The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1216

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus seat is for friday the 25th of

00:00:04.840 july 2025 i'm joined by nick lewis and some guy who just happened to barge in off the street how

00:00:11.940 you doing tommy i'm good mate yeah good good to see you um and uh yeah so the big show today

00:00:16.840 actually really big yeah uh and i'm enjoying being the least controversial on the panel for once it's

00:00:21.480 a great day you are dragging us further to the right but yeah so today we're going to be talking

00:00:28.920 about how um frankly britain is ready to explode uh everyone can feel the tension in the air

00:00:33.480 and it's worth uh worth exploring i think we're going to talk about the online dystopian bill

00:00:38.440 which honestly i just i mean the americans are slaughtering us over this online at the moment

00:00:43.680 and they're right to frankly and then we're going to discuss how corbyn's going to destroy the labor

00:00:48.160 party which i mean i'm i'm pretty cool with it yeah so it's like watching a spider and a wasp

00:00:53.400 having a fight yeah yeah chickens coming home to roof yeah exactly yeah uh right so let's let's

00:00:58.600 begin so the protests have still been continuing in epping uh jack hadders was down there uh yesterday

00:01:04.780 covering it all and it's um all very uh local and polite and constrained like it wasn't crazy it's

00:01:13.680 not far-right lunatics goggle-eyed weirdos or anything it's just normal local people who are

00:01:18.840 concerned about their own children and why there are a bunch of foreign unvetted migrant men there

00:01:24.640 as in fact one local woman explains i think we just have a have her explain it to us the hotel

00:01:30.680 needs shutting um and we're out here to save our children to protect them there's unvetted men

00:01:38.640 in the hotel and they shouldn't be it needs clothing and what have you heard from being down here

00:01:43.940 what do you mean what have you heard about anything that's happened with the migrants being around here

00:01:48.380 oh there's been loads of stuff my daughter works in the high road in a hairdressing salon and they've

00:01:54.860 had them come in there intimidating them other people who have salons down here they've had them

00:02:00.740 coming in um there was the sexual assault my daughter used to go to weapon saint john's

00:02:07.960 and she used to walk home from school being ogled by them spoken to by them

00:02:13.540 wolf whistled it's just not on it's not on so that gives you an impression of what's what's been

00:02:19.820 going on in epping because the thing is we we focus on the the the worst aspect of it which is the

00:02:25.060 the obviously the individual cruel the the crimes alleged to have been committed but it creates a

00:02:30.200 kind of culture of tension just to have them around because they don't integrate they're

00:02:34.020 intimidating people around you know and so uh people have been protesting constantly since uh the

00:02:41.320 protests began and here they are outside of the civic offices again jack uh recording and they've

00:02:48.740 won it seems they've won the council voted just stay right yep yeah the council has unanimously voted

00:02:54.860 to urge the government to close the hotel housing the asylum seekers uh after the demonstration now the

00:03:00.400 council are still talking tough which is interesting the conservative leader chris whitbread says uh i'm

00:03:06.580 concerned that the peaceful protests are being infiltrated by the extremes of politics

00:03:10.880 it's like i don't see any evidence for that it's took them five years though for the council because

00:03:15.940 these have been here five years yeah so they're all fine now finding the courage and what this shows

00:03:20.340 is that the public have given that courage and you know what i find excite exciting is that mothers

00:03:25.800 like this who are talking now have fought this for years they didn't have the they didn't have the

00:03:31.000 courage or they didn't feel the confidence to say it and what you're seeing now across the country

00:03:36.780 is britain's mums just speaking yeah standing up we've we've had enough yeah people have had enough

00:03:42.120 yeah it's encouraging to watch yeah because when the mums come out you know it's it's over yeah and

00:03:47.140 also it's just in the government's positions it's indefensible she's like look they come to the they

00:03:50.600 come and they harass our daughters they're staring at them and so on what can you say to that it's just

00:03:54.340 a normal mum telling it how it is i mean i dread to think what their opinion of that is i mean but the

00:03:58.680 thing is remember they they are they are still tough talking so basically they haven't actually

00:04:02.740 admitted they've done anything wrong yet uh for example i mean no notice the uh chris whitbread

00:04:07.420 the leader here being like well i'm worried that the residents peaceful protests being infiltrated

00:04:11.540 by the extremes of politics like what are you talking about where are they you've just got a

00:04:15.940 bunch of normal people in epping saying look we're sick of this it's been five years this is it's got

00:04:20.600 to stop and then just quick thing then you've got the police chief superintendent saying we won't

00:04:25.340 tolerate anyone thinking they can come and cause trouble so listen just stop you've just done exactly what

00:04:29.960 these people wanted so say look we're we're really sorry actually we're sorry that this was forced on

00:04:34.980 you we're sorry we went along with it you know we shouldn't have had we shouldn't ruined the place

00:04:39.800 that you live and we shouldn't have made it so that kids can get molested by these strangers it's kind

00:04:44.400 of unfortunate that force is the only way to get anything done in this country but the precedent has

00:04:47.700 been set by other people you complain you make a stink you threaten and actually things get done that's

00:04:52.340 the only way i find it even with regards to was it jack here the amount of now citizen journalists

00:05:01.060 they can't twist it they can't change the narrative they can't control the narrative

00:05:05.800 they the the videos that were shown of antifa getting bust out and bust it bust in by the police

00:05:11.120 without citizen journalism they would have totally controlled the narrative no one would have been

00:05:15.740 able to pick up on this there's so many now that's what i find great i'll try and give them all a

00:05:20.200 shout out say to the public get behind these people anyone on their live streaming anyone up

00:05:24.840 asking questions directly of the public getting their opinions is so important to add to that as

00:05:30.040 well there was a guy um i've got his name i think marcus maybe uh he was streaming for six to seven

00:05:35.820 hours on the ground like consistently and that's where he picked up some of the footage of antifa and

00:05:42.080 stand up to racism you know were being bust out of the area and even the police officers saying that it

00:05:48.960 was a bus and you can leap into action with people like behind the desk or or back at home i started

00:05:56.880 then you know investigating whether there was some sort of coordination between the councils um and of

00:06:04.780 course the police if there's any funding as well but like you said you need citizen journalists to be

00:06:10.980 there consistently so that people can sit back and wait and if they see something they can jump in and

00:06:16.180 investigate it's the unions funding this right yes unions funding it yeah the unions in bed with

00:06:20.940 the labor party the government yeah so the government aren't getting their hands dirty but

00:06:24.720 their partners are doing exactly the same this is nothing new either you still remember my oldham

00:06:29.240 campaign where they marked hundreds and hundreds of muslims wearing balaclavas to a family event in a

00:06:34.900 family estate they marched to miles to come in and disrupt it and ruin it and then the media used to

00:06:39.800 just pump the headline trouble at tommy robinson event far right thugs so they they wanted to take the

00:06:44.660 narrative away from the mums here who were protesting and turn it into a free-for-all turn it into a

00:06:49.440 violent confrontation so then they could play they could use that to silence the legitimate concerns

00:06:54.760 of the community they can't get away from it they can't get away from it now you know what's interesting

00:06:58.840 is uh victoria derbyshire on bbc news night uh did a piece on this and they were interviewing people

00:07:03.100 at the time and in fact very similar to what you just said i've just been talking to the council leader

00:07:07.700 and he said that tommy robinson is expected here what do you think of that all right look i'm mixed

00:07:15.440 race okay i'm gonna say that i'm mixed race i'm i'm old enough to remember the bmp tommy robinson is

00:07:22.940 not racist as far as you're concerned he is welcome here i think he for me personally i don't mean he's

00:07:28.440 a good idea oh because of the amount of people he'll bring from outside the area at the moment it's a

00:07:34.080 local thing for local people who want to voice their opinion and want the government to do

00:07:40.080 something about it you bring tommy robinson here with all the good intentions in the world

00:07:44.800 i don't think he's going to end well it's right so that that guy i think has got a great point and

00:07:51.040 uh as i understand it you haven't been down to wepping no he was right so remember i watched a

00:07:55.380 video and it was some girl saying tommy can you come down here when people ask for something i find it

00:07:59.600 hard not to say yeah it was a day a day or two days i sat thinking about it and i thought i'm

00:08:05.080 going to give them the ammunition that the media want and probably that the government want to

00:08:08.660 rubbish what they're doing so then i made the decision it's best to stay away from it yeah

00:08:12.780 and i've reached out to me as well i did a few people did give me their concerns and i took the

00:08:17.200 concerns and i thought if i went there it becomes about me the chance will be about me the issue will

00:08:23.320 be about me it won't be about the man that sexually assaulted a child in a school uniform it won't be

00:08:27.100 about the mums in the area so yeah i've made the decision not to go what this is going to show

00:08:31.540 when they win because i believe they're now gone the council go to the home office telling them

00:08:35.600 they need to close it hopefully now the home office make decisions to close it it shows this

00:08:40.520 is one hotel you've got one in norwich where two men have raped from that hotel you've got them

00:08:44.740 across the country it shows the local community get out yeah you you have power you have power get

00:08:50.160 out you can do this i mean the the good people of epping have been such a great case study in this

00:08:53.760 yeah and actually i i just want to congratulate yourself and everyone else like the online right

00:08:57.940 well it'd be so easy for us to get to epping and just go down there and make trouble and make a

00:09:02.240 make a scene out of it but that wouldn't have helped and i think this chap's exactly right like

00:09:05.900 look no we the locals can handle this and they have we've done it and they've absolutely won and

00:09:10.660 so basically we can just cheer our guys on uh of course this didn't stop the media from lying about

00:09:15.360 it right so i saw you tweet this and i was i was honestly i was apoplectic watching this it was just

00:09:21.740 like because they've obviously they lie about me all the time they lie about you they lie about

00:09:25.240 bloody everyone but this is just the the depth of the lies i suppose the last summer of rioting was

00:09:31.240 was over the southport killings and axel rudy cabana and all of that and there was some false

00:09:37.080 information in the mix this is a genuine which starts with a genuine anger against a person who's

00:09:44.600 alleged to have assaulted a child which is pretty serious of course it is and we have to hope i suppose

00:09:50.760 we don't have flashpoint incidents like that yeah and we can all agree that that is disgusting and

00:09:56.020 wrong and we don't want that and we want that person dealt with but the trouble is there is also

00:10:02.180 an angle where it gets weaponized for other agendas and and the misinformation thing is really

00:10:08.300 really worrying so if you're spreading stuff around on facebook um as was done by tommy robinson i

00:10:14.060 believe started it saying they're all in this hotel get down there and then it's completely false

00:10:18.940 and then also within that like actually how does that help and that's simply impossible because

00:10:26.320 and i i've been as a free speech warrior i've been banging this drum on your behalf from this for

00:10:30.880 years you got when what year did you get deplatformed from facebook 2018 yeah when it was just a

00:10:36.300 complete so it was pressing of you to predict this uh problem in epping seven years later

00:10:41.320 she's talking about misinformation she's going about misinformation and then feeding the public who

00:10:47.320 were listening to the show total misinformation she's got a great podcast though oh i didn't just

00:10:51.400 say podcast host i'm like i want to hear that hold on who even is she no idea she's a podcaster

00:10:55.780 of some sort oh she's a podcaster i'm not i'm not going to cast shade because we're podcasters but

00:10:58.860 the uh the point is jerry uh jeremy vine just has her on to just spew lies these are just

00:11:04.320 untruths they should put one of you on for the other side right why com regulations exactly where's

00:11:10.080 the offcom aren't going to come for them though are they you know come for gb news all the time

00:11:13.880 um and so i i thought that what what the what i think this shows is a general sense of tension in

00:11:21.520 the country right and i think that i mean you know we all speak to lots of people on the online

00:11:26.680 for right but we also speak to lots of people in you know the normal world can we have a quick uh how

