The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1147

00:00:00.000 Hello, everyone. Welcome to the podcast of the Loadseaters for the episode number 1147.

00:00:06.600 I'm joined today by Bo and by Stephen, and we're going to discuss who controls global immigration policy,

00:00:14.660 Pete Hegseth being in trouble again, and also the due process debate regarding the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

00:00:24.080 Also, you may be wondering about us not talking about the Pope.

00:00:28.460 We are not going to talk about the death of the Pope today.

00:00:32.960 I'm sure something will follow in the next few days, so rest in peace to the Pope.

00:00:37.860 We will talk about it.

00:00:39.880 Right, so should we start with the first segment?

00:00:42.220 Yeah, absolutely, and I will say a happy post-Easter to everybody,

00:00:45.840 and I hope you're not too, like, stuffed on chocolate eggs.

00:00:48.120 I know I was with my 12-year-old yesterday, so Easter egg hunts?

00:00:51.780 No, it was just stuffed in the kitchen. It was Easter egg face stuffing.

00:00:55.600 Are you trying to get some from the future in your life?

00:00:58.620 Yeah, I've got to spend some time now trying to run it off, to be honest.

00:01:01.220 But I thought this might be interesting for people.

00:01:03.300 Last week, we had a very interesting discussion about, you know, the numbers coming into Europe and the UK,

00:01:08.500 and how do we actually really physically try and change immigration policy?

00:01:15.260 And what really could we do by law?

00:01:18.060 What could we do by policy?

00:01:19.420 And are there anything that we could do to prepare it?

00:01:22.900 And I think I pointed out very clearly that in the US, under Stephen Miller,

00:01:26.680 they'd worked pretty hard to do so,

00:01:28.520 and we've got a potential strategy that we could do here.

00:01:31.040 But then I thought, well, let's just try and extend this now to the overall bigger picture.

00:01:37.960 If you've got people like ourselves thinking about how we're trying to stop it,

00:01:42.060 slow it down, prevent it from just destroying our nations with huge mass immigration,

00:01:47.620 who is actually on the other side?

00:01:48.940 What's actually happening?

00:01:50.000 Where is it originating?

00:01:51.840 I think most of the audience will recognise that we have a UN Refugee Convention,

00:01:55.900 and most of the people will recognise that we've got huge numbers coming in here.

00:02:01.760 And I'll just quickly go through some.

00:02:04.200 This is Biden's border bust.

00:02:06.500 We know in the United States there was over 8 million migrant encounters nationwide.

00:02:11.160 I think overlay, actually, that's probably...

00:02:12.920 This is an official House government document produced by the House Committee

00:02:19.280 on Oversight and Accountability, and it was a couple of years ago.

00:02:21.460 The actual numbers now have been suggested it's more like 10 to 12 million.

00:02:25.900 240,000 to 350,000 a month.

00:02:29.920 And now under President Trump, that's literally gone down to 6,000-odd,

00:02:35.480 and all of them were captured, detained, and deported.

00:02:39.400 So the border crisis, in essence, was over.

00:02:41.440 But this was what was happening under Biden.

00:02:44.580 In the UK, we've got mass numbers.

00:02:47.200 This is one of the latest ONS figures talking about the census in the UK.

00:02:53.660 And here, they're again talking about there is only around 7.5 million people

00:02:59.760 who'd come in around 2012 to 21.

00:03:02.800 But actually, since then, we know that we've had another million nine

00:03:06.520 that have come in in 22 and 23.

00:03:09.760 So in 10 years, we're looking at around 10 million people

00:03:12.240 that have come into the UK.

00:03:14.560 And that's a huge numbers.

00:03:16.380 Out of an overall population of supposedly something in the ballpark

00:03:19.300 of 70-odd million, isn't it?

00:03:20.820 Yeah, they're saying 67 million.

00:03:23.440 So, you know, percentage-wise, it's even bigger.

00:03:25.720 It's huge.

00:03:26.140 I mean, I think, you know, in our research that we're doing

00:03:28.540 in the centre of migration, we'd probably say we are above 70 million,

00:03:31.980 though, just like you're saying.

00:03:33.440 But the vast numbers of people coming across here

00:03:36.220 is just unsustainable levels of the percentage.

00:03:39.160 We know that.

00:03:40.240 Our audience knows that.

00:03:41.280 The people in Britain know that.

00:03:43.280 And even in Europe, when you're looking at these,

00:03:45.520 this is the World Migration Report,

00:03:48.340 which actually comes from European figures.

00:03:50.420 I was looking over the weekend at some really big European figures,

00:03:55.220 and I'm going to have to try and concentrate on that.

00:03:57.760 But from there, saying from 1990 to 2020,

00:04:01.760 you are looking at around 18 million people that have come in.

00:04:07.140 Sorry.

00:04:08.420 Wait, it's going to have the bigger numbers down there.

00:04:10.340 2.6 million Ukrainians, 5.7 million refugees in total from there.

00:04:17.540 These are the sorts of numbers you're coming through in here.

00:04:20.500 And 17 million people displaced in Europe.

00:04:24.000 So in Europe, they're looking at even bigger numbers,

00:04:26.900 17 million, 38 million.

00:04:28.780 And the one thing I did notice about the European figures,

00:04:32.300 when they talk about 19 million Europe's residing outside the continent,

00:04:36.560 75 million international migrants residing in the region,

00:04:42.440 they don't seem to break them down between legal or illegal.

00:04:44.920 They're just saying this is the vast numbers.

00:04:46.780 So they try and hide the fact that overall,

00:04:50.580 they've got that huge number I see at the top line,

00:04:52.720 87 million international migrants living in Europe in 2020.

00:04:57.480 So US, UK, Europe, mass numbers coming through.

00:05:04.960 And I go, why?

00:05:07.520 We know that we've got huge numbers of statistics all over Europe,

00:05:12.040 the rise of political parties from people saying,

00:05:15.020 we don't want any more.

00:05:16.220 We want a control on it.

00:05:17.300 We want the numbers released.

00:05:18.300 So we go, well, in that case, who's allowing this to happen?

00:05:24.120 Governments, clearly.

00:05:25.460 But is there a bigger picture?

00:05:27.440 Is there really a larger group of individuals

00:05:30.020 who are trying to ensure that this happens all over the West?

00:05:33.760 And my answer to that is absolutely yes.

00:05:36.300 And I begin with these people, the UNHCR, the Refugee Agency.

00:05:41.920 This is one of the largest organizations in the UN.

00:05:45.580 I'm going to show some graphs later,

00:05:47.740 which is about the numbers of organizations in it.

00:05:50.880 The UN Refugee Convention was originally in the 1950s.

00:05:56.840 Pretty sensible document.

00:05:59.160 You know, if people are fleeing torture,

00:06:00.680 and we just looked at what was happening in Germany and in Japan,

00:06:05.720 they said, right, okay, we should protect these people

00:06:08.700 if they're fleeing the Nazis.

00:06:10.220 Let's look after them.

00:06:11.400 And it was a genuine order of saying these were...

00:06:15.580 Big country, we're at war, we're going to try and stop him.

00:06:18.160 And roughly around 11 million people

00:06:19.820 were just transported all across Europe,

00:06:21.920 which is, at a time, we had a massive war.

00:06:25.000 So you can understand why they were created for it,

00:06:28.660 and you can understand the regulations and rules,

00:06:30.660 but the rules are very clear.

00:06:31.960 You don't bring people in just because it's economic reasons.

00:06:34.620 You don't bring people in because they feel like they want to escape.

00:06:37.480 There were very defined elements,

00:06:38.700 and within that was the element that if they are contrary

00:06:41.380 to a nation-state's security, you didn't have to have them either.

00:06:46.120 Compare that to where we are today.

00:06:48.620 But the UN agency is huge,

00:06:51.620 and what it does do, it involves itself across the globe.

00:06:56.820 So here, it organises itself in London,

00:07:02.040 very big offices itself,

00:07:03.940 and all it does is try to create propaganda

00:07:06.640 to be promoted out to its own kind of fiefdom,

00:07:10.900 its client base, the guardians, the independent,

00:07:14.700 those like Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell,

00:07:18.060 who are willing to say that we need to bring in lots more refugees.

00:07:21.880 And you see this is one of their campaigns.

00:07:23.400 It is a campaign that says the Great British Welcome.

00:07:27.740 There's a scene in the Lake District or Scotland

00:07:29.880 or something like that, stories told.

00:07:32.200 And they go, whether singing in Greenwich,

00:07:35.180 bouldering in Liverpool, cooking in Cardiff,

00:07:37.960 we bring a Great British welcome to communities and refugees

00:07:41.360 and asylum seekers who come to thrive together.

00:07:45.480 Look, do any of us really want to offend people

00:07:49.020 who come to this country?

00:07:50.460 No.

00:07:50.700 Do we want to acknowledge they're human beings

00:07:54.500 with lives and families?

00:07:56.180 Yes, as well.

00:07:57.300 So in essence, we're like, yeah, I agree with you.

00:08:01.300 But the principal element of this is to say

00:08:03.580 that every single one of them is just our gentle cook,

00:08:07.200 you know, is our friendly neighbourhood surgeon.

00:08:11.560 And we know that the facts don't point this out at all on that.

00:08:16.580 Would something like the Runnymede Trust be part of this?

00:08:20.380 You know, because they're like explicitly,

00:08:22.180 explicitly say sort of their tagline almost is

00:08:24.760 building a multi-ethnic Britain.

00:08:27.780 Yes.

00:08:28.080 Not multicultural, multi-ethnic.

00:08:29.780 Yeah.

00:08:30.340 So it's explicitly, well, anti-white, isn't it?

00:08:33.620 I mean, it's a zero-sum game.

00:08:35.180 At least in their minds, it is.

00:08:36.660 Well, I think there are many organisations

00:08:38.020 that have moved to this idea that there are so many people

00:08:40.480 of different colours and creeds and religions

00:08:42.040 in this country now that it's actually perfectly acceptable

00:08:44.520 to be anti-white.

00:08:47.560 And the Runnymede Trust is one of those organisations

00:08:49.980 that receives a lot of funding outside

00:08:51.640 and also from big organisations

00:08:53.300 and from big wealthy people

00:08:55.600 that promote this idea, like you see on these pictures,

00:08:58.980 that we're going to promote mass multi-ethnicity.

00:09:02.780 And that's the acceptable format for the future.

00:09:05.720 And I want to come to a line later on where I see this

00:09:08.100 because I believe that the Runnymede Trust,

00:09:09.480 like many others, are part of this mass number

00:09:12.060 of organisations across the globe

00:09:13.920 that are actually trying to spread the message

00:09:16.700 from the top down.

00:09:18.300 And here what I'm trying to say is that the Runnymede

00:09:20.240 is part of organisations in the UK.

00:09:23.180 That's another show where I can show

00:09:24.740 like literally 300 major charities

00:09:26.980 that are receiving funding across from our councils,

00:09:30.040 governments, to spread this message at a local level.

00:09:32.880 And no doubt, if I was talking to someone in France,

00:09:35.580 they'd say the same.

00:09:36.520 And someone in Germany, I'd say the same.

00:09:38.300 So the message is coming down in different ways strategically.

00:09:45.060 And I would say that if you look at the way

00:09:48.340 that the UNHCR also interferes

00:09:51.460 in national government's policies.

00:09:55.300 So here you have the UNHCR attacked Britain

00:09:58.740 when it was talking about

00:10:01.300 these four things on the left.

00:10:06.800 Border Security and Asylum Bill,

00:10:08.980 Nationalities and Borders Act,

00:10:10.520 the Illegal Migration Act,

00:10:11.860 and the Rwanda Asylum Partnership.

00:10:13.720 All of these are policies introduced

00:10:15.400 by the former Conservative Party

00:10:17.280 when they were in government.

00:10:19.020 All of them are attacked

00:10:20.660 in various distinct letters and policies

00:10:22.940 by the UNHCR.

00:10:25.440 So what you see is the UNHCR is there at the top.

00:10:28.440 It's got its mandate of the Refugee Convention.

00:10:33.580 It's got its people working for it.

00:10:35.520 It spreads across the globe.

00:10:37.560 And then it comes in and attacks policy

00:10:39.640 because it doesn't satisfy their desire

00:10:42.400 and their level of interest.

00:10:44.180 It provides money.

00:10:45.840 And then it does a marketing campaign

00:10:47.360 to try and persuade people.

00:10:48.620 That's the UNHCR.

00:10:49.880 The question would be whether this is a front

00:10:52.140 and whether there are people behind the UN

00:10:54.640 for all sorts of reasons.

00:10:57.720 That's, for instance, to my mind,

00:10:58.920 one of the reasons why one of the main pushes

00:11:01.620 for mass migration is some economic arguments

00:11:05.680 which are taken for granted.

00:11:08.600 So one of the good things for an economy to show,

00:11:12.840 for a state to show in order to be able to borrow

00:11:15.600 is that they can give back what they have borrowed.

00:11:20.360 So if they think that increasing migration increases GDP

00:11:24.280 and that helps with a debt-to-GDP ratio

00:11:27.480 and they're considered to be more worthy of,

00:11:30.420 more fiscally responsible.

00:11:32.980 Now we have some extra data that may suggest

00:11:38.000 that people from some places are a net drain on the GDP.

00:11:42.840 So could it be the case that the people behind the UN

00:11:46.860 and the organizations you show

00:11:49.120 are people who are pushing that agenda discriminately?

00:11:52.800 I think that's a great possibility.

00:11:54.480 And I've discussed at length how I'm a great believer

00:11:57.660 that there is an economic group of individuals

00:12:01.000 who are taken by Keynesian views on immigration

00:12:05.480 relating to GDP.

00:12:07.380 And they sit in the Fed, they sit in the World Bank,

00:12:10.600 they sit in the Treasury here.

00:12:13.760 We're great believers that GDP is the gold standard.

00:12:17.400 We must keep increasing that.

00:12:19.360 Amongst our competitors, Britain must be high

00:12:21.400 rather than to Germany or France.

00:12:23.720 And rather than dealing with productivity

00:12:26.900 or improving our lives in other ways,

00:12:29.960 the easiest way is to bring in lots and lots of people

00:12:32.860 because that means lots and lots of people

00:12:34.980 have to buy goods and spend things,

00:12:37.080 irrespective of whether the vast majority of people's

00:12:40.500 overall income is declining.

00:12:42.600 And it also works for what I call the rentier class

00:12:46.480 and the large corporates that we're seeing across the UK,

00:12:49.700 particularly those who are buying up housing to rent.

00:12:53.460 We know private equity companies are buying up houses

00:12:56.860 that are being sold off by people being forced out of the market

00:12:59.920 by government's rules.

00:13:01.660 And what they're doing, they're renting them.

00:13:03.480 And the more people that are here and can't afford a house,

00:13:05.800 the more they rent.

00:13:06.660 So they've got a continual rent of income.

00:13:08.540 So I agree with that.

00:13:09.280 And again, that's an issue.

00:13:10.840 What I'm looking at here is this kind of global

00:13:12.980 managerial administrative elite.

00:13:16.380 And I will come down to some specific,

00:13:18.040 interesting groups at the end.

00:13:19.180 What they certainly don't seem to care about,

00:13:21.760 or even might say proactively are ignoring,

00:13:25.060 is the damage to just the fabric of society.

00:13:27.420 Your society turns from a high trust to a low trust one,

00:13:31.080 that crime goes through the roof, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:13:33.660 I don't seem to, I mean, my question is this,

00:13:36.380 I don't know if he's going to come onto this,

00:13:37.640 but if, again, if we had a government that had the political will,

00:13:42.000 could we just leave this?

00:13:44.080 I mean, retain our seat as a permanent member

00:13:48.560 of the Security Council, but just leave that

00:13:50.940 and make sure that their money doesn't infest our country anymore.

00:13:56.500 Well, we can do, and it's nothing that stops us

00:13:59.240 ever leaving any of these international organizations,

00:14:01.680 just as we don't have to stay in the European Court of Human Rights.

00:14:06.520 It is about political will,

00:14:08.480 and we've seen suggestions of that in the United States.

00:14:12.860 And I think this is probably me trying to look at the US here,

00:14:17.940 on this point here, is...

00:14:20.500 Perhaps not on that.

00:14:25.540 Yeah, this is more about what they show across their images,

00:14:29.760 how they're using their marketing.

00:14:31.700 But I'll come to Amy Pope,

00:14:33.180 who's the current head of the IOM later on.

00:14:37.060 Now, I know why now.

00:14:40.560 What we should have had coming into here is,

00:14:44.960 when you look at the next group of people here,

00:14:49.540 who are important, it's this lot.

00:14:52.320 The IOM, the UN Migration...

00:14:55.860 It's the International Organization for Migration.

00:15:00.280 Now, this is the biggest organization

00:15:02.960 that deals with migration completely.

00:15:05.880 And it is quite shocking when you look at that.

00:15:09.920 The numbers of this,

00:15:11.020 these were formed after the Second World War.

00:15:14.920 I think I'm going to try and read out their statement there,

00:15:17.200 if I can, but I've got a wobbly screen below me.

00:15:20.920 It's coming on my chat thing here.

00:15:23.300 I'm not being very smart.

00:15:25.960 So I apologize.

00:15:26.880 I think I've got it now.

00:15:28.400 So the IOM here

00:15:30.060 was the Intergovernment Committee

00:15:32.600 for the Movement of Migrants of Europe.

00:15:35.100 It was called PICME, born in 1951.

00:15:38.240 And it was born about the chaos of displacement

00:15:40.580 of Western Europe, as we talked about before.

00:15:43.100 It successfully changed its name three times,

00:15:45.780 from the International Committee to Migration,

00:15:48.920 to the International Organization of Migration in 1989.

00:15:54.020 But it did so because it says,

00:15:56.100 in its own words on the website,

00:15:57.400 reflects the organization's transition cover

00:15:59.620 from half a century from a logistics agency

00:16:03.080 to a migration agency.

00:16:06.160 Instead of helping people when they're in trouble,

00:16:09.120 we're now a migration agency.

00:16:10.880 I'm fascinated by that word.

00:16:12.760 What do they mean by that?

00:16:14.640 From its roots of operational logistics,

00:16:17.280 it's broadened its scope to become

00:16:18.560 the leading international agency

00:16:20.580 working for governments and civil society

00:16:22.760 to advance the understanding of migration issues,

00:16:27.220 encourage social and economic development

00:16:29.820 through migration.

00:16:32.680 This lot have gone from wanting to help people,

00:16:35.600 as you see in the Gaza response picture on the right,

00:16:38.760 to saying that we now need to change policy

00:16:41.060 to prove to everybody

00:16:42.400 that international migration works.

00:16:45.340 And it helps your economy.

00:16:47.780 And to that end,

00:16:48.980 they have 22,500 people working for it

00:16:52.220 and a budget of 3.8 billion.

00:16:56.160 3.8 billion.

00:16:59.080 So they're out there,

00:17:00.440 and you can see just on this website here,

00:17:03.020 you look at there,

00:17:03.900 they produce data,

00:17:06.280 they're going,

00:17:07.080 our work and partners and impact.

00:17:09.660 Fascinated by this.

00:17:11.240 Look at this down here,

00:17:12.560 the partners and governments and donors.

00:17:16.140 So governments, obviously,

00:17:17.620 you'll expect to be our partners.

00:17:20.240 And they've got 171,

00:17:22.580 I think, in terms of that.

00:17:24.320 Look at the size of this.

00:17:26.000 This is their meeting room

00:17:27.120 where they just talk about immigration.

00:17:30.900 Imagine 171 in an organization like that

00:17:33.520 with 3.8 billion budget.

00:17:35.240 Do you think they're only turning around

00:17:36.440 and listening to the people say,

00:17:37.740 please don't bring more in?

00:17:39.440 No.

00:17:39.880 So this is ones that they're creating

00:17:42.380 all sorts of issues for us.

00:17:45.660 And it's 175 member states,

00:17:47.460 I was wrong on that.

00:17:49.400 That's most of the world, though.

00:17:50.800 Aren't there only like 190-odd countries

00:17:52.380 in the whole world?

00:17:53.200 Yeah, but it's interesting.

00:17:54.220 So you've got here partners and impact.

00:17:57.520 You've got donors.

00:18:00.700 And then I'll come down to the interesting ones

00:18:02.540 later on.

00:18:04.240 So it works with other donors as well.

00:18:07.820 Not just ourselves.

00:18:08.700 So the European Union is a donor.

00:18:11.320 Not only does it take money

00:18:12.560 from the European Union citizens,

00:18:14.240 it then donates it to this organization

00:18:16.800 who then creates the policies

00:18:18.940 for the European Union,

00:18:20.720 which the European follow.

00:18:22.360 Funding overview.

00:18:23.400 Let's come and look at that.

00:18:24.960 3.5 billion in 2023.

00:18:27.980 Already earmarked 3.4 billion.

00:18:30.140 And that was 23's numbers.

00:18:33.000 You're quite right.

00:18:33.940 It does feel like posting the odd

00:18:35.740 re-migration gif on Twitter.

00:18:39.740 Yeah.

00:18:40.380 It does feel like hissing in the wind a bit.

00:18:44.040 Yes.

00:18:44.320 When you realize you're up against

00:18:45.680 something, a behemoth of this magnitude.

00:18:49.380 Just think of the size of this.

00:18:51.320 What is 3.8 billion?

00:18:52.740 That's quite a big organization.

00:18:54.300 It's quite a hefty chunk of money,

00:18:56.760 to be honest.

00:18:57.560 And there's a private sector element.

00:18:59.980 They have goodwill.

00:19:00.900 I want to get into this internet,

00:19:02.560 into governmental organizations if it comes up.

00:19:04.860 Build a Europa lander for that sort of money.

00:19:07.720 We could go to another world for that kind of money,

00:19:10.160 quite literally.

00:19:11.600 I just find this quite,

00:19:13.680 I've kind of veered off a little bit here.

00:19:15.700 But I wanted to get in here,

00:19:17.420 maybe a little, if it comes in.

00:19:20.080 Because we're going to talk about who's behind this,

00:19:22.520 if it comes in that list.

00:19:23.900 There was a list.

00:19:25.180 Here we are.

00:19:25.680 This is the list.

00:19:27.100 Now, I talked about early on,

00:19:29.000 about the United Nations being big,

00:19:30.800 and the UNHCR being big,

00:19:32.560 and the IOM being even bigger.

00:19:35.440 But on its own panel of organizations

00:19:39.220 that are just, not governments,

00:19:42.320 but helping it,

00:19:43.240 just take a look as I scroll through this.

00:19:45.940 UN Economic Commission for Africa,

00:19:49.680 International Labour Organizations,

00:19:51.700 International Monetary Fund,

00:19:53.520 Joint United Nations Programme on AIDS,

00:19:55.960 Office of the UN Nations Children's Fund.

00:19:58.780 Literally, not only is it getting funding

00:20:01.740 from its own organization,

00:20:02.960 all these organizations,

00:20:04.660 which are all funded by governments globally,

00:20:06.640 are all part of the process.

00:20:08.060 So it's infested across all the UN.

00:20:11.220 When we're talking about global organization,

00:20:13.900 a big BMF with people that we never see,

00:20:16.720 don't speak about, don't know,

00:20:18.320 don't understand us,

00:20:19.520 they're all running these organizations.

00:20:22.140 Don't get a say in electing them.

00:20:23.840 Nope.

00:20:25.960 Going down further,

00:20:27.240 and I might be able to come down,

00:20:28.240 I picked up some odd ones.

00:20:30.940 And I might pick them out if I can on my graph.

00:20:33.820 Look down there,

00:20:34.440 they're the Universal Postal Union.

00:20:37.360 And even further down,

00:20:40.000 oh, is it,

00:20:40.560 it's like,

00:20:41.560 where's it gone there?

00:20:43.060 World Bank.

00:20:44.180 The World Bank, obviously,

00:20:45.680 you know,

00:20:45.980 the Council of Europe,

00:20:47.820 which Council of Europe,

00:20:49.020 we know is looking after legal rules,

00:20:52.120 the ECHO.

00:20:54.180 So they're involved,

00:20:55.140 but coming,

00:20:55.620 and then they even get,

00:20:56.420 even ones like the Manor River Union.

00:20:58.300 But the one that caught my eye

00:20:59.640 was right at the bottom,

00:21:01.180 was the Sovereign Order of Malta.

00:21:05.280 So this is the Universal Postal Union.

00:21:09.100 It's all about post.

00:21:10.980 How come the Postal Union

00:21:12.740 are involved in a big organization

00:21:14.800 that links in with immigration?

00:21:19.320 What are they trying to help them?

00:21:20.720 Facilitate communication, presumably.

00:21:23.100 Is that what they're Jews?

00:21:24.240 They are.

00:21:25.000 Maybe it's just helping them

00:21:26.200 turn around and send the messages.

00:21:27.600 Look, it's all right.

00:21:28.400 It's okay.

00:21:28.920 Come over.

00:21:29.960 And then we get this.

00:21:32.680 Oh, hang on.

00:21:35.380 We might have to click into this then.

00:21:38.800 The Sovereign Order of Malta.

00:21:40.200 I want people to see this.

00:21:41.940 This is the Order of Malta.

00:21:44.480 It comes out of,

00:21:46.020 like me being somebody

00:21:47.080 who loves the Knights Templar

00:21:48.560 and the stories of how

00:21:50.140 our Knights protected

00:21:51.840 the Christian communities

00:21:53.000 against this,

00:21:54.040 against the Muslims

00:21:55.240 and with the historical elements.

00:21:56.880 The Order of Malta

00:21:57.680 was also supposed to be one of them,

00:21:59.060 does it?

00:21:59.900 You can see it.

00:22:00.760 Hospitallers.

00:22:01.700 Like that.

00:22:02.460 Like that.

00:22:03.680 Okay.

00:22:04.860 And they're in it.

00:22:06.140 These people.

00:22:06.940 That's the current leader

00:22:07.860 on the left-hand side.

00:22:09.480 He's a Canadian lawyer.

00:22:10.700 As you could say,

00:22:13.420 all of these people behind them,

00:22:14.920 the historical images of those,

00:22:16.420 and this is the meeting,

00:22:17.580 generally white,

00:22:19.800 super wealthy individuals

00:22:21.260 whose names we don't know about.

00:22:23.820 And you're just trying to look at

00:22:25.240 why is someone like this involved?

00:22:28.440 And I'm going to,

00:22:29.040 Grandmaster there,

00:22:29.740 I went through all the names there.

00:22:31.940 It's called Fryer,

00:22:33.040 but he's John Dunlap.

00:22:34.400 And when I looked him up,

00:22:35.560 John Dunlap was a lawyer from Canada

00:22:37.280 who got involved

00:22:38.600 in some of the biggest law firms

00:22:39.900 in the world.

00:22:41.800 And then if we,

00:22:44.320 the Order of the Governments here,

00:22:48.020 and it might just sound like

00:22:50.020 a small sidestep

00:22:51.240 that we're doing here

00:22:52.160 and I'm picking these people up here.

00:22:54.500 I looked through all of these.

00:22:56.100 Who's ever heard of John Dunlap?

00:22:57.940 No.

00:22:59.120 Why would we think

00:22:59.880 the Order of Malta

00:23:00.600 should be involved

00:23:01.220 in international immigration rules

00:23:02.940 with the IOM?

00:23:04.920 Resumably,

00:23:05.480 you would expect them

00:23:06.200 to be involved

00:23:06.740 for the exact opposite reason

00:23:08.040 because Malta is really close

00:23:09.280 to Africa.

00:23:10.880 It's one of the main stages

00:23:12.120 in the central Mediterranean route

00:23:14.460 and you'd expect them

00:23:15.560 to be against it.

00:23:17.240 Yes.

00:23:18.420 And then I looked,

00:23:19.640 I tried to link in,

00:23:22.020 I don't know

00:23:22.340 whether this will do it now.

00:23:25.340 Hopefully here, yes.

00:23:27.260 I then looked at

00:23:28.040 all these four people

00:23:29.140 who are the top four people

00:23:30.100 on this council.

00:23:31.340 Emmanuel Rousseau

00:23:32.380 is a French senior librarian

00:23:35.540 for the French government

00:23:36.500 but he went through

00:23:37.160 the Ecole system.

00:23:39.920 Ricard Paterno,

00:23:41.120 an Italian lawyer

00:23:42.240 connected

00:23:42.700 to lots of interesting organizations.

00:23:46.840 When you open it up,

00:23:47.440 you read it.

00:23:48.460 Joseph Blotz,

00:23:49.540 a German defense,

00:23:50.920 former defense advisor

00:23:52.220 to the German defense,

00:23:54.020 the German government

00:23:54.880 on defense.

00:23:56.160 You take a look

00:23:56.820 at all of the names

00:23:57.660 when you,

00:23:58.040 and then you've got this,

00:23:59.220 Fabio's Colonia

00:24:00.460 is an Italian,

00:24:01.840 similar sort of thing,

00:24:02.720 Italian government,

00:24:04.440 Italian minister,

00:24:05.960 all of these individuals.

00:24:07.940 But it's the great

00:24:09.020 and the good of the world.

00:24:10.820 But some of them

00:24:11.400 we don't know about.

00:24:13.040 And they're running

00:24:13.960 organizations

00:24:15.500 that are involved

00:24:16.920 with the IOM

00:24:18.520 and the UNHCR

00:24:19.880 developing policy

00:24:21.340 for us.

00:24:22.740 And if I go back,

00:24:24.600 this is where

00:24:25.180 I come to where

00:24:25.940 you were talking about

00:24:26.740 with the Runnymede Trust.

00:24:29.280 This is the

00:24:30.100 Migration Network Hub

00:24:32.160 that's been organized

00:24:33.860 by the IOM.

00:24:36.020 Working better together,

00:24:37.380 it says.

00:24:38.920 The hub brings together

00:24:39.880 UN Network and Migration,

00:24:41.380 all its stakeholders.

00:24:43.160 And when you look

00:24:43.740 through this,

00:24:45.020 it is a massive hub,

00:24:47.060 all these organizations

00:24:48.260 all over the globe,

00:24:50.000 which they're generically

00:24:51.200 sending down

00:24:52.160 their policy statements,

00:24:54.220 their policy ideas,

00:24:56.400 what we should do,

00:24:57.300 how to convince us

00:24:58.600 it works.

00:24:59.920 Look at the numbers.

00:25:01.280 913 major hub organizations

00:25:04.200 across the globe

00:25:05.360 in which they feed in

00:25:07.500 lots of them.

00:25:08.440 I've opened up

00:25:09.420 most of these.

