The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1186

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen well done you made it to friday uh i'm joined today by

00:00:13.520 harry and beau and we are going to be talking about how nothing's happening in iran uh why

00:00:19.480 we should be banning only fans and how actually uh they wasn't britain's in fact no they was

00:00:26.600 although where they were it was we're learning every day that uh the british and english have

00:00:31.200 always been black ah which is why we're black now right now absolutely true okay well um i apparently

00:00:39.160 there was a problem with the chat but i think there is has been a fix for the live chat on the

00:00:43.120 website so uh let us know basically if the chat's working or not and uh without further ado let's

00:00:49.140 let's get on to the the non-happening yeah a little bit of one in the eye for the nothing ever happens

00:00:55.160 something has happened oh um or is happening rather let's say that because overnight or in

00:01:02.260 the wee hours israel struck iran but it's ongoing though it seems yeah it's still before we went

00:01:08.640 on it was just my twitter feed is full of it they're calling it operation rising lion okay so um at the

00:01:16.240 top of the segment i want to say i haven't particularly got any love for the regimes in

00:01:20.000 jerusalem or tehran despite what the gropers say about us um don't care about you so just

00:01:27.420 reporting on what's happening it's the big news story of the day uh operation rising lion and it

00:01:34.560 looks like if you believe what's coming out of jerusalem that it's uh it's not going to be just

00:01:40.260 one night of strikes that it's just it's they've really pulled neti has really pulled the trigger on

00:01:45.120 this thing finally um i think we might be going with uh an ironic thumb that says no one saw this

00:01:53.100 coming everyone saw this coming right i wrote an article like three years ago um and and i've got

00:02:01.100 no special insight particularly oh there you go yeah nobody could have ever predicted israel being

00:02:07.400 aggressive towards its middle eastern neighbors even though specifically iran especially not iran

00:02:13.080 even though iran have been very bellicose in their rhetoric for years and neti has been

00:02:17.460 extremely bellicose back in their rhetoric yeah the important thing yeah they've both been saying they

00:02:23.440 want to screw with each other profoundly for years and years and years they've been saying it yeah

00:02:30.320 it's finally coming to a head now i mean netanyahu has been unbelievably uh warlike towards iran

00:02:37.020 it's a persistent thing his whole career as well there are clips back from the 1990s saying

00:02:42.840 we need to well my whole life whenever i've heard of netanyahu talking about iran it's mostly we need

00:02:47.920 to destroy it it's okay see to me as a as a anglo outsider on all this this just in my mind i

00:02:56.620 conceptualize it as the market stall where the the rug merchant and the gem merchant is just shaking

00:03:01.820 fists at one another for years and yelling at one another and it's finally come to a head

00:03:07.300 yeah yeah that's yeah so as i say three years ago i wrote this thing we were just talking just

00:03:12.880 before we came on in that lectures always put their own books in the reading list so i'm going

00:03:17.440 to quote from dade yeah oh yeah be dade be dade um yeah just i basically just said like one moonless

00:03:25.920 night at some point israel's going to send 100 200 fast jets to just screw with iran's nuclear

00:03:33.680 capability nuclear not nuclear i'm not even sure if i agree with that pronunciation but really but

00:03:39.940 they've they've done this took a lot of flack in i it's a nuclear and i'll say it how i like uh no but

00:03:45.620 the the the point that they've done this will they they wiped out uh iran's entire nuclear

00:03:50.160 uh scientists uh didn't they uh well so they assassinate them on a regular basis yeah yeah

00:03:56.600 yeah that's true so it's it's just like okay so since i first started making my notes this morning

00:04:01.380 um it's upped from the first it was reported that there were three of their top nuclear scientists

00:04:08.100 were killed now it's six okay where have you got this pronunciation from carl nuclear never heard

00:04:15.420 that before i think uh council estates well okay okay now it makes sense one of my defenders in the

00:04:21.920 comments was like it's just his accent bro anyway anyway let's not get sidetracked on that um

00:04:27.900 yeah so um yeah take it they've taken out well it's a it's a strategy of decapitation they call it

00:04:34.240 which is what israel did to hamas what they did to hezbollah um it's a tried and tested tactic

00:04:40.900 it's a good tactic yeah right so they take out the leadership and it's less effective they've um

00:04:45.980 assassinated the head of iran's army the head of iran's uh this their uh the what's their specialist

00:04:53.760 unit the um the one soleimani yeah yeah i can't i can't remember the name of iranian guard special

00:04:59.520 and uh some three of their top guys the chief of staff of the army they haven't targeted the actual

00:05:07.140 um ayatollah ali khomeini they haven't taken him out um but yeah so trying to decapitate it's

00:05:15.840 probably deep under a mountain somewhere well yeah maybe um i mean we saw some reports that

00:05:23.140 netanyahu himself is in the israeli equivalent of air force one flying around do you remember on 9 11

00:05:30.500 they took bush up to they put him on air force one and flew him around for nearly that whole day

00:05:36.100 most of the day um because you're actually so arguably you're actually safer there if you

00:05:42.500 control the skies anyway yeah no one you're not you're literally not on the ground so they can't

00:05:46.660 target you yeah um so it's like this is a strategy map command and conquer it's a bit yeah yeah

00:05:53.860 so i got secured all nearby pages uh well yeah right yeah other thing it speaks of is israel's

00:06:02.100 intelligence services capabilities capabilities they knew exactly where all these guys were

00:06:06.660 all at the same time they are scarily good aren't they and there's a time lapse obviously from missiles

00:06:12.260 from israel to iran it's quite a long way it's like the whole of iraq and syria in the way so they knew

00:06:19.380 they know exactly what was going on so anyway bibi has pulled the trigger on this thing

00:06:26.260 and it's what i mean the iranians have just said this is a declaration of war and it is right it

00:06:30.900 just of course it is they've already been at war the proxy wars yeah they're already they've already

00:06:35.300 been at war this appears to be the declaration of a hot war yeah yeah of the full hot war um

00:06:40.740 and so um it always strikes me one point i want to make that i made in this article that it

00:06:46.740 it doesn't surprise me but i find it interesting that there's certain places in the world

00:06:51.780 that are just has have always been and continue to this day to be flashpoints hot points i mean you

00:06:58.100 go back to the ancient assyrians and their fighting wars in that border region in those those mountainous

00:07:04.660 regions between what is today iran and iraq well the persians are in iran because of the assyrians

00:07:09.860 right yeah i mean you can go back to whenever the the elamites yeah uh what did i talk about that

00:07:15.220 the medes the persians the campaigns of alexander it goes it goes on and on and it's still to this

00:07:20.900 day i mean it's a small side point really but um yeah but the the point is like where where is this

00:07:26.100 going to go exactly because it's not like israel's going to send troops in to occupy the the tiberium

00:07:31.060 fields or anything like that is it you know so it's just going to be missiles raining down on

00:07:36.340 presumably strategic uh targets in iran to try and knock out their capabilities is that okay but what

00:07:43.220 next you know yeah it seems extremely unlikely that either side will actually send in infantry

00:07:48.260 divisions or tank columns against each other they sort of can't logistically like you said

00:07:53.300 there's two countries in the way right so unless iraq and syria are going to allow for just columns

00:07:58.180 to roll straight through but i mean what are they going to do is the iraqi armies is going to come

00:08:03.300 out and try and stop the israelis rolling tanks that's the other thing is that the responses to

00:08:07.220 these kinds of aggressions are always incredibly weak from israel's enemies where they're just sort of

00:08:12.100 like well i guess we lost yeah shrug our shoulders well we'll take that one on the chin iran will fire

00:08:16.900 some missiles back and kill a palestinian man like okay don't know why you're doing this yeah

00:08:21.940 yeah by accident yeah it's like well okay the iranians did say um as they usually said like this

00:08:29.380 is this is it that's the last straw yeah every time every single time we're raising the red flag of

00:08:35.460 revenge now okay well bad luck individual palestinian man standing on the street you know unless they have

00:08:41.300 already got nuclear weapons but we'll get into that in a moment um i think we'll know about it

00:08:46.100 um well yeah um they apparently they fired back something in the order of 100 drones oh yeah and

00:08:52.580 i'm not sure any of them got through to israel okay so the iron dome was it yeah so the iron dome seems

00:08:58.340 to be quite effective doing its job quite well i mean so far iran did send that flurry of missiles

00:09:05.540 was it earlier this year or later at them and i think yeah yeah the one palestinian yeah standing

00:09:10.820 on the street again a couple got through but didn't really do anything except to that one poor guy that

00:09:15.940 it landed well they they they seem to specifically target unoccupied areas it's all that that was

00:09:22.020 that was probably like testing right see if we fire however many however many will get through

00:09:27.380 it's a future if we need to but it's it's a lot like the it's a lot like the india pakistan thing

00:09:32.580 neither i don't think the iranians actually want war they just have to save face and so the israelis

00:09:39.220 i think actually do want war and so the iranians have got to kind of like rattle their saber back

00:09:43.700 but they don't want this well i imagine that they don't when you've got like lindsey graham and others

00:09:47.940 already going all right time time for the bloodbath guys need to bathe in the blood of iranians says

00:09:53.620 lindsey graham like hands on his cheeks just like what's wrong with you psycho how does this

00:09:59.300 establish american security american security yeah talking about what yeah you said anything

00:10:05.380 about that yeah exactly um yeah well okay let's mention um um the american response uh actually

00:10:12.580 samson can you get that the link of trump's true social uh so america were uh uh uh said yeah very

00:10:20.660 quickly we had nothing to do with this i believe it to be honest yeah probably didn't yeah probably

00:10:25.700 didn't um and a lot of the world's leaders in the west like our prime minister calling for restraint

00:10:34.020 like like the netanyahu or the ayatollah are going to listen to that well i mean it's the same as when

00:10:40.820 labor came out with a declaration that israel needs to stop what it's doing in gaza and they

00:10:46.900 carried on doing what they're doing what leverage do you have david lammy his words went unheeded i can't

00:10:52.260 believe it um so donald trump said this quote i gave iran chance after chance to make a deal i told

00:10:58.500 them in the strongest of words to just do it make a deal but no matter how hard they tried no matter

00:11:03.780 how close they got they just couldn't get it done i told them it would be much worse than anything they

00:11:08.580 know anticipated or were told that the united states makes the best and most lethal military

00:11:14.180 equipment anywhere in the world by far and that israel has a lot of it and much more to come and they

00:11:19.780 know how to use it certain iranian hardliners spoke bravely but they didn't know what was about to

00:11:24.020 happen they're all dead now and and it will only get worse there has already been great death and

00:11:29.780 destruction but there's still time to make this slaughter with the next already planned attacks

00:11:34.100 being even more brutal to come to an end iran must make a deal before there is nothing left

00:11:39.700 and save what was once known as the iranian empire no more death no more destruction

00:11:43.780 just do it before it's too late god bless you all so trump sounds like a man who is not in control of

