The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1195

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters, episode 1195 for Thursday the 26th of June 2025.

00:00:08.540 I'm your host Luke Kirk, joined today by Beau and Stephen.

00:00:12.000 Good morning.

00:00:12.720 And today we're going to be talking all about Palestine action, getting prescribed, getting what they deserve. 1.00

00:00:20.440 We're also going to talk about New York, kind of also getting what it deserved with a new Sadiq Khan, its own Sadiq Khan.

00:00:27.580 And then we're going to wrap up by talking about the Independent Task Force, looking at what's causing all of the social unrest and riots in the UK.

00:00:38.020 Yep, we are.

00:00:38.940 Yes.

00:00:39.440 Independence is clear.

00:00:40.620 Yes.

00:00:41.080 Just happens to be staffed by everyone in the establishment, that's all.

00:00:44.320 But other than that, it's independent.

00:00:45.940 Anyway, Beau, tell us about these terrorists.

00:00:49.700 Okay, yeah, well, yeah, we'll talk a little bit.

00:00:53.220 Well, it's his segment.

00:00:54.100 Yeah, we'll talk a little bit about Palestine action and the government's response and the whole world, or Britain at least, our response to it. 0.64

00:01:01.800 It's interesting how revealing it is, what people think about the topic, about the issue.

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00:01:40.840 All right, so, Palestine action.

00:01:43.560 What did they actually do?

00:01:45.860 What have they actually done?

00:01:47.660 Well, let's have a quick look.

00:01:50.080 This is what they did.

00:01:52.520 This is in RAF Briers Norton, the biggest RAF station in Britain, in Oxfordshire, southern England.

00:02:01.240 Spraying loads of red paint into the engine.

00:02:04.180 I want to turn the volume off.

00:02:07.800 Spraying loads of paint into the engine.

00:02:09.820 They're a refuelling plane, mid-air refuelling plane.

00:02:13.100 I think we've only got two of them.

00:02:14.460 They're quite rare.

00:02:15.060 We haven't got a giant fleet of them, and they're absolutely vital for sort of projecting power across the world.

00:02:25.620 So, it is part of our defence and foreign policy.

00:02:31.840 A little pink carrier bag there.

00:02:33.800 So, that was one of the things they did.

00:02:37.520 What were they on?

00:02:39.180 A little e-scooter thing.

00:02:40.560 E-scooter?

00:02:41.500 There's all the drugs involved in that.

00:02:42.800 So, before we go on to do any sort of analysis, just say what happened.

00:02:47.800 So, they crept onto RAF Briers Norton, onto the actual airstrip there, and did what they did.

00:02:55.540 And then left, got away without being caught or apprehended.

00:03:00.220 How?

00:03:00.700 That's the question, isn't it?

00:03:01.800 And it was only, I think, when they posted their own clip, because they're filming themselves here, obviously.

00:03:08.860 It was only when they posted it, the powers that be, the police, the RAF Briers Norton, the Home Office or whatever, Ministry of Defence, were like, oh, really?

00:03:17.340 It was you?

00:03:18.260 Yeah.

00:03:18.520 If you go down to Briers Norton today, you know, they didn't know.

00:03:23.300 So, do we know how many, you know, soldiers, men were staffing, were just on guard at the time?

00:03:29.800 Well, OK, well, I was going to leave that element till last.

00:03:32.740 Oh, OK.

00:03:33.140 No, no, no, let's talk about that now.

00:03:34.280 Let's talk about that now.

00:03:36.000 So, first of all, my first reaction when I heard about this was exactly that.

00:03:40.460 How is that possible?

00:03:41.860 Even really small RAF bases are heavily guarded, whenever I've seen them.

00:03:45.940 Perimeter fences, double perimeter fences, guys on sentry, the whole nine yards.

00:03:49.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:49.980 So, RAF Briers Norton, how have they done that?

00:03:53.900 It's a great question.

00:03:54.760 I don't know.

00:03:55.660 I'm not sure anyone really knows.

00:03:56.320 Is it because they've got an HR manager now in charge and they had to do all their diversity training that night?

00:04:00.980 Well, this is the person who's ultimately the commander of the station.

00:04:06.260 OK.

00:04:06.840 Yeah.

00:04:07.840 Still, after all this.

00:04:09.960 No further comment.

00:04:12.720 I mean, she's obviously not responsible personally for the perimeter, but the buck stops with her, I should do.

00:04:19.380 Well, she is.

00:04:20.920 She's in charge.

00:04:21.960 Yeah, right.

00:04:22.700 Where are the men, the women and the others that are guarding it?

00:04:28.220 Yeah.

00:04:28.600 You know.

00:04:28.860 It is crazy to me.

00:04:30.620 So, it's so crazy that it's suspicious.

00:04:33.300 Yeah.

00:04:34.080 Right?

00:04:34.600 Yeah.

00:04:35.800 Good point.

00:04:36.240 There's that angle to bear in mind.

00:04:38.100 They let them get on.

00:04:39.140 Did they?

00:04:39.640 I don't know.

00:04:40.780 But hang on a minute.

00:04:41.820 That's a possibility, isn't it?

00:04:43.560 A couple of things.

00:04:44.540 If they got on the e-scooters, which I think, you know, OK, they weren't too noisy in a big airport like that, that's silent at night.

00:04:52.300 But what if they'd had a couple of bombs?

00:04:54.240 Right, exactly, yeah.

00:04:54.960 What if they got something else that was in there?

00:04:56.800 What if they were just trying to transport something to another country?

00:04:59.820 What if they put a delayed reaction bomb and it blew up mid-air or something?

00:05:03.120 That's right.

00:05:03.760 It's worrying.

00:05:05.200 How would no one know if they've just gone away and then they post it a few days later, this is what we've done?

00:05:10.280 And let alone perimeters and sentries and pickets and all that sort of thing.

00:05:14.100 How is that bit of ground not got multiple cameras on it at all times and at least one person, if not many people, watching the CCTV at all times?

00:05:23.400 How is that not the case?

00:05:24.660 Yeah.

00:05:25.180 There's so many different just things that don't add up.

00:05:28.860 Yeah, I'm not enjoying this excuse other than that she should be fired now she's in charge. 1.00

00:05:33.360 Absolutely, yeah.

00:05:34.440 So just quickly to finish up on the point of, you know, it's suspicious whether they're allowed in or whatever.

00:05:38.960 You know, is this a false flag?

00:05:40.780 One possibility is that these are just straight up Palestine action dudes.

00:05:47.320 Yeah.

00:05:47.500 The second is that maybe Palestine action has been infiltrated by another...

00:05:55.120 MI5, special branch, one of our own mob. 0.87

00:05:58.080 Well, there's a couple of different angles I thought of.

00:06:00.400 One is that they could be Jewish or pro-Zionist and their ultimate aim was to get Palestine action prescribed.

00:06:08.580 Or, not even 4D, just 5D chess, actually like British MI5 or whatever.

00:06:17.120 And they've...

00:06:17.940 But then it gets quite murky at that point.

00:06:20.580 Like, so what was their ultimate aim?

00:06:23.640 Well, what happened to Palestine action group?

00:06:25.740 That's the ultimate aim.

00:06:26.600 To get them prescribed still.

00:06:28.080 Yeah.

00:06:28.520 All right.

00:06:29.240 Not to draw out nativists' ire.

00:06:32.760 No.

00:06:33.220 No.

00:06:33.560 Just get them prescribed.

00:06:34.740 Possibly.

00:06:35.300 I mean, obviously I don't know.

00:06:37.580 I've got no special insight into the inner work, the inner sanctums of Palestine action.

00:06:42.340 Has anyone interviewed the two bikists yet? 1.00

00:06:44.820 Not that I'm aware of.

00:06:46.280 Not that I'm aware of.

00:06:48.220 Anyone announce who they are?

00:06:49.560 Yeah, I think so.

00:06:50.640 Yeah.

00:06:50.940 I haven't got...

00:06:51.900 I haven't...

00:06:52.500 Yeah, I think they are.

00:06:53.680 We're now acting like proper journalists.

00:06:55.360 You know that, don't we?

00:06:58.080 So, but also, another thing they did, and the damage, I've seen various numbers thrown

00:07:08.460 around.

00:07:08.920 One was 15 million pounds worth of damage.

00:07:11.180 Yeah.

00:07:11.320 Someone else said it was 50 million.

00:07:13.040 Whatever it is, it's multiple millions worth of damage.

00:07:15.080 Yeah.

00:07:15.300 So, they've probably got to replace that entire turbine, I would have thought.

00:07:19.140 Okay.

00:07:19.460 And so, one thing to say is, okay, on one end of the spectrum, to be as nice to them as

00:07:25.380 possible, not that I'm that way inclined, is that it's just criminal damage.

00:07:31.900 Very, very large criminal damage.

00:07:33.880 Yeah.

00:07:34.280 But it's no more than criminal damage.

00:07:36.220 On the other end of the spectrum, you could say it's sedition, treason.

00:07:41.640 Yeah.

00:07:42.680 It's among the worst crimes.

00:07:44.260 You're actually messing with military assets.

00:07:47.200 I mean, that's pretty bad.

00:07:48.280 At minimum, it's also trespassing as well.

00:07:50.620 At minimum, yeah.

00:07:51.580 Yeah.

00:07:52.160 I mean, this is the sort of thing...

00:07:53.580 I don't want to be too hyperbolic about it.

00:07:55.960 This is the sort of thing special forces would do.

00:07:57.580 You go to an enemy air base, infiltrate it late at night, and ruin their aircraft while

00:08:03.000 they're still on the ground.

00:08:04.000 That's a classic special forces.

00:08:05.660 Special forces e-scooter division.

00:08:07.900 With a pink carrier bag.

00:08:08.880 Yeah, just seeing Banksy getting down onto all the Iranian planes and put a picture of

00:08:14.020 a muller with freedom written across his chest.

00:08:17.760 That'd upset them more.

00:08:19.460 Another thing they did, though, was...

00:08:22.320 They did...

00:08:22.840 I'll turn the volume off on that, but...

00:08:25.560 Let's play this, because they did some other criminal things.

00:08:29.240 Actually, let's hear the sound.

00:08:31.500 Samsung, can you put the sound on it?

00:08:32.620 Just running amok.

00:08:49.360 Anyway, you get the point.

00:08:50.720 They're running around that facility, which was...

00:08:52.760 Apparently, they made this company, whatever they were, they were involved in making components

00:08:58.140 for Israelis, or something along those lines, something that was anti-Palestine, anti-Gaza.

00:09:04.440 But they went in there and doing, again, on one end of the spectrum, just criminal damage.

00:09:08.440 On the other end of the spectrum, you know, it's an affront to the very rule of law itself.

00:09:13.400 You can't go around doing that.

00:09:15.000 No, you can't.

00:09:15.480 You can't. 1.00

00:09:16.280 And nor can you put videos like that with really stupid music on it. 1.00

00:09:21.600 That's telling, isn't it? 0.99

00:09:23.160 I mean, that's it.

00:09:24.440 You know, it's giving the game away, isn't it?

00:09:26.380 My personal opinion is that these are just fifth columnists.

00:09:29.680 Yeah.

00:09:30.000 I would go so far as to call them terroristic.

00:09:34.620 I mean, obviously, they're not killing anyone.

00:09:37.200 No, they're not.

00:09:38.380 And they're not bombing children in a pop concert.

00:09:42.360 Right.

00:09:42.700 I give it that.

00:09:43.600 But they are acting like a fifth column, and they also have no musical taste.

00:09:46.960 I think even drum and bass would probably have been a little bit better with the smashing things up there.

00:09:51.780 You know, maybe their friends in Brixton would have been saying that's culturally not acceptable.

00:09:57.060 You're stealing the culture.

00:09:58.640 But at the end of the day, these people need to be dealt with when they're doing proper criminal actions like that.

00:10:04.140 Any way you cut it, it's certainly criminal, isn't it?

00:10:06.240 Without a doubt.

00:10:07.060 Without a doubt.

00:10:08.160 You know, at the higher end of the level.

00:10:09.600 Yeah, right.

00:10:10.660 But I do take the point, though, you're drawing that sedition, that moving across to the terrorism element,

00:10:16.040 when you're destroying the infrastructure that's due to protect our nation.

00:10:20.520 If it was the IRA doing it, we'd certainly be saying that's terrorism.

00:10:25.560 So they're very close to the line, if not already, across that line.

00:10:29.560 Yeah.

00:10:29.840 I mean, that's sort of...

00:10:30.740 It's a difficult one, though.

00:10:31.460 So there is sort of...

00:10:32.440 We've got different things, aren't we?

00:10:33.440 There is a grey area around what is the exact definition of terrorism.

00:10:37.940 Because us on the right side of the aisle, we get accused of being right-wing extremists or even terrorists for...

00:10:44.820 Absolutely.

00:10:45.140 Even thought crimes, isn't it?

00:10:47.620 So it is sort of a grey area.

00:10:51.420 Again, it's non-violent in terms of sort of human violence, human-on-human violence.

00:10:57.240 But it's highly, highly criminal stuff.

00:11:00.680 It is.

00:11:00.900 In my opinion, I mean...

00:11:02.300 It is, and I think the probably one reason why I think they can get away with just what they might regard as bland criminal damage

00:11:10.260 is because they've seen any time an organisation that's doing criminal damage,

00:11:14.800 they're now being let off by the courts, in effect.

00:11:17.040 Even those when they got sentenced to prison for Just Stop Oil,

00:11:22.340 they were then released afterwards saying that they shouldn't have gone to prison.

00:11:26.320 So maybe they've got that in their calculations.

00:11:29.140 A lot of institutional sympathy for things like this.

00:11:33.000 Yeah, quite possibly.

00:11:34.000 So security reasons like yourself should be properly addressed to it?

00:11:38.100 I just feel like going on to an army, RF Bryce-Naughton, and damaging military assets,

00:11:44.800 it's about as seditious as you can get without hurting people.

