The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1134

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters episode 1134 on today wednesday the

00:00:06.180 second of april i'm your host harry joined today by carl hello and dan hi chaps who i believe has

00:00:12.840 mostly recovered oh yeah i'm fine now oh he's fine now that's great we'll get you reading some

00:00:17.420 shakespeare later in that case you should be able to handle it this time maybe don quixote

00:00:21.800 i was actually ill and you and josh screwed it up in fact did you see they made a clip of it as

00:00:25.980 well well i didn't screw it up i did amazing well there's actually giga chad pictures underneath me

00:00:30.500 while i was reading it they've done a tiktok of yes screwing it up as well with vine boom edits as well

00:00:35.860 yeah but josh had no excuse you were at least ill josh just can't talk josh can't read there's a

00:00:41.100 reason we don't see him reading around the office anyway where does this come from i've never seen

00:00:47.040 josh reading a book if i'm honest and i'm sure he does have you no yeah i know interesting interesting

00:00:54.580 take that information and do with it as you will so today we're going to be discussing the

00:00:58.820 establishment obsession with adolescence the um two-tier justice system being smacked down by

00:01:06.820 keir starmer of all people it's not nearly as cool as that oh okay narrowly avoided it okay all right

00:01:13.480 keir starmer tiptoeing around the establishment of a two-tier justice system we need to be a bit more

00:01:18.640 subtle about this folks um yeah and uh then dan wants to do the ambitious task of reorganizing

00:01:26.260 the entire british parliamentary and governmental system so that it actually works well that's not

00:01:32.000 the ambitious stand we have a 2 230 cutoff point for the ambitious bit is not redesigning it the

00:01:38.280 ambitious bit is getting the point across in 20 minutes i'm going to give it a try i mean

00:01:42.960 maybe we should cut the preamble and actually get going on the second i've got half a child i don't 0.97

00:01:48.820 know about that i'm trying to sabotage you already okay and without any further ado in that case we

00:01:53.680 should probably get into it so you may have heard of this little television program being produced by

00:01:59.580 netflix with no influence from the uk government whatsoever called adolescence it's a little indie

00:02:04.900 flick starring a bunch of no-name actors that nobody's ever heard of have you heard of it

00:02:09.920 only from the government yeah i know right it's funny that isn't it haven't yet been mandated to

00:02:15.480 watch it this show about incels incel murderers is being shown in secondary schools or about to be

00:02:22.480 shown in secondary schools across the country alongside a load of ngo organized class plans

00:02:30.320 they'll be going with it it's about a 13 year old isn't it it's about a 13 year old white 13 year old

00:02:36.500 murdering a girl that he was going to school with because he'd watched too much andrew tate

00:02:41.960 and because he's an incel and because he's an incel at 13 yes well i don't know about you boys but

00:02:47.100 were you crushing the punani at 13 no i was also an incel at 13 i think most people are supposed to be

00:02:53.220 incels at 13 years old right fair enough um so it's a very interesting message but obviously what's

00:02:58.700 happening is manufactured consent uh the government has been propping up this television show which is a

00:03:06.180 fictional story about incel killers and then forcing everybody to watch it so that they can

00:03:11.420 pick up the real life messages that you're supposed to get from this fictional story and then we're

00:03:17.060 going to make sure to add in lots of nice legislation against online activity so that we can prevent

00:03:22.720 all of these incel killers who are infesting our cities that's the big problem that i'm aware of 1.00

00:03:28.140 in london manchester birmingham it's just the constant problem is the incel the incel killers or perhaps

00:03:35.820 it's the ninjas i've not quite figured it out yet but before i go into the details you should go on

00:03:41.240 the website on the merch site and buy a shirt this is 100 percent incel protection you will not be able

00:03:49.320 to be stabbed by incels whilst wearing these shirts that's not a legal guarantee that's not a promise

00:03:55.560 but i'm saying it anyway i think you should lean into you totally get laid you want to make this like 0.98

00:04:02.780 the links adverts you'll be an anti incel wearing this you'll have to beat these women away from you 0.96

00:04:09.500 so that you can try and protect your precious precious virginity so spend some money on this

00:04:15.840 please and thank you anyway so uh again the big thing is that it's the incel show uh for uh john

00:04:24.080 actually shared this little clip that i think is quite funny where uh they actually just mention

00:04:29.260 andrew tate by name let's take a look here i don't know what that is what is it it's the um 0.99

00:04:34.680 involuntary celibate stuff it's the andrew tate shite oh fucking hell and and andrew tate's notorious 0.98

00:04:45.620 incel that's what he's being charged for in romania isn't it not that i'm a fan of being a virgin 0.99

00:04:52.640 yeah andrew tate and they're in they're in parliament trying to get him extradited to the

00:04:58.100 britain andrew tate extradited for being a virgin i love that clip because it's just

00:05:02.580 so naked what this whole show is all about oh yeah yeah it's that there are people saying things

00:05:08.480 online that young men like yes we do not like that young men like this therefore we're going to 0.98

00:05:15.260 make a television show where the man talking about this is a big stinky uh murder face man 0.60

00:05:21.480 even though again i'm not a fan of andrew tate i don't like him i think all of the like lover boy 0.94

00:05:26.960 scam stuff and cam girl sites that he ran back in the day are completely scummy beyond redemption

00:05:33.240 but this is not what we should be condemning him for and this is just being used to again

00:05:38.700 condemning him for being a virgin

00:05:40.060 i know it's it's very strange tactic but you know we'll see how it pans out and this has been enough

00:05:49.640 because of course the incel rage that watching people like andrew tate or um perhaps even a

00:05:55.800 little known old 2014 gamergate youtuber i've heard of sargon of akkad never heard of him either uh but

00:06:03.200 watching these kinds of men makes young boys just furious with women and want to go out and murder

00:06:08.700 them can i can i just interject a second because what one thing that really frustrates me about this

00:06:13.000 kind of discourse and the way it's like it's incel it's andrew tate and it's like okay they're not the

00:06:17.320 same thing in fact they're probably diametrically opposed actually but the the the issue isn't any

00:06:23.540 one thing that they're pointing out the issue is there are lots of young men in society who have

00:06:29.260 interests right who have personal interests who have a desire what they want out of the world now

00:06:35.020 to society sounds a bit sexist to me yeah it does uh and now it is right it's like what would young 0.54

00:06:41.880 men want and the issue is that all of society is geared to satisfying the interests of young women

00:06:48.080 hold the the purported interests that feminists would say that young women have right now so what

00:06:53.960 this does is it means that our society is entirely geared towards essentially the left and anything

00:06:59.100 that would be towards geared towards young men is just considered the right and so if you've got like

00:07:03.780 the incredibly left-wing blairite establishment who are like no i we just want young men to sit on the 0.89

00:07:08.480 plantation do exactly as they're told and then essentially die of old age without ever bothering 0.87

00:07:13.080 us well yeah that's great and so any incel andrew tate crap or whatever she called it like that's

00:07:19.400 just uh essentially a kind of broad representation of just oh men aren't happy with the current

00:07:24.380 circumstances well we need to just stamp them down we need to get them back on back on the plantation

00:07:28.920 back in their box how dare they say we deserve something out of this society it's like yep that's

00:07:35.020 yeah i i and so from this perspective i can kind of see why they're panicking about incels or

00:07:40.880 andrew tate or adolescents well funnily enough the whole thing reminds me of why some people call

00:07:47.100 this a gynocracy that we're living under right because what this is is waking up next to your 0.98

00:07:53.180 missus in the morning and she's had a bad dream where you did something wrong and you need to apologize

00:07:59.840 for what you in that dream did i've made up a fictional scenario in which you were radicalized

00:08:05.200 by andrew tate and murdered me how dare you do that you need to shape up your behavior right now

00:08:11.960 young man and we've all been through something like that you've woken up she's in a bad mood with

00:08:16.500 you you're like what's wrong it's like dream my wife just calls him dream carl yeah dream carl did

00:08:22.860 this and i'm like i'm sorry darling i've got to go to work you know i've no excuse for what dream

00:08:28.320 he did last night i'm sorry i can't explain it but is that not what we're seeing right here

00:08:33.780 because it clearly is and of course keir starmer being a spiritual woman has decided that he's going

00:08:39.600 to take the ball and run with this possibly because this is all just being used to justify

00:08:44.380 legislation the government was going to pass anyway so uh on the uh the 31st of march which was

00:08:50.220 monday keir starmer hosted an adolescence which they've spelt wrong here roundtable with the

00:08:55.780 creators of the netflix drama a group of charities one of them being a charity called tender and young

00:09:02.640 people okay in this he had this amazing slip up where he accidentally called it a documentary

00:09:09.460 work together and what can we do as a society to stop and prevent young boys being dragged into this

00:09:17.040 whirlpool of hatred and misogyny um and it is young boys predominantly in this particular instance

00:09:24.420 but also how can we protect young girls that are at risk because obviously that's a very strong feature

00:09:29.360 of the um you know the documentary the the drama um um and um that again as i say my boy is 16 my girl

00:09:40.520 is 14 so i'm seeing this very much through both sets of eyes and that's why i think it hits hard

00:09:46.820 um he's such a compelling public speaker isn't he but also what a horrible thing to do yeah so i think

00:09:52.000 my 16 year old boy might be an incel killer a bit worried about it uh you know and my daughter

00:09:56.840 might be at risk of being murdered by my incel killer son yeah it's like god keir

00:10:01.760 what a horrible thing to say well yeah basically what you're doing is you're putting kids through

00:10:08.020 young boys especially especially when it comes to this which is netflix saying that they're going

00:10:13.100 to make it available for free across all secondary schools in the uk through into film plus additionally

00:10:19.640 healthy relationships charity tender who will get to will provide guides and resources for teachers

00:10:25.320 parents and carers to help navigate conversations around the series what this is is a struggle session

00:10:30.560 yeah the matriarchal struggle session soviet maoist style struggle session where young boys are

00:10:37.780 being told the same thing that they've been told for decades which is stop being boys yeah you're

00:10:43.660 bad yeah we're afraid of you because boys are just defective girls what you need to learn to do is be 1.00

00:10:49.980 a better girl which will solve the problem of you being an incel yeah tell us because you'll be so

00:10:56.140 much more attractive to women when you become a girl i've not heard that from anyone that's a weirdly

00:11:03.240 that's a questionable line of logic to go down but hey let's see how it pans out it's the only way

00:11:08.840 they know how to process people right it's the only way they know how to deal with oh look girls girls 1.00

00:11:13.720 tend to sit quietly in class and do as they're told and do you know they've got brilliant handwriting

00:11:18.340 they do lots of work boys are rambunctious and disruptive it's like okay well then well that's

00:11:23.120 dangerous to this order it's like okay but you could also instead create something for boys that

00:11:29.200 dealt with their intrinsic name i think they should split them i think they should be girls boys uh

00:11:33.120 girls schools and boys schools absolutely and and whenever that is tried the boys schools they always

00:11:37.940 end up realizing that a happy boy is a tired boy a bit like a happy dog is a tired dog and so they

00:11:43.220 double the amount of physical activity that goes on in the day and they get much better results from

00:11:47.640 they are not the same the actual grades go up but moreover i don't think that women should teach 1.00

00:11:53.100 boys and i don't think men should teach girls either right i think that actually it should be 1.00

00:11:57.420 like it was like in the victorian era or something you know where it's like boy schools with only male

00:12:01.560 teachers girl schools with only female teachers and this will actually produce better results for 0.97

00:12:06.660 everyone involved and in fact it is the sort of unisex modern liberal paradigm that says oh no boys and

00:12:12.060 girls need to be smushed together in the same classroom and taught by women it's like no i don't agree to 1.00

00:12:15.920 this when do we agree i mean that makes that makes a fair amount of sense to me if only because i saw

00:12:19.900 it many times uh when i was growing up in school which is when the boys would have a class that

