The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1227

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1227 for Monday the 11th of

00:00:10.300 August 2025. I'm your host Luca, bookended today by the beards, Beau and Louis.

00:00:17.400 Brightpool.

00:00:19.380 Just complimenting one another's beard game before we came on, I felt very insecure I

00:00:24.160 have to say. But nonetheless, we're all going to be talking today about the hotel protests seem to

00:00:31.760 just grow bigger and bigger every single week and it's very, very encouraging. We're then going to

00:00:37.520 talk about Labour's most recent scrap of red meat that's definitely going to calm everything right 1.00

00:00:44.460 down. And then we're going to go through the NGOs who are steering UK's immigration policy. We're

00:00:52.320 going to name them aren't we? We are going to name them. And infinitely shame them. All right. So with

00:00:58.460 that all said, let's begin the first segment. So as you all know, starting several weeks ago now,

00:01:04.260 things really heated up when that horrendous story came out about the alleged sexual assaults that

00:01:10.620 were happening in Epping, of course. And ever since then, the people of Epping came out very,

00:01:16.780 very well as a community, totally organically, grassroots, and just through their exemplary

00:01:23.800 display, you know, have, I think, really inspired a lot of people around the country. Because of

00:01:31.380 course, there's really no place in the country now that isn't touched by the problem of these

00:01:37.940 illegal hotels. They're everywhere. I mean, you know, obviously, there's the large, as you always say,

00:01:42.780 the larger problem of legal mass immigration. But it's these particular unknowns and people who

00:01:50.320 just seem to be obviously criminal. Well, they are criminal because they're in illegally, right?

00:01:55.800 But just every single day, there's a story about them doing something, some girl being put in harm's

00:02:02.380 way. And on and on it goes. So the protests are growing. And the you know that things are getting

00:02:09.100 all quite hot under the collar, when the Guardian starts to worry. But before we talk about the

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00:03:20.820 So get it now. Anyway, let's talk about a far more disreputable outfit compared to

00:03:27.480 of course, which is the Guardian. And the Guardian are a little bit worried because you

00:03:32.180 could see in anxious of what was going to happen this weekend. Police in England brace

00:03:38.320 for disorder as far right that promotes the anti-migrant protests. Same old, same old.

00:03:44.360 They never change, do they? They go on to say that police are braced for potential disorder

00:03:48.740 in towns across England this weekend amid the far right's promotion of a range of protests

00:03:54.780 against asylum seekers with anti-racist, well, rape, pro-rape activists is really what they

00:04:01.840 are, planning counter-protests. Restrictions will be in place on Friday at locations including

00:04:08.400 Norwich, while officers will police at least 12 other towns and cities that evening. There

00:04:16.460 is particular concerns around a planned protest on Saturday at council offices in Nuneaton where

00:04:25.100 Warwickshire police have dismissed claims by a Reform UK council leader that the force held

00:04:30.200 back information over the alleged rape of a 12-year-old girl. Right? So again, stories like this

00:04:38.280 all over the country. The chair of the National Police Chiefs Council Operations Coordination Committee,

00:04:46.920 Chief Constable BJ Harrington said, we urge communities to carefully consider the information they read,

00:04:54.840 share and trust from online sources. It is essential to remain aware of the potential motivation behind such content.

00:05:04.120 I would consider it to be really, really angry about all the rape, actually, Mr Harrington. I think that's where most of the concern comes from.

00:05:12.760 It's interesting that we do live in a world now, don't we, where wherever you should have always been the case, but it didn't used to be particularly. But yeah, you have to look at the source. I mean, being a history nerd, I've been sort of trained to do that since A-level, undergrad days anyway. Look at who's saying the thing and who they are, and then look at the thing, or in tandem at least. So yeah, always do that. Yeah.

00:05:39.760 Right. Yeah, always. Sure. Fine. But even if...

00:05:43.600 They're sort of saying for the mainstream media, or if it's The Guardian, don't do that on...

00:05:47.640 Oh yeah, never do that. Never do that. Because they're never wrong.

00:05:50.900 If you're not getting your information direct from Mariana Spring, then you're not, you've got the wrong information.

00:05:57.400 Please tune in to BBC Verify every single day for your latest updates.

00:06:02.100 The ultimate arbiter of truth, Mariana Spring.

00:06:05.440 Who lied in her first story.

00:06:07.720 Yeah.

00:06:08.560 And everyone after that, I'm sure, as well.

00:06:11.580 But as we've pointed out, as Josh compiles here, just taking a story from consecutive days,

00:06:18.900 every single day for the past week.

00:06:21.360 And there is a story of sexual assault, or far worse, behind each and every one of them.

00:06:28.900 Because we are swamped now with all of these illegal hotels.

00:06:32.600 And frankly, in many, many cases, they are positioned in places that put children at risk.

00:06:41.160 Such as the one in Epping, of course, with the school just being around the corner.

00:06:45.160 And so, the protests are growing.

00:06:49.120 And you can see this graphic here, where they talk about abolishing the asylum system.

00:06:54.660 And I'm particularly pleased with this.

00:06:56.580 No masks, no alcohol, pure patriotism.

00:07:00.220 Right?

00:07:00.720 Just be responsible.

00:07:02.700 We're winning.

00:07:03.880 Just keep going.

00:07:05.220 That's a very good slogan, actually.

00:07:06.640 That's right on the money.

00:07:08.640 No masks, no alcohol, pure patriotism.

00:07:10.960 Yeah.

00:07:11.240 Yeah.

00:07:11.860 Reasonable.

00:07:12.900 Yeah.

00:07:13.280 Anyway, and the anti-racist protesters took the no masks part personally.

00:07:17.420 Because that seems to be the only way that they ever turn up.

00:07:20.300 Just in their masks.

00:07:22.680 But yeah, and as you can see here on the right as well, we have a number of different protests

00:07:28.360 that are happening over the weekend.

00:07:31.220 Now, I checked out the Wolverhampton one.

00:07:34.260 And that didn't actually seem to have really materialized into anything.

00:07:38.040 However, for the other parts, there is a lot going on here.

00:07:42.760 Of course, the Epping protest continues.

00:07:46.320 And the Epping council wrote a letter to Yvette Cooper saying,

00:07:52.560 We support the Home Office's wider objective of reducing reliance on the hotels, and they're

00:07:57.980 keen to work with you.

00:07:59.340 However, we urge you to accelerate this process and to make the Bell Hotel in Epping a priority

00:08:07.900 for urgent closure.

00:08:09.040 It's vital that this location is reconsidered, considering the operational realities on the ground.

00:08:15.460 We urge that the Bell Hotel be made a priority for urgent decommissioning.

00:08:20.540 The public trust, our community's cohesion, and the operational integrity of Essex Police depend on it.

00:08:27.280 Oh, that's quite an admission.

00:08:30.020 It is.

00:08:30.360 It is quite.

00:08:30.680 It is quite an admission.

00:08:31.320 The integrity of them.

00:08:32.860 Oh, so they're worried about that.

00:08:34.700 It could just fall apart like tissue paper.

00:08:36.840 Oh, we've got nothing.

00:08:38.740 Vos integrity.

00:08:39.500 The thing is, to add quickly, there is obviously a big concern with the people protesting as

00:08:46.500 well, that once a hotel like this gets decommissioned, like you mentioned, where are the illegals going

00:08:53.680 to go?

00:08:54.600 And they don't disappear, do they?

00:08:56.080 They don't just, yeah, they go, they'll just be bussed to another location.

00:09:00.920 And I think that a lot of the protesters, from what I've seen in some clips, have been

00:09:05.080 saying, well, this is not what we want as well.

00:09:07.920 We don't just want, it's not just about this hotel, it's about the wider, broader scope.

00:09:12.840 So I think that's important as well to mention.

00:09:15.600 Well, exactly.

00:09:16.480 In a way, it's even more, I don't know, like pernicious or something to take a big group

00:09:24.080 of like 30 or 100 or 200 of these illegal boat invaders, and they're all in one place, 0.62

00:09:31.200 like Epping or something.

00:09:32.760 And then there's a public outrage.

00:09:34.780 So yeah, they just smear it across loads and loads of smaller villages somewhere else.

00:09:40.600 That's no good.

00:09:42.600 No, not at all.

00:09:43.300 That's almost worse.

00:09:45.020 And you see this with that groundbreaking deal that Starmer made with Macron.

00:09:52.240 It's clear that as far as the actual government are concerned, their problem isn't with the

00:09:57.680 people coming here.

00:09:58.880 It's just with the fact that it's the illegality of the thing.

00:10:02.480 If they all came by safe and legal routes, then we would happily, no, we want them gone.

00:10:07.880 We don't want them here.

00:10:09.460 That's what it comes down to.

00:10:11.340 Don't trust them.

00:10:12.200 And they don't belong here, right?

00:10:14.080 Well, we quite often here at Lotus Eaters are at pains to say, you know, we're perfectly

00:10:19.780 aware that it's not just the illegals.

00:10:21.720 It's not just the boat people.

00:10:23.040 It's legal immigration.

00:10:24.220 Because as you say, if a lot of these people had their way, people like Corbyn or whoever

00:10:28.480 or secure, they would just have safe and legal routes.

00:10:33.700 So, but we would still have the exact same issue.

00:10:35.800 You're still importing sex criminals into our country. 1.00

00:10:41.620 So, yeah, that's not good enough. 0.85

00:10:43.640 It's still not good enough.

00:10:44.860 No, not at all.

00:10:45.740 Not at all.

00:10:46.240 And so, as you can see here, we've got a protest still carrying on in Epping.

00:10:52.740 All very wholesome.

00:10:54.200 All very wholesome.

00:10:55.760 And, but now it's spreading as well.

00:10:57.520 So now we've got protests happening in Norwich, right, as well. 0.97

00:11:01.460 And it's going to, you see there, only 15 stand up to racism clowns. 0.95

00:11:06.140 So, but that's the point. 0.97

00:11:07.480 They are always there, right?

00:11:10.780 Even if it's just 15 of them, every town, there's some of them there, same placards.

00:11:17.380 It's like, well, they all came to different towns, but they haven't brought their own homemade placards.

00:11:22.620 Now, they've all got the uniform placards from the NGOs, the charities, funding them,

00:11:29.000 which I'm sure we'll come into later.

00:11:31.440 But, yeah, it's really, really suspicious.

00:11:33.840 But if you just look at the, sorry, it's supposed to be about there.

00:11:39.460 And the turnout is really impressive, where, if the camera will pan away, there we go.

00:11:51.040 And these will all just be on, I would have thought largely, just genuine local people.

00:11:56.240 Yes.

00:11:56.620 Local people.

00:11:57.660 Local people from Norwich.

00:11:59.580 Yes.

00:11:59.900 North Norfolk.

00:12:01.260 Right.

00:12:02.100 Really, really impressive.

00:12:03.300 And bear in mind as well that Norwich, as things stand currently, don't get me wrong, it's not been entirely shielded,

00:12:12.060 but it's still a very British part of the country, right?

00:12:14.880 It's not quite Cornwall and Devon or Cumbria, but it's still pretty British, right?

00:12:20.040 And so they'll feel it really acutely as well.

00:12:23.540 East Anglia is one of the, I would say, one of the heartlands among, yeah, for sure.

00:12:28.480 Yeah, I'm just saying it's not had those huge waves of mass immigration yet, like the North, like London.

00:12:34.580 It's still...

00:12:36.340 Anyway, so, but then we get to what happened at Nuneaton.

00:12:40.440 And I'm going to play this with volume, because it's a remarkable exchange.

00:12:46.300 Hello.

00:13:08.040 Hello, mate, are you all right?

00:13:09.180 Yeah, what's up?

00:13:12.020 Absolutely nothing, so don't panic.

00:13:13.600 It's just a very quick one.

00:13:15.300 I appreciate you're at work, but Warwickshire have asked me to come round and just face it.

00:13:22.000 It's a load of ice, mate, but it's about this protest tomorrow in Warwickshire.

00:13:25.120 Yeah.

00:13:27.200 And just saying, obviously, that they're aware that you might be wanting to attend that planned protest,

00:13:33.420 and obviously that's absolutely fine.

00:13:34.880 You've got freedom of speech, and that's no issue to talk.

00:13:37.700 And all they've asked me to do, mate, it sounds definite, so I apologise, and it's really woeful.

00:13:42.580 It's not something I agree with, but I've been asked to do it.

00:13:45.580 It's just to drop a leaflet about being involved in a protest.

00:13:49.220 That doesn't sound bad, but it is what it is.

00:13:51.620 Do me a favour.

00:13:52.920 Take it back to them, and write back on it to them, say, we will no longer be silent, 1.00

00:13:59.180 and to fuck themselves. 1.00

00:14:01.140 From me, with love. 1.00

00:14:04.060 Yeah, thanks very much.

00:14:04.960 Fair enough.

00:14:05.580 With love?

00:14:06.060 With love, yeah.

00:14:07.180 The solemn majority of Britain will no longer stay silent.

00:14:11.440 Tell them that.

00:14:12.060 Thank you very much.

00:14:12.960 Have a good day.

00:14:16.100 Simple as.

00:14:16.900 Nice.

00:14:17.380 Do you know, like, I heard about this exchange, and I didn't watch the full video,

00:14:23.280 but I didn't realise that the guy laughed and was like, I'm sorry to have to do this.

00:14:28.360 Like, because clearly it's orders from the ups.

00:14:30.200 Yes.

00:14:30.560 And you can tell this police officer here is just totally embarrassed by the entire situation.

00:14:38.000 I've not seen that clip until just then.

00:14:41.200 But that's great.

00:14:42.260 Yeah, he's, that cop, he's obviously completely embarrassed.

00:14:46.380 And, yeah, took what the guy said, laughed and laughed.

00:14:49.640 It's great.

00:14:50.400 It's great because in history, often the revolutions only really work when the Cossacks, 1.00

00:14:56.580 the police, the soldiers, when they're on board, when they're on side with the protesters,

00:15:02.100 that's when regimes tumble and collapse.

