The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1193

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus eaters for tuesday the 24th

00:00:04.600 of june 2025 i'm joined by ferris and dan and all hell is breaking loose there are going to be lots

00:00:11.000 of uh the things we're going to cover in the first segment are just literally breaking news

00:00:15.760 uh on trump israel and iran and man it's it's really funny uh then then we're going to talk

00:00:23.560 about how ai is destroying the labor party and then we're going to talk about american women

00:00:27.720 and how they can't find husbands and how they're starting to notice that they can't find husbands

00:00:31.620 anyway uh without further ado let's just crack on yes thank you very much i'm happy to say that

00:00:38.800 my new show realpolitik has just come out uh the first episode was released yesterday and new

00:00:44.100 episodes will be released every monday with maybe a short break in august uh please have a look let

00:00:50.220 me know what you think give your feedbacks topic suggestions i'd love to hear from you um before

00:00:55.800 we go on though can we just have a look at some of the reviews oh i can't help but notice that the

00:00:59.660 reviews are glowing like all of these thank you fantastic you know the brilliant introduction you

00:01:06.160 know thank you for this is going to be great so just saying everyone seems to really like it

00:01:10.440 the feedback we've got very happy to see that thank you guys i appreciate it um so we should have

00:01:17.520 trusted the plan i think i uh well i just want to say yeah i just want to say you can look at my

00:01:23.440 twitter feed i wasn't i wasn't a panicking i i i was a panicker i know i was a panicker lots of

00:01:29.460 people have been and i've watched everyone like be like right something's happened i need to have a

00:01:33.960 hot take and it's like no no no no no no no when stuff is happening you know you don't know yep wait

00:01:38.960 until the dust is settled trust the plan the thing is i genuinely i genuinely don't know is he reacting

00:01:43.960 on gut and he listened to the face right it's either that or 4d chess and i genuinely can't tell the

00:01:50.820 the so okay i've got right i'm sure he does hear that the base isn't happy but the thing is i don't

00:01:57.560 think that trump is some kind of regime change imperialist right what i think trump is is kind

00:02:04.060 of like a king of kings sort of yeah kind of like a yeah exactly like an ancient sort of a syrian king

00:02:10.240 king of kings like that there is a certain level of dignity he expects as being the president of

00:02:14.860 the united states because in his mind this is the sort of over ruler of everything yes uh he's not the

00:02:20.260 absolute monarch of everything but he you know everyone is supposed to pay him fealty yes they're

00:02:25.140 supposed to listen to him his position is important uh but what that also means is he's he's got this

00:02:31.240 kind of no i i'm i'm kind of on both sides right uh even when it's an enemy like iran he still

00:02:39.200 understands and in particular he understands that they they are due a measure of respect yes because

00:02:46.500 he's actually not just 100 on one side and 100 on the other even though he has obligations

00:02:51.020 more obligations to one and not the other and so actually trump i think is trying to be kind of fair

00:02:55.800 yeah and and the way that he plays the man as opposed to the game is always impressive um so with north

00:03:03.220 korea the tweets against kim little rocket man were clearly intended to make some lackey go in

00:03:10.960 kneeling submissively and saying dear leader yeah it's awful oaf committed horrific blasphemies yeah

00:03:20.340 i i i'm sorry to report and then the guy goes out and gets shot yeah uh for just reporting the great

00:03:25.260 thing on that is the little rocket man thing was belittling yes that's because i mean kim john

00:03:29.540 is a small guy yes uh he's a little fat guy and he's definitely gonna have some insecurities yes

00:03:35.600 so trump deliberately belittles but then as soon as he sort of comes over trump's all smiles and

00:03:41.040 sunshine very much so very much so and this and this is this is appealing to what plato would have

00:03:45.480 called the thymotic part of right brain which is what i've talked about quite a lot the you've got

00:03:49.880 the appetitive part which your your appetites uh the rational part which is your calculating reason

00:03:55.140 and then you've got your spirited part which is your sort of emotional sense where you will stand up

00:04:01.560 for yourself if someone has insulted you and all of middle eastern politics in fact most of old world

00:04:06.320 politics revolves around yes this thymotic sense of dignity honor and respect well it looks like today

00:04:12.800 is not israel's day to get sunshine and hugs well no no it isn't um so so before that i wanted to sort

00:04:18.480 of explain why i got it wrong because i will i owe you that at least um we saw bush campaigning on a 0.99

00:04:27.140 restrain foreign policy and ending up in afghanistan and iraq we saw obama saying no stupid

00:04:32.060 wars and ended up in syria and libya and with the sudanese civil war and iran was the last one on the

00:04:38.580 list so when the list of wesley clark which we covered in yesterday's daily so when we when i saw

00:04:46.240 that okay he's bombing the nuclear program now i thought here we go it's happened again uh in 2018

00:04:53.060 trump said pull out of syria and the pentagon kind of said no we're not doing it and then they

00:04:58.240 started lying to him about troop dispositions and then they started deceiving him and lying to him

00:05:02.320 and so my view was that okay we're back to the old game and uh nope trust the plan bros

00:05:09.420 trump is actually cut from a different cloth he is genuinely cut from a different cloth yes and

00:05:14.820 in that vein let's have a look at this video when he was talking about israel iran violating the

00:05:21.680 ceasefire he also talks before with the bit that we're not showing you is him utterly castigating

00:05:26.560 the media yes yes i mean you know he's always called them fake news but he's really going at

00:05:31.060 them here yes he's very sick and tired of them and it's okay impressively so yeah it's really

00:05:36.100 proper angry rant it's hilarious but moving away from the angry rant let's cover this

00:05:41.480 israel israel as soon as we made the deal they came out and they dropped a load of bombs the likes 1.00

00:05:57.660 of which i've never seen before the biggest load that we've seen i'm not happy with israel you know 0.98

00:06:03.360 when i say okay now you have 12 hours you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you

00:06:09.160 have on them so i'm not happy with them i'm not happy with iran either but i'm really unhappy if

00:06:14.560 israel is going out this morning because the one rocket that didn't land that was shot perhaps by

00:06:20.240 mistake that didn't land i'm not happy about that you know what we have we basically have two countries 0.97

00:06:27.780 that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing do you 0.86

00:06:33.660 understand that the new york businessman can't restrain himself that's it that's so good i could 0.82

00:06:43.220 have talked to you about political objectives yeah you could political objectives military force they

00:06:48.540 don't know what the fuck they're talking about i think his is better fair enough credit where credit

00:06:53.600 it's not quite tom's jefferson level of prose but it gets the job done it really gets the job done it 0.97

00:06:57.920 explains the whole situation perfectly succinctly and yeah so what what i like about this is he's

00:07:03.560 constantly offering them off ramps yes right he's saying look you can get out of this without

00:07:07.140 humiliating yourselves and he did this with iran yesterday yes and he's just done it with israel 0.54

00:07:11.800 it might have been by mistake and these rays go oh yeah sorry it was a miscommunication we had set up

00:07:16.260 these things and they've done it but we told them not to but but it was you know small mistake

00:07:19.360 and trump we've got that's no problem whatever you know so he's constantly offering off ramps

00:07:23.480 which is what honestly a good ruler does he's offering off ramps and a severe level of intimidation

00:07:29.420 yes because he was making horrific threats about the iranians as to what would happen to them if

00:07:35.080 they reply if they retaliated against the bombing of their nuclear program i love this so much sorry

00:07:40.340 to jump on right but um this this whole thing has been an incredible uh example of great man politics

00:07:48.960 yes right exactly really is sorry go on go on yeah no no that that's totally fair and he sort of

00:07:55.220 castigates the fake news uh for saying that it was only partly destroyed in fairness it was probably

00:08:01.160 only partly destroyed okay so let me jump in on this because this is just one of those things where

00:08:06.100 it's it's clearly so when when everyone was like oh my god america's just bombed around right you know

00:08:12.260 everyone starts panicking on twitter i didn't because i was like right okay but he's done this before

00:08:17.560 yes he did it with sunamani he did it with syria as well um back in his first term when everything

00:08:22.360 was coming to a head he's bam he's a bomb shut up right right and okay yeah he comes out and then

00:08:28.860 immediately the hyper narrative is the most powerful narrative you know oh i've totally destroyed

00:08:35.600 completely ruined yes nothing left of it and the question is well did he because he's saying a lot

00:08:42.100 of things and trump is uh known to slightly inflate the theatrical man a slightly theatrical man um

00:08:48.260 and then of course we saw the pictures like it doesn't look totally destroyed and as you can see

00:08:52.680 there's you know there was no nuclear leakage or anything like this no but what's the point of

00:08:57.340 the hyper narrative right so the the part of it was the military did great and to be honest with you

00:09:02.840 it looked like it was a really well executed yes maneuver by the u.s military so fair play

00:09:07.600 iranians saw absolutely nothing yeah exactly and and they completely perfectly um played it out so

00:09:14.140 good for them but also what it does is gives the iranians the opportunity to roll over and show the

00:09:18.940 belly right yes and say yeah look you've destroyed our nuclear program it's totally gone yes if only we

00:09:26.020 were as great as president trump you know what i mean certainly certainly no need to inspect it now

00:09:30.080 but it's gone no need to keep firing rockets at us because the nuclear program's over no need to

00:09:34.620 send in inspectors you know what that's that's a good point so trump has actually kind of done them

00:09:38.480 a favor here in a way he's actually done in a way in a way and it does help that it seems that they

00:09:43.400 snuck out a bunch of these 60 enriched uranium the problem that they have is that the level of

00:09:48.540 israeli intelligence penetration and american intelligence penetration of iran is so high

00:09:53.440 that even if they did sneak out that nuclear material if they were to try to enrich it and process

00:10:00.600 it into a bomb they have zero assurance that they won't be detected they have zero secrecy and they

00:10:06.600 can assume zero secrecy because right now everybody who's alive in iran at a senior leadership level

00:10:12.960 is a suspected spy by that everyone who's alive yeah they keep going through people because these

00:10:17.780 are at least keep killing them exactly yeah exactly so at the senior leadership level if they were to

00:10:22.560 decide to go ahead and try to enrich and to try to weaponize the enriched uranium they're stuck

00:10:29.700 and so what what it looks like to me is that trump has basically set the clock back like five or ten

00:10:33.760 years easily right and so you know so the iranians are basically like yeah okay look they've ruined 1.00

00:10:38.200 our leadership you know everything's a mess we've we've had our facilities bombed they probably are

00:10:42.880 damaged at least probably very severely probably severely damaged yes uh and so there's just nothing

00:10:48.380 they can actually do uh apart from just go yeah okay well i mean we could fire conventional rockets

00:10:52.780 back at israel if they keep annoying us but that's that's where it's gone yep and so trump has

00:10:56.740 essentially like solved the problem for the israelis he sold the problem for the israelis

00:11:01.280 and he gave the iranians this off-ramp yes which was a very humiliating but pretty acceptable off-ramp

00:11:09.600 he said that they've officially responded to our obliteration of their nuclear facilities

00:11:14.920 with a very weak response so like this this whole thing is just so funny right because it's the warnings

00:11:21.440 in advance yes right so as i understand it uh the who's it like the americans and the iranians

00:11:28.340 warned each other pretty much the strikes pretty much undertook the strikes so basically no one was

00:11:34.480 killed yeah uh because i mean the the casualties for this is even 100 people have died in this

00:11:39.820 uh very low casualties right in which one the the american strike on iran and the iranian strike on

00:11:45.920 america oh yes between the americans and the israelis there were no american casualties uh on

