The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1148
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Summary
The Lotus Eaters are joined by Josh and Luca to discuss the death of Pope John Paul III and the scandal surrounding the police cover-up of child sex abuse and cover-ups by the police. They also talk about how the police knew about the grooming gangs and were complicit in covering it up, and why they should have done anything about it.
Transcript
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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Tuesday the 22nd of April 2025.
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I'm joined by Josh and Luca, and today we're going to be talking about how every party in British politics turns into a weak, centrist, diverse, multi-culti civ-nat party.
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And how the police knew about the grooming gangs and were complicit in the cover-up of the grooming gangs, and multiple whistleblowers have come out about this.
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And we are going to then talk about the death of the Pope.
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By the way, there's no future. All the kids are getting raped and the Pope's just died.
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Is it a good or bad omen that the Pope died on Easter Monday, just before we get on to it?
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I think... I mean, I'm not Catholic, but I think it could be seen as a kind of a vision of renewal.
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And I have to explain to people, look, I'm an atheist, but I am also a Protestant.
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I don't normally follow football, but when England's playing...
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When the Protestants are in conflict with the Catholics, I know which side I'm taking.
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So, reform promised to get rid of diversity, equity and inclusion in government, but they never said anything about their own party.
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Here is Ben Habib, of course, axed in the back, you know, party favourite, but no more, on BBC, talking about how they're going to get rid of it.
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And here is the official reform account with the slop siren and everything, saying that they're going to scrap diversity, equity and inclusion.
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However, the spirit of it lives on, not in, you know, law necessarily, but in Nigel Farage.
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God, why promise us this sort of stuff if you're just going to be like, yeah, okay, but we are actually going to continue it.
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Not necessarily for the government, but they are embodying the principles of it in their own party.
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If anything, they're embodying it more all-encompassingly.
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Filling that gap in the marketplace of parties that don't pander to DEI.
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So, what we essentially have now in British politics is you can pick the colour of which anti-nativist party you can vote for.
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You can either get green, red, yellow, blue and now teal.
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It's just like, you know, if my wife and all this author don't like it, then I'm pretty sure it's a good tie.
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So, they've got to the point of their crusade for DEI within their party itself.
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That the Guardian have actually written a puff piece about them.
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And I wanted to go over this article because it's very amusing to me.
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If you're both there on election night, remember when I was saying how I'm not too sure about reform
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and how I'm already regretting my vote on the night?
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He says, Reform UK candidate Rajmasud Forhad, that's his name, I presume, is a brave individual who stands up for British values and common sense.
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May I remind you that the term British values has increased...
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Beforehand, of course, we knew that you couldn't have British values without being British because we looked at the world and we saw that they weren't British and we saw that as a problem.
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And we tried to colonise them and introduce them into how to be civilised, but alas, they didn't like that.
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British values was the values of the British, not a doctrinal prescription that should be enforced on people everywhere else.
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At the minute, we've sort of got this 1984-esque thing of, no, we've always had British values.
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You know, Britain's always been a nation of values.
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We've always assessed people based on the content of their character because, of course, you know, Britain was founded by Martin Luther King.
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Britain has always been a hive mind collective that has always agreed on everything ever.
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And, you know, the geographical location of the British Isles, Charles I, Cromwell, both agreed on, you know, what British values were.
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Yeah, British values just happen to harmonise with Rawlsian liberalism as well.
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So the worst kind of liberalism, I can't even say it, it's so disgusting.
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They just happen to correspond with the ingredients that lead to our annihilation.
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Reforms minority ethnic candidates seeking local election wins.
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If I ever get a good write-up in The Guardian, a positive glowing write-up in The Guardian,
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So I'm going to skip the byline and just go straight to reading this.
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But until the people come to their senses, I will stand, said Raj Forhad, a UK, Reform UK candidate.
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For some reason, I'm reading this in broken English as well.
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The 43-year-old, who owns a software business, thankfully it's not a call-in centre,
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is part of a growing group in politics, British voters from minority ethnic backgrounds,
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Yeah, but this is the typical, ah, it's the fastest growing thing.
