The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1182
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Summary
Elias, Firas and Stephen discuss the riots in Los Angeles, the use of the National Guard by the police and the reaction by the mayor of LA, Gavin Newsom. Also, a new documentary trailer is released about the death of a man who was shot and killed by police.
Transcript
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotseaters. Today is Monday, the 9th of June,
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2025, and this is episode 1182. I'm your host, Elias, and I'm joined today by Firas and Stephen.
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Hello. And we are going to talk about California in flames, Britain's Muslim networks,
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and how concern over migration is basically now terrorism. But before we begin, we have
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several announcements to make. Big changes are coming ahead. We have released a documentary
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trailer about the death of man. Carl has made this documentary. You can check the trailer.
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The documentary is going to be released at 5 p.m. today. It's very exciting, and the content is
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really great. You can see here we've worked a lot on this, Carl and the editors especially,
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and definitely check it out. Definitely check it out. It's premiering today at 5 p.m. Also,
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Carl has a video for us. He is giving us some updates about the development of the website.
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He's talking about new hosts, new series, new content, and the redesigning of the website.
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Definitely check this video out. I see 342 views already of it. Let's raise the number.
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Right. And we are going to have a roundtable today at 3 p.m. talking about the vizier of reform,
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Zia Youssef. I think this was one of the most unwanted end cause as far as, you know.
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Forwards. It's a tennis match of totalitarian reform.
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Right. All right, everyone. Chill. The new ice age has begun. The age where ice is actually doing
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its job. This is precisely what people voted for. This is Trump's mandate ever since he won the
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elections of November 2024. And a lot of people are not having it. They can't stomach it, especially
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the left, which is protesting and tries to disrupt the country, the U.S. and basically the entire
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world or the entire West, I should say. So we have a long chain of events that spiraled out of
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control and have reached a sort of generalized chaos. And this has led to several physical
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fighting as well as political fighting. And we are going to talk about these events right
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now. So on the 7th of June, LAPD issued a statement and said that today demonstrations
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across the city of L.A. remain peaceful. We commend all those who exercise their First
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Amendment rights responsibly. And while today's events concluded without incident, the Los
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Angeles Police Department remains fully prepared to respond swiftly. Now, that didn't happen.
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Why did these riots took place? Well, ice was doing its job.
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Its job led to the detention of 12 people who were illegal migrants, and they were held
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into custody. And then several people protested outside several buildings associated to the
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federal government, but also to the state, LAPD headquarters, for instance. And at some
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point they turned violent. Let's see here. We have footage from it. We have here people
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taking, hiding behind people's feet with shields. A lot of Mexican flags. There are many Mexican
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flags. I thought we were in Mexico there for a moment. I was just looking at the graffiti.
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This is definitely fiery. Doesn't seem to be peaceful. Just saying. Now, let's see more of what
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happened. There are several cries and calls to spread this chaos throughout the country. And I think that
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when people echo such sentiments, there should be a very swift response on behalf of the authorities,
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and they establish order full stop. No, no, there's no other consideration to be that is relevant
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there. These kinds of sentiments are incredibly disruptive and they should be addressed. Right. So
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it seems like Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass, the mayor of LA, have lost control. And they are trying to
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protest against Trump, who is deploying the National Guard. They're saying that this is an abuse of
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authority and we can handle the situation. Now, it don't seem they are able to do so. They don't seem
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to be in control of the situation. You see here, lots of people being on top of a bridge.
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I'm sorry, bricks. Is that bricks and rocks and stuff like that? So that doesn't look like peaceful,
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according to the chief of police of LA County. I mean, that seems to me like, I don't know,
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are they having a cup of coffee with them? Are they throwing them down a bagel?
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More fiery than peaceful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see them also throwing rocks to the police?
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Yeah. So it seems like this has spiraled out of control. And I don't understand why Newsom would
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be against the deployment of the National Guard. What's the definition of control here? Is it control
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just means that you allow anyone who disagrees with a Republican president and ICE who aren't
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doing their jobs? But because it's opposed to our view, this is the form of control that's acceptable,
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throwing bricks, attacking police officers. But of course, if they didn't do it, then we could sit
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down and have a bagel with them. I think there's a clear distinction between peaceful protest and
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violent riots. Democrats are paying lip service to it. But essentially, they are trying to sugarcoat
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what is going on. There's a political logic to it there, which is that if they make every attempt
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at enforcing immigration laws very expensive for the authorities, then they hope that that deters the
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authorities and that forces them into a political settlement. The dimension you want to keep in mind
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is that a lot of resources and at least House seats are allocated based on the size of the population.
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So if you shrink the size of the illegal immigrant population, that means that states that are
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currently run by Democrats will have less seats in the House. That's an interesting point. I mean,
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I hadn't really put that into the kind of political dimension for them. But it is kind of like throwing it out
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from their perspective. Oh, look, I've seen the videos. There's nothing problematic about this. We're
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allowed to have demonstrations. And I think we were, we're in agreement with that. But it's the idea that
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they're taking peaceable people away from their jobs. Yes. And they're closing down roads. Yeah. And so
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they're, and they're attacking the police. And they're communists. And you see Palestinian flags,
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and you see Mexican flags, and you see all kinds of other foreign flags. Yeah. The logic behind it is,
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we will not tolerate this loss of power. And you have to think about it in the longer term. Because
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when illegal migrants have children under American law, these children are automatically citizens. Yes.
