The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus eaters for monday the 16th

00:00:11.300 of june 2025 i'm joined by stephen and beau and on this fine sunny monday i don't know is it sunny

00:00:18.700 outside actually i don't know it's kind of bright yeah yeah uh we're gonna be we're gonna be talking

00:00:23.260 about trump's trooping of the colors and how uh it's done in other countries uh the minnesota

00:00:30.100 assassination which was quite a surprise and how labor have decided to do a massive u-turn on

00:00:35.840 ordering a grooming gang inquiry and why they have done that uh we have no announcements today so

00:00:42.160 let's just begin right so at the weekend trump had a military parade oh no yeah right yeah the leftists

00:00:50.020 are like oh no you can't do it military parade isn't that fascism yeah yeah definitely king

00:00:54.900 king trump only a king or a fascist would do such a thing yeah yeah leftist communists never do that

00:01:01.400 sort of thing ever when did the soviet union ever do that when does north korea ever do yeah yeah um

00:01:07.860 so i thought i thought it was worth sort of having a bit of a talk about uh because it was interesting

00:01:14.040 uh we have got a little bit of criticism for it but the from the opposite end of the spectrum

00:01:18.520 yeah i thought disappointing right right yeah could do better have every year if anything

00:01:22.880 i've got no problems with the concept of having a military parade have more pride in your history

00:01:29.140 and heritage and military prowess if anything also pick up your feet when you're marching and actually

00:01:33.840 march i've got lots of criticisms yeah i quite like the idea of of it in principle but is this all part

00:01:39.460 of his strategy of turning around and said it was america that won the first world war is america that

00:01:44.020 won the second world war or is it just about him really just building the american military dream

00:01:50.440 and ideology again because it put a lot of money hasn't it in this this latest bill huge amount yeah

00:01:56.060 but it didn't going into the military it didn't come across like that at all to me oh didn't oh good

00:01:59.840 well um uh well it was interesting because it's not like and i'll get this to this later it's not

00:02:04.140 like the americans can't march properly um but no this parade just wasn't necessarily

00:02:10.500 yeah it could have could have been better should have been better a bit more spit and polish yeah

00:02:16.840 i would like i've seen those brilliant i haven't we just seen those brilliant kind of videos of the

00:02:22.120 americans with the the weapons and they're turning around and twizzling they're absolutely the marine 0.98

00:02:26.060 core yeah yeah i've got a clip of that later but all right let's watch a little bit of a little bit

00:02:30.960 of what we're dealing with turn this up uh well actually i want to hear trump

00:02:35.140 speaking the united states army thank you very much

00:02:40.100 because the army keeps us free you make us strong and tonight you have made all americans

00:02:52.300 very proud they're watching from these guys are larpers or something not marching properly 0.98

00:02:57.420 they're not doing it properly i i understand that they had like the eras uniforms yeah this is the

00:03:04.580 first one warrior yeah yeah yeah yes it was that and the things trump could march in the first world

00:03:09.380 trump is saying here are all true like the the u.s military tradition is relatively short as it is

00:03:16.020 compared to an englishman yeah it's still pretty damn good yes like that's not that's not a lie i don't

00:03:21.960 want to cast any shadow over any of that like when in 2003 the second gulf war that uh arm and

00:03:29.740 advance from basra to baghdad was arguably the greatest arm and advance of all time right

00:03:35.960 the u.s military capabilities on the battlefield are second to none i mean it helps that the opponents

00:03:41.840 want iraqis yeah and they got 70s soviet tanks yeah and had three bows and arrows and a pistol that

00:03:48.560 was filled with water and with nothing but a piece of broken crockery um let's listen to trump

00:03:55.540 again from all over the world that's what happens when you get divorced i'm all very proud every other

00:04:00.780 country celebrates their victories it's about time america did too that's what we're doing tonight

00:04:08.380 and watching this magnificent display our souls are filled with gratitude for every generation of

00:04:19.180 warriors who have worn the uniform all the way back to the very beginning so to every veteran across our

00:04:26.400 land and right here in our nation's capital and they're not dressed properly i don't mean their

00:04:32.380 uniform dressed in line marching yeah correctly you just i'd just like to see a bit more why are they

00:04:38.060 ambling yeah there's a lot of just ambling we're just gonna walk along here recipients of the

00:04:43.820 congressional medal of honor we love you we honor you and we salute your noble service to our flag

00:04:51.160 and to our country as we celebrate tonight we also think of the hundreds of thousands of army

00:04:58.680 soldiers who have made the supreme sacrifice for our nation and selflessly laid down their lives in

00:05:06.140 every war from the revolution to the war on terror to the gold star families with us today the courage

00:05:14.560 of your heroes is the bedrock on which just can't knock the words our entire nation stands we thank you

00:05:21.140 yes we thank you yeah mad anthony replied this guy sort of uh summed it up for me

00:05:28.980 just just slouching with shades on you're supposed to be on parade man yeah disgrace us sir you shame us

00:05:36.320 sir it's just it could have been it could have been a bit better i like it do it every year i was i was

00:05:42.200 very disappointed by the the marching like sorry why weren't you actually marching you know proper arm

00:05:47.900 swinging legs straight in time with one another like you know shoulders up back head up yeah proper

00:05:55.560 marching yeah like maybe they need to get that guy out of full metal jacket and bring him back

00:06:00.300 and force him to do it once at a time because this this reminded me of like all those vietnam movies

00:06:05.240 where you see them hanging on to them yeah the helicopters just louch back just popping off one

00:06:10.100 you know every now and again which is quite cool in its own way but not on a national national day

00:06:16.040 yeah like this this article says that they looked a bit more like prisoners of war

00:06:20.280 yeah um they didn't seem to have pride right because one of the things about like um displays of troops

00:06:27.560 marching and the reason that they're they're so um they're so energetic in places like north korea in

00:06:35.200 fact uh is is because they're trying to show that they're all like ultra disciplined high energy

00:06:40.900 you know well trained professionals right this isn't just people walking along these are trained

00:06:48.060 soldiers who move as a unit and that's what the march is supposed to show and the american one

00:06:54.940 didn't yeah not really that's quite disappointing yeah i would have liked to have seen seen a bit

00:07:00.460 more um so but the leftists of course oh god they hate the entire thing the entire concept it was not

00:07:05.920 like this was great but be better it was like no the whole thing is wrong-headed yeah and of course 0.98

00:07:10.780 they're fifth columnists and uh traitors and scumbags uh but there you go the lincoln project 0.93

00:07:15.500 it's like north korea now look it's not weird that countries like britain and france and russia and 0.97

00:07:22.040 north korea have military parades that's not weird it's weird if you don't if you don't have any

00:07:27.360 pride whatsoever if you if you don't what's the national army but it's not really like north korea is it

00:07:32.920 because if they were north korea and they marched in that way they would have been basically shot 0.53

00:07:37.920 i don't know what north korean is but you can't march but it was like bosh off you go 1.00

00:07:46.780 and at the same time it was also trump's birthday wasn't it and there was these these no kings no

00:07:53.000 kang's parade yeah the no kings thing which was very very peculiar frankly um because being a king

00:08:00.180 a monarch yeah yeah because it fell on the same day as the trooping of the color right and so it's

00:08:05.800 like okay but the i mean a you've got all sorts of states that have military parades you know republics

00:08:12.580 dictatorships democracies monarchies so this isn't something that's exclusively reserved for kings

00:08:19.780 but don't they also have them during individual states in the united states have different days in

00:08:24.340 which they celebrate the the military and have them coming down maybe i don't know but maybe if

00:08:29.200 they dressed up in red red uh pink yellow green flags and all the rest of it that would have been

00:08:34.040 okay but the thing is like the hustle like pride month as they've got don't mind marching for that 1.00

00:08:39.400 do they left well yeah but it's not not quite the same but the the no kings thing it's like nobody's

00:08:44.880 putting that on the table yeah well this feels like a strange anachronism i mean i think trump

00:08:50.320 actually summed up pretty well here they're just spurging out yeah um but yeah when trump was asked

00:08:54.900 about it there are several no kings protests planned across the country on saturday as well

00:09:01.420 what are your thoughts on those what are they going no king no kings i don't feel like a king i have to go

00:09:05.940 through hell to get stuff approved a king would say i'm not gonna get this a king would have never had

00:09:12.160 the california mandate to even be talking to him he wouldn't have to call up mike johnson and thune and

00:09:17.860 say fellas you gotta pull this off and after years we get it done no no we're not a king we're

00:09:23.540 not a king at all thank you very much that's a great response that's a brilliant response and true

00:09:29.080 as well yeah yeah i mean uh just a little fedora tip actually moment yeah our difference is between

00:09:34.640 an absolute monarch yeah and most kings most kings do still have to yeah sort of plead to get what

00:09:40.840 they want doesn't do anything yeah yeah magna carta being one of them oh yeah our constitutional

00:09:45.380 monarch just a quick thing on that i i love the tone of trump's reply there can we go back to that

00:09:49.580 and the sort of like expression on trump's face as well yeah like please you know yeah exactly the

00:09:55.300 the whole the whole thing just felt like it was a weird and inappropriate question yeah oh they're

00:10:01.040 protesting kings like king do you know the amount of bureaucracy i have to go to do you know the number

00:10:05.780 of meetings i have to have you know what does what does being a king mean if that's what i've got to do

00:10:10.520 in this system yeah you know like it it was so like tin-eared to accuse him of that because

00:10:16.320 obviously he's just trapped in a bureaucratic system where he's got all of this stuff and go through all

00:10:20.180 of these people and eventually maybe he gets something done yeah and that's the way the system

00:10:24.440 was designed yeah so it's just like i don't know what you're talking about i don't see any crown on

00:10:29.580 his head where's my orb where's my scepter yeah i mean there's it's not he's like i'm sure you give the

00:10:33.980 left are going to be a meme with it on there somewhere along the line yeah that listen probably some on the

00:10:38.660 right as well but it's you know in reality it doesn't reflect anything about his daily life

00:10:42.840 god emperor sure king not so much he's egyptian now um yeah so the mainstream media going with

00:10:52.500 anything that's sort of anti-trump they love don't they look at the age of the protesters saying this

00:10:57.780 this is another one of the things it's like the no kings protest it's all a bunch of really old boomers 0.98

00:11:02.940 like look i mean look at the picture but you can see the people in the background they're just all

00:11:06.800 really old old and white yeah mainly white exactly because this is a very sort of white concern you're

00:11:12.400 right you know like you know the constitutional republic you know you know the people have come

00:11:16.420 over from you know various strange countries give a damn about that you know no of course not you 0.57