00:12:25.000 would be mostly boys with a female teacher uh the boys would basically go out of their way to annoy her

00:12:30.280 as much as possible and she wouldn't be able to properly control yeah properly control them she 1.00

00:12:35.260 wouldn't have a way to bite back whereas the male teachers you know they could get on with it and 1.00

00:12:38.980 they could they could hit back if they wanted to there's a natural sort of masculine hierarchy 1.00

00:12:43.140 and the older man at the front of the class you're a 15 year old ultimately it's not going to happen 0.96

00:12:48.740 but in the back of your mind it's like he could just clip me around the bloody head and i'd be you

00:12:52.980 know bursting to tears right and so there's this natural authority that young older men have over

00:12:57.160 younger men on the basis of size right again if we can't admit this and we can't do anything about

00:13:02.560 this then we're going to end up oh well young boys are all evil we've got to stigmatize and that's 0.96

00:13:06.860 the worst part stigmatizing half of the the children in the country you're a potential killer

00:13:11.900 but also telling the other half these guys are probably going to murder you you know watch out 0.98

00:13:16.040 it's like god damn it what are you doing also with the also with the dynamics of a lot of young girls 0.98

00:13:21.640 with a male teacher if he's young enough there's a weird thing that happened in my school that happens 0.97

00:13:26.220 everywhere where they all start fancying him that's not a good dynamic for learning either if i'm honest

00:13:31.820 and also it's like it's not a good dynamic for just to have in the classroom do you really want

00:13:35.780 like this kind of atmosphere in your classroom probably not yes it's healthy it's weird uh but

00:13:42.540 so as part of this these classes where they're going to be shown adolescence uh will form part

00:13:47.680 of the government's new relationships health and sex education guidance which will be introduced

00:13:52.840 before the end of the academic year though labor's classroom guidance is still being developed it's

00:13:57.920 understood to include content to support healthy relationships because your school and your

00:14:03.580 government are the first people that you want doing that for you to enable schools to tackle

00:14:08.100 harmful behavior and ensure that misogyny is stamped out and not allowed to proliferate is this going to

00:14:14.460 be basically telling the young white boys don't watch andrew tate or is it going to be telling all the

00:14:19.520 young pakistani boys by the way when you're a few years older all of these young girls are off limits 1.00

00:14:24.980 don't don't get all gang rapey i doubt it's going to be the latter yeah it's definitely it's not going to be

00:14:31.280 that last one although i would be interested to be a fly in the wall in inner city schools in london

00:14:38.000 where they'll be showing this i doubt they will and they probably won't even bother well if they do

00:14:43.980 yeah i'd like again to be a fly on the wall just to see how they all react they'll be cheering on the

00:14:49.940 young 13 year old killer show the coffee but the idea that this is going to work is absolutely

00:14:56.520 preposterous and it shows to everyone that these people have absolutely no idea how to handle the

00:15:01.700 well listen to this this is secondary school but as part of these new guidelines from as early as

00:15:06.380 primary school children boys will be encouraged to express and understand boundaries handle

00:15:14.400 disappointment and pay attention to the needs and preferences of oneself and others

00:15:19.440 with content girls yeah yeah with content modified for older children to reflect the

00:15:23.720 real life complexities of romantic and sexual relationships so yeah teaching them to be girls 1.00

00:15:29.100 teaching them to be sensitive but not in the way that young boys are sensitive right yeah like if

00:15:36.120 if you treat if you respect young boys for what they are and treat them as you were saying as if they

00:15:41.640 are men or men in waiting then they will respect you for it right and that means you know getting

00:15:47.260 them to do things that are much more physically active a lot of times things are competitive right

00:15:51.620 you can get young men to buy into something if you make it competitive and then they're like oh 0.98

00:15:55.380 brilliant you know we're going to win this you're going to lose this because you suck right that's 0.93

00:15:58.840 what they're going to be like you can't do that with girls because that's what i was like at school 0.93

00:16:01.180 and that's what i'm you know that's all of my friends were like at school you can't do that with

00:16:05.060 girls you tell them right we're going to sit you down we're going to talk about your feelings 0.60

00:16:08.220 you're going to get them taking taking the piss out of whatever it is you're doing because they won't

00:16:14.200 respect it because it won't speak to them in any way shape or form they won't speak to their 0.91

00:16:17.660 their preferences you get called gay a lot yeah exactly right you're going to get insulted you're

00:16:22.740 going to get them literally winding you up and it'll they will play elaborate pranks on this system

00:16:28.720 well that's why i'm so enthusiastic about them showing this in schools because i think it is going

00:16:31.840 to be funny yeah also that bit on your list one of the things on the list was they're going to be

00:16:37.000 teaching young boys how to handle disappointment right that's that's young men's entire life

00:16:42.860 yeah up until at least your mid-20s yeah it's just it's just disappointment one crushing defeat

00:16:51.700 after another but um of course it's not just the children that need to be propagandized with this

00:16:58.840 as well it's the politicians themselves femi saying honestly any politician who hasn't watched

00:17:05.260 adolescence at this point unless they have the excuse of personal trauma doesn't give an f 0.55

00:17:11.180 about our society i mean i'm against your society i'm 100 against it by the time i'm done it's going

00:17:17.040 to have been destroyed and replaced with something good right i'm against it jesus christ sorry go on

00:17:23.820 this no no that's that's fine well yeah he wants our democracy protected exactly screw your democracy

00:17:28.640 our democracy however i'll just point out he is exactly the type of man they want yes feminized

00:17:36.500 domesticated yes yeah whipped yes absolutely weird an enforcer of it as well yes oh no i'm gonna go

00:17:44.100 and try and whip other men no femi come over can't that bro you know we're not having this bro grow a set 1.00

00:17:49.540 of balls lay down the law and then get back to us yeah all right uh nick ferrari supposed conservative 0.96

00:17:56.640 on lbc decided that he was going to browbeat kemi badenock um about the fact that she'd not watched 0.93

00:18:05.760 it which was apparently a dereliction of her duty as leader of the conservative party nick do you really

00:18:11.560 think that you're melanated enough to be browbeating kemi badenock over anything james o'brien um

00:18:16.760 spokesperson for testosterone same point again to you james uh yep saying it was unthinkable lbc posted three

00:18:24.040 separate clips of james o'brien whining about this he said evil doesn't he he really does face i'm

00:18:32.780 sorry you need i would never recommend this to a normal person but james you're not normal you need

00:18:38.500 trt mate you absolutely need trt replacement there yes if we had your t levels are through the floor

00:18:46.260 your estrogen has spiked if you need to get some trt if we had a proper base society where you did like

00:18:52.800 a year or two of national service can you imagine how james o'brien and femi would have done in the

00:18:56.800 barracks they wouldn't exist there'd be different people do you remember that bit at the beginning of 0.73

00:19:00.720 full metal jacket where the fat one's being beaten with soap because he keeps getting them all in

00:19:05.860 trouble because he's useless but at least the fat one had calves i mean he had legs and quads and 0.83

00:19:10.420 everything have you seen his legs oh i've i've seen his strange morphology his strange shape 0.84

00:19:17.100 yeah again he's just keeping on going with this apparently he must have just spent an entire

00:19:22.240 broadcast whining about it pointing out oh she seems to have believed online racist lives uh lies

00:19:28.520 because in one article to be fair i couldn't find any corroborating uh evidence of the actual show

00:19:34.840 runners pointing to this case but in one of the articles talking about it it they stated that there

00:19:39.880 were two real life cases that inspired it the article linked to one of these supposed cases which was a

00:19:45.740 case of a young black man in wolverhampton i think i think a black teenager killing a black girl

00:19:52.380 there was one in london as well where it was a diverse teenager killing a diverse girl yes uh but 0.97

00:19:57.920 apparently that's a lie according to james o'brien who said that he hadn't actually looked into it

00:20:03.820 but to be fair let's see what i haven't looked into i didn't know that's a lie well of course the

00:20:08.000 online far right incel said it so it has to be a lie uh but in this radio times article the um

00:20:14.760 they ask is adolescence based on a true story and the writer says here that following on from some

00:20:22.180 misinformation online about the basis of the hit netflix series jack thorne has firmly underlined

00:20:27.300 that the series has no basis in any particular case in response to allegations of race swapping

00:20:31.140 characters telling the news agents that there is no part of this i repeat no part of this that's

00:20:39.160 based on a true story not one single part right so this is a moral panic so it was a documentary

00:20:46.320 and kia starmer says it's a documentary when one of the writers explicitly says we made it up and so

00:20:52.540 this has just caused a complete moral panic because what it does is it speaks to the reality that young

00:20:58.340 boys are being essentially demonized in society and they know that that means basically half the

00:21:03.940 half the population in the country has got every reason to just walk off the plantation they're like

00:21:08.400 no i reject all of this i reject the blairite paradigm i reject this kind of oppression i reject

00:21:12.760 being feminized i reject reject matriarchy in its totality and i want an alternative well what's the 0.95

00:21:19.280 obvious alternative to a matriarchy right you can see why they're panicking being like well look you 1.00

00:21:23.760 know who are the what what's the one cohort in britain who might actually overthrow the system oh yeah

00:21:28.920 actually straight white men young straight white men actually who've got every incentive to do so

00:21:33.240 and the i don't know physical energy well and also i don't want i don't want to be even a teeny

00:21:37.440 tiny bit sexist or anything but um it would be the half that actually matters because i think it's

00:21:43.320 greenland or something like that they have this national holiday once a year where women don't do 1.00

00:21:47.480 any work and relatively gets right and everything still happens the train still run the post still

00:21:53.260 gets delivered if if it was the men who checked out i mean how long would this country last i mean

00:21:58.560 the hr department's be fine but apart from that yeah what's the productivity rate of hr department

00:22:03.760 yeah i'd say it's probably negative to be honest exactly yeah exactly but uh but this article then

00:22:09.420 goes on to contradict itself because one of the writers says we made it up and then stephen graham

00:22:14.480 who's a star of the show and one of the co-writers uh says actually it was based on not a single case but

00:22:21.020 inspired by a series of disturbing real life events which seems to again be a contradiction from the

00:22:26.640 original statement that it was based on two in particular but graham says where it came from for

00:22:31.000 me is there was this incident in liverpool a young girl and she was stabbed to death by a young boy

00:22:35.620 i just thought why then there was another young girl in south london who was stabbed to death at a bus stop

00:22:40.720 that's the diverse one and there was this thing up north where that young girl brianna gay i don't want 1.00

00:22:46.580 to be crass here but i have to point out that brianna gay was a boy he was transgender i was lured into the

00:22:53.120 park by two teenagers and they stabbed her i just thought what's going on what is this that's

00:22:57.380 happening so with the brianna gay thing i would imagine given the circumstances there was a bit

00:23:01.620 more going on to that that wasn't a relationship thing that was them that was two predatory kids

00:23:07.040 who were just evil yeah obviously obviously a horrible horrible thing to do whatever your ideology

00:23:12.420 but again it seems to be a bit more complicated than just saying well they were radicalized by online

00:23:17.400 misogynists but it carries on the actor also echoed these comments at a next on netflix event

00:23:22.380 earlier this year the idea quote came as over the past 10 years or so we've seen an epidemic of knife

00:23:28.820 crime amongst young lads up and down the country i wonder why that is who's committing those knife

00:23:35.300 crimes must be those ninjas i would imagine again it literally is the ninjas yeah it is the ninjas and

00:23:42.360 you've got to admit again the the manufactured consent is incredible we know that there's this

00:23:47.060 real problem but the establishment doesn't actually want to address who is causing this problem who is

00:23:53.480 the main disproportionate not saying that young white kids aren't also doing some stuff like this

00:23:59.520 but who is the disproportionate people committing these crimes i had somebody do not want to address

00:24:05.140 somebody come back on me on twitter on that point and say it was the effect of oh well the jamie

