The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 31st of March 2025. I am joined

00:00:05.280 by Stelios and joined once again by our guest Stephen Wolfe. Hey, hi everyone. You've made your

00:00:12.200 return. I have, fantastic. You're also presenting your own segment today. I am, that's very kind of

00:00:17.340 you, thank you. You're more than welcome. And today we are talking about, well Stelios is going

00:00:23.660 to be talking about Britain's 2 to Justice smokescreen. Yep. And then Stephen's going to

00:00:28.420 be talking about how, I'm putting words in your mouth here a little bit, but how democracy has

00:00:34.060 basically ended in France to a certain extent. Yeah, I think to an extent that people are going

00:00:38.640 to look at today's sentencing of Marie Le Pen and say exactly that. I'm very worried about it actually.

00:00:46.300 And I'm going to be talking about how South Africa is pushing back not only the ANC government but also

00:00:51.960 the Afrikaner minority as well. And there's a very interesting dynamic going on there. But I believe

00:00:57.520 Stelios has an announcement here. Yes, it's about Tim, a friend and also friend of the show. He, I want to

00:01:05.160 do this shout out, his wife Amy is battling cancer. And I want to wish you good luck and speedy recovery.

00:01:13.420 And I want to wish you all the best. So yeah, very, very much so. And all the best.

00:01:18.400 Right. So yeah, so let's wait for a second.

00:01:26.460 Thompson's doing his magic. This is the joy of editing things into segments. This will never be

00:01:33.260 seen on YouTube.

00:01:34.660 Right. So basically, I think we are looking upon an admission that two-tier justice exists

00:01:39.320 from the government. And it's very safe to say because they've been all bit explicit

00:01:44.960 about it, haven't they? They have been explicit about it. But also, they always said that people

00:01:50.260 who use these words are far-right extremists. So this... The government's now a far-right extremist.

00:01:55.580 It has... Say, Mam Shabima Mahoum is that far-right. But now she's an extremist far-right rather 1.00

00:02:01.380 than just being an extremist in some people's minds.

00:02:03.240 Right. So basically, the Sentencing Council for England and Wales has issued some guidelines

00:02:09.120 with respect to sentencing that take ethnicity into account to an extent that was presumably

00:02:15.080 that's much greater than the extent it was taken before.

00:02:18.300 It's also worth mentioning that it was already quite bad.

00:02:21.780 Yes.

00:02:21.960 Like, you could just eyeball sentences reading the news, being, you know, a casual reader of

00:02:28.460 a newspaper, and you could see the differences in sentencing pretty explicitly.

00:02:33.240 You know, the reason everyone noticed this two-tier thing was largely through what they'd

00:02:39.660 seen through headlines. And now the fact that the sentencing council is just explicitly admitting

00:02:43.480 it is very significant.

00:02:45.220 Yes. And I may infuriate you because I don't think that they have particular credibility,

00:02:49.720 but the Labour government says that these guidelines are unacceptable because they support

00:02:55.160 a two-tier system.

00:02:57.240 Yeah.

00:02:57.880 Wait, what?

00:02:58.360 This is a Labour government saying it doesn't support a two-tier system when almost across

00:03:04.700 every aspect of policy and government, it is creating a two-tier system.

00:03:08.040 Not on their watch. Not on their watch.

00:03:10.640 Well, this is definitely... Oh, sorry, Steph.

00:03:12.240 No, no, please.

00:03:12.920 This is certainly some red meat to poach from the right, isn't it? 0.99

00:03:17.440 Yes. And also, Keir Starmer has started talking about illegal migration and him being particularly

00:03:23.280 unhappy with it. He's not talking about irregular migration, he's talking about illegal.

00:03:28.220 I think he's had a meeting with Tony Blair because he's been saying, I hear your concerns

00:03:32.460 and I'm taking them seriously, which is like a signature Tony line.

00:03:35.940 Right. So for me, this shows that there is a significant trend within the world of jurisprudence

00:03:42.080 of judging according to these principles. And right now, they felt that this is the opportune

00:03:48.780 moment to come and provide additional institutional backing and support for these principles when

00:03:54.680 they're saying that with these guidelines, we want you, judges, to adjudicate according

00:03:59.540 to these principles. And essentially, this is going to say, it's going to mention the oppression

00:04:06.720 calculus and they're going to give some reports to the judges, especially when it comes to

00:04:12.960 people of ethnic background. And they're going to try to say that there are, because there

00:04:19.320 are several oppressed minorities and ethnicities, all this implicit bias should be taken into

00:04:26.360 account when you're yielding a verdict about the sentence. And perhaps you should be a bit more

00:04:31.100 lenient with so-called oppressed backgrounds. It's also worth mentioning as well that the research

00:04:37.780 on implicit bias in psychology seems to suggest that you can't get rid of it. But if you do take

00:04:44.860 measures to try to, it makes your racial bias worse. Yes. In that, for example, they expose people

00:04:52.580 to stereotypes and terminology to avoid. And what it did was it made people more easily recall

00:04:58.700 these terms that they're not supposed to use, which probably means they're more likely to use them.

00:05:03.260 And the more biased people are, the more necessary the anti-bias section seems to be,

00:05:13.000 at least to people who think that bias is wrong. Right. So we have an article from

00:05:17.040 The Guardian here that says ministers criticize two-tier sentencing changes in England and Wales.

00:05:23.360 And they're saying is the guidance aimed at tackling bias and reducing re-offending.

00:05:29.040 How exactly? Puts more emphasis on the need for pre-sentence reports, which give details of

00:05:35.880 the offenders' backgrounds, motives and personal life before sentencing. So my question is,

00:05:41.280 what does this do that the ordinary defence doesn't do?

00:05:47.600 Well, the ordinary defence comes out and gives you, as a barrister myself, someone who's had to go

00:05:53.260 through the criminal process, both as a prosecutor and as a defender, is the ability for the defence

00:06:00.480 to raise the issues that support why you shouldn't be sentenced so determinately. If you talk about

00:06:07.560 what happened in your family background, you talk about breakups, you talk about the lack

00:06:11.860 of education you have, you might talk about why you were threatened. All of those are elements that

00:06:18.000 you would normally and naturally use. The whole process of the pre-sentence report when it was created

00:06:24.080 was to try and ensure that those defendants who were incapable of doing it properly or to give an

00:06:30.820 opportunity for the court to understand more about an individual, that was created. And to an extent,

00:06:37.840 someone often argued, why? Why was this brought in? Now, I can understand it. In many cases,

00:06:44.300 a pre-sentence report was actually helpful to be able to understand what was going on. And I think

00:06:48.940 for many, many lawyers, they would say a PSO is a useful vehicle. The first question is kind of

00:06:56.460 philosophically, why was it introduced when you could do this anyway? And why did the courts not

00:07:01.960 listen to what the defendants? And I think really, it was because the courts were being encouraged not

00:07:08.380 to imprison people or give certain sentences to certain groups of people. And they couldn't just

00:07:13.660 rely on the defence. They wanted to have a third party. It was like the idea of bringing in quangos. 1.00

00:07:19.400 If we can rely on a third party, it's not your fault you didn't do it properly. And it's not us.

00:07:24.960 We're just listening to the pre-sentence report. And that's why this is taking on such an important

00:07:31.040 part of the debate, is because judges and magistrates are almost washing their hands to

00:07:36.920 a certain extent by saying, I'm relying on what's said in the pre-sentence report.

00:07:41.600 So I think, I think the way a lot of ordinary people think about justice is that it doesn't

00:07:48.180 necessarily matter about these sort of extenuating circumstances. A certain action should have a

00:07:54.240 certain sentence, regardless of your reasoning for it. I think that that's how I certainly

00:08:00.260 think about that sort of thing. And it seems like a way of basically making excuses for

00:08:07.080 yourself. Maybe I'm being a bit unsympathetic here, but it does seem like a way of saying,

00:08:13.580 oh, well, you know, I came here on a small boat. It was terrible. It was awful. I've had such

00:08:17.780 a hard time now. You know, I'm really sorry about stabbing that innocent person.

00:08:23.240 Yes. So my question, I think I'll phrase it again. What does this put forward that a

00:08:29.760 traditional defence doesn't? Because you're mentioning the specifics of the case, which

00:08:34.000 I'm sure the defence would mention. But it seems to me that in this report, if the report

00:08:39.400 is about to say tackling bias, they are going to put forward all the ideological bits, all

00:08:46.240 the woke progressivism within legislation is going to get an extra institutional backing.

00:08:51.860 And let me continue what they say. Under the change, which would come into force on April

00:08:57.900 the 1st, tomorrow, that is, magistrates and judges would be asked to consult a pre-sentence

00:09:05.860 report before determining whether to imprison someone of an ethnic or religious minority,

00:09:11.860 as well as young adults, abuse survivors and pregnant women. At present state, black and

00:09:19.120 minority ethnic communities are overrepresented at almost all stages of the criminal justice

00:09:24.300 process in England and Wales and are more likely to be imprisoned and receive longer sentences

00:09:29.160 than white people. Well, the question why isn't being asked here, but also,

00:09:35.860 what is going to happen is that these guidelines are saying, we are going to have the woke oppression

00:09:42.620 calculus, we're going to separate the population into groups, we're going to rank them according

00:09:47.500 to who is more or less oppressed, and those who are considered to be among the privileged

00:09:54.200 groups are going to get Taffa sentences. This is precisely what this is. 0.99

00:09:57.800 It's an explicit rejection of the rule of law, isn't it?

00:09:59.900 Yeah. Right, so Keir Starmer took issue with it, and he took issue with several other things. He

00:10:06.340 talked today about illegal migration as being a risk for security and him being very angry about it.

00:10:12.340 He's also very angry about the two-tier system. Right, so let's look at what Keir Starmer has to say here.

00:10:18.660 Well, I'm disappointed in this response, and the Lord Chancellor is obviously continuing to engage

00:10:26.860 on this, and we're considering our response. And, you know, all options are on the table,

00:10:32.020 but I am disappointed at this outcome, and now we'll have to consider what we do as a result.

00:10:37.320 So he's gravely disappointed.

00:10:40.980 But he's come out just to, was it just before we came on air, where he actually said, now we're going

00:10:46.780 to push an initial legislation to attach to current amendments. Sorry, he's putting an amendment to

00:10:53.140 current legislation in order to try and tackle this issue, how he does that. So he's saying he cares,

00:10:59.480 but I think this is a lot of pressure. As you saw when we were discussing the letter about it,

00:11:04.980 the letter makes it very clear that it's all about what the pressure has come from Robert

00:11:11.220 Jenrick. No one else, just Jenrick, seems to have caused this. And I think he's running a bit scared.