00:11:51.640 the iranian side we don't know they were all underground maybe they were buried in the rubble

00:11:55.040 maybe they weren't they probably was they did they were probably a few days notice yeah but they did

00:11:58.700 have notice and they evacuated a bunch of material which means that they evacuated a bunch of people

00:12:02.740 and the israelis aren't taking many casualties they've got bomb shelters under everything yes whenever

00:12:06.580 the alarm goes off you know because it takes ages for the missiles to get this is going so hard

00:12:10.080 so like this is this is just a collateral damage war right essentially i mean the iranians weren't

00:12:16.400 the americans that this was happening the americans evacuated everything of substance from the base that

00:12:21.940 was getting bombed and so i love how everybody put up their pads and got smacked and yep fair it was a

00:12:29.300 fair fight yeah shake hands down when we can move on exactly so if we can get really impressive yeah so

00:12:34.540 go back to this one this this i find really really funny because basically um it was at this one there's

00:12:41.060 another one where trump basically accepted that the iranians had to do something back yes and he was

00:12:46.180 like yeah go on then this one oh it's all out of their system yeah and there will hopefully be no

00:12:51.480 further hate see that that's that's what i mean right he he actually understands the people he's

00:12:57.380 dealing with in a way that none of the liberals and he gave them the last reply yeah he gave exactly

00:13:02.160 dismissed it because he he knew that the exactly the sort of like thematic politics yes the ancient

00:13:07.620 world that are playing out in the middle east they can't just allow uh an insult to go on a bench

00:13:12.260 right and this is like on every level of society isn't it exactly like in every way yes yes yes

00:13:17.800 because they're an honor culture they're not a dignity pride culture a pride culture yeah and and so

00:13:22.880 trump understands it and these look most importantly they've got it out of their system and it's just

00:13:27.040 like there we go feel better now yeah exactly feel better and they do feel better

00:13:31.880 they declared victory exactly there we go victory they declared victory after having this

00:13:38.020 bond they so the way that they did the strike they said that they launched an equal number of

00:13:45.080 missiles at the u.s as the u.s launched at them so they insisted that there is a parity that there

00:13:50.600 was an equality there yeah um we are big and tough there really militarily but here we are and

00:13:57.480 they let them get it out of their system perhaps iran can now proceed to peace and harmony in the

00:14:02.980 region and i will enthusiastically encourage israel to do the same and we saw the very enthusiastic

00:14:08.260 encouragement just now in the video yeah honestly this it's so funny it is like how trump actually is

00:14:15.220 just like you say playing the men yes right and this this was again what most of ancient politics

00:14:20.220 revolved around this what's the guy like yes and trump knows it so is this is just so he's reading

00:14:25.680 them as people and he is actually able to empathize with them yeah as opposed to somebody like obama

00:14:33.460 who went to cairo and said all of you egyptians just want to become liberal democrats and all of

00:14:38.920 the middle east just wants to become liberal democracy and what did we get instead we got the 0.96

00:14:42.360 fucking muslim brotherhood yeah and so there's a there's a weird thing with liberal uh international 0.98

00:14:47.000 politics which is uh sort of rules-based probability calculations yes where they're like oh you know 0.99

00:14:52.260 there's like a 70 chance they'll do this or a 20 chance they'll do that right it's like okay but

00:14:56.280 trump is going to make it so they do what he wants by just more or less pressing his ego on them

00:15:00.940 more or less you know simultaneously being completely unable to figure out what trump's going to do

00:15:05.120 next yeah i remember an interview with putin and he said who would you rather have as president

00:15:08.900 and he said biden straight away because biden i can predict yes we good luck trying to predict

00:15:13.380 this guy and absolutely and also like trump is really effective at using this i mean look you

00:15:19.740 can see how he's threaded the needle here yeah it's like iran like declaring absolute victory after

00:15:24.220 killing zero americans it's like okay you lost your nuclear program the americans now have to fix a

00:15:30.640 runway yeah it's not quite the same thing but this this is a honestly is really well handled i think i

00:15:37.380 respect respect i was really worried that we were going to have the same uh bush obama playbook

00:15:44.200 where they say one thing and in the end they get dragged into another it happened to trump with syria

00:15:49.120 and actually no he's playing the man he's playing the game he understands these people he understands

00:15:55.220 the rules and he he's won plus he's won as well as on the international stage he's completely boxed in

00:16:02.200 the neocons because the neocons have spent the last four days saying they've been salad whatever trump

00:16:06.980 says is the right thing to do you even had bolton come out and say no no no please go with regime 0.98

00:16:13.940 change and you had mark levin losing his damn mind whatever little is left of it saying no how dare 0.90

00:16:19.960 he not pursue full regime change so they they they went and they tried to say we're mega now yeah and 0.97

00:16:27.680 then trump did years ago we were trying to calm down but now we're exactly exactly and now they're sort

00:16:34.840 of left completely homeless and irrelevant so he's managed to in a way appease everybody yep get what

00:16:41.380 he wanted and avoid a total war but also but also now the people on the back foot are actually the

00:16:47.720 israelis now the israelis are on the back foot like because everyone's like oh well israel drives

00:16:52.600 america's foreign policy it's like well everyone thought that it did but now trump's like israel don't

00:16:57.600 you dare it did drive the foreign policy for 25 years i agree all of these middle eastern wars it was

00:17:02.840 driven by israel first of course and now all of a sudden it's not true and if trump wanted to say

00:17:09.460 switch off the air defense in israel uh the thad operators won't won't keep working the jets that

00:17:15.460 are flying all over the region shooting down drones won't keep working the aegis cruisers will will not

00:17:20.780 shoot down any missiles the israelis would have absolutely nothing yep uh because the arrow 3 system

00:17:26.200 can't handle the iranian barrages on its own it needs that additional support from uh france

00:17:33.820 britain the united states that's actually doing the proper missile defense in addition to the

00:17:39.580 israeli systems and also speaking then of the men this means that netanyahu has to face down trump 1.00

00:17:45.360 and trump is used to getting his way he's just i mean he literally just called them effing idiots 0.99

00:17:51.180 who don't know what they're doing exactly he's not happy with the israelis so now netanyahu has to 0.99

00:17:55.820 be probably on a call with him right now being like oh yes mr president like yeah if i were you

00:18:02.340 i don't want to be in the now today exactly i mean i never want to be in the now especially not now

00:18:06.680 i don't want to be in the now just i if i were him i would just be like yeah okay good point maybe

00:18:10.160 we'll knock it off for a bit but what what can the israelis do because they said you know they're

00:18:13.800 going for a bomb these are the sites you know we've got to stop them now so trump's like okay fine i'll

00:18:18.600 bomb a mountain then because that's that it was it's you know the issue is never the issue the

00:18:22.820 issue is always revolution right yes the idea was it was an escalatory ladder exactly regime change

00:18:28.440 but now netanyahu has to be like yeah okay you did exactly everything that we wanted done

00:18:32.200 and uh you've pleased everyone on every side and they've got to kind of just eat it they've got

00:18:37.560 they've got to eat it and they've got to stick to pounding gaza which is you know not very nice 0.97

00:18:42.080 but at least it's not back to the basics yeah exactly exactly back back to what they can

00:18:46.500 actually do um so we've ended up you know in this weird situation where the iranians pretty much

00:18:54.200 told the americans what they were bombing the americans told the iranians what they were bombing

00:18:57.780 everybody got really what they wanted so weird how the iranians and the americans are getting on so

00:19:02.580 well the thing is ever since the syrian government fell i've been saying that there is a play here for 0.91

00:19:11.560 the iranians to partner with the americans if only they were to be slightly less insane

00:19:15.280 and after khamenei dies it's going to be a military nationalist government and a military

00:19:21.480 nationalist government is going to keep some of the appearances of the islamic state but we've had this

00:19:27.540 time and time again throughout muslim history this is how the persians ended up ruling the the abbasset 0.89

00:19:32.720 caliphate and then the turks ended up ruling the abbasset caliphate what there was a caliph there there was

00:19:37.620 the sort of religious authority there but in reality it was the military men in charge this is

00:19:41.600 how we had mamluk egypt yeah i was going to say we looks a great example exactly exactly so you had

00:19:47.400 all of these military regimes nominally under religious leadership but it was the military men

00:19:54.100 in charge and after khamenei dies this is pretty much what's going to happen in iran uh or at least

00:19:59.500 this is the you know most other scenarios are much worse for the iranians this is the best one for 0.99

00:20:04.420 the iranians and in that scenario they have uh pakistan a sunni power right next door hates them

00:20:11.560 turkey sunni power right next door hates them but also a military nationalist government is far less

00:20:17.680 of an irrational prospect yes and a messianic religious fanatic yes exactly you know military

00:20:24.920 men are generally cut from the same cloth as in what's happening in reality really matters exactly

00:20:30.080 this is win or die live you know win or lose live or die so that's that's entirely preferable

00:20:35.020 absolutely absolutely so it looks like we're i mean that's it the islamic revolution has lost 0.90

00:20:41.140 uh they can claim now for a few days we stood up to the americans and we fired that but everybody in

00:20:47.860 iran knows that this is propaganda and while they're happy that they didn't get completely humiliated

00:20:53.760 they know that's only because trump's nice that's right it's literally just down to trump being nice

00:20:58.900 because he doesn't want to get it get sucked into another regime change war he managed to do it

00:21:03.540 and now he's staring down the israelis and uh thank you for your attention to this matter

00:21:08.860 i this is going to be my new line attention to this matter 0.85

00:21:14.120 no qataris killed no americans killed very few iranians killed there you go israelis killed this 0.53

00:21:21.920 this was the the first iran-israel war was just thrilling and so we are congratulations world it's time 0.99

00:21:28.300 for peace and uh does he do it he imposed a ceasefire yeah the israelis are still trying to rope him in

00:21:37.860 but as i said if they switch off the air defense they've had the flames it's just been like you've

00:21:42.880 got to stop it now as well iran isn't the problem iran are like yeah no we're good boys now and the

00:21:47.240 iranians are saying we accept the ceasefire we didn't violate it yep uh they denied that they were

00:21:52.240 responsible for the you know the iranians are showing the belly you know exactly big dog has come

00:21:56.460 along the iranians are rolled over the israelis are still yapping exactly okay well you know good

00:22:01.160 luck and i mean they can't handle the consequences of it that's that's the long and short of it if

00:22:05.780 the americans decide okay no air defense for three days they will have nothing they will have absolutely

00:22:13.120 no say in it they'll intercept some iranian missiles but the rate of damage would be much

00:22:18.400 much bigger and they'll have to back down and so the blame will be on them as well and the blame

00:22:23.380 will be on them um this is imperial consolidation at its finest this is trump saying i'm in charge

00:22:29.220 i will indulge you here and there i will do things that i think are important but when the time comes

00:22:35.960 that's it i'm in charge um very genuinely impressive yeah genuinely impressive i've got to come back to

00:22:44.500 my question though was it was was there any hint of this as being a plan a week ago or does he just

00:22:50.520 feel it in the moment and he ends up here that all of fanatic politics is feeling in the moment

00:22:56.100 it the thing is i think he says that both sides came to me is it in this tweet or in the next tweet

00:23:02.800 he said that both sides came to me uh asking for a ceasefire and uh i've accepted and helped bring it

00:23:13.480 out so he sort of uh claimed that both the iranians and the israelis were asking for a ceasefire he gave

00:23:20.740 them both an off-ramp and said i've decided and why because they've both gotten it out of their systems

00:23:26.860 and the nuclear program was blown to smithereens that small detail there so he got what he said he