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Yeah, well, if a tumour is the fastest growing thing in my body, it doesn't mean it's good.
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Recent research has found Reform tends to poll best in areas with a large white population.
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Maybe because the white population is disenfranchised by electoral politics.
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And Nigel Farage sold himself as a nativist candidate.
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Polling indicates the party, which is criticised by anti-racism campaigners,
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had a vote share of 3% amongst minority ethnic voters,
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However, the party fielded 17 candidates from ethnic minorities in 2024, in the general election.
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And some insiders regarded the ability to win over voters traditionally loyal to Labour,
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including black and Asian people in big cities, as pivotal to its growth.
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There are enough English people in England to win an election.
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One of the things that the Scots always complained about in the run-up to their independence referendum
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is that, well, because England has more seats in Parliament,
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and they always vote Tory, we always have a Tory government.
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So, within that argumentation is a legitimate point that England can determine the fate of elections,
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And so, we can win an election on an entirely native vote if we wanted to.
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And it's important to remember that in the last election, only 59% of people voted, I think it was.
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So, nearly half the country is just like, well, I'm not going to vote for any of this.
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So, okay, we'll give them something to vote for then.
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People will be amazed at how much a turnout can change
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Yeah, I think that part of the reason that people are so disenfranchised and dispassionate,
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why you get votes between, like, 59% and maybe 68% on a higher,
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But normally, it's about 62%, which is still 38%.
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And when it's the one time every five years that you can actually have a say in how things
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are run, I think that that's a massive failure.
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Also, because of the record voter turnout that, of course, we had during the Brexit referendum,
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the thing that made those people come out and vote during that referendum in the first
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place, all those underlying problems that they thought they were going to be able to
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And so just, if you're campaigning on those issues, you will bring those people back out
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I think people in the Southwest would actually really respond to a kind of pro-Brexit business-y
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talk, because a lot of them are, like, you know, business owners and independent, like,
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not wealthy, but, like, well-to-do middle-class people, who at the moment they're voting Lib Dem
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But it's like, okay, well, go hard tax relief, go hard, you know, incentive for investment
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But anyway, the point being, Brexit was an incredibly nativist phenomenon, and everyone
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And yet, here we are, eight, is it, yeah, no, nine years later, nothing's happened, we
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So it carries on to say, the local elections on the 1st of May represent a milestone for
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reform, which is also eyeing the Runcorn parliamentary by-election and mayoral elections on the same
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Of course, Runcorn being the constituency where that Labour MP connected with one of
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But some party activists are already looking ahead to 2026 when London's local elections
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Notice how they've not said a negative word, by the way.
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I would love this kind of negative, neutral coverage from the press.
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Remember when, you know, Nigel Farage was far right in the worst thing in the sliced bread?
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Well, it just goes to show that all of Nigel's hard work is beginning to pay off for it, isn't
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He's finally getting what he wants, which is positive coverage from the Guardian.
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I hope those dinner parties were worth it, Nigel.
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So it carries on to say, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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We're putting the same effort into bringing over true Labour voters as we did in bringing
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London is the acid test, said Neville Watson, reforms only Black Branch chair.
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But they don't say anything negative beyond a very subtle thing.
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Haino, I'm presuming is how that's pronounced, is an East London ward that will be voting
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on the 1st of May in Redbridge Council by-election, which Forhad, who's the Indian fellow, I presume,
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He stood in last year's general election as the candidate for Ilford South when he said
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he was attacked on the campaign trail for standing for reform, but did not report it
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I don't think it would be the native British people attacking him.
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Honestly, as a side note on the constituency of Ilford, I've no idea to this day how Wes
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Streeting got elected for Ilford, given that he's the only Englishman in Ilford.
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It's undoubtedly that an independent Muslim MP is going to win it next.
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I think they voted Labour purely for the free money.
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I was tagging him on Twitter with this the other day.
