The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1190

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters for thursday the 19th of june 2025 i'm

00:00:11.600 your host luca joined today by dan and stephen afternoon and today we're going to be talking

00:00:16.840 all about uh ted versus tucker indeed and which one has the uh more authentic vision of america

00:00:24.080 first yes we're all somewhere else first we're also going to be talking about uh uh updates on

00:00:31.420 the immigration issue and the boats and yeah and a few few other things like that and what's coming

00:00:35.700 to us in the future how many more engineers and doctors are going to arrive never enough i'm sure

00:00:41.240 and then at the end i'm going to be covering the anniversary of waterloo and why our history why

00:00:49.380 we're sadly being told uh to forget how great we once were so with that all said dan over to you

00:00:57.200 yes so um i wanted to cover the uh ted versus tucker uh debate uh i suppose we've got to ask

00:01:04.140 the question which of them came out of this the best uh which of them has the more authentic vision

00:01:08.700 for america first um this is the clip that sort of has attracted most of the attention and now some

00:01:16.020 people are saying it's a bit of a gotcha actually i think this is key this question i agree um it's

00:01:21.900 very important uh why don't we play this samson and um and then we talk about it

00:01:26.900 our buttons man is buttoning

00:01:37.840 i don't know if you can i can't hear it there's no volume on that uh maybe that's the key

00:01:46.560 this is uh the clip obviously about the population of a round

00:01:51.200 tell you what samson do any chance we can get sound on this um i don't know if the viewers are

00:01:57.420 getting it okay we are troubled talk amongst yourselves um i might restart the segment because

00:02:05.640 otherwise it might make me look a bit silly on youtube so yes yes all right we're early do the

00:02:11.300 magic we're having the we're having we're having the technical issues early were they singing the

00:02:17.260 hills are alive with the sound of music is this uh well it's it's one of those things into it that

00:02:24.580 um there's a reason that this particular clip got put out first yes yes yes it is it is kind of

00:02:31.800 key okay no well uh we'll retake from the beginning i think i think i think i think we're

00:02:36.460 we're retake sorry about this ladies and gentlemen chat has clearly got my back um

00:02:42.860 we're all behind you actually i just never take my head out of ted cruz when we were younger i debated

00:02:52.180 against him and um you know in the world debating championships in glasgow oh you debated ted cruz did

00:02:59.680 yeah yeah no we beat him we beat him my partner beat him and his partner who took me went on to

00:03:04.480 become a major hedge fund guy and former like either basketball player or baseball he was brilliant

00:03:10.800 literally everything and then but not not ted and 10 used to like just recite the constitution i mean

00:03:19.220 i think i may have mentioned that in another podcast yeah he'd recite the constitution as as a

00:03:23.880 chat up line for girls yeah does that work i didn't didn't seem to work for people i saw around

00:03:31.000 but you you never know i i didn't identify as a girl then in those days with uh they were they were

00:03:36.500 proper days when men were men and girls were girls and yeah you just went for girls how's how's how's

00:03:42.740 us uh the button people look worried so um so i don't i don't know i don't know what's happening

00:03:47.960 there um i'm i'm wondering if i'm getting the right one we're three minutes in so i think i've i'll give

00:03:53.980 it till five minutes hopefully you might be wrong uh yeah yeah i mean i think i think i want sound so

00:04:03.020 uh if you need to restart something we start something does that mean we're going to lose

00:04:06.120 the audience um no right we're sitting here remember we got live mic so we can't do what

00:04:15.300 we normally do when the mics go off and just you know i think the audience might really think i think

00:04:19.060 the audience might really like that

00:04:20.320 what's that sound out there yeah yeah a special branch turning up he's like oh those are very

00:04:32.140 brexity comments you're making yeah yeah there's twice uh a pack have been interfering with our

00:04:38.920 with our mics in technical difficulties maybe they're just not sure what is that it's elgato is that

00:04:44.160 some sort of like a technical thing at the back is that what we use ice cream

00:04:47.820 isn't elgato the cat you know um with that cartoon character that with the little cat that has the

00:04:59.740 sword right elgato oh is it my but my daughter and i used to watch it it's like well i've missed

00:05:07.800 that anyway you missed you've missed it if you know i've got the kids on we're looking elgato and

00:05:11.440 he was like some fantastic sword fighting animals yeah yes fighting everybody and it's like he was

00:05:16.840 brilliant very mountain anyway we we ought to uh people i'd probably think who the hell are these

00:05:22.160 three what are they talking about we we ought to release this and just see if it does better than

00:05:25.860 our normal stuff yeah

00:05:26.760 wow we got it we got it at all wow we got sound we got sound good right good and we we've hit my

00:05:37.940 five minute mark i'm gonna i'm gonna restart we can i get some thumbs up from the right excellent

00:05:43.120 okay okay good not the whole thing don't do the introduction i'll just hang on click on the

00:05:47.480 notes find my place here we go right

00:05:49.640 we do apologize all right um oh how did i start it again it was it was uh okay um let's talk about

00:06:01.780 the uh ted cruz and uh tucker carlson debate so uh what we got to get to in the bottom of this one

00:06:07.220 is which of them has the uh more authentic vision for america first and uh which of them won the

00:06:12.920 debate now there was um um a number of um bits that we could focus on i want to focus on about

00:06:18.360 two or three given given the time constraints and there was this bit which was about you know do you

00:06:22.540 actually know anything about the country you want to invade um which some people have dismissed as

00:06:27.540 being a bit of a gotcha type question but i actually do think that this is this is key um can we

00:06:32.840 watch this and then we talk about it how many people living around by the way i don't know the

00:06:37.100 population at all no i don't know the population you don't know the population of the country you

00:06:42.480 seek to topple how many people living around 92 million okay yeah how could you not know that

00:06:49.900 i i don't sit around memorizing population tables well it's all right um the reason i think this is key

00:06:58.320 is because you know ted has sort of laid out his position here it's it's all about regime change

00:07:03.860 and that is clearly what is going on here when we talk about the nuke stuff in a minute but it's

00:07:08.120 clearly about regime change it has been for 45 years the mission has been regime change now the

00:07:13.760 right the reason this is important is and i'm going to quote here from the u.s army marine corps uh

00:07:18.800 counterinsurgency field manual uh section fm 324 which yes which recommend like 336 no that was a

00:07:27.420 that was a rubbish bit all about latrines uh but no uh the uh 324 says that uh you want 20 troops

00:07:34.860 per thousand civilians uh to run an effective control and stabilization effort um now let's let

00:07:41.760 me give you some sort of historical examples so so germany the u.s did quite well in there

00:07:45.660 yeah um population 65 million they deployed 1.6 million troops that was a ratio of 25 troops per

00:07:53.240 thousand population big success yeah right that worked japan um 72 million they deployed 350 000

00:08:01.500 troops that was a ratio of five to a thousand which is low but they did drop nukes yeah so so you got

00:08:07.820 you got a swing factor in there as well yeah uh south korea a ratio of 10 um south korea half a win

00:08:16.800 maybe i mean the country's still divided in half well also there was a you know it was an allied

00:08:22.120 effort with the korean war as well so i imagine there were other troops there as well from other

00:08:26.680 nations yes keep the peace yes it was there was a bit of that okay uh vietnam 13.4 so that was

00:08:32.420 actually a fairly high ratio uh but of course difficult terrain a loss um bosnia 15 that one

00:08:40.040 pretty much worked yeah it was stabilized um iraq even at the surge the height of the surge was only

00:08:45.220 6.7 right loss yeah um and to give you an example of a total loss afghanistan 3.1 um the taliban won

00:08:54.720 the war yeah i mean yes the u.s did what the u.s is very good at doing which is winning the initial

00:08:59.540 stages uh but but they lost the war yeah so bombing everything destroying it and making sure there's 0.95

00:09:05.300 very few people left in the buildings and then we rebuild because we got making the contracts out of

00:09:10.220 it yeah which are now worthless to them because they didn't win and the taliban control the country 0.98

00:09:14.320 take away the gold and lots of people as we know in the deep state make shed loads of money out well

00:09:19.580 well they do well that's kind of the point isn't it the forever war is about the ongoing process not

00:09:23.860 about actually winning so if you want to take iran you're looking at 1.8 million soldiers

00:09:29.920 to do it properly um the u.s can likely deploy at peak 500 000 okay now that is taking into account

00:09:40.020 the active military and calling up the reserves and calling up the national guard and this is after

00:09:45.480 the uptake that we saw in military recruitment after trump took office yes yes yes there is that

00:09:51.400 so i mean they've actually got a decent number of troops got 1.3 million active service personnel but

00:09:55.540 you need a ratio of about three to one deployed uh because you've got for everyone actively out

00:10:00.840 there uh you need two in either training or rotation you can't just keep them out there all the time

00:10:06.500 i think we'd seen that about the british armed force recently where they talked about how we've got so

00:10:10.720 little if we want to go war because we need to have three yes exactly talking about ukraine

00:10:15.060 yeah and and that is ignoring the domestic needs and as la has demonstrated recently you actually do

00:10:22.340 need the national guard at home doing the job there it ignores other priorities because you know

00:10:28.600 wasn't russia supposed to be the biggest threat to the world um likewise isn't taiwan about to be 0.81

00:10:34.840 invaded by china and taiwan is different in that the u.s actually has genuine core strategic and

00:10:41.520 economic interests in taiwan so it would be a really big commitment so you're looking at 500 000

00:10:46.620 troops if you do and that is that is pushing it that gives you a ratio of 5.5 which is below the

00:10:54.500 iraq level and getting towards the afghanistan level that was a plain loss so actually no um the

00:11:00.460 population of iran is an absolutely core factor to this yeah it was ridiculous uh seeing on twitter

00:11:08.040 loads of people mocking tucker uh for this question in the same way like he was asking oh what's it

00:11:14.160 what's iran's national dish like like it was something really as if it's a real one actually

00:11:19.360 no the size the size of the population you're planning to implement regime change over

00:11:24.160 might be quite important it is kind of key that the sun tzu quote is not know nothing about your enemy

00:11:29.900 now um it's got an interesting element you just i mean i'm just thinking strategically if you were china

00:11:38.000 and you'd taken these figures together and recognized what the americans are putting their own