00:15:07.220 So it's very, I mean, this guy, that's just great to see.

00:15:11.620 Yeah.

00:15:11.840 I love that.

00:15:12.400 I love that.

00:15:12.820 Yeah, phenomenal to witness.

00:15:13.920 I mean, fair play to the policeman for treating it like the farce it is.

00:15:18.040 Yeah.

00:15:18.320 He's done this, he's obeyed his orders, but he's also shown that he's just obviously

00:15:23.080 not aligned with the Johnson.

00:15:24.580 I hope he doesn't get in trouble.

00:15:25.680 Oh, no, I hope not.

00:15:26.680 No, I hope not.

00:15:27.480 I hope not too.

00:15:28.240 I was going to say, has there ever been anything like that where the police have actually been

00:15:33.120 given orders to go around someone's house and to drop off a leaflet to say, just so

00:15:38.820 you are, I know you're going to a protest tomorrow to exercise your freedom of speech and expression.

00:15:44.560 Which you totally have the right to do.

00:15:45.620 Well, you have the right to do, but we just want to make you aware, like, don't act a certain

00:15:49.940 way, don't do this, don't do that.

00:15:52.580 I've never heard of a case like that.

00:15:54.620 It's a bit odd, like, the intimidation factor.

00:15:57.900 Yeah, it's like, don't worry, we're watching.

00:15:59.780 Yeah, exactly.

00:16:00.980 Like, we're watching you.

00:16:02.640 Big Brother's watching you.

00:16:03.660 We're aware you might like to attend.

00:16:05.140 Are you?

00:16:05.900 What, so you're watching me then?

00:16:07.300 Mm.

00:16:07.940 Okay.

00:16:08.680 I'll just, actually, I'll just read this rumble rant now because it's entirely relevant

00:16:12.240 from a bone apple tea party who says that copper is now under investigation.

00:16:17.500 Oh, really?

00:16:18.920 Right.

00:16:19.580 If they fire him, let's get him on here.

00:16:21.580 Yeah.

00:16:22.100 Yeah.

00:16:22.920 Great.

00:16:23.560 But, again, it's exactly as you say, Lewis, just the absurdity of making someone go and

00:16:30.580 do that.

00:16:31.520 So, yeah, a fantastic turnout here in Nuneaton.

00:16:35.760 It's just, and it's, again, it's, but it's not just like how many cities and towns it's

00:16:44.220 happening now.

00:16:44.900 It's the size of the crowds it's drawing in.

00:16:47.980 Yeah.

00:16:48.260 It's genuinely impressive.

00:16:49.480 Organic.

00:16:50.040 Genuine, genuine organic protest.

00:16:51.620 And it's continuous.

00:16:52.860 Yeah.

00:16:53.060 It's relentless.

00:16:54.520 It's every single weekend now.

00:16:57.020 We're just really seeing something getting sparked up here.

00:17:02.120 There's no mass printable signs.

00:17:04.960 It's all hand-drawn, you know, flags of our own country and the Union being flown.

00:17:12.280 Like, genuine, I don't know, it's just, it's actually just so nice to see.

00:17:17.720 It is great to see.

00:17:18.700 That's peaceful.

00:17:19.120 And the argument that if you say something that's too based, as an actual political party,

00:17:26.680 let's say, like reform or something, there was an argument that Nigel and Tyson, whoever,

00:17:31.520 they can't say things that are too based because that's electoral poison.

00:17:37.960 And I've been saying for a long time, we get people on Twitter.

00:17:40.720 Oh, right, right.

00:17:41.520 You know, reform, reform loyalists.

00:17:43.060 It's not the Baudet position, I can assure you.

00:17:44.920 And I've argued for a long time, since the beginning, that no, I don't believe that.

00:17:50.700 I think there's millions and millions of people screaming out, crying out for a super-based

00:17:56.320 voice at the ballot box.

00:17:58.500 And I'm sure that's true.

00:18:01.040 I'm sure that's true.

00:18:01.940 If Nigel was as based as Rupert or even more, he wouldn't be at 35%, he'd be at 55%, 65%.

00:18:09.200 It's true.

00:18:10.480 It's true.

00:18:11.200 Well, this is entirely, of course, what are absolutely collapsatories, wasn't it?

00:18:15.920 The fact that they said they would do certain things and then either reneged on them or double

00:18:20.940 down in the total opposite direction and exacerbated all of the problems.

00:18:25.140 So the mandate to address these issues is even greater than what it was 10 years ago now.

00:18:32.800 Even greater.

00:18:33.560 And a greater mandate means that, yeah, you can be more hardline in your rhetoric.

00:18:39.520 Definitely.

00:18:40.660 Because the times are more...

00:18:42.340 Even Labour are becoming hardline in some of their rhetoric.

00:18:46.080 Obviously, it's just talk.

00:18:47.440 I don't see any fulfilment of it.

00:18:50.100 But even they are trying to position themselves to court.

00:18:53.640 It's not going to work.

00:18:55.080 Court reform voters or people of the right.

00:18:58.340 And it's like, yeah, that's not going to work.

00:19:00.480 But well done for destroying yourself.

00:19:02.180 Yeah, and it speaks of that the Overton window.

00:19:05.680 Oh, it does.

00:19:06.500 Has moved or is in transit.

00:19:09.500 I love that one.

00:19:10.240 I like that.

00:19:10.880 In transit.

00:19:11.760 Very good.

00:19:12.360 It's always on the move these days, it seems.

00:19:14.960 Aldershot, great escape theme.

00:19:16.680 Love it.

00:19:24.140 Home of the British Army, isn't it, Aldershot?

00:19:26.340 Is it really?

00:19:27.140 I'm not...

00:19:27.900 Yeah, you might be right though, yeah.

00:19:29.640 Take your word.

00:19:30.300 Alan Miller, friend of the show, was on recently.

00:19:34.000 He was in Bournemouth, covering what was happening down in there.

00:19:37.120 Bournemouth strikes again.

00:19:38.760 So we're here, and there's another hotel just down there.

00:19:42.500 And the third one is a bit further down.

00:19:44.340 I've seen you back three quarters of this event.

00:19:46.220 Obviously, some people are quite annoyed, so they're making their voices heard.

00:19:49.720 Yeah, the reason we're getting annoyed is because...

00:19:51.620 Anyway, in case...

00:19:53.340 Just jumps in there.

00:19:55.820 Cheeky chappy at the back.

00:19:57.200 I'm sure there are perfectly sensible things to say.

00:20:00.480 People are crying out to be heard.

00:20:02.880 Yes.

00:20:03.240 Yeah.

00:20:04.080 Crying out for it.

00:20:05.560 They've been kept in that pressure cooker for years.

00:20:08.520 Yes.

00:20:09.080 Yeah.

00:20:09.280 Years and years, and demonised at the same time.

00:20:12.440 Alan does good work as well.

00:20:13.880 He does.

00:20:14.220 Very good work.

00:20:14.880 Definitely go follow him.

00:20:16.360 But if you think that towards the end of this segment, I'm going to come to you with some

00:20:19.840 sort of response from the government, right?

00:20:23.440 Given that there have been protests in tens of towns and cities across Britain this weekend.

00:20:28.500 No response.

00:20:30.160 No at all.

00:20:30.880 Total radio silence, as far as I could tell.

00:20:34.380 That too is very, very telling, isn't it?

00:20:38.480 It's actually a bit sort of disquieting.

00:20:40.600 They've got nothing.

00:20:41.700 I mean, that's good.

00:20:42.180 It's nice.

00:20:42.680 But really, that's their tactic.

00:20:45.500 They sat around a strategy.

00:20:47.180 There's strategy meetings you can only imagine in number 10 or at checkers or wherever it is.

00:20:51.920 And they're like, our only play here is radio silence.

00:20:56.660 That's so weak.

00:20:57.860 Just ignore it.

00:20:58.700 That's a super weak position.

00:21:01.260 Every time we speak, we become less popular.

00:21:04.580 It's like, well, you could do the opposite thing.

00:21:08.140 You could clear it all up.

00:21:09.400 You could pack them up.

00:21:10.220 You could send them away.

00:21:11.960 You could defuse attention.

00:21:13.660 But they don't even know how to contain the situation for their own sense of self-preservation.

00:21:19.160 Because they don't agree with it.

00:21:20.560 Well.

00:21:21.040 Oh, yeah.

00:21:21.520 Because they don't agree with it.

00:21:22.580 And it's as simple as that.

00:21:24.600 And they don't want to agree with it.

00:21:26.460 And they don't want to.

00:21:27.380 But it's almost like we've all planted the flag in our position on this.

00:21:32.280 All the protesters, everyone, you know, and others.

00:21:35.480 And it's gravitating towards that position.

00:21:39.200 But they are just so prideful and just set in their ways that they will not change.

00:21:46.080 None at the uni party.

00:21:47.200 They might say that they're going to do things, including the Tories, will say, oh, we're against this.

00:21:53.800 I'm sorry.

00:21:54.740 You had 14 years of doing that.

00:21:56.760 And you had the chance.

00:21:57.980 You could have done so much.

00:22:00.220 Rolled back, repealed.

00:22:02.340 The Tony Blair era could have been destroyed.

00:22:05.780 And just rebuilt with something better.

00:22:08.400 But no.

00:22:09.400 But we know why.

00:22:10.240 We know why.

00:22:10.800 We know how they really feel.

00:22:11.980 I mean, if you remember a few years ago, Emily Thornberry.

00:22:14.660 Do you remember that?

00:22:15.000 There was like one white van man who dared have an England flag out.

00:22:20.020 Oh, yeah.

00:22:21.020 She got upset.

00:22:22.360 Yeah.

00:22:22.720 Worst day of her life.

00:22:24.040 And so that is how they really feel.

00:22:27.040 Yeah.

00:22:27.320 People like Lisa Nandy or Sir Queer or whoever it is. 0.90

00:22:30.640 Yeah, they hate the fact that natives turn up with St. George's flags and stand up for themselves and are beginning to voice their displeasure with being raped and replaced. 0.92

00:22:43.740 They can't stand it. 0.96

00:22:45.000 They think they do think we're the evil baddies in this thing.

00:22:48.820 Yeah.

00:22:49.500 And the future belongs to them.

00:22:51.880 Yeah.

00:22:52.200 And no one else.

00:22:54.020 But it doesn't belong there in Blackpool, as you can see.

00:22:56.940 Blackpool, pay no heed to the woke weirdo whose tweet it is, but protests in Blackpool as well.

00:23:04.480 And even the commie capital of Bristol.

00:23:08.320 So you know it's getting heavy when things are happening in Bristol, of all places.

00:23:13.340 But of course, I just want to say as well, when I went to Bristol, it was a few years ago now, but Bristol seemed to me like a really genuinely beautiful city.

00:23:22.720 Right.

00:23:23.140 There is a lot to love about Bristol, and like so many places, just totally being run into the ground and neglected by people who don't realise what a special city they've got there.

00:23:34.520 A lot of history.

00:23:35.620 Yeah.

00:23:35.880 A lot of history.

00:23:36.920 In centuries past, Bristol was absolutely one of the preeminent cities of England, after London, of course.

00:23:43.000 But yeah, for centuries, we think of it as just one other, even a second tier sort of city.

00:23:47.600 Right.

00:23:48.220 It's not on the level of Liverpool or Manchester or something.

00:23:51.360 But no, steeped in history.

00:23:54.020 And yeah, a lovely place.

00:23:55.320 It used to be.

00:23:57.060 Yeah.

00:23:57.680 And as you say, sort of the commie capital, something like, I don't know, Seattle or San Francisco, where it's lefties seem, for whatever reason, gravitate there, think it's theirs.

00:24:07.580 Yes.

00:24:07.960 And stuff.

00:24:08.420 It's like, we'll see about that.

00:24:10.520 Their own chas.

00:24:11.820 Yeah.

00:24:12.280 Yeah.

00:24:12.480 English chas.

00:24:15.240 And the supreme leader of chas in England is, of course, Carla Denya, who I just want to say I think is the worst MP. 1.00

00:24:26.040 Right.

00:24:26.400 There are so many to choose from.

00:24:28.220 Stella Creasy, Jess Phillips.

00:24:30.380 But I just find it, because you know what it is about Carla?

00:24:33.380 It's the fact that a lot of them you think you're just above your pay grade.

00:24:37.760 Right.

00:24:38.000 You'd be better off in a, working as a secondary teacher.

00:24:41.840 Right.

00:24:42.440 No, I wouldn't even trust her in that.

00:24:44.360 I wouldn't trust her to do anything, really.

00:24:48.000 She's like a parody. 1.00

00:24:48.780 She's like a sketch.

00:24:49.860 Yes.

00:24:51.080 She's like someone on our side writing something that's supposed to be ironic.

00:24:56.260 But that's her. 0.92

00:24:57.840 She's who she really is.

00:24:58.800 She's the avatar of everything anti-civilizational that just happens.

00:25:04.400 That's what she is.

00:25:05.080 She's anti-civilizational, everything she advocates for. 0.99

00:25:10.160 A living cliche.

00:25:11.500 Yeah.

00:25:12.320 Is that.

00:25:13.600 As she says, far-right protesters expect to take place outside.

00:25:17.740 Look, Carla, I'll save you some time. 0.88

00:25:20.160 They hate the rape.

00:25:21.560 OK? 0.91

00:25:22.300 That's what all of this is about, right?

00:25:24.600 And you cover it up.

00:25:25.940 You make excuses for it.

00:25:27.380 You obfuscate. 0.93

00:25:28.520 And you're a bad person. 0.98

00:25:30.680 Moving on.

00:25:31.220 As you can see here as well, there's, we remember as well when we had Jack Hadfield in the office the other week.

00:25:39.860 Great lad doing lots of on-the-ground work reporting.

00:25:43.620 And, of course, he spent a lot of time at the Britannia Hotel outside Canary Wharf.

00:25:48.600 Seems the police there were taking a leaf from the Epping playbook of just escorting a load of the anti-racist activists over, preserving their, what was it they said, their right to freedom of assembly.