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It came out like Stats for Lefties post the poll where he's going to get crushed in a
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ratio of two to one in the next election in Ilford South.
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I ratioed Keir Starmer the other day on Easter.
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The main reason I joined Reform is because of the policies they have, the contract they
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I don't know what contract that is to betray us.
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I've got T-shirts longer than he's been in the country.
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He said, myself as an immigrant, the way illegal migrants are brought in this country, that's
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So this kind of rhetoric reminds me of when Bernie Sanders would go on and on and on.
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And when he became a millionaire, he changed it to billionaires.
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If you're a nativist, it's OK to talk about legal migration.
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But as soon as you're an immigrant, it's only the illegal migration.
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If you talk about legal, that's too far to find it down to something procedural.
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This is one of the things I like about Ben Habib.
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Watson, who chairs Reforms Branch in Enfield, North London, says he firmly supports positive
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immigration that is managed, coordinated, and thoughtfully timed.
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You'll still get half a million in, as long as half a million leave.
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So I'm still going to be replaced, but just at the speed limit.
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The thing is, this sort of rhetoric would have probably been the weathervane of where most
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But now, people have reached such a boiling point of desperation.
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They're looking for something far more radical.
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In the early 2000s, this is exactly the kind of rhetoric you'd expect to see.
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When Nigel Farage was at his prime, you know what I mean?
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So it carries on to say, it's about space, not race, the father of two said when asked
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how he reconciled his identity as the son of a Jamaican-born Windrush generation parent
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And he says, I have the values of my family who put so much in, have always stood for,
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And I appreciate the sort of decent sentiments here.
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Should be hard work, aspiration, blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah, we shouldn't be openly racially discriminating against people for the fun of it, blah, blah,
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But the thing is, things have just gone too far, right?
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And even normies are seeing, like, why are there so many foreigners here?
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So, like, these sort of old, like, classical liberal catechisms of, like, the early 2000s.
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You know, I understand why you want to hold these opinions, but things have just gone
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Well, he goes a little bit off the deep end from classical liberalism here.
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It says, a community activist with a background in social enterprise, youth work and send,
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which is, like, special needs education, things like that.
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Watson personally supports economic reparations for the unimaginable wrong of slavery.
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He said it had driven a deep-rooted and sometimes subconscious racism and left a deep, indelible
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So, it's driven a deep-rooted and subconscious racism on the lives of a people.
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Because he's worried about this because he is ethnically Jamaican and therefore he stands
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It's funny how whenever, you know, the chips are down, people always side on, you know,
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It's almost like it's an intrinsic part of who we are or something.
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So, there's another amazing sleight of hand that goes on here.
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It's like, listen, hello, fellow British people.
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Well, so you need to pay reparations for slavery.
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Suddenly, you're not one of us when you want reparations for slavery.
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You're literally thinking the white people have to do that and the black people be the
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I've also traced my family history and I know there are no slave owners.
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To be fair, as a Devonshire man, yours were probably abducted by Barbary pirates.
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And also, the way economics work, they quite often concede trickle-down economics.
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So, if people in your country are getting disproportionately richer relative to you, your relative purchasing
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power is actually lower than it would have been otherwise.
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On the plus side, I'm looking forward to receiving my reparations.
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So, it carries on to say he was attracted to reform by Brexit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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There's Navtaj Sangha, a former British Army bursar.
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I mean, he served in the military, so I've got a bit more respect for him.
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North London-based, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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But it carries on just saying lots of nice things, filling in some details, talking about
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I think everyone should be able to live together.
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The Guardian is promoting reform at this point.
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But it goes on to basically outline their positions, outline how they're ethnic minorities and how
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it's okay to vote reform now, because they're honestly not racist, everyone.
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Nigel Farage is not a racist, and he is most offended when you call him a racist.
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He's actually, one of the things he's most insistent about in British politics is that
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As to fixing the problems in the country, well, that's secondary.
