The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1225

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00:00:51.520 Hello and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Seaters, episode 1225. I'm your host, Harry,

00:00:59.520 joined today by Beau, and brand new special guest, Kim Il-Mao. It's very great to have you.

00:01:06.440 Hello.

00:01:08.760 And today we're going to be talking about, maybe Hillary might go to jail this time. For realsies,

00:01:14.940 bro, we really mean it. But Tulsi Gabbard's in charge of this one, so maybe actually something

00:01:19.480 will be done. Britain's Tyranny, again, a fun one. And I'm going to be talking to us about

00:01:25.880 pointless scientific studies that tell you the obvious. Also by Islander.

00:01:30.840 I feel like I'm going to be called out in this segment because a lot of psychology is sort of

00:01:35.440 pointing out things that people already knew, but it's like, now we know it's true.

00:01:39.600 Now, my favourite one is the first study that I'll go over in this, that's reported by the New York

00:01:44.200 Times. No, no, no. Honestly, it's like the most obvious thing in the world, but scientists seem

00:01:50.360 baffled by its conclusions. But yeah, there's a little teaser for you all. Anything else we need

00:01:59.120 to talk about? Do we have anything on in the afternoons anymore, Samson? Calvin's not with us

00:02:05.040 anymore at the moment. Peace be upon him. Praise be unto his name. I can't hear you, Samson.

00:02:15.040 I'll just assume the... Hear him. Yeah, yeah, the goblins and the wires, yes. Nothing is on,

00:02:22.840 so let's just get on with the news.

00:02:24.080 All right, so have you seen that it has now been shown pretty much beyond a doubt that

00:02:32.860 the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax was indeed that? A hoax, something fabricated from start

00:02:39.360 to finish. Something many people knew pretty much straight away, and it has been shown a

00:02:44.860 while ago now, but Tulsi Gabbard has added more information. So I just thought we could talk

00:02:49.480 a little bit about how Hilary Rodham Killington might be in a bit of trouble, because it does

00:02:55.080 all end, or start rather, with her, ultimately. What year was the Mueller report published?

00:03:02.000 Because I thought it was the Mueller report that came to the conclusion that, yes, this

00:03:06.260 was all nonsense. Yeah, basically, yeah. And that was years ago. I can't remember what year

00:03:10.460 that was published, but yeah. Yeah, at that point, that's the point at which you had no credibility

00:03:16.100 if you still tried to claim it was true. Yeah, after the Mueller report, after the Durham

00:03:21.200 investigation and the Mueller report. We're like, yeah, there's this dossier, the Steele

00:03:25.920 dossier, Christopher Steele. It's just not true. But let's get into it. So, oh, well,

00:03:32.060 actually, first of all, now the segment's started. We have to quick chill for the

00:03:36.180 Islander magazine. Buy it. It's well good. That sounded really insincere, didn't it?

00:03:45.600 Is Baudet in this one? I'm not in this one, but it should be in the next one, I would have

00:03:50.120 thought, probably. But buy it. It's out now. There are limited. I think there's only, I

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00:04:04.280 sell out. You will look sexier reading it as well. Yeah, there's no doubt. I thought

00:04:09.000 it was funny, actually, you on the, on the promo thing, looking deadly serious reading

00:04:13.760 a very serious face. It is deadly serious. If you're not reading Lit by a Chimney Fire,

00:04:19.840 then are you even reading seriously? You're reading children books. You're reading Peppa

00:04:23.940 Pig at that point. Don't knock Peppa Pig. It should be read. My daughter loves it. It should

00:04:28.560 be read in a library or the drawing room of a country house. If you're not reading it in

00:04:34.140 the library or the drawing room of a giant country house, then, you know, should we like

00:04:37.940 you to send it back? Islander is a key step to getting that

00:04:40.200 country estate. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Okay, so let's

00:04:44.180 have a first look at, okay, so what happened is, why it's in the news cycle at the moment,

00:04:50.820 is Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence for the Trump White House, has come out and

00:04:56.900 said, there is just, we, I have now just got sort of slam dunk evidence, documents and things that

00:05:05.140 show beyond any doubt, like the, the, the lies really, the, the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016

00:05:13.100 started off and then Obama was, was in on it. It was peddled all the way through Trump's first

00:05:21.020 administration by the intelligence services and the mainstream media. You know, you've got like

00:05:26.360 the likes of Clapper, um, who was the National Intelligence Director, the Director of National

00:05:32.240 Intelligence at the time, uh, the CIA, John Brennan, uh, the FBI, James Comey. It was peddled

00:05:38.140 by all of them and many more. And the mainstream media, uh, the particular type, Democrat shield type

00:05:44.460 mainstream media, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, you know, people like Rachel Maddow, right, how hard they

00:05:51.700 pushed it. Uh, so, um, but no, no one ever, even after the Mueller report, no one ever was got in

00:05:57.940 any trouble for that, right? I mean, Comey lost his job, but that was sort of a wider thing. No one

00:06:04.440 really got in trouble. Certainly Hillary herself never got in any trouble for it. It wasn't, there's

00:06:07.980 no real question that she was going to be prosecuted or anything. So what I want to do is just run

00:06:11.220 through the story a bit for anyone who doesn't remember it, or perhaps if you're quite young,

00:06:15.020 you weren't old enough, because this goes back, it starts in about 2016. So like nine,

00:06:20.100 knocking 10 years ago now, this story has been going on. So there will be younger people that

00:06:24.600 won't remember, uh, how like the events and how they all played out. So I want to go through it

00:06:29.700 and it will be, um, uh, I won't go into everyone's name because there'll be, it's actually quite a

00:06:34.560 complicated story. It's essence. It's very straightforward, but all the details, it does get a bit cloudy,

00:06:39.340 a bit complicated. There'll be all sorts of people that I won't go into much detail about,

00:06:43.940 but are important to the story, like Bill Barr, for example. Um, but okay. So, um, at the moment,

00:06:50.280 the, the mainstream media, the shield Democrat legacy media, they're trying to spin it, that it's

00:06:56.280 just, um, it's a nothing burger and that there is no evidence. That's a lie. There is evidence.

00:07:01.160 There absolutely is evidence.

00:07:01.860 Wasting the public's time, energy, and who knows how much money on, on these bogus claims just

00:07:08.240 doesn't matter. It's not of public interest. Well, they tried to overturn the result of an

00:07:11.940 election, didn't they? By saying that he's illegitimate and was funded by a foreign power

00:07:16.440 and therefore the results should be, you know, either overturned or, you know, they should have

00:07:22.120 another election or rerun. That was the whole aim of it, which is quite insidious, isn't it?

00:07:28.100 Yeah. Yeah. The ultimate, ultimate liar, like Rachel Maddow, for example, would be saying

00:07:33.620 things like, this is war. Russia is at war with us over this. Trump is a handpicked, uh,

00:07:40.640 Kremlin stooge. He is Putin's puppet. And, and, uh, we've, this is basically a Russian coup

00:07:47.520 d'etat against America. It's like crazy, crazy nonsense.

00:07:51.220 It's also just frankly, not great for foreign relations.

00:07:53.600 Yeah. When we weren't, uh, like America was not at that time prior to February, 2022,

00:08:00.260 officially at war with Russia, when the entirety of the media was screeching as though they were.

00:08:05.560 Yeah. Yeah. Also the, the, the way many American commentators talk about their political system,

00:08:11.640 it's as if the president holds ultimate power when actually they don't. And if the Russians were to

00:08:17.180 try and influence, you know, us politics, sure getting the president would be good for them,

00:08:22.180 but also there's much more to running the U S and the state than just the presidency. And in fact,

00:08:29.580 you know, as we've seen throughout American history, the presidency can be quite an ineffective office

00:08:35.140 if you've got a hostile Congress.

00:08:37.180 Well, also, if you really wanted to have like ultimate, like legislative power, you'd want to

00:08:43.540 fit the entire Supreme court with Kremlin agents. And then, and, and then just get a load of insider

00:08:49.340 agents to fire off lawsuit after lawsuit until one gets to the Supreme court.

00:08:52.700 Yeah. The separation of powers actually makes it much harder than other countries to be able to do

00:08:58.340 that. So it's one of the political systems in the world. That's probably the most difficult to have

00:09:02.900 foreign influence. Although to be fair, there are lots of pressure points for foreign capital to,

00:09:07.860 to affect things. So that's another avenue.

00:09:11.000 Yeah. Russia and Israel and a number of countries, Britain, in fact, have got like a fair bit of

00:09:17.480 influence in various ways. Um, so it's not the case that, well, anyway, that's another, that's a whole

00:09:22.680 another angle. I wasn't going to go into that sort of thing, but let's just watch what the main street,

00:09:26.120 this is NBC, their angle on this.

00:09:28.760 General is ordering a grand jury investigation into claims by the white house. The former president

00:09:38.280 Obama ordered a probe into then candidate Trump's 2016 campaign connections to Russia,

00:09:42.760 allegedly to try to hurt his chances of becoming president. By the way, allegations that are not

00:09:47.720 substantiated adjust. Well, they are, they are. So that's wrong. This department spokesperson declined

00:09:53.240 to comment when asked about the letter just a couple of weeks ago. The office for the former

00:09:57.320 president said in part, these claims are outrageous enough to merit a comment. The

00:10:03.160 bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction. I want to bring in Monica.

00:10:09.640 So that's one of the angles they're going for as well, that this is all distraction to move

00:10:14.200 the news cycle away from the Epstein thing. And I'll talk about that a bit later, but one,

00:10:19.400 okay, maybe it is. Two, I actually don't care. I'm more interested in the truth. Three,

00:10:24.280 no one's actually going to take their eye off the ball. Forget about Epstein. No one's going to,

00:10:28.280 that's not happening. So it's also, that's a weak argument that it's just distraction. Well,

00:10:35.080 Trump's been concerned about this before all of the Epstein stuff anyway. And this is a progression

00:10:41.080 of a many year long effort to get some degree of justice for this. And also the Democrats are treating

00:10:47.640 this like this idea just sprung up out of the ground. It has to have its origin somewhere,

00:10:53.080 doesn't it? Yeah. And we know where we've got the receipts. Gabbard

00:10:58.120 has got the receipts. Also, frankly, if it is a kind of distraction tactic, I don't see why somebody

00:11:02.600 like the Clintons wouldn't also welcome it given that they are just as, if not more heavily

00:11:08.040 implicated in the Epstein affair as Trump. I'll end with that as well.

00:11:12.120 Monica Alba, who was at the White House. Plain English in here. Why does this matter? What does this mean?

00:11:16.520 Remember a couple of weeks ago, Hallie, when really the headlines were dominated by the

00:11:21.480 Jeffrey Epstein controversy. And then the president was sort of trying to change the topic very

00:11:27.000 obviously. And in many different venues was trying to bring up these unsubstantiated claims

00:11:32.440 about the role he argues, former president Obama had.

00:11:36.120 Okay, you get it. They're not unsubstantiated. They're just not. So, so you're liars. All right,

00:11:42.680 let's just let people, again, who might not remember sort of eight, nine years ago,

00:11:48.120 I won't play all of this, but we'll play a bit, how hard it was pushed.

00:11:51.560 Donald Trump's done. He's done. There's no question about that. He's done. Russia. Russia.

00:11:59.080 Vladimir Putin. Russia. Trump. Putin. Russian collusion. Trump. Russian sort of collusion. Trump.

00:12:03.880 Russian possible collusion. Breaking news. A bombshell. Today is a turning point. Today was

00:12:08.760 historically bad for president Trump. Today was a turning point. A turning point. We're at a

00:12:13.400 turning point here. Russia. Russia. Russia hates Russia. Russia. Trump. Russian metal collusion. Trump.

00:12:18.840 Russia. Impossible collusion. Trump. Russian actually collusion. The beginning of the year comes a big

00:12:23.960 change. Because all of a sudden, Trump. Russian possible collusion. I didn't expect to be Russia.

00:12:30.840 Russia. Possible collusion. Trump. Russia. Possible collusion. Trump. It just goes, oh, no, no, no, no.

00:12:35.000 The beginning of the end. The beginning of the end. He just got slammed all 17 intelligence agencies.

00:12:38.680 They would always come out with the same thing. It's the beginning of the end. The walls are closing

00:12:41.880 in on Trump. New bombshell. Just day after day after day. Just an endless tsunami of saying that Trump is,

00:12:49.960 uh, okay, so you get it. Where does this all come from? So, um, well, actually, let's just let, uh,

00:12:57.720 Matt Taiby talk a little bit here. And the thing is, now you have this guy, Leonardo Bernardo,

00:13:03.320 a name with the open, with George Soros' open society. Jeff Goldstein, dealing with Debbie Wasserman

00:13:10.200 Schultz, back and forth and finding a way to change the narrative from Hillary's emails and the John Podesta

00:13:16.120 to have cacking to Donald Trump in bed with Vladimir Putin to hopefully win the election and later to

00:13:23.800 destroy his first term when he won. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's unbelievable because the real story here

00:13:31.160 is, is that Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server opened up the United States to an

00:13:36.760 unprecedented, uh, security risk. And the Russian government actually came into possession of a

00:13:43.720 huge cache of material, uh, correspondence all the way up to the, the president's office.

00:13:50.520 And yet, uh, in order to deflect from that, they had to create some kind of story that was

00:13:55.880 similarly explosive. So they came up with this idea of linking and vilifying Trump, uh, and Putin

00:14:03.240 together. They talked about it being a long-term project to, to demonize them both. And that's

00:14:09.400 what they did. And what's so remarkable is that every single major media reporter in America went

00:14:15.720 along with this. Okay. That's it in its essence. So where this all started was that back in the Obama

00:14:22.360 years, Hillary Clinton for a period was, um, at the state department, the head of the state department,

00:14:28.840 the American equivalent of the foreign secretary, right? So one of the absolutely most senior

00:14:33.080 people in the whole government below the president. So she did that for a few years. And while she

00:14:37.960 was there, she was involved in all sorts of shenanigans and dodgy stuff. One of which,

00:14:42.760 one of which was that she had, she had a server, a state department server put in her house

00:14:48.360 completely. You're not allowed to do that. Completely not allowed to do that. Again,

00:14:51.240 if anyone is not clear, the state department deals with all sorts of secrets and foreign policy and

00:14:56.520 diplomacy and actual sensitive stuff. So even if you're the head of the state department,

00:15:02.280 you can't just have a server put in your home or your bathroom. I was about to ask,

00:15:07.800 wasn't it in the bathroom? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and so, and it wasn't secure,

00:15:12.680 certainly wasn't secure enough. And it seems like the Russians hacked into it, got into it. So right

00:15:18.840 there, that's like, that's, that's a bad enough error to be raised to the level of being prosecutable,

00:15:27.160 but she never was. She never was. She did have to answer a few questions about it one time, but then

00:15:32.920 other times just didn't turn up to the hearings and stuff like that. She's too important for that.

00:15:38.040 Another thing, um, she did was sell off something in the order of 20% of America's uranium sector.

