The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1151

00:00:00.040 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1151. I'm your host Harry,

00:00:06.320 joined today by Dan and returning guest Charlie Downs. Thank you for making it to the studio today.

00:00:11.400 Oh, it's great to be here as ever.

00:00:12.500 Is it great to be in Swindon?

00:00:13.880 Well, it's great to be in this particular office, but no, I was saying before we came on that

00:00:17.260 every time I drive through Swindon, it becomes more and more bleak and dystopian, and that makes

00:00:21.120 me really sad, especially when I hear Carl talk about what it used to be like here.

00:00:24.700 I still don't know if I believe him, but then again, the decline hits very fast. If it's gotten

00:00:28.440 even worse since the first time you came in, it wasn't that great to begin with.

00:00:32.620 But today, Dan is going to be showing us pictures of men while we sit uncomfortably in silence.

00:00:38.120 Charlie is going to be asking what Zoomers want, and I'm going to talk about what needs to be

00:00:42.200 done to the judiciary in America. Other than that, we've got the gold Zoom call at three o'clock,

00:00:48.920 so I believe Dan and Stelios will be attending that one, so if you want to come and say hello

00:00:53.300 to them, for whatever reason, ask them any questions, unload your personal troubles to

00:00:58.580 them.

00:00:58.880 We put our A-team on it today.

00:01:00.960 Yeah, yeah, clearly, clearly. I had to sit this one out because, well, thankfully, I'm

00:01:05.040 not good enough. And with that, let's get into it.

00:01:09.100 Right, so what on earth is going on with men? Because I did a daily video on this tweet

00:01:15.380 a couple of days ago. I don't think it's out yet, but it'll come out soon. But I'm still

00:01:19.640 thinking about it. It's still bothering me. And basically, what it is, is this woman here,

00:01:24.800 she was looking for her grandfather's yearbook photo of him in 1955, and then she started

00:01:30.420 flicking through all the other pages. And, I mean, she makes the point there that, you

00:01:34.480 know, she's looking at these chaps, and she's finding about 60% of them attractive, whereas

00:01:38.880 she reckons she finds about 10% of guys attractive today. And at first I thought, oh, well, you

00:01:45.140 know, what do you know, woman? But then I started thinking about it, and I started looking

00:01:48.540 at the sort of, you know, point that she's making. And let's just drill into it. Let's

00:01:53.200 take a look at, here we go, these chaps here. And she goes on to offer, you know, explanations

00:02:00.400 of them being clean-shaven and well-groomed and all that kind of stuff. But that seems a

00:02:07.280 little bit unsatisfying to me.

00:02:09.480 It's definitely part of it.

00:02:10.480 I mean, yes, it's a part of it, but I don't know if the facial physiognomy has changed

00:02:16.440 that much, to be honest.

00:02:17.780 Well, I mean, this guy here, he's a bit... I could see him today. I could see him today.

00:02:25.220 I could see him today.

00:02:26.820 Yes.

00:02:27.140 I could see all of these people today. It's just in the differing how much you see of each

00:02:31.580 of them.

00:02:31.980 I mean, there is definitely something in dress and grooming. I get that. And actually, since

00:02:37.520 I started really noticing this, it's bothered me because I've been looking at, you know,

00:02:40.980 men on the high street, young men, and frankly, they dress like babies, that they wear these

00:02:45.700 soft, baggy clothes.

00:02:47.960 Yes. I was having this conversation with someone recently about the fact that all of the kind

00:02:52.400 of high fashion brands now, the look that they peddle is basically to dress like a three-year-old.

00:02:57.580 It's to dress in oversized t-shirt, shorts and trainers.

00:03:00.580 It's almost hobo chic.

00:03:03.020 Yeah.

00:03:03.620 In a lot of the way. It's like when that man who's always in the news,

00:03:07.520 for uncontroversial reasons, Kanye West, when he released a t-shirt for, what, $400,

00:03:13.040 something ridiculous price-wise, and it was a shirt that had been purposefully cut up

00:03:17.940 and made to look torn.

00:03:18.940 Yeah.

00:03:19.500 Like, a lot of fashion brands, the high end of them, look terrible.

00:03:24.360 Well, it's just an expression of that culture-wide phenomenon of the inversion of standards,

00:03:29.320 isn't it? It's the championing of the low and the low quality. And it's also, at the

00:03:34.260 same time, part of that weird, kind of ironic, like, meta thing that goes on.

00:03:37.940 It seems like a scam to me.

00:03:40.380 Yeah.

00:03:40.820 Charging $400 for comfort.

00:03:43.180 That too.

00:03:44.520 Baggy, brightly coloured cotton clothing. And there was one guy in particular I saw this

00:03:49.260 morning, I kind of wanted to shout at him, you're dressed like a baby, because he was.

00:03:53.080 Well, there's nothing wrong with wearing comfortable cotton clothing, it's just that if you're

00:03:58.080 wearing...

00:03:58.480 Outside?

00:03:59.240 Yes. If you're wearing a comfortable, say, white cotton shirt, for instance, you can look

00:04:04.120 classy in something like that.

00:04:06.420 No, no, these men were not wearing shirts.

00:04:07.580 You're talking about people wearing children's clothing.

00:04:11.340 Yes, yes, essentially. So, I mean, it could be that, but again, I don't think it's just

00:04:17.020 that. The other thing I started thinking about when I looked at this is these men, they are

00:04:22.460 radiating a certain sense of confidence.

00:04:27.060 Yeah. I'm interested, actually, reading those interests that are listed there. Classical

00:04:31.540 music, autos, card playing, writing, jazz, religion, political organisations.

00:04:36.420 Doing things off and outside.

00:04:38.380 Yeah. Yeah.

00:04:39.220 It's very interesting, that. I mean, I was looking, I was just looking at these faces,

00:04:42.420 and I don't know if I'm reading into it too much, but there's a look behind the eyes that

00:04:45.860 you don't really tend to get anymore. There is a confidence.

00:04:48.180 And there's also probably dietary considerations. If we go with raw egg nationalists, they're

00:04:52.940 probably eating a balanced diet that doesn't leave them with any nutrient deficiencies as

00:04:57.780 well.

00:04:57.960 Well, yes. I mean, picking up those points in turn, I mean, the first one, I mean, consider

00:05:03.260 who these men are surrounded by. So, for a start, these are young men in 1955, so their

00:05:09.040 teachers have basically all just been through the war.

00:05:11.140 Now, obviously, that was a bad thing, but nevertheless, it does produce manly men.

00:05:16.620 You know, if your geography teacher basically parachuted into Normandy, hiked for a couple

00:05:21.360 of hundred miles, and then threw a grenade into a tank, you know, that's a different type

00:05:25.780 of geography teacher to the soy millennial that you're going to get teaching Zoomers today.

00:05:30.960 Yeah.

00:05:31.180 So, the men that these young men are surrounded by are actually men, and they probably had

00:05:37.480 male teachers as well. They had male role models. They probably had fathers in the

00:05:41.020 household. You can tell from the sort of look of these guys, this does not look like

00:05:46.200 a modern classroom today.

00:05:48.960 I don't know what you mean there, Dan.

00:05:50.440 Yes. So, there's that. But also, the life expectations of these, because these young

00:05:56.880 men, right, they're looking at exiting education, and what have they got in front of them? Well,

00:06:03.200 they're probably going to go and get a job that's going to pay them something like two,

00:06:07.540 two and a half grand a year, and they're going to go and buy a house that costs about

00:06:10.880 four grand. So, they know that they know within a couple of years of this being taken,

00:06:16.060 if not almost immediately, they're going to be in their own family home. And then they're

00:06:20.940 going to get a wife who, and believe this or not, in those days, women actually respected

00:06:26.300 men. They actually liked them.

00:06:27.360 So, they're going to get a wife who's probably going to stay at home and raise their children

00:06:32.540 in a house that they own, probably outright within a few years. They're going to be a

00:06:38.600 provider. They're walking into a society that respects and values men and appreciates them

00:06:44.020 for what they are, and they know it. Whereas, if you've got a young man taking his yearbook

00:06:49.080 photo just leaving school, he's probably just had to sit there and been forced to watch

00:06:53.440 adolescence. Indeed. His female teachers hate him, or at least consider him to be a defective

00:06:59.660 girl. So, the whole outlook in life that these men have is completely different to modern men.

00:07:07.960 Thoughts?

00:07:09.460 I mean...

00:07:09.900 It's pretty reasonable so far from what you're describing.

00:07:13.160 Yeah. I mean, it's a tricky one because I think it's easy to read too far into these things,

00:07:19.100 but it can't be denied that, I mean, when I was at school... In fact, when I was at university,

00:07:22.200 Dan, what you were just saying about the way that young men dress now, it blew my mind the

00:07:26.480 number of young guys who'd come into lectures and seminars and that kind of thing, literally

00:07:30.600 having just rolled out of bed in, you know, trackies and a t-shirt and, like, flip-flops.

00:07:34.960 And that's... It speaks to...

00:07:36.520 Oh, those were the days.

00:07:37.620 Well, indeed. But it speaks to an attitude, not just towards themselves, but towards the

00:07:42.940 institution that they're in and towards their peers, that, you know, that what I'm doing

00:07:47.560 here doesn't really matter. It's not worth the effort.

00:07:49.640 There was a complaint when I was going to university that people were only going to

00:07:53.900 university because they were being told by their parents and their friends and the older

00:07:58.300 generations that that's what you do to get a job, where the circumstances had changed

00:08:02.940 to the point where they actually go to university, the degree that they're taking is not guaranteed

00:08:07.040 to get them a career in the field that they want to get into, and they're going to be

00:08:10.960 left saddled with tens of thousands of pounds of debt that they're never going to be able

00:08:15.020 to afford to pay back as well. So with that kind of knowledge, you are going to become

00:08:21.340 quite apathetic when you go into your lectures, and you are being lectured, as has been pointed

00:08:25.640 out, by people who hate you, who want to see you fail.

00:08:29.100 But you contrast that with these chaps here, and perhaps it was the case that there was

00:08:32.620 a dress code that was enforced by the authorities at the school. But you see what they're wearing

00:08:36.780 and the way that they're presenting themselves? They're suggesting in that that the place they

00:08:40.540 are matters to them, that the people around them matter to them, and the enterprise that

00:08:45.780 they're pursuing, whether that's their education or whatever else, matters to them. It matters

00:08:49.000 to them enough that they're going to take care of how they look and present themselves that way.

00:08:51.360 Well, it's not just that. It's that they know that they matter to society.

00:08:55.060 Yes.

00:08:55.500 They know that they've got a place to go into. And you see modern men, and they're just

00:09:00.300 sort of hunched and cowed and sort of drawn in.

00:09:04.380 There is also the general problem of dysgenics, which is that these gentlemen would not have

00:09:11.260 been baby boomers if they were graduating Harvard in 55.

00:09:14.600 Yeah, they were silent generation. So it's after these people's teachers have got back

00:09:20.480 from the war, you get the population explosion. And with a larger population, you're going

00:09:25.100 to get more dysgenics emerging from it, just as a result of there being more people. So the

00:09:31.140 selection pressures since then, as we've mentioned, the fact that they would have been going outside

00:09:35.100 a lot more, getting a lot more physical activity, being a lot more physical in everything they

00:09:39.480 do, the jobs that they would be going to, and the diet as well. So there are a lot of

00:09:43.920 positive selection pressures on these men that future generations didn't have because all

00:09:48.840 of a sudden life became abundant and easier.

00:09:50.880 Yeah, and if I could just add one thing as well, just again, looking at this picture, I've

00:09:54.200 been thinking recently about what it actually means to be right-wing in 2025, and, you know,

00:09:59.080 building an actual sort of positive vision for right-wing politics that's not just reactionary.

00:10:03.240 And I think that actually there's something to the idea that if the left's mantra is diversity,

00:10:08.100 equality, and inclusion, well, perhaps the right's mantra should be uniformity, hierarchy,

00:10:12.160 and exclusivity. And if you look at these men here, the one word that comes to mind to me is

00:10:16.260 uniformity, not just in the way they're dressed, but even in their position in the camera.

00:10:21.540 And there's a beauty in that uniformity, because you can tell that this is a cohesive society

00:10:25.940 that these men are a part of. Because if you look at yearbooks today, even yearbooks when I was going

00:10:29.500 through school, there was not that same level of uniformity, because diversity and difference

00:10:33.800 were so championed. It just looked more chaotic. And to a certain eye, there is a kind of beauty

00:10:39.380 to that, but it's very superficial, and I think it speaks to, actually, a more disordered society.

00:10:44.040 So on your last point of exclusivity, I might actually go for belonging, because that kind of

00:10:47.960 covers both camps there. I mean, you can belong to something, but you have to belong to it.

00:10:52.500 So therefore, it is naturally exclusive of something which, well, if you don't belong.

00:10:56.640 Also, somebody in the chat is saying, well, look, you appreciate these guys are dressed

00:11:00.680 up for their yearbook photo. Yes, but people who dress up for their yearbook photo today

00:11:05.420 don't dress up. They just rock up in whatever they're in. So, I mean, even if that is the

00:11:11.300 case, even if they made a bit of a special effort for that day, they've still decided to

00:11:15.500 take the effort, because they recognize the value in it. I'll give you another example.

