The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1184

00:00:00.080 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Wednesday the 11th of June 2025.

00:00:06.380 I'm joined by Stephen and Luca, and today we're going to be talking about America's Mexican standoff,

00:00:11.340 and what they ought to be doing about the Mexicans living in America.

00:00:16.720 A reckoning for Northern Ireland, because of course things are going brilliantly over there.

00:00:21.340 Diversity very clearly their strength.

00:00:23.680 And the total collapse of the Reform Party's credibility.

00:00:26.640 In the past week or so, for some reason, Reform's been like,

00:00:30.620 actually we're massive libs, and we're completely on board with the disinheritance of the British people from their ancient homeland.

00:00:37.060 Weird. With a right-wing party.

00:00:39.220 So, it's been a very bizarre week, frankly.

00:00:44.960 But it's been an interesting and instructive one.

00:00:47.740 So, let's begin.

00:00:48.920 So, currently in Los Angeles, and is spreading beyond Los Angeles actually,

00:00:54.760 there have been quite large anti-immigration protests, which of course have become violent,

00:01:00.040 and have been revealing about the nature of the fracture between the American people and the state,

00:01:07.420 and the people who have immigrated to America, not just in recent years, but in previous eras,

00:01:13.760 and the way that they think of themselves in relation to the rest of the United States.

00:01:18.820 And I think it's really one of those things that the Americans have to get a handle on.

00:01:23.640 And, honestly, with quite a lot of legal force.

00:01:27.920 This has to be, essentially, put to bed as a paradigm.

00:01:33.160 That there is such a thing as a hyphenated American, really, is what it ends up coming down to.

00:01:37.400 Because the American social contract is predicated on believing a series of ideas,

00:01:43.900 and deliberately and consciously incorporating yourself into that society.

00:01:47.280 And America is actually very well set up for this.

00:01:49.380 Unlike the old world, which is not like that at all.

00:01:52.500 But it's being undermined in the United States.

00:01:55.020 And that is not good.

00:01:56.420 And if that isn't allowed to continue, well, who knows what the end is.

00:02:00.520 Anyway, before we begin, I've finished and have published my amazing documentary,

00:02:05.340 The Death of Man.

00:02:06.020 Now, I don't mean to blow my own horn, but I did an unbelievable amount of work on this.

00:02:11.220 Charting the progress of the Enlightenment, and what the likely consequences are

00:02:15.580 of rendering the universe as merely something mechanical,

00:02:19.600 that is made of clockwork, and not ordained by God.

00:02:23.440 Now, I, myself, am an atheist.

00:02:25.300 So, you might say, well, but you don't believe in that.

00:02:27.280 Okay, fine.

00:02:27.800 I'm a product of modernity as much as everyone else.

00:02:30.180 But the point is, there may well be predictable consequences of this,

00:02:34.240 which lead us down quite a dark path to the end of what we consider a man to be.

00:02:41.040 So, anyway, that's on Lotuses.com now.

00:02:42.880 Go sign up.

00:02:43.380 Fight about a month.

00:02:43.940 Go watch it.

00:02:44.720 And leave a comment and tell me what you think,

00:02:46.280 because there's no definite end to the line of thought I've laid out there.

00:02:51.880 It's something that's a work.

00:02:54.820 The world is a work in progress.

00:02:56.980 And I don't think it's good news, frankly.

00:02:59.620 But anyway.

00:03:00.820 We're seeing it in live, really.

00:03:03.200 We are, yeah.

00:03:03.740 Much of what you're talking about in that video,

00:03:06.420 and the way that you've set out the analysis,

00:03:08.380 are amongst the topics that we almost talk about every day on this channel.

00:03:12.420 Yeah.

00:03:12.820 And our commentators who come on it.

00:03:15.000 Yeah.

00:03:15.280 They're all symptoms of the larger.

00:03:17.180 Exactly.

00:03:17.780 And I think I've done a fairly good job of explaining the problem with the paradigm that we're in.

00:03:21.680 But anyway, let's begin.

00:03:22.440 So yeah, as Andy Ngo pointed out, last night was the fourth night of far-left Mexican insurrection in Los Angeles.

00:03:29.660 And I think that's a completely accurate way of characterizing it.

00:03:33.740 It is absolutely a Mexican insurrection in Los Angeles.

00:03:37.140 And the Mexican nationalists are very happy to tell you that themselves.

00:03:42.080 It's been violent.

00:03:43.160 It's been up in the air.

00:03:45.520 But I'm not going to go into that.

00:03:46.860 You can find that elsewhere.

00:03:48.020 What I'm interested in is the sort of meta-politics of the situation.

00:03:54.540 What's happening around and what's really driving this.

00:03:57.900 So, for example, you had Claudia Scheinbaum, the president of Mexico, 0.70

00:04:03.480 who came out in response on the first night and said that she wished to, quote,

00:04:10.780 mobilize against whatever it was that the United States government was going to do

00:04:15.320 to try and prevent, as her complaint begins with, a 3.5% tax on remittances.

00:04:22.880 So anyone who doesn't know what a remittance is, this is when Mexicans in America send money home. 0.91

00:04:28.300 Not very American, is it? 0.78

00:04:30.220 Do Americans normally just send money out of their own pockets to foreign countries?

00:04:33.840 Usually their governments have to do that for them.

00:04:36.580 Well, their argument is we're paying for our families.

00:04:38.660 We're giving it to schools, all the rest of it.

00:04:40.640 Well, that's exactly it.

00:04:41.840 But it's like, right, so you are here as a medic.

00:04:45.380 You're here as a foreign worker, not as an American. 0.99

00:04:49.220 So you shouldn't really have American citizenship. 0.83

00:04:51.000 It's fine, like in ancient Athens, to have a class of medics.

00:04:54.020 We're foreigners who come in and work and then do whatever they want with their money

00:04:56.800 because that's what a medic is.

00:04:58.380 But they're not politically enfranchised.

00:04:59.900 No, it speaks to an entirely extractive view of what America is.

00:05:04.280 It's just something to extract resources from.

00:05:06.360 Yeah, and as one Republican senator said, we're not the world's piggy bank, actually.

00:05:10.240 And we don't take kindly threats.

00:05:11.700 But this is the issue because remittances from America to Mexico is something like $64 billion a year.

00:05:17.980 That is a lot of money leaving the United States to go to what is almost turning into a parasitic southern neighbour.

00:05:25.020 But the thing I found most interesting about this is the way that she characterised it, right?

00:05:29.160 She said, quote,

00:05:29.800 We don't want taxes on remittances from our fellow countrymen.

00:05:34.380 Yes, I noticed that.

00:05:36.180 It was very, very strong.

00:05:37.920 It's our fellow countrymen.

00:05:39.480 People have gone over to there, don't forget, crossed the border, claiming their right for asylum to be able to become American citizens.

00:05:46.620 But she demands that they're still Mexicans, still Guatemalans, still whatever they are.

00:05:51.420 And therefore, they could be able to send money back.

00:05:53.140 I mean, I always had an issue with the remittances culture because we obviously have a huge amount here.

00:05:58.700 And actually, when you're trying to do the research, even through the UN details, it's incredibly difficult to get accurate numbers from the World Bank.

00:06:05.620 There's assessments, assumptions.

00:06:07.460 But no one seems to really know what the true numbers are.

00:06:10.620 And I think as your Republican commentator in there or the senator, he was actually also indicating the connection to drug cartels.

00:06:20.400 Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, she's going to have to have some deal with the cartels or else, you know, like something like 35 Mexican politicians were shot in the run-up to the latest elections. 0.99

00:06:30.660 So Mexico is not...

00:06:33.000 Well, there are allegations she and the previous president were both connected.

00:06:36.940 I mean, I don't know the full stories of those allegations.

00:06:38.920 No, but when you have 35 people shot running for office, I think it's safe to say anyone who makes it through that hailstorm has got some sort of deal with them.

00:06:47.180 But the point being, for her, there is an ethnic particularity and connection here.

00:06:53.040 She says, no, they are our fellow countrymen.

00:06:55.500 They are colonists in America, and they are making money in America, and they're sending it home to Mexico. 0.97

00:07:00.660 And the Mexican economy, 65 billion, that's not a small amount of money.

00:07:04.460 So they don't want that to be reduced.

00:07:07.620 And so you've got...

00:07:09.280 This is in response to the president of the Mexican Senate.

00:07:12.500 But Eric Schmidt, because, of course, the president of the Mexican Senate, there doesn't seem to be any opposition I've seen coming out of Mexico to the idea of remittances.

00:07:21.400 But why would there be?

00:07:22.320 No.

00:07:22.620 It's entirely in all of their interests.

00:07:24.620 And they're not happy.

00:07:25.640 When you think about it, 3.5%, that's really not really a very great amount of money.

00:07:28.460 No, no, I was just giving a quick calculation about 1.1, 1.2 billion of the 64.

00:07:33.760 It's really not very much.

00:07:34.580 It's not very much at all.

00:07:35.500 If you're sending $100 back to Mexico, they get $96.5.

00:07:40.660 Okay?

00:07:41.140 I mean, I would expect fewer than that on just transaction fees.

00:07:45.320 You know, I'm probably getting screwed like that whenever I make a card payment.

00:07:49.280 So that's not really a very high amount.

00:07:51.460 And yet this has got them all in a tizzy.

00:07:53.600 And so good on Eric Schmidt here being like, yesterday at a press conference, he laughed at the idea.

00:07:58.580 Guess what?

00:07:59.200 The remittance tax just got 5% higher.

00:08:01.740 It should just be 100%, right?

00:08:03.280 Don't allow it.

00:08:04.180 No, don't allow it.

00:08:05.500 Give them no incentive to do it whatsoever.

00:08:07.620 Absolutely none.

00:08:08.560 And that lots of Mexicans will willingly leave, right? 1.00

00:08:11.200 But the thing is, so you've got this conflict going between the US government and the Mexican government

00:08:15.600 over the Mexican government's understanding of their citizens as essentially colonists in the United States,

00:08:23.620 sending money back.

00:08:25.000 And then the sort of lefty types decided to chime in and try to make moral arguments

00:08:31.460 as to why the Mexicans should be able to do this. 0.93

00:08:34.080 And this is where things, I think, really start to get interesting.

00:08:37.220 You have someone like Katy Perry, right?

00:08:39.280 Now, Katy Perry, not very important, but she does have millions of followers. 1.00

00:08:42.600 And she'll say stupid things to millions of people. 1.00

00:08:44.800 And so you do have to kind of debunk them. 1.00

00:08:46.320 So, Los Angeles, a place that literally begun as El Pueblo de Nuestra, Sonora, La Rina de Los Angeles,

00:08:54.160 all right, whatever, right, founded by Mexican settlers in 1781.

00:08:58.220 Okay, hang on a second.

00:08:59.100 Mexico didn't exist in 1781.

00:09:01.160 It was a province of the Spanish Empire, right?

00:09:03.720 This was once Mexican land, yeah, for about 30 years in the early 1800s, right?

00:09:09.960 The people being targeted today are often descendants of those who lived here for generations

00:09:13.500 or who came seeking safety, work, and dignity.

00:09:16.400 Okay, so what?

00:09:18.380 Could you not have stayed in space?

00:09:22.760 Unfortunately.

00:09:23.700 The air's got to her a little bit, to be honest, isn't it?

00:09:26.580 Unfortunately, deporting people to Mars is not yet something Elon Musk has figured out.

00:09:31.640 Get on that, Elon.

00:09:32.520 Stop beefing with Trump and let's deport these people to Mars.

00:09:35.780 Anyway, so, I mean, you can just look this up.

00:09:38.100 The founding of Los Angeles is not in any way a mystery hidden from the light of history or anything like that.

00:09:43.300 It was originally done in 1781, and we know exactly who it was.

00:09:47.580 There were 44 settlers, some of them from Mexico, others who were Spanish,

00:09:51.620 go over, set up a small town, and in 1821, I think it was, Mexico got its independence,

00:09:59.620 and by 1835 it was declared a city, and then it was lost to the United States by 1850

00:10:05.940 because the Mexican-American War was lost by Mexico,

00:10:09.520 because Mexico isn't really a proper state, frankly,

00:10:12.500 and it wasn't capable of mustering a proper army.

00:10:14.540 And so Mexico owned Los Angeles for a grand total of about 30 years, 0.86

00:10:21.620 the United States has owned Los Angeles for 170 years,

00:10:28.380 and the Mexicans themselves were colonists.

00:10:32.880 Yes.

00:10:33.120 Los Angeles is a long way away from Mexico, actually, if you look at it on a map.

00:10:38.000 The Mexicans are not indigenous to Los Angeles.

00:10:41.180 This was a Spanish colony that took some Mexicans from the center of America to the West Coast.

00:10:48.260 So I'm not in any way having this, oh, they had it first, they're the indigenous,

00:10:53.020 but no, they're not.

00:10:53.740 Yeah, but hang on, if we had it first in England,

00:10:56.000 Well.

00:10:56.340 You know, it doesn't apply to us.

00:10:57.920 No.

00:10:58.380 No, no, no.

00:10:58.980 But this is the general theme that you get from all of the activism around it,

00:11:06.420 but it's also the general theme that you get from the Mexicans themselves.

00:11:09.780 They don't consider themselves to be Mexicans.

00:11:12.080 Let's watch this.

00:11:12.920 Americans.

00:11:13.800 Let's watch this.

00:11:14.880 What is the best country in the world?

00:11:16.420 The best country in the world, right now, Mexico.

00:11:20.560 Do you identify as an American?

00:11:22.420 I'm a Mexican-American.

00:11:24.040 That's what they labeled me as, so I'm Mexican first.

00:11:26.860 So deportation is not so bad? 0.55

00:11:28.360 It's not so bad.

00:11:29.340 We just go on a vacation.

00:11:30.960 One week, we'll be back.

00:11:32.560 This is not just an America's soil.

00:11:35.180 No, this is indigenous soil.

00:11:36.620 This is everybody's soil.

00:11:38.100 We were here first.

00:11:39.420 Our ancestors were here first.

00:11:41.560 Why should we have to leave?

00:11:42.720 We live in this country and we want to be in this country, and even more, we're going to

00:11:47.480 continue in this country.

00:11:48.640 All the Latin countries are amazing.

00:11:51.100 All the Latin countries are amazing?

00:11:52.580 Yeah.

00:11:53.160 But why do they want to be here then?

00:11:55.400 Well, no, deportation means you stay there for good.

00:11:57.440 You don't come back.

00:11:58.140 I don't think that happens.

00:11:59.680 I'll be right back.

00:12:00.400 Right, so as you can see from the people protesting, they have a colonialist mindset.

00:12:10.420 Yes.

00:12:10.920 We have somehow been allowed to live here.

00:12:13.880 Why should we leave?

00:12:14.500 Well, the answer is you lost a war, and Mexico is not the administrative body that governs California.

00:12:20.100 It's actually the United States government, and if they're going to make you leave, then

00:12:22.400 they're going to make you leave.

00:12:23.100 If you don't like it, well, arm yourselves up and see how it goes, right?

00:12:26.660 And this is why Mexico talking tough to the United States, it's like, what do you think 0.72

00:12:31.540 you're going to do?

00:12:32.160 You don't have control of large portions of your country.

00:12:34.360 You're not going to do anything to the United States government.

00:12:36.260 And to be honest with you, if I have Trump, I'd just annex a bit of Mexico.

00:12:39.320 I'm not even joking.

00:12:40.820 I would literally just send 2,000 guys down, choose a border town, and say, right, this

00:12:45.500 is American territory now.

00:12:46.900 Now what?

00:12:47.440 What now? 0.97

00:12:48.040 I would literally be upping the ante and just tell them to screw themselves.

00:12:52.380 Also, the caliber of a colonist is not exactly the same, is it?

00:12:57.860 You think about where the true wealth of California came from, with the gold rush in the middle

00:13:02.580 of the 1800s, and these prospectors, these incredible industrial men who, whereas South 0.76

00:13:08.340 America never really seemed to be able to get itself, it was always volatile, always constantly

00:13:13.540 falling in on itself.

00:13:14.760 Also, California and the desert leading up to it, as well as the area that's now Texas,

00:13:20.200 was basically unpopulated, right?

00:13:22.380 When the Mexican government first invited Anglo settlers to go to Texas, there were 7,000

00:13:29.280 people occupying that entire territory.

00:13:31.380 Right.

00:13:31.600 So that is basically eminent.

00:13:32.400 I'm kind of liking this idea.

00:13:33.560 I mean, obviously Trump has renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Texas.

00:13:38.960 Gulf of America.

00:13:39.860 Gulf of America.

00:13:40.840 So why don't you just take over Mexico and just call it Trumpico?

00:13:44.640 Maybe, if you want.

00:13:45.740 Just do anything because these people clearly don't want to be there.

00:13:49.680 And then they're not respectful.

00:13:50.860 Apart from money.

00:13:51.360 They're not respectful.

00:13:52.460 I mean, look at this one.

00:13:54.460 This is our city, and this was Mexico. 0.91

00:13:57.900 You can't kick us out of the land that was ours.

00:14:00.600 We still...

00:14:01.180 Yeah, we can, actually.

00:14:03.040 Like, this is what men with guns do.

00:14:05.300 This is all history.

00:14:07.080 We absolutely can, but notice this.

00:14:09.040 Right.

00:14:09.480 This is ours, not yours. 0.85

00:14:11.420 We are not you.

00:14:12.920 We are not Americans.

00:14:14.460 We are Mexicans.

00:14:15.400 And we're unhappy that you colonized us.

00:14:17.780 And you might be like, okay, well, you know, this theme, you say, okay, it's just the activists.

00:14:24.180 It's just protesters.

00:14:25.520 It's just people online.

00:14:27.700 This surely isn't really that much of a deal.

00:14:29.320 Are they really being serious about that?

00:14:30.600 Yeah.

00:14:31.160 Because here's the president of the Mexico Senate saying, yeah, we're going to build a wall.

