The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1155

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus eaters if i can get that

00:00:04.460 right for thursday the 1st of may 2025 i am joined by josh and harrison pitt thanks for coming in

00:00:09.360 and today we're going to be talking about how um the public in britain is not happy at all

00:00:16.660 uh how the dark lord tony blair is clearly in command of everything that's happening

00:00:21.300 and how sadiq khan isn't an englishman it's a day ending in y i woke up this morning sadiq khan was

00:00:27.320 on my twitter feed so day ruined uh i was like right okay i know what i'm talking about in the

00:00:31.720 podcast today you're an english city anyway you have continuity between these as well yeah there

00:00:38.920 is yeah there is uh anyway after the podcast of course is calvin's common sense crusade so do

00:00:43.580 tune into logacies.com for that and so let's begin so i saw this video going around this morning and

00:00:51.420 i'm sure it's just a meme video i can get it to play and play there we go all right

00:00:57.180 as you can see a chap with a british flag replying to rupert lowe mp well the only way to do it is

00:01:04.240 that is army send for them the military police france should do the same such blah blah blah blah

00:01:10.320 all caps now i'm sure this is a meme i'm sure this isn't a real thing but um but i think it does

00:01:15.980 capture a very present spirit in the country at the moment and that is everyone is furious

00:01:23.280 everything's crap everything's falling apart and people have decided that democracy just isn't that

00:01:29.180 big a deal anymore and they would rather get the problem solved have you encountered any uh

00:01:34.340 real life examples of this perhaps yeah i mean i wouldn't want to like out people don't have to

00:01:39.280 name names publicly but certainly there's a there's a there's a weariness and frustration and and um

00:01:45.120 righteous indignation growing in the in the public at large i think but i think a particular

00:01:49.900 cause of this isn't just the the the the daily cap the weekly casualties of diversity that

00:01:55.840 anyone who's genuinely interested in what's going on in our country can find in the news but just

00:01:59.960 the palpable sense of decline and also the the fact that what distinguishes the boris way from

00:02:05.860 previous migration flows into this country immigration being the main main cause of people's

00:02:10.160 concerns of course is that it is just so visible on the streets of this country and the consequences

00:02:14.860 of their being here is so visible and so what were once kind of you know very familiar homely

00:02:20.320 hamlets and towns are now just sort of saddled with these people i saw one the other day just five

00:02:24.720 five miles away from windsor which is a beautiful city about 20 miles west of london um there was just

00:02:31.700 this like somali chaps seemingly just causing a nuisance on a lovely village road and people people see

00:02:39.640 this tangibly in their in their lives and and and they think we're supposed to live in a democracy

00:02:44.100 you would you would imagine that given that one of the words in democracy is demos the demos would

00:02:48.900 be able to exercise some control control over who the demos was i mean that is arguably the most

00:02:53.600 fundamental principle of self-determination if you can be involuntary if you if if freedom of

00:02:58.000 association allows freedom of association is violated to such an extent that the people don't

00:03:04.300 people the demos doesn't exercise control over what the demos is then in in no way can that be

00:03:10.400 described as a as a as a democratic country upholding the principle of popular sovereignty

00:03:14.400 and so people just sense that we're a democracy in name only and if we're pretending to be a democracy

00:03:19.480 and get and getting nothing for it for not being a democracy it's worse than getting nothing for

00:03:23.960 getting getting actively replaced for it we may as well just you know be more open and go and go for

00:03:29.260 something uh much more like a military strongman i'm not saying that i would support that but i do

00:03:34.300 understand why people feel a need for there to be a more a stronger sense of identity between ruler and rule

00:03:40.020 and often in the past one man embodying the will of the people rather than these kind of oligarchic

00:03:44.780 processes manipulating the will of the people strike people as more attractive there there is

00:03:48.960 definitely a sense of that i've actually found that there's not a single person in my life anymore

00:03:53.500 that is unwilling to talk about the negative effects of mass migration which is a massive

00:03:57.880 change from just five years ago and um i don't think it's that everyone who objects to my political

00:04:05.240 opinions has you know disappeared from my life quite the opposite actually everyone's been quite

00:04:09.400 supportive and i'm friends with quite a few left-wing people you're right all along josh

00:04:13.120 is what they're saying yeah there is there is an element of that going on and it i think people

00:04:19.000 are far less afraid now that they see the existential threat to their civilization more or less not to

00:04:26.100 sort of amp up the the threat of it but i think that that is how people are perceiving it and i think

00:04:32.640 that people's quality of life has tangibly gone down the the things that people are hearing are going on in

00:04:38.740 our country are quite frankly horror stories compared to what we're used to 150 stabbings a day

00:04:44.800 yeah well one stabbing in the country would have been national use for weeks before mass migration and

00:04:51.400 so people don't forget that sort of thing when it comes to their personal safety and their quality of

00:04:57.260 life i think actually you've got to give the public a lot more credit for these sorts of things i know

00:05:02.300 people can be quite inattentive and it can be quite frustrating when you're following politics that

00:05:06.420 people aren't necessarily aware but they are aware of this sort of thing because it's of interest to

00:05:11.620 everyone and i think that this is what is shifting the um the public towards being more accepting of

00:05:17.800 these sorts of things and i don't pretend that my my circle in my life is representative of greater

00:05:23.560 whole but i do think that there is a general trend of people more willing to talk about these things and

00:05:28.180 we see it um in the media discourse don't we that now when people bring up mass migration no one's

00:05:34.200 saying that's racist you can't talk about that that that that era is interesting almost over isn't

00:05:38.760 yeah everyone's sort of conceding that okay this is legitimate to debate now there is

00:05:43.400 a problem here that is legitimate and people are justified in in some cases in talking about it

00:05:50.400 yeah no i think you're on something here because i i i was thinking about this the other day because i

00:05:54.340 saw someone on twitter call me a racist and i was like wow it's been a long time very quaint

00:05:59.160 yeah well exactly it's like it's been a long time since i've been accused of being a racist

00:06:03.400 and it was it was a totally you know minor comment and nobody cares and it was just like

00:06:08.360 it's also one of the things that makes it especially frustrating that at the very same time when the

00:06:13.280 left's um uh already very blunt rhetorical tools are becoming blunter still through overuse

00:06:20.280 and have become blunt through overuse over the last 20 years they've become floppy yeah and i think

00:06:24.920 badges of honor even in some cases it's it's it makes it very very frustrating that rather than

00:06:30.280 uh realizing the opportunity that this presents to do things that would have been unimaginable 20

00:06:35.600 years ago like what makes it even more frustrating the fact that reform and farage in particular have

00:06:40.180 been tacking to the center because public opinion isn't just this fixed thing it's something that

00:06:44.440 you can help to mold and to reshape not by being machiavellian but by just being honest about

00:06:48.820 what's going on what's going on doing the right in the country and you can win people over and

00:06:52.580 people have never been people's uh sentiments and their intuitions and their votes have never been

00:06:57.540 more up for grabs and and you should be leaning into that rather than yeah it's a pattering around

00:07:03.460 it's strange how farage is desperate to be behind the curve of the wave and so but the thing is the

00:07:07.740 polling is all in like we know how the british public feels about the current state of affairs

00:07:12.320 even liberal democrat voters would like you know i saw a poll the other day 52 percent of liberal

00:07:17.620 democrat voters just want every legal deported that's liberal democrats you know more labor

00:07:22.020 obviously almost every conservative reform in 1990 yeah yeah yeah and something like 75 percent

00:07:27.080 of labor and it's like look there's just no one on the other side of this you you you know you can't

00:07:30.960 drop the ball by saying i'm going to deport the illegals and what did farage do on the winston

00:07:35.140 marshall podcast no oh was it it was with edgington yes well it's not no i just don't want my name

00:07:40.560 attached it's impossible it's impossible it's like so what are you talking about you know it's it's the

00:07:45.400 most salient political issue right now and everyone's in favor of it another quick detail i put in is that

00:07:50.820 what's especially remarkable as well is the extent to which public opinion is radicalizing at a time

00:07:55.700 when god bless the british public they don't actually know a huge amount about the details

00:07:59.140 no idea so for example they have the right intuitions and the right sense of what's going on

00:08:04.200 so that that i don't begrudge them that um but when you ask british people the average british the

00:08:09.700 median british voter like what do you think net immigration is right 70 000 i think it's 70 000

00:08:13.360 it's crazy to a million so think how much more well yeah it might be over a million we don't know

00:08:18.500 indeed but just taking the figures it's at least a million probably and and so think how much more

00:08:24.000 radical they'd be think how think how think how more aggressive still that tweet would be if he

00:08:28.700 actually knew anything in bold wouldn't he add something a little bit uh controversial here i think

00:08:34.940 that black lives matter has done more for britain than nigel farage has and i'm saying that in the

00:08:40.560 sense of black lives matter was absolutely perfect to get us in the position that we're in because not

00:08:46.140 only was it an incredibly ineffectual movement in its its aims and a lot of the money was

00:08:51.600 provably siphoned off to people that were just out for enriching themselves absolutely no purchase in

00:08:56.800 britain as well exactly but not only that it made it acceptable to then start talking about identity

00:09:02.720 more because it was constantly under attack and there's this immune system reaction against that

00:09:08.320 whereby british people started to realize yes we do have an identity actually because i think people

00:09:14.440 sort of forgot or didn't think about it to the same degree that we do now and we've sort of opened

00:09:20.600 pandora's box and we can't put that back away again now this is going to be something that is going to

00:09:27.100 be a part of the public consciousness um for the rest of you know people's lifetimes i think and i think

00:09:33.260 that people's awareness okay we're not actually like these other groups of people that are coming to

00:09:38.200 our country that is a very invaluable um insight that is now circulating very widely amongst people

00:09:44.460 that quite frankly surprise me like people that i used to think of as very left-wing now just concede

00:09:50.220 this and say yeah of course this is the case we covered the politics joe podcast the other day we

00:09:55.340 did yeah they i don't know if you you saw it but uh basically i think i saw your clip of it yeah they

00:10:00.080 were talking about english identity for anyone who didn't see it and uh after the first sort of 15

00:10:04.320 minutes of them blustering as left-wingers they just conceded absolutely everything the whole

00:10:08.840 ground yeah no why where's our parliament where's our you know rights movements and stuff like that's

00:10:13.160 like yeah that's a great question isn't it also when you're living in a very settled mild-mannered

00:10:17.780 homogeneous england the question of identity doesn't thrust itself upon you any more than the

00:10:22.860 fact that a goldfish is swimming in water particularly matters to the goldfish it's when it's when you put

00:10:27.100 something new in that this is just a metaphor when you put something that's not water and thereby

00:10:31.640 corrupts it to some extent in the separate or separates it that is distinct add oil to the

00:10:36.600 water exactly and the goldfish will notice it and likewise take the goldfish out of the water and it

00:10:40.340 will also notice and so you're right the the question of identity is back on the table whether

00:10:44.480 we like it or not so one of the things that uh and this is another just amazing paradigm example that

00:10:51.520 i'm going to play for you in a second is uh labor going to people's doorsteps now i don't envy

00:10:57.660 labor party activists having to go to people's doorsteps hi guys can we count on your vote uh this

00:11:05.960 this is the kind of reaction uh oh i clicked on the wrong thing there uh this is the kind of reaction

00:11:11.180 that they've been giving and uh

00:11:13.620 hello there my name's john i'm calling from your local labor party that labor can fuck off

00:11:24.780 labor on it has fucked this country right up fuck off go on fuck off fucking labor all they've done