00:11:43.260 material there that you need a certain number of people to take over iran in a way you'd be kind

00:11:48.780 of thinking go for it go on get get get into iran get into iran and as you're bogged down like taiwan

00:11:55.720 here we go exactly wash we're in now um ted has obviously picked up on this and he's noticed this so

00:12:01.620 so he he has responded i'm going to play um a little bit of uh this

00:12:06.720 not in favor of putting troops on the ground donald trump's not in favor of putting troops

00:12:12.760 around absolutely no no no no troops on the ground so what we're advocating for is simply this

00:12:19.200 if america gets involved it would be to do exactly what you just said it would be to do what israel

00:12:25.720 can't do to take out a nuclear drop a couple of bombs threat drop a drop a couple of bombs so so the

00:12:32.100 the objective is um we're gonna we're gonna do regime change we're gonna we're gonna drop a

00:12:36.300 couple of bombs now um you can't just do this from the air you can't just you know even if you take

00:12:42.660 out enough of the leadership and all the rest of it you can't you can't just do it from the air

00:12:46.100 because i think the mistake that americans often make is because they are so wedded to their system

00:12:51.820 their democracy they kind of assume that if you take out a bad regime a democracy will just spring

00:12:58.560 out of the sand well that's what they thought in afghanistan and everywhere else and to be fair

00:13:02.760 we told them they could do it i mean our security services our intelligence services people who like

00:13:08.420 later on became mps for northern constituencies and now have podcasts with alistair campbell told

00:13:15.220 him that's what he could do yes it's not going to work now they i have also heard this plan about

00:13:19.980 we're going to install the crown prince right that is a weak plan because remember the last shah of 1.00

00:13:25.820 iran he lost despite actually having an army now you're going to send his son in without an army

00:13:32.700 when the other side already does have an army so obviously this is not going to work unless you

00:13:37.760 provide him with an army who's going to do that well it's not going to be the israelis is it so it is

00:13:42.020 going to be the us again um so if you if you sort of regime change you through through bombs and

00:13:48.640 destabilization you're not going to get an organic democracy you're going to get a regime which is even

00:13:54.060 more hard line than the one that is replaced because that is always happened the only organized

00:14:00.260 faction in iran is the revolutionary guard and they're embedded throughout the throughout the

00:14:05.660 system i mean up and down so there's plenty of there's plenty of depth to that organization

00:14:09.900 and we've literally just had the syrian example of where we're going to do this where we're going

00:14:14.400 to destabilize the regime from a distance and what happens is isis took over and they immediately

00:14:19.760 started killing christians now there is a christian population in iran it's small but

00:14:24.320 they get to be alive and and it's it's almost like the the point of western foreign policy is to get 0.98

00:14:31.920 as many christians killed as possible because that's all we end up achieving every time we do 1.00

00:14:35.940 an adventure in the middle east um so yeah i'm not fundamentally against regime change in iran 1.00

00:14:42.920 what i'm fundamentally against is trying to do it with a shit plan 0.99

00:14:46.260 yeah because every time you try it with a shit plan what you get is lots of spending 0.99

00:14:50.980 so i understand why the defense contractors like it i love it you get lots of debt you get lots of 0.99

00:14:56.940 dead young americans and in exchange apart from the defense spending you get lots of dead dead 0.66

00:15:02.140 well you get nothing you get nothing you just get a more destabilized region you don't you don't

00:15:06.240 get anything for it um and it kind of relates to my and then europe gets hundreds of thousands more

00:15:11.660 refugees well yes that as well and we're going to i mean i didn't mention that because i suppose

00:15:16.340 that's not necessarily yeah and we're going to we're going to come to that yeah as well i i didn't

00:15:20.880 necessarily mention that because um you know i i'm kind of making the argument in the case of

00:15:26.080 american interest but i mean that is certainly true i'll talk about that briefly when we come

00:15:30.200 um yesterday i did an open letter to america on the daily channel which you should all go and watch

00:15:35.140 um well i made the case of look america if you really feel the itch to do a bit of regime change

00:15:40.520 because it's been a while since you've done one and i know you like they're out of the system again

00:15:44.360 do it to britain yeah we already have nukes uh we have the sand people we have oil um we have

00:15:51.200 communists um we've taken out um you know american landmarks we burnt down the white house the the 0.78

00:15:58.240 the capital the um you know the the library of congress i mean we have everything that you're

00:16:04.600 looking for if you want to do a regime change i'm being slightly tongue-in-cheek there because

00:16:09.000 the problem is is who is the most organized in the uk who has the networks um and the weapons

00:16:14.800 it's not i'll give you a clue the british right wing because if the british right wing ever tries

00:16:20.920 to even starts to organize they immediately get arrested so the only people in this country who

00:16:26.960 have an organized network and weapons well it's we know who that is it's the other side and we know

00:16:32.820 that's the case because during the southport riots we could see the police going up to them and

00:16:36.960 saying please leave your weapons in the mosque so we know we know who and this is who wins a 0.99

00:16:42.860 revolution it's not the majority it's the most organized minority who are organized and have

00:16:50.560 weapons so we know that's going to be so we know that america is really good at winning the opening

00:16:54.780 stages of a war but it's really bad at winning what comes after and this is kind of because america

00:17:01.980 are very bad imperial administrators and it's because i think because they refuse to acknowledge

00:17:09.560 that they are an empire despite the fact that they obviously are an empire so yes there is that um

00:17:16.420 then i wanted to talk about this exchange here

00:17:21.020 i'm asking about your allegation and the prime minister of israel's allegation that

00:17:27.060 is that iraq is trying to murder the president killing terrorists is a good thing killing people

00:17:33.240 who are trying to murder americans is a good thing because if you're america first you want to protect 0.92

00:17:39.060 america and so taking out killing osama bin laden was a fantastic but you don't really believe that

00:17:44.080 they're trying to murder trump or yes i do yes i do then why aren't you calling for military action

00:17:48.060 against tehran right now because they're not very effective in terms of hitmen their hitmen are not

00:17:51.840 very effective i do think so they're hitmen but not the bad kind the efficient kind what are you

00:17:56.440 saying they're a weak country who is on its knees and i think we need to then why are we so afraid of

00:18:01.220 them why are they the biggest threat if they're a weak country that's on its knees because they're

00:18:04.140 trying i'm trying to keep track they're trying to develop

00:18:06.480 be a little less snarky i know you're right that is a problem that i have i'm sorry

00:18:12.820 i missed that i didn't i didn't see that clear so i mean first of all um i i would say that

00:18:25.280 is it really the case the iranians can't find a hitman who is better than thomas crooks

00:18:31.560 i mean all you need to do anyone yes i mean surely the iranians have somebody who's better than thomas

00:18:38.720 crooks i mean all you need to do is find a sloped roof um because you know that secret service will

00:18:42.620 avoid it like a plague because of health and safety reasons and you know it's i it's it's not

00:18:47.420 but you know the claim is it's a weird exchange yes you know i'm kind of trying to see it from a

00:18:53.580 logical kind of philosophical political viewpoint of being within there um well yeah they've got

00:19:00.420 assassins who are trying to take us out well you try to assassinate a cuban president you know

00:19:05.840 300 odd times and you know you weren't pretty good at that so you were worried about a country

00:19:11.800 that is on its knees it's weak hasn't got the capability but by the way it might make a nuclear

00:19:16.560 bomb despite what people say so we need to go in and a weak individual and also a massive risk and 0.96

00:19:23.040 also really crap at producing anyone good at assassinating any any individual that says to me 0.78

00:19:28.260 we don't need to do anything about them at all other than maybe my mates in the background are saying 0.96

00:19:34.020 our share price is falling in the you know economic arguments there's a bit more assets out there we've

00:19:38.960 got some good people that we might be able to put in in charge who can sell us a few contracts

00:19:42.680 a lot better than zelensky could and that being controversial so it makes no sense to me other than

00:19:49.480 the one thing that i am obviously most people of our concern is we just don't want them capable of

00:19:54.220 being able to wipe israel off the ground i don't want that i just don't want to see it happen 1.00

00:19:59.020 but is this the right way of doing so and i've got some of these but yeah yeah i don't know

00:20:03.880 yeah like i said i'm not fundamentally against razine i'm just i'm just against doing it incredibly

00:20:07.620 badly and assuming that you can just bomb them out and then and then they'll be replaced by

00:20:11.620 something better they will be replaced by something worse and we know this because that always always

00:20:16.260 happens every every time um so yeah i thought i'd play that bit because it is it's odd that they are 0.94

00:20:22.400 simultaneously weak and pathetic and you don't need to worry about them but at the same time

00:20:26.180 we still need to worry a a a significant threat um yeah turning to your point about the the nuclear 0.99

00:20:33.080 bomb um been going on the problem is is we've been hearing this for a long yeah 30 years you've

00:20:40.200 found 30 years i looked at 27 yeah yeah let's let's just listen to a bit of this the deadline for

00:20:47.020 attaining this goal is getting extremely quickly extremely close and iran by the way is also outpacing

00:20:54.040 iraq in the development of ballistic missile systems that they hope will reach the eastern

00:20:58.980 seaboard of the united states within 15 years by next spring at most by next summer at current

00:21:05.960 enrichment rates they will have finished the medium enrichment and move on to the final stage

00:21:13.880 from there it's only a few months possibly a few weeks

00:21:17.820 god 13 years before they get enough enough uranium for the first bomb the foremost sponsor of global 0.78

00:21:25.540 terrorism could be weeks away from having enough enriched uranium so i won't play all this but you

00:21:32.380 get the idea yeah yeah they are two weeks away for the last 30 years yeah um maybe time works

00:21:38.640 differently in the middle east i think it probably does probably does i mean i've also got a table

00:21:43.780 of of these claims if you want to go back and look at them um i mean this is not the exhaustive

00:21:48.860 list these are the ones made in english to um um to american audiences and we heard this claim with

00:21:55.660 iraq yeah yeah we did we did and and then afterwards it was like oh whoops yeah maybe not but you know

00:22:01.020 whatever hey don't worry yeah 1.5 million people thousands of yeah that was old-fashioned millions of

00:22:06.480 iraqis um thousands of young american men um huge amounts of debt you know nine trillion of debt