00:14:35.080 And we are going to pay for it.

00:14:35.900 But look at the wall that he wants.

00:14:37.500 He wants a return to the 1830 borders. 0.94

00:14:39.420 It's not just ridiculous activists on the floor. 0.71

00:14:42.720 It is also the elected politicians in Mexico. 0.93

00:14:45.400 So they do like borders.

00:14:46.700 They're just questioning where the border actually lies.

00:14:49.660 Yeah, that's right.

00:14:50.280 They just don't like your borders.

00:14:51.640 Yeah.

00:14:51.800 Because your borders contain wealth.

00:14:53.860 And Mexico's borders contain trouble.

00:14:56.120 And what they would actually like is access to your wealth by exporting their people into 1.00

00:15:00.800 your land so they can recolonize it for the future.

00:15:03.080 And bringing you their trouble.

00:15:05.060 Yeah, exactly.

00:15:05.720 But look at what he's saying here.

00:15:07.280 We're all in trouble if Italy and Maloney then decide that they want to reenact their

00:15:10.560 borders.

00:15:12.540 Thankfully, they're never going to be able to do that.

00:15:14.860 Same reasons that Mexicans can't. 1.00

00:15:16.780 But anyway, you'll see this.

00:15:18.560 We'll do it according to the 1830 map of Mexico.

00:15:20.380 Mexicans were settled in these territories before the US.

00:15:22.800 Mexicans living there are in what has always been their homeland.

00:15:27.020 Okay.

00:15:27.260 So now we have ethnic claims from an irredentist Mexican government that completely coheres with

00:15:35.700 what the activists themselves also believe.

00:15:37.860 They are not Americans. 1.00

00:15:39.540 They are Mexicans. 1.00

00:15:40.860 So now what are you going to do about that?

00:15:43.000 Trump is not having it.

00:15:44.940 Right?

00:15:45.080 Let's watch a little bit of this speech.

00:15:46.620 And Trump is absolutely right in this speech.

00:15:48.520 The agitators are throwing firebombs, Molotov cocktails, lighting vehicles ablaze.

00:15:56.240 You saw all the cars that were burning, mobbing police officers and ice officers who are the 0.61

00:16:01.800 toughest people you'll ever meet.

00:16:03.560 And they love our country.

00:16:04.620 And they're getting really tried to.

00:16:07.920 They want to stomp on them, but they're too tough.

00:16:09.760 They don't allow it.

00:16:10.560 And attempting to infiltrate and occupy federal buildings wearing armor and face shields.

00:16:16.620 The best money can buy.

00:16:17.740 Somebody's financing it.

00:16:19.400 We're going to find out through Pam Bondi and Department of Justice who it is.

00:16:24.480 They're already on it.

00:16:25.460 Who's financing all this equipment?

00:16:27.620 Very professional.

00:16:29.220 Under the Trump administration, this anarchy will not stand.

00:16:33.980 We will not allow federal agents to be attacked.

00:16:36.320 And we will not allow an American city to be invaded and conquered by a foreign enemy.

00:16:42.900 Right.

00:16:43.660 That.

00:16:44.220 That is correct.

00:16:45.920 They call themselves foreign. 0.99

00:16:48.440 They have literally explicitly, and again, it's the activists.

00:16:51.780 It's the people online.

00:16:52.620 It's the government.

00:16:53.460 Have literally explicitly said, these are our countrymen.

00:16:56.660 This is our territory.

00:16:57.960 And as part of the demographic wave that we are happy to send into your country, we are 0.93

00:17:03.060 going to take it back.

00:17:04.200 We want our old borders back.

00:17:05.620 Like, okay, Trump recognizes it as an invasion.

00:17:09.340 And it's correct.

00:17:10.660 This is what is happening.

00:17:12.060 And the average sort of lib who's just like, oh, but what about individual human rights?

00:17:16.340 What about the country?

00:17:17.180 No, no, no.

00:17:17.800 This is not what's happening.

00:17:18.720 What's happening here is on a much more human level of the way that politics works.

00:17:24.840 It is the collective ego of the two sides of people.

00:17:30.780 And Trump is the kind of politician who can sense the collective ego of America.

00:17:34.980 Many politicians can't do that for some reason these days, but the Mexican president can, the president of the Mexican Senate can, and Donald Trump can.

00:17:43.120 So he's like, no, we're not having this foreign invasion.

00:17:45.260 We are going to liberate Los Angeles.

00:17:47.480 And good for them.

00:17:48.400 So Trump has indeed sent troops, the National Guard, to Los Angeles.

00:17:57.380 Newsom has been squealing about this like a stuck pig, but he's not really been able to do anything about it.

00:18:02.900 I mean, the media is being like, oh, I can't get that for some reason. 0.77

00:18:05.800 Is it because we're in Europe or something like this?

00:18:10.940 Okay.

00:18:11.420 So what this ABC News article said is that there are 4,800 activated Guard and Marine personnel in LA compared to the 2,500 troops in Iraq and 1,500 in Syria.

00:18:22.880 Good.

00:18:24.140 Good.

00:18:24.600 Why would that matter?

00:18:25.880 If you've got an insurrection by people who are claiming that they're Mexicans and that this is Mexico's land, which is exactly the same as somebody going into a different country and coming over here like Germany and saying, you know, Britain is German because the Angles came from us first and we want it back, Mr. Hiller.

00:18:42.680 We're quite happy to put our own military on our own borders and repel them. 0.95

00:18:47.120 So the idea that just because they happen to have come over, claimed asylum doesn't change the fact if they're saying that they're Mexican and it's a Mexican country.

00:18:58.200 I mean, if they're literally acting at the behest of their own governments as well, like, sorry, this is not just a series of individuals who are given, you know, for some reason given asylum or let legally to allow in the country.

00:19:10.260 These are people who collectively understand themselves to be operating on behalf of a foreign state and they're demanding the Americans cede territory to this foreign state.

00:19:18.280 And their government accepts, yeah, no, they should be ceding foreign territory to our state.

00:19:22.340 They should be giving us their money.

00:19:23.960 What was he actually claiming here in this video?

00:19:26.140 Was he saying that, you know, he wants all that land in America all up to those borders?

00:19:30.100 Yeah, I mean, he's just tough talking.

00:19:31.720 He's not going to enforce it or anything like that.

00:19:33.660 But this is unacceptable and totally disrespectful to the Americans.

00:19:37.760 And the fact that you've got people as high up as Gavin Newsom siding with them basically has an entire state in rebellion?

00:19:45.520 Yeah, essentially.

00:19:47.760 I mean, at the moment, California is filing lawsuits against Trump of his unlawful deployment.

00:19:54.860 But really, this is not about, you know, something that can be settled by the law.

00:19:59.980 This is about something that has to be settled by sentiment, right?

00:20:03.220 It is not acceptable to have presumably millions of Mexicans in the United States, particularly in California, who are like, no, this we're going to flip this territory for Mexico. 1.00

00:20:13.780 Are we seeing any of the kind of influencers like, you know, Charlie Kirk or others that are behind the kind of Trump philosophy being able to promulgate this idea that Trump should be saying that if you are actually Mexican, claiming that you're Mexican, this is Mexican land.

00:20:29.360 You have no right to be here.

00:20:30.780 Are we seeing that at all?

00:20:31.660 Is there any push in that?

00:20:33.000 I haven't seen anyone say explicitly that.

00:20:35.840 But you can see there's a much more nativist direction in which the American MAGA.

00:20:39.680 I mean, one of the thing that I've seen from a few of them is we should stop accepting third world immigrants. 1.00

00:20:46.720 Yeah, so that's what I saw.

00:20:47.680 Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh.

00:20:48.820 Yeah, Matt Walsh.

00:20:49.580 Yeah, all the sort of conservative ink sort of types.

00:20:51.860 And that is a good start.

00:20:53.900 But they're not pushing.

00:20:54.540 But it's far too late for them.

00:20:56.120 There are millions of Mexicans in Los Angeles and various other places who aren't Americans, don't think they're Americans, and actually, viva la Mexico, right? 0.91

00:21:04.580 And you've got the sort of like brain look conservative take of, oh, why are they protesting about being deported to a place they love?

00:21:09.560 No, they're imperialists.

00:21:11.300 They want your territory.

00:21:12.780 That's why they're there, to claim the territory.

00:21:15.040 And they will just tell you this when you ask them, right?

00:21:17.520 So anyway, there's going to be a legal action over it. 0.97

00:21:20.260 And Gavin Newsom, like I said, he's been squealing like an absolute pig over this. 0.97

00:21:23.120 Oh, Donald Trump's acting like a dictator. 0.99

00:21:25.900 Come and arrest me.

00:21:27.000 And it's like, look, man, you have a genuine foreign insurrection happening on your hands. 0.68

00:21:31.340 Like, you have to do something.

00:21:34.060 And so when I asked, do people agree with Trump deploying the National Guard so a bunch of Mexicans and communists don't burn down Los Angeles? 1.00

00:21:41.760 And one of them used to be one of America's jewel cities, like, you know, San Francisco and Los Angeles.

00:21:47.940 When I was growing up, these were places that were sort of almost a myth and legend.

00:21:52.760 They were, weren't they?

00:21:54.220 They were.

00:21:54.800 You'd see the cars coming down, you know, dirty Harry pulling out.

00:21:58.740 Exactly.

00:21:59.100 The movies came from here, you know, and the weather was always beautiful.

00:22:03.100 The people were beautiful.

00:22:03.820 And it's a shock when you go there.

00:22:05.420 It's atrocious.

00:22:06.160 I mean, I got there.

00:22:06.700 I got there.

00:22:07.120 It's a huge shock.

00:22:09.240 Absolutely.

00:22:09.500 And nice parts are actually those away from the cities.

00:22:12.500 Absolutely.

00:22:12.720 You know, I had some lovely places where you went and got great wines, the vineyards out there.

00:22:17.980 But they're filled with, like, real Americans. 0.77

00:22:19.820 People over there.

00:22:20.960 Not like the city.

00:22:21.660 Not hyphened Americans.

00:22:22.940 Yeah.

00:22:23.700 Again, not Mexican Americans where I'm Mexico first. 0.64

00:22:27.440 No.

00:22:27.920 It shouldn't be controversial to say this.

00:22:30.440 And yet what we're saying is a controversial statement, right?

00:22:32.620 But anyway, nearly two-thirds of Americans are like, yes, do something about the Mexicans rampaging around Los Angeles. 1.00

00:22:39.520 But that was one poll.

00:22:41.560 YouGov did a poll.

00:22:42.940 And apparently 45% of the people were like, no, I love Mexicans rampaging around Mexico and trying to flip the state to Mexico. 0.98

00:22:49.840 I mean, like, for anyone who doesn't know, this is what happened.

00:22:51.660 This is how Texas ended up joining the United States, right?

00:22:54.500 Basically, the Mexicans were like, okay, we've got a giant empty territory. 1.00

00:22:59.040 We'll accept some Anglo immigrants into it.

00:23:01.060 And they accepted something like 200,000 or something like that.

00:23:03.360 And then they were like, yeah, we don't want to be part of Mexico because we're not Mexicans.

00:23:07.020 And therefore, they revolted.

00:23:08.120 They had an independent republic for about 10 years, and then they joined the United States.

00:23:11.140 I wonder what would have happened if Trump said, okay, have California.

00:23:14.160 I'm going to close off the border, by the way.

00:23:16.520 And, you know, it's done.

00:23:18.280 You're a done deal now.

00:23:19.240 Get into Mexico. 0.76

00:23:20.460 How quickly would all those companies that are there shift from there?

00:23:25.820 Because they know that the cartels are coming.

00:23:27.960 The gangsters are going to control them.

00:23:29.760 And all the nice holiday resorts and houses that they might have picked up over the years will disappear to when Mr. Pueblo turns around and says, it is my house.

00:23:37.220 It would be very, very quickly.

00:23:38.740 But I'm very tired of the sort of mindset of retreat.

00:23:41.320 No, no.

00:23:42.340 I'm using it as a set of point.

00:23:43.380 Yeah, I know.

00:23:44.060 I'm not saying it's you.

00:23:45.280 But no, go and annex a couple of Mexican border towns and then expel the occupants or something.

00:23:49.540 I don't know.

00:23:50.520 Like, teach them a lesson is my opinion.

00:23:53.340 But the point is, even then, 38% approve, 45% disprove, 17% not sure.

00:23:59.460 We'll take silence as consent.

00:24:01.300 And so most approve.

00:24:02.800 But the point that I find really interesting about this is Newsom has basically taken ownership of all of the Mexicans in California. 0.72

00:24:10.040 Right?

00:24:10.360 I mean, look at what he says here.

00:24:11.680 Right?

00:24:12.400 California will keep fighting on behalf of all our people, including in the courts.

00:24:17.280 Right?

00:24:17.940 So the Mexicans who are like, viva la Mexico. 1.00

00:24:21.100 California is Mexican soil.

00:24:23.700 Gavin Newsom's like, yeah, they're our people.

00:24:25.620 It's like, so what?

00:24:26.460 Are you going to join Mexico?

00:24:27.980 What do you think the options are here? 0.99

00:24:30.040 Like, this is ridiculous. 0.98

00:24:31.020 And then just screaming that Trump's a dictator, even though he obviously isn't a dictator. 0.99

00:24:35.440 Yeah.

00:24:35.600 And the thing is, like, okay, what's the plan, Gavin?

00:24:40.820 Right?

00:24:41.160 Saying, oh, this is un-American.

00:24:43.980 Sorry, deploying the Marines to stop a Mexican incursion into America actually is pretty traditional for Americans. 0.76

00:24:52.620 Yeah, it's got precedent.

00:24:53.280 Yeah, it's got precedent.

00:24:54.280 It's how you ended up with California in the first place.

00:24:56.680 But, you know, saying, oh, these are our people.

00:24:58.820 It's un-American. 0.82

00:24:59.920 It's like, but the thing is, is this not un-American? 0.52

00:25:02.700 It's standing on top of a burning police car waving a Mexican flag, not un-American, to Gavin Newsom.

00:25:07.100 This is what he's in defense of.

00:25:08.860 It's like, sorry, do you think this guy thinks of himself as an American?

00:25:12.140 Or do you think he thinks of himself as a colonizer?

00:25:15.360 He is there to take Mexican territory. 0.98

00:25:18.100 And Gavin Newsom can sit there and whine, oh, arrest me all you want.

00:25:21.220 But that's the deal.

00:25:22.320 And I guess I'll just finish this one on Douglas Mackey has been looking into the legal situation here.

00:25:28.080 It is possible for anyone who's been participating in an insurrection or rebellion to have their citizenship revoked.

00:25:36.280 So if Trump were to have it done through the courts that actually this happy chappy here is actually not an American, 0.99

00:25:47.540 is actually someone who's engaged in an insurrection here, which, I mean, it kind of looks like it to me.

00:25:53.400 Like, yes, we're rejecting the state authority of the police and waving a Mexican flag as if this is claimed territory.

00:26:00.280 I mean, I don't think it's the weakest argument I've ever heard for what an insurrection could actually be.

00:26:07.800 Well, what you can do is get them denaturalized.

00:26:10.840 And once they're denaturalized, you could deport them.

00:26:13.120 So there is actually a legal route by which this could all be done.

00:26:18.360 And the Mexican population of California could just be sent home, which is where really they belong, isn't it? 1.00

00:26:25.320 I mean, it is in their hearts anyway.

00:26:27.700 So anyway, absolutely crazy.

00:26:30.240 And I don't think this is going to be the end of it or anything like that.

00:26:32.700 But these are the fractures that are being dealt with here, right?

00:26:38.480 You have a large population of foreign people who understand themselves to be foreign and not in any way interested in becoming Americans, 0.97

00:26:46.620 but are instead very interested in reclaiming your territory where you've allowed them to live for Mexico.

00:26:52.700 And it's like, okay, you're going to have to deal with that, right?

00:26:55.840 You're going to have to deal with that at some point or you'll end up with a Texas situation on your hands.

00:26:59.760 Lots of comments on this.

00:27:04.540 I'll be surprised if there isn't.

00:27:06.240 Yeah.

00:27:08.180 It's always too low.

00:27:09.380 I can't ever see the thing.

00:27:13.560 Logan says, happy to say my LA clients are hurricane.

00:27:15.900 No one was hurt.

00:27:16.740 A side note, as a smarter man than me said, make flogging great again.

00:27:20.900 Yeah, I'm toasting.

00:27:22.720 The Engaged Few says, if one Mexican soldier is found on US soil,

00:27:25.940 Shine Bomb should get a visit from Hellfire. 0.88

00:27:27.460 Well, I mean, I don't think blowing her up is the necessary thing, 0.96

00:27:30.660 but just honestly, just annex a couple of crappy border towns. 0.98

00:27:33.560 Just teach them a lesson.

00:27:34.520 Well, the cartels will just replace whoever they feel is good.

00:27:36.940 Exactly, yes.

00:27:37.920 Exactly.

00:27:39.700 Has anyone seen China build a 158-kilometer highway entirely by autonomous robots and drones?

00:27:43.780 No, I haven't, but it's not surprising.

00:27:47.680 Sigil Stone says, General Motors has announced a $4 billion push to move back the manufacturing out of Mexico and back to the US. 1.00

00:27:53.800 Sucks to suck. 0.99

00:27:54.440 If I were Trump, I would just annex a bit of Mexico. 1.00

00:27:57.960 Carl, we already have Mississippi.

00:27:59.160 We don't need another failed state.

00:28:00.960 Yeah, I know, but this is about the principle of it.

00:28:03.640 Like, oh, we're going to take California.

00:28:04.820 No, you're not.

00:28:05.300 And you're going to lose something now.

00:28:06.940 Neil and Rilla said, LA was founded by Spanish missionaries, not indigenous natives, as part of Spain's empire.

00:28:11.860 Well, they did have some Mexicans with them, but Mexicans aren't from California. 0.83

00:28:15.060 So, when Mexico lost California in 1848, only 7,500 Mexicans lived there.