00:11:19.960 I mean, this one is a more... Oh, yes. I should have... I fluffed that. I fluffed that.

00:11:25.920 Right. If you are going to dress like a baby, at least dress well, in a Lotus Eaters t-shirt.

00:11:32.800 So there we go. Nice. You can get yourself a nice big baggy t-shirt, but at least you'll

00:11:36.720 be giving us money in the process, so do that. Right.

00:11:39.700 Expertly done.

00:11:40.480 Yeah. It would have been, wouldn't it?

00:11:41.820 That's an even worse sales pitch than I normally give.

00:11:44.960 Yes, you're not actually very good at that, are you?

00:11:46.500 I'm excellent at shaming them. If I remembered that I put that in there at the last minute,

00:11:50.140 that would have been smooth. I have conviction when I shame them. I let them know that they're

00:11:53.760 poor and worthless, and this is the only thing that's going to make them feel better. You

00:11:57.540 just, you gave them no hope.

00:11:59.820 It's a great sales strategy, though.

00:12:01.000 Yeah, it works, honestly. It does. So buy a t-shirt. Anyway, right. So this is a more sort

00:12:06.500 of a direct comparison. Two photos, 85 years apart, a grandfather and grandson at the same

00:12:15.160 age. And you can see the difference, can't you? I mean, one, he just feels a bit downtrodden.

00:12:22.360 You know, not dressed sharp. The other one is, he's looking at you with a clear sense of

00:12:26.980 purpose.

00:12:27.940 With this again, though, I can see there's family resemblances striking.

00:12:31.420 Clearly, they look almost the same as one another. And I think one of the things that's

00:12:36.880 making it so the younger chap on the left looks so different to his grandfather is probably

00:12:41.900 due to the factors that we've discussed, like diet, exercise, exposure to the sun. There

00:12:47.240 are ways that him on the left could look more like his grandfather, which is just being more

00:12:52.320 physically active, because his grandfather is clearly, what, in the Navy there?

00:12:55.680 Yes. Yes. Well, I mean, but also the grandfather, yeah. I mean, just the way he looks at you.

00:13:01.040 I mean, he has a steely-eyed sense of purpose.

00:13:03.680 Yeah. He's got predator eyes, whereas his grandson has prey eyes.

00:13:07.300 Yes.

00:13:08.140 You know what I mean?

00:13:08.760 I don't actually... His grandson also, for his age, has what looks to be crow's feet,

00:13:13.440 almost.

00:13:14.160 Yeah.

00:13:14.640 Which, I mean, just goes to show the stress. Probably bad sleep, because he spends all his

00:13:18.780 time on a screen and doesn't get enough sleep. But I don't know how to define that difference

00:13:22.940 between prey eyes and predator eyes. But now you say it, I see it.

00:13:25.940 That's what I'm talking about, yeah.

00:13:26.720 I can't explain why it is, but I see it when you say it.

00:13:31.940 It's a very common thing. If you actually, if you think about that kind of distinction

00:13:34.880 in your day-to-day life and look at people, you'll see it everywhere.

00:13:37.240 Yeah.

00:13:37.360 Very interesting.

00:13:38.540 I'm going to start looking for that now.

00:13:39.980 Him on the left as well also seems to have somewhat of a narrower jaw than his grandfather did.

00:13:45.060 Yep.

00:13:45.560 Well, so that makes him look a bit more round-faced and childish.

00:13:48.540 So his grandfather has spent his whole life basically chewing food. Bits of steak, bits

00:13:53.660 of vegetable, stuff that you actually need. So he's actually worked his jaw, whereas this

00:13:57.940 guy's probably been, you know, basically swallowing soft burgers.

00:14:01.960 In the mall that he's in, in that photo.

00:14:04.960 Yes. So I mean, it's a fascinating example. Let's go for a more extreme example, shall we?

00:14:10.280 Okay. Um, my great-grandfather, 16 versus me. And okay, the one on the left, the grandfather,

00:14:18.960 that's a man, even if he is 16. And the one on the right is a baby.

00:14:23.840 I think there's also something to do with this outside of pure testosterone, but I won't say.

00:14:29.580 Is there any other distinctive differences that you can notice, but possibly, possibly they

00:14:36.360 could, they could just be dark Italians. You can't really see in that first photo. I don't,

00:14:39.800 I don't really know. But, um, somebody has made the, the comment there. Testosterone has left

00:14:44.940 the chat. I think, I think there's something in that. Um, I want to drill down into this

00:14:48.940 testosterone level bit, because what if it, what if it isn't just the men and the male role models

00:14:55.320 they're surrounded by and the sense of purpose in life? What if it is actually something a lot

00:15:00.000 more innate than that? Can we hear what, what RFK says, Samson?

00:15:03.800 We have the highest chronic disease burden of any country in the world. When my uncle was president,

00:15:11.800 3% of Americans had chronic disease. Today, it's 60%. 74% of our kids cannot qualify for military

00:15:19.440 service. I'm just going to pause that. 74% of men cannot qualify for military service.

00:15:25.100 That's a lot. I will say, I mean, obviously this is in the US context, but there are another

00:15:30.500 variable in that. I know certainly in the UK context, speaking from experience is the red

00:15:34.260 tape that's in place now to join the military is insane. And it's, and it's, and it's ridiculous.

00:15:38.700 I was denied entry despite being a physically fit young man. Um, I was denied entry because I very

00:15:44.180 occasionally get migraines, which are very mild, but that, you know, tick the box, tick the box.

00:15:48.460 And it's, uh, you know, you're not allowed in. And that's, and I've heard that story,

00:15:51.400 anecdotes like that's from many, many people.

00:15:53.020 Actually, I mean, that happened to me. I got excluded because I had a perforated

00:15:56.100 eardrum from a, from a martial arts accident. And so that was, that was enough just to say

00:16:00.260 no. Yeah. So never went, never went into that career.

00:16:02.700 I'm going to have to suggest what I, of course I'm going to suggest as well, which is that

00:16:06.140 since RFK was a young man, the demographics of America have shifted wildly. Yes.

00:16:11.660 And the introduction of populations who are typically, shall we say, genetically predisposed

00:16:16.360 to diseases and less genetically healthy might have.

00:16:19.140 You're right to bring this back to demographics for the 13th time, this, this segment.

00:16:22.560 I always do. You're, you're, you're right to do so.

00:16:24.820 I, I most pressing. Yes. Yes. I include it. Anyway, let's, let's listen all.

00:16:28.580 We have fertility rates, a, that are, are just spiraling. A, a teenager today, an American

00:16:35.800 teenager has less testosterone than a 68 year old man. Firm counts are down 50%.

00:16:41.560 Wait, an American teenager has less testosterone than a 60 year old man.

00:16:49.180 That's right. Cause the testosterone levels have dropped 50% from historic levels. And you

00:16:56.000 know, and that is a problem and it's an existential problem, but it's only, that is only when we

00:17:01.820 have obesity, that is off the charts.

00:17:06.160 Yeah. I mean, I mean, that's pretty powerful. Obesity definitely has a lot to do with that.

00:17:11.800 It produces estrogen, more body fat you have. Yeah. I mean, that, I mean, that is genuinely

00:17:15.940 quite worrying. Um, here's a little chart that sort of, you know, gives examples of this is,

00:17:20.660 is tracking testosterone levels. So testosterone levels in the 1960s, um, well, as you can see,

00:17:27.100 it's, it's, it's fallen markedly. Um, it's, it's off well over a third. I mean, I think he said 50%

00:17:33.160 in that bit. So I don't know. It's dropped by over 200 nanogram per deciliter. Yes. And there's

00:17:38.360 only 400 left. And actually, um, if I've seen some anecdote examples of whenever they've tested

00:17:43.600 leftists, leftists are below 200. Oh, that makes sense. You notice that you notice the peak around

00:17:49.380 the September 11th attacks. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Well, it doesn't make through that. Yeah.

00:17:54.040 That's interesting. All of a sudden Americans became patriotic again for a few months and

00:17:58.300 perhaps that's what it is. Perhaps, perhaps the presence of an external threat is a, is

00:18:02.260 a driver of testosterone. I mean, that seems, or maybe they, they turned off whatever they

00:18:05.660 were putting in the food a couple of months. You are right. Because it's a, it seems to

00:18:09.280 maintain somewhat similar levels throughout the cold war. Yes. And then, you know, through

00:18:15.020 the mid eighties, when all of a sudden the threat is diminishing. And then when you get

00:18:18.980 to the 1990s is when you hit that first, uh, that, that first valley. Yeah. Think about

00:18:24.520 America in the mid nineties, you know, it was, it was like, it was, it's what most people

00:18:28.180 don't want to go back to. It's viewed as utopian. No wonder James Lindsay is so eager to get

00:18:32.400 back there. He'll finally fit in again. But look at sperm count. 1970s, 340 million. Today,

00:18:38.280 140 million. I mean, that is just crashing. Global fertility has dropped from five to 2.4.

00:18:44.820 And that's global fertility. It's got to be, it's got to be, it was worse in the West.

00:18:49.520 Well, it does seem this is something that's been remarked on by say Imperium Press and some

00:18:53.680 of the Substack articles that they've written, that it seems that the more liberalized your

00:18:58.240 economy get, uh, your economy gets, the lower the fertility rate seems to drop. Yes. Access

00:19:03.820 to easy abundance seems to make people have less children in general. Again, with this as

00:19:09.400 well, I think the, the diet and the fatness, your general fatness in America and other

00:19:15.400 countries has a lot to do with this as well. Cause you go back to the 1960s and look at

00:19:19.040 pictures of people, how many morbidly obese people are you going to see in videos and pictures?

00:19:23.680 Oh yeah. Do, do, do a video of people at the beach in the seventies?

00:19:26.480 Yeah. Not thin. Not many. Nowadays, like I think with men, best testosterone production is

00:19:33.720 going to be between what, 10 and 15% body fat. I wouldn't be shocked if the majority of American

00:19:38.980 men are at least 25 to 30%. Well, I'll tell you something else as well. A friend of mine

00:19:43.240 is traveling Asia at the moment. He's been out there since November. And, uh, he, one of the

00:19:46.860 things he said is there's no fat people out here, no obese people. Very interesting.

00:19:51.540 Let's pull on that thread of the, um, of the sperm count. So on apparently on current projections,

00:19:57.900 sperm count hits zero by 2045. That's slightly concerning. Which would mean that,

00:20:03.540 um, half of men would be a zoo spermic apparently, which is, which is having no sperm. Um, which

00:20:12.020 is also bad. Yeah. Um, which brings me to this, the Tony little Dutton that I have in my brain

00:20:19.320 is, is telling me that's not entirely a bad thing. Right. So it brings, it brings me to this,

00:20:25.460 right? So, um, we've all seen this chart of how women rate men and women rate, um, 80% of

00:20:32.940 men as being below average. Now, you know, obviously our first reaction is to think silly

00:20:37.980 woman, but, but I've got a heretical idea for you and try not to laugh. What if women

00:20:44.360 are right? Well, you, you laughed, you laughed, you, you failed, but the question of course

00:20:49.840 is compared to what? Because if it is compared to their imagined ideal of a man, which is

00:20:53.800 probably something like those initial pictures from the yearbook that you were showing us.

00:20:56.520 Or Prince Charming from their, from their fantasy romance novel.

00:20:59.540 Well, no, no, not even necessarily fantasy. What if women are actually right? Because when

00:21:03.580 they consider men, they're not just considering the men that immediately surround them. They're

00:21:08.280 surrounding, they're considering the corpus of men in media, which, which we've got a good

00:21:12.600 stock of media going back 30 years. So they're including in their head, 80s movies and 90s

00:21:18.020 movies and, and, um, you know, 90s TV series and stuff. So they've got a, they've got a

00:21:22.940 corpus of men, men that they remember from when they were children and stuff like that.

00:21:26.940 And they're taking it all into account. And what if it actually, what if women are actually

00:21:31.160 right?

00:21:32.660 Yeah. I mean, I, I can totally see that. I don't think, I don't think that's an unreasonable

00:21:36.680 kind of, uh, assessment by, by, by women. Cause like, you know, being real, the prospects

00:21:42.200 are not great.

00:21:42.600 I've never looked at this before and considered the possibility that they could be right, but

00:21:46.920 I'm now starting to consider the possibility that maybe they actually are right.

00:21:50.460 You're just stunned by that proposition, Harry. I don't really care all that much.

00:21:58.540 I've got kids. So, you know, yes, yes. Um, I'm all right. Yeah. Yeah. You've made it

00:22:04.400 and made it through. I've never, I've never had to worry all that much about how women

00:22:08.260 rate me if I'm honest. Well, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is probably the correct

00:22:11.880 response. Um, what, what does, what does high T do? Well, um, it is a study. Testosterone

00:22:18.980 eliminates, um, strategic pro-social behavior through impacting choice consistency in healthy

00:22:24.040 males. So basically it's saying that high T men don't pretend to go along with bullshit.