00:24:10.220 bulger killers were white and it was like yeah that was a remarkable case that happened like 1.00

00:24:13.860 35 years ago or something like that and he and one of them is still john venables is still

00:24:19.440 basically under witness protection because if he reveals himself he will be murdered yes

00:24:23.940 but but now it's just part and parcel of living in multicultural britain of course people weren't

00:24:31.500 too long to find out that there were government connections with this charlotte gill's done quite a

00:24:35.280 bit of this that she's been posting on twitter so this is the charity that's been working

00:24:39.380 with adolescents in conjunction with them tender who did a screening of netflix's adolescence when it

00:24:45.640 first came out they have received 3.4 million pounds in taxpayer funding from 2020 to 24 they

00:24:55.440 also are very well connected to the drama world as she points out here olivia coleman is one of their

00:25:02.680 patrons they did the big screening launched at a special screening at soho's hotel with over 40 people

00:25:08.460 from organizations working to end violence that's an ambitious goal bloody hell that's huge that's

00:25:16.220 the concept of violence we're against it oh okay the drama shines a light on online misogyny and its

00:25:21.520 dangerous impact on young people today tender ceo suzy mcdonald mbe joined adolescence co-creators

00:25:27.620 steven graham and jack thorne the and producer joe johnson to explore their motivation uh and they will be the

00:25:34.240 ones producing the guide the the coursework and teaching guides for all of these showings at the

00:25:42.640 secondary schools also they've done things like an event in february called how to be a boy

00:25:48.320 conversations with men a panel including nazir avzal dan snow and the global director of diversity and

00:25:57.240 inclusion at clifford chance and olivia coleman was there as well this is the man i want describing

00:26:03.940 masculinity to me teaching you masculinity do they think that dan snow the ultimate nepo historian

00:26:09.980 he do they think they're going to out compete andrew tate in talking to young men while they do this

00:26:15.360 oh come on do you not just see the appeal the young disenfranchised boys that this panel has 0.95

00:26:21.260 they're literally saying hey hey young boys don't you just want to be basically a domestic pet and stay

00:26:25.920 on the plantation and these young men it's like no i would rather watch andrew tate well i can i guess

00:26:31.860 we're going to have to uh censor the internet then yeah that's literally going to have to be it 0.98

00:26:35.500 everyone on that panel looks like a lesbian including the men yeah i mean they've all got their knees 1.00

00:26:39.540 together yeah yeah it's not look at he's crossed his legs like a woman terrible showing terrible 0.99

00:26:46.340 showing atrocious of course there is connections to sadiq khan of course in 2022 he launched a one

00:26:52.020 million pound anti-semitism toolkit for all secondary schools anti-sexism oh sorry anti-sexism

00:26:57.360 i was like geez now that as well i'd be surprised if khan was doing that yeah yeah and that was

00:27:04.220 delivered by tender and they're the ones again doing this coursework from tuesday the first of

00:27:10.980 april secondary schools will stream all four episodes to support teachers parents and carers to

00:27:14.920 navigate conversations around the important topics the series explores tender will produce guidelines

00:27:19.180 and resources that will be available through the streaming service alongside the netflix show

00:27:24.040 let's take a look at some of this is a quick thing here that if i was at school i'd be like

00:27:27.940 brilliant because that's basically an afternoon off right oh yeah that's like when you're getting

00:27:32.320 to christmas break you've run out of lessons to teach so let's put home alone on yeah exactly

00:27:38.580 there you go and this time it's let's watch a 13 year old murder some girls jesus i haven't seen 1.00

00:27:45.660 it but i'm sure he doesn't actually do this i don't think you see it on the screen but the whole

00:27:49.560 thing the most i've seen normies talk about is oh each episode's a one shot oh isn't that amazing

00:27:54.520 it's impressive i mean it is it is impressive but i find it funny that the normies that have spoken

00:27:58.880 to me about it don't seem to care about the politics they're just dazzled by the uh technical

00:28:04.860 aspects of it i did watch a bit of it and actually the girl who's dad was a bit of a cow i mean i'm not

00:28:09.500 saying that it justifies the made-up murder but she was a bit of a cow but the the point being though is

00:28:14.440 that you know when they do that sort of thing it's not like the normie is sat there like with

00:28:18.160 his film critique studies or something they've been told oh it's been done to one shot and therefore

00:28:23.080 you can think that this is more impressive than the average thing you watch this is a status symbol

00:28:27.380 now be knowing this is a status symbol you're more smart than your but but what it actually does is

00:28:33.140 gets them to be even more passive while absorbing the propaganda that's being spewed to them so what kind

00:28:39.060 of uh guidelines and resources could you expect well here's a pyramid of sexual violence

00:28:44.420 that tender has genocide in the past yes yes so it starts off yes it starts off with locker room

00:28:52.060 banter thinking and bragging and it ends in genocide so so literally again okay wrapping back around to

00:29:03.800 the beginning this is all female hysterics going like oh i dreamt that you did something bad last 1.00

00:29:11.000 night you've got to apologize to me this is listen it's not what you said it's how you said it you

00:29:17.480 started you started bragging with some locker room banter this is basically genocide next step

00:29:23.040 pyramid of sexual violence and like okay so when men are being genocided that's not sexual violence

00:29:30.020 but now when women are being genocided that is sexual violence

00:29:33.360 how is murder different from femicide well how is murder different from homicide i like they've

00:29:41.800 separated gang rape from war rape an important distinction sexual abuse from sexual assault a lot

00:29:47.420 of this just seems to be filling up space in the sexual violence pyramid wait what safe word 0.97

00:29:54.000 violations there where is removal of autonomy safe word violations okay what does that mean

00:30:00.100 that's one step away from gang rape that's that's one step away from gang rape wait so safe word

00:30:07.320 does that mean like literally people doing kinky stuff in the bedroom i have a safe word i've never

00:30:12.520 done anything that requires a safe word so so they think if you forget the safe word you're one step

00:30:18.260 away from you notice how femicide is higher up the list than murder so presumably the murder of a woman

00:30:24.640 is worse than murder of a man it's always worse when it happens to a woman no matter what it is yes 0.92

00:30:29.100 um so there you go expect this in a school near you if you've got kids who are going to be going

00:30:34.060 through some of this teaching let us know how they get on if nothing else i imagine it'll be quite

00:30:38.500 funny it's just that's wild man oh man it's insane it's absolutely insane right okay uh the last

00:30:46.260 russian says uh girl school would need male teachers but there must be 35 plus female teachers and girl 1.00

00:30:50.860 schools must have kids of their own to teach there must have strong controls and end the perpetuation of

00:30:54.460 feminism um yeah but it's a long long way off that uh ramshack lot says attended a very good 0.91

00:31:00.060 girls grammar school uh all teachers are women except for a couple of absolute weirdo male teachers

00:31:04.500 years later a male teacher another girl's grammar we knew admitted to upskirt and kids yeah well

00:31:09.140 that's why i don't think there should be any male teachers there genuinely uh dragon lady chris says

00:31:14.680 not sure i want a woman teaching my daughter maths or science for merit-based hiring uh women 1.00

00:31:19.560 women learn to count and do science i i mean it might i'm a progressive in my further maths class

00:31:26.420 that we had a female teacher but she was horribly boring well that's always a threat when you're 1.00

00:31:32.120 doing anything math related yeah uh hewitt says uh that's we're english point uh unfortunately boys

00:31:37.740 acting out in response to being shown our lessons would just be used as proof of the message yes it

00:31:41.820 absolutely will that's a great point um and russian says uh you guys say showing this in schools will

00:31:46.720 backfire you must be aware of how low testosterone levels are i am certain one third of boys today

00:31:50.720 will support this yeah but one third of men support this they vote labor like that's the thing

00:31:55.180 that like if they do support it i can guarantee that of that one third most of them will be supporting

00:32:02.000 it to try and get in with the girls and not just that they'll just be the sort of naturally 0.97

00:32:06.580 conformable types but um but yeah they will there will definitely be boys who like this but there'll

00:32:10.940 be a lot of boys who just take the piss out of this but uh anyway right let's let's move on

00:32:15.120 so multiculturalism in britain shocking success everyone agrees uh that's an interesting lucky 0.92

00:32:25.180 scheme what where's this going uh yeah no it's a fact check it's going brilliantly and you can tell

00:32:31.260 that it's going brilliantly because we nearly created a racial caste system uh we we avoided it by

00:32:38.080 literally a hair's breadth and okay so we're past that but nothing's going to change i'll go through

00:32:44.160 that in a minute but um before we begin uh go over and watch on notices.com dr benedict beckold

00:32:50.060 talk with stellius about the dangers of multiculturalism and explaining why exactly

00:32:55.220 this paradigm is so bad for us and this uh this segment is just going to show us exactly proof of

00:33:01.660 what is it necessarily so bad because if they instantiate a ethnic um caste based system yeah it's

00:33:07.220 bad if we're at the bottom of it dan well yeah but if if they say okay that principle is fine

00:33:11.800 in the future we could just reorder it no so then wessex man is at the top and then mercy a man and

00:33:17.020 you basically just hey hey hey hey hey hey i think there's equal space at the top for wessex and

00:33:22.400 mercy a man okay now i agree with you now dan oh this is bullying stellius is not the only culprit

00:33:29.200 it's all of them you're all just jealous of my pure bread english genes you're 99 percent anyway

00:33:37.260 you may remember that on the 5th of march uh the sentencing council which is a quango set up by the 1.00

00:33:45.140 labour party um to create more communism in britain uh decided that what they were going to do is for

00:33:53.000 some reason and no one was provoking this it came out of nowhere and said yeah you know what uh we should

00:33:57.280 have the courts in britain consider various attributes about people when they start sentencing

00:34:03.100 them so if they were say a young adult a woman from an ethnic minority or a faith minority or maybe

00:34:10.660 if they're transgender or they're addicts or something uh maybe they should get a lesser sentence 1.00

00:34:16.080 than would otherwise be handed down and of course there was one particular cohort that wasn't included

00:34:21.940 in that which was being a straight white man you'd get the full sentence it makes sense to me to take

00:34:28.340 the people who are statistically the least likely generally to commit certain crimes outside of maybe

00:34:34.680 east women and east asians and to punish them more yeah why not yeah i mean again it's about keeping 1.00

00:34:42.920 men on the plantation right you have to be like no this is the blairite paradigm this is the matriarchy 1.00

00:34:47.380 this is you've got to understand i mean it's literally women transgender or minority and if

00:34:52.720 you're not one of those you're a man and you deserve the full force of the law right sorry

00:34:57.680 well and i was going to say in actually in a lot of countries i mean it just is the system that if

00:35:02.140 you're not native you automatically get a harsh sentence yeah and you don't you know you don't 1.00

00:35:06.900 have access to various privileges like latvia recently disenfranchised 80 000 russians living in

00:35:12.680 latvia just on the basis that they're russian it's like oh i didn't know we could do that

00:35:16.840 uh anyway so yeah like i said this is a quango that was set up by uh tony blair begins with the

00:35:22.660 advisory panel gets into the sentencing guideline panel then in 2008 the sentencing panel finally

00:35:27.580 created in 2010 i think it was under gordon brown uh and they've been making bad mistakes ever since

00:35:35.540 i mean it was set up under labor of course it continued the whole time during the tories as well

00:35:39.960 oh yeah yeah obviously the conservatives were like right labor have done something we accept that

00:35:44.320 100 and in fact i'll get back to that in a minute uh and so anyway yeah so this this sentencing quango

00:35:50.980 decided that they were going to uh try and create a racial caste system in the uk with white men at the

00:35:56.580 bottom and presumably everyone else on a kind of stratified progressive stack heading upwards and so

00:36:02.280 when this came out uh shabana mahmoud who is the uh secretary for justice under kirstama's labor

00:36:08.920 party uh came out and said you know what i actually don't agree with this because of course there was a