00:11:50.000 I mean, I don't know the rules on bases like that, but weren't they also taking their lives in their hands?

00:11:56.600 What if someone had shot them?

00:11:58.260 Possibly, yeah.

00:11:59.220 What if they'd opened fire, thinking that they were some sort of Iranian terrorist?

00:12:04.580 You know, a Russian terrorist or Chinese terrorist, or just terrorists from Brixton?

00:12:08.840 It's extremely brazen.

00:12:09.960 I don't know why I'm keeping saying Brixton.

00:12:11.380 Brixton, Brixton, it'll get me into trouble now.

00:12:13.340 They have a reputation, don't they?

00:12:15.060 It's extremely brazen, isn't it, to attempt that Bryce-Naughton op?

00:12:20.220 Oh, yeah.

00:12:21.060 It's very, very brazen.

00:12:22.400 I mean, as I say, it's in the category of a special forces thing.

00:12:26.840 It's sort of...

00:12:27.340 How'd they get away with it?

00:12:28.440 With no one noticing until they posted it?

00:12:30.820 It's embarrassing.

00:12:31.580 I'm still stunned by that.

00:12:32.580 It's embarrassing.

00:12:33.280 I'm still stunned by that.

00:12:33.780 I'm highly embarrassed by that.

00:12:35.300 Yeah, yeah, I am.

00:12:36.000 As an Englishman.

00:12:37.620 Right?

00:12:38.180 It's like, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

00:12:39.940 Yeah, well, we get one of the most secure nations in the world.

00:12:42.700 And what does that signal to, you know, outside adversaries?

00:12:46.520 Yeah.

00:12:47.020 That's how easy it is to break into our air bases.

00:12:49.880 If a couple of jabronis on an e-scooter can do that...

00:12:54.620 I've got a minute, weren't they Deliveroo?

00:12:55.700 What if they were?

00:12:56.820 Yeah.

00:12:57.980 Just got a channel migrants giving a Deliveroo and they got it wrong. 0.99

00:13:01.120 Well, if there were an actual sort of military trained sleeper cell that did something similar

00:13:10.300 and they could have just bombed all...

00:13:13.720 They could have blown up all the aeroplanes that evening, couldn't they?

00:13:16.320 Fair point.

00:13:16.680 That is a fair, dangerous point that it could have done.

00:13:19.480 Okay, so government response.

00:13:20.920 Our Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, Mrs. Balls, has come out and said, Ms. Balls, has come

00:13:30.320 out and said that she wants to, or they're going to, apparently, prescribe them, ban them. 0.99

00:13:36.080 Right.

00:13:37.440 Now, I'm all for that.

00:13:40.580 Yeah, ban them, yeah.

00:13:41.780 Yeah?

00:13:42.360 Yeah, this is a fifth column in our mix.

00:13:45.060 Okay.

00:13:45.460 It's an enemy inside the gates.

00:13:47.820 Yeah.

00:13:48.120 Ban them, please, yes.

00:13:49.200 Now, it's revealing how different people feel about that because there are all sorts of

00:13:57.200 arguments of, you know, that's authoritarian.

00:13:59.180 If they can do it to them, they can do it to us.

00:14:01.140 They already do that sort of thing.

00:14:04.700 Well, our discussion pre-show is my initial reaction to banning any organisation is something

00:14:10.420 that we on the right should be very careful about, assessing and agreeing to, only because

00:14:14.820 if they're willing to do that to the left, they're going to treat us even worse and look

00:14:20.940 to ways that they can ban us, just in a way that they can use the law to enhance sentences,

00:14:26.480 for example, or restrict you from being on channels or close you down.

00:14:30.460 So, my initial gut reaction is, don't ban, find a way of some other strong way of sending

00:14:37.780 out a message that they can't act in that way.

00:14:41.060 The key point here is whether drawing that line that you've put is, are they terrorists?

00:14:47.340 And you could be, I'm beginning to think differently about whether they are.

00:14:50.760 You're putting a point across to me that's making my mind move towards the sedition element.

00:14:56.080 Well, if I may, I was just going to say that I think that, you know, implicit in the name

00:15:01.440 is obviously the cause that they, you know, care about.

00:15:04.940 And, you know, from my point of view, the terroristic aspect of this is just the sabotaging

00:15:10.660 of Britain and its means to fight, right?

00:15:13.160 It's not Britain's actual view on foreign policy, right?

00:15:17.540 Because that doesn't define your identity, but certainly, yeah, breaking into a military

00:15:23.460 base and hampering Britain's ability to fight, should it need to, that is, you know, and having

00:15:31.900 that political input, that is where the terroristic aspect comes from.

00:15:36.100 It's a very great word, sabotage.

00:15:38.320 Yeah.

00:15:38.860 But let's be fair, military-grade sabotage.

00:15:42.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:15:42.500 I think that's where you're drawing me into the fact that I think it's the military-grade

00:15:46.800 sabotage of something that actually is used to protect us, not the crossing of the fence

00:15:52.220 in itself, not about being ridiculously showing us up and embarrassing us for not having any

00:15:57.400 security, but the military-grade denouement, I think, is really something that could be

00:16:02.300 that.

00:16:02.600 What is she saying then?

00:16:04.300 What is she, what is she, where is she going with this?

00:16:06.840 Yeah, well, apparently they are, I think, in the next day or two.

00:16:10.020 Right.

00:16:10.440 They're going to get prescribed.

00:16:11.640 That's what all the, that's what all the articles are saying.

00:16:14.580 I think as of right now, as of recording, they're still not prescribed, but they're

00:16:19.340 going to be in a day or two.

00:16:21.860 Certainly, Sir Keir's government took a dim view of it, although it's not that strong.

00:16:28.900 I mean, he did come out and condemn it and say, this is unacceptable, blah, blah, blah.

00:16:32.000 Okay.

00:16:32.820 But his rhetoric was much stronger against the Southport rioters.

00:16:36.100 You know, remember when he said, he looked into the camera, I guarantee you, you will

00:16:39.380 regret this.

00:16:40.320 All that stuff.

00:16:40.940 He didn't say, he wasn't that strong.

00:16:42.580 No.

00:16:42.900 Ah, okay.

00:16:44.120 So his two-tier nature is coming back out.

00:16:46.600 But still, it looks like they are, you know, going to be prescribed.

00:16:50.900 So, I mean, I'm all, I'm all for it.

00:16:53.360 Because it, as you say, it's a slippery slope, thin end of the wedge.

00:16:57.420 If they prescribe them, they'll go on to prescribe others, including us.

00:17:01.060 But it does depend what you've done.

00:17:03.940 Yeah.

00:17:04.540 Right.

00:17:04.940 So us, or New Culture Forum, say, or even Patriotic Alternative, they're not going around

00:17:11.740 doing military-grade sabotage.

00:17:13.240 We're not actually committing any crimes.

00:17:14.920 No.

00:17:15.460 So, you know, let's make a distinction.

00:17:19.580 But I might come into that when we do my piece.

00:17:21.760 Let's park that, because I think what you're saying there is a very interesting element of

00:17:25.680 how they might try and find ways to get us.

00:17:30.300 Sure.

00:17:31.220 But didn't...

00:17:31.920 But that would be a worry anyway, wouldn't it?

00:17:33.500 Yeah.

00:17:33.940 Whether these guys get prescribed or not, that would still be the case, wouldn't it?

00:17:36.440 Oh, absolutely.

00:17:37.400 I'm always worried about that.

00:17:38.720 And the other aspect about it is just, correct me if I'm wrong, did Keir Starmer defend a group

00:17:45.620 of people that went on to a military base?

00:17:48.880 Maybe the audience know that.

00:17:50.640 Did he?

00:17:51.020 Did he defend them for...

00:17:53.300 What was this, what you talk about specifically?

00:17:54.520 Keir Starmer, when he was a lawyer, did he not defend the actions of a group of people

00:17:59.260 that did something similar on a base?

00:18:02.640 I'm trying to...

00:18:03.020 And whether this is just something that just sprung to my mind, but I'm certainly did defend

00:18:07.280 somebody like that.

00:18:08.360 I don't know about that.

00:18:09.060 Maybe our audience can pick that up for us.

00:18:13.400 It sounds like the sort of thing he would do, doesn't it?

00:18:16.800 Certainly.

00:18:17.460 Isn't he therefore on a real slippery slope to, you know, ban these people when he acted

00:18:22.040 for them in courts last time?

00:18:23.240 Nice one.

00:18:26.040 I mean, you do wear a different hat when you're a prosecutor or even the head of the CPS or

00:18:29.820 whether you're the head of government.

00:18:32.380 Yeah.

00:18:32.780 I'm not trying to play defence of Keir Starmer, but still.

00:18:38.020 Yeah, I'm happy that they would be banned.

00:18:41.780 Whether you want to say they are a full-blown terror group or whatever.

00:18:46.240 Still, they're running around ignoring the rule of law at a military grade.

00:18:52.820 You can't have that.

00:18:53.620 You can't have...

00:18:54.080 We can't have that.

00:18:55.240 The other interesting aspect is the terror element.

00:18:58.040 I mean, their argument, I'm assuming, is that they're not causing terror to any individual.

00:19:04.600 But I'm trying to work now, remember, again, a terrorist act.

00:19:08.700 I don't think you need to actually have some kind of fear of individuals, do you?

00:19:12.840 It's not like, you know, it's a terrorist act when you're being attacked by an individual

00:19:16.400 on the street.

00:19:17.080 But I think the extension of that is something different.

00:19:19.200 Isn't it the preparation also of activities that could lead to terror?

00:19:25.680 They've prosecuted, not that I'm happy with this or condoning this, but they prosecute

00:19:28.980 people under anti-terror laws for all sorts of stuff, right?

00:19:32.580 Right.

00:19:32.760 All sorts of stuff.

00:19:33.880 If you're just being a bit of a nuisance on the street, the police will detain you under

00:19:37.780 anti-terrorism laws.

00:19:38.780 Yeah.

00:19:39.780 So, again, not that I'm happy about that.

00:19:42.680 No, no, no.

00:19:43.700 Let's be clear, but that is, yeah, the police and the state already use these laws way beyond

00:19:53.120 their original purpose.

00:19:54.480 Which is where I come into, is I'm happy to see action taken against Palestinian action 1.00

00:19:59.500 or Palestine action.

00:20:01.760 But when they're starting extending the terrorist act, I do get a little bit worried about how

00:20:06.760 you're raising some early points.

00:20:09.420 If they're already using it on legitimate individuals for just protest.

00:20:13.700 our concern is there for where we are in our arguments.

00:20:17.220 Because at the end of the day, we're right.

00:20:18.780 They're wrong.

00:20:19.420 But, I mean, you know, not that I'm, you know, being a joke, but I am.

00:20:24.400 I mean, I've seen body cam or people with their phone just in the street.

00:20:27.740 And they're basically being a bit of a nuisance one way or another, whether legitimately or

00:20:32.020 not, to the policemen.

00:20:34.000 There we go.

00:20:35.540 Who sabotaged military aircraft.

00:20:38.480 Way back.

00:20:39.200 Don't know where I dragged that one out of.

00:20:40.500 Yeah, good memory there.

00:20:41.520 Good memory, yeah.

00:20:42.380 20 plus years ago.

00:20:44.180 Yeah, it is a long time.

00:20:44.840 Wow, okay.

00:20:45.580 It is a long time ago.

00:20:46.860 I remember.

00:20:47.220 He was in Doughty Street Chambers, I think, at the time.

00:20:51.780 So, the Fairford Five, that's who it was.

00:20:55.820 2003.

00:20:57.020 I mean, Fairford.

00:20:58.300 Wow.

00:20:58.720 And did they, I think they crossed into Fairford's airbase as well.

00:21:02.980 So, this creates a kind of, like, interesting issue for him, you know, because it's, I would

00:21:10.300 be on the attack line with this.

00:21:11.900 I mean, call me old-fashioned, but I feel like anyone that goes in a military zone where

00:21:20.180 you're not, where normal civilians aren't meant to go, that's quite a bad crime.

00:21:23.180 That's like, for me, it's levels above normal trespassing.

00:21:26.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:27.460 I mean, it's one thing to put illegal migrants in there, it's another thing for an ordinary 1.00

00:21:31.860 member of the public.

00:21:32.980 That's right, of course, we're not allowed to put them in, because that would be awful.

00:21:36.460 So, I did have another link where it showed that they've got, you can donate money to

00:21:42.860 them.

00:21:42.980 Oh, is that?

00:21:43.620 For their, for their, for their defence.

00:21:46.180 Oh, yeah.

00:21:46.440 Okay.

00:21:47.940 Oh, yeah, well, someone's saying, apparently the Home Office itself is saying that there's

00:21:51.640 an Iran, or an Iranian link to this group.

00:21:56.360 Okay.

00:21:56.500 Whether that's true or not, because other people, there's other articles, other people

00:21:59.840 saying, that's just not true, that's a misinformation, disinformation thing.

00:22:03.140 Okay.

00:22:03.500 That's the Home Office just, you know, coming out with liars, but they, they're saying that

00:22:08.440 is the case.

00:22:10.900 Yeah, face it, funded by Iran. 0.85

00:22:14.300 Okay.

00:22:15.980 There was, and then the protest on Monday, in Whitehall there, you can see that's just

00:22:20.000 outside down the street, I believe, certainly Whitehall, isn't it, or Trafalgar Square.

00:22:24.480 A few people were arrested, like seven or 10 or 13 people were arrested at that, so it

00:22:30.160 wasn't peaceful.

00:22:31.180 Well, if you look at the police there, again, not dressed in black, not got helmets on, not

00:22:38.380 got stun guns, not got batons, all very peaceable towards them in that way.

00:22:43.580 Yeah, we're on a line, you know, you'd have to expect them to get down on one knee and

00:22:47.140 kneel with them.