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Call him a swindler, a scoundrel, a betrayer, and it all washes off his back like a water
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So, I'm not going to read any more of this, because you get the gist.
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They wrote a long puff piece about lots of minorities in reform, and everyone's been
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It's a really fair thing to point out, because as soon as that sort of subject gets injected
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into the discourse, suddenly there is a division saying, look, it's us and them.
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Well, most of politics is just resource extraction.
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Once you realise that, it becomes pretty naked.
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Here's Rupert Lowe as well, not missing out on opportunity to dunk on his own party.
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We all expect Labour, Lib Dem candidates to push this trite, but it was certainly a surprise
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to read a reform chair calling for economic reparations to tackle a deep-rooted and sometimes
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We must offer no grovelling apologies for our past.
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To me, the British people have contributed comfortably more to the free world than anyone else.
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How is Rupert Lowe not in charge of everything?
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This is the way you should be speaking in politics, not generally.
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So, speaking of Nigel Farage, actually, you know how he's very proud of destroying the
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Well, there's one BNP member he didn't actually crush.
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So, this is that Bangladeshi national that we were reading about earlier.
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He joined the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, or the BNP, when he was younger.
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So, I posted about this on Twitter, and a mutual of mine posted that Simpsons monkey paw,
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where, you know, I'd like Nigel to allow the BNP in and the monkey paw curls, and bam,
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So, an actual Bangladeshi nationalist is now standing for UK Parliament.
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But can we go back to Nigel Farage posting the article and being like, this fellow stands
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So, British values harmonized with Bangladeshi nationalist values.
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But in what way are British values Bangladeshi values?
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And if they're the same, then, like, I mean, it suggests that there is no such thing as
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Carl, you haven't understood that acid attacks are a very important way of British people
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communicating their grievances with one another.
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Shall you forfeit any right to call yourself a nationalist as well, if you abandon the
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Well, the problem with Bangladesh now is there's no Bangladeshis there, because they've all moved
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That part of the world, there's no shortage of people, is there?
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There was this clip of loads of people chanting in barely legible English, asking them to vote
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These are probably people who are related to him.
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I'm getting a very strong urge to hang up with this cold call.
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I'm just wondering, how long is it, do you think, off the back of this before Ash Saka
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I also like how it looks like they're outside of a corner shop, so they've just finished
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It's like vote reform for Bangladeshi nationals.
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I think you've got an entire country for yourselves.
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It's also worth mentioning as well, ever so quickly, they put out this video where they,
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I'm going to mute it just for the sake of my insanity.
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And so they go off and list every minority that's in the party and saying,
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We judge people based on the content of their character.
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But eventually they say, basically, diversity is our strength.
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And then there was also the case of these Reform UK supporters,
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I didn't look into the actor claim, but I saw lots of people saying it.
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But they had lots of African drumming circles campaigning for them
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Glastonbury is a horrifically white middle class.
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A few years ago, Jeremy Corbyn gave a speech at Glastonbury,
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And it is funny that the only black people at Glastonbury
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But I think Leo was making a joke that only the people in the dinghy there
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that they were throwing around because refugees.
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you've got to be very white and very middle class
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and willing to part with a lot of money to stand in a dirty field.
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And by God, do they have massive walls to keep you out if you're not.
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They believe in borders when there's a smaller scale version of a society.
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He was like, look, we need to paint on these walls,
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And there are some other examples as well, of course.
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I'm not going to play the audio because it's annoying,
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because they don't necessarily seem like organic,
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They don't really seem to be that interested, do they?
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And then I'd be much remiss not to mention the fact that
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one old British tradition has been brought back.
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because too many incompetent people bought their offices in the army
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and clearly not learning this lesson from 1856.
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which in exchange was no way, you know, a bribe or anything.
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But in exchange, he got the party chair position.
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especially for a political party that's got to spend millions.
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Yeah, just since everything's on the table to be sold.
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But yes, you get the idea by now that reform has no principles.
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It's part of the problem and it needs to go just like the rest.