00:11:32.500 do you guys feel about the way things are going at the moment how do i feel i feel there's been a

00:11:37.300 mass awakening i feel the public are ready i feel that we've been waiting 15 years for this we've been

00:11:42.740 waiting for the public to be ready to listen and understand what's happening and there's been a

00:11:48.440 catalogue of things that have resulted in this from the rapes even from covid the question of the media

00:11:54.240 the lies the afghan the recent story of the afghans being brought in people knowing they're being gaslit

00:11:59.540 by the by the media and the government on so many issues and i think now and i i see it so people

00:12:05.280 might not get to see it i see it when i walk down the street i was sat this this week i was in um

00:12:09.500 a place called albeer there's no english there really yeah i'm sat in a restaurant three different

00:12:13.840 people come up to me and at that restaurant about september 5th i remember the first time i

00:12:18.260 interviewed you in like 2017 and we went to a hotel in london and we're we're going to this hotel

00:12:23.820 set up and it's just like rough looking men would just spot him and just be like come on love what

00:12:29.280 you're doing tommy you know this is this years ago back before back when you were still satan

00:12:32.880 to everyone you know and it was it was just you know and i i get recognized enough on the street

00:12:37.400 it's always posh people yeah exactly right but let's watch this because this this is just one

00:12:42.440 of those clips where it's everything about the current moment is contained within it

00:12:47.520 i just think it's really really important for people to understand that there are no safe and

00:12:55.580 legal routes for refugees to come to this country this is the only way they can come here

00:12:59.940 it's on a boat to pay to pay yeah they've got the whole of europe why should why should we put

00:13:08.920 that burden on the rest of europe but do you know we're not doing we're still we we still have

00:13:15.620 to take responsibility for the fact that for the fact that we have a lot of stakes a lot of stakes

00:13:21.040 in the in the conflicts and the climate crisis that causes people to be refugees and have to come

00:13:26.320 another country they're not choosing to leave their country at their home their children their

00:13:31.760 parents that really feels like the current moment that's the uh english beginning to hate in real

00:13:43.680 time actual footage absolutely that and the thing is you've got a woman who's obviously had quite a

00:13:49.060 privileged upbringing she's probably had a great education she's very genteel she comes from the

00:13:54.080 sort of liberal democrat wing of politics you know what i mean i'm sure she's a lovely person i think

00:13:58.320 that's the problem they're just naive and stupid exactly that's a nice person that is exactly it

00:14:03.340 and she she's got all of these abstract high-minded oh but they're refugees they need help and then

00:14:09.160 you can hear the guy on the ground who he comes from the bottom man you can tell that this guy has

00:14:13.780 just had enough i'm not taking your your liberal platitudes i'm not i'm not being all soft about it no

00:14:19.300 you're uh and i'm gonna bloody tell you and you can feel the rage that's boiling up and the thing

00:14:24.500 is they're well aware right they're well aware so there was a report from the british future think

00:14:29.720 tank the other day uh that just declared that basically britain's a powder keg and we're expecting

00:14:34.400 a sum of riots because the thing is like the epping thing is bad right but it could be worse

00:14:40.820 right and that's what we saw in southport right yeah obviously a illegal molesting a child terrible

00:14:45.960 but it's it's not a mass murder and what happens when one does this summer well exactly and and the

00:14:52.520 the thing is you you wonder you i mean we can tell but the establishment is just sat there every day

00:14:57.340 they wake and go please no mass murder please please just don't murder a bunch of people and so this is

00:15:02.540 what this uh report is talking about um and they haven't got enough prison space to lock up all the

00:15:08.660 mums tweeting about it yep they absolutely haven't i mean so one the the important quote from this i

00:15:13.880 think is uh that it said that the successive governments have failed to take uh sustained

00:15:18.300 proactive measures to address social cohesion and that a doom loop of an action crisis and

00:15:24.080 piecemeal response has failed to strengthen the foundations of communities across country so what

00:15:28.000 that means is they're screwed right they know that the country is completely fractured and it's mostly

00:15:34.700 the english people are just furious at this point like everyone can tell we've been completely sold out

00:15:40.360 that's been their biggest fear is the sort of you know british majority whatever you want to call

00:15:43.980 them finally get out on the streets and say enough is enough the weird thing is every single action

00:15:48.780 they've done has been provoking that that's what i always come back to like this is exactly what you

00:15:53.080 would do if you wanted civil unrest you'd smuggle in thousands of secret afghans you'd lock up a

00:15:58.800 mother for a tweet you know the amount of things they don't yeah and you wouldn't bet you would they

00:16:01.740 didn't go back on it you you're doubling down on it yeah so and then they've called them far right as

00:16:06.620 well you're just racist you're just far right thugs you know we your concerns aren't valid

00:16:11.240 release actual criminals popping off champagne put in people for tweets you would do all of this if

00:16:15.960 you wanted to create civil unrest yeah and yeah that's why a lot of people you know seem to think

00:16:21.680 and believe as well that it's it's basically by design well keir starmer said it was uh

00:16:27.060 the topic of immigration this was done by design so the labor party had been pretty open about it

00:16:33.400 yeah it can't not be exactly everyone might accidentally do this right if they wanted to

00:16:37.720 stop the boats they stopped the bloody boats it'd take 10 minutes realistically the navy would stop it

00:16:43.120 donald trump gets in literally it ends yeah they could stop it none of them want to stop it but what

00:16:49.380 they are going to try and stop is you so look at this starmer vows strengthened crackdown on rioters

00:16:55.420 so he's already uh come out number 10 has already come out and uh made the point that look if you do

00:17:01.380 something we're going to come for you now starmer hasn't done a direct statement to the country yet

00:17:06.920 like he did after southport which was an atrocious statement but um but they say uh in a sign that

00:17:12.940 keir starmer is not willing to tolerate a repeat of the riots that followed the southport murders

00:17:16.060 the home office has issued a statement saying is prepared for any disorder that might erupt this year

00:17:20.260 a government spokesman said while the public have a right to protest against the current situation

00:17:24.200 we will never tolerate unlawful or violent behavior working closely with the police we have thorough

00:17:29.100 and well-tested contingency plans uh in place to deal with any public disorder which have strengthened

00:17:33.920 since last year's shameful scenes so i love that even at the very end there you're bad people you

00:17:39.400 are shameful how dare you get out on the streets and be angry about what we what the people we bring

00:17:44.660 into this country do to your children okay they won't tolerate anyone coming out against it but they

00:17:49.720 are tolerating the migrants they're bringing in doing it they are tolerating it yeah there's no strong

00:17:55.440 there's no strong words or strong action against look this isn't going to happen again we know why

00:18:01.560 you're scared we know communities are scared we're going to make sure everyone's vetted they're not

00:18:04.920 going to be dumped into your communities without anyone knowing who they are there's no mention of

00:18:08.560 it they don't even mention it that's what a government who didn't hate us would say this government hates

00:18:13.960 us and so they're telling us listen we are bringing in what is essentially a privileged client group

00:18:18.660 we're bringing them in we're going to put them up in hotels at your expense and if you come out and

00:18:23.120 object to this we are going to oppress you we are going to crack down on you is literally word for

00:18:29.660 word what they're saying it's like right okay so this is why when when rupert loads on look the state

00:18:33.440 is the enemy he is absolutely right the british state is the enemy of the english people and they

00:18:38.540 just say it you know it didn't work you know last summer when they've done this i thought it would

00:18:43.620 work and october 26th when i was in jail it didn't work the numbers doubled i thought because i thought

00:18:50.500 their intentions with lucy connelly with me with all these people who spoke cracking down live

00:18:55.200 streaming it showing you their the arrest trying to put fear into the public that we can lock anyone

00:18:59.500 up we can lock granddads up look we're done peter lynch we don't care we'll lock you all up i thought

00:19:03.540 that would put fear in the public and they wouldn't come out and demonstrate they come out in double the

00:19:07.480 numbers on the september 13th there's gonna be far more than they've ever seen so that ain't gonna

00:19:12.040 work it's just like covid with lockdowns exactly the same playbook exactly the same you know you look

00:19:18.020 across the pond to like australia canada all of those countries and how they the government's

00:19:22.740 dealt with dissent over there and they did it here it's kind of it's the same pattern you're seeing

00:19:29.880 it's just a different topic we've had enough though you've been doing this for too long yeah

00:19:34.360 the british have had enough that might work 10 years ago yeah that's not working now everyone's awake

00:19:40.520 everyone knows what you're doing they know you're flooding the country they know our country's futures at risk

00:19:45.020 they know their children are not going to be safe they're looking around it used to be towns like

00:19:48.600 luton now they're looking around everywhere yeah thinking hold on it's changed i met a woman i met

00:19:53.260 her in norway recently when i was in norway and she didn't like me and she said now they've she lives

00:19:57.980 in north wales yeah she said they put all the hotels in north wales near our little beautiful area

00:20:02.140 she said her daughters can't walk down the street everyone sees it now suddenly she understands you

00:20:06.220 everyone can see it now so uh the they can talk tough all they like but they are still deeply afraid of

00:20:12.260 this again this is the standard these are not like far right papers i'm citing here but they say that

00:20:17.380 keir starmer fears a repeat of last summer's riots uh and he demands urgent action from ministers to

00:20:22.580 repair fraying britain because they're they're convinced that the social fabric is basically

00:20:26.980 frayed beyond repair and this is going to cause us to kind of i don't know i mean some kind of riots

00:20:33.680 uprisings god only knows what they think is going to happen uh and angela rainer just said well look

00:20:38.800 it's immigration that's having this profound impact on society so what exactly do you think

00:20:43.660 can be done i mean we all know what they would need to do is just start deporting people but

00:20:47.740 uh they're not going to do it so they're they're afraid and i think that you're right on this i do

00:20:52.320 think that people can see it everywhere i mean i i talk to like just you know random people whenever

00:20:58.740 i go traveling and the concept the topic of immigration comes up everywhere i i had a weird like

00:21:04.480 interaction with the guy on the train he was a businessman from wales and like we're sat you

00:21:09.160 know i'm sat on one side of the table he sat on the other and the woman part putting the uh the

00:21:14.320 drinks down the aisle bumps him and they have a little back and forth and because suddenly like

00:21:18.060 the sort of bubbles of isolation people have from the trains have been broken suddenly we're all

00:21:21.620 talking and then she wanders off and he just starts talking to me he doesn't know who i am

00:21:24.760 and he's you know we just start talking he's like yeah i think i'm gonna have to revert reform you

00:21:28.260 know i'm like i'm just he doesn't know who i am and he's like yeah and i was like oh why is that

00:21:32.120 it's immigration i was like oh good luck with that but like the point being even just random

00:21:38.000 people on trains are starting to talk to you about this stuff even though you know this is in the people

00:21:42.200 in the public conscience you know when people i said for years do you know everyone's been silenced

00:21:46.680 the entire country's been silenced so people have been thinking saying but not free to say it

00:21:50.880 so when that bubble bursts they're not just gonna fucking they're not gonna whisper it anymore

00:21:54.660 they're gonna be screaming it when they look and realize look what you've done to our country

00:21:58.560 there's no coming back from this we've you've sold us out you've destroyed our entire cities

00:22:02.500 are destroyed look what you've imported look at the level of violence that's now here when people

00:22:06.580 realize what they've done and they find the courage to speak which is coming now it's going to be a

00:22:11.640 tidal wave yeah and they're they're not ready right the police are just not ready for what's that

00:22:15.940 called a preference cascade like in the soviet union when enough people start speaking to each other

00:22:20.260 go oh you think this as well oh you do oh and then the whole thing's over yeah yeah because no one

00:22:24.360 dare to say it people like us said it because we're idiots but the normal people have been too

00:22:28.700 careful but now they're saying it but the the point is that the police are not ready for this

