The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1162

00:00:00.000 hello everyone welcome to the podcast of the loadseaters today is monday the 12th of may

00:00:13.800 2025 and this is episode 1162 i'm your host elios and i'm joined today by steven wolf

00:00:20.880 and by firas modad hello and uh welcome both to the team steven you're with us for some time

00:00:28.360 firas it's not your first um no this is the first time i prepare a segment though so it's your first

00:00:34.400 time you're preparing a segment and you are going to be with us and i'm sure you have lots of good

00:00:38.780 things on the pipeline thank you i've heard some things check them out be on guard thank you

00:00:45.280 yeah we're looking forward to it looking forward to it thank you so we are going to talk about

00:00:49.960 trump giving uh refugee status to white south africans very brexity things and we're gonna

00:00:57.180 ask whether catholicism can save the west i'm sure we're gonna have a very we will on that

00:01:03.860 definitely very great discussion on this right so let's talk about south africa and u.s relations

00:01:11.500 the trump administration granted refugee status to white south africans and the left is on

00:01:17.260 life support and i want to say that the left has acted in particularly shameful ways and i want to 0.96

00:01:24.040 call them out and i think that they are deeply hypocritical morally complacent and they are 0.68

00:01:28.840 actually turning a blind eye to really horrendous rhetoric rhetoric that is genocidal in the in the 0.90

00:01:37.540 making but also they are turning a blind eye to the terrible practices which very often have victims

00:01:44.180 and lots of them are disproportionately white so what happened we need to give some context about it

00:01:51.440 because this is a sub subject that we have talked about it before josh has done several segments about

00:01:56.500 it and has done an interview which we are going to talk about with ernst von zil let me show it to you

00:02:01.560 here definitely check it out they are talking about the fate of south africa and you can find it on a

00:02:10.060 website go and check it out so this is a topic that we have spoken about before but we need to address

00:02:18.480 several people and maybe they don't know the context so i'm going to give you some of some of the

00:02:23.260 context here so south africa is governed by the a and c party for about 30 years there's the party of

00:02:30.660 nelson mandela which came with great promises of liberation but look it looks like everything is

00:02:36.580 worse yep i don't think that this is i don't think anyone can really say that south africa is in a

00:02:41.380 better position it was 30 years ago it's not particularly controversial basic things electricity

00:02:46.900 security trains uh the value of the currency on all of these details they're just doing a horrific

00:02:54.620 job managing their country yes and it's declined periodically and not only that the impact that it

00:02:59.060 has on nations around there that was reliant at one stage upon the largest economic power it slipped

00:03:05.540 behind countries such as ghana and nigeria which are growing because they're freer exactly and they say

00:03:11.200 that on every metric south africa has gone backward education health employment everything seems to be

00:03:18.780 going downhill and they are saying that the anc party had the support of the majority of south africans for

00:03:25.900 almost 30 years but last may i think the support has dwindled it has become lower than 50 and there is a

00:03:34.300 kind of lack of lack of governance and this has led the anc party to try to sort of

00:03:41.400 pick pick a segment of the population and blame everything on that segment of the population

00:03:48.840 and there are several parties especially we are going to talk also about the eff led by julius malema who 0.82

00:03:55.480 are openly calling and chanting kill the boar kill the white man which are things that shouldn't be

00:04:02.580 we we shouldn't turn a blind eye to them we should constantly talk about them because they are 0.95

00:04:09.340 essentially pro-genocide rhetoric that's how it works are they the two main parties at the moment

00:04:15.040 or rather and there used to be a few more than them if i remember rightly but they've now risen to

00:04:19.640 effectively be the two main political parties opposing each other because one was supposed to be a

00:04:25.520 splinter group of the other wasn't it so the eff is a splinter of the anc uh and then there are two

00:04:32.840 other major parties represent still major parliament well they can never beat the anc and they can never

00:04:39.580 beat the anc and the eff together yeah and what the eff does is that it's a it sets out a far more extreme

00:04:48.120 position okay that the anc then must meet remember you don't have to to win politically you don't have

00:04:54.700 to win the election no you just have to make the ruling party implement your agenda yeah it's like

00:04:59.480 coalitions and coalition governments like now with the cdu yep csu in germany and the spd somehow the spd

00:05:07.560 is on the government yet again yes somehow right so a few months ago cyril ramaphosa the leader of the anc

00:05:15.920 signed a very controversial bill the land seizure law which calls for expropriation of land without

00:05:22.560 compensation which effectively means there are no property rights and if there are no property rights

00:05:28.760 people's lives become incredibly more precarious imagine being in a country where you are the

00:05:35.900 minority and you suddenly have the government being able to come and tell you i can confiscate

00:05:43.180 everything you have good luck yep well that sounds like they did it next door in zimbabwe they did 0.52

00:05:49.040 exactly the same so they're copying from that yes it's not exactly unheard of it's not a theoretical

00:05:54.760 possibility it's a very live possibility so donald trump took issue with it and he made a true uh post

00:06:00.660 in truth social saying south africa is confiscating land and treating certain classes of people very badly

00:06:06.820 this is a bad situation that the radical left media doesn't want to so much as mentioned a massive

00:06:13.380 human rights violation at the minimum is happening for all to see the united states won't stand for it

00:06:18.460 we will act also i will be cutting off all future funding to south africa until a full investigation of

00:06:24.360 this situation has been completed and in reaction to trump cyril ramaphosa here talks about

00:06:32.480 approaching iran and russia for a nuclear deal so i don't know fierus do you have a comment about the

00:06:40.180 why the geopolitical the angle of the conversation yeah so i think about it this way with what's

00:06:47.360 happening in the red sea and with the united states unable to uh get the red sea shipping lanes open

00:06:52.960 again without a deal with the hothi um it becomes even more important to make sure that the cape of good 0.99

00:06:58.700 hope group is is available and is open and now with um with the anc saying that they're going to

00:07:06.080 draw closer to iran and russia and they're already extremely close to china it becomes a problem to

00:07:12.560 lose this prime geopolitical real estate and so if there's a situation where there's talk of cape

00:07:19.240 independence or something that of that sort you can argue very convincingly that the strategic interests

00:07:26.340 of the west require it to defend an independent cape and to support an independent cape against

00:07:32.620 essentially china russia and and iran now with russia you might get a reconciliation but

00:07:39.600 don't you see this as this is the kind of consequence of us starting to try and mess geopolitically with

00:07:45.540 what is perceived now as the two largest enemies russia and china

00:07:49.220 we're the the russia is simply the gateway to china as one security services in the uk mentioned

00:07:56.620 it to me it said stephen we're not we've always disliked russia england has disliked russia since

00:08:02.440 the 1600s yes but we don't really never really sold them as a major threat what they are is a threat if

00:08:07.980 they're a friend to china exactly so by weakening russia we can then prepare our legitimate pre-war 0.98

00:08:14.060 scenarios against china but china have been aware of this for a long time they were aware of it

00:08:19.220 financially in the markets they're aware about it economically the way they've expanded outwards

00:08:24.240 so when you get dictators like this who are ready to butcher white people over land and use excuses

00:08:29.540 all we're doing is giving these people an opportunity to fall into the arms of those because

00:08:35.600 we're making it explicit at the net now and someone over the weekend who's living in northern

00:08:41.580 pakistan said it's china using their weapons through the pakistani military to test them out

00:08:49.660 against french military airplanes yes so that we can see this and they're becoming a friend in in in

00:08:55.360 that region so we're now dividing the world into this potential not just that the the bigger danger

00:09:01.840 is this the more pressure is placed on unnatural allies of china yeah like russia and iran who are stuck

00:09:08.880 with china rather than absolutely china yes the stronger the chinese become yeah so if you want 1.00

00:09:14.100 to be clever about it create distance between russia and china yeah and you can't make both of that

00:09:20.760 enemy at the same time no you can't you can't sorry let us let us let us continue so here we have

00:09:28.060 julius malema openly call it calling for the killing of the boer

00:09:32.740 literally talking about killing boers and farmers now to my mind this is just incitement to violence

00:09:47.260 this is the rhetoric that accompanies the demonization of white people and whenever groups are demonized

00:09:53.820 by rhetoric that rhetoric also is seen as justifying doings they are violate the violation of their

00:10:03.220 rights so they should be taken seriously we have here a thread by visegrad for julius malema if you

00:10:09.040 don't if you want to check out it's really interesting and here we need to say also that there are more

00:10:17.820 even more race laws right now than there were during the apart high times we have here from the free market

00:10:25.460 foundation these this article definitely check it out and these laws now are anti are mostly anti-white

00:10:34.040 they're anti-white not mostly so it looks like the left is trying to create a narrative according to

00:10:43.160 which every every criticism of south africa constitutes far-right extremism and racism whereas 0.53

00:10:52.080 in fact it looks like the regime that is governing south africa is even more racist yeah yeah right so

00:11:00.160 what happened now we're fast forwarding to today so we have here the first white south africans

00:11:05.840 boarding the plane for u.s under the trump refugee plan this is an article by reuters today which

00:11:11.800 you can tell that the person who wrote it isn't particularly happy about it and they're saying

00:11:17.500 here that trump's offer of asylum to white south africans especially africaners the group with the

00:11:23.260 longest history among white settlers in south africa has been divisive in both countries in the u.s it

00:11:29.320 comes as the trump administration has blocked mostly non-white refugee admissions from the rest of

00:11:34.720 the world in south africa it coincides with heightened racial tensions of land and jobs that have

00:11:41.040 dog domestic politics since the end of white minority rule and as i say here the granting of

00:11:47.900 refugee status to white south africans who have remained by far the most privileged race since 0.93

00:11:53.560 apartheid ended 30 years ago has been met with a mixture of alarm and ridicule by south african

00:11:59.440 authorities who say the trump administration has waded into a domestic political issue it does not

00:12:05.020 understand so why are they not in this particular case looking at the definition of the u.n refugee