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And if they tend to vote Democrat, that means that over time, you're changing the nature of politics
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in the United States to favor one party. Absolutely. So yeah, and we should add on the
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political dimension that some states are resisting voter ID laws. And last time I checked, Gavin Newsom,
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the governor of California, also protested these voter ID laws as racist. Suddenly, if we throw this
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into the mix, we get a better idea as to why Gavin Newsom and the Democrats are protesting against
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ISIS operation. There's one more point to make here. California makes it illegal to check the ID of a
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voter. So if you as a voter try to show a California elections official your ID, he or she cannot examine
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it by law. And they have the nerve to talk about political legitimacy and concerns. Now, we see also
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here anti-deportation rioters smashing the LAPD headquarters. That's calm, isn't it? I can see the
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calmness in that way that the arm is thrusting there very calmly into the window. This reminds me,
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you know, Escape from Los Angeles, the sequel to Escape from New York. We're going to have the Duke
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coming here now. Yeah, yeah. Happens. And people have been talking about generalized chaos and the Mad Max
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universe. Now, speaking of flags, as we said, and as you said for us, you see lots of Palestinian flags,
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lots of Mexican flags, some people wrapped around in flags of the USSR. But you don't see American flags
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in support. You see American flags being burned and spit at. So we see here a video by Andy Ngo. He says
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far left and Mexican nationalist writers are breaking into cars in Los Angeles and setting them on fire using
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American flags as Tinder. And you see this, we have lots of footage where this is happening.
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And lots of people saying, here we have this from leftism, leftist writer burns American flag in LA
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and says my Mexican flag, green, white and red. That's my flag, not this flag. F this flag. I pledge
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allegiance to Mexico. Nobody. Why are you there? Why don't you just simply get up and go to Mexico?
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Because that's where the flag is flown. That's where your cultural heritage clearly is. That's
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where your desire to be is. It means no sense to me for you to burn an American flag in a country you
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don't want to be in that's not Mexican. And there's also another dimension that the flag represents the
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nation, not the government. When you're burning a flag, you are committing a symbolic act against a
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nation, not necessarily against the government. Lots of people don't want to don't want to put forward
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this argument, because they want to they think that the government is necessarily organically
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connected to the nation. And sometimes we have governments that aren't particularly in favor of
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the interests of their nation and of promoting them. Seems pretty much most of Western governments,
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to be honest. Exactly. So we have here several footage. We have here footage of pardon me for the
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spelling. Everyone saw this burning vehicle here and someone with the Mexican flag driving around
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making circles. This definitely seems like Mad Max stuff. Law has broken down. We also have here
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people saying, again, having being on top of of burning cars. They've graffitied them saying
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annullers. I get a sense of deja vu. Wasn't I looking at pictures like this in Paris only a
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couple of weeks ago, where instead of using a a Mexican flag, they had the flag of Palestine on it,
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which seems to have pretty similar colors on this. And there were burning French flags burning French
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flags to set fire to police vehicles and stopping people. And hang on, what's what's the what's the
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connectivity between them? They come in. Trying to really work this one out. Is it the fact they
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weren't born in that country and they just illegally came to that country or just settled in that country
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and now they're being caught? They want they're being deported? I don't know. I mean, call me old
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fashioned. There's something there. There is this belief that nations are interchangeable and identity is
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fundamentally interchangeable. As someone from Lebanon, I just know how false that is and what
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a ridiculous claim it is to make. But this is the official stated position of pretty much every
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Western government. And if you disagree with it, as you're going to tell us in a couple of moments,
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you're a terrorist. So there is this dynamic that's happening where reality is hitting ideology.
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Reality and ideology are clashing and you're seeing reality assert itself in images like this.
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And we need to also bear in mind the fact that the left is constantly carving up the population into
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several groups and they are playing power politics with those groups and they almost invariably support
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movements they consider to be revolutionary, within quotation marks, and they constantly are pro
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the disruptive force. Sometimes this has backfired to them massively, like in 1979 in Iran.
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Just saying. But leftists don't learn from their mistakes, their ideologues. And when we're talking
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about ideologues, any clash between ideology and facts results to a situation that is so worse for the
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facts. Now let's move forward. We see yet again Mexican flags, people, and they've graffitied and
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vandalized the vehicle. And they say F ICE. Here we also have more flags. And we have a march here.
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Again, almost all of them are Mexican flags. We have lots of Mexican flags here.
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Almost all of the people are Mexican flags, then we go.
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Yes. So, looks like it's taking an ethnic dimension. Right, so several people are circulating this
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video with the Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo, allegedly urging Mexicans to protest in the
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United States, saying, if necessary, we will mobilize. We don't want taxes on remittances from our
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fellow countrymen from the U.S. to Mexico. This is an act of war. But bear this in mind. This may be
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quasi misleading. Grok says here, the claim that President Sheinbaum urged Mexicans to protest in
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the U.S. against a remittance tax is partially accurate, but misleading. She called for mobilization
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against attacks. But this refers to political actions like lobbying and social media campaign,
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not physical protest. No evidence of protest in the U.S. exists as of June 8th, 2025. So,
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take that with a pinch of salt when you see people talking about the President of Mexico here.
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I think the important point to make about the President of Mexico is that when she was mayor
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of Mexico City, she prided herself on managing to reduce the number of murders in Mexico City.
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What happened was that the cartels began disappearing bodies rather than killing people and leaving their
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bodies, which led to a drop in the murder rate and a spike in the disappearance rate. So, the cartels
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essentially were doing her a favor to help her spin a political narrative. The Americans have long
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suspected that her and her predecessor were connected to the cartels in some ways.
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And from my looking at what's been happening in Mexican politics, it seems to be pretty obvious
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that all kinds of senior politicians are in bed with the cartels. And so, what Trump is doing is
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shutting down the money flows for the cartels, both in terms of people smuggling and drug smuggling.
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And she is taking their sides. The tax on remittances is 3.5%,
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which is not a huge amount, and is intended to basically levy more money from people who are
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benefiting from being in the United States, who are often working illegally and untaxed.
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So, her response that we will mobilize is interesting. They've also been saying that
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all Mexican consulates, and pretty much most major American cities have a Mexican consulate,
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will be used to help stop deportations. So, they're using the power of the Mexican state for
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support of the Mexican people. But what this is confirming is that there is a conflict between
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I think there clearly is a conflict between Mexico and the United States. I mean,
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I think 3.5% personally as a fee is minuscule in a way that they, it's something that I think
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they're saying we're doing for the public. If they really wanted to do it, they did it into double
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figures, which has a real big impact when you're looking at currency transfer rates as well.
