The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1161

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus it is for friday the 9th

00:00:04.020 of may 2025 i'm joined by beau and today we're going to be talking about how a man has been

00:00:09.900 charged with quote harassing islam the nightmare future of britain that we seem to be insisting on 0.95

00:00:16.400 just walking straight into as if there were no other no other choices and how they lied about

00:00:23.060 the southport riots are you going to be shocked to learn it wasn't the far right well it wasn't

00:00:29.420 far right thugs no it wasn't despite what the prime minister said and all of the media said

00:00:35.040 and all the people that they blamed it wasn't actually far right thuggery uh again remarkable

00:00:42.040 that our establishment would just be wildly ideological and just spew a bunch of lies

00:00:45.900 about something that they don't have any control over but there we go this is the world we live in

00:00:49.920 so not exactly great news for the podcast but after the podcast we do have lads hour and best time of

00:00:56.440 the week because uh we've got a great uh great topic today i kept coming across lists of things

00:01:02.660 that women have made about what makes men feminine and so what we're going to do is find out how girly 0.92

00:01:07.560 we are that women may tread conservative women not not just trackers just normal women all right

00:01:11.780 normal women most women sorry just normal women who are dating men who are just like uh when he 0.88

00:01:17.020 eats with a fork that makes me think of he's a girl right things like this long list of things so

00:01:22.720 we're going to go through and we're going to tally up our girly score and we're going to see who the

00:01:26.340 most girly of us is uh honestly i think i'm going to win this uh i'm not joking i think i'm going to

00:01:32.120 win this by wind you mean the highest or the lowest the highest i'm going to be the most girly i'm not

00:01:38.040 even joking i've seen the list you guys haven't seen the list and i'm like oh i do like oat milk

00:01:43.000 you know so you know i think i'm going to be the most girly in the office which not great but what

00:01:50.900 like i won't necessarily turn down haribo or candy floss uh well i'm like that i'm okay on that

00:01:56.920 charge but you yes it's it's something like that it's not great and it's all brilliant so i'm gonna

00:02:02.660 have to grow my beard out like yours i'm gonna have to grow this giant bushy ayatollah style beard 0.85

00:02:07.320 just to compensate anyway let's uh let's begin so in britain recently a man has been uh charged with

00:02:15.860 burning a quran under the auspices of quote harassing islam do we know just to cut to the 0.99

00:02:24.040 change do we know what the actual uh parliamentary act is that he was charged under do we uh well we

00:02:29.460 we don't exactly i have a statement from the crown prosecution service uh that i'll get to in a minute

00:02:36.400 just to give you the exact words that they've given us but i think we can deduce from that which

00:02:41.880 one it is it's going to be some sort of hate speech law basically it'll be hate crime legislation of

00:02:45.960 some sort um but uh so this is a mr koskin hamit koskin who himself is turkish but a very english

00:02:53.680 name he's turkish but i'm assuming he's an atheist uh because he did it outside of the turkish embassy

00:02:59.040 as a protest against erdogan and an act of solidarity with salwan momka momika an iraqi refugee who was

00:03:07.640 assassinated in sweden after burning quran's in repeated public protests so these are middle 1.00

00:03:12.320 easterners who are against islam and who want to protest islam and have decided that britain is the

00:03:17.380 best place to do it because i mean britain britain was the home of free speech wasn't it where does

00:03:22.300 the concept of free speech come from that's right it came from england so i mean yeah he must have read

00:03:27.580 he must have read aria pagatica he must have read on liberty and he must have been like well the

00:03:32.460 english are definitely going to protect my right to free speech so he comes over birds of 1.00

00:03:37.440 karad and the british coppers like oi oi oi except they say in pakistani whatever that is

00:03:43.060 and uh you can't be burning a quran around here mate that's harassing islam that's insulting islam 0.98

00:03:49.620 and he was like oh i guess i'm under arrest then and this is basically literally what has happened

00:03:55.220 so he's guilty of perhaps i don't know the man or his backstory but perhaps apostasy

00:03:59.380 but certainly blasphemy then well yeah that's blasphemy it is a blasphemy law by another name

00:04:06.440 and so remember back in february the government committed to free expression because a bunch of

00:04:14.020 the independent muslim mbs were tabling the idea sorry of uh of having blasphemy laws in britain

00:04:21.640 which were only formally abolished in 2008 but uh i guess if they're not really used very much then

00:04:27.140 because they used to be christian blasphemy laws from way back when sort of thing britain being a very

00:04:33.720 old state has a bunch of archaic laws and they were formally abolished in 2008 but they have come

00:04:39.100 back in an informal way because they have harmonized the concept of being of a religion with being brown

00:04:45.700 brown people have religion white people don't have religion and so you are racist against brown people

00:04:51.780 if you criticize their religion

00:04:53.300 and so perfect logic no flaws don't see any pitfalls or issues with that well i mean we we

00:05:01.480 literally have this and so the government back in february uh said they were going to quote protect the

00:05:07.540 right to free expression uh stating that no blasphemy laws will be introduced by this government and in a

00:05:13.540 technical way that's correct the blasphemy laws were already here they're just being say the cps are like

00:05:18.140 too late too late we've had that for years thank you exactly they were brought into uh they were

00:05:24.420 brought into legislation by the labor government but they weren't called blasphemy laws so who cares

00:05:30.140 bro right um so a cps spokesman said quote to the crown prosecution service said we charged hammett

00:05:36.640 koskin on the basis that his actions caused harassment alarm or distress which is a criminal offense

00:05:42.480 and this was motivated by hostility towards a religious or racial group so that's exactly it 0.90

00:05:48.880 he's harassing muslims by burning a quran all muslims everywhere 1.00

00:05:53.160 okay you can't you're not allowed to argue with the cps i think that the cps are absolutely correct 0.94

00:06:01.400 and i don't want them charging me with harassing an entire religious group of people for not having

00:06:07.520 respect for their holy book i mean that's mad right i doubt they would bring charges against

00:06:14.140 anyone that burn a bible no of course not of course they wouldn't go and burn a bible in public and no

00:06:20.060 one will care uh they say quote as part of our continuous review of ongoing cases we concluded that

00:06:25.140 the wording of the charge was incorrectly applied and we have substituted a new charge

00:06:28.660 to more accurately reflect the alleged offense so essentially what they're saying here is he is

00:06:33.280 harassing islam itself which is how people are taking this seems a bit fragile well i thought it

00:06:42.520 was the unalterable word of god straight from heaven what do they care if well you might think what do

00:06:49.120 they care but remember they are quite fragile and they don't take this kind of thing well and i just

00:06:56.200 want to be very clear right this this means that we basically have the same blasphemy laws as pakistan

00:07:00.320 right the in in effect we are still we are using exactly the same blasphemy laws as pakistan

00:07:06.680 which makes it a crime to disturb a religious assembly trespass and burial grounds insult religious

00:07:11.080 beliefs or intentionally destroy or defile a place or an object of worship the maximum punishment under

00:07:16.600 these laws is fine uh ranges from one year to 10 years in jail with and without a fine uh they were

00:07:21.780 expanded in 1980s uh in 1918 to make derogatory remarks against islamic personages an offense and in

00:07:29.580 1982 another clause prescribed life imprisonment for the willful destruction uh desecration sorry of

00:07:35.320 the quran and in 1986 a separate clause is inserted to punish blasphemy against the prophet muhammad

00:07:40.420 and the penalty recommended was death or imprisonment for life just to be clear this is in pakistan this

00:07:44.940 is in pakistan not in but yeah but that's the thing just to be clear this is in pakistan how do you

00:07:49.180 know well we don't have the death penalty so that's the only way i can tell that the difference between

00:07:54.160 them uh so basically we we've got the same blasphemy laws as pakistan uh the question is

00:07:59.900 just the length of sentence that's the only real difference uh will you get life imprisonment or

00:08:05.980 however long 10 years in jail for burning a quran no you'll probably get more let's be honest we treat 1.00

00:08:11.440 racially motivated crimes with incredible severity and so he's probably gonna get more than 10 years in

00:08:18.860 jail you think so i have no idea to be honest but i i am honestly skeptical that we will um do anything

00:08:24.880 sensible in this i mean he shouldn't be charged with anything obviously i mean why i'm even having

00:08:29.400 to say that it's kind of bizarre right yeah he bought a quran he burned his property 1.00

00:08:33.640 yeah yeah yeah of course yeah what more is there to say like did you was it your quran no well then 0.99

00:08:44.440 shut up but anyway that's me being uh an englishman i'm thinking about things that actually matter like 0.68

00:08:50.820 property rights anyway so one of the few people came i mean robert jenrich actually did come out

00:08:55.340 but i think rupert lode came out first so i'm gonna use rupert uh but rupert lode comes out and says look

00:09:00.760 this is britain we do not have blasphemy laws and we must not have blasphemy laws burning a quran is 1.00

00:09:05.240 not a crime free speech means protecting the right to offend including islam more politicians should have 1.00

00:09:10.200 the courage to say so how's he wrong both uh should be a completely milquetoast statement of fact

00:09:19.160 and ballsy of him to come out and say on twitter at the same time both those things yes right um what

00:09:25.840 a world we live in yeah yeah yeah no that's absolutely correct but i i like the um uncompromising

00:09:32.800 way that he puts this like look there there is no kowtowing to foreign moral systems there is the way

00:09:38.960 we do things and this is our country and therefore this is how things should be uh so this um as you can

00:09:45.840 see caught a lot of uh attention uh 1.4 million views at the time of writing and uh one of the

00:09:52.780 independent muslim mps for gaza decided to respond to this in complete agreement with

00:09:58.600 being a member of parliament being a british member of parliament being an honorable member

00:10:04.400 yes no it turns out that when you elect pakistani mps they hold pakistani values and so they act

00:10:11.600 like the mps for pakistan which is weird i know this is a big the magic soil worked in every other

00:10:18.760 case just not in adnan hussein's case i thought the passport and the magic soil and wearing a western

00:10:23.920 style suit has made you doesn't it doesn't does he not know about british values that's the question

00:10:29.080 right like british values tolerance is one of these values and you've got to tolerate that some people

00:10:34.220 want to burn a quran don't you what do i know right uh so anyway is that not his position uh the

00:10:40.620 independent mp muslim mp for blackburn uh who ran on the pro gaza platform uh says quote what rupa 0.63

00:10:47.920 actually wants to say is free speech means protecting the right to offend muslims yeah yeah yeah that's 1.00

00:10:54.160 right yep he didn't he didn't hide that like that that's not what he actually wants to say he he

00:11:00.720 literally says that free speech includes means protecting the right to offend including islam 1.00

00:11:05.360 that's literally word for word what rupert says and so yeah he the right to offend muslims that's 0.99

00:11:10.360 right and so rupert lowe just replies yes like again the one good mp we've got it's just like yeah

00:11:18.620 that's what that means what country did you think you were in yeah you're not an mp for pakistan

