The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1203

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the load seaters for tuesday july the 8th 2025 i'm your

00:00:05.640 host luca joined us today by dan and beau and today we're going to be talking all about uh

00:00:12.720 trump's nomination for the nobel peace prize oh very good he's been after it a long time hasn't

00:00:18.420 he and this might be his year oh my good yeah uh then beau's going to talk all about uh jeffrey

00:00:24.220 epstein's ghost and how it seems to be haunting a lot of people right about now uh and then dan's

00:00:31.480 going to tell us all about some of the most unfortunate names very unfortunate names yeah

00:00:36.480 in all of in all of history in all of mankind well last couple of centuries anyway i can dig back

00:00:41.760 further ancient sumerian joke names yes that probably wouldn't work as well but i've got some good ones

00:00:46.680 so it's like an and finally segment of like lightheartedness yeah actual lightheartedness

00:00:52.060 yes for once okay it's pure no one should watch it rental advisory now no i'm looking forward to a

00:00:58.480 bit of lighthearted yeah i genuinely am yeah yeah uh all right then let's uh let's begin so obviously

00:01:06.140 as we all know every single year there's a nobel peace prize and invariably uh someone usually

00:01:12.860 undeserving of it ends up getting it right and this is a prize that the donald has wanted for a very

00:01:19.600 very long time now we might remember that uh he was nominated for it uh back during his first term

00:01:26.120 as president uh around his work for the abraham accords i mean that is a stronger claim than most

00:01:32.260 people who win it a much stronger claim yes yes and we'll come to uh obama won it didn't he obama won

00:01:38.700 it not only within three weeks of coming into office yes exactly yes although that was something

00:01:44.060 actually very interesting to see that obama won it as president of the united states yes but you have

00:01:50.540 to go back quite a long way to find another president of the united states who won it jimmy carter got it

00:01:58.560 after his presidency won it around the early 2000s for his uh international work in diplomacy and

00:02:07.200 peacekeeping um but generally speaking yeah it's not something that a lot of presidents have actually

00:02:14.260 won but as i say it's something that trump really seems to covet this is something he really wants to

00:02:21.200 be remembered for as a noble peace prize winner so that and being pope that would be good if he could

00:02:29.560 get pope after this wouldn't it yeah but as long as he's catholic he's eligible you don't have to be a

00:02:33.260 cardinal or anything is he is he catholic i don't know i don't know so um so uh trump uh on this

00:02:41.160 occasion has been nominated by israel oh that's recently yes this is all very new israel has put

00:02:49.280 trump forward uh for the noble peace prize he said esteemed members of the noble committee i wish to

00:02:55.280 submit the nomination of the honorable donald j trump 45th and 47th president of the united states for

00:03:01.400 states for america for the noble peace prize president trump has demonstrated steadfast and

00:03:06.820 exceptional dedication to promoting peace security and stability around the world in the middle east

00:03:13.240 his efforts have brought about dramatic change and created new opportunities to expand the circle of

00:03:19.220 peace and normalization foremost among the achievements was uh his role in the abrahamic cause as we talked

00:03:26.180 about from his previous term and these groundbreaking agreements uh have established formal diplomatic

00:03:32.600 relations between israel and several arab nations and really that's their whole thing right well trump

00:03:40.720 has done a lot for israel and can i ask a question i mean you look you look skeptical when it comes to

00:03:48.080 matters of peace does does the word of benjamin netanyahu carry a lot of weight

00:03:53.460 uh to to to some nations perhaps not okay perhaps not the master of peace extraordinaire benjamin

00:04:02.480 netanyahu i mean he sort of a man who almost tried to just drag america into full-scale war with iran

00:04:08.500 recently that netanyahu well i'm i'm thinking more sort of generally isn't who's that drill instructor in

00:04:14.300 in starship troopers once you disable a man's hand he cannot fight that kind of thing it's like once

00:04:19.240 you ethnically cleanse your opponents they cannot fight back i mean it's a kind of peace i mean it's

00:04:24.120 it's a roundabout way of getting to peace yes like the romans create a desert and call it peace

00:04:29.920 yeah i mean it sort of works yeah well in a way uh a very roman peace so here is um this was just as

00:04:40.000 you can see taken the where's the mouse this morning of netanyahu giving from this nomination

00:04:47.260 the president has already realized great opportunities he forged the imam accords

00:04:51.520 he's forging peace as we speak in one country in one region after the other so i want to present to

00:04:59.000 you uh mr president the letter i sent to the noble prize committee

00:05:03.120 it's nominated you for the peace prize which is well deserved and you should get it

00:05:08.720 thank you very much this i didn't know well thank you very much coming from you in particular this is

00:05:18.900 a very meaningful thank you very much

00:05:20.620 wow trump said what i said but in a much more subtle way

00:05:26.840 net is looking a bit pasty there and that's coming from the milky bar kid

00:05:32.200 there's few people more pasty than me but yeah he looks like he's wearing like slightly blue

00:05:37.840 he's watted up with makeup or something maybe he's half scottish

00:05:41.020 just missing the ginge uh but um well that maybe maybe that's why he shaves his head

00:05:47.200 maybe yeah netanyahu's secretly a secret secret ginge netanyahu

00:05:53.580 um but also in this very same meeting trump also calls uh a journalist asks a question

00:06:02.680 and trump says well we actually have the greatest man in the world

00:06:07.660 sitting here right now so why don't you ask netanyahu

00:06:11.160 uh which i also thought was uh just something worth saying as well mentioning about this meeting

00:06:17.240 so obviously with this that because there was a lot of talk recently wasn't there especially in those

00:06:23.820 uh few weeks back during the the escalations of the 12 day war as uh as we're being told to call it

00:06:31.640 is that what we're going to call it i know he said that but is that what is is it passing into parlance

00:06:36.660 now i don't know okay i don't know but just it was the quickest way for you to know what i meant

00:06:41.240 um was the fact that of course uh there seemed to actually be a bit of contention between trump

00:06:48.920 and netanyahu right and so of course this is a very very good way to a diplomatic move to appeal to

00:06:57.240 trump's ego uh and appeal to something that he's long wanted you know i can't i'm not saying they're

00:07:02.900 quite comparable but it somewhat reminds me to uh when kia starmer went over to the united states and to

00:07:10.120 the white house and he said oh and by the way if you'd like um you know a full state dinner with

00:07:14.960 the king yes then you know it's just appealing to things that trump as a person not as a politician

00:07:20.680 but as a human being things that he privately wants right it seems to be a way to to work around trump

00:07:28.440 quite well i wonder if when starmer goes to meet macron he brings up ukrainian male models i don't know

00:07:34.680 i mean if he's good at pitching the offer to the man yes so let's let's talk about some of the other

00:07:41.900 beyond the israel question let's talk about some of the other reasons why trump may or may not be a

00:07:47.280 good candidate for the greatest man of peace in our time uh because it seems that he has uh pakistan's

00:07:53.760 nomination in this as well so it said uh the pakistanis were saying that president trump demonstrated

00:08:00.060 great strategic foresight and stellar statesmanship uh through robust diplomatic engagement with both

00:08:07.060 islamabad and new delhi which de-escalated a rapidly deteriorating situation uh this intervention stands

00:08:15.120 as a testament to his role as a genuine peacemaker

00:08:18.960 a little bit odd coming from pakistan again i'm not saying that anything they said there is

00:08:27.480 necessarily you know completely wrong or fabricated out of whole cloth or anything but just odd a little

00:08:32.140 bit odd yes if that sort of statement came from india it would make more sense but obviously i was i'm

00:08:37.040 not party to the telephone calls he had with islamabad but it's interesting that's interesting yeah it's

00:08:42.800 peculiar isn't it it feels a bit a tiny bit um but uh mushahid hussein a former chair of the senate

00:08:50.660 defense committee in pakistan uh he actually had um this to say he said trump is good for pakistan

00:08:57.280 if this panders to trump's ego so be it uh and he said all the european leaders have been sucking up to

00:09:04.880 him big time so yeah the fact of the matter is despite how much we talk about america's insane debt

00:09:12.820 we talk about how woke and weak the u.s military is the reality is they're a giant economy and they're

00:09:19.760 the power militarily speaking in the world yes they dominate in terms of sort of space uh not um

00:09:28.700 well okay i'll walk back on that a little bit but they've got their own military space force haven't

00:09:33.620 they yeah no one else has really got that they've got all sorts of capabilities no one else has got

00:09:37.880 despite as long as they don't do their sort of annual regime change but they should kind of get

00:09:45.420 the priest prize by default because they've they're expected to do this much military and if they just

00:09:50.500 do that much peace prize no i mean i think the whole nobel prize all the nobel prizes are completely

00:09:57.560 compromised on the type of nonsense i think all award ceremonies oh yes i was kind of disgusting

00:10:01.720 sorry no no not at all i was just gonna say i'm gonna back you up on that later yeah and you get

00:10:06.060 like three million quid or something i think you get a million right i think you get a million right

00:10:10.440 pocket change for the donald well yeah the donald doesn't really need that money no a lot of people

00:10:16.580 in science or literature it probably means the world to them but um it's completely um captured

00:10:22.100 isn't it yeah so but i'll let you no no not at all uh but obviously there is another war on that

00:10:27.980 uh trump promised to bring peace to which was of course ukraine within a day within a day 24 hours

00:10:34.520 yes and um uh what we're in july now so that's half a year yes right i'm not saying there's a

00:10:41.740 dramatic amount of difference between a day and six months to be fair he did try but it's just like

00:10:48.520 the europeans and um voldemort zensky were like no we will fight to the last ukrainian and then i will

00:10:55.300 leave with my billions so i can't really blame him for that one but there's another thing for him

00:11:00.220 to it's another thing for him to back out and say well europe are obviously uh determined to have

00:11:06.220 this war it's another say okay and actually we're going to start sending more weapons as well right

00:11:10.760 so you know i think he's actually stopped a lot of the missile systems now yeah he talks about in

00:11:15.480 this really it just being for the case of defense he's slightly over promised but i think i think he's

00:11:20.880 he is making an effort i'll give him that yeah yeah yeah it's not really his fault that both

00:11:26.540 zelensky and putin uh are dug in politically yeah i mean putin's the guy i would give the prize to

00:11:34.040 yeah because i i regard covid as a war of governments on their people and putin stopped it

00:11:41.680 so it's a slightly roundabout choice but i i would i would give it to him

00:11:47.760 serious no no that's why i'm serious because it's uh yeah it's a good take it's a good take

00:11:55.820 um but just before we all get ahead of ourselves no trump hasn't threatened to bomb norway if he

00:12:01.240 doesn't get the noble peace prize uh even though that would be quite funny i just found it hilarious

00:12:07.340 that this article even existed to be honest with you but now let's just talk about the fact of just

00:12:14.080 let's really get into the personal stuff here of how much trump really wants this because he tweeted