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You're suddenly moving up to regions of 20%. And then the second point of that, that is no doubt
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someone will have said, well, if we do put the tariff on so high it won't get paid, people will then
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start trying to do it in a kind of a money laundering way, which I think is fine in a way. I mean,
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I'm not one for money laundering, but I think once you start putting it underground, it gives you the
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opportunity then to bring in more federal laws, to hit them harder. And then you find out and
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identify the roots of these monies much more quickly and be able to find out who the big works,
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because it's the money that matters. I've always said in law, follow the money, always in politics,
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follow the money. And if Trump is following the money, then maybe we'll follow the money to those
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people in Mexico who are actually benefiting from all this crisis.
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Yep. Apart from following the money, he seems to be doing the sensible thing here. He deployed
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the National Guard, much to the dismay of Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris and various high-profile
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Democrats. So Kamala Harris made a statement here on what's happening in Los Angeles. She says,
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LA is my home, and like so many Americans, I'm appalled at what we're witnessing on the
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streets of our city. Deploying the National Guard is a dangerous escalation meant to provoke chaos.
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Excuse me, deploying the National Guard is a reaction to chaos. What is deplorable there is
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the chaos, not the deployment of the National Guard. It's the chaos and the very lukewarm reaction to
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that chaos on behalf of Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass, the mayor of LA. So Kamala Harris says,
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this is a dangerous escalation. I think that this, in a way that's true, it is an escalation,
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but it should be an escalation to end the chaos. But also, I really dislike the attempt to somehow
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portray this issue as a confrontation among equals, among equal parties. And we say,
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we have two equal parties here. It seems like Trump is escalating. No, no. He should do what he did.
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He's absolutely correct in deploying the National Guard. It's obviously out of control. Everyone
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who's trying to claim that it isn't out of control seems to be lying.
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It is too. And whenever I see anything from Kamala Harris, I always get that feeling in the stomach,
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just as you've got when you've got food poisoning. It's just that sense.
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And sometimes food poisoning lasts for a long time. She says also there,
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this administration's actions are not about public safety. They're about stoking fear. Again,
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this manifestly false. This kind of anarcho-tyranny in LA is stoking fear.
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Yeah. Bear the mind stoking fear to what I'm going to be talking about later.
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Also, Gavin Newsom said, the Secretary of Defense is now threatening to deploy active
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duty marines on American soil against its own citizens. This is deranged behavior.
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Sorry. First of all, not all of them are citizens. And also, what's deranged about it? If you were
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enforcing the law there and you ensured law and order, none of this would take place.
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This is the fundamental point. What's sacred to the left is sentimentalism, not the written letter of
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the law. Western culture, Western civilization is built on the idea that the sacred word is holy.
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Everything that traces back from Greek philosophy, Roman law, the Bible, this all rests on the idea
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of the importance of the written word and of the written law. For them, it's all about sentiment and
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feeling and wordplay. So what Kamala Harris said, essentially, is this feels wrong. I don't like it.
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What Newsom is saying here is this feels wrong. I don't like it. There's no nuance. There's no respect
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for the actual facts. This is the party that disregards reality as a matter of principle
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and elevates sentimentalism above law. Exactly. They constantly ask for mercy.
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I'm afraid my condition has completely left me cold to the pleas of mercy. We have here Gavin Newsom.
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Yeah, I was going to say that you've got here talking, Gavin Newsom, talking about the National
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Guard has been taken out of California's hand. On the one hand, Gavin, you turned around and said
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that there was nothing going on, nothing to see here, no demonstrations. Now you're saying don't
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give them an excuse to use violence against you. So the throwing of bricks, the burnings of cars,
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there was nothing to see. Well, if people don't want the military or in this case, the National Guard
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to push them, stop them from doing things, don't throw bricks, don't burn cars. Also, it's like he's
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talking to his own side, like don't give them one. I mean, are you on the side of law enforcement or
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are you on the... They are not your side. They're not supposed to be your side. No. He says here the
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federal government is taking over the California National Guard and deploying 2000 soldiers in LA,
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not because there's shortage of law enforcement, but because they want a spectacle. Don't give them one,
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never use violence, speak out peacefully. Well, there are people using violence. There are people who don't
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speak out peacefully. Why haven't you done your job? Just a basic question. Remember when Xi Jinping was
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visiting San Francisco and then all of a sudden, Newsom made it spotlessly clean and got rid of the
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homeless and got rid of the drug addicts and got rid of... and sort of restored order for Xi's visit and
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then he allowed the chaos back. So this is who they are. They are lying through their teeth constantly
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about what's actually happening. Yeah. And it's impossible to assume that this isn't conscious
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and deliberate and that this isn't part of the strategy. Legally, Trump has the right to declare
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an emergency and summon the National Guard. In normal situations, the National Guard obeys the governor,
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but the president has the right under the law to take command of the National Guard for domestic and
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foreign purposes. Yeah. What Newsom is trying to do is to create a constitutional crisis on the back of
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this to justify further escalation while lying about the narrative. So this isn't accidental. None of it
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is accidental. And even when you look at the riots themselves, you can see the social media pages of
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these rioters teaching how to set up barricades, how to identify police officers and find their identity.
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Great Molotov cocktails. Yeah. So that they can then be targeted at home and so that their families
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can be attacked. You see them organizing in a very effective way. And there is this pretense that
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this is all organic and that it isn't organized. What they are doing is being the Shen Fen to the IRA.
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They're spinning the political narrative for the people who are using the violence.
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Yes. Right. So do you know Karen Bass? Yes. Who Karen Bass is?
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Yes. Mayor of LA. Well, allow me to break the ice.
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So Karen Bass says here is the mayor of LA and she says this is a difficult time for a city. We had
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the unprecedented natural disasters, reports of unrest outside the city. That's not exactly unrest,
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that's chaos, including in Paramount are deeply concerning. We have been in direct contact
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with officials in Washington DC and are working closely with law enforcement to find the best
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path forward. I mean, it's not exactly a debate what the best path forward is.
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You reestablish it. You either tolerate this and encourage it to grow.