00:11:21.700 know this is a boomer concern apparently yeah white boomers against trump yeah the most vocal ones

00:11:28.300 calling him a king when he's like well you know i'm trying to get a bill passed it's almost

00:11:31.300 wombats isn't it white boomers against trump wombats let's make that a thing let's make that 0.76

00:11:37.800 a thing the wombats we've got it hashtag wombat there's a very white protest actually now you

00:11:42.660 mention it i hadn't even thought about it yeah no they are mainly white and i picked this up over

00:11:46.740 the weekend with these no king things it was fascinating really so a republic tearing itself

00:11:53.080 apart unnecessarily yeah or beginning to yeah there's no need for it but there you go they're

00:11:58.280 marching behind their flag yeah with the trans flag yeah yeah that's it i don't they don't look 0.95

00:12:03.560 correctly dressed into lion either no no they need to learn properly at least there is there is the

00:12:09.200 odd american flag there they've learned their lesson from the mexican national protests it's like no

00:12:13.800 guys we have to have a couple of american flags there otherwise we look like traitors well just just

00:12:17.920 on that i know it's a complete aside but you know look what's going to happen down in london

00:12:21.900 we're all down on the queen's queen's royal estate down regent street that flag is going to have

00:12:27.180 like 150 of them flying down so yeah i'll be avoiding london for a month it's like yeah the

00:12:33.520 left is they hate flags apart from their flags absolutely yeah but yeah there were some disturbances and

00:12:39.620 a person or two was killed apparently yeah um millions rallied against trump did really did they

00:12:46.840 really did they was it did they okay so did they overthrow the king like was the monarch deposed i mean

00:12:53.060 i'm all in favor at this point of deposing the monarch like this is the thing it's it's so weird

00:12:58.580 because you it would be more sensible to argue no dictators right because dictators are actually a

00:13:03.900 normal part of republics and actually many republics have turned into dictatorships and some of them even

00:13:08.320 have the dictator as a core part of the constitution so you would actually be speaking at least in the

00:13:13.740 same sort of playing field it's like yeah a republic could quite easily end up with a dictator

00:13:18.240 uh but the king i mean this you'd have to draw upon a series of things that just aren't present in

00:13:24.540 the united states what are you talking about well all republics have have ended in tears one way or

00:13:30.720 another so far so far and you talk about dictating sort of the cincinnatus sense not necessarily the

00:13:37.520 pol pot sense no although that's that's always something happens um and then there's trump being like

00:13:43.860 i'm just trying to get a bill passed it's like what what are you talking about there's a huge

00:13:47.980 disconnect between reality and your bizarre fancy this goes goes to how the left really don't

00:13:52.980 understand history don't understand understand philosophy yeah don't understand just the general

00:13:58.840 concepts of how these principles came around and also leads to the idea that most of them really 0.96

00:14:03.220 don't really understand their constitution either so you know it's they're pretty dumb history and 0.74

00:14:09.460 heritage are an anathema to socialists the socialist even communist system will only work if the vast 0.98

00:14:17.140 majority of the populace are ignorant of their history basically that's why they one of the reasons

00:14:22.200 why they despise it so much um i was going to play a bit more of this in 1775 the shot sound off um

00:14:30.100 but yeah so it was it seems like uh there's a fair amount of larping going on yeah but that's fine

00:14:37.380 no it's fine it's fine i'm not i'm not criticizing that in and of itself uh at all and i've got to

00:14:43.060 remember i am enjoying it when they pull out the whole history in terms of the colors of the uniforms

00:14:48.660 the cars that that thing to me i really love that sort of kind of yeah i think the historical buildings

00:14:55.700 that the uniforms it just shows progress as well the way that progress is had a bit of style

00:15:00.740 it did you know look the same thing means funeral as well where you've got like you know the the

00:15:05.940 british military through the ages yeah trooping past but they they marched properly yeah as i say

00:15:12.260 again um do it every year if anything make it make it better next time that's got to be vietnam

00:15:17.220 um the hat yeah world war ii guys i think these are vietnam are these vietnam hats hadn't the

00:15:24.260 the helmets hadn't changed much enormously although i think they were built slightly differently in

00:15:28.740 terms of the metal for headshots but and the reason why i say um it seems all a bit lackluster

00:15:35.460 or not quite squared away perfectly which is odd because the us can do it oh gosh yeah can they

00:15:42.420 yeah i know they i've seen these sort of things marines okay and um absolutely brilliant love it you

00:15:50.180 you can see that they're marching properly oh okay time they're doing it properly not just time

00:15:56.020 straight backs legs out all you can see is the movement of the legs and i love like they again

00:16:01.140 coming down to the style it's just the white against blue emphasizes the leg movements as well

00:16:06.580 a dress uniform a dress uniform very smart stand up straight do it properly yeah yeah i was i was

00:16:13.060 chin up chest out i was quite unimpressed with the sense of slouching nature of this is

00:16:17.460 it is just military and it's one might so maybe that's why the marines are regarded as the as the

00:16:22.180 top top lot because they can actually march there's no excuse yeah but then i kind of did

00:16:27.380 think at the background when you see that that's a bit of britain there with a red we've put in our

00:16:32.500 red bits there the juxtaposition on the band that'll be the band and people know of uh quite fairly

00:16:38.340 famously they're like spinning the uh spinning the rifles round they do um did they have that in the

00:16:45.700 event as well i didn't see it but this is this is brilliant i just love this um so they are capable

00:16:52.420 of precision right um yeah so it'd be nice if if they do the military parade again next year or every

00:16:59.140 year going forward have everyone in that parade as as smart as this yeah um no reason not and i would

00:17:09.300 like to see this in the olympic games gun spinning gun spinning and see all the different countries

00:17:14.500 because they do it pretty well in the czech republic as well when they do if you've been to uh prague

00:17:20.180 they come out i think every few hours and they have a couple of people who march around and spin a

00:17:24.580 few of their weapons around as well i mean guns that is their weapons yeah prague is well known for

00:17:29.780 other things but spinning spinning their weapons around is pretty good and uh who else do it quite well

00:17:34.980 the chinese that they're pretty good at you know this is why the leftists are like screaming and crying

00:17:40.980 because the americans have some guys just slouching out it's like oh this is like military dictatorship

00:17:45.220 it's like you ain't seen nothing yet but it's also this was a d minus we've got we can do a plus we

00:17:50.900 can do it yeah wait till next year yeah yeah it's like are you just learning that america has a national

00:17:55.780 army like this is oh well today i learned that we have a military force and they can march and well

00:18:00.580 they can't march but like they they should march some can some can i mean it's like it they they should

00:18:06.020 rightly be they should rightly be proud of it yes absolutely i mean the u.s military as i say in

00:18:11.380 terms of sort of battlefield prowess is it is the best in the world yeah i mean so you kind of think

00:18:20.580 to yourself look okay leftists right this is who you are right there you are you don't like the

00:18:25.780 military you don't like what we stand for don't like the constitution the mexicans are coming in 1.00

00:18:30.260 down below the gangs are there ready tell you what we'll do is we'll leave you to the gangs for for

00:18:35.540 for a couple of years we're just going to stand on the borders with our military on you know

00:18:40.260 where it is arizona texas we'll let you take them on for a couple years and when you're actually

00:18:44.260 grateful when you realize that we're there to protect you we'll come in and wipe it up

00:18:48.500 but in the meantime you might need to suffer a bit if we see how the the russians doing it

00:18:54.180 um look look the mass ranks yeah the the mass strength proper straight back yeah um look at

00:19:01.700 them marching on the side yeah and uh yeah i just see that's a good good colored uniform i like them

00:19:09.540 i like the different shades the red and the greens and the gold coming out there

00:19:13.620 that's a fashion show now aren't we no no it's the discipline that's the thing that concerns me the

00:19:17.940 most that's brilliant yeah or if you're going to have sort of a full uh military parade uh the

00:19:27.380 chinese i do it very well wait what link is it chinese yeah okay

00:19:39.540 that's a big road um that's tianamon square i believe i was gonna say i think that's tianamon

00:19:44.420 square oh is it right so again um just sort of an actual show of

00:19:51.140 prowess really yeah that's that's straight marching um so it's a little bit different

00:19:58.740 it does and a kick it does make the old goose step yeah they're going at full time there aren't

00:20:04.500 they they're showing what they can do it does make what the americans did look a bit lackluster

00:20:09.060 yeah it looks unprofessional a little bit yeah a little bit thrown together a little bit cobbled

00:20:12.740 together at the last minute clearly america isn't having enough military parades well they they

00:20:17.300 aren't really if they do it year after year after year they'll get better i'm sure yeah yeah oh no

00:20:21.140 doubt um yeah and let's not get started on like how north korea do it oh god it's that time of

00:20:28.580 year again welcome to north korea how do you turn the volume off on this samson can you turn the

00:20:34.260 volume off on that just mute the tab oh he's gonna do it for me all right and then play it for us

00:20:40.980 is this a good one well they just do it because their their whole their entire regime is is uh

00:20:50.580 well military dictation depends upon depends upon the perception of their military don't they

00:20:56.100 um so yeah the south koreans also do choreographed oh do they uh military stuff very very well well

00:21:02.980 if the iranians had learned from the north koreans they wouldn't be where they are today 1.00

00:21:06.180 george galloway yeah of course i've seen al capone and george galloway yeah she's sure it

00:21:11.700 isn't george galloway and number one george galloway fan look at that a bit space ogy there

00:21:18.180 don't you yeah we're actually putting on a full a full show yeah um okay we had just so happened

00:21:25.780 that the weekend the british had a bit of a military oh did we a bit of a military show

00:21:32.180 i've done a good job one that we uh have every year the the tripping of the color for the for the

00:21:36.820 monarch's belt day did anyone fall off the horse exhausted again no not that i saw not this time

00:21:45.460 turn the sound off because what people just can't hear you talking over the sound okay i did want to

00:21:50.420 hear some of the okay well then don't talk the the ferocious all right we'll be quiet dressing that

00:21:55.380 was going on to get them all when he seems all sort of shuffling to make sure they're all sort of

00:21:59.460 perfectly in line and stuff i mean the cold stream guards and the treatment of the color it's like

00:22:05.220 in the order of 375 years old so it's older than you know most military parades are in one way or

00:22:12.500 another derivative of this this is the og it's all in the united kingdom i mean let's listen to him

00:22:18.340 actually what he says here we might have just missed him saying something but um he was saying

00:22:27.140 that this is what won us napoleonic was the ability to do this in battle under fire yeah is to slowly

00:22:35.300 get perfectly in line to change 90 degrees to face the enemy or whatever this is what beat napoleon

00:22:41.220 things like this um uh so there's just yeah there's there's it just it goes on and on and on

