The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1211

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the load seat is episode 1211 for friday the 18th of july

00:00:15.480 2025 i'm your host luca johnson joined today by special guests josh firm and nick dixon

00:00:22.100 together we are firm dixon johnson nice straight out with the jokes and josh is back i came back

00:00:29.840 i think it had left and he's still here you can't get rid of me yeah i'm like some sort of venereal

00:00:34.420 disease i just keep on coming back you did a really good podcast though recently josh i saw

00:00:38.000 120 000 views yeah it doesn't matter what channel whose channel was it that doesn't matter it doesn't

00:00:44.200 matter i would never i would never bring that you have a channel nick do you have a channel i think

00:00:47.740 we both do yeah go for the channel subscribe to them ladies and gentlemen also you know i appeared

00:00:52.640 on nick's channel so it's even more confusing yeah yeah and some some of those people might not know

00:00:57.040 me but so i put up a tweet today with me with the sword in the old office just to show that i'm

00:01:01.200 from the og days so to anyone doesn't know me i'm nick hello and to anyone who does i'm also nick so

00:01:06.700 you're nick whether they know you or not that's i'm just and if you don't know i'm just a classic

00:01:11.900 centrist who just believes in all the normal stuff you know women shouldn't vote death penalty for 1.00

00:01:16.180 shoplifting that type of thing sensible policies for a healthier britain yeah and for making noise on

00:01:21.040 a train with no headphones oh yeah suitable also total junkie death as well just throw that one in

00:01:27.620 there because i've been walking through swindon today and my goodness are they annoying anyway

00:01:32.500 today we're going to be talking all about the battle of epping uh we're then going to be talking about

00:01:38.040 britain now allowing children to vote and then we're going to talk about the uh man who pretended

00:01:43.520 to be a black poet which should be a fantastic way to round things off for the weekend ladies and 1.00

00:01:48.780 gentlemen so with all that said shall we begin by talking about what happened in epping

00:01:53.500 yesterday well i say yesterday but it actually goes back further than that of course as you can

00:01:59.440 see here reported by the bbc can't help but be reminded of the last segment we were on together

00:02:04.980 josh man man from your deep research of the subject josh what could you maybe tell us about this man

00:02:12.040 um he is not just any man he is a foreign man he is a foreign man and his name is

00:02:18.640 hadush kabatu i never would have guessed yes oh wait i would have he must be from uh what

00:02:24.480 wales is it or somewhere classic northern name he's an ethiopian he is ethiopian by the way

00:02:30.700 men can i just this man has caused an awful lot of problems right man and men and because jess

00:02:37.840 phillips is absolutely right she was saying today you know you know the problem is it's men

00:02:41.180 and i look at his headline she's absolutely right it's man well she can only go off of what

00:02:45.560 trusted sources like the bbc teller can she yeah it's like florida man isn't it yeah how can you

00:02:51.380 keep on getting away with it that's the question so but obviously like with so many things here

00:02:57.600 these men just men uh always have it as a dark turn whenever you see that in a news article and in the

00:03:06.240 case of this one it's particularly uh ridiculous because it's alleged that um he sexually assaulted

00:03:13.500 a 14 year old girl living in epping which for those of you who are maybe outside of britain and

00:03:19.440 don't know your geography it's towards it's actually in the county of essex but it's also you can get

00:03:25.140 there via the last uh trip uh tube point from last train out of london last train out of london

00:03:33.220 you can get there via louton so it's connected to london and it's another example of how london just

00:03:39.800 keeps swallowing up these places that used to be outside of it but nonetheless this man um yes

00:03:46.740 eight days after the 41 year old arrived in the uk via a boat incredible and i'm certainly not making

00:03:55.620 light of this repulsive incident but it said a man tried to kiss a school girl as she ate pizza

00:03:59.840 who tries to kiss someone while they're eating pizza do you know i mean ethiopians he wanted a

00:04:03.840 mouthful as well yes obviously they're all very skinny about not understanding the culture it's like

00:04:07.680 i'm trying to eat a pizza it's horrific yeah i understand why people are very angry about this

00:04:12.600 it now being serious and it is horrible a school girl shouldn't have to put up with a 41 year old 0.90

00:04:18.020 man no no it's absolutely repulsive and so there was a there's an ongoing uh court investigation

00:04:26.380 uh into whether or not he's guilty so i may have to be careful what i say but there was also an initial

00:04:34.860 court uh court um occasion on thursday and it says that days after the alleged defense last monday and

00:04:42.100 tuesday serena berry for the prosecution uh told the 45 minute hearing that one of the alleged victims

00:04:48.180 had been approached on a busy high street and she said that kabetu had no ties to anyone or any place in

00:04:54.820 the uk uh adding the immigration have confirmed that he was only in the uk since june 29th so

00:05:03.440 here very very recently and already sexual assault basically and then rafael pidgett for the for the

00:05:12.180 defense said i believe he is here as a refugee or asylum seeker and that he arrived informally

00:05:18.900 on the boat formally informally so he wasn't dressed in a full suit no also um last time i checked

00:05:26.100 ethiopia um not at war i know they did have some trouble with the tigray region but i think that's

00:05:32.860 all simmered down now so there's no reason really for him to be an asylum seeker in the first place 1.00

00:05:38.620 no indeed there's so there's constant um obviously this particular scandal and it he's been housed in

00:05:47.480 the bell hotel which is one of those hotels wonderful legacy of the tories when they decided

00:05:53.680 to put all of these illegals into hotels in small towns and villages i mean it would be a lot better 1.00

00:06:01.420 if it were lib dem and labor voters and only those areas just like you've got to live with the

00:06:06.400 consequences but of course it shouldn't happen at all no shouldn't happen at all and so this has been

00:06:11.180 pretty well documented and so of course you have uh well i'll just play this on mute because i don't

00:06:18.880 know what sort of language is going to be said but you just heard there just protect our kids right

00:06:24.740 perfectly pure uncontroversial uh message that everyone in the country should be able to get

00:06:33.480 behind except for the people opposite apparently except for the people opposite with identical

00:06:38.840 placards it's very interesting isn't it i'm protecting them people are chanting protect our

00:06:44.080 kids and then they've got stand up to racism things it's like protect our kids well that's racist

00:06:50.220 yeah they sort of reveals they understand i look forward to the headlines remember the last time

00:06:55.800 this happened when every newspaper was like oh brave counter protest they all had the same placards

00:07:00.940 and they all ran with the same story it was completely fake made up protest then you had

00:07:05.240 like nicholas saying oh this was great then he later admitting that it was a hoax but it was good

00:07:08.980 anyway yes all the papers just ran with it it was one of those covid moments one of those kind of like

00:07:12.920 mask off oh you're not really the news are you you know it was just like every front page it was a

00:07:18.000 wednesday in the southport riots wasn't it i remember it very vividly because all of swindon high

00:07:22.340 street closed down because they'd received reports that there's going to be a far right um demonstration

00:07:26.880 walking down manchester road which is a very islamic and very crime ridden area it's like yeah i don't 1.00

00:07:33.620 think that's going to happen because there's a mosque there and as we know from the southport riots 1.00

00:07:38.400 the mosques usually contain weapons and uh yeah it was obviously just a hoax everywhere closed 0.81

00:07:44.980 and it just gave the counter protesters an opportunity to seem like they were the ascendant group

00:07:52.520 and it's obvious that the protests um against immigration were all astroturfed on that specific

00:08:01.420 day to facilitate them because let's be honest if they they met on an even playing field the stand

00:08:07.120 up to racism people would not stand a chance no not at all no not they need the police protection

00:08:13.520 otherwise they are done for they do but the the story of what's currently happening in epping is the

00:08:19.800 story of what happens basically every week now in the country where these tensions continue to

00:08:26.460 grow more and more and you have here the epping forest council leader who was saying that we never

00:08:34.380 wanted that migrant hotel the community didn't want it the council didn't want it but the government 1.00

00:08:41.160 you know this would have been the tories back when they were in charge basically told us you're going

00:08:45.780 to make that into a migrant hotel and obviously you're going to have that danger on your doorstep 1.00

00:08:52.300 and you know for my part this sounds pretty much identical a story to when i actually did a little

00:08:58.340 bit of genuine on the ground investigations my own uh year back when i was i went to raf scampton

00:09:04.380 and that's exactly the story that i had from the locals there too didn't matter there was no consent in

00:09:09.700 it you were simply told that you are going to have 2 000 illegal migrants just plonked next to you

00:09:16.640 with nothing more than the metal fence next to your village of 600 you mean a central government is

00:09:22.780 going against the wills of not only the local people but the local government as well well i never that

00:09:27.520 never happens all across the world every day and you can see a helpful map here of where the forest hotel

00:09:33.740 is and where the school is just up here just around the corner just around the corner just

00:09:39.980 around the corner it reminds me of that's when i build a mosque in cumbria in my home uh it's not

00:09:45.620 that near to the lakes where i'm from but it's still in cumbria and everyone keeps helpfully tagging me in

00:09:49.540 it and i of course get really annoyed every time but to be fair the local uh suppliers and stuff are all

00:09:53.840 refusing to get involved with it and someone also and obviously i'm not condemning condoning this but

00:09:59.360 someone smashed the camera there as well in a car with no license plates but this is this is what

00:10:04.480 will happen because this epping thing the government's position is illegal migrants should

00:10:09.160 come over and they should be allowed to just rape your children and then they'll get special treatment 1.00

00:10:13.480 in the two-tier justice system we have no borders and we have that's not a society is it that's not a

00:10:17.880 country so of course people are going to rebel i'm amazed it's only been relatively mild and it's

00:10:22.680 only just starting but it's going to get worse isn't it yep well we were saying weren't we that you

00:10:27.100 between uh what happened in ireland recently between what you're saying in little towns in spain it's

00:10:32.800 just becoming uh more and more regular this sort of thing all across europe when people have nothing

00:10:38.520 to lose they've got nothing to you know there's got no risk to going out and protesting on the street

00:10:43.640 or even rioting how could it not happen it really seems like they're doing everything they can obviously

00:10:48.020 professor david betts has said things like this it seems like they're doing everything they can

00:10:51.460 to provoke civil unrest i'm not saying it is deliberate it's just they're doing all the things you

00:10:56.220 would do if it was deliberate you almost wonder if it's like telling yourself like oh don't trip up

00:11:00.580 or something and then you trip up it's like that's the one thing they're so afraid of which is a sort

00:11:04.580 of a majority of the native majority in a country sort of rising up and organizing that's the one 0.99

00:11:10.280 thing they're doing everything they can to provoke ostentatively right that's so strange also i it's not

00:11:16.000 actually related to this message i got up from him but morgoth made a really good point uh earlier on

00:11:21.160 this week i believe it was which was that if the british state was entirely incompetent

00:11:26.960 every now and then that incompetence would actually benefit us right right chance you by chance at some

00:11:33.880 point it would actually benefit us but it never does it never does it always has the worst possible

00:11:39.440 outcome yeah and so what can you do but ascribe malicious intent dominic cummings did a speech

00:11:45.980 recently which i did a reaction to it's exactly what he says it's the pathological system working as