00:22:12.040 yeah um the eye taken off the ball at home while domestic issues got worse and there are genuine

00:22:18.200 domestic issues to be focusing on there is a very very strong argument that a lot of the issues that

00:22:24.240 we've got in europe in america in britain in particular are a direct responsibility of blair and

00:22:31.080 their cabal deciding to go in and bomb the hell out of iraq because we've got the mass immigration that 0.96

00:22:37.220 has come from that it's led to the ideology within most of the intelligence services that it's okay to

00:22:43.620 do the regime change in lebanon syria and there's no consequences to that and the consequences are

00:22:48.860 are that we've got girls being raped in england we've got housing costs and this is what i i have a

00:22:55.260 massive problem with these people in in power i understand the argument that we've got to defend

00:23:00.160 israel and i i do the same and we've got to defend our rights from people who are loonies having 0.97

00:23:04.220 nuclear bombs i agree with that but every time you've gone down this line you've messed it up

00:23:09.600 yeah so if if this is what you genuinely believe you need a much better plan and that's a caliber of

00:23:16.740 imperialists and tech crews yes exactly um i'm just going to flag this up i don't really have time to

00:23:23.600 get into this but this popped up on my twitter feed just before we came on air so i wanted to

00:23:27.680 highlight it um and it is a thread from semi-agog who i've had on brokonomics and um he's basically

00:23:34.200 making the um he's providing the explanation as to why iran is pursuing um nuclear energy okay because

00:23:42.380 i mean this was something that confused me myself because they're very low energy costs so why do they

00:23:46.180 need nuclear power uh and he's got a thread here and explains it the very short version is is the bit

00:23:50.300 with the oil is the vulnerable bit down at the bottom there oh um that that that's pretty much

00:23:56.100 it so you know um saddam hussein attacked that bit immediately and they kind of know that that's

00:24:01.260 their vulnerability and their population and their capital is in the north so so but i mean read the

00:24:05.420 thread because but it but it but it explains it all um but yeah we i mean this is the sort of boomer

00:24:12.240 bait that is being pushed out and being lapped up you know like this this this todd stans who is a

00:24:16.420 i mean he's a news anchor of some sort is here there are some in maggot world who believe the

00:24:21.060 mole high ground is radioactive mushroom clouds over tel aviv jerusalem new york and los angeles

00:24:25.660 i mean really but to be honest he is honestly if that's what we generally think i mean this is this

00:24:34.240 is exactly what the play was last time and it was nonsense last time yeah um hysteria yeah i mean and

00:24:40.680 having said that i mean if you're really trying to scare me off this idea why did you pick new york and

00:24:44.360 los angeles i mean i'm i won't say more but that will get the police around in any second now yes

00:24:52.740 yeah especially not those other names i really i really really can't say too much on this one

00:24:56.780 um but no let's focus back on what i think what is is perhaps even more of a core issue is the bit

00:25:02.520 that's going to stick around afterwards uh which is i mean ted cruz has been defending his record on

00:25:07.740 this podcast he's been a bit frantic on this and i won't play this clip i'm just gonna i'm just

00:25:11.680 gonna read out the bit above um oh no hang on um maybe that one oh yeah that one okay so i am

00:25:20.180 gonna i'm gonna i am gonna play a little bit of this one i don't know anything about the country

00:25:24.660 you're the one who claims they're not trying to murder donald trump no i'm not saying that who

00:25:28.820 can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill general soleimani and you said it was bad they're

00:25:33.100 trying to murder trump yes i do because you're not calling for military strikes against them in

00:25:36.920 retaliation and if you really believe that carrying out military strikes today you said

00:25:40.940 israel was right with our help i'm said we israel is leading them but we're supporting them well

00:25:46.480 this you're breaking news here because the u.s government last night denied the national

00:25:50.460 security council spokesman alex pfeiffer denied on behalf of trump that we were acting on israel's

00:25:56.000 behalf in any offensive capacity we're not bombing them israel's bombing them you just said we were

00:26:00.040 we are supporting israel is you're a senator if you're saying the united states government is

00:26:05.380 at war with iran right now people are listening hey we are not bombing them oh okay israel is bombing

00:26:10.560 them hey why do you do the snide oh okay why do you do the snide llk i mean that that is that is

00:26:18.860 kind of cutting to the heart of it he he's using israel and we interchangeably they're indivisible

00:26:23.940 yes yes yes he's a u.s senator the left and right halves of the brain one cannot function without

00:26:29.580 the other yes i think he's caught within a trap isn't he because the the trap is the we is yeah

00:26:36.720 we are supporting them but how the question is how do you support them is it because we're using our

00:26:42.580 satellites above them we're actually enabling with our satellites to be able to direct them to where

00:26:47.240 they're going to be bombed which actually got our individuals sitting alongside them you know that's

00:26:52.900 the we and once there's a certain level of where you help where you actually are doing it well

00:26:59.400 yes yeah i mean there's a certain point where you kind of fused yes to be honest and actually

00:27:04.220 that's trying not to get that line this is why i wanted to bring this up this is this is ted cruz

00:27:08.120 defending his sort of point on this uh and i'll just read this bit out this one i came to the senate

00:27:13.860 committed to being the leading defender of israel um okay you see the thing that um i find most

00:27:23.180 peculiar about that is that he thinks that that looks good yes right to a certain part of the base

00:27:28.900 that does play well but this this is where the fracture is coming in yes it's like some people are

00:27:33.400 like well hang on why not the leading defender of the us or texas and he's also missing out a very

00:27:39.800 important point because we have people here who are mps that went over to pakistan and demanded that

00:27:46.000 we have an airport that looked after and they and we criticize them for being the leading defenders

00:27:52.060 of pakistan or the leading defenders of another country oh yeah the leading defenders of being

00:27:57.640 another religion rather than being the defender of britain the defender of our nation culture and

00:28:03.580 history and you can't then he's going to have a real difficulty saying i'm the leading defender

00:28:10.040 defender of israel meaning that i am you know when people say i am the leading defender of islam in

00:28:17.660 america quite and and we criticize those people absolutely quite right omar who said what is it

00:28:23.840 that um that she's there for the somali that's right it's like well you shouldn't be i came and 0.99

00:28:29.480 likewise you should not be a well i can't say you you shouldn't be a defender of israel you can be a

00:28:34.040 defender of israel if you want but that shouldn't be your primary goal no and if if omar now comes out

00:28:38.220 into the congress and says i made it my primary goal to come into congress to be a leading defender

00:28:44.060 of somalia there's no one in the republican movement now can criticize her and well you know if i was her

00:28:50.120 advisor i'd be doing saying get that out now because it's yeah it's a challenge it's a challenge

00:28:55.940 yeah and and she will show them for and and it's a very i think it's a very silly thing for him to have

00:29:02.180 said to open up kind of criticism for what is a good cause well this is my point how can how can

00:29:10.060 it be america first i mean it's not okay i'm america first plus also this other thing yeah you

00:29:16.280 know it doesn't work like that and and this is kind of where i want to kind of finish this segment

00:29:19.760 is that what what's going to be the takeaway from this i mean ted cruise took 1.9 million from

00:29:25.700 apac um and i don't think it's unreasonable to ask if it's american interests that are driving

00:29:33.540 american foreign policy and for my money um tucker won this debate um hands down and the reason is

00:29:41.920 is because you know what are we all going to remember from this exchange two weeks two months two years

00:29:48.460 from now i think it's going to be the extent of apac money and influence of israeli influence over

00:29:55.360 the us and i think that's a bit of a loss a tactical loss for israel because what they had

00:30:00.780 done is they built up this huge bulkwood of six of of goodwill and support and you kind of want to

00:30:08.000 have that for when you need it yeah you don't want to take that and spend it on a regime change that

00:30:14.100 will fail but i think all we're going to get out of this as we remember it later on is israeli

00:30:19.520 influence on american foreign and it gives uh on the other side huge um amount of weaponry and

00:30:26.140 armory for people to attack those of us who uh believe in defending israel on a number of fronts

00:30:32.320 and um and i think that's going to be a really difficult element for us because we we every

00:30:38.200 country should have its own independent foreign policy understands allies and the need to defend

00:30:43.660 allies but ultimately even we can disagree with allies about strategy or outcomes and it must be

00:30:52.240 in the interest of the united states to be able to challenge israel if they think well and it's a

00:30:56.500 fundamentally different thing defending an ally yeah to attacking on behalf of an ally that's and so

00:31:01.760 there's all sorts of elements about it you know i can like people in countries in europe but it doesn't

00:31:06.180 mean i want to be a member of the european union of course and i can i will defend them if they get

00:31:10.100 attacked you know if china decided to want to bomb germany for whatever particular reason then there's

00:31:14.880 a reason for us to be of course caution but that is not my primary role of being an mep or an mp

00:31:21.600 as it was then and not not now it's because i want to come out and that's it's going to create

00:31:25.640 problems i'll read some comments um oh can i just say one more oh yes go on then which was just

00:31:30.540 another thing to consider as well is that the american levels of sentiment and goodwill towards

00:31:37.160 israel uh probably uh on well they're going to time out especially seeing as you've got you know 0.99

00:31:45.060 a lot of young people now across the west who optically are quite disgusted by the israel

00:31:50.460 palestine issue which has been very very divisive and it does seem to be something that the young

00:31:55.580 people in particular uh they don't have the same level of loyalty no they don't the boomers or gen x have 0.87

00:32:02.300 had historically people of ted cruz's age yeah and so going forward yeah israel's going to have to

00:32:09.220 play it smarter yeah uh matt hammond says dan's open letter to america was great um what he failed

00:32:15.440 to consider was we install a prince and we'd monetize it on amazon with jeremy clarkson clarkson's

00:32:20.660 kingdom uh yes i i'm all in favor of that a little known fad uh fact ted cruz is spanish for i'm an

00:32:27.540 idiot and i publicly co-concede of it i don't think he is i think he's quite smart um and if there 0.88

00:32:32.000 was a better argument that he could make he would have made it by now um that's a random name says 0.99

00:32:36.520 iran being two weeks a year from having nukes for the last 30 years um uh yes excellent and and

00:32:42.800 stiglson says it's uh 60 million years in the future the sun is expanding to red dwarf the earth