00:28:21.040 Most were not born in California, obviously.

00:28:23.720 Ryan says, America crushed Mexico all the way to Mexico City in the Polk administration.

00:28:27.600 That's because Mexico, their armies have been always terrible, frankly. 0.99

00:28:32.080 Mexico's independence came down entirely to a debate, decided Mexico was trouble and left.

00:28:38.040 Trump needs a Polk portrait.

00:28:39.280 There, that would be funny.

00:28:40.560 If Mexico wants to push the old indigenous land claims, do they also want to push the old way of how that's handled?

00:28:46.780 They want a new Pax Romana to exterminate the very concept of Mexican.

00:28:50.820 I'm sure they don't.

00:28:51.860 Be careful dragging the Pax into the modern day. 0.99

00:28:54.980 You'll get more of it than you want.

00:28:57.460 Josio says, Mexican food is slop.

00:28:59.020 Hey, man, you'd have to persuade me.

00:29:01.560 And Neo says, of the roughly 200 men who fought defending the Alamo, 20 were Mexicans under the command of Juan Sequin and Gregorio Espaza.

00:29:10.360 It's why Mexicans in Texas are a different character, calling them Tejanos. 0.95

00:29:14.580 Very interesting.

00:29:15.420 Anyway, let's, no, I didn't know that, but let's move on.

00:29:17.880 All right, so, troubles in Northern Ireland, I'm afraid, though perhaps those that Ireland isn't usually historically associated with.

00:29:28.020 It's a different flavour of trouble, unfortunately.

00:29:30.540 I can't help but notice that the theme of the podcast today is the echoes of history coming back to haunt us.

00:29:36.180 Yeah, yeah, it seems to be.

00:29:38.580 And I suppose that's quite relevant because a lot like, it's really coming down to a question of land disputes, isn't it?

00:29:45.960 And who has a right to which particular territory?

00:29:49.380 And I would like to suggest, admittedly, controversially, that perhaps the Irish have a right to Ireland. 0.87

00:29:57.680 Now, I know this might seem a controversial take.

00:30:00.740 Well, it's radical.

00:30:01.740 It is.

00:30:02.200 And the reason it's become so radical, as you no doubt highlight in your new documentary, The Death of Man, is the enlightenment story of the rationalisation of the world and the way that it's equalised.

00:30:16.620 Yeah.

00:30:16.980 And erodes any particularisms that mean that certain places belong to certain people and to eradicate the categories that basically make genuine human diversity in the world actually worth it.

00:30:33.040 Or even possible.

00:30:34.200 I mean, the very notion of the enlightenment is the atomised individual who exists prior to their existence within a group.

00:30:39.620 And so really what liberalism and the enlightenment as a whole is trying to do is liberate us from all of these unchosen obligations.

00:30:46.460 So we are essentially just like pre-social individuals that just exist without forming into groups.

00:30:53.480 And it's like, OK, but that's crazy and not true.

00:30:55.420 That was never the case.

00:30:56.620 We've never existed.

00:30:57.260 We're an atom, but we just don't form into anything else.

00:31:00.100 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:00.580 That's it.

00:31:01.320 And that's what liberalism...

00:31:02.220 Maybe we just float around and just bounce off one another.

00:31:04.480 But that's certainly what the liberalist idea is, that individuality of singleness.

00:31:09.640 And I also look, it's easy to control.

00:31:12.480 If you don't have any bonds to society, if you don't have bonds to a country, if you don't have bonds to your family, then the biggest atom with the way of sledgehammering over you is able to control you.

00:31:23.940 I mean, Rousseau expressly said that people should be maximally dependent on the state.

00:31:27.240 But the point is, in this documentary, I'm pointing out that there are actually some logical consequences of that that are pretty negative, actually.

00:31:34.960 And we end up in a completely materialistic world in which nothing is special and nothing is sacred, and that's not good.

00:31:42.660 No, not at all.

00:31:43.640 You know, the Enlightenment was the knife we drew across God's throat.

00:31:47.400 So, if you're interested in seeing how we got there, how the Enlightenment has brought us to this point, go and check out Carl's wonderful documentary.

00:31:59.460 I'm making quite a strong claim there, I appreciate it.

00:32:01.340 I think I back it up in the documentary.

00:32:04.580 So, let's assess how we got where we got with the recent riots that we saw across Northern Ireland these past few days.

00:32:12.940 Sorry, just a quick thing.

00:32:14.040 I've only been following this tangentially.

00:32:15.300 There's been, what, two or three days of actual rioting.

00:32:17.360 There were two days of rioting.

00:32:18.720 Two days of rioting.

00:32:18.980 Yeah, two days of rioting.

00:32:19.880 It's day four as well now.

00:32:21.480 I think we're on day four today, just a little bit at the same time as California went off.

00:32:25.300 The original event...

00:32:26.520 Not that I'm linking the two together in a suspicious way.

00:32:29.820 No.

00:32:30.400 Although there are...

00:32:31.500 I'll get to it.

00:32:32.820 Hang on.

00:32:33.160 So, one of the interesting things...

00:32:34.540 So, this, in answer to your question, Stephen, this all really kicked off on Saturday.

00:32:39.000 Right.

00:32:39.180 This kicked off on Saturday because there was news that a local 13-year-old girl was attempt...

00:32:50.180 Well, there was an attempted rape by two 14-year-old boys.

00:32:55.440 Right.

00:32:55.580 And this is, just for a bit of background, on Ballymina, the town that this happened in.

00:33:03.320 It's the seventh largest town in Northern Ireland.

00:33:06.660 But as we know, Northern Ireland doesn't have a particularly high population.

00:33:10.620 There's just...

00:33:10.900 1.6 million.

00:33:11.700 2 million.

00:33:12.440 Yeah.

00:33:12.800 1.9.

00:33:13.520 And this town in particular only has about 30,000 people living in it.

00:33:20.380 So, it's a very small place in the grand scheme of things.

00:33:23.740 And this...

00:33:24.920 And one of the also interesting things is the fact that the town itself is actually 96% ethnically Irish.

00:33:35.200 Okay.

00:33:35.900 Or is it Northern Irish?

00:33:37.500 Northern Irish, yes.

00:33:38.620 So, what we had here with this...

00:33:43.700 So, these two boys were brought in and, you know, their case was assessed.

00:33:50.520 And one of the telling things was that they required Romanian interpreters.

00:33:55.880 Oh, did they?

00:33:56.460 In order to process...

00:33:58.320 Yeah.

00:33:58.620 In order to deny the allegations.

00:34:01.260 Right.

00:34:02.740 So, that speaks to just what we're dealing with here.

00:34:06.180 So, some just general information about...

00:34:09.760 Because even though Ballymina is 96% Irish... 0.57

00:34:14.140 One particular street is...

00:34:16.020 It just so happens to be this place of, yes, Clonavon Terrace.

00:34:21.140 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:34:22.140 And you've got...

00:34:22.960 So, 57% were not born in either the island of Ireland or Great Britain.

00:34:30.760 64% were of a foreign background.

00:34:33.220 And 60% of Harveyville primary school students don't speak English as a first language.

00:34:41.100 So, it's a very small colony they have living among them.

00:34:44.840 It is.

00:34:45.500 So, I go to here, yeah, as I say, 94% white overall.

00:34:50.840 And this here, though, is interesting.

00:34:52.920 So, they're mainly...

00:34:54.300 You talk about the Irish, so these are mainly Catholics.

00:34:57.340 So, these would have been the kind of pro-unification of Ireland and, let's say, you know, friends with the other Sinn Féin-type supporters.

00:35:07.080 Is that how they also vote?

00:35:09.360 Well, I've...

00:35:10.000 No, it looks like it's going to be majority Protestant raised.

00:35:12.300 Oh, is it?

00:35:12.940 Oh, the religion on the right. 0.74

00:35:14.220 Yeah, you've got about 50% sort of Protestant or no religion.

00:35:19.680 Okay.

00:35:20.680 So, yeah, it's still majority Northern Irish, Anglo-Irish, I guess we call them.

00:35:26.760 I'm not sure.

00:35:27.620 But it's also interesting, isn't it, to, you know, just assess the past few years of Irish history and how, you know, we saw recently, didn't we, the fact that Irish Catholics and Protestants banding together in the face of mass immigration.

00:35:42.980 Well, perhaps we're more alike than we previously thought.

00:35:45.360 Yeah.

00:35:45.780 That's what I was thinking, just driving towards, is where we're getting to on this.

00:35:51.020 Absolutely.

00:35:51.800 And one thing that I also just wanted to bring up as regards to the census was the fact that of those who are foreign-born, 52% of them arrived in the past 15 years.

00:36:03.960 Yeah.

00:36:04.600 Right.

00:36:04.840 So, even though Northern Ireland, generally speaking, has, until now, been relatively more protected from mass immigration than other parts of the United Kingdom, it's coming. 0.95

00:36:18.600 Yeah.

00:36:18.900 It's always coming.

00:36:20.160 It's always on the horizon.

00:36:21.520 So, yeah, so just, I just want to pause on that, because there are a lot of people who, I bet, are watching this, who are in some nice little village somewhere in Devon, or somewhere in the Northeast, maybe Northern Ireland, who are just thinking, well, these are problems that are a long way away from me.

00:36:35.820 You know, we haven't got a diversified thing yet.

00:36:37.880 We've only got, you know, two Indian restaurants and a Turkish barber's.

00:36:40.720 What's the problem?

00:36:41.240 Yeah, this is the science.

00:36:42.320 Yes.

00:36:42.520 This is the beginning of your diversification.

00:36:44.140 It is coming.

00:36:44.900 It is spreading out.

00:36:45.680 They're going to get the entire country. 0.72

00:36:47.600 Nowhere is going to be safe.

00:36:48.740 The fires of Isengard will spread. 1.00

00:36:51.600 Precisely.

00:36:52.260 Yes.

00:36:52.540 Precisely.

00:36:53.440 So, as regards, so, off the back of this attempted rape that these two boys have been charged with, obviously, the locals of the town wanted to obviously come out in defiance against this, what is slowly becoming an enclave, right, against the rest of the community.

00:37:12.720 And you can see here, as David points out, these locals organising on Facebook and trying to hold the, so, pardon me, have seven.

00:37:22.840 And from there, this is where, again, it starts out and you can tell that tensions are very, very high.

00:37:31.400 And, ultimately, some rash, warm-blooded actors are obviously going to demand personal vigilante justice for this.

00:37:41.780 And, obviously, the reason for this is because, you know, even though the demographics of this particular town might be relatively homogenous, they're not blind to what goes on in other places.

00:37:56.020 They've seen Southport, they've seen Dublin, they know what happens, they know, as you were saying earlier, they know where this leads, right?

00:38:04.920 And so, even though I'm obviously not condoning mass violence and all these sorts of things, you can understand why people, when you take, when the state takes justice away from them, and you can no longer go to a state for justice, why people will inevitably take matters into their own house.

00:38:23.480 The liberals are going to argue, aren't they, very clearly, oh, no, we are doing justice, we've took them in, we've given them, we're questioning them, you've not gone through the court system yet, just as they did with Southport.

00:38:34.060 And, by the way, this is just a bunch of far-rightists who are trying to cause trouble on immigration.

00:38:39.120 And I've always said, though, be very, very careful about who's actually starting these riots.

00:38:44.820 It goes back to when I was in the Moss Side riots, and I saw them as a boy, that it was actually very posh students dealing with the Molotov cocktails, trying to hand it to us, to throw.

00:38:54.640 How do we know that this is not state-backed organisation, or lefties, Antifa, trying to do this, so that they can give a bad name, just as they did in Southport?

00:39:03.860 Right, well, exactly.

00:39:04.880 In my view.

00:39:06.060 Well, no, it's a genuine concern.

00:39:08.480 It's a genuine concern.

00:39:09.720 And we know from the way that the British state deals with these sort of things.

00:39:14.040 That's exactly what we're getting to.

00:39:15.420 They will absolutely manipulate events in order to create the outcome that they want, which will justify more crackdown, more power, and more disenfranchisement of the working people.

00:39:26.860 This is the real question of justice.

00:39:28.780 The individual case, as bad as it obviously is, is not the justice that is being denied. 0.92

00:39:33.800 The justice that is being denied is the ability to have a safe and harmonious community in which you don't have to worry about your daughters being raped by foreigners. 0.84

00:39:42.920 That's the justice that's being denied.

00:39:45.360 People don't articulate it that way, but that's what's really driving this.

00:39:51.200 And I've just got a video here because it goes through the day quite succinctly.

00:39:57.800 So we'll just watch this for a second.

00:39:59.540 So one thing I just want to emphasize, you can't talk over it.

00:40:04.640 If the noise is on, you just can't hear it.

00:40:06.720 So what's going on here?

00:40:08.260 Well, this is so you can see here that there's a vigil, there's a mass gathering, and then the police move in.

00:40:15.060 Now, obviously, there's fire.

00:40:16.940 Yeah, what's on fire there?

00:40:18.460 Bins, garbage, anything flammable.

00:40:21.280 There were bricks being hurled at police cars.

00:40:24.540 There were molotovs being thrown, and there was, there does seem to have been quite a deal of violence.

00:40:32.840 Over the, some 15 people were arrested, and almost just as many policemen were injured over the past few days.

00:40:42.460 So it didn't seem to have been quite a deal of violence.

00:40:47.220 The consequence, what was the size of the town again?

00:40:50.580 30,000-ish.

00:40:51.580 30,000, and now I've already just counted nine militarized, kind of army-style police vans with batons and all the rest of it,

00:41:00.140 for a street of 30,000 going down one street.

00:41:02.880 You know, this, to me, looks like the state overreach on this.

00:41:07.720 Where is the reach-out to the community leaders from the state in this particular one?

00:41:13.040 Where's the sit-down, the pal-pal that would come along as if they were, you know, Pakistani organizations, angry as they did in there? 0.99

00:41:21.940 I don't see any of that.

00:41:22.880 What I do see straight away is the heavy-handedness of the police going in on this particular issue

00:41:28.880 when it's the reverse of what we're seeing in California.

00:41:32.040 I mean, the appropriate response would be then say, yep, we appreciate this is something that a foreign community has done to your community. 1.00

00:41:39.880 And so what we're going to do is we're going to make mandatory everyone in that foreign community, one, learn English,

00:41:44.360 and two, sit down and explain to them how they have to behave. 0.96

00:41:48.360 We're going to make sure that they have to do, like, a three-week course or something.

00:41:51.940 You know, everyone in this community has to sit down, learn English, do this three-week course, and then we'll see.

00:41:56.100 Because what that shows is it is the majority community dictating to the minority community how they have to live to live alongside them 0.93

00:42:04.880 so that people can feel, oh, no, we are the people in control of this.

00:42:08.740 We are going to get this overall underpinning justice of, you know, we will be the ones taken care of by our own country, right?

00:42:17.420 And instead, like you're saying, in Britain it goes the other way.

00:42:21.060 It's always the other way.

00:42:22.680 No, no, not at all.

00:42:23.840 The minorities are trapped with kid gloves. 1.00

00:42:26.360 And the working classes get the water cannons. 0.96

00:42:29.960 Yeah.

00:42:30.100 What is the community?

00:42:35.560 Is it just a Roma community? 0.82

00:42:37.040 Is it Romanian?

00:42:37.800 So we can't argue this time it's about Islam.

00:42:40.100 No, no.

00:42:40.360 It's just about the nature of that community coming in.

00:42:42.840 So when they're talking about far-right, aren't they going to be arguing it's white to white?

00:42:46.580 Well, I mean, technically, yeah.

00:42:47.960 Yeah.

00:42:48.720 Well, it's just anti-foreign, isn't it?

00:42:50.440 Ah, so it's an extension of the argument.

00:42:53.040 It's about ethnicity and nationality.

00:42:54.440 Yeah.

00:42:54.720 Stephen, xenophobia is xenophobia, and we disavow xenophobia of all colours in all forms.

00:43:02.100 Yeah.

00:43:02.500 So, yeah, things got really, really hairy out there.

00:43:06.220 And what's more, from there, as I say, these were arrests over one day, six arrests on the second night in Balamina.

00:43:15.260 And so then, of course, you have the reaction to all of this from the state itself after the carnage is all done with.

00:43:22.660 So this was, yes, the police in Northern Ireland and, if I could get the mouth, there we go.

00:43:28.820 I'll just play 20 seconds.

00:43:30.100 Last night saw significant...

00:43:31.860 Just turn it up, Samson, please.

00:43:33.140 ...in Balamina.

00:43:35.240 This violence was clearly racially motivated and targeted at our minority ethnic community and the police.

00:43:42.000 It was racist, thuggery, pure and simply, and any attempt to justify or explain it as something else is misplaced.

00:43:49.320 Right. So, we're not going to listen to you.

00:43:53.140 You are the bad people and the minorities of whom some of the, again, a very small community, 1.00

00:43:59.380 and yet two of them are now accused of being rapists,

00:44:02.520 they're the ones we're going to protect in the face of their predation on you.

00:44:07.400 Unbelievable. Completely the wrong way to calm all this down.

00:44:10.540 No wonder people are pissed off.

00:44:12.220 Again, this is the state setting its face against you.

00:44:14.900 And the police federation for Northern Ireland said that the attack on police officers was totally mindless,

00:44:22.200 unacceptable and feral. Mindless.

00:44:25.540 Totally divorcing this from any sense of context.

00:44:29.080 Yeah, as if something didn't happen.

00:44:30.620 Yes.

00:44:31.080 I mean, this is some bland, boring, dull character sitting in the PR department of the police saying,

00:44:37.720 here is the template that I'm just going to put in for absolutely everything, to be honest.

00:44:43.380 And I wouldn't care which political party individual it was, you know, I'm going to say the same.

00:44:48.440 Yeah.

00:44:48.560 Yeah. And also, it comes down to that thing that, okay, well, yes, so there have been these two rapes,

00:44:55.020 and they're attempted rapes, and they're absolutely terrible.