00:15:49.240 Um, all different things to do with, uh, mining and I think enriching uranium that the United States

00:15:55.400 do sort of essentially gave it away to the Russians in exchange for something like 100 million or 140

00:16:02.600 million dollars that got donated to the Clinton Foundation. Also, Bill would go on speaking trips

00:16:10.120 to Russia around that time and make like half a million dollars straight into his own pocket

00:16:14.360 around that time. What a strange coincidence. That's very inconvenient, you know, coincidence for

00:16:20.360 both of them. It could work if you can get it. Yeah, right. So after that, Hillary then, uh, stopped

00:16:27.160 being at the state department so that she could have a year or two in order to gear up for her

00:16:32.440 2016 presidential run. Right. Happy birthday to this future president. Yeah. Yeah. She's the future

00:16:39.720 president. We're still waiting. And so certainly after Trump got his, that won his primary, um,

00:16:47.640 but even before that, uh, the Hillary campaign had done some polling, sort of internal polling,

00:16:55.000 and it had shown that the things that she'd done during her time at the state department,

00:16:59.640 uh, were really bad. People had noticed and remembered that she'd sold off the, like all sorts of, uh,

00:17:06.920 the uranium sector and... Benghazi. Benghazi. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, and the server thing, uh,

00:17:14.840 people sort of hadn't forgot. It was only a couple of years previous that all that had gone down.

00:17:19.320 So they realized that it would probably be a close run thing, whoever she ran against and she may well

00:17:25.720 lose. So, so they decided, she decided to sort of green light an idea from one of her team,

00:17:34.120 apparently someone called Julie. Um, Julie as yet undetermined. And, and people like John Podesta

00:17:42.440 and, uh, Christopher Steele and various other people, they, that someone came up with the idea

00:17:47.560 that we'll, we'll smear Trump with, uh, with like this, this Russian collusion idea. So they got,

00:17:56.520 uh, they got a dossier and it's all, this is all very, um, a little bit cloak and daggers. It's very

00:18:02.760 murky and actually to do with a British company and a British intelligence officer. Um, but anyway,

00:18:09.560 they, they got some dirt or what they thought was dirt from through Britain for the British

00:18:15.560 intelligence, uh, actually, but anyway, through Russia saying, have you got any like dirt on

00:18:22.520 Trump? And anyway, the point is it was all, and this is what later has been called the steel dossier.

00:18:28.120 And it was that stuff like Trump's compromising stuff in hotel rooms to prostitutes and peeing

00:18:36.600 and this sort of embarrassing kind of stuff.

00:18:38.520 I remember that actually being in the news and stuff like that. It's like, really? It's like,

00:18:44.280 it's like schoolyard stuff this is.

00:18:46.360 Yeah. One, it's a complete fabrication, wholesale, whole cloth fabrication. Two,

00:18:51.560 if you're going to make something up, you're going with that.

00:18:54.200 You're not going with anything like really politically juicy. You're just going with...

00:18:57.720 He's a weirdo.

00:18:58.440 Yeah. Well, I mean, that was the approach that they took in 2024 as well. Uh, but there

00:19:02.920 was a bit of a scattershot approach, but I imagine that they felt it was necessary because

00:19:08.200 around the time of that campaign, was that not also at the same time that all of the

00:19:12.760 Pizzagate allegation and conspiracies were coming out. So they needed anything at all to try to draw

00:19:20.520 the main mainstream discussion or online discussion away from any connection that the Clintons may

00:19:27.400 have had to do with that.

00:19:28.680 Yeah. Yeah. The whole thing.

00:19:30.360 And then Q comes about as well and then starts pro promoting that to really push it into the

00:19:35.560 realm of kook sphere.

00:19:36.920 The whole Russia, Russia, Russia hoax was one big long exercise in distracting people from talking

00:19:43.240 about Hillary's email server and Hillary's, uh, the Clintons connection to Russia.

00:19:48.120 Yeah. Because of course you accuse people of doing what you yourself are doing, don't you?

00:19:53.560 Right. Classic, right? It's a classic tactic. Yeah. Uh, people were saying this, some people

00:20:00.280 were saying this sort of quite quickly or at the time, but they were dismissed by the mainstream media,

00:20:05.640 by the intelligence services, by the FBI or whatever, saying, um, no, you're a conspiracy theorist.

00:20:12.040 You're the crazy one. Just the levels of gaslighting on it were crazy.

00:20:16.120 Um, but, um, let's let this guy, he's on Fox news. I think he's on Hannity, but he's,

00:20:21.400 I think this guy's a Jarrett, an ex, uh, an ex FBI fella. He, uh, it's just about a minute,

00:20:27.640 but he just says it exactly, exactly as it is.

00:20:32.440 Ah, very quiet.

00:20:33.880 Maggie Haberman became obsessed with action. Never an apology. Look, the New York times and Maggie

00:20:40.120 Haberman became obsessed with Donald Trump, driven by their hatred, their arrogance,

00:20:45.000 their liberal bias. They were blinded to the fundamental standards of fairness and accuracy

00:20:51.720 and the truth. And then they're rewarded, as you pointed out, Sean, with a Pulitzer prize

00:20:57.480 for getting a story wrong. I mean, when you reward bad behavior, all you get is more bad behavior,

00:21:03.560 more lies, more smears. So the New York times is very much like a religious cult when it comes to

00:21:12.040 Trump. They are maniacal and they hire mindless, uh, sycophants like Ben Smith, who published the

00:21:20.120 dossier without ever bothering to investigate or verify or corroborate any of it. If he had,

00:21:26.920 he would have learned that it was a collection of lies conjured up by two classic phonies,

00:21:32.840 Glenn Simpson and Christopher Steele and funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democrats.

00:21:38.600 They were played for the fools that they are useful idiots. And if the New York times had any integrity,

00:21:47.560 it would fire those individuals who got that story wrong for so long and apologize sincerely to their

00:21:55.480 readers. Okay. Yeah. So now all of this, although a lot of this has been known for a while, again,

00:22:01.880 there was, there's no question that anyone, like you said, no one's going to get fired. Certainly Hillary

00:22:06.920 herself is not facing any sort of repercussions, but now it looks like it is. Whether it's a distraction

00:22:15.080 technique from the Trump White House because of Epstein, I don't, I don't particularly care because

00:22:21.400 no one's going to forget about Epstein. So if it's coming out, it's good. I wrote an article,

00:22:26.760 like any decent lecture, you have to peddle your own stuff, don't you? I wrote an article a while ago.

00:22:31.160 At least there aren't overpriced books on it. Right. Yeah. I'm not going to force you to buy a book

00:22:35.080 from a reading list. Not yet. Just to mention that this is on our website, where just talking about

00:22:39.880 how the deep state, as Trump would call it, you know, people like Brennan, a number of people,

00:22:46.760 I name them here, all sorts of people, or just prepare to lie endlessly for the Dems.

00:22:56.520 Just brazenly, just go in front of like the American people and just say, just complete liars,

00:23:02.600 endlessly. I mean, this article actually concentrates a bit more on the laptop from doom,

00:23:10.200 the laptop from hell, Hunter Biden's laptop. But the same thing applies with the Steele

00:23:15.560 dossier in the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. Let's play a little bit of this. Samson,

00:23:22.760 did you have it lined up where I said? No. Okay. Anyway, let's play a little bit of it.

00:23:31.640 Why is that not playing? Let's see, it's... Here we go. It's just a bit of Glenn Greenwald.

00:23:37.480 It fraud, which I'll remind you again, was driven by the core conspiracy claim

00:23:44.920 that the Trump campaign officials collaborated and colluded and conspired with the Kremlin

00:23:52.120 to hack into the DNC email server, as well as John Podesta's email, and disseminate those emails to

00:23:57.240 WikiLeaks. And by the broader conspiracy theory that Trump was being blackmailed by Vladimir Putin with

00:24:02.760 sexual material, compromising financial information, personal blackmail as well, and that therefore

00:24:08.360 the Kremlin was basically, once Trump got elected, running the country. It was a completely unhinged

00:24:13.080 and deranged conspiracy theory from the start, for which there was no evidence. I'm not just saying

00:24:16.920 that retroactively. Like some people, not very many, but some, I was saying it quite vocally at the time.

00:24:23.080 And it was clear, not just that this was a scam or a fraud, but that it was one deliberately cooked up

00:24:32.200 from the bowels of the intelligence community and law enforcement agencies, where so many of these lies

00:24:37.080 get disseminated, mainly from the CIA, then led by John Brennan, who we now know is a vehement, devoted

00:24:43.720 hater of Donald Trump. We've had this ethos for so long in Washington. It actually goes back to

00:24:50.280 Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon. If you go and watch the speech, Gerald.

00:24:55.000 We're running a little bit short of time, but Greenwald makes the point there where

00:24:58.440 there's this thing in Washington going back decades, going back to the seventies,

00:25:02.600 where they say, let's not prosecute people that used to be at the top of government,

00:25:07.800 or used to be at the top of the Federal Reserve or top of Wall Street. Let's not do that,

00:25:11.640 because that's what banana republics do. This endless back and forth lawfare thing.

00:25:16.600 That is unseemly. It's even un-American. Let's not do that.

00:25:22.600 But people are saying now, it looks like Trump and the Bondi Department of Justice,

00:25:28.200 and lots of other people, and including myself, are saying, no, sold all that. No, no, no, no.

00:25:33.000 If they've done something criminal, particularly really badly criminal,

00:25:36.360 and there's no statute of limitations on their crimes, then no, let's prosecute them. I don't

00:25:41.320 care that it's Hillary Clinton. Yeah, it doesn't matter if your country is a banana republic if

00:25:45.640 everyone is getting away with massive corruption and lying. That's what makes you a banana republic.

00:25:50.520 It seems very strange to me to try to associate holding your leaders responsible for their actions

00:25:55.480 with corrupt banana republics. It's awfully convenient, isn't it? Yeah, that is. Yeah.

00:26:00.600 And I chose a bit of Glenn Greenwald there, because although Glenn Greenwald is

00:26:04.120 at heart, ultimately, a leftoid, he's not an NPC, right? He does care about what's really true.

00:26:14.680 At least I think he does, mostly. No, no, he's one of the good guys, really, even if he is a bit of a

00:26:19.880 lefty. But I thought I'd put him in there because it's not just Fox News. It's not just people like

00:26:25.640 Hannity that are banging this drum. It is anyone that can see what is true, what really happened.

00:26:31.880 And I also have a couple of quick clips here from Jimmy Dore, who also is a complete leftoid.

00:26:43.560 There's a certain type of leftist like the Jimmy Dore type who hate what they perceive as the

00:26:50.440 betrayal of the Democratic Party more than they do the other side at this point. He hates both parties.

00:26:57.160 I believe Dore recognises that it's a uniparty, but he particularly hates all of the people and

00:27:04.280 the Democrats who've made it that way.

00:27:06.200 Dore is one of the very few lefties that I actually don't mind at all watching.

00:27:12.200 Very funny.

00:27:12.680 Because he will have a pop at The View or Rachel Maddow or CNN. He will totally just have a dig

00:27:21.720 at them. If what they're saying is insane nonsense, he does care a bit about the truth.

00:27:29.800 So I've got respect for people like that, even if I don't necessarily agree with the entire worldview

00:27:33.960 or anything.

00:27:36.200 Bombshell coming out, but a bigger bombshell is that I'll be in Oxnard, California, Sunday,

00:27:41.720 and then I'll do the exact thing that they have been saying Donald Trump did for the last 10 years

00:27:48.040 straight. And it's in their own book. New bombshell information that just concludes what we reported

00:27:57.800 over eight years ago. What?

00:28:00.760 Yeah. So that's a Clinton campaign and the FBI were in on smearing Donald Trump as a Russian colluder or

00:28:12.680 in conspiracy with the Russians. And so the latest thing is on Thursday, newly declassified documents

00:28:19.720 revealed that not only did the CIA believe a Russian intelligence assessment that the 2016 Hillary

00:28:26.920 Clinton campaign planned to smear Donald Trump by linking him to the Kremlin, it's clear that the

00:28:34.920 FBI helped the Clinton campaign orchestrate the Russia hoax to distract from its investigation

00:28:40.040 into her emails, which she should have went to prison for because she had a private server.

00:28:45.800 The Democratic Party turning their back on their own blue, their base, the blue collar workers,

00:28:52.120 and they lost the election. That's why all this happened. And if you want to know who was really

00:28:57.400 meddling in the election, it was the Clinton campaign, the FBI, the CIA, the media, and it was people in our

00:29:03.800 own government. This is from the primary. Do you remember how they screwed Bernie Sanders? Daily News,

00:29:09.640 New York City's Board of Elections will admit it purged more than 200,000 voters from the city rolls

00:29:15.080 after many Brooklyn residents arrived at the polls during last year's presidential primary

00:29:20.120 to learn they were deemed ineligible to vote. The good government group Common Cause New York

00:29:25.000 filed suit. State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and the Brooklyn U.S. Attorney's Office

00:29:31.480 because Hillary Clinton couldn't beat Donald Trump. And why couldn't she beat Donald Trump?

00:29:36.120 Because the Democratic Party completely turned their back on their base, meaning working people.

00:29:43.880 How do I know this? Because here's Chuck Schumer telling you, right before Hillary Clinton is

00:29:48.600 about to lose to Donald Trump in 2016, what their campaign strategy is. Their campaign strategy was

00:29:54.760 to turn their backs on workers and blue collar people and go after Republicans. What, you think

00:30:00.520 I'm kidding? Listen. For every blue collar Democrat we will lose in Western PA, we will pick up two,

00:30:07.560 three moderate Republicans in the suburbs of Philadelphia. And you can repeat that in Ohio and

00:30:13.240 Illinois and Wisconsin. How'd that work out for you, Chuck?

00:30:16.040 Yeah, how'd that work out for you, Chuckie boy? Um, okay, so, uh, I think you get the point,

00:30:23.800 unfortunately I'm running really out of time, but, um, there's just, you can find all sorts of

00:30:28.840 compilations of just, uh, Rachel Maddow for example, mad cow, uh, just endlessly going mad about Russia.

00:30:34.760 Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russian, Russian, Russian, Russian, Russia, Russian, Russia,

00:30:39.880 Russia, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin despises.

00:30:43.240 Get it? It was all just a massive, massive lag.

00:30:45.480 And then, and then all of a sudden one day I remember it just dropping.

00:30:49.640 Right.

00:30:49.880 It was just, it was just done because I assume it was the Mueller report coming out and they go,

00:30:54.120 oh, we don't actually have a leg to stand on at all here. So they just pretend it never happened.

00:30:59.240 So with Tulsi Gabbard bringing this back up now, it looks like the, uh, this, the Department of

00:31:03.960 Justice will, uh, do some sort of grand jury style thing, a task force, uh, to actually properly look

00:31:10.360 into it, subpoena power. So maybe, just maybe, it'll still be a long time from now, but maybe

00:31:17.320 some justice will be had on this. We shall see.

00:31:20.280 A full investigation.

00:31:21.240 I'm not holding my breath to be perfectly honest, but hopefully some cogs are in motion. And one last final

00:31:28.040 thing just to mention it also in breaking in the news in the last sort of three, four days or so

00:31:32.920 is that, um, both the Clintons have been subpoenaed to give evidence about their involvement in, in

00:31:41.400 Epstein related affairs, um, in, in, in Congress.

