The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1224

00:00:00.000 Who are the men that pick for scraps amongst the ruins at the end of history?

00:00:07.000 You should know, because you encounter them every day.

00:00:10.000 Between the towering buildings of a fallen empire,

00:00:13.000 we find the Fellaheen, the historyless men,

00:00:17.000 who know nothing of the turning of the cosmic wheel

00:00:20.000 and find themselves outside of civilization itself.

00:00:23.000 Cut loose from the great chain of being,

00:00:26.000 they represent the low into which our dying culture will return.

00:00:31.000 That is, unless we choose to take up the burden once again.

00:00:36.000 This Fellaheen condition is the subject we explore in issue 4 of Islander Magazine,

00:00:42.000 on sale while stocks last and available worldwide at shop.loadseaters.com.

00:00:50.000 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:52.000 Welcome to the podcast of the Lord Seaters for Wednesday, the 6th of August, 2025.

00:00:56.000 I am joined by Dan and Nate from MrHReviews,

00:00:59.000 and we are going to be discussing which left-wing activists

00:01:02.000 we're going to be taking as our second and third lives.

00:01:04.000 Now, that was what we were discussing before the podcast, I'm afraid.

00:01:06.000 That's a more interesting conversation.

00:01:08.000 We had to stop.

00:01:10.000 I made sure my mic was pushed well away from me,

00:01:13.000 just in case it was live.

00:01:15.000 No, what we're actually going to be talking about is

00:01:17.000 Trump not being able to serve Israel and America.

00:01:21.000 Nigel Farage going left-wing.

00:01:24.000 And why...

00:01:25.000 Well, we're just going to be asking the question.

00:01:27.000 Why do the Democrats have such weird, pervy and degenerate

00:01:30.000 and morally abhorrent artwork on their walls?

00:01:33.000 What is going on here?

00:01:35.000 It's all a bit bloody peculiar.

00:01:37.000 And so, we'll begin.

00:01:40.000 So, before we start, go and get Islander Magazine.

00:01:43.000 Stocks are going fast.

00:01:44.000 So, go to shop.loses.com.

00:01:46.000 It's an excellent edition, issue, whatever I want to say.

00:01:51.000 I, of course, have got an essay in there and it's brilliant, if I do say so.

00:01:54.000 By the way, that was a really good trailer, actually.

00:01:56.000 Thank you.

00:01:57.000 Who put that together?

00:01:58.000 Well, I wrote the script.

00:01:59.000 Right.

00:02:00.000 I guess the chaps edited it.

00:02:02.000 They did a good job.

00:02:03.000 Oh, thank you.

00:02:04.000 And you.

00:02:05.000 I mean, the script is lovely, too.

00:02:06.000 It's not working, so let's go.

00:02:07.000 Yeah, right.

00:02:08.000 So, you may remember the Bible.

00:02:11.000 Any of you familiar with the Bible?

00:02:13.000 I've read it.

00:02:14.000 From Matthew 624.

00:02:15.000 You haven't read it?

00:02:16.000 I haven't read it.

00:02:17.000 Oh, good.

00:02:18.000 Okay.

00:02:19.000 From Matthew 624.

00:02:21.000 No man can serve two masters.

00:02:23.000 Either you will hate the one and love the other,

00:02:26.000 or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.

00:02:29.000 You cannot serve both God and money.

00:02:31.000 And my goodness, isn't Donald Trump learning this?

00:02:33.000 Because his approval rating is taking a dive.

00:02:35.000 And I'm not alone in suspecting that it's Donald Trump's...

00:02:40.000 I don't know how to describe it without sounding like I'm on a team here.

00:02:45.000 Affinity.

00:02:46.000 Yeah, affinity for Israel is a good way of putting it.

00:02:49.000 Well, I know what team he should be on.

00:02:50.000 Yeah.

00:02:51.000 Because he's the president of the US.

00:02:52.000 So, I mean, that gives you a clue.

00:02:54.000 Kind of follows on from the name, doesn't it?

00:02:56.000 Yeah.

00:02:57.000 But he's definitely taking a bit of a hit in his popularity.

00:03:01.000 For example, I mean, his approval rating, as this article tells us,

00:03:05.000 he's down to 38% in a recent poll, which with 58% disapproval rating,

00:03:11.000 which is a significant drop, six points since their last poll.

00:03:15.000 Well, also in telling me, South Park came out with that hit thing on him.

00:03:20.000 Yeah.

00:03:21.000 And Republicans were like, yeah, fair enough.

00:03:23.000 Yeah.

00:03:24.000 Yeah.

00:03:25.000 I mean, don't argue with South Park.

00:03:26.000 Obviously, it's arguing the court jester.

00:03:28.000 But still, why are you in a position where South Park can mock you in quite an effective way?

00:03:34.000 Yeah.

00:03:35.000 And can basically get no pushback for it.

00:03:36.000 Yeah.

00:03:37.000 Well, the interesting thing about that, I think it's mildly interesting anyway,

00:03:40.000 is that South Park chose to mock him by proxy with Mr. Garrison becoming Donald Trump before.

00:03:49.000 And they never actually waded into it properly.

00:03:51.000 They just satirized him via Mr. Garrison, but it wasn't actually really satirizing him that much.

00:03:56.000 And now they've just gone, yeah, we'll just do the whole thing.

00:03:59.000 Why not?

00:04:00.000 Now you're having sex with Satan with your tiny dick.

00:04:02.000 It's like, okay, that's new.

00:04:03.000 I mean, at least it was Satan, not Hibby.

00:04:06.000 I mean, they could have gone one further.

00:04:08.000 Well, I mean, on that note, we'll get to that in a minute.

00:04:12.000 But yeah.

00:04:13.000 So anyway, Trump's ratings are going down.

00:04:15.000 And everyone is well aware that the Epstein files have been not necessarily a public concern,

00:04:20.000 but it's really put a ridge, carved a groove in the base.

00:04:26.000 And then you had him being booed at a WWE event.

00:04:30.000 Ooh.

00:04:31.000 Which is really weird because, I mean, he's in the WWE Hall of Fame.

00:04:34.000 I mean, the demographic of WWE as well.

00:04:36.000 You'd think that's his base.

00:04:38.000 Well, they are.

00:04:39.000 That is it, isn't it, right?

00:04:40.000 He's high testosterone, and therefore it's right wing.

00:04:43.000 You know, he should be able to get cheered at any of these.

00:04:45.000 And he used to be.

00:04:46.000 Yes.

00:04:47.000 He absolutely used to be.

00:04:48.000 So you can see that the direction that Trump has been taking recently has not exactly been improving his standing with his own base.

00:04:56.000 And this, I think this is a concern because the midterms are going to be coming up in like a year or whenever it is, a year and a half.

00:05:03.000 And at the moment, Trump's in a good position to get a lot of stuff done, but this could change.

00:05:08.000 And he could end with his last couple of years as just a lame duck presidency that gets nothing done, which wouldn't be good.

00:05:14.000 And so actually working for the good of America, primarily, and not being like a street sweeper for Israel would be much more sensible.

00:05:24.000 And I hate to say it because, you know, I've been a massive Trump supporter since 2017.

00:05:29.000 You know, I went to Trump Tower to get my MAGA hat in New York, you know.

00:05:33.000 And so watching him basically cleaning up after Netanyahu every day is just frustrating.

00:05:39.000 And the first six months was so good. He came in with so much energy, he was getting so much done, 100% behind him.

00:05:45.000 Every day we were like, this is what he's done. It's amazing.

00:05:48.000 He's going so strong.

00:05:49.000 And then Iran just, sorry, Israel just decided, yeah, we want to pick a fight with Iran.

00:05:53.000 And it's just tanked everything.

00:05:54.000 And so Trump had to clean that up?

00:05:56.000 Yeah.

00:05:57.000 I actually forgot to include that in this because there are other things, but you're right.

00:05:59.000 Israel, like, yeah, they started a war with Iran and they couldn't finish it.

00:06:03.000 And Trump had to bomb them to get it to start.

00:06:06.000 I mean, the Epstein files as well.

00:06:08.000 That has just been a tragic mismanagement of optics and so easily resolved as well.

00:06:16.000 Like, oh, it's a hoax. They made it up.

00:06:20.000 There's nothing in there, though, either.

00:06:22.000 Oh, well, that's a pretty bad hoax then, isn't it?

00:06:24.000 So step one.

00:06:25.000 Surely they would have done something then, wouldn't they, if they made it up?

00:06:28.000 Step one, hire one of the most prominent Epstein talking podcasters to your deputy chief of FBI.

00:06:35.000 Step two, call the whole thing a hoax.

00:06:37.000 I'm just going to send influencers out with files that everyone had already...

00:06:41.000 Look at that.

00:06:42.000 What?

00:06:43.000 It's phase one.

00:06:44.000 Okay, well, what's phase two?

00:06:45.000 Nothing.

00:06:46.000 What was it, phase one?

00:06:47.000 It's on my desk.

00:06:48.000 Yeah.

00:06:49.000 Oh, there's nothing on my desk, actually.

00:06:50.000 Yeah.

00:06:51.000 Oh, for goodness sake.

00:06:52.000 Come on.

00:06:53.000 Honestly, watching poor old Dan Bongino go, no, no, he killed himself.

00:06:55.000 It looked like a hostage video.

00:06:56.000 It looked like a hostage video.

00:06:57.000 It was like, look, Dan, I know you know.

00:06:59.000 Yeah.

00:07:00.000 I was genuinely optimistic, but I, like, who knows what he's been threatened with or what

00:07:05.000 he found or whatever, you know, God only knows.

00:07:07.000 The Epstein situation as well as Israel, both of those things are, that seems to be the

00:07:12.000 litmus test now for, you know, his base going, what is he actually, does he actually believe

00:07:17.000 in everything he's saying?

00:07:18.000 Yeah.

00:07:19.000 Does he have any conviction behind the rhetoric that we saw on the lead-up, you know?

00:07:23.000 Yeah.

00:07:24.000 And was everything, you know, before performative?

00:07:26.000 I mean, the other files, nothing was revealed either.

00:07:31.000 It's like, right, so which one's which?

00:07:34.000 Are we just getting red meat thrown at it?

00:07:35.000 Well, the whole core of it is exactly where you started.

00:07:36.000 You can't serve two masters.

00:07:37.000 And this really is the issue that he's going to have to decide on, or he's going to find

00:07:42.000 that his presidency is rent in two.

00:07:45.000 So this, and again, I just want to be completely clear, we've been big Trump supporters, and

00:07:51.000 I'm personally very neutral on the Israel-Gaza thing.

00:07:55.000 It's not my business.

00:07:56.000 I don't care.

00:07:57.000 There are terrible things happening all over the world every day, and I don't weigh in

00:07:59.000 on those.

00:08:00.000 And so I'm kind of resentful that I have to weigh in on this, because this just doesn't

00:08:04.000 feel like my business.

00:08:05.000 I'm not connected to it.

00:08:06.000 I don't care about whatever the civil war is in Sudan, or in the Congo, or the Saudi-Yemen

00:08:11.000 bombings and all this, and no one else cares either.

00:08:13.000 Yeah.

00:08:14.000 It's only on this that we have to be like, okay, now someone's dragging me into it.

00:08:18.000 And unfortunately, it's Donald Trump.

00:08:20.000 So anyway, Israel has been taking the gloves off when it comes to Gaza.

00:08:25.000 And there are lots of people, I mean, this is just ruins of Gaza.

00:08:30.000 Lots of people are like, well, this is pretty bad, isn't it?

00:08:33.000 And yet, this is absolutely atrocious.

00:08:35.000 Yep.

00:08:36.000 And don't get me wrong, on October the 7th, yeah, it was an absolute massacre and atrocity.

00:08:41.000 The answer isn't just level everything in Gaza.

00:08:45.000 Boots on the ground, I'm afraid, is the answer.

00:08:47.000 If you're like, well, we have to get rid of Hamas, which is the Israeli line.

00:08:50.000 Yeah.

00:08:51.000 Well, then you have to get troops in there and find those men and take them out.

00:08:56.000 Well, if they had done that, even if they'd done it really heavy-handedly, like troop carriers

00:09:01.000 going through the streets, aren't men jumping out, pulling people over houses, the world

00:09:05.000 would have accepted that.

00:09:06.000 But just carpet bombing the place, that's a bit harder.

00:09:09.000 Yeah, it's just not acceptable.

00:09:11.000 And so Israel is losing the PR war, completely losing the PR war.

00:09:15.000 And they know it.

00:09:16.000 That's the thing.

00:09:17.000 They know it.

00:09:18.000 They know that they're crossing a Rubicon that they can't just come back from.

00:09:24.000 I almost appreciate the balls of them, to be honest.

00:09:27.000 Yeah.

00:09:28.000 I mean, I'm not saying I approve of it wholeheartedly, but I mean, you've got some stones to do what

00:09:32.000 they've done.

00:09:33.000 Yeah.

00:09:34.000 I mean, you can't deny that they have balls, but...

00:09:37.000 They're kind of doing the Roman option.

00:09:38.000 Yeah.

00:09:39.000 Which is, yeah, we're just going to salt the land.

00:09:41.000 Yeah.

00:09:42.000 But that doesn't wash in the modern era.

00:09:45.000 Oh, no, of course not.

00:09:46.000 It wasn't very nice then either.

00:09:49.000 Anyway, so this is getting really, really, really bad.

00:09:53.000 And there's just no hiding it.

00:09:54.000 There's no getting away from it.

00:09:56.000 And it's tough for Israelis and pro-Israeli activists on social media.

00:10:01.000 But, I mean, it's just everywhere.

00:10:03.000 And you've just got to look it in the face, really.

00:10:05.000 And even Trump is like, well, look, there is real starvation in Gaza.

00:10:08.000 He says he's not convinced by Israeli denials of starvation in Gaza.

00:10:12.000 He's seen the pictures on TV and said the children look hungry.

00:10:14.000 That's real starvation stuff.

00:10:15.000 You can't fake that.

00:10:16.000 So, right.

00:10:17.000 We all agree.

00:10:18.000 Ben.

00:10:19.000 Like...

00:10:20.000 He acknowledges it, but he's like...

00:10:21.000 Yeah, he acknowledges it, right?

00:10:22.000 I mean, all things being equal, when they've got closed borders and they're being carpet

00:10:25.000 bombed, I would generally expect to find people going hungry.

00:10:28.000 It would be very unusual if they weren't.

00:10:30.000 Yeah.

00:10:31.000 Right?

00:10:32.000 And so Trump accepts that this is an issue that Israel has caused.

00:10:36.000 And so he's like, yeah, I think Israel can preside over the USA distribution in Gaza.

00:10:41.000 What?

00:10:42.000 Why would you do that?

00:10:45.000 Why?

00:10:46.000 I'm not sure that's going to be the optimal.

00:10:47.000 Ah, yes.

00:10:48.000 They'll do a good job of delivering aid to Gaza.

00:10:50.000 Well, they probably won't, will they?

00:10:52.000 Well, no!

00:10:53.000 Their intention is quite literally to get rid of them all.

00:10:56.000 That is their intention.

00:10:57.000 I mean, it does look like just straightforward ethnic cleansing at this point.

00:10:59.000 Yeah.

00:11:00.000 Now, just to be clear, because I know people are going to kick off in the comments one way.

00:11:03.000 There's going to be those people who support Gaza who are going to kick off.

00:11:05.000 There's people who support Gaza.

00:11:06.000 Yeah, I know.

00:11:07.000 This is why I hate this subject.

00:11:08.000 I mean, to be fair, I mean, Faraz has quite a good line on it.

00:11:10.000 These two people deserve each other, because they both do awful things to each other all

00:11:15.000 the time, and they just keep escalating.

00:11:17.000 Yes.

00:11:18.000 Long history of the Middle East summarized in this conflict.

00:11:21.000 But yeah, Trump has said that Israel will run food distribution centers in Gaza.

00:11:26.000 Will they?

00:11:27.000 Yeah.

00:11:28.000 Like, that's very optimistic.

00:11:31.000 Speaking to reporters on his presidential jet, he stressed the Israeli talking point

00:11:34.000 that Hamas steals food assistance distributed in Gaza, a claim that's been denied by aid groups.

00:11:40.000 But the thing is, I think there's probably something to that as well.

00:11:42.000 Oh, I'd imagine they probably do.

00:11:43.000 Well, if you've seen the footage of them, they're all fat.

00:11:46.000 Yeah.

00:11:47.000 They're all fucking fat.

00:11:48.000 Oh, the Hamas fighters.

00:11:49.000 Yeah.

00:11:50.000 They're all chubby.

00:11:51.000 Yeah.

00:11:52.000 And it's just like, right, okay, you're not starving.

00:11:53.000 Yeah.

00:11:54.000 So someone's...

00:11:55.000 Yeah, somebody's getting it.

00:11:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:57.000 Somebody's getting food.

00:11:58.000 Somebody's not getting food.

00:11:59.000 I think Faraz is probably right here.

00:12:02.000 They just deserve each other.

00:12:03.000 But anyway, yeah, I wouldn't exactly give Israel the keys to the city on this one.

