outside with a knife you were telling me the
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story beau before we came on air that you had a nice carving knife that went blunt and you needed to
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go to timpson's to get it sharpened but then you started to ask well i'm gonna need to carry the knife
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two timpson's could i get arrested for that yeah i don't own a whetstone myself so i'm going if i
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need to get rich what a fool yeah i should have invested in my own set of whetstones but um yeah
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so i could i could got arrested for it which is a shame because i would actually i don't own one but
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i would quite like to own a cool katana i'll just have it on my wall yeah and um that but not allowed
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that in now no it's prison if you have one of them no there was some there were some exceptions
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there were some exceptions that i'll go through but just to address this right what you're talking
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about about this this culture so they bring out the mum mary bakasa oh look at look at my little
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angel what a good boy he was he never did nothing and then you go down you raised a little toe rag well
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did she even raise him in the first place right because it gives a little detail here
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kellyan's devastated mother mary bakasa wept on wednesday she blamed gangs for grooming her kind and
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caring son during a spell when he was living rough on the streets after running away from a care home
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in kent so where were either of the parents in that situation how did it end up that he was having
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to live in a care home in kent that he ended up running away from in the first place but you know
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here she is looking really sad with a picture of her son who yeah who she barely had anything to do
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with raising by the sounds of it if that story is anything to go by i mean good god and the fact
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that it's coming back onto us you're not allowed to own a cool decorative sword on your wall anymore
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because of this like listen to this this is the sky news reporter on it and you can tell even he as
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he's reading this is thinking this is a joke because watch his face the government has banned ninja swords
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three years after the death of 16 year old monan candor you can see he's like illegal to possess
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sell make or import the weapon from the summer with anyone caught with a ninja sword potentially facing
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six months in prison he's smirking it's like that bit in hot not hot fuzz in shawn of the dead
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near the end where where they're reading out all of the news and they're like i can't believe i'm
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having to actually say this but he's reading it out and look look at his face he's like got a little
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smirk on him he's like this is ridiculous i live in a joke country it's literally the meme oh mate you've
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got a license for that you've got a license for that replica sword yeah you've got a license to be a
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ninja can't they they'll just use a different sword then it's like that actor was saying oh we should
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ban the pointy ends oh idris elba we already did that with a few we didn't ban them but they're
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using cleavons any any weapon can be made like you can kill someone with some piece of string you
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strangle them you can't ban string but uh it's obviously don't give care any ideas but it's all
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a way for them to use legislation to and like and like public's like outrage as a way to pretend
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they're addressing this problem so they can't be seen to be soft entirely on crime without actually
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addressing it because that would be admission of the failure of multiculturalism if they really
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address the cause it would be very racist of them to address the actual root problems of this
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you're absolutely right about you could use a piece of string to garot someone or whatever
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or strangle or whatever yeah so like okay so you ban ninja knives or zombie knives and ninja swords
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but then well what about an axe or a heavy rock or uh yeah or halbards when are they going to ban
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halbards yeah when are they going to ban bricks are they going to tear down all the brick buildings
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across the country uh i mean but but then the debate is because it could be about guns couldn't it
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so in america they've got a gun problem um and before all the americans in the comments say uh
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that we're pathetic for not having guns having guns you can buy guns in england god the number
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of comments whenever guns come up there's always some yank in the comments saying oh
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your society is so pathetic you do need a license you can buy guns you do need a license but also
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you need to go through background checks you have to jump through all sorts of hoops you have to jump
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through all sorts of hoops but then you could get like a 308 rifle if you want here um so okay
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and in a lot of states in america it's probably even harder actually but anyway so but the point is
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that um it could be guns right it just so happens that we haven't got a big gun culture and you do
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have to jump through quite a lot of hoops and handguns are banned here even though you get rifles
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and shotguns even quite big rifles are used by criminals aren't they yeah you can still yeah if
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you still wanted to get one and you lived in london and you knew the right people of course you can
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still get a pistol i i know people who know people who have handguns in london it's not connected
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of course there is a there is a legitimate degree of separation between me and these people do not
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send the police to my front door please but but so the general point is is um like is there's no real
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point banning banning them because all it means is i think anyway all it means is that the the
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normal people have got less of a chance to defend themselves well yeah criminals shockingly enough
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don't stick to the law right so if something's illegal they're gonna do it anyway yeah they're
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still gonna just yeah i mean i mean listen to this so obviously as i said this whole thing was inspired
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by the 16 year old ronin kander who got stabbed to death with a ninja sword and i assume that's the
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only reason that the ninja swords have been included in this is because his parents have been um have been
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pushing for this ever since it happened the laws named after him but they specifically wanted ninja
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swords to be included under the bans as well stabbed by two teenagers prabjeet vadhasa and sukman shurgul
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who was sentenced to a total of 34 years in prison for his murder again this law completely off the
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basis of an event that included no english people well ronin the victim wasn't an englishman ronin kander
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no whose mother is called puja kander okay and these and these and the parents are the activists
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behind it but are they being themselves used by yeah the state i don't think they care that much
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though because again i mean that sadly they've already lost their son right so yeah they are being
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used as the um as the reason why this is all being pushed but if you do own your weapons if you've got
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a nice decorative sword and you're not afraid and you're afraid of being arrested for owning it and
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don't want to spend six months in prison uh the government is holding knife surrender bins
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oh that's so you can go and surrender those i remember they had a long time ago and they're
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doing a surrender scheme in july or you can take it to a local police station uh for those of you
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wondering i checked on tom's behalf there are exceptions and defenses that you can make against
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this so the uh exceptions are if you have a weapon that's an antique that being it's over 100 years old
