The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1207

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the load seaters episode 1207 for monday the 14th of june

00:00:15.640 2025 i'm your host luke joined today by special guest and friend of the show lewis brackpool how

00:00:21.500 are you sir i'm very well thanks good to finally do a segment it's first time it's been a while

00:00:26.240 because we were on the panels together back during the general election and the uh the live stream for

00:00:32.400 uh yeah u.s election you were here for that as well weren't you i believe so yeah but it's first

00:00:36.920 time being on the podcast together so no wonderful to have you here thanks man um so today we're going

00:00:42.300 to be covering the rot that is the british honor system uh but then we're also going to have a

00:00:49.700 something a bit more cheery for you and celebrate the birthday of england and then after that we're

00:00:55.740 going to talk about the gamers rising up uh the greatest revolution of the 21st century of course

00:01:03.020 no doubt no doubt at all uh so with that all said let's begin so the british honor system is one of

00:01:12.140 those on the face of it quite beautiful mythic aspects of british society you know when you think

00:01:20.740 of um you know kneeling yeah yeah the sword on both shoulders and you arise a knight of the realm

00:01:27.660 yes right speaks to a truly mythical spiritual past yeah definitely right there's something really to

00:01:33.600 that there's a lot of thick concepts to it and it all falls into that thing that is part of the deep

00:01:39.260 magic of england and it's also something that other countries in europe don't get to experience

00:01:46.500 right they don't enjoy it the french happy bastille day by the way oh yeah france you don't get to do

00:01:52.420 that because you had a bastille day right there are no knights in france anymore rep night of the

00:01:58.880 republic uh although that was a good star wars game actually the old republic but um but anyway but so

00:02:06.300 now you end up with things like this arise sadiq khan uh london's mayor now obviously this is a fairly

00:02:13.420 recent story but it's not exactly new news you've probably all seen this before but i wanted to use

00:02:19.460 it as an example of the secularization of what is essentially a spiritual practice yes right because

00:02:26.320 it shouldn't actually be theoretically possible for a muslim to be a knight right because it is innately 1.00

00:02:33.940 a christian concept yes yes very right that ties into european christian themes of chivalry

00:02:39.540 uh and yet he was simply made a knight of the realm because there isn't actually any uh any criteria

00:02:48.700 that you actually have to fit now other than the authority of the british state the secular british

00:02:56.120 state that is entirely obviously enveloped in uh multiculturalism and the multicultural project

00:03:03.900 and so you see this more and more now that it constantly just awards minorities for simply kind

00:03:11.280 of existing it's almost become a kind of pantomime now right um it's a bit like it reminds me of like

00:03:18.360 the commonwealth and and lots of other things that we had as tradition but now it's it's become

00:03:23.820 like why are we putting one foot in one foot out when it's it's the past of the empire right

00:03:29.640 um so that's how i view it now is a bit of a bit of a pantomime and that's sad really because like

00:03:36.880 you said it has such spiritual and big meaning to it from you know days past but not anymore not

00:03:43.800 anymore no and when sadi khan said about this he said obviously from my background being the son of

00:03:49.060 immigrants my parents coming here from pakistan it's a big deal to us right so that's what he said

00:03:54.180 in in reaction to this and you can see what that that means it's you know in some way him becoming

00:03:59.200 a knight you know he sees that as like being accepted by the system right right he's being

00:04:07.180 accepted by the establishment obviously you and i know better and know that he is he is the

00:04:14.060 establishment yeah exactly there is nothing counter in the politics of sadiq khan and that is the

00:04:20.320 symbolism of what this is now in the modern time yes yes it is so then you obviously have things

00:04:27.620 like this because it's not just knights we also have um let's say smaller not in an insulting way

00:04:34.120 but um you know a member of um british empire and order of the garter all the all these different

00:04:40.820 honors and you have one here for yeah an mbe for mubeen hussein who led a muslim community boycott

00:04:49.380 of south yorkshire police after the rotherham grooming abuse scandal and has been awarded an

00:04:55.580 mbe for services to integration and cohesion it's just a joke it's like um they made was it it was

00:05:03.180 it rotherham the uh the place for children and culture was it oh um city of culture city of culture

00:05:10.100 yeah yeah that was last year or the one before yeah yeah it's just an extra insult

00:05:15.060 yeah an extra insult um he called on muslims to sever ties with uh uh south yorkshire police

00:05:22.720 and take all the necessary action to protect ourselves uh back in 2015 obviously meaning

00:05:29.120 the muslim community community to shield them from the backlash right uh of what those from within

00:05:36.940 their community had obviously been doing to these young girls and his group warned that any muslim

00:05:42.740 groups or institutions in rotherham that do not adhere to this policy of disengagement will also

00:05:49.180 be boycotted by the muslim community itself wow right so but like total ethnic you are with us or 0.86

00:05:58.080 you're against us so bad you're with us or you're a traitor to your people rhetoric uh and yeah as you 0.96

00:06:04.900 can see so he's going to be getting an mbe he's going to be getting an mbe great start to the

00:06:12.340 monday morning eh yeah sorry about all that um well like i said this is why it's the first segment yeah

00:06:18.360 yeah yeah yeah rip this bandaid off and then we'll we'll get to something a lot more fun yeah but

00:06:23.200 obviously it's not just politicians and community leaders as well there is you know a massive propaganda

00:06:29.900 underarm uh in terms of cultural power uh films music all these sorts of things as well uh took up

00:06:38.760 one our um editor samson's tweet here from a while back you might remember this uh film turning up on

00:06:44.980 apple tv blitz and you may notice something slightly historically inaccurate uh about the cover to this

00:06:54.080 but obviously this film was directed by steve mcqueen okay uh british film director sir steve mcqueen

00:07:03.000 in fact even though he was also the director of uh such things as 12 years a slave ah yes right

00:07:11.500 and so he and from reading what he uh talks about the films that he engages with and the fact that you

00:07:18.400 know when you look at that one like the blitz it was more well obviously i just wanted more

00:07:23.000 representation for my people right it's about inserting them we've always been an island of

00:07:28.000 immigrants we've always been here um and obviously those sorts of politics again are rewarded with 0.75

00:07:34.960 with knighthoods even though he's an enormous race baiter well like we were talking about it's 0.64

00:07:41.500 it's now that honor system as a whole has turned into a welcome to the establishment as opposed to

00:07:49.740 this is what it used to represent and hit the nail on the head there so um also obviously let's not

00:07:57.020 forget the great contributions to music uh the such men like stormzy of uh you a stormzy fan lewis

00:08:05.160 uh no i'm not no personally not i do like i must admit i i do like some like grime weirdly i know

00:08:14.480 very strangely i do like some of it because it reminds me of like the old punk sort of stuff

00:08:19.380 some of it i don't mind um but i'm not a stormzy fan no and i think he did say something recently

00:08:25.680 uh that caused a bit of a commotion online and i think um rafe is it manku uh called him out to a

00:08:34.140 debate on the british empire and all of that that's yet to happen but i would love to see that that would

00:08:39.960 be really good fun well as a an honorary doctorate of cambridge i'm sure that stormzy will have all the

00:08:48.180 necessary knowledge historical facts i'd love to see it and uh and know how to single-handedly dash

00:08:54.880 rafe in that debate yes no doubt about it but uh so what was uh what was it to do with with stormzy

00:09:02.600 you know why is he so worthy of receiving this honorary doctorate well at cambridge he also set

00:09:10.060 up the stormzy scholarship uh which is entirely designed for basically getting uh more black 0.95

00:09:17.680 applicants into cambridge so again just even when they say it's about well it is all about again

00:09:25.580 rewarding people for working towards a multicultural project right just getting more of the different 0.99

00:09:33.960 races who are now in britain into the institutions into positions of power where they can of course

00:09:40.220 send snowball and avalanche 20 years down the line and be in the institutions that are really going to

00:09:46.000 be deciding the direction of this country so throwing out meritocracy with something completely different

00:09:51.540 well and also just throwing it um out in terms of a politics that we're simply not allowed to do

00:09:58.840 uh because stormzy just looks at you know the young black kids and he goes i'm responsible for them

00:10:05.920 right he's not responsible for the white working class kids feels no even though they're you know

00:10:11.620 not exactly likely to end up going to cambridge either yes right stats yeah but um but that doesn't

00:10:18.020 matter right it's not about that it's about again it's about racial loyalty yeah right it's about

00:10:23.860 racial loyalty sad uh with these sorts of people and so then let's begin to talk a little bit about the 0.89

00:10:31.500 house of lords now you said to me that you um letting it slip you you might have some aspirations to

00:10:39.620 become lord brackburn i i it's it's a very new thing i i've been thinking recently because some

00:10:47.960 people have asked would you get into politics and i've said yes um i've had conversations with

00:10:53.160 friends who have also said that they would um time is running out with that sort of thing i don't i

00:11:01.600 don't know if i'd be a good mp however i have liked the idea of getting into the house of lords even

00:11:08.800 though that i want it abolished so you know it's quite uh it's quite an interesting guy fawkes wanted to