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I mean, I don't even know what Nigel even wants to do when he becomes prime minister.
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And I, you know, I'm not even necessarily against that,
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but it's like, God, Nigel, wasting everyone's time.
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These reform converts don't hold the ideals of the core reform voters.
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Reform isn't a nativist party, but we need one.
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Any hopes that we had of a faction within reform helping it to foster that right-wing spirit was taken out.
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Even the sort of ghost of Thatcher that they've sort of revived within the party,
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they're not talking about taking an axe to the NHS and calling it a socialist abomination.
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He wants to nationalise the steel now, doesn't he?
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I mean, I'm not against it, but like, that's weird for you, Nigel.
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I'm not even against it, but like, for the wrong reasons, right?
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Like, Nigel wants to do it as a political stunt.
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I'm like, no, I want to do it because I don't want the Chinese owning England.
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I'm visiting England from America with my wife to see her family.
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I'm currently walking the Avebury pilgrimage near Silisbury Hill.
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You have a beautiful country with wonderful people.
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You wouldn't know it from the towns, but literally five minutes out of a town and old England
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I hope the England that I've seen over the last couple of days can be preserved and enjoyed
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The land of my ancestors would be well preserved by the English.
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Carl, fancy making Samson work Easter Monday and leaving at the mercy of our bank holiday
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Like, you know, don't ever let it be said I don't leave from the front.
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Reform have become exactly like the Tories and Labour.
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For some reason, Nigel was like, look, there's a really crowded field over there.
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You're actually right, though, that probably the Labour Party are on, ironically, the most
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They announced they were going to have a league table for the migrant groups who commit
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Like, but this is, again, Nigel Farage would never even get...
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Have a knockout round at the end of each month.
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Eventually, it's just the last demographic left and the wing is still good.
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Believe me, when I'm done, it'll be sub-regional of the natives in the UK.
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But the point being, that's a really right-wing thing to do.
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You would never get that from Farage or the Tories.
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They'd be like, oh, no, I'd be called a racist.
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I'm at the point now where the more I get called racist, the more cool I feel.
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The concern about racism is a purely liberal prejudice.
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Anyway, Fick Tagius says, do you think this infiltration into reform or corrosion from within?
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There's no one actually who's got any strings on Nigel at this point, really.
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This is my huge fan club of 200,000 subscribers.
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In fact, if anything, Elon's pressure on him a few months back over the Tommy Robinson issue
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and the fact that Farage didn't cave on that issue goes to show just how much of an eye
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and grip Nigel has on exactly every minutiae of the party's direction.
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You can weather an attack from the world's richest man.
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Like the fact that Nigel Farage stood his ground is like, no, I'm not bending.
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So, there have recently been a number of whistleblowers from British police forces, local police forces
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around the country, who have come out and said, look, the police were complicit with the grooming
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And in fact, we have police officers who have been arrested over historic involvement
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and themselves actively part of grooming gangs.
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So, the idea that we can just be like, well, the police can police themselves on this and
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well, Jess Phillips is like, okay, we'll just hand it off to the local branch, the local
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It's like, no, they'll be marking their own homework.
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And of course, they will decide that, no, we did very little wrong.
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So, for example, this is from not long ago, actually, April, 2nd of April, where three
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police officers, former police officers now, have been arrested for historic, being part
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What's really weird is they go completely unnamed in all of the coverage of this.
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So, in the BBC or, you know, the Mirror or wherever, like, their names are just, and it's
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weird because they're all in their 50s and 60s.
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So, my best guess at why they wouldn't be naming them is they're worried that they might
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be of a specific background that might reflect poorly on...
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Well, I mean, they're literally being investigated for, quote, historic child exploitation in regards
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I know it does happen with British people, but one would imagine that a British police
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officer that also stands to be held legally liable, there's enough self-interest alone
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in that sort of organisation where it at least strongly disincentivises it, whereas when
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it's another community, I can see it happening.
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So, not even men, just former South Yorkshire police officer from this last one being arrested
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for raping a teenage girl in Rotherham in 2004.