00:26:08.760 So, freedom of, right to freedom of assembly must include a police escort.

00:26:16.640 Because that's what happens, right?

00:26:17.920 Whenever, like, Tommy has a rally in London, the police go out and give them a nice escort down so they can all assemble in the capital together.

00:26:27.360 Obvious nonsense.

00:26:28.120 Here, now. 0.96

00:26:28.600 Obvious nonsense.

00:26:30.800 And, yeah, as you can see here, you've got locals, well, you know, good patriotic Brits singing Rural Britannia outside the Britannia Hotel.

00:26:40.180 How fitting.

00:26:41.040 How fitting.

00:26:42.320 And so it just, it seems that there's no end in sight.

00:26:45.900 It seems that there's genuine momentum, genuine inspiration in the air to just ordinary people at this point, right?

00:26:55.200 They've really had enough.

00:26:56.120 Don't get me wrong, there's still, it's still not quite radical enough for my taste, you know.

00:27:01.760 You see a few interviews where they say, oh, we don't mind the legal immigration, you know.

00:27:05.740 It's just like they hate, but they hate the procedure of what is the obvious injustice of what's been done with the illegal stuff.

00:27:13.800 And I'm sure on the legal front, you know, the facts will bear themselves out in the future.

00:27:19.960 It's really great how peaceful it's been so far.

00:27:22.280 I mean, there was, on Saturday, as of every Saturday, there was like a pro-Gaza, pro-Palestine march through London.

00:27:29.240 They had like over 500 people arrested on that one day.

00:27:33.900 And we've had all sorts of protests up and down the country.

00:27:37.480 And like, we sent almost none, I believe.

00:27:40.460 Almost none sort of, no unrest.

00:27:41.980 I haven't seen any clips, certainly, of like brawls breaking out and stuff.

00:27:46.220 So, yeah.

00:27:48.040 Yeah, if we can keep this momentum going.

00:27:50.440 Definitely.

00:27:50.980 It's great stuff.

00:27:51.800 Definitely.

00:27:52.640 As you see, and a very symbolic photo here, I think.

00:27:56.720 A gorgeous photograph, in fact, of just England flag, Union flag, and the sunlight just breaking out beneath the tree, you know, from behind the trees.

00:28:05.300 Very, very symbolic.

00:28:06.740 Fantastic photograph.

00:28:07.680 Almost iconic, it could be.

00:28:09.340 Yeah.

00:28:09.660 That type of thing.

00:28:10.420 Yeah.

00:28:10.660 Yeah, great.

00:28:11.680 Stick it in the National Gallery.

00:28:14.640 In the family album.

00:28:15.980 Yeah, it's the one for the album.

00:28:17.800 Anyway, so, good work out there, patriots.

00:28:21.200 Keep going.

00:28:22.800 All right, I'll read through some of the Rumble rants.

00:28:25.800 Chuck us an islander so I can chill it mid-segment in a minute.

00:28:30.880 You work on a, yeah, okay.

00:28:33.160 I, yeah, the cop has been suspended.

00:28:35.900 A lot of people are saying this.

00:28:37.420 That's terrible, terrible news.

00:28:40.040 I suspected it might have been the case after, because that clip had already been, you know, played around quite a lot over the weekend.

00:28:47.940 So, if anything, would have happened.

00:28:49.820 But it's sad to see, especially when he, he did do his job, after all.

00:28:55.600 He did go and try to give the leaflet.

00:28:58.400 Not his fault.

00:28:59.260 The chap at the door didn't want it.

00:29:02.160 Habsification says, Carla looks and sounds like she's perpetually crying. 0.99

00:29:06.540 This is also true.

00:29:08.680 Yeah, okay.

00:29:09.700 Right, thank you.

00:29:10.680 Over to you, Beau.

00:29:12.100 All right, let's just get my document in place.

00:29:16.480 Before I begin, where are we here?

00:29:18.660 Okay.

00:29:20.000 Okay.

00:29:25.140 One sec.

00:29:25.740 Dead air.

00:29:26.840 The worst thing, dead air.

00:29:27.940 Mumble, mumble.

00:29:28.620 Rhubarb, rhubarb.

00:29:29.340 That's that.

00:29:30.660 All right, so it's been in the news cycle a bit recently, or in the last news cycle,

00:29:36.540 that the fresh bit of red meat that Labour are throwing out to try and pretend they're doing something,

00:29:42.880 on the immigration question, of course.

00:29:44.740 The one small element of it to do with our prisons overflowing with thousands and thousands of foreign criminals, 1.00

00:29:54.480 some terrible criminals.

00:29:56.120 Once again, we know that illegal immigration is not the biggest problem.

00:30:00.800 It's legal immigration, and the few thousand foreign nationals in our prisons is actually really the tip of the iceberg.

00:30:10.400 But nonetheless, it is still very important, and it is in the news cycle at the moment.

00:30:15.840 So, yeah, here we can see the BBC, the Home Office and the government say, we're going to deport way more people.

00:30:23.080 They made a new list of countries that they're going to put on it.

00:30:28.640 India is one of them. 0.51

00:30:30.000 So, like, the Indian Times cares about that.

00:30:33.200 Of course they do.

00:30:34.360 I wonder why.

00:30:35.180 But it's in the middle.

00:30:35.840 Sorry, what?

00:30:36.440 I wonder why.

00:30:37.480 Yeah.

00:30:38.060 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:39.300 Because they're tribal.

00:30:40.780 Like, all peoples in the world.

00:30:44.160 Like, all peoples in the world. 0.97

00:30:45.400 You could deport those foreign Indian criminals back to India, and I'm sure no one in India would even notice. 1.00

00:30:51.920 Right, yeah. 0.97

00:30:52.200 No one would notice.

00:30:53.640 It's only a few thousand, yeah.

00:30:54.740 Yeah.

00:30:55.680 Yeah.

00:30:56.900 Most peoples in the world, and for all time, have got an in-group preference.

00:31:02.620 Right?

00:31:03.100 It's not mad to have an in-group preference.

00:31:05.700 For God's sakes.

00:31:07.240 Okay, so there's the Mirror running with it.

00:31:09.480 There's the Guardian running with it, of course.

00:31:12.320 Or is this the Sunday Times?

00:31:15.400 So, yeah, and the government themselves talking about it.

00:31:19.260 So, if I go back to the BBC one, we'll have a quick look at what's actually being said.

00:31:23.040 So, they've said, and I don't believe any of this, that's the angle, that's the take in this piece, if anyone doesn't already know where we're going with this, is that it's just nonsense.

00:31:34.740 It's like the Rwanda thing. 1.00

00:31:35.800 Talk and talk and talk about it.

00:31:37.400 Talk and talk and talk about how we're going to give France XYZ, give them money. 0.86

00:31:41.640 Nothing ever happens.

00:31:42.420 In fact, we're just flooded even more, with more and more people daily, literally daily.

00:31:47.620 Like, over the weekend, like 400 plus people per day coming across the Channel, ferried across by a board of force boats and the RNLI.

00:31:54.420 So, nothing's, nothing's even slowing down, let alone stopping.

00:31:58.060 And yet, out of the Home Office or the Government, Mrs. Ed Ball saying, oh, we're doing stuff though.

00:32:03.520 We're going to do stuff.

00:32:04.760 Look, we've got this list of countries which we will be able to deport foreign criminals straight back to. 1.00

00:32:10.980 It was, they say it's a list of 23 countries and they've added 15, well, now it's 23, but they've added 15 new more countries to it.

00:32:19.140 We're talking Angola, Botswana, Brunei, Bulgaria, Guyana, Indonesia, Kenya, Latvia, Lebanon, Malaysia, Uganda, Zambia.

00:32:28.660 So, yeah, that's sort of what they're saying.

00:32:33.080 I wish, sorry, I was just going to say, I wish that deporting people to Australia was as based as it sounds. 0.90

00:32:40.320 Right, I wish that that was some old imperial tactic.

00:32:44.860 Oh, right.

00:32:45.300 Played over again.

00:32:46.060 Oh, yeah, like the 18th, 19th century deportation.

00:32:49.700 Just send them all to Australia. 1.00

00:32:51.440 You go to Australia and never heard from again.

00:32:53.560 Yeah. 0.93

00:32:54.720 Just a dumping ground for criminals.

00:32:56.800 Says Yvette Cooper.

00:32:58.060 Yeah.

00:32:59.180 Finally getting the finger out.

00:33:00.660 I know Australians, and I can see why, really hate that when we say that or mention that. 1.00

00:33:05.820 Oh, you're all descended from criminals. 0.70

00:33:07.080 Well, not all. 0.97

00:33:09.020 No.

00:33:10.060 But it was a place to deport criminals for quite a long time.

00:33:12.840 Anyway, I've got a strong gene pool.

00:33:17.540 It was for you guys.

00:33:18.260 Strong gene pool.

00:33:19.340 Can't deny that.

00:33:20.860 So, yeah, they're saying things like, we'll be able to deport way more people and much more quickly.

00:33:29.380 And, I mean, yes, there's a few quotes here.

00:33:33.740 But with even this U-turn, only the Conservative Party is committed to deporting all foreign criminals. 1.00

00:33:38.920 We don't believe you either.

00:33:40.900 We don't believe you either.

00:33:41.840 Not sure about that one.

00:33:43.620 Do you know what's funny?

00:33:44.280 I see this as a big win.

00:33:45.960 I think I tweeted about this yesterday.

00:33:48.320 I see this as a massive win.

00:33:50.160 Like you said, I would see it as the last bit of red meat to throw out. 1.00

00:33:55.000 I actually, they understand and they know how deeply unpopular they are, the Labour Party.

00:34:00.040 And so this is their sort of death rattle of throwing out the red meat to try and court as many people and to cling on as many people as possible because they know their party is collapsing. 0.98

00:34:11.000 And I think, I think they're going to collapse earlier than we think, I think, I predict that.

00:34:17.660 I am very optimistic.

00:34:19.120 I've become extremely optimistic rather than blackpilling, no blackpilling.

00:34:23.340 So I actually see this as the death rattle of the Labour Party in itself.

00:34:29.980 So I think, I see this as a big win.

00:34:33.540 I see this as rhetoric is changing.

00:34:36.020 The Overton window is in transit, like you've just said.

00:34:39.200 And they're not going to do it.

00:34:41.820 Don't kid yourselves.

00:34:42.920 They're not going to do it.

00:34:43.700 But the rhetoric is there.

00:34:45.820 And I see that as a positive, personally.

00:34:49.020 It's remarkable, isn't it?

00:34:50.280 How, you remember when, well, it feels like a lifetime ago now, but after Brexit, when the Tories, obviously, you know, it kept them afloat a little bit longer and we got all of the terrible things that that unleashed.

00:35:02.760 But there was, there was talk at the time, like, no one trusts the Labour Party because it was full of Europhiles.

00:35:09.260 And, you know, people who wanted to take us, drag us back into the EU and everything.

00:35:13.860 And there was genuinely talk about, it's going to be generations, you know, before the Labour Party ever get into power again.

00:35:20.460 Well, we all got sick of the Tories and every single betrayal they'd thrust at us quite quickly.

00:35:26.320 And so it's remarkable that in a way, Labour would have been better off if they were no longer out of power now because they could have just continued to wing from the sidelines.

00:35:36.320 But now that they've put themselves so thoroughly into the inherited mess of the Tories and continue to just govern by the exact same playbook, and even worse in some cases with how brazen they've been with all of the abortion stuff and other such things that no one asked for.

00:35:56.420 Lowering the franchise.

00:35:57.520 They're going to get wiped out.

00:35:58.740 We have to remember, though, we have to remember, we cannot extend the olive branch of inheritance because they will use that.

00:36:06.920 They'll say, well, this was inherited to us.

00:36:08.920 No, no, no, absolutely.

00:36:10.360 All this mess was because of the Tories.

00:36:12.640 Well, you could argue that in some of it, but it's exacerbation.

00:36:17.780 You can fix this country, I'm going to say.

00:36:20.480 You can fix it.

00:36:22.120 You can.

00:36:23.080 I agree with one of your points and slightly disagree with the other one.

00:36:27.280 One of them was that this is good.

00:36:29.660 Absolutely agree with you.

00:36:30.820 The fact that they're forced, they're painted into a corner where they have to use this type of rhetoric.

00:36:35.240 Brilliant.

00:36:36.220 Brilliant.

00:36:36.680 They've sort of got nowhere else to go.

00:36:38.680 And I think, I hope, it is their sort of death rattle. 0.71

00:36:42.640 The only bit I disagree with you, and I don't mean to black people. 0.97

00:36:45.100 No, no, no.

00:36:45.500 On Twitter, I'm like the, I'm sort of an arch, no, no, no, no.

00:36:50.800 Like, I'm an arch optimist.

00:36:52.520 Like, no, no doomerism.

00:36:54.360 I've written an article.

00:36:55.380 Yeah.

00:36:55.600 You're not allowed to be a doomer.

00:36:57.000 But what I will say, I just think realistically, is that Starmer is the type of person, the type

00:37:02.100 of politician that will cling on with, by his fingernails.

00:37:05.740 Oh, yeah.

00:37:06.040 Yeah, he's a lawyer.

00:37:07.360 He's the type, I think, I feel like, because obviously I don't know the man, but I do feel

00:37:11.640 like he's the type of politician that will put up with...

00:37:15.500 a sort of crazy amount of civil unrest and just stay in number 10.

00:37:20.740 That sort of, that kind of old school socialist.

00:37:23.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:24.440 Okay.

00:37:24.900 That's what I feel like, where he won't be removed from power.

00:37:29.520 You know, like certain, like maybe, I think of maybe something like a football manager.

00:37:33.300 Yeah.

00:37:33.580 There's a little bit of pressure and they go.

00:37:35.960 Or you remember when there was that Justin Welby, there was a little bit of pressure and

00:37:40.700 he resigned.

00:37:41.560 I feel like Starmer's not that type of man.

00:37:44.060 I wish he was.

00:37:46.040 I think there's a petition at the moment.