00:12:10.140 convention and assessing that people are asylum applicants if they fear terror and abuse politically

00:12:18.700 and materially on their side of things because they're white and which we clearly see if someone

00:12:24.440 says kill the boar they are the boar that's a particular individual case that's saying about an 0.92

00:12:31.540 individual group we know that there's been a rise in violence in south africa against white people we

00:12:36.900 know that people have been killed we've seen that on there so that is a legitimate class of 1.00

00:12:41.260 individuals whereas those within this article that they're talking about the non-white refugee

00:12:45.940 admissions particularly the 200 to 350 000 a month that are going up there through biden were economic

00:12:52.340 migrants of which indians participated as that i mean this is from india yeah the third largest group

00:12:59.800 of people going through that southern border they're all economic migrants they're not fleeing terror in

00:13:05.260 the same way in the minds of the reuters author if you are european you are by definition privileged yes

00:13:15.800 and this racial hierarchy that they've created um is deeply symptomatic of the way that wokes invent 0.99

00:13:25.240 a new holy victim for themselves uh because they miss christianity they insist on creating new holy

00:13:33.220 victims and for them they've decided that rather than the holy victim victim being christ it must be

00:13:39.460 the so-called oppressed now in the case of south africa you constantly see attacks by south africans

00:13:45.380 against zimbabweans or against other foreigners in south africa absolutely uh and you see them 1.00

00:13:50.560 obviously against whites but that doesn't fit their religious dogma and so they can't see it and

00:13:56.960 they can't recognize it and they must insist therefore that this isn't a legitimate claim

00:14:02.420 uh of asylum it's it's built in and then there's something else that must be said which is

00:14:08.640 it's totally fair to expect migrants and refugees to be prioritized based on their ability to assimilate

00:14:17.400 into the host country yes there that's there's nothing wrong with saying that it's perfectly

00:14:22.080 normal um but to their minds no that that's that's a violation of their religious beliefs

00:14:28.480 the point is that i think that um i phrase it in terms of ideology and i think the core of the

00:14:34.500 ideology of these people is that there can be no such thing as a white person who is a victim of

00:14:40.260 racism yes this is these are the people who have been educated in you know the idv league universities

00:14:46.060 that have been pushing not necessarily not just the ivy leagues but they they have been educated in

00:14:51.840 the universities who have been pushing the critical race theory stuff which demonizes white people it's

00:14:57.880 not the colorblind uh 90s so if they if they really were to truly truly look at a philosophical and

00:15:06.600 intellectual argument they would be looking at the poor white south africans who were living in the

00:15:11.500 the estates the working class the poverty class yes that got worse after uh after the change and

00:15:18.540 the increase of the anc in power they've been isolated and they're the ones who should really 1.00

00:15:22.920 be clearly looking for a way out through asylum into the u.s but they'd equally be looking at the

00:15:28.200 poor across the rest of europe who are white or whatever color they're the ones who are suffering

00:15:33.140 look at their historical context people like my grandfather who was a crofter had to wheel things

00:15:38.660 across manchester collecting things and trying to sell it to make a living before that his parents

00:15:43.760 were working in the factories what white privilege do they have but they don't fit the criteria the

00:15:49.660 white privilege they're looking at are the whites who were in power in western europe at the time

00:15:55.060 with the billionaires of the day the millionaires of the day so the critique is against them but

00:16:00.500 blaming everybody in society because they happen to be slightly better off than they the guatemalan poverty

00:16:06.920 person and also completely absolving the rulers of south africa of any responsibility for the mess

00:16:15.400 that they're in yes as in why is south africa in a much worse economic state today than it was at the

00:16:23.020 time that apartheid ended well it's still the white people's fault yes but what about the anc does it take 0.96

00:16:29.680 any responsibility for the corruption for the mismanagement for the economic policies for the

00:16:33.720 socialism for the explosion in welfare absolutely not why um because why why was communism there

00:16:42.540 still killing 20 odd million people it wasn't the fault of poor old stalin he was such a lovely man he

00:16:48.020 just really had to suffer from the czars before all those hundreds of years in which he didn't have 0.98

00:16:53.160 the opportunity to rectify the impoverishment in this country so he had to kill them yep this is 0.80

00:16:58.040 really integral to wokeness because wokeness separates the population to oppressed and oppressors and 0.74

00:17:03.760 whoever is named an oppressed can do no wrong so they have been targeted for they have been targeted

00:17:10.860 as oppressors anything that they do is wrong and no one should speak about them because they can't be

00:17:17.060 victims and if anyone insists that they are they can be victims of racism but also of bad policies that's a far

00:17:24.440 right conspiracy as far as the left is concerned which is ridiculous so south africa here criticized the u.s

00:17:30.580 as trying to interfere with its constitutional democracy and uh he they are talking about this 0.90

00:17:38.040 move as being a politically motivated i think that this is just just ridiculous trump responded by

00:17:44.940 describing uh africaners as victims of racial discrimination and that as you can guess violates

00:17:53.940 the tenets of the woke ideology doesn't the south african constitution say that uh racist laws are

00:18:03.300 illegal unless they serve the cause of racial justice yes something ridiculous some kind of 0.63

00:18:09.300 ridiculous i wasn't aware of that yeah yeah that's something interesting that's how social justice is

00:18:14.620 being weaponized in order to promote the the special interest will unless it's against the right 0.65

00:18:20.980 people exactly yeah yes that's you know unless it's against the racist i don't like in which

00:18:26.100 case racism is fine that's perfectly okay and it's just that's how the legal racism legal racism legal

00:18:31.940 racism and that's embedded in the constitution and that's another constant i'm gonna have to look

00:18:36.740 that line and that constitution was praised by the un and by all the expert classes right as being

00:18:42.780 incredibly fair and and so on it's okay and i want to show you some reactions and i think they fit

00:18:49.300 the power the pattern we're talking about perfectly so here we have someone called kim hello next 0.96

00:18:54.420 saying nelson mandela extended the hand of reconciliation to white south africans after we

00:19:00.340 committed acts of inhumanity against black south africans and we have failed the humanity test we have 0.94

00:19:06.420 largely remained unrepentant and racist i want to say that this is textbook ecophobia ecophobia is the

00:19:13.940 hatred of one civilization there's a great book by benedict beckeld on it who i have interviewed

00:19:19.540 multiple times this is really tied to wokeness in a way because it shows how and according to that

00:19:26.820 theory towards the end of some civilizations basically every civilization there is a tendency to identify

00:19:33.220 with others with and constantly view their own people as bad and as guilty and as the worst thing

00:19:43.140 ever it is portrayed as a virtue it is portrayed as a virtue within that theory to say bad things

00:19:51.060 about you but also this is deeply hypocritical because it completely robs people of agency yeah

00:19:56.340 yeah we're looking at it's there it's made very clear in the word we yes we it's not trust it's

00:20:02.020 we remain unrepentant and racist yes so the framing here is a framing of original sin absolutely the

00:20:08.420 framing here is a framing of original sin and that's the only way to make fun to make sense of it yeah

00:20:13.220 it's it's essentially a christian heresy where christian charity is extended to extremes against towards

00:20:23.140 rivals and is denied to friends and that's the essence of heresy really we have here from blue

00:20:32.500 sky someone called john crier saying trump has been a racist for decades as he violently expels legal

00:20:39.140 immigrants of color he invites white refugees from south africa i think this is a perfect response because 0.99

00:20:44.660 they're obvious they are using racism yet again why because trump wants to grant refugee status to

00:20:52.980 people who are victims of racist policies there's no other way about it i mean i don't know who john

00:20:59.460 crier is i mean certainly peter creel there that line that every white south african is racist every 0.55

00:21:06.580 white englishman is racist every brexit every racist is a brexiteer you heard that line when through the 0.96

00:21:13.860 campaign it's every it's all of one color you can only be one and if you happen to be like me peter 0.99

00:21:19.940 creel a white person i must flagellate myself by throwing this kind of what are those irons that

00:21:26.100 they have in in iran across my back to prosecute myself to their knee on my knees to them this is a 0.72

00:21:33.940 it's a dream there's another one saying here make no mistake trump is bringing those afrikaners here to 0.99

00:21:38.980 be violent extremists just like how they were in south africa stay vigilant i think this is just 0.98

00:21:45.620 ridiculous so instead of the kkk it's going to be the aaa it's uh incredible yeah we have dr alison 0.99

00:21:55.620 wills giving us yet another delusional take white south africans should not come to america we don't 1.00

00:22:01.060 need any more racist people we're full to the brim we need more no don't need any more white people 0.99

00:22:06.020 sorry open brackets hold on if you go back to that one she says black people cannot be racist yes i think 0.98

00:22:12.420 that comes to the essential religious element of it that's right the perversity is this original sin

00:22:20.180 is ascribed to every single human being we're all we all carry the burden of original sin

00:22:26.580 in the woke heresy some groups do and some groups don't there are pure groups and there are dirty groups

00:22:34.740 that's why that's why wokeness invariably results on a morally complacent two-tier system yes and that's

00:22:41.300 what it justifies it justifies in this case it is weaponized against white people in every case

00:22:47.140 pretty much yeah i'm sometimes against asians yes asians are seen as white adjacent and therefore

00:22:52.420 equally guilty of white supremacy same with same the jews anyone from israel same with jews yeah 0.84

00:22:58.900 right and here we have yet another one colin robinson saying i don't want any new white people from 0.99

00:23:04.180 south africa in my town i'm racist racist racist can't even spell calling yeah i think that's a 0.97

00:23:11.300 yeah there you go that's not even your image maybe that's a trolling one yeah right so definitely check

00:23:16.660 out the interview josh did with ernst von zil about the fate of south africa and it's really important and

00:23:23.540 we will go back to the issue because it looks like south africa is the is close to the end point of what this

00:23:30.820 ridiculous critical race theory is doing in the west and we don't want to emulate this we shouldn't