00:12:09.000 Because, like, you've got...

00:12:11.000 What is this?

00:12:12.000 Human Rights Watch.

00:12:14.000 And this is a report from Human Rights Watch, but many different people and groups now

00:12:19.000 have accused Israel of shooting at people who are going to these food trucks to get food.

00:12:24.000 Well, when you say people have accused...

00:12:25.000 Wasn't there a video of it as well?

00:12:27.000 Well, it's former IDF soldiers who have made these accusations.

00:12:31.000 Yes, but also others as well.

00:12:33.000 Yeah.

00:12:34.000 It's not just those.

00:12:35.000 But Beckless Will, or Willie, the Associate Crisis and Conflict Director at Human Rights Watch said,

00:12:41.000 Israeli forces are not only deliberately starving Palestinian civilians, they are now gunning them down almost every day as they desperately seek food for their families.

00:12:48.000 US-backed Israeli forces and private contractors have put in place a flawed militarized aid distribution system that has turned aid distributions into regular bloodbaths.

00:12:56.000 It's like, right, yeah.

00:12:57.000 I don't think Israel should be in charge of distributing the Palestinian food.

00:13:01.000 Can't help but fear.

00:13:02.000 I mean, there have been loads of statements from, like, Israeli politicians that are just about, like, can we just ship them all to Europe and stuff like this?

00:13:08.000 Like, no.

00:13:09.000 No thanks.

00:13:10.000 You know, like, thanks but no thanks.

00:13:13.000 And so Trump has had to clean this up.

00:13:15.000 And he's like, right, okay, I'll take over the aid efforts.

00:13:18.000 Like, great.

00:13:19.000 So now, like, rather than reining Israel in, which is what really should be happening.

00:13:23.000 Bringing them to heel, actually saying, sort yourself out now.

00:13:26.000 Exactly.

00:13:27.000 I mean, after you have to clean up the Iran issue with Israel, now having to clean up this, like, look, is there anything that Israel can do that Donald Trump will put his foot down on?

00:13:36.000 I'm pretty sure Donald Trump yesterday made some kind of proclamation of any companies in, or states.

00:13:43.000 The boycotting thing.

00:13:44.000 Yeah.

00:13:45.000 We'll get it.

00:13:46.000 Oh, okay, you've got it.

00:13:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:48.000 I couldn't believe that.

00:13:49.000 The thing I can't get my head around is why does Israel have this much power over the US?

00:13:53.000 I've never heard a satisfactory answer to that.

00:13:55.000 Do you have one?

00:13:56.000 Might be linked to some files.

00:13:57.000 Oh, crap.

00:13:58.000 Sorry, Samson, I actually forgot to put those links in at the end.

00:14:00.000 Can you do us a favour?

00:14:01.000 No, I did have it in my browser.

00:14:04.000 I just forgot to put it in the end of my second.

00:14:05.000 I mean, while he's loading that in, I mean, I can say, again, referring to Faras, because he's done some great work on his series.

00:14:12.000 He's done a bit on Iran and Israel and that kind of stuff.

00:14:15.000 And I get the geopolitical overview, which is, look, that region of the world, the Middle East, is normally controlled by one of the Persians, the Ottomans, or the kingdom on the Nile.

00:14:26.000 So basically Egypt, Turkey or Iran.

00:14:28.000 One of them ends up dominating that region.

00:14:30.000 And so the reason why the US wants Israel in there is because it's grit in the mill that stops anything from happening in that area.

00:14:36.000 Yes.

00:14:37.000 So I get it.

00:14:38.000 But you could make the same argument for supporting the Philippines in that triangle in the South China Sea between Indonesia, Japan and China.

00:14:45.000 Yeah.

00:14:46.000 But why does Israel get not the same amount of support as the Philippines does, which is doing the same geopolitical function?

00:14:53.000 I don't get what's going on here.

00:14:56.000 Well, that's the question.

00:14:57.000 And a lot of people say, well, look at the amount of money that AIPAC spends on American politicians.

00:15:02.000 I mean, they literally raise millions and millions of dollars for loads.

00:15:05.000 There are websites that show the contributions of AIPAC.

00:15:08.000 And Tucker Carlson actually confronted Ted Cruz about this the other day.

00:15:11.000 And Ted Cruz is like, well, you know, we just raise money.

00:15:16.000 And it's like, OK, but that's the problem, Ted.

00:15:19.000 Yeah.

00:15:20.000 The problem is you're becoming financially dependent for your political campaign.

00:15:24.000 So if you want to draw the money aspect on a foreign country, if you want to draw the money aspect in and how money flows work across the world, well, suddenly I can start to see something going on.

00:15:33.000 Right. And then but then you have questions of compromise from Mossad and the questions of the Epstein files.

00:15:41.000 And so this, you know, whether this is correct or not, this is the impression that many people have.

00:15:47.000 But certainly it's certainly an odd thing to do, isn't it?

00:15:49.000 This is the hill everyone's going to die on, just Israel.

00:15:51.000 So I think, really?

00:15:52.000 Yeah. Is there anything that Israel can do that goes too far?

00:15:55.000 And the answer appears to just be no, actually.

00:15:58.000 So anyway, yeah, Trump apparently has said, quote, he's not thrilled about the idea of the U.S. taking charge, but it kind of has to happen.

00:16:04.000 There doesn't seem to be another way.

00:16:06.000 I mean, there is.

00:16:07.000 Yeah, you could just stop giving Israel billions of dollars to have all the weapons that they're using to.

00:16:12.000 Well, and a blank check to act.

00:16:14.000 Yeah. I mean, you could literally just say you are going to stop because we are the U.S. and you are not.

00:16:19.000 That's how that's going to go.

00:16:21.000 The starvation problem in Gaza is getting worse.

00:16:24.000 Trump doesn't like that.

00:16:25.000 He doesn't want babies to starve.

00:16:26.000 He wants mothers to be able to nurse their children.

00:16:28.000 He's becoming fixated on that, an official said.

00:16:31.000 A second U.S. official said the administration will be careful not to get dragged too deep into the Gaza crisis.

00:16:37.000 I think you're a bit late for that.

00:16:38.000 The horse has bolted at this point.

00:16:40.000 I think you are definitely quite involved.

00:16:42.000 We're going to take over Gaza aid, but we don't want to get too involved.

00:16:45.000 Yeah, well, exactly.

00:16:47.000 And so Israel is planning to occupy Gaza just completely.

00:16:50.000 And it's like, right, OK, like that's that's going to end brilliantly, isn't it?

00:16:55.000 Netanyahu has been meeting with his senior security officials to discuss the plans to do this.

00:17:01.000 And when asked about this, Trump was like, well, you know, it's kind of up to Israel, isn't it?

00:17:06.000 I remember seeing that as well.

00:17:07.000 The port, Israel reoccupying all of Gaza has been has been suggested by some Israeli officials.

00:17:14.000 Well, I don't know what the suggestion is.

00:17:16.000 I know that we are we are there now trying to get people fed.

00:17:19.000 As you know, 60 million dollars was given by the United States fairly recently to supply food and a lot of a lot of food, frankly,

00:17:28.000 for the people of Gaza that are obviously not doing too well with the food.

00:17:32.000 And I know Israel is going to help us with that in terms of distribution and also money.

00:17:37.000 We also have the Arab states are going to help us with that in terms of the money and possibly distribution.

00:17:43.000 So that's what I'm focused on as far as the rest of it.

00:17:47.000 I really I really can say that's going to be pretty much up to Israel.

00:17:51.000 Yeah, please.

00:17:52.000 So they've just got a free hand.

00:17:54.000 Why don't you know what the suggestion is?

00:17:58.000 You are the US.

00:17:59.000 Why don't you know you should know what is going on?

00:18:03.000 It's so, so bizarre.

00:18:05.000 And yeah, the the the bit that I forgot to include at the end was that the Trump administration was planning on not giving federal funds as disaster relief in aid to states that had boycotted Israel.

00:18:20.000 So mostly Democrat states.

00:18:21.000 Right.

00:18:22.000 So if you're on your roof and the tornadoes come in and there's water running past your second floor, you've now got to go through your ex history and delete all your anti Israel posts before you can get a helicopter to come in.

00:18:34.000 Well, I'm afraid it's not your choice, actually.

00:18:37.000 So if the state is in the Democrat governor of the state has been like, right, OK, I don't agree with what you're doing in Gaza.

00:18:44.000 We're going to boycott Israel.

00:18:45.000 Trump's like, well, you're not getting you're not getting relief aid if there's a hurricane or something like that.

00:18:49.000 And so that's not exactly America first, is it?

00:18:52.000 No, that's not exactly putting the American.

00:18:54.000 It does sound like some country first, but not America.

00:18:58.000 That's very definitely some country being put first.

00:19:00.000 Yeah, I mean, that's mental.

00:19:02.000 That's actually mental.

00:19:04.000 It's hard to believe it would even have been a consideration at a cabinet meeting.

00:19:07.000 Yeah.

00:19:08.000 Right.

00:19:09.000 OK, so what do we need to do to get them to be on Israel's side?

00:19:11.000 We could withhold relief funding.

00:19:13.000 Right.

00:19:14.000 You know, it's just American citizens.

00:19:15.000 You're starting to do that arc of that character from Civil War.

00:19:18.000 You know, the guy with the green sunglasses who's like, yeah, but what kind of American are you?

00:19:22.000 Oh, yeah.

00:19:23.000 Are you a pro-Israeli American?

00:19:24.000 Yeah.

00:19:25.000 Yeah.

00:19:26.000 Yeah.

00:19:27.000 But that is absolutely bonkers, though, isn't it?

00:19:29.000 That's mad.

00:19:30.000 It's not just me.

00:19:31.000 It's legitimately insane.

00:19:32.000 It's like sins of the father.

00:19:33.000 But even even if I didn't vote for them, I'm going to die.

00:19:36.000 So what?

00:19:37.000 What?

00:19:38.000 I mean, why was I even why?

00:19:40.000 Why did anyone suggest that?

00:19:41.000 Yeah.

00:19:42.000 I mean, well, that's the point, isn't it?

00:19:44.000 Why was this even in your minds, let alone arrive at a policy position that the base had

00:19:49.000 to chimp out?

00:19:50.000 Oh, no.

00:19:51.000 Absolutely spurg out all over social media.

00:19:53.000 And then they walked it back and said, OK, no, no, we won't do that, actually, because

00:19:57.000 actually, that'd be that'd be crazy.

00:20:00.000 Oh, no.

00:20:01.000 A state is boycott Israel.

00:20:02.000 No.

00:20:03.000 Yeah.

00:20:04.000 Yeah.

00:20:05.000 Exactly.

00:20:06.000 What are you doing?

00:20:07.000 I don't understand it.

00:20:13.000 And I can't even fathom what must be underneath it.

00:20:17.000 But the thing is, when you add all these things up, you realize that there is just a deeply

00:20:21.000 unhealthy relationship between America and Israel.

00:20:24.000 It's got to be completely disconnected.

00:20:25.000 Yeah.

00:20:26.000 Like remove, these ties are, they're reprehensible when you're going to risk U.S. citizens'

00:20:33.000 lives.

00:20:34.000 I mean, this is just mental.

00:20:35.000 It could literally get Americans killed.

00:20:36.000 There's no justification for that behavior at all from a U.S. president.

00:20:39.000 And there's, there's obviously a far more sort of hard line position in Israel and narrative

00:20:44.000 in Israel that I'm not a fan of, but like, you know, the, they don't seem like the most

00:20:50.000 grateful bunch.

00:20:51.000 No, of course not.

00:20:52.000 No, of course not.

00:20:53.000 And I, that's what I find particularly galling.

00:20:56.000 Where was, where was J.D. Vance going, you didn't say thank you.

00:20:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:01.000 Exactly.

00:21:02.000 And ironically, I'm not a fan of Zelensky, but he seems a lot more grateful to the Americans

00:21:06.000 and to the West than the bloody Israelis do.

00:21:08.000 Yeah.

00:21:09.000 I hate Zelensky, but he does seem a little bit more grateful than Netanyahu, to be honest.

00:21:13.000 Like I said, I'm not, I'm not a fan of Zelensky, but I prefer him over Netanyahu.

00:21:17.000 Anyway, so yeah, I just, I just can't get over Trump's relationship with Israel and America's

00:21:24.000 relationship with Israel more broadly.

00:21:26.000 And it's, I think the reason that his poll ratings are tanking and there's bases booing

00:21:31.000 him when he goes to WWE matches.

00:21:33.000 I think that he needs to get a real handle on this and basically just sack up and be like,

00:21:37.000 Israel, you're just going to have to do as I say now, right?

00:21:39.000 This is the, the, the tail is wagging the dog here and that's not acceptable.

00:21:44.000 You know, if I want you to do something, you're just going to have to do it.

00:21:47.000 And if you want to have a big confrontation about it, then the confrontation just has

00:21:51.000 to be had, frankly.

00:21:53.000 Um, anyway, we'll, uh, we'll leave that there.

00:21:55.000 Uh, and that's a random name says, wouldn't it be crazy if the West largest generation,

00:21:58.000 the boomers get one shot by a sob story about our greatest ally.

00:22:01.000 Uh, and if you dare question that story, you get jailed.

00:22:03.000 Well, I mean, like I, the, another thing I forgot to include is the Israelis are well

00:22:08.000 aware that they're losing the propaganda war at this point.

00:22:10.000 Uh, cause Gen Z and the millennials just do not care about Israel.

00:22:15.000 Gen X are kind of on it, but the boomers, you know, who are absolutely Israeli diehards,

00:22:21.000 they're getting too old.

00:22:22.000 Well, I mean, I mean, the reason the Gen X is like that is because they've known the

00:22:25.000 whole life.

00:22:26.000 If you talk on this issue, you basically get excommunicated.

00:22:28.000 Yeah.

00:22:29.000 Whereas zoomers don't have jobs anyway.

00:22:30.000 So there's like, why should they care?

00:22:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:32.000 That's exactly right.

00:22:33.000 Um, yeah.

00:22:34.000 So it's a, it's an issue whose time is coming.

00:22:36.000 Frankly.

00:22:37.000 Uh, right.

00:22:38.000 All right.

00:22:39.000 Well, we need to talk about, uh, Nigel Farhage.

00:22:42.000 Okay.

00:22:43.000 Um, or as I like to call him, Nigel Fragile.

00:22:46.000 A little bit good.

00:22:47.000 Uh, he's woke now.

00:22:48.000 Oh yes.

00:22:49.000 We heard.

00:22:50.000 Yeah.

00:22:51.000 I saw JK Rowling tweeting about him.

00:22:53.000 Hmm.

00:22:54.000 Yeah.

00:22:55.000 Um, this, this guy, man, honestly, this guy, uh, effectively camera night Tory rising

00:23:01.000 from the ashes, aren't they?

00:23:02.000 That's, that's effectively what these, these, these individuals at reform are.

00:23:06.000 It's quite insane.

00:23:07.000 Sorry.

00:23:08.000 Do you want the, uh, uh, give me that little box.

00:23:11.000 It used to be higher than that.

00:23:12.000 I'm sure it was higher than that.

00:23:14.000 They're poll ratings.

00:23:15.000 Yeah.

00:23:16.000 Yeah.

00:23:17.000 So they're going backwards in the polls.

00:23:18.000 They've also lost members.

00:23:21.000 Reform as a, as an entity.

00:23:23.000 Yeah.

00:23:24.000 Have, have started to reach what looks like their kind of capacity.

00:23:29.000 Now when you say they've lost members, is that over and above the many, many that they

00:23:33.000 have booted out themselves.

00:23:34.000 Cause they said a vaguely right wing thing.

00:23:36.000 Yeah.

00:23:37.000 They've got a counter and it's just started going down.

00:23:38.000 Been going backwards.

00:23:39.000 Yeah.

00:23:40.000 A little bit.

00:23:41.000 They lost, they lost something like 10,000 cause they, they've done it on like a yearly

00:23:45.000 subscription.

00:23:46.000 So after a year, if you don't renew subscription, well like, and so like 10,000 clocked up.

00:23:49.000 Man, is it too much to ask?

00:23:50.000 Our far right parties are just far right.

00:23:52.000 Is it too much to ask?

00:23:54.000 I mean, just to explain for the Americans, the way it works in this country, we've got two parties,

00:23:57.000 Labour, which openly say, we're going to betray you.

00:24:00.000 Yeah.

00:24:01.000 Tories are the most successful political party of all time because they, they claim that

00:24:04.000 we're not going to betray you and then do.

00:24:07.000 Right.

00:24:08.000 And all he had to do was do the Tory playbook of saying, we're not going to betray you,

00:24:11.000 but he's not even in office yet.

00:24:13.000 And he's, and he's just already saying all this stuff.

00:24:16.000 Already started doing it.

00:24:17.000 So they, like, like I said, I think that they've reached their capacity by the looks

00:24:22.000 of it.

00:24:23.000 And whether this is what they're doing now is like a conscious move to, I don't know.

00:24:28.000 What?

00:24:29.000 Destroy the gains they'd made?

00:24:30.000 I don't know.