00:37:47.840 Yeah.

00:37:48.180 And it's got hundreds of thousands.

00:37:49.720 500.

00:37:50.460 500 or 600,000 already.

00:37:52.460 I feel like Starmer's the type of politician that's like, really?

00:37:55.140 Yeah.

00:37:55.340 Good luck with that.

00:37:56.260 Yeah.

00:37:56.540 Yeah.

00:37:56.840 There's nothing legally forcing me to resign or call an election.

00:38:01.060 So I'm not going to.

00:38:02.180 To add to that, I think, because I agree with that.

00:38:04.720 But I don't think, just, I don't know if I said that if, I don't know if I said that

00:38:10.560 I believe that Keir Starmer will resign himself.

00:38:13.200 I don't think that that will be the case.

00:38:14.800 I think it will be some sort of revolt within the party itself.

00:38:19.180 Oh, right.

00:38:19.600 Okay.

00:38:19.760 That's how I view it.

00:38:20.880 I think, because how many is it?

00:38:22.240 Is it 40 to 60 have to, with the amount they have, they have to sign a no vote of confidence?

00:38:28.780 A vote of no confidence.

00:38:29.500 Yeah.

00:38:29.880 All right.

00:38:30.140 I think that is potential on the horizon, considering how everything's going.

00:38:35.800 You've even got Diane Abbott, you know, people like that, you know, that have been diehard

00:38:40.340 with the party for a long, long time are turning around saying, actually, and not to, you know,

00:38:46.160 string it all on Diane Abbott, you know, of all people, to say that she's going to be

00:38:50.900 the one to hold the anti-Labour revolution within Westminster.

00:38:55.000 I don't obviously think that.

00:38:56.500 I mean, Labour have got so many MPs, it's always the way in a parliament where one party's

00:39:03.000 got such a massive majority, that it's their own backbenchers that become the real oppositions

00:39:08.400 in a sense, in a sense.

00:39:11.260 And Labour massively suffer from that.

00:39:13.560 If you look at Blair in 97, it wasn't the case because he enjoyed such a unity within

00:39:19.500 his party and his leadership was so unquestioned and his charisma and the tide of optimism and

00:39:25.360 all that stuff.

00:39:26.500 So queer doesn't enjoy any of that. 1.00

00:39:29.560 So yeah, it may well come from the Labour Party.

00:39:32.700 That's what I believe.

00:39:33.200 Yeah, I don't, I agree with you, by the way.

00:39:35.720 So we actually agree.

00:39:36.600 I think, I don't think Keir Starmer is going to, he's going to cling on to that part of power.

00:39:42.620 He's an old Trotsky, I believe. 0.83

00:39:44.100 Right, right.

00:39:44.800 So he's obviously going to cling on to that.

00:39:46.720 And he's a lawyer.

00:39:48.580 You know what they're like.

00:39:50.300 So, you know, it's going to be one of those things.

00:39:53.980 He will literally dig his heels in the sand whilst he's dragged away, you know, not physically,

00:40:00.660 obviously, metaphorically.

00:40:02.660 From power.

00:40:03.820 From power, yeah.

00:40:04.980 But that's what Trotsky... 0.82

00:40:05.720 And it will be from Labour, I believe.

00:40:07.260 That's what Trotsky do. 0.91

00:40:08.760 They do.

00:40:09.060 They almost feel like, they almost feel like that's the righteous and correct thing to do.

00:40:16.060 You have to do it till the bitter end.

00:40:18.000 That's what Leon Trotsky would have done.

00:40:19.740 Yeah.

00:40:20.320 So, right, so, okay.

00:40:23.760 Yeah, sorry.

00:40:24.940 So there's other countries where we've been sometimes able to deport people to.

00:40:33.200 Albania, Herzegovina.

00:40:34.580 But the question is, one of the problems is, will they actually go back?

00:40:40.120 So, for example, Pakistan.

00:40:43.500 We've got lots of people we would like to, criminals, actual Pakistani nationals or dual 1.00

00:40:49.740 nationals that have done despicable crimes, sex crimes, the worst sorts of things.

00:40:57.340 And then they're supposed to be deported after they've served their sentence.

00:41:01.520 And Pakistan's just saying, nope, we're not having them. 1.00

00:41:05.660 And so our governments have always been, oh, well, I guess that's the end of the story.

00:41:08.740 They'll have to go back and live on the old street in Leeds or whatever.

00:41:11.200 No sanctions.

00:41:12.020 Near their victims that are still there or whatever.

00:41:15.720 So it's all well and good.

00:41:17.480 Home office, you vet keepers, it's all well and good.

00:41:19.500 Say, oh, we've got a list of countries and we're going to send them back. 0.82

00:41:22.420 But you don't know.

00:41:23.760 But you don't.

00:41:24.240 We don't believe you that you're going to do it.

00:41:26.540 You're not doing that particularly.

00:41:28.520 And they'll talk about things like, oh, the number of deportations has gone up.

00:41:37.300 Yeah, there's a little bit of an uptick from some sort of crazy all-time low.

00:41:41.420 Yeah.

00:41:42.240 And that's like when they say...

00:41:43.080 Because it couldn't go any higher. 0.94

00:41:45.200 It's such a crappy argument.

00:41:47.000 It's like saying, oh, inflation's only at 3%.

00:41:49.560 It was at 7%.

00:41:50.700 So that's good, right?

00:41:51.680 No.

00:41:52.600 No, no, that's still terrible.

00:41:54.080 But it's still not good enough.

00:41:55.000 Oh, look, here's Sir Keir himself.

00:41:58.160 Very strong words.

00:41:59.440 If you come to this country and commit a crime, you don't get to stay here. 0.95

00:42:02.980 Except you will.

00:42:03.600 Except you do. 1.00

00:42:04.260 Because the government's weak as crap. 0.99

00:42:07.120 You will face deportation at the earliest opportunity. 1.00

00:42:09.720 No one believes you.

00:42:11.240 What is that?

00:42:13.320 Really?

00:42:14.560 Might believe someone like Rupert, though.

00:42:17.600 Yeah.

00:42:18.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:18.660 We will send you packing.

00:42:21.680 We will send you packing, says the government.

00:42:26.200 Says, is it Mahmood?

00:42:28.220 What's her name?

00:42:28.920 Yeah, Sabana.

00:42:30.140 Yeah, Mahmood. 0.93

00:42:31.220 Yeah.

00:42:31.500 Sabana Mahmood.

00:42:32.360 Yeah, our justice secretary.

00:42:33.860 Okay, yeah.

00:42:35.520 Yvette Cooper saying we're going to send them packing.

00:42:38.940 It just doesn't.

00:42:39.700 It's just strange.

00:42:41.120 I was going to play that, but there's no point playing that.

00:42:44.320 Yeah.

00:42:45.740 Yeah, there she is. 1.00

00:42:46.460 This woman's in charge of trying to keep her safe. 1.00

00:42:50.560 Really?

00:42:52.300 Yeah.

00:42:54.100 The confidence in the people out there, if you're going to read the room, read the temperature.

00:42:59.760 I mean, we, I'm sure, suffer from being in some sort of bubble because we're right-leaning.

00:43:05.820 But it does seem to be, doesn't it?

00:43:07.660 Because I try my best to avoid that sort of thing.

00:43:11.380 Right?

00:43:12.020 It does seem that the general mood out there.

00:43:14.120 Well, if you just look at how reform, the milk toast containment project that is reform,

00:43:20.940 how well they're doing, just that, the tiniest bit of slightly redder red meat is through the roof. 1.00

00:43:27.420 So the real feeling, I suspect, the real, real feeling in the country is way more than that, way deeper than that.

00:43:37.220 No one believes Sabana Mahmood is going to do the job.

00:43:41.300 Nobody believes Yvette Cooper is going to save us.

00:43:45.800 And what's more, the whole coalition of people that Labour had any chance to keep a hold of are just going to go to Corbyn at the next general election as well.

00:43:57.900 So they can't even just count on the left-wing voters anymore to be like, well, with the most left-wing party you have, oh, aren't times changing?

00:44:05.980 I'm loving the your party thing.

00:44:08.900 Oh, yeah.

00:44:09.380 That it will split the centre-left and the father-left.

00:44:15.840 The Labour vote.

00:44:16.980 They will split the Labour vote.

00:44:18.500 Lovely.

00:44:20.420 Lovely jubbly.

00:44:21.840 That's good.

00:44:22.220 And Naird, you know, he sort of does sort of just about, just sort of make the right noises sometimes that all prisoners from overseas will be sent back.

00:44:34.500 Yeah, thanks.

00:44:35.460 That's the bare minimum.

00:44:36.400 As if that's not the default position, though.

00:44:38.920 Yeah, right.

00:44:39.700 I mean, that is what Yvette Cooper and the Home Office are saying, aren't they, really?

00:44:44.220 That is what Robert Jenrick is saying.

00:44:46.420 That's what, all apart from sort of the Greens and the Lib Dems and Muslim independents or whatever.

00:44:52.340 It's what they're nearly all saying.

00:44:54.500 And you even get sort of the BBC or BBC adjacent type mainstream media organs sort of forced, again, sort of painted into the corner of saying, oh, maybe this is what is required.

00:45:06.380 Maybe they don't just completely demonise.

00:45:08.400 Like the mainstream media isn't demonising Yvette Cooper in the last news cycle for daring to say we're going to increase the list of countries that we deport people to.

00:45:16.100 They're just like, oh, this is, this is happening now.

00:45:19.080 This is what's going on.

00:45:20.280 Yeah.

00:45:20.700 So again, that Overton window sort of always shifting.

00:45:24.660 One of the other, I think, talking points is the idea of, OK, so a foreign national commits a crime and they're convicted, they're caught and convicted of it here. 0.52

00:45:35.000 Should it be the policy then that they're just immediately deported to their country of origin?

00:45:42.880 Because that is sort of what the government is saying.

00:45:44.920 Again, no one believes they'd actually do it.

00:45:46.620 They're not going to actually do it.

00:45:47.580 But that's the policy.

00:45:49.220 They're saying they want to do that.

00:45:50.320 I mean, is that good?

00:45:51.860 There's a few different ways of looking at it because what you could do is you sentence them to their, to their sentence here.

00:45:58.780 They do their time here.

00:46:00.300 Obviously costs us money and fills up our jails.

00:46:02.520 But then at least some justice has been served.

00:46:05.540 Then at the, as soon as they, their sentence is up, they're then deported, taken straight from the jail to the airport or the boat and sent home.

00:46:12.920 OK, so at least some justice has been served, but at our expense.

00:46:18.180 Or you send them directly from being sentenced in court to the airport where they then go to their own country.

00:46:25.420 I mean, I would rather that because I don't, I want them out of the country as soon as humanly possible.

00:46:30.540 And I don't want it at our expense.

00:46:32.460 But so, but the problem is they may well get to their country, Libya, Nigeria, Bangladesh, wherever it is, and that country say, yeah, you can go free. 0.96

00:46:43.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:43.520 So that's why.

00:46:44.200 We don't recognise the UK courts and the sentence they gave.

00:46:47.720 That, that, I think there must be some sort of coordination with embassies then.

00:46:53.120 There must be some kind of coordination.

00:46:56.380 We have a foreign national here from X country.

00:46:59.280 We have to now coordinate with the embassy of that country and to have like a department or something of, in charge of foreign criminals or their own nationals.

00:47:12.920 For criminals that have committed crimes overseas.

00:47:16.300 And then they go in and they obviously look over the case with the British and then come to a formal agreement.

00:47:24.800 Like we're going to send this person back, but also the punishment still stands with you.

00:47:31.360 And I think that's the way to sort of tighten it maybe.

00:47:36.000 Well, that would be nice.

00:47:36.900 It's just a little bit.

00:47:37.380 It sounds utopian, doesn't it?

00:47:38.600 I'm sorry.

00:47:39.480 It's just a little bit difficult.

00:47:40.260 I'm so hopeful.

00:47:40.840 And it relies on the trust of the other government.

00:47:44.260 Yeah.

00:47:44.540 It just isn't that.

00:47:45.360 This is, yeah, it's true.

00:47:46.700 It is a little bit difficult because one-

00:47:48.340 You have to add sanctions in if there's disagreement.

00:47:51.680 It's going to be quite messy.

00:47:53.180 There's going to be a lot of red tape.

00:47:54.480 I forgot to mention that, but by the Islander.

00:47:58.780 Do do that.

00:48:00.060 Buy that because that's good.

00:48:01.660 It's very good.

00:48:02.640 £14.99.

00:48:03.680 I always sound so disingenuous.

00:48:05.240 I'm not a salesman.

00:48:06.300 I'm not a salesman.

00:48:07.000 Sorry.

00:48:07.300 Sorry, Rory.

00:48:09.020 It is well good.

00:48:11.160 Buy it.

00:48:13.200 It is well good.

00:48:14.700 It's well-de-good, bruv.

00:48:17.300 Ream.

00:48:17.780 It's safe.

00:48:20.880 The Islander UK.

00:48:23.060 It's sweet as a cherry nut.

00:48:24.900 Buy it.

00:48:25.460 So, no, it's a bit difficult because one, you have to get that government to agree to loads

00:48:30.600 and loads of things.

00:48:31.420 Secondly, it could go one of two ways.

00:48:34.300 One, they could say, well, the crime you committed in the UK-

00:48:38.060 Is different to how we would interpret it.

00:48:40.040 Yeah.

00:48:40.060 The crime you commit in our country, that's not even a crime, say.

00:48:43.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:43.780 We don't, we don't, the UK sentence you to seven years for some sex crime.

00:48:49.580 And for us, we're like, no, well done, if anything.

00:48:52.780 Then it should be, then it should be, we are sentencing this national to this minimum years. 0.96

00:48:58.200 And if you, and then you have to agree to that.

00:49:01.480 You have to force the hand, essentially.

00:49:03.300 You have to agree to this sentence.

00:49:05.360 But if you would like to addition.

00:49:07.600 Yeah.