00:12:19.520 uh on his true social uh the other week says i'm very happy to report that i've arranged along with

00:12:25.600 uh the secretary of state mark arabio a wonderful treaty between the democratic republic of the congo

00:12:31.020 and the republic of rwanda and i'll just uh carry on down he says this is a great day for africa

00:12:37.280 and quite frankly a great day for the world i won't get a noble peace prize for this i won't

00:12:42.620 get a noble peace prize for stopping the war between india and pakistan i won't get a noble

00:12:47.460 peace prize for stopping the war between serbia and kosovo i won't get a noble peace prize for

00:12:53.080 keeping peace between egypt and ethiopia and then on so you can tell just how much this really means to

00:12:59.960 him it's kind of irrational how much he's got a good case i mean i'll give him that oh no i'm not saying

00:13:05.460 he doesn't yes warrant the reputation of a peacemaker but i think i think that there's a

00:13:10.640 really interesting aspect to uh trump here that perhaps um feel free to disagree but i think it's

00:13:16.760 somewhat intertwined with his his nature as a boomer that he wants the approval of the institutions

00:13:23.680 right the old institutions i was just gonna say that yeah that it's it's hard baked into boomers

00:13:31.120 not i don't want to just pick on boomers it's a lot of people but the older generation that

00:13:35.600 there's no higher accolade than the nobel prize right there's nothing better than that i mean i

00:13:42.900 look at it now and um i'll take their money but i don't want to go to their silly little dinner yeah

00:13:47.300 i don't recognize their authority as some sort of final arbiter of what is or isn't good

00:13:54.540 is the amount of prizes they've given out to douchebags and idiots and wrong ends oh yes uh but

00:13:59.880 still trump is is a boomer and i don't mean that completely majority no he just is yes so he was

00:14:07.600 raised his whole life there's nothing higher than getting a nobel prize peace prize certainly

00:14:11.940 definitely i i think of it you know from a british perspective for me it would be a bit like uh

00:14:18.720 receiving a letter or invitation saying oh luca johnson you've uh you've been nominated for a knighthood

00:14:24.540 will you come to the palace and you know get the tap with the sword it's like well

00:14:28.660 one time a day yeah probably a knighthood would have been a great honor but if you're getting

00:14:34.740 knighted alongside people like sadiq khan or tony blair then what is it worth is it really an

00:14:43.140 accolade anymore it's been hollowed out you know and given to men of such dishonor

00:14:48.540 that all of a sudden is a knighthood real i'd still take it but i take your point it's been devalued

00:14:53.880 it has yeah and that's exactly the point with the noble peace prize as well if i was offered

00:14:59.940 the order of the garter yeah when i was 25 i'd be over the moon but now i'm like oh i've got

00:15:05.880 a i'm in the same club with tony blair yeah and get knighted by prince charles right sorry king

00:15:14.000 charles yeah like you want his approval yeah about anything yeah yeah uh so one thing that i'm not

00:15:21.140 going to pretend to be an expert on every single noble peace prize winner over the last uh last

00:15:27.620 century but one thing that i do notice about it from just scrolling is in its beginnings just how

00:15:33.980 um let's just say western the prize was right it's all given eddie reesevelt was on there yes he was

00:15:40.540 interesting yeah yeah he was one of the few presidents him wilson uh for for his role as

00:15:47.780 founder of the league of nations which the americans then didn't they didn't join did they

00:15:53.540 oh i wouldn't be the one to yeah they didn't join authority he dreamt it up right then like the

00:16:00.280 congress i think said uh no anyway but you can tell by the time that you said the quakers just

00:16:07.940 the quakers all quakers yeah all the quakers well well done all quakers for that one jolly good show

00:16:14.360 um but you can tell as you start getting on okay so martin luther king scroll back up a little bit

00:16:21.720 so george marshall a little bit more keep going yep yeah george marshall okay for proposing and

00:16:29.340 supervising the plan for the economic recovery of europe let's ignore the fire bombing of 60

00:16:34.700 japanese cities off the map yes through peace oh right yeah three p strength through peace if you

00:16:41.040 eliminate your enemy you have peace mostly peaceful fire and i don't mean to be a douchebag about george

00:16:45.740 marshall there just for any americans that might get annoyed with me i don't didn't i didn't really

00:16:50.600 mean that as uh anyway kissinger what right yeah yeah what kissinger was one of the ones i was going

00:16:57.920 to bring i i've chose a few names on here that particularly stood out to me and so if kissinger

00:17:04.520 is the shadowy hand behind every assassination intervention covert war black ops program from the

00:17:14.560 from the second world war onwards and they were and they gave him a nobel prize

00:17:18.280 mostly peaceful destabilizations mostly peaceful mostly peaceful carpet bombing of cambodia who

00:17:25.960 weren't involved okay but one thing again just the the image around mother theresa entirely unworthy

00:17:34.680 of being a woman for peace like a genuinely vile woman um but one of the other things i just want to

00:17:41.240 talk about is of course you've got people like nelson mandela you've got the united nations al gore for

00:17:48.680 his um climate change activism uh barack obama as you mentioned at the start of the segment dan

00:17:55.640 right after basically no time in office whatsoever and the one that had me absolutely you know yes or

00:18:02.980 arafat yeah absolutely creasing was at one point where was it i should have written down there the

00:18:09.300 date yeah 2012 the european union as an institution received a nobel peace prize weird weird yes was it

00:18:20.500 for over 60 decades contribution from the peace just the most general thing that was a slow year i guess

00:18:26.820 seriously i guess it was just a slow year um we if anything the the state you know the country of

00:18:34.420 britain should have got it in 2012 for just how phenomenal our olympic games were i think that did

00:18:40.100 more for for world peace than the eu did back in 2012 but another thing as i pointed out earlier as

00:18:46.180 well you can see by this time how it's becoming it's not western anymore it's liberia it's yemen it's uh

00:18:53.460 india pakistan tunisia malala yeah youngest nobel prize winner so it's just completely and utterly

00:19:02.420 right uh captured completely which all comes back to my point why does trump feel that this is such a

00:19:10.100 venerable award when these are the names that he's going to be put next to and i think that there's a

00:19:16.740 broader discussion we can have a discussion about whether or not we think that trump is uh genuinely

00:19:23.140 worthy of it where we feel like he's you know whether he has really earned it but then it's

00:19:27.940 another thing entirely to say is it even worth earning can you not simply be happy with your

00:19:34.180 own achievements right why do you need this pat of approval from all these elites that you've claimed

00:19:42.180 to oppose for deck you know for all these decades now ever since you spawned the maga movement

00:19:48.340 and there's also another thing here of course which is just that all of the uh it's obvious that the

00:19:54.980 global uh peace prize is entirely ideologically driven by such things as all of the left-wing

00:20:02.980 fashions that we've just been entrenched by you know for decades and decades now human rights activists

00:20:09.940 feminism climate change it's like trump aren't you supposed to be like against yeah most i think it's a lot of

00:20:17.380 what both said there's a certain generation in the west that that seeks approval from their enemies

00:20:22.820 yeah you've just got to stop doing it yeah just to answer those questions one does he deserve it and

00:20:28.820 two why would he even want it i mean yes to answer the second one because of that um because even even

00:20:36.180 in his mind even if someone like malala has won it he's still thinking about he's still thinking about

00:20:41.860 someone like nelson mandela or something he's probably uh so or mother theresa or something

00:20:46.500 who in his mind i imagine right unimpeachable so i guess that but the question of whether he deserves

00:20:52.900 it i mean it's a fair question if for no other reason that if you get to sit at the top of a giant

00:21:02.100 the world's biggest history's ever biggest war machine which is chomping at the bit to be used at all

00:21:08.740 times and you barely use it use it extremely sparingly yeah that's remarkable that really is

00:21:18.020 remarkable that's having power the power to power to not use your power like i'm reading a history

00:21:24.980 of the assyrian empire and i can't remember which one but there's some king that only um completely

00:21:30.820 guts and sacks and puts everyone up on spikes of about three cities so he is held out as like this this

00:21:37.140 paragon of peace for the assyrian king that's because he because he only demolished three cities

00:21:41.460 it's like i mean it's that kind of energy is noble peace prize right there yes yeah ashbanipal was it

00:21:47.700 yeah that was one yeah um yeah it's remarkable because most presidents even it seems that are

00:21:52.980 sort of fairly peaceful minded sort of can't stop the machine you look at obama for example he's not

00:22:00.660 for all his faults he's not exactly a a warmonger it seemed but he still let it be used put it that

00:22:08.660 way he let it be used all over the place so for trump to the amount of restraint trump has shown

00:22:16.260 is absolutely right i'm not sure if even i could do you remember in his first term there was the the

00:22:21.060 seattle uh chad chas thing oh of course i would have stomped those guys flat oh in the first week yeah i

00:22:28.900 i would have sent in i would have uh what would they call them the a10s or the warthog ones for

00:22:33.380 the yes i don't know about actually strafing them with 30 millimeter cannon probably would have just

00:22:40.500 sent in like a load and loads of police to just move them out but he didn't didn't he and actually

00:22:45.380 in hindsight it was the right move politically it was absolutely the right move it provided great

00:22:50.340 content for us remarkable constraint restraint um yeah but uh fortunately you know it i think uh

00:22:58.500 i think there's a nugget of wisdom in here somewhere for trump which is that uh well you know whether

00:23:04.420 he wins this or not whether he stands on that podium in december and shakes his award like he's always

00:23:09.780 wanted to you know fulfilling little donald's dreams um you know he is the president and if he cares

00:23:18.580 about legacy and renown and being remembered well what better way to do it than in the most american way

00:23:26.580 possible of having a bill drafted to have trump put on mount rushmore oh yes that i want that right

00:23:34.180 yes so as you can see are they gonna rework jefferson or we're gonna have a fifth face

00:23:38.900 oh no there's a space isn't there is there yeah there's a there's a space yeah okay

00:23:44.580 well the good job they chose that yeah like cliff then isn't it one with a bit of extra space on it

00:23:49.140 yeah i do find it really funny actually how roosevelt uh when he commissioned mount rushmore was

00:23:54.580 just like well and seeing as it was my idea i might as well go on there too you know who is it again

00:24:01.220 it's jefferson washington is it lincoln and teddy roosevelt yeah oh teddy is a little bit out of

00:24:07.620 place isn't it right uh and again that's no casting aspersions at teddy roosevelt i'm a bit of a fan

00:24:13.540 we need trump on there you think so donald yes yeah get him on so ronald reagan up there or no

00:24:20.900 there was a movement for him but was there never never got far enough uh well trump needs to get

00:24:25.940 moving quickly before the midterms come on come around and he can't pass this through uh through

00:24:30.900 congress i think but uh yeah i think that's uh the really american way that's funny but i imagine

00:24:37.460 it's some sort of world heritage site i imagine you can't do it well actually congress decree right