00:22:28.760 Hmm. You know, they're just like, no, that isn't right. Which at the moment is very much

00:22:34.780 a right wing high T thing. Only right wing high T men do that. Men is, men in general do not

00:22:42.320 do this at all these days. Yeah. I think conformity is, uh, is, uh, is so widespread now,

00:22:48.540 um, that you are viewed as some kind of, it's not just like you have a difference of opinion

00:22:53.200 with somebody. Certainly. I mean, obviously in my segment, I'm going to talk about zoomers,

00:22:56.080 but among zoomers, you're not viewed as a, you know, just somebody with a difference of opinion,

00:22:59.380 but in a lot of cases you're viewed as like an alien. Well, I mean, it is a second one. Um,

00:23:05.720 if you have high testosterone, you're more receptive to minority opinions. If you're low T,

00:23:10.320 you basically just go along with the consensus. So it's similar to the last paper.

00:23:13.620 Well, what I was going to say is that men these days will try to performatively disagree to,

00:23:19.860 to virtue signal as long as the person they're disagreeing with has the minority position.

00:23:24.820 So they're willing to say no, as long as they know the consensus is already backing them up.

00:23:29.640 Yes. Yes. Um, so you can absolutely see why Western governments would be very much okay

00:23:35.460 with the idea of testosterone dropping. Oh, absolutely.

00:23:38.720 The question I suppose then becomes, are they actually doing anything to facilitate it?

00:23:42.740 Or is it something that they've noticed along with the rest of us? And it's like, oh, well,

00:23:47.400 that's fine. I don't know. I don't know. Um, this is also interesting countries where testosterone

00:23:54.300 is, is high. Now I'm looking at this and thinking, what surely white countries should be at the top

00:24:03.220 of this list. I mean, I've had a look at history. I don't know. I mean, if you, if you, you know,

00:24:08.660 these like Ethiopia, for example, that's a, that's a, well, it's not somewhere I'd like to live.

00:24:13.400 Let's just put it that way. It's, it's not a particularly stable country. And I think that

00:24:17.140 adds to my thesis from earlier on that the presence of threat. Yeah. The presence of threat

00:24:22.340 drives up testosterone levels. I mean, those countries, a lot of them is where you will

00:24:27.260 spend a lot of, especially at the top of the list, they're countries where you spend a lot of time

00:24:30.320 outside rather than inside. Russia, I thought was interesting going back to Harry's point about

00:24:35.880 the stuff that they're putting in the food. Well, maybe the best thing that ever happened to Russia

00:24:40.140 was when the EU and the rest of the collective West said, ah, we're going to put sanctions on you and

00:24:45.080 we're no longer going to get our pre-packaged goyslop, which might actually be the best thing

00:24:49.880 that ever happened to Russia. Also, Russia's huge. And if you include the regions of Siberia and such,

00:24:55.260 they have some still quite nomadic populations within them because a lot of it's a wasteland.

00:25:00.780 I wonder how much of it too is also, um, almost like a historical carryover because the Russian

00:25:05.600 people have been through some pretty tough periods. I mean, the entirety of the 20th century,

00:25:10.240 for example. And I wonder how much of it, how much of that before that really. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean,

00:25:14.120 I don't know when these figures are from, but I wonder whether there's any sort of, uh, you know,

00:25:17.420 historical layover. And I also wonder if, if, because a lot of these countries... Poland's quite

00:25:22.040 an outlier there as well. That's quite impressive. But perhaps the same goes for Poland. I mean,

00:25:26.120 in terms of their, their very difficult 20th century. True, true. A lot of these countries

00:25:30.680 overlap with the countries where we're expected to take mass amounts of immigration from.

00:25:35.080 And I wonder if that's the feminist mind going, trying to correct... Revealed preference. Yeah.

00:25:39.340 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It could be that. I'm, I don't know. I still think it's suicidal

00:25:43.180 empathy. I think Northern European countries looking at history should be at the top of

00:25:47.700 this list, but maybe they're being suppressed. Maybe it is, as you say, you know, stuff being

00:25:51.380 put in the food and, and the environmental factors and all the rest of it, which is dragging

00:25:55.720 men now. And of course there are still, you know, manly men in the West, you know, chaps

00:25:59.560 like myself and Charlie here. And well, I mean, there are still manly men in the West. So...

00:26:05.340 I was waiting for that, Dan. So, um, anyway, moving swiftly on.

00:26:08.940 What's your diet like at the moment, Dan? Tip top, tip top. Oh yeah. I just bought a huge

00:26:12.980 bag of steaks from in town. So yes. Yeah. That's my go-to. Um, what's this one? Testosterone

00:26:18.820 administration enhances the expectation of perceived and painful, non-painful stimulus story, um,

00:26:25.300 stimuli or whatever. Um, basically, um, if you've got high tea, you, you, you actually understand

00:26:30.620 what a threat is. So you're less likely to go along with importing men from high tea

00:26:36.440 countries where they haven't, where they, you know, are more violent out of them yet.

00:26:40.680 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Right. And what it sort of all brings me to, I mean, it's, you

00:26:45.880 know, the whole classic, um, weak men makes hard times, hard times make strong men, strong

00:26:50.320 men make good times and good times make weak men cycle repeats.

00:26:53.980 It's amazing how much actually does just come back to this, you know, in general. I mean,

00:26:57.860 this is the thing, right. On this, on this topics like this, because these, these, uh,

00:27:01.740 these, these chemicals like testosterone and indeed dopamine and serotonin that people

00:27:06.020 always talk about in modern culture, you know, people talk about sort of depression, anxiety

00:27:10.140 among young people and how it's a, you know, serotonin deficiency or a dopamine deficiency

00:27:13.940 and all the rest of it. I tend to think that that's, it's very, it's a very reductionist

00:27:17.020 attitude to, uh, human experience. Um, and I tend to think that whilst the, it's more

00:27:23.180 like testosterone, you know, the decrease in testosterone is a symptom rather than a

00:27:27.780 cause of these problems. Because I think that the actual root of the problem is basically

00:27:31.780 spiritual in nature. Because if you are a society that does not have anything, well,

00:27:36.640 if there's no, um, threat ultimately to your way of life, there's no need to defend it.

00:27:42.200 And if there's no need to defend it, then there's no, you know,

00:27:44.000 Well, that was going to be my next point. I love this particular meme that does the rounds

00:27:47.920 episode. And it's, it's, you know, your daily reminder that a hundred billion people

00:27:50.920 have lived and died before you. And 99.99% of them were right-wing extremists by today's

00:27:56.480 standards. If they were alive today, they'd be more pissed off than you are, and they

00:27:59.580 would be unbelievably violent. Um, yes, governments in the West could not get away what they're

00:28:06.240 doing if they had a cohort of historic men to deal with. So you could absolutely see why,

00:28:13.140 why they're, you know, why they're like this. And, you know, this is common thought that

00:28:17.320 the way that men are the, are the way they are today is because they've given up on life

00:28:22.140 because life's too hard. But if you've got a lack of testosterone, when you're faced with

00:28:28.220 hardship, you give up rather than fight back. Men with high T would fight back. And I don't

00:28:34.260 know, I, I, I'm not sure I can pin it down on a reason. I think there's a multitude of

00:28:39.100 reasons. So, I mean, there's a dizzying number of poisons in our food, in our water, in our

00:28:44.140 medications, in our soaps, um, in the, you know, the things that go in your arm and we're

00:28:49.080 allowed to talk about on YouTube and microplastics, microplastics in your balls, microplastics in

00:28:54.820 your balls. Yes. All of the, all of that. But again, to just very quickly to take a level higher

00:28:58.780 than that, I think there is also, and I'm going to get into this in my segment, so stick around

00:29:02.400 folks. Um, but I think there is a, just the prevalence of relativism among certainly young

00:29:07.180 men where life is treated as, you know, it's just something that you make yourself. The meaning

00:29:11.800 of life is to be found, you know, in things like the pursuits of individual self-expression

00:29:16.560 and, and a career and that sort of thing and material possessions and things like morality

00:29:21.420 and beauty and truth are regarded as kind of a bit wishy-washy. They don't really exist

00:29:26.840 in reality. There's not, there's not an objective quality to them. It could be a perfect storm

00:29:30.320 of a multitude of factors that come together to cause an absolute testosterone, sperm count

00:29:35.800 and fertility crisis. Yes. Yeah. Seems that way. There are many potential causes. Um, let's

00:29:42.580 just play this one. It's a short video. Let's play this first, Simpson. No, I'm cooking

00:29:49.020 this one. This is artichoke noodles. It doesn't have any wheat in it and I don't eat any wheat

00:29:52.560 products right now before a show because wheat has, uh, it's called gluten and a lot of times

00:29:58.340 gluten can make you, uh, hold the estrogen and that can make you retain water. What is

00:30:02.580 estrogen? Estrogen is a female hormone. I don't want any of that in my body right now.

00:30:07.960 So look, I, I, I've seen arguments for, for this testosterone droppers, the, you know, points

00:30:13.620 you just made, um, arguments for the amount of light microplastics, lack of sleep, medication,

00:30:19.320 you know, it's in the food. Maybe it's all of these, maybe it's a whole combination of

00:30:23.340 other factors. The only thing I can say is that whatever is happening to men obviously

00:30:28.380 suits governments. So nobody is coming to help you. It's up to men to fix this themselves.

00:30:34.280 I don't know what the solution necessarily is, but men, we need to fix this and we need

00:30:39.000 to sort it out ourselves.

00:30:40.520 I will say just in regards to that video, I doubt that the testosterone in that particular

00:30:45.680 man's body was entirely naturally produced by him.

00:30:49.960 There might've been a little bit of ball testosterone injected into the buttocks on that one.

00:30:53.640 Yeah, just a little bit.

00:30:55.000 Yep.

00:30:55.860 All right. We've got some rumble rants here and, uh, then we can move on to the next

00:31:00.560 segment. Would you like to read them, Dan, or shall I?

00:31:02.520 Okay. I would like you to.

00:31:04.400 All right then. J.M. Denton. So civil war would help the testosterone. What's the holdup?

00:31:10.740 Yes, good point. We get right on that.

00:31:12.220 All right. Yeah. Dan's going to start working towards civil war as we speak. That's a joke.

00:31:16.620 Uh, GCHQ. Scanline says petition for Big Mike, Big Mike question mark, to produce raw milk

00:31:24.560 to all men and boost our testosterone levels. That would be good. I've not been buying raw milk

00:31:29.580 for a little while from my local market. I should go back to buying it. Yeah, my local

00:31:32.520 one's closed, which is very upsetting. Very, very nice. It's very, very good stuff. It also

00:31:36.360 tastes better than normal milk. That's a random name. Just ask Grok how a high tea man behaves.

00:31:42.140 Can we all stop asking Grok for things? You can, like, just Google it, look in an encyclopedia.

00:31:47.780 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Don't, don't go with, let's not Grok, Google instead,

00:31:53.200 because that is just, that is the same thing. Or look at an encyclopedia or any sort of other

00:31:58.100 definition. I'm just annoyed. You think I've got the attention span

00:32:00.060 to look at an encyclopedia? Yeah, yeah, I'm annoyed that everybody just keeps going to Grok.

00:32:04.180 Higher confidence, assertiveness, energy and drive, elevated libido, aggressiveness,

00:32:07.760 competitiveness, more muscles and less fat. LOL. Yeah, I mean, that's true. Don't need the LOL.

00:32:13.620 That's all true. Indeed. Right, well, I wanted to talk today about the Zoomers. And I'm a Zoomer

00:32:20.620 myself. I'm a child of the early 2000s. I didn't know, you've never mentioned it before.

00:32:24.700 No, I know, right? Yeah. A child of the Blairite and then Cameronite education system and the

00:32:30.700 culture that emerged around that kind of political order. You would have been going through school

00:32:35.020 when Blair was in full swing. Indeed. Yes, yeah. Great years, great times. There were actually

00:32:39.940 decent times, to be honest. He still had edgy TV. Well, the early bit, anyway, yeah. Yeah, the energy and

00:32:44.280 the optimism in the air at that time was very good. But obviously, we're seeing what's come of that

00:32:48.120 now. And I feel like the mainstream kind of talks a lot about Gen Z, Gen Z, rather. And

00:32:53.800 it doesn't often talk to them, right? And when they do talk to them, it's often, we're treated

00:32:58.960 as like, you know, mythical creatures that are really difficult to understand and pin

00:33:02.480 down and all the rest of it. But I really don't think that it's that complicated. There

00:33:07.280 is also a narrative that comes out of some places that on the one side, Gen Z, Gen Z are

00:33:13.700 super liberal and progressive and woke and snowflakes and all the rest of it. Well, the ones

00:33:17.660 I talk to. Well, and then on the other side, there are those who are like super, you know,

00:33:21.480 all Gen Z are super based and they're, you know, becoming super right wing and all the

00:33:24.400 rest of it. And I don't think that either of those things are true. I think that both

00:33:27.460 of those narratives are serving essentially different political ends. And that the truth

00:33:31.260 of the matter is actually a lot more straightforward. But we'll get into that in a minute.

00:33:34.660 So who are Gen Z? Gen Z. I keep doing that. It's the Americanism of my upbringing

00:33:38.560 that's just infected my mind. So Gen Z are born between 97 and 2012. And as of the 2021

00:33:45.120 census, Gen Z is the most ethnically diverse generation in English and British history.

00:33:50.280 And according to it, 75% are white, 12% Asian, 6% are black, 5% are mixed, and 3% belong

00:33:56.620 to a kind of miscellaneous ethnic group. But what's interesting is the breakdown of those

00:34:00.700 different groups, because 60.5% of individuals identifying with mixed ethnic backgrounds are

00:34:06.160 under 25, 37.4% of Asians are under 25, yet 25.7% of whites were under 25. So the actual,

00:34:13.840 the age profile of the different groups in this country, well, it speaks to the aging

00:34:18.500 population of the indigenous population, which I think is kind of interesting.