00:32:47.220 is mere days away from being consumed iran is only two weeks away from building a nuke yes 0.93

00:32:52.240 well i'm gonna i'm gonna go on to something that that's just as equally ridiculous as some of those 0.83

00:33:01.100 statements but actually unfortunately is a very uh poor and negative fact um look immigration is 0.97

00:33:07.380 always in in the front and foremost minds of many many people uh and and it's kind of come back to

00:33:13.560 us not only in this discussion here as i'll come back later towards the end of this about what would

00:33:18.740 be an impact of a regime change in iran but also we've seen the casey report the grooming gangs we've

00:33:26.800 seen 25 percent of uh or criminals in in sexual offenses cases only two days ago being reported as

00:33:33.740 being connected to illegal migration and non-uk citizens uh from a non-european base and we we're

00:33:41.540 seeing the impacts on housing and schools across the country and so the idea that immigration isn't

00:33:47.760 going to go away is a big issue legal and illegal so i'm going to just do a quick summary on something

00:33:53.400 some of it i hope can be a little bit light-hearted because i'm going to end up with something that i

00:33:57.020 think is quite worrying towards the end of it so the first of these is um this is uh where we are no

00:34:06.360 i thought we're the first one should be where we are on this year oh no i've uploaded the wrong ones

00:34:14.220 then by the looks of it i've uploaded it twice so okay all right um that's a bit of a shame right

00:34:21.280 so i'm gonna talk about this year uh we have kind of upload uh 16 800 uh people have come across the

00:34:31.460 channel and it's a lovely bright sunny day and whilst we might be thinking of going for a glass

00:34:36.180 of wine or we'd like to have like a beer at the end of the day there are the entrepreneurs the people

00:34:42.500 smugglers who are ready to get their nice cruise liners across the channel with thousands more today

00:34:49.380 or royal navy completely unable to stop them unable to stop them oral and i just looking at them

00:34:54.920 and welking them in maybe they've got a beer and a glass of wine or a dandelion and burdock well i think

00:34:59.760 i think the um the lifeboat service is helping them actively but the consequence of that 16 800

00:35:05.280 we're 40 up from last year uh we've probably made around 85 million for the people smugglers it's

00:35:13.400 kind of cost as i think on the figures that i've put on cmep this morning roughly up to around a

00:35:18.380 billion already this year we'll first so did you say we we made the people smugglers 85 million

00:35:23.540 this year yeah this year just alone it's a good business you know uh if they were floating on the

00:35:29.260 stock market there are a lot of people will be buying into them it's a good good industry and if

00:35:34.060 you look here this is since 2018 uh just on the boats 167 704 as of last night uh you can see the

00:35:44.740 the annual cost and what i do that is 8 billion uh just related to them for just the boat people just

00:35:51.920 the boat people just the boat people and then on the right you see how much that the people smugglers

00:35:56.780 have made since 2018 and that's a rough estimate between 12 15 000 pounds over a billion since

00:36:03.440 2018 that's why i say good money nice little business to be in on there and i think it's

00:36:10.180 down isn't it for the next one or is it next uh no it's it is you yeah i'll do my link to be honest

00:36:18.580 up here okay much easier and just as a summary the boats aren't the only thing everyone seems to think

00:36:26.700 you know okay it's just a few little guys and obviously if you're a member of the the the labor

00:36:32.960 party um i think you just turned around and said it's basically all women that are coming across

00:36:37.840 on on the boat even though you never see one yeah even though you very rarely see them and

00:36:42.240 those figures i'm i'm just building towards the end of this this is the kind of my latest run on

00:36:47.540 colors and branding to try and pull together a massive number of everything that's occurred

00:36:51.620 that number 226 682 are people who've come in on planes boats backs of lorries and other ways of

00:37:00.420 getting into the country there clearly are those that we miss but these all come from ons figures 0.99

00:37:05.560 alone so they're four routes again since 2018 and that 226 000 is only till march 2025 so you could

00:37:14.460 probably add on another 10 grand on that because that's what's coming in april may and june so hang

00:37:20.040 on there this is a quarter is it uh no this is since 2018 uh this is just illegal migrants is that

00:37:27.980 number yeah just the illegal migrants that have come in on on the boats planes and trains uh and i can

00:37:35.820 see that you've got there how how they're coming in on their arrivals i see the numbers uh actually

00:37:41.980 that's my mistake i can see that they should all have an extra digit on them on there so i'm gonna have

00:37:46.980 to redo that but the big number to look at there is 226 682 plus about another 10 000 since march 2025

00:37:54.300 who've come into the country so 167 have come over thousand have come over on boats you've got

00:38:01.320 to then another 50 000 since 2018 come on the backs of planes and lorries and other routes as well into

00:38:07.040 the uk and that creates a huge sum of money to us as i was pointing out 8 billion but huge sum of money

00:38:13.740 to people smugglers too and that ignores the separate number of how many people who are here

00:38:21.300 claiming visas and then later on try and change it and say i want to stay here that's a different set

00:38:26.240 of figures so 226 000 illegal since 2018 one of the bits of research i'm doing is going all the way

00:38:32.880 back to 2000 just on asylum seekers it's really really difficult because the government doesn't

00:38:38.440 produce the numbers of how many are illegals but i've got around 1.2 million asylum seekers since

00:38:43.680 2000 so that'll be out there now i'm i'm gonna say okay people might think that's pretty okay numbers

00:38:51.720 226 000 what's that the size of southampton winchester easley and i'm pretty much some of the

00:38:58.760 than portsmouth just a couple of cities you know maybe the whole of greater manchester not greater

00:39:05.320 manchester sorry manchester central not greater manchester but it's a big number yes well yes

00:39:09.740 maybe some of our erstwhile fans who are watching this can come out and find what cities have got

00:39:15.300 226 000 but that's what's arrived uh so imagine building that hospitals schools infrastructure water

00:39:22.900 electricity gas then pay benefits of people for provide jobs all for that number of years since

00:39:29.560 2018 gps the lot a whole lot so that's what's arrived uh and then they're still coming

00:39:35.100 but i had to love love this one this story okay they're still coming this picture someone had a

00:39:41.460 video i couldn't find the video i saw it this morning someone did actually have a video of this

00:39:45.400 man swimming uh and he had a crutch

00:39:48.460 i mean what did he do jog past the french police who were apparently on the on the beaches

00:39:55.720 he quickly rushed around he'd then get into the water and identify he was gonna he was planning to

00:40:02.120 swim swim it the whole way well no no no no he's he he's got into that boat and he had a crutch

00:40:07.000 he's got a crutch so he was on the beach with his crutch and he got past the french police on a

00:40:12.740 crutch then got into the water i mean that's silly the nhs will provide him one the moment he turns up

00:40:17.520 but i i thought did he identify as a submarine and use the crutch as a kind of water just to get to

00:40:23.820 the boat to evade the police blip blip i see the catching but it's this is a kind of level of joke

00:40:29.120 that we've got french police are out there uh they say that they're doing a job they've got

00:40:33.880 800 million i think is so far that we've given them in the last 10 15 years well then why would

00:40:39.260 they stop it yeah that's right and we're paying their police to from ours as well so um so i just

00:40:45.680 thought to myself you know that's a bit of comedy stuff but it's not really fun funny but apparently

00:40:50.580 keir starmer said he he'd he'd stop the gangs because he's now really worried about it

00:40:56.100 and allegedly keir is really worried about it i was out um on uh tuesday night in london

00:41:02.880 uh having conversations with some former labour spads i love the fact they're former labour spads

00:41:08.680 already and they came in they talked about the ech or how they want to change it and that keir is

00:41:14.740 really concerned about it uh and i asked them why are they is keir starmer really concerned about

00:41:20.760 when he's never really been in there in the past and and it's because of that obviously the red wall

00:41:26.660 collapsed without radical action to stop small boats yeah they fear it for votes and loss of their

00:41:31.700 own power just as the taurus did never out of the genuine injustice or principle absolutely and that's

00:41:38.600 crucial it's not about the fact and i just look there's some of the images that i i'm not finding

00:41:44.480 that particular funny i'm just looking in that boat and again i i i want to get uh was it darren

00:41:50.860 jones who was on uh question time you said it that i wanted to have a look at that picture

00:41:55.500 and if he was either one who said that they're overwhelmingly women and children yeah i just

00:41:59.460 want to look in that picture and see there's a lot of children in there huge number of children

00:42:03.780 in there all those at the back 20 year old children yeah all those at the back are going to claim that

00:42:07.740 they're under the age of 18 uh and i've got some really fun statistics on that that i'm that i'm

00:42:13.220 bringing i might show you guys just as a sample to see whether you like the model that i'm using

00:42:17.360 in the imagery at the back end of it but you know again they're not really doing it out of the care

00:42:22.820 the fact that they're concerned about us or the country they're concerned about losing their seats

00:42:27.780 now and then i just found this one i can't i just on online mike tap right anyone who sees mike tap

00:42:36.420 he hates uh reform the conservative party and then he's produced this

00:42:41.920 we're facing a national security crisis the tory open borders mean the smuggling gangs

00:43:02.020 are mocking us we would not accept thousands barging through the barriers at heap row and we

00:43:09.080 will not accept illegal entries by sea the public are sick of it we are sick of it and you're quite

00:43:16.860 rightly asking what have we done and what more can we do

00:43:21.000 right so i'm going to stop there this is a labour mp for dover this is an interesting tone shift yes

00:43:30.120 very interesting everything that i have said i've done videos like that which i've been far right

00:43:36.320 and extremist and i'm just wondering whether hope not hate are actually going to now put it's not

00:43:40.900 far right when they do it yeah or whether or whether prevent uk because only recently they've said that

00:43:46.720 anyone who's concerned about mass immigration are now terrorists or whether they're going to say

00:43:50.960 mike mike is a terrorist i mean if they're just saying the things that we were saying five years ago

00:43:55.320 why don't they just listen to us now and get a jump on the next five years exactly exactly i'm just 0.84

00:44:00.340 i'm fascinated and what we're saying is deportation so to the despicable criminals organizing these

00:44:06.140 crossings your time is up amand hassan zada knows it the iranian national living in preston he's now

00:44:14.540 inside for 17 years ahmed ebid knows it 25 years for smuggling thousands from north africa 0.51