00:23:35.460 wanted which is no iranian nuclear weapons uh the israelis got what they say they wanted but

00:23:41.260 what they want is actually a considerably longer list up to and including regime change

00:23:45.920 and uh here we are just a quick question how bothered about the nuclear program does iran seem

00:23:53.540 look it's always been misunderstood it was never about getting a weapon because if it was about

00:24:01.020 getting a weapon they would have been able to do that in 2003 2004 like right after the right after

00:24:09.120 the iraq invasion when the americans went on either side of iran the iranians could have and should have

00:24:14.400 gone for the bomb instead they shut it down but what what i'm saying is like hold on okay what they

00:24:19.560 did was keep on enriching and keep on building up nuclear capability to have to say we are fully

00:24:26.880 autonomous in the nuclear cycle we can do everything from mining uranium to enriching it to to weapons level

00:24:33.180 without building a weapon and the idea was always we're going to use that to force negotiations and

00:24:40.280 force talks when you the united states have to sit down with iranian representatives you are therefore

00:24:46.420 acknowledging iran as your equal and that idea of parity that we are the equal of the great

00:24:51.520 power recognition it's about recognition it's always about recognition if they can get the americans the

00:24:58.780 europeans to sit down with them as an equal that means that they are delivering to their people iran

00:25:04.720 being a great power it's all ego policy it's fundamentally pride it's all about pride yeah yeah

00:25:10.000 and that's pure thymus yes so what what i mean is like iran hasn't been acting like oh no they've struck

00:25:16.840 our nuclear program it's over bros yeah they haven't been acting like no no no because the nuclear program

00:25:21.580 is not key to their strategic like well the tactical plan in the moment right exactly we're going to

00:25:27.400 fire conventional rockets and we were always going to fire conventional rockets yes you know take out

00:25:30.580 the nuclear plan it's like that's that's as you say like a kind of conceptual weapon we're using yes

00:25:35.840 but it's not intrinsic to the actual plan the neocon strategy um narrative has been the moment they

00:25:41.740 get a nuclear which means you think which was always false because israel has a second strike 0.69

00:25:46.540 capability and even from islamic theology you can't justify nuking israel in a way that guarantees 0.87

00:25:53.240 your own obliteration well just practically it's far more um and practically it's always been a

00:25:58.160 deterrent weapon and you can't deter the americans with nuclear weapons yeah not with a handful of

00:26:02.860 them you know yeah uh so you've built five congratulations what are you going to do with

00:26:06.960 them uh they'll get intercepted and you'll get nuked to utter annihilation so yeah even it was never

00:26:13.300 practically viable for them even if every single one of them hit america is gargantuan yes you know

00:26:17.880 okay you wipe out five american cities there must be hundreds of american cities exactly as long as you do the

00:26:22.360 democrat ones first well they're all they're all democrats you know so at the end of the day

00:26:28.100 was anything of value lost uh so we'll go through a couple of comments yeah yeah yeah that's that's

00:26:34.260 honestly this has been uh a drunk changeling says make gunboat diplomacy again yes absolutely he has

00:26:40.180 made gunboat diplomacy again uh great again uh glee 77 brings a whole new meaning to striking a deal

00:26:48.020 quite uh bobobad i have a good deal of respect for you for coming on today after yesterday i think

00:26:54.680 this ordeal shows that gen x and y mentality can be stuck in the 2000s like how boomers are stuck in

00:26:59.160 the 70s 80s guilty i think people of our age are actually a lot less uh indoctrinated than the boomers

00:27:05.880 were frankly the boomers are struggling yeah because they had a very strong meta narrative yes for the

00:27:13.020 boomers the tv is a primary sense organ it's not it's not just that i mean it is obviously but it's

00:27:17.100 not just that it's it's that the the meta narrative they are given is that this is like the the telos of

00:27:22.740 justice at the arc arc of justice at the end of history yes we defeated the nazis we defeated the

00:27:27.200 communists we're the good people and you'll notice they're the heroes in every movie even like when

00:27:31.880 they're old they're still the heroes in the movie yeah you know over the young people and so it's just

00:27:35.720 like okay that's all well and good and i'm glad you've got that but actually you're going to be

00:27:39.240 gone soon and the rest of us still have to live in the real world yeah so gen x was a lot less

00:27:43.420 indoctrinated into this sort of you know post-war mindset yeah yeah so anyway thank you bobo bad that

00:27:50.360 was a nice comment and the the shadow band says uh let's eaters do not drop those bangers if you do

00:27:54.760 it's a major violation bring your podcasters home

00:27:56.840 what a great segment i'm sorry i'll all right so i thought we'd talk about uh the coming ai revolution

00:28:06.960 and the effect is going to have on rachel from accounts because i don't think it's going to be

00:28:09.980 very good before we get to that i should mention we've just launched a new show real politic i've

00:28:14.240 watched it it's very good fraz hasn't watched it but he's in it that's why it's good um and carl did

00:28:19.920 we did we pick about the right time to launch a geopolitics show i mean i think it's all over now

00:28:25.200 so maybe we won't need it now something will happen something will happen um uh and and i don't want

00:28:32.460 to plug my own stuff but i will um and the reason i'm doing so is because i just uh put out an episode

00:28:37.360 a little while back on taxation insanity of what the what the labor party is trying to do in this

00:28:41.600 country about how it basically um is trying to tax its way out of all of its problems but it's just

00:28:46.880 making all of its problems worth and and one of the graphs i shared in that episode was this so

00:28:51.840 um i mean it's helpfully labeled when the budget was and basically the blue lines is is when you gain

00:28:57.280 jobs yes the red lines is is both after the budget and huge job losses yeah i mean you can

00:29:04.280 see when the budget happened right yeah this is catastrophic very clearly even if it wasn't labeled

00:29:09.900 you'd be able to tell when the budget was her clever idea was we want more jobs in the public sector 1.00

00:29:15.500 so what we do is we're tax jobs in the private sector however the tiny flaw in that plan is that

00:29:21.740 the latter pays for the former yes yeah anyway i put that episode out a little while ago but if you

00:29:27.320 believe in the magic money tree you don't have a problem well yes unfortunately the magic money

00:29:31.300 tree doesn't believe in them so they've got that problem thing is you've got to remember the plan

00:29:35.040 is basically one day every single person on earth works for the british government yes yes that's

00:29:39.680 genuinely preferably the nhs yeah well yeah well the nhs being a subsidiary of the british government

00:29:44.480 so at some point every single person on earth this is the imperial plan of the labor party

00:29:49.720 that every human being will be born cradle to grave all places at all times working for the 1.00

00:29:55.420 british i mean well it's not just them the toy party as well they're both committed to above

00:29:59.100 inflation um gains for the nhs so basically i mean mathematically that does consume the entire

00:30:04.300 universe at some point yes it does so anyway that was when i did that episode it was seven months we

00:30:11.660 are now up to nine months of um falls in employment wow and it's really accelerating this is a you

00:30:18.260 know a piece referencing this bit here i can't believe rachel from accounts is 1.00

00:30:22.240 extraordinary isn't it she didn't she looked so competent i heard she was brilliant 1.00

00:30:27.140 first female chancellor so all those little girls can see um somebody of their gender screw it up 1.00

00:30:32.960 um okay so this is the uh the report it's referencing some um from s&p global you know

00:30:38.220 uk flashes pmi signals lackluster june um i won't i won't bother you with all the details

00:30:42.900 if only someone could have predicted this though if only someone could have predicted who could have

00:30:46.540 known that taxes the hell out of the private sector public sector was going to cause this

00:30:50.720 i did do a few episodes on it before it happened but only one person on earth and it was dan

00:30:54.620 to be fair it was quite obvious it was a fairly cool yes i think we're heading towards some kind

00:31:01.500 of stagflation you know mild inflation and inflation's coming off dropping well that's because they're

00:31:07.180 cramming so many people into the country right well i mean you won't because they need to print money

00:31:10.700 so because people are going to stop buying these bonds i won't give you the full you know blah blah

00:31:14.600 from this but you know key points are growth barely positive um i mean growth is 0.1 for the

00:31:21.500 last quarter so that's smaller than the population increase one would assume yes definitely and it's

00:31:26.940 significantly smaller than the coupon we're paying on the debt and the debt is the same size as the

00:31:31.280 economy so the the economy really needs to grow faster yes the debt is growing at five percent a

00:31:37.800 year the economy is growing at 0.1 but at least we pay a billion pound a month for foreigners benefits 1.00

00:31:43.560 yes there's at least that yes so somebody's getting helpful yeah yes manufacturing shrinking

00:31:49.800 fast this report says um service step in with the steel isn't it you know services are holding level

00:31:56.420 barely increasing but it's being wiped out by basically everything people who actually do stuff

00:32:00.940 i mean apart from serve food right they're going right public sector is going up quite a lot if you work

00:32:06.500 in a supermarket if you work in a restaurant there's more productivity or more production there if you

00:32:12.060 can call it that but if you're actually making real things yes that feed you and that you need in

00:32:16.800 your home and that sort of you know you can sell to the rest of the world boink that's so as for

00:32:21.520 working in the restaurant yes it is up negligibly just about see it right everything else you can

00:32:28.040 definitely see going down except for public sector which is you know you can see that and the quality

00:32:34.300 services the quality of services must be improving dramatically oh you would think wouldn't you oh

00:32:40.560 yeah um demand and sentiment week and jobs being cut um i mean just as a bit of an anecdote um i was

00:32:47.240 speaking to some guys who are still doing vc oh yeah and i was asking them about deal flow and you

00:32:51.680 know what prospects are seeing in the uk and they said yeah basically we don't even bother looking in

00:32:56.220 the uk anymore wow yeah because every time we invest in the uk it fails and it normally fails

00:33:02.420 because of something the government has done and therefore we just don't waste our time and

00:33:06.700 these are all british guys who relocated to you know los angeles or new york or somewhere like that

00:33:12.580 but it's just not worth even trying to invest in this country at this point so they've given up

00:33:17.280 and um it also reminded me of a conversation i had with will straw he was jack straw's son who used to

00:33:22.740 run labor list and stuff like that a few years ago and he was saying to me you know i don't understand

00:33:26.820 how if a teacher's working in the private sector they're adding value but if they're working in the

00:33:30.800 public sector they're reducing value or nurse or something like that right and i was saying you

00:33:35.340 know you know you what you okay on the face of it that's fine but you've got to look at efficiency

00:33:39.920 you've got to look further i mean that you'll find efficiency is in the frontline job but you've

00:33:44.580 where the money's coming from well that as well yeah but you've got to look beyond the frontline job

00:33:49.140 itself you've got to look at um the admin the management the support the logistics all of that

00:33:54.120 would be massively less efficient in a public sector because it simply doesn't need to be

00:33:58.180 it's also like why i pay for a service is to get something out of it when the government forces

00:34:04.720 me to pay for a service i have no choice and i often don't you need it you know i haven't needed

00:34:10.840 to go to the hospital for a little while so i mean if you do don't bother me then just just pay the 50

00:34:15.720 quid and go to a private gp it's just it's just so much easier you get seen and it's done it's it's it's

00:34:21.240 a kind of like artificial vampiric pseudo economy yes that the government has uh and so to be like

00:34:27.700 wise don't see the difference they're both teachers it's like okay and um i mean she she's she's left

00:34:33.580 now but my mum was a nhs nurse for years and years and years and i used to get bombarded with stories

00:34:38.660 about massive inefficiencies i mean i i just just to pick a couple off the top of my head uh one time

