The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1221

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus thesis for friday the 1st

00:00:12.700 of august 2025 thank god best day of the week i'm john mostelios hello everyone and today we're

00:00:18.760 going to be talking about how ireland is just getting multiculturalism right i think we can

00:00:21.960 all agree on that uh they're they're doing exactly what needs to be done and they're doing in the

00:00:26.140 right way uh we're going to be talking about the uh secret war in asia that nobody is talking about

00:00:30.860 for some reason it's like there's a war in asia and everyone's like yeah well this war will destroy

00:00:34.880 the planet oh okay that seems relevant i didn't mention that before should have should have led

00:00:41.380 with that yeah the tory party is uh collapsing around us and strangely it's peter hitchens that's

00:00:48.880 diving in front going no which is not not what i expected out of peter hitchens actually saving

00:00:56.060 them again even though i despise them yeah you can you can only take a boomer so far man yeah like

00:01:00.780 you know at the end of the day they are still committed to the things they're committed to

00:01:04.420 anyway right so let's uh let's begin by talking about multiculturalism in ireland which is going

00:01:10.520 spectacularly and the the latest stabbing in dublin has just been a model case of how to perfectly

00:01:18.260 manage the new utopia in which the irish are living it's been going great but before we do that

00:01:24.380 islander four is out go and get it shopped.lotuses.com delivery worldwide excellent excellent issue

00:01:32.120 uh this is talking about uh the fellaheen which is a concept that i'll make a separate video on

00:01:37.940 talking about actually as the people who are unburdened by civilization is that a cream or

00:01:43.500 something no it is it is the it is a term an arabic term for the peasants of egypt okay and it's these

00:01:50.240 people who are the ones when howard carter and all of the uh european archaeologists went over to the

00:01:56.020 pyramids so excavating them we're like oh great we're going to start stealing some of the stuff

00:02:00.460 you've excavated they're the people who don't care about history at all they don't see themselves on

00:02:05.340 the continuity of civilization they just live in the ruins of it so they go oh who built that

00:02:10.680 no idea why would i care nothing to do with me i'm just a peasant who works the land

00:02:15.540 reminds me of that old quote about the oak door do you remember oh what from oh yeah i do i do

00:02:21.240 remember indeed uh it's it's very much like that it's um i might my essay in there i'm particularly

00:02:26.640 proud of um i'm not going to spoil it but it the point is we have to view ourselves as bearers of

00:02:33.460 culture we bear our civilization we carry it with us and a lot of modern people nowadays don't seem to

00:02:39.780 think of themselves that way and it's a real issue but anyway i will uh tell you more about that

00:02:44.300 another time go and get it now so uh there was a stabbing in ireland uh i think we can watch this

00:02:50.040 because you don't really see anything um i guess we'll we'll decide afterwards by the youtube we're

00:02:55.860 gonna get angry about it

00:02:57.680 maybe we should play it from the beginning because he shouts

00:03:08.700 but we have another time we'll try it from here and we'll point you up get back

00:03:28.700 where we are going with is we're going with the unit right now again it is the same thing

00:03:34.940 Well, that's about the long and short of it. So, I'll just recap this, because we'll probably

00:03:51.100 have to censor that on YouTube, to be honest. YouTube's always funny about Irish police

00:03:55.700 beating random people. So anyway, as you can see, these Irish cops just walking around.

00:04:00.560 I don't know why these people are filming, and this has led to sort of conspiracy theories

00:04:04.660 about, well, why was this being presented to us? But as you can see, this chap goes up

00:04:09.880 and stabs an Irish policeman from behind, and then he ends up getting pep sprayed and beaten

00:04:17.560 on the floor, because it didn't do anything significant to him, I suppose, or at least

00:04:21.520 not immediately. The chap drags him to the floor, and then they start beating him, and

00:04:25.920 he's got his arms up. Why is this happening to me?

00:04:28.460 Also, he tried to stab him at the sides, and if that were successful, it would be fatal

00:04:37.360 if he hit it with force.

00:04:39.380 It would have been very significant.

00:04:40.980 There's always that moment where a woman tries to intervene. Did you notice that?

00:04:43.680 There is.

00:04:44.720 That would be helpful.

00:04:45.400 Yeah, for some reason, where is she? There's a lady who decided, oh no, we have to protect

00:04:51.600 this guy who's getting beaten on the floor, as if, there she is. I don't know what she thinks

00:04:57.040 she's trying to intervene for, because this guy just stabbed a cop.

00:05:00.940 Irish underdog impulse, he's like, he's on the ground, getting beaten with sticks, he

00:05:04.420 needs a hand.

00:05:05.580 Yeah, but like, the woman has to intervene, it's like, oh no, that guy who just stabbed

00:05:10.120 a cop can't get his comeuppance in the middle of the street like this. He needs help.

00:05:14.000 He's the victim. And it's like, oh god, I'm so sick of this attitude.

00:05:17.660 But yeah, he begins by yelling Allah Akbar when he attacks the cops. So, I mean, I'm going

00:05:25.600 to become a bit of a bigot and suggest that may come from a particular kind of community.

00:05:30.600 I hope you're not spreading misinformation, Carl, because I don't want any part of that.

00:05:33.660 Well, I'm not spreading misinformation. But a lot of people were like, oh, he yelled

00:05:40.760 Allah Akbar and then stabbed a cop. Therefore, he's an immigrant.

00:05:45.360 How dare you.

00:05:46.340 Yes. Anyway, so we've got the actual, the write-ups from the Irish Times here, right?

00:05:51.220 So, they tell us the Garda, Garda is an Irish word for police, has suffered multiple stab

00:05:58.200 wounds following an unprovoked knife attack. A man in his 20s is in custody following the

00:06:02.520 incident. The officer who was on routine patrol suffered the puncture wounds to his side.

00:06:06.920 He was taken to hospital with non-life-threatening injuries and is recovering well and is expecting

00:06:10.220 to be discharged. So, he's fine. Right. So, good. It wasn't anything terrible. It could

00:06:14.440 have been way worse. I mean, we saw it in Germany a few, was it last year, the year before,

00:06:20.340 where the guy knifed a guy in the throat, a knife to a police officer in the throat and

00:06:23.800 he died, obviously, horrifically. So, anyway, an incident occurred on Capel Street about 6pm,

00:06:30.220 this is in Dublin, where two Garda responded to reports of a man armed with a large blade

00:06:34.160 believed to be a kitchen knife. So, average, jolly Irishman. He is understood to be an Irish

00:06:39.820 citizen, having been born in the Republic. Well, there we go. He's an Irish citizen.

00:06:44.040 He was born in the Republic, just as Irish as anyone. It's an average Irishman that's

00:06:49.780 running around the streets with a knife, yelling Allahu Akbar.

00:06:52.720 That's what I care about, whether you've got the citizenship. And once you've got the

00:06:56.320 piece of paper, I'm like, oh, sorry, sorry to interrupt. Please carry on.

00:06:59.920 I didn't mean to call him an immigrant. I mean, you know, what?

00:07:03.300 He has papers cut. He has a piece of paper. How dare? He's got a piece of paper that says

00:07:07.900 if he stabs someone, he does it in an Irish way.

00:07:10.060 He was also born in the Republic, therefore.

00:07:12.260 Imagine he tried to stab them, then they hit him, and they say, why are you hitting me?

00:07:16.200 I was born here.

00:07:17.180 Yeah. Excuse me, sir, look at this piece of paper.

00:07:20.520 I was born here.

00:07:21.140 I've got my magic soil ticket.

00:07:24.960 That's literally the narrative they're going with on this whole thing.

00:07:28.820 There is no mention of any further information about the man in this.

00:07:33.620 He is understood to be an Irish citizen, being born in the Republic.

00:07:36.080 Well, he's just as Irish as you and me.

00:07:38.520 The assistant commissioner for the Dublin Metropolitan Region, Paul Cleary, said,

00:07:42.900 quote, assaults of this nature will never be accepted or tolerated.

00:07:46.200 Our colleague has our full, steadfast support, and a range of welfare services

00:07:49.840 will be extended to him when he feels up to it.

00:07:52.580 What a weird thing to say. Isn't that weird?

00:07:56.860 That is bizarre.

00:07:58.320 Assaults on the police will never be tolerated.

00:08:00.460 Well, no kidding?

00:08:02.480 Was there a group of people on one side who were like,

00:08:05.000 well, I mean, you're not going to do anything about it, right?

00:08:06.820 Like, did that woman who came over to try and stop them,

00:08:09.200 was she like, well, I mean, you're not going to do anything.

00:08:11.940 And they were like, no, sorry, we are not going to do it.

00:08:14.380 Obviously, you can't just assault the police and expect to get away with it.

00:08:17.100 That's the stage right, isn't it?

00:08:18.420 Let's be clear, this will never be acceptable or tolerated,

00:08:21.020 because so much else has been.

00:08:22.440 We will accept you coming off a boat and just, you know,

00:08:25.000 committing all sorts of crimes, but we will not accept this.

00:08:27.200 This is a line for me.

00:08:28.980 But I love the way that the regional director is acting.

00:08:34.800 Like, people think, well, I mean, he's not going to side with the police, is he?

00:08:38.280 He's like, no, no, we are.

00:08:39.320 We are, in this case, we are.

00:08:41.300 We're going to give him the full range of services,

00:08:44.380 welfare services that will be extended to him.

00:08:46.480 As if he were a normal man.

00:08:48.220 But now we've got a range of welfare services that we're going to extend to him.

00:08:51.700 So with the smothering den mother state that's coming down,

00:08:55.240 and I can only assume that the reason they're acting this way is because the guy

00:08:59.100 is an Irish citizen, rather than being an Irishman, right?

00:09:05.080 So the Minister for Justice, Jim O'Callaghan, said he'd been briefed about the appalling attack.

00:09:09.740 My thoughts are with the Garda, as if the police don't have the job to do this.

00:09:14.700 I wish him before recovery, obviously.

00:09:16.540 Attacks on our Garda are unacceptable and will never be tolerated.

00:09:19.960 Why are you saying this?

00:09:22.160 Why do you keep saying that?

00:09:23.700 That's such a weird thing.

00:09:24.760 The Deputy Prime Minister, Sam Harris, said,

00:09:27.220 there must be zero tolerance for such appalling acts of violence.

00:09:30.560 Why are we using the word tolerance so much?

00:09:33.700 What is the word tolerance coming up repeatedly in these statements for?

00:09:37.560 It is weird.

00:09:38.420 I think you said Sam Harris, but it's Simon Harris.

00:09:40.420 I was thinking, if it's Sam Harris, I'm not sure.

00:09:42.480 I meant to say Simon Harris.

00:09:44.160 Just the idea of a really boring liberal, if your Prime Minister lecturing you on atheism.

00:09:48.320 Yes, that's the Irish government.

00:09:49.860 Correct.

00:09:50.200 Makes sense.

00:09:51.080 But Sinn Féinlein and Mary Lou Macdonald said,

00:09:54.120 there must be zero tolerance for such disgraceful behaviour.

00:09:57.380 What are we talking about?

00:09:58.280 Tolerance?

00:09:58.840 It sounds like wolf whistling or something.

00:10:00.600 It's like, you're talking about stabbing.

00:10:02.320 Yeah, exactly.

00:10:02.920 They run up and stabbed a cop and you're like,

00:10:04.460 well, we're not going to tolerate this.

00:10:05.600 I think we are going to extend the full range of our welfare.

00:10:07.620 We're cracking down.

00:10:07.880 Nobody expects you to tolerate random attacks on the police.

00:10:12.680 Why are you saying the word tolerance?

00:10:14.840 That is so weird.

00:10:16.800 Guard of Representative Association Vice President Neil Hodgkin says,

00:10:20.540 there is never ever an excuse to being exposed to such random acts of violence.

00:10:24.400 The attacks being visited upon our members is shocking

00:10:26.640 and we will never accept that being assaulted is part of our job.

00:10:31.300 You're the police.

00:10:33.360 Violence actually is part of your job

00:10:35.380 and occasionally you will be assaulted by criminals.

00:10:38.520 That actually is part of the job.

00:10:40.820 It's crazy that we constantly have to reinvent the wheel.

00:10:44.480 We discover fire.

00:10:46.600 Yeah, but...

00:10:47.320 It's almost as if there is an ideology that tries to problematise this.

00:10:50.600 Well, that's the point, isn't it?

00:10:51.840 The ideology is trying to problematise it.

00:10:53.640 Because his next sentence is, quote,

00:10:56.180 more needs to be done to create a safer working environment

00:10:59.160 where the risk of assault is reduced.

00:11:01.180 Right, yeah.

00:11:01.680 So the cult of safetyism is being applied to the police themselves.

00:11:05.760 They're actually the victims of the public, don't you know?

00:11:08.260 Right.

00:11:08.980 It's not about immigration or crazy people or stabbing people.

00:11:11.620 It's about, if I was a police officer, I shouldn't be in danger.

00:11:14.920 Yeah.

00:11:15.260 In the ways that police officers always have been

00:11:17.000 that you literally sign up for.

00:11:18.320 I'm a police officer.

00:11:19.180 I can't deal with this.

00:11:20.460 So they tolerate the things that they shouldn't tolerate,

00:11:22.240 which is unnecessary crime people brought into the country.

00:11:24.940 But they won't tolerate the one thing that they have to tolerate,

00:11:27.160 which is a certain level of risk that comes with being a police officer.

00:11:29.720 Exactly.

00:11:30.260 And so we end up in the kind of demolition man position

00:11:32.480 where the police are like, we're police officers.

00:11:34.160 We're not trained for this.

00:11:35.560 And it's just like, okay, but that's literally where they're going with the...

00:11:39.780 I mean, it's just so weird how everything about this

00:11:42.520 is so bureaucratized, ideologized, and now revolves around tolerance.

00:11:47.780 Because, of course, when they say, no, he's an Irish citizen

00:11:50.040 with an Irish passport, he was born in Ireland,

00:11:52.580 therefore, toleration is the name of the game.

00:11:55.460 You have to tolerate that these people are here,

00:11:57.900 because otherwise, well, I mean, God, you're a racist.

00:12:02.200 Can't have that.

00:12:02.920 But this we will not tolerate.

00:12:05.040 This.

00:12:05.900 And he's going to get the full range of the welfare that the state gives.

00:12:09.760 So basically, the whole point is the cult of safetyism

00:12:12.740 is very much on display here.

00:12:14.580 Everyone must be made safe.

00:12:15.960 Even the police, from the people that they have to stop,

00:12:19.660 they have to be made safe from them.

00:12:21.420 More needs to be done to create a safer working environment

00:12:23.600 where the risk of assault is reduced.

00:12:25.180 Okay, but if you're the police, what does that mean?

00:12:28.280 Right?

00:12:28.960 You're the guys who make the place safe by your presence.

00:12:32.440 So if now we need to make the society itself safe for the police...

00:12:36.240 Who's going to do it?

00:12:37.100 But moreover, what does that entail?

00:12:40.640 Like, you've got to pacify society even more

00:12:43.600 and render people even more harmless than they were.

00:12:46.460 Kitchen knife?

00:12:47.100 He was assaulted by the kitchen knife.

00:12:48.740 This is where you end up in British police territory,

00:12:50.880 where it's like, oh, yeah, we've got that butter knife off the street.

00:12:53.700 This guy came at me with this...

00:12:54.500 Amazon's the problem.

00:12:55.740 Yeah.

00:12:55.980 Selling knives and stuff.

00:12:57.460 Exactly.

00:12:58.360 Sorry, what were you going to say, Salis?

00:12:59.480 No, I was trying to understand exactly what you were saying.

00:13:02.860 Right, okay.

00:13:03.600 Because, yeah, so the cult of safetyism

00:13:07.060 now has to protect the police from the public.

00:13:09.580 And like you say, who's going to do that?

00:13:11.160 Like, what are we thinking here?

00:13:12.780 Here is where we see the hypocrisy of the government

00:13:15.720 because they are pursuing policies that are known

00:13:19.780 to increase the likelihood of crime.

00:13:23.300 And crime is also crime against citizens and police officers

00:13:27.440 who are also citizens.

00:13:29.300 So the police, the government says on the one hand

00:13:32.540 that they want to keep everyone safe

00:13:34.340 and they also want to keep even the police safe from crime.

00:13:39.200 But on the other hand, they are pursuing these policies

00:13:41.940 which are, I think, to a very large extent

00:13:44.840 imposed upon them by the EU Migration Pact.

00:13:47.660 Quite possibly.

00:13:48.260 Anyway, let's move on to misinformation

00:13:51.200 because, my goodness, there was a lot of right-wing misinformation here.

00:13:56.540 Misinformation surrounding an incident in Dublin yesterday

00:13:59.040 in which a probation guarder was attacked

00:14:02.720 has been described as concerning.

00:14:06.680 Man was stabbed.

00:14:08.000 That's a word.

00:14:09.140 Man was stabbed, but it's you spreading misinformation

00:14:13.120 that's concerning.

00:14:13.940 A man in his 20s who is an Irish citizen and born in Ireland...

00:14:18.080 Irish man from Ireland.

00:14:18.920 He's totally Irish.

00:14:19.580 Let's get that clear.

00:14:20.320 It's just a normal Irishman yelling a lot at work by

00:14:22.040 and stabbing a cop, mate.

00:14:23.800 He remains in custody after he was arrested.

00:14:26.260 So nothing to see here.

00:14:27.740 The assistant guarder commissioner

00:14:29.460 for the Dublin Metropolitan Region, Paul Cleary,

00:14:32.320 said there was a lot of misinformation

00:14:33.420 about the incident that circulated online.

00:14:35.320 Don't worry, the welfare state has got this covered.

00:14:37.520 Now the problem is you speaking about this.

00:14:40.020 We have some people with their own agenda

00:14:42.400 trying to use incidents like this to inflame situations

00:14:45.000 for their own ends.

00:14:46.500 There is very inaccurate misinformation and disinformation.

00:14:50.860 The worst type.

00:14:51.700 Both kinds.

00:14:52.260 Yeah, the combination of misinformation and disinformation.

00:14:55.180 I mean, what...

00:14:55.820 I hate these terms.

00:14:57.020 Semantically, what is actually the difference?

00:14:59.080 It's a great question.

00:14:59.960 I don't even know.

00:15:00.900 I know there's malinformation which came up,

00:15:02.460 which is true information that it's harmful,

00:15:04.160 but it's true.

00:15:05.120 But mis and dis, we need someone to get that.

00:15:07.720 It's supposed to be the case that disinformation,

00:15:10.200 I think, has to do with the intention to deceive,

00:15:12.700 whereas misinformation is just a mistake.

00:15:15.000 Isn't that malinformation?

00:15:16.240 Oh, no, it's not.

00:15:16.880 It's the intent to use true information that's harmful.

00:15:19.480 See, this is the issue.

00:15:20.920 Like, Ireland's sort of totalitarian bureaucratic state

00:15:24.180 is new and therefore lags slightly behind

00:15:26.880 the rest of the world.

00:15:27.720 Ah, misinformation is a mistake.

00:15:29.260 So sorry.

00:15:30.120 Misinformation is a mistake, according to the BBC,

00:15:32.700 and they're totally reliable.

00:15:34.340 And I suppose dis is maybe genuine.

00:15:35.920 It's where people are deliberate missing.

00:15:38.020 No, I said genuine.

00:15:38.600 Deliberate.

00:15:39.380 But anyway, this was very quickly.

00:15:41.560 And the police would always say to people

00:15:43.420 to make sure they get their information

00:15:44.680 from credible media sources.

00:15:46.520 Yeah, I mean, to be fair,

00:15:48.180 you wouldn't want people thinking this man yelling

00:15:49.680 Alain Akbar and stabbing a cop was a foreigner,

00:15:51.800 would you?

00:15:52.780 He was born in Ireland.

00:15:53.900 Exactly.

00:15:54.320 That's what I've been told.

00:15:55.380 He's as Irish as the shamrock.

00:15:56.720 He's as Irish as getting to the early stages

00:15:59.140 of a football World Cup.

00:16:00.440 He's so Irish.

00:16:01.400 Yep.

00:16:02.360 Mr. Cleary said,

00:16:03.700 it's crucial that in addition to gathering evidence

00:16:06.120 to bring the offender to justice,

00:16:07.500 we want to understand the motivation behind the attack.

00:16:11.120 Well, I mean, he yelled a lot of Akbar.

00:16:13.740 What was his real motivation, Carl?

00:16:15.440 What were his problems?

00:16:16.320 What about his childhood?

00:16:17.360 You don't know.

00:16:17.940 Probably means something different.

00:16:18.960 He may have had ADHD.

00:16:20.860 And also, maybe we should focus on restorative justice.

00:16:24.100 Maybe they should bring them into a table.

00:16:26.100 Maybe you should apologize to the police officer.

00:16:27.900 Apologize.

00:16:28.260 And also, the police apologizing for using for it.

00:16:31.700 Sorry for being in your knife's way.

00:16:33.620 That's a great point.

00:16:34.880 But we've got more of the sort of,

00:16:37.900 the thing I want everyone to notice

00:16:39.980 is the kind of officialdom

00:16:41.760 that is settling itself on this, right?

00:16:44.040 Because actually, in all fairness,

00:16:45.080 there's a fairly minor issue.

00:16:46.380 There's only a minor wound.

00:16:47.580 The guy's not, you know,

00:16:48.320 not mortally wounded or anything.

00:16:51.400 But it's the engine of officialdom

00:16:53.940 that's operating here now, right?

00:16:55.780 And so we've got the cult of safety

00:16:57.080 is no, we must do more to protect our officers.

00:16:59.240 And then they're basically

00:17:00.660 patting themselves on the back.

00:17:02.380 Every guarder going out on duty every day

00:17:04.180 is aware of the potential risks.

00:17:05.560 If you take this particular incident, for example,

00:17:07.620 the official stab-proof vest did its job.

00:17:10.540 The official stab-proof vest.

00:17:12.020 Oh, okay.

00:17:12.620 Well, then it's officialdom that is responsible.

00:17:14.020 Never get those third-party stab-proof vests.

00:17:16.180 Don't get your stab-proof vest off Amazon.

00:17:17.900 No.

00:17:18.060 That's where you get your knives.

00:17:18.960 Get the official one,

00:17:19.880 because when you get stabbed

00:17:20.820 by the people you've brought in,

00:17:22.000 the totally Irish people,

00:17:23.820 you will want the official one.

00:17:24.460 But the official stab-proof vest did its job.

00:17:26.640 Maybe they're sponsoring it.

00:17:27.900 The official sponsor of Ireland.

00:17:29.380 It doesn't matter how many guys

00:17:30.680 who say,

00:17:31.280 allow a walk by and then stab you,

00:17:32.600 we have an island.

00:17:33.880 The stab-proof vests will protect you.

00:17:35.520 They're official, right?

00:17:37.060 The responding guard,

00:17:38.300 I were able to use the equipment

00:17:39.520 made available to them

00:17:40.640 to subdue the suspect

00:17:42.080 and immediately entertain him.

00:17:43.720 And that went hand-in-hand

00:17:44.800 with their training.

00:17:45.800 The equipment works.

00:17:46.960 The equipment's perfect.

00:17:48.600 Everything's perfect.

00:17:49.600 In many ways,

00:17:50.040 this was a perfect training exercise.

00:17:52.420 Mr. Cleary said,

00:17:53.660 honestly, it's exactly that way.

00:17:55.140 Mr. Cleary said that

00:17:56.320 as soon as the call went out yesterday,

00:17:58.300 the guard-eye were on the scene quickly.

00:17:59.980 The place was swarmed with guard-eye

00:18:01.800 in less than a minute.

00:18:02.920 And that shows that guards

00:18:03.940 are active and visible around the city

00:18:05.420 and they're able to assist so quickly.

00:18:07.120 The system works.

00:18:09.140 The stab vests work.

00:18:10.600 The police are just all over the place

00:18:12.480 all the time.

00:18:13.560 Doesn't matter why we have

00:18:14.520 stabby lunatics yelling at Akbar.

00:18:16.620 That's nothing to do with it.

00:18:17.940 The police are here

00:18:18.860 and we're going to make sure

00:18:19.700 that everything's perfect.

00:18:20.620 And it's not just the system,

00:18:22.400 it's also the system's function.

00:18:24.100 And when we have multiculturalism

00:18:25.720 and rising tension,

00:18:26.820 we have the pretext

00:18:29.840 for a police state.

00:18:33.820 Exactly.

00:18:34.800 And that's precisely what they're saying.

00:18:36.960 The state is in control

00:18:39.020 of everything that's happening.

00:18:40.780 Everything went perfectly

00:18:41.840 because this is what you need

00:18:43.460 to bring about

00:18:44.180 to have multiculturalism.

00:18:46.100 Hope you had a good stabbing.

00:18:48.000 Did everything work?

00:18:48.740 It's like the good death thing,

00:18:51.820 isn't it?

00:18:52.100 Someone said,

00:18:52.780 I think it was Ashley Frawley

00:18:54.040 who said we can't offer

00:18:54.740 a good life anymore

00:18:55.380 but we can offer a good death

00:18:56.500 with assisted dying.

00:18:57.640 It's like,

00:18:57.980 how was your stabbing today?

00:18:59.500 Did the official vest work?

00:19:00.600 It did.

00:19:00.960 Thank you.

00:19:01.240 Yes, it's minor wounds.

00:19:02.200 Were there swarms of guardi?

00:19:03.500 They're so well.

00:19:04.120 Brilliant.

00:19:04.600 Incredible efficiency.

00:19:06.340 There's literally

00:19:07.340 what they're saying

00:19:08.520 and they're literally telling us,

00:19:09.660 no,

00:19:10.100 we have the best police state.

00:19:12.140 It's working.

00:19:12.780 Everything's great.

00:19:14.620 Multiculturalism

00:19:15.100 is just working perfectly in Ireland.

00:19:17.840 More vest.

00:19:19.060 But the counter argument

00:19:20.340 is 50 Cent

00:19:21.260 was shot so many times

00:19:22.600 and he is alive.

00:19:23.960 I guess.

00:19:24.800 But anyway,

00:19:25.820 I thought we'd go to

00:19:26.480 the whodunit mystery

00:19:28.020 at the end of this.

00:19:29.480 There was a man

00:19:30.200 who was charged.

00:19:31.640 Does anyone want to guess his name?

00:19:34.140 Probably Dave Jones.

00:19:36.000 No, hang on.

00:19:36.260 It's Ireland.

00:19:36.900 So he's got his

00:19:37.340 like Michael O'Leary.

00:19:38.320 Conor O'Leary or something.

00:19:39.980 Seamus.

00:19:40.320 Seamus, yeah.

00:19:41.040 Yeah, it could be something like that.

00:19:42.560 Seamus O'Hagan.

00:19:43.620 Yeah, it'd be something like that,

00:19:45.180 wouldn't it?

00:19:45.580 Yeah.

00:19:46.240 Well, it was a 23-year-old man

00:19:47.580 who appeared in court

00:19:48.320 but his name was

00:19:50.040 quote,

00:19:50.600 Abdullah Khan.

00:19:52.940 What?

00:19:53.220 This does sound Irish,

00:19:55.860 doesn't it?

00:19:56.260 Popular Irish name?

00:19:57.500 Well, I'd have to see his papers

00:19:58.680 because that's how I judge it.

00:20:00.180 Well, I checked with the Irish Times

00:20:02.180 and they said Irish citizen.

00:20:03.700 Oh, wow.

00:20:05.040 Anyway, yeah.

00:20:05.800 So Abdullah Khan decided

00:20:07.120 he was doing that for some reason.

00:20:11.140 Bizarrely though,

00:20:12.820 his address cannot be published

00:20:14.180 by order of the court.

00:20:16.400 Because normally they tell you

00:20:17.680 the region,

00:20:18.380 the location that he's come from, right?

00:20:20.120 But in this,

00:20:21.460 the judge directed

00:20:22.460 Mr. Khan's address

00:20:23.400 not to be published

00:20:24.280 and granted him

00:20:25.220 free legal aid.

00:20:27.300 So again,

00:20:27.620 this is the,

00:20:28.260 exactly said,

00:20:29.380 did you have a good stabbing?

00:20:30.680 Right?

00:20:31.180 Is it literally,

00:20:31.940 no, no, no.

00:20:32.800 Okay,

00:20:33.040 obviously the system is

00:20:34.440 now we have to,

00:20:35.440 we have to put

00:20:36.260 Mr. Khan through the courts

00:20:38.380 but we're not going to

00:20:39.480 publish his address.

00:20:40.380 I mean,

00:20:40.460 we don't want my far right

00:20:41.560 going around and protesting

00:20:42.580 his house or something.

00:20:43.440 That would be

00:20:43.860 outside of the system.

00:20:45.160 We can't have that.

00:20:46.440 And we're obviously

00:20:47.380 providing him

00:20:48.040 with free legal aid

00:20:48.880 in the same way

00:20:49.460 that for the police

00:20:50.000 we're rolling out

00:20:51.000 our welfare services now.

00:20:52.320 So everyone's had

00:20:53.140 a very nice stabbing.

00:20:54.200 The police,

00:20:54.720 the system did exactly

00:20:55.900 as it was supposed to do

00:20:56.800 in complete control

00:20:58.180 of the entire event.

00:20:59.840 And it's like,

00:21:00.560 what am I,

00:21:01.420 what am I reading here, man?

00:21:02.960 This is awful, right?

00:21:05.420 I mean,

00:21:05.620 it's a good thing

00:21:06.260 that nothing happened to them

00:21:07.680 and that in that case

00:21:08.820 it functioned.

00:21:09.420 But I agree with you.

00:21:10.820 It's the larger context here

00:21:12.420 that is the issue

00:21:13.760 that they are causing it

00:21:15.560 with their policies

00:21:16.780 and they are focused

00:21:18.360 on micromanaging it.

00:21:19.680 Exactly.

00:21:20.160 And the state has just

00:21:20.860 taken ownership

00:21:21.560 of both sides of this issue.

00:21:23.300 But like, yeah,

00:21:23.780 no, the police,

00:21:24.320 yeah, no,

00:21:24.620 we're going to do everything

00:21:25.240 we can to pretend that.

00:21:25.860 And we're going to make sure

00:21:26.920 that he's not harassed

00:21:27.760 by people online.

00:21:28.580 We don't want anyone

00:21:29.020 being racist about this.

00:21:30.800 This is, you know,

00:21:32.280 as you would expect

00:21:33.060 and the sort of thing

00:21:34.340 that you should consider

00:21:36.340 predicting in the future

00:21:38.020 which is why you want to get

00:21:39.080 your official stab pro-fest

00:21:40.640 and make sure you're

00:21:41.900 with a guard eye

00:21:42.520 every moment.

00:21:44.240 So anyway,

00:21:45.460 I just find this

00:21:46.640 to be remarkable

00:21:47.620 and it's not the incident

00:21:48.800 itself, obviously.

00:21:50.340 The incident itself

00:21:51.360 is probably something

00:21:52.880 that you can expect

00:21:53.620 on a fairly regular basis.

00:21:55.540 But it's the joined up nature

00:21:57.280 of the bureaucratic system

00:22:00.080 that has seen itself

00:22:01.660 spring into action.

00:22:03.020 Nothing's being tolerated here

00:22:04.220 apart from the presence

00:22:06.060 of Mr. Khan and stabbings.

00:22:08.840 And they've got it all in hand

00:22:10.880 and you can trust them

00:22:12.800 to make sure

00:22:13.580 that when you're stabbed

00:22:14.900 you're going to get

00:22:15.440 tremendous service

00:22:16.520 from the government.

00:22:18.040 It's a win all around really.

00:22:19.880 I'm impressed.

00:22:21.040 I'm impressed by the efficiency

00:22:22.380 of the Irish services.

00:22:23.480 They're doing alright, Ireland.

00:22:24.360 They've got that tax,

00:22:25.680 you know, tax haven money

00:22:27.300 and they're spending it

00:22:28.540 on official stab-proof vests.

00:22:30.800 I mean, they had loads

00:22:32.060 of these police around as well.

00:22:33.600 Within a minute.

00:22:34.540 They were a swarm.

00:22:35.040 They could have moving them.

00:22:36.100 The stab-proof cost.

00:22:37.240 To be fair, in London

00:22:37.660 you get a stabbing in London

00:22:39.740 you won't have anywhere

00:22:40.400 like this service.

00:22:41.080 I know.

00:22:41.600 The level of service, Carl.

00:22:42.920 I know.

00:22:43.360 Just where I live.

00:22:44.620 I'm on my own.

00:22:46.100 I've got my own

00:22:46.820 unofficial stab-proof vest.

00:22:48.480 I've got my mate.

00:22:49.440 You've got a second-rate

00:22:50.180 one off Amazon

00:22:50.840 that probably doesn't even work.

00:22:52.420 I don't have any of this.

00:22:53.700 There will come a time,

00:22:55.260 I hope it won't,

00:22:56.500 but it looks like

00:22:57.540 if this continues

00:22:58.340 there will come a time

00:22:59.260 where every TikTok video

00:23:00.700 shot outside

00:23:02.420 is going to have

00:23:02.980 a much more interesting background.

00:23:04.860 And negatively so.

00:23:07.080 But anyway, yeah,

00:23:08.220 I just found this...

00:23:09.360 Again, the event itself

00:23:10.860 wasn't very noteworthy,

00:23:12.680 but it was just

00:23:13.600 the response to it

00:23:14.920 and the efficiency

00:23:15.980 of the Irish system.

00:23:17.040 If only Sadiq Khan

00:23:18.000 could bring something like this

00:23:18.980 about in London.

00:23:20.040 Well, is he related to this guy?

00:23:21.440 Probably not.

00:23:22.440 Same name.

00:23:23.180 It's like the Asian version of Smith.

00:23:26.660 Absolutely right.

00:23:27.460 I'm so sorry.

00:23:28.100 But probably not

00:23:30.080 personally related.

00:23:30.920 That was probably

00:23:31.220 a racist question.

00:23:32.280 Almost certainly.

00:23:33.340 And I condemn

00:23:34.120 this channel

00:23:35.220 for hosting it.

00:23:36.620 I should be protected.

00:23:37.940 Condemn the guests

00:23:38.740 that we have.

00:23:39.320 I should be protected.

00:23:40.460 We need the Irish state

00:23:41.220 to come in and deal with this.

00:23:42.180 Yeah.

00:23:43.720 The engagement piece says

00:23:44.780 he would have been

00:23:45.480 a victim of a lot worse

00:23:46.800 if he'd stabbed

00:23:47.360 a cop in the US.

00:23:48.460 Well, that's the thing

00:23:49.480 about the cult

00:23:50.740 of safetyism, isn't it?

00:23:52.040 It's like not only

00:23:52.540 do the police have to be safe,

00:23:53.480 but the victims have...

00:23:54.540 Sorry, the attacker

00:23:55.420 has to be safe too.

00:23:56.300 There are so many women

00:23:57.940 like that.

00:23:58.340 What is it with women

00:23:58.960 not understanding

00:23:59.520 the nature of violence

00:24:00.340 and only understanding

00:24:01.000 it when they're

00:24:01.380 on the end of it?

00:24:02.420 Well, it's because women

00:24:03.680 don't really have much

00:24:04.640 experience of violence

00:24:05.500 when they're growing up,

00:24:06.140 I think.

00:24:07.360 Yeah, I watched the whole

00:24:07.820 video on this.

00:24:08.280 You see that guy in America

00:24:09.320 and he was about

00:24:10.420 to spark a guy out,

00:24:11.380 but his girlfriend

00:24:12.080 or wife kept trying

00:24:12.940 to get involved

00:24:13.300 and actually grabbing

00:24:14.040 his arm.

00:24:14.820 It's like you're putting

00:24:15.460 him in physical danger.

00:24:16.540 You're making it

00:24:17.320 dangerous for him now.

00:24:18.320 Yeah.

00:24:19.140 Well done.

00:24:20.360 Not Just String says,

00:24:21.320 Government's trying to

00:24:21.840 create a Frankenstein

00:24:22.680 society and bring it

00:24:23.600 to life before it

00:24:24.160 tears itself apart.

00:24:25.740 Frankenstein was the

00:24:26.540 monster.

00:24:27.500 Well, Frankenstein was

00:24:29.320 the scientist, wasn't he?

00:24:31.440 Maybe he's making

00:24:32.060 a joke about that.

00:24:32.760 Yeah.

00:24:33.160 But the point being,

00:24:34.460 though, okay, yeah,

00:24:35.140 when it's one guy,

00:24:36.560 you've got to swarm

00:24:37.060 police, but you can't

00:24:38.480 ever feel that if the

00:24:39.280 system is stress-tested

00:24:40.420 somewhat, then, you

00:24:42.020 know, maybe the

00:24:42.460 stab-proof vest won't

00:24:43.320 be as effective as they

00:24:44.800 thought.

00:24:46.140 Chris says he has an

00:24:47.080 open goal, yet he

00:24:47.740 stabbed him in the

00:24:48.280 stab-proof vest.

00:24:49.480 Clearly a very clever

00:24:50.480 engineer right there.

00:24:51.840 Well, the whole thing

00:24:52.680 has got this kind of

00:24:53.920 weird aspect of being

00:24:55.780 something like you'd

00:24:56.660 see in, like, the

00:24:57.380 British version of the

00:24:58.140 office or something.

00:24:59.320 There's a kind of,

00:25:00.140 like, um, Alan

00:25:02.100 Partridge-ness to it.

00:25:04.000 Like, when you go back

00:25:04.960 and actually look at

00:25:06.040 the, um, if I can get

00:25:07.380 the mouse, you go back

00:25:09.120 and actually look at

00:25:09.740 the thing, it's got this

00:25:10.780 kind of Alan Partridge

00:25:11.860 aspect to it, where the

00:25:13.240 guy's, like, on the

00:25:14.060 floor being like, no, no,

00:25:14.980 please don't hit me, and

00:25:16.000 they're hitting him, like,

00:25:17.100 just, they're cocking him

00:25:18.000 on the back of the head,

00:25:18.620 but on the black, on his

00:25:19.660 back.

00:25:20.220 It doesn't look like it's

00:25:20.900 that hard.

00:25:22.000 Yeah.

00:25:22.340 It's just all kind of,

00:25:23.040 like...

00:25:23.380 Reminded me of the old

00:25:24.160 Austin Powers, like, I'm

00:25:25.360 still alive down here,

00:25:26.900 very badly burned.

00:25:27.980 He was like, ow, please

00:25:29.060 stop hitting me with

00:25:29.940 sticks.

00:25:30.780 So the whole thing is

00:25:32.180 kind of comical in a

00:25:33.920 way.

00:25:34.940 I don't know.

00:25:36.840 So I'm not surprised

00:25:37.880 that, yeah, he stabs him

00:25:38.780 in the stab-proof vest and

00:25:40.140 everything goes great.

00:25:43.300 Tom says, I was worried

00:25:44.380 that we were about to be

00:25:45.040 engulfed by an evil

00:25:45.700 police state, but it

00:25:46.340 appears the police state

00:25:47.000 is occupied by puffs that

00:25:48.080 can steal the lunch, you

00:25:49.020 can steal the lunch money

00:25:49.780 off.

00:25:50.640 Yeah.

00:25:52.160 And Scott says, surely

00:25:53.680 Stelios supports the

00:25:54.520 official position that

00:25:55.420 nothing happened.

00:25:56.720 Well, I mean, that's what

00:25:58.440 they're going to do, right?

00:25:59.060 That's what they're trying

00:25:59.500 to do, is make it so that,

00:26:00.780 you know, smooth it over,

00:26:01.740 see this stabbing didn't

00:26:02.580 really happen in the end,

00:26:03.740 and we don't need to

00:26:04.320 worry about it.

00:26:05.200 Anyway, we'll leave it

00:26:05.840 there.

00:26:07.320 Sorry.

00:26:07.640 Thank you.

00:26:09.520 Right.

00:26:09.800 So, last week, the

00:26:16.620 territorial disputes

00:26:17.920 between Thailand and

00:26:19.340 Cambodia escalated into

00:26:21.480 an armed conflict with at

00:26:22.940 least 38 people dead and

00:26:25.280 hundreds of thousands of

00:26:26.580 dispossessed.

00:26:27.540 So the conflict has an

00:26:29.420 immediate as well as a more

00:26:31.180 wider context.

00:26:32.420 Yeah.

00:26:33.380 And good thing is that the

00:26:35.240 US, China, and Malaysia

00:26:37.480 pressured both sides into a

00:26:43.140 ceasefire, and hopefully it

00:26:46.520 will last.

00:26:47.900 But there does seem to be a

00:26:49.360 history of lots of rivalry

00:26:51.720 there about their border

00:26:54.020 conflicts.

00:26:54.580 But before we say more

00:26:55.540 about it, we have Islander

00:26:57.320 4.

00:26:58.100 Definitely check it out.

00:26:59.820 It's only $14.99.

00:27:01.400 We have really great

00:27:03.260 articles here, and I have

00:27:05.740 been told it's about

00:27:07.240 culture and a particular

00:27:09.340 concept called the

00:27:10.360 Fellaheen.

00:27:11.220 That is correct.

00:27:12.200 That is correct.

00:27:13.040 The people who don't

00:27:14.100 carry their culture.

00:27:15.380 Exactly.

00:27:16.020 I think the thing that

00:27:17.560 really made me click on

00:27:19.760 this was watching a

00:27:20.740 Stormzy video.

00:27:22.620 I'm not even joking,

00:27:24.040 right?

00:27:24.260 Because he's in the

00:27:25.000 middle of London doing

00:27:26.320 his rapping, and behind

00:27:27.940 him a giant neoclassical

00:27:30.320 and Gregorian buildings

00:27:31.940 and stuff like that, and

00:27:33.140 he's there rapping about

00:27:34.160 getting drugs or his

00:27:35.140 woman or something.

00:27:35.820 It's like, oh my god,

00:27:37.200 you are living in the

00:27:38.480 ruins of an empire you

00:27:39.460 don't understand and don't

00:27:40.440 care about.

00:27:41.860 Check it out.

00:27:42.480 I think he was rapping

00:27:42.960 about Jeremy Corbyn, but

00:27:44.020 other than that, you're

00:27:44.820 absolutely right.

00:27:45.860 We also have an interview

00:27:47.660 that was released on a

00:27:50.500 website with Rob

00:27:51.620 Hursov.

00:27:52.160 I interviewed him about

00:27:53.300 South Africa, farm

00:27:54.900 murders, the dire

00:27:55.820 economic situation, claims

00:27:57.720 of white genocide, and

00:27:59.180 how to reverse decline.

00:28:00.920 Right.

00:28:01.340 Let's go to the Thailand

00:28:03.420 versus Cambodia border

00:28:05.360 conflict.

00:28:05.900 Now, for some people,

00:28:07.380 geography is not a strong

00:28:08.580 card.

00:28:09.240 So the best way to start

00:28:10.360 here is by a map of Asia.

00:28:13.440 So here we see Thailand

00:28:14.760 and Cambodia are here in

00:28:17.200 Southeast Asia.

00:28:19.060 And one of the major

00:28:20.920 provinces about which

00:28:22.440 they are fighting is the

00:28:24.800 Pravihar province over

00:28:28.240 here.

00:28:28.680 Okay.

00:28:29.400 It's the best one.

00:28:30.540 And there is something

00:28:31.280 anything about these.

00:28:32.080 There is something in

00:28:33.040 there.

00:28:33.320 Here is where the rabbit

00:28:34.220 hole gets very deep.

00:28:35.940 Okay.

00:28:36.440 There's something in there.

00:28:37.800 There's a temple called

00:28:39.180 the Pravihar temple, which

00:28:41.240 is a well-preserved Hindu

00:28:42.400 temple built by the Khmer

00:28:43.860 kings.

00:28:44.480 Look at this.

00:28:45.340 This.

00:28:45.760 So they're taking care of

00:28:46.800 it.

00:28:46.960 Yeah, Khmer king sounds

00:28:48.420 like a basketball team.

00:28:49.360 Sorry, carry on.

00:28:50.160 This reminds me a lot of

00:28:51.960 the Cotswolds and the door

00:28:53.940 in the Cotswolds that was

00:28:55.620 used in Lord of the Rings.

00:28:56.880 Right.

00:28:57.220 It's really, it's really

00:28:58.320 great.

00:28:58.740 So the Pravihar temple is a

00:29:01.460 sacred Angorian site on the

00:29:02.960 border between Cambodia and

00:29:04.020 Thailand, which is dedicated

00:29:05.280 to the Hindu deity Shiva.

00:29:07.300 And here is where the rabbit

00:29:08.580 hole gets very deep.

00:29:10.320 Shiva stands for the

00:29:11.280 destroyer in the Hindu

00:29:12.400 trinity.

00:29:13.040 That's true.

00:29:13.880 So both sides want this

00:29:16.120 temple.

00:29:16.960 That's it.

00:29:18.040 So let's talk to you about

00:29:20.060 the immediate prelude.

00:29:21.800 So in late May, there was a

00:29:25.320 skirmish that lasted about

00:29:26.640 10 minutes and it led to a

00:29:29.020 Cambodian soldier dying.

00:29:30.420 Oh.

00:29:31.420 So they were firing over there.

00:29:33.600 Cambodian soldier died.

00:29:35.420 There was a conflict.

00:29:36.520 But and then there was a very

00:29:37.920 sneaky thing that Hun Sen did

00:29:41.020 to the Thai prime minister.

00:29:42.840 They were phoning each other in

00:29:44.900 June and they were talking

00:29:47.840 about the border.

00:29:49.280 Now, Hun Sen is someone who was

00:29:51.280 essentially ruling Cambodia for

00:29:53.360 40 years now.

00:29:54.420 He was the prime minister of

00:29:56.120 Cambodia from 1985 to 1993 and

00:30:00.200 then 1998 to 2023.

00:30:02.060 He started at the Khmer Rouge on the

00:30:07.160 whole pot.

00:30:07.940 Yeah.

00:30:08.320 But then they say that the

00:30:09.580 relationship changed a bit and

00:30:11.460 then he became the good guy in

00:30:13.520 some people's eyes and he ruled

00:30:15.660 Cambodia for up until 2023.

00:30:18.100 1998 to 2023.

00:30:19.440 So it's like Thatcher-esque longevity

00:30:21.380 is what I'm hearing.

00:30:22.760 It's even more, isn't it?

00:30:24.120 Yes, I'm just joking.

00:30:25.120 Probably is, yeah.

00:30:26.000 I think that was 14.

00:30:27.060 I may throw in little jokes

00:30:28.160 sometimes.

00:30:28.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:29.040 Or that's the Tony Blair of

00:30:30.600 Cambodia.

00:30:31.400 Exactly.

00:30:31.540 That's what I'm saying.

00:30:32.900 It all went south from there.

00:30:35.740 Right.

00:30:35.980 Not before.

00:30:37.000 He was a part of the Khmer Rouge,

00:30:38.360 but he was actually a good guy.

00:30:39.800 Too many human rights legislation.

00:30:41.660 Yeah.

00:30:42.020 The point is, he was not brother

00:30:43.840 number one.

00:30:44.660 Oh, right.

00:30:45.080 That's the point.

00:30:45.900 So they were talking to Thailand.

00:30:47.820 He was talking to the Thai

00:30:49.720 prime minister about the border

00:30:52.500 crisis and the dispute,

00:30:54.040 and he basically recorded it

00:30:56.020 and leaked it.

00:30:57.380 Right.

00:30:57.880 I don't know, Bernie.

00:30:59.020 Okay.

00:30:59.540 Credibility.

00:31:00.100 Who's going to talk to you

00:31:01.000 on the phone after this?

00:31:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:02.360 And the Thai people were outraged

00:31:07.460 and that led to her suspension.

00:31:09.400 Right.

00:31:10.080 So she called him uncle in this.

00:31:12.420 I checked out.

00:31:13.080 Okay, I checked out.

00:31:14.420 They say it's pretty usual

00:31:15.600 in Southeast Asia

00:31:17.040 to talk to all the people

00:31:18.820 with uncle,

00:31:19.620 but I, you know.

00:31:20.640 It's like Muslims calling

00:31:21.660 each other brother, right?

00:31:22.680 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:23.100 The first thing I thought

00:31:24.160 wasn't this,

00:31:25.540 but apparently it's Kasimir.

00:31:27.320 But that's not the issue.

00:31:29.100 So in the phone call,

00:31:31.000 Pai Tongtan Shinawatra

00:31:32.420 discusses border dispute

00:31:33.800 with former Cambodian leader

00:31:35.300 and calls him uncle.

00:31:36.780 And they say here,

00:31:37.700 come on, uncle,

00:31:39.940 stop the dispute,

00:31:40.980 stop the senseless violence.

00:31:42.940 Right.

00:31:43.200 And they say in the recording,

00:31:47.180 she can be heard criticizing

00:31:48.540 a senior Thai military commander

00:31:50.340 who she said

00:31:51.200 just wanted to look tough,

00:31:53.340 describing him as an opponent,

00:31:55.800 addressing Hun Sen as uncle.

00:31:57.720 She adds that

00:31:58.520 if there were anything

00:31:59.660 he wanted to,

00:32:00.780 just let me know,

00:32:01.860 I'll take care of it.

00:32:03.320 That's a bit suspicious.

00:32:05.320 She said afterwards

00:32:06.160 that she did it

00:32:06.940 in order to get on his good side.

00:32:09.120 Trying to be friendly.

00:32:09.760 Trying to be friendly,

00:32:11.420 but people were

00:32:12.580 very resentful about this.

00:32:14.880 That led to her suspension.

00:32:16.300 So that wasn't particularly good.

00:32:20.840 So what happened now?

00:32:21.980 I'll tell you what happened

00:32:23.240 in last week.

00:32:24.800 So it started on the 24th of July.

00:32:28.680 At some point,

00:32:29.580 border patrols met.

00:32:31.280 They started shouting at each other.

00:32:33.340 They started shooting each other.

00:32:35.940 Both sides accused each other

00:32:37.660 of firing the first shot.

00:32:39.760 And then there was

00:32:40.860 a sort of

00:32:41.780 there were several

00:32:44.960 farings from both sides.

00:32:47.020 We have the Cambodians

00:32:48.060 firing rocket launchers

00:32:52.480 and lots of civilian targets

00:32:54.780 were hit.

00:32:56.560 There were at least 14 dead

00:32:59.220 in Thailand,

00:33:02.140 civilian Thailand,

00:33:03.160 including an eight-year-old boy.

00:33:05.400 The Cambodians

00:33:06.040 hadn't released their death

00:33:08.700 up until I think

00:33:10.260 a few days ago.

00:33:12.180 But for many days

00:33:13.820 they weren't saying

00:33:14.520 how many dead

00:33:15.240 Cambodians there were.

00:33:16.820 We only had posts

00:33:18.580 from the Thai army

00:33:19.780 and the Thai side.

00:33:22.020 So all of it

00:33:23.260 bear that with a pinch of salt.

00:33:24.980 But there does seem

00:33:26.160 to be lots of firing

00:33:28.240 at civilian targets.

00:33:29.220 Here we have

00:33:30.420 a gas station being hit.

00:33:33.620 You can see here

00:33:35.180 they're firing at

00:33:39.920 essentially civilian targets.

00:33:41.520 Then the Thai

00:33:43.200 used their air force.

00:33:45.140 They hit,

00:33:46.120 as they said,

00:33:46.880 military targets.

00:33:48.040 That's all the data

00:33:49.380 we have access to,

00:33:50.500 all the reports

00:33:51.180 we have access to.

00:33:52.320 And what we saw

00:33:53.640 was that there was

00:33:54.860 essentially military

00:33:57.120 Thai supremacy there.

00:33:58.180 Now what happened

00:34:00.820 was that the Thai side

00:34:02.180 revoked,

00:34:03.360 recalled their

00:34:04.540 ambassador from Cambodia.

00:34:06.620 They also said

00:34:07.140 Thai people

00:34:07.660 from Cambodia to leave.

00:34:09.360 They said also

00:34:10.080 Thai people

00:34:10.600 who lived close

00:34:11.560 to the borders

00:34:12.080 to evacuate.

00:34:13.540 And the Cambodians

00:34:14.420 also told

00:34:15.360 several of the Cambodians

00:34:16.960 to leave.

00:34:17.920 So we are talking

00:34:19.040 about hundreds

00:34:19.840 of thousands

00:34:21.240 of dispossessed.

00:34:22.740 I've heard reports

00:34:23.500 that most conservative

00:34:25.300 reports says

00:34:26.220 100,000.

00:34:27.120 I've heard up

00:34:27.900 until 300,000.

00:34:30.200 So, yeah.

00:34:31.360 So we have here

00:34:32.140 a article

00:34:33.280 by the Independent

00:34:34.280 Thailand and Cambodia

00:34:35.280 exchange fire

00:34:36.060 for second day

00:34:36.760 as death toll

00:34:37.880 rises to 16.

00:34:39.160 That's the second day.

00:34:41.320 You see here

00:34:42.140 civilians hiding.

00:34:44.800 Right.

00:34:45.360 Yeah.

00:34:46.140 So what happened

00:34:47.100 afterwards that

00:34:48.000 the main players

00:34:49.820 US, China

00:34:51.160 Nobody care about this.

00:34:53.900 Yeah, but

00:34:54.220 it's not exactly

00:34:55.560 that nobody cared

00:34:56.320 about it.

00:34:57.200 But it's something

00:34:58.640 that it was

00:35:00.220 deliberately buried.

00:35:01.760 Oh, right.

00:35:02.180 Okay.

00:35:02.500 Why?

00:35:04.100 I don't know.

00:35:04.500 It just felt like

00:35:05.340 a good thing to say.

00:35:06.160 Okay.

00:35:07.740 I'm joking.

00:35:08.560 No, there was

00:35:10.000 significant coverage

00:35:11.880 of it.

00:35:12.200 Right.

00:35:12.600 But it seems

00:35:14.500 like

00:35:15.160 no one

00:35:16.740 wants this

00:35:17.460 conflict to

00:35:18.120 escalate

00:35:18.680 because

00:35:19.820 the US

00:35:21.240 doesn't want

00:35:21.820 this to escalate.

00:35:23.720 Also, China

00:35:24.180 is heavily

00:35:24.700 investing in

00:35:25.380 both countries.

00:35:26.400 It has heavily

00:35:27.480 invested in

00:35:28.160 Cambodia.

00:35:28.960 There have

00:35:29.820 been claims

00:35:30.900 of about a

00:35:31.700 third of

00:35:32.100 foreign investment

00:35:32.820 in Cambodia

00:35:33.440 being Chinese

00:35:34.220 and most

00:35:35.520 infrastructure

00:35:36.240 investment

00:35:37.560 being of

00:35:38.240 Chinese origin.

00:35:39.060 but also

00:35:40.720 Thailand

00:35:41.380 is a much

00:35:42.340 bigger market

00:35:43.080 and also

00:35:44.600 China wants

00:35:45.380 to have

00:35:45.880 a good

00:35:46.600 relationship

00:35:47.060 with Thailand.

00:35:48.880 Okay.

00:35:49.240 So, China

00:35:50.220 doesn't want

00:35:50.900 this to escalate.

00:35:52.040 Also, the US

00:35:53.120 doesn't want it

00:35:53.740 to escalate

00:35:54.240 and they both

00:35:55.160 called for a

00:35:55.760 ceasefire.

00:35:56.620 Malaysia said,

00:35:57.400 I'm going to have

00:35:57.920 a neutral

00:35:58.400 ground for you

00:36:00.460 to come here

00:36:01.040 and talk it out.

00:36:02.220 They went there

00:36:02.860 and they

00:36:04.280 didn't exactly

00:36:05.440 honour the

00:36:06.840 ceasefire,

00:36:07.600 but for now

00:36:08.500 it seems like

00:36:09.100 the ceasefire

00:36:09.640 is holding.

00:36:11.240 I feel bad

00:36:11.700 for Trump.

00:36:12.080 He's got to

00:36:12.360 go around

00:36:12.580 the world

00:36:12.840 saying,

00:36:13.400 can any of

00:36:13.760 you have

00:36:14.000 a ceasefire?

00:36:14.680 He's got

00:36:15.080 Ukraine,

00:36:15.960 Russia,

00:36:16.540 he's got

00:36:16.760 Palestine,

00:36:17.220 Israel.

00:36:17.500 Now he's

00:36:17.640 got,

00:36:18.220 he must be

00:36:18.640 going Thailand

00:36:19.180 and Cambodia

00:36:19.940 is everywhere

00:36:21.060 at war.

00:36:21.880 Well, don't

00:36:22.380 feel so bad

00:36:22.940 about him

00:36:23.380 because at

00:36:23.960 the end

00:36:24.280 you see

00:36:24.640 that he,

00:36:25.760 this worked

00:36:26.680 well for him.

00:36:27.420 Okay, good.

00:36:28.220 Right.

00:36:28.620 As long as

00:36:29.160 Trump wins.

00:36:29.760 So, just,

00:36:30.480 so I'm,

00:36:31.400 I'm one of

00:36:31.900 those ignorant

00:36:32.540 people who

00:36:32.940 doesn't know

00:36:33.520 anything about

00:36:34.580 Thailand and

00:36:35.140 Cambodia,

00:36:36.360 apart from

00:36:36.720 Cambodia was

00:36:37.480 ruled by a

00:36:38.400 weird genocidal

00:36:39.020 regime full of

00:36:40.020 retards.

00:36:41.020 So, yeah,

00:36:41.420 you know,

00:36:42.140 there's evil,

00:36:43.800 evil or

00:36:44.680 idiot,

00:36:45.800 and there's

00:36:46.120 Pol Pot.

00:36:46.780 Yeah.

00:36:47.260 It's just

00:36:47.620 crazy.

00:36:48.400 You're wearing

00:36:48.420 glasses,

00:36:49.180 not on my

00:36:50.080 watch,

00:36:50.440 like,

00:36:50.720 and also

00:36:51.540 that's not

00:36:51.960 it,

00:36:52.140 and that's

00:36:52.520 one of the

00:36:52.880 major issues

00:36:53.460 here is that

00:36:54.140 the Cambodians

00:36:55.220 have been

00:36:55.600 historically

00:36:56.200 unpredictable,

00:36:57.540 especially

00:36:58.420 the Pol Pot

00:36:59.180 regime.

00:37:00.040 They,

00:37:00.480 they,

00:37:00.900 they were

00:37:01.300 helped by

00:37:01.860 the Viet

00:37:02.240 Kong.

00:37:02.820 Right.

00:37:03.200 Then after

00:37:03.700 a year after

00:37:05.080 they go

00:37:05.360 power,

00:37:05.780 they started

00:37:06.220 having a

00:37:07.140 role with

00:37:07.480 them.

00:37:07.920 Because I

00:37:08.180 don't know

00:37:08.600 anything about

00:37:08.980 them,

00:37:09.620 these countries,

00:37:10.500 but I

00:37:10.660 understand that

00:37:11.080 Thailand,

00:37:11.760 I always

00:37:12.360 viewed Thailand

00:37:12.840 as a rather

00:37:13.460 civilized

00:37:14.020 country.

00:37:15.140 So,

00:37:15.780 like,

00:37:16.360 you know,

00:37:17.620 kind of

00:37:18.100 predictable.

00:37:18.940 Thailand has

00:37:19.740 a huge

00:37:20.200 history.

00:37:20.740 It spans

00:37:21.040 centuries.

00:37:22.000 It's,

00:37:22.160 I think,

00:37:22.600 4.5

00:37:23.280 centuries.

00:37:24.020 It's,

00:37:24.160 it's,

00:37:24.920 yeah,

00:37:25.200 it's,

00:37:25.460 Thai monarchy is

00:37:25.960 quite important.

00:37:27.340 In the same,

00:37:28.100 like,

00:37:28.400 I remember

00:37:28.880 reading a thing

00:37:29.260 about Thailand

00:37:29.660 and basically

00:37:30.180 they,

00:37:30.440 they view

00:37:30.820 their king

00:37:31.440 in the way

00:37:32.140 we ought to

00:37:32.700 view ours,

00:37:33.200 except ours is

00:37:33.800 terrible.

00:37:36.180 Right.

00:37:36.840 So,

00:37:37.300 this is a big

00:37:38.180 conflict and

00:37:38.840 essentially what

00:37:39.560 happened was

00:37:40.180 that the

00:37:41.400 conflict lies in

00:37:42.780 centuries of

00:37:43.420 cultural rivalry,

00:37:44.880 but also colonial

00:37:46.100 era treaties and

00:37:48.180 contested territorial

00:37:49.340 claims over the

00:37:50.260 temples on the

00:37:50.880 border.

00:37:51.120 so there was

00:37:52.340 the Cambodian

00:37:53.200 Khmer Empire

00:37:54.040 that,

00:37:55.420 whose heyday

00:37:55.860 was the

00:37:56.420 ninth,

00:37:56.980 from the

00:37:57.480 ninth to

00:37:57.880 the 15th

00:37:58.480 century,

00:37:59.040 and they

00:37:59.620 built that

00:38:00.100 temple over

00:38:00.620 there,

00:38:01.080 and then as

00:38:01.780 the empire,

00:38:02.860 the Khmer

00:38:03.200 empire declined,

00:38:04.580 we had the

00:38:05.460 Siamese Thai

00:38:06.260 kingdom of

00:38:07.320 Ai Uthaya

00:38:08.520 rising to

00:38:09.800 power and

00:38:11.180 sacking the

00:38:11.860 Khmer capital

00:38:12.440 of Angkor

00:38:13.220 in the 15th

00:38:15.320 century,

00:38:16.000 seizing western

00:38:16.660 Cambodian

00:38:17.220 territories and

00:38:18.300 adopting Khmer

00:38:19.100 cultural forms,

00:38:20.100 and then

00:38:21.140 they said

00:38:22.020 that the

00:38:23.100 area fell

00:38:24.800 under French

00:38:26.360 control,

00:38:28.280 the sphere

00:38:29.880 of influence.

00:38:30.760 The worst

00:38:30.940 thing that can

00:38:31.320 happen.

00:38:32.940 And what

00:38:33.820 happened in the

00:38:34.400 beginning of the

00:38:35.060 20th century,

00:38:35.840 there was the

00:38:36.900 Franco-Siamese

00:38:38.540 treaty.

00:38:39.340 Now,

00:38:39.540 Siam was the

00:38:40.560 name used for

00:38:41.560 Thailand at the

00:38:42.340 moment,

00:38:43.360 and the name

00:38:44.440 used for Cambodia

00:38:45.500 at the moment

00:38:45.900 was Kampukea.

00:38:47.140 That's why

00:38:47.700 Pol Pot named

00:38:49.060 his,

00:38:49.540 I think,

00:38:50.240 his regime,

00:38:51.640 the Democratic

00:38:52.180 Republic of

00:38:52.980 Kampukea.

00:38:53.920 Right.

00:38:54.560 Unless I'm

00:38:55.200 horribly mistaken.

00:38:56.520 Fuck check me

00:38:57.080 for this.

00:38:58.020 And what

00:38:58.500 happened was

00:38:59.080 that after

00:38:59.820 World War II,

00:39:00.800 in which the

00:39:01.660 Thai sided with

00:39:02.700 Japan,

00:39:04.560 the French

00:39:05.420 influence in

00:39:07.200 the region

00:39:07.680 weakened,

00:39:08.560 and the

00:39:11.540 Franco-Siamese

00:39:12.460 treaty,

00:39:13.960 which gave

00:39:15.320 the temple

00:39:16.320 and the

00:39:17.260 Praia Vihar

00:39:18.160 province

00:39:19.960 to Cambodia

00:39:20.920 was seen

00:39:22.000 as an

00:39:22.380 old

00:39:22.800 treaty,

00:39:23.760 an old

00:39:24.440 treaty that

00:39:25.120 should be

00:39:25.920 revoked by

00:39:26.580 the Thai.

00:39:27.260 Right.

00:39:27.440 So the

00:39:28.160 Thai

00:39:28.500 constantly

00:39:29.660 try to

00:39:30.240 say this

00:39:30.640 is our

00:39:31.080 land,

00:39:31.420 this is

00:39:31.680 our

00:39:31.920 stolen

00:39:32.300 land.

00:39:33.180 The

00:39:33.260 Cambodians

00:39:33.700 say this

00:39:34.120 is,

00:39:34.400 no,

00:39:34.600 this is

00:39:34.980 the

00:39:35.400 remnants

00:39:35.680 of the

00:39:36.100 Khmer

00:39:36.340 Empire,

00:39:37.040 this is

00:39:37.500 our

00:39:37.780 empire,

00:39:38.220 and what

00:39:40.020 happens is

00:39:40.580 that we

00:39:40.880 constantly have

00:39:41.840 the Cambodians

00:39:42.560 appealing to

00:39:43.660 the

00:39:43.960 International

00:39:44.500 Court of

00:39:45.380 Justice

00:39:45.840 in order

00:39:47.620 to appeal

00:39:48.600 to rule

00:39:49.340 in their

00:39:50.620 favor,

00:39:51.200 and it

00:39:51.780 does have

00:39:52.320 a history

00:39:52.720 of ruling

00:39:53.140 in their

00:39:53.520 favor,

00:39:54.260 and the

00:39:54.580 Thai want

00:39:55.440 to solve

00:39:56.260 that bilaterally

00:39:57.420 with Cambodia

00:39:58.860 because they

00:39:59.380 have a far

00:40:00.680 greater military

00:40:01.400 and economy.

00:40:02.680 So that's

00:40:03.120 exactly the

00:40:04.440 wider context

00:40:05.600 of this

00:40:06.060 conflict.

00:40:06.660 Now,

00:40:06.960 my view

00:40:07.840 is that

00:40:08.520 although the

00:40:09.680 Cambodians

00:40:10.220 are a bit

00:40:11.640 unpredictable,

00:40:13.460 I don't

00:40:14.100 think this

00:40:14.620 has the

00:40:15.200 potential of

00:40:16.260 escalating

00:40:16.920 into the

00:40:18.440 conflict that

00:40:20.960 is going to

00:40:21.400 destroy Asia,

00:40:22.540 at least for

00:40:23.240 now.

00:40:24.180 Well,

00:40:24.420 I'm glad to

00:40:24.860 hear that.

00:40:26.060 They say

00:40:26.680 for now,

00:40:27.520 what,

00:40:27.880 five,

00:40:28.300 ten years,

00:40:28.920 it's over?

00:40:30.080 We never

00:40:30.580 know,

00:40:30.960 we're

00:40:31.160 analysts.

00:40:32.580 But the

00:40:32.940 thing is,

00:40:33.880 there's been

00:40:35.280 a minor

00:40:35.580 skirmish on

00:40:36.340 the Thai-Cambodian

00:40:37.300 border,

00:40:37.600 yeah,

00:40:38.040 hundreds of

00:40:38.540 thousands

00:40:38.860 displaced.

00:40:40.060 It's like,

00:40:40.280 what?

00:40:40.760 Yeah.

00:40:41.920 But they

00:40:42.560 also had

00:40:43.120 this in

00:40:44.260 the

00:40:44.920 period,

00:40:45.500 between

00:40:45.860 2008 and

00:40:46.920 2011,

00:40:47.860 there was

00:40:48.520 also

00:40:49.020 territorial

00:40:49.880 dispute and

00:40:50.700 there were

00:40:51.000 many casualties.

00:40:52.000 So you see

00:40:52.320 here,

00:40:53.000 that was

00:40:53.340 about,

00:40:54.540 you know,

00:40:54.980 17 years

00:40:56.080 ago.

00:40:56.860 From the

00:40:57.980 Cambodian

00:40:58.680 side,

00:40:59.120 19 soldiers

00:41:00.000 killed,

00:41:00.460 three civilians

00:41:01.020 killed,

00:41:02.040 and 16

00:41:02.680 soldiers killed

00:41:03.580 from Thailand.

00:41:06.900 Has Donald

00:41:07.400 Trump threatened

00:41:07.920 to annex the

00:41:08.540 temple and

00:41:09.000 turn it into a...

00:41:10.140 No,

00:41:10.680 but he's the

00:41:11.320 president of

00:41:11.980 peace and

00:41:12.380 he's calling

00:41:12.900 for a ceasefire.

00:41:14.380 And we

00:41:14.600 have here

00:41:15.220 people saying

00:41:16.640 that he

00:41:17.400 essentially

00:41:18.120 has a

00:41:19.880 record of

00:41:20.800 average of

00:41:21.500 about one

00:41:22.500 peace deal

00:41:23.040 or ceasefire

00:41:23.600 per month

00:41:24.180 during his

00:41:25.100 six months

00:41:25.680 of office.

00:41:26.700 It's well

00:41:27.060 past

00:41:27.500 done that

00:41:28.200 President

00:41:28.580 Trump was

00:41:29.440 awarded the

00:41:30.040 Nobel Peace

00:41:30.620 Prize.

00:41:31.000 What is his

00:41:31.480 obsession with

00:41:32.040 the Nobel Peace

00:41:32.640 Prize,

00:41:33.020 man?

00:41:33.800 And the

00:41:34.140 Cambodians are

00:41:34.800 trolling

00:41:35.260 everyone,

00:41:36.140 basically saying

00:41:36.920 they plan to

00:41:38.040 nominate

00:41:38.500 Trump for the

00:41:39.840 Nobel Peace

00:41:40.420 deserved it

00:41:40.920 for the

00:41:41.200 Abraham

00:41:41.540 Accords,

00:41:42.260 but he

00:41:42.500 didn't get

00:41:42.820 it for

00:41:43.000 that,

00:41:43.320 so now

00:41:43.760 he wants

00:41:44.040 it for

00:41:44.400 his endless

00:41:45.280 ceasefires.

00:41:46.040 I mean,

00:41:46.680 don't get

00:41:47.020 wrong,

00:41:47.320 Trump has

00:41:47.960 done really

00:41:48.400 well in

00:41:48.820 international

00:41:49.300 diplomacy,

00:41:50.040 right?

00:41:50.980 But what

00:41:51.840 is the

00:41:52.080 obsession

00:41:52.380 with the

00:41:52.660 Nobel Peace

00:41:53.100 Prize?

00:41:53.640 Maybe

00:41:53.840 just because

00:41:54.400 a part of

00:41:54.840 him is

00:41:55.040 still an

00:41:55.540 establishment

00:41:55.940 guy,

00:41:56.400 he wants

00:41:56.980 the little

00:41:57.300 prizes.

00:41:57.940 I need

00:41:58.140 the pat

00:41:58.480 on the

00:41:58.660 back.

00:41:59.200 He does

00:41:59.500 need that

00:41:59.780 level,

00:42:00.000 doesn't

00:42:00.160 he?

00:42:01.320 Maybe

00:42:01.580 he just

00:42:02.240 wants the

00:42:02.540 best,

00:42:02.800 it's a

00:42:03.040 tremendous

00:42:03.400 prize,

00:42:03.940 one of the

00:42:04.160 best prizes

00:42:04.680 you can

00:42:04.900 get,

00:42:05.120 that kind

00:42:05.460 of thing.

00:42:06.040 They gave

00:42:07.460 it to

00:42:07.680 Obama,

00:42:08.200 didn't

00:42:08.380 they?

00:42:09.180 So it's

00:42:09.460 like,

00:42:09.620 why would

00:42:09.880 you care?

00:42:10.360 Yes,

00:42:10.680 that's the

00:42:11.280 problem.

00:42:11.820 That's why

00:42:12.200 he wants

00:42:12.500 it,

00:42:12.680 he wants

00:42:12.940 two.

00:42:13.660 Obama

00:42:14.000 got one,

00:42:14.560 I got

00:42:14.880 two,

00:42:15.240 that's what

00:42:15.900 he wants

00:42:16.160 to do.

00:42:16.520 Obama

00:42:16.780 got one,

00:42:17.320 therefore

00:42:17.480 it's

00:42:17.720 worthless,

00:42:18.600 is what

00:42:18.840 I would

00:42:19.140 think.

00:42:19.720 But it

00:42:20.920 is a

00:42:21.360 good thing

00:42:22.260 to show

00:42:22.720 to people

00:42:23.240 who are,

00:42:24.200 it's a

00:42:25.000 way of him

00:42:25.660 using the

00:42:26.440 argument to

00:42:27.020 his base

00:42:27.480 that I'm

00:42:28.460 not for

00:42:29.040 forever wars,

00:42:30.000 I'm the

00:42:30.540 president

00:42:30.820 of peace

00:42:31.320 and the

00:42:31.920 democrats

00:42:32.280 are the

00:42:32.760 presidents

00:42:33.120 of war.

00:42:34.420 Yeah,

00:42:34.560 I mean,

00:42:34.860 that's fair,

00:42:36.420 I mean,

00:42:36.640 Trump's always

00:42:37.340 been fairly

00:42:37.900 strong on

00:42:38.560 that,

00:42:38.800 to be

00:42:38.960 honest.

00:42:41.500 Chris says

00:42:42.240 seems staged.

00:42:44.720 I'm not sure

00:42:45.340 if he's talking

00:42:45.760 about that.

00:42:45.900 Probably that's

00:42:46.560 for...

00:42:47.040 I think

00:42:47.460 that's probably

00:42:47.780 for my one.

00:42:48.500 To be honest

00:42:48.920 with you,

00:42:49.200 a lot of

00:42:49.540 people on

00:42:49.920 Twitter were

00:42:50.320 saying the

00:42:50.880 stabbing

00:42:51.200 mistakes,

00:42:51.600 it was like,

00:42:52.080 why are they

00:42:52.400 recording?

00:42:53.200 Unless he

00:42:53.500 thinks Thailand

00:42:54.020 versus Cambodia

00:42:54.740 is staged,

00:42:55.520 is it?

00:42:56.140 Well,

00:42:56.340 I mean,

00:42:56.600 maybe...

00:42:56.980 Sound staged.

00:42:57.760 It just,

00:42:58.520 honestly,

00:42:58.940 it sounds

00:42:59.500 like...

00:43:00.040 But there's

00:43:00.540 always,

00:43:00.780 to be fair,

00:43:01.140 there's always

00:43:01.460 the it's all

00:43:02.180 fake people

00:43:02.740 now,

00:43:02.980 right?

00:43:03.160 No matter

00:43:03.340 what happens.

00:43:04.300 And I'm

00:43:04.440 always like,

00:43:04.800 hang on,

00:43:05.100 what's the

00:43:05.400 angle?

00:43:06.100 The Trump

00:43:06.840 attack is

00:43:08.120 fake.

00:43:09.020 Even something,

00:43:10.340 there was an

00:43:10.540 incident the

00:43:10.840 other day

00:43:11.140 with a young

00:43:11.520 man who

00:43:12.120 got punched

00:43:12.840 in a train

00:43:13.500 station.

00:43:13.960 It's always

00:43:14.300 like,

00:43:15.320 fake,

00:43:15.680 and I'm

00:43:15.800 like,

00:43:15.960 to what

00:43:16.260 end?

00:43:16.720 Why would

00:43:17.120 this one?

00:43:17.900 Because it's

00:43:18.160 like ones

00:43:18.560 that even,

00:43:19.380 there's no,

00:43:19.980 I can't see

00:43:20.440 any motivation.

00:43:21.400 Just like the

00:43:21.800 flat earth

00:43:22.200 conspiracy.

00:43:23.120 So what's

00:43:23.800 the payout

00:43:24.300 for this?

00:43:25.120 We're going

00:43:25.380 to persuade

00:43:25.780 everyone that

00:43:26.240 the earth is

00:43:26.660 actually round

00:43:27.300 when it's

00:43:27.640 actually flat.

00:43:29.360 Nima calls

00:43:29.980 them school

00:43:30.360 of schizo.

00:43:30.940 I've got

00:43:31.240 friends who've

00:43:31.660 gone so

00:43:32.040 school of

00:43:32.480 schizo,

00:43:32.820 everything's

00:43:33.880 fake,

00:43:34.140 you can't

00:43:34.360 talk to

00:43:34.560 them about

00:43:34.700 anything.

00:43:35.440 And some

00:43:35.760 things definitely

00:43:36.160 are fake,

00:43:36.940 but not

00:43:37.260 everything.

00:43:38.680 Chris says,

00:43:39.360 to be fair,

00:43:39.740 millions of

00:43:40.160 Brits have

00:43:40.460 been displaced

00:43:40.880 from their

00:43:41.220 home cities,

00:43:41.780 no one really

00:43:42.160 cares outside

00:43:42.700 of the country.

00:43:44.080 Well,

00:43:44.420 try getting our

00:43:45.160 government to

00:43:45.540 give a damn

00:43:45.940 about that.

00:43:47.780 Anyway,

00:43:48.240 let's move on.

00:43:50.220 Oh,

00:43:50.420 you want to do

00:43:50.680 it might be

00:43:50.920 cool.

00:43:51.460 Brilliant.

00:43:51.940 That's why

00:43:52.180 I'm here,

00:43:52.480 isn't it?

00:43:53.000 Of course.

00:43:54.260 So I've

00:43:55.480 called this

00:43:55.920 Hitchens

00:43:56.480 Tries to

00:43:57.060 Save the

00:43:57.460 Tories

00:43:57.820 Again.

00:43:59.460 And do I

00:44:00.520 have to plug

00:44:00.980 Islander first?

00:44:01.700 Yes.

00:44:01.900 It's still on

00:44:02.300 the screen.

00:44:02.700 But before

00:44:03.080 all that,

00:44:03.640 guys,

00:44:03.980 I've been

00:44:04.600 reading this

00:44:04.940 little magazine

00:44:05.540 called

00:44:06.020 Islander.

00:44:06.680 And I have

00:44:06.840 to say,

00:44:07.220 it's jolly

00:44:07.780 good stuff.

00:44:08.720 And you can

00:44:09.000 pick it up.

00:44:09.720 How did

00:44:09.960 they get it,

00:44:10.360 Carl?

00:44:11.120 Shop.lotuses.com.

00:44:12.500 It's shop.lotuses.com

00:44:13.840 and I highly

00:44:14.240 recommend it.

00:44:14.940 Maybe one day

00:44:15.380 I'll write for it

00:44:15.960 and that one

00:44:20.680 while stocks

00:44:21.200 last.

00:44:21.680 While stocks

00:44:22.080 last.

00:44:22.840 Do I just

00:44:23.160 click that?

00:44:23.580 Oh, there you

00:44:23.820 go.

00:44:24.200 And now we'll

00:44:24.660 move on to

00:44:25.120 the segment,

00:44:25.760 which is

00:44:26.180 Hitchens

00:44:26.740 Tries to

00:44:27.160 Save the

00:44:27.440 Tories

00:44:27.620 Again.

00:44:28.060 So good

00:44:29.080 old Peter

00:44:29.380 Hitchens.

00:44:29.740 And I have

00:44:30.020 done a

00:44:30.200 segment about

00:44:30.600 him before

00:44:30.960 on Lotus

00:44:31.280 It.

00:44:31.420 It's back

00:44:31.740 in the day

00:44:32.500 in the old

00:44:32.880 office and

00:44:33.200 he actually

00:44:33.440 liked it.

00:44:34.140 So hopefully

00:44:34.500 he will not

00:44:35.000 hate me for

00:44:35.440 this one.

00:44:35.760 I'm going

00:44:35.980 to be balanced.

00:44:37.640 But basically

00:44:38.400 Hitchens is back

00:44:39.060 with his anti-zero

00:44:40.760 seats campaign.

00:44:41.840 Oh, okay.

00:44:43.680 It's broken

00:44:44.380 Carl's brain

00:44:45.060 already.

00:44:46.760 Nigel Farage

00:44:47.480 Sorry, let

00:44:48.940 me get a bit

00:44:49.800 of history on

00:44:50.300 this, right?

00:44:50.800 So from

00:44:52.080 around the

00:44:52.580 year 2000

00:44:53.300 to about

00:44:53.900 2011, the

00:44:56.400 Conservative

00:44:56.840 Party was

00:44:57.820 losing to

00:44:58.780 the Labour

00:44:59.140 Party,

00:44:59.960 culturally,

00:45:01.060 morally,

00:45:01.840 and it got

00:45:02.380 to about

00:45:02.880 2010 and

00:45:04.760 Peter Hitchens

00:45:05.720 wrote an

00:45:06.140 entire book

00:45:06.840 saying don't

00:45:07.820 vote for

00:45:08.180 David Cameron

00:45:08.860 because he

00:45:10.080 is just a

00:45:10.720 Blairite and

00:45:11.600 he will

00:45:11.980 completely

00:45:12.620 capture the

00:45:13.380 Conservative

00:45:13.780 Party and

00:45:14.900 ruin the

00:45:15.460 entire country

00:45:16.240 if anything

00:45:17.400 and if

00:45:18.780 David Cameron

00:45:19.940 does win,

00:45:20.440 we're going

00:45:20.600 to have to

00:45:20.860 just destroy

00:45:21.380 the Conservative

00:45:21.900 Party entirely.

00:45:22.840 Yeah, called

00:45:23.260 The Cameron

00:45:23.620 Delusion.

00:45:24.220 Excellent book.

00:45:24.860 I read it and

00:45:25.160 he also did a

00:45:25.500 documentary called

00:45:26.060 The Toph at the

00:45:26.660 Top, also

00:45:27.220 recommended.

00:45:27.880 Yeah, and

00:45:29.140 Cameron won,

00:45:30.760 the Tories

00:45:31.320 ruined the

00:45:31.860 country and

00:45:33.100 so you might

00:45:33.960 think that

00:45:34.380 Peter Hitchens

00:45:34.880 will be banging

00:45:35.500 the drum of

00:45:36.140 zero seats.

00:45:37.160 We must scatter

00:45:37.900 the Conservative

00:45:38.520 Party to the

00:45:39.180 winds.

00:45:40.760 But no,

00:45:41.880 no, and it

00:45:42.320 came to the

00:45:42.680 election, he

00:45:43.160 made the case,

00:45:43.880 no, we have

00:45:44.940 to stop

00:45:45.380 Starmer's Labour

00:45:46.040 getting in at

00:45:46.440 all costs so

00:45:47.060 as much as I

00:45:47.560 hate the Tories

00:45:48.020 and as much

00:45:48.380 as I was

00:45:48.740 there first

00:45:49.240 saying, I'm

00:45:50.020 the one that

00:45:50.240 hates them

00:45:50.540 first before

00:45:51.360 you did, I'm

00:45:52.180 now saying

00:45:52.660 vote for them

00:45:53.480 while holding

00:45:54.860 your nose.

00:45:55.720 Weirdly, that

00:45:56.220 wasn't that

00:45:56.720 persuasive.

00:45:57.860 No, I

00:45:58.460 understood it,

00:45:59.080 it didn't apply

00:45:59.740 to my area

00:46:00.280 luckily because

00:46:00.880 Labour won by

00:46:02.560 double the

00:46:03.120 votes that

00:46:03.520 Tories and

00:46:04.200 reform put

00:46:04.720 together got,

00:46:05.540 so I was

00:46:05.820 like, I

00:46:06.080 wasn't in one

00:46:06.420 of those seats

00:46:07.140 where Hitchens

00:46:07.520 could come and

00:46:07.960 slap you with

00:46:08.400 the ruler,

00:46:09.100 but for some

00:46:09.480 people it's

00:46:09.720 like, look at

00:46:10.220 what you've

00:46:10.520 done, you've

00:46:10.920 brought in

00:46:11.260 Kirsten

00:46:11.560 I hope you're

00:46:12.080 up, you

00:46:12.420 know, and

00:46:13.160 he was

00:46:13.820 furious.

00:46:14.700 This headline,

00:46:15.880 Nigel Farage

00:46:16.560 may wipe out

00:46:17.220 what's left

00:46:17.760 of the Tory

00:46:18.300 party, but in

00:46:19.360 doing so he'll

00:46:20.100 destroy our

00:46:20.600 last defence

00:46:21.320 against the

00:46:21.780 anti-British

00:46:22.420 left.

00:46:23.220 My brother

00:46:23.640 in Christ,

00:46:24.280 the Tory

00:46:24.660 party are

00:46:25.360 the anti-British

00:46:26.160 left.

00:46:26.660 You can always

00:46:27.140 say that, but

00:46:27.780 he still

00:46:28.600 believes in

00:46:29.420 this piece

00:46:29.920 that they

00:46:30.280 are slightly

00:46:31.060 better than

00:46:32.100 the leftist

00:46:32.640 coalition will

00:46:33.260 get, so

00:46:33.700 he says,

00:46:34.540 so his whole

00:46:34.920 premise is what

00:46:35.420 if Nigel Farage

00:46:36.100 manages to

00:46:36.620 destroy the

00:46:37.040 Tory party but

00:46:37.800 cannot replace

00:46:38.520 it with

00:46:38.740 anything better,

00:46:39.700 and that's

00:46:40.040 the quite

00:46:40.500 interesting,

00:46:41.480 slightly different

00:46:42.080 angle, and

00:46:42.940 he quotes

00:46:43.600 Henry Hill,

00:46:44.540 who if we

00:46:44.960 have time I'll

00:46:45.440 get into later,

00:46:46.360 wrote a very

00:46:46.700 interesting piece

00:46:47.240 about that in

00:46:47.780 The Critic.

00:46:48.820 So he says,

00:46:49.900 most of us are

00:46:50.300 now sick to the

00:46:51.040 back teeth of the

00:46:51.580 Conservative

00:46:51.920 Party, patriotic

00:46:53.280 and slightly

00:46:53.960 sensible in

00:46:54.500 opposition,

00:46:55.120 unpatriotic,

00:46:55.840 politically

00:46:56.080 correct, and

00:46:57.060 jaw-droppingly

00:46:57.800 useless in

00:46:58.420 office.

00:46:58.780 So he does

00:46:59.120 acknowledge that.

00:46:59.720 That's great,

00:47:00.400 actually.

00:47:00.640 He says,

00:47:01.000 but this

00:47:01.340 crumbling,

00:47:02.000 rusted,

00:47:02.520 gap-toothed

00:47:03.020 political

00:47:03.360 Maginot line

00:47:04.260 is now all

00:47:04.860 that stands

00:47:05.220 between us

00:47:05.780 and the

00:47:06.000 terrifying

00:47:06.340 forces of

00:47:07.260 modern labour.

00:47:08.180 Taxes to

00:47:08.660 make your

00:47:08.980 wallet shrivel

00:47:09.620 and your

00:47:09.940 eyes water.

00:47:10.940 Boring,

00:47:11.380 guaranteed to

00:47:12.020 bring ruin,

00:47:12.600 net zero to

00:47:13.180 make that

00:47:13.700 ruin worse,

00:47:14.720 and of course,

00:47:16.020 a complete and

00:47:16.740 utter failure.

00:47:17.520 Can it be

00:47:17.880 accidental to

00:47:18.740 reduce legal or

00:47:19.820 illegal immigration?

00:47:20.880 Okay, pause

00:47:21.320 there.

00:47:21.780 We know that

00:47:22.440 it wasn't

00:47:22.820 accidental, and

00:47:24.200 it wasn't even

00:47:24.740 failure.

00:47:25.340 Boris Johnson

00:47:25.920 was like,

00:47:26.540 crank open the

00:47:27.320 floodgates, so

00:47:27.900 I want the

00:47:28.240 Financial Times

00:47:28.860 to like me.

00:47:29.740 Well, even

00:47:30.040 Starmer called

00:47:30.660 it an open

00:47:31.480 borders experiment.

00:47:32.640 Yeah.

00:47:33.080 Yeah, but here

00:47:34.280 we get the

00:47:34.640 great Hitchens

00:47:36.840 sort of imagery.

00:47:38.140 He carries

00:47:39.200 on, not to

00:47:39.780 mention a

00:47:40.320 large slimy

00:47:40.960 dollop of

00:47:41.440 traditional

00:47:41.760 labour

00:47:42.060 incompetence

00:47:42.560 on top.

00:47:43.240 You know,

00:47:43.540 terrible schools,

00:47:44.660 lots of

00:47:45.040 strikes, jammed

00:47:45.820 shuddering public

00:47:46.520 transport, absent

00:47:47.340 police, pressure

00:47:47.960 cooker prisons, and

00:47:48.900 the constant danger

00:47:49.540 of the IMF being

00:47:50.360 called in.

00:47:51.020 You don't even

00:47:51.440 get what you've

00:47:52.120 paid so much

00:47:52.720 for.

00:47:53.500 And this is my

00:47:54.120 favourite bit.

00:47:54.920 Nobody understands

00:47:55.580 better than I do

00:47:56.160 that if the Tory

00:47:56.740 was a person, it

00:47:57.700 would deserve to

00:47:58.240 be made to stand

00:47:58.860 in the pillory and

00:47:59.660 be pelted for

00:48:00.420 many hours with

00:48:01.260 bad eggs, squidgy

00:48:02.680 beetroots, Brussels

00:48:03.580 sprouts, lots of

00:48:04.440 those, expired

00:48:05.300 tomatoes, and old

00:48:06.380 cold porridge.

00:48:07.320 And of course,

00:48:08.500 voting for Nigel

00:48:09.100 Farage's Reform

00:48:09.820 UK is a tempting

00:48:10.600 way of subjecting

00:48:11.620 it to just such

00:48:12.300 enjoyable humiliation.

00:48:13.040 Well, you're

00:48:13.320 really selling it

00:48:14.060 to me.

00:48:14.380 I wasn't going to

00:48:15.000 vote for Farage,

00:48:15.840 but now I might.

00:48:16.800 He's selling it.

00:48:17.400 I know, he's

00:48:17.700 giving, to be fair,

00:48:18.620 the other case

00:48:19.260 quite strongly.

00:48:20.840 But he goes on

00:48:21.380 to say why we

00:48:22.680 can't actually do

00:48:23.720 that because the

00:48:24.580 Tory party is not

00:48:25.420 a person.

00:48:26.760 Okay, before we

00:48:27.760 go on, right,

00:48:28.680 can we go back

00:48:29.680 up a second?

00:48:30.180 I really approve

00:48:31.680 of his denigration

00:48:33.600 of the Labour

00:48:34.420 party because we

00:48:35.960 saw, sorry, I'll

00:48:36.900 just take control

00:48:37.600 a second.

00:48:38.060 We saw Peter

00:48:39.140 Kyle calling

00:48:39.760 Nigel Farage a

00:48:40.440 pedo the other

00:48:41.060 day, right?

00:48:42.400 Peter Kyle, the

00:48:43.220 science secretary.

00:48:44.020 Or at least on

00:48:44.900 the side of.

00:48:45.840 Yeah, but that's

00:48:46.580 essentially saying

00:48:47.200 the same thing.

00:48:48.520 Peter Kyle

00:48:48.920 basically saying,

00:48:50.320 yeah, Nigel

00:48:50.780 Farage hearts

00:48:52.300 Jimmy Savile.

00:48:53.740 And it's like,

00:48:54.300 that's ridiculous.

00:48:55.140 But this whole

00:48:57.240 general incompetence

00:48:58.560 is something I

00:48:59.880 really think is

00:49:00.760 just so

00:49:01.620 phenomenally true.

00:49:03.140 And people dug

00:49:03.740 up a tweet on

00:49:04.420 Peter Kyle's

00:49:04.920 Twitter feed from

00:49:06.040 2019 that I'm

00:49:07.460 going to read to

00:49:08.020 you verbatim

00:49:08.760 because I just

00:49:10.840 can't believe that

00:49:12.020 these people are,

00:49:12.720 I mean, he's a

00:49:13.320 member of the

00:49:13.900 British government

00:49:14.520 right now.

00:49:15.740 Quote from

00:49:16.360 Peter Kyle.

00:49:16.960 The last time I

00:49:18.080 was assessed,

00:49:18.780 when I was 30,

00:49:20.040 my reading and

00:49:20.720 comprehension age

00:49:22.280 was estimated at

00:49:23.540 eight years and

00:49:24.420 three months.

00:49:26.360 Yeah, I

00:49:27.260 quote tweeted it.

00:49:28.240 He reads like an

00:49:28.960 eight-year-old.

00:49:29.660 Did you get my

00:49:30.220 response to it?

00:49:32.220 Basically, he's the

00:49:32.900 guy who said he's

00:49:33.860 an idiot.

00:49:34.660 For some things,

00:49:35.540 like word

00:49:35.980 comprehension, I was

00:49:37.100 in the bottom

00:49:37.580 one percentile.

00:49:40.260 Let's make him a

00:49:41.120 politician.

00:49:41.720 Yeah, because the

00:49:43.160 online safety bill

00:49:43.840 you don't have to be

00:49:44.260 18.

00:49:44.860 I said, I hate to

00:49:45.500 tell you this, but

00:49:45.900 with that reading age

00:49:46.600 we'll have to censor

00:49:47.260 what you can see on

00:49:47.840 the internet.

00:49:48.600 So he won't be able

00:49:49.760 to comprehend what

00:49:50.500 he sees.

00:49:50.900 Well, yeah, he

00:49:52.580 says he's got a

00:49:53.600 thread here.

00:49:54.000 I was put into

00:49:54.580 remedial class with

00:49:55.700 kids experiencing

00:49:56.420 quite severe learning

00:49:57.400 and behavioural

00:49:58.060 difficulties.

00:49:58.920 The problem is you

00:49:59.300 get death threats

00:49:59.940 from the dyslexia

00:50:00.900 lobby, because I've

00:50:01.720 said things, I

00:50:02.280 criticise ADHD on

00:50:03.500 GB News and I've

00:50:04.140 got someone threatening

00:50:04.860 me with a gun

00:50:05.480 emoji.

00:50:06.300 I'm like, guys,

00:50:06.800 ADHD.

00:50:07.760 But of course, this

00:50:08.280 all ties back in

00:50:08.880 with Hitchens, because

00:50:09.380 he says dyslexia

00:50:10.180 doesn't exist.

00:50:11.120 He says he left

00:50:12.200 school without any

00:50:12.840 usable qualifications,

00:50:14.440 but managed to

00:50:15.000 get someone who

00:50:15.560 was 25 when he

00:50:16.600 started over, and

00:50:18.000 now he's in the

00:50:18.740 government.

00:50:19.840 Not exactly, you

00:50:20.540 not Powell, is

00:50:21.080 it?

00:50:21.260 Oh my God, we

00:50:22.180 used to produce

00:50:22.800 brilliant men, and

00:50:24.260 now...

00:50:24.760 And we're ruled by

00:50:25.400 them, I know, it's

00:50:25.900 quite disturbing.

00:50:26.560 So anyway, if you

00:50:27.060 wondered, I was on

00:50:28.180 Crowder the other

00:50:28.800 day, and I was

00:50:29.240 like, look, no, our

00:50:30.060 politicians are

00:50:30.780 effing retarded.

00:50:31.860 I watched that.

00:50:32.300 Yeah, and they thought

00:50:34.300 I was joking.

00:50:35.560 They thought I was

00:50:36.080 joking.

00:50:36.340 No, no, you

00:50:36.640 meant literally.

00:50:37.120 I literally meant

00:50:38.640 they have the

00:50:39.440 reading comprehension

00:50:40.040 age of pre-teens.

00:50:42.020 Yeah, and imagine

00:50:42.860 how Hitchens feels

00:50:43.540 about that.

00:50:44.100 Yeah, I know.

00:50:44.880 He's known to

00:50:45.380 chat a bit about

00:50:45.960 decline, I've

00:50:46.820 heard.

00:50:47.680 Talk about

00:50:48.060 decline, man,

00:50:48.880 Jesus.

00:50:49.400 It's his

00:50:49.580 favourite thing.

00:50:51.220 So, but you

00:50:52.980 see, Carl, you

00:50:53.660 can't punish the

00:50:54.280 Tories, because he

00:50:54.800 says, the Tory

00:50:55.620 party is not a

00:50:56.300 person.

00:50:56.620 It feels no pain,

00:50:57.380 it suffers no shame

00:50:58.180 or remorse.

00:50:58.640 I believe that.

00:50:59.300 Use it as much

00:51:00.040 as you like, and

00:51:00.680 you will not, by

00:51:01.300 doing so, compel

00:51:02.200 it to become what

00:51:02.800 you want it to be.

00:51:03.740 On the other

00:51:04.000 hand, it is the

00:51:04.860 only feeble obstacle

00:51:06.080 to the forces of

00:51:07.000 the active idiot

00:51:07.940 left, already in

00:51:09.040 control of the law,

00:51:09.780 the civil service,

00:51:10.460 the NHS, the

00:51:11.000 education system,

00:51:11.720 and the BBC.

00:51:13.300 So he's agreeing

00:51:14.480 that it's feeble,

00:51:15.400 but he says, unless

00:51:15.880 you can be sure you

00:51:16.620 have a replacement

00:51:17.180 ready and to hand,

00:51:18.160 it might be worth

00:51:18.780 waiting till you can

00:51:19.900 build something

00:51:20.320 better before hurling

00:51:21.200 it into the

00:51:21.880 wheelie bin of

00:51:22.860 history.

00:51:23.320 Hang on a second,

00:51:23.920 hang on a second.

00:51:24.480 So this, oh my

00:51:25.860 God, Mr. Hitchens,

00:51:27.520 it seems like the

00:51:28.640 war is already

00:51:29.220 lost, mate.

00:51:30.380 They control the

00:51:30.960 law, the civil

00:51:31.660 service, the NHS,

00:51:32.700 the education system,

00:51:33.640 and the BBC.

00:51:35.040 What ideological

00:51:36.320 state apparatus do

00:51:37.760 they not have

00:51:38.420 control of?

00:51:39.080 Presumably, in this

00:51:39.940 argument, Parliament,

00:51:41.520 if they won, I

00:51:42.420 mean...

00:51:42.800 They have control

00:51:43.660 of Parliament,

00:51:44.060 because they're

00:51:44.240 the government.

00:51:45.040 Yeah, but he's

00:51:45.540 saying, don't give

00:51:46.520 up on the toys,

00:51:47.080 because then they

00:51:47.760 could come back in

00:51:48.540 and recapture some

00:51:49.840 of these institutions.

00:51:50.720 I don't know, yes,

00:51:51.640 I know.

00:51:51.840 I don't know, I

00:51:52.540 think it's over.

00:51:53.620 It feels like it

00:51:54.440 from that sense, but

00:51:55.280 he, now, there's

00:51:57.600 some strange

00:51:58.120 moments, of

00:51:59.060 course, I love

00:51:59.580 Hitchens, but there

00:52:00.300 are some strange

00:52:00.800 moments in the

00:52:02.060 piece where he

00:52:02.520 tries to pin the

00:52:04.280 Southport thing on

00:52:05.740 Farage in that

00:52:06.320 very kind of

00:52:06.980 standard lib way.

00:52:09.460 Yeah, because he

00:52:10.820 talks about, where

00:52:12.820 is the part, he

00:52:13.340 talks about...

00:52:14.240 I think he was

00:52:14.560 up a bit.

00:52:14.960 He said, oh

00:52:15.520 yeah, there's

00:52:16.400 quite a lot on

00:52:16.920 Farage.

00:52:17.580 Southport killer,

00:52:18.520 smoke killer.

00:52:18.840 Oh, that's the

00:52:19.300 marijuana, we'll get

00:52:19.860 on to that.

00:52:20.400 Inevitably, it was

00:52:20.960 all due to

00:52:21.300 marijuana.

00:52:22.280 But, yeah, he

00:52:23.480 talked about Farage

00:52:24.620 being, you know

00:52:25.220 how Farage said the

00:52:26.040 truth was being

00:52:26.520 with health

00:52:26.840 most, which it

00:52:27.500 was, by the

00:52:27.940 way.

00:52:28.640 But he says, I

00:52:30.380 asked at the

00:52:30.760 time in these

00:52:31.340 pages, is it

00:52:32.100 conceivable that

00:52:33.140 the suggestion of

00:52:33.680 a police cover-up

00:52:34.440 made by a man of

00:52:35.180 such standard,

00:52:35.920 Farage, played

00:52:36.620 some part in the

00:52:37.340 idiotic, shameful

00:52:38.040 scenes that have

00:52:38.560 erupted on our

00:52:39.080 streets since then?

00:52:39.860 I still think it's

00:52:40.460 an interesting

00:52:40.860 question, given

00:52:41.440 Farage's continued

00:52:42.540 prominence in

00:52:43.000 national politics.

00:52:43.640 So, he takes

00:52:44.420 the stance of

00:52:44.940 any kind of...

00:52:45.960 He's not saying

00:52:46.960 Farage riots, but

00:52:48.320 he's almost saying

00:52:48.860 that.

00:52:48.880 He basically is

00:52:49.540 saying.

00:52:49.720 So, I think that's

00:52:51.060 something I disagree

00:52:51.880 with, of course.

00:52:52.960 And then he also, I

00:52:53.740 disagree, of course,

00:52:54.600 with this take on

00:52:55.860 marijuana.

00:52:56.420 Now, I certainly

00:52:57.800 believe marijuana's

00:52:58.820 bad and should not

00:52:59.840 be smelt on every

00:53:00.780 London street and

00:53:01.700 should be a crime,

00:53:02.780 but I don't agree

00:53:04.100 with this.

00:53:04.420 He says, from what

00:53:04.880 we've learned about

00:53:05.460 the Southport killer,

00:53:06.200 it's plain that he's

00:53:06.800 deranged, almost

00:53:07.680 certainly by the

00:53:08.360 marijuana use, which

00:53:09.140 is frighteningly

00:53:09.700 common in our

00:53:10.120 schools among

00:53:10.600 pupils of his age,

00:53:11.860 and goes on.

00:53:12.420 So, you've got to

00:53:13.240 have a Hitchens bit

00:53:13.840 about marijuana, but

00:53:14.900 that's kind of a

00:53:15.680 digression, really.

00:53:16.780 He's on firmer

00:53:17.440 ground, I think, with

00:53:18.360 his attacks on

00:53:19.120 Farage and the

00:53:20.600 kind of superficiality

00:53:22.380 of the reform project

00:53:23.760 and a classic

00:53:24.360 Hitchens line, peer

00:53:25.200 into Mr. Farage's

00:53:26.140 depths, and you

00:53:26.800 find they are

00:53:27.320 shallow.

00:53:28.040 Dive or jump into

00:53:28.860 them, hoping for a

00:53:29.540 refreshing dip in

00:53:30.200 original thinking, and

00:53:31.180 you will break

00:53:31.600 something when you

00:53:32.060 hit the bottom.

00:53:33.120 His thoughts on

00:53:33.680 police crime and

00:53:34.440 prison are totally

00:53:35.160 impractical, and you

00:53:35.800 can tell he really

00:53:36.360 isn't very interesting.

00:53:37.520 Tell us how you

00:53:38.000 really feel, Peter.

00:53:38.740 Yeah, and he

00:53:39.240 compares him to

00:53:39.960 Ken Livingstone in

00:53:40.800 that he doesn't

00:53:41.240 know how to

00:53:42.200 operate in the

00:53:42.620 House of Commons,

00:53:43.660 but is a kind of

00:53:44.280 high-voltage

00:53:45.080 political individual

00:53:45.920 with a strong

00:53:46.400 following.

00:53:47.160 Wasn't Ken

00:53:47.660 Livingstone a

00:53:48.260 Holocaust

00:53:48.640 denier?

00:53:49.460 I don't know

00:53:49.880 about that, but

00:53:50.680 I'm saying I

00:53:51.580 don't know

00:53:51.860 in case we get

00:53:52.300 sued, but I

00:53:52.960 generally don't

00:53:53.340 know.

00:53:53.480 I'm going to

00:53:53.940 look it up.

00:53:55.120 But he points

00:53:55.580 out that Farage

00:53:56.080 is brilliant at

00:53:56.960 surfing the

00:53:57.420 crowds, he

00:53:58.120 knows what

00:53:58.400 slogans

00:53:58.700 connect, and

00:53:59.360 so on.

00:53:59.960 Fairly standard

00:54:00.660 critique of

00:54:01.260 Farage, but...

00:54:03.000 Oh, sorry, no,

00:54:03.620 he made Hitler

00:54:04.300 comments in

00:54:05.600 2016, which

00:54:07.380 were apparently

00:54:07.900 inaccurate, quote

00:54:08.760 unquote.

00:54:10.520 Apparently, oh

00:54:11.040 no, he said

00:54:12.160 that Hitler was a

00:54:12.760 Zionist.

00:54:14.360 Okay, phew.

00:54:15.960 Well, please

00:54:16.360 not sue us, Ken,

00:54:17.060 if you're watching.

00:54:17.940 I know he's a

00:54:18.260 big fan of the

00:54:18.760 show.

00:54:18.940 Anyway, there's

00:54:20.900 another article

00:54:21.560 I want to get

00:54:21.940 on to, so

00:54:22.240 let's conclude.

00:54:23.060 Hitchens

00:54:23.380 concludes, he

00:54:24.040 may well be

00:54:24.480 able to wipe

00:54:24.880 out much of

00:54:25.260 what is left

00:54:25.600 of the Tory

00:54:25.980 party, meaning

00:54:26.700 Farage, but

00:54:27.380 in any voting

00:54:27.840 system, he

00:54:28.260 will struggle

00:54:28.640 to secure

00:54:29.120 a majority,

00:54:29.840 and if he

00:54:30.120 does, he

00:54:30.720 will struggle

00:54:31.000 even more

00:54:31.560 to make a

00:54:32.280 government out

00:54:32.840 of it.

00:54:33.080 So this is

00:54:33.460 the case,

00:54:34.180 you know,

00:54:34.380 they're just

00:54:34.780 going to wipe

00:54:35.180 out the

00:54:36.060 Tories, but

00:54:36.520 to no avail.

00:54:38.160 So on this,

00:54:39.160 I don't think

00:54:39.740 Farage is going

00:54:40.520 to struggle to

00:54:41.020 secure a majority,

00:54:41.660 I think he's

00:54:42.040 got it.

00:54:43.320 The various

00:54:44.360 parties, like

00:54:44.980 Farage is

00:54:45.560 over 30%

00:54:46.380 now, regularly,

00:54:47.620 and it's

00:54:48.560 entirely possible

00:54:49.160 that a good

00:54:49.720 bit of

00:54:49.960 campaigning

00:54:50.400 before an

00:54:50.880 election can

00:54:51.760 push him to

00:54:52.200 like 35%,

00:54:52.780 36%.

00:54:53.480 Yeah, I

00:54:54.700 think he

00:54:54.940 can win as

00:54:55.280 well.

00:54:55.980 The question

00:54:56.620 of whether

00:54:56.900 we'll make

00:54:57.260 it, what

00:54:57.740 we'll do

00:54:58.000 after.

00:54:58.380 It's making

00:54:59.080 the government

00:54:59.600 out.

00:54:59.800 Yeah, that's

00:55:00.160 the key part.

00:55:01.500 And this

00:55:02.540 was quite

00:55:02.800 interesting.

00:55:03.300 Annabelle

00:55:03.700 Denham in

00:55:04.100 The Telegraph

00:55:04.420 had a similar

00:55:04.900 idea.

00:55:05.320 She said

00:55:05.780 as well,

00:55:06.340 very similar

00:55:07.120 conclusion.

00:55:07.580 She said

00:55:07.900 Farage is

00:55:08.560 winning because

00:55:09.140 Labour are

00:55:10.160 imploding and

00:55:10.800 the Conservatives

00:55:11.300 are loath.

00:55:12.060 Yet two years

00:55:12.560 from now,

00:55:12.900 the picture

00:55:13.140 could be very

00:55:13.500 different.

00:55:13.860 Reform may

00:55:14.280 itself have

00:55:14.800 descended into

00:55:15.280 chaos.

00:55:16.060 They're making

00:55:16.360 up policies on

00:55:16.920 the spur of

00:55:17.320 the moment.

00:55:17.680 That certainly

00:55:18.060 seems true.

00:55:18.760 The suggestion

00:55:19.120 we nationalize

00:55:19.760 50% of our

00:55:20.380 water industry,

00:55:20.960 just like this

00:55:21.300 example.

00:55:22.440 And then she

00:55:22.780 says,

00:55:23.060 will enough

00:55:23.380 voters really

00:55:24.180 think reform

00:55:24.840 able to form

00:55:25.500 a functioning

00:55:25.860 government when

00:55:26.680 the current

00:55:30.700 and they

00:55:30.960 still can't

00:55:31.400 make it

00:55:31.680 coherent.

00:55:32.480 But the

00:55:32.900 problem is,

00:55:33.700 although this

00:55:34.160 entire piece

00:55:34.760 is about why

00:55:35.580 Kemi should

00:55:36.160 be stuck

00:55:36.620 with and

00:55:37.420 the Tories

00:55:37.780 need to

00:55:38.140 plough on

00:55:38.700 with Kemi,

00:55:40.280 the problem

00:55:41.020 with it is

00:55:41.660 the graph

00:55:42.100 that says

00:55:42.560 no,

00:55:43.040 Farage outperforms

00:55:43.780 Badenock with

00:55:44.220 almost every

00:55:44.960 group.

00:55:45.580 And Farage is

00:55:46.020 beating Kemi

00:55:46.460 Badenock 28%

00:55:47.900 to 18%

00:55:48.560 overall,

00:55:49.000 but also 35%

00:55:50.180 to 19%

00:55:50.920 male,

00:55:51.960 but also

00:55:52.420 beating

00:55:52.720 earned female

00:55:53.420 and in 18

00:55:54.400 to 34 and

00:55:55.320 in 35 to

00:55:55.980 54 and

00:55:56.540 55 plus and

00:55:57.680 graduates,

00:55:58.280 but also

00:55:58.620 non-graduates,

00:55:59.720 North,

00:56:00.080 Midland,

00:56:00.500 South,

00:56:00.860 London,

00:56:01.440 that's all

00:56:01.780 there is.

00:56:02.120 Wales,

00:56:02.500 he's absolutely

00:56:03.180 spanking it

00:56:03.740 and even

00:56:04.080 Scotland,

00:56:04.520 he's beating

00:56:04.820 it.

00:56:05.260 So you go,

00:56:06.100 what's Kemi?

00:56:06.960 I mean,

00:56:07.400 recognizability

00:56:08.720 and the brand

00:56:09.380 helps in

00:56:10.380 politics and

00:56:11.480 the Tory party

00:56:12.540 does have that

00:56:13.300 brand because

00:56:13.820 it's the

00:56:14.200 oldest party

00:56:14.840 and one of

00:56:15.200 the most

00:56:15.620 effective

00:56:16.460 parties in

00:56:17.100 history.

00:56:17.600 But I

00:56:18.400 think it's

00:56:19.540 not just

00:56:20.140 the Tory party

00:56:21.000 and the

00:56:21.500 Reform party

00:56:22.380 and the

00:56:22.720 Labour party,

00:56:23.440 it's who

00:56:24.000 leads it.

00:56:25.000 We're talking

00:56:25.600 about a

00:56:26.120 Badenock-led

00:56:27.440 Tory party

00:56:28.920 versus a

00:56:29.960 Farage-led

00:56:30.500 reform party

00:56:31.960 and recognizability

00:56:33.880 here is going

00:56:34.540 to be in

00:56:35.100 Farage's

00:56:35.580 favour.

00:56:36.340 I'm talking

00:56:37.000 about this

00:56:37.420 from a

00:56:37.760 realistic

00:56:38.120 perspective

00:56:38.640 because from

00:56:39.540 my understanding

00:56:40.160 Peter Hitchens

00:56:40.820 was saying

00:56:41.440 before the

00:56:41.960 previous elections

00:56:42.740 that reform

00:56:45.300 isn't going

00:56:45.980 to win,

00:56:46.460 so back

00:56:46.960 Conservatives.

00:56:48.420 Am I wrong?

00:56:48.980 That was part

00:56:49.440 of it,

00:56:49.700 yeah.

00:56:50.480 But you're

00:56:51.040 right,

00:56:51.220 that does

00:56:51.520 become

00:56:51.780 harder to

00:56:52.400 justify

00:56:53.160 given these

00:56:53.800 stats and

00:56:54.700 various polls.

00:56:55.520 How long

00:56:55.780 have I got

00:56:56.060 Carl?

00:56:56.240 Because there's

00:56:56.460 another good

00:56:56.900 article.

00:56:57.020 Just a quick

00:57:00.300 thing on this

00:57:00.740 though,

00:57:01.020 it's kind of

00:57:01.620 crazy when you

00:57:02.060 look at the

00:57:02.340 polls because

00:57:02.860 Nigel Farage is

00:57:03.780 regularly getting

00:57:04.300 33-35%.

00:57:06.440 Starmer's down

00:57:08.000 to 25%.

00:57:08.800 And then

00:57:09.060 Kami Badenoch

00:57:09.620 has been on

00:57:10.020 like 15-17-18%.

00:57:12.400 It's just like...

00:57:13.840 Yeah,

00:57:14.340 it's mad.

00:57:14.920 I mean,

00:57:15.180 she claims

00:57:15.920 she's doing

00:57:16.680 this process,

00:57:17.320 she's rebuilding,

00:57:18.260 so she's sort

00:57:19.080 of in hiding

00:57:19.560 for a bit.

00:57:20.140 But you can't

00:57:20.720 really be like

00:57:21.080 that with the

00:57:21.460 threat of Farage,

00:57:22.040 that's her big

00:57:22.500 problem.

00:57:23.640 There's a very

00:57:24.200 similar article,

00:57:24.880 which I believe

00:57:25.460 is the one that

00:57:25.840 Hitchens is

00:57:26.220 referencing at the

00:57:26.840 start,

00:57:27.640 and I'm sure

00:57:27.940 he'll correct me

00:57:28.440 in a series of

00:57:28.980 tweets if it

00:57:29.440 isn't,

00:57:29.980 which is

00:57:30.960 Who Can Rescue

00:57:31.620 the Right,

00:57:32.180 which comes from

00:57:32.680 Henry Hill

00:57:33.240 in The Critic.

00:57:36.440 It delves into

00:57:37.300 even things like

00:57:37.960 elite theory,

00:57:38.800 so for fans of

00:57:39.540 that.

00:57:40.040 But he says,

00:57:40.420 with the Conservative

00:57:40.880 Party on its knees,

00:57:41.700 many people seem

00:57:42.360 either to hope or

00:57:43.120 expect that Reform UK

00:57:44.000 will replace it as

00:57:45.140 the major right-wing

00:57:45.720 party in British

00:57:46.400 politics,

00:57:47.160 yet the evidence

00:57:47.680 offers scant

00:57:48.240 support for the

00:57:48.840 belief reform can

00:57:49.540 certainly kill or

00:57:50.780 at least mortally

00:57:51.360 wound the Conservative

00:57:51.980 Party if it sets

00:57:52.860 its mind to it.

00:57:53.780 Replacing it is

00:57:54.420 another matter,

00:57:55.000 so it's the same

00:57:56.060 point, well,

00:57:56.520 it's the same point

00:57:56.900 because Hitchens

00:57:57.220 partly referenced

00:57:57.840 this article,

00:57:58.340 but it's can

00:57:59.640 they actually,

00:58:00.160 will they just

00:58:01.900 finish it to let

00:58:02.820 the left in and

00:58:03.320 not do anything

00:58:03.900 themselves?

00:58:04.320 It's a slightly

00:58:04.640 different angle

00:58:05.120 than I've heard

00:58:07.060 in a sense.

00:58:08.060 The bear case for

00:58:08.700 reform is the

00:58:09.240 great right hope

00:58:09.860 has two parts,

00:58:10.480 both of which are

00:58:10.940 anchored in the

00:58:11.380 British right's

00:58:11.900 most fundamental

00:58:12.960 strategic weakness,

00:58:13.960 a gaping talent

00:58:14.740 deficit.

00:58:16.140 I mean,

00:58:17.000 that does seem

00:58:17.580 like a strategic

00:58:18.120 weakness,

00:58:18.940 but as we've

00:58:21.440 already established,

00:58:22.660 the left is full

00:58:23.780 of retards as

00:58:24.460 well, so I think

00:58:26.180 it might just be

00:58:26.740 theocracy.

00:58:27.680 That is true.

00:58:28.360 It might just be

00:58:29.760 British politics

00:58:30.860 attracts morons.

00:58:31.980 You need to write

00:58:32.780 a rebuttal to this,

00:58:33.620 Carl, so the left

00:58:34.480 is full of retards

00:58:35.300 as well.

00:58:35.740 It could be a

00:58:36.080 good time.

00:58:38.540 So, now,

00:58:40.020 what problem is

00:58:40.420 I don't know

00:58:40.700 where my next

00:58:41.480 bit is here.

00:58:42.620 So, he goes on

00:58:43.780 to say that a

00:58:44.320 consistent feature

00:58:45.040 of Farage's

00:58:46.220 political life

00:58:46.980 is a congenital

00:58:48.480 inability to

00:58:49.160 allow his

00:58:49.500 parties to grow

00:58:50.120 bigger than

00:58:50.580 he is, which

00:58:52.000 I think we've

00:58:52.480 all seen.

00:58:54.460 And the

00:58:55.060 reason I can't

00:58:55.720 find this is

00:58:56.080 originally, it

00:58:56.820 was from a

00:58:57.120 different article

00:58:57.800 that I was

00:58:58.140 trying to quote.

00:58:59.200 So, here we

00:58:59.540 go.

00:58:59.840 Farage's

00:59:00.220 leadership instincts

00:59:01.060 are those of

00:59:01.580 a Macedonian

00:59:02.260 king,

00:59:02.940 happiest at the

00:59:03.480 head of a

00:59:03.860 cavalry phalanx

00:59:04.680 which simply

00:59:05.180 follows him

00:59:05.600 into whatever

00:59:06.020 gap he espies

00:59:06.960 in the ranks

00:59:07.800 of his enemies.

00:59:08.680 As a short-term

00:59:09.340 tactic, this is

00:59:10.020 undeniably effective

00:59:11.040 just as it was

00:59:11.920 for Alexander.

00:59:12.620 But just as the

00:59:13.120 Alexandrian Empire

00:59:13.960 imploded upon the

00:59:14.840 death of its

00:59:15.200 founder, so too

00:59:16.280 is it impossible

00:59:16.880 to imagine reform

00:59:17.800 surviving without

00:59:18.460 Farage?

00:59:19.900 I feel like you're

00:59:20.320 about to correct

00:59:20.840 something.

00:59:21.500 No, I'm not

00:59:21.920 about to correct.

00:59:22.620 I want to say

00:59:23.780 I think

00:59:24.580 from my

00:59:26.400 perspective, he

00:59:27.800 sort of does

00:59:28.600 have a point

00:59:29.120 as far as

00:59:30.540 Farage's

00:59:31.820 personality is

00:59:32.680 concerned.

00:59:33.140 Completely.

00:59:33.620 To my eyes, he

00:59:35.340 seems like someone

00:59:36.080 who's far more

00:59:36.960 interested in

00:59:38.000 campaigning than

00:59:38.700 actually governing.

00:59:39.700 Yeah, it's really

00:59:40.140 weird because

00:59:40.900 Farage is the

00:59:42.660 worst at making

00:59:43.620 friends.

00:59:44.700 Farage has been

00:59:45.320 doing this since

00:59:46.000 the late 90s and

00:59:47.640 after 30 years of

00:59:49.300 being an important

00:59:50.520 and probably one of

00:59:51.400 the most monumental

00:59:52.700 politicians in

00:59:54.200 late 20th century,

00:59:55.460 early 21st century

00:59:56.220 British history,

00:59:57.720 Farage has like

00:59:58.500 four friends.

00:59:59.900 Oh, well, yeah.

01:00:00.520 On that point, he

01:00:01.860 has this thing about

01:00:03.500 the evil overlord

01:00:04.900 reference.

01:00:05.760 He says, it's a

01:00:07.020 quote from somewhere

01:00:07.980 where he goes,

01:00:08.640 I reserve the right

01:00:09.220 to execute any

01:00:10.060 henchmen who appear

01:00:10.800 to be a little too

01:00:11.380 intelligent, powerful,

01:00:12.280 or devious.

01:00:12.920 However, if I do so,

01:00:13.760 I will at some

01:00:14.280 subsequent point

01:00:14.900 shout, why am I

01:00:15.820 surrounded by these

01:00:16.400 incompetent fools?

01:00:17.740 So that's...

01:00:18.120 No doubt Farage

01:00:18.940 has shouted in his...

01:00:20.000 Yeah, and on...

01:00:23.120 Yeah, and so...

01:00:24.220 He's going to go

01:00:24.900 Stalin where I'm a

01:00:25.880 general.

01:00:27.560 So, yeah, he says,

01:00:28.620 whilst Farage is a

01:00:29.360 master at channeling

01:00:30.200 incoherent popular

01:00:31.040 anger, he doesn't

01:00:31.920 actually represent any

01:00:32.700 substantial social

01:00:33.680 force or coherent

01:00:34.900 philosophy.

01:00:35.740 That's kind of...

01:00:36.560 That's the interesting

01:00:37.140 part.

01:00:38.360 He represents no

01:00:39.720 social block, no

01:00:41.120 defined body of

01:00:42.120 sentiment or opinion.

01:00:43.220 So it's interesting,

01:00:44.260 although we've just

01:00:44.660 seen it, he actually

01:00:45.360 is winning in all

01:00:45.960 those demographics.

01:00:46.940 What is winning?

01:00:48.180 Just sort of

01:00:48.920 Farage-ism, the sort

01:00:50.120 of...

01:00:50.440 The protest vote.

01:00:51.200 Yeah, exactly, the

01:00:51.980 anger.

01:00:53.560 So, and he says,

01:00:54.620 points out that this

01:00:55.320 means a couple of

01:00:56.520 things.

01:00:56.780 It means you're

01:00:57.900 exposed both by the

01:00:59.200 chill winds of elite

01:00:59.980 opinion, which we've

01:01:00.780 definitely seen, and the

01:01:01.800 temptation to make

01:01:02.460 tactical plays at the

01:01:03.480 expense of any broader

01:01:04.880 strategic vision.

01:01:06.400 That is clearly the

01:01:08.200 problem.

01:01:08.480 Good examples there,

01:01:10.340 allowing the

01:01:10.900 Jemric to outflank him

01:01:12.280 on immigration, the

01:01:13.580 U-turn on the

01:01:14.080 universal credit for

01:01:15.140 two children.

01:01:15.960 I mean, the idea that

01:01:16.880 Farage can be like,

01:01:17.500 yeah, Jemric's definitely

01:01:18.260 to the right of me on

01:01:19.060 immigration.

01:01:19.980 Why would you say that?

01:01:21.000 Why, yeah, why would

01:01:21.800 you allow that to be the

01:01:22.820 case?

01:01:23.480 It's completely crazy.

01:01:25.640 But where this...

01:01:26.820 So we probably all agree

01:01:28.580 with that, but then where

01:01:29.200 it gets quite interesting is

01:01:30.560 he points out that the

01:01:31.840 Tories have actually the

01:01:33.100 same problem.

01:01:34.280 So it's unlike the

01:01:34.960 Hitchens piece.

01:01:35.460 He's not saying, but we'll

01:01:36.320 stick with the Tories.

01:01:37.080 He says that they have

01:01:39.980 exactly the same

01:01:40.640 problems, poor personnel

01:01:41.920 and philosophical

01:01:42.820 incoherence, and that

01:01:44.540 these stem from the

01:01:45.340 same root, a withered

01:01:46.380 social base.

01:01:47.800 So that is the key.

01:01:49.900 He's talking about who

01:01:50.900 actually is a Tory

01:01:52.000 anymore, because they

01:01:53.620 used to have this

01:01:54.160 obvious group that were

01:01:55.180 just sort of the

01:01:56.240 natural Tories, and he's

01:01:57.700 saying they basically

01:01:58.240 don't exist anymore.

01:02:00.000 And he blames this.

01:02:02.180 Where's the thing?

01:02:02.800 The Tories, yeah, might

01:02:04.500 seem to have a deeper

01:02:05.220 historically rooted

01:02:05.940 philosophy, but in

01:02:06.580 practice, the old

01:02:07.200 rubrics about personal

01:02:08.060 responsibility, lower

01:02:08.760 taxes and smaller

01:02:09.420 state were not

01:02:10.280 reflected in the

01:02:10.780 party's actual records.

01:02:11.500 So they didn't

01:02:11.860 actually do the Tory

01:02:12.620 things, so that was a

01:02:13.840 big problem, but

01:02:15.660 they've also run out of

01:02:17.000 the ability to draw in

01:02:19.300 new candidates.

01:02:20.340 So he goes on to talk

01:02:21.100 about Pareto's

01:02:22.080 circulation of elites,

01:02:23.720 and you need to bring

01:02:24.880 in new talent.

01:02:25.980 Yeah, the old talent

01:02:26.600 has circulated out by

01:02:27.820 growing old and

01:02:28.600 passing away, but

01:02:30.040 they've not brought in

01:02:30.720 anyone new.

01:02:31.960 And then when

01:02:32.200 Kemi Badenoch, I

01:02:33.100 mean, do you remember

01:02:33.660 when Badenoch was

01:02:34.960 campaigning for the

01:02:35.600 leadership of the Tory

01:02:36.200 party?

01:02:36.680 Yeah.

01:02:37.020 You saw their face

01:02:38.000 going, oh yeah, this

01:02:38.620 is it, this is the

01:02:39.600 one, and it's like,

01:02:40.620 no, what she is, is a

01:02:42.860 brown woman who isn't

01:02:44.540 a left winger.

01:02:46.100 Yeah, and they love

01:02:46.660 that.

01:02:46.840 They're like, she

01:02:47.440 can't be attacked.

01:02:48.220 Like, what, the way

01:02:48.900 Soella Bravman and

01:02:49.600 Priti Patel weren't

01:02:50.260 attacked?

01:02:50.820 Of course she can be

01:02:51.400 attacked, Boomer.

01:02:52.220 What are you, morons?

01:02:53.220 I was Team Generic.

01:02:54.080 I might have told you,

01:02:54.580 I was even at a party

01:02:55.200 literally with Kemi

01:02:55.940 there, and I was

01:02:56.800 telling everyone I was

01:02:57.320 Team Generic.

01:02:58.220 Not that Generic's the

01:02:59.000 be-all-end-all, but he

01:02:59.760 would have been a

01:03:00.140 better choice.

01:03:01.260 So, he says, at the

01:03:02.760 same time, the Tories

01:03:03.380 losing sight of their

01:03:04.040 historical role as a

01:03:05.020 sectional interest, that's

01:03:06.100 the key thing, has led

01:03:07.220 them to neglecting to

01:03:07.980 maintain the social

01:03:09.060 processes which produce

01:03:10.420 Tories.

01:03:11.580 The unsurprising

01:03:12.220 consequence of which is

01:03:13.000 they've not produced,

01:03:14.420 have not been produced,

01:03:15.540 and Tory support amongst

01:03:16.340 younger generations has

01:03:17.160 collapsed.

01:03:18.140 So, they lack the new

01:03:20.400 people, they can't bring

01:03:21.640 them in.

01:03:21.980 Formal politics is a

01:03:22.740 struggle for power

01:03:23.340 between elites, elite

01:03:24.280 theory there, and a

01:03:25.080 sufficient stock of

01:03:25.880 suitable people is the

01:03:27.280 table stake.

01:03:28.240 Without it, all you can

01:03:28.880 do is shout.

01:03:29.380 So, they don't have

01:03:30.420 anyone, basically.

01:03:31.820 And yeah, he comes on

01:03:32.540 to this key thing, reform

01:03:33.880 could kill the Tories

01:03:34.700 but not replace them.

01:03:36.760 But, he's also saying

01:03:38.040 the Tories will have the

01:03:38.840 exact same problem.

01:03:40.300 And he, yeah, he just,

01:03:41.300 he says it's to do with,

01:03:42.460 a lot of it is to do with

01:03:43.240 a lack of entering into

01:03:45.040 cultural, the cultural

01:03:46.380 arena, and that they

01:03:48.100 haven't bothered developing

01:03:49.140 that side, which is

01:03:49.720 something we've talked

01:03:50.240 about loads, loads on the

01:03:52.220 Conservative side.

01:03:53.560 I'm just trying to find

01:03:54.140 the best quote of this.

01:03:56.620 He's saying that they

01:03:57.540 go into business because

01:03:59.000 there's money in it, but

01:04:00.280 they don't really go in

01:04:01.360 to other areas like the

01:04:03.340 arts.

01:04:04.060 He says there's no

01:04:04.680 shortage of money on the

01:04:05.580 right, but, hang on,

01:04:07.060 there's one bit before

01:04:08.020 that.

01:04:09.320 He talks about perhaps

01:04:10.500 too few right-wingers

01:04:11.420 attempt careers in

01:04:12.180 academia, publishing, or

01:04:13.360 the arts, but if so,

01:04:14.200 part of the reason must be

01:04:15.100 plausible expectation that

01:04:16.940 they would struggle either

01:04:18.100 to build any sort of

01:04:18.880 career in them or pursue

01:04:19.700 projects aligned to their

01:04:21.260 unfashionable values.

01:04:21.960 Well, yeah, of course.

01:04:22.840 And he underplays this bit

01:04:23.880 massively.

01:04:24.460 He talks about how the

01:04:25.260 left ends up taking over

01:04:26.060 these institutions.

01:04:26.660 Then there's this ambient

01:04:27.940 moral pressure, which

01:04:28.880 pushes everything left.

01:04:30.000 But to me, he undersells

01:04:31.060 this because it's like,

01:04:31.840 of course, in any of the

01:04:33.340 arts, in academia, in

01:04:34.320 comedy, in music, whatever

01:04:35.720 it is, you're completely,

01:04:37.120 you're not allowed

01:04:37.380 publishing, you're not

01:04:38.420 allowed in any of it.

01:04:39.220 So he slightly underplays

01:04:40.360 that, but at least he makes

01:04:41.160 the point.

01:04:41.740 And lastly, he makes the

01:04:43.500 point about the funding

01:04:44.400 because he says there's no

01:04:45.740 shortage of money on the

01:04:46.480 right, but right-wing

01:04:47.940 donors have shown little

01:04:48.860 interest in funding

01:04:49.760 cultural institutions, nor

01:04:51.200 right-wing politicians, in

01:04:52.160 defunding them.

01:04:53.200 And this is a massive

01:04:53.940 problem.

01:04:54.140 I mean, you get these

01:04:55.020 right-wing sort of

01:04:55.820 billionaires, I'll give you

01:04:56.680 a tenner, but they won't

01:04:58.480 get anything like...

01:04:59.220 Where can I get my

01:04:59.760 tenner from a right-wing

01:05:00.420 billionaire?

01:05:00.440 Get a tenner, but you

01:05:00.840 don't get anything like...

01:05:02.220 Well, there was one that

01:05:02.880 I knew, but then I

01:05:03.680 alienated them with a

01:05:04.640 satirical article and got

01:05:05.660 black balls completely

01:05:06.400 forever.

01:05:07.040 So there's never...

01:05:07.920 And they don't give it

01:05:08.640 enough money compared to

01:05:09.780 the left.

01:05:10.380 And Curtis Jarvan had

01:05:11.240 talked about this recently

01:05:11.980 in a tweet, and I can

01:05:13.220 read part of it.

01:05:14.260 He says, conservative

01:05:14.880 billionaires be like,

01:05:16.020 freedom of speech will

01:05:16.880 solve it.

01:05:17.380 We'll just have a big

01:05:18.100 New England town hall, but

01:05:19.360 on the internet, and

01:05:20.320 reason will prevail.

01:05:21.400 You haven't lived till

01:05:22.140 you've had to nag a

01:05:22.840 billionaire to pay a

01:05:23.540 $5,000 research tab to

01:05:25.400 some broke grad student

01:05:26.600 seriously.

01:05:27.660 And he went on, and it

01:05:28.400 was a fairly controversial

01:05:29.160 one later where he said

01:05:30.060 they were something rich

01:05:31.440 that I won't say, but...

01:05:32.900 Yeah.

01:05:33.220 But you get the idea.

01:05:34.460 He's saying that they

01:05:35.140 don't give out money in

01:05:37.220 the same way.

01:05:38.360 It's really weird, isn't

01:05:39.100 it?

01:05:39.200 What do they do with

01:05:39.820 their money?

01:05:41.100 We know what the left

01:05:41.940 does with their money.

01:05:42.560 They spend their money

01:05:43.340 on society, making it

01:05:44.800 left-wing.

01:05:45.640 What's the right-wing

01:05:46.780 billionaire do?

01:05:47.260 They're on yachts with

01:05:48.220 Andrew Tate.

01:05:48.860 I guess they must be.

01:05:49.740 What is going on?

01:05:51.580 Yeah, I know.

01:05:52.800 So I think Hill makes a

01:05:54.040 compelling case there

01:05:54.860 that actually the Tories

01:05:55.940 are...

01:05:56.460 Reform might replace the

01:05:58.120 Tories and kill them

01:05:58.860 off, but then they're no

01:05:59.920 good themselves.

01:06:00.880 The Tories have all the

01:06:01.580 same problems.

01:06:02.480 They don't even have

01:06:03.080 this institutional heft

01:06:04.340 anymore.

01:06:05.000 They don't represent a

01:06:05.640 particular section of

01:06:06.220 society, but nor do

01:06:07.260 reform.

01:06:08.280 Quite interesting.

01:06:08.840 But, of course, the

01:06:09.480 obvious sort of subtext

01:06:10.420 with all of this is that

01:06:11.080 we need to offer

01:06:13.000 something else, and

01:06:13.860 that's what Restore

01:06:15.100 Britain can do.

01:06:16.260 And I forgot to add

01:06:16.860 these asides.

01:06:17.340 I just read the bloody

01:06:18.020 thing.

01:06:18.180 But things like

01:06:19.980 Restore with Rupert

01:06:20.880 Lowe, the whole point

01:06:21.620 is to address this

01:06:22.700 imbalance.

01:06:23.480 Smart young people like

01:06:24.240 Charlie Downs, Harrison

01:06:25.260 Pitt, et al.

01:06:26.400 They're presumably there

01:06:27.240 to shape this vision and

01:06:29.700 to figure out what is

01:06:30.940 that section of society.

01:06:32.360 People are incredibly

01:06:33.040 angry, but he's saying

01:06:34.660 that that anger is not

01:06:35.680 really being harnessed as

01:06:37.540 a coherent social force,

01:06:39.680 even though the anger's

01:06:40.720 there and it's sort of

01:06:41.380 waiting.

01:06:42.100 So that's what we...

01:06:42.960 It's waiting for

01:06:43.380 representation, I agree.

01:06:44.560 No, I completely agree.

01:06:46.940 There's nothing on the

01:06:47.520 horizon.

01:06:48.180 But I mean, I've heard

01:06:49.360 from people close to

01:06:51.500 these things, the

01:06:52.960 Conservative Party has

01:06:53.860 basically collapsed from

01:06:54.740 within, and that they've

01:06:55.960 lost loads of branches.

01:06:58.020 There's basically no

01:06:58.660 grassroots Conservatives

01:06:59.740 anymore.

01:07:01.160 Their donors are drying

01:07:02.000 up, and it's like...

01:07:02.940 Yeah, the comms, this

01:07:04.360 so-called monolithic

01:07:05.820 CCHQ is down to two

01:07:07.340 staff on comms.

01:07:08.680 Yeah.

01:07:08.820 I picture like an old

01:07:09.960 coffee machine, a dog,

01:07:11.540 like an old dog, and

01:07:13.120 the Leeds HQ is shutting

01:07:14.620 down.

01:07:15.300 Yeah.

01:07:15.560 It was all in that piece

01:07:16.300 on Kemi that, yeah,

01:07:17.260 they're running out of

01:07:17.780 money because who's going

01:07:18.500 to fund them?

01:07:19.520 Yeah, why would you

01:07:20.060 want to?

01:07:20.440 Who cares?

01:07:21.080 They're like fourth in

01:07:22.320 the polls or something

01:07:23.120 now.

01:07:23.720 They're like, you know,

01:07:24.440 running Lib Dem numbers.

01:07:26.440 So it's like...

01:07:27.760 I mean, they're going to

01:07:28.580 get waxed in the next

01:07:29.640 election as well.

01:07:30.720 Yeah.

01:07:31.580 Well, that's why Hitchin

01:07:32.400 says, though, you've got to

01:07:33.480 vote for them anyway.

01:07:35.200 Why?

01:07:36.880 I don't know.

01:07:37.560 I think he's right that

01:07:40.000 they're screwed, but I

01:07:41.340 don't think they're

01:07:42.260 savable at this point.

01:07:43.980 It would have to be

01:07:44.460 something monumental.

01:07:46.300 No, I mean, even I

01:07:46.980 wrote, to be fair to

01:07:47.880 Mr. Hitchin, even I

01:07:49.200 wrote a provocative

01:07:49.760 piece saying, maybe I'll

01:07:50.740 vote Tory for the first

01:07:51.420 time ever.

01:07:51.720 It was a piece about how

01:07:52.620 Farage has gone to the

01:07:53.440 left of Jenrick.

01:07:54.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:54.900 But even since then,

01:07:55.580 I'm like, they've just

01:07:56.780 fallen apart.

01:07:57.740 They've got nothing.

01:07:58.840 Yeah, I mean, like,

01:08:00.820 there's...

01:08:01.480 What would be the

01:08:03.480 point?

01:08:04.600 Right.

01:08:05.060 But can you vote

01:08:05.580 reform either?

01:08:06.240 You know, they just

01:08:06.920 keep...

01:08:07.240 saying all the wrong

01:08:08.640 things.

01:08:09.220 I'm not a fan of the

01:08:10.060 idea of voting for

01:08:10.760 reform.

01:08:11.400 I mean, it looks like

01:08:11.860 they won't need us to

01:08:12.740 vote reform, to be

01:08:13.460 honest.

01:08:13.540 They don't seem to

01:08:13.900 want us, do they?

01:08:14.440 They keep signaling

01:08:15.140 against them at every

01:08:15.900 opportunity.

01:08:16.460 Those right-wingers,

01:08:17.260 they can piss off.

01:08:18.060 They may as well have

01:08:19.000 a picture of you,

01:08:19.520 your face just crossed

01:08:20.360 out.

01:08:20.840 Yeah, I know.

01:08:22.660 It's like, okay, bro.

01:08:24.740 But this is Farage's

01:08:25.580 point.

01:08:25.820 He is right that, you

01:08:26.820 know, he cuts down

01:08:27.760 everyone who even

01:08:29.280 vaguely seems to

01:08:30.060 challenge him, which

01:08:30.660 has left him like the

01:08:31.980 supervillain being like,

01:08:32.820 why am I surrounded

01:08:33.380 by idiots?

01:08:33.980 It's like, well, I

01:08:35.140 wonder why.

01:08:35.840 Anyway, let's go to

01:08:37.480 the video comments.

01:08:47.040 I spent a brief time

01:08:48.020 researching Friedrich,

01:08:48.960 or Fritz, Rook,

01:08:49.880 although most of the

01:08:50.520 information about him

01:08:51.160 is in German, which I

01:08:51.940 can't read, or French,

01:08:52.900 which I can read, but I

01:08:53.720 won't on principle.

01:08:54.760 He was an author and a

01:08:55.520 poet, but he was mostly

01:08:56.340 known for his political

01:08:57.000 activism.

01:08:57.760 Specifically, he was a

01:08:58.580 Marxist socialist, and

01:08:59.520 he both wrote and edited

01:09:00.440 a number of left-wing

01:09:01.220 papers across Germany, and

01:09:02.500 partook in the 1918-1919

01:09:04.320 German revolution as a

01:09:05.480 Spartacist organiser.

01:09:06.840 You might wonder why a

01:09:07.600 signed book of his

01:09:08.240 poetry and a biography

01:09:09.100 is sitting in a house

01:09:09.900 in Ohio, while Fritz

01:09:11.760 Rook is my girlfriend's

01:09:12.920 great-grandfather.

01:09:14.180 Is it too harsh to tell

01:09:15.120 her how much I support

01:09:15.800 the 1919 Free Corps?

01:09:20.400 That's interesting.

01:09:24.420 Okay, let's go to the

01:09:25.300 next one.

01:09:27.800 But, like, Spider-Man

01:09:29.180 and Dr. Octopus actually

01:09:30.180 feel that the train, if the

01:09:31.060 train hits you, yeah,

01:09:32.360 that's gonna, you're gonna

01:09:33.260 be like an Indian, though.

01:09:34.340 You know, you're in

01:09:34.840 trouble.

01:09:35.100 Bollywood's level.

01:09:59.300 Aggressively loud.

01:10:00.380 Possibility, yeah.

01:10:01.200 We are actually doing

01:10:02.200 Spider-Man 3 after the

01:10:03.400 podcast, so tune in for

01:10:05.020 that.

01:10:05.880 Let's go to the next

01:10:06.480 one.

01:10:06.720 AI was just a mistake.

01:10:31.320 I'm just anti-AI after

01:10:40.600 watching all of this.

01:10:42.140 All right.

01:10:43.320 Electric Boogaloo for the

01:10:44.660 first segment says, I

01:10:45.920 assume they were filming

01:10:46.580 because the guy was acting

01:10:47.900 out prior to the stabbing.

01:10:49.160 Maybe.

01:10:49.780 And I can only imagine.

01:10:50.880 But the thing is, the cops

01:10:52.060 are just, like, walking away

01:10:52.980 from him.

01:10:53.560 Like, there's no, it's no

01:10:54.860 big deal.

01:10:55.700 So, I don't know.

01:10:58.460 Anne says, I find it so odd

01:10:59.920 that the, they said the

01:11:00.900 victim, the guard who was

01:11:02.040 stabbed, would be offered

01:11:03.240 full welfare benefits.

01:11:04.880 Welfare?

01:11:05.640 Does this mean they're going

01:11:06.380 to provide a house for him?

01:11:07.600 Or does it take getting

01:11:08.280 stabbed to get free housing

01:11:09.240 for citizens of Ireland?

01:11:11.100 Well, I mean, that would be

01:11:12.000 a step up from getting told

01:11:13.680 to get stuffed, which is

01:11:15.420 what happens to victims

01:11:16.540 over here.

01:11:18.000 Arizona Desert Rat says,

01:11:19.260 I'm curious as to how the

01:11:20.260 Irish government plans on

01:11:21.180 enforcing laws regarding

01:11:22.220 kitchen knives.

01:11:23.300 Are they going to start

01:11:23.940 kicking in front doors to

01:11:25.000 search kitchens for

01:11:25.820 unregistered knives over two

01:11:26.880 inches?

01:11:27.740 Well, this is the point,

01:11:28.720 isn't it?

01:11:29.040 You know, they've got

01:11:29.540 nowhere to go now but

01:11:30.600 try and pacify society.

01:11:32.660 But this, this is just

01:11:33.800 the nature of what it is

01:11:34.960 to be a multicultural

01:11:35.720 society.

01:11:36.760 You've got to do it.

01:11:38.000 Yep.

01:11:38.680 You've got to have a nice

01:11:39.320 safe stabbing.

01:11:40.320 Aren't you reassured?

01:11:41.740 Has anyone commented on

01:11:42.540 the reassuring official

01:11:44.020 stab vest?

01:11:44.920 I haven't got it.

01:11:45.260 The only way, there are

01:11:46.840 only two scenarios in this.

01:11:48.500 It's, you either have a

01:11:50.320 Leviathan state that

01:11:52.080 polices the vastly

01:11:54.680 incompatible different

01:11:57.100 groups or you have one

01:11:58.800 group just destroying

01:12:00.980 the others.

01:12:01.560 Yeah.

01:12:02.340 Yeah.

01:12:02.660 It's all, it's all

01:12:03.380 Singapore, isn't it?

01:12:04.220 It's all, I always come

01:12:05.160 back to Lee Kuan Yew, he

01:12:06.080 saw our high trust society

01:12:07.600 paying for the newspaper,

01:12:09.120 leaving it, all that kind

01:12:09.920 of thing.

01:12:10.220 He said, right, we can

01:12:11.300 never have that.

01:12:11.980 It's set by force and

01:12:13.060 authoritarianism.

01:12:13.880 So we'll have to do it.

01:12:14.760 Once you have all these

01:12:15.360 different people in

01:12:16.700 authoritarianism is

01:12:17.760 inevitable.

01:12:18.620 Yeah.

01:12:19.480 Discuss.

01:12:20.080 I mean, he, he, he was

01:12:21.460 just explicit about this.

01:12:23.420 Yeah.

01:12:24.280 Yes.

01:12:24.680 I have a multi, multi

01:12:26.200 ethnic state.

01:12:27.360 Therefore, it's going to

01:12:28.380 be a tyranny.

01:12:29.340 And even, and their

01:12:30.260 ethnic right now was

01:12:30.920 just three major groups.

01:12:32.340 Yeah.

01:12:32.640 Far less crazy than

01:12:34.220 ours.

01:12:34.660 Yeah.

01:12:34.840 Far less distance

01:12:35.800 between them, right?

01:12:37.220 Yeah.

01:12:38.380 Hector says, the woman

01:12:39.660 coming in to stop the

01:12:40.540 police officer tells you

01:12:41.540 everything you need to

01:12:42.120 know about the left and

01:12:42.820 the West.

01:12:43.800 Yeah.

01:12:44.220 It's, it's really bad.

01:12:46.800 And it's so

01:12:47.820 insufferable as well.

01:12:48.640 It's like, look, these

01:12:49.380 are police officers.

01:12:50.200 If they're clubbing

01:12:52.060 some guy on the

01:12:52.960 street, there's

01:12:53.640 probably a reason for

01:12:54.980 it.

01:12:56.100 I've just been drunk.

01:12:56.920 She looked like she

01:12:57.340 was kind of like

01:12:57.940 wandering about to

01:12:59.280 me.

01:12:59.540 Like, you know

01:13:00.480 me like, I'm not

01:13:02.220 saying drunk because

01:13:02.760 she's Irish in the

01:13:04.160 day in the, in the

01:13:04.880 street.

01:13:05.460 Just let's make that

01:13:06.140 very clear.

01:13:07.360 I'm not saying that

01:13:08.260 at all.

01:13:09.520 Chance says, join

01:13:10.480 stab proof plus

01:13:11.360 every month you get

01:13:12.020 one new shiny

01:13:12.620 official stab

01:13:13.320 proof STM

01:13:14.180 guaranteed to block

01:13:15.280 one wild machete

01:13:16.740 swing from any rogue

01:13:17.620 newcomer.

01:13:18.600 Asterisk some

01:13:19.140 exceptions.

01:13:20.200 Stay stab

01:13:21.000 free or your

01:13:21.520 money back.

01:13:22.640 Man, this is, this

01:13:23.280 is, I just hate

01:13:24.460 everything about the

01:13:25.680 modern world that's

01:13:27.340 being constructed

01:13:28.000 around us.

01:13:28.840 I just hate, I

01:13:30.180 mean, I say it

01:13:31.100 enough.

01:13:31.940 I just hate all of

01:13:33.220 it.

01:13:33.380 It's just, it's the

01:13:34.900 bureaucracy.

01:13:35.800 It's the damage

01:13:36.940 that's done to

01:13:37.440 society.

01:13:37.920 It's the fact that

01:13:38.500 this is just a

01:13:39.300 normal part of

01:13:39.900 life.

01:13:40.540 It's like the guy

01:13:41.120 who ran that kid

01:13:42.200 over the other day

01:13:42.980 in Birmingham or

01:13:43.860 Manchester it was

01:13:44.640 because someone was

01:13:45.780 getting macheted or

01:13:46.540 something.

01:13:46.780 I'm like, this is

01:13:47.860 going to happen.

01:13:48.340 This is going to

01:13:48.940 happen more often, man.

01:13:50.380 People are just

01:13:51.060 like, you know

01:13:51.360 what, I've had

01:13:51.660 enough.

01:13:52.480 But they hate that

01:13:53.400 the most, don't

01:13:54.280 they?

01:13:54.520 It might have been

01:13:55.120 Hitchens I was

01:13:55.580 listening to saying

01:13:56.200 that today.

01:13:57.160 They hate that the

01:13:57.940 most when you take

01:13:58.720 it into your own

01:13:59.520 hands because they

01:14:00.120 go, no, no, no,

01:14:00.660 we have a monopoly on

01:14:01.860 that, but we're not

01:14:02.820 going to do anything.

01:14:03.540 How about that?

01:14:04.680 We're not going to

01:14:05.200 stop the robbers or

01:14:05.920 the criminals, but if

01:14:06.560 you do, you're in

01:14:07.720 trouble.

01:14:08.120 We're going to get

01:14:08.880 them afterwards.

01:14:09.880 He actually said

01:14:10.840 that about the

01:14:11.300 disgraceful Southport

01:14:12.280 rioters or something,

01:14:13.260 and it's like, man.

01:14:15.760 I didn't like that bit.

01:14:16.460 And we're not going

01:14:17.240 to punish them.

01:14:18.420 Yeah.

01:14:18.800 Yeah.

01:14:19.520 Omar says, while I'm

01:14:21.100 sure there's an

01:14:21.520 unhealthy dose of

01:14:22.180 brainwashing involved,

01:14:23.300 there's almost an

01:14:23.840 instinctual impulse in

01:14:24.740 women to intervene in

01:14:25.760 violence.

01:14:26.520 People who don't know

01:14:27.340 how to deal with

01:14:27.860 violence think it ends

01:14:28.720 when he's on the

01:14:29.240 floor and that

01:14:29.660 dishonorable men

01:14:30.420 wouldn't pretend to

01:14:31.180 submit.

01:14:32.100 Yeah, exactly.

01:14:35.100 David says, have you

01:14:36.160 considered that

01:14:36.660 Allah Akbar is

01:14:37.560 Irish Gaelic for

01:14:38.400 it's just a prank,

01:14:39.220 bro?

01:14:40.040 Interesting.

01:14:41.060 Well, I mean, it

01:14:41.500 does sound Irish.

01:14:43.060 White Rider says,

01:14:44.160 Cambodia sounds

01:14:44.760 really whiny.

01:14:45.960 Boo-hoo, we lost

01:14:46.680 territory during

01:14:47.340 historical wars

01:14:48.020 because we were

01:14:48.480 weak.

01:14:49.200 Why tell the UN to

01:14:50.140 give it back?

01:14:51.100 Well, I mean, I

01:14:51.680 don't know anything

01:14:52.740 about these things.

01:14:53.980 I don't know

01:14:54.460 anything about

01:14:54.720 Cambodia.

01:14:55.480 I think that's a

01:14:55.920 correct summary.

01:14:56.560 I don't know why

01:14:56.860 Stelhoff didn't just

01:14:57.600 say that, to be

01:14:58.280 fair.

01:14:58.400 Yeah.

01:14:58.860 Josh says,

01:14:59.380 Cambodia and

01:14:59.860 Thailand are

01:15:00.320 fighting the 7-11

01:15:01.160 wars because that

01:15:02.500 gas station was one

01:15:03.220 of the first civilian

01:15:03.860 infrastructure hit.

01:15:06.100 Yeah.

01:15:07.620 Okay.

01:15:07.980 Does Cambodia

01:15:10.640 have an air force?

01:15:12.420 Right.

01:15:12.900 So I've seen that

01:15:13.940 it technically

01:15:14.640 has, but it's

01:15:16.440 just non-existent

01:15:19.200 and also their

01:15:19.900 tanks are Mao's

01:15:21.840 tanks that he

01:15:23.080 sold them, whereas

01:15:24.160 the Thai have

01:15:25.060 modern tanks.

01:15:25.840 Right, right,

01:15:26.260 right.

01:15:26.500 Also modern F-16s.

01:15:28.720 Yeah, because

01:15:29.460 Hector's pointing

01:15:30.060 out, well, Thailand

01:15:31.200 has an air force.

01:15:33.760 Yeah, they do have

01:15:34.420 an air force and

01:15:35.040 they bombed the

01:15:36.340 the SHIT out

01:15:39.160 of some targets

01:15:39.940 in Cambodia.

01:15:42.940 Michael says,

01:15:43.980 we should be

01:15:44.760 surprised that an

01:15:45.420 English politician

01:15:46.020 has a reading

01:15:46.480 comprehension of an

01:15:47.140 eight-year-old.

01:15:48.000 Jeremy Corbyn barely

01:15:48.800 passed out of

01:15:49.360 secondary school,

01:15:50.120 so it seems there's

01:15:50.760 a pattern of low

01:15:51.440 IQ, at least in

01:15:52.260 labor.

01:15:53.180 Okay, I'm going

01:15:53.620 to look that up.

01:15:56.220 What are Jeremy

01:15:58.460 Corbyn's qualifications?

01:16:02.740 What are his?

01:16:04.020 What are his

01:16:04.620 qualifications?

01:16:05.120 I'm genuinely

01:16:07.140 curious about

01:16:07.660 those.

01:16:09.040 He left school

01:16:10.480 at 18 with two

01:16:11.240 A-levels, both

01:16:11.860 at grade E, the

01:16:13.220 lowest passing

01:16:13.840 grade.

01:16:16.620 He began a

01:16:18.880 certificate at the

01:16:19.840 North London

01:16:20.360 Polytechnic in

01:16:21.740 trade union

01:16:22.340 studies, but left

01:16:23.220 after a year

01:16:23.860 without completing

01:16:24.460 the course.

01:16:25.540 If you scroll

01:16:26.520 down on the

01:16:27.160 signature section,

01:16:28.300 probably he's

01:16:28.980 going to put an

01:16:29.500 X.

01:16:32.360 He's done no

01:16:33.420 post-school work.

01:16:34.420 He has no

01:16:34.880 degree, no

01:16:35.400 practical

01:16:35.700 experience.

01:16:37.680 I'm like Corbyn.

01:16:38.580 It is Corbyn.

01:16:39.840 I was looking

01:16:40.860 about like,

01:16:41.840 does Jeremy

01:16:42.280 here?

01:16:43.160 I was going

01:16:43.780 out.

01:16:44.740 But I like the

01:16:45.300 way you're like,

01:16:45.660 oh yeah, that

01:16:46.000 sounds like

01:16:46.340 Corbyn.

01:16:46.580 Yeah, it is.

01:16:48.120 Sorry, there

01:16:48.620 are some other

01:16:48.960 comments I didn't

01:16:49.620 get to at all.

01:16:52.620 Dan's video

01:16:53.080 yesterday, the UK

01:16:53.780 government forcing

01:16:54.460 citizens to go

01:16:55.060 through humiliation

01:16:55.920 rituals, was

01:16:56.920 honestly one of the

01:16:57.440 most blackpilling

01:16:58.000 videos I've seen

01:16:58.680 for a long time.

01:16:59.180 Yeah, I know, I

01:17:00.120 watched about a

01:17:00.900 third of it, and

01:17:01.680 I was like, you

01:17:02.120 know, I've just

01:17:02.460 got to click off,

01:17:03.080 this is depressing,

01:17:04.560 but it is true,

01:17:06.140 that's the problem.

01:17:07.360 Scott says,

01:17:07.960 anyone consider

01:17:08.700 that he secretly

01:17:09.300 has a black

01:17:11.300 marijuana empire

01:17:12.340 and doesn't want

01:17:13.160 the competition?

01:17:14.920 No.

01:17:16.320 So Twitter

01:17:17.020 banned Gab

01:17:17.940 AI account last

01:17:18.900 night and banned

01:17:19.520 everyone following

01:17:20.400 it for spam and

01:17:21.740 platform manipulation.

01:17:23.300 I got caught up in

01:17:24.120 it and would

01:17:24.420 appreciate someone

01:17:25.140 bringing attention

01:17:25.680 to it.

01:17:25.980 What's this?

01:17:27.920 Well, I know Gab

01:17:28.860 has been in trouble

01:17:29.540 with the online,

01:17:30.380 well, I don't know

01:17:31.200 if they, they've

01:17:31.780 made a statement

01:17:32.200 about the online

01:17:32.700 safety act, didn't

01:17:33.360 they?

01:17:33.540 And didn't they

01:17:33.900 say they weren't

01:17:34.340 going to do stuff

01:17:34.940 in Britain, but I

01:17:35.540 didn't know about

01:17:35.880 the AI.

01:17:36.640 Right, okay.

01:17:37.340 I didn't know that

01:17:38.000 Gab AI had been

01:17:38.740 banned.

01:17:41.780 Oh, wow, yeah.

01:17:42.700 I mean, you

01:17:43.600 perma-ban an AI,

01:17:45.320 which is a good

01:17:46.280 start, I suppose,

01:17:47.100 but, right.

01:17:49.660 So, okay,

01:17:50.920 interesting.

01:17:52.380 Gab AI has

01:17:53.780 some, what I

01:17:54.620 guess would call

01:17:55.000 revisionist takes

01:17:55.820 on the Nazis.

01:17:57.300 So, 130 to

01:18:00.080 160 minimum IQ,

01:18:01.520 bare minimum

01:18:01.940 qualification to

01:18:02.640 be a politician.

01:18:03.600 Well, we're not

01:18:04.000 going to have very

01:18:04.360 many politicians

01:18:05.040 if that's the

01:18:05.540 case.

01:18:05.860 I got a 137 on

01:18:06.940 a Mensa app,

01:18:07.560 so I'd scrape

01:18:08.080 in, at least on

01:18:10.040 that day.

01:18:10.600 If I'm tired,

01:18:11.780 I might not get

01:18:13.200 out on the other

01:18:13.700 days.

01:18:13.940 Actually, it's

01:18:14.380 like a stock.

01:18:15.540 Yeah, it's the

01:18:16.560 shapes that get me

01:18:17.320 when I'm tired

01:18:17.840 and the numbers.

01:18:19.020 The public will

01:18:19.560 mass buy stab

01:18:20.200 vests and the

01:18:20.740 government will

01:18:21.100 put in a ban

01:18:21.680 in public wearing

01:18:22.760 stab vests in

01:18:23.420 public.

01:18:24.200 Sightings of the

01:18:24.760 vest,

01:18:25.020 will encourage

01:18:26.840 more stabbings.

01:18:27.860 Almost a

01:18:28.200 Monty Python

01:18:28.640 sketch.

01:18:29.540 Yeah, it's

01:18:30.560 ridiculous.

01:18:32.800 And holiday in

01:18:33.580 Cambodia takes

01:18:34.280 on a very

01:18:34.900 different meaning

01:18:35.340 this summer.

01:18:37.780 Anyway,

01:18:39.140 Michael says,

01:18:42.040 no, that's the

01:18:42.740 one I read.

01:18:43.180 Twomath says,

01:18:45.440 on Hitchens

01:18:46.400 trying to save

01:18:47.060 the Tories

01:18:47.400 again,

01:18:48.180 this is just

01:18:48.640 one old

01:18:49.020 moderate Marxist

01:18:49.840 trying to reason

01:18:50.380 with a group

01:18:50.720 of moderate

01:18:51.100 Marxists who

01:18:52.160 are unaware

01:18:52.420 that they are

01:18:53.280 indeed these

01:18:53.820 moderate Marxists.

01:18:55.180 Whatever is said

01:18:55.800 will not be heard

01:18:56.440 for the generation

01:18:57.140 gap in Marxist

01:18:57.820 thought cannot be

01:18:58.320 crossed.

01:18:59.140 It can only

01:18:59.580 further propagate

01:19:00.400 it towards

01:19:00.780 annihilation.

01:19:01.720 Now, Pete Hitchens

01:19:02.720 isn't a Marxist.

01:19:03.820 He used to be a

01:19:04.580 Marxist.

01:19:06.320 And so I think

01:19:07.160 he would definitely

01:19:07.580 take exception by

01:19:08.360 you calling him

01:19:09.180 a Marxist.

01:19:10.420 But he is still

01:19:11.460 a boomer.

01:19:12.520 And so he views

01:19:14.200 the Tories as part

01:19:15.240 of the old world

01:19:15.960 that he doesn't

01:19:16.360 want to let go,

01:19:16.880 I think.

01:19:17.820 He would say,

01:19:18.400 I understand how

01:19:19.180 these people work.

01:19:19.880 I used to be one

01:19:20.540 of them, remember?

01:19:21.340 It's a lot worse

01:19:22.060 than you think.

01:19:22.660 He always talks

01:19:23.100 about it.

01:19:23.500 Oh, it's not worse

01:19:24.240 than I think, Peter.

01:19:24.820 Yeah, yeah,

01:19:25.160 but he always talks

01:19:25.620 about it.

01:19:25.920 And Starmer being

01:19:26.680 a Pabloite.

01:19:27.700 I always wonder

01:19:28.160 with Starmer how

01:19:28.820 influenced he is

01:19:29.400 by his far-left

01:19:30.260 background.

01:19:31.540 It's hard to tell,

01:19:32.400 isn't it?

01:19:32.820 Because he's all

01:19:33.380 over the matter.

01:19:33.720 I just don't think

01:19:34.160 he thinks.

01:19:34.720 The things I've

01:19:36.560 heard in universities,

01:19:38.580 because I was

01:19:39.480 working at universities

01:19:41.220 before,

01:19:42.100 was lecturing,

01:19:42.960 but the things

01:19:44.040 you hear coming

01:19:45.280 from leftists

01:19:46.320 are just shocking.

01:19:48.240 Yeah.

01:19:49.360 They cross.

01:19:50.220 Your students.

01:19:51.620 What?

01:19:51.980 But they're your

01:19:52.340 students.

01:19:52.980 Some of them.

01:19:53.440 You have to correct them.

01:19:54.080 No, yeah.

01:19:55.940 Yeah.

01:19:56.640 So a lot of people

01:19:57.680 in the comments

01:19:58.080 are like,

01:19:58.600 quoting Peter,

01:20:00.240 you cannot compel

01:20:01.140 the Tory party

01:20:01.940 to be what you

01:20:02.600 want it to be.

01:20:03.680 Well, isn't that

01:20:04.420 a good reason

01:20:04.880 to destroy it then?

01:20:07.400 Yes.

01:20:08.460 There is certainly

01:20:09.280 that case.

01:20:10.140 Yeah, he was saying

01:20:11.120 you can't,

01:20:11.860 his point there though

01:20:12.700 in context was

01:20:13.440 you can't punish it.

01:20:14.780 So there's no point

01:20:15.760 thinking you can,

01:20:16.960 by punishing it,

01:20:18.400 make it behave

01:20:19.400 a certain different way.

01:20:20.700 But what he's,

01:20:21.540 like, in the Middle Ages,

01:20:23.060 the French used to put

01:20:24.120 animals on trial

01:20:25.180 and then they would

01:20:26.860 execute them

01:20:27.480 or put them in jail

01:20:28.120 or something.

01:20:28.860 This happened repeatedly.

01:20:30.560 Like, and,

01:20:31.440 I mean,

01:20:32.340 that's literally him

01:20:33.080 being like,

01:20:33.460 well, look,

01:20:33.720 you can't compel it

01:20:35.060 what you want it to be

01:20:36.100 because it doesn't

01:20:37.060 understand.

01:20:37.500 It's like, okay,

01:20:37.800 but that means

01:20:38.780 you just kill it.

01:20:39.620 Like, when the English

01:20:40.280 had like an animal

01:20:41.080 that was, you know,

01:20:42.180 wolf or whatever,

01:20:43.040 would you just kill it?

01:20:44.020 Well, it's, yes,

01:20:44.940 you can't compel it

01:20:45.640 to be what you,

01:20:46.240 what you want it to be.

01:20:47.560 On the other hand,

01:20:48.120 it's the only feeble

01:20:49.020 obstacles to the forces

01:20:49.940 of the active idiot left.

01:20:50.980 So, again,

01:20:51.720 he's going with that.

01:20:52.820 You can't,

01:20:53.420 it's going to do

01:20:53.900 what it wants.

01:20:54.320 It's not going to do

01:20:55.140 what you want.

01:20:55.580 It's not conservative.

01:20:56.380 It's crap.

01:20:57.180 But it's still better

01:20:57.980 than the left

01:20:58.400 is where he always ends up.

01:20:59.680 I think it's too late

01:21:00.640 for that.

01:21:01.180 I think it's like,

01:21:01.940 once they followed,

01:21:02.680 once they followed all,

01:21:04.660 I was looking at David Starkey

01:21:05.560 about this on a forthcoming podcast.

01:21:06.860 Once they follow all the,

01:21:08.740 everything the left was doing,

01:21:10.260 which was Treason May,

01:21:11.920 Cameron,

01:21:13.020 Boris in other ways,

01:21:14.360 Sue,

01:21:14.600 they've all just followed it.

01:21:16.560 So what,

01:21:16.920 so therefore,

01:21:17.600 yes,

01:21:17.920 there is no distinction.

01:21:19.100 No.

01:21:19.640 Very serious people

01:21:20.380 like Starkey

01:21:20.900 and I was saying that.

01:21:21.720 So, you know,

01:21:22.640 what is the point

01:21:23.800 of that,

01:21:24.140 of the choice?

01:21:25.100 He probably still thinks

01:21:25.740 they can be changed.

01:21:26.360 He's still a member of Starkey,

01:21:27.360 but obviously Hitchin still.

01:21:28.660 Shocked they haven't

01:21:29.180 kicked him out,

01:21:29.680 frankly.

01:21:30.720 But the,

01:21:31.460 the point is,

01:21:33.420 how is it then

01:21:34.320 that Tony Blair

01:21:35.440 was able to compel

01:21:36.360 the Tory party

01:21:37.100 to become what

01:21:37.660 he wanted it to be?

01:21:39.080 Yes,

01:21:39.460 although Thatcher

01:21:40.160 called Blair

01:21:41.220 her best creation.

01:21:42.320 Right.

01:21:42.560 So,

01:21:42.860 so they were,

01:21:43.760 they were kind of

01:21:44.700 in lockstep,

01:21:45.340 you could say.

01:21:45.860 Thatcher changed

01:21:46.760 the game,

01:21:47.980 Blair copied her,

01:21:48.980 then Cameron copied him,

01:21:50.340 calling himself the heir

01:21:51.060 to Blair famously.

01:21:52.300 And that's what we have.

01:21:52.900 You've talked about it loads,

01:21:53.680 the Blairite paradigm.

01:21:54.720 Yeah.

01:21:55.600 But was,

01:21:56.400 but Blair was definitely

01:21:57.120 accelerating and massively

01:21:58.140 changing Thatcher's program.

01:21:59.400 So that is true.

01:22:00.440 I suppose the answer is

01:22:01.120 he was just smarter about it.

01:22:02.680 He was,

01:22:03.040 he had the vision,

01:22:03.700 he had the will,

01:22:04.640 he had the sort of

01:22:05.180 great man of history,

01:22:06.220 Carlisle thing,

01:22:07.500 and was just able to

01:22:08.320 be more effective

01:22:09.180 in doing it,

01:22:10.020 right?

01:22:10.460 Well,

01:22:10.740 he's,

01:22:11.100 so we're waiting for maybe

01:22:11.980 a great man

01:22:12.920 along those lines.

01:22:14.400 So,

01:22:14.620 so great man

01:22:15.440 in very,

01:22:15.800 you know,

01:22:16.320 not that we liked

01:22:17.080 what he did,

01:22:17.480 but he was just so effective.

01:22:18.860 But he,

01:22:19.500 Blair definitely sort of

01:22:20.560 captured the zeitgeist

01:22:21.960 and then kind of

01:22:23.120 beat the conservatives

01:22:24.020 with it.

01:22:24.640 You're like the stodgy old

01:22:25.820 John Major,

01:22:26.700 grey,

01:22:27.600 everyone hates conservatives

01:22:28.700 actually because you're boring

01:22:29.800 and you don't want to

01:22:31.520 bankrupt the country

01:22:32.400 and fill it with immigrants.

01:22:33.720 It's kind of what Hill

01:22:34.340 was saying in that piece,

01:22:35.020 you kind of realise

01:22:35.620 there is no sectional interest

01:22:37.540 in the Tory,

01:22:37.900 or it's not sufficient anymore.

01:22:38.800 Yeah.

01:22:39.140 The natural Tory,

01:22:39.960 there's not enough of them.

01:22:41.020 Then you have the Michael Howard

01:22:42.300 wilderness years

01:22:43.000 where you're like,

01:22:44.000 what's the point,

01:22:44.480 what's the point of this lot?

01:22:45.380 And they only came back

01:22:46.440 because of Cameron,

01:22:47.200 who was imitating Blair.

01:22:50.100 I don't know,

01:22:50.780 because like by 2009,

01:22:54.020 like by the sort of Brown era,

01:22:55.580 you could,

01:22:55.900 and like Tony Blair,

01:22:56.980 he won an election with,

01:22:58.420 I can't remember

01:22:59.120 how many votes it was,

01:23:00.040 but then the second one,

01:23:01.040 he did actually lose votes

01:23:02.620 and Brown just scraped it.

01:23:05.360 No, sorry,

01:23:06.060 Brown lost.

01:23:06.880 No, yeah,

01:23:07.420 no,

01:23:07.520 Brown was just handed it

01:23:08.320 by the Blair.

01:23:08.660 Yeah,

01:23:08.680 Brown was handed it

01:23:09.300 and then lost to the conservatives.

01:23:10.960 So I don't see why

01:23:12.820 it was inevitable

01:23:13.400 that it was Cameron

01:23:14.240 that took it over

01:23:15.500 because it looked like,

01:23:16.460 you know,

01:23:16.780 they were kind of

01:23:17.360 on the downswing anyway.

01:23:18.300 Inevitable versus who?

01:23:19.960 Well,

01:23:20.220 there's inevitable

01:23:20.820 that the Labour Party

01:23:22.180 would win

01:23:22.640 unless we became Cameron.

01:23:25.020 Yeah,

01:23:25.280 well the Tories just,

01:23:26.220 it comes back to this talent thing.

01:23:27.500 The Tories had a lack of talent.

01:23:28.420 They were talking about

01:23:28.800 who are we going to get?

01:23:29.400 Is it going to be David Davis

01:23:30.420 was talked about at the time.

01:23:31.600 It was all these older

01:23:32.220 sort of old faces

01:23:33.420 and when Cameron emerged,

01:23:34.700 it was like,

01:23:34.980 no, no,

01:23:35.160 he was too young.

01:23:35.900 That was to receive wisdom

01:23:36.800 for a long time.

01:23:37.680 He's too young

01:23:38.260 and then that just became,

01:23:39.700 oh,

01:23:39.900 that's nonsense.

01:23:40.420 He's definitely going to be the guy

01:23:41.820 but it's almost,

01:23:43.280 it's just a sort of talent thing,

01:23:44.200 isn't it?

01:23:44.440 Like,

01:23:44.960 you know,

01:23:45.340 David Betts has been talking

01:23:46.100 about elite defection.

01:23:47.180 I'm almost like,

01:23:47.640 who's going to be the guy?

01:23:48.640 Maybe it is Rupert Lowe.

01:23:49.840 You actually need a guy,

01:23:50.900 although you can say

01:23:51.420 what you want about

01:23:52.060 this great man theory

01:23:53.360 not applying and beyond that.

01:23:54.800 You still need

01:23:55.460 a person,

01:23:56.560 a man or a Thatcher

01:23:57.560 or a Blair.

01:23:58.720 We still need something like that

01:23:59.840 but on our side.

01:24:01.000 It could be lower.

01:24:03.740 I don't know.

01:24:04.440 I mean,

01:24:04.680 I hope it's low.

01:24:05.460 I hope it's anyone.

01:24:06.300 The problem is

01:24:06.660 with elite defection

01:24:07.580 is low enough in the elite.

01:24:09.560 He's in the kind of money,

01:24:10.580 he's got money

01:24:11.200 but he's not really in the elite.

01:24:13.080 So you almost,

01:24:13.400 I was thinking about it the other day,

01:24:14.200 who from the elite

01:24:15.160 can sort of defect?

01:24:17.000 And he was saying,

01:24:18.160 Betts,

01:24:18.480 there's no way Farage is the guy

01:24:19.700 and he's not really,

01:24:20.460 is he?

01:24:20.800 He's very much in,

01:24:21.820 he doesn't want to defect basically

01:24:22.980 even if he is in the elite

01:24:23.940 which is unclear as well.

01:24:25.700 So who's it going to be?

01:24:26.980 Is it a generic?

01:24:28.000 He's not really in the,

01:24:29.440 is he really significant enough?

01:24:31.680 You almost need a massive figure

01:24:32.840 from the elite.

01:24:33.520 That's what we have with,

01:24:34.180 we seem to have with Johnson

01:24:35.320 with Cummings

01:24:35.900 but it was a Mirage.

01:24:36.860 Yeah.

01:24:37.180 A Johnson style figure

01:24:39.760 to defect properly.

01:24:41.740 I mean,

01:24:42.180 there just isn't one around.

01:24:43.680 I couldn't think of one.

01:24:44.680 I was trying to think

01:24:45.560 and I was coming up blank.

01:24:46.520 Jeremy Clarkson maybe?

01:24:47.900 I don't know.

01:24:48.860 It might be Corbyn,

01:24:49.900 that's the terrifying thing.

01:24:51.360 It might be Corbyn.

01:24:52.680 No,

01:24:53.120 no,

01:24:53.500 stop reading A's Twitter feed.

01:24:55.140 It's not bloody Corbyn.

01:24:57.440 Corbyn's older than bloody God.

01:24:59.900 You know,

01:25:00.080 he's like 71 or something.

01:25:00.960 Yeah,

01:25:01.260 maybe it's some new Muslim

01:25:02.340 we don't know about.

01:25:03.240 Oh,

01:25:03.460 brilliant,

01:25:03.860 yeah.

01:25:04.480 It could be.

01:25:06.080 But they were never in the elite

01:25:07.200 so I don't know who it is,

01:25:08.400 who it could be.

01:25:09.420 No,

01:25:09.700 71% there says,

01:25:10.860 slightly off topic,

01:25:12.440 but did you guys see Mr. Hitchens

01:25:13.740 eloquently put Grok in its place

01:25:15.320 by telling it it doesn't exist?

01:25:17.080 I did see that

01:25:18.200 and I said,

01:25:18.740 what happened there?

01:25:19.200 finally meets its match

01:25:20.240 because it was Hitchens saying,

01:25:22.240 you can't actually offend me,

01:25:23.360 you don't exist.

01:25:24.140 It was just a brilliant quote tweet

01:25:25.920 put down of Grok.

01:25:26.900 It was so funny.

01:25:27.660 Old Man Yelling at Clowns,

01:25:30.920 yeah,

01:25:31.080 it does feel that way.

01:25:32.020 It was so funny.

01:25:33.640 Like,

01:25:33.860 Grok's like,

01:25:34.500 the most thorough thing in the world

01:25:35.540 is like,

01:25:35.760 until it comes up against

01:25:36.760 the Hitchens quote tweet,

01:25:38.020 then he's going,

01:25:38.400 I'm sorry Mr. Hitchens,

01:25:39.260 you're absolutely,

01:25:40.320 well then don't use contrarian.

01:25:41.940 If you know it's pejorative,

01:25:42.980 why use it?

01:25:43.780 It was the funniest exchange.

01:25:45.360 We should have done a video

01:25:46.060 just on that.

01:25:46.880 It's the funniest exchange.

01:25:49.580 I didn't see this,

01:25:51.100 but the thing is that

01:25:51.760 it's the fact that

01:25:52.740 Hitchens continued to argue with it.

01:25:54.440 It's like,

01:25:54.780 yeah.

01:25:55.620 Can't offend because you don't exist.

01:25:56.840 It's checkmate Grok

01:25:58.180 and then it comes back.

01:25:59.420 It's so funny, man.

01:26:00.460 Stop arguing with the LLM,

01:26:01.820 Mr. Hitchens.

01:26:02.540 It's just,

01:26:03.440 it's not a thing.

01:26:04.680 You are right,

01:26:05.340 actually.

01:26:05.820 You are right.

01:26:06.360 You don't need to argue.

01:26:07.040 It was so foolish

01:26:07.700 that you used contrarian

01:26:08.540 against Hitchens.

01:26:09.200 Everyone's like,

01:26:09.600 no,

01:26:09.960 Grok,

01:26:10.240 you don't know what you've done.

01:26:13.480 George says,

01:26:14.260 the Tories are beyond repair.

01:26:15.720 Thinking they can be fixed

01:26:16.600 is delusional at this point.

01:26:17.680 They are responsible

01:26:18.160 for the current state of the country.

01:26:19.520 I'd rather see

01:26:20.180 labour accelerationism

01:26:21.380 than the boomers

01:26:21.940 being complacent

01:26:22.600 under the Tories again.

01:26:23.440 You may be in luck.

01:26:24.620 Yeah.

01:26:25.740 You might be getting

01:26:26.780 exactly what you wanted there.

01:26:28.000 But I actually do think

01:26:29.040 there's something

01:26:29.460 substantive to this,

01:26:30.880 actually.

01:26:31.780 Because I am viewing

01:26:33.220 the Conservatives

01:26:34.400 as kind of like

01:26:35.500 the chloroform

01:26:37.540 that's been keeping us

01:26:38.880 all asleep, right?

01:26:40.000 It's like,

01:26:40.260 oh, well,

01:26:40.540 the Tories are in charge.

01:26:41.220 We should be fine.

01:26:42.140 It's like,

01:26:42.380 no,

01:26:42.680 they've been worse,

01:26:44.080 if not,

01:26:44.520 you know,

01:26:44.740 just as bad,

01:26:45.300 if not worse.

01:26:46.660 And the fact that you use

01:26:48.120 the Tories as a safety blanket

01:26:49.500 is part of the problem.

01:26:50.760 We wouldn't be in this position

01:26:51.900 if we didn't have

01:26:53.520 the Tory party,

01:26:54.380 frankly,

01:26:55.200 and we just had

01:26:56.000 the insane,

01:26:57.240 retarded communists

01:26:58.120 who were trying

01:26:58.460 to kill everyone.

01:26:59.720 Yeah.

01:27:00.100 Thinking about that

01:27:00.780 Hitchens piece again

01:27:01.420 in relation to what

01:27:01.940 you've just said,

01:27:03.380 it's absolutely true

01:27:04.600 that reform's a protest vote.

01:27:05.860 It's an angry vote.

01:27:06.540 We hate these two parties

01:27:07.440 and we're finally

01:27:08.020 had enough,

01:27:08.700 which is significant.

01:27:09.840 Then most people think,

01:27:10.720 will reform get it together

01:27:11.540 and form a proper team,

01:27:12.520 proper government?

01:27:13.100 Probably not.

01:27:13.800 But then the question is,

01:27:14.540 what comes after?

01:27:15.140 And obviously Hitchens' fear

01:27:15.940 is a weird leftist coalition.

01:27:17.820 But it also opens the door

01:27:18.800 for our thing to come in as well.

01:27:20.400 A weird rightist coalition.

01:27:21.520 Exactly.

01:27:22.080 So that's the hope.

01:27:23.560 But it could easily be

01:27:24.280 the Sultana party.

01:27:25.660 I mean,

01:27:26.040 the not your party.

01:27:27.640 I love that, man.

01:27:29.220 It's not your party.

01:27:30.980 I know.

01:27:32.200 Now she wants it

01:27:32.740 to be called the left.

01:27:33.940 Yeah, I know.

01:27:34.440 The major issue

01:27:35.120 with coalitions

01:27:36.200 is that you have

01:27:37.540 massive ego problems.

01:27:39.300 Oh, really?

01:27:39.660 If you have people

01:27:40.880 who are basing their image

01:27:43.500 on I am not compromising,

01:27:46.600 they are going to destroy

01:27:47.480 any form of society

01:27:48.880 they are going to be part of,

01:27:50.940 including parties.

01:27:52.940 I've noticed a bit of that

01:27:54.460 on both sides.

01:27:56.520 Yeah, we're going to have to

01:27:57.140 try and avoid ego issues

01:27:58.280 and vote Farage.

01:28:00.080 You think so?

01:28:00.760 No, I'm joking.

01:28:02.140 Farage is just

01:28:02.940 a giant walking ego.

01:28:04.580 Oh, I see.

01:28:05.240 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:05.800 I thought you meant

01:28:06.660 for a second something else.

01:28:07.720 But yeah,

01:28:08.100 because the restore movement

01:28:09.100 needs to be about policies

01:28:10.440 and not people at this point.

01:28:11.900 But I don't know.

01:28:13.020 It's a good point, though.

01:28:13.940 Is this a problem

01:28:16.100 with Greek politics?

01:28:17.360 No, I think that's a problem

01:28:18.460 with human nature.

01:28:19.400 Oh, right.

01:28:19.860 No, because if you have...

01:28:21.220 It's a lesson learned

01:28:22.100 from Greek politics.

01:28:24.060 To a degree.

01:28:25.380 I think you have this

01:28:26.520 in every sort of society

01:28:28.760 where you have people

01:28:30.100 coming together,

01:28:30.940 forming groups,

01:28:32.420 when especially they are

01:28:34.260 from a particular area

01:28:36.900 where they make their name

01:28:40.000 and their audience,

01:28:41.500 in a sense,

01:28:41.920 and following

01:28:42.400 from the image of

01:28:44.120 I am not compromising.

01:28:46.200 That's a problem

01:28:47.000 because if,

01:28:48.080 let's say,

01:28:48.340 take lots of people

01:28:49.320 from X now,

01:28:50.600 if they say,

01:28:51.120 right, okay,

01:28:51.740 it's our side.

01:28:52.840 Let us come and form

01:28:54.140 a movement or something.

01:28:56.960 And all of it,

01:28:57.940 all of these people

01:28:58.860 have formed their image

01:29:00.340 out of

01:29:00.840 I'm not compromising

01:29:02.140 with anything.

01:29:03.420 Yeah.

01:29:03.680 Yeah.

01:29:04.420 It's not going to work.

01:29:05.560 Yeah, although the idea

01:29:06.340 of the Tory party,

01:29:07.200 you might ostensibly see it

01:29:08.420 as kind of the ultimate vehicle

01:29:09.420 of total compromise

01:29:10.440 and pragmatism.

01:29:11.240 But the Eurosceptics

01:29:12.440 were massively uncompromising

01:29:13.940 to the point

01:29:14.360 they just destroyed

01:29:15.560 everything,

01:29:15.920 you could say.

01:29:16.340 Yeah.

01:29:17.600 The Tories,

01:29:18.400 the only uncompromising thing

01:29:20.520 the Tories are uncompromising on

01:29:22.840 is compromise itself.

01:29:24.540 So, no,

01:29:25.020 we are going to bend

01:29:25.520 the knee to the left.

01:29:26.280 We're not going to do anything else.

01:29:27.340 We're definitely bending the knee.

01:29:28.240 So the Eurosceptic side

01:29:28.960 was incredibly intransigent

01:29:30.100 on Brexit,

01:29:31.240 if you read, like,

01:29:31.820 all-out war or something,

01:29:32.940 to the point where they were like,

01:29:34.000 you know,

01:29:34.340 even if you're pro-Brexit

01:29:35.080 or anti,

01:29:35.500 they, yeah.

01:29:36.560 And they won.

01:29:37.100 Yeah, but they won.

01:29:37.820 So the Conservatives,

01:29:39.480 if they actually stood on a principle

01:29:40.940 and actually were like,

01:29:42.180 no, we're going to do this.

01:29:42.660 It's true,

01:29:42.880 they are capable of doing it.

01:29:43.860 They can actually win.

01:29:45.280 I think you're talking about

01:29:46.440 a massive discrepancy here

01:29:48.680 because you wouldn't expect

01:29:49.880 from a right-winger

01:29:50.820 to concede ground

01:29:52.540 to leftist politics,

01:29:53.460 which is what they did.

01:29:55.200 All the time.

01:29:55.660 We're talking about policy

01:29:57.220 and goals

01:29:58.620 within a particular framework.

01:30:00.660 Right, right.

01:30:01.040 Yeah.

01:30:01.560 Within the people

01:30:02.340 who are defined by saying

01:30:03.340 we're not that thing

01:30:04.140 because we're all about

01:30:04.900 our integrity.

01:30:05.960 And then you get this breakdown

01:30:06.860 of tiny micro-parties.

01:30:08.700 Yeah, yeah.

01:30:09.260 And everyone screams each other,

01:30:12.820 everyone else is contained.

01:30:14.240 Does Greece have

01:30:14.740 proportional representation?

01:30:17.040 No.

01:30:17.520 We have the main party

01:30:19.900 that wins a bonus

01:30:21.140 of plus 50 seats

01:30:23.580 in the parliament

01:30:24.380 because that's a good idea,

01:30:27.500 by the way,

01:30:28.520 because the people

01:30:29.600 in the constitution

01:30:30.680 who drafted it

01:30:32.360 were saying that

01:30:33.000 there's zero way

01:30:34.520 Greeks are going to come together

01:30:38.180 and have a majority government,

01:30:41.980 so we need to boost

01:30:42.840 the first party.

01:30:43.920 Right, right.

01:30:44.400 We would have chaos

01:30:46.560 all the time.

01:30:47.240 That's interesting

01:30:47.840 because we've got

01:30:49.780 a very old and boring

01:30:51.280 voting system,

01:30:52.780 so we always get a winner,

01:30:54.700 basically.

01:30:55.100 It's very rare

01:30:55.500 to have coalitions.

01:30:56.200 But you saw how many votes

01:30:57.680 Farage won

01:30:58.500 relative to the Lib Dems

01:31:00.200 and how many more seats

01:31:01.840 the Lib Dems had.

01:31:03.260 Yeah, no,

01:31:03.680 we're testing the limits

01:31:04.400 of it now

01:31:04.800 with the new setup.

01:31:06.320 Isn't that the base virtue

01:31:07.720 of the first-past-post system?

01:31:10.140 Anyway,

01:31:11.080 we are going to have

01:31:12.360 to end it there

01:31:12.860 because we've run out of time,

01:31:13.840 but anyway,

01:31:14.180 thank you, Nick,

01:31:14.900 for joining us

01:31:15.400 and we will be back

01:31:17.240 in half an hour

01:31:17.940 for Lads Hour Way.

01:31:19.100 We're going through

01:31:19.780 Spider-Man 3.

01:31:21.200 See you there.

01:31:21.880 Lads, lads, lads.

01:31:22.220 they're going through

01:31:25.420 horrible events,

01:31:27.960 oh,

01:31:28.620 he's gotten do

01:31:28.760 bad.

01:31:29.300 They're going through

01:31:29.900 their plans,

01:31:30.460 or I don't know

01:31:31.340 they're going through

01:31:32.200 as if they're not

01:31:32.840 or they're not

01:31:33.260 at yanlış nível

01:31:33.720 and they're not

01:31:35.300 quite.

01:31:35.920 They're going through

01:31:36.760 it.

01:31:38.600 They're going through

01:31:39.020 their plans,

01:31:39.500 and then we have

01:31:39.840 to cause

01:31:39.900 them soon.

01:31:40.600 So,

01:31:40.780 if they're going through

01:31:41.240 and that will

01:31:41.880 follow our final

01:31:43.120 steps,

01:31:43.780 in their career,

01:31:44.040 and that will

01:31:45.560 Bethair.

01:31:46.840 Remember,

01:31:47.100 and they did

01:31:48.240 going through

01:31:48.740 and that will

01:31:50.320 throw everybody

01:31:51.020 because their

01:31:51.360 will be

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - August 01, 2025

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