00:22:32.580 uh tiff lynch the head of the police federation uh says that the police are being pulled in every

00:22:36.800 direction they're being forced uh to choose between keeping peace at home or plugging national gaps

00:22:41.440 and the figures are at record lows uh instead of having they they had a peak of 67 000 police in

00:22:48.500 2023 58 000 in 2025 so they've lost 8 000 police officers that explains why so many

00:22:54.340 met met police were at epping because they're they're pulling resources all over so yeah and

00:23:01.400 the thing is they're totally demoralized anyway because they're sick of getting in the neck from

00:23:06.260 the press from the activists from the public themselves like the system itself is creaking

00:23:11.000 and can't sustain this level of what i would just call oppression and then you've got their last hope

00:23:16.900 which apparently fraser nelson went on times radio and just thinks it's farage we'll watch this to end

00:23:23.560 i'm going to defend nigel farage and reform here i mean just because some far rights and lunatics

00:23:30.900 have joined the protest that doesn't mean to say they're getting into bed with them

00:23:33.640 i think there are lots of people there who are really dismayed at what's happening with the

00:23:37.560 small boat situation with the migrant hotel situation and i think there is a risk of pulling

00:23:42.840 into the trap of saying oh these guys are all fascists look at this they're standing shoulder to

00:23:47.700 shoulder with the far right in doing that i think the risk is overlooking the legitimate

00:23:52.220 concerns of people who are just standing up for their community for their sense of fairness

00:23:58.380 and it is if you get stuck into the trap of attacking the far right who by the way absolutely

00:24:04.500 deserve to be attracted and then there is a risk of overlooking the legitimate grievance

00:24:09.380 now the only opportunities ever for extremists in britain come when governments fail to address

00:24:15.800 a legitimate problem and that's what's happening here the small boat situation is a daily scandal

00:24:21.700 the migrant hotel situation is an absolute outrage and i think the surprise not is not the protests

00:24:28.580 aren't happening now but they haven't been happening a long time previous to this we've seen this

00:24:33.300 um world over in sweden like something like um six or seven years ago they were burning down

00:24:39.060 migrant hotels we haven't seen that in this country but this is what um when you offend people's sense

00:24:44.020 of fairness when people are struggling to put food on the table and they walk past migrant hotels

00:24:48.740 where they're getting fed two hot meals a day given mobile phones etc of course you're going to be

00:24:53.540 very angry and you can't exactly say please don't be angry because i think there's a guy over there

00:24:58.580 who's a far right person coming in here but nigel farage is not the face of extremism in britain

00:25:04.020 he's not the face of racism he is a buffer between um us where we are now and the genuine extremists

00:25:10.340 and racists who are waiting to come into the wings and if it wasn't for nigel farage we would absolutely

00:25:15.220 have nick griffin figure larger than life way more stronger than he is here um so there we go they

00:25:22.740 they know that farage is basically the tail end of this paradigm which is that they want him to be

00:25:27.380 the tail end exactly they've built him up to be the tail exactly and they they're completely on side

00:25:31.700 with him being the tail end of it and if farage fails then that's it something new comes out yeah

00:25:37.300 so in other words containment yes yeah yeah but they've established they've let him in the

00:25:40.580 establishment face nelson did a whole documentary on him on channel four and about the worst he said

00:25:44.420 was well his policies are not that well sketched out but it's basically an endorsement even the fact

00:25:48.420 he's on channel four and if he's doing anything other than calling him hitler it's basically an

00:25:52.100 endorsement isn't it so yeah let me read you this i ain't going public with this yeah

00:25:55.780 gone yeah i think i'm public with this yeah so what we've realized to watch i've realized after

00:26:00.260 working with the police the met police they're supportive yeah they're at loggerheads now with

00:26:04.660 the government and the great london authority this is what the great london authority because they

00:26:08.740 we've been refused trafalgar square so parliament square was where the police wanted us yeah police

00:26:13.620 said this works best this is safest we can have screens here facing the whole square as far as you can

00:26:19.140 see and we had a backup road along the thames where we're going to put another 46 meter screen there

00:26:23.300 which can fit another 30 40 000 people that way the great london authority whilst we support peaceful

00:26:29.300 assembly it is necessary for all users of the square to fully come with relevant laws authorization i must

00:26:35.220 also draw to your attention that the glia is publicly authorized subject to the public sector

00:26:38.500 equality duty contained in section 1149 equalities act 2010 this means that when considering applications

00:26:44.260 for authorization the glia is required to have regard to any potential impacts of its decision on

00:26:50.340 people with protected characteristics within the meaning of the act including religion there is

00:26:54.980 also within the terms and conditions of provision that states the activity must not contain anything

00:26:59.300 which might reasonably cause offense so they're refusing us using parliament square in case we

00:27:05.700 cause an offense it's a free speech festival yeah the point of free speech is some people may get

00:27:11.540 offended but they've refused that but the police have now coming up we've got a meeting this week

00:27:17.380 as a backup of how we can still successfully do it but the police were at loggerheads themselves the

00:27:22.420 police are raging with this yeah it's the greater london authority in the government they're like the

00:27:26.820 government ain't letting and notice notice the angle of attack here because we've done many of these now

00:27:32.340 peacefully and and are they've they've been so good no trouble no trouble at all huge celebrations of

00:27:39.540 british valley traditional britain and we've had no problems whatsoever and they're not even

00:27:43.860 alleging that you're going to cause problems no they're just alleging someone might be offended yeah

00:27:47.060 someone might be offended someone might be offended which is why they are but but what that

00:27:50.980 now works because we did have free screens we're now up to six or seven screens we're going to lock

00:27:55.540 we're going to have a screen every 70 meters as far as you can see okay so let's let's uh end this

00:28:00.340 with uh a bit of a promo so 13th of september 13th of september is going to be the largest gathering

00:28:07.460 of patriots i think britain's ever seen it's going to be beautiful it's going to be a festival some of the

00:28:12.500 speakers we've got coming are people do you know when we started this a year ago and this is why

00:28:16.900 it was important i don't know if you saw last time there was an incident like the one on october 26th

00:28:21.220 where someone tried to get on stage who wasn't invited to speak yeah tried making a big deal out

00:28:25.140 of it every speaker had to be vetted because our end goal was to get the what some of the world's best

00:28:30.900 renowned academics and speakers speaking on the stage to take away from what they wish to label the

00:28:35.700 crowd as yeah we've now got jordan peterson we've got eva coming you know the dutch girl

00:28:40.420 i do yeah yeah you can say it i can't say it's embarrassing embarrassing myself but the list of

00:28:47.940 speakers we've got and people wanting to speak is amazing yeah videos we've got vox the spanish party

00:28:53.860 contacting that they're sending a video from there because they've got a festival themselves that

00:28:57.140 weekend we've got uh dominic schoeski lead politicians coming from poland the leader of

00:29:02.260 danish people's parties come in afd we had multiple politicians from the afd asking to speak to the crowds

00:29:08.260 the british public have done that they know that the vocal the focal point of europe and street level

00:29:15.060 resistance is in britain and that's it it's in britain we're setting the example to the rest of

00:29:19.620 them and i think you're going to push a half a million probably more coming to central london i

00:29:24.820 think it's going to be the biggest problem we've got is making sure they can all see in here which

00:29:28.180 we've now got meetings this week to add extra we've got a 46 meter screen 46 meter screen every 70 meters

00:29:34.740 we're going to have it and but to do that we've had to put in plans this week to put to build entire

00:29:39.300 things for massive speaker systems basically from from parliament square we're not allowed in

00:29:44.020 parliament square but we're going to have our first screen at the end of parliament square going all

00:29:47.700 the way up to trafalgar square so we've got so all the way up 70 meters 70 meters 70 meters 70 meters

00:29:52.500 that's the plan at the minute so it's going to be um it's going to be iconic it's going to be the

00:29:57.540 biggest festival and political rally the country scene yeah it's going to be beautiful i i can't

00:30:04.020 wait i can't wait and i know when i come out of jail i was trying to do too many things i thought we

00:30:07.620 just need to concentrate on september 13th we need to make sure it's right we need to make sure it's

00:30:12.180 safe it's planned right um yeah it's scary speaking in front of that many people though yeah it's going

00:30:18.660 to be good though isn't it yeah it's going to be good and it's good it's such a different uh group of

00:30:23.700 speakers as well jordan peterson's been totally supportive yeah he's totally supportive i hate to

00:30:29.140 do it but time we've got to carry on yeah cool but uh right so we got uh some some super chats here

00:30:33.460 actually so i'll go through this um uh oph uk take tommy and the boys out for a pint on me carl

00:30:39.060 thanks uh thanks a lot man um this show doesn't feel right it this episode is low seaters cleaning

00:30:44.420 the parrot sitting on my shoulder i'll explain it afterwards um why is it the man tried to help

00:30:49.220 england looks like my uncles and my grandfather uh well the thing is you'll notice all the people

00:30:52.980 aren't protesting look like your family members as well because this is just the normal people

00:30:56.740 of england now who have just had enough um you should have kept the beard tommy uh captain carl

00:31:01.620 sargon uh master brackpool and tommy roger saying the english channel patrolling the invasion

00:31:06.900 yeah but you are right the the government could saw this at any time they know they could

00:31:11.300 uh the government is just increasing the amount of powder in the keg and the coming explosion is

00:31:14.660 only getting bigger and bigger they're right to be afraid because they're culpable in everything

00:31:18.420 that's happened totally true it wouldn't be happening if it wasn't for them this wouldn't be

00:31:22.420 happening this isn't natural um when you tell the entire people you're evil you're evil you're evil

00:31:26.740 for a long time don't be surprised when they break out the helmets with the glowing red eyes

00:31:31.140 um no people are going to be people are going to be more reasonable than i think you think

00:31:35.060 but i think the time has just come for us to just say there's no more um great to see tommy on the

00:31:39.940 podcast and may i be so bold to suggest the next great campaign should be to draw attention to the

00:31:43.700 horrors happening in our prisons um i have something you've made us think about before i have

00:31:48.580 prisoners i have contact direct contact with prisoners now do you know there was a gang set

00:31:52.340 up to fight against islam islam within the prison system now i'm going to do a documentary on it

00:31:56.100 called the piranhas yeah there was a resistance that come out of franklin franklin prison and they

00:32:01.140 were stopping the islamic conversions all of those piranha prisoners now all of the men that stood up

00:32:06.580 many of them were from liverpool are stuck on solitary confinement in the basements of prisons

00:32:11.060 across this country they're not allowed into any prison system because there's a fatwa put on them

00:32:15.300 do you know when the investigation within the prison system found that muslim lawyers were

00:32:19.540 going from jail to jail to pass the messages get him get him get him all of them were getting hurt

00:32:24.100 so there's one now in belmarsh has been sat down sat down segregation on solitary confinement for two

00:32:28.340 years and he's done nothing wrong he cannot have a prison sentence you know like with me they said we

00:32:32.900 can't put you up there you're going to get killed even if you want to go up there you can't well

00:32:37.140 there's a whole massive group of british men who are stuck in the basements of jails and they're

00:32:42.340 losing their minds yeah two years three years solitary confinement and all because they tried

00:32:46.980 to resist the islamic takeover of the prison system so yeah i'm going to i am going to follow

00:32:51.700 up on that with interviews with um we've got covert we've got recordings coming out of prisons as well

00:32:55.620 so yeah i am gonna i just need to do one thing at a time yeah um the real truth is that we needed

00:33:00.420 things to get bad or worse for people to wake up the only problem is that we may be past the point of

00:33:05.060 no return or the media requirements too brutal no we're not past the point of no return no return

00:33:09.380 it's never too late no black pills yeah no black we're gonna win everything's going our way so

00:33:16.260 just keep the faith let's go on to the next one cool uh it's quite a meaty segment uh this one so i