00:22:47.800 In that kind of performance, if it was, you know, a march for England or a protest against

00:22:54.700 mass immigration, I can guarantee that police and the way that they're dressed and the approach

00:23:00.980 with them, they'd have horses out there.

00:23:03.140 The mounted police, the whole nine yards.

00:23:07.500 Yep, certainly would.

00:23:10.160 Some MPs are still coming out in support of it.

00:23:12.260 Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn, of course.

00:23:14.520 Yeah.

00:23:15.460 Of course they are.

00:23:16.780 Of course they're in support of domestic, the domestic fifth column. 0.98

00:23:21.020 Yeah.

00:23:21.340 Of course they are.

00:23:22.060 Why not be?

00:23:22.700 The thing is, as well, just to say about people like Abbott and Corbyn, right, they'll dress

00:23:28.580 this up and masquerade it as, well, you know, it's just, yeah, some of them might have gone

00:23:33.380 onto an airbase, but you can't condemn all of them, you know, like that.

00:23:37.060 They're really just peaceful protesters.

00:23:39.200 But you know, if these people, if Corbyn was prime minister, he will crack down on right-wing

00:23:45.780 people for doing far less egregious things, right?

00:23:49.840 So it's not the principle of it.

00:23:51.520 It's just friend-enemy distinction.

00:23:54.480 That's right, and it's a very clear point, because when we looked at Southport, which

00:23:57.360 we'll look again briefly later on, did they distinguish, until much later, all the people

00:24:04.360 that were in the kind of protests, no, we were all far right, xenophobes and racists at

00:24:10.960 the time of the riots, and afterwards, no, there were some decent people campaigning.

00:24:15.220 That came later.

00:24:15.980 The first initial reaction of this lot would be, to anyone on the right, is that they're 0.97

00:24:20.840 evil, xenophobe, racists, locked them all up. 0.93

00:24:23.660 And it wouldn't be the distinction he's drawing out. 0.99

00:24:26.000 It's a good point.

00:24:27.000 Well, there's been very few enemies of Britain that Corbyn hasn't been in favour of, or advocated

00:24:34.240 for.

00:24:34.660 He's still got time.

00:24:34.680 His entire career, very few.

00:24:39.340 Zahra Sultana said, we are all Palestine action.

00:24:43.180 Are we?

00:24:43.920 No.

00:24:44.140 Are we, Zahra?

00:24:47.540 Are we, though?

00:24:48.580 I don't know.

00:24:49.520 I don't even know what the symbol is to be with them in one.

00:24:53.500 I don't know.

00:24:54.940 I don't even move my body in a little bit, just in case that we are all Palestinian action.

00:25:00.300 Turned off replies, though.

00:25:01.420 Of course.

00:25:01.840 Oh, yeah.

00:25:02.640 Even her own constituents.

00:25:03.880 We're all Palestine.

00:25:05.140 And to show our solidarity, I'm blocking any comments.

00:25:08.460 Yeah.

00:25:09.160 Yeah.

00:25:09.620 We're all in unity.

00:25:09.960 Well, if we're all Palestine, surely it'd just be a sea of agreement and praise, Zahra.

00:25:14.820 Yeah.

00:25:15.720 Oh, Novara Media.

00:25:16.440 Again, it is telling how people fall down on one side or the other on this issue.

00:25:23.060 The lefties, Novara Media here, for example, they've got their knickers in a twist all about

00:25:29.620 it.

00:25:30.480 They were just saying, it's just non-violent direct action.

00:25:35.920 That's all it is.

00:25:36.600 It's certainly not terrorism.

00:25:39.000 Well, I think the swinging of that hammer or whatever into that piece of machinery,

00:25:43.960 that was not really non-violent.

00:25:45.940 That's not not non-violent.

00:25:47.240 That's not sitting down and singing, come by Palestine on the floor and cross legs. 0.99

00:25:55.060 I mean, it's clearly non-violent direct action, not terrorism.

00:26:00.540 Okay, bro.

00:26:01.160 Any normal definition of the word.

00:26:03.440 I completely agree with you, Michael, but I'm...

00:26:05.100 Coucher tea.

00:26:05.520 Coucher tea.

00:26:05.880 Coucher tea.

00:26:08.200 Yeah.

00:26:09.500 So, it's just a little bit of criminal damage, bro.

00:26:14.240 Yeah.

00:26:15.200 Just like theft from a shop.

00:26:17.120 You know, taking three bags of theft, it's just enough for dinner.

00:26:20.380 Yeah.

00:26:20.820 It's just...

00:26:21.700 It's just...

00:26:22.980 People...

00:26:23.720 I mean, they'll say exactly the same about us or about me.

00:26:26.720 Of course you think it's terrorism.

00:26:28.500 Of course you do.

00:26:29.200 Well, yeah.

00:26:30.000 Yeah.

00:26:30.480 We do.

00:26:32.000 Okay.

00:26:32.400 And for once, the government agrees with me.

00:26:34.560 Yeah.

00:26:35.820 Even Yvette Cooper agrees with me.

00:26:37.780 Yeah.

00:26:37.960 We're swinging to the right, love.

00:26:39.180 We're swinging to right and you better be afraid.

00:26:42.720 Okay.

00:26:42.960 So, that's sort of where we are at the moment.

00:26:44.840 If there are any more developments with it, we'll probably bring them to you.

00:26:48.840 Cool.

00:26:49.000 But it's a story that's been going on for a few days now.

00:26:51.880 Right.

00:26:52.080 And we're going to bring it to you earlier in the week.

00:26:54.980 But, yeah.

00:26:56.480 There you go.

00:26:57.820 Great.

00:26:58.020 Pretty cool.

00:26:58.420 I've learned a bit on that today.

00:26:59.900 Thank you.

00:27:00.500 Yeah.

00:27:00.660 Okay.

00:27:02.780 Shall I just read?

00:27:03.780 You've just got one comment.

00:27:04.900 Yeah, go ahead.

00:27:05.360 Yeah.

00:27:05.800 So, a drunk changeling says, the airstrike on Iran was non-violent because they just caused 0.85

00:27:12.080 property damage.

00:27:14.360 Right.

00:27:15.260 Yeah.

00:27:15.600 It is a good point.

00:27:16.700 Yeah.

00:27:17.200 No one died, so it's fine.

00:27:20.200 It's fine.

00:27:20.660 Riddle me this, Batman.

00:27:23.400 Yeah.

00:27:24.460 We like some of the comments when they come in like that at times.

00:27:28.740 All right, then.

00:27:29.660 So, you may have heard that over the weekend, well, let's put it this way, I was only just

00:27:37.920 really first hearing about all this out from New York and the potential of a new mayor for

00:27:44.420 the city of New York.

00:27:45.660 Frankly, a mayor that they deserve.

00:27:48.280 You know, I suppose we all in the way get the politicians we vote for and we deserve and

00:27:53.680 if you keep voting for the ones that will screw you over and betray you, then you're going 0.94

00:27:57.380 to get screwed over and betrayed. 0.97

00:27:59.360 However, if you are a woke hellhole like New York, then don't be surprised when eventually 0.89

00:28:06.200 you end up with a mayor who is in every way an avatar of the politics of that city, right?

00:28:13.780 So, before I move on with all of that though, I just want to tell you that we have a new show

00:28:19.420 for the Lotus Eaters, which is Firas Modad's RealPolitik.

00:28:23.840 I can tell you that this is a really, really good news series where Firas explores all of

00:28:29.960 the geopolitical stories and situations of the day.

00:28:33.680 If you scroll down on this, you'll see nothing but praise from people who have watched it

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00:28:38.480 So, if you're interested in geopolitics, you can sign up for £5 a month, less than a pint

00:28:43.980 in this day and age, a pint a month, and you can go and watch his show.

00:28:49.560 So, I'll start here.

00:28:53.180 No, I won't because apparently that's...

00:28:55.680 There you go.

00:28:56.200 Now you can hear it.

00:28:57.060 All right.

00:28:58.440 Aha.

00:28:58.960 Oh, I see.

00:28:59.900 Right.

00:29:00.180 Okay.

00:29:00.580 Still learning.

00:29:01.120 So, this is...

00:29:02.940 So, the man is Zoran...

00:29:05.700 Let me not use for these foreign names.

00:29:09.620 It's Zoran Kwame Mamdani.

00:29:14.300 Traditional white Anglo-Saxon Protestant name.

00:29:17.080 You know, obviously from traditional America. 0.97

00:29:20.200 He's clearly a wasp. 0.98

00:29:21.920 He is a wasp. 0.98

00:29:22.500 Definitely a wasp. 1.00

00:29:23.340 New Englander through and through.

00:29:25.460 Massachusetts man.

00:29:26.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:27.180 And...

00:29:28.300 But the interesting thing about Zoran is that there were a lot of people online, and I'll

00:29:34.220 get to it later, saying, oh, he's...

00:29:35.840 Because he's a Muslim. 0.54

00:29:36.960 Like, oh, he's an Islamist. 1.00

00:29:38.140 Isn't he an Islamist? 0.88

00:29:39.220 Honestly, he doesn't seem to be, right?

00:29:41.840 It's not the Islam side of him that's actually as worrying in this particular state.

00:29:47.620 It's more the fact that every single factor of his pedigree seems to be defined by communism.

00:29:55.460 Right?

00:29:55.900 It's to do with the fact that he...

00:29:57.960 So his father gave him the middle name Kwame, named after the first president of Ghana.

00:30:06.160 Yeah.

00:30:06.740 Is that where his father's from, then?

00:30:08.420 No.

00:30:08.920 So this...

00:30:09.740 I was never quite able to understand this.

00:30:11.800 So Zoran and his father, right, are from Uganda.

00:30:15.900 Okay.

00:30:16.440 Right?

00:30:16.920 It's all Indian heritage, but they're from Uganda.

00:30:20.400 Okay.

00:30:20.680 His father was a Marxist professor in Uganda.

00:30:24.620 He was really hardcore into it.

00:30:25.840 Wasn't his dad born in India, then moved to Uganda, though?

00:30:28.260 I'm not sure.

00:30:29.460 And his mother was as well.

00:30:30.540 Yes.

00:30:30.920 And they've lived in the United States and moved to New York when Zoran turned seven.

00:30:37.680 Right?

00:30:38.280 But he only became an American citizen about seven years ago.

00:30:44.600 Right?

00:30:45.280 Okay.

00:30:45.500 So ethnically, he's Indian.

00:30:48.220 Yes.

00:30:48.380 Or from the subcontinent or somewhere.

00:30:49.680 Yes.

00:30:49.940 He was born and raised for a bit in...

00:30:53.220 Uganda.

00:30:53.740 In Uganda.

00:30:54.600 Mm-hmm.

00:30:55.420 And only in the last seven years has he actually become a full US citizen.

00:30:59.460 Yes.

00:31:00.020 Got it.

00:31:00.400 Okay.

00:31:00.620 Right.

00:31:01.120 And he's a Muslim.

00:31:02.040 Yes.

00:31:02.400 Okay.

00:31:02.740 Yeah.

00:31:03.060 Got it.

00:31:03.680 He's as American as they get, though. 0.99

00:31:05.260 Sure.

00:31:05.380 I don't see why you're not getting this.

00:31:08.280 As American as Thomas Jefferson.

00:31:09.940 Yeah.

00:31:10.360 Yeah.

00:31:11.160 So I wanted to...

00:31:12.500 This is his campaigning website, and I went through some of these, and they're just absolutely brilliant.

00:31:18.020 I just particularly, before I begin, want to draw your attention to the bottom one.

00:31:22.280 Trump-proofing New York City.

00:31:25.580 Right?

00:31:26.020 So it's going to become a bit like London with Sadiq Khan, right?

00:31:29.500 It's going to become...

00:31:30.940 New York is just going to become this citadel of wokery and globalism that's just going to fight against.

00:31:38.480 Obviously, in our case, you know, the British state and London are one and the same.

00:31:42.460 But in this position, he's looking at Washington.

00:31:45.340 He's looking at Trump administration.

00:31:47.140 And he's saying, no, I'm going to incubate New York and protect it from all of, well, let's just say, the actual nationally felt, you know, feelings of America at this time in its history.

00:31:59.420 He's got plans to literally physically demolish Trump Tower.

00:32:03.640 Or maybe even seed.

00:32:05.860 The thing is, of course, New York is...

00:32:07.760 Obviously, he's going to build a wall.

00:32:09.360 Always firmly Democrat.

00:32:11.700 Yeah.

00:32:11.800 But it's also Trump's hometown, right?

00:32:15.940 There are loads of pro-Trump people in New York still.

00:32:18.520 Oh, yeah.

00:32:19.100 Plenty, plenty.

00:32:20.100 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:20.980 So, ugh.

00:32:22.120 Just not enough to make a difference.

00:32:24.100 Not enough to make the numbers.

00:32:25.160 And so, I just wanted to focus on a few things from this, which is that, as mayor, Zoran will immediately freeze the rent for all stabilized tenants and use every available resource to build the housing New Yorkers need and bring down the rent.

00:32:42.140 Well, again, it's a bit like the England thing.

00:32:45.420 Who are the houses for?

00:32:46.740 Because a lot of people have been fleeing New York in recent years.

00:32:52.960 And so, who are all the new arrivals all of a sudden?

00:32:56.100 The thing is, with anything like that, any sort of...

00:32:58.660 When you dabble with economics like that, the supply and demand.

00:33:03.100 Oh, yeah.

00:33:03.860 Sort of centralized economy type measures.

00:33:08.260 Like price fixing or anything like that.

00:33:10.060 Yeah.

00:33:10.320 Or just trying to fix rents and things.

00:33:12.360 It can never work long term.

00:33:14.840 Yeah.

00:33:15.000 It's been tried loads and loads of times throughout history to try and fix prices and...