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it has functions carried out on behalf of the crown or a visiting force item being of historical
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importance making the weapons available to a museum or gallery in certain circumstances if you have it
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for educational purposes production of certain films or certain tv programs theatrical performances
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and rehearsals of these performances if it was made before 1954 if it was made at any other time
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according to the traditional methods of sword making by hand so if you have smithed your own blade
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you are still legally able to own it privately just good luck taking it home with you after
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you've forged it i suppose if you have a blade for religious reasons religious ceremonies
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use in permitted activities for example historical reenactment or sporting activities or if it is blunt
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so those are the exceptions make sure that you note those down if you have a blade that fits any of
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those you are not victimized by this law but otherwise uh you might have to go to a knife surrender bin
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otherwise you could face up to six months in prison you might you might argue that any weapon could be
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educational because they're all they're all made to teach a lesson that is true i don't know how the
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police would respond to that i've got my razor sharp katana because i'm educating myself on how to use a
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razor sharp katana i mean i it makes sense to me right it makes sense to me but again the uk police
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and the government are particularly uh not great with these things it's an antique i'm really old
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that's all right as well because i assume in my in my mind i'm really rich and i can get an actual
00:24:41.900
antique like 15th century genuine samurai japanese samurai sword and i could just say well it's a
00:24:48.480
so that would be pretty awesome it would be cool yeah that would be great well yeah i don't want a
00:24:52.220
crappy stamped out tin one anyway i want i want the real deal he wants it to have been sacrificed
00:24:59.840
been soaked in blood at some point in its lifespan you want it to have taken a life when you want you
00:25:06.740
need what you look starts playing what you need is a cursed blade my friend the spirits of the souls
00:25:13.580
that is taken will haunt you it is cool in kill bill when there's like a wall with like 50
00:25:18.040
like expertly made so oh yeah when she goes to get her blade made one that is cool but yeah so there
00:25:27.100
you go we're a joke country and we deserve to be laughed at let's go through the rumble rants
00:25:32.440
uh we've got quite a few for that segment actually samson's coming to visit to wave his blade at us
00:25:38.680
the engaged few says serious questions some katanas are highly collectible historically
00:25:43.560
significant and very expensive will owners be compensated for their loss doubt it
00:25:48.300
doubt it so obviously if it's uh falling under one of these exceptions then you won't have to
00:25:55.220
worry about it but if you just have a very expensive one i've not seen anything about any
00:25:59.900
kind of compensation that you'd be given for it's expensive then it probably has been hand forged
00:26:04.680
potentially yes probably which means you'll probably be all right but um i think the main
00:26:11.000
thing is like don't stab anyone with it or walk around with it unless a servant yeah and you'll be
00:26:17.560
fine it used to be mandated under law that a good englishman would have to carry some kind of weapon
00:26:23.480
like a blade on him at all times for purposes to the king and those were probably i would imagine
00:26:31.200
much more peaceful times than modern london yeah you wouldn't have got as much just random
00:26:36.460
stabbings as you get in places like woolwich neo unrealist says it's good to see starmer at least
00:26:42.200
getting the discussion started on the final solution to the ninja question black pajama clad folk roaming
00:26:47.720
the streets carrying ninja are a skirt ninja blades are a scourge this is true alex adamson says well
00:26:55.120
well had i known beau would be on today i would have delayed yesterday's request harry please fill in the
00:26:59.540
fine gentleman on your mission he wants us to watch and review all of sharp oh
00:27:05.240
can do yeah that's my forte in fact on my own channel history bro history bro check out history
00:27:13.720
bro i've already reviewed long form the first three books of which there aren't any tv shows he wanted
00:27:20.220
the books to be covered as well yeah i'm doing them chronologically through sharp's life not
00:27:24.780
chronologically when bernard conwell wrote them oh all right so i do that with dan yeah i remember
00:27:29.600
yeah yeah so i've only done the first three uh but i mean to do them all and i've read all the books
00:27:34.800
and seen all the things so i know richard sharp inside out well there you go well that's something
00:27:40.640
i could happily do that's easy content for me i'd need an excuse to watch them all anyway so
00:27:45.800
there you go we'll get that sorted soon enough doom hand the uk have found their version of assault
00:27:51.020
weapons what's a ninja sword we'll tell you when we see them pretty much jarhead 2167 you can tell
00:27:57.380
where the ninjas live by following the chirping of ceiling birds dxtn64 that's a black dynamite
00:28:04.080
reference ninja please it's always the damn ninjas always wanting ninja power that's a random name 200
00:28:11.320
ninja yeah uh ninjas are known for being silent and professional those must be the other types of
00:28:18.420
ninjas the ninjas with a hard r sad face ninjas yeah uh davy verse i have an idea could we just
00:28:26.780
ban stabbing seems logical maybe we can ban murder next i think we've already beat you to that
00:28:32.980
base tape don't worry i'm sure they'll issue a correction about their ban on ninja knives after
00:28:37.060
someone points out the spelling mistake alex adamson criminal oh no i can't use x to kill someone
00:28:43.400
that's illegal that is the logic and davy verse luke 22 36 to 38 nlt but now he said take your money
00:28:52.720
in a traveler's bag and if you don't have a sword sell your cloak and buy one so i can have a sword
00:28:57.280
publicly question mark i mean we've this isn't a christian country anymore not really no it's a very
00:29:05.540
interesting uh verse though oh yeah because people have used that all throughout time because when
00:29:10.880
people say oh jesus was a pacifist and turn the other cheek and um and love your enemy as much
00:29:16.940
as yourself and even if they strike you let them do it well people point to that and say no he said
00:29:21.680
buy a sword remember when he turned the tables over in the in uh in the table the money changes he
00:29:26.960
didn't don't mess with jesus he will he'll mess with your program jesus will mess you up
00:29:31.920
i mean even in anglo-saxon england there were uh like the creation of a peasant class who weren't
00:29:40.240
allowed to carry weapons anymore so i mean they wouldn't have included knives as weapons in those
00:29:45.120
days because everyone had to have a knife you can't do any you can't prepare things but i mean
00:29:49.440
yeah like the the idea of limiting who can have weapons is pretty old and
00:29:55.720
uh as long established in this country like not everyone's allowed to have the same kind of
00:30:01.800
weaponry i think in a lot of cities there would be a rule that you surrender your weapons at the gate
00:30:07.180
yeah um you certainly have freedom of the city which you can carry if the people who have
00:30:13.740
foreigners don't know that some people it's privileged few have freedom of the city of
00:30:18.040
london which means they are still to this day legally allowed to carry a sword in the city how do you
00:30:23.460
get this freedom you have to uh your father has either has to be bestowed on you by the king i
00:30:28.920
think or your father has to have it my grandfather had it uh my great-grandfather had it and didn't
00:30:33.880
pass it on to my grandfather he didn't apply so i've lost his ability not only would i be allowed
00:30:38.040
to wear a sword in the city of london but if i was found drunk in the city of london the police
00:30:42.800
would be required to convey me home in that by at their expense with my sword just endless
00:30:48.240
disappointments really isn't it that's quite a privilege all joking aside that's quite a privilege
00:30:52.560
great it would be fantastic you get to get absolutely blasted and then boss the police
00:30:57.940
all right let's go on to greenland then oh yes there you go do you want your box or should i
00:31:06.660
hold of the box yeah you can do that all right okay if that's all right yeah
00:31:09.820
so we need to talk a little bit about the greenland question
00:31:15.180
it's come up because it does seem that there's some real political will in washington about
00:31:23.280
doing something with greenland i thought it was just a bit of a joke to be perfectly honest at first
00:31:29.240
um in the sense of you know like the way they want to rename the gulf of mexico to the gulf of
00:31:35.200
america it's like i thought they'd actually done that i think they did yeah yeah it's like it's not
00:31:39.760
really all that important in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really mean anything i thought
00:31:45.160
that i did originally think that this greenland talk was just just talk i thought it's flex like
00:31:50.640
you know making sure the russians are listening that they're powerful government in power and
00:31:54.760
they're not afraid to assert american interests abroad but whether they actually would actually
00:31:58.880
do anything to take greenland is another matter a little bit of saber rattling a little bit of just
00:32:03.280
verbal um brinkmanship just just talk i thought it was but it seems to be i mean if you believe
00:32:09.340
the mainstream media and everything i've been reading um and listening to um it seems like
00:32:14.280
there is some real political will there i mean they're sending jd vance there and apparently
00:32:19.040
they're going to be sending um a bunch of other really really senior people in the in the