00:11:15.480 get into the house of parliament didn't even i mean what well like i just the thing is i i don't know

00:11:23.180 there's something there's something about it i think as much as i do want it abolished i think with

00:11:29.320 lots of legislation that is being passed through now um you know the assisted dying um the recent

00:11:36.280 abortion um bill as well that's been expanded uh you know lots of different things all to do with

00:11:42.940 civil liberties you know freedom of speech all of that i i do see i i do see how important this is

00:11:50.040 right now in this but we want to get to a point where we don't need it we don't want another tony

00:11:55.880 blair institution we want to start rolling back and i feel i i would like to in my later years do

00:12:03.280 something like this i don't know how i don't know how it's possible because i'm not very well liked by

00:12:09.140 these guys so you know it would be quite a fun little probably because you you pestered them

00:12:15.040 like andy dufray in uh shawshank redemption just sending them a freedom of information request

00:12:20.120 every week i see it and i don't get very fond of that but yeah imagine like effort i just thinking

00:12:25.680 of it through fois like imagine being in there and being able to you know get some more important

00:12:31.300 information out to the public that's how i see it and yeah well what what you say about the house of

00:12:37.280 lords being a blairite creation of course the house of lords is much older than that but you're

00:12:43.020 absolutely right in the sense that the house of lords is just another institution that blair

00:12:49.460 just grabbed grabbed and changed to his own image for his own purposes because as you can see here

00:12:56.800 uh back in the 1999 uh so when i was two uh there was um a bill put through the house of lords bill

00:13:06.240 which was basically used to uh remove a lot of the hereditary peers yes like the landed gentry 0.99

00:13:13.300 yes of england uh to be replaced with more and more you know blairite disciples and cameron globalists

00:13:21.980 yeah and cameron went on to do this too of course cameron put in people like uh baroness warsey 0.89

00:13:28.160 right who now sits in the house of lords friend of the english always been our ally uh never done

00:13:34.760 anything to try and subvert us ever right um but it's part of that thing that so we're we're

00:13:40.300 replacing the landing gentry of england the old hereditary class with people from the new multicultural 0.99

00:13:47.300 the new uk yeah modern britain uk aesthetics the uk lords yeah lords of the uk um so it's but also i

00:13:58.040 think it comes down to another point about the house of lords as well is that actually

00:14:03.380 on the face of it i don't disagree with the idea of having a second chamber right that is

00:14:11.420 uh of the hereditary peers right because the argument was well it's it's not democratic

00:14:16.720 right you get this argument a lot where it's like well isn't it good because when you've got all of the

00:14:22.120 mps who were you know constantly thinking about just saying whatever they need to say to get

00:14:27.520 re-elected the next time once you remove that anxiety away you can have in theory a chamber

00:14:33.920 that can dedicate itself more to some long-term planning because it's not constantly thinking

00:14:38.880 about the next election cycle or what donors do i need to compromise myself with in order to gain

00:14:46.980 that influence so i do think there is some merit to that but of course i also won't pretend that um

00:14:54.580 historically speaking the house of lords has always uh not been open to corruption and abuse

00:15:01.340 uh i can't help but think about back when i was um doing an epoch with beau all about um

00:15:07.220 pitt the younger right when he was prime minister and uh one of the plans that he and king george had

00:15:13.180 in order to cement pitt's power in parliament was just to absolutely open the peerages right to

00:15:21.060 just put all of their friends yeah yeah in the house of lords uh to get them through that way so that

00:15:28.300 he could pass everything through the second chamber very very easily so again i'm not going to pretend

00:15:33.900 it's a perfect system but um it was still better but it was still better than before blair i agree

00:15:41.180 right it was still better than before blair i do agree uh then you have other lords ah yes like lord

00:15:47.160 hermer uh he's been making the news recently yes now he actually only received his peerage last month

00:15:54.220 oh was it only last month yeah from what i can tell it was uh last july but obviously he was uh in

00:16:01.580 uh the headlines recently for uh well as we can see here uh saying that it's disgusting to say that the uk

00:16:08.560 has a two-tier justice system if he's saying that then great well exactly um i mean genric robert

00:16:17.560 genric is doing fantastic work recently when he was talking about you know the kind of people he was

00:16:22.920 representing uh and there seems to be some weird because i'm pretty sure isn't it usually assigned

00:16:30.220 so you don't really get to choose is that how it usually works with i know we're going into a

00:16:35.400 completely different subject but with the justice system aren't you like given you're not you're not

00:16:42.220 supposed to pick or is that i don't want to speak with authority on that because i couldn't yeah

00:16:47.820 oh yeah i'm not sure uh but if someone in the comments knows do do please let us know um but yeah

00:16:53.180 he said such as um i think it's offensive to our police it's offensive to our crown prosecution uh

00:16:59.100 crown prosecutors uh who are trying to apply the law in the best faith uh it's offensive to the

00:17:05.820 courts where the independent judges are applying the law to reach the right sentences um we don't

00:17:11.860 have a two-tier justice system we have a one justice system that is an independent justice system

00:17:17.960 and i think we all need to get behind it not seek to undermine it oh yeah let's just all get behind it

00:17:23.760 you know jailing people for mean tweets brilliant it's an independent justice system that just happens

00:17:30.380 to always come down on the side of uh people of particular backgrounds and right particular uh again

00:17:39.520 human rights whoever the human rights lawyers most favor

00:17:44.540 it's just it's tiresome and like i said i think going back to the generic um chilling

00:17:54.000 sound like i'm generic chilling now um i think he's been doing fantastic work on trying to talk about

00:18:01.040 this sort of subject as well and there's lots of others that have been doing exactly the same but

00:18:04.600 i've been very impressed recently and you know getting getting this guy in the headlines i think he's

00:18:10.060 can only be a good thing well indeed i mean he uh but also it's that thing that it's like well he

00:18:16.000 who are the some of the people that he's associated with well he did stand up in court on behalf of

00:18:22.280 liberty uh the human rights um activists um and basically tried to defend shemima begum's right to

00:18:30.820 stay in the uk of course jerry adams as well jerry adams yeah another famous fan of britain uh that he uh

00:18:39.080 he helped to defend uh well not defend but who he has associations with and then but then from

00:18:45.200 you get those enemies of britain right you get people like warsey and hermer who just obviously

00:18:52.600 seem to keep there's a pattern of them making decisions that constantly make britain a more

00:18:58.500 dangerous place and they're then rewarded for it with peerages but then you also get absolutely

00:19:05.480 mind-boggling ones like this you might remember from a few years ago the charlotte owen uh becoming

00:19:11.640 a baroness she was 30 at the time wow making her the youngest uh in the country and it was really

00:19:21.300 really vague as to why she got it she was one of the ones that boris johnson gave a peerage to

00:19:27.320 on his way out uh presumably for being a very um very talented aid right um instrumental in just

00:19:38.600 organizing his never day-to-day affairs never heard of no right and i just i don't know it doesn't

00:19:47.360 is being helpful to boris yeah worthy of a worthy of a life peerage yeah because i'm pretty sure

00:19:55.620 usually you're you're given a peerage correct me if i'm wrong you're giving a you're given a peerage

00:20:01.480 if you've made a substantial contribution to society which is why they're generally reserved for people

00:20:07.780 who are older which is why the average age of a peer in the house of lords is 71 yeah right yeah yeah

00:20:14.700 yeah you're supposed to have done something with your life yeah exactly um so that's bizarre but there's a

00:20:22.740 lot of uh them like these and let's not forget as well that uh jake bruce mogg pretty patel

00:20:29.240 honored in boris johnson's resignation lists as well so pretty patel you can reside over 0.98

00:20:35.640 the boris wave uh-huh and become a dame right just it's like there's no at what point does it's like

00:20:45.060 well you occupied this position right because this is another thing it's kind of just become a theme

00:20:50.320 these days uh a reoccurring almost like incestuous little institutional tradition of itself that just

00:20:58.840 by being prime minister you are entitled to a knighthood doesn't matter if you were one of the

00:21:05.080 worst prime ministers this country's ever seen doesn't matter if you were um tony blair boris

00:21:12.100 johnson you know they uh they're just able to keep pumping out all of these knighthoods and well i

00:21:19.260 mean i was going to skip ahead of it no it's fine i'll i'll leave it you know people like jeremy hunt

00:21:24.220 yeah yeah as well so people who said why aren't we just one for one copying the chinese lockdown i was

00:21:30.480 about to say that yeah i was about to say that took the words right out of my mouth oh i'm sorry

00:21:34.840 no no no it's good that's a very important quote to bring up especially with hunt and um

00:21:40.840 you know you hear you hear stuff like that during the height and absolutely everything and

00:21:47.800 i mean i we don't even need to go into too much detail about you know china and its civil liberty

00:21:53.340 problems um it just does my head again does my head in knight of the realm yeah while seemingly

00:22:03.000 having a fetish for for an ancient realm over in the far east right just doesn't work just doesn't