00:36:15.080 massive amount of backlash and i think the alternative would have been saying i'm okay with this

00:36:20.500 she 100 does agree with this she just got caught out well this she didn't cause this right so i'm not

00:36:27.340 going to suggest that she is the author of this or isn't is endorsing because she's done nothing but

00:36:31.740 condemn it right i would bet my entire net worth in private she agrees with this i can't critique that

00:36:39.200 right i've got no position with which to critique that but she like i said she's not the cause of 0.99

00:36:44.160 this and she has done nothing but oppose this so i don't know but she said uh this the sentencing

00:36:51.440 council is entirely independent which is part of the problem in fact now there's an independent woke

00:36:56.880 quango that has control over the courts that we can't democratically remove people from yeah that 0.99

00:37:03.740 actually good point shabana that's exactly one of the problems with the blairite state

00:37:09.420 is yeah no they're entirely independent yeah okay what are they doing then it was entire blairite

00:37:13.780 project we're going to take every aspect of power of the state and we're going to put it in a quango

00:37:17.760 stuff it with our people yes so that we control the state forever yes that's that's precisely the

00:37:24.040 point and precisely the problem with this and so the labor government who themselves are consciously

00:37:30.460 a continuation of the blairite project after the conservatives after labor and tony blair himself

00:37:35.440 have come out and been like yeah so i don't know what this quango is doing i don't agree with it so okay 0.99

00:37:40.240 well you are the government you could do something about that and so instead they say i'll be writing to

00:37:47.040 the sentencing council to register my displeasure and recommend reversing just change the guidance

00:37:52.480 oh yes i wrote them a letter oh well i guess there we go job done it better have been strongly

00:37:57.760 worded i'm sure it was very strongly worded right uh and say she says as someone from an ethnic minority

00:38:03.580 background myself i do not stand for any differential treatment before the law or anyone of any kind so

00:38:08.180 this is you know a perfectly reasonable and sensible position for someone of an ethnic minority or the

00:38:13.320 ethnic ethnic majority to come to so look i don't want to be someone who in a multi-racial society 1.00

00:38:19.940 is explicitly settled out by the law and targeted and gets a worse sentence and that principle

00:38:25.340 applies also to the majority perfectly reasonable right i am going to send them a letter

00:38:30.240 right and that's you know she's only the justice minister she's only could she possibly do she's 1.00

00:38:35.560 only the person who decides all of this yeah right so anyway on the other side you had robert

00:38:41.220 jemrich who was the only conservative to make a lot of noise about this now again there was another

00:38:46.420 voice that was remarkably absent from this did anyone hear from anything on nigel for us from

00:38:50.300 this nope oh look into that right now i don't remember a word he may have made a tweet or

00:38:56.620 something but this went under his radar for some reason um at least i didn't see it anyway and if

00:39:02.240 if not why wasn't i just hearing it non-stop that two-tier kia and his two-tier blairite society

00:39:07.860 were going to literally make straight white men the the underclass i guess it's just not an issue

00:39:12.580 that's important to him i guess not i mean he's only got grandkids uh anyway so yeah robert

00:39:17.440 jemrich was the and again the one conservative who is okay with this uh who's against this and

00:39:23.780 actually decided to make a kick up a big stink about it every other conservative mp is just like

00:39:28.840 yeah i think farage might have spoken about it at a reform conference when giving a speech the other

00:39:38.240 day because uh i can't obviously listen into it right now but there's a facebook post

00:39:42.940 where he was saying tonight i will speak live on illegal migration sentencing guidelines and

00:39:47.420 labor's nhs lies and what's the date on that that was yesterday right so a full month after this has

00:39:53.540 all been done and after we've got the result nigel farage is finally prepared to come out against two

00:39:58.920 tier sentences so he's slightly behind labor on this he's massively behind the curve kia starmer came

00:40:03.500 out and condemned this yep right like long before nigel farage uh so anyway i'll just go show you 0.70

00:40:10.100 how useful nigel farage is so anyway on the 11th of march uh robert jemrich uh presented a private

00:40:15.000 members bill to parliament uh which was um there we go see you see it uh just to make sure that the

00:40:22.640 sentencing council is actually beholden to the secretary of state so they can't just do this without

00:40:28.160 the approval of at least a member of government right so it's no longer independent it would be

00:40:33.480 actually directly under an elected official so the sentencing council go look we've got this thing

00:40:39.240 we want to send it out to the courts we need you an elected official to sign off okay that's actually 0.58

00:40:43.500 a much better structure it's not an independent quango that gets to do whatever the hell it likes 0.98

00:40:49.020 without any accountability uh this was shot down by shabana mahmood oh right blocked it yes so

00:40:58.740 hang on a minute you're trying to introduce law to stop a bad thing happening have you considered

00:41:04.060 a letter instead yes the bad thing that she herself has condemned there will never be two-tier

00:41:08.960 sentencing under my watch because my letters are deeply important to the sentencing council which

00:41:15.200 they can just ignore but she is also going to block illegal challenge to make it so she can't do this 1.00

00:41:21.760 so uh just a quick thing as well this this bill was uh presented by jamrick it was also supported by

00:41:26.760 keby badenock rebecca harris dr kieran mullen and helen grant so badenock was also behind you know

00:41:32.420 backing this fair enough worth pointing out right but uh for some reason yeah mahmood was just like

00:41:38.100 no that is interesting that she rejected because this would actually fit quite in line with keir

00:41:42.780 starmer having abolished nhs england which was itself a quango uh and i mean part of the labor 0.54

00:41:50.680 goals at the moment seem to be to attempt to re-centralize a lot of the power strictly within

00:41:56.660 government and take away some of the power that was originally created with those quangos in the 1.00

00:42:00.800 first place because they're back in charge now i imagine the quangos were like well this will keep 1.00

00:42:05.740 us in charge during conservatives and then when we get back we don't need them now we'll re-centralize

00:42:10.700 everything because we don't need them anymore if it helps it seems to be a genuine like there's been a

00:42:16.080 changing of the guard in labor right from the blairite days to now and it seems that the new

00:42:21.500 guard of labor are actually fighting with the institutions that the old guard set up in their

00:42:26.860 ignorance thinking well this will be how the administrative state runs forever and actually

00:42:30.920 it seems that in this we're seeing that the new guard of labor are like no this has to change

00:42:35.200 like otherwise we're not in control of things and you know well bureaucrats want a bureaucrat well

00:42:40.540 exactly and half their bureaucrating has been pushed out to quangos yes uh anyway so uh

00:42:44.600 the the uh the the thing carried on apparently mahmoud's letter didn't work uh and so letter

00:42:52.680 labor uh threatened the two days before the guidelines was due to come into effect uh the

00:42:58.840 sentencing council had refused mahmoud's request to rethink it and so she threatened them with

00:43:04.900 legislation that would override them okay okay okay maybe something will happen here maybe and uh no

00:43:12.300 they didn't are you telling me that nothing happened uh no no no kind of right so the the judges just

00:43:20.700 turn around and and starma was also in agreement and just said no this was lord justice william davis

00:43:27.320 one of the i mean like he's going to be in the running with you harry for like the most genetically

00:43:33.260 english person in the world by the way uh if you see there's probably a picture in here of him

00:43:37.980 there we go oh dear so just absolute lib dem voting ponce basically uh i don't know whether there are

00:43:49.180 two paths for the anglo to choose and he chose the wrong one yeah yeah but he absolutely looks like the 0.99

00:43:54.860 kind of person who really like likes ed davis right yeah he could have been a turnip farner in the 8th

00:44:00.460 century yeah yeah absolutely absolutely right but anyway so he uh he rejected their demands saying

00:44:06.460 that uh claims that judges were intervening on policy i mean any man any judge or magistrate required

00:44:11.900 to sentence an offender must do so must do all they can to avoid difference on in outcome based on

00:44:17.180 ethnicity what did you not read your own guideline it's the direct opposite of what it does yes like the the

00:44:24.540 guideline itself let's get the guideline up shall we just because it's just one of those like

00:44:29.980 preposterous statements right here like reduce consider the following uh to reduce the uh

00:44:40.940 well the thing is he'd be one of those lefties who thinks that certain people start three steps

00:44:44.940 behind and therefore at every opportunity that is 100 and then that is balance yeah so anyway uh

00:44:51.100 just preposterous statement from uh mr sorry lord justice william davis uh and so anyway why reduce

00:45:00.540 it because of it that right and uh so the government eventually does bring forward legislation saying look

00:45:07.020 okay we are going to work with parliament to fast track this legislation to stop this from coming into

00:45:12.220 effect right so the we've written you the nice letter we've rejected the conservative attempt to legislate on

00:45:18.380 this and now you've you and so you've gone yep we're just going to keep doing it uh under the guise of

00:45:24.300 anti-discrimination we're going to make enforced discrimination the norm in the courts and so

00:45:29.340 mahmoud and starma have actually going no we will actually fast track legislation if you don't back down

00:45:33.180 from this and they back down from it it's like right okay great that's great that's something at least

00:45:40.380 right but what stops this from happening tomorrow well the only reason it did happen this time is because

00:45:45.900 jenrik made a big fuss out of it yes otherwise it just would have been one of those bureaucratic thing

00:45:49.580 that just goes through the background because jenrik was hammering this drum and two-tier kia is

00:45:55.420 already very sensitive to allegations of being uh two-tier but the the the thing that i found really

00:46:01.260 annoying about it right was jenrik because like it's not that i don't like jenrik i do like him

00:46:06.220 but listen to this why don't they just abolish it because kia starmer suddenly woke up one morning

00:46:12.460 and decided to abolish nhs england couldn't he just abolish the sentencing council don't you think

00:46:17.660 you should do that i think the sentencing council needs total reform it is not right that you've got

00:46:26.620 judges unelected people setting really crucial policies affecting our criminal justice system

00:46:34.060 like saying that certain groups should be privileged through the system over others we want equality

00:46:40.380 before the law but he's probably the best story but he's still a tory exactly you know no matter what

00:46:46.860 good things a tory does they still end up as a tory they still end up as someone who fundamentally

00:46:52.700 supports the blairite project yes listen listen to what he said there i i think it's terrible and

00:46:57.340 unacceptable that unelected judges are making decisions for the legal system in britain okay but

00:47:02.780 that's what that quango is right every single time they do something that's what they're doing 1.00

00:47:08.780 and so mike graham unbelievably made a good point like why don't we just scrap it now i want to reform

00:47:13.900 it reform it into what you come a long way from the common law system absolutely and so it's just like

00:47:19.820 right he's suffering from a terrible bout of tory well we can't do anything this is terrible but we can't

00:47:28.220 do anything the secret is especially if you're in power if you're in government you can just do things

00:47:34.620 which keir starmer showed us with nhs england and is showing us in this case it's like we will

00:47:39.900 literally just legislate if you don't do what we say and what they do they back down right so it's

00:47:45.980 completely possible you can you can make things happen so anyway a quick thing yeah who's who's objecting

00:47:52.620 to this well lots of lawyers lots of lefty lawyers lots of left-wing identitarian lawyers

00:47:58.300 the society of black lawyers yeah uh yeah they they say that this is dangerous by the way

00:48:05.740 there's an openly sectarian organization have to have any say on the legal sentencing guidelines

00:48:12.540 for this country i don't know i mean you could probably outlaw the society on black lawyers using 1.00

00:48:16.780 current anti-discrimination law saying no well we couldn't do that though if you don't allow

00:48:21.660 white asian or whoever lawyers into your society racially discriminating you know we could probably 0.90

00:48:27.660 outlaw that using the current they only ever apply those rules one way exactly they do yeah you know

00:48:33.740 you're never going to see the society of white lawyers sighting or maybe you see the society of

00:48:37.820 asian lawyers but anyway they they say that uh this was terrible because they were an attempt quote

00:48:43.740 to achieve equal treatment after racist two-tier policing for 500 years stop you there you have not