00:11:23.500 actually how have you found yourself in this position where you're acting like an mp for pakistan

00:11:27.700 uh so he says yeah i believe and say well yeah we'll get to it rupert says yes i i do believe

00:11:33.000 the right to offend muslims must be protective the right to offend anyone must be protected which is 0.84

00:11:37.420 true obviously you know i mean i can be offended by a bunch of things people say but i'm not saying

00:11:42.060 they should go to jail obviously uh and so adnan says well well well it's deeply worrying rupert that

00:11:51.120 you invest so much energy into advocating for the right to offend a minority community 1.00

00:11:54.820 well i mean if you're part of that minority community and you're trying to express

00:12:00.600 a kind of quranic set of laws and values over the majority population for example i mean this

00:12:05.400 probably isn't in line with the sharia right so yeah i guess it's deeply worrying to him as an mp for

00:12:11.780 pakistan but as an englishman i find it deeply worrying that rupert has to even express any of these

00:12:18.000 values at all which we completely assumed it's deeply worrying is it yeah for you yeah is it

00:12:24.180 deeply worrying yeah for whom and uh you're saying it's deeply worrying that someone dare

00:12:29.360 stand up for freedom of expression yes freedom of of thought freedom of speech freedom of action

00:12:36.860 yeah exactly uh but what's interesting is the way he's kind of flipped this around so he's a bit

00:12:41.620 philosophically confused here but uh who could be surprised he says free speech comes with

00:12:45.820 limitations and protections clearly you're not happy with those protections extending to a muslim

00:12:50.480 minority it's like no no no no no no no that's not how that works right so what you're saying is

00:12:56.100 free speech must prevent the consequences of the speech from harming or affecting the muslim minority

00:13:02.900 but that's not what that means what it means is that muslims are allowed to say things i find

00:13:07.600 offensive and not go to jail so in fact the protections from free speech do apply to the muslim minority

00:13:13.700 it just doesn't protect your feelings from what has been said it's that simple but the thing is

00:13:19.300 i don't think uh this is an entirely good faith argument that he's making anyway i was going to

00:13:25.300 say that none of this is in good faith whatsoever from his side obviously nice to see he's getting

00:13:31.020 ratioed into oblivion absolute oblivion what 39 000 likes to 2 800 likes yes and to his 351 just

00:13:40.480 after but anyway rupert replies to this as well uh and says uh you know it's it's the establishment's

00:13:47.060 total unwillingness to criticize islam in any form that has paved the way for your absurd attitude it's

00:13:52.820 arrogant it's entitled it's sinister the approach has to change utterly uncompromising again 15 000

00:13:59.880 likes on that i just i can i mean i can't describe how much i agree with rupert lowe on this i'm so

00:14:06.480 glad to see we have at least one parliamentarian now you know we know what the muslim community is

00:14:11.600 like when it comes to strident criticism so um i hope things go okay in the future anyway so even

00:14:18.320 lefties were like uh not sure about this bro because now this is dennis he's got me blocked on twitter

00:14:26.100 so i don't i don't know who that is he's the director of the gay men's network okay so he's a he's a

00:14:33.200 lefty right uh but he's like a bit worrying this uh freedom to offend against any religion is pretty

00:14:38.360 consistent common law right uh and one the high court jealously and ferociously protects yeah well

00:14:43.140 we'll see what the supreme court says about that won't we uh surprising to see an mp uncomfortable

00:14:47.980 with that and presumably more comfortable with de facto blasphemy provisions

00:14:51.100 he is an independent muslim mp for gaza he supports the pakistani style blasphemy laws being introduced

00:15:00.880 in britain why is everyone surprised by this i throw out the insult fifth columnist on twitter

00:15:08.320 and on this podcast a fair bit uh hopefully always if the shoe fits right yeah like sorry this case

00:15:16.560 that adnan hussein seems to be the very very perfect definition of a fifth columnist i mean he

00:15:25.020 wants pakistani style blasphemy laws in britain he is a pakistani man who became an mp on a purely

00:15:31.700 muslim interest because the muslim community in the place that he lives is large enough to elect their

00:15:39.480 own mps i mean i don't know i mean what else would a fifth columnist look like right seriously

00:15:46.540 what would the difference be and so okay so what's adnan's response to this like what do you say well

00:15:54.520 i'm uncomfortable with racism oh and there it is and there it is and racism yeah exactly you know

00:16:04.220 what adnan i'm uncomfortable with you calling for blasphemy laws now what you know we can all be

00:16:09.700 uncomfortable together yeah exactly exactly i don't i don't care if you think this is racist i just don't

00:16:15.480 care and what's interesting is i mean you know everyone's everyone's in the replies being like

00:16:20.760 well hang on a second how is this racism how is this racism yeah islam isn't a race exactly you know

00:16:27.160 it's just yeah i mean exactly you get this it's it's not a race and ideology but remember the the

00:16:32.840 british government interpolates islam as an expression of brownness right they know they really 0.99

00:16:38.800 do right they and i don't mean to sound crass about it but to them islam is a uh an ethnic minority 0.98

00:16:46.000 coded religion right and therefore because they associate islam entirely with brown people criticism

00:16:53.100 of this sincerely held belief by brown people it's a form of racism to them and okay well that means that 1.00

00:16:59.680 we're not allowed to criticize islam because as adnan points out that's racism it's funny because you can 1.00

00:17:06.320 have of course white muslims of course western converts or even like albanians i was just gonna

00:17:11.600 say albanians yeah or like people from kosovo or whatever yeah um it's just it's an ideology but the

00:17:17.780 point is it's it's been sort of circumscribed for a community of people who are just not white and so

00:17:26.280 this makes it a racialized issue and people from the muslim community are quite happy to racialize the 1.00

00:17:32.120 issue and say right criticizing my belief system no matter how bonkers you might find it is racial

00:17:37.840 hatred towards me and that means that i don't ever have to answer the criticisms i don't have to justify

00:17:42.340 my religion i don't have to explain why it's good or bad or right or wrong and it means that i can just

00:17:47.080 do whatever the hell i like and you don't get to criticize me uh and so there were lots of people

00:17:51.620 responding to this you can imagine what the quote tweets were like here's one quote tweet from mike

00:17:55.420 graham absolute banger if i'm uncomfortable with rapism he says in response to this

00:18:01.880 i've been a bit rude i was rude to mike graham i've been rude to mike graham but but um this is a

00:18:11.660 banger he's far from all bad and that's yeah that's a banger i mean i don't even know if mike

00:18:18.400 understands what he's saying here i'm sure he does i'm sure he does yeah but this is this is a spicy

00:18:25.420 tweet anyway so uh 28 000 likes on that mike that's a 2800 done quite well that's done pretty

00:18:33.820 well there mike that's that's funny um anyway moving on so dan dan adnan i can't pronounce these

00:18:42.280 names uh says well look frankly i find it quite sinister that you invest so much time in energy

00:18:45.940 chris says muslims very sinister in fact given your position and influence uh it's like well i guess 1.00

00:18:51.100 rupert just doesn't want to encourage what comes with pakistani blasphemy laws right because what

00:18:56.680 comes with pakistani blasphemy laws is lynch mobs someone i mean this is only from 2024 this is only

00:19:02.320 from last year right but there are loads and loads of these where someone gets accused of burning a

00:19:08.560 quran and then a mob in pakistan breaks into the police station drags the guy out and stones him to 0.95

00:19:13.660 death in the street yeah no i i i find that sinister actually yeah i find that pretty damn 0.50

00:19:19.000 sinister uh given your position of influence uh why you would want this logical consequence of your

00:19:25.760 home country to come to british shores i don't want this well we even see in some places in england

00:19:31.360 on a very very small scale but it's the kernel of something which will grow is sort of a type of

00:19:36.320 sharia law on on the streets i've seen i've seen clips in places like uh leeds and london or wherever

00:19:42.140 bradford where there's uh like morality put islamic morality on the street and they're asking women 0.99

00:19:47.780 why why isn't your head covered yeah you're in a muslim area stuff like that yeah and yeah this is

00:19:53.740 just obviously much much much more extreme one of the most harrowing video i don't watch gore or snuff

00:19:59.280 i actively i've seen a few a bit in my time and i act sometimes they come across your timeline yeah

00:20:05.980 exactly uh but one of the one of the worst ones i remember seeing some some woman i think she was 1.00

00:20:10.280 either afghanistan or iraq and the local guy at the mosque had accused her of something she hadn't

00:20:17.240 actually done it oh the accusation she'd just been accused of something and uh yeah she was stoned

00:20:21.920 and it was horror it was real horror well i mean that's what's and and yeah that is a logical

00:20:29.480 that's what happened end point of what adnan hussein is advocating for yes yeah yeah and but what's

00:20:35.120 interesting is the guy had been arrested because of course blasphemy laws in pakistan the police went and

00:20:39.740 arrested him but the mob just broke into the police station anyway dragged him out to the street and

00:20:42.860 killed him it's like okay that's that's some apparently that is not worthy of criticism to

00:20:48.660 a dad hussein uh rupert lowe saying you know maybe we shouldn't criminalize this that's the thing

00:20:55.500 worthy of criticism that's sinister yeah that's sinister even though that will directly lead to that

00:21:00.420 and in fact this is the consequence of what he's asking for so uh rupert responded to this just

00:21:06.800 saying quote every poli almost every politician is too frightened to frightened to utter a single

00:21:10.900 criticism of islam i'm not that's not sinister and sinister adnan i can't pronounce the name

00:21:16.720 it's necessary and so what rupert did in response is table a motion to defend freedom of speech

00:21:23.060 in parliament uh is including the right to reject mock or criticize religious ideas islam included

00:21:29.340 britain must never return to blasphemy laws i judge every mp who believes in free expression 0.52

00:21:33.200 support my motion and actually some tory mps did support it uh you've got charlie duehurst here who

00:21:41.600 supports this you've got bradley thomas who supports this and uh peter bedford who supports this so

00:21:48.640 there are still some good conservative mps now what what party isn't rupert supporting this

00:21:56.000 did you see what rupert's put out it said it's against blasphemy laws do you think maybe reform

00:22:05.560 could be against blasphemy laws maybe did they not no nothing crickets or at least if they have i

00:22:11.940 haven't seen it right you know so it's just okay complete crickets because obviously rupert was just

00:22:16.800 posting this on his time this is who's supporting this great uh so a couple of good conservative mps and

00:22:22.160 zero as far as i've seen correct me if i'm wrong uh from reform brilliant yeah they kicked out the

00:22:30.820 one ballsy mp they had and now they're just going to do normal centrist milquetoast things like

00:22:35.700 allowing the blasphemy laws in britain to continue i just thought we'd end this on christian's famous

00:22:40.400 speech in 2009 this crossed my mind a number of times i bet it did yeah this is very urgent business

00:22:48.180 ladies and gentlemen i beseech you resist it while you still can and before the right to complain is

00:22:53.900 taken away from you which will be the next thing you will be told you can't complain because you're