00:34:45.040 her mouse stopped working for a computer right so she wanted to go on amazon buy a 10 pound mouse

00:34:49.720 and they're like no you can't do that you know we we got a we got a list supplier system so she

00:34:54.860 went on that and it's 60 quid but but okay so right fine we have to do that then do another thing

00:35:00.180 they they used to keep a box um a box of light bulbs right but now when the light bulb goes you

00:35:05.440 have to pay 80 quid for the man from the from the company to come out to change the light bulb you're

00:35:10.520 not allowed to do it yourself you get told off you simply corruption well the eastern in me just 0.54

00:35:16.140 says that this is obviously the reason that system was put in is because the last labor government

00:35:21.300 knew but they were really inefficient but they thought okay the the private sector is efficient

00:35:25.920 so what we do is we contract out these services to the private sector so they went to the private

00:35:30.100 sector and said so how much can you change a light bulb for and they said well seriously um 80 quid

00:35:35.220 yeah from government money and so it is corruption and they were like okay yeah yeah that must work

00:35:40.500 so they so that's what they do now back to back to you know brokonomics but um you know the the

00:35:48.220 whole premise of my brokonomics series is that basically the economy has changed yes so the old

00:35:56.160 the old system pre-internet was we are going to do more with more yeah so we're going to open another

00:36:01.400 factory another showroom um you know hire more sales people i mean that sounds like a good idea

00:36:06.660 well and that's fine pre-productive things yeah but do more with more and then after the internet

00:36:12.560 it came all about um we're going to do you know more with less it's going to be about efficiency and

00:36:17.320 unit cost and we're going to drop so we are going to do more but we're going to achieve it not through

00:36:21.360 more but efficiency and unit cost and code and all that kind of stuff and um

00:36:26.940 i'm not sure that that labor have got their head around the internet revolution yet

00:36:34.540 i believe it even another 20 years yes so it makes me not you know i'm not entirely confident

00:36:41.900 therefore that they're going to get their head around the next tsunami which is probably going

00:36:46.180 to be significantly bigger which is ai um i mean this is just an anecdote i saw but it makes a point

00:36:51.140 quite well you know a partner one of the largest accounting firms in the world said something to

00:36:55.140 me that should be incredibly concerning for white collar uh workers paraphrase i'm convinced ai will be

00:36:59.680 able to do my job within the next couple of years i used to draft a report and it was 80 percent there

00:37:03.480 yes there were flaws in it but it's scary how convincing it is i really think it's a matter of 0.97

00:37:07.040 time well i'm convinced that ai will be able to do rachel reeves's job because she's crap 0.70

00:37:12.080 i think most people could yeah i think if anybody can do that you could ask one of those chairs to do

00:37:18.320 her job and it'll manage somehow i mean anyone who's balanced any kind of household budget would 0.99

00:37:23.000 surely be able to yes but then they're not going to be committed to the universal doctrine of human

00:37:27.220 rights no yes entirety of mankind so anyway moving on but i mean this this is a coming thing it is

00:37:33.140 it is going to be a huge another quick anecdote um i knew an accountant from the pre um internet days

00:37:41.620 and you know he was saying he used to spend all month doing the the monthly management reports for

00:37:46.960 his for his firm that he worked in and he and he pestered them relentlessly to get this piece of

00:37:51.280 software and this was like you know 30 years ago or something they finally got him the piece of

00:37:54.560 software then took him half an hour to do it and he just spent the rest of the time basically playing

00:37:59.420 golf fair enough there are efficiencies to be had with doing this stuff um but you know it brings

00:38:05.220 it brings me on to i don't know if you saw this i did see this yeah so this is um well i won't i

00:38:11.980 won't bother playing it but basically what happened is these guys have just graduated and this guy

00:38:16.680 perhaps a little bit um bit unwisely just holds up his his laptop and says yeah i did the whole thing on

00:38:23.340 god he looks like a meme doesn't he he does he looks like a would you play the video i'm like

00:38:29.560 yeah go on let's yeah okay right fair enough

00:38:31.700 wow this has been remixed a bit okay fine that has been remixed a bit i find i should have i should

00:38:49.240 have picked a different one but but yeah you know he and he got to keep his degree because

00:38:54.280 well why does he get to keep his degree that's hilarious well because of this point you know um

00:38:59.560 a brutally honest conversation with a top tier academic in charge of examining classics bha she

00:39:04.220 believes that all but one i.e 98.5 of the cohort used ai in varying degrees of illegality to complete

00:39:13.040 compositions in their final degree submissions you know so i just want to be clear i didn't use ai at

00:39:19.040 all in my degree you should have done i know but that not because the point is not the qualification

00:39:27.040 right right the the point is actually when you do the thing and you sit down and you spend however

00:39:33.700 many hours every day thinking and working and grinding through it you gain benefits that i think

00:39:41.980 that's thinking about it wrong i think you should be using it but using it in the right way now i'm not

00:39:46.600 saying to write your stuff yeah i'm not i'm not i'm not saying you can't like you know use chat gps

00:39:51.060 gpt is like a research tool it's like where did plato say okay yeah that's exactly it's just like an

00:39:56.460 advanced google search but when it comes to that guy had obviously got it to write his bloody essay

00:40:00.860 for yes right yes and that's the part that you need to be doing because that is actually where you

00:40:05.420 strain your brain muscles and like any muscle if you don't repeatedly use it and make it better

00:40:10.280 it withers yeah so you have not personally gained the benefit of actually doing the degree you've 0.90

00:40:15.900 just got a piece of paper and yet you're still a retard what do you think should should um students be 1.00

00:40:21.260 using ai absolutely not yeah it's it's it's it's flogged i mean use google search use it as google

00:40:28.620 search but beyond that it's just crazy the the the purpose of it's now just about gaining credentials

00:40:37.860 and so that devalues the degree itself that it's just a credential but it's meant to be a learning

00:40:46.300 journey you're meant to actually discover something about the world learn something about the world

00:40:50.320 in order to actually qualify you for something this does nothing for you so i've got to say i i go

00:40:57.080 completely the other way on this one okay i think i think absolutely should be using right

00:41:01.740 for several reasons first this stuff is completely unbannable you're not going to be able to ban it

00:41:06.900 and how how even would you you could just require written tests yeah okay my second point is that the

00:41:13.160 degrees should embrace it but they should just simply change how they test those skills so obviously 1.00

00:41:18.120 you know this guy was able to do it because of a heavy reliance on coursework because it's easier to

00:41:22.380 mark and all the rest of it right each i mean fine have a coursework element but also have

00:41:26.980 written exams and i think you should add in verbal presentations honestly if if it gets to the

00:41:31.560 point where like 98 of them are doing the coursework via chat gpt abandon the coursework

00:41:36.320 yes yeah there's no point to it no you've you've learned nothing you've just handed me in an ai

00:41:40.440 generated script pointless why why am i reading this yeah if it didn't come from you there's no

00:41:44.840 reason for me to even give it the time of day because why am i reading this what am i doing

00:41:49.100 reading grok yeah exactly it's it's sort of yeah it's it's it's it's an insult to the teacher

00:41:54.800 so it only it has to be only written tests and honestly probably speaking tests yeah i i would i

00:42:01.040 would i would go the verbal presentation because i'm thinking back to my career um sometimes i'd hand

00:42:05.980 in a written report but 90 percent of the time you're standing there explaining it so i'd say you

00:42:12.020 know encourage them to use ai as a learning tool try and do as much learning as you possibly can but

00:42:18.620 when we want to test you we're going to sit you down in front of three people who really know what

00:42:22.040 they're talking about and they're going to ask you questions you know like the old naval board

00:42:25.500 there's going to be no other way of doing it no yeah this is well what else can they do but

00:42:30.100 eventually they'll have something in your ear sort of okay well yeah and then you become a machine

00:42:35.660 yeah yeah yeah the thing has sort of become one i think it's a tremendous productivity enhancing tool

00:42:43.780 yeah fair enough you know i think about when i started here at lotus eaters in 2022

00:42:48.520 um in a week i could get through a brokernomics on a podcast and i was kept pretty busy now yes

00:42:56.440 i was newer then and i've i was learning my craft but now i can get through a brokernomics

00:43:02.440 two podcasts four dailies and a lads hour and yes there's a bit of learning that came in that

00:43:07.580 but a big part of it is definitely ai because i can do things like i mean i i i use it for every

00:43:14.120 brokernomics in the you know the amount of times i thought to myself um oh there was a report written

00:43:18.800 by some guy might have been at meryl's right um maybe called mark i think he was australian and he

00:43:25.240 made a point like this and if i tried to find that it would take forever and i agree with you like as a

00:43:30.400 reference finder it is really really useful but you can use it beyond that as well so i mean i i do

00:43:35.260 heavily i so i don't get it to write the episode but what i will do is i will write an outline of all the

00:43:40.200 things i want to cover the angle i'm coming at and then i'll put that in and i'll say okay if

00:43:46.620 somebody was going to criticize this how would they do so right and it will throw up things that i

00:43:51.400 hadn't thought of yeah that's an angle that is actually an interesting angle yeah yeah fair enough

00:43:55.860 and and other things i can do is um so i used to you know like before ai i'd sit and read two decent

00:44:03.400 sized reports a week on something but it's a lot of time because they're like 12 getting it

00:44:08.540 summarize things yeah i can i can now go through 10 a week easily because what i do is i put them

00:44:13.700 all in and i say what are the key points coming out of this and where in the report are they

00:44:17.780 mentioned and i look through i'm not interested in that not interested in that yeah i'm interested in

00:44:20.740 that and and so i can just narrow down on stuff so much faster than i ever used you know i found

00:44:26.720 ai really useful for is finding connections and things so um for example i've got like you know loads

00:44:33.060 of philosophy books i've got to read but i also have to explain how the philosophers dealt with one

00:44:37.160 another now that's actually really difficult to piece together and it takes a lot of time but i

00:44:41.640 can actually just ask the ai right okay did david hume ever send a letter to so and so did so and so

00:44:46.400 ever have a meeting with so and so and the it can give you a quite a detailed little map of who dealt

00:44:51.620 you are using it for your well i'm not using to write the thing obviously yeah but you're using it as a

00:44:57.100 tool yeah i should yeah but i'm using it as a reference finder yeah basically find me some information

00:45:01.700 that i need to know then which is fair and that's fine but that's not what these kids are doing no

00:45:06.780 but but the difference between you and them is the reason you're doing it is because you can then be

00:45:12.860 put in front of a camera or whatever a person yeah and i know what you need to be able to argue the

00:45:17.600 case but here's the thing here's the thing if if you get to a point where you aren't a master

00:45:26.120 of your craft yourself you can never tell when the ai makes a mistake yes and that that is a real

00:45:34.880 issue and that's a real real problem and i've had this a bunch of times as well where i'm like you

00:45:38.780 know chat gpt find me where uh russo said something about the general will or something and it will

00:45:44.720 come back with a bunch of references and then i will literally take those references go to like

00:45:48.440 you know internet archive or some you know online version of it and i will look through and i'll see

00:45:52.560 that passage has nothing to do with it right i'll go back and literally say why did you make this up

00:45:56.300 about oh yeah no i actually met this one and go check it and this is actually the correct reference

00:46:00.320 because it is just a really advanced probability generator and so yes it it will actually make

00:46:06.080 things up so so when when um firms are doing this they typically first of all run it on a much

00:46:11.780 um increased cycle version rather than just the quick because if it spits you out an answer in five

00:46:16.940 seconds it's never any good yeah so you can put it on a deep think mode and also you you for serious