00:23:38.260 import this we shouldn't we shouldn't emulate this 0.95

00:23:43.380 right so let's let's go to the read the comments oh ph uk

00:23:50.180 well i can't read this out loud i can't read please don't uh stop with the fat posting

00:23:58.020 we can't read some comments out loud right so are we going to talk about very brexit things now

00:24:05.380 yeah no this is this this in a way one likes to say the phrase shocking but it just generally isn't

00:24:12.180 anymore i think we've got to a stage where most of us are surprised if this doesn't happen on a daily

00:24:17.460 basis huge amount of interest over the weekend for many people in the press if everyone's seen it

00:24:23.540 about uh this 71 year old pensioner julian forks this is the individual here uh julian is from

00:24:32.820 gillingham in kent and during the course of the past few months six officers from the kent police force

00:24:41.540 piled onto his house camera footage capturing him and arresting him for a free speech attack the idea

00:24:50.580 that this six 71 year old 69 i think he was at the time this was happening was a danger to society

00:24:56.580 looking at look at him i can see the muscles there you know he clearly has archetypal tattoos of nazis

00:25:02.740 all over him guns behind him etc etc he's really a massive threat that requires six burley police

00:25:09.220 officers turning up at his house and arresting him for for a tweet he also had some suspicious

00:25:16.340 literature oh no we've we we're going to come come to that so i just want to give the basic story on

00:25:22.100 there you as we run through this they ran through his belongings including all his personal pictures

00:25:29.060 about his daughter who died killed by a drunk driver hit and run whilst on holiday in ibiza and all that

00:25:36.420 one of the officers said is are that sad i mean i'm sorry but for first of all any of those six officers

00:25:41.700 just turning around saying ah that's sad should be holding their heads in shame for the utter disgrace

00:25:46.500 that they have for filing through an individual's memory and images of their daughter who'd been

00:25:52.180 killed that's a personal thing for someone who's got children to do that but what base in humanity in

00:25:57.860 the way that they approach when you look at the video and this is from a body cam that he got from

00:26:02.260 his own uh freedom of information requests and gdpr requests that he got he was searched uh then they took

00:26:10.420 him to uh to the kent police station uh where he admitted a caution for a breach of i think at the

00:26:19.940 time it's not very clear but i i suspect it was malicious ah there we are malicious communications i

00:26:25.300 don't know which section that they had him on he said at the time he admitted it because he was

00:26:30.980 frightened he wouldn't be able to go and see his remaining daughter in australia and have an impact the

00:26:35.220 interesting point about this chap is that he actually worked as a police officer for 10 years in the

00:26:39.700 same station as most of these in there um and and and that is generally the crux of it at this stage

00:26:48.580 so i i think one of the things i put here next is that um this what is it that he actually said

00:26:59.860 and this is it so it's suela braveman i put up a tweet complaining about the hate marches that were

00:27:06.900 going on and calling those uh who were anti-semites at the time and it's very clear that some of the

00:27:12.740 people were chanting for hammers down with israel down with jews and some of that language was clearly

00:27:17.700 anti-semitic this individual mr ethical whoever he was uh said i will call me an anti-semit i will sue

00:27:25.700 sue you and julian fuchs had been talking about uh a particular incident in dagestan in russia

00:27:31.940 yeah where individuals had stormed the plane to pull jews off that plane yeah and he was saying it 1.00

00:27:38.420 was this language and what happened in the hate marches clearly i can read it as that is one step

00:27:45.060 away from storming heathrow looking for jewish uh arrivals so for me that is saying that someone 0.99

00:27:51.220 hates jews and he was being pro the jewish community and supporting their rights to live and

00:27:57.620 exist i can see that in there that is not what the uh police said they actually said that he was being

00:28:05.460 anti-semitic and that's one of the reasons why they were looking into him now they're that thick are

00:28:12.660 they yeah i mean i clearly are but i'm gonna point to who the thickos are in this because it all links

00:28:18.580 into my current campaign against our security services and people involved in them uh they are

00:28:23.940 either are that thick or they're deeply malicious themselves as individuals and that they're kind

00:28:29.060 of internal souls in my view are becoming darkened by the every day that they're working in these

00:28:34.100 institutions if they're willing to seek out individuals like this and and i'm trying to find

00:28:40.020 the clip if it's there of i thought there was a video on here that that you could actually see

00:28:47.620 it may well be in this where you do it and i want to play it because there is a clip in here

00:28:52.660 about looking at these books here here we go can we is that the turning if they think

00:28:58.820 that they're quite safe and they can just sit at home and maybe just knock out a little tweet that um

00:29:04.580 you know they think we could stop there just just just just be i can get that look at that book that

00:29:12.260 is a brexit book the demise of free speech that was i i mean i particularly read it i may still have

00:29:17.940 it in my on my own library um but i don't i'm not sure whether you clearly hear what is said by the

00:29:24.820 police officer but we've got quotes of the climate out there no she says to her colleague oh look at

00:29:33.460 this it's a very brexit-y thing as though this amounted to the dangerous individual and then they

00:29:42.340 turned around to other books that that he had including the death of europe yep and said look

00:29:51.540 at this this is a form of extremism for having that book on his shelf i can't understand how they are

00:30:01.700 saying that they went to investigate him for an anti-semitic comment which i mean there are endless

00:30:10.340 anti-semitic comments absolutely you will make but they cited also a book by douglas murray who isn't

00:30:16.020 exactly against israel no he's not exactly against israel but he is a brexiteer and he's got language

00:30:21.860 about how the world could change so badly that doesn't fit into our agenda but it's a danger

00:30:27.220 this man is a danger because he's got a book on freedom connected to leaving the european union and

00:30:32.740 he's got books on immigration and this is deeply concerning about what is in the mindset of those

00:30:38.740 police officers at that time what is the training that the college of police are giving them what

00:30:43.700 is it they're saying about malicious communications to fit into that particular act that they go away

00:30:48.980 and say that this is so dangerous and then they pull him off obviously as we're scrolling down you've

00:30:53.300 got here chris philp uh the home shadow home secretary saying it's completely unacceptable um and my

00:31:00.580 point about is looking at this is not just the material and and what is said and the whole scenario

00:31:07.300 because he's not the first we've we've had uh alison um sorry person we've had others arrested for

00:31:15.540 tweets really and we've led us to jd vance saying britain is no longer a free country because of that

00:31:22.820 but who is it it's doing it and one of the points that i looked at from that was reading through the

00:31:27.940 articles and we we talked about it and coming down here was that it said that the kent police here

00:31:35.860 had been seen only by 26 times 26 times this has been seen by 26 26 people it wasn't the individual

00:31:44.900 i expected to have complained about this which is the individual that he was replying to no the x had

00:31:51.380 not been reported by the public it was reported by a specialist met unit usually focused on terrorism

00:31:59.460 and extremism and this is where i think we've now delved into something much deeper much darker and

00:32:05.300 much more dangerous so i had to have a look into finding out who they were and who it is and this

00:32:10.820 is the organization that's involved in it this was the specific group within the counter-terrorism

00:32:16.980 policing within the met it's counter-terrorism demand they're the ones now who are looking at the

00:32:23.220 levels of threats and you see in the corner there we have a current level threat of substantial in the

00:32:28.980 uk for terrorism justify their jobs but they're too weak to do anything about jihadi risks yes and so 0.75

00:32:36.420 instead they try to focus on a 71 year old guy yeah on reading a brexit book on uh what's their name

00:32:43.620 caroline faro yes on a few other types of this sort who are clearly

00:32:48.500 not any kind of physical threat to anyone no in any shape way or form but they can't do anything

00:32:56.740 about the physical threats and they were too cowardly to stop salman abdi because they thought

00:33:01.300 that that might be yes racist that's right absolutely so these i love how this links to the south africa

00:33:07.220 story because it sort of shows you how it's a pattern yes and it shows you an ideology it's more

00:33:13.460 than a pattern yes it's it's a it's a system of beliefs it's an ideology that's deeply embedded

00:33:21.140 into the psyche of the leadership of this country the actual leadership not the elected leadership

00:33:26.340 yeah and of the west in general and it's horrific it is horrific how people who are employed by the

00:33:34.900 counter-terrorism policing they go okay quite legitimately i want to stop people dying in a bomb in manchester

00:33:42.340 god good on you well done i'm behind you every minute of the day if only you'd actually arrest

00:33:46.740 the people who were about to do it instead of a 71 year old but you're sitting there looking at this

00:33:51.940 tweet looking at who it is having to identify where this person lives working out he's a 69 year old

00:33:58.820 man and you're going to yourself hmm let's have a glance down here is he a man found with 3d printing

00:34:06.180 firearm manual sentencing for terrorism offenses no he's not one of them is he a former soldier

00:34:12.260 jailing over spying for iran hmm no he's not one of them what about a russian spying operation is he

00:34:18.340 going to give our secrets out to russkies no he's not one of them he reads a brexit book

00:34:25.460 that was god arrest him now after they went to his book after they went to his house though yeah

00:34:30.900 because it's not that the the accusation i mean if we take no i appreciate that it's not that if

00:34:36.420 they went to the they went to the house on the pretense that this is a brexiteer yeah went to the

00:34:42.100 house on the pretense of anti-semitism which is weird because there there are lots of anti-semitic

00:34:47.780 comments that they do nothing absolutely but also there's the issue of free speech there is the issue

00:34:52.180 of free speech we've got that but there would also being the super counter-terrorism policing they are no

00:34:57.380 doubt it would not just cross their minds just to scroll up on his feed maybe just look up and see

00:35:03.860 what he actually says many of us done and say nope doesn't seem anything there but no clearly is at the

00:35:09.540 top of the list to join this special array of individuals and groups of people as a mass terrorist

00:35:15.700 for britain and uh of course the the reaction is we've seen it in allison pearson it's not new

00:35:22.500 these individuals were involved in doing this and then identifying which police force has to go to

00:35:28.500 your home allison pearson had a claim against her they then apologized then they didn't apologize then 0.75