00:49:08.000 Well, I was going to say, it goes the other way.

00:49:10.300 It could be, say they committed a really heinous crime.

00:49:13.080 And in their own country, Saudi Arabia, say, or Pakistan or something.

00:49:19.360 The punishment for that is death.

00:49:21.100 Or like a hundred lashes in the public square or something like that.

00:49:24.780 So it used to often be, well, it still is often, the argument here in Britain

00:49:28.620 that we can't deport this person back to their country of origin.

00:49:32.000 Right.

00:49:32.320 Because that country has got a terrible human rights record. 0.83

00:49:35.700 And this person will be tortured or executed.

00:49:38.000 And we can't possibly have that.

00:49:39.000 So they have to live the rest of their life in Leeds, Birmingham, or whatever.

00:49:43.320 Yeah, it's case by case.

00:49:45.320 You hear that argument a bit less.

00:49:47.140 I have noticed.

00:49:48.760 Like, again, in this news cycle, where Yvette Cooper's talking about increasing the number

00:49:53.120 of countries we're going to send people back to. 0.99

00:49:54.720 I haven't seen a massive pushback from bleeding hearts and traitors.

00:50:00.900 You know, like someone like Chakrabarti or something.

00:50:04.820 Saying, oh, you can't deport people back to these countries because they'll be tortured

00:50:08.840 or put to death or something.

00:50:10.280 I've seen a bit less of that.

00:50:12.400 Because it just doesn't wash, I think, as much anymore.

00:50:14.960 The British, the average British natives.

00:50:17.180 I don't care.

00:50:18.260 They just can't be in Britain anymore.

00:50:19.640 I just don't know what happens after.

00:50:22.840 Like you said, we're talking all this about policy.

00:50:26.080 Like, you know, is there an agreement with the other country?

00:50:29.020 What would happen if they refuse?

00:50:30.640 You know, all of this.

00:50:31.420 These are all extremely important questions that need to be addressed.

00:50:34.740 None of the media are going to do that.

00:50:36.720 Nobody.

00:50:37.320 Nobody is going to do that.

00:50:39.460 And these are the most important questions.

00:50:41.900 Because like you said, someone who'd done a heinous crime, Axel Rudakabana, or like

00:50:48.320 someone or whatever.

00:50:49.420 I don't know.

00:50:51.280 And just a crime like that, right?

00:50:55.020 Deported.

00:50:56.180 And then what happens?

00:50:57.980 Where do they go?

00:50:59.120 Like, is it, like you said, Rome free?

00:51:01.100 Or is there an agreement?

00:51:02.880 Like, and nobody's asked that.

00:51:04.840 Nobody.

00:51:05.380 I've not seen it anyway.

00:51:06.880 If you try and have that discussion, quite often they still try and shut you down, don't

00:51:11.460 they?

00:51:11.780 But then what's the point of announcing the policy then?

00:51:16.200 And I'm trying to say this from someone who is trying to, it's near enough impossible,

00:51:22.780 but trying to be like, okay, well, if I was in that position, like, how would you do

00:51:28.000 it?

00:51:28.580 Like, and trying to brainstorm with that.

00:51:31.560 They've announced it.

00:51:32.900 So now I want to know, well, what happens after?

00:51:35.500 And nobody.

00:51:36.800 Sorry, I'm repeating myself.

00:51:37.740 The fact we don't get it.

00:51:38.780 The fact they don't talk about it in detail does say, doesn't it?

00:51:42.900 It does, it tells us that it's just red meat.

00:51:46.320 It's just a bit of gaslighting.

00:51:47.980 It's just one more step in that endless ladder of, we swear guys, trust us bro, we're doing

00:51:54.720 stuff to make you safer to try and revert, to try and help the demographic issue.

00:51:58.540 But they're not going to do any of it.

00:51:59.980 They're not going to do any of it.

00:52:01.160 To save our party.

00:52:02.320 I mean, our country.

00:52:03.720 Yeah, right.

00:52:04.520 Meanwhile, Restore, just a cavalcade of baseness.

00:52:11.400 Meanwhile, Rupert and Harrison and Charlie and the likes are, it's just like an endless

00:52:17.920 stream of super-based stuff.

00:52:19.660 That is art.

00:52:20.440 I really want them to make an actual party I can vote for.

00:52:23.080 Really, really want them to do that because at the moment it's still not an actual party,

00:52:26.940 is it?

00:52:27.160 But yeah, just being unapologetically based, Restore, and talking about, actually talking

00:52:35.740 about legal immigration now.

00:52:38.820 And going down the Douglas Carswell route of talking about stripping citizenship from people.

00:52:45.620 Yeah, you're given a citizenship.

00:52:47.400 Well, we can take it away again.

00:52:50.080 Or even that you were born here.

00:52:52.720 Yeah, well, we'll have to look into that actually.

00:52:55.600 Yeah, that's not written in stone.

00:52:58.540 No, it absolutely isn't.

00:53:00.520 It's just reverse mass immigration. 0.68

00:53:02.280 It's not like, no, we need a net zero migration.

00:53:05.280 Oh, yeah.

00:53:05.740 Oh, clutch the pearls, wring the hands. 1.00

00:53:08.080 Net zero, we'll go for a net zero migration policy.

00:53:13.220 Very expressive.

00:53:14.400 We need mass re-migration to the tunes of millions is what we need. 1.00

00:53:18.800 And Restore sort of begins to talk about that sort of thing.

00:53:21.900 Just explicitly, start sending them back, basically.

00:53:27.980 This is quite a based one.

00:53:30.360 The collaborators.

00:53:31.120 Collaborators, yeah.

00:53:32.240 Basically, the families of these rapists that may or may have been complicit in it,

00:53:39.780 knew about it, or silent about it, covered for them, whatever.

00:53:43.320 We need to think about deporting you as well.

00:53:46.160 One of the other things with things like this that Restore put out that I really like,

00:53:54.240 personally, as a form of psychological warfare, is where they'll say something along the lines

00:53:59.840 of just all the foreigners who hate Britain have got to go.

00:54:05.240 Don't say how many that is.

00:54:06.920 It's just like however many is necessary, however many fit that label, you know.

00:54:11.540 I want my country back, and I want it to be safe.

00:54:13.540 Yeah.

00:54:14.040 And I don't want to be flooded with fifth columnists.

00:54:17.340 Yeah, someone like Gawain Towler clutching his pearls.

00:54:20.040 Oh, people that haven't been convicted of any crime, you're going to deport them.

00:54:23.140 Yeah, we think about it, yeah.

00:54:25.020 Yeah.

00:54:27.840 Just abolish asylum. 1.00

00:54:29.120 Yeah.

00:54:29.340 Stop.

00:54:30.520 Yeah, we don't need it.

00:54:32.280 We're not obliged.

00:54:33.720 Britain isn't some sort of overflow car park for the world's detritus.

00:54:38.240 We're not obliged to give asylum to everyone in the world.

00:54:42.840 That's madness.

00:54:45.080 Oh, yeah, look.

00:54:45.660 So, like, the Labour government can say, oh, deportation's up.

00:54:50.180 Yeah, from an insane low.

00:54:52.740 Yeah.

00:54:53.120 Yeah.

00:54:53.820 There's a bit of an uptick. 0.99

00:54:57.040 Such disingenuous liars. 0.95

00:54:59.420 It's good data. 0.95

00:55:00.520 It's good data.

00:55:01.280 It's important.

00:55:02.000 Restore point it out.

00:55:03.020 Everyone should join Restore, or at least follow them on there.

00:55:09.640 Yeah.

00:55:10.040 Less remigration can save Britain. 1.00

00:55:11.880 Clear them out.

00:55:13.020 They need to be cleared out.

00:55:14.200 Clear them out. 0.98

00:55:15.540 Pakistani Europeans should be behind bars in Pakistan. 1.00

00:55:18.960 Absolutely. 0.96

00:55:19.660 Yeah.

00:55:20.380 And the thing is, as well, this is something that people can trust, because it's obviously

00:55:24.580 consistent.

00:55:26.180 It's obviously coming from a point of principle.

00:55:28.260 It's not, if Labour was sincere, this would have always been the position, right?

00:55:34.440 But it wasn't.

00:55:35.440 It's, oh, things are getting a little tough for us, so we'll just come to that really

00:55:39.040 sensible position now that everyone has been screaming at us to come to for years.

00:55:43.300 It's like, no, it's, yeah, we have been screaming for a long time.

00:55:47.520 I do actually believe, have faith in Restore and Rupert Lowe, and some of the other people

00:55:53.280 like Nick Tenconi or Britain First, a number of these parties and organisations, aren't, they're

00:56:00.720 not containment projects necessarily.

00:56:02.940 I do have faith that if Rupert Lowe was magically a Prime Minister with a massive mandate or an

00:56:08.080 autocrat of Britain or something, that he would do this.

00:56:12.300 That I may be proven wrong on that, only the future will show.

00:56:15.600 Yeah, I don't think so.

00:56:16.440 I do, you don't...

00:56:17.720 No, I don't think so.

00:56:19.000 You don't know if faith Rupert would do this thing?

00:56:20.800 Oh, no, yeah, oh, no, yeah, sorry.

00:56:22.980 No, I thought you meant, I thought you were saying something else, sorry.

00:56:25.460 Oh, okay.

00:56:25.980 No, carry on, sorry, ignore me.

00:56:28.340 I take your point, though, as well, and also the thing is, I think we all have to be mindful

00:56:33.440 of, is that because of the sheer scope of the betrayal, because of how much that the

00:56:40.440 people of Britain have had to endure over the decades now, because, you know, the establishment

00:56:46.400 has slid more and more away from the actual wishes of the people.

00:56:50.540 It's created this whole atmosphere of distrust, where we don't really trust anything, and

00:56:57.980 everyone who comes up on the horizon, we have to question, we have to question rightly, are

00:57:03.820 they sincere?

00:57:04.720 Yeah.

00:57:05.040 Are they going to burn us again?

00:57:06.440 Are they going to betray us again?

00:57:08.040 But at the same time, we shan't be able to succeed if we don't find a way to trust.

00:57:14.600 True.

00:57:15.080 Right?

00:57:15.340 We do need trust in order to win, but we have to be sure we're putting it in the right people.

00:57:21.880 Yeah.

00:57:22.500 No, I agree with that.

00:57:25.080 45% of Britain, I suspect that even is low.

00:57:28.300 It's low.

00:57:28.780 I think there's the silent people that will go out to these-

00:57:32.400 Anonymous.

00:57:33.340 That came from Jov.uk, so you know it's higher.

00:57:36.320 So the reality is much higher.

00:57:38.120 If anyone's just listening to the audio, it's a graphic that says, 45% of Britain supports

00:57:42.240 reversing mass immigration.

00:57:44.360 I suspect it's a lot higher.

00:57:45.920 It's a lot higher.

00:57:46.680 I swear if Nigel became truly based, it's actually saying stuff in the nativist interest,

00:57:53.220 he'll be polling twice what he's polling.

00:57:55.740 I'm convinced of that.

00:57:59.860 Negative.

00:58:00.540 Negative immigration. 0.98

00:58:01.880 Yes, please.

00:58:02.480 Yeah.

00:58:03.440 Lovely jubbly.

00:58:05.760 And just simply, we must put our own first.

00:58:09.360 Yeah.

00:58:10.700 Yeah.

00:58:11.560 It's got to happen.

00:58:12.680 Okay.

00:58:13.320 So, well, I'll leave it there.

00:58:16.820 I've run out of time.

00:58:17.560 All right.

00:58:18.940 All right.

00:58:19.760 Perfect.

00:58:20.700 I'll just go through some of the rumble rants.

00:58:23.560 Sorry about that.

00:58:24.160 I didn't know what was going on then.

00:58:25.620 My brain just like went a bit weird.

00:58:27.300 And I was like, I don't think.

00:58:28.220 And then I was like, hang on a minute.

00:58:29.300 No, what's going on?

00:58:30.240 I was having my own moment.

00:58:31.840 I don't know.

00:58:32.600 Yeah.

00:58:32.780 Sorry about that.

00:58:33.500 I do think, actually.

00:58:35.100 Based overload.

00:58:39.260 Connor Smugmug says, I bought my Islander 4 by Islander Chat.

00:58:43.880 Can I get my Islander 2 with it?

00:58:46.260 I don't believe we're selling Islander 2 anymore.

00:58:48.940 But if you were to email the Lotus Eater's email address, then I'm sure you could get

00:58:54.640 that answered for you, Connor.

00:58:55.880 If he's already bought one and just hasn't received it, then apologies for that.

00:59:00.420 Yeah.

00:59:00.740 I'm not.

00:59:01.500 It's not entirely.

00:59:02.420 By Islander Chat.

00:59:04.120 I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to, Connor.

00:59:07.440 But, yeah.

00:59:08.500 If you email the Lotus Eater's email address, we'll get that straightened out for you.

00:59:12.300 One quick thing I'll say is that, to anyone who's watching this that's had issues getting

00:59:16.260 their Islander magazine, is that I always thought when we started this thing, I always

00:59:21.240 thought one of the least of the headaches about it was putting the bloody physical thing

00:59:25.920 in some sort of envelope and putting it in the mail.

00:59:28.720 Surely that's not problematic.

00:59:30.840 That's the most problematic and complicated thing out of almost all of it.

00:59:35.320 Like, that's actually weirdly, weirdly complicated and difficult and doesn't go smoothly.

00:59:42.720 And we've tried, like, two or three different things to iron that out.

00:59:48.200 Oh, maybe the first time we did it, we didn't know what we were doing and we made a few errors.

00:59:52.080 Okay, next time it will just be fine.

00:59:53.460 No.

00:59:53.980 There's then another issue.

00:59:55.120 There's another problem.

00:59:56.480 And anyway, so apologies to anyone that's still waiting for theirs, especially older copiers.

01:00:02.180 We'll try to do everything we can to get them to you.

01:00:04.360 But it's weirdly, unless you've ever done a mass mailing, you just wouldn't know that

01:00:11.160 that's actually a complex thing.