00:23:00.160 islamophobic the term is already being introduced into the culture as if it was an accusation of race

00:23:07.220 hatred for example or or bigotry whereas it's only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme

00:23:13.500 and absolutist religion watch out for these symptoms they are not just symptoms of surrender

00:23:17.680 very often ecumenically offered to you by men of god in other robes christian

00:23:22.920 and jewish and smarmy ecumenical these are the these are the ones who hold open the gates 1.00

00:23:28.280 for the barbarians the barbarians never take a city till someone 0.93

00:23:31.700 holds the gates open for them and it's your own preachers who will do it for you and your own

00:23:36.840 multicultural authorities who will do it for you resist resist it while you can 1.00

00:23:43.100 so so prophetic we have arrived at the point that christians prophesied 16 years later where we have

00:23:53.480 now what are just effectively being used as blasphemy laws and muslim mps who are supporting 0.89

00:23:59.120 these blasphemy laws and there's no great action being taken against them 1.00

00:24:03.740 don't insult islam you'll go to jail let's read some comments um britain isn't a christian country

00:24:14.260 but we probably should be working on making it one blasphemy laws included i'll settle for a

00:24:18.580 christianophobia awareness month well i mean technically it kind of is right because the king 0.99

00:24:23.780 is still the head of the church of england pat says it's an epochs reunion carl is there any topic

00:24:28.560 you would come back and do another epochs of bow uh lots it's just my it's about time for me

00:24:33.380 you know like i'm just constantly doing things and i don't have time to do epochs it's not i didn't

00:24:38.280 enjoy doing so i love doing epochs that's a random name says i'm exhausted in having to live in such

00:24:42.780 feminist societies nobody is allowed to do anything fear of offending everyone uh the real problem must 1.00

00:24:48.020 be ignored like one giant longhouse yes that was entirely what my segment about was about yesterday

00:24:52.960 we must overthrow the den mother i'm not joking we must return to perseus okay we've got to be 1.00

00:25:01.500 overthrowing the den mothers uh matt says uh would it have been less of an issue if we'd wrap the

00:25:06.200 union jack before setting on fire that'd be an interesting thing to find out and that's a random

00:25:13.620 name also just the culture is representative of its people so is the religion muslims treat every 0.74

00:25:17.920 interaction as a smear on their honor they lose their tempers over the smallest things exhausting yes

00:25:22.420 indeed is this not an unspoken revocation of the act of toleration of 1689 yeah that doubtless would

00:25:28.080 have been superseded at some point during the 20th century so for hundreds of years it would yeah for

00:25:33.240 hundreds of years it would have been completely acceptable and normal and a part of british legal

00:25:38.340 culture and then in the 1980s someone would have done something about it lloyd george or churchill

00:25:43.600 probably well so whoever yeah whoever yeah if rupert lowe said the sky was blue nigel would actually 0.97

00:25:48.520 begin seeing the skies red yes probably uh mass immigration rape gangs uh terrorist attacks 1.00

00:25:54.140 ethnic replacement and the suppression of literally any peaceful opposition they're too stupid or 1.00

00:25:58.340 malicious to realize this is how war starts well speaking of that let's talk about what the future 0.99

00:26:03.540 holds for us i think it's time for us to have a frank conversation about the results of mass immigration

00:26:13.720 multiculturalism but we need to have a frank conversation about it as the type of conversation

00:26:20.180 you won't get uh from channel four news from kathy newman from laura koenigsberg from the bbc

00:26:30.600 from jane o'brien sangeeta miska uh but we can do it here at the lotus eaters yes we can um

00:26:38.660 it's a real world problem the reality is butting up against the leftist narrative the multicultural

00:26:45.980 narrative and um i mean the question i want to i want to talk about is the criticism that people

00:26:53.580 like us get from the yasmin alabani browns of this world is that the reason why we've got any 1.00

00:27:01.280 problem with multiculturalism when we talk about how demographics are destiny why we're worried we

00:27:07.380 might become a minority in our own ancestral homeland by 2050 or 2060 or whenever it is the only reason 1.00

00:27:12.220 why we care about that is it's just blind bigotry it's just simply because we're racist we can't

00:27:19.820 stand to be near brown people that's the reason why according to them yeah and no not at all no 0.99

00:27:28.280 it's much much more than that it's much deeper than that it it spells it leads the way it's the thin

00:27:35.360 end of the wedge towards horror and and people say wasn't though just a quick thing even if it

00:27:42.160 wasn't there's still not an argument for us to give up our patrimony sure right my children deserve to

00:27:47.340 live in england my grandchildren deserve to live in england even if the multicultural utopia came about 1.00

00:27:53.320 that's not what we should be passing down to them a homogenous society with very low crime

00:27:58.260 higher higher yeah but but the the the questions of of statistics i want to take off the table very

00:28:03.680 quickly we'll come back to them because they are incredibly pressing but i just want to make clear

00:28:07.780 that i i am in principle even if it could be shown that multiculturalism made crime go down

00:28:13.460 well it doesn't matter because metaphysically we had a thing called england and we should be passing

00:28:20.100 the integrity of that across the future generations you know we we inherited it in a really good condition

00:28:25.700 when we were boys and look at the state of it now and that that is something that has persisted for

00:28:31.200 over a thousand years and actually it's deeply irresponsible of us to just give this away to

00:28:36.300 foreign people like they don't deserve it there's no they didn't work for it they didn't protect it 1.00

00:28:40.880 they didn't inherit it why are we just giving this away and i would feel the same about any other

00:28:45.100 country like if the greeks started giving away greece to whoever like but this is yours it's not

00:28:51.100 theirs you have a possessiveness about it that you for some reason have abandoned

00:28:55.160 so even if all of the all of the reasons were were correct i still wouldn't agree but like you're

00:29:02.000 correctly pointing out it ain't going to be the utopia because the nightmare future i worry about

00:29:08.120 is one that's just sort of an endless string of sectarian religious racial ethnic conflict

00:29:16.620 uh that britain turns into uh the yugoslavia of the 1990s or worse turns into the south africa

00:29:24.800 of today lebanon or lebanon or any number of examples that that happens in britain because

00:29:30.780 that's the trajectory we're on now again our detractors our political enemies will say well

00:29:36.580 that just speaks of something in me which is which i don't like racial violence that yeah that that i

00:29:43.460 somehow want that to to be no no the absolute opposite i'm trying to prevent that from happening

00:29:50.300 i remember describing this to someone once before someone i know very well and a few weeks later like

00:29:56.460 there might be a religious war an ethnic war if this goes on in the end something like yugoslavia

00:30:02.000 a few weeks later they mentioned oh that race war you want i was like no it's the opposite yeah it's

00:30:10.260 the absolute opposite i'm talking about this now because it's the nightmare i don't want and the

00:30:14.960 thing is it looks like it's the nightmare that is rapidly approaching i mean we saw it in leicester

00:30:18.700 in 2022 right and this was just when it suddenly peaked on everyone's radars where large gangs of

00:30:24.820 muslims and hindus were stomping through the streets attacking each other and there are each other's 1.00

00:30:28.660 buildings and oh india and makistan have gone to war now well what's already happening protests

00:30:33.500 outside their embassies and i'm sure it's going to stop there you know and at the moment it's basically

00:30:37.540 just saber rattling between them but if it gets more intense i mean who knows where it goes right

00:30:42.580 well that example of leicester from a couple of years a couple of years ago now um that example

00:30:47.580 is sort of a great example but we have the low level stuff all the time how many times are there

00:30:53.320 sort of small two three four five on five machete fights in the street between various peoples that

00:31:00.980 have got conflicts in their in their own land you know and it spills out onto streets of

00:31:05.020 essex or brighton you know i saw bradford or whatever i saw this this headline that was um

00:31:10.560 a bunch of croydon men who are of course african descent african heritage men who had burst into a

00:31:19.640 cannabis farm that was run by albanians with machetes right the thing is the albanians had guns 0.88

00:31:25.380 and so the albania and this was in croydon the albanians gun them down uh so great this is this is what

00:31:32.180 the future of britain looks like rule of thumb never turn up to an albanian gunfight with a

00:31:36.780 machete basically yes that was the joke everyone was making oh really yeah yeah because it's so

00:31:41.000 obviously correct yeah uh but it's like okay but i don't i don't want this the lists are endless you've

00:31:45.500 got like uh christian nigerians fighting muslim nigerians oh it's the endless endless examples of 0.97

00:31:52.620 this so this is the sort of the logical conclusion of this is where it just goes on and on and on until

00:31:59.540 the native brits are a tiny minority in their own countries all the cities have been completely

00:32:06.020 abandoned you've got just rural pockets rural enclaves of native brits left and they have to be 1.00

00:32:14.480 guarded gated communities like in south africa um and it's just it's just a hell it's just a living 0.56

00:32:21.480 hell yes and moreover you'll get the sort of south africanization of britain in which it's not just

00:32:27.420 the demographic change that will matter it's that it's going to be failing infrastructure it's going

00:32:32.820 to be failing services failing power supplies you'll get rolling blackouts you'll get areas of the

00:32:37.860 country that are maintained by british natives that work and the the majority foreign population now

00:32:46.920 around us will be envious of that they'll be resentful it's like how is it you ended up on

00:32:52.200 the magic soil that provides all the abundance we need to get in there now to take advantage of that

00:32:57.700 and so they're constantly there'll be constant attacks on these communities as you're seeing at

00:33:02.240 the moment with orania it's like orania oh it's it's a prosperous homogenous uh safe place and it's

00:33:09.040 being treated as if this is stealing prosperity from the wider community in south africa it's i know

00:33:15.820 you could change your ways at any time but you don't and instead you scapegoat this community

00:33:21.900 yeah yeah i mean you sort of kind of laid out um the gavin bovey aka muskbuster view of it that

00:33:29.780 when our cities are completely lost to to foreign people they'll become like they become like a 1.00

00:33:36.320 bangladeshi city yeah i mean like the birmingham is nothing works and it's a giant trash pile yeah exactly 1.00

00:33:41.460 just rubbish everywhere and nothing works all the infrastructure is gone um and and like in south

00:33:48.140 africa they just that just makes them even more resentful of the our enclaves that do still function 1.00

00:33:53.480 somehow we have stolen this from them and people say again our our our enemies uh you know lbc or

00:34:02.280 whoever or at the bbc or channel 4 whatever it is or politics joe the cretins at politics joe

00:34:09.300 um they will say we're just being paranoid that's not going to happen you're being you're being over

00:34:15.020 the top why is it i can point to it in process why is it i can point to birmingham right now

00:34:19.720 like when from lbc tom swarbeck went went down to birmingham trying to interview some people so why

00:34:25.320 they think this happened he couldn't find an englishman obviously they're all foreign and none

00:34:29.780 of them would speak to him probably because a lot of them didn't understand his language and he was

00:34:33.200 just he looked despondent he was just like well i don't know what to say it's like yeah