00:11:50.840 intended it's not just that it does bad things it also stops anything good he was saying there's a

00:11:55.720 few skilled migrants immigrants proper skilled people we might actually want to take but he says

00:12:00.760 the home office is waging a jihad against them that's the word he used so it's they also stop

00:12:05.660 everything good there was just a story the other day a british highly qualified medical student can't

00:12:10.460 get a job as a doctor despite the massive shortage actually covered that right at lotuses and yeah

00:12:15.660 they're bringing in people from countries where you can't take the qualifications at face value 1.00

00:12:20.720 right actually british doctors are some of the best qualified in the world i think the only ones

00:12:24.800 that outperformed um them off the top of my head were south african um presumably white south african

00:12:31.380 and australian maybe and us but they're all in the same sort of ballpark but you can see a

00:12:36.380 commonality there of developed countries with good infrastructure and the ability to train good doctors

00:12:42.680 yeah so i take morgo's point it's like yes it only does bad things nothing good very strange yeah like

00:12:49.640 you say you'd think it'd be like oh but we've got some good doctors no no they're stopping the

00:12:52.660 doctors oh they're making them worse yeah right so nothing works everything is opposite world yes it

00:12:58.920 is and you know some people with an experience of opposite world are of course the people in

00:13:04.160 epping themselves and as morgoth points out here in a text from a friend that epping is one of them

00:13:09.100 places the east end cockneys fled to and they know that there's nowhere else to go because of course

00:13:15.100 it's not merely the question of london and the demographics of london is not entirely based

00:13:21.220 around just the foreigners who've moved in there it's also the indigenous white english people who

00:13:27.720 have fled it as well because of the state of it when you go it's like you said epping's the end of

00:13:33.860 the line so when you go to the end of the line it's like right we can't back up any furthest now we

00:13:37.580 have to fight back yeah which is why i thought it was relevant to bring up yeah and you get this and

00:13:42.820 obviously essex as a county as well you get um with a farage's seat in clacton clacton famously

00:13:49.160 another town that's got a lot of the people who've uh flown from london diaspora yeah lotus

00:13:56.920 eaters own bodade of course an essex man he is essex man he is essex man so i actually thought that

00:14:02.880 this was worth uh playing it's a little bit lengthy but i think it should be listened to all the way

00:14:08.980 give me and i'm not gonna sing good for you but listen we you know i just want to thank everyone

00:14:14.520 for coming here today we're all local people we're all good local tax paying people we don't want

00:14:21.140 trouble we don't want fights my question would be why and all due respect to the police why are you

00:14:27.900 allowing agitators to come and fight against us

00:14:31.960 because you are inciting violence we're not you are mr starmer i hope you're gonna hear i hope you

00:14:41.440 hear this why are you letting five six hundred undocumented men come across the channel every

00:14:48.220 day into this country we don't know who they are we don't know what their background is but

00:14:54.360 they don't share our values they don't respect women and they do not respect children yes 1.00

00:15:00.020 i am a mother of three i have got me i've got four knees under 10

00:15:07.160 every child's right is to walk to school and not fear that they're going to be sexually assaulted or

00:15:14.180 raped we do not live in a third world country this is the united kingdom the last time i looked

00:15:20.940 this is not about racism i don't care if the men in that hotel over there are green yellow or pink

00:15:30.900 we don't know who they are they may be nice men i don't know no one knows the likelihood is they're

00:15:38.640 probably not but a man gets off a boat from ethiopia he has come across europe to come to this

00:15:45.560 country why because we are a soft touch yeah we give them everything that they want and then

00:15:51.900 they turn around and abuse us yes yes yes i'll leave it there but she speaks very well she does

00:15:58.680 yeah she speaks very very well and i wanted to give her the opportunity to uh obviously speak on this

00:16:04.580 as well so to amplify a message but she also um interestingly towards the end of this uh speech 0.98

00:16:11.120 goes on to say that don't care anymore what you call us don't care about being called far right

00:16:17.340 don't care about being called racist it makes me laugh these days to be honest if someone calls me

00:16:21.800 racist i'm like you don't even know yeah but i thought what was notable there is is um yeah for

00:16:28.180 you for people who follow this stuff for a living people on our side and stuff we're well used to

00:16:31.860 knowing that when someone says that now it's just a disingenuous way it's just a way to attack you

00:16:36.100 and you should dismiss it completely but for an ordinary woman who's not in this business 0.85

00:16:40.060 who's as a woman high in agreeableness to quote jordan peterson right more women traditionally care 1.00

00:16:46.080 more about social uh conventional you know social approval so to say at this point i don't care about

00:16:51.820 being called far she says if that's what i have to take if i have to take that label i will bear it

00:16:55.880 yes that's a significant moment yes you you would rather be a racist that prevents rape

00:17:01.080 then yeah because they're protecting their children and they're like fine i'm far right i'm protecting my

00:17:05.700 child i'm amazed at how fatigued people are about hearing about this sort of thing as in being

00:17:11.900 called racist usually yeah i don't care anymore no one cares it's so overdone that the word doesn't

00:17:17.080 have any meaning and there are lots of people that are just embracing it now and just saying sure okay

00:17:22.020 you know if that's the price of protecting children from sexual assault then so be it yeah when can i have

00:17:28.540 a border again yeah exactly boats showing up every day with rapists ready-made rapists coming off the 0.99

00:17:35.380 boat and assaulting children you're like okay yeah i'm racist then but also it's not just the

00:17:40.640 illegals as well it's the much larger problem of the legal migrants many of which are coming from 0.99

00:17:45.480 the same places that the illegals are coming from so it's exactly the same problem but even more 0.99

00:17:51.140 pernicious really i agree and but i there's another point to these um uh posts here about actually just

00:17:59.540 look at the fact that they're clearly homemade right against what the the and the totally non-astro

00:18:06.760 turfed counter-protest are coming with you can tell that they've the community have actually made

00:18:11.800 these themselves yeah those um astro turfed counter-protest people they're like the people

00:18:15.780 who show up with the full kit first day at football you know i mean they're the full kit people they can't

00:18:20.380 even play but they've got all the stuff they've got the best tennis racket whatever it is all the gear

00:18:24.400 exactly these are the real people with the homemade signs they are but because of the tensions of course

00:18:32.480 and the ever-increasing feeling of uh how the police are not on the side of ordinary people and of course

00:18:41.160 i shouldn't need to say this but i obviously preface i don't endorse violence i don't endorse

00:18:46.780 rioting we here don't endorse that but what we are saying is we understand why things have got to this

00:18:53.080 point why the anger has built so much that eventually you see things like this

00:18:58.440 so things did get quite aggressive actually uh out there there was a lot that i saw

00:19:22.820 and but this is probably the most um well infamous part going around

00:19:28.740 i have no idea if that person's okay uh but that was really really awful and when you compare

00:19:46.340 the way that the police are uh just using their vans as battering rams against the barricades when you

00:19:53.640 compare the way that they were accelerating into that man compare that to how they handled something

00:19:59.680 like the uh the hair hills riots in leeds last year yeah they just fled didn't they just fled and let

00:20:05.740 the that diverse community just incinerate the place to the ground like the police cars on fire 1.00

00:20:11.780 and you can also compare it to those people that glue themselves to the road and they're treated like

00:20:16.060 uh until very recently they were treated like kings remember there's just up all then there's the other

00:20:20.200 one the insulation nutters can't remember their name now so like britain yeah and they would glue

00:20:24.200 themselves to the road and they'd be like oh do you want a cup of tea it's like you didn't just get

00:20:27.360 slammed this is like we've seen a car slam someone before and i recall it was quite controversial

00:20:32.160 one thing that's worth mentioning here okay you've pulled that up that's funny um it's worth

00:20:38.280 mentioning that i don't actually think the person who hit that man did it deliberately uh because if

00:20:45.160 you notice the van that follows up sees what happens and slows down a little bit and i think

00:20:50.740 usually the police are told not to to hit people so they might she might even get in trouble for that

00:20:55.600 with the police but i'm not being some sort of quizzling here i'm just adding a little bit of nuance

00:20:59.940 yeah well i saw someone on twitter saying oh the the right wing people say oh the the guy shouldn't

00:21:04.300 have stamped on their the police should stamp on their face with the manchester airport

00:21:08.180 incident but not this of course they're not exactly similar are they one of them the guy had broken

00:21:12.180 a woman's nose do you know i mean this is people protesting against the video of her after she was

00:21:17.040 in deep trauma horrific yeah it's really this is very angry people who've been pushed too far

00:21:20.780 protesting against uh kids being assaulted very very different but people people like oh which which is

00:21:26.100 it far right it's like well no we want the police to do their job properly but it's a hard job of

00:21:31.140 course but those those incidents aren't really equivalent are they well i'd rather those pakistanis 1.00

00:21:34.960 weren't letting the country in the first place so it would never would have happened if i had my way

00:21:39.120 you know these people are at least english yes i uh i won't play more footage you get the idea but

00:21:45.280 this uh image came out and instantly became iconic uh there's a lot of symbolism in this image i would

00:21:53.320 say um the england flag the police van very david and goliath isn't it in a way square it's like

00:21:59.860 tianemans square isn't it staring down the tank on a on a very british roundabout that's true

00:22:05.300 little mini roundabout there that the police are driving straight over by the looks of it yes yeah

00:22:09.940 not allowed to do that that's a traffic violation you can't park there mate yeah yeah call this image

00:22:14.040 when the english began to hate couldn't you it's like what is that line with long arrears with the

00:22:18.520 remember that line from kipling oh the kipling of course yeah find it it's uh with long arrears to

00:22:22.920 make good that's how it feels it's been a long time coming but it was inevitable it was it was

00:22:29.400 and so with all of this of course you have the problem that is a bit like i reiterated with uh

00:22:38.040 the question in spain as well we see it here as well because we the british actually have quite a long

00:22:44.320 memory right we remember southport remember leeds we just people remember last year well you know but

00:22:52.240 like i know you're saying you know what we mean it's like all these little things just add towards

00:22:57.600 a bigger bigger picture in the minds of noticing and remembering a lot of noticing of um the way

00:23:05.200 that authority acts with the palestine protests or with blm or with any of i know that lord hermer

00:23:12.400 assured us that there was no two-tier policing right in the united kingdom oh that's a relief yes 1.00

00:23:18.640 i just happen to think he's a bit of a liar i didn't see an awful lot of kneeling here

00:23:22.880 no i didn't no there's actually there is also one other point i've realized that i've

00:23:28.880 skipped it because i was looking for where it was which is that

00:23:33.360 where is it sorry the i thought i had the link but it seems not to be there is the fact that of course

00:23:45.160 the anti-protesters or the counter protesters i should say uh were being escorted down by the

00:23:52.800 police and you can see that as soon as you right tensions are already very very high

00:23:58.460 and because a child has probably been sexually assaulted by a man who shouldn't be in the country

00:24:04.680 the moment that you start putting uh counter protesters in the faces of all these mums and dads who

00:24:12.120 are very very concerned about the safety of their children in the neighborhood and these people who

