The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1232
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Summary
In the wake of the Southport Riots, a Labour Councillor was found not guilty of the murder of three people in a counter-protest in Walthamstow, London last year. This week, Charlie and Stelios take a look at what happened that day, and try to make sense of what went wrong.
Transcript
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Who are the men that pick for scraps amongst the ruins at the end of history?
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You should know, because you encounter them every day.
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Between the towering buildings of a fallen empire, we find the Fellaheen, the historyless
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men, who know nothing of the turning of the cosmic wheel and find themselves outside of
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Cut loose from the great chain of being, they represent the loan into which our dying culture
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That is, unless we choose to take up the burden once again.
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This Fellaheen condition is the subject we explore in issue 4 of Islander Magazine.
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Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast of the Load Seaters for Monday
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Well, we will in a minute, because we're going to be talking about how Ricky Jones got
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If you're a Labour counsellor, you can call for people to have their throats slit and
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How an illegal immigrant in America killed three people and didn't care.
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Well, I mean, honestly, Nietzsche's going to be very happy about this.
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Everyone they are on Nietzsche was in favour of the death of God.
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But apparently they're going back to church, which is nice.
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So last week we encountered a very bad verdict.
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I would say it's a very nonsensical and unjust verdict.
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According to which Labour Councillor Ricky Jones was found not guilty.
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Now, who was and who is Labour Councillor Ricky Jones?
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About a year ago, he was in a counter protest in Walthamstow
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where he was speaking against the riots as well as other protests
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Yeah, this was directly in the wake of the Southport riots.
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And this was the counter protest as you can see being funded,
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at least in parts by the Socialist Workers Party.
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And he was a Labour councillor in Dartford in Kent.
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He went there to this counter protest in Walthamstow.
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I think it's the north towards the north of London.
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And he led this chant before he led the free, free Palestine chant,
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which doesn't seem to me particularly pertinent to the Southport murders.
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Like, it's just when everything is just packaged together.
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They're probably calling for climate justice immediately afterwards.
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So before he led the free, free Palestine chant,
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If that's not incitement to violence, I don't know what is.
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There seems to be an exhortation to engage in violent acts.
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And we're going to play this for YouTube purposes.
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Obviously, I'm going to say I'm not in favor of it.
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In the, you know, pointing to the throat and...
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Like, I saw the BBC coverage where they're like,
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we need to cut the throats of this fascist and throw them out.
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It says smash fascism and racism by any means necessary.
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I personally enjoyed the little white women who are just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I mean, I don't know how that's not incitement.
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Like we need to cut the throats of these people and throw them out.
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I've never called for cutting the throats of anyone.
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I would think that was how I was inciting if I was.
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Can we talk about the Omni cause very quickly if we can go back a second?
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Just because I find this to be one of the really interesting things how they happen to be on the same team for absolutely everything.
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Socialist workers smash fascism, racism, by any means necessary, free, free Palestine.
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And then I know what their opinions are on climate change.
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You know, I know what their opinions are on everything.
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Because notice that their entire worldview is anti the West.
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And I mean that like genuinely, like all of the pillars that make the West strong as in, you know, free speech, political rights, you know, anything that we consider natural and normal to a healthy society, they're completely against.
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Look at the faces around this Ricky Jones character.
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And it's all, you know, from the looks of it, middle class white people.
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Because Walthamstow, I've spent some time in Walthamstow, and it's one of these areas of London that is very, at once very diverse.
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And you have like, you know, halal butchers and Eritrean fast food shops, and then you have like hyper liberal white people.
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And also let us not forget that when he's talking about Nazi fascists, he is talking about people who disagree with all these demands.
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Because we know that the establishment is using these words very liberally.
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They are doing it to even describe policies they were advocating five, 10 years ago.
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He said that he spoke in the heat of the moment.
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He was in the middle of trying to encourage a crowd to go and cut the throats of fascists.
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He was suspended by the Labour Party the day after the alleged incident.
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A Labour councillor who called for far right protesters throats to be cut.
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So we're just conceding that they definitely are far right protesters.
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But we're also conceding that he definitely did it.
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Now, as far as I'm concerned, if I have this video, if I'm watching this video and someone pleads not guilty,
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that's even, that's a reason on its own to increase their punishment and their sentence.
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So what they did also was that he said that the comments were made in the heat of the moment.
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He denied encouraging violence, violent disorder.
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I mean, the party asked you to disbelieve your own eyes.
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It's got a different interpretation of what cutting throats means.
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I don't know why I was talking, but also curious how it was an isolated incident.
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So it wasn't an indication of a, any such thing as far leftist extremism, such as they would
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be in, in other cases where they, any, any mild criticism of the establishment is immediately
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Oh, well, I mean, if he's going to, he's mentally impaired.
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And how exactly can it be expected to be a counselor or anything like this?
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Cause like what they're basically saying there is like, Oh no, don't worry.
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He was, it's fine that he called for people's throats to be cut.
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And, but this is a, this is a, an excuse they use constantly when it's some migrant who
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Well, that's how we have cars and knives with mental illnesses across the West.
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The agreed facts read by Mr. Holt, who was the prosecutor stated, the experts agree that
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these challenges maybe may contribute to impulsive verbal responses in emotionally charged situations.
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Well, if I'm ever in court, I'm going to use this as my defense.
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It was, I was, I suffer from a number of neurodivergent challenges.
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And this contributes to impulsive verbal responses.
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When I'm in emotionally charged situations, like being on trial.
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But also you need to say to add something to it.
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Something that you need to add is that these challenges can impair his ability to plan responses
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And this is just an emotionally charged situation where he's making inappropriate remarks.
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It's so unbelievable in the context of the thing.
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You could, it would still be the same outcome if one, either of them was absent.
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The other is they're, they're literally programmed to be tribal.
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Well, I was just going to say, I mean, I don't know what the legal landscape is in terms of
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this sort of area, but all of those people's faces are on video cheering and cheering on
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Is there no sort of legal proceedings that could be brought against them?
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There was rumors about how much the court case lasted, how much the jury trial lasted,
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Because the whole thing was supposed to establish whether there was the criminal intent.
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What is called in Latin mens rea, according to which it has to be present in order for
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someone to be pronounced guilty, for a verdict to say that it's, this person is guilty.
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And essentially they said that we're going to have a jury trial.
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We're going to have 12 jurors that are going to be selected randomly.
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If it was a conviction, then yeah, it would have been cut and dry.
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Also, there have been extra rumors going around about the, let's say the diverse nature of
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That's why I'm not going to show anything, but there have been concerns about who was
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I have seen people saying that something like half the jury was diverse.