00:33:22.340 might uh skim through some of it oh thank you very much

00:33:28.820 right so as of today the online safety bill is live and active which is quite uh well it's quite

00:33:38.740 concerning really obviously i know you guys have done a lot of segments on the online safety act

00:33:43.220 and uh i think a lot of other people have been really hammering the drum you want to give us a

00:33:46.900 summary though just to catch everyone up yeah it basically the online safety bill uh is a new piece

00:33:52.260 of legislation that came out in 2023 uh that essentially gives ofcom a bit more power um and regulatory

00:33:59.380 power to take down uh any sorry uh add either fines and to take down potentially any platforms

00:34:08.420 online that could be spreading uh well it's it's framed as harmful towards children uh but there are

00:34:17.460 there are stuff within the bill that's sort of crowbarred in that we want to cover today but

00:34:23.860 essentially you could be fined up to 10 percent of the revenue if you own a platform or i believe

00:34:29.380 it's 18 000 pounds or euros i believe sorry 18 000 18 million uh euros so i thought in this segment

00:34:38.740 we could go through what are the mainstream media saying um just to see their sort of take and then i

00:34:44.020 actually ran the bill through ai and done a prompt and asked for some under-reported um parts about the

00:34:53.220 bill that i wanted to share essentially so we'll start with the guardian of course uh so it says

00:34:59.540 everything you need to know about the new internet safety bill um it says uh from mandatory age

00:35:05.140 verification to criminal liability for non-compliant executives the legislation marks a new era

00:35:10.980 of digital accountability in keeping children safe online from tomorrow so today social media

00:35:17.620 companies must introduce child safety measures under the online safety act is a key moment for

00:35:23.140 a british government attempting like so many others to rein in tech firms and prevent children

00:35:29.460 encountering quote harmful content on the internet quite broad i just want to say i actually really

00:35:36.260 agree with the theme behind it i don't think children should be on the internet basically um i don't let

00:35:42.020 my kids just yeah well that's the problem everyone agrees with that and then that's how they suck you

00:35:45.380 into shutting down to agree with it and then they decide what's harmful tommy robertson's

00:35:49.460 harmful yeah exactly it's harmful exactly um it says passed by parliament in 23 the landmark

00:35:55.700 legislation significantly empowers the regulator of com uh peter kyle the science and technology

00:36:01.300 secretary described the new codes as a watershed moment that turned the tide on quote toxic experiences

00:36:08.740 on these platforms very broad very very broad and he's just been on news night a lot of people

00:36:13.700 pointing out he just wore a t-shirt on news night he's an mp but then bbc were asking him and could you

00:36:18.020 shut down x they could barely contain themselves like can you could you shut it down and he sort

00:36:21.780 of didn't get to that 100 that's all right um another that's the target yeah exactly another

00:36:27.780 hope you want musk is paying attention because he is genuinely he's next yeah he's definitely next

00:36:32.100 it says another substantial change is the requirement for pornography websites to verify that users are

00:36:37.380 age 18 or older using methods such as photo id matching facial age estimation credit and debit card

00:36:45.140 checks mobile operator verification and open banking and digital id wallets so yeah it's um

00:36:55.220 not really against making sure that the people are accessing porn sites are 18 or more that's fine

00:36:59.460 exactly that's not the issue and the thing is they could easily have just said yeah so that's what

00:37:02.980 we're going to do for porn sites so if you're not a porn site it's not a problem who cares right

00:37:06.420 and that would be what you are actually that would be what you actually would do if you wanted to

00:37:09.780 protect children you wouldn't have all of this extraneous stuff in it exactly it's a bit like it reminds me

00:37:14.820 of you know obviously the trouble with illegal immigration how the government wants to tackle

00:37:19.460 it and then introducing the blairite you know digital id it's it's just using something to you

00:37:26.340 know enact something else like a trojan horse uh technology platforms this is yahoo news

00:37:32.820 tech platforms operating in the uk now have a legal duty to protect young people from some of the most

00:37:38.500 dangerous forms of online content this includes pornography content that encourages promotes or provides

00:37:44.180 instructions for violence promotion of self-harm and eating disorders those failing to comply uh

00:37:50.500 face hefty fines until now parents have had the un um sorry i never sorry i can't even say that uh

00:37:57.300 the role of navigating web content filters and app activity management to guard their children from

00:38:02.660 harmful content and as of the 25th of july 2025 the safety act um uh puts greater responsibility on

00:38:10.580 platforms and content creators themselves now going through this i want to i want to just skip ahead

00:38:16.660 just a bit you mentioned about bbc news night so immediately the question was about x so could britain

00:38:23.060 shut down x britain has the power now to shut down any platform it says science and tech secretary peter

00:38:30.340 kyle just wearing a t-shirt yeah that's what people were commenting on he looks like he's selling a new

00:38:34.580 workout program yeah new iphone out or something is that testosterone replacement it says me sat in a

00:38:41.140 t-shirt yeah but you're not you're not an mp you're not an mp for stuff yeah you're not an mp on on news

00:38:46.820 so i would just do a bit of this is that one of the challenges that parents face is that parents

00:38:52.420 didn't grow up in an age where there were smartphones and apps and social media i didn't you didn't

00:38:58.820 so that means you didn't have the inherited experience of being parented in that world so

00:39:04.100 you don't grow up with the innate knowledge and the vocabulary and the relationship issues that come

00:39:08.260 with trying to set boundaries and having boundaries set for you as children uh it for us it was all in

00:39:13.220 the offline world uh so if you were 18 or 19 now you were born the year that the iphone was released

00:39:19.460 so you've only known a life of smartphones but their parents have only known a life without them

00:39:25.940 so we at big west they were children themselves so we have to have this this big issue now i owe a

00:39:32.260 huge apology on behalf of society and every government that's gone before for every child

00:39:37.540 who's over the age of 13 now because they have been exposed to hateful violent misogynistic and

00:39:44.740 pornographic material not because the children go looking for it but become it because it finds them

00:39:51.140 the algorithm how bad yeah the algorithm of these prof for profit shoves harmful

00:39:57.940 content and porn in jeans as well it's now said that eight percent of eight to 14 year olds have

00:40:03.940 visited a porn site in the last month you're angry about it i am i'm staggered about it every parent is

00:40:10.500 angry about it but we've allowed this to go on since the invention anyways so wouldn't the solution to be

00:40:17.140 ban children from having iphones then like i don't think they should have access to any algorithm or

00:40:22.180 any or social media yeah social media at all you missed the best bit the bbc guy says let's go and

00:40:27.620 watch some porn together did you sorry and i can find you some porn he said the bb guy says

00:40:33.700 classic bbc presenter but uh but the framing the framing is all around um of course uh children as

00:40:46.420 well and it's all about it's they're heavily focused on on pornography when there are actually other

00:40:51.940 things in the bill that has been harmful content very vague uh you said misogyny yeah exactly that

00:40:59.060 mean there was one particular social media site i don't use this site personally um but it talks

00:41:04.820 about how a particular cycle gab was taken down because of this now unfortunately the post isn't

00:41:10.580 available um but the online safety act had already gone back a few months ago and said well when the

00:41:17.380 online safety act comes through that this particular platform was threatened fines of 18 million euros and

00:41:24.900 or 10 percent of its annual revenue so they pulled out they said we're not paying a penny we're not

00:41:29.860 going to do it uh and they decided to to pull out completely uh from it so apparently a lot of small

00:41:35.780 businesses a lot of social media like small social media websites uh have already pulled out from the

00:41:41.620 uk because of this piece of legislation you already did didn't they if you go on you just get a statement

00:41:46.580 saying we can't exist in the communist united kingdom basically yeah just to be clear as well i know

00:41:50.820 i know andrew torba uh not well but like you know he he basically has been on a similar journey to like

00:41:55.220 all of us well because we've been doing this for a long time now and torba was one of those uh so he

00:41:59.540 created gab and he he's an american he's like look it's a free speech platform you know i'm not going

00:42:03.220 to command what people control on it uh but as society got more left-wing he became more right-wing

00:42:08.100 in the same way i have frankly um not quite as right-wing as andrew but um but the point is he's he's

00:42:14.500 just drawn a hard line saying no i'm an american these are the american rights this is the this is the law that i

00:42:19.460 follow i'm not i'm just not going to do what foreign countries tell me to do which i entirely

00:42:23.860 respect to be honest but you can see how the what what same with bitshoot as well it began as okay

00:42:30.820 what we'll do is we'll set up our own free speech platforms and create a parallel economy

00:42:34.420 the governments have just legislated out of existence for us now but what's trump's government

00:42:38.420 saying on this well well we don't know he hasn't um hasn't said anything at the minute um but if we

00:42:44.500 tried to shut down x for example that would be a humiliation when starmer goes to where the

00:42:49.220 free speech capital whatever it might be why trump's in but in four years time if trump wasn't

00:42:53.780 in right right right right if it's a they'd adopt yeah similar this is why i don't think they'll

00:42:59.460 actually take any action against the next four years in the next four years yeah away because

00:43:03.780 trump you know he might have his disagreements with elon but he's a nationalist and he'll be like

00:43:07.540 you're not going coming after our company wait four years yeah yeah well i wanted to read out some

00:43:12.740 other stuff uh because i've obviously filtered the entire bill through ai and it's it's brilliant to do

00:43:17.620 that because it gets rid of all the legal jargon and it really does help home in on some of the

00:43:22.180 stuff and i wanted to read out some stuff that i found um so here's a few things that it picked up

00:43:29.380 on when i asked it to investigate and how it might affect things like platform policies content creators

00:43:36.260 user privacy innovation and obviously commentary uh things like that uh it talks about uh threatening

00:43:43.460 harassing or harassing or harassing messages and encouraging self-harm it says criminalized threats

00:43:47.860 of uh death serious harm and encouraging serious self-harm applied to digital communication uh the first

00:43:54.260 prosecution under self-harm encouragement occurred in july 2025 via telegram um you had uh democratically

00:44:01.860 important and journalistic content exemptions it said platforms must prefer um sorry preserve access to

00:44:09.300 user comments or content tied to political discourse or journalism they cannot remove

00:44:14.980 such content without scrutiny or risk creating bias via moderation policies this clause primarily targets

00:44:22.260 large platforms category one services and must be reflected in their terms of service and moderation

00:44:28.820 code so it like i said primarily targets category one so when you're looking at others smaller

00:44:35.300 independent journalism or you know the smaller fish it's easier for them to have the power to shut them

00:44:43.220 down in that respect uh encrypted messaging through through it's a sorry though the government will not

00:44:50.260 enforce breaking encryption immediately the act empowers of com to require providers to use accredited

00:44:57.380 technology or client-side scanning or breaking um end-to-end encryption to detect cse

00:45:04.580 um material and once it's technically feasible it says critics warn this introduces uh systemic

00:45:12.180 surveillance risks under and undermines trust in services like signal or whatsapp and could spur

00:45:18.980 companies to block uk users altogether and on the consequences for platforms and content creators

00:45:26.340 it said it must embed safety by design annual risk assessments algorithmic accountability

00:45:33.540 filtering controls and age assurance systems including possibly intrusive biometrics or behavior

00:45:40.980 based interference tools i think sansum uh was taught was saying that he had to am i right in

00:45:47.060 saying you had to scan your face to get onto a discord platform like i've seen a lot of people saying

00:45:53.220 that yeah to get onto their discord they had to scan their faces already just to get on like a

00:45:57.940 a thread board which is pretty insane but this is what i wanted to focus on as well

00:46:05.460 in particular um the secretary of state's power over ofcom it says section 44 grants the secretary of

00:46:14.500 state authority to direct or modify of com's draft codes of practice for reasons including national

00:46:21.380 security public policy or public safety of com must comply even if changes are withheld or redacted before