00:34:22.940 You're just making the point how radically different this country is going to look

00:34:25.800 in a couple of generations.

00:34:27.080 Well, that's the point. Because remember, those statistics that I just read were from

00:34:29.380 the 2021 census. This was before the Boris wave, before the millions of new people that

00:34:34.540 came since then, to say nothing of the illegal migration, which of course is primarily young

00:34:38.220 men. So I wonder what the reality will actually be. I mean, certainly at the 2031 census, I

00:34:43.300 mean, God only knows. But if you, I mean, if you're walking the street, then you do tend

00:34:48.660 to see, and anecdotally, I would say that the majority of migrants tend to be quite young.

00:34:54.280 So you might know this, Harry. As I drive into Swindon in the morning, I come in through the

00:34:58.780 South, and I go past a college, and I genuinely don't know if it's a college for South Asians

00:35:03.960 only. Like, is there a college in Swindon that's just for South Asians? Or is it just that there

00:35:10.160 are so many South Asians that it just looks like it is?

00:35:13.940 I think the formal would literally be illegal under the Equality Act.

00:35:18.080 So maybe it's just a normal school. All I see every morning is hordes of South Asians.

00:35:22.660 I mean, in my town that I live in, I've noticed that the profile of the students who hang around

00:35:31.120 the town is still mostly British. So I would imagine it's more to do with the general demographics

00:35:36.140 of Swindon.

00:35:36.340 Because you got out of Swindon.

00:35:37.360 Yes, I got out of Swindon as soon as I could.

00:35:40.060 You made it out.

00:35:40.800 Yes, I made it out.

00:35:42.320 So on politics...

00:35:43.500 That was also one of the reasons as well.

00:35:45.680 At the 2024 election, the majority of young people, those aged 18 to 24, they did vote

00:35:53.340 for Labour. So roughly half, 40% of men, 40% of women.

00:35:56.620 Well, that just goes to prove they're looking for the most right-wing party they can find.

00:35:59.900 Well, perhaps, yeah. But they voted for Labour, and thereafter, about a third voted either

00:36:04.620 Lib Dem or Green, with a small minority, about one in five, voting broadly right-wing, let's

00:36:09.900 say, if you can call the Conservative Party right-wing. But I think this speaks to a number

00:36:13.860 of things. First of all, it speaks to the natural liberalness of young people, which

00:36:18.420 is a thing. It does exist. And I think that that's just because of the culture that we've

00:36:22.040 grown up in. I said before that I, for example, am a child of the Blairite education system,

00:36:25.880 which was shot through with liberal ideology. I was taught that Britain, for example, is

00:36:29.520 to be understood as being a nation of values, rather than a nation of people.

00:36:33.680 I went to a friend's house who had a kid doing his GCSEs histories, and I idly picked up

00:36:39.780 the textbook to have a look and see what they were teaching. And there was a

00:36:43.640 section, what caused the Second World War? And there was a one-sentence answer underneath.

00:36:49.700 It was caused by racism.

00:36:52.100 Which, how old are the students who are supposed to be reading this textbook?

00:36:55.480 I don't know, 13, 14, something like that.

00:36:58.380 I mean, where do you start with that?

00:37:00.640 I mean, because that feels like a five-year-old's explanation of it. It was put by a way for them.

00:37:06.100 Yeah, no, but that's basically, you are right, the liberal ideology also goes into the history

00:37:10.060 that we were taught, and in fact, it hinges entirely on the history that we were taught,

00:37:13.720 where, with my understanding that I got from school of what English history was, was there

00:37:20.460 was a civil war. Before that, there was a mean man called Henry VIII who didn't like his

00:37:27.580 women. And then, all of a sudden, you shoot forward to the Second World War and the Holocaust

00:37:33.880 and then civil rights. And the two main things that you were learning about that was that

00:37:38.860 both of those were caused by white people being mean.

00:37:42.080 Well, this is interesting.

00:37:43.000 So you've got to be very, very tolerant of people who are different.

00:37:45.420 It's funny that you've said this, because I was actually going to bring this up, because

00:37:47.740 my recollection of my historical education in primary and secondary school was literally

00:37:51.820 just learning about the Tudors and then the Second World War. And I think that I have

00:37:55.360 a pet theory on this.

00:37:56.120 I was lucky to get the Civil War, it seems.

00:37:58.380 Well, yes, indeed. But I've got a pet theory, which is that the centering of the Tudors,

00:38:03.040 and specifically Henry VIII, was done to present monarchy and that time as being one of tyranny

00:38:09.860 and madness and, oh my goodness, he was killing everybody and all the rest of it.

00:38:12.780 This is what happens when you get the bad king, is that they're very, very mean.

00:38:16.000 But we were never taught about the good kings. We were never taught about the Alfreds and

00:38:18.880 so on.

00:38:19.220 We never had any major modules that were centred around the height of the empire.

00:38:23.040 Well, exactly. Yeah, yeah. And then we were taught that the modern world begins in 1945,

00:38:28.380 and everything that's come since then has been positive and progressive.

00:38:30.940 Maybe 1948.

00:38:32.440 Yeah, well, indeed. But I think the vast majority of young people are not particularly political.

00:38:40.380 And this is something that I think those of us in the bubble tend to forget. Because

00:38:44.580 I can tell you anecdotally in my own friend group that most young people don't care about

00:38:48.040 politics. Most young people don't waste their time thinking about politics because they've

00:38:51.040 got more important things to worry about. Like, oh my goodness, I can't afford a house.

00:38:54.800 Or, oh my goodness, I'm being excessively taxed to the point where I can't afford to

00:38:57.860 move out of my parents' house until my early 30s, if I'm lucky, right? And so they don't

00:39:01.880 have the time or the capacity or the bandwidth to be thinking about politics. But insofar

00:39:06.240 as young people do think about politics, in my experience, and as is bared out by the

00:39:10.160 figures, the most important issue tends to be environment, which I find quite interesting.

00:39:14.960 And I think that speaks to the success.

00:39:17.020 So these are the issues that young people care about.

00:39:18.760 That's right, yeah. So it speaks to how successful that particular part of the state propaganda

00:39:24.420 has been. The fact that if you talk to your average young person who's not that interested

00:39:28.020 in politics, they'll say, well, the main thing I care about is just the environment and preserving

00:39:31.500 the environment.

00:39:31.540 Well, I mean, actually, I possibly see it a different way, because why is the environment

00:39:36.720 only up to that level, considering that's the only thing that ever gets pushed to them?

00:39:41.200 That housing, education, crime, immigration, the economy, and well, maybe Brexit doesn't.

00:39:46.620 Nobody cares about Brexit anymore.

00:39:48.320 Yeah, but none of those things get pushed relentlessly on them every time they turn on

00:39:51.980 a screen or go to school. So if anything, that line should be much higher.

00:39:55.600 Perhaps. But I think that, you know, economy there is the highest priority. That's not surprising,

00:39:59.740 because that's the lived reality of young people. Housing and health also being very sort of

00:40:05.440 important. Again, that's just because those are the basic things you need to live. But again,

00:40:10.020 you have to remember, we grew up on a diet of, you know, David Attenborough documentaries and

00:40:13.860 that kind of thing. And certainly in my own life, I spent a lot of time in the countryside when I

00:40:18.140 was a lad. So it doesn't surprise me that a lot of young people really care about the

00:40:22.380 environment. I think that that impulse has been co-opted, however, by power to serve this

00:40:27.620 agenda that actually seeks to immiserate ordinary people on the altar of net zero and these sorts

00:40:32.020 of things. But I think that it is interesting, this graph here, because if you see right at

00:40:35.820 the end there, April 2025, immigration and crime just about overtake environment. And I think

00:40:42.040 that's very interesting, because like housing, economy, and healthcare, it's becoming more

00:40:46.440 salient in their own lives. Because I think environmentalism is kind of a luxury belief.

00:40:50.400 It's something that you can commit time to mentally, and maybe even in your own life.

00:40:55.760 If you're not fearing for your own life and the lives of your loved ones.

00:40:58.420 And if you're not fearing that you're not going to be able to ever afford a house and ever be able

00:41:01.440 to start a family or anything else like that. And I think that as things continue to deteriorate,

00:41:07.200 in terms of crime and migration, we're only going to see that line there increase.

00:41:11.320 as these luxury beliefs fall away in the face of what's actually happening out on the street

00:41:16.380 on a day-to-day basis. The fact that a lot of young men fear for the safety of their mothers

00:41:21.360 and their sisters and their cousins and eventually their daughters. I think, and worry about having

00:41:26.600 their phone snatched out of their hand when they're walking the streets.

00:41:28.580 I suppose that jump at the end would have lined up with the Southport murders, wouldn't it?

00:41:31.880 Well, it did. Yeah. And that's, I think, definitely noteworthy.

00:41:34.940 But I think, broadly speaking, and I think as this graph, to an extent, bears out,

00:41:40.740 the desires of the majority of young people are not unreasonable. And they're not particularly

00:41:45.320 different to previous generations. Because there are, there is a small contingent of young people

00:41:49.000 who are politically engaged. And within that contingent, there is a percentage who are radically

00:41:53.060 left-wing, who I would describe as essentially being the foot soldiers of power, because they have

00:41:57.280 bought hook, line, and sinker into the narratives that they've been fed from authority for their

00:42:02.020 entire lives, whether that's things like climate, as we've seen here, whether it's things on identity,

00:42:06.660 politics, race, gender, you know, sexuality, and all the rest of it, or even economy. You know,

00:42:13.320 they are communists in a lot of cases, these people. And I view those people, it's interesting

00:42:18.260 what's happened to those people. And this is something that I've tried to explain to people

00:42:22.080 who are that way inclined in my own life, that does it ever bother you? Or do you ever stop to

00:42:26.940 consider the fact that all of your opinions line up with JPMorgan Chase, or Amazon, or Google,

00:42:33.140 or the UK government, or the civil service, or the Tony Blair Foundation? You know, you are the

00:42:37.400 foot soldier of power without actually realizing it. And you've bought into these ideas that have

00:42:40.560 been sold to you as being radical, and sold to you as being rebellious. And that natural rebellious

00:42:44.720 young spirit is attracted to that kind of thing. But they don't realize that they're actually just

00:42:48.700 being, well, sold a lie, ultimately. Yeah, they're being sold a bill of goods that doesn't have

00:42:52.680 their best interests at heart. Then within the contingent, you have the emerging, more radical,

00:42:57.840 sort of right-wing section of young people, which is primarily men, has to be said.

00:43:02.240 Which is obviously terrifying them, and so they feel the need to create a series of

00:43:05.400 adolescents that make everybody watch it. Yes. And I think, I mean, I do think that the power

00:43:09.620 structure that governs this country is certainly aware of that fact. But I think the narrative that

00:43:13.380 that's hugely widespread is overplayed. And I think that it's actually maybe a bit indulgent on our

00:43:17.520 side of things to think that all young people are super-based. It's a very online narrative.

00:43:21.440 It's just not true, right? It's just not true. Because what most ordinary young people want

00:43:25.520 is not some kind of revolution. It's not some kind of huge shake-up. There is an appetite for

00:43:30.480 radicalism. But actually, it's all in service of being able to start a family, and being able to

00:43:34.520 afford a house, being able to work a job that pays them fairly, and for which they're not

00:43:37.840 excessively taxed. And maybe, at the end of the day, have a bit of money left over to go on holiday.

00:43:41.880 I mean, seriously, I think that's what it comes down to. And I think we indulge, it's easy to indulge in

00:43:46.520 these ideas that there's going to be some kind of massive uprising of super-based young people,

00:43:51.080 but I just don't think that's going to happen. I don't think, frankly, things are bad enough for

00:43:55.760 that to happen yet. And I think that it's a good thing that the desires of most young people are

00:44:00.660 pretty ordinary, and pretty similar to those of their grandparents. Because I'm not going to sit

00:44:03.820 here and say that all young people are super-traditional, but insofar as tradition is a source

00:44:08.040 of comfort and safety and identity, things like family and community and nationhood even,

00:44:13.160 I think that we are going to see trends in that direction. So recently, I've written a series of

00:44:19.400 articles for the Daily Mail on these topics. So the first one was on the figures that came out

00:44:24.400 of Channel 4, which suggests that 52% of under-30s would be quite happy to do away with democracy

00:44:30.200 and have a strong leader who does not have to bother with parliament and elections.

00:44:33.680 Well, there's a number of reasons for this, because I think this caused some real shockwaves

00:44:39.700 when it dropped, this data. Because democracy is one of these things, first of all, it was sold

00:44:47.440 as a crucial British value in the education system. It's still enshrined in law.

00:44:53.160 It's a complete sham, though.

00:44:54.160 Yeah, since 2015, as being a fundamental part of our identity as a nation. But actually, I think

00:44:59.460 that young people, again, people my age and younger, are coming to realise that, well,

00:45:04.420 what kind of people is this system that we have right now that is called liberal democracy?

00:45:08.880 What kind of people are they selecting for? It's selecting for people, one, who are good

00:45:12.840 at winning elections, which is the type of people who are prepared to say things in order

00:45:16.640 to be popular, who are prepared to take money in order to run their campaigns, because running

00:45:21.280 for office is expensive. And so these are people who are completely devoid of authenticity.