00:11:49.780 his pitbull right that's yeah that sounds like that yeah he's just look just lay down and he won't hurt

00:11:57.620 you you know that's what he's saying i can't control them you know it's they've got loads of stuff they're

00:12:03.780 going to carry on we've got apparently no rain on them so yeah we've already sold them all the hardware

00:12:12.260 yeah well i mean a little bit ago there was those news reports coming about some potential rift

00:12:17.380 between netanyahu and trump cut off communication so could this be a consequence of that or or is

00:12:26.260 there or has there been a reconciliation gone on since then no idea but it just seems that what

00:12:31.300 trump is saying is america doesn't have any control over israel yeah i mean we did a segment with um

00:12:37.220 ferez a week or two ago talking about some of the uh the breaks between dc and jerusalem yeah and

00:12:46.100 there have been some yeah certainly again normally trump's a lot more sort of i'm the guy in charge

00:12:53.060 about these things yeah and he he sounds very much like yeah well this is out of my control good luck

00:12:58.500 and he seems actually kind of sympathetic to the iranians here actually well i don't think that's a

00:13:02.100 lie we tried to make a deal with yeah i believe it again and again and they just sort of wouldn't

00:13:07.220 well okay it gets to that point of the question of should iran be allowed allowed should they be

00:13:15.220 allowed to have nuclear weapons i mean it's not wise i agree with that it's not wise but then i mean

00:13:24.260 essentially what we what we're asking ourselves is is the western empire

00:13:28.180 are we an imperial project is israel an imperial project not just israel is one part of the imperial

00:13:34.980 project that is the sort of you know the the collective west and if we are then we are going

00:13:39.380 to have to start essentially imposing on other countries no you're just not allowed to do that

00:13:42.820 we're going to make sure you can't then like a completely independent part of it though and they

00:13:47.540 do also have their own independent they've got all of our equipment they do they do have their own

00:13:52.980 territorial aims as well outside like um grabbing a lot of the territory that currently

00:13:57.940 composes like north egypt is this israel yeah all right um israel it's the concept of a greater

00:14:03.940 israel yeah they have they have that so well yeah but that's the point are we an imperial project or

00:14:09.860 are we uh the international liberal order you know so the international liberal order has got nothing

00:14:15.140 no way to say that iran can't have nukes but the imperial projects and they absolutely you can't

00:14:19.380 have nukes you know how dare you even think of it and we're going to just come in and make sure it

00:14:23.220 doesn't happen so i mean they have said i mean they have said that they over years that they would

00:14:30.020 roll with israelians and see if they could they refer to the americans as the great satan they

00:14:33.780 refer to britain as like the wily old fox this is the terrier who's the gates finally open and you've

00:14:40.340 gone in and booted him in the face and suddenly she's just found out oh wait you know i am just a tiny

00:14:45.860 yappy dog because iran is not a powerful state right like otherwise the mullahs wouldn't constantly

00:14:52.340 be rattling their sabers and then tucking their tails between their legs like they'd be doing

00:14:56.500 things it wouldn't be funding terrorism they'd be rolling out armies and then again there is that

00:15:01.700 argument of uh why shouldn't they have nuclear weapons if they're an independent power yeah i mean

00:15:08.980 that's how i feel about it i'm only playing devil's advocate yeah i know i would rather

00:15:12.660 they don't i would rather no countries do to be perfectly honest if there had to be one no i

00:15:17.620 think we should but they shouldn't i think i think england alone should have nukes yeah okay not britain

00:15:23.780 just england yeah just england so that the scots will know their place yeah i don't know whilst getting

00:15:28.020 any ideas either um but the the the point being this is the thing like there's no point appealing to

00:15:33.620 a fair standard by which everyone can be judged in this because this is not how this works right

00:15:38.420 we're we're talking about no we're the people who are powerful and you're not so what's the

00:15:43.540 settlement going to be and the iranians uh they're speaking in the sort of thematic sense where they're

00:15:48.500 like oh we are the proud nation of iran it's okay but practically speaking there's nothing you can do

00:15:53.700 about this and israel has been bullying you for decades and now they're going to bully you some more

00:15:58.180 because of the way that you think you're above your station basically and unless you just

00:16:04.420 essentially knock on the head they're going to keep bullying you i mean the ayatollah came out

00:16:10.260 and said made a statement didn't he saying something like uh iran uh israel will pay for this yeah i'll

00:16:16.420 guess i'll get his exact statement if you want they've locked in their sort of disastrous future

00:16:20.660 for themselves and all that sort of thing so quick word then about um i mean israel themselves have said

00:16:25.460 that iran have now got enough weapons grade uranium to make nine nukes but israel have been saying for

00:16:33.220 years that iran are one day away i'm exaggerating but they're very very close to having nukes we've

00:16:38.100 got to confront them now do you believe them the same was since the 90s right yeah right and it's

00:16:43.860 like yeah i'm sure they have been even the iaea are saying that uh whether they're truly independent

00:16:49.140 or not but even they have been saying no iran has got highly enriched uranium now i mean i don't mean

00:16:55.940 to laugh because this is water it's not funny but khameini's tweets are just kind of hilarious

00:17:01.060 uh with this crime the zionist regime has prepared itself for a bitter painful fate which it will

00:17:06.740 definitely see so you don't have to add that on the end if it's definitely going to happen right

00:17:12.580 which it will definitely see it's like it's not going to see it right it's not that's not going

00:17:16.580 to happen right you're not going to do anything yeah i mean maybe maybe i don't know yeah only the

00:17:23.300 future will tell but um yeah but like we've got a long past of them not doing anything well here's the

00:17:29.940 thing uh one thing to note can anyone even israel prevent iran from making nuclear weapons because

00:17:37.380 a lot of their scientists because a lot of their um facilities are underground deep underground deep

00:17:44.900 inside mountains basically um how can you how can you really stop them you can maybe slow them down

00:17:52.340 for years but if you've got enough of those centrifuges um enriching uranium yeah i mean maybe

00:17:58.100 enough underground bases and maybe when the jinns are all in agreement that finally iran can have

00:18:02.900 nukes but like if you look at the tweets they're just ridiculous and these are these are statements

00:18:07.060 of a profoundly weak regime like they say that zionist regime should anticipate a severe punishment

00:18:12.020 okay what what decade are we anticipating the severe punishment because you've been saying these exact

00:18:16.500 words literally since i was a kid by god's grace the powerful arm of the islamic republic's armed

00:18:21.700 forces won't let them go ahead unpunished nothing happens nothing ever happens like they talk like

00:18:28.260 this all the time like they are like the persian empire and they're you know woe betide greece

00:18:34.260 and then nothing happens and a few more iranian scientists or generals or whoever get assassinated

00:18:39.540 decades after decades after decades i don't i don't take anything they say seriously

00:18:44.500 uh so far that is exactly that is a that is a correct description isn't it i mean i think so

00:18:53.220 so carl's going all in on nothing i'm not i'm not saying nothing will happen i'm saying the

00:18:57.380 ira the israelis just keep bombing them and assassinating people and the iranians will just

00:19:01.540 go well that's that's the way life goes you know i will tweet god will punish israel so yeah because

00:19:07.540 you can't so you know what now there's an interesting little tidbit i thought a data point was

00:19:14.260 that apparently last night the pizza index was up yeah around the pentagon dc area uh pizza big

00:19:22.500 pizza deliveries went up yeah suggesting that everyone at the pentagon suddenly realized they're

00:19:27.060 in for an all-nighter yeah um which does suggest they weren't necessarily clued in to what was about

00:19:31.860 to happen yeah i think that israel is i mean one of the complaints of the left about israel is they're

00:19:37.380 essentially a rogue state and no one has any uh control over them and that seems to be kind of true

00:19:41.700 hmm yeah yeah it seems that trump's just like look man i wish i could stop it but there's nothing i

00:19:46.580 can do okay so israel hit uh loads of different places and as we said at the top of the segment

00:19:54.340 it's sort of still ongoing yeah yeah yeah i don't know if and when they'll ever stop we've got uh

00:20:00.660 faraz doing a daily segment on it right a daily daily video so we'll see what he's got to say his

00:20:06.340 takes on it as well um uh but yeah it seems like the gloves the gloves are well and truly off

00:20:13.220 from netanyahu's point of view iran this is a declaration of war yeah it is now what yeah um

00:20:20.180 how many men are you mobilizing yeah i mean can you imagine iran putting together a foreign expeditionary

00:20:28.580 force and sailing all the way round from the persian gulf up through the suez to israel's

00:20:33.620 sea border in in the mediterranean and launching an amphibious assault onto israel no right that's

00:20:39.860 not happening is it that's not happening i mean and the thing is as well there's the the problem

00:20:43.940 the iranian regime has is that they're deeply unpopular in iran that's literally like keir starmer

00:20:49.620 i mean i i i we looked it up actually didn't we yeah um it'd be literally like keir starmer being like

00:20:55.300 right guys we're going to go to war with france or whatever it's like i'm not fine for you

00:20:58.580 and if you look like it's it's something like only 33 percent of iranians actually identify as

00:21:06.020 being muslim and so it's like okay and then you've got 85 percent there who don't support the islamic

00:21:12.500 republic and it's like yeah get exactly the same way that like only 15 percent of people actually like

00:21:18.900 keir starmer only like 15 20 percent of people in iran actually like the mullahs so they can't

00:21:25.460 afford to go to war because if they're like fragile power base is damaged by uh israel and

00:21:32.660 they have to rely on the people to actually start doing stuff in defense of their regime

00:21:36.820 the people like actually i'm not going to do that you know i'm going to let your region collapse

00:21:41.140 actually i don't care i hate you absolutely true i mean that uh pie chart speaks volumes but then

00:21:46.980 there's that also that thing that when you're attacked it brings you together though as well

00:21:51.780 doesn't it so possibly and that is that is one theory but i just i just don't see it in the case

00:21:58.420 of iran i mean maybe i'm wrong i don't know yeah maybe maybe suddenly everyone like right defend the

00:22:04.660 mullahs but i mean you're right also as well as saying they would roll his round to the sea if they

00:22:10.020 got a chance they've also said that our nuclear program is just for peaceful purposes only but then

00:22:16.500 yeah but then they won't let um like the iaea see everything as well at the same time so um

00:22:26.740 i don't care what they say because everything they say is nonsense

00:22:30.740 i think it all is just a big front to cover the fact that they're profoundly weak and they've been

00:22:35.460 bullied basically into oblivion by israel and nothing's going to happen from their point of view

00:22:40.100 they're just like yep we're just going to keep tweeting well i mean watch this space we'll see what

00:22:44.420 happens over the coming days and and even weeks uh one of the last points i just wanted to mention

00:22:49.380 is sort of just the wider picture um there's hardly anyone in the world that benefits from iran having

00:22:57.140 a nuclear capability like saudi certainly don't want it right russia don't benefit from it really

00:23:06.980 despite my enemy's enemy and all that thing the same goes for china yeah there's my enemy's enemy