00:44:22.640 into europe paul giglia knows it dilshad shammo ali kadir all of these by the way all arrested

00:44:30.280 and looked at goes on under the conservatives nothing to do with labor and i bet they're all

00:44:35.640 international cooperation smashing criminal supply chains anyway so what he goes on to do there and

00:44:42.280 people you can have a look at that he talks about how labor's doing exactly that smashing criminal

00:44:46.460 supply chains with our friends in europe uh we're we're smashing the gangs but the end of it is

00:44:52.280 interesting he then says we need to look at the ech or i don't drag it through because it goes on

00:44:58.020 for three and a half uh okay what does he say about that he then says we need to reform the ech or you

00:45:04.060 can't do it you just have to leave yes well that that is the point i've been pointing this out for a

00:45:08.020 long time the ech or has two distinctive elements to it the first is the the legal basis uh of which

00:45:17.120 enables people to be able to claim uh appeals for asylums and the first be prior to that is whether

00:45:23.260 they can actually pass in the first place and when you make a claim for indefinite leave to remain

00:45:28.580 there are three categories one is you're an asylum seeker as we know it under the un convention

00:45:33.780 on on refugees and that's minuscule it's about 20 percent 25 percent if that of all the people who

00:45:40.660 are granted indefinitely to remain fall under that category a lot of those who are ukrainian for

00:45:45.600 example fleeing torture only about five percent fall under a direct category linking itself to the ech or

00:45:51.940 the remaining 70 percent 60 to 70 percent depending on the year is discretionary it's all the rules

00:46:00.000 created by the home office to allow people to come in this individual as a mental health issue that

00:46:05.880 can't be treated in somalia we've got the nhs we can look after him therefore he stays that couple

00:46:11.860 there will be abused in iran for being being gay despite the fact that they've got one of the largest

00:46:16.820 transgender kind of hospitals haven't they i understand in the world but hey we'll still let 1.00

00:46:21.860 them in under our rules i mean i even heard a case and i had to check it because i thought no that

00:46:26.660 can't be true but it was that some guy avoided deportations because his son prefers the chicken

00:46:32.000 nuggets here oh yeah yeah that's on the second stage so then it comes to the ech or creating legislation

00:46:37.720 which is then interpreted by the lawyers to keep them in and that you can get it i'm the lawyer you're

00:46:44.860 the client he says my son he doesn't like chicken mac nuggets in albania so i will put that forward

00:46:50.040 as one of my arguments to the judge and the immigration judge will go do you know what that

00:46:56.200 actually falls right within the ech or principles and right to life and you i can i got it i got it

00:47:02.220 i don't like chicken mac nuggets in albania either so they've then extended it so anyone like themselves

00:47:07.460 who's saying that we can just amend the ech or to remove those elements are naive because what's

00:47:13.240 happened now it's become part of our common law well and it's not like we didn't watch david kemmen

00:47:17.160 and the tories spend 14 years running this exact line are we just going to reform and that's what

00:47:22.300 i was coming to you picked it up they're running the exact lines i could be watching a video yes for

00:47:27.360 pretty patel or you know or cleverly doing doing this i'm not sure we'd have it in generic in the

00:47:34.020 same way now i think he'd go a lot further so what i'm seeing in labor is they're deeply concerned

00:47:39.300 that the starmer's saying is that these people that i was talking to on tuesday night

00:47:43.320 uh very interesting group of people there was um myself a presenter for gb news won't give you

00:47:50.200 names of which one some labor people some others who are supporter labor all coming around saying

00:47:56.080 they're all recognizing this is the massive issue for labor now and that they're going to try and

00:48:00.800 deal with it and and then we have so if but if it weren't a threat to their power then they they

00:48:06.800 wouldn't do anything about it i i not out of will no i fundamentally believe that i fundamentally

00:48:11.780 believe that and now so now we're hearing things like this over the last year i was looking up but

00:48:16.940 i wanted to get into uh the european issues and i decided i'm going to next week do a full uh part

00:48:25.400 on what we're going to do in your what europe's doing on this and the big numbers that they've

00:48:29.300 gotten issues on that but france is saying it wants to try and stop more uk bound migrants at sea

00:48:34.720 there is some real genuinely um uh statistics coming out from the french trying to pot boats and

00:48:41.440 arrest people out there i know i made fun why is it in the french's interest to do that though um

00:48:45.680 it's all to do with the eu deal that we've just uh we have just succumbed on so many areas like

00:48:51.800 allowing our uh fishing land the fishing grounds to be actually taken over i get what i get there why

00:48:57.500 they'd sign the deal i don't i just don't know what they would then bother to follow through because

00:49:00.740 it's not like we hold them up no no we wouldn't we wouldn't but i think there's some pressure on

00:49:05.100 the french from within the commission to say oh come on you've got to hold up your end for a while

00:49:08.960 you've got to look like you've got to look like you're doing it and that's what i that's what i

00:49:12.360 think and also it may well be that they're actually are beginning to get a little bit worried about

00:49:16.800 this so the interior ministry here in this case say the boats were up 42 percent compared to 22

00:49:21.900 2024 i agree it's fluctuating between 40 and 42 percent on a daily basis but what that means at the

00:49:28.720 end of this year is we're looking around at 54 55 000 going to arrive this year but will be the

00:49:37.880 biggest number ever this year if it can because of the big months uh uh august end of july august and

00:49:44.000 september where we've seen huge numbers 2023 i think we had 1032 in one day or one sorry 1332 in

00:49:51.980 one day so we've got that um but telegraph labor's migration promises have failed to 0.96

00:50:00.660 materialize that we know for certain without a doubt we've not seen anything so far who thought

00:50:06.360 they would yeah i know and i can understand why this guy that i was talking to on tuesday decided he

00:50:12.660 wanted to get out of trying to work on this and go into as they do pr and you know lobbying themselves

00:50:18.840 but you know they they recognize it isn't going to work um and then even the ft which has been a big

00:50:26.380 big supporter of of starma is saying labor's small post policy risks foundering its previous success in

00:50:34.640 stopping lorries makes reducing illicit migration harder for the government but they're not stopping

00:50:39.800 the lorries they're coming back that's my research is starting to say that they're recognizing that

00:50:44.160 we've become weak on on lorries so i haven't understood why i've not got any of the people

00:50:49.100 who talk to me from a border force or border agencies trying to indicate why are we checking

00:50:54.220 less is it because we've opened our borders a lot more easily after this deal with the eu 0.99

00:50:58.840 that more but more lorries now getting through without being checked and stopped there's no other

00:51:03.480 holdups so now the people smugglers are saying that the lowest end i may just say out of the way that

00:51:10.040 the profit margins work uh and the way that you can get over the lowest cost is on the back of a lorry

00:51:16.960 right you're just shoved there because it's the highest risk oh the the highest uh cost to you

00:51:24.500 is when you're in the back of a car or back of a caravan right because these people have been sold

00:51:29.760 and you're getting into that back of the caravan with your family and you'll be hidden and and you've

00:51:34.680 got a lot of chance of getting through and the person driving it gets a lot of money out of it as well

00:51:38.820 the middle ranking is on the boats uh so they're shoving you back on the lorries because it's a

00:51:44.060 risk for you you can you can die because you get underneath it or you try and get into the back

00:51:48.660 so people who either can't afford the last element of their debt to the to the people smugglers will

00:51:54.620 get you to the lorries and of course once more with certain lorry companies and people are bought off

00:52:00.680 lorry drivers are bought off so that does happen um and then we've got uh this though this is what

00:52:08.680 i find very very interesting the americans have got involved so i asked uh samsung to to put this

00:52:15.380 up for for people so that they can if they want to download it themselves and have a look

00:52:20.760 this is interesting here it's an organization in the united states very very very pro mass migration

00:52:28.600 very opposed to trump very opposed to controlling immigration and it has actually written and

00:52:34.680 provided this research for a uk eu deal on migration and asylum look at the date june 25 it's all being

00:52:42.220 linked in to the plans that are being discussed in the european union at the moment and it's a i'll

00:52:48.680 just run through there they talk about who crosses the channel and why well we pretty much know that

00:52:53.120 they're crossing wise it's a lovely life in here compared to where they go and they're looking at

00:52:57.900 this designing a readmissions deal and showing solidarity in return for readmissions and this is

00:53:04.960 what i'm hearing on the grapevine from europe is that a deal that's being looked at in seriousness

00:53:12.460 and i think it's quite a good model from this when i've opened it up um we lack the time to be able

00:53:18.600 to analyze some of the big numbers in it is that the readmission deal that they're considering is

00:53:24.740 having ports and i don't mean it in ports as in boats ports port stops so that illegal migrants from

00:53:31.760 europe can come into france and possibly even germany in other countries if it works this way and go

00:53:38.720 hi i want to go to britain and i want to go to britain because i've got family there or i've got links

00:53:44.600 there and i'm really fleeing the terror that's coming out of iran sorry iraq or something that's

00:53:51.720 another any one of them where it comes obviously iran's next and and then they're going to turn

00:53:56.900 around so i want to go over to britain and the french and the germans will assess them using our

00:54:03.480 rules allegedly connected to some european union framework of assessing whether someone is a genuine

00:54:10.260 asylum seeker and it will be done in their country and once the french or the germans or the italians 0.98

00:54:17.540 agree that person is past the so-called agreed uh category of asylum they will be sent to britain

00:54:25.140 i don't love this idea no directly terrible and in return allegedly we will be able to return

00:54:33.140 to france those who've come over on the boats i mean maybe if it's maybe if it's a ratio of 100 to

00:54:40.220 one or something yeah so if there's 100 we leave and then we get one back that would work but it

00:54:44.660 doesn't work under the dublin convention when we were in the european union it was three times as

00:54:50.400 many came over to the world that we returned so this is a little scheme for the government to say

00:54:57.320 we've got a proper policy in place it gives them just enough to say they're doing something we're

00:55:02.440 doing something we're stopping the boats and effectively works in the hands of those who say

00:55:07.840 you've got a nice clean route to come in the safe route we've saved that and we're going to stop the

00:55:13.560 people smugglers from doing it poppycock because at the end of the day there will be someone who says

00:55:19.260 i want to get over there and might be kicked out what do you think is going to happen the people