00:34:38.120 yeah thanks yeah yeah good you know this is what you supported all of this time right up until the

00:34:43.640 point where you're looking around birmingham going why is this happening bro well one sort of symptom

00:34:48.500 or one small example and it is only one example is this that did the rounds uh the other day

00:34:53.500 everyone from paul joseph watson on down uh mentioning it uh this is a tweet from patrick christie

00:34:59.460 is instantly my favorite oh he's brilliant he's actually based i think yes um i noticed that today

00:35:05.520 he was tweeting why are they here in response to a bunch of stuff and that's my line yeah you know

00:35:10.300 i've been the one for the last two years why are they here why are they here we need a reason that

00:35:14.060 they're here and uh it's it's filtered up to patrick now which is nice well this one example if you

00:35:18.880 play this samson or carl if you do it just play it just just just the symbolism of it just the the

00:35:24.480 optics yeah we don't need to hear the dreadful rap you got this georgia flag in the background you got

00:35:35.260 the nice english town the the green the village green there can you imagine the little kids not

00:35:41.480 long ago even when we were children um completely high trust society no violence hardly any crime

00:35:47.240 almost an idyllic little village town and this guy and this guy no why is he here like seriously

00:35:56.160 what is the reason that we have him here but do we think he's contributing to the gdp do we

00:36:00.660 i mean like i looked this up the other day he's obviously somalian 41 of somalians are even

00:36:06.260 literate in their own language so like what percentage of them read and write english probably

00:36:11.760 not very many they're probably not going to be filling out the offices where we need workers

00:36:15.620 to pay for pensions i don't think these are the guys you know well i wonder what people that aren't

00:36:22.300 already a bit based think if when they see this what do they think like does ash sarkar think this is

00:36:29.180 winning is this what winning looks like okay okay so for ash sarkar yes because she's got a deep

00:36:33.980 ethnic resentment against the english right so for ash sarkar yes having him here is winning right 0.98

00:36:38.640 but it's not it's not the ash sarkars of the world we need to persuade right it is the led by donkeys 0.65

00:36:45.320 right what do they think what does ed davy think yeah what does the centrist dad think exactly when

00:36:50.760 he sees this what does the ipa drinking like bristolian think of this is this winning to you you know

00:36:56.920 do you want more of this on your streets or do you want less of this what do the blue haired 0.63

00:37:01.360 volunteers care for calais well they're they're in favor they probably would be they probably have 0.99

00:37:06.040 sex with them but yeah as you say the the no i'm not even yeah yeah but though yeah like the 0.97

00:37:11.740 centrist dad types who actually don't want their society ruined they actually don't want england 0.98

00:37:17.220 annihilated at every possible level yes but are but do still think of themselves as liberal or lefty

00:37:23.980 politically or people that think that there's nothing particularly wrong with open borders and

00:37:28.180 all that sort of thing when they see this then yeah do you want him wandering near your schools

00:37:32.980 or in the end completely taking over that that town that little village yeah wherever it is

00:37:39.780 because i mean is that what you want that's what's gonna happen the people who are there will be like

00:37:43.560 i don't really want this i'm going to move and they'll move and so the houses become free the

00:37:48.100 government will put in more people and literally replace the population there and so

00:37:52.460 this town will become another birmingham what good is that why did we do this yeah

00:37:57.760 this is what you want the trustees at running me trust uh running me trust you happy now again i

00:38:03.780 think they are actually happy i think they're the wrong people i think these people genuinely hate 0.79

00:38:07.960 the english and want them destroyed right nick lowles licking his lips yeah exactly like nick lowles 0.84

00:38:12.440 thrilled no point appealing to him but to those yeah like i think i don't think the politics joe's

00:38:17.920 guys are that bad like i think they i mean maybe they are but i don't think they're entirely that

00:38:23.180 bad and i think it's those people so look this is the future is is this what you want for your own

00:38:27.080 children this one for my children is this what is this one um ed davy wants you know is this is this

00:38:33.020 what any of them actually want because this is what they're getting and this comes like you're saying

00:38:37.520 with a whole host of problems i mean ultimately we end up going down the route of lebanon yugoslavia

00:38:42.540 and south africa why would that be good yeah what have you done here yeah i mean if we look at the

00:38:50.760 example of yugoslavia in the 90s you know it's held together sort of during the soviet period with

00:38:57.300 tito and stuff but tito's extreme anti-nationalism where he would literally criminalize any um persecute

00:39:04.060 any amount of nationalistic sentiment because that's how you keep that kind of empire together

00:39:09.520 and the second it falls apart what happens boom breaks into highly parochial national states that

00:39:15.720 go to war with one another yeah so like yugoslavia is like the land of the south slavs or whatever and 0.85

00:39:21.360 um yeah so once tito died um it started falling apart and by the 90s just endless sectarian and

00:39:28.640 religious and ethnic warfare broke down into what like uh uh slovenia serbia montenegro macedonia

00:39:37.480 croatia bosnia herzegovina yeah and and what that meant is and genocides i was gonna say

00:39:44.320 genocidal pogroms yeah they they oh you've got a community of this type of people living in this area

00:39:50.660 not anymore you don't because we're going to come in and murder them all and you think that won't 0.93

00:39:54.780 happen in britain because multiculturalism does not work it's a pipe dream it's a lie it's a pipe dream

00:40:01.100 it has never worked no and it's multiculturalism is can only be the doctrine of empire as well

00:40:07.660 is it's never oh look at all these cultures all equally hanging around together and having fun

00:40:12.720 no what it is is it's one over culture imposing its will on the rest and the rest essentially

00:40:18.300 chafing under the yoke of it and once that yoke is broken they burst apart into their ethnic 1.00

00:40:24.740 enclaves and then purge any of the strangers that are among them i'm i don't want this i just don't

00:40:30.240 know why we're creating the conditions for this in britain yeah well i think because there's two

00:40:36.340 types of people there's there's like the ash sarkars who actively want it the lisa nandies

00:40:40.420 who actually want i'm not sure if i go as far as say lisa nandy wants it ash sarkar i would 0.95

00:40:46.440 but i don't know if lisa nandy i think lisa nandy might just be a moron so 1.00

00:40:50.120 because the thing is i think a lot a lot of a lot of the people who are in favor of this are just 0.97

00:40:55.820 morons right or loads of them will just refuse like our mp here heidi alexander will just refuse 1.00

00:41:02.340 to address it yes that's the next thing i want to talk about is that i asked what do the what do 0.72

00:41:07.200 people think when they see that or any example of that machete fights between two groups of

00:41:12.800 foreigners on british streets what do they think when they say well most of them will just refuse 1.00

00:41:17.680 to address it it's like it's not happening it's like it's invisible to them also it's like our mind

00:41:22.160 because they haven't got it like the leftist people at navarra or politics joe that you know

00:41:26.460 they would be like well we just need more hate speech legislation and tax the rich yeah that that 0.97

00:41:32.500 will fix it if only they were given some of your money they'd stop doing this it's just you know

00:41:36.400 they need youth clubs if only he had more ping pong access to ping pong tables and and pool tables

00:41:41.920 yeah they wouldn't be like this then the pakistani gangs and the african gangs wouldn't be 0.99

00:41:46.160 macheting each other in birmingham so their world view is opposed is at odds with reality this reality

00:41:55.360 yes and this reality is orders of magnitude more powerful their world view cannot win against it

00:42:03.760 it will not win against it it's just how far down that road of horror do we go that's that's all and

00:42:11.060 honestly this is the question the young people need to answer right so notice that all of the people

00:42:15.600 we're talking about were kind of brought up in the safe homogenous and controlled environment of

00:42:23.540 the early 2000s right so during the sort of blairite years where britain was prospering

00:42:27.880 we were still something like you know 95 percent british and everything was normal right we had

00:42:34.420 inherited the the long the long build-up of social capital over generations over two three hundred years

00:42:41.740 where we created the modern world provided for ourselves a very safe place and then we end up

00:42:48.660 having these discussions in the early 2000s when nothing really matters because one of the things

00:42:52.920 about early 2000s culture that is very very apparent in this day and age is how naff it was it's just

00:42:58.200 naff it's just like it's the in-betweeners right where everything's frivolous because you live in a

00:43:02.620 account you live on a middle-class estate and nothing ever happens here there's never any crime here

00:43:07.400 because all of the people around are totally well socialized they you know they're normal right and

00:43:12.880 so the you know you've known for years then of course they don't commit crimes they wouldn't even

00:43:17.620 think about stealing from a shop or something let alone any kind of serious violent crime and so

00:43:22.520 everything becomes like in between this is like the last corner the capstone of this where it's like 0.98

00:43:27.280 it's just naff for naff's sake and this everything's naff everything's crap and everything's just 0.63

00:43:32.080 non-serious and that world is changing right so the sort of ed davy appealing to that constituency 0.99

00:43:39.020 can prat around he can go on like water slides and ice skating or whatever you know stupid things he 0.92

00:43:45.020 does because he's appealing to the early 2000s consensus people yet we're in the end of history 0.97

00:43:49.980 we're the blairites we're we're just going to do the right things blah blah blah blah and for him he

00:43:54.760 can prat around because his constituency lives in a fairly nice area they've got a fairly good job they

00:44:00.880 probably earn about 60k a year something like that they've got quite a nice house their wife has 0.98

00:44:05.080 also a job probably about 56k a year they've got degrees their kids are going to a nice school

00:44:09.680 none of this is their problem but it is definitely going to come for them oh yeah and so it's in the

00:44:15.460 mail it's it's it's on its way you know and so coming to a tiny village near you yeah and this is

00:44:21.020 why i hate the stewart lees of the world i did a video yesterday talking about is you know you can't

00:44:25.580 even say you're english or you get locked up and it's like yeah but that was in 2009 but that what's the

00:44:30.740 guy saying there what he's saying is i feel the country has been taken away from me and i feel

00:44:35.240 that i'm the second class citizen and look at it now like yeah no we are actively the second class

00:44:40.280 citizens now and so stewart being like oh i'm being so sarcastic about it because he in his middle

00:44:45.700 class bubble i'm doing well i don't have any of these problems so i can pour condescension on you

00:44:50.500 for being worried about something that's on its way that's coming down the pipeline and now here we

00:44:54.740 are and we're living with the reality of it so young people really have to sit there and think

00:44:58.360 okay but this is my future right like you know i'm 45 i'm doing fine i'm probably not getting

00:45:04.400 machete guy down my street at least not for a while but if you're a young person and you can't really

00:45:09.980 afford the rent so you've got to live somewhere crappy and cheap and you're struggling to get

00:45:14.020 jobs well the this is your reality right now right and it's going to be your reality and it's going to

00:45:19.460 get worse in the next 10 20 30 years how long do you expect to be here how long do you expect to

00:45:24.160 live you know if you if you intended to live in england for your life you've got 60 years of

00:45:29.100 this and it's not going to get any better so good luck that's why i we many other people now talk