00:23:11.940 angle but it's not actually in their interest for tehran to have nukes so

00:23:20.820 i can't see for example i can't see iran putting together some sort of big coalition

00:23:27.060 right to fight back against this it's them versus israel

00:23:31.620 and the rest of the world has to sort of just sit back and watch it it's interesting how the rest

00:23:35.220 of the world's gonna look they're not my fight bro yeah yeah you get you get paris or london saying

00:23:39.540 stop please stop yeah and even dc saying better make a deal bro but in the meantime there's nothing

00:23:46.100 we can do in the meantime the engaged few good point trump's statement sounds like a good cop bad cop

00:23:51.300 scenario it kind of does you know it kind of does um sigil stone says why not let iran have nukes

00:23:58.340 pakistan does and they're way more insane than iran i don't know the i mean the mullahs are pretty

00:24:02.500 mental in pakistan's pretty mental yeah so i mean good point to be honest um israel is an acting

00:24:09.780 common sense nuke control yeah good point um and uh grooming gang convictions on the front page of bbc

00:24:15.700 news what timeline is this again well it's a bit off topic but uh let's let's carry on um so i'm of

00:24:22.500 the opinion that we should just ban only fans right at this point i've just decided that actually only

00:24:28.100 fans is an attack on the public morality and it is allowing the impression of britain and british women

00:24:37.620 to be severely damaged actually uh it is definitely not good for social cohesion it's not good for the

00:24:47.140 concept of our own sense of dignity uh and and only fans as a company itself has every incentive to

00:24:56.660 promote the idea that as many women as possible are on it yeah to try and normalize it so that

00:25:02.660 your daughters think that it's normal so when they hit 18 they think to themselves hey i know

00:25:06.980 how to make some easy money yeah that's that's the whole business model yeah it's it's really really

00:25:12.580 horrible actually um and there's there's no reason we actually have to permit this either

00:25:17.300 because we don't have to allow this uh this has all been inspired of course by louise perry's

00:25:22.340 article about uh only fans uh why only fans has young british women its grip now she she says in

00:25:27.780 here quote britain is host to 280 000 creator accounts on only fans giving this one yeah i think

00:25:35.380 it was that much it will will come to the numbers because they're a bit sus okay all right um they're

00:25:39.780 quite contentious and yeah sourced very well yeah um uh 84 of these accounts run by women and they are

00:25:46.500 all between 18 and 34 mostly uh we can estimate that about four percent of young british women are

00:25:51.860 therefore selling their way as an only fans that has a lot um i've never actually clicked on any

00:25:57.940 fans in my life no no is it all sex stuff because i was under the impression that you can go on only

00:26:03.780 fans and just show anything like your your business or it didn't start looking for new revenue

00:26:12.340 how much skin do i need to show asks bo i i understand that technically it's not required to be a

00:26:18.260 prostitute well okay here's here's some information which is that people keep calling it a uk or british

00:26:25.700 owned business and i believe that when it was started originally uh it was started by like an

00:26:32.180 essex lad and his dad or his brothers or homegrown british success story yeah prostituting women in 2018

00:26:39.060 it was sold to a foreign company it's not a british owned business anymore because i've seen people throw

00:26:44.260 that it was just a good british idea well no it was it was taken over uh by a company called like

00:26:50.820 felix international or something who were run by a guy wholly owned by a guy called leonard radvinsky

00:26:57.860 who is a um ukrainian american oh yeah um and it was after he took over that it started to push itself as

00:27:07.060 a site for people to make their own uh adult content right interesting uh so anyway this

00:27:14.260 this uh article focuses around one creator too late sigil stone sorry yeah one creator called bonnie

00:27:20.820 blue uh you're probably aware of bonnie blue uh apparently she told an interviewer last year quote

00:27:26.420 i used to work an office job nine to five sit in rush hour getting uh get given 20 days annual leave

00:27:31.700 and for a while i accepted that i was like okay this is what life is this is as good as it can get

00:27:36.660 it's okay but that's that's not bad for like she's in her early 20s right that's that's not bad and you

00:27:42.740 move up as you know you you build yourself you improve you you gain uh and instead she decides you

00:27:49.060 know i don't have to do this so she moved with her she she moved with her husband originally i'll get

00:27:54.900 i'll get to the more details uh moved to australia left her husband and pursued a new business idea

00:27:59.460 having sex with hundreds in her words of barely legal teenage boys and uploading the footage to only fans

00:28:06.340 uh to sell i see i mean yeah but also there's a reason that every single religion under the sun

00:28:15.860 has put sort of hard hardline proscriptions on women's personal behavior right and this is this

00:28:21.540 is the meme is real and it's because one or two one or two women will make it so that you kind of have

00:28:28.260 to right this this can't be allowed this this just can't be allowed she says quote i wanted a better

00:28:33.620 life is that a better life is that a better life is it that's disgusting uh she's now uh world famous

00:28:40.340 for the escalating depravity of her stunts she was planning to host what she called a petting zoo event

00:28:46.260 this weekend in which as many as 2 000 men would be given sexual access to her over 24 hours all on

00:28:51.140 camera she was going to be in some sort of cage blindfolded and gagged and just these men to be allowed

00:28:55.860 allowed to do anything they want to like what are we doing folks what are we allowing here like i i

00:29:01.780 get a lot of people being like well you know we need an oliver cromwell for the government it's like

00:29:05.620 yeah and we also need one for society okay like i mean sadly i'm turning into a puritan sadly nick

00:29:13.140 buckley thanks nick uh has put some of the previous stunts on on the twitter timeline before and uh and also

00:29:21.540 there was the whole lily phillips thing where they were showing footage of the queue for these events

00:29:27.940 typically the men showing up to these events are not not it's just men not classically british shall we

00:29:35.060 say which makes sense because if there is one thing uh that is very clear about bonnie blue just

00:29:40.420 looking at her in this image even is that she is a right minger i i also don't find she's gross

00:29:47.460 anyway uh she has the stare this is an article from back in january where um it's like it's not

00:29:55.860 it's not that bad is zoo still open this weekend it's not ugly yeah where do i sign up i'll be

00:30:01.860 number man 2001 no i'm joking of course i'm joking but standing at the back of the queue with a bouquet

00:30:08.580 of flowers i can change her a box of chocolates i can save her um no i did i did hear one of these

00:30:20.420 things i forget so vile i'm only joking i wouldn't i don't want venereal disease so that was a joke

00:30:26.100 i forget that one it was whether it was her or the other one but i did hear that one of them had

00:30:30.900 some guy in the queue who had chocolates and flowers who wasn't intending to do anything just

00:30:36.100 wanted to give her i don't maybe maybe he thought he was going to save her oh my god king of the simps

00:30:45.140 and it was there was after the lily phillips thing when that clip get went around of her

00:30:49.220 crying after she realized oh my god i'm a disgusting pig um there was also the behind the scenes of like

00:30:55.780 here's the camera guy who was here all day and filmed the whole thing and he looked like he'd been

00:31:00.820 through vietnam a thousand yard stare yeah like like the the the guy in world war one where it's

00:31:06.100 just his face has aged 20 years over two the guy that saw all the fighting on the eastern front yeah

00:31:12.500 he's aged 20 years in three jesus um far be it from me to play defense for this but okay stop there

00:31:21.140 all i'm gonna say is there's a few things that humans do which is almost impossible to ban

00:31:26.740 prostitution is the oldest profession in the world if you try and ban alcohol yep they will just

00:31:32.260 they'll people will do it anyway if you try and ban fighting or boxing they'll just it'll just go

00:31:35.860 underground yeah um and i'm not saying that we should try and ban those things what she is free

00:31:41.540 to be a disgusting degenerate pig yes but but should she be able to become a multi-millionaire doing this

00:31:47.540 okay well no no it's the question it's not even that i don't see that same argument as it applies to

00:31:53.620 online pornography websites like only fans where as i mentioned the entire business model

00:31:59.780 is predicated on convincing young women to that it's normal and fine and uh and profitable to become

00:32:07.540 whores as early in their lives as possible right and so the the argument is always well it'll pop up

00:32:14.420 elsewhere i mean not necessarily if it's a platform online you can stamp those things out or you can

00:32:22.260 apply laws that force them to put different um uh uh gatekeeping measures in place like what

00:32:30.500 happened with some of the states in america where they forced porn hub to put in an age age

00:32:36.100 verification and all of a sudden porn hub because their entire business model is getting like 11 year

00:32:42.500 olds to watch porn uh they pulled out immediately they were like all right we'll just ip block any state

00:32:47.940 that has those laws because we don't want we we don't want to live in a world where 11 year olds

00:32:54.020 can't have instant access to the free most hardcore disgusting degenerate shit ever produced in human

00:33:02.100 history so we'll carry on so apparently bonnie blue says she makes between 600 000 and 1.5 million a month

00:33:09.220 a month a month again that's the market i mean i'm it's horrible i don't i wish what does oliver

00:33:15.220 cromwell think of the market bow does oliver cromwell care about the market you know no

00:33:22.420 let's not let men off the hook here well that's what was my point that was my point it's like

00:33:26.820 she is doing something gross okay you think oliver cromwell's gonna let men off the hook

00:33:30.660 no you know i'm i'm completely happy with us punishing every man who has an only fans account

00:33:35.780 it's totally fine um the the whole thing i honestly is really making me insanely right

00:33:41.620 wing just reading about this i'm gonna go through some more it's seriously i'm just i'm i'm finding

00:33:46.100 myself becoming quite unforgiving because the thing is i i do actually take your point about like

00:33:50.500 prostitution alcohol the sort of like the normal vices you know it's like i can see like why there

00:33:57.220 would be a sort of marginal space for that right it's like if you've got some guy who's like in

00:34:02.100 his 40s he's never had the touch of a woman okay i can see why you would go to a prostitute right

00:34:06.020 if you've got a man who's like wife is disabled or something and she can't say okay i can see why

00:34:10.420 you'd do that but like i mean if he's if he's married i think you make yeah but if she's like

00:34:15.460 disabled and she's like no go you know because i can't or whatever i don't know whatever they

00:34:18.580 whatever make up a story right there's going to be some sort of fringe marginal case in which you can

00:34:23.380 see why consenting adults could exchange money and and that wouldn't be evil but this you know

00:34:29.940 multi-millionaire prostitutes who are like broadcasting it yeah going on marketing campaigns

00:34:35.140 because that's what these stunts are they're marketing campaigns absolutely presumably handled

00:34:39.620 and managed by people behind the scenes as well and i mentioned this in the office when we were

00:34:44.020 talking about this earlier the problem with these kinds of stunts and the problem with

00:34:48.180 online pornography being as freely and easily available as it is in the first place

00:34:52.180 is that these stunts only work once yeah and they have to up the ads they have to keep getting

00:34:57.700 more and more extreme which is how we've got to this point yeah and that's the problem with

00:35:01.220 internet porn as well just because of the fact that you get desensitized to it and people develop