00:22:48.660 but there's lots of yeah so i mean the thing the thing this all was i mean it's all quite archaic now

00:22:55.140 and anachronistic because obviously modern battlefields just aren't like old battlefields

00:23:00.020 but it really was about moving bodies of troops around under harsh conditions uh so to make sure that

00:23:06.660 your disciplined soldiers could be at the right place at the right time to actually win the battle

00:23:10.420 uh a bit anachronistic uh and the americans can always say well you know what that's true we're

00:23:16.020 not marching so well but we are winning a lot of wars aren't we winning a lot of battles at least

00:23:20.100 right so yeah yeah numbers of men and the amount they put into kind of military technology it's just

00:23:27.940 outweighs what we we can do i mean you look at the sizes i don't know if you have i've ever been to

00:23:33.140 Tiananmen square square or moscow square i have not no i've not i mean i'd love to go and see

00:23:38.660 mrs horse cars parade it's not quite on the scale that's what i was going to say this this looks

00:23:44.260 like an over overgrown like hockey pitch nowadays when you get down there because it's actually not

00:23:48.500 as big as even when it looks on the screen yeah it's not let's just listen to them they'll do like

00:23:54.820 the pinwheel maneuver the hymn of the british grenadiers no point talking about it anyway yeah that's the

00:24:08.980 hymn of the british grenadiers um but yeah doing all this this sort of thing it's uh it's sort of

00:24:13.780 the original the original stuff yeah the trooping of the color where the the the battle flag of the

00:24:21.860 grenadiers with its all its battle honors on it is tripped past the king to receive his salute

00:24:27.460 and again keeping in the stylish thing beautiful red black black trousers there makes the leg 0.71

00:24:32.100 movements really work well when they're marching properly no slouching there yeah that pinwheel

00:24:36.740 movement is very very difficult i'm given to understand um so yeah just hopefully i've never

00:24:41.460 taken part i've never done it myself i just feel like uh the trump's military parade was good and

00:24:49.540 good on them but um could do better dial it up next time yeah the old world's looking again wow

00:24:56.820 you haven't been practicing this actually compete with the chinese and the russians and the british

00:25:00.820 army yeah and the thing is the americans are usually quite proud in this sort of way uh and like to have

00:25:06.340 a big spectacle so the fact that the military parade wasn't a big spectacle was actually sort of

00:25:11.140 unusual from the american psyche right you know i expected quite a lot out of them and it was just

00:25:16.340 kind of yeah are they going to do it every year i don't know probably not probably not haven't heard

00:25:21.460 that they are but they should yeah maybe they should do it once every four years then you know just then

00:25:26.020 and it won't be a king thing it would just whichever president yeah and then it becomes a

00:25:30.260 part of history i'd like to see that i'd like to see him getting to it again so scott here uh for five

00:25:35.220 dollars says when i was in the air cadets as a teenager our marching was more strict than that

00:25:39.300 you know i was in the air cadets i was here and our marching was more strict than that that's why

00:25:43.460 i was watching it like oh that's a bit sad i expected a lot better actually i was in the cub

00:25:49.780 scouts and they taught us to march properly right um yeah yeah so it was just like what is this

00:25:56.020 you know anyway uh oph uk says those soldiers just annoyed because they had to march in the warm

00:26:00.820 weather no excuse man no excuse you know and if the if the warm weather gets too much you can just

00:26:05.460 faint okay that's how that's how that works faint like a man yeah they do it it seems like every

00:26:11.620 year someone with a bear skin just bump you know and it's head first no body protection you just 0.98

00:26:16.580 gotta go the full head exactly you faint like a goddamn man make sure you're hospitalized after 0.98

00:26:20.660 a faint otherwise yeah you're just seen as a weakling if it's too hot for you then face plant yeah 0.99

00:26:25.300 yeah exactly that's what with some dignity

00:26:30.340 but it is anyway the engaged few says if i'm not mistaken those marines you showed are from the

00:26:34.660 marine barracks at eighth and first streets in washington dc they're still marines but they're

00:26:39.060 trained for parades yeah well get them out then yeah uh scott says living in cyprus i've met british

00:26:44.980 squad is here they have they are unimpressive reprobates yeah and they have been for hundreds of

00:26:50.340 years what's your point and when asked to they'll also march properly exactly and win wars yeah on

00:26:58.900 12 pints of lager the night before this is literally um what bloody wellington said about 0.97

00:27:04.580 bloody infantry you know they're the mere scum of the earth but what fine fellows we should make of 0.97

00:27:08.740 them you know it's like yes that's the way our armies always worked uh redcoats march real well 0.99

00:27:13.940 in lines for frontiersmen to shoot uh i mean you need the french come and save you but anyway we won't

00:27:18.580 get into it um and look how that worked out for the french king yeah you know careful the better

00:27:25.860 the devil you know sometimes the only time the french didn't retreat uh yeah uh right so 1.00

00:27:32.260 a bit of drama happened in minnesota recently as someone decided to assassinate uh a minnesota state

00:27:40.980 representative and her husband and attempt to assassinate another one and his wife although 0.99

00:27:46.820 they both survived and this has been described by governor tim waltz as politically motivated

00:27:53.540 politically targeted violence uh and the suspected gunman is a 57 year old man called vance luther

00:28:00.340 bolter uh which is remarkable so we have very strange occurrence and a very strange profile

00:28:08.500 of the would-be assassin and there are many questions uh surrounding this so as you can see this is a

00:28:14.980 melissa hortman and her husband that were killed and state senator john hoffman and his wife were

00:28:19.380 wounded uh and i honestly don't really know why so as and no no one else does either it seems uh as

00:28:27.380 the uh new times or washington post so we don't know for sure the motivation of not really no and it's

00:28:35.940 weirdly we have a manifesto but we're not allowed to see it when they said it was politically motivated

00:28:41.060 sorry for me left or right what were we even talking here well this is the question it's not

00:28:47.140 readily apparent right so um miss hortman uh just for the background on who the lawmakers were who were

00:28:53.380 shot um she was a lawyer and a legislator for about 20 years uh she'd been the speaker of the minnesota 0.99

00:29:00.340 house of representatives from 2019 to 2025 uh she was a democrat and represented a reliably democrat district

00:29:07.540 uh she played a key key role in passing a trove of bills during the 2023 session when they held a 0.93

00:29:13.860 slim majority in the legislature including expanding abortion rights legalized recreation legalizing

00:29:18.980 recreational marijuana and requiring employers to offer paid family and medical leave uh under her 0.77

00:29:24.980 leadership the democrats in the house boycotted the early weeks of the legislative session amid a fight

00:29:29.940 for control of the chamber so there's been a bit of a back and forth on this uh voters had left the

00:29:36.660 democrats and republicans with an equal number of seats in the house but the challenges of two of

00:29:40.580 the elections won by democrats created a period of uncertainty around which party would control

00:29:44.980 the chamber and one thing that colleagues have repeatedly praised her for uh her negotiation skills

00:29:50.820 and pragmatism so while she is a democrat she is prepared to work with republicans and get things done

00:29:58.420 across the aisle now candidates for assassination you would think would usually be those people who are

00:30:04.820 sort of intransigent perhaps you know much more hard line on things rather than people who who are

00:30:11.380 much more uh collegial about these things well that is certainly interesting because the first thing

00:30:15.620 once you said she's a democrat i was like oh well okay then so it would be some sort of uh more

00:30:21.060 right-leaning person that wanted to murder her but when you said oh no she's reached across the aisle 1.00

00:30:25.060 type person well yeah it could easily be a far leftist wanting to murder her from the left

00:30:31.140 but but also the assassin being a 57 year old man is an odd is a weird thing we'll get into it in a

00:30:37.460 minute so usually young men assassins aren't they yeah nearly always always but nearly almost always

00:30:43.220 yeah um and so the the second chapter mr hoffman uh chaired the senate's human services committee he

00:30:49.700 was a fourth-term senator uh again in a reliable democrat area uh and he says quote the hallmark of

00:30:56.740 of my approach is collaboration across the aisle he wrote in a letter to his constituents last year

00:31:02.260 i firmly believe the path to progress in our state involves considering input from all perspectives

00:31:07.140 regardless of which party holds the majority why would you shoot these guys that's interesting because

00:31:12.740 that's like i kind of elaborate a rarity element that's within politics in america at the moment are

00:31:19.780 senators from the left who are willing to work with those on the right is that because they still see

00:31:24.980 that as a divide in america left right i know that we don't do it over there and we don't see it

00:31:28.420 anymore because it doesn't exist here anymore but over there they do do see that very clearly and

00:31:33.940 on a state level the state level is not really quite seen as so volcanic as as that in the national

00:31:42.020 level of when i first looked at this i thought when the representative it said a minnesota

00:31:47.060 representative and a husband i thought oh we've got someone in congress here we've got someone in the

00:31:51.220 senate but then you're going down that's like your local councillor it's a bit more powerful yeah i

00:31:56.020 know i appreciate but the concept it's definitely not the winner take all that the presidency seems to

00:32:02.020 be it's a state level not the federal level yeah um the way you asked the question why would you

00:32:07.140 maybe it's exactly that that from the left you see them as a collaborator well it doesn't look like

00:32:13.780 the guy who's a leftist that's the thing we know about we'll get into it so hoffman on his campaign

00:32:19.140 website uh so that he was particularly proud of his efforts to make it easier for people with

00:32:24.260 disabilities to get to work and described himself as quote a conscientious steward of taxpayer dollars

00:32:30.100 why are you why are you killing these guys or attempting to kill that guy uh they seem fairly

00:32:35.700 reasonable and interestingly it seems they both voted against allowing illegal immigrants from getting

00:32:41.940 free healthcare from the taxpayer so okay and they they both walked across the aisle to join the

00:32:47.860 republicans on this one um but very reasonable and sensible you can think right uh and haughtman herself

00:32:57.860 gave an interview uh shortly afterwards and i mean listen to the tone i know that people will be hurt

00:33:05.620 by that vote and i'm uh we worked very hard to try to get a budget deal that wouldn't include that provision

00:33:18.340 she's breaking down yeah just explaining that which makes it sound like i don't know someone threatened

00:33:24.420 her or something well there's something concerning there i mean obviously people get emotional about

00:33:30.580 votes and it's tiring when you're trying to negotiate particularly if you said she's crossing the aisle

00:33:36.420 working with people that's going to be emotionally uh and intellectually difficult but that sounded

00:33:42.580 something else that sounds some things much harder has she been threatened i have no idea and that's the

00:33:49.220 thing this this is all pretty up in the air at the moment so this is the doorbell camera footage of