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Yes. But she has a problem. She won't stand for the National Guard being deployed. She says this
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morning we received reports of federal migration enforcement actions in multiple locations in LA
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as mayor of a proud city of immigrants who contribute to our city in so many ways. I'm deeply angered
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by what has been, by what has taken place. These tactics sell terror in our communities and disrupt basic
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principles of safety in our city. If you decry every kind of law enforcement as fascism, at some point
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people will stop listening to you because they won't have a, they won't be able to discern between what
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fascism is and what fascism is not. They will think invariably it's what you don't like. And that's like,
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that's just complete nonsense. And you know her, sorry. Go on, go on. No, no. You know some stuff
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about her because I think we should, there are some interesting things about her past.
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She was part of the Venture Ramos Brigade. There was an international socialist revolution
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group aimed at challenging US policies towards Cuba, have made their way back to the spotlights
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after they were revealed just months back during the city's disastrous wildfires. She previously praised
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Fidel Castro and had close associations with the Caribbean country in her youth, traveling there in 1973
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with Venture Ramos Brigade and seeing the communist leader speak. And when Castro died, she referred
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to him as commandante and jefe, commander-in-chief, saying his passing was a great loss to the people
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of Cuba. She also reportedly gave a eulogy for a senior member of the communist party, USA. Right. So,
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one thing, communism has led invariably to poverty. When you have poverty, you have huge migration flows.
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Look at Cuba, look at Venezuela. And that's actually making the problem worse. So, if you care about
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migrants, you presumably have to care about the conditions at their home and not support communists
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for making people poor and who make them actually try to migrate. Right. So, Gavin Newsom also requested
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the Trump administration to rescind the unlawful deployment of troops in Los Angeles County and
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return them to his command. He says, we didn't have a problem until Trump got involved.
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It looks like you did have a major problem. If any law enforcement action results in riots,
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then you clearly have a problem. He says, this is a serious breach of state sovereignty,
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inflaming tensions while pulling resources from where they're actually needed. We send the order,
00:26:13.020
return control to California. Control has been lost in California, but not because of Trump and the
00:26:19.820
deployment of the National Guard. Control has been lost because the state hasn't done its job.
00:26:26.780
And not because the people who are involved in law enforcement are bad. They're not. Because
00:26:31.420
they have orders from Democrats not to. So, he has 2000 National Guard, which he didn't use.
00:26:36.460
So, that was a resource that was not being used anywhere. So, why did he say those resources were
00:26:41.180
needed somewhere else? So, where was he going to put them? He wasn't going to put them anywhere.
00:26:44.860
So, he's making a lie even that last sentence. It's just blatant lies.
00:26:48.940
And he's blaming Trump for it. He says he manufactured the crisis and is in flaming
00:26:53.820
conditions. Well, the crisis was the border crisis. He didn't manufacture that. He's trying to solve the
00:26:58.220
border crisis. And within the border crisis is now that others are trying to prevent that border crisis
00:27:04.220
problem being solved by those who have the authority to do that, which is the police in terms of ICE.
00:27:09.580
So, I don't see how they can be creating the problem. The left is constantly disrupting
00:27:15.420
civilization and then everyone who tries to address these issues is denounced as an evil person who is
00:27:21.820
actually responsible from the problem in the first place. It is a complete inversion of reality. I hope
00:27:27.340
there aren't going to be any victims there. It looks like it's incredibly violent and it looks like
00:27:33.020
there are lots of fanatical people who are interested in continuing their violence. I really hope
00:27:38.940
the help order is restored and there are as little, there is as little damage as possible.
00:27:57.340
Right. So, Sigil, where are the comments? Yeah. Sigilstone17 says,
00:28:01.820
We should thank President Scheinbaum for one thing. Confirming that integration is a myth. There will
00:28:07.020
never be Americans. They are a foreign militia that invaded our soil. Okay. Alex Adamson 55 says,
00:28:16.860
Let me rephrase my last rant. Burning the flag of the country you want to stay in, in protest of being
00:28:22.540
sent back to the country you're flying the flag of. Okay. Let's scroll down a bit.
00:28:28.700
O-P-H-U-K. Trump should tie a taco to a rope, drag it around L.A. behind his limo,
00:28:35.260
and then drive to the border. They will follow. Sigilstone17 says, Mexican nationalists lay claim to
00:28:43.100
like a third of the U.S. That's why they're there. It's the rotten remains of the Aztecs and it's high
00:28:49.260
We uphold that the legacy of Cortez is uphold. Yeah. I mean, that's, yeah. Alex Adamson 55,
00:28:58.620
burning the flag of the country you chose to live in while flying the flag of the country you fled from,
00:29:03.260
leftist logic at its finest. Let's scroll down a bit. Samson, could you please help? Right. Okay.
00:29:11.820
A cruel, the insurrectionists should be put in jail and held indefinitely for their threats to our
00:29:20.140
democracy. See what they did there? I see what you did there. Neon Realist says, Governor Newsom
00:29:26.780
and Democrat politicians keep saying LAPD has situation under control. Don't need National Guard.
00:29:32.140
Meanwhile, LAPD chief at press briefing says, we're overwhelmed and it's out of control. And Neon Realist,
00:29:38.620
I showed a video of people attacking the headquarters of LAPD. Logan17pine says, also,
00:29:46.540
everyone outside of the cities hate the cities. It's just this time the news got out of the local.
00:29:52.540
The Engaged Few says, the National Guard should use those Mexican flags as aim points. Logan17pine,
00:29:59.180
if you didn't know, LA has been having riots for almost a year now. Well, we've covered lots of the
00:30:07.100
violence in LA. Yep. All right, let's go to the second segment. So part of what you're seeing in LA was
00:30:14.860
enabled by the fact that high levels of government were infiltrated by communist sympathizers and by
00:30:21.580
people who want to unduly influence politics to suit their own agendas. And we're going to talk about
00:30:30.700
something similar happening in the United Kingdom. And we want to talk about the various Muslim networks
00:30:37.340
that exist in the civil service and in the Home Office and in the unions and in the various political
00:30:45.420
parties that are trying to essentially gain sectarian influence and have the ability to control and
00:30:55.420
affect policy regardless of democratic norms. Now, if you look, you will see that, for example,
00:31:03.420
the conservatives have their own Muslim forum. In the Greens, there is a Muslim forum that is very
00:31:12.940
focused on the interests of their own community. And in the Greens, they are running Muthan Ali. I
00:31:20.220
suppose they want to say Muthan Ali, but the Pakistanis have a problem with Arabic.