00:22:11.160 work jeremy give it back no yeah oh yeah gove gove gets a peerage do you feel better do you trust

00:22:19.380 the institutions more lewis knowing that my lord gove is in um no i think i'm apparently

00:22:30.920 uh i think i'm correct in saying that there is a particular debate i'm not sure if it's public

00:22:36.980 knowledge yet so i don't know whether i can go into detail all right but there is a debate that

00:22:41.680 is going to be happening soon i believe gove is moderating between a friend of ours and uh another

00:22:49.320 person within conservative space um and i'm very interested to see how that's going to go i don't

00:22:55.680 know if it's public knowledge yet so i don't want to say it yeah all right give it away yeah sure sure

00:22:59.380 um hmm be interesting it will be but yeah let's not forget as well that this is um you know according

00:23:08.300 to the folklore of modern england uh this is a man that when uh jonathan bowden approached him and said

00:23:15.340 what are we going to do about mass immigration uh gove gove simply said oh it wouldn't be british to

00:23:22.020 do anything about it just let it continue this was back in the 90s wow right apparently so again

00:23:30.400 gove is just someone who has been a creature he's just the creature of the establishment right and

00:23:36.260 has been certainly the creature of the tory party didn't nadine doris write extensively in her book

00:23:42.800 about gove right i haven't read it so many of the problems begin with gove well not begin but are

00:23:49.600 always exacerbated exacerbated by gove that's interesting i must read that and obviously

00:23:55.140 most infamously of all in recent memory we of course have the knighthood of sir tony blair

00:24:01.960 the dark lord himself wow one million right and even though there was a petition that passed one

00:24:09.500 million signatures crazy it wasn't enough to rescind it because your consent does not matter doesn't

00:24:16.160 matter does not matter whatsoever right and so it's one of those things where um one of the

00:24:23.640 gravest insults about all of this as well of course is that there are um some people genuine

00:24:30.220 entrepreneurs general yeah pillars of the community people who have really done something uh of pure

00:24:36.700 interest who have you know contributed to uh the greatness of britain who have also received knighthoods

00:24:43.660 of course in our lifetime and it's really irritating because they're now mangled of you know that is

00:24:51.360 mingled amongst people who are totally unworthy of it it's more of an establishment club now which is

00:24:58.560 such a shame it's such a shame and it's um you know like we've spoken about during this whole segment

00:25:05.840 the spirit of it you know it's part of our lineage heritage whether you agree i don't i'm not a royalist

00:25:12.000 not any of that um i'm not interested so oliver cromwell i'm not interested in any of that i i'm

00:25:19.800 but to see our institutions our lineage heritage everything just be molded into this blob this

00:25:29.980 globalist blob where it's become a more of a club as opposed to you know english tradition

00:25:36.180 it just makes me it just it just upsets me a bit well um but this is the way that we're going and

00:25:42.900 we're kind of powerless all we can do is really talk about it all we can do is sign one million

00:25:49.160 yeah petitions signature petitions to get thrown out yeah um but that's the thing isn't it you go

00:25:54.400 through all these things you can be responsible for mass immigration yeah you can you can act war

00:25:59.380 the iraq war you can actively uh tell your fellow uh ethno-religious comrades yeah not to engage with

00:26:08.200 the police and you can be rewarded for it you can advocate for the most totalitarian lockdowns

00:26:14.020 and you can be rewarded for it push for digital identification and a social credit system on

00:26:19.560 the entire populace still even after quitting politics

00:26:24.380 all to rub the right's noses right but um you know i i like to believe that that which has been

00:26:33.820 given can be taken away and uh perhaps in the future it just might be get me into the house of

00:26:41.500 lords i'll start uh i'll start repealing and doing my bit helping i'll uh go through some of the uh

00:26:48.100 rumble rants the engaged few says that picture would be so much better if charles was swinging

00:26:53.180 that sword well it does look a bit like the uh the count dooku uh the count dooku clip doesn't it

00:26:59.700 uh the engaged few also says how the hell do you boycott the police refuse to obey the laws

00:27:05.140 they're already doing that uh and have uh been since they landed on english shores that's the problem

00:27:11.620 well of course i quite agree and habsification says it's a classic case of nepotism and wearing the

00:27:17.500 skinsuit of the institution after destroying it uh these people demand respect and status while

00:27:23.100 simultaneously destroying its value yeah very well said habsification all right lewis right cheer 0.75

00:27:30.700 me up yeah we're gonna try and uh be if i can get the mouse thing over we'll get there you see here

00:27:38.140 we go yep okay happy birthday england so we're gonna do for once i've never done a positive

00:27:46.140 thing so i hope this goes well so you don't know how to it's his first time it's my first time being

00:27:52.220 positive guys so you know please bear with me but um england had its birthday recently on i would say

00:28:00.860 the 12th of july i think that should become some kind of holiday or something because it isn't

00:28:05.180 uh where 927 a.d which is its 1098th birthday after uh king ethelstein ethelstan sorry not stein um

00:28:19.180 the grandson of alfred the great defeated its rival kingdom such as the great heathen army the vikings

00:28:27.100 and the danes uh the anglo-saxon kingdoms to unite them including mercia east anglia northumbria kent

00:28:34.940 and sussex and so i thought it would be really fun and appropriate to celebrate obviously england

00:28:42.540 and its biggest achievements that have changed the world from this tiny country so i've only got 10

00:28:49.100 it's quite a lot but i think we can get through it anything you want to add anything you want to

00:28:54.140 correct just in case i've got anything wrong be ready um there'll be history buffs in the

00:28:59.420 comments no doubt they'll be there ready with the keyboard so all is good so the first one i

00:29:05.660 thought that we could celebrate is common law very big laid the foundation for modern legal systems in

00:29:12.060 over 80 countries uh rooted in precedent and rights common law is england's legal legacy foundational to

00:29:20.460 justice systems in the united states canada australia and beyond and common law originated in england

00:29:27.820 after the norman conquest of 1066 under william the conqueror where he unified diverse local customs

00:29:35.100 into a national legal system common law is a judge made law courts rely on previous rule rulings to

00:29:44.220 decide current cases creating a consistent evolving legal system now i say this with a really tight smile

00:29:51.500 because we know what the country's going like at the minute and we recently had the news they want to

00:29:55.740 give is it juries as well yeah so that's i don't think that's good personally um and unlike civil law

00:30:03.020 used in used much of in europe uh common law isn't based on a codified set of statuses but evolves through

00:30:11.420 judicial decisions so i think that's something to really celebrate from england yeah i i entirely agree

00:30:18.380 with you it's uh although as you say it's one of those things that um well i should come back at you

00:30:25.580 on what you were saying that about obviously there is concern about what the future of the common law

00:30:31.660 of course is but that that uh that the nature of it being decided by precedent uh was that's a great victory

00:30:41.740 when you look at things such as um shemima begum being made stateless right if we're talking about

00:30:47.740 precedent that's a pretty good one for the future and you get you do get some people that do actually

00:30:54.700 take the common law so i i do recommend looking into it it's quite a a gray topic for myself um but

00:31:02.300 it's a topic that i think is very important some people though have taken it and gone a bit too far with

00:31:07.580 it you know don't go to a bank take out all money put like you know buy a ferrari then leave it on your

00:31:13.260 drive and say common law you know don't do that please um don't advocate for that uh but that moves

00:31:19.740 on to the next part which is magna carta which uh let me just bring that up magna carta of 1215

00:31:29.420 very important the first document to limit the power of the crown under law uh it birthed

00:31:34.940 constitutionalism and inspired the united states once again uh the constitution uh the un charters

00:31:42.140 and what you think of them now global human rights movements when they used to be good so

00:31:47.980 what you're saying is the magna carta was a mistake you could say that it's actually so there's from

00:31:55.420 what i understand there's four surviving copies yes of the magna carta yes and i've i've had the

00:32:00.860 privilege of seeing three of them really there's the two in the british library uh one in salisbury

00:32:06.940 cathedral which is one i haven't seen and the one at lincoln castle that's awesome and so and when you

00:32:14.060 just stare at that and yeah there is something truly like well they magical man yeah 800 year old

00:32:21.100 piece of parchment and yeah it's quite extraordinary also one thing as well about the the magna carta as

00:32:28.140 well is the fact that it also spawns from the uh there was a charter by uh henry the first as well

00:32:37.900 i can't remember the name of it off the top of my head forgive me again perhaps someone in the comments

00:32:41.740 will uh but really it's about trying to keep the spirit of the the the ancient english freedoms yes

00:32:49.820 intact right those those those ancient liberties of the english um that were just taken as a given

00:32:58.780 back in old england before the norman conquest now codified you know so that the norman class

00:33:07.020 is also well the norman king also just one more thing to say about the magna carta as well just from

00:33:11.820 a historical point of view which is that if john wasn't such a terrible king right if john was just 0.90

00:33:20.460 mediocre or a little bit crap right we probably wouldn't have it right it took something truly

00:33:27.500 terrible it took a true tyranny yeah to bring something something quite that's something to be 0.87