00:31:46.040 And so rather amusing thumbnail there, she looks very angry at him, still not forgiving him.

00:31:52.520 So they have been subpoenaed to, uh, actually have to answer for themselves whether they will or not,

00:31:57.720 whether they'll just say, Oh, I don't recall endlessly. We shall see. But, um, yeah,

00:32:01.880 looks like Hillary people are gunning for Hillary at the moment. So that's nice to see.

00:32:09.640 All right, then we'll go through the three rumble rants that we have received.

00:32:13.880 That's a random name starting off. Glad to see you brought back that homeless man.

00:32:17.240 He looks a lot like one of your old employees. Must be a coincidence. All gypsies look the same.

00:32:22.040 How dare you call me a gypsy.

00:32:23.320 I've never heard you accused of being a gypsy before Rory.

00:32:26.600 I'll pick your pockets if you're not careful.

00:32:28.520 I thought that was a reference to me and my, my beard. I have had a bit of a trim actually

00:32:33.480 for people that are very interested in my beard.

00:32:35.240 You look very neat.

00:32:36.280 Thanks. Yeah. Yesterday, it was a bit, I'm shooting for sort of George V and I was looking

00:32:41.080 more like Uncle Albert. So I had to trim the chops up a little bit.

00:32:46.200 But anyway, Rory is the office gypsy. He was the diversity hire.

00:32:50.280 Pat J Reid. She would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those damn notices.

00:32:55.080 There are incredible powers out there. And that's a random name for finishing us off with.

00:32:59.000 Banana podcasts do awful stuff like holding their hosts accountable for skipping super chats.

00:33:04.520 Thank God this isn't such a podcast. Just kidding. I know that none of us can read.

00:33:09.480 And I approved your point there as I was reading it. But don't worry, I understand the annoyance

00:33:14.520 from some of the Rumble viewers that the Rumble rants don't always get read out. In my opinion,

00:33:20.200 you've paid your money. We will read it out as long as you're not actively getting us to

00:33:24.280 the Fed post or say, say the naughty words or anything like that.

00:33:28.760 I would just like to.

00:33:29.960 As the dictator of today's podcast, we will not be skipping super chats unless I arbitrarily

00:33:36.360 decide to do so.

00:33:37.320 I would like to point out that I never did that once in my time at Lotus Eaters.

00:33:41.960 We are honorable men. Can't speak for this chap though.

00:33:46.280 He's throwing you under the bus. First opportunity he gets.

00:33:48.760 How many times has someone gone to start reading a super chat and then realized

00:33:53.160 halfway through that he says something far too spicy?

00:33:55.960 That it's a Fed.

00:33:56.600 Most of the time.

00:33:57.880 You're like, oh, yeah, we'll have to anyway.

00:33:59.800 I was fed up a few weeks ago. I was just like, I'll just read them anyway, whatever.

00:34:03.240 Here you go. Here you go. That's a random name. Harry, a man of the people, a real noir.

00:34:10.440 Is that some reference that I don't get?

00:34:13.160 Is this more of a Zoomer brain than I have? Anyway,

00:34:16.360 talk about how awful everything is and how we should all jump off a bridge together.

00:34:20.760 So obviously, a lot of people know about the tyranny in the UK. It's pretty widely publicized.

00:34:26.440 You had, you know, Donald Trump, Elon Musk and the likes, as well as obviously lots of people

00:34:30.920 in our own country talking about it. And a lot of the time this is focused on critics of the state,

00:34:37.320 people with a public profile, a large degree of the time. Although it's not impossible that

00:34:43.080 everyday people get caught up in this. But I wanted to talk about things that will affect

00:34:47.800 everyday people fairly frequently and increasingly frequently, in my opinion. And these are the kind

00:34:53.720 of things that make living in Britain just insufferable. These are sort of petty tyrannies.

00:34:58.840 Bureaucrats with too much power and that sort of thing. I wanted to start with this story. So,

00:35:05.240 man given, no choice over trowel arrest caution. And this is the dangerous man here.

00:35:11.720 He's arrested over a trowel.

00:35:13.480 He looks like a threat, doesn't he? He looks like he's going to hurt someone.

00:35:16.440 No, I make up on that.

00:35:17.560 He doesn't.

00:35:17.960 I wouldn't take him near my kids.

00:35:21.080 But surely a trowel is, is it because a trowel has a point to it and is made of steel,

00:35:26.520 therefore it counts as a knife. So we've got to throw this man in prison.

00:35:29.640 I think it was because he had his gardening stuff around his waist here.

00:35:33.560 And there's a little sheath for a trowel here.

00:35:39.080 And someone must have thought it was a knife. But I'm going to read what happened to a certain

00:35:43.320 extent.

00:35:43.720 That's not a knife? This is a knife?

00:35:45.720 No, it's a trowel.

00:35:46.680 Yeah, it's a trowel, mate.

00:35:48.520 Crocodile Dundee would be very different if that happened.

00:35:51.960 A man who was cautioned for carrying a bladed trowel in public has said he was given no choice

00:35:57.240 but to accept the reprimand because police were unable to contact a solicitor for him.

00:36:01.240 Another layer of nonsense there as well. Not only were they bringing him in for gardening tools,

00:36:07.240 but also he wasn't able to get his own legal representation.

00:36:11.160 He was on an allotment, which they're trying to shut down.

00:36:13.800 He was on an allotment?

00:36:16.920 Well, he was originally at an allotment.

00:36:19.720 I'll read the story first.

00:36:22.440 Armed police were sent to challenge Samuel Rowe as he walked home from his allotment in

00:36:27.160 Charlton, Manchester, carrying the tool, a peeling knife and a sickle. So, you know,

00:36:31.480 gardening tools, really. Greater Manchester police said Mr. Rowe had admitted possessing a

00:36:37.560 dagger and was given a conditional caution which entailed advice about the law on carrying

00:36:42.360 bladed weapons in public. The keen gardener said he was terrified when armed officers who

00:36:47.160 did not draw their weapons arrived outside his home on the 3rd of July. He said the officers

00:36:51.480 were shouting at him, drop the knife. And this is a quote from him.

00:36:54.920 I said I didn't have a knife and they told me to drop the knife again.

00:36:58.200 So I dropped my Japanese hand gardening sickle and a handful of

00:37:01.800 privet I had just cut off the hedge. They turned me around and pushed me up against

00:37:07.000 my house, cuffed me and put me in the back of a van.

00:37:11.720 Sorry, so he was subject to petty tyranny standing outside of his home.

00:37:16.680 Gardening.

00:37:17.080 Gardening.

00:37:17.800 And he had been seen with gardening tools walking back from an allotment. And there has been some

00:37:26.120 discussion because they're talking about a trowel and also a sickle. I was able to find a picture

00:37:31.640 of him with his sickle there. Ever so scary. I'm absolutely terrified.

00:37:36.280 This is his serious face.

00:37:38.520 Yeah, obviously this guy was not a threat to anyone. He was minding his own business,

00:37:43.080 doing his own thing. Gardening. Which I believe is still legal for the time being.

00:37:48.840 I'm going to have to let my dad know that he might be in trouble because he loves gardening.

00:37:53.240 You've got those green fingers, that's actually a criminal offence that is.

00:37:57.000 I've actually got a very quick anecdote that happened to me in real life. When I was about 15 or 16,

00:38:02.680 one of my friend's houses backs onto a park. And we saw someone shooting at ducks with an air rifle.

00:38:12.440 Some piece of shit was doing that, right? And so we was only like 15 or whatever. We went in and

00:38:17.400 told his mum. His mum called the police. And then a van of armed police turned up to her house.

00:38:25.000 Because she had to give her address. They asked, what's your address? And so armed police turned

00:38:29.960 up to the front of her house saying, we've had reports there's a gun. Someone's using a gun.

00:38:34.680 What's going on with guns? It's like, no, it wasn't us. We're saying somebody else. And it was only

00:38:40.120 an air rifle and you've completely got the wrong end of the stick. They didn't point their guns at

00:38:45.160 anyone. But, but the point is the armed police turned up and all like what's going on sort of

00:38:50.360 thing. They take duck shooting very seriously. And it was like, no, we're the people reporting

00:38:54.760 the problem. We're not, we didn't, we haven't, we don't even own an air rifle. Anyway, the point is

00:39:01.160 that I think armed cops are like really twitchy, like super crazily twitchy. You can understand

00:39:08.040 why, right? But also like petty tyranny is bad enough. That's, that's one thing. But also the

00:39:15.800 people we are being tyrannized by are completely useless and get everything wrong constantly all of

00:39:23.240 the time. It makes it very frustrating, doesn't it? And it's one way of putting it. I'm trying to put

00:39:30.200 it nicely because my actual feelings are much stronger than that. But one thing I do have

00:39:35.480 strong feelings for is the wonderful Islander magazine. There you go. I've got a very handsome

00:39:41.320 model here holding a copy. You too could be a handsome model if you bought Islander magazine.

00:39:47.800 And it's only 15 pounds, which is pretty good these days. You might also soy face once you've

00:39:53.800 purchased it. If you do, please photograph yourselves and tag us on Twitter. It is a known side effect.

00:39:59.000 I'm sorry if that does happen to you. So here's another thing. And in many ways,

00:40:03.560 this one is even more ridiculous than the last is teenager, uh, teenage waitress convicted in fast

00:40:11.000 track courts over mix up with surprise 18th birthday gift. So this sounds quite confusing,

00:40:19.080 doesn't it? Um, so a teenage girl has received a criminal conviction for failing to get insurance

00:40:25.240 on a surprise 18th birthday gift of a car before it had actually been given to her,

00:40:31.160 which is ridiculous. The waitress from pool in Dorset said her family bought the Fiat as a present

00:40:37.080 to celebrate her landmark birthday, but mistakenly did not insure it immediately. Last month, the DVLA,

00:40:42.760 uh, charged her with keeping an uninsured vehicle and bought a criminal prosecution over the unpaid bill.

00:40:49.800 She explained the mix up in a letter to Ipswich magistrates court saying she never, um, driven

00:40:55.320 the vehicle as she does not yet have a license. And at the time, uh, the, of the offense, she did not

00:41:00.280 even know the car was hers. Um, but apparently it was not enough to spare her from a criminal conviction.

00:41:05.720 The injustice of that. So an 18 year old girl who was bought a car for her birthday that she didn't

00:41:15.880 even know about now has a criminal conviction that will potentially follow her for life. Yeah,

00:41:21.080 it will, yeah. For something that was completely unavoidable from her perspective.

00:41:27.320 That seems to me that it was someone at the magistrates court or at the DVLA,

00:41:31.160 someone there was just a jobs worth or has got a quota of prosecutions they need to make every

00:41:37.320 month or something. So it will just ruin this girl's life. At the expense of her life. Yeah.

00:41:42.040 Mm-hmm. But that's, these are the people. That's a hell of an 18th birthday present,

00:41:46.600 isn't it? Yeah, right. And of course, the people that run these institutions are actually meant to be

00:41:51.400 serving in our interest, not prosecuting. I don't think there's a single person in the country that's

00:41:56.280 going to say, yeah, she did something wrong. Yeah. Oh, she deserves to have her life ruined for this.

00:42:00.440 And if there is someone like that, I'd like to meet them. In the car park.

00:42:08.600 Yeah, it's going to be like Cluedo. There's going to be a tire iron involved. There's going to be

00:42:12.760 all sorts of things. Josh in the car park with a tire iron. Josh in the shipping container with a

00:42:19.960 toolbox. What? I'm joking, by the way. Being hyperbolic. Get a knock on the door for that one.

00:42:28.760 Oh, it's already coming. It's fine. I've got a protective ring of junkies around my house,

00:42:35.720 so the police just stay away. It's wonderful. It's one of the perks of living in Swindon is that

00:42:41.560 you don't get bothered. Here's another one. It's a similar sort of vein here. Pensioner 82,

00:42:47.640 convicted of not paying car tax while in hospital, having toe amputated. You'd think that this would

00:42:53.800 be a situation where there would be some degree of understanding because they're having obviously

00:42:58.680 a serious operation. They're 82 years old. They have other things on their mind. They're not

00:43:03.720 thinking about their car tax. They sent in their medical records to explain the mistake and express

00:43:08.920 that they're willing to sort it out. And instead, they still received a criminal conviction.

00:43:14.760 Right. When I was working complaints for insurance, if anything like this happened,

00:43:22.360 if we had a problem like this with a customer, we had this term that we used, a very common term

00:43:29.800 called extenuating circumstances, meaning that circumstances outside of the control of the person

00:43:36.680 that we're speaking to that they can't account for that will lead to change in behavior outside of the norm.

00:43:44.200 And in something like this, you shrug your shoulders and say, well, you couldn't have seen that coming.

00:43:49.240 Clearly, your mind was on something else. So we won't punish you for this. Please pay.

00:43:54.520 Please pay your next bill. Something like that.

00:43:56.520 How we could do that as just some random insurance company with internal processes

00:44:05.320 and the judicial system of the United Kingdom, which goes back a very, very long time,

00:44:13.560 you'd think they'd have processes for this, is just a complete shame on this country.

00:44:19.240 It certainly is. And in fact, you know, the private company, they're acting more morally

00:44:25.560 than the state that's meant to serve us is just a testament to how far things have degraded.

00:44:31.080 Because it never used to be this way, did it?

00:44:32.840 Because sometimes the reason that it would come to the complaints is sometimes you would

00:44:37.080 get a jobs worth on the first line of communication to the person who would just go,

00:44:42.680 no, we can't do that. No, the rules say this, the rules say that. Whereas we had a little bit

00:44:46.840 more wiggle room to actually make decisions and have autonomy to say, well, that's perfectly reasonable.

00:44:53.880 So we so we'll make the exception for you. We had that like the like the entire judicial system

00:45:00.600 should have the right and authority to be able to say, given the circumstances, we'll make this exception.

00:45:07.400 And that's how it should be done as well. That's the moral thing to do. That's obviously the right

00:45:11.320 thing to do. And if you ask anyone with a functioning brain, that is how they want society to work.

00:45:16.440 And yet here we are just prosecuting innocent people who have done nothing wrong, but, you know,

00:45:23.160 make a mistake in the eyes of a bad law. I bet it will be somewhere along the line.

00:45:28.200 They've just got targets. They've got Blair era targets and they they have to meet them.

00:45:35.000 I bet that's what things like this are. It could even just be that the bureaucracy is so poisoned

00:45:42.840 against the population. You know, maybe even the people are resentful that they have to deal with

00:45:47.320 the public. Many public sector workers have delusions of grandeur, of course, that they're

00:45:52.600 just hostile to other people. I wouldn't put it past that as well. Obviously targets would be the

00:45:58.680 strongest incentive, but there are lots of other reasons that people could be doing this.

00:46:03.080 I actually think one of the best measures of a man or a woman, one of the best measures of a person's

00:46:11.080 character is how they deal with a little bit of power. When someone's given a little bit of power

00:46:17.960 or authority, if they immediately sort of become a little Napoleon, a little Hitler type person,

00:46:24.120 that speaks volumes. That's who they really are. And yeah, I hate those people.

00:46:29.800 I wholeheartedly agree, yeah. I think we've all worked in offices under those types of people.