00:44:58.320 And the people of this town should never have had to contemplate that thing happening in the first place.

00:45:03.920 And it wouldn't have happened were it not for some engineering of forcing minority groups. 1.00

00:45:10.720 Government policy.

00:45:11.480 Yeah, government policy.

00:45:12.280 This is a product of government policy.

00:45:13.680 And it also goes totally in line with things like this. Asylum accommodation costs rise to 400 million in Northern Ireland.

00:45:20.620 You've got to pay for the privilege.

00:45:21.820 All these things fuse together to create this tension that will eventually boil over.

00:45:28.040 When you throw so, when the state throws so much antagonistic energies, all of their dedicated energies,

00:45:36.040 towards making Ireland a horrible place for the Irish.

00:45:41.520 You mean diverse? 0.54

00:45:42.020 Yeah, diverse.

00:45:43.680 For the Irish, these things are going to happen.

00:45:47.600 Yeah.

00:45:47.920 And the authorities have no way of diffusing the tension, because they refuse to admit to a single mistake.

00:45:55.600 They refuse to identify the fact that diversity is a weakness. It brings crime and distrust wherever it is.

00:46:03.480 They refuse to discipline the community that is responsible for the attack.

00:46:06.300 Yes.

00:46:06.840 And they're instead trying to discipline the Irish, Northern Irish community.

00:46:10.120 I couldn't agree more with that.

00:46:11.500 It's unacceptable.

00:46:13.480 It's victim-blaming once more.

00:46:15.860 It is, yeah. It's victim-blaming.

00:46:17.280 It is.

00:46:17.840 I found this one sensible opinion amongst it all, though, from a Timothy Gaston. 0.98

00:46:23.320 Maybe the Irish people aren't the problem when a bunch of Romanian kids try to rape an Irish girl. 1.00

00:46:28.460 Yeah. 0.99

00:46:28.900 Yeah, maybe.

00:46:29.420 It says,

00:46:30.100 Some in the House may not want to hear it, but you cannot say that you have not been warned.

00:46:35.020 There is a deep concern in parts of Ballymina about the significant demographic change in recent years, particularly due to the resettlement of Roma families, with their often having arrived in large numbers from the Republic of Ireland.

00:46:49.600 And so, yes, it's a tale that we just see happening in more and more remote places now.

00:46:58.020 And ultimately, as I say, even though Northern Ireland has been relatively protected from this for quite a long time, it is coming.

00:47:06.580 There will be more Ballyminas, and there seems no sign on the horizon, really, that the British state is going to pivot and do address any of the concerns that led to this in the first place. 0.99

00:47:19.540 Yeah, and I think there's also another attack line that the people of Ballymina and people of towns across the country, and here they're fairly relatively contained in a certain area.

00:47:30.220 So what needs to happen is to be able to find out who owns the houses.

00:47:33.840 It's quite easy to find that out in the land registry.

00:47:37.440 And if it's a company that owns the houses, like Serco or whoever the Irish equivalent is that's dealing with it, find out who owns that house and target them. 0.72

00:47:45.720 Target them with peaceful demonstrations.

00:47:48.020 Target them with emails.

00:47:49.920 Find out who the individuals in those companies are.

00:47:52.420 Find out what the shareholders are and make complaints to each of them, all of them lawfully.

00:47:56.900 I'm not saying in any way, shape or form.

00:47:58.800 And just make sure, MI5, as you're listening to this, I am not advocating any violence at all,

00:48:03.580 because I know you want to arrest us in any way you can.

00:48:06.000 So just do so and find a way, another way of campaigning, because that's exactly how the left would do it.

00:48:12.080 Yes.

00:48:12.440 And it's about time we did as well.

00:48:13.840 I would just draw also a thread between your last segment as well, Carl, and say about when you look at these people from California, right,

00:48:21.660 the Mexicans who are basically in open rebellion, even there you'd think, wow, just screaming rebellion from California, from inside America itself. 0.86

00:48:30.200 That sounds like a, that's a danger, that's a ballsy move, right?

00:48:33.340 No, it's not.

00:48:33.880 I wouldn't think of doing it.

00:48:34.800 No, but they do, because they actually feel that the state of California protects them.

00:48:41.300 Well, Newsom took ownership of it.

00:48:42.780 Right, he did.

00:48:43.340 Trump represents, finally, a modern liberal, or not liberal, but a modern state that is actually working in the interests of the majority people for the first time in decades.

00:48:54.940 Exactly.

00:48:55.720 Whereas in this case, it's the total inversion of that paradigm.

00:48:59.640 This is the people who do actually have a right to the land, bravely standing up to their own government.

00:49:06.840 Well, I was about to raise that point.

00:49:08.180 Here we have a two-tier approach by the states, both in terms of the way that we defend or oppose the opposition here.

00:49:16.940 In California, they're defending those who are taking over the land and saying it's their own or indeed belonging to Mexico.

00:49:24.820 But in Ballymina, they're attacking the people who belong to land, who live there, for those who are coming in to take it over. 0.84

00:49:32.760 And so what we've got here is, the question is, what is in the sense, what's in the brains of these individuals?

00:49:38.080 What is in their minds that they think that there's no difference between this, that we can't see it, that we can't see the two-tier justice?

00:49:45.800 Unfortunately, it's a much longer conversation than we just don't have to.

00:49:48.520 It's true.

00:49:49.100 So we'll have to come back to that another time.

00:49:51.540 All right, then.

00:49:52.060 Well, I'll just go through some of the comments here.

00:49:54.540 So it says, Doomscroller Diogenes says, I'm from Northern Ireland.

00:49:58.740 Migrants come here because housing is cheaper than Britain, but they have no idea what they're getting into. 1.00

00:50:04.200 We are a fragmented, volatile polity that they will never understand.

00:50:09.320 Just, Logan, sorry for missing you.

00:50:11.720 It says, also, Troubles in Ireland again.

00:50:13.700 At this point, just bring back the Empire already.

00:50:16.000 Honestly, the argument for the Empire has never been stronger, frankly.

00:50:20.200 Things were better when Britain was in charge of everything. 0.98

00:50:22.560 The argument for the Empire never went away.

00:50:24.780 No, I agree.

00:50:26.360 But the evidence of what happens when we're not there, well, I mean, it's not going great, is it?

00:50:30.940 No.

00:50:32.120 Sigil Stone 17 says, if you're going to keep quoting Lord of Rings, I did it once, okay, then you need to start showing the Daily Gondor on the show.

00:50:40.160 Daily Gondor is a great, great account.

00:50:42.360 I love the Daily Gondor. What are you talking about?

00:50:42.720 I shall bring more in Daily Gondor, yes.

00:50:46.200 All right.

00:50:47.540 Johan says, Carl, what's your interview with Justin Brearley?

00:50:49.740 It was fantastic, by the way.

00:50:50.740 If you want a moral lecture from the Bible, search Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God on YouTube.

00:50:54.640 I really want it when I'm in the church.

00:50:56.260 If I have to go to a church, I don't want some wishy-washy, floppy, like, modern,

00:51:00.780 oh, Jesus, just wanted a sword to get along.

00:51:02.560 No, I want someone being like, right, you're all sinners, and this is why.

00:51:06.240 Sigil Stone also says, Luke, are you a member of the Sanford Police?

00:51:09.140 Handle those gypsies and crusty jugglers for the greater good. 1.00

00:51:12.500 Anyway.

00:51:14.180 That's the greater good.

00:51:15.540 You've got, like, all the square bits on there.

00:51:17.560 All right.

00:51:18.060 I'm going to crack on with this.

00:51:19.820 Yep.

00:51:20.240 Now, we're going to do it one more time, because The Death of Man is brilliant.

00:51:23.260 I've been watching it.

00:51:24.040 It's absolutely superb, and I think anybody who's not watched it so far,

00:51:27.780 it needs to get out there straight away, put your hand in pocket,

00:51:30.920 and do and see where we're all going.

00:51:33.500 Because there's a link between all our three titles,

00:51:35.540 and actually there's been a link to the last four or five that we've seen on there.

00:51:39.420 And that comes down to philosophy, the concepts of ourselves as individuals,

00:51:43.100 and where we're going in the future.

00:51:44.720 And Carlos particularly put that out in The Death of Man,

00:51:47.420 and I recommend it to you.

00:51:50.140 Going on here, we're going to now talk about reform.

00:51:54.160 I didn't want to talk about reform.

00:51:55.400 We've done a lot of it over the past week or so.

00:51:58.400 I've been told on NX,

00:52:00.700 you're now a totally anti-Faraj, anti-reform man.

00:52:04.180 But they are the gift that keeps on giving at the moment.

00:52:07.940 You know, here is the opportunity of a political party that...

00:52:12.040 On the right.

00:52:12.800 On the right. 0.99

00:52:13.200 Sucks up the entire right. 0.99

00:52:14.580 Sucks up the whole right. 0.99

00:52:16.380 Gives us the opportunity to take out the uni party. 0.98

00:52:19.000 Gives us the chance to think,

00:52:20.200 yes, we finally got change.

00:52:21.840 And people are not only flocking to them as members,

00:52:25.040 helping them on the streets,

00:52:26.500 their voters are coming with them because they're sick and tired.

00:52:29.240 And there is an ideology about it.

00:52:31.360 We're strong on immigration.

00:52:32.880 We are concerned about the rise of Islam in this country. 1.00

00:52:36.280 We're spending far too much.

00:52:38.840 You know, we want to control, you know,

00:52:40.740 all of these...

00:52:41.720 All completely reasonable things.

00:52:43.280 All the people want.

00:52:44.060 Reasonable things.

00:52:44.620 And that's what they say.

00:52:45.960 And then they appoint a new chairman,

00:52:49.380 which I said is not really a chairman.

00:52:50.840 I think he's the head of membership.

00:52:51.880 And that is Dr. David Bull,

00:52:54.640 who, you know,

00:52:55.440 I kind of pass him every now and again

00:52:57.100 when I'm going on to the talk TV thing on a weekend.

00:53:01.160 You know, generally, you know...

00:53:02.700 He's a lovely chap.

00:53:03.640 Lovely, affable guy.

00:53:05.280 But he's named as the new chairman.

00:53:07.520 And which I think is funny in the first instance, isn't it?

00:53:09.640 When Nigel Farage says,

00:53:11.020 I'm going to announce a new chairman

00:53:12.140 and Zia Youssef is going off to look after Doge.

00:53:15.740 But he'll also look after all the fundraising

00:53:18.420 and the job of the chairman.

00:53:21.460 He's also going to deal with all the administration

00:53:24.740 and the head of the chairman.

00:53:26.200 He's dealing with the policy and the chairman.

00:53:28.100 And he'll be my limb.

00:53:29.680 Yeah, my right-hand man.

00:53:30.800 My right-hand man.

00:53:32.420 Shadow chairman.

00:53:33.720 Job of the chairman, isn't it?

00:53:35.000 So, anyway, David Ball has just announced

00:53:37.220 that all he's going to do is wander around the country

00:53:39.460 just talking to members.

00:53:41.680 I mean, someone's got to do it, I suppose.

00:53:43.580 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:53:44.580 That's the new definition of chairman

00:53:46.100 for all political parties is the head of membership.

00:53:48.620 I've heard the members aren't happy, so...

00:53:50.020 No, no.

00:53:51.060 Someone needs to.

00:53:52.380 No, he's hugely excited by this, apparently.

00:53:55.260 Okay.

00:53:56.300 And he says,

00:53:57.220 I did realise the only way he could do it

00:53:59.340 was to resign and then come back, he jokes.

00:54:01.040 So, he's doing another joke about resigning

00:54:03.780 and coming back.

00:54:05.280 So, he's announced.

00:54:06.480 But amongst his first interviews,

00:54:08.920 I think this is where we're now beginning to see

00:54:11.600 the real heart of the leadership,

00:54:14.220 or at least the top-tier individuals within reform.

00:54:17.820 Well, just a quick thing here before we move on.

00:54:20.040 Like, everyone was like,

00:54:20.840 oh, who's the new chairman going to be?

00:54:23.180 It's like, look, there are about three people

00:54:25.040 that Nigel has to choose from at this point.

00:54:26.840 Yeah.

00:54:27.180 You know, it's going to be, like,

00:54:28.240 Lee Anderson, Richard Tice, David Bull,

00:54:31.520 or Aaron Banks, right?

00:54:32.720 Exactly.

00:54:32.820 There's, like, he's got no one else around him.

00:54:35.000 There's no other talent.

00:54:35.840 There's no one loyal to him.

00:54:37.080 He has carved everyone else off.

00:54:39.160 Yeah.

00:54:39.560 So, it's like, okay, we can just roll a dice,

00:54:41.420 you know, you're going to pick someone.

00:54:42.640 Anyway, sorry.

00:54:43.080 So, yeah, no, or maybe it's the Lebanese millionaire

00:54:46.420 that we'll come to.

00:54:47.400 Oh, well, maybe, yeah.

00:54:48.660 You know, that maybe wouldn't have sent off

00:54:50.580 the right pictures.

00:54:51.360 But, knowing Nigel, what he's done,

00:54:53.540 he's got Zia, who's the Muslim, 1.00

00:54:55.400 and David, who's the gay person.

00:54:57.280 So, now we've got the LGBT and Islam,

00:54:59.940 and I'm neither racist nor homophobic.

00:55:03.160 Well, I've got it.

00:55:04.320 They'll never accuse you again.

00:55:05.900 No, they won't.

00:55:06.640 That addresses all of my concerns.

00:55:08.460 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:09.820 I don't care about policy. 1.00

00:55:11.620 Stupid. 1.00

00:55:12.080 It just works for the BBC. 1.00

00:55:14.080 It works for ITV.

00:55:15.960 It works for Sky.

00:55:17.240 So, therefore, everything's good in the world.

00:55:18.900 Finally, the libs will leave me alone. 1.00

00:55:20.740 Oh, shut up, no. 0.99

00:55:21.580 I might be able to go to Hawke's Moor 1.00

00:55:24.200 and have a steak without being kicked out.

00:55:26.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:27.220 That's it.

00:55:27.940 Gosh.

00:55:28.180 Yeah, I'm not those dirty people. 0.64

00:55:30.220 It's so supine. 1.00

00:55:31.680 It's so pathetic. 1.00

00:55:32.620 So, here we go. 1.00

00:55:34.140 Oh, hang on.

00:55:34.880 Where is the...

00:55:35.300 No, this is the first point.

00:55:36.720 Is there...

00:55:37.480 Maybe it's come down there.

00:55:39.340 We've got through what he's supposed to have said.

00:55:43.960 Hours after he's come,

00:55:44.780 I think it's just flipped out,

00:55:45.840 but I'll go back to it then,

00:55:47.000 is that David Bull then turns around

00:55:50.280 in his first interview,

00:55:51.700 and I'm certain when we were putting this,

00:55:53.540 you had it on the video on there,

00:55:55.880 so I don't know if it was one of the other ones

00:55:57.120 we've got it in the...

00:55:57.600 Oh, is it the lifeblood of Britain?

00:55:59.100 Yeah.

00:55:59.720 I think this is the one it is.

00:56:01.900 I must have gotten the wrong way around here.

00:56:04.820 David Bull turns around and says

00:56:06.620 that immigration is the lifeblood of the country.

00:56:10.500 I mean, I just want to listen to this.

00:56:12.900 Are there any other items of clothing

00:56:14.520 that you think are a threat to public safety?

00:56:16.640 So, I think that the key for me about this

00:56:19.440 is it's about integrating into this country.

00:56:22.220 Immigration is the lifeblood of this country.

00:56:24.120 It always has been.

00:56:25.300 But also, if you come to this country, 0.99

00:56:27.180 you have to adopt our culture, our system.

00:56:30.100 Sounds like David Cameron.

00:56:31.540 Yes.

00:56:31.880 Yes.

00:56:32.140 Like, oh my God.

00:56:32.920 Far from...

00:56:34.140 I tweeted out yesterday in reaction to this,

00:56:36.200 far from being the lifeblood of the country,

00:56:38.880 it's actually put the country on life support.

00:56:41.120 It's poisonous.

00:56:42.040 That is a very good look.

00:56:42.780 Yeah, it's killing our country.

00:56:44.300 It is.

00:56:44.960 But even the idea that it's the lifeblood,

00:56:47.480 to me, is like simply saying that

00:56:49.020 the blood of immigrants has been running 1.00

00:56:50.940 all the way through the veins of the United Kingdom,

00:56:54.600 of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

00:56:56.600 Also, we die without them.

00:56:57.860 And that's it.

00:56:58.400 We die without it.

00:56:59.420 You know, since the days of Alfred and Aethelstan,

00:57:01.580 even before that, before the idea.

00:57:03.720 Yes.

00:57:04.520 No one will argue that as the rocks were moving apart from Europe

00:57:07.580 and coming back again,

00:57:08.560 a few Celts came over from the steppes of the Middle East

00:57:12.240 and crossed over and lived.

00:57:13.300 How many thousands of years back?

00:57:14.980 That's about 12,000 or 14,000.

00:57:17.100 Exactly.

00:57:17.520 Then we join up again.

00:57:18.660 And of course, then we had Celts and then the Brits 1.00

00:57:20.620 and the Romans came over here.

00:57:22.600 And, you know, all of what...

00:57:23.580 2,000 years ago.

00:57:25.040 And there was only about 5,000 of them.

00:57:26.840 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:27.040 And they just subjugated us.

00:57:28.420 That's fine to be slaves.

00:57:29.620 Well, to be fair,

00:57:30.160 if he wants to compare immigration to conquest,

00:57:33.380 then...

00:57:33.940 I mean, yeah.

00:57:34.740 It's fine, but...

00:57:35.840 But then what's the argument with the Romans 0.71

00:57:37.240 and, of course, the Mexicans losing a war in California?

00:57:40.960 I mean, we've done genetic testing in Britain.