00:55:24.560 smugglers are going to go hey my man let's come in it's unfortunately it's a little bit more

00:55:29.500 now i don't know why i'm doing a french accent maybe it was macaroni it's very good yeah but there

00:55:33.320 we go and now you've done it you do exactly that and i've noticed in the time i'm going to finish on

00:55:39.820 this and why i'm finishing on this is because i don't want to be the bearer of huge horrid news

00:55:45.780 we're looking at 55 000 coming in this year across the channel we don't get as many as france i admit we

00:55:52.100 don't get as many as germany and we certainly don't get as many as italy we're one of the top

00:55:55.820 five countries that get this but we're getting 55 000 because a year or so ago the europol and the

00:56:01.480 europeans warned that we had about 225 000 come across the western routes the mediterranean routes

00:56:06.920 etc this is their latest surge in irregular migration puts pressure on the eu borders

00:56:14.840 you sort of term irregular meaning illegal illegal look at the number

00:56:20.060 380 000 irregulars were cross detected in 2023 that's now a jump of what they said was 230 in that

00:56:29.920 year so there was 150 000 more came in in 2023 and what happens is when they arrive across those

00:56:38.120 mediterranean routes and the west african routes those right means that they head towards us 0.96

00:56:43.980 and they're warning us again that they've got similar numbers for this year they're seeing huge

00:56:49.440 numbers coming across the western migration routes into the mediterranean region the west africans in

00:56:56.000 particular uh and you can see guinans afghans following syrians we've got a lot of indians

00:57:01.260 coming down now flying into countries that then can get them in on these routes into europe

00:57:08.680 huge influx of indians as we've seen in the american borders when they were crossing the borders

00:57:14.540 in mexico there were large numbers so if we're going to see 380 000 again i can estimate that we

00:57:21.840 will get 55 60 000 again next year and this concerns me about why we get into a war with iran

00:57:28.720 90 million there we've just seen what's happening in syria we're seeing brutalization and murder even

00:57:35.040 though we're going to roll out the carpet for the syrian president and that former terrorist and isis 0.54

00:57:40.440 we are going to see more coming over the next few years and they're going to do this if their policy

00:57:46.260 works we won't see them coming across necessarily on the boats in huge numbers i still think we will

00:57:50.500 but this time we'll see them just coming straight in from ports or safe ports or safe places in europe so

00:57:56.720 i want to just let people see the numbers that are coming in the threats to us in the future

00:58:02.060 and the challenges that we will have but how the politicians in europe are going to try and pull

00:58:07.980 the wool over our eyes once more when nothing changes except more coming in this is a real issue

00:58:14.120 isn't it when uh when brexit happens that you know you think okay well we've left the european union

00:58:19.660 but none of that matters if the uh moral uh you know if the the british elites and the eu elites are

00:58:27.600 in total moral alignment with one another yeah over what is correct and what should be done and they

00:58:33.580 all agree that we should be taking these people yeah they even though we don't want them but they do

00:58:38.940 and even though they and that is dwarfed by the legal issue and of course we get america we've got

00:58:43.840 american organizations drafting up the same ideology and policies for us to kind of incorporate

00:58:51.120 and you know i wonder where that money comes from is it usaid is it the state department

00:58:56.860 is it just these very large organizations that fund huge money i mean i did some brief research on some of

00:59:04.300 the big ngos and and also the think tanks that support all of this and they were looking like getting

00:59:10.940 10 20 million pounds a year and of course iom the the migration part of the un gets a budget of 3.8

00:59:17.580 billion give me 3.8 billion we'd have the whole agenda chose overnight

00:59:22.360 any of the comments yeah i'll just go through comments uh habsification says uh this will cause

00:59:30.180 deep resentment from britain to europe well i mean the resentment was already there yeah

00:59:35.440 uh it says iran has has the largest transgender hospital because they force all gays to undergo 1.00

00:59:45.200 sex reassignment the logic is allah is fallible and these people are gay because they're in the wrong 1.00

00:59:50.900 body interesting and uh i heard something about it i didn't know it was true and funny how that mp

00:59:57.020 in the video points out the iranian yes yes interesting yes yes all right then ladies and gentlemen

01:00:06.560 so on to something cultural and interesting and historical which is uh yesterday on the 18th of

01:00:14.560 june it was the 210th anniversary of the battle of waterloo because um you might not believe this

01:00:22.980 but one time a day we were great and powerful and stood up for ourselves and we commanded respect

01:00:31.320 all around the world and of course beyond the the actual battle itself which is significant

01:00:37.140 as as a battle of course really the battle of waterloo is significant in terms of breaking

01:00:43.220 uh the power of france and heralding the beginning of what will become known of course as

01:00:50.900 the pax britannica right that century of british supremacy around the world from after the end of

01:00:57.760 the napoleonic war all the way until basically world war one you know i mean you can argue about you

01:01:04.620 know the minute details of that but that's the general essence of it and so after throwing seven

01:01:12.360 whole coalitions at napoleon we finally beat him yeah and then also uh so one thing

01:01:20.840 as well that i just wanted to talk about is that the fact of the matter is that when it comes to

01:01:26.000 something like waterloo you get this impression that because obviously every generation is naturally

01:01:34.100 most defined by the things that immediately preceded it right and so of course in our case it is only

01:01:41.320 natural despite all the things that we talk about that we live still in the shadow of world war ii we

01:01:46.720 still live in the shadow of world war ii and you know which was in in many ways just as important

01:01:52.720 as world war ii in terms of the psychological effect that it had on europe and how it scarred a whole

01:01:59.740 generation of europeans and of course so from there of course we naturally uh feel more inclined to that

01:02:10.000 you might think oh i i had a grandfather who fought in world war ii i had a great grandfather

01:02:15.420 who fought in world war one as i did and i know stories about them and having that connection

01:02:20.680 you know to your family makes the history a little bit more real yes but this was against the french

01:02:26.740 oh yes yes the last war against the last good war the last one yes the last what truly moral

01:02:33.740 war yes now obviously i i could be glib and i could say isn't it about time we had another

01:02:39.240 and after your segment quite frankly like i i was just thinking maybe the french see this as their

01:02:44.480 return to waterloo you know yes and and despite everything i said in my iran segment i'm all in

01:02:49.860 favor of destabilizing france well but the helpful thing about france as well is that they often just

01:02:56.120 do it to themselves well yes they are experts at destabilizing themselves they're doing a very good job

01:03:02.420 three revolutions two empires five republics yeah very volatile people they take 53 percent of

01:03:11.180 their own gdp in tax which is insane like the world top insane people so but ultimately i do want to

01:03:20.840 draw the point that even though it is true that those events in world war ii world war one might hit

01:03:27.600 closer to home for us it doesn't mean that the actual life laid down in service to britain okay in

01:03:36.200 1945 or 1815 had any more or less worth right that person still picked up that rifle they still fought

01:03:45.740 bravely they still experienced what that must have felt like to be a to be a soldier fighting for britain

01:03:52.240 yeah right doesn't matter or going back to agincourt right the only thing that differentiates these men

01:03:58.340 really is time oh yeah but they're still part of the same continuum yes they're still part of the

01:04:03.760 grand narrative of england of britain and so it's that that's one of the most important reasons why

01:04:10.500 we should constantly commemorate battles and we should commemorate what our men bled for

01:04:16.400 you know and so i wanted to start really by addressing this so there was a policy exchange

01:04:23.280 review and it took a did a survey around 249 secondary schools in the country uh going up to

01:04:31.640 key stage three and for uh american audiences or those who might not use those terms for the curriculum

01:04:37.700 that's all children basically between the ages of 11 to 14 yeah and so by the time that a british

01:04:45.380 schoolchild gets to the age of 14 that's the last time that you're ever taught british history

01:04:52.240 compulsorily right from there you you get to take history as an option for a gcse as i did right i

01:05:00.080 took history as an option and then if you want yes you can go on to a level and you can go on to do

01:05:05.400 a degree in it as well right okay but i mean even back in my day by the time you got onto gcse it was

01:05:11.520 all russian revolution and the war and then it was just the war right world war ii yes yeah british

01:05:18.480 history was long gone yes but it wasn't always like this no it wasn't always like this and we can see

01:05:24.920 here from these details 99 of surveyed schools teach the slave trade yeah and 89 teach the british

01:05:32.460 empire that's good but less than one in five schools teach about the battles of agincourt

01:05:38.200 waterloo or trafalgar right so less than the fifth of our school children are growing up to learn about

01:05:45.800 waterloo right which i consider very just you know discouraging now obviously i understand that there is

01:05:52.900 a finite window of time in the school year and that you can only learn so much yeah but you want to

01:06:00.280 cover the greatest hits you want to cover the greatest hits you want to cover the moments of

01:06:04.160 glory and it's but that's i say glory and i don't mean that glibly because of course war is horrible

01:06:10.240 yeah but there is still virtue in war there is virtue in the bravery there is virtue in standing up to

01:06:17.980 other other power and we were good at it and not being bullied as a nation right yes we were very

01:06:23.180 good at it but i suppose if you want a meek servile population then you don't don't tell them we were

01:06:29.120 strong then the slave trade is uh much more useful yeah because it reminds you to actually stay in

01:06:34.520 your lane be good listen to the minorities yeah and don't have any ideas of your own so you have here

01:06:40.280 this uh article which came from lbc of all places uh which said before d-day there was waterloo

01:06:48.720 why don't we recognize it probably because of places like lbc to be honest with you but nonetheless so

01:06:55.180 they had a they did an interview with a 99 year old gentleman called phil robinson right and phil

01:07:02.440 said that um yes that's right the battle in trafalgar and waterloo were key dates in the curriculum

01:07:09.460 when he was growing up at school yeah right probably in the 30s 40s whatever it would have been

01:07:15.560 and one of the other things that i just wanted to pay attention to was not just what was taught at

01:07:21.040 schools but what used to happen out on the streets of britain so this here is an image that i pulled

01:07:28.000 up of the celebration celebrations for trafalgar day back in 1900 wow around nelson's column and you can

01:07:35.900 see wow it is absolutely fantastic it's stunning right so that's 95 years after the battle of trafalgar

01:07:44.900 and yet it was still able to draw out of living memory but it was still able to draw crowds like