01:00:13.720 Decline all around.

01:00:15.000 Anyway.

01:00:15.600 We've got Logan Pine saying, the Dark Lord's trying to save his party, but his incompetent

01:00:24.360 minions keep dropping the ball.

01:00:26.940 Yeah, most likely.

01:00:28.420 Well, I mean, obviously Blair will want the Labour Party to survive.

01:00:31.840 It's just, who's going to be there to keep the lights on at this rate?

01:00:38.340 There's no, there's no, and that's the thing as well.

01:00:40.520 There's a lot like with the Tories.

01:00:42.500 There's no talent behind Starmer to come in and save anything from them.

01:00:46.720 They're all, Ms. Ed Balls is not going to become Prime Minister. 1.00

01:00:51.020 Who would it be if he just, yes, tomorrow, if he tomorrow just disappeared?

01:00:56.440 Yeah.

01:00:56.860 Who would it be?

01:00:58.020 Ramy, Badenoch.

01:01:00.880 Perfect.

01:01:01.440 What optics that would be.

01:01:03.040 If there was a leadership contest, I guess Yvette Cooper. 1.00

01:01:06.300 It would be Yvette, yeah.

01:01:07.180 It probably would, wouldn't it?

01:01:07.980 Or Angela.

01:01:09.100 Maybe Angela.

01:01:09.760 It'd probably be Rainer.

01:01:10.700 I don't actually know who's got the biggest block within the party, but I would imagine

01:01:17.700 it would be, probably Yvette Cooper would be the next leader. 0.99

01:01:20.440 It'd probably be Yvette, yeah. 0.99

01:01:22.760 Scanline says, instead of using hotels, why don't we fill up their embassies with the people 1.00

01:01:28.140 whilst we process them?

01:01:29.760 Well, I mean, it'd be a lot of guesswork involved there, wouldn't they, given they've thrown

01:01:34.520 up their ID and everything and we've no idea who they are.

01:01:37.320 Quite often going in their embassy, it's like a big children building somewhere in Knightsbridge.

01:01:43.140 That's even more luxurious than the hotel they're in, if you put them there, but yeah,

01:01:47.720 at least they would be off our soil, technically speaking.

01:01:50.120 Technically, yeah.

01:01:52.440 Habsification says, anyone committing sex crime should receive, yes, okay, I'm not going

01:01:56.700 to read that Habsification, but I take the point.

01:01:58.800 Probably best.

01:02:02.040 And thank you.

01:02:04.520 Thank you for all the Fed posts.

01:02:05.900 It's the next one we can't read out either.

01:02:08.160 Yeah, okay, right.

01:02:09.480 Fed posting aside, Samson's laughing.

01:02:11.520 There's Samson laughing.

01:02:12.700 All right, Lewis, over to you.

01:02:14.540 Okay.

01:02:16.740 If you'd like to go back, thank you very much.

01:02:19.360 Okay.

01:02:21.080 I just need a mouse as well.

01:02:22.680 That's all right.

01:02:23.240 I was going to use that.

01:02:25.200 Don't turn it.

01:02:27.020 The air con controller.

01:02:28.320 Indeed.

01:02:29.680 Right.

01:02:30.040 This segment that we're about to do, I believe, is an incredibly important one.

01:02:36.740 I've been investigating this for a couple of months.

01:02:39.840 I've had stone walls, but I finally managed to receive some data from the home office,

01:02:44.360 who have kindly given it after a bit of pressure, which is great.

01:02:48.760 I've already done a video on this a few days ago, and I've uploaded it.

01:02:51.980 Was it Freedom of Information stuff you did?

01:02:53.560 It was, yes.

01:02:55.540 My favorite thing to do in my past time, believe it or not.

01:02:59.300 And I think I wanted to do this segment essentially again, because I've already made a video on

01:03:06.460 it, but I thought it was important to bring it to the lower seaters for a wider audience

01:03:11.400 as well, because of how important it is.

01:03:14.560 Obviously, what we're going to do, obviously, I've been sent a list of data on the 14 NGOs

01:03:20.700 and charities that have been formally engaged by the UK Home Office in influencing asylum

01:03:27.840 accommodation policy between 2020 to 2024.

01:03:32.500 Best behavior on this one, is all I'll say.

01:03:35.920 I have to present this as fact.

01:03:38.660 We have to go through it as fact.

01:03:40.360 But I will be naming the CEOs and directors behind each of these companies that have been

01:03:46.000 listed by the Home Office.

01:03:49.000 So I'll just say, before we go into it, Bo, would you like to do some shilling?

01:03:55.320 It's your turn.

01:03:56.460 It's my turn.

01:03:57.040 You should buy Islander. 0.78

01:03:58.920 I actually really, really love the magazine.

01:04:01.120 I think it's fantastic.

01:04:02.220 This is an outsider's perspective.

01:04:04.300 I don't work here and I'm not being held hostage to do it.

01:04:10.360 Don't worry.

01:04:10.960 No, not at all.

01:04:12.540 Just out of frame.

01:04:13.540 Yeah, just out of frame.

01:04:15.120 Okay.

01:04:16.880 No, you should go and get this.

01:04:18.940 $14.99, is it?

01:04:20.240 There it is.

01:04:21.440 Plus postage and packaging, which in America is a few more quid.

01:04:25.360 I'm biased because obviously I come here a lot and do segments, but also I know Rory

01:04:32.240 very well and he does a fantastic job with all the artwork and just arranging everything.

01:04:38.240 I mean, that's cool.

01:04:38.980 All of it is just awesome.

01:04:42.380 Some really, really cool people as well writing.

01:04:45.020 So you should go and get it.

01:04:48.020 So, okay, let's begin.

01:04:51.880 So, like I said, in this investigation, I'm going to reveal the 14 NGOs and charities that

01:04:57.560 were formally engaged by the UK Home Office through Freedom of Information.

01:05:01.580 So many of these groups shape the direction of UK immigration policy behind closed doors

01:05:07.820 with limited public scrutiny and, in some cases, taxpayer involvement.

01:05:14.720 So here's the request that I've been given back.

01:05:17.680 So we'll just go through it a bit.

01:05:18.940 Thank you for your email on the 8th of July.

01:05:22.320 We've included in the Annex A.

01:05:24.440 So your request has been handled.

01:05:27.160 If you're dissatisfied, X, Y, and Z.

01:05:29.160 As part of internal review, the department's handling of your request would be reassessed

01:05:33.020 by staff who are not involved in providing you with this request.

01:05:36.500 So I originally sent the request.

01:05:38.760 They said, no, we can't give you that information.

01:05:41.320 Sorry.

01:05:41.620 And I'll ask for a list of NGOs or charities that have been formally engaged, et cetera,

01:05:47.000 et cetera.

01:05:47.480 For each organization, please indicate the nature of engagement.

01:05:51.080 For example, consultation, funding, delivery partner, MOU, and the years of involvement.

01:05:57.760 And I'm not requesting any detailed correspondence or raw documents, just a structured list.

01:06:03.560 Because you have to do it condensed.

01:06:05.340 Because that's the way that it forces a department's hand to give the information by law.

01:06:12.280 And this is what they've given me in Annex B.

01:06:16.380 So it's given me a list between 2020 to 2024 of every organization and type of engagement.

01:06:22.480 So it says, based on the information you provided, here is a structured list of non-governmental

01:06:27.680 organizations and charities that were formally engaged by the Home Office in relation to

01:06:32.240 assignment accommodation, including the type.

01:06:35.440 So I thought we could go through each particular organization.

01:06:39.460 I just want to, as well, disclaimer, I'm not accusing anyone of wrongdoing or anything

01:06:45.680 like that.

01:06:46.320 This is purely just based on facts that the Home Office has provided me.

01:06:51.500 But I think it's important to look into these particular organizations.

01:06:56.700 As Charlotte has said, in her opinion, she says, charities are the main drivers of open

01:07:03.160 borders.

01:07:03.560 She said, there's lots of them, and it's very incestuous slash self-perpetuating.

01:07:08.500 Private and state funds are problems.

01:07:10.600 Some charities end up indirectly receiving taxpayer funding.

01:07:13.800 For example, being funded by taxpayer-funded charities.

01:07:16.720 And she says, it's a racket.

01:07:20.540 So yeah, I think it's important to bear that in mind as we go through.

01:07:26.420 But like I said, an opinion.

01:07:28.700 So the first one we have, if I just bring the mouse down to this document.

01:07:34.660 Okay.

01:07:36.560 So just taxpayers involuntary, unknowingly.

01:07:40.080 Unknowingly, potential.

01:07:41.160 They don't list exactly which ones, but I'm sure that people like, of course, Charlotte

01:07:47.660 have looked into these charities, other people.

01:07:50.320 I only know a surface level, so I'm trying to get up to speed with it.

01:07:54.340 So I don't know which ones yet, but I'm sure we can find out.

01:07:57.760 But the first one in this, if I just go back.

01:08:01.820 Oh, no.

01:08:02.920 Sorry, Toots.

01:08:03.840 That's all right.

01:08:04.460 I'm going to go back to the FOI, if that's all right, with the list.

01:08:07.580 So we're just up here.

01:08:08.840 Thanks, Samson.

01:08:09.580 Lovely.

01:08:09.880 So the first one is called Micro Rainbow, and they're a support charity for asylum seekers

01:08:17.120 that are LGBTQ+, and their consultation was via the NASF and SEG meetings.

01:08:26.120 So what that means, I've got this written down here somewhere, but it's basically stakeholder,

01:08:34.860 policy stakeholder meetings.

01:08:36.420 So they'll have like a round table, essentially, and they'll have a representative there, and

01:08:40.900 they'll talk about the policy at hand.

01:08:42.960 So in this particular instance, it's the asylum policy.

01:08:46.560 So just to give you a background of what each of them are and what they do, essentially.

01:08:51.220 So they specialize in supporting LGBTQI plus asylum seekers, and their founder, who his name is

01:09:00.880 Sebastian Rocker, has been recognized internationally for, quote, inclusion work.

01:09:07.180 And that's the next one here.

01:09:10.660 If we go on.

01:09:12.080 There we go.

01:09:12.960 Sorry about that.

01:09:13.800 No, that's this guy, Sebastian Rocker.

01:09:16.800 So obviously, he's got a Wikipedia page there as well, which you can look into.

01:09:21.460 An Italian man.

01:09:22.520 An Italian man.

01:09:23.320 Yes.

01:09:24.060 Right.

01:09:24.420 The next one is the NACCOM, so No Accommodation Network.

01:09:33.160 So once again, the same type of consultation.

01:09:36.040 The CEO was Dave Smith as well.

01:09:40.060 It's a UK-based coalition of grassroots groups working on housing issues for migrants with,

01:09:47.060 quote, no recourse to public funds, allegedly.

01:09:49.720 I believe he's stepped down as well, so I don't quite know who the next person will be or is.

01:09:56.940 I believe it's quite recently.

01:09:58.560 I believe there's an article as well on their website too.

01:10:02.760 Another one is the British Red Cross, which, as we know, is a massive humanitarian charity

01:10:11.160 and emergency response unit almost.

01:10:13.900 I mean, it's been famous for a long, long time.

01:10:15.980 Yes.

01:10:16.340 It started by, I believe, I had his name written down, but it's not here anymore.

01:10:23.660 I think Lindsay, I think his name was, back in 1870 or something.

01:10:28.120 So very historic.

01:10:29.620 But it's now headed by Patrice Butzana Sita, originally from South Africa, from 2023 onwards,

01:10:38.080 and is the UK arm of the Global Red Cross Network with statutory duties in emergency support and migrant aid.

01:10:49.400 The next one is Refugee Action.

01:10:53.260 Now, I want to show you this article in just a second.

01:10:56.280 I just need to go back down onto this.

01:10:59.780 Forgive me, I'm terrible with you.

01:11:01.620 That's right.

01:11:02.300 I can do the one on that side for you.

01:11:04.880 Cool.

01:11:05.360 So Refugee Action is the next one, which is a charity assisting asylum seekers with integration and legal advice.

01:11:14.300 So these ones have been named as well as being around the table between 2020 to 2024 with the Home Office.

01:11:21.500 And the CEO is Tim Naur Hilton.

01:11:25.580 And he had written this article, which I found.

01:11:28.340 It's for The Big Issue.

01:11:29.360 We all know it's a massive newspaper for, I believe, the homeless as well.

01:11:34.740 It's a big charity for the homeless.

01:11:36.660 But he wrote back in December 2024,

01:11:40.140 the root causes of the UK's racist riots remain.

01:11:44.040 The government must be brave and destroy them.

01:11:47.380 This is his words.

01:11:49.760 You mean destroy, Tim?

01:11:51.300 I think he...

01:11:52.300 So I double-checked.

01:11:54.280 I believe he's talking about the root causes,

01:11:57.680 which allegedly is in this article.

01:12:01.740 What, being annoyed that our women folk are being sexually assaulted? 0.97

01:12:07.640 What, that, Tim?

01:12:09.700 Well, I agree.

01:12:10.960 We do need to destroy those root causes.

01:12:13.700 But you do that by not having those people in the country.

01:12:16.980 Surely, Tim.

01:12:19.840 Yes. 0.90

01:12:20.400 Gross. 0.87

01:12:20.860 Yes, indeed.

01:12:22.100 And I believe that this is in reference to the Southport riots,

01:12:25.500 because this was written in December 2024,

01:12:28.100 and is talking about, I believe,

01:12:30.140 the riots happening during that time just beforehand.

01:12:34.880 So, yeah, the Axel Rudakabana case,

01:12:37.920 and why people were annoyed and angry because of that.

01:12:42.420 So moving on, so the next one is called Asylum Matters,

01:12:49.100 which is a type of advocacy project amplifying refugee-slash-asylum voices. 0.92

01:12:55.800 That's the same consultation as well between the years 2020 to 2024.

01:13:01.120 The director and CEO is Louise Calvey.

01:13:04.440 And it was John Goodman.

01:13:06.080 And it's an advocacy-focused group that lobbies for policy changes and coordinates regional campaigns on refugee rights as well.

01:13:15.900 So that's another one.

01:13:18.020 And there's plenty more.

01:13:22.280 Like I said, there's 14 that have been, of course, part of this.

01:13:26.680 The next one is the...

01:13:29.140 Sorry, sorry, just back one.

01:13:32.440 So the next one is the Scottish Refugee Council,

01:13:36.560 which is a Scottish-based charity.

01:13:39.500 Once again, the same years, 2020 to 2024, and same consultation.

01:13:43.560 The CEO being Sabir Zazai, who was an Afghan-born refugee.

01:13:49.020 And they work on housing, legal aid, and integration for asylum seekers in Scotland as well.

01:13:57.860 Come to our country. 1.00

01:13:59.860 And that's how you thank us.

01:14:02.200 Looks like Martin Scorsese.

01:14:05.220 And the next one after that...

01:14:09.900 Sorry.

01:14:10.460 It's okay.

01:14:11.640 It's okay.

01:14:13.660 The next one is Refugee Council,

01:14:15.500 which is a big historic, I believe, charity fund or trust as well.

01:14:22.380 Not trust, sorry.

01:14:24.440 Charity that has been involved as well.

01:14:26.500 Well, consultation, once again, same thing, same years.

01:14:31.680 And it's one of the UK's most prominent refugee organizations dating back to the 1950s as well.

01:14:37.320 The CEO is, of course, let's have a look.

01:14:42.220 The CEO is Enver Solomon, with the chair being Rachel Orr.

01:14:46.840 I believe that's right at the top as well.

01:14:48.800 That's him there.

01:14:49.480 So, the next one we have is ASAP, Asylum Support Appeals Project,

01:14:56.740 which is a legal charity for asylum support appeal hearings.

01:14:59.980 And the director is Marion Francis Edge, according to Company House.

01:15:05.840 And it's a legal-focused NGO offering support to destitute asylum seekers challenging home office decisions.

01:15:13.260 So, I'm noticing as well that there are lots of different types of charities, NGOs, organizations already,

01:15:21.520 from people that give legal advice, as well as legal advice on housing, obviously, because it's with the Home Office,

01:15:30.680 but also rights and aid and lots and lots and lots of different types of strands.

01:15:38.540 All the different means to just keep them in the country.

01:15:41.280 Exactly.

01:15:41.760 And what's interesting as well is there's no group that does maybe the opposite or has, like, an opposing opinion or an opposing one as well.

01:15:54.180 If we did have the policy where you were detained or held on remand until you were just deported,

01:16:01.500 then there would be absolutely no need for a whole organization to make sure you're not homeless.

01:16:06.860 We wouldn't be homeless.

01:16:07.680 You'd be held on remand.

01:16:09.360 Right?

01:16:09.940 Right.

01:16:10.180 So, that would clear that up for a start.

01:16:14.140 But, anyway.

01:16:15.040 Yeah.

01:16:16.060 The next one, nearly there, so is ASAP, which is Asylum Support Appeals Project.

01:16:22.660 So, once again, a legal charity for, sorry, just going back up, the Legal Charity for Asylum Support Appeal Hearings.

01:16:30.960 Right.

01:16:31.580 So, we're starting to see a bit of a, almost a bigger picture and a bigger context as to why it's becoming quite,

01:16:39.960 increasingly difficult for politicians who may be, like, you know, trying to challenge the asylum system and the broken asylum system that we're told about as well.

01:16:51.840 So, there's things in place for as soon as you get here, things in place to help you with your legal troubles, and then something in place to help you with your appeal should you fail first time round.

01:17:01.760 Right.

01:17:02.620 It's okay.

01:17:03.080 They've got all the bases covered.

01:17:04.160 Indeed.

01:17:05.680 Indeed.

01:17:07.380 So, this next one, sorry.

01:17:09.640 I think we just touched on that.

01:17:11.820 The next one here is Freedom From Torture.

01:17:14.660 So, this was a type of medical and therapeutic support for torture survivors between the years 2020-2024, the CEO being Sonia Skeets, and it's a group that lobbies on behalf of torture survivors in asylum cases.

01:17:29.640 But this same particular one, after doing a bit of digging, because they've been going around, like it says there, like over 40 years, they were lobbying against the Rwanda scheme, the one that the Tories set up.

01:17:43.820 So, they were really lobbying against that, that particular process, and it seems as though that, of course, failed completely.

01:17:52.040 Yes.

01:17:53.100 Yes.

01:17:53.340 Well, it's because they've got human rights, a record of human rights abuses in Rwanda.

01:17:57.960 Is that the case?

01:17:58.680 I don't, I actually don't know.

01:18:00.060 I believe that there has been, yeah, over the years.

01:18:02.320 Don't get me wrong.

01:18:02.840 I was against the Rwanda scheme too. 0.82

01:18:04.880 But for different reasons.

01:18:05.940 For different reasons, right.

01:18:07.380 Right, right.

01:18:07.980 It was always a one-in-one-out thing anyway.

01:18:10.280 Yeah.

01:18:10.600 Right.

01:18:11.620 We're just going to exchange, what, like Albanian asylum seekers for a Rwandan person?

01:18:16.600 Yeah.

01:18:17.920 Yeah.

01:18:18.740 I don't...

01:18:19.300 And pay them for the privilege.

01:18:20.640 So, it was always a swizz. 1.00

01:18:22.340 It was always this direction at best.

01:18:25.860 Because, yeah, because there was a big, there was, I think I remember the Rwandan scheme, 0.85

01:18:30.060 there was a big push for different types of campaigns, both for and against.

01:18:34.760 And everyone had all these different sorts of opinions and different sort of basis to why it would and why it wouldn't work from both the Tories and Labour.

01:18:43.680 And I believe, I need to double-check this, but I believe freedom from torture, yes, was part of stopping the Rwanda scheme, allegedly.

01:18:57.300 And, yes, part of the lobbyist groups for that.

01:19:00.660 But still, their tenure between the Home Office and them is between 2020 and 2024.

01:19:07.780 So, it's not just Rwanda, it could be others as well, which I don't know yet.

01:19:13.260 And the next one is Rainbow Migration, formerly the UK Lesbian and Gay Immigration Group, which is a type of charity helping LGBTQI plus people with asylum claims, same years, 2020 to 2024,

01:19:29.540 and provides legal guidance and advocacy for LGBTQI plus migrants, including those fleeing persecution.

01:19:36.920 And that is Leila Zadeh, of course, the CEO or Executive Director.

01:19:44.160 The next one is the Helen Bamber Foundation, which is a charity, again, providing rehabilitation to survivors of trafficking and torture as well.

01:19:54.960 They've had the same consultations, 2020 to 2024.

01:19:59.600 The CEO is Alison Pickup, and they offer clinical and legal support for asylum seekers suffering extreme trauma.

01:20:07.080 So, like I said, I'm going through all these charities that the Home Office has given me,

01:20:11.520 and just giving just a broader context on who they are and what they do, just a reminder.

01:20:16.500 And the last one as well, oh no, there's a couple of more others, I'm so sorry.

01:20:24.940 It's quite a lot, 14.

01:20:26.920 Migrant Help is one, which is a direct support charity for asylum seekers.

01:20:34.500 And they were actually, it wasn't just an NASF consultation, they're a delivery partner, what is called AIRE contract.

01:20:42.740 Now, I have the actual, what's the term, the abbreviation of that and what that actually means, just up here.

01:20:53.160 Two seconds.

01:20:55.020 So, yeah, the National Asylum Stakeholder Forum, which is the NASF, and it's Strategic Engagement Group, so SEG.

01:21:03.860 So, Migrant Help acted as a delivery partner for, yeah, AIRE services, otherwise known as Advice on Individual Rights in Europe.

01:21:15.060 So, that's a specific type of strain as well.

01:21:18.080 So, that strays away from the original just consultation.

01:21:21.840 They're actually providing more of a delivery service on help.

01:21:26.580 So, a bit more sort of coordination in that respect.

01:21:29.640 I know it's quite a lot to take in, so I do apologise.

01:21:34.140 So, just so perverted.

01:21:36.000 So, just so.

01:21:38.760 And, okay, so that one.

01:21:40.880 You're right, it is, but just quickly say, it is a bit perverse because, I think that's the right word, because, you know, on the face of it, isn't that a wonderful, noble thing to try and help people that have been tortured?

01:21:52.700 Right?

01:21:53.320 On the face of it.

01:21:54.440 Yeah. 0.87

01:21:54.640 But then, the reality is, you're flooding us with rapists, though. 0.57

01:22:01.600 Right?

01:22:02.140 What a perverse thing to sort of subverted something as good, even noble, as trying to help torture victims.

01:22:11.100 To subvert that and make that into some sort of tool or part of cog in the machine of making white people, natives, a minority in their own ancestral homeland. 0.99

01:22:21.780 What a disgusting... 0.98

01:22:24.080 Well, and how many of these people are foreign as well? 0.94

01:22:26.740 Because foreigners have obviously been let in, first generation, second generation. 0.94

01:22:30.040 Seems like quite a lot of them.

01:22:30.940 By our good graces, you know, given our, and rather than try and preserve the safe country that they've come to, just exacerbating the problem, making it a more dangerous place than they first arrived in.

01:22:42.780 So, like I said, I'm going to just stick with, obviously, what's been given by the Home Office.

01:22:48.840 I'm not going to, obviously, for this particular segment, I personally am not going to dive into anything.

01:22:54.900 But, you know, so that's, you know, just going to, yeah.

01:22:59.120 The next one is ILPA, which is the Immigration Law Practitioners Association.

01:23:04.000 They're kind of like a legal professionals membership group that done, obviously, once again, consultation.

01:23:12.840 Jonathan Griffin as well.

01:23:14.880 And apparently they're currently looking for a new CEO as well.

01:23:17.880 But he's part of a sustainability, a sustainability, I believe, company or some kind of thing there.

01:23:27.520 It's not a charity, like I said, but a legal association that influences immigration policy through expert lobbying as well.

01:23:34.600 So there's lots of different NGOs, charities, and even law firms almost that the Home Office has provided that has explained what is going on in that respect.

01:23:47.860 And the last one is one that isn't a surprise.

01:23:52.000 But that's the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees as well.

01:23:57.100 So the UN Refugee Agency has been heavily involved with, quote, strategic consultation and policy advisory role.

01:24:06.080 So the UN has been advising in terms of policy with the Home Office.

01:24:10.460 That's what I'm reading there.

01:24:12.040 And having major strategic consultation.

01:24:16.320 The UK representative is Vicky Tennant.

01:24:18.840 And it's the official UN body responsible for monitoring the UK's compliance with international refugee law.

01:24:27.100 So you can, if you would like, I've already made a video on this as well, but I'll provide the link for all of these particular organizations.

01:24:38.160 And you can read through it yourself.

01:24:40.200 Don't take my word for it.

01:24:41.560 Like I said, these are all public-facing figures of each organization.

01:24:48.000 And this is what the Home Office has given me.

01:24:51.240 So I'm just repeating exactly what the Home Office said.

01:24:54.520 Feel free to go through the list yourself.

01:24:56.780 Just to double check, fact check, do what you got to do.

01:24:59.380 But I believe it's in the public interest that people need to know what is going on.

01:25:06.960 You know, the broader picture.

01:25:09.440 You know, we always talk about things like the charities.

01:25:12.480 And of course, with Charlotte's particular post as well.

01:25:17.900 So I think it's in the public interest for people to understand and know.

01:25:21.760 So that's why I brought this information onto the lower seaters today and just to share.

01:25:28.040 And that's it.

01:25:29.940 No, it's great work.

01:25:31.040 It's sterling work.

01:25:32.260 It's so good that haven't you been plagiarized?

01:25:35.340 Haven't some other mainstream media just basically stolen your stuff?

01:25:40.660 Well, Habsification here says, 0.93

01:25:42.080 Lewis and Charlotte have been screwed over by the legacy media. 0.93

01:25:44.780 Plagiarism is all they have left since these institutions are lazy and slow and can't keep up. 0.90

01:25:50.440 Their legitimacy is dying out.

01:25:52.240 Yeah, they keep nicking your stuff.

01:25:53.720 Yeah, so a bit of context on that.

01:25:55.520 For those who don't know, because I have been shouting about it for the whole weekend.

01:25:58.460 So I'm so sorry.

01:26:01.020 Yeah, there's been two particular stories that I've broken.

01:26:04.620 One was the asylum.

01:26:07.700 It was the HC2 certificates that have been given to low income.

01:26:13.760 People of low income in the UK.

01:26:16.060 And there was nearly a million of these certificates given to asylum seekers in particular across the nation.

01:26:23.420 And I fought tooth and nail to try and get that information.

01:26:28.120 And I did.

01:26:29.100 And I posted it.

01:26:30.860 And the NHS, of course, what they would do, they would take that information and they will post it on the NHS data log, as they would do if a new bit of information is drawn out.

01:26:42.020 But they get rid of your personal details, which makes sense.

01:26:45.700 So you can't see who looked into it.

01:26:48.560 And even though I posted it, several days later, the Telegraph in particular, or a journalist from the Telegraph, took the story and said it was the Telegraph.

01:26:58.620 The Telegraph can reveal that.

01:27:00.620 Yes.

01:27:01.700 And that was actually me.

01:27:03.200 So sleazy.

01:27:04.820 Yeah, I know, yeah.

01:27:06.200 So sleazy.

01:27:07.020 You've got no shame whatsoever.

01:27:08.680 Yeah.

01:27:09.080 So there was that.

01:27:09.880 And there was the incident of when I did the TV shows that had COVID messaging, nudge unit messaging, lots of different stuff.

01:27:22.680 And I managed to get internal memos between the CEOs of all these big broadcasters, the BBC, Channel 4, all of these.

01:27:30.140 Managed to draw that out.

01:27:32.060 And they did the same thing.

01:27:33.740 Well, the Telegraph.

01:27:34.520 Yeah.

01:27:35.740 Journalists from the Telegraph did that.