00:57:44.340 There's just been no significant genetic impact

00:57:47.600 on the British people

00:57:49.140 since the Anglo-Saxon migrations.

00:57:51.280 Yeah.

00:57:51.600 The big change was around...

00:57:52.920 1,000?

00:57:53.440 5,000, yeah.

00:57:53.980 52 to 55.

00:57:55.660 And even that was relatively small.

00:57:57.300 It was tailing off until Blair decided

00:57:59.460 that the whole country was going to explode

00:58:01.520 with 1.3 million asylum applicants

00:58:03.540 in one year, in the year 2000.

00:58:06.500 And so to him to argue

00:58:08.300 that from the years of Aethelstan onwards,

00:58:11.060 you know, someone's got 1066 there,

00:58:13.280 and I'd go a bit further back than that,

00:58:15.060 if you wouldn't mind,

00:58:15.940 to 1945, and I'd go a little bit later,

00:58:18.820 is that, you know,

00:58:19.740 there's no way that one can argue

00:58:21.140 that immigration... 0.97

00:58:21.980 We have some good points.

00:58:22.900 Huguenots.

00:58:23.460 It was mostly emigration.

00:58:24.780 Yeah.

00:58:25.100 Huguenots over...

00:58:26.040 Mostly it's Britons emigrating 1.00

00:58:28.040 to the rest of the world.

00:58:29.120 20,000 Huguenots.

00:58:30.360 They did contribute, you know, significantly...

00:58:31.680 20,000 Huguenots.

00:58:32.740 Yeah, but over 20...

00:58:33.880 20,000...

00:58:34.200 50,000 over 20 years,

00:58:35.340 or something like that.

00:58:35.840 20,000 French Protestants.

00:58:37.620 Yeah.

00:58:37.740 Oh, right, okay.

00:58:38.560 So you cannot argue

00:58:40.100 that they are the lifeblood of this country.

00:58:42.820 You can argue that they're important

00:58:44.540 at the moment,

00:58:45.660 that they're vital in certain areas,

00:58:47.080 unfortunately,

00:58:47.580 because we've had large-scale amigretion,

00:58:49.340 but the argument that they're a lifeblood

00:58:51.200 is wrong,

00:58:51.620 because if they're all left,

00:58:52.780 or they're all stopped,

00:58:54.320 would this country die?

00:58:55.400 No, we'd be fine.

00:58:56.400 No.

00:58:56.680 I think things would get better.

00:58:57.760 And in that one line, 0.96

00:58:59.220 it just shows a total ignorance 0.79

00:59:01.460 that is akin to... 0.63

00:59:03.020 It shows no understanding

00:59:04.440 of why the Tories are essentially

00:59:06.460 in existential death mode.

00:59:09.320 Yeah, 100%.

00:59:10.440 And it also misunderstands the whole point

00:59:12.720 that there is a massive argument

00:59:14.120 and discussion going in this country

00:59:15.620 between people who've come here

00:59:16.980 for several generations,

00:59:18.840 that immigration is a discussion

00:59:20.620 on most tables about it,

00:59:22.860 and all across the workforce,

00:59:24.260 not about race,

00:59:25.200 or to a certain extent,

00:59:26.960 religion is coming into that

00:59:28.080 on the creed,

00:59:29.140 but it's all about numbers

00:59:30.860 and implications

00:59:32.220 and impacts on this nation.

00:59:34.260 So to turn around and say

00:59:35.200 it's racist about that

00:59:36.760 is a nonsense.

00:59:37.840 Only those who are extreme

00:59:39.060 would argue that.

00:59:40.260 It doesn't even matter.

00:59:41.600 Like, that's not the question.

00:59:42.720 I mean, notice he points out,

00:59:44.300 well, it's about integration.

00:59:45.220 Okay, that ship's sailed.

00:59:46.780 The integration ship has sailed. 0.83

00:59:48.940 Now in London,

00:59:49.640 we're getting signs up in Urdu

00:59:51.620 or whatever.

00:59:51.960 There's nothing left to integrate.

00:59:53.160 Bengali.

00:59:53.700 Yeah, exactly.

00:59:54.100 Yeah, it's over.

00:59:55.860 The integration argument is over.

00:59:57.520 Sorry.

00:59:58.140 It's okay, but I'm just saying

00:59:59.300 who is David Bull

01:00:00.640 and what is he representing?

01:00:02.160 And he then goes on

01:00:03.220 to double down on this.

01:00:05.020 You know, having got the opportunity

01:00:06.460 to say it early on,

01:00:07.980 he then doubles down

01:00:08.980 on GB News

01:00:10.180 later on in the evening.

01:00:11.320 We are an island of immigrants. 1.00

01:00:13.940 Oh, shut up. 1.00

01:00:15.060 Right. 1.00

01:00:15.400 Now, I remember

01:00:17.020 that that was a Labour MPs

01:00:20.860 Home Secretary

01:00:22.480 under Blair

01:00:23.840 that first argued

01:00:25.320 that we're an island

01:00:26.180 of immigrants.

01:00:26.840 And that is palpably untrue.

01:00:29.500 I mean, it's one of the things

01:00:30.320 I've been working on

01:00:31.020 for a while,

01:00:31.820 potential book

01:00:32.360 that eventually

01:00:32.920 come out towards

01:00:33.620 the end of the year

01:00:34.480 that flags not only

01:00:36.040 the genetic code

01:00:37.360 through DNA,

01:00:38.460 but actually the historical numbers

01:00:40.440 coming into this country,

01:00:41.740 the emigration

01:00:42.420 that went on

01:00:43.540 and involved in that.

01:00:44.080 So this is palpably untrue.

01:00:46.920 The idea that we're

01:00:47.720 an island of immigrants 0.92

01:00:48.540 only started to become

01:00:49.900 conceptually true

01:00:51.060 is when we had large numbers

01:00:52.460 coming in after 55.

01:00:54.080 52 to 55

01:00:55.200 was the starting point.

01:00:56.980 And even then,

01:00:57.540 that was 1, 2%

01:00:59.040 of the population.

01:00:59.660 Absolutely.

01:01:00.320 So small.

01:01:02.000 Like, it really is

01:01:03.320 until the late 90s

01:01:04.340 where the numbers

01:01:04.840 start ramping up.

01:01:05.780 Well, see,

01:01:06.280 even this here,

01:01:07.080 this whole,

01:01:07.740 oh, you're an island

01:01:08.400 of immigrants,

01:01:09.740 therefore you must

01:01:10.720 have immigration.

01:01:11.700 It doesn't matter.

01:01:12.980 Regardless of what

01:01:14.060 the history is.

01:01:14.720 Because also it's like,

01:01:15.660 there's this idea that,

01:01:16.800 well, that's historically

01:01:17.700 who we've been,

01:01:18.820 so it must continue

01:01:19.920 even though it's not true.

01:01:21.240 And then it becomes,

01:01:22.480 well, you have to have it

01:01:23.720 to atone for the empire.

01:01:25.240 Okay, does Ireland

01:01:26.300 have to have it?

01:01:27.040 Does Sweden have to have it?

01:01:29.340 Ultimately,

01:01:30.360 it's all nonsense. 0.97

01:01:31.160 It's just nonsense, nonsense. 0.97

01:01:32.780 We want this to happen to you 0.98

01:01:34.520 and we will concoct

01:01:35.680 whatever irrational reason

01:01:38.240 we can, you know, muster.

01:01:40.040 Unless they keep moving

01:01:41.020 from reason to reason

01:01:41.900 when you're like,

01:01:42.320 that's not true.

01:01:42.740 That's not true.

01:01:43.180 Okay, I've got another one.

01:01:44.260 It's like, no, no, no.

01:01:44.840 Why are we having

01:01:45.440 this conversation?

01:01:46.380 You know, you just want

01:01:47.240 to take what's ours

01:01:48.000 for someone else.

01:01:48.900 You're not having it.

01:01:49.820 The answer's no.

01:01:50.440 Yeah, and what this issue

01:01:51.640 is showing is not only

01:01:52.640 just the discussions

01:01:53.760 of the background

01:01:54.360 of where it all comes from,

01:01:55.520 the philosophical

01:01:56.120 and practical issues

01:01:58.260 about why this is wrong,

01:02:00.440 but it's showing him

01:02:01.320 to be, as you say,

01:02:02.280 in one way,

01:02:03.100 very much a Labour person

01:02:04.460 with the island of immigrants,

01:02:06.220 one way a David Kammerite,

01:02:07.980 you know, with a life flood.

01:02:09.200 It's a Blairite.

01:02:09.560 And you're asking yourself,

01:02:10.820 who is this man?

01:02:11.640 I'll whip through a couple of these.

01:02:13.560 Nine-year-olds should be taught 0.96

01:02:14.680 what it means to be LGBT

01:02:15.880 in school.

01:02:16.420 So the argument on this

01:02:17.540 is he's posting the headlines,

01:02:18.960 so maybe he doesn't endorse this.

01:02:20.420 Maybe he's alerting people.

01:02:21.380 Okay, possibly.

01:02:22.100 But if you scroll down the list,

01:02:23.420 there's a thread here

01:02:25.780 that, you know,

01:02:27.780 like LGBT armed forces

01:02:29.480 ball in Manchester.

01:02:30.620 That's all right.

01:02:30.980 I mean, LGBT is a communist method 1.00

01:02:34.040 to try and create a constituency

01:02:35.620 that can attack

01:02:36.520 the majority heterosexual community,

01:02:39.020 expressly by the people

01:02:40.280 who designed the term LGBT. 0.81

01:02:42.320 Yeah, there I am,

01:02:43.380 David Cameron.

01:02:44.160 I'm proud to legacy

01:02:45.820 of LGBT rights.

01:02:47.640 Now, you know,

01:02:48.160 every one of us

01:02:48.940 would turn around and say

01:02:50.120 this is perfectly fine

01:02:51.260 to have the same rights

01:02:52.660 as an equal individual.

01:02:54.120 I've campaigned,

01:02:55.020 I've done exactly

01:02:55.560 the same sort of things,

01:02:56.600 but the ideology

01:02:57.920 of what it is,

01:02:59.220 particularly with the trans element

01:03:00.420 coming into this.

01:03:00.900 But even then,

01:03:01.560 I'm not even sure if I agree.

01:03:02.700 I'm not even sure

01:03:03.480 if I'm for gay marriage,

01:03:04.740 to be honest.

01:03:05.440 Well, but we can have the argument

01:03:06.700 that they're still human beings

01:03:08.120 and we don't have an issue

01:03:09.520 with them being together.

01:03:10.220 Sure, sure.

01:03:10.560 I'm not suggesting,

01:03:11.340 you know,

01:03:11.580 any excuse or anything.

01:03:12.660 But, you know,

01:03:13.540 there are certain institutions

01:03:14.700 that are important

01:03:16.220 for reasons that are,

01:03:18.540 frankly,

01:03:18.860 not for the people

01:03:19.660 involved in them, right?

01:03:20.740 Like, marriage is there

01:03:21.580 for children.

01:03:22.740 It's important for the children.

01:03:24.220 So for, you know,

01:03:25.020 to be like,

01:03:25.400 oh, well, you know, 0.90

01:03:26.220 gay people want to get married,

01:03:27.200 it's like, 0.98

01:03:27.380 yeah, but they can't have children. 0.83

01:03:28.380 It's not really for them,

01:03:29.720 you know?

01:03:30.140 And I'm not saying

01:03:30.640 anything should happen to them

01:03:31.560 or anything like that,

01:03:32.580 but I'm not saying

01:03:33.700 I'm even committed to this,

01:03:34.660 but there's an argument

01:03:35.840 to be had there

01:03:36.740 and discussion to be had

01:03:37.920 about it being

01:03:38.500 not just for you,

01:03:40.180 it's for others.

01:03:40.800 Yeah, and I'm on the view

01:03:42.140 that obviously with children,

01:03:43.880 you know,

01:03:44.100 I've seen my own children,

01:03:44.980 I don't think much of anything

01:03:46.260 to talk about sex

01:03:47.240 or sexuality

01:03:47.980 should really be taught

01:03:49.300 about them

01:03:49.740 at primary school level.

01:03:51.820 I'm perfectly happy

01:03:52.520 to bring in sex education

01:03:53.860 when they're slightly older,

01:03:55.380 particularly as,

01:03:55.940 you know,

01:03:56.240 my daughter,

01:03:56.960 you know,

01:03:57.220 12 came as shocked

01:03:58.380 when the natural bodily functions

01:04:00.420 changed for her

01:04:01.400 and it's like,

01:04:01.960 all of that,

01:04:02.640 you then start to understand

01:04:04.140 they're becoming adults

01:04:05.020 rather than the little people

01:04:06.620 that they are.

01:04:07.100 I don't want indoctrination

01:04:08.440 of children

01:04:09.480 and yet,

01:04:10.360 David seems to be

01:04:11.440 happy to have

01:04:12.580 this level

01:04:13.160 of questioning coming in

01:04:14.560 and others

01:04:14.960 have pointed out

01:04:16.340 exactly what he is

01:04:17.540 on this.

01:04:19.220 Sex education, 0.90

01:04:20.700 we need Twitter silence,

01:04:21.620 all of this,

01:04:22.180 German's chancellor

01:04:22.960 has made a brave,

01:04:23.960 I found that one fascinating,

01:04:26.320 on refugees,

01:04:27.100 Chernin's chancellor

01:04:27.860 is brave,

01:04:28.600 decisive and right.

01:04:29.920 Oh right,

01:04:30.340 so Merkel

01:04:31.140 bringing in millions

01:04:32.540 of foreigners 0.92

01:04:33.480 to be flung 0.65

01:04:34.960 on the Germans,

01:04:35.820 that's good.

01:04:36.140 I mean look at this,

01:04:37.320 inclusive sex ed

01:04:38.440 is important

01:04:39.080 and must be compulsory,

01:04:40.280 I don't agree with that

01:04:41.140 at all.

01:04:42.700 I'm actually getting

01:04:43.640 to the point

01:04:43.960 where I don't really want

01:04:44.720 sex education in schools,

01:04:46.220 that's I think

01:04:46.860 the parent's responsibility

01:04:47.920 frankly,

01:04:48.920 and I don't really trust

01:04:49.840 some lefty teacher

01:04:51.040 not to try and pervert

01:04:52.260 my children.

01:04:52.960 Well this is the element

01:04:53.640 about trust in there

01:04:54.640 and how we know

01:04:55.300 and whether we should

01:04:55.900 have rights as parents

01:04:56.720 to at least understand

01:04:57.760 what the curriculum is

01:04:58.800 and how far they're

01:04:59.560 going on that.

01:05:00.640 Sorry,

01:05:01.160 just one blow,

01:05:01.920 we need Twitter 0.99

01:05:02.420 to silence LGBT hate. 0.77

01:05:04.360 Yes. 0.58

01:05:04.800 Oh right,

01:05:05.140 so we're just open

01:05:05.840 for censorship now.

01:05:07.020 Homophobia, 0.52

01:05:07.660 biphobia and transphobia

01:05:08.680 of no place online

01:05:09.500 says a radical leftist.

01:05:11.920 That's what a radical leftist

01:05:13.000 says.

01:05:13.100 Exactly.

01:05:14.000 So what we have here

01:05:15.340 in Dr. David Bull

01:05:16.940 is someone who's now

01:05:17.600 the chairman of reform

01:05:19.140 who's pretty much

01:05:21.100 advocating the opposite

01:05:22.180 of what is true

01:05:22.940 about immigration

01:05:24.200 and cultures

01:05:25.240 in this country.

01:05:26.940 Radical leftist ideology

01:05:29.280 on all the others

01:05:30.140 and supporting

01:05:30.880 Merkel's monumental

01:05:32.040 madness

01:05:32.600 of mass immigration 0.83

01:05:34.720 into Germany.

01:05:36.000 This is crazy.

01:05:37.500 So you now have that

01:05:38.760 and they turn around

01:05:39.540 to us and say

01:05:40.060 you're just trying

01:05:40.700 to bring reform down.

01:05:42.520 You're just criticising

01:05:43.500 reform for reform's sake.

01:05:44.880 No,

01:05:45.380 I'm criticising the individuals

01:05:46.660 at the charge

01:05:47.480 who are supposed to

01:05:48.520 advocate your policies

01:05:49.500 and if this is what

01:05:50.260 they believe in

01:05:51.080 where's the trust?

01:05:52.940 This is the total destruction

01:05:54.040 of reform's credibility

01:05:55.300 as a right-wing party.

01:05:57.500 This is not right-wing.

01:05:59.200 This is not conservative.

01:06:00.720 This is not something

01:06:01.500 I could ever vote for.

01:06:03.320 This is everything

01:06:04.320 that drove us away

01:06:05.500 from the conventional party.

01:06:07.380 This is why the conservatives

01:06:08.500 are dying as you pointed out. 0.94

01:06:09.740 This is why Labour are awful.

01:06:11.140 This is why the Lib Dems 0.85

01:06:11.980 are irrelevant.

01:06:12.660 If you want to be

01:06:13.180 exactly the same as Labour,

01:06:14.480 Lib Dems Green

01:06:15.500 and the conservatives,

01:06:17.440 do this and join them.

01:06:19.100 You know,

01:06:19.760 be that party

01:06:20.680 but don't be something

01:06:21.600 that the people are crying out

01:06:22.680 for something totally different.

01:06:24.500 And I would say,

01:06:25.140 okay,

01:06:26.020 let's be rational.

01:06:27.140 this is David.

01:06:28.020 He's just been brought in

01:06:28.960 last minute.

01:06:29.940 You know,

01:06:30.600 he's only,

01:06:31.180 as you say,

01:06:31.700 Carl,

01:06:31.880 one of the few individuals

01:06:33.080 that could possibly be used

01:06:35.940 in that role.

01:06:37.100 Sorry,

01:06:37.680 you know,

01:06:38.260 has his own independent mind

01:06:39.640 to be able to undertake

01:06:40.840 the functions

01:06:41.760 of being a membership

01:06:42.700 committee chairman.