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Anyway, so the thing with these historic charges is that they often don't go anywhere, especially
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A paradigm example of that is Halifax grooming gang, alleged grooming gang member, Amjad
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Ditha, who himself, I don't know if there's a picture of him in there, actually, but there's
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16 men charged of being part of a grooming gang in Halifax.
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He was being prosecuted over sexual abuse between 2006 and 2009.
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And even though that's not exactly ancient history, it was dropped anyway, because for
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some reason they decided, well, quote, there's no realistic prospect of a conviction.
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It went on for five years and the Crown Prosecution Service just dropped it.
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They've decided that there's no realistic prospect of a conviction.
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If you'd have asked me something like two years ago on the back of this sort of stuff,
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it's like, well, I'd say, well, it just all needs, you know, reforming.
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And so the point being is that the local police forces in these areas were definitely complicit.
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I mean, several police officers have been arrested and charged and had their cases dropped because
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I mean, to be fair, there probably is very little evidence they can actually draw on.
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But I'm personally going to decide that I think they're probably guilty.
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Anyway, so it's not surprising then that various reviews are finding, oh, the police were very,
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very, very lax and weren't really interested in actually dealing with this problem.
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There was a review recently that covered from 2004 to 2013 about Greater Manchester Police.
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And as the BBC tells us, it highlights apparent local authority indifference to the plight of hundreds of youngsters
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Yeah, well, I guess that if the police are part of the victimizers, why would we want to investigate?
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Andy Burnham, the Greater Manchester Mayor, who's been the one good Labour mayor on this.
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And he's come out and called for disciplinary action to be taken against police officers and councils
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Because, of course, no one's been punished for this.
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It's crazy how they just end up dropping the charges and it goes no further.
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I imagine that's one of the few things Burnham can actually do as the mayor of Manchester.
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And, like I said, he's been repeatedly raising this as well.
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Again, Labour more right-wing than anyone else.
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Oh, well, we've got to say, you know, it's all good now.
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Just because a bunch of our police officers have been arrested for being part of child rape gangs.
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The review, they say, focused on 111 cases in Rochdale and concluded that there was compelling evidence of widespread organised sexual exploitation of children.
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This should be a massive alarm bell, you'd think.
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But, anyway, I guess if the police are in on it, maybe it's not.
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Statutory agencies failed to respond appropriately.
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And the probability that at least 74 children were being exploited in 48 of those cases, where they were just serious failures to the child.
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And it was just low priority and under-resourced by the police.
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Too busy telling people off for hate crimes on Facebook.
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We've got to tell them off for their dangerous language whilst children are being groomed.
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We're at the point now, aren't we, where basically all of the institutions in Britain are at the point where they would rather defend the worst scum of their people than the best and most virtuous of ours.
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Posey Parker pointed this out on Twitter the other day.
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It's like, look, they're really more worried about being called a racist than they are being themselves a rapist.
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And so, frankly, I just assume guilt in all of these cases.
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I assume the police are part of the grooming gangs now.
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They're not just covering for them for political reasons.
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No, I'm going to assume because of the previous ones, you guys are part of the goddamn grooming gangs.
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And if you don't like that, maybe you should have been against the grooming gangs and punishing them.
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I know that one or two, I think it was in Rochdale or one of the surrounding towns,
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where there were cases in one of the investigations where one or two of the police officers basically said,
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If it helps, we'll get to the cover-up in a minute.
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So, unsurprising, you get articles like this from 2018,
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where the police appear to punish the victims of the Newcastle grooming gangs for review fines.
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And the answer is a combination of political correctness, political corruption.
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And again, I'm just going to assume they were in on it.
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Why else would you be siding with a gang of rapists?
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Blimey, that's like an infographic for the dangers of cousin marriage there, isn't it?
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while perpetrators were not punished or disrupted,
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attempts to persuade victims to change behaviours and not return to the abusers
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led to consideration of deterrent punishments for victims for being drunk or disorderly
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or for making false allegations when accounts were changed.