00:46:29.940 laid before parliament this enables potential politicization of content regulation and erodes of com's

00:46:38.420 policy making independence it says under section 44 when of com submits a draft code of practice

00:46:46.660 uh the secretary of state may direct of com to modify it if deemed necessary for reasons such as

00:46:54.420 yeah national security public safety public health international relations and compliance with

00:47:00.580 international obligations so basically in sum when the government said you know we've had enough of

00:47:06.820 tommy robinson essentially she she can so you've got the bullshit and then she can just do what she

00:47:14.100 wants yeah a secretary of state so it says off about cooper yeah it says we're in trouble yeah it says

00:47:20.420 ofcom is meant to function as an independent regulator but section 44 gives ministers formal formal

00:47:26.740 veto-like control over the final code content even the public health comment that's yes again yeah

00:47:33.540 we can shut you up and we'll shut you down so she can step in if there was a mass movement coming

00:47:37.380 out against new vaccines or new or new lockdowns or anything she say that's harmful public health

00:47:42.020 shut up you lot so off com having this kind of control is bad enough because they're awful yeah

00:47:46.180 and then if that's not bad enough you get you get behind them and they're politicized already oh yeah

00:47:50.980 everyone calls them the off communists for a reason yeah i mean even just yesterday farage has a

00:47:54.980 revolutionary communist on his show and it's a cliche at this point but you wouldn't have the the fascist

00:47:58.980 party for balance right so it shows the inherent you know it's inherently political bias but they

00:48:03.860 never go off to like jeremy vine or whoever just saying their lies with their left wingers they never

00:48:07.700 have a right one no so in short according to ai when investigating it as well it says a government

00:48:15.220 in office might use section 44 to steer codes around issues like misinformation foreign influence or

00:48:21.780 political speech aligning safety codes with political interests rather than regulatory logic

00:48:29.140 and it says safety by design versus party line by design uh off com's technical expertise may be

00:48:35.140 superseded by policy shortcuts for example enforcing stricter measures on some harms or weakening others

00:48:42.500 based on public relations or diplomatic consideration so it basically gives them just carte blanche to

00:48:47.940 do it as they feel like it should be done the rules are actually not really the rules the rules are

00:48:52.660 essentially guidelines and they can be overridden whenever they want brilliant which is yeah communist

00:48:58.180 government and yeah and many people for the past few years have been really shouting about this

00:49:04.820 particular bill saying it's it's not it's not what it seems to be it's painted up as this you know

00:49:10.180 child protection thing when most of the stuff is illegal anyway uh and it's it's it's a way to just crowbar in

00:49:17.540 things like that more power to the state more power to shut down speech more power to have control

00:49:22.980 over platforms social media because social media now like x is extremely powerful i mean what did

00:49:29.780 your silence documentary manage to get views seven million pretty good it's pretty good it's how did

00:49:35.860 that work justice nicklin um yeah so but you you mentioned something to add as well that uh they talk

00:49:43.300 about protecting kids a lot don't they yes um this is a thread um by anna or um i can't quite say it

00:49:51.860 agliacci pagliacci the hated she's very good uh very good she's done a whole uh thread on judges that

00:49:59.380 she's identified uh yeah and this is a real problem with british judges for some reason i have no idea why

00:50:06.580 why we're like this because they're all paedophiles uh well you know we can only make assumptions but we

00:50:12.260 don't we don't have any proof of anything that of that no just fyi i have to say that yep i mean

00:50:19.140 what what what what reason would there be i mean if we scroll through the the the list it's just crazy

00:50:24.260 how it's just constant like judge after judge who's this lady here uh what the one reporting

00:50:29.300 the one doing this reporting uh she's uh well she's a citizen journalist yes okay well pagliacci

00:50:34.260 uh my name's actually anna but um but she's she's very very hot on all of this stuff and and

00:50:38.660 honestly her twitter few months refusing to move out of the way of police officers

00:50:43.780 you know pedophiles who collected baby rape videos walk with no jail time unbelievable just unbelievable

00:50:48.900 good character oh well yeah good can you even imagine can you imagine they got you know just more so i

00:50:56.340 think because you you brought this up you said you said about you know this particular thread that ties

00:51:01.060 in with with safety of children and you know but then this is completely overlooked judges just

00:51:07.380 letting pedos off all the time they're just naive idiots like that girl we saw they even look the

00:51:12.020 same they got the same hair you know that girl earlier with the perm that leftist girl that got

00:51:15.780 shouted at they're all just naive i have no idea i i just i i'm talking about when it says he showed

00:51:21.220 remorse things like this you know it's hard to it's hard to understand what the possible rationale could be

00:51:25.620 if not that they were just in favor of what these men did i'm saying well they're men of good

00:51:29.780 characters a thousand child rape images and told him not to do it could be you naughty boy and he

00:51:34.180 gave 20 it's the insanity of liberalism where it hits the point whether you sympathize with the

00:51:38.740 criminal above everyone else yeah we get sorry yeah you are right i was just gonna say a narco

00:51:44.260 tyranny because i say every episode but that's what you end up with and the thing is just like if

00:51:48.020 you want more just go look at pagliacci's twitter feed it is brutal and honestly i've yet to see

00:51:52.900 something she's wrong about frankly uh and uh her feeds a whole house of horrors and but this is

00:51:58.100 exactly the point this is not you know if we wanted to protect children surely these guys would be in

00:52:02.340 jail yeah not the person who shouted at the police dog yeah yeah yeah believe it or not shouting the

00:52:06.900 police dog and being racist i'm quite as bad as downloading 7 000 child rape images i don't know

00:52:12.980 why i have to say that but anyway should we uh let's let's carry on that's it time um got some more

00:52:18.340 soup chats come in so i'll read through a couple of them quickly um

00:52:25.460 uh scott says i bet the eating disorders will not include fat acceptance and the uk is a small part

00:52:30.500 of what most platforms user base they'll just switch off well that's the thing as well is there's a kind

00:52:34.660 of arrogance in the british government so we'll shut down your platform it's like no they'll just

00:52:38.500 de-platform the country and britain okay it's 70 million people or whatever but they're just like

00:52:43.540 no it's not not worth the hassle and so the rest of the world gets to access these platforms and we don't

00:52:48.180 because of our tyrannical government it's insufferable uh even says uh sorry ever says

00:52:54.020 doing in australia under the guise of kids you need idt's and internet eventually push social social

00:52:58.420 credit score hold you to account for posts and memes and stop access to news etc and not coming

00:53:03.060 from them yeah and that's we're going to see more of this but anyway let's let's carry on all right

00:53:08.180 well we probably don't have much time but this is mainly this is many jokes anyway so we'll just spin

00:53:12.260 through this so it's a will corbyn destroy labor i've optimistically called it and corbyn's launched this

00:53:17.140 new party as you probably know and there we are politics show jeremy corbyn and zara sultana have

00:53:21.780 made a joint statement on the foundation of their new political party named your party brilliant great

00:53:25.940 name guys except it's not called your pie so zara sultana's like what are you doing politics joe

00:53:32.340 it's not called your party yes the website's called your party but how could you think that was the name

00:53:36.180 you fools and so why is the name not the the website i know it's it's so dumb but what's it

00:53:41.700 called great question tommy and you know who else asks politics joe what is it all lowercase no

00:53:48.100 question mark they're just like what they don't even know and so no one no response to this yeah

00:53:52.740 because no one knows national socialist they haven't oh yes your party but with the apostle that's

00:53:59.780 hilarious so no one knows you just like remember when he launched uh she launched actually and corbyn was

00:54:05.140 said to be furious and bewildered yeah just lost with this shopping bag and as they go why is she

00:54:09.300 launched like it she wasn't supposed to launch then they launch it with the wrong name or no one knows

00:54:14.580 him apparently yeah i know and even politics joe's going guys what are you doing and as christian

00:54:19.220 nimitz points out such a ridiculous medium politics show they have one job which is north

00:54:23.300 korea style corbo idolatry and they can't even get that right you had one job um politics

00:54:30.100 jezz are a just dumbed down version of navara media that's so true yeah what's the dude's name

00:54:33.780 from the navara media aaron bastani he comes across all right yeah yeah he does i'm sure i

00:54:40.420 call him i'm watching if he can hold on a minute he's all right he's a he's a patriot i called him

00:54:44.500 the thinking man's thomas skinner the other day he actually laughed at that yeah i think is it all

00:54:48.420 a trick and then he hits you with the communism i i think i think uh because he's a dad

00:54:52.420 dad he's realizing he's shifting i think he's coming to the far right to be honest yes he's

00:54:57.940 coming um not that we're that but yeah anyway and then i just finding some funny tweets really

00:55:03.780 gareth roberts it's your party and i'll cry if i want to

00:55:08.340 some boomer jokes yeah yeah yeah i know it made me laugh the zoomers might not get it um

00:55:13.140 dankler has an idea for the name jeremy corbyn has started a new hard left party currently called your

00:55:18.100 party where anyone can sign up and vote for anything including the party name wouldn't it be awful if

00:55:21.940 everyone signed up and voted to call it gooners for mustache man we'll go with that would be

00:55:25.860 terrible and i hope no one goes to your party.uk and does that thing is i love the idea of look

00:55:30.500 we're just gonna float the party name out to the public it's like bro i know it's so communist isn't

00:55:35.860 it but it's so badly organized communism lenin is spinning in his grave going like these guys are

00:55:40.900 a joke you know i mean this isn't a vanguard stalin would have none of this anyway let's carry on

00:55:45.700 so grok has some suggestions based on sultana and corbyn's emphasis on democratic socialism

00:55:49.940 inclusivity anti-austerity equality and collective action here are 10 suggested names collective uk

00:55:54.820 people's democracy party these are quite boring solidarity socialist alliance equality now movement

00:56:00.100 workers unity front inclusive left coalition that's possible actually the anti-barbarism

00:56:05.860 comes from the rose luxembourg quote socialism or barbarism oh i'm kind of pro-barbarism uh democratic

00:56:11.620 socialist union peace and justice party your socialist future the last one it's just the whole country

00:56:16.980 isn't it your socialist future and our socialist present actually but then someone asked for

00:56:21.220 sarcastic names from grok and it coming up with some sarcastic names poking fun at tropes like endless

00:56:26.340 cues failed utopias and virtue signaling and we've got q for equality league people's poverty

00:56:30.980 paradise corbyn's cult of collectivism sultana's subsidy sinkhole barbarism nah bankruptcy inclusive

00:56:38.900 rationing revolution democratic deficit party workers waiting wonderland peace love and penury your

00:56:45.940 taxes are dreams i like the last one that could be the slogan more than the actual party name your

00:56:50.980 taxes are that is a good slogan yeah corbyn um adnan has same independent mp for is it blackburn and

00:56:58.820 gaza i can't remember so uh this isn't the party name but even with so zia yusuf and sorry to put him

00:57:03.860 in your timeline but he's saying from a branded perspective this is one of the worst names ever

00:57:07.460 adnan this isn't the party name but even with this branding you should be worried that people now have a

00:57:11.380 real alternative oh yeah they're going after reform voters aren't they yeah to be fair reform we're

00:57:15.460 going after their vote yeah i know yeah to be fair we are worried probably but for different reasons

00:57:20.900 um and pipa quera from the guardian points out jeremy corbyn officially confirms new party with

00:57:25.780 zara sultana pollsters predict a well-organized left-wing party could take 10 off labor's vote

00:57:30.260 so if they just get the organization they could be a real threat but to labor yes to labor that's

00:57:35.700 hence the title of my thing but jeremy corbyn's going to make sure there's never a labor government

00:57:39.300 ever again thank you comrade corbyn he really hates keir starmer doesn't he he really he's like

00:57:44.180 i'll destroy the country to get this guy back but um of course it's not really taking 10 off