00:32:23.240
administration um to sort of open diplomatic talks with the government of greenland government
00:32:29.100
to greenland yeah denmark yeah so okay so first of all let's talk a little bit about a little
00:32:34.820
bit about greenland and denmark so denmark okay there's been sort of scandinavian or northwest
00:32:40.080
european settlements in that part of the world for like a thousand years or whatever not constant
00:32:44.340
no no no it was discovered by eric the red and there was a norse colony there it was very
00:32:50.940
important when they were trading ivory and when was that that was about a thousand years ago okay
00:32:55.760
11th century uh i think well they discovered it before one it would have been the 10th century it
00:33:01.980
would have been before america because his son leif ericsson discovered america uh vinland so
00:33:07.880
yeah it's far a good family to be in for discovering things but uh yeah there was a colony there um and
00:33:14.540
eventually i think it only lasts until the 1400s and they were saying mass there in the 1400s i think
00:33:22.620
that's the last one of the last records like last time they had a mass held at the church there
00:33:26.540
and they just sort of filtered back into uh iceland because it wasn't a very it was not
00:33:33.280
successful colony i'm not sure of the exact reason some people say it was due with an increase in ivory
00:33:37.840
available from africa and india but elephant ivory so the walrus ivory trade was diminished or some
00:33:42.600
people say it's because the cattle were dying i think it's a boring argument not relevant to this
00:33:46.640
discussion but anyway are in the 15 1600s no norse presence there uh and later on denmark asserted its
00:33:54.820
dominance over the inuit when the vikings first arrived and eric the red discovered there were no
00:34:00.480
inuit there the inuit arrived after the norse but there was a period when there were inuit there and
00:34:04.840
no norse there so it's not so clear-cut as to who is the rightful owner so the thing i found surprising
00:34:11.080
when i was doing a little bit of reading and research was that denmark sort of formal legal claim
00:34:15.900
of it dates from the 17th century right and there were inuit there at that point yes and i think
00:34:21.700
you said the inuit first arrived in like the 13th or 14th something like that looking at it said
00:34:26.340
anywhere between the 12th and 14th century arrived in alaska in in the same about the same time the
00:34:32.980
norse arrived in greenland and so like it took a long time for the inuit to get all the way across
00:34:37.420
the north american continent to greenland so denmark's claim uh goes back to the 17th century
00:34:44.040
so it's not so not since time immemorial not a thousand years like their formal legal claim to
00:34:51.200
it not not that that really matters it's still a few hundred it's still a fair few hundred years
00:34:55.740
but okay now uh greenland does have a quote-unquote home rule they have got their own government uh but
00:35:03.540
denmark are still responsible for like their security uh they're still responsible for a few key things
00:35:09.300
yeah i think that i think they're kind of a semi-autonomous kind of state aren't they that's
00:35:13.660
right yeah yeah so so it's not like does denmark pay that like pay for their infrastructure because i
00:35:19.900
i understand that a lot of them are on like in social housing and they're alcoholics and there's
00:35:24.360
no jobs or anything that's what i've understood about believe it's the rest of them are danish i believe
00:35:28.020
it's a net drain for denmark yeah it's got a lot of social problems as a country i think yeah uh so so
00:35:36.080
it's sort of semi-autonomous it's got home rule but it is like a foreign territory a foreign
00:35:41.080
dependency overseas territory of denmark right so okay now the population is tiny it's tiny it's like
00:35:50.520
56 57 000 that's sort of nothing that's tiny i mean to put it in perspective the population of
00:36:00.060
rumford is 590 000 it's 10 times as many people in rumford
00:36:05.260
there's a small english town's worth of people in an enormous landmark tiny like swindon is 230
00:36:10.940
odd thousand it's a large town though it's actually yeah i mean it's not a city it's it's got one main
00:36:19.020
high street swindon or two you two it'd be a rubbish city rumford's got one main sort of
00:36:25.820
thoroughfare high street it's got 10 times as many people not that necessarily matters but it does but
00:36:33.120
let's remember we're talking about 56 57 000 people most of which are inuit not not danish people
00:36:40.500
so i think i think the danish population is about 15 percent when i looked into it earlier it's vast
00:36:46.640
majority inuit right right so okay okay so what's going on for them economically there's not much going
00:36:54.180
on there it's not i imagine a happening place to be for me it seems like it'd be quite peaceful i
00:37:00.460
think all all anybody does there by the looks of it is like ski yeah i mean there's there's like
00:37:06.560
fishing communities like fishing and hunting is still a massive thing they're inuit people i think
00:37:10.240
they were better that there was a what i understand of a limited knowledge of like modern greenland is
00:37:14.860
that as they've been the inuit have like lost their traditional way of life and moved into like
00:37:19.820
permanent settlement like buildings and stuff they have suffered some some of the same fate as like
00:37:25.480
native americans where like there's a lot of problems of alcoholism the australian aboriginals
00:37:30.840
domestic violence quite bad in greenland so like they don't have a lot to do except beat their wives
00:37:36.460
and drink i guess and then well you got to fill the time with something yeah and uh sled sled sled competitions
00:37:43.920
there's lots of husky sled sled racing that's a thing there apparently that'd be quite fun fun yeah
00:37:50.580
so okay now so the the trump administration is making all these noises which seem pretty genuine
00:37:58.340
there's actually a fair amount of political will on this that they want to quote unquote take
00:38:04.640
greenland now it won't just be i doubt they're going to do a grenader send in the marines send in a
00:38:12.120
naval task force and take it i doubt it'd be very difficult they'll if it happens at all they'll buy
00:38:17.000
it they'll buy it off of denmark just like they bought alaska louisiana purchase just like louisiana
00:38:22.780
purchase it happens it still happens to this day in fact i thought it's very interesting when i was
00:38:27.340
reading about this that uh truman in the late 40s offered to buy it off of denmark at the time he
00:38:35.100
offered i think 100 million dollars 100 million dollars that's a lot of money right yeah that's a huge
00:38:42.100
um now it would be it would probably be trillions
00:38:45.100
uh they think that the resources there is worth trillions um so that's the next thing to mention
00:38:52.000
is that that it's a valuable bit of land i mean it's just like a massive glacier at the moment just
00:38:57.540
but it's a vast amount of land there's a lot of stuff down there isn't there and under it
00:39:02.800
is uh it's very very resource rich yeah uh not just crude oil but apparently there's lots and lots
00:39:08.260
of uranium there and it looks like going in the future uranium will be important uh for nuclear
00:39:13.640
power and rare earth metals um america doesn't actually united continental united states isn't
00:39:20.420
all that rich in rare earth metals um so there's just the resources now russia canada australia
00:39:28.140
china the united states are all sniffing around it they all really are sniffing around greenland
00:39:33.600
australia is a big money yeah no if you can believe it profidious aussies at it again i knew it
00:39:39.900
now australia is a big nation for mining if you look up all the big countries that mine on industrial
00:39:45.980
scales australia is one of them they do tons of tons of mining a lot of mining are sort of
00:39:51.740
anglo australian ventures anyway so they've got sort of the infrastructure and the technology and
00:39:57.560
stuff so all the big players that could mine greenland basically um they're all sniffing around
00:40:04.260
it they'll want a piece of it so there's the resources so then there's the argument about just
00:40:08.460
security when you look at the globe if you're going to fly icbms or even fast jets or or heavy
00:40:14.240
bombers over the north of the globe into russia i suppose um then it's sort of strategic strategically
00:40:21.480
important i'll put it another way from america's point of view but denmark would stop them doing that
00:40:25.600
anyway right well that was the next thing i'm going to get on to but just quickly to finish that
00:40:28.880
point just to say um it's not that america necessarily needs it their icbms they don't
00:40:34.420
need an icbm base in greenland in order to reach russia but it just wouldn't be good if china took it
00:40:39.920
let's say it just wouldn't be i was going to ask in america's interest they need to even buy
00:40:44.660
greenland to just negotiate some kind of deal with uh denmark to do all of this anyway so that's the
00:40:51.120
next thing i was going to talk about is just the real politic of it i want to try and a little bit
00:40:55.220
here try and sweep aside the the nonsense a little bit because in the mainstream media nearly always
00:41:01.220
the angle is evil trump evil vance are trying to oppress the good completely innocent people of
00:41:07.440
greenland they are completely innocent uh people of greenland not the wife beaters yeah apart from
00:41:11.140
the wife beaters yeah um and the seal clubbers i don't know if they club seals there actually anyway
00:41:16.780
um yeah it's just an evil expansionist plan for the sake of it by trump to just grab resources and
00:41:26.260
land so that that's one angle the other angle might be on the other end of the spectrum it's just like
00:41:30.380
this blind jingoistic ultra mega we can do what we want and suck it up the rest of the world how about
00:41:38.060
that how about them apples right can we try and sweep aside just for a moment sweep aside both of those
00:41:43.480
and just talk about reality just talk about the the real politic of the situation is uh that there's
00:41:51.820
only 56 57 000 mostly inuits there and denmark is no match for the united states in terms of military
00:41:59.160
and now might is right i'm not saying it's fair might is right isn't fair but it is a reality
00:42:04.800
okay and now the u.s navy will stomp a mud hole in the danish navy without blinking
00:42:12.440
but they can't they can't they couldn't possibly go to open war with denmark that's real politic too
00:42:17.120
like the diplomatic illusions of the west depend on not things like that not happening if you if you
00:42:22.740