00:25:10.800 They give their

00:25:11.560 policy statements.

00:25:13.020 But interestingly,

00:25:13.860 it comes down

00:25:14.460 to this here.

00:25:16.980 This is some things

00:25:17.900 that they look at.

00:25:18.860 This one.

00:25:19.300 Migrant domestic workers

00:25:20.540 as agents of change.

00:25:23.960 There is an

00:25:25.140 International Migrant

00:25:26.360 Domestic Workers Day

00:25:27.540 coming up on

00:25:28.840 16th of June.

00:25:31.440 Sure there is.

00:25:32.300 Why not?

00:25:32.980 Why not?

00:25:34.000 And what you're going

00:25:34.560 to get,

00:25:35.160 you're going to get hit

00:25:35.920 by lots of images

00:25:36.940 like this

00:25:37.640 of migrants working

00:25:38.920 in domestic sectors

00:25:40.740 all over the globe.

00:25:41.920 And isn't it great?

00:25:42.700 Isn't it wonderful?

00:25:43.760 Isn't it brilliant?

00:25:44.340 So what we're going

00:25:45.080 to do is import

00:25:46.360 a lot of people

00:25:47.360 from all over the world

00:25:48.300 to be our servants.

00:25:49.640 But it's okay

00:25:51.200 because we're going

00:25:52.080 to have a celebratory

00:25:52.940 day for international

00:25:54.280 migrants.

00:25:54.840 Rather than call it

00:25:55.400 Migrant Servant Day,

00:25:56.520 it's Migrant Domestic Day.

00:25:58.280 And we're going to

00:25:59.160 celebrate them

00:26:00.040 for doing that work.

00:26:01.500 Isn't that modern

00:26:02.200 day colonialism?

00:26:04.520 Isn't that a form

00:26:05.420 of colonialism?

00:26:06.200 And why are all

00:26:06.800 these organizations

00:26:08.160 and rich people

00:26:09.600 involved in

00:26:10.580 celebrating this?

00:26:12.640 Deliberately

00:26:13.160 reverse

00:26:13.820 colonializing ourselves.

00:26:15.280 Yeah.

00:26:15.860 Absolutely.

00:26:16.840 And if anyone

00:26:17.800 wants to look at

00:26:18.440 this particular site,

00:26:19.740 they'll see a lot

00:26:20.620 more than just

00:26:22.400 Migrant Day.

00:26:23.680 I mean,

00:26:23.900 and then what happens

00:26:26.180 is they're celebrating

00:26:27.360 them and they're

00:26:28.880 going to convince

00:26:29.400 us all to change.

00:26:30.220 Everybody's heard

00:26:30.880 of the Global Compact

00:26:31.780 for Migration,

00:26:32.520 I should have thought.

00:26:33.460 Anyone is interested

00:26:34.340 in it anyway.

00:26:35.280 But this is the top

00:26:36.300 policy that's gone

00:26:37.820 down to all the

00:26:38.620 countries who've

00:26:39.200 signed up for it,

00:26:40.020 most of those

00:26:40.620 on AOM,

00:26:41.480 which indicates

00:26:42.300 that we've got

00:26:42.900 to have policies

00:26:44.700 on migration

00:26:46.120 and integration

00:26:47.120 to

00:26:48.060 and you look

00:26:50.160 at their words,

00:26:50.780 Migration provides

00:26:51.780 immense opportunity

00:26:52.960 and benefits

00:26:53.560 for migrants,

00:26:54.580 host communities

00:26:55.380 and communities

00:26:56.380 of origin.

00:26:58.160 Oh,

00:26:58.780 does it?

00:26:59.780 Yeah.

00:27:00.340 Does it though?

00:27:01.240 Okay,

00:27:01.620 let's not question

00:27:02.180 that statement.

00:27:02.920 That's right.

00:27:03.580 And it's however,

00:27:04.400 when poorly regulated,

00:27:05.500 it can create

00:27:05.980 significant challenges.

00:27:07.440 So the only way

00:27:08.660 that we're suffering

00:27:10.000 at higher house prices,

00:27:12.060 massive asylum migration,

00:27:13.560 is because we're just

00:27:14.560 regulating ourselves poorly

00:27:16.120 according to the wealthy

00:27:18.020 individuals who are

00:27:19.340 not impacted,

00:27:20.140 but they do get

00:27:20.660 their domestic servants

00:27:21.560 and we give them

00:27:22.060 a nice day.

00:27:23.560 And that is a kind

00:27:24.660 of nonsense that we have.

00:27:26.320 In Europe,

00:27:27.700 that system created

00:27:28.760 the pact on migration

00:27:29.820 asylum.

00:27:30.580 It was behind

00:27:31.340 the big idea

00:27:32.480 that was signed up

00:27:33.360 by many of the

00:27:34.180 European nations.

00:27:35.520 But now under

00:27:36.100 Gert Wilders

00:27:36.740 and the Hungarians,

00:27:37.620 they're fighting back

00:27:38.520 against this.

00:27:39.400 So they look at policy.

00:27:41.120 They look at people.

00:27:42.480 In the United States,

00:27:44.700 they have a massive

00:27:45.680 resettlement team

00:27:46.880 about how to promote

00:27:48.240 resettlement of individuals

00:27:50.060 in the United States.

00:27:51.740 Again,

00:27:52.340 it's all about

00:27:52.900 how good they are.

00:27:53.880 Nothing about

00:27:54.460 what you're going

00:27:54.920 to talk about later.

00:27:56.420 The criminality,

00:27:57.600 the drugs,

00:27:58.920 those people

00:27:59.580 who are stealing

00:28:00.520 for us,

00:28:01.280 murdering,

00:28:01.900 the rape issues

00:28:02.600 that are going on

00:28:03.400 all across Sweden,

00:28:06.160 for example.

00:28:06.960 Never see any

00:28:08.220 of this negativity

00:28:09.220 in it at all.

00:28:10.440 And again,

00:28:11.800 in the UK,

00:28:13.340 if that was the US,

00:28:14.280 this is the UK,

00:28:15.400 the recommendations

00:28:16.120 of government,

00:28:16.800 which I mentioned before,

00:28:18.520 they tell us

00:28:19.140 what we're supposed

00:28:19.700 to think and do.

00:28:21.560 They have the celebratory day,

00:28:22.940 the migrant domestic workers.

00:28:25.660 And then they have

00:28:26.580 the global compact

00:28:27.960 for migration

00:28:28.700 is a youth policy.

00:28:30.840 So it's indoctrination

00:28:31.940 across schools,

00:28:32.860 these documents

00:28:33.480 to go out

00:28:34.020 across schools.

00:28:35.880 And then

00:28:36.640 you take a look

00:28:38.600 at some of the organizations

00:28:39.860 that have done

00:28:40.600 the individuals

00:28:42.080 from Malta.

00:28:43.380 But then

00:28:43.840 this is classic

00:28:44.780 of the individual

00:28:46.040 who is running it.

00:28:47.240 This is Amy Pope.

00:28:48.180 She's American.

00:28:50.120 She is the director

00:28:51.780 general of the IOM.

00:28:53.840 She talks about here

00:28:55.080 with some chap

00:28:55.860 called Steve Inscope

00:28:56.740 as a host

00:28:57.280 about what we see

00:28:58.960 about migration,

00:29:00.360 what's her job,

00:29:01.060 what's her role.

00:29:02.680 And so she's going

00:29:03.380 to take on

00:29:04.020 migration growing

00:29:05.160 across the world

00:29:05.720 becoming increasingly complex.

00:29:07.900 That's what the organization

00:29:08.800 is facing.

00:29:09.900 So is every community

00:29:11.020 almost in the West now.

00:29:12.900 It's becoming more complex.

00:29:15.680 When Mexico sends its people

00:29:17.000 they're not sending

00:29:17.620 their best,

00:29:19.080 she says,

00:29:19.960 democratic elected governments

00:29:21.320 around the world

00:29:21.800 have to reckon

00:29:22.440 with the anxieties

00:29:23.620 that migration brings.

00:29:26.240 Anxieties.

00:29:27.580 Well, how does it feel

00:29:28.980 when that woman

00:29:29.640 went on to the Trump

00:29:30.760 and Trump

00:29:31.240 and talked about

00:29:32.240 how her daughter

00:29:33.180 was brutally raped

00:29:34.700 and murdered?

00:29:35.280 Is that an anxiety?

00:29:37.300 Is that a real fact

00:29:38.660 of the criminality

00:29:39.620 that these people

00:29:40.940 just ignore

00:29:41.780 because it's all about

00:29:42.920 having a nice

00:29:43.560 domestic servants day?

00:29:45.240 And her salary

00:29:46.520 which no doubt

00:29:47.560 will be...

00:29:49.240 Huge.

00:29:49.640 Yeah.

00:29:50.320 Yeah.

00:29:50.880 None of these people

00:29:51.940 who work for the UN

00:29:52.980 are working

00:29:53.460 at the top

00:29:54.240 for less than

00:29:55.340 seven figures.

00:29:57.720 It's one of the things

00:29:58.340 I thought earlier

00:30:00.480 when you were talking

00:30:00.940 about the Knights of Malta

00:30:02.480 or the Hospitallers.

00:30:03.340 I was thinking

00:30:04.860 is it simply

00:30:06.560 that they know

00:30:07.540 there's this

00:30:08.300 reservoir of money

00:30:10.800 and all they've got to do

00:30:12.660 is ignore

00:30:13.680 that it's destroying

00:30:14.620 the West

00:30:15.220 and they get money

00:30:17.760 and they get a big salary

00:30:19.140 and that's all

00:30:21.020 they really care about

00:30:21.920 and they get to look smug

00:30:22.800 on their website

00:30:23.960 and I don't care

00:30:25.940 about the anxiety

00:30:27.140 stroke mass criminality

00:30:29.140 stroke horrors.

00:30:30.700 They get to virtue signal

00:30:33.340 and they get money.

00:30:34.520 Is it as simple as that?

00:30:35.500 I think it is

00:30:35.980 to a certain extent.

00:30:36.920 I think it's genuinely

00:30:38.160 some of them

00:30:38.760 where we're going

00:30:39.160 we do want to help people.

00:30:40.280 I mean all of us

00:30:40.860 want to help people

00:30:41.680 when we see someone

00:30:42.420 who's lying in the street

00:30:43.400 who's drugged up

00:30:45.380 and we think to ourselves

00:30:46.540 it's really not very nice

00:30:47.620 that they're being homeless

00:30:48.400 I want to help them

00:30:49.100 but then you recognise

00:30:50.100 is that person

00:30:50.740 a self-induced alcoholic

00:30:53.540 is a drug taker

00:30:54.680 will I give him the money

00:30:55.360 will he just continue doing that

00:30:56.600 is that the best way

00:30:57.300 of helping them?

00:30:57.840 You know if you see somebody

00:30:59.500 who's poor

00:31:00.540 or a friend in need

00:31:01.600 you want to help them

00:31:02.140 that's a natural instinct

00:31:02.900 from ourselves

00:31:03.480 and I don't think

00:31:04.320 any of us on the right

00:31:05.580 are inhuman to those impacts.

00:31:08.180 What it is

00:31:08.960 is about looking

00:31:09.620 at these individuals

00:31:10.440 they're all very well healed

00:31:11.660 and obviously thinking

00:31:13.200 what do I do

00:31:13.880 to determine

00:31:14.480 self-worth in my life?