00:11:30.940 to this country all they're for is fucking muslims and all the shit that's all they want in this

00:11:34.760 country this country's fucked you're fucking love go on fuck off fucking labor scum

00:11:41.620 the ranting carries on it's just the clip and to be honest with you that would be exactly my

00:11:50.260 reaction but probably with more swearing and possibly slightly violent um i i would i would

00:11:55.740 have been exactly as angry as that guy and and this is this is a honestly i also love the look on the

00:12:02.740 the labor guy's faces i i get the sense that's not the first time that's happened to him that day

00:12:06.260 yeah yeah yeah yeah well this is another thing isn't it like uh when corbyn was in charge of the party

00:12:10.900 that they kept getting on the door i just hate jeremy corbyn i'm not going to do it because

00:12:15.660 jeremy corbyn obviously a traitor uh and so this this is basically what aaron bastani found when he

00:12:21.300 went to uh run corn because of course you got the by-election there today uh if you're there vote for

00:12:26.680 whatever you want i don't care just it doesn't matter to me um yeah like yeah not labor hopefully yeah

00:12:32.540 well yeah but who cares you know like voting will that make a difference um but uh but what's

00:12:39.100 interesting is aaron was going around and talking to regular people and none of them are happy right

00:12:45.440 even the people who were labor voters were not happy with keir starmer and with labor and with

00:12:51.420 what they've been doing i mean some quotes are labor are scrounging parasites uh i i don't like

00:12:57.420 starmer because he doesn't know what a woman is uh everyone he speaks to is furious about paying for

00:13:02.960 the illegals it's also something that comes up a lot worth adding that this by election is happening

00:13:07.720 because a labor mp punched one of the electorate so um not only is that uh bad press in that area

00:13:14.740 but also they elected a labor representative once and now they're coming out with a lot of this right

00:13:21.040 this is a new constituency that was created uh and so they elect a labor mp and then he punches some guy

00:13:27.020 for some reason uh but yeah so everyone repeatedly i mean one of the chaps he's speaking to is just

00:13:32.560 oh yeah everyone's everyone's talking about the illegals because aaron is doing a good job and is

00:13:36.400 gauging how often they bring up subjects and this one market uh trader he's talking to is just like

00:13:42.340 yeah no the everyone's talking about the illegals why are we paying for them in the hotels this is

00:13:46.060 outrageous i you know everyone is genuinely outraged i mean at one point at 715 he describes him as

00:13:50.920 bringing in a conquering army like william the conqueror uh take over england which is like right okay

00:13:55.860 now i'm not saying that's happening but if that's the general perception of what's happening

00:14:00.400 it's less honest than that really yeah it's even worse i mean the advantage of the formal declaration

00:14:06.180 of hostilities is that you can actually fight back oh yeah presumably with your own state on your side

00:14:10.340 yes um with military equipment and machinery whereas what we're what unarmed conquest is is much harder

00:14:16.760 to fight by virtue of the fact that there is no such formal declaration of hostility i've honestly said

00:14:21.200 this before i would rather it just be an open war then we can fight yeah then then the argument

00:14:25.820 makes itself exactly and when there's one thing we're good at it's organization um but yeah so

00:14:31.440 you got uh lots of people he managed to find one uh die-hard labor woman really uh yeah yeah he was

00:14:37.420 obviously there all day he found one die-hard labor woman who said quote nigel farage is a fascist

00:14:41.520 and we're a tolerant nation like i mean nigel farage is not a fascist also if we're a tolerant nation

00:14:48.220 why are they polling like 25 of the electorate yeah yeah and uh he he bumped into a chap he was like

00:14:54.160 no liberals labor tory reform they're all the same i hate them all uh and towards the end people

00:15:00.760 pointing out that immigration is the big issue that's affecting everyone and is everyone knows

00:15:04.960 it because like like you're saying they don't actually know the numbers but they're looking

00:15:08.600 at the street and saying where is this and they don't call it the boris wave but where is it i did

00:15:13.500 my swindon walking on swindon showing how it's the client video and i was speaking to a chap in the

00:15:17.220 who i've known for years now in the who runs a comic shop he was like yeah it seems just after covid

00:15:22.020 it's just gone wild it's like yeah that's exactly right he's seeing the effect of the boris wave

00:15:26.480 even though he doesn't follow politics is not interested in any way shape or form it's actually

00:15:30.020 very heartening that people are so accurate in their assessment of the situation because i found

00:15:36.380 previously i've caught myself being quite cynical about the electorate um for obvious reasons and

00:15:42.240 actually it seems like people are catching on now there's a real problem yeah they absolutely are

00:15:47.640 and so there's there's a sort of um i don't know who this chap is he's not he's not like a random

00:15:53.360 nobody he's got an account and stuff but um but he he i think represents a large swathe of working

00:16:01.220 class opinion in this country i think everyone's asking themselves the same fucking question at the

00:16:06.320 minute and it's very simple it's like when are we going to do something about it it being the

00:16:13.600 fucking government the state of the country all the shit that's going on like fucking mass

00:16:19.620 uncontrolled immigration tax to fucking death cost of living crisis i mean we're letting out in private

00:16:26.100 um companies to run riot taxes to death the water bills just fucking doubled again i mean everything

00:16:32.360 they fucking do is set up to keep you dumbed down um yeah i've had enough um yeah i had enough

00:16:40.420 during covid to be honest um once that's done let's all start fucking videoing ourselves all start

00:16:46.540 taking direct action pro well i'm not suggesting anyone takes direct action or anything but again

00:16:52.280 i think he represents a large swathe of this country uh again the working class area of the

00:16:58.420 country now if you're in the liberal democrat voting era you're you probably don't know many chaps

00:17:02.520 like this i've noticed a phenomenon whereby whenever i go for a lovely quaint village in rural

00:17:07.500 england there is always one or two lib dem signs i'm just like oh right so you're voting in favor

00:17:12.500 of something that you're almost entirely isolated from except it won't stay that way forever will

00:17:17.860 it if it helps a lib dem sign also means i'm a secret racist so uh that's true yeah as we saw from

00:17:24.280 ed davies and and keir starmer came out and said uh the same thing he endorsed that very same thing

00:17:30.220 so the centrist ads are actually secret racist they just need essentially social permission uh which is

00:17:36.300 what they're lacking at the moment but uh but anyway the the working class of this country are

00:17:40.200 absolutely sick of it and i completely agree with them and they they've arrived at a point where

00:17:44.360 there's just no light at the end of the tunnel and so they're like you know it is the government that

00:17:48.580 is the problem is the state and this is correct this is the krangocracy set up by tony blair with all

00:17:53.340 the various uh human rights legislation and echr and all this sort of nonsense it all it all is the

00:17:58.780 problem and again it's percolating completely through uh everything so i saw this uh really

00:18:05.620 superb thread of uh luke trill who works for the more uncommon foundation uh i think he's the founder

00:18:11.180 of it uh and he did focus groups in beverly hull scunthorpe and peterborough and without doubt the

00:18:16.640 disillusionment was the worst i've heard and just some of these quotes it's incredible this is i love

00:18:20.900 this gary sales manager in born right he says i've actually given up on the system if i'm being

00:18:25.540 totally open and honest with you yeah nothing ever changes uh you go from one bunch of lying

00:18:29.300 so-and-sos to the other it's almost going to sound really extreme but the country almost needs a coup

00:18:33.080 d'etat and needs someone to come in and say right this is what we're doing and you will conform

00:18:38.020 there's no proper leadership by anyone nobody likes any of the candidates nobody really trusts any of

00:18:42.660 them it's almost like we need the king to just say right i'm in charge and this is what we're doing

00:18:46.560 and that honestly is a conversation i've had with normal people at some point they've literally said to me

00:18:53.020 why isn't the king doing something about this and that's fascinating because for my entire life

00:18:57.240 the i i mean for you know since the world war ii the idea in fact since before that the monarch was

00:19:03.240 informally uh an apolitical role and so you'd think it'd be in everyone's minds that well the

00:19:09.100 king's just a symbolic thing he's not gonna do anything but no it's still in the back of the

00:19:12.960 minds of the hand we are a kingdom the king should be doing something because we're suffering

00:19:16.700 you know and it's very interesting that's still in the back of their minds and uh people have said to me

00:19:21.280 can the king is the king able to do anything he is able to do whatever he likes he's the king

00:19:25.260 actually uh he could dissolve parliament tomorrow and there's literally nothing parliament can do

00:19:29.540 about it things have dismissed ministers over like even since 1688 since we became a so-called

00:19:35.220 constitutional monarchy over things far less severe than this i mean i mean william pitt basically

00:19:40.080 stood down at george iii's urging in 1801 because william pitt wanted to extend toleration to catholics

00:19:46.220 in the kingdom and king george iii thought this was incompatible with his coronation oath

00:19:50.340 basically got rid of william i think william pitt the younger uh came back later but that that's

00:19:57.480 nothing compared to decades of sustained replacement migration i should have thought that the bare

00:20:03.960 minimum the king should do is look after and look out for the interests of his own people and their

00:20:07.940 future and their posterity you might think that but king charles uh was giving a nice salaam

00:20:13.600 alaykum during his eastern message yeah so it was very frustrating but yeah i was having this

00:20:18.620 conversation with just again non-political people who have suddenly turned to me and said so you know

00:20:23.140 about politics what's what's going on and um can the king do something yeah the king he he has the

00:20:29.100 control of the army they pledge their allegiance to him the parliament are his servants uh he could

00:20:34.900 at any point dissolve the parliament and moreover the parliament couldn't pull a cromwell in this day

00:20:41.300 and age there's no way in hell the parliament would be able to resist it in the slightest no one is

00:20:45.940 fighting for this parliament uh they would they would not be able to raise an army to resist him

00:20:50.280 so the king could just take over but of course charles is a woke globalist and he won't do anything

00:20:53.680 with the sort uh and so that was pretty frustrating this is why i think we need to work on prince george

00:20:58.940 uh i think william probably beyond saving at this what's william like i don't really know i get the

00:21:04.900 sense that he i get the centrist dad vibes from william um whereas i think george could be um you

00:21:10.060 know a radical zoomer of sorts of i was hoping william would be a bit more based i think we think it's

00:21:14.060 also quite canny in terms of optics he's sort of he's not fallen for the same mistakes that his

00:21:20.060 brother has let's just say this is true i think the interesting thing about this is that people

00:21:24.540 are at a point now where the government's authority is so illegitimate in their mind that they're

00:21:28.740 looking for other um forms of authority yeah in in the king and of course they're not going to find

00:21:34.780 it there but the fact that we've got to this point and it's commonplace enough that you can

00:21:39.280 encounter it in your daily life is something to take note of at the very least i mean people are

00:21:44.840 just openly saying this sort of stuff now like this five years ago even during covid like boris

00:21:51.720 johnson comes out right we're locking down the country folks you're all gonna stay in your houses

00:21:54.460 for two weeks or whatever it was no one was like okay yeah we kind of need to overthrow the government

00:21:58.680 you know everyone's like oh i guess we just got to go along with it then uh and five years later

00:22:03.760 nearly i know it's five years later um we're at the point where gary sales manager in born

00:22:09.260 is thinking yeah we do need a coup d'etat if only we had a new cromwell things might get better

00:22:14.800 which is again it's just bonkers when you think of the kind of normal people middle manager types

00:22:21.300 who i mean he works in an office all day gary you know gary you watch like you know like normie tv