00:46:21.340 stuff you kind of want to run it three times and then have and then you can even get it to check

00:46:25.260 itself against those three different versions to see what came out so you want to be careful with

00:46:28.780 it but as a speeding up tool for preparing stuff i'm not saying it doesn't have absolutely immense

00:46:33.280 absolutely does have uses so you know um i i think you know degrees should be embracing it they should

00:46:39.160 just be fundamentally changing how they test i think should be verbal presentations i think i think

00:46:42.640 that's the way because that's what you actually use in the real world workplace so but you know the

00:46:47.560 point is as this accountant a couple of you know that guy there is starting to figure out

00:46:55.160 ai is going to be an enormous deflationary shock because you can do so much more with so much less

00:47:02.860 so the need for the private sector to get more efficient at precisely the same time is getting

00:47:09.260 hammered by extra taxes yes and then the private and then the public sector has no need to become

00:47:15.360 more efficient because it gets more money extracted from the private sector which is getting it from

00:47:19.660 both ends yes you can see how this is not going to work you know this this is going to be a disaster

00:47:25.940 and do you think miss reeves understands this i i would suggest not actually um just uh i'm i'm not

00:47:33.200 an economist and i'm also retarded so uh basically what this means is that um far more will be done by far 0.83

00:47:39.740 fewer people in the private sector putting millions of people out of work um but also without a

00:47:44.860 corresponding like rise in new industries uh and therefore there's just gonna be nowhere for these

00:47:50.640 people to go is that correct well so how it should work is people um so people either embrace it fast

00:47:57.600 and they become significantly more efficient at what they're doing and they do more in which case

00:48:01.300 they're kept because if you're a firm if you're now getting a higher return on capital well you're just

00:48:06.620 going to do more of it so actually you should employ more people as long as they are individually at

00:48:12.000 more efficient which is why i'm saying everybody should really learn this stuff very fast and

00:48:15.480 students should be learning it and i'm trying to encourage my children to learn it you should do

00:48:18.380 that is the people who resist against it and they're going to have to end up in the public sector

00:48:22.520 because there's going to be no obligation to do any of this stuff um but yeah in terms of i mean

00:48:27.160 what have one of you asked is is rachel reese competent um i've not had a company wasn't exactly the

00:48:32.400 question but yeah i've not had a competent chancellor in my lifetime sorry in my adult

00:48:37.340 lifetime so when i was a kid i mean so first of all the best chancellor was probably gladstone

00:48:43.040 um going back a few there yeah um but after that you got jeffrey howe and nigel lawson

00:48:48.720 um through my childhood those guys were competent and some people try and argue that um

00:48:54.480 gordon brown was he was for the first four years uh because when he was following ken clark's plan

00:49:00.520 who was also reasonably good but i mean after that you know after i turned 18 i've not seen a

00:49:06.500 competent chancellor um sure about selling the gold but yes and um you know clearly yeah you know

00:49:13.640 rachel from accounts she doesn't understand the job if she was doing this 20 years ago before the 1.00

00:49:19.180 internet revolution she's struggling she's certainly not going to get what's coming next and it's not

00:49:23.640 just ai um i'll also mention this angle of it um tesla have now launched their driverless cars

00:49:31.260 um let's play this but let's turn that sound off okay if i record tell you what man the driverless

00:49:38.220 cars it's not they freak me out and i i'm not against them it's just that there's something weird

00:49:44.060 about it not being controlled by a human right yes to not have a driver in the driver's seat is weird

00:49:50.000 yes and it and it i i mean i'm absolutely convinced that in 20 or 30 years time it will

00:49:56.320 just be illegal to drive cars right all cars will be self-driven because the numbers will be in and

00:50:02.280 what the numbers will show is that it's literally gonna be like a thousand times more dangerous to

00:50:06.760 have a human behind the wheel than it is to have ai behind the wheel yeah right the number of casualties

00:50:11.440 caused on roads by ai will be in the double digits probably and the number from humans is probably in

00:50:18.440 the thousands or tens of thousands right so they're gonna literally be like you're not allowed

00:50:22.740 to drive if you want to drive you can go to a special racetrack sort of thing where you drive a

00:50:26.780 car well yes when we first had lifts you had a man with a with a dial that manually made it go up and

00:50:32.000 down yeah um and it freaked people out when they went and there was just buttons and i'm sure but would

00:50:37.580 you get in a lift where there's a man who could just do that and chop you in half i mean you wouldn't

00:50:40.880 well i'm not worried about him chopping me in half but like it'd be weird right you know but and i'm sure

00:50:46.580 for our kids or our kids kids they can be like what you had people in the cars driving the cars

00:50:51.500 yeah yeah that sounds unsafe yes like well it was i mean you know so back to my point about this being

00:50:57.220 a deflationary shock um being a being a driver is the largest profession worldwide for unskilled men

00:51:03.260 i bet yeah biggest biggest employee for unskilled men right and then this is coming now even if you

00:51:08.860 you know you ship a guy in across the southern border from guatemala and he and he lives in a

00:51:14.700 flat with three other guatemalans he still can't be as cheap as this because he eats and he sleeps 0.81

00:51:20.560 and this is code and it can drive 22 hours a day you know a couple of hours for charging

00:51:25.120 and also this is basically a one-time investment with very minimal

00:51:28.440 up yes right you know and this can run 24 hours a day well 22 you need a couple of hours of charging

00:51:33.920 but yeah but yeah but the the but it begins but he doesn't apart from that it doesn't sleep and

00:51:38.540 it can do it every single day he never takes a day off never gets a bereavement never gets ill

00:51:41.700 so basically this is all going to also going to put an end to grooming gangs

00:51:44.900 well i think i think we still import them we just no no no the taxi industry is key to the yes it

00:51:53.300 was it was a key part of it wasn't so yeah you know elon musk has saved those kids indirectly yeah

00:51:58.960 so you know as if as if the internet wasn't big enough we've got robotics and ai coming

00:52:04.520 and our tax system is just fundamentally incapable of solving this problem it is remarkable how good

00:52:11.620 this is yeah absolutely now now genuinely how to run how to run tax and spend in western economy

00:52:20.400 today it is a genuinely difficult problem and i'm not sitting here claiming that i've got the

00:52:25.560 perfect solution yeah all i'm saying is at least i understand what the problem is and i have absolutely

00:52:31.720 no confidence that she has figured out the internet yet no let alone what's about to hit

00:52:37.940 yeah so you know i'd like to give you you know somebody in the um in in the in the chat um

00:52:45.780 how was it rue the day i was asking if i could give a grapey or if i could give at least at least

00:52:50.780 some half sure the label won't be in power forever well yeah um or or you know while you're getting

00:52:58.200 poor all the people you hate will be getting poor as well i mean there's that i mean

00:53:01.040 i've read that's all i've got for you right um wow uh ryan says tessa last month unveiled the

00:53:08.480 unveiled the cyber cab that has no steering wheel okay and thing is this is just gonna be normal

00:53:13.160 yeah completely normal i received a call from ai asking me if i'd finance in the last five years

00:53:17.960 they're going to replace call centers sooner or later honestly that's good yeah exactly india

00:53:21.960 most affected but at least i'll be able to understand what i'm being cold called on uh a younger

00:53:26.980 relative of mine can't use chat gpt because they have to do all their work on a school

00:53:29.600 chromebook which has keylogger metrics and records the paper being written yay uh honestly it's the

00:53:33.720 it's either that or just have you know i say you know entirely written or um manually written

00:53:38.260 that young man with the ai thesis and graduation may have proved to be proven his own obsolescence

00:53:43.400 well that's the point any job he can do can be replaced by ai exactly exactly right uh we are no we

00:53:49.540 no longer have philosophers we have professors of philosophy and the only reason they have anything

00:53:53.400 to profess is because at some point someone somewhere dared to dream uh and this is the problem

00:53:57.780 of the institutionalization of these things uh probably the teachers are grading the ai generated

00:54:02.900 with ai yes they definitely will be yes it's just literally a time-saving device wow uh savvy lawyer

00:54:11.080 robert barnes who associates richard barris uh big data poll contacted by vp vance more than once

00:54:16.780 in the past week bottom line plan was mass bombing slash regime change really interesting and so what

00:54:22.280 trump decided to just swerve at the last minute or what pretty much yeah interesting so they they

00:54:27.400 would have sort of prepared these plans for him uh subject to approval at different stages and it

00:54:34.200 seems that he's decided that no but this this is why i'm telling you trump none of themotic politics

00:54:39.880 cannot be done with an advanced plan right because it is not rationally derivable from a series of

00:54:45.120 premises yes so if you know that if you hit x then y has to happen then you can plan two or three

00:54:49.820 steps ahead it is very much an instinct game it is all here oh yes very very much so it's not 40

00:54:56.360 chess trump just knows people yep that's what it is anyway so american women are asking where have 0.97

00:55:03.480 all the good men gone not just in fact not just the good men just where all the men gone right why

00:55:07.480 are we all just on our own in these bars in these restaurants and they are just sat there going well

00:55:12.900 look feminism won and we're the final product of feminism there are no men around how has this 1.00

00:55:17.860 happened or video games have got better and you got worse so and that's the end of that segment

00:55:23.700 thank you very much for watching that is literally it but i thought we'd go through it but no but that

00:55:29.940 is unironically the issue and but the thing is it's the lack of self-awareness yes that's the thing that

00:55:35.160 underpins it it's just like but but we got everything we wanted how did it have a cost is the question

00:55:40.580 that underpins it all and it's it's like yes well maybe you should have thought about this maybe you

00:55:45.780 know when they were saying you can have everything maybe you should be like oh wow that's a liar i'm

00:55:49.320 dealing with because the answer everything is either there are no wins there are trade-offs you

00:55:53.620 know um but uh but anyway before we begin go and check out firas's realpolitik uh show uh obviously

00:56:00.500 there's a lot going on in the world at the moment so this happens to be uh particularly timely and

00:56:06.540 relevant anyway so again these are not like small uh places that are publishing these this is the

00:56:14.680 wall street journal this is one of america's premier elite papers right and this is american

00:56:21.820 women are giving up on marriage oh are the women giving up i don't believe that i i can believe that 0.97

00:56:26.380 american women in their 20s are giving up no no no why are they giving up on marriage is it because 0.99

00:56:31.380 women don't want to get married no it's because they can't find men i don't even i don't even like 1.00

00:56:36.960 good men now but look at the look at the way it's framed major demographic shifts have put men and

00:56:40.900 women on divergent paths okay i love i love that this oh well the god has ordained it there will be a

00:56:47.460 divergence here it's not there wasn't an active attempt to make this happen the there is a fundamental

00:56:52.240 problem with this headline no uh major major shifts put on women on the same path well and that's what 1.00

00:57:00.360 led to the disaster divergent paths for um what they were supposed to be like they were meant to

00:57:05.940 converge but instead now they've you know gone in a different direction but look look at the framing

00:57:11.900 though that's left more women resigned to being single oh well the number what about the men are

00:57:17.060 the men not resigned to being single as well but uh but anyway so we'll go through this because this

00:57:21.780 just it's just remarkable right so daniel cox the director of the survey center of the american

00:57:29.380 enterprise institute conservative think tank uh says the numbers aren't netting out more women than 0.99

00:57:34.520 men are attending college buying houses and focusing on their friendship and careers over dating and

00:57:38.260 marriage uh and this um is just one of those things and so over half of women single women believe they

00:57:45.100 were just happier than their married counterparts in a 2024 survey uh and just over a third of surveyed