00:31:16.720 I can get involved

00:31:17.320 in these organisations

00:31:18.080 but it does a number

00:31:18.900 of things for me

00:31:19.420 one I'm going to get well paid

00:31:20.480 but yeah I can look great

00:31:21.820 at dinner tables

00:31:22.560 see I can salve my conscience

00:31:24.220 because perhaps

00:31:24.880 I was born into

00:31:25.600 a wealthy family

00:31:26.340 and I've not done anything

00:31:27.680 really useful in my life anyway

00:31:29.260 so it salveys that

00:31:31.080 but there's a whole lot of people

00:31:32.000 that just know

00:31:33.020 that they can become part

00:31:34.400 of the immigration industry

00:31:36.300 right down the levels

00:31:38.200 as we said

00:31:39.020 to the migration hub

00:31:41.240 that then leads

00:31:42.380 to 300 organisations

00:31:43.800 across the UK

00:31:44.700 and hundreds more

00:31:45.540 across each part of the world

00:31:46.880 are all sucking on the teat

00:31:48.820 of immigration cash

00:31:51.800 you know

00:31:52.700 and they're not going to lose that

00:31:54.400 if they can help it

00:31:55.660 for themselves

00:31:56.280 and so we have that situation

00:31:58.500 where you've pointed out

00:31:59.820 the UN

00:32:00.880 is funded

00:32:02.480 by our own

00:32:03.620 taxpayers' money

00:32:04.560 or for organisations

00:32:06.340 that we've donated to

00:32:07.940 who feed it

00:32:09.100 to pay out to people

00:32:10.580 who salve their conscience

00:32:12.120 whilst destroying

00:32:13.360 the nations

00:32:14.160 that they live in

00:32:14.960 and as Rome

00:32:16.380 is burning around them

00:32:17.480 they're not really noticing

00:32:18.760 because at least

00:32:19.520 they get to Davos

00:32:20.340 they've still got

00:32:21.840 their villa

00:32:23.120 in Central Plate

00:32:24.320 or something

00:32:24.880 so my point is

00:32:26.320 to show to people

00:32:27.100 here today

00:32:27.740 that when you dig deeper

00:32:29.240 I'm looking at my organisations

00:32:31.040 the Centre for Migration

00:32:32.080 I'd be lucky to get

00:32:32.860 like 25 to 50 grand

00:32:34.100 in a year in a donation

00:32:35.040 how am I supposed

00:32:36.380 to be able to compete

00:32:37.540 or the number of organisations

00:32:39.180 like ourselves

00:32:39.960 when the budget

00:32:40.800 just for research

00:32:42.460 from their IOM

00:32:43.440 is 150 million

00:32:44.680 and they've got

00:32:45.820 equally the same amount

00:32:46.980 of money

00:32:47.280 on communications

00:32:48.100 either something happens

00:32:50.720 between our organisations

00:32:52.720 across the globe

00:32:53.500 that we try to come together

00:32:55.080 to do exactly this

00:32:56.780 to compete against them

00:32:57.900 or we're going to

00:32:59.640 consistently face ourselves

00:33:01.340 up against the BMF

00:33:02.500 that is filled

00:33:03.680 with these people

00:33:04.380 that you see

00:33:05.040 from the Knights

00:33:05.840 to Amy Pope

00:33:07.980 who all sit in these organisations

00:33:09.760 taking your taxpayers' funding

00:33:11.240 yes we might get Trump

00:33:12.800 who turns around

00:33:13.400 and says we want to pull out

00:33:14.380 even here

00:33:15.200 I don't think

00:33:15.680 he will go this far

00:33:16.700 it would be nice

00:33:17.820 to see that he does so

00:33:19.660 and start reducing

00:33:20.980 the money that goes into them

00:33:22.440 I doubt that they will

00:33:23.780 but I wanted the public

00:33:24.860 to understand

00:33:25.620 and the people

00:33:26.380 who are watching this

00:33:27.160 that there is a bigger

00:33:28.460 group of people

00:33:29.180 when they say

00:33:29.720 there's a conspiracy

00:33:30.440 it's actually there

00:33:31.860 they're not even hiding it

00:33:33.380 physically follow the evidence

00:33:35.220 at all time

00:33:35.960 and there you're going to get it

00:33:37.000 literally the definition

00:33:37.880 of a cabal

00:33:38.640 or a conspiracy

00:33:39.360 absolutely

00:33:39.860 under the auspices

00:33:41.960 of being nice

00:33:42.900 and the UN

00:33:43.480 having normal people's

00:33:46.700 good nature

00:33:48.360 weaponised against them

00:33:49.580 and the net result

00:33:51.000 of course

00:33:51.400 is just

00:33:51.940 industrial levels

00:33:53.580 of rape

00:33:54.320 and criminality

00:33:55.100 and murders

00:33:56.040 and endless horrors

00:33:57.860 yeah

00:33:58.240 and the nice people

00:34:00.380 the decent people

00:34:01.360 that are generally

00:34:02.020 trying to flee

00:34:02.840 torture

00:34:03.440 are getting caught up

00:34:04.740 in this

00:34:05.240 because it's no longer

00:34:06.720 about

00:34:07.240 looking after those

00:34:08.740 individuals

00:34:09.360 who generally fall

00:34:10.100 within the right definitions

00:34:11.140 it's about economic

00:34:12.260 migrancy

00:34:12.880 and the use of

00:34:13.880 people smugglers

00:34:14.640 as a long arm

00:34:15.960 for their own

00:34:16.940 indebtedness

00:34:17.760 and creating income

00:34:18.460 for them in the future

00:34:19.280 we have comments

00:34:24.040 I don't have a screen

00:34:25.220 so

00:34:25.580 someone else

00:34:26.760 I don't know

00:34:28.020 Sigilstone17 said

00:34:31.360 so there was a report

00:34:32.440 a report

00:34:33.240 a fiery

00:34:34.320 chasm

00:34:36.240 opened beneath the Vatican

00:34:37.360 and a demon dragged

00:34:38.180 someone into it

00:34:38.980 are they like

00:34:43.680 an arch-lutheran

00:34:44.720 are they

00:34:45.720 are they talking

00:34:46.120 about the pogrom

00:34:46.720 I guess so

00:34:47.440 I think so

00:34:48.160 I think so

00:34:48.920 I guess they're

00:34:50.440 that might be a new

00:34:50.980 Netflix series

00:34:51.840 right

00:34:54.940 should we go to

00:34:55.460 the second segment

00:34:56.240 is it my segment

00:34:56.880 can I have a mouse

00:34:57.960 is this working

00:35:00.140 yeah

00:35:01.100 it is

00:35:01.640 but I was just

00:35:02.120 a bit wobbly on it

00:35:02.920 yeah

00:35:03.160 I think

00:35:03.400 and that's not

00:35:04.500 due to any

00:35:05.380 gin and tonics

00:35:06.140 over the weekend

00:35:06.780 it is really wobbly

00:35:07.920 yeah sure

00:35:10.600 whoops

00:35:11.240 okay

00:35:12.320 alright

00:35:13.940 is that a bit better

00:35:14.680 I can go lower

00:35:16.460 no that's fine

00:35:17.660 that's fine

00:35:17.980 probably

00:35:18.500 you can take it

00:35:20.080 to your face

00:35:20.540 okay

00:35:21.040 when you turn your head

00:35:22.080 okay

00:35:22.660 okay

00:35:24.660 okay so

00:35:25.460 there's been

00:35:26.260 more news

00:35:27.580 on the Pete Hegseth

00:35:29.080 leaking

00:35:29.880 type stories

00:35:31.120 if you remember

00:35:31.680 about a month ago

00:35:32.880 or a few weeks ago

00:35:33.620 there was an issue

00:35:35.340 where

00:35:35.800 Pete Hegseth

00:35:36.980 at the Pentagon

00:35:37.580 had

00:35:38.440 or it wasn't him

00:35:39.780 personally

00:35:40.220 but a group

00:35:41.080 had been made

00:35:41.840 on Signal

00:35:43.020 and accidentally

00:35:45.740 it seems

00:35:46.300 accidentally

00:35:46.960 invited into that group

00:35:49.040 was Jeffrey Goldberg

00:35:50.360 the editor

00:35:50.880 of the Atlantic

00:35:51.660 so

00:35:54.600 we're normally

00:35:57.160 friendly enough

00:35:58.060 to the

00:35:58.960 kind of

00:35:59.260 MAGA movement

00:35:59.780 aren't they

00:36:00.420 the Atlantic

00:36:00.900 I thought

00:36:01.280 they've got

00:36:01.560 some good

00:36:02.280 leanings

00:36:03.440 are they

00:36:03.940 completely opposite

00:36:04.740 it's both

00:36:05.920 generally speaking

00:36:07.480 I think

00:36:07.920 it's

00:36:08.220 hostile

00:36:09.920 I think

00:36:11.020 oh he's a

00:36:11.420 hostile

00:36:11.740 I would say

00:36:12.260 so

00:36:12.500 that's pretty

00:36:12.860 stupid

00:36:13.260 if they were

00:36:14.360 I think

00:36:14.840 if they were

00:36:15.360 pro MAGA

00:36:16.700 they wouldn't

00:36:17.400 have participated

00:36:18.340 in

00:36:18.640 publishing

00:36:19.740 the leak

00:36:20.800 well Goldberg

00:36:21.540 himself was

00:36:22.100 obviously

00:36:22.420 over the moon

00:36:23.200 that he found

00:36:24.000 out

00:36:24.200 of course

00:36:24.580 he would be

00:36:25.020 if he hates them

00:36:25.640 yeah he'd been put

00:36:26.400 in this group

00:36:27.020 and he can then

00:36:27.940 immediately just

00:36:28.640 write a piece

00:36:29.280 about it

00:36:29.820 more hostile

00:36:30.400 yeah I mean

00:36:31.800 I suppose the Atlantic

00:36:32.560 is extremely

00:36:33.240 pro establishment

00:36:34.080 but not

00:36:34.680 MAGA establishment

00:36:35.900 that's what I

00:36:36.840 would say

00:36:37.260 so that happened

00:36:40.200 and there was

00:36:40.540 arguments about

00:36:41.280 whether anything

00:36:41.900 sensitive was

00:36:42.840 leaked or not

00:36:43.580 we can get into

00:36:44.240 that in a moment

00:36:44.820 about whether it

00:36:45.460 was or wasn't

00:36:46.180 and I'll talk a bit

00:36:48.380 more about the

00:36:48.820 original incident

00:36:49.500 in a moment

00:36:50.480 but so in the

00:36:51.220 news today

00:36:51.960 it sort of

00:36:53.320 happened again

00:36:53.980 it seemed like

00:36:54.520 it happened again

00:36:55.260 so the BBC

00:36:56.660 talking about

00:36:58.760 how

00:36:59.480 yeah

00:37:00.740 a second group

00:37:01.640 a second

00:37:02.040 signal chat

00:37:03.540 this time I think

00:37:05.040 it was a slightly

00:37:05.480 smaller group

00:37:06.360 it didn't involve

00:37:07.140 many of the big

00:37:08.500 big hitters

00:37:09.120 like Vance

00:37:09.840 and Rubio

00:37:10.500 nonetheless

00:37:11.320 it seems like

00:37:12.460 Kegsif was caught

00:37:13.400 in inverted commas

00:37:14.480 again whether it's

00:37:15.080 deliberately or not

00:37:16.060 whether it's a type

00:37:16.740 of leak or not

00:37:17.520 we'll talk about

00:37:18.080 in a moment

00:37:18.400 but for a second

00:37:19.500 time he was caught

00:37:20.400 in a chat

00:37:20.640 he included his

00:37:21.620 wife and his

00:37:22.160 brother in it

00:37:22.780 where he was

00:37:23.080 talking about

00:37:23.700 maybe sensitive

00:37:24.820 information

00:37:25.440 maybe not

00:37:26.140 we can get into

00:37:26.580 that in a moment

00:37:27.000 as well

00:37:27.320 so it's just

00:37:28.480 in a new cycle

00:37:29.120 at the moment

00:37:29.500 that a second

00:37:30.080 incident

00:37:30.560 we can see

00:37:32.600 all over the

00:37:34.960 place CNN

00:37:35.520 the Guardian

00:37:36.840 the Independent

00:37:38.560 they're all sort

00:37:39.740 of running with it

00:37:40.600 so there you go

00:37:43.240 accidentally text

00:37:45.320 war plans

00:37:46.060 today we're going

00:37:48.960 to war with Yemen

00:37:49.740 can you just say

00:37:50.640 we're moving

00:37:51.080 35 people

00:37:51.860 across the border

00:37:52.440 there

00:37:52.740 we're going to do

00:37:53.720 tens of dollars

00:37:54.500 of damage

00:37:55.140 in Yemen

00:37:55.620 so okay

00:37:58.860 so let's

00:37:59.960 have a quick

00:38:00.500 recap of what

00:38:01.960 happened

00:38:02.380 originally

00:38:02.940 so in the

00:38:05.300 first one

00:38:05.820 there was

00:38:06.320 quite a lot

00:38:07.120 of really

00:38:08.320 important people

00:38:08.940 in this group

00:38:10.700 right

00:38:11.280 somewhere

00:38:13.880 there's a

00:38:14.300 oh yeah

00:38:14.560 there's a list

00:38:14.960 there you go

00:38:15.340 so Vance

00:38:16.440 was involved

00:38:17.000 John Radcliffe

00:38:17.880 director of CIA

00:38:19.080 if anyone does

00:38:19.600 know

00:38:19.780 Michael Waltz

00:38:21.480 now apparently

00:38:22.440 one of the

00:38:23.240 questions is

00:38:23.640 how did this

00:38:24.160 happen

00:38:24.520 how could it

00:38:25.920 possibly have

00:38:26.440 happened

00:38:26.820 well it seems

00:38:27.440 like it was

00:38:27.860 either Waltz

00:38:28.460 or a junior

00:38:29.200 sort of staffer

00:38:29.980 under him

00:38:30.600 that accidentally

00:38:32.420 somehow

00:38:33.360 accidentally

00:38:35.060 accidentally on

00:38:36.380 purpose

00:38:36.740 included

00:38:38.120 Jeffrey Goldberg

00:38:39.560 so that's the

00:38:40.320 first question

00:38:40.900 the first sort

00:38:42.520 of set of

00:38:43.280 questions is

00:38:44.120 was it truly

00:38:45.040 just an accident

00:38:45.960 yes

00:38:46.560 was it sort

00:38:47.760 of a deliberate

00:38:48.200 I mean in the

00:38:48.820 piece that

00:38:49.480 Goldberg wrote

00:38:50.880 in the Atlantic

00:38:51.480 sort of straight

00:38:52.000 after even he's

00:38:52.720 saying wait

00:38:53.480 was it an

00:38:56.340 accident or have

00:38:56.740 they deliberately

00:38:57.140 done it am I

00:38:57.680 being played

00:38:58.220 here

00:38:58.600 is this like a

00:39:00.340 newer version

00:39:01.220 of leaking

00:39:02.320 things to

00:39:03.060 pretend we've

00:39:03.680 accidentally

00:39:04.120 included him

00:39:05.520 in this group

00:39:05.920 or what's going

00:39:06.420 on here really

00:39:07.000 even he asks

00:39:07.760 that question

00:39:08.620 and in fact

00:39:09.400 he says in

00:39:10.520 the piece

00:39:10.900 he was really

00:39:12.180 sceptical he

00:39:12.720 assumed it was

00:39:13.860 some sort of

00:39:14.440 practical joke

00:39:15.120 or something like

00:39:16.100 that and it

00:39:16.480 took him a while

00:39:17.200 like a few hours

00:39:18.100 or a few days

00:39:18.820 before he realised

00:39:19.780 no this is real

00:39:21.060 it's really Vance

00:39:22.180 and Rubio in here

00:39:23.160 maybe it's a phone

00:39:23.960 call to certain

00:39:24.940 people who went

00:39:25.460 I may or may not

00:39:26.680 have put you on

00:39:27.260 there deliberately

00:39:27.780 or not deliberately

00:39:28.600 to ensure that

00:39:29.320 you thought it

00:39:29.900 might be insecure

00:39:31.240 but perhaps by

00:39:32.160 checking I can now

00:39:32.900 confirm that it

00:39:33.560 was on the list

00:39:34.260 right thanks

00:39:35.220 you do the job

00:39:36.180 so we can get

00:39:36.680 Heskef out

00:39:37.240 yeah so that's

00:39:39.600 the next thing

00:39:40.180 whether it's

00:39:40.700 deliberate or not

00:39:41.660 that you've got to

00:39:42.480 think are there

00:39:44.040 people with this

00:39:44.860 staffer whoever it

00:39:47.080 was who quote

00:39:48.000 unquote accidentally

00:39:48.740 added him it

00:39:50.220 seems like there's

00:39:50.880 some sort of power

00:39:51.680 struggle or

00:39:53.240 shenanigans within

00:39:54.920 the Pentagon

00:39:56.000 to screw with

00:39:57.940 Heskef and just

00:39:58.980 the Trump

00:39:59.280 administration in

00:39:59.980 general

00:40:00.300 no surprise about

00:40:01.960 that absolutely

00:40:02.900 ultimately convinced

00:40:04.440 that's got to

00:40:05.400 happen they lost

00:40:06.140 they lost big time

00:40:07.460 he's moving really

00:40:08.260 quickly across things

00:40:09.340 he's put people in

00:40:10.480 place Heskef was

00:40:11.420 one of them they

00:40:11.940 really wanted out

00:40:12.900 they managed to

00:40:13.900 get someone out

00:40:14.580 recently on the

00:40:15.340 tax side of things

00:40:16.160 in the treasury

00:40:16.740 that they were

00:40:18.360 fearful of

00:40:19.460 they stopped

00:40:20.000 somebody that was

00:40:20.820 going to work

00:40:21.260 with JFK

00:40:22.060 against the big

00:40:24.200 farmers

00:40:24.680 they prevented him

00:40:25.620 getting on

00:40:26.200 but they didn't

00:40:26.940 stop certain

00:40:27.580 people getting

00:40:28.160 and he's one of

00:40:28.820 them so the

00:40:29.580 next stage is

00:40:30.280 how do you

00:40:30.620 start to remove

00:40:31.960 them

00:40:32.260 just think

00:40:33.920 if you look at

00:40:34.660 the Brexit

00:40:35.220 movement the

00:40:35.820 first stage was

00:40:36.800 when Theresa May

00:40:37.440 was in charge

00:40:38.100 who kept her

00:40:39.460 solid on Brexit

00:40:40.920 it was her

00:40:41.940 chief of staff

00:40:42.760 and head of

00:40:43.160 communications

00:40:43.720 who were both

00:40:44.320 massive Brexiteers

00:40:45.420 they were the

00:40:46.440 first to go

00:40:46.940 and they were

00:40:47.840 replaced by

00:40:48.500 Barwell who

00:40:49.960 was a massive

00:40:50.620 Remainer

00:40:51.120 so what they do

00:40:52.580 is one by one

00:40:53.720 start to attack

00:40:54.580 those people

00:40:55.200 around the

00:40:55.780 leader to

00:40:56.820 weaken his

00:40:57.500 resolve in

00:40:58.180 certain areas

00:40:58.820 so I'm no

00:40:59.680 doubt you

00:41:00.600 know call me

00:41:01.720 conspiracy theorist

00:41:02.520 but I'm no

00:41:03.020 doubt this is

00:41:03.860 classic leaking

00:41:04.600 yeah I mean it

00:41:05.840 seems to me

00:41:06.500 well I think it

00:41:07.260 is just the

00:41:07.740 case that

00:41:08.840 you've got

00:41:09.260 sort of

00:41:09.720 within the

00:41:11.460 Pentagon or

00:41:12.200 even within the

00:41:12.960 wider sort of

00:41:13.580 defence establishment

00:41:14.660 in America

00:41:15.380 you've got

00:41:16.520 again a cabal

00:41:18.100 of extremely

00:41:18.800 powerful people

00:41:19.560 and they've got

00:41:20.340 their own

00:41:20.720 interests

00:41:21.300 and their own

00:41:22.220 favourites

00:41:22.900 they didn't like

00:41:24.060 Hegseth

00:41:24.560 well they don't

00:41:25.020 really like Trump

00:41:25.580 but they don't

00:41:26.740 they don't like

00:41:27.720 Hegseth

00:41:28.220 they didn't want

00:41:28.740 him

00:41:28.980 it's often the way

00:41:30.260 when you get a

00:41:30.760 new leader

00:41:31.320 or the new

00:41:31.860 head of a

00:41:32.220 department

00:41:32.640 sometimes the

00:41:34.140 bureaucrats

00:41:35.180 the civil servants

00:41:36.000 the deep state

00:41:37.420 the blob

00:41:37.840 the establishment

00:41:38.320 whatever you want

00:41:38.720 to call it

00:41:39.120 they like them

00:41:39.900 or they don't

00:41:40.400 like them

00:41:40.820 so for example

00:41:41.440 classic example

00:41:42.020 springs to mind

00:41:42.440 when Gordon Brown

00:41:43.280 got into the

00:41:43.800 treasury

00:41:44.120 is quite literally

00:41:45.220 clapped into the

00:41:46.300 building

00:41:46.620 because he was

00:41:47.680 their man

00:41:48.140 he's who they

00:41:48.700 wanted

00:41:48.960 couldn't have

00:41:49.940 agreed more

00:41:50.560 but you then

00:41:51.980 get the opposite

00:41:52.600 you then get

00:41:53.300 someone that

00:41:53.840 the department

00:41:54.700 hates

00:41:55.700 and if they got

00:41:56.880 a choice

00:41:57.220 would never

00:41:57.640 pick in a

00:41:58.020 million years

00:41:58.680 Priti Patel

00:41:59.660 Swela Braverman

00:42:00.620 they didn't get

00:42:01.380 a big clap

00:42:01.880 when they walked

00:42:02.440 I think half of

00:42:03.940 them were still

00:42:04.320 on holiday

00:42:04.700 I think the

00:42:05.660 Pentagon

00:42:06.600 they don't

00:42:07.340 like Hegseth

00:42:07.760 they don't

00:42:08.020 want him

00:42:08.200 so if they

00:42:08.580 can sort of

00:42:09.020 manipulate

00:42:09.460 things

00:42:10.360 to

00:42:11.240 at very

00:42:12.800 least

00:42:13.220 make him

00:42:13.680 look stupid

00:42:14.380 or incompetent

00:42:16.320 or if not

00:42:16.940 force him

00:42:17.380 out entirely

00:42:18.000 I'm not

00:42:19.460 saying that's

00:42:19.920 exactly what

00:42:20.400 happened with

00:42:20.960 this

00:42:21.320 signal app

00:42:22.840 but it's a

00:42:23.980 question to

00:42:24.560 ask

00:42:24.920 is that

00:42:25.340 what's going

00:42:26.920 on

00:42:27.140 on this

00:42:28.140 you've got

00:42:28.480 a list

00:42:28.760 there of

00:42:29.100 people

00:42:29.360 who are

00:42:30.180 on that

00:42:30.560 isn't the

00:42:31.000 question of

00:42:31.480 who's in

00:42:32.240 charge of

00:42:32.680 the list

00:42:33.100 who is

00:42:34.400 the one

00:42:34.900 individual

00:42:35.440 that is

00:42:36.160 responsible

00:42:36.780 for putting

00:42:37.340 names on

00:42:37.860 that list

00:42:38.300 I cannot

00:42:39.100 for a

00:42:39.680 minute

00:42:40.240 imagine

00:42:41.160 that

00:42:41.740 Hegseth

00:42:42.160 was the

00:42:42.740 individual

00:42:43.080 that says

00:42:43.420 hey guys

00:42:43.920 can I just

00:42:44.700 set up a

00:42:45.040 little list

00:42:45.480 and I'll

00:42:45.780 just add

00:42:46.240 you to

00:42:46.540 it

00:42:46.700 no he's

00:42:47.340 going to

00:42:47.520 give it

00:42:47.760 to some

00:42:48.040 junior

00:42:48.540 person

00:42:49.300 to do

00:42:49.880 so

00:42:50.080 and they're

00:42:51.920 the ones

00:42:52.160 who are

00:42:52.340 going to

00:42:52.520 set it

00:42:52.820 up

00:42:53.040 aren't

00:42:53.260 they

00:42:53.400 so what

00:42:54.180 is it

00:42:54.460 that

00:42:54.700 junior

00:42:55.180 did

00:42:55.640 really

00:42:56.880 who are

00:42:57.580 they

00:42:57.800 and why

00:42:58.120 did they

00:42:58.560 bugger up

00:42:59.380 in that

00:42:59.700 specific

00:43:00.080 way

00:43:00.600 absolutely

00:43:01.720 who's

00:43:02.040 behind

00:43:02.360 them

00:43:02.900 and yeah

00:43:03.440 we haven't

00:43:03.980 got all

00:43:04.240 the answers

00:43:04.540 to that

00:43:04.840 detail

00:43:05.080 because

00:43:05.600 Michael

00:43:07.240 just said

00:43:09.260 it wasn't

00:43:10.940 necessarily

00:43:11.260 me

00:43:11.700 but it

00:43:12.540 was probably

00:43:12.940 a junior

00:43:13.240 staffer

00:43:13.620 under me

00:43:13.840 but I

00:43:14.080 take full

00:43:14.500 responsibility

00:43:14.960 the buck

00:43:15.420 stops

00:43:15.660 with me

00:43:16.080 let's move

00:43:17.040 on

00:43:17.160 so that's

00:43:17.520 kind of

00:43:17.940 all we

00:43:18.160 know

00:43:18.320 at this

00:43:18.540 point

00:43:18.740 if they're

00:43:19.680 talking about

00:43:20.140 something

00:43:20.460 that is

00:43:20.860 top secret

00:43:21.520 wouldn't

00:43:21.980 people

00:43:22.320 expect

00:43:23.020 for a

00:43:24.440 junior

00:43:24.660 to not

00:43:25.240 be involved

00:43:25.700 in

00:43:26.000 absolutely

00:43:26.820 wouldn't

00:43:28.140 I mean

00:43:28.480 isn't

00:43:29.120 involving a

00:43:29.840 junior

00:43:30.060 to create

00:43:30.720 such a

00:43:31.320 list

00:43:31.580 a fail

00:43:33.280 on its

00:43:34.520 own

00:43:34.740 if they're

00:43:35.720 talking about

00:43:36.120 top secret

00:43:36.620 information

00:43:37.160 because

00:43:37.460 from my

00:43:38.460 mind

00:43:38.720 the way

00:43:39.280 I see

00:43:39.580 top secret

00:43:40.200 information

00:43:40.800 isn't just

00:43:41.760 given freely

00:43:43.080 to whoever

00:43:43.700 happens to be

00:43:44.380 in the

00:43:44.580 White House

00:43:45.040 yeah

00:43:45.760 so that's

00:43:47.120 the next

00:43:47.400 question to

00:43:48.000 ask

00:43:48.380 I think

00:43:49.200 is

00:43:50.420 okay

00:43:51.160 so how

00:43:51.740 sensitive

00:43:52.160 was the

00:43:52.940 information

00:43:53.480 both in

00:43:54.440 this one

00:43:54.800 and the

00:43:55.520 original

00:43:55.860 incident

00:43:56.480 and in

00:43:57.000 this

00:43:57.160 latest

00:43:57.540 second

00:43:58.280 version

00:43:58.680 because

00:43:59.240 so their

00:44:00.040 detractors

00:44:00.520 are saying

00:44:00.860 you shared

00:44:01.680 sensitive

00:44:02.240 like top

00:44:03.140 secret

00:44:03.600 okay

00:44:04.200 sort of

00:44:04.940 ultra

00:44:06.200 Yemen

00:44:06.980 is close

00:44:07.520 to Oman

00:44:08.220 you know

00:44:08.700 you violated

00:44:09.400 national

00:44:10.000 security

00:44:10.700 and sort

00:44:12.380 of actual

00:44:12.820 operational

00:44:13.520 details

00:44:14.300 Tommy

00:44:15.200 Houthi

00:44:16.120 wears a

00:44:16.840 red cap

00:44:17.400 and he's

00:44:17.920 going to

00:44:18.260 be in

00:44:18.580 Starbucks

00:44:19.140 Houthi

00:44:19.540 village

00:44:19.880 at seven

00:44:20.700 o'clock

00:44:21.120 here are

00:44:21.880 the coordinates

00:44:22.540 fire

00:44:23.460 so the

00:44:26.880 detractors of

00:44:27.520 the Trump

00:44:27.800 administration

00:44:28.320 obviously

00:44:29.000 would say

00:44:29.660 you know

00:44:30.900 extremely

00:44:31.460 sensitive

00:44:31.980 military

00:44:32.700 secrets

00:44:33.420 and

00:44:33.880 intelligence

00:44:34.180 secrets

00:44:34.580 were

00:44:34.880 do we

00:44:35.060 have any

00:44:35.440 clips of

00:44:35.840 what it

00:44:36.060 was

00:44:36.400 has he

00:44:37.020 this

00:44:37.500 journalist

00:44:38.080 did

00:44:38.360 Gold

00:44:38.960 Bloom

00:44:39.420 or Gold

00:44:39.860 Smith

00:44:40.100 or whatever

00:44:40.560 did he

00:44:41.240 actually

00:44:41.460 release

00:44:41.960 what was

00:44:42.560 said

00:44:42.940 small

00:44:44.320 bits and

00:44:45.360 pieces

00:44:45.540 of it

00:44:45.800 yeah

00:44:45.960 yeah

00:44:46.120 they're

00:44:46.280 even

00:44:46.440 screenshots

00:44:47.020 from the

00:44:47.620 actual

00:44:47.900 app

00:44:48.180 and how

00:44:48.780 sensitive

00:44:49.340 are they

00:44:49.680 well

00:44:49.900 in my

00:44:50.620 opinion

00:44:51.000 not

00:44:51.700 not really

00:44:52.460 so that's

00:44:52.860 it

00:44:52.960 so they

00:44:53.500 say it's

00:44:53.840 really

00:44:54.040 sensitive

00:44:54.400 and the

00:44:54.880 Trump

00:44:55.060 administration

00:44:55.500 side

00:44:56.000 insist

00:44:56.900 nothing

00:44:57.460 sensitive

00:44:57.940 was

00:44:58.420 shared

00:45:00.140 okay

00:45:00.980 so from

00:45:01.440 what I

00:45:01.900 have read

00:45:02.600 and what

00:45:02.880 I know

00:45:03.400 and what

00:45:03.700 from what

00:45:04.000 I've

00:45:04.140 looked up

00:45:04.480 it is

00:45:05.180 sort of

00:45:05.860 they're

00:45:06.080 talking

00:45:06.280 they're

00:45:06.480 more

00:45:06.620 talking

00:45:06.860 about

00:45:07.160 policy

00:45:08.040 not

00:45:09.000 sort of

00:45:09.300 actual

00:45:09.580 operational

00:45:10.220 details

00:45:11.000 policy's

00:45:11.680 fine

00:45:11.920 right

00:45:12.600 isn't that

00:45:13.120 what your

00:45:13.380 group's

00:45:13.820 about

00:45:14.200 it's

00:45:14.480 easy

00:45:14.660 to mention

00:45:15.240 a few

00:45:15.560 things

00:45:15.860 to a few

00:45:16.240 people

00:45:16.540 on policy

00:45:17.100 it is

00:45:17.860 still a bit

00:45:18.760 embarrassing

00:45:19.300 I would say

00:45:20.020 because there's

00:45:20.480 that old

00:45:20.820 adage you

00:45:21.300 don't show

00:45:21.840 people how

00:45:22.260 sausages are

00:45:22.780 made

00:45:23.080 don't really

00:45:23.720 show people

00:45:24.120 how policy

00:45:24.740 is formulated

00:45:25.400 because it's

00:45:26.500 kind of

00:45:26.980 tawdry

00:45:27.800 yeah

00:45:28.020 there you go

00:45:29.040 thanks

00:45:29.280 Sam

00:45:29.420 it's put up

00:45:30.160 a few

00:45:30.400 things there

00:45:30.920 where we

00:45:31.420 actually got

00:45:31.840 the screenshots

00:45:32.460 if you think

00:45:33.480 we should

00:45:33.840 do it

00:45:34.180 let's go

00:45:34.720 I just hate

00:45:35.480 bailing

00:45:35.920 Europe out

00:45:36.480 again

00:45:36.900 so what's

00:45:39.560 sensitive about

00:45:40.180 that

00:45:40.520 right

00:45:41.420 I don't see

00:45:42.320 that

00:45:42.560 and it just

00:45:43.020 seems like

00:45:43.520 everything that

00:45:44.360 he's already

00:45:44.700 said

00:45:45.100 sorry

00:45:45.480 is it the

00:45:45.920 only one

00:45:46.520 no no a few

00:45:47.300 other things

00:45:48.000 it's a bit

00:45:48.860 embarrassing

00:45:49.140 fully share

00:45:49.640 your loathing

00:45:50.280 of Europe

00:45:50.760 is that

00:45:51.180 at the bottom

00:45:51.940 yeah

00:45:52.440 yeah well

00:45:53.160 so does an

00:45:54.120 awful lot

00:45:54.460 of people

00:45:54.860 in Europe

00:45:55.880 at the moment

00:45:56.480 so if

00:45:57.900 nothing else

00:45:58.780 if nothing

00:45:59.480 else

00:45:59.840 it is a bit

00:46:00.800 embarrassing

00:46:01.340 because I

00:46:01.960 suppose a bit

00:46:02.520 like the

00:46:02.940 wiki

00:46:03.360 wiki leaks

00:46:04.640 leaks

00:46:05.280 it's just

00:46:06.280 it's just

00:46:06.760 showing what's

00:46:07.620 going on

00:46:07.940 behind the

00:46:08.340 scenes

00:46:08.700 and it

00:46:09.820 what it

00:46:10.140 always boils

00:46:10.860 down to

00:46:11.400 is just

00:46:12.600 normal people

00:46:13.500 who blow

00:46:14.400 their nose

00:46:14.820 and put

00:46:15.060 their trousers

00:46:15.460 on one

00:46:15.820 leg at a

00:46:16.140 time

00:46:16.420 talking

00:46:17.100 among

00:46:17.620 themselves

00:46:18.040 like normal

00:46:18.700 people

00:46:19.080 yeah

00:46:19.580 but they

00:46:19.920 happen to

00:46:20.360 be dealing

00:46:20.720 with massive

00:46:21.440 things

00:46:22.200 yes

00:46:22.720 like massive

00:46:23.380 massive

00:46:23.560 things

00:46:23.780 because

00:46:23.920 loads of

00:46:24.380 people

00:46:24.560 have been

00:46:24.760 killed

00:46:25.020 I mean

00:46:25.300 even in

00:46:25.600 the last

00:46:25.780 few days

00:46:26.240 they did

00:46:26.880 some strikes

00:46:27.360 in Yemen

00:46:28.060 and like

00:46:28.700 170

00:46:29.740 people were

00:46:30.380 killed

00:46:30.600 or wounded

00:46:30.940 or whatever

00:46:31.320 so it's

00:46:32.000 life and death

00:46:32.720 stuff

00:46:33.100 it really is

00:46:33.800 sort of

00:46:34.020 life and death

00:46:34.380 stuff

00:46:34.700 and sort

00:46:35.360 of global

00:46:35.780 politics

00:46:36.440 stuff

00:46:37.420 so it's

00:46:38.780 no joke

00:46:39.380 the only thing

00:46:39.900 I would look

00:46:40.280 down there

00:46:40.680 is actually

00:46:41.060 the last

00:46:41.480 sentence

00:46:41.880 which is

00:46:42.920 often what

00:46:43.240 you say

00:46:43.620 to people

00:46:44.040 in conversations

00:46:44.780 but POTUS

00:46:45.560 still retains

00:46:46.260 24 hours

00:46:47.000 of decision

00:46:47.520 space

00:46:49.080 potentially

00:46:49.700 you know

00:46:50.340 a kind of

00:46:50.920 loose line

00:46:52.020 to say

00:46:52.400 that we've

00:46:52.720 only got

00:46:52.960 24 hours

00:46:53.580 to make

00:46:53.880 this particular

00:46:54.480 decision

00:46:54.980 that's

00:46:55.580 market

00:46:55.880 sensitive

00:46:56.380 it can

00:46:57.680 impact

00:46:58.280 say the

00:46:59.020 stock markets

00:46:59.660 it can

00:46:59.980 impact

00:47:00.360 decision

00:47:01.060 groups

00:47:01.380 who are

00:47:01.580 trying to

00:47:01.820 get ideas

00:47:02.480 through

00:47:02.820 I think

00:47:03.660 something

00:47:03.900 like that

00:47:04.580 could be

00:47:05.060 seen

00:47:05.440 as

00:47:06.300 a

00:47:06.880 division

00:47:07.160 but the

00:47:07.420 rest

00:47:07.700 like you

00:47:08.560 say

00:47:08.700 it's

00:47:08.840 just

00:47:08.960 general

00:47:09.200 conversation

00:47:09.820 isn't it

00:47:10.680 it seems

00:47:11.060 to me

00:47:11.720 and I

00:47:12.220 might be

00:47:12.540 wrong

00:47:12.800 I could

00:47:13.140 be wrong

00:47:13.440 because I

00:47:13.780 wasn't in

00:47:14.460 the group

00:47:14.820 no no

00:47:15.380 no

00:47:15.540 sure

00:47:15.960 have you

00:47:17.160 checked

00:47:17.440 your

00:47:17.620 what's out

00:47:18.100 my official

00:47:18.620 line is

00:47:19.160 that I

00:47:19.360 was not

00:47:19.720 in the

00:47:19.980 group

00:47:20.080 I'm sticking

00:47:21.880 to that

00:47:22.220 line

00:47:22.520 are those

00:47:24.520 black men

00:47:25.620 in hoods

00:47:26.000 coming past

00:47:26.460 them

00:47:26.600 it seems

00:47:30.000 to me

00:47:30.300 that it

00:47:30.600 was a

00:47:31.500 little bit

00:47:31.840 embarrassing

00:47:32.240 but not

00:47:32.680 actually

00:47:33.220 particularly

00:47:34.060 it's not

00:47:34.900 secrets

00:47:35.300 it's not

00:47:35.580 sort of

00:47:35.800 state or

00:47:36.280 military

00:47:36.840 secrets

00:47:37.300 it seems

00:47:37.640 to me

00:47:38.040 yeah

00:47:38.520 okay

00:47:39.760 nonetheless

00:47:40.240 at the

00:47:41.780 very least

00:47:42.360 embarrassing

00:47:42.760 and maybe

00:47:43.480 you could

00:47:43.860 make the

00:47:44.260 argument

00:47:44.600 that it's

00:47:45.480 it is

00:47:46.840 bouldering

00:47:47.380 on

00:47:47.800 okay

00:47:48.300 you know

00:47:49.240 truly

00:47:49.960 truly

00:47:50.220 sensitive

00:47:50.620 information

00:47:51.200 either way

00:47:53.020 I'm sure

00:47:54.020 if the

00:47:54.320 Trump

00:47:54.500 administration

00:47:54.960 could have

00:47:55.460 the time

00:47:55.860 back again

00:47:56.280 they wouldn't

00:47:56.800 let this

00:47:57.240 leak

00:47:57.520 no

00:47:57.900 no

00:47:58.480 okay

00:47:58.920 the next

00:48:01.160 thing

00:48:01.440 sort of

00:48:01.860 question

00:48:02.120 that comes

00:48:02.440 to mind

00:48:02.820 and I

00:48:03.140 think

00:48:03.400 that the

00:48:04.060 other side

00:48:04.900 that the

00:48:05.220 liberals

00:48:05.580 throw at

00:48:06.900 them

00:48:07.120 which I

00:48:07.740 think is

00:48:07.960 actually

00:48:08.240 a fair

00:48:08.960 comment

00:48:09.660 is that

00:48:10.520 weren't we

00:48:11.060 all outraged

00:48:11.780 when Hillary

00:48:12.400 Clinton was

00:48:13.120 found to

00:48:13.500 have her

00:48:13.900 own private

00:48:14.420 server

00:48:14.940 I mean

00:48:15.340 she was at

00:48:15.680 the State

00:48:15.960 Department

00:48:16.300 not the

00:48:16.600 Pentagon

00:48:16.860 but still

00:48:17.580 she was

00:48:18.020 found to

00:48:18.260 have her

00:48:18.460 own private

00:48:18.840 server in

00:48:19.260 her bathroom

00:48:20.080 do you remember

00:48:20.420 that she was

00:48:20.820 sending out

00:48:21.180 emails as

00:48:22.240 the Secretary

00:48:24.340 of State

00:48:24.760 and everyone

00:48:25.500 said well

00:48:25.880 that's not

00:48:26.440 you're not

00:48:26.740 allowed to

00:48:27.120 do that

00:48:27.380 that's

00:48:27.500 against the

00:48:27.920 law

00:48:28.100 like what

00:48:28.580 what do

00:48:29.080 you think

00:48:29.360 you're doing

00:48:29.880 yeah

00:48:30.460 and I

00:48:32.180 absolutely

00:48:33.300 yeah

00:48:33.640 absolutely

00:48:33.960 fair

00:48:34.260 so the

00:48:34.800 next thing

00:48:35.120 is

00:48:35.380 again

00:48:36.640 assuming

00:48:37.300 assume

00:48:37.940 if we're

00:48:38.300 going to

00:48:38.440 assume

00:48:38.960 that this