00:48:50.300 been here for 500 years i don't care what netflix has told you right i do not care like there was like 0.61

00:48:56.540 saying that henry the eighth trumpeter represents a black community in britain for 500 years preposterous

00:49:02.540 since 1948 okay first thing um but secondly how does it require how does it achieve equal treatment if

00:49:10.300 you're literally given time off your sentence because you are black right that's literally not equal 1.00

00:49:16.380 treatment so i'm i'm tired of hearing this and also doesn't it just basically require every criminal

00:49:21.100 in the country to convert to islam i mean it opens the door to that yeah i know a lot of them convert

00:49:26.860 in jail anyway because they're fed up and getting beaten up if you if you get arrested you say well i

00:49:30.540 am a muslim you know yeah and they'll be like oh are you it's like yeah i know i'm not dressed like

00:49:34.620 one but i don't have to be or you could say i'm transgender but i don't have to look transgender

00:49:38.140 yes and you know then suddenly get put in the women's prison for a much shorter amount of time 1.00

00:49:43.260 like sorry this is i mean this is literally what undid nicolas sturgeon but uh anyway so peter herbert

00:49:48.780 the chair of the society of black lawyers says uh that and then uh pavan dill wall the head of

00:49:54.620 the charity revolving doors says the chancellor's decision to block recommendations for pre-sentencing

00:49:59.500 reports for minorities is to ignore lived experience evidence and the disparity uh the reality of

00:50:05.180 disparity in our courts and so this pre-sentencing was one of the few tools we have to challenge

00:50:11.100 those disparities by giving the courts their full context poverty trauma and racial discrimination

00:50:17.020 so right so those those communities that may have a higher propensity towards crime anyway

00:50:21.900 and therefore a higher rate of recidivism and therefore a higher length of sentencing

00:50:26.300 because of past crimes that are contributing to the sentence of the current crime right yeah they will

00:50:31.500 get let off just purely because well they're brown aren't they that's like that's not good enough 0.99

00:50:36.780 well i'm sorry he murdered somebody your honor but have you considered he does have traumatic mental

00:50:41.180 health issues well in that case he's free to go so this leaves us just to end this quickly is in

00:50:47.820 exactly the this is a perfect example of why this is everything that's wrong with britain right so the

00:50:53.180 first time you've got the the the administrative blairite state no one's been fired nothing's been changed

00:50:59.180 it's going to continue in perpetuity it's going to be that labor governments are at war with their own

00:51:04.780 labor bureau uh labor blairite legislative state uh bureaucrat state great what what are they trying to

00:51:11.500 do well they're trying to literally create a racial caste system to give minorities privileges over the 0.98

00:51:17.180 majorities and this has got you can see this you know the charity the society with black lawyers this

00:51:22.780 has got a large well-funded and protected activist class whose entire job is to create racial privileges

00:51:30.620 for the people they belong to against the majority of the country all the time there's stuff like this

00:51:36.300 that flies under the radar that never makes it to the top of the news cycle exactly this is why this

00:51:40.540 is such an important and the only real opposition there's no far right being like hey this isn't on

00:51:46.700 it's robert jenrich a conservative who doesn't even want to change the system yeah right that's the

00:51:54.060 problem with britain at the moment and we'll leave that any of those common things or no no no you've

00:52:00.940 got plenty of time to tell us how you'll reform the entire system right so i've got a question for you

00:52:07.420 do we actually have our first choice as our elected representative so think about whatever

00:52:14.460 constituency you live in if you even know who your mp is would that be your first choice as your

00:52:19.740 person to represent you i mean at this point my first choice would be genghis khan right so probably

00:52:24.460 not then but again do you even know you mp is yes would we would no no right okay there we go

00:52:31.340 the point is though that is more or less what we're supposed to have we're supposed to have

00:52:35.500 the person who best represents you is the person who is your representative and clearly that is not

00:52:40.060 happening so that's that's the starting frame point i want to start for this now i'm gonna have to do a

00:52:43.740 little bit of background because you see i have been doing some thinking lately about well the the

00:52:49.580 way that the the whole system works is a bit it's a big big picture um the first part of my thinking

00:52:55.340 on this was this um video that i put out on the daily channel which is what's the points of cities

00:52:59.580 now i'm going to try and very quickly cap my argument here because i think it is kind of key so

00:53:05.660 so basically end of the 13th century you had a gravitation away from the land being the primary

00:53:12.380 factor of production to capital being the main factor of production so effectively went from

00:53:16.860 agricultural-based society to a city-based society where you got artisans and all the rest of it who

00:53:21.740 emerged into uh industrialists and so on and it changed the entire system so under the old system

00:53:27.580 the two key factors of production was um people and land and that was controlled by the bishops and the

00:53:34.300 lord so the bishops commands loyalty and the lords control land now as you start to move into towns and

00:53:40.780 you get that rise of the artisans the proto-industrialists you get the rise of the money lenders um you know

00:53:46.540 the bankers as they come to be known you get a new mix which is going to be again people and capital

00:53:52.940 so the so again the controlling class here was politicians who control consent and the banker and

00:53:59.260 the industrialist who controls capital okay and we've moved to this new system and what we're seeing now

00:54:05.260 is a new shift from basically capital being the key factor of production to knowledge being the key

00:54:11.740 factor of production in the digital age okay so uh you know uh i'll come i'll come back to what i think

00:54:17.500 that that tells you but if you do have capital what can you do with it well one of the things that you can

00:54:21.660 do with it is you can go to the merch store and you can buy a t-shirt um and then you will deploy

00:54:27.020 your capital into something useful so right anyway so what's the new model if i follow this logic that

00:54:35.340 the key factor of production is the power class and there are people who can command either you know

00:54:41.900 loyalty or consent or that or other are the um second part of that equation what does the new

00:54:48.220 governing structure have to look like in a digital age well it's basically um you need to control again

00:54:55.260 people and knowledge so but this time it's leverage and knowledge so it's tech bros controlling the

00:55:01.260 government we're already seeing that in the united states and it is influencers controlling the people

00:55:08.060 because they do because when people are thinking this is the point of the bbc right the bbc like if you

00:55:13.580 if you look at it now the bbc in the 20th century having essentially a monopoly on almost all information

00:55:20.140 that people received well less and less i mean no no but think think about it like so

00:55:25.100 up until like was it 1995 or something there are only three terrestrial tv channels anyway

00:55:30.780 and up and then i think it was like 1990 the sky came in but that's a barrier to entry anyway that

00:55:35.900 most people didn't have and so for about 50 odd years in or 60 years in britain that the bbc had just

00:55:44.060 literally a monopoly on the information that tv watches would have that's incredible that's the

00:55:48.460 sort of thing the soviet union was trying to have and essentially they're trying to control consent

00:55:53.100 yeah consent for the industrialist and the banker controlling everything behind the scenes which

00:55:59.740 they do and they use media in order and they use politicians in order to get that yeah so you can

00:56:04.060 see this whole dynamic repeats time and time again if you want if you if you really interested before

00:56:07.980 the agricultural system it was just hunter gatherers and the only factor there was was people

00:56:13.260 um so you know the tribal chief or whatever but you can see this consistent times yeah consistent

00:56:17.420 theme of how power works quick thing on that as well just to just be clear that i agree uh with your

00:56:21.980 broad uh analysis of the economy i think it is worth pointing out that this is a very english analysis

00:56:27.900 you're giving uh because the um from the 13th century onwards um england had a thriving land market

00:56:36.540 most places didn't have a thriving land market most like for example but by at least the 15th or 16th

00:56:42.300 centuries england wasn't a peasant society and didn't have any peasants yes whereas most countries

00:56:47.100 yes but i i don't concern myself with the foreigners like the french or whatever just just to make it

00:56:51.100 clear to people watching no well i work with the russian 19th century peasant commune right oh yeah

00:56:56.700 yeah i mean in in the in the earlier video that i showed i mean the the key split point was the black

00:57:01.980 death where basically um if you're an english peasant you got more because it was few of you

00:57:07.340 so you were able to collectively bargain for better conditions you're able to move around and

00:57:11.660 that's what allowed the formation of the early towns because people could could go and reposition

00:57:16.300 themselves to somewhere else in russia it worked the opposite way around because there were too spread

00:57:19.980 out the black death actually increased the power of the aristocracy which then led to the problems 0.96

00:57:24.140 they had later on but uh yeah no uh moving on with the uh with the theme this is this is actually

00:57:30.300 something that the wife showed me because she she doesn't use the the twitter she uses the facebook 0.96

00:57:35.340 yeah this is the ultimate boomer screenshot yes um but basically it's the reflection of your phone

00:57:44.300 on the screen yes it's the it you couldn't just take a screenshot no she did this oh okay all right

00:57:51.740 yeah um anyway so so she she found this thing uh about some lefty on the facebook complaining about

00:57:58.220 um how how this kind of works and and i won't go into it all now because it's a typical wordy

00:58:02.780 blah blah lefty thing but anyway he's basically saying if you try if you confuse what musk is

00:58:06.220 trying to achieve with doge and he goes through it all he basically says the power is with the

00:58:10.380 paypal mafia the tech bros essentially um and they're trying to take over government um and it's

00:58:15.580 this dark magra agenda and they're going to basically get rid of elections and democracy because it's

00:58:19.820 obsolete and um you know they're going to push this through and all that kind of stuff and they

00:58:23.500 might create a quango or something yeah and now my first i wish we lived in this kind of

00:58:27.740 world exactly right so my first reaction to this is what i always see when i see a lefty explainer

00:58:32.220 post if only right right but actually i i think he's got a big part of it i i actually i think the

00:58:41.340 thing about the the tech bros taking power that is a real thing that is really going to happen and

00:58:48.060 it's consistent with what happened before when the artisans started and the industrialists started to

00:58:53.180 become powerful they started forming guilds and that was the basis of the the modern power

00:58:59.100 structure that we have today the the capital class came together and created that just a quick moment

00:59:04.780 that's the entire liberal revolution is the bourgeois revolution of middle-class capital learning people

00:59:10.540 who wanted to break through the feudal social structure that was holding exactly and that's all

00:59:17.420 that's happening now look we've become powerful in this society yes there's no reason we can't

00:59:21.740 break through whatever was inhibiting us before yes and because they control the key factor of

00:59:26.780 production it was inevitable that they were going to get that power right and and the the true break

00:59:31.820 point for this a little bit of history was um going to be just noticed another one of his little uh

00:59:37.900 little things that the strategy to get the is to get the government via rage retire all government

00:59:44.140 employees totally amazing we need to adopt the rage strategy and make the government incapable of 0.91

00:59:51.100 operating yes sir i i think he i think he's right he's just a little bit early uh but actually

00:59:57.660 might might you know i i think i think he's more or less right and i'm just explaining why all right

01:00:01.820 okay now the the key break point for when this happened the last time around was going to be the

01:00:05.500 great reformer act of 1832 right you find that particularly funny do you harry no i'm just i'm just

01:00:11.420 i'm still sniggering over the last i'm just feeling the urge to rage right now i just love this

01:00:17.180 love to make to use distraction and chaos to prevent public resistance why would there be 0.99

01:00:21.900 public resistance the people looting them on the daily yeah like god damn man i should have given 0.95

01:00:26.460 you guys more time on this that's all right you carry on with the great reform act all right all 0.88

01:00:30.940 right so great reform act 1832 uh parliament has failed us before now why was the great reform act of

01:00:37.180 1832 so necessary it's because the parliamentary system that we had was still wedded to the old

01:00:42.620 structure the landed system so you had rotten boroughs you had um landed aristocracy who were 1.00

01:00:48.140 controlling things and were massively overrepresented so some of these rotten boroughs you'd have

01:00:51.900 um so for example you'd have no parliamentary seats for entire new cities that had merged or

01:00:57.420 towns that emerged they'd have no parliamentary representation but some little village somewhere