00:22:27.800 watch x factor and stuff and he's like yeah we need a revolt yes and he's put his finger on one of

00:22:32.420 the major problems that all democracies face which is that um while the the rule the governing

00:22:37.720 principle of any democracy is that of popular sovereignty in practice um people the people

00:22:43.620 having been set free having been empowered theoretically by democracy they're actually

00:22:46.600 quite poor guardians god bless them again of the power that democracy theoretically confers on them

00:22:52.320 because many of them have neither the inclination or the interest to be as actively involved in politics

00:22:56.100 so there is always going to be a minority that's in charge and if that minority doesn't share

00:23:00.040 the basic the fundamental values and beliefs and interests of the people over whom it rules it will

00:23:04.600 not serve them but remold them and reshape them sometimes by actively sponsoring replacement migration

00:23:08.900 but in other but otherwise by just nudging them in certain ways trying to indoctrinate their children

00:23:12.500 trying to do all these sorts of things and another thing that makes this very difficult to fight is

00:23:16.220 because it's an oligarchy it's a small group of people power is dispersed in a way that makes it

00:23:20.640 very very difficult to fight and towards the end he's it's interesting that he's putting a personal face

00:23:25.640 on power and a singular personal face on power by saying we need the king to just say oh we need

00:23:30.220 um akutita where one person just comes in charge and says i'm going to do this because when you put

00:23:33.660 a face on authority it makes that person accountable in a way that a process or an or a shady oligarchic

00:23:39.520 class is not accountable and um in in many ways it's it's more consistent with the true spirit of

00:23:45.260 democracy because people would be much happier with a patriot king than they would then they would be

00:23:50.280 with a treacherous oligarchic class even though the processes would be less democratic the outcomes

00:23:55.080 would be more democratic and that that's the ideal and that's the ideal of something like

00:23:57.880 bolingbroke writes the lord bolingbroke wrote the idea of a patriot king which which advances this

00:24:03.260 critique of democracy in in very humane ways um but but another problem is that since the 1940s any

00:24:09.860 any desire for sort of concerted executive action of the kind that gary is calling for is just

00:24:14.800 equated with fascism yeah um which isn't true yeah and it would be completely outside of our tradition

00:24:20.460 anyway very outside very uncharacteristic of english people yeah yes that's gary is not calling for

00:24:25.660 fascism what gary is calling for is a cromwell uh and there there are lots and lots of cromwell edits

00:24:33.540 going around on tiktok at the moment um which i'm going to put

00:24:37.020 put your faith in god and keep your power dry i am resolved that this battle will be won therefore it is my

00:24:49.660 intention to return to cambridge and raise an army of antique men the light of which this nation has never

00:24:55.180 seen though we be outnumbered we shall win this battle i promise you the king is not england and

00:25:07.340 england is not the king

00:25:09.440 it's very interesting that they've got radiohead in the background there because um you know in 1997 i

00:25:18.800 think it was on the ascent of blair they released okay computer which is still one of the best

00:25:24.200 encapsulations of how the the modern world the sort of liberal world order um is soulless and crushing

00:25:32.300 and and miserable and even though tom york is very left-wing the lead singer and maybe some of the

00:25:38.420 members as well um a lot of what they're hitting on there is true and i think that they've chose that

00:25:43.560 in the background to encapsulate the mood of the country in a way very interesting and gary sales

00:25:48.400 manager from born is probably like yep i have to go and join the new new model army now uh to fight

00:25:53.740 parliament because uh they're the problem you know you may well be watching these cromwell edits

00:25:59.000 uh on tiktok you know who knows but i mean that was just my favorite one that i saw um but it's

00:26:05.840 genuinely something that's in the cultural milieu it's indicative of a cultural mood i would i'm i

00:26:10.980 i hope it's obvious to all people that we're not actually saying that this should be what happens

00:26:15.340 apart from anything else because if you are going to do something like this and again i'm not

00:26:18.220 recommending it then there's no room for half measures i mean as say benjamin franklin said you know

00:26:22.660 we should we must all hang together or we should all hang separately and then during the american

00:26:26.100 revolution you need you need to be very very committed to it and the fact is is that compared

00:26:30.860 to where britain was in the 1630s and 1640s and 1650s when the civil war was sort of we were in the

00:26:38.280 foothills of a civil war and then of course it blew up in 1642 um it was a very young population full of

00:26:44.360 very very very motivated people many of whom had been in battle before they were very hardened people

00:26:50.080 whereas we're a very domesticated population a much older population the idea that anything like

00:26:53.660 this would be practical i don't think it's possible it's not possible because you either need to go

00:26:57.580 the full hog or you don't don't do it at all but but on the plus side what i think this means

00:27:01.720 is that democratically the paradigm is ripe for change yes that's right so anyone who comes along who

00:27:07.340 is very clearly not part of the blairite consensus uh i think actually because i mean like as we saw in

00:27:12.820 the last election 40 percent of people don't even vote and i'm guessing i asked matt goodwin about this and he

00:27:17.560 was like well they don't really think the political system is serving their interest he is a pollster

00:27:20.920 so he would know and i was like yeah so why isn't nigel farage attacking towards them rather than

00:27:26.160 saying hey actually i am a blairite just like you it's like okay the the the the ground is incredibly

00:27:32.120 fertile but uh anyway we'll leave that there um that's a random name says uh something that wasn't

00:27:36.540 addressed at yesterday's round table for lack of time is how to reach the 40 percent who don't vote

00:27:39.620 um here's his suggestion run time in fact uh promise to lower taxes for natives uh zero percent

00:27:45.540 native married couples trying to start a family increase taxes for all foreigners you know i

00:27:49.660 don't think that sort of thing is going to be sort of thing that works um you would have to do it along

00:27:54.680 the lines of habit and let people fall into their choices by their habits uh you can justify it by

00:28:00.600 promising and tremble the fat off the government by nuking the nhs and sacrifice the sun god over

00:28:04.120 yeah no i don't actually think that'll work but um i appreciate the fact that we do need to reach

00:28:09.200 that 40 percent though anyway let's move on but it got a better chance of uh convincing the english

00:28:13.400 people that we need to nuke the sun in order to fund the nhs we need to nuke the nhs in order to

00:28:17.580 well they literally did say that we're going to dim the sky yeah save the planet yeah i do appreciate

00:28:22.520 your hatred of the nhs i too despise that socialist institution i like the idea of an nhs if it was a

00:28:28.400 national health service and if it worked yeah well it did it used to work though yeah again you guys

00:28:33.080 too young to remember right but back in the 90s you just get an appointment like that it was no problem

00:28:39.120 at all everything actually worked because we didn't have 15 million extra foreigners leeching

00:28:44.040 off the state anyway let's move on the dark lord has spoken and everyone will do well to listen

00:28:50.800 because he knows the future and how does he know this well because he tells people how to make it

00:28:57.080 and uh it's worth mentioning that the current incumbent labor party are not very popular and uh

00:29:03.600 oh jesus here we go um both ed davey and nigel farage more favorable than keir starmer which you

00:29:11.080 know a lib dem topping the incumbent prime minister is normally quite embarrassing i think the last time

00:29:17.140 that happened may have been maybe nick clegg he was quite popular wasn't he before uh he so can we go

00:29:24.140 back to that of course a second because this is actually a fascinating graph um because it's usual to

00:29:30.240 have an unfavorable net rating um and i suspect that in nigel farage's case the unfavorable isn't

00:29:37.200 just i a general sort of i don't like him it's going to be i really hate him because he's a

00:29:41.560 polarizing figure uh with ed davey i imagine people are a lot softer on it so yeah he just seems rubbish

00:29:45.880 but i think keir starmer having 52 and from what we've seen about people saying on the doorsteps and

00:29:51.100 things like this i think there's a genuine hatred of starmer that's the lowest net favorability there

00:29:55.800 isn't it other than rachel reeves which you know is is his net favorability by extension so yeah

00:30:02.900 she's tied directly to him but it's actually remarkable how unpopular keir starmer is but again

00:30:09.460 nigel farage being the most popular is not very popular either that's true and um there are some other

00:30:15.500 um sort of numbers here where the labor party are polling beneath the lib dems the green party

00:30:22.040 and reform in terms of popularity and they're the most unfavorable and they have

00:30:28.020 the the lowest amount of net favorability nice to see the conservatives right at the bottom there

00:30:33.920 and everyone hates the establishment down there and you i'd argue as well that the the green party

00:30:37.500 and the liberal democrats being included is somewhat distorting the real picture because i would just

00:30:41.920 imagine that they're not sufficiently salient as parties to arouse strong feelings from anyone

00:30:46.620 i think that big gap in the middle is don't know right yeah it's also interesting as well that

00:30:52.280 there's not that much difference in terms of favorability between the parties either

00:30:56.420 because there's not much difference ideologically i imagine too so one thing that has changed in terms of

00:31:04.520 popularity is that of tony blair the dark lord himself here he is amongst millennials he is number one

00:31:12.540 amongst labor politicians which is very interesting 44 popularity and we have to scroll all the way down

00:31:20.380 where is keir starmer where is he there he is at 17th um 22 there are some names here that most people

00:31:29.760 won't even be familiar with even if you follow politics quite closely um that are above him neil kinnock

00:31:35.800 they're gonna say it's above keir starmer which um is emily thornbury i know it's john prescott isn't

00:31:42.740 even alive and he's more popular than keir starmer which is interesting in the face so that was that's

00:31:47.960 true he's actually amongst men john prescott was the most popular yeah yeah and his polling went up

00:31:53.320 after he punched that guy in the face this is among all millennials um i think this is labor

00:31:58.100 supporting yeah no this is this is millennials yes um this is just millennials more generally not

00:32:02.600 necessarily labor supporters but this is crazy because tony blair is the architect of all of

00:32:06.560 these woes he is the the one man that we can lay all of these problems at the feet but one thing you

00:32:12.320 can say about tony blair that um sets him apart from the rest is that he's a very canny operator he is

00:32:18.640 he he has uh insights into pr in politics that i think many of them do not have and i think that

00:32:26.560 that's why he has the global power that he does have you know his institute for global change

00:32:32.580 consults 40 different countries around the world i think it employs more staff than our own

00:32:36.960 parliament and so in in some ways you could argue that he's actually more powerful than our own

00:32:42.120 government apparently his day his daily um workload is still it's still very much structured like that

00:32:47.800 of a prime minister he's given a sort of a briefcase in the morning full of the requisite papers that he

00:32:52.380 that people think he needs to read i'll bet you anything that he is one of the most diligent readers

00:32:57.180 of someone like matt goodwin substack because i i imagine that he is driven by a genuine interest to try

00:33:02.300 and understand national populism i'm sure he's very read up on all of that literature not not so that

00:33:06.420 he can be the voice for it but so he can buy strategies for for combating it um so yes you're

00:33:14.000 right he's a very sort of canny operator and i i would even go so far as to argue that he might

00:33:18.680 actually be one of the more competent politicians around in in modern britain at least from the current

00:33:23.980 crop and that's not to say that i agree yeah the rest of them are useless i i have had these

00:33:30.460 discussions and it has been pointed out to me that he was the sort of the last perceived competent

00:33:36.160 prime minister who existed in the pre-internet age so to speak and so he didn't have the same level of

00:33:42.000 scrutiny that some others might have but i think the perception still stands regardless of that fact

00:33:47.140 and um here he is more generally i don't know what's going on there um so for some reason david

00:33:54.460 blanket is number one this is just all adults um so john prescott's still more popular but he's fifth