00:57:51.000 men said the same so most men don't think they're happier than married men but the women are starting 1.00

00:57:57.280 to think well maybe i am it's like okay but why the relentless propaganda but well no but yeah i mean

00:58:02.780 there is that but if that's the case what are we talking about yeah why are you sat there going

00:58:07.860 are you complaining about it exactly right uh they've got loads more data a 2022 survey showed that uh

00:58:13.700 single adults uh 34 percent of single women were looking for romance compared to 54 percent of single 0.70

00:58:18.460 men down from 38 61 percent okay maybe a lot of women are just dropping out of it um a rise in earning 1.00

00:58:25.320 power and a decline in the social stigma for being singled has allowed a single has allowed women to 1.00

00:58:29.860 be more choosy so cox uh they would rather be alone than with a man who holds them back it's like holds

00:58:35.300 them back from their careers right so this is feminism has successfully turned two-thirds of american 1.00

00:58:41.140 women into men so they put them on the same path and the result was fertility collapse social 1.00

00:58:47.400 disasters um and everybody being miserable but liberal women often have a weird perspective on this so 1.00

00:58:53.180 you know if they if they've got a degree but they're working in a coffee shop they could meet

00:58:59.220 a guy who's earning 100 grand a year as a plumber right they would look down on him and say you know

00:59:03.440 you're below my status yeah she's earning 30 grand a year yeah yeah because she's got a degree so so 1.00

00:59:09.040 the the numbers here that 60 something percent of women are are happy with this don't necessarily happy 0.97

00:59:15.420 with it tolerant of it whatever it is that doesn't match the numbers that we have on the use of

00:59:25.140 antidepressants by women well yeah there's something like half of liberal women are on medication 0.86

00:59:31.460 more so than that probably more so than that so you're not really that happy yeah you're not actually

00:59:39.420 being medicated to pretend that you're happy if you're desperate enough to go to see a psychiatrist

00:59:46.840 get the medication etc etc you're not that happy it's the big paradox of female happiness which over the 1.00

00:59:52.820 last 50 years in which they've got everything they profess to want happiness has tumbled it's decline

00:59:58.120 because actually being happy isn't being an atomized essentially a an atomized man well i i took from it that

01:00:06.440 you shouldn't give women what they want and then you make them happy but that's but the thing is 1.00

01:00:10.380 that's actually what the data are showing us but anyway as you can see here you've got a 29 year old

01:00:14.820 woman they're asking who's who's who always thought she'd have found her life partner by now 1.00

01:00:19.100 instead she's house hunting solo and considering having kids on her own like that is sad right that

01:00:25.820 is tragic so you can be like oh well you know 60 of women aren't looking for a husband it's like 0.99

01:00:29.540 okay but that that just means that they're losers right like this this is a loser woman 1.00

01:00:34.480 so she's like well i'm financially self-sufficient to do all these things myself okay so what i'm 0.98

01:00:39.920 financially self-sufficient enough to sit in a house and eat cheetos all day and play video games 1.00

01:00:44.820 and bang out the old youtube video if i wanted but that would make me a disgusting loser you are a loser 0.99

01:00:51.440 like i'm willing to accept being single versus settling for someone who isn't the right fit 0.99

01:00:56.180 why would anyone want to fit what you don't have a space in your life for anyone else you're just some

01:01:03.800 incel basically you are the female equivalent of an incel and so it's just like okay she sees her

01:01:09.800 plans for an independent future as making the best of a lousy situation i don't want to sit here and

01:01:13.720 saying i'm 100 happy but i feel happy just accepting my reality is mentally and emotionally a sense of

01:01:18.480 peace so she again she's probably taking antidepressants and she's just going yeah okay

01:01:22.360 well i'll never find a man it's like we need a term for that because incel works for men because

01:01:28.200 women control sexuality but men control cells offsell no no fan cells well no she's not even 0.98

01:01:33.840 an only fan but men control commitment and that's what they can't get is commitment so we need

01:01:37.560 something that combines commitment with something yeah um and they and this this really is the issue

01:01:43.100 like they have been given everything through the magic of feminism right yes they've been advanced 0.99

01:01:48.380 up the queer hierarchies they are i mean if you send uh there have been studies show that if you send 0.97

01:01:53.720 uh the same cv to companies with men's men's names or women's names they'll just be biased in favor

01:01:59.860 of the women's names because this is how the culture has gone yeah so it's right okay you've got an

01:02:04.380 environment that is just genuinely toxically against men being the breadwinner uh and so it's created

01:02:10.580 a generation of women who are just singletons and i think i might just become a single mum and get 1.00

01:02:15.780 sperm donor or something it's like you are mad if you think this is the this is what you were meant to 0.93

01:02:21.160 have yeah this is and the fact that you're here going well i'm not happy but i guess i'm just

01:02:26.220 gonna carry on it's like you could change you could you you don't she's 29 she could she still

01:02:31.800 has options exactly she still has time you know in 10 years time it's going to be even worse yes um

01:02:36.840 anyway so uh this and this is ah this is so fascinating right um go down a little bit more um

01:02:45.880 i don't i've just copied and pasted text out of this so i can't i can't remember whereabouts it is

01:02:52.800 in the thing um but anyway what was the gist of the point uh the the gist of the point is um

01:02:58.740 yeah there we go yeah the share of women who are 1840 who are single that is neither married nor

01:03:03.960 cohabiting partner was 54 51.4 percent in 2023 uh which is up from 2000 which was 41.8 wow right

01:03:12.100 a 2023 survey of college educated women found they blamed half half of them blamed them being single 0.97

01:03:18.000 largely on an ability inability to find someone who meets their expectations because women marry up 1.00

01:03:24.100 right so women have not developed the kind of culture required for them to find husbands right 1.00

01:03:29.520 or men you know i don't know i don't think a husband is the right term here because what

01:03:33.820 they've done is turn themselves into husbands and they're like okay and now i'm looking for a super

01:03:38.200 husband who's even better than me and their psychology doesn't really work for this because

01:03:42.720 for men if you can't get a partner you think okay i need to go to the gym i need to get a promotion i

01:03:47.020 need to i need to improve myself but that doesn't work this way around because they're not going to 0.94

01:03:51.660 think oh maybe i should be less of a bitch it's not even necessarily being a bitch a lot of these might 0.96

01:03:56.120 actually be quite nice but it's about it's about status right it's about status it's like oh i mean 0.98

01:04:00.380 i i've outstatused all of the men around me and unless i'm like some sort of giga babe who you know

01:04:07.980 looks incredible in a bikini and you know very you know i'm 22 and unless i'm that then the men who are

01:04:15.340 at my level or above well that's what they're going to find yes do they want a woman who is actually 1.00

01:04:20.680 challenging him for status or do they want arm candy right and i mean we can see who jeff

01:04:25.900 men want peace and calm right at the end of the day that that's that's a fundamental part

01:04:31.080 sure a stable life i asked ai what the female version of incel was and it just said oh you've

01:04:36.580 already got the word it's spinster oh yeah yeah fair point spinster yeah wow but apparently the

01:04:40.680 chinese have also got a word xing nu left over women yeah yeah um but no i think spinster is the 1.00

01:04:46.860 right one uh because these these women just cannot find a man who will commit to them 1.00

01:04:51.520 because their status is too high and so feminine the consequence of feminism raising the status of 1.00

01:04:57.760 women in the work environment well it's meant certainly their perceived status sure but like 1.00

01:05:02.840 but also economic status and educational status right so it's actually their concrete status

01:05:07.020 like the real status they have uh it's it's making them very well a liberal arts degree probably

01:05:12.380 doesn't have any actual value but they perceive it very highly but most of them won't have liberal

01:05:16.700 arts degrees most of them will have like um you know business management or something you know

01:05:21.680 like advertising marketing they have a job where they sit in meetings yeah and they send emails

01:05:25.820 right that's that's their job you know and i'm sure they do something but uh but they're going to be

01:05:31.060 getting 100k a year and the men are just like hey but i'm on 60 grand i'm a software engineer or

01:05:36.220 something you know like i can't compete because the economy has been rigged against me and the

01:05:40.940 the entire civilization has been rigged against giving men status 0.72

01:05:43.700 and this is what these women are starting to realize um so yeah they they say they they blame 1.00

01:05:49.800 their inability uh to find someone who meets their expectations showing that they haven't

01:05:54.480 changed their culture and their their expectations in alignment with the new changes in society that

01:05:59.840 have come about as in okay but i was going to marry some you know giga chad billionaire wasn't i

01:06:04.340 it's like yeah well i mean they're quite thin on the ground sorry uh in fact it's pretty much

01:06:08.540 jeff bezos that meets that criteria maybe mark zuckerberg he's a bit chad these days isn't he

01:06:13.220 i'm actually done for doing a lad's hour where we just get female naughty literature and just read 0.99

01:06:18.420 it i mean maybe one day but the but the point being is that they they they're just like well

01:06:24.460 i'm just not going to find someone who satisfies it it's like okay but you need to realign your

01:06:28.820 expectations you're the husband now right what what are you looking for in a husband do you want

01:06:33.900 someone to take care of the kids in a wife do you want something to take care of the kids look 1.00

01:06:37.160 off the house well then you don't want him to be the kind of guy who features in women's 1.00

01:06:41.720 literature right but if the kind of guy that features in women's literature is the only kind 1.00

01:06:45.520 of guy who gets it going for you because of the way that nature has made you then what you're living

01:06:50.800 in is a massively artificial bubble yes basically you're living in a fantasy you're living in a

01:06:55.480 fantasy and you're but it's also completely artificial that we've made this come about and so

01:07:00.420 you in 30 years time will have just self-selected yourself out of the gene pool and what we will

01:07:06.000 what we would be self-selecting for we'll be deliberately selecting for are those women who are like 1.00

01:07:10.920 i actually don't want to become a girl boss i'd actually like to be a housewife and okay it's

01:07:15.680 gonna there's gonna be a bottleneck there there's a bunch of guys are just being selected out a bunch

01:07:20.900 of women are being selected out but then on the other side of that yes they're gonna raise like 1.00

01:07:25.120 don't don't try to hope still exactly base trad world in 50 years is definitely a possibility

01:07:31.740 because of the things that they're doing but uh but anyway like there's there's more in this that i just

01:07:36.720 wanted to hammer a few more um let me see if i can find it it's a really long answer there we go

01:07:43.520 right so you've got uh katie here who's 30 and runs a leadership coaching startup uh out of new york 0.99

01:07:49.840 city and she's like maybe we're doing it wrong it's like can we have a quick look at katie is that

01:07:53.760 right uh is this katie she's perfectly normal looking reasonable yeah like there's no reason she 1.00

01:07:59.520 can't find a boyfriend right on her looks anyway right so why is she turning into a spinster but uh 1.00

01:08:05.880 anyway she she spent the first half of 2024 going on three or four dates a week with men she met on

01:08:10.660 apps which obviously is not great uh by the end of the year she'd ramp down the search calling it the

01:08:14.660 only thing you can do the only thing you can put 10 000 hours into it and end up right where you

01:08:18.340 started true uh many of the men katie met she said seemed either turned off by her ambition

01:08:23.560 weren't career oriented enough for her it's like okay but you don't want to be a wife 1.00

01:08:28.200 you're trying to be a husband and the men you're you're matching with so you know some sort of chad

01:08:35.000 guy who in six figures going oh he doesn't want to be my wife of course he doesn't want to be and

01:08:39.520 also you're you're 30 if he's a chad guy with six figures why isn't he picking somebody with a