do do that any and all european allies that your uh that america has would immediately
00:42:27.980
step back and step away from any agreements i mean how can you how could you how could you trust
00:42:34.180
them when you go well okay we're supposed to be allies and you're just going to openly conduct
00:42:38.540
warfare with us well i'm not saying it's likely to happen i'm just saying if it did if it did yeah
00:42:44.040
it would be a no contest right yeah i'm sure trump would rather just buy it than have to send it but
00:42:50.100
if it did come to blows i mean i looked it up the danish army is like 8 000 guys the marine corps alone
00:42:58.760
is 168 000 guys right the the danish don't have they don't have a nuclear submarine program they
00:43:06.000
don't have any aircraft carriers uh they've got like about 20 odd frigates which are not all that big
00:43:11.580
it's just it's just no absolutely no contest but beyond that it sort of like sort of actual naval
00:43:17.140
engagements or fast jet dogfights over greenland short of that there's nothing they denmark cannot stop
00:43:25.460
someone like russia or china or australia or canada just sending over a fleet of sort of mining
00:43:32.960
mining operations and just just going into greenland and doing whatever they want to do they can't stop
00:43:38.640
it as vance is uh annoyed about according to the leagues is that denmark is a dependence like it's
00:43:45.960
already like a vassal state of the america of america anyway so by de facto it's already under american
00:43:51.040
control and it depends on american military that's one of the reasons that european states don't have
00:43:56.460
large militaries is because america didn't want us to and that is how things have been engineered
00:44:01.420
they put a load of bases in our countries after the second world war absolutely but i mean
00:44:06.680
okay it's an absolutely fair value point and again i don't say the necessity of all of the
00:44:12.720
big bravado big talk coming from the administration when surely it wouldn't be that hard to just
00:44:17.940
negotiate a diplomatic deal with denmark in the first place you say that but the danish government
00:44:23.620
does seem adamant utterly adamant that they're that this it's just they're not going to have any
00:44:29.340
have any truck with it who knows they know they've got something valuable so they're playing
00:44:34.580
they're playing their cards right that's the art of the deal as trump would call it extremely valuable
00:44:38.720
i just think the reality is um that that bit of land is coveted by the biggest players in the world
00:44:46.720
china united states russia canada wants canada wants to use it to get resources canada can want
00:44:54.720
anything it's not got a military capability either it can't they're not relevant in that but well
00:44:59.480
even russia and china are no match for the u.s navy but russia and china can't take it now because
00:45:04.600
denmark is an american vassal basically so to them if russia invades it's the same as invading europe
00:45:10.440
like russia can't just send its like submarines through the baltic without repercussions like
00:45:16.040
everyone gets annoyed and nato starts you know talking about it so i don't think they can uh
00:45:21.100
they can they can do that but like the america the american administration might lament the fact
00:45:27.120
that they have to pay to defend europe but the alternative is europe defends itself and we
00:45:31.640
remilitarize and become what we used to be which is like hyper military states incredibly powerful as
00:45:36.700
well and then they wouldn't be able to boss us around anymore america wouldn't be the the power of
00:45:40.660
the world it is now so they can't have it both ways yeah they gotta have one or the other if they
00:45:45.540
go harder than they are right now then it could just completely destroy the illusion of european
00:45:49.620
and american cooperation instead of it just being what it actually is which has been america pushing
00:45:55.180
us around for 80 years well let's move the conversation on slightly from just sort of actual
00:46:00.320
military engagements like russia sending their one steaming aircraft carrier out to greenland
00:46:06.780
but just let's say i don't know china china just does a deal with the greenland government or with
00:46:14.160
nor with denmark just does a deal saying uh you know there's no military involved let us just send
00:46:19.720
over a massive mission we'll spend we'll spend a few billion on infrastructure and the net result of
00:46:26.040
all that is we get all your uh all your resources basically america doesn't want that to happen either
00:46:31.880
right so so you can see why i can see why uh america does cover greenland um not saying it's
00:46:42.620
i mean it sounds perfectly reasonable from a geopolitical standpoint why they would want access
00:46:47.000
if nothing else to all of the resources on there and also somebody in the reply in the rumble rants
00:46:52.460
has pointed out that uh uh more u.s military presence there could keep the lanes around greenland
00:46:57.480
open and free of unfriendly influence as well right yeah interesting that northwest passage
00:47:02.640
i don't know if denmark's hoping to like maybe they want to sell the rights mining rights rather
00:47:09.360
than giving up the territory wholesale to say you can have mining rights on a lease or something like
00:47:13.900
that so america wants to mine there and it may want a military presence there and denmark could say
00:47:18.920
yeah sure but you just to pay like so they get more money out of america by i mean if it does turn
00:47:23.500
out i mean we've had danes in our comments before saying that then that greenland is just a complete
00:47:28.660
drain of resources on denmark so i don't think many of them will be too sad to see it go and i
00:47:34.560
doubt the denish government would be either but like tom's suggesting they've got something very
00:47:39.380
valuable get what you can out of it that's another thing that i found quite interesting when i was doing
00:47:44.340
a bit of reading or research on this is that um greenland and denmark uh sort of not i don't know if
00:47:50.620
they hate each other but it's there's definitely tension between them there's quite a lot of
00:47:55.640
tension like you say danie i think a fair amount of danish people like this is just like a noose
00:47:59.400
this is just like a net drain for yeah that's traditional in all of the whole colonies that
00:48:04.960
the icelanders the faroese all of them like want to not be part of denmark or associated because
00:48:10.780
they did kind of like we did in ireland they did that kind of thing like banning
00:48:14.000
like local languages icelanders were supposed to speak danish and not icelandic in schools and things
00:48:18.260
like that and they tried to like just make everything danish when then it's left a sour
00:48:23.140
taste in the in the mouths of their former colonies i think because my first thoughts on this when it
00:48:30.440
first sort of started to seriously come up is um well i don't why can't greenland be entirely its own
00:48:37.040
thing why does it have to still be um under the umbrella of denmark and it's not really fair that
00:48:43.140
america should just own it outright why can't it just be it's entirely its own sovereign thing
00:48:48.080
and the arguments against that it's just it's just not realistic dan was telling me about a
00:48:53.780
conversation he had with somebody who knows all about these sorts of things and um he said it's
00:48:57.600
just not it's just not realistic where they've got no military tiny population no industry no economy
00:49:04.380
to speak of um it's all you know someone is going to come along it will be it will be china russia or
00:49:13.820
united states will come along and bully it one way or another it's just it's just a simple fact i'm
00:49:20.620
not saying it's fair i'm not saying it's right i'm saying that's what will happen i think it's it's
00:49:25.020
already america's it's just that there's a kind of facade where they can't just do what they want with
00:49:31.440
it and that is what that's what that's what is irritating the american administration they want
00:49:36.500
to just go ahead and do certain things but denmark is an obstruction you've got to keep up this uh
00:49:40.880
this mirage of uh mutual cooperation that's going on without just destroying it all you think uh if
00:49:49.380
if he has to trump will like threaten and to like nuke denmark now of course not i'm joking that
00:49:56.160
was a not very that would be a hell of a headline to wake up to not in a very good taste
00:50:00.900
threatens nuclear annihilation on denmark like when we shelled copenhagen in the when they sided
00:50:07.480
with napoleon they should learn not to mess with anglos they haven't they haven't learned from before
00:50:12.560
there's an early sharp novel about that is there yeah yeah under later written but chronologically
00:50:18.060
earlier in richard sharp's life one of those okay a little bit of sharp trivia for you there
00:50:22.720
um we'll get around so the last point i wanted to make really about all this is um if we just look
00:50:28.540
at it realistically and try and sweep away uh some of the the narratives on both sides uh just look
00:50:35.480
at the the true realities of of greenland's situation in the world i just it just the only
00:50:43.020
thing left to really ask is how serious is trump and vance and the the american president presidential
00:50:51.040
administration how serious are they about this will they push denmark you know super hard and start
00:50:59.040
making threats and things or do you think that it's just they're just throwing it out there and if it
00:51:05.240
comes to nothing it's a myth i'm just getting the impression they are quite serious probably clever
00:51:10.700
with some kind of like they're throwing they're making sure it's entering into public consciousness
00:51:15.320
america owns that zone to some extent alike and just making sure everyone's like subconsciously aware
00:51:23.920
really this is american like zone and there's going to be american activities there in the foreseeable
00:51:29.720
future even if they don't buy outright from denmark i think denmark might try and try and work on another
00:51:36.640
solution that's even more lucrative for them but yeah there's no way china or russia are going to be
00:51:42.240
able to march into greenland without uh repercussions there's just the west the atlanticists
00:51:48.800
like regime or whatever you want to call it even just even just commercial not military just
00:51:53.620
commercial like the chinese denmark can't lease like mining rights to enemies of the west can it
00:52:01.080
i don't know if it could get away with that even germany can't have a pipeline to get fuel
00:52:04.820
they'd probably be subject to sanctions or some kind of other economic punishment
00:52:09.460
no like we sold our steel industry to china or whatever anyway yeah a lot china i mean russia's