00:31:24.380
They want to present themselves as the future of the Green Party, but they are not the most influential
00:31:34.140
Muslim network. That honor is reserved for the Labour Muslim network, which has been quite honest in terms
00:31:44.940
of describing the relationship between them and the Labour Party. And I'm going to read a couple of
00:31:52.540
excerpts from reports that they themselves have published in order to highlight a couple of points,
00:31:58.940
especially about how the leftist Islamist alliance ends up operating in practice and the outcomes and
00:32:07.260
influence that it has on policy. So, quoting directly from the Labour Muslim representatives report,
00:32:13.660
these guys basically surveyed a couple of hundred elected officials who are both Muslim and belong to the
00:32:21.980
Labour Party. They followed decent methodology, statistically speaking, and they came out with a
00:32:27.740
series of views. In their introduction, they say, the historic relationship between the Labour Party
00:32:34.780
and the British Muslim communities is well-established and long-standing. So, we're not accusing anybody of a
00:32:42.300
conspiracy here. This is a confession. There is a long-standing relationship between the Muslim
00:32:47.980
community and the Labour Party. For generations, they continue, Muslim voters across the country have
00:32:54.940
loyally supported Labour candidates locally and nationally, and many Muslim members have served
00:33:00.620
the party within the local CLPs. As councillors, mayors, and members of parliament, this relationship,
00:33:10.300
forged through shared commitments to social equality and civil rights, has been one of the strongest
00:33:16.140
electoral alignments in British modern political history.
00:33:21.340
Make it very clear there, don't they? Political alignments.
00:33:24.700
Are we debating this? Is this us casting aspersions or coming up with conspiracies? Or this is what they're
00:33:31.900
actually saying? They continue, Muslims are estimated to form around seven percent of the population
00:33:38.540
in England and Wales. Ahead of the 2024 general election, the Labour Muslim Network, in partnership with
00:33:45.420
Servation, published research suggesting that this support could be cut in half by the time of the next election.
00:33:54.940
Notice the threat here. If you don't do what we're saying, nice Mr. Keir Starmer, the level of support that you have,
00:34:03.100
which delivers maybe 20, 30 safe seats to Labour, will be halved. You'd better listen to us.
00:34:13.340
Already there was a 34 percent decrease in support for Labour from the previous election.
00:34:22.380
And this came as a result of independent candidates running on pro-Palestinian and anti-Islamophobia
00:34:28.540
platforms, including Leicester South, Dewsbury, Baitley. They continue with their names.
00:34:35.580
Two-thirds of councillors and mayors say that they are not treated equally to other representatives
00:34:41.260
in the Labour Party. Now our perception is that the white majority is treated as lesser, but their perception
00:34:47.420
is that it's the other way around. One in three Muslim Labour representatives describe the party as
00:34:54.140
institutionally Islamophobic. So nearly 40 percent say that the Labour Party is institutionally Islamophobic.
00:35:06.940
It's like the word racist. It's exactly the right word versus, yes.
00:35:10.540
It's like turning around and saying the Labour Party is institutionally Islamophobic,
00:35:14.860
is like saying the Labour Party is a supporter of mass open-door corporate capitalism.
00:35:19.820
It's absurd on so many levels. It just doesn't exist.
00:35:25.740
Over half do not believe that the Labour Party takes Islamophobia seriously.
00:35:30.620
This is coming at a time when new legislation around Islamophobia
00:35:35.340
could permanently curtail the freedom to discuss Islam and the errors of Islam.
00:35:41.260
We wouldn't even be here. We're not even allowed.
00:35:43.420
So for us, tell me if you disagree with this. I think that the speech, the use of speech in this
00:35:50.540
case, it's not an issue of, it's not a veridical issue. It's not an issue of portraying truth or
00:35:55.100
falsity. They will constantly say this in the same way that the left will constantly saying,
00:36:06.140
If we just completely abstract truth or falsity from it, it's just a naked power play.
00:36:10.460
Yep. Nearly 40% have experienced Islamophobia in their time as representatives.
00:36:16.460
This is Islamophobia from other Labour members.
00:36:21.500
83% believe that the Labour government should end its boycott of the Muslim Council of Britain.
00:36:29.820
Now, the reason for the boycott of the Muslim Council of Britain came about initially
00:36:36.380
because of their position on Gaza, which seems to be a theme here. They don't object to what they
00:36:45.900
do here. They do object to their position on Israel, which is a problem.
00:36:50.460
But the Deputy Secretary General had signed a declaration that has been interpreted as calling
00:36:59.260
for violence against Israel and condoning attacks on British troops.
00:37:05.420
This is what initially led to the break between the Muslim Council of Britain and the government.
00:37:12.860
So you had maximalists who claimed preposterous things.
00:37:18.060
There was a reaction. And now they say, okay, let's just lay a bit under the radar.
00:37:24.220
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. So the meeting where he signed this document was a meeting that called
00:37:34.140
for the Muslim Ummah to act against Israel back in 2009.