00:24:42.340 they can do it if they want that's that's what the that's what the last spot is for

00:24:46.420 right i mean it was always set up oh was it it was waiting for waiting yeah i didn't know that

00:24:52.420 yeah well fair enough yeah i didn't know that why not you better the donald you know some pinko

00:24:59.540 will blow it up you face it in some way you probably lose about the first dozen pinkos

00:25:05.860 while they're trying to scale down to it so i i don't think they would ever dare

00:25:10.900 plant explosives on the sacred indigenous ground like that though i i i don't think they could

00:25:17.780 possibly do that just to spite the donald no anyway so uh in conclusion trump really needs to stop

00:25:26.660 worrying about this award and should i think that his achievements as a peacemaker will just go down in

00:25:34.660 history speaking for themselves he said at the time of recording so your memory it is what it is

00:25:44.980 people are going to come to their own conclusion anyway and the way history works very often

00:25:48.900 is that uh despite your best intentions there'll be cycles of revisionism so at different points in

00:25:55.300 history different people have been held up as brilliant paragons of virtue and achievement oh sure and

00:26:01.940 then a century or two later they're cast as demons and so i mean take the example of judy caesar or

00:26:09.060 alexander both have been thought of for a long time as hero great men of history apart from the people

00:26:17.060 that they conquered and or massacred but then there's revisionists that say no they they're just power

00:26:22.100 hungry thugs a little more than that and then this pension will swing back again and say no no they were

00:26:27.380 great men and so on and so on it'll be exactly the same with the memory of donald j trump definitely

00:26:34.660 some historians will say he was a great man and others will say he was like orange man bad a new

00:26:40.660 american hitler or whatever um and he doesn't have much say in it certainly once he's dead and left the

00:26:46.260 stage of history he won't obviously will have no say in it so then it'll be baron's saying it is what

00:26:50.820 it is right yeah baron octavian will decide his father's legacy anyway i'll just read some of these

00:26:56.100 comments so hapsification says who manages to get rid of the u.s uh national debt should be on mount

00:27:01.860 rushmore yeah it's a fair yeah fair point um opunk says at this point the idiamine culinary awards and

00:27:09.700 the teddy roosevelt wildlife present preservation trophy mean more than the noble peace prizes that's

00:27:16.340 very funny who wrote that oh punk that's funny five dollars thank you uh and then uh a drunk

00:27:22.020 changeling says even diminished the us uh has the first third and fourth largest air force in the

00:27:28.900 world right right their navy could take on all the other navies in the world and would win

00:27:37.460 so okay maybe we should have a civil war find out which which part of it's best

00:27:42.900 yeah wonder what would happen if there was a u.s civil war and its navy fault itself yeah

00:27:50.820 well it'd be quite the spectacle like five u.s carriers versus four u.s carriers somewhere in

00:27:55.140 the pacific d6 miss yeah all right over to you bo all right so i think feel like we need to talk a

00:28:04.740 little bit about uh the jeffrey epstein affair again who is because it's come up the the fbi the

00:28:10.820 department of justice pan bondi and cash patel and dan bogino have come out in the last what day or

00:28:18.100 two is it it turns out there was it was all a big nothing burger oh yeah there's nothing going on

00:28:23.700 no no enough when pan bondi said i have the list on my desk yeah there was there was no list on that

00:28:30.020 desk well levitt the white house press secretary's come out and said oh she didn't mean like literally

00:28:35.460 just an actual list she just she misspoke and what she really meant was just like the the case

00:28:40.500 in general is metaphorically on her desk and uh you misunderstood when she said

00:28:47.940 the client list was on her desk she appeared to be speaking quite clearly the first time

00:28:55.700 yeah so just liars upon liars upon liars uh just end liars all the way down

00:29:00.420 they can't stop lying it seems to me this is one of those things in the category of jfk

00:29:08.660 or uss liberty or a number of other things that they will just refuse to ever completely come

00:29:15.620 completely do the full hangout come completely clean they will just they will go to their graves

00:29:20.820 before they'll do that they'll let the whole world burn before they will be completely honest and open

00:29:26.180 about all of this because the truth will burn their world down right yes in many in all sorts of ways

00:29:31.940 yeah um so we know that um that well there's two things that came out one was that there's no there

00:29:37.860 is no client list um even though we were told there was there's no client now there's no client so there

00:29:43.460 was no trafficking so well we don't well just there's no evidence now there's just no evidence so unless

00:29:50.020 you can present evidence don't worry that the absence of evidence is an evidence of absence

00:29:54.660 don't worry about that anymore uh let alone that that absence of evidence comes from a highly

00:30:00.740 suspicious and questionable okay but a bowel of liars don't worry about that how about that there's no

00:30:05.380 evidence so how did jis lane maxwell end up in prison then yep well quite she's wondering that herself

00:30:13.300 now she was just a madame for a pimp that's all that happened but she's in jail for trafficking children

00:30:19.700 mm-hmm and presumably just some evidence was used to make that determination the clients who wanted

00:30:27.620 those children yeah apparently yes there were there was a list of clients in that case and the judge judge

00:30:34.660 allison nathan you can see it here i hesitate to say she see it there she decided it wasn't in the public

00:30:43.380 interest to release those names uh scroll down on that second section oh okay oh no no no no no okay

00:30:51.300 now i've got what i need okay uh she was actually promoted after that trial to a higher court oh was

00:30:58.580 she now handpicked by obama um so yeah so either gillane was just trafficking girls to nobody at all or

00:31:07.460 just to jeffrey all those girls despite their testimony don't worry about that evidence we're

00:31:14.660 ignoring that evidence the testimony of the dozens or hundreds of young women and girls that's not

00:31:20.340 evidence now apparently and we're supposed to just buy this because it's because it's our guys in office

00:31:28.500 but the thing is it doesn't work like that on the right on the left you can say anything and the

00:31:32.820 idiots will fall in line but on the right we don't operate like that we we can't just have our guys

00:31:37.220 come out and say oh yeah no pay no attention to this it's like no there's clearly something very

00:31:42.500 wrong here despite they want it just to go away and people to stop asking questions and essentially

00:31:46.900 forget about it a bit like jfk and there's various other examples although they want that to happen

00:31:52.820 it won't happen because even though they treat us with contempt they treat us as moronic children

00:31:58.500 we're not and we won't forget there's books written to this day still about jfk for example

00:32:05.220 and this will go down it'll just throw it on the pile throw it on the list of things the intelligence

00:32:09.860 services and the deep state the blob wants you to forget ever happened but we won't i won't people

00:32:15.540 aren't like that people don't do that really so there you go i mean new oliver i'm a big fan of new

00:32:22.340 oliver yeah he had an interesting take on this i think that he said right if you're thinking it

00:32:28.260 doesn't make sense the gillain maxwell case for example and the fact that there it sort of it was

00:32:34.500 it's clearly some sort of a sort of blackmail intelligence services led whether it be a us or

00:32:41.540 israeli intelligence who knows um led sort of blackmail honeypot type compromise operation um

00:32:51.940 you know it's still it just seems that it's sort of quite obvious that that was the case even if

00:32:58.020 we're being told that there's no evidence for it um so you're being asked to believe a set of lies

00:33:07.140 that you sort of you know are liars right if you think it will it doesn't make sense yeah that's

00:33:13.460 deliberate yeah that was new one of his take and i think that's an interesting take it's very very

00:33:17.780 deliberate it's what the intelligence services do 101 muddy the waters to such a point make it so

00:33:23.300 convoluted and confusing and absurd that it doesn't make sense that people like us like the chattering

00:33:30.420 classes normal people that haven't actually got any real insight into it we weren't there we're not

00:33:35.140 involved in the actual intelligence services we just have to go ah well i think it is really clear

00:33:39.620 it's very clearly an allied government of the us running a compromise operation that was very

00:33:46.900 successful over decades and got many many high profile people who will include major political

00:33:53.860 donors for both sides and political actors um on its list and it's not being revealed because of that

00:34:01.060 not in spite of it yeah i think it's perfectly straightforward what's going on here yeah yeah

00:34:06.340 um i've got the actual uh memo oh here we go the the key bit here is saying the systematic review

00:34:14.660 revealed no incriminating client list uh there was also no credit credible evidence found that epstein

00:34:20.900 blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions we did not uncover evidence uh that could

00:34:28.020 predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties oh so that's the end of it ben shapiro for

00:34:33.700 example will have you believe that's the end of the story there's no evidence so that's it draw a

00:34:40.020 line under that now and we'll all move on because there's no evidence again don't worry about that the

00:34:45.780 absence of evidence is no evidence of absence or that we're being told that by well-documented liars

00:34:53.620 the fbi a cabal of criminals themselves don't worry about that don't worry about the testimony of of

00:35:01.700 all the actual people involved the victims and things don't worry about all the circumstantial evidence

00:35:08.420 don't worry about that it points in that way absolutely they obviously points that way there's

00:35:15.060 no evidence according to them so that's it so yeah right and you need to blow the lid off this

00:35:21.380 stuff that's it i mean it's like slightly off topic but i think it kind of it kind of relates to this

00:35:25.540 i was listening to that interview that tucker carlson just put out with the president of iran

00:35:29.220 and one of the questions he asked him is basically did you send sleeper cells into the us while the

00:35:35.380 boredom zone border was open and the president of rand was saying no we didn't do that and it's like well if

00:35:40.740 you didn't do that you're incompetent you should have done right that i mean you should have done

00:35:45.700 that because you had the gift of an open board and i don't necessarily blame whichever us ally that

00:35:51.860 was funding this for getting compromise because presumably they might have been a smaller nation

00:35:57.220 and they need to twist whatever levers they can so i don't i don't necessarily blame them for doing

00:36:02.020 it um but the us intelligence services should not be standing for it they should be they should be

00:36:08.260 crushing it and if they have got compliment on people well rip the bloody band-aid off then

00:36:13.300 right well you that's yeah that's reasonable isn't it the thing is okay so there's a thing about

00:36:17.140 the intent i've read all sorts of books i'm fascinated by the history of the intelligence services

00:36:21.700 um i've mentioned it before spire catcher a very very interesting book talking largely about the cold

00:36:26.660 war the 50s 60s and 70s but in that the relationship between uh the us intelligence service and the uk

00:36:32.420 intelligence services is very very interesting they've both got their own secrets of course

00:36:36.660 but they also work hand in hand on other things and what an odd relationship that it's like being

00:36:41.460 married and you both cheat on each other and you both sort of know you cheat on each other but never

00:36:45.380 really tell each other and it's like that sort of weird relationship sort of a thing um so there's

00:36:51.140 the five eyes right which is what the uk was it australia new zealand canada and uk the five eyes where

00:36:57.140 they work together on intelligence loads throw israel in on that particularly the us israeli relationship

00:37:04.580 sure in some senses they're one in the same thing in other senses they've absolutely got their own