01:01:02.380 would have like several mps and it would be basically controlled by whoever the landed or

01:01:07.180 was to aristocracy in the area would say oh yeah we want that guy right so there's actually a

01:01:11.260 good example fairly near us uh there's a there's an old um pre-norman hill fort called old sarum

01:01:18.220 but i went to uh and visited and it's very nice and stuff was that constituency once it was right

01:01:24.460 down the road was a rotten borough as well because like literally there were two people living in old

01:01:28.700 sarum something like that because the the the thing was they both mps probably yeah it was no no

01:01:34.300 that's probably it actually and they voted for each but like there was basically no population in this

01:01:39.420 old ruin norman because the normans built a castle on it um but then there was no population there and

01:01:44.940 yet it still persisted as a norman fort as you know where the aristocrat would have had his seat but

01:01:49.980 there's no one there right and so it's returning like one or two members of parliament or whatever

01:01:54.380 and it's like but it's not a thing yes you know it's a ruin yeah and and and almost certainly how that

01:02:00.220 would have worked is whichever sorry yeah no that's exactly it like it was edward the first

01:02:05.580 who in 1295 gave sarum the right to return two members of the house of commons and yet if you

01:02:10.860 actually went there it's a desolate ruin right it's the hill yeah exactly it was it's got a

01:02:16.380 it was as deserving of political representation as anywhere else carl but it was when it was a

01:02:21.180 norman king right yeah yeah so so anyway right so um that that in 18th and think about how long it

01:02:28.620 persisted right because the model effectively changed at the end of the 13th century and there's

01:02:32.780 literally 500 years yeah yeah until 1832 when they said okay we've got to reform this now to be fair

01:02:39.340 things worked a little bit slower back then so but it what it effectively was is like i said it was the

01:02:43.660 capital class it was the urban growth it was the rising middle class they're all asserting themselves

01:02:47.740 and saying no that's not how it works anymore we're working on a new system um now we've moved

01:02:53.660 over to away from capital to knowledge as being the key thing by the way if anyone doesn't believe

01:02:59.020 me when i say that that is a real thing explain to me why netflix is a giant company and blockbuster

01:03:04.940 isn't oh it's also um you didn't have to break my heart like that dan yeah but it's also so obviously

01:03:12.140 true because if you look at the companies that began the internet most of them don't exist anymore

01:03:17.580 yes and yet the new ones are all knowledge-based companies that have used a different technique

01:03:23.500 to employ the technology to create the modern world to become what they are now these like

01:03:28.140 they're all tech companies all the biggest companies are all tech companies yeah and and yes they have

01:03:32.940 accumulated a lot of capital but that's a function of them having a lead on knowledge it came downstream

01:03:37.900 of the knowledge exactly also companies like google uh was it um what was his face uh talked about how

01:03:45.020 they were set up using government money anyway

01:03:47.580 a lot of them were yeah yeah well a lot of them were already started by the government

01:03:51.260 well a lot of them won joint contracts and stuff and yeah yeah so on um but yeah i mean the the

01:03:55.740 blockbuster v netflix thing is okay if you go back to 2005 blockbuster had um whatever it was something

01:04:02.300 like 25 000 stores around the world 80 000 employees institution yeah it had it had all the capital

01:04:09.500 base it was netflix just had a bit of extra code and with that they were netflix used to deliver dvds they did

01:04:17.180 initially it wasn't a streaming service but that was low capital based yeah yeah and and you

01:04:21.900 transitioned so and all the big companies are a knowledge base so i think it is inevitable that

01:04:27.180 the tech pros are just going to take over government as inevitable as it was the industrialists and the

01:04:31.980 bankers took over the parliamentary system it's literally about productivity and efficiency

01:04:35.660 exactly exactly right but so if knowledge is going to be the second piece of the the governing what's

01:04:41.260 the balancing side of the equation who's going to who's going to control the people and on this it

01:04:45.660 has to be leverage it has to be who can lever um the eyeballs and the attention and the focus and

01:04:51.100 the concerns it's not Andrew Tate is it well it's going to be influencers it could be people like us

01:04:54.700 oh no literally now i i appreciate why adolescence is such an obsession now i appreciate that this

01:05:01.580 is um a little bit self-referential in the same way that are ruling the world well yes i mean i

01:05:08.540 know that was it aristotle or socrates basically thought philosopher kings should be in charge it's

01:05:13.340 plato plato right okay and then uh curtis jarvin thinks that californian tech bro should be in charge

01:05:19.500 and here i am saying that you think that you should be well yes yes but i i i do think i'm

01:05:25.420 essentially correct on this because what what is the system that we've got at the moment so i come

01:05:29.980 back you know we started with nobody has their first choice as their mp right let maybe some people

01:05:37.500 in rupert lowe's and nigel frage's constituency would consider them the first choice i mean you you could

01:05:42.620 suggest that sort of 30 percent of people in every constituency vote labor and getting their first choice

01:05:47.260 if you're a labor mp yeah but no no but they're getting their first choice of party they're not

01:05:51.260 getting their first choice of person sure yeah it's just whoever the party decides to stand in that

01:05:55.500 area yes so um what i'm suggesting is we have the technology to easily implement something much

01:06:03.100 closer to a direct democracy system now i'm not i don't actually think we want to go with direct

01:06:09.340 democracy oh really why not well because most people aren't interested and they're not going to take

01:06:13.820 the time to study these things that's the worst reason the reason we don't know what they're

01:06:18.140 direct democracy is because direct democracies are bonkers right people believe bonkers things

01:06:24.060 like remember like something like 50 percent of people are conspiracy theorists right in some way

01:06:28.700 as in they like the the like oh yeah the moon landing stuff yeah you don't want to put the great

01:06:33.180 search for bigfoot to vote i mean i i do but that's also one of the points i don't because okay fine great

01:06:39.980 search for bigfoot's a good idea but this but this this what this reveals is that essentially

01:06:45.500 the public at large are very susceptible to demagoguery right and so hang on we already know

01:06:51.900 this parliament is subset susceptible to demagoguery whatever the word you use well no parliament

01:06:57.420 isn't susceptible they want this right they they want adolescents how is it worse this is

01:07:02.380 spending our time on bigfoot as opposed to adolescents because i'd say i'd say bigfoot's a much

01:07:06.460 more noble cause it's not about bigfoot though it's about look how people have been propagandized

01:07:11.660 about ukraine right so right a successful demagogue can easily drag you into wars very very efficiently

01:07:19.500 it's actually very easy to get people to to drum up for this and to get against what's

01:07:24.060 under our current system people will vote for people who say we won't drag you into a war and

01:07:29.260 then they get dragged into a war anyway that is true yes it might just be the the whole democracy

01:07:35.100 thing is i agree yes in the first place i'm not saying there aren't issues and the people in

01:07:39.020 charge will do whatever they want anyway but a representative democracy sort of um softens the

01:07:45.100 blow of direct democracy you know like it helps the medicine go down it won't it it resists the

01:07:50.940 excesses of it right because in a direct democracy if we have a direct democracy it's literally the

01:07:54.700 most popular guy makes the point point right again andrew tate is way more popular than every

01:07:59.100 politician in this country so i am suggesting a representative system i'm simply making the point that we

01:08:04.940 have the technology that it actually is viable to have a direct democracy there's no reason why

01:08:09.980 you couldn't i'm not sure we should though yeah i don't know i agree i am simply making the point

01:08:14.860 that i have considered it and dismissed it it it's because we will literally be run by love

01:08:18.860 island yes i'm simply making the point that it is still possible to do it than what we have right

01:08:24.860 you know right yeah it'd be better the dinoocracy yeah because you could you could have an app on your

01:08:30.220 phone and every time by public taxpayer expense for everyone you could have an app on your phone

01:08:37.580 where every time a bill came through parliament each individual got to vote on it yeah i think

01:08:41.740 most people wouldn't most people rather delegate that over to somebody else and the thing is you

01:08:45.020 could always take that as consent anyway if you didn't vote for it then you just agreed with

01:08:48.780 whatever the outcome or if you don't get quorum it doesn't go through which would be even better

01:08:52.940 because then nothing would ever happen oh yeah but anyway so i do agree the point with a with a

01:08:56.860 representative system but the problem we've got at the moment is very centralized parties

01:09:01.260 and basically they've become more gatekeepers than anything else 100 yeah their entire job is to keep

01:09:06.700 out people who have views that they don't want yeah which is why i'm kind of laughing at the idea

01:09:11.500 that rupert lowell during the conservatives no so the solution is you let voters delegate to the

01:09:19.900 individuals that they actually trust right we break the link with representation from geography

01:09:26.380 because i don't think we need that anymore there was a time when the concerns of a man from

01:09:30.700 winchester were largely the concerns of the other men from winchester right it's not the case anymore

01:09:35.580 i've got neighbors who are bonkers i've got one guy down on the road who put up a ukraine flag for six

01:09:40.780 months but his concern his concerns are not my concerns my network of influence of concerns are built up online

01:09:49.740 and they're geographically spread out right so we don't need that link with um uh geography for your

01:09:56.380 national layer anymore i have taken into consideration the local level as well would it not be a goal of

01:10:00.860 anybody who wants to go back to a more wholesome britain or to to push us forward to a more wholesome

01:10:05.820 britain to try to decouple politics from this kind of uh in uh well uh national globalist kind of

01:10:14.860 mindset and say no your concern should be in your local constituency in your that's that's that's what

01:10:20.300 the local level is for right so let me get to it because we're 20 minutes in i haven't got to it yet

01:10:24.140 right so first thing i did is i needed to work out um what i had to work with so basically i took how

01:10:31.820 much we spend on democracy so this is not uh this is not ministers this is not the fun this is not

01:10:37.500 the executive this is purely what we spend on the democracy layer the representation layer at the

01:10:43.500 moment so you're not including the half million civil servants no no all of that is that this is

01:10:47.580 this is purely the democracy layer okay so i added up all the costs um yeah there we go you can check

01:10:54.620 my maths if you want to go for it i'm going to skim through it now blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

01:10:58.700 oh yeah and i did uh i did local as well so basically we're spending uh 1.6 almost 1.7 billion

01:11:05.660 on the democracy layer at the moment and that's purely the like i say the legislative function

01:11:10.700 and that's at least three days of nhs spending yes that that that breaks out to um about about a

01:11:17.020 billion for the national level it's literally one percent of the nhs spending yes so it is quite tiny

01:11:22.380 and um you know about two-thirds of that for the local level so that's that's what i've got to work

01:11:28.060 with to design a new system right so what i'm thinking the nhs costs more a hundred times more

01:11:35.100 this is going to be a three-hour segmentary if you don't let me get through it just finding it

01:11:39.820 for the calculation that is totally true right so um basically what i'm suggesting is that you

01:11:46.540 basically get to allocate your vote to the person you want now i've got my budget for that and i've set

01:11:51.900 up certain tiers i don't have time to go through it but basically i set up certain levels uh office

01:11:56.860 stipend i'm not going to go through that as well again limited time so you get to directly elect

01:12:03.260 your influencer who's going to represent you okay and you pay them per vote so if you've got a local

01:12:09.420 representative you can afford to pay them 14 pounds per vote right and that means that you can have a

01:12:16.220 low level um representative on a particular issue like a local park or hospital or something you can

01:12:21.100 get 500 votes they're a local representative in your local council right and you can afford to pay

01:12:25.900 them 10 grand but if you get 15 000 votes you're up to 200 grand right so this becomes a serious

01:12:32.220 i can get 50 000 votes what do i get well no i'll come to you you'll actually mention later on right

01:12:38.060 so okay but this makes uh being a representative a serious profession yeah and and also it's a very

01:12:44.540 entry-level thing you could have a you could have a retired person who gets into this gets a

01:12:48.300 yeah and and they get a nice little supplement but also a young person coming into this can get