00:45:36.160 about re-migration yeah just openly unashamedly and because it's that or it's south africa yugoslavia

00:45:44.260 hell it's one or the other douglas carswell on new culture forum just said it straight up it's like

00:45:50.060 yeah fine call me a racist then yeah because it's i'd much rather that than just watch

00:45:56.880 england turn into south africa yeah i mean whatever you know call me whatever you like

00:46:01.980 why are these people here yeah i mean and the the thing is as well there are some obvious candidates

00:46:07.880 like uh sam bidwell wrote a great article for the telegraph the other day saying look

00:46:11.340 the five-year indefinite leave to remain thing is an issue because the boris wave who just came as

00:46:17.580 essentially is total mercenaries uh are going to be allowed to live here forever in a couple of

00:46:23.540 years time so we should really be thinking about revoking their visas and sending them home because 1.00

00:46:27.940 boris shouldn't have just allowed something like six million people from around the world just come

00:46:32.640 during the covid pandemic why did he allow this why was this done to us they don't belong here they

00:46:38.160 haven't got a place here and they shouldn't be here they should be sent home and that's pretty

00:46:42.860 straightforward like why are they here because we made another good point on that as well saying um

00:46:47.400 there's nothing there's nothing written in stone that you can't take people's 0.58

00:46:51.200 passports away from them we gave them to you so we can take them away exactly send you home 1.00

00:46:56.140 anything done by anything done by administrative fiat can be undone by administrative fiat

00:47:00.800 and one of the last arguments they always use um like lucy powell is that it's just a dog whistle

00:47:06.700 uh that by even mentioning by even bringing this up and even mentioning the possibility of that

00:47:13.000 nightmare future that's just a dog whistle that's just a far right fantasy or something

00:47:17.360 uh and the um yeah it just speaks of our black hearts and it's well there we go i mean maybe i

00:47:26.600 just care more about my children than i do from this chap from somalia right and the thing the thing

00:47:31.720 that always annoys me most about this is as if sorry they have countries of their own that's where

00:47:37.660 they came from they came from their own country and they've come here because we're going to give 1.00

00:47:41.760 them free stuff that's the reason they're here it's kind of as simple as that isn't it it really

00:47:46.320 is as simple as that i mean 71 of somalis wouldn't be in social housing if that wasn't the case right

00:47:51.300 and i'm signaling out somalis just because that number was so high but it's the same in like so many

00:47:55.680 of the number you know just you know they see the kevin just like why am i paying for half of like

00:48:00.400 you know jamaicans to live in this country on social housing why are we doing this what's the point of 1.00

00:48:06.740 this you know why are we paying i mean why is any foreigner allowed access to any benefits 1.00

00:48:11.500 why are we doing that what would be the point and the answer honestly is for them for the left is

00:48:17.900 oh we're trying to uphold the universal doctrine of human rights it's like okay i don't care about

00:48:22.000 that i care about the fact that you're ruining my country and i have to pay for it i don't want to

00:48:26.240 pay for this privilege i would rather these people just get sent home where they came from which is 0.81

00:48:30.420 you know where their original passport is from and again this is not like some sort of form of 0.82

00:48:34.140 depression they were born and raised there i mean how old's this bloody guy you know i mean

00:48:38.620 how long has he been in britain you know i mean like probably not that long he's probably 35 or

00:48:43.380 something he came here two years ago he can just go back to where he came from yeah no problem yeah

00:48:47.880 it's yeah he'll just go back to oh yeah how to work out in britain well not great i got some

00:48:51.980 benefits though so here's some money yeah like who cares right and so yeah just it's also so that

00:48:56.800 someone like emily thornberry or yeah or lisa nandy or whoever can can gloat about it so that tony

00:49:05.020 blair can confirm that he's rubbing our noses in diversity i mean nose fully rubbed yeah point

00:49:11.760 consider our noses rubbed in it yeah you won on that score tone thanks a lot buddy yeah um okay so i just

00:49:20.000 feel like the question of remigration mass remigration the question of i think it might

00:49:28.620 be worth just emphasizing what we mean here um i it is desirable to incentivize these people to go home

00:49:34.440 now there there there are a lot hook up i crook sure but i think taking a moderate approach is much

00:49:42.280 more success more likely to be successful than a hardline approach so i can see you wincing already but

00:49:48.580 well no it's just again how far down that road where there's tiny enclaves of native brits and

00:49:53.720 it's sure and i agree that a nightmare yeah but we've got to be in the position we're in right

00:49:58.340 and so i think the the because the ed davies of the world will not accept you know deportation squads

00:50:07.280 breaking into houses and just grabbing someone and then chucking them off cliffs of dover or something

00:50:10.640 right they're not going to accept that but what i think they could accept is we're not going to give

00:50:16.280 benefits to foreigners right that's the first step no one who was born overseas will ever ever be 1.00

00:50:21.360 eligible for benefits in britain now that's going to get millions of them to just pack up and leave

00:50:26.440 they will just say yeah well i was here for the benefits so i'm not going to stay hopefully i

00:50:31.620 absolutely would because we're not going to be paying for them to live here i'm not entirely i mean

00:50:36.040 hopefully but i'm just not entirely convinced that because even without benefits living in a kind of

00:50:40.860 crappy birmingham is still way better than living in rural you know what you say that bangladesh 1.00

00:50:45.340 it's true right so i've seen videos of them literally saying like they what they'll do is

00:50:50.660 in this tiktok video put up a picture of their house in birmingham and then a much nicer looking

00:50:55.200 house in pakistan or bangladesh or wherever and it's like and it's like okay why are you here and

00:51:00.000 the answer is remittances right they send money back home so they're here specifically to extract wealth

00:51:05.600 and a lot of the time they do that through the benefit system so the first thing cut that off and i bet

00:51:09.760 you would see millions leave i bet you would see millions leave i absolutely agree it's a good first step

00:51:14.480 yeah and the second step illegals right obviously if you don't have a british passport gone instantly

00:51:19.800 no questions asked you just get just instantly deported that's another million or so at least

00:51:24.740 that's going to be deported and so you can already see how like this would make the country feel much

00:51:29.660 more livable just to begin with and then you just end immigration so you've always got a natural 0.99

00:51:34.680 outflow of about 700 000 a year anyway gross zero yeah yeah gross just one more not one more yeah

00:51:40.880 whatever the problem you're trying to solve with immigration hasn't been solved right otherwise you

00:51:45.300 wouldn't need we've got 15 million legal new immigrants here if if you had a problem solved this

00:51:50.000 isn't the way to do it right so that's absolute zero so suddenly you've got 700 000 a year leaving

00:51:54.920 just on their own noose and we've also got millions leaving because we're denying them the reason that they

00:52:01.280 we're staying here anyway and not one argument can be made for human rights nothing can be argued for

00:52:08.120 that we we don't owe foreigners benefits we don't owe people access to the country illegal immigrants 1.00

00:52:13.420 have got no right to be here and already we've removed millions so i think that is the best start to

00:52:19.400 shift the public perception of how immigration should be handled without anyone being able to point the

00:52:24.660 finger and saying you've hurt someone because no we haven't we haven't done anything that we were

00:52:28.700 obligated to do and we got what we wanted so that's that's what i would say is like the first

00:52:33.040 that the best way to bring this into a real plausible and action position but i i realize there are

00:52:39.520 people further to the right who want to go harder on this i just think these are i'm trying to be

00:52:44.160 practical sure i just think these are uh honest and frank conversations which need to be had a lot

00:52:49.260 more you you sign up to lotusseaters.com and we'll have five pound a month because you won't get

00:52:54.560 this from christian guru murphy no they just won't talk about it they'll talk about why you can't get

00:53:00.540 a dentist why you can't get an operation need to build more housing why you can't afford a house

00:53:04.460 why you can't get a school place but they won't talk about why that is because people need these

00:53:10.540 things just we import a million new people 10 million new people but don't mention that don't

00:53:16.600 talk about well it's got to be talked about i'm afraid because it's reality and you you can only

00:53:21.520 ignore reality to a point with the best will in the world with the biggest blinkers on in the world

00:53:26.900 you can only avoid it to a certain point without laboring the point why do we want to ignore reality

00:53:32.920 yeah that's why do we want it's never ever healthy never okay yeah anyway let's uh let's get some

00:53:39.340 comments so uh uh that's random name says nobody here is racist we just want normal and stable and

00:53:45.880 functional society where our children can prosper in a truly meritocratic system yeah it's like we had

00:53:51.500 before tony blair that's all i want you know i just want the britain we had before tony blair

00:53:55.680 another thing i hate is when people some people on twitter they say oh it's so cringe like nostalgia

00:54:00.220 looking backwards or wishing it was still the 90s that's so cringe it's so pathetic and right no it's

00:54:05.580 not no not at all that's the no no i reject that actually we're going to recreate that country it's 0.70

00:54:10.600 yeah yeah yeah it's fine yeah you know it's just not going to be swamped with this guy uh because it

00:54:16.960 was it was a wholesome and healthy country i'm sorry i lived through it i know it was a good

00:54:20.980 country full of good people who did the right thing and made a lot of money and did what because 0.96

00:54:24.020 they worked hard and they weren't being constantly robbed by the goddamn government or robbed on the 0.98

00:54:28.340 street or robbed on the street or anything else right but mostly robbed by the government it's it's 0.95

00:54:32.800 it's a it was a good place to go back to and we will recreate it uh sigil says uh but carl and

00:54:38.480 bow have you considered the third builders really really want to come to our countries and have our

00:54:41.820 stuff uh i have actually which is why i'm such a hard line i've got a hard line position on this

00:54:46.100 um that's that's why i don't want to have it uh and i think the blueprint for the future of this

00:54:50.660 is israel gaza they'll come in set up their own theocratic nation get a big money backer and

00:54:55.020 slowly bomb you out of over time honestly i don't think these guys are capable of it yeah i don't

00:55:00.060 think these guys are capable of it i mean it might happen don't get me wrong but i'm interesting you

00:55:04.500 look at what happened on 7-7 everyone knows that was a terrorist attack where a load of bombs went

00:55:09.760 off four different bombs went off in london what most people seem to forget is on 21-7

00:55:14.060 the same year 2005 there were another four bombers tried to do stuff and none of their bombs went off

00:55:20.920 or only like the detonator went off it didn't it wasn't a mass casualty event yeah so yeah if you're

00:55:26.820 it's actually i understand you need to actually understand it's not that easy to make those types

00:55:32.000 of devices um but yeah they make a good point because the the israel gaza specifically gaza not even

00:55:38.020 the west bank but specifically gaza yeah that is the that is uh we talk about the thin end of the

00:55:43.800 wedge uh or or a path towards somewhere some sort of nightmare destination yeah that is taken have

00:55:49.840 taken it to its its logical conclusions something like that you know i don't want that for england

00:55:57.200 i i think we'll arrive much more likely in a south africa slash lebanon style situation

00:56:01.680 where it's just literally warring communities in a failing state i think that's more likely anyway