00:34:00.400 which is significant i think because he did bring us into a you know look at generation of course um

00:34:08.240 he brown tony blair bloody hell yeah these are just the labor can we see the boomers as well please

00:34:13.240 yes we can see the boomers the boomers this is a redeemable fact for the boomers

00:34:19.360 blair is not very popular amongst the boomers he's clearly which is interesting actually yeah

00:34:25.180 19 well they presumably they that i mean they lived through yeah they they used to live in a nice

00:34:30.600 country yes yes indeed um so they've experienced mass immigration and of course i would imagine that

00:34:35.300 the iraq war looms larger in the minds of boomers and gen x's i was just about to bring that up yes

00:34:41.320 in the minds of millennials and zoomers for whom it's just it's just a bit of history i'm not i'm not

00:34:46.340 even sure if it's that big a deal to them i think i really think it's what he's done to the country

00:34:50.520 but they but i would would you not say that because i i agree but when i when people say blair i i

00:34:56.600 immediately think of the iraq war that is that is a fair thing but whenever you talk to a boomer about

00:35:03.620 blair they say he ruined this country that's the thing they their their their view has always been to

00:35:09.440 me they've he ruined this country yeah well he's not done yet because uh of course he's not of course

00:35:16.060 his influence there's still something of britain left i can smash down his links to keir starmer are

00:35:20.900 quite um strong actually and um here's a headline uh when was it from march 2024 starmer talking to

00:35:28.540 blair a lot about how um to prepare for power this is of course before his uh sent to the prime

00:35:34.240 ministerial office and i think that some of the lessons keir starmer has learned from blair he's not

00:35:39.880 quite um imbibed all of them but he made a lot of mistakes initially but i think blair basically rang

00:35:44.980 him up and said stop this i think that that is what's going on because starmer has been more astute

00:35:50.700 in recent times i think starmer is the direct heir to blair's project consciously so so it's

00:35:55.580 yeah and um here's another one as well tony blair keeps texting keir starmer advice as he moves into

00:36:01.320 downing street uh this was from july of 2024 and so it's proof that this relationship has um began

00:36:07.940 before he um reached power and has continued into it and i think that um starmer might have realized

00:36:15.240 because starmer did scorn blair on a few things didn't he and those things have since changed which

00:36:22.220 i find interesting i did amusing to reflect that there probably is a whatsapp chat somewhere in

00:36:27.180 which starmer isn't even dignified with the status of admin

00:36:29.900 i would not be surprised yeah things i i always thought that blair must have been raging after

00:36:37.680 his southport response that's my view yes because to come out and attack people was just the i mean

00:36:43.400 this this this has definitely killed starmer's reputation forever one thing that um blair did

00:36:48.900 very well is he would say i understand your concerns um but i i disagree about how to deal with it

00:36:55.200 and he could frame it as listen i i he sort of takes all the all of the steam out of a lot of

00:37:01.820 political agitation by doing that and it's a rhetorical trick that starmer has not done and i

00:37:08.680 was actually very surprised when starmer was releasing those statements that someone hadn't

00:37:12.920 said that sort of thing to him because even to someone who's not politically savvy it seemed pretty

00:37:18.080 tone deaf to the mood of the country it was we were talking about 20 years in which we've had to

00:37:23.340 contend with countless imported horrors from endemic knife crime islamist intimidation even terrorism

00:37:28.980 but increasingly islamist intimidation sectarian infighting industrial rape gangs and then people's

00:37:36.660 impatience uh people's uh sensibilities hit a fever pitch after the three girls are slaughtered by a

00:37:43.340 savage in southport and yet all he can do is admonish us you're far right i'm giving 30 million to the

00:37:48.960 masks yeah it just it was just completely clothed so even the guardian here um in september of 2023

00:37:56.620 acknowledged that starmer had been borrowing from tony blair and um you know the guardian i think

00:38:02.420 generally supportive of starmer if not sometimes critical from a left-wing perspective in that he's

00:38:07.500 not going far enough but it's very interesting that even they're making this link which um even for

00:38:12.900 their own ends might not be helpful and um i think it's an acknowledgement acknowledgement of a real

00:38:19.140 political reality and what they're talking about here um the byline i found was the most interesting

00:38:25.020 part of the article actually is one thing they share is the belief that the purpose of politics is to make

00:38:29.360 things happen and you only get to do that by winning power which is a very real critique statement

00:38:36.500 very true but i'm not sure i agree that starmer is of is of that view i think he sees himself as more

00:38:41.900 of a manager of what has already happened namely what blair has done i mean i don't think he had i

00:38:48.020 don't think he views i don't think he views anything that he i don't think he views any position i'm

00:38:53.380 talking about starmer any position that he might hold as being uh capable of being given any legitimacy

00:38:58.800 outside of the framework that blair left in place he seems to see himself as a complete creature of

00:39:03.200 process and i think we really got a sense of this recently when that recent supreme court decision

00:39:07.420 was laid down because he because he said i'm so glad that the supreme court has clarified this

00:39:12.900 issue for us it's like well hold on like as if we've all been sort of clam clambering in the dark

00:39:17.240 for 2 000 years about the definition of a woman but it's it's interesting because think about what

00:39:21.460 happened there you're talking about a blairite institution the supreme court interpreting a blairite

00:39:26.180 piece of legislation namely the equality act in order to arrive at the conclusion inscribed in law

00:39:31.380 remember he's a human rights lawyer that the terms woman and sex have their natural meanings in in

00:39:37.220 said equality and it's only then that he treats the supreme court as a kind of oracle of delphi

00:39:42.200 yeah that gives him the right to admit what the rest of us know to be true simply by using

00:39:46.280 our eyes and and reasoning uh correctly he views the only source of legitimacy in modern politics as

00:39:51.940 being what blair has already made happen it's not he that he's in favor of making things happen

00:39:55.840 himself it's worth remembering as well that he did say that a non-zero percentage of women have a penis

00:39:59.900 yes yes which is honestly again one of the things that people have just been like oh right but just

00:40:05.320 a quick comment on this image this image is a fascinating image to me look at the expression

00:40:09.260 on blair's face the pose look at the supplicant position and optimistic hopeful look on kirsten's

00:40:16.460 face he is offering him something eyebrows raised looking up to blair saying do you agree with this thing

00:40:23.040 i'm saying and tony blair is looking at him like a sith lord looking his apprentice like no that's very much

00:40:29.020 the dynamic that's going on isn't it right like guarded with the hands disdainful downward look

00:40:35.300 he just needs the hood yeah he's no you listen my young apprentice you're still not ready it really

00:40:40.580 is sarah man and worm tongue isn't it but no it's no no no it's worse than that it's like

00:40:44.720 like tony blair is sitting with authority here and has a disdainful downward look on him like he

00:40:50.760 almost looks like peter hitchens i thought that actually and kirsten is saying something that's

00:40:56.140 obviously not quite correct he's obviously missing what he's he's reaching out don't you agree with

00:41:01.560 me and tony blair is obviously thinking you're going to mess this up i think the key distinction

00:41:06.320 between the two men is that byline is much more true of tony blair he's far more of a real politique

00:41:12.200 kind of guy and uh starmer is a quietly ideological in the background i think tony blair will do whatever

00:41:19.600 it is to achieve power and maintain it and he'll he will argue for whatever uh reaches that end

00:41:29.160 and i think that it's interesting that from you know this is from 2022 uh tony blair tells starmer

00:41:36.120 to drop woke politics and focus on economy and i did this segment yeah not too long ago about how

00:41:41.840 um labor is britain's most right-wing party now and this was only from three weeks ago and it's going

00:41:47.640 through countless examples of how labor was outflanking all of the current parliamentary

00:41:53.540 parties to the right i think this is a strategy that again it will it will be at blair's urging

00:41:58.300 it won't be because of anything that has popped into kirsten's mind but this is a very interesting

00:42:02.280 strategy the the left have spent the last 20 to 30 arguably even 40 50 years trying to yank the

00:42:09.080 overton window to uh to the left and to try and make that which considers confers status and

00:42:14.460 legitimacy in british politics is as being equivalent to just going along with left-wing

00:42:18.600 talking points like diversity is our strength you can't you um we're a multicultural tapestry this

00:42:24.340 this is this is this this attests to the glory of britain um it's so so interesting that then

00:42:28.940 starmer starts accusing talking about the tories uh doing an open borders experiment sounding like

00:42:34.960 renault camu and it's just such it's just such a it's such an effective tactical feint as well

00:42:40.920 because like while kemi badenock and the tories have felt an immense amount of pressure to measure

00:42:46.320 up to this sort of left-wing narrative framework all of a sudden the left just changes the script

00:42:50.960 last minute right pulls the rug from underneath them and it leaves them completely discombobulated

00:42:54.680 mark carney did a similar thing in canada when he became leader he said we need to understand that

00:42:59.520 canada's identity has always been rooted in its anglo-french heritage like sat which is would have been

00:43:04.160 completely verboten in canadian politics ever since the multiculturalism act of 1971 and the

00:43:09.360 conservatives have been sort of dutifully going along with that new framework leave your ethnic

00:43:14.360 conflicts at home it's like no anglo-french nativists and it was all of a sudden you're

00:43:19.240 outflanked from the right the right is outflanked from the right and then it has no purpose anymore

00:43:22.620 yes and that that is exactly why uh not only the like the conservatives are basically the executive

00:43:28.440 wing of the labor dream machine like labor dream up oh we should be multicultural we should be

00:43:33.520 inclusive and so the you know we need to be feminists and so the conservatives have had two

00:43:37.400 female prime ministers and an indian prime minister they've currently got an african immigrant leading

00:43:41.560 the party and labor are just nothing but straight white men and then like so they can always outflag

00:43:47.760 them for the right there's nothing the conservatives they've been duped on the rules of the game haven't

00:43:51.220 they yeah the conservatives i'm not going to swear but they're very the the left see the role of

00:43:56.280 politics as being to shape the rules of the game conservatives by which i mean the conservative

00:44:01.120 like fake conservatives see it as the as their role to obey the rules of the game and it may

00:44:05.660 even have something to do with certain sort of psychological modalities that conservative

00:44:09.940 conservative people you're the psychologist in the room that conservative people naturally have

00:44:13.920 i thought about that a great deal actually and i think you're you're onto something because i think

00:44:17.640 certain things uh certain ways of viewing the world attract certain personalities and that is very

00:44:23.740 uncontroversial but you you see it very much in our modern politics when you when you have a healthy

00:44:28.100 society that kind of psychological modality is helpful because you're preserving something

00:44:32.020 worthwhile but if there's already been a revolution you're not very conservative if your conservative

00:44:37.720 commitments make you like motivate you to conserve the fruits of this revolution you actually need to

00:44:42.200 be more psychologically like a left winger in wanting to reverse it and actually do things

00:44:46.340 that's very true so the latest proclamation from blair has been announced from the rooftops from

00:44:53.160 all of the uh mainstream media because of of course it has been and uh that is net zero is doomed to

00:44:58.940 fail blair tells starmer i love that this you are exactly right this is a proclamation from the true

00:45:04.500 emperor of the world right the emperor said net zero is doomed to fail and you know now that ed

00:45:09.820 milliband is like oh dear i'm in trouble i'm probably gonna get ed milliband of course never exceeded the

00:45:14.780 popularity of tony blair in the opinion polling obviously he's not very popular yeah but the but the

00:45:21.280 point is this is like tony blair putting a marker up on a ed milliband and saying right your time is

00:45:26.160 coming to an end now he's like pulled out a political hit on him yeah and the in fact this