00:37:09.460 secrets and work against each other in various ways so it's a very very very complicated thing

00:37:14.340 but so to say that epstein is just an israeli asset or just a cia asset it's it's it would be more

00:37:21.140 complicated than that but the fact that he has got the fingerprints of intelligence all over him and what

00:37:26.020 he did is so clear i'm not buying that there's no evidence now you're saying there's no evidence and

00:37:33.620 i don't believe you well they they said they had evidence right not that long ago said that she had

00:37:38.900 the file that she had the client list that she had tens of thousands of hours of video yeah yeah what

00:37:45.220 happened to it right well so now we're in the situation of true a true 1984 thing of the bit of

00:37:51.220 evidence the thing we said a few days ago is no longer true and if you think it's true you're mad

00:38:00.100 you're the one that's in the wrong uh we're going to memory hole things and you have to accept it

00:38:05.300 even though you know it's been memory we'll make you memory hole it yeah and then never speak of it

00:38:10.500 again and believe within your own mind that there is no evidence now do you remember that and all these

00:38:14.740 sorts of things dan bongino and cash patel yeah and it looks like a hostage video yeah i mean dan

00:38:20.660 bongino is just like sat there like staring like trying not to gulp and and cash looks is yeah he's

00:38:28.340 a bit like that all the time anyway but but yeah it looks like a hostage video yeah and it's almost

00:38:33.780 certainly is that not only is it worse than they thought it's much worse than they thought and the

00:38:39.940 implications of brit of exposing this are just so serious because i mean it won't just be americans

00:38:46.340 involved maybe if it was just that it will be a whole bunch of powerful allies will get wrapped

00:38:52.660 up in this as well oh yeah yeah the most powerful people i mean just to finish up on 1984 thing and

00:38:57.780 what neil oliver's take was that if you think it doesn't make sense or it's absurd or you're being

00:39:03.140 treated like a child that they're contempt for your sense of truth um yeah it's the final

00:39:12.260 order of the party you disregard the evidence of your own eyes and is this isn't about the truth for

00:39:17.460 them it's about power it's about an exercise in power um i think that's absolutely the case

00:39:24.660 power always beats justice well yes and also you know as to what you were saying about the

00:39:29.540 the instance of it all being very 1984 and um you know the case uh well it was all lies and you know

00:39:36.180 we're lying but we've made the calculation and you're still gonna vote for us anyway because aren't

00:39:42.740 we doing well on the border aren't we getting food prices down aren't we bringing about peace all over

00:39:48.260 the world you know and so they think it's an issue but they can simply get away with lying to your face on

00:39:55.300 because of all the other things that they do that i mean if it was an american my top issue would be

00:39:59.700 the border but this still matters a lot i'm not saying it doesn't matter yeah no no i agree with

00:40:04.580 you entirely but i'm just saying they can make that calculation yeah and the fact is oh yeah they can

00:40:09.460 probably probably right calculation yeah it's a classic case like i think of maybe in the soviet era

00:40:14.820 when the people were told by the party that we're more prosperous than the west our system works

00:40:22.500 more efficiently and better than the west and they can see what's going on in america in the 80s or

00:40:28.500 whatever they can see what west germany and france and britain are living like or under mal under the

00:40:34.980 great leap forward you're told there's no famine it's like well everyone in my family has died of

00:40:38.900 famine though it's like no there's no famine you know it's like this there's no evidence there's no list

00:40:45.460 it's like who do you think you're talking to i'm not seven years old come on but they don't they don't

00:40:52.660 care about that it so i mean what are you going to do go go vote for the democrats so that they'll

00:40:58.180 release it right you're boogered on but you can see these people are rattled i mean but it does get

00:41:03.380 sorry well they built their whole career i mean a lot of them built their career on this epstein case

00:41:08.740 they came in with fire and brimstone like and you can see how rattled when they speak about it now

00:41:18.660 someone came to him i guess the fbi have actually done some real genuine investigation

00:41:23.060 and they show it to the likes of on gino and patel and uh and and pan bondi i suppose even or trump

00:41:30.340 even it's like well here is the actual truth yeah that it goes super deep and it's super dark

00:41:37.380 um and you can't release it because the establishment the sort of the globalist establishment

00:41:46.660 is itself implicated main people that run it i mean so back in 2022 i wrote an article for

00:41:55.140 lotusseaters.com do you consider becoming a subscriber at lotusseaters.com um where i said we shan't forget

00:42:03.060 which is one of the things i opened this segment with they want us to forget it we won't

00:42:06.340 we won't um and in this i actually name a load of people that although um gillaine maxwell's black

00:42:13.940 book has never been released and now the fbi saying it never existed in the first place what we do know

00:42:18.820 or what was leaked years ago years ago even before 2022 was uh the guest lists of people that flew on

00:42:26.260 the so-called lolita express a epsides private plane that took them to his private sex island

00:42:32.740 so we do know people that flew on that now let me make it clear i'm not saying that if you ever flew

00:42:40.260 on that or ever visited his home in new york or ever went to that island it doesn't mean

00:42:44.980 that you're guilty of any sort of sex crime

00:42:47.700 no i i know i know the president what uh clinton um left his uh security behind because he because

00:42:57.460 he's got lifelong secret service when he went on the plane he went alone without them why yeah yeah i

00:43:05.940 mean there's some people on the list which i'm sure well i'm not sure because i don't know but i would

00:43:10.260 put good money on that they weren't involved in anything particularly criminal um for example

00:43:17.380 there was uh stephen hawking oh i don't know was he plowing his way through 17 year old girls on that

00:43:23.940 island of course hawking he's got that look about him like was chelsea handler or naomi campbell

00:43:30.180 up to nefarious sex crimes i i probably not right yeah i wouldn't have thought so uh but then there's

00:43:36.020 there's people like les wexner alan dershowitz like harvey weinstein woody allen like people you

00:43:44.100 think start to become less sure sexually sound characters alexander acosta kevin spacey prince

00:43:50.660 andrew bill clinton even spacey is interesting yeah was it it wasn't just girls then i don't know i

00:43:58.100 i never got to go to the island i'm not sure i was never invited yes um so like was courtney love

00:44:07.300 really really uh you know so bill gait uh peter manderson chris tucker bono ray fines yeah right

00:44:16.740 so once again just to make clear so no one brings a case against me i'm not saying that if you ever

00:44:21.700 flew on the lolita express you're guilty of anything but nonetheless it is in the public

00:44:29.300 interest is it not you're sort of in i'm not saying just because you flew on the lolita express

00:44:35.140 i mean you're kind of loading your terms there nicknamed merely nicknamed

00:44:40.660 uh you the thing thing is you could visit that island and not necessarily have been involved well

00:44:45.860 that's the point i'm making this article is that wouldn't it be nice to know one way or another

00:44:49.380 so you're so you're chris tucker right and you visited that island you're invited there and it's

00:44:54.500 like people way richer and famous than me even and i'm being invited there yeah i'm gonna go cool yeah

00:44:59.220 i'll get to network with the most rich and famous people in the world so you go you don't do don't

00:45:04.340 see anything dodgy you don't do anything dodgy right but yet your name has been leaked right that you

00:45:09.300 visited that island we wouldn't you be chomping at the bit to clear your name wouldn't you be doing

00:45:14.820 everything in your power to say i i didn't do anything though and yet their silence is deafening

00:45:22.020 yes we we need the list out so that we can finally clear stephen hawking's name right and show that it

00:45:28.580 was beyond suspicion because there was one of the weinstein brothers there's brett and there's two

00:45:35.380 eric and brett weinstein i can never remember one from the other but the older bigger one yeah like

00:45:40.980 he's i've seen him talk about it that he was once invited to epstein's new york mansion and he went

00:45:46.420 there and found it all a bit weird and he was only there for like an afternoon or not even all that

00:45:50.580 long and they talked a bit about science and stuff and then he left and that was it that was all that's

00:45:55.380 the extent of his interaction with jeff epstein and he has gone on podcast just saying exactly that

00:46:01.300 right so i assume i would imagine he's completely innocent it's it all rings true to me so i think

00:46:08.580 there'll be a lot of people that fall into exactly that category right where they genuinely didn't do

00:46:13.860 anything wrong but there'll be some that almost certainly did right or the allegations are that

00:46:18.340 they did the allegations from the victims the dozens if it's not hundreds of survivors and it said they

00:46:26.820 they did do there was really really dodgy stuff going on that island and this was the guy that did it

00:46:32.500 that was involved in it so uh but there's no list anymore i wonder if this is one of the ones in

00:46:38.660 like 15 years time they're just suddenly suddenly up on wikileaks will be something usually not always

00:46:46.820 but usually the truth has a way of coming out even if it takes decades and decades and decades

00:46:52.340 like didn't they find jimmy hoffer's body the other day or the other month finally yeah right um lots

00:46:59.140 and lots of things it might take years and years and years and years and years everyone involved in

00:47:02.900 it is dead and then it comes out usually the truth has a way of coming out again not always but very

00:47:09.380 very very often um okay so the the last thing said you remember that virginia guffrey you know the

00:47:17.780 prince andrew oh yeah oh yeah yeah she's dead now she committed suicide in april yeah no one ever

00:47:23.620 talked about that yeah yes so right she's dead

00:47:31.380 just a note yeah just tonight so it does seem that whoever wants this to remain

00:47:38.820 if not a complete secret opaque they want it to remain confusing and unclear

00:47:46.740 um yeah but it's perfectly clear though isn't it so well that's a problem yeah yeah yeah it is sort

00:47:51.460 of perfectly clear but then you get people like as i say people like ben shapiro and

00:47:55.300 even people on twitter an hour or so ago saying you've got no evidence there's no evidence the

00:47:59.940 fbi have told us there's no evidence therefore there is no evidence therefore everything you're

00:48:03.700 saying is sort of mad oh right now and as we know maga was built around trust of the deep in fact

00:48:11.700 in fact let's play this uh you know memology 101 um they just do really short videos let's just let's just

00:48:17.940 watch okay uh this

00:48:28.100 we've got to present evidence now it's on us now

00:48:30.420 we now have the answers and the problem is this people who never hedged their bets people who never

00:48:42.980 at any point suggested to you that they don't have data to back up the speculation that the speculation

00:48:48.020 was in and of itself the conclusion that if you speculate without evidence that amounts to an actual

00:48:54.420 conclusion to an investigation they're going to be very upset today because it turns out that the doj

00:48:58.420 and the fbi have concluded that epstein didn't have a client list and died by suicide

00:49:09.860 according to a memo detailing the findings obtained by axios now again does this put to bed like all

00:49:14.820 inquiries of course not people can continue to speculate as much as they want and i think there's

00:49:18.820 still open questions here regarding how did epstein make his money but that's a very serious open

00:49:23.380 question and the speculation for a long time was he made his money from blackmail but the doj and

00:49:27.860 the fbi again run by people like dan bongino and cash patel and pam bondi are telling you