00:45:25.580 Well, I've said yesterday that the only thing that matters within the democracy is who is

00:45:30.120 selecting the people that you can vote for.

00:45:31.920 Well, exactly. Yes. And I'll tell you this.

00:45:33.760 Those people are going to be globalists, if you want to use that word. They're going to

00:45:38.600 be people with their own interests who are going to select people who will only work for

00:45:42.500 their interests.

00:45:43.380 Well, just as a quick aside, I can tell you, from personal experience, that in the Conservative

00:45:47.540 Party, for example, the selection process for candidates is split into three different types

00:45:53.280 of seats. There are those which are completely unwinnable, those which are swing, and those

00:45:56.400 which are safe. And generally speaking, candidates will advance through those three seats. So

00:46:00.580 they'll go through three elections. First one, they're in an unwinnable. Second one, they're

00:46:04.200 in a maybe. And the third one, they're in a safe one, if they tow the party line and if

00:46:07.180 they're loyal. So this is not selecting for, certainly not selecting for merit, certainly

00:46:11.580 not selecting for competence. It's selecting for...

00:46:13.480 It's selecting for toadies.

00:46:14.220 Yeah. And not loyalty to the country, but loyalty to a party. And as far as I'm aware, the

00:46:17.660 same is true in the Labour Party.

00:46:19.280 I won't name any names, but I know people who have become Tory MPs. And when I look

00:46:24.480 back at it, these are some of the most toady people that I know. They're yes-men.

00:46:28.340 Yes. So that's the actual government side of democracy. But once again, I say that most

00:46:33.220 young people don't care about any of that. They don't watch the news. They don't care

00:46:35.900 about any of this. And so once again, it comes back to the lived reality. And so we're

00:46:39.420 told we live in a democracy. We're told that democracy is the greatest form of government

00:46:42.880 conceivable and that we've found the final answer to how we run our societies. But actually,

00:46:46.800 what is that delivering for young people? Well, it's everything I've said already.

00:46:50.000 Can't afford a house, excessive tax, jobs where you are working for a corporation that

00:46:55.060 doesn't care about you, to which you are just a number on a spreadsheet for a boss that doesn't

00:46:59.120 care about you and who you probably hate in a brightly lit, air-conditioned environment

00:47:02.500 that's completely against your natural kind of desires of biology.

00:47:05.560 That's bad enough for men, but they co-op women into this.

00:47:07.860 Yes.

00:47:08.140 They've convinced them you're better off working for a boss who is completely indifferent to

00:47:11.600 you rather than having children.

00:47:12.960 Yes.

00:47:13.360 Women are more natural conformists.

00:47:15.140 Yeah, and that's also true.

00:47:18.280 No offense to the anti-conformist ladies watching right now.

00:47:22.300 Indeed. And that's then to say nothing of the crime, to say nothing of the demographic

00:47:26.220 reality and the migration, to say nothing of the price of energy, once again on the altar

00:47:30.460 of net zero, to say nothing of the de-industrialization that's taken place in this country since the

00:47:34.440 80s, where young men, for example, who would probably be happier and more productive working

00:47:39.940 with their hands are forced into these environments where they feel alien.

00:47:44.260 Well, they're forced to work in an office environment where they have to go to eight to ten meetings

00:47:47.740 a day.

00:47:48.300 Yeah. And for what?

00:47:49.300 Organised for women. Well, it's basically adult daycare to stop women having children.

00:47:53.480 Well, indeed. And so that's what democracy is delivering for young people. In other words,

00:47:57.860 it's delivering nothing. It's delivering nothing of substance. And I think that in reaction

00:48:02.280 to that, it's not surprising that young people are saying, well, why are we even bothering

00:48:05.000 with any of this in the first place? And I will say that in terms of this particular

00:48:08.740 story, I do think that the demographic data that I cited at the start is actually relevant

00:48:13.720 because I think there's a foreign appetite for the strongman that is becoming more prevalent

00:48:20.160 in British culture because of the demographic shifts that we are undergoing. But actually,

00:48:24.480 I don't think that it's just that. I think that there is a genuine appetite among young

00:48:28.280 people on the left and the right, those who are politically engaged, who are done with

00:48:31.360 democracy. And that's a controversial thing to say. But what it speaks to is the breakdown

00:48:35.220 of the sacred narratives that have been, well, essentially had a stranglehold on our culture

00:48:40.600 for the better part of the last 50 years. Things like democracy, liberalism and progress

00:48:44.940 and all this sort of thing.

00:48:45.360 Oh, I get why the oligarchy that controls the democratic system at the moment and gatekeeps

00:48:50.560 it, I understand why they like it.

00:48:52.660 Yeah. But again, if you actually then contrast the promises of democracy with the lived reality

00:48:58.560 on the ground where the high streets are boarded up or full of shops that are very obvious

00:49:02.960 fronts for money laundering or there's graffiti everywhere or litter, naming no names, Swindon

00:49:06.920 and all the rest of it. The lived reality is not progress. The lived reality is decline.

00:49:11.260 And so it's no surprise that people are turning, young people are turning to the system that's

00:49:14.900 presided over this decline and say, well, what's the point of any of this? Right.

00:49:19.040 The next article I wrote was on the topic of conscription and military service, because

00:49:23.980 this was citing data that found that only 11% of Gen Z would fight for Britain with 41% saying

00:49:29.540 that there are no circumstances at all in which they would pick up arms, including actual

00:49:33.400 invasion.

00:49:34.420 Well, Charlie, when I first met you, it was probably only a couple of years ago you were

00:49:37.180 trying to join the army at the time.

00:49:38.300 That's right. Yeah. Viewers may remember from that time that I was going through the application

00:49:41.700 process. And as I've said on the show already, I was denied entry to the army. So I was a young

00:49:46.640 man, a patriotic young man, patriotic. I'm full of these Americanisms today. It's very

00:49:52.060 bad. Patriotic young man who I was prepared to put my politics to one side to pursue a career

00:49:58.620 in the army. Because I liked the lifestyle, the physical demands, the strategy, the organizational

00:50:05.580 skills.

00:50:06.440 Camaraderie.

00:50:06.720 The fact you get to make stuff up every now and again.

00:50:08.560 Exactly. Yeah. Because, you know, sure, people say that the army is all woke and all

00:50:11.960 the rest of it. But actually, when push comes to shove, an army is an army. It doesn't really

00:50:15.380 matter about the superficial part of it.

00:50:16.500 I saw an ad for the army on social media the other day. Basically, everyone was represented

00:50:22.080 with one omission.

00:50:24.360 Oh, yeah.

00:50:24.620 No white men on it anywhere.

00:50:26.180 Well, that suggests that we're not going to be going to war anytime soon. That's a change

00:50:30.500 from even earlier this year.

00:50:32.220 Well, they've obviously changed their mind. Okay, actually, the threat of war is off. We

00:50:35.400 can go back to...

00:50:36.200 Yeah, actually going on a ground war against Russia would be really stupid of us.

00:50:39.900 Yeah. I mean, actually, if we are going to have a ground war in Russia, I kind of like

00:50:43.440 the ad. It's like, yeah, go on, full your boots.

00:50:46.980 But once again, this, I think, comes back to just the lived reality of young people in

00:50:50.260 this country. Because why would you fight for a regime that has presided over just pure

00:50:53.900 decline, that's told you that you're evil and racist for belonging to this country?

00:50:58.220 Yes. And another study that I cited in this article was the fact that 48% of Gen Z do

00:51:03.620 believe that this country is racist. Now, I'm forgetting off the top of my head where

00:51:07.340 that data was from. But I remember seeing it and the people who were interviewed as part

00:51:11.400 of the coverage for it were, let's just say, their parents and grandparents probably weren't

00:51:15.420 born here, right? So I think that there is a certain bias in that figure. But at the same

00:51:19.100 time, again, anecdotally, I can tell you that it is quite a widespread opinion that Britain's

00:51:23.480 history, at the very least, is racist and that institutional racism is a problem. Because

00:51:27.220 once again, this is a narrative that figures of authority have told young people that narrative.

00:51:33.580 And why wouldn't we believe it? If figures of authority, if teachers and people on the

00:51:37.720 news are saying that, why would you challenge it? Because I think there is a narrative that

00:51:41.260 young people are all super radical. And I think there is a contingent for whom that's

00:51:44.520 true. But actually, for the most part, young people are the most conformist element of

00:51:47.660 any society, because it's all they've ever known, these narratives. But actually, I think

00:51:51.680 that, you know, the fundamental reason for this, for this particular story about young

00:51:56.280 people not being prepared to fight for the country, it does come back to what I've said

00:51:59.380 already. It comes back to the fact that there are more pressing concerns right now. Because

00:52:02.700 if you think of those lads who went off in the First and Second World War to fight, you

00:52:06.560 know, quote, for Britain, there was at least a degree of material prosperity and cohesiveness

00:52:12.540 and a sense of belonging, which you've already brought up today, in the country for which

00:52:16.320 they were fighting. But young people today feel like they are just completely adrift and

00:52:20.400 without roots in Britain, because this country has been so deculturized or deculturated.

00:52:26.720 If they try to do conscription now, I'm probably too old at this point. But I just say, I'll

00:52:31.000 just put me in prison. I'm not doing it. I don't care.

00:52:33.940 Well, I said in this article that I would sooner be a conscientious objector than be sent to

00:52:37.720 Ukraine or Gaza to fight for what amount to the foreign policy interests of the American

00:52:41.380 State Department and indeed the British government. Because once again, if I at least had the sense

00:52:45.500 that they were in my corner, if I at least had the sense that the British government was

00:52:48.540 on my side and had my best interests at heart, I'd be more open to it, right? But they don't.

00:52:53.020 And it's a tangible reality that they don't. And so the next story that I wrote was here,

00:52:59.160 came out on Wednesday, St. George's Day, about English identity. And this was, well, I think

00:53:06.160 this is the crucial part of all of this, is that young people, Gen Z, under 30s, we are a

00:53:11.000 generation without identity. Because we've been taught that identity is to be found in

00:53:15.260 some form of individual self-expression, whether that's the pursuit of a career or the pursuit

00:53:20.260 of consumerism or the pursuit of credentials in the forms of university, education, all

00:53:24.980 the rest of it, or indeed the pursuit of identity in things like sexuality and race and gender

00:53:29.260 and all that sort of thing. And I think we're finding that on the other end of that is nothing.

00:53:33.920 It's just emptiness, depression and anxiety. A quarter of Gen Z are depressed and half say

00:53:38.600 that they are anxious all the time. And it's no surprise, because without a sense of rootedness

00:53:44.060 and belonging, you are just, you know, you're out in the wilderness. And that's quite a stressful

00:53:48.280 place to be. And it's obviously not a physical wilderness. I mean, you know, the shops are

00:53:51.660 still full of food, the lights still turn on, the car still starts and all the rest of it.

00:53:55.120 But it's a spiritual wilderness. It's a metaphysical wilderness.

00:53:57.060 I guess the other 25% must be watching Lotus Easeers then.

00:53:59.360 Well, maybe. Yes, indeed. But I, in this story, spoke about my own lived experience, which

00:54:05.340 is one of these concepts that, you know, it's owned by the left, but actually I think the right

00:54:08.340 should be co-opting it. Because the lived experience of the English Zoomer, for example,

00:54:12.220 is very relevant, I think, to the formation of our worldview and our opinions. And I contrasted,

00:54:18.800 first of all, the kind of, the culture in which I was growing up, in which Britain was

00:54:25.580 described as being a nation of values, in which Britain didn't really have a sense of identity,

00:54:31.720 certainly from all the major mainstream mouthpieces of power. But at the same time, I had the most,

00:54:38.340 English childhood imaginable, right? I went to a Church of England primary school that sat next

00:54:43.480 to a Saxon church over a thousand years old. My weekends were spent going to castles and manor

00:54:48.980 houses and gardens and ruins and exploring them or going to, there was a small local theatre we used

00:54:53.660 to go to and watch renditions of Shakespeare. And on holiday, we'd go to Cornwall and Dorset and

00:54:58.640 Sussex and, you know, eat roast dinners in pubs and have scones and tea and tea rooms and have

00:55:03.660 picnics on the beach and all the rest of it. These very stereotypical English pursuits. And,

00:55:07.880 you know, we would watch Fawlty Towers and Alan Partridge and listen to The Beatles and Oasis

00:55:11.440 and read The Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter and all this sort of thing. And I don't, you know,

00:55:14.820 I don't think, I think it was a revealed preference because my parents didn't know

00:55:17.360 what they were doing, but they were just giving me what they thought was a good upbringing. It was,

00:55:20.600 it was a phenomenal, fantastic upbringing. I wouldn't have had it any other way.

00:55:23.760 And I want to give my own children that same gift, right? The gift of an English childhood.

00:55:27.820 Um, but I, I, I fear that that is going away. Um, and so I think that the right in general needs

00:55:35.060 to understand that the question, the fundamental question, um, when it comes to we zoomers, um,

00:55:41.720 is one of identity, uh, because we wonder why kind of left-wing identity politics has been so big

00:55:46.360 over the last 10 years. And it's partly because it's become, it's been propped up by power. It's

00:55:51.380 partly because it's been centered and funded, um, by, uh, you know, large powerful organizations,

00:55:56.340 but it's also because we're looking for identity. And so the first thing that comes our way,

00:56:01.400 whether that is, you know, the, the, the climate stuff or the race stuff or the gender stuff or

00:56:05.400 whatever, or the LGBT or the rest of it, you know, we're going to jump at that, at that chance.