00:33:20.120 How did it do for Diocletian, Beau, as a fan of ancient history?

00:33:23.820 It didn't work out very well.

00:33:25.040 It didn't work for Diocletian.

00:33:26.860 Did he have rent-stabilized apartments that he was just trying to manage at the time?

00:33:31.280 Diocletian.

00:33:31.900 Yeah.

00:33:32.660 He wanted to have a portfolio of buy-to-lets and he was just letting them all out and he had to be stabilized.

00:33:38.380 Whenever actual communists do it, like in Maoist China or something, or in the Soviet Union or Cuba or wherever, it won't work.

00:33:48.100 It's so forced and fake that in the end, markets will just break through anyway.

00:33:54.500 Like you can't...

00:33:55.720 And if they prevent the markets, you're going to have to go along.

00:33:58.140 I've been to Cuba, you know, three or four times.

00:34:01.200 Have you?

00:34:01.460 Yeah, no, I have.

00:34:02.160 I didn't know that.

00:34:02.800 No, no, no.

00:34:03.300 I deliberately wanted to see the place before he died and then what happened after he died.

00:34:11.140 And one of the very clear things that you see about the accommodation there, the housing,

00:34:14.600 they have some beautiful apartments that you'd seen along with what's called the Mallison,

00:34:19.920 which is over a mile and a half of these amazing buildings, all colored, all built in the right period of history,

00:34:26.220 looking out over this great bay, dilapidated, falling apart, dirty, filthy.

00:34:32.080 And that's what happens if you take the market out of it.

00:34:35.320 Now, I agree that if the market was allowed to flourish, literally no one who lived in that city

00:34:40.820 would be able to afford those within a short period of time because they'd all be renovated

00:34:44.820 and sold off at a million pounds at a time because that's what happens across the whole globe, sadly.

00:34:50.600 But the opposite end of it is lots of families are living in there, but they've got no washing machines,

00:34:56.920 you know, electricity's falling down all the time, building doors, and you can see it.

00:35:00.060 You can see the sheer poverty in the buildings.

00:35:02.920 That's the sort of thing that he'll bring to two million non-stabilized apartments.

00:35:07.960 You want New York to look like Havana?

00:35:10.020 Yeah.

00:35:10.800 I.e. dilapidated and crumbling.

00:35:13.260 Well, it's very telling, isn't it, that when he was seven, his parents didn't decide to move to Cuba.

00:35:20.300 No, they didn't.

00:35:21.100 No, they decided to move to New York City, which, shockingly, to the surprise of no one,

00:35:28.100 its prosperity was not built on communism.

00:35:30.700 No, didn't his daddy get a nice job in a university which was pretty well paid,

00:35:35.340 not in the kind of Cuban communist styles?

00:35:37.620 I'll get on to that, actually, yeah, where his education was and what he did there.

00:35:42.100 So, Zoran will create the Department of Community Safety to prevent violence before it happens

00:35:49.120 by prioritizing solutions which have been consistently shown to improve safety.

00:35:55.440 The police will play a critical role, but essentially, I'll just skip over the whole thing.

00:36:01.520 that we're going to have more mental health programs, presumably more youth centers as well,

00:36:07.700 and it's just one of those things.

00:36:10.240 And, yeah, what's this?

00:36:11.100 Increase funding to hate violence prevention programs by 800%.

00:36:17.100 Event violence before it happens is like precogs.

00:36:21.220 Yeah, I was just thinking.

00:36:22.980 It was just the movie that was coming into my mind at the time.

00:36:26.340 Well, the Department of Community Safety puts me in mind of sort of the French Revolution.

00:36:30.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, what is it, public safety?

00:36:34.060 Yeah, Committee of Public Safety.

00:36:35.400 Committee of Public Safety, yeah.

00:36:36.520 Yeah.

00:36:37.840 What evidence-based non-violence or gun violence prevention programs

00:36:43.040 or any violence prevention programs that we know that actually has prevented violence?

00:36:47.860 Ideology.

00:36:48.880 Yeah.

00:36:49.520 If you're just ideological enough.

00:36:52.060 Yeah, if we say it long enough and loud enough, violence hasn't occurred.

00:36:56.080 When it's happening right in front of us and someone's smashing their faces in,

00:36:59.220 we don't actually see it.

00:37:00.700 There's no violence there because I ideologically believe that the program's worked.

00:37:05.660 I mean, it's madness.

00:37:07.740 But this is the thing.

00:37:09.140 His entire platform is basically fueled by ideology, right?

00:37:13.360 He's just obviously a man from the same vein of his father.

00:37:17.940 You know, he never put down the crayons and stopped with the socialism.

00:37:22.880 What does he sound like when...

00:37:25.000 He sounds American.

00:37:26.420 Oh, he does?

00:37:26.860 Yeah, his accent is American.

00:37:28.940 But I suppose what I'll do, rather than you get the idea as to what sort of man he is,

00:37:33.700 I'll just talk a little bit about this.

00:37:36.060 So his mother, yes, of New York City's Muslim socialist mayoral candidate,

00:37:43.040 declares he's not an American at all.

00:37:46.140 Now, this is from an interview that she gave about a decade ago, but it really does just show.

00:37:52.020 Says he's a total Desi, completely.

00:37:55.720 We are not phyrangs at all.

00:37:58.100 He is very much us.

00:37:59.900 He is not American at all. 0.98

00:38:04.940 And for those of us who are English and American,

00:38:08.780 they've explained here what these words and terms actually mean.

00:38:11.960 So he's basically saying he's totally an outsider, totally an outsider.

00:38:16.420 Born in Uganda, raised between India and America.

00:38:19.600 He's at home in many places.

00:38:22.240 He thinks of himself as a Ugandan and as an Indian.

00:38:25.880 You see, if you were to ask Donald Trump where he feels home is,

00:38:30.580 I imagine he only actually has one answer to that.

00:38:34.060 Whereas this guy is an obvious nomad.

00:38:36.820 A real nowhere man living in his nowhere land.

00:38:40.540 Yeah, that's quite...

00:38:43.560 It's interesting.

00:38:44.080 Remember, who was our Tory prime minister who was an Indian man?

00:38:49.660 Rishi Sunak.

00:38:50.280 Rishi Sunak.

00:38:50.900 Like his family basically said, yeah, we're Indian people.

00:38:55.280 Yeah, we're Indians.

00:38:56.700 Yeah.

00:38:57.140 I'm proud of it, obviously.

00:38:59.360 And the establishment went, no, you're British.

00:39:01.400 Yeah, no, you're not.

00:39:01.840 Just as British as we are.

00:39:03.340 That's right.

00:39:03.940 And I often come to this, okay,

00:39:05.760 where would Zoran be if America declared war on Uganda and or India

00:39:12.200 and he had to put on a uniform, would he fight?

00:39:16.160 Always ask that question.

00:39:17.700 Let's see what their answer is.

00:39:19.060 And watch their sliminess as they try and evade doing the answer.

00:39:23.200 And that shows where their reality is.

00:39:25.500 So, naturally, this all sounded like sunshine and rainbows to Bernie

00:39:30.520 and he immediately got Bernie Sanders' endorsement.

00:39:34.800 I've got to say, looking at him as well,

00:39:36.160 he looks like he's doing a bit of an impression of Weekend at Bernie's.

00:39:39.320 If you ask me, he's not looking.

00:39:41.780 I was just saying, he's beginning to look more like Corbyn

00:39:44.000 or Corbyn's beginning to look more like him each day.

00:39:46.520 Bernie, you can just retire, mate.

00:39:48.500 Just retire, man.

00:39:50.480 Yeah, it does look like Corbyn in a centrifuge pulling nine Gs.

00:39:57.800 So, this is from a while ago, as you can see,

00:40:00.380 but it turns out that Zoran was just a major fan

00:40:03.320 of the Indian Communist Party. 0.85

00:40:07.700 Gross. 0.91

00:40:08.360 This is what kind of mayor New York City needs right now. 0.96

00:40:11.900 Me.

00:40:13.200 Yeah.

00:40:13.680 Where is he in that?

00:40:14.720 Oh, no, he's just saying that that's his politics.

00:40:16.660 That politics is what New York needs.

00:40:20.480 In order to get its act together.

00:40:22.780 Safer streets, cleaner neighbourhoods, less crime, all of that.

00:40:27.000 Where does he see that in India?

00:40:29.160 Safer streets, less crime,

00:40:30.460 apart from the closed off areas where the MPs live,

00:40:35.760 which have military police on the entry gates.

00:40:38.680 Unless you're in the blocked off areas of the super rich in Mumbai,

00:40:42.800 they're able to go down to the really expensive holidays

00:40:45.140 and they holiday abroad.

00:40:46.040 So, maybe that's the sort of India he wants to bring to New York 0.99

00:40:49.080 enclosed areas blocked by police loving beautiful gardens

00:40:53.940 and being able to spend £100 on a glass of wine or something by hotel.

00:40:57.480 It's interesting, though, because New York is famously sort of,

00:41:02.160 it is really a bit of a melting pot, isn't it?

00:41:04.520 So, the Indian section of New York City's population isn't by any means overwhelming.

00:41:14.300 There'll be lots of other people that don't identify as Indian Americans

00:41:17.060 or just straight up Indians, yeses, whatever it is.

00:41:21.340 Why would they lend him their support?

00:41:24.680 Why would they, if you're an African American living in New York, 0.98

00:41:28.260 or you're an Italian American living in New York,

00:41:30.580 isn't he an anathema to you?

00:41:32.660 You'd be like, well, I'm not voting for this guy.

00:41:34.120 He's a partisan for Indians.

00:41:36.620 Yeah.

00:41:36.740 I'm not an Indian.

00:41:37.620 I'm an Italian or Hungarian or whatever it is.

00:41:40.880 Yeah, sure.

00:41:41.460 Polak, that's probably racist. 1.00

00:41:42.580 Polish. 0.95

00:41:43.320 I think.

00:41:44.500 You know, why would they want him?

00:41:46.180 I don't know.

00:41:46.680 And I think what they're doing is New York's always had these kind of sects,

00:41:51.900 the groups, the kind of organizations of the LGB organizations,

00:41:57.840 the Democrat wealth, for example, of business and those who are working in New York,

00:42:03.040 those who identify with the black community, for example.

00:42:07.980 And so they have these coalitions.

00:42:09.700 And I assume that they think that these coalitions all regard him as being the great leader to come

00:42:17.980 and one who can challenge for the presidency.

00:42:21.200 That's why I imagine that he's got his seven years ago that he decided out of the blue

00:42:25.340 that he's going to become an American citizen so that he can push this through.

00:42:29.160 Although I don't think he can be an American president.

00:42:30.760 I think you have to be bold on U.S. soil, don't you?

00:42:33.980 But certainly there'll be a campaign.

00:42:36.300 If he's mayor, he could become governor.

00:42:37.980 The governor's really powerful.

00:42:39.700 And between Chicago and New York, they are the two power bases of who controls effectively

00:42:46.100 the kind of democratic elites and who gets through the major routes up to becoming

00:42:52.540 the challenger for the president.

00:42:54.520 Especially because, you know, people like him and AOC, even though, you know,

00:42:58.620 she's dropped off a bit, you know, they are the younger end of the Democrat party.

00:43:04.620 I think he certainly couldn't ever be president.

00:43:06.400 That's why Arnie could never be president or why...

00:43:09.700 Elon can never be president.

00:43:11.280 Yeah.

00:43:12.380 So there's that at least.

00:43:14.020 Yeah.

00:43:14.520 But you see here as well, again, this is an old one.

00:43:17.480 Queer liberation means defund the police, right?

00:43:19.940 So back during the whole BLM thing, he was totally for defunding the police.

00:43:24.480 Now, obviously, he's toned, moderated the rhetoric a bit.

00:43:28.980 But this is what he believes, you know, this is what he can say what he wants.

00:43:32.980 But this is, you know, when he felt like the entire political winds were behind him,

00:43:37.820 this is the honest opinion, right?

00:43:40.200 Everyone that advocated for defund the police, every single one of them,

00:43:43.180 is an enemy.

00:43:46.160 Yeah.

00:43:46.500 It's an enemy of civil society, is an enemy of the rule of law.

00:43:52.100 Straightforwardly.

00:43:52.580 Well, it's not just the police.

00:43:53.760 He also wants to impede ICE and basically make New York a sanctuary for all the illegals

00:44:01.140 that have arrived there to protect them from the evil orange man, of course, as well. 0.59

00:44:06.020 Actually, there's a very good argument then for Steve Miller and the Congress to actually

00:44:12.620 turn around and say that everyone that we capture, we're just going to give to New York

00:44:17.800 and you look after yourself.

00:44:19.120 And by the way, it's your funding.

00:44:20.620 It's nothing to do with you're not getting any Fed funding.

00:44:23.660 And that's the weapon that he can do.

00:44:27.340 Adams, who's in power at the moment, complained bitterly about the cost to New York of the

00:44:33.040 mass numbers of immigrants that were coming in there.

00:44:36.020 So he was crying out for more Fed funding.

00:44:40.520 And so there's an element of Fed funding that goes to these.

00:44:43.200 They could just restrict it, change the law.

00:44:44.880 And you have to go through Congress and Senate to do it.

00:44:48.120 But you can isolate the funding from New York and let him have it.

00:44:51.720 Or alternatively, let him do it.

00:44:54.000 Let him protect them.

00:44:54.980 Let him try and stop ICE because then you actually have a reason to arrest him as someone

00:45:00.360 who's not upholding the rule of law, right?

00:45:02.860 It's almost Dirty Harry, you know, go ahead and make my day.

00:45:06.020 Do it.

00:45:06.740 Reach for it.

00:45:07.680 Dare me to send in the National Guard or the Marines.

00:45:11.060 Right.

00:45:11.400 Stop you from doing it.

00:45:12.620 But short of that, if he does turn it into one of those really bad examples of a sanctuary

00:45:17.660 city.