00:24:16.600 have the temerity to stand there and probably not from the community either probably bust in well

00:24:21.640 that's the point because they were bust in by the police and they were also bust out which is a video

00:24:27.400 that sorry i was trying to get for you um but the but it speaks to as you say josh the fact that

00:24:33.880 these people are not local they're not from round here they're not even from round here and so you

00:24:39.720 have this thing and as we were saying as well we know how many uh as you said with the southport riots

00:24:46.920 and then when the those uh left-wing protests just spouted up all over the country

00:24:53.400 sorry anyway noise coming out yeah not sorry noise from tv i think it'll be fine in that clip you're

00:25:02.680 talking about yes so you have this um constant thing where you can tell that these people are

00:25:10.440 genuinely just there to agitate right possibly at the behest of the government or an ngo or any of

00:25:17.480 you know and they've got identical signs to one another they're all the same sorts of full-time

00:25:22.360 protesters no lifers no those people it's very very suspicious and i can see even just ordinary people

00:25:30.200 now starting to put those two things together yeah they know that this is totally inorganic

00:25:36.600 and comes about everywhere oh he's got thank you very much harry uh i'll just play that

00:25:43.000 local resident support so you can hear me this is from local residents i'll just take it to

00:25:50.600 here so you can see them all being very very civilly uh just sort of ushered on by the police and they

00:25:57.240 all get uh into the vans and they're taken away at the end of the day after a hard day's work

00:26:04.200 agitating the police shouldn't be taking sides in a protest like this this is a great way to

00:26:11.480 delegitimize themselves and you know for better or worse yeah because again it it shows that the

00:26:19.400 impartiality of the police is not impartial well there's no such thing as impartiality in any

00:26:24.360 life is impartiality is always partial um but it's sometimes a little more subtle

00:26:31.960 yes than others and the police don't understand subtlety at all and so you had a statement from

00:26:38.760 the police uh with respect to what happened yesterday where they just said that i'm sure

00:26:44.040 those living in epping have concerns following tonight i share those concerns we know the people

00:26:49.240 who carried out these crimes do not represent epping or essex uh nothing about the offending

00:26:55.080 we saw tonight is representative of these communities or the peaceful event that ended

00:26:59.720 before this started but the one thing that i want to draw attention to is the fact that the police

00:27:05.400 seem to be under a misapprehension that just because they were because they wear a uniform

00:27:11.880 they think that that just entitles to them to respect respect has to be earned doesn't right

00:27:19.240 and any goodwill that the police had has just been eviscerated over these past few years yes because

00:27:25.800 as you say they've become completely politicized and obviously they're gonna they're going to reflect

00:27:30.280 the the ideology of the prevailing regime and that's all they are they're they're the enforcement

00:27:35.880 arm of the prevailing regime so you've got progressive liberal police and it's as horrific as

00:27:41.160 as that you'd assume if i were to get particularly libertarian which i know no one wants me to but i'm

00:27:46.280 going to do anyway um you know the government acts like an armed gang just like any criminal gang just

00:27:52.520 because they've got authority and they say they have power doesn't mean that they actually deserve

00:27:57.000 it or warrant it or deserve any respect you know they use violence to get their own way the same

00:28:01.800 as any criminal does i don't see them as much different to be honest in many ways criminals at

00:28:06.360 least have a code of honor they'll do anything to uh get what they want clearly well yeah there's another

00:28:12.920 take there isn't the full libertarian take is it but when they were there was a time fairly recently

00:28:17.160 where that notwithstanding they were still doing a job that the average person would go i'm broadly

00:28:22.840 okay with that there was still some degree of consent yeah yeah and that's what's gone and part of that

00:28:29.160 of course is to go back to morgoth's point about these people who have left and fled to wepping

00:28:34.120 is because they simply didn't consent to the changes that have been forced upon them

00:28:38.120 living in london they didn't you know and they obviously realized that um london was just dwindling

00:28:43.560 more and more into a two-tier society in which even the uh the worst scumbag migrant delinquent 1.00

00:28:52.760 would be treated with kid clubs and they would receive as kia starmer would put it the full force

00:28:57.560 of the law right you know we can't also forget that uh just last year the police also told that that

00:29:05.240 uh mosque to basically be used as an arsenal and you can store your weapons there before you go out 0.97

00:29:11.640 right that's an unprecedented break from english law isn't it people remember these things right

00:29:17.240 and they pay attention far more than the government ever gives them credit for do you think we're heading

00:29:22.120 towards just different areas of the country you know when i was watching callum's documentary a while

00:29:27.080 ago that really bleak one where he talks about the census i end up thinking rich people are just going

00:29:31.880 to retreat to rural pockets and live on kind of reservations this is how i saw it going and

00:29:36.920 completely abandon the cities what you have here is people have abandoned the cities then they're

00:29:40.760 still pursued it's like no no we're putting these people in next to your school then they go right

00:29:44.840 we've got nowhere else to go so now it's war and we're just going to have areas where maybe those

00:29:49.240 people get the message and they do get out of epping but so epping's just like an enclave of former

00:29:53.800 cockneys is it just going to be like that soon well people can only flee so far and once their backs

00:29:58.520 are up against the wall it's like a cornered animal isn't it it's at its most dangerous and

00:30:02.520 when you corner the people who you know helped create the largest empire the world has ever known

00:30:09.800 that's a bad recipe you're going to have some serious trouble there and i don't think the

00:30:14.680 the government really realizes what they're doing to the british people what we've never seen is a

00:30:18.680 sort of british no-go area but epping or anywhere could become that if if this kind of thing carries

00:30:24.600 on now maybe they'll be cracked down upon so brutally that actually they just have to you

00:30:29.160 know back down but it'd be i say interesting to see in a really horrific way well interesting to

00:30:35.720 see in the sense that you you feel like you're few in your future you're going to be forced to look at

00:30:41.160 it yeah right horrible i was like i woke up today thinking i can't believe because i think about

00:30:45.640 it's epic i just can't believe what the the degeneration i've seen in my lifetime just

00:30:50.680 unthinkable at one point that you know england would be a place where we see these kind of

00:30:54.840 scenes it's just unthinkable here we are so if you uh want to help uh protect epping and help the

00:31:02.920 community i thought that it would be a good idea to share uh this petition that was put forward by the

00:31:09.640 leader of the council that i referenced earlier and it's a petition to basically get that migrant

00:31:16.360 hotel shut down and removed from the area so if you'd like to you can go and sign that petition

00:31:22.840 and perhaps hopefully it may do some good but obviously as i say i don't endorse violence but

00:31:29.800 we are seeing it become far more regular and the tensions and patience of the british people

00:31:36.760 is tested more and more every day yeah no i'm the same don't endorse violence either

00:31:42.520 but yes but i don't endorse asylum hotels either no not at all uh so the engaged few says his

00:31:49.640 firm connection should be to a prison cell yes in ethiopia preferably uh well that was a play on

00:31:56.040 my name for a second i was like what have i done uh i need uh josh's ethnic tribal league table

00:32:04.040 of this guy is he oromo or is he amhara uh do you know what this is referencing it'll be his um the

00:32:12.440 the ethnic group from ethiopia um so i've got to look up his name what was his surname again i'll do a

00:32:19.320 quick um ethnicity check uh it was uh kebatu and uh the engaged few says so since the police are now

00:32:32.440 escorting pantifer uh in the counter protest should we take bets on how long before they start arming

00:32:38.920 them uh maybe march them past well they are obviously agitators they are obviously agitators

00:32:46.120 and also another thing to say about them is that of course they're all masked as well well many of them

00:32:51.640 were masked um they're just pathetic cowards and you know that because they wouldn't do this if they

00:32:58.520 didn't have the arm of the state protecting them i'm still trying to google this that's all right

00:33:05.000 would you uh would you like to do your segment and i'll google it for you yes i'm doing i'm doing

00:33:10.520 some ethnicity noticing right right i'm gonna get that quickly going

00:33:19.480 i've got an ai on it because ai is excellent at this sort of thing okay only 16 individuals worldwide

00:33:25.480 currently bear this name but it's all yeah one of them found the way here apparently so that was

00:33:32.120 very specific so anyway let's get on with it shall we

00:33:39.480 britain has allowed children to vote and by children i mean 16 and 17 year olds and uh this is

00:33:46.440 quite a surprising development there has been some campaigning for this sort of thing

00:33:50.440 of course the bbc is uh asking that demographic um but the labour party did pledge this in their

00:33:57.960 election manifesto so it wasn't necessarily a surprise and this brings it in line with the

00:34:02.280 scottish and welsh elections which are of course their rules are determined by an incredibly left-wing

00:34:07.800 uh parliament of their own and um keir starmer justified this by saying 16 and 17 year olds are old

00:34:15.240 enough to go out to work and they're old enough to pay taxes and therefore old enough to vote one 0.77

00:34:20.280 would presume but how many of them do pay taxes keir right i know i didn't do they also is is a 16

00:34:29.080 or 17 year old old enough to be informed to vote as well no didn't you love the tax argument though

00:34:33.800 because i was like oh that's brilliant so what you're saying is people who uh and net recipients

00:34:38.600 shouldn't vote he's pretty tying it to tax contribution i was like i agree i agree with this progressive

00:34:44.200 measure keir but the thing is i would happily hand in my vote if it meant that i was tax exempt

00:34:50.280 if i didn't have to pay any tax or use any government services that'd be such a blessing

00:34:54.760 and i don't have to bother voting for a party i hate so yes and as they've shown us if we've

00:34:59.480 learned anything that's all you have to vote for for that's very long i've been alive one thing that

00:35:05.560 is worth mentioning that no one's been talking about but i think is the the main thing of concern

00:35:10.280 in this story is in other changes people also be able to use bank cards as voter id and of course

00:35:15.480 on a bank card you don't have a picture of yourself and so if you have the same bank card that is on

00:35:20.360 the electoral register even if you're a different person you could even be a woman and have a man's

00:35:25.080 bank card and they're not going to question it as long as you've got the bank card now you can vote so

00:35:29.320 what that's going to do is massively increase voter fraud yeah which means labor yes and it always does

00:35:35.320 and they've been caught out with this this isn't some sort of conspiratorial thing there's no

00:35:39.080 point of contention in britain about this that the vote voting fraud only goes one way because they

00:35:44.600 found the vote factory in leicester was it leicester east yeah tower hamlets wasn't was another good

00:35:49.160 example yeah it's basically the diverse areas that vote labor um quite well often maybe they'll vote

00:35:54.680 green associated maybe or independent or jezza jezza and sultana that's true backfire won't it for

00:36:00.680 starma when they all vote jezza making it sound like jeremy clarkson rather than jeremy corbyn

00:36:06.280 i'm voting for him just to annoy starma didn't you know in my area will labor win such a crushing

00:36:10.920 victory last time reform and tories together got less than half the labor vote so i wasn't in one

00:36:16.760 of those areas that peter hitchens would get annoyed about where you know he said oh vote tory otherwise

00:36:20.920 you'll let labor labor always gonna win and green's got second so my only hope of beating labor is vote