00:24:31.000 I mean, it doesn't make any sense to be fair.

00:24:33.000 It doesn't make any sense at all.

00:24:35.000 Let me shift this over.

00:24:37.000 Um, we've got, effectively what happened was Nigel, Nigel Farage, uh, came out and did

00:24:49.000 this big, big, this press conference.

00:24:53.000 Yeah.

00:24:54.000 This, this press conference with again, more Tories, more Tory defectors, more, more, more

00:24:59.000 Tory defectors, one Tory defector and one ex governor.

00:25:01.000 Is it like a boomer Tory retirement home?

00:25:04.000 This is what I mean.

00:25:05.000 It's, it's the Tory Phoenix.

00:25:07.000 Yeah.

00:25:08.000 They've burned down.

00:25:10.000 And so they're trying to, uh, trying to reinvigorate themselves.

00:25:14.000 Um, so I think we should play this if we can.

00:25:16.000 Can we play this please, Samson?

00:25:18.000 Well, when it comes to trans women in prisons, I, I, I, you know, isn't it interesting that

00:25:24.000 we run our country, uh, with people who become ministers, who generally have absolutely

00:25:30.000 no idea of the subject matter that they're talking about.

00:25:34.000 Um, I've personally never worked in a prison, so I can't answer it.

00:25:39.000 But, uh, I think you'll find, uh, that the answer that you'll get from somebody who has

00:25:43.000 worked in prisons at the highest possible level is I think basically it's about risk assessment,

00:25:49.000 isn't it?

00:25:50.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:25:51.000 I mean, we all know what the law is.

00:25:52.000 I'm not going to go back over that yet again.

00:25:55.000 But, um, to my mind, everybody who, um, is in prison deserves to be treated with humanity

00:26:04.000 and decency.

00:26:05.000 And that includes female prisoners, um, and it includes trans prisoners.

00:26:10.000 Um, and, um, you know, everything in the prison service is risk assessed.

00:26:16.000 Um, and I am sure that the prison service will tie itself up in knots over the trans issue.

00:26:23.000 Um, just like many other public sectors have.

00:26:26.000 And, um, as Nigel said earlier, you know, we are at the beginning and that is something

00:26:32.000 that we will need to speak about clearly.

00:26:35.000 Yeah.

00:26:36.000 Yeah.

00:26:37.000 But in terms of the problems in prisons, it's a relatively small one.

00:26:39.000 Yes, it is.

00:26:40.000 Right.

00:26:41.000 Thank you.

00:26:42.000 Tenny Diver, Telegraph.

00:26:43.000 So there's a few take homes from that that I want to raise.

00:26:46.000 Yeah.

00:26:47.000 Um, so, so, but for one, well, I've never worked in a prison, so I can't really talk about it.

00:26:53.000 Yes, you can.

00:26:54.000 Yes, you can.

00:26:55.000 Shut up.

00:26:56.000 Of course you can.

00:26:57.000 You imbecile.

00:26:58.000 You, you raging imbecile.

00:26:59.000 Of course you can.

00:27:00.000 Yeah.

00:27:01.000 That's the same argument that people made.

00:27:02.000 Um, the Democrats, uh, you're allowed to talk about things, even if you haven't.

00:27:04.000 Yeah.

00:27:05.000 Like what's a woman?

00:27:06.000 I'm not a biologist, so I can't.

00:27:07.000 Sorry.

00:27:08.000 Yeah.

00:27:09.000 Yeah.

00:27:10.000 And then, so, case by case basis, what are you doing?

00:27:13.000 You absolute clown.

00:27:14.000 It's just nonsense.

00:27:15.000 Tell us how you really feel.

00:27:16.000 Yeah, I can go harder than this if you want.

00:27:19.000 Uh, the ex-governor, uh, the ex-prisoner governor.

00:27:23.000 Yeah.

00:27:24.000 Uh, saying that, well, you know, we're gonna tie ourselves up and not about it.

00:27:26.000 We don't actually have to.

00:27:27.000 You don't have to.

00:27:28.000 You don't have to.

00:27:29.000 You don't have to tie yourself up and not about it.

00:27:30.000 Actually, you could just go, no, this is, this is what it is.

00:27:32.000 It's done.

00:27:33.000 It's not up for debate.

00:27:34.000 Yes.

00:27:35.000 It's done.

00:27:36.000 It's locked in.

00:27:37.000 It's done.

00:27:38.000 And Nigel's commentary at the start there, I think is, is sort of emblematic of the issue

00:27:42.000 with reform as a whole.

00:27:43.000 You know, well, it's a relatively small issue.

00:27:44.000 So, okay, well, then it should be really easy for you to resolve it, actually.

00:27:48.000 So if you can't get into, if you can't deal with these very, very small, minor, by your

00:27:54.000 own admissions, minor issue, how are you going to deal with the big ones?

00:27:58.000 And he immediately turns it into a process question.

00:28:00.000 Yeah.

00:28:01.000 Managerial.

00:28:02.000 Yeah.

00:28:03.000 Yes.

00:28:04.000 Notice one thing that struck me listening to her talk there is notice how she's describing

00:28:09.000 prisoners as if they're the victims of disability.

00:28:11.000 Oh, no.

00:28:12.000 That was the other thing.

00:28:13.000 Everyone deserves humanity and respect and decency.

00:28:16.000 No, they actually don't.

00:28:17.000 Yeah.

00:28:18.000 It's the cult of safetyism.

00:28:19.000 They don't.

00:28:20.000 Why are they in these prisons, actually?

00:28:21.000 Yeah.

00:28:22.000 Because they've violated someone else's human rights.

00:28:23.000 Yeah.

00:28:24.000 That's basically it.

00:28:25.000 Someone else's humanity and decency.

00:28:26.000 Exactly.

00:28:27.000 No, you don't deserve anything.

00:28:28.000 There's a lot of trans criminals against the law abiding public.

00:28:30.000 And Nigel's like, well, you know, we've got to worry about those poor trans criminals.

00:28:33.000 Absolute clown.

00:28:34.000 I'm not sure we do have to worry about that much.

00:28:36.000 Absolute clown.

00:28:37.000 So obviously he's been, he's been torn up about this.

00:28:39.000 Yeah.

00:28:40.000 Understandably so.

00:28:41.000 He's like, I've never supported men in women's prisons.

00:28:45.000 What was that press conference then, Nigel?

00:28:47.000 We literally just heard you say it, Nigel.

00:28:49.000 Like, what are you doing?

00:28:51.000 Yeah.

00:28:52.000 Rupert Lowe, you did yesterday.

00:28:53.000 Yeah.

00:28:54.000 Yeah.

00:28:55.000 Everyone.

00:28:56.000 Everyone and everything.

00:28:59.000 It's just, it's just nonstop.

00:29:00.000 Like, yeah, we did though.

00:29:01.000 But you literally said it.

00:29:03.000 Yeah.

00:29:04.000 Like, what are you actually doing?

00:29:06.000 Okay.

00:29:07.000 I actually, I have an answer to this.

00:29:09.000 Clown.

00:29:10.000 But we'll, let's carry on a bit because this is not where it stops, is it?

00:29:13.000 No.

00:29:14.000 No, it keeps going.

00:29:16.000 Right.

00:29:17.000 Reform government will never permit men to be housed in women's prisons, says Zia Yusuf,

00:29:21.000 backing up his commander.

00:29:22.000 Okay, but who's-

00:29:23.000 But why didn't you say that then?

00:29:24.000 Who's defining what a man is?

00:29:26.000 Well, this is, this is the point, isn't it?

00:29:28.000 But why didn't you just say that?

00:29:29.000 Why didn't you say it at the press conference then?

00:29:31.000 It's a complex issue.

00:29:32.000 Case by case.

00:29:33.000 Of course.

00:29:34.000 They deserve humanity indeed.

00:29:35.000 Yeah.

00:29:36.000 I've not worked in a prison.

00:29:37.000 So, you know.

00:29:38.000 Can't comment.

00:29:39.000 Think of the human rights of the prisoners.

00:29:41.000 What about safetyism?

00:29:42.000 Muhammad.

00:29:43.000 I didn't think Muhammad Zia Yusuf would fall on the-

00:29:45.000 He's very progressive.

00:29:46.000 Fall on this.

00:29:47.000 Well, of course he is.

00:29:48.000 Yeah.

00:29:49.000 Of course he is.

00:29:50.000 Just duping everyone.

00:29:51.000 This continues, so.

00:29:52.000 Of course, Richard Tice.

00:29:54.000 Like, what?

00:29:55.000 Are you sure about this, Richard?

00:29:58.000 Reform do not support men and women's prisons.

00:30:00.000 So what was yesterday then?

00:30:01.000 Or the day before now, at the time of recording?

00:30:04.000 Like, if it's so easy for you to come out and say this, why didn't you do it at the time

00:30:08.000 when all the media were there?

00:30:10.000 Oh, well we know why.

00:30:11.000 Why are you playing defence on an issue that the right has won?

00:30:14.000 Yeah.

00:30:15.000 The Supreme Court came out.

00:30:16.000 Why are we regressing?

00:30:17.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:30:18.000 The Supreme Court, for all the Supreme Court that I don't care about and I'd like to get

00:30:21.000 rid of it, at least, you know, the left view that as like the authority.

00:30:25.000 Keir Starmer was like, well, the Supreme Court has come out and given a judgement.

00:30:28.000 Men are male.

00:30:29.000 Women are female.

00:30:30.000 And that's the end of it.

00:30:31.000 And so even Keir Starmer, who's now apparently to the right of reform on the trans issue,

00:30:35.000 has come out and go like, right.

00:30:36.000 And so Nigel Fry was like, yeah, the right took that hill and I kind of want to give it

00:30:40.000 back to the left.

00:30:41.000 I need to reopen the trans issue so the left have got some more purchase on this one.

00:30:45.000 Because for some reason I can't just take the win.

00:30:47.000 It's so bizarre.

00:30:49.000 It's so bizarre.

00:30:50.000 It's just the weirdest situation.

00:30:54.000 And so...

00:30:58.000 So this is the Tory defector.

00:31:01.000 The woman we just heard was Vanessa Frake.

00:31:04.000 Yeah.

00:31:05.000 The former prison governor.

00:31:06.000 The chap that was next to him.

00:31:08.000 Yeah.

00:31:09.000 She's not trans now, I don't think.

00:31:11.000 Right.

00:31:12.000 And she's going to counsel the party on criminal justice matters.

00:31:15.000 And she says she opposes the automatic exclusion of trans women from female prisons.

00:31:20.000 So Nigel Fry has taken a leftist as an advisor.

00:31:24.000 I mean, she said that.

00:31:25.000 She clearly said that.

00:31:26.000 And he was up on stage nodding.

00:31:28.000 Yeah.

00:31:29.000 It's not like he spoke ambiguously.

00:31:31.000 And then I could understand all of these tweets saying, just to be clear.

00:31:35.000 Yeah.

00:31:36.000 But it wasn't speaking ambiguously.

00:31:37.000 He said, let's hand it off to this woman who went through the process.

00:31:40.000 Explain that actually on a case by case basis, maybe you should have guys.

00:31:44.000 That's what he said himself.

00:31:45.000 He said it's a case by case basis.

00:31:47.000 She's saying I wouldn't have joined reform if I'd known they were trans exclusionary.

00:31:50.000 Oh, like, like, literally, if I'd known that reform have the turf position, which they're

00:31:57.000 all claiming that they do, I wouldn't have joined.

00:32:00.000 So they've got a woke person on the question.

00:32:02.000 So he's come out as anti-turf.

00:32:03.000 That's why.

00:32:04.000 Yeah.

00:32:05.000 Okay.

00:32:06.000 That's why JK Rowling has been kicking off.

00:32:07.000 JK Rowling is more right wing than Nigel Farage.

00:32:10.000 On the, on the question of our men, men and our women, women.

00:32:13.000 Right.

00:32:14.000 So for anyone watching, JK Rowling has tweeted, I genuinely cannot believe that Nigel Farage

00:32:19.000 has now agreed with comments that some trans women prisoners, males should remain in women's

00:32:23.000 prisons.

00:32:24.000 This is absolutely, absolutely absurd.

00:32:25.000 Men do not belong in women's prisons.

00:32:27.000 Why can't reform get this right?

00:32:28.000 What are they on?

00:32:29.000 And JK Rowling's like, this is misogyny.

00:32:31.000 Okay.

00:32:32.000 Okay.

00:32:33.000 JK.

00:32:34.000 But like, you know, yes, this is crazy.

00:32:36.000 Yeah.

00:32:37.000 It's, it's meant this is mental.

00:32:39.000 So, so not being, not being satisfied with being to the left of the Tory party.

00:32:44.000 He now wants to be.

00:32:45.000 And Starmer.

00:32:46.000 And Starmer.

00:32:47.000 He now wants to be to the left of the JK Rowling as well.

00:32:49.000 Yes.

00:32:50.000 The, every character in Harry Potter is gay.

00:32:52.000 JK Rowling.

00:32:53.000 Yes.

00:32:54.000 JK.

00:32:55.000 I'm the world.

00:32:56.000 I don't think he's doing this right wing populism correctly.

00:32:58.000 No dog.

00:32:59.000 I just want one right wing party.

00:33:00.000 I guess.

00:33:01.000 That's all we need.

00:33:02.000 I guess even worse than that.

00:33:03.000 Cause yeah, they did all those tweets.

00:33:04.000 So now we don't support this.

00:33:05.000 We don't support this.

00:33:06.000 Right.

00:33:07.000 Okay.

00:33:08.000 Okay.

00:33:09.000 So what's Anne Widdicombe saying?

00:33:11.000 Uh, I have the exact quote if you like.

00:33:13.000 Yeah.

00:33:14.000 She says,

00:33:15.000 Ah.

00:33:16.000 However's doing heavy lifting.

00:33:30.000 I see.

00:33:31.000 There is a small number of trans people who have gone the whole hog.

00:33:35.000 They have undergone extensive surgery to remove their male genitalia and create a seemingly

00:33:39.000 female body.

00:33:40.000 They have developed breasts and taken drugs to suppress male hormones and promote female

00:33:43.000 ones.

00:33:44.000 They look and sound exactly like the women they believe they have become and may have lived

00:33:47.000 that way for many years.

00:33:48.000 So the official reform policy appears to be, quote, trans women are women.

00:33:55.000 I mean, that's literally it, isn't it?

00:33:57.000 That's literally where they're at now.

00:33:59.000 If you mutilate yourself enough.

00:34:01.000 Yes.

00:34:02.000 You're okay in Anne Widdicombe's book.

00:34:03.000 I'm not.

00:34:04.000 Trans women are women.

00:34:05.000 That's how this works.

00:34:06.000 According to reform.

00:34:07.000 Actual mental.

00:34:08.000 Even, even the Labour Party don't agree with this.

00:34:12.000 Like, this is the same opinion policy as the Green Party.

00:34:17.000 This is the Green Party's position.

00:34:19.000 I mean, it used to be a joke.

00:34:20.000 You made the joke at some conference once, I'll probably end up voting Labour because

00:34:24.000 they're most right-wing party.

00:34:25.000 Well.

00:34:26.000 It's not a joke anymore.

00:34:27.000 They literally are the most right-wing party in this country.

00:34:29.000 Well, I mean, to be fair, Ben Habib's advance party is probably a bit better than that.

00:34:34.000 If they even have a candidate in your area.

00:34:35.000 But that's the point.

00:34:36.000 Are they going to have a candidate in our area come 2029?

00:34:38.000 Because I definitely would vote for that over the trans party reform.

00:34:43.000 I think it's interesting, isn't it?

00:34:45.000 Like, reform...

00:34:47.000 What is their purpose?

00:34:49.000 I mean, so this is obviously...

00:34:50.000 Like, what are they doing?

00:34:52.000 This is obviously a major issue.

00:34:53.000 Before we move on, though, there's actually a really easy rebuttal and response to this

00:34:58.000 whole thing that doesn't concede that men who mutilate themselves through surgery

00:35:02.000 and our women.

00:35:03.000 And that is, okay, well, look, if necessary, have a trans-only prison.

00:35:07.000 Yeah.

00:35:08.000 Yeah.

00:35:09.000 It'd be such a...

00:35:10.000 It's such a small member...

00:35:11.000 Exactly.

00:35:12.000 ...population of the prison.

00:35:13.000 Right, then.

00:35:14.000 Okay, so...

00:35:15.000 It hasn't been a wing, then.

00:35:16.000 It's fine.

00:35:17.000 Exactly.

00:35:18.000 It's going to be a few hundred, get a particular wing, so they're separate from the other prisoners.

00:35:19.000 Deal with that.

00:35:20.000 So they're not...

00:35:21.000 Exactly, right?

00:35:22.000 There are actual answers to this that aren't, yes, actually, JK Rowling's wrong.

00:35:24.000 They're actually trans women and women.

00:35:25.000 Yeah.

00:35:26.000 It's ridiculous.

00:35:27.000 It's...

00:35:28.000 It's funny as well.

00:35:30.000 Nigel is that meme of the guy riding the bike like, why can't I win?

00:35:34.000 Jams are sticking it.