00:48:39.660 isn't a

00:48:40.060 deliberate

00:48:40.620 ployer

00:48:41.260 from

00:48:41.540 Hexif

00:48:42.120 to leak

00:48:42.860 things in

00:48:43.340 a new

00:48:43.680 way

00:48:44.280 assuming

00:48:44.820 that's not

00:48:45.200 the case

00:48:45.620 then it's

00:48:46.780 sort of

00:48:47.000 the same

00:48:47.280 thing

00:48:47.460 whether they're

00:48:47.800 talking about

00:48:48.080 something

00:48:48.320 particularly

00:48:48.680 sensitive

00:48:49.040 or not

00:48:49.620 it's like

00:48:50.000 why are you

00:48:50.420 using

00:48:50.640 signal

00:48:51.040 why are you

00:48:53.140 using signal

00:48:53.680 like isn't

00:48:54.700 there a

00:48:55.080 proper secure

00:48:56.260 way to

00:48:57.020 communicate

00:48:57.420 between the

00:48:58.420 Secretary of

00:48:58.900 State and the

00:48:59.320 Vice President

00:48:59.800 and the

00:49:00.100 Pentagon

00:49:00.380 why are you

00:49:00.840 using signal

00:49:01.440 well to

00:49:02.200 to me

00:49:02.400 to me

00:49:02.420 that

00:49:02.700 smacks

00:49:03.140 that

00:49:03.420 perhaps

00:49:04.180 they're

00:49:04.460 a little

00:49:04.660 bit

00:49:04.840 concerned

00:49:05.260 of

00:49:05.500 actually

00:49:05.800 being

00:49:06.020 able

00:49:06.200 to

00:49:06.340 use

00:49:06.600 their

00:49:06.760 own

00:49:06.960 intra

00:49:07.320 channels

00:49:07.780 because

00:49:08.720 the

00:49:08.860 NSA

00:49:09.180 CIA

00:49:09.900 FBI

00:49:10.380 whatever

00:49:10.920 already

00:49:11.600 that's

00:49:12.200 already

00:49:12.400 completely

00:49:12.740 corrupted

00:49:13.080 by them

00:49:13.500 that's

00:49:14.160 right

00:49:14.360 so to

00:49:14.900 me

00:49:15.080 it

00:49:15.260 seems

00:49:15.640 that

00:49:15.980 you

00:49:16.180 know

00:49:16.280 we

00:49:16.480 don't

00:49:16.760 want

00:49:17.100 those

00:49:17.680 who

00:49:18.220 are

00:49:18.340 already

00:49:18.580 part

00:49:18.880 of

00:49:19.000 the

00:49:19.120 deep

00:49:19.360 state

00:49:19.740 to

00:49:20.380 be

00:49:20.500 able

00:49:20.620 to

00:49:20.760 identify

00:49:21.340 what

00:49:21.720 we're

00:49:21.900 actually

00:49:22.220 saying

00:49:22.680 the

00:49:22.920 question

00:49:23.300 then

00:49:23.540 to

00:49:23.680 me

00:49:23.840 comes

00:49:24.120 along

00:49:31.440 of

00:49:31.700 a

00:49:31.820 Trump

00:49:32.080 triumph

00:49:32.700 and

00:49:33.420 the

00:49:33.520 ability

00:49:33.840 to

00:49:34.060 make

00:49:34.260 drastic

00:49:35.160 change

00:49:35.660 rapidly

00:49:36.140 which

00:49:36.480 everybody

00:49:36.820 knows

00:49:37.120 needs

00:49:37.420 to

00:49:37.540 be

00:49:37.640 done

00:49:37.880 in

00:49:38.360 a

00:49:38.500 short

00:49:38.720 period

00:49:39.040 of

00:49:39.240 time

00:49:39.460 to

00:49:39.620 have

00:49:39.740 any

00:49:39.920 sustainable

00:49:40.560 opportunity

00:49:41.160 for

00:49:41.440 change

00:49:41.840 who's

00:49:42.460 willing

00:49:42.640 to

00:49:42.800 do

00:49:42.960 that

00:49:43.180 by

00:49:43.440 leaking

00:49:43.960 this

00:49:44.440 and

00:49:45.080 so

00:49:45.340 the

00:49:45.560 question

00:49:45.860 for

00:49:46.040 Trump

00:49:46.340 should

00:49:46.560 be

00:49:46.780 in

00:49:47.080 his

00:49:47.300 chief

00:49:47.540 of

00:49:47.680 staff

00:49:47.900 is

00:49:48.020 not

00:49:48.180 that

00:49:48.340 he

00:49:48.460 should

00:49:49.140 be

00:49:49.300 mullering

00:49:49.820 Pete

00:49:50.420 Hex

00:49:50.820 for

00:49:51.500 this

00:49:51.800 he

00:49:52.420 should

00:49:52.620 be

00:49:52.740 trying

00:49:52.900 to

00:49:53.020 find

00:49:53.220 out

00:49:53.440 who

00:49:53.900 and

00:49:54.060 why

00:49:54.340 who

00:49:55.420 and

00:49:55.580 why

00:49:55.780 included

00:49:56.300 a

00:49:56.540 journalist

00:49:56.860 from

00:49:57.120 the

00:49:57.240 Atlantic

00:49:57.620 not

00:49:57.980 known

00:49:58.380 as

00:49:58.660 you

00:49:58.800 told

00:49:59.220 me

00:49:59.700 quite

00:49:59.920 clearly

00:50:00.240 to

00:50:00.720 be

00:50:00.840 one

00:50:01.000 of

00:50:01.100 our

00:50:01.260 favourites

00:50:01.780 so

00:50:03.220 that's

00:50:04.120 what I

00:50:04.380 would

00:50:04.520 be

00:50:04.680 pursuing

00:50:05.020 quite

00:50:05.360 heavily

00:50:05.700 at

00:50:05.940 this

00:50:06.160 stage

00:50:06.600 and

00:50:07.120 it's

00:50:07.280 also

00:50:07.720 a

00:50:08.500 distraction

00:50:08.960 from

00:50:09.380 the

00:50:09.560 overall

00:50:10.000 picture

00:50:10.420 now

00:50:10.680 he's

00:50:10.880 got

00:50:11.000 to

00:50:11.160 start

00:50:11.400 thinking

00:50:11.660 how

00:50:11.880 am

00:50:12.000 I

00:50:12.100 going

00:50:12.220 to

00:50:12.300 protect

00:50:12.680 Hex

00:50:13.340 against

00:50:14.260 this

00:50:14.560 or

00:50:14.760 Hex

00:50:14.960 Seth

00:50:15.160 isn't

00:50:17.100 it

00:50:17.300 for

00:50:17.900 some

00:50:18.100 reason

00:50:18.240 I'm

00:50:18.420 getting

00:50:18.560 tongue

00:50:19.140 tied

00:50:19.400 wouldn't

00:50:22.240 you say

00:50:22.580 that

00:50:22.780 they've

00:50:23.080 got

00:50:23.260 bigger

00:50:23.600 issues

00:50:24.140 than

00:50:24.540 this

00:50:24.860 and

00:50:25.020 this

00:50:25.200 is

00:50:25.380 an

00:50:25.500 embarrassment

00:50:25.960 but

00:50:26.220 it

00:50:26.340 takes

00:50:26.740 up

00:50:27.120 intellectual

00:50:28.140 time

00:50:28.720 within

00:50:28.960 the

00:50:29.160 White

00:50:29.360 House

00:50:29.620 to

00:50:29.820 deal

00:50:30.000 with

00:50:30.180 it

00:50:30.340 absolutely

00:50:30.900 I'd

00:50:31.780 say

00:50:31.900 at

00:50:32.060 the

00:50:32.180 very

00:50:32.420 minimum

00:50:32.820 it's

00:50:33.080 embarrassing

00:50:33.440 I wanted

00:50:35.000 to add

00:50:35.420 to this

00:50:35.760 that

00:50:36.100 a lot

00:50:37.000 of

00:50:37.160 people

00:50:37.440 are

00:50:37.860 not

00:50:39.380 sufficiently

00:50:39.940 demanding

00:50:40.480 when it

00:50:41.560 comes to

00:50:41.900 the

00:50:42.040 Trump

00:50:42.240 administration

00:50:42.900 I think

00:50:43.660 everyone

00:50:44.040 should

00:50:44.400 because

00:50:44.680 the

00:50:44.860 more

00:50:45.040 demanding

00:50:45.480 people

00:50:46.160 are

00:50:46.480 the

00:50:47.040 more

00:50:47.240 professional

00:50:47.740 they're

00:50:48.080 going

00:50:48.200 to be

00:50:48.460 the

00:50:48.880 less

00:50:49.120 time

00:50:49.360 is

00:50:49.480 going

00:50:49.600 to

00:50:49.660 be

00:50:49.760 lost

00:50:50.020 in

00:50:50.220 nonsense

00:50:51.020 yes

00:50:51.580 I think

00:50:52.440 some

00:50:52.620 chief

00:50:53.280 of

00:50:53.400 staff

00:50:53.620 I

00:50:53.760 imagine

00:50:54.100 would

00:50:54.280 be

00:50:54.420 absolutely

00:50:54.900 apoplectic

00:50:55.600 about

00:50:55.940 this

00:50:56.180 because

00:50:56.340 she's

00:50:56.660 been

00:50:57.080 very

00:50:57.340 strong

00:50:57.780 in

00:50:57.940 being

00:50:58.040 able

00:50:58.200 to

00:50:58.360 get

00:50:58.520 him

00:50:58.740 there

00:50:58.960 and

00:50:59.500 in

00:51:00.060 order

00:51:00.320 to

00:51:00.580 ensure

00:51:01.020 that

00:51:01.340 this

00:51:01.600 continues

00:51:02.260 she's

00:51:02.940 going

00:51:03.020 to have

00:51:03.200 to get

00:51:03.400 a

00:51:03.500 grip

00:51:03.660 on

00:51:03.860 this

00:51:04.080 so

00:51:04.260 she's

00:51:04.540 one

00:51:04.700 of

00:51:04.780 the

00:51:04.800 most

00:51:04.940 powerful

00:51:05.200 people

00:51:05.580 but

00:51:05.960 you

00:51:06.060 said

00:51:06.260 that

00:51:06.440 they've

00:51:06.960 done

00:51:07.120 it

00:51:07.240 again

00:51:07.600 yeah

00:51:08.140 apparently

00:51:08.740 he made

00:51:09.400 a new

00:51:09.780 group

00:51:10.120 an

00:51:11.060 entirely

00:51:11.480 new

00:51:11.880 group

00:51:12.300 on

00:51:12.900 signal

00:51:13.300 with

00:51:14.700 his

00:51:15.000 brother

00:51:15.340 and

00:51:15.520 his

00:51:15.700 wife

00:51:16.080 in

00:51:16.580 it

00:51:16.800 right

00:51:17.200 where

00:51:17.480 he

00:51:17.660 was

00:51:17.880 talking

00:51:18.220 about

00:51:18.660 again

00:51:19.100 not

00:51:19.300 necessarily

00:51:19.640 sort of

00:51:19.940 actual

00:51:20.280 military

00:51:20.820 secrets

00:51:21.560 sort of

00:51:22.380 like the

00:51:22.600 coordinates

00:51:23.000 of the

00:51:23.340 nuclear

00:51:23.540 submarines

00:51:24.040 or anything

00:51:24.380 but

00:51:24.760 but still

00:51:25.600 just

00:51:25.800 talking

00:51:26.080 about

00:51:26.520 Pentagon

00:51:27.460 business

00:51:28.000 okay

00:51:28.720 with them

00:51:29.360 it sounds

00:51:29.720 like

00:51:29.900 reforming

00:51:30.360 the

00:51:30.480 band

00:51:30.800 but

00:51:31.980 lesser

00:51:32.460 players

00:51:32.880 in

00:51:33.060 it

00:51:33.400 because

00:51:33.760 his

00:51:33.920 brother

00:51:34.160 and

00:51:34.320 his

00:51:34.440 wife

00:51:34.660 aren't

00:51:35.600 sort

00:51:35.820 of

00:51:35.920 cleared

00:51:36.300 no

00:51:36.940 right

00:51:37.680 so

00:51:38.040 no

00:51:38.420 but

00:51:39.060 leaking

00:51:39.420 is

00:51:39.900 obviously

00:51:40.380 as old

00:51:41.120 as time

00:51:41.480 almost

00:51:41.780 I mean

00:51:42.020 the thing

00:51:42.300 that springs

00:51:42.740 to mind

00:51:43.080 when I

00:51:43.340 was

00:51:43.580 when it

00:51:44.080 first

00:51:44.320 happened

00:51:44.740 and

00:51:45.400 now

00:51:45.620 today

00:51:45.940 when this

00:51:46.320 is

00:51:46.620 in

00:51:46.880 the

00:51:46.960 new

00:51:47.100 cycle

00:51:47.320 again

00:51:47.540 the thing

00:51:48.020 that

00:51:48.600 kept

00:51:49.060 springing

00:51:49.360 to my

00:51:49.680 mind

00:51:49.940 was

00:51:50.240 during

00:51:50.900 the

00:51:51.120 Nixon

00:51:51.460 era

00:51:51.940 and

00:51:53.300 where

00:51:55.940 they

00:51:56.220 had

00:51:56.440 he had

00:51:56.800 a

00:51:56.940 massive

00:51:57.200 problem

00:51:57.600 in

00:51:57.860 Vietnam

00:51:58.120 obviously

00:51:58.500 they had

00:51:59.140 a

00:51:59.260 massive

00:51:59.500 problem

00:51:59.780 with

00:52:00.000 leaking

00:52:00.380 the

00:52:00.580 Pentagon

00:52:00.860 papers

00:52:01.440 and

00:52:02.020 all

00:52:02.140 that

00:52:02.300 sort

00:52:02.480 of

00:52:02.580 thing

00:52:02.760 and

00:52:02.980 again

00:52:03.400 the

00:52:03.560 state

00:52:03.780 department

00:52:04.180 leaking

00:52:04.500 like a

00:52:04.820 sieve

00:52:05.080 or

00:52:05.300 even

00:52:05.620 go back

00:52:05.940 even further

00:52:06.620 even

00:52:07.040 sort of

00:52:07.400 the

00:52:07.500 red

00:52:07.680 scare

00:52:08.020 stuff

00:52:08.500 in the

00:52:09.040 40s

00:52:09.720 and 50s

00:52:10.220 and things

00:52:10.540 it's very

00:52:11.800 very difficult

00:52:12.420 to have

00:52:12.940 an entirely

00:52:14.080 tight ship

00:52:14.840 where there

00:52:15.100 isn't a

00:52:15.380 single leak

00:52:15.980 ever

00:52:16.500 when you're

00:52:17.260 dealing with

00:52:17.660 a giant

00:52:18.100 establishment

00:52:18.480 with

00:52:18.840 tens of

00:52:19.860 thousands

00:52:20.220 maybe even

00:52:20.620 hundreds of

00:52:21.020 thousands

00:52:21.240 of people

00:52:21.600 involved

00:52:22.120 and

00:52:23.220 you can't

00:52:23.940 you sort

00:52:24.300 of can't

00:52:24.880 guarantee

00:52:25.300 that there

00:52:26.340 isn't

00:52:27.220 a mole

00:52:27.980 or some

00:52:28.340 sort of

00:52:28.560 fifth columnist

00:52:29.160 in your

00:52:29.580 organisation

00:52:30.080 well I

00:52:30.900 think what

00:52:31.660 you're

00:52:31.820 going is

00:52:32.200 and you're

00:52:32.440 pointing on

00:52:32.900 that

00:52:33.080 leaks have

00:52:33.600 been

00:52:33.820 very very

00:52:34.560 prevalent

00:52:34.940 but during

00:52:35.820 the period

00:52:36.220 of John

00:52:36.560 Major

00:52:36.920 the whole

00:52:37.800 of his

00:52:38.140 time

00:52:38.520 was just

00:52:39.600 covered by

00:52:40.160 leak

00:52:40.460 after leak

00:52:40.940 that's how

00:52:41.400 Gordon Brown

00:52:41.880 became so

00:52:42.400 successful

00:52:42.940 he became

00:52:43.880 the leak

00:52:44.200 champion

00:52:44.660 everyone in

00:52:45.180 the press

00:52:46.480 recognised him

00:52:47.380 as the Man

00:52:48.320 United of

00:52:48.960 leaks at the

00:52:49.640 time

00:52:49.900 and Jack

00:52:50.800 Straw as

00:52:51.380 Liverpool

00:52:52.100 because they

00:52:53.420 used to

00:52:53.880 have the

00:52:54.300 whole of

00:52:54.760 the civil

00:52:55.100 service

00:52:55.520 and I

00:52:55.760 read recently

00:52:56.220 reading a

00:52:57.060 book about

00:52:57.520 leaks on

00:52:58.420 that era

00:52:58.800 one of the

00:52:59.160 most famous

00:52:59.700 was where

00:53:00.320 there was

00:53:02.340 an ITV

00:53:03.580 interview

00:53:04.160 between

00:53:04.920 John Major

00:53:05.620 where he

00:53:06.560 was talking

00:53:07.080 about how

00:53:07.860 he might

00:53:08.200 lose a

00:53:08.740 vote

00:53:09.000 by the

00:53:10.260 Brexiteers

00:53:11.040 of that

00:53:11.760 day

00:53:12.140 and he

00:53:13.320 called them

00:53:13.900 a whole

00:53:14.320 bunch of

00:53:14.760 bastards

00:53:15.240 to be

00:53:15.980 honest

00:53:16.180 and he

00:53:16.440 called

00:53:16.620 Bastardgate

00:53:17.360 he had

00:53:18.660 fertilised

00:53:19.220 egg gate

00:53:19.660 after that

00:53:20.280 as well

00:53:20.940 things like

00:53:21.880 that

00:53:22.100 but that

00:53:22.740 journalist

00:53:23.180 was a BBC

00:53:23.840 who overheard

00:53:24.480 it and

00:53:24.660 then leaked

00:53:25.080 it to

00:53:26.040 somebody in

00:53:26.640 the New

00:53:26.900 Statesman

00:53:27.400 who leaked

00:53:27.920 it to

00:53:28.240 someone on

00:53:29.000 the Observer

00:53:29.580 and so

00:53:30.560 that was

00:53:31.100 journalists

00:53:31.640 who'd overheard

00:53:32.340 it knowing

00:53:32.780 the rules

00:53:33.260 that they

00:53:33.560 weren't supposed

00:53:33.980 to leak

00:53:34.440 but they

00:53:34.840 did anyway

00:53:35.480 and then

00:53:36.540 he continues

00:53:37.380 to explain

00:53:38.160 how lots

00:53:39.620 and lots

00:53:40.020 of people

00:53:40.340 in the

00:53:40.620 civil service

00:53:41.280 kept on

00:53:42.280 then sending

00:53:42.760 more and

00:53:43.220 more information

00:53:43.840 about Major

00:53:44.500 and all the

00:53:45.100 other ministers

00:53:45.640 because they

00:53:46.920 thought it's

00:53:47.460 better to get

00:53:48.060 the Conservatives

00:53:48.700 out and get

00:53:49.260 Labour in

00:53:49.860 are we in

00:53:50.960 a scenario

00:53:51.380 now where

00:53:52.640 you've got

00:53:53.060 this with

00:53:53.820 Hegseth

00:53:54.320 where they're

00:53:55.640 going to

00:53:55.860 say all

00:53:56.360 those civil

00:53:56.780 servants

00:53:57.140 part of the

00:53:57.520 deep state

00:53:58.040 just don't

00:53:58.840 want to get

00:53:59.300 rid of

00:53:59.540 Trump

00:53:59.840 so they're

00:54:00.600 going to face

00:54:01.200 years and

00:54:01.660 years of

00:54:02.000 leaking

00:54:02.240 I suspect

00:54:04.000 so

00:54:04.340 you'll be

00:54:06.060 on here

00:54:06.360 with another

00:54:06.720 story

00:54:07.160 yeah

00:54:07.740 it's that

00:54:10.120 classic thing

00:54:10.540 we're just

00:54:11.380 going to

00:54:11.640 brief the

00:54:12.180 media

00:54:12.500 you mean

00:54:12.820 leak

00:54:13.120 yes

00:54:13.840 that's what

00:54:14.420 you mean

00:54:14.740 absolutely

00:54:15.800 so I

00:54:18.180 suppose

00:54:18.340 there's quite

00:54:19.740 a few angles

00:54:20.480 we could keep

00:54:21.000 going with this

00:54:21.420 but the time

00:54:21.920 is running

00:54:22.260 out a little

00:54:22.660 bit

00:54:22.920 I suppose

00:54:23.440 one of the

00:54:23.900 last things

00:54:24.780 points of

00:54:26.620 discussion

00:54:27.040 might be

00:54:27.540 is it

00:54:28.860 ever possible

00:54:29.920 in this

00:54:31.240 day and age

00:54:31.860 to have

00:54:32.820 sort of

00:54:33.360 truly secure

00:54:34.440 lines of

00:54:35.160 communication

00:54:35.600 I mean

00:54:35.880 I know

00:54:36.480 that they

00:54:36.940 had things

00:54:38.140 back in

00:54:38.920 the Cold

00:54:39.400 War

00:54:39.760 all sorts

00:54:40.940 of

00:54:41.180 cryptography

00:54:41.940 to try and

00:54:42.440 keep things

00:54:42.840 safe

00:54:43.160 and sort

00:54:43.500 of one

00:54:43.780 use pads

00:54:44.420 and all

00:54:44.920 this stuff

00:54:45.220 back from

00:54:45.480 the 50s

00:54:45.940 back from

00:54:46.320 the golden

00:54:46.980 age of

00:54:47.380 spying

00:54:47.700 and all

00:54:47.900 that sort

00:54:48.160 of thing

00:54:48.340 but they

00:54:49.640 had burn

00:54:51.220 bags

00:54:51.440 even when

00:54:52.000 Obama

00:54:52.720 got Bin

00:54:55.520 Laden killed

00:54:56.160 there's images

00:54:56.640 of them

00:54:57.100 in the

00:54:57.820 situation

00:54:58.240 room I

00:54:58.600 think

00:54:58.780 they have

00:54:59.320 these burn

00:54:59.860 bags

00:55:00.300 you know

00:55:00.940 the idea

00:55:01.280 of that

00:55:01.620 where

00:55:01.840 there's

00:55:02.160 super

00:55:03.120 secret

00:55:04.780 physical

00:55:06.520 bits of

00:55:07.000 paper

00:55:07.300 or whatever

00:55:07.740 it is

00:55:08.040 with orders

00:55:08.560 on

00:55:08.900 or information

00:55:10.020 on

00:55:10.360 and the

00:55:11.900 president

00:55:12.240 or whoever

00:55:12.820 reads it

00:55:14.880 and then

00:55:15.180 immediately

00:55:15.640 burns it

00:55:16.280 and they

00:55:16.940 have a

00:55:17.160 little bag

00:55:17.640 literally

00:55:17.940 a burn

00:55:18.320 bag

00:55:18.560 that you

00:55:18.720 put in

00:55:18.920 so

00:55:19.560 but if

00:55:21.340 you're just

00:55:21.680 going to

00:55:22.140 conduct

00:55:22.620 government

00:55:23.140 through

00:55:23.820 signal

00:55:24.580 what do

00:55:26.080 you expect

00:55:27.080 signals

00:55:28.580 intelligence

00:55:29.260 stuff

00:55:29.540 like the

00:55:29.980 NSA

00:55:30.540 I'm sure

00:55:31.860 the NSA

00:55:32.420 can get

00:55:33.540 into

00:55:33.800 any

00:55:34.380 device

00:55:34.920 I'm sure

00:55:36.640 we know

00:55:37.460 they can

00:55:37.760 we know

00:55:38.020 they can

00:55:38.360 so whether

00:55:39.740 you use

00:55:40.340 some sort

00:55:40.680 of special

00:55:41.060 internal

00:55:41.600 pentagon

00:55:42.220 messaging

00:55:42.680 system

00:55:43.200 or whether

00:55:43.800 you use

00:55:44.200 signal

00:55:44.600 or whatever

00:55:45.640 it is

00:55:46.160 unless you

00:55:46.680 go really

00:55:47.380 really old

00:55:48.000 school

00:55:48.200 with a

00:55:48.500 tiny number

00:55:49.420 of

00:55:49.820 extremely

00:55:50.480 trustworthy

00:55:50.880 people

00:55:51.420 that send

00:55:52.200 around

00:55:52.600 old-fashioned

00:55:53.600 bits of

00:55:54.040 paper

00:55:54.320 and you

00:55:54.880 immediately

00:55:55.240 burn them

00:55:55.900 unless you

00:55:56.540 do things

00:55:56.900 like that

00:55:57.440 someone

00:55:58.860 somewhere

00:55:59.360 is going

00:55:59.680 to be able

00:55:59.940 to if

00:56:00.180 it's GCHQ

00:56:01.080 if it's

00:56:01.520 the Chinese

00:56:02.000 intelligence

00:56:02.420 services

00:56:03.020 the Israeli

00:56:03.500 intelligence

00:56:03.820 services

00:56:04.300 whatever it

00:56:05.080 is the

00:56:05.460 American

00:56:06.060 ones

00:56:06.400 internal

00:56:06.700 ones

00:56:06.960 the FBI

00:56:07.400 how can

00:56:09.600 anything

00:56:09.960 ever really

00:56:10.800 truly be

00:56:11.480 safe

00:56:11.860 I'm not

00:56:13.020 sure if

00:56:13.340 it can

00:56:13.820 anymore

00:56:14.380 no I've

00:56:14.880 got my

00:56:15.340 neighbour

00:56:15.620 he still

00:56:16.340 has

00:56:16.760 homing

00:56:17.660 pigeons

00:56:18.080 behind him

00:56:18.980 so maybe

00:56:19.340 we should

00:56:19.680 be using

00:56:20.080 them

00:56:20.340 but I

00:56:20.600 was talking

00:56:20.980 the other

00:56:21.460 day and

00:56:21.860 he says

00:56:22.140 the biggest

00:56:22.500 danger

00:56:22.840 now

00:56:23.140 is hawks

00:56:24.480 there seems

00:56:25.200 to be more

00:56:25.620 hawks

00:56:26.020 taking out

00:56:26.520 his homing

00:56:27.000 pigeons

00:56:27.320 so maybe

00:56:28.300 Hexsef could

00:56:28.920 look at

00:56:29.640 getting some

00:56:30.400 homing

00:56:30.800 pigeons

00:56:31.740 that are

00:56:32.120 drones

00:56:32.460 so they

00:56:33.300 don't get

00:56:33.620 taken out

00:56:34.080 by hawks

00:56:34.780 get his

00:56:35.620 own speckled

00:56:36.220 jim

00:56:36.740 with a tiny

00:56:40.560 little message

00:56:42.060 on there

00:56:42.500 it might

00:56:43.020 actually not

00:56:43.480 be as

00:56:43.780 quick as

00:56:44.200 signal

00:56:44.500 but it

00:56:44.820 might not

00:56:45.140 get into

00:56:45.520 the

00:56:45.680 newspaper's

00:56:46.240 hands

00:56:46.480 in that

00:56:47.080 way

00:56:47.380 and the

00:56:48.000 NSA

00:56:48.360 get their

00:56:48.920 own fleet

00:56:49.400 of

00:56:49.800 sparrow

00:56:50.240 hawks

00:56:50.560 take them

00:56:51.100 down

00:56:51.400 you know

00:56:52.220 the Chinese

00:56:52.800 intelligence

00:56:53.160 services

00:56:53.660 the burn

00:56:54.600 bag has

00:56:55.020 the messages

00:56:55.500 of how

00:56:55.880 you're going

00:56:56.160 to connect

00:56:56.580 with them

00:56:57.220 we are

00:56:58.640 drifting off

00:56:59.520 but it is

00:57:00.440 you know

00:57:00.920 a kind of

00:57:01.640 sense of

00:57:01.980 humour that

00:57:02.320 we can have

00:57:02.840 about this

00:57:03.260 but it's a

00:57:03.640 very serious

00:57:04.160 topic

00:57:04.580 topic

00:57:04.840 they have to

00:57:06.500 be careful

00:57:06.920 how they're

00:57:07.340 going to

00:57:07.540 communicate

00:57:08.000 in a way

00:57:08.920 that they

00:57:10.280 get the

00:57:10.580 messages

00:57:10.920 across

00:57:11.500 but just

00:57:12.980 have the

00:57:13.360 right people

00:57:13.940 in place

00:57:14.540 who are

00:57:14.800 not going

00:57:15.080 to allow

00:57:15.420 journalists

00:57:15.900 on their

00:57:16.300 lists

00:57:16.720 but do

00:57:19.140 we have

00:57:19.320 it by

00:57:19.560 signal

00:57:19.800 I think

00:57:20.140 everybody

00:57:20.440 should be

00:57:20.820 able to

00:57:21.140 have a

00:57:21.400 communication

00:57:21.920 between

00:57:22.460 you know

00:57:23.380 colleagues

00:57:24.160 if you're

00:57:24.700 in government

00:57:25.940 if Vance

00:57:27.120 wants to

00:57:27.580 talk to

00:57:28.000 Rubio

00:57:28.400 wants to

00:57:28.900 talk to

00:57:29.380 Hexkeff

00:57:30.260 they should

00:57:30.840 be able to

00:57:31.200 talk briefly

00:57:31.960 on something

00:57:32.460 like a

00:57:32.820 whatsapp

00:57:33.220 or a

00:57:33.520 signal

00:57:33.820 but the

00:57:34.960 question

00:57:35.300 they've got

00:57:35.740 to learn

00:57:36.420 from themselves

00:57:37.120 then is

00:57:38.200 how much

00:57:38.580 of that

00:57:39.100 is secret

00:57:40.100 and how much

00:57:40.820 is government

00:57:41.280 and how much

00:57:42.000 is just

00:57:42.380 general chit

00:57:42.980 chat

00:57:43.160 do you fancy

00:57:43.560 coming down

00:57:44.120 you know

00:57:44.940 to the pub

00:57:45.480 after work

00:57:46.320 tonight

00:57:46.740 that would be

00:57:47.540 fine

00:57:47.920 but can you

00:57:48.980 come down

00:57:49.260 to the pub

00:57:49.640 tonight

00:57:49.940 because I've

00:57:50.300 just got the

00:57:50.700 plans on me

00:57:51.300 and the maps

00:57:51.740 that show me

00:57:52.220 where we're

00:57:52.500 going to

00:57:52.700 bomb the

00:57:53.020 hooties

00:57:53.380 I don't

00:57:54.520 think that

00:57:54.840 would be

00:57:55.080 right

00:57:55.380 it just

00:57:56.200 seems to

00:57:56.640 me that

00:57:57.260 in the

00:57:58.640 digital age

00:57:59.460 if you're

00:57:59.800 going to

00:57:59.940 communicate

00:58:00.300 digitally

00:58:00.960 it's sort

00:58:02.900 of never

00:58:03.260 really going

00:58:03.680 to be

00:58:03.880 completely

00:58:04.140 safe

00:58:04.380 I mean

00:58:04.580 I'm really

00:58:05.160 interested

00:58:05.580 in the

00:58:06.840 intelligence

00:58:07.380 game

00:58:08.140 back in

00:58:09.360 World War

00:58:09.660 II

00:58:09.920 and the

00:58:10.380 Cold War

00:58:10.860 things that

00:58:12.440 were done

00:58:12.760 at Bletchley

00:58:13.740 Park

00:58:14.040 and the

00:58:14.300 breaking

00:58:14.520 of all

00:58:14.840 the sorts

00:58:15.180 of codes

00:58:15.680 both the

00:58:16.340 Germans

00:58:16.600 and the

00:58:17.000 Japanese

00:58:17.300 the American

00:58:17.860 versions

00:58:19.040 of Bletchley

00:58:20.340 Park

00:58:20.720 in the

00:58:21.140 Pacific

00:58:21.440 Theatre

00:58:21.860 and all

00:58:22.200 that sort

00:58:22.500 of thing

00:58:22.740 and the

00:58:23.360 breaking

00:58:23.640 of codes

00:58:24.200 and

00:58:24.440 both sides

00:58:27.420 broke each

00:58:27.880 other's codes

00:58:28.480 really early

00:58:29.080 on

00:58:29.380 and we're

00:58:30.680 reading each

00:58:31.200 other's

00:58:31.460 stuff

00:58:31.680 I mean

00:58:31.960 the

00:58:32.500 allies

00:58:32.820 did it

00:58:33.160 much

00:58:33.400 better

00:58:33.700 and quicker

00:58:34.180 and more

00:58:34.640 effectively

00:58:35.000 than the

00:58:36.260 Axis

00:58:36.960 powers

00:58:37.360 but nonetheless

00:58:37.820 it's still

00:58:38.960 basically

00:58:39.300 it's very

00:58:39.740 very difficult

00:58:40.420 to keep

00:58:40.900 anything

00:58:41.180 completely

00:58:41.880 secret

00:58:42.380 among a

00:58:43.320 vast number

00:58:43.820 of people

00:58:44.180 for very

00:58:44.600 long

00:58:45.020 so I

00:58:47.220 just hope

00:58:47.800 and all

00:58:48.980 this is to

00:58:49.460 say unless

00:58:50.200 Hegseth is

00:58:51.520 doing this

00:58:52.000 deliberately

00:58:52.520 he's playing

00:58:53.360 4D chess

00:58:53.960 or something

00:58:54.300 that he

00:58:55.040 wants it

00:58:55.500 to be

00:58:55.740 and I

00:58:56.080 just don't

00:58:56.460 think that's

00:58:57.140 the case

00:58:57.560 because it's

00:58:58.740 a bit

00:58:58.900 embarrassing

00:58:59.300 and it

00:59:00.480 undermines

00:59:00.920 his position

00:59:01.740 with POTUS

00:59:02.420 a little bit

00:59:03.240 it does

00:59:03.860 but you

00:59:04.220 don't want

00:59:04.620 to be

00:59:04.920 if you're

00:59:05.440 the head

00:59:05.820 of a

00:59:06.120 big department

00:59:06.580 you don't

00:59:07.300 want to be

00:59:07.600 the story

00:59:08.140 right

00:59:08.560 yeah but

00:59:09.460 maybe he's

00:59:10.300 doing it

00:59:10.900 so that people

00:59:11.860 underestimate him

00:59:12.960 and that's

00:59:13.940 that could be

00:59:14.660 used as an

00:59:15.200 advantage

00:59:15.640 maybe

00:59:16.000 maybe 4D

00:59:17.500 chess

00:59:17.840 or it's

00:59:19.620 to

00:59:20.080 winkle out

00:59:21.140 the moles

00:59:21.620 you let

00:59:22.700 something get

00:59:23.400 leaked

00:59:23.740 now we're

00:59:24.220 getting

00:59:24.380 deep stories

00:59:25.620 so that you

00:59:26.300 can find out

00:59:27.160 so you can

00:59:27.840 try and find out

00:59:28.440 who's leaking

00:59:29.880 it

00:59:30.220 right

00:59:30.660 or then you

00:59:31.520 get into like

00:59:32.080 the double triple

00:59:32.820 quadruple games

00:59:33.880 yeah

00:59:34.220 5D chess

00:59:35.780 you know

00:59:36.260 yeah

00:59:37.000 that you

00:59:38.480 know

00:59:38.720 AI chess

00:59:39.400 you know

00:59:41.400 you're

00:59:41.660 compromised

00:59:42.140 yeah

00:59:42.940 and so

00:59:45.720 but you

00:59:46.540 don't want

00:59:47.040 them to

00:59:47.640 know that

00:59:48.200 you know

00:59:48.660 you're

00:59:48.860 compromised

00:59:49.180 yeah

00:59:49.640 and you

00:59:50.400 don't want

00:59:50.720 them to

00:59:51.100 know that

00:59:51.360 you know

00:59:51.700 that they

00:59:52.080 know that

00:59:52.520 you know

00:59:52.860 that I

00:59:53.200 know that

00:59:53.700 we know

00:59:54.200 that they

00:59:54.560 know they're

00:59:54.960 compromised

00:59:55.360 yeah

00:59:55.800 and meanwhile

00:59:56.680 everyone knows

00:59:57.320 everyone's compromised

00:59:57.940 chess

00:59:58.180 it's like

00:59:59.600 if you've got

01:00:00.020 intelligence

01:00:00.560 that you

01:00:01.260 know a

01:00:01.660 certain

01:00:01.920 convoy

01:00:02.460 is going

01:00:02.700 to get

01:00:02.900 bombed

01:00:03.640 yes

01:00:04.020 you know

01:00:04.360 it

01:00:04.620 because you've

01:00:05.200 got the

01:00:05.600 intelligence

01:00:05.960 and then you

01:00:07.280 but you can't

01:00:07.920 necessarily act

01:00:08.720 on that

01:00:09.200 because it

01:00:09.640 would let

01:00:09.900 the enemy

01:00:10.320 know that

01:00:10.760 you know

01:00:11.120 yes

01:00:11.720 and then there's

01:00:12.320 no point

01:00:12.700 being able

01:00:13.120 to decipher

01:00:13.680 anything

01:00:14.000 because

01:00:14.560 they'll just

01:00:15.960 change their

01:00:16.480 system

01:00:16.960 anyway

01:00:17.760 it gets into

01:00:18.460 all that

01:00:18.800 sort of

01:00:19.560 fun and

01:00:20.140 games

01:00:20.520 but anyway

01:00:21.540 so Hegseth

01:00:22.200 has apparently

01:00:23.280 accidentally

01:00:24.040 been talking

01:00:25.520 about Pentagon

01:00:26.180 stuff with

01:00:26.680 his wife

01:00:27.540 and brother

01:00:28.240 who don't

01:00:29.460 really have

01:00:29.760 clearance

01:00:30.080 so well

01:00:31.380 watch this

01:00:31.800 space

01:00:31.980 it may

01:00:32.240 happen

01:00:32.480 again

01:00:32.640 it may

01:00:32.840 not

01:00:32.980 I assume

01:00:33.800 if I had

01:00:34.060 to make

01:00:34.360 a prediction

01:00:35.420 yeah

01:00:36.860 there's so

01:00:37.320 many forces

01:00:37.840 ranged against

01:00:38.980 MAGA

01:00:39.460 yeah

01:00:40.040 that this

01:00:41.280 stuff is

01:00:41.860 going to keep

01:00:42.200 happening

01:00:42.500 yeah

01:00:42.900 I'm pretty

01:00:43.840 certain this

01:00:44.300 is going to

01:00:44.640 happen

01:00:44.880 and it's

01:00:45.260 how Trump

01:00:46.080 deals with

01:00:46.600 it and his

01:00:46.940 team deal

01:00:47.480 with it

01:00:47.760 and recognize

01:00:48.300 it and tell

01:00:48.880 his team

01:00:49.380 how to make

01:00:50.780 it work

01:00:51.180 right so

01:00:53.460 do we have

01:00:54.180 some

01:00:54.620 good comments

01:00:56.260 there

01:00:56.540 yeah

01:00:57.400 Slickystone

01:00:58.140 17 again

01:00:59.040 said

01:00:59.360 sir a second

01:01:00.680 signal chat

01:01:01.340 has hit the

01:01:01.680 Pentagon

01:01:02.040 oh yeah

01:01:03.740 like a second

01:01:05.840 tower

01:01:06.860 has been hit

01:01:07.440 I think that's

01:01:08.100 a reference

01:01:08.440 to that

01:01:08.920 yeah

01:01:09.940 Carl came up

01:01:10.460 with that

01:01:10.920 DM Denton

01:01:12.380 said

01:01:12.740 the Atlantic

01:01:13.460 is a leftist

01:01:14.140 rag

01:01:14.500 that gaslights

01:01:15.600 with an

01:01:16.060 attempted

01:01:17.180 air of

01:01:17.680 intellectualism

01:01:18.500 owned by

01:01:19.420 a Steve Jobs

01:01:20.160 widow

01:01:20.620 who was

01:01:21.660 close to

01:01:22.220 Ghislaine

01:01:22.620 Maxwell

01:01:23.000 okay

01:01:23.740 I didn't

01:01:24.740 know it

01:01:24.940 was owned

01:01:25.220 by his

01:01:25.520 widow

01:01:25.700 no I

01:01:26.220 didn't

01:01:26.340 know that

01:01:26.600 either

01:01:26.820 but they're

01:01:28.040 certainly

01:01:28.320 anti-Trump

01:01:29.460 yeah

01:01:29.880 okay

01:01:30.800 right so

01:01:31.680 we're going

01:01:32.220 to talk

01:01:32.560 about the

01:01:33.200 due process

01:01:34.160 debate that

01:01:34.900 is surrounding

01:01:35.740 the case

01:01:36.320 of Kilmar

01:01:37.680 Abrego

01:01:38.200 Garcia

01:01:38.600 who was

01:01:39.740 deported

01:01:40.160 by ICE

01:01:40.760 agents

01:01:41.240 last month

01:01:43.120 and it

01:01:44.980 has sparked

01:01:45.760 a huge

01:01:46.580 backlash

01:01:47.400 against

01:01:48.520 the Trump

01:01:49.340 administration

01:01:50.020 and

01:01:51.080 there is

01:01:52.240 a debate

01:01:53.260 about

01:01:53.780 what is

01:01:54.820 going on

01:01:55.400 whether

01:01:55.840 this is

01:01:56.420 the

01:01:56.620 violation

01:01:57.100 of

01:01:57.540 due

01:01:57.740 process

01:01:58.120 and

01:01:58.860 whether

01:01:59.100 due

01:01:59.400 process

01:01:59.760 should

01:02:00.400 be

01:02:00.740 respected

01:02:01.560 or not

01:02:02.100 I want

01:02:03.340 to start

01:02:04.300 by showing

01:02:04.860 you

01:02:05.120 some of

01:02:05.780 the things

01:02:07.300 that have

01:02:07.720 happened

01:02:08.060 with respect

01:02:08.660 to

01:02:08.920 Garcia

01:02:09.400 but also

01:02:10.160 make a

01:02:11.160 prologue

01:02:12.700 by

01:02:13.100 showing

01:02:14.500 the

01:02:15.180 hyperbolic

01:02:16.480 criticism

01:02:17.500 of

01:02:17.960 Trump's

01:02:18.900 deportation

01:02:20.140 deportation

01:02:22.580 so for

01:02:22.960 instance

01:02:23.180 here we

01:02:23.540 have two

01:02:24.100 clips

01:02:24.820 I'll show

01:02:25.180 from

01:02:25.400 Project

01:02:25.780 Liberal

01:02:26.080 they

01:02:26.860 draw

01:02:27.300 some

01:02:27.840 equivalences

01:02:28.540 between

01:02:29.140 Trump's

01:02:30.600 deportations

01:02:31.620 and

01:02:32.020 Project

01:02:32.840 1938

01:02:33.440 which I

01:02:34.000 find

01:02:34.380 completely

01:02:35.280 hyperbolic

01:02:35.960 and

01:02:36.340 wrong

01:02:36.860 and also

01:02:38.180 they have

01:02:38.620 it here

01:02:39.000 in

01:02:39.720 Never

01:02:41.060 Again

01:02:41.400 Is

01:02:41.640 Now

01:02:41.960 they

01:02:42.820 say

01:02:43.300 they

01:02:43.720 draw an

01:02:44.300 equivalence

01:02:44.860 between

01:02:45.380 MS-13

01:02:46.740 members

01:02:47.220 who

01:02:47.700 have

01:02:47.880 been

01:02:48.100 incarcerated

01:02:48.700 by

01:02:49.040 Bukele

01:02:49.460 in

01:02:49.680 El

01:02:49.940 Salvador

01:02:50.360 with

01:02:51.360 prisoners

01:02:51.980 of war

01:02:52.800 in

01:02:53.020 the

01:02:53.220 Hau

01:02:53.540 camp

01:02:53.800 which

01:02:54.100 I

01:02:54.340 think

01:02:54.620 So is

01:02:55.100 there

01:02:55.260 a burning

01:02:56.560 furnace

01:02:57.020 ready

01:02:57.320 for these

01:02:57.760 people

01:02:58.180 just

01:02:58.500 outside

01:02:58.980 the

01:02:59.160 Kekot

01:02:59.560 camp?