01:07:51.640 that that level of patriotism that level of remembrance for these for these causes i would

01:07:58.600 have loved to have seen london back in those days yeah me too me too uh and but that's sort of the

01:08:05.320 point i also want to draw attention to in this segment there is you know if the feeling is there

01:08:11.460 there is no reason we cannot i'm not saying it'll ever be quite that but we should be aiming for that

01:08:17.920 we should be aiming for that that's what we should be aspiring to yeah and if school isn't going to

01:08:23.300 teach it then it falls on to excuse me it falls on to us to do it right this is um i was having a

01:08:30.260 conversation with uh someone in the family uh the other week and uh she just turned 16 and she said oh

01:08:37.400 i'll never do history again well what do you mean i i finished uh doing history at the age of 18

01:08:44.600 but i never stopped doing history no i i my daughter's still into it i've got it i i'm doing

01:08:50.100 it every i do it every day i mean literally reading something new about it even though you look at

01:08:55.120 like when you talk about british history history and english history there are a limited number of

01:09:00.440 original documents but you still get picked up from something that's different that you've not seen or

01:09:05.240 read or an interesting story and and i think that's really vital it definitely is and alive and if

01:09:11.360 you feel it yeah you will do it instinctually right you'll do it instinctively and so because these men

01:09:18.560 were real right they're not just stories and not just words in history books and i have here a picture

01:09:25.420 of some of the last surviving waterloo veterans uh chelsea hospital uh back in 1880 i mean just look at

01:09:34.340 these guys incredible incredible yeah that's real and obviously john mckay 42nd regiment age 95 wounded

01:09:41.440 at badadios wounded at waterloo robert norton age 90 34th regiment right germany holland you know i'm

01:09:49.300 sitting here thinking i'm thinking you know i like your point about teaching our kids yeah proper

01:09:54.100 history the only thing that gives me pause on that it'd be useful to have some sort of visual materials

01:09:59.340 for me to go with it and i know that i can't just walk into waterstones and pick up a book because

01:10:03.600 it's probably going to be written by a lefty yeah maybe lotus eater should be producing a based

01:10:08.040 history of britain maybe we should take that on as a project it would be a good one i mean i'm gonna

01:10:13.680 ever think about i slightly mentioned it last week when i said we should be up in our own publishing

01:10:18.020 company we have no spoiler we have some plans on that front oh yeah good stuff and then we can write

01:10:25.860 our own books and publish them yes yeah and of course this isn't just a case of uh i just want

01:10:32.100 i just wanted to pull this one up because it's not just the british is it as well you know waterloo was

01:10:37.760 a group effort ladies and gentlemen yes even though we were the main stars yeah and you know the dutch and

01:10:43.760 the prussians they all they all had a hand in it and so you've obviously got a painting here of some

01:10:48.540 um uh dutch uh veterans of waterloo uh with the prince of orange who was on the battlefield that day

01:10:55.300 and i suppose the most this personally for me the most magical of all is the fact that we actually

01:11:01.680 have a very early photo well early technology photograph of the duke of wellington himself

01:11:08.500 oh how really this is him at about the age of 75 76 this would have been taken in the 1840s

01:11:14.940 godly an early photograph yeah incredible where did you get that one from i've not seen that before

01:11:20.620 uh yeah i uh to be honest i didn't discover it till fairly recently myself well to be honest it's one

01:11:26.880 of those things isn't it you think well general uh uh from 1815 there's not going to be a photograph

01:11:33.620 of it so you just don't look for it you know and then you know sometimes history surprises you yeah

01:11:39.900 well this has surprised me um cracker which is wonderful and so naturally i just have to draw

01:11:46.160 attention to one of the greatest historical films of all time and i got so i've lost my leg well

01:11:52.880 spoiler spoilers to my shame i haven't watched this i didn't know it was a thing yeah but you've

01:11:58.660 apparently this is free on youtube this is all free on youtube i'll be watching this then uh i just

01:12:04.020 want to play this 30 seconds sorry i spoil it no no it's all right oh there he is don't it look samson

01:12:09.400 i got it i've lost my name

01:12:19.800 stoic as hell yes yes lost my leg pull yourself together man stiff upper lip we're still going

01:12:42.300 to charge yes don't forget me sir as i go with you

01:12:45.680 and that was real that that actually happened his name was henry paget he was uh earl of uxbridge

01:12:53.440 at the time and yeah he took a shot shattered his right leg and then very composed said that line

01:13:02.640 so this is and uh it's not got the uh time stamp on here but i just also wanted to if i can find it

01:13:11.240 so it's around the 53 second mark

01:13:15.240 now maitland now's your time

01:13:33.240 peak cinema go watch it yeah that is just marvelous it is and i love the way that they got it back back

01:13:57.240 back you know it's like a volley after a volley going oh yeah it's just remarkable but it was did

01:14:01.720 you hear what he said on the horse bucle was saying on the horse now my children charge

01:14:05.720 what a great line i've been waiting decades for this man to go down yeah it's uh it's remarkable and

01:14:14.840 so it but it's all these little details you know this is the thing about history it's all these little

01:14:19.960 details that bring it to life it's these individual moments of heroism it's it's a and it's a collective effort

01:14:27.240 as well at the same time it's all these things i've got to re-watch this that come together

01:14:31.920 about it yeah well if you look there i remember watching it as a as a as a boy yeah you know 19

01:14:37.560 there's a there's a fan cut yeah a fan cut in full hd they they've added a about four minutes to this i

01:14:44.560 think yeah i'm not sure from where because this is the only version i've ever seen but yes and so

01:14:49.780 obviously i can't not mention the fact that of course beau has his absolutely terrific

01:14:56.440 epoch series on the channel and he covered the battle of waterloo because beau is an absolute

01:15:01.880 patriot and cares about these things and he is the based historian i think i watched most of those

01:15:07.420 there's quite a few isn't there there are a lot of epochs now uh no no specifically on the battle of

01:15:12.380 waterloo yes 10 parts or whatever it was but yeah lots on the building as well 10 on on on the battle

01:15:19.640 waterloo that he did an eight part series about the life of napoleon wow and then the three part

01:15:25.220 series about wellington and so between those two yeah yeah yeah and he also i've not added it here but

01:15:31.140 he also discussed uh the film itself waterloo with the critical drinker so if you're interested in that

01:15:37.060 you can go find that on the website too and so there are you know even today it it does matter to

01:15:44.520 some people you know you have so you have to hear waterloo uh station marked the battle of waterloo

01:15:50.460 uh oh was this 200 i thought that this was very embarrassing if i brought up it from 10 years ago

01:15:58.140 well at any point it still brings about the i didn't know they did that at waterloo i still i just

01:16:04.540 genuinely didn't know they still did this at waterloo station because i would have gone if i'd known about

01:16:09.920 it yeah i'd like to see it once yeah i i must say i mean it's going back a while now but when the

01:16:14.660 whole channel tunnel thing was going on and people talking about the expense of stuff i dropped my

01:16:17.960 objections immediately as soon as i found out that the french side was terminating in waterloo

01:16:21.680 i just thought yes oh no i i wasn't going crazy i did pull up the right one it is the 210 so this is

01:16:28.940 a current article so yes this was just this was just yesterday and of course you've got them

01:16:34.640 dressed in that beautiful british imperial red and you know but you what you know i don't want

01:16:40.860 you look at the faces that they're older gentlemen you know the chelsea pensioners and that you know

01:16:45.460 and ultimately there comes a time when it's on the young younger generation to you know to carry the

01:16:51.420 mantle to carry the memory to carry well we we could do with a regiment of red red coats today

01:16:56.280 don't i believe that have you send them straight to dover absolutely possibly cafe yes yes and then

01:17:02.260 who knows what might happen from there oh golly um so yeah i i just think that it's really important

01:17:08.260 to commemorate these events and talk about them whenever necessary and whenever they come up

01:17:14.040 because in talking about them and discussing them at the dinner table with your families and discussing

01:17:19.200 them at friends and hosting local events because there's this one here at uh london waterloo station

01:17:25.380 which is of course one of the places where you'd naturally expect to have them yeah but if we ever want

01:17:30.620 to return to this level of glory then it will require us to really embody the memory of what they fought

01:17:42.680 for and to care about it in a way that we're simply obviously not going to get out of our current elites

01:17:49.200 because they don't want us to remember things like this they don't want you to remember that britain

01:17:54.480 used to be more than uh channel crossings and x factor and deliveroo and human rights we weren't

01:18:02.800 just great we were the greatest that we were the greatest yes we were the greatest no wonder they

01:18:07.740 were their criticism of us now if we're talking about so you're looking back in the past you're

01:18:12.140 your old nationalists you're your old colonialists now it's not the really the question about it's just

01:18:17.380 about having respect yes for our history and these people that are involved in and also

01:18:22.640 that from this was a sense of pride a sense of real companionship belonging and the way

01:18:29.000 thinking forward it gave it creates a positive uh positive memory of how you can move forward

01:18:34.760 not because we want to go out and blow everyone up it's because that unity that thing that we look

01:18:40.280 at whether it's the flag whether it's the royal family whether it's the history joins us and combines

01:18:45.100 us into one it doesn't segment us and then work together victories i mean i i would like to have

01:18:50.940 something like that remembering remigration day we'll have it yes we'll have it dan then we'll

01:18:57.600 celebrate that for the next hundred years a few wait uh yeah and but also you know it's all but

01:19:04.240 it's also about the sacrifice yeah it's not just about the greatness and the glory it's about the

01:19:08.660 sacrifice as well and the duke of wellington after the battle of waterloo said nothing except a battle

01:19:14.340 lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won right so it's also about what they sacrificed

01:19:21.280 it's about the the the psychic damage that was done on them in the name of patriotism in the name of

01:19:28.280 defense and sometimes we have to lose good things precious things in order to save other things and

01:19:36.300 that might just be the case with war takes huge tolls not only those who have to go out and

01:19:43.100 be in combat but it takes tolls on the families who are away from them and it takes tolls on when

01:19:48.380 they return yes i'll never forget you know the impact on my grandfather you know he jolly old

01:19:54.900 man that he was but he clearly suffered from either forms of ptsd or certainly bad memories and we used

01:20:03.540 to say when jim jim is sitting there with his wish uh with his brandy on his own in a corner leave him