00:33:34.540 said i would say that's something to be said that's it's a lesson for all ages it's a lesson for all ages

00:33:40.460 exactly and england has been through terrible times up and down throughout its history so that's why i'm

00:33:47.740 always optimistic considering civil liberties you know mass migration culture heritage all of these

00:33:55.500 topics and today in 2025 it's never too late you know so i i'm always optimistic i know it's easy to get

00:34:04.380 blackpilled no blackpilling so you know everything will be fine i think in the end uh i've got here

00:34:12.060 written down yeah king john of england was forced to sign the magna carta by rebellious barons at a

00:34:17.580 meadow called runnymede near the river thames um it wasn't meant to be a founding document but was a

00:34:24.860 desperate compromise between a weak king and angry nobles meant to avoid civil war uh clause 39 famously states

00:34:34.220 no man no free man shall be seized or imprisoned except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by

00:34:41.180 the law of the land and this planted the seed for the rule of law that even monarchs must obey legal

00:34:47.740 limits i know i know now i know the prince yeah go for it oh i was uh i was just going to say as well

00:34:55.980 that um so john when he originally gave this his seal back in 2015 he had no intention of honoring his

00:35:04.140 word he was basically uh sure that the pope would annul it for him and then of course when the pope

00:35:11.020 innocent the third did void magna carta well it wasn't me it was yeah it wasn't me yeah that's where

00:35:19.260 you know enter sir william marshall to go back to the earlier segment if we're talking about knights of the

00:35:24.700 realm sir william marshall is the greatest knight who ever lived right his story his history bow did

00:35:32.300 an epochs on him you should go check it out yeah uh but he is one of my favorite people in all of

00:35:38.380 english history yeah he lived the most extraordinary life he served five different kings of england

00:35:44.540 he he lived to be about 72 he went on crusade he fought in he was uh the veteran and victor of over

00:35:52.620 500 against 500 opponents in tourneys and melees he was honestly and you know the guy who is really

00:36:01.180 responsible for why we still have the magna carta now and saved us from a french invasion so he was

00:36:06.460 basically the perfect man the perfect knight that's awesome i need to look into that i don't i didn't know

00:36:11.900 about that um habeas corpus uh came from it uh the idea that you can't be imprisoned without being

00:36:20.300 charged traces back to clause 39 and its focus on lawful detention it became a symbol of liberty

00:36:26.700 worldwide through written uh though written for elite landowners uh magna carta evolved into a global

00:36:34.540 symbol of freedom uh inspiring uh revolutions reforms and movements from england to america

00:36:41.820 the next one it's a pretty obvious one the english language uh

00:36:48.700 it is i think it matters so much the english language being biased sorry about that um it is the

00:36:56.380 dominant language of science diplomacy trade media and the internet and god and god god spoke english

00:37:07.020 i don't make the laughing out there as well

00:37:11.180 um rooted in anglo-saxon enriched by empire solidified by cultural uh reach so spoken by over 1.5

00:37:20.860 billion people english is spoken by around 20 percent of the global population around either natively or

00:37:29.340 as a second language um it's the most widely widely learned second language on earth uh the language

00:37:37.180 of the internet as well like i've mentioned over 60 of all online content is in english uh domains

00:37:44.460 programming languages social media terms all shaped by english if you want one day space and one

00:37:50.700 day space can you imagine like in star wars everyone speaks english yeah exactly 95 of scientific

00:37:57.740 papers today are published in english 95 percent um and even in anglophone countries uh researchers

00:38:06.620 must publish in english to reach a global audience uh english has absorbed thousands of words from latin

00:38:13.740 french norse greek hindi arabic and more that's why it's so flexible adaptive

00:38:20.620 and easy to borrow from a linguistic empire in itself so a big one something to celebrate and

00:38:26.940 also it just has to be said beautiful yeah we have a genuine genuinely beautiful language i don't mean

00:38:34.700 yeah you got 10 quid bruv i mean like the old new king james or king james style poetic

00:38:41.660 a charles dickens novel yeah shakespeare yeah tennyson although i do like the word quid

00:38:46.620 to be fair it's a yeah it's a good word i'll give you that uh the next one the industrial revolution

00:38:54.380 transformed global production society and economics uh england was the birthplace of the steam engine

00:39:01.820 although it was scottish was it so what so it doesn't count leave it in there uh mechanized

00:39:09.900 factories and railways sparking the modern age england was the first country to industrialize

00:39:18.140 by the early 1800s england became the first industrialized nation shifting from agrar um sorry

00:39:25.340 agrarian work said that correctly have i agrarian agrarian don't know why brain just went then

00:39:32.060 um work to mechanize factory labor at an unprecedented scale uh the textile industry as well a big one

00:39:39.900 was the first to mechanize uh using inventions like the spinning jenny water frame and power loom

00:39:46.860 england became the world's workshop for cotton goods and england moved production out of cottages

00:39:52.780 and into centralized mechanized uh centralized mechanized uh factories birthing modern capital

00:40:00.380 capitalism and wage labor uh england's rich coal seems uh powered the revolution fueling steam engines

00:40:07.820 metal working and home eat heating uh the phrase dark satanic meals and mills comes from english poet

00:40:16.060 william blake yes describing the industrial cities of the north yes honorable mention

00:40:22.460 they uh yeah i i am the north it's a captain north love it uh railways were invented in england in 1825

00:40:31.500 england launched the first public railway the stockton and darlington line uh in 1830 the liverpool

00:40:38.140 manchester railway became the first modern intercity railway and this sparked a global industrial

00:40:44.140 revolutions where france germany the us and japan followed england's lead importing english machines

00:40:51.420 engineers and methods and we still can't get them to bloody go on time no no yeah and then the rest of

00:40:57.980 the world proceeded to and then you look at the pan with their bullet train i mean thank you and we

00:41:05.260 got hs2 yeah yeah which hasn't even been built um next one literature and theater yes has to be said

00:41:15.180 uh profound global cultural influence from hamlet to lord of the rings massive big fan of lord of the

00:41:23.580 rings incredible i know you've done a lot of work that's why i wanted to give a good nod you know

00:41:29.500 i'm something of a tolkien fan myself uh england's literary canon um uh shaped storytelling language

00:41:37.580 and moral imagination worldwide shakespeare is the most influential writer in human history rightly so

00:41:45.980 his works have been translated into over 100 languages he introduced over 1700 new words

00:41:53.980 and phrases into english including eyeball bedroom lonely and break the ice

00:41:59.660 uh the globe theater was the world's first mass entertainment venue built in 1599 it brought drama to

00:42:08.140 the common man and theatrical revolution where nobles and peasants watched the same plays side by

00:42:14.140 side isn't that nice um and the english novel was born in the 18th century um writers like daniel defoe

00:42:22.140 uh and samuel and samuel cruso yeah that's it and uh samuel richardson pamela uh helped invent the

00:42:30.540 modern novel a new form of storytelling focused on the individual psyche um king james bible honorable

00:42:38.300 mention uh shaped english style uh commissioning england it's majestic poetic phrasing influenced centuries of

00:42:47.020 literature rhetoric and religious thought too uh but you could name so many i've got a list here william

00:42:53.260 blake like we've mentioned william wadsworth charles dickens george elliott uh mary shelley's frankenstein

00:43:00.380 bram stoker uh jane austen george orwell tolkien c.s lewis my favorite uh the list goes on and on they do

00:43:09.900 no honestly it's um it's absolutely extraordinary the number of writers you know famous english writers

00:43:16.940 yeah um it's well i mean it's very helpful for me as a presenter on a show called chronicles

00:43:24.700 just going through pieces of literature awesome it's going to be inexhaustible yeah but uh it's

00:43:29.580 like never ending yeah it's incredible absolutely incredible uh the next one football not soccer

00:43:38.220 i want to say that to be fair i'm opting out of this one you're opting out of this one i've never been

00:43:42.460 a footy fan fair enough so i'll let you represent it is the world's most popular sport undeniably

00:43:49.020 even if you don't like it or you're not a fan i've gone off it personally but i still do watch the world

00:43:53.340 cup uh codified and spread globally from england it became a universally cultural language uh one of the

00:44:01.660 few shared global rituals which is awesome uh the football association or fa was founded in london in

00:44:08.300 1863 making england the birthplace of modern football it was the first time the rules were

00:44:15.180 standardized separating it from rugby uh the first match under fa rules took place in december 1863

00:44:22.940 between barnes fc and richmond fc in london uh soccer this is where the term obviously came from

00:44:30.140 from associated association football shortened by english public school boys in the 1880s

00:44:36.620 and ironically americans kept using it longer after the english dropped it

00:44:42.300 uh just thought i'd say do love my american brothers and sisters though i think they're cool

00:44:46.140 i think they're awesome uh the oldest football club in the world is english which is sheffield fc

00:44:51.900 uh founded in 1857 and is officially recognized by fifa as the world's oldest club still in existence

00:45:00.220 pretty cool it's remarkable very remarkable um and it was spread globally by the british