00:49:33.060 they are i'm not telling you they're telling you people who are members of the trump administration

00:49:36.740 people you elected and put into these positions to get you the truth on this matter are telling you

00:49:41.780 that he didn't in fact he was not murdered he did not keep a client list and he did not blackmail

00:49:48.420 powerful figures anyway that that is the that is the thing that they are saying not i they are saying

00:49:53.940 well let's not question that then that's the bottom of the barrel yeah that's not

00:49:57.700 looking into this any further pam bondi said it so

00:50:02.500 also that so that's that's just truth that can never be questioned now also has he always had

00:50:08.980 super villain eyebrows or are these new i don't remember when he used to do those university

00:50:14.260 debates i don't remember them yeah let's just finish quickly if you're willing to throw that over and

00:50:19.540 claim they're lying then i'd like to see you present present your evidence that they are in

00:50:22.980 fact lying because i know i don't think that dan bongino is lying to me i know cash patel a little

00:50:29.140 bit i don't think cash patel is lying to me i don't think these people are lying to me which means

00:50:34.260 that if somebody else continues to claim that they're lying they ought to provide their evidence

00:50:37.140 at this point and now is the point at which the the facts on the ground have changed and so either

00:50:41.300 you ought to shift your opinion based on the facts that have now emerged or you ought to acknowledge

00:50:45.380 that this was never a fact based inquiry in the first place no no i don't think i will

00:50:55.460 lovely lovely yeah no no i'm not accepting i'm just not except to accept what they're saying

00:51:02.580 cash patel and pam bondi is to be naive crazily those people said the exact opposite previously

00:51:10.900 cash patel said that he had seen evidence before coming into office pam bondi said that

00:51:14.980 she's got thousands of hours of videos and a client list so it's not a question of believing

00:51:21.700 them it's a question of believing which version of them yeah right do you know lionel nation do you

00:51:27.540 ever watch lionel at all uh no anyway an interesting quite an interesting new york chap uh he's good on

00:51:34.020 this he's he's quite hard line he's um any sort of um trying to muddy the waters anything like that

00:51:42.500 uh he again sort of parrots the lion i've been saying here is that don't treat me like a child

00:51:48.660 i'm not seven years old no we're men speak to us as though we actually have ability to wield reason

00:51:57.220 now of course this was an intelligence-led yes compromise blackmail operation obviously so so

00:52:04.900 unless we can start from there i'm not i'm not even giving you the time of day yes let's not even

00:52:10.260 talk about all the other stuff surrounding it okay so i will just i'm not accepting that there there

00:52:19.060 isn't a list and never was a list and the other thing they've got footage now of the of the his cell

00:52:25.300 where he committed suicide apparently it was lost or they didn't have it or two people went to court

00:52:31.700 didn't they remember that two of the guards went to court uh where's the link here oh yeah these two

00:52:41.460 people uh didn't do their job properly and then lied about it as and then falsified document uh various

00:52:47.940 things uh they were let off with like 100 hours community service a piece that's weird and but

00:52:53.060 there was just no there was no video footage now there is well that's now there is that's a worrying

00:52:58.980 chain of custody problem it's very worrying isn't it we lost key footage oh look here it is again you

00:53:06.020 were being treated like morons i won't have it most people i think won't have it no they showed a bit of

00:53:14.500 footage well one it could be ai generated two then who knows what day that was from uh three unless

00:53:22.820 unless we can prove what day it was from it's not ai and then you show me the whole night like eight

00:53:27.620 hours worth of unbroken footage and uh video experts can show it's unbroken only then maybe when i start to

00:53:34.740 swallow that one just show me a bit of footage of an outside of a cell where nothing happens

00:53:39.540 okay again they're treating us like like moronic children um but that's sort of part of it isn't

00:53:50.100 it's a test the party testing you saying there is no famine even though you're dying of famine

00:53:56.740 the soviet union is better than the west even though you can see it isn't it's it's on that level

00:54:03.140 uh despicable absolutely i mean uh who was it um um alex jones i don't know if we got the link

00:54:12.980 alex jones did a bit i won't i won't play it but he's basically saying sort of the things i'm saying

00:54:16.900 saying it's sickening it's sickening we voted in trump and the likes of bondi and patel to specifically

00:54:23.620 rip the plaster off on this thing the band and uh obviously not only are they not doing it

00:54:29.060 it well that means they're now become part of it the cover-up at least not necessarily the actual

00:54:35.140 original crimes i'm not saying cash patel or pan bondi visited the island or involved in sex crime

00:54:41.300 but the the post cover-up of it they're now they're now in it they're now part of it right

00:54:46.500 and uh that's exactly what people weren't voting for and um and yeah i feel for i feel for alex jones

00:54:55.300 i feel for everyone out there that's not buying this uh because it's an insult it's an insult to

00:55:03.060 our intelligence it's an insult to justice it's an insult to those victims yeah it's an insult to

00:55:09.300 civilization almost um it's really obvious what what happened and to say there's just no evidence or was

00:55:17.540 never any evidence liars within liars within liars and uh i for one i'm not have i'm not having it

00:55:29.220 nice all right okay all right uh you want to read my things for me oh sure i'll read it don't mind uh

00:55:35.060 so uh sigil stones uh says time to uh give accelerationism a chance hashtag free jelaine maxwell she did

00:55:43.540 nothing wrong uh she just loved her man and wanted him to be happy yeah um got a drunk changeling says

00:55:54.500 i honestly can't blame bondi she thought she had a folder of clients on her list but it turned out to

00:56:00.180 be a folder full of pictures of her kids great uh that's a random name i disagree bo most people will

00:56:09.220 accept all of this because they don't care about truth they're just npcs that's why uh democracy is

00:56:16.180 fake and cringe i don't i don't buy that i don't go no i think that most people care yeah i think that

00:56:22.740 most people aren't npcs they might be quiet but they're not i've worked in with political parties

00:56:29.620 you know over the years in a card carry member of a few of them got involved with uh ukip briefly

00:56:36.340 and obviously the reform thing lots of people in party politics they always say things like that

00:56:41.540 uh about that the general voter is just an idiot most people are npcs and all that sort of thing

00:56:48.660 i've never bought that i mean look at your own life the people you know in your own life

00:56:52.660 some people are like that they sort of never read and um don't really reason properly and their general

00:57:00.260 knowledge is childlike and their sense of uh yeah yeah some people are like that i don't think it's

00:57:06.340 the majority of people i really don't not in the west anyway no no and certainly not on something as

00:57:11.380 big as this and whether they get up in arms about it or do anything about it is something else most

00:57:16.420 people don't do that i'll grant that yeah but that most people will just accept if they followed the

00:57:21.780 case if they followed the case in any way we'll just accept now that there is no list yes yes all right

00:57:27.780 anyway well as a monty python say and now for something completely different yes well um last

00:57:34.180 week but you did a very good segment on what was this one yeah it was on it was on jaguar oh yeah and

00:57:40.180 it was a you know classic bow looking at the the jaguar brand and and the brand demolition that they'd

00:57:47.380 done to them with their weird androgynous gay commercial thing that they did anyway uh very sensible

00:57:53.780 segment and we managed to get through 90 of it um before we hit upon the fact that the ceo

00:58:01.620 of jaguar uh is literally called uh raw dong lover uh where is it is that really his real name yes

00:58:11.540 there you go a rod rod rodong lover and basically we we got to that point isn't he

00:58:19.140 a gaming as well isn't he isn't he is he a practicing homosexual i don't know i'll put a

00:58:23.860 question mark on that because i don't know i can't i don't want um um but yeah literally his name is raw

00:58:29.780 dong lover and um and and basically at that point you would you were trying to get to the end of your

00:58:37.380 segment and wrap it up bring your thoughts together you know deliver your crucial conclusion

00:58:42.260 and i just torpedoed that segment because i i just couldn't let that go i really couldn't right

00:58:49.380 and then quick thing yeah raw don where is that from i've never i don't think i've ever heard that

00:58:55.060 before raw don is that welsh or something what is that i have uh have you ever have you ever met

00:59:01.860 anyone from soho i imagine i don't know why i'm thinking welsh probably not welsh i don't know

00:59:08.580 i i i i didn't think about that deeply i just fuffled um anyway so so then i started up on that

00:59:15.860 and then and then the and then the chat the little chat box that's scrolling away down there

00:59:21.140 um they started sort of making other suggestions and i just thought yes i i can't let this go i'm

00:59:29.460 going to have to investigate to see if there is anyone else who has a silly name um and at this point

00:59:36.580 i would just like to give out a uh parental advisory um the this is not going to be the

00:59:43.060 normal highbrow content this is going to be the lowest form of puerile slop imaginable and therefore

00:59:48.500 it should not be viewed by anybody so please turn off now um if if for some reason you're tied to a

00:59:54.500 chair and and you are forced to watch this and i do apologize because i've now got a list for you

01:00:00.180 um let's start um this won't be what loads of these has put forward for our pulitzer

01:00:05.140 nomination possibly not um okay dick shove

01:00:08.980 um who who who is he's a dutch politician civil servant dick shove right um um dutch is quite good

01:00:18.980 at this if your second name is something sort of slightly funny and your first name's richard yes

01:00:24.740 don't don't shorten it yeah don't shorten it i would have thought yeah um this guy i'm pretty

01:00:30.740 sure he's changed his name because he cropped up 15 years ago and he used to spell it with a c

01:00:37.380 right um but he's he's changed it to make it a little bit obvious but here we've got tiny

01:00:41.220 cock well i love the fact that it's martinez josephus uh maria tiny cocks

01:00:47.380 so tiny is only a nickname yes yes but that's the name that he gets cursed with on the the wiki

01:00:56.180 bio but his wiki page is tiny it's what he goes by surely he's having a laugh miss surely mr cock

01:01:04.980 was like i need a nickname i need a what what what what tiny yeah everyone can call me hugh no we're

01:01:12.900 going straight to tiny sure you would only do that if you had a very good sense of humor

01:01:21.300 didn't take yourself all that seriously i think he's also yeah he's dutch as well

01:01:25.220 okay maybe he's just such a funny randy bum gardener

01:01:33.300 oh no i remember now we mentioned that during the jag segment didn't we yes yeah he was one of

01:01:39.220 the audience suggestions but i thought i thought what i love as well is with the tash he kind of

01:01:42.980 looks like randy from south park as well he's got a bit of that look to him at least he didn't pick

01:01:48.420 the up the the uh the nickname up here or anything it could have could have been worse oh i'm sorry i

01:01:52.980 thought this was america oh i'm sorry um uh of course we've got the classic um uh mr wiener yep classic

01:02:01.540 why not um i found a better one uh some guy again it goes to the whole question of why do you

01:02:08.980 go by the nickname dick um dick sweat dick sweat um come on i i personally would just stick with

01:02:20.100 richard in that case it must be it must be brutal knowing your parents detested you from birth