00:56:09.100 let's move on so it turns out that it wasn't the far right at all that was responsible for southport

00:56:16.520 oh was it not no oh no uh we'll get to why well what do you know about that but let's before we do

00:56:22.300 that let's let's remind ourselves back on the first of august 2024 what they were telling us about

00:56:29.360 southport now remember we weren't allowed to speculate on the ethnicity or identity of the killer

00:56:34.600 but that's not what we're going to be focusing on here what we're going to be focusing on is

00:56:38.720 the establishment's response to the people who were rioting now i'm not again i'm not for rioting i'm

00:56:44.580 not for people attacking hotels with people in and things like this so i don't condone any of that

00:56:49.720 um and this is keir starmer's response so this is about a minute and a half long but we're going to

00:56:54.900 watch it because i want you to remember the tone of this let me now turn to the actions of a tiny

00:57:00.160 mindless minority in our society because in the aftermath of this attack the community of southport

00:57:08.980 had to suffer twice a gang of thugs got on trains and buses went to a community that is not their own

00:57:17.260 a community grieving the most horrific tragedy and then proceeded to throw bricks at police officers

00:57:27.420 police officers who just 24 hours earlier had been having to deal with an attack on children

00:57:37.660 in their community their community and make no mistake whether it's in southport london or hartlepool

00:57:49.020 these people are showing our country exactly who they are mosques targeted because they're mosques 0.99

00:57:58.620 flares thrown at the statue of winston churchill a nazi salute at the cenotaph and so i've just held a

00:58:07.460 meeting with senior police and law enforcement leaders where we've resolved to show who we are

00:58:14.100 a country that will not allow understandable fear to curdle into division and hate in our communities

00:58:22.740 and that will not permit under any circumstances a breakdown in law and order on our streets

00:58:29.600 because let's be very clear about this it's not protest it's not legitimate

00:58:37.940 it's crime violent disorder an assault on the rule of law and the execution of justice

00:58:46.740 and so on behalf of the british people who expect their values and their security to be upheld

00:58:54.640 we will put a stop to it thank you so cheers you can see how angry he is at these foreign people 1.00

00:59:04.360 to southport right now look at the very no they got on a bus or a train they weren't from southport and

00:59:09.900 the poor people of southport grieving the murder of these children and the poor police who have just

00:59:15.280 been dealing with the aftermath of this unbelievable attack they then come under a second attack by a

00:59:20.640 bunch of foreign infiltrators who interlopers who get on buses get on trains come over and then cause

00:59:26.240 trouble and so it's it's a double weight so they're twice as guilty and in fact if anything more guilty

00:59:31.900 than the stabber because you know we didn't talk about him in this little speech did we right we

00:59:35.980 didn't have any information about him at this point nothing to talk about there son even though he had

00:59:40.600 al-qaeda terror manuals and he had racial animus repeatedly and shown in his uh online statements

00:59:46.800 against white people and the fact that kian knew this by this point doesn't matter about that the

00:59:52.500 far-right thugs reacting to a slaughter of the innocents well is the real problem again you can see his 0.88

00:59:59.060 absolutely and the thing is the the the tone of what he's saying he is i mean look at his face 0.99

01:00:03.800 he's furious with you furious that you dare do anything you disgusting far-right invaders is what 0.89

01:00:12.520 he's saying probably working class as well uh definitely working class actually um but anyway so

01:00:17.720 this is from the 4th of august a couple of days later because of course the riots carried on

01:00:21.220 uh and he's basically like look uh if you're you're all far right and i'm going to kill you is 0.91

01:00:26.480 i utterly condemn the far-right thuggery we've seen this weekend be in no doubt those that have 0.87

01:00:37.040 participated in this violence will face the full force of the law the police will be making arrests

01:00:44.780 individuals will be held on remand charges will follow and convictions will follow

01:00:52.820 i guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder whether directly or those whipping up

01:01:01.540 this action online and then running away themselves this is not protest it is organized violent

01:01:10.820 thuggery and it has no place on our streets or online right now there are attacks happening

01:01:20.500 on a hotel in rotherham marauding gangs intent on law breaking or worse windows smashed fire set ablaze

01:01:30.820 residents and staff in absolute fear there is no justification none for taking this action

01:01:40.740 and all right-right minded people should be condemning this sort of violence people in this country

01:01:50.180 have a right to be safe and yet we've seen muslim communities targeted attacks on mosques

01:02:00.180 other minority communities singled out nazi salutes in the street attacks on the police wanton violence

01:02:09.540 alongside racist rhetoric so no i won't shy away from calling it what it is far-right thuggery

01:02:20.500 to those who feel targeted because of the color of your skin or your faith i know how frightening this must be

01:02:30.020 i want you to know that this violent mob do not represent our country and we will bring them to justice

01:02:39.780 so you couldn't be more clear that he has ideologized this yeah it's not the families of those little

01:02:46.340 girls no it's not worried about their far-right infiltrators they have an ideological position they do

01:02:52.020 nazi salutes and they're just intent on crime and we the british state are going to crush you under 0.94

01:02:57.780 our heel and by the way if you're not white if you're part of a minority community don't worry 0.99

01:03:02.500 we're going to cuddle you make sure you're safe in the wake of a an immigrant second generation 1.00

01:03:07.620 immigrant murdering a bunch of children everyone has the right to be safe apart from those apart from 1.00

01:03:12.660 those families apparently that's too late so forget about that now yeah that was in the past basically

01:03:17.540 uh yeah so one of the things i find so obnoxious about this other than just characterizing

01:03:22.660 normal people that are outraged by an atrocity as far right far right thugs uh is when he says

01:03:28.660 directly you will regret this yeah talking directly to you yeah it's that i would say to keir star i know

01:03:36.100 you i guarantee you that history will remember you as this is one as a traitor this is 100 the

01:03:43.060 the point at which his popularity is cratered this is exactly the wrong message because nobody felt

01:03:48.660 that this was actually what it was being portrayed as uh far right tag organizing tactics in southport

01:03:56.180 uh you know two nights of violent protests following a knife attack bbc analysis of and out of activity on

01:04:01.380 mainstream social media and the smaller public groups shows a clear pattern of influences driving a

01:04:05.700 message for people to gather for protests but there is no single organizing force at work stephen

01:04:11.220 yaks lee lennon who uses the alias tommy robinson which is when he say you know organize hatred and

01:04:15.620 then run away because robinson was on holiday right um focused on spreading his message on social

01:04:21.940 media platforms where he has a sizable following so they are almost directly accusing tommy robinson

01:04:28.340 and various others from inciting riots right they've got such a boner for tommy it's mad but he didn't

01:04:34.100 do it yeah and he wasn't even in the country or whatever it's like he's not he wasn't like on twitter go

01:04:38.100 out and write and burn something he didn't say that right and they don't say they said it but

01:04:42.020 they kind of imply that that's what he was doing right bbc verify though they they oh they're the

01:04:46.820 arbit the absolute arbiters of truth i mean they lie a lot so uh anyway uh then you had you know mark

01:04:54.260 rowley um from the uh met police saying yep this was largely racially motivated thugs and the guardian

01:05:01.700 uh reporting about this three months ago uh key architect of riots after southport was attacked uh was

01:05:06.820 jailed for seven and a half years so andrew mcintyre made the mistake of almost all of them

01:05:11.860 which is pleading guilty uh they should like there was a champ in wales who was accused and arrested

01:05:18.020 and he pleaded non-guilty and was let go because he wasn't inciting riots he wasn't inciting racial

01:05:23.700 hatred it's just any low-level social chatter they were like you you you you we got you and they were

01:05:30.820 obviously these are people who most for the most part i think probably hadn't ever seen a lawyer before

01:05:35.700 and they were just given the government lawyer and told look it'll just be easier if you say no

01:05:40.180 and it turns out that was not true right you got lucy connelly in jail for 31 months or something

01:05:44.500 uh because she said something that i don't personally view as incitement to violence

01:05:49.300 but she pleaded guilty and boom she's in jail for 31 months then what alexander solzhenitsyn describes

01:05:54.420 that were called zeks political prisoners yes yes simply guilty of wrong think or wrong speak

01:06:01.140 yeah that's it that's it boom so uh the judge mcintyre uh sorry censor mcintyre judge flew it

01:06:08.820 so the defendant was quote prominent among people responsible for spreading misinformation

01:06:13.540 after the southport attack okay but what was the crime didn't it close spread misinformation about

01:06:20.180 people people throwing acid in the faces of muslims or something i don't remember what it was what did

01:06:24.580 he say something no it was something like that yeah i remember it it was something yeah but he had said

01:06:28.660 something that was just demonstrably false and he had to retract it uh but the campaign group

01:06:32.660 speaking of nick lowles hope not hate said afterwards that quote mcintyre was a leading

01:06:36.980 organizer and key architect of the riots and the uk was a safer place because he was now in jail it's

01:06:41.780 like that's not true uh anyway we we were obviously then subjected to massive amounts of propaganda you

01:06:48.340 had the uh counter protest the anti-hate marchers who faced down and confronted the far right

01:06:55.380 uh because the media kind of ginned up their own response to this the establishment ginned up their

01:06:59.540 own foot soldiers on the streets you may remember the um uh the ethnic protests that took place where

01:07:06.740 you had armed muslims and various other ethnic minorities just hanging around the streets some

01:07:11.220 of the smashing things do you remember the one where uh there's there's just a white english guy 0.89

01:07:14.900 walking past the pub and they were like oh it's a white english guy and they beat him up

01:07:18.420 smashing him into the pub yeah yeah and they injured him really badly yeah they injured him

01:07:22.900 really really badly and that was just a racial attack he wasn't part of a protest he was just

01:07:27.300 walking past he wasn't part of the protest and yet that's what they did and anyone brought to

01:07:32.180 justice for that because that actually was a racially uh well he was guilty of being white wasn't

01:07:37.780 he really that's the problem you can't even say you're english anymore you see isn't that right

01:07:42.020 it's stuart lee god i hate him so much anyway you you've got uh the obvious people who uh charlotte

01:07:49.220 was summarizing this is like the propagandists on the left carol vauderman and the rest going farage

01:07:53.940 riots as if farage had anything to do with this really the byline times led by donkeys etc etc and we

01:08:00.500 discussed all of this in our round table at the time which is by far one of the the best piece of

01:08:05.860 content on the website so if you'd like supporters go and watch that and the link will be in the

01:08:09.300 description uh where we essentially presaged everything that this report has come out and

01:08:16.820 said so this report has been done by the uh his majesty's inspectorate of constabulary and fire

01:08:24.420 and rescue services which was established in 1856 to uh be the senior institution in policing

01:08:31.460 so a venerable and august body i mean it's literally the body that polices the police right

01:08:36.980 okay okay what did they say it's second only to the home office in authority so i guess what we'll

01:08:43.940 have to just take what they say is read uh because they've spent all of this time investigating and we