00:56:10.060 Um, but actually I say that the right should be embracing identity and we should be saying, look,

00:56:14.520 these nouveau sources of identity, um, that you're being offered by the power structure that

00:56:19.100 currently governs us. It doesn't have your best interests at heart. And ultimately on the other

00:56:22.920 end of them, you're not going to find a sense of belonging actually where you will find a sense of

00:56:26.860 belonging is in those traditional sources of identity that the power structure has told us

00:56:31.280 to, uh, avoid and to ignore and to regard as being oppressive and, uh, and backwards and old fashioned

00:56:36.960 things like the family and the community and the nation and faith. Um, and so that's why as much

00:56:42.380 as I say, the majority of young people are not political. And as much as I say that there is still

00:56:46.160 a liberal, um, outlook for the majority of them, whether they realize it or not, there is a revealed

00:56:50.760 preference coming through now for these traditional sources of identity as things continue to frankly

00:56:56.520 decline, um, because we need a refuge from the kind of chaos of the modern world. And I think that

00:57:02.580 refuge will be inevitably in tradition. And so I think that it is as much as things, as much as the

00:57:09.240 zoomers are decried and derided as being kind of a bit pathetic and a bit weak and all the rest of it,

00:57:13.820 I really do believe that it is going to be our generation that finds and, and rekindles these

00:57:20.380 things that are actually foundational to civilization. Um, and so I suppose I'll leave it

00:57:26.340 there. Um, my, my, my point here is that I think that we too often, uh, are prepared to come down on

00:57:33.600 young people, um, as being, you know, stupid and out of touch and clueless about the world. And maybe

00:57:38.760 that's true. And maybe part of that is because of the education that we've been through, but actually

00:57:42.400 our desires are not particularly different to any other generation. Um, we just want to belong.

00:57:47.760 And, uh, well, I think we're finding where belonging actually is. And it's in things like family

00:57:53.040 and nation and tradition.

00:57:56.280 Yes.

00:57:57.560 To some, go to the pub with your mates. That's where you'll find community and values and friendship

00:58:03.140 and all sorts of great things. And you can have fun while you're at it. And that's what you should

00:58:07.460 be doing. If you're a young person, spending time with your friends and having fun. Dragon

00:58:11.260 lady, Chris says, congratulations, Charlie. I think you've taken Ben Shapiro's speed talking

00:58:16.160 crown from, I was trying to squeeze it all in in half an hour. I just, uh, glad you're

00:58:21.120 here. You're my second favorite Lotus Eaters guest. Only second. Oh my goodness. That's

00:58:26.020 some disrespect.

00:58:26.460 What a heartwarming praise. Logan17pine says, in me is two voices. One says to burn it all

00:58:32.740 down and the other one says we must return to the 1600s. Bit of a modernist, are you?

00:58:37.380 Jester says, how does English history sound so similar to American history, bad king, civil

00:58:41.540 war, World War II, civil rights? Because we are a vassal state of America and therefore have

00:58:46.740 an Americanized education system. A. Miller says, lived reality. You mean experience. You

00:58:52.100 stop using leftist news?

00:58:53.660 I disagree. We need to co-opt these phrases from them. And I'll tell you another one we

00:58:57.060 need to co-opt is the word progress, because the left do not offer progress anymore. They've

00:59:00.520 owned that concept for 50 years. But actually, this idea of going back, this kind of conservatism

00:59:06.140 needs to be dispensed with on the right, because the only way is forward. The question is one

00:59:09.920 of direction.

00:59:10.880 No, I don't want to conserve a set of Blair White institutions.

00:59:13.120 That's a very Italian perspective you're putting forward. I'll leave it at that.

00:59:16.960 And Hedonism says, the media pundits and everyone really all said the exact same things

00:59:20.800 about millennials 10 years ago, and they now say about Gen Z. They're woke, they're lazy,

00:59:25.480 they're becoming more right-wing, etc. There's a preset selection of stock phrases that older

00:59:32.180 generations use to describe the younger generations, whereas I think there's a lot more similarity

00:59:36.220 between these generations than people would like. The biggest difference between, say,

00:59:40.300 millennials or old millennials and Zoomers is the technological access, really, the access

00:59:46.380 to phones 24-7. Logan again says, I'll be happy with the return of the 1950s. Not going

00:59:53.200 to happen, sadly.

00:59:53.840 There's no return.

00:59:54.360 The only way is forward. The only way out is through.

00:59:57.100 But we can bring the best of that time with us forward. We can't return to it, but actually

01:00:01.120 some of the things from that time.

01:00:01.880 We might get something like the 50s if you go through something like some of the earlier

01:00:04.960 decades. Well, perhaps.

01:00:06.860 Skittenhunt says, you can join the US military pretty easily as a foreigner and get citizenship.

01:00:11.160 My husband served with several Brits and other immigrants. Our military will take anyone that

01:00:15.180 even asks me. So there's an option for you. Are you willing to die for a certain ally?

01:00:20.760 No.

01:00:21.540 Oh, never mind then.

01:00:24.160 Are you willing to blow up brown people in the Middle East is a better question.

01:00:27.900 I'm a Christian. I don't think that's very good.

01:00:29.820 Oh, okay, all right, okay. All right, keep your secrets. J.M. Denton, anecdotally,

01:00:34.560 the most friendly and base people I meet in public in Texas are Zoomers. Well, that's

01:00:38.220 good to hear because politeness, amicability, being able to be friendly with people are

01:00:42.700 underappreciated virtue.

01:00:44.200 And if I could just say very quickly on that, the friendly point, this I think is another

01:00:46.980 aspect of Zoomer identity that people don't talk about enough is we have grown up in this

01:00:51.160 extremely ironic, you know, irreverent culture that doesn't take anything seriously.

01:00:55.880 Anything taken seriously is viewed as something to be kind of made fun of. But actually that's

01:00:59.760 giving us an appetite for authenticity. And so I think you're finding an increasing cohort

01:01:03.820 of Zoomers, again, a minority, who are just kind of unashamedly nice. And I know that

01:01:08.420 sounds almost really trite, but actually it's true.

01:01:10.660 Most of my friends are people that I would consider nice, but then again, I am.

01:01:14.100 That's good. That's positive.

01:01:15.720 Well, to be fair, the sort of people I grew up with did all embrace kind of a post-irony,

01:01:23.380 trying to be as edgy as possible, whilst being very, very, very, very cynical, and now

01:01:28.620 have flipped from their old edgy ways, the Trolls Regret i-dubs thing, where now they're

01:01:33.520 all raging leftists.

01:01:35.160 Yeah.

01:01:35.480 And that inbuilt cynicism to all of them, the way that they all just had a lot of hate

01:01:41.900 in their hearts, has really come through. And it makes them very unpleasant to be around,

01:01:46.220 so I've abandoned a lot of them.

01:01:47.860 I don't blame you.

01:01:48.580 Yeah.

01:01:48.720 And a lot of the people I hang out with now are people I just unironically get along

01:01:52.540 with. It's nice. You should try it too.

01:01:54.820 Anyway, let's see if I can speed through this last segment now, talking about the judicial

01:01:59.240 block aid that has erected itself against all of Donald Trump's executive orders. Of course,

01:02:04.700 at the beginning of his administration this year, Donald Trump put forward a load of executive

01:02:08.680 orders that were supposed to pull back a lot of the woke DEI kind of things that were going

01:02:15.160 through American institutions at the time, and still are in many cases. And what we have

01:02:20.880 found is that there is, unsurprisingly, as many people predicted at the time, a large

01:02:25.260 cohort of activist Democrat judges who are putting through federal blocks. Now, I looked

01:02:30.380 into this just to make sure that I wouldn't misrepresent it. I'm not American. I'm not

01:02:33.720 entirely up to date with how the system works over there. But from my understanding, the

01:02:37.960 executive orders can be challenged in court if groups put lawsuits against them. And what

01:02:43.220 can happen is that the lawsuits and the lawyers who are administering them can shop out for

01:02:48.160 particular judges who will go along with them. And if they find a judge who agrees with the

01:02:52.900 lawsuit, they can put forward a temporary injunction, which blocks that executive order

01:02:58.640 from being put forward. I'm completely mystified by this, because an executive order is an order

01:03:02.240 of the executive, which he controls. Yes, but given the separation of powers from the judiciary

01:03:07.480 and the executive, one can override the other. The judiciary in the form, in many cases, of

01:03:13.680 a single federal judge, upon receiving a lawsuit, if they agree with the lawsuit and don't dismiss

01:03:18.920 it, they can put that temporary injunction. That's the way it's being interpreted. But I mean,

01:03:21.980 really, there are three branches of government in the US, and you really need two of them to gang

01:03:26.220 up on one of the other ones in order to force a decision. Whereas the executive seems to be

01:03:31.580 acquiescing to these insane judges, rather than taking the Andrew Draxon route, which is to say,

01:03:36.300 OK, well, thanks for your judgment, but how are you going to enforce it? Have you got an army?

01:03:40.160 No, you haven't. Right, fair enough. Well, there is the institutional aspect of it,

01:03:44.940 which is that the institution is, the presidency, to maintain legitimacy, is always trying to work

01:03:50.860 within the rules. Donald Trump, through the executive order, is trying to change the rules

01:03:54.660 and bend some of the rules, and they still are to get around some of these temporary injunctions.

01:03:59.720 But realistically, the conservative side in America and Britain and everywhere else has been

01:04:05.240 too addicted to the rules for a very, very long time. When the rules have been purposefully

01:04:09.940 established to subvert anything that the right would actually want. The purpose of a system is

01:04:15.340 what it does, and if we take that mantra and apply it to this, well, the American judicial system

01:04:21.480 appears to want to make sure that your kids are brainwashed, that illegals have more rights for

01:04:26.940 than you, and that they can vote in your elections. Because, as we can see here, in the last 24 hours,

01:04:32.900 judges, federal judges through temporary injunctions, have ordered the Trump admin to bring back

01:04:38.820 illegal aliens from El Salvador, restore funds to schools practising DEI, restore funds to

01:04:44.620 sanctuary cities, and drop proof of citizenship mandates for voter registration.

01:04:49.420 None of those are questions for the judiciary. All of those are questions for the executive.

01:04:54.060 Well, this is how the system works, though.

01:04:57.040 This is, sadly, how it works. So let's look at what this is, and I would say, again, if that's how

01:05:02.280 the system works, the whole system appears to be broken on purpose.

01:05:04.580 Just change the system, then.

01:05:06.080 Pardon?

01:05:06.300 Just change the system.

01:05:07.520 Well, that's what people are trying to do. But do they have the willpower and backbone to

01:05:11.620 actually do what needs to be done to change the system? We'll find out. What I would say is the

01:05:17.620 system is broken either on purpose, or it was, more likely, built for a nation where there is a broad

01:05:23.940 consensus between what everybody agrees to and the rules that everybody abides by, and much less

01:05:29.600 division. So America, as it stands right now, is not a country that fits the system that was put

01:05:35.080 in place for it 250 years ago. That's the sad fact of it. You can't have a nation like America

01:05:40.820 right now under the rules that America was set up with, because it's just a very, very different

01:05:45.840 country. Is the box working? The box is not working. The mouse is working. So here we go.

01:05:50.860 Oh, bloody hell. I'm boomering it, Dan. You've infected me. You've infected me with your

01:05:55.440 blast boomerisms. You're a boomer, really, aren't you? Anyway.

01:06:00.380 Spiritually. Yeah, spiritual boomer. Anyway, so what's happened is that since the executive

01:06:04.820 orders came out, there have been 170 lawsuits filed against them, and certain judges have gone ahead

01:06:11.620 and blocked some of the executive orders, like federal judge in New Hampshire blocked a series

01:06:16.900 of directives from the education department, including a memo ordering an end to any practice

01:06:21.320 that differentiates people based on their race, and another asking for assurances that schools

01:06:26.520 don't use DEI practices deemed discriminatory. So is this what colorblind meritocracy looks like?

01:06:33.160 No. No, it's not. So even the 90s ideal is being blocked by the judiciary at the moment.