00:45:30.600 was before the the electric uh blackout in spain wasn't it it's like the day before as if tony blair's

00:45:37.520 like you know let me show you how it's doomed to fail we found the culprit yeah literally a sith lord

00:45:44.420 uses the force to make spain he needed it he needed it for his force lighting all that electricity right

00:45:49.900 but the point is he proves the point by the next day an entire country going black and it's like

00:45:56.020 right again ed milliband must be all right i'm just gonna say about retirement and of course this is a

00:46:00.600 political reality that keir starmer can't ignore because britain is paying the highest electricity

00:46:04.900 price in the world and no matter what your politics are that is a massive problem it doesn't matter your

00:46:10.200 ideology if you want a functioning country you want cheap energy because it is the bedrock in which all

00:46:16.160 um economic activity is based prosperity is not possible without cheap energy absolutely simple

00:46:22.640 and so this has to be dealt with um lest starmer um really jeopardize his political future which um

00:46:30.540 he's done a good job of so far anyway so this actually has a quote from tony blair which i think

00:46:38.680 is very interesting and i actually agreed with the current approach isn't working these are the

00:46:43.520 inconvenient facts which mean that any strategy based on either phasing out fossil fuels in the

00:46:48.040 short term or limiting consumption is a strategy doomed to fail the disdain for technology uh interesting

00:46:53.760 how he throws in um uh basically a call out for his um allies because of course he is very much of the

00:47:02.540 techno globalist faction and he's constantly pushing technology as a solution to problems which

00:47:07.440 um the frustrating thing is um technology can be a solution to many problems that's what technology is

00:47:13.260 yes like the very nature the very first time that man like you know crafted a stick with a stone on

00:47:18.820 the end we have technology and it solves a problem club something yeah and he carries on to say in

00:47:24.200 favor of the purest solution of stopping fossil fuel um production is totally misguided the cop

00:47:30.100 process will not deliver change at the speed required political leaders by and large know that the debate

00:47:35.720 has become irrational but they're terrified of saying so for fear of being accused of being climate deniers

00:47:40.660 which is a perfectly this is a perfectly accurate um assessment of the situations you can't you can't

00:47:47.560 fault it really and i'm not saying this you know i'm not some rabid person who's just like i love

00:47:52.460 fossil fuels i drink a pint of petrol every day it's more um you know i'm aware that the emissions aren't

00:47:59.000 particularly good for us just from uh you know an individual basis breathing them in so i would rather

00:48:04.120 have cheap technology to to produce this energy if possible um but i i just think that it makes

00:48:12.240 perfect sense that we have as cheap energy as possible we've got the north sea oil field we have

00:48:16.380 coal we have lots of options available to us there's no reason nuclear power plants we know how to make

00:48:22.140 nuclear power plants france has 56 and they didn't go dark so um another quote he said of voters he's

00:48:31.020 saying voters feel they're being asked to make financial sacrifices and changes in lifestyle

00:48:35.340 when they know the impact on global emissions is minimal which is another perfectly fair assessment

00:48:41.080 and this is how blair operates really he he puts out something that is very uncontroversial after he's

00:48:46.840 read the public mood because he's had plenty of time to study the arguments either way and i think

00:48:52.400 the mood is shifting against net zero um at the minute and he's saying things that resonate with

00:48:57.720 your ordinary voter it seems very common sense doesn't it and that's deliberately crafted he

00:49:02.460 knows what he's doing and what he's doing is setting up for a justification for keir starmer to do a u-turn

00:49:07.460 on these policies i think that that's what's going on here is he you know he's not going to just come

00:49:12.140 out and criticize labor because it's his project at the end of the day so why is he going to the media

00:49:17.640 and saying these things well he's setting up a justification to ceding exactly and um a certain admirer of

00:49:25.580 tony blair has pointed out um that the tony blair institute um has more employees than the british

00:49:32.760 um parliament and also american members of congress and look at some of the people he's got in there

00:49:39.140 like the former um prime minister of finland there and lots of other key people um sir patrick valance

00:49:46.700 as well he was one of the key architects of the pandemic the answer of the lockdown sponsor whoops

00:49:52.420 that was a genuine misspeak the answer is that he's setting up a world government it seems like

00:49:58.340 this is what he's doing and um another thing that i thought was quite astute in as an observation was

00:50:05.880 that um the phrase making a rare intervention from prime minister tony blair um which is not rare

00:50:12.640 actually he in an unprecedented move yeah yeah we hear this constantly don't we but he's constantly

00:50:18.420 commenting on politics all the time and it's interesting to me that people say this often

00:50:22.460 specifically saying starmer's government have to do something exactly that would that's that's

00:50:27.500 quite a sentence that he's now dead but that's the kind of sentence that would have made sense about

00:50:30.940 someone like jimmy carter like oh jimmy carter has criticized biden's biden's uh immigration

00:50:35.940 okay but blair is very much very much remains an active player and uh even aaron bastani has

00:50:45.000 recognized this he's made a bit of a more vulgar comparison here politics it did make me laugh at

00:50:50.760 first he says every media intervention is finally finally tuned i think it's meant to say yeah in

00:50:57.160 misspelling uh to maximize a reaction but instead of an only fans page it ensures dollars from the

00:51:02.240 saudis and larry ellison um he doesn't believe any of it stop brexit accept brexit all the same

00:51:07.180 and i think that's actually true that's totally true because what tony blair wants is to create

00:51:11.320 a digital one world order so he's got essentially a sort of informal global government that is

00:51:18.580 formalized in the nature of the technology it uses to achieve its goals and these things will be useful

00:51:24.740 for the average person that's the problem so basically you know you'll you'll get your credit

00:51:28.260 card and you'll go to you know some backwater place you know you go on although in the congo for

00:51:32.280 some reason you'll tap your card and it'll be tony blair's doing that this all goes through and he's

00:51:36.560 weaponized the everyday desire for convenience exactly digital id yeah you go to you know peru or

00:51:42.040 like papua new guinea or something and the facial recognition scanner goes and you don't even need

00:51:45.860 your passport now you know it's like oh god but um bastani here sort of hit the nail on the head

00:51:50.740 the the mainstream media is tony blair's megaphone really yes it is they they exist to amplify his voice

00:51:57.000 and legitimize it absolutely uncritical of it is it very interesting actually because there are very

00:52:03.000 few figures in british politics that are comparable in in this way i can't think of anyone else who

00:52:07.460 has no not really and um you actually sent this to me carl though i i would be remiss not to mention

00:52:13.320 that there are some people that are um critical of him yeah these are the people sort of on the left

00:52:20.400 in the garden thing is right so you've got to remember in in the early 2000s and late 90s early

00:52:24.960 2000s tony blair had the left wrapped around his finger right he would go to these labor conferences

00:52:30.060 and there was this one one particular clip that always stuck with me where on the far left his

00:52:35.300 opponent is saying we need to be arguing for insane work policies right and this is like in the late

00:52:39.480 mid 90s i think it was and then tony blair gets up and goes yes but we won't get any of that because

00:52:43.380 we will lose whereas if we argue for 30 of what we're asking for then we'll get 30 closer to where

00:52:50.100 we are where we want to be now and so the left were like oh yeah okay fair enough and now the useful

00:52:56.600 idiots are like but we supported him and because he promises things like well you weren't really that

00:53:01.420 important actually the the the more sort of uh unhinged like wild-eyed leftists just want to

00:53:06.460 to get in and then just splurge all of their potential political capital and power and just

00:53:11.620 spend it all in the space of five minutes whereas i blair is to to his core a machiavellian and one of

00:53:17.220 machiavelli's bits of advice in the prince is that the only really defensible use of power is in the

00:53:21.900 acquisition of more power and you know that tony blair actually visited the home of machiavelli oh

00:53:27.260 did he know this yes i didn't know and he he i think he paid for the most expensive expensive

00:53:31.860 option to actually dine in his house is that right the very interesting thing to do um if you're not

00:53:39.580 a machiavellian isn't it well he absolutely is a machiavellian he is yes and probably uh quietly

00:53:44.440 proud of the fact and um the final thing is um here is here's his institute for global change

00:53:50.260 and a very long article outlining what will be done if you want a prediction for what will happen

00:53:55.820 in britain this will be it and i'm happy to put my credibility on the line to say that some of these

00:54:02.060 uh policy suggestions will be enacted by keir starmer in the future give me a couple that'll come out

00:54:09.040 well it's basically just saying we need to rely more on fossil fuels isn't it saying that we need

00:54:14.400 to make energy cheaper in the way we do that is not by um limiting um the the use of these fossil

00:54:22.580 fuels and there's pretty common sense stuff actually yes and it's almost certainly going to have to

00:54:28.940 happen because the political reality says so and tony blair has foretold it and uh keir starmer will

00:54:34.880 obediently obey so yes this is a little way of telling the future in british politics is whatever

00:54:41.460 tony says tends to go it's just a matter of time and an ism says uk politics is screwed and thus

00:54:47.420 reform creates a trumpian coalition amongst the party's leadership but farage is too insecure for

00:54:51.180 that for what so what hope is there uh well i mean things can't get any better so there is that

00:54:56.840 uh matt says uh will a new party consider a primary system so local mp's are selected by the populace in

00:55:03.200 a separate election for a general election and not centralized party leadership in london uh well

00:55:07.460 i mean it would be up to the party i mean you could that does go on to a certain extent yeah it does

00:55:12.340 to a certain extent but you could do things in any way you like uh the question is what new party

00:55:17.220 would we be looking at and the only one we've got at the moment is reform which is literally a

00:55:22.180 dictatorship so good luck uh habsification says i uh like a lot of millennials like myself were kids

00:55:30.200 during the blair era and a nostalgic of the 2000s when things still worked after until after 2008

00:55:35.220 yeah the early 2000s were a good period um and i have very fond memories of them yeah everything

00:55:40.640 yeah everything was going quite well uh bush cheney and blair were the founders of modern neocon

00:55:45.260 monstrosities yeah but the neocon bit is not really something people care about because

00:55:48.700 foreign intervention okay it's bad theoretically but if you're in britain and like look at this

00:55:55.940 bombing in iraq well in fairness i do i have an i have an essay in the most recent edition of the

00:56:01.100 european conservative where i go into the kind of paleo con neocon thing and i actually do think

00:56:05.560 that um while it it's true that most people are not really that interested in what's going on in

00:56:11.040 iraq and syria and wherever else the neocons might want to invade the fact that they want to invade

00:56:15.320 those places and turn them into liberal democracies goes to show that they do believe in the

00:56:19.200 interchangeability of all peoples because they think that that can be done and so the the very same

00:56:22.900 motivations that that drive neocons to want to invade abroad also drive them to want to invite at

00:56:29.480 home and so steve saylor has this sort of invade and invite it's the sort of neocon policy so there

00:56:34.600 there is a mass immigration is to some extent a function of neocon beliefs about the the fungibility

00:56:41.560 of all peoples and the plasticity of human beings they were just liberal imperialists yes so obviously

00:56:46.860 all the liberal assumptions hold and uh one one thing i really despise is the if you hadn't bombed my

00:56:52.940 country i wouldn't have come to your country it's like we're going to see how well that plays out

00:56:55.840 the pakistani refugee is going to flood the wind no of course they're not of course if you get the

00:57:01.200 idea is that if you can turn every iraqi in iraq into a liberal democrat then maybe you can turn

00:57:05.120 every iraqi in britain into a liberal democrat which is working just fine uh is there anyone