00:52:16.340
a different so china and russia obviously very very different stories but i would imagine
00:52:22.040
there isn't anything stopping denmark from signing some sort of commercial deal with china
00:52:27.360
say yeah you do what you want yeah i don't know though i don't know i might be right with their china
00:52:32.180
we were forced to give up all of our colonies and then china just moved in didn't they
00:52:36.100
belton road yeah um because then you think denmark would try and get china and u.s into a bidding war
00:52:43.200
for mining rights in in greenland yeah i mean that's a realistic future isn't it i feel like it would be
00:52:50.820
it would be the smart move it's ballsy for a little country like denmark to take on like the world powers
00:52:55.160
and then and then maybe if say that happened it may it's then at that point not entirely crazy from
00:53:01.580
trump to say well i'm just going to move the atlantic fleet closer to that because that's what america
00:53:08.180
often do there's tension in taiwan we're just going to move the pacific fleet to within 200 miles of
00:53:13.400
that's all we're going to do so what's happening just standing a bit too uncomfortable to be close to
00:53:17.640
someone yeah yeah i mean who knows and i suppose the very last point to sort of talk about on this
00:53:23.360
is the canada question and then it plays into the the thing where again i thought it was just a
00:53:28.960
complete joke where they were talking about canada in terms of the 51st state that's that's pure sort
00:53:35.380
of trumpian comedy right but it not entirely i still think it is largely almost entirely but there's
00:53:42.140
there's an element of sort of quite serious political will not necessarily to turn canada
00:53:47.000
into the 51st state but to completely rewrite their relationship to completely have an entirely
00:53:54.760
new dynamic between those two countries it seems like that is happening seems like that's sort of
00:53:59.920
starting to play out and when you look at the map canada and greenland and the united states where
00:54:04.640
they all are um yeah there's no way that they won't won't be interlinked as i say canada has
00:54:10.860
designs not necessarily on invasion or anything but canada wants a piece of greenland's resources
00:54:19.240
so there's just there's just that extra element going on there now of uh well i think do you see
00:54:27.540
a merger of canada and the united states as feasible in the immediate future i doubt no i don't see that
00:54:34.140
america actually sort of annexing canada and making it the 51st state and that seems to me still
00:54:39.760
complete craziness i don't think that will happen but just i think what is happening is that as i
00:54:46.900
say their relationship or the dynamic between the two countries is profoundly changing where it was
00:54:52.660
kind of like a sort of just sponge off the united states endlessly it used to traditionally could see
00:54:57.840
itself as like a more moderate like british form of governance as opposed to the american revolutionary
00:55:03.260
one but that just that like that just does not exist in the canadian psychology anymore the canadian
00:55:09.060
left is not really distinguishable from the democrat party and the canadian right is nothing to do with
00:55:14.600
like british conservatism or toryism it's just american republicanism so there isn't any at a cultural
00:55:19.680
level they've already won like canada is american not british and it's never gonna like become british
00:55:26.360
increasingly indian as well yeah and chinese yeah yeah and as for the quebec sort of separatists
00:55:32.780
they're way down the list now probably no i don't see america annexing making making canada the 51st
00:55:39.760
state or again sending in like uh infantry divisions tank divisions fast jet sorties over canada canadian
00:55:48.080
airspace and conquering it no no i mean that's just that's not gonna happen but um it does seem like well
00:55:54.280
it not even seems i think it just is fair to say it is the case that trump's got a completely different
00:55:59.680
uh view of canada there's been ever since the war world war ii i mean like the whole the way the
00:56:07.020
relationship between those two countries being is is being rewritten as we speak and we'll see where
00:56:11.680
it goes i mean who knows who knows where it goes hopefully it's not too um you know hopefully it
00:56:19.640
doesn't end in any sort of violence or even politically too too much turmoil let's hope not
00:56:24.580
but we shall see we shall see all right let's go through uh the rumble rants here so got one
00:56:33.340
uh leftover from my segment rick twgp reset the wall reset reset the wall okay we're in darkness now
00:56:43.540
folks we're in the void join us as we go through the land of the mighty bush
00:56:48.900
okay so rick says if i have a sword and i'm not a ninja does that mean i'm okay
00:56:53.840
i can only assume so because again ninja sword is incredibly not defined there's massive two-handed
00:57:01.460
bastard swords they're allowed jarhead and cleave a horse in in yeah maybe they're allowed he said
00:57:08.620
wait for it to restart before you before we start the next segment okay so we can carry on we're not
00:57:13.300
on youtube yeah we're not on youtube right now okay you can say fuck or bugger at this point if you
00:57:17.680
really want to jarhead asks says an anglo-saxon without his could you pronounce this for me
00:57:24.760
say axe say axe i thought so didn't want to be wrong though is a depressing thought
00:57:29.180
bet uh bebop in too says sorry bit behind here are funds for yasuke simulator and a narwhal horn
00:57:36.600
to survive ninjas thank you very much neil from parkdale says harry i agree with your position on blur
00:57:42.100
versus oasis good but who gets your vote in the sex pistols versus the clash debate sex pistols
00:57:47.280
sex pistols obviously obviously one great album versus a few good albums and a lot of shit
00:57:54.240
and the clash and so like uh left-coded like like more lip-coded and johnny lyden turned out to be
00:58:02.080
based in the end so yeah they and sex pistols were actually dangerous and anti-establishment and edgy
00:58:08.520
um the class were basically the establishment they weren't thatcherites no but they everything else
00:58:15.840
is like well what did the clash agree with that they wouldn't agree with that's mainstream now
00:58:20.280
it's basically the tony blair of punk bands yeah exactly even if they do have a few catchy tunes
00:58:25.740
a few years ago on like uh itv news or bbc news i saw an old member of the clash talking about something
00:58:32.640
rather and yeah it was the most npc boomer talking points ever of course it was whereas i saw john
00:58:38.280
lyden play with public image back in 2023 and uh it was great it was great when he did talk about
00:58:45.900
politics it was all pretty sensible stuff nothing that nothing that seemed too massively npc or anything
00:58:51.360
and it was a great live show as well the engaged few says i would suggest that you guys read the art
00:58:56.740
of the deal if you want a better insight into trump's more outlandish moves of this year you need to give
00:59:01.540
that i read it yeah i have never read it i probably should it's probably worth yeah oh another quick
00:59:06.180
thing on seeing public image was you go to those kinds of gigs and it's funny because the kind of
00:59:10.420
people who show up are all like old punks from the 1970s and 80s and they all probably still see
00:59:15.900
themselves as like npc leftists but against the system against the system i'm all for multiculturalism
00:59:23.280
because that's what boris didn't want wow whoops screw the money but whenever you go to them you look
00:59:28.960
around you go this is the most english venue that i could be in tonight everywhere else is going to
00:59:35.080
is the least diverse environment that you'll ever find yourself in which i always find funny let's go
00:59:40.460
through your segment then so if you uh have ever got a dna test with the popular company 23andme you
00:59:48.260
need to pay attention because they have filed for bankruptcy um and that is annoying for me especially
00:59:56.220
because i was a shareholder i am a shareholder i probably have to say that for legal reasons
00:59:59.740
before i talk about them but the the result is that a lot of people have been advised by
01:00:05.760
independent groups that i cannot vouch for necessarily that they ought to delete their data
01:00:11.820
and some opinion pieces have been shared around on the subject and people are panicking about
01:00:16.280
what can happen what's going to happen because there's a belief that when they sell
01:00:20.160
the company that all that data could be misused by whoever buys it or whatever um uh the the fact
01:00:30.120
remains that first off a few years ago a couple of years ago there was a data leak and millions of
01:00:36.900
people's data from 23andme was already released so you might be too late there you're going to go and
01:00:42.220
delete uh right now it might already be um too late in that respect oh and they blamed their users
01:00:48.200
you stupid users how do you get our information leaked um the i wanted to help people a little bit
01:00:57.320
understand this because people always ask me about 23andme and ancestry and other kinds of
01:01:02.120
dna testing sites because i'm something of an enthusiast um there is an option with 23andme
01:01:10.000
when you sign up or at any subsequent moment to delete your sample the sample is your actual
01:01:16.800
spit that you send them when they within a month or of how you're sending your spit to them they can
01:01:23.920
process some of the snips as a single nucleotide polymorphisms to look at the very small amount of
01:01:30.520
your genetic code and that data is all that's required for them to give you an ancestry report
01:01:35.240
and a few medical reports and that's what's referred to as the data if you selected them to delete the
01:01:41.580
sample destroy the sample they're actually destroying a physical sample of your dna and if
01:01:47.360
you said that they could keep it then then they have that sample still on frozen somewhere and they
01:01:53.480
can extract that data or other data much more because since 23andme started i got my 23andme done
01:02:00.760
10 years ago you can now get your entire genome sequence with some companies for less than a thousand
01:02:06.180
dollars uh that sounds like a lot considering like these commercial tests are like less than a hundred
01:02:10.780
dollars but that's your entire genome which means you would never have to have any other kind of
01:02:15.080
genetic test done again because literally every single part of your genome is sequenced which used
01:02:19.160
the first time that was done the human genome was sequenced was like a revolutionary event in the 90s and
01:02:23.580