00:35:35.000 No!

00:35:36.000 Why do I do this to myself?

00:35:37.000 So you're...

00:35:38.000 And he has lost about eight points in the polls as well.

00:35:40.000 Yes.

00:35:41.000 They were at like 34%, 35% a couple of months.

00:35:43.000 Really bad.

00:35:44.000 And it's not just this, so this is obviously a big issue, right?

00:35:48.000 But I looked through his Twitter to try to find, like, any commentary about the protests

00:35:55.000 that have happened.

00:35:56.000 Yeah.

00:35:57.000 Nothing.

00:35:58.000 None.

00:35:59.000 Literally none.

00:36:00.000 None that I could find.

00:36:01.000 Correct me if there was anything.

00:36:02.000 I think he did a GB News segment on it, but I didn't watch it.

00:36:06.000 It's probably at the behest of GB News, though.

00:36:08.000 Yeah, probably, yeah.

00:36:09.000 You know, his employer.

00:36:10.000 His producers are like, you have to cover this.

00:36:12.000 What an easy win for them.

00:36:14.000 Do you remember?

00:36:15.000 And I thought this whilst I was driving over here.

00:36:16.000 I just didn't have time to chuck it in.

00:36:18.000 But when did he go down to the farmers' protest?

00:36:21.000 And when did Zia join?

00:36:23.000 He did go down to the farmers' protest.

00:36:25.000 Was Zia already part of that?

00:36:26.000 Yeah, he was.

00:36:27.000 Was it?

00:36:28.000 What a weird thing to...

00:36:29.000 I'll go downside with the farmers, but I won't side with the pink clad mums.

00:36:36.000 The women who were worried about foreign invaders.

00:36:39.000 The thing which propelled him in the media more and more.

00:36:43.000 What is he doing?

00:36:45.000 We're down to something like just over 50% of people actually voting in elections.

00:36:49.000 If he went along to those protests, he would capture 15% of the people who aren't voting,

00:36:55.000 which would easily put him over the top.

00:36:57.000 It's so strange.

00:36:58.000 I mean, remember that when Boris came in, he had 52% approval rating.

00:37:02.000 And it was because Boris had lied to everyone, as you say,

00:37:05.000 and been like, we're going to get Brexit done.

00:37:07.000 This is going to be essentially, and Boris didn't say it in these terms,

00:37:10.000 everyone felt, oh, finally, a right-wing government is going to take over

00:37:13.000 and do something for the country.

00:37:14.000 And that was the general sense that Boris was putting across.

00:37:17.000 Obviously, total betrayal, more stabs in the back.

00:37:20.000 But Farage could easily capture that energy because it would sound believable from him.

00:37:24.000 Because he's been the right-wing populist for a long time,

00:37:27.000 people would believe it, even if it was a lie, which obviously it would be a lie.

00:37:30.000 But like, you know.

00:37:31.000 It's all about ego for him.

00:37:33.000 So when I went through his Twitter, I mean, this was, I mean, this was, you know.

00:37:37.000 Just love Rupert Lowe's there terrorizing under every single tweet.

00:37:40.000 The same journalist who accused me of stoking fear over crime

00:37:43.000 also admits to wearing a phone strap because they're afraid of snatch theft.

00:37:46.000 Go figure.

00:37:47.000 It's like, can you tweet anything that's not about you, Nigel?

00:37:50.000 Like, seriously, can you tweet anything that's not about you?

00:37:53.000 Again, just, they are just the Tories reborn.

00:37:57.000 You know, they're so proud.

00:38:00.000 It's such a weird thing to be proud of accepting Tories.

00:38:04.000 I thought it was really weird when it started to happen,

00:38:07.000 but then they just kept doing it, and then they kept tweeting it out as if they're proud.

00:38:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're taking more Tories, we're taking more Tories.

00:38:14.000 Well, at what point are you then just the Tories?

00:38:17.000 Well, at what point?

00:38:18.000 I can think of an explanation for what he's doing that makes sense

00:38:21.000 if you adopt a different set of motives.

00:38:23.000 So what it could be that he's doing is every time his poll rising gets too high,

00:38:27.000 he comes up with this woke nonsense because he wants to keep his polling in a range

00:38:31.000 where after the election, he doesn't outright win,

00:38:35.000 but if he merged with the Tories, that would put them over the top,

00:38:39.000 which is proper reinvigorating the Tories-type movement.

00:38:43.000 I mean, that's...

00:38:44.000 What?

00:38:45.000 I hate that.

00:38:46.000 Yeah, I hate it too.

00:38:47.000 But that does make sense, right?

00:38:49.000 That would explain everything he's doing.

00:38:51.000 That is his motive.

00:38:52.000 It's just so frustrating that he's got such an easy hand.

00:38:55.000 He's holding all the cards.

00:38:57.000 Yeah.

00:38:58.000 Assuming he actually wants to win.

00:38:59.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:39:00.000 It's a matter of will, isn't it?

00:39:01.000 Exactly.

00:39:02.000 He's got all of the aces, and it's like,

00:39:04.000 yeah, I'm not going to play them.

00:39:05.000 It's like, why?

00:39:06.000 I'm going to just hold or fold or whatever.

00:39:08.000 I'm going to actually do the opposite of the aces.

00:39:10.000 Yeah, I'm literally going to fold instead so someone else wins.

00:39:12.000 It's like, what are you doing?

00:39:13.000 Yeah.

00:39:14.000 Trans women are women, actually, says Nigel Farage.

00:39:16.000 But again, becoming a Tory retirement home, I just can't understand it.

00:39:21.000 Because if I was running reform, and they were like, oh, can we defect?

00:39:25.000 I'd be like, no.

00:39:26.000 I don't trust turncoats.

00:39:27.000 No, you stand and die by your failed party, you losers.

00:39:31.000 I do.

00:39:32.000 I will choose someone good, and I will raise them up who deserves it,

00:39:35.000 not just take some losers.

00:39:37.000 Yeah, I mean, I would go a step further than that,

00:39:39.000 knowing full well that the mood of the nation was one of sheer resentment

00:39:44.000 for the Tories, so much so that they were obliterated at the election.

00:39:47.000 Every single time a Tory attempted to defect, I'd host a press conference,

00:39:51.000 and outrightly, I would, and I'd say, no, the public rejected you.

00:39:57.000 We reject you.

00:39:58.000 You are a bunch of losers.

00:39:59.000 That's what I would do every single time.

00:40:01.000 And you would rise so far in the polls.

00:40:04.000 That would be good.

00:40:05.000 But no, you know, the structure is its function, right?

00:40:09.000 The structure of reform is just full of Tories now.

00:40:13.000 The function is going to be Tories.

00:40:15.000 They are containment.

00:40:16.000 They are demonstrable containment.

00:40:19.000 There's no other way around it.

00:40:20.000 I think a lot of this, it might come down to what you're saying,

00:40:23.000 but I think the motivation, I think Farage has always been kind of salty

00:40:26.000 that the Tories didn't embrace the Brexity stuff, you know, way back in the day,

00:40:31.000 like 30 years ago, and he basically had to get kicked out of the Tory party

00:40:34.000 and join UKIP, right, to get anywhere done.

00:40:36.000 I think that this is him taking revenge on them,

00:40:38.000 which, okay, great night, but the country's in a hell of a state, mate.

00:40:41.000 What a weird, weird thing.

00:40:43.000 I mean, just building on my idea that he's trying to put the Tories over the top

00:40:46.000 or engineer a situation.

00:40:48.000 To be fair, that is what he's done on at least three previous elections.

00:40:51.000 Yeah.

00:40:52.000 That's true. He stood down for Boris.

00:40:53.000 Yeah.

00:40:54.000 And put it this way, let's say you were watching somebody in a casino

00:40:57.000 and they had the cards to win, and they consistently didn't

00:41:00.000 but ended up engineering it, so somebody else on the table won.

00:41:03.000 I mean, after a while, you'd start to think, yeah, maybe they're working together.

00:41:06.000 Yeah.

00:41:07.000 Although I think he's just trying to humble the Tories.

00:41:09.000 I think he wants them to come to him, bend the knee, and...

00:41:11.000 Well, beat them then.

00:41:12.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:41:13.000 Yeah, why would you not?

00:41:14.000 But the thing is, that'll destroy them, right?

00:41:17.000 I don't think he's trying to destroy them.

00:41:18.000 I think what he wants is recognition for them.

00:41:20.000 What an idiot.

00:41:21.000 What an absolute loser.

00:41:22.000 I hate this guy with an absolute passion.

00:41:25.000 Yeah.

00:41:26.000 And it's such easy wins, you know, being asked about Islam.

00:41:28.000 No, we can't.

00:41:29.000 We can't alienate Islam.

00:41:31.000 Just can't.

00:41:32.000 Can't deport people.

00:41:33.000 Just can't.

00:41:34.000 Sorry.

00:41:35.000 Oh, halal me.

00:41:36.000 No, I'm not interested, actually, you know.

00:41:38.000 Trans women, though.

00:41:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:40.000 We'll make a bold statement about that.

00:41:42.000 It's his policy that we can't do anything about Islam taking over in 2040.

00:41:46.000 Can't alienate them, in fact.

00:41:48.000 Or if they'll lose.

00:41:49.000 The only thing we can do is appeal to them so they don't kill us when they take over.

00:41:53.000 Appease them, basically.

00:41:54.000 And then doesn't want to do anything about halal.

00:41:56.000 And I think, you know, I don't know if anyone remembers in their sort of geology classes or

00:42:02.000 anything along those lines.

00:42:03.000 But erosion, you know, erosion doesn't start with a cliff just completely collapsing.

00:42:07.000 It's a slow, you know, slow sedimentary loss here, there and everywhere.

00:42:12.000 View our culture like a cliff face.

00:42:14.000 Yeah.

00:42:15.000 You know, this slow erosion is what's going to completely collapse it.

00:42:19.000 So, yeah, halal food is an important one, actually.

00:42:22.000 Ban it.

00:42:23.000 It's got no place in it.

00:42:24.000 Barbaric and disgusting.

00:42:25.000 Every standard we abandon was important.

00:42:27.000 Yeah.

00:42:28.000 Exactly right.

00:42:29.000 Slow sedimentary loss.

00:42:30.000 And that cliff face will collapse.

00:42:32.000 And it's just been allowed to.

00:42:33.000 I mean, if we only had two policies on this.

00:42:35.000 One, ban halal meat.

00:42:36.000 Two, take away benefits from people who weren't born here.

00:42:39.000 Just those two things alone would turn the inflow into an outflow.

00:42:42.000 Yes.

00:42:43.000 It would save us huge amounts of money.

00:42:45.000 It'd turn the entire thing around.

00:42:47.000 And yet, here we are.

00:42:49.000 But at least we got some good memes out of this, right?

00:42:51.000 So, I tack these on the end.

00:42:53.000 People are just like, what is happening?

00:42:56.000 So, for anyone watching, it's the stone-tossed meme of the two groups pulling the trans and reform with Nigel Farage on one side.

00:43:06.000 And Keir Starmer's Labour Party and J.K. Rowling are on the other.

00:43:10.000 And the caption is, what the actual F is the UK?

00:43:13.000 Yeah.

00:43:14.000 Great question.

00:43:15.000 No one can really understand exactly how it is that Nigel Farage is being touted as a trans ally by leftists and by various others.

00:43:24.000 Trans women should probably be in women's prisons and say, Nigel Farage.

00:43:27.000 Keir Starmer is LGBT without the T.

00:43:30.000 So, just...

00:43:32.000 I just...

00:43:34.000 Yep.

00:43:35.000 How is this possible, Nigel?

00:43:37.000 Mental.

00:43:38.000 Absolutely mental.

00:43:41.000 Reform...

00:43:42.000 Sorry, restore.

00:43:43.000 Rupert Lowe had quite a strong line on this though, didn't he?

00:43:46.000 Just like, no.

00:43:47.000 Yeah.

00:43:48.000 Women belong in women's prisons.

00:43:50.000 Men belong in men's prisons.

00:43:52.000 And I tagged the thing on the end of the segment.

00:43:55.000 Ah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:56.000 This is the...

00:43:57.000 This...

00:43:58.000 I saw this going around from Blue Sky.

00:44:00.000 Ah.

00:44:01.000 Ah.

00:44:02.000 This is a Blue Sky Democrat who's planning for the future.

00:44:06.000 And they're like, you know what?

00:44:07.000 One of the first foreign policy crises that a Reconstructionist Democrat president will face in 2029 is what to do with a nuclear-armed reform government and its concentration camps.

00:44:17.000 Now, it's important to note, guys, watching, this isn't them believing that Reform will be an Islamic party and thus, obviously, you know, enslaving the native indigenous.

00:44:27.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:44:28.000 They think Reform's far right.

00:44:30.000 They think he's quite literally the second coming of a mustachioed man.

00:44:34.000 If there are concentration camps in Reform's Britain...

00:44:37.000 It'll be for us.

00:44:38.000 It will be us, yeah.

00:44:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:40.000 100% it will be, yeah.

00:44:41.000 The only people he ever gets genuinely angry about are the online right.

00:44:45.000 Yeah, actual right.

00:44:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:47.000 Yeah.

00:44:48.000 Yeah.

00:44:49.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:44:50.000 Anyway, yeah.

00:44:51.000 Bizarre.

00:44:52.000 Actually bizarre.

00:44:53.000 What a strange, strange situation.

00:44:54.000 So, Nigel and Reform, they are quite literally Tories, reborn, rising from the ashes as a phoenix.

00:45:01.000 I love this meme so much, though.

00:45:03.000 It's just nice.

00:45:04.000 How have you found this clown?

00:45:06.000 Yeah.

00:45:07.000 Anyway, Tom says,

00:45:08.000 Carl, this is why you need Pete North on the podcast.

00:45:10.000 He's an ass, but by God above, he's our ass.

00:45:12.000 That's Northern Variant.

00:45:13.000 I quite like him, to be honest.

00:45:15.000 You know, he writes long, dour screeds about how things are going badly.

00:45:19.000 But the thing is, he's generally correct.

00:45:21.000 And I tend to agree with him on those things on that.

00:45:24.000 Chris says, bang on, Dan.

00:45:26.000 Resurrection of the Tories is the aim for reform.

00:45:28.000 Entirely possible.

00:45:30.000 Glee says, you know who else is to the right of Farage on the trans issue?

00:45:33.000 That's right.

00:45:34.000 Galloway's Workers' Party of Britain.

00:45:36.000 So, Galloway's literal communists are to the right of Farage on the trans issue.

00:45:40.000 Well, he's Islamist as well, isn't he?

00:45:42.000 Yeah.

00:45:43.000 I guess that's why.

00:45:44.000 Because Trump appeased all the guards and lot.

00:45:45.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:46.000 I mean, he's not really...

00:45:47.000 Well, the thing is, you say that.

00:45:48.000 But do you remember when he was having a go at Hamza Yusuf?

00:45:50.000 And he did that bit to the camera where he'd lift up his glasses and he's like,

00:45:53.000 look at my blue Celtic eyes, Hamza.

00:45:54.000 Did he?

00:45:55.000 I did not see that.

00:45:56.000 I did not see that.

00:45:57.000 You're not a Celt, are you, Hamza?

00:45:58.000 And it's just like, use us, George.

00:46:01.000 I was based far right George Galloway.

00:46:03.000 That's him in a nutshell though, isn't it?

00:46:05.000 That's his opportunistic.

00:46:06.000 Yeah, he was completely opportunistic.

00:46:09.000 But Matt says, pro as well and anti-Russia ideas are because US boomers are still holding

00:46:13.000 political office.

00:46:14.000 Boomers have not evolved beyond World War II and Cold War thinking.

00:46:17.000 That's totally, totally true.

00:46:18.000 Yeah.

00:46:19.000 Right.

00:46:20.000 OK, let's move on to the horrors that await us.

00:46:24.000 So for this one, I'm going to have to give a proper trigger warning and not ironically,

00:46:29.000 like an actual proper trigger warning for this one.

00:46:31.000 So I'm going to let you into what I'm going to do.

00:46:34.000 For those on the Lotus Eaters website, I'll do this uncensored.

00:46:39.000 When, if this goes out on YouTube, we're going to have to censor basically most of the images

00:46:44.000 that I'm going to show here.

00:46:45.000 Just to be clear, nothing we're going to show is illegal.

00:46:47.000 It's all things that you found in the papers.

00:46:49.000 Yeah.

00:46:50.000 All of the stuff I'm going to show is you can find in art galleries or homes of prominent

00:46:54.000 Democrats.

00:46:55.000 And we know about it because it's being published in the papers.

00:46:57.000 Yes.

00:46:58.000 It's just that it's all vile.

00:47:01.000 But it's proper wrong.

00:47:02.000 So therefore, if you're happy with just listening to descriptions, if you're on YouTube, fine.

00:47:09.000 If not, go to lotuseaters.com and you can see the, you probably wouldn't want to anyway,

00:47:13.000 but you can see the underlying stuff.

00:47:16.000 Before I get into it.

00:47:17.000 Just the thing, it's all done by implication.

00:47:19.000 That's the issue.