00:45:18.280 Well, OK.

00:45:20.240 Great.

00:45:20.680 So New York City turns into sort of an actual hellscape, like Escape from New York style

00:45:25.700 New York City.

00:45:26.660 Yeah.

00:45:26.780 That's terrible. 0.99

00:45:29.340 That's ridiculous. 0.99

00:45:30.780 Yeah. 0.99

00:45:31.160 That's a dystopia.

00:45:32.600 Gotham.

00:45:33.860 Yeah.

00:45:34.220 Yeah.

00:45:34.500 It's going to be like Gotham.

00:45:36.720 So, but in all of this, obviously, it's obvious that we have every reason to dislike this man.

00:45:42.620 But I am just going to go through some of the reasons why he does seem to have gotten lots

00:45:48.300 and lots of votes and actually become the, he's not, I just also, he's not mayor.

00:45:53.600 And that's not till November, isn't it?

00:45:54.700 No.

00:45:55.020 It's not till November.

00:45:56.180 But he has won the Democrat primary.

00:45:58.480 So he is their candidate.

00:46:00.220 And he will become their.

00:46:01.160 He is quite likely to win.

00:46:02.360 He is.

00:46:02.800 Right.

00:46:03.400 It's like 77% chance to win.

00:46:05.880 He's going to win.

00:46:07.800 He beat the big brother Cuomo, didn't he?

00:46:09.340 He beat Cuomo.

00:46:10.400 Yeah.

00:46:11.600 Disgraced Cuomo.

00:46:12.580 Yeah.

00:46:12.840 Well, you can see this though, you know, this is, this is just basically an attack from the,

00:46:17.460 from the populist left, right?

00:46:19.720 This, you know, against what they see as the establishment of the Democrat wing.

00:46:24.140 And so it's really to do with, as I covered earlier, the, the, the cost of rent in New York

00:46:30.540 city, the price of food rising.

00:46:32.740 And fortunately, uh, Zoran is very aware of this and he's going to bring the price of

00:46:38.800 your halal right down. 0.71

00:46:40.580 New York is suffering from a crisis and it's called halalflation. 1.00

00:46:47.380 Today's, we're going to get to the middle of it.

00:46:51.260 How much does a plate of halal cost right now from this truck?

00:46:54.180 $10.

00:46:54.840 $10.

00:46:55.680 Chicken of a rice, lamb of a rice, $10.

00:46:57.780 $10?

00:46:58.620 Yeah.

00:46:58.800 When you're a street vendor, you have to pay for the food, the plates.

00:47:05.080 How much do you have to pay for your permit?

00:47:06.800 Before it was $22,000.

00:47:08.140 $20,000.

00:47:10.020 $17,000.

00:47:10.600 How much does a license cost if you get it from the city?

00:47:12.600 I think, uh, $400.

00:47:14.940 So I won't play the whole thing.

00:47:16.540 You get the idea, right?

00:47:17.920 Some of the halal vendors have got a lot of red tape, uh, in their way in terms of the

00:47:23.180 permits that they're having to use and everything.

00:47:24.780 But is this really, is, it's one thing to say, like, the cost of food, but halal vendors

00:47:32.500 specifically.

00:47:33.680 That's, that's the angle with that music over the top.

00:47:37.820 It's also, um, something to say, it might not be as apparent there, but his, his whole

00:47:43.500 campaign did have something of a, sort of a postmodern, you know.

00:47:48.640 It was very polished, very TikTok-y, very Zoomer-esque, uh, and because his mother is, uh, Indian-American,

00:47:56.000 so just Indian, um, uh, film, filmmaker.

00:48:01.120 So she's very good at this sort of thing.

00:48:03.880 And you get here, but...

00:48:05.960 I was just wondering about that music.

00:48:07.320 Is it the same music as Palestinian action?

00:48:10.820 Well, he, he would be...

00:48:12.020 Maybe his mum did that as well. 0.71

00:48:12.820 He would definitely be on Corbyn's side on this issue, I can assure you.

00:48:16.200 I just wanted to come back to something that you were saying, Beau, about the fact that,

00:48:19.660 um, all the different types of people that are in New York, right?

00:48:23.380 You know, the Italians, the Irish, the, the Indians, all these different people.

00:48:27.240 And you can see here the, uh, the Lester, Lesterfication of New York.

00:48:32.180 You've got this one guy saying, uh, Zoran is of Indian origin, yet out of sheer Islamophobia,

00:48:38.040 Hindu groups in New York City campaigned hard against him.

00:48:41.520 Now he's going to be mayor, and these groups lost a chance to have a friend in City Hall.

00:48:45.920 The bigotry of Hindus is going to be their undoing in India and abroad.

00:48:51.460 Sure. 0.95

00:48:52.180 Right.

00:48:52.940 Yeah, sure.

00:48:54.520 That, that's an accurate reflection of reality.

00:48:57.620 Yeah.

00:48:58.320 Yeah.

00:48:59.060 And obviously as regards to, uh, you know, price freezing of rent, bringing the cost of

00:49:05.280 food down, free childcare throughout the city, uh, for, uh, all children from, I think

00:49:12.440 it was six months to five years, we'll just get...

00:49:15.220 Has he costed it all?

00:49:15.980 How are you going to pay for all this?

00:49:17.240 Well, this is, he's come up with a very original idea.

00:49:20.760 He's been with Zia Yusuf.

00:49:22.040 Tax the rich.

00:49:22.740 And they've been on the, he's been with Zia Yusuf, and they've been working out together

00:49:27.060 how they, they managed to get the costings together.

00:49:30.460 I mean, they're obviously similar types of plans, very common socialist planning.

00:49:35.580 So they're going to put on ice for a moment, uh, the eating of the rich.

00:49:39.860 Yeah.

00:49:40.280 So they can tax the rich.

00:49:41.400 Yeah.

00:49:41.920 Tax them.

00:49:42.760 And then when they're penniless, then you can...

00:49:44.340 Then you eat them.

00:49:45.340 Yeah.

00:49:45.480 Got it.

00:49:45.900 Right.

00:49:46.280 Yeah.

00:49:46.420 Uh, and they'll be cheap, they'll be cheaper too.

00:49:49.220 Great plan.

00:49:49.860 So, but it's one of those, um, enormous contradictions, right?

00:49:53.560 Where it's like, oh, well, we're just going to tax the rich, but we're also going to celebrate

00:49:57.080 gleefully as all of the rich leave.

00:49:59.760 It's like, well, why are you celebrating that?

00:50:02.380 There goes your entire plan with how to fund this thing.

00:50:05.360 And this is just a constant loop.

00:50:07.420 You know, we see it in country after country.

00:50:09.700 It's where socialism always ends in poverty and ultimately famine.

00:50:13.180 Yeah.

00:50:13.920 Always.

00:50:15.100 Yeah.

00:50:15.300 And because that's hard baked into it, because it doesn't work.

00:50:19.460 I'm just intrigued about it because if you get some of the really serious billionaires

00:50:24.180 that live in, uh, New York, I mean, they obviously have really important apartment blocks that

00:50:29.380 are very close to, to where the markets are.

00:50:31.580 The hedge funds work together.

00:50:33.220 Uh, the big bond buyers are all very close, but then they have their holiday homes much

00:50:38.780 further up the coast.

00:50:40.280 And so for them, it's a big difficulty to, to leave.

00:50:43.980 To leave unless they actually move the whole of their kind of business model and institutions

00:50:49.180 out of New York so that they can wreck some kind of working together conglomerate, maybe

00:50:54.580 up the coast, but it's outside of New York City.

00:50:57.060 They're going to struggle because their wives will not want to go away from where they can 1.00

00:51:01.180 have their lunch dates and their bike.

00:51:03.060 Not a lot of them are all there about their children have.

00:51:05.340 Their children go to school anywhere.

00:51:06.600 They can move them out of New York if they wanted to.

00:51:08.260 But it's the wives, the families, and that connectivity that's going to be difficult.

00:51:12.700 Whoever is the cleverest kind of city that is able to sell, we can try and help build

00:51:17.700 a new financial center.

00:51:19.620 I mean, they'll do it.

00:51:20.740 As you look in Britain at the moment, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, a lot of businesses moving out

00:51:26.660 of New York and flying there.

00:51:29.480 Now, I'm not saying the people from New York would do that, but it's a similar sort of model.

00:51:33.220 They will lose.

00:51:35.600 I just find it hard to believe you get any sort of big mandate in November because everyone

00:51:41.640 that isn't a Muslim or an Indian Muslim wouldn't want me. 1.00

00:51:46.600 Like there's big, famously, isn't there, a big Jewish community in New York.

00:51:50.380 In fact, I've heard there's more Jewish people in New York than in Israel.

00:51:53.180 I'm not sure if that's true, but I've heard that.

00:51:55.220 It could be.

00:51:56.620 Anyway, they're not going to want this guy, are they?

00:51:58.720 Yeah. 0.93

00:51:59.320 He's clearly a pro-Muslim, pro-halal, partisan type fella. 0.83

00:52:04.900 Who said...

00:52:05.480 Like, do they want him?

00:52:06.420 Yeah.

00:52:06.680 He said if Netanyahu came to New York, I'd arrest him.

00:52:11.860 Oof.

00:52:12.480 Yeah.

00:52:14.000 And he also said as well that he wouldn't meet with Modi because of, obviously, he's

00:52:18.320 a Muslim and Modi's a Hindu nationalist as well.

00:52:20.620 So he's explicitly anti-Hindu and Israel.

00:52:25.060 Yeah.

00:52:25.280 Explicitly so.

00:52:26.380 It's a bold strategy in New York.

00:52:27.700 It is.

00:52:29.020 Yeah, it pays off for this, can't it?

00:52:30.380 Yeah.

00:52:30.800 This is interesting.

00:52:31.740 I'm just reading what Rufo is saying.

00:52:33.100 I'm glad you've put this one up.

00:52:34.120 Yeah, I was just about to come to that because I actually think this is worth reading in full.

00:52:37.280 It says,

00:52:37.800 The other interesting angle about the Mamdani win is that the ethno-politics of New York

00:52:42.940 City have now shifted.

00:52:44.480 The old political machine, white ethnics and leadership, with dedicated patronage from 0.98

00:52:49.480 the black vote, has lost an enormous amount of influence.

00:52:52.480 The Irish and Italians have mostly assimilated into a generalised white identity.

00:52:57.700 The Jewish vote is fractured as the left has become more solidly anti-Israel, and the

00:53:02.880 black vote is being displaced by new arrivals.

00:53:05.440 The Mamdani coalition rests on this new ethno-political coalition of white leftists, i.e. those who've

00:53:12.760 adopted an ideological identity best understood as a rebellion against whiteness, and as a

00:53:18.520 well-organised Asian, quote-unquote, vote, which tips the scales in favour of Zoran, and against the old

00:53:27.000 politics of Andrew Cuomo.

00:53:29.540 That is quite dangerous.

00:53:31.100 That's very, very interesting.

00:53:32.140 I wonder how true that will prove to be at the ballot box in November.

00:53:36.480 Yes.

00:53:37.220 Far be it from me, genuinely, far be it from me to question Rufo.

00:53:40.560 You may well be exactly right, but a couple of things in there, I would be surprised if

00:53:45.000 it is true that, you know, like the Jewish vote is so fractured, and that they're so left

00:53:50.180 that they wouldn't, that they would be anti-Israel.

00:53:53.520 Are you sure about that?

00:53:54.600 I don't know about that.

00:53:55.480 And that there's a well-organised sort of general Asian vote.

00:53:59.100 Again, I don't know if that is, will prove to be true.

00:54:04.020 Like, being Asian isn't a monolith.

00:54:06.560 No, I was, what, are they Chinese, or they, you know?

00:54:08.760 I think what they're trying to do is not say Islamic, then.

00:54:11.360 There is, there is a big, there is a, there is a, there is a, there is a change in terms

00:54:16.100 of the demographics of New York, and just like,

00:54:18.400 There's more Muslims in New York than there used to be?

00:54:20.060 Yeah.

00:54:20.300 Sure, okay.

00:54:20.840 So just like I said that I wanted to go to Cuba and see it just before the end of days

00:54:25.820 with, you know, Castro, I think it might be my trip now is to get to New York before

00:54:30.800 it becomes a fully communist, Islamo-communist state.

00:54:34.480 Before it's full escape from New York?

00:54:36.480 Yeah.

00:54:36.740 Yeah.

00:54:37.060 Before it becomes full escape from New York.

00:54:38.880 The only aspect about that is, I think, Beau, you might be hitting on something here, is

00:54:43.680 whether the different ethnic groups, which have all come together on the left to project

00:54:49.780 of Democrats, whether the kind of success of that candidate for Congress on Long Island

00:54:57.060 can translate itself now into New York as to mayor, whether that actually will create

00:55:02.840 a division so big that we have one of these almost megalithic revolutions, and they vote

00:55:09.320 for a Republican.

00:55:11.380 Well, that would be sweet, wouldn't it?

00:55:13.440 That would be just something incredible.

00:55:15.760 Get Don Jr.

00:55:16.440 Yeah, I think the polling, watching the polling beforehand will be very interesting.

00:55:22.400 I will just say, though, that from my point of view, it really just seems like New York

00:55:28.160 has entirely fallen into the same perpetual trap that London has, which is just a demographic 1.00

00:55:34.760 question, right?

00:55:36.260 New York back in 1960, which I pull out only because that's, you know, a few years before

00:55:41.480 the Heart Cellar Act passed, in which they allowed more immigration from, you know, non-white, 1.00

00:55:49.540 non-Western countries, I suppose you'd say.

00:55:52.280 The demographics of the white population in New York were about 80%, right?

00:55:56.660 They're now low 30s, right?

00:55:59.740 It's low 30s.

00:56:01.080 They're still majority, but they're majority minority, right?