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The report from the retired barrister, David Spicer,
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to the response by the authorities in Newcastle to child exploitation,
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concluded that the victims received effective protection after January 2014.
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What happened in January 2014 was the Alexis J report in 2014 that came out.
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So I can't remember whether this is before or after the report was actually released.
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But the point is, after the Rotherham report, the highlights of it,
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it's suddenly like, oh, we'd better change the way we're acting
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because otherwise there's going to be scrutiny.
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the forces actions had no impact and lacked consistency.
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So going back to Rotherham for a second, shall we?
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How the grooming gang's inquiry by the Independent Office of Police Conduct
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apparently they were just told, don't investigate the senior officers.
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That's like saying, oh, please don't look under there.
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Yeah, which makes me just naturally assume that the senior officers were part of the rape gangs.
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Like, it's impossible to understand the rationale if it wasn't to protect someone who was a rapist, right?
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Independent investigators who examined police failings in the Rotherham grooming scandal
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barely scratched the surface a whistleblower has claimed.
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and only those in the lower ranks were even investigated for misconduct.
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The Independent Office of Police Conduct carried out Operation Linden,
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which found that police did not make crime records,
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even when rapes and sexual assaults were reported,
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did not question older men found in the presence of drunk girls,
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and viewed vulnerable children as troublesome problems instead of victims.
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Not new information, but I think this bit is the important bit, quote,
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we were actively told not to pursue senior officers, the whistleblower said.
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It was just largely incompetent, or at least it seems incompetent on the surface,
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but I'm sorry, I don't believe incompetence anymore, I believe malice.
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So, it's worth mentioning as well that these sorts of things,
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as in functioning as it's intended, not necessarily functioning as I see it,
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police officers get brought into disciplinaries for things like
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describing their colleague in a jokey way as a bitch, or something like that.
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I've heard about this from first-hand accounts,
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where people are making jokes, and they're sort of bonding stuff,
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and someone overhears it, and then they get called into a disciplinary,
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and they're just saying, oh no, don't investigate them.
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When we know how petty the police are, this has to be a very deliberate...
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we were told to focus on junior officers who handled the complaints from individual victims.
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This was happening across the country, where lower-ranked officers were just ignoring it.
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I'm assuming, because they weren't investigated,
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that the senior officers were just completely complicit.
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There's no presumption of innocence, for me, when we're dealing with this now.
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I just assume, if you're not actively rooting this stuff out from your forces,
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then you're part of it, and you probably need to be investigated.
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So, you would think there would be quite a large task force
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given how perennial they have been in our towns and cities.
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There's something like 25 different towns and cities now
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that have had congenital grooming gang problems
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who are trained by a dedicated task force to dealing with this
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from the whistleblowers and the investigations,
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this is just a really low priority for the police.
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They just don't think preventing children from being raped is important.
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Do with a values realignment to borrow from the parlance of our times.
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Rupert Lowe's like, look, their families can go too
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we're perfectly justified in saying you can't live here.
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Senior police officers fear the government pressure
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to reinvestigate close historic cases of grooming gang
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could make it harder to catch those targeting children today.
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we've only got a thousand officers doing it, I guess.
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It's the perception of the mass rape that matters here.
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it's making it an issue that's only going to get worse
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Yeah, but they want to make this expressly political
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relate to grooming and abuse by male groups or gangs.
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It's like, of course you're going to need more money.
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Former police officers are coming out of the woodwork
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There are only 1,000 police officers in the entire country
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told the BBC that individuals involved in grooming networks
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but not necessarily the ringleaders of the grooming gangs
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are still active and out there raping children.
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Well, there's a massive elephant in the room here
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in that by the government talking about the issue,
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for a while it was the only thing anyone was talking about
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well, there's going to be no consequences for me then
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on an absolute barbarian rampage on this subject,
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called the Stop Child Sexual Abuse Exploitation Foundation
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Sorry, you're going to have to do that privately.