00:35:37.060 they apologized again then they said we don't know if it's even right then they said it's wrong then an

00:35:42.100 independent organization said they should have actually charged her with an nch they are just not

00:35:47.780 sure about what to do when they're up against people like her who are obviously well known yes

00:35:54.020 and and get this but we'd have not really known about mr fuchs if it wasn't for the free speech union i

00:36:02.740 know uh and and and toby young who hates to be called lord toby young i have to admit he's said that many

00:36:08.820 times his organization is growing enormously and it shouldn't have to yeah he's now got 29 000 members i think

00:36:17.300 they've got five permanent lawyers they've got 200 cases on the on the go across the country protecting

00:36:25.140 people like julian fuchs and if they had not come and supported him then the police would not have

00:36:34.340 backed off no and that's what's terrifying yeah it's just not acceptable in our world on free speech

00:36:42.980 or anything else that an individual like that should be and so i'm quite happy that they're

00:36:47.540 suing for wrongful arrest and unlawful detention i think that this is really important and what

00:36:53.140 they are doing at the free speech union is literally god's work because a lot of people want free free

00:36:59.220 speech for themselves but not for others yes and it's important to uphold free speech because it if we

00:37:06.020 don't uphold free speech we are giving the illusion that the state is going to do everything for us

00:37:12.100 yes but it's not going to do this it's essentially being lazy it's outsourcing responsibility that we

00:37:17.940 have as citizens to speak our minds and think freely look i take a slightly different view i think every

00:37:25.860 state has a dogma and will try to protect its dogma i think what we should recognize is that the police

00:37:32.740 are enforcing the state's dogma depends how you mean that they're going to enforce the dogma

00:37:39.060 well in this case through the threats of prison or actual placing people in prison we saw it with

00:37:44.980 the southport incident where they pretended that there was a massive far-right conspiracy and they

00:37:51.300 locked people up for facebook posts but you never hear about people being locked up for you know pro

00:37:58.020 palestinian posts or pro-palestinian positions not that i'd want them to do so but there is a state

00:38:04.260 dogma that is being enforced but some call it's the nature of the state to have a dogma and to have a

00:38:09.860 set of beliefs and we should just be honest about that i agree with you on this the question is how

00:38:15.140 restrictive they are quite absolutely some people who want to literally ban every criticism of the

00:38:21.940 the left will not be satisfied until they have total control yeah the last the left will not be

00:38:26.740 satisfied until they're back in the days of communist land again when they have a few people

00:38:30.820 and this is their nature and the problem is there's a depth of thought in in previous incarnations of

00:38:36.340 my life i've met senior police officers yes whose sole goal is that we need to protect the public and

00:38:41.140 the way that we need to protect the public is to give me more and more weapons on the street i want

00:38:45.620 my police officer all to be armed i want to have more legislation to be able to lock people up and keep

00:38:50.340 them locked up for as long period of time so they have this determination in their psychology

00:38:55.460 that they are the determinants yes the determinants of what is right and wrong in this country

00:39:00.500 and and they pretend that it's the politicians and the people that want that but they lost policing

00:39:07.460 by consensus decades ago now it's policing by coercion yes yes it's no longer a question of consent

00:39:15.780 it's um it's a very naked enforcement of a dogma adopted by a tiny minority of people

00:39:22.980 but that has gained disproportionate power through control of the institutions and what and what i

00:39:27.700 find deeply surprising upsetting is because the vast majority of people that are working within the

00:39:34.020 police between the criminal justice system and the cps are honest decent individuals who really want to

00:39:40.980 have the whole proper crimes of individuals sought out and dealt with those you know whether it's a rape a

00:39:47.460 burglary whether it's someone committing violent assaults as i was just seeing in the streets here in

00:39:52.180 swindon before i arrived uh today and what i saw in in paddington last week it seems to be the eruption

00:39:58.980 of violence at normal parts of the day now yes those people are being dragged into it unwittingly and

00:40:04.660 unkindly for them by a small minority of individuals who are committed minority is always more effective

00:40:12.580 than the complacent majority yeah and there must be a criticism leveled at the public in the west please

00:40:20.420 accept it from me as an outsider okay the public has become very complacent because it's lost its

00:40:27.220 sense of history and belonging and identity the western public doesn't know what it is anymore

00:40:33.700 it doesn't understand its own legacy it doesn't understand its own identity it doesn't understand its

00:40:38.260 own dogma that underpins its assumptions and that has resulted in this minority being able to push

00:40:46.100 against an open door using all kinds of nasty tactics without facing consequences a more aware

00:40:54.180 public wouldn't have allowed things to get so far but the rot is old and we're experiencing the climax

00:41:01.140 of it now as a result of this loss of respect for what the west historically has been and i get that and

00:41:09.940 i i understand and i i deeply feel that many in our country just forgotten who we are and what we are

00:41:15.780 but i also understand that through history for example myself as a student of the peterloo massacres

00:41:20.900 in manchester where i was from the same individuals that took charge of the the murder of individuals

00:41:27.700 children and all in peterloo just because they were attending a freedom of speech event of we'd call

00:41:34.820 it now but really a whole act of saying that women should be participating in society all of them

00:41:41.140 were massacred but then they also had the same uh kind of police as it was then in in those terms and

00:41:46.820 judges that sentenced individuals for those same acts in a similar way to do that those individuals

00:41:53.140 existed then i just think like you say that kind of characterization of those individuals is spread

00:42:00.260 further down yes and there's no fight back yes there's no defense of the individuals within the

00:42:06.260 institutions yep and we have to rely on free speech unions and then an apology came obviously as a

00:42:13.620 consequence of that uh you know and and but it's not a fulsome apology as we'd expect he did ring him up

00:42:21.460 and he said look i apologize for it um you know for for for this uh and i i think this was in the jewish

00:42:28.340 chronicle uh and it just simply says that i i'm sorry and then you have that but i i look at this

00:42:35.300 and i go um this is a really interesting article by sam ashworth hayes actually in some ways it's

00:42:41.940 following on what you've just been saying first it's talking about how the raids over social media

00:42:48.180 is showing a country no longer at ease with itself and it's actually now using the police to determine

00:42:54.740 what is fair between groups of individuals yes rather than policing by consent they're looking

00:43:00.580 at who's the biggest group who's the most vocal who's the most violent and we're saying we'll leave

00:43:06.900 them alone yes and who's the one that's most amenable who's the softest who's the easiest to

00:43:12.820 attack put in prison on an opposing group who might have a differing of opinion the 71 year old let's

00:43:19.300 arrest him and that is not an acceptable element for our society no and i i think we're working on

00:43:30.260 this as a basis uh looking over here do we really i mean in in your views now i've i've been listening

00:43:36.980 to some podcasts from like um on the other side who say that we're not in a two-tier policing system

00:43:42.740 it's actually just us really defending the rights of liberalism in here i i think that's just

00:43:49.620 straightforwardly false the ideology of the current state is wokeness wokeness invariably results

00:43:57.060 the two-tier society the very structure of the ideology says in order to address historic injustices

00:44:03.860 we need to do we need to give affirmative action and we need to help the oppressed

00:44:14.100 so this is this is what they are literally saying it is just hidden in plain sight yeah more than

00:44:21.060 affirmative action we need to punish the descendants of people who are supposed to have wronged other 0.93

00:44:26.900 groups um so so so so it's more than that and i fail to see how this guy was a threat to liberalism

00:44:36.260 or how alison pearson is is a threat to liberalism i i failed to see it too i i just uh the the the

00:44:43.620 the pretense of liberalism is that the organs of the state are ideologically neutral and should be

00:44:49.780 ideologically neutral we're seeing the exact i don't agree with this but we'll have lots of uh time

00:44:55.060 where we discuss this sure sure sure sure sure uh but we're seeing a complete lack of neutrality

00:45:01.940 on the part of the oregon's of the state uh tommy robinson is in isolation but axel rudabadanka

00:45:08.820 whatever his last name is he's free to throw boiling water boiling water and and so is the brother of

00:45:14.180 the of of the manchester bomber and so are numerous i see connolly who does a tweet is still locked up and

00:45:19.860 not even given her rights under law that enable her to actually go out and see her family when they're

00:45:23.860 ill or sick or dying you see this time and time and time and again the state has a dogma every

00:45:31.700 state will have a dogma the pretense of neutral neutrality isn't there and i i agree i'm looking

00:45:37.540 at that and what we're saying flows very clearly i think to that paragraph there which uh he says as

00:45:43.380 britain has become more diverse the state has reordered itself around this new reality yes nation

00:45:48.820 states homogenous and governed as such slowly leads into a cultural and institutional frameworks that

00:45:53.860 allow for luxuries such as policing of consent of a singular community yeah the incentives given by

00:46:00.100 this model are very perverse yes to be on it sorry yeah no no go ahead to be honest i want to say that

00:46:06.260 i think that basically this is anarcho-tyranny because they are saying well look at the i can't

00:46:11.940 understand exactly what it is that they go after here so i can't understand exactly what the dogma is but

00:46:17.620 i agree with you that there is one yes in this case i don't know exactly what they went after

00:46:21.860 but they did seem to go after a man that couldn't defend himself in a way yes and they understood

00:46:28.580 that there would be no they thought that there was going to be no backlash yes in a way that they

00:46:33.700 thought that there would be a backlash if they investigated the grooming gangs yes because the

00:46:38.500 number of times that there was no backlash they assumed that this time would be no different yeah and

00:46:45.140 i think what's happening is you know i've recently been in meetings with people saying

00:46:49.940 well okay we've we've watched what's happened on the left that they've organized we've hope not

00:46:55.860 hey they've organized the lgbt movement around one one organization that's infiltrated

00:47:04.100 different businesses to have a particular agenda we've got seen what's happened the black lives matter

00:47:08.980 movement when we saw a black individual who's looked as though he was a criminal then we'd suddenly 1.00