00:11:17.620 Speaking of Robert Jenrick, we have a post of him here saying, under two-tier Keir, that's exactly

00:11:24.420 what's happening. It's completely outrageous. This would enshrine an anti-white and anti-Christian 0.77

00:11:29.400 bias in our criminal justice system.

00:11:33.140 Sounds about right to me, to be honest.

00:11:35.380 Yes. And he's reacting against Shabana Mahmoud, who said, there will never be a two-tier sentencing

00:11:42.120 approach under this Labour government.

00:11:44.240 Well, it's too late for that now, isn't it?

00:11:46.000 Yeah, I don't know. Do you believe them?

00:11:47.820 No, of course not.

00:11:48.000 Just tell us in the comments. Tell us in the live chat. Do you believe them?

00:11:52.100 Right. So she is proposing here a way to tackle this. The government will introduce legislation

00:12:00.260 to Parliament this week to override independent guidance on how offenders from ethnic minorities

00:12:06.040 should be sentenced. It comes after the sentencing council refused a request from Justice Secretary

00:12:11.320 Shabana Mahmoud to consider its new instruction for judges. I know. I just don't believe it.

00:12:19.280 It's going to be a fascinating element because, as I say, for many lawyers, a PSO or a pre-sentence

00:12:25.080 report is useful. But in so many ways, the idea that it's now, here's a judge or a magistrate.

00:12:32.440 We are considering incarcerating somebody. But because they come from one of these three groups 1.00

00:12:38.240 or four, if you've added a couple more on there as well, we can't sentence them to prison

00:12:43.280 today because we've got to get a PSO. And why, I can't understand why the judiciary or those 0.51

00:12:49.380 who are looking at this see this as odd. Because what do I go back to, trying to make jokes about

00:12:56.080 it. But the reality was my grandparents worked in factories, pretty abused in factories in the

00:13:03.020 1890s and 1900s. And their ancestors were all abused. They were pretty much slaves, working

00:13:10.020 for virtually nothing. The miners' families were the same. All over Britain, we could turn around 1.00

00:13:14.120 and say, we've had abuse from elitist masters who've taken our labor and used it to build their

00:13:19.560 empires and big houses. Why are they excluded? Haven't they got some sort of cultural or historical

00:13:24.760 pain that we remember? We remember what it's like to be in poverty, you know, in the 70s

00:13:30.160 and the 80s. Well, maybe not for you guys, to be honest. You know, you're far too young

00:13:33.580 and healthy compared to myself. But we do know what it was like when the lights were out in

00:13:37.240 the 80s. And so why is that excluded as a characteristic that should be considered when I'm doing the

00:13:42.880 crime? And I think that's the real point that's going to impact people in this country about

00:13:48.100 fairness. We're a nation of fairness. And we want to see it being fair to everyone all

00:13:53.820 the time. Speaking of fairness, it's one thing to talk about fairness in the abstract, the

00:13:58.660 abstract concept, because everyone will go out and say, we are fair. No, I'm not having

00:14:03.540 a go at you. Oh, it's true. You're absolutely right. I want to improve, to add to what you're

00:14:07.660 saying. The question is how fairness is being understood. So the Aristotelian, for instance,

00:14:13.140 understanding of fairness is completely different to the woke understanding of fairness. The woke

00:14:17.420 understanding of fairness wants to institute differential treatment. Why? Because they 0.99

00:14:23.940 say, well, until we are in the position to treat people equally, we are in a state of

00:14:28.700 emergency and we need to mitigate historical inequalities. And we need to help those who

00:14:35.680 have been historically oppressed. Sorry. Just to finish. But the way that they are understanding

00:14:43.260 who is oppressed or not, as you mentioned, is entirely arbitrary, which lends reports to

00:14:48.580 the view that what they care about is not fairness. What they care about is who is their political

00:14:52.680 friends and who are their political enemies. They want to benefit the former, harm the latter.

00:14:58.420 I think a rather oft overlooked point here is that there's a massive amount of hubris here

00:15:05.820 in the notion that they've got a complete understanding of basically human suffering.

00:15:11.980 They're basically trying to mitigate for the fact that some people have not had the best

00:15:16.660 shot at life. And to make these formal judgments saying, okay, these ethnicities, they've had a 0.60

00:15:23.580 particularly bad time, but other people, perhaps not white people, you know what, they've had an

00:15:27.340 easy ride of it. And as you've alluded to, that's not true. And the arrogance at play here to say

00:15:33.300 that, oh, you know what, these people who have come over and claimed welfare and not worked,

00:15:39.540 they're more persecuted than someone who's worked their entire life for effectively the state.

00:15:46.680 I see such a mismatch here, but that's not going to be acknowledged, is it? Because they think that

00:15:50.740 they understand the nature of human suffering, which they don't.

00:15:55.300 And I think that's an incredibly important point to ignore, what's happened as culturally to people

00:16:01.460 in this country as they've tried to make their lives better. I mean, you've suddenly reminded me

00:16:06.740 of a kind of story that I had as a junior barrister. I'd spent my first year, I'd prosecuted and defended

00:16:12.620 and not lost a single criminal case in the first year. So as a consequence of that, I was taken to a bar

00:16:17.680 around the corner from the criminal justice main courts. And I was, Benjamin's still in cleats,

00:16:23.380 I think it was called, I'm not sure it's still there anymore. And I was introduced to one of the

00:16:27.720 greatest barristers of his time, George Carman, by my pupil master, as we called him. And he goes

00:16:36.160 to George and his very posh voice, George, I'd like to introduce you to another Mancunian like 1.00

00:16:41.240 yourself, who's done incredibly well. He's great at the bar in crime. And George Carman turns around

00:16:47.360 to look at me and he's surrounded by a whole group of people, all fawning all over this great barrister.

00:16:53.060 And he says, what's your name? Again, equally in a posh. And I said, and I still had my Manc accent.

00:16:57.860 And I said, it's Stephen Wolfe from Manchester. Although I'm probably sounding scouse now at the

00:17:02.220 moment. I'm going to get killed by my family for doing that. And he turns around to me and his 0.99

00:17:07.180 only words to me were, if you want to go far at the bar, lose that accent, boy, lose that accent.

00:17:14.440 And that kind of privilege and the voice is doing you down because of where you came from. That's the

00:17:21.880 sort of level of suffering that we've had from those who've had to work in the pits to those who've

00:17:27.580 tried to climb out. Does that count? Is that going to be ignored? And I think that you're right. It

00:17:33.900 will be ignored because it's not relevant to their agenda. Exactly. I think it has to do a lot with the

00:17:41.100 left turning its back to the traditional working class. I think Lenin himself said that unless there 0.96

00:17:47.340 is a vanguard party that is going to tell the workers what their true interests are, they are going to

00:17:53.720 develop at most a syndicalist consciousness and they're going to choose capitalism, not communism.

00:17:59.800 And after the, I think when the more communism got discredited and actual socialism got discredited,

00:18:07.240 the left started focusing on in the sixties in universities. And then they, I think they're in

00:18:15.000 a position where they say we've lost the native working class. So they're going to opt for foreign people. 0.97

00:18:23.720 And your point is incredibly proven with the statistics that came out over the weekend

00:18:28.520 that showed that when you look at the particular parties support, Labour is now being supported by

00:18:34.600 the wealthiest individuals in this country at the higher end, the middle aged groups and those who've

00:18:40.440 gone to university. So they're saying that Labour supports the rich and the clever. I mean, to be honest,

00:18:46.200 I wouldn't necessarily say that everybody went to university is clever, but there we go.

00:18:49.560 Yeah, from my experiences, from my experience, certainly the case, but they, they love that. And that feeds

00:18:55.720 into this arrogance of a kind of a snobbish kind of view of looking down upon those below me who don't

00:19:02.520 understand the issues. And I find that patronizing. And it's exactly what your point is raised on that.

00:19:08.840 Thanks. So I think there are two interpretations of what is going on here. The first, which I find completely unlikely,

00:19:14.360 is that Labour actually has an issue with the two-tier justice system, which I don't think is,

00:19:20.200 I don't think it's particularly credible as a hypothesis. And the second one is that basically

00:19:25.800 they are in bed with them. And they are trying to, and the question there becomes, why are they doing so?

00:19:33.000 Well, part of it is because they want to approach elements of the other voters, groups of voters,

00:19:40.200 they think they have alienated. That's why we see Keir Starmer starting banging the drum of anger

00:19:45.480 against illegal migration right now. So what they could be doing is working together, having people

00:19:53.160 within the judiciary proposing, basically discrediting their judiciary within, in the eye of the public

00:20:01.800 mind. That's in public consciousness, pardon me. And that makes people being much more prone towards

00:20:10.040 government control, extra government control, because they say, well, look at all, look at the judiciary, 0.95

00:20:17.000 all of them are crazy, and they are harming society. So the only way to solve this is by

00:20:24.440 erasing the checks and balances that the judiciary poses to the government, and opt for a much stronger

00:20:31.480 executive. In which case, the question is, what, what are we going to make of, wait, where is the link?

00:20:39.320 I don't have, well, I don't have the link there. It's not there, but it doesn't matter. Keir Starmer has,

00:20:47.000 has kneeled before for the BLM cause. He has expressed sympathy for all the woke,

00:20:54.120 all the woke causes. We've talked extensively about two-tier policing, reporting, and sentencing here.

00:21:02.520 You can just, the examples are too many. You can just click on any video of this link to where we're

00:21:09.480 talking about the two-tier. But I mean, we did a lot, didn't we? Yeah. But what I will say is that,

00:21:13.720 apart from individual examples, the whole issue is, any person who supports woke progressivism is

00:21:20.680 supporting a two-tier society. Because woke progressivism is all about mitigating so-called

00:21:26.680 historical inequalities by means of differential treatment. Differential treatment means two-tier

00:21:33.720 treatment. So if one is promoting wokeness, one is promoting differential treatment and two-tier society.

00:21:40.840 I think Starmer's doing two things simultaneously. He's, as you say, empowering the government over

00:21:46.360 the judiciary, but he's also stealing Nigel Farage's two best talking points. He's basically taking

00:21:52.600 immigration and the two-tier justice system, both of which I think ordinary people can see with their

00:21:58.360 own eyes are massive problems. And he's sort of containing them. He's taking the steam out of the

00:22:03.800 sails to try and tank reform in the polls, because at the minute they're a real threat to Labour, aren't they?

00:22:09.800 I think it's interesting he's doing this just before the local elections, where those local

00:22:14.360 elections have been permitted to just to go ahead, which feeds into another story of where we're all

00:22:19.480 all going about controlling people's views. But when I look at this two-tier system that they create in

00:22:25.000 the two-tier politics, that is straight out of the book of communism. It's straight out of Stalinism.