00:35:06.180 all new disgusting and weird fetishes just because they don't get off on the normal stuff anymore it's a

00:35:13.540 really horrible feedback loop yeah so i i thought we'd um i thought we'd keep going into this right

00:35:18.900 because this is how this began right so her and her husband moved to australia's gold coast and she

00:35:24.020 was like i want a break from the nine to five grind so it's like i mean she's married to a you know to

00:35:29.300 a high school sweetheart so you know she'd she'd met this guy when she was in school they'd fallen in

00:35:35.060 love they'd got married moved to the gold coast he got a face tattoo yeah i don't think that's him

00:35:39.940 that's not him they broke up but she she she was inspired by tiktok videos of women doing cam girl

00:35:46.660 work so inspired your wife's like i'm inspired to become an online prostitute so i've seen other

00:35:51.540 women doing it you're like what no of course you're not again that's that's the business model though

00:35:56.500 get women to promote it to other women as empowerment as profitable this will be you taking

00:36:02.660 control of your sexuality and retarded women will go yes me being a whore is empowering and for some

00:36:09.540 reason her partner was like yeah why not that sounds like a good idea because she felt that

00:36:13.860 quote she was not pretty enough which i agree with and the people wouldn't want to watch me but her

00:36:17.940 partner ollie reassured her no you're beautiful do it it's like why are you turning your wife into a

00:36:21.540 prostitute man what a simp why why are you prostituting your own wife and soon she was earning five grand a

00:36:27.460 week but her relationship eventually crumbled if you can believe that can you believe that that

00:36:32.740 actually damaged their relationship what a shark and now she spends her time like literally having

00:36:39.380 sex with a thousand men in a day it's like okay this is not exactly a good example is it

00:36:45.780 well am i wrong to feel the spirit of oliver cromwell inhabiting me at this point the other

00:36:50.340 thing that always springs to mind whenever i hear of these things is how is she not dead already of

00:36:55.780 vd i don't know how is i can't explain it how maybe it's like the mr burns thing where like they're

00:37:02.580 all stuck in the door i don't i don't know i haven't got any i haven't got any answer to this

00:37:08.020 right but we'll carry on because this is just i just hate everything about this and it just makes

00:37:13.940 me want to impose some kind of tyrannical puritanical regime right so we've got this so totally disgusting

00:37:22.260 her and her husband totally disgusting uh shouldn't have done this obviously right and so she ended

00:37:29.380 her marriage in 2021 uh her parents are seemingly unfazed by her risk a career path so weird it's

00:37:35.940 disgusting it's weird enough that your own husband's like go for it but your parents in the stocks in the

00:37:41.060 stocks in the stocks all of you like absolutely vile um this makes me no i i shouldn't because i don't

00:37:50.180 want to say anything that could land me in a court of law because this makes me suspicious of

00:37:54.980 uh anyway anyway bonnie says she takes pride in the support she receives from her family

00:38:00.980 who are not just proud but actively involved in her career i can't even imagine i got two daughters

00:38:06.900 i would be involved in any are they the ones coming up with the stunts uh she doesn't say but

00:38:13.460 i mean i would assume that her parents if they're that involved are either the management or heavily

00:38:18.900 involved with the manager yeah no they they definitely at which point yeah they would be

00:38:23.140 potentially coming up with the stunts in which case imagine it don't imagine actually somebody

00:38:29.300 somebody saying to their own daughter oh yeah why don't you become a sexual petting zoo for 2000 men

00:38:35.540 over the weekend yeah yeah her own dad i'm sorry you should be launched into the ocean without a life raft

00:38:42.340 you should have horrible things done to you in the stocks i should have your hard drives checked

00:38:48.100 and you should be investigated but the fact that her own parents can do this to her they're obviously

00:38:52.580 getting paid from this right so their own parents are basically yeah no we'll just pimp her out right

00:38:56.340 a hundred in one day those are rookie numbers pop it let's do 2000 yeah yeah yeah you should hear

00:39:01.220 how much of a whore your mother used to be well i bet she wasn't that's the thing you know like but

00:39:06.740 anyway like this i just hate this so much bonnie shared the joy her dad felt her being recognized

00:39:12.820 for a photo and their keenness to participate in her tiktok videos it's like this is disgusting

00:39:18.660 what are you doing like honestly i would mercilessly put these people in jail um bonnie said quote my

00:39:25.220 family is so proud of me my dad loved it when someone came up to me and asked me for a photo the

00:39:29.060 other day they've even been on my tiktoks her mother sarah has appeared on her various podcast

00:39:33.140 platforms including this particular one uh on one show sarah expressed immense pride in her

00:39:38.100 daughter's professional pursuits it explains how she assists with bonnie's job i just yeah it's

00:39:46.020 mind-boggling is there an element of cope to it though like i don't know i mean it doesn't sound

00:39:50.500 like cope it sounds disgusting right and so when when bonnie bonnie uh points out that actually

00:39:56.340 everyone she knew hates her now right because when she was at school she was quite conservative and

00:40:00.740 quite normal and a bit shy and uh so basically everyone thinks she's awful now because she is

00:40:08.500 i wouldn't want to be near her no no it's disgusting imagine the smell well i don't want to thank you

00:40:13.780 um but the but the point is what what she's doing here is attacking people's relationships i mean did

00:40:17.860 you see the tiktok that was going around the other day of this young young woman who's like my my

00:40:22.020 boyfriend went to this thing where she shagged a thousand guys in a day like that's her relationship

00:40:27.780 ruined i have seen people share those clips where she's said what is it i want i want brothers sons

00:40:35.540 dads husbands boyfriends to attend these things so yeah she is actively saying she's saying put on a

00:40:41.940 mask so they don't see your face on camera and you know cheat it's disgusting it's absolutely but the

00:40:48.820 point is she's she's actively ruining other women's relationships by just giving into the most

00:40:54.180 based instincts that men have and don't get me wrong all of these men are gross as well obviously

00:40:59.380 but there's not really any point in complaining about them because they're not the gatekeepers

00:41:02.740 of whether this happens or not right none of these men can make this happen without her say so so she's

00:41:07.700 the one who's got to take responsibility for the decision so you know okay yeah the men are all gross

00:41:12.100 but like who cares you know like everyone knows the the point being is that she says uh there's been a lot of

00:41:19.140 judgment and jealousy jealousy i doubt it's much jealousy but they're like why are you debasing

00:41:24.500 yourself like this uh and i had an old friend come up to me and say i have no respect for myself and i

00:41:29.220 don't deserve any in return and another close friend tell me how her friends think she shouldn't

00:41:33.380 be friends with me anymore agreed absolutely agreed you're going out of your way to destroy

00:41:38.420 other people's relationships why would you want a relationship with that person right well in the

00:41:42.020 friendships as well there's the worry from lots of people that you'd try and encourage your friends

00:41:46.020 do the same thing that you are it's an example to others and she says though i don't mind they

00:41:51.620 are judging me for having a multi-million dollar business while they live with their parents and

00:41:55.380 have to work for someone else so pure materialism right she is just a sack of flesh there's nothing

00:42:03.220 sacred there's nothing special about her there's nothing important and my god this is what i was

00:42:08.900 talking about in the death of man right i'm sorry i'd rather have i'd rather be living with my parents

00:42:14.500 than have of course you have them manage an only fans account for me yes i think that's a pretty

00:42:19.940 simple uh solution for me i'm not sure if galileo and kent had bonnie blue in mind when they no they

00:42:27.300 didn't but this is where it ends up that's the problem with all of this is that this went when once

00:42:33.140 you have desacralized the material world even man himself becomes just a sack of meat and if you see

00:42:41.780 nothing important nothing dignified about yourself nothing that is in some way uh morally important

00:42:48.900 which bonnie blue doesn't about herself and her own sexuality then you get to the point where like why

00:42:53.780 why don't i just put myself in a cage and let 2000 guys do whatever they want to me and it's just like

00:42:58.260 yeah that's where we end up because there's nothing restraining that all of the things that we're

00:43:02.900 complaining about the moral complaints are non-material complaints right they're complaints about dignity and

00:43:08.980 sanctity that we're invoking here about how women should uh uphold their own sense of self

00:43:16.340 but it's not material i mean she's not being hurt by doing this she's just absolutely i mean it's

00:43:20.500 where one particular it's where one particular psycho ended up sure yeah but it's not i don't think

00:43:27.060 no but it's not just one particular cycle this is just the particular example of a cycle i don't

00:43:30.260 think it's particularly hard baked into kepler's geometry that we end up with bonnie blue well i'm

00:43:36.340 afraid i think it is actually and that's the problem it the the issue is that once the universe

00:43:42.020 is desacralized even man himself as a part of the universe becomes desacralized and okay at the moment

00:43:47.220 we're like you know five years into only fans or whatever it is and we've already got like rampant

00:43:51.940 giga whores and this is just this is just one example of many apparently there are 280 000 of them

00:43:57.300 right but one thing that was funny was the other only fans whores were calling her out on this oh yeah

00:44:03.940 saying that this is gross and disgusting you're making us all look bad listen you know i was just

00:44:10.820 a normal only fans whore but this this is freak behavior right here but this is the precise point

00:44:18.020 that i've been making in the death of man and the thing is it goes it goes further than this as well

00:44:23.460 because then you get the elites being like yeah no good point we're in bonnie blues britain

00:44:27.940 right it's the economist it is the world yeah and so it's you know the the the influential like

00:44:33.380 outlets will say things like yeah it a bonnie blues britain is a place of sin spin and soft power it's

00:44:38.660 like are you mental soft power being international influence so and and uh optics internationally so

00:44:46.340 what they're saying is along with the fact that she's her and lily phillips and all of these ones are

00:44:50.740 always all over uh twitter timelines because people are constantly sharing this stuff as rage bait

00:44:55.300 uh they get articles in the daily mail they get articles in the local they get interviewed

00:45:00.420 everywhere they get interviewed everywhere now they're in the economist now they're being spoken

00:45:03.940 about in the spectator as well again internationally when you talk about the fighting age hordes of men

00:45:10.580 that are coming over to this country this is how they treat our women this is this is what they're

00:45:15.380 thinking especially when you have platforms like the spectator spreading this number saying it's 280 000

00:45:22.260 four percent of young women the international view of british girls is going to be that they're all

00:45:28.420 disgusting whores who are well up for it and this is precisely what the economists are saying right

00:45:33.460 they're literally saying britain is just a whoremongering place right they say quote bonnie

00:45:38.900 blues strengths are britain's strengths we we are just an island of prostitutes that are prostituting

00:45:44.740 ourselves out to the entire world we are exactly like these girls these girls are a perfect reflection of

00:45:49.300 us and honestly are they wrong that's the question this stuff serves as an extended advertisement as

00:45:55.460 well so similarly obscenity laws i'd smack them down with it as well because you're basically yeah

00:46:01.060 you're advertising it yeah i just want this whole thing shut down people need to be punished billions

00:46:06.020 i agree i totally agree like and people are like why why why have you turned into oliver cromwell what