00:47:20.000 Yes.

00:47:21.000 Well, and that's very much where I'm going with this.

00:47:23.000 The implication, it does get quite dark.

00:47:25.000 Do go and buy Lotus Eaters.

00:47:28.000 One, because it's very, very good.

00:47:30.000 And two, because we need the money.

00:47:32.000 And with that, I shall begin.

00:47:35.000 So basically, it kind of came to my attention when watching a couple of interviews with

00:47:40.000 Marty May.

00:47:41.000 Because Marty May just got on this Epstein stuff.

00:47:43.000 Yeah.

00:47:44.000 His interview with Tucker was brilliant.

00:47:46.000 Yes.

00:47:47.000 I wasn't that impressed with his Churchill revisionism one.

00:47:50.000 Not that I'm a huge fan of Churchill.

00:47:51.000 I just didn't.

00:47:52.000 I just know there were certain stories you told that I was like, well, I'd have a different

00:47:55.000 interpretation of that.

00:47:56.000 Yes.

00:47:57.000 But I also did a lot of research into the Epstein stuff.

00:47:59.000 Because what it did is it made me realize that I'd kind of misunderstood the Epstein

00:48:03.000 situation.

00:48:04.000 Because I kind of thought at the back of my mind, okay, what it is, is he invites rich,

00:48:08.000 influential, important people to his home.

00:48:10.000 And then he says, oh, isn't it hot or something?

00:48:12.000 Maybe you'd like a massage.

00:48:13.000 And they're like, oh yeah, fair enough.

00:48:14.000 I've been a massage.

00:48:15.000 I've been a massage.

00:48:16.000 And then some girl comes out who's actually 15, but she looks like she could be maybe

00:48:21.000 18.

00:48:22.000 And then they get taken to a room.

00:48:24.000 And then he jumps out afterwards and says, aha, she was actually 15.

00:48:27.000 Right.

00:48:28.000 I thought, I basically thought for the last few years, that was what was going on.

00:48:31.000 You've been very generous.

00:48:32.000 Yeah.

00:48:33.000 It is so much worse than that.

00:48:36.000 And I'm not going to talk about all of it.

00:48:37.000 I'm just going to talk about one aspect of the so much worse.

00:48:40.000 When I started looking at it, it's like, oh, it's so much worse than the so much worse.

00:48:44.000 Right.

00:48:45.000 So there's the Tucker Carlson interview.

00:48:47.000 There's actually a much better interview with my friend Jay Burden, who interviewed Marty

00:48:52.000 Maid.

00:48:53.000 The problem with Tucker, the thing with Marty Maid, right, is when he starts speaking,

00:48:57.000 is he does, he does those pauses thing where he breaks for emphasis.

00:49:02.000 And if you pause on Tucker's show, he immediately jumps in.

00:49:05.000 Whereas Jay kind of knows that and he kind of let him flow.

00:49:08.000 Actually, this is a much better interview for my money for this whole story.

00:49:13.000 So, yeah.

00:49:14.000 So let's get into Epstein's art.

00:49:18.000 So basically, I'm just going to take you through the weirdness and we start with the

00:49:25.000 weirdness of Epstein, but then we swiftly pivot into the weirdness of Democrats.

00:49:29.000 So, I mean, this is, this is from his office, you know, a girl lying on, you know, a skinned

00:49:35.000 line.

00:49:36.000 Skinned line.

00:49:37.000 It's like, okay, fine.

00:49:38.000 Bit odd.

00:49:39.000 Got a bit of one of his mansions going on there.

00:49:42.000 This one is interesting.

00:49:44.000 The, yeah, Bill Clinton in Monica Wilinski's dress.

00:49:48.000 I'm not going to linger on this one for long, apart from to say, note the red shoes.

00:49:54.000 That will, that will come up again later.

00:49:56.000 This was in his Manhattan apartment, wasn't it?

00:49:59.000 Yes.

00:50:00.000 Yes.

00:50:01.000 Note the red shoes.

00:50:02.000 Very interesting.

00:50:03.000 One of it.

00:50:04.000 There he is.

00:50:05.000 There's his, there's his office behind his desk.

00:50:07.000 He's got some gypsy queen with a norks out.

00:50:08.000 Not sure why.

00:50:09.000 Yeah.

00:50:10.000 So what is, yeah, like that's some sort of a cult thing, right?

00:50:13.000 Like I'm, I'm putting mind of like the Marina Abramovich.

00:50:15.000 I don't know what's going on.

00:50:16.000 I just know.

00:50:17.000 Yeah.

00:50:18.000 I have no idea.

00:50:19.000 I just know it's weird.

00:50:20.000 Right.

00:50:21.000 Um, obviously then you've got to have your, and where is it?

00:50:24.000 You've got to have your stuffed tiger in front of your desk.

00:50:27.000 Um, and apparently also I couldn't find a photo of it, but next to the desk on that side

00:50:32.000 was a, was a very realistic stuffed poodle sat there.

00:50:34.000 Like it was, you know, about to come and lick your hand or something.

00:50:36.000 Actually, no, it's just stuffed.

00:50:38.000 Right.

00:50:39.000 Um, so, so oddness.

00:50:40.000 That's normal.

00:50:41.000 Yes.

00:50:42.000 Um, yes.

00:50:43.000 Very various, various bits from him there.

00:50:45.000 Um, here we go.

00:50:46.000 I pulled out.

00:50:47.000 Oh, that's another one.

00:50:48.000 Of course.

00:50:49.000 Another one of his, um, very odd.

00:50:51.000 Yeah.

00:50:52.000 Two towers falling down.

00:50:53.000 Yeah.

00:50:54.000 And, um, and, um, yes, bush.

00:50:56.000 Don't know what's going on there.

00:50:57.000 Um, some more details have emerged very recently.

00:51:00.000 This, I think this only came out today.

00:51:02.000 So this is a look inside.

00:51:04.000 Uh, Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan layer.

00:51:06.000 So yeah, we've got a, a bride being lowered on a rope into, into what?

00:51:11.000 Um, where we couldn't say, uh, photos of Epstein with, you know, various powerful people.

00:51:17.000 Hang on, hang on.

00:51:18.000 So go back to the people.

00:51:19.000 So there's the Pope.

00:51:20.000 Oh yeah.

00:51:21.000 The Pope was in there.

00:51:22.000 Yes.

00:51:23.000 Mick Jagger, Fidel Castro.

00:51:24.000 Yeah.

00:51:25.000 Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Richard Branson.

00:51:28.000 Yes.

00:51:29.000 Steve Bannon.

00:51:30.000 Yes.

00:51:31.000 Bill Gates.

00:51:32.000 Trump.

00:51:33.000 Steve Bannon.

00:51:34.000 Oh yeah.

00:51:35.000 There's Bill.

00:51:36.000 Don't actually know who that is.

00:51:37.000 Yeah.

00:51:38.000 Uh, Branson up there.

00:51:39.000 Yeah.

00:51:40.000 Don't know again who that is.

00:51:42.000 Trump.

00:51:43.000 Melania.

00:51:44.000 Okay.

00:51:45.000 Yep.

00:51:46.000 Yep.

00:51:47.000 Yep.

00:51:48.000 They're in there.

00:51:49.000 There's a, Ham, there's a photo of little St. James there.

00:51:52.000 Is there?

00:51:53.000 Yeah.

00:51:54.000 Oh yeah.

00:51:55.000 It's a photo of his island.

00:51:56.000 Oh yeah.

00:51:57.000 So there's a, there's a, there's a signed bill in there.

00:52:01.000 Yeah.

00:52:02.000 Actually I don't want to focus on this too much, but yeah.

00:52:03.000 William Gates has, um, has signed.

00:52:05.000 Yeah.

00:52:06.000 And then there's Bill Gates in the background there.

00:52:07.000 Like this is all really interesting because it speaks to a remarkable level of vanity.

00:52:11.000 Isn't that MBS as well?

00:52:12.000 Um, Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.

00:52:14.000 Might be.

00:52:15.000 It could be one, but I think that's it.

00:52:16.000 Um, yeah.

00:52:17.000 Anyway.

00:52:18.000 So, um, yeah, various, um, weirdness of, of the Jeffrey Epstein situation.

00:52:22.000 I quite liked, um, oh no, hang on.

00:52:25.000 Um, I, I, I, you, you missed one of my links, Samson.

00:52:30.000 Yes.

00:52:31.000 You missed one of my links.

00:52:32.000 All right.

00:52:33.000 Nevermind.

00:52:34.000 Um, no, I wanted to make the point that I am an art lover myself.

00:52:38.000 Okay.

00:52:39.000 I'm an art.

00:52:40.000 So I don't want anyone to criticize me for not having any taste in art.

00:52:44.000 Um, okay.

00:52:45.000 Because I, because I genuinely do.

00:52:47.000 I've got an extensive art collection myself.

00:52:49.000 It isn't like the Podesta art, is it?

00:52:51.000 No.

00:52:52.000 You know, so, so, you know, this, this, this is one of the things from my collection.

00:52:57.000 Hmm.

00:52:58.000 I, I, I do have a theme.

00:53:00.000 Kind of looks like Tristan Tate.

00:53:02.000 Yes.

00:53:03.000 Somebody in the comments will get the reference to that one.

00:53:05.000 Um, so, you know, I mean, this is the kind of picture which is not only wholesome,

00:53:09.000 but you can lose yourself in it for hours.

00:53:11.000 Mm-hmm.

00:53:12.000 Um, so, um, yes.

00:53:13.000 Thing of beauty.

00:53:14.000 Absolutely.

00:53:15.000 Yes.

00:53:16.000 I mean, that, that is real, that, that, that is, that is real art.

00:53:18.000 That is.

00:53:19.000 So keep them employed.

00:53:20.000 So there we go.

00:53:21.000 So I don't want anyone to make the argument that I don't know good art when I see it,

00:53:25.000 when we go through this stuff.

00:53:26.000 Um, I did have, um, something, a letter from somebody who used to attend, um, his house.

00:53:35.000 And, and, I mean, this is one of his neighbours and he kind of made the point that it looks

00:53:39.000 like, um, Castle Dracula in there.

00:53:42.000 Yeah.

00:53:43.000 And, and he would always, he would always have like the, you know, like the link.

00:53:45.000 Um, no, it's, it's, it's, it's missing that particular link, but you know how Dracula

00:53:49.000 always have like three vampire brides floating around him.

00:53:52.000 Yeah.

00:53:53.000 Um, yeah.

00:53:54.000 So that, that, that was mentioned by one of them.

00:53:56.000 What?

00:53:57.000 Uh, oh yes.

00:53:58.000 Washington life.

00:53:59.000 Now let's have a look at Washington life.

00:54:01.000 So right now I'm going to pivot to where it gets really dark because so far it's just

00:54:08.000 been a bit weird and a bit occulty.

00:54:09.000 Yeah.

00:54:10.000 A bit self-serving.

00:54:11.000 Right.

00:54:12.000 This was published in Washington life and is about the, um, senior Democrat.

00:54:20.000 Can't seem to scroll down on that.

00:54:22.000 This is about the senior Democrat, um, Tony Podesta.

00:54:26.000 Yeah.

00:54:27.000 So, and, and this was just published now.

00:54:29.000 So just a, just a quick summary.

00:54:31.000 He's an American lobbyist.

00:54:32.000 Yes.

00:54:33.000 Podesta group has raised millions and millions of dollars for the Democrats.

00:54:36.000 Oh, well, I mean, there's two Podestas.

00:54:38.000 There's, there's Tony Podesta who is one of the most well-connected high profile lobbyists.

00:54:42.000 And then John Podesta who is formerly the white house chief of staff.

00:54:46.000 Well, he was, yes, he was, he was Clinton the first chief of staff.

00:54:51.000 Um, he was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager and he was also a senior advisor to the Obamas

00:54:58.000 as well.

00:54:59.000 So, I mean, he, he's well connected both of these.

00:55:01.000 These are, these are both as, as high up as you get in, um, in, in, in Democrat world.

00:55:05.000 Oh yeah.

00:55:06.000 What I'll just do is you see in the corner there, that picture that that's kind of where

00:55:11.000 I'm going to go with this.

00:55:12.000 This is where we're going to have to start censoring stuff.

00:55:14.000 Have you seen this?

00:55:15.000 No, it's pretty awful.

00:55:16.000 It's pretty awful.

00:55:17.000 He, he, his, his Tony Podesta, the, um, the creeping question that we're going to go

00:55:21.000 through.

00:55:22.000 Right.

00:55:23.000 So let's have a look at, see if we can blow this up.

00:55:25.000 Right.

00:55:26.000 What, what does he, um, put on his wall and is so proud of that he's quite happy to have

00:55:31.000 shown in Washington live.

00:55:32.000 Before we go on, I mean, can we go back a second?

00:55:35.000 Because that arch of hysteria piece that he's in front of there.

00:55:38.000 So a headless body, like what, I mean, what are we, what are we looking at here?

00:55:42.000 It's very Hellraiser-esque.

00:55:43.000 Right.

00:55:44.000 To be honest, isn't it?

00:55:45.000 Yes.

00:55:46.000 It's pretty freaky.

00:55:47.000 I'd be like, okay, that's odd.

00:55:48.000 It gets so much worse.

00:55:49.000 Good Lord.

00:55:51.000 It, it, it gets quite considerably worse than that.

00:55:53.000 So all right, let's focus on, on this one over here.

00:55:57.000 Um, that I think is, is called synchronized swimming.

00:56:01.000 Um, now I think if the link was included, I, I did a bit of a zoom in.

00:56:06.000 Oh no, that link's missing as well.

00:56:07.000 Oh, here we go.

00:56:08.000 Right.

00:56:09.000 So.

00:56:10.000 It's a bunch of children laying in what I'm going to guess is an empty swimming pool.

00:56:15.000 Yeah.

00:56:16.000 Leaves around them.

00:56:17.000 Is it leaves?

00:56:18.000 Yeah.

00:56:19.000 Leaves around them.

00:56:20.000 And they look, I've seen, I've seen this picture in better quality resolution.

00:56:23.000 And they've all got weird dead eyes.

00:56:25.000 Are some of them not wearing pants?

00:56:27.000 Yeah.

00:56:28.000 Some of them are just in their underwear.

00:56:29.000 Yes.

00:56:30.000 But they've all got like weird dead eyes and like, you know, big black eyes.

00:56:34.000 They're dead.

00:56:35.000 Yeah.

00:56:36.000 They're clearly dead.

00:56:37.000 Yeah.

00:56:38.000 And I, I'm definitely going to come back to your point about being a swimming pool.

00:56:41.000 Right.

00:56:42.000 Because this is, that is where I kind of, um, you know, really.

00:56:45.000 Yeah.

00:56:46.000 Yeah.

00:56:47.000 It was very, very wrong.

00:56:48.000 Um, they are Tony Podesta's favorite artist.

00:56:52.000 His favorite artist is a woman who is, um, I don't want to attack her because she's a

00:57:00.000 young woman who would have been about the age of those girls when she was growing up in

00:57:05.000 the Yugoslavia civil war.

00:57:06.000 And God knows what trauma that is working through.

00:57:09.000 Oh, right.

00:57:10.000 Yeah.

00:57:11.000 That's fair.

00:57:12.000 Um, so I'm not, I can't criticize her, but why does he want it?

00:57:15.000 Yeah.

00:57:16.000 You can criticize someone enjoying the art to a high degree.

00:57:18.000 Yeah.

00:57:19.000 And we've got a very telling piece here from the artist.

00:57:22.000 Let's listen to this.

00:57:23.000 You want to play that, Samson?

00:57:26.000 Yeah.

00:57:27.000 It's pictures.

00:57:28.000 And so there is a story behind the story.

00:57:31.000 So there is a lot of, um, reason why I choose these two elements to be the new part of my

00:57:37.000 painting.

00:57:38.000 And of course, I stay on, uh, on a track with, uh, uh, the fear of human fear.

00:57:44.000 Um, and, uh, I think I always analyze, uh, human fear, not from the point of view of the

00:57:51.000 victim, but always from the point of view of the executor.

00:57:55.000 Right.

00:57:56.000 So she, so that's interesting.

00:57:59.000 Yeah.

00:58:00.000 He's focusing on the point of view of the executor and here's images of dead girls.

00:58:04.000 You can see very dead eyes lying.

00:58:06.000 The point of view of the art.

00:58:08.000 So yeah.

00:58:09.000 Yeah.

00:58:10.000 And yet people, people are enjoying it.

00:58:13.000 I'd like that.

00:58:14.000 Yeah.

00:58:15.000 Yes.

00:58:16.000 That's quite sick, isn't it?

00:58:17.000 Yeah.

00:58:18.000 So we've got various dead girls here with bugs crawling over them.

00:58:20.000 There's a snake.

00:58:21.000 You can't see that well from there, um, slithering over them, all that kind of stuff.

00:58:24.000 Um, let, let's do a slightly deeper dive into some of her art.

00:58:28.000 So, so this is again, um, something where people have assumed, I can't remember what

00:58:32.000 this was.

00:58:33.000 This is her art.

00:58:34.000 This is her art.

00:58:35.000 That, that, that single sentence contextualizes this in such a horrible way.

00:58:39.000 Yes.

00:58:40.000 And I still haven't got to the truly awful bit.

00:58:43.000 Right.

00:58:44.000 Okay.

00:58:45.000 So look at, look at this image.

00:58:46.000 What's going on here?

00:58:47.000 So, so if you're watching on YouTube and we've had to blow this out, which almost certainly

00:58:49.000 well, it's, it's, it's little girls in their underwear lined up in what might be the bottom

00:58:53.000 of a swimming pool.

00:58:54.000 Um, in, in, in, it looks like an execution is about to take place.

00:58:59.000 Look how red their feet are as well.

00:59:00.000 I know.

00:59:01.000 Yeah.

00:59:02.000 They've had to march.

00:59:03.000 They've had their feet beaten or something like their hands and their.

00:59:05.000 Yeah.

00:59:06.000 Um, so here's the horrible bit.

00:59:09.000 That's not a swimming pool.

00:59:11.000 You know, you notice the vents in the ground, the tubing and stuff.

00:59:14.000 It's a shower.

00:59:15.000 Right.

00:59:16.000 I'll tell you what it is.

00:59:17.000 It's an abattoir.

00:59:18.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:59:19.000 Oh, okay.

00:59:20.000 That.

00:59:21.000 Oh yeah.

00:59:22.000 Yeah.

00:59:23.000 Right.

00:59:24.000 Cause you see, if you go back, you can see the, the, the, the pipes.

00:59:26.000 Yep.

00:59:27.000 Hoses and stuff.

00:59:28.000 In fact, we scroll down on here.

00:59:30.000 Jesus.

00:59:31.000 Meat hooks, meat hooks on the avatar wall.

00:59:32.000 The dead woman holding a dead baby with her ankles broken.

00:59:35.000 Um, that is the kind of art she produces.

00:59:40.000 Now again, I'm not going to, I'm not going to beat up on the artists because she went

00:59:44.000 through a civil war in her preteen years.

00:59:46.000 So whatever she's doing to get this out of her system.

00:59:49.000 But people who look at this and think, yes, I want that on my wall.

00:59:53.000 I want that on my wall.

00:59:54.000 And not only that am I, I'm going to have it in a prominent position in my house.

00:59:58.000 I'm going to invite people around all the time because I'm a senior Democrat organizer.

01:00:01.000 I noticed there were chairs around.

01:00:03.000 So you can sit.

01:00:04.000 Yeah.

01:00:05.000 In fact, let's just go back to, back to that.

01:00:06.000 Yeah.

01:00:07.000 So it was, it's set up so they can just sit there and enjoy it.

01:00:10.000 That's so bizarre.

01:00:11.000 And not only am I going to do all of this and invite other senior Democrats around to

01:00:16.000 my home, which he did all the time, apparently.

01:00:18.000 It was a fundraiser.

01:00:19.000 Yeah.

01:00:20.000 When Washington Life want to do a puff piece on me, I'm going to say to make sure you get

01:00:23.000 a shot of this.

01:00:24.000 Yeah.

01:00:25.000 Please come and look at this.

01:00:26.000 Look how sadistic I am.

01:00:27.000 But yeah.

01:00:28.000 That's mad.

01:00:29.000 These, these images over an abattoir.

01:00:31.000 Um, I couldn't get one of the, and you get these floor grates.

01:00:34.000 Cause you don't get those in a swimming pool.

01:00:35.000 You don't get just a great bottom of a swimming pool.

01:00:37.000 You do get them in abattoirs and that's what's going on.

01:00:40.000 Um, in these images.

01:00:42.000 Um, let's go to, um, the, the artists website and you can see, you can see it a bit more clearly

01:00:47.000 now, you know, it's, it's, I mean, that, I mean, showers, um, I mean, it's, it's strong

01:00:52.000 sort of executionist.

01:00:54.000 I mean, it's all about death and suffering and horrible things being done to, to people.

01:00:59.000 You know, again, this, I, I don't want to psychoanalyze, but I think it's the product

01:01:03.000 of somebody who's come through a horrific civil war and God knows what happened.

01:01:06.000 Again, people being marched up in a, in an abattoir there.

01:01:09.000 I mean, uh.

01:01:10.000 Well, yeah.

01:01:11.000 I mean, the, the people in white have skulls for their faces.

01:01:13.000 They are death, right?

01:01:14.000 Yeah.

01:01:15.000 Yeah.

01:01:16.000 I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's not hard to see that there is some sort of trauma

01:01:20.000 and there's, you know, clearly something going on here, but she's got lots of images like

01:01:24.000 that and some of them, um, focus on little girls, um, right dead or in an abattoir.

01:01:33.000 And there you go.

01:01:34.000 That's the one synchronizing one.

01:01:35.000 Again, you can see now that that's an abattoir, not a swimming pool living in oblivion as well.

01:01:40.000 Presumably that's the subset of little girls paradise lost in the bottom right there.

01:01:47.000 Yes.

01:01:48.000 Again, um, the little girls, again, I'm just going to say at this point, note the red shoes.

01:01:54.000 Right.

01:01:55.000 Right.

01:01:56.000 Um, some, something going on with these red shoes and it's, and it's loads of stuff.

01:02:00.000 And so if, if, if Tony Podesta really wanted a piece of art, I mean, there's, there's a whole bunch of, there's a whole bunch in this whole kind of theme of death and industrialized

01:02:07.000 death and stuff, but he picked out the ones which were the little girls in abattoirs, um, to put on his wall and invite people around.

01:02:13.000 Oh yeah.

01:02:14.000 More red shoes.

01:02:15.000 Yeah.

01:02:16.000 So, I mean, it's, it, I mean, it is dark stuff.

01:02:19.000 Um, but yeah, I've mentioned now a couple of times the red shoes, red shoes crop up in this a lot.

01:02:23.000 And I don't know the answer to what's going on here, but this is one of Tony Podesta's party.

01:02:27.000 Where they're all wearing red shoes.

01:02:29.000 Where they're all wearing red shoes.

01:02:32.000 Hmm.

01:02:33.000 I don't know why they're wearing red shoes.

01:02:35.000 All I know is that his favorite artist is somebody who shows little girls in abattoirs.

01:02:41.000 And the little girls in abattoirs are wearing red shoes.

01:02:44.000 Um, I know that Jeff, um, that Jeffrey Epstein photo of, of Bill Clinton, he was wearing very prominent red shoes.

01:02:50.000 And when he has a house party, everybody has to turn up in red shoes.

01:02:54.000 There's some.

01:02:55.000 Is it going to be connected to the Wizard of Oz in some way?

01:02:57.000 Wasn't there red shoes in that?

01:02:59.000 That's, that's a very charitable interpretation.

01:03:01.000 I'm not, I'm not saying it's not weird and perverse.

01:03:03.000 Obviously it is, but like, is there going to be a weird and perverse interpretation of Dorothy lost in Kansas?

01:03:08.000 So all I can tell you is I don't know what's going on.

01:03:11.000 If I found out, I'm pretty sure I'd be even more horrified than I already am.

01:03:16.000 Did he commission some of this artwork or did he just buy it?

01:03:20.000 I don't know.

01:03:21.000 Probably not, but I don't know.

01:03:23.000 I don't know.

01:03:24.000 Someone that, that high up, that wealthy could easily commission pieces of artwork.

01:03:29.000 Yeah.

01:03:30.000 And, and Ben, and one of the things, interesting things that came out of the Tucker interview is that apparently Tucker was his neighbor or something for years.

01:03:36.000 Really?

01:03:37.000 Yeah.

01:03:38.000 And he said he never went around to his home.

01:03:40.000 Um, but this guy was entertaining constantly.

01:03:42.000 Yeah.

01:03:43.000 Almost every night he would have a whole bunch of Democrats around.

01:03:46.000 So for years, everybody who's something in Democrat politics went through his house and went to those seats.

01:03:54.000 Well, he saw those images of girls in abattoirs and just thought, yeah, fair enough.

01:03:59.000 She's normal, isn't it?

01:04:01.000 Little girls in an abattoir.

01:04:02.000 Yeah.

01:04:03.000 Why not?

01:04:04.000 What's the issue there?

01:04:05.000 And, um, and all the little girls have got red shoes on.

01:04:07.000 Me too.

01:04:08.000 And when he says to them, yeah, by the way, I'm inviting you to dinner and you've got to turn

01:04:10.000 up in red shoes.

01:04:11.000 They're just like, they're fine.

01:04:12.000 Yeah.

01:04:13.000 No worries, mate.

01:04:14.000 Pictures of children suffering in and with, with very dark undertones.

01:04:19.000 From an artist who says that what she's going for is, is from the perspective of the executioner.

01:04:26.000 Hmm.

01:04:27.000 And again, I, I mean, I, I can't claim to fully understand what is going on here.

01:04:33.000 Um, I think this is only scratching the surface of how dark this stuff goes.

01:04:37.000 That is mad.

01:04:38.000 Yeah.

01:04:39.000 Um, before we move on, well, I think the, before we move on then very quickly, uh, Samsung,

01:04:44.000 can you do me a favor and look up the Madeline McCann suspect profiles pictures?

01:04:50.000 Yeah.

01:04:51.000 Okay.

01:04:52.000 Right.

01:04:53.000 Cause this is weird because like you, you know what Tony Podesta looks like, right?

01:05:02.000 Hmm.

01:05:03.000 Oh really?

01:05:04.000 Yeah.

01:05:05.000 If, um, where is it?

01:05:07.000 Oh, there's, there's been some new, yeah, there was, there was, um, there was one where

01:05:12.000 it looks like John and Tony Podesta, but I guess that's just not coming up on Google.

01:05:17.000 This is the old one.

01:05:18.000 You gotta do like 2025 or something.

01:05:19.000 What, for Madeline McCann?

01:05:20.000 He went to Spain.

01:05:21.000 I don't know.

01:05:22.000 I'm, I'm not saying that he did.

01:05:23.000 I'm just saying they look a lot like the photo fits.

01:05:26.000 There we go.

01:05:28.000 Hmm.

01:05:29.000 Right there in the middle.

01:05:30.000 There's just that, just that image.

01:05:31.000 Just click on the image, Samsung.

01:05:33.000 Yeah.

01:05:34.000 Hmm.

01:05:36.000 That doesn't look at all.

01:05:38.000 You know, that doesn't look a million miles away from John and Tony Podesta.

01:05:41.000 It's actually kind of weird.

01:05:43.000 That is kind of weird.

01:05:44.000 Yeah.

01:05:45.000 It does.

01:05:46.000 It looks like them 20 years ago, whatever it was.

01:05:47.000 Right.

01:05:48.000 And it's like, it looks really like them as well.

01:05:50.000 And it's like, okay, that's weird, but sorry.

01:05:51.000 Anyway.

01:05:52.000 Okay.

01:05:53.000 Um, so we're going to have to, but we're going to need a palette cleanser.

01:05:56.000 We're going to need to bring us back.

01:05:57.000 Cause, cause that was quite dark.

01:05:58.000 We're going to need to bring us back.

01:05:59.000 So I'm going to share something else with my own art collection.

01:06:01.000 Okay.

01:06:02.000 Um, there we go.

01:06:03.000 That is.

01:06:05.000 Flash man.

01:06:06.000 Exactly.

01:06:07.000 You got the reference of this one.

01:06:08.000 That's good.

01:06:09.000 That's flash man.

01:06:10.000 It wasn't the image before wasn't quite doing it for me.

01:06:13.000 So I had the artist make some modifications to it.

01:06:15.000 I even put the wife on the, um, Indian harlot.

01:06:18.000 Um, she's not wild about it.

01:06:20.000 I must say.

01:06:21.000 I bet she's.

01:06:22.000 But I, but she's always complaining that every, everything in my house is just images

01:06:25.000 of me.

01:06:26.000 And I thought, well, okay, I'll put you in.

01:06:28.000 And she didn't bloody like that either.

01:06:30.000 Did she?

01:06:31.000 Anyway.

01:06:32.000 Um, I've also, well, actually this one is a bit unusual for me.

01:06:34.000 I've also got an original, um, uh, Pharaoh.

01:06:37.000 Oh yeah.

01:06:38.000 Um, which, which is a lovely.

01:06:39.000 I must get it framed.

01:06:40.000 I haven't got around to it yet.

01:06:41.000 Um, it doesn't deserve blue tack.

01:06:43.000 Um, I will point out Alexander Adams.

01:06:45.000 He does, um, he, he's very active in right wing art and he's doing, um, you know, gallery

01:06:52.000 shows and stuff like that.

01:06:54.000 Um, he's promoting basically everybody in, in right wing art.

01:06:57.000 So he's worth following if you want to get into that.

01:06:59.000 Um, yeah, there you go.

01:07:00.000 He mentions Pharaoh.

01:07:01.000 I've got one of his, um, and actually, um, one of, for me, one of the standouts in the

01:07:07.000 right wing art spheres is this chap, Fender Villers.

01:07:09.000 He does, he does statues.

01:07:10.000 I want to get a Fender Villers before long, but we have a quick look as a palette cleanse

01:07:15.000 on some of his art.

01:07:16.000 Um, I mean, it already looks a lot more heroic.

01:07:19.000 Oh yeah.

01:07:20.000 From what?

01:07:21.000 Here we go.

01:07:22.000 That's one of his.

01:07:23.000 Yeah.

01:07:24.000 So he's basically men battling against adversary.

01:07:26.000 So, so he's, he's an image of huge adversary coming his way and he's just powering through

01:07:30.000 it.

01:07:31.000 Prometheus.

01:07:32.000 Yes.

01:07:33.000 Um, uh, got to get the Bowden in there, haven't we?

01:07:36.000 I'm sure we get some other pieces from him fairly.

01:07:39.000 There we go.

01:07:40.000 It, it, it looks almost, um, I don't know, sort of Soviet-esque.

01:07:45.000 Yeah.

01:07:46.000 There was an element of that.

01:07:47.000 Almost, isn't it?

01:07:48.000 An element of confidence.

01:07:49.000 But the point I'm making is this is what right wing art looks like.

01:07:51.000 Yeah.

01:07:52.000 It's heroic.

01:07:53.000 Um, it, it, it, it celebration of masculine.

01:07:55.000 Yes.

01:07:56.000 It's a celebration of masculinity against adversity.

01:07:58.000 It is not.

01:07:59.000 It's aspirational.

01:08:00.000 It's not.

01:08:01.000 Disgusting.

01:08:02.000 Execution.

01:08:03.000 Of children.

01:08:04.000 Against powerless people.

01:08:05.000 Yeah.

01:08:06.000 And I think there was a pretty fundamental difference there.

01:08:07.000 I think you're right.

01:08:09.000 Yeah.

01:08:10.000 Right.

01:08:11.000 We've got some of these commoncy things, haven't we?

01:08:12.000 It's harrowing.

01:08:13.000 Um, the engaged few says, these pieces remind me of when I read that left wing uprisings

01:08:17.000 are motivated by fear.

01:08:18.000 Right wing motivate uprisings are motivated by disgust.

01:08:21.000 Um, yeah.

01:08:22.000 Hmm.

01:08:23.000 I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm in the mood for an uprising after watching all that.

01:08:28.000 Jesus Christ.

01:08:29.000 Uh, demons walk among us, among us wearing human skin suits.

01:08:33.000 When we win, we must create a system that keeps any of these creatures far away from

01:08:36.000 any power.

01:08:37.000 Uh, well, I mean, I, I personally, I mean, obviously I think that the Podestas and the

01:08:41.000 rest of them, there's just something really vile going on.

01:08:44.000 Uh, you know, conspiracy theories aside.

01:08:46.000 So, right, let's go to the video comments.

01:08:49.000 Like I said, enjoy nature.

01:08:56.000 Until society hits ya.

01:08:59.000 Oh yeah, the little can.

01:09:02.000 Yeah.

01:09:03.000 So this, this is a problem.

01:09:04.000 What am I missing?

01:09:05.000 There's a can in the middle.

01:09:06.000 Yeah.

01:09:07.000 Oh.

01:09:08.000 So this, this is an issue that a lot of people in Britain are, uh, encountering.

01:09:11.000 Do you remember in school, um, you were taught in school, not to litter in the countryside,

01:09:17.000 but also to like close the gate whenever you walk through a gate to make sure the farm's

01:09:21.000 animals didn't get out or whatever.

01:09:22.000 Cause obviously, you know, you can walk anywhere, which is actually kind of unusual.

01:09:26.000 All of that's just gone.

01:09:27.000 The country of private property.

01:09:28.000 Uh, but you can walk anywhere.

01:09:29.000 You just have to be respectful to the land that you're on.

01:09:31.000 And what I think that has done is inculcated a sense of possession.

01:09:34.000 Mm.

01:09:35.000 Right.

01:09:36.000 Cause I've seen a lot of people complaining about, well, foreigners, you know, Indians,

01:09:39.000 Pakistanis, whoever, who have moved here.

01:09:40.000 And then they're going to these sort of like areas of the country that are like places

01:09:45.000 where you go on holiday and just making a complete mess of it.

01:09:47.000 Yeah.

01:09:48.000 And not taking care of it.

01:09:49.000 And, uh, it was Paul Joseph Watson.

01:09:50.000 I think he was like, why is this bothering me more than them being in the cities?

01:09:54.000 It's like, because this was ours.

01:09:55.000 Yeah.

01:09:56.000 You used to be aware of a location you could have some respite from.

01:10:00.000 Exactly.

01:10:01.000 Go and enjoy it.

01:10:02.000 And it also, I think, you know, the countryside in the, in, in the UK, in England, um, it's

01:10:09.000 something which really resonates and speaks to your soul.

01:10:12.000 Yes.

01:10:13.000 And so when you see people effectively desecrating it, it, it irks you beyond belief.

01:10:20.000 Sure.

01:10:21.000 Have the cities.

01:10:22.000 Do we, do we, no, I don't like the cities, but you know, yeah.

01:10:24.000 Yeah.

01:10:25.000 Not the countryside.

01:10:26.000 Yeah.

01:10:27.000 Like of all things, not the countryside.

01:10:28.000 I think you're right.

01:10:29.000 There, there is something genuinely, like I.

01:10:31.000 It's ancient.

01:10:32.000 It's ancient.

01:10:33.000 But it's not just that.

01:10:34.000 There's a sense of possession over it.

01:10:35.000 Like everyone basically feels like the countryside is an extension of their own back garden.

01:10:40.000 Like you just wander around.

01:10:41.000 Yeah.

01:10:42.000 I'm just going to go one of those.

01:10:43.000 Why?

01:10:44.000 Because I know there are no bears or wolves out there.

01:10:45.000 Yeah.

01:10:46.000 And the only thing I'm ever going to meet is another Englishman on the path.

01:10:47.000 And I'll say, good morning.

01:10:48.000 How's it going?

01:10:49.000 Lovely dog.

01:10:50.000 And then you just walk on and it'll just be like you're walking your own back garden.

01:10:52.000 Yeah.

01:10:53.000 A bunch of foreigners suddenly intruding in our space and messing it up and making an

01:10:58.000 absolute.

01:10:59.000 And then, you know, who knows what else.

01:11:00.000 Like it's, it's honestly one of those things that bothers me far more deeply than I thought

01:11:04.000 it would.

01:11:05.000 Yeah.

01:11:06.000 I really hate it.

01:11:07.000 Yes.

01:11:08.000 Get out of our shires.

01:11:09.000 I just view it as a place where they, they just don't belong there.

01:11:12.000 They just don't belong there.

01:11:13.000 But that's it.

01:11:14.000 They don't belong there.

01:11:15.000 And that's true because we were inculcated in school as we were growing up.

01:11:19.000 This is a collective property of everyone.

01:11:21.000 You have to take care of it.

01:11:23.000 And the next guy who comes along, he'll take care of it too.

01:11:26.000 And so everyone will have a lovely experience in the countryside on a lovely warm summer's

01:11:29.000 day where the birds are singing, the wind's blowing through the trees and you know,

01:11:33.000 things really pleasant.

01:11:34.000 And the thing is, this is represented like this, this is, this sort of quintessential

01:11:39.000 picture that I'm painting is really fully present in the Robin Hood tales.

01:11:43.000 Yeah.

01:11:44.000 This is where Robin Hood escapes to, to escape from the tyranny.

01:11:46.000 He goes to the Greenwood and it's always set in the summer.

01:11:48.000 And it's always, they're just wandering merrily carefree through the, through the woods

01:11:53.000 in England.

01:11:54.000 And it's exactly, they describe it in exactly the way it is now.

01:11:57.000 And then, so for a bunch of like Indians and Pakistanis and whoever else to come along

01:12:00.000 and just start throwing rubbish everywhere and just making a complete mess of it.

01:12:02.000 It's like, this is, this is our heritage, you know, get, get out.

01:12:06.000 You do not belong here.

01:12:07.000 It's genuinely how I feel about it.

01:12:09.000 Sorry, just gonna quickly sidetrack.

01:12:11.000 Yep.

01:12:12.000 To all the people in the, in the chat asking me if my wife is Indian.

01:12:15.000 No, but in the fact, in the Flashman novels, on his, on his campaign, on his way out of

01:12:21.000 India, he purchases an Indian hall and takes him with him on the campaign.

01:12:24.000 And because she's.

01:12:25.000 So I destroyed, I portrayed my wife as that.

01:12:27.000 Yeah.

01:12:28.000 And because she's in the image, I thought I saw an opportunity to win brownie points.

01:12:31.000 I don't think that's.

01:12:32.000 Yes.

01:12:33.000 No, it didn't work.

01:12:34.000 Yeah, I did.

01:12:35.000 Yeah.

01:12:36.000 That's the story as to why she ended up on the image.

01:12:37.000 It's a great.

01:12:38.000 He tried.

01:12:39.000 The question is why you thought that was going to win you brownie points.

01:12:41.000 Because she was complaining that she's never in any of the pictures.

01:12:43.000 So I have depicted you as an Indian whore.

01:12:46.000 Well that.

01:12:47.000 He tried.

01:12:48.000 God loves a trier.

01:12:49.000 Yeah, but your wife.

01:12:51.000 Yeah, but that's what I had to work with on that particular image.

01:12:54.000 So, you know, I thought I made the effort, you know.

01:12:57.000 Just a quick super chat has come in.

01:12:58.000 I thought his, Tony Podesta, yeah, Tony Podesta's brother or someone else is essentially colored

01:13:03.000 stick figures or small figures being seemingly abused.

01:13:05.000 Also, don't forget them hiring the spirit cooking lady to perform at parties.

01:13:08.000 Yeah, there's a whole really degenerate and frankly evil culture in that sort of sphere.

01:13:15.000 Like, I mean, I don't know whether the younger ones also do this, but this is definitely that

01:13:19.000 sort of age bracket, the sort of, you know, boomer types who have just been involved in

01:13:24.000 something truly gross.

01:13:25.000 Anyway, let's, let's move on to the next one.

01:13:27.000 Everything is just fine.

01:13:29.000 These fish fingers are a steal.

01:13:31.000 Price is up a smidge.

01:13:33.000 Just a hundred quid a meal.

01:13:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:35.000 Paying off my law degree.

01:13:38.000 With tips from each delivery.

01:13:41.000 Excuse me, sir, I have your tandoori.

01:13:46.000 Everything is just fine.

01:13:52.000 Everything is fine.

01:13:57.000 I love these adverts.

01:13:59.000 Well, that's a Coinbase advert pointing out that Britain's shit.

01:14:03.000 I mean, they're 100% right.

01:14:05.000 I mean, if anything, you know, if only they were sort of singing and dancing in the streets.

01:14:09.000 You've got the delivery drivers wrong, though.

01:14:11.000 Yeah.

01:14:12.000 Some of them were white.

01:14:13.000 Yeah, I saw that too.

01:14:14.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 Some of them might have been in the country legally.

01:14:17.000 You've got, um, Kemi, whatever, Badenok, commenting on this recently.

01:14:23.000 She's trying to up her PR game and it's just embarrassing.

01:14:26.000 It's absolutely embarrassing.

01:14:27.000 Oh, this is offensive and blah, blah, blah.

01:14:30.000 Unfortunately.

01:14:31.000 It led to the ruin, love.

01:14:32.000 It's accurate.

01:14:33.000 That's the problem.

01:14:34.000 Like, accurately represents our bloody country.

01:14:36.000 God.

01:14:37.000 I love her, the idea that she's going to, oh, I'm going to go on a PR game.

01:14:40.000 She's like, yeah, but you're kind of unlikable.

01:14:42.000 I thought she called herself an Essex girl that day.

01:14:44.000 I'm not Nigerian.

01:14:45.000 I bet you are, though.

01:14:46.000 Yeah.

01:14:47.000 You are.

01:14:48.000 I actually made a video pointing out that she, I mean, she married a Scotsman, so she's

01:14:51.000 got some...

01:14:52.000 I get it.

01:14:53.000 She joined the tribe.

01:14:54.000 I understand.

01:14:55.000 She's just...

01:14:56.000 It's not winning.

01:14:57.000 It's desperation and it's apparent because it's a quick heel turn.

01:14:59.000 Yeah.

01:15:00.000 So I quite like the way that they do it in 13 Warriors because basically this Arab turns

01:15:05.000 up and they're a bit suspicious of him, but they don't kill him and he proves himself

01:15:10.000 and he kind of joins the tribe.

01:15:12.000 And I kind of like that model.

01:15:13.000 And for women, the model would be like you say, if you marry into it.

01:15:15.000 I can accept that.

01:15:16.000 Yeah.

01:15:17.000 Well, it used to be what it was.

01:15:18.000 Yes.

01:15:19.000 But if you get accepted into the tribe, you don't end up leading the tribe.

01:15:22.000 No.

01:15:23.000 There are some things that you just don't do.

01:15:24.000 Yeah.

01:15:25.000 Yeah.

01:15:26.000 No, that's exactly right.

01:15:27.000 You shouldn't be trying to lead the tribe either.

01:15:28.000 It's inappropriate.

01:15:29.000 Anyway, Mr. H's stolen car says...

01:15:32.000 Did you have your car stolen?

01:15:34.000 I did, actually.

01:15:35.000 I did a segment.

01:15:36.000 Did a segment hear about it in the crime rates of London?

01:15:39.000 I didn't see that.

01:15:40.000 Yeah.

01:15:41.000 It's worth noting that the Democrats through FEMA deliberately didn't give aid to Trump

01:15:44.000 supporters after Hurricane Helene.

01:15:45.000 And now Trump plans to do something similar.

01:15:47.000 Yeah, but the problem is like...

01:15:49.000 But that just makes you...

01:15:50.000 It's evil, right?

01:15:51.000 And they were evil for doing it.

01:15:53.000 And at least they...

01:15:55.000 There's a kind of like...

01:15:56.000 At least they were doing it for what they think is the right cause for America, right?

01:16:00.000 Now, obviously, the Democrats have got an evil agenda for America.

01:16:02.000 But at least they're still like, yeah, we're gonna...

01:16:04.000 You know, this is the true America we're gonna do.

01:16:06.000 And, you know, we'll hurt our opponents.

01:16:08.000 Trump's doing it for a foreign power, man.

01:16:11.000 So, it's like weird and really, really inappropriate.

01:16:16.000 Also, you should be seen as like the father to all.

01:16:19.000 Exactly.

01:16:20.000 No matter what the political leanings are.

01:16:21.000 That's the point.

01:16:22.000 That's what it should be.

01:16:23.000 Yeah.

01:16:24.000 So, the...

01:16:25.000 Like...

01:16:26.000 It's just...

01:16:27.000 Absolutely atrocious.

01:16:28.000 I don't know why he's doing any of this.

01:16:30.000 Baron Von Warhawk says,

01:16:31.000 Dan, to answer your question about why Israel can get away with so much stuff,

01:16:34.000 just remember who makes up 20-25% of the billionaire population.

01:16:37.000 Who owns the four biggest media groups?

01:16:38.000 Who owns the world's biggest banks?

01:16:40.000 And after that, start thinking about Epstein's connections to a certain intelligence...

01:16:43.000 A person has to go straight to the central banks.

01:16:45.000 Yeah.

01:16:46.000 And it's donors, man.

01:16:47.000 I think AIPAC is a lot of it.

01:16:49.000 Yeah.

01:16:50.000 It's like...

01:16:51.000 Because they just...

01:16:52.000 We're going to give you loads of money.

01:16:53.000 We're going to fill your pockets with gold.

01:16:54.000 I mean, spoiler, I have thought about this a bit.

01:16:56.000 I'm just not saying it on YouTube.

01:16:58.000 Yeah.

01:16:59.000 Yeah.

01:17:00.000 It's so weird that Trump feels such loyalty to Israel.

01:17:11.000 I just don't understand it.

01:17:12.000 This is not necessary.

01:17:13.000 And he should be calling the shots.

01:17:15.000 And I'm surprised his ego isn't too big for him to not be calling the shots.

01:17:19.000 Yeah.

01:17:20.000 If it was one guy, I could accept it, but it's every president.

01:17:23.000 Yeah.

01:17:24.000 Yeah.

01:17:25.000 Yeah.

01:17:26.000 Absolutely.

01:17:27.000 George says, both populist leaders turned out to be containment.

01:17:30.000 Trump is just less obvious about it.

01:17:32.000 My only hope is that the patriots want to grow charismatic figures and act on principle.

01:17:36.000 The Epstein backlash is a perfect example.

01:17:38.000 Yeah.

01:17:39.000 The problem is the fact that we live in a democracy.

01:17:42.000 So...

01:17:43.000 Clip that as you like.

01:17:45.000 The issue is...

01:17:46.000 The issue is...

01:17:47.000 I mean, but it is literally that, though.

01:17:48.000 Yeah.

01:17:49.000 I mean, that is in context.

01:17:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:51.000 It's correct.

01:17:52.000 You need the charismatic populist figure to win an election.

01:17:54.000 Right?

01:17:55.000 That's just the way democracy works.

01:17:56.000 Charismatic popular figures win elections, which is why Kemi Badenok will never win an election.

01:18:01.000 She is not charismatic.

01:18:02.000 She is not popular.

01:18:03.000 She's just not.

01:18:04.000 She's not likable.

01:18:05.000 And she's a charisma vacuum.

01:18:06.000 Exactly.

01:18:07.000 Boris is an arch traitor, but I think that he's the genuine threat to Farah.

01:18:10.000 I mean, Starmer managed to win an election.

01:18:12.000 Yeah, but that's only because Farah came in and knee-swept the Tories.

01:18:16.000 Yeah.

01:18:17.000 But if Boris comes back, Farah could be in serious trouble.

01:18:20.000 Because Boris will just lie, and he'll just do it in a jovial way that people like.

01:18:24.000 You know, it's all about likability, I'm afraid.

01:18:27.000 James says,

01:18:28.000 If the IDF keep gunning down groups of civilians waiting for food, where is the footage?

01:18:32.000 Apparently it keeps happening, but I've never seen the footage.

01:18:34.000 Well, I'm just reporting what they've said.

01:18:37.000 I haven't gone looking for the footage.

01:18:39.000 But, I mean, even if it's just allegations, you think that needs to be dealt with.

01:18:43.000 Right?

01:18:44.000 You think these, I mean, you know, Human Rights Watch-

01:18:46.000 Just on an optics level, surely.

01:18:48.000 Like, Human Rights Watch aren't, you know, they're a recognized institution.

01:18:52.000 Right?

01:18:53.000 And so if they're making the allegation that you're gunning down people, like, there should

01:18:56.000 be a bit more concern.

01:18:58.000 I mean, if it was the Garzans making those claims, I'd just ignore that.

01:19:00.000 If it was a mass saying.

01:19:01.000 I'd be like, okay.

01:19:02.000 But it's formal IDF people are saying this stuff.

01:19:04.000 Yeah.

01:19:05.000 Yeah.

01:19:06.000 Um, Jerome says, uh, starvation in Palestine is fake.

01:19:10.000 They showed two literal skeletons in a hospital, but the people around them were all well-fed.

01:19:14.000 Our new stations are broadcasting mass propaganda.

01:19:16.000 Well, I don't know.

01:19:17.000 You know, this is another reason why I didn't-

01:19:18.000 I mean, that may also be true.

01:19:19.000 Yeah, it might be true.

01:19:20.000 That's the thing.

01:19:21.000 Like, I don't, I'm not saying there's no validity to the Israeli narrative on these

01:19:24.000 things either.

01:19:25.000 Um, anyway.

01:19:26.000 It doesn't, it certainly doesn't refute the fact that Trump is doing some really bizarre

01:19:31.000 things for Israel.

01:19:32.000 Exactly.

01:19:33.000 None of those things-

01:19:34.000 And that Israel is massively overreaching as well.

01:19:36.000 Yeah.

01:19:37.000 You know, it's, it's crazy how far they're going.

01:19:40.000 Roman Observer says, you can talk about stuff that affects the whole society, like crime,

01:19:45.000 prisons, justice, even if you're not an expert.

01:19:47.000 It's like, really?

01:19:48.000 Well, thank you.

01:19:49.000 I'm glad that I'm allowed.

01:19:50.000 Because, uh, they would have it so I can't.

01:19:52.000 And the thing is, the, the, the, the thing about the, like, the appeal to expertise,

01:19:55.000 the only reason they do it is just to shut you up.

01:19:57.000 Just so they don't have to have the conversation with you.

01:19:59.000 You don't have to accept it, actually.

01:20:01.000 Uh, Arizona Desert Rat says, biological men do not belong in a prison cell with a woman.

01:20:05.000 This is hardly controversial.

01:20:06.000 Uh, there have been many women in several countries who were raped by men claiming to

01:20:09.000 be trans.

01:20:10.000 Yeah, Karen White is an example of this, uh, that we use, you know, that happened a few

01:20:14.000 years ago.

01:20:15.000 Uh, but it was literally a man in a wig.

01:20:17.000 And, uh, he was like, I'm a chick.

01:20:20.000 Put me in with the chicks.