01:08:45.040 beginning with a two yeah well that that's a another good question uh and so this i mean literally

01:08:50.860 she felt discouraged by just how many of her male friends similarly said that they expect their

01:08:55.280 future wives to prioritize their families over their jobs why does she think she should be 1.00

01:08:59.860 prioritizing her job what is what is in her mind well it's only pure feminism right um and in 30 years 1.00

01:09:05.900 time okay maybe she's still got her office cubicle oh yeah whereas her friends are going to have 0.99

01:09:10.500 grandchildren and kids yeah they're going to have family who's the winner yeah absolutely they're

01:09:16.320 going to have family barbecues they're going to have companionship um but for alicia jones not

01:09:22.540 having to depend on this there's another one further down here called alicia jones again they 1.00

01:09:27.160 they spoke to loads of these there we go there's alicia jones yeah not not a hideously unattractive 1.00

01:09:32.100 woman or anything um and uh she says that well not having anyone else to financially depend on or

01:09:39.940 split rent with is the worst part of being signal it's single especially with the threat of layoffs

01:09:44.820 it's just much more stressful being a single person it's like okay but look at your look at

01:09:50.960 your view right she says her last long-term relationship ended two years ago after conflicting

01:09:55.800 views of their shared future quote he wanted the white picket fence and me at home with the kids

01:10:00.440 well okay that would mean that you don't have to worry about being laid off right

01:10:04.380 that would the the the struggle wanted both ways they've been trained to wanted both ways to not

01:10:12.680 respect that this division between us is is is real feminism fundamentally is the idea that 1.00

01:10:19.580 the biological differences between men and women should not imply any social economic or political

01:10:25.660 differences correct that's what it boils down to and then you have the same feminists saying hold on a 1.00

01:10:32.240 second the biological differences really matter because we don't want these trans creatures running 1.00

01:10:36.780 around our changing rooms which is a perfectly understandable sentiment and then but you are still

01:10:41.840 choosing to have it both ways because if these biological differences are real they have

01:10:47.460 implications yes and and also this is purely from the woman's side i mean we're not talking about

01:10:52.160 any of the men who have had all of their potential opportunities stripped away from them yes all of these

01:10:57.300 men who because they can't gain any kind of status will never get a wife will never have kids will

01:11:01.820 never have all these things yes away from them right but anyway but things i i just find this

01:11:05.400 fascinating she's like uh it's just so stressful because of the being single because i'm worried about

01:11:09.220 layoffs but i don't want to be with my long-term partner because he wanted me to stay at home with

01:11:13.100 the kids it's like that you would have been fine and the reason she says is that his fat his salary

01:11:19.400 was uh her salary was 50 percent higher than his totally artificial do we think that her contribution to

01:11:25.940 the economy was you know the actual productive forces between her and her boyfriend was she producing 1.00

01:11:32.780 50 percent more i don't know yes i don't know but my guess would be whatever her job is it's

01:11:37.220 basically adult daycare to stop women from having children 100 right uh and so what i find really

01:11:44.040 fascinating about this is at the end it says she identifies politically as a moderate and thinks

01:11:49.320 couples with kids should split the household and child care responsibilities equally she's not a 0.99

01:11:53.440 political moderate she is a left-wing radical yes that is a radical left-wing position that that's

01:11:59.100 that's what must be said it must be said that all of the sort of modern feminist project is actually 1.00

01:12:05.580 deeply revolutionary anti-biology and anti-history and therefore anti-civilization and it's ruining

01:12:12.540 these women and it's ruining their lives they're not happy they they they can't get what they want and 1.00

01:12:17.020 they don't know why they can't get what they want and yet they're increasingly growing older and

01:12:21.160 the you know it's getting darker and colder you know there's there's no love in their future

01:12:25.560 it's like is that what you wanted ladies i mean i wouldn't mind if these people just self-selected 1.00

01:12:29.540 themselves out of the gene the only problem is is that i've got to pay for the boomers while we're 0.87

01:12:33.920 waiting for the it's not that man there's something tragic about it when these women hit their 40s and 0.92

01:12:38.560 their 50s and they realize that it's over and that that's it their job is all that they will have and

01:12:45.520 by then they probably have the job replaced by ai and then you're going to end up with a load of

01:12:50.640 single women with no attachments oh and i've known a bunch of women who get to their late 30s 1.00

01:12:55.440 thinking it's all about the job and then all of a sudden the biology kicks in and they and they

01:13:00.640 want instant marriage absolutely mental and the thing is a lot of these women will not be bad 1.00

01:13:04.900 people no that's this is done i'm not judging them yeah when they were growing up yes in school

01:13:11.020 they were propagandized with feminism and so now they're like well no obviously a man should do half

01:13:15.420 the chores and pay half the housework and i'll go and work and i'll do half the chores and half

01:13:19.300 like what why yeah that's a radical feminist position that's not moderate that is insane 1.00

01:13:25.320 but it seems normal because those are the those the waters they swim in exactly see the fish can't

01:13:29.740 see the water exactly and just and so this was another one i i think the i think the sorry i think

01:13:34.540 the only solution to these women is going to be nunneries yeah they're going to have to join 1.00

01:13:38.880 that's what nunneries were for orders that's literally what nunneries and monasteries were for

01:13:43.580 those people who well i mean like socially you know the social role they fulfilled is when women 1.00

01:13:49.820 couldn't find husbands or didn't want to have husbands and men who like were autistic they went 0.98

01:13:54.940 to the nunneries yeah so what are these women going to do but anyway so this is another one from the 1.00

01:14:00.000 other day from the new york times again these are not small insignificant papers that are publishing

01:14:04.820 these and this this woman these are not exactly conservative outlets exactly right these are exactly these

01:14:10.460 the these are the the places that were promoting feminism a decade ago yes and look where we are

01:14:16.120 now men where have you gone please come back and this woman she she said she's 54 and she tells

01:14:21.540 she's basically she keeps on having to go out on dates on her own right so she's taking herself out

01:14:26.500 to restaurants and she's looking around the restaurant and she says only two tables actually

01:14:30.640 seem to hold dates the rest were groups of women or women alone each one occupying her space with 1.00

01:14:35.580 quiet confidence no shrinking no waiting no apologizing it's like okay being like the man

01:14:40.260 they're the characteristics you want in a man self-assuredness yes the the the sort of presence

01:14:45.920 yes it's like okay well you've turned these women into men and they don't have dates and then she 0.79

01:14:50.160 laments she says i remember when part of heterosexual male culture involved showing up with a woman to

01:14:55.060 signal something status success desirability women were once signifiers of value even to other men 1.00

01:15:00.500 it wasn't always healthy but it meant that men had to show up and put in some effort

01:15:03.980 lamenting the chivalric status driven culture of men with their wives so yes he's just divorced

01:15:11.860 isn't she uh she is divorced yes that's i wonder what this woman's position on me too was at the time 1.00

01:15:17.000 when we when we were told that you're basically not allowed to make an approach sure but the i think it

01:15:22.520 goes beyond that though it goes back further than that so the these women have been transformed into men

01:15:28.000 and she's like god why aren't men turning up with us on their arms anymore it's like because you 0.76

01:15:32.980 you you gelded and bid the geldings be fruitful what you did is you took away men's ability to gain

01:15:38.420 status you took away their their the the pride the sort of thematic pride in it and the reason that

01:15:44.760 you'd have a beautiful woman on your arm so you can play the part of the beautiful woman and be you

01:15:48.640 know the center of attention well that's all taken away now you're the man so where's your beautiful

01:15:53.140 woman on your arm where's your you know your toy boy on your arm or something right you've your culture

01:15:57.420 hasn't adapted to it well and also those women who crave attention they've now got only fans yeah 1.00

01:16:04.240 and and like most normal women like you're not most but the the normal women who are actually like i

01:16:09.920 actually don't want this i don't want to be a government they're all married now right now all

01:16:14.260 the millennial women who are just normal they're all married and they're getting on with their lives 1.00

01:16:18.340 and they're quite happy and now we get to hear from the sort of you know it's it's kind of like the

01:16:22.160 you know the bomber effect where it's like you know the the the pump the bullet holes on the thing

01:16:26.860 we don't hear from those women who are happily married and with their kids and stuff like that 1.00

01:16:30.980 getting on with their lives and who are not lonely we only hear from the lonely ones you probably hear

01:16:35.080 from them in our comments but well yes yeah yeah we probably won't hear from them in the new york

01:16:39.180 times exactly right or in the wall street journal and uh and so yeah like i i've i found this

01:16:45.340 particular article from this from a lady who says look all my friends are still single in the 30s

01:16:52.100 they're hunting unicorns somewhere along the way a man stopped being just a man now he's supposed to be a

01:16:56.440 therapist your best friend your passionate lover the father of the year financial provider and

01:17:00.380 probably a mind reader too all wrapped up in one devastating handsome package and that's how my

01:17:04.620 wife got lucky she's gonna watch this like you um but so basically uh what she's saying is that

01:17:15.380 women's expectations of men are totally demented their status is too high and men are just and as the 0.99

01:17:22.420 other women were saying look they're just self-selecting out of this because there's 1.00

01:17:25.900 it's a it's a very difficult game to win uh and it's probably not the not worth the hassle and so

01:17:32.940 okay we've created a generation of spinsters and monks what are we going to do with them

01:17:38.860 what a tragedy yeah well it like this is it was inevitable that feminism was going to do this 1.00

01:17:45.760 yeah completely inevitable well the left had to remove themselves of the gene pool i mean it's just

01:17:49.840 exactly exactly it's going to take like sad because a lot of them are genuinely talented

01:17:53.400 there's there's something spiritually wrong with them yes and to be fair to the left even if they

01:17:57.720 do somehow get married they've still got abortion so that they've got multiple layers of defense to 0.99

01:18:02.820 make sure they don't make it into the next generation but it's it's the earning potential

01:18:06.060 i mean i've come to the point where women just shouldn't be out earning men it's just not fair to 0.95

01:18:10.080 the men like it's it's one of those things that it's just like oh well you can't say that no i'm

01:18:14.140 going to say that because it isn't fair to the men you know men men should be for their the status and

01:18:19.920 the dignity they have in society they should be the primary providers for the family which would

01:18:24.620 have an ancillary benefit of driving up female happiness exactly it's what's required to make 1.00

01:18:29.340 women happy it's what's required to make children well raised and well socialized and you also end up 1.00

01:18:35.740 when you have too many single women the women who choose to have children end up facing a lot of 1.00

01:18:42.100 difficulty because they don't have a proper social setting for them to function in yes uh that there

01:18:48.920 are all kinds of jokes about how women keep talking to each other and chatting to each other i was saying 0.87

01:18:54.400 this to my wife the other day when we study these terrorist groups the influence that we can never

01:18:59.100 understand is the influence of women because all of these wives and sisters and so on form their own 0.99

01:19:05.020 networks and that ends up affecting how the group leadership ends up being composed and what decisions are made

01:19:11.520 and they end up having in these highly segregated societies um enormous importance like in saudi arabia

01:19:20.400 you have universities named after somebody's favorite aunt because she did a great job of keeping the

01:19:26.360 family together yeah and had this massive influence as a matriarch and if you say one word against her 1.00

01:19:32.740 you're in the thing is everyone can think of someone in their own family like that if you're of sufficient age

01:19:38.460 exactly if you're you know part of the sort of well the boomers had very small families you know it's

01:19:44.700 the it's the the the aunts and uncles of the boomer generation i've got like i you know my on on both