00:33:57.220 the assassin as you can see he's dressed like a police officer he had a police car or at least a

00:34:03.780 car that looked like a police car uh that had flashing lights on it and he was wearing some sort of latex

00:34:08.420 rubber mask nightmare fuel territory yeah it's kind of like that is weird that is frightening so he

00:34:15.940 knocked on their door and they answered it and shot them and their their spouses um in his car he

00:34:23.380 apparently had a stack of the no kings flyers uh which is really sorry this is him saying he had the

00:34:30.660 police vehicle uh and apparently had a stack of these flyers in his car that had no kings written on

00:34:36.100 it it's like okay so we have a 57 year old man who somehow has access to a police car even though he

00:34:45.380 isn't a policeman um although i'll explain maybe how he got this in a minute and in this had these no

00:34:52.260 kings flyers which i mean forgive me for saying so but this kind of looks like a plant right like

00:34:58.580 this this is not oh he just happens to have all of these no kings anti-government leftist nonsense

00:35:04.580 in his car right unless he is an abstract uh radical leftist maybe but we've got some more information

00:35:10.900 about him anyway he was arrested uh he was actually uh taken into custody no emotion look at those eyes

00:35:17.060 look yeah i don't care he's saying yeah yeah this this is not something that particularly

00:35:21.540 bothers him right so what do we know about him and this is very weird so he was originally appointed to

00:35:30.260 a board of um business development board for the state of minnesota by uh 2016 and mark by mark dayton

00:35:39.620 a democrat who was then the governor and more recently he was appointed to the same board by tim waltz

00:35:44.660 who is also of course a democrat the board has 41 members it's not just democrats on the board it's

00:35:49.460 democrats and republicans and its goal is to just improve business development in the state

00:35:54.740 in 2016 he was listed as having none or other as his political affiliation and in 2020 he was listed

00:36:01.540 as having quote no party preference uh they don't have to declare their political affiliation but he

00:36:06.500 declared his as none right uh he did like know of these people we've got some evidence in there

00:36:13.460 because in 2022 uh bolter the assassin and hoffman were in a virtual meeting together for a

00:36:19.700 discussion about how the job market is supposed to be growing in the aftermath of the uh covid

00:36:23.860 pandemic so he he obviously knew the senators and was obviously involved with them in some way

00:36:30.260 on a practical basis if tim waltz and the previous uh governor who is also democrat appointed him

00:36:37.620 they're not going to appoint someone and continue to appoint them unless they feel that that

00:36:41.860 individual is working on their side well i know they say they try to have it yeah i'll explain a

00:36:46.660 bit more so um i would have thought he'd had motivations or leanings towards them at least

00:36:51.380 well it's it's hard to say because he was appointed to a business development board because

00:36:56.100 he was a businessman um he was the general manager of a 7-eleven in milleapolis uh he'd worked

00:37:02.260 with the general manager of a gas station in saint paul in 2017 he'd been an executive at an energy

00:37:07.300 company uh more recently uh more recently on his linkedin he had been the executive of a company

00:37:12.100 called red lion group that worked in the democratic republic of congo dedicate dedicated to creating

00:37:18.340 good jobs for local people according to its website that's a bit of a stretch from being a general

00:37:24.100 manager in a 7-eleven to a to a guy in the republic of congo ngo usa funded organization maybe

00:37:33.300 very very weird right um he'd apparently delivered several several sermons at a church in the democratic

00:37:39.780 republic of congo in videos that have been posted online where he appears to criticize gay and

00:37:44.260 transgender people uh in one he said quote there's people especially in america they don't know what sex

00:37:49.140 they are they don't know the sexual orientation they're confused the enemy has gotten far into their

00:37:52.660 mind and their soul weird okay that's not what a leftist no that's so why the no kings yeah and

00:38:00.500 loads of other things the more you're describing this because this is pretty much all new to me right

00:38:05.380 it doesn't add up right there's things that are explicitly anti-left about him and things that

00:38:10.340 are explicitly leftist about him yeah but also he's a business apparently some sort of businessman but

00:38:16.100 what well i mean he was a manager of a gas station and a 7-eleven but how did then

00:38:21.620 how is that that's a manager that's not well sure sure but like you know he's someone who's involved

00:38:25.860 in business and but then how do you go to running some red line group in the congo from that right

00:38:31.460 but it goes on so uh his he's had a long time friend called david carson who lives at the same

00:38:37.300 address in minneapolis where they the police executed a search warrant for bolter and he claims to have been

00:38:43.300 one of his best friends since fourth grade um and he said that he bolter rented a room for him from him

00:38:50.500 uh and he paid something like four months in advance rent for some reason for this room uh

00:38:56.580 apparently bolter had also worked in a funeral home he owned guns and had voted for president trump last

00:39:01.700 year his alleged friend says like right okay why is it the no kings thing then he's a trump voter yeah why

00:39:10.180 has he got this no kings we're against trump for being a monarch yeah what's going on here right

00:39:15.780 uh carlson had apparently received a text message he had received from bolter early on saturday morning

00:39:21.380 in which he wrote that he might be dead soon so clearly this was premeditated and of course you

00:39:25.300 can't have all the latex gear in the police officer's car and stuff like this if you haven't premeditated

00:39:30.260 this in some way so um the message did not describe any of the details of the attacks though

00:39:35.220 uh and so carlson says that bolter is a christian who strongly opposed abortion fair enough that seems

00:39:42.260 like it might add up uh he had never mentioned either of the lawmakers who were shot and had

00:39:46.740 generally avoided talking about politics apparently he'd been experiencing financial and mental health

00:39:51.380 challenges so right okay uh another interesting thing is that bolter and his wife run a private

00:39:57.940 security company in minnesota called praetorian guard security services which is presumably

00:40:05.220 where he got the police car um but there he is uh dr advance bolter

00:40:12.100 um who's involved with security situations in eastern europe africa north america in the middle east

00:40:18.100 right including the west bank southern lebanon and the gaza strip

00:40:24.100 that's not the behavior of a riotist really is it well yeah but how did he end up managing a 7-eleven

00:40:29.940 yeah well what is going on so 7-eleven you know just like a gas station yeah and then he's gone off to

00:40:38.660 you know being a church in africa funding an organization out there he's sitting on a board

00:40:45.940 belonging to the government you know that's about business when he's got no palpable isn't apart

00:40:50.580 from this this is the first time we're seeing a business and this business he's indicating

00:40:55.380 private security private security all across different parts of the world yeah how did he

00:41:00.980 get these sorts of connections right like and then throw the no kings on top of that yeah complete

00:41:07.060 curveball yeah throw the no kings on top of this the more data points you're giving me the more i'm

00:41:11.620 thinking oh he is just uh an anti-democrat rightist type person but then they say there are data points

00:41:18.260 that suggest the opposite of that i mean to be honest with you i'm starting to think that actually

00:41:22.580 he's probably a fad like you know like sorry i mean look look at this he brings great security aspect 0.98

00:41:29.940 forged by both many ground experiences combined with training both private military firms and people in

00:41:34.340 the u.s military he's worked for the largest u.s oil refinery company the world's largest food

00:41:38.980 company and the world's largest convenience-based retailer i mean are they on his linkedin

00:41:43.220 what's on his website so this is what i mean is linkedin doesn't seem did it seem to say that

00:41:49.860 you know i've worked for the largest oil company work for the largest food company in what capacity

00:41:54.180 i i worked as a security guy on the gaza strip what is going on here all right this now sounds to

00:41:59.780 indicate someone with military background hang control lots of people from military backgrounds

00:42:07.620 who've gone out to these areas have ended up doing security companies so why the background issue

00:42:12.820 no idea but it turns out his wife also worked for waltz okay which is a bit weird uh she like

00:42:20.740 that's weird she worked from in washington dc in the early 2010s when he was a congressman

00:42:25.220 okay what is going on here like 2010 15 years ago for waltz as a congressman you know it's it's a it's

00:42:35.860 a small again thing there's nothing to it necessarily but this is a bit weird right anyway so the guy

00:42:42.660 had a manifesto and as you can see it was quote mainly comprised of names okay but what was the

00:42:48.820 other bit it was comprised of uh there were lots of democrats uh listed in the manifesto uh for some

00:42:55.140 reason it's not going to be released i don't know why why is it not going to be released i would like to

00:43:01.620 know what was in the manifesto thank you very much uh because i think there might be some pertinent

00:43:07.700 information on there which i mean normally when it's a right-wing manifesto like here you go he was

00:43:13.540 a nazi well if it was a right-wing manifesto then would have had that out straight away just to

00:43:19.060 discredit the right i mean when they did that with anders in norway with his manifesto that they

00:43:25.940 couldn't get out quick enough to to turn out and paint him as a radical right-wing fascist ready to

00:43:32.340 kill anybody for his views um why more left-wing if you if you're a 57 year old man with so much

00:43:40.500 invested in like you know business and government and you are working hand in glove with all of these 0.96

00:43:46.500 things why then go and assassinate two moderates state senators as well moderate state senators or

00:43:53.060 try to assassinate one of them he survived uh who and and their wives who are working across the aisle 0.70

00:43:58.660 to and the the latest thing seems to have been to make sure that illegal immigrants don't get free 1.00

00:44:06.580 health care like this doesn't add up at all no there is definitely something about this that is

00:44:14.740 simply not being explained yeah and maybe the whole situation glows well that's what a drunk changeling

00:44:21.780 says well this clothes brighter than chernobyl it's like well that's the thing isn't it like i don't know

00:44:27.300 what like praetorian guard services and what a terrible name for protection for a security service

00:44:33.700 right like the praetorian guard will end up killing the people we're supposed to be protecting like 0.98

00:44:39.220 the praetorian guard yeah we'll extort them until they yeah yeah yeah or we'll kill them if they don't 0.98

00:44:44.180 pay we kill them but the praetorian cards like kings so why no kings well yeah like they were protecting 0.99

00:44:50.420 kings one thing well no it's it's worse the caesars and the the praetorian guards were terrible yeah uh 0.98

00:44:56.100 and they were just basically a gang that held the emperor's hostage one thing i would say um

00:45:02.580 just as a just as something to say rather than any actual real evidence or anything is that

00:45:09.700 the intelligence services what they often do with something like this if they are involved in it

00:45:13.780 what they then do is just try and layer as many layers of of obfuscation and that's what i think

00:45:21.780 the no kings thing is yeah you know just to make the story as complex as possible yeah so everyone

00:45:27.140 you have to end up saying oh well it's just weird and we don't know actually what happened or why

00:45:31.540 he just happens to have a bunch of no kings things in his but i mean yeah they're just in his boot for