it costs i can't remember billions or something like that took years and years it took years super
01:02:27.820
computers and stuff yeah now we can just do it like that and it costs a few hundred dollars
01:02:32.060
so and that's going to get cheaper and that's probably you're all going to end up doing that
01:02:36.140
and that's probably how you're going to get medical reports in future and probably you won't even be
01:02:40.440
prescribed medicines without checking that those will conflict with your unique genetic profile but
01:02:45.980
that's not where we're at right now with in terms of 23andme if you've selected that they delete that
01:02:52.160
sample but you've allowed them to share that data they can there's two other options you can that they can
01:02:58.020
share that the data with third parties which you should have already selected not that you don't
01:03:03.220
allow that and another option that they can use the data internally for i can't remember what studies
01:03:10.020
and things like that which you can also opt out of those are the three options you have within the
01:03:15.280
settings on 23andme but if the company is sold there is an additional worry that those three settings
01:03:22.580
are not that don't address that maybe this other company who will buy it will have less scrupulous
01:03:29.840
ideals or whatever or i don't actually know the legality of what uh what a buyer would actually
01:03:37.960
whether a buyer would be able to treat the data differently but what's been referred to as data here
01:03:44.180
is not anything other than what 23andme has provided you from the sample so it's not your entire genome
01:03:51.020
they can't clone you or anything like that oh yeah not well not from the amount of data that's there
01:03:56.500
because it's a tiny amount of your genome that's looked at which only gives them some insight into
01:04:01.480
your medical uh like some they can give you some say something's like you're good at drinking coffee
01:04:06.440
or not or something and they can tell your ancestry profile which uh is not a huge amount of the genome
01:04:12.100
but yes it if you're concerned you need to go and delete the entire account which will include
01:04:19.020
deleting the data and you can do that in the settings but i'm not entirely sure you need to
01:04:23.680
be concerned it's hard to know really it would depend who buys it yeah and if they how scrupulous
01:04:30.880
or unscrupulous they might be if it is some like some sort of insane chinese billionaire thing
01:04:40.080
then yeah it might be used against you at some point um yes if it's sold abroad it was not an
01:04:46.720
american company and subject to american law i don't know if they're allowed to sell it to a
01:04:50.380
non-american company that data because if it's if if that data was collected under certain you know
01:04:55.880
american laws of that like does it apply in china or is it i have no idea so why was it they went
01:05:02.600
bankrupt in the first place that's a good question they have this this reuters article has a graph of
01:05:08.300
their revenue so it seems like their revenue peaked in the first well over oh wait this is uh
01:05:14.500
one article i read it just said um it just said that demand had plummeted i mean there's a lot
01:05:21.160
more competition over over this kind of testing than there was when they originally started uh but
01:05:27.260
it does look like they've been going down a little bit but revenue of course does not necessarily
01:05:30.260
translate to profits either they might have had a bad model basically they might have had too many
01:05:34.840
employees and too much flat they needed a very easily done i i mean they i mean like you said they had
01:05:40.180
they had big pr disasters like all of the data getting leaked i also heard josh mentioning earlier
01:05:47.380
and i think i've seen people talk about it myself that apparently there was some kind of internal memo
01:05:52.640
where they were saying insert a little bit of extra diversity into certain white people yeah
01:05:58.740
results to make sure that they don't get any ideas about their ancestry or something i don't know how
01:06:03.780
what they actually you know they what they actually did is there's certain parts of the of the relevant
01:06:08.900
area of the human genome that they look at for these ancestry tests that are so generic that you can't
01:06:15.020
really assign them very easily to any one population and they could just say you know unassigned which is
01:06:22.300
what they sometimes do actually they just gray it out and say unassigned i used to have 0.1 unassigned
01:06:26.780
but there was a concerted effort they said aside if you have people of predominantly european ancestry
01:06:32.900
assign that unassigned dna to african because then in a way all dna is african or whatever they can say
01:06:39.580
but basically it is it's not like a lie because i mean you could say it like that but it's like
01:06:47.120
it's obviously misleading because it makes people think they have african it's pushing people to
01:06:51.520
towards an agenda a multicultural multi-ethnic idea of their own background in history
01:06:56.760
yeah and they got caught with that um and i think that was that was true as far as i'm aware but
01:07:01.180
i don't think they do it anymore or they stop doing it um anyway you when any of these dna as i
01:07:06.980
tell people anything less than three percent you should take with a big pinch of salt if it's less
01:07:11.960
than one percent if it's one percent then just probably ignore it because it's probably it's not
01:07:16.780
that level of accuracy told you i'm not slavic yeah there you go 1.5 it was it was one percent
01:07:23.200
slav after ancestry changed the marker updated their markers last year halfway through last year
01:07:29.400
all of a sudden i became a lot more english a lot less scottish and then all of a sudden out of
01:07:33.260
nowhere they went you're not welsh anymore you're slavic one percent slavic slavic it's a very strange
01:07:38.760
one too because it's very specific europe but i mean it's also it was yeah it's a huge region of
01:07:43.040
eastern europe that it highlighted on the map so i can ignore the two percent welsh i got
01:07:47.520
you can yeah okay yeah we'll do unless you thank god unless you know of to get two percent two
01:07:55.260
percent ancestry would be someone like who died in maybe the late seven early early 19th century so
01:08:03.280
early 1800s if you know that you have one welsh ancestor who died at that time then it's then you
01:08:07.960
can say okay then that's right but if you if you know your ancestors from that period and there's
01:08:12.060
none that matches the bill then you can just ignore it because it's just a mistake probably
01:08:15.180
um but yeah i also have said to people you can take your data from 23andme and upload it to other
01:08:21.040
services and i'm not providing you know legal advice or anything you you're worried about security you
01:08:27.180
have to do research on those other companies before you upload them my heritage living dna and my true
01:08:33.060
ancestry are three websites that allow you to upload the dna that you got sequenced from another company
01:08:38.720
such as 23andme so if you're deleting your 23andme account you'll want to download that data first
01:08:43.660
because once you delete it you can never get it back um but then you can upload it to other sites
01:08:48.960
and they'll tell you other things i think if you're predominantly british ancestry then the most accurate
01:08:53.880
commercial test available for especially for sub-regional breakdown of your ancestry is living dna
01:08:59.260
but i'm not sure whether it gets more accurate if you pay living dna for their test rather than upload
01:09:05.460
uh a genome from another website like 23andme because i've not compared the two options
01:09:10.680
i used ancestry.com and i think i'm pretty sure you can do a living dna you can do that yeah you can
01:09:16.460
download so i'm going to go ahead and do that that's what i think i'm going to do as well in terms of
01:09:20.980
these big more popular um more popular ancestry dna testing companies the ones like ancestry 23andme what
01:09:30.340
i know you're a shareholder in 23andme so that might bias you a little bit if anybody was interested
01:09:36.080
in doing it for the first time what would you recommend just for a general audience not necessarily
01:09:39.980
british it's hard to say because it's not it's very it's very much dependent on your ancestry like
01:09:45.800
some of them have i mean a lot of all of the tests are marketed for the english-speaking world which
01:09:54.540
has a huge amount of british dna but in america that is because it's a lot of the average white
01:10:00.700
american is of irish british and german mix so for them it's like very important that they don't
01:10:06.820
like get tell the irish people they're english or the german people they're english because that gets
01:10:11.100
them angry so uh they're all much to me but the um but uh so that's why if you're a white american
01:10:19.080
you probably have some british ancestry and but if you have like a mixture of other regions like you
01:10:24.180
it's not living dna is not very good 23andme and ancestry.com are two of the like generic best
01:10:30.460
websites they're big they're big and popular but they're also generically good like if i don't if
01:10:35.960
i'm just guessing that you're of mixed ancestry from across europe or even have some non-european
01:10:40.160
ancestry i have had like south asian people ask me which is the best uh because like if they want to
01:10:45.540
know like what percentage gujarati versus tamil like most of the commercial tests won't give you
01:10:50.240
anything like that accurately but 23and ancestry have been pushing more for because they're a bit
01:10:55.640
woke you know trying to make a better service for uh non-whites basically because initially these
01:11:02.640
services were were geared up at white um to be fair i don't even think you need to be a woke company to
01:11:09.180
want to be able to do that i mean you're just expanding your customer base yeah it's a lot it's
01:11:12.860
a developing but i think the thing is that the most of the people who actually buy these things are
01:11:16.600
white people so it's like that is the main market a lot of people from other cultures don't want to
01:11:22.520
care they don't care like well it also helps that other cultures tend to have a more uh concrete idea
01:11:27.440
of their direct ancestors as well because they have that folk tradition of just like you know the names
01:11:32.920
of your ancestors whereas we've kind of lost that here yeah i think that it's like industrialized
01:11:40.000
britain and america have something in common that like people are a little bit unsure like because
01:11:45.160
there's been a lot of move domestic movement since the industrial revolution in britain like
01:11:48.360