00:47:14.340 say he died we can all defend itself for a political void why are we not doing the same

00:47:18.900 and i think we are beginning to get there i've seen it on different organization free speech union is

00:47:23.620 obviously a very important part of that movement to say no we we need to stand up in exactly the same way

00:47:30.820 and movement that suggests is different think tanks that work together different voices that work

00:47:35.940 together organizations that fight back um because otherwise as this article suggests we might get

00:47:41.940 to where david betts is saying we've explicitly organized our country to be split to fractionalize

00:47:47.620 polarized that could lead to a civil conflict that's the nature of diverse societies in a diverse society

00:47:53.620 all politics is identity politics yes because all politics involves a question of identity when we say

00:48:00.420 we're in politics we're pursuing the common good well what's common if you have different identities

00:48:05.780 and what's good if you have different values yes these because it becomes impossible to define a common

00:48:11.380 good outside of a particular identity so it stops being about common good it starts being about good for us

00:48:19.300 and there are many different us's in a diverse society and that's what's happening in britain and now what

00:48:24.900 you're saying is that the throughout the west the europeans are becoming aware again that they're a

00:48:31.540 separate identity and a separate group and the real risk is that this will turn completely nichean and

00:48:39.380 and much more dangerous and that common good if you're going back in history we obviously had king

00:48:44.020 alfred that decided he needed to bring christianity as the common good to unite england we yes we

00:48:51.620 we eventually had to make the vikings who were opposed to that eventually join into that we saw that

00:48:57.380 are going across europe when we created a common good which related to certain values and principles

00:49:03.300 common law principles what i get with the liberals and that those of the liberal views of the alistair

00:49:08.260 campbells of this world is that for some reason they think that the us the many groups can unite

00:49:15.460 themselves around just the symbols of the house of commons yes they can relate themselves just the

00:49:21.460 fact they live in england and we have a vote well his friend rory rory stewart should have taught

00:49:25.940 him how well that worked in iraq absolutely he should have been able to explain things to him but rory

00:49:31.700 stewart is sort of too blinkered to be able to explain anything to anyone and i and this is where

00:49:38.340 we're all breaking down in all the different scenarios with south africa in this i think i'm

00:49:42.660 just going to whip through a couple of these looking at the timing levels we've got here um so that was

00:49:47.460 where sam was saying we're terrified of of of revolt and free speech crackdowns like this won't save

00:49:55.060 them i want to just very very quickly say this is a long-term plan in some ways um maybe born out of

00:50:02.580 the kind of initial race relations act of 1965 which was quite broad in a sense in that it was just

00:50:09.780 looking in line and saying we shouldn't allow people not to have jobs just because of different

00:50:13.940 color or different religions and i think it was like the classic liberalism that we had about the

00:50:18.740 fairness yeah but the language that was went within that was the base the basic point of which has been

00:50:25.940 built on by various legislations thereafter i mean i think i've got a couple of screenshots here

00:50:32.420 we've led us to the malicious communications act now so you've had these various iterations starting from

00:50:38.260 then and we've had them literally every five to eight years of a new piece of race relations acts

00:50:45.540 human rights acts and now we'll communication acts in the 19 uh late 1970s early 80s to the tony blair's

00:50:54.980 malicious communications act 1988 which has now been extended upon and applied through the college of

00:51:01.140 policing so you make the idea you send an electronic message that conveys indecent grossly offensive

00:51:08.180 threatening material or information now it's not just that it's offensive it's not grossly offensive

00:51:15.700 in there it's simply offensive and in law as a lawyer grossly offensive had a distinct meaning

00:51:22.660 it was quite extreme it was quite severe what you had to say but the principle of being offended was

00:51:29.540 still there through what we saw early on in the the police officer saying a very brexit thing is any

00:51:35.860 offense uh that was there now um now on here suela braverman comes out like many others and says

00:51:43.540 it's an outrageous attack uh um demonstrating the serious crisis facing freedom of speech in the uk

00:51:50.980 we live in dangerous times when you face a knock on the door for the police for speaking the truth

00:51:57.380 law-abiding men shouldn't be investigated for non government at any point uh yes she was and indeed

00:52:03.140 she was the home secretary and she says she tried to get rid of nthis and uh all this legislation

00:52:11.060 but they too were in power she allowed it to happen she was in our government for 14 years that is now

00:52:18.020 with chris philps and everybody else saying that it's gone too far um and yet they were there but i

00:52:24.260 want people to kind of close your eyes remove suela braverman from that remove the fact of the words in

00:52:31.540 the uk and put gdr russia czechoslovakia poland hungary it was the same language there that would have been

00:52:44.260 said about anyone under those communistic rules and it's now we're using the same phraseology when you

00:52:50.900 face a knock on the door for the police for speaking the truth in the uk yep and how i just

00:53:00.260 i entered law law because i genuinely believe that we had a common law system that was to enable

00:53:07.060 ourselves to imprison those and capture those who have committed serious crimes but we had this

00:53:12.500 underlying principle of freedom of speech the ability not just to be able to enter your home for the

00:53:17.780 sake of it how did i go from just 20 30 years ago of studying law to becoming a barrister to get into a

00:53:25.460 situation where today i'm looking at language being used in my country against those i opposed in communist

00:53:32.900 communist east you became just as atheist as the communist east and that's it that's what happened it

00:53:39.300 it was the explosion of atheism and unbelief that has allowed this in in in a real sense because

00:53:48.420 to have any free speech is not the principle the principle is the right to speak the truth freely

00:53:55.380 or at least your best guess at the truth yes this is why there are libel laws and free speech if you say

00:54:01.620 something thinking that it's true that should be a defense if you say something that is true that is

00:54:07.620 a defense under the system it isn't yeah and the reason is because the state has become god

00:54:16.340 filling the gap left by the godlessness of society or it just has found a way to approach arbitrariness

00:54:25.780 which is what lots of status want they want arbitrary rule and what they found was that they could 0.94

00:54:30.900 weaponize the harm principle that says physical harm should be penalized and they say okay let's find

00:54:39.380 let's include the psychological one yeah psychological one is a is a subjective category it gives tremendous

00:54:47.620 power to those who have the power to interpret the law but it can adjudicate in any way it isn't arbitrary

00:54:54.100 it is it's no it's highly selective your average sermon in a decent mosque should visit should result

00:55:04.660 in five ten police visits and then you see the police saying no jihad has a spiritual meaning

00:55:10.420 not really we're not they weren't talking about armed jihad as if they'd know the difference

00:55:14.820 so it's not arbitrary if they are using double standards isn't it arbitrary no why because you have

00:55:22.180 decided that there is a hierarchy and that in this hierarchy this group is protected and this group is

00:55:28.260 targeted arbitrary implies that randomly muslims will get a knock on the door because something in the quran 1.00

00:55:36.260 is offensive to christians or to jews and they said it in public and therefore they'll they'll they'll

00:55:41.380 they'll receive uh punishment from the state and i suppose that never happens and i suppose it's also

00:55:45.700 looking at arbitrary would be whether it's a different chief of police in a particular area would say that

00:55:50.820 personally is one that we should follow up guys let's go and look at that because it's it's just

00:55:55.860 not right for us at this particular time the point is though that they could use it against muslims in

00:56:00.660 the future as well they could nothing prevents them from doing so nothing prevents them from doing so

00:56:06.180 except for the mob and the threat of of the mob i'm talking about from a state perspective that they

00:56:13.540 could but anyway we're hijinking no no no and this is exactly what i wanted to bring out because it's really

00:56:18.660 important when you talk about the mob all i think about is is what happened with cicero in rome you

00:56:24.020 know at the time that you know caesar wanted to take power he used others to actually gear up the mob

00:56:30.740 to actually challenge challenge him and challenge others that were opposed to caesar even though caesar

00:56:36.580 wasn't in power he bided his time and then he managed to work his way through the mob it was able to

00:56:43.300 be arbitrary about who they wanted but it wasn't arbitrary at the top they were using the legislation

00:56:48.820 as that time to be able to select which groups and individuals they could take down of course at that

00:56:54.020 time the individuals were much more powerful people in the senate there were the military those backers

00:56:59.460 who were financially supporting them and what we have here is i think it's looking back back your

00:57:05.540 point we have this kind of ideology of individuals thinking i'm in a nice comfortable safe place

00:57:11.380 i'm a white chief chief prosecutor chief of police i'm a white politician like rory i'm living in my

00:57:18.020 nice house i've got my nice money all the rest of it and all these poor white working class over there 1.00

00:57:22.340 they're not near me at the moment they're there but we do have others coming in and they look like

00:57:27.220 they've got their billionaires behind them they've got their supporters coming in buying the businesses

00:57:32.100 i'll stick with them for the time being because it keeps me and my family comfortable and i will work

00:57:38.180 with them because they're the new future yeah it's it's a sort of decision to rub the noses of the

00:57:46.180 right and diversity and to benefit from that politically well i'm going to try and finish

00:57:50.500 off with two things one is because this will annoy uh the left and the wokes because here we go this was

00:57:56.980 malcolm x i read a lot of malcolm x when i was 17 18 and 19 malcolm x william dubois uh all the rest of it

00:58:04.580 um and he says here this was an interesting point when he was kind of having i don't know whether it

00:58:09.380 was a damascene conversion completely but he was starting to think differently when you have to pass

00:58:13.780 a law to make a man let me have a house or you have to pass a law to make a man to let me go to school

00:58:18.340 or you pass a law to make a man walk down the street you have to enforce that law and you have

00:58:22.340 to be living actually in a police state it would take a police state in this country applies to south

00:58:27.940 africa today but i i've kind of looking at that saying in many ways that's where we are now yeah

00:58:34.580 looking at this so i kind of changed i had a play on it this morning i was thinking about how i can

00:58:38.500 turn it around when you have to pass a law to make someone let me speak my mind or you have to pass a

00:58:42.900 law to make someone let me share my views online or you have to pass a law to make someone let me