00:45:36.020 some reason like and the the fact that you've got why if you're why cover yourself up why cover your

00:45:42.340 face if you're not really going to make a big deal about trying to get away like like

00:45:50.340 none of this makes any sense right so anyway uh like i said i i don't know what this is all about

00:45:58.820 um frankly it glows but why target these two people you know i mean you seem quite innocent

00:46:05.700 about it but she was petrified it's like she's already been informed of something yeah yeah

00:46:10.580 she's been told about something yeah maybe it's to send messages to other democrats like don't cross

00:46:16.420 the aisle maybe because this is what will happen to you if you do but maybe it's something like

00:46:21.140 pharmaceutical companies like hang on a second that's money we're not going to get from giving

00:46:26.340 you know medical aid to illegals or something i don't know you know who knows but like there's

00:46:32.740 clearly something in the background here that's gone but it's a story for a big investigative

00:46:36.900 journalist to get involved in america who understands this and get that gets behind it

00:46:41.140 because there needs to be more about in-depth of these individuals one of the things i do often

00:46:44.900 find about the states so when you get these characters like the people who attempted to assassinate

00:46:50.420 trump we don't really know a great deal about their real background and it disappears

00:46:55.780 we see the name the interest goes but we never get to see a full documentary story about

00:47:02.500 these individuals where they are what the background we don't hear the families who

00:47:05.860 have talked about them where they grew up in school anything like that and then of course

00:47:10.260 we all get the plants we've seen the movies where they plant individuals to give what about this

00:47:15.060 friend do we actually know he was a friend no we don't that's that's why i called him allegedly

00:47:18.900 because i mean the new york times just says well his friend from grade four but we only have his

00:47:23.540 friend's word that he is his friend and he is okay but this guy was appointed by tim waltz and another

00:47:29.860 democrat and yet suddenly he you know but in fact he's actually like a trump supporter who's very

00:47:34.820 much against abortion and stuff like that it's like really i mean but who didn't talk about politics

00:47:38.660 apparently it's like okay okay like and his wife works for tim tim waltz and yeah 2010 when she would

00:47:46.260 have been early to mid 30s looking at their age group which meant that she must have picked that up

00:47:51.380 at least being political in her 20s at university to get into there because you just don't walk in 0.94

00:47:57.060 to working for a congressman unless either you're part of the party apparatchik and you've grown there

00:48:02.260 through early campaigning or you've been funded by mum and dad who's given a big donation into the

00:48:08.260 congressman or senator to get you to work he manages a petrol station and then he's in central africa

00:48:15.620 and also doing security elsewhere which central was it congo congo yeah well there was military uh kind

00:48:22.180 of intelligence out there there was warfare's thing with congo was he doing that you know before

00:48:28.580 like after being a manager of a 7-eleven like what what are you talking about it's definitely weird to

00:48:33.380 be involved in private military contracting and managing a 7-eleven just that yeah yeah yeah how

00:48:40.180 does that happen yeah yeah one of those or both of those are not true surely how can they both be

00:48:44.900 true was he was he being a priest in the congo a cover a cover where he talks about game

00:48:49.780 right whilst he went out and tried to shoot the russians who were there at the same time

00:48:53.780 no idea um but anyway so unfortunately uh unsatisfactory as it is uh there's i have no

00:49:00.660 idea i just want to lay out just the strange contradictions and weird data points of this

00:49:06.020 because it is it is absolutely not at all self-evident as to what's happened here so anyway um but can i

00:49:12.340 have that uh mouse please um sigil stone says he probably bought the second the police car by buying

00:49:17.860 second hand yeah i was thinking uh the surplus thing yeah police department sell yeah military

00:49:22.340 surplus um and says i don't know what this guy looks like because every time his photo is shown my

00:49:26.900 screen blazes with a blinding green light uh yeah honestly uh who knows right like this is there is a

00:49:36.260 very long deep story behind all of this a 57 year old guy doesn't just go and shoot two moderate

00:49:42.500 state senators over nothing and the fact that she came out a couple of days before looking terrified 0.98

00:49:48.180 makes me think this is about money there's my contract and she was threatened and even if he does

00:49:53.700 glow that still raises loads more questions yeah exactly like which organization is he some sort of 0.94

00:50:00.260 asset for and how is it in their interest in any way yeah to kill these couple of people yeah uh

00:50:06.500 yeah huge unanswered questions but anyway we'll move on or could there be a law case we've seen them

00:50:10.980 where they're actually someone who's going to be found out in a big company and they don't want to

00:50:15.540 hidden in terms of this could be any number of things okay grooming gangs grooming gangs two words

00:50:26.180 two words that we as adults should be frightened of should be angry about should be really aggressively

00:50:35.140 pursuing those people involved in the grooming gangs it should be something that you'd expect the

00:50:40.580 police to be jumping on straight away social services and councils to be able to work every

00:50:46.100 single day to annihilate and remove the grooming gangs i'm far too long in the tooth to think that yeah

00:50:53.060 and i i think about it as terms of our natural history of as a country that within us we should

00:50:58.020 be capable of saying grooming gangs is is not acceptable but as we see on this in terms of katie lamb 0.96

00:51:06.900 most grooming gangs very clearly white very clearly working class very clearly mainly northern cities

00:51:13.140 although there are spread across it but grooming gangs there we know existed and it's been there for a long

00:51:19.300 time thing is we know that this data is highly faulty

00:51:25.060 as in so it was something like 40 percent of them they don't record the ethnicity

00:51:29.220 no it's like why would you not do that and i think that's particularly an image that when we

00:51:39.140 look at it and when i look at it i still think about those men how many of them there are i mean

00:51:43.700 we can evil they are we can literally look at the people who are arrested yeah and actually charged

00:51:47.940 and be like right okay so most of them are pakistanis these are the ones that were caught 0.88

00:51:51.380 this is the evil that sits around us stands around us passes us on the streets and therefore again

00:51:58.580 once again why are we not seemingly having a country that is just up in arms chasing down every one of

00:52:04.740 these looking after them one quick thing to say is that they'll only be the tip of the iceberg they're

00:52:09.540 the only the ones that the cps can get a prosecution against yeah there'll be 10 100 times more

00:52:16.100 men involved and we estimate 250 000 girls over the past 20 years we look at over 50 towns in which

00:52:26.420 these have been crimes committed by these types of people but instead of what we're feeling morally

00:52:33.460 angry about and morally unacceptable and we feel that we should be saying right from the start something

00:52:39.620 should have been done and why wasn't it we have a prime minister that when it was raised early on in

00:52:44.900 this year uh simply turned around and denied it denied that there should be an opportunity

00:52:52.500 to pursue these properly through a national grooming gang inquiry despite the fact that

00:52:58.500 everybody had been calling for it prior to that the work had been done people like tommy

00:53:03.300 robinson who'd come out in the early days have identified this in luton in his local area spread

00:53:09.060 it across across the country talking about different areas and we've known through victims of

00:53:14.420 themselves coming through but no and of course a naggy oliver inquiry professor j carried out for 1.00

00:53:20.900 seven years had 20 recommendations none of which actually were implemented uh by the party opposite

00:53:26.660 when they were uh in government now this is a really serious issue we must focus obviously

00:53:34.740 on the victims and survivors um there's no fixed view on the victims and survivors about a further

00:53:40.900 national um inquiry there are mixed views um but there is a view and i share this view that what is

00:53:47.380 needed now is action on what we already know we already know myself from personal knowledge when i

00:53:54.260 was chief prosecutor i'm going to stop that when he talks about chief prosecutor the chief prosecutor

00:53:59.860 that ignored most of the offenses that went out there a chief prosecutor only one individual to pursue a

00:54:05.220 a few of them whilst he was there and what i look on this when he tries to first of all say we've

00:54:10.900 already had inquiries there weren't and and i've looked at those inquiries i looked at the casey reports

00:54:16.820 not one of those inquiries dealt specifically with a national recommendation to deal with pakistan

00:54:23.300 and grooming gangs it talked in generalities about crime it didn't specifically deal with the cases of

00:54:29.220 these individuals and it certainly didn't look at the way that people have been ignored and those

00:54:34.420 people complicit with the cases whether there's the civil servants the probation the police the

00:54:39.380 councillors it ignored all of them and i look at the nodding dogs in this their heads nodding away 0.89

00:54:45.620 like pathetic little children in the big of a plainfield and one of them who supposedly says that 0.94

00:54:50.820 we i protect women look after women turning around saying zero about the inquiries but it's very clear 0.96

00:54:57.460 here we have a prime minister only in january turns around and says i'm not interested and we're not

00:55:01.140 going to deal with it is it to do with the fact of the nationality of the people in the picture we

00:55:05.460 saw before or are we being generous saying no he feels that it's nothing to to deal with at the

00:55:10.900 moment the after all he said in his words there that those victims didn't really want another so

00:55:18.100 there are a few just glaring obvious points here the first being yeah we know what the nationality

00:55:23.380 of the agreement gang is i mean that's not been a secret for a long time um but you can see why

00:55:28.740 the prime minister of the labor party but like we don't need any further inquiries yeah because the

00:55:34.660 further inquiries will reveal the complicity and the the linkage between the labor party and the gangs

00:55:40.580 themselves that's the issue someone sorry it will just show that you guys are culpable um someone like

00:55:47.460 maggie oliver has done sterling work over the years on this stuff and uh you know most people

00:55:52.340 like us say we want to see actual people brought to account we want individual dozens hundreds maybe

00:55:58.420 thousands of individual uh policemen counselors people even at the cps social services social services

00:56:07.300 to be brought least of all the actual criminals the actual men all of them brought to account

00:56:12.260 uh a true bringing it bringing it out into the light of day truly for real there are a bunch of

00:56:19.860 them where like it would be a 10 year old girl who's being groomed they'd be like okay she's a

00:56:23.300 prostitute no no she's not she's a victim there's no such thing as a 10 year old prostitute absolutely 0.94

00:56:28.980 and that's why i say those two words are a national scandal and those two words are a historic national 0.95

00:56:35.380 scandal and those two words are the things that drive us primarily you on the show for before i arrived

00:56:42.020 and many of your presenters have pushed this as an agenda along with others like maggie oliver

00:56:46.260 that it should never leave the public consciousness because of the vile aspects of it and the reason

00:56:51.860 that we are who we are which is wanting to have a just solution to this a just cause for these people

00:56:58.340 in recent times even um elon and rupert lowe sort of insisting that it's i'm gonna come come through

00:57:04.660 through bits of that one other quick thing i'll say is um i mean you might may well know more about

00:57:08.900 this than me being a manchester man uh but there were a few very very small number of i think senior

00:57:15.460 manchester police that were sort of essentially forced to retire early like that's it that's it