00:45:06.460 empire football was so that's an honorable mention british sailors engineers soldiers and merchants

00:45:13.100 introduced football to latin america africa asia and europe often before these regions even had nation

00:45:19.500 states and england played in the first ever international match in 1872 where they faced scotland

00:45:27.820 in glasgow the first international football match in history and this became the seed of international

00:45:33.260 tournaments and global football diplomacy and it's watched by over three three point five

00:45:40.060 billion people globally uh making it the most popular sport on earth that's astonishing astonishing

00:45:46.140 yeah i'm hearing these figures for the first time yeah it's genuinely pretty big i don't suspect it to be

00:45:51.660 high but yeah yeah that's incredible and the fifa world cup is the world's largest single sport event

00:45:58.700 so an honorable mention considering it's english what's all this did england rig the result i'm

00:46:05.340 i'm only hearing about this for the first time i just wanted to get the photo is this scottish propaganda

00:46:10.780 it probably is no it wasn't rigged um next one very important one the british museum and the concept of

00:46:19.900 public access to knowledge so opened in 1759 it was one of the first national museums uh open to the

00:46:27.900 public and it set a global precedent for education and cultural access uh you know and obviously people

00:46:35.180 are trying to say that it's controversial because it was built through the empire but enough of the

00:46:39.500 naysaying you know we're focusing on positives here um it was the first national public museum in the

00:46:45.820 world funded by parliament and free to all um for studious and curious persons um and a revolutionary

00:46:55.180 idea in the 18th century unlike royal or aristocratic collections um the british museum was open to the

00:47:03.020 public from its earliest days a move that helped democratize access to science art and archaeology

00:47:10.060 very important uh the british museum became the model for national museums worldwide inspiring

00:47:16.140 institutions like the louvre is it louvre in uh paris paris they leave i think yeah yeah

00:47:24.940 don't even pronounce it properly sorry about that this is about england okay yeah exactly i'll say louvre if

00:47:30.380 i want to um the smithsonian uh in washington dc uh and is it the hermitage in saint petersburg it may

00:47:39.420 well be yeah i'm not familiar that's how you say it have you ever been to the uh victorian albert

00:47:43.580 museum no i haven't that's my favorite that's my favorite in london yeah if you haven't already go

00:47:48.780 to the victorian albert that's an astonishing uh display from content all over the world some good

00:47:55.580 content from that uh another very important one the english public education system um it was the

00:48:04.540 blueprint for mass education from england grammar schools oxford and cambridge and universal education

00:48:13.020 policy were pioneering uh steps towards literacy and academic excellence um grammar schools founded

00:48:21.740 from the 12th century onwards so massive institution very old institution which offered classical education

00:48:28.620 in latin and theology to boys regardless of social class uh oxford which was established in 1096 and

00:48:36.620 cambridge established in 1209 became the intellectual engines of the english-speaking world producing

00:48:44.860 generations of scholars uh clergy scientists statement you name it uh the tutorial system is of one-to-one or

00:48:56.140 small group uh instructions uh is still used obviously at oxford and cambridge and is considered one of the

00:49:04.140 most intellectually rigorous teaching methods globally very cool very cool indeed very cool we're going full

00:49:11.260 nerd in this and enjoying it uh and from the 19th century onward uh public schooling in england helped

00:49:18.220 form a cohesive national culture uh teaching history patriotism english literature and christian values

00:49:25.660 patriotism oh they should they should bring that back they should teach that again yes so we have

00:49:32.140 the foundation there why not use it uh number nine is naval power and global trade very significant

00:49:41.740 we hear obviously about the british being one of the best navies in the world so why not mention it

00:49:46.860 it's set the terms of modern geopolitics and commerce through maritime dominance england helped create

00:49:53.420 a global trading system uh spread capitalism it does have its faults i will say but it lifted a lot out

00:50:00.620 of poverty so that's the positive yeah i'm i agree with you um and laid the foundations of the modern

00:50:07.740 global economy and in the late 1500s england invested heavily in naval strength defeating the spanish armada

00:50:14.620 in 1588 a turning point that allowed english maritime expansion uh established by henry the eighth

00:50:23.420 the royal navy became the most powerful naval force in history by the 18th century projecting english

00:50:32.060 power worldwide and england played a central role in shaping um admiralty law still the legal foundation

00:50:41.260 for international shipping and naval conflict today and obviously beyond and england created the first global

00:50:48.140 trade network something to be proud of i think and by the 1700s english ships connected africa the americas

00:50:55.900 the caribbean india china and europe enabling the first true global economy something to be proud of i think

00:51:03.100 well and just not to mention of course um those particularly famous and wonderful english explorers

00:51:10.060 like sir francis drake captain cook these are some of the most famous heroes in all of english history

00:51:17.900 right and deservedly so exactly deservedly so yeah no blackpilling please uh and i thought i'd leave the

00:51:24.940 most controversial to the end oh yeah and that's the british empire otherwise known as the english project

00:51:32.060 used to be anyway um there is no desire there's no desire let me start again excuse me there's no denying

00:51:40.060 that the british empire was one of england's greatest achievements there's just no doubt you know whatever

00:51:45.900 your view is now we can look back easily and you know pick out atrocities which fine i actually don't

00:51:52.620 have any qualms of that if we should look at the bad and the good too but to diminish it and say it's not

00:51:59.820 one of the greatest achievements is denying history in my my view well to say that the british empire

00:52:07.980 was bad for existing right or was was evil because it was an empire um is fundamentally to not

00:52:15.980 understand human nature it's to to misunderstand civilization right you in history going back to

00:52:25.020 the akkadians right you either ruled an empire or you became a part of someone else's right you were

00:52:33.260 either conquered or you were a conqueror and when you have an empire like britain it's very interesting

00:52:40.540 to see how some how much of it in those early beginnings came about by accident right especially

00:52:48.300 when you've got a lot of the um you know the the puritans and the religious minorities obviously

00:52:54.300 leaving to the americas um and lots of people and then invariably what would happen of course they

00:52:59.740 will grow and they would need some regulation and so the british state will get involved and then

00:53:05.580 before you know it and you know people say all britain shouldn't have um taken india just as one

00:53:11.580 example of a country famously a part of the empire raj you're right the raj but before that you

00:53:17.420 know with the east india trading company yes um and obviously becoming really under britain's fear

00:53:24.620 at the end of the seven years war it's like oh well it was evil for britain to to conquer us we should 0.98

00:53:30.220 have been an independent india there would never have been an independent india india as a collective

00:53:37.420 ideal of a nation did not exist in 1757 whenever it was and you were either going to

00:53:45.500 be under the british or you were going to be under the french right it's that simple that that is the

00:53:52.620 hard reality of the situation back in the middle of the 1700s right and so they can lament that it

00:54:01.420 existed but it doesn't grapple with the reasons for why such a force would come to exist and needed to

00:54:09.740 exist in the first place um and obviously as well the british empire is one of those empires that

00:54:17.020 actually foresaw its own dissolution yeah in the end right it you know even if uh some people might

00:54:25.660 feel like its paternalism was misguided it still actually saw its own end after providing a certain

00:54:33.340 level of civilization to its colonies another place in the world which is generally speaking not

00:54:40.940 the psychology of most empires uh at all so yeah no the british empire was um a remarkable achievement

00:54:50.140 on behalf of england but of course we can't we don't just define ourselves by it right england is a

00:54:56.300 much older nation yeah and the older than that in the broad aspect of history the british empire

00:55:01.580 represents about 250 years yeah exactly in a nation that as you say is nearly 1100 years old right yeah

00:55:09.660 so we've always been more than just in the imperial power exactly um tiny bit of history obviously there's

00:55:17.420 not enough to cover when it comes to the empire there's lots to obviously discuss it was english sailors

00:55:22.780 merchants lawmakers and monarchs who launched it long before britain even existed and for centuries

00:55:29.340 that empire reshaped the world from law and language to railways and representative government

00:55:34.380 it's become fashionable now really uh to apologize for the empire you know with these calls for

00:55:41.260 decolonization which we've been hearing for a long long time now even before we were born the king not

00:55:48.540 being able to go to another foreign country without giving a land acknowledgement oh my gosh it was

00:55:53.340 at canada recently yeah see that i'm waiting for the english's yeah acknowledgement of england yeah i'm

00:55:58.620 waiting for that one um but we should recognize the immense legacy that england did leave behind um

00:56:07.580 england began overseas colonization in the late 1500s founding colonies in ireland in 1171 virginia in 1607

00:56:16.700 and newfoundland in 1583 the acts of union 1707 created britain but by then the empire was already

00:56:26.060 spreading english common law spread across the empire the legal systems of australia canada india

00:56:33.340 the us and hong kong all stem from english common law not a pan british code uh parliamentary democracy

00:56:40.780 was an english export the westminster model with elections civil service and a sovereign

00:56:46.860 legislature legislature um was exported from england to dozens of colonies railways telegraphs and

00:56:53.180 infrastructure were english blueprints the empire spread english technology building rail networks in