00:36:25.160 jezza who could actually win in my area it is also worth mentioning as well that in 1969 the voting

00:36:32.360 age was lowered from 21 to 18 by labor and then in the next election they lost to the conservatives

00:36:38.360 anyway so even though i think this is a cynical ploy to try and get some voters because traditionally

00:36:45.000 younger people have supported labor we've seen that the zoomers are made of different stuff they're 0.99

00:36:51.720 a lot more radical let's just say that on both ends yes left and right but i think that particularly

00:36:58.360 young men young boys are moving more and more right because they see that the world has nothing

00:37:04.280 for them and they're right you know i've almost got to 30 i've just had to struggle against a hostile

00:37:09.320 society to get here you know there's nothing for me yeah i was gonna say nothing for you is a bit

00:37:13.160 generous i think that it's openly hostile towards yes men in general and therefore particularly young

00:37:18.040 men who are the highest in testosterone and the most out of control according to our

00:37:22.120 gynocentric society i sound like a manosphere podcast i've gone up on one but i'm gonna start

00:37:27.720 selling some sort of brain pills and sorry carry on carry on i think he's gonna shave his head by

00:37:31.720 the end of this podcast gonna sit there shirtless with maybe a chest tattoo but um it's also worth

00:37:37.400 mentioning as well that the youngest people have the lowest turnout so it's not going to shape

00:37:42.680 elections that much and i imagine if it's lower to 16 and 17 year olds it's going to be even lower again

00:37:48.200 and um i'm going to go through some of the people in the right wing commentary sphere and we're going

00:37:53.000 to talk about what people have been saying about it because i think there is um a wide variety of

00:37:58.600 opinion the left is unequivocally in favor of it obviously because they see it as expanding their own

00:38:02.680 franchise whereas the right has been divided mostly saying it's bad but also the emphasis on is on lots

00:38:11.320 of different things i thought this was quite good at 16 you can't legally marry buy alcohol or

00:38:17.160 cigarettes drive um well you can have a provisional license you can drive with someone in the front

00:38:23.000 seat but i'm being a pedant go to war get a tattoo do the lottery be on a jury buy a house well you

00:38:29.560 can't do that under 30 either um get a full-time job without being in some form of educational training

00:38:35.480 until you're 18 um a desperate labor believe that 16 year old should vote and that is true that i don't

00:38:41.960 think they're mature enough to have that sort of responsibility i don't think a 16 year old should

00:38:46.840 have the same vote as me i don't think it's fair i also think that um democracy is just an excuse for

00:38:54.680 people to steal my stuff and i sort of loathe it because it gives people a a sort of veneer to of

00:39:01.560 respectability as if they've got some sort of um consent from the people because of you know some

00:39:07.880 miserable turnout and very uninfused votes which is how we're in the position where we even have a

00:39:13.640 labor majority right now mm-hmm it's the tory vote imploded exactly trying to understand josh's

00:39:19.320 philosophy but it's i think it's going to be a long journey because you're a libertarian fascist is

00:39:24.440 that what no no you're against democracy but i'm annoyed by it i'm not saying we should necessarily

00:39:30.680 do away with it i just think it's um it's very flawed josh is just a cromwellian right except i

00:39:38.200 want to keep christmas we might need a cromwell if our king keeps saying ridiculous things that's

00:39:41.800 satire by the way don't don't put me sorry we're dragging you down nick you're gonna get yourself

00:39:46.600 in trouble i can stay out of jail just for a day just for the summer to be fair you get warm meals

00:39:53.480 and a roof over your head it's more than i could get in the you know being attacked more rights don't

00:39:57.400 you you're like oh you can't keep me in solitary unless i'm tommy robertson you know get all these

00:40:01.480 rights and uh here's callum you may know him uh he was of course on the show for a very long time

00:40:08.920 it's a bit weird if you don't know him and it's worth mentioning that the justification is well they

00:40:14.040 can work they can pay taxes and callum points out that from you can work part-time from the age of 14

00:40:20.680 and in some local areas the age of 13 and so that rationale could be extended to 13 year old voters

00:40:27.400 which is a good point to make but as you've pointed out um towards the beginning of this

00:40:32.120 segment if they've linked voting to tax right if that's well you know no taxation without

00:40:38.520 representation what has been done yeah you can just if you just stick something in your manifesto

00:40:45.160 amongst a bunch of other stuff and then you win because a lot of the other stuff is really right

00:40:50.920 wing and based you can say well this was also in the manifesto we're just carrying it out and now

00:40:55.800 before you know it voting's back up to 21 or just landed nobility or whoever it was mandatory

00:41:02.200 castration for asylum seekers yeah yeah it's it's all there so um another person who's on the show

00:41:09.560 regularly is lewis and he said yesterday in fact really yes ah this move reeks of desperation labor

00:41:16.200 knows just how unpopular this government is and is now trying to pad their support by lowering the voting

00:41:21.400 age not only is it short-sighted it could potentially backfire on the political establishment

00:41:25.560 still i don't welcome this move and i agree with this almost entirely but it does seem like a cynical

00:41:30.760 move to get votes but it could also backfire because many european countries look at say germany

00:41:39.560 where the afd actually did quite well amongst young people and it was the boomers that they did the

00:41:44.520 worst with surprise surprise and i think that we're going to see a similar trend because at the end of

00:41:49.240 the day what have young people got to lose it's like sorry we've had labor in different colored forms

00:41:57.000 for many many years basically since the 70s i would say i was joking about the jezza party but they will

00:42:04.120 vote for left-wing populism one day they will vote for this kind of blame the rich type of thing they'll

00:42:09.400 either go to the right and the others will go for the blame the rich route one communism so it won't

00:42:15.480 help the starmer type people but also a lot of the sort of traditional marxist and communists are

00:42:20.360 getting frustrated with the sort of liberal center as well many of the same many of the same talking

00:42:25.960 points actually it's weird in particular i've been seeing sort of the navara media types saying our

00:42:30.760 talking points blimey what's happening to the world yeah that left and right are sort of uniting

00:42:35.720 against the middle i know bastani's been liking a lot of harry's tweets it's all it's a strange

00:42:40.680 well he replied to me today bastani mate bastani maybe is is he like a secret is he like

00:42:48.840 well yeah yeah he wants to side with us when it suits him then he'll come out with all the

00:42:52.680 comedy stuff we weren't expecting that does usually happen yes so um another person that was formerly of

00:42:59.000 the show you know all of the lotus eaters have been commenting on this and uh connor was saying that

00:43:04.600 it will backfire he's talking about young men are public enemy number one um he's talking about

00:43:11.000 the diaspora um of pakistan he's doubling um of course he's talking about leftist women will be 0.86

00:43:18.040 convinced labor are accomplices to the um the stuff in palestine and uh he points out germany as well

00:43:25.880 another good analysis there's lots of good points i think add up to a more layered understanding of this

00:43:32.600 but is that sorry the 16 year old element that's maybe the the uh tip of the spear or whatever it's

00:43:39.800 called but this is just a trend that's happening anyway people are going to split between populist

00:43:44.360 left and right more and more anyway aren't they don't you think just getting the general base yeah

00:43:48.760 i think the center the sort of managerial center is just falling apart well it's got very few

00:43:54.680 actual organic die-hard supporters has it it's just because it has no victories to show for itself

00:43:59.640 it's at this point it's just people who watch the rest is politics and watch women's football

00:44:04.120 it's about

00:44:04.840 i get so much thicker saying women's football is i call it a mutually agreed upon i call it a soviet

00:44:12.040 level mutually agreed upon fiction everyone's like everyone is telling it's good do you think it's

00:44:16.360 good yes i also think it's good no one thinks it's good they're they in my football group because

00:44:20.680 i play five-a-side they're going come on england i'm thinking england aren't playing are they

00:44:23.640 so oh they mean there's women that's not england when you say co on england no one means the

00:44:28.120 women this is my least popular view in normie world it'll be okay i think it's very sensible

00:44:32.600 you nick thank you i reckon i could call up a bunch of mates and beat the women's team

00:44:36.680 just like all my old school mates just like you'll have a kick about we're probably you know

00:44:40.200 again on 30 we're past our prime but still those teenagers won didn't they they did yeah against

00:44:45.480 the u.s world cup winning team they're about 14 weren't they very backhanded compliment to say to

00:44:51.320 rory stewart like well you're getting more views on women's football you know double dunk that is 0.95

00:44:59.800 so um speaking of bastani actually he says besides anything else votes for 16 year olds possibly puts

00:45:05.480 the tories below 50 seats they are buggered in lib dem and reform marginals going to be quite amusing

00:45:11.160 to watch frankly the party's about to be nuked and uh oh i agree this is a wonderful revelation that zero

00:45:17.320 seats is going to be ushered in because i think back on the menu as much as i dislike the labor

00:45:22.040 party i hate the tories more um because in many ways they were more effective at enacting labor's

00:45:28.120 agenda than labor are and even when they're out of office they're still scandals yeah like the afghan 1.00

00:45:34.440 one the other day although and i argued they somewhat satirically but you should actually vote

00:45:40.280 tory over reform because you've got jenrik who's to the right of faraj faraj admitted it to the new

00:45:44.840 statesman he said jenrik's to the left of him on him to the right of him on immigration and faraj

00:45:49.560 admitted he was the left of not only jenrik but the rest of the country i'm like sorry what's the

00:45:52.760 point of your party again why are you here yeah yeah so one interesting development is lots of

00:45:58.040 people are coming out and talking about raising the voting age from 18 to higher and uh it's good

00:46:03.320 that you're here nick because here you are on the screen sensible yeah would you like to read your

00:46:08.440 own tweet i can do the voting age should be raised to at least 25 in line with the full development

00:46:12.920 of the prefrontal cortex i appreciate that good psychology knowledge there to be safe i'd said

00:46:17.000 it at 30 and obviously men only what a outrageous tweet um do you know what i got some funny responses

00:46:23.080 to that you know one person who responded that was anunziata rees mogg uh jacob rees mogg's sister

00:46:29.080 jacob rees mogg's sister now you notice i got what 2000 likes she only got 14 so you judge who's more

00:46:34.600 popular she said as women's prefrontal cortex matures a full two years ahead of men and is considerably larger

00:46:40.280 surely it should only be women who can vote according to nick's logic well no anunziata 1.00

00:46:45.320 because you fail to fulfill 50 of the criteria the this the quiz would go are you male or female

00:46:51.160 male yeah female and you've lost already then it goes and do you have a fully developed prefrontal

00:46:56.040 cortex it's not about how early or the size it's about are you a man who also has a prefrontal

00:47:01.160 cortex fully developed those but unfortunately she felt honest that perhaps her prefrontal cortex isn't

00:47:06.200 all it's cracked up to be by the way tiny bit of gossip at the gb christmas party like a year ago

00:47:12.200 whatever uh the drinks were free then suddenly they were really expensive and i was like and i

00:47:17.720 was talking to anunziata and i like offered to get a drink bought her a really expensive drink i know 1.00

00:47:22.360 if she let me buy it despite being like in the poshest family in england then she sort of sailed off

00:47:27.960 never got me a drink back the outside of a date context in the date context a man should pay 1.00