00:58:47.060 express my beliefs in public you have to enforce that law and you'd be living in a police state it would

00:58:52.260 take a police state in this country to protect free speech through such laws yep that is my

00:58:57.620 interpretation of a malcolm x phrase that he applied the left won't like it and certainly we

00:59:02.820 shouldn't like it and sadly i feel that this is mr fuchs is an example of something that will only get

00:59:08.660 worse in here unless we do have more free you know free speech attacks and challenging them

00:59:14.660 great okay so let's go and read some comments the hapsification don't worry our alleged coke 0.95

00:59:20.820 head leaders will save us sigil stone 17 says showing the population within quotation marks

00:59:28.980 violence works really isn't the message the government wants to send it tends to end badly

00:59:33.460 for politicians and police officers so they're truly retarded for this and the hapsification the 1.00

00:59:40.420 old adage of force is the supreme authority in which all authority is derived from it from is

00:59:46.260 becoming visible to people well right so now we need to go to the third segment and we will take

00:59:53.060 some extra time to sure do this so your first segment good luck thank you very much thank you very

00:59:59.620 much so on the back of this discussion can the catholic church save the west and i would argue here

01:00:07.940 that really it is pretty much the only hope for saving the west so you say that you want to be

01:00:13.620 trad based and conservative let's meet mr louis de bourbon the duke d'anjou who is um the claimant

01:00:21.940 to the throne of france he wants to reverse the french revolution he wants to make france into a

01:00:26.580 kingdom again as far as i'm concerned that's about as trad and based as it gets and his initial reaction

01:00:33.940 to the election of a new pope it is with great joy that i learned of the election of the successor of

01:00:39.780 saint peter i assure his holiness pope leo the 14th of my greatest fidelity and my most fervent prayers

01:00:47.860 we saw some attacks on the pope from people claiming to be trad based and conservative

01:00:52.820 themselves and i wanted to just highlight that the most traditional and conservative live actor

01:00:59.300 has a slightly different uh position but before getting into that it's worth understanding well why do

01:01:05.140 we have a pope and why do we have a papacy um we can go through the religious and spiritual arguments

01:01:11.940 this was the um inheritance given to saint peter by jesus christ and there has always been a united church

01:01:21.460 and it is still the catholic church but there is a little bit more to it um we've seen we've run the

01:01:31.540 experiment we've seen the outcome of different kinds of christianity and i think they've more or

01:01:38.980 less hit a dead end we had the first disagreement with orthodoxy with orthodoxy part of the disagreement

01:01:45.620 was a bit about the uh conflict between the state and the church the role of caesar and the role of the

01:01:52.180 church with the catholic church asserting that it is an independent moral authority that gets to govern

01:02:00.660 itself regardless of what temporal authorities want why is this important because when the temporal

01:02:08.260 authority is also the moral authority it will justify any action that it takes and claim that it is

01:02:14.820 moral kind of like what the british state is doing kind of like what communist states have done throughout

01:02:19.860 time what's happening in south africa the state says what we're doing is right everything that we do is

01:02:26.820 right we are the arbiters of right and wrong and the catholic church is saying no there is a separate

01:02:33.060 authority as pope galatius put it there are two authorities a temporal and a spiritual and the

01:02:40.580 temporal would be wise to accept the authority of the spiritual over it but it can't be imposed by force

01:02:47.220 and this is one of the arguments was taken when we had three popes charlemagne all that area where

01:02:51.380 we're challenging whether a king had the ability to take over that view another saying nope and

01:02:56.260 sorry it is divisible it it is one authority indivisible vested in the church meaning divisible with

01:03:03.620 the pope you you've got yours and we we has the church have exactly exactly okay so the church gets to

01:03:10.340 appoint its own bishops the church gets to decide on its own matters and the pontiff is sovereign the pope is

01:03:17.380 sovereign he governs the church and nobody gets to interfere with him um huge dispute throughout

01:03:25.460 christian history the orthodox took a slightly different view in some cases elevating the role

01:03:32.740 of caesar or the tsar uh to give him greater authority over the state and choosing to govern by councils

01:03:42.100 and by kind of consensus rather than having a single head and anyone who's been on a committee

01:03:49.940 knows the dangers of yes but governing in this way but also the orthodox countries have been surprisingly

01:03:57.620 resistant to wokeness and all the relate the ridiculous because you didn't have to deal with

01:04:03.940 protestantism no because wokeness is the direct descendant of the protestant claim

01:04:11.460 um that everybody is his own moral authority and gets to decide based on his reading of the scripture

01:04:20.100 um we are going to talk about protestants and the wonderful things that they have brought us

01:04:28.100 um and even though orthodoxy has been has had less problems with wokeness we have seen the orthodox

01:04:39.300 church take a not very solid view on abortion and a not very solid view on divorce so there's been this

01:04:48.100 this discrepancy there and what we've also seen is various incidents where um really we've had the

01:04:58.500 uh question of church autonomy become deeply linked with affairs of state so with the ukraine war

01:05:07.300 we saw a new split in the orthodox church where basically the ukrainians decided that no we're going

01:05:13.300 to set up our own church and really there was no theological basis for that no none whatsoever totally

01:05:18.980 purely a political play purely political um absolutely and it's reflected in other areas we saw some

01:05:25.140 cases where there are allegations um can't get this translated anyway what it says is that the ukrainians

01:05:33.220 accuse um russian monks of participating in intelligence work against the state now it's coming from the

01:05:41.780 ukrainians so take it with a heavy heavy grain of salt yes but we've seen that this problem has really 0.98

01:05:49.140 persisted we look at the protestants and we see okay um what's going on there and the answers are pretty shocking

01:05:59.700 um the episcopal church has announced its new pride uh shield

01:06:11.780 do we need to say anything about this i'm just wondering which one in the top left is it is that

01:06:17.860 supposed to be the church of christ is it an inverted cross which you know could be like

01:06:23.860 the devil i i just i don't understand it either work it out i i have no idea what's going on there

01:06:31.140 oh there we go is the upper left blue corner of the episcopal church shield logo and incorporates

01:06:36.820 elements of the traditional pride flag ah thank you for that there we are i mean what is this

01:06:45.620 i don't know i i i i don't understand it i know the trans and black colors i know the like why

01:06:54.660 just not i drove around the states for a couple of weeks and pretty much every church had a gay pride flag

01:07:02.100 and it was just depressing i mean what do you stand for if you don't stand for a traditional family

01:07:10.180 and what's christian about this i don't get it and how big is the episcopal church in the u.s it's one of

01:07:16.500 the biggest is it's one of the biggest the baptists are i think the biggest uh they were and they have

01:07:21.220 but they will have all of that and the baptists yeah i never i never thought that actually they'll have

01:07:26.500 that too okay um you see it pretty much across the board with basically churches up and down the

01:07:35.380 country having these flags um you see it with the methodists you see it with evangelicals you see it

01:07:43.700 pretty much across the evangelicals too yeah some of them at least some of them at least and then the

01:07:50.900 the other consequence of protestantism is okay what are you standing on like how do you guys decide when

01:07:56.100 you disagree wouldn't you say though that if we check it out not just from an abstract point

01:08:01.940 because i i get the discussions from an abstract point you could say well when people have a text

01:08:07.780 and they say this is the final authority in christianity go and interpret it they could give

01:08:12.900 all sorts of interpretation and some of them are good some of them are bad and some people who see this

01:08:18.900 and they think that this leads to particularly bad social outcomes are saying that we need to go back

01:08:24.900 to the fewer people who are interpreting the bible and their their voice has a greater authority

01:08:30.740 more people reading the bible fewer people interpreting it yes yeah but wouldn't you say

01:08:35.780 in that if we check it out historically luther and the protestants did have a point when they went

01:08:41.620 against the catholic church of their time so for instance let's talk about the selling of indulgences

01:08:47.460 even then weren't there many people who were selling indulgences even for it was obviously

01:08:52.980 important then for future sins clearly with the blessing of the church indulgences were important

01:08:57.780 part of that time but it wasn't the sole reason i'm not saying it's the sole reason so of the theses

01:09:03.780 of luther yeah the church replied in detail i think it was in the council of trent yes okay and it made it

01:09:10.180 clear that it never as a church condoned the sign the selling of indulgences but that certain bishops

01:09:16.980 had yes and if you go back in history even during the arian heresy which was perhaps one of the

01:09:22.260 earliest heresies there was a good number of bishops who sided with the arians um so in the church there is

01:09:32.260 this weird complexity whereby the church has big disagreements internally and these disagreements

01:09:41.380 result in um sometimes political conflicts sometimes theological disagreements sometimes chaos

01:09:49.220 and then the church steps in and says okay now i have to say something about this here's the final

01:09:54.820 opinion you guys are right you guys are wrong that's how it works so the sale of indulgences was happening

01:10:02.660 and it was wrong but it was never condoned by the church because the church teaches in all kinds

01:10:08.900 of ways and the main teaching as you know is through the magisterium if something is in the magisterium

01:10:13.940 of the church that's it it's there it's never changing uh that's the actual meaning of infallibility

01:10:19.540 it's not that pope francis doesn't make stupid political moves it's that papal infallibility

01:10:24.900 relates to fundamental church teachings that are unchangeable so it was never within the church's 0.99

01:10:34.180 magisterium that you could sell it but you did have corrupt bishops back then as you do now as you have

01:10:41.140 in the lutheran church as you have in any institution where human beings are present it's a problem 1.00

01:10:47.300 that in some of the supposedly more learned uh historical texts by some of our supposedly greatest

01:10:53.300 historians that they always concentrate on the bishops who are charged who are getting money for

01:11:00.420 for these indulgences and the so-called fighting of wars on the back of the indulgences raising revenue

01:11:06.420 from that without actually looking into the detail and in many ways i find it interesting because

01:11:11.620 you have to look yourself for the documentation which is exactly what lufo is saying he's go off

01:11:17.540 read it yourself but they're actually hiding those facts into the little notes where they don't really