00:22:29.960 It's all about removing the elites who are in power, then the kings, the knights, the barons,

00:22:33.800 whoever they may be, wherever they are in the world. I'm replacing them with our lot. Now, 0.99

00:22:39.080 our lot gets the house, our lot gets the car, our lot gets the nice sinecure job and pension for the

00:22:44.680 right. And you lot, who we said we were helping, you're still in the same place as you were before.

00:22:49.640 And that's what the public's understanding. They realize it doesn't matter who's flipping

00:22:53.160 over at the moment. We're still where we are, and we're not getting any better.

00:22:57.400 And at the end of the day, I think it's institutions matter, but people are in charge

00:23:02.120 of institutions. So whether people now focus on institutions and the judiciary and the executive

00:23:08.760 or any kind of branch, at the end of the days, who is going to be entrusted with guarding those

00:23:16.360 institutions? And I think, for instance, people not constantly talk about the ECHR to say why people

00:23:23.720 shouldn't be deported. The ECHR doesn't say people shouldn't be deported unconditionally.

00:23:29.000 No, he doesn't say that. It gives you the opportunity to remove it. It gives you the

00:23:34.680 chance to do so. So it's people, Poland, for example, that they did pretty well,

00:23:39.080 didn't they, without any of that sort of stuff. And they're within the EU. And in many ways,

00:23:43.320 they're doing much better than a lot of other European countries for it.

00:23:46.600 So ladies and gentlemen, tell us whether you think that labor actually has an issue with

00:23:51.000 two-tier society or not. Thank you very much.

00:23:55.480 We have a quick comment here from Rage Quit Ninja says, does this not effectively break

00:24:01.800 current UK equality laws and thus illegal? No, because the Equalities Act, was it 2010?

00:24:07.960 Yes.

00:24:09.000 I think that allows for exceptions for discrimination in favour of ethnic minorities.

00:24:15.720 Protected groups, I think is the phrase that it likes to use. And I think, can we remember what

00:24:21.720 Stelius said in the sentencing line? Was it cohorts? Yes.

00:24:26.360 So we've got protected groups, we've got cohorts, even though that sort of language that is used

00:24:32.280 to me is actually frightening usage because it's actually disassociating what they're really trying

00:24:37.960 to do and trying to blend it into a nice friendly cohort. But mind you, cohort was not a nice word when

00:24:43.560 it was created. No. Okay, well, it's time for your segment, yes.

00:24:49.960 Well, I think you have to have your head in your sands if you're not hearing the news across

00:24:55.080 from Europe at the moment. Really quite concerning for me, a decision by a court that Marie Le Pen is

00:25:01.480 barred from seeking public office for embezzlement, as we see here in the world news coming from AP,

00:25:07.400 which I understood was the only group that was allowed to be in the court to actually do the press,

00:25:12.120 which is why so many of the articles that are coming out are exactly the same. And this is

00:25:17.480 about Marie Le Pen, who along with 24 others, and I think there was eight MEPs, but also the staff

00:25:24.520 members, who when they were in the European Parliament, roughly around the time that I was there,

00:25:29.720 were all accused of embezzling European Union funds to support their political activities.

00:25:37.160 Well, not only am I finding that incredibly surprising, because literally that's what

00:25:42.200 every single MEP and political party did with the European Union funds.

00:25:47.400 Is this a sort of similar thing to what the Chinese do, in that they have laws that cover pretty much

00:25:53.240 the entire citizenry, or at least everyone of concern, and then they selectively enforce it?

00:25:59.240 Absolutely, because not only have they done that with, I think, Daniel Hannan, when he was an MEP,

00:26:06.680 was pursued, I think, again, egregiously over conference money that he used from the European

00:26:13.720 Parliament through a legitimate organisation. He organised conferences across the globe, which

00:26:20.440 people like myself, MEPs, would fly out and give conferences about and talk about the European Union,

00:26:24.600 because it didn't fit their definition of what European Union was or supporting. They went after

00:26:30.360 him. I remember in my own particular party, not myself, that many MEPs at the time who were part of

00:26:36.680 UKIP were actually also forced to return funding on a similar principle. And I watched it across many

00:26:43.640 different political parties, except those who were green, socialists, Christian Democrats, for example,

00:26:51.240 the Liberal Democrats, ALDI, as they're called. All the willing potential partners of coalition.

00:26:55.880 All the coalition partners were allowed to take the same levels of money and employ people and have

00:27:01.480 conferences across. So what we have now, I think, in terms of the next kind of clip that we've got on

00:27:09.080 the link is we're seeing that they've not only made her guilty, if we go down, but they've sentenced

00:27:14.520 here to four years, four years now. And that's cataclysmic. You've got four years, a hundred

00:27:21.160 thousand euro fine, which will be nothing to her because people were paid off. But it's a five-year

00:27:26.680 term in eligibility to run from office immediately. This is a political hit. This is absolutely intended

00:27:35.000 not to really ensure that justice is to be seen. It's to make sure that her rising power is not capable 1.00

00:27:42.360 of rising any further, is to cause discord in the national rally political parties, to make sure

00:27:50.040 that they're incapable of having their leader stand on television, the most effective performer,

00:27:55.800 when it comes down to the presidential election, where you have Macron, who's failing, and everybody

00:28:00.040 else around them are failing. So we get to a position where, as you go into the the next link,

00:28:06.840 this is exactly what Marie Le Pen is saying. It would have the effect of depriving me of being

00:28:13.080 a presidential candidate, and quite rightly disenfranchising her 11 million supporters, 0.98

00:28:19.080 and potentially millions more. Because of course, in the last election, they effectively won the

00:28:23.960 popular vote. And it was only by some canny politicking from Macron and the left that they

00:28:30.360 sort of outmaneuvered her by, I don't necessarily know how to put it, but they worked within the

00:28:36.680 political system to do something that seems very undemocratic. Yes, Macron teamed up with,

00:28:42.680 was it the communist, the Melanchon guy. Yes, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's like,

00:28:46.840 that's like Hitler joining up with Stalin to ensure that the defeat is in the Second World War,

00:28:51.560 and then make sure that they stay in power. And that's the way that I see it. It's those two wings

00:28:56.120 of like politics come together to stop somebody who has clearly got the votes of the people.

00:29:02.280 And I think we're seeing that all across Europe. Look at the AFD. Not only are they ensuring that

00:29:07.800 AFD is coming second and not going to have a chance to have any real link in power,

00:29:12.360 they're actually organised before the new parliament, a change in the law relating to the budget,

00:29:19.480 so that they can spend the money before the next parliament comes in. And this is what's

00:29:24.120 happening. They're really, really frightened of those people who stand outside of the group,

00:29:29.800 outside of the team. They really don't like them. If you're not giving them a hug and a back slapper,

00:29:33.800 and you're having a good lunch with them. If you're sat over in the table in the corner, we go,

00:29:38.120 I'm not sure about that. We don't like them, but they're winning. What can we do to get rid of them?

00:29:43.000 And they're using lawfare in order to do it. Now, of course, as you'll see in the next link,

00:29:50.200 the lawyers, the judges, the politicians are saying, well, it's nothing to do with lawfare

00:29:55.720 against her as a politician. It's all about here, as he says, that no one's on trial for doing

00:30:01.720 politics. That's not the issue. The issue is whether the contracts had been executed properly.

00:30:08.280 They recognised there was no personal enrichment for Marie Le Pen. The 400,000 there that she was

00:30:14.600 charged was that there was enrichment of the party. So the party was able to employ people.

00:30:21.560 The party was able to have conferences. The party was able to have its own security.

00:30:26.040 That's enrichment of the party. And therefore, she's guilty of embezzlement to be able to do 1.00

00:30:31.480 that. That's their argument. As I say, in the European Parliament, we saw lots of political parties

00:30:36.040 doing this all the time, but they're not being charged or investigated in the same way.

00:30:39.320 But do any of us really believe that this is just about the contracts being executed?

00:30:45.240 Of course not. And I think that the prior actions of other French political parties

00:30:50.520 indicate that they're willing to do anything to keep them out of power, aren't they? Because

00:30:54.760 they know that once they are in power, it's sort of over for them politically. It's a last

00:31:00.600 desperate attempt. We saw similar things in the United States, didn't we, where the Democrats

00:31:05.800 were doing very poorly? And so they relied on lawfare. And the fact that Kamala Harris didn't

00:31:12.040 even bother releasing any policies seemed to suggest that, well, you know, our best bet is

00:31:18.120 attack, not actually putting forward any positive vision.

00:31:21.880 To add to this, I don't think that necessarily they are afraid that if Marine Le Pen gets elected,

00:31:27.720 they'll never see power again. I don't think that's so much the issue as much as they

00:31:32.760 them thinking that right now they're unpopular and they're promoting unpopular measures and policies.

00:31:39.960 And the only way to compete with others is to basically trash the popular opposition.

00:31:47.480 I don't think it's so much that they think that if Le Pen wins, they'll never see it's going to be

00:31:52.440 the end. It's not so much the long term, you're seeing it as short term.

00:31:55.400 I think there are way more short term. I can believe that. Yeah, I think the short term element

00:31:59.880 is about the agenda globally is changing and they're not happy with that. And they think if

00:32:03.960 they can hit everybody with the short term and make sure they don't gain power, there's no momentum

00:32:07.960 to support Donald Trump's or the MAGA movement or whatever they believe is the kind of devil that's

00:32:13.320 sitting across the other side of the Atlantic. And so let's make sure it doesn't embed itself

00:32:17.960 strongly in Europe as well. Because if Europe and America were doing so, then all the woke agenda you

00:32:22.840 talked about early on would actually start to dissipate. And we'd have somebody be able to

00:32:27.160 come back against them. But we've seen it here, not just here. In France, did they not close a

00:32:31.320 newspaper down? Recently, that was right wing of very popular and being incredibly successful.

00:32:36.840 No doubt if Lotus Eaters were out there, they'd try and close this down as well for being incredibly

00:32:41.960 successful. Some of my posts on X or Twitter or whatever it's called these days are limited in France

00:32:49.240 for some reason. I didn't know that. It's very interesting. Yes. And just let me add to this.

00:32:54.680 Every time I go back to Greece, the feed is completely different. A lot more mainstream media

00:33:01.240 accounts are appearing on X. Okay. Well, that's interesting because then what I've done here now

00:33:08.120 is go through why I think it's not just about Marie Le Pen. This is a concerted plan by the European

00:33:14.840 powers that be elitist authoritarian. So if you take the next four, try and go through them. We've

00:33:20.520 just seen George Esco from Romania, clearly a massive winner. But his issue? Oh, he's supposedly

00:33:27.480 a shrill of Russia. So they had a constitutional court that ruled in just two hours, just two hours, 0.82

00:33:36.120 that this man is obviously not capable of winning at the seats and that the TikTok accounts backing

00:33:42.200 him were all those of Russia. By the way, Marie Le Pen is also accused of being a Russian shriller in 0.70

00:33:48.120 the pockets of Putin. So I don't know whether that's got a link to it as well.