um like you know you might had an ancestor from wales who moved to london 100 years ago and you
01:11:54.240
weren't sure about it so you even though you know you're british you want to know about things like
01:11:57.920
that uh whereas like in some other parts of the world people really are still living in the same
01:12:02.260
valleys as their great great grandparents and like they don't need a test to tell them that because
01:12:06.000
they you know and also they haven't got the um the disposable income to you know invest in
01:12:11.800
frivolous things like ancestry tests so that that to be fair it wasn't racism that made them focus on
01:12:17.360
white um customers it was just uh practical but yeah they are expanding but yeah i'd say
01:12:23.440
problems with legal and privacy issues aside 23andme and ancestry are both quite good
01:12:30.380
ancestry has a really really cool feature which the others don't have because ancestry was initially a
01:12:35.840
family tree website so it's the best for building family trees heritage uh my heritage also has
01:12:42.300
family tree options it's an israeli company um but it's not as well established for like all the records
01:12:48.760
as ancestry so you're more likely to find other people who are building the same tree as you which
01:12:52.900
you can borrow from but ancestry has this cool thing that matches up your tree with your dna test
01:12:58.700
and other people with similar people in the trees and it can then identify segments of your
01:13:04.460
your dna and which ancestors they come from by finding other people with similar people in the
01:13:10.060
trees which is really really useful for confirming things like you know ancestry research where you
01:13:15.360
have someone you think your ancestors to be you're not certain because there's no records but if you
01:13:18.620
find other people who share descent from them and you compare your trees and you can see for certain
01:13:22.780
whether you both descent from them and identify segments of the code but the problem with ancestry is
01:13:27.480
i think they're unscrupulous in the way they charge customers because things that they initially offer for
01:13:32.460
free they take away or things that you pay for they you've already paid for like your ancestry test
01:13:37.260
then they now say oh some of the features that you paid for we're going to switch them into a
01:13:41.300
um a subscription model so to get back the things you already paid for you need to pay us more which i
01:13:46.260
think is not ethical at all but um yeah these companies have to do whatever they can to scramble money
01:13:52.980
at the moment yeah i noticed that josh said that because josh did ancestry literally like two weeks
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before me or something and he got to have the breakdown by parent for free but it now costs me
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like a quid or something or two quid yeah they changed that for me as well also on the ancestry
01:14:10.860
tree that you can go through so i've actually done a bit of that and and tried to go through it and it's
01:14:16.300
matched up a few things for me but one of the things that does it gives you like the little clues
01:14:20.500
on it where it says oh we found something that might work how accurate are those because i'm not
01:14:25.780
entirely sure if i should trust those so those are based on other people's trees oh other people
01:14:32.120
other people who have a similar person in the tree have or who what the out the algorithm thinks is
01:14:38.000
the same person because the name and the dates are similar and they think they know that other person
01:14:42.740
put them in the tree now when i first started like doing tree building in like 2009 i assumed that
01:14:48.600
other tree builders were really going to be accurate and they were saving me time to copy them
01:14:52.820
but what you learn is that then they're all doing the same thing so they're all just like
01:14:57.360
sniffing each other's behind and getting the same results like you definitely need to double check
01:15:03.300
things unless you have like i think the first thing to do if you're going to build a tree is start with
01:15:07.440
what your actual family tell you get the data from your grandparents directly and then build on that
01:15:13.160
uh solid ground uh and and like if you you go on other people's trees from ancestry and you can copy the
01:15:20.940
entire tree across but you might be copying loads of mistakes and false ancestors that you need to
01:15:26.640
spend years correcting later on if you do that one thing i think that they can my sister was thinking
01:15:31.620
of doing this which is apparently i think you can spend like 600 quid to get somebody to actually go
01:15:36.520
through records for you yeah and track it all down that way yeah but that's a fair bit of money to
01:15:41.320
just it's about what's what how much is your time worth basically because family tree research takes a
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long time as i think most of people who do it are retired and they've got nothing better to do but
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i for some reason spent hours and hours of my life building a tree of 3 000 people or whatever
01:15:56.500
which is uh thank thank you that that's some classic anglo autism right there you should be proud of that
01:16:03.080
yeah i am but uh yeah it's not but no one else in my family seems to care about it then yeah
01:16:07.940
it was either this or stamp collecting mum very interesting you say that everyone's sort of copying each
01:16:14.380
other and so you end up copying the same mistake it's funny that that's very often the way with
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all history right everyone's copying herodotus yeah except herodotus keeps on being right
01:16:26.760
yeah or like um like um tacitus will say something and everyone's just copying that all the way through
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to today yeah and if he was wrong or lying um then well that's it um it's that's interesting
01:16:40.240
it's generally also the news like all like urban myths start that way like someone you say it
01:16:44.880
enough times and it becomes like more true than the truth because it's just so everyone's so familiar
01:16:50.220
with that idea but i know and like uh marilyn manson and his famous rib yeah i thought that's true
01:16:56.080
that's definitely true or richard gear with that story is that prince had the same story it's like
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prince and marilyn manson both had a rib removed yeah you copy from the best ah yeah great artists
01:17:06.240
good artists borrow great artists steal together they got the operation done at the same time
01:17:12.280
uh yeah there was actually a thing i learned some of the um actual before the age of the internet
01:17:21.800
genealogists like we've described that you could pay there were very unscrupulous ones among them
01:17:26.900
who sold fake genealogies especially to americans about their to tell them they were descended from
01:17:31.700
aristocrats and lords so now some of those are still popular in and they've transferred to the
01:17:37.400
online world and you can see people following these fake genealogies that were sold like 100 years ago
01:17:42.720
in america as like by snake oil salesmen whatever but then they're definitely not true and i actually
01:17:48.020
ended up copying one into my tree and then i was like going through it like he wasn't born there and
01:17:52.360
where did this come from and then i did a bit more research and i found out about how it was a big scam
01:17:56.660
like 100 years ago so it's like yeah scammers exist
01:18:00.560
and their consequences there's also like you know like historians like fake historians who like
01:18:07.500
or archaeologists who make thomas lockley oh yeah yeah i'm not familiar with the name he was the black
01:18:13.160
samurai yasuke guy for the assassin's creed game that just oh right yeah yeah yeah yeah well i caught
01:18:18.300
editing wikipedia with his own research that hadn't been released yet clever what's the famous skull that
01:18:23.600
arthur conan doyle was involved with did arthur conan doyle fake a skull no he didn't fake it but
01:18:28.200
someone near to him faked it and he bought into it and uh it was in the it was in the late victorian
01:18:34.160
period and it was they were saying it was the oldest skull because back then there was like prestige
01:18:38.760
around which country had the oldest skull yeah yeah uh i can't remember what it's quite famous
01:18:44.660
actually yeah pete down about it pit down man yeah that was complete fake churchill called it the
01:18:49.800
first britain or something but it's not not it was all fake yeah but there was the got some guy in
01:18:54.680
greece who just made like so many fake greek pots and they were perfect they were beautifully created
01:18:59.520
and like actual works of art like he spent they used his a great amount of skill and knowledge to
01:19:05.380
create these fakes so he had some incentives of money but i think there was more incentive than just
01:19:09.960
the money like he really was maybe getting a kick out of the fact that everyone just believed the lie
01:19:14.900
that he could create big artifacts that's another thing in like the age of the grand tour like the
01:19:19.740
17th 18th century loads of collectors would go to italy and greece and they all wanted to buy
01:19:26.540
sort of fifth century athenian pottery or uh sort of first century age of augustus roman busts
01:19:33.560
and of course they're extremely rare hardly any of them left by the 18th century to to buy
01:19:38.580
oh but but there was a lot of them around to be bought still yeah all fake of course
01:19:44.060
yeah but yeah i mean that's as old as high i mean look at um like uh jeffrey of monmouth or
01:19:49.900
mallory or something just making up basically making up arthurian legend or something but but still
01:19:55.300
in like the 12th century or something so it's there's no one would make up fake history now right
01:20:03.420
no absolutely not sorry i was just trying to figure out living dna
01:20:09.400
i've already uploaded my results from ancestry to that actually so i just need to give them a little
01:20:14.180
extra money so that they'll give it to me it's a british company and i can say that that's another
01:20:18.740
thing if you want to be a patriotic investor i don't know i think ancestry is american 23andme is
01:20:24.460
american and my heritage is israeli i can't remember the other ones but
01:20:29.800
fair play is there anything else that you'd like to comment on or should we go to the video comments
01:20:33.560
let's move on wonderful thank you very much let's go to the video comments samson
01:20:37.440
oh speaking of danes here's one right now it has now been six months since i decided to exchange all
01:20:44.920