00:46:36.120 They get a free visit to my shipping container. Yeah, with these people, I can only hope that

00:46:40.680 maybe appeals will show them a bit of justice. Some sort of ombudsman, some sort of appeal process.

00:46:47.640 And then they can punish the people that put them through this in the first place. You're 82 years

00:46:51.800 old. You've just had an amputation. This is the last thing you want. Of course, I've gone through

00:46:56.760 ombudsman with energy companies before and they were pretty useless. They basically facilitated,

00:47:03.400 yeah, well, you know, the company will pay about 200 pounds in damages. It'd been two years and

00:47:08.200 they'd taken a couple of thousand of my money. So it's like, oh, great. That's all I'm getting

00:47:13.960 in compensation. That's not even covering the interest of the money they took from me. Ridiculous.

00:47:18.200 Anyway, I'm not going to whinge about myself. Something that annoyed me was this, that the

00:47:23.240 advertising agency is just so ideological, I suppose, that apparently this lady is too thin

00:47:32.120 for an advert. This advert has been banned because apparently this is unhealthy. And to my mind, that's

00:47:40.760 fine. I don't really see a problem here. There's another advert here. Apparently too skinny.

00:47:49.080 Is this some weird delayed backlash to the old 90s supermodels where they were like really,

00:47:55.000 really skinny and everybody said it was healthy role models for women?

00:47:58.760 Because they think women have no personal agency and that if they see an advert, they think that,

00:48:04.360 oh, I must replicate this. I have no critical thinking. Rather than, you know, people can see

00:48:09.240 people skinnier than themselves and think, well, I don't particularly want to be like that.

00:48:13.640 You know, people aren't just, you know, receptacles for rhetoric and ideas. They can look at things

00:48:22.040 critically. I see nothing. I do agree. But with these sorts of things, I think they're able to think about it.

00:48:27.640 And most people these days are too fat already.

00:48:29.720 That's true.

00:48:30.360 That's just a very lean, skinny person. That's not, I've seen much skinnier.

00:48:35.400 I've dated women this skinny and yeah, they were perfectly healthy. They were fine.

00:48:40.520 There's no harm in it. It's silly. And there was another one as well, which annoyed me.

00:48:44.760 A Brewdog ad was banned for implying alcohol can cure boredom, which...

00:48:49.320 Aren't it?

00:48:50.840 My life experience seems to suggest it does. A lot of my time as a student seems to suggest

00:48:57.000 actually yes.

00:48:57.800 Why do you think people are going to the pub on the weekends?

00:49:00.120 Yeah.

00:49:01.400 And even if it is or it isn't, what's that got to do with...

00:49:05.560 What's that got to do with anything? What's that got to do with a state-run organ?

00:49:10.600 Yes.

00:49:10.920 That's to do with essentially, ultimately at the bottom line, to do with censorship.

00:49:15.640 Whether alcohol induces boredom or not, what's that got to do with them?

00:49:19.240 Well, the Advertising Standards Authority says that it implied that alcohol was a remedy

00:49:24.760 for disappointment, suffering and isolation. I'll just ignore my personal experience.

00:49:31.320 Well, even if it is, let's say it definitely is.

00:49:34.280 So? What's that got to do with...

00:49:38.040 What's that got to do with a regulator?

00:49:40.040 I know. It's silly. Like, if it were something lewd, where there was like nudity or something,

00:49:45.960 or there's swear words... You know, I can understand that degree of regulation for

00:49:50.760 public decency, right? But people are well aware of the dangers of alcohol. You know,

00:49:56.280 it's not going to be up to this one advert will change everything. So, sorry, but you think you've

00:50:01.960 got way more power and significance than you actually do. It doesn't actually matter. This obviously

00:50:07.240 doesn't affect the everyday lives of people that much. But it's just a really good demonstration

00:50:12.200 of how these bureaucrats have ridiculous amounts of power, and they're willing to bring it down on

00:50:18.280 nothing. Here's another one as well. Christian preacher threatened with arrest after being

00:50:23.560 assaulted by Muslim men on the street. And I don't like street preachers. It's nothing against

00:50:28.360 Christianity. I just don't... You know, even if they're preaching, you know, drink water,

00:50:32.680 it's really good for you. I'd be like, shut up, don't tell me what to do.

00:50:35.160 It's just my nature. I just don't... I want peace and quiet when I'm walking down the street. I don't

00:50:41.080 want to be shouted at by people. I find Muslim and Christian street preachers equally obnoxious,

00:50:46.280 I must admit. That's the fairest, most even-handed thing I've ever heard you say. But no, obviously

00:50:53.000 this is an injustice. I do think he has a right to speak his mind, and I don't think he should be

00:50:57.960 assaulted by especially Muslim men. And I don't think the police should be siding with the Muslim men.

00:51:03.160 And this is, you know, because it's an out of favour religion, basically, in Britain,

00:51:11.240 by the state's perspective, and they'll much rather side with the Muslims because they're much more of

00:51:16.760 interest to the state than Christians. He was the one that got in trouble for some reason. I don't know why.

00:51:22.920 What a terrible injustice. Was there given any reason? What could they possibly have arrested

00:51:29.000 him for? Yeah, it's not entirely clear. Apparently he's taking legal action against the Somerset police,

00:51:39.720 because I think this happened in Bristol, which of course everyone in Britain knows is very lefty,

00:51:44.520 so it's entirely possible that the police were that way inclined as well. He was saying it's an

00:51:50.840 example of two-tier policing. Who knows? There's not really much explanation for it.

00:51:56.520 It looks like one. It certainly does, doesn't it? And then there's also this. Of course,

00:52:02.680 one of the people that you don't want to be incredibly biased against people in tyrannical are

00:52:07.720 the intelligence agencies. And of course they are, very much so. And what they're doing is they're

00:52:15.560 reopening a summer internship where white people, white English people, can't apply. They're looking

00:52:21.960 for black, Asian, mixed heritage, or other ethnic minority backgrounds. Or you can say you're a

00:52:28.440 gypsy. Okay, that's true. Look at the bottom there. White, other, for example, gypsy, Scottish,

00:52:33.960 or Irish travellers. So I could sell myself as a Scottish traveller. I'm such a good traveller.

00:52:40.520 Just a very well-spoken one. I'm such a good traveller that I've actually adopted the English

00:52:45.080 way, you see. Amazing. Or you could put on a really thick Brad Pitt snatch accent and go for

00:52:50.920 Irish travellers. Do you like dogs? I like intelligence, I do. I'm sorry, why would you want gypsies

00:53:00.040 in the intelligence services? They're very good at stealing secrets. I'm sorry, why would I want

00:53:07.160 any of these people inside of the intelligence services? It's not like people of other races

00:53:14.520 outside of Europe have proven to have immense and insane in-group preference for their own.

00:53:20.600 Pre-saged where I was going with them. Instead of, you know, trying to apply rules

00:53:25.160 fairly to everybody on the basis of objectivity. It's not like they're not known for being the

00:53:30.360 exact opposite of that. Like, literally dozens upon dozens upon dozens of studies showing it

00:53:36.360 time and time and time again. And whole societies which act as enormous studies showing as it happens

00:53:42.040 time and time and time again. Remind me what happened to the farmers in Zimbabwe who were making

00:53:47.480 all the food for everybody. Did they go, well, they're providing a service to society,

00:53:52.840 therefore we'll keep them around because we're all benefiting from this and it would be fair.

00:53:57.160 Was that what happened? And then Zimbabwe became, no, it was the opposite.

00:54:01.480 It was the exact opposite. It was petty hatred and jealousy.

00:54:05.000 And that's what I want in my intelligence service.

00:54:09.080 It's particularly insane for the intelligence services,

00:54:11.080 because what you really need is like an unshakable loyalty to the crown.

00:54:15.800 That's what you need. So everything you just said is even more egregious.

00:54:23.240 Well, they're going to have dual loyalty, aren't they? What happens if they get a Pakistani and

00:54:27.560 he's got a spy on Pakistan or something? I don't think he'd be doing it in a summer internship. But

00:54:32.040 the point being here that the state, both intelligence agencies and the government,

00:54:39.800 are deliberately going out of their way to hire people from ethnic minority backgrounds,

00:54:44.440 which increases the chance that it's someone that will have a chip on their shoulder about

00:54:49.400 the native British people and will be willing to do the kinds of things we've seen

00:54:53.880 persecuting us.

00:54:54.760 And there'll be security breaches.

00:54:56.360 Exactly.

00:54:56.840 I mean, Marta Maid had a podcast and when he was on, Tucker Carlson recently spoke about how

00:55:02.600 when he was in the Department of Defense, they would be shown these big presentations about

00:55:07.560 how you're supposed to spot the telltale signs if somebody was going to leak information to a

00:55:13.400 foreign government. And they went through all of these different things, but they never addressed

00:55:17.720 the glaringly obvious thing that Marta Maid noticed and everybody else noticed, but nobody said

00:55:23.320 anything, which was that of the 10 cases they were shown, nine were Jews spying for Israel,

00:55:30.840 Chinese spying for China, Russians spying for Russia.

00:55:34.200 Dual citizenship, one might say.

00:55:36.120 Yeah. And it's like, well, and he put his hand up and said, well, this is the obvious thing.

00:55:41.560 What do we do about that? And they just said, don't do anything about it. Don't pay any attention to it.

00:55:47.000 Just ignoring reality for the sake of feelings and social recognition, isn't it?

00:55:52.520 And speaking of recognition, facial recognition tech can now mistake you for a criminal and you

00:55:59.400 will be arrested for it. So the technology is imperfect that's being used. And obviously I'm

00:56:05.080 in favor of catching actual criminals. But the idea is that we're in a stage now where we've got a

00:56:12.200 tyrannical system whereby ordinary people are persecuted more or less. And it could be the case that your

00:56:19.720 persecution starts just because the technology that's being used is imperfect, as well as the

00:56:24.600 people enforcing the laws, interpreting the laws and the entirety of society is very much imperfect.

00:56:31.560 And so your chance of getting swept up in something that in no way is your fault is much higher than it

00:56:37.400 would be in the past. Because, you know, if you have a person that witnesses a crime and you're, you know,

00:56:44.040 brought in front of them again, like, do you recognize, is this the person you saw?

00:56:48.360 You know, at least there's some degree of addressing the thing as uncertain, whereas people tend to

00:56:54.120 look at this technology as if it's infallible. And so it's much harder to say the technology is wrong.

00:56:59.480 And how you've also got to understand it to be able to argue against it, which is a sort of another

00:57:03.800 degree of tyranny, because you've got to have that baseline understanding of the technology being

00:57:08.440 used against you, which is just unreasonable. It would be terrifying if you didn't have an alibi.

00:57:14.920 The police come to you and say, we think, well, we've got footage of someone who looks exactly

00:57:19.640 like you doing this crime, and you don't have an alibi. Well, it scares me, because I spend a lot of

00:57:24.360 You'd be like, well, how can I disprove? Yeah, I spend a lot of my time in my flat, like,

00:57:28.440 on my own working. Right. In silence. Yeah.

00:57:31.320 Yeah, you can add an extra letter there if you want. A little bit of column A, a little bit of column B.

00:57:41.960 And there's also this as well. This was a labor plot to silence migrant hotel critics,

00:57:48.120 and it emerged that people from Whitehall, of course, that is the civil service,

00:57:53.880 their spy unit, complaining to tech firms about content mentioning asylum seekers and two-tier

00:57:58.680 policing. So this has obviously come out because a lot of the tech companies are empowered because

00:58:03.480 they're US-based and they're cosy with Trump now, so they've got protection. And so they feel

00:58:08.040 comfortable in not doing this and saying, you know, screw you, I'm not doing that. And so it's

00:58:13.880 emerged that the government was trying to silence critics online. And these are, of course, asylum

00:58:19.000 seekers and two-tier policing are perfectly legitimate political criticisms. There's actually

00:58:23.720 no good reason here. You know, I'm not saying that just because I'm partisan, as in even many

00:58:28.440 left-wingers would admit, okay, you know, I might not agree with you, but it's okay to talk about this

00:58:32.760 sort of stuff, maybe less so the asylum seeker stuff, but policing. So this is just flagrant abuse.

00:58:40.200 This is flagrant tyranny. This is silencing your critics on issues that are of clear importance,

00:58:49.240 and are obviously of clear importance because Keir Starmer himself addresses the issue of asylum

00:58:55.160 seekers and has talked about two-tier policing. If these are non-issues, if these are fringe extreme

00:59:00.520 issues, why are they being addressed by the person occupying the highest office in the land? It doesn't

00:59:05.320 make any sense, does it? And as well as that, while all of this is going on, thieves and drug dealers,

00:59:11.960 people who I think everyday citizens want to be removed from society and in prison are being

00:59:20.280 given warnings and rehabilitated rather than prison time. You know, thieves, drug dealers are dangerous

00:59:28.120 people that you don't want out on the street. They're doing that sort of thing because they're bad

00:59:33.240 people. There's no ifs or buts about it. And so why on earth are they being treated like this? These are

00:59:41.000 the kinds of people that you actually want in prison, along with violent offenders, right?

00:59:46.040 There's a lot of nonsense that people get imprisoned for, but this is one of the one roles. If the

00:59:53.080 government has a role is keeping its citizens safe, that's probably the main role it should have,

00:59:58.360 above all else. If they can't do that, then why do they exist? What's the point of them? There isn't

01:00:03.400 really one, is there? They exist to make sure that this happens. I guess so, yeah. Because if the

01:00:07.960 government didn't exist in its current form, then the public would be forced to deal with

01:00:12.680 criminals on the streets. A lot more peace and quiet, wouldn't we? Yeah, and we wouldn't be quite

01:00:16.920 so touchy-feely. Forgiving, yeah. Thieves and drug dealers avoid court and rapists and murderers get

01:00:23.240 minimal sentences. It's unbelievable. I mean, it's my opinion that people like sex offenders

01:00:33.080 and the like, especially if they target children, there's unequivocal death penalty. Yeah. It's like,

01:00:38.200 if the death penalty applies to anything, it's like murderers and sex criminals, right? It's so obvious

01:00:45.240 to me. And of course, zero percent re-offense rate. So you guarantee society is safe. It's why,

01:00:51.400 you know, we could have safe streets in Britain before mass migration is because we had a judicious

01:00:56.920 use of the death penalty. We took those people out of the gene pool. I mean, what's the recidivism

01:01:02.280 rate of the graveyard? Well, let's hope it doesn't go up, shall we? I would also give out very draconian

01:01:09.000 sentences for thievery, particularly repeat offenders. Not a 13-year-old stealing sweets

01:01:14.920 from a corner shop, but an adult that's repeatedly stolen cars. I would put them away for years and

01:01:19.800 years and years, that type of person. They're also like the homeless that have got like 50 or 60

01:01:25.960 convictions for petty theft. Yeah, yeah. They need to be taken out of the general population until

01:01:30.680 they're old. Yeah. In my opinion. And finally, if you want to give it all up and go and feed the

01:01:38.920 birds and get some peace of mind, here's an article from last year in the Guardian of all places. I was

01:01:44.360 fined £150 for feeding a pigeon a chip. Is this really how councils raise funds now? Which is a

01:01:51.400 perfectly reasonable article from the Guardian here, actually. Yeah, of course, it's all about raising

01:01:56.600 money. It's not actually about... It's about fining people to get some more money out of them

01:02:01.240 a lot of the time. Right. So it's a fixed penalty notice. Was this like littering or something? Yeah,

01:02:05.480 it was littering. But the pigeon ate it. Yeah. It's like if you drop something accidentally, is that

01:02:12.440 littering if you pick it up? Yeah. Yeah. So it's ridiculous. And there's also another case of this, elderly

01:02:19.080 residents. This was in East London, I think. It was Newham. Some elderly people were slapped with

01:02:27.480 £150 fine for feeding the birds in a London park. And although I don't agree with feeding all kinds of

01:02:33.400 different vermin, human included, there's no need for this. You know, a verbal caution of, I'm sorry,

01:02:43.240 but, you know, we're trying to reduce the number of birds around because they go to the toilet on

01:02:49.160 everything. It makes it unpleasant. Is it okay if you don't feed them here? That would have been

01:02:53.880 fine, right? You don't have to resort immediately to a fine. Because they've shown nothing but goodwill

01:02:59.560 so far, really, have they? You don't think, oh, those elderly people, they're spiting the law by

01:03:04.520 feeding the birds. They're doing it laughing and running away. Well, maybe not running.