00:37:40.380
So he's in Britain. He views himself as part of the Muslim Ummah, first and foremost,
00:37:45.740
and wants to and the vast majority of Muslims in the Labour Party want to continue association with
00:37:55.500
this organization. Now, this man ended up having to resign and the Muslim Council of Britain ended up
00:38:01.900
saying that, no, they don't condone the statement. They don't condone his actions. But we tend to see this
00:38:07.500
dynamic where one of the members says something that is extremely embarrassing and then the institution
00:38:13.980
says, no, no, no, this doesn't represent our official position. But at the end of the day,
00:38:17.980
personnel is policy. If your organization constantly attracts these kinds of people,
00:38:22.700
then you have a problem. And they use this issue against the right all the time. Whenever somebody
00:38:28.140
on the right pops up and says something racist, they say that this is fully representative of the
00:38:33.980
conservatives or of reform or whatever it is. But they refuse to have the same standards that they
00:38:40.300
use apply to them. Absolutely. I wonder whether they are accused of being transphobic,
00:38:48.940
ever? Or being anti-feminist? So on their conservative social views,
00:38:56.300
they've had a problem with some of Labour. They've had a problem with some of Labour on their
00:39:00.780
conservative social views. And I do share some of their conservative social views.
00:39:04.300
But they, I think, them or one of the other Muslim organizations was demanding the right
00:39:09.820
to withdraw children from things like music lessons as part of their social conservatism.
00:39:15.500
But you see also the establishment saying that non-Muslims are constantly transphobic or anti-LGBTQ
00:39:23.580
if they say their opinion. But you don't see these criticisms addressed by Muslims.
00:39:29.020
Very, very rarely does this issue ever come up. They deploy these issues in a very selective manner.
00:39:39.500
They deploy these issues in a very selective manner. They condemn social conservatism
00:39:45.180
when it comes from Christians. They never condemn it or they very lightly condemn it when it comes from
00:39:51.580
Muslims. And you can see a certain level of selective outrage at play here.
00:39:57.020
And you see the basically Muslim Labour saying we are staunch allies of the Labour Party and we want to
00:40:04.780
continue with the Labour Party. And this is the whole gist in which this report is written.
00:40:11.900
Let me sort of show you a couple of more things that these people are involved in.
00:40:17.740
One of the candidates for the leadership of the Muslim Council of Britain said that choosing faith as a
00:40:28.140
primary identity for your children and of course yourself allows a solid foundation upon which to
00:40:34.700
approach the world. Note that I say primary as opposed to only. Teach them to be Muslim primarily.
00:40:41.740
So this is what the Muslim Council of Britain, one of their leadership contenders, advocates for.
00:40:48.380
And 83% of Muslim representatives who are in the Labour Party want the government to have a fully
00:40:56.220
functional relationship with this organization. So I don't know where they stand on this statement.
00:41:04.460
But as somebody who is a religious convert, I will tell you that it's natural to view religion as your
00:41:11.980
primary identity. But that Christianity doesn't clash with being British. Britain is a fundamentally
00:41:18.220
Christian country. Whereas Islam does. And I think we need to be a little bit more open about that. And I
00:41:24.060
think we need to be a little more honest about this.
00:41:25.900
I just don't think they want to be honest about it. No. And they will totally ignore this. Yep. And
00:41:32.540
they do so in a way that is very ignorant of the future and very ignorant of the clashes to come.
00:41:40.060
Because at the end of the day, as they build and grow groups within a political party, which they
00:41:46.300
think is we're trying to link coalitions. Yes. That's what sits in there. We need coalitions to be able to
00:41:51.820
get rid of this. And social justice is our coalition champion. But in the end, those coalitions will
00:41:58.460
come up against each other. Because one of them has to be in power. One has to run the show. Yes. And
00:42:05.020
that person wants, or that group, once they're in power, they will stand upon you and destroy you in
00:42:10.460
this very way that you destroyed the organizations that were in opposition to in the first place.
00:42:14.940
Yes. Yes. And this is clearly the objective. So you see Labour Muslims extremely focused on the
00:42:21.100
issue of Islamophobia. In the Fatiha, in the verse that sort of opens the Quran, which begins practically
00:42:29.980
as every Muslim prayer, the last verse in that says, keep us away from the path of those who
00:42:38.140
God is angry with, and that is always understood as meaning the Jews, and those who have been led
00:42:42.940
astray. And that is read as meaning the Christians. So the very essence of Islam is an attack on
00:42:49.900
Christianity and Judaism. This is how it came to be. It's part of a debate between Christians and Jews
00:42:56.140
over the correct way of worshiping God. And Muslims took a position in that, antagonistic to both the
00:43:03.180
preceding faiths. This kind of restriction of discussion of Islam because of Islamophobia
00:43:11.260
means that you can't have a religious discussion. It means that you just have to sort of never,
00:43:16.060
ever criticize Islam. But you'd be perfectly able to criticize Judaism or Christianity or Sikhism.
00:43:25.180
And that's where the problem comes. You will not see a Monty Python skit about Islam. No.
00:43:29.180
Of course not. When you do, you end up with a Charlie Hebdo massacre. Yeah.
00:43:32.540
And there is also the other element of subjectivizing legislation, because when we're talking about
00:43:37.500
blasphemy and about being offended, we know that wokeness has thrived on subjectivizing legislation.
00:43:44.220
I don't think it's going away. Which makes it very easy for someone to just project
00:43:49.980
Islamophobia on anyone. Yeah, I think wokenism is strengthening just behind the scenes. I think
00:43:54.140
it's changing the law and the legislation to be able to do one final push to crush us. Yep, yep.
00:44:00.620
Now, this is even more worrying because within the civil service of the British government,
00:44:07.900
there are Muslim networks that are explicitly named as such. The core aims of the civil service Muslim
00:44:17.660
network, and this is the website of the Cabinet Office. This isn't a conspiracy that these guys are
00:44:23.820
trying to infiltrate. No, no, no. This is public knowledge. It's on the Cabinet Office's website.
00:44:29.260
This is endorsed by the government and permitted by the government. Their aim,
00:44:33.980
they say, is to help create a truly inclusive workplace where civil servants of all backgrounds
00:44:40.380
fulfill their potential and thrive, where every voice is heard. Okay.
00:44:46.620
What are the core aims? Represent, support, connect, and champion Muslim civil servants across government.
00:44:53.260
You're not going to see a Christian network or a Jewish network in Pakistan or in Egypt
00:45:01.980
or in Iraq. This is not going to be tolerated. No.