00:57:21.860 that's that's the only real justice that has been seen and it's just not good enough is it no

00:57:27.140 it's not not what's good enough is obviously we see the prime minister there saying i don't want it

00:57:31.860 i i don't see back in january in january and then i thought i also had the uh there there we are and

00:57:41.460 then this vile a human being who and i i i say this uh you know with a few words it accepts powell's

00:57:49.380 apology do you think it was uh vacuous powell who turned around and said it was a dog whistle you know if

00:57:55.460 you any of you pause it if you want to talk because sorry we can't hear you so in the in

00:58:00.100 this particular incident we remember lucy powell and mp turning around and saying it's a dog whistle

00:58:05.060 if you raise the issue of it you had kia starmer said it was a far-right bandwagon prime minister

00:58:09.940 turning around and saying it's a far-right aspect about it and i think you know we come in this so

00:58:16.180 we have this and then all of a sudden just over the weekend we have the prime minister now announcing a

00:58:22.180 national inquiry into grooming grounds and i'm happy for that well yes i'm delighted finally

00:58:28.100 he had to be pressured into it yep that was the way the guardian framed it kia starmer

00:58:33.540 caves to the pressure it's like okay but where was the pressure coming from it wasn't from nigel 1.00

00:58:37.060 farage and reform no it was coming from rupert lowe the fact that he raised 600 000 pounds and is

00:58:43.060 currently conducting his own non-statutory national inquiry into it and apparently hundreds of victims

00:58:49.220 have come forward loads of stuff has come out already uh that they've got that they're gonna

00:58:52.980 release and so like you can see where he's like well okay i'm gonna i've been dragged into this by

00:59:00.020 just one random backbench mp who's just not prepared to let the issue go yeah this is a prime minister

00:59:05.060 that has tried to hide everything so far when it comes to like charging people and removing the benefits

00:59:10.740 for old age pensioners for heating allowance he's been made to do a u-turn on that and so many different

00:59:16.900 u-turns but not only that he goes a little bit further than just announcing a grooming gang he

00:59:22.500 goes wants to say now we're going to have a new police operation to target the grooming gangs

00:59:27.700 nationwide well i already thought we had one of those i thought yeah when he talked about his speeches

00:59:33.140 and he gave those speeches he already said we're already targeting it didn't we actually say we need

00:59:37.380 action we're taking action so why is it now that we have this new police force led by the national

00:59:43.140 crime agency isn't that their job in the first instance isn't their job to analyze what are the

00:59:49.060 biggest crimes that we've got in this country and i would have put grooming gangs at the top

00:59:53.780 you know obviously and i would have put that above drug dealing to be honest it's got to be way above

00:59:58.580 it you know drug dealing's bad but it's not like this yeah raping young girls is worse than actually 0.97

01:00:06.100 someone snorting cocaine yes i want to deal with them both i want it all out of the way i want to deal

01:00:11.460 with that because it leads to murder and aiding abetting deaths in other one's way worse this is

01:00:16.420 way serious so why is it only now it's not just rape it's often gang rape or even torture and stuff

01:00:22.260 yeah but you absolutely raise the good point why this extra level of policing now oh yeah i thought

01:00:28.660 we haven't had a national inquiry before but there have been other sort of investigations and inquiries

01:00:32.340 internally and i thought they came to the conclusion that we've sorted it all out now and we've got our

01:00:37.540 house in order now and it won't happen again we were told that weren't we a number of times

01:00:41.860 absolutely and i think it's coming down to some of the things we've already touched upon

01:00:45.700 first of all might be but if i get that use the right right button thing it's it's a little bit

01:00:50.660 it's a lot easier a lot easier to do that if i it's next isn't on there

01:00:57.700 well maybe not i don't know which is the next one there we go so we start obviously this i i i think

01:01:04.740 you know when we play this i'm gonna let people hear it obviously they've heard it this was tucker

01:01:08.660 carlson october 7th uh last year you know this was for the rejection in britain they're i kid you

01:01:18.740 not how can this be real they are releasing convicted pedophiles from prison in order to put people in

01:01:25.300 prison for facebook posts there there were and this is this i'm sort of stating a fact that there were um

01:01:31.060 um migrant rape gangs in yes in england that were gangs that would run around and prey on young girls

01:01:40.660 gang rape them and some people found that objectionable yeah people found that objectionable 0.93

01:01:48.580 but it takes an american uh citizen a south african with a lot of money to actually suddenly concern the 0.90

01:01:57.460 elites in this country it was more the size of his platform yeah the 200 million people were

01:02:01.540 suddenly seeing elon going on a rampage on new year's day about rape gangs in england it must

01:02:06.500 have been an absolute nightmare for the labor party and not only that it opened up the doors for america

01:02:12.260 and people like don keith the real don keith and others then all across we saw them big speakers in

01:02:18.020 america in right up to trump himself talking about this particular issue so the pressure been done for

01:02:24.340 years from the likes of tommy robinson and others but also the women themselves and then i remember

01:02:29.300 this particular one starmer was complicit with the rape of britain when he was head of the crown

01:02:33.460 prosecution this caused a massive storm within the labor party but now we've got this political pressure

01:02:40.100 that's being applied on the government on the civil service for something that they've ignored

01:02:45.300 by a man with a platform power and influence in the united states and if you remember rightly they were

01:02:50.740 saying oh this could have a real impact on mandelson as his and as the ambassador and i think that was

01:02:56.660 one of the big pushing points and then the women continued the women didn't give up and we should be

01:03:04.740 honoring these people if there's anyone that should be getting knighthoods anyone getting mbes anyone

01:03:09.220 getting obes anyone should be lauded it is people like this who went out and carried on raging and i i don't

01:03:16.740 know whether we should let me watch yeah no i this this one i haven't seen that how can you sit there

01:03:22.660 and deny everything you said that everything you've done how can you do it you can't even look me

01:03:28.580 in the face can you look look for all the hair you've done to us girls all the hair just give me 1.00

01:03:37.540 god's living now with our families you've done nothing to support us nothing to support i had to go to

01:03:44.580 my own absolutely so all across the country you know whether it's new organizations like the women's 0.59

01:04:00.980 safety uk or those who talked about maggie oliver but it's these women who have been fighting on their

01:04:07.860 own really with no mass organization to help them until only the past couple of years that had to go to

01:04:12.980 council meetings like that and rage to the people who were in their jobs who didn't do their jobs

01:04:18.260 i'd like to see the picture of those individuals because instead of having an image of all those

01:04:23.700 pakistanis who committed the crime we should be also having images of all those people who did

01:04:28.500 nothing you know the councillors police inspectors and um overseas whatever they call them so all of the

01:04:35.940 the entire edifice is just disgusting absolutely disgusting and i would i would like to see a billboard

01:04:42.660 in the center of any town with all their faces and i quite frankly don't care about gdp or don't 0.79

01:04:47.860 care about their lives these people ignored women like that but they carried on fighting

01:04:52.340 ilongos may have had the power but without their groundwork carrying on and these people here i won't 1.00

01:04:57.780 i won't play this this is in february a million women march rally across the country demanding a national

01:05:03.860 women having to come out you know to say we're women we've been abused we're we've been raped 0.92

01:05:09.140 literally the victims that were yeah suppressed by the institutions like the the grooming gangs

01:05:15.620 themselves were allowed to just victimize them for years and now there's just so many of them

01:05:19.620 they're like look we need we demand justice it's like a plague there is literally a plague on these

01:05:25.060 children all across the country and the women across this country and we've gone back and we've seen

01:05:29.460 what our politicians have done and it's taken their continued hard work and we must never take that

01:05:34.340 away from them as i say i think every one of them should be honored for what they're doing

01:05:38.900 what a remarkable thing it is that sir keir starmer uh his majesty's prime minister was head of the cps

01:05:46.100 at that time that's crazy it's not like he was some rural mp that didn't have any grooming in on his

01:05:52.500 patch it wasn't that no he was head of the cps madness the crowd prosecution service i mean he could

01:05:57.460 have had a national inquiry at that time it was his job using his office to prosecute those people

01:06:03.220 it's like when you get an ex uh home secretary saying oh i couldn't do anything about the

01:06:08.340 the boat people it's like no you could have done yes pretty you could have done well my understanding

01:06:13.140 of it is that as the head of the the cps and the dpp you have a responsibility to be able to discuss with

01:06:20.580 chief constables across the country what are their priorities in terms of offenses and cases and how are

01:06:26.100 we going to deal with those priorities in getting the natural resources to be able to handle any

01:06:30.980 offenses so for me it strikes me as unusual at the very least to suggest that there wasn't that

01:06:37.700 capability and knowledge that they're all these offenses in 50 towns were going on and therefore

01:06:41.860 there needed to be some cohesive kind of program in place to support the police in terms of charging

01:06:48.500 and the lack of interest and that's what i think it was i think it was other other resources other

01:06:54.500 issues were far more important to them and why is it far more important to them all through the

01:07:00.100 blair years these these women were just derided yeah uh when they were girls they were derided as 1.00

01:07:05.540 just being low quality low class they were the ones causing trouble they were prostitutes they were 1.00

01:07:10.580 just promiscuous they were promiscuous they they were you know drug addicts they deserved it 0.97

01:07:15.700 you know they and there was a there was a particular uh line that i can't remember who who it was

01:07:21.460 wasn't the labor party someone's they they've chosen this lifestyle is the the term that was used

01:07:26.980 and it's like and wasn't there another labor mp that said they should shut up oh that was now shut

01:07:32.100 yeah shut up for the sake of diversity yeah but uh but this is why i'm uh all the more patriarchal

01:07:39.060 than i used to be no children don't choose like that 10 year olds don't choose and even if they could 0.86

01:07:43.540 choose they shouldn't choose so anyway and even if they could choose it's our responsibility as adults to

01:07:48.660 take them and remove them from that danger because that's what we do as adults that's what we do as

01:07:53.540 a caring society and so we should continue to remain angry um but then of course you've talked about it

01:08:00.660 the rape gang inquiry from from rupert low initial evidence submission and i you've you're quite right

01:08:05.860 to have pointed this out already there are really important elements to this about that inquiry by rupert

01:08:11.540 low so you've got the pressure from elon musk and the americans you have the girls and the women who've 0.82

01:08:16.020 been campaigning for for a long time persistent and then we have the rupert low issue and i think

01:08:21.780 here with sammy woodhouse so we know herself you know a victim has gone out traveling the country as

01:08:27.060 part of the work of the rape gang inquiry and gathering that evidence carl that you've talked

01:08:31.460 about very clearly to keep the pressure out it's been released yeah slowly and surely we're seeing more