01:03:08.920 That's why they target these kinds of people, typically, is because of the fact that they are

01:03:14.040 elderly. They do still have some kind of residual faith in the law and the institutions that uphold

01:03:19.960 it. So they are more likely to go along with it, even if it's unjust. Or at least that's how they

01:03:25.960 perceive it. And also just by being elderly, they've not really got as much energy to defend themselves.

01:03:30.840 They're less likely to kick up a stink about it all. Potentially. I mean, I'd kick up a stink.

01:03:36.840 Yeah, well, God, I would, yeah. I'm kicking up a stink on their behalf. I think they did kick up a stink

01:03:40.840 because it's in the national news. So I imagine that there's something been done about it.

01:03:45.800 I bet it was a case that whoever imposed the fine has got some sort of targets. You have to

01:03:52.920 try and generate... Maybe they get some degree of commission, even.

01:03:55.480 Maybe. Who knows? You have to generate as much as possible, but certainly this target. And we don't

01:04:01.640 care how you do it. We don't care if it's just or reasonable. Just get it done. And you end up with

01:04:07.960 this crap.

01:04:09.880 So, yes. Obviously, a lot of the largely political stuff gets a lot of publicity. But it's not just

01:04:16.680 that. And actually, a lot of this sort of stuff affects normal people's everyday lives. And this

01:04:21.640 is the kind of thing that when I talk to my non-political friends and family, they bring up

01:04:26.280 is this sort of stuff that they're scared of. Just that you can have, you know, a good

01:04:32.600 natured approach to the world and still be caught afoul by what I see as a tyrannical and unjust government.

01:04:41.160 All right. May I have the mouse, please?

01:04:42.760 I annoy Steve the mouse.

01:04:43.320 Just to say, because this won't go on YouTube now. If I was in a park and someone like a community

01:04:49.720 support officer came up to me and said that's... And I was breaking up a bit of bread and throwing it on the

01:04:54.200 ground for ducks or whatever. And the community support officer or someone or other came up to me

01:04:59.240 and said, that's littering. What's your name? I just went, no, no.

01:05:05.560 Just drink coffee.

01:05:06.360 Yeah. Yeah. Please, please.

01:05:09.160 They don't have the power to physically restrain you, so you can just leave.

01:05:12.280 Yeah.

01:05:12.600 That's what I do too.

01:05:13.640 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:05:14.680 I mean, just not having it.

01:05:15.880 I'll probably chew them out as well a little bit before I leave.

01:05:18.520 Yeah. Okay. Now, what's your name and number?

01:05:20.680 Well, they probably will tell you.

01:05:21.960 Well, I think they've got to. Yeah.

01:05:23.320 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think support workers of those kinds who are in my local

01:05:28.280 area aren't so bad. So it will really depend on what kind of...

01:05:32.760 It'd be a job's worth, Karen, wouldn't it?

01:05:34.280 Yeah. If you've got a bellend working in your local area. That's a random name because he said

01:05:39.400 a real noir says it's how zoomies say a naughty word. Thank you.

01:05:45.240 He also put Teehee as well.

01:05:46.600 He put Teehee at the end, yes. So I've learned something new today.

01:05:49.640 Uh, the engaged few, he who swishes behind the rose, that's in relation to the man with

01:05:55.480 his sickle and trowel.

01:05:56.600 Logan Pine says, I saw a petition for a general election with three million signatures.

01:06:01.080 Any PM from the 1800s to the 1930s would have resigned the second they saw that.

01:06:05.720 That's because they suffered from something called shame, which has been eliminated from

01:06:09.480 the political class for a long time.

01:06:10.600 Yeah, that petition is going to do nothing.

01:06:12.040 Yeah. The engaged few in Bowes Britain, this sort of petty overreach will be punished with

01:06:15.960 10 lashes and forfeiture of one month's pay from the victim.

01:06:19.720 Well, 200 licks of the cat.

01:06:23.560 Yeah.

01:06:23.720 I mean, that's a bit much.

01:06:24.920 10 seems a bit lenient in Bowes Britain.

01:06:28.840 10 for first offence, 200 for a second.

01:06:31.160 Yes.

01:06:31.720 Third offence, the gibbet.

01:06:35.000 That's a random name. Working in Quebec's NHS, the place is full of petty tyrant retards who care

01:06:40.440 more about the process than the results.

01:06:41.880 I was reprimanded for helping patients before my shift started.

01:06:45.400 Yes.

01:06:45.800 How dare you go out of your way to be kind to other people.

01:06:49.240 And that really does just promote antisocial behaviour from people, doesn't it?

01:06:54.280 Because I think it's good to help people in need.

01:06:58.840 Shocking take, I know.

01:07:00.200 Not very radical right wing of me, but if somebody is deserving of your help, help them.

01:07:07.560 Simple.

01:07:08.280 Hapsification.

01:07:09.160 At some point, we need to replace these bureaucrats with AI.

01:07:11.640 Let's remember the current version of AI is always the worst version and the future version

01:07:14.840 is always more advanced.

01:07:15.640 I disagree.

01:07:16.760 Obviously, there is a progress of technology.

01:07:18.600 However, I do not trust AI.

01:07:20.920 I don't want to take the human element out of these things.

01:07:23.480 We need to replace these bureaucrats who aren't human to begin with, with our friends,

01:07:27.960 people that we can trust.

01:07:29.240 And most of the positions need to be called in the first place.

01:07:32.600 About 80 to 90% of it needs to be just not replaced with anything.

01:07:37.080 I mean, look at what I was talking about last week that got you in a rage where it was something like 75% of the civil service in England is management.

01:07:48.840 If you looked at a private company like that, you'd be like, hang on a minute, what's going on?

01:07:54.520 Well, they'd go under.

01:07:55.320 Yeah.

01:07:55.400 Their finances wouldn't make any sense.

01:07:57.320 And surprise, surprise, Britain's finances make no sense.

01:08:00.520 I wonder if there's any connection.

01:08:01.560 Or an army.

01:08:02.280 70% of the army are like captains.

01:08:05.320 How does that make any sense?

01:08:07.320 It wouldn't make any sense, would it?

01:08:08.280 It doesn't work.

01:08:09.560 Yeah, there needs to be a hierarchy.

01:08:11.240 Not everybody can just be like leveled out to a middle manager.

01:08:14.520 Because guess what?

01:08:15.240 Nothing happens.

01:08:16.040 I also must say, I disagree with hapsification.

01:08:18.680 I'd like to live in a world where there is no AI.

01:08:21.000 Yes, I would agree.

01:08:21.960 The world before AI was better.

01:08:23.960 I want a world filled with trustworthy people, ideally.

01:08:30.280 But have you considered that black people are fooled by those historic pictures that are made by AI?

01:08:36.120 That alone is hilarious and redeeming.

01:08:39.160 But we have our own artists who can make equally convincing.

01:08:42.760 Pronounced autists, sorry.

01:08:44.040 Yes, sorry.

01:08:46.040 The engaged few.

01:08:47.000 Clearly, UK organs of state need to cut back on the Viagra.

01:08:50.840 Skit and Hund.

01:08:51.560 I'm thinking about visiting the UK for my birthday, but what are the odds I'd be stabbed in Swindon?

01:08:55.400 There are much nicer places to go.

01:08:57.160 I wouldn't advise coming here.

01:09:00.360 The middle of Swindon is crap, but the rest of rural Wiltshire is lovely.

01:09:05.320 Wiltshire is nice, the county it's in.

01:09:08.360 Go to Avebury.

01:09:09.240 Bath is nice.

01:09:10.280 Bath is nice, which is very close to Swindon.

01:09:13.320 Go to like Bath, Oxford, Cambridge, you know, if you're in sort of middle England.

01:09:17.320 Go down to Dorset and Somerset.

01:09:18.920 It's lovely.

01:09:19.640 You could even do that, yeah.

01:09:21.000 Have a nice cider.

01:09:22.680 Any luck dealing with them swans, eh?

01:09:25.960 It's just the one swan, actually.

01:09:28.200 That's a random name.

01:09:29.160 Josh spent the last months of unemployment chasing ghosts in his flat as seen by the ectoplasm left all over the place.

01:09:35.320 How did you know about my ghost problem?

01:09:39.320 Windy Hill House, the beard looks great, Bo, took you from church brother to, and I refuse to read that, Bo can read the last word if he wants, the yellow one.

01:09:49.400 From church brother to daddy?

01:09:51.240 Yes.

01:09:53.160 There you go.

01:09:54.200 And that's a random name as well.

01:09:55.640 For the record, I still helped patients before my shifts despite the reprimands.

01:09:58.920 I was also told I acted inappropriately with patients for being nice to them whilst they were in labour.

01:10:05.320 You've got to be mean to get the baby out.

01:10:07.960 Meanness helps.

01:10:08.600 You've got to teach them a lesson from the moment they come out into the world.

01:10:11.560 Set their expectations.

01:10:13.480 Slap a newborn baby.

01:10:14.680 You're supposed to berate the mother during labour, is that...

01:10:17.800 This is the worst pregnancy I've ever seen, like a drill sergeant.

01:10:20.760 You're slow, we've got many to get through here, love, come on.

01:10:22.840 Come on, hurry up, hurry up.

01:10:26.440 Yeah.

01:10:27.160 Anyway, alright, let's talk about science.

01:10:31.720 Science has brought us a great many innovations and a great many good things in the world,

01:10:36.440 but there is an interesting sphere of science which seems to be the sphere of pointless and useless studies

01:10:44.680 that only exist, I assume, to one, reaffirm the immensely obvious, and two, gain consistent funding for the people who are conducting these studies and surveys

01:10:56.760 again and again and again so that they can, you know, make a living and tell their friends that they have a career as a scientist.

01:11:02.280 Does this equate with your experience somewhat, Josh?

01:11:06.280 Well, allow me to play devil's advocate a little bit here because in psychology there were lots of things that we were studying that were sort of common knowledge,

01:11:14.760 but we had to not only study them to be able to quantify them and make sure that the sort of colloquial knowledge, you know, the anecdote is true,

01:11:24.520 but also that some of the data you get is useful in having a deeper understanding than you would have just by, you know, being a person in the world.

01:11:33.400 And so, you know, you can identify patterns with those numbers and there's basically more utility in carrying out a study

01:11:40.680 and it's also a jumping off point for more depth and you've got to have this sort of this initial study which then lots of others branch out of.

01:11:49.080 And so sometimes a study may appear pointless that isn't, although I don't doubt there will be some ridiculous ones.

01:11:57.480 And what I tend to find, the most pointless studies are the ones that some postgraduate has cooked up to give them a nice leapfrog into having some degree of public facing acknowledgement.

01:12:09.960 So they've used lots of buzzwords and they've made it very trendy.

01:12:12.840 They tried to make sexy science, as us scientists call it, which is frowned upon.

01:12:17.480 Scientists have to be unsexy, which, you know, I'm keeping it real.

01:12:21.720 Yep. You were really holding up your end of the bargain there.

01:12:24.200 A broader point, though, that's definitely true. And it's not just in science, because I've worked in sort of, you know, like private enterprises before.

01:12:35.000 Anywhere where there's a budget, there's the tendency to always spend all of the budget and be asking for more.

01:12:43.240 Always, even if you don't need to, even if you have to contrive that situation.

01:12:48.120 If you say your costs, then you might get the budget cut next year.

01:12:50.920 Exactly, exactly.

01:12:52.200 And so that will go, that's just, that's just the way the world sort of works, really.

01:12:57.880 Capitalist world works.

01:12:59.720 I've heard stories of militaries just firing off rounds because it's, you know, it uses up their budget.

01:13:05.000 Yeah.

01:13:06.040 I mean, it makes, it makes sense from a very utilitarian point of view, if you just wanted to get the money.

01:13:10.680 Right. Either way, though, so I do agree that gathering statistics and such and quantifying and codifying a lot of this stuff can be very, very useful.

01:13:19.880 And when it reaffirms things that we already know, it can kind of wrap around to being retroactively pointless, even though it just, even though it's actually more guarantee of the things that we were already certain of.

01:13:32.760 Right. But some of the ones that I'm going through are not necessarily bad because of that.

01:13:37.720 It's more that they are operating off of faulty premises that they do not want to acknowledge because of political correctness, which is mainly going to be affecting the first study that I will be looking at.

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01:14:30.920 So please do that. So this first study that I wanted to look at was one of those ones that you look at the results that have been generated so far and you go,

01:14:39.180 So this is blindingly obvious, clearly, because it turns out that if you just hand cash to poor families, it doesn't make the children any smarter.

01:14:53.180 Just injecting a direct flow of money into the brain of an idiot child does not actually increase their IQ points.

01:15:04.100 Yeah, it just increases their parents' drug habit.

01:15:06.020 Injections of liquid cash directly to the brain.

01:15:10.080 Yeah, they just pump it down and then you inject it straight into their brain.

01:15:14.000 It turns out it does not improve their chances of doing well at school.

01:15:17.880 Now, this is rigorous new research that was done under the name Baby's First Years,

01:15:23.380 and they actually did control for the spending habits of the parents themselves.

01:15:28.200 So they were making sure that the extra money, they split them into a few groups.

01:15:32.420 One was being given $333 a month, and another was being given $20 a month.

01:15:39.060 And they were expecting that of these two groups, the ones that were being given $333, the higher amount,

01:15:45.860 would form better in terms of child development, that having access to greater funds would allow the children to, say,

01:15:54.040 do better with well-being, with language skills, with cognitive function, etc., etc.

01:16:01.920 Could I guess why this has happened?

01:16:06.240 Because, of course, the same reason that their families are poor are the same reason that their children might not be doing too well at school,

01:16:14.040 and that these two things correlate pretty strongly, I imagine,

01:16:18.340 because the same skills that make you successful in life tend to make you successful as a parent.

01:16:25.520 Well, yes, they completely ignore any question of hereditary traits,

01:16:30.800 which is the glaring flaw of this study, which makes the results, one, blindingly obvious if you had taken hereditary traits into account in the first place.