00:47:32.680 maybe i understand that this is just a non-date party content where was her feminism then that's 1.00

00:47:38.680 true it was a really long build-up just to say that just sat him mogging ms mog well she tried

00:47:44.520 to mug me on twitter so you know you come at the king you best not miss i like the fact that you've

00:47:49.480 taken a new segment to the point of she didn't buy me a drink back that's i respect though how where's

00:47:54.360 your feminism then that's all i'm saying i think my half scottish nature comes out where when someone 0.95

00:47:59.880 doesn't buy someone a drink back it's sort of infuriating the sneaky kind of way she did it 1.00

00:48:04.040 she kind of let me pay for them it was something about the way i was like this is how posh people

00:48:07.640 have survived so long they don't actually pay for anything do you mean that kind of posh um

00:48:11.720 aristocratic thing where you you mend things and you let other people buy stuff and you've never

00:48:16.120 bought anything since the 1800s women buy men drinks or we'll take away your vote be fair a lot of 1.00

00:48:22.280 women do buy men drinks i've had a few drinks bought for me in a date context i'm totally against it 0.98

00:48:27.560 no of course yeah okay good we're all clear but in this context pay up

00:48:33.400 and um here is david vance saying rather than lowering the voting age from 18 to 16 it should

00:48:38.280 be raised to 30 that's even higher than yours i said 30 didn't i uh 25 i said 25 minutes i said

00:48:44.600 ideally yes ideally i'm trying to be a moderate josh you know uh fair enough yeah i can understand

00:48:49.800 holding you back from 45 just like even foreigners weighed in this man is um a member of the new 0.99

00:48:55.720 south wales parliament in australia and um he says seriously if you want better politics we

00:49:01.000 should raise the voting age to 30 you've got to respect it he's an actual parliamentarian

00:49:08.120 what a legend can i ask you about the uh the whole women and wife and kids thing because i believe ed

00:49:13.160 dutton has said this and i've seen older wong mr wong formerly of lotus eaters say as well that you

00:49:18.840 should have a wife and kids and i'm like well hang on a minute like jesus didn't there are some pretty

00:49:22.600 there's some pretty base blokes without wife i'm not even trying to give myself the vote because

00:49:27.880 i've always said you should have property and even when i didn't have property and i was like

00:49:31.320 you know i'm totally down with that rule but i don't know if a man should have to have a wife and 1.00

00:49:35.240 kids to have a vote i think you get some base because the best way is a net tax contributor i

00:49:39.800 agree yeah i think that's the best cut off because you get these normies i play football with they they

00:49:43.800 watch the rest is politics they've got two or three kids but you want them voting and not me

00:49:48.520 they're gonna vote for starmer so also not all property is equal is it i mean you could own

00:49:53.880 some property and it'd be like five grand of field a boat or a little yeah you could you could be

00:49:58.360 living on a houseboat rosie and jim could vote oh there's a flashback to a long time ago um david

00:50:06.200 curtain says starmer's regime to lower the voting age to 16 this is insanity if anything it should be

00:50:11.000 increased to 21 that's back to the 1969 um boundary i suppose where the majority of people have a job

00:50:18.520 and work for a living that's another good argument there i think and then um so this guy i think is

00:50:26.520 the former editor of the sun and the founder of talk sport i'd raise the voting age to 21 watching

00:50:32.200 youtube and netflix can't be the sole justification for participating in democracy i'm surprised how many

00:50:37.880 people are talking about removing franchise from people i mean obviously it doesn't bother me well

00:50:42.520 now that they plenty of people i would like to remove but well it's interesting from voting as

00:50:48.120 well i suppose a certain segment of the of the viewers will just be thinking just go the whole

00:50:52.280 hog get rid of voting done you know what i mean well with the options we've got at the minute

00:50:58.040 in a functional democracy people would be in favor of it it's just that we've got which flavor of

00:51:02.920 kicking the nuts do you want well just just the people that say democracy doesn't work because it

00:51:06.920 turns everyone into a political agent then you have to get the propaganda mass media then you get

00:51:11.480 social media where everyone becomes a political actor so it has to be constantly propagandized 24 7

00:51:16.600 you get rid of that you just let the elite get on with it this assumes though a sort of righteous

00:51:21.640 elite which obviously we haven't seen for a long time maybe ancient greece or something i think if you

00:51:27.240 can trace your family back um 500 years and you're an aristocrat i'll get behind that yeah they're

00:51:34.040 normally pretty switched on people okay i'm not actually suggesting that yeah we've got exceptions

00:51:41.560 and uh finally there were some predictions here's amy gallagher um who i've interviewed before actually

00:51:47.880 um she makes the prediction that the next push will be for foreign nationals to be given the vote

00:51:52.520 and now this seems a little bit out of the paradigm at the minute in britain but of course look at the

00:51:57.320 united states and what often goes on in the us seems to eventually find its way to the uk and they

00:52:03.960 were allowing foreign nationals to vote they were letting illegals vote in their elections pretty 0.95

00:52:08.760 shamelessly and openly weren't they and i think that it may well come to that and if if the franchise

00:52:16.200 slowly expands more and more the justification becomes stronger and stronger in their minds and so

00:52:21.320 that may well happen with with the postal votes and just your bank card it's basically that anyway

00:52:26.280 isn't it yeah that's true yeah you could easily get around it and you you shouldn't vote fraudulently

00:52:32.680 i'm not just saying that to you know um what's the word toe the line of the law i i genuinely mean it

00:52:39.640 that you know it is important to be legitimate and so please don't cheat i agree and uh i suppose to

00:52:47.080 end this of course this is an absurdity it's cynical ploy to win votes um but it may well backfire and

00:52:53.640 i hope it does it's also very encouraging uh to that labor have actually done this to just put

00:53:03.320 that dialogue out there and now you've got all these people going you know what like aside from

00:53:08.600 what the weird like you know globalist commies want like what should the voting age actually be

00:53:14.280 you know it's got people having that conversation so i think we should keep having it i think it

00:53:19.160 should be 80. all the all the really elderly people so who are very what's the final tory voters is the

00:53:26.920 pension not high enough for you josh already you've only got a triple lock you'll discover like i've

00:53:30.600 got too much money in my bank account i'm not in enough poverty yet so i want to give it more to

00:53:35.000 pensioners so they can go on cruises like my parents they're going on like their fourth holiday

00:53:39.160 my parents it's unbelievable do you want to go through your rumble rant oh yes

00:53:43.720 whinging i hope they have a nice time though um where are we um okay bank card voting is a

00:53:50.360 brilliant idea there definitely won't be any industrial scale voter fraud taking place very

00:53:55.320 true base tape says perhaps her prefrontal cortex isn't all it's cracked up to be it's the most

00:53:59.960 subtly savage insult i've ever heard you're welcome brilliant not just a string says nobody could tell

00:54:05.560 a young person uh the difference between conservatives and labor at this point they

00:54:09.880 can vote reform patrol instead um even if ineffective dragon lady chris says voting is not a right it's

00:54:17.240 something that needs to be earned service guarantees citizenship i see you've got the starship troopers

00:54:22.760 perspective and um the engaged few in both britain only landowners would vote and that would just be

00:54:29.480 boomer whitewash wouldn't it or a red wash um or blue wash uh luca um may not support violence but

00:54:37.400 if you were to be called to jury duty i disavow luca why would you say that luca i i disavow myself

00:54:46.120 entirely mm-hmm i do and i think you read that i did yes i just forgot to click it okay take us away nick

00:54:53.560 okay well don't we finish it too have i got like six minutes to do my no we can overrun

00:54:57.800 until half two is it half two we do the comments at the end don't we so yeah when does it normally

00:55:02.840 end half two well no but the segment bit um we we carry on sometimes until the last five minutes

00:55:09.000 if we have to can i give these people how do i move this article up and down there because i'm uh

00:55:12.680 i've been away i think i've already done i've already done the new studio once guys so let me

00:55:16.760 just be a boomer for a second all right okay so because i i knew that your voting one would do

00:55:22.360 very well josh but i thought i thought about trying to snatch the voting top i thought no i'll let

00:55:26.280 josh do that when i'm here for the light relief the comic relief so let's just have a bit of fun

00:55:30.360 at the end and this is the white man who pretended to be black to get published great so yes i wonder

00:55:36.680 why he thought of that idea it's a young poet who pretended to be a gender fluid member of the nigerian

00:55:40.680 diaspora and wrote intentionally bad poems he says he got 47 of them published i love that

00:55:47.080 and in the email version i couldn't really link to it but there's an email version they send out

00:55:50.440 the free press this is and it said at the end of it but it soon spiraled out of control i'm like

00:55:56.120 what happened did he accidentally did he become the democratic nominee like he was method acting so

00:56:01.080 much that he became that nigerian fluid person just studying robert downey jr's performance in

00:56:07.800 tropic thunder right he moved in with them um so he wrote a series of ridiculous poems this guy

00:56:13.800 and there's a guy called aaron barry who's a 29 year old english language tutor from vancouver

00:56:20.440 and there's a guy by the way writing the article called river page who also sounds like a fake name

00:56:24.040 but presumably that's real and this is one of the poems he wrote i don't know if we're allowed to

00:56:28.520 even display this because carl doesn't like the old um swear words does he on the show should i click

00:56:33.000 off i think it'll be this is uh basically i don't i don't want to break carl's rules while he's

00:56:38.280 away but the poem is essentially a series of question marks and obscenities it's to question

00:56:43.720 mark or not to question mark william shakespeare's three question mark little bleep that is the

00:56:49.560 question i want billy bard three question marks to spank three question marks my bleep you get the

00:56:56.040 idea this is like something that would be scrawled on a wall in an insane asylum

00:56:59.880 excrement arkham asylum stuff but that got published oh it's not assigned me on this one that's gonna be a

00:57:05.720 problem i'm so i'm not signed in on that how do we do how do we sort that that could be a problem

00:57:10.840 because uh you're not gonna be able to read it um i have a solution yeah uh i've got it on mine

00:57:16.040 it's okay i i will message harry the solution okay brilliant because i got it on mine i thought i'd

00:57:21.720 solve that but uh forgot about the people out there anyway i can carry on uh so you got that poem published

00:57:27.160 in jake magazine he already knows it uh despite how how how bad it is oh he's going to

00:57:33.720 gary let's see if archive works otherwise i'm just going to tell you all anyway he pretended

00:57:37.640 to be a series of different names one of them was dirt hog savage respect that was on the names

00:57:45.720 one of them um have we got it working now this is a slight delay here which is throwing me off

00:57:49.800 one of them was adele nawankwo um which was a gender fluid member of the nigerian diaspora 0.99

00:57:57.400 who's published dozens of comically bad poems in a wide array of indie literary magazines one of them

00:58:02.120 them was a about a lesbian wwe style wrestler that features lines such as you want to know how i 1.00

00:58:08.040 feel after being cheated out of a victory over pat patriarchy a survivor series i'm furious i'm hot

00:58:13.720 i'm oh i'm so man i could kiss a woman i don't even like right now 0.95