01:08:37.300 of this and and and the fact out there that that governments were still trying to ignore it but i think

01:08:42.980 these kind of amounts to the levels of drip drip pressure that are coming into this but there's a

01:08:48.820 little bit more to it i think now the grooming inquiry come here is that this is one of the

01:08:55.780 quotes that are coming out baroness casey when she first got the job from keir starmer says here

01:09:01.700 was not really that interested in having another inquiry she basically was saying i don't think there

01:09:07.140 is a need to do but i'm going to do it i'm going to look at it i i think so far everything that i've

01:09:11.940 seen doesn't lead me to view that that was the case and indeed there was a you know i think it's

01:09:17.780 the minister for education who's been put out today and across the ways is saying exactly that

01:09:22.740 baroness casey did not think there was a need for a new inquiry at the time but now

01:09:28.420 this is sort of the problem this is my reservation about the whole thing of course i want justice yeah

01:09:34.100 of course there's a problem though with this often this type of national inquiry i mean to the

01:09:40.900 the point where it is cliche in the 70s or 80s that yes minister or yes prime minister will talk

01:09:45.620 about it is that what they do is they pick the right person to head to the inquiry yeah like

01:09:51.460 picking the right judge you pick the right person and at the end of it all they come to conclusions

01:09:58.180 that are in the interest of the establishment they're in the interest of still not getting any

01:10:02.980 justice and then they can say you've had your national inquiry all the investigation has been done

01:10:07.540 there's nothing there's literally nothing more that can be done from a judicial point of view

01:10:11.300 now go away and shut up forever and i think and i fear yeah because you know like the various 0.90

01:10:16.180 inquiries they had about the iraq war or the covert inquiry just pure whitewash an exercise in whitewash 0.88

01:10:22.100 that's what i think i would like i i welcome a national inquiry i want justice yeah will this deliver that

01:10:29.460 i don't know but i think it won't i feel it will be once again an exercise in a whitewash and you

01:10:34.820 have got one of the most incredibly strong points about that appointing someone because i i take this

01:10:40.340 and the previous uh clip baroness casey known for all the reviews that she's done seen as a safe pair 0.99

01:10:47.140 of hands a classic uh civil servant so far has done the job on a number of reviews including including as

01:10:53.300 you said that the the rotherham sexual exploitation cases her own review which i said said nothing really

01:10:58.900 of any import hence the reason why the conservatives didn't implement anything and there she was at the

01:11:03.300 beginning saying i don't want to have any any inquiry i don't think i'll need a national inquiry

01:11:09.140 so it's exactly the point they've chosen that safe pair of hands bow just as you said i've got the right

01:11:13.860 person we all respect her both sides and if she doesn't do a job then okay we can we can say she's

01:11:19.140 looked at it properly but you know maggie oliver goes out and says i had two private meetings with

01:11:25.540 baroness casey past three months taken 10 survivors to meet her share horrific experiences she called me

01:11:31.780 yesterday to update me what has changed what has taken the career safe hand we're going to put her 0.99

01:11:38.180 in place and i think this is where i'm going to end move towards to show you that she's actually seen

01:11:44.180 this she's seen the women she's now opened her eyes she's one of those elite middle-class women who 0.99

01:11:48.580 didn't think it existed and it was all as you said carl these are just the the poor scum of the earth 0.98

01:11:53.540 working-class white girls who brought it on themselves maybe she didn't genuinely in a sight side feel it 0.97

01:11:59.220 those were her words but intrinsically there's a kind of snobbery up there isn't there 100 there's

01:12:05.060 100 snobbery that they that's what they are they live down yes hugely class issue and i think she

01:12:11.700 may well have started to understand that this was a level of brutality that surpassed anything in our

01:12:18.660 history and you know we need to look at it fingers crossed that's the case fingers crossed and i think

01:12:25.380 there's another reason why labor's suddenly changed i think she might start to see there is a link

01:12:30.260 between illegal migration with the violence perpetrated against the girls okay but there's

01:12:34.260 a link between legal migration which is much more important yeah but i think they're also linking too

01:12:39.060 which gives two and i don't know about this obviously none of us have seen what she said

01:12:43.780 i haven't seen the the the evidential criminality numbers about it that would link illegal migration but

01:12:49.460 if both of them are in there the legal migrants that we've got and the illegal migrants 0.73

01:12:53.300 it now creates an enormous headache for the labor party in a party the same we need to stop the

01:12:58.020 boats and they're going to just basically sign through hundreds of 30 000 people are going to

01:13:02.740 get granted asylum so we can shove them out of hotels and put them into housing across the country 1.00

01:13:08.580 and i i'm trying to move 66 percent of brits believe the officials involved should be jailed

01:13:15.300 yeah quite right absolutely 100 we want justice for them but and now we've also got the civil service

01:13:24.260 so i'm going to turn around and find what are the reasons now that they're coming out first of all i

01:13:28.980 think carl you that's exactly what they they said is that get the safe pair of hands let's brush it

01:13:35.380 aside the safe pair of hands is now bought there's something there that she's going to come out and she's

01:13:40.980 given the prime minister and a team saying i'm going to i'm going to have the national inquiry

01:13:44.900 something needs to be done then we have people turning around saying we should be jailing

01:13:50.980 all these civil servants and then we have what dominic cummings said at all those mass cover-ups

01:13:57.460 of the whole thing for the same reason that we've already alluded to fear um fear of the political

01:14:02.900 consequences of facing reality what i saw in 2011 i mean a lot of different things well normally white hall

01:14:08.980 the store the cliche that it's a cock up not a conspiracy is generally true the one ex the one

01:14:16.100 big exception i would say is regarding uh child abuse where there are actually multiple conspiracies

01:14:21.620 constantly and largely successful i watch these happening repeatedly in the department of education

01:14:28.260 because the issue was parked there by gordon brown and ed balls so i had to deal with it when i was there

01:14:33.460 i would watch the redacted documents and the actual unredacted documents about lots of these

01:14:38.740 cases and you could see that the redacted documents are redacted entirely to hide the incompetence of

01:14:45.300 the of the system now what happened on the gangs is that when andrew norfolk at the times started to

01:14:51.140 try to report the issue the council went to officials inside the department of education and said

01:14:58.340 we want to bring a judicial review to have the courts suppress the times reporting and not allow it to happen

01:15:05.300 right cummings in there some like him some don't i personally mix views i quite like him on some

01:15:12.820 things many many many times on on this issue he's beginning to highlight not the cock-up theory which

01:15:19.780 we've all talked about but a deliberate a deliberate cover-up first of all in terms of the redacted and

01:15:25.700 under-redacted uh documents secondly the talk about councils councils seeking judicial reviews to suppress the

01:15:32.500 media's cases about it and then he goes on and because i didn't want to play it for too long he

01:15:37.620 then talks about how within the department of education and government they had one side yes

01:15:41.860 let's suppress them another side saying this is appalling and what i think we've got to look at

01:15:48.020 is not only as the safe pair of hands first of all said we're having the grooming gangs and that 60

01:15:54.900 of the people believe they people should be jailed and here we have an individual within government

01:15:59.380 saying there was definitely a conspiracy the reason they're calling it is is because they now

01:16:04.580 need to get hold of the narrative yeah they want to get there so that they can take take control to

01:16:10.660 start suppressing the ideas that these people should be imprisoned and start to decipher which

01:16:17.540 individuals are going to be thrown to the dogs which ones are going to be saved and who can we find

01:16:23.300 out as the sacrificial lambs that's stage one of this inquiry would be nice if dominic had done a bit

01:16:28.420 more at the time when he was actually in power wouldn't it would be nice being a bit more vocal

01:16:32.180 at the time yeah in the interest of time we're going to have to move on there so i'm moving rapidly

01:16:37.220 point two um you've got the gang inquiry here from rupert lowe he's listed out a whole series of

01:16:44.180 questions and i think this is important another reason why they want to get hold of the narrative

01:16:49.540 is they want to be able to put their own evidence and control the evidence control the people

01:16:53.780 control the evidence so that we can get the conclusions that protect at least some but if not

01:16:58.820 all of it uh also i think a third point is that polling is suggesting that reform despite the fact

01:17:07.860 reform haven't really done very much on this apart from rupert lowe at all have gained ground in

01:17:12.500 constituency so there is a political reason to say the labour party are tarnished with this

01:17:18.980 in so many ways on that and i think really this is incredible for me is when i look at this this

01:17:28.020 research that was done about the polling how people turn around and say a third of labour party voters

01:17:34.100 think that labour were covering up the yeah a third of them think that the authorities were covering it up

01:17:41.860 because they're scared of being racist or inflaming community tensions of course you'd expect more from 0.95

01:17:47.540 reform there we go and you'd expect a little ridiculous green party yeah sickening it's 0.99

01:17:52.500 disgusting i despise them yeah i do yeah i mean you just got to look at look at them and even even the 0.97

01:17:58.500 liberal democrats yeah which is not a party generally that i see as being friendly towards working class 0.92

01:18:03.860 individuals at all basically no one's buying that it was properly investigated yeah hardly anyone actually

01:18:10.020 buys that either they were covering up or it was incompetent say like well i mean like three

01:18:17.780 quarters of people yeah only a quarter of people like well you know but look at the numbers some some

01:18:25.620 you know eight percent of labour think it was properly investigated by the authorities now okay that's

01:18:31.460 that's relatively small numbers but i'm looking at those stats and i see that even in the labour

01:18:36.020 party it's one of the lowest numbers obviously the green party is the lowest number of people that

01:18:39.460 think it was deliberately covered up i'm glad that they see 35 but for me it's still shocking that

01:18:44.980 there is only 35 it's shocking that i don't see them all up there at 70s and 80 because it's clear

01:18:52.340 not just from what dominic cummings has said not because we know about the way of weapons of mass

01:18:57.460 destruction which was a deliberate lie by our by our elites to take us into an illegal war not because we know

01:19:03.460 historically but because we've got something as dangerous as this and and i think at the end i'm

01:19:09.540 going to finish with this this is uh samantha smith on x um labour does not speak to me labour did not

01:19:15.940 fight for me when i was groomed and abused nor the thousands of children

01:19:22.180 abused and killed and i you know it's slightly emotional to think about it it is slightly emotional

01:19:29.060 she's gone through it labour just didn't care until it became politically inconvenient for them 0.87

01:19:34.660 and it's been politically convenient for them honestly i think that's given too much credit i

01:19:38.580 think they're in favor of it until it became too much of a hot issue now that they've been dragged into

01:19:43.220 it anyway um there we go let's uh let's go to the video comments samson um

01:19:48.420 um heroesin chin ban uh says uh just vote for reform uk z you so for save your daughters