01:03:00.860 I think

01:03:01.300 that this

01:03:01.660 is

01:03:01.880 completely

01:03:05.120 mistaken

01:03:06.100 criticism

01:03:06.760 and a

01:03:07.060 false

01:03:07.280 equivalence

01:03:07.880 and

01:03:08.140 especially

01:03:10.580 for people

01:03:11.280 who want

01:03:11.780 to

01:03:11.920 criticise

01:03:12.480 Trump

01:03:12.880 like

01:03:13.320 the

01:03:13.480 people

01:03:13.720 involved

01:03:14.200 in

01:03:14.480 Project

01:03:14.880 Liberal

01:03:15.160 this

01:03:15.820 actually

01:03:16.300 helps

01:03:17.020 Trump

01:03:17.340 When

01:03:17.780 a

01:03:18.160 criticism

01:03:21.140 of

01:03:22.020 that

01:03:23.580 is

01:03:23.840 so

01:03:24.140 preposterous

01:03:24.860 is

01:03:25.120 being

01:03:25.660 put

01:03:25.900 forward

01:03:26.260 it's

01:03:27.100 not

01:03:27.620 helping

01:03:28.220 right

01:03:29.160 so

01:03:29.560 what

01:03:30.860 happened

01:03:31.400 was that

01:03:31.840 on March

01:03:33.000 12

01:03:33.540 ICE

01:03:34.000 agents

01:03:34.420 arrested

01:03:35.000 Kilmar

01:03:35.480 Abrego

01:03:35.900 Garcia

01:03:36.240 who was

01:03:36.880 an

01:03:37.540 illegal

01:03:37.920 immigrant

01:03:38.740 from

01:03:39.340 El

01:03:39.620 Salvador

01:03:39.980 now

01:03:40.340 I've

01:03:40.580 read

01:03:41.120 a lot

01:03:41.580 of

01:03:41.920 papers

01:03:43.140 a lot

01:03:43.580 of

01:03:43.700 newspapers

01:03:44.140 and

01:03:44.500 articles

01:03:44.960 that

01:03:45.360 describe

01:03:46.480 him

01:03:46.800 as

01:03:46.980 an

01:03:47.240 undocumented

01:03:47.880 immigrant

01:03:49.100 they don't

01:03:50.380 say

01:03:50.560 illegal

01:03:50.980 immigrant

01:03:51.480 just

01:03:53.320 putting it

01:03:54.080 out

01:03:54.260 for the

01:03:54.600 record

01:03:54.860 so

01:03:55.660 he

01:03:55.920 was

01:03:56.300 arrested

01:03:57.040 in

01:03:58.420 March

01:03:59.220 on

01:03:59.960 March

01:04:00.440 the

01:04:00.700 12th

01:04:01.400 and

01:04:01.940 he

01:04:02.100 was

01:04:02.280 deported

01:04:02.700 on

01:04:03.080 March

01:04:03.420 15

01:04:03.980 by

01:04:04.880 the

01:04:05.740 Trump

01:04:05.940 administration

01:04:06.640 straightforwardly

01:04:08.160 to

01:04:08.940 Bukele's

01:04:09.880 prison

01:04:10.560 I think

01:04:11.360 it's

01:04:11.600 called

01:04:11.860 the

01:04:12.100 terrorism

01:04:12.620 confinement

01:04:13.480 center

01:04:14.040 right

01:04:14.780 so

01:04:15.120 that was

01:04:15.760 nice

01:04:15.980 quick

01:04:16.240 turnaround

01:04:16.620 wasn't

01:04:16.920 it

01:04:17.180 wasn't

01:04:18.080 it

01:04:18.160 actually

01:04:18.420 got

01:04:18.600 something

01:04:18.820 done

01:04:19.120 quick

01:04:19.940 and

01:04:20.120 effective

01:04:20.480 right

01:04:21.020 but

01:04:21.780 there

01:04:22.020 are

01:04:22.200 several

01:04:22.700 questions

01:04:23.660 regarding

01:04:24.200 this

01:04:24.660 and

01:04:25.600 I

01:04:26.560 want

01:04:26.980 to

01:04:27.140 show

01:04:27.420 you

01:04:27.800 both

01:04:28.700 sides

01:04:29.100 of the

01:04:29.940 equation

01:04:30.600 on

01:04:31.100 these

01:04:31.400 issues

01:04:31.840 so

01:04:32.120 for

01:04:32.300 instance

01:04:32.580 some

01:04:33.240 people

01:04:33.480 are

01:04:33.640 talking

01:04:33.940 about

01:04:34.320 there

01:04:34.520 being

01:04:34.820 a

01:04:35.180 Supreme

01:04:35.580 Court

01:04:35.940 ruling

01:04:36.480 that

01:04:37.500 said

01:04:37.980 that

01:04:38.340 orders

01:04:38.740 Trump

01:04:39.140 to

01:04:39.500 bring

01:04:40.460 him

01:04:40.640 back

01:04:40.940 I

01:04:41.920 think

01:04:42.200 that

01:04:42.400 this

01:04:42.840 isn't

01:04:43.320 the

01:04:43.440 case

01:04:43.780 and

01:04:44.280 a lot

01:04:44.780 of

01:04:44.920 people

01:04:45.100 are

01:04:45.260 saying

01:04:45.500 it

01:04:45.640 isn't

01:04:45.860 the

01:04:45.980 case

01:04:46.180 I'll

01:04:46.380 show

01:04:46.560 you

01:04:46.740 the

01:04:47.280 legal

01:04:47.580 correspondent

01:04:48.160 of

01:04:48.640 CNN

01:04:49.960 saying

01:04:50.400 that

01:04:50.600 this

01:04:50.840 isn't

01:04:51.180 actually

01:04:51.600 what

01:04:52.140 the

01:04:52.300 Supreme

01:04:52.580 Court

01:04:52.800 said

01:04:52.820 I

01:04:56.320 which

01:04:56.640 related

01:04:57.200 to

01:04:57.520 groups

01:04:58.060 of

01:04:58.240 people

01:04:58.500 being

01:04:58.760 sent

01:04:59.220 but

01:04:59.540 not

01:04:59.920 related

01:05:00.300 to

01:05:00.500 this

01:05:00.700 individual

01:05:01.100 I

01:05:01.320 think

01:05:01.440 that

01:05:01.560 was

01:05:01.660 a

01:05:01.840 federal

01:05:02.120 court

01:05:02.460 wasn't

01:05:02.680 it

01:05:03.080 I

01:05:03.240 thought

01:05:03.460 it

01:05:03.620 was

01:05:06.480 this

01:05:06.740 individual

01:05:07.100 dude

01:05:07.500 and

01:05:08.060 they

01:05:08.220 ruled

01:05:08.460 no

01:05:08.720 Trump

01:05:09.080 is

01:05:09.200 absolutely

01:05:09.560 legally

01:05:10.040 allowed

01:05:10.360 to

01:05:10.520 deport

01:05:10.780 him

01:05:11.380 I

01:05:11.620 will

01:05:12.980 get to

01:05:13.620 there

01:05:13.760 because

01:05:14.040 there

01:05:14.240 are

01:05:14.360 people

01:05:14.620 who

01:05:14.860 give

01:05:15.240 all

01:05:15.500 kinds

01:05:15.780 of

01:05:15.900 numbers

01:05:16.180 some

01:05:16.420 people

01:05:16.660 say

01:05:16.900 9-0

01:05:17.520 in

01:05:17.720 favor

01:05:18.000 of

01:05:18.240 Trump

01:05:18.560 others

01:05:18.940 say

01:05:19.180 7-2

01:05:20.160 in

01:05:20.360 favor

01:05:20.600 of

01:05:20.780 Trump

01:05:21.020 others

01:05:21.260 say

01:05:21.520 that

01:05:21.740 the

01:05:22.120 Supreme

01:05:22.460 Court

01:05:22.700 is

01:05:23.040 completely

01:05:23.440 against

01:05:23.760 Trump

01:05:23.980 so

01:05:24.160 there's

01:05:24.440 lots

01:05:25.020 of

01:05:25.200 noise

01:05:25.500 at

01:05:25.860 the

01:05:26.000 moment

01:05:26.280 with

01:05:26.520 respect

01:05:26.820 to

01:05:27.000 what

01:05:27.160 happened

01:05:27.500 but

01:05:27.940 I

01:05:28.080 think

01:05:28.240 we

01:05:28.400 have

01:05:36.480 they

01:05:37.080 are

01:05:37.200 saying

01:05:37.480 that

01:05:37.660 Trump

01:05:37.900 needs

01:05:38.140 to

01:05:38.340 facilitate

01:05:38.880 the

01:05:40.180 return

01:05:41.440 the

01:05:42.020 renegotiation

01:05:43.600 let's

01:05:44.480 say

01:05:44.620 the

01:05:44.860 revisiting

01:05:45.540 of the

01:05:45.860 case

01:05:46.180 but

01:05:46.660 they

01:05:46.840 don't

01:05:47.320 use

01:05:47.660 the

01:05:47.780 word

01:05:47.960 order

01:05:48.320 for

01:05:48.600 legal

01:05:48.900 purposes

01:05:49.340 right

01:05:50.260 and

01:05:51.280 what

01:05:51.920 happened

01:05:52.280 was

01:05:52.640 also

01:05:53.040 that

01:05:53.520 this

01:05:54.540 person

01:05:55.100 Garcia

01:05:55.500 went

01:05:55.940 to

01:05:56.300 the

01:05:56.580 US

01:05:56.940 in

01:05:57.200 2019

01:05:58.460 and

01:05:59.720 even

01:06:00.160 some

01:06:01.120 newspapers

01:06:02.600 that are

01:06:02.980 critical

01:06:03.340 of the

01:06:03.760 Trump

01:06:03.960 administration

01:06:04.660 they're

01:06:05.520 saying

01:06:05.980 that

01:06:06.260 when

01:06:06.540 he

01:06:06.720 was

01:06:06.920 arrested

01:06:07.360 in

01:06:07.680 2019

01:06:09.240 sorry

01:06:10.560 that

01:06:10.760 was

01:06:10.900 when

01:06:11.060 he

01:06:11.160 was

01:06:11.320 forced

01:06:11.600 arrested

01:06:12.060 he

01:06:13.000 appealed

01:06:13.840 that

01:06:14.220 decision

01:06:14.720 and

01:06:15.380 he

01:06:16.340 said

01:06:16.680 that

01:06:17.000 if

01:06:17.380 he

01:06:17.560 was

01:06:17.940 going

01:06:18.140 to

01:06:18.240 be

01:06:18.360 deported

01:06:18.880 he

01:06:19.540 was

01:06:19.760 going

01:06:20.540 to

01:06:20.820 receive

01:06:22.080 retaliation

01:06:22.940 from

01:06:23.500 MS-13

01:06:24.180 or

01:06:24.400 from

01:06:24.620 gangs

01:06:24.920 so

01:06:25.180 his

01:06:25.720 brother

01:06:26.060 who

01:06:26.280 is

01:06:26.460 a

01:06:26.600 US

01:06:26.860 citizen

01:06:27.180 says

01:06:27.660 that

01:06:27.880 he

01:06:28.060 came

01:06:28.480 to

01:06:29.100 the

01:06:29.240 US

01:06:29.640 he

01:06:29.820 tried

01:06:30.120 to

01:06:30.260 go

01:06:30.360 to

01:06:30.480 the

01:06:30.620 US

01:06:30.820 to

01:06:31.020 avoid

01:06:31.340 gang

01:06:31.600 violence

01:06:32.100 there

01:06:32.600 are

01:06:33.280 questions

01:06:33.740 trying

01:06:34.960 to avoid

01:06:35.420 gang

01:06:36.260 doesn't

01:06:36.460 mean

01:06:36.620 that

01:06:36.820 you

01:06:36.920 are

01:06:37.120 innocent

01:06:38.160 just

01:06:39.440 saying

01:06:39.980 that

01:06:40.200 doesn't

01:06:40.840 mean

01:06:41.040 that

01:06:41.200 he

01:06:42.120 is

01:06:42.260 guilty

01:06:42.600 but

01:06:43.580 it

01:06:43.700 doesn't

01:06:43.960 mean

01:06:44.100 that

01:06:44.260 he

01:06:44.340 is

01:06:44.420 innocent

01:06:45.360 he

01:06:46.440 is

01:06:46.560 guilty

01:06:46.920 of

01:06:47.320 illegally

01:06:47.960 entering

01:06:48.480 the

01:06:48.700 US

01:06:49.060 though

01:06:49.480 that's

01:06:49.980 definitely

01:06:50.300 the

01:06:50.560 case

01:06:50.820 also

01:06:52.040 if

01:06:52.380 you

01:06:52.520 one

01:06:52.920 way

01:06:53.300 or

01:06:53.400 another

01:06:53.600 get

01:06:53.800 mixed

01:06:54.080 up

01:06:54.280 with

01:06:54.520 MS-13

01:06:55.440 it

01:06:56.080 doesn't

01:06:56.300 then

01:06:56.480 give

01:06:56.720 you

01:06:56.840 the

01:06:57.020 right

01:06:57.380 to

01:06:57.780 enter

01:06:58.700 the

01:06:58.880 US

01:06:59.120 illegally

01:06:59.460 does

01:06:59.740 it

01:07:00.000 yes

01:07:00.820 but

01:07:01.600 there

01:07:01.820 are

01:07:02.100 several

01:07:02.720 questions

01:07:03.560 with

01:07:03.800 respect

01:07:04.140 to

01:07:04.340 whether

01:07:04.500 he

01:07:04.740 is

01:07:04.980 a

01:07:05.120 member

01:07:05.340 or

01:07:05.640 not

01:07:06.000 and

01:07:06.720 whether

01:07:07.120 the

01:07:08.200 Trump

01:07:08.560 administration

01:07:09.080 was

01:07:09.580 correct

01:07:09.960 in

01:07:10.120 bypassing

01:07:10.820 several

01:07:11.160 of the

01:07:11.560 stages

01:07:12.060 as far

01:07:12.840 as

01:07:13.080 with

01:07:13.780 his

01:07:14.040 case

01:07:14.440 which

01:07:15.120 gives

01:07:16.340 a lot

01:07:16.940 of

01:07:17.280 ground

01:07:18.100 to

01:07:18.580 Democrats

01:07:19.200 to start

01:07:19.900 presenting

01:07:21.440 him as

01:07:21.920 being the

01:07:22.480 enemy of

01:07:23.000 the rule

01:07:23.300 of law

01:07:23.660 and the

01:07:24.060 enemy

01:07:24.280 of

01:07:24.480 due

01:07:24.660 process

01:07:24.980 I'm

01:07:25.900 sure

01:07:26.060 you'll

01:07:26.220 get

01:07:26.320 onto

01:07:26.520 it

01:07:26.660 but

01:07:26.760 I

01:07:27.000 thought

01:07:27.440 it

01:07:28.140 was

01:07:28.320 undisputed

01:07:29.380 that

01:07:29.540 he

01:07:29.660 was

01:07:29.960 in

01:07:30.420 MS-13

01:07:31.040 well

01:07:31.600 this

01:07:34.440 isn't

01:07:34.940 certain

01:07:35.440 because

01:07:35.760 Trump

01:07:36.080 circulated

01:07:36.760 a

01:07:36.980 photo

01:07:37.280 with

01:07:37.580 his

01:07:37.980 tattoos

01:07:39.800 on

01:07:40.120 his

01:07:40.300 hand

01:07:40.660 saying

01:07:41.960 MS-13

01:07:42.540 which

01:07:42.860 is

01:07:43.060 contested

01:07:43.760 some

01:07:43.980 people

01:07:44.240 say

01:07:44.520 it

01:07:44.740 is

01:07:45.040 a

01:07:45.960 Photoshop

01:07:46.280 the

01:07:46.740 question

01:07:47.000 is

01:07:47.240 if

01:07:47.620 it's

01:07:48.720 so

01:07:49.040 easy

01:07:49.360 to

01:07:49.720 dismiss

01:07:50.280 and

01:07:50.920 it

01:07:51.060 isn't

01:07:51.320 a

01:07:51.440 Photoshop

01:07:51.780 and

01:07:52.200 all

01:07:52.500 you

01:07:52.700 need

01:07:52.880 to

01:07:53.000 do

01:07:53.220 to

01:07:53.600 that

01:07:53.740 person

01:07:54.100 is

01:07:54.320 tell

01:07:54.560 him

01:07:54.760 show

01:07:55.040 me

01:07:55.180 your

01:07:55.320 hand

01:07:55.640 why

01:07:57.160 bypass

01:07:57.660 this

01:07:58.120 and

01:07:58.560 give

01:07:59.660 so

01:07:59.920 much

01:08:00.140 ground

01:08:00.500 to

01:08:00.720 others

01:08:01.000 to

01:08:01.160 criticize

01:08:01.540 I

01:08:02.400 think

01:08:02.520 the

01:08:02.640 point

01:08:02.820 is

01:08:03.180 that

01:08:03.380 he

01:08:03.500 was

01:08:03.660 arrested

01:08:04.080 and

01:08:04.400 we

01:08:04.520 know

01:08:04.800 from

01:08:05.200 what

01:08:05.360 I

01:08:05.460 understand

01:08:05.760 the

01:08:05.900 background

01:08:06.140 apparently

01:08:06.540 he

01:08:06.900 beat

01:08:07.620 his

01:08:07.880 wife

01:08:08.240 who

01:08:08.500 said

01:08:08.840 it's

01:08:09.440 alright

01:08:09.660 now

01:08:10.140 but

01:08:10.840 of

01:08:10.980 course

01:08:11.180 I

01:08:11.380 have

01:08:11.800 to

01:08:12.260 show

01:08:12.420 something

01:08:14.340 he

01:08:14.640 didn't

01:08:14.860 mean

01:08:15.060 to

01:08:15.220 hurt

01:08:15.460 me

01:08:15.860 that's

01:08:16.700 right

01:08:16.940 he

01:08:17.220 would

01:08:17.420 have

01:08:17.540 already

01:08:17.860 been

01:08:18.060 prosecuted

01:08:18.540 in

01:08:18.680 the

01:08:18.800 UK

01:08:19.040 under

01:08:19.340 the

01:08:19.480 domestic

01:08:19.780 abuse

01:08:20.200 regulations

01:08:21.100 on the

01:08:21.480 CPS

01:08:21.900 whether

01:08:22.120 she

01:08:22.340 said

01:08:22.600 yes

01:08:22.880 or

01:08:23.040 no

01:08:23.220 on

01:08:23.380 that

01:08:23.600 except

01:08:24.700 if

01:08:25.080 he

01:08:25.280 was

01:08:25.460 considered

01:08:25.800 to be

01:08:26.080 a

01:08:26.220 member

01:08:26.460 of

01:08:26.680 an

01:08:26.820 oppressed

01:08:27.140 minority

01:08:27.580 in which

01:08:28.040 case

01:08:28.300 it

01:08:28.440 could

01:08:28.580 be

01:08:28.760 frustrated

01:08:29.300 yes

01:08:30.060 absolutely

01:08:30.540 sentiments

01:08:31.040 right

01:08:32.200 so

01:08:32.540 but there

01:08:33.220 was

01:08:33.460 more

01:08:33.740 that

01:08:33.960 followed

01:08:34.360 we

01:08:34.640 have

01:08:34.860 here

01:08:35.360 Senator

01:08:36.340 Chris

01:08:37.520 Van

01:08:37.740 Hollen

01:08:38.140 who

01:08:38.480 flew to

01:08:40.320 the

01:08:40.620 to

01:08:41.200 El

01:08:41.380 Salvador

01:08:41.800 started

01:08:42.700 talking

01:08:43.080 with

01:08:43.360 him

01:08:43.520 and

01:08:43.740 there

01:08:43.900 was

01:08:44.160 a

01:08:44.440 response

01:08:44.900 from

01:08:45.100 the

01:08:45.240 White

01:08:45.460 House

01:08:45.800 which

01:08:46.220 is

01:08:46.780 where's

01:08:48.100 the

01:08:48.220 link

01:08:48.420 here

01:08:48.780 they

01:08:50.220 had

01:08:50.560 an

01:08:51.660 article

01:08:51.980 from

01:08:52.640 the

01:08:52.800 New

01:08:52.940 York

01:08:53.140 Times

01:08:53.480 that

01:08:53.680 says

01:08:53.920 Senator

01:08:54.340 meets

01:08:54.760 with

01:08:55.040 wrongly

01:08:55.480 deported

01:08:55.860 Maryland

01:08:56.280 man

01:08:56.580 in

01:08:56.780 El

01:08:57.000 Salvador

01:08:57.360 and

01:08:57.700 the

01:08:57.820 White

01:08:58.000 House

01:08:58.380 fixed

01:09:01.280 it

01:09:01.460 for

01:09:01.660 you

01:09:01.820 New

01:09:02.000 York

01:09:02.220 Times

01:09:02.640 oh

01:09:03.000 and

01:09:03.180 by

01:09:03.380 the

01:09:03.460 way

01:09:03.620 Chris

01:09:03.900 Van

01:09:04.080 Hollen

01:09:04.500 is

01:09:04.840 not

01:09:05.080 coming

01:09:05.340 back

01:09:05.660 and

01:09:05.840 they

01:09:06.000 corrected

01:09:06.360 here

01:09:06.720 they

01:09:07.480 erased

01:09:08.060 wrongly

01:09:08.640 they

01:09:09.080 put

01:09:09.260 MS

01:09:09.680 13

01:09:10.140 illegal

01:09:10.540 alien

01:09:11.000 and

01:09:11.860 here

01:09:12.500 they

01:09:12.700 say

01:09:12.820 who's

01:09:13.020 never

01:09:13.240 coming

01:09:13.540 back

01:09:13.860 there

01:09:15.060 was

01:09:15.340 also

01:09:15.700 a

01:09:16.080 press

01:09:16.600 conference

01:09:17.180 if

01:09:17.860 people

01:09:18.200 want

01:09:18.420 to

01:09:18.540 watch

01:09:18.760 this

01:09:19.020 I

01:09:19.240 have

01:09:19.460 it

01:09:19.600 here

01:09:19.820 you

01:09:19.960 can

01:09:20.120 click

01:09:20.360 the

01:09:20.560 link

01:09:20.760 and

01:09:20.940 watch

01:09:21.380 the

01:09:22.040 press

01:09:23.580 conference

01:09:23.920 for

01:09:24.380 this

01:09:24.600 case

01:09:24.840 right

01:09:25.440 so

01:09:25.760 this

01:09:26.160 person

01:09:26.560 had

01:09:26.840 a

01:09:27.160 violent

01:09:28.100 history

01:09:28.600 and

01:09:29.340 I

01:09:29.540 have

01:09:29.760 here

01:09:29.980 a

01:09:30.180 video

01:09:30.560 that

01:09:30.860 I

01:09:31.000 want

01:09:31.260 to

01:09:31.580 show

01:09:31.900 you

01:09:32.080 for

01:09:32.280 20

01:09:32.640 seconds

01:09:33.240 you

01:09:33.580 did

01:09:34.200 take

01:09:34.440 out

01:09:34.580 a

01:09:34.680 temporary

01:09:34.980 order

01:09:35.320 of

01:09:35.460 protection

01:09:35.760 against

01:09:36.040 your

01:09:36.160 husband

01:09:36.400 in

01:09:36.600 2021

01:09:37.420 were

01:09:38.200 you

01:09:38.380 in

01:09:38.740 fear

01:09:39.120 of

01:09:39.380 your

01:09:39.520 husband

01:09:39.880 have

01:09:46.920 to

01:09:47.060 ask

01:09:47.380 it

01:09:47.560 you

01:09:48.160 did

01:09:48.780 take

01:09:49.040 out

01:09:49.180 a

01:09:49.280 temporary

01:09:49.580 order

01:09:49.920 of

01:09:50.080 protection

01:09:50.360 against

01:09:50.640 your

01:09:50.760 husband

01:09:51.020 in

01:09:51.200 2021

01:09:51.940 were

01:09:52.760 you

01:09:52.980 in

01:09:53.220 fear

01:09:53.580 of

01:09:53.840 your

01:09:53.980 husband

01:09:54.360 husband

01:10:00.440 is

01:10:00.660 alive

01:10:01.140 that's

01:10:02.420 all

01:10:02.520 I

01:10:02.600 can

01:10:02.760 say

01:10:03.180 so

01:10:05.000 were

01:10:05.960 you

01:10:06.140 a

01:10:06.300 victim

01:10:07.380 of

01:10:07.660 domestic

01:10:08.880 abuse

01:10:09.280 how

01:10:09.620 much

01:10:09.940 hope

01:10:10.420 so

01:10:11.640 the

01:10:11.860 answer

01:10:12.420 to

01:10:12.660 the

01:10:12.800 question

01:10:13.180 whether

01:10:13.480 you

01:10:13.700 were

01:10:13.860 a

01:10:13.980 victim

01:10:14.200 of

01:10:14.400 domestic

01:10:14.780 abuse

01:10:15.320 is

01:10:15.740 my

01:10:15.980 husband

01:10:16.340 is

01:10:16.560 alive

01:10:16.840 that's

01:10:17.080 all

01:10:17.180 I

01:10:17.260 can

01:10:17.380 say

01:10:17.620 which

01:10:18.180 raises

01:10:19.120 some

01:10:19.340 doubt

01:10:19.700 or a

01:10:21.020 non

01:10:21.220 response

01:10:21.680 it's

01:10:22.300 like

01:10:22.440 saying

01:10:22.640 I

01:10:22.780 don't

01:10:22.980 recall

01:10:23.340 yeah

01:10:23.860 is

01:10:25.020 he

01:10:25.120 my

01:10:25.240 husband

01:10:25.500 who

01:10:26.320 is

01:10:26.460 he

01:10:26.600 yeah

01:10:27.000 I

01:10:27.280 don't

01:10:27.420 know

01:10:27.540 who

01:10:27.680 am

01:10:27.800 I

01:10:27.980 what's

01:10:29.000 my

01:10:29.140 name

01:10:29.340 if

01:10:30.800 he's

01:10:31.220 if

01:10:31.480 he's

01:10:31.800 if

01:10:32.900 he's

01:10:33.220 if

01:10:33.900 he's

01:10:36.000 from

01:10:36.180 El

01:10:36.440 Salvador

01:10:36.820 and

01:10:37.080 he's

01:10:37.360 and

01:10:37.660 he's

01:10:37.820 a

01:10:37.940 violent

01:10:38.180 person

01:10:38.640 that's

01:10:38.920 it

01:10:39.060 for

01:10:39.240 me

01:10:39.360 slam

01:10:39.620 dunk

01:10:39.940 why

01:10:42.400 would

01:10:43.180 you

01:10:43.300 have

01:10:43.520 him

01:10:43.660 in

01:10:43.820 the

01:10:43.980 United

01:10:44.200 States

01:10:44.480 yeah

01:10:44.660 so

01:10:44.940 the

01:10:45.320 argument

01:10:45.680 in

01:10:45.860 favor

01:10:46.060 the

01:10:46.380 argument

01:10:46.740 is

01:10:47.180 that

01:10:47.840 when

01:10:48.620 it

01:10:48.780 comes

01:10:49.120 to

01:10:50.180 if

01:10:51.180 okay

01:10:52.140 let

01:10:52.620 me

01:10:52.760 rephrase

01:10:53.100 sorry

01:10:53.360 because

01:10:54.060 I

01:10:54.220 don't

01:10:54.400 want

01:10:54.520 to

01:10:54.600 get

01:10:54.820 tongue

01:10:55.220 twisted

01:10:55.520 the

01:10:56.520 argument

01:10:56.800 is

01:10:57.080 that

01:10:57.280 the

01:10:57.480 conditional

01:10:57.960 is

01:10:58.340 true

01:10:58.700 if

01:10:59.840 someone

01:11:00.160 is

01:11:00.500 a

01:11:00.640 violent

01:11:00.880 gang

01:11:01.220 member

01:11:01.640 from

01:11:01.920 MS-13

01:11:02.480 then

01:11:03.140 they

01:11:03.300 should

01:11:03.460 be

01:11:03.600 deported

01:11:03.980 the

01:11:04.440 question

01:11:04.700 is

01:11:04.960 whether

01:11:05.260 Trump

01:11:06.640 is

01:11:06.960 correct

01:11:08.020 in

01:11:08.220 saying

01:11:08.400 that

01:11:08.580 he

01:11:08.760 is

01:11:09.020 a

01:11:09.160 member

01:11:09.380 of

01:11:09.580 MS-13

01:11:10.280 so

01:11:10.980 they

01:11:11.160 could

01:11:11.340 be

01:11:11.620 saying

01:11:11.840 that

01:11:12.040 what

01:11:12.680 evidence

01:11:13.520 did

01:11:13.880 they

01:11:14.020 produce

01:11:14.280 exactly

01:11:14.600 so

01:11:14.880 they

01:11:15.120 would

01:11:15.280 say

01:11:15.480 for

01:11:15.660 instance

01:11:15.940 that

01:11:16.180 unless

01:11:16.720 a

01:11:17.300 particular

01:11:17.580 procedure

01:11:18.140 is

01:11:18.540 being

01:11:18.780 followed

01:11:23.360 disorganization

01:11:24.000 according

01:11:24.360 to

01:11:24.580 Trump

01:11:24.860 whether

01:11:26.840 there

01:11:27.140 should

01:11:27.680 be