00:56:04.900 So, it's the same with London.

00:56:07.260 It's the exact same with London.

00:56:08.900 Anyway, I realise we're running a bit low on time with this segment, so I'll just skip

00:56:13.100 through these.

00:56:13.600 I just wanted to draw attention to some of these things, though, as well, because there

00:56:17.500 is some real hysteria about his Muslim identity, right?

00:56:22.320 And on the one hand, I absolutely get it, right? 0.83

00:56:25.220 I absolutely get it, but the thing is that when you are really, really hysterical and

00:56:32.600 maximalist about these things, like Marjorie Taylor Greene's doing here, it's like, oh,

00:56:37.340 well, he's going to stick everyone in burkas, right? 1.00

00:56:40.760 It's like, well, that's his wife, so, you know, it's like, no, if you just spend five

00:56:48.420 minutes, right, to just do the actual proper research, because these are easy wins for

00:56:52.600 the left, these are easy wins that you don't need to give them.

00:56:56.040 You've got more than enough ammunition, you've got more than enough reasons to attack him

00:56:59.960 on the merits of the fact that he's not American, you know, that he's basically a global nomad.

00:57:05.680 It doesn't matter if he's a Muslim or a Hindu or whatever, right? 0.81

00:57:08.420 I understand that there's more of a sting to him being a Muslim in the post-9-11 world, 1.00

00:57:13.900 right?

00:57:14.180 I understand that, but you're going to have to play this smarter, right?

00:57:18.960 Americans are going to have to be smarter about this, and I don't think that there's 1.00

00:57:22.580 this is particularly smart either.

00:57:24.480 Now, you know, I've got some time for Daryl Cooper, I think he makes some good points,

00:57:28.040 but when he says, I couldn't care less who runs New York, you guys have fun, you kind

00:57:33.520 of should care, Daryl, you kind of should, because it is one of the American cities, the

00:57:37.640 great American cities.

00:57:39.240 It's one of the most famous parts of American identity, and if you play the Duma and just 0.86

00:57:45.360 abandon it in the way that some people say London should just be discarded now, just,

00:57:50.840 you know, cauterise it, separate it off.

00:57:53.520 Well, I don't agree.

00:57:55.200 Just throwing the baby out with the bathroom.

00:57:56.380 Right, you're throwing it out.

00:57:57.520 And the thing is, I don't think that New York is unsalvageable.

00:58:01.220 I don't think it's too far gone.

00:58:02.920 There are practical policies that the Trump administration could pursue that could actually

00:58:08.960 alleviate a lot of the stress and alienation on New York that has led to this point, in

00:58:15.080 the same way that it could also be done for London.

00:58:17.380 They should run Barron against him in November.

00:58:20.540 Barron Trump.

00:58:22.100 Caesar.

00:58:22.660 Yeah.

00:58:23.240 Yeah.

00:58:23.820 Octavian.

00:58:24.400 More deep.

00:58:24.880 Bring him in.

00:58:25.720 I'll just finish with one thing from the Donald, where it says, it's finally happened, the

00:58:30.000 Democrats have crossed the line. 0.65

00:58:31.780 Zoran Mamdani, 100% communist lunatic, has just won the Dem primary and is on his way to 0.95

00:58:38.040 becoming mayor. 0.99

00:58:38.860 We've had radical leftists before, but this is getting a little ridiculous. 0.99

00:58:43.160 He looks terrible. 0.99

00:58:44.400 His voice is grating. 0.94

00:58:45.460 He's not very smart. 0.99

00:58:47.080 He's got AOC plus three dummies all backing him. 0.99

00:58:51.120 And even our great Palestinian senator, crying Chuck Schumer, is groveling over him. 0.66

00:58:56.500 Yes, this is a big moment in the history of our country.

00:58:59.300 But the thing is, there are people in the Trump administration, like Stephen Miller, who says

00:59:05.180 a commentary about New York City Democrats nominating an anarchist socialist for mayor,

00:59:09.600 admits one point, how unchecked migration fundamentally remade the New York electorate.

00:59:16.420 Yes.

00:59:16.800 Right?

00:59:17.120 So he understands that the demographics are the destiny.

00:59:20.080 Well, Stephen, you've recognized the political reality.

00:59:23.560 You've recognized why it's got to this point.

00:59:25.740 You're in power.

00:59:27.000 It's not the midterms yet.

00:59:28.320 You've got a full license to do something about this.

00:59:31.900 There are, start with the illegals, and then there are a whole slew, I'm sure there are 1.00

00:59:36.160 entire communities in New York that should simply be deported, right?

00:59:40.740 There are just other Zorans, right? 1.00

00:59:43.220 Just nomads.

00:59:44.100 They're not loyal to America.

00:59:45.260 And they're only there for economic purposes, until Zoran's socialist policies naturally

00:59:51.400 run it into the ground, and they'll just move over to the next American city, where they, 0.98

00:59:57.200 you know, to ruin that one as well, right?

00:59:59.280 So just get them out.

01:00:01.000 They're not American. 1.00

01:00:02.520 Simple as.

01:00:04.680 All right.

01:00:05.560 Very good.

01:00:06.320 Very cool.

01:00:07.300 A couple of, uh...

01:00:08.440 Yeah, okay.

01:00:09.260 Super chats.

01:00:09.780 As, uh...

01:00:10.780 Says, uh...

01:00:12.460 That's a random name, says...

01:00:13.780 Oh, thank you.

01:00:15.260 Uh, worry not, after the chaos of the, uh, Fedekin, uh, occupation of Arakeen, Baron Maldib

01:00:25.320 Trump...

01:00:25.680 I'm really struggling with these words for some reason.

01:00:27.580 It's all June references.

01:00:28.400 Oh, is it?

01:00:28.960 Right.

01:00:29.280 Well, forgive my ignorance.

01:00:30.840 Uh, Trump will, uh, return to his father's seat of power and restore order, as it was written.

01:00:36.240 I'm sure it was in June.

01:00:37.800 I'm sorry, I didn't get it.

01:00:39.200 Uh, Darth Amalgamation says, apparently Republicans don't even run a mayoral candidate in New York

01:00:44.680 City because it's so saturated with Democrats.

01:00:47.960 I looked into this.

01:00:48.940 They didn't have a primary.

01:00:50.460 They've got one guy, but he's an anti-Trump Republican.

01:00:54.180 Yeah.

01:00:54.540 Right, so they're obviously going, well, we can't have a guy who's a fan of Trump.

01:00:59.700 That's not going to gel in New York, but he's not going to make any waves.

01:01:02.760 Everyone's saying that Eric Adams, running as an independent, is the only person who

01:01:07.940 could reasonably stop him.

01:01:09.600 Yeah.

01:01:09.660 And, uh, I doubt it'll happen.

01:01:12.160 Yeah.

01:01:12.620 Okay.

01:01:13.220 Shall we go over to you, Stephen?

01:01:14.460 Yeah, sure.

01:01:15.080 So I'll want to, this, let's, let's get cracking on that.

01:01:18.820 Um, I mean, Communist Party of India.

01:01:22.560 Right.

01:01:23.960 I mean, I just, I just.

01:01:25.680 I despair.

01:01:26.220 Yeah, it's, it's, it's kind of like a couple of stories moving on from like just the fact

01:01:31.720 that we've just got guys on little bikes managed to damage a multi hundred million power plane

01:01:37.700 without even being spotted.

01:01:38.800 And now we have, uh, someone who's not American, clearly a communist who calls themselves an

01:01:44.540 Indian Ugandan, getting in power with one of the major cities in the globe.

01:01:48.700 And, uh, all of these just sound completely strange to you as though there's these hounds

01:01:54.840 around us kind of just moving and manipulating things.

01:01:58.660 And I think here in this piece is also to try and show a little bit of that because I'm,

01:02:03.380 we, we all know what happened in the Southport riots.

01:02:05.440 We all know the evil Rudy Cavani killing those kids and the, the, the guttural and visceral

01:02:12.200 hatred of that man and what he did to children, uh, brought out the worst in some people and

01:02:17.140 it caused riots.

01:02:18.460 So they, the, the elites now have come into a view that they need to try and understand

01:02:23.440 why, why did those riots happen?

01:02:27.220 And what they've done is they've organized a bipartisan group of people to come to a commission

01:02:34.520 for working out why there were riots of South, Southport.

01:02:38.340 So before we get to that, I want to tell everybody to get involved and watch RealPolitik

01:02:43.920 with Firas Modat.

01:02:45.380 His new episodes began on Monday.

01:02:47.480 It's a real big journey about the world's geopolitics.

01:02:50.640 It'll help you understand, uh, where we get in terms of the history of nations,

01:02:55.420 why they interact with one another in the way that they do, why religion is so important,

01:02:59.740 what's happening with the different political parties, why you've got the conflicts between

01:03:03.540 Iran, Israel, where that support, big, big ideas.

01:03:07.140 And, and Firas has worked with all of us so far on this show and he's really showing you

01:03:11.040 how to do it.

01:03:11.520 And I think I recommend getting onto that without a doubt.

01:03:14.480 And it's something really interesting.

01:03:15.980 And I'm finding it fascinating.

01:03:17.960 Rask definitely knows his stuff.

01:03:19.740 Yeah.

01:03:19.880 There's just no question about that.

01:03:21.700 Yeah.

01:03:22.440 So I'm going to see if that's the first bit for us.

01:03:26.700 I might have to pull these because these are coming up.

01:03:29.360 Right.

01:03:29.520 Just move it along.

01:03:30.200 That's the one.

01:03:30.920 Yep.

01:03:31.280 Yeah.

01:03:31.580 So as I mentioned, a task force has been launched to tackle the root causes of the UK riots.

01:03:39.200 And it's fascinating.

01:03:40.480 Here we are.

01:03:40.940 It's an independent task force, as the BBC called.

01:03:43.660 It's going to be called the Independent Commission on Tackling Community Divisions.

01:03:51.040 Even the name alone strikes fear into anyone who believes in the truth, honesty, and dignity,

01:03:57.300 even just of our own language.

01:03:59.020 But it does have some really fascinating people who are going to be chairs of it.

01:04:03.340 It's a cross-party body.

01:04:04.840 And it's going to have Sir Sajid Javid and Labour MP John Cruddus as the joint chairs.

01:04:11.160 So the first thing that I obviously have to mention is that if this entire commission is supposed to be set up to understand why the British public are so peeved and will riot about things,

01:04:25.780 and it's being headed by Sajid Javid, who, when the recent demographic data about London came out and its minority white status, said,

01:04:34.920 so what?

01:04:36.460 I don't think he's perhaps the best guy to be leading.

01:04:39.720 No, no, no.

01:04:40.460 Seeing as he wasn't obviously willing to accept that anyone could have a problem with that.

01:04:45.780 No, no, he certainly doesn't believe there is a problem at all.

01:04:49.100 He was in government, wasn't he, during the lockdown stuff?

01:04:51.760 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:52.300 He was right at the top there at that time. 1.00

01:04:54.900 So, yeah, the man's a scumbag. 1.00

01:04:58.300 I hate his guts. 1.00

01:04:59.060 Yeah, that so what thing was disgusting. 0.98

01:05:02.600 But clearly this thing is just a whitewash or misdirection from start to finish.

01:05:08.480 Because why were people upset at a slaughter of the innocents?

01:05:15.480 Yeah.

01:05:16.120 I don't know.

01:05:17.180 I could tell you without a commission for free.

01:05:19.760 I'm trying to work that one out, really, and just try to think how the use of knife, children, bludgeoning, death,

01:05:27.360 could possibly have wanted to make me riot.

01:05:30.320 I just generally would have thought, once I'd heard all those children were butchered,

01:05:35.040 the best thing to do is get out and bake a cake.

01:05:37.700 Isn't it?

01:05:38.500 Isn't that what we should be doing?

01:05:40.320 The bomb goes out.

01:05:41.420 Yeah, that's right.

01:05:43.040 That's right.

01:05:43.680 But anyway, you know, I'm with you on it.

01:05:45.920 And so we've got, the first thing is, we knew that after Southport, this is what they went to.

01:05:52.840 They said it was a deleted Lincoln Post that weaponized and was seen by millions before the Southport riots.

01:05:59.640 Well, thank you, BBC Verifier.

01:06:01.580 Thank you for being the ultimate arbiters of truth.

01:06:04.560 That's right, of course.

01:06:05.500 Thank you for distinguishing between misinformation and disinformation on our behalf.

01:06:09.020 Thank you.

01:06:09.660 Thank you.

01:06:10.240 What a great service you're doing.

01:06:11.700 So, one single, one single LinkedIn post led to the kind of rioting of thousands, to be honest, across all the cities of there.

01:06:22.860 But, of course, that's one of the things that they thought was really, really important about it.

01:06:28.200 And then there was, of course, another reason that, and I love this from GQ.

01:06:32.620 I don't know if you ever saw it at the time.

01:06:34.900 Great picture, right there.

01:06:36.980 Have you noticed one thing about that picture?

01:06:39.640 Yeah.

01:06:40.920 Who's coming towards us in the riots?

01:06:42.860 Yes.

01:06:43.200 There.

01:06:44.060 Who's rioting there?

01:06:45.060 Isn't that the people that they're normally supposed to be supporting?

01:06:48.380 He's doing a Roman salute as well, isn't he?

01:06:50.060 Yeah.

01:06:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:06:51.360 He's a Muslim with a left-handed Hitler. 1.00

01:06:53.920 Yeah. 0.99

01:06:54.780 That's it.

01:06:55.620 Yeah.

01:06:55.840 And all of the rest of them are Muslims looking down the street there. 0.83

01:06:59.040 And aren't they the ones rioting on there?

01:07:01.900 And then you've got this little picture of a guy in glasses says, we will not become second-class citizens in here.

01:07:07.880 But this is GQ.

01:07:10.440 Ruming, fashion, all about style.

01:07:13.180 But every now and again.