01:08:49.780 have an inspection of the police report response to the disorder so they've done a very thorough

01:08:54.500 inspection so i'm just going to quote verbatim from it uh quote during our inspection we found no

01:09:01.780 conclusive or compelling evidence that the 2024 disorder was deliberately premeditated and

01:09:06.900 coordinated by any specific group or network most people who took part in the disorder lived locally

01:09:13.060 before the 2024 disorder many of them hadn't been convicted of disorder related offenses

01:09:17.860 the police arrested 147 children during this some of the some of them as young as 11 years old

01:09:23.940 the oldest person was 81 convicted for assault apparently 81 year old the events that led to

01:09:30.580 their arrests mainly involved public expressions of disaffection online and on the streets of uk

01:09:36.100 towns and cities so not assaulting the police not calling for people to be killed public expressions of

01:09:42.660 disaffection oh the murders of three young girls in southport triggered these events

01:09:48.980 incidents there wasn't far right ideology they weren't far right thugs they they did not

01:09:55.380 bust themselves in they weren't far right they were just local people who were really upset that

01:10:01.940 this happened everything that keir starmer said everything that hope not hate said everything the media

01:10:06.900 said all lies according to this report well that was going to be my next question was keir starmer merely

01:10:12.980 mistaken or was he proactively lying well i think he's lying yeah of course he was

01:10:19.300 but that's my opinion uh they say uh they they follow on and basically criticize the police

01:10:25.780 response saying disappointingly we found the police service didn't sufficiently prioritize

01:10:29.380 intelligence on disorder uh even though strategic policing requirement includes it as one of their

01:10:33.620 most significant threats to public safety we also found the forces didn't always monitor collect

01:10:37.540 classify or use disorderly related intelligence effectively this inhibits their ability to identify

01:10:42.740 disorder related risk at local regional and national levels as part of the reason the police service

01:10:46.740 didn't react to changes in public sentiments before the disorder in southport so the police weren't

01:10:51.140 competent they weren't prepared they weren't doing their job as their requirements suggested they should

01:10:57.220 but they did find that the police uh forces managed to arrest 1804 people

01:11:04.180 and 1071 people were charged with criminal offenses and remember as they said before most involved public 0.93

01:11:10.580 expressions of disaffection so for you not being happy with how things are done the crappy police

01:11:16.980 force still can stamp you down and still keep you under their heel in other words you're confronted with

01:11:21.540 policemen you scream something about those poor girls yeah and that's it that's it and there was one

01:11:27.380 guy i mean there was one guy who was actually charged with waving his hand at the police he was

01:11:31.540 shaking a fist at them or something they're like right him boom god it's like okay uh and so and they think

01:11:37.060 that the heavy-handed actions of the police quote uh undoubtedly had a deterrent effect so the police

01:11:44.180 force managed to suppress the public brilliant by being unjust slow hand clap well done exactly yeah

01:11:50.660 well the police were saying this back in december uh as you can see here intelligence sharing within

01:11:58.740 your own force area but it works i see people bent over backwards to help and support the probably

01:12:05.860 probably the one thing that i think does need a bit of reflection on is um the narrative about what

01:12:11.460 this was and what was going on because certainly um in in the early days i attended um you know one

01:12:18.180 or two national meetings um and the conversation was about right-wing people maybe being whipped up

01:12:24.660 maybe a controlling mind and this was about people traveling on trains restricting travel because they

01:12:29.460 were coming into areas and fomenting violence that was not what i saw um the vast majority in fact all

01:12:35.700 almost universally everybody arrested in um you know 169 arrests they're all teesiders you know 0.99

01:12:43.620 the the furthest they hailed from was darlington which is probably 12 miles away and they were people

01:12:48.020 who lived in teeside and who'd managed to kind of you know extend their horizons to darlington so this

01:12:53.060 wasn't people coming in from outside and i think maybe in the early days of this disorder um you know

01:12:59.540 there's a lot of coverage in the media about what this was but i think the disorder in each and every

01:13:03.620 area was different and it certainly didn't fit that narrative where it was happening for me

01:13:09.060 so you'll notice that this is mark webster back in the home uh the home of uh home affairs committee

01:13:18.180 chief constable of cleveland police on the 10th of december talking about this so it's not like

01:13:22.020 this has been sat on that not like they haven't known this for five months now right and it's just

01:13:26.740 again he said he was saying at the time their reports say this everything that keir starmer said

01:13:31.940 everything the media said everything the activists were saying just lies ideological lies is what they

01:13:37.220 were thinking is oh this must be our ideological enemies attempting some kind of uprising and no

01:13:43.540 what the far right means in this context is working class local people who are afraid and are not happy

01:13:49.620 that this is able to happen to their children that's what this is and they pathologize this ideologize

01:13:55.540 this as far right and keir starmer literally said we're going to come for you we are going to get

01:14:00.340 you in jail you're going to regret this i will make sure you regret guarantee yeah and it's like

01:14:05.540 that is evil absolutely evil you know these were grieving wounded people and most of them didn't 0.97

01:14:11.380 even actually commit what i would consider to be a crime but you were shouting at police or voicing

01:14:16.180 your dissatisfaction online as the police report says sorry sorry i don't think there should be a crime

01:14:21.780 and just because the establishment got freaked out because they have no control over the the clients

01:14:25.940 that they've brought into the country and sometimes they'll just get a stabby and go kill a child 1.00

01:14:29.620 that's no excuse absolutely no excuse these are political prisoners yeah they all should be released

01:14:35.780 and nigel fryer should have a commitment to that we're going to make sure that we can get them out of jail 0.99

01:14:39.940 like i don't know what he can do you know and he probably can't do a presidential pardon or something

01:14:43.940 but like we should be doing something right we should be talking about this in some way but anyway

01:14:49.140 i mean it's interesting a couple quick points um the police intelligence gathering what you mean

01:14:54.580 going on facebook yeah and twitter yeah really telegram groups yeah stuff like this um actually

01:15:00.820 interviewing the people they've arrested but no you're absolutely right what it is is that

01:15:04.500 that the multicultural experiment the concept of of open borders and globalization and globalism and

01:15:10.420 the diversities of strength um the the net result of that at some point will be some kind of

01:15:19.140 horror like what happened at southport yeah and it's happened over and it's not like the only one

01:15:24.260 and you are not allowed to react to it you're not allowed yeah you cannot react to it yeah you don't

01:15:31.700 well well right nudge unit are in they're working hard the the parents have already forgiven the

01:15:37.300 murderers of their children and by react to it even just saying something shouting on the street

01:15:42.180 those poor girls or something of that order that's not allowed the pressure cooker must be kept 1.00

01:15:47.700 absolutely locked down locked down you are far right and um well once again as i said in our last

01:15:54.180 segment uh that will only work up to a point reality right reality doesn't care about your

01:16:02.340 failed ideology in the end in the final analysis yes let's go to the video comments

01:16:11.220 uh colin also asked just a quick thing how long do we see someone charged with insulting christianity

01:16:15.780 that will never happen christianity is coded as a white majority religion

01:16:19.620 in this country is the islam is the brown minority religion and that's how they perceive these 0.95

01:16:24.260 things anyway let's go hopefully there weren't too many black pills in today's podcast

01:16:31.300 well well um hmm well i hope you all have a good weekend

01:16:37.540 and remember to visit nye mechworks on youtube for all your real life cyberpunk goodness

01:16:48.900 uh unfortunately there are lots of black pills it was a very black pilling one today wasn't it uh

01:16:52.980 but these are the things that we have to deal with these are the real aspects of our world

01:16:58.340 like you say reality just won't ignore it all right let's go to the next one

01:17:08.980 give me the gorilla man anytime yeah i'll first in line i'll give it a go yeah we put almost

01:17:15.300 certainly won't catch venereal disease of the gorilla yeah so you might only get your head crushed

01:17:20.180 also may take it maintain my dignity right yeah yeah i'll take the gorilla maybe i can talk him out 0.66

01:17:25.940 a bit uh let's go to the next one i hate that nigel does these cameos i didn't know he did you've 0.98

01:17:43.860 not seen them no i don't so there's a cycle cameo where you can pay like 100 quid or whatever get

01:17:48.580 nigel to say like a 30 second isn't he already a millionaire why is he doing that that's the

01:17:53.540 question right so for chump change yeah he makes like oh i mean he makes quite a lot of money he

01:17:58.260 makes like 16 grand a month or something oh right okay still but still but but you're you're making

01:18:03.140 a million a year off gb news like you've got various other incomes of other things you really need to

01:18:08.420 do cameo but it's really undignified and so you get videos like that i wouldn't do that no i wouldn't

01:18:13.940 do that either i don't do that now and you're right yeah like i could use the money you know i mean

01:18:18.180 like i'm not doing that that's embarrassing yeah let's go to the next one i can't wrap my head around

01:18:23.780 canada canada is a strange place the majority of our territory is still untamed frontier and

01:18:27.940 majority of our population are good-natured but tough roughnecks to match and because of the 0.99

01:18:31.940 population dispersal we're still an extremely high trust society most people still regard our state

01:18:36.500 broadcaster the cbc as a source of divine objective truth keep in mind that the real damage to our country

01:18:41.700 has only really been done since 2020 and the broader population is indeed starting to take notice

01:18:46.340 albeit ever so slowly i get the feeling that most of the populations are quietly waiting for social

01:18:50.740 permission to notice the terrors that have been inflicted upon us and unfortunately it seems trump

01:18:54.900 has set that back by about 20 years wish us luck i love this guy's video yeah yeah i love watching

01:19:01.860 people make stuff into spit up i mean he makes good points as well you know we are wishing you luck

01:19:07.540 what he described is very similar to our experience it's very very similar i mean probably the same

01:19:12.260 the street our stuff goes back way worse than earlier than 2020 but what he said there is very

01:19:16.980 similar to our plight um and what the thing is for so frustrating so annoying is the number of people

01:19:24.100 still that only watch the bbc or channel 4 news only listen to radio 4 or whatever and they get their

01:19:31.220 news they think the bbc verify is truly the arbiter of truth or whatever and um you not exclusively but

01:19:38.260 largely of the older generation and they will not accept a different paradigm to that it's beyond

01:19:46.740 frustrating what can we do the bbc tells you what's black and white what's right and wrong and that's 0.83

01:19:52.180 the end of the story for them do you think the bbc are going to be featuring the southport report

01:19:56.500 from the police on like you know their headline show yeah i wonder what mariana spring makes of it

01:20:01.060 yeah exactly but it's not it's not gonna be on the news yeah they'll ignore it it's not 0.98

01:20:03.780 10 breaking news new police commission report reveals that the government was full of crap

01:20:09.540 regarding the southport and they completely lied to him they're not going to do it it's like okay

01:20:13.220 well i highly doubt it what we'll do on our flagship program but like you know that's the best we can

01:20:18.020 do isn't it let's go to the next one good morning lotus eaters looks like my week got away from me