00:58:16.760 that was in one of them straight out of bad and they're like this is good stuff this is great um so

00:58:25.720 he took on all these different names the obvious reason he couldn't get published he started calling

00:58:29.480 himself jasper salon which was another fake name and they say what sensible name is come up with so

00:58:36.280 far yeah it's actually believable um but that yeah that was his more believable fake one and he's of

00:58:42.440 course the reason is he says i just was not in the demographic they would even consider accepting in

00:58:46.520 some cases they were openly advocating on their websites for the voices of the disenfranchised and

00:58:50.280 all of this stuff i'm like wow it'd probably be a lot easier to get in if i had some sort of

00:58:54.040 connection to one of these identities he just thought of lying as a good idea what what i love

00:58:58.360 is how how ridiculous it's come since you know the days of like the late 1700s early 1800s where

00:59:04.520 women would write you know under pseudonyms you know male pseudonyms in order yeah in order to get 1.00

00:59:10.120 their the works published uh because obviously society just took men's work more seriously and

00:59:16.040 now we're at the point now where it's like oh man i can't get i can't get published unless i'm a

00:59:20.200 gay trans black woman yeah yeah and it's completely true um and they compared this to an instant there 0.82

00:59:27.720 he is very white um but he didn't show his picture what he did was he didn't if they wanted pictures

00:59:33.240 you just said no i don't like my picture and if they wanted to read poems you just said i don't

00:59:36.840 like my voice so you got around it that way and in 2015 they compare it to this michael derrick hudson

00:59:41.720 a middle-aged white librarian in indiana saw his poem the bees the flowers jesus ancient tigers

00:59:47.640 how do you pronounce that well i always forget how you pronounce it side and yes thank you

00:59:51.000 adam and eve rejected by publishers 40 times um this inspired him to try submitting it under the

00:59:57.640 pen name yi fen chow did you hear that's a terrible name for a poem that's so wordy it's like a full

01:00:04.280 summary of what you're talking about yes they actually did really well it was judged by a guy

01:00:07.400 called sherman alexi who's one of these guys they made us study back in english at university he was a

01:00:12.360 native american writer and he judged it and he he they received uh it was it was it was included

01:00:19.560 anyway in the annual best american poetry anthology once he said he was the chinese name and immediately

01:00:24.840 he was accused of yellow face of course but you're forcing us to do yellow face what are we going to

01:00:29.320 do such a funny it does it has a funnier ring to it than blackface doesn't it you made me do yellow 0.99

01:00:35.960 face it's like you yellow yellow bellied yellow faced it sounds like some sort of juvenile insult

01:00:43.320 yellow face yeah i know it's from back to the future um so is it really no but you know when

01:00:47.800 he calls him yellow he's like don't call me yellow um of course probably shouldn't shouldn't be saying

01:00:52.200 any of that um according to so anyway it goes on and on and oh yeah and it reminds it reminds us of

01:00:57.080 this joe's carol oates tweet she's that novelist and um she said in 2022 a friend who is a literary agent

01:01:03.080 told me that he cannot even get editors to read first novels by young white male writers no matter

01:01:07.640 how good they're just not interested this is heartbreaking for writers who may in fact be

01:01:11.880 brilliant and critical of their own privilege she lost it right at the end there so close if

01:01:16.920 you can't get published as the white man you have to change your name probably in the case you don't

01:01:21.000 actually have this privilege right like guys i just want to get published so i can talk about my

01:01:23.800 privilege yeah but you're so hated and non-privileged that we're not actually going to even publish it

01:01:28.040 she hasn't seen the contradiction there but um yeah this has been the case for ages of course

01:01:32.120 and it just i i didn't even think of it until i just finished um making my notes on this actually

01:01:36.440 i i this happened to me in comedy back when i still did comedy um i wasn't given a gig because

01:01:40.680 i was a straight white man it wasn't even a gig i asked for but someone else had put me forward for

01:01:44.280 it and i sort of wryly pointed this out on twitter with all the uh doxing information taken out and i

01:01:49.240 just got absolutely hammered by the entire comedy industry like big comedians and stuff like jason

01:01:53.400 manford just piled on brutally and cancelled basically and i was the victim i was one who couldn't

01:01:58.520 get work but it was a no one seemed to see that so this is this happens in all the arts um so that

01:02:03.720 was uh choice colors and let me now continue um oh yeah and it's it goes on for now there are still

01:02:10.680 plenty of young white straight men who feel publishing's obsession with identity politics

01:02:15.160 has kept them boxed out and they're angry about it it's not really just a feeling is it they literally

01:02:19.320 are being boxed out aren't they well yeah in all aspects of our civilization the entire western world

01:02:25.800 is boxing out white men it's not really a feeling it's a fact my facts don't care about your feeling

01:02:32.200 i wonder which way it'll make the 16 year old white boys vote

01:02:36.440 yeah fair i wasn't writing poetry at 16 you look like you could have done oh

01:02:41.960 right luca that's it it's the hair isn't it it's the hair it gets more and more absurd well

01:02:48.200 it really can't get more so but equally absurd the first poem to ever get picked up was the

01:02:51.480 yar jar gar ha one salon told me when we first spoke he was referring to one of two poems he

01:02:56.840 published under the name of adele no wankwo in the uh tofu ink arts press that's a real thing

01:03:03.320 sure this guy's not just a correspondent for bbc

01:03:07.720 tofu ink arts is about as lefty as it could i know sounds like a parody anyway he was shocked that

01:03:14.680 the poem got published it contains lines like voodoo practic castor oil drip drip which he said

01:03:20.760 was just nonsense made up creole and they accepted voodoo practic castor oil drip drip yeah see it 0.95

01:03:27.080 works it just works when josh does it um anyway he was influenced of course by various literary hoaxes

01:03:33.880 the urn mali hoax where they pretended uh conservative writers pretended to do modernist poetry and they were

01:03:39.080 lauded and of course our old good friend uh james lindsey had a similar thing didn't he with academic

01:03:44.120 papers shout out james and um and uh yeah and so of course he was inspired by all of those it's another

01:03:51.640 similarly it's just another example isn't it a similarly absurd thing there was another interesting

01:03:55.960 part though where this well there was this one guy he tricked called chris talbot who the free press

01:04:02.520 insist on calling they i don't know why they are still playing that game one of those i can tell it's

01:04:08.120 a bloke from his name um and this is to be fair chris is a unisex name oh how dare you it's a good

01:04:13.560 point sorry they were right to call it a day i mean chris is rarely rarely but it was chris it's

01:04:21.080 rarely a woman that's true that's almost i'm just being a pedant you are just it's that's twice it's

01:04:26.760 why i've missed you so um um i'm just trying to find it where he he and he would this guy would publish

01:04:33.240 here you go this person talbot who josh is saying is a is a legitimate they would would charge double

01:04:41.080 for freelance editing services if you're white and they'd pay marginalized people but not cis white

01:04:47.480 people only the marginalized you know who so the so-called marginalized it's starting to sound like

01:04:52.920 there may be some flaws in this but he'd pay them and not the white people which is extraordinary as 0.94

01:04:57.160 well or would be extraordinary in a normal world anyway this barry guy got two novels published as well

01:05:03.080 under the name of a sab marcy i'm just trying to find this bit where it's kind of annoying i'm trying

01:05:10.120 to scroll on my thing and this thing um it's i'm not sure about this double scrolling technique um

01:05:16.520 basically what happened is he's turned to novels and his he got two novels published but then the

01:05:21.960 second guy it was fine once he found out his real identity because he just says no it was good work

01:05:26.840 it doesn't matter this guy rosenblum he says i didn't care i thought it was funny the work is very good

01:05:31.000 that's what's important to me artists are always putting on a persona so he didn't worry about it at

01:05:35.560 all but the first guy was a guy called derrick white who got so annoyed he said i haven't published a

01:05:41.640 white male author for two years because i don't want to deal with you guys if i know if i'd known

01:05:46.600 you're a white male author i would not have accepted the book that's why you did it that's so explicit

01:05:51.640 i know that's that's what barry's claiming he said to him and of course this guy white denies it

01:05:55.800 he says no no it's not that i don't deal with straight white men but if you looked at the context of

01:05:59.320 the book for white men to write this book is absolutely wrong it'd be unethical for me to

01:06:03.080 publish it it turns out the book makes use of the n-word but hey hey we coined it all right 1.00

01:06:10.600 this guy barry claims it was used ironically and it was necessary for the authenticity of the story

01:06:14.840 absolutely so what he did he based it on his girlfriend his experience and just and she says

01:06:18.760 like yeah it was his ex-girlfriend she's like yeah it was it was it was it was something it was my

01:06:22.600 experience but he pretended to be her basically used like a name and this guy felt deceived and um

01:06:29.320 but it goes on the guy kind of outs himself a little bit by saying all this stuff about how

01:06:34.680 he doesn't really take white guys anymore so and by the way how white is this this is a white guy

01:06:40.120 who's so white he's called derrick white but he won't take white men he said he like the anti

01:06:46.520 uh nominative determinism isn't it yeah yeah he says he's published white guys he goes look i mean so

01:06:52.120 many of us are just trying to do the right thing yeah some of my best publications are white guys yeah

01:06:56.520 yeah yeah i've published too many white guys i do ignore submissions because if you know what

01:07:00.360 it's like in the publishing world i receive tons of submissions and they're usually white guys and

01:07:03.880 it's just not interesting i mean i'm a white guy so i'm just interested in other material other

01:07:07.480 people's viewpoints just a kind of wild kind of backtracking just throwing everything at it it's

01:07:11.960 just he goes you can call it affirmative action you can call it what you want i'm calling it racism

01:07:16.200 because you know i'm they call me a liberal but that's what i'm calling it um i was trying to give

01:07:19.720 someone a chance i think it's harder for black women to get published well it's obviously not is it 1.00

01:07:23.880 because he's changed his name to black woman to get published but they just double down on this

01:07:27.720 sort of illusory reality of like 1948 or something i think the the elephant in the room here is what

01:07:34.360 the publishers really think is regardless of whether they have the name of the person they prefer the

01:07:40.920 poems of the white people because they they're giving them awards they're publishing them and they find 0.75

01:07:46.760 that actually maybe um some of the urban black women that are writing poetry are not quite to their 1.00

01:07:53.480 standards which is okay you know you're going to have preferences the best let's just say the best

01:07:58.360 writers have been white men not always straight but they've been white and they've been i think

01:08:04.360 you want to go poetry what milton done you want to go shelley byron you can go whoever you like right

01:08:10.360 you can go through the whole thing it's it's a lot of white elliott it's a lot of white books

01:08:14.200 plays we've got shakespeare and a few others novels what dostoevsky toll story herman hesser

01:08:20.280 canute hampson whoever you like tolkien uh dickens uh zola balzer i'm just i'm just saying

01:08:26.680 tell you've studied literature and who are the who else have you got i'm not trying to be harsh

01:08:30.600 women you've got charlotte bronte jane austen black writers akaby

01:08:36.760 who and that's it that's it oh no ralph ellison wrote invisible man that was alexander dumas