00:33:52.200 He and everyone who is a target.

00:33:53.480 Anyone else. Anybody else who opposes the elites always in the background.

00:33:57.560 Russians are very busy. 1.00

00:33:58.680 Yeah. I've got my helicopter just outside. I'm going to go fly down to my little kind of

00:34:04.920 Naples base, obviously. It's nonsense most of the time. So we have George Esco. Then before that,

00:34:12.440 we have the AFD and we see them. AFD, a constitutional court sought to ban the party before the elections.

00:34:21.320 So another example of them being frightened of a party that's rising with an agenda that's not

00:34:25.720 was there. But it wasn't just recently. It's before that, too. So we go back to what somebody

00:34:30.840 I thought was a really, really crucial and rising star of the right hurts in Austria. And he resigns

00:34:38.200 amid a corruption inquiry. Now, either he was politically naive and dragged into that or it was

00:34:43.640 a plant. But this man had the links of being very calm, met him many times, very thoughtful,

00:34:49.160 actually really intellectual idea of how to challenge the status quo and was winning significant

00:34:56.520 power, not just here, but actually gaining ground in the United States. So they cut him out and he

00:35:01.400 resigned and he's just faded away. Why? And then, of course, we had Gert Wilders before that,

00:35:07.400 you know, found guilty of inciting for inciting discrimination against Moroccans who were here

00:35:13.720 illegally. No doubt any of us that criticized the boat people would face exactly the same. 0.97

00:35:19.400 So this, in my view, is a concerted attack. Where did it come from? Was this just out of the blue

00:35:25.640 or all these politicians across Europe really, really just enacting criminal activity, fraud,

00:35:32.040 all the rest of it? Or is it something deeper? And I believe this is concerted. I think if you look at the

00:35:37.640 the next link, we see why Europe should harden its soft power to lawfare. Now, this is by

00:35:44.280 SEPS, who are a very large and important and influential think tank in Europe. I've constantly

00:35:51.800 had lots of reports from them whilst I was over there. And I know when you're bringing down their

00:35:57.080 article and you look at what they're saying is that the Brussels effect is that EU law should be used

00:36:02.840 globally, its neighbors, on corporations to promote their ideology of warfare. And it's very clear,

00:36:13.000 we should adopt the Chinese concept of legal warfare, Faluzan.

00:36:18.440 Oh, wow. I didn't realize I'd be quite as prophetic at the start here.

00:36:21.880 Yeah. So this is 2020. Okay, it's only five years ago, but I believe actually that

00:36:26.040 people were looking at this before. They talk about using the laws coined in the US in 2001,

00:36:33.400 has effectively deployed financial insurance and energy law to boost its power on its adversaries.

00:36:39.080 We've then seen how it's used to boost its power against politicians in the US. And also beyond that,

00:36:46.120 I know of a personal friend of mine who's one of the big group of people that raised money for Donald

00:36:54.040 Trump in his campaign. He and the top three fundraisers were all attacked in different states.

00:37:00.600 He was charged with something like 99 offences over a $2,000 donation to one of his projects,

00:37:08.120 99 offences, with a something like 500 year potential imprisonment,

00:37:14.120 and millions of dollars of fines. In the end, they settled for five months, one offence and

00:37:22.600 two million, of which he's still disputed, because all of it was nonsense. They know it's nonsense.

00:37:29.560 The reason they put 99 offences is that you get ground down with the cost of having to defend

00:37:34.680 each of those offences. So you go, okay, what's the least I can get? But all of them are now seeking

00:37:40.280 to have them overturned through appeals, but it goes on for years. So they attack not just the

00:37:44.200 politicians, everybody else behind them.

00:37:47.240 What is interesting there is that this is a recipe for disaster, and it's self-defeating,

00:37:54.280 because what they're doing is that they rest upon people's praise of justice. They rest upon

00:38:01.400 legitimacy of the institutions of justice. And because they do so, they want to say,

00:38:06.680 let's brand as illegal those who are our political enemies. But the more they do this,

00:38:13.480 the more they discredit and delegitimize those institutions.

00:38:17.720 Absolutely. I couldn't agree more.

00:38:18.760 So it's going to backfire.

00:38:20.040 It feeds into what you're saying about the sentencing council. It feeds into about the

00:38:23.640 College of Policing. It feeds into all of those who are involved in that side of it. It feeds into

00:38:28.600 our kind of discontent with parliament. And I think it goes not just with ourselves. I think in my final

00:38:35.080 bit that I've got over there in the last one, it's not just us. It's the left. Here's the left in

00:38:41.400 the European Parliament, who again, I watched whilst I was there. They were abused. They were

00:38:49.480 not permitted to have representatives on certain bodies. They were not allowed to have their legitimate

00:38:55.640 amounts of money granted to them. They too, different necessary political viewpoint to me,

00:39:02.120 happy to have discussions and debates with them, as we should do in a free democratic world.

00:39:06.840 They too were facing the same sort of lawfare being used against them. Now, I don't necessarily

00:39:12.440 agree with all the people that they've got in their list in that particular article, but I understand

00:39:16.840 it. They feel it too. The left and the right are feeling it. There's only that group in the middle

00:39:22.600 that are like frightened little puppies and dogs in a corner are saying they want to attack everybody

00:39:27.560 else. There's a question on that, that if you say that the left and the right are doing it,

00:39:33.480 who is being prosecuted actually? Because it seems like most people from the right.

00:39:38.200 The left is an expert on self-victimization, so they say they're...

00:39:42.920 There is a truancy.

00:39:44.280 ...but it seems to me that only people from the right wing are being...

00:39:48.520 Well, only people on the right wing that we've seen, one would argue that they would say Sanchez was

00:39:55.160 attacked in Spain and the same... But I don't see that. He wasn't actually taken to court

00:39:59.640 over anything. The only ones who are going to court, actually, are those on the right.

00:40:03.560 So I think the self-victimization, when I looked through the Guardian article that listed a lot

00:40:07.720 of people there, not one of them actually was a criminal case about... It was all about,

00:40:11.880 I feel pretty upset you're attacking me for my views. That's not lawfare. Lawfare is when you actually

00:40:17.720 get the lawyers involved, either prosecutor or through civil action, and you take us on. Their

00:40:22.920 argument is that maybe we've got to stop oil, and we're attacking them in that particular way.

00:40:28.200 Whatever it is, whether it's left or right, the idea that this central group of people can use the

00:40:33.080 law and destabilize our institutions and our common law and our sense of justice is incredibly

00:40:39.640 short-sighted, it's deliberate, and I don't believe in the long term it's healthy for all of us to be

00:40:46.440 able to turn around and criticize all our judges, criticize all of us lawyers as being liars or deceitful

00:40:51.720 a dishonest. And by building that, they actually help remove the foundations of a legitimate,

00:40:59.400 carefully built, carefully constructed, judo-christian constructs in our nationhood 0.99

00:41:07.240 and across our culture that has had a fairness. Remove that and we end up in the slippery road

00:41:13.640 of being done like a communist China. That's my view on it. 0.68

00:41:20.440 I very much agree.

00:41:21.320 Sorry. I don't know what your guys who are listening in have to say about it at all.

00:41:26.200 I'm sure they will agree. I mean, we talk about all of this sort of thing, and I think our common

00:41:31.800 line on it is that the sort of centrist globalist faction will do anything to keep

00:41:37.720 their bureaucratic control unchallenged. I think that there's plenty of evidence to suggest that

00:41:43.160 that is the case. But South Africa now, we're going to be very grateful we live in Europe after 0.82

00:41:50.920 hearing about this, believe me. Yeah. So deeply concerning. South Africa is fighting back, not just

00:41:58.520 the ANC government, the party of Nelson Mandela, but also the Afrikaans minority as well. And there's

00:42:06.440 two different stories layered over one another. And to understand this, you've sort of got to follow

00:42:12.600 the back and forth between South African government and the US government, because this has been the

00:42:20.280 accelerant to kick all of this off. So the thing that started it all, really,

00:42:25.160 is Simul Ramah Posa signed an expropriation bill into law. And what this did was it allowed the

00:42:31.480 government to expropriate land or take people's land and not pay them for it. Compensation part of

00:42:37.960 it was optional. So in theory, you could be a farmer and the government can say, I want your land,

00:42:43.720 and they don't give you anything for it, even though you owned it. And of course,

00:42:47.560 this is obviously an erosion of private property rights. They don't really exist in South Africa,

00:42:53.400 because the government can just take things from you. Well, we've got that under the Labour

00:42:57.880 government who want to take farms away at not even market price. So this is a halfway house to that.

00:43:02.920 It is indeed. And this was obviously to target the white minority in South Africa, because of course,

00:43:09.880 the ANC has made it its business to whip up anger at this minority and blame their failings to

00:43:19.080 keep the infrastructure they had functional. And so they're distracting people from their inability

00:43:27.080 to govern by saying, well, look at all of these white farmers, they own all the land, therefore 0.87

00:43:32.760 they're greedy, they're taking things from you. When in reality, they're incompetent and quite often 0.98

00:43:38.280 very corrupt. Everyone knows that corruption in South Africa is rife. And a lot of the time, 0.95

00:43:45.000 these things are not being done because there's someone being paid. And also that it's worth

00:43:50.520 mentioning these land expropriations. Quite often, when they're actually there marking up the farms to

00:43:57.320 take them, there are politicians on the ground saying, oh, well, I'll have this bit. And so they're

00:44:02.200 directly benefiting from it. They know that they're the ones that get to choose which farms get taken,

00:44:07.400 and they can take some for themselves. And they said, don't be alarmed, the court may award you

00:44:15.080 nil compensation, but it's not required to. So it's okay. And of course, this is not reassuring

00:44:21.480 whatsoever, because you're still at the mercy of the courts as to whether your livelihood is ruined.

00:44:27.400 And then eventually, America caught wind of this. Trump cut US financial aid to South Africa,

00:44:34.680 citing his disapproval of the laws and also their foreign policy aims in that South Africa brought

00:44:41.320 the genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice. And it was a sort of punitive

00:44:46.280 measure on top of that for that as well. Obviously, a close American ally. And then you see Elon Musk,

00:44:54.440 of course, being South African saying, the legacy media never mentions the white genocide in South

00:44:59.480 Africa, because it doesn't fit the narrative that whites can be victims. And I think that

00:45:05.240 that's very true. And in fact, what is happening in South Africa is awful for the white minority.