01:19:51.300 sides it was six kids right both sides my parents so i've got loads of aunts and uncles right you know

01:19:56.200 and we have quite a few cousins but like my kids and you have a couple of aunts and uncles my parents

01:20:01.140 only had two kids yeah so this is why i had as many kids so good so you got lots of aunts and uncle 0.97

01:20:06.560 well done yeah well that was the you know i i that was the point yeah exactly the point and i think it's

01:20:11.040 important i think it's important yeah and um yeah so it's just i honestly it's i've just come to the

01:20:17.920 point where the teleologically men should have the the the primary role was provided for a family

01:20:24.760 and everything good about the family follows from that yes and you know we're all three married

01:20:30.520 patriarchs right so you know this you could say well you would say that it's like yeah but i get

01:20:35.100 to see the good that comes from it but i have a future yeah exactly i i but i can guarantee my wife

01:20:40.380 and children have exactly you know like i know they're happy because i make sure they've got everything

01:20:44.220 they need because i have children i have a future even if i wasn't happy yeah exactly if you've

01:20:49.200 self-selected out of the gene pool you don't have a future absolutely absolutely and i honestly

01:20:54.140 it'd be terrible not to you know pass on your father's name i think yeah uh hero sineke ban says

01:21:01.400 this female issue ties into the death of man documentary it does there is no spiritual female

01:21:07.660 magic left they are clockwork and see relationships as material and transactional that's entirely true

01:21:12.820 entirely true but this is this is just what feminism has done to them and you can't be terribly surprised 1.00

01:21:18.920 that they're you know incapable of understanding that they were the the the point of their lives

01:21:26.360 is not themselves right that's the thing that we have so so much difficulty dealing with these days

01:21:32.340 um atvar says yes trump swerved at the last minute aka typical trump found a way out to make while

01:21:38.680 making himself look bigly badass it's public info and can be seen free on the robber basket right okay

01:21:43.560 well that's the thing it's this is um this is what thematic politics is uh no carl dan is correct a

01:21:50.680 lot of these women are gassed up mids of no personality and children so they've never had 1.00

01:21:54.000 any real problems uh them thinking their status is higher as the symptom yeah sure i'm not saying

01:21:58.380 they're not you know i'm obviously that is the case uh some are yes yeah that's not the i mean i mean

01:22:03.800 might even the issue thing yeah but the it's not the issue the issue is how did they get gassed up

01:22:08.740 exactly and it was because they were given the adult daycare and told that they were better than men

01:22:12.880 and men are basically crappy and it's like no men are actually great and deserve like morally

01:22:18.060 deserve to be the breadwinners because when you say oh we're just gonna we're just gonna make women 1.00

01:22:23.700 into men and take that away from men it's like well why why did we deserve to have that taken away

01:22:27.040 actually we'd created a really great world and you were actually really safe in it and look where we

01:22:31.960 are now yep so trust me the patriarchy is gonna come back uh with a vengeance uh there are loads of

01:22:37.800 other comments but we're kind of running out of time so sorry uh but we'll go to the video comments

01:22:41.080 i was watching carl's video about progressives dying on the hill of abortion and it made me think

01:22:51.760 as carl said you know the risk and you make a choice and it's absurd when you think about how

01:22:55.020 stark the choice really is one day of pleasure in exchange for 18 years of responsibility

01:22:58.320 that's an insane deal of the consequences seen as unacceptable then i thought some more and i

01:23:02.480 realized it's a pattern thieves who break and enter then complain about being harmed people who draw on

01:23:06.100 the police and then complain about being shot people who stand in front of cars and then complain

01:23:09.200 about being run over it's all one big mindset ask an abortion activist if a store owner should be 1.00

01:23:13.720 allowed to shoot looters and you'll see that all of these opinions are held in common that is exactly 0.97

01:23:18.380 the correct point and i'm completely in favor of you shooting somebody who breaks into your house 0.97

01:23:23.360 yes and running over people who block the road i want to see more i mean that that less so because

01:23:27.580 okay it's a public thing you know i can understand the frustration with it but it is the same principle 0.99

01:23:33.120 that's at play but like you know when it comes to a man's house i'm gonna kill you 0.86

01:23:37.080 i think that picture is just incredible yeah i think that image is just incredible yeah i think

01:23:42.060 it's really good yeah there's a favor screenshot that samson because that's so good uh anyway let's

01:23:47.420 go to the next one a thorny problem tempts people to tackle it with their individual strengths edward

01:23:53.300 de bono warns this risk entrenching people in their own viewpoint better is to have them view from

01:23:58.500 each other's so he conceived the six hats each is color coded to highlight its thinking function

01:24:04.140 white is uncontaminated data red is unexplained emotion black is cool caution and criticism

01:24:10.360 yellow is positive appraisal green is fresh and lateral thinking and blue is organizing and thinking

01:24:16.060 about thinking judicious use of the hats can streamline meetings and crystallize decisions

01:24:20.980 yeah i think it's a good uh good summary of how we need to actually approach problems frank yes

01:24:28.540 um let's go to the next one you know with all these ai pack numbers being thrown around the most

01:24:34.220 interesting part to me is just how low they are here in canada 1.7 million dollars might get you a

01:24:39.280 crappy apartment on the lousy side of vancouver but down in the u.s i guess the cost of living is just

01:24:43.460 so low that'll buy you a whole senator not only we get his undying loyalty he'll also vote to open the

01:24:48.940 gates to the treasury and spend trillions of dollars just for the privilege of fighting on

01:24:52.700 your behalf that's one hell of a return on investment though inversely the iranian state

01:24:57.260 once tried to kill my grandpa so i hope they both lose so what's interesting is trump got loads of

01:25:04.400 money from apac absolutely loads um it's like 200 million or something like that i think it was

01:25:09.780 you got 100 million from uh miriam adelson yeah which was this sort of third biggest contributor

01:25:16.000 after a billionaire that didn't have time to research and musk so the fact that trump is like

01:25:20.580 angry at israel and not angry at iran is really funny it's hilarious it just goes showing how poorly

01:25:25.780 israel is playing their hand as well yes like not only have they ruined their own public sort of 0.87

01:25:30.100 perception well they're they're poisoning their relationships with their biggest patron now yes so

01:25:35.840 it's just like that's that's not smart but anyway let's go to the next one let's talk about the 0.98

01:25:40.640 fact that president trump incited an erection 0.94

01:25:43.460 his various cases of you know he's got inciting charges of inciting an erection 0.99

01:25:53.240 donald john donald john trump incited the erection 0.89

01:26:00.700 they didn't like donald trump they they said he participated in an erection 1.00

01:26:07.180 stupid sexy trump 1.00

01:26:12.300 that was quite good that one let's go to the next one 1.00

01:26:18.000 i'm pepper pig this is my little brother george this is mummy pig and this is daddy pig 0.98

01:26:30.420 i heard about this women women in islamic areas now keeping pet pigs for this reason 1.00

01:26:39.100 that's smart that's insane yeah yeah i mean we shouldn't have to be doing this but uh right

01:26:44.740 stelios has left us a comment i have three chud jack apology forms that need to be signed urgent

01:26:50.100 yes yes you're right yes nothing ever happens

01:26:55.220 and everyone doubts

01:26:56.420 we we did a segment on it last week and for us and i put up a spirited defense and have just been

01:27:03.780 completely we've been put it this way we've been a lot more obliterated than whatever always bet on

01:27:08.980 nothing man you know arizona desert rat says you have to admit many of the white house reporters are

01:27:16.900 really obnoxious well yeah i mean i was you know but he's he's cussing them out as she says oh it

01:27:22.020 was so funny that was beautiful but we we we we we had to skip it um darth may says amazing the

01:27:27.940 businessman and tv star are wiping the floor with lifelong politicians and member of the establishment

01:27:31.540 chump as a 4d chess master it's not even being a 4d chess master that's the thing

01:27:35.860 it's just knowing how the game is just reading the instincts exactly reading everybody else's 0.94

01:27:40.020 instincts and controlling his own and and playing his own when he should yeah payless son of your

01:27:44.180 cube says imagine being a panicking imagine not trusting the plan imagine thinking something would 0.99

01:27:48.980 happen and sophie points out conclusion if you think about having a dick measuring contest with 1.00

01:27:55.620 trump just don't you're gonna lose i mean he's the president of the united states you're not gonna 0.66

01:27:59.860 one up this my button is bigger than yours and it yeah exactly and it works exactly it's exactly

01:28:06.500 that um kevin says uh i believe ai rachel could do rachel reeves's job carl i used to have a tamagotchi

01:28:13.380 that could have done facial from a camera that's true that's that's absolutely true i would actually

01:28:18.100 pick a a non-immies um um comment because he's um they say i'm doing a data engineering course and

01:28:24.980 while there is a coursework element we have verbal exams they do not uh they do encourage to use ai

01:28:30.660 but not for writing i was surprised to be honest to see a good exam board adapt so far so so they are

01:28:35.620 starting to adapt but that is the way to go that's good yeah yeah yeah uh michael says oh my god these

01:28:40.340 articles on where have all the men gone my god it's the consequence of my own actions yes but the you've

01:28:47.220 got to remember that a lot of these women were just puppeteered into this they were indoctrinated 1.00

01:28:50.980 yeah they were there was mass indoctrination of all of society we all fell for it at some point

01:28:57.380 and here we are and when i was a kid it was relentless it was i mean this propaganda was

01:29:01.700 just yeah is the and and the thing is at the time it was all a qualitarian property now we call it

01:29:06.260 netflix well yeah but you know well men and women are both going to go to university they're both going

01:29:11.220 to enter the workforce they're both going to it's like why are we doing this this is not good actually and

01:29:15.940 now you know i'm just basically on the complete hyper tradition this point of everyone would be

01:29:21.140 happier if the men just went out to work and the women did the social things that women always used 0.99

01:29:25.540 to because all like um who's the who's the guy who wrote bowling alone who complained about the

01:29:29.780 collapse society i can't remember the name of the academic but he wrote a book called bowling

01:29:33.620 only saying look no one's doing social activities anymore and if you look back like a hundred years

01:29:37.620 ago it's because these things were all run by housewives yes housewives around the parties the social

01:29:42.740 events who gets invited to which event who gets invited to which wedding and it's the charity yes

01:29:48.580 like all of it local councils like everything that needs to actually be done to make things operate

01:29:54.580 it's all what housewives that were doing it and of course if they were sat at home so they have the 0.92

01:29:58.660 time to do it but if they're not housewives now then there's no point volunteering no one's going to 1.00

01:30:02.340 do anything and all that stuff was so important exactly it kept society functioning it made the world

01:30:07.300 worth living in yes right and now we look around and go oh wow you know the the you know the rivers

01:30:12.020 haven't been dredged well whose job was it to do that don't know you know whose job is it to organize

01:30:15.300 that whose job is it to make sure this happens and that happens and that happens like no one's now

01:30:19.380 you know everyone's at work so well done feminism uh anyway omar says uh even if true the implication

01:30:24.580 of men to intimidated is they must change to be less intimidated that is true but the self-appointed

01:30:29.700 girl boss doesn't have the agency or obligation to become less intimidating me me mentality yeah and 1.00

01:30:34.180 this this is the thing it's like look i'm not going to say that women can't have jobs or anything like 1.00

01:30:37.540 that you know if you want to go out and get a job get a job but just be aware that there is a

01:30:41.380 consequence to being the breadwinner and if you're not prepared to get a wife you're not going to

01:30:45.780 find a partner so anyway thank you so much for joining us folks if you want more from us go to

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 24, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1193

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