01:20:21.000 And then he kept molesting the women in the news.

01:20:24.000 Who could have been surprised?

01:20:25.000 Uh, Jimbo says, I've never liked Farage, but his wet finger in the air is sickening.

01:20:30.000 I agree.

01:20:31.000 But it's actually really weird, though, that he's put his finger up and gone, yeah.

01:20:35.000 So everyone's pro trans now, right?

01:20:37.000 Yeah.

01:20:38.000 It's like, no, Nigel.

01:20:39.000 That's the, no, that, that was five years ago.

01:20:41.000 Yes.

01:20:42.000 Like, everyone's now anti-trans.

01:20:44.000 It's so behind the curve.

01:20:45.000 It's so.

01:20:46.000 Is he just really behind on his Twitter feed?

01:20:48.000 He's just.

01:20:49.000 I don't know.

01:20:50.000 I just have no idea.

01:20:51.000 Really strange.

01:20:52.000 The whole thing is very bizarre.

01:20:54.000 He's, he carries on.

01:20:55.000 The greatest crime in British history is happening in front of our eyes.

01:20:57.000 And the Uniparty desperately don't want you to know what they've done.

01:20:59.000 I think this is way worse than people imagine.

01:21:01.000 And Nigel doesn't seem interested in why it's happening.

01:21:04.000 Just managing the aftermath.

01:21:05.000 Uh, which is true.

01:21:06.000 Nigel Farage, like, he's always leading from the rear.

01:21:09.000 Which is incredible, obviously, for a populist leader.

01:21:13.000 But, just again, why this issue, Nige?

01:21:16.000 Well, again, you know, that whole, where that originated from.

01:21:20.000 The soundbite of men and women's prisons.

01:21:23.000 It was all to do with Britain's lawless.

01:21:25.000 It's like, yeah, okay.

01:21:26.000 Why though, Nigel?

01:21:27.000 Why is it lawless?

01:21:28.000 What have we done to our culture?

01:21:29.000 What have you, what's been imported?

01:21:31.000 I don't think trans prisoners are actually number one on that list.

01:21:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:35.000 You see what I mean?

01:21:36.000 Like, it's.

01:21:37.000 Of all that, but it just goes to show just how, how disconnected from the main issues he actually is.

01:21:44.000 It's like, well, are we talking about this instead?

01:21:46.000 It's like, no, Nigel.

01:21:48.000 You need to deport millions of people.

01:21:51.000 I was gonna say that.

01:21:52.000 Millions.

01:21:53.000 I'll cover this at some point.

01:21:54.000 Yesterday, I mean, I guess we'll probably cover it on the podcast tomorrow.

01:21:56.000 Yesterday, there was a YouGov poll that came out that showed 45% of people just want hard re-migration.

01:22:01.000 Yeah.

01:22:02.000 Stop all incoming and just send millions home.

01:22:05.000 Yeah.

01:22:06.000 And that was, that was 45% on the most extreme positions.

01:22:08.000 The thing is, if you're, if you're pro-immigration, you should cut your losses now.

01:22:11.000 Yeah.

01:22:12.000 And be like, okay, well, look, we're not going to re-migrate people who, you know.

01:22:15.000 Been here for 10 years.

01:22:16.000 Just try and spend.

01:22:17.000 Been here for 15, pick a number.

01:22:18.000 Yeah.

01:22:19.000 But we are going to do the rest of it.

01:22:20.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 And that would make it all go away.

01:22:22.000 Yeah.

01:22:23.000 But instead, they're going to push it to the point where it is actually people who have

01:22:26.000 been here and got married into the culture and all the rest of it.

01:22:28.000 Yeah.

01:22:29.000 It's like, and personally, I think that's going too far.

01:22:31.000 I do.

01:22:32.000 Yeah.

01:22:33.000 I'm not on the Steve Law's position.

01:22:34.000 Yeah.

01:22:35.000 But they're going to push us to that point by being so intransigent on no every rapist must

01:22:40.000 stay.

01:22:41.000 Yeah.

01:22:42.000 And you have to pay for it.

01:22:43.000 Yes.

01:22:44.000 I mean, like, last year, like, Keir Starmer, like, last year, the numbers came out and it

01:22:47.000 was over a million people they let into the country.

01:22:48.000 It's like, what are you doing?

01:22:49.000 It's mental.

01:22:50.000 It's actually mental.

01:22:51.000 It's the city the size of Birmingham is being let into the country.

01:22:54.000 And no city is the size of Birmingham being made.

01:22:56.000 And this is the year one year out.

01:22:58.000 And then people are like, leftists are like, this is fine.

01:23:01.000 Billionaires are making money on houses.

01:23:03.000 You're like, how are they doing that?

01:23:08.000 But at this point now, it's not the Boris wave.

01:23:10.000 It's the new normal.

01:23:11.000 Yeah.

01:23:12.000 It's a million a year.

01:23:13.000 It's just what they do.

01:23:14.000 It's disgusting.

01:23:15.000 It's actually disgusting.

01:23:16.000 Absolutely insane.

01:23:17.000 Henry says, why do prisoners deserve to be treated with dignity by default?

01:23:20.000 Yeah.

01:23:21.000 Joys of human rights for murderers and rapists, forcing the country to bend over and take

01:23:24.000 it again.

01:23:25.000 Well, this is why I approve of Bekele just being like, no, frog march them, you know, in

01:23:29.000 their underwear into prison.

01:23:30.000 Yeah.

01:23:31.000 And I think he's being too lenient.

01:23:32.000 I mean, if the British public had their way, we'd have the death penalty back.

01:23:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:38.000 Because the majority of the British public want the death penalty.

01:23:41.000 100%.

01:23:42.000 They always have.

01:23:43.000 And then all these stupid governors are like, oh, but it's humanity and decency.

01:23:46.000 No, shut up.

01:23:47.000 Shut up.

01:23:48.000 Go join Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain.

01:23:49.000 That's one of their policies.

01:23:51.000 Restore the death penalty.

01:23:52.000 It's great.

01:23:53.000 What I like about that as well, it's like, you know, it's just quiet.

01:23:56.000 And then Rupert Lowe's like, we need to kill some people.

01:23:58.000 It's like, yeah, no, that's right.

01:24:00.000 Axel Rudd Kibana is still alive.

01:24:02.000 Yeah.

01:24:03.000 Metal Dave says, oh, dear, that reform discussion on the trans prison issue is the most toe-curlingly

01:24:08.000 awkward, evasive answer ever.

01:24:10.000 It reminds me of when they interviewed Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court.

01:24:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:15.000 When asked, what is a woman?

01:24:16.000 And she's like, I'm not an expert or knowledgeable enough to answer.

01:24:18.000 Which is literally Farage's answer is the Supreme Court diversity hire for the Democrats.

01:24:24.000 He's on exactly the same page.

01:24:26.000 Well, you know.

01:24:27.000 Funnily enough, it turns out that Kenji Sugar Brown Jackson was not knowledgeable enough

01:24:32.000 on literally everything, including the Constitution.

01:24:34.000 Yes.

01:24:35.000 So, I mean, it was an accurate statement.

01:24:37.000 She wasn't a biologist.

01:24:38.000 I guess she wasn't a lawyer either.

01:24:39.000 No.

01:24:40.000 Anne says, great art, Dan.

01:24:43.000 Is that picture also available painted on black velvet?

01:24:47.000 That's how I picture many paintings in your country estate.

01:24:50.000 I like it.

01:24:52.000 I like this idea.

01:24:53.000 I'm going to make a note.

01:24:55.000 Ah, right.

01:24:56.000 Sophie says, there is a Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale just called The Red Shoes.

01:25:01.000 It ends with an angel chubbing the feet off a little girl with his sword.

01:25:06.000 So I don't know, man.

01:25:07.000 And like, but that's the thing, right?

01:25:10.000 It feels like it's got some connection with a dark fairy tale, right?

01:25:13.000 Like The Wizard of Oz.

01:25:14.000 Definitely something.

01:25:15.000 Yeah.

01:25:16.000 Yeah.

01:25:17.000 Yeah.

01:25:18.000 Yeah.

01:25:19.000 Michael says, on the Epstein photos, this could be why Trump isn't releasing the files.

01:25:22.000 It won't just destroy his enemies, but his friends as well, which might explain why the

01:25:25.000 Biden admin didn't release it to ensure Trump's defeat.

01:25:27.000 I'm completely convinced about that.

01:25:29.000 I don't think there's going to be anything that compromising on Trump in there, because

01:25:33.000 I think that Trump and Epstein's relationship was public enough.

01:25:36.000 Everyone knew they were friends.

01:25:38.000 So if there was anything that directly implicated him, probably would have been out by now.

01:25:43.000 But I think it's a bunch of people who he's friends with.

01:25:46.000 So I think the most likely thing is, yes, it implicates people on both sides, but overwhelmingly

01:25:51.000 Democrats.

01:25:52.000 Yeah.

01:25:53.000 And before he came into office, he thought, I'll just take the loss of the powerful people

01:25:58.000 on my side and my donors that it takes down.

01:26:00.000 But he underestimated the sheer extent to which a national ally had their fingerprints all

01:26:06.000 over it.

01:26:07.000 The number of people Epstein was pictured with on those photos.

01:26:10.000 Yeah.

01:26:11.000 You think, okay, well, this could be everyone.

01:26:12.000 Like, you know, you could be, and not just when we're just like, oh, Republicans and Democrats.

01:26:17.000 I mean, it could be national governments around the world that are implicated in this.

01:26:20.000 Yeah.

01:26:21.000 I'd say it is.

01:26:22.000 So, I mean, I'm not saying this of him because I don't think this is the case, but if somebody

01:26:26.000 off the power level of like MBS or something who was in those photos was in there, it's

01:26:31.000 like, are you going to really blow up your relationship with another country over this?

01:26:36.000 I think that's what happened.

01:26:37.000 Yeah.

01:26:38.000 I hate to say it, but I think that's probably true.

01:26:41.000 Fuzzy Toaster says, art is one of those things that is supposed to commute a feeling or an

01:26:45.000 idea.

01:26:46.000 It can transcend beauty but it can also plumb the depths of our depravities.

01:26:50.000 So, whilst I'm not going to say it's not art, I will definitely say that people who identify

01:26:54.000 with or made this art should be watched closely.

01:26:56.000 Well, I thought your take on it was actually surprisingly nuanced because I think you are

01:27:00.000 right.

01:27:01.000 Once I, when I was in university, I dated a girl who had trauma and she expressed it through

01:27:06.000 her arts.

01:27:07.000 So, you know, I never liked her art because I was just like, okay, that's, you know, I

01:27:11.000 luckily grew up in a very normal household.

01:27:13.000 So, I could never relate to it.

01:27:15.000 And so, when you brought that up, I was like, oh, yeah, no, that's a good point.

01:27:18.000 And the fact that, like, she's like, yeah, it's from the position of the executioner, it's

01:27:22.000 like, okay, that is powerful.

01:27:23.000 The artist isn't the one enjoying it.

01:27:25.000 The artist is going through a process.

01:27:26.000 Yeah.

01:27:27.000 Especially if it's a traumatic process.

01:27:28.000 Tony Podesta is like, hey, look at this.

01:27:30.000 Yeah.

01:27:31.000 He's the one going.

01:27:32.000 Love it.

01:27:33.000 Million, million dollars.

01:27:34.000 I'll buy that.

01:27:35.000 No worries.

01:27:36.000 Park a whole bunch of chairs around it.

01:27:37.000 I'll just stick it on the wall.

01:27:38.000 Turn the chair around.

01:27:39.000 Yeah.

01:27:40.000 I've watched that all day, every day.

01:27:41.000 Like, yeah, that's weird, mate.

01:27:42.000 That's psychotic stuff.

01:27:43.000 Well, that's why I showed my own art.

01:27:44.000 Just so the compromise of what a healthy art is.

01:27:47.000 Yeah.

01:27:48.000 Healthy art is pictures of myself.

01:27:50.000 And what depravity is.

01:27:53.000 Because it's so clear when you've got that contrast.

01:27:57.000 Derek says, no, Dan, you can blame the artist.

01:27:59.000 I understand someone experiencing trauma, but making art is a choice.

01:28:03.000 Furthermore, she's painting these on commission and these can be publicly displayed.

01:28:06.000 I don't know if these are commissioned.

01:28:07.000 Yeah, we don't know.

01:28:08.000 They might be.

01:28:09.000 I don't know.

01:28:10.000 But if it was some random guy painting these, I think I'd agree with you, Derek.

01:28:15.000 But when it's somebody who was a little girl themselves in a war zone and it got really

01:28:20.000 bad, I've got a bit more.

01:28:22.000 Yeah.

01:28:23.000 I can be more sympathetic.

01:28:24.000 Yeah.

01:28:25.000 There's a nuance there, isn't there?

01:28:26.000 Omar says, any shibboleth that requires child death and suffering indicates the kind

01:28:29.000 of group that should be eradicated with extreme righteous prejudice.

01:28:32.000 Well, yeah, indeed.

01:28:33.000 And I watched Tucker's talk about it that you brought up at the beginning.

01:28:41.000 And he mentioned how he was aware that this was all there, but never really thought about

01:28:45.000 it and felt gross.

01:28:47.000 Now he was actually contemplating it.

01:28:49.000 It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm happy to believe that he felt gross about it.

01:28:54.000 But it's like, how has this been so normalized in the upper echelons of American government

01:29:00.000 and politics for such a long time?

01:29:02.000 Like, you know, this is utterly vile.

01:29:05.000 Anyway, Michael says, yeah, answers understandable from the artist who likely saw such horrors

01:29:14.000 but people proudly displaying it questionable at best.

01:29:17.000 Yeah.

01:29:18.000 Michael says, Nate, in a time must be a sign of the apocalypse.

01:29:21.000 You do look great today.

01:29:23.000 It's a three-piece suit.

01:29:24.000 Come on now.

01:29:25.000 You're looking very, very good.

01:29:26.000 I'm the best dressed one here.

01:29:27.000 I'm not going to lie.

01:29:28.000 I'm bragging.

01:29:29.000 Yeah.

01:29:30.000 Jimbo says, Islander 4 has just arrived.

01:29:31.000 That is some good turnaround.

01:29:32.000 Bloody hell.

01:29:33.000 That's quick.

01:29:34.000 Yeah.

01:29:35.000 Very good turnaround.

01:29:36.000 Happy to.

01:29:37.000 We only put them on sale a few days ago, didn't we?

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:40.000 That's fantastic.

01:29:41.000 It's not even a week.

01:29:42.000 Oh.

01:29:43.000 Good to see.

01:29:44.000 There are a couple of other comments that I missed.

01:29:46.000 I will just point out, every single time we put out an Islander, we get thousands of emails

01:29:50.000 after they come off sale.

01:29:51.000 Yes.

01:29:52.000 We tell them every time we're only going to print a limited edition and they're going

01:29:56.000 to sell.

01:29:57.000 And yet every time people email in afterwards saying, oh, I didn't get around to it.

01:30:00.000 Yeah.

01:30:01.000 It's like, yeah.

01:30:02.000 So trust us guys.

01:30:03.000 There is a limited number.

01:30:04.000 And remember, and so I was speaking to a friend of mine the other day.

01:30:07.000 He was like, oh, can I get some of the back issues?

01:30:09.000 I was like, no.

01:30:10.000 There aren't.

01:30:11.000 Well, we actually have a stock of our own.

01:30:13.000 But not many.

01:30:14.000 But not many.

01:30:15.000 And, you know, we're not going to get them reprinted because it's not about like, you

01:30:20.000 know, encouraging people to buy them or something because they always sell really well.

01:30:23.000 What it is, is each issue is a moment in time that represents the feeling of the now,

01:30:30.000 right?

01:30:31.000 And this is what was going on spiritually with us, you know, philosophically with us.

01:30:35.000 And this is why it's for now.

01:30:37.000 And, you know, get one in the future that will be for that moment in time.

01:30:40.000 Because it's full of essays that are just really deep dives into the current zeitgeist

01:30:46.000 of the time and the, you know, really going, picking apart a philosophical issue on an emotional

01:30:53.000 level.

01:30:54.000 And so it's like, you know, there's something more to this.

01:30:56.000 And it's not just a magazine, right?

01:30:58.000 It's something that's been really, really well crafted to bring about a certain kind of

01:31:02.000 feeling.

01:31:03.000 And that feeling is now and not last year or next year.

01:31:06.000 So that's why we don't get them reprinted.

01:31:08.000 So it's a curation.

01:31:10.000 Yeah.

01:31:11.000 The emotional.

01:31:13.000 Yeah.

01:31:14.000 And each one's an artifact.

01:31:15.000 You know, it's an artifact of where we are at the time.

01:31:17.000 Anyway, we're out of time there.

01:31:18.000 So thank you for joining us.

01:31:20.000 Go and get an issue of Islander now where you can.

01:31:22.000 I'm very proud of my essay in there.

01:31:24.000 And I think you'll enjoy it.

01:31:25.000 And we will see you tomorrow.

01:31:27.000 Bye.

01:31:28.000 Bye.

01:31:57.000 Bye.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - August 06, 2025

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