01:07:14.020 Gentleman's quarterly.

01:07:14.620 Yeah.

01:07:14.840 The gentleman's quarterly for those who have too much money in London who want to really look cool whilst they're in a coffee shop looking at a girl saying, look, I can actually read.

01:07:23.760 But anyway, and it's just pictures.

01:07:27.260 But they do have politics articles.

01:07:31.240 And in this particular story of the Southport riots, you can just imagine exactly what was going on.

01:07:37.740 This is all, first of all, the first parts are all about Patrick Hurley was on the corner of the street with a bouquet of lilies with Yvette Cooper.

01:07:45.420 Patrick was deeply upset as the MP for that particular area, as he put it down.

01:07:51.740 And then...

01:07:52.560 Paddy Pimlet.

01:07:53.080 Paddy Pimlet.

01:07:54.720 Oh, just an advert.

01:07:56.040 I think that's just an advert.

01:07:57.360 Sorry.

01:07:57.880 An advert.

01:07:58.340 Don't worry.

01:07:59.000 I mean, we'll just pop in and we'll just...

01:08:01.040 It's good to know because I didn't know who that was.

01:08:04.380 Then they talk about, you know, oh, there was this brutal murder that went on and, you know, how upset I was in terms of being the MP and I needed to come down and see it.

01:08:14.640 And then, of course, they then go down a little further.

01:08:16.660 And they talk about how Ibram Hussein was in the mosque close by and they were told that there was going to be in our very nice sleepy town full of old people and retired people where nothing happens.

01:08:29.840 I'm suddenly told by the police that there may well be a bit of a riot going on, which we've not had here.

01:08:36.120 And then the further down he goes and the further down you go on, it talks a little bit more building up to this big riot.

01:08:42.180 And, of course, it's Andy Ngo and Andy Tate that helped cause this riot.

01:08:49.740 Social media amplified it, talking about how it was a Muslim and it was American right-wing commentator Andy Ngo who wrote a book about Antifa's plans.

01:09:00.740 So now Andy's a bit of the cause.

01:09:03.000 And then later on, as we keep going through that, there's the great part where they start talking about how it's big blokes who don't live in the area.

01:09:12.520 Big mask blokes.

01:09:13.800 Oh, yeah.

01:09:14.540 Big mask blokes came from all over the country that night.

01:09:18.680 So I didn't realize there was lots of vans, lorries and coach hires going to the Southport riots.

01:09:25.180 You know, you can go and buy a ticket.

01:09:26.280 Let's do a Southport riot. 1.00

01:09:27.740 But that's who they blame. 0.99

01:09:28.820 It's the right and big black blokes. 1.00

01:09:31.080 Big blokes in black masks.

01:09:32.480 And wasn't it shown a few weeks ago or a couple of months back?

01:09:34.860 Because that's what Keir Starmer said while it was going on or within days that it was people from outside that came in.

01:09:39.400 And the actual police, senior police people said in committee just a few weeks ago that that just wasn't true.

01:09:46.160 That was not the case.

01:09:47.380 Yeah.

01:09:47.860 So GQ peddling liars then here.

01:09:51.600 Yeah.

01:09:51.880 So that was it.

01:09:52.600 I'm dealing with the immediate reactions afterwards.

01:09:55.800 Rolling Stone in America said it was Elon Musk.

01:09:59.100 Clearly he was out there with his petrol bombs.

01:10:01.160 Yep.

01:10:01.340 He'd obviously paid for thousands of petrol bombs to go to a street there.

01:10:06.840 What is their actual reasoning there?

01:10:08.560 How is he even tangentially?

01:10:10.880 How is he even remotely?

01:10:12.760 Because he did a tweet along the lines that it was like, we've got revolution or civil war.

01:10:20.060 Okay.

01:10:20.440 Remember that civil war.

01:10:21.520 The thing is as well that the whole tactic here when it comes to people like Musk and Tate and all these sorts of people, it's the exact same tactic that they used against Powell all those decades ago.

01:10:35.160 Absolutely.

01:10:35.280 You know, when they just say, oh, well, if you just didn't voice these things, if you just didn't say these things, then people wouldn't think them.

01:10:43.920 Yeah.

01:10:44.200 When, in fact, the absolute opposite is, of course, true.

01:10:47.460 The feeling amongst the local residents is there first, of course.

01:10:52.200 And, you know, people like Musk or whoever it might be just give voice to a feeling that is already pre-existing.

01:10:58.660 And so if you eradicate the ability to say the opinion, you're not addressing it because everyone in Southport is still going to be absolutely disgusted about what the authorities are allowed to happen and about the murder of their children.

01:11:13.680 You know, what a morally bankrupt thing it is to be outraged by the reaction to an atrocity than the atrocity itself.

01:11:23.940 Absolutely.

01:11:24.340 And you can go on through this article.

01:11:26.740 It talks about Tommy Robinson being involved in it.

01:11:29.980 Tommy Robinson, real name Stephen Yexty-Lennon.

01:11:32.460 That's classic.

01:11:33.100 They actually did it.

01:11:33.940 They actually did it.

01:11:35.360 Then we get the, I find it a little bit of an interesting article down here.

01:11:39.760 I'm just going to test whether the, no, that didn't come in.

01:11:43.500 So I'll have to go right down the bottom of it.

01:11:45.920 So this is the counter-terrorist business advisory group.

01:11:49.960 They come on usual assessment of the causes and consequences, talks about Southport, talks about the groups involved, Tommy Robinson.

01:12:00.140 It then lists the violent disorder program that the government has then set up about it.

01:12:06.740 Tech for terrorism organization saying we need to look at that.

01:12:09.700 And then as you get a little further down, you start two things.

01:12:16.100 We know we're not along and we're drawing together our communities and partners to help us do more to silence those intent on spreading news.

01:12:22.860 That's part of the government's plan.

01:12:25.400 And they're interesting that they picked this up because of what we're talking about now.

01:12:29.220 I did do the picture right down at the bottom.

01:12:33.240 I think it's almost close towards the end.

01:12:36.600 This is the part that I think is more sensible.

01:12:38.580 Without generalizing, it would be important to consider other factors that have been highlighting contributions to the violence.

01:12:43.960 Cost of living crisis, unemployment, lack of trust and respect for police, a general increase in violence anyway, a feel of not being represented by government, the weather.

01:12:55.440 The weather?

01:12:56.280 Yeah.

01:12:57.260 These are all the kind of ideas being pushed by this group of people according to this counterterrorism business organization.

01:13:06.400 And I'll quickly move through because I know they've got a lot here and looking at this.

01:13:09.740 Anything other than the actual act, the actual slaughter of innocence.

01:13:12.840 Absolutely.

01:13:13.160 Anything other than that.

01:13:14.480 Yep.

01:13:15.520 Based on decades of traitorous immigration policies.

01:13:18.140 That's right.

01:13:18.740 That's right.

01:13:19.260 It's all the different things, including the weather.

01:13:20.940 I just thought that.

01:13:21.580 A contrived artificial foreign... 1.00

01:13:23.660 Come to think about it.

01:13:25.640 There is precedent.

01:13:26.800 Weren't the Gordon riots back in the 1700s caused by the weather?

01:13:30.240 Sure.

01:13:30.640 That was a weather phenomenon, wasn't it?

01:13:34.300 So we then get this, which is the Home Secretary's statement on disorder.

01:13:39.740 And they have now organized, with police, a special disorder campaign that's being done.

01:13:46.840 And I'm going to let people just read through this.

01:13:48.920 The whole idea here is they go through the list of shops and everything like that.

01:13:53.780 But in the end, we've created this group of people run by the National Police Council and the Coordination Center on how to deal with terrorist organizations and criminal violence.

01:14:04.920 They're causing this, they're causing this, a form of terrorism on that.

01:14:09.400 And I want to say that's important because this is where I believe they want the evidence to create legislation on how to create...

01:14:20.080 Go from disorder.

01:14:21.180 We've set it up.

01:14:22.020 Yeah.

01:14:22.120 But we now need the evidence to go further.

01:14:25.800 So along comes the Independent Commission on Community and Cohesion, and this is the organization.

01:14:34.460 We are a thriving multi-ethnic and multi-faith democracy where most people in town cities get on with each other, but we're experiencing challenges to our communities and local lives.

01:14:45.240 So we now find ourselves at a crossroads with generational questions.

01:14:50.980 How do we live together in harmony?

01:14:54.260 We can't.

01:14:55.940 Exactly.

01:14:56.420 I'm trying to think of that song.

01:14:57.920 You and me in...

01:14:59.620 Was it like living in harmony?

01:15:02.140 Ebony and Ivory.

01:15:03.080 Ebony and Ivory.

01:15:03.940 Paul McCartney.

01:15:04.400 I'm trying to think, it kind of all comes out to me as this kind of song when you're looking at the pictures of that.

01:15:09.600 What's the Rudy Cabana...

01:15:11.060 What's his surname?

01:15:12.500 Rudy Cabana.

01:15:13.620 Cabana.

01:15:14.340 That's the surname.

01:15:15.820 Ask that family how we live together.

01:15:18.340 Yeah.

01:15:18.860 Yeah.

01:15:19.460 Ask them.

01:15:20.800 Yep.

01:15:21.340 Are we supposed to live together in peace?

01:15:22.720 Sorry, could you just scroll up one moment, Stephen, to the top, where it says about the UK is a thriving multi-ethnic and multi-faith democracy.

01:15:32.920 This is the entire problem, because that is the predetermined project.

01:15:37.660 Yes.

01:15:37.960 And therefore, because that is the project, certain conclusions have simply become dismissed.

01:15:45.240 Right?

01:15:45.520 They're off limits.

01:15:46.420 Yeah.

01:15:46.860 And so you're never going to get the answer because you don't want the answer.

01:15:50.640 You don't like the answer that you're being told, which is that we never chose or wanted to be a multi-ethnic, multi-faith democracy.

01:15:59.100 That's right.

01:15:59.620 Absolutely.

01:16:00.000 In the first place.

01:16:00.620 And the more that you force it to be, the more you're going to encounter more southparks.

01:16:06.840 This is not me endorsing rioting, but I'm just saying it's naturally going to lead to that.

01:16:12.220 If you don't, if people aren't going to find political representation for the grievances in Parliament.

01:16:18.160 And they're being ignored.

01:16:19.640 And this is fascinating how the establishment are now trying to create this.

01:16:24.000 And they're doing it as an independent commission.

01:16:26.580 It's apparently backed by the government, but not financially supported by the government.

01:16:31.940 This is an interesting point.

01:16:33.560 And we'll not produce a report from behind closed doors.

01:16:36.100 Instead, we'll engage with communities across the country in order to understand how to enhance community connectedness, cohesion and resilience.

01:16:44.380 Well, that's fascinating.

01:16:45.180 Blah, blah, blah.

01:16:45.740 Blah, blah, blah.

01:16:46.380 But I'm just fascinated if we organize ourselves our own responses to this, whether they would actually listen to it.

01:16:53.680 But we do have an opportunity.

01:16:54.960 Now, I may work on a little project to create different interesting elements about it.

01:16:59.480 Now, I'll just go through some of the names because I think who's in it.

01:17:03.680 All these various people, David Halpern, Behavioral Insights.

01:17:07.140 He was on the COVID group to How to Control Us All.

01:17:11.220 Sunder Katwali.

01:17:13.540 Famous Fabian.

01:17:14.560 Nice guy when he was nice.

01:17:15.700 First ever person that allowed me to do a speech from UKIP on immigration.

01:17:20.560 Caroline Lucas.

01:17:21.240 One of the worst fifth columnists you will ever come across. 1.00

01:17:23.620 Caroline Lucas in there.

01:17:26.240 Also fifth columnist.

01:17:27.600 Yeah.

01:17:28.640 Tim Montgomery.

01:17:30.300 Fraser Nelson.

01:17:30.880 Fraser Nelson.

01:17:32.480 You get the measure.

01:17:33.860 You're getting it.

01:17:34.800 Andy Street, you know.

01:17:37.580 So all of these are in there.

01:17:39.480 There's an op-ed from there.

01:17:40.740 Please have a look at it.

01:17:42.000 Building on our foundation.

01:17:43.360 They've already started.

01:17:44.120 And when I looked at this, the initial plans, we work with British Future and Belong, who I haven't examined a great deal on there, to build the early evidence base.

01:17:52.280 I see exactly how British Future work in here.

01:17:55.280 National representative polling, which is they create the language that they want, the results and the answers that they want.

01:18:00.720 Then they get funding for someone and they give it to a bigger polling company saying, this is what our polling is.

01:18:07.020 If someone gave me five or ten thousand pounds, I'd do a polling that would give us the answers that we want.

01:18:12.200 Public focus groups.

01:18:13.460 He then went around the country, funded by them, hotels.

01:18:16.700 And they go in there and get little groups of people who give them the focus groups on the questions that they want.

01:18:22.580 And that has expert roundtables.

01:18:24.760 I wasn't on it.

01:18:26.280 Calls for evidence.

01:18:27.080 Were you on it?

01:18:27.960 Don't know who these experts were, but they've already produced, out of a hundred submissions, the basis of this research that they're going to use.

01:18:37.300 So the solutions are already there in the basis.

01:18:40.420 That's what they want.

01:18:41.880 The rest is just waiting and seeing what language they can use.

01:18:46.120 They've already made their decisions.

01:18:47.460 At the end of it all, no doubt their conclusions will be white systemic racism is the problem.

01:18:56.000 Of course it will be. 0.90

01:18:57.040 Fear of the Islam. 1.00

01:18:58.480 Fear of the Muslim. 1.00

01:19:01.120 White bigotry. 1.00

01:19:02.160 That's the problem. 0.99

01:19:03.020 That's where it's going to come to.

01:19:03.880 Now, the Together initiative is something that says very clearly at the top of this page of this initiative here.