01:11:22.420 point out those little aspects for us yep yep yep um now the church of england is a strange example

01:11:34.900 of the blending of an extreme form of cesaropapism with a claim of orthodoxy at least it had a claim of

01:11:43.780 orthodoxy we kind of see how it's going they put a helter-skelter slide in norwich cathedral

01:11:54.980 um they're celebrating their non-binary priests i mean look at this guy

01:12:02.260 and you have to ask yourself well you know what do we conclude i think what we conclude is this

01:12:10.260 we think of to the extent that we can know anything about politics and about religion history is the

01:12:17.380 experiment we have to treat history as an experimental science and this experiment has been run

01:12:24.420 and we've seen what are the alternatives to catholicism and they are national churches that splinter for

01:12:33.380 political reasons and they are absolute moral and mental chaos throughout the protestant world

01:12:41.220 and they are essentially failure so this is the context in which we catholics think about the

01:12:50.500 election of a new pope we start with the fact that all kinds of other christian ideas have been tried

01:12:59.540 here we are today what are we going to do we have a new pope the based trad thing to do if you are of

01:13:08.260 this mindset is to congratulate the new pope to pray for him to welcome him and to think with the church

01:13:17.060 it doesn't mean that you don't disagree about anything but it does mean that you are a loyal son

01:13:24.420 of the church and your first duty is a duty of fealty for the entire establishment of the church

01:13:31.940 and its head see it's difficult i i was born i brought up a catholic i went to a catholic former catholic

01:13:40.020 seminary school um i fervently supported catholicism through school and through the beginning of my

01:13:47.380 political career um but seeing how having met the supporters of the archbishop of london our own

01:13:56.900 archbishop effectively canterbury uh here and when i was talking about immigration way back in 2014-15

01:14:05.140 going up to london going up to victoria and finding them being totally alongside all the images and

01:14:11.940 pictures that you said uh that started to deeply concern me and actually some of the statements from

01:14:18.820 you know our previous popes that were trying to open it up in what they regarded and why the press

01:14:23.460 are so supportive of a much more liberal view of things and and i i i i'm hoping to be opened up the

01:14:31.060 mind that he is not the current pope leo the 14th is not one of them and he's not going to follow the

01:14:36.900 same lines but but it's hard not to say that it seems that they've lost their way of what seems

01:14:44.500 tradition and that they too within the catholic church is following on the lines of the church

01:14:49.940 of england and the episcopals so maybe this is why i'm thinking very carefully about what you're saying

01:14:54.980 that's a fair question so before i go into what we know about what the pope actually said about

01:15:00.500 immigration yeah um we under francis had a problem in the following sense firstly pope francis was not

01:15:13.380 an excellent communicator pope benedict was yes and he could parse his sentences and statements

01:15:20.260 extremely carefully whereas pope francis was more of a shooting from the hip kind of guy

01:15:26.420 on all kinds of questions i've heard several people have said that he wasn't necessarily pro

01:15:31.300 mass migration the way many have portrayed exactly yeah right the second problem is that the media

01:15:39.540 both left and right will find whatever fits in its narrative blast it in a headline tweet it and then

01:15:47.380 it just sort of explodes and it gives the impression that this is all that was said yeah and that happened

01:15:52.420 with the lgbt stuff when francis took conservative positions while also saying you know if somebody 0.99

01:15:59.700 who's gay walks into church don't begin by hectoring him and telling him how he's going to burn in hell 0.99

01:16:07.220 like don't start the conversation that way yeah um even though yes we accept that it's wrong and pope 0.51

01:16:13.300 francis would say that it's a disordered tendency so there were there were these issues where people

01:16:19.540 cherry picked what they wanted and spun a narrative and most people took it uncritically

01:16:24.820 unfortunately on immigration pope francis said all the time that we should be welcoming towards

01:16:32.180 migrants yes and that states have the right to decide what capacity they have well i tried to

01:16:38.740 find a number of papers when i started through the rare rooms and rome and all the rest of it to find

01:16:43.620 exactly that last sentence because when i was in the european parliament someone pushed one across exactly

01:16:48.740 said it was down to the states yes but i've not been able to find it when you go on onto the i'll

01:16:54.180 try to find something if you can find it and show me that because historically i remember writing about

01:16:58.740 it in 2015-16 and saying this is exactly what the catholic church is saying is that we should welcome

01:17:04.100 people here and treat all people with dignity and respect yes but the nation state also has its ability

01:17:09.780 to be able to say that we should control it because of the people living here yes looking after their

01:17:14.740 interest too so the balance is with that i and i no longer can find that you see that well i'll see

01:17:22.020 what i can find okay uh but i very much remember seeing that and sort of hold on a second this is

01:17:27.380 what i was being told in the media yeah um and that was probably before i converted yes um but it struck

01:17:34.420 me as quite important as and here as to what pope leo is saying it's uh it's it's pretty straightforward

01:17:42.100 if you ask me i need to do something about the volume but i don't know maybe samson can the audience

01:17:49.780 here so to summarize it's you know someone who speaks clearly it's a problem the flow the people

01:18:06.820 keep on coming the flows need to be stopped by addressing their causes the gospel make very clear

01:18:12.980 a message which pope francis has been hammering home time and again since his very first trip as pope

01:18:20.500 when he went to this little community an island in southern italy the town of lampedusa where all these

01:18:28.820 immigrants continue to come it's a huge problem and it's a problem worldwide not only in this country 1.00

01:18:35.540 there's got to be a way both to solve the problem but also to treat people with respect every one of us

01:18:46.420 whether we were born in the united states of america or on the north pole we all are given that gift of

01:18:55.460 being created the image and likeness of god and the day we forget that is the day we forget who we are

01:19:02.980 we forget who christ has called us to be

01:19:10.100 fair enough that's that's the long and short of it yeah and i think i don't think we can disagree and

01:19:14.580 certainly from my you know background is that we all have to treat people with dignity respect i'm often

01:19:20.420 questioned by this how can you oppose uh the asylum seekers coming to this country how can you oppose

01:19:27.380 people being placed in houses and actually it's not a question of opposing them it's not oppression

01:19:32.420 of looking them without dignity and respect i do want them to be able to live as we all know that

01:19:37.540 most of them will prefer to live in their own homes in their own areas connected to their own families

01:19:43.060 except those that we know that are being pushed here for different reasons and so that is the dignity

01:19:48.020 that's the respect but dignity and respect is two ways it's also to the home state as well as the host

01:19:52.980 state absolutely and so we should be looking at this as as catholics as christians to be able to see

01:19:59.140 how we can solve the problem that all humanity's lives can be improved but not without the diminution

01:20:06.500 of those in the what will become the host state so there is this tension that's always existed between

01:20:14.420 the church and temporal authorities where the church tries to temper the worst tendencies of the

01:20:20.580 temporal authority which it should do which it always should do and the temporal authority says

01:20:26.340 to the church look these are our resources and this is what we can do and this dialogue is going to

01:20:31.060 continue but this dialogue is not like choosing a political party or a football team no belonging to

01:20:38.980 the church is fundamentally a spiritual matter and it's got to do if you don't want to think about

01:20:45.220 it just spiritually um which i really encourage you to do to think about it spiritually it's also got to

01:20:51.860 do with recognizing what the west is when we were talking about the extent to which liberty has been

01:20:57.220 eroded in britain well the bedrock of british liberty is partly it's christian faith yes and the bedrock of

01:21:05.060 any conception of liberty in the west is christian and it's the church that has fused together rome athens and

01:21:11.940 jerusalem in a way that respects religion and the rights of god and respects the individual created

01:21:20.580 in the image of god and it's through this balance that you begin a process of restoration and without

01:21:27.300 that balance and without this sense of community that is fostered by the church nothing is going to

01:21:33.700 be saved so when we say i'm critical of the west for having forgotten its legacy that's exactly what i mean

01:21:40.660 you can't go into a medieval town or a town that has existed from medieval times and not see the

01:21:46.980 imprint of catholicism on that town so how do you think then this pope is going to try and improve

01:21:53.700 and save ourselves well um firstly he's an augustinian okay saint augustine is the one who defended the

01:22:03.220 crushing of the donatist heresy which claimed that any priest who was bad can't be a priest

01:22:09.860 and we know that the pope has a confessor partly because like the rest of us he's a sinner and he

01:22:14.340 needs one um so that's a no-go and saint augustine supported using the temporal power of the state

01:22:22.820 to end heresy because he understood the kind of civil conflict that that heresy had generated

01:22:29.940 and saint augustine is also quite a systematic thinker a very rigorous thinker and we see it with this

01:22:36.500 pope who's also not only a bachelor in mathematics but also a master's and a doctorate in canon law

01:22:46.180 meaning that we're going to get a pope who will speak clearly and we are going to get a pope who

01:22:51.700 thinks very carefully about theology and what he says he's making every signal he could make to the

01:22:59.300 traditional faction in the church to say i'm on your side or at least i'm not hostile to you he's a fan

01:23:07.780 of the traditional latin mass uh the old pre-1962 mass so that's always a pretty good sign yeah he took

01:23:16.180 the name leo the 14th pope leo was a very hostile to americanization not america but making america into a

01:23:27.540 new dogma which is part of what we see in britain today oh yeah um hostile to secular to secularism

01:23:35.380 and the idea that you can have politics separate from moral authority um so all of the signs that

01:23:41.860 we're seeing so far are pretty strong okay and even with a bad pope quote unquote um i want to pull up here

01:23:51.220 two quotations one from gk chesterton i do believe in christianity and my impression is that a system

01:23:59.460 must be divine which has survived so much insane mismanagement and people say catholics don't have

01:24:06.100 a sense of humor um i've not seen that one before but that is actually quite fun is that really a chest

01:24:13.540 yes yes yes someone's pulled it out and it's yes okay um and you know there is going to be some

01:24:22.020 problems with the curia because having three probes was a part of insane mismanagement having