00:45:03.980
But there is a whole set of civil servants in the British government who are dedicated to the core
00:45:13.740
aim of connecting and championing Muslim civil servants, generating a better understanding of Islam,
00:45:21.100
not by discussing the tenets of Islam, mind you, because that's Islamophobic, within the civil service,
00:45:26.540
and challenge discrimination misconceptions. Create a network of senior allies who recognize the lived
00:45:34.460
experience of Muslim colleagues. Yeah, it's just wokeness. And also there's the suppressed premise
00:45:40.700
that you can't understand something better by criticizing it. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And how do they do it?
00:45:48.140
They collaborate with wider diversity and inclusion networks on projects, events, etc. Recognize the
00:45:55.260
contributions of Muslims and civil service. So, fast track to promotions, essentially. Promote development
00:46:02.140
opportunities for civil service Muslim network members. Now, by definition, if you're doing this and
00:46:09.580
promoting them just for Muslims, you're not doing it based on merit, and you're excluding the non-Muslims.
00:46:17.580
Just by the definitions of words. But this is permitted.
00:46:24.700
I think we see this not just in the civil service. I think anyone who's worked in the large corporations.
00:46:31.340
Yes. When they're working in big businesses and in banks. We see all of this. The BBC certainly has one.
00:46:38.300
And I've never really liked these networks. They began with women's networks. We've got LGBT networks.
00:46:47.580
Look, at the end of the day, you should just be going in and doing your job and being promoted because you're good.
00:46:52.060
Yeah. Simple as that. The very purpose of these networks is to avoid any meritocracy. It's simply to promote the ideology of that particular group and work within it and exclude those who might come from a different group of yours who is better than you.
00:47:08.060
Yes, exactly. And we now see, obviously, employment cases and people being removed from jobs.
00:47:13.900
There's the issue of the tyranny of the minority because parties across the political spectrum make several projections about the kind of voters they're going to get.
00:47:23.980
Yeah. And that means that some small groups, some cases that are a bit bigger, may have disproportionate amount of power just because they can help you win an election.
00:47:36.540
This is literally what the threat that they're making is. This is literally what the threat that they're making is.
00:47:44.660
They're saying in this report that Labour has been losing seats to independent Muslim parties or independent Muslim candidates.
00:47:55.060
And hint, hint, the way to regain those votes is to align with us on questions around Gaza, Islamophobia, free speech, blasphemy laws, etc., etc.
00:48:08.080
Yeah. So they're wielding that threat that we are an organized minority who will vote in bloc and unless you deliver the goods to our community, we will find other candidates and this can cost you elections.
00:48:24.280
And I think, you know, in a way, look, look, do we do we blame any organization for wanting to say we're going to vote in blocs and be able to do it?
00:48:33.900
And if if the Catholics and the Christian church was able to motivate all its people to vote in a bloc, then they might be able to transform it themselves.
00:48:44.020
If it wasn't for the fact that many of them are so weak at the top that they don't even consider this as a danger or the capability of doing so.
00:48:51.060
Yeah. And they suggest that most Catholics will vote for the Labour Party.
00:48:54.540
And that's the way that the priests have done so.
00:48:57.560
Yeah. Tolerance of of tolerance is not a virtue.
00:49:03.920
Well judged, well aimed intolerance is the virtue.
00:49:08.040
When you see a problem, try to nip it in the bud.
00:49:14.580
Now, the government did shut down the civil service Muslim network.
00:49:23.880
It was an alarming continuation of anti-Muslim rhetoric spouted by top members of the British government in recent days.
00:49:31.500
On 15 March, the civil service Muslim network was suspended by Oliver Dowden.
00:49:43.200
I mean, you couldn't get more left wing than Oliver Dowden in the Labour Party.
00:49:47.400
Well, the standard for being anti-Muslim is a very good question.
00:49:53.620
The reason for this break, however, was again to do with issues relating to Israel.
00:50:00.600
So, the establishment acts in one way only, but it doesn't act to defend the public.
00:50:11.280
The union that defended the Muslim network, the public and commercial services union, this is the key union for the civil service.
00:50:37.260
It's a problem if you have the civil service championing the interests of Cuba or the well-being of communism.
00:50:44.380
But their equal opportunity unions, they support both Cuba and the Muslim network.
00:50:52.600
And what I'm looking down on that, and I find that particular image, or rather the language of the image, the guardians for the truth, for the truth.
00:51:02.800
I mean, that sounds to me that something comes straight out of the Star Wars movies, or indeed George Orwell's 1984's old movies.
00:51:19.120
Anyone else doesn't have the truth, you know, as if there is one truth.
00:51:31.980
I'm in favor of guarding the innocence of children.
00:51:42.380
I mean, I don't see any of them as truths at all.
00:51:46.080
So, essentially, these guys are, you know, championing an ideology that is at odds with the British state,
00:52:07.940
But in terms of the way that we interpret and interpret questions,
00:52:11.120
how can they dare suggest that they have the truth?
00:52:13.760
This is why the Christian God is expressed in a mystery of a triune God,
00:52:18.900
to suggest to us that we, as human beings, don't fully access the truth.
00:52:25.800
But then, after Labour took power, they were cleared.
00:52:30.840
It confirms that the issue was over Gaza and over their position on Gaza,
00:52:34.840
not over the fact that they're championing sectarianism
00:52:38.680
and that they are championing the well-being of one group versus the others.
00:52:48.160
And then now they've since reconciled and made up.
00:52:53.840
Because Keir Starmer really, really, really is worried about losing the Muslim vote in the next election.
00:53:01.200
I mean, this is like kowtowing to somebody who's beating you on a regular basis and saying,
00:53:16.000
But I know you're still going to leave me for the next person you're going to beat.
00:53:23.320
And because the Muslim Council of Britain is still not in the government's good books,
00:53:30.420
what has happened is that a new and different body has been set up
00:53:36.120
by, I would assume, somewhat like-minded people.
00:53:43.180
With the intention of being an organ that can work with the British government.
00:53:47.620
So, when one organization gets burnt, it's okay.