01:12:54.060 into the representation game okay but it scales nicely with the more impact that you have okay

01:13:00.540 now look at it or the look at it on the national level okay so i've i've proposed a smaller minimum

01:13:06.300 there um you know you need to get at least 5000 votes and again what i'm envisaging is not a

01:13:12.620 parliamentary system where you will stand up and get indoctrinated into things you know this can be done

01:13:17.100 digitally it can be done from home offices although in fact i think what would happen

01:13:21.020 a lot of the time is people start to pull together in places like this where they would discuss ideas

01:13:26.300 between them so you wouldn't have political parties you'd have much closer to what influencers do at

01:13:30.380 the moment which they form networks of like-minded people yes you sort of come together but again you

01:13:35.980 know here podcasts perhaps government by podcast says podcasters yes yeah right so and and look you

01:13:43.900 can afford to spend 21 pounds per vote by simply reorganizing the structure so again it's massively

01:13:50.860 attractive you only need 5 000 votes as as a rep under this system and you're earning 350 grand a year

01:13:57.260 you could easily afford to run an office on that and do all the rest of it um but it actually

01:14:02.940 incentivizes you to to make that sort of direct connection right up to and and let's say we because

01:14:07.260 i want i want to limit it because you don't want thousands of them and you probably want to cap it

01:14:12.060 because you want diversity otherwise you just have three mps it'll be jeremy clarkson and andrew tate

01:14:15.740 or something and uh whoever i'd like to see how they come up with policy yes i mean honestly i

01:14:19.820 could think of worse ways of governing right no no i've been thinking this through i'm going to develop

01:14:24.300 this idea i'm just i'm just throwing it out there at the beginning while i'm developing this idea but

01:14:27.660 you know see you get up to 150 000 you're earning almost two million a year as a representative

01:14:32.540 now i think i would put some restrictions in place like no stock trading and stuff and uh regular

01:14:37.740 audits and things like that one of the incentives of paying them a massive wage like that would be

01:14:42.940 a disincentive for actually taking backroom dealings because you're already rich well yes 0.78

01:14:47.900 and because you know there's no incentive to try and do all the lobbying shit although you would 0.74

01:14:53.660 probably you would probably still have to take to put a lot of rules in place because that could

01:14:57.420 just be used for money to do even more backroom well if if you want to sign up for this you're going

01:15:01.980 to get audited um every year and every for 10 years afterwards you know is this a deal that you

01:15:08.300 want to sign up for so um it really incentivizes the the um uh the representative and it links you get

01:15:15.980 it to get to you oh bugger um that's the wrong thing there right now actually this is not wildly

01:15:22.220 out of line because people might say oh we can't it's got the largest electorate yeah so the isle of 0.96

01:15:27.340 white already has a situation where it's got a hundred over a hundred thousand people being

01:15:31.900 represented by one mp and harry do you want to pronounce that for me nope right somewhere in

01:15:38.940 probably wales or something has a constituency with only 20 000 people no isn't that going to be

01:15:44.380 scottish or northern irish maybe oh it's it says western isles so just say the western isles okay

01:15:50.940 somewhere right anyway so some bloody island somewhere has an electorate of 20 000 right so we

01:15:56.380 already have a system where you have widely widely disproportionate except in my system

01:16:00.940 if you've got 150 000 votes you you you are on a weighted basis that's how much you're casting

01:16:07.100 whereas you've got 5 000 if you've got a niche interest you know um trans veganism or something

01:16:13.100 you know there'll be somebody you get selected on that platform you know you're only casting five 0.87

01:16:17.340 5 000 weighted votes when it comes to the system okay all right oh bugger keep pressing the wrong button

01:16:22.940 right here we go so um so then i thought i'd have a look at who would you end up as with mps in this

01:16:30.380 system now this isn't entirely accurate right because it's we don't know all of their followers

01:16:37.180 are british yeah and some of these people overcount so people who follow simon cowell might also follow

01:16:43.660 ricky gervais and so on but it gives you a broad idea is who you could reasonably expect i want piers

01:16:48.940 morgan to have an enormous amount of power in the british government kind of does doesn't he yes

01:16:55.340 and i would take that away from him he andrew takes got more followers than piers morgan don't

01:17:00.300 know why you've got the 4 million he's got 10 million on twitter oh uh okay well okay fine

01:17:06.780 are these just are these just twitter followers that you've taken no i kind of i kind of either went

01:17:11.580 to youtube or twitter whichever one was higher oh okay right but you but how much more interesting

01:17:17.820 would this be as a parliament so simon cowell jk rowley now i don't know whether these people would

01:17:21.980 do because they might just be too busy with their other thing but they don't want to do this and they

01:17:25.020 don't want to sign up to the intrusiveness of the audience and stuff like this right but you you

01:17:28.780 would have a problem that looks more like this jeremy clarkson now the other clever thing about this

01:17:33.020 is because it's capped at 150 000 votes you'd be wasting your vote if you're if actually eight

01:17:39.980 million people voted for for for jeremy clark so you'd incentivize the people to distribute their

01:17:44.620 votes effectively that's interesting now we currently have wasted votes in our current system we have

01:17:49.500 millions of wasted votes in our current system because if you've got two-thirds of votes are wasted yes

01:17:54.460 yeah because if you've got a majority of 15 000 well 14 999 of those wasted if you look at just any

01:18:00.940 constituency like yes the last one it was labor tories reform right yeah and all of those are

01:18:06.700 wasted as well yeah and as well as like lib dams and greens so yeah right so so what the oh bugger

01:18:12.060 keep pushing right andrew tate uh james corden russell brown nigel farage i don't know who ksi is maybe 0.97

01:18:18.700 you don't know who ksi is no clue keep it that way all right okay um bless you carl oh yeah look at me

01:18:24.700 you you you you could you could you could be an mp under this system yep uh tommy he makes it on owen jones

01:18:30.780 so i mean you would have leftists as well yeah jeremy corbyn would be on it jeremy corbyn yes he

01:18:35.020 would be an influence yes um katie hopkins she could be in philip schofield so we've not solved one

01:18:40.940 problem with current government yeah um i put i put nirinda in out of out of order but i just wanted

01:18:47.420 to have her next to lawrence fox because they would they would probably both make it in as well

01:18:51.980 uh paul joseph watson you know we've got campbell back in there

01:18:55.820 oh unfortunately james o'brien would probably be it um don't know who joe wicks is or stacy

01:19:02.140 solomon or holly willoughby i know joe joe wicks is literally a fitness influencer who tells you how

01:19:07.660 to get like 15 minute abs i'd love to see what his policies would be 15 minute abs i don't think so

01:19:13.660 mind you if it's only 15 minutes i'll give it a try and report back um julie hartley brewer um 0.98

01:19:20.300 rupert lowe and i think he would make it back in he's probably one of the very few mps who would make

01:19:24.460 it back in and under this system oh yeah most mps would not make it back in if sorry how many how

01:19:28.940 many followers do you have to have on social media like well uh so basically my system i'm imagining

01:19:33.660 is you'd have some sort of app where you would nominate who your representative is yeah so and

01:19:38.860 then you know is you'd need a minimum of five thousand anything over 150 000 was wasted right right

01:19:44.140 right okay yeah right so if you had something like 300 000 people nominate you you would probably then

01:19:49.420 say to them because you've got an engaged base actually i only need the first 150 why don't you go and

01:19:53.740 support you know buddy harry or dan or something like that you've got 37.7 000 followers oh don't

01:20:00.220 worry just just about no no i'm coming to that oh all right okay all right ash sarkar peter hitchens

01:20:06.780 constantly he would make it as well wouldn't he um dan hodges aaron bastani he would make it in

01:20:11.580 um dominic cummings how much of a better parliament would this be even if it was digital online gary's

01:20:18.060 just a quick thing you could set this up and just have it virtually legislate and you know it

01:20:23.740 wouldn't have any real world effect but it would be an interesting yeah point basically it's like

01:20:28.540 look if you've got i don't think anything would get done in this parliament well no like it wouldn't

01:20:33.820 have the power to do anything but like actually it would be an interesting sort of virtual representation

01:20:38.700 what would they do yes as a parliament if they had the option but these people actually represent what

01:20:44.380 people want yeah yeah these are the people who capture the attention these are the people that

01:20:50.220 speak to the concerns of people is there any reason why this shouldn't be how it works

01:20:55.740 now i don't want ksi in parliament well worse than well some of the tracks we've got there now i don't

01:21:02.540 know yeah i don't want worse than diane abbott i don't want any of them in i might i might have spent a

01:21:08.380 bit too much time on them we have a lot better representation than they do at the moment there

01:21:12.940 we go you get a mention i've only got 37 000 followers i know i rounded to thank you very

01:21:19.100 much there we go both both of us although i don't necessarily agree with the description there dan um

01:21:25.260 i think i gave you a pretty good description there anyway so the point this would be such a better way

01:21:30.620 of doing it because you could have a whole so you'd have all of these guys presumably then you'd

01:21:35.420 have a whole bunch of special interests they'd all they'd all vote on there's no reason why

01:21:39.340 you need to meet up in parliament in person anymore you just don't need to operate on that system

01:21:43.900 and the other the other cool thing that it would do as well and this sort of speaks to your point carl

01:21:48.060 um it kind of abolishes political parties yeah you wouldn't need them in this system and you would

01:21:54.700 and they wouldn't work in this system instead you'd have networks like we've got a network that

01:21:58.940 includes like us but you know people like um academic agent and uh ed dutton and a whole bunch more

01:22:04.860 gulf a whole bunch of other people it's kind of a network we don't we don't directly control each

01:22:09.420 other or anything we just we just think along similar lines we'll get together every now and

01:22:13.500 again that's that's what a political party would look like in this system yeah so i think i think

01:22:17.900 that'd be a really nice idea as well because i mean any np can propose a members bill right or you

01:22:23.100 know have it so that any np can propose a bill uh but if it's ideologically i propose the communist bill

01:22:29.260 well you're going to get hopefully a narrow band of people who agree to that right whereas at the

01:22:33.580 moment the labor party are like stamp you know so it's just like okay i don't want that you know

01:22:38.540 we can't have a based bill either because the labor party are like no out yes so what i want to try

01:22:43.020 on is is i'm going to work on this a bit more but my idea is is we need to get to at some point

01:22:50.540 be hammering the political class just like in the 80 the early 1800s they're hammering and saying hang

01:22:55.900 on we can't have rotten boroughs anymore this system parliament needs reform i'm going to work this

01:22:59.980 idea up and i'm going to get everybody talking about it and we're going to start hitting over

01:23:03.580 the next couple of decades parliament and saying you need reform you need to move over to this new

01:23:08.300 system just keep hammering put them on the defensive i need andrew tate in there now yes yes so anyway i

01:23:14.380 think that would work uh let me know in the comments if you've uh spotted any flaws not that you will but

01:23:18.700 or tell me just how great an idea is and uh yes we will move over to this system imminently

01:23:23.420 very interesting yes we'll see we'll see how the government and the country's fares with that

01:23:29.500 let's go to the video there are a couple of progress harry but i think we're getting there

01:23:34.300 it's not a not a terrible idea it's an interesting proposal uh i would like to be paid glee for 20

01:23:39.980 dollars says thank you uh government by podcast and executive order by super chat for max chaos

01:23:45.340 like those streams where people have chaos mods on video games all i'm saying is if the government

01:23:50.460 was exclusively funded by super chats that would be way more democratic than it is yes right be way

01:23:56.380 more democratic and you'd actually be able to put your money where your mouth is and probably get

01:24:01.180 the things that you wanted if it was like literally your elected streamer you know he's like like i've

01:24:06.220 got to do an hour constituency so all mps would just be twitch irl streamers yeah walking around it

01:24:12.700 doesn't have to be irl they could be in the bed they'd be so much asmongold style just like 0.98

01:24:19.180 asmongold is also he's also quite quite a base guy and he needs to clean his room yeah sure he