00:57:00.140 india africa and australia that still function today not so much i think in india a little bit perhaps

00:57:07.260 perhaps not um the british museum and the imperial archive were english creations institutions like

00:57:14.940 the british museum 1759 and the royal geographical society were founded in england to organize and study

00:57:21.500 the empire scotland benefited from the union just gonna say it but england still built the system

00:57:29.580 you loved it i'm just gonna say it you guys loved it you were over represented in the empire enough

00:57:35.340 of this you hate it you hate it come on guys i love the scots we had a hell of a time yeah and they

00:57:42.620 were over represented because they were good they were good at what they were doing they were very

00:57:46.940 good at what they were doing so i don't buy this whole oh i hate it i hate it yeah we we were we were

00:57:52.300 locked in the trunk of the car yeah again taken along for a ride yeah no no you loved it you called

00:57:58.220 shotgun yeah exactly you loved it let's be honest here you loved it love you scots yeah we love you

00:58:05.020 um after 1707 scots became key players in the empire but they joined an english system already in

00:58:11.580 motion uh the infrastructure charter companies navy and colonies were english built before union

00:58:17.980 even the critics used english tools anti-colonial leaders such as gandhi

00:58:23.020 um and i can never pronounce his name properly is it uh nukrumar in ghana oh i'm not familiar

00:58:31.340 uh were educated in english trained in english law and used english institutions to seek independence

00:58:39.420 the empire abolished the slave trade uh england led the global abolitionist movement with the help of

00:58:47.820 christians uh ending the transatlantic trade in 1807 and using the royal navy to enforce it at economic

00:58:55.980 costs so i believe royal navy uh marines died a lot they did to to abolish this trade um blockaded brazil

00:59:08.220 yes yeah that's a large coastline huge massive um look i want to end it on this it is incredibly

00:59:19.500 fashionable now to just hate england and i get it i have my qualms with my own country the british state

00:59:27.980 not i'm not happy obviously it's why i'm doing what i'm doing it's why you guys do what you do here

00:59:34.940 because we love our country we don't want to see it go to ruin no and it upsets me a bit i'm getting

00:59:39.820 a bit emotional man um it upsets me to see it like go down this route it really does and um

00:59:49.500 well we still have it that's all right i don't know why i didn't think that that would happen but

00:59:54.300 um oh it is i have my criticisms obviously we all do of government and its predecessors

01:00:01.020 you know the bad parts of history we have to tackle it on obviously but i do believe that this

01:00:07.660 is something to be proud of this and i want to keep that going and we wouldn't do what we do if we

01:00:14.940 if we just hated our own country culture history and to just deny the empire's legacy and before that

01:00:22.540 and after that um and to deny it i think in my view essentially a racist history yeah i think you're

01:00:29.180 entirely right i mean it really comes from a genuine sense of unconditional love right for the land and

01:00:35.660 its people right like i was so uh this weekend i went to a visited tokesbury for the first time

01:00:42.860 and went to the medieval fair there and you just go to tokesbury and you just see all these exquisite

01:00:49.900 medieval houses right and you really just it's that's another thing about england just the land

01:00:56.700 itself the landscape it's rolling hills it's uh it's rivers it's shrubs it's wildlife it's architecture

01:01:04.140 you know just the visual you know um splendor of england is is genuinely unparalleled it's uh

01:01:13.420 it's a beautiful land and i could never live anywhere else i'll die an englishman and that'll be it

01:01:18.780 yeah i can't i'm not going to dubai like all the influences i'm not doing any of that i'm not i'm not

01:01:24.860 interested um i'll live i've lived and i've breathed in this country and i'll die here i don't care

01:01:30.700 even even if it even if it means that it doesn't look like the england that i know and love i don't

01:01:37.900 care i'll die here that's it it's still the first ticket in the lottery of life exactly and i'm very

01:01:43.820 grateful that's it cool uh i'll just quickly go to there man yeah i was like keep it together

01:01:51.980 keep it together i'm turning into the uh bully mcguire like gonna gonna cry yeah yeah yeah

01:01:56.540 gonna cry gonna poo your pants uh logan pines uh logan 17 pines says as i learn uh more of the 0.88

01:02:04.300 french language uh i know the english is both the most uh pleasing to hear and the one language that

01:02:10.220 treats words with reason yeah i uh i don't know i i do actually want to learn another language

01:02:16.700 um um at some point yeah um and i i don't like the englishman who just go abroad and shout in english 0.95

01:02:24.220 loud ass the ass mate yeah yeah it's it's not me so uh so that's great i hope the french is going 0.97

01:02:29.980 well logan that's good uh and uh reese jam piece says uh congratulations to chelsea on winning the uh 0.99

01:02:37.340 2025 fifa club world cup uh trump decided to join oh yeah i did uh in the uh trophy celebration

01:02:44.220 yeah that was super bizarre i was not expecting i was like what

01:02:50.140 uh and the most important part of the message britannia rules the waves yeah there you go indeed

01:02:55.900 well neckbeards of the world unite you have nothing to lose but your games

01:03:04.620 is my message for this segment very good very good um because they're they're coming for your

01:03:13.980 video games uh and by they i mean exactly who you think lobbyists corporations and people who

01:03:21.180 don't have your best interests at heart now you know i'm um well fairly young i suppose on the grand

01:03:28.860 scale of things you know i remember uh my first console you know was back in the early 2000s was

01:03:35.180 probably a playstation one playstation 2 something like that and so of course you know your mom or

01:03:41.420 dad would very generously buy you a video game you'd stick the disc in and then it's yours and

01:03:48.060 it's so much yours that i've still got those games i still remember i still remember uh playing on my

01:03:56.860 super nintendo and getting super mario world that was the first game i ever properly played then i

01:04:02.300 remember my dad coming home i think it was around christmas time and he had a playstation one

01:04:07.260 and i i couldn't get off it i was playing i think it was mickey mouse adventures

01:04:13.900 don't ask why and formula one and then after that two very different games very very different big

01:04:19.900 formula one fan when i was a kid so like yeah absolutely loved it but now my taste has grown

01:04:24.940 exponentially since very glad to hear it well also so what we're getting to here is of course the fact

01:04:31.420 that one time you bought a game and it was yours but now because of the the evolving system uh video

01:04:37.900 games you have a lot of them that are becoming more and more uh reliant on online servers right

01:04:45.420 provided by the host and the companies who made them and so you have here a message from uh ubisoft

01:04:51.260 famous infamous uh french canadian uh games company uh probably most famous for well assassin's creed that

01:04:59.740 was one i always used to go to yeah yeah uh back in my youth but you can see here they say that the

01:05:05.180 eula which is the the end user license uh sorry end user license agreement um you if i just bring it

01:05:13.900 uh briskly to a point c uh that it can be stopped at the time of ubisoft's decision to discontinue offering

01:05:22.460 or supporting the product right so say for example you go and pay 60 dollars 60 pounds right forever

01:05:30.860 for a video game but by ubisoft and it's entirely reliant on their servers then you're going to play

01:05:39.420 the game and say three years down the line you but some ubisoft exec decides well we don't have enough

01:05:46.220 uh gamers playing this game anymore we don't have enough people using that server we're just gonna

01:05:52.060 close down that server yeah we'll give you a little bit of notice but we're gonna basically just close

01:05:57.340 down the server and that so that leaves you well hang on i paid 60 pounds yeah for this game and it

01:06:04.220 didn't say on the box you're not going to be able to play this in three years yeah because some execs

01:06:10.940 decided to pull the plug yeah it's sad um yeah ubisoft have done well there's a couple of games from

01:06:18.540 ubisoft that they've completely destroyed splinter cell double agent i used to play that a lot

01:06:23.980 uh they've completely killed all the servers and that there's so many games that had like servers

01:06:28.220 completely killed that were even popular so yeah sucks well so obviously every action has its equal

01:06:35.900 opposite reaction force and so the reaction was a uh a movement a consumer movement uh called stop

01:06:43.900 killing games right uh nice and to the point and uh it says that the initiative was started in 2024

01:06:51.580 by ross scott after the uh shutdown of the crew which was a racing game published by ubisoft right ubisoft

01:07:00.300 uh that required a constant internet connection despite being mostly single player yes which is even more

01:07:06.860 insulting yeah it is insulting uh because again i remember uh towards the end uh you know towards

01:07:12.460 the end of the noughties there were a few games that i had for the 360 where sure like the multiplayer

01:07:18.380 servers have stopped now you can't play online with friends but you still have the single player

01:07:22.860 campaign yeah yeah so you still got half a game not to worry we still have half a game yeah yeah you know

01:07:29.420 to play theory me um but now obviously that's moving out and ubisoft turned off the game and

01:07:36.780 millions have paid for it and obviously you know they began revoking the license and so what are you

01:07:43.820 left to do and there's more examples of it here of different games i've not played any of these personally

01:07:49.980 but what matters of course is a principle that people have bought all of these games and the games

01:07:57.660 companies haven't you know because not most people you don't pick up a game do you and read like