01:06:45.040 So,

01:06:45.740 is it just him?

01:06:48.060 And then you have this

01:06:48.920 from Nigel.

01:06:51.220 The weakening.

01:06:52.440 How would you define

01:06:53.180 a Welsh person?

01:06:54.820 Someone who's lived there

01:06:55.440 for five to ten years.

01:06:56.360 Can we listen to this?

01:06:57.220 Because this is actually,

01:06:58.020 he's being very slippery in this.

01:07:04.120 You say that you would like

01:07:05.880 to give priority

01:07:06.640 to people from Wales

01:07:08.560 for housing.

01:07:10.720 How would you define

01:07:12.120 a Welsh person?

01:07:15.140 Well,

01:07:15.540 it's a very fair question

01:07:16.400 from your channel.

01:07:17.820 We hadn't proposed

01:07:18.900 the Welsh language test.

01:07:21.100 No,

01:07:21.380 look,

01:07:21.580 it's got to be somebody

01:07:22.220 who's lived

01:07:22.940 and is settled

01:07:24.240 in Wales,

01:07:25.680 has paid taxes

01:07:26.580 and obeyed the law.

01:07:27.900 And if someone's done

01:07:29.040 that for a five 0.89

01:07:29.640 or ten year period,

01:07:30.920 then I think

01:07:31.180 they've every right

01:07:31.760 to say that they're

01:07:32.700 fully part of

01:07:33.740 the Welsh community.

01:07:35.540 So,

01:07:35.960 there are a couple

01:07:36.380 of things on this,

01:07:37.020 right?

01:07:37.600 She didn't ask

01:07:38.300 what does it take

01:07:39.000 to be a part

01:07:39.460 of the Welsh community.

01:07:40.820 No.

01:07:41.000 You know,

01:07:41.220 like your dog

01:07:41.880 will be part

01:07:42.300 of the Welsh community.

01:07:43.240 That doesn't make

01:07:43.620 you look Welsh,

01:07:44.400 right?

01:07:44.940 So,

01:07:45.200 he's been slippery there.

01:07:46.600 But really,

01:07:47.240 what she's saying is,

01:07:48.180 okay,

01:07:48.360 well,

01:07:48.500 what is a Welshman?

01:07:49.580 How do you define them?

01:07:50.980 And Farage is just,

01:07:52.860 well,

01:07:53.120 if they've lived there

01:07:53.700 five,

01:07:54.280 ten years,

01:07:54.900 haven't,

01:07:55.200 you know,

01:07:55.500 they've followed the law,

01:07:56.220 so no criminal record

01:07:57.540 and paid taxes.

01:07:58.620 So,

01:07:58.940 if you're disabled,

01:08:00.540 you don't have a job,

01:08:01.760 you're not Welsh.

01:08:03.260 If you committed a crime,

01:08:04.920 if you've,

01:08:05.280 you know,

01:08:05.580 tax fraud or something,

01:08:06.880 you're not Welsh.

01:08:07.740 Or if you leave Wales

01:08:09.200 for a substantive period

01:08:10.420 of time,

01:08:10.820 you're no longer Welsh. 0.98

01:08:11.800 Welsh can be criminals too. 0.97

01:08:13.740 But, 0.99

01:08:13.900 like,

01:08:14.440 if you,

01:08:14.920 oh yeah,

01:08:15.400 like,

01:08:15.900 that's right.

01:08:16.420 If you commit a crime,

01:08:17.920 you cease to be Welsh.

01:08:18.860 Yeah,

01:08:19.200 but you move to England

01:08:20.640 for ten years for work

01:08:22.480 or something,

01:08:22.800 you're not Welsh anymore, 1.00

01:08:23.620 you can't come back,

01:08:24.320 sorry.

01:08:24.540 I'm therefore Welsh

01:08:26.000 because I spent three years

01:08:27.100 at university in Aberystwyth

01:08:28.920 and I lived in Colwyn Bay

01:08:30.200 and Clandidna for three years.

01:08:31.840 They weren't joined together,

01:08:32.840 it was three years and three years.

01:08:33.540 You're as Welsh as they can. 1.00

01:08:34.740 Therefore,

01:08:35.180 I am Welsh.

01:08:38.580 It's,

01:08:38.820 it's,

01:08:39.040 it's nonsense.

01:08:40.980 Posterous.

01:08:41.500 My,

01:08:41.740 my friend living in Japan

01:08:43.080 for five years

01:08:43.960 who's paid taxes

01:08:44.800 has not just become Japanese.

01:08:46.120 Yeah,

01:08:46.280 you know,

01:08:46.620 like,

01:08:46.920 he's absolutely Japanese.

01:08:48.340 But suddenly you're going to define that.

01:08:49.700 How would you define an English person?

01:08:51.660 Someone who's lived there

01:08:52.340 for five to ten years.

01:08:53.420 Exactly.

01:08:53.640 How would you define someone

01:08:54.420 who's a Scots person?

01:08:55.620 Someone who's lived there

01:08:56.500 for five to ten years.

01:08:57.520 The Boris wave.

01:08:58.240 Yeah.

01:08:58.480 English.

01:08:59.180 That's right.

01:08:59.700 And so this,

01:09:00.260 this means that basically

01:09:01.260 there are no English expats in Spain,

01:09:03.520 right?

01:09:04.100 No,

01:09:04.280 no,

01:09:04.360 they're all Spanish now.

01:09:05.100 That's right.

01:09:05.560 They're all Spanish.

01:09:06.100 They're not expats.

01:09:06.800 They're Spanish as the day is long. 0.53

01:09:09.660 And the answer,

01:09:10.620 of course,

01:09:10.920 is how do you define a Welsh person?

01:09:12.320 Someone with Welsh ancestry

01:09:13.360 is one of Welsh people.

01:09:14.220 Yeah,

01:09:14.240 and not even here.

01:09:15.300 He's just said

01:09:15.900 someone who's lived there

01:09:16.920 for five to ten years.

01:09:18.180 If you're an illegal asylum seeker

01:09:19.780 who's lived there

01:09:20.420 for five to ten years

01:09:21.500 and never been caught,

01:09:22.560 if you don't have

01:09:23.240 indefinite leave to remain

01:09:24.380 and a British passport,

01:09:25.620 you are now Welsh as well. 0.54

01:09:27.320 This shows the nonsense

01:09:29.140 of policy for Nigel Farage, 0.87

01:09:31.660 his lack of intellectual capability

01:09:33.240 being able to understand it,

01:09:34.360 how he thinks he can get away

01:09:35.580 with just bonhomie,

01:09:36.700 ha ha,

01:09:37.060 we didn't do the Welsh language test,

01:09:39.520 did we?

01:09:40.020 You don't need an English test

01:09:41.220 to be in England either,

01:09:42.180 by the way,

01:09:42.740 you know,

01:09:43.000 that's it.

01:09:44.000 It is showing him

01:09:45.120 for the weaknesses

01:09:46.220 in intellectual capability

01:09:48.180 of running the argument

01:09:49.680 for pro-patriotic political party.

01:09:53.100 But the problem is

01:09:53.600 this is Sadiq Khan's definition

01:09:55.560 of what a Londoner is.

01:09:57.040 Yes,

01:09:57.360 yes.

01:09:57.820 This is Sadiq Khan's

01:09:59.040 globo-homo definition

01:10:00.420 of,

01:10:00.820 you know,

01:10:01.060 open borders,

01:10:02.360 you know,

01:10:02.740 infinite migrants.

01:10:03.900 That's the same

01:10:04.960 that Nigel Farage

01:10:05.680 has adopted here.

01:10:06.700 This is preposterous.

01:10:08.360 So now on immigration

01:10:09.080 you're the lifeblood.

01:10:10.000 You only have to be there

01:10:10.760 five to ten years.

01:10:12.240 And you're there for someone

01:10:13.460 who is capable of then,

01:10:15.380 remember this is about

01:10:16.180 housing policy.

01:10:17.180 Yeah.

01:10:17.500 So if someone comes here

01:10:18.760 in Britain for five to ten years,

01:10:20.640 in any way,

01:10:21.280 shape or form,

01:10:22.360 you're now that nationality 1.00

01:10:24.460 and therefore capable

01:10:25.460 of receiving housing.

01:10:26.140 It's literally magic soil theory.

01:10:27.640 Yeah,

01:10:28.120 that's it.

01:10:29.020 But is that a loan?

01:10:30.880 No.

01:10:31.080 No.

01:10:32.040 This was me.

01:10:34.500 I think...

01:10:34.820 I mean,

01:10:35.080 this connects quite well

01:10:35.900 with it really.

01:10:36.340 Yeah, it connects it.

01:10:36.860 I do.

01:10:37.260 Because if,

01:10:37.460 like,

01:10:38.700 Nigel Farage,

01:10:39.720 if a million people

01:10:40.900 can live in,

01:10:42.040 can be brought from,

01:10:42.840 like there was a Welsh 0.96

01:10:43.960 MP or whatever,

01:10:45.680 whatever they call

01:10:46.560 the constituency MPs,

01:10:48.840 like,

01:10:49.120 who was like,

01:10:49.560 oh yeah,

01:10:49.800 we should be bringing in

01:10:50.920 millions of Afghan women

01:10:52.260 to save them

01:10:53.280 from the burqa

01:10:54.040 and being Afghani.

01:10:55.340 And it's like,

01:10:55.760 okay,

01:10:55.900 well then they would

01:10:56.560 become just as Welsh

01:10:57.600 even though there are

01:10:58.360 three million Welsh

01:10:59.040 and four to one million Afghans.

01:11:00.880 So,

01:11:01.840 and then this ties nicely

01:11:03.320 into this,

01:11:03.760 doesn't it?

01:11:04.020 Oh,

01:11:04.500 absolutely.

01:11:05.100 I mean,

01:11:05.300 this is then going on

01:11:06.460 to the next individual.

01:11:07.380 Richard Tice is an MP.

01:11:09.460 They,

01:11:09.820 as we said,

01:11:10.400 could he have been the chairman?

01:11:11.580 He was once the vice chairman

01:11:12.980 under Ben Habib.

01:11:14.600 We're talking about immigration again, 0.96

01:11:16.240 so we've now looked at

01:11:17.140 different policies

01:11:18.080 ranged from David Bull.

01:11:20.760 We've now seen

01:11:21.460 the immigration argument

01:11:22.360 of what is a citizen

01:11:23.300 of this country

01:11:24.040 from Nigel Farage

01:11:25.040 in a recent interview.

01:11:26.400 And then we're talking about

01:11:27.120 are you concerned

01:11:27.820 that there will be

01:11:28.800 a minority British,

01:11:30.280 white British,

01:11:31.800 is that a concern to you?

01:11:33.400 And Richard Tice says

01:11:34.740 it's a long way off,

01:11:36.140 I'll be long gone.

01:11:38.420 I'll be long gone.

01:11:39.940 Richard Tice has three kids.

01:11:41.460 I don't give two flying

01:11:42.660 whatever's

01:11:44.080 about what's going to happen

01:11:45.400 to my country.

01:11:46.160 I'll be long gone,

01:11:46.760 but please keep me in as an MP.

01:11:48.180 I just like the idea

01:11:49.200 of being able to flaunt myself

01:11:50.900 with those two letters

01:11:51.840 after my name.

01:11:52.680 It can go down

01:11:54.020 in history

01:11:55.180 and on Wikipedia

01:11:55.940 that I was an MP.

01:11:56.940 But I'll be long gone.

01:11:58.660 And my children won't suffer

01:12:00.020 because they're

01:12:00.780 in the United Arab Emirates.

01:12:02.620 Yes.

01:12:03.680 I mean, everyone around them

01:12:04.680 will be Welsh or English

01:12:06.300 because they'll have been here

01:12:07.160 for five or ten years.

01:12:08.200 So I don't know

01:12:08.760 what your objection is, 0.54

01:12:09.740 you bigot. 0.85

01:12:10.560 Yes.

01:12:11.120 And so what we've got,

01:12:12.380 he doesn't bear

01:12:12.920 any responsibility

01:12:13.900 for his behaviour.

01:12:15.480 And this is going

01:12:16.340 to the issue of trust.

01:12:18.100 Now,

01:12:19.480 do we trust them

01:12:20.680 when we say

01:12:21.320 that they want

01:12:22.420 to be capable

01:12:23.580 of managing

01:12:24.520 the big issues

01:12:26.080 politically

01:12:26.700 in this country

01:12:28.180 of which one

01:12:28.800 of those big issues

01:12:29.840 is how do you

01:12:31.000 manage immigration,

01:12:32.040 the large numbers

01:12:32.720 coming into it,

01:12:33.580 the criminality,

01:12:34.660 the cost,

01:12:35.260 the economic issues

01:12:36.280 and the social changes

01:12:37.540 that are happening

01:12:38.560 in a way

01:12:39.560 that preserves

01:12:40.800 the rights of this nation

01:12:41.960 and also ensures

01:12:43.300 that we don't go under.

01:12:45.180 And the trust issue's there.

01:12:46.960 I'll be long gone.

01:12:48.680 It says everything

01:12:49.540 about the man.

01:12:50.280 The thing is,

01:12:50.800 I trust that that is

01:12:51.740 his honest opinion,

01:12:52.800 frankly.

01:12:53.140 Yeah.

01:12:53.760 It just,

01:12:54.380 what are we looking at here?

01:12:55.300 We're not looking

01:12:55.840 at a right-wing party.

01:12:57.360 We're not looking

01:12:57.780 at a party that cares

01:12:58.540 about the British people

01:12:59.520 at all.

01:13:00.340 Oh, well,

01:13:00.700 I'll wait for a couple

01:13:01.840 because I'm looking

01:13:02.420 at the time

01:13:03.340 and there's far few.

01:13:04.560 But I then said,

01:13:05.520 okay,

01:13:05.800 so we've now looked

01:13:06.660 at, you know,

01:13:07.520 schools, education,

01:13:08.700 sexuality,

01:13:10.060 kind of the family concept,

01:13:12.020 what is a nationality,

01:13:13.200 immigration.

01:13:14.180 Then one of the big issues

01:13:15.220 at the moment

01:13:15.800 is the burqa 0.93

01:13:16.820 and he's now

01:13:18.000 the new chairman

01:13:18.580 and David,

01:13:19.660 again,

01:13:20.120 straight away

01:13:20.600 out of that.

01:13:21.980 I've replaced

01:13:22.580 Zia Yusuf who said,

01:13:24.180 I didn't really want

01:13:25.000 to ban the burqa 1.00

01:13:25.600 but now I said,

01:13:26.280 I don't. 0.98

01:13:26.500 He called it dumb. 0.99

01:13:27.500 He said it was dumb, 1.00

01:13:28.300 dumb, 1.00

01:13:28.620 da-da-dum. 1.00

01:13:29.180 And he said,

01:13:29.700 like, 0.99

01:13:29.820 that was dumb 0.99

01:13:30.340 and then he came back 0.99

01:13:31.540 and said,

01:13:31.820 I'm phlegmatic about it,

01:13:33.180 it's all right,

01:13:33.880 it'll be fine.

01:13:34.820 But David Ball goes back

01:13:35.920 and says,

01:13:36.300 no, we shouldn't.

01:13:37.140 So he's got the exact

01:13:37.980 same opinion

01:13:38.500 as Zia Yusuf

01:13:39.320 on the burqa.

01:13:39.860 Zia Yusuf on that.

01:13:41.040 No to banning the burqa. 0.93

01:13:42.720 So,

01:13:43.620 this is interesting

01:13:44.640 because I don't think,

01:13:46.700 well,

01:13:46.900 one,

01:13:47.240 the burqa ban

01:13:47.820 wouldn't work

01:13:48.660 and it doesn't matter

01:13:49.980 because if the demographics

01:13:51.340 change,

01:13:52.060 they'll just simply

01:13:52.920 re-implement it

01:13:54.500 but also it's,

01:13:56.200 for David's opinion

01:13:57.200 to be,

01:13:57.960 no,

01:13:58.300 we're not banning it,

01:13:59.620 speaks in contradiction

01:14:00.760 to his own

01:14:02.040 stated opinion

01:14:03.020 of forced assimilation,

01:14:06.020 of integration.

01:14:07.320 It's like,

01:14:07.580 okay,

01:14:07.820 well,

01:14:07.960 if you're an integrationist,

01:14:09.220 why aren't you

01:14:10.180 making them

01:14:10.800 look and appear

01:14:11.520 as British as you can?

01:14:13.100 I completely missed that.

01:14:14.280 Yeah,

01:14:14.580 no,

01:14:14.860 so again,

01:14:16.060 it goes to that

01:14:16.600 juxtaposition

01:14:17.260 of who he actually is.

01:14:19.300 Is he just saying

01:14:20.340 these lines

01:14:20.900 because that's

01:14:21.420 genuinely what he believes

01:14:22.500 and that's what I think

01:14:24.140 he is genuinely

01:14:25.200 being who he is.

01:14:26.360 A Cameronite,

01:14:27.220 a Blairite,

01:14:28.300 but nothing to do

01:14:29.520 with a genuine

01:14:30.200 pro-patriotic party.

01:14:32.380 No,

01:14:32.540 they're an international

01:14:33.180 liberal party.

01:14:34.480 They're a globalist party.

01:14:35.500 So we've now gone

01:14:36.080 through a number

01:14:36.440 of three or four

01:14:36.940 different policy issues

01:14:38.320 and of course

01:14:38.960 Islam now 0.99

01:14:39.740 steps into one.

01:14:42.240 Faraj suspends

01:14:43.360 a reform candidate

01:14:44.280 for claiming Islam 0.74

01:14:45.160 is a false religion. 0.98

01:14:47.580 That is remarkable.