00:57:49.300 labor so that's a bit misleading and actually the telegraph uh gives us a slightly different

00:57:53.700 take which it will take votes but not strictly from labor so it's going to swallow up the muslim

00:57:58.500 vote isn't it yeah and it's going to take some of the green but i'm just going to find a nice graph

00:58:01.940 for you here i know we love is that going to allow labor to actually now talk about some of the

00:58:05.540 the muslim issues well maybe maybe it's literally going to become jezbollah isn't it this is which

00:58:10.260 is where my little graph is not there that's strange oh it's gone okay well there's a i'm

00:58:14.340 going to have to describe a graph now which is really good interesting few years um where did

00:58:18.180 it go so there's a graph anyway that says it shows actually they're going to take about three percent

00:58:22.820 from labor and about four percent from the greens uh they've chosen to just make it disappear so it's

00:58:28.100 not all going to it shows what would happen if corbyn got ten percent but actually a lot of it comes

00:58:32.420 from the greens one percent came from the smp four percent came from greens three percent from labor

00:58:36.900 reform and tories in this projection were exactly the same so it just takes from the left basically

00:58:41.060 and the greens were actually worried about it because adrian ramsey co-leader says so jeremy

00:58:46.180 corbyn and zara sultana are indeed starting a new party this blows zach polanski's leadership

00:58:50.020 pitch out of the water it's crucial now more than ever that we maintain a distinct green party

00:58:53.780 identity as ellie and me are arguing let's not become the support act so it's like you're the green

00:58:57.780 party bro calm down i know bring back the whales and dolphins stuff i was saying before people

00:59:02.580 will vote for that we love that but then it became all communism and uh open border and islam yeah

00:59:07.700 yeah yeah yeah yeah when we grew up it was dolphins caught in the nets and we're like yeah fair it is

00:59:13.060 you know greenpeace could change very quickly anyway hopefully this graph will work zee use of again

00:59:18.100 sorry to put him in your timeline it's uh it's not the it's not called your party takes a chunk out of

00:59:22.900 labor support it opens a big gap between reform and the rest this has reform on 31 percent labor

00:59:28.500 and conservative 19 jcp which is a decent name for it um jeremy clubbing party yeah uh the jezza party

00:59:36.580 ain't no party like a jez corpse party that's another idea l l liberal democrats 11 green five percent

00:59:42.020 so again yeah it was just helping reform i mean that is it a reform person this is great though

00:59:47.860 because honestly um fracturing on the left is good for the right do you not think there needs to be

00:59:52.580 something to counter reform because the nigel farge currently just laughs the country anyone who

00:59:56.900 wants to go for the anti-immigration anyone who's upset there's no one else to vote for but farge

01:00:01.380 and he knows it so he doesn't have to push on the islam issue he doesn't have to address any of the

01:00:05.140 problems that everyone wants addressing because no one's got another option well you've got that's

01:00:08.580 exactly right that's why ben started at ranch uk for that reason and then obviously rupert started

01:00:12.820 restore as a movement to put pressure on but i know what you mean i i think there has to be

01:00:17.220 something i know and i know people are going to say you're dividing the right people say oh look you're

01:00:20.660 taking it away from reform yeah but there needs to be something because nigel farge ain't gonna

01:00:24.100 address any of the issues he's made it pretty clear and the establishment view him as containment

01:00:28.180 for the current product it's pretty clear they're happy for him to get in yeah he ain't coming under

01:00:32.500 attack he actually gets platformed by the media big he gets a big cushion from he gets he gets

01:00:37.220 fraser nelson of the bloody spectator or whatever where he's spectator he's times now he's

01:00:42.180 spectator yeah like doing puff pieces being like nigel farge is our last hope yeah that's it yeah

01:00:46.660 yeah he's not a threat to the system you need another party you need you need let's call it

01:00:50.740 our party just to mess with them just to just be clear that this is exactly what jeremy corbyn

01:00:56.580 has been saying to create his party this is literally word for word he needs to do it to

01:01:00.180 push labour yeah i think ben habib is far better well yeah but we'll get you know the habib

01:01:06.100 low sort of axis uh coming up soon i think do you think low ends up i i think low tries to become

01:01:12.160 tory leader i don't know i've i've spoken to him i called that yeah i said it a while ago i know

01:01:17.440 i said he's never been hardly he's not not been properly committed about joining the tories he

01:01:23.360 actually kind of thinks they're kind of useless i wonder if he just builds his movement big enough

01:01:26.640 that he comes with such a power vacuum that the tories need him and if the tories want to count

01:01:30.080 reform join with rupert lowe that's what i can only see as i'm looking at all and then more tories

01:01:35.440 are finding courage now you hear a lot of tory conservatives now speaking up and i'm thinking

01:01:38.320 finally some conservatives but the thing is the tories are just collapsing yeah yeah i say that

01:01:43.120 carl's doing that piece about kemi baden like in new statesman they've got no funding their

01:01:46.640 leeds headquarters are shut down their cchq which is meant to be this monolith it's two people on

01:01:51.120 comms it's just two blokes and an old coffee machine and a dog it's nothing the local branches

01:01:55.840 are just disintegrating obviously reform's small but the tories have to like manage so much they

01:02:00.320 just haven't got the cash because no one's funding them anymore yeah no as i understand it all

01:02:04.080 right but what does the party actually believe guys i know you're keen to find out uh that might be

01:02:08.560 i don't know if we can click on that to make it bigger or if i just read it out for you but um

01:02:11.840 it's uh let's have a look no i'll just read it oh hang on so here we go the system is rigged the

01:02:17.840 system is rigged when 4.5 million children live in poverty this is jeremy corbyn himself by the way in

01:02:22.720 the sixth richest country in the world the system is rigged when giant corporations make a fortune from

01:02:26.080 rising bills the system is rigged when the government says there's no money for the poor but billions for

01:02:30.000 war he likes things that rhyme we cannot accept these injustices and neither should you we will only fix the

01:02:34.640 crises in our society with a mass here it comes redistribution of wealth and power i didn't see

01:02:39.440 that one coming that means taxing the very richest in our society oh it's communism guys just in case

01:02:44.720 you're wondering yeah exactly exactly i love it it's just like yeah yeah yeah but maybe they close

01:02:51.520 the borders so you can't leave yeah yeah surprise surprise it's communist it's communism it was me

01:02:56.000 all along yeah i would have gone away with it um we will only fix the crisis oh yeah i've read that

01:03:00.240 blah blah blah that means yeah that means an nhs free from privatization and bringing energy

01:03:04.720 water rail and mail into public ownership obs i do agree and property which they've not put in there

01:03:09.440 yeah but then it's brackets yeah and property which that girl said on forage last night um that means

01:03:14.800 investing in a massive council house building program and here we go that means standing up to fossil

01:03:18.800 fuel giants putting their profits before our planet one sentence for the green lock because he's got

01:03:22.320 to i don't think his heart's really in that stuff meanwhile millions of people are horrified by the

01:03:26.160 government's complicity and crimes against humanity this is your inevitable palestine bit i don't really

01:03:30.400 need to go through all of course it's uh going to be palestine wherever you stand on that you knew

01:03:34.160 jaz was going to go with that and he's got another page our movement is made up of people of all

01:03:38.720 faiths and none the great dividers want you to think that the problems in our society are caused by

01:03:42.960 migrants or refugees they're not yeah that's so yeah you're building council houses for jazz yeah

01:03:48.960 yeah you know you know they're doing for you know in social housing so in the area where my

01:03:52.880 mom lives they're building the new housing estates now it used to be 30 went to social

01:03:57.040 housing it's now 45 and the social housing it's all filled with migrants exactly and they're

01:04:01.440 literally replacing entire areas where they're where there weren't any migrants and everyone's moved

01:04:05.840 to get away from the migrants they're now filling 45 houses with migrants right and they're

01:04:09.600 constantly like you know we've got like you know nice obviously swindon being a town in wiltshire

01:04:13.600 got lovely you know just countryside outside new build new build new build what are they getting

01:04:18.560 filled with they're put in a place called browton so my mate moved from luton to get up there

01:04:22.640 put his kids in the school the first language all the kids speak is french they're all black french

01:04:26.240 really the first language he said his kid can't speak to any kids how do they arrive here why

01:04:30.000 they in france he's had to take them out of the school they sold the last 180 houses went to a

01:04:34.640 nigerian businessman that nigerian businessman just filled them all with free on the

01:04:38.400 three-story houses there's free families in them it's happening in ireland as well

01:04:42.480 so when he says that you know they say they say our problems caused by migrants or refugees they're

01:04:46.480 not my response is they are though it's the question is of our right so jeremy corbyn and his gaza

01:04:55.040 islamists their problems aren't caused by migrants yeah yeah all right our problems the british people

01:05:00.960 our problems are caused by the different problems yeah mo migrants mo problems i just came up with that

01:05:05.440 they're caused by an economic system that protects the interests of corporations and billionaires

01:05:09.920 there it is it is ordinary people who create the wealth kind of and it's ordinary people who have

01:05:13.440 the power to put it back where it belongs yeah i mean ordinary people do a lot but you still need

01:05:16.640 entrepreneurs and business leaders it's time for a new kind of political party one that is rooted in

01:05:21.520 our communities trade unions and social movements that kind of sounds like a really old political

01:05:25.680 party yeah it sounds like from about 100 years ago yeah one that builds power in all regions and

01:05:29.920 nations one that belongs to you and then the website which is your party confusing what yeah but what i love

01:05:34.560 about this he doesn't even say that we're going to choose the name or something so why wouldn't

01:05:37.920 they think it's called your party i know exactly yeah yeah clown i know clown clown world but here's

01:05:44.480 a more um succinct version of the manifesto from burnside a free owl for every anti-semite a marrow in

01:05:50.640 every allotment a palestinian in every loft a burka on every woman a crayon for every bergen so there you

01:05:56.240 go and if you didn't get that last reference this is someone's uh put together what a

01:06:01.120 a book crayon for bergen looks like and he's just uh gary's economics that's grotesque i'm sorry

01:06:08.080 for putting that in your face that's disgusting thank you and um obviously i'm voting for them

01:06:12.320 i replied to zara and said i for one i'm excited to try communism just one more time why not let's

01:06:17.760 give it a lot of crack lads and uh academic agents vote for them corbyn over farage razine wants farage

01:06:22.880 tries to destroy corbyn you know neem is going to come in with the 5d chess thing is not wrong though

01:06:28.400 for us there is also not wrong you're right about the regime's intent corbyn however would hand the

01:06:32.880 country over to islamic communism can i offer a countering opinion that i don't necessarily

01:06:38.640 subscribe to but do you think that we're overestimating how much that this particular

01:06:44.000 party could galvanize the younger votes overestimating as in do we think it will get a lot a lot i don't

01:06:51.280 think it's gonna get any no i don't think it will no i think it might you know look how many members

01:06:55.760 they got under corbyn 180 000 yeah the first 24 but that's not paid that's just these are just

01:07:02.560 people signing up to an email list yeah yeah corbyn yeah yeah yeah it's not like restore or

01:07:08.160 something where they're getting yeah it could i mean look in a time when things are going very badly

01:07:12.000 free money is always appealing free stuff we hate the rich free wi-fi and the guy gary stevenson's

01:07:17.680 always going on about it it has a certain amount because that actually galvanizes a lot younger

01:07:22.240 yeah the thing is that there's there's always the the problem that corbyn has is that the country is

01:07:26.880 very familiar with him he has a large fan base but as the uh the the um thing pointed out where's the

01:07:32.800 where's the graph here right he's got a large fan base there's about 12 of the population right so

01:07:37.760 that's you know about one in eight one in nine people okay that's a lot if you're like trying to

01:07:43.760 start a business or trying to like you know run a company or something that's a that's a large number

01:07:47.600 of people who are going to join in your email list uh but you're never going to win an election on