01:19:54.180 yeah i tell you i'm annoyed at reform desperately trying to claim credit for any of this they are

01:20:00.660 not responsible there's frage just oh we'll do an inquiry okay where is it nigel nothing happens 0.96

01:20:05.460 low has to do after you've kicked him out yeah it's disgusting anyway let's uh let's go to the

01:20:10.340 first video comment you got more questions but i tell it if you have a problem figuring out whether

01:20:14.420 you're from me or trump and you ain't black i have no idea about any of this but apparently the the new

01:20:39.460 black panther's white i heard that in really in the comic no really yeah i think it someone i think

01:20:47.940 harry briefly so told me that the the drawer of it the artist of it is a black guy yeah and he he's

01:20:55.060 he's like pissed off with it's just gone too far as far as he's concerned oh really to spit in their

01:21:01.220 eyes he's the new black panther characters is a white boy it's good i don't know if that's true

01:21:05.780 that's good i like that his answer to woke is by being anti-woke yeah oh brilliant let's go to the

01:21:12.820 next one now this is a lincoln cathedral chapel for the nhs

01:21:24.340 yeah i was gonna join me in praying praying for the nhs

01:21:28.500 i mean it literally is our only religion at this point oh my gosh so tired of it man yeah it's quite

01:21:34.180 literally just so to worship it yeah yeah it's sacred it really is sorry god george fraser starts

01:21:43.940 with the tale of diana the goddess of the hunt whose grove in italy was overseen by a priest who

01:21:48.900 exceeded the role by murdering the previous priest thus becoming likewise vulnerable he then embarks on

01:21:54.500 a worldwide analysis of magic and religion to understand the themes at play and where they

01:21:58.580 are similar either by believing in the same things or a remarkable inverse astonishing is the

01:22:03.700 universality of belief in and function of the soul eventually leading fraser back to europe and

01:22:08.980 the mistletoe which is the golden bow of the title a very magical plant

01:22:14.980 i've never even heard of that very interesting now let's go to the next one

01:22:19.300 i couldn't actually hear where that was no very nice though yeah even something as small scale as

01:22:47.620 that we don't really have anything like it in very rarely yeah yeah i like it when people send in

01:22:53.540 yeah so anyway let's let's get to the written comments um lots of people were upset by the drills

01:22:59.780 frogger says we were better drilled in cadets 25 years ago when we practice once a week uh two for

01:23:05.380 those in the guard uh which were with those fun old vintage enfields uh michael says the former army nco

01:23:11.780 i find it disgraceful this lack of discipline honestly i was watching it like exactly that it's like

01:23:17.300 why are they just slouching along they've been warned of this for months and here are active

01:23:21.940 duty units march like one weekend a month uh like national guardsmen um arizona desert rat says i

01:23:28.420 think eisenhower put it best when asked why he never held military parades like the soviets during

01:23:32.180 the cold war he said something along the lines of that he doesn't need to hold a parade to know how

01:23:35.940 much strong the military is uh sure and i fine that's totally reasonable but if you're going to hold a

01:23:41.220 military parade do it properly do you remember like you say when i was both in cub scouts and air

01:23:46.260 cadets they're like this is how you hold your hand this is how you and this is like the tempo of the

01:23:51.540 step and you all do it together again and again and again and again until you're perfectly in in

01:23:56.420 unison and lockstep and like we're like 13 years old or whatever being like how can the actual soldiers

01:24:02.900 not do it i don't know yeah um bleak steven says well the only excuse and it's a poor one is that

01:24:09.140 the a3 degree fahrenheit and 75 humidity day of the parade not the most conducive to keeping everyone

01:24:14.180 in the spirits spirits celebrate the 250th anniversary of the year tsunami thing is right

01:24:18.820 it's not about being conducive to the spirit it's like no you have a job you have to do it and if you

01:24:24.180 pass out then fair enough uh but i've got no no actually no it's not like you know no i'm not

01:24:30.500 volunteering this is going no no you have to do this uh martin says i think it's important to

01:24:35.060 remember they've had years of left-wing meddling demoralization maybe but i don't think that's an

01:24:40.500 excuse you know even if you're diverse gender queer soldiers you have to march properly um 0.91

01:24:48.980 federal agent says bolts are having these connections from being a 7-eleven manager

01:24:53.060 feels a lot like how epstein was hired to teach at the most elite private school in new york

01:24:57.460 despite being an italic unqualified college dropout yeah it's a really weird thing isn't it yeah the

01:25:02.980 headmaster at the time was donald bar a former oss officer and father of bill bar who just happened

01:25:07.060 to be the attorney general during the epstein trial point that's a weird connection it's a weird connection

01:25:13.620 yeah danny says uh something interesting to note for the association assassination it was a ceo of

01:25:19.540 security company with clearance in the congo yet never awarded any contracts either foreign or domestic

01:25:24.420 how does that add up it's very weird this is all very very weird um colin says praetorian guard

01:25:33.300 named after the troops who protected the emperor of rome odd name for someone believes in no kings

01:25:38.020 i know it's none of this is adding up no no not at all uh he says the government refused to release

01:25:43.780 the manifesto tells us all we need to know uh yeah well to be honest with you that's the thing isn't it

01:25:47.700 it's like look you know i know that he's not like a doctrine of rightist or else you would have

01:25:52.340 been like look at how evil these people are which is you remember the trans shooter who shot like six

01:25:58.020 kids or whatever yeah and uh then got shot and it took like literally a year to get the manifesto 0.99

01:26:03.780 out and it was all just i hate white people i hate straight people i hate america yeah well we know 0.96

01:26:09.060 that's what they believe and when it is something that is would be in their interest they release it 0.98

01:26:13.220 like dylan roof like you actually can see the interview with dylan roof with the police they released the

01:26:18.660 actual interview or um or if it's uh neither here nor there like for example i think of the

01:26:24.900 virginia tech shooter uh they'll just release his video yeah um talking about why what he thinks and

01:26:32.260 why he did it and all that sort of thing um so yeah it does it is extremely revealing and telling that

01:26:37.140 they're not revealing this dude's manifesto yeah yeah i mean what's the reason not to all right you

01:26:44.180 remember the las vegas shooter you use another one like trump's shooter just sweep it under the

01:26:48.580 carpet don't worry about him and what his connections were to the fbi or anything like

01:26:52.020 that don't worry yes so much ammo and you know just equipment up all this it's just a question that

01:26:57.780 hangs in the air and is never answered um michael says uh isn't it marvelous how it's expected that

01:27:04.020 we can't concentrate on more than one thing at a time well there's more than just grooming gags going

01:27:07.940 on yes and we're pissed about that too we can concentrate on two things at once i even donated to

01:27:12.420 lowe's campaign to investigate the grooming gangs um well done yeah yeah good job man of kent says

01:27:17.940 uh the prime minister has only done this now because he's made sure he can't be held accountable for the

01:27:21.620 actions uh that he took while what's happened while he was the crown the head of the crown prosecution

01:27:26.820 service i don't know i i genuinely i genuinely think that essentially um i mean rupert lowe tweeted out

01:27:32.900 this the other day right he said the amount of victims that have come forward to our inquiry is

01:27:36.740 staggering from all over the country we're working hard to carefully give these survivors and their

01:27:40.740 families a voice and bring all the evidence and data together we must be clear this is a rotting 0.99

01:27:45.220 scandal brave individuals who have shared their stories and the hope to make a difference uh this

01:27:49.700 family is in touch with our safeguarding team it's clear that the emotional abuse but he's talking about

01:27:53.940 a particular case but um he says that uh brainwashed is a continuing theme exploited threatened strangled

01:28:00.980 raped failed by the british state from what we are finding this is a scandal that goes far beyond what

01:28:05.700 has already been reported and it's our job to try and piece it all together on a national scale

01:28:10.180 i think that's why kia starmer has gone okay yeah we're gonna have to do one yeah i i'm saying

01:28:15.140 this is one of the very very important parts because not only she got to see that he's got

01:28:20.180 collected this evidence and i think all the evidence that he has he should continue with his own

01:28:25.220 running you know perhaps side by side think of a way of doing that but every piece of evidence

01:28:29.940 that they've collected should be submitted as that on their behalf to this inquiry so that not only

01:28:35.940 as he got it and it can be published at any time if he does so but they know that this is what we've

01:28:40.900 put we've got this is what we're going to publish this is what's going to the inquiry too well the

01:28:44.820 good thing about rupert lowe's inquiries is essentially going to hold the government to

01:28:47.780 account on their own inquiry exactly rupert lowe's got 600 000 pounds to spend doing this and however

01:28:53.220 much of his own money he's put into it and so when the government tries to do some sort of whitewash

01:28:57.300 as you're expecting which i am too don't get me wrong uh rupert lowe can come out and correct the record

01:29:02.420 yeah another very very important point to say about this is that it's still all ongoing it's

01:29:06.820 not like the rape gangs ended in 2014 or something and it was a 1990s early 2000s problem and now it

01:29:13.300 doesn't happen anymore and we're just looking about something in history that was bad no it's still

01:29:17.700 completely ongoing in 2023 the conservatives uh upped the number of arrests as they had some sort of um

01:29:25.380 i can't remember what the name of the project was but the the prime was just you know imprison as many

01:29:30.260 of the grooming gang leaders and ring leaders as possible and so the the number of actual

01:29:34.660 convictions started spiking obviously mostly pakistanis and it's like yeah okay but the thing 0.99

01:29:39.140 is again this is the difficult thing to talk about but who are the customers these girls being pimped to 1.00

01:29:45.460 absolutely it's it's an enclosed bubble in the community it just annoys me when um particularly

01:29:53.540 tori politicians uh sort of claim that they didn't know it's still ongoing i remember gb news doing a

01:29:59.220 very uh a bit of real investigative journalism into it and talking to jacob reese mogg about it and

01:30:04.900 jacob reese mogg being like oh really oh it's still it's still ongoing is it i'm not interested in

01:30:08.980 that subject at all no yeah again it goes back to what we say these are the people not interested

01:30:13.300 yeah but like okay so half a dozen or a dozen ringleaders of the gang has been arrested but that

01:30:17.860 means there are thousands of child rapists just wandering around the country yeah get them all

01:30:22.500 get them all pull them all in arrest them and if they're illegal deport them irrespective of what

01:30:27.220 pakistan says about play loads of councillors are still in their jobs there's a police commissioner

01:30:31.060 still in their jobs no they should all be complicit they're complicit with this uh anyway unfortunately

01:30:36.580 on that note we are out of time so thank you very much for joining us folks and we'll be back

01:30:41.140 tomorrow at the same time have a great afternoon

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