01:14:49.340 Well,

01:14:49.560 every Christian,

01:14:50.520 as a world by wolf

01:14:52.040 points out,

01:14:52.880 it has,

01:14:53.560 in our religious tenets,

01:14:54.720 by definition,

01:14:55.420 believes Islam 0.89

01:14:56.080 is a false religion. 0.98

01:14:57.220 Every religion. 0.85

01:14:58.180 Jew believes

01:14:58.700 every other religion 0.99

01:15:00.500 is a false religion. 0.98

01:15:02.420 So therefore,

01:15:03.400 if you believe

01:15:04.140 in freedom of religion,

01:15:05.340 which is another

01:15:06.380 political issue,

01:15:07.760 another conceptual idea

01:15:09.140 of what conservatism

01:15:10.640 should be about,

01:15:11.980 a modern pro-conservative

01:15:13.300 party,

01:15:14.060 should be about

01:15:14.600 accepting,

01:15:15.620 you know,

01:15:15.880 the Christian concepts

01:15:17.180 and allowing them

01:15:18.380 to be able to

01:15:19.000 believe in what

01:15:20.280 Christianity is

01:15:21.400 without receiving

01:15:22.500 the big hand

01:15:23.680 of your political leader

01:15:25.160 firing you for it.

01:15:26.480 I mean,

01:15:26.700 the normative

01:15:27.340 characteristics

01:15:28.100 of the British people

01:15:29.500 should allow to

01:15:30.380 assert an affirmative

01:15:31.680 vision of what they are.

01:15:33.360 But also,

01:15:34.280 if she had said

01:15:35.260 Buddhism is a false religion, 1.00

01:15:37.320 would Faraj have

01:15:37.900 kicked her out?

01:15:38.340 Probably not.

01:15:39.040 I don't think

01:15:39.440 you'd have cared.

01:15:40.160 No.

01:15:40.380 Which means that

01:15:41.100 Islam has a privileged 1.00

01:15:42.740 position in reform,

01:15:44.840 making reform

01:15:45.600 essentially an Islamic 0.91

01:15:46.560 party.

01:15:47.480 If you're not allowed

01:15:48.320 to say Islam

01:15:48.900 is a false religion 0.99

01:15:49.500 but you won't get

01:15:50.000 kicked out for saying

01:15:50.500 Christianity is a false 1.00

01:15:51.380 religion, 1.00

01:15:51.880 then it's an Islamic 0.98

01:15:53.300 party.

01:15:54.880 And I'm just finding

01:15:55.780 this quite bizarre,

01:15:57.980 you know,

01:15:58.560 in that they,

01:15:59.500 none,

01:16:00.060 who,

01:16:00.200 obviously we've got

01:16:02.120 to look at why

01:16:02.720 the left is not

01:16:03.720 picking up on this

01:16:04.480 and the conservatives

01:16:05.160 are not picking up on this

01:16:06.040 because they all

01:16:06.600 believe it themselves.

01:16:07.200 Yeah,

01:16:07.300 they'll agree with it.

01:16:07.780 It's exactly the same

01:16:08.720 and the press are

01:16:09.660 giving Faraj an easy ride.

01:16:11.540 But the cultists

01:16:13.780 within Faraj

01:16:14.440 are believing it

01:16:15.100 and he says

01:16:15.520 many Britons

01:16:16.040 are converting to Islam.

01:16:17.120 This is,

01:16:18.020 as he was,

01:16:18.700 the chairman of Reform UK

01:16:19.740 is a Muslim born in Scotland

01:16:20.880 with Sri Lankan origins.

01:16:22.120 Islam is eating up 1.00

01:16:22.900 the UK inch by inch

01:16:24.380 and Faraj goes on

01:16:25.940 why Islam is getting 1.00

01:16:27.000 stronger

01:16:27.740 on there.

01:16:28.920 I don't know

01:16:29.800 if we've got time

01:16:30.360 to play out.

01:16:30.860 Let's try it.

01:16:31.800 Let's go through.

01:16:33.360 This Archbishop

01:16:34.000 is turning people 0.53

01:16:34.820 away from religion,

01:16:35.840 certainly from the

01:16:36.260 Church of England

01:16:36.840 in their droves.

01:16:37.940 Many are just giving up

01:16:38.640 on religion completely.

01:16:39.700 A lot of people

01:16:40.400 are converting to Islam,

01:16:41.480 aren't they?

01:16:41.800 Have you noticed that as well?

01:16:42.860 Yes,

01:16:43.180 there is a bit of a trend

01:16:43.880 with that.

01:16:44.420 Islam is a very complicated one 1.00

01:16:45.860 because there are clearly

01:16:47.100 sects that are compatible

01:16:48.520 and we respect equally

01:16:50.140 because Islam doesn't 1.00

01:16:51.060 have a proper head. 0.97

01:16:52.000 There are elements of it

01:16:53.020 that are very worrying

01:16:53.920 and very scary.

01:16:55.740 Wow.

01:16:56.160 I don't know if a lot of people

01:16:57.080 are converting to Islam though.

01:16:58.340 I don't believe that.

01:16:59.440 I don't believe that they are.

01:17:00.980 Unless you're being forced

01:17:01.820 to imprison,

01:17:02.560 but let's see if you can survive

01:17:06.480 like Tommy Robinson,

01:17:07.720 otherwise you convert.

01:17:09.300 But what I wanted to look at this

01:17:11.280 is there are sects that are okay

01:17:13.300 and there are sects that are not okay.

01:17:16.800 In a safer time,

01:17:17.860 I'm afraid we're going to have

01:17:18.440 to push on.

01:17:18.860 So, you know,

01:17:19.560 again I'm pointing out

01:17:20.420 the issues of here,

01:17:21.860 lack of understanding

01:17:22.840 of a bigger issue.

01:17:24.100 Lack of courage.

01:17:24.900 Lack of courage.

01:17:26.780 Issues of chilling warning 0.95

01:17:27.960 over Muslim population.

01:17:30.020 We're politically alienate.

01:17:31.520 We will lose.

01:17:32.180 We will lose.

01:17:32.920 Completely convinced 1.00

01:17:33.640 that Islam will just crush us 1.00

01:17:35.640 and we'll have it. 0.99

01:17:35.980 That's right.

01:17:36.500 We just can't fight back.

01:17:37.460 Okay.

01:17:37.760 So,

01:17:38.220 giving Islam a privileged position 1.00

01:17:40.100 over all other religions

01:17:41.300 and those who are atheists

01:17:42.620 and agnostics.

01:17:43.520 The best we can hope for

01:17:44.140 is a managed orderly surrender.

01:17:46.200 Yeah.

01:17:46.720 That's it.

01:17:48.420 That's really what Churchill said,

01:17:50.340 didn't he,

01:17:50.760 when Hitler was crossing over. 0.54

01:17:52.320 Okay.

01:17:53.520 Maybe I'm being a bit sad on this

01:17:54.980 but I just found this

01:17:55.800 particularly funny.

01:17:56.860 I mean,

01:17:57.100 I thought the beard

01:17:58.080 was particularly well kept

01:17:59.340 to be honest looking at it

01:18:00.700 and it really did blend in

01:18:01.720 with the tie.

01:18:02.840 But, you know,

01:18:03.580 this is what people are beginning

01:18:05.100 to think about Faraj.

01:18:06.780 They're beginning to see him

01:18:08.500 because he is not saying things

01:18:10.940 that enables people

01:18:12.980 to say,

01:18:13.580 hang on a minute,

01:18:14.060 I thought you were

01:18:14.760 of the patriotic right

01:18:15.740 and you're not recognising

01:18:17.000 some of the big issues.

01:18:18.580 No, he's not.

01:18:19.820 He's a liberal.

01:18:21.420 I come across,

01:18:22.800 I think,

01:18:23.460 is that,

01:18:25.480 that's the one wrong now.

01:18:26.660 That's the one there.

01:18:27.760 Sorry,

01:18:28.580 no,

01:18:29.440 I just clicked the one.

01:18:33.140 He then talks about economically,

01:18:35.280 I was going to,

01:18:35.700 final points about,

01:18:36.540 he talks about

01:18:36.960 population explosion

01:18:38.060 is leading to the declining

01:18:39.200 living standards.

01:18:40.680 So,

01:18:40.920 his answer to that

01:18:41.520 is an employer immigration tax.

01:18:43.440 Again,

01:18:43.800 not dealing with the issue.

01:18:45.380 Let's hit the businesses

01:18:46.620 that he says are struggling

01:18:48.200 to be able to sustain itself.

01:18:50.680 So,

01:18:50.900 economically,

01:18:51.880 he is not

01:18:52.780 of the right anymore.

01:18:55.420 We've got this,

01:18:56.300 who banged on about

01:18:57.000 under influence

01:18:57.980 of the World Economic Forum

01:18:59.420 and yet we do know

01:19:00.700 that Basim Haider

01:19:01.540 has got a major influence

01:19:03.340 behind the scenes

01:19:04.220 with Zia Yusuf

01:19:05.100 who brought him in

01:19:06.460 and they're both members

01:19:07.960 of the World Economic Forum.

01:19:09.560 Nigel talks about

01:19:10.980 the elites in charge

01:19:12.540 and yet he's bringing them in

01:19:14.180 and I think I'm just going to

01:19:15.420 finish on this point

01:19:16.400 on all the different policies.

01:19:20.080 Farage on Gaza,

01:19:21.940 you know,

01:19:22.360 wonderful thriving place

01:19:23.580 with well-paid jobs,

01:19:24.560 casinos,

01:19:25.180 nightlife,

01:19:25.600 it seems like

01:19:26.560 very appealing to me

01:19:28.340 on that.

01:19:29.580 He's an economic

01:19:30.440 and social liberal.

01:19:31.600 I mean,

01:19:31.860 irrespective of the rights

01:19:33.180 of the Gaza,

01:19:33.740 all I see Gaza is 0.99

01:19:35.320 is a nice place

01:19:36.820 to have a party.

01:19:37.680 It needs to be developed

01:19:39.020 like real estate.

01:19:39.980 Yeah,

01:19:40.320 that's right.

01:19:40.960 And so,

01:19:41.620 this isn't now

01:19:42.600 politics are current,

01:19:43.840 all the different policies

01:19:44.800 that we've looked at,

01:19:46.960 the people in charge

01:19:48.260 of reform,

01:19:49.140 they've imploded

01:19:49.880 and I think you're

01:19:50.780 rightly to point out.

01:19:52.060 Yeah,

01:19:52.300 they've just completely

01:19:53.080 lost all their credibility,

01:19:54.480 frankly.

01:19:55.780 It's just

01:19:56.420 mental.

01:19:59.060 Matthew says,

01:19:59.640 would you give up the NHS

01:20:00.400 to resurrect the British Empire

01:20:01.560 as the British Empire

01:20:02.740 sacrificed for universal healthcare?

01:20:04.320 I personally don't desire

01:20:05.660 the return of Empire 0.86

01:20:06.600 but I also don't like

01:20:09.220 the fact that

01:20:09.780 it's an international

01:20:10.640 health service

01:20:11.220 so what are you going to do?

01:20:12.940 And Glee says,

01:20:13.580 so reforms,

01:20:14.240 new chairman,

01:20:14.760 meet the old boss,

01:20:15.540 meet the new boss

01:20:16.220 somehow more insufferable

01:20:17.460 than the old boss.

01:20:21.140 And the thing is,

01:20:22.200 he's not even the new boss.

01:20:23.800 Zia Yusuf is still going to be 1.00

01:20:24.900 hand-puppeting

01:20:25.560 everything anyway

01:20:26.920 so just mad.

01:20:29.020 Anyway,

01:20:29.260 let's go to the video comments.

01:20:31.820 Baron von Warhawk says,

01:20:33.040 Mexico had California

01:20:34.040 for 27 years,

01:20:35.140 America has had it for 175.

01:20:36.620 This is literally just Gibbs.

01:20:38.340 Give me that state for free

01:20:39.460 after you developed

01:20:40.040 and turned it into

01:20:40.640 an economic powerhouse.

01:20:41.780 Yeah,

01:20:41.900 because that's the important thing.

01:20:42.860 California had nothing

01:20:43.920 when the Mexicans had it 1.00

01:20:45.500 and now it's something.

01:20:46.920 They're like,

01:20:47.200 oh,

01:20:47.400 this is our land. 0.99

01:20:48.300 I'll piss off. 0.70

01:20:49.440 Let's go to the comment.

01:20:52.080 Good afternoon.

01:20:53.580 Good afternoon.

01:20:54.500 I'm here in Branson, Missouri

01:20:55.820 and as Carl pointed out,

01:20:58.780 we Americans take our

01:21:00.200 military pride

01:21:02.100 somewhat seriously.

01:21:02.760 This is our

01:21:03.620 Long Range Reconnaissance

01:21:05.680 Association meeting

01:21:07.100 that we have

01:21:07.720 every year

01:21:08.500 here in Branson, Missouri.

01:21:10.840 I'll send you more videos.

01:21:13.580 Please do.

01:21:14.760 I'm interested to see

01:21:15.680 what else goes.

01:21:17.120 Let's go to the next one.

01:21:17.840 A quick relevant history.

01:21:22.720 Before 1940,

01:21:23.860 the mostly agrarian frontier state

01:21:25.740 of Washington

01:21:26.340 did not produce

01:21:27.100 a single ounce of aluminum.

01:21:28.920 In 1943,

01:21:29.980 the newly completed

01:21:30.800 Grand Coulee Dam

01:21:31.920 on the Columbia River,

01:21:33.320 still the largest

01:21:33.980 in North America,

01:21:35.300 provided the state

01:21:36.080 with tons of cheap

01:21:37.020 electricity for industry.

01:21:38.720 Heavy wartime emphasis

01:21:39.900 was placed on building up

01:21:41.120 aluminum refining

01:21:42.000 in the state.

01:21:42.620 By the end of 1943,

01:21:44.540 Washington made up

01:21:45.360 one-third of the

01:21:46.400 United States'

01:21:47.320 total aluminum production.

01:21:48.940 Today,

01:21:49.380 they're mostly all closed.

01:21:50.560 Go figure.

01:21:52.400 I want to do that

01:21:53.500 exact walk.

01:21:54.580 It looks amazing.

01:21:55.480 I was going to say,

01:21:56.820 it looks cool,

01:21:57.500 doesn't it?

01:21:57.920 I like an aluminum

01:21:59.280 production.

01:22:00.000 What are you talking about?

01:22:02.220 This is...

01:22:03.260 There's a big footnote.

01:22:06.140 Let's go to the next one.

01:22:07.240 He looks a bit silvery.

01:22:07.980 On a scale from one to ten,

01:22:14.300 my friend,

01:22:15.040 you're...

01:22:15.660 In lack of other words,

01:22:19.240 I'd say you're...

01:22:20.920 You were...

01:22:22.700 Oh, God.

01:22:29.560 Oh, I read...

01:22:30.240 A piece of hackney,

01:22:31.120 Diane Abbott there.

01:22:32.100 Oh, God.

01:22:32.720 I have my degree

01:22:33.440 from Cambridge Oxford.

01:22:35.060 Oh, my God.

01:22:35.940 I'm opening a gate.

01:22:36.760 This is just decline, man.

01:22:39.940 Absolute decline.

01:22:42.600 Sophie says,

01:22:43.600 I just remember the plot

01:22:44.820 from The Mask of Zorro

01:22:45.660 with Antonio Banderas

01:22:46.840 taking place in Los Angeles

01:22:48.280 during Mexican rule

01:22:49.300 where the Mexico rulers

01:22:50.580 are oppressive

01:22:51.420 and believe the people

01:22:52.020 drive via taxes.

01:22:53.300 Also uses slavery

01:22:54.120 to dig out gold

01:22:54.920 and the whole resolution

01:22:56.240 of the movie

01:22:56.700 is they achieve freedom

01:22:57.720 by freeing themselves

01:22:58.420 from Mexico

01:22:58.860 and becoming American.

01:23:00.320 Yeah, well, that's

01:23:02.060 what Hollywood

01:23:03.020 used to think.

01:23:04.800 And then,

01:23:06.080 well,

01:23:06.320 Los Angeles

01:23:07.300 became 50% Mexican

01:23:08.600 and now

01:23:09.700 things are different.

01:23:12.100 Someone online says,

01:23:13.160 I say we split the state

01:23:14.280 into California

01:23:14.960 and Jefferson

01:23:15.460 and then wall off California

01:23:16.940 and kick them out

01:23:17.480 of the Union.

01:23:18.220 No, no, no.

01:23:19.460 I'm sick of this retreat.

01:23:22.280 Denaturalize 0.99

01:23:22.800 every Mexican 0.96

01:23:23.460 in California 0.99

01:23:24.100 and then deport.

01:23:25.740 You know,

01:23:26.020 detain,

01:23:26.620 denaturalize,

01:23:27.320 deport.

01:23:27.860 Advance,

01:23:28.400 no quarter.

01:23:29.100 Exactly.

01:23:30.040 No,

01:23:30.900 stop giving things up.

01:23:32.440 You've got to

01:23:32.660 start taking things.

01:23:34.060 Start taking

01:23:34.580 some Mexican towns

01:23:35.500 on the border. 0.99

01:23:36.520 Screw those people. 0.93

01:23:38.940 Jimbo says, 0.99

01:23:39.840 do any of these

01:23:40.320 full-time Mexican 0.84

01:23:40.960 rioters have jobs 0.99

01:23:41.800 to go to?

01:23:43.040 I mean,

01:23:43.980 like you were

01:23:45.540 pointing out,

01:23:45.940 they're hardly

01:23:46.360 Mexico's finest,

01:23:47.360 right?

01:23:47.760 No.

01:23:47.900 Remarkably fat. 0.89

01:23:52.700 Arizona Desert Rat

01:23:53.620 says,

01:23:54.260 if the name

01:23:54.660 of the city

01:23:55.040 is Spanish,

01:23:56.360 it was colonized.

01:23:57.360 Great point,

01:23:58.340 actually.

01:24:00.120 Exactly correct.

01:24:01.260 And this is,

01:24:02.060 I'm so frustrated

01:24:03.000 by this.