00:57:09.920 trump-like in the uk uh maybe i guess we'll see and hewitt says uh bledge wants to push digital id

00:57:16.200 cash society's stolen state first and the idea of the being net zero can be implemented uh without

00:57:21.020 opposition well i think i think blair is actually not that bothered about the net zero stuff i think he

00:57:25.420 genuinely just wants the technocratic control and after that anything is fine you know it doesn't

00:57:30.240 matter if we uh i think um for most people who are more globalist minded the the results of net zero

00:57:38.340 are more important to them than the actual net zero process itself anyway so let's move on i would

00:57:45.820 like to talk about the cuckoo bird now i'm not a wildlife expert but countrylife.co.uk have a superb

00:57:54.440 article here telling us all about the cuckoo now uh for anyone who doesn't know this is just a

00:57:58.600 british bird but um it's kind of evil i heard one over the weekend actually yeah they've got an

00:58:04.760 appealing uh call but uh i have a clock with one that pops out every hour yeah uh so they say the

00:58:11.320 cuckoo is the only british bird not to rear its own young the common cuckoo makes no nest of its own

00:58:16.000 instead using other birds to handle incubation and feeding duties favored host species or dupes

00:58:22.080 include meadow pippets robins dunnocks reed warblers pied wagtails and willow warblers for

00:58:28.160 anyone who knows anything about british birds these are all lovely little british birds they're very

00:58:31.340 quite the ornithologist actually are you yes uh that's interesting so um one of the things i don't

00:58:36.800 know whether you're going to get onto it but i there are lots of interesting analogies here that

00:58:41.080 you can make for example um for example the the chick when it's born and raised by the uh the

00:58:49.300 non-cuckoo bird whichever it may be uh then pushes the unhatched eggs out of the nest and let me get

00:58:56.040 to that and uh becomes the soul yes let me get to it so yeah the the the point being though these

00:59:01.520 birds are all much smaller than the cuckoo the targeted hen birds proceed then to hatch the egg

00:59:06.980 and rear the cuckoo chick even after the hatchling has ejected all of the other eggs legitimate eggs

00:59:11.640 and chicks from the nest sending them to the nest because the cuckoo chick is obviously bigger than the

00:59:15.380 small chicks that is surrounded by so it can just physically overpower them uh the foster parents

00:59:20.240 tend to ignore this outrage and put their energies into feeding the young cuckoo because of course

00:59:23.600 they're just animals um even as it grows to five times their size as the fool put it in king lear act

00:59:32.760 one scene four the hedge sparrow fed the cuckoo so long that it had its head bit off by its young

00:59:38.300 the years naturalists struggled to accept that such behavior even existed the reverend gilbert white

00:59:44.300 called it a monstrous outrage on maternal affection one of the first dictates of nature others tried to

00:59:50.260 find mitigating explanations one of white's correspondents dane's barrington advanced the

00:59:54.880 comforting thought the mother cuckoo probably carried on feeding its young visiting the foster

00:59:58.620 parents nest which is of course not true uh even when edward jenner better known for his pioneering

01:00:04.060 work on vaccination produced a paper in 1787 describing the process by which the young cuckoo

01:00:08.820 tumbled the eggs and chicks out of the nest and told of watching the foster parents feeding the cuckoo

01:00:13.000 it was initially rejected by the council of the royal society because they thought it was too

01:00:16.980 monstrous uh but not all of the mysteries of the creature been fully explained given the young

01:00:21.660 cuckoos aren't reared by their true parents which begin migrating back to africa in july

01:00:26.460 when their offspring are being reared by the parents the fledglings must find their way out of

01:00:31.880 the country to their ancestral wintering grounds alone so how do they do it remittances yeah

01:00:38.120 and if a mother bird notices that they have a cuckoo egg in their nest uh they will they will they

01:00:46.600 will push these eggs out um so you know some slightly smarter ones will do it and save their

01:00:51.860 own babies uh this is a mother who's done this at some point in this video but uh but the point

01:00:58.080 anyway so it you you you can see that there is a sort of natural defense mechanism like this is not

01:01:03.040 an egg therefore i will get it out so anyway moving on we're going to talk about sadiq khan

01:01:08.040 uh does have quite the beak on him doesn't he he does indeed he does there's many similarities

01:01:14.140 but for no apparent reason we're going to move to sadiq khan who yesterday published uh this article

01:01:19.740 on lbc opinion quote english muslim european and proud of every part of my identity writes sir sadiq khan

01:01:27.980 and this article is just incredible because one of the things i like is when sadiq khan tries to

01:01:34.060 explain why he's doing something because sadiq khan has understood the blairite project and he's

01:01:39.620 decided yeah no it is power at all costs and therefore i am an englishman tactically says

01:01:45.320 sadiq khan and so we'll go through this and i just want to be very clear sadiq khan isn't an englishman

01:01:49.140 and never will be and cannot be so anyway uh he says quote as mayor of london and as a proud and

01:01:54.840 patriotic englishman that's why he spent his lawyer career defending jihadis you know

01:02:00.520 every proud patriotic englishman does this uh i've always been passionate about ensuring our

01:02:05.960 capital city not only recognizes saint george's day but does so in style never heard you mention

01:02:11.560 it before you got worried that english identity became part of the mainstream conversation so why

01:02:16.300 would a muslim venerate a christian saint as well it's an unusual choice he was also very popular during

01:02:22.700 the crusades but anyway he says growing up i wasn't always comfortable around the saint george's flag

01:02:28.620 there was a time when first the national front then the bmp were on the march and it felt that our flag

01:02:33.540 had been co-opted by them so our flag right our flag very interesting uh but for me everything changed

01:02:40.720 one glorious summer what do you think happened it was something truly momentous did he follow the

01:02:47.320 football or something something as meaningless and trivial as that it's exactly it is it really yes

01:02:52.440 the night euro 96 yes that's exactly correct in euro 96 england defeated the dutch for one at

01:02:59.500 wembley and that was it city calm was a proud englishman from that moment on uh it was an exhilarating

01:03:05.820 performance that led to an outpouring of joy and euphoria after the final whistle tens of thousands

01:03:10.560 of us waved the red cross with gusto and embraced while chanting football's coming home right that's all it

01:03:16.560 takes that's what it is for for city khan this the i mean there's you know the thousand year plus

01:03:22.380 great ancestry in history of england none of that matters to the khan it's also worth mentioning here

01:03:28.300 that the game of football is something you you don't participate in if you're watching your national

01:03:32.860 team unless you're one of the uh very fortunate players yeah um and so actually you're watching from

01:03:38.880 the sidelines with very little input in it and it's there's a great analogy there to the influence

01:03:44.360 he's had on on british culture which is yeah he's he's never been a part of it so he can't really

01:03:49.560 influence he's been a part of british culture i can concede that um well english culture yeah but

01:03:55.140 well he himself viewed himself as an outsider of course this is the flag of racist as far as he's

01:04:00.400 concerned well i was just gonna say it's um it's remarkable how these as soon as these claims are

01:04:06.700 made in an ethnic or racial context they are untouchable whereas we have gradually come around to

01:04:13.020 understanding the idea that you can't just assign your be self-assigned with regards to gender with

01:04:18.600 regards to personal identity you can't claim to be napoleon a man can't claim to be a woman uh this

01:04:23.880 this is not um countenanced in any in any other situation and yet it's remarkable that it is

01:04:28.640 countenanced here and the reason why people like sadiq khan do this is that they they completely so i i'm

01:04:34.800 in favor of roughly classifying uh immigrant populations living here into three groups people

01:04:39.640 who are hostile to us and that's sadiq khan yes people who are indifferent to us that would be

01:04:43.660 rishi sunak and people who actually like us and there are a few of those and you know there are a

01:04:48.660 fair few god bless them um and uh but what people people like sadiq khan who is on the hostile end

01:04:54.560 and people like rishi sunak who's on the indifferent end but still identifies as english but also while

01:04:58.060 identifying as indian is they can they completely flip their identity in accordance with how it benefits

01:05:03.060 them politically and and in terms of expedience so a really good way of smoking them out and testing

01:05:07.260 them particularly someone who's hostile like sadiq khan is to say if we if it were agreed in

01:05:11.880 parliament that the british people the english people were going to pay reparations for colonialism

01:05:18.180 how much would you how much would you pay as an englishman like and given that you are um the the

01:05:23.380 descendant of people who who were colonized in pakistan i believe um would you be a recipient of

01:05:29.980 that money or would you be coughing up and obviously he would at that point renounce any claim

01:05:34.480 to english identity as indeed i suspect with rishi with rishi sunak well this is a a form of political

01:05:40.400 rhetoric really that is only possible with the notion of a civic identity you see this all the

01:05:45.140 time in the united states where people describe themselves as american up until um you know

01:05:50.400 something goes on in their ethnic homeland and then all of a sudden they're speaking oh as an italian

01:05:56.920 uh and it's like hang on a minute what where did this come from and it's worth pointing out there is

01:06:02.460 no such thing as an uh an english or welsh or a scottish civic identity the only civic identity we

01:06:08.860 have is british yes even that is a function of um that's a function of sort of institute

01:06:14.820 institutional facts that could cease to exist i mean all civic identities yes but no they are but

01:06:19.680 this is the problem i mean this is a point that's routinely made like when yugoslavia exists

01:06:24.240 you can be you can have this yugoslavian civic identity but it's since broken down

01:06:29.200 and at that point you are just left with serbs crats ethnic identities ethnic identities and

01:06:34.200 and so let's say that tito in yugoslavia had sponsored like wave upon wave of say rwandan

01:06:39.700 immigration and all of a sudden there were one million rwandans living in yugoslavia

01:06:43.180 and they could claim some kind of yugoslavs yeah one million yugoslavs well as soon as yugoslavia ceases

01:06:49.240 to exist that that that's the claim to a civic identity can't be can't be staked anymore and so

01:06:54.080 so if a similar thing were to happen in britain they wouldn't even be able to take refuge in a

01:06:58.820 kind of non-committal overarching british civic identity that they wouldn't be able to do that

01:07:05.080 no at all um yeah so the english identity is is purely uh ethnic at this point uh and but he says

01:07:12.660 in you know watching the football uh in that moment it felt as if our flag had been reclaimed and recast

01:07:19.620 as a symbol of national unity uh well it is for the english it's never not been uh something that

01:07:25.300 no longer belonged to the hateful few but to the decent majority again it is the national flag of

01:07:30.580 england there's always been our flag why would you even anyway so this all sounds perfectly fine so far

01:07:38.960 but then this is where the subversion comes into it this is where the eggs get kicked out of the nest

01:07:44.420 right so you know the the new egg is in the nest the cooker is hatched and now the eggs are being

01:07:50.360 pushed out he says this in the years that followed there's no doubt that we made real social progress

01:07:55.300 as a country we became more liberal and inclusive in our understanding of national identity as

01:08:01.760 englishness and saint george's flag covered and were adopted by a wider cross-section of our diverse

01:08:07.240 society go your eggs there's the next one increasingly we became to we came to appreciate

01:08:13.640 that our people could have multiple identities oh our people can have multiple identities can they

01:08:18.700 multiple identities though isn't that a disorder um last time i checked the dsm-5 it was multiple

01:08:25.540 identities you know yes i mean can i identify as a pakistani man who's an english man but imagine not

01:08:32.120 if if i became prime minister tomorrow would india celebrate possibly not uh would you identify uh

01:08:39.060 would you like bow deferentially to walk to um narendra modi if you met him on behalf of britain