00:45:12.600 We complain a lot about what's going on in Britain and Europe and North America. But we can't really

00:45:17.960 hold a candle to the suffering that's going on in South Africa, because some of the most appalling

00:45:21.480 things I've ever heard of are going on there. And many of the white South Africans gathered and

00:45:26.760 supported what Trump said, because it's very significant, you know, the leader of the free

00:45:31.800 world, as they say, coming out and pointing out your persecution. And they were very positive about

00:45:38.360 that. And you only need to look at the number of race laws in South Africa. And you can see that big dip

00:45:44.600 towards the end of apartheid. And then you can see that it actually rises above the sort of apartheid

00:45:51.160 level under the ANC governance. And of course, all of these laws, they're not discriminating against

00:45:56.680 the native black population, they're discriminating against the white population. That's why those laws 1.00

00:46:01.160 exist. And the ANC...

00:46:03.240 They have similar sorts of laws now that just literally state it's white who will, like we're 0.76

00:46:08.920 about to see in a potential sentencing council. You know, if you're white or you're historically

00:46:14.520 white, not only will you lose your land, you can't get a job or...

00:46:18.520 Oh, it's very egregious. I'm going to go through some of the examples soon. And it is very explicit.

00:46:26.680 And South African president says the persecution of whites is a false narrative. And Elon Musk

00:46:34.680 doubled down on this. The ANC line has basically been, they're making it up, they're far right,

00:46:40.920 they're racist. It sounds very familiar, doesn't it? Yeah. And a court ruled that the claims of

00:46:48.600 white genocide are not real. This was a South African court. Oh, okay.

00:46:53.240 And so it's basically like we've ruled ourselves innocent. Yeah.

00:46:58.120 Yeah. Judging our own judgments. Exactly. And then they were in sort of a bit of diplomatic

00:47:07.240 warfare here. They hinted at a nuclear deal with Iran and Russia. And what's common about those two

00:47:11.960 nations? Oh, wait, they're both enemies of the United States. And so the United... 0.65

00:47:16.600 Oh, you're going to say something, Stella? No, no. It's just, you're talking about Cyril

00:47:20.040 Ramaphosa. And I think it's good to tell to the audience that this is not the politicians who go

00:47:25.720 goes out and chants death to the boards. That's right. That's Julius Merlema.

00:47:32.040 Although he hasn't disavowed that chant, by the way, he's never said anything against it.

00:47:36.840 And in response, the US supported a French company investing in gas in Mozambique. And so if the South

00:47:45.480 Africans do get this project underway, a neighboring country is going to have cheaper energy than them 1.00

00:47:50.760 anyway. And so it's undermined that effort. And there's a bit of a battle going on here.

00:47:56.840 Basically, Trump freed up 4.7 billion US dollars to a French company that was frozen since 2021.

00:48:04.360 But that's not the focus necessarily. It's just interesting that it happened. And then the US

00:48:09.480 expelled the South African envoy after I think he called Trump a white supremacist. And they said

00:48:16.040 he was race baiting and basically sent him packing, which is fair enough, I think, because that was 1.00

00:48:21.960 what he was doing really. Yeah.

00:48:23.880 And then let's look at some examples of clear discrimination here. So a cricket team, very English

00:48:31.400 export here, but they were kicked out of a competition for failing to select at least three black players

00:48:38.040 for the competition. I've heard of a story of in a rugby match in the last minute someone was injured

00:48:45.000 and then they brought on a substitute for the last minute of the game. And because the substitute

00:48:50.280 wasn't a black player and the player was black, all of a sudden they fell underneath their quota and

00:48:55.640 they were disqualified from the tournament, even though the majority of the game had already been won.

00:49:01.160 And of course, you might think, OK, well, this is sport. It's not the end of the world. Well,

00:49:05.880 as has been, I mean, it's still important. It's still part of our culture.

00:49:09.800 In many ways, it is a really important part of the world because it's our escape. It's our way of

00:49:14.280 looking away from what's happening around us, the job implications that we have, the bosses that are

00:49:20.440 talking to us, what's going on at home. It's our chance to be free and to enjoy just the sport. And we

00:49:26.760 don't want to be interfered with by government, government diktat, rules like that. And I find

00:49:32.600 it oppressive that when we get an opportunity just to relax, they're even imposing their ideology on

00:49:38.120 us then. I hardly agree. Sports because sports is basically the paradigm for most people for what

00:49:43.720 fair competition looks like. Yeah, absolutely. And you can see here, this is a declaration by

00:49:50.440 employee. And you can see employees should use terms to ascertain which employees are from

00:49:55.320 designated groups in terms of the Employment Equality Act of 1998. And then you go down here,

00:50:01.960 designated groups mean black people, women and people with disabilities. So we see lots of DEI

00:50:10.200 policies in Western countries, but it's very, very explicit. What's that? Sorry.

00:50:16.680 You've got the rules of the Sentencing Council up there, I'm sure.

00:50:18.840 You do. I do indeed, yeah. In a manner of speech. Sorry.

00:50:23.720 It's also worth mentioning here that the box is African, coloured, Indian and white.

00:50:28.520 The term coloured is a sort of colonial holdover. It just means mixed race, basically. But

00:50:34.760 they're afforded similar privileges to those of African descent. And it's actually quite often the 0.89

00:50:40.360 Indian and white residents that are discriminated against by these laws and the riots in 2021. And

00:50:47.800 lots of Indians were actually targeted because they believed that the Indians were unfairly extracting

00:50:54.840 wealth from their country. And they burnt down lots of distribution centres, which massively damaged

00:51:00.840 their economy and achieved very little politically.

00:51:03.000 But we can, oh, I think we, yes, page four. So this has some good stats on it. It says,

00:51:13.080 this is the data on farming. So apparently 72% of the total farms and agriculture holdings by

00:51:20.680 individual landowners are owned by whites. And so that is the majority of farms.

00:51:27.160 And the government's own data suggests that 90% of farms that have been redistributed

00:51:32.760 failed. So this is their own internal data.

00:51:37.480 So this is interesting because, of course, you look at somewhere like Zimbabwe, or formerly Rhodesia,

00:51:45.000 as I like to call it. They took all of the white farmers' land and then a million people starved to 0.85

00:51:51.080 death. And obviously a massive human tragedy, not in anyone's interest to have that outcome.

00:51:57.400 And what happened is that people didn't, it was sort of like this cargo cult behavior.

00:52:02.280 They didn't realize that the reason that the white farmers were producing so much of their food, 0.71

00:52:07.160 say, is because they're using different agricultural techniques. There are lots of

00:52:12.680 things that you need to do, particularly in somewhere like South Africa, that's perhaps a

00:52:17.000 more difficult climate to farm in than, say, Britain. There are lots of things you need to do.

00:52:21.240 There's lots of complicated machinery. There's a lot more to it than you might think. It's not just

00:52:24.680 putting seeds in the ground and waiting. And I think that people tend to have a very

00:52:29.640 naive view of what goes into farming. And if anyone's watched Clarkson's Farm,

00:52:33.240 they need not imagine that it's actually a very difficult job. And I think that what's

00:52:38.280 playing out in South Africa is that they see a farm as just an easy way of getting

00:52:43.080 wealth. It's your key to becoming wealthy. And actually, there's a lot of hard work that goes

00:52:48.040 into it. And it is a way of life that has to be passed down. Because if you don't have that

00:52:53.480 knowledge passed on to you, you're really going to struggle. And that's true of anyone, regardless.

00:52:57.560 They want to get hold of it and then just sell it on to the major large corporates,

00:53:00.840 who run it for you, and they just can do a flip. Which is what I see here is one of the main

00:53:07.160 things when we're trying to impoverish our farmers, bankrupt them through inheritance tax,

00:53:12.600 give them the opportunity for the councils to be able to do compulsory purchase orders at less

00:53:17.160 than market rate, is so that they can flip it to companies that are going to put wind farms on

00:53:22.520 solar panel or be a large intermediate for the American companies that will come in and buy the

00:53:28.280 land and then rent it out to the same farmers. It wouldn't surprise me if the same thing's going

00:53:32.600 on here. So the land grabbers are already operating. And as you can see here, you just get crowds of

00:53:38.280 people that just turn up and try and get their parcel, usually with a politician in tow adjudicating

00:53:45.400 it and also carving out a nice piece for themselves. And it's worth pointing as well that if you are a

00:53:51.720 white farmer, one of the farm tools that might not be familiar to you as a European or North American,

00:53:57.960 well maybe not North American, but as a European farmer is that you have to have an assault rifle by

00:54:03.000 you at all times because you're in constant danger of the farmland attacks. And of course,

00:54:08.680 this was investigated by Lauren Southern when she looked at the farmland murders

00:54:13.880 where white farmers had their farms invaded. And there's a really horrible case here.

00:54:21.800 I'm going to summarise what he's saying because the video is six and a half minutes long, but he

00:54:25.480 is a former police officer. He's talking about his first farm murder. And let me just tell

00:54:31.080 you about what happened here. Five men waited for the family to return from church before attacking

00:54:36.040 them. The father and grandfather were bludgeoned to death with hammers. The wife was sexually assaulted

00:54:42.280 at gunpoint by four different people. The 13-year-old daughter was sexually assaulted three times and

00:54:47.480 stabbed in the back of the head, but thankfully survived. And then they had written political slogans

00:54:53.400 in blood on the walls. And apparently the interior of the house was so thick with blood that it, when

00:55:00.920 the police officers actually stepped on it, it was seeping out of the carpets beneath them. This is the

00:55:06.440 kind of thing that the white South Africans have to face. This is not something that any human being 0.81

00:55:11.800 should have to face, especially not people who are disproportionately productive for their country.