00:46:11.780 are you doing this is for the the safety of my daughters so this never happens to them right and

00:46:16.340 even if they even if they think they want it i don't agree that they want it i don't care i'm not

00:46:21.540 going to let it happen that's how i would be approaching this right but they point out that

00:46:25.140 obviously uh smut scuzz and sin are fixtures of the british economy tobacco companies gambling

00:46:31.220 companies booze companies oh yeah yeah having having a cheeky cigarette for five minutes during

00:46:35.940 work is basically the same yeah as letting yourself be bound and gagged in a cage for over a weekend

00:46:41.780 it's the same leftist narrative they've always peddled as much degeneracy as possible yeah i mean

00:46:46.820 there are still women in britain that that aren't this though there are plenty of course there are

00:46:52.500 right but the the so they're wrong it's not true well i don't know right as in if we permit

00:46:58.980 this can we say this is not an accurate reflection of ourselves you know the the i think the society

00:47:04.260 is defined by its excesses actually uh and so if we allow this i mean like you can complain about

00:47:09.940 the iranian mullahs all you like but they don't allow this the individuals aren't defined by are

00:47:14.260 they like there'll be there'll be trad british women out there that are just as disgusted by it as you

00:47:19.380 sure but why do they tolerate it get what you tolerate and you get more of what you tolerate

00:47:23.540 and if you tolerate this then you're going to get more of it and if you normalize it and make it

00:47:28.100 something that gets headlines and gets attention you're going to just incentivize people to do it so

00:47:32.500 no i think actually this is a fairly accurate representation of britain and this is why i'm probably going to

00:47:38.660 get my what was the haircut they used to have i'm going to get that haircut i i've just genuinely

00:47:43.780 arrived at the point where i'm just like this has to be done something has to be done i mean cromwellian

00:47:48.100 haircut yeah i'm sure there was a cromwellian haircut wasn't there sort of a bowl cut puritan yeah

00:47:54.340 i'm getting that uh but the point is only fans is worth seven billion dollars now and the only fans

00:48:00.500 owner is looking to sell of eight billion and it's like okay but is this the country we want to be

00:48:04.980 is this what this is what being a liberal country means just being an international prostitute according

00:48:09.220 to the economist in 2025 they tell us at the very last line if someone lies back and thinks of england

00:48:14.820 they may as well think of miss blue yeah okay now i'm totally on with cromwell i'm so i'm so glad

00:48:20.100 that some random just ukrainian american businessman could buy up this uh this company and then make

00:48:27.780 billions of profit off of whoring out other people's daughters i just can't stand it and like i said i'm

00:48:34.100 not even trying to be an extreme puritan about it i understand that you know oldest professional

00:48:37.300 that's all it's gross i agree with you i'm playing devil's advocate yeah yeah no no i but i i you

00:48:41.300 know i can accept but this is what it's doing to us so there has to be some sort of place in which

00:48:45.380 we intercede uh just a quick thing that the numbers are for some reason the thing i'm working the

00:48:49.780 numbers are a bit suspect uh apparently they come from a google spreadsheet uh that is probably not

00:48:55.540 reliable i mean it doesn't doesn't look very reliable to me yeah i i i gave i gave you these links so

00:49:00.980 yeah the source that it's attributed to is some google spreadsheet and if you track the sources

00:49:05.540 that the google spreadsheet uses it seems to refer back to a website which looks like some virus scam

00:49:12.260 website that says a free only fans with the little flame symbol next to it uh which even on the website

00:49:19.940 only lists 25 000 users which itself might not be accurate because it seems that at 25 000 that's the

00:49:27.300 cap of how many it lists so the number is completely nebulous and vague and we don't know really where

00:49:36.020 it's come from or how they've come to it and uh some of these people including um juice who's an

00:49:40.820 excellent poster on twitter have referenced a number of times before uh speculating that the likelihood is

00:49:45.940 these numbers are being given out by only fans themselves because as i mentioned their incentive is

00:49:52.740 to inflate the numbers to make it seem more normal to encourage more people onto the platform

00:49:58.180 anyway so uh yeah probably overblown it's still going to be way too many yeah it's going to be too

00:50:03.940 many but it's probably overblown uh but anyway bonnie blue uh got banned from only fans uh for saying that

00:50:10.980 she was uh going to do this 2000 men box cage stunt she was too degenerate yeah imagine being too degenerate for

00:50:20.580 only fans again just this is like a spokesman told metro quote extreme extreme challenge content is not

00:50:28.180 available on only fans is not permitted under our acceptable use policy uh any breach of the term

00:50:32.580 service gets uh gives your account deactivated uh so they actually were like no this is this is this is

00:50:40.980 there are there are still some limits to morality even on only fans right and it's like

00:50:46.820 even before the enlightenment you've got people like like messalina uh claudius's wife yeah had

00:50:53.460 a famously had a yeah same as justinians uh yeah theodora yeah um yeah messalina had a competition with

00:51:00.340 rome's most famous prostitute to sleep with as many men as possible so there's there i think there will

00:51:05.460 always be again i don't know why i'm playing defense i don't mean to be i'm just saying there will

00:51:09.860 always be sort of the very extreme yeah kind of insane in my opinion degenerates to be fair to what

00:51:16.500 the example you're giving elites historically have always been a bit disgusting with this stuff

00:51:22.260 and the cliche of the last days of rome yeah right and this is the last days of britain i mean like

00:51:27.220 there was a woman in turkey who's probably do the same she was just arrested publicly saying and

00:51:32.020 we could do the same right we actually could do the same because we actually have a series of laws

00:51:35.620 on the statutes that are to protect the public morality against indecency we actually could uh

00:51:41.860 enforce this right so you've got these obscene publications act of 1959 and 1964 which is to

00:51:48.020 prevent the distribution of material deemed obscene in that tends to deprave and corrupt yeah i think

00:51:53.460 you can argue that only fans is an example of attempting to deprave and corrupt the public morality

00:51:59.140 it's something you have to post online so you could use the uh 2003 communications act or you've got

00:52:05.380 the indecent displays control act of 1981 which respect restricts the public display of indecent

00:52:10.260 material likely to offend the public decency we have all of this on the books we could ban this

00:52:15.460 we could charge these women there's a cps failing to absolutely prosecution the public order i can't

00:52:21.780 believe that keir starmer didn't step in i well again he's got a daughter you know the public order

00:52:26.980 act protects public order and predict prep its conduct or speech likely to cause harassment alarm or

00:52:31.220 distress i think distress is a fairly uh acceptable thing to categorize this as like i'm not on with

00:52:37.860 this there are laws on the books that we could use to ban only fans and this behavior we should be

00:52:42.740 using them i think it's just gross it is just gross and for that reason we should ban it we should take

00:52:48.980 we should take a singapore approach to things that are gross yes you spat some gum in the street

00:52:54.900 arrested i i'm i'm just going you're gonna you're gonna blow your nose in the middle of this arrested

00:53:01.060 again weirdly like there's something about like the old way that prostitution was done that seems way

00:53:07.860 more wholesome than this you know what i mean they were certainly classier than these just this is just

00:53:12.420 disgusting there are just limits that you just anyway um bo should have an only fans to talk of

00:53:17.860 transparent graphene and space elevators um sean says didn't the bible warn of this uh so the victorian

00:53:23.860 men were right yes uh this makes me want to seize power and redacted uh i lack the words to express

00:53:29.780 the depths of disgust things a lot of us do that's the problem uh guys you will have to show in robotics

00:53:35.140 and robotic companions they do every sexual act and are starting to carry conversation oh god we won't

00:53:39.860 need women anymore boys yeah well this is lily phillips what's she gonna do to herself next uh imagine

00:53:45.060 her childhood i imagine her childhood wasn't healthy so the least well the thing is all of the reports are

00:53:49.460 that she grew up in a perfectly normal middle-class household right and uh parents she seems to

00:53:53.620 be fine with that you know she doesn't act as if her dad did anything or anything like that so

00:53:58.260 it's interesting like they nearly always say that about serial killers they must have been

00:54:02.740 abused and brutalized as a child sometimes yeah sometimes not sometimes you get a serial killer

00:54:08.420 like one of the most sadistic people ever to have lived and they had a perfectly reasonable normal

00:54:12.580 upbringing he sometimes uh yeah uh carl how soon will we set the resistance supply

00:54:19.460 routes from the us and harry get promoted to captain i know sorry i've got to skip through

00:54:22.660 these for time thank you uh the weimar republic was exactly like this minus the internet part

00:54:27.140 uh well it was it was pretty horrible yeah i have finished my script on that oh have you uh yeah and

00:54:36.020 it's been uh fact checked and read over by the appropriate people who were most qualified to do so

00:54:41.620 and so i'm gonna funny blue no i've been i i'm gonna film it soon as soon as my forehead is fully

00:54:48.340 healed and uh and then it will take who god knows how long but yeah on that point about the weimar

00:54:54.980 republic there is a striking parallel which is that because of the economic conditions of the weimar

00:54:59.940 republic particularly during the hyperinflation and then the great depression uh loads and loads of

00:55:05.620 people were forced into prostitution and it became including lots of children horrifyingly and it

00:55:12.020 became basically like a sexual playground berlin did for foreigners to just come in and use and abuse

00:55:20.580 the meat market however they wanted which is actually the lily phillips bonnie blue thing yeah who

00:55:26.100 are also mostly being pimped out by foreign elements themselves so it's no wonder that germans got a

00:55:32.820 little bit of a complex yeah after that sadly anyway um

00:55:39.620 kind of just want to die now thank you for that sorry i just we just should ban it i i felt

00:55:45.700 myself like it was ban the the callum slouch is what i found myself sinking into during that so thanks

00:55:53.220 we've got laws in the books we can do that anyway no reason to not enforce them uh so good news

00:55:58.100 gents we all know we're black let me hand out the passes i mean i think i actually should have

00:56:03.540 a pass to be honest probably to be honest but uh but yeah so uh we've always been black brits and

00:56:10.500 english how did we end up with blue eyes uh good question oh probably the anglo-saxon a good question

00:56:15.300 yeah who were also black uh so we were black back when we were cheddar man we were black when we were

00:56:20.980 roman citizens oh yeah and uh we were black back when we were tudors these are the narratives that we have

00:56:26.100 been told over and over and over again there are lots of strange books so is it about like 1800 would

00:56:32.100 become white what's in the in the left i don't think we ever did oh right okay it's very strange

00:56:37.140 that there are so many people of english descent who are white actually given given the historical

00:56:43.780 record that i've been taught yeah and that's what i'm going to talk about today which is the

00:56:48.580 some of the evidence for it i know we've spoken somewhat of in the past about cheddar man and then

00:56:53.460 the narrative surrounding the tudors as well uh there are books about that uh but today i want

00:56:58.740 to talk about one that beau's quite familiar with as well uh which is the ivory bangle lady

00:57:05.140 ivory bangle lady i don't know anything about who is a woman from the roman times during the roman