of my scrolling time to try to learn how to draw and i think this actually really proves that if you
01:20:51.440
just apply yourself it's true that instead of complaining on the internet you can't learn a skill
01:20:56.980
and just do it it's really cool well i'm not good enough to be a professional but i'm good enough
01:21:01.780
that people are asking about so that's so cool although trying to transfer real life people to
01:21:08.980
a cartoon form at this is that you that bow i can tell from the bat from the uh from the brow
01:21:16.300
that that famous eyebrow there you go there's some more there's some more reference material for you
01:21:21.320
i like kawaii cheerful bow i don't think i've ever actually seen you pull that face
01:21:26.920
the other ones she showed were quite good yeah yeah they're very good on the right path although
01:21:32.520
i would argue arguing with people on the internet is its own skill yeah you get better the more you do
01:21:38.000
it yeah it was frustrating watching mr brackpool read his way through his seed oil section in podcast
01:21:44.760
1130 canola is a canadian variety of rapeseed oil with reduced erucic acid all fats and oils contain a
01:21:51.840
mixture of saturated monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats the difference is the ratio
01:21:56.700
the double bonds in polyunsaturated fats make the molecule flexible preventing solidification at
01:22:01.640
low temperature the trouble with polyunsaturates is their tendency to oxidize radically changing
01:22:06.480
their properties potentially leading to plaque in the arteries seed oils are useful for skin care
01:22:13.380
but if you season your cookware with seed oils and that would go into your food and you would eat
01:22:20.200
it also again i just prefer using butter for if i'm frying something in a pan although again people
01:22:27.040
have been suggesting beef tallow and lard yeah but seasoning the pan is when the iron is like it's
01:22:32.280
not when you're cooking is when you're i'm not a chef oh it's it's my wife has a cast iron pan thing and
01:22:37.940
like you have to like saturate the metal it sounds like a lot of effort yeah it is a lot it sounds
01:22:43.580
like a lot of pointless effort when i'm hungry right now oh it's not for when you're eating
01:22:47.180
you've got to do it another time it's just it's like how you you care for the cast iron cookware
01:22:52.300
it was like it's when you're against non-stick and you don't want the poofers you have to get the
01:22:55.720
old cast iron pans and people get obsessed with seasoning it which just means like saturating the
01:23:00.200
iron with oils beforehand and that's what he's referring to i saw a video just the other day of
01:23:04.960
someone said what i do some asian person what i do when i buy a new wok and it was a whole process
01:23:10.700
it was a massive long process of of like breaking in and doing loads of different things to it
01:23:16.100
so i've got i'm with you i've got no intention i very rarely fry anything to be perfectly honest i
01:23:21.160
do myself a fry up basically every morning when i'm home just some sausages and eggs just uh just
01:23:26.140
for my morning breakfast get a nice glass of milk in there very airy and um butter just use butter
01:23:31.700
yeah exactly butter's all you need that is lovely is that egret
01:23:37.440
it's the person that just shares really nice uh jan havey
01:24:03.560
and that's it so we've got a few minutes to go through
01:24:09.300
um no we've not got any more rumble rants to be fair we had a lot of rumble rants today already so
01:24:14.780
that's fine let's go through some of the written comments from the website so
01:24:17.960
on my segment we've got someone online ninja sword what kind an odachi a daito a ninjato a
01:24:23.800
wakizashi or a tanto i guess uh we'll have to find out from kistama himself i'm sure he's very
01:24:33.460
well versed in such things north fc zuma honestly i have no idea how japan has survived their ninja
01:24:39.400
epidemic they've had them for centuries at least they're fixing it now by importing people from much
01:24:43.900
less stabby cultures yeah pray for the japanese fuzzy toaster at this point if i were to get an
01:24:49.960
arming sword a male coif and a gambeson would the police even be able to do anything could i
01:24:55.280
conquer this land with a sword in hand and dream we would never ever recommend such a thing although
01:25:01.220
it's possible arizona desert rat it looks like the uk government is addressing the symptoms but not
01:25:06.000
the underlying illness kind of like what's happening to us in the u.s yeah that was the thing
01:25:11.080
that was a whole uh seam of conversation which i wanted to mention but we didn't it's just that it's
01:25:17.920
a uh yeah it's a symptom of a much deeper disease isn't it uh you know for example that we need to
01:25:27.920
re-migrate a lot of people well mass re-migration that yes yes and but also if you take for example
01:25:34.440
um the increase in just mass spree killings not necessarily by ninjas um in some cultures
01:25:43.620
very very gun heavy cultures they don't really have it swiss the swiss have guns high gun ownership
01:25:50.180
swedes have high i was gonna say that loads of hunting in sweden loads and loads of guns
01:25:55.240
but not many schools get shot up the immigrant gangs prefer grenades oh right yeah yeah they love a
01:26:01.480
grenade attack don't they uh but there's a number of countries i mean just look at the difference
01:26:06.120
between canada and the united states when it comes to school shootings uh canada's got just as much of
01:26:13.200
a gun culture as america you might be able to argue even a bigger hunting culture but so there's no lack
01:26:19.440
of guns in canada but so so we're talking about something much more difficult than simply how many
01:26:28.820
swords there are in in or how many guns there are in the in the public hands it's basically the same
01:26:34.360
kind of gin-brained attitude the american democrats have towards guns which is that the gun itself
01:26:40.260
has some kind of magical ability the second you get hold of it starts whispering to you and forces
01:26:46.080
you to commit violence it's the same attitude that they've got towards the knives you pick up that
01:26:50.940
butter knife this happens to me every morning and all of a sudden it begins whispering to you kill your
01:26:56.260
family in love do it kill them kill them and i have to resist that's not actually how it works it's
01:27:01.780
the person wielding the weapon that makes it dangerous and if we ban bump stocks or silencers
01:27:07.220
or high capacity mags then uh then we're solving something wasn't it trump that banned the bump stocks
01:27:14.200
i don't know i can't remember it was it was hillary talks about it but anyway whatever it's like it
01:27:18.940
doesn't matter because you take for example the uh the las vegas the las vegas shooter i think he might
01:27:25.500
have had some sort of belt fed thing i'm not sure but the point is if you're gonna if you're a criminal
01:27:30.900
you're hell-bent on doing a massacre or a mass killing spree you don't care if the thing is
01:27:36.240
illegal or not right in europe you can just still get your hands on a high capacity magazine anyway
01:27:40.580
when in europe and germany you don't need a weapon per se you can just use a car which keeps being
01:27:48.760
done over and over again so if you ban all of the knives if like with the idris elba thing oh if we
01:27:54.220
just take the points off the end of them congratulations instead of stabbings you'll get
01:27:58.300
hackings people will just be hacked to death instead cleaver or yeah if we call the the roadblocks
01:28:04.720
diversity barriers so when we ought to call these weapon bands diversity bands because or diversity
01:28:10.280
inspired bands because it's not it's always a way of skirting around the issue not actually
01:28:14.800
addressing it the bands have nothing to do with well that i mean you can tell just by the fact that
01:28:20.020
the ones the incidents that inspire them so often have no englishmen involved in them whatsoever
01:28:25.000
do you want to read through some of your comments bo let me uh shift down to them oh
01:28:32.580
oh sophie live has written a long one guys you have no idea the insufferable elitist attitude
01:28:40.900
here from denmark when it comes to greenland oh they want to buy greenland then what if they buy
01:28:45.400
california oh then what if we buy california and they talk like it is a smart talking point i try to
01:28:51.620
explain to people we do not have the power to defend greenland by ourselves and if america wanted to
01:28:56.640
just take it um how can we stop them it's already their military base protecting the darn thing
01:29:03.500
yeah uh she goes on but yeah i mean yeah i mean that's just a that's just california is not
01:29:10.600
within their price range they can't buy california yeah yeah which makes it i mean it's it's a point i
01:29:18.540
was making it's just the the reality of it just the real real reality again it's not fair
01:29:23.500
i mean life isn't fair geopolitics isn't fair that has to underpin it all but at the same time when we
01:29:29.820
live in uh liberal democratic globo homo world they also have to have the nice illusion of the
01:29:36.760
cooperation on top of it as well although we we know ultimately it comes down to the ability to
01:29:41.460
exercise force yeah it does unfortunately i mean i'm quite often surprised by the uh the way the
01:29:49.140
dynamics that play out in a primary school playground are very very similar to geopolitics
01:29:54.900
very very similar the dynamics between kids in a playground running around making little factions
01:30:02.700
and the biggest kid the hardest kid like what he does and says matters the most and stuff it's like
01:30:07.460
it's exactly the same it's almost it's maybe it's not surprising but um okay uh kevin fox says
01:30:15.060
let me just scroll down kevin fox says so greenland is the danish equivalent of wales semi-autonomous
01:30:21.740
by but dependent on denmark for money and security uh well i suppose so
01:30:26.980
i think uh because we've got the gold zoom call after this uh samson will probably want to get all of
01:30:34.580
that sorted and we have hit the half past mark so that's all that we've got time for before we go
01:30:39.520
do you want to just remind everybody where they can find you tom i have a youtube channel called
01:30:43.140
survive the jive which you should watch if you enjoy history documentaries particularly about
01:30:47.840
pre-christian europe and anglo-saxons and the indo-europeans and such things and i also talk a
01:30:53.400
bit about dna there too there you go so please check tom out the channel is fantastic and thank you very
01:30:59.740
much for joining us if you're a gold member join us for the zoom call in about half an hour until then
01:31:04.620
though we'll be back next week on the podcast thank you for watching and take care