01:08:42.440 james baldwin it you look it's just the reality i'm sorry i'm not trying to be um

01:08:46.600 um you know on brand for this podcast or anything um how dare you i know i'm so sorry uh so yeah i

01:08:54.360 mean and just a comment on it came from this australian writer matthew sinai and he makes

01:08:58.920 the kind of liberal typical i mean he says it's a sort of reasonable liberal voguis

01:09:03.400 voguis privileging of increasingly arcane identity categories not only hurts the arts in general terms

01:09:08.120 it hurts budding artists especially those are from so-called marginalized groups quote the soft

01:09:12.680 bigotry of low expectations that's just a very liberal phasia here quite often co-signs these

01:09:17.400 writers to an embarrassing spectacle of publishing undercooked and poorly constructed work and of

01:09:22.760 course that is true as well he says the echolalia review project have proven that identity fetishization

01:09:28.440 in the poetry world literally comes at the expense of the art form yeah of course the standards are

01:09:32.760 low if you're not going to insist on any standards and just publish any slop full of question marks

01:09:37.480 and obscenities then of course it will lower the standards you don't need to be any good but the

01:09:40.680 thing is as well good art it doesn't really matter who made it like i've listened to some

01:09:45.240 of charles manson's music and i think it's good i don't approve of the man right no it's okay i don't

01:09:50.360 approve of john lennon as a human being yeah but i like the beatle you like the songs not the killing

01:09:54.760 spree yeah he also wrote with dennis wilson of the beach boys i know yeah that's how it was recorded

01:10:00.120 um the the beach boys were the ones that recorded never learn not to love is that right that was one of

01:10:05.160 the titles um i think it might be one of his most famous songs is home is where you're happy

01:10:11.720 it's quite catchy actually here you go don't never doubt my beach boys manson knowledge never learn not

01:10:17.080 to love is a song recorded by the beach boys um the song is an altered version of cease to exist

01:10:22.040 written by the manson family leader charles manson so oh right okay fair enough yes i'm beach boys is

01:10:26.760 my kind of expert area yeah we're we're sort of opposite ends of the atlantic 1960s equivalent

01:10:31.880 because my favorite band's the beatles yours is the the beach boys isn't it we'll have to fight

01:10:35.800 after in lads hour we'll fight both and i also think pet sounds as an album is much better than

01:10:41.160 anything the beatles put together well that's true but they're just the beach was a completely

01:10:44.840 different level we don't can't get into it now but but they're also um straight white men by the way

01:10:49.560 just to bring it full circle just to try and get a nice closing so i don't really have a closing on

01:10:53.880 that i've already used up all my closes so that's all that's what i had i mean it's a little more

01:10:58.040 trivial topic but i just thought it's kind of this kind of thing that was big a while ago wasn't it

01:11:01.800 like you know the anti-woke stuff it feels like trivial to people who actually want to go into

01:11:06.280 poetry or writing right no that's that could ruin their entire life and when i say trivial i wasted

01:11:12.200 my life doing comedy thinking you know the same thing happened in that you hit against a wall where

01:11:16.360 you realize i'll never know if i'm good enough or not because they're telling me i can't have an

01:11:20.520 agent or can't get anywhere anyway on grounds of my immutable characteristics so it's like i hit that

01:11:26.760 wall as well and then they people can always cite the three guys that have made it james acas or

01:11:30.520 something there's always exceptions but as a general rule you're like oh there's no point

01:11:34.280 me continuing in this because the doors are all shut i can end this on a white pill if you like

01:11:39.480 so i think that you can't pretend by the way to be a black gender fluid woman in comedy as easily 0.68

01:11:44.440 because you've got to be on stage a lot of face paint go on yeah all the face paint is

01:11:47.960 very expensive um yeah well one good thing is that the prevail the prevailing direction that

01:11:55.240 things are going in is that everything's going to be online there's not as many people gatekeeping

01:12:00.440 industries now because you can go directly to an audience online can't you and if your stuff is

01:12:04.360 good people will come to it they're not as gatekeepy as the people who are these editors and publishers

01:12:10.760 people will if they're looking for good poetry won't care nearly as much as these people will and so

01:12:15.720 just go on the internet and do your own thing and that is where you should seek your success make a name

01:12:21.400 for yourself and be self-made don't go via these people because they won't do you any favors and

01:12:26.600 as with many you know bands and artists they come to realize that their agents their publishers

01:12:31.480 their managers screw them over in the end anyway work for yourself yeah dick whittington of the

01:12:36.920 internet is going online and making your fortune no there is something in that of course that's what

01:12:41.400 you've got to do but at the same time there is something self-publishing does lack that kind of

01:12:45.480 that curation you know where you'd rather i mean you'd rather there were still people who were

01:12:50.200 looking for quality and would publish it because when you self-publish i mean look at the publishing

01:12:54.760 world now you walk in any bookshop and it's just you just see this sort of it's just entirely

01:12:59.880 feminine coded it's a shrine to leftism basically it's a shrine to leftism it's always like i hate

01:13:05.640 white people but it's also women it's also women basically run publishing so every book is kind of

01:13:09.560 kind of feminine because who are the best writers it's it's it's difficult white blokes you know it's

01:13:15.880 weird white blokes like like some of the people i listed you know dostoevsky and hamster these people 0.72

01:13:21.640 are all you know it's sort of your crazy white bloke who's inspired doesn't have to be white but it's

01:13:26.520 it's not it's not just it's not done by committee based on what the current political ideology is

01:13:31.560 is what i'm trying to say they don't all have to be white but many were kafka's another one anyway 0.72

01:13:36.600 that's my bit um i'll let you get onto the old comments uh sure okay i'll just borrow that mouth i do

01:13:42.440 like kafka i it was one of those writers where i thought i really need to read the uh read it in

01:13:47.320 its original language to get the sort of gist of it so i was so autistic about reading philosophy that i

01:13:53.400 actually learned french just to read um camus and sartre and all the existentialists even though

01:13:58.520 camus rejected the label but i still lumberman i uh i want to do some kafka on chronicles actually

01:14:04.760 it's really soon yeah but uh i won't be learning german for it ladies and gentlemen well the trial

01:14:09.880 becomes more and more relevant doesn't it it does a person compared her experience to that recently

01:14:14.840 uh the hapsification says a dictatorship of jeremy clarkson is the only solution

01:14:21.400 true pot bellies for all i don't know what it refers to but it's absolutely right i suspect josh's

01:14:26.040 segment uh engage few says jt uh leroy version two a writer publishes a novel based on his childhood

01:14:34.360 as a trans truck stop sex worker and later return uh turns out to be a woman yeah i remember that

01:14:40.440 now the jt leroy is when i was actually working in a bookshop another thing it vaguely reminded me of

01:14:44.040 was the james fray a million little pieces when everyone got obsessed with the fact that he had

01:14:48.280 fictionalized his autobiography and like oprah and everyone like how could you lie to us and to me the

01:14:53.320 whole thing was absurd because it's fiction it once you it's writing anyway when you write down your

01:14:57.640 life story it's not some sort of literal transcript of what happened it's incredibly selective it's

01:15:01.960 filtered through the medium of language i don't want to get too post-modern on you but like

01:15:05.960 it's already writing so the idea that like this you tricked us thinking this this was a literal

01:15:10.520 truth i read the book it was incredibly dramatized account read like fiction anyway they all got went

01:15:16.200 mad because they said it was his life story and it embellished but of course it embellished anyway

01:15:20.440 sorry slight aggression it's inevitable isn't it that you know if bill cosby wrote uh you know an

01:15:26.600 autobiography he's not going to say i made them drink the purple water is he right it's already based on

01:15:31.800 your recollection anyway we could go on and uh hapsification says all this reminds me of the

01:15:37.640 book uh black like me the author john howard griffin pretended to be black by putting shoe polish on his

01:15:44.040 face during the segregation era america we've all been there oh uh yes all right let's go to the video

01:15:54.040 comments harry oh yeah uh if we have any today

01:16:00.120 there's no one even there he is i can see his hair blowing in the wind yes digestically big black

01:16:06.760 tumbleweed of hair something i've noticed is that whenever there is a very hot day there's not a

01:16:12.200 single cloud in the sky you know it's always cooler in the shade and clouds provide shade but cloud seeding

01:16:17.960 sprays silver iodide into the air forcing clouds to turn into rain so we can easily assume that

01:16:23.640 cloud seeding is causing all these unreasonably hot days wait what can we i mean if if cloud

01:16:32.040 seeding is causing the hot days why are the saudis doing it surely that's the last thing a saudi wants

01:16:37.320 is more heat it's like you know what it's not sunny enough in saudi arabia maybe they're just doing it

01:16:41.640 to the west as a bioweapon it's working everyone knows it's always sunny in saudi arabia i would

01:16:49.720 watch that show i really would you've got aircon in here at least i'm in a new build which are like

01:16:55.720 insulated into oblivion my flat is 30 degrees the whole time i've just been asleep for weeks what i do

01:17:03.000 is um i get a fan and just point it to my face and it feels like i've got a poltergeist in the room

01:17:08.680 because my sheet periodically lifts up that's all you can do we need aircon now because of natural

01:17:13.800 climate variance or cloud seeding don't you think and especially the new builds they're just anyway

01:17:20.280 they're too insulated they're too insulated a builder told me it's like it's the amount of

01:17:23.240 insulation next time i meet someone from insulate britain i'm giving them a swirly because i'm just

01:17:27.160 like i've been sweating because of you dickheads yeah it's all right we're not going on i went home 0.86

01:17:31.480 to the lakes in my parents house just totally cool 26 degrees out just because it's an old

01:17:36.520 old house anyway sorry so it's completely irrelevant carry on oh no it was a cloud

01:17:41.480 seeding that sent me on we're reading the written comments oh no no here we are we got 30 years worth

01:17:46.760 of files right here in this computer that are going to bring you down oh no

01:17:57.880 where'd all the finals go

01:17:58.920 we got to definitely write a song about how we do not diddle kids do not diddle kids it's no good

01:18:07.560 diddling kids there is no quicker way for people to think that you are diddling kids than by writing

01:18:12.440 a song about it

01:18:15.960 isn't it a bit weird deception stuff like trump the other day he was like pam bonnie was trying to talk

01:18:21.240 like can i just do you really want you want to talk about it it's so weird epstein there's so serious

01:18:26.440 things it was the weirdest i've ever seen him i said he reminded me of when um the murderer speaks

01:18:31.160 to colombo you know they can well you sure will tell it to me we can if you want i mean really you

01:18:36.760 want to go in this room again like you know well absolutely fine but it's this kind of really weird

01:18:41.080 like obfuscation i was like that's the weirdest i've seen trump let them talk about it he's handled

01:18:46.600 it so poorly it's like you know what you're saying about the british state trying to aggravate

01:18:51.400 people it's sort of like trump with this he's trying to look as guilty as humanly possible

01:18:56.120 it's like i want to be remembered as a kiddie diddler please don't cut that out of context

01:19:03.080 hello let's see it's out of context

01:19:07.640 oh sometimes you forget you're in front of a camp are there any more harry no okay thank you we'll