01:16:42.280 And it also compounds as well in that your hereditary traits will also shape the environment.

01:16:47.900 So if you've got a parent who's very stupid, well, you know, their environment also is going to reinforce their own stupidity,

01:16:56.060 and therefore they're going to be, like, doubly stupid raising the child.

01:17:00.080 Yes, and so the results from this, again, they were expecting that the people being given more money,

01:17:05.380 their children would do better.

01:17:06.940 Instead, they found that they were no more likely to develop language skills,

01:17:12.140 avoid behavioural problems or developmental delays,

01:17:15.260 demonstrate executive function or exhibit brain activity associated with cognitive development.

01:17:21.040 Because what they did, they went all the way with this.

01:17:25.260 They used a, let me see here,

01:17:28.100 children in both groups showed similar patterns of brain activity on the study's main neurological yardstick,

01:17:33.940 an index of high-frequency brain activity, as measured by a,

01:17:38.140 and you'll have to forgive me if I pronounce this wrong,

01:17:40.340 electro-enephealogram, a high, which measured high-frequency brain activity.

01:17:46.900 Wait, where are you reading that from?

01:17:48.120 That was so wrong, I can't tell what you're trying to say.

01:17:51.080 I am very sorry.

01:17:52.000 I didn't mean it in a bad way.

01:17:53.100 I've highlighted it in the document, if you scroll down and find my highlight.

01:17:56.620 The high-frequency brain activity is often associated...

01:17:59.120 Oh, an electrocephalogram.

01:18:01.440 Oh, cephalogram. Ah, yes, I missed the C.

01:18:04.800 Thank you very much.

01:18:05.900 So they were actually measuring the children's higher-function brain activities as well,

01:18:11.000 as they were going through this.

01:18:12.800 And again, found that more money, no equal more brain.

01:18:21.140 No money, more money, no equal more brain.

01:18:24.380 Me confused.

01:18:26.100 More money?

01:18:27.060 Yes, sure.

01:18:27.900 No help.

01:18:28.800 Oh.

01:18:29.040 No help at all.

01:18:30.500 It's only like $300 or whatever.

01:18:32.420 It's not that much, really.

01:18:34.780 It's not that much money.

01:18:35.840 And what...

01:18:36.600 I'll take you for $300.

01:18:37.900 You're going to buy a few more books, maybe.

01:18:38.340 I mean, so, like, I grew up pretty dirt poor, right?

01:18:42.440 I went to a comprehensive school where everyone was, like, working class, basically.

01:18:48.400 And the reason why I did all right, I suppose, you could be the judge of that out there.

01:18:53.880 The reason why I did all right, you know, went to a decent union, all that sort of thing,

01:18:57.360 is simply because my household was sort of a reading household.

01:19:03.240 Same here.

01:19:03.780 It's pretty much...

01:19:04.520 It was pretty much that.

01:19:05.920 Right?

01:19:06.060 I was brought up semi-strict, so I was not really naughty, particularly.

01:19:09.860 I was quite a well-behaved child.

01:19:11.400 And read a bit.

01:19:13.280 That's it.

01:19:13.700 That was the difference.

01:19:14.420 Between me, who went on to do A-levels and go to uni and do a post-grad, and someone

01:19:19.640 that just left school at 16 with hardly any GCSEs.

01:19:23.120 We read a bit in my household.

01:19:24.840 That's it.

01:19:25.320 There's nothing to do with money.

01:19:26.620 The books were dirt cheap, like 99p Penguin paperback, secondhand or whatever, from Oxfam

01:19:31.520 or something.

01:19:31.980 It doesn't cost all that much money to buy a few books.

01:19:35.260 Or there's a thing called a library where you get the books for free.

01:19:38.020 And again, the environment does play a role in it, but the question becomes, was the environment

01:19:45.560 the entirety of the role played, or was the hereditary traits, the behavior of your parents

01:19:51.220 that they passed down onto you and their own behavior themselves, what created that

01:19:54.780 environment and gave you the traits that made you more likely to be inquisitive and

01:19:59.580 curious and pick up a book?

01:20:01.260 I would argue it's those traits that came first that create the environment that you

01:20:05.860 grew up in.

01:20:06.560 You're right.

01:20:06.960 You're absolutely right.

01:20:07.500 And, and it wasn't about money.

01:20:11.400 Yeah.

01:20:12.060 We didn't have any money.

01:20:13.900 We had a few hundred books, but no, it wasn't about money.

01:20:17.920 But the fact that this completely ignores any question of these traits which are passed

01:20:24.200 down generationally, it leads to the people who then see these results and say, as Greg

01:20:30.060 J. Duncan did, an economist at the University of California, I was very surprised.

01:20:35.900 We were all very surprised that the money didn't make a difference.

01:20:39.940 And the thing was they tried to hide this because it says here, if I scroll down, that they initially, lots of other studies had been done on very short scale, on short time scales that seem to suggest that if you have more money, the families get better results.

01:21:01.460 But again, it says, but again, it says, long been clear, children from affluent families exhibit stronger cognitive developments and fewer behavioral problems.

01:21:08.360 But I guess, of course, they get the causative elements there completely mixed up.

01:21:12.940 It's because they're already likely to behave well and be more intelligent that they become more successful and earn more money.

01:21:22.400 So they're completely mixing that up and just think, well, more money, more brain, more money, more brain.

01:21:29.800 And this study has just looked one shot, many of them.

01:21:33.680 And so it says...

01:21:34.900 You need to look at Africa, look at all the aid that they've received in Africa or look at Haiti.

01:21:40.260 The GDP of their country is equivalent to the amount of foreign aid they've received.

01:21:44.640 It's not improved Haiti, it's still, you know, scarcely habitable as a land.

01:21:53.180 Yeah, and shockingly enough, they recruited the 1,000 poor mothers with newborns from New York, New Orleans, Greater Omaha, Minneapolis, St. Paul.

01:22:03.640 More than 80% were black or Latino and most were unmarried.

01:22:08.980 So what a surprise that we received these, that we got these results.

01:22:13.580 So they were saying here, though an earlier paper showed promising activity related to neurological measure in the high cash influence, the trend did not endure.

01:22:24.620 The new study detected some evidence of other differences, but the significance was unclear.

01:22:30.760 And while researchers published the earlier, more promising results and publicized them, the follow-up study was released very quietly and received little attention.

01:22:41.020 So they were trying to hide it.

01:22:42.160 They're only trying to hide it.

01:22:44.300 And in the exact way that you would expect, many people have reacted to this particular study saying,

01:22:51.380 clearly, I figured out the problem.

01:22:54.400 They need more money.

01:22:58.520 $333.

01:22:59.660 That's nowhere near enough.

01:23:01.880 A month as well.

01:23:02.940 That's, was it a month?

01:23:05.120 I can't remember.

01:23:05.980 That's what he said.

01:23:06.580 But if that, if that is the case, that's actually quite a lot to spend on your child's education, isn't it?

01:23:12.040 That's pretty considerable.

01:23:13.420 It can improve the quality of the food that you're buying.

01:23:16.380 That should be the kid's food for the whole month, surely.

01:23:19.840 So if not more.

01:23:20.920 If you go to a car boot sale or secondhand bookstore, you can buy quite a few books for that every month.

01:23:28.760 Quite a few.

01:23:29.300 You just have to force the kid to sit down and actually read them.

01:23:33.560 That's going to be difficult in some of these family situations with only one parent.

01:23:38.280 But, you know.

01:23:39.740 Or they never learn to read properly at all.

01:23:41.980 Probably.

01:23:42.340 And Arlok Sherman of the Centre on Budget and Policy Priorities, who supports income guarantees, of course, says that,

01:23:50.520 I don't think these results undermine the conclusion from a large volume of studies that income is important for a children's health, education and development.

01:23:58.560 And that's such a broad way of describing it.

01:24:00.620 Obviously, having money is important for their health and education and parts of their development.

01:24:07.800 If they can't, if you can't feed them, they'll starve.

01:24:09.800 But that doesn't necessarily, again, that doesn't mean that you can, like, add on an extra 15 IQ points by giving them stacks of cash.

01:24:19.620 It's a very subtle rhetorical thing.

01:24:21.300 Or else Lil Wayne would have really, like, skyrocketed from album to album.

01:24:26.780 He'd have been more intelligent each way, each go around.

01:24:30.180 Same with Dr. Dre.

01:24:31.540 Jay-Z, he should be a scientific genius by now.

01:24:34.980 So, what he's saying isn't actually untrue, but in the context of what he's saying is misleading.

01:24:42.900 So, he's saying that money is important.

01:24:45.500 Well, no one's disputing that.

01:24:46.740 A certain threshold, sure.

01:24:48.400 But I think everyone in the United States has a quality of living whereby poverty isn't really a proper concern, unless it's self-inflicted from behaviour.

01:24:56.660 And so, the financial aspect isn't really a problem, even though what he's saying factually is correct.

01:25:04.000 Like, you look at somewhere else where there is a problem with, you know, actually getting what you need, then that's perfectly true.

01:25:11.220 But it makes people think that actually you do need money to make children successful, which isn't true.

01:25:16.400 It's like they have this strange, mystical idea that if you have a stupid child and simply put a stack of cash near them, the magical transitive properties of the cash will make them more intelligent.

01:25:28.900 Almost certainly not.

01:25:30.240 No, that's not how it works.

01:25:32.480 Do you think force-feeding them cash might help?

01:25:35.840 Well, we've not tried that study yet, Beau.

01:25:38.020 So, if you'd like to try and get funding for it, and willing participants.

01:25:42.000 If we could do some sort of study to see if making children ingest gold coins makes them cleverer.

01:25:49.180 You know, money, more money, more cleverer.

01:25:53.540 It's a promising realm of scientific research.

01:25:56.320 I think someone might be willing to fund that for you.

01:25:59.140 Josh, you've got the connections.

01:26:01.040 Get on it.

01:26:02.080 Get some electrodes involved.

01:26:03.660 And who else?

01:26:04.360 Jane Wildfogel, a professor at Columbia University who wrote a book on child benefits, said that it was just not enough money.

01:26:14.440 It was just not enough money.

01:26:16.120 And exactly, actually, well, the Democrats want to offer about two or three times more than that.

01:26:21.800 So, if we just gave them an extra grand a month, then the baby's brains will grow by three times as well.

01:26:28.280 Kind of like the Grinch in his heart.

01:26:30.020 It's worth mentioning as well that even if it was too small an amount of money, they still would have observed an effect, right?

01:26:38.600 It's scalable if it's just the amount of money.

01:26:42.040 And so, they're not even looking at the right explanation for the outcome there.

01:26:47.520 It's just not money.

01:26:48.620 It's about being diligent, being raised right, being inquisitive.

01:26:53.880 You could be dirt poor and still be inquisitive.

01:26:56.200 It reminds me of a bit in an old South Park episode where Magic Johnson, who's lived with HIV-AIDS for many, many years, he was just injecting liquid cash.

01:27:08.160 How has Magic Johnson stayed alive?

01:27:10.400 Yeah, he didn't trust the bank, so he just kept all of his cash in his bedroom, like stuffed into his mattress.

01:27:17.180 So, him being surrounded by cash and sleeping on it every night stopped him from having AIDS.

01:27:24.140 And so, Cartman, if I remember, he goes around Africa going, don't worry, guys, just have money.

01:27:29.740 Have money and you'll be fine.

01:27:31.260 And all the Africans are staring at him.

01:27:34.420 Yeah.

01:27:35.020 Yeah, it doesn't work that way, sadly.

01:27:37.140 It's a classic leftist thing, though, isn't it, to justify why we need to...

01:27:41.180 Be socialists.

01:27:42.420 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:43.620 We need to steal money from anyone, certainly all rich people, they need to be eaten, if anything.

01:27:48.520 But even middle class people or Kulaks, even they are an issue.

01:27:52.840 And their money needs to be redistributed to poor people.

01:27:56.740 All of that is to justify that, isn't it?

01:27:59.140 Yes.

01:27:59.760 I mean, look...

01:28:00.200 It just doesn't make any sense.

01:28:01.160 It's not how real world and real people work.

01:28:03.820 And look at the people who were coming out of the other end of the results of this, still saying, well, it's just more money.

01:28:11.320 So, they'll take these results and say, well, we didn't go far enough.

01:28:14.920 It's the same with any sort of, like, government budgetary overreach.

01:28:18.040 Well, if we have all of these social programs and affirmative action and they don't work at first, do it more.

01:28:24.100 And that will somehow lead to greater conclusions.

01:28:27.840 And so that's an example.

01:28:29.740 We're almost running out of time now, so I'll speed up.

01:28:32.220 That's an example of science made pointless by the fact that it didn't consider the actual cause

01:28:38.200 or one of the actual most important factors that should be considered in what it is testing.

01:28:44.160 Which is, if you're talking about cognitive development, what are the hereditary traits?

01:28:48.120 What are the behaviors of the family from generation to generation?

01:28:51.700 What would that suggest for the development of the child?

01:28:55.160 The most obvious thing in the world.

01:28:56.860 They ignored it because to do so would be politically incorrect and not in favor of the results that they were looking for already.

01:29:03.940 Here's some other fun ones.

01:29:05.720 This one's actually quite useful here, which is avoiding ultra-processed foods might double weight loss.

01:29:13.760 Shock.

01:29:14.360 I know, right?

01:29:15.060 Breaking.

01:29:15.680 What this is suggesting...

01:29:16.600 Breaking news.

01:29:17.020 If the food that you eat is not full of additives, then it's healthier for you.

01:29:24.000 But the interesting thing of this one as well was that even when the people involved in the studies, who are all American,

01:29:30.160 so their diet was presumably absolute trash before they started this study anyway,

01:29:35.140 turns out even if you are eating ultra-processed foods that just aren't complete shit,

01:29:40.200 that actually have all the nutrients that you need in them,

01:29:43.060 you will probably still lose weight if you're trying to.

01:29:45.940 So just don't stuff your mouth with ultra-processed garbage and you might lose some weight.

01:29:53.920 Thank you very much for that one, Science.

01:29:56.580 Wow.

01:29:56.720 I know.

01:29:57.300 Here's another one.

01:29:58.600 This might shock you.

01:29:59.740 You might be shocked out of your chair right now.

01:30:01.740 A healthy lifestyle can help your brain.

01:30:04.900 No way.

01:30:05.620 And keep it healthier as you get older.

01:30:08.540 But there's already research just like learning the piano or an instrument or a second language helps you with dementia.

01:30:16.420 They're even able to quantify it.

01:30:18.060 Like I think learning a second language reduces your chance of dementia.

01:30:21.560 This is off the top of my head, so I could be misremembering.

01:30:24.100 By around 6%.

01:30:25.540 I might be conflating that with a different study.

01:30:28.720 That sounds pretty reasonable.

01:30:29.920 So what you're suggesting is that if you exercise, you eat well, and you keep your mind active, it reduces your chance of dementia.

01:30:38.840 Yes.

01:30:39.580 And weight gain.

01:30:41.360 And that.

01:30:42.000 My God.

01:30:43.400 My God.

01:30:44.560 And I'm sure there weren't already dozens of scientific papers confirming this already.