01:11:27.860 due

01:11:28.060 process

01:11:28.440 with

01:11:28.660 respect

01:11:28.980 to

01:11:29.160 that

01:11:29.380 because

01:11:29.880 if

01:11:30.180 the

01:11:30.400 process

01:11:30.760 isn't

01:11:31.120 followed

01:11:31.480 they

01:11:32.020 could

01:11:32.240 use

01:11:32.700 that

01:11:32.900 for

01:11:33.260 many

01:11:34.000 people

01:11:34.300 for

01:11:34.720 all

01:11:34.940 sorts

01:11:35.140 of

01:11:35.300 reasons

01:11:35.600 they

01:11:36.100 could

01:11:36.240 say

01:11:36.420 for

01:11:36.560 instance

01:11:36.780 we

01:11:36.980 don't

01:11:37.280 like

01:11:37.560 you

01:11:37.760 well

01:11:38.300 you

01:11:38.800 are

01:11:39.060 pro

01:11:39.500 Hamas

01:11:39.920 and

01:11:40.180 we

01:11:40.660 name

01:11:41.040 Hamas

01:11:41.440 a

01:11:41.980 disorganization

01:11:42.980 so

01:11:43.260 you're

01:11:43.480 gone

01:11:43.700 there

01:11:44.880 are

01:11:45.020 several

01:11:45.300 respects

01:11:45.920 concerns

01:11:47.240 the

01:11:47.560 issue

01:11:48.200 about

01:11:48.420 this

01:11:48.660 is

01:11:48.800 that

01:11:48.940 when

01:11:49.060 we

01:11:49.220 seen

01:11:49.540 the

01:11:49.840 individual

01:11:53.360 membership

01:11:54.160 of a

01:11:54.620 certain

01:11:54.820 chapter

01:11:55.240 of

01:11:56.180 the

01:11:56.580 criminal

01:11:57.600 organization

01:11:58.360 MS-13

01:11:59.160 that he's

01:12:00.020 got tattoos

01:12:00.640 on there

01:12:01.060 that talk

01:12:01.460 about

01:12:01.680 MS-13

01:12:02.520 that the

01:12:03.560 t-shirt

01:12:03.940 that he

01:12:04.240 was wearing

01:12:04.720 related to

01:12:06.360 a particular

01:12:06.840 chapter

01:12:07.300 in

01:12:07.660 Maryland

01:12:08.420 his lawyer

01:12:09.940 had come

01:12:10.980 to court

01:12:11.700 and suggested

01:12:12.600 that no

01:12:13.120 this is all

01:12:13.680 New York's

01:12:15.240 China chapter

01:12:16.720 he's never

01:12:17.200 been up there

01:12:17.820 he's not

01:12:18.500 connected to

01:12:19.160 that

01:12:19.460 it's just

01:12:20.060 just an

01:12:20.520 innocent

01:12:21.260 mistake

01:12:21.760 it's anyone

01:12:22.260 just wearing

01:12:22.780 a baseball

01:12:23.240 cap

01:12:23.720 that he

01:12:24.820 liked

01:12:25.200 and

01:12:26.260 when the

01:12:26.880 police

01:12:27.140 suggest

01:12:27.500 this is

01:12:27.820 all

01:12:28.000 connected

01:12:28.420 and he's

01:12:29.480 had an

01:12:29.760 evidence

01:12:30.100 of the

01:12:30.620 history

01:12:31.040 like you've

01:12:31.580 said

01:12:31.780 he came

01:12:32.100 across the

01:12:32.520 border

01:12:32.860 he's got

01:12:33.540 his wife

01:12:34.100 none of

01:12:34.780 that indicate

01:12:35.540 that he's

01:12:35.940 actually

01:12:36.240 MS-13

01:12:36.940 but there's

01:12:37.420 been a

01:12:37.720 deep

01:12:37.940 dive

01:12:38.420 into

01:12:39.660 how

01:12:40.420 MS-13

01:12:41.160 operates

01:12:41.980 across

01:12:43.020 the east

01:12:43.560 coast

01:12:43.960 and that

01:12:44.680 indicates

01:12:45.320 that everything

01:12:45.940 about him

01:12:46.720 shows that

01:12:48.020 he's actually

01:12:48.480 part of

01:12:49.040 that chapter

01:12:49.540 and that

01:12:49.860 chapter

01:12:50.120 is alive

01:12:51.280 and well

01:12:51.980 in

01:12:52.620 Maryland

01:12:53.040 not just

01:12:54.020 in New

01:12:54.320 York

01:12:54.580 okay so

01:12:55.380 Trump

01:12:55.780 that's

01:12:56.600 what I

01:12:56.980 understand

01:12:57.340 yes so

01:12:58.000 Trump

01:12:58.340 circulated

01:12:58.980 this photo

01:12:59.460 here

01:12:59.800 where he

01:13:00.620 shows the

01:13:01.460 hands

01:13:02.800 tattooed

01:13:04.040 left hand

01:13:05.460 of the

01:13:05.740 of

01:13:06.100 Garcia

01:13:06.760 with also

01:13:07.880 MS-13

01:13:08.520 on top

01:13:09.100 and

01:13:09.840 a lot

01:13:10.820 and a lot

01:13:10.840 of people

01:13:11.140 are contesting

01:13:11.820 it

01:13:12.040 a lot

01:13:12.360 of people

01:13:12.680 are saying

01:13:13.460 that Trump

01:13:14.080 is

01:13:14.240 straightforwardly

01:13:14.940 correct

01:13:15.260 my point

01:13:16.180 is if

01:13:16.680 it's

01:13:17.360 just so

01:13:17.900 easy to

01:13:18.360 show

01:13:18.680 why not

01:13:19.640 go through

01:13:20.320 the process

01:13:22.020 that there

01:13:22.460 is

01:13:22.740 so that

01:13:24.020 you don't

01:13:24.920 give the

01:13:25.280 left an

01:13:25.640 extra

01:13:25.860 argument

01:13:26.220 to present

01:13:27.140 you as

01:13:27.480 the enemy

01:13:29.420 to the

01:13:29.820 rule of

01:13:30.120 law

01:13:30.320 what about

01:13:30.960 the argument

01:13:31.680 or the

01:13:32.300 angle

01:13:32.700 that

01:13:33.180 regardless

01:13:34.080 of whether

01:13:34.480 he's in

01:13:34.960 MS-13

01:13:35.640 or not

01:13:36.140 he

01:13:37.200 came into

01:13:38.960 the country

01:13:39.340 illegally

01:13:39.740 and has

01:13:40.580 a record

01:13:41.300 of violence

01:13:41.820 whether it's

01:13:42.660 MS-13

01:13:43.560 condoned

01:13:44.080 violence

01:13:44.580 or not

01:13:45.140 I think

01:13:45.520 it falls

01:13:46.360 under the

01:13:46.880 Biden

01:13:47.340 process

01:13:48.140 was that

01:13:48.620 certain

01:13:48.920 individuals

01:13:49.380 like him

01:13:49.960 were nominally

01:13:51.300 granted the

01:13:51.980 ability to

01:13:52.580 stay if they

01:13:53.200 signed certain

01:13:53.800 forms

01:13:54.260 which is why

01:13:55.140 they're calling

01:13:55.560 him Maryland

01:13:56.140 man or

01:13:56.860 Maryland

01:13:57.260 dad

01:13:57.820 and so

01:13:59.160 that's all

01:13:59.940 been repealed

01:14:00.640 now by

01:14:01.220 Trump as

01:14:01.760 well

01:14:02.000 so he

01:14:03.780 would not

01:14:04.180 be allowed

01:14:04.760 to stay

01:14:05.220 in current

01:14:05.640 circumstances

01:14:06.420 but they're

01:14:06.840 saying he

01:14:07.060 has a right

01:14:07.460 to be here

01:14:08.160 which all

01:14:08.820 the lawyers

01:14:09.300 are jumping

01:14:09.720 up going

01:14:10.160 he's a

01:14:10.420 right to

01:14:10.680 he is

01:14:11.160 Maryland

01:14:11.520 dad

01:14:12.020 you can

01:14:12.660 only be

01:14:12.960 removed

01:14:13.320 as you

01:14:13.840 say

01:14:14.080 if he

01:14:14.420 is a

01:14:15.420 criminal

01:14:15.680 but we

01:14:16.540 don't

01:14:16.700 believe

01:14:16.940 he is

01:14:17.360 I'll

01:14:18.040 get to

01:14:18.720 what you're

01:14:19.120 saying

01:14:19.420 and I

01:14:19.720 do

01:14:19.860 think

01:14:20.160 that

01:14:20.480 and I

01:14:21.660 will get

01:14:22.340 to what

01:14:22.620 you're

01:14:22.800 saying

01:14:23.080 but I

01:14:23.380 will say

01:14:23.740 that

01:14:24.040 he was

01:14:25.160 also

01:14:25.440 deported

01:14:25.900 straight

01:14:26.300 into a

01:14:26.700 prison

01:14:26.980 so

01:14:27.620 they're

01:14:28.180 saying

01:14:28.380 that

01:14:28.620 the

01:14:29.840 Trump

01:14:30.060 administration

01:14:30.840 just

01:14:31.480 said

01:14:32.660 that

01:14:32.840 he

01:14:33.060 is

01:14:33.220 guilty

01:14:33.580 and

01:14:34.540 it's

01:14:35.060 not

01:14:35.240 the

01:14:35.420 same

01:14:35.680 deporting

01:14:36.220 someone

01:14:36.620 and

01:14:37.040 deporting

01:14:37.500 them

01:14:37.700 into

01:14:38.060 a

01:14:38.420 prison

01:14:38.660 so

01:14:39.660 they

01:14:39.940 could

01:14:40.140 make

01:14:40.320 this

01:14:40.500 argument

01:14:40.740 but I

01:14:41.360 will

01:14:41.600 get

01:14:41.820 there

01:14:42.020 because

01:14:42.320 there

01:14:42.940 is

01:14:43.120 a

01:14:43.480 to add

01:14:44.760 to your

01:14:45.040 point

01:14:45.340 because

01:14:45.620 I

01:14:45.800 do

01:14:45.920 think

01:14:46.140 that

01:14:46.280 you

01:14:46.380 have

01:14:46.540 a

01:14:46.640 very

01:14:46.840 valid

01:14:47.140 point

01:14:47.500 people

01:14:48.420 who

01:14:48.720 are

01:14:50.380 in

01:14:50.580 favor

01:14:50.860 of

01:14:51.020 the

01:14:51.140 constitution

01:14:51.700 and

01:14:52.020 people

01:14:52.320 who

01:14:52.560 are

01:14:52.880 pro

01:14:53.400 constitution

01:14:53.980 should

01:14:54.880 understand

01:14:56.320 when

01:14:56.600 activists

01:14:57.480 are

01:14:58.080 trying

01:14:58.460 to

01:14:58.640 use

01:14:58.840 the

01:14:59.000 constitution

01:14:59.500 against

01:15:00.080 its

01:15:00.480 purpose

01:15:01.140 so

01:15:01.800 when

01:15:02.060 people

01:15:02.300 are

01:15:02.480 trying

01:15:02.720 to

01:15:02.900 hide

01:15:03.320 behind

01:15:03.840 the

01:15:04.960 ambiguity

01:15:05.340 of

01:15:05.880 legal

01:15:06.360 texts

01:15:06.900 in

01:15:07.300 order

01:15:07.500 to

01:15:08.020 promote

01:15:08.780 straightforwardly

01:15:10.660 anti

01:15:11.600 national

01:15:13.160 agendas

01:15:13.760 that's

01:15:14.560 a big

01:15:14.860 problem

01:15:15.280 and

01:15:15.980 people

01:15:16.400 can

01:15:16.660 hide

01:15:16.960 behind

01:15:17.300 the

01:15:17.500 constitution

01:15:18.000 in

01:15:18.920 the

01:15:19.280 abstract

01:15:19.680 and

01:15:19.960 constantly

01:15:20.360 say

01:15:20.740 the

01:15:21.000 constitution

01:15:21.500 is

01:15:21.880 I

01:15:22.440 interpret

01:15:22.760 the

01:15:22.960 constitution

01:15:23.340 in

01:15:23.740 this

01:15:23.920 case

01:15:24.320 but

01:15:24.820 that's

01:15:26.260 actually

01:15:26.700 destroying

01:15:27.940 the

01:15:28.360 very

01:15:28.600 culture

01:15:28.980 that

01:15:29.420 praises

01:15:32.800 the

01:15:33.000 constitution

01:15:33.480 you

01:15:34.100 can't

01:15:34.380 have

01:15:34.700 violent

01:15:35.240 members

01:15:35.700 just

01:15:36.140 roaming

01:15:36.480 free

01:15:36.800 and

01:15:37.280 have

01:15:37.500 uncontrolled

01:15:39.040 migration

01:15:39.540 so

01:15:40.340 I think

01:15:41.520 that

01:15:41.740 you have

01:15:42.500 a great

01:15:42.820 point

01:15:43.080 there

01:15:43.240 so

01:15:43.780 Trump

01:15:44.120 and

01:15:44.280 Bukele

01:15:44.600 said

01:15:44.920 that

01:15:45.160 they

01:15:45.400 are

01:15:46.040 not

01:15:46.540 going

01:15:46.780 to

01:15:46.940 return

01:15:47.320 Kilmar

01:15:48.140 Armando

01:15:48.820 Garcia

01:15:49.520 the

01:15:50.600 US

01:15:50.960 after

01:15:51.480 the

01:15:51.840 people

01:15:52.420 were

01:15:52.820 after

01:15:54.300 they

01:15:55.000 received

01:15:55.500 criticism

01:15:56.060 Stephen

01:15:56.480 Miller

01:15:56.740 had

01:15:57.060 a

01:15:57.300 strong

01:15:57.560 response

01:15:58.080 who

01:15:58.940 said

01:15:59.240 basically

01:16:01.080 that

01:16:01.760 no

01:16:03.540 rule

01:16:03.840 of law

01:16:04.100 has

01:16:04.360 been

01:16:04.500 violated

01:16:04.960 because

01:16:05.420 Trump

01:16:05.760 has

01:16:06.060 announced

01:16:06.520 MS-13

01:16:07.300 a

01:16:07.920 criminal

01:16:09.220 or

01:16:09.540 a

01:16:09.880 terrorist

01:16:10.200 organization

01:16:10.920 so

01:16:11.340 because

01:16:11.920 he

01:16:12.220 is

01:16:12.660 associated

01:16:14.080 with

01:16:14.460 MS-13

01:16:15.180 he

01:16:16.160 doesn't

01:16:16.800 have

01:16:17.340 several

01:16:18.400 of

01:16:18.700 the

01:16:18.880 provisions

01:16:19.800 by

01:16:20.440 the

01:16:20.600 constitution

01:16:21.140 with

01:16:21.840 respect

01:16:22.160 to

01:16:22.360 his

01:16:22.480 rights

01:16:22.720 so

01:16:22.980 deporting

01:16:24.120 him

01:16:24.360 is

01:16:24.700 not

01:16:25.200 unconstitutional

01:16:26.460 and I

01:16:26.820 think

01:16:26.960 Tom

01:16:27.180 Homan

01:16:27.460 has

01:16:28.140 the

01:16:28.320 same

01:16:28.600 point

01:16:28.940 again

01:16:29.660 they're

01:16:30.000 open

01:16:30.220 to

01:16:30.400 the

01:16:30.600 same

01:16:30.920 counter

01:16:31.300 argument

01:16:31.640 with

01:16:31.940 respect

01:16:32.300 to

01:16:32.540 whether

01:16:32.720 this

01:16:33.180 person

01:16:33.440 is

01:16:33.660 actually

01:16:34.060 a

01:16:34.240 member

01:16:34.400 of

01:16:34.600 MS-13

01:16:35.180 or

01:16:35.580 not

01:16:35.760 and

01:16:36.240 why

01:16:36.500 did

01:16:36.660 they

01:16:36.800 have

01:16:37.000 to

01:16:37.160 just

01:16:37.460 go

01:16:37.880 straight

01:16:38.180 for

01:16:38.380 without

01:16:38.960 they

01:16:39.660 didn't

01:16:40.460 have

01:16:40.680 to

01:16:40.920 why

01:16:41.500 they

01:16:42.120 didn't

01:16:42.420 respect

01:16:42.900 due

01:16:43.800 process

01:16:44.180 on

01:16:44.420 that

01:16:44.640 issue

01:16:45.000 with

01:16:45.480 respect

01:16:45.780 to

01:16:45.980 the

01:16:46.120 court

01:16:46.340 but

01:16:46.820 that

01:16:47.820 seems

01:16:48.700 to be

01:16:48.940 the

01:16:49.100 situation

01:16:49.540 and

01:16:49.820 here

01:16:50.020 we

01:16:50.180 have

01:16:50.400 CNN

01:16:51.340 chief

01:16:52.260 legal

01:16:52.580 correspondent

01:16:53.220 Paula

01:16:53.580 Reid

01:16:53.840 who said

01:16:54.300 that the

01:16:54.660 Trump

01:16:54.920 administration

01:16:55.540 is not

01:16:56.140 violating

01:16:56.520 the

01:16:56.800 Supreme

01:16:57.060 Court

01:16:57.360 ruling

01:16:58.120 on

01:16:58.460 Garcia

01:16:59.400 and

01:17:00.280 she

01:17:00.460 is

01:17:00.620 accusing

01:17:00.960 the

01:17:01.240 Supreme

01:17:01.640 Court

01:17:02.020 of

01:17:02.400 being

01:17:02.900 very

01:17:03.720 ambiguous

01:17:04.480 so that

01:17:05.480 they

01:17:05.720 would

01:17:06.040 help

01:17:06.360 Trump

01:17:06.740 hide

01:17:07.500 behind

01:17:07.860 that

01:17:08.060 ambiguity

01:17:08.480 and

01:17:09.200 that's

01:17:09.440 the

01:17:09.560 issue

01:17:09.800 that

01:17:10.060 any

01:17:10.540 kind

01:17:10.900 of

01:17:11.020 legal

01:17:11.260 text

01:17:11.520 you

01:17:12.080 are

01:17:12.440 the

01:17:12.580 person

01:17:12.860 to

01:17:13.060 tell

01:17:13.300 me

01:17:13.520 if

01:17:13.920 I'm

01:17:15.180 right

01:17:15.640 or

01:17:15.820 wrong

01:17:16.040 and

01:17:16.180 if

01:17:16.360 I'm

01:17:16.520 wrong

01:17:16.800 how

01:17:17.300 I

01:17:17.480 think

01:17:17.700 almost

01:17:18.200 every

01:17:18.560 legal

01:17:18.900 text

01:17:19.340 has

01:17:20.060 a

01:17:20.240 degree

01:17:20.560 of

01:17:20.780 ambiguity

01:17:21.260 built

01:17:22.940 into

01:17:23.300 it

01:17:23.560 and

01:17:24.260 the

01:17:24.860 power

01:17:25.440 with

01:17:26.080 interpreting

01:17:27.280 the

01:17:27.780 law

01:17:28.480 is

01:17:29.580 incredibly

01:17:30.340 strong

01:17:30.680 and

01:17:30.820 I'll

01:17:31.020 just

01:17:31.380 I'll

01:17:32.220 give

01:17:32.380 you

01:17:32.480 the

01:17:32.660 pass

01:17:32.900 because

01:17:33.200 I

01:17:33.420 just

01:17:33.920 want

01:17:34.120 to

01:17:34.280 say

01:17:34.820 and

01:17:35.380 draw

01:17:35.520 an

01:17:35.640 equivalence

01:17:36.160 between

01:17:36.420 what

01:17:36.680 we

01:17:36.860 hear

01:17:37.240 here

01:17:38.040 in

01:17:38.200 Europe

01:17:38.540 article

01:17:39.940 8

01:17:40.240 of

01:17:40.400 the

01:17:40.560 ECHR

01:17:41.240 says

01:17:41.620 that

01:17:41.820 everyone

01:17:42.140 has

01:17:42.520 the

01:17:42.680 right

01:17:42.900 to

01:17:43.040 respect

01:17:43.440 for

01:17:44.180 his

01:17:44.520 private

01:17:44.820 and

01:17:45.040 family

01:17:45.320 life

01:17:45.640 his

01:17:45.840 home

01:17:46.040 and

01:17:46.160 his

01:17:46.400 correspondence

01:17:47.000 and

01:17:48.280 they

01:17:48.520 have

01:17:48.700 the

01:17:48.860 second

01:17:49.220 clause

01:17:49.640 that

01:17:50.500 says

01:17:50.760 there

01:17:50.920 shall

01:17:51.160 be

01:17:51.320 no

01:17:51.460 interference

01:17:51.960 by

01:17:52.280 a

01:17:52.420 public

01:17:52.660 authority

01:17:53.060 with

01:17:53.300 the

01:17:53.440 exercise

01:17:53.800 of

01:17:54.120 this

01:17:54.300 right

01:17:54.580 expect

01:17:55.140 such

01:17:55.540 as

01:17:55.980 is

01:17:56.860 in

01:17:57.200 accordance

01:17:57.620 with

01:17:58.060 the

01:17:58.240 law

01:17:58.440 and

01:17:59.020 is

01:17:59.220 necessary

01:17:59.780 in

01:17:59.980 a

01:18:00.140 democratic

01:18:00.640 society

01:18:01.200 in

01:18:01.480 the

01:18:01.680 interests

01:18:02.320 of

01:18:03.020 national

01:18:03.420 security

01:18:04.040 public

01:18:04.760 safety

01:18:05.220 or

01:18:05.560 the

01:18:05.760 economic

01:18:06.260 well-being

01:18:06.740 of

01:18:06.960 the

01:18:07.060 country

01:18:07.360 for

01:18:07.900 the

01:18:08.100 prevention

01:18:08.500 of

01:18:08.840 disorder

01:18:09.320 or

01:18:09.700 crime

01:18:10.080 for

01:18:10.640 the

01:18:10.820 protection

01:18:11.320 of

01:18:11.640 health

01:18:12.020 or

01:18:12.540 morals

01:18:13.020 or

01:18:13.640 for

01:18:13.820 the

01:18:13.980 protection

01:18:14.340 of

01:18:14.560 the

01:18:14.680 rights

01:18:14.920 and

01:18:15.100 freedoms

01:18:15.440 of

01:18:15.700 others

01:18:15.940 and

01:18:16.140 this

01:18:16.280 is

01:18:16.420 exactly

01:18:16.760 the

01:18:16.940 point

01:18:17.100 I

01:18:17.260 was

01:18:17.380 raising

01:18:17.640 last

01:18:17.940 week

01:18:18.260 where

01:18:18.480 I

01:18:18.620 said

01:18:18.840 that

01:18:19.100 if

01:18:19.900 we

01:18:20.020 wanted

01:18:20.260 to

01:18:20.440 adopt

01:18:20.680 similar

01:18:20.980 policies

01:18:21.420 to

01:18:21.760 Trump

01:18:22.180 we

01:18:22.340 could

01:18:22.500 do

01:18:22.680 so

01:18:22.960 based

01:18:23.640 on

01:18:23.800 those

01:18:23.980 principles

01:18:24.380 and

01:18:24.560 if

01:18:24.660 you

01:18:24.820 added

01:18:25.180 that

01:18:25.600 to

01:18:25.840 where

01:18:26.040 Trump

01:18:26.300 is

01:18:26.480 today

01:18:26.780 they're

01:18:27.060 saying

01:18:27.260 everyone

01:18:27.880 has

01:18:28.100 respect

01:18:28.560 Mr

01:18:29.000 Maryland

01:18:30.080 man

01:18:30.600 Maryland

01:18:31.320 dad

01:18:31.820 we

01:18:32.160 can

01:18:32.540 respect

01:18:32.940 his

01:18:33.180 life

01:18:33.640 however

01:18:34.340 if

01:18:35.300 he

01:18:35.440 is

01:18:35.560 a

01:18:35.700 threat

01:18:35.920 to

01:18:36.100 our

01:18:36.260 national

01:18:36.600 security

01:18:37.240 and

01:18:37.780 we

01:18:37.920 have

01:18:38.080 deemed

01:18:38.500 MS

01:18:39.100 13

01:18:39.440 to

01:18:39.720 be

01:18:39.860 a

01:18:40.020 threat

01:18:40.200 to

01:18:40.360 our

01:18:40.520 national

01:18:40.800 security

01:18:41.380 then

01:18:42.640 I'm

01:18:42.780 sorry

01:18:43.020 it

01:18:43.400 doesn't

01:18:48.620 well

01:18:48.840 hang

01:18:49.020 on

01:18:49.140 a

01:18:49.280 minute

01:18:49.420 we

01:18:49.820 probably

01:18:50.380 accept

01:18:50.900 that

01:18:51.340 which

01:18:51.880 is

01:18:52.040 what

01:18:52.220 she's

01:18:52.520 saying

01:18:52.780 you

01:18:53.240 don't

01:18:53.380 have

01:18:53.580 to

01:18:53.700 be

01:18:53.840 returned

01:18:54.400 you

01:18:55.160 facilitate

01:18:56.120 it

01:18:56.580 whatever

01:18:56.820 that

01:18:57.120 means

01:18:57.560 but

01:18:58.360 if

01:18:58.500 the

01:18:58.660 guy

01:18:58.860 is

01:18:59.080 not

01:18:59.380 MS

01:18:59.780 13

01:19:00.160 then

01:19:00.680 you

01:19:00.920 shouldn't

01:19:01.160 be

01:19:01.280 able

01:19:01.400 to

01:19:01.540 deport

01:19:01.880 him

01:19:02.060 under

01:19:02.400 these

01:19:02.660 provisions

01:19:03.060 so

01:19:04.260 why

01:19:04.880 don't

01:19:05.140 you

01:19:05.320 prove

01:19:05.620 to

01:19:05.800 us

01:19:06.000 these

01:19:06.180 MS

01:19:06.500 13

01:19:06.880 and

01:19:07.120 that's

01:19:07.340 why

01:19:07.480 they're

01:19:07.660 showing

01:19:07.980 that

01:19:08.200 he

01:19:08.320 is

01:19:08.540 I

01:19:08.760 mean

01:19:08.880 after

01:19:09.080 all

01:19:09.260 I

01:19:09.360 think

01:19:09.520 also

01:19:09.780 he

01:19:09.960 was

01:19:18.620 them

01:19:18.740 I

01:19:18.860 don't

01:19:19.040 know

01:19:19.220 maybe

01:19:19.440 they

01:19:19.640 dragged

01:19:19.840 him

01:19:19.960 off

01:19:20.100 the

01:19:20.220 street

01:19:20.420 and

01:19:20.600 said

01:19:20.800 unless

01:19:21.360 you

01:19:21.520 have

01:19:21.640 a

01:19:21.720 drink

01:19:21.900 with

01:19:22.040 us

01:19:22.220 as

01:19:22.340 MS

01:19:22.580 13

01:19:22.960 and

01:19:23.180 wear

01:19:23.360 our

01:19:23.560 cap

01:19:23.880 we're

01:19:24.700 going

01:19:24.800 to

01:19:25.300 execute

01:19:25.660 you

01:19:25.980 I

01:19:26.140 don't

01:19:26.340 know

01:19:26.600 I

01:19:26.760 mean

01:19:26.900 but

01:19:27.080 certainly

01:19:27.460 there

01:19:27.620 were

01:19:27.740 other

01:19:27.940 factors

01:19:28.500 in

01:19:29.260 there

01:19:29.560 and

01:19:30.500 the

01:19:30.800 question

01:19:31.120 is

01:19:31.280 did

01:19:31.740 they

01:19:31.860 make

01:19:32.040 a

01:19:32.140 mistake

01:19:32.560 is

01:19:32.960 he

01:19:33.100 just

01:19:33.320 generally

01:19:33.780 nice

01:19:34.180 decent

01:19:34.560 Maryland

01:19:35.000 and

01:19:36.180 therefore

01:19:36.480 he

01:19:36.700 has

01:19:36.840 to

01:19:36.960 go

01:19:37.100 through

01:19:37.280 the

01:19:37.460 immigration

01:19:38.020 rules

01:19:38.480 or

01:19:39.140 is

01:19:48.620 but

01:19:48.860 return

01:19:49.200 to

01:19:49.360 the

01:19:49.480 point

01:19:49.700 of

01:19:50.020 regardless

01:19:51.740 of

01:19:52.000 whether

01:19:52.180 he's

01:19:52.420 in

01:19:52.600 MS

01:19:52.920 13

01:19:53.340 he's

01:19:54.920 a

01:19:55.960 citizen

01:19:56.680 of

01:19:56.980 El

01:19:57.320 Salvador

01:19:57.700 right

01:19:58.920 right

01:20:00.240 who

01:20:01.340 entered

01:20:01.920 the