01:19:13.800 It's a charity.

01:19:15.560 And it receives a hundred.

01:19:18.060 This is the overall organization that runs this particular group.

01:19:22.220 So when you look at the Independent Commission on Cohesion, you go right down to the bottom.

01:19:28.600 You have to try and search a little bit more.

01:19:30.220 Oh, by the way, everybody, if you want to respond, that's where you respond.

01:19:34.560 You can write your own answers and let's see whether they will actually take any notice of it at all.

01:19:39.060 But it talks about the Independent Commission.

01:19:40.940 I have to look through Living Well Together and then the Together initiative.

01:19:44.900 So the Together initiative, I've just deleted it.

01:19:49.600 It's a charity.

01:19:50.720 Sorry.

01:19:51.620 It has seven trustees.

01:19:53.800 This is where it gets interesting.

01:19:55.180 I look at these seven trustees.

01:19:59.060 I look at the names.

01:20:00.760 I don't know whether I've got any of them up here.

01:20:04.880 The steering group together.

01:20:08.660 All these names here.

01:20:10.940 So when I go back to who I was looking at, again, I've just deleted that one as well.

01:20:15.880 Okay.

01:20:17.960 Do you want me to scroll it on this?

01:20:20.140 Yeah, scroll it.

01:20:20.880 It's a little bit better.

01:20:21.520 So I'm going to talk about the one I deleted.

01:20:24.720 Maybe we can try and get it put back up because I think everybody needs to read who those seven people are, the trustees.

01:20:29.640 Those seven trustees are people who work as partners in law firms, partners in accountancy firms, partners for Saatchi and Saatchi.

01:20:39.840 These are just individuals who sit on a group that receives about a million pounds a year.

01:20:46.040 I think it's coming back here.

01:20:48.260 Brilliant.

01:20:48.980 Oh, thank you.

01:20:50.440 You can get rid of that.

01:20:51.280 That's fantastic.

01:20:52.580 So these are not people that you see in political parties.

01:20:55.960 I tried to look through all of them.

01:20:57.840 Dr. Michael Clark down there, it just looks like a simple professor.

01:21:01.940 And I kind of like a bit weird.

01:21:04.480 These people have just ordinary day jobs.

01:21:08.540 And I took out pictures and images of them.

01:21:10.840 If we go across to the next one, then they have a steering group.

01:21:13.760 And let's see and get in there. 0.97

01:21:19.720 Steering group, heads of big companies, Mike Clark, CEO there of RSPB.

01:21:26.860 That's who he was.

01:21:29.640 The thing is, you're asking all these people.

01:21:31.920 Tende Bwani.

01:21:33.260 Yep.

01:21:33.840 He's on this.

01:21:34.620 Why don't you just go to Southport and ask the people, right?

01:21:41.400 Yeah.

01:21:42.300 Exactly.

01:21:42.920 So I'm looking at him.

01:21:43.820 What does he know about it?

01:21:45.620 Right.

01:21:46.600 So these are just a couple of examples.

01:21:49.220 He's a partner on the private equity side of an investment management firm for Deloitte's.

01:21:53.260 So all of those individuals who are the trustees of this charity are just people that you would kind of think, that's just an accountant, that's just a lawyer, that's just a banker.

01:22:06.260 And then they've got the money.

01:22:07.680 I follow where the money is.

01:22:08.820 Always important to see the money.

01:22:10.240 I see the money's rising each year of $300,000 to $867,000 last year and then $993,000.

01:22:16.860 We're still talking about the Southport riots.

01:22:19.300 This is the organisation that is controlling and funding the commission.

01:22:24.420 This independent commission of Sajid Javid and John Cruddus is being provided with the money and control and the same language that comes from their documents is in that from this initiative called the Together Initiative with seven trustees who look like they're just bankers and lawyers.

01:22:44.240 And then when you go through the charity, which they all run, I look at the audited accounts on there, you can follow that all the way through, you then start to see that it's funded by the government.

01:22:57.300 You know, they have funded the big help out, the thank you day, the Together for Humanity, the Together Initiative.

01:23:04.740 They explain how our aim is to build a kinder and more closely connected communities from it.

01:23:11.300 All really weird stuff, to be honest.

01:23:14.240 And they get their funding and they've got, you can list the activities.

01:23:18.240 And now next one is how we're funding, this goes all the way through to the money.

01:23:25.180 It's come from the, a million pound of it, come from the National Lottery.

01:23:30.760 Oh, really?

01:23:31.460 Yeah.

01:23:31.940 A million pound of this is the National Lottery.

01:23:36.140 And then Connor Tomlinson starts to take apart the individuals in it that we've talked about.

01:23:41.980 So I want to get this picture.

01:23:43.020 These individuals are all very bland, all very kind of centrist, all brought together because they say they're Greens, Labour, Left stories.

01:23:52.060 But actually they all-

01:23:52.880 Because they already have the right opinions.

01:23:54.120 They all have the right opinions.

01:23:55.440 Are being funded by an organisation that's money from DCMS and the National Lottery.

01:24:01.480 So it's the state effectively funding an organisation with seven trustees who are bankers and lawyers to fund an organisation that's going to tell us what happened and why people rioted in Southport.

01:24:15.540 Which we already know.

01:24:16.720 The amount of time and effort and money put into containment is madness, isn't it?

01:24:21.520 This is containment.

01:24:22.840 This is what containment is.

01:24:24.480 Yes.

01:24:24.880 It's this.

01:24:25.600 Only not containing anything anymore.

01:24:28.260 Because everyone's sick of it.

01:24:30.040 And this is the stuff that gets us angry in the first place.

01:24:32.760 And there's some really unpleasant people on this.

01:24:35.880 I mean, I look at Khan, for example.

01:24:37.680 She is Dame Sarah Khan.

01:24:39.780 She worked with Hope Not Hate last December, declaring a two-tier policy in extremist conspiracy theories and temporary far-right narratives that asylum seekers seek to elude them as Muslim invaders.

01:24:51.000 All of this are the stuff that should go into the PREVENT programme and that we have far-right networks.

01:24:57.720 But she expanded the Home Office Islamic Network to over 700 individuals in terms of that.

01:25:03.920 Sajid's brother worked with her.

01:25:05.500 So this is a group of individuals all working with each other as well in the background.

01:25:09.880 And I'll let people go and have a look a bit further on that, looking at the time.

01:25:13.880 And I would say they talk about a tinderbox of disconnection and division threatening in our democracy.

01:25:19.900 That is the kind of lines.

01:25:22.400 But here is just – this is the statement from them.

01:25:26.220 Now, I don't know whoever did the clip.

01:25:28.260 I think I did the screenshot.

01:25:29.160 Rather than everyone go down, Sajid Javid and John Crudders talk about there is a timidity that is partly in government because there's no single lever that fixes things in the short term.

01:25:43.640 And there is no one authority in this country who feels they can lead the national discussion.

01:25:48.360 And they pick out Lee Kuan Yew and Charles de Gaulle as the type of individual that should be leading the discussion in this country about how we have cohesion.

01:25:59.780 Okay.

01:26:00.280 What?

01:26:00.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:02.000 Lee Kuan Yew.

01:26:03.020 There he is.

01:26:03.580 For those who don't know him, he was the Prime Minister of Singapore for a very long time.

01:26:07.920 He was a lawyer.

01:26:09.900 1959 to 1990.

01:26:11.640 I would call that a dictator myself, personally speaking.

01:26:13.400 Yeah, wasn't it like a hardline – nationalist might not be the right word – but a Singapore –

01:26:18.360 Singapore ultra.

01:26:19.600 Yeah.

01:26:19.820 Yes.

01:26:20.140 Right, so he was an ultra – some sort of –

01:26:21.540 Yeah, who kept out immigrants and ensured that they couldn't get jobs.

01:26:27.360 He was an effective dictator.

01:26:29.880 And I've even found – it doesn't take you long to find out about his concoction of Asian values was mainly to deter Westerners from criticising repressive regimes. 0.85

01:26:41.440 This is the individual.

01:26:43.000 Okay, I see. 0.97

01:26:43.720 He worked with the Pentagon to help murder people through his head.

01:26:48.940 And so I'm just thinking, this is the sort of individual these guys think should be running the national argument in Britain at the moment.

01:26:55.700 A single dictator that effectively controlled immigrants for the purity of his own group of people who ran, as you saw, pretty much.

01:27:06.560 And some people called him a little Giuliano Stalin. 0.58

01:27:10.920 He was clever, disciplined, effective, prescient, racist, vicious, vindictive, and a control freak.

01:27:16.440 This is who Sajid Javid thinks should be the kind of archetypal individual.

01:27:22.260 I quickly get, though, I'm going to end on –

01:27:24.100 What about Charles de Gaulle?

01:27:24.800 What's he, again, a French nationalist?

01:27:27.860 Yes, that's right.

01:27:29.000 Isn't that fascinating?

01:27:30.220 I sort of do admire and very interested in Charles de Gaulle in various ways.

01:27:33.480 But not as some sort of –

01:27:35.200 Blueprint for Britain.

01:27:36.080 Blueprint for Britain in any way.

01:27:39.220 So I'm just going to end this because I'm looking also at time.

01:27:42.380 I want people to see how the establishment are organising themselves to control the message with the individuals and how they get their own money to their own people to run it.

01:27:51.360 And then they've got these really weird ideas of who should be controlling the system in Britain.

01:27:54.760 And then the way that they did the reports of the Brixton riots and the Skarman reports in the 1980s, that led to the extensions of race relation acts.

01:28:03.700 It led to housing, jobs, where we are, all in the idea of, like, diversity.

01:28:08.620 That's how they dealt with the riots of what they called the black people in the 1980s.

01:28:14.000 Why aren't they doing something similar to the way that we've rioted after the deaths of children in this country?

01:28:19.400 And that is because perhaps we need Lee Wan Kwan as a dictator in our country to control us all.

01:28:27.880 There we go.

01:28:28.820 Sorry.

01:28:29.740 Yeah, it's just madness, isn't it?

01:28:32.520 It's also tiresome.

01:28:34.460 It is.

01:28:35.360 Well, Samson, do we have time for video comments?

01:28:38.360 No time.

01:28:39.560 No time.

01:28:40.400 Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, we'll do video comments tomorrow.

01:28:43.320 But we'll just go, I'll just read out one of the, for $10, thank you, GoodGodMan123 says,

01:28:52.280 According to a LGBTQ colleague, there are extreme right-wing groups in Sweden which go on pedo-hunting excursions and post pictures of the offenders in public.

01:29:06.020 They have to sell and move for some reason.

01:29:08.840 And I'm not sure which segment that's related to, but still interesting to know.

01:29:13.260 Thank you, GoodGod.

01:29:15.220 All right.

01:29:16.280 Shall I just read a few comments from the segment before we go off?

01:29:21.120 All right.

01:29:22.600 Okay.

01:29:23.280 So for your Palestine, Wombo, Palestine Action, Sophie Liv says,

01:29:28.700 What if they were trying to pollute the plane gasoline in an attempt to cause a plane crash?

01:29:34.800 I could have done any number of insane things if they'd wanted to.

01:29:38.580 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:39.420 Just shooting some paint in the turbine and ruining it is the least of it.

01:29:43.780 They could have done anything, really, couldn't they?

01:29:45.460 Indeed.

01:29:46.620 Canis Familiaris, the RF story reminds me of the Madlands episode about the guy who just walked into the U.S. military base, got into a tank and drove off.

01:29:57.420 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:29:58.300 Sounds like just freestyle on GTA, to be honest with you.

01:30:01.560 That's got a...

01:30:02.980 You can find a clip of that on YouTube.

01:30:04.780 Oh, yeah.

01:30:05.020 He's driving around in a tank for ages.

01:30:07.060 Oh, I'm going to have to...

01:30:08.280 Before he beaches himself.

01:30:09.480 Right.

01:30:09.760 I'm going to have to have a look at that.

01:30:12.400 From my segment, you've got Lords and Quizter Hector X says,

01:30:16.400 New York is so expensive, like California, because of all the building regulation, illegals, and corruption.

01:30:22.660 That's why places in Texas have such good housing economy versus New York and California, because they deregulated things. 0.91

01:30:30.000 I'm sure that's the case.

01:30:31.700 Someone online says,

01:30:32.820 I don't think there's a way for Commissar Mom Danny to not become the mayor after this. 0.91

01:30:40.200 No, I think it's a foregone conclusion.

01:30:42.880 I really, really do.

01:30:44.660 Nicholas Ware says,

01:30:45.860 Everyone talks about people leaving California, but the New Yorkers are leaving as well.

01:30:50.280 I live in Ohio and keep seeing New York license plates. 0.78

01:30:54.420 Yes, and they won't have learned a damn thing. 0.71

01:30:57.640 I can promise you that.

01:30:58.600 And then, just from your segment, Stephen, to wrap up, Dirty Belter says,

01:31:03.700 How many billions are going to be spent on finding out something that could be achieved by walking into a pub and asking what's going on?

01:31:11.560 It's so obvious that that's not what this is for.

01:31:14.080 My guess is that the real purpose is to invent a reason.

01:31:17.800 That's exactly what you said, isn't it?

01:31:20.240 And someone online says,

01:31:22.260 Thriving by what standard is the UK thriving?

01:31:25.580 Yeah, it's like the government are the only people who haven't realized this yet.

01:31:30.260 And we're all just there in the ashes.

01:31:32.520 Just going, have you noticed?

01:31:33.760 It's all on fire.

01:31:35.060 Anyway, that's all we've got time for today, ladies and gentlemen.

01:31:38.040 Thank you for joining us.

01:31:39.820 Common Sense Crew State starts at 3, so if you'd like, you can join Calvin Robinson for that.

01:31:44.960 And if not, then we'll see you at 1pm tomorrow.

01:31:48.200 Thank you for your time.

01:31:49.120 Thank you.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 26, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1195

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