00:55:18.520 They're taxed far more than others. They're discriminated against by the law, and they're

00:55:24.200 also providing a disproportionate amount of the food for the country. It strikes me as very ungrateful

00:55:30.440 that they're basically doing all the hard work to prop up what is essentially becoming a failed state

00:55:37.640 here. And their reward is some of the worst political persecution in the world. What does the left

00:55:46.600 about it in this country say? Nothing, just as they say nothing about our farmers. Just as they say,

00:55:51.160 nothing against the farmers in Holland or the same in Canada. Well, they don't vote for the left-wing

00:55:57.480 parties, do they? Exactly. So what you're seeing here is not a prison. This is a South African

00:56:03.000 household's bedroom. This is it gated off from the rest of the house for security, because this is

00:56:10.440 not some paranoid weirdo. This is a necessary measure. And to Europe and North America, this

00:56:18.200 is completely unthinkable. I get worried when I see bars in certain continental European countries on

00:56:27.160 their windows and things like that. I think that's a bit excessive, isn't it? But to have them in your own

00:56:31.320 homes. By the bars you see in certain parts of the United States when you drive through, it's actually

00:56:35.880 really, really scary and abysmal. It's inhuman. So let's get on to the EFF, or the Economic Freedom

00:56:43.800 Fighters, which is a very ironic name. So they're communists and black nationalists, as you might

00:56:49.000 expect, and they're headed by Julius Malema. He's refused to testify that he would not call for the

00:56:54.440 murder of whites in the future, but he did testify that he might call for the slaughter of whites in the 0.92

00:56:59.400 future when asked by a journalist. Interesting. And there are still people in South Africa that are 0.99

00:57:07.960 saying that the problems of apartheid still exist. Here she's saying, My book, No White Lies,

00:57:13.880 White Power and Black Politics in South Africa, reveals the ugly truth that white South Africans 1.00

00:57:18.280 have failed to repent for and make reparations for apartheid sins. Interesting that they're using 0.99

00:57:25.000 religious language there, isn't it? We remain privileged, entitled, and arrogant in democratic

00:57:30.120 South Africa. It is shameful that we have no moral compass and have ever offered reparations

00:57:34.520 for all the harm we have caused. So let's point out the fact that she has actually contributed for

00:57:41.400 the EFF. So she is a communist. That's worth pointing out. It's enough for pointing out that the

00:57:48.680 party that she's supporting would actually kill her. I know, yeah. A bit of a quizzling, isn't she? 1.00

00:57:54.040 I just, yeah, I just find that really odd. By the way, here's the target. I'll just help you out

00:57:57.720 and then just kill me after you've won. I just don't understand these people. Do any of us really 1.00

00:58:04.920 understand what's going on between their ears? Can we understand how they've got this self-implosion

00:58:09.800 of wanting to kill themselves, wipe themselves out, just for the sake of the communist manifesto?

00:58:15.400 I might do a bit of armchair psychologising and say that they hate themselves and therefore they're

00:58:19.640 inflicting their own self-hatred on the world. That would be my best guess.

00:58:25.640 Then you had this. This was in 2023. This is the EFF rally where they're talking,

00:58:31.960 they're singing the song about killing the boar. And imagine you lived in South Africa

00:58:36.360 and this was a stadium full of people that are happy to sing about killing you. 0.95

00:58:40.360 Yes. Would you be happy to, you know, appear in public life? No wonder you have places like

00:58:47.080 Irania where they're white only towns because at least they can feel safe knowing that they have 1.00

00:58:52.920 people that aren't going to murder them for their property. And then Elon... Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

00:58:57.400 I just wanted to say that this is why culture is important because if someone did this here,

00:59:05.160 most probably they'd go in jail. It's incitement of violence.

00:59:09.400 We haven't quite got to this point yet, but it is certainly

00:59:14.040 on the right track to becoming a reality here as well. Well, I think sometimes we hear it on the

00:59:18.440 streets when we're talking about the way that we look at Israel and Jewish people. It's a similar sort

00:59:24.600 of conceptual idea that they're chanting when they're supporting Hannes in such numbers that

00:59:31.400 how far is that link? Isn't that that fine line that we've been talking about? This thin thread

00:59:36.600 between democratic values and murder caused by this level of hatred. Are we not on that line?

00:59:43.400 Which is why we're all debating this so strongly in strident. It is also here to a certain extent

00:59:48.440 because I can use the example of in France where there was the case of that teenage boy who got

00:59:54.120 shot by the French police for refusing to stop his car. And then a group of 15 to 20 Muslims went to

01:00:00.680 a small French town of about 140 people, went to an event and stabbed a 16 year old to death because 0.62

01:00:06.600 he was a French boy. And it was purely racial. It's purely motivated about ethnic revenge. It's already 0.75

01:00:13.400 here. It doesn't necessarily need to be the government doing it, but we already live amongst people that

01:00:17.960 are more than happy to do this sort of thing. Now, Elon Musk has got a bit of a vendetta against the

01:00:23.960 EFF, as one can imagine. And he says, very few people know that there is a major political party

01:00:28.120 in South Africa that is actively promoting white genocide, which I think is a fair characterization. 1.00

01:00:32.680 They explicitly sing songs about killing them. They make gun sounds. They talk about shooting the farmers. 0.98

01:00:38.680 It's about as explicit as it could possibly be. And the defense of the South African government is

01:00:44.360 it's just political terminology. It's just hyperbole. If only we had such lack standards

01:00:50.360 in Britain for that sort of thing. Maybe not to favor the minorities. But anyway, a month ago,

01:00:57.160 the South African government passed a law legalizing taking property from white people at the will

01:01:01.720 with no payment. Where is the outrage? Why is there no coverage by the legacy media? Starlink can't get

01:01:06.840 a license to operate in South Africa simply because I'm not black. How is that right? And in fact,

01:01:11.000 South Africa is the only country in Southern Africa that has refused them. And it seems to be out of

01:01:16.360 spite because of course they could do with the infrastructure. They're not in a position to choose.

01:01:21.160 And then Malema responded to Elon Musk saying we must not be intimidated by him and our friends will

01:01:27.080 never be the United Kingdom, France or the USA who are never there for us during difficult times.

01:01:32.280 Palestine was there for us. Okay. Interesting. I don't remember all those Palestinians helping in 1.00

01:01:40.440 the apartheid era. Was there a secret cohort of ANC Palestine?

01:01:44.520 I do know that the ANC was funded by lots of enemies of the United States though. So that's interesting.

01:01:52.280 And yes, here's them chanting it on Human Rights Day in South Africa, which is a wonderful irony. 0.91

01:01:58.840 Um, it's also worth mentioning as well that he's not just some obscure figure. He's got quite a bit

01:02:03.800 of reach there. 4.4 million followers. I imagine a decent portion of them are following in horror

01:02:08.680 more than anything, but still worth mentioning. He has a sizable platform. He's not just nobody.

01:02:14.760 And then here, um, here is Marco Rubio. I don't know why he's here because that link is not meant to be

01:02:22.840 that high up. Uh, okay. Um, the link seemed to be a bit messed up. Um, let's just skip that stuff

01:02:31.720 because you, you get the gist by this point. They're not very nice people, but there was a

01:02:38.440 documentary released by a group called Afriforum, which is a group, an Afrikaans group in South Africa,

01:02:45.640 that is trying to advocate for, um, the minority there that are being persecuted. And there are a couple

01:02:51.000 of groups that are actually pushing against this sort of thing. And I want to draw people's attention

01:02:54.680 to them because I think they're doing great work. This documentary was excellent. They were pointing

01:02:58.520 out the laws that discriminate against them. They're looking at the data. It was very factual,

01:03:02.600 very, um, data-based, very worth watching. And they're doing some great work. Um, it was presented

01:03:10.040 by this gentleman here. Um, and he's got a quote here from this documentary under ANC rule,

01:03:16.360 the South African sections of the media have long and unfortunate history of targeting citizens who

01:03:21.640 speak out against race-based politics or violent crime, with some commentators seeing their role

01:03:26.600 in such situations more as regime attack dogs rather than watchdogs against the abuse of power,

01:03:31.960 which is very much true, I think. And they've lamented the fact that the media in South Africa

01:03:37.800 has basically been trying to, uh, say that they're white supremacist or, um, they're bigoted and

01:03:44.520 extremists and should be ignored. And they're using things like screenshots of a headline,

01:03:49.320 opinion pieces, political cartoons, uh, their opinion and the word of ANC officials and just

01:03:56.680 calling it in food. Trust me. And just calling it a racist term for a, for a black guy. I thought

01:04:02.360 dude was supposed to be a white man's term. Is it? I heard that before. Yeah. Brother is,

01:04:07.240 uh, you know, the black man, dude is the white man. Okay, fair enough. Aren't they being racist?

01:04:10.280 Should that not be banned? It might be a bit too controversial, eh? But the point being is...

01:04:16.360 ANC mobs will be after me next. I wouldn't be surprised. 1.00

01:04:19.640 To add to the list. But, um, yeah, these are the sorts of things that are being used to rebut

01:04:24.760 the arguments. There aren't really any real rebuttals because there is clear evidence in the law that

01:04:30.600 there is this discrimination. And they tried to challenge this in a court and the court said that

01:04:37.480 actually it's a legitimate political expression and that it, it should stay. And they tried to

01:04:42.040 appeal this and, uh, I'm not sure if it actually stuck. And they've been pointing out that the

01:04:46.920 constitution, which, um, has Lee vowed not to have racial discrimination, no longer protects

01:04:53.240 everyone in the country because of course the chants such as kill the boar, which is calling for 0.91

01:04:57.720 the murder of Afrikaners. That's obvious. That's explicitly what it's saying. Um, the constitutional 1.00

01:05:03.160 court has shown total disrespect, as he says, for those people basically. And they're trying to

01:05:09.640 fight it, which is, um, a very commendable action and it's amazing that they can stay so calm and

01:05:15.960 collected and reasoned in such a difficult situation. And, um, of course, Ramaphosa was silent about this

01:05:25.560 because he secretly approves, but doesn't want the negative PR of saying so. And then, oh,

01:05:35.000 where's this article gone? There was an article here, um, Samson, if you could pull that up,

01:05:40.360 where it's, it's talking about how South Africa and the Cape more generally is an invisible choke point.

01:05:46.040 Uh, and this was, um, done by Robert Dugan, I think, um, who's involved in some of these groups.

01:05:53.080 And basically this is a shorter version of what's being handed out to lots of Western politicians.

01:05:58.120 And it points out that there's actually a strategic advantage of having control

01:06:01.640 of this passageway, um, because the passage around the Cape is actually not narrower than you think

01:06:06.920 because of the difficult waters. And so shipping has to come very close to South Africa. And what

01:06:12.680 I think is a very good, uh, political reason for pushing this argument is that the US or Britain might

01:06:18.840 have a stake in South Africa if they see, okay, well, this benefits trade and shipping and therefore

01:06:24.200 we want to be more invested. Um, okay. Um, I don't know why that's not coming up. Never mind. Um, but

01:06:33.320 yes, um, the article's called the invisible choke point if you want to look for it. Um, but yes, I think

01:06:38.680 that, ah, there we go. That's weird. Um, I had the wrong, uh, thing. That was my fault, Samson.

01:06:44.760 Um, so yes, um, it seems like a good way of getting people invested in South African politics

01:06:52.200 saying, listen, you'll have an advantage here because there's an excellent, um, image here of shipping.

01:06:58.040 Uh, here we go. You can see a heat map and most ships come within the coast and within the sort of

01:07:05.960 waters of South Africa. And if you want to preserve the shipping and say prevent the Chinese or the Russians,

01:07:11.320 um, who the ANC are sympathetic towards from accessing this valuable shipping lane,

01:07:16.840 maybe you want a stake in this area, which is clever politics in my opinion and is, is a good way of

01:07:23.320 saying actually there is a good reason to be involved in South Africa. Come and help us and

01:07:28.200 you'll get something in return, which is a good way of looking at it. But yes, this is another movement.

01:07:34.120 This basically started off as a trade union and now they run as a sort of parallel government.