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Well, I was going to say, yeah, it is a very diverse place.
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So it would probably be virtually impossible not to have a diverse jury.
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Um, and that then leads on to further questions of, okay, what does a jury of my peers actually
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Because I mean, like, if, if this was in Lebanon or something, and you got a jury full
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of, uh, people of a different religion to you, if you were say like for us, Druze or
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Christian, and you've got a jury of Muslims, you'd be like, well, these aren't my peers.
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Uh, and I don't really consider there to be a collective we between us and the diversity.
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Uh, and I saw Lawrence Fox posting about this quite, quite hard actually because I like,
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basically we've got a right to have a jury of white men.
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Like, like, you know, if there's going to be this kind of post liberal ethnic voting
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block politics, that's what it will end up having to come down to.
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I have to say that the institution of jury trial is an important one and I am going to
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Like the, the, the assumption that underpins a jury trial is that these people don't have
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That's likely what part of this issue with the jury trial is that you are appealing to
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in a sense, your people, because your people have the, your culture and they can judge better
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whether what you're doing in your own culture constitutes an offense or not.
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Which poses several problems for multicultural random jury picking because you don't know what
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And you don't know to what extent they are sharing your common values.
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And even now British culture is still a lot more genteel than many of the cultures these
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And so calling for people's throats to be slit, well that might be quite normal in, you know,
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Uganda or wherever, you know, but it's not normal here.
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Well, I've had this conversation with my good friend and colleague, Harrison Pitt in the
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past about how in a diverse society, you know, well, essentially the ethnic and the racial
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And the political can only really take place in an ethnically homogenous society because
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when you have an ethnically diverse society, politics becomes.
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I wouldn't say the political precedes it because no, the political is always going to happen.
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What we're dealing with here, you imagine this jury sort of, you know, you imagine an
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England that is, you know, majority, super majority English, right?
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In that sort of situation, the ethnic in-group preference of the English for an English perpetrator
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or accused doesn't, wouldn't really come through because everyone is English.
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Whereas in a diverse society, it like in this situation, for example, the ethnic preference
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of the jurors for the, you know, for the accused may come through in their decision and
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I mean, the best example of this, the OJ Simpson trial, like, sorry, some of the jurors came
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out years after the event and said, yeah, no, I voted for acquittal because he was black.
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And the thing is, like, we, we don't understand the, the, just how clannish like foreign cultures
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I had a Greek friend and not used to us, but I had a Greek friend who I was having a conversation
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I was like, look, if your cousin stole a car, would you tell the police?
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We, we are very particular about this sort of thing.
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And we, we, our clan is the entire country is basically what it comes down to.
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And your clan is absolutely not, you know, your clan is a very small group of people that
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So it's, it's like, look, we've got, we've got a bunch of people here who are just not
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I mean, that is the character our politics has now, you know, and it perverts the course
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And so because we're talking about a multicultural society that imports millions of people from
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When you're importing people from, from the entire world, you're also importing the conflicts
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So the, it seems like in this case, the conflicts of the world that have nothing to do with Britain,
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post Southport riots and demonstration in August, 2024, when this exhortation and incitement
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to violence took place, it seems like they played a part in the jury decision.
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I mean, like politically, it's going to be self evident that that area is going to be highly
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They're going to have a certain political bias because these are the client groups that
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labor not only brought in, but have been cultivating with donations, with handouts.
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And so, okay, so you've got a labor counselor who is yelling free, free Palestine, kill all
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If you've got a bunch of diehard labor voting people on the jury, well, I mean, obviously
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So we have this article here from Gov UK understanding the jury process.
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And I'm not going to read all of it, but what I want to focus on is the last bit, a fairer
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The role of jury trials remains integral to the justice system and reflects a commitment
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to fairness and accountability that dates back centuries.
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This is baked into the fabric of the universe and not the direct product of the English experience
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The core principle remains a diverse group of individuals randomly selected, coming together
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So if you receive a summons through the post, you're not merely fulfilling an obligation.
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It's an opportunity to contribute to the collective pursuit of justice and ensure a fair society
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In an ethnically homogenous society, you do want a diverse jury.
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You want, you know, you want that kind of thing.
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You want it to be a random sampling of the population.
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But the problem is, like the collective pursuit of justice and a fair society for all means
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If, you know, the collective pursuit of justice means the black guy always gets off because
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I am black, then we just don't have the same standard and we can't operate in the same
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And there has been a debate about whether this was a case of two-tier justice.
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My view, let me just tell you in a nutshell, it absolutely is a case of two-tier justice.
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Now, let me give you some examples of people who disagree with it.
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One is Jacob Rasmog, who says this is self-evidently not an example of two-tier justice as this
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Lucy Connolly offered a guilty plea, so did not have a jury trial, although she probably
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Number one, Lucy Connolly is not the only person who has been prosecuted for this.
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So, just by Jacob Rasmog showing that there have been differences between Connolly's case
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and Ricky Jones's case, it's not enough to show and infer from this that this wasn't
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But so many, so many conservatives, conservatives of a certain age, they do have this, this faith,
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this unshakable faith in process and institution.
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Sorry, just the thing, but that's the thing, isn't it?
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When Jacob Rasmog was young, the country was 95% English.
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And so he could look at the idea of the jury trial and go, no, this is actually a great
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English institution that we can put faith in because the general Englishman, the average
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Englishman in his day was a very level-headed, sensible chap who didn't particularly have
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I mean, most, I mean, even back like 20 years ago, people were just not as political in
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You know, you can reasonably, you can reasonably assume that the guy didn't know that much about
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So he was like, okay, well, what, what did he do?
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And so this, this central wall is clear by a jury as if the jury itself is beyond reproach.
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But moreover, the advice that these two different people were given would have been a different nature
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because of the kinds of things that they were engaged in.
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A labor counselor, oh, well, you know, protest, plead not guilty, blah, blah, blah.
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Lucy Connolly probably had no interaction with the courts up until this point.
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Advised by a state-appointed solicitor, just plead guilty and you'll get a light sentence.
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You know, whereas there was the Welsh former Marine, I think it was, who was like, I'm not
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Because jury of his peers from Wales, incidentally, were like, well, obviously that's not an assignment
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But that's, I mean, this is the flaw in, I mean, among many in this mindset, which is
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you plug into that, the idea that Englishness is an idea or a costume that anybody from anywhere
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And yeah, jury, you know, it is beyond reproach.
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And this is therefore not an example of two-tier justice, which is just bonkers.
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I'm sure if this was in Devon, then yeah, it'd be fine.
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I don't think a focus on process is outdated and it won't be outdated.
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What is interesting here is also that there is a persistent attempt by people like
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Jacob Rismog and some other people to hide behind legalisms and that ignores not the process side of justice, but the substantive bit of it.
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Well, it's kind of like a wet blanket for conservatives, right?
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Oh, this is a really thorny issue, but oh, thank God the jury have decided.
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Therefore, I don't need to think about this in any way.
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The process is genuinely important, but it's not infallible.
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Look at how the left is is talking when they are talking about this jury decisions when, you know, they are in trouble.
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It may be just in the on the individual level, but it's not just as far as the common good is concerned.
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But there is also the other bit that people like Rismog and his people who agree with him on this.
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They're constantly trying to say that these two cases are different, which is it's absolutely misleading.
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Every case from a legal perspective is somewhat different.
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But there are other differences as well that needed to be taken account, such as Ricky Jones didn't end his incitement to violence with for all I care.
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Like the thing is, Lucy Conley made a Facebook post, wasn't it?
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Like there's probably hardly anyone that saw it.
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We can see the people that Ricky Jones was inciting.
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I'm sure some, a small number of people will have seen it, but you don't, you can't prove that anyone was incited by that.
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You don't know what they were thinking when they saw it or anything like that.
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Everyone who saw Lucy Conley's post could have been like, no, that's wrong, Lucy.
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You don't know anything about their responses, but we know the responses from his.
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And we have this from Prospect Magazine, understanding the Lucy Connolly sentence.
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As they're saying, Connolly was arrested twice and interviewed and was charged under Section 19, Clause 1 of the Public Order Act 1996.
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Which provides a person who publishes or distributes written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence,
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if they intend thereby to stir up racial hatred or having regard to all the circumstances.
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Racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.
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She was sentenced on the grounds of a forward looking consideration, which is the political decision to send the message across that this is harmful and we're not going to we're not going to take it.
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The same consideration didn't apply on his case.
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The jurors didn't appeal to that consideration.
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They appeal to a completely backwards looking consideration such as what was his state when he did it and not only appeal to a backwards looking because sometimes I'm also in favor of of retributive justice, very much in favor of retributive justice, but they inverted it.
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Right. And they they started focusing on how to be soft on this person and how to focus on mitigating factors that absorb him or diminish his moral culpability and allegedly established that he had no criminal intention.
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It's crazy because he's a labor counselor, so he is a political agent. He holds an elected office.
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I mean, I would have thought that would come. I mean, if if the charisma of the office is anything to go by, Lucy Connelly was just a person posting on Twitter.
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She wasn't elected to anything. She doesn't have anyone who looks up to her with respect or with any kind of authority, whereas he does.
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So shouldn't he be? Shouldn't that be a mitigating factor?
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And no one mentioned of stressful conditions and impulsive behavior that could under circumstances be seen as.
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Speaking in the heat of the moment, as they have been saying for him.
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Dragon Lady Chris says, hello again, Charlie, since Luca has officially joined the large, you've been promoted to the number one spot of my favorite guests.
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A jury of 12 randomly handpicked left wing activists.
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The thing is, you don't even need left wing activists to be handpicked.
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You just randomly pick from a selection of diverse people who weren't here in the country five years ago.
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The term neurodivergent seems to describe people who have never heard of the snap of dad's belt as a child.
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Now, the thing is, right, this guy obviously knew what he was doing.
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And he obviously was just like, right, OK, how can I get out of this?
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And the lawyer was like, well, if you claim that you're basically mental, they'll let you off because they're going to be a soft touch man.
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It's just so mad that the response to somebody being like mentally unwell and calling for violence, as happened in this case, the response is to let them off free.
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We do this all the time with people who actually do physical harm to others.
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So I know we're going to say he did nothing wrong.
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And then he's just free to carry on wandering around.
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Logan says, I'd like to imagine the Dark Lord pulling his hair at the obvious escape scapegoat being thrown away.
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I think that rumors of the Dark Lord's ability to control the Labour government are vastly overstated.
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They're actually generally quite dangerous to have in your country for lots of different reasons.
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So you don't know what their prior criminal record is.
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And if you're someone who has been either alleged or convicted of a crime in a foreign country, it's entirely in your interest to get out of that country.
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And also, there's only one reason that you would come to Britain or indeed the USA illegally when it's so easy, as in the case of our country, to come legally.
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And that's because you don't want your name on the books.
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That's because you don't want the authorities knowing who you are.
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You don't want them to be able to come and get you if you're accused of a crime.
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You could live a luxury life in hotels paid by taxpayers.
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In the case of Britain and in some parts of America, you can indeed get a kind of luxury life paid for by the taxpayers.
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But the point is you're doing it because you fundamentally do not respect the country or the people in the country.
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And what you are doing, therefore, and this is in every single case, is you are coming to take advantage of those people.
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And taking advantage of those people indicates a certain kind of mindset.
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It indicates that actually you don't really care about those people.
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You don't really care about the standards, the country, the mindset, the work of generations that went into building it up.
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And you are there thinking, right, okay, I'm going to get as much as I can out of this while I can.
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And then when something goes terribly wrong, we can see that they don't care.
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We're going to talk about an example in America.
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We've got loads of examples in Britain of migrants in hotels who are just taking the piss completely.
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Just constantly pouring scorn on the British who are currently protesting everywhere about this.
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But this is an example from the United States where...
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And I'm going to play it because you can't see anything terrible, thankfully.
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But this is an accident caused by an illegal immigrant.
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So this truck driver decides in the middle of a motorway with a giant lorry that he's driving,
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he's going to try and do, I don't know, a three-point turn.
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And so obviously his gargantuan truck just turns to block the entire sort of three lanes, four lanes, however many it is.
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Now, if you're speeding down there at like 70 miles an hour or whatever it is,
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actually it's quite difficult to slow that down enough.
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And a car smashed straight into it and three people died.
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Now, people couldn't help but notice that this guy, directly after the crash,
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had absolutely no emotion on his face whatsoever.
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This seemed to him just to be an inconvenience.
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This is generally something that I personally don't care that much about.
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And it's like, okay, well, this is the problem, isn't it?
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I mean, the thing is, I mean, I don't know what the law is in America, but in Britain, if you have a driving license from a foreign country, you are allowed to come here and just drive.
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And I think you have to have a learner plate on your car.
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Like the idea that countries where there is zero driving license infrastructure, where there's no real process or standard.
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I mean, I should have got some videos of people driving in India for this segment, actually, because obviously his name's Hajinder Singh.
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So he's and he is an illegal immigrant from India.
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As you can see in this, he is listed, he has entered the United States legally.
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But the thing is, he doesn't have an Indian driving license.
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What he has is a commercial driver's license from the state of California.
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So the Californians were like, yeah, this illegal immigrant from India can just have a commercial driving license.
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I mean, I don't even know that he's got a normal driving license in America.
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And so, yeah, like like you were saying, if anyone's ever seen the roads in India and there are like the Indian traffic accidents.
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Again, I should have got these the data up for this, actually, but I've looked at it before.
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It is something like 100 times more than Britain.
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And for some reason, this guy just I mean, just it's just crazy how you can be like, no, I don't care about anyone else around me.
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I've decided I'm going the wrong way down the motorway.
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I'm not going to wait until the next, you know, junction or wherever.
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Oh, certainly demonstrates a lack of understanding of cause and effect.
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Demonstrates a lack of consideration for anyone else.
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And but again, we assume that people from other countries have the same sort of standards of consideration for the people around them that we do.
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And we know that there are countries in which they simply don't.
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I mean, there will be people who will have reacted to this story and said, well, you know, white or naturalized citizen truck drivers kill people all the time.
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But as is always the case when it's a migrant, especially egregious in the case of an illegal migrant, it's a it's a decision taken by the government directly that has led to the death of these people.
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You know, that wouldn't have happened if the person wasn't here, but you're only here because of, you know, lax policies.
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Yeah. And obviously, you had people trying to politicize this, complaining, being like, oh, well, you know, isn't this Donald Trump's fault?
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It's like, well, no, Trump's been the most anti illegal immigrant president ever.
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And of course, it's California that gets to decide this, as Grok pointed out, this this absolutely was illegal, frankly, because it says Title 13, Section 26.01 requires lawful presence to get the CDL.
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So he was given it irrespective of the fact that he was illegal.
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And of course, you're not allowed to just employ illegal immigrants, are you as truck drivers?
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You're not allowed to be here, but you're allowed to drive here.
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You're allowed to drive some sort of 30 ton truck.
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In fact, we've got a news report here from the Times of India, which is actually surprisingly detailed.
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So the fatal collision unfold around 3pm on Thursday, Tuesday, sorry, near Fort Pierce, when Singh attempted to cut across a highway through an official use medium pass.
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And this, this is another thing that was just like, look, these, these, these signs are not advisory.
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They actually mean something and they're there for a reason.
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And you've just found out why these signs are there.
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No, I just saw the video with a car just literally.
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Because he, he's traveling down a motorway because you don't expect the motorway to be blocked.
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Just honestly, I, it's, it's the first time I'm hearing about it.
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Um, so he decided that actually the official use only sign applied to other people, presumably legal citizens with licenses that they were actually legally allowed to have.
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And since he didn't have that and he wasn't a legal citizen, this wasn't his problem.
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Again, the total lack of concern on his face is just what is most remarkable and worth remembering that they, there's no reason for him to be concerned because it's not his people in the car.
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He, he knows he's not going to have any connection to the people in the car because how could he possibly?
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That's going to be an inconvenience for me, isn't it?
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Uh, photos from machine scene short showed the van torn apart.
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Emergency crews used hydraulic jacks to lift the trailer and recover the victims.
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While Singh was seen standing nearby with a black expression, which again, just, I mean, sorry, mate.
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I'm sorry that you can't feel any compassion for the people you just killed, but man, I am so not happy with the way this has gone.
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And this is, it's just one incident, but it, there are so many failures of society that have led up to this point.
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Why was he employed by a truck company to do this?
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Why did he feel it was, you know, okay for him to take that turn?
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Why did he feel that he didn't have to follow the rules?
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Like how immune to prosecution do you have to feel to have committed all of these crimes and then be like, oh, this is official use enough.
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Like, I don't, I don't need to worry about that, you know, that sign, that regulation.
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Like you have to feel that the rules just do not apply to you to get this far down.
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Well, I wouldn't be in someone else's country illegally to start with, let alone apply for licenses and work that I wasn't supposed to be doing.
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So two passengers in the minivan died instantly, but the driver was pulled alive from the wreck, but succumbed to his injuries at the local hospital.
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Authorities identified the victims as a 37-year-old woman, a 30-year-old man, and a 54-year-old man, all from Florida, because this happened in Florida.
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Investigators said Singh, who carried a California commercials driver's license, had been in the US legally since crossing the Mectum border in 2018.
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Immigrations and Customs Enforcement had issued a detainer to him, according to CBS 12.
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If convicted of homicide, he faces time in prison in Florida before deportation.
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Like, I'm sorry, deportation is not sufficient punishment for this.
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And also, like, so this happened in Florida, but he got his license from California.
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So it's not even like the people who possibly in theory voted for this kind of politics to govern their state are the victims of those policies.
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It's people who generally vote against those kinds of policies.
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And in this, we can see how the Democrats can continue destroying America, even without having control of the state.
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Florida, obviously being governed very well by Ron DeSantis, very right wing, very Republican.
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But that doesn't help if California can just rubber stamp HGV licenses for illegals coming across the border.
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Again, all of it's illegal, but there's gonna be no comeuppance for anyone.
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Like, a bunch of people should, okay, well, who issued his license?
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And now three Floridians are dead, despite the fact they probably didn't ever want this to happen.
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They probably voted in the direction they thought would go against it.
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Um, three people lost their lives because of his recklessness and countless friends and family members will experience the pain of their loss forever, says the executive director of the Florida Department of Highway Safety.
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Again, that person has no authority to rescind this guy's license.
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Like, what can he do if California is prepared to just rubber stamp licenses for illegals?
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This is the danger of employing illegals to do anything.
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They already think the rules don't apply to them.
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So why wouldn't they think other rules don't apply to them?
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Because I follow rules, like rules of the road, rules of whatever it is.
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Because I know this has an effect to the people around me.
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I mean, you know, there are Democrats certainly in the U.S. who...
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You don't hear it so much nowadays, but AOC, Ilhan Omar and others who would use the phrase, no human being is illegal.
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And it's like, okay, that's a buzzword, slogan, whatever.
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But actually, illegal behavior points to a, you know, it points to a personality, right?
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So actually, this guy was an illegal who doing illegal things.
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Because he's somebody who doesn't care about legality.
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And to add to this, there's a range of behaviors between the very combative ones and the reconciliatory ones.
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You need to have the overwhelming majority of people displaying reconciliatory behaviors.
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It's the ability to, you know, to go your own way, go separate ways when there are minor friction.
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When you have people who routinely violate the law, they show that basically I don't care about anyone around me.
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And so this is the real problem with just having illegals at large in your country.
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If you think the rules are there for a good reason, which most of them actually are.
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But those things are generally not things that most people engage with on a daily basis.
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And also, that's also the same thing in policing.
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You are supposed to protect the public and the common good.
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We always talk about, like, you know, from a right-wing perspective, well, deregulation.
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I agree that deregulation of, like, you know, in various, like, corporate areas, that's important.
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But this is not the kind of rules that people engage with on a day-to-day basis.
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As in, you know, what side of the road you're supposed to drive on and things like this.
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And this is precisely the point that I'm making here.
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Is that actually the illegals are a general threat to safety.
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I mean, back in the day, you'd hear libertarians always arguing that driving licenses are, like,
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overstepping, you know, overstepping the mark of the role of the state and infringing on one's individual liberty.
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So, anyway, yeah, he's likely to get deported, unfortunately.
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Because, again, White House spokesman, Abigail Jackson, says this is a devastating tragedy
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made worse by the fact that it was totally preventable.
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Illegal aliens have no right to be in the country.
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Certainly should not be granted a commercial driver's license.
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But who are you going to punish for this, right?
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While operating the semi-truck, he jackknife, blah, blah, blah.
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And the thing is, this probably isn't even the first time he's done this, right?
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So, this is from 2021 that you can see that the state of Arkansas had what they consider
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a historic bridge because the bridge was 80 years old.
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So, Arkansas have filed a lawsuit against truck driver Harindja Sin in Bakersfield,
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California-based trucking company, US CityLink Corp.
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Maybe he needs to be given with all the social benefits.
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Make him a driver because it's good for his social, his self-esteem.
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Yeah, but the thing is, right, the suit was for pressing for funds to repair damage caused
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by SING, but they also want punitive damages because he reportedly hauling a load of processed
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chicken to Danville when his GPS device led him to the Dale Bend Bridge.
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There were signs posted at the bridge warning the driver about the six-ton weight limit,
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but Singh attempted to cross the bridge anyway with his 38-ton truck.
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So, again, the signage is not arbitrary, and if you ignore it, bad things happen.
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It's there for your own good, and for the good of others.
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I've got to say, the closest I've come to this is, and everyone, I think everyone will
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You'll be driving somewhere, maybe you're running a little bit late, and you'll come to
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a road that your sat nav is taking you down, and it says road ahead closed.
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And then, lo and behold, the road is closed, so you have to turn around and go a different
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But imagine that mindset sort of transposed onto the kind of person who doesn't care,
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you know, who thinks that doing a U-turn in a 30-tonne semi-truck on a busy motorway
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Or just, well, don't drive across this antique bridge with more than six tonnes, because
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Now, you know, luckily in this instance, no one was hurt.
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It's not just, I don't know, you know, some sort of arbitrary government oppression or something.
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This is a, it's a description of reality, actually, the sign.
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Just, I'm going to be extremely uncharitable here.
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Sometimes people pretend they're stupid and they want to do something really evil.
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So, the question is, was all the merchandise looted?
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Because it could be the case, he says, guys, I'm going to do something incredibly cheap.
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Well, I think another, I mean, another take is maybe the guy doesn't speak English.
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Possibly, but I suspect he probably does speak English.
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That's a weird understanding of time and space.
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I think that basically, there's just a much lower consideration for other people in the culture in which he comes from, frankly.
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And I think that also, there's a kind of self-selection bias if you're going to allow illegals to break in.
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Well, you're going to get a really high percentage of people in that cohort who just don't care.
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And you can tell I don't care about you because I broke into your country.
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And then whenever I'm supposed to follow the rules that benefit other people, like not destroying a historic bridge, I don't care about that.
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Or like not like, you know, getting three people killed in a fatal crash.
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And you can see it written on his face as it happens.
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Maybe we're reading too far into that, but it's just, it's just a, you know, the contempt.
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I honestly, I don't think people are wrong to read into it.
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You know, I don't think they are wrong to read into it because I do think it's symptomatic.
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And the thing is, this, this is the least harmful kind of illegal immigrant as well.
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He's just here to get money to send remittances back to India probably.
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That's, that's the least harmful kind of illegal immigrant, frankly.
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And you, I mean, you hear like in the UK, for example, like people in the green party, like Carla Denya saying, actually, it's a great injustice that we don't allow asylum seekers to work when they come here.
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And the standards maintain the safety and dignity of the country.
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And if we allow people to flaunt them, then things go horribly wrong and people die.
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So anyway, the point of this is detain and deport every single illegal.
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In his mind, he's thinking, this isn't my fault.
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This happens all the time back home and no one cares.
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Honestly, I couldn't say on the segment because, you know, it's going on YouTube, but I really
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Well, I think, I mean, you know, there's so many factors at play.
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I mean, just the sheer population of that country.
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It does something psychological where human life just has less value.
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It's the same in China where you hear like, you know, people being run over and people
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Like kid gets run over and no one stops to help.
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So, you know, a little bit of a precursor, but you know, it's non-Christian, it's non-Christian
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It's just, it's also, I think it's, I think it's more than that.
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I think it's about connection to the people in the place.
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This, this, this guy was basically here to exploit.
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Um, uh, arch covered this in the arch cast last night.
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Truly the actions of an esteemed doctor or engineer.
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I've heard, uh, by the way, you need to get arch on low seas one of these days.
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Well, if he ever comes over to England, I will.
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Uh, Matt says California legally gave out thousands of commercial drive illegally gave
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Car insurance rates have gone through the roof in the US.
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Uh, there are people on the US roads who can't speak or read English.
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You get to get, you know, lie in it, but this is something that is handing it out.
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Uh, Logan says as California commercial truck driver, please don't let me in with him.
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I'm sure you weren't just given it as an act of charity by the States.
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Um, uh, but yeah, you and your coworkers have standards.
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Uh, Joseph says I've heard that Canada has a huge problem with Indian commercial truck drivers as well.
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Well, again, like I should have, I wish I'd got the Indian statistics up for the segment.
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Um, and you see these cars, literally, you've got like wagons with people hanging on the side.
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They're just swerving around on like, you know, the edge of a cliff.
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And you're just like, how does anyone survive any journey in India?
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It's just crazy, but there's no, no thought for the safety of themselves or others.
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And I guess it comes down to the kind of fatalistic reincarnation philosophy, right?
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It's like, well, I'm not really happy with this incarnation.
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Maybe I'll get reincarnated as something better.
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Um, so a recent YouGov survey has found that 37% of 18 to 24 year olds now say they believe in a God,
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So you can see this was reported in the Telegraph.
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Um, and the same show, the same poll showed that atheism among that same demographic has
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So there's a substantial increase in religiosity among Gen Z, among young people.
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Um, a study by the Bible Society, which was published in April of this year, found that
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last year around 12% of adults attended church at least once a month, which is up from 8% in
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So it's still a relatively small number of people, but it's a, it's a substantial increase
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Um, and at the, you know, at the, you know, tip of the spear is young men, uh, with over
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a fifth of 18 to 24 year old, uh, men attending church at least once a month, which is a, which
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is a huge increase from the 4%, uh, in that demographic in 2018.
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Um, and women in the same group are, uh, sort of following a similar trend of increasing
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church attendance, um, with the research identifying, uh, Roman Catholic and Pentecostal churches
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Um, and I find that quite interesting cause that's, I mean, I'm a Catholic and we're going
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Um, and it is because of the, you know, I think for a long time, the church, uh, in the face
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of like the new atheists who were arguing people out of faith, the church tried to hug people
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back into faith by being a little bit trying to modernize and having a kind of happy clappy
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guitar strumming type of Christianity that I think a lot of people, certainly my age
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and I would imagine your age as well, associate Christian faith with.
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And so when we encounter a kind of traditional Latin Roman Catholic mass, it's something quite
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Um, it's kind of got, it's got all the bells and whistles if you want.
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And it doesn't, it doesn't, you don't feel pandered to, and you don't feel insulted by
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And it's actually that, that I think a lot of young people are crying out for.
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They are crying out for authenticity and depth of experience and not to be, you know, insulted
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by somebody thinking that what they need is a kind of happy clappy, you know, very superficial
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So there are now over 2 million more people attending church in Britain than there were
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So this is, you know, because the part of this story is the demographic element of it, because
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obviously we've had an influx of people from other cultures with other faiths.
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Um, this same, well, the census data shows that Britain's Muslim population has increased
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in the past decade from 2.7 million in 2011 up to 3.9 million in 2021.
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So part of this growth in religiosity will certainly be driven by immigration and driven
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by, uh, migrant descended, uh, you know, families, uh, and this sort of thing.
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But in absolute numbers, there is a huge number of people attending Christian churches, um,
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which I view as a very good thing as a Christian.
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And Carl, I know you went to church yesterday, which I was pleased to see.
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Um, it's, yeah, my, yeah, I'm, I might be an atheist, but I don't want my kids to be.
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Well, because honestly, I just think that, so I've told the story before, but like basically,
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uh, when, when I took my oldest son to be christened and then my others, uh, I noticed
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that my dad was really enjoying the ceremony, right?
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He was really enjoying singing the hymns and, uh, just being in the church.
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So I, I thought about this and I realized what it was.
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Uh, like he's an atheist, but he, for him, this was now a nostalgia, right?
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He's going back to a time in his childhood where, you know, his parents would make them
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go to church every Sunday and it reminds him of a time when the world was more simple
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and more safe and more normal and like more wholesome.
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I don't get any nostalgia for churches because my parents never made me go to church.
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And I think that actually the, the belief in God is, is less important than the experience
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So I, I, you know, I'm not going to, you know, browbeat my kids to believe in God or anything,
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but I want them to know that this is the sort of traditional English thing to do on a Sunday.
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So I don't have any feelings one way or another actually towards it.
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You know, like I should have nostalgic feelings of being bored in church.
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It was, you know, if you, if you're bored in church, great.
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You've, that's a privilege, frankly, to be bored in the modern era.
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So if you get to be bored for an hour or two on Sunday mornings, not the end of the world.
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And then when you're older, you'll at least have really fond memories of that being something you did as a family.
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She was like, well, maybe we should start going to a church.
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I mean, I'm going to get a little bit into, if you'll indulge me, my own lived experience with this, with this question.
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Cause I think it is illustrative of the experience of a lot of young people.
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Um, because another statistic that came out of this research was that around a third of 18 to 24 year olds, uh, who do not attend church on a regular basis said that they would go if they were invited by a friend.
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So that's, that's the sort of thing I'm talking about.
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It's, it's not, it's not about the religiosity necessarily.
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It's about the cultural experience of doing it.
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Like another problem I've had is like modern churches.
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The one I went to, uh, you know, the guys walking around burning incense and singing harmonies with a choir and stuff like that.
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And I was like, okay, well, this is just a really nice experience.
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Even if, you know, I don't, you know, get anything religious out of it.
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And the, the echoing of the, the voices throughout the church because of the way the church is built.
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Like it's very harmonious and it was just very, very pleasant.
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And it's, it's that sort of, again, it's kind of a feeling of nostalgia that you're tapping back into.
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And like with mine, I just wanted my children to at least say, well, I had to go to church, but then when they get their kids baptized, at least they'll enjoy the thing and they'll understand why they're there.
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I went to a church of England primary school and the church that was associated with the school, um, at the time was very much, uh, the, the former sort that you were talking about, that it was trying to appeal to us and trying to be kind of cool.
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That is the moral instruction that will help me on the day to day basis.
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When I went on Sunday, the guy was like, yeah, Jesus said, I'm here to bring division.
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You know, that's, that's, that's not happy clappy, like, can buy our stuff.
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It was, it was a pandering, supine, you know, deeply uncool form of Christianity.
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I was raised with at school and my parents are, you know, my parents are not churchgoers,
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but they're the kind of people that if you ask them, they will say that they're Christians
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because I think it's a, there's a, there's a distaste for calling oneself an atheist.
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I think among certain people, which I do understand because there is a coldness and a hopelessness
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I think in a lot of people's eyes, but nevertheless, I was an atheist during much of my childhood
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I think it was a, I thought it was a stupid thing for stupid people.
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And I basically, my takeaway from school, my religious education at school and my kind
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of experience of church at school was that the Bible was basically like happy little
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stories about happy little people doing happy little things in a way that was really like
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these, this is just fiction that I, and it's just like, it's just nonsense basically.
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So I was, you know, militant atheist, big fan of, you know, your Richard Dawkins,
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It was never really something I thought about that much, but I just was.
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And then I went to university and about, about 19 during lockdown, I was, you know,
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And so there was a lot of sort of, you know, introspection, sort of, you know, contemplation,
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listening to a lot of people like Jordan Peterson.
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And it was around that time I started to think in a somewhat religious way.
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Do you think that this is reflective, representative of a lot of Zoomers experience?
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Well, in, in, in, in this research and in the coverage of it, lockdown is noted as being
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a very, very, as being a real inflection point for this trend.
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And I don't think it's surprising because, you know, we were, there was nothing else to
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And, and I think people were racked with, many people were racked with fear, depression,
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And so it's no surprise that people went searching for meaning in other places.
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I know I did, you know, and that, and that's largely what led me to faith basically, because
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I wouldn't have called myself a Christian at this time.
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I was more given to a kind of a perennial view, which is like all religions are, they
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point towards the existence of the same fundamental reality.
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And they're all equally valid routes to, you know, to, to a kind of transcendent experience.
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Um, which I don't, I don't believe any more incidentally, because I was thinking in what
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I have now come to realize was a very Catholic way.
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I was thinking in a very black and white way about reality, morality, beauty, goodness,
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I felt that there was, I was totally opposed and remain totally opposed to relativism, um,
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which was a large part of my university experience because I was educated and, you know, in that
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institution by postmodernists, by people who were atheists, didn't believe in objective
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You know, all actions are essentially, you know, there's no, there's no, there's no
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And, and that is just a totally disempowering nihilistic view of the world, um, which just
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And I think it's bouncing off of a lot of young people, especially young men who feel
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within, you know, within the depths of their soul that there is a fundamental reality that
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we, that we can interface with if we are open to it.
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So I wonder how much of this is actually a revolt against the concept of freedom.
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Because the, every, everything that you're saying there, the whole, the whole purpose of
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the relativistic universe is to make people maximally free from, honestly, normative moral
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And I think that's actually a very unhealthy way to live.
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And I think one, I think it's the Catholic church in particular that appeals to a lot of
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young people because they have strict rules and hierarchy.
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And I, I really think that this is about, there's a kind of, I don't want to say yearning,
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A kind of soulful, yeah, longing for structure and order.
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And I, and I really think this is where the right, this is where all the conservatives
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have completely left the field because the liberals are going, well, why should we?
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It's like, okay, well, without God, the conservative has a very difficult time actually articulating
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And we're going to get into that because that's, I do want to, I mean, I don't want to get too
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kind of deep because I realize this is just a daily podcast, but there is, there's points
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Um, so to finish my kind of story, you know, I attended a Latin Catholic mass with a friend
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of mine, uh, because she was going and I was driving her to the place and she was like,
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And the priest was there banging on the lectern, talking about the shifting sands of liberalism
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And I was sitting there kind of like, okay, you know, really resonated with me.
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And so, and so I, yeah, I started to, you know, so I started to pursue this, you know,
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this sort of, uh, this tradition and understand more about it.
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Started attending a Catholic church, had the great pleasure of getting to know my local priest,
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who is an amazing, you know, deeply wise man, um, who has become something of a mental figure
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And a large part of it is because of what you just said, which is that I, you know,
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and, and everybody my age has been educated to believe that the substance of life is to
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be found in the limitless pursuit of self-expression and individual kind of growth, whatever that
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That's the accumulation of wealth or the accumulation of experience.
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The idea, for example, that you wouldn't, you don't start a family until you've lived
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I mean, it basically just means like traveling and partying, which sure is maybe fun for a
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couple of weeks, but it's, but it's not, but it's not, you know, it's not a real, it's
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a, it's not a deep form of meaning and it gets old very quickly.
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And that kind of hedonistic lifestyle, it's just no way to live.
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I mean, I, I sort of, when I was at university again, as many people do, because this is the lifestyle
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culture that is encouraged at university, you do engage in that kind of thing.
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And I very quickly realized that this is no way to live.
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Like unironically, there are pictures of him in university partying.
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And it's just, and it's just not, you know, it's, it's not fulfilling and it's, and it's
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It makes you feel empty and it makes you feel without substance and without rooting.
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Uh, and that, and, and, and, you know, so many people wonder why depression and anxiety
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I think it is because of this is because of this rootlessness.
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And this really, I think is the, the sort of end point of the liberal view of freedom.
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And so I'm actually not that surprised that Gen Z are like, okay, but I would like some
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And again, I don't want to get too down in the weeds with this, but I think, but I
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think that this is crucial to understand because this explains in my view, why Christianity
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and particularly, particularly Catholicism is growing at such a rate in Britain and why young
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And that is because the story of the Bible is not just happy little stories about happy
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Like I thought it was when I was growing up, it is actually a description of the structure
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of the universe, a perfectly accurate description of the structure of the universe.
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And as somebody who was already thinking that there clearly is an interconnectedness, a oneness
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to reality that cannot be explained through the quantitative means and language of science,
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And especially, you know, rejecting as I was at that time, the culture of individual freedom
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When I encountered these ideas, it just makes perfect sense to me.
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So I've taken this from a book called A Father Who Keeps His Promises by Scott Hahn, which
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is a brilliant exploration of the Bible and what the story of the Bible actually is.
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It's about a father who makes promises to his children and follows through on those promises.
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And so what this diagram here describes is how each of the prophets of the Bible, each
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of the central figures of the Bible represent a different level, essentially of human organization
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So in the figure of Adam, you have the covenant of marriage.
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And his role in that covenant is as the husband, right?
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And then in Noah, he is the role of the father and he institutes the family or the household.
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In particular, the sort of protective father as well, right?
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Abraham is the figure of the chieftain, the leader of the tribe, you know,
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who God promises a great nation to and promises to spread his seed across the world
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Moses is the judge and the leader of the nation in the, you know, the 12 tribes of
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Well, he's the lawgiver who instances justice among the Israelites.
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Then you have David who turns the nation of Israel into the kingdom of Israel under his,
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So in the, like I'm, I, so through, through my philosophy degree, I got really into aesthetics
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and part of aesthetics is storytelling and archetypes.
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And these archetypes really are meaningful, right?
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Because in the figure of David in particular, you have not only the, the, what, what the,
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the king of the nation is the politicization of the nation against other nations.
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It's, it's not just, they are under the heel of Pharaoh or whatever it is.
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Uh, but, but from this, David creates an empire.
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Um, and so the line of David becomes the prestigious thing that Jesus comes from the,
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the, again, the, the, the connection to the prestige, to the, the, the political power
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that is created by the just order of the nation.
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So all of these things, like you don't have to look at them religiously.
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Cause I know there are going to be a bunch of people watching and go, okay, I'm not really
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The answer is the archetypes I think are what you're talking about as they are real.
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Whether you're a believer and regardless of how they come about.
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But this, this is the point is I was argued into Christianity.
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Like I, I, and I, and I came to believe that a lot of what I thought of as being irrational
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about religion is actually what I would call post rational existing in the realm beyond
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rationality, as opposed to before rationality cannot be understood through science.
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And so it requires a different type of sense, which is faith.
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And so, you know, I was like last year, I was at the point where I was reading these
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stories and understanding these ideas from a rational, essentially atheistic perspective.
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I was kind of, I was what you'd call a cultural Christian.
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I thought, okay, the ideas work and they seem to be kind of true in a sense.
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And so it seems to make sense that we govern our society along these lines.
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But what the leap of faith actually is, is not, it's, you know, I believed at that time
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that these were something like the closest approximation to the truth.
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And that the Bible was kind of the closest we've got to moral reality, to, to, to painting
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But what faith is, is recognizing that it's not just the closest to it, it is actually the
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So Jesus is not just a guy who got it nearly right when it comes to morality.
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And that's, and that's what, and that's, you know, obviously you start to lose people
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at this point because people think you're talking nonsense, but that's what faith actually
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And the thing is there, there are going to be a bunch of people who aren't going to be
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But the, the, the, the, the, the archetypal structures that you're presenting here, I think
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And even if that's all you take from this, that's better than nothing.
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And nothing is what mainstream culture offers us.
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The, the, the, the liberal order would have that there are no archetypal values.
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There is no right difference between right and wrong.
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But this also provides a good sort of framework as to why Muhammad doesn't fit, why he's obviously
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Because what, what does Muhammad as a barbarian warlord bring to this?
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What's the covenant that God makes with Muhammad?
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I'm not going to alliterate it, but it's, it's not good.
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And it doesn't fit into the, the ascendant processions.
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So like, you know, like I said, I'm not, I'm not a religious person, but I can see the
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It's understanding the world through these kinds of archetypal frameworks.
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Because they represent what is true about human relationships and the way that we interact
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And so the fundamental case here is that these human structures like marriage, family, tribe,
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nation, kingdom, and church are not arbitrary emergent phenomena with no sort of implicit or,
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They are actually ordained by God created from a top down perspective.
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And it is in our, you know, it is man's role in the same way that the role of a tree is
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to grow and all trees follow that, you know, that pathway because they don't have free will.
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We have free will, but our role as humans is to follow these structures and to embrace
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these structures and to recognize that we are part of a divine order that is hierarchical
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in nature and that we have a kind of unique place in.
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And that, and it's that idea that the liberal world order just cannot count.
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But the thing is, even, even if you're like, you know, purely materialistic atheist, you,
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you can still come to these conclusions because these are normative aspects of the universe.
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So you think that was created by God or it was, you know, brought into being through natural
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processes or whatever it is, they're still there.
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This is what C.S. Lewis is calling the Tao, right?
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It's like, look, this, this is just the structure of the universe in relation to what you are.
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So regardless of how you think they get there, there's no doubt that humans are hierarchical
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So, you know, the, and each hierarchy has a normative component to it.
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So you can, you can object to the theology of it all you like, but this as a, as a conceptual
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And so what, you know, and then I think the, the next step to this is to look at this,
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to recognize that the Bible and the stories of the Bible and the historical figures described
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in the Bible and the experiences that they had, you know, and the way in which God in
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the Bible institutes all of these different, um, institutions, I suppose, of marriage,
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family, tribe, nation, kingdom, and church is to look at the order beneath which we live
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today, the moral, political, and economic order that's existed since 1945.
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Note the fact that it explicitly takes aim at each and every one of these structures,
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and we can name the policies and the ideas and the principles that do so.
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So marriage, for example, we have gay marriage, feminism, the idea that the sexes are perfectly
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I mean, that's a direct attack on Adam's moral authority.
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And of course, pornography, which debases the marital act, turns it into a product,
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Then you have marriage and once again, and then you have family.
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And also, with Noah as the protector, it's interesting how the police will arrest you
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for interceding in, like for example, the guy who had his trousers down the other day
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and the dudes beat him up and chucked him off the train.
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That's a direct attack on the archetype of Noah.
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You also have capitalism in its modern form, which forces both men and women to work.
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But part of the role of the father is to work, right?
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Yeah. Well, when I say work, I mean going out of the house and hunting and gathering.
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I don't want to suggest that being a housewife isn't at all work.
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But again, it's forcing men and women to compete with one another,
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which is not, that's not a good foundation for a family.
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And you then again have this championing and mainstreaming of what get called alternative lifestyles,
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LGBT and all the rest of it, which pushes the notion that-
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The idea that all lifestyles are equal, which they are not.
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And if for no other reason than heterosexual marriage produces children,
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and you need children for a society to continue.
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Then you get to the tribe, which is, of course, instituted in the figure of Abraham.
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And it's here that you get into the truly, I think, most controversial territory of all of these,
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which is the concept of racism and the concept of anti-racism as being a moral good.
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It's an attack on the notion of tribe, the denial of ethnicity,
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the denial of in-group preference along those lines, the pushing of diversity.
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This is all an attack on the divine structure of the tribe.
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You know, and that's why I think largely that's why so much of modern politics is so loopy is,
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you know, we've attacked, we attack these divine structures and we expect things to just be fine.
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We expect things to be better, actually, or our leaders do at least.
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Then you have the nation, and it's quite obvious what the attack on that is.
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You know, it's the deconstruction of the nation.
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But also, it's interesting that the laws themselves,
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notice how everything that Blair did was always contrary to,
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and everything Labour has done from the 20th century onwards,
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was contrary to the inherited laws of the English.
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Abolish the death penalty, open the borders, have all of these interceding moments
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where the state intercedes between relationships, hate speech laws, all this sort of stuff.
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You know, all of this is just antithetical to how the nation itself should be judged.
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And then you move on to the kingdom, and the primary attack on the kingdom is,
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And a system that selects for, selects in favour of liars,
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and those who can most effectively lie to the public,
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and therefore, when they're in office, continue to behave in a dishonest way,
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And then finally, you have the church as the ultimate universal structure of,
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And the principal attack on that is the entire culture,
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the entirety of the culture, which is, you know, rooted in the worship of the self.
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You know, because really, if you read, for example, St. Augustine's The City of God,
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you kind of realise that there's basically two things that you can worship in this life.
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You can worship God, or you can worship yourself.
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And worshipping anything other than God tends inevitably towards worshipping the self,
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whