The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1217

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the load seats episode 1217 for monday the 28th of july

00:00:11.100 2025 i'm your host luca joined today by beau the history bro and the special guest and friend of

00:00:17.380 the show leo curse thanks for coming hello and uh today we're going to be talking all about how

00:00:22.620 the british state has just no problems with banning free speech uh we're then going to be

00:00:28.260 talking about how the economist fails to understand the hotel protests uh average midwit at the

00:00:35.120 economist no doubt but they're supposed to i mean they're the sort of they're supposed to be the

00:00:38.580 smartest and the best and they're supposed to be like not bound by the sort of ideological

00:00:41.980 constraints that would maybe you know push the the guardian or something in a particular direction

00:00:46.840 they're supposed to be you know the trusted voice of the and yet and yet and yet well it's really

00:00:53.380 revealing of you know how how our political class is so removed from the very sort of obvious

00:00:58.860 truths about the whole thing yeah and then beau's gonna go beast mode and tell you about how literally

00:01:04.380 cares about women's football so a nice look about obvious truth yeah watching the game so a nice fun

00:01:11.820 segment to round it all off on so uh let's begin uh as you may have noticed the british government

00:01:19.360 is the worst form of petty tyranny everything that it does is incredibly arbitrary and we can't forget

00:01:27.240 of course that this uh labor government that's come in was it's really only here because the last

00:01:33.060 tory government imploded yeah there was no natural mandate for labor there was no hunger for labor

00:01:38.740 and yet they've come in and assumed a moral authority yeah which was totally on you know ungiven to them

00:01:47.220 and they've done the most radical things from it with it i mean i could talk about the abortion

00:01:51.780 issue i could talk about obviously uh everything to do with free speech and i will franchise right

00:01:58.720 the frank yeah 16 17 16 year olds voting changing the game yeah yeah um and just just announced like

00:02:06.280 no sort of public consultation or anything like that just like yeah we're doing it and it's funny how

00:02:10.860 things like that can be done things that are going to radically change the the electoral makeup of the

00:02:15.260 country whereas things like the rwanda plan which you know most people were in favor of and you know

00:02:20.680 had to be battered through various different houses and battered around and you know put through all

00:02:26.260 these groups and then finally kiboshed because the the uniparty the establishment that really runs

00:02:31.260 everything because the government you know you can vote in whoever you want but you still get the

00:02:33.900 government uh you know decided it didn't want it yeah and they have no tool that their favorite

00:02:39.600 tool to use is just pure suppression yeah pure suppression and uh it couldn't help but make me

00:02:44.880 think of this recent uh episode of chronicles that i did with uh stelios our uh resident greek in the

00:02:51.800 office so we took the opportunity to talk about some ancient greek tragedy and aeschylus is agamemnon

00:02:57.700 and so if you want to look at some of the oldest examples of

00:03:01.780 you can't shush me samson one of our producers is crawling around literally crawling around

00:03:12.880 you never make a navy seal

00:03:15.580 clear anyway as we were saying ladies and gentlemen

00:03:21.560 um agamemnon very old tale all about tyranny and suppression and revenge and spite and so if

00:03:29.920 you want to go and listen to a classic piece of ancient greek tragedy stelios and i are talking

00:03:35.020 about that on the uh on the website so let's start talking about something a little bit more

00:03:40.820 contemporary shall we so we have here you might remember from back in a long time ago uh this year

00:03:48.700 in fact uh february uh the starmer went to uh the united states sat down with the trump administration

00:03:56.240 and just lied to their face about how we have free speech in britain and how proud he is

00:04:03.440 of our tradition of free speech i think because he's got free speech he thinks everybody's got it yes

00:04:10.300 yes and evance pulled him up quite rightly yeah he did and he just told a flat-out lie

00:04:16.180 didn't he just flat out brazen i um well you know as we are seeing computers more and more

00:04:23.560 these days can lie so kia starmer is fully fitting into that style isn't he but you have

00:04:30.240 the online safety act and this is of course what everybody is talking about and the online safety

00:04:37.180 act was originally supposed to have been brought in because it was all under the guise of protecting

00:04:43.320 children online right we we have to think of the children right you can't trust parents well unless

00:04:50.040 unless uh there's a migrant hotel within walking distance of a school in epping and then you don't

00:04:55.280 apparently you don't need to care about oh right yes yes yes no absolutely that if um thinking about

00:05:00.800 children must go hand in hand with more government overreach and uh more tyranny yeah if it

00:05:08.820 eases off the government's responsibility puts more power in the hands of parents and just more

00:05:16.460 common sense in the community then obviously that's not an option that can be considered

00:05:20.960 uh of course it has to be said that all of the groundwork for this was of course laid by the talk

00:05:27.840 sorry the tories as well another left-wing government yeah yeah more left than labor actually in many ways

00:05:34.640 so manipulative isn't it it's like it was like the covey thing it's like the the ultimate argument

00:05:39.480 is are you trying to kill granddad and grandma if you don't do what we say you're killing the old

00:05:45.980 people it's like this if you don't allow us more censorship you're you're trying to destroy the

00:05:50.900 minds of little kids oh absolutely so manipulative yeah it is the thing is like the argument is fair

00:05:56.780 enough i haven't even got kids and i think it's a terrible thing that little primary school kids

00:06:02.160 some piece of shit kid could have his phone and he shows them something really rotten right yeah

00:06:07.720 that is bad that is bad and that's why to protect kids from that is great but to use that to extend

00:06:14.640 government censorship it's so low yeah yeah and like if it came in if it came in for porn you know the the

00:06:20.060 big the sort of headline around it was to protect kids from porn you're going to have online age

00:06:25.740 verification uh for pornography but then so why is it being used to to block like footage of riots

00:06:31.020 for example that's not well yeah immediately the same day there you go well exactly as morgoth says

00:06:36.720 it took all of 12 hours for the online safety act to switch from protecting kids from porn to censoring

00:06:42.760 protests outside of migrant hotels and of course i don't really need to tell anyone that it was the

00:06:49.260 latter thing that it was actually created for in the first place of course so you obviously have

00:06:56.500 another example here where carl this is uh this is as well a so ed davy was just doing some middle

00:07:03.600 class virtue signaling and carl just said to him sorry to interrupt your trivial middle class virtue

00:07:08.700 signal but some savage beheaded a man in london yesterday do you think it might be um something

00:07:14.140 to at least raise in parliament and as you can see here under the new legislation that has been taken

00:07:21.720 away so you can't see that anymore you can't see the danger that has been put on your own street

00:07:28.220 and it's weird that by the government this is a blue tick account so this is somebody who's who's

00:07:32.540 monetized their x account pays for their x account so you know you can reliably assume that they're

00:07:37.280 going to be over 18 because they've got bank accounts credit cards all the rest of it exactly

00:07:42.320 so all of a sudden even know that that's interesting i didn't even know there was a

00:07:45.820 heading yesterday that didn't show up in any of my feeds anywhere or anything no that happened i

00:07:51.560 neither the one right next to a bus and the guy's filming it and somebody's holding the guy's leg

00:07:56.640 legs i i couldn't comment on it i'm not i'm not clued in on this specific case i just wanted to use

00:08:02.760 it as an example yeah of what now is the landscape of of x yeah now that this legislation's been brought

00:08:09.440 in so you have here again i've just clicked on that link that it takes you to

00:08:14.420 and you get the how basically the new rules about how x is going to govern itself i'll actually go

00:08:22.600 into that in more depth later but of course elon has said that its purpose is the suppression of the

00:08:29.360 people obviously true for all the problems i have with elon uh he is of course very firm on this

00:08:35.260 particular point and has to the best of his ability uh allowed uh x to be a very free speech platform

00:08:42.560 yep and it's really really irritating to see x strong-armed like this yeah by a government that

00:08:51.860 genuinely cares for us probably less than elon does yeah yeah you know and he's a he's an ocean away

00:08:57.960 and he still cares more about us what about if i go on twitter through a vpn and use a non-uk

00:09:03.540 server would it then be well you then post stuff then you're not the only one to have this idea

00:09:11.960 as you can see here brought up the tweet just a few minutes after the online safety act went into

00:09:17.400 effect last night proton vpn signups originating in the uk surge by more than 1400 percent and as it

00:09:26.020 says there unlike previous surges this one is sustained and is significantly higher than when france

00:09:31.900 lost access lost access to adult content now obviously i'm uh i'm perhaps cynical and don't

00:09:38.540 believe that all 1400 percent of those are just uh online gooners i suspect some of them are actually

00:09:46.020 trying to yeah obviously get around for a bit more transparency about just what's going on in the

00:09:52.980 internet and what we can have access to in terms of information yeah and all those probably safer to

00:09:58.140 use a vpn than actually giving your id across to a porn site i mean i don't know if you've ever visited

00:10:03.360 porn sites but they don't seem the most uh the most reputable of uh websites and you know i don't know

00:10:09.780 how well they're going to treat my information but they don't seem to be treating those women very well

00:10:12.980 no no no not at all so this uh is obviously absolutely rocketed and you can see here a petition

00:10:20.900 that's already got about 350 000 signatures to repeal the online safety act which spoiler alert

00:10:28.040 of course they're not going to do um but um this is something you can ignore if you're the government

00:10:33.880 i mean yes they'll just ignore it yes but it shows the strength of feeling all right it shows the

00:10:38.360 strength of feeling it's not worthless absolutely no and and what's more of course we have to bear in

00:10:43.320 mind that one time a day um even a few years ago uh petitions like this could do very very well

00:10:50.920 and you can have lots and lots of signatures but there's no one in parliament that actually

00:10:57.160 feels the conviction of it and is obviously going to champion the people's concerns in the way that we

00:11:03.140 have rupert now to actually of course stand there in parliament in the houses of commons and um say all

00:11:09.760 these things on our behalf but obviously um end of an era for if you wanted to use 4chan in the uk

00:11:19.280 bad luck guys it's it's over really it's completely you can't go on it at all well starting from july

00:11:26.640 25th in accordance with the united kingdom's new online safety act um will be immediately block and

00:11:33.900 cease all access to all its content for visitors from the uk and british overseas territory

00:11:39.600 so i mean if anyone wants to try out those proton vpns and you know get that i mean i'm actually i've

00:11:47.460 never really used 4chan myself personally me neither but um but i realize the magnitude of it of them

00:11:53.620 having to obviously put out a statement like this um so and of course it's more relentless than that

00:11:59.740 it's always even more pernicious than what you might first think uh on the surface as lewis points out

00:12:06.880 here we're in a far more serious position than most realize when it comes to the online safety act

00:12:12.040 the secretary of state yvette cooper petty tyrant can override ofcom if she deems certain content

00:12:19.520 harmful and ofcom has little power to push back bearing in mind uh leo uh you tell me how charitable

00:12:27.340 uh ofcom as an institution and to think that there's someone more tyrannical more cynical more

00:12:35.060 pernicious than ofcom how and also i mean there's other issues around ofcom i mean you know they're

00:12:39.340 part of the woke blobs they've got their own ideological bent they're they're geared towards

00:12:44.760 you know seeing certain things as harmful and other things uh not as harmful this whole thing of you

00:12:49.320 know harm i don't want it yvette cooper or ofcom or some you know apparatchik who knows nothing about

00:12:55.620 me to decide what's harmful for me i think i've got a better idea of what's harmful to me and my family

00:13:00.820 than than these people who want to put a migrant hotel next to my family uh i think it's i think

00:13:05.740 it's ridiculous and also also ofcom doesn't have the resources to police the entire internet uh fairly

00:13:11.580 and effectively uh so it's obviously just going to be targeted at uh you know certain people um and

00:13:18.060 certain i mean lotus eaters would be you know something that's critical of the government would be

00:13:22.660 would be something i would never dare it's taking the actual home secretary or the home office just

00:13:31.020 taking responsibility for the fact if ofcom hasn't got the ability the resources the time

00:13:36.820 to actually police this stuff yeah how is the home secretary gonna do it or even if she hands it off to

00:13:43.140 a team of people in her office or something it doesn't make any sense it doesn't really add up i think it

00:13:48.780 might be the same sort of strategy that they use with the the southport rioters so you know they

00:13:54.240 dished out incredibly like ridiculously heavy sentences to a few people like lucy connelly well

00:14:00.660 not not a few quite a lot of people but lucy connelly for example so that's a big sort of headline

00:14:04.940 sentence that everybody knows about so that's you know to sort of intimidate anybody else who might

00:14:09.600 be thinking about it and to not doing it in case they get 32 months in prison so i should imagine this

00:14:15.900 you know make some big headline takedowns to sort of warn other people oh if you criticize the

00:14:22.680 government's policy on anything or you know on these particular issues or you know go against

00:14:27.140 our ideologies then you're going to be in trouble too which puts every the british public in a very

00:14:32.820 impossible position because there's just so much to criticize of the government and the free speech

00:14:38.880 union actually did a very good write-up of what a lot of this entails now i'll just go through some of it

00:14:45.080 they go on to say that at the heart of the regime is a requirement to implement highly effective age

00:14:51.640 checks uh it's a plat if a platform cannot establish with high confidence that a user is over 18

00:14:57.860 it must restrict access to a wide category of sensitive content uh even when that content is

00:15:06.640 entirely lawful this has major implications for platforms where news footage protest clips or political

00:15:13.760 commentary appear in real time offcom's guidance makes clear that simple box ticking exercises

00:15:20.200 like declaring your age or agreeing to terms of service will no longer suffice instead platforms are

00:15:28.140 expected to use tools like facial age estimation id scans open banking credentials or digital identity

00:15:38.480 wallets so more and more of your information in the government's pocket why can't they do any of

00:15:45.100 this on illegal migrants coming across the channel well and if we're worried about safety why aren't we

00:15:50.340 doing this like we don't we don't have any idea who's even the identities of people coming across

00:15:55.000 because they tear up their passports so they can then assume whatever identity they want and whatever

00:15:59.000 age they want i mean this is a regime that places 25 year old migrants from pretty barbarous cultures

00:16:07.000 into primary schools with children because the migrants say that they're children absolutely

00:16:11.900 absolutely no it's um everything about it is inverted everything about it is inverted um the hypocrisy the

00:16:21.040 double standard is so glaring it's so glaring but it's um but again you know the the people in

00:16:28.300 government they're not smart people are they uh they have no understanding of containment they think that

00:16:34.380 they can just clamp down but what they don't understand is that with everything they throw

00:16:39.280 at us the rage the ire the distrust it all swells yeah it all just grows more and more the pot boils

00:16:47.000 and eventually they have to back down and do what the public want like we're seeing seeing an epping i

00:16:51.860 mean that hotel is eventually going to get shut down same with bally mina you know those those

00:16:56.360 problematic families that were causing issues for the locals they're not going to be able to come back

00:17:00.200 into that community but if they just listen to people before it got to that point if they just

00:17:05.100 when people democratically express their their wishes listen to the people and do what they want

00:17:11.400 before it gets to the stage of protests outside hotels and molotov cocktails oh yeah but

00:17:17.960 then that would be unkind to the migrants wouldn't it and that's the only only constituency that the

00:17:24.780 government actually cares about being compassionate towards i think it'd be kind to them because i

00:17:29.580 mean britain is such a horrifically racist patriarchal country god i just i cannot countenance

00:17:35.600 i just cannot like it just it breaks my heart that these people are being forced to to live in such a

00:17:41.000 horribly racist place so it'd be nice to resettle them in somewhere like rwanda for humanitarian reasons

00:17:47.220 well uh for them we'll just put a pin in that just for a second because we're going to come to it in a

00:17:51.920 second but the uh what appears to be emerging the final concluding point from this what appears to

00:17:57.180 be emerging isn't just a two-tier internet but something subtler and more insidious a default off

00:18:03.600 mode of speech and expression where access to all lawful content is no longer presumed but withheld

00:18:10.120 until certain hurdles are cleared on platforms like x the door is currently closed before users even

00:18:17.300 approach it elsewhere for full access depends on navigating a system of checks and classifications

00:18:24.060 either way the long-standing assumption that legal speech should be visible by default is being quietly

00:18:32.060 dismantled wow and this is of course all ties in to the fact that as you exactly what you were saying

00:18:42.880 when you look at balimina when you look at epping when you look at uh the recent betrayal with what

00:18:50.520 happened with all those afghans coming into the country yeah all these sorts of things that's a

00:18:55.880 good point how come the the government when it wants to bring in 33 000 afghan men some of whom are

00:19:00.740 apparently jihadists and you know yeah taliban yeah used uh used their corrupt contacts and family

00:19:08.600 members to actually get on the list to come to britain so they're the absolute opposite the people

00:19:12.620 we should be helping how come when the government wants to do something like that it doesn't have to

00:19:16.800 be open and scrutinized it can keep everything secret like how come the government's allowed secrecy

00:19:22.440 but we are not surely you know we'd be better with an open society

00:19:27.900 somebody should set up an open society foundation

00:19:32.240 yeah we'll see how that goes down um once again once again just the double standard

00:19:40.300 is it's so obvious it's right up in your face in fact they're sort of smushing it in your face

00:19:46.540 yeah yeah aren't they really yeah oh yeah entirely and um so you know in response to all of this and

00:19:53.660 especially all the all the protests we're now seeing outside of the uh the asylum hotels uh we've got

00:20:00.120 this for a bit of news elite police squad to monitor anti-migrant posts elite on social media yeah as

00:20:09.620 elite as um someone working for the government could get aren't their resources already massively

00:20:15.280 overstretched well the resources take priority in being redirected here no there's always there's

00:20:21.540 always money for state suppression yeah always is this the guy looking at looking at a facebook page

00:20:27.100 right now yeah there's a monitor just out of shot can't click that mate he says screaming at the

00:20:34.980 monitor they're allowed i knew i should have got a blue yeti instead of this microphone

00:20:38.340 uh so we have an elite team of police officers is to monitor social media for anti-migrant sentiment amid

00:20:47.320 fears of summer riots detectives will be drawn from forces across the country to take part in a new

00:20:55.040 invest in a new investigations unit until that will flag up early signs of potential civil unrest

00:21:03.000 the division assembled by the home office will aim to quote maximize social media intelligence gathering

00:21:11.100 after the police forces were criticized over their response to last year's riots

00:21:16.400 so they the idea the philosophy behind it is that by taking all of this data they're going to find

00:21:24.580 the people who will be the wrongdoers and of course come down hard on them before the streets can

00:21:30.800 actually explode with all the south parts yeah it just so happens to be that the people that they want

00:21:36.700 to go after is the people who have a problem with all of the illegal immigrants and just criminal migrants in

00:21:45.980 the country right this is um and interestingly the so they want to clamp down on any any sort of

00:21:53.060 social media post that could give rise to any real life protests outside hotels or migrant centers or

00:21:58.340 whatever and they want to you know clamp down on anybody trying to coordinate those protests but the

00:22:04.100 counter protests that go in you know the the stand up for non-cism all those people who go in the

00:22:10.240 far left agitators who go in and actually try and provoke some sort of uh conflict with the

00:22:15.800 protesters uh that's actually coordinated that's that's not just allowed to be coordinated that's

00:22:22.020 encouraged and funded and assisted by the state so they get a police escort into the area they get

00:22:27.580 they get funding through the unions and through you know various you know uh money from from the

00:22:33.380 government is funneled to them in various ways and it's it's all extremely dodgy why are they

00:22:38.600 you know they're essentially the the establishment street militia oh absolutely why are they allowed

00:22:45.200 to to coordinate their protests but then you've got some families worried about their kids worried

00:22:50.720 about a migrant center opening near their school and the families are treated you know they're smeared

00:22:56.340 as racists and now they're going to be prosecuted under the online safety act oh the oppression has never

00:23:02.420 been stronger never been stronger i've used the analogy a number of times so i'll make it moan and do it

00:23:07.260 again of a pressure cooker and uh you know the pressure cooker is going to explode at some point

00:23:13.480 so you just pile more and more weight or pressure on top of the lid to prevent it from exploding but

00:23:20.060 that can will only work for so long yeah it can't hold forever so for example with this you would have

00:23:27.360 thought that the better the more prudent thing to do would be to address the actual issue people's

00:23:33.180 actual concerns with let's say in this example migrant hotels near schools and evidence of actual

00:23:40.400 sex crimes and things to actually deal with that in some way no no no we'll just double down triple

00:23:45.380 down quadruple down yeah on keeping the pressure cooker in yeah and uh it can't last forever it just

00:23:52.720 can't and i think it gets compared to to communist china and you know the soviet union quite a lot but i think

00:23:59.480 in china uh they although they do have state censorship people are allowed to pretty much

00:24:06.100 do what they want economically they're free they can you know there's less restrictions on running a

00:24:10.500 business and uh also nationalism is encouraged especially the you know the ethnic han majority

00:24:17.220 and there's no migrant hotels being open near primary schools in china they take the opposite you know you

00:24:25.340 might think that the persecution of the uyghur muslims is is brutal but there's there's zero uh

00:24:30.840 islamist terror in in china there's you know there's no sort of multiculturalism being forced on an

00:24:36.760 unwilling population well you know the the only influence that we took from china was the lockdowns

00:24:43.180 yeah yeah that's that's a part of the chinese society that the uh british state went yeah a bit more

00:24:48.520 of that actually over here that's what that's what we need but then you have um saying that this will

00:24:53.940 be a dedicated function at a national level for exploiting internet intelligence to help local

00:25:00.100 forces manage public safety threats and risks and by threats and risks they of course mean you watching

00:25:07.160 this right they mean the british public yeah at large the people the mums and dads the children

00:25:13.000 who are scared about as you say just walking to school yeah every day or just growing up in some

00:25:20.560 of these multicultural hellhole cities now yeah um it's absolutely monstrous it's really really monstrous

00:25:26.800 um and so but you know as i pointed out like this is going to be all the personnel required to keep

00:25:34.700 up with the amount of anti-migrant sentiment i personally pose and this is if this is just me

00:25:40.720 right then it's double that for you so it's it's absolutely ridiculous they don't have the

00:25:48.520 resources to do this historically whenever any government has tried to deny reality has tried to

00:25:58.380 or not just government any organization has tried to run fly in the face of of real life of what's

00:26:04.920 happening and when it when it asks you to deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears it's

00:26:10.720 it won't last forever it cannot last forever yeah they can go crazy they can go full mal

00:26:15.180 they can go full starling on it it will not last forever yeah yeah it cannot do and people always

00:26:22.100 find a way around as well like professor david betts raised the issue so in the eastern bloc under

00:26:27.460 soviet communism people wanted to listen to western music but it's banned obviously so uh so they found

00:26:34.220 out that they could bootleg music onto medical x-rays because i guess they're you know the hard

00:26:38.180 plastic uh so yeah they could basically you know engrave it like a like a phonograph like a record

00:26:43.940 uh so it was called bone music because it would be like literally played on this on this x-ray of a

00:26:48.980 bone right and so people always find a way of you know getting round i mean that that today that would

00:26:55.160 be uh you know a lily phillips being uh that's cool that's interesting i've never heard that before

00:27:03.680 that's fascinating but you're absolutely right if you look at the the worst times during during mal

00:27:09.020 the worst times during the stalinist era people will always find a way around it it's very very

00:27:14.740 very difficult almost impossible really to to deny reality to keep the truth even small elements of it

00:27:20.980 from getting out very very difficult and in this age where there are vpns and even if they ban vpns

00:27:26.820 there'll be a new version coders will get round it somehow yeah and with everyone's got a phone

00:27:32.340 um it will be very very difficult yeah they'll need teams endless banks of people trying to and failing

00:27:39.600 to completely censor the truth reality they can't do it they're up against uh a tidal wave of truth

00:27:48.740 yeah the entire project the entire blairite project has uh for as long as i've been alive

00:27:55.020 is just waging a war against human nature itself yeah right against the need for a sense of place

00:28:02.180 home identity safety yeah all these sorts of things that you know human beings that societies look for

00:28:09.580 comfort it's a religion the whole the idea is you know behind it blank slate ism so if you bring this

00:28:15.300 24 year old man from the horn of africa yeah he's going to be exactly the same as this man who was

00:28:20.580 born and raised in somerset that's an absolute obvious nonsense but you know this is absolutely

00:28:26.900 they're exactly the same exactly the same oh we must celebrate the cultural differences but they're

00:28:31.900 exactly the same well you know it's that thing if they're so worried about anti-migrant sentiment

00:28:38.180 yeah well if you were to would it not follow that if you were to um simply deport the hostile

00:28:44.580 migrants you might get rid of the hostile sentiment exactly yeah yeah and it's not as if like i mean

00:28:50.680 and this would probably head off uh what could i mean it looks like the the country's sort of

00:28:55.420 spiraling towards some horrific inter-ethnic inter-demographic conflict you know like yugoslavia

00:29:03.740 like lebanon like syria like all the places that multiculturalism has been tried uh and if that

00:29:09.840 could possibly be headed off or greatly lessened if you know the worst the worst of the people who've

00:29:16.040 illegally entered the country could at least be deported yeah but i've never i've never seen the

00:29:21.460 government make a good pivot no you know ever to be honest with you not and certainly never for our

00:29:28.740 good yeah you know only from their own sense of self-preservation but fortunately not all mps are

00:29:34.700 the same we have one one just one man alone good prince rupert good prince rupert fighting the fight

00:29:42.860 uh rupert cromwell uh saying saying he's got a cromwell but he's named his dog cromwell i think that's

00:29:51.820 fine uh i've written to the home secretary about her reported plans to monitor anti-migrant sentiment

00:29:57.760 on the internet through a dedicated elite police team we must hold this dreadful government to account

00:30:04.260 and if i were to offer just one uh nugget of consolation to those listening i would just say

00:30:12.600 that all of this all of this that is being brought in every piece of legislation designed to oppress us

00:30:18.820 it doesn't have to last forever yeah right there are many many patriots in the united kingdom

00:30:23.880 and rupert is just one of many right one of the best of them and you know this uh this government

00:30:31.940 is exhausted already and it's only but they seem to be hell bent on you know creating a situation

00:30:39.240 from which you know like something something will arise that will make the nazis look tame i mean because

00:30:46.300 we've got the we've got the the amount of i mean it really feels that the the country's at breaking

00:30:51.840 point and economically were due a massive default on our debt and you know the the country's economics

00:31:01.280 is going to absolutely spiral we're they're going to have to they're going to be forced through

00:31:05.540 necessity because they can't borrow any more money to slash public spending slash nhs slash the police

00:31:12.160 and slash all the benefits that people have been enjoying for for so long yeah so when that happens

00:31:17.740 i mean we saw what happened in the weimar republic and the weimar republic comparatively compared to

00:31:24.400 to britain has you know fewer social tensions than we do now so you know i can't believe the government

00:31:34.180 is being so short-sighted and isn't seeing the danger that it's lining the country up for when that

00:31:39.400 economic crash comes that's going to spark uh could be an absolutely horrific time to to be in britain

00:31:46.000 i agree with what you said there it does almost feel like it's deliberate or has been for many years

00:31:51.440 that it's not like they're just so stupid so blind to it no it's it feels deliberate like if you wanted

00:31:58.780 to create this sort of situation you would have done everything they've done over the last 15 odd years

00:32:04.260 yeah yeah yeah but i feel i mean i feel like it is being done almost sort of accidentally because

00:32:09.820 they're just kicking the can down the crisis management kicking the can down the road uh trying

00:32:14.060 to you know control and also they're trapped in their own echo chamber where everybody around the

00:32:18.560 labor party still absolutely subscribes to the you know the sort of um wokeism critical race theory

00:32:25.660 oh yeah all this sort of nonsense so they won't see you know they'll be like well of course we

00:32:30.360 should have migrant hotels next to primary schools i mean that's incredibly enriching and good for the

00:32:33.820 schools they won't see any danger they won't understand that any parent could be opposed to to that

00:32:39.980 no not at all and um obviously you know when you think of like the people the women in particular

00:32:45.820 in the labor cabinet like yvette cooper right i imagine these are people who were very very concerned

00:32:51.020 about fictional dystopias right like those in the handmaid's tale or something like some nonsense

00:32:56.940 like that right which ironically is based on iran post post revolution in 1979 so it's not a critique

00:33:03.320 of uh of christian you know the sort of western far right or whatever it's a critique of islamism

00:33:09.360 it's weird that they you know they're not seeing that warning from it well but the point is that you

00:33:14.160 know at the same time these people are more than happy to create a dystopia for us to live

00:33:18.760 of our own something far worse frankly than anyone could have contemplated and um but i think it's

00:33:26.840 showing its brittleness to be honest with you it lacks tact it lacks any sense of containment and

00:33:33.260 i don't think it'll last forever yeah so uh let's go to the rumble rants so i've got uh alex adamson

00:33:42.300 says uh rejoice gentlemen the five new labradors there are that what they're a small litter do you

00:33:50.240 to i'm sorry i um if you're saying that your dogs had a litter then i'm very very happy for you

00:33:57.640 i think that's what they say oh right well wonderful uh has vacation says always remember the tories were

00:34:05.420 the ones that made them pass the online safety act labor only used it as a logical conclusion uh

00:34:12.020 because they're predictable garbage yep absolutely um engage few penny for the kia yes um we've got

00:34:21.300 logan 17 pines says uh you can tell that the dark lord is not home yeah uh he would have been smarter

00:34:27.820 about this and would have waited at least a month yeah but um it looks like they're still all getting

00:34:33.720 the digital id in place don't they uh have vacation says the tories had every chance to prevent this

00:34:40.200 the tories as an institution of parasites uh that must be destroyed i don't care about the good tories

00:34:46.840 well as i say i i'm not cared about a perfect victory i'm cared about victory i care about victory

00:34:54.140 so we will see what opportunities are presented to us in the coming years i suppose and i think the

00:35:00.340 tories were sort of hamstrung by the fact that you know government can't really actually affect that

00:35:05.160 much change it sits above this blob that you know trust talks about uh that that really controls

00:35:12.280 everything and you know i think you know the the idea of that the idea of having the ballast in the in

00:35:16.720 the in the uh bottom of the ship that stops the ship veering too far off course when you get a new

00:35:22.460 government in that makes a bit of sense but you know in this case the the that ballast has been

00:35:26.860 you know that blob has been absolutely captured by you know far left activists and as a result you

00:35:32.840 know even uh even the the people in the tories who wanted to do something good couldn't do it yeah but

00:35:38.740 also the the tory party for all these years was entirely staffed by lib dems who kind of just

00:35:44.100 agreed with all the pre-substitutions of labor anyway it's like you're not you're not diverse enough

00:35:49.480 they're like good point so um uh opunk says i'm sure censorship is going to stop the english getting

00:35:55.960 mad about the government uh giving their kids future and safety away yeah absolutely absolutely

00:36:00.900 it's like well yeah all the policies that they implement are the real ones threatening the safety

00:36:06.400 of children into as we covered in it um we'll we'll move on from there sorry folks just for the

00:36:12.880 sake of time we'll get back to those rumble rants if we've got the time okay yeah so yeah so i'm going to

00:36:18.340 talk about uh what the economist gets wrong about the hotel protest so i subscribe to the economist

00:36:24.020 uh i read it because it's you know it's widely read and respected it's it sort of distills a lot

00:36:29.060 of information down into quite a concise form it's a view into our uh political class and it's

00:36:34.000 traditionally been quite sort of evidence-based and rooted in you know western values it's rejected

00:36:40.620 fashionable ideologies when they when they come along such as gender ideology it was an early uh you

00:36:46.660 know mainstream critic of gender uh gender ideology which i mean you could ask uh you know that the

00:36:51.600 stupidest man in weatherspoons could tell you that drugging sterilizing maiming children is possibly not

00:36:58.160 the best thing for them you know what i mean like maybe he can write for the economist too one day

00:37:02.160 he might do a better job um but yeah i mean the trouble is the sort of post-war liberal consensus that

00:37:08.060 the economist still subscribes to is starting to unravel when we touched on it in your segment when we're

00:37:13.380 talking about uh you know like blank slateism for for example this idea that people are just

00:37:18.000 interchangeable economic units and you can move you know if you move the population of somalia to

00:37:22.900 norway and the population of norway to somalia norway wouldn't be the same and somalia wouldn't be the

00:37:28.200 same and somalia would probably be uh highly functioning country

00:37:34.340 although um swapping out one bunch of sea raiders for another might be an interesting

00:37:41.860 interesting experiment yeah that's a good point that's a good point they wouldn't have to change

00:37:47.480 all the exhibits in the museum yeah uh just change what the boats look like um so yes so the economist

00:37:53.160 did a did a big this this week they did a big uh in in here uh did a big segment on one year since

00:38:01.280 the riots uh it's about disorder on the streets since southport and it says britain should have

00:38:06.920 recovered from the disturbances by now instead it has got worse so let's see how our elites how our

00:38:12.800 political class view southport and the hotel protests since then so the the article i'll just

00:38:18.000 read the article and you know we can comment on it as we go through it is hard to recover from an

00:38:22.160 enormity from an enormity and southport north of liverpool suffered too on july 29th last year a 17

00:38:28.800 year old named axel ruda cabana murdered three young girls and tried to kill many others the next

00:38:34.280 day as rumors spread that the killer was a muslim asylum seeker a mob attacked a nearby mosque and a

00:38:39.840 police van the windows of the mosque are still covered with protective screens uh and it's

00:38:44.500 interesting they talk about you know in this article they talk about the sort of false information

00:38:48.020 that was spread um but i mean the the the mainstream narrative is that he wasn't a muslim asylum

00:38:55.760 seeker but his parents came here from rwanda in what around around about the turn of the century

00:39:01.220 very likely although we've never been explicitly told very likely uh if not as asylum seekers under

00:39:09.720 asylum you know the asylum system then certainly fleeing uh fleeing the the genocide and the war

00:39:15.940 in rwanda so you know i don't think it's misinformation to say that he is in some way he

00:39:20.800 was born in the uk shortly after that but i think it's you know it's not misinformation to say he's

00:39:25.840 an asylum seeker as for the fact is he is he muslim um i mean he's not he wasn't raised muslim uh was

00:39:32.720 he radicalized online into islamist ideology he had al-qaeda manuals and it would fit with a pattern of

00:39:39.380 ethnic minority men born in britain radicalized online such as uh sudes a man so this guy here so

00:39:45.660 you know he was uh he was radicalized online we've seen many instances of this and i don't know if

00:39:50.080 the alienation that somebody uh who isn't native to the country you know might feel would would play

00:39:55.380 into play into that so people would look for an identity look for some sort of revenge axel

00:39:59.860 rudicabana certainly spoke about finding revenge so what were his motivations what were his did he have

00:40:05.660 an ideology they're trying to get his oh trying the authorities are trying to get axel rudicabana's

00:40:11.480 browsing history certainly seems to be taking a long time you'd think that'd be maybe something

00:40:15.240 that'd be moved to the top of the pile on that desk why is it taking so long you know what i mean

00:40:19.240 um the table is he's spying on those frantic rudicabana sentiments how come they can use the

00:40:24.720 online safety act to get anything that we've done online anything that we've looked at online but

00:40:28.760 they can't tell us what axel rudicabana was looking at online nonsense isn't it absolutely just

00:40:34.100 liars they're just lying it's that they can't do that or haven't done it yet it's just nonsense i mean

00:40:38.280 and also a small point well it's not a small point but a point to make is the fact that he was born here

00:40:44.400 yeah so yeah so what wasn't that salmon abedi born here right wasn't wasn't the jihadi uh the

00:40:53.420 beatles you remember the beatles the four the four uh they called them they went out to syria and

00:40:58.720 did people they called them john and all right and stuff those they were born here yeah when a lot of

00:41:04.940 the all of the 77 and 217 bombers or most of them at least some of them on 77 anyway were born here

00:41:11.380 if anything if anything it sort of blows a hole in the whole uh liberal idea that a blank slate ism and

00:41:18.900 anybody who comes here you know integrates and becomes british because we're seeing people born

00:41:23.100 here who certainly carry the or seem to be influenced by the openly haters the culture and history and also

00:41:30.920 was he motivated by anti-white racism the critical race theory that's espoused by the labor party

00:41:37.000 you know and espoused by the establishment um i mean it's interesting that people with origins in

00:41:42.100 other countries are you know if you like the the narrative is that he's oh he's he's a welsh choir boy

00:41:47.560 oh he's so british you know i mean it's like hmm i think that's the misinformation because you know

00:41:52.320 people with origins in other countries are encouraged to celebrate their cultural differences

00:41:56.080 and heritage and all that sort of stuff but axel rudikaban is just british oh he's just british

00:42:00.340 and that's it there's no influence or any heritage or anything that he's bringing with them uh that

00:42:06.680 comes from you know the genocidal nation of rwanda that he came from imagine what he was brought up

00:42:12.360 like can you imagine i can't really but the conversations that must have happened or not

00:42:17.400 happened around their their dinner table so to speak yeah well because you children or even teenagers

00:42:23.340 are a reflection of their upbringing they're a reflection of their parents

00:42:27.020 can you imagine what sort of craziness was put into his mind by his parents to do what he did

00:42:34.280 what i mean i can only imagine right well i mean that's that's just sort of speculation because we

00:42:40.600 like his father his father seems to be seems to be integrated but it's interesting that you know

00:42:47.400 like like you're saying earlier the people are born here you know that have integrated parents

00:42:51.780 the first generation migrants who come here have an urge to integrate but then the second generation

00:42:57.060 the third generation the fourth generation the people that we're told are british are the ones

00:43:01.280 that then have issues with identity have issues with alienation have issues with being radicalized

00:43:06.860 online and you know i don't i just think i think there's a lot about axel rudikaban that that we

00:43:13.680 that we don't know oh yeah i'm not telling a lot from us then yeah the article uh continues

00:43:20.160 still southport has taken positive steps the victims families have formed community groups and

00:43:25.120 made it clear that they want no vigil on the anniversary of the murders public gardens in

00:43:29.820 southport's elegant somewhat faded center will be renovated as a tribute to the girls

00:43:33.560 the local mp speaks of stronger emotional bonds and a growing willingness to help others but in the

00:43:38.820 rest of britain by contrast the wounds inflicted a year ago fester violence broke out in many cities

00:43:43.580 and towns after the southport riot some places like belfast and london have long histories of disorder

00:43:48.080 in others the disturbances were shocking protesters clashed with the police in weymouth a southern

00:43:53.320 seaside town one of the worst riots was in tamworth near birmingham a town that gave its name to a fine

00:43:58.460 pig breed the crowd there attacked police smashed its way into a hotel with asylum seekers inside and

00:44:03.160 tried to set it on fire some were more like organized assaults than protests few attendees carried

00:44:08.720 placards although some were draped in british or english flags they attacked mosques and hotels

00:44:13.900 containing asylum seekers anybody who tried to stop them became a target in sunderland a taxi carrying

00:44:19.800 filipino nurses was attacked in burnley muslim graves were vandalized i mean obviously it's

00:44:25.520 it's terrible that graves are vandalized you know filipino nurses are attacked but it's almost as if

00:44:30.040 the government should have listened to people when they expressed their wishes democratically every

00:44:34.100 time there's been a vote or a proxy vote on immigration like brexit like anything like this

00:44:38.480 nobody's been like nobody's ever clicked the button saying please lots more islamic migration

00:44:44.520 please lots more lots more people come from you know deeply alien uh medieval cultures it's not like

00:44:51.040 we haven't uh generations and generations of brits haven't been voting for less immigration since

00:44:56.280 pow yeah genuinely since it all started yeah right that article listing off everything that was done

00:45:04.080 wrong by the protesters does it also go into any of the details of all the crimes that

00:45:08.980 that pro-muslim counter protesters did exactly i mean like does it late well later on it basically

00:45:15.760 refers to them as as just anti-racism or anti-fascism groups when we know they're the you know far left

00:45:21.620 radicals it's it's absolutely mental or using their mosques as sort of um weapon caches yeah yeah and

00:45:28.820 being being encouraged being told by the police oh leave your weapons at the mosque it's like leave your

00:45:33.360 weapons leave your weapons at the mosque excuse me or beating the crap out of some random guy

00:45:38.860 call it the arsenal yeah that's right beating the crap out of some random white guy sitting outside a

00:45:43.740 pub stuff like that remember that yeah there's lots of examples of things like that loads and loads of

00:45:48.680 examples and um they and yeah they and they they said remember the 13 year old girl who was charged

00:45:55.320 over a hotel riot um so if we move on to the next the next one sure the next tab um so this is a

00:46:03.140 13 year old girl charged over a hotel riot she admitted a violent disorder charge in that she

00:46:07.900 used or threatened unlawful violence that would cause a person to fear for their personal safety

00:46:12.280 so these adult male asylum seekers were terrified this 13 year old girl a group a group of adult male

00:46:22.140 asylum seekers terrified that a 13 year old girl was gonna beat them up i mean that's you know i mean

00:46:28.020 that's that's really sort of stretching the bounds of plausibility it's yeah it's it's almost a complete

00:46:36.740 subversion of the the grooming gangs it's like now we're going to see the grooming gangs we're going

00:46:40.660 to see the the victims of the grooming gangs prosecuted because uh you know for for forcing

00:46:46.160 themselves on i mean it's it's an absolute nonsense it says uh most rioters seem to have been

00:46:52.020 local people some had violent histories blah blah blah but the riots also drew families who had come to

00:46:56.720 watch and cheer almost one-fifth of those arrested in stoke were under 18 well now they've got the

00:47:02.360 vote so i mean i mean obviously that vote will get ignored if they vote the wrong way the the you know

00:47:09.860 to the to the regime um but the the this this bit's interesting protests and riots do not just

00:47:15.580 accomplish tangible things in the moment such as damaging property they also create movements

00:47:20.020 as people who hold niche or scorned views see their passions reflected in others eyes and actions

00:47:25.740 mr drury who studies crowds notes that tommy robinson a rabble rouser their words not mine

00:47:31.980 held a large rally in london two days before the southport murders extremists may have been in a

00:47:37.480 confident mood believing their vision of a foreigner free country was widely shared this seems i mean

00:47:42.680 it's the tommy fans that are the extremists yeah if you if you skimmed over that you'd think

00:47:46.520 tommy robinson was exploiting the well somehow exploited the murders before they happened well one

00:47:52.420 tommy robinson doesn't believe in a foreigner free country yeah exactly so they've entirely

00:47:56.900 mischaracterized that's an absolute myth it's a myth that tommy robinson is a foaming mouth

00:48:01.980 racist he's actually supportive of immigrants if we move on to the next tab

00:48:05.640 um here we can see uh tommy robinson actually um oh no not not this tab where's where's the one

00:48:12.400 i got another that one where is it yeah this one this one this so this is um basically they did a

00:48:18.940 sort of a street interview with this black british guy and i mean the guy doesn't completely you know

00:48:26.200 perfectly enunciate his his feelings but he seems like it seems like a nice guy and i think a lot of

00:48:30.460 people felt that you know all right he can't you know he can't you know name certain uh certain

00:48:38.520 things about britain british history or whatever but he's essentially imbued with you know relatively

00:48:43.280 british values and tommy robinson sticks up for him which you know i think a lot a lot of people did

00:48:48.120 a lot of people were saying oh he's not he's not he's not british because you know blah blah blah

00:48:53.320 tommy robinson stuck up for him would a foaming mouth racist stick up for him that's you know

00:48:58.380 that tommy robinson's supposed to be i don't know it seems uh it seems ridiculous uh so yeah

00:49:04.340 the article continues the riots delivered a brutal version of that message to migrants

00:49:08.280 rioting hit stoke-on-trent in the west midlands on the day that asha a charity had taken many

00:49:13.120 asylum seekers to the seaside they were marooned at the motorway service station while the police

00:49:17.460 worked to restore order godfrey semeniga of asha notices that asylum seekers seldom hang around

00:49:23.620 central stoke in the early evenings these days as they did before the riots occurred people are

00:49:27.880 still very scared he says i mean did anybody ask the residents of stoke if they wanted a bunch of

00:49:32.800 asylum seeking you know adult males from medieval cultures hanging around in their city center

00:49:37.680 and their 12 year old daughters walking past these guys i mean what about what about the feelings of

00:49:44.080 safety we're so concerned about the feelings of safety of these adult males who've decided to jump

00:49:48.360 on a boat and get here what about the feelings of safety of british children why are we prioritizing

00:49:53.260 their safety and not prioritizing british children's safety it just blows my mind

00:49:58.460 well also just something we covered on the podcast last week was that when these illegal hotels go up

00:50:04.940 they don't even have to inform the locals that they're happening they can just they'll just spring

00:50:09.580 up one day and you'll be like oh so that's a thing now yes in the center of my community right next

00:50:14.820 to my school in fact the epping one i think they they deliberately didn't tell the parents because

00:50:19.580 they were worried about any you know negative backlash or whatever so then the parents don't

00:50:23.580 even know oh by the way you should start driving your kid to school you know you got young daughters

00:50:27.860 you should start you know walking them to school instead of letting them walk in what was previously

00:50:32.800 a you know a pleasant homogenous british area it's not anymore it's been colonized by a regime that hates

00:50:40.280 you who wrote that article so this i don't know if they actually put authors in the economy they're

00:50:46.940 saying uh that the illegal invaders are no longer feel comfortable loitering in the evening sounds

00:50:53.720 like good good yeah good yeah and this is they're unwittingly you know saying it's like with bally

00:51:00.660 mina the government the regime is unwittingly said oh by the way if you want to effect change there's

00:51:05.960 no point going to the authorities there's no point complaining democratically raising your voice in a

00:51:11.100 council meeting we'll just call you racist and throw you out orla minnehane who is a resident in

00:51:15.560 she raised the issue in a council meeting she was worried about the hotel the migrant hotel she was

00:51:20.960 thrown out of the meeting so then what what people what are you leaving people as an option to do

00:51:25.940 except for direct action it's ridiculous um so yeah so the article continues britain's confidence in

00:51:32.740 multiculturalism was shaken too hope not hate an anti-fascist group i mean hope not hate or an

00:51:39.980 anti-fascist or anti-racist group in the same way the democratic people's democratic republic of

00:51:45.420 north korea is democratic is uh it's ridiculous um nick lowell's actually spread real disinformation

00:51:51.240 absolutely yes very dangerous very inflammatory could possibly have spurred real life uh violence

00:51:58.400 he said that uh basically said that there are acid attacks against muslim women so the implication was

00:52:04.360 that it's it's white british men uh throwing acid and british i mean he's straight away a basic sense

00:52:08.960 check you know where the white british men have done that you know i mean that's yeah it's not a white

00:52:13.020 british not our cultural thing exactly it's a that's uh other cultures that do that and i think

00:52:18.040 we know which ones they are but it's interesting so uh british future a think tank shows that people

00:52:23.660 are more concerned about divisions between immigrants and natives than between any other groups including

00:52:28.540 the rich and poor and attitudes to muslims and immigrants has quickly hardened i think they did

00:52:33.900 surveys right after the southport riots that showed that you know people you know were very

00:52:38.600 dismissive of the rioters didn't agree with the rioters uh but um and and were were sort of more

00:52:46.340 sympathetic towards the migrants and that's that's now changed i don't know if it's just you know the

00:52:50.200 ongoing reality of the situation and the fact that you know things are really rapidly getting worse

00:52:55.060 and there are no brakes on this on this train apparently um and they they talk about uh the police

00:53:00.940 vigorously pursuing the police vigorously pursued brick chuckers and laptop demagogues alike arresting more

00:53:06.120 than 1800 people we're arresting people and putting them in court the next day says ian drummond smith

00:53:10.540 who investigated the riots of the national police chief's council it helped that body worn cameras

00:53:14.700 and cctv are ubiquitous there's no exploration here of potential subversion of the independence of

00:53:21.740 the criminal justice system uh you know there certainly seems um suspicions that judges and duty

00:53:29.260 solicitors were being steered by the state being steered by the party and they should be you know

00:53:34.260 completely independent your duty solicitor if you're arrested your duty solicitor there's a state

00:53:39.120 provided solicitor should just act in your own best interests and uh you know there seem to be a lot

00:53:44.940 of people who are advised to plead guilty uh to relatively minor things lucy connolly you know it's

00:53:50.780 just a tweet she got 32 months after pleading guilty so they're advised to plead guilty in the

00:53:55.060 expectation they're going to be you know let off with a slap in the wrist and instead they're getting

00:54:00.180 the the maximum sentence possible um so is there any collusion going on i mean i'm very suspicious

00:54:06.860 that other people are very suspicious um well they don't even really try hide it do they we've spoken

00:54:13.960 to all sorts of uh legal eagles robin tilbrook or even stephen wolf don't plead guilty yeah just don't

00:54:21.440 do that yeah if they tell you you'll get uh we'll let you off with a slap on the wrist if you just plead guilty

00:54:26.140 now here sign it don't do that yeah that's like that's a lie that's a lie they're lying to you

00:54:29.760 that's like something the turkish police or the soviet police the nkvd would do like you know tell

00:54:33.420 you just put stuff in front of you oh just sign this and we'll make it all go away we'll stop

00:54:36.700 electrocuting your testicles it's like don't don't do that you know what i mean i think we're probably

00:54:42.180 just you know a few days away from the electrodes brits putting electrodes in testicles

00:54:48.120 have your day in court if they're accusing you of something let a magistrate or a jury decide

00:54:53.400 don't just plead guilty look at jamie michaels so jamie michaels is an army veteran who uh made a video

00:55:00.080 um after the the southport killings and really he just made some very good points that i think most

00:55:05.060 people would agree with he didn't say anything you know he said anything everything should be

00:55:08.820 peaceful any protesting or whatever he just made some very good points and he was arrested on the on

00:55:14.820 the orders or on the you know after um he was reported by a labor politician so this is you

00:55:20.420 know the party directing the you know the arms of the state to to do their political dirty work

00:55:26.000 uh so he was arrested and he had to spend because he pleaded not guilty he had to spend a couple of

00:55:30.920 weeks on remand uh because that was the other thing people were told if you if you plead guilty

00:55:35.600 then you know you'll get out of remand you won't be held until your trial um so he spent a couple

00:55:40.780 of weeks in jail but you know it took 17 minutes for a jury to find him not guilty the thing

00:55:44.760 was like all these a lot of these cases are just complete shams complete farces so like you say

00:55:50.380 yeah if you plead not guilty you know it's gonna it's gonna all fall down in court that's what they

00:55:54.860 say will hold you on remind you can go home today yeah you can go home in an hour if you just plead

00:55:59.560 guilty yeah yeah yeah so people go oh okay i don't want to be held on remand yeah well you just just

00:56:05.220 not a good idea yes you'll end up doing more time in the clink yeah yeah absolutely and you know with

00:56:10.920 your reputation absolutely smeared and everything yeah and interestingly the anti-racist groups it

00:56:16.280 says played a crucial role in the riots they rallied in stoke-on-trent hoping that anti-immigrant

00:56:20.160 protesters would abuse them rather than attacking targets such as mosques bait on the hook as one

00:56:25.320 later put it so they're inadvertently admitting that the left-wing counter-protests went to provoke

00:56:32.300 violence they were like you know we want them to attack us instead of the you know whatever it is

00:56:37.040 the police or the mosque or whatever it's like no you you're basically just saying you went there

00:56:41.360 because you wanted a rock you wanted a fight well there are headlines to create aren't they uh you

00:56:46.120 know people to put in prison you know there's a narrative to uh construct exactly yeah um and yeah

00:56:53.660 for all that people are called uh neo-nazis far-right racists i mean did these look like far-right

00:57:01.000 racist to you i mean probably probably the homemade placard yeah probably do by now well they are all

00:57:07.600 guilty of being white although the the woman who who apprehended the greatest crime of all the woman

00:57:13.700 who apprehended the alleged uh nonce in epping uh was a black woman and you know it's interesting that

00:57:20.620 you know there there are black people protesting i saw videos of a black guy uh you know smashing the

00:57:26.740 window of a police fan um so it's really you know about values rather than skin color but yeah they

00:57:32.520 do seem pretty white here inexcusable 2025 come on yeah come on where are the black women

00:57:40.580 but i mean do these look like neo-nazis and like you say homemade signs you saw the stand up for

00:57:48.980 non-cism signs all printed all funded all organized by you know various arms of the state ngos things like

00:57:56.340 that especially as uh more and more ordinary people just concerned citizens come out now on

00:58:01.560 the streets the the government um has an even greater impetus to get the counter protesters on

00:58:07.440 the seat yeah on the streets to at least give the appearance of some oh no there is another side that

00:58:13.420 agrees with what we're doing yeah look at all the placards look at all the people right obvious

00:58:17.660 nonsense totally astroturfed and everyone can see it yeah but that's obviously the reasoning behind it

00:58:22.960 yeah and i don't think it's fooling anybody anymore uh and yeah the article continues most

00:58:27.860 dispiriting are the political changes over the past year last summer britain's thought the prime

00:58:31.920 minister keir starmer handled the riots fairly well deeply well i mean in the polls in the polls they

00:58:38.680 they did say i mean i think it's because he you know he showed a bit of uh toughness and resolve but

00:58:43.600 really what he should have done is is come out and be like listen i understand you know that rwanda

00:58:48.160 plan that we all voted against we've decided it's a good idea you know like you should have done

00:58:52.260 something to just acknowledge that you know the british people i mean i really think that british

00:58:56.860 people should at the end of the day have some say in how the country's run um and yeah people

00:59:02.400 back then they gave lower marks to nigel farage leader of reform who had been railing against

00:59:06.520 asylum seekers for years in a much watched in a much watched video shot in 2020 he said the

00:59:11.600 residents of one hotel could be terrorists and other asylum seekers had committed horrible acts in our

00:59:16.020 country when the riots broke out he questioned whether the police were telling the truth about

00:59:19.680 mr ruda cabana now they're they're sort of implying there that nigel farage was spreading

00:59:24.280 misinformation he wasn't the residents could well be terrorists and it's overwhelmingly likely that

00:59:28.700 some of them are i mean look at the next tab taliban fighters brought to the uk uh are jihadists

00:59:35.080 there's thousands of jihadists thousands of people who are on the side of the taliban coming in

00:59:39.100 thinking now they can come in legally as well yeah we've had so many so many terrorists like

00:59:43.460 salman abedi the manchester arena bomber he'd gone back to to libya he was rescued from libya by the

00:59:49.120 royal navy and brought back to the uk he's like essentially a refugee from from libya refugees

00:59:56.980 sometimes commit horrific things if you bring people from you know the horn of africa or afghanistan

01:00:02.360 or whatever it's very likely that a lot of them are going to at least sympathize with uh islamism

01:00:07.060 um and uh yeah so moving on in the past week demonstrators have gathered in epping to protest

01:00:14.580 outside a hotel which houses asylum seekers including a man charged with sexual assault

01:00:18.420 protesters chanted send them home and save our kids mr farage warned of civil disobedience civil

01:00:23.480 disobedience on a vast scale on july 23rd protesters assembled for a second night outside an empty hotel

01:00:29.480 in london following false claims that asylum seekers from epping had been moved there i mean it was just an

01:00:35.240 elite just a different set of illegal immigrants same yeah just coincidentally the day after they'd

01:00:43.860 been moved out of the hotel in epping i mean you know i don't know i think uh i think you know asylum

01:00:48.620 seekers were definitely moved there if they're from epping or not and they're not asylum seekers from

01:00:52.480 epping nobody's seeking asylum from epping yet you know i mean they're from somalia ethiopia wherever

01:00:58.800 the people have come across on boats because they want to work for deliveroo well in fact the people

01:01:03.840 a lot of people in epping are you could say sort of fleeing themselves right they fled to epping

01:01:11.120 from the center of london exactly yeah the white flight i mean this is a lot of the the british

01:01:16.760 property market is just based on you know people wanting to live around yeah other native brits or

01:01:23.580 other you know people who have british values something that like everyone before 1946 was just

01:01:29.800 allowed to do yeah without without being called yeah an evil racist without the entire apparatus of

01:01:36.080 the state yeah and down on you the article goes on to uh to to refer to to criticize Tory MPs for

01:01:44.320 referring to two-tier policing and two-tier justice uh which implies that white people are treated more

01:01:48.800 harshly than others but there is open two-tier justice i mean we can openly see it yeah it's mental

01:01:54.040 and it's not just it's not just in the last year going back decades with the grooming gangs

01:01:59.000 with the establishment you know fearful of any of any uh you know uprising if they tell the truth

01:02:04.820 if people find out about it they instead try and keep the lid on it they're so worried about

01:02:08.740 community community cohesion if community cohesion is such a concern why are you bringing in people from

01:02:14.620 far off really alien cultures and dumping them on cohesive communities like these places epping was

01:02:22.800 already a cohesive community yeah it doesn't it doesn't it's not going to be improved by you know

01:02:28.200 dumping hotels full of migrants and we're going to see we're going to see the country balkanize and

01:02:32.280 splinter because i mean there's there's left-wing uh areas where people are oh my god we need more

01:02:37.760 migrants and stuff and i think it's absolutely essential that we place the migrants in those areas

01:02:43.140 because at the moment a lot of the you know the lib dem areas the green party areas are quite uh

01:02:48.020 quite leafy quite nice well-to-do boroughs so they're not living up against the the issues that

01:02:55.620 they're creating with their opinions well you see how the boris wave impacted public opinion in that

01:03:01.500 regard because the boris wave was so huge so seismic and and was smuggled in whilst we were all

01:03:08.300 locked in our own homes yeah yeah so when people came out again they went hang on my area looks

01:03:13.060 really different now yeah and all of a sudden no no it's matching no it's matching the adverts

01:03:17.520 and then be began to hate the two-tier policing two-tier justice two-tier reporting yeah it's been

01:03:24.020 going on for many a year though you might not remember this you might be a bit young but yeah

01:03:28.400 i'm sure you remember you remember damalola taylor yeah if anyone who doesn't remember or isn't british

01:03:33.500 there's this little black african boy that was stabbed to death tragically in a stairwell somewhere in

01:03:38.120 london yeah and no one knew who did it for quite a few years and they thought it was another

01:03:41.920 stephen lawrence they assumed it would be a white person that killed this kid and so it's like a

01:03:47.000 big deal and then eventually a few years later they found out it was another black boy there

01:03:51.840 wasn't much old wasn't much older and then never hear from it again but damalola taylor was being

01:03:57.800 hammered with it damalola taylor damalola taylor and then nothing yeah because stephen lawrence i

01:04:02.440 mean that and the mcpherson report that came out there's an inquiry afterwards that uncovered you know

01:04:07.000 systemic racism in the police and all the public services and stuff and that had such a long-term

01:04:12.540 impact on policing and all the i mean all this stuff that's happening in rotherham was you know

01:04:17.820 partly because of that massive overreaction where people were so fearful of appearing racist or being

01:04:25.060 called racist that they'd rather let girls be raped and killed than you know than than suffer it's

01:04:31.660 it's a sick society yeah it's a sickness yeah it's diseased it's corrupt yeah and i think part of

01:04:38.660 the reason you know the the grooming gangs part of the reason it it took britain such a long time to

01:04:44.280 sort of confront it is because we know that we failed those girls it's not just that you know we

01:04:50.700 brought in mere poor valley uh clans that you know have deeply different attitudes to us and dropped us on

01:04:58.760 these uh on these post-industrial towns uh it's because society because we went through this

01:05:04.200 sort of neoliberal uh change was really good for for a lot of people you know if you're a working

01:05:08.240 class person with you know gumption whatever you can get out move to london get a good job whatever

01:05:13.920 it is but you know it completely disrupted these communities and the natural protectors who who would

01:05:19.360 have been in rotherham to to protect these girls you know the families that would have stayed together

01:05:23.280 the church the community and all that sort of stuff had all disintegrated and just left these girls at

01:05:28.700 the mercy of the state and at the mercy of whoever wanted to pray on them we know that you know

01:05:33.080 britain failed those girls it wasn't just that they were prayed on apologies leo just for the sake of

01:05:38.700 oh yeah sorry yeah that's me yeah towards the end but yeah do you do read all the rumble rants though

01:05:44.320 because otherwise people get a bit pissed off no i i understand take your time because my segment is

01:05:50.340 no yeah okay yeah i was going to thank you samson yeah all right then no no if you want to um

01:05:57.720 say what i was just saying but no i mean that that's pretty much it i just i just wrap up by saying you

01:06:03.460 know like they've there's so many things that they missed like they don't mention any over

01:06:07.460 representation of uh foreign nationals i think this is and also we've got no moral obligation to take

01:06:13.000 refugees they're not fleeing persecution they're fleeing france i mean all right there's some dog shit on the

01:06:17.160 pavement but it's not that bad you know i mean the waiters aren't that friendly but you can deal with

01:06:21.280 it genuine refugees should take refuge in you know the nearest most culturally similar country so if

01:06:27.300 you're fleeing you know we i think ukrainians absolutely they're they're culturally very similar

01:06:33.660 i've worked with them on building sites you know hard-working guys like yeah like absolutely fine with

01:06:40.260 them them coming here people coming from afghanistan people coming from the horn of africa that's a

01:06:45.600 different question i think if you're fleeing somalia you're going to be better off in uh well

01:06:51.080 probably just in somalia like you know go go somewhere nearby that's culturally similar and then

01:06:57.380 return home when it's safe you certainly don't need to flee france yeah no i mean they use a touch too

01:07:03.200 much butter and garlic in a lot of their cooking that's about like that's about it really yeah and it's

01:07:08.300 it's better for the for the refugees as well but it's blatantly obvious that our asylum system has just

01:07:13.000 been gamed by people who want to come here and earn a thousand pound a week tax-free working for

01:07:17.220 deliveroo indeed which i'll probably be doing soon

01:07:19.980 all right um for 20 dollars thank you uh scotts uh sciguy says never forget axel rudicabana was in

01:07:29.820 the bbc doctor who skit for children's in need that really makes me reach for my tinfoil hat and just

01:07:36.940 some cash for the unemployed funny leo thanks man so um yeah this is you're gonna go big on the

01:07:45.140 street after this aren't you i've got a patreon i've got a patreon i do advanced cyber begging but

01:07:50.820 essentially still the scottish tradition of the alcoholic aggressive begging but yeah i do i do

01:07:56.260 lots of content on my patreon and my youtube channel so yeah subscribe yeah do subscribe do indeed

01:08:02.080 uh uh shimo 20 says i would say uh things that go against life is the political side and that

01:08:10.880 which promotes life is the religious side well i mean i'm not a particular religious man but i would

01:08:17.160 like to promote life you know these days seems um to be a lot of uh a lot of nihilism out there

01:08:22.940 uh logan 17 pines says in the soviet union the newspaper truth had no truth and newspaper news had no

01:08:29.720 news which is very very true um you've got uh opunk says trigonometry actually had a victim of the

01:08:37.680 grooming gangs on yesterday she got locked up for inciting sexual activity sounds absolutely twisted

01:08:45.800 and i'll uh i'll probably check that out thank you uh engage few says um guilty pleas and nothing but

01:08:52.340 a fig leaf for the state uh make them be tyrants in their own damn name yeah yeah um and then once

01:08:59.500 again engage few it'd be hilarious if the protesters started blaring slayer's cover of guilty of being

01:09:05.840 white and ever i don't actually know that song but uh i'll i'll open spotify after how about that

01:09:11.980 all right then bo picture's yours okay so i thought we'll end today's podcast with uh you know a bit of a

01:09:20.480 throwaway silly segment a joke segment women's football um so a couple of talking points i think

01:09:28.640 first of all the good things the positive things because i'm not i'm not completely insane i'm not

01:09:33.420 actually a misogynist good on them if anything good on them we're not convinced no good on them

01:09:40.860 but i do have a few concerns about the liar that uh the actual quality or the level of skill

01:09:49.100 is of any note so okay first things to say um they won the tournament so well done cool good yeah

01:09:56.620 yeah that's good even if you don't really pay any attention it's a small uptick in sort of

01:10:00.660 national pride or whatever you want to say so winnings always good and it also shows that british

01:10:05.440 investment in sport and stuff like that is is working we seem to be doing better when i say we

01:10:11.760 talking about england obviously but we seem to be doing why don't we have a british team by the way

01:10:16.960 like i don't know scottish people would get to play in it but why don't we have a british team

01:10:21.100 at the moment we've got a scottish team but it doesn't even qualify so you know like if there

01:10:25.220 was an olympics and there's a team gp football squad yeah yeah for the world for the world cup

01:10:30.960 and the euros and stuff like that all right uh yeah i think what it would do for national unity

01:10:35.100 like people with irish accents scottish accents welsh accents and english accents back in the 90s

01:10:42.640 there's always the joke that the gb team would simply be the england team but with ryan giggs

01:10:47.560 yeah that's all it would still just be the england team essentially um as a scottsman you might have

01:10:52.240 something to say about that but um entirely accurate um so one good thing that came out of it uh one of

01:10:59.900 or two of the lasses afterwards um came out with both basically like an ethnic statement saying like

01:11:05.520 english blood yeah is like the good stuff that's the good stuff they said something like i'm paraphrasing

01:11:10.200 do you mean values they didn't use the word values i think she said did she actually say blood she did

01:11:17.820 she said blood yeah she said something that if you said it outside a migrant hotel through a megaphone

01:11:22.640 you would go to jail you would go to jail but instead you know kirk starmer's all like yeah

01:11:26.800 english blood yeah you can't you know although i mean what is english blood because i mean there's

01:11:34.000 people in the team who probably can't trace their lineage back to salisbury in the 12th century right

01:11:38.160 there are one or two in there yeah well you can imagine ash sarker saying yeah go lionesses wait

01:11:43.080 english blood wait i'm not on board with that bit you are that bit out i saw her react to that i can

01:11:48.020 only assume that that lady who used the expression english blood was working training so hard that she

01:11:53.920 simply didn't realize that that's an illegal opinion these days yeah she's not up to scratch

01:11:59.400 the new rule no she needs to subscribe to the lotus eaters okay it's all over the news it's in the

01:12:06.620 news cycle um so if you click through a few just those few links just to show that it's in the news

01:12:11.200 cycle everyone's really excited about it um uh keep going there's even sort of a live feed of watching

01:12:20.020 them watching them come home um yeah okay so um the thing is though that we're told that it's that

01:12:31.740 it's good entertainment that it's good football if you remember perhaps uh that megan rapinoe do

01:12:36.980 remember her american yes lady right complaining why they're not paid the same as the men and stuff

01:12:42.620 yeah well the football's crap i mean here's the here's the brutal truth the unvarnished truth

01:12:49.900 yeah is that it's not good football now and also it's like rafael nadal was asked at a conference

01:12:57.080 as he's a male tennis player he he was asked you know what what about female tennis players getting

01:13:01.660 paid less than than the men and he said well what about males in fashion getting paid less than the

01:13:09.220 women yeah right yeah the world isn't fair that way yeah yeah um and the men get paid a grotesque

01:13:16.100 amount of money anyway it's blown out of all proportion these days anyway so um no it comes

01:13:20.220 it boils down to the fact that we're expected to accept that it's it's good entertainment it's good

01:13:27.280 football well there's a few people like nick dixon for example and myself on twitter every now and again

01:13:31.800 will mention like he's he's shit though i mean i don't want to be too out of order i don't want

01:13:38.680 to be too out of order but it isn't good football and you get the pushback saying you haven't watched

01:13:43.320 it or you're just a misogynist or you're an incel or whatever it is i can see i've watched thousands

01:13:50.280 of hours of football i'd say you're not just a misogynist you're a misogynist and lots of other

01:13:54.180 things oh yeah right yeah yeah yeah loads of other things historian of misogyny yeah nearly a

01:13:59.820 misogynist please please what an insult the history of misogyny by bb days so the thing is i'll say is

01:14:07.580 that i've i've played loads and loads of football in my time i was one of those boys that was football

01:14:12.740 mad yeah right from year seven to year 11 it was nothing but football played loads and loads of

01:14:18.460 football in my time play saturday league football played tons of five a side um watched an insane

01:14:23.460 amount of football in my time had a season ticket at west ham been to loads of away games been all

01:14:27.820 over the country on away games um just i'm not into it so much as i've got as i've gotten into

01:14:33.460 my 30s and 40s but watched tons and tons of football i'm a referee i'm an official fa third class county

01:14:38.480 referee i uh when i was like 17 odd i i did the little course and sat the little little exam you

01:14:44.120 have to do so i've reffed loads of games as well loads of 11 a side games and loads of five side games so

01:14:49.720 i know a bit about football yeah okay um in fact one of my highlights of my time at lotus eaters was

01:14:56.020 i sat down with the living legend mr matthew letizia southampton and england legend well truly one of the

01:15:03.700 most skillful players ever to have played football uh statistically one of if not the greatest penalty

01:15:10.280 taker of all time i sat down with him check it out um i think it's free actually because it was

01:15:16.280 an interview so you don't even have to be a subscriber i interviewed gb news funnily enough

01:15:20.840 about a great bloke about vaccine stuff but you know what what annoyed me so like obviously gb news

01:15:25.500 is regulated by offcom so you got to like push back and provide balance and then all these viewers

01:15:30.400 were like being like why is leo so pro vaccine blah blah blah why is he not and it's like no by

01:15:34.960 platforming matt letizia i'm getting his his views out there you know what i mean i've got to push

01:15:39.800 back and also when you interrogate an idea it actually strengthens that idea but anyway just

01:15:43.340 you know just saying i only mentioned this not just to blow my own trumpet that i sat down with

01:15:47.260 matt letiz um but i sat there for like an hour and 40 odd minutes and was able to hang with him

01:15:52.440 comfortably yeah talking about football yeah going back to the 80s and 90s yeah so i just say that say

01:15:58.360 i know a little bit about football because if anyone's out there saying i'm just dunking on the

01:16:01.440 women and i don't know what i'm talking about well i do i do know what i'm talking about okay and i'm

01:16:07.320 dunking on the women yes and um um so the thing is once once you know football and you've watched

01:16:14.180 enough football honestly like thousands of hours it must be over my lifetime um you can sort of see

01:16:19.380 the physicality if you watch someone dribble with the ball you watch how they control it you watch

01:16:23.920 their touch their deafness of touch you can see if anyone's good at football or not yeah and they're

01:16:30.260 not these women and they're supposed to be the best among the best teams in the world it's the

01:16:34.160 european cup final spain and england are certainly among if not the best teams

01:16:38.920 and they're they're not they're not any good it's a bit embarrassing it's a bit of a joke

01:16:43.900 for a number of reasons okay so there's the strength power and aggression thing that's sort of okay women

01:16:50.380 are less strong less fast and less aggressive than men it's fine that's not a problem but the skill

01:16:55.760 isn't there the vision isn't there the movement off the ball is to be kind minimal so it's not good

01:17:04.260 football don't tell me it's good football yeah i don't begrudge them to play it that's fine i don't

01:17:08.700 begrudge under 13s playing football right i don't begrudge the guys that are kind of crap over hackney

01:17:13.700 marshes on sunday playing football but don't tell me it's good football yeah it's not you know what i

01:17:18.000 really want actually you know how uh joey barton was getting in a load of um getting a load of stick for

01:17:23.900 saying like you know uh female pundits we're ruining the men's game i want you to be a pundit

01:17:29.160 for women's football like with them on the panel and ruin the women's game i would just be sighing

01:17:34.720 the whole time that's what it's like when i watch i watch the final and i watch a couple of other

01:17:38.180 games um i've watched some women games a fair few women's games before i used to go out with a girl

01:17:41.980 who played women's football i've went and watched women's games in real life like non-league

01:17:46.460 non-professional you're an ally um you know i've watched i've been to i've watched i've been out to

01:17:51.620 late and orient games on a rainy wednesday i've been and watched dagnum and redbridge a load of

01:17:55.660 times right i've what okay so the thing is you watch it and um in a real game say a premier league

01:18:01.440 game right if someone does something a bit crap it'll only happen a handful of times in the whole

01:18:05.100 game they punt it downfield to nobody yeah everyone sires or boos or most people just like

01:18:09.620 like that i'm literally like oh he likes it one guy accidentally passed it to the other team when he

01:18:15.620 didn't mean to or stands on the ball and falls over something you're like oh like that that's the

01:18:19.980 whole game when you're watching the women's game that's the whole game you're like

01:18:23.560 like that it is it is poor for example there'll be a um there's a throw-in right and in a proper

01:18:33.100 game of football you go on two or three different choices and they're running around trying to make

01:18:37.360 a bit of space to give the person throwing the ball in an option yeah they're not doing it just

01:18:41.420 standing there yeah right someone someone in midfield looking for looking for someone to make a bit of

01:18:46.920 space to make a run to make an incisive run they're not doing it there's no real there's minimal

01:18:51.620 movement off the ball yeah there's no there's no vision there's no sort of there's no dying it's

01:18:56.740 not dynamic yeah it's not dynamic football in any way it's quite revealing with women's sports when

01:19:02.100 they're like trans women want to come in and play against us and that's bad and it's like well

01:19:07.820 like that sort of shows that men are because i mean it's not like it's not like wayne rooney it's not

01:19:13.700 like david beckham is keeping his sarong on and saying that he's he's trans you know these aren't

01:19:18.440 the elite athletes this is just blokes this is just women like me you know what i mean or like i could

01:19:23.320 i can get in the women's football squad you know and uh so it sort of shows that you know like if

01:19:30.600 just your your average you know lumpy trans can can sort of outclass

01:19:34.780 yeah like things like um having a a decent shot where it's like an exocet where it's like 25 yards

01:19:44.820 out and the ball still rising as it goes in yeah yeah it's not it's not there they can't do it like a

01:19:50.120 ping a ball 60 yards across the pitch it doesn't happen you don't see it and the the skill the actual

01:19:56.420 skill in good football you'll see someone sort of um dropping the shoulder selling someone the

01:20:02.060 wrong way doing a little shimmy doing a step over doing a back flick all sorts of skill you know when

01:20:06.980 you get a great winger a truly great winger someone like steve mcmahon perhaps brings to mind or

01:20:11.980 rob n or something they do they sell someone the wrong way and and do something dynamic right get the

01:20:19.360 game moving there was nothing in the game last night i didn't see one not one piece of skill done

01:20:25.140 right sort of tricksy bit of footwork not one in the whole game and i bet you were looking

01:20:30.260 i was just wait i'm waiting for it i'm waiting for it it's not it's not there but is it better

01:20:34.680 in terms of like uh because you know the darts they have like women walking on at least they

01:20:39.380 used to before feminists got it banned they used to have like attractive women walk on with the

01:20:42.920 scores yeah or grid girls in formula one grid girls so women's football sort of combines

01:20:47.860 the two things like the the grid girls are driving the cars the walk-on girls are playing the darts

01:20:54.860 at west ham they used to have like basically cheerleaders yeah then they got rid of them

01:21:00.060 at a certain point yeah because but the thing that's surprising to me is that women are they

01:21:05.960 are capable in other words it's not outside the realms of physics yeah women in other sports are

01:21:11.760 incredibly good talk about women's tennis in terms of skill yeah women's tennis is extremely good

01:21:16.860 yeah and if when you watch the olympics there's all sorts of disciplines where the women are just as

01:21:21.480 good as the men or very very nearly do you think with tennis it's because it's it's a bit like a

01:21:25.700 saucepan is that yeah i think that's that must be it that must be it yeah

01:21:31.220 um so like in um say like even 100 meters sprinting the women are marginally slower than the men yeah

01:21:40.060 very marginal so it's surprising to me why um in football or even in nba it's a cliche almost to the

01:21:46.540 point of cliche isn't it that women's and women's basketball they're a long way off it's a chasm

01:21:52.300 yeah i'd have thought sprinting would be a like a huge gap yeah but it's so muscular and yeah but

01:21:57.520 not so much right yeah it's a fraction of a second the women are slower um and as i say in all sorts of

01:22:02.800 disciplines when you watch the olympics the women are almost very almost much as good as the men

01:22:06.660 and i imagine in some it's possible they're better than men yeah it's totally possible but in football

01:22:12.280 for some reason there is still a big gulf but they try and tell you there isn't yeah they try

01:22:17.640 and say like megan megan rapinoe that they should get paid the same as the men um that it's as good

01:22:24.460 as men's football but it's not yeah don't try and sell me that like it's like when a toddler comes home

01:22:29.680 from play school and they've done a painting it's finger paints it's not even stick men and you say oh

01:22:35.300 that's great that's well done and nan puts it on the fridge with a magnet yeah okay that's all well

01:22:39.740 i'm good i'd be insane to stop that but don't try and tell me it's a caravaggio right don't because

01:22:48.000 it's not yeah because it's not um i wonder if it's something to do with uh like spatial awareness and

01:22:54.000 stuff because like my wife very intelligent like very good at like a lot of things but when she loads

01:23:01.320 a dishwasher i mean you'd think it's her first time encountering three-dimensional space it's like

01:23:06.780 there's stuff sticking up blocking the bit that spins around there's stuff like that way up so it

01:23:11.400 collects the water it's there's everything's just higgledy-piggledy there's no tessellation

01:23:17.460 not doing it properly yeah yeah yeah well just with the football i don't i'll i won't label the

01:23:25.120 point too much but once again even over hackney marshes on on a sunday or watching dagenham and

01:23:32.260 redbridge play they're better yeah they're better and it's just the unvarnished truth yeah me and

01:23:38.960 half a dozen of my mates are better at football than some of those women in that european cup final

01:23:44.600 i'm serious i'm serious um so this is the that somebody's got to test that out i hope hopefully

01:23:53.220 they're celebrating their win by watching lotus eaters they're going to challenge you to i would

01:23:59.080 love to play a game of wembley singles or wembley doubles against some of these women

01:24:02.280 and i'm like old i'm like i'm 43 with no cardio but i am more skillful and more powerful than than

01:24:11.220 those women right yeah and i'm and i'm crap i never made it anywhere near like i played sunday league

01:24:16.560 football right i never made it anywhere near even um non-league football yeah yeah right but i've got a

01:24:23.040 couple of mates who also never made it anywhere near that are significantly better than me and they

01:24:28.920 would run rings around these women um so well the proof is in when you do get women playing men and

01:24:36.280 it's happened a number of times in recent years even with like under 15 teams the male under 15 team

01:24:41.500 will like absolutely trounce so recently there was the swiss again international team played an under

01:24:48.900 15s side and lost like 5-0 i think or 7-0 or something a number of times there's the u.s women's

01:24:54.700 team a number of times have played some boys and got smashed like 9-0 or whatever 15-0 one time there

01:25:01.680 was a professional women's team played i think it was the u.s international team that at the time was

01:25:07.680 one of the best in the world or the best in the world and they played i think it was seventh side and

01:25:11.020 they played a retired team of wrexham players so wrexham not the greatest club in the world and they

01:25:18.620 were retired players guys in their 40s and 50s with beer guts and you could tell they were playing

01:25:23.980 at like 40 percent they were they were walking around right pinging it to each other every now

01:25:28.820 and again just having a shot and it'd go in and they won i think they won like seven nil seven one

01:25:33.000 nine nil something like that something like that well they stopped the game at half time i've seen

01:25:36.180 that happen as well because it's so embarrassing yeah yeah yeah so all right well we'll leave it there

01:25:41.960 but um the point is well done girls but yeah well done yeah yeah well done well well done for getting

01:25:49.180 some of those far right talking points into the mainstream yeah yeah i was struggling for a segment

01:25:54.340 this morning so thanks thanks thanks for giving me that one yeah um all right okay okay uh i'll just

01:26:00.960 read through some of your rumble rants bo uh says uh that's a random same uh random name says i can

01:26:06.980 never properly enjoy men's football because neither team is ever able to pick uh momentum because they

01:26:12.780 keep falling and pretending to get hurt true yeah there was a little bit of that when you look back

01:26:19.020 at um you look at a game from the 70s watch an old game with uh with uh like bobby moore in it or

01:26:24.440 something or george best they're smashing each other to bits oh really they're trying to break his

01:26:28.880 legs and the ref and the ref's just like yeah play on keep going right yeah it's got a bit more

01:26:32.980 pansy these days i must admit in fact in the women's game last night it was ridiculous they

01:26:37.880 were giving fouls away and giving yellow cards out for nothing for nothing yeah anyway uh and

01:26:45.500 habsification says the north uh the national league north and south is the sixth tier of english football

01:26:51.860 and there's the first level of semi-professional football the women's level is far below even that

01:26:58.040 is this true it's true it's true it's true all right there's there's more on there there are

01:27:04.280 there are um uh sorry scott's side guy says if i'm not wrong the male uh u15 teams of usa australia

01:27:14.420 and switzerland have all beaten the women's national squads wow and thrashed them though yeah yeah yeah

01:27:20.860 like like like they barely get a tackle in the women jeez like yeah yeah they don't have a tackle do

01:27:28.040 they anyway let's uh go to the video comments then papa mama my uk student visa was approved

01:27:38.920 oh my god it is just like india here

01:27:46.300 you get a free flat you get british citizenship you get lots of money

01:27:59.240 oh my god i've seen a few of these these are man these ai videos like there's more satire

01:28:07.820 happening from these ai videos than there is like the entire mainstream media that's something we

01:28:13.600 talked about mal and stalin earlier people that have lived through that or any sort of oppressive

01:28:17.380 regime sort of tito or there's been loads of examples of them they can't stop satire yeah even

01:28:23.640 that they're very worst yeah even the darkest days of stalin's repression people still took the piss

01:28:29.580 yeah yeah and joked and did said satirical things tongue-in-cheek things yeah you can't stop that you

01:28:35.860 cannot yeah in response to carl's i hate pedo pascal why doesn't pedo pascal due to bella ramsey what

01:28:46.660 he does to vanessa kirby because hashtag me too is a movement of ugly women upset because beautiful

01:28:53.280 women can move up based on their sexuality no one cared that harvey weinstein was getting his quid

01:28:59.220 pro quo even oprah was pimping for harvey if you've seen the founder of hashtag me too

01:29:05.220 she definitely wasn't sleeping with anybody to get ahead

01:29:09.300 oh brutal yeah it's true though very attractive women do waltz through life

01:29:17.740 in a much easier way than everyone else yeah yeah yeah the real get over it

01:29:23.060 the real victims are the me too thing like it's me if i'm what i would love to suck harvey

01:29:29.400 weinstein's dick to get a hollywood career you know what i mean are you joking tens of millions

01:29:33.280 of dollars getting to be like a top actor scottish scottish victim complex i don't get i don't get

01:29:39.860 that option you know what i mean why don't i get that option it's disgraceful if i if i found myself

01:29:45.780 a beautiful woman yeah i would take advantage of nearly everyone in the world yeah making way for

01:29:51.620 me yeah why wouldn't you yeah yeah yeah and also these women who are like oh i had to suck harvey

01:29:57.080 weinstein's dick to become uh an actress like no you you could have been a waitress like you just

01:30:02.180 wanted to be an actress and also anybody can be an actress because it's easy you just you know you

01:30:06.760 just put on a hat and pretend like if you want to be a brain surgeon nobody's sucking a dick to be a

01:30:11.060 brain surgeon because that's an actual like thing you got to be good at yeah yeah yeah i i can't

01:30:16.520 remember which comedian it was but someone was saying about that with harvey weinstein everything

01:30:20.160 there's like you know um sexual favors to get roles and everything it was like if a guy did that

01:30:25.800 you know it's like oh dad you know like he wanted me to suck his dick you know for the role it's like

01:30:29.780 well son how much do you want to be batman how much do you want it that's what it boils down to

01:30:36.660 so all right next one also you can't mess with the artistic process you know what i mean like

01:30:42.640 time time tested it might it might look it might look bad but harvey weinstein knew what he was doing

01:30:48.140 so i imagine you guys have heard about that sinners movie that's been all over twitter

01:30:53.680 yeah it's your typical movie about how white people are vampires they want to suck everyone's blood

01:30:58.380 but there was an interesting element to it i didn't expect which is that the white vampires actually

01:31:03.120 look down their noses at the normal white people because essentially they view them as a bunch of

01:31:07.460 ignorant racists you know the vampires actually want to integrate with the black people because

01:31:11.420 they think it'll improve both their communities at the expense of the black people's souls of course

01:31:15.440 but um so essentially the vampires are progressive integration is white which is a very interesting

01:31:21.720 subtext to include in such a movie well uh i most likely shall never watch it but i think it's an

01:31:28.740 interesting take yeah i once saw someone um i can't remember what it was some film some tv thing

01:31:34.280 once about with vampires in it and they said why do you vampires care so much about virgin blood why are

01:31:39.320 you so fixated on virgin blood and they said well imagine someone offered you a bit of cake and then a

01:31:45.920 bit of cake that someone's just stuck their dick in what one are you gonna pick to eat and they're like

01:31:50.220 oh well good point fair enough i watched fun i've seen uh killian murphy whatever he's called uh i

01:31:58.080 watched oppenheimer or watched half of oppenheimer man it's so boring i can't really it's so boring

01:32:03.640 and also like it's so there's so many sort of liberal assumptions like it shows all the like basically

01:32:09.080 the start of the long march through the institutions where all these communists having their parties

01:32:12.720 it's not presented this malignant thing that's gonna lead to you know what we've got in america and

01:32:17.660 what we've got in the west now uh it's almost presented as if these you know these are these

01:32:21.420 are the good guys and the bad thing was the mccarthyist witch hunts man mccarthy was like

01:32:25.720 mccarthy we should be building statues to mccarthy yeah like he was the the one thing trying to stop

01:32:31.000 trying to stop you know communism overtaking the west you wrote an article about that i wrote an article

01:32:36.000 among the first ones i wrote mccarthy did nothing wrong yeah no the state department if nothing else

01:32:41.340 was riddled with card-carrying stalinists yeah yeah yeah and i watched oppenheimer i really

01:32:47.400 liked it but only because i happened to be fascinated by the story of the manhattan project

01:32:50.680 yeah but the point you make is absolutely true all these commie parties it's like no that's a

01:32:56.380 a malignant cancer inside the defense structure of and they made it out like it's just there's

01:33:02.520 nothing wrong with it is it more about the bomb thing if anything is it more about the bomb and

01:33:06.820 the actual manhattan project in the second half yeah oh right i'll watch yeah the first half is slow

01:33:10.900 yeah i'll give absolutely that's true the first half is a bit slow about his relationships and stuff

01:33:14.920 yeah i don't care yeah yeah i don't care about that yeah i want to see the army and bombs going

01:33:18.760 off in the new mexico desert yeah yeah it does get better yeah it does pick up very cool it does pick

01:33:22.900 up well uh leo thank you very much for joining us today it's been wonderful to have you on the panel

01:33:28.720 uh obviously people should go and subscribe to your youtube channel yeah you should for just two

01:33:33.860 pounds a month you can help feed yes yeah otherwise i'll have to come to england on a small boat

01:33:41.320 could you take a dinghy round to like carlisle or something and say well um i'm paying an asylum

01:33:49.580 oh all right then well we'll just do i do apologize ladies and gentlemen by the way today for my

01:33:57.820 clumsiness with the comments it's just my my shoddy timekeeping um for from my segment you've got

01:34:04.420 um uh richard uh minikandum says proof no one actually reads the legislation uh slack fake headlines

01:34:13.680 to push them through parliament it was never about children always about authoritarianism and censorship

01:34:18.820 you can't even find the real news anymore yeah this was something that i found when i was going

01:34:24.800 through the search engine today just how much of those headlines were about children

01:34:28.760 burying the actual darker details of it yeah uh kevin fox says uh the age verification systems are

01:34:36.520 pointless you can choose to scan your driving license or passport uh okay how do they know it's

01:34:42.800 your driving license or passport and not your mum or dad's uh or one you stole off a uh pedestrian as

01:34:50.500 you rode past on your e-bike so it's a good point perfectly good point and uh that texas gal says

01:34:56.420 online safety uh act sounds a lot like the patriot act for the modern era

01:35:01.500 yeah i can see the comparisons there uh from your segment leo uh sophia liv says why are these people

01:35:10.180 protesting should we ask them no let's only ask high class university graduates who've never

01:35:17.900 uh uh been anywhere near the place yeah yeah definitely and uh you've got uh first keeper orland

01:35:26.300 says rather than the pressure cooker i shall use the term oppression cooker nice yeah and uh then from

01:35:34.060 your segment though you've got uh palest son of yakub who says people will uh care about women's

01:35:41.020 association football when they can beat 15 year old boys yeah it's a harsh truth when i was a kid

01:35:48.700 growing up though we were extremely harsh with each other about who and who wasn't good at football

01:35:52.540 yeah yeah right extremely i was a kid who's like quite good but he he had a blunder and everyone calls

01:35:57.980 him shit for like a year right we all knew who was really good at football and who wasn't yeah

01:36:03.420 and there was a real them and us sort of a thing yeah and uh so you never sugar-coated if anyone was

01:36:09.100 good at football or not yeah that's how i was raised yeah that's why anyway when facts took precedence

01:36:15.420 over feelings i'd like to return to that time you know uh zesty king says the best thing about women's

01:36:22.700 football apart from the failed complications is that you could they can be unapologetically english

01:36:29.420 instead of uh recruiting foreign men and calling them english like men's football nearly all the

01:36:34.860 women on the women's team are actually english nearly all of them right but not all of them but

01:36:39.900 nearly all of them uh and then jethro evans says i was going to comment about women's football but i

01:36:45.740 realized i don't care i wonder if that segment will get really good views because it's sort of in the

01:36:53.100 in the new cycle in the zeitgeist or whether it will get no views really because people are like yeah

01:36:57.340 i i honestly don't care like pass pass we'll see we'll see how it does all right then well thank

01:37:04.540 you very much for joining us today ladies and gentlemen thank you to leo again

01:37:08.780 and uh we'll see you at 1pm tomorrow ta-ta and farewell bye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 28, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1217

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