00:53:57.440
Labour, Conservatives, and Liberal Democrats are saying,
00:54:03.220
We want to talk to different ethnic groups and identity groups as a bloc.
00:54:07.160
The only people who aren't allowed to organize as an ethnic group or as an interest group
00:54:22.600
Let me read a bit quick because, you know, there's sometimes issues with Fed posting.
00:54:32.960
Firas is like Peter Zeehan, except he's not stuck in the boomer mindset
00:54:46.360
He's a geopolitical analyst who has had some, we all make mistakes.
00:54:54.700
Right, so, the Habsification says, people like David Wood, apostate prophet, and Hatun Tash
00:55:01.220
have been on the front lines debunking what these Islamic loons say.
00:55:11.540
Sigil Stone 17 says, the leftist Islam alliance reminds me of a comic from years ago.
00:55:18.340
A feminist dates a Muslim to own the Chads, and he viciously smacks her for speaking without
00:55:27.280
That's exactly what happened to the leftists under the Islamic revolution in Iran, as Talios
00:55:34.960
So, Stephen has a really good segment for us now.
00:55:38.900
Well, that's a praise indeed before we've even got there.
00:55:42.500
But I just want to say that, ladies and gentlemen, it looks like many of us will be terrorists,
00:55:46.520
certainly after next weeks and the way that they prevent UK.
00:55:49.580
So, the big concern over the weekend came when the Telegraph reported on Prevent UK's new
00:55:59.000
To that extent, I will say new online guidance, but actually the guidance came out refreshed,
00:56:04.700
I should say, rather than new online guidance, which says, amongst other things, that talking
00:56:10.000
about or even believing in cultural nationalism will be a reason, they say could be a reason,
00:56:19.940
Get ready to be de-radicalised, ladies and gentlemen, find yourself a little room, be
00:56:24.300
prepared to be removed, and you'll be on a de-radicalisation course in no time at all.
00:56:30.360
And it goes on to say that Prevent UK says, we define extreme right-wing terrorism, the
00:56:36.800
active or vocal support of ideologies that advocate discrimination and violence against
00:56:43.220
And the three most common would be, and we'll deal with them in a few moments.
00:56:49.120
And so, what we've got there is the idea that Prevent UK, an organisation that is funded
00:56:55.060
by the government to look after terrorism, and as I say in one of my videos, the sort of
00:56:59.820
people that blow up children in gigs and shoot police officers, now thinks that anyone
00:57:06.080
who believes in their country and as a form of support for their nation state and also
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The UK anti-terrorism programme labels cultural concerns about mass migration as extreme, not
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not just right-wing, now extreme right-wing, so we're extreme right-wings, and that we
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So, bear that badge that we should all make at the moment be having t-shirts, I'm a terrorist,
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because you say that you are tired of the threat from mass migration and the lack of integration
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Well, I just wondered that, you know, the island of strangers, obviously he should have
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reported himself to prevent UK, and certainly most of the Conservative Party are currently
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at the moment in charge, but of course that means 50-odd million of us who believe that,
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according to all polling, 60-70% of the population believe that we've got too much immigration into
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this country, that there is a lack of integration by certain ethnic and cultural groups.
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So, I love the fact that they put Western culture in scare quotes, as if this wasn't a real thing.
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So, the implication here is that, no, no, there isn't a real Western culture, that's just
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non-existent, it's sitting in your imagination, as opposed to, this is the bedrock of the modern
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world and of everything good that we have in life, Western culture.
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The sort of leftist falsification of reality implied in the scare quotes is pretty shocking.
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No, no, there's no such thing as Western culture.
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We're going to put it in Western culture, you know, it's not a real thing.
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If they wanted to say Islamic culture, they wouldn't put it in scare quotes.
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If they wanted to say Chinese, Indian, whatever, they wouldn't use that.
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Okay, you guys define, okay, white race and Western culture.
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Well, that's the next one I come in with, white ethnic nationalism.
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Mass migration from the non-white world and demographic change
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poses an existential threat to the white race and Western culture,
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which they haven't defined because they've said Western culture, you know,
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So how can an existential threat to something that doesn't exist
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I'm sorry that logic doesn't seem to work for me,
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Didn't we just see Mexican ethnic nationalists with their flag protesting?
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But of course they must be Mexican ethno-nationalists
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And then we've got the white races biologically, culturally,
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often calling for the replacement of Western parliamentary democracy,
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an alternative form of government from fascist regimes to ethno-tribalism,
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They're the ones who want to have a fascist regime and an ethnic tribalism.
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We're the ones who actually believe in parliamentary democracy.
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And we're just looking at the way that the leftists don't want it.
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So oddly enough, it's the white race that only wants that.
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So I find these three definitions deeply concerning.
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I mean, obviously there's lots of people that talked about there.
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What I saw this, because I saw this during the weekend,
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and initially I was completely, I thought they essentially said
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all these narratives are, in a sense, extreme terrorist ideologies.
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that extreme right-wing terrorism is the active or vocal support of ideologies
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that advocate discrimination or violence against minority groups.
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And you can be part of, you can subscribe to these views underneath
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these are really highly correlated to terrorism.
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So if you don't want to be associated with terrorism
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stop any kind of discourse about Western culture
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and talking about, you know, sometimes racial lines.
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there is nothing remotely correct methodologically about it.
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If you read the literature about fascism, for instance,
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Everyone says, for instance, with ultranationalism,
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because they're describing actually the movements
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They have extreme and very aggressive ultranationalism.
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They're trying to say, don't think of any form of nation.
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because once you're on the sort of prevent list
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they can then use that to apply the terrorism laws
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that they're going to confiscate your electronics.
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than they would be allowed under other legislation.
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you're prosecuted by single judges without juries,
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So this is a way of shutting down conversation, yes,
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on more and more narrow individuals about this,
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about the conversations that people are having.
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and it has legislation in place to target them.
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you automatically fall within the definition of this,
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and there is no way that any lawyer for the government
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when it gets a little bit too difficult for them.
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the very fact that they're actually concerned about