01:07:52.480 that no all you're going to do is destroy the left yes in britain which is fantastic actually it's

01:07:58.000 exactly that's actually brilliant because like we're in a first past the post system i mean this

01:08:02.240 this is literally what nigel farage did to the tories correct he cut their legs out from under them by

01:08:06.400 taking about a third of their votes so it kind of evens a playing field for the election exactly so

01:08:10.160 actually corbyn is doing the right a massive favor here because he's not like the labor and the tories are

01:08:15.120 probably going to stay like this for a long time at like 20 19 20 yeah you know so farage is the

01:08:21.040 outside right winger and anyone else who moves in to fill that gap when farage leaves it well

01:08:24.880 there's there's a real opportunity there yeah you know it's not impossible though that people would

01:08:27.920 vote reform that doesn't work out so they go to corbyn because i've spoken to people on the street

01:08:32.000 who say they were considering voting for for corbyn or reform it does exist out there i don't know

01:08:37.040 maybe maybe there is a percentage but like remember that when when corbyn was in charge of the

01:08:41.520 labor party he lost trees may because people on the doorstep were like we just hate corbyn

01:08:45.280 because he's in a fucking traitor and supports every terrorist group on under the sun and literally

01:08:50.560 his party remember like when when they are actually an actual party and they have like their press

01:08:55.280 conferences what they'll see is jeremy corbyn as a traitor with a bunch of muslim mps around him

01:09:00.560 and it is going to look like the islamic party of great yeah that's that's what it's going to be

01:09:04.240 that's true people are not that's gaza yeah exactly all they're talking about is gaza and possibly

01:09:09.120 you know communism and like weapons of war those subjects i would argue they're quite appealing to

01:09:14.720 the younger sort of audience right in this am i am i i mean the labor party it only gets something

01:09:20.880 like 35 of young people anyway yeah it's not even that popular right we we sell young people all

01:09:26.000 left-wing lots of labor are saying even though it will split about they're saying we're glad to get

01:09:28.960 rid of these people people like lord kassman blue labor and i mean starmer's got to deal with all

01:09:32.960 these nutcases now he's got less of them to deal with but they will lose some votes but as you say

01:09:37.040 say it's popular leo cursor signed up don't underestimate the appeal of corby's new party

01:09:40.160 i've signed up it's free so there is that communism works already um but anyway and the key thing is

01:09:45.760 to always keep the name in mind don't get confused about the name in case you forget corbyn was asked

01:09:49.760 what is the name and here he goes ah it's your party there you go so uh he can't stop saying that

01:09:58.880 but he means go and tell us the name and get on the website and you can suggest the name it's

01:10:02.720 name by committee imagine like from the start it's already a shit show anyway sorry we're not

01:10:06.640 going to spell that's fine but it's it but that that really is the whole point isn't it name by

01:10:10.400 committee everything by committee everything committees make is terrible absolutely it's not

01:10:14.640 really leadership is it no it's not leadership at all it's the absence is diane abba joining him

01:10:20.160 no and neither's uh john mcdonald he said no uh what what's the other one clive

01:10:25.760 lewis it's lewis isn't it he said no he said yeah yeah he did a long communist one statement

01:10:32.080 yeah it's clive lewis he did a long statement about how no no it's not the right time and all

01:10:35.600 this kind of yeah so it's going to be jeremy corbyn and his muslims and zara sultana who we can't

01:10:39.920 stand so clear already he said no no we're getting on fine in his interview said she's in coventry at

01:10:44.560 the moment i don't think he meant metaphorically but she was actually in coventry but like isn't it

01:10:48.560 amazing how badly they obviously get on already yeah and it's it's just a marriage of uh ideology really

01:10:54.480 yeah but anyway like i said i'm i'm not worried about this talk because i think when the country

01:10:57.680 sees jeremy corbyn and his muslims they'll be like no thanks yeah so that's the worst thing i've ever

01:11:02.560 seen what are you doing yeah faraj at that press conference the other day with two women either

01:11:05.520 side didn't he had sarah poach and then lila i think corbyn will just have two muslims they're

01:11:09.120 like full burka no no faraj had a meal recently 25 pound a ticket yeah for a head table the whole

01:11:14.000 head table how was it the whole head table i know something that went they said the whole head

01:11:18.000 table was pakistani muslims oh brilliant whole head table probably all the property owners

01:11:22.160 from london and bradford it's sears mates isn't it yeah we'll be sears mates yeah yeah

01:11:26.560 anyway right let's get some comments uh omar says i'm genuinely quite glad the establishment

01:11:31.040 have been so dogmatically categorizing all immigrants as good if they'd been even a little discerning

01:11:36.080 the replacement could have gone much further without pushback it's only because of the obvious

01:11:40.080 atrocities and resulting injustices that people are starting to notice the cultural incompatibilities

01:11:44.880 the enclaves and the ethnic resentment against the natives that's a great point actually like

01:11:49.200 like they're they're sort of incompetent's been like all immigrants good they could have said no

01:11:52.560 this category of immigrants bad and so we'll keep them out and so keep bringing in millions of

01:11:56.960 indians millions of pakistanis you know millions of whoever and so the cities would have changed

01:12:01.520 anyway and we would have been uh in less resistance to it so that's actually a really great point and uh

01:12:07.600 just go show you the low quality of the tyrants who rule over us i demand a better level of

01:12:12.560 gestapo um alpha the beta says the government will never tolerate unlawful and violent behavior

01:12:17.600 behavior says starmer so it's in their interest to provoke or instigate violence to give a license

01:12:22.320 to crack down their monopoly of violence is the trump card um yeah basically that's exactly what they

01:12:27.440 think uh gary says i can feel that everyone can feel the tension in the air most people i know are

01:12:34.240 talking about it it's tinderbox britain and there's no hiding it and this this is just the the real issue

01:12:40.400 that underlines everything as there's nothing they can do about it like they've completely painted

01:12:45.360 themselves into a corner because essentially if they were like yeah you know what we we kind of

01:12:49.200 do have to get rid of all of these hotels that's just a flat admission that everything the government

01:12:54.000 has done is completely wrong and they were wrong on everything when they say get out of the hotels

01:12:58.400 that's just they're just going to put them in the houses yeah so let's not really get rid of the

01:13:01.440 hotels because the men that they're in the hotel is going to get put next door to you in your house

01:13:04.560 in the state as well yeah yeah for your family you've been waiting fraser nelson was sharing that

01:13:08.400 stat wasn't he that these hotels have gone down in number so where have they gone well they're in houses

01:13:12.960 yeah brand new houses in the estate next to probably my mum you know it's 45 of them someone's bought

01:13:18.320 half a million pound house and you put a load of migrants next door they're actually deep more

01:13:21.760 deeply integrating them into the community that's it yeah because like we we that hotel that was just

01:13:26.560 across the road there that was a migrant hotel for about a year and a half but the thing is nothing

01:13:31.680 bad happened because it's like right in the middle of swindon there's no you know it's not an estate or

01:13:35.680 anything so there's no families around now they're in the states exactly now they're in the states so

01:13:39.520 it's actually even worse so thanks so much traitors um i'm not going to read out some of these comments

01:13:45.840 uh because people are quite angry uh safety is the constant excuse authoritarians used to justify

01:13:50.880 censorship they don't really care about the actual safety of the population just a buzzword to get

01:13:54.000 women on yeah i mean this is self-evident frankly from the online harms bills um uh and uh colin says

01:14:01.840 misogynistic nothing about misandrous content of course not of course they don't care about that uh

01:14:06.480 vonnegut's ghost said the mps aren't listening the mainstream media isn't listening everything

01:14:10.960 is disregarded their deafness and obliviousness to what is happening demonstrates their obnoxious

01:14:15.520 outlook they are willing to send us to oblivion uh yeah that's that that's honestly the the thing

01:14:20.800 that i think everyone really needs to take away from this this was the plan right this state of

01:14:25.680 affairs that we're in now this is the plan and this is what they're in defense of remember they're

01:14:30.240 like yeah don't you object don't you object don't you go out there and write we're going to stamp

01:14:33.840 down on you say something racist we're going to censor you and the platform you set it on

01:14:39.040 and this was the plan like they've been putting position all of the laws to make sure that this

01:14:45.040 is how things end up so that's the thing that like the average person needs to take away from this

01:14:49.760 uh ron says uh content that encourages or promotes violence online quran's going to be taken down then

01:14:57.920 well you know quran breaches every hate speech law they've brought in oh yeah i mean for what what is

01:15:03.200 it about the finding the jews behind the rocks in the last day the thief yeah like it's just like

01:15:08.240 yeah oh here's a jew yeah the end of the world won't come until all the jews have been killed

01:15:13.120 by the the trees or whatever it is it's like that's mad that's in hammers's manifesto of course

01:15:20.000 this is another thing as well so there are a lot of people like that was corbyn's new manifesto

01:15:25.280 a lot of people are angry at like israel for over gaza which fair enough i can understand a lot of

01:15:29.040 people like well hamas that band it's like look man hamas actually are that bad though

01:15:33.280 like it's that you know they are awful even if you don't like israel uh steve says uh this law

01:15:39.040 goes against our human rights article 12 of the united nations treaties of human rights

01:15:42.960 how can it be said that we as a people do not even have human rights anymore well again it just

01:15:46.800 goes to show you like all human rights for migrants exactly all of these things it is a two-tier

01:15:52.240 system and unfortunately you were at the bottom of that and as i mean i assume no one disagrees with

01:15:56.960 that statement as well um so uh omar says uh corbyn have the chance to do the funniest seat uh thing

01:16:03.280 vote zero seats um roman observer says any tax on the rich kills the middle class yeah this i'm so

01:16:10.320 i'm so sick of this whole like we have to talk about communism thing again it's like communism is

01:16:16.000 such a dead duck at this point you'd hope next one i meant to call say myself he's doing the old

01:16:22.080 abbott and gustella routine oh god it's like baron von warhawk says that's what i want to find out i want

01:16:26.320 you to tell me the name of corbyn's communist party i'm telling you your party what are you

01:16:29.200 talking about i'm asking for the name of the party i don't have a party yeah it's your party so it's

01:16:32.720 the old you know um who's on first album because that's what he's referencing that's the problem

01:16:36.800 with the name your party among other things it's also a terrible name sorry go on and i i no no no

01:16:41.760 it's great i i love the fact that politics joe had to come out and be like so what is it what is

01:16:46.960 it we're trying to help you here so um we've got about 10 minutes um i want to talk to you about um

01:16:52.880 what's it been like since you've been uh released from prison again like what's the sort of respect

01:16:57.600 reception been from like you know the online activists the the the sort of public figures

01:17:02.240 the the politicians any the media what's your experience been um the reception has been like

01:17:08.320 i just get love everywhere i'm going i get so and so much love it's actually insane to be honest

01:17:13.680 whether i'm in an airport jail come out of jail and i went matt i went i had to get the daily mail

01:17:18.160 video done so i went 100 mile an hour and then and then i started trying to do too many things

01:17:22.800 and then i sort of just felt wrecked and i thought i need to just concentrate and then i took some time

01:17:27.280 out tonight i went away with some um to slow down which is what i think i needed to do because you've

01:17:33.600 just been in jail for a year i think it's okay to take a holiday yeah that's it and i felt and i did

01:17:36.880 feel wrecked i felt pretty wrecked um so yeah but it's been the support i'm getting and the the public

01:17:44.480 support and the love will get shown everywhere it goes and say i went during i went down to a pub

01:17:48.720 and met liam tufts five of us sat and had our food land leads come over and said you're not paying for

01:17:53.120 that none of you are paying for that yeah this is during the day then i've gone for a chinese later

01:17:57.440 that night my mate in um in a village near luton sat on chinese and i order a lot yeah i order a lot