01:07:38.440 They build schools, universities and have private security and they rely on community donations to

01:07:44.520 keep, uh, basically keep these Afrikaans communities safe and not, uh, under the ire of the ANC

01:07:54.920 and their supporters and the EFF. And there's also one final one that I want to draw attention to,

01:08:01.480 which is the SAAI, um, which is, uh, a network that supports farmers both in South Africa and Zimbabwe.

01:08:09.560 Um, and so I think they operate. I really don't think there was any white farmers left in Zimbabwe.

01:08:14.600 I thought they kind of, the pogrom was so strong that if you've got to be incredibly strong and

01:08:19.560 brave to want to stay there in that nation. I think there must be, um, I've not looked into it in

01:08:26.520 great detail, but I know of the fact that there is at least a small portion of people that are still

01:08:30.920 there after all of that. After all of that, you know, which is amazing. Serious lunacy going on in

01:08:36.040 that country. But my point being that whilst the government of South Africa pushes back against

01:08:42.040 Trump, there's also people, the Afrikaners, pushing back against the ANC and, you know, making

01:08:47.960 these documentaries, highlighting the points that Trump is making. And I think that they have a very,

01:08:53.240 very valid claim here to be persecuted. You can see it in the law. You can see it in how they're

01:08:59.160 treated in society. You can see it in the fact that their livelihoods can be destroyed for no

01:09:04.680 reason at all other than a government official wants it to be so. And I think it's one of those

01:09:08.920 things that is a rather overlooked tragedy and something that is entirely preventable. It's

01:09:14.600 entirely created by the South African government and it need not be this way because if they do what

01:09:21.240 they intend to do and take the land from these white farmers, what they're going to do is create 1.00

01:09:26.360 another Zimbabwe situation where lots of people starve. They struggle to even have electricity or

01:09:33.160 running water now. The infrastructure has gone downhill since the end of apartheid, basically.

01:09:39.320 You know, they had more electricity hours and clean water then than they do now because people

01:09:45.640 loot the infrastructure. And of course, the massive impact of this would be that if South Africa goes

01:09:51.880 as a into a failed state scenario, it provides a lot of jobs and economic activity for surrounding

01:09:57.960 countries in Namibia going up across. If that collapses, then once again, we'll see a migration crisis.

01:10:04.040 And we already know that one of the central cause of the migration crisis is coming up through

01:10:08.840 Central Africa, which are starting to bring more and more people up through the Western

01:10:14.200 Mediterranean route up through Libya who are all subject to seriously nastier arms of the people 1.00

01:10:21.000 smuggling gangs. These people are really capturing them and using them as slaves first before allowing

01:10:27.080 them to get onto the boats to come over to ourselves. Well, the Libyans have open slave markets. 1.00

01:10:32.520 They're not very shy about it. And it's just set to create a wave of human tragedy in which

01:10:39.000 no one benefits from. Okay, we've got a few comments here. Oh, blimey, we've got a few,

01:10:44.920 actually. And before we go to the video comments, where's my mouse? I can't see it.

01:10:52.120 Do you want to take this one? If you can just, I got it now. Oh, you're the hands of power there.

01:10:58.840 Apparently not. Hands of incompetence. That's a random name says, all of these anti-white

01:11:06.760 male initiatives, laws remind me of the Omni-Man quote, look what they need to mimic a fraction 0.56

01:11:13.640 of our power. That's a very positive way of looking at it. Yes. They hate us because they

01:11:20.040 ain't us, as some might say. That's a random name. Slight correction, Josh. That Algerian 0.95

01:11:25.720 teen in France was shot because he didn't stop his car and then tried to run over the police

01:11:30.440 officer. Okay, fair enough. I imagined it was something like that. I was just trying to be

01:11:37.480 brief because I was aware my segment was going on for a long time.

01:11:40.840 Goofball supremacist says, good morning from foggy coastal Maine, US. Wait, if the Stelios is here,

01:11:47.480 who will bully Harry during the show? Maybe Harry's sleeping now.

01:11:52.840 Bit of an inside joke there. I think one time- I can't see you, Stelios, as being a bully in

01:11:57.400 any way at all. You've got this mild manner. Just for some reason, a segment of the audience

01:12:03.480 thinks that there's a huge rivalry between Harry and myself. Ah, I see. It's like wrestling,

01:12:08.600 you see. If we make the audience believe that we all hate each other, then it's more investing.

01:12:14.120 We don't actually at all. It's funny, you know, you get your ouzo, you get your plates,

01:12:17.880 who can be the best plate smasher? There you go. You win the ouzo for dinner. Yeah,

01:12:21.320 yeah, that's good. We got any video comments, Samson? None for today. Okay, well, written

01:12:27.960 comments it is then. So, you right to read some of yours? Yes, yes, of course. Give me a minute.

01:12:34.760 Okay, right. So, comments. Roman observer. Judges in the West have largely become a force

01:12:45.160 of tyranny. Yeah, I can't disagree with this. I agree with this. It's not often that you hear from

01:12:51.240 the judiciary that they've done anything that sounds sensible. I think the only exception could be,

01:12:57.080 perhaps, the Supreme Court in the United States. I like seeing Clarence Thomas just dismissing

01:13:03.400 proposals in one word. It's like, ridiculous or no? 0.94

01:13:09.960 Can you imagine that ever happening in a Western European country, turning around ridiculous or no? 0.97

01:13:14.760 I want it to happen.

01:13:16.760 You know, it would be good fun, to be honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:19.080 You know, they're actually a bit more entertaining. You might then have someone turning around and,

01:13:23.560 you know, get them on the island, get them into the jungle. Maybe if the Supreme Court in Britain

01:13:28.280 were like that, I'd be a bit more entertaining of it. But of course, it's a Blairite creation,

01:13:32.120 isn't it? Metal Dave says, listening to Keir Starmer speak has the same effect on me as the

01:13:37.400 Dementors in Harry Potter. Just sucks the joy right out of me. It sounds like an unimpressive

01:13:43.640 office manager trying to justify his position. No personality, no charisma, and no love for this

01:13:49.560 country, or anyone else's for that matter. I have had much more inspiring bosses than this. It's

01:13:56.280 it's shameful. He's one man to... And then he cuts off for some reason.

01:14:01.080 Yeah, basically, okay. Complete dimension levels.

01:14:07.240 So if you did make an audition for The Office, there's no way they'd even pass. They'd turn around

01:14:12.040 and say, you're too boring. Can't play the acoustic guitar either. It would never fit the role of

01:14:15.720 David Brent, would he? No. He doesn't listen to music. He doesn't have a... Well, he does have

01:14:19.400 a favorite TV show now. It's adolescence. But before then, I don't think he's said that.

01:14:25.720 The only thing he's ever watched in the last 10 years.

01:14:28.200 Apart from reruns of Blair the movie. Look at him on number 10.

01:14:33.400 I'd be surprised if he could even see color, to be honest.

01:14:35.720 Nota Fed says, this is what people mean when they say there's no voting our way out of this.

01:14:41.480 An incredible threat to the status quo will simply be taken out before they can get anywhere.

01:14:46.600 Meaning democracy is essentially an impotent political tool. I mean, I'm not that pessimistic.

01:14:53.000 Because in the US, it worked.

01:14:55.160 It did.

01:14:55.560 For instance. That's one of the reasons.

01:14:57.080 It did.

01:14:58.360 Yeah, I'm not that pessimistic. But I think that

01:15:01.320 civil society needs to wake up and reclaim its culture.

01:15:05.480 I think people are just too comfortable to realize that their life can forever be changed

01:15:11.320 by the political system. And that, you know, going to your job and going home and watching Netflix

01:15:16.840 every night, although it might be comforting, isn't necessarily a socially responsible thing to do.

01:15:22.440 Well, as they see more and more of their family and friends either not being able to get jobs,

01:15:26.200 not being forced out of work, having the contrary arguments about discrimination

01:15:32.360 that you saw against others now being applied to themselves, they become more and more

01:15:36.680 waking up to this. And this is what I'm seeing in Middle England.

01:15:39.560 Middle England ignored immigration for the last 20 years. Let's be frank about it.

01:15:42.760 Here in the UK or across Europe, I'm all right. I'm coming to my lovely Winchester town.

01:15:46.600 I'm going off to Salisbury. It's all white. It's all lovely. I've got my nice big house. 0.91

01:15:50.920 It's comfortable. And now they're beginning to see that impacting onto those towns as well.

01:15:55.080 And they're suddenly going, hang on, add that to the economic damage that they're getting.

01:15:59.720 And what do they have? They start saying, well, where's the problem coming from?

01:16:03.640 But it's too late for many communities up and down the country. And I have a fear,

01:16:08.280 and echoing the comments of the writer there who sent in that note about our political ability to

01:16:15.240 change it in Europe. The US has a totally different and open constitution to be able to vote. It is one

01:16:21.640 side or the other. And you've got states like many countries. But first past the post is incredibly

01:16:27.320 difficult for us to achieve it, any substantive change, unless you get a uniting of the rights

01:16:33.400 here. And then we could. And if we did so, I think that's a bulwark against Europe. But as we saw there

01:16:39.080 with Marie Le Pen, the AFD, Gert Wilders, Italy with Maloney and what's happening in Romania, the

01:16:45.640 establishment have actually got a creation of political armory to prevent other parties from getting in.

01:16:53.080 And that, I think, is an ultimate danger. Is that what causes a revolution over there?

01:16:58.520 Will there be a revolution in Europe to make this finally work?

01:17:02.360 Maybe. Oh, sorry. It's interesting you mentioned first past the post, because I've studied all of

01:17:07.720 the different electoral systems, and I have my preferences. But first past the post is unique

01:17:13.720 in that it boosts the main two parties, doesn't it? And so it creates this revolving door syndrome of

01:17:23.880 Labour, Tory, Labour, Tory, Labour, Tory, that we've seen for the vast majority of our lives.

01:17:32.120 I know there was a Lib Dem coalition briefly, but they didn't really have any proper power.

01:17:36.360 And it was just a brief blip in a trend.

01:17:39.800 A hundred odd years of exactly the same sort of cultural, political ideology.

01:17:45.560 And whereas first past the post, if you're successful and winning, it's incredibly useful

01:17:49.640 to be able to implement change, allegedly. We now know, in this country, that the powers of

01:17:56.920 quangos and the powers of the civil service even nullify that. So it's not surprising 0.98

01:18:05.480 that younger people are saying, there's nothing left for me. And older people are saying,

01:18:09.400 I'll retire and get out of the system. Hopefully I'll just be able to enjoy my last 20 years without

01:18:13.640 anybody hurting me in any particular way. I just feel that this is, in some ways,

01:18:19.640 what they really want. They don't want us engaging in the politics. They want us to understand

01:18:24.120 that we have no power and just get away with it. That's why I think a culture of civic

01:18:29.160 engagement is important and people will need to stop watching Netflix, as you said before,

01:18:34.280 and start applying pressure to the governments. I think also the government needs to realize that

01:18:41.560 creating entire generations of disaffected people isn't the best thing for their own long-term 0.79

01:18:47.240 self-interest. Even if you're a greedy, corrupt politician, if there are lots of desperate people in

01:18:53.320 your society, you'll get a lot more people like that Luigi Mangione guy who killed the United 0.92

01:19:00.280 Healthcare CEO. He was willing to ruin his life because he felt it, and the life of the man he

01:19:06.680 killed, because he felt like he no longer had a stake in society. And you're going to get more and more

01:19:12.040 of that. And I don't see how that benefits politicians or the people involved.

01:19:17.480 Being desperate, having nothing to look forward to, having no hope, feeling that there is no one

01:19:23.720 in this country that cares for you, and there is no opportunity for change, is a recipe for ultimate

01:19:29.000 disaster on a personal level and a national level. And we should be fighting this. And that's why,

01:19:34.760 you know, shows like this are incredibly important. Be able to let people know that there are those who

01:19:39.560 actually understand them, and they're trying in this particular form to engage them, get them excited and

01:19:45.160 energized. Jordi Swartzman. Of course, child Hamas Tama is angry. The fools weren't supposed to say it

01:19:53.080 out loud. Thomas Howell. All I see with this sentencing racism is that Wojak wearing a sad mask but 1.00

01:20:01.240 grinning from ear to ear underneath. That's really, really good. Garlic Goblin says the blindfold has been

01:20:09.160 torn from Lady Justice's eyes. It's as simple as that. Hard to describe. And Lord Nerova says,

01:20:17.000 I'm becoming more sympathetic to young people who want to live Britain. Of course, we will win and

01:20:21.720 England will be saved. But there are other considerations. What if you have a young family

01:20:26.520 and you get sent away for two years over a tweet? Nobody should have to live like this.

01:20:30.680 Okay, we've got some comments for your segment here. I'll be happy to read them for you.

01:20:39.000 John H says, I wonder what the French army officers will do. Democracy is dead or dying. Yes,

01:20:45.720 that's a good point. The French are known for their dissatisfaction when the government isn't doing

01:20:53.320 their thing. I certainly know about the French Revolution. Is it the 78th French Republic?

01:21:01.640 I've lost track. I think they've lost track as well.

01:21:07.000 It'll be interesting to see where the military go on this, if the people start to rise up again.

01:21:13.800 But is there going to be enough of a rising up? It was interesting to see how the farmers came out

01:21:18.680 over the last couple of years. And so many of them started to support Marie Le Pen. And that

01:21:23.800 the socialists then had to try and jump on it to say, look, we're with you as well.

01:21:28.040 I mean, in ancient times, all you really needed was the military and the farms. And you've got

01:21:34.280 yourself all the base of power you need. That sounds like I'm trying to suggest something. I'm not.

01:21:41.560 It's just an observation. Okay.

01:21:43.080 But that political document you said of how to plan a revolution in France, that's not real then.

01:21:48.680 I forgot what I was going to say now. Sorry, that's really, really, really unfair of me.

01:21:55.640 I'm trying not to incriminate myself.

01:21:57.640 And just for the MI5 and MI6, that is a made up document, just in case you're watching us.

01:22:02.280 It's not real. We're pretending it's a joke. It's humor.

01:22:06.040 But also the yellow vests are going to cause some chaos, I'm sure.

01:22:08.520 But Eloise says, England slash the UK is on the same trajectory and the same conversations,

01:22:16.280 the same issues, the same claims, the same plays in politics. I've seen it all happen before as a child,

01:22:21.960 along with the crime spikes, more ethnic unrest and blaming others, fracturing cohesion, so less

01:22:27.560 ability to group build, work together and keep employment high and a functional society. Eloise is 0.99

01:22:33.080 South African, I believe. And so what she's saying is basically that she's seeing all the parallels.

01:22:37.880 And in fact, many of the South African commentators that I've spoke to as well have been saying the

01:22:42.760 same thing, that they're worried about us because we're people that they're hoping we'll be able

01:22:48.040 to help them. And we're making the same mistakes that the ANC are doing, but we're imposing it upon

01:22:54.360 ourselves. Yeah. Absolutely spot on there. Jamie Wright says, something to keep in mind is that

01:23:02.760 even though white South Africans own most of the farms in the country, we don't own most of the

01:23:07.240 arable land. If the black population wanted to, they could start setting up farms of their own. 0.98

01:23:13.080 That is also true. And also a lot of the land in South Africa, as I understand it, it might not be fit

01:23:20.680 for crops necessarily, but you can still have grazing animals, things like that sort of thing that's

01:23:25.640 common throughout Africa. And so it is possible to have successful farms, but I think that there's

01:23:33.400 so much ethnic resentment in South Africa that they're not necessarily wanting to learn the ways

01:23:39.240 of the European farmer. And let's not forget that a lot of Africa isn't that many generations 0.68

01:23:45.560 removed from a more traditional lifestyle. And so European ways of farming that we've created over

01:23:53.560 thousands and thousands of years are pretty foreign to them and they don't necessarily understand them.

01:23:58.840 And because of this ethnic resentment, they're not really going out of their way to learn from them.

01:24:04.120 And it's one of those things that was an empire of dust when there was a, the Chinese were in the 1.00

01:24:09.800 Congo and there's an interesting scene of a Chinese man dressing down a Congolese man saying,

01:24:17.000 listen, the white man was here and he built you all of these wonderful things, trains, you know,

01:24:20.680 you had all of these things even before we had them in China and you've let them go to ruin. 0.82

01:24:25.160 You're not grateful for them. You've not understood them. You've just taken them for granted.

01:24:30.120 And you could see he's genuinely annoyed, probably because he's got the job of having to get them to

01:24:35.560 work. But it's still highlighting the same point that I think I was getting at that they took a

01:24:44.040 lot of this for granted and they presumed that they could get away with persecuting the European man

01:24:48.920 when actually a lot of the things that were brought to South Africa, these, these aspects of

01:24:54.760 civilization, if you will, you know, access to running water, electricity, having a, you know,

01:25:00.520 a functioning political system that isn't corrupt. These are all things that we had to introduce

01:25:05.000 to Africa. And by marginalizing, if I want of a better word, because it's a bit tainted these 0.99

01:25:11.400 days, the white minority, they're also rejecting all of these things because knowledge doesn't exist 0.86

01:25:18.280 in a vacuum. You've got to have the people that understand it, obviously. It almost seems silly

01:25:23.320 to point it out, but it's something that I think is getting missed. Patrick Reed says,

01:25:29.480 I'm really sorry to hear about what's happening to Tim's family. He strikes me as the kind of man who

01:25:34.360 doesn't like to ask for help. His friends should organize something now so that they know there

01:25:42.040 are people around the world who will be there for them in their hour of need. Just knowing that we

01:25:46.760 are here will be helpful. And that's a really nice sentiment. So thank you for saying so. And it's,

01:25:51.320 it's true. And I'm glad you mentioned that at the start of the podcast, Alios.

01:25:55.880 And best of luck again to Tim and his wife.

01:25:59.560 Johan Schett, RE South Africa. The anti-Indian riots were due to the Gupta family involvement

01:26:09.000 with Jacob Zuma and the ANC. State capture was a popular phrase in those days. I actually wrote

01:26:14.600 an article back in 2021 explaining that whole debacle because we were all seeing videos of

01:26:21.640 people getting shot and warehouses being burnt to the ground and no one really knew what was going

01:26:26.200 on. And it was basically a clash between Ramaphosa and Jacob Zuma, who was a former ANC president,

01:26:34.200 and then the current ANC president. It was a political thing. And then Zuma went,

01:26:38.920 was imprisoned on corruption charges because he had massive stacks of cash in his house, which

01:26:45.400 in my mind, tends to indicate that you might be corrupt. And so it's probably true. But in a lot

01:26:51.640 of South African politics, everyone is corrupt. So it's one of those things where it's selectively

01:26:56.040 enforced. And he went on to set up his own party, M.K. We Seesway. I'm probably massively butchering that.

01:27:02.920 But they stole loads of votes from the ANC. The ANC then had less than a majority of votes in the last

01:27:09.960 election. And now they introduced this bill. So by this fallout between those two presidents,

01:27:15.320 it's unintentionally drawn the ire of Trump and potentially the collapse of their entire

01:27:20.600 government if things carry on the way they are. So the final comment we'll read is from Baron

01:27:26.040 Von Warhawk. A while ago, I got into an argument with my friend about a subject matter that deeply

01:27:30.840 disturbed me. The topic arose about Elon Musk criticizing South Africa. And I brought up the

01:27:35.720 attacks on the Boers there. They outright dismissed it. And when I showed them the evidence of

01:27:39.880 children being burnt alive and women being raped, one of them said that the white South Africans 0.92

01:27:46.360 should have expected some revenge action. When I pointed out that the native Africans promised 1.00

01:27:54.520 no retaliation and that they would let bygones be bygones to build a rainbow nation, he responded

01:28:02.600 that it was white's fault for believing it and that it should have moved as soon as apartheid ended.

01:28:08.200 When I pointed out that these people have been there for almost 400 years, they're being targeted by

01:28:12.600 Bantus who arrived recently. I think the Bantu expansion was in about 500 BC to Central and South

01:28:22.360 Africa because they came out of Nigeria and Ghana and places like that. So they're not necessarily

01:28:28.760 the natives of the natives of the land. And there are still natives. You know, you look at the Congo, 0.79

01:28:33.000 the natives in the land, a lot of them are pygmies. And a lot of the Congos there are Bantus that came 1.00

01:28:40.040 there in the Bantu expansion. So if you understand your history, you know that people's claims quite

01:28:47.000 often don't hold as much water as you might imagine. But I think that the best avenue of attack here is that

01:28:54.360 by attacking the white minority in South Africa, they're harming themselves. You know, they need 0.99

01:29:00.040 food, they need infrastructure, they need these things just as much as anyone else. And by attacking

01:29:05.320 the people that disproportionately contribute to that, they aren't really helping anyone. They're

01:29:10.600 not helping the white farmers, they're not helping themselves. And they're not helping themselves on the 1.00

01:29:14.840 international stage because it looks awful if you genocide people, which shouldn't be a surprise to 0.97

01:29:21.800 anyone. And on that lovely positive note, it's time to end the show. Thank you very much for coming

01:29:29.080 on again. My pleasure. And thank you very much, everyone, for watching. Hope you have a nice day,

01:29:33.400 despite the bad news. Make sure to tune in same time tomorrow. And goodbye. Goodbye.

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