01:02:27.060 like you could go with rick or ricky and of course richard but he obviously

01:02:31.940 he he's chosen that way he goes by that yes dick sweat he's not insisting no one ever calls him dick

01:02:38.340 sweat he's okay with it yeah no perfectly sensible perfectly sensible um

01:02:46.180 this this is bold dick army wow that's that's actually quite that i mean that's a sort of a

01:02:51.460 stronger name that one i was a congressman dink dick army um

01:02:55.060 um okay how many how many places do you reckon he's invaded

01:03:03.140 difficult to get into areas i'd imagine hairy uh hairy g balls

01:03:12.820 i do so apologize audience i mean

01:03:14.660 you you you you you well who's this guy what's he famous is there anything i don't know i could

01:03:20.820 i couldn't find too many details but i can't i can't leave him out um did you create that web page

01:03:26.500 yes you made that way dick pound i actually quite like this one i quite like this one if i was him

01:03:32.980 i would go by dick rather than richard i think because like dick pound is so yes is actually quite

01:03:40.500 funny yes and like not uh it's embarrassing a bit if your name is dick pound but not that bad

01:03:45.540 oh there were there were embarrassing versions i give you dick trickle naming yourself after gonorrhea

01:03:53.460 is is is is a bold move and and mr trickle has gone for is he the guy on the left or the right

01:03:59.220 which one is he enough i'm not sure actually yes it's the left oh no wait it's the race driver

01:04:04.580 is the race driver so i'm probably not the bigger guy right i don't know oh okay um but yeah like

01:04:09.460 so like dick pound isn't too bad no because that's sort of better than dick trickle but yeah like

01:04:15.140 dick trickle or dick sweat surely you would rather not be known by that can you imagine the

01:04:21.940 conversations that would happen if all three of these men would put a table together yes when dicks collide

01:04:28.340 he's one of the great i know randy johnson oh really the first guy like great he's one of the

01:04:39.860 all-time greatest pictures yeah right really tall dude seriously a picture yeah well he's not a

01:04:45.300 catcher is he not with a name like that as a fellow johnson myself i'm glad to see some representation

01:04:55.300 yeah this segment now he was he was great he was really a great uh great ball player the big unit

01:05:02.580 yeah the rate he played for the razorbacks didn't he oh yeah yeah of course he's a picture um i quite

01:05:08.020 like this one young boozer that's a hell of a name yeah yeah that's quite funny yeah i like that you

01:05:12.740 could go through life with that yeah you'd have to like people would go really all the time but yeah

01:05:17.620 especially when you're in your 20s and stuff i love that as well young j cabooza the third yes three

01:05:22.660 there's been three of them his great granddad hit upon the name and he was like yes we're keeping

01:05:29.860 that for the next three generations a lot of these names are funny the christian name part of it it's

01:05:36.420 not really a real proper christian again like uh young have you ever met anyone whose christian name

01:05:42.660 was young no no right right no all right next what do we got next oh god no wankard poser come on is

01:05:52.580 that a florida politician the thing with these i always want to know who they are now when i've

01:05:59.700 not heard of wankard well his name is rankard but that's who he is his name is rankard poser that's

01:06:04.580 his name not even a change like that that's the name i feel like his real name was like

01:06:09.700 like dave smith and his detractors have just edited his wiki page no that no that no he even

01:06:18.100 has remarkable gets called it at school it's like no i'm going to own it yeah that's who i am from

01:06:22.580 now on he even ran a publication entitled wankard poses bumblebee a paper with a sting oh come on so

01:06:31.780 yeah maybe do americans americans don't really use the word wank or wanker much do they i don't know i

01:06:38.500 don't know i don't think they do maybe for americans wankard isn't wank is a very british

01:06:43.780 slang maybe all the americans in the chat is like what the hell are they talking about yeah that's

01:06:47.060 a perfectly normal name wankard pose i mean why wouldn't you call your kid that what's the issue

01:06:53.940 don't get it mr again mr and mrs poser welcoming their new arrival to the world yes wankard

01:07:01.380 yeah and the wife is like sold yep that's that's the name the nurse at the hospital just

01:07:08.660 are you sure yeah take a moment there's no rush i can i can write that down on the birth certificate

01:07:14.820 oh you've got that you can you can take an hour or two yeah right uh but uh but americans are funny

01:07:20.180 with their names i mean john boner obviously um classic you all know that one uh this one's nice and

01:07:25.220 mile crystal ball well that's nice i like that one don't mind that one that much um this is also

01:07:31.300 funny um and bear in mind the character wasn't named after him he joined he joined the company

01:07:39.940 after the character was established um doug bowser at nintendo right he joined after bowser was already a

01:07:49.940 character um and then he ended up getting promoted up to ceo you see just based on his name well no he

01:07:56.740 i mean he started entry level and he got he got kicked up to ceo so i don't know if that was like

01:08:01.860 whether the japanese were just like that that is very funny or no yeah imagine japanese being outside

01:08:06.900 it's like the ceo bowser will see you now sometimes i do feel like that sometimes what someone's name

01:08:16.340 actually is or certainly often what they look like rather than the content of their character

01:08:20.180 or what they've actually when he actually looks like a koopa he does look i should just say that

01:08:24.020 he does look like koopa yeah a koopa um but what bowser was the king of the koopas wasn't he yeah

01:08:29.620 basically yeah he was the end boss yeah a lot of the time in most of the marriage ceo must be lower than

01:08:34.100 king um uh i feel like quite often what you look like and sometimes even what your name is

01:08:39.860 can really really help you in life and your career massively especially if you're getting a job at

01:08:44.820 nintendo and your name is bowser um greg or fucker

01:08:51.780 very tall very tall seven is he from so okay so it's yugoslavian so they probably pronounce

01:08:56.820 that a bit different nonetheless yes we'll pronounce it like that yeah because it's funny well the next

01:09:02.180 one's got no choice because she's american um misty hyman um samson laughing again at that one

01:09:10.740 miss and miss misty hyman as you can see i've not gone for the wikipedia page i've

01:09:14.660 gone for her olympiad page because she's a she's a swimmer is she now she's actually a swimmer

01:09:21.620 yeah right yeah right she's she's wet quite often well yeah it comes to the job doesn't it okay

01:09:30.020 i mean keeping keeping keeping you all dry in that in that scenario is obviously going to be

01:09:34.580 challenging um misty as well yeah you think if she's very fast look she got a gold medal though

01:09:44.020 the fastest swimmer for for a time she was the best of the best danny danny shittu

01:09:50.900 why not nigerian common nigerian name yeah i remember i remember danny shittu yeah uh he was crap

01:09:57.860 well he's better than me yeah then you see two as well shit hairy colon

01:10:06.900 it's a bit of a stretch with the harry yeah you can't just purposely i mean i get it it's funny

01:10:12.820 hang on you're cheating mildly some people abbreviate harry to just hair though don't they

01:10:19.780 yeah like yo hair yeah so hair cut yeah mostly from the parents not calling him richard though

01:10:26.580 that was a was it was a football defensive back or something well you would be defensive

01:10:30.740 america yeah okay um the next one um i am i am gonna have to hedge it slightly because look there

01:10:40.420 are some names that we just don't like well there was there's basically one name that we have to be a

01:10:45.460 little bit cautious about saying on youtube because it triggers all sorts of automatic

01:10:50.100 censorship mechanisms and so we we just end up referring to him as you know the mustache man or

01:10:55.940 the austrian painter okay or something like that yeah but i just want to make it very clear to youtube

01:11:00.660 before we go on to the next one that i'm going to be talking about a completely different man

01:11:05.940 just make that clear a different a different man um dr gay hitler

01:11:11.460 surname hitler surname hitler yes okay first name gay first name gay right surname hitler and um he he

01:11:20.980 was a um he he was a doctor uh in in in the united states uh there's there's there there's a picture

01:11:28.420 of dr gay hitler is it from way back is it like before it's 19th century this is an old okay so it's

01:11:34.580 long before the actual austrian painter became prominent no actually they were more or less concurrent oh was

01:11:40.820 it more or less concurrent yeah um and i would like to imagine that if this guy had had a

01:11:49.300 political career um he would have taken more after his first name rather than his second name because

01:11:56.740 i'd like because the thing you have to remember is back in those days gay meant something different

01:12:00.740 to what it means right now it means like being really happy yeah yeah so i just like to i just

01:12:05.460 imagine if he had a political career he'd be like on stage going yeah it's great guys isn't it rather than

01:12:10.500 you know angry pointing and i'm the happy hitler i'm the bizarro hitler yes um speaking of political

01:12:17.380 careers have you ever thought what you would do if you had a time machine yeah yeah right i have now

01:12:23.700 decided what i would do i'm going to go back in time and get his dad a political career right the reason

01:12:31.380 being is his dad was called where is it george washington hitler wow how okay and he and he

01:12:42.660 predated the other one that we can't mention right and i just think it'd be incredibly funny to go back

01:12:47.460 in time back his dad get him installed as like the 35th president and when the timeline corrects and

01:12:55.220 everyone goes back and looks at their history book they'd be like sorry what the 35th president was

01:13:00.740 called george washington hitler anyway it's funny just a quick mention hitler obviously it's not

01:13:08.020 wasn't hitler's real name no no we don't mention him oh no i'm just saying i'm just saying oh this

01:13:15.380 this guy i'm just tipping my fedora like his real name was like stickle gruber or something rather

01:13:19.140 wasn't that was it yeah yeah oh starling wasn't his real name his real name was yugashili

01:13:24.580 they're they're like they're politics names war names of war um so it's it's possibly possible

01:13:29.700 that stick and gruber was like oh god i need i need a politics name and he was skimming through

01:13:33.700 a list of american doctors trying to trying to find inspiration and he's like yeah this guy i'll drop

01:13:40.580 the gay i'll go with i don't know pick a because at least that way i'll get you know right my name read

01:13:45.940 out earlier i can't remember i've probably got that wrong it's something like stickle gruber i

01:13:50.580 don't think it is that but it's something close to that but anyway anyway now if if the previous

01:13:55.300 name i had to cover sensitively and i couldn't say i had to be careful about how i said it out loud

01:14:00.740 on youtube yes i apologize so sincerely for the next name and i really don't think i can read this

01:14:07.540 out so for those of you who are listening rather than watching i do apologize the c-bomb oh yeah

01:14:13.460 okay yeah yeah yeah yeah i can't i can't okay do you want do one of you want to say i mean

01:14:19.620 say kuntz yeah rusty kuntz he was i mean he's actually pronounced the way that

01:14:26.820 you fear it's pronounced there's a german footballer have you seen you on your list

01:14:31.860 he's got that name as well oh is he no i didn't get him i didn't get him but no for those of you

01:14:36.180 you were listening first name rusty second name k-u-n-t-z yes so um anyway moving swiftly on um