01:20:02.120 US

01:20:02.360 illegally

01:20:02.860 so

01:20:03.840 that's

01:20:04.880 it

01:20:05.120 he gets

01:20:05.920 deported

01:20:06.420 no

01:20:07.140 he does

01:20:07.620 get

01:20:07.760 deported

01:20:08.080 I know

01:20:08.740 it's more

01:20:09.220 of a

01:20:09.420 slam dunk

01:20:09.900 it's

01:20:10.120 easier

01:20:10.600 to say

01:20:11.180 oh

01:20:11.320 he's

01:20:11.440 also

01:20:11.820 MS

01:20:12.420 13

01:20:12.740 and

01:20:12.920 violent

01:20:13.260 so

01:20:13.740 we've

01:20:14.620 got a

01:20:14.840 different

01:20:15.040 set

01:20:15.260 of

01:20:15.360 rules

01:20:15.540 and

01:20:15.720 laws

01:20:15.940 to

01:20:16.100 go

01:20:16.280 yeah

01:20:16.580 that's

01:20:16.960 what

01:20:17.600 he

01:20:17.760 should

01:20:17.920 do

01:20:18.140 anyway

01:20:18.620 right

01:20:19.200 and I

01:20:19.480 wanted

01:20:19.620 to

01:20:19.820 end

01:20:20.020 with

01:20:20.260 two

01:20:20.740 points

01:20:21.400 because

01:20:21.660 I'm

01:20:21.880 conscious

01:20:22.180 of

01:20:22.420 time

01:20:22.640 and

01:20:22.780 I

01:20:23.100 didn't

01:20:23.280 have

01:20:23.480 that

01:20:23.620 much

01:20:23.840 time

01:20:24.060 to

01:20:24.320 expand

01:20:25.120 on it

01:20:25.440 but

01:20:25.640 it's

01:20:25.940 okay

01:20:26.120 I

01:20:27.160 think

01:20:27.380 a lot

01:20:27.820 of

01:20:27.960 the

01:20:28.120 Democrats

01:20:28.520 are

01:20:28.820 forgetting

01:20:29.300 how

01:20:30.140 hypocritical

01:20:31.060 they are

01:20:31.520 and how

01:20:32.300 hypocritical

01:20:32.940 they sound

01:20:33.540 when they

01:20:34.420 are talking

01:20:34.960 a lot

01:20:35.360 about

01:20:35.660 due

01:20:35.860 process

01:20:36.260 because

01:20:36.780 I

01:20:37.140 have

01:20:37.320 here

01:20:37.560 a

01:20:37.860 post

01:20:38.220 by

01:20:38.460 Hakeem

01:20:38.800 Jeffries

01:20:39.220 on

01:20:39.880 November

01:20:40.220 the

01:20:40.720 10th

01:20:41.160 of

01:20:41.340 2021

01:20:41.900 who

01:20:42.240 says

01:20:42.480 lock

01:20:42.840 up

01:20:43.040 Kyle

01:20:43.280 Rittenhouse

01:20:43.840 and

01:20:44.320 throw

01:20:44.480 away

01:20:44.680 the

01:20:44.840 key

01:20:45.060 which

01:20:46.440 is

01:20:46.860 again

01:20:47.160 the

01:20:47.360 same

01:20:47.660 call

01:20:47.920 for

01:20:48.080 violation

01:20:48.600 of

01:20:48.980 due

01:20:49.160 process

01:20:49.640 but

01:20:50.000 I

01:20:50.220 want

01:20:50.920 to

01:20:51.040 end

01:20:51.360 with

01:20:51.740 just

01:20:52.060 saying

01:20:52.460 that

01:20:52.900 I'm

01:20:54.160 going

01:20:54.280 to be

01:20:54.460 a bit

01:20:54.700 more

01:20:54.880 general

01:20:55.240 and

01:20:55.500 a bit

01:20:55.720 more

01:20:55.940 abstract

01:20:56.240 here

01:20:56.520 without

01:20:56.760 talking

01:20:57.120 about

01:20:57.300 the

01:20:57.460 specific

01:20:57.880 case

01:20:58.280 I

01:20:58.920 do

01:20:59.080 think

01:20:59.360 that

01:20:59.760 there

01:21:00.900 are

01:21:01.100 some

01:21:01.360 people

01:21:01.700 who

01:21:01.960 are

01:21:02.100 saying

01:21:02.440 well

01:21:02.760 the

01:21:03.080 left

01:21:03.360 didn't

01:21:03.680 respect

01:21:04.200 due

01:21:04.460 process

01:21:04.820 we

01:21:05.540 should

01:21:05.740 respect

01:21:06.520 due

01:21:06.780 process

01:21:07.100 as

01:21:07.340 well

01:21:07.500 I

01:21:07.940 don't

01:21:08.140 think

01:21:08.300 that

01:21:08.460 this

01:21:08.640 is

01:21:08.760 a

01:21:08.860 good

01:21:08.980 argument

01:21:09.360 the

01:21:09.840 same

01:21:10.060 could

01:21:10.260 be

01:21:10.400 said

01:21:10.580 for

01:21:10.760 free

01:21:10.980 speech

01:21:11.240 for

01:21:11.420 instance

01:21:11.740 the

01:21:12.600 left

01:21:12.820 didn't

01:21:13.160 respect

01:21:13.600 free

01:21:13.880 speech

01:21:14.240 what

01:21:15.160 if

01:21:15.980 for

01:21:16.120 instance

01:21:16.520 any

01:21:17.680 kind

01:21:18.000 of

01:21:18.260 what

01:21:19.500 if

01:21:19.680 Trump

01:21:20.000 now

01:21:20.360 pushes

01:21:20.720 forward

01:21:21.040 the

01:21:21.240 hate

01:21:21.440 speech

01:21:21.700 law

01:21:22.000 and

01:21:22.960 people

01:21:23.920 are

01:21:24.080 going

01:21:24.220 to

01:21:24.360 say

01:21:25.380 that

01:21:27.600 the

01:21:29.060 left

01:21:29.400 didn't

01:21:30.280 allow

01:21:31.720 free

01:21:32.260 speech

01:21:32.620 so

01:21:33.220 we're

01:21:33.640 okay

01:21:33.860 with

01:21:34.000 that

01:21:34.180 I

01:21:34.580 think

01:21:34.760 due

01:21:35.100 process

01:21:35.480 is

01:21:35.900 I

01:21:36.320 personally

01:21:36.820 think

01:21:37.120 that

01:21:37.280 it

01:21:37.460 is

01:21:37.640 a

01:21:37.900 procedural

01:21:38.340 value

01:21:38.820 it

01:21:39.500 is

01:21:39.660 good

01:21:40.000 it

01:21:40.300 is

01:21:40.440 not

01:21:40.600 the

01:21:40.740 only

01:21:40.940 value

01:21:41.300 but

01:21:41.500 it

01:21:41.640 is

01:21:41.800 a

01:21:41.920 value

01:21:42.260 and

01:21:43.060 that

01:21:43.340 respect

01:21:45.960 in due

01:21:46.280 process

01:21:46.600 is

01:21:46.880 basically

01:21:47.240 respecting

01:21:47.820 the

01:21:48.300 spirit

01:21:49.120 that

01:21:49.600 underpins

01:21:50.780 the

01:21:51.020 rule

01:21:51.240 of

01:21:51.380 law

01:21:51.580 I

01:21:52.440 don't

01:21:52.560 think

01:21:52.720 anyone

01:21:52.900 is

01:21:53.080 really

01:21:53.340 arguing

01:21:53.720 on the

01:21:53.940 right

01:21:54.100 that

01:21:54.220 we

01:21:54.340 want

01:21:54.520 to

01:21:54.700 remove

01:21:55.800 the

01:21:56.040 aspects

01:21:56.600 of

01:21:56.880 the

01:21:57.000 rule

01:21:57.520 of

01:21:57.700 law

01:21:57.940 I

01:21:58.100 mean

01:21:58.220 part

01:21:58.540 of

01:21:58.660 us

01:21:58.800 are

01:21:58.900 actually

01:21:59.100 being

01:21:59.280 campaigned

01:21:59.840 to

01:21:59.900 ensure

01:22:00.180 it

01:22:00.360 strengthened

01:22:00.840 we

01:22:01.080 saying

01:22:01.420 that

01:22:01.960 the

01:22:02.080 rule

01:22:02.280 of

01:22:07.900 the

01:22:08.120 language

01:22:08.700 moved

01:22:09.460 away

01:22:09.780 from

01:22:09.980 the

01:22:10.140 principles

01:22:10.580 in order

01:22:11.000 to

01:22:11.140 protect

01:22:11.460 issues

01:22:11.840 such

01:22:12.120 as

01:22:12.320 woke

01:22:12.640 ideology

01:22:13.720 which

01:22:14.020 we've

01:22:14.240 seen

01:22:14.420 in the

01:22:14.680 courts

01:22:14.960 recently

01:22:15.540 to

01:22:15.860 prevent

01:22:16.220 mass

01:22:17.040 immigration

01:22:17.600 they've

01:22:18.220 allowed

01:22:18.540 it

01:22:18.720 because

01:22:19.000 they've

01:22:19.260 changed

01:22:19.540 the rules

01:22:19.880 and

01:22:20.020 regulations

01:22:20.460 expanded

01:22:20.960 the

01:22:21.160 ECHO

01:22:21.760 I

01:22:22.320 don't

01:22:22.460 think

01:22:22.620 we're

01:22:22.840 the

01:22:22.920 ones

01:22:23.120 who

01:22:23.220 are

01:22:23.320 saying

01:22:23.660 we

01:22:24.100 want

01:22:24.260 to

01:22:24.500 restrict

01:22:25.620 it

01:22:25.840 we're

01:22:26.040 more

01:22:26.200 saying

01:22:26.540 go

01:22:26.880 back

01:22:27.140 to

01:22:27.280 the

01:22:27.420 old

01:22:27.600 principles

01:22:28.000 and

01:22:28.200 bring

01:22:28.380 it

01:22:28.500 back

01:22:28.680 to

01:22:28.820 what

01:22:28.960 it

01:22:29.100 was

01:22:29.660 and

01:22:30.040 what

01:22:30.140 was

01:22:30.380 meant

01:22:30.740 to

01:22:30.960 be

01:22:31.200 I

01:22:31.520 completely

01:22:31.920 agree

01:22:32.160 with

01:22:32.360 you

01:22:32.520 I

01:22:32.740 think

01:22:33.040 that

01:22:33.280 this

01:22:33.800 is

01:22:33.960 definitely

01:22:34.360 my

01:22:34.680 side

01:22:35.060 but

01:22:35.800 there

01:22:36.020 are

01:22:36.140 two

01:22:36.360 reactions

01:22:36.860 some

01:22:37.220 people

01:22:37.440 are

01:22:37.620 saying

01:22:37.860 well

01:22:38.120 no

01:22:38.500 this

01:22:38.840 we

01:22:39.740 should

01:22:40.220 go

01:22:40.720 we

01:22:41.140 should

01:22:41.560 respect

01:22:42.000 the

01:22:42.240 rule

01:22:42.420 of

01:22:42.560 law

01:22:42.720 and

01:22:43.120 the

01:22:43.200 other

01:22:43.320 are

01:22:43.480 saying

01:22:43.660 that

01:22:43.800 the

01:22:43.940 rule

01:22:44.100 of

01:22:44.220 law

01:22:44.360 is

01:22:44.560 the

01:22:44.700 problem

01:22:45.440 I

01:22:46.080 side

01:22:46.620 with

01:22:46.880 what

01:22:47.760 you

01:22:47.920 said

01:22:48.120 not

01:22:48.400 to

01:22:48.600 mention

01:22:48.920 the

01:22:49.120 sort

01:22:49.320 of

01:22:49.720 open

01:22:49.980 society

01:22:50.440 George

01:22:50.840 Soros

01:22:51.260 funded

01:22:51.800 DAs

01:22:53.040 that

01:22:53.200 seem

01:22:53.500 to

01:22:53.720 proactively

01:22:54.420 pervert

01:22:54.980 the

01:22:55.180 course

01:22:55.400 of

01:22:55.520 justice

01:22:55.880 just

01:22:58.180 real

01:22:58.440 quick

01:22:58.640 to

01:22:58.780 say

01:22:59.000 this

01:22:59.540 Dan

01:22:59.880 O'Donnell

01:23:00.360 whoever

01:23:00.660 that

01:23:00.980 is

01:23:01.240 directly

01:23:01.620 underneath

01:23:01.940 that

01:23:02.200 tweet

01:23:02.760 nice

01:23:04.580 what a

01:23:06.460 dunk

01:23:06.800 anyway

01:23:07.980 just

01:23:08.880 while I'm

01:23:09.140 staring

01:23:09.460 at it

01:23:09.760 they got

01:23:10.840 him

01:23:11.000 good

01:23:11.240 or

01:23:11.940 maybe

01:23:12.200 we

01:23:12.740 become

01:23:13.040 smarter

01:23:13.560 and

01:23:13.740 we

01:23:13.860 just

01:23:14.100 take

01:23:14.940 over

01:23:15.200 the

01:23:15.500 BBC

01:23:16.040 by

01:23:16.400 putting

01:23:16.620 all

01:23:16.820 our

01:23:16.980 people

01:23:17.260 as

01:23:17.420 executives

01:23:17.980 that

01:23:18.300 we

01:23:18.400 introduce

01:23:18.800 a

01:23:19.000 new

01:23:19.180 human

01:23:19.520 rights

01:23:19.840 act

01:23:20.200 that

01:23:20.760 actually

01:23:21.040 says

01:23:21.360 it

01:23:21.540 instead

01:23:22.600 of

01:23:22.800 having

01:23:23.180 woke

01:23:23.540 men

01:23:23.820 can

01:23:24.700 be

01:23:24.860 women

01:23:25.900 and

01:23:26.080 women

01:23:26.260 can

01:23:26.460 be

01:23:26.580 men

01:23:26.860 you

01:23:27.080 just

01:23:27.260 turn

01:23:27.460 around

01:23:27.660 and

01:23:27.820 say

01:23:28.020 no

01:23:28.340 we

01:23:28.780 institute

01:23:29.200 our

01:23:29.560 rules

01:23:29.820 that

01:23:30.000 you

01:23:30.120 can't

01:23:30.380 fire

01:23:30.640 anyone

01:23:31.040 who

01:23:31.700 has

01:23:31.960 these

01:23:32.540 views

01:23:32.940 for

01:23:33.180 example

01:23:33.640 and

01:23:34.260 then

01:23:34.420 we

01:23:34.580 remove

01:23:35.080 them

01:23:35.480 from

01:23:35.980 their

01:23:36.160 jobs

01:23:36.440 we

01:23:36.620 change

01:23:36.960 the

01:23:37.120 HR

01:23:37.360 people

01:23:38.600 to

01:23:39.100 have

01:23:39.260 our

01:23:39.460 views

01:23:39.660 do

01:23:39.820 it

01:23:39.960 subtly

01:23:40.380 because

01:23:40.860 that's

01:23:41.100 what

01:23:41.240 they've

01:23:41.520 done

01:23:41.920 that's

01:23:42.440 what

01:23:42.580 they've

01:23:42.900 done

01:23:43.080 it's

01:23:43.480 our

01:23:43.800 turn

01:23:44.120 to

01:23:44.520 have

01:23:44.660 our

01:23:44.920 HR

01:23:45.300 officers

01:23:45.680 in

01:23:45.940 place

01:23:46.220 doing

01:23:46.640 our

01:23:46.900 videos

01:23:47.320 on

01:23:47.680 equality

01:23:48.860 and

01:23:49.220 fairness

01:23:49.560 what that

01:23:50.400 all

01:23:50.640 means

01:23:50.980 and if

01:23:51.340 you

01:23:51.440 don't

01:23:51.600 agree

01:23:51.820 with

01:23:52.020 it

01:23:52.200 then

01:23:52.540 you

01:23:52.640 can

01:23:52.780 go

01:23:53.080 you

01:23:54.160 know

01:23:54.260 perhaps

01:23:54.620 if

01:23:54.820 Putin

01:23:55.100 had

01:23:55.280 understood

01:23:55.660 that

01:23:55.960 and

01:23:56.100 taken

01:23:56.360 the BBC

01:23:56.900 method

01:23:57.360 we

01:23:57.580 wouldn't

01:23:57.760 be

01:23:57.880 where

01:23:58.040 we

01:23:58.180 were

01:23:58.340 today

01:23:58.720 because

01:23:58.940 he

01:23:59.060 did

01:23:59.180 learn

01:23:59.400 it

01:23:59.560 more

01:23:59.740 smartly

01:24:00.140 I

01:24:00.300 don't

01:24:00.480 know

01:24:00.640 the

01:24:01.220 end

01:24:01.360 of

01:24:01.460 the

01:24:01.560 day

01:24:01.780 is

01:24:02.000 we

01:24:02.160 must

01:24:02.360 protect

01:24:02.720 our

01:24:02.940 own

01:24:03.120 principles

01:24:03.520 surely

01:24:03.960 protect

01:24:04.880 the fact

01:24:05.340 that

01:24:05.600 we're

01:24:06.120 not

01:24:06.340 going

01:24:06.540 to

01:24:06.660 go

01:24:06.800 down

01:24:07.100 their

01:24:16.640 democracy

01:24:17.260 with

01:24:18.040 our

01:24:18.220 own

01:24:18.480 rule

01:24:18.700 of

01:24:18.840 law

01:24:19.040 in

01:24:19.220 there

01:24:19.360 that

01:24:19.520 works

01:24:19.940 and

01:24:20.140 not

01:24:20.340 allow

01:24:20.600 them

01:24:20.780 to

01:24:20.960 deflect

01:24:21.320 from

01:24:21.600 that

01:24:21.840 or

01:24:22.240 create

01:24:22.520 images

01:24:22.900 where

01:24:23.260 you

01:24:23.420 can

01:24:23.600 turn

01:24:23.820 around

01:24:24.020 and

01:24:24.180 say

01:24:24.420 MS-13

01:24:25.180 is

01:24:25.440 the

01:24:25.600 same

01:24:25.820 as

01:24:25.960 people

01:24:26.300 sitting

01:24:27.040 in

01:24:27.280 Auschwitz

01:24:27.780 which

01:24:28.420 I

01:24:28.700 find

01:24:29.120 utterly

01:24:29.880 appalling

01:24:30.900 yeah

01:24:32.200 appalling

01:24:32.520 is the

01:24:32.780 word

01:24:33.020 for

01:24:33.180 that

01:24:33.460 yes

01:24:33.860 yeah

01:24:34.820 right

01:24:35.860 so

01:24:36.380 should

01:24:37.240 we

01:24:37.340 go to

01:24:37.580 the

01:24:37.680 comments

01:24:38.020 yeah

01:24:39.100 let's

01:24:39.400 see

01:24:39.720 we

01:24:41.920 have

01:24:42.080 video

01:24:42.380 Samson

01:24:42.880 yeah

01:24:44.720 okay

01:24:45.020 okay

01:24:46.100 John

01:24:47.280 Matz

01:24:47.660 says

01:24:49.300 I can't

01:24:50.200 believe

01:24:50.440 Trump

01:24:51.060 tricked

01:24:51.420 the

01:24:51.580 Democrats

01:24:51.920 into

01:24:52.380 being

01:24:52.720 pro

01:24:53.040 MS-13

01:24:53.840 yeah

01:24:54.960 like the

01:24:58.600 simplest

01:24:58.980 4D

01:24:59.440 it wasn't

01:24:59.740 even 4D

01:25:00.180 chess

01:25:00.340 it was

01:25:00.480 just

01:25:00.560 normal

01:25:00.820 chess

01:25:01.180 made

01:25:01.940 a move

01:25:02.460 and the

01:25:03.000 Democrats

01:25:03.380 you can

01:25:04.240 just see

01:25:04.620 them with

01:25:04.840 their arms

01:25:05.200 out in

01:25:05.440 there

01:25:05.580 free

01:25:05.840 Mandela

01:25:06.240 on that

01:25:06.640 side

01:25:06.900 free

01:25:07.160 MS-13

01:25:07.880 on the

01:25:08.260 other

01:25:08.440 yeah

01:25:08.880 hypocrisy

01:25:10.080 it's insane

01:25:10.620 that's

01:25:11.080 nonsense

01:25:11.500 that was

01:25:13.960 well played

01:25:14.480 by Trump

01:25:14.980 Sliggestone

01:25:15.800 17

01:25:16.260 again

01:25:16.640 says

01:25:17.080 Democrats

01:25:18.460 protested

01:25:19.100 in front

01:25:19.400 of a

01:25:19.620 courthouse

01:25:20.020 to

01:25:20.200 intimidate

01:25:20.740 the

01:25:20.860 Derek

01:25:21.100 Chauvin

01:25:21.460 jury

01:25:21.840 but

01:25:22.400 will

01:25:22.540 move

01:25:22.760 heaven

01:25:22.960 and

01:25:23.140 earth

01:25:23.420 to

01:25:24.160 bring

01:25:24.400 a

01:25:24.660 turbo

01:25:25.000 murderer

01:25:25.500 back

01:25:26.000 to

01:25:26.140 the

01:25:26.260 US

01:25:26.580 the

01:25:26.960 party

01:25:27.360 of

01:25:27.560 anarcho

01:25:28.060 tyranny

01:25:28.340 absolutely

01:25:28.880 yeah

01:25:30.300 that's actually

01:25:30.860 quite important

01:25:31.420 point

01:25:31.660 yeah

01:25:32.240 perfectly

01:25:33.120 perfectly

01:25:33.760 put

01:25:34.000 almost

01:25:34.380 Dragon

01:25:35.380 Lady

01:25:35.660 Chris

01:25:35.960 says

01:25:36.320 and

01:25:37.660 he

01:25:37.760 was

01:25:37.880 arrested

01:25:38.200 while

01:25:38.780 hanging out

01:25:39.140 with MS-13

01:25:39.860 members

01:25:40.420 members of

01:25:42.040 the same

01:25:42.360 gang

01:25:42.700 he claimed

01:25:43.360 would kill

01:25:43.740 him

01:25:43.940 if he

01:25:44.220 went back

01:25:44.600 to El

01:25:44.900 Salvador

01:25:45.220 well you

01:25:46.620 made your

01:25:46.920 bed mate

01:25:47.520 how is

01:25:50.000 that

01:25:50.340 Trump's

01:25:51.440 problem

01:25:52.240 the problem

01:25:54.500 is that

01:25:54.920 a lot

01:25:55.260 of the

01:25:55.740 MS-13

01:25:57.700 and if

01:25:58.080 he returned

01:25:58.520 to Salvador

01:25:59.120 MS-13

01:26:00.160 would kill

01:26:00.720 him rather

01:26:01.060 than another

01:26:01.580 gang

01:26:01.920 it's not

01:26:03.460 much of a

01:26:03.860 gang

01:26:04.060 is it

01:26:04.460 the problem

01:26:05.660 is at

01:26:06.240 the end

01:26:06.520 of the

01:26:06.760 day

01:26:06.960 though

01:26:07.120 that

01:26:07.360 we

01:26:07.720 feel

01:26:08.160 constantly

01:26:08.980 that

01:26:09.960 several

01:26:10.760 governments

01:26:11.240 and several

01:26:11.720 people

01:26:12.020 are constantly

01:26:12.620 making

01:26:13.000 excuses

01:26:13.580 for

01:26:14.240 not

01:26:16.280 necessarily

01:26:17.640 the best

01:26:18.140 of us

01:26:18.460 let's put

01:26:18.960 it this

01:26:19.260 way

01:26:19.500 I was

01:26:19.720 going to

01:26:19.860 say

01:26:20.000 scumbags

01:26:20.500 but

01:26:20.720 yeah

01:26:20.880 and when

01:26:21.260 we're

01:26:21.460 talking

01:26:21.680 about

01:26:21.920 law

01:26:22.120 abiding

01:26:22.420 citizens

01:26:22.860 we're

01:26:23.220 always

01:26:23.580 the

01:26:23.760 people

01:26:24.000 who are

01:26:24.200 going

01:26:24.320 to

01:26:24.420 take

01:26:24.600 the

01:26:24.760 hit

01:26:24.940 always

01:26:25.800 those

01:26:26.820 whose

01:26:27.100 rights

01:26:27.380 are

01:26:27.540 going

01:26:27.660 to

01:26:27.700 be

01:26:27.840 restricted

01:26:28.280 in

01:26:28.760 order

01:26:28.960 for

01:26:29.500 others

01:26:29.960 to be

01:26:30.280 treated

01:26:30.520 well

01:26:31.040 and

01:26:31.220 fairly

01:26:31.520 where's

01:26:32.660 all the

01:26:32.940 fairness

01:26:33.200 with

01:26:33.500 us

01:26:33.740 nowhere

01:26:34.880 right

01:26:35.800 so

01:26:36.080 should

01:26:36.820 we

01:26:36.960 go

01:26:37.080 to

01:26:37.200 the

01:26:37.460 video

01:26:37.800 by

01:26:38.000 ramshackle

01:26:38.580 order

01:26:38.800 hello

01:26:39.760 if you

01:26:41.640 have

01:26:41.840 fruit

01:26:42.140 trees

01:26:42.460 you'll

01:26:42.760 probably

01:26:43.080 notice

01:26:43.700 these

01:26:44.020 shoots

01:26:44.360 coming up

01:26:44.880 from

01:26:45.020 the

01:26:45.140 base

01:26:45.440 that's

01:26:46.400 because

01:26:46.660 the

01:26:46.920 rootstock

01:26:47.460 is

01:26:47.920 trying

01:26:48.220 to

01:26:48.460 bypass

01:26:48.960 the

01:26:49.640 grafted

01:26:50.260 tree

01:26:50.580 on

01:26:50.820 the

01:26:50.980 top

01:26:51.280 the

01:26:52.220 graft

01:26:52.680 is

01:26:52.980 the

01:26:53.160 fruit

01:26:53.460 that

01:26:53.660 you

01:26:53.780 want

01:26:54.100 and

01:26:54.400 the

01:26:54.540 rootstock

01:26:55.080 is

01:26:55.520 the

01:26:55.720 vigorously

01:26:56.440 growing

01:26:56.920 rootstock

01:26:57.400 in

01:26:57.580 the

01:26:57.680 ground

01:26:58.020 that

01:26:58.280 gives

01:26:58.480 it

01:26:58.600 all

01:26:58.780 of

01:26:58.880 its

01:26:58.980 nutrition

01:26:59.440 the

01:27:00.280 rootstock

01:27:00.780 always

01:27:01.460 wants

01:27:01.780 to

01:27:01.940 take

01:27:02.180 over

01:27:02.480 and

01:27:03.300 you

01:27:03.460 have

01:27:03.620 to

01:27:03.760 keep

01:27:03.980 cutting

01:27:04.400 it

01:27:04.560 back

01:27:04.840 to

01:27:05.260 make

01:27:05.420 sure

01:27:05.580 that

01:27:05.760 doesn't

01:27:06.020 happen

01:27:06.380 that's

01:27:08.260 maybe

01:27:08.480 why

01:27:08.720 my

01:27:08.960 cherry

01:27:09.220 tree

01:27:09.500 is

01:27:09.660 not

01:27:09.800 going

01:27:09.920 to

01:27:10.000 have

01:27:10.140 so

01:27:10.340 much

01:27:10.540 because

01:27:10.700 I've

01:27:10.860 allowed

01:27:11.020 two

01:27:11.240 of

01:27:11.340 them

01:27:11.400 to

01:27:11.520 grow

01:27:11.640 really

01:27:11.880 big

01:27:12.140 I wonder

01:27:13.100 whether

01:27:13.340 this

01:27:13.600 is

01:27:13.740 an

01:27:13.920 analogy

01:27:14.380 for

01:27:14.640 something

01:27:15.020 because

01:27:15.280 I

01:27:15.400 won't

01:27:19.400 say

01:27:19.560 anything

01:27:19.780 I wish

01:27:21.120 I had

01:27:21.520 a garden

01:27:22.260 with a

01:27:22.540 tree

01:27:22.680 I live

01:27:22.980 in a

01:27:23.200 flat

01:27:23.360 that

01:27:23.480 hasn't

01:27:23.680 even

01:27:23.800 got

01:27:23.920 a

01:27:24.000 balcony

01:27:24.180 I'm

01:27:26.300 very

01:27:26.480 look

01:27:26.700 I

01:27:26.840 have

01:27:26.920 a

01:27:27.020 huge

01:27:27.240 garden

01:27:27.580 but

01:27:27.780 it

01:27:27.920 just

01:27:28.140 takes

01:27:28.460 up

01:27:28.640 so

01:27:28.800 much

01:27:29.000 your

01:27:29.160 time

01:27:29.380 in

01:27:29.500 summer

01:27:29.740 trust

01:27:30.200 me

01:27:30.400 yeah

01:27:31.240 okay

01:27:31.440 do

01:27:31.620 we

01:27:31.720 have

01:27:31.880 another

01:27:32.080 video

01:27:32.380 should

01:27:32.620 we

01:27:32.760 yeah

01:27:33.000 Jared

01:27:33.500 King

01:27:33.720 millions

01:27:35.060 of foreign

01:27:35.800 fighting age

01:27:36.400 males

01:27:36.780 roam the