01:20:28.100 we're already at the weekend and i'm talking about last weekend's trip i plan to talk about

01:20:33.140 an abridged history of the abandoned gold mining town here monte cristo but my research led me down

01:20:39.940 time-consuming rabbit holes so i'll have to save that story for a later date i hope you all enjoyed

01:20:45.380 the extra pictures though and that you had a great week so far have a nice weekend that is amazing yeah

01:20:52.260 thank you very much i appreciate that oh it's a sasquatch it's just a squatch um i'm so jealous

01:21:00.100 of people that live in uh beautiful wildernesses like that if i had endless money i'd have at least

01:21:06.340 one property that was somewhere like that oh yeah for sure yeah i'd like to spend a lot of my life

01:21:12.260 there summer holiday home you know let's go to the next one hey lotus eaters i'm reporting from

01:21:18.820 pune india this is the military's uh ancient and modern capital operation cindor was launched last

01:21:26.660 night from the city we could hear the bombs and the f-16s going off last night and uh to explain

01:21:33.620 cindor it means like your husband so when the terrorists killed the husbands you cannot wear the

01:21:40.660 cindor anymore as a wife so this was a revenge of the husbands operation literally in hindi

01:21:48.820 that's really interesting it is yeah yeah thank you so much for sending us an actual report on the

01:21:54.100 ground yeah yeah interesting um be our correspondent for lotus eaters india yeah yeah um finn says i was

01:22:02.820 born in blackboard blackburn it's not good there i had a close friend uh who met with prevent because

01:22:07.780 he was beaten up for being edgy towards islam there's a shooting few years ago because between illegal car

01:22:13.060 washes which killed an innocent law student there are roughly equal portions indian and muslim

01:22:18.660 which have been growing since the 70s these descendants of the raj or origin administrators

01:22:22.900 who idi amin expelled yeah the um the pretty patel types you know those sort of uh but i guess

01:22:29.780 there's a ethnic conflict growing uh i mean you look at sweden for example somewhere not as bad

01:22:35.940 as gaza or yugoslava in the 90s or south africa but it's not that far off it's getting there uh how would

01:22:43.540 the state act if you burnt a bible and a quran they'd arrest you for burning the quran yeah 1.00

01:22:47.780 that's just literally it would be as simple as that wouldn't it yeah it's arizona desert asks how

01:22:52.660 does one harass a religion only only the arcane tea readings of the crown prosecution service can

01:23:01.140 answer that i'm afraid you know a logical straight i mean literally the laws against harassment in this

01:23:06.580 country is people right individuals can be harassed people and an individual person can claim that they

01:23:13.460 were harassed in an by another person or group based on certain actions i've no idea what harassing a

01:23:21.140 religion means so i mean whatever i guess just i have always thought that if you truly believed that your

01:23:31.220 holy text was um divinely given i'm sure they all believe that well yeah that is the line isn't it

01:23:40.820 yeah that is the line that's every holy text ever that's what makes it hope right right yeah whether

01:23:44.660 it's the bible or whatever it is it's the yeah or whatever it is yeah um if you truly truly believe

01:23:51.060 that down to your core it wouldn't it shouldn't make any difference to you whatsoever if someone else

01:23:58.180 doesn't think it or or disputes it or even uh burns the sort of physical text on a bit of paper

01:24:04.260 if it wouldn't it wouldn't matter to you be like that's nothing for me to god if anything no no no

01:24:10.020 you'd have the stuart lee approach to it actually sort of condescension snorting right oh oh you're 0.99

01:24:15.460 just one of those morons who doesn't realize this yeah would have got what you're already but i'm 0.99

01:24:19.060 embarrassed for you exactly that's about it exactly that's if you truly yeah yeah yeah i agree 1.00

01:24:24.660 yeah no i think that's a good point how embarrassing for you that you haven't noticed

01:24:28.580 that you haven't realized the the revelation the truth of it yeah and i'm just going to snort and 0.99

01:24:33.700 like put my nose in the air and wander off because you're so stupid yeah not worth my time i'm just 0.99

01:24:38.420 going to mock you uh roman observer says civilized peaceful people having to live in gated guarded 1.00

01:24:43.100 communities away from major cities uh trying to achieve self-sufficiency with barbarians in the 1.00

01:24:48.120 country middle ages castles are going to make strong comeback um it will be something like that

01:24:53.100 fortified cities and that's how that's how the world used to be is massive fortified cities where

01:25:00.160 the hinterland was always open possibility to invasion i mean this is literally what the sumerian

01:25:06.160 cities were like worrying about gutian barbarians coming down from the hills and and killing people 0.96

01:25:11.000 so you would live in the city every morning you'd walk three miles whatever to the field and start

01:25:16.120 tilling the field and then in the evening you'd walk back you know you can't live out there because the

01:25:21.800 barbarians might come along and slaughter you like in medieval times or even up to sort of the

01:25:26.960 18th or even into the 19th century it was always a question of whether the roads are safe yeah are the

01:25:32.200 roads safe from highwaymen from robbers from whatever yeah marauding tribes of foreign barbarians 1.00

01:25:39.280 yeah uh we'll go back to that and you have sort of one end of the spectrum full-blown defensive

01:25:44.700 positions like a castle or somewhere in between where you've got a country house a manor house

01:25:49.100 that is defendable yeah and uh i mean they used to have literally walled inns where they had like

01:25:56.340 guards and it was a safe place to spend the night when you're on the journey this is what will i have

01:26:01.280 to end up returning to if you're not within a walled city where everyone has to give up their weapons at

01:26:05.160 the gate by nightfall you're in trouble yeah yeah because the land isn't safe this is full of barbarians 1.00

01:26:11.080 yeah yeah yeah the gutians are everywhere north fc zuma says unfortunately i think balkanization is more

01:26:17.140 likely than not at this point we probably have about 40 years before the largest voting blocs

01:26:21.160 are traditional and the their children and that assumes we halt demographic replacement i could

01:26:26.700 we i could easily see something else serious occurring from then i mean like i don't think the

01:26:31.360 predictions by 2050 or whatever it was predicted a million year net i don't think they're predicting

01:26:37.980 i think they're predicting net 300 000 something like that so it's probably going to be sooner it'll be

01:26:42.640 even sooner yeah yeah but uh but even then it's it's likely to be in our lifetimes though

01:26:47.220 yeah we'll be old men if we're lucky and we'll see this i do think though i still hold out hope

01:26:53.820 there's the whole there's the whole you can't vote this way your way out of this lamal crew i do think

01:27:00.080 that if there was no i do think if there was a government with the political will to do it we could

01:27:05.840 deport in britain we're in a very significant number of people really quickly yeah if there was

01:27:11.500 the will to do it but in britain we're in actually kind of a privileged position right so because we

01:27:16.740 don't have a hard constitution a written constitution that prevents us from doing anything

01:27:21.800 right so in germany for example when i went to germany they were like look it's literally in the

01:27:26.000 constitution that we're not allowed to do any of these things i'm like oh okay we're gonna have to

01:27:28.880 change that and they're like yeah good luck with that right and then i realized how privileged we were

01:27:32.960 because parliament is completely sovereign if you get a government of like 350 people

01:27:37.180 and just like okay well now we can legislate the sky is green you know because parliament is

01:27:43.480 literally the absolute sovereign when it comes to legislative power so we're just gonna you know

01:27:47.740 take away the passports of all of these people and just kick them out of the country we can 1.00

01:27:51.200 absolutely do that at any point you know there's there's literally nothing that will be able to stop

01:27:55.860 it i mean oh there are laws that it's fine we'll repeal all the laws we'll repeal all of these laws that

01:28:00.000 you'd use to stop us and then we'll just get and then they just have to go you know we we could do

01:28:04.800 anything it's about political will as you say so in many countries maybe voting away out of this

01:28:10.140 isn't practical but actually in britain there is definitely a path that we could use to solve this

01:28:14.860 using the democratic system we just need 350 400 unapologetic chads like yeah yeah how do we get 0.73

01:28:22.060 400 that's the question right um but uh yeah chase says machete fights are easy to explain

01:28:29.300 the diverse doctors are enriching our communities by performing surgery it's emergency surgery on the

01:28:34.540 diverse engineers they do it immediately and in public because they don't want to bog down the

01:28:38.100 nhs they're very passionate about the health care inspiring that's a brilliant quote a brilliant

01:28:42.380 comment uh dirty belt says we are the children of abel who have invited to eat cane who've invited the

01:28:48.460 children of cane into our homes there's little surprise they feel entitled to the sweat of our 1.00

01:28:52.860 collective brows yeah it's pretty bad uh geordie sauzman says i actually think the murder of

01:28:57.840 children is worse than the writing in response to it yeah the norm mcdonald position yeah morally

01:29:03.780 deficient position according to kirsten armor uh michael says the problem left is they either live

01:29:09.100 apart from the working class or can afford to live their own protecting gated communities 0.99

01:29:12.040 or are scum uh that is true i think they're all scum generally uh no gated armed gated community for 0.99

01:29:19.100 us yeah hellhole favela for you yes yes yeah that's that's exactly what they're thinking 0.99

01:29:25.960 uh hector says bo love your work here in your disposition is always a breath of fresh air

01:29:30.620 chance determined that you're going we're going to turn your head into a kettlebell and call it a

01:29:34.080 kettle bow all the best what okay aren't you attached to your head uh for now they can use it as a relic

01:29:42.540 after i'm dead i suppose i don't i don't mind i suppose that doesn't matter does it yeah once i'm dead i

01:29:48.620 so yeah the the head of bow looking down scornfully on what's happening in the future

01:29:54.940 like an actual shrine um canis familiaris so the common dog uh says nigel is doing it because he 0.93

01:30:02.580 thinks one of the clips might just go viral and this will gain him more votes somehow maybe i think

01:30:06.780 he's doing it for the money yeah i honestly think he just does it for the money i think he's just

01:30:10.200 16 grand a year i can't leave that on the table it's like you could be enjoying your dotage you know

01:30:16.460 you're quite old at this point nigel in your 60s you don't need to be doing embarrassing uh 0.99

01:30:22.080 cameo clips or just yeah cultivating some gravitas yeah would be nice yeah yeah exactly that and

01:30:28.880 that's the issue you want to be the next prime minister stop saying big chungus for money do you

01:30:33.600 say skibbity yeah stop saying skibbity for money nigel anyway we are out of time but we will be back 0.90

01:30:39.680 in half an hour with lads hour well it's the most fun show we do all week which is why we do on a

01:30:44.900 friday afternoon where we're going to cover just how girly we are according to women and uh it's

01:30:49.180 the results aren't going to be good they're not going to be good uh i predict i'm going to lose

01:30:53.540 beau's going to be probably second place dan's probably way ahead of everyone in the least girly

01:30:57.600 stelios might be a bit girly too it's going to be it's going to be a bloodbath absolutely brutal

01:31:02.280 uh so we'll see you over on lotuses.com

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - May 09, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1161

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