01:18:03.760 there's two of us but we both order a lot and then as we went to get the bill they said gentlemen

01:18:08.400 over there took care of you and this is just me sitting in the restaurant i'm just like bloody hell man

01:18:12.080 so and that's and i'm getting that reception everywhere i've gone man so it's been a it's

01:18:17.680 been a beautiful experience it's also it's great for my kids to see you know my kids get to see it

01:18:22.720 so when my kids see me places they just see that their dad's getting a lot of respect rather than

01:18:27.680 a man i i i've been i've been supporting you for a long time now and i've seen you go through the the

01:18:33.200 absolute ringer yeah like it wasn't like this like seven eight years ago no it's bad and and and

01:18:39.200 then even i think on this time i come out of jail i always thought i'd get back with my ex-wife and

01:18:43.600 then i had to really accept that that's never gonna happen so yeah so but yeah so i've i'm glad

01:18:49.920 things like that there is a cultural change because one thing that i've noticed a lot of people it used

01:18:55.200 to be that your name was oh no i can't associate i can't ever talk i can't go anywhere near and your

01:19:01.440 name is becoming slowly but surely rehabilitated yeah everyone's like actually that's toxic yeah exactly

01:19:06.800 actually um i mean you you've obviously calmed down as you've grown a bit older uh but actually

01:19:12.320 you were right about all these things and actually it was difficult to come out originally and say

01:19:16.480 these things and it was a bit frustrating it's the same people that shouted us down us all of us

01:19:22.880 and now sitting there trying to shout the loudest about these issues and i'm sitting there watching

01:19:28.240 it thinking no you were your attitude was part of the problem his british public was bloody morgan yeah

01:19:35.440 he was the guy he was the guy but not i'm meant to be on with him soon really yeah oh don't talk

01:19:39.920 bad about him yeah no i agreed to go on with him but then i need to be yeah yeah i think that um it's

01:19:45.440 an encouraging time do you know for how long have we waited for this and yes years and not just years

01:19:50.320 and then i sort of had to swallow my bitter pill because whilst i'm moaning about people who i've

01:19:54.880 always wanted everyone to talk about this issue so now that people are talking about the issue i then

01:19:58.640 started having little bitches at them thinking oh yeah well you weren't saying this but then i think

01:20:02.320 well we've wanted you to talk about it so i really i just swallow my own

01:20:05.600 bullshit and accept that now that it's good that it's good that the mainstream people are talking

01:20:09.680 about it it's good um there's so it was a lonely place wasn't it for a while it was and it was

01:20:14.480 difficult and the thing is as well like god the the amount of oh i've heard the name and now i've got

01:20:20.720 afraid because the the you know the the tension in their network is suddenly pulled the sins and it's

01:20:25.840 that that's happening less and less and less and i try to explain people look jordan peterson said he

01:20:30.560 expected a big backlash when he had me on then he had me on i didn't get any backlash well i tell

01:20:34.640 you what then just any backlash he goes but i had some real high-ranking people bringing me up saying

01:20:38.000 watched him for years oh that's brilliant yeah he said he said mate i've got no backlash that's

01:20:42.800 great my first interview none i one one thing i'm really thankful for for peterson is is platforming

01:20:48.240 normalizing that actually this is a real thing because in the uk man for anyone outside of the uk

01:20:53.440 like you know tommy's name has been satan for a long time right but i've noticed that people like

01:20:58.320 peterson although he still said that but people like gadsad in north america canada and so on

01:21:03.600 there wasn't the same toxic thing so it kind of exposed it as a bit silly because in this country

01:21:07.440 the americans didn't care they didn't because they didn't know they don't see it like that

01:21:10.400 yeah it was the same with me like i don't get to go on gb news you know as a panelist or anything

01:21:13.920 right but i'll get invited to everything in america yeah you know because they're all right

01:21:17.680 british commentator right wing you're a bit weak compared for our standards you know yeah you're

01:21:22.160 quite moderate even though the founder is anonymously retweeting you oh sorry not the founder the one of the

01:21:27.680 the main backers yeah yeah he retweets me every now and again it's like and i'm not you're banned

01:21:32.480 as well yeah and how can we be banned from the free speech oh well that's the thing it's that it's

01:21:37.360 the fear this this fear but i can feel there's a bursting of the dam it's like you know were you

01:21:42.960 were you interviewed for the the documentary that was on channel four yesterday i was interviewed for

01:21:47.200 this documentary that was on channel four oh yeah yeah they put me in and not only that apparently

01:21:51.360 i haven't seen it yet but that damn watched it and he was like yeah no they didn't stitch you up or

01:21:54.880 i know you come across one new oh great i'm glad to hear you that's here i haven't seen it yet but uh

01:21:59.280 i was worried gotta say but that's the thing i can you can feel a change in the air where like

01:22:03.440 actually maybe these guys just weren't evil bigots and actually maybe they had a point

01:22:07.360 um so i'm actually kind of optimistic uh the way things are going are the public you know that you

01:22:12.880 what they just said is um the media aren't listening the politicians aren't listening who gives a

01:22:17.280 shit if they're listening excuse my language again who cares if they're listening the public

01:22:20.560 are listening the public are wide awake and i've never it's never been a situation like this so i

01:22:25.280 sit i sit and think we're heading towards a political or a british revolution where the power

01:22:32.240 and the strength of voice is going to become so powerful it cannot be ignored but i mean how many

01:22:37.200 followers have you got on x at this point uh nearly 1.4 that's pretty 1.4 in about two weeks

01:22:42.800 back considering where you were five years ago oh no yeah bloody amazing well when i was de-platformed

01:22:46.480 from everywhere yeah you had millions and they gave me back my youtube channel didn't they when i walked out of

01:22:49.920 jowl that's why i got you on yeah strange all right if he's allowed on youtube then we can have

01:22:53.360 him on yeah that's it yeah um but the um because you know i would have had anyone before but like

01:22:57.360 youtube on youtube but the the the point that i'm driving at with this is that this is why

01:23:02.000 honestly you in particular can't go to these sort of events anymore in epping you're an institution

01:23:08.960 now you know that right like that means you're you're like um

01:23:14.160 um yeah you're like uh who's your favorite footballer who's my favorite footballer i fell

01:23:21.120 out of love with football over black lives matter okay it broke my heart it absolutely broke my heart

01:23:26.720 who's not the best who's like the the legend in football gascoigne was right okay paul gascoigne

01:23:30.880 can't just go down to your local club and kick the ball around with a few of the lads down there

01:23:34.880 right because that will cause in havoc okay okay the media will come down all of the fans will come down

01:23:41.120 but paul gascoigne's down that he can't just go and do that you're in that sort of position when

01:23:44.320 it comes to this sort of stuff right what we you need to do is essentially open the ground and say

01:23:49.040 right young lads like you've in fact like you've done earlier young lads who want to go and make a

01:23:53.120 name for themselves who can go down record like jack it's great man is it but you i love watching it

01:23:57.760 exactly but that's the thing you're you're you're at the sort of apex of it so you've got to like

01:24:01.520 clear the space for them you can't just be marching down there the i i honestly think that the the

01:24:06.160 september the 13th thing who else can pull that off man you're like the only person in the

01:24:10.080 country who can pull this sort of stuff off that's what you need to use your platform for

01:24:13.360 so like you can't just be marching around to these large one to use it to unify the public

01:24:16.960 well that's exactly right and that's the right thing for you to do at this point in your career

01:24:20.960 because you're you're right up there now man you know you are you are a name you're an

01:24:24.640 institution you can't you got you got to think responsibly in that sort of stuff you know what

01:24:27.920 i mean and uh but honestly so far i think you're doing pretty well actually and i'm really i'm

01:24:33.200 really pleased that everyone's playing their part you know you know so am i i'm gonna please

01:24:36.880 that how many people come together yeah i'm play do you know what i'm pleased about i'm pleased that

01:24:41.200 the public have listened and at each of our events because i understand how angry they are i'm angry

01:24:48.000 we're all angry but they've come with the right atmosphere with the right mood it's like bring

01:24:53.360 your smiles and bring your flags because that's how we laugh at them we need to stand there and have

01:24:57.120 a half million people singing laughing clapping dancing everyone's families are coming everyone's

01:25:01.280 families coming on september like you know pete and all of a sudden my family come in it's a

01:25:06.160 family change it's a family day it's mainstream yeah it is absolutely mainstream and what that does

01:25:11.520 is gives the confidence you know when people say what difference does it make we see all the cowards

01:25:14.960 in parliament yeah when they see that many people on the street it's going to give them a bit of

01:25:19.280 courage because they're all finding courage everyone's now finding courage it will give them the

01:25:23.520 courage to start speaking up it will give them the courage to start actually telling the truth about many

01:25:28.320 things and i say that when the dam bursts it's going to burst from so many people the trafalgar

01:25:32.960 one was particularly important i think because you saw michelle jewsbury went there from gb news

01:25:36.880 and she was just like there's nothing wrong with this i love her she's great this isn't a far right

01:25:41.440 rally this is just mums and dads and gb news have still never sent on it i know gb news has still

01:25:46.640 never sent on it so when i watched i remember when i was in jail and i watched other little

01:25:49.840 demonstrations and they're always there the farmers are there and they're live streaming it i think you're

01:25:53.680 meant to be the people's channel it doesn't matter what your viewers are me this isn't the tommy

01:25:56.960 robinson event it's a free speech festival for the british public in central london if hundreds

01:26:01.840 and hundreds of thousands of people are traveling from far and wide to go there to exercise their

01:26:05.760 free speech it's not newsworthy how is it not newsworthy you're meant to be the people's channel

01:26:10.320 you should be on the street asking them why have you come here asking the old people asking the

01:26:14.400 different and you know what else is insane the diversity of our support base it hasn't worked

01:26:19.440 when you think about it the propaganda the money all the attempts to to defame all of us one by one

01:26:25.360 everyone that sat around that table in the first meetings of that cultural movement from lawrence

01:26:29.200 fox me you calvin we've all faced relentless propaganda and attacks against our characters

01:26:35.760 and the public don't buy it and it's quite funny and this is the thing you get a lot of um online

01:26:40.720 activists so like what's the point of these um and it's just like look man the point is normalization

01:26:45.680 the pointless show and this is why the the dewsbury and trafalgar one particularly stands out in my

01:26:50.640 mind because she was just like well this feels completely safe and normal this is just very happy it's a

01:26:54.240 festival what's the problem you see reform there that wouldn't happen without the first first ever

01:26:58.880 demonstration i agree nigel farge was going to work in america on media yeah when he saw that first

01:27:02.720 demonstration in london i'm standing for election everyone's cheering for reform because he hadn't

01:27:06.720 stabbed us in the back yeah he could he could see the mood of the country on the street on the 13th

01:27:11.600 september the whole world's going to see the mood of british public so uh nick where can people find

01:27:17.360 more from you oh uh i've got my youtube which is just nick dixon and of course nickdixon.net which is where all

01:27:23.120 my expert content is and i've got brilliant interviews with people like carl benjamin

01:27:27.040 people like that guys you've heard of yeah yeah it seems all right uh we had josh firm on as well

01:27:31.600 oh really if you've heard of him yeah lewis where can people find more for you uh you can find me on

01:27:35.120 x where i post most uh substack as well just my name lewis brackpool and i use a bit of instagram

01:27:40.800 and youtube as well i've got my own channel and tommy where can people find you you can find me on x

01:27:44.960 you can watch my doc all of my documentaries are at trfilms.co.uk all my books are at trbooks.co.uk

01:27:51.760 and anyone wants utk or mega merch ready for the september 15th that's nationware.co.uk

01:27:57.440 all right well thanks for joining us folks have a great weekend and if you're for the gold zoom

01:28:01.840 call we'll see you in half an hour well about 20 minutes

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 25, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1216

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