01:08:44.460 uh i mean he's he's very short as i understand so he might have to yeah but not the deferentially

01:08:49.560 no yeah not not deferentially just crouch um but uh he says for example i'm proud to be a londoner and

01:08:54.960 to be english and the thing is londoner was always a subset of the english identity as being a yorkshire

01:09:00.380 man is as being a wiltshire man is you know these are all english subsets of the english identity

01:09:04.200 also where i'm from it's a bit of a slur you well yeah i mean is now well it probably was then

01:09:10.060 actually yeah yeah yeah but the but the point being is this this is not an identity that is outside

01:09:15.120 of the identity of being an englishman uh it is not an ethnic identity to be a londoner the ethnic

01:09:21.000 identity is englishman uh and so he says people have can have multiple identities in that way but they

01:09:26.340 need to be consistent with one another there's a hierarchy yes you know that you have an identity

01:09:30.100 on something because you are only one thing you have a personal identity you have a familial identity

01:09:33.940 exactly you have a regional identity you may even have a i mean and when i say civic identity i mean

01:09:37.840 like a city identity these are components of a greater whole of a greater whole exactly they

01:09:42.520 have to be consistent with one another and and this is where he becomes inconsistent so he says i'm

01:09:46.000 proud to be a londoner and to be english which is just funny to look at you say that he says just as

01:09:51.740 i am proud to be pakistani and asian right so i mean don't go wrong if his mom was english and his dad

01:09:58.100 was pakistani i would concede this so yep you are literally mixed race you have half and half you these are

01:10:03.620 both identities you have but that's not the case for sadiq khan who is 100 pakistani so you are not an

01:10:10.520 englishman i'm sorry to tell you but he says he's also a proud european uh and someone of islamic faith

01:10:16.800 because so many europeans are islamic oh so many okay can i make a quick point here i think i think

01:10:21.360 one of the reasons why we're so petrified of making this very making this very banal and straightforward

01:10:29.000 observation is that over the last 60 years in the case of america and over the last 30 years in the

01:10:34.640 case of european countries not least britain we have defined what it means to be a nation purely

01:10:39.300 in terms of values and so the implication given that we've been running on that software for 30

01:10:44.480 years or so the implication if i say that sadiq khan is not british or is not english is that he's

01:10:49.560 morally defective in some way now i happen to think that he is morally but he's not morally

01:10:55.600 defective in respect of not being english and he's not morally defective in respect of being a

01:10:59.760 pakistani like there's a difference between an evaluation of some of someone's moral character

01:11:05.720 and an evaluation of their identity and when you talk about someone's identity like that doesn't

01:11:10.800 have any necessary bearing on moral character but because we fuse these two categories in order to

01:11:15.940 get civic nationalism working and to say that well what makes britain britain is its values all of a

01:11:20.480 sudden if you're excluding someone from the party you it is an implied moral judgment against them

01:11:25.100 in in a way in a way that wouldn't have been the case when people were just living that identity

01:11:28.720 freely and were able to make category distinctions between a claim about unalterable identity you're

01:11:34.560 not a woman you're not napoleon you're not dutch yeah completely um morally disinterested judgment

01:11:41.140 just the thing is also retroactively does crazy things to our perception of the past for example

01:11:45.940 wellington didn't hold british values exactly so going over to napoleon don't worry you're not

01:11:49.780 fighting the british today because they don't hold british values like well who am i fighting british

01:11:53.780 don't exist today yeah exactly the british actually don't exist there there's no army over there now

01:11:57.240 don't worry about it i was just going to say ever so quickly that it's very interesting that the

01:12:02.220 incidence of the term british value terms british values um spikes massively from 1997

01:12:08.600 all of a sudden you need to impose some kind of artificial unity on this newly balkanized

01:12:13.500 population and so you you resort to like mickey mouse values and they're and they because they need

01:12:18.460 to accommodate so many different people no no you have to be a paddington valley paddington values

01:12:22.400 that's exactly what it is and so there is there is thin anodyne as possible so sorry he it's just

01:12:26.760 he you are completely on the money here right and he basically admits it throughout this piece it's

01:12:31.380 incredible actually but no you're completely correct ethnicity is just inherited regardless of what

01:12:36.840 your values are you know my values are not the same as like my 12th century ancestors uh but they're

01:12:41.620 still my ancestors yeah actually now you say it maybe they are a lot more similar than my first

01:12:49.780 gave them credit for being um but the point is uh you are fictionally english sadiq and we all know

01:12:58.200 this i mean if if one were to deny your englishness sadiq how would you prove it say that again sorry

01:13:03.640 if one were to deny sadiq khan's englishness how would he prove it yeah it would be an appeal to

01:13:07.920 authority surely it's like i'm the mayor of london of course i'm english well wow that's not a that's

01:13:12.380 not a given uh in fact he's the proof of that but the point is you know if if you say if sadiq

01:13:17.360 come say well i'm english i'm gonna prove it well how's he going to prove it there's no objective

01:13:20.960 category he can use to prove it well i mean it is the same logic of self-id that is increasingly

01:13:26.500 the right is very very eager and not only the right but certain portions of the left are very very keen

01:13:31.240 to point out like the absurdity of transgenderism like the metaphysical absurdity of it

01:13:36.620 and i think this is this this is on a par with that in terms of absurdity but it's just because

01:13:42.180 the race taboo is much much much much stronger in our society and much more salient in our society

01:13:46.920 than say that trans taboo to the extent that i mean they tried to create one but it didn't really work

01:13:51.820 um so logically they're just as absurd i would argue there's actually it's more absurd in this

01:13:57.340 instance than the other because uh there's there's more similarity between men and women of the same

01:14:02.520 ethnicity than there is between two very distant ethnicities yes so uh sadiq khan like says he's he

01:14:10.280 he says you know i'm a londoner i'm english i'm pakistanian i'm asian and i'm european as well

01:14:15.120 and i'm a muslim and in my identities these in my eyes these identities don't contradict one another

01:14:20.920 right they have to by the nature of categorization itself if one thing i mean the very nature of an

01:14:28.940 identity is defined against things that it is not otherwise you don't have an identity uh and he

01:14:35.240 says they make us who we are there is no tension between patriotism and pluralism and so this is

01:14:39.640 essentially a form of identity theft from sadiq khan uh you inherit your ethnic identity which is why

01:14:44.820 he even referred i mean if you're an englishman sadiq why did you even say i am a pakistanian asian

01:14:49.700 heritage why why even bring this up if you're just an englishman this is this is the other thing that

01:14:54.220 makes it particularly profligate in this case is that like at least the transgender law didn't go

01:14:59.200 well some of the some of them claim to be gender fluid so they would be a man one day and a woman the

01:15:03.040 next but they would usually just stick to whatever they have assigned themselves as their gender they

01:15:07.500 would continue like performing man like manliness or performing womanhood um and identifying as such

01:15:14.520 whereas what's particularly outrageous in this case is that that he he is on record not only claiming

01:15:19.720 to be pakistani but but but you know talking about the need to advance certain pakistani interests

01:15:24.720 that it clearly matters to him a great deal he's sort of passionately pakistani

01:15:28.360 the reason these dual identities exist in a public facing way is that it's whichever is politically

01:15:37.700 expedient of course yes yes and and that's we're getting to it now because this is the point this is

01:15:43.080 about political expediency and he mentions uh rishi sunak of course uh if you close your eyes he sounds

01:15:49.220 like the quintessential englishman so yeah but if i have to close my eyes to think rishi sunak is

01:15:53.480 english then perhaps that's an indication that he might not be english like like radically limit your

01:16:00.080 your sensory apparatus and i may seem correct until you turn it back fully back on again exactly uh and

01:16:07.680 he says uh so the the question of whether rishi sunak is english he's not english he's indian which is

01:16:12.500 why india celebrates it and again no judgment i actually on a personal level i think i probably quite

01:16:16.500 like what he's saying he seems like a nice chap uh and i bet he throws a good barbecue but he's not

01:16:21.160 an englishman uh that was a which is why invite him to your lockdown breaking party though i i would

01:16:26.240 yeah well it was his office that he took the pictures oh was it right right yeah yeah it's very

01:16:31.880 interesting anyway uh he says that was a thoroughly depressing episode uh for you uh but also revealing

01:16:37.800 of the fact that too long politicians leaders and others have not done enough to make the case for a

01:16:42.320 progressive patriotism ceding ground to the populist and far right uh and there we go this is about we

01:16:49.800 have an identity that he is not privy to he is not a part of this and they know that english is not

01:16:55.820 only an ethnic identity it's the one they've been calling far right all this time but actually the

01:17:01.160 world is changing and everyone's thinking oh what am i and it turns out that 75 of the country is still

01:17:06.160 english as all right so if an ethnic consciousness arises in the english against multiculturalism

01:17:12.280 do they have the power to vote their way out of this uh they actually do um by quite a long margin

01:17:17.780 because when people might think that we've been taken over by muslims because they're literally

01:17:21.020 represented everywhere but there's still only about six to seven percent of the population

01:17:24.260 uh no it's mostly still us and we're just slumbering uh anyway so uh he says well that means it's

01:17:30.940 quite difficult to pin down exactly what it means to be english it's like no it doesn't be english means

01:17:35.000 you would just have an english parent it's literally that simple it's nothing else to it

01:17:39.860 really but uh he says it's fluid no it's not it's not a fixed concept yes it is and it's been fixed

01:17:46.260 for a thousand years um in fact it's one of the most fixed concepts in all of history if you think

01:17:51.420 about it because if you look at a map of the boards of england they just haven't changed uh since

01:17:56.160 literally ethelstan so it's actually again of all the identities you could have it is actually one of

01:18:02.100 the most fixed um uh anyway so he says developed over hundreds of years absorbing many different

01:18:08.460 people and ethnicities to some is it about mannerisms and manners cups of tea and crickets paddington

01:18:13.680 our green pleasant land and of course the penalty shootout heartbreak look if football disappeared

01:18:18.360 tomorrow i'd still be an englishman to others it's about fish and chips just okay sadiq uh and he says

01:18:26.540 modern england is a tapestry of cultures faiths histories and influences yeah forced upon us

01:18:31.600 by without our consent uh and he says we're and this uh country is bound together by the values of

01:18:39.500 democracy decency fairness and respect so it's purely about taking whatever you think your english

01:18:45.260 identity is and substituting it with modern progressive values this is what being really is

01:18:51.280 it's about democracy decency fairness and respect so it's just british values

01:18:54.940 uh and it's a place where we're not forced to choose between our flag and our family history

01:18:59.160 yeah i don't know about that sadiq uh our home or our heritage a country that is proud of its history

01:19:05.280 fighting fascism we've fought a lot more things than fascism sadiq again we had way more crusades

01:19:11.440 than we had wars against germany we're proud of our nhs because of course the nhs england didn't exist

01:19:17.980 before the nhs uh what what year was the nhs founded yeah well there we go so that was the official

01:19:23.380 formation element uh and key workers i'm proud of its diversity and inclusive ethos are you proud

01:19:29.640 of our diversity and inclusive ethos particularly no the idea of progressive nationalism is that

01:19:35.240 sorry the idea of a progressive progressive model of patriotism is that um uh the less the country

01:19:43.160 consists of its own people the more truly that country it is that's literally what that's basically

01:19:49.660 what he's saying it's literally what he's saying he says there are so many reasons to take pride in

01:19:53.720 being english because we celebrate everything that makes our country so great we must always be on

01:19:57.540 guard against those who who's so-called patriotism seems less about love of country and more about