01:08:03.420 the the the end user agreement no right on the back of a box no one does that no right you just pick up

01:08:10.460 the game you see if you like the game and you expect to keep the game yeah you're focusing on

01:08:14.140 you know the game not the terms and conditions yeah um so this ended up with wow petitions my god

01:08:21.820 right so there's one petition for the eu right for the european parliament and then

01:08:27.420 there's also one here for the united kingdom and yeah as you're you're wowing out this has got

01:08:32.540 nearly 200 000 signatures still going up yeah well i uh i'd encourage everyone to sign it because um

01:08:41.900 what are you going to do side with the lobbyists sold yeah exactly yeah so what does it say the

01:08:47.340 government should update consumer law to prohibit publishers from disabling video games and related

01:08:53.100 assets uh feature or features they've already sold without recourse for customers to retain or repair

01:08:59.660 them uh we seek this as a statutory consumer right very cool uh most video games sold can work

01:09:05.980 indefinitely but some of design elements that render the product non-functional at a time at

01:09:11.260 which the publisher controls with no date provided at sale okay um and so you have here the um

01:09:18.620 um video games europe which is the big group right that is basically against this right right this is

01:09:29.020 all you can uh if i go forward a bit all of these companies that you see here ah okay right

01:09:36.780 are affiliated with uh with soft right yeah of course yeah they keep coming up don't they yeah of course

01:09:44.300 blizzard is up there of course they've been shafting people for a long time surprised to see bandai

01:09:50.620 namco on there as well i'm not familiar with them who are they uh dark souls oh right okay um i believe

01:09:57.580 that's uh black wukong myth uh oh gosh oh you've really tested me now bandai namco is that

01:10:06.780 that also like the dragon ball z ones like budakai i'm shocked that is that thank you samson yes i did get

01:10:13.900 that right nintendo doesn't surprise me netflix doesn't surprise me no not at all there's a lot

01:10:19.980 of them i haven't heard of obviously sony well uh for the sake of time i'll just skip forward a little

01:10:25.260 bit but um so they had a response to this which was that we appreciate the passion of our community

01:10:32.140 however uh the decision to discontinue online servers is multifaceted uh never taken lightly and

01:10:39.740 must be an option for companies when an online experience is no longer commercially viable

01:10:45.100 we understand that it can be disappointing for players but when it does happen the industry ensures

01:10:50.300 that players are given fair notice of the prospective changes in compliance with local

01:10:57.260 consumer protection laws private servers are not always a viable alternative option for players

01:11:03.660 as the protections we put in place to secure players data remove illegal content and combat unsafe

01:11:10.700 community content would not exist and would leave rights holders liable in addition many titles are

01:11:19.420 designed from the ground up by uh to be online only in effect these proposals would curtail

01:11:25.980 developers choice by making these video games prohibitively expensive to create

01:11:31.820 we welcome the opportunity to discuss our position uh with policy makers and those who have led the

01:11:39.500 european uh citizens initiative in the coming month but obviously the commission uh sorry the uh

01:11:46.700 petition put forward to the european union has got over 1 million signatures right so this is in reaction to

01:11:53.180 that and it's also the fact that you have obviously an enormous dialogue going on amongst a lot of the uh

01:12:04.060 uh the big wigs in the from the gaming community now i'm not actually uh going to pretend to be an expert on

01:12:10.780 this but uh you have uh people like pirate software who has quite a big following uh he decided to come out in favor of the lobbyists

01:12:17.900 that's that's that is that the guy who used to work for blizzard am i correct in saying that

01:12:24.220 okay thank you again quick quick fact checking from the desk well his fact check is in his brain

01:12:31.580 really it should be samson up here to be honest with you yeah that's great um it's funny but then

01:12:37.980 yeah so there's been a whole host of discourse around that you can see him here giving similar

01:12:42.780 similar thoughts but then on the other side witness for the uh the prosecution of the lobbyists

01:12:49.260 you have people like pewdiepie cool right saying that he strongly encourages everyone to sign the

01:12:54.380 petition uh you also have um was it not craft saying yeah if buying a game is not a purchase then

01:13:02.060 pirating them is not a theft fair play which i think the logic is certainly there uh of course asthma gold

01:13:09.340 has been gold yeah also come out in favor of the petition as well he's become quite based as well

01:13:14.140 has become very based hasn't he and also um because of the um the ages uh in the right you wouldn't

01:13:23.980 expect the boomers no to care particularly much right doesn't personally affect them you know what's 0.71

01:13:30.460 happening to to the gamers right right build a chair stop sitting on the chair all day and playing

01:13:37.020 when will the boomers recognize the persecution that's been put on the gamers yeah right um but

01:13:44.300 then of course you have a gentleman's name here i can't really pronounce uh nicola stefanuta uh vice

01:13:51.660 president of the european parliament uh who has voiced his full support that's cool right that's cool

01:13:58.140 because let's face it he looks like a gamer yeah he looks like he'll turn up a game yeah turn up to the

01:14:04.940 european parliament and then just kick back with a a few cold ones and a yeah a good game at the

01:14:10.460 end of the software kind of guy i think you know so yes i would just encourage people to actually sign

01:14:19.260 this because it it is ridiculous yeah on the face of it it's you know a bit like how in mobile phones

01:14:26.780 they'll purposely sabotage them so that they'll break in four years so you have to buy the updated

01:14:33.180 model yeah right scam it's just it's genuinely sabotaging it so that you constantly have to buy

01:14:40.060 the latest console the latest game yeah right and it moves it along in such a way where especially if um

01:14:46.940 obviously when you've got games that are on steam right where you just download the game and then if

01:14:53.100 ubisoft are just keep keep riding on ubisoft i want to take it off the library yeah we're taking

01:14:59.420 it away now it's like well i bought that game yeah right and also it's just about actually preserving

01:15:06.460 the games themselves yeah exactly yeah even if it's you know an empty lobby or something it's i bet

01:15:12.780 the collectors now that buy the hard copies and all the you know the limited um

01:15:18.060 uh distributed uh games are sitting there going more of that i mean could you imagine if uh at the

01:15:26.780 end of the the noughties it was just a massacre of physical discs they're just there coming with

01:15:32.300 sledgehammers breaking your crash bandicoot right your spyro disc yeah yeah shattered on your bedroom

01:15:39.020 table yeah great it's yeah well not great you know but i was thinking of those two games yes

01:15:45.180 so uh if you're in the eu uh there's a petition right there for you to sign and if they are in

01:15:50.700 the united kingdom actually on that this is your last day uh that you can sign go on in the united

01:15:57.580 kingdom it just happens to be that way in presenting the segment so uh gamers unite nice all right i'll

01:16:07.900 just go through these uh rumble rants engage few again says my first console was the atari uh

01:16:15.100 right 600 well that's i was going to show my age there yeah how do i 2600 it's because i bought one

01:16:21.900 yeah yeah i did buy one a couple of years ago don't you dare talk to me about uh being old yeah do forgive

01:16:28.540 me yeah and uh that's a random name says what kind of games do you guys play uh i'm working on a sci-fi

01:16:34.380 strategy game as a solo dev and would like to send you guys three copies once awesome oh well

01:16:39.820 honestly if you need voiceover i'd be happy to provide that yeah i'd uh i'd love to play it i'd

01:16:44.620 i'd love to play it i mean as regards to like what games i actually like i was saying to before we came

01:16:49.100 on i uh i've just retreated now into those nostalgic classics you know mountain blade warband oh great

01:16:56.780 yeah yeah and my my favorite one or two uh one one one yeah i uh i never actually got around to

01:17:03.580 playing banner lord oh it looked yeah it did look great but uh i just never got around to it but um

01:17:08.940 also my favorite game of all time uh which is just um of course the lord of the rings battle for

01:17:15.020 middle earth 2 fair play i haven't i haven't heard that's the green cover right yes the green cover

01:17:20.780 yeah yeah yeah but i had that it's uh oh it's so fun i played so so long time ago gosh especially

01:17:27.500 when you get the mobs oh yeah the modern community for that game is genuinely extraordinary i didn't

01:17:34.860 know that so yeah they're uh they're wonderful mine is well oh sorry just quickly that's a random

01:17:41.820 name wants to know how to contact you for voiceover work uh if you okay if you send an email if

01:17:47.740 you go on my twitter lewis underscore brackpool and go to the link tree you can send me an email

01:17:53.580 on the tips lewisbrackpool at proton.me just send me an email and we'll get in touch there

01:17:58.220 go your voice acting career this week i've always wanted to do it i've actually always wanted to be

01:18:03.100 in like a video games like a voice actor whether it be an enemy or like whatever that would be awesome

01:18:07.740 um what kind what kind of games do i um so my favorite series of all time is metal gear solid

01:18:15.340 that's my favorite because it's very law heavy i still haven't completed the fourth one even though

01:18:22.540 it came out years ago and my friends all had it but it took like eight hours to download the game

01:18:28.220 and you had to wait with you had snake smoking a cigarette waiting for it to install um so i still