00:57:11.380 occupation of britain when we were roman britain who may have been from north africa uh which means that

00:57:17.780 she wasn't levantine or arab or anything like phoenician anything like that it means she black

00:57:25.860 because one of the most amusing things about um leftists is that they just see all of africa

00:57:31.620 sub-saharan africa it's not like there's this gigantic desert stretching across the northern part

00:57:37.380 of it that separates the peoples or anything black woman goes to italy black goes to britain black

00:57:43.300 like it's just all black yeah that's just how it works that's just how it works genetics really

00:57:49.140 are quite impressive that way uh but first watch the death of man carl's documentary it's doing very

00:57:54.740 well at the moment uh very glad to see this is the first in this kind of documentary style format that

00:58:00.260 we're going to try to do a little bit more of and uh so far it's been received very well premium

00:58:05.060 content subscribe to the website for as little as five pound for access to that i've got i've got a

00:58:09.540 great review of it from the comments oh go on a quote this was a spectacular dive into the spiritual

00:58:14.420 degradation of the human condition i'll probably need to listen to the second half two or three

00:58:18.500 times to fully grasp the depth of the tragedy of modernity i know well if that doesn't make you

00:58:25.220 want to watch it then nothing will uh so yeah we get this we get this narrative with all people of

00:58:32.100 european descent uh that vikings weren't all white is what peoples are going to be told this is a

00:58:39.380 charity guidance uh vikings were very diverse forget the fact that there is no evidence for

00:58:45.700 this whatsoever and on this one maybe we should let them have it yeah so a bunch of very diverse

00:58:50.340 people came and ravaged england yeah agreed we've been here before uh yeah it's not true though with

00:58:58.580 the vikings of of all the peoples of europe like the people in like the top northern part of it

00:59:05.940 where it goes into like the the arctic circle maybe the most isolated of anybody they're so

00:59:13.060 white they're almost blue yeah yeah it's so like it's almost transparent yeah but no they're black

00:59:19.220 and yet still very closely related to the english people so therefore given the english are black

00:59:24.820 must also be black do you remember when they found a muslim ring a ring with like the islamic

00:59:30.820 scripture of valor on it they're like oh they're muslims too yeah i agree they're diverse muslims who

00:59:34.580 are ravaging i mean they traded with of course they did they raided they raided everyone traded with

00:59:41.060 them uh so of course there's some stuff's going to show up it doesn't actually mean that no no

00:59:45.620 they're diverse muslims man i don't know what you're all right carl your diversity is showing through

00:59:51.380 right now carl i'm not saying i'm in favor of it what i'm saying is it kind of makes it look bad just

00:59:56.180 because there were i mean there's charles martel muslim armies in france like what the 8th century

01:00:02.260 or whatever uh yeah and trading with the muslim world ever since ever since the age of muhammad

01:00:08.420 more or less or the generation after that doesn't make vikings brown obviously or black or whatever

01:00:14.020 it's just pure nonsense yeah and this is cheddar man was one of our favorites uh yeah it's pure nonsense

01:00:19.380 the thing was with this that i think they looked into the the genes or isotopes or whatever that express

01:00:25.300 skin color and they determined shockingly that he must have had darker skin around this kind of skin

01:00:33.300 tone uh of course then it came out a month or two later that the technology that they were using

01:00:38.740 was basically so inaccurate as to be meaningless even if it was true that doesn't justify anyone

01:00:44.420 else from anywhere in the world having any claim to this because it was exactly that even if their skin

01:00:49.300 tone was that which it wasn't but that doesn't justify infinite somalians today well the thing that i

01:00:55.620 mentioned in a discussion about this on the daily channel was that well okay he was slightly darker

01:01:01.140 skin and then his descendants all developed slowly over the course of 10 000 years lighter skin because

01:01:08.900 the important word there is descendants yes and that does not mean that any of us are descended anywhere in

01:01:15.060 the last 10 000 years directly from sub-saharan africans who i mean i take a little bit more of

01:01:22.900 the separate origins thesis than the out of africa thesis because out of africa consistently seems to

01:01:29.300 be disproven when new evidence comes i've no idea but i don't care if like 300 000 years ago humans came

01:01:34.900 from africa look bro in the last like 2 000 years a lot's happened so let's focus on that shall we just

01:01:39.780 be clear that skin shade was just completely debunked as wrong yeah it was it was done for

01:01:44.660 political reasons but people still reference it to this day they'll still mention cheddar man was

01:01:49.540 it tom booth who was involved in this i'm going to refer to survive the jive tom rousel guest of the

01:01:54.420 show uh who's spoken about this i believe it was tom booth who's like a archaeologist or geneticist who's

01:02:00.100 explicitly written in academic papers of the need to without saying it explicitly falsify history and

01:02:07.540 falsify genetic histories to avoid the rise of nationalist or far-right narratives that's it's

01:02:15.540 all done purely as a counter to people who say well the the english and the british are a distinct

01:02:21.860 separate ethnic group from other people loads of people in the field are quite open about saying

01:02:26.820 that sort of political yeah purely political well you can't even speak of the anglo-saxons in some

01:02:31.860 departments uh because you might end up with a nationalist yes well they even they even wanted

01:02:39.700 to change in in uh anglo-saxon studies they wanted to change it to old english rather than anglo-saxon

01:02:45.060 to avoid it it's like but how does that change it it's still still it's still this it's still the same

01:02:49.540 people yeah but it's still english sounds more nationalistic to me anglo-saxon sounds less

01:02:53.300 nationalistic to me but anyway tom rousell friend of the channel's five to drive was explicitly involved

01:03:00.020 in those conversations about particular departments i think there's one in cambridge just run by complete

01:03:06.660 globalist anti-white psychos saying you basically you can't have a genetic past effectively is what

01:03:13.300 they're saying yeah but this is this is the one that we'll talk about right now which uh you can see

01:03:19.300 there are narratives with this one going all the way back to 2010 reported on by the supposedly

01:03:25.300 allegedly right-winged newspaper daily mail this so this was this must have been some red meat for

01:03:31.300 the gammon i have no idea so giving some background on this this is the ivory bangle lady sorry look at

01:03:39.380 that opening line forensic researchers revealed that multicultural britain is nothing new after

01:03:44.900 discovering black africans were living in high society in roman york it's pretty definitive

01:03:50.660 statement i mean that is and we have from the yorkshire museum these ideas based on her school

01:03:57.860 morphology interestingly enough i thought no genetic differences between people how are our schools

01:04:02.500 different either way they predicted that she may have looked like this okay uh north african maybe does

01:04:11.380 that look like any phoenician that you're familiar with not really no i feel again like cheddar man

01:04:17.940 they might have gone out of their way to say africa that where black people be will make her as dark

01:04:24.020 as possible and make her hair nice and curly because again like before before the arab conquests north

01:04:30.580 africa wasn't even really arab anyway was it no so that admixtures much more recent than roman times anyway

01:04:40.340 north africa if you go way back to where we go back to carthaginian times or even before

01:04:45.380 settled by phoenicians who are from the near east modern day tire right modern day where lebanon israel

01:04:51.860 is literally yeah yeah um and then you've got they were taken over by visigoths for a long time who are

01:04:58.100 from northern europe yep and then the romans obviously italian and then the that's where the non-white

01:05:05.300 mixture comes in there and then then the arab conquest obviously from arabia none of it is

01:05:11.940 sub-saharan african obviously but it's it's as simple as that really isn't it but what they're

01:05:19.140 saying here a study of the remains and artifacts from the fourth century at the yorkshire museum

01:05:23.540 showed north africans were living there thousands of years ago again there's the conflation between

01:05:27.460 north africans and black africans the most exciting results came from the analysis of the so-called

01:05:32.260 ivory bangle lady whose remains were found in 1901 in the city's sycamore terrace the research used

01:05:40.500 modern forensic ancestry assessment to show it was likely that she was of north african descent

01:05:46.820 and may have migrated to york from somewhere warmer again when you're part of this enormous

01:05:52.580 multi-ethnic empire the largest empire in the world certainly at the time um i don't think it's that

01:05:58.740 unusual for people to be migrating if this research is accurate in the first place and uh also the

01:06:06.900 argument that is used is see britain has always been diverse and multi-ethnic and i would make the

01:06:12.980 argument well this isn't even really the story of britain this is the story of the roman empire yeah the

01:06:20.580 roman empire was large and multi-ethnic yes with people migrating and traveling but as soon as the

01:06:28.580 empire fell all of a sudden all of those territories went back to being much more mono-ethnic even rome

01:06:35.460 itself did following the fall of the empire because everyone who was foreign scuttled off back home yeah

01:06:42.580 the romans left basically zero genetic imprint on britain right so if we didn't know from the historical

01:06:49.700 records that they were here you wouldn't know looking at the genetic evidence so yeah minimal

01:06:54.900 certainly almost nothing again that's just completely failing to account that north africans

01:07:04.100 are not sub-saharan africans i mean they literally said she was a black african at the beginning

01:07:08.740 i've mentioned zinedine zidane whenever this comes up always mention zidane yes the berber i mean he's you

01:07:13.940 showed me a picture of him and he had blue eyes and looked like he could have come out of london to be

01:07:18.980 honest yeah well not modern london no more english his skin tone is no darker than anyone else in the

01:07:27.300 mediterranean he's like less olive than an average greek person almost it's like yeah it's not you

01:07:34.740 look whiter than carl to be honest uh it's not sub-saharan black it just isn't yeah they're

01:07:41.380 mediterranean people right but that doesn't right that doesn't help like facts and reality doesn't help

01:07:46.900 for internationalist globalist anti-white narratives does it so this this was uh fun the the study

01:07:53.060 carried out by university of redding redding's department of archaeology senior lecturer lecturer

01:07:58.420 dr heller eckert said up until we now we have to have had to rely on evidence of such farmer uh

01:08:05.700 foreigners in roman britain from inscriptions however by analyzing the facial features of ivory

01:08:10.020 bangle lady and measuring her skull dangerous territory there that works now does it yeah

01:08:15.460 phrenology is cool yeah all of a sudden as long as it means that you're black yeah

01:08:21.380 that's literally what it is isn't it analyzing the chemical signature of the food and drink she

01:08:26.100 consumed and analyzing evidence from the burial site we're able to establish a clear profile of

01:08:30.260 her ancestry and social status we're looking at a population mix which is much much closer to

01:08:35.540 contemporary britain than previous historians have suspected it's always been this way nothing

01:08:40.020 has ever been different it's always diversity has always been our strength especially when we were

01:08:45.220 being subjugated by a foreign empire and i tell you what they're gonna they're gonna do research on

01:08:49.940 my bones and be like oh yeah we're gonna analyze what he was eating my god he was indian

01:08:54.820 oh no i just like a curry man in the case and this is in the case of york the roman population may

01:09:00.660 have had more diverse origins than the city has now wait so the diversity went down yeah but i

01:09:06.980 thought if we'd always been diverse that doesn't add up funny if you look at the literary record if