01:20:02.660 exclusion of others imagine if i went to pakistan and started saying you know what makes pakistan

01:20:06.560 really really great the fact that it is filled to the rafters increasingly of non-pakistani people and

01:20:11.640 then i would and then i would just try and divert i'd also just try and distract and divert

01:20:15.500 patriotic pakistani energy whatever that looks like probably quite menacing but divert it to

01:20:21.460 divert it to things like cuisines and football matches and cricket and all this sort of thing

01:20:25.540 and i was just to try and make pakistani identity as thin as possible just so that i can be accommodated

01:20:30.340 there um they wouldn't i don't imagine they tolerate it and uh here i don't imagine he'd tolerate it

01:20:35.460 no but he ends this by saying i have faith that the quiet majority will always choose proper

01:20:39.660 patriotism over poisonous populism it's in our dna and one of the reasons why i'm proud to be english

01:20:46.440 like let's do the ancestry test sadiq let's see how much of your english dna really shines through

01:20:53.400 there so basically it's it's funny how um when it comes to you know testing your ancestry all of a

01:21:00.840 sudden people forget all of the political programming and yeah they understand it perfectly

01:21:05.300 100 percent uh anyway and they're fascinated by it yeah yeah like david lamney did this he's like

01:21:11.260 oh i'm part of the tureg tribe or whatever this tribe i'm gonna go to africa and write a book about

01:21:15.100 being an african it's like what are you doing here you know if this is fascinating to you i mean great

01:21:19.480 i'm glad you're happy go you know but anyway uh so yeah he's just trying to make the being english

01:21:24.480 the equivalent of being woke and i'm not going to have it of course and again somehow they always find

01:21:29.100 their way back home it's just really interesting how the cuckoo finds its way back to its original

01:21:35.000 continent right just remarkable i just don't know how they do it scientists have yet to discover

01:21:39.440 anyway uh i like to think he was a refugee here well no he he his family came over after the partition

01:21:47.700 okay because uh they were escaping violence uh because for some reason if the british aren't in

01:21:54.300 complete control of india and pakistan they kill each other a lot uh anyway let's go to the video comments

01:21:59.580 that's nice that's beautiful morning lotus eaters i still have plenty of pictures from this last

01:22:11.300 hiking trip so i thought i'd share a few more our first hike up stacker buke was towards the east end

01:22:16.680 of the columbia river gorge and our second was further west and in my opinion more beautiful as much as i

01:22:22.520 enjoy making fun of oregon i gotta say mount hood is a very picturesque mountain there is no shortage of

01:22:28.140 good places to take pictures got a picture of this little guy as well hanging out on the trail

01:22:32.700 hope you guys are having a good week so far oregon's beautiful it's i really enjoy your video comments

01:22:39.440 because they're always so wonderful it's it's like such a a nice palate cleanser after talking about

01:22:45.140 how bad the world is and you get suddenly reminded how beautiful it is well look if i had to see sadiq

01:22:50.340 khan in my mentions first that why he wasn't in my mentions but my feed this morning i'm gonna make

01:22:54.340 everyone else's problem let's go to the next one good morning the sun is rising in the greenhouse

01:23:03.280 across the cucumbers the tomatoes and the peppers and the equal opportunities tomato this guy only

01:23:11.800 has one leaf they need two in order to grow more this is genetic it came out of this out of the seed

01:23:18.080 like this it can only grow this very thick creepy stem it upsets me but equal opportunities he's here

01:23:26.480 let's see what happens i know that tomato is a dei

01:23:30.600 very wholesome it's all very wholesome these are great video comments just fyi keep sending us nice

01:23:39.760 video comments guys uh next one so car i've been watching your videos about the political divide

01:23:44.680 between the genders and the way i see it is that there's no real way that a man can really form

01:23:48.400 the opinion of a woman um there has to be another way forward actually another strategy another tactic

01:23:53.020 because anyone who's been in a relationship will understand that they usually make it to their mind

01:23:57.240 and that's usually about it so there has to be something else that we can do to help try to

01:24:01.920 uh mitigate this problem that we have uh between the genders you know it would have been way easier

01:24:07.640 to have been able to follow that if you weren't firing a gun at stuff it does make it easier to agree

01:24:12.160 with you yeah yeah but no i actually did follow that um uh it's it's something i have to do a

01:24:17.220 longer thing on but no men absolutely can set the opinion of women and actually i think it's kind of

01:24:22.740 our job to do so uh we just have to be um i mean i think it's the sort of thing that you know in the

01:24:28.400 sort of like really like ideologically right-wing manosphere types are like you know men need to be

01:24:34.400 leaders there is something to it actually um i think it's best done when you're not consciously

01:24:39.800 doing it if you know what i mean if you if you're being authentically yourself people are drawn

01:24:44.620 towards that and therefore want to emulate it and also you need to demonstrate that you are a worthy

01:24:50.440 leader you can't just like shout your way and you can't just say that you have the power you need to

01:24:55.380 actually embody it and once you embody it you don't need to mention it that's that's basically what it

01:24:59.720 comes down to it's not an easy thing and i don't have time to go into it now uh let's go to the next

01:25:04.780 video comment my comment from last week pointed out that liberal voters tend to be boomers and

01:25:09.840 your coverage analyzed that what you fail to analyze is that they're also strongly female

01:25:14.820 women vote on emotion men on policy trump is highly emotive also the specter of access to abortion is a

01:25:22.260 solved issue in canada through act of parliament canadians particularly canadian women cannot grasp

01:25:27.680 that they are in the westminster system and parliament is sovereign still one woman i spoke to could not

01:25:33.440 grasp this and kept wittering on about constitutional rights in the supreme court

01:25:37.500 god they really are just like angry non-americans that's the canadian identity at this point well

01:25:46.060 they exist in the shadow of america and it's a shame that they don't look to their um you know

01:25:50.680 their founding nation there's always been a strong uh we've got an episode of the program coming out with

01:25:57.220 eric kauffman uh this this evening on the canadian election and it is interesting because

01:26:01.420 uh canadian anti-americanism used to be the flip side of something more positive namely the fact

01:26:08.120 that the um you know expressed by the british loyalist tradition um and so it didn't actually

01:26:13.860 used to be all that bad but now it's just a sort of demented directionless anti-americanism and it's

01:26:18.060 intensified by the fact that it's trump's america but canada's basically been deliberately hollowing

01:26:22.420 out its identity since the 1960s it's now it used to be british loyalism and then of course we've got

01:26:26.940 the french quebecois but now it's very much multiculturalism we like maple syrup and we're

01:26:31.500 not america and still less than we trump's america and and that is not so it's not a very good recipe

01:26:36.460 for for holding together a national identity so when i when i was young like the the traditional

01:26:40.920 identity that people perceived of canadian was like the mountie right but that is very much in the

01:26:47.040 ethnic center of the british sort of view of things right the mountie is a is a very respectable chap you

01:26:54.460 know very hardy respectable guy and he was his own thing like we didn't they're not americans obviously

01:26:59.540 americans are temperamentally completely different to the very softly spoken but sturdy mountie and now

01:27:05.660 you're right but that that's an ethnic identity that has to be whittled away so it can be multicultural

01:27:10.460 it's a shame really because canada had quite a reputation for having very hardy soldiers as well

01:27:15.960 i have um i had family over in canada um that fought um for the canadians in world war one and two

01:27:22.340 and um yeah they they did very well you can't live in a country like canada without becoming tough

01:27:28.000 that's true yeah uh so yeah it's it's really sad that they've turned into whining libs it was just

01:27:33.080 oh we just hate the orange man it's like yeah shouldn't you be shooting a bear or something it's

01:27:37.600 also like somewhat mr misdirected nationalist drive if it's all focused on not liking the president

01:27:44.060 to your immediate south while leaving the back door open to half of the subcontinent it's just

01:27:48.740 how do you feel about moody yeah yeah uh yeah anyway um uh chase says if the king were just to

01:27:55.000 have enough uh what do you think happens to australia canada and new zealand could be an

01:27:58.960 interesting lads hour slash round table um well i don't know i don't know what i mean i know didn't

01:28:05.240 australia vote to keep the king recently didn't see that i'm pretty sure they did they voted against

01:28:10.640 the voice referendum they did vote against that but i think it was before that okay but um but i don't i

01:28:15.500 don't know what the king's actual uh pull would be in canada australia new zealand uh but in england

01:28:21.440 he would be it would i mean he would be very popular if he was just sort some of the problems

01:28:25.520 out um anyway lord nerevas says parked my usual place uh in the city today right next to the local

01:28:31.020 migrant hotel made sure to cast evil looks at the millers outside of it for people milling around

01:28:35.540 uh for all the good it does i know dozens of people who all agree on one thing the hotel has to go

01:28:39.680 preferably out of business once all the chances are ejected from our shores uh yeah i mean that's

01:28:44.320 like everyone feels this way well they've moved into rented accommodation soon so yeah so they'll

01:28:49.140 be in your street rather than the town center um but like whenever whenever i'm like um like in a

01:28:54.800 shop or something and there's some foreigner and they're doing something weird i'll see the other

01:28:59.480 english people that catch my eye and just like yeah like you know everyone can feel it you know i've

01:29:04.300 got to the point of just openly talking about it in front of the person doing it and and just

01:29:08.680 treating them like a child basically but then then sometimes they will actually overhear and be like

01:29:14.060 oh i'm sorry so i i had to get the train back from london the other day and it was a sunday

01:29:18.420 evening and there was no seats obviously it's completely packed on sunday evening i don't know

01:29:22.620 why uh but there was a an english chap who was sat in the aisle like in the thing there i'm stood by

01:29:29.120 the door and there's some african guy eating chicken wings with his headphones and singing to

01:29:33.620 himself and i saw the guy sat there just looking at him you know just and i was just like and do i say

01:29:40.000 something do i want to he might have a knife you know i'm not going to say something but um but i

01:29:43.780 could just see it happening in real time just you know because this guy was a cyclist or something

01:29:47.900 and his bike or whatever but it was just like you know the the annoyance the ed davey sort of

01:29:53.140 angry centrist dad energy is rising i just hope that when uh when the saxon really does begin to

01:29:58.900 hate it there aren't just six of us left like yeah yeah well i think it's getting quite soon i think

01:30:04.100 people are really getting pissed off uh anyway one last one uh matthew hammond says did tony blair

01:30:09.100 really tell starmer to drop woke politics and focus on the economy but he was responsible for

01:30:13.240 the industrializing what was left of the uk during his time as prime minister i think that started

01:30:17.140 with thatcher to be honest i did begin with thatcher but tony blair carried on that's true i mean

01:30:21.240 everything has been the same program basically since that year uh and yes he did and yeah i there's a

01:30:28.260 part of me that wonders if blair ever regrets any of the things that he's done because he is

01:30:32.460 constantly now reining in the excesses of his own project but no you can't do this so why are they

01:30:37.100 trying to do that in tony but anyway we're out of time there so uh harrison where can people go

01:30:41.400 find more of you oh um i still write for the european conservative i'm a new culture forum

01:30:47.020 the program goes out every seven o'clock every thursday at seven o'clock and i do a monthly show

01:30:53.460 called the forge for the european conservative which can be found on youtube most recent guest

01:30:56.580 was matt goodwin and actually got quite contentious at times so that's worth a look if you you get the

01:31:00.240 chance excellent right well thank you so much for joining us a pleasure pleasure and uh we will see

01:31:04.460 you in half an hour for calvin's common sense crusade

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