01:24:03.360 They're like,

01:24:03.840 oh,

01:24:04.320 we Mexicans

01:24:05.260 were here first.

01:24:05.860 They weren't.

01:24:07.360 Okay,

01:24:07.740 you were colonists

01:24:08.540 just like the rest

01:24:09.300 of us, 1.00

01:24:09.920 so shut up. 1.00

01:24:13.180 Charlie says, 0.99

01:24:14.160 it should be noted

01:24:15.220 that the Irish government

01:24:16.040 is currently beyond repair.

01:24:17.900 Our current,

01:24:18.940 how was he,

01:24:19.640 I can never pronounce this,

01:24:20.620 so Prime Minister

01:24:21.260 said that in Parliament

01:24:22.500 on the 11th of May 2017,

01:24:24.440 Ireland wants nothing

01:24:25.240 to do with a backward 0.95

01:24:26.200 looking idea of sovereignty.

01:24:28.100 Oh,

01:24:28.920 what does sovereignty mean?

01:24:30.100 That thing you fought

01:24:31.400 for for a thousand years.

01:24:32.880 Very backwards.

01:24:34.320 We've got it

01:24:35.060 after all that time

01:24:36.120 and now we don't want it.

01:24:37.140 Just giving in.

01:24:38.440 Giving in.

01:24:38.920 They're like,

01:24:39.200 nah,

01:24:39.460 the English deserve 1.00

01:24:40.200 to rule Ireland.

01:24:41.300 Says the current

01:24:42.440 Prime Minister

01:24:42.860 was Leo Vadaka.

01:24:44.680 Charlie says,

01:24:45.380 Stephen,

01:24:45.720 the PSNI

01:24:46.620 have always dealt

01:24:47.300 with trouble

01:24:47.800 in Northern Ireland

01:24:48.420 with a heavy hand.

01:24:49.800 I've no doubt.

01:24:51.560 I'm not saying

01:24:52.320 they haven't on there,

01:24:53.620 but it just is

01:24:54.920 over heavy handed

01:24:56.540 if you're looking at it

01:24:57.700 on a kind of rational way.

01:24:59.640 They should be interfacing

01:25:00.520 with the community.

01:25:01.460 Absolutely.

01:25:01.900 They should be sat down

01:25:02.560 and go,

01:25:02.780 okay,

01:25:02.880 what's the problem?

01:25:03.520 What can we do?

01:25:04.420 Here's a suggestion.

01:25:06.220 But they haven't done

01:25:07.700 that at all.

01:25:11.360 Sorry,

01:25:11.760 am I missing something here?

01:25:13.360 Yeah,

01:25:13.500 no.

01:25:14.760 Bay State says,

01:25:15.600 I haven't seen the Irish 1.00

01:25:16.260 this angry since you guys

01:25:17.220 hid all their potatoes.

01:25:18.140 Look,

01:25:18.420 man,

01:25:18.860 I looked into the Irish 0.99

01:25:20.520 potato famine.

01:25:21.740 You know what the problem was?

01:25:23.560 It was the Whigs. 0.88

01:25:25.040 So at the time,

01:25:25.780 when it began,

01:25:26.240 there was a conservative government

01:25:27.220 and they were like,

01:25:28.080 okay,

01:25:28.240 we'll just import a load of food.

01:25:29.860 And then the Whigs took over

01:25:30.920 and the Whigs were like, 0.69

01:25:32.120 the free market will save this.

01:25:34.140 And so they stopped

01:25:35.100 the importation of the food

01:25:36.460 and so obviously

01:25:37.500 people started starving

01:25:38.440 and they're millions.

01:25:39.360 And everyone's like,

01:25:40.100 what are you doing?

01:25:40.620 And the Whigs were like, 0.89

01:25:41.120 listen man,

01:25:42.160 the market's going to fix this.

01:25:43.700 It's like,

01:25:43.960 are you mad?

01:25:45.140 You know,

01:25:45.480 like the conservatives

01:25:46.280 at the time were just like,

01:25:47.160 you know,

01:25:47.360 we're just bringing food.

01:25:48.360 There's a problem.

01:25:48.800 We can fix it.

01:25:49.260 When you said Whigs,

01:25:50.220 I thought David Bull and Reform

01:25:51.380 were getting in again.

01:25:52.420 Well,

01:25:52.760 yeah.

01:25:54.240 It's just,

01:25:55.480 honestly,

01:25:56.160 I just,

01:25:57.040 everything the liberals

01:25:58.200 have ever done,

01:25:59.600 apart from the abolition of slavery,

01:26:01.580 has been bad.

01:26:02.980 And everything the Tories

01:26:04.220 have ever done

01:26:04.760 has also been bad.

01:26:06.340 Well,

01:26:06.460 no,

01:26:06.700 I mean,

01:26:06.940 like the conservatives

01:26:07.580 wanted to bring food in

01:26:08.760 because obviously there's a famine.

01:26:09.860 So that was a sensible

01:26:10.820 policy.

01:26:12.240 You know,

01:26:12.860 the conservatives,

01:26:13.760 their problem isn't necessarily

01:26:14.720 being bad.

01:26:15.300 It's being profoundly weak

01:26:16.980 to the Whigs,

01:26:18.080 to the liberals

01:26:18.660 and not rejecting them.

01:26:20.700 But anyway,

01:26:21.400 Russian says,

01:26:22.280 reform slash Farage

01:26:23.260 have just used up

01:26:24.020 the political will

01:26:24.580 of the boomers.

01:26:25.460 They will vote reform

01:26:26.280 no matter what now.

01:26:27.300 He can just back down

01:26:28.240 now to carry on

01:26:29.640 being the media limelight

01:26:30.520 without pushback.

01:26:31.220 The damage is done.

01:26:32.260 Yeah,

01:26:32.420 that's the thing.

01:26:32.820 Like,

01:26:33.540 the total destruction

01:26:35.360 of reform's own credibility.

01:26:37.200 It's like,

01:26:37.440 no,

01:26:37.580 no,

01:26:37.700 we are not for the British people. 0.99

01:26:39.100 We are for the international

01:26:40.100 liberal order.

01:26:41.240 That's what they're saying.

01:26:42.420 And so,

01:26:42.720 okay,

01:26:42.900 well,

01:26:43.020 that's not what I'm for.

01:26:44.120 You know,

01:26:44.260 I'm totally against that,

01:26:45.260 in fact.

01:26:46.140 James says,

01:26:46.940 the question,

01:26:47.560 why are we debating this,

01:26:48.740 is an extremely important one.

01:26:50.460 Home Math put it very well

01:26:51.480 the other day.

01:26:52.300 You vote and debate

01:26:53.120 about things like

01:26:54.000 economic policy,

01:26:55.040 tax rises,

01:26:55.680 and local planning matters.

01:26:56.540 You do not vote and debate

01:26:57.880 on things like

01:26:58.760 sterilizing children,

01:26:59.860 ethnic replacement,

01:27:00.660 or cancelling freedom of speech.

01:27:02.460 Exactly true.

01:27:03.680 Exactly true.

01:27:04.620 The fact that we are

01:27:05.620 permitting the discussion

01:27:06.680 is allowing them

01:27:07.900 to drive the dialectic

01:27:09.300 in the way that they want.

01:27:10.260 Absolutely.

01:27:11.020 No,

01:27:11.640 sorry,

01:27:12.020 we're not,

01:27:12.400 that's not up for debate,

01:27:13.520 actually.

01:27:14.620 Dirty Belt says, 1.00

01:27:15.980 I have said this before

01:27:16.640 and I will say it again,

01:27:17.320 reform is simply neo-Tories.

01:27:19.020 Unless there is some

01:27:19.680 colossal shake-up,

01:27:20.520 then expect nothing

01:27:21.100 based from them.

01:27:22.320 One must either

01:27:23.020 discard liberalism

01:27:23.900 and become a nativist,

01:27:24.760 or become atomized

01:27:25.740 and undone by it.

01:27:27.460 This is true.

01:27:28.420 And anyone who were

01:27:29.600 in reform

01:27:30.180 who wasn't a neo-Tory

01:27:31.600 was,

01:27:32.480 didn't get past

01:27:33.260 the selection stage

01:27:34.420 or was soundly

01:27:35.740 ejected.

01:27:37.140 Absolutely.

01:27:38.000 Absolutely.

01:27:39.560 And I totally agreed

01:27:41.020 and Chance here points out

01:27:42.540 reform isn't it,

01:27:43.720 you know,

01:27:44.000 go for something else,

01:27:44.960 whatever Rupert Lowe does

01:27:45.840 or whoever else.

01:27:46.720 Yeah.

01:27:47.520 Like,

01:27:48.020 Rupert Lowe just came out

01:27:48.920 in direct contradiction

01:27:50.300 and was like,

01:27:51.260 no,

01:27:51.900 the British people

01:27:52.700 are the lifeblood of Britain,

01:27:53.840 which,

01:27:54.760 again,

01:27:55.040 not a controversial statement,

01:27:57.280 something that shouldn't

01:27:58.020 really need to be said,

01:27:59.100 and yet this was

01:28:00.280 a very important statement

01:28:02.260 for right-wing politics

01:28:03.820 in this country

01:28:04.320 for some reason,

01:28:05.180 because,

01:28:05.800 unbelievable.

01:28:07.000 Mr. Flipple says,

01:28:07.880 we have to stick behind reform

01:28:08.820 because the only chance

01:28:09.620 we'll get to hurt

01:28:10.440 the Uni Party,

01:28:11.500 which has caused

01:28:11.980 so much harm.

01:28:12.940 First time in my lifetime

01:28:13.860 this looked possible.

01:28:14.740 Right.

01:28:15.040 I understand

01:28:16.240 the motive

01:28:17.660 for this.

01:28:18.720 The problem is

01:28:19.520 they have all

01:28:20.940 declared themselves

01:28:21.820 to be a part

01:28:22.460 of the Uni Party.

01:28:23.140 If it walks

01:28:23.720 like the Uni Party

01:28:24.600 and talks

01:28:25.120 like the Uni Party,

01:28:26.340 it's no better.

01:28:27.840 Farage,

01:28:28.520 Tice,

01:28:29.160 Youssef,

01:28:29.680 and Bull

01:28:30.160 are all

01:28:31.180 globalist libs.

01:28:33.020 That's just all they are.

01:28:33.780 They're part

01:28:34.240 of the Uni Party,

01:28:35.000 man.

01:28:35.520 Like,

01:28:35.800 I wanted Farage

01:28:37.420 to be

01:28:37.900 pretending

01:28:39.440 that,

01:28:40.360 you know,

01:28:40.600 oh yeah,

01:28:40.900 I'm kind of a centricist,

01:28:41.900 but actually hardcore

01:28:42.660 to the right.

01:28:43.160 I was kind of hoping

01:28:43.920 he was high level,

01:28:44.520 right?

01:28:45.240 He wasn't.

01:28:46.100 He genuinely believes this.

01:28:47.600 This is what he is.

01:28:48.380 He's a part

01:28:48.940 of the establishment.

01:28:49.620 I'm saying I kept quiet

01:28:51.960 for such a long time

01:28:52.960 about this

01:28:53.480 and my own views

01:28:54.600 in the hope

01:28:55.240 that,

01:28:56.080 you know,

01:28:56.380 that Ken pretends

01:28:57.040 that he would build it

01:28:57.920 with people around him

01:28:59.000 and once he started

01:28:59.680 getting rid of Rupert

01:29:00.540 and others before him,

01:29:02.380 then you realise

01:29:03.060 that we're ending up

01:29:03.960 where we are now,

01:29:04.900 which is exactly

01:29:05.600 the same sort of people

01:29:06.600 that the people

01:29:08.100 are going to be let down

01:29:08.960 upon when they get in power

01:29:10.920 and nothing changes.

01:29:12.960 Well,

01:29:13.140 as I understand it,

01:29:13.760 Rupert Loh and Ben Habib

01:29:14.460 are going to do something

01:29:15.220 and whatever it is,

01:29:16.660 it's got to be better

01:29:17.520 than the alternatives.

01:29:18.340 I have to know.

01:29:20.360 And just to finish,

01:29:21.600 Sam says,

01:29:22.340 Carl,

01:29:22.860 I saw the Death of Man

01:29:23.500 documentary yesterday.

01:29:24.580 I think you should do more.

01:29:25.680 Please keep up

01:29:26.680 all the good work

01:29:27.220 you and the gents 0.87

01:29:27.620 do at Loh C's.

01:29:28.200 Well,

01:29:28.320 thank you very much.

01:29:29.040 It was a lot of work,

01:29:30.060 a lot of reading,

01:29:30.840 a lot of research

01:29:31.480 and a lot of work

01:29:33.460 recording it as well

01:29:34.140 because as you'll notice

01:29:34.660 I was out everywhere

01:29:35.480 but it was very fun to do

01:29:36.720 and we did it ages ago.

01:29:38.200 I'm glad it's finally been published

01:29:39.780 but we will indeed

01:29:41.320 have more on the way.

01:29:45.360 Sorry,

01:29:45.940 that clock's different

01:29:47.080 to that clock

01:29:47.620 so I'm going to go

01:29:48.060 by this clock.

01:29:50.540 Hector says,

01:29:51.540 so Carl,

01:29:52.020 I've learned

01:29:52.320 that I can become Welsh

01:29:53.080 in just five years

01:29:53.980 and Nigel will have my back.

01:29:55.120 Hello, neighbour.

01:29:56.100 I'm not Welsh.

01:29:56.820 Well,

01:29:57.120 I'm half Welsh.

01:29:57.980 I don't live in Wales.

01:30:03.020 I'm in Wilshire.

01:30:04.220 If Farage had said,

01:30:05.480 well,

01:30:05.780 to be Welsh

01:30:06.500 you have to own

01:30:07.120 at least two sheep,

01:30:08.540 that would be more reasonable.

01:30:09.360 Oh,

01:30:09.420 no,

01:30:11.260 no,

01:30:11.580 no.

01:30:11.800 That makes most Welsh people 1.00

01:30:12.240 not actually Welsh,

01:30:13.260 right?

01:30:13.500 They're getting

01:30:16.240 on someone else's sheep.

01:30:18.060 My cousin's coming

01:30:19.000 for you now,

01:30:19.520 that's it.

01:30:21.240 But this is a good one,

01:30:22.100 right?

01:30:22.220 What we see in reform

01:30:23.000 is the corrupting nature

01:30:23.920 of the one ring

01:30:24.540 called liberalism.

01:30:25.560 We begged Farage

01:30:26.260 to cast it into the fires

01:30:27.220 and he whispered back,

01:30:28.160 no.

01:30:29.220 And that's,

01:30:29.920 it's true.

01:30:31.640 You know,

01:30:31.820 Nigel,

01:30:32.100 all you have to do

01:30:32.900 is situate yourself

01:30:34.220 inside the paradigm

01:30:35.340 of the British people

01:30:36.180 and say,

01:30:36.520 no,

01:30:37.180 this is for us,

01:30:38.420 you know,

01:30:38.560 we're not hateful

01:30:39.200 but Farage just could not

01:30:41.220 bear to be called a racist.

01:30:42.880 It's in his soul.

01:30:43.800 He was really like

01:30:44.400 deeply moved

01:30:45.340 when they called me a name.

01:30:46.920 Oh,

01:30:47.220 God.

01:30:47.880 Oh,

01:30:48.180 God,

01:30:48.360 I don't have their approval.

01:30:49.380 No,

01:30:49.540 of course you don't.

01:30:50.300 What did you think

01:30:50.780 you were going to do?

01:30:52.260 And so,

01:30:52.680 ah,

01:30:53.000 it's just,

01:30:54.040 I'm so,

01:30:54.900 so done with reform.

01:30:56.720 I'm so,

01:30:57.660 whatever comes next,

01:30:59.120 it just has to be radical

01:31:00.460 at this point.

01:31:02.440 Sigilstone says,

01:31:03.200 maybe we need to surprise

01:31:03.960 Farage on the street

01:31:04.620 with impromptu group prayer

01:31:06.020 and see if he instinctively

01:31:07.020 runs towards Mecca. 0.99

01:31:09.480 It's so pathetic as well. 0.99

01:31:10.940 This, 1.00

01:31:11.040 this, 1.00

01:31:11.280 this pathetic attitude 1.00

01:31:13.720 of, 1.00

01:31:14.100 oh,

01:31:14.220 we have to bend the knee

01:31:15.300 to Islam.

01:31:15.960 It's like,

01:31:16.140 no,

01:31:16.280 we don't.

01:31:17.480 Like,

01:31:17.860 Americans have a totally 1.00

01:31:19.280 disproportionate view

01:31:20.200 of how many Muslims

01:31:20.860 are in Britain.

01:31:21.840 Right,

01:31:21.980 something like 6.5 to 7%

01:31:23.520 of the country.

01:31:24.760 Americans think it's like 0.78

01:31:25.580 20 or 30%

01:31:26.640 because of the complete

01:31:28.220 weakness that we demonstrate

01:31:29.880 in the face of this

01:31:30.740 foreign religion. 1.00

01:31:31.600 It's just pathetic. 1.00

01:31:33.540 Anyway, 0.71

01:31:34.280 thank you so much

01:31:35.020 for joining us,

01:31:35.480 folks.

01:31:35.880 Go and watch

01:31:36.280 The Death of Manx.

01:31:37.000 Like I said,

01:31:37.320 I worked really hard on it,

01:31:38.420 so I want you to enjoy it

01:31:39.440 and leave comments

01:31:40.760 on there as well

01:31:41.200 because I'm obviously

01:31:41.600 checking the comments

01:31:42.200 because I want to know

01:31:42.820 what you think about it

01:31:43.820 and in the meantime,

01:31:45.640 we will be back tomorrow.

01:31:47.160 So,

01:31:47.500 let me see you next time.

01:31:50.100 So,

01:31:58.640 we'll see you next time.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 11, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1184

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