01:24:27.580 needs to clean his room but like otherwise you know asmongold seems fine and like yeah he seems 0.78

01:24:32.140 like a fine guy yeah actually somebody did spot a fairpoint scanline said how quickly before it's

01:24:36.460 run by only fan thoughts that that actually that would be a problem well uh we will have to legislate

01:24:42.220 against thottery and thankfully because we'll have you need to do that before you implement the system yes

01:24:47.580 oh yeah sure uh but you know anyway who knows what those women would be doing somebody says 1.00

01:24:52.380 government by podcasting the executive order by super chats for the chaos i mean yes legitimately

01:24:57.180 uh dragon lady chris has daniel brokonomics last week mike from hr was insanely good every business

01:25:03.020 management class should be required to watch it yes that is true also all of the other brokonomics are

01:25:07.340 also insanely good and the last russian says the virtual parliament idea sounds genius well thank you

01:25:12.460 uh like they have mock trading apps where you can trade with a pot of 10 000 try and win stocks as a

01:25:18.700 teenager yes i think i think i like your idea of yeah bring it in virtual and then you can prove that

01:25:23.900 this is the superior system and then transition towards it well i think we've got a we've got

01:25:28.540 another great reform act a couple of decades in our future moreover the more you sort of acclimatize

01:25:33.260 people to it and make it an interesting thing to watch the more they're like yeah why isn't it done

01:25:36.380 this way yes the old way will seem archaic but anyway so okay all right let's go through the video

01:25:41.500 comments i know we've got quite a few of these so we'll extend it by maybe five to ten minutes to

01:25:45.260 accommodate harry i ordered islander three before i received islander two you know what that means

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01:26:17.020 these are the kind of sponsorships i appreciate though oh yeah he has got a point that the the

01:26:21.340 islander 2s have been sent out by pete now because we we got just persistently screwed over by the 0.60

01:26:25.980 distributor so we're just manually sending them ourselves much apologies um but he this that's

01:26:31.180 that's perfectly good video comment no no no i was mainly confused as to why you was like

01:26:35.260 about you to begin with oh obviously thank you for trying to save me from studios is bullying honestly

01:26:40.220 the man's a monster nothing should we be charging him a an advertising rate rather than the gold tier

01:26:45.500 well the gold tier is technically the advertising right right if he's if he can put up a video comment

01:26:49.980 then there we go right and if we get one from coca-cola or something that might change dan's already

01:26:54.620 thinking of ways to screw over the gold subscribers now that he's spoken to all of them on the zoom call

01:26:59.660 he's like how can i get more money from you is that the card it is yeah so um did a uh drama

01:27:07.260 which forgotten about cool i think it's called clash of eagles before his disturbingly good role as

01:27:11.820 serjanus in one clavdives patrick stewart appeared as lenin in the 13-part series fall of eagles

01:27:17.500 you know one day the whole of europe will be one vast socialist state dramatizing key moments between

01:27:22.620 1848 and 1918 the series shows the troubling moires of the time and the slow but inevitable march to the

01:27:28.700 ultimate cataclysm of the age i tell you this scheme of yours succeeds but it will become

01:27:36.380 something which germany one day will live to regret i cannot recommend it enough i have seen clips from

01:27:44.060 that pop up of patrick stewart as lenin and it did look excellent so thank you for telling me what the

01:27:48.940 card as well i don't think so i think that's just a a man with a mustache okay fair enough

01:28:07.260 ai has gone too far man like the potential is just incredible though isn't it uh nigel farage he'd be 0.86

01:28:13.180 ha offering a helping hand let me help you get to the shore i don't think farage would do that but

01:28:19.020 that is a nicely put together ai clip most extraordinary day a day which has seen i i've

01:28:26.460 never seen so many white people in one place it's an extraordinary story there are people everywhere

01:28:32.540 there are crowds everywhere

01:28:33.660 right that's me every time i walk into like a rock gig in a big city like manchester yeah i've never

01:28:42.940 seen so many white people in one place

01:28:48.620 so this is actually something that a fan britney john's fellow lotus eater had wanted to send me

01:28:56.380 since the covet years and it has finally finally arrived

01:29:03.020 this is her rendition of a character from one of my novels creature by kaz i mean it's very well made

01:29:16.140 that's very cute i i really really appreciate this form of economy as well right it's not just you

01:29:22.300 know mega corporation has created 30 second hyper you know expensive advert and now proper

01:29:28.140 gather proper it's it's like you know it feels like the sort of village economy of like the middle

01:29:33.180 ages or something where it's just independent uh you know producers and landowners and artisans

01:29:39.820 being like yeah here's the thing that we've done here's the thing look at something

01:29:42.140 our sarah made yeah exactly right and so it's it feels totally wholesome and like i still think

01:29:46.780 we should be charging in whatever we charge ground i told you but i i think that's such a good like

01:29:53.500 step into the future you know this is what this is what the internet really should be for is

01:29:57.500 individuals who are working themselves yes uh like literally like back when you know in 14th

01:30:02.780 century england when the guy's like choosing to labor for himself for the first time rather than

01:30:06.540 being a surf right like it's such a such a wholesome step forward is this another one from

01:30:11.500 i ordered island i think no we've looped i think uh there was another one perhaps samson what's going

01:30:20.060 on we've not run out of video comments have we because you told me we had loads yeah you know

01:30:24.860 i thought there were more you thought there were more oh all right well it's just the same ones on

01:30:28.300 the loop we just okay well we'll go through five minutes of comments on the website then i'll get

01:30:34.220 yes oh okay if you want to i'll do george says all netflix shows are subversive propaganda meant to

01:30:38.860 demoralize you remember cuties well cuties wasn't actually a netflix show it's just netflix were like

01:30:43.660 oh we definitely want that yeah we want the exclusive rights to distribute cp on our platform

01:30:50.940 anyway uh someone online says adolescence is a tumblrina makes up a scenario to get mad at

01:30:57.180 situation given a bunch of funding and then push on to everyone else yeah i mean only by the authors of

01:31:01.580 it like that's their admission but even then i think they're just lying about that well yeah they've

01:31:06.060 given many conflicting stories at first it was inspired by two specific incidents then they say

01:31:11.020 no we made the whole thing up and then stephen graham comes out and says well actually it was

01:31:14.940 inspired by lots of different things so omar's made a good point here gentlemen you should know

01:31:20.220 by now that insult them has nothing to do with sex it's all down to insufficiently caving to the

01:31:25.100 feminine long longhouse yes it is literally that's all it comes down to which is why andrew tate

01:31:30.300 can be held up as an incel icon it's like now andrew takes the complete other way he needs to be

01:31:35.660 less of a degenerate like it's literally the opposite problem um north fc zoomer says well

01:31:42.220 most of europe is just one step away from genocide giving the amount of gang rape all those bloody incels 0.96

01:31:47.180 yeah i mean that literally i mean unironically yeah yeah yeah

01:31:53.100 um jimbo says two-tier kia trying to bring each according to their ability to prison sentencing at

01:31:57.660 least they're honest no this wasn't kia actually and i hate to have to defend kia starmer from the

01:32:02.940 blairite establishment that he then had to have threatened to legislate against this this actually

01:32:08.220 he did come out against this fairly early earlier than farage and so did his justice saying

01:32:13.420 much because he came out against it yesterday yeah exactly after it had been resolved thanks

01:32:18.940 i didn't hear that has kia starmer come out yet uh of against the two-tier uh right

01:32:23.180 yeah right yeah uh and but a lot quicker than farage did yes uh so you know interesting nick says

01:32:30.220 are there new sentencing guidelines an attempt to get uh in front of any vigilantism there's

01:32:34.540 undoubtedly on the way uh no no what this was is an attempt at social justice that was the entire

01:32:39.660 point they want they they honestly from their point of view they think that the brown population

01:32:46.060 heads are just violent and not competent and so they need special treatment because otherwise

01:32:54.220 which is why you need to put them in prison less when they commit violent crimes because yeah

01:32:58.060 otherwise it's an inequality oh right because they're as far as the sentencing council is concerned

01:33:04.780 their propensity for violence puts them in jail more it's like well look man you know i i just think we

01:33:09.820 should all be treated the same i mean he's kind of what prisons for well yeah yeah well there is

01:33:14.220 that um uh colin says multiculturalism has indeed been a success it's doing exactly what it's intended

01:33:19.980 to do yes uh angus says wellington warned us that the great reform act would fundamentally damage the

01:33:25.500 traditional nature of britain we should have listened yeah okay but the it's going to fundamentally

01:33:31.020 damage the traditional rotten borough okay you know it was it was it was our great tradition yes i

01:33:37.660 i i should quickly point out the system i proposed is not my ideal solution i'd probably rather go back

01:33:43.980 to a monarchy or something it's just more i'm saying that is what will happen because it's always those

01:33:51.260 key factors of production that end up governing so i'm just saying that it will happen or something

01:33:56.620 like it not that i think that that's my preferred solution honestly it does sound like an episode of

01:34:01.580 black mirror yes my preferred solution would be me as king or somebody i think you are right the

01:34:07.340 the the productive forces can't be contained by the old order yes that gives rise to the new

01:34:12.540 mode of production so it is inevitable that we get and even if it was only um uh even if the the

01:34:20.460 actual physical working of the system didn't change like the way people are getting their information

01:34:24.460 about who they want to vote for would change so like the the only reason the old system works is

01:34:28.860 because the boomers still watch terrestrial tv yes that's the only reason you're not seeing

01:34:33.660 andrew tates in parliament so so that's that's why i give our current system two more decades because

01:34:38.620 2045 and you were post boomer exactly right and so when no one watches the tv when there's no filter

01:34:43.900 on the information people get you are going to get just wild conspiracy theory types popping up you

01:34:48.940 can get you know the manosphere types you know a proportion of insane feminists so like it and those 1.00

01:34:54.700 guys will capture the attention and the leverage exactly and even if the current system doesn't

01:34:59.340 change the people who go through it will still end up being the massive influences yeah

01:35:06.060 the unbreakable literary litany says it's all right damn we just go military elective monarchy and the

01:35:10.940 problems go away to me i'd be up for that yeah so would i active monarchy so would i but what i'm

01:35:15.500 trying to describe is not what i want to happen what i think will happen because it follows the power

01:35:21.340 dynamic that has always existed and every time there's been a power shift before that has ended up

01:35:26.460 what's happening but i bet the people on the bloody youtube channel they don't they won't

01:35:29.980 realize i'm making that point and they're saying he's not being based off maybe you could ask the

01:35:34.940 edit this little bit into the video yeah so that they're not confused the thing is though it's kind

01:35:40.460 of cringe it's like look i just want my base dictatorship it's okay but that's not gonna last

01:35:43.820 right that's not right but what what you want is the opportunity of a government because the government

01:35:48.620 is for everyone so you have to have a government that does include the lefty subversives but what you

01:35:53.820 want is one that just gives a preponderance towards baseness right like what serves the

01:35:58.540 people's interests and i think if you go direct you will get that exactly because at the moment

01:36:02.540 like essentially they do everything by avoiding the electorate i think the entire point at the

01:36:07.820 moment is gatekeeping because exactly because the electorate like the electorate is way more based

01:36:12.060 than the politics the politics in this country like there isn't a single politician we have got who's

01:36:17.340 in any way like in favor of the death penalty whereas most of the electorate are in favor of the death

01:36:21.980 penalty so on that issue the the electorate is insanely far right compared to our lefty liberal

01:36:28.220 politicians it's like okay yeah but that wouldn't be the case if we had something like this we'd be 0.51

01:36:32.300 hanging nonces every goddamn day it'd be amazing but anyway we're over time so and with that and

01:36:37.740 on hanging nonces i think it's time that we end this episode join us again tomorrow for the podcast 0.95

01:36:43.820 thank you for joining us today take care

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 02, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1134

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