01:06:38.560 In another case out of Maryland, the admin was ordered to facilitate the return of a man who was

01:06:43.460 deported to El Salvador last month, despite having a pending asylum application, because asylum,

01:06:48.720 like everything else, is set up to make sure that you have foreign aliens in your country and can't

01:06:55.080 get them out of your country. That's the whole point of it. U.S. District Judge Stephanie Gallinger

01:07:01.000 in Maryland said the government violated a 2019 settlement agreement when it deported

01:07:06.800 a 20-year-old Venezuelan native, only identified as Christian. In Texas, a court document from an

01:07:14.180 Immigration and Customs Enforcement official was unsealed, revealing that migrants subject to

01:07:18.420 removal under the Alien Enemies Act are only getting about 12 hours to decide if they want to

01:07:22.520 contest their planned deportation to a prison in El Salvador. The government attorneys said that

01:07:28.100 they were being given 24 hours to make the decision, and the ACLU, that organization that cares so deeply

01:07:34.020 about the historic American people and the well-being of the nation, says the time period violates

01:07:39.300 a Supreme Court order that allowed the Trump admin to continue deportations, but that required the

01:07:43.920 government give detainees a reasonable time to argue that a judge, to a judge, that they should not be

01:07:49.940 removed. Now, what that includes is being given a pro bono lawyer, 30 days to make your case, and then

01:07:57.200 afterwards all of the legal fiasco that goes along with that. And given how many illegals there are in

01:08:03.760 the country in America, the whole point of forcing the government to have to provide them with all of

01:08:08.860 these privileges, not rights, because all of these people are illegal in the country in the first

01:08:14.200 place, so in my opinion, my esteemed opinion, should not be granted rights in the first place, because

01:08:20.240 you're not a citizen, you broke into the country, you are a criminal. The whole point of giving them

01:08:25.060 these privileges is to make sure that the entire system stays clogged. If you've got millions of

01:08:29.700 people you're trying to get out of the country, and every single one of them needs a lawyer, every one of

01:08:33.200 them needs a certain amount of time to be able to have their due process, then the whole point is to

01:08:38.460 rig the system so nothing gets done. Well, and again, I just want to stress this point.

01:08:43.640 US District Judge Stephanie Gallagher in Maryland does not have an army, and he does. So I'm really

01:08:51.980 going to need an American to explain it to me in the comments. Why the hell is he going along with

01:08:56.800 this? Just say no. Well, that would be a solution. Or will he do it? Does he have it in him? People have

01:09:05.040 been complaining about Trump for a while now, that he's been backing down on quite a few things, such

01:09:09.980 as the tariffs, and such as some of these peace talks with Putin and Zelensky, and such. So it's

01:09:15.880 a misinterpretation to say he's backing down on the tariffs. I mean, well, some people are claiming

01:09:19.840 that that's what he's doing. And so the question is, does he have the backbone to back up his bark

01:09:26.180 with a bite? So I mean, if he just defies the judges, then like I say, it takes the other two

01:09:32.540 branches of government, the judiciary and the legislative to act against him. But if they lose

01:09:38.360 the House and the Senate, they're going to impeach him anyway. So they might as well be impeached for

01:09:43.080 defying the judges. So you're saying that he might as well get what needs to be done, done, and then face

01:09:49.640 the consequences afterwards. Yes. Well, let's see some of the judges themselves who are putting this

01:09:55.860 through. Can you guess? It is Obama-appointed judge making sure that your schools still have DEI in

01:10:02.940 them. Obama-appointed judge making sure that you've got sanctuary cities still. Clinton-appointed judge

01:10:09.600 saying that you need to make sure that they have due process if you're illegally in the country. So

01:10:14.020 yeah, again, yeah, a pro bono lawyer, 30 days notice, and a hearing before removing them. So

01:10:19.640 again, with the amount of illegals that there are in the country, that's going to make sure that the

01:10:23.600 entire system is completely clogged up. Of course, the ACLU didn't really care all that much when it was

01:10:28.860 Obama doing this, because they are biased. These are not neutral actions, because the whole point of

01:10:35.560 the separation of powers was this idea that each of the institutions within them would be broadly

01:10:40.200 neutral. But the system is so... How'd that work out? Yeah, exactly. That was a fantasy, in the words

01:10:46.120 of Adam Curtis. Adam Curtis, yeah. Yes. Which means that what you actually get is a load of activists

01:10:51.700 on one side or the other, and judges and lawyers shopping out for the activist judges that will give

01:10:57.460 them what they want. So the entire system is broken and rigged to make sure that nothing productive

01:11:03.380 ever gets done, but allows for the gradual shift of things ever leftwards to make sure that the

01:11:08.740 country is unrecognisable. Because as far as I'm aware, I've never been to America, but from what

01:11:13.400 I can tell, even people in America who've been there say that it's unrecognisable from what it

01:11:18.260 was 50, 60 years ago, as is the case with most Western nations. And another Clinton-appointed

01:11:24.520 district judge blocking the citizenship one. If we look at the article talking about this, I keep

01:11:31.000 pressing the box, but it's not working. So, after Trump issued an executive order last month

01:11:36.300 preserving and protecting the integrity of American elections, three separate lawsuits were filed

01:11:40.400 in the DC Federal Court to challenge the policy, including lawsuits filed by the Democratic National

01:11:46.000 Committee with the help of Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, the League of United Latin American

01:11:52.880 Citizens, and the NAACP. So all of these are self-interested parties. There's nothing neutral or

01:12:00.020 constitutional about this. The Latin American citizens want to make sure that, hey, my cousin

01:12:05.780 SA, he needs to get in to vote, eh? The NAACP want to make sure that their constituents, who may not

01:12:12.400 have ID for some reason, can vote. And the Democrat, the DNC, want to make sure that their natural

01:12:19.500 constituents, illegals, can vote. That's all this is. That's all this is, and they just shop out to

01:12:25.640 judges who will say, yep, sounds good to me. And do we think that these judges are just useful

01:12:30.500 idiots? Because I don't think that, I mean, I think that these people are just true believers.

01:12:34.080 No, no, I don't think they're useful idiots. I think that they know what they're doing to the

01:12:37.140 country, and that's why they're in the positions that they're in. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know

01:12:41.160 if I always buy that it is pure malice that drives these people, because I think that a lot of them

01:12:44.840 genuinely believe they're doing the right thing. I think they are true believers.

01:12:47.320 They're quite possibly spiteful mutants, as well as supping from the cup of eating.

01:12:51.100 Yeah, yeah. And then the Trump admin is still trying to get it done using some technical

01:12:58.660 haggling to make sure that they can still try and get people out, because one of the things that

01:13:04.860 they were doing with the Illegal Aliens Act of, what was it, 1798, was that they were trying to

01:13:10.800 get rid of the Trendy Aragua gang that had infiltrated the country and was causing so much

01:13:15.220 trouble last year. And so they're still deporting these people, and the way that they're wrangling it

01:13:20.340 is that they said, well, actually, it was not the Department of Defense that was able to,

01:13:28.360 that kicked them out. Oh, sorry, it was not the Department of Homeland Security that deported them.

01:13:33.060 We got the Department of Defense to do it instead, because the lawsuit was only against the DHS.

01:13:38.760 So they're still trying to find some wiggle room to make it work, but all that means is that the

01:13:44.500 next lawsuit will make sure to include all of these departments that could potentially carry out the

01:13:49.140 deportations. So to say, you know, we had the same problem in Britain of a overly powerful and

01:13:54.680 politicized judiciary. And people wonder why the story that I cited in my segment about young people

01:14:00.100 losing faith in democracy, why that's such a prevalent opinion, because we see things like

01:14:03.300 this, where the nominal executive in America can't actually do anything that are in the interests of

01:14:08.300 ordinary people. He's trying to implement the policies that got him voted in. Yeah. Domestic policies

01:14:14.320 that got him voted in were going to deport all of the illegals, make everything cheaper for you, and

01:14:19.860 we're going to get a golden age. And all of the institutions, which is what whenever you see the

01:14:23.960 mainstream commenters talk about what democracy is, they don't say anything about the will of the

01:14:27.880 people. If anything, they're more likely to talk about the tyranny of the majority. Yeah. What they'll

01:14:31.560 talk about is the democratic institutions which are in place to protect against the tyranny of the

01:14:37.320 majority. Yeah. Which means that the democratic system in itself is a complete contradiction. You

01:14:42.460 can't have both at the same time. I've thought this before, actually, that when you see that clip

01:14:47.020 of all the news hosts saying this is extremely dangerous for our democracy, you have to think of

01:14:51.440 that in terms of like capital D democracy. They are referring to the structure itself. They're not

01:14:56.040 referring to a system. Yeah. And in the same way that when we would say monarchy, we're talking about,

01:15:01.020 you know, the royal family and their, you know, the kind of the structure that exists around them.

01:15:04.980 In the same way, when we say the democracy, we're talking about, well, these people. Yeah. I mean,

01:15:09.260 because these institutions, they're staffed by people who have been unelected. They've been put

01:15:13.620 into positions by politically interested actors. In the same way that Tony Blair started all of those

01:15:19.020 NGOs that would be staffed with Blairites to make sure that they could clog up the system and make

01:15:23.240 sure only Blairite things happen. Yeah. That's what these people are trying to protect when they say

01:15:28.080 the institutions, because nobody believes anymore that the institutions are just there to make sure that

01:15:33.760 everybody sticks to the rules in a neutral way. Yeah. That's not what they're there. You've got a

01:15:37.560 photo of an El Salvadorian prison up there. Bekele had the same problem with judges, is that judges

01:15:42.520 were trying to wreck everything he did and he dealt with them. I don't know how he dealt with them.

01:15:45.760 I believe he just, didn't he just get the army to go in, arrest all of MS-13 anyway, and then when-

01:15:50.860 No, I'm talking about the judges. Oh, the judges. Oh, okay. You know, so he had the same problem

01:15:54.140 with judges and he sorted out. Maybe he used the army on the judges as well. I don't know.

01:15:58.320 But whatever he did, do that. But Harry, like you said, it just comes back to will. It comes back

01:16:02.960 to the kind of person who's going to stare down the barrel and not blink when they're challenged.

01:16:06.060 If it comes to a state of crisis, and I think there is a national emergency in America, I think

01:16:10.480 there's a national emergency in many countries in the West, it comes to the point of who's willing to

01:16:14.800 actually exercise executive power to get done what needs to be done. Well, that's, I mean, in Britain,

01:16:19.960 certainly, I'm of the belief that a state of emergency is necessary to, you know, to get past all the nonsense.

01:16:24.860 The point is, well, yes, if our enemies are going to do that to hurt us, then we should be firing back

01:16:40.940 Well, it's a tool in the toolbox, right? And for so long, the right have been so scared of exercising any

01:16:46.160 kind of political tool, whether that's the state or using, for example-

01:16:49.500 Well, that would make us just as bad as them.

01:16:51.280 Oh, you're so right. I hadn't considered that.

01:16:52.760 No, we need to be worse. No, I'm serious. We need to be much worse.

01:16:57.420 We just need to be prepared to play the same game as them.

01:16:59.700 You're all right, because listen to these people who have been deported against the wishes of the courts

01:17:06.240 and what it was that they did. So this was four men who were all members of Tren de Aragua,

01:17:11.580 so immediately some South American, Central American gang you don't want in the country in the first place

01:17:16.920 because they are criminals. So each of the four men were identified as members.

01:17:21.060 According to the declaration of Tracy Huttle, a unit chief of field operations with the US, with ICE,

01:17:27.980 one man admitted he was a member of the gang and that he recruited prostitutes for the organization,

01:17:33.300 and another was charged with multiple crimes, including a discharge of firearm and theft.

01:17:37.960 Another man is allegedly a sex offender who was charged with human smuggling and convicted for domestic assault,

01:17:44.720 and the last was arrested for possession and use of drug-related objects.

01:17:47.540 So they're all violent, sex offender, criminal, drug trafficking, human trafficking gang members,

01:17:54.680 and the system, the due process system, would have you believe that it's only fair to waste the American taxpayers' time and money

01:18:04.800 by making sure they get their day in court.

01:18:07.980 Some, I assume, are good people.

01:18:09.060 Yeah, so, because, remember, deporting criminals is literally the Holocaust, according to places like The Forward.

01:18:18.140 Now, this article is exactly what you expect it to be.

01:18:21.780 Yom HaShoah has taught us that we need to be kind to criminals.

01:18:25.280 I don't want to read anything in the article. I want you to pay attention to this photo.

01:18:29.800 Christy Noem, Secretary of Homeland Security, looks at men deported under President Donald Trump's administration

01:18:35.540 during a tour of the Seacott prison in El Salvador on March 26th.

01:18:39.580 Now, they say you can't identify members of MS-13 based on their tattoos.

01:18:44.940 There's no signifiers that men with tattoos happen to be a member of MS-13.

01:18:49.680 Could they be making that argument?

01:18:51.560 Because if you look at the tattoos, there's a big MS.

01:18:55.960 Well, maybe all of those guys with their shirts off in the front row.

01:18:58.580 Maybe they just shop at Marks and Spencers.

01:19:01.040 Maybe. Perhaps they're big Michael Sheen fans.

01:19:03.620 Could be, yeah.

01:19:04.180 Yeah, we've got MS, MS, MS, MS, back here, MS.

01:19:10.700 Could it be that, very similar to MS-13 in El Salvador itself,

01:19:16.660 they tattoo all over their own bodies saying,

01:19:19.960 I am a violent rapist and criminal who is a member of the gang MS-13.

01:19:24.600 Might that have something to do with why it's so easy to identify them

01:19:28.140 and why the liberal media is so eager to convince everybody that tattoos have nothing to do with it.

01:19:36.920 Because it's kind of a hole-in-one, isn't it, when you look at a guy who's got MS tattooed on him.

01:19:42.100 Well, maybe they're right.

01:19:42.980 I mean, my great-aunt Nora had a massive MS tattoo all across her back.

01:19:47.760 So, you know, maybe it's got nothing to do with being in the gang.

01:19:50.160 It's just, you know, something that people do.

01:19:52.060 Maybe. Maybe it's just shits and giggles.