01:24:27.460 three popes was insane in different areas yes having all of those schisms was was insane mismanagement

01:24:34.100 and then perhaps slightly more amusing a quote around napoleon uh during a frustrating argument

01:24:42.660 with a roman catholic cardinal napoleon bonaparte supposedly burst out your eminence are you not

01:24:48.820 aware that i have the power to destroy the catholic church the cardinal the anecdote goes responded

01:24:55.860 ruefully your majesty we the catholic clergy have done our best to destroy the church for the last

01:25:01.860 1800 years we have not succeeded and neither will you like it or not the anchor of western

01:25:10.580 civilization as the catholic church being an active loving participant from the inside

01:25:18.500 is going to produce much better results than attacking from the outside so this is what i would say

01:25:28.020 um we obey the teaching authority of the church regardless of the pope if if your problem with the

01:25:36.340 church is the pope we obey the church regardless of the pope because we believe that the gates of

01:25:42.580 hell shall never triumph over her we believe in this spiritually with every fiber of our being in our soul

01:25:52.420 and we know that it's true and we know that there's no restoration without catholicism so if you want to

01:25:58.500 be conservative you're not going to be as conservative as louis de bourbon pray for the pope that's

01:26:07.540 interesting challenge my thoughts on him nice okay so we have a comment by oph uk i think i can read this

01:26:16.660 if i do see anything fatty i'll stop okay so he says i'll be too unchristian i didn't leave that 0.65

01:26:23.380 church i didn't leave the church the church left me the last couple of popes have cared more about

01:26:29.060 hearing praise from the wolves than taking care of their flock they were bad shepherds

01:26:34.900 look um even if you are to believe that this still doesn't excuse leaving the church it's not a

01:26:41.620 football team no okay so that's a random name also if ferus gets his own geopolitical program

01:26:48.580 um i want him to wear historical hats helmets based on the region he's covering challenge accepted

01:26:57.380 send me helmets please

01:27:00.020 i've got a few that i can send over again thank you for the donation just wanted to congratulate

01:27:06.740 steven and ferris on joining the lotus seat is really looking forward to seeing your perspectives

01:27:11.140 and expertise regarding world events thank you thank you stone 17 says oh and check the talk

01:27:17.540 page of pope leo's wikipedia article if you want to laugh the commie editors at wikipedia were having

01:27:23.460 a conniption fit trying to call him anything but american ramshack lotto says please look into

01:27:33.300 british orthodoxy in their crusade against ecumenism okay if there's anything you want to recommend

01:27:38.420 tweet it at me please okay and sigilstone 17 says i want to congratulate the vatican

01:27:44.180 on their move to avoid trump's tariffs by electing a pope maiden okay that is very very good right so

01:27:52.500 let's go to the video comments and we will take extra time to read comments from the website i do

01:27:58.180 like that one okay let's go good morning lotus eaters the high country's finally starting to open up

01:28:05.140 with the snow line at a bit over 3600 feet i thought that going back to the alpine lakes wilderness now that

01:28:11.140 it's not buried with snow would be a good idea it's dumping rain now but the weather held out just

01:28:16.820 enough to make for a good time there's plenty of big trees on this trail as well my backpack to scale

01:28:22.900 on this guy i bet when this tree fell in the forest it made a sound i'll send the pictures from the upper

01:28:28.340 lakes tomorrow have a good one i'm enjoying this chap i have to admit the few that we've seen some some

01:28:33.620 beautiful sights absolutely stunning absolutely beautiful nature let's go to the next one north

01:28:38.340 america is incredible yeah north fc zoomer until in 2023 it reached nearly one million that's about

01:28:49.940 the population of birmingham our second largest city that's not control it's chaos and look they must answer

01:29:01.940 for themselves but i don't think that you can do something like that by accident

01:29:12.020 sponsored by the tony blair institute hilarious it is amazing i like the way he's mixed up those

01:29:17.780 voices from different speeches that is nicely done let's go the next one zesty king

01:29:24.180 oh no i thought you're gonna do something else

01:29:37.140 cruel but funny

01:29:41.140 cruel but funny let's go to the next one 0.90

01:29:45.620 okay right so let's we have the comments to right to go to so lord nereva says white south africans are

01:29:52.340 what genuine refugees look like an entire ethnic group being systematically oppressed by the

01:29:58.100 government they live under who are in danger of their lives not ahmed who just come came across the 0.97

01:30:04.020 channel from iraq because he has a human right to a slightly nicer house alpha of the beaters by the

01:30:11.620 way lord nereva always you give us great comments and thank you alpha of the beaters the africaners have 1.00

01:30:17.860 been in africa since the 1600s when the first white south african refugees arrived in the u.s we will

01:30:24.420 live arrive in the u.s we will live in a world where re-migration based on race is a reality 0.99

01:30:30.500 re-migration is back on the menu 1.00

01:30:34.340 look uh that's some funny south africans made it to the uh whites made it to the cape before blacks did 0.95

01:30:42.260 and people try to forget that and now i think that the the people who live in south africa weren't

01:30:49.140 involved in the previous conflicts that are regularly cited for white oppression right also um arizona

01:30:57.620 desert rat and is the south african president trying to buy or sell nuclear weapons if the south african 0.82

01:31:03.940 president is trying to buy where is he getting the money from if he's trying to sell who would trust

01:31:08.820 the quality of the weapon sophie live but they haven't got nuclear weapons in south africa have

01:31:15.700 they no but they want white regime no they want to they want to make him don't they the the white 0.53

01:31:20.260 regime did and then they decommissioned their nuclear program oh and they had had israeli help for

01:31:26.020 for their for the nuclear program okay sophie live says for me the solution to this is pretty simple

01:31:31.380 remove every single white person from south africa for just one single year see what they feel about it 0.92

01:31:37.220 after that and arizona desert rat but don't don't think nobody don't you all know white south africans 0.99

01:31:43.940 can be refugees they're white that's exactly what crt people are saying um steven do you want to read

01:31:51.860 them or do you want me to read for there's only three so i'll go isn't it it looks like there's only

01:31:56.580 three oh it's like oh there's actually a few more on there so i will take alther of the beaters

01:32:01.780 there are 30 daily arrests for speech crimes in the uk and the police had every confidence that

01:32:07.060 this one address would go under the radar as thousands before and thousands have will do

01:32:11.540 afterwards i think you mean to say an apology without condition or change of behavior is

01:32:15.540 meaningless and i think that's mainly the point that we're trying to say is that this is happening

01:32:19.380 more regularly and that it wouldn't have been spotted without the the free speech union and

01:32:24.180 others that are going to try and pick this up a friend of mine is a police officer says

01:32:27.940 ramshack a lot of open brackets crone closed brackets they don't know which side it is

01:32:32.900 regarding israel palestine they don't know what river through the sea means police shouldn't be

01:32:36.980 about policing political opinions especially when they have no understanding and this is why i'm saying

01:32:42.100 i'm saddened about the police officers the ones that i know is that they are the ones who are on the

01:32:46.260 front line of this college of policing teaching them and we should be giving them every opportunity to

01:32:52.020 do what they really entered the job to do which is to police real crime omar awad says they'll toss you in

01:32:57.140 and jane for owning the wrong books but they won't stop you buying them i'll tell you which ones

01:33:01.300 this isn't a cacistocracy or anarcho tyranny it's ruled by reddit moderator in all his

01:33:09.060 petty and vindictive glory and so there are some really good ones here today

01:33:14.180 garlic goblin love the name absolutely i'm loving that garlic goblin

01:33:18.580 are you sure you're not a french garlic goblin that might be a bit different

01:33:21.460 there we go these police officers clearly possess intellects far too long to be trusted with the

01:33:27.380 power that they wield it's genuinely terrifying that's a good comment he went garlic goblin mode

01:33:36.420 roman observer the strange death of europe brexity 1984 brexity brave new world brexity the bible

01:33:43.860 brexity yeah yeah and that it goes on with burning the books you know back into german time the illegal

01:33:50.420 truth how did the police obtain a search warrant for a tweet well that's pretty easy now to be honest

01:33:55.860 it's part and parcel of the process um and matt d i have 1984 my bookshelf are you at risk you are

01:34:03.060 if you don't have brave new world next to it and read both together otherwise i'm coming onto your

01:34:07.460 door to knock on it quite frankly

01:34:11.460 right and firas do you want to read your comments sure yeah uh baron vaughan warhawk very appropriate

01:34:18.420 the episcopal church's new pride shield was disgusting to look at yes a church should 1.00

01:34:23.460 demonstrate no pride at all correct as it's one of the seven deadly sins it also shouldn't be

01:34:29.540 inclusive and as only true christians or those seeking redemption should be included in the church

01:34:36.020 you know no

01:34:37.380 when we are commanded to go and make disciples of all the nations

01:34:47.380 by christ i think i'll take that commandment seriously

01:34:51.060 demonstrating pride flags proves that this church isn't truly christian agreed they care more about

01:34:57.140 social justice and the word of god yep that's pretty much it i guess he missed those pride flags

01:35:02.740 flying outside some roman catholic churches as well every christian denomination is guilty of having 0.89

01:35:08.100 heretics yes there are some catholic priests who speak in favor of lgbt no that is not the position

01:35:18.580 of the church yes the church can and should do more to discipline them i hope that's a fair answer

01:35:25.380 if catholicism is what will save the west then why then to catholic countries suffer from the exact same

01:35:31.300 issues as protestant countries um because the fight with protestantism has been won by the protestants

01:35:38.740 with the rise of the american empire uh but we as individuals are not the arbiters of truth god is

01:35:45.540 yep absolutely absolutely

01:35:50.740 right right okay and uh on this note we have run out of time and we are going to be together with you

01:35:58.260 at 1 pm tomorrow thank you very much gentlemen thanks very much and good afternoon see you tomorrow good afternoon see you tomorrow good afternoon see you tomorrow thank you

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - May 12, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1162

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