01:30:49.140 We really needed this one to be funded so that we could really just put the cherry on top of that cake.

01:30:56.680 That big delicious cake.

01:30:58.080 Here's another one.

01:30:59.660 Walking is healthy for you.

01:31:02.540 No, I don't believe that.

01:31:04.080 Moving.

01:31:04.840 I don't.

01:31:05.340 Moving is healthy.

01:31:06.000 Surely not.

01:31:06.520 We work in an office, Bo.

01:31:07.700 Surely not.

01:31:08.140 I understand we don't do much moving.

01:31:09.680 But it turns out that moving more is more good for you.

01:31:13.560 But you don't have to move quite as much as we once thought for it to still be good for you.

01:31:18.720 They used to recommend 10,000 steps.

01:31:20.920 Now it turns out 7,000 steps can be just as good.

01:31:25.120 Move more, more good.

01:31:28.000 Thank you, science.

01:31:29.420 But not all of those 7,000 steps will be equal.

01:31:32.060 I mean, walking uphill is more per step.

01:31:35.120 No, no, no.

01:31:35.680 More move, more good.

01:31:37.840 Okay.

01:31:38.340 Don't complicate it with any of that subjective nonsense.

01:31:42.740 But, you know, that's all mostly harmless, right?

01:31:46.200 There are studies that will go out of their way to suggest things that I would be a little

01:31:52.680 bit skeptical of as well, like this one.

01:31:56.440 The new contraceptive pill, according to a study, the contraceptive pill for men, perfectly

01:32:03.340 safe.

01:32:04.700 Perfectly safe.

01:32:05.580 It's perfectly fine.

01:32:06.380 It doesn't reduce your testosterone, your sex drive, or hormonal imbalance.

01:32:10.520 All it does is reduce your, stop your body from producing, or like limit your body from

01:32:17.060 producing a particular protein which helps with sperm production.

01:32:21.280 All it does is lower your sperm count so that it's less likely for women to get pregnant when

01:32:28.660 they have sex with you unprotected.

01:32:30.420 And I'm sure that this will have no long-term negative side effects.

01:32:37.580 Just the unnatural reduction of your body's ability to produce sperm.

01:32:43.060 The second you stop taking it, you go exactly back to where you were before.

01:32:47.320 I guess so.

01:32:48.440 I've never heard of a contraceptive pill for men.

01:32:51.380 This is something that feminists have been really angry about for a long time.

01:32:56.300 The men don't have one.

01:32:57.380 Yeah, the idea that they have to, but the thing is, I've seen, I've seen what the contraceptive

01:33:03.460 pill does to women.

01:33:05.740 Like, do I want to do that to myself?

01:33:08.520 Would I take something?

01:33:09.600 No.

01:33:10.960 No.

01:33:11.960 No, that's just my subjective opinion.

01:33:14.700 Josh, you're the office contrarian, so would you take this?

01:33:19.820 No.

01:33:20.680 I agree with you.

01:33:22.000 I'm such a contrarian, I've gone full circle.

01:33:24.160 No, I'm very suspicious of this, and also, one initial trial, sure, and I mean, medical

01:33:32.320 trials tend to be a lot stricter than a lot of others, and generally speaking, it's easier

01:33:39.280 to take the research at face value.

01:33:40.820 But of course, we know from recent events that that's not always true, is it?

01:33:45.260 And so, with technologies that have a political element, particularly medical ones.

01:33:50.100 And this is a very politically driven push for a male contraceptive pill in the first

01:33:55.000 place?

01:33:55.420 I would have my suspicions.

01:33:57.520 I think looking at the evidence and making up your own mind is the best you can do.

01:34:02.660 I wouldn't advise anyone to mess with their hormones at all unless you had to.

01:34:07.240 If you've got a problem, a medical problem, and doctors say it's in your best interest

01:34:12.000 to do this because you've got an issue, okay, that's something different.

01:34:14.420 But if you're essentially a healthy person, don't mess with your hormone balance.

01:34:19.080 If it's in balance, count your lucky stars, and long may it last.

01:34:24.220 Don't mess about with it.

01:34:25.840 That's my advice.

01:34:27.500 Very true, yeah.

01:34:28.580 Why would you?

01:34:29.680 And that's a scientifically guaranteed statement right there.

01:34:34.680 Don't mess about with it.

01:34:35.640 Yeah, just don't mess about with it.

01:34:36.980 Just don't mess about with it.

01:34:38.280 That is probably more useful than science like this, and much science which is just confirming

01:34:43.820 the obvious, but always be careful of the political reasons for why particular science

01:34:49.580 is undertaken, and be careful when stuff like this, the first study that we looked at, is

01:34:54.680 confirming the obvious.

01:34:57.700 Examine why that is and what factors that the people undertaking the research have left out,

01:35:04.320 which might be the actual causal factors that they're just ignoring.

01:35:07.360 And if you take the male contraceptive pill, you're a cuck.

01:35:12.460 All right, we've got some...

01:35:14.160 That's why I would never do roids.

01:35:16.360 We can overrun as much as we need.

01:35:17.680 Yeah, we can overrun as much as we need.

01:35:19.080 That's why I would never ever do any sort of roids, because, well, for a start, at some

01:35:24.040 point you've got to stop taking them, right?

01:35:25.380 So it's only ever going to be temporary.

01:35:27.220 No, I didn't think you needed them.

01:35:29.120 I don't.

01:35:29.700 That's a good point.

01:35:30.480 That's a good point.

01:35:31.100 No, I wouldn't, because, again, you're messing with, you're playing with fire.

01:35:36.280 I would never do it.

01:35:37.460 If you get old, and you want some sort of tea replacement thing, I think Joe Rogan

01:35:42.240 and other people talk about it, okay, that's something different.

01:35:44.160 And women, when they get older, like hormone replacement therapy and stuff like that, okay,

01:35:48.080 that's something different.

01:35:49.260 That's reasonable.

01:35:50.960 But you're a young, healthy person, and you just want to be super jacked.

01:35:54.680 So you start taking, like, stuff like that.

01:35:58.700 It's like, oh, yes.

01:35:59.360 All I needed to hear was that it shrinks your testicles.

01:36:01.600 I was like, yep, never doing that.

01:36:02.940 No chance.

01:36:03.880 Yeah, yeah.

01:36:04.280 I mean, the natural testosterone in healthy levels, and they do shift this about sometimes,

01:36:12.480 and I think it's kind of sneaky.

01:36:13.980 They used to say between 300 nanograms per deciliter in your blood and 1,000.

01:36:19.460 Recently, I've noticed that they've started to shift that to between 200 and 800, which

01:36:25.100 seems a little bit suspicious to me.

01:36:27.060 But if your range, if for whatever reason you get it tested, and so you've got 600 nanograms

01:36:32.280 per deciliter of testosterone, yeah, it's not the highest it can be, but that's healthy

01:36:36.920 levels, perfectly reasonable.

01:36:39.000 If you take testosterone as a steroid, which, you know, it always raises your testosterone

01:36:45.480 levels, it's been known to go up to, like, 10,000 nanograms per deciliter.

01:36:51.700 Completely unhealthy level, which does cause cognitive problems.

01:36:55.120 It literally makes you dumber, and it also causes memory issues, emotional issues.

01:37:00.360 And then when you come off it, because your body has got used to receiving it from outside

01:37:06.060 the body, stops producing it naturally, so you come off of testosterone, you come off

01:37:10.980 of it, and all of a sudden there have been stories, I've seen it happen to these YouTubers,

01:37:17.360 where they come off of the steroids, and their levels of T levels literally drop to zero.

01:37:21.820 Yeah, their body has stopped making it.

01:37:23.740 It's stopped making it and doesn't know how to produce it anymore, so they have to go

01:37:27.340 onto TRT.

01:37:28.000 So you basically become a permanent patient for these clinics.

01:37:32.940 And can you imagine going from being so over-masculinized that the slightest thing can make you furious,

01:37:42.880 like you can hear a bird song and you'll want to fight the bird, to all of a sudden having

01:37:47.640 literally no testosterone in your body at all?

01:37:50.540 The mood swing and depression that that would onset you?

01:37:53.200 It's just not worth it.

01:37:54.580 I saw a documentary once, it was about this, called The Man Whose Arms Exploded.

01:37:59.080 He was this guy, this massive, massive roid head.

01:38:01.080 Ridiculous.

01:38:01.660 Oh yeah.

01:38:01.960 Like a, you know, like a...

01:38:03.080 It wasn't Rich Piano, was it?

01:38:04.260 No, no, but it was that sort of level of jacked.

01:38:06.680 It was ridiculous.

01:38:07.500 And he ended up going to prison for dealing steroids.

01:38:11.140 And in prison he had to sort of go cold turkey.

01:38:14.960 And yeah, apparently his balls shrunk to the size of raisins and he had the T level of an

01:38:19.820 eight-year-old girl, i.e. none, effectively almost none.

01:38:23.400 And so that's what happened to him.

01:38:25.760 Because he abused Test.

01:38:28.340 Yeah, I mean...

01:38:28.820 Don't do that.

01:38:29.660 Same thing happened to...

01:38:31.860 Oh, you might know.

01:38:33.060 There was that metalcore band whose roided-out singer tried to hire a hitman to murder his

01:38:37.700 wife.

01:38:38.860 Oh yeah.

01:38:39.440 And it turned out the guy he was put in touch with was an undercover cop.

01:38:43.160 So he just got arrested and went to prison.

01:38:45.440 So he was on loads of roids and had massive roid rage.

01:38:48.460 It's one of the reasons that, you know, he's having a messy breakup with his wife anyway.

01:38:52.420 He wanted the kids.

01:38:53.440 So he just thought, oh, I'm so roided-out and angry, I'm going to get someone to kill

01:38:56.720 her.

01:38:57.440 He gets arrested, convicted, goes to prison for it, doesn't have access to any steroids.

01:39:02.000 And then, like a year later, all you see in the news of metal reporting is like...

01:39:06.900 Tim Lambasis was the name of the singer.

01:39:09.300 I forget the name of the band that he was in.

01:39:11.220 But it's like, Tim has started to grow man tits.

01:39:14.360 Plus, because his body is not producing testosterone anymore, and his body is overcompensated with

01:39:20.300 estrogen, which meant they gave him gyno.

01:39:23.320 As a...

01:39:23.920 As a...

01:39:24.540 As a lay dying.

01:39:25.180 As a lay dying.

01:39:25.800 That's it.

01:39:26.660 Yeah.

01:39:26.920 There's certain things I just would never, ever mess with.

01:39:30.240 Like, I consider, like, fucking around with your hormones is the same as fucking around

01:39:35.420 with, like, strong opiates or something.

01:39:38.200 It's just not in a million years.

01:39:39.680 I'd rather do opiates than take testosterone.

01:39:42.360 You've got to be out of your mind to...

01:39:44.480 Yeah.

01:39:44.800 In my opinion.

01:39:45.880 Like, whatever.

01:39:46.740 At least...

01:39:47.300 It can't be worth it.

01:39:48.460 It can't be.

01:39:49.380 At least when you stop taking opiates, you get stronger and start to look better.

01:39:53.860 If you stop to...

01:39:54.680 That's one of the psychological problems.

01:39:56.860 If you stop taking testosterone, your body's got so...

01:39:59.960 You've got so used to seeing yourself as a huge, incredibly strong guy in the mirror.

01:40:03.340 Like, your muscles deflate within a month and you go to being half as strong as you were.

01:40:08.500 That's just incentive for loads of people to get straight back on it.

01:40:11.360 Yeah.

01:40:12.080 Yeah.

01:40:12.560 But anyway, we'll go through the rumble rants and then do some of the video comments and

01:40:16.020 then some written ones.

01:40:16.960 We are running over, but we've got no reason not to.

01:40:20.460 We've got...

01:40:20.720 Money's worth out there.

01:40:21.640 Yeah.

01:40:21.760 We've got Josh here right now, so we might as well keep him around as long as possible.

01:40:25.380 The dream team.

01:40:26.200 Yeah.

01:40:26.720 Yeah.

01:40:27.040 That's a random name.

01:40:28.600 We are the classics at this point, to be fair.

01:40:30.700 Other than Carl, we're like the old troons.

01:40:33.300 The longest serving...

01:40:34.380 The what?

01:40:35.020 The old troons.

01:40:36.120 Troons?

01:40:36.880 Yeah, that's...

01:40:37.840 Have you not encountered that term online?

01:40:40.840 It means transsexual.

01:40:42.700 Yeah, you are a bit of an old troon, yeah.

01:40:45.660 Came out of nowhere.

01:40:46.980 Anyway, that's a random name.

01:40:48.500 You trying to say...

01:40:49.500 The old them Obama phones didn't help the urban youth.

01:40:54.080 She starts twerking.

01:40:56.780 Very fascinating.

01:40:57.760 Gave it something for that dollar, didn't you?

01:40:59.260 Yeah.

01:40:59.920 Base tape.

01:41:00.840 Newsflash, you can't untard a moron with money.

01:41:03.180 No kidding.

01:41:03.780 Didn't we already run this experiment with the Kardashians?

01:41:06.460 Excellent point.

01:41:07.360 They were a fantastic control group.

01:41:09.820 That's a random name.

01:41:11.000 Totally unrelated, but at some point in the coming months, I might have a playable build

01:41:14.520 of my game.

01:41:15.640 How would I be able to send you all some Steam keys?

01:41:18.180 Yes, that includes you too, Josh.

01:41:20.220 I suppose if you contact a Lotus Eaters for the website, once it's ready, you can send

01:41:25.320 them to us that way.

01:41:27.160 Thank you.

01:41:27.840 Yeah, cheers.

01:41:28.860 Dragon Lady Chris, we weren't rich, but my mum started taking me to the library when I

01:41:32.780 was five.

01:41:33.320 These days, the only reason I have only about 400 books is I don't have room for more.

01:41:38.620 Very, very based.

01:41:40.000 I can certainly...

01:41:41.580 One thing similar to what you spoke about that I really like at the moment that I find

01:41:46.900 really promising is that my daughter, who's still only a little toddler, sees me and

01:41:51.960 my missus around the house reading constantly.

01:41:54.400 We don't really watch TV in our house anymore since we had her.

01:41:58.440 And because she sees us reading constantly, she just goes around and picks up little books

01:42:02.900 and pretends that she can read them.

01:42:05.400 Because she can't read yet, but she'll open them up and she'll look at the pictures and

01:42:08.860 she'll go like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, to herself.

01:42:11.000 And one, it's really cute, but two, it's also really good to see the children mimic the

01:42:15.260 parents.

01:42:16.400 See that in mimicking us, she's already starting to develop some really positive habits like

01:42:21.260 that.

01:42:21.740 So as soon as she's able to read properly, then we'll get started on the little kiddies

01:42:26.860 books.

01:42:27.400 In a similar vein, when I have kids, I'm going to take them out when I'm heckling the homeless

01:42:31.540 and I hope that they follow in my footstep.

01:42:33.740 I've seen him do it.

01:42:35.800 The way it worked in my household is make sure you can, the kid can read, got a level of

01:42:41.540 reading ability.

01:42:42.540 I was actually, when I was at the older end of primary school, I was actually a year or

01:42:47.280 two behind my reading age.