01:14:47.620 let's go to dick face um come on is it i think i think he mostly tried to go by richard though

01:14:58.740 um well you would he doesn't look happy yeah and his face is a bit i mean that's a yeah that's a

01:15:03.780 schnoz isn't it yeah that's that's that's that's that's a tiny bit unfortunate um that one he

01:15:10.020 doesn't look happy but you you can understand why um mike crappo well no okay i thought i might have

01:15:20.580 heard of him before but i guess not what crappo oh he was a congressman yep okay crap and and i'm

01:15:28.180 confused about charles e hooker because my loose understanding of surnames is like if your name is

01:15:34.340 like for example john smith you can reasonably expect that one of your great great grandfathers

01:15:38.660 was a smith yes because that's where surnames come from does it does that work for hooker as well

01:15:43.140 i don't know i'm not sure how long hooker has been a a euphemism for prostitute anyway i don't know

01:15:50.900 yes i don't know if that it might go back a long way it might not i really don't know yes um wasn't

01:15:56.580 there a there's another hooker in the american civil war who was a general is it a joseph hooker it's

01:16:03.540 just a general hooker though yeah yeah general general general purpose hooker um anyway did he command

01:16:12.260 dick army who came up earlier um who else we are oh this one is chubby cocks um no no singer the

01:16:22.020 chubby cock yeah um oh again chubby is only a nickname yes he obviously lent into it yeah he

01:16:30.100 obviously liked it i mean i wouldn't mind leaning into that one that that one is one that you could

01:16:34.180 lean into um while we're on these uh football players well you say it's one you'd lean into but

01:16:41.060 like of all the ways to to describe it i don't think if a woman said to you oh it's very chubby

01:16:46.500 isn't it you'd actually be that flattered by that action adjective yeah yeah you'd have to take it in

01:16:54.660 the round um ha ha clinton dicks oh come on apparently this was uh quite well known as well uh football

01:17:04.500 player ha ha clinton dicks i mean that sounds sort of thing that gets you assassinated

01:17:08.500 harsh on trash what oh okay so that's also a nickname it was it's real it perhaps more absurdly

01:17:17.220 his real name was harsh on i've even seen other black americans take the mickey out of some of the

01:17:24.180 christian names black americans i think i've seen like chris rock right take the mickey out of or dave

01:17:28.900 chapelle or probably both joke about some of the absurd christian names some black americans give their

01:17:37.620 kids we were harsh on what are you talking about that's not right a woman carried nine months yes to

01:17:46.340 birth and then i'm gonna call him harsh on harsh on what's it worth it again it comes back to the you

01:17:52.420 you know you just just take a bit more time the cravings just take a bit more time was worth it

01:17:57.700 for my little there's nothing wrong with dave or chris no you don't don't have to don't go um

01:18:02.980 never go for harsh on i've now got for you um uh dick semen classic again um we we got uh stubby clap

01:18:13.300 quite a lot of american sports people steven sharts which sounds like a sentence from a three-year-old

01:18:22.260 book you know learning to read book all right this is steven steven waves steven sits down steven

01:18:30.980 sharts it's it's of that order again i don't know i don't know this trick this just does our puerile

01:18:36.740 lingo translate to the states again again they're probably confused by half these names it's like

01:18:40.900 what's the issue i don't know yeah uk humor or certainly my sense of humor is really puerile

01:18:47.060 yes oh yeah oh yes i find like the same things funny when i was like 11 i find funny now well

01:18:53.060 let's see the let's see this joke continues we've got dick hard here again not one of the ones i mind

01:18:59.700 the most um he was a is a tech entrepreneur entrepreneur or something um thomas crapper although apparently

01:19:08.660 um the i mean it's quite literally uh he he is what came first the chicken or the egg he he came

01:19:16.820 first right i was gonna yeah right i thought that was the case because he was the army engineer who

01:19:21.460 installed who installed the the lavatories around army bases and because of that we started calling it

01:19:28.740 the crap and he thought he was being clever by putting his branding on it but has just yeah

01:19:34.500 instead of securing his family legacy through everybody going to his business every time they

01:19:38.820 had latrine needs he just managed to get his family name covered in shit yeah quite literally

01:19:48.580 dick mountjoy why not quite a lot of these are tickling samson our producer i don't blame him

01:19:55.940 um major dicky head um and and there was an article here um talking about um his his export and what was

01:20:07.540 this the this is the suffolk gazette um and and they've got a bit on major dicky head um

01:20:16.100 assigned to basura b company first battalion the light infantry major head's leadership was nothing short of

01:20:21.940 extraordinary yet in true modesty the major claims his meticulous helmet polishing routine

01:20:28.020 was the real secret to his success on parade and then it makes another call back to that

01:20:34.100 um because apparently he's being presented to buckingham palace um

01:20:39.220 buckingham palace awaits uh but word has it his helmet will undergo another polishing marathon

01:20:44.420 i'm sure it's worthy of his majesty's gaze

01:20:51.060 yes did he win a medal then for gallantry or something why is why is he something like that

01:20:55.700 okay uh yeah but um i i hope i hope his majesty approved um uh what have we got now um dick long

01:21:05.860 big long um and and and dick long it's better than tiny cocks isn't it yes much better

01:21:11.060 and he was again another australian um um blah blah blah blah member of the liberal party to the

01:21:18.180 uh the victorian legislative account i i also found although i couldn't track down a picture for him

01:21:23.300 there was a judge a u.s county judge in america in the 1800s by the name of willie b short

01:21:30.100 to be fair and he was six foot seven to be well to be fair the b was literally just a b and short

01:21:40.180 had an e on the end but you if you were to you know move the you know oh yeah it would um uh what

01:21:46.180 have we got next um uh dr alfred wanklin why not you're gonna get taken seriously as a um as a

01:21:54.180 chemist with a name with a name like that jimmy wanklin this is one i found by myself actually um

01:22:01.460 i went to uh what's the big city manila in in the philippines and i came across this enormous

01:22:06.820 statue of cardinal sin oh i was to say that's what's so funny about james but he was a cardinal

01:22:15.380 so it's cardinal sin cardinals listen i wonder if they got the picture of the statue here but he's

01:22:20.020 got an enormous statue in oh there's no there's no picture he's got i mean if if you join the

01:22:26.180 church with a name like sin of course you're going to get promoted straight to cardinal almost

01:22:32.500 inevitably um did we have we done this guy oh that's the guy you were talking about general hooker

01:22:38.820 yeah he was i know all about him he's he was um really really important right so the he wasn't

01:22:44.980 just one of the dozens and dozens of generals he was super high up i mean he was one of the

01:22:51.860 most senior ones right yeah well it's good to be a general senior hooker um yeah i managed to

01:22:59.540 find a picture of um uh reverend cox the very reverend cox um this one um you're gonna have his

01:23:08.260 weapon quite yeah and the shotgun he's holding um i do apologize in advance for the next one if

01:23:17.140 you're of a sensitive disposition um please don't be drinking tea while i read out the name thank you

01:23:25.220 uh luscious pussy

01:23:26.740 yeah i feel like

01:23:34.660 this is that was that's that's contrived on in some way thank you for the warning um

01:23:40.740 no that's no i really i i i found a whole bunch of um you know sports bibliography things with him

01:23:47.460 but this is the only one i could find with a picture uh yeah luscious pussy i mean why not i mean

01:23:53.620 there's a lot of people where their name is so embarrassing that they get to adulthood and they

01:23:57.220 change it like frank zapper called one of his kids moon unit right yeah moon unit zapper i'm pretty sure

01:24:04.820 moon unit i changed his name in adulthood i would much rather be called moon unit than luscious pussy

01:24:11.060 but if it was me didn't david bowie have a kid he called zowie

01:24:16.020 zowie bowie again still better and he you think he grew up and changed his name to something normal yes

01:24:21.700 if i was if i was went around being my parents had called me luscious pussy

01:24:27.940 pretty sure i'd change it at my depot once i got older yeah yeah something else anything

01:24:32.980 else by the time by the time you got through your teenage years you've probably taken so much stick

01:24:37.300 that you're just fairly immune to it it's a bloke as well i mean yes i mean at least it's a bloke

01:24:42.260 at least it's a bloke yes it'd be worse if it was a woman i think it would be worse okay i think it

01:24:46.420 would be more embarrassing if if you were a lady and you had that as if he's a lady you could just yeah

01:24:50.420 it's just like that's like my actual prostitute name my street name what if you're not an actual

01:24:55.060 prostitute oh yeah i didn't think this through i hope you didn't become a teacher hello class

01:25:00.580 i'm no no he's again another sports person player he's got the thousand yard stare of someone who has

01:25:07.220 been bullied over it yes his whole life um again on the hooker theme uh fair hooker i mean that's a nice

01:25:14.900 name if there's that's the nicest hooker name we've had so far fair hooker it's like beautiful

01:25:19.860 prostitute sort of thing yeah well no just just fair not a clock watcher yeah fair deal yeah i couldn't

01:25:27.460 find a picture of the most perfectly named um corporate us attorney but it is of course sue you

01:25:34.580 she's an it is an attorney very interesting practicing attorney um but you know uh the the

01:25:43.620 perfect name you turn up as a defending you're like well i'm fucked yeah yeah um dick bender

01:25:52.900 don't know how he spent his time because we don't have all the details um on the page but um whatever it

01:25:58.980 was um that was his name like tiny cox or dick bender you would do something about it wouldn't

01:26:05.140 you well you just go by richard for a start for a start i mean just just that minimum hygiene level

01:26:11.140 um if you went to my school in the 1990s yeah and your surname was just bender your first name

01:26:17.060 was something normal like hey you for something but your surname was bender oh yes it would be all

01:26:23.060 day every day for five years yeah you would be getting bullied if your name was richard you wouldn't

01:26:27.460 you didn't rock up on day one call me dick yeah you're so confident you're so sigma that you just

01:26:33.860 yes my name is dick bender i accept all your i totally get i totally get the next one um uh jack off

01:26:46.740 who's he i was a touring car racer i feel like i've heard of him in our office we we have this this

01:26:52.820 calendar system that's to you know when people on the podcast and stuff like that and and when

01:26:57.780 somebody's off we we put at the top of it like carl off or dan off or whatever it is and we've got

01:27:03.540 an editor called jack and i giggle every single every single time he has a day off and i open the

01:27:10.020 calendar and it just says jack off i giggle i don't know if i'm the only one who does that or whether

01:27:16.340 there's just murmured giggling throughout the office every time somebody but you know this this guy's

01:27:21.220 got to carry that around um uh all the time um some i i don't have pictures quickly say with the g

01:27:29.300 as well it's like a new york accent or something as well it reminds me with jagov a jagov i think the

01:27:35.860 g is silent i think oh okay we can say the g silent okay i imagine so like like like nashu and nipper in

01:27:41.300 the beano that kind of thing yeah that would have been silent if his parents were around yes

01:27:46.580 yes i found some other ones which i could not find pictures for so you'll have to take from

01:27:53.300 my word for it sure um there was a kentucky sheriff called uh buck naked don't mind that one i think

01:28:00.900 i've heard that one before um there was in east sussex and i did find like um like electoral roll

01:28:07.940 stuff for these next three i couldn't find a picture or anything like that but fair enough

01:28:12.020 so in the in in the 1980s there was an east sussex town clerk by the name of mrs fanny batter

01:28:23.140 that's really embarrassing i mean that's like tiny cocks embarrassing like how could you go through

01:28:28.420 life there was a there was a door how could you there was a dorset councillor by the name of um

01:28:34.340 councillor roger gobbler could have been worse could have been richard yeah it was roger gobbler

01:28:41.860 so i think we let him off um and um in in the um complaints department of a council in the 1990s

01:28:50.020 there was mrs c minge um

01:28:56.580 did everybody choosing to go by the initial as well see

01:29:00.580 not katherine minge kathy minge no it's c minge um

01:29:03.860 katty ming i'm gonna round this one off with you know you know some sometimes you you life deals you

01:29:11.860 know a bit of a rough hand and you know you you go you go with the name you've got you build your

01:29:16.820 brand you build your business and i have to admire uh mr johnson the boat builder um who lent into this

01:29:23.860 and he um and he made this advert um pushing his boat service you've got your sunrise you caught a prize

01:29:34.740 you your mate and your johnson party nights summer whites you your friends and your johnson

01:29:42.740 rooster tales water trails you your kids and your johnson saturday nights distant lights you your

01:29:51.300 girl and your johnson you and your johnson a way of life for over 50 years

01:30:00.500 i'm feeling very inspired by that

01:30:04.740 all right some some some comments um there's there's a guy in the next town over named um richard head

01:30:12.020 uh yes his name is dicky head everybody calls him um uh nevermore says speaking of name changes

01:30:17.940 netanyahu's real name is milikovsky oh okay that's his polish pastiness oh that's interesting i didn't

01:30:24.740 know that um and siglestone can we can we scroll down on siglestone um oh yeah no oh where's he gone

01:30:33.220 okay all these names remind me of a joke from robin hood men in tights your family changed their name to

01:30:38.180 latrine yeah it used to be shithouse that's a good change

01:30:44.100 right uh excellent we got it oh we got some video people

01:30:49.700 do people in open relationships always look like that i'm being very as someone black and

01:30:55.620 attractive i why are you monogamous like no shade obviously i'm sorry

01:31:02.100 no because what do you mean

01:31:03.060 i don't know why but i like it

01:31:05.780 up douchebag um polyamorous person here

01:31:08.740 the reason why all poly people look the same to you is because they have the

01:31:12.180 take aside your personal feelings about polyamorous people or the decisions they make

01:31:23.860 yeah well they they certainly showed us open to everything but raising their own standards

01:31:28.740 i do feel like it really puts the zap on people's heads when they're ugly and they realize they're

01:31:34.900 ugly um i mean not i'm not saying i'm anything special right i know i'm like a six there's always

01:31:42.260 a six so nothing special just a normal random but if you're badly ugly yeah you're like polyamory

01:31:48.580 you're a two or a three and you you the whole world reconfirms to you every day that you're

01:31:53.620 or two i think you're a fine looking man it it must mess with your head though right

01:31:58.420 it must like you you would go into different places in your mind about i'm not trying to excuse

01:32:05.140 it or anything but yeah it's you know like the people that will never ever get laid so they say

01:32:10.340 they're gay right yeah sorry no i i was right i realized i'm giving you nothing back it's just

01:32:18.180 because my head is still stuck in your segment and my name is just a sip of names just

01:32:25.140 recycled on repeat i'm sorry um we're not going to get chucked out of here are we mr producer can

01:32:30.340 we got time we can read some comments can't we yeah go on then thanks uh okay so from uh my segment

01:32:38.660 uh lord and quister hex says giving trump the noble priest uh peace prize would immediately shut

01:32:44.020 obama up about uh his and i think trump wants that i mean maybe but it's a lot to do just to own obama

01:32:52.580 isn't it yeah um yeah it is uh michael uh dribelwis says obama got the peace prize for not being

01:33:00.740 george but george bush uh obama had no achievements prior or even during his presidency yep very true

01:33:07.380 uh lancelot ah night uh night of the realm good to see you uh i'm surprised donald simply hasn't

01:33:12.900 created his own trump peace prize that does feel like the way to do that yeah the um like the obama

01:33:19.300 meme where it's just him giving himself a medal medal of honor but with trump uh and then sophia

01:33:25.300 lives says i would absolutely take a knighthood just so i can insist that people call me lady uh sophia

01:33:31.780 of daneland well actually you'd be dame sophia of daneland so the dame of the danes sophia i'd quite

01:33:37.940 like to pull a lawrence of arabia i'll turn up to the palace yeah i'll let uh charles pin it on me

01:33:43.940 and the second his hand comes away just take it off drop it on the floor and walk out

01:33:50.980 now you can keep your medal what i love about that story as well apparently george v took that

01:33:55.540 in quite good humor yeah but the queen alexandra was seething it's just like you're not going to

01:34:00.180 take that are you george he's like that's just funny lawrence didn't actually drop it on the floor but

01:34:04.260 he just unpinned it from himself immediately yes um anyway uh do you want me to read some comments

01:34:09.940 from yours bro yeah if you wouldn't mind yeah uh so again uh michael says if trump was on the list

01:34:14.820 it would have been leaked by uh meritless garland or any number of the members of the press corps

01:34:21.540 sure yeah i feel like trump if i had to again put money on it i've got no real insight i would have

01:34:26.260 thought trump was one of those people that had met epstein a number of times knew who he was even like

01:34:32.180 maybe not a close friend but just like an acquaintance but yet didn't go to that island

01:34:39.220 and engage in sex crime didn't go to his house all the time and engage in sex crime

01:34:44.660 i imagine that's what trump is i'm like elon like you turn up to a party and galaine maxwell's there

01:34:50.740 you know who she is she's a famous socialite he's friends with the royal family and the daughter of

01:34:56.020 robert maxwell she comes over to you stands next to you someone takes a picture

01:34:59.620 yeah what are you gonna do doesn't mean anything does it it doesn't mean anything you didn't do

01:35:03.860 anything wrong i think there'll be a lot of people that that that sort of thing applies to i've had

01:35:09.780 that when i've been out and about people wanted to take pictures of me and i'm always thinking like

01:35:12.740 well what if you what if you turn out to be like a school shooter or something next week it's like

01:35:16.580 this is going to look really bad for me well what if your career as a serial killer is exposed at

01:35:21.380 some point they'll be really embarrassed yeah yeah it works well yeah quite yeah worked for you

01:35:25.620 though didn't it and getting in the hope not hate report yes yes yeah it worked out in your favor

01:35:30.500 then yes glad uh and then uh potato joe says there's been 10 years to destroy evidence uh saying there's

01:35:37.700 no evidence could literally mean there's no evidence um there's that as well i'm sure some will have been

01:35:43.700 destroyed but we had basically had confirmation not long ago that they're what they were looking

01:35:48.260 through evidence so both in the galane case and what pan bondi had said suggests yeah that until

01:35:56.980 recently but it's fair point it's a good point yes uh dan do you want to go through some of your

01:36:02.100 comments uh mannequin says i was serving a few years overseas with a yank officer called captain bender

01:36:07.860 uh who then got promoted to major bender okay i had to explain to the u.s med team i was working with

01:36:13.700 why the british contingent were barely holding it back with the promotion of major bender yeah i think the

01:36:17.940 americans are not going to get a lot of this so so for example i mean i i remember working in

01:36:22.100 working what some city firm and we were doing not not quite a merger but we're doing a piece of

01:36:26.580 business a major piece of business with a u.s firm and the american contingent come over and then we're

01:36:32.420 kind of lining up and meeting all of them and we and we and we're going down shaking hands and stuff

01:36:36.820 and we get to one guy and um he he just introduced himself as bj oh yeah yeah and like all of us

01:36:44.740 brits are like come again mate yeah hi i'm bj and it's just like and all the americans were just

01:36:51.860 stony faced like yeah his name's bj what what but anyway there was an mma fighter what was it bj pen

01:37:01.140 bj pen yeah it's like yeah they don't get it it's like yeah what's wrong with that going with that

01:37:05.460 are you perfectly fine the guy who uh sung uh raindrops keep falling on my head his name was bj

01:37:11.140 thomas yes not an issue i don't know if they got our segment at all but anyway just reminds me of the

01:37:17.700 the biggest dicker scene in life of brian yeah but that's mild compared to some of these but like

01:37:23.220 no matter how many times i watched that scene it's never not funny i still laugh at it as much as i did

01:37:28.580 the first time i watched it there must be some people out there called john thomas as well did

01:37:33.380 you not find any actual john thomases to be honest after a couple of hours i had enough okay i had

01:37:39.940 a fair dose um annie emos says hookers were named after the people following general hooker in the

01:37:46.020 civil war where did where did yes that's right i know where hooker comes from it's to do with joseph hooker

01:37:52.660 so there was one city i can't remember where it was in the south uh whether it was richmond i was

01:37:58.740 wouldn't have been richmond somewhere else in the south yeah and the the uh the union take it and all

01:38:05.860 the uh promiscuous women of the night they were just being extremely rude and abusive if not mildly

01:38:12.260 violent to some of the soldiers and joseph hooker says if i catch any woman doing that i'm going to sort

01:38:19.860 of treat you with sort of military severeness like you're going to be in big trouble if not sort of

01:38:25.140 hung or whatever if i see you like throwing tiles off a roof at our soldiers or anything like that

01:38:29.380 right properly bad and i think i think from then on they were known as hookers after joseph hooker

01:38:35.620 i might be wrong about that maybe that is possibly yeah and that'll be the 1860s so it wasn't if that's

01:38:42.740 true yes it wasn't a thing before the 1860s i think i saw somebody in the chat was by saying something like

01:38:48.420 originally hookers was people who hooked bits of stone off lakes or something like that i'd

01:38:53.700 maybe something like that um az desertrass says my uh paternal grandmother's name was boner

01:38:59.380 my sister had to had a teacher tried to convince her it was french and pronounced bonnet bonnet oh

01:39:06.740 classic yeah no it wasn't mrs bucket it's bouquet vicar yes yeah the classic bouquet and and that texas

01:39:13.220 says i appreciate the more light-hearted uh podcast uh today amidst the doom and gloom yes

01:39:19.140 well for my part i can only apologize for that last segment yes uh well yes well anyway that's all

01:39:26.340 we've got time for today ladies and gentlemen thank you for joining us uh you can catch us uh 1pm

01:39:32.180 tomorrow on the podcast go home enjoy your day and be very glad that your name isn't tiny cox

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 08, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1203

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