01:09:13.380 you look at caesar's conquest of britain or tacitus's agricola well yeah they're direct reports of those

01:09:19.140 people there's no mention of pale skin yeah there's no mention of well what would have been out of place

01:09:26.500 sub-saharan africans none and you think no mention of it you think that would have come up as well

01:09:30.740 yeah because they were they enjoyed their ethnographies yeah and i really enjoy reading

01:09:36.020 ancient ethnographies they're really interesting because they're like you know the people are

01:09:38.900 weird looking here or something like this right and yeah you they just give a fairly accurate

01:09:43.700 description of what the thing what what it is they saw you know and yeah you're right there's you

01:09:48.580 know the britons are like you know painted in blue and had pale skin not one african among them weirdly

01:09:54.500 yeah i mean i'm sure they would have some argument of that about it being a whitewashed colonial

01:09:59.460 eurocentric narrative something along those lines but this this narrative has been pushed for a long

01:10:05.300 while and it's always clear what exactly they're doing this for so this is a communist outlet yeah

01:10:10.020 this article from 2023 starts with this passage there were africans in britain before the english came

01:10:17.060 here reveals the opening line of peter fryer's acclaimed book staying power the history of black people

01:10:23.460 in britain well yeah also it wasn't england yeah before the english came here but also african

01:10:30.500 is a very broad statement yeah and also the egyptians were here modern britain as well britain as it was

01:10:38.580 up until the mid 20th century right who who built that was it random north africans i've heard it's

01:10:47.780 literally everyone but the english yeah i have a i have a feeling it might have actually been

01:10:53.060 the english yeah but there's there's an example of the kinds of narratives that's just saying like oh

01:10:58.340 you have no more right to this territory because that's all it is it's just a patch of land it's

01:11:02.500 territory than anybody else in the world in fact actually actually if you look at our history they

01:11:07.780 were here before you were bear in mind don't bear in mind that you know they were just subjects

01:11:13.780 citizens of some foreign empire that were who left when the empire yeah who were left when they

01:11:18.260 they hit left here as well and uh here you go as well this one ivory bangle lady black lives in roman

01:11:25.220 britain beau's favorite beau's favorite roman historian mary beard here we have an article that beau wrote

01:11:32.260 about her this is an accurate picture of mary beard and what she looks like this is her day-to-day makeup

01:11:38.180 uh she in this is quoted oh also here's david olasoga writer of the book black and british

01:11:46.820 definitely people haven't had presence in our history for centuries get over it yeah it's the

01:11:50.020 same in africa actually white europeans have had a presence in africa for centuries get over it

01:11:54.820 i mean who built rhodesia who built south africa yeah you can actually make a claim to having built

01:11:59.460 something there yeah yeah so uh the discovery of ivory bangle ladies remains fully on earth that people of

01:12:06.020 color could have been more than enslaved or merchants they're only presumed roles in the

01:12:10.660 early 20th century fast forward 100 years the controversy doesn't end there professor mary beard

01:12:15.940 a leading classicist was attacked on social media when she confirmed that there had been black romans

01:12:21.540 in britain using ivory bangle lady as crucial evidence this is derived from the political football

01:12:28.340 started when a children's cartoon on the bbc had displayed a black person in their short on hadrian's

01:12:34.420 wall it's really no evidence again trying to falsify history so you've got mary beard a leading

01:12:40.740 classicist somebody that gets all of the television appearances lying to you for the sake of a political

01:12:46.420 narrative well if you go to that article by oh yeah the acclaimed bb dade oh yes of lotus eaters.com

01:12:54.260 would you call him a leading classicist a leading classicist yeah yeah top of his field

01:12:58.500 um yeah i could i say she's not a historian she's a partisan yeah she's just a partisan shield for

01:13:04.020 globalism she's also in not just globalism but every aspect of globalism she wrote a little book

01:13:08.580 about why feminism's great and how women need power for some reason well that's what this article was

01:13:13.220 critiquing oh was it specifically that yeah um aren't you a historian get in your lane yeah so and uh

01:13:19.700 and then you get you know sky history and other places just saying that ivory bangle lady in the

01:13:23.940 multiculturalism of roman britain not what you thought you knew etc so the question then comes

01:13:30.900 is okay so what they did was they measured her skull which i thought was very very funny

01:13:36.660 and checked the isotopes of her teeth to determine the kind of foods that she was eating when she was

01:13:41.220 growing up and determine some other things about the likelihood so it's basically an educated guess

01:13:47.780 using that stuff the likelihood that she was north african so not not not black but north african but

01:13:56.020 they'll still say black anyway uh so the question is well we've got much better genetic testing now

01:14:01.620 than we did 15 years ago uh so oh no she's not hyperborean is she this would be actually a perfect

01:14:09.220 way of determining for certain oh no what the origins were okay and friends gonna go there's

01:14:15.540 gonna be another egyptian pharaoh issue right uh well friend of the friend of the show tom rousel

01:14:20.500 was talking recently about this and he said back in february that in 2021 york museum announced they

01:14:26.420 were collaborating with scogland ancient genomics lab based at the francis crick institute and would

01:14:32.020 confirm the ancestry of the roman era skull from york called ivory bangle lady by 2023 pontus scogland

01:14:39.140 lab had sequenced her dna so they had an answer but hadn't even put a pre-print out he said he was

01:14:46.260 looking forward to seeing what was published and you can see back in 2023 he was chasing this up as

01:14:51.540 your laboratory analyzed the dna of a ivory bangle lady say yes but the work's ongoing work of massaging

01:14:58.980 this is going to be just like tutankhamus oh he's pale with ginger hair they're like oh god genghis

01:15:04.260 can't ginger how is this happening what is going on why is every ruler in history pale with ginger

01:15:09.540 hair what they needed after 2023 i assume they got the spin doctors in yeah they got the spin doctors

01:15:14.900 it's been two years we've got to get a narrative how do we how do we work this and i've got it

01:15:19.620 albino yeah there you go as of this morning uh this is what inspired this tom posted this saying the dna

01:15:27.140 of the allegedly african roman in britain called ivory bangle lady had been sequenced by 2023 but

01:15:32.260 scogland and francis crick institute held off from publishing it because it was going to be included

01:15:36.740 in a large study of over genius samples however this project is no longer on the upcoming project

01:15:44.180 page and you can see the link here to that project page right right it's gone now oh yeah it's it's

01:15:50.180 gone they're not promoting it anymore interesting so it turned out she's white and they've buried it

01:15:54.740 and and is that what is happening here and there's no mention of anywhere of what was discovered

01:16:00.260 about this sample that's fascinating tom says that he had if he had to bet she wasn't african

01:16:07.140 but you know the fact of the matter is now i guess we'll never know yeah i guess ivory bangle lady

01:16:14.260 one of the like cheddar man one of the prime examples that this narrative of we've always been

01:16:21.220 multicultural uh multicultural accept your replacement anti-white narratives etc one of the

01:16:27.700 the foundations of this guess you'll just never know it didn't matter it never mattered if you care

01:16:34.900 why do you care so much yes you're bigoted even for keep wanting an answer yeah listen just because

01:16:40.980 it mattered incredibly to us because we hate up until this point doesn't mean that you should care

01:16:46.340 about it bigger so so uh that's that's that's the information so it turns out ivory bangle lady

01:16:53.220 never mattered never mattered we'll never know absolutely fascinating next move chuds

01:17:01.780 it's so predictable yeah uh fig says so bigger skull means one's black measure the skull of the

01:17:08.100 lead girl from the last us tv show she's black now no i don't think it's the size of her skull it's

01:17:13.140 the size of her face right she's got a very small face we was all sons of yakub never forget i do

01:17:20.260 love the yakubian story it's funny story that's history they can never that's fact they can never

01:17:26.420 explain the question and i do want to get the uh video comments up samson they can never explain

01:17:30.740 the question of why anyone would hear the roman empire took over some cold rainy bingeable shithole

01:17:34.980 where the sun never shines and wants to go personally experience it themselves uh yeah that's a good

01:17:38.980 question really um i mean it did become uh like london became quite a a very large city at the time

01:17:46.260 and there was a lot of trade and everything so yeah what didn't one of the roman emperor emperors

01:17:51.140 move here i forget what a bunch of roman emperors are from here because they they would station legions

01:17:56.660 here and then something would happen and the legions like you're the emperor now uh and this is i mean

01:18:01.620 like constantine the great for example loads of roman emperors visited here i mean from from claudius

01:18:06.980 onwards and yeah constantine the great was in york when he got news of his father's death promoting

01:18:12.820 him to caesar uh for example yeah but there's loads and loads of example a remarkable number of roman

01:18:18.580 emperors whether just on campaign or not stationed here yeah and didn't really make their permanent

01:18:23.220 residence here but loads of them came here yeah yeah i mean a surprising number so so for me the the

01:18:29.140 idea of oh this enormous empire had people moving to all over the places yeah to it that's that's not

01:18:37.780 surprising at all it makes you shrug my shoulders the question is well they're not these people you're

01:18:41.940 talking about aren't related to me and after the empire fell and they left had nothing to do with

01:18:46.740 the building of the country as it existed until 70 years ago correct so how does it have anything to

01:18:52.820 do with us how does it justify anything to do with mass migrations of people in the modern era because

01:18:58.020 you're absolutely right you could say that you know there'll be a roman legion stationed

01:19:03.540 up on the and the wall of the antonians or hadrian's wall that may have been largely recruited from

01:19:08.420 somewhere like anatolia cappadocia or syria even yeah okay all right fine that doesn't mean so what it

01:19:16.180 doesn't mean there were millions of blacks they really said there were millions of blacks from in the

01:19:20.980 in the roman roman britain there weren't millions of blacks in the roman empire just nonsense yeah

01:19:25.620 yeah they were really rare for any for roman i mean they were they were known as ethiopians just

01:19:30.580 in general back then weren't they and they did like you say they had the old ethnography where it

01:19:35.460 basically just portrayed them all as slaves for the most i mean they they like they've got there's

01:19:41.460 quite a lot i mean like the roman the greeks and the carthaginians were aware of them uh ethiopian means

01:19:46.420 burnt face um because they and they were considered to be troglodytes which cave dwellers as well um

01:19:53.140 but uh but they were just you know essentially just savage tribes that were beneath the subsaharan uh

01:19:57.860 beneath the saharan desert and there's plenty of like things talking about them and they're just

01:20:02.740 thing is like in the ancient world you had lots of really weird tribes everywhere right so like the

01:20:07.620 you know the one or two sort of areas of civilized uh life quote unquote civilized so the carthaginians

01:20:13.300 you know shoveling their kids into a burning brazier to moloch you know like romans burying

01:20:18.900 like a random couple of foreigners because they're losing a war it's like civilized uh you know they

01:20:23.300 they were just another strange tribe oh look there's another strange tribe here there is a strange tribe

01:20:27.700 near the baltic where they only use flint weapons and stuff herodotus noting all of these down