01:42:49.580 But by the time you're 12, 13, 14, are you old enough to engage with an adult novel?

01:42:55.480 At that point, make your kid a reader.

01:43:03.780 It's a good habit.

01:43:04.860 By the time I was 13 or 14, or certainly by the time I was 15, my mum was like, I sort

01:43:09.520 of insist you read To Kill a Mockingbird, Catching the Rire, Catch-22, you know, some classics,

01:43:14.940 a bit of Steinbeck, that you're just about old enough to get it, what's actually being

01:43:19.760 said.

01:43:21.040 And then once you...

01:43:22.380 You learn some new words in those books.

01:43:23.840 Once you get, like, the thread of the, it's not crazy to sit down and spend most of an

01:43:30.460 evening reading.

01:43:31.620 It's quite lovely and relaxing, actually.

01:43:33.200 Yeah, once you've got that, that will stay with you for all of your life, almost certainly,

01:43:39.700 and make you a much, much, much, much richer person.

01:43:42.340 And it's got nothing to do with money, other than a little bit of money to buy some books,

01:43:46.500 but again, they're cheap in the end, ultimately, second-hand books, anyway.

01:43:51.600 Okay, Glee777, they fed them chocolate coins instead, Beau.

01:43:56.600 Oh, right.

01:43:57.060 Now, we mean the actual gold coins, doubloons, even.

01:44:00.420 Feed them them.

01:44:01.260 You need to ingest 24-karat gold.

01:44:04.520 I identify as an illiterate child, now give me doubloons.

01:44:09.020 Logan Pine, I have a hormone imbalance that makes me always hungry, I have to take pills

01:44:13.440 to feel human.

01:44:14.920 That sounds horrible.

01:44:15.760 Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that, man.

01:44:16.600 Yeah, sorry about that.

01:44:18.440 Babopin2 says, with Clinton, don't forget it started as RNC Op Research.

01:44:23.300 The server was shared with the foundation, and she helped fund Russia's Silicon Valley,

01:44:27.880 i.e. why Russia can build drones.

01:44:30.280 Her brother got a job.

01:44:31.520 Interesting stuff.

01:44:32.780 That's a random name.

01:44:33.720 The worst for me are all those female coaches at the gym I go to, all on roids with weird

01:44:38.080 voices because of all the excess test, gnarly stuff.

01:44:41.140 Yeah, I go to my local bodybuilding gym, and there is one or two female coaches like that,

01:44:46.380 and it is really, it's so over-masculinized.

01:44:49.840 It's unnatural for women to look and sound that way.

01:44:53.940 Babopin2 again.

01:44:55.160 And, oh, also, Peter Weiner, her assistant's hubby, had copies of the lost emails.

01:45:02.060 Hmm.

01:45:02.840 All right.

01:45:03.440 Let's do the video comments.

01:45:05.080 Let's do the video comments.

01:45:10.260 Nothing beats an illegal working holiday.

01:45:13.440 We pick you up in the channel and take you right to your four-star hotel, where you can

01:45:17.860 work illegally, claim benefits, and never be deported.

01:45:21.200 Watch how the British struggle, paying the highest taxes, since the 1940s.

01:45:27.400 Yeah.

01:45:28.260 Beautiful.

01:45:31.380 For anyone wanting absolute proof of the fallacy of the statement, diversity is our strength,

01:45:44.260 I point you to this video by Henry Stewart History.

01:45:46.680 Recently, I decided to revisit stories and history of the breakdown of Europe leading

01:45:50.900 to the First World War.

01:45:52.480 The Austro-Hungarian army performed so badly in the field precisely because of the empire's

01:45:56.900 forced diversity.

01:45:58.360 However, rather than ethnicity or nationalism causing the collapse of the empire, such diversity

01:46:02.960 encouraged central government control of the economy, which precipitated the end.

01:46:07.100 Modern leaders, it seems, resolutely refused to learn from history.

01:46:10.040 Yeah, and the important part there as well, it was like an ethnic diversity of European

01:46:15.920 peoples.

01:46:17.200 So people who were closer to each other than the diversity that we get these days as well

01:46:22.400 still collapsed the empire.

01:46:24.040 There's loads of writings and memoirs that you can read from people from around the time

01:46:28.420 of this collapse who were just like, yeah, this place is, this isn't going to last much

01:46:33.540 longer.

01:46:33.860 Yeah, yeah, the haps, but yeah, the end of the Austro-Hungarian empire was long overdue

01:46:40.420 really.

01:46:42.000 I just finished recently reading a book called Attrition, all about World War I, and also

01:46:49.200 last weekend I re-watched nearly all of Fall of Eagles and 1970s dramatisation, where Patrick

01:46:58.100 Stewart plays Lenin actually.

01:46:59.900 Oh, it's that one.

01:47:00.800 Yeah, yeah, and there's a couple of episodes in that which look at the Austro-Hungarian

01:47:04.280 empire, and yeah, it was, yeah, it's diversity absolutely hard-baked into it, it's implosion,

01:47:11.800 100%.

01:47:12.360 As someone who graduated with an art degree over a decade ago, I can tell you art academia

01:47:20.280 view anything with morality, virtue, or ability with disdain.

01:47:25.020 For the postmodern artist, their primary goal is to send an edgy message rather than demonstrate

01:47:29.700 technical or philosophical competence.

01:47:32.300 As you can imagine, all the art profs hated me, except for one guy who used to film commercials.

01:47:38.400 Those without ability resent those who have ability.

01:47:41.520 Quite often, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:46.040 See, there can be good postmodern art, it's just that most of it is worthless shit.

01:47:55.880 Some of my favourite filmmakers, like Kubrick, could be argued to be postmodern in many of

01:48:01.940 his films and the structure of them.

01:48:03.360 But it's great.

01:48:03.920 Tarantino is a great example of a postmodern director, right?

01:48:08.600 Yeah, Tarantino makes good films, but most of it's awful.

01:48:13.740 Most of it is not anything that you want to watch.

01:48:16.220 People can go back on the website and find old contemplations or two with me and Josh talking

01:48:22.100 about art and modern art.

01:48:24.860 That's true, yeah.

01:48:25.520 Postmodern art, where we dunk quite heavily on it, don't we?

01:48:29.280 Well, I deliberately brought up some rubbish art so you could get annoyed at it for the

01:48:36.820 audience's amusement.

01:48:38.100 I think Picasso's abstract stuff and Rothko's abstract stuff, it's a practical joke on the

01:48:44.520 person that takes it seriously, is what it is.

01:48:47.880 It's not good art, it's just not.

01:48:50.920 I'm quite a fan of some post-rock and post-metal stuff, like Josh, have you ever heard Neurosis?

01:48:56.400 I haven't, no.

01:48:57.200 They're singer-guests a lot on Mastodon albums, but they've got some really good stuff, but

01:49:02.940 the whole point of the post-label is that it's like a 12-minute long metal song with

01:49:08.860 one riff that just goes on for the 12 minutes.

01:49:12.580 Same as post-rock as well, isn't it?

01:49:15.600 It's like the opposite of prog rock.

01:49:20.400 It's the same thing spread out for a long time rather than lots of different things crammed

01:49:25.040 in together.

01:49:25.540 I personally don't like either that much.

01:49:28.620 I love it, because after a certain point it becomes almost meditative and hypnotic, especially

01:49:35.360 because Neurosis used lots of very interesting drum patterns.

01:49:38.980 If it's quite psychedelic-y and sort of slow-paced, then it does have that meditative quality, and

01:49:44.460 I quite like it actually.

01:49:46.760 Anyway, let's read through a couple of the website comments and then bring it to a close.

01:49:52.080 And I tell you what, we've given you such good value for all the money that you didn't

01:49:55.660 spend watching this one.

01:49:56.760 We're already 20 minutes over when we normally end.

01:49:58.720 You better bloody buy Islander for this.

01:50:01.420 All right?

01:50:02.240 All right?

01:50:02.520 Well, next time, we're cutting it short at two hours.

01:50:05.820 Sorry, at two o'clock.

01:50:06.740 Just do it.

01:50:08.520 Just buy it.

01:50:10.700 Just buy it.

01:50:12.860 He's gone from the sex appeal to just pleading at this point.

01:50:17.260 I was going to get aggressive, but it's just pleading.

01:50:19.560 Just pleading.

01:50:23.040 Look, you're upsetting Bo, all right?

01:50:25.740 Do it for Rory, if nothing else.

01:50:27.460 Yeah.

01:50:27.720 Do you want to read through some of the comments?

01:50:28.960 Oh, yeah.

01:50:29.880 What's wrong with my screen here?

01:50:31.220 I can move it through.

01:50:33.400 Up in the way.

01:50:33.780 Here we go.

01:50:36.440 There you go.

01:50:38.160 Okay.

01:50:39.000 Someone online says,

01:50:40.620 something that's always bothered me is how apparently Nixon is some kind of giant criminal

01:50:46.360 for spying on his competitors.

01:50:48.260 But when Obama and Clinton do the same thing, more egregiously, it's a nothing burger.

01:50:53.720 Yeah.

01:50:54.400 Yeah.

01:50:55.600 No, absolutely.

01:50:56.120 They carry on to say Nixon's actual giant criminal act is allowing trade with China.

01:51:01.040 Gold standard?

01:51:01.580 Yeah, I was going to say gold standard too, arguably.

01:51:04.720 Nixon didn't start the taping thing that had been done by previous presidents.

01:51:10.540 Of course it had.

01:51:12.080 No other president has done the plumber thing.

01:51:17.020 But anyway, let's see.

01:51:18.940 What else here?

01:51:19.740 Roman Observer says,

01:51:20.920 the left have no care about ruining their own country's reputation to get a win.

01:51:24.460 Yeah, but then they would be happy if countries didn't exist at all.

01:51:27.940 Yeah.

01:51:28.660 Two good points.

01:51:30.260 One last one here.

01:51:31.840 Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex, cool name, says,

01:51:34.980 if Hillary is found guilty, the punishment should be jail time.

01:51:38.820 Hillary should be forced to issue a formal apology to Putin.

01:51:41.520 That would destroy her more than any jail sentence could.

01:51:44.400 Yeah, that would be funny.

01:51:45.540 That would be great.

01:51:46.400 That would be funny.

01:51:47.120 I would love to see her go to jail.

01:51:50.380 Me too.

01:51:51.000 I'd pop a bottle of champagne.

01:51:52.640 It's right up there with when Carmelo Anthony gets shanked in prison by the neo-Nazis.

01:52:03.300 It will probably happen.

01:52:05.100 It probably will.

01:52:05.980 You've got a bottle of mum on ice waiting for that one.

01:52:10.340 It's dark, isn't it?

01:52:11.200 I'm not being serious.

01:52:14.920 Do you want to go through yours, Josh?

01:52:15.840 Sorry, I thought you were carrying on.

01:52:17.700 Furious Dan says,

01:52:19.080 first ninja swords, now ninja sickles.

01:52:21.400 The British oppression of shinobi must end here.

01:52:24.600 Terrible.

01:52:24.960 Very good.

01:52:25.460 Terrible.

01:52:27.080 Tom Harris says,

01:52:28.000 gardening, how dare you attempt to create something?

01:52:30.040 We don't do that in this country anymore.

01:52:32.160 Good point.

01:52:32.980 The thing is, there's loads of things like a chisel or a screwdriver.

01:52:36.200 Pretty dangerous weapon if you want it.

01:52:38.280 Yeah, a hammer.

01:52:39.580 A hammer.

01:52:40.480 You could do a decent bit of damage with a sickle if you wanted to, but that's not the point.

01:52:45.500 It's a gardening tool.

01:52:46.580 Yeah.

01:52:47.020 Unless you just want to ban DIY.

01:52:49.400 Or a carving knife.

01:52:50.820 A bread knife.

01:52:52.040 Yeah, it could be a pretty bad weapon, yeah.

01:52:53.740 But what are you going to do?

01:52:55.600 Anyway, you get it.

01:52:57.520 I'm a strand of wheat.

01:52:58.420 I'm going to be quaking in my boots at a sickle.

01:53:02.480 So Nick Taylor says,

01:53:03.660 devil's advocate, but I hope the cops take down a guy in white pyjamas shouting,

01:53:07.060 Allah Akbar with a sickle.

01:53:08.840 That's true.

01:53:10.300 I don't think he's there to wish people well.

01:53:13.280 Finally, Alpha of the Beta says,

01:53:15.240 was the Christian preacher arrested for bleeding on the pavement without a license?

01:53:20.160 It wouldn't surprise me if it gets to that point.

01:53:23.460 Probably.

01:53:24.400 Okay.

01:53:24.780 Kevin Fox.

01:53:25.660 In the military, when you're doing your chef exam, you were given a budget for a mess dinner.

01:53:32.560 My mate did the test exactly on budget and scored lower than the guy who exceeded the budget by 20%

01:53:38.140 because it meant the next budget for a mess dinner would be 20% bigger.

01:53:42.240 I suspect the person who came up with the idea may have been the parent of Rachel from Accounts.

01:53:47.600 Yeah.

01:53:48.060 Classic example there of what we're talking about.

01:53:50.060 That's terrible.

01:53:51.460 Arizona desert rat.

01:53:52.640 As a speech language therapist,

01:53:54.020 the biggest influence I've seen in children's language development is parent involvement and expectations.

01:53:58.900 Was somebody knocking at the door then?

01:54:01.740 I don't think so.

01:54:02.660 I don't know if our mics picked that up,

01:54:03.980 but it sounded to me like someone upstairs.

01:54:08.120 Yeah.

01:54:08.680 Jack, go sort them out.

01:54:10.580 A guy from Hungary.

01:54:11.720 I learned the hard way books bought at car boot sales sometimes contain bed bugs.

01:54:16.980 Always check the spine.

01:54:18.460 I recommend libraries.

01:54:20.060 Libraries are great.

01:54:21.240 Thomas Vanio.

01:54:22.000 Harry, the more money, no brain study is actually brilliant because now you can use it to argue for less benefits and hence lower taxes.

01:54:28.640 I wish that would be the case, but you can already see from the article that people are going,

01:54:32.100 well, we just need more money then.

01:54:34.200 And Kevin Fox again.

01:54:35.780 If the rule is more money, more brain, please explain.

01:54:38.480 And he lists James O'Brien, Rachel from Accounts, Hillary Clinton, Kentan G. Brown.

01:54:43.920 The list goes on.

01:54:45.300 And with that, I think we've given you more than your money's worth, more, Josh, than you could handle for the rest of the month, frankly.

01:54:52.920 Too much, but I'll be back next week again.

01:54:55.200 I'm doing this weekly now, so.

01:54:57.000 Yeah, and don't expect this to be a common thing.

01:54:59.420 We just felt like going over today because we enjoy each other's company so much.

01:55:05.140 And we enjoy your company, dear viewer, which is why you should buy a copy of Islander to pay us back for our own gratis.

01:55:11.300 I missed you so much.

01:55:12.220 I've been coming back every week.

01:55:13.900 Yes.

01:55:15.040 And we're going to go sort whoever they are out.

01:55:18.080 Thanks very much for watching.

01:55:19.260 We'll see you again tomorrow.

01:55:20.140 Bye-bye.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - August 07, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1225

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