01:20:08.560 alone because you didn't want to disturb him on those times and and you know whether he was in

01:20:14.080 his 70s he was still remembering and he never talked about it he well rarely he rarely ever talked about

01:20:21.920 the losses that he faced in the second world war um the only thing he advised me against was never

01:20:29.620 never to eat curries and um well he spent he spent his time in india yeah yeah and he said there's

01:20:36.560 only one reason why they put uh herbs and spices on food and i won't say that on here nowadays because

01:20:42.460 not in front of the children no clearly today everything is healthy and oh i'm sure and it's

01:20:48.920 all all the meat is cut in the right way right of course so uh yeah remember remember those from

01:20:55.620 world war ii remember those from world war one remember those from waterloo and remember those

01:21:01.060 who stood for england yeah okay we can go to the video comments samson thank you

01:21:06.760 good morning lettuce eaters picking up from last weekend's backpacking trip after a terrible night's

01:21:15.180 sleep the weather didn't seem to do me any favors the diffuse lighting from the clouds made for good

01:21:20.380 flower pictures at least before turning around to head to church i almost made it to the pass

01:21:25.500 with the worst of the climbing right at the end this gap between the rocks was really steep

01:21:30.540 and the hard pack snow drift was both annoying and somewhat dangerous to climb and descend without

01:21:36.120 my boot chains hope you guys are having a good week so far he is showing us some really beautiful

01:21:42.620 parts of oregon isn't it just stunning you kind of want to get out fantastic country yeah

01:21:47.520 can we get rid of this ayatollah t-shirt komeini died years ago but marge it works on any ayatollah

01:21:55.460 ayatollah nakbada ayatollah zahedi even as we speak ayatollah razmara and his cadre of fanatics

01:22:02.140 are consolidating their power i don't care who's consolidating their power

01:22:06.060 consider a space with an unknown topology maybe a landscape enveloped in fog or a frying pan with

01:22:25.280 an uneven temperature gradient you might be looking for the lowest or the coolest point

01:22:29.680 one means of finding it is called monte carlo analysis choose points at random and record

01:22:34.780 the depth or temperature as you add more points the more likely it is you have an idea of the

01:22:39.100 point of interest using linear set of points risks missing details hence the need for randomness

01:22:44.260 a wasp's random oscillations when approaching something delicious seems like monte carlo analysis

01:22:48.860 and it's relevant to my next video

01:22:50.720 sorry i was trying trying to pay attention and then they just saw wasps and i just got angry and

01:22:58.820 forgot everything yeah monte carlo analysis used a lot in finance that one

01:23:04.400 all right uh we'll go through uh some of the comments you want to go through on your segment

01:23:08.740 dan oh yes hang on uh here we go uh henry ashman says ted cruz's line about how bible verses say

01:23:17.700 people who defend the state of israel be blessed was just bonkers it clearly felt like he was

01:23:22.060 searching for a line to justify his idea yeah yeah there was there was this other exchange which i

01:23:26.360 would have covered if if i had a bit more time but basically cruz was saying that because the book

01:23:31.540 of genesis says talks about defending the nation of israel which clearly does not mean the modern

01:23:36.480 the modern state no uh and that's why he wants to do it it's like that's bonkers in the time of

01:23:45.920 genesis they did not mean nation to mean anything like what we mean it to mean today nation state

01:23:50.620 didn't exist as a concept yes um come brian kulak says um uh you state a regime change to something

01:24:00.940 worse than the current but the worst for who the iranians and the european probably all of us

01:24:05.380 a matter of perspective it's definitely better for some israel would love to see the uh amkite

01:24:11.400 tribe smashed in the land in chaos also advances the agenda of the clergy plan zionism and communism 0.51

01:24:19.800 and more migration migration to europe um yeah that is uh certainly an element um someone online

01:24:27.520 says i've been through this before and it was a lie and countless people lost their lives why does lying

01:24:33.380 ted think we want to go through that again and a small l libertarian says tucker um um have just said

01:24:41.560 there were 400 000 people in iran uh what ted with did with it okay right so do i do any more

01:24:50.560 oh um okay um uh alex says uh i hate that the thing has gone viral is the iran population clip i don't

01:25:02.220 think it's a good argument for tucker at all no i think it's key no i disagree with that i think he's

01:25:06.140 key if you're if you're going to have a plan you should i mean it's literally sun tzu no your enemy

01:25:10.840 i mean that you've got to start there um and there's a myriad of other moments where tucker

01:25:15.380 demolish demolishes him he also destroyed some taboos with regards to israeli influence and

01:25:20.780 american hawkishness yeah i think that is the key bit that's going to be remembered it's going to be

01:25:24.360 the apac guy versus the america first guy uh and george happ says um uh cruz was given

01:25:31.000 instructions by his apac guys to shill for this war i hope that the normies have learned something

01:25:35.700 from the previous three regime changes which only makes things worse for the population and keeps

01:25:40.380 the war machine going yeah it makes some lobbyists rich but massively drives debt in the in the host

01:25:45.760 in the home nation all right uh steven can you see if i okay no i can't so you're gonna that's right i'll

01:25:51.800 read i'll read i got this light above me i'm afraid uh chad koala koalas are pretty chad uh britain

01:25:57.180 only sent low-level criminals to australia no murderers murderers or rapists because they wanted

01:26:02.860 a functional colony uh it's astounding that britain used to carefully vet their own people's

01:26:08.860 backgrounds before exporting them elsewhere and have now committed to importing anyone who shows

01:26:14.200 up regardless of their background it's a great point yeah that is a good point it's a really good

01:26:18.160 point actually uh samson's moved it up so i can actually now oh ground which is great so we got

01:26:22.980 michael uh is it drew babies um he says the most annoying thing about the modern boat people is

01:26:29.440 that i'm old enough to remember the boat people from vietnam one of whom is a close friend those

01:26:35.200 boat people took great risk travel with families or were mostly women and children and came to

01:26:39.380 integrate into whatever country would accept them they learned the language sought jobs and in many

01:26:44.540 cases refused charity in favor of work which i recall was something that was pretty true at the time

01:26:50.100 contrast that with the modern boat people mostly men true entitled and of course of military service 0.99

01:26:55.600 age and the numbers in england receiving the equivalent of population of several countries of

01:27:00.820 my home state of new york and that per month that's very true we've got henry ashman who says i've seen

01:27:07.780 reports in recent weeks that scientists think humpback whales are trying to speak to humans and other

01:27:12.980 scientists are trying to use ai to learn to speak to whales can a deal be struck with whales to push the

01:27:18.840 boats back to france it sounds ridiculous but honestly it's more viable as an idea than anything

01:27:23.840 the tories of labor have tried lately that said it is keir starmer's government that would introduce

01:27:28.720 be involved in negotiations and i expect david lammy would give away the nation of wales as part of the

01:27:34.380 deal i mean two points on that one somebody in the live chat while we were talking about it said

01:27:40.300 well one one on megalodon i mean if we if we could bring back direwolves why can't we bring back

01:27:45.140 megalodon and just stick them in the channel and the other thing i bet if we do speak to wales

01:27:49.940 you know they're they're friends i'll take this comment with the word they're frantic to speak to

01:27:54.480 us yeah first thing i guarantee they're going to say is jeffrey epstein did not kill himself

01:27:58.040 if we do if we are able to communicate with wales it will be fantastic to finally be able to

01:28:06.400 understand diane abbott yes oh gosh too many too many vowels even think they would turn around and say

01:28:12.020 that's impossible man of kent says the one deterrent that would work for gangs is the penalty for human

01:28:16.960 trafficking is capital punishment leave the h or echo and leave treaties that force us up to take

01:28:22.940 refugees and rewrite our own laws to say that men can't claim asylum only women and children can 0.70

01:28:28.900 there is a very good argument for looking at the european to the u.n convention on refugees

01:28:34.820 i've even heard some in the labor party talk about a need to consider some change or amendment

01:28:41.660 uh but whether we would ever leave it is is something i don't even think the conservative

01:28:46.280 part of a reform would would do although personally speaking i would i think most of the agreements we've

01:28:51.600 done the past their time limit and if we do want new agreements then we renegotiate new agreements

01:28:57.380 uh was he using the crutch as a crutch or was he trying to use it as a paddle it says az desert rat

01:29:04.160 i don't know i think if it did have air and water and he could float he would have probably gone

01:29:08.960 under the water himself all the way there and someone online says if you say you fill the

01:29:13.900 channel with the old pirate ships to stop the dinghies i really we will bring up all those

01:29:19.140 dinghies i just got one minute left so i'll just rush through one uh zesty king says i'm british and

01:29:26.060 have a history degree i was never once taught about the norman conquest the napoleonic wars or the

01:29:31.580 british empire it was uh through traveling the uk and reading books after i left uni that i finally

01:29:37.540 learned that uh the history of my entire country outside of the tudors yeah yeah many such cases

01:29:44.000 uh fuzzy toaster says how can they teach english history if they don't have time uh between

01:29:50.160 uh ms bray's feminist and unco bunko from yes demi-queer proportional fat poetry 0.68

01:29:58.880 good point sorry i'm just flustered but that was really funny

01:30:03.980 and then roman observer says roman empire is best empire but you can be second best

01:30:10.440 no no no no no no the stats are clear and i've i've just seen i've just seen something we're just

01:30:15.720 we're just ending on this uh bloody hope not hate put out a new report right and you're in it

01:30:20.940 i know you've been here for like two weeks i have been trying to get into the hope not hate report

01:30:25.960 for two years for god's sakes put me in you're in put me in i and i've barely started my work

01:30:34.220 i'm only just getting beginning so anyway it's like a badge of honor now isn't it to be on hope

01:30:41.200 not hate's list yeah oh yeah you don't feel as though you know you you're truly to them and

01:30:46.960 offered them and offered them i've written my own hit piece yeah right and sent it to them and said

01:30:51.660 look all you're going to do is upload this but they won't do it that's all we've got time for

01:30:57.100 today ladies and gentlemen if you'd like to join calvin robinson for common sense crusade it begins

01:31:01.600 in half an hour at three and if not then we'll see you tomorrow at one o'clock friday thank you for

01:31:07.500 your time thank you

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 19, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1190

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