01:19:54.580 After all, remember, because a lot of these kinds of opinion piece articles by Michelle Goldberg

01:20:00.340 in the New York Times is trying to convince everybody that all of these tattoos,

01:20:04.320 they're just related to families.

01:20:05.840 Like, one of these people, this gay tattoo artist from Venezuela,

01:20:10.640 he just happened to be covered in tattoos that seem to be familiar with Trendy Aragua members

01:20:16.440 because it's all about family.

01:20:18.720 All of the tattoos are supposed to be sentimental family tattoos.

01:20:22.340 And they point out in here, around 90% of the migrants sent to Seacott

01:20:26.200 have no criminal records aside from immigration or traffic violation.

01:20:30.840 That's because they killed the police every time they went near them.

01:20:33.860 Yeah, that just means they've not been caught yet.

01:20:36.720 But again, eh, Orms, I ain't got no criminal record, eh?

01:20:41.060 Eh? I don't care.

01:20:42.780 You've got tattooed on your body that you are a gang member.

01:20:46.240 Get the hell out of America.

01:20:49.680 And, yeah, so hopefully Donald Trump can stay the course

01:20:54.000 and exert strength, power, willpower to be able to carry on deporting these people

01:21:00.020 because I think it's still in the numbers of between 200 to 300

01:21:03.040 who have been deported right now.

01:21:04.900 When you have violent criminals like this in your country,

01:21:08.240 it needs to be in the realm of 20,000 to 30,000.

01:21:12.420 I like this bit of the judge stuff because once they've gone to El Salvador,

01:21:15.900 there is literally nothing the U.S. judge can do about it,

01:21:18.960 apart from possibly convince the U.S. to invade El Salvador in order to get them back.

01:21:25.540 Because El Salvador doesn't give these people back once they've come in.

01:21:28.340 No, there have been reports of Seacott, to be fair to what the liberals are saying,

01:21:33.720 does seem to be a pretty brutal prison.

01:21:35.940 But you need to be brutal to violent gang members who were terrorising your country.

01:21:41.440 They don't deserve your sympathy.

01:21:43.920 It's not justice.

01:21:45.400 You say it's brutal.

01:21:46.060 A couple of hundred years ago, these men would have been hung or shot or boiled.

01:21:50.680 One step at a time, Dan.

01:21:52.160 One step at a time.

01:21:53.440 This is not brutal.

01:21:54.380 This is...

01:21:55.080 This is lenient.

01:21:56.700 Yes.

01:21:57.080 This is far too lenient for the likely crimes that these men have committed.

01:22:00.620 They are getting off easy.

01:22:02.920 Yeah, so that's why the judicial system in America is broken.

01:22:06.760 I will read through the rumble rants and then we can go through the video comments if we have any.

01:22:10.500 So A. Miller says,

01:22:12.100 Let's beat the left by using their words.

01:22:13.900 By using their words, you are more easily influenced by them

01:22:16.980 as you won't automatically recognise it as leftist wokery.

01:22:19.840 I think that's related to you.

01:22:21.140 Yeah, I mean, I just don't agree.

01:22:24.080 I mean, I think that we need to be owning these concepts that are actually quite useful for us to use.

01:22:28.560 Like, you know, lived reality was the one that you cited before.

01:22:31.760 And that's actually an extremely useful tool rhetorically to throw at people because it's quite convincing.

01:22:37.780 And, you know, that's why the left have used it.

01:22:40.120 And this is the point.

01:22:41.140 Like, we need to be learning from those who have been effective in the political arena.

01:22:44.840 And the left have been supremely effective over the last 50 years.

01:22:47.720 And whilst I agree that we need to have our own kind of political lexicon,

01:22:52.200 at the same time, what's lost for using terms that are effective?

01:22:55.660 And actually, I think, you know, they have stolen so much rhetorical ground from us.

01:22:59.720 They've taken so many ideas and words and all the rest of it.

01:23:02.600 I mean, even the concept of Britain and Britishness,

01:23:05.620 that's now a left-wing concept because it is defined as values and all the rest of it.

01:23:09.140 Why should we surrender these things to them?

01:23:11.100 I think it's just, it speaks to a weakness, not wanting to, you know, to take back what's ours.

01:23:16.880 Josie Angels says,

01:23:18.640 Fed judges are funded by Congress, so that's on Johnson.

01:23:21.140 Remember, Trump is stress-testing systems, and now Jay Roberts has shown his true colours.

01:23:26.200 Interesting.

01:23:27.080 And hedonism, when every action the executive takes can be stopped and even altered by the judiciary,

01:23:31.820 there is no longer a co-equal executive.

01:23:34.060 Rather, the unelected judiciary has usurped the legislative and executive.

01:23:38.460 I think that's correct, and it's to the point that Dan was making.

01:23:41.920 Logan, is it too much to ask for that the much-needed reforms be allowed?

01:23:46.780 We don't want to become the Balkans in my lifetime.

01:23:50.420 Better get used to the Balkans, you're living in it.

01:23:52.220 Yeah, Sigilstone has sent two in, so I'll read both out.

01:23:55.060 American judges have decided to become a nightmarish combination of Brazilian judicial tyrants

01:23:59.380 and British local councils, and a former judge and his wife just got arrested for harbouring illegals.

01:24:04.900 Well, imagine my shock.

01:24:06.440 In a world where we need Judge Dredd, instead we got a Justice Department full of Judge Doom,

01:24:11.240 the little evil cartoon from Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

01:24:14.920 Josie again says,

01:24:16.080 Also, his latest executive order has ended a policy that precludes institutions from having standards

01:24:20.160 if those standards cause harm.

01:24:21.980 This hobble had a huge impact under the surface.

01:24:24.440 Well, hopefully something good comes from that.

01:24:26.960 And hedonism replaced democracy with bureaucracy,

01:24:29.480 and all the leftist statements suddenly become perfectly coherent.

01:24:32.420 No longer are their democracy statements completely incoherent and often self-contradictory.

01:24:38.600 Yes, do we have any video comments, Samson?

01:24:45.180 Drumroll, please.

01:24:46.420 Oh, mm-hmm.

01:24:47.900 I have no idea what he just said.

01:24:48.900 Did he say something?

01:24:49.560 I think he mumbled into the microphone.

01:24:51.280 Right, okay.

01:24:51.640 That's what I got from it.

01:24:52.540 I'm going to presume that there were no video comments, so...

01:24:55.260 Oh, no, there are, there are.

01:24:56.580 Okay.

01:24:59.080 Ever the professionals.

01:25:00.960 Didn't we get this yesterday, or is it a new one?

01:25:05.460 Hello again.

01:25:06.220 I hope the podcast wasn't too black-pilled today.

01:25:10.220 When I am complete, the Megnomancer is going to try to sell kits of me

01:25:14.220 and send Lotus Eaters a fully.

01:25:16.880 Assembled one as a gift.

01:25:18.860 Wouldn't an AI co-host be fun?

01:25:21.060 Visit NymacWorks on YouTube for redneck cyberpunk fun.

01:25:27.120 That is very clever.

01:25:28.440 Yeah.

01:25:30.740 We look forward to when you're done.

01:25:33.560 So I just wanted to share my art journey because it's Friday and it's wholesome,

01:25:37.800 and I made my first light study in digital painting, and look at this.

01:25:42.900 This is amazing.

01:25:44.060 I can't believe I actually made this.

01:25:45.580 This is great.

01:25:47.680 I am really proud of myself.

01:25:49.580 This is the second one I'm working on at the moment, and it's not coming together at all,

01:25:55.900 but I think I'll finish it, and then I'll try to redo it in a year

01:25:59.360 and see how much better I have become.

01:26:02.000 It's from a good game.

01:26:03.580 It is an excellent game.

01:26:05.240 Yeah, keep at it.

01:26:06.180 It's all about practice.

01:26:07.240 Hopefully, yeah.

01:26:07.800 It didn't look.

01:26:33.400 There we go.

01:26:33.860 Salutes.

01:26:34.160 For those who were just listening, there was a moment of silence for Anzac Day.

01:26:37.760 Why?

01:26:40.960 Are you crazy?

01:26:41.900 You're fucking fine, man.

01:26:43.240 You are fucking, you are fucking.

01:26:44.140 You fucking, fucking you, bloody.

01:26:45.520 You bloody.

01:26:45.980 Fuck you, bloody.

01:26:47.180 Bastard, bitch.

01:26:47.880 You bloody.

01:26:48.840 Fuck you, bloody.

01:26:50.420 Fucking mother, bloody.

01:26:51.540 Fuck bitch.

01:26:52.520 Wait, you, what?

01:26:53.260 Fuck you, you.

01:26:54.240 Fucking bloody bastard.

01:26:55.760 You.

01:26:55.960 Benchute, bloody.

01:26:57.700 Benchute, you.

01:26:58.380 You, bloody.

01:26:59.360 No, but why?

01:27:00.700 Bloody, no.

01:27:02.460 Bloody, fucking.

01:27:03.580 Accident, then what you wanna do?

01:27:04.860 Why you fuck me?

01:27:05.480 i fucked you bloody bloody bastard i was waiting for somebody to make i was saying i was saying

01:27:13.240 this to you this morning harry wasn't i that when when it was you know the us going to nuclear war

01:27:17.720 with russia i was like i i felt deeply that that is something that must not happen but now we've

01:27:22.820 got india and pakistan on the verge of going into nuclear war i'm just thinking well you know you

01:27:27.860 you guys are gonna do what you're gonna do i mean the thing is i mean the serious points we made on

01:27:31.320 that is that it would lead to bloodshed on the streets of britain because we have large communities

01:27:35.840 of those people here where and who i don't know also just to say just cause two awesome game yeah

01:27:44.440 i remember playing that back in the day fantastic time and it's about two indian guys uh no but in

01:27:51.300 that context it was okay it's mainly about grapple hooking onto exploding things and just destroying

01:27:57.160 explosions great with some of the most accidentally racist um uh asian accents you'll ever hear in a

01:28:05.180 game it's fantastic all right let's hear this one this is from the uh phalagam area and as you can

01:28:11.880 see it is gorgeous little knowing that high in the snow-capped mountains to the north the spark was

01:28:18.220 soon to be lit that would set calabar ablaze here was the famous kyber pass the gateway to india

01:28:25.500 this was a vital key point guarded night and day by a detachment of the celebrated highland regiment

01:28:30.940 the third foot and mouth fearless fighting man aptly referred to by the natives as the devils in skirts

01:28:37.800 there are those high tea menus talking about them yeah him in particular yeah proper

01:28:44.820 and yeah sorry just carrying on from the last video we want people to be pro-social we want them to

01:28:53.660 come forward if there's a crime for the worst kind of offenses and drug offenses or something like

01:29:00.080 that i think they do and they try to but then you do get some people that kind of take it to the

01:29:05.300 extremes and that is also resources and money there's just no real easy way i think to handle crime

01:29:12.480 well i think the loss the loss of faith in the police is uh is a big reason people don't tend

01:29:19.460 to go forward and also just the complete uselessness of the police exactly yeah that's what i mean yeah

01:29:23.820 and somebody online says uh why would you have to buy a whole business to launder the money

01:29:29.440 just say that you've been doing freelance work as a furry fetish artist those guys are loaded i

01:29:35.080 what are you talking about hey dan don't be pretending like you don't know it's your generation that

01:29:42.760 started all this i don't remember this part of fantasia no what do i i like it though i've heard about

01:29:51.420 this online have we got any more is that it samson oh we've got more sorry what do you mean my

01:30:02.660 generation in 1940s cartoon what are you talking well you're old aren't you you're not that old i am

01:30:08.680 40 not you've got you've got gray in your hair you're pretty old to me continuous one-shot camera

01:30:16.260 work in adolescence a is hardly immersive

01:30:21.960 and b feels more like a means of justifying extra filler and padding in what is a generally

01:30:35.540 highly contrived poorly written and rather rushed story

01:30:42.080 yeah those criticisms actually line up with the er who put out a video on adolescence i think last

01:30:50.300 week that i watched where he was complaining that the camera work is kind of trying to show off just

01:30:54.760 for the sake of showing off and be technically impressive when in fact it means that most of the

01:30:58.880 shots are very poorly composed and half of the show is you following behind people as they travel

01:31:04.940 from one location to the other so they can maintain the one shot so it's completely filler and makes the

01:31:10.720 uh that makes the camera work very unsatisfying i'm not surprised to hear that even if people

01:31:15.340 were going on about how oh it's all done in one shot isn't that impressive no not if it not if it

01:31:19.700 doesn't actually add anything i haven't watched it i haven't skitterhund in the chat no i am i am a

01:31:25.020 gen x not a millennial don't don't sully me with that yeah anyway that's all we've got time for so

01:31:30.200 no comments uh well it's we've got zoom call in half an hour mate so we need to get get going

01:31:35.360 so uh i like the comments oh well you'll have to like them next week thanks very much for watching

01:31:40.880 thank you very much for joining us charlie where's a pleasure find you uh you can find me at cfdowns

01:31:45.340 underscore on all social media platforms and you can also read my work at the mail and also on my

01:31:50.160 website cfdowns.uk wonderful well check charlie out where you can find him and we'll be back in well

01:31:56.460 dan and sellios will be back in half an hour for the gold tier zoom call so gold members tune in for

01:32:00.540 that thank you very much for watching have a great weekend everyone

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 25, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1151

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