01:18:34.460 haven't played it and it's impossible to emulate i've been i tried for a while i gave up um so it's

01:18:40.300 metal gear solid i do like dark souls a lot um because i like the the uh the difficulty of it

01:18:48.700 that's really fun i also like strategy dwarf fortress is really fun um that's mega but then

01:18:56.860 i like i used to play total war games rome total war gosh age of empires imagine if they were built

01:19:05.420 today and like oh yeah we're removing the uh the online service so you can never play

01:19:10.620 horrible total war again sacrilege right um but i love silent hill as well that's one of my favorites

01:19:15.580 too yeah rome total what they should be playing that in a thousand years yeah they really should

01:19:21.020 apparently it's the game with the highest divorce rates attributed yeah apparently that is rome total

01:19:27.740 war it is yeah the game that is mentioned in the most divorce cases i'll bear that in mind

01:19:33.580 i'll bear that in mind all right let's go to the video comments i'm sweet i just watched superman

01:19:39.500 and this just proves that hollywood people need to learn how to shut up there is a political conflict

01:19:45.900 within the context of the movie but the movie is really not political it is the most goofy of comic

01:19:53.580 book comic movies if you like 19's goofy comic book you'll like this if you don't you won't like

01:19:58.620 they're simple as is it's new superman yes not seen it no i've not either i'm probably not going

01:20:05.260 to go to be fair i'm just i'm fatigued out yeah yeah um with it all but i i totally take uh sophie's

01:20:11.900 point as well you you get a lot of things like this where actually uh a film or a tv series might not be

01:20:19.260 enormously political but like one rogue actor yeah yeah just wants to make it just wants to make it

01:20:24.860 about something yeah but then you get it all gets bogged down into although of course on the other

01:20:30.220 side there is a lot of genuinely political stuff out there yeah where they are trying to make it yeah

01:20:36.380 annoying these are some of the many structures left behind by the polish refugees when they were 1.00

01:20:43.420 returning to their homeland but what is so amazing these structures made out of lime mixed with maram

01:20:50.780 are still strong and habitable interestingly this borehole now seemingly abandoned in the bush but

01:20:57.980 still functional was sunk by the refugees a few meters from this water point is a well-designed temple 1.00

01:21:04.540 built from 1943 to 1946 very cool that is very cool didn't know that polish world war ii

01:21:13.340 establishments in uganda that's so random polish empire yeah yeah the polish empire in uganda that's

01:21:23.020 random i didn't know that very funny is that all the video comments samson

01:21:29.500 yes okay great well thanks for the confirmation we got the comments at the bottom haven't we yes i'll

01:21:36.620 just start going through them uh so uh electric boogaloo says the honor of becoming a knight of the realm

01:21:42.700 should have similar responsibilities uh for one thing it should mean you are bound to the scepter dial

01:21:48.940 any knight who betrays this and chooses to live outside of the uk should be exiled this this is a

01:21:55.020 great point as well by boogaloo here the about the actual responsibility of the thing it's also it's not

01:22:01.420 just about the achievement getting there it's about how you are going on from it as well absolutely um just like um

01:22:10.380 like baptism yeah well just like the secularization of knighting uh the secularization of oaths just

01:22:18.220 taking oaths like uh you remember when the last parliament started and you had a clive lewis

01:22:24.300 mp for norwich right and he uh put his you know hand of swear allegiance to charles but he wouldn't

01:22:31.100 swear them to his descendants and uh so they had to make him take the oath again that's it yeah they

01:22:36.460 had to make him do it again it's like well what's the point yeah he's already said that he's not in

01:22:41.820 favor yeah it just like there's no force behind it there's no there's no um there's no problem if he

01:22:49.100 breaks it right there's no um whereas of course if you swore on the bible an oath before it meant

01:22:57.180 something yeah it did right there was a genuine consequence yeah if you if you wavered from that

01:23:02.620 absolutely um fuzzy toaster says the new nobles uh should have uh should have should earn their keep

01:23:11.900 the way the old ones did with blood sweat and gold uh they got the gold admittedly however i see no

01:23:17.980 sweat um public works uh for the good of the british people and blood uh point to one of uh with

01:23:26.060 anything approaching military service you can't well no entirely true fuzzy uh and then i'll just go

01:23:33.340 for uh nicholas ware who says watching the motherland lose everything i love uh is heartbreaking uh it

01:23:40.780 makes being so pro-british in america difficult uh can you imagine the uh blurred out word i get over

01:23:49.340 here no no i cannot i cannot but uh we appreciate your loyalty to us so thank you nicholas shall i

01:23:56.460 read out the happy birthday england one yeah go for it uh so sophie live uh says unironically a majority

01:24:02.620 of my favorite authors are english uh and if you didn't even get to terry pratchett uh douglas adams or

01:24:08.940 ben um uh arinovich have i said that correctly i'm an englishman who cannot pronounce words terrible i believe

01:24:17.660 so um and their works are just soaked in this sense of humor and that is entirely unique to british

01:24:23.500 uh yeah i can already see monty python underneath that don't forget that uh this is blackadder yes

01:24:29.660 uh yes i'm a fan of that there's a there's a character in that called captain darling yeah yeah

01:24:34.300 yeah yeah um apparently yeah oh yeah yeah yeah if you hadn't said anything yeah that's hilarious

01:24:41.260 get the eye twitch going this wonderful dry sarcastic clever british humor that england

01:24:47.100 brought to us with monty python blackadder the it crowd and it's like i'm genuinely sad to see that

01:24:53.260 sort of humor also becoming more and more rare and the office as well i want to point out uh

01:24:57.660 shall i do another two yeah go for it yeah time um uh first keeper orland uh the english invented time

01:25:05.980 or at least the standardization of time based unlike the majority of inventions by the english

01:25:11.100 was invented because something was a minor inconvenience without it very good um

01:25:18.060 uh what else should i pick uh

01:25:23.020 and someone online says the only exciting soccer thing i've ever heard uh heard of was one guy bit

01:25:30.060 off another guy's ear that was uh oh that was luis suarez who bit off a guy's ear yeah argentinian 0.89

01:25:37.580 player yeah that's it sounds pretty savage it was pretty savage uh and then from the final segment

01:25:45.020 i've got george hap here who says i appreciate what the stop killing games campaign is doing

01:25:50.460 but getting the eu involved is like inviting a vampire into your house i'd much rather the general

01:25:55.980 consumer realizes that he doesn't uh only digital digital copies uh sorry digital games and online only

01:26:04.220 ones have an expiration date well obviously yes i would much prefer that as well i would um

01:26:11.500 like to raise the awareness but um i suppose it just comes down to that thing that it's a

01:26:21.420 it's something that they shouldn't be doing anyway right we shouldn't we shouldn't be like

01:26:27.660 they shouldn't be in this they just shouldn't be allowed to do that i don't think absolutely not

01:26:32.380 um so i i absolutely understand your point george about government over overreach and perhaps you

01:26:38.460 know more about the subject than i do as well but um i um i just feel like on this occasion

01:26:45.580 that it seems like the guys have got the right idea of just actually getting the institution to

01:26:50.940 back them over the lobbyists if they can yeah uh we've got uh naomi roberts who says i just want 1.00

01:26:58.220 to play age of empires without steam and it's apparently not possible well that's another point

01:27:03.660 as well yeah it's all aggregating to um servers yeah you've got some standalones like escape from

01:27:10.140 tarkov and uh gosh what are the standalones um well without steam but i played battle for middle

01:27:17.740 earth uh oh yeah that's not on steam yeah yeah i don't know and ea don't have the license anymore

01:27:23.900 of course to those games so you can only uh get it through the community who have made their own

01:27:29.900 online servers to play and um you know and i feel like those guys should be rewarded for that

01:27:38.300 absolutely right that's uh it speaks to true loyalty without them we wouldn't be able to play that game

01:27:44.460 as a community anymore exactly uh and then uh uh we've got lord inquisitor hector says i remember

01:27:52.940 the last time they uh came for our video games it spawned the birth of a young lad called sargon of a

01:27:58.940 cad and the rest as they say is history 2.0 now only wanted to play video games yeah yeah should have

01:28:07.340 learned the first time and now we're here right game of gate 2 yeah exactly yeah and then uh last one

01:28:14.060 before we go out fuzzy toast says seriously peer to peer uh just have it as a back backup in your net

01:28:20.620 code uh i understand it has a slew of issues but it sidesteps this stuff uh let people host their

01:28:26.940 own servers and hey presto uh no more of this tripe yeah well as we were saying having your own servers

01:28:33.740 is probably the best way forward to be honest if you can yeah if you can do it sure uh well that's all

01:28:39.740 we've got time for today ladies and gentlemen i hope you've enjoyed it lewis thank you for coming

01:28:44.220 on again it's been wonderful pleasure thank you no thank you for having me on really means a lot

01:28:48.620 and uh we'll see you at one play oh one pay p.m one p.m tomorrow okay thank you have a good time

01:28:56.300 cheers

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 14, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1207

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