01:19:14.760 just go through a few comments for the segments then uh russian garbage human says my younger brother 0.84

01:19:19.560 was forced to study some horrific poems a do but oh he's bringing it up actually in the mud i was 0.82

01:19:25.960 just gonna say benjamin zephaniah i did in school but sorry all right interrupted you uh sorry uh a

01:19:31.720 few years back for gcse english and it's all part of the unseen work curriculum uh works that weren't

01:19:38.920 noticed because racism or something uh the british by benjamin yeah i remember is this that poem that

01:19:46.360 was going around about like all the different waves of immigration that was coming to britain

01:19:52.280 he also did that menu one didn't he that was horrific we read a book by him which was even

01:19:56.520 worse called gangster rap and in the end i think someone gets shot and i and in in front of my entire

01:20:02.120 class i'm just like good they were bad people like you've always been based josh that's the

01:20:07.160 yeah this just reminded me i should have said it in the segment maybe or maybe it's boring but

01:20:10.680 i was i was from the home of wordsworth who literally lived in where he's buried and we didn't do

01:20:16.760 wordsworth at a level we did six women poets oh really all this stuff was already happening then

01:20:22.040 at university we're forced to do colonial this and that post-colonial thingy so we didn't get to

01:20:25.960 read conrad we get to read a kb's deconstruction of conrad calling him racist and it's just like

01:20:31.160 can we actually read the canon first and even before i knew that i was like right wing or something

01:20:35.320 i didn't really know i just was going can we read the canon can we read the classics i was

01:20:38.520 so furious about it starts intuitively doesn't it starts intuitively yeah and um you know they're

01:20:43.160 forcing us to read all this derrida and it's all this garbage anyway i was uh well i actually

01:20:47.160 recently did on chronicles uh conrad's heart of darkness and uh yeah i thought it was a really

01:20:52.440 really interesting read there's a lot of um very base readings that you can take from that if you want

01:20:57.640 to um despite what your school teachers might tell you what it's actually about it's funny you bring

01:21:03.800 that up actually because i remember being at university and the thing that sort of started winding

01:21:08.440 me up about the left because i went into university not hostile to the left um but not really of the

01:21:14.520 modern left either um but they were just being rude to people and i found that sort of unforgivable

01:21:21.160 and it annoyed me and i was like you're so rude i don't want to be associated with you i don't want 0.58

01:21:24.760 to be in the same room as you you horrible people and from there it slowly spiraled to i hate you 0.90

01:21:30.200 can happen rude people don't get the vote that's true i hate rude people uh uh jimbo g says uh what 0.51

01:21:40.840 gets me about the government replacement plan is that they've done it with complete impunity there

01:21:46.680 doesn't appear to be any consideration of them facing consequences for what they've done in fact

01:21:51.400 they seem to be revolted that the general public aren't begging for more uh we're being run by foreign 1.00

01:21:56.680 spies they should have their assets stripped uh hard drives checked and put in prison well honestly

01:22:03.560 i genuinely thought in my naivety that the murder of david amos would have actually been some sort

01:22:12.200 of turning point in the establishment because i thought well actually it's one of you now that has

01:22:17.000 actually been killed because of the mass immigration that you've brought into the country 1.00

01:22:22.280 and instead they just used it as an excuse to crack down on online censorship online stuff yeah

01:22:27.880 never let a good crisis go to waste yeah yeah i was like right again beyond that stunned me and also

01:22:33.080 when this the speaker you know when there were people intimidated and the speaker actually changed

01:22:36.920 the the rules on that day to avoid the gaza vote whatever it was avoid i come in exact technicality

01:22:42.920 but he he was responding to threats that's when i realized oh because the conventional wisdom is oh when

01:22:48.040 it happens to you it'll be different and you just don't care about the person they can't even protect

01:22:51.080 themselves now or well it's that's the really disturbing thing well not the really seven bits

01:22:55.640 yeah that's not even true they can't even protect themselves and you you'd think okay well it was

01:23:00.920 david amos so wasn't their life was it was someone else's life you're still in power but then when you

01:23:06.200 look at mps like jess phillips and other such types it's like they're gonna lose their seat yeah and and

01:23:11.960 yet still there's no pivot no there's no there's no stop stop to it they just we just need different

01:23:18.440 people in power and fuzzy toaster says you're being racist yes but that's right wing yes that's

01:23:24.920 bad you're a bad person for you bane at the end there yeah bane all right do you want to go through

01:23:31.640 yours sure someone online a segment about 16 year olds i know how to speak gen alpha tell them that

01:23:38.040 josh's muse streak is 12 years no cap bro is an aura farming rizzler and you should yeet your vote

01:23:46.200 at him for maximum gat

01:23:51.880 that sounded like one of those poems that i read the annoying thing is i've spent enough time on

01:23:56.120 the internet that i know what those things mean i know i just don't approve it makes me wonder is

01:24:01.160 has any generation bastardized the english language harder than gen alpha and they've barely been

01:24:06.280 around yet to be fair um i'm very much against slang generally if if it deviates from the 19th century

01:24:15.000 except with a few exceptions from with some 1960s slang which i feel is useful like calling someone cool

01:24:21.320 you know that's 1960s saying you dig it and stuff like that well maybe not that that's not aged very

01:24:26.280 well as i dig it man wizard um derek power says so if you can vote using a bank card does that mean

01:24:34.200 the populace are like lobbying groups funding money into the government um i'm not entirely sure how

01:24:42.200 that works do you know what they mean um i'm not entirely oh he's alluding to the fact that it'll be

01:24:49.960 like scanning it on a machine and you're actually paying with your card i don't think it's you actually

01:24:54.600 have to pay it's just a proof of id but um i think you're probably joking and uh canis familiaris

01:25:02.200 says let's be real the voting age reduction has more to do with uh the relative demographics of

01:25:07.240 older and younger brits than anything else that's also true although the boomers are surprisingly

01:25:13.080 stubborn in their leftism and then i can read a couple more can't i northblood says in my mind it

01:25:20.280 should be show id when you vote and to vote you must be at least 25 and pay tax if you're on the

01:25:26.840 dole uh tough for you get a job here here simple as if it were up to me there wouldn't be one what a

01:25:34.760 job no jobs for paupers no back to the workhouse yeah we had it right we figured it all out like oh

01:25:42.520 sorry you want you want free money oh you're gonna have to go to the workhouse sorry smash up some

01:25:46.760 rocks work some machinery or something lose some fingers have you finished right to read if you're

01:25:50.440 mine of course i'm saying mine but the ones under my bit go for it or you're mine i don't own them

01:25:54.600 um sophie what reminds me of when female author carmen moller won some sort of big literary prize

01:26:00.680 and included a huge cast prize yeah turned out calm was three white dudes yeah it was three spanish

01:26:06.360 blokes yeah and they presented themselves as a single woman that's how it takes three blokes adds up 1.00

01:26:10.760 to a single woman now because they're less valuable um omar our these days they'll publish obvious 0.90

01:26:18.280 ai generated books if you train it off black data can it really be said the author isn't black

01:26:22.360 hmm i think this is going to catch on with hilarious results good point um az desert rat is that like

01:26:28.680 az or az is it arizona arizona okay probably andrew dole lives out there now this kind of shows

01:26:34.280 that one does not need to be skilled or talented to get published in some of these publications

01:26:37.720 the person just has to sprout the correct ideals with enough swear words absolutely correct

01:26:42.280 and um lord inquisitor hector rex i'm generally tempted to make as many fake personas as possible

01:26:47.080 and submit various pieces of work and see who will pay me good plan and jan harvey says there's some

01:26:53.560 there's someone who knows how to manipulate the system to an expert level indeed

01:26:59.560 do you want to do the mentions sure is josh back back no i'm just back um for for a little bit i'm

01:27:05.960 covering for people but i you know i said i would do this this this shouldn't be a surprise but i'm

01:27:10.920 not back full time it's the worst walkout ever you're like nigel farage you retire like multiple 0.99

01:27:15.480 times then come back remember dropped into your safe seat over there referred to it as being like

01:27:21.480 seinfeld where i quit my job and then come back gorge yeah yeah that's why i said zia yusuf was like

01:27:26.520 yeah it's like yeah i was i was letting off steam no one takes you seriously exactly yeah yeah that's

01:27:31.960 that's true that is yeah i still don't have another one yet and i'm gonna be on the dole

01:27:37.800 soon as well you didn't put myself too well did you but that's when you're young enough you can

01:27:41.480 do stupid stuff like that it's all right i can get do stuff to get me by get invited in here enough 0.84

01:27:46.520 you dossers are on holiday all the time aren't they so i've not had a day on holiday not you

01:27:51.400 the only employee guy's calling you a dosser hey i've put in five years almost in this company

01:27:57.400 and uh jan have you says good morning lads nice to see you on low to see it again josh

01:28:03.240 interested to see your next youtube videos well as you're all such lovely people i'll give you a

01:28:07.880 spoiler my next video is going to be a video about camping and how it changed my philosophy on life

01:28:14.040 very it's going to actually be quite deep and i'm spending a lot of time on it that's why it's

01:28:18.440 taking so long nick was raking me over the culls yeah because i promoted your youtube on you know

01:28:24.600 channel don't don't have to name it it's called nick dixon and um and you subscribe to 120 000

01:28:30.440 views whatever and even on my little channel which is a testament to you but then you then

01:28:33.960 you didn't do any videos that's all i was there are three videos on there any more though but you're

01:28:37.960 doing it now i've got two on the way you're like a perfectionist you're getting it perfect i am yeah

01:28:42.040 um it's one of those videos i've been wanting to make for years and so i really want to do it well

01:28:46.120 you go full ray mirrors and try to survive in the wild no i bring food with me and i have a tent and

01:28:53.560 things and also you're not allowed to go full ray mirrors without landowner permission like you do

01:28:58.280 it's very ecologically damaging to do that sort of stuff like hunting and gathering in the likes it

01:29:03.080 would be very funny though if you just like knock on the landlord's door you know guy who owns the

01:29:06.920 land excuse me do you mind if i go ray mirrors full ray mirrors to be fair um when i've been camping

01:29:12.760 on dartmoor i've the landowners just sort of walked up to me it's like oh you're having a camp

01:29:16.760 it's like oh yeah um lovely day isn't it it's like yeah it is and he's like oh this is actually um all

01:29:21.080 my land and it's like oh um is it all right for us to be he's like yeah of course um as long as you

01:29:25.640 pick up your rubbish and it's all nice we shook hands and wished each other a nice day good english

01:29:30.520 yeah exactly strong bonds just some lads out having a good time i think he remembered back to his

01:29:35.720 childhood well that's all we've got time for on the podcast today ladies and gentlemen thank you for

01:29:41.080 joining me uh both again uh and that's your fill of uh firm dixon johnson for today but if you would

01:29:48.760 like another one before the weekend you can come and join us on lads hour in half an hour sluts what

01:29:54.920 we'll also be joined by uh dan and harry discussing the bro code and the unspoken etiquette of being

01:30:02.680 bros and lads and friends so uh if not have a good weekend see you next time bye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 18, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1211

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