01:27:37.260 streets

01:27:37.560 with

01:27:37.760 idle

01:27:38.020 hands

01:27:38.500 African

01:27:39.240 teens

01:27:39.700 hold

01:27:40.020 knife

01:27:40.300 duels

01:27:40.620 in

01:27:40.760 the

01:27:40.900 street

01:27:41.220 the

01:27:41.820 Windsors

01:27:42.260 have

01:27:42.540 presided

01:27:43.040 over

01:27:43.280 the

01:27:43.420 most

01:27:43.640 shocking

01:27:44.100 loss

01:27:44.460 of

01:27:44.620 prominence

01:27:45.100 possibly

01:27:45.700 in

01:27:45.900 all

01:27:46.040 of

01:27:46.180 history

01:27:46.580 the

01:27:47.500 Windsors

01:27:47.860 have

01:27:48.060 forfeited

01:27:48.580 their

01:27:48.820 mandate

01:27:49.220 of

01:27:49.440 heaven

01:27:49.720 my

01:27:50.360 first

01:27:50.640 act

01:27:50.940 will

01:27:51.120 be

01:27:51.260 to

01:27:51.460 dissolve

01:27:51.800 parliament

01:27:52.300 migrants

01:27:53.020 arriving

01:27:53.400 by boat

01:27:53.900 will

01:27:54.100 be

01:27:54.240 turned

01:27:54.480 away

01:27:54.720 at

01:27:54.860 gunpoint

01:27:55.360 reinstitute

01:27:56.120 the

01:27:56.300 death

01:27:56.500 penalty

01:27:56.940 mass

01:27:57.640 deportation

01:27:58.580 I

01:27:59.160 do

01:27:59.300 not

01:27:59.480 claim

01:27:59.700 the

01:27:59.860 crown

01:28:00.160 by

01:28:00.400 right

01:28:00.600 of

01:28:00.720 blood

01:28:01.060 but

01:28:01.640 by

01:28:01.820 right

01:28:02.020 of

01:28:02.140 God

01:28:02.520 maybe

01:28:06.640 dissolve

01:28:07.040 parliament

01:28:07.580 and do

01:28:08.240 away

01:28:08.400 with

01:28:08.540 the

01:28:08.640 monarchy

01:28:08.940 so

01:28:09.740 we're

01:28:09.980 talking

01:28:10.420 Jared

01:28:11.580 King

01:28:11.880 or

01:28:12.040 Lord

01:28:12.700 Protector

01:28:13.200 let's

01:28:13.400 say

01:28:13.520 Lord

01:28:13.800 Protector

01:28:14.320 let's

01:28:14.660 call it

01:28:15.040 Lord

01:28:15.280 Protector

01:28:15.760 territory

01:28:16.320 we're

01:28:16.680 in

01:28:16.840 here

01:28:17.080 yeah

01:28:18.740 no

01:28:19.000 we

01:28:19.400 did

01:28:19.600 we

01:28:19.900 did

01:28:20.120 a

01:28:20.380 tier list

01:28:21.320 for

01:28:21.520 monarchs

01:28:22.140 and

01:28:22.900 Carl

01:28:23.660 and

01:28:24.020 Ralph

01:28:24.280 Heidel

01:28:24.520 Mancou

01:28:24.960 kind of

01:28:25.840 insisted

01:28:26.220 that

01:28:26.480 Queen

01:28:26.660 Elizabeth

01:28:27.000 be

01:28:27.460 in the

01:28:28.620 top

01:28:28.800 tier

01:28:29.160 I

01:28:31.180 disagreed

01:28:32.280 with

01:28:32.440 that

01:28:32.600 as he

01:28:33.460 said

01:28:33.760 I think

01:28:34.220 she oversaw

01:28:34.960 Elizabeth

01:28:35.620 the

01:28:35.900 silent

01:28:36.360 Elizabeth

01:28:37.240 the

01:28:37.500 absent

01:28:37.960 I

01:28:38.640 don't

01:28:38.780 want to

01:28:38.980 pour

01:28:39.340 scorn

01:28:39.680 on her

01:28:39.980 but

01:28:40.300 yeah

01:28:40.840 oversaw

01:28:41.400 a period

01:28:41.820 of

01:28:42.060 giant

01:28:42.660 decline

01:28:43.140 unbelievable

01:28:43.720 decline

01:28:44.220 I

01:28:44.620 don't

01:28:45.020 think

01:28:45.200 she

01:28:45.340 really

01:28:45.580 deserves

01:28:45.960 to be

01:28:46.220 in

01:28:46.300 the

01:28:46.420 top

01:28:46.640 tier

01:28:47.260 anyway

01:28:48.580 right

01:28:49.620 let's

01:28:49.860 go to

01:28:50.140 the

01:28:50.220 next

01:28:50.400 one

01:28:50.640 the

01:28:51.200 dark

01:28:51.440 light

01:28:51.620 thing

01:28:51.820 can

01:28:51.940 already

01:28:52.120 be

01:28:52.220 done

01:28:52.380 with

01:28:52.560 5G

01:28:53.220 suddenly

01:28:54.020 AI

01:28:54.480 has

01:28:54.840 turned

01:28:55.220 every

01:28:56.120 wifi

01:28:56.580 router

01:28:57.000 into

01:28:57.740 a

01:28:58.020 camera

01:28:58.400 that

01:28:58.660 can

01:28:58.800 work

01:28:59.040 in

01:28:59.180 the

01:28:59.280 dark

01:28:59.580 specially

01:29:00.460 tuned

01:29:00.880 for

01:29:01.100 tracking

01:29:01.420 living

01:29:01.800 beings

01:29:02.380 the

01:29:03.000 wifi

01:29:03.800 router

01:29:04.180 and

01:29:04.820 they

01:29:04.940 just

01:29:05.100 learn

01:29:05.420 to

01:29:05.640 predict

01:29:05.940 like

01:29:06.200 this

01:29:06.900 is

01:29:07.040 where

01:29:07.200 the

01:29:07.380 human

01:29:07.560 beings

01:29:07.820 are

01:29:08.020 then

01:29:08.240 they

01:29:08.420 took

01:29:08.840 away

01:29:09.180 the

01:29:09.560 camera

01:29:09.840 so

01:29:10.260 all

01:29:10.920 the

01:29:11.240 AI

01:29:11.560 had

01:29:11.960 was

01:29:12.260 the

01:29:12.480 language

01:29:12.940 of

01:29:13.240 radio

01:29:13.520 signals

01:29:13.860 bouncing

01:29:18.580 3D

01:29:19.480 pose

01:29:20.220 estimation

01:29:20.780 scary

01:29:23.700 that

01:29:24.280 is

01:29:24.600 exceedingly

01:29:25.500 scary

01:29:25.960 samsung

01:29:26.620 do we

01:29:26.960 have

01:29:27.220 also

01:29:28.100 five

01:29:28.560 minutes

01:29:28.980 for

01:29:29.460 next

01:29:29.840 comments

01:29:30.100 yeah

01:29:30.260 okay

01:29:30.480 great

01:29:30.720 yeah

01:29:31.200 oh

01:29:31.340 just

01:29:31.600 one

01:29:31.800 thing

01:29:31.920 i'll

01:29:32.040 quickly

01:29:32.220 say

01:29:32.460 is

01:29:32.620 i'm

01:29:33.320 extremely

01:29:34.140 suspicious

01:29:35.100 and concerned

01:29:35.780 about

01:29:36.080 AI

01:29:36.360 yeah

01:29:37.000 me too

01:29:37.520 i like

01:29:37.960 the world

01:29:38.720 was okay

01:29:39.280 with

01:29:39.760 before we

01:29:40.260 had

01:29:40.420 AI

01:29:40.760 yeah

01:29:41.520 yeah

01:29:41.880 okay

01:29:42.460 so it

01:29:42.880 can do

01:29:43.240 things a

01:29:43.680 bit

01:29:43.800 quicker

01:29:44.160 so

01:29:44.780 someone

01:29:45.000 who's

01:29:45.220 lazy

01:29:45.640 can

01:29:45.940 get

01:29:46.480 chat

01:29:47.000 GBT

01:29:47.440 to write

01:29:47.720 an

01:29:47.840 essay

01:29:48.080 for

01:29:48.360 them

01:29:48.580 yeah

01:29:48.980 yeah

01:29:49.740 great

01:29:50.140 yeah

01:29:51.980 the price

01:29:52.540 for destroying

01:29:53.160 civilization

01:29:53.720 yeah

01:29:53.960 right

01:29:54.160 yeah

01:29:54.440 it comes

01:29:55.180 at the

01:29:55.400 low

01:29:55.600 low

01:29:55.780 price

01:29:56.160 of

01:29:56.540 all

01:29:57.240 human

01:29:57.560 liberty

01:29:57.980 great

01:29:59.740 brilliant

01:30:00.860 did you

01:30:01.740 get an

01:30:02.080 A on

01:30:02.360 your test

01:30:02.900 yes

01:30:03.240 you did

01:30:03.740 did you

01:30:04.140 watch the

01:30:04.700 whole of

01:30:05.200 Europe

01:30:05.420 burn

01:30:05.880 oh

01:30:06.500 that was

01:30:06.800 fine

01:30:07.200 yeah

01:30:07.700 okay

01:30:08.100 we got

01:30:09.320 an A

01:30:09.700 we have

01:30:11.500 another by

01:30:12.080 Sam

01:30:12.360 Weston

01:30:12.800 so

01:30:15.160 i'm going

01:30:16.320 to be doing

01:30:16.800 a series

01:30:17.320 of videos

01:30:18.120 where

01:30:19.460 i'll be

01:30:20.160 talking

01:30:20.500 about

01:30:21.040 adolescence

01:30:22.000 as

01:30:22.840 a drama

01:30:23.760 or a

01:30:24.760 piece

01:30:25.020 of art

01:30:25.780 so in

01:30:27.520 other words

01:30:27.960 purely the

01:30:29.140 artistic side

01:30:29.980 of it

01:30:30.440 and why

01:30:31.700 in reality

01:30:32.400 it's little

01:30:33.580 more than

01:30:34.280 pretentious

01:30:35.540 window-licking

01:30:36.700 conceit

01:30:37.500 and utterly

01:30:39.080 ghastly

01:30:39.840 tripe

01:30:40.540 i can

01:30:44.180 see that

01:30:44.480 as the

01:30:44.720 headline

01:30:45.000 for

01:30:45.200 adolescence

01:30:45.760 too

01:30:46.020 i watched

01:30:46.520 it

01:30:46.780 yeah

01:30:47.240 did you

01:30:47.700 yeah

01:30:48.020 i'm

01:30:48.520 refusing

01:30:48.920 to

01:30:49.340 yeah

01:30:49.840 was it

01:30:50.620 was it

01:30:51.240 i mean

01:30:51.840 it was

01:30:53.180 50-50

01:30:54.000 it

01:30:54.620 it

01:30:55.000 it

01:30:55.020 it

01:30:55.380 ended

01:30:55.680 with

01:30:55.940 some

01:30:56.140 good

01:30:56.520 bits

01:30:57.720 because

01:30:58.700 it

01:30:58.920 wasn't

01:30:59.260 just

01:30:59.660 just

01:31:01.920 the

01:31:02.120 media

01:31:02.340 did

01:31:02.620 this

01:31:02.840 because

01:31:03.040 towards

01:31:03.620 the end

01:31:04.160 there

01:31:04.380 the

01:31:04.840 couple

01:31:05.300 is

01:31:05.460 talking

01:31:05.700 about

01:31:05.940 the

01:31:06.120 son

01:31:06.280 say

01:31:06.460 how

01:31:06.860 the

01:31:07.060 hell

01:31:07.360 did

01:31:07.520 he

01:31:07.660 end

01:31:07.840 up

01:31:08.000 this

01:31:08.180 way

01:31:08.380 we

01:31:09.020 raised

01:31:09.380 him

01:31:09.480 the

01:31:09.640 same

01:31:09.800 way

01:31:09.960 we

01:31:10.100 raised

01:31:10.400 the

01:31:10.980 daughter

01:31:12.780 and

01:31:14.060 say

01:31:15.100 at

01:31:15.500 some

01:31:15.680 point

01:31:15.820 you

01:31:15.940 say

01:31:16.080 okay

01:31:16.300 just

01:31:16.640 you

01:31:16.860 can't

01:31:17.120 control

01:31:17.380 everything

01:31:17.800 as

01:31:18.000 a

01:31:18.120 parent

01:31:18.380 which

01:31:18.900 is

01:31:19.060 good

01:31:19.280 you

01:31:19.760 know

01:31:19.900 in

01:31:20.100 terms

01:31:20.520 of

01:31:20.800 being

01:31:21.320 against

01:31:21.700 helicopter

01:31:22.160 parenting

01:31:22.620 but

01:31:23.460 perhaps

01:31:23.840 with

01:31:24.060 that

01:31:24.260 boy

01:31:24.520 they

01:31:24.700 needed

01:31:24.920 to

01:31:25.100 be

01:31:25.220 a

01:31:25.320 bit

01:31:25.440 more

01:31:25.780 helicopter

01:31:26.400 ish

01:31:26.840 yeah

01:31:28.240 no

01:31:28.520 I've

01:31:28.740 watched

01:31:29.000 it

01:31:29.180 and I

01:31:29.560 thought

01:31:30.420 that

01:31:31.260 the

01:31:31.580 beginning

01:31:31.800 parts

01:31:32.200 about

01:31:32.380 the

01:31:32.520 law

01:31:32.700 and

01:31:32.820 the

01:31:32.920 police

01:31:33.160 was

01:31:33.320 probably

01:31:33.620 a bit

01:31:33.860 bit

01:31:33.980 accurate

01:31:34.460 in

01:31:34.600 the way

01:31:34.780 that

01:31:34.900 actually

01:31:35.180 happens

01:31:35.560 and

01:31:35.740 the

01:31:35.820 way

01:31:35.900 the

01:31:36.020 process

01:31:36.380 goes

01:31:36.720 through

01:31:37.040 my

01:31:38.640 disagreements

01:31:39.200 with it

01:31:39.540 were

01:31:39.680 very

01:31:40.120 intense

01:31:40.840 about

01:31:41.160 the

01:31:41.340 way

01:31:41.540 that

01:31:41.760 it

01:31:42.040 just

01:31:48.380 marketing

01:31:48.800 the

01:31:48.980 immoral

01:31:49.300 things

01:31:49.580 that

01:31:49.700 you

01:31:49.780 talked

01:31:50.020 about

01:31:50.220 at

01:31:50.340 the

01:31:50.420 end

01:31:50.560 the

01:31:50.720 pain

01:31:51.080 that

01:31:51.220 the

01:31:51.340 parents

01:31:51.640 went

01:31:51.860 through

01:31:52.060 about

01:31:52.260 the

01:31:52.400 loss

01:31:52.620 the

01:31:52.820 suffering

01:31:53.900 that

01:31:54.140 they

01:31:54.280 would

01:31:54.420 have

01:31:54.520 got

01:31:54.680 in

01:31:54.800 the

01:31:54.920 community

01:31:55.460 the

01:31:55.820 way

01:31:56.000 that

01:31:56.120 they

01:31:56.220 had

01:31:56.360 to

01:31:56.460 fight

01:31:56.680 back

01:31:57.060 the

01:31:57.240 fact

01:31:57.480 that

01:31:57.660 his

01:31:57.900 van

01:31:59.120 was

01:31:59.380 daubed

01:32:00.460 with

01:32:00.800 various

01:32:01.160 language

01:32:01.600 on it

01:32:01.900 all

01:32:02.120 of that

01:32:02.440 I

01:32:02.560 understand

01:32:03.100 what

01:32:03.300 happened

01:32:03.560 in

01:32:03.720 a

01:32:04.200 working

01:32:04.500 class

01:32:04.760 community

01:32:05.080 I'm

01:32:05.300 not

01:32:05.420 sure

01:32:05.560 that

01:32:05.700 would

01:32:05.920 necessarily

01:32:06.440 have

01:32:06.640 done

01:32:06.760 so

01:32:06.940 because

01:32:07.200 he

01:32:18.380 boy

01:32:18.700 by

01:32:19.840 others

01:32:20.320 in

01:32:20.480 his

01:32:20.640 school

01:32:20.900 the

01:32:21.120 girl

01:32:21.380 was

01:32:21.600 part

01:32:21.840 of

01:32:22.240 a

01:32:22.360 gang

01:32:22.620 that

01:32:22.840 was

01:32:23.000 actually

01:32:23.320 bullying

01:32:23.660 him

01:32:24.020 she

01:32:25.100 was

01:32:25.260 the

01:32:25.360 one

01:32:25.480 who

01:32:25.580 was

01:32:25.700 calling

01:32:25.980 him

01:32:26.140 an

01:32:26.240 incel

01:32:26.680 when

01:32:26.880 he

01:32:26.980 wasn't

01:32:27.220 at

01:32:27.380 all

01:32:27.560 he'd

01:32:27.700 not

01:32:27.840 even

01:32:28.000 been

01:32:28.140 involved

01:32:28.460 in

01:32:28.620 that

01:32:28.820 they

01:32:29.400 ignored

01:32:29.760 the

01:32:29.960 fact

01:32:30.220 that

01:32:30.440 there

01:32:30.660 was

01:32:30.900 a

01:32:31.260 young

01:32:31.700 black

01:32:32.000 girl

01:32:32.260 who

01:32:32.460 attacked

01:32:32.820 a

01:32:33.020 white

01:32:33.240 boy

01:32:33.480 in

01:32:33.640 a

01:32:33.760 school

01:32:34.000 well

01:32:34.560 that

01:32:34.700 kind

01:32:34.880 of

01:32:35.000 am I

01:32:35.780 in

01:32:35.900 trouble

01:32:36.120 yes

01:32:36.640 I

01:32:36.860 think

01:32:37.040 you

01:32:37.200 might

01:32:37.440 be

01:32:37.760 well

01:32:38.300 actually

01:32:38.680 if it

01:32:38.880 was

01:32:38.980 the

01:32:39.080 other

01:32:39.200 way

01:32:39.360 around

01:32:39.660 it

01:32:39.780 would

01:32:39.880 have

01:32:39.980 already

01:32:40.240 been

01:32:40.540 in

01:32:40.980 shackles

01:32:41.460 in a

01:32:41.680 prison

01:32:41.960 to be

01:32:42.660 honest

01:32:42.960 so

01:32:43.500 there

01:32:43.660 was

01:32:43.800 very

01:32:44.120 much

01:32:44.780 you

01:32:45.120 know

01:32:45.380 this

01:32:45.940 kind

01:32:46.220 of

01:32:46.340 anti

01:32:46.840 boys

01:32:47.460 stuff

01:32:47.880 on

01:32:48.040 it

01:32:48.200 so

01:32:48.560 you

01:32:48.920 know

01:32:49.060 I

01:32:49.260 appreciated

01:32:50.660 the

01:32:50.860 artistic

01:32:51.260 right

01:32:51.680 not to

01:32:52.220 mention

01:32:52.520 the

01:32:52.880 race

01:32:53.200 swapping

01:32:53.520 of

01:32:53.740 the

01:32:53.880 perpetrator

01:32:54.420 I

01:32:54.780 haven't

01:32:55.020 watched

01:32:55.180 it

01:32:55.300 I've

01:32:55.360 got

01:32:55.460 no

01:32:55.740 intention

01:32:56.180 of

01:32:56.380 watching

01:32:56.620 it

01:32:56.720 but

01:32:56.840 I

01:32:56.940 have

01:32:57.120 heard

01:32:57.460 I

01:32:57.600 think

01:32:57.740 from

01:32:57.920 Carl

01:32:58.300 and

01:32:58.500 exactly

01:33:07.760 narrative

01:33:08.320 about

01:33:08.680 it

01:33:08.960 yeah

01:33:09.320 the

01:33:09.600 inadvertent

01:33:10.280 one

01:33:10.520 yeah

01:33:10.820 that

01:33:11.160 you

01:33:11.280 can

01:33:11.580 view

01:33:11.860 it

01:33:12.180 I

01:33:12.500 think

01:33:12.740 so

01:33:12.880 the

01:33:13.000 way

01:33:13.940 I

01:33:14.100 saw

01:33:14.300 it

01:33:14.440 the

01:33:14.620 worst

01:33:14.880 thing

01:33:15.100 was

01:33:15.260 the

01:33:15.400 marketing

01:33:15.780 right

01:33:16.480 so

01:33:16.680 I

01:33:16.840 think

01:33:17.060 I'm

01:33:17.460 not

01:33:17.600 going to

01:33:17.800 watch

01:33:17.980 Barbie

01:33:18.280 in

01:33:18.440 any

01:33:18.640 shape

01:33:18.820 to

01:33:19.400 be

01:33:19.600 honest

01:33:19.800 how

01:33:20.820 counter

01:33:21.220 it

01:33:21.380 could

01:33:21.500 be

01:33:21.720 because

01:33:22.480 we

01:33:22.680 don't

01:33:22.860 have

01:33:23.140 that

01:33:23.400 much

01:33:23.640 time

01:33:23.920 I

01:33:24.060 think

01:33:24.240 we

01:33:24.400 should

01:33:24.560 just

01:33:24.860 focus

01:33:25.200 on

01:33:25.380 reading

01:33:25.620 two

01:33:25.920 comments

01:33:26.280 from

01:33:26.500 each

01:33:26.800 section

01:33:27.380 should

01:33:28.080 we

01:33:28.200 go

01:33:28.380 right

01:33:29.020 so

01:33:29.380 the

01:33:30.260 first

01:33:30.560 one

01:33:30.860 Sophie

01:33:31.660 Liv

01:33:32.000 another

01:33:33.420 thing

01:33:33.720 about

01:33:33.960 this

01:33:34.200 idea

01:33:34.480 of

01:33:34.640 taking

01:33:34.920 refugees

01:33:35.500 when

01:33:35.760 the

01:33:35.920 conflict

01:33:36.260 is

01:33:36.540 resolved

01:33:36.920 they're

01:33:37.180 supposed

01:33:37.440 to

01:33:37.700 go

01:33:37.940 home

01:33:38.380 the

01:33:38.960 idea

01:33:39.200 is

01:33:39.320 we

01:33:39.440 keep

01:33:39.680 them

01:33:39.880 safe

01:33:40.180 while

01:33:40.440 the

01:33:40.620 conflict

01:33:40.940 is

01:33:41.220 ongoing

01:33:41.620 and

01:33:41.960 then

01:33:42.140 when

01:33:42.380 it

01:33:42.520 is

01:33:42.700 over

01:33:42.980 they

01:33:43.180 can

01:33:43.360 go

01:33:43.560 home

01:33:43.860 and

01:33:44.340 work

01:33:44.560 to

01:33:44.720 rebuild

01:33:45.020 their

01:33:45.220 country

01:33:45.580 it

01:33:45.800 was

01:33:45.960 never

01:33:46.240 meant

01:33:46.520 to

01:33:46.660 translate

01:33:47.180 to

01:33:47.700 them

01:33:47.880 staying

01:33:48.160 forever

01:33:48.560 somehow

01:33:49.520 though

01:33:49.960 happens

01:33:51.020 just

01:33:51.320 let's

01:33:51.880 look at

01:33:52.200 Syria

01:33:52.520 and

01:33:52.720 Germany

01:33:53.060 that's

01:33:53.480 right

01:33:53.660 Omar

01:33:54.320 Awad

01:33:54.700 the

01:33:54.920 thing

01:33:55.200 that

01:33:55.360 infuriates

01:33:56.000 me

01:33:56.180 with

01:33:56.460 the

01:33:56.720 good

01:33:57.140 immigrant

01:33:57.580 argument

01:33:58.100 is

01:33:58.440 that

01:33:58.620 if

01:33:58.840 you

01:33:58.960 push

01:33:59.200 them

01:33:59.400 even

01:33:59.620 a

01:33:59.820 tiny

01:34:00.060 bit

01:34:00.400 they

01:34:00.940 will

01:34:01.100 readily

01:34:01.500 admit

01:34:01.940 they

01:34:02.240 wouldn't

01:34:02.660 accept

01:34:02.980 the

01:34:03.160 reasonable

01:34:03.520 compromise

01:34:04.060 of

01:34:04.500 can

01:34:05.020 we

01:34:05.160 at least

01:34:05.620 get rid

01:34:06.100 of

01:34:06.400 confirmed

01:34:07.060 criminal

01:34:07.620 migrants

01:34:08.180 the

01:34:08.740 moral

01:34:09.060 posturing

01:34:09.580 is

01:34:09.880 only

01:34:10.160 a

01:34:10.320 tool

01:34:10.560 to

01:34:12.000 bully

01:34:12.260 you

01:34:12.500 into

01:34:12.740 doing

01:34:13.040 what

01:34:13.220 they

01:34:13.360 want

01:34:13.620 do you

01:34:16.100 want

01:34:16.220 to read

01:34:16.500 two

01:34:16.640 of

01:34:16.760 yours

01:34:16.980 sure

01:34:17.880 economic

01:34:19.200 zone

01:34:19.540 17

01:34:20.160 says

01:34:20.780 signal

01:34:22.620 is

01:34:22.880 properly

01:34:23.280 end-to-end

01:34:23.880 encrypted

01:34:24.360 a lot

01:34:25.100 of

01:34:25.220 security

01:34:25.540 people

01:34:25.900 use

01:34:26.200 it

01:34:26.460 yeah

01:34:27.700 fair

01:34:28.260 enough

01:34:28.560 I

01:34:30.340 suspect

01:34:30.780 the

01:34:32.300 NSA

01:34:32.660 that

01:34:33.460 doesn't

01:34:33.680 mean

01:34:33.800 anything

01:34:34.120 to

01:34:34.480 the

01:34:34.580 NSA

01:34:34.900 bods

01:34:35.800 or

01:34:36.000 GCHQ

01:34:36.580 bods

01:34:36.900 but

01:34:37.040 anyway

01:34:37.320 fair

01:34:37.660 enough

01:34:37.840 fair

01:34:38.160 point

01:34:38.420 ramshackle

01:34:39.540 otter

01:34:39.900 says

01:34:40.500 by

01:34:42.420 way

01:34:42.940 no

01:34:43.700 way

01:34:44.060 signal

01:34:44.540 gate

01:34:44.840 was

01:34:45.020 an

01:34:45.140 accident

01:34:45.520 signal

01:34:46.200 gate

01:34:46.440 was

01:34:46.600 an

01:34:46.720 accident

01:34:47.020 in

01:34:47.300 the

01:34:47.420 same

01:34:47.620 way

01:34:47.920 russia

01:34:48.460 blew

01:34:48.680 up

01:34:48.860 its

01:34:48.980 own

01:34:49.140 pipe

01:34:49.460 right

01:34:52.440 and

01:34:53.320 Omar

01:34:53.660 says

01:34:55.740 the

01:34:56.060 biggest

01:34:56.520 weapon

01:34:57.000 in

01:34:57.200 information

01:34:57.800 warfare

01:34:58.240 is

01:34:58.580 confusion

01:34:59.100 living

01:34:59.860 just

01:35:00.260 enough

01:35:00.560 loose

01:35:00.880 ends

01:35:01.200 for

01:35:01.420 people

01:35:01.700 to

01:35:01.920 speculate

01:35:02.300 endlessly

01:35:02.860 but never

01:35:03.620 with

01:35:03.880 certainty

01:35:04.260 the only

01:35:05.000 real measure

01:35:05.700 for who's

01:35:06.260 winning or

01:35:06.740 losing is

01:35:07.280 Trump's

01:35:07.680 approval

01:35:08.020 rating

01:35:08.440 and

01:35:09.680 Arizona

01:35:10.420 there's

01:35:10.720 a rat

01:35:11.100 watching us

01:35:12.380 or watching

01:35:12.820 us

01:35:13.100 that's the

01:35:13.720 only way

01:35:14.100 watching us

01:35:15.960 and subscribing

01:35:16.640 and

01:35:17.100 Arizona

01:35:18.340 desert

01:35:18.660 rat

01:35:19.040 misusing

01:35:20.020 the

01:35:20.240 constitution

01:35:20.780 also

01:35:21.300 waters

01:35:21.580 down

01:35:21.840 the

01:35:22.020 power

01:35:22.280 and

01:35:22.520 efficacy

01:35:22.900 of

01:35:23.160 the

01:35:23.280 constitution

01:35:23.760 absolutely

01:35:24.560 right

01:35:27.620 it was

01:35:29.000 a pleasure

01:35:29.620 to

01:35:29.940 have

01:35:31.020 the

01:35:31.340 to do

01:35:33.480 this

01:35:33.660 today

01:35:34.000 we had

01:35:35.020 a really

01:35:35.300 good

01:35:35.500 discussion

01:35:35.980 I hope

01:35:37.160 you enjoyed

01:35:37.520 it as

01:35:37.860 well

01:35:38.120 and on

01:35:38.940 that

01:35:39.180 note

01:35:39.520 we have

01:35:40.680 to bid

01:35:41.100 you

01:35:41.240 goodbye

01:35:41.620 and see

01:35:42.460 you tomorrow

01:35:42.860 at 1pm

01:35:43.720 goodbye

01:35:44.540 cheerio

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 21, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1147

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