01:20:33.060 people never believe you on that one herodotus they were just a bit far don't you think strange

01:20:38.580 tribes on the periphery of like the known world right they weren't like important

01:20:42.980 there's men in skithia who have the heads of dogs yeah yeah and in india where they've got their

01:20:47.940 feet backwards and it's like okay yeah i'm sure that's the case um anyway sean says uh beau almost

01:20:53.780 all serial killers had abusive mothers look it up yeah well that's the point almost all not all

01:21:01.060 okay so yeah i know i think that's a fair point to say um but yeah it's not all though that was the

01:21:07.220 only point i was making yeah um was ted bundy abused or was he one of those ones who was just

01:21:12.180 otherwise normal i can't remember the early story of ted bundy's childhood i'm afraid off the top of

01:21:17.460 my head yeah because because he i haven't made because that close a study of because if if there

01:21:21.460 was going to be one guy if there's going to be one serial killer who did have an otherwise normal

01:21:25.460 childhood it would be him given that he came across so normal in public life other than the whole you

01:21:31.780 know murdering people thing no one's perfect come on michael says uh iran sounds like libya when they

01:21:39.060 got too big for their britches back in the 90s and when the bombs landed nearly on top of qaddafi's

01:21:43.700 house he got real quiet real fast the old adai seems correct shoot a few and the rest will stfu

01:21:49.860 and this this is the problem of the arab world in general is they've got the inherited sort of uh

01:21:56.260 prideful nature without the physical ability to back any of it up yeah because it's like you know

01:22:01.940 you're not going to just raise a hundred thousand men with scimitars and now march to constantinople

01:22:05.620 or whatever that doesn't work anymore uh and so you've got the inherited prideful nature but none

01:22:09.700 of the ability to kind of just project power it doesn't exist anymore so do we not have any video

01:22:16.100 comments i'll say yeah samson do we not have video comments right okay send us video comments on monday

01:22:22.260 folks um tristan says i i truly hope the trump administration is starts is the start of ending

01:22:28.900 ties between israel and the us they've dragged us into too many wars do you gentlemen think that

01:22:33.460 severing ties will be a part of the maga 2028 campaign promise no no i haven't heard vance say

01:22:40.660 anything explicitly anti-zionist no that way no i mean that that's probably vance being smart to be

01:22:47.060 further isn't it he's keeping his power to dry yeah i don't know i don't know uh roman observer

01:22:52.900 says israel manages to kill nuclear scientists generals and destroy sites but for some reason

01:22:56.660 not the islamic leader who pushes to the destruction of israel and the islamization of the world

01:23:00.580 was again i just i just view um iran as basically just an empty suit just parroting me shut up yeah i

01:23:08.580 think i think you're right is that well what's the point of killing the leader when he's so obviously

01:23:12.420 completely impotent yeah and all he can do is tweet whereas like you like well of course the rest of

01:23:18.260 the power would be in the people developing nukes and the generals who can actually do something

01:23:22.900 it's an interesting question though would israel uh assassinate the ayatollah i watched an interesting

01:23:28.900 video just the other day on on youtube of why is it so rare certainly in the post-war post-world

01:23:34.180 war ii era i mean for heads of state to get assassination not unknown but it's quite rare like

01:23:40.820 why hasn't russia tried to take out zelensky with uh some sort of precision strike or the

01:23:46.340 other way around uh you know the ukrainians assassinate russian generals they have in the

01:23:50.820 middle of russia they have tried they have tried um i feel like if israel really wanted to they could

01:23:56.340 blow up alihamani if they wanted to they're choosing not to i guess maybe i don't know but i guess it's

01:24:03.940 maybe there's a line in the sand like once you've once you've set the precedent of that

01:24:11.140 then everyone starts doing it all the time but you also don't it's a good question though it's

01:24:15.700 an interesting question you also don't get weird rogue cells and rebels doing it as much either

01:24:21.620 um these days because i was i've been listening to um books on the beginning of uh of the first world

01:24:27.380 war uh an audio book and one one was like one little figure was between say like 1900 and 1914 when

01:24:34.820 you get to the assassination of france ferdinand there was like dozens of heads of state just constantly

01:24:39.940 being assassinated anarchists yeah random anarchists just running up to them in the street and

01:24:43.860 shooting them or stabbing them in the balkans yeah there was a czar that was that was killed

01:24:49.220 wasn't there alexander second by lenin's brother you've got the hashash in the middle ages oh the

01:24:54.100 hashash yeah yeah they were they were up for it yeah i mean anarchists tried to kill queen victoria

01:25:00.500 a number of times and failed every time did you know that she had loads of assassination

01:25:05.140 attempts against her i just put that down in the digital age i think the security services are

01:25:10.340 far more technically on point than they used to be i mean it's not like it's never happened right at

01:25:14.980 the beginning of golf war two like the literally the beginning the shock and awe evening of shock

01:25:19.380 and awe they tried to blow up sedan and just failed although saying that there have been the

01:25:25.380 the attempts on trump yeah but they didn't work trump trump knew too much he knew to tilt his head

01:25:33.060 yeah uh furious dan says ban only fans and reserve the production of pornography for an exclusive elite

01:25:38.660 who can afford to create their own sites harry is right art should be gate kept no more sixes and seven

01:25:44.500 uh he's like i need my high class pornography god damn it i mean at least i need to i need there to be a

01:25:51.460 real story and emotion behind at least minimize the quality quantity of it that could be produced

01:25:57.060 um but i i don't i don't see over quantity we're not up for this mass and scale nonsense i'm surprised

01:26:03.380 how forgiving you are of bonnie blues looks because she looks like she's had loads of surgery like the

01:26:07.300 you know the the cheek thing and the jaw thing so she looks like weird to me like like i'm getting

01:26:13.700 uncanny valley vibes from bonnie blue yeah i don't think she's amazingly beautiful or anything

01:26:19.140 well no it's not even though she's i think she's she looks like a plastic statue like a six or seven

01:26:24.580 to me just harry said she was minging i wouldn't go that absolutely minging i would it's the surgery

01:26:31.380 man she looks like just she she looks like a a plastic doll yeah yeah which isn't it's not attractive

01:26:38.420 to me uh charlie says these only fans women thinks they'll be the next theodora but in reality

01:26:44.420 they're more elegabalous uh it might be an option where we have to convince normal women these

01:26:50.900 harlots are competition and fail and a failing strategy uh the problem is we keep making them

01:26:55.860 into multi-millionaires right that's the issue like this is why only fans need to be banned i can't

01:27:01.140 believe i paid so much interference on that segment i didn't mean to just trying to protect your only

01:27:06.340 fans account yeah yeah um but the point i thought you i'm sorry bo i hate i thought you were about

01:27:11.060 i said i can't believe i paid so much to bonnie blue oh yeah

01:27:16.500 she still won't respond yeah two thousand and first guy

01:27:22.260 i could have clipped that bit oh no god um but it's it's like i said i'm not even that

01:27:26.820 bothered about the prostitution itself it's the fact that we're making them to multi-millionaires

01:27:30.180 and celebrities right that's the problem that has to be for me well the worst thing is um that any

01:27:36.660 little kid in the playground yeah some fucking piece of shit 11 year old gets his phone and shows

01:27:42.100 it to a six year old or whatever in the playground yeah that's a nightmare that's a nightmare thing

01:27:48.580 yeah yeah honestly when i um i was like the first part of the first generation at my age to have access

01:27:56.020 to all this stuff really early i remember i was like 11 12 years old and the next door neighbor's

01:28:02.420 kids just came over with their phone and he was like hey look at this and i'm like 11 12 i didn't

01:28:09.060 really know what i was looking at but looking back now it's like that was really messed up yeah

01:28:14.420 and i worry about the same for my own children hey state says bonnie blue left her husband to do

01:28:18.260 this oh god imagine watching your ex-wife running around like this uh well i mean he says poor man

01:28:23.220 soul must be trying to escape his body first he encouraged it and secondly i mean good thing you

01:28:28.900 dodged the bullet like you know well yeah like better late than never yeah exactly he's probably

01:28:34.980 doing the web web development on her page yeah but i mean you know there are people like look we

01:28:40.900 well he encouraged us yeah he was probably on the camera oh god man i just i hate it so much um

01:28:47.060 um alpha the beta says white people have no homeland evolved nowhere and appeared as if by magic from

01:28:52.020 ether no it was you cube no we are elves yet managed to steal the entire european continent

01:28:56.820 from its rightfully black owners then proceeded proceeded to conquer half the planet am i

01:29:00.740 understanding the narrative correctly that is actually literally the narrative that we are

01:29:05.300 being presented with yes why people are from nowhere they popped up one day and took everything in the

01:29:10.580 face of the advanced african civilizations that they were confronted with put that way we're kind of

01:29:15.860 awesome yeah we're pretty awesome the thing is that's also not true like we're just yeah we are

01:29:22.260 still awesome we're awesome but like you know we we came from somewhere and we you know there's an

01:29:26.180 explanatory there's something that can be explained to the point where we got here um anyway alex says

01:29:32.100 uh the cheddar man was black argument is rooted in a deliberate misunderstanding of the position of

01:29:35.540 nationalists by the left which is about that it's about skin color if we share skin color it refutes our

01:29:40.420 argument they don't understand it's about ethnicity and heritage and not skin color and that that's

01:29:44.580 exactly the point obviously um they just are not related to us so it's nothing to do with them

01:29:49.700 uh and again race is a social construct but this skeleton is black it's like yeah we were able to

01:29:54.740 measure his social construct and yeah yeah yeah i broke up the calipers and with the power of social

01:30:01.220 phrenology like but uh yeah no it's preposterous and uh i'm not not having it any of it and so ban

01:30:11.860 everything uh anyway uh one thing we're not banning is of course james o'brien's uh what what kind of

01:30:17.700 game is it it's kind of mystery hour it's a trivia game okay that's a trivia game actually it should

01:30:23.460 actually be quite fun uh we need to be careful the box has been touched by james o'brien it's got his

01:30:28.740 signature on it uh so which means that i'm signed copy of james o'brien somebody somebody owned it and

01:30:34.740 sent it to us they thought you know what harry needs he needs a bunch of shit lip books and the game we're

01:30:40.660 we're gonna catch a lurgy off it we're gonna get o'brien's disease my allergies do flare up when

01:30:45.300 i'm near it so i just love how you are literally the the world's biggest expert on james o'brien

01:30:51.060 at this point i mean no one next to his therapist next to his therapist true but anyway we'll be back

01:30:55.540 in half an hour to play uh james o'brien's wonderful mystery hour game i'm actually really looking forward

01:30:59.220 to it i think it's gonna be a lot of fun it should be quite fun yeah yeah like harry was showing us some

01:31:03.460 stuff okay this this does look fun i hate to credit james o'brien with something i don't think he developed

01:31:07.540 the game well i doubt it yeah but anyway join us in half an hour on lacy's.com we'll see you soon

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 13, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1186

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