01:27:37.240 Yeah.

01:27:37.640 And same with Charlotte as well.

01:27:40.160 They've ripped off her stories as well and passed it.

01:27:42.920 She even pitched it.

01:27:44.200 I saw it.

01:27:45.180 She even pitched the story to them about the asylum seekers that were receiving Valentine's cards from school.

01:27:52.740 Did you see that?

01:27:53.340 Yeah, I did.

01:27:53.740 So she pitched it to the Telegraph and they were like, no thanks.

01:27:56.180 And then said great work.

01:27:58.420 And then was like, nah. 0.96

01:27:59.820 Scambulous.

01:28:00.540 That's bad. 0.98

01:28:01.760 Cheeky.

01:28:02.120 Cheeky.

01:28:02.660 More than cheeky.

01:28:03.480 Yeah, it's way more than cheeky.

01:28:05.240 So I want to clear up as well about this because people have been asking me, well, why can't you sue?

01:28:10.620 Can't you do this?

01:28:11.400 Can't you do that?

01:28:12.580 Because it's freedom of information and it goes out into the public domain and it becomes very, very difficult.

01:28:20.180 You could say intellectual property.

01:28:22.140 You could go down all these routes.

01:28:25.500 But unfortunately, it's not like America where you can just, you know, do that.

01:28:30.780 But I have no intention of doing something like that because that's not me anyways.

01:28:37.760 And people know.

01:28:38.960 Yeah, I was going to say, people even know, know.

01:28:40.640 No.

01:28:41.100 And I like the Telegraph.

01:28:43.220 I like what they do.

01:28:44.460 You know, there are some great journalists there.

01:28:46.440 You know, Michael Murphy, Alison Pearson, you know, all of these people.

01:28:50.760 So it's not in my interest to do that.

01:28:53.660 But it is very, very, very annoying.

01:28:56.540 We must have had a deal with it.

01:28:57.540 I've seen quite a few segments, even one or two of mine, that we do on Lotus Eaters.

01:29:02.320 And then, like, a few days later, it's a bit on GB News.

01:29:07.400 Yeah.

01:29:08.060 That totally happens from time to time.

01:29:10.980 This is what happens.

01:29:11.500 Or just a talking point that someone like Carl or Harry or me or Josh will say something.

01:29:17.480 And then it's suddenly a talking point amongst those of them.

01:29:20.840 Because, like you say, you don't own it.

01:29:23.060 If you put it out there in a public domain or on Twitter, you then don't own it.

01:29:26.300 So it's fair enough.

01:29:27.280 No, and it's data.

01:29:28.180 It's government data.

01:29:28.800 But it's a bit annoying that you get no credit or someone actively takes credit for it when it clearly wasn't them.

01:29:35.220 Exactly.

01:29:36.040 You know, I'm not asking for...

01:29:37.800 I'm just saying, you know, revealed by X, Y, and Z.

01:29:41.180 I mean, it's courteous.

01:29:42.180 You know, because what happens is a big outlet will take the story from, I'm going to say it, lower class journalists, you know, that are like citizen.

01:29:52.120 Yeah, I know.

01:29:52.700 I'm talking about myself, right?

01:29:54.480 You know, that are...

01:29:54.860 The artful dogs are a journalist.

01:29:56.820 Yeah, like lower class is how they would probably see it.

01:30:00.220 You know, the people who do the research, who send 30 FOI requests every week, you know.

01:30:06.860 So, and then what they would do, they would see it and go, okay, well, we can have that because, you know, it's in the public domain.

01:30:15.660 I'm not asking for much.

01:30:17.580 I'm moaning a lot.

01:30:20.160 Sorry, just to say, Connor, I've seen your rumble rant.

01:30:23.880 I'll speak to the support team and have that addressed for you.

01:30:26.800 Okay.

01:30:27.760 Sorry.

01:30:28.480 No, no, not at all.

01:30:29.200 Let's go to the video comments.

01:30:30.460 Okay.

01:30:36.860 I wonder what this is a clip from.

01:30:46.420 What was...

01:30:47.860 Oh, I know what this is.

01:30:49.220 I think I know what this is from.

01:30:55.460 It's like he's watching a massacre or something.

01:30:57.240 I thought that was going to be fun. 0.98

01:30:59.360 What the hell? 0.98

01:31:00.900 It was a murder. 0.99

01:31:02.460 Oh.

01:31:04.040 I was joking when I said he's watching a massacre. 0.61

01:31:06.740 That's actually Harry's face every time he gets another shitlib book through the post.

01:31:12.100 People send Harry loads of shitlib books for some reason.

01:31:14.580 Oh, really?

01:31:15.060 Oh, yeah.

01:31:15.420 I've seen his book collection.

01:31:17.180 Yeah, it's so funny.

01:31:18.320 It's James O'Brien book.

01:31:19.120 He's there going, oh, another one.

01:31:21.300 Just out of interest, because I didn't see that original bit of content with Harry and Josh there.

01:31:25.820 What murder?

01:31:26.700 What was it?

01:31:27.180 No idea.

01:31:28.080 I thought it was something else, but no.

01:31:30.980 Murder, murder, murder.

01:31:31.880 Okay.

01:31:31.900 And here we are at the Matsuo Marketplace.

01:31:39.180 Japanese summer festival.

01:31:41.860 Otherwise known as the Matsuri.

01:31:44.180 What's going on? 0.98

01:31:45.540 Right here is balls. 0.99

01:31:47.780 Takoyaki. 0.98

01:31:49.620 Takoyaki is Japanese gelop soup.

01:31:51.860 It feels battered with a little bit of vegetable, a little bit of ginger, and a little bit of octopus.

01:31:59.880 And they're really very good.

01:32:01.880 Here we are.

01:32:03.720 Someone just litter. 1.00

01:32:04.720 Sorry.

01:32:05.440 Someone just litter, like, commit a crime.

01:32:07.780 Oh, of course.

01:32:11.140 Just litters.

01:32:12.140 Takoyaki is very, very nice.

01:32:14.240 Yes, sir.

01:32:14.900 Hope you bought some.

01:32:16.740 Samson agrees, obviously.

01:32:18.300 Any more video comments?

01:32:20.600 Yep.

01:32:42.640 It looks like a very funny out, Michael.

01:32:44.680 Yes, he did grab my bum, but it's my fault he can see my hair, so I've just ordered a hijab on Amazon. 0.91

01:32:53.700 We don't need borders.

01:32:54.900 We need healing spaces.

01:32:56.860 After a few yoga classes, they'll stop harassing young girls, I promise. 0.97

01:33:00.620 We've launched a community art project where local schoolchildren write apology letters to the migrants for being British. 0.99

01:33:07.900 I'm not even from here, but the Labour Party...

01:33:10.240 No, it's AI.

01:33:11.540 Oh, is it?

01:33:11.960 It's AI.

01:33:12.400 Oh, my gosh.

01:33:13.900 Did you get conned by the AI?

01:33:15.740 Yeah, I thought this was real.

01:33:16.740 Oh, my day.

01:33:16.960 You thought that was real?

01:33:17.920 I thought all of these were real, yeah.

01:33:19.060 Oh, my day.

01:33:20.240 But the thing is, it's believable, though.

01:33:22.520 Oh, mate.

01:33:23.500 It's believable, though.

01:33:24.560 We're entering the boomer phase of tech, where we're being...

01:33:28.320 No, it's happened to me once.

01:33:30.020 It's happened to me once, and I was like, hang on a minute.

01:33:31.780 I've been fooled by loads of stuff.

01:33:33.040 Yeah?

01:33:33.460 I've been fooled by loads of stuff.

01:33:34.440 Oh, my God.

01:33:34.980 You see the one where they did... 0.52

01:33:36.420 You could actually see a bullet hole open up in Trump's ear in the Trump assassination.

01:33:40.860 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:41.680 I was fooled by that.

01:33:42.640 Right.

01:33:43.280 Oh.

01:33:44.020 I was like, whoa, you can actually see the...

01:33:46.280 Whoa.

01:33:46.980 Yeah.

01:33:47.340 Oh, I think I remember that.

01:33:48.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:48.700 I think I said it on here as well.

01:33:50.640 I was like, well, there's the footage of it.

01:33:52.420 Oh, no, you're getting fooled by AI.

01:33:54.640 Yikes.

01:33:54.880 That's bad.

01:33:55.140 The thing is, that's so good, because it is believable, though.

01:33:59.460 I bet there are...

01:34:00.640 There will be libtards that say exactly that sort of thing. 1.00

01:34:04.420 It's like...

01:34:04.860 There will be.

01:34:06.020 It's...

01:34:06.660 Yeah.

01:34:07.140 In fact, that last guy that said, we're getting school kids, primary school kids, to write

01:34:11.320 letters of apology.

01:34:12.140 I saw something that was pretty much exactly that.

01:34:14.840 For real.

01:34:15.820 Well, if we've seen them write in Valentine's Day.

01:34:17.720 Yeah, the Valentine's Day.

01:34:18.560 Right.

01:34:18.820 Right.

01:34:19.060 That's not a million miles away, is it?

01:34:21.140 No.

01:34:21.520 No, not at all.

01:34:22.500 Let's...

01:34:23.080 I'll just rumble through some of these comments, and then we'll...

01:34:27.140 Right.

01:34:27.340 So, Derek Power says, the Bow Hotel will be a fortress.

01:34:31.500 It definitely won't.

01:34:33.160 The Bow Hotel.

01:34:33.640 The Bow Hotel has a nice ring to it.

01:34:35.700 Is that like a euphemism for some sort of, like, Cambodian death prison?

01:34:39.780 No, I just misspoke when I said the Bell Hotel.

01:34:42.040 Oh, right.

01:34:42.920 Oh, okay.

01:34:43.580 Okay.

01:34:44.160 All right. 0.99

01:34:46.000 Russian garbage humans says, zero arrests at our protests because we aren't prescribed 0.99

01:34:51.200 yet. 0.99

01:34:52.500 Yeah, well, they'll find a reason, won't they?

01:34:55.460 And from your segment, Bow, Pakistan, Eritrea, Albania, Somalia, Morocco, on and on, et cetera,

01:35:06.120 all absent from the list of countries, they are essentially taking the crime league tables

01:35:11.880 and talking about deporting the underachievers. 0.96

01:35:16.600 Right, yeah.

01:35:17.460 Let's make sure we've got a deal in place with Luxembourg.

01:35:19.920 Oh, yeah.

01:35:20.780 Do you know what I mean?

01:35:21.540 I'd like to visit there, actually, off topic.

01:35:24.040 I would like to visit there.

01:35:26.140 David Ward says, reform have announced mass deportations.

01:35:29.400 Do you believe them?

01:35:30.140 No.

01:35:30.740 No, I don't, David.

01:35:31.660 Not at all.

01:35:32.720 And then from your segment, Lewis.

01:35:35.080 Sorry, just real quick.

01:35:37.060 The big, like, mass deportations of people that are criminals and stuff, but not, like,

01:35:42.180 Yeah, not re-migration.

01:35:43.760 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:44.260 No.

01:35:44.760 Yeah.

01:35:45.200 No.

01:35:45.400 David from your segment, Lewis says, Lewis's research is very valuable.

01:35:50.660 Thank you.

01:35:50.800 It's great getting the receipts.

01:35:52.640 Thank you.

01:35:52.880 Indeed.

01:35:53.320 Indeed.

01:35:54.160 And White Rider says, this list, man, can we also start, well, there does seem to be a

01:35:59.900 problem with the liberal white women, as White Rider points out on here. 1.00

01:36:05.480 And, honourable mention, North FC Zoomer says, day five of pestering Beau for a whistle-stop

01:36:12.500 tour of British history for us state-educated Zoomers.

01:36:17.360 Oh, okay.

01:36:19.140 Is that something you've been pestered about?

01:36:23.380 Not that's particularly permeated my consciousness, but...

01:36:26.320 Well, consider yourself pestered.

01:36:27.620 Well, we're over epochs, over, like, 200-plus episodes now.

01:36:31.000 Yeah.

01:36:31.760 A big chunk of that is all on British history.

01:36:34.220 Yeah.

01:36:34.640 But it might be good.

01:36:35.640 It is a good idea, maybe if I did one hour, hour and a half long episode, which was exactly

01:36:39.980 that a whistle-stop tour, not real detail, just maybe going from Caesar to Queen Elizabeth

01:36:48.080 II in an hour and a half.

01:36:49.720 That's not a bad idea at all.

01:36:50.820 Maybe I should do that.

01:36:51.840 That's cool, man.

01:36:52.380 I should do that.

01:36:53.720 250 epochs.

01:36:55.040 How much more whistle-stop do you want?

01:36:56.640 Yeah.

01:36:57.160 Come on.

01:36:57.700 See, I liked the, when you used to go, like, you used to do the tours of, like, the museums

01:37:01.560 and stuff, and you used to go around and, like, a tour guide, but for the Lotus, it

01:37:05.920 is, revive that, man.

01:37:07.360 Yeah.

01:37:07.740 Oh, I'd like to, yeah.

01:37:08.520 All right.

01:37:09.060 Well, that's definitely all we've got time for today, ladies and gentlemen.

01:37:12.860 Lewis, thank you for coming in.

01:37:13.960 Thank you.

01:37:14.440 As always.

01:37:15.060 Thank you very much.

01:37:15.580 And we'll see you at 1pm tomorrow.

01:37:17.940 Have a good day.

01:37:39.060 Bye-bye.

01:37:47.640 Bye-bye.

01:37:49.500 Bye-bye.

01:37:50.000 Bye-bye.

01:37:50.680 Bye-bye.

01:37:55.400 Bye-bye.

01:37:55.800 Bye-bye.

01:38:01.020 Bye-bye.

01:38:02.000 Bye-bye.

01:38:02.480 Bye-bye.

01:38:03.680 Bye-bye.

01:38:04.800 Bye-bye.

01:38:05.140 Bye-bye.

01:38:06.580 Bye-bye.

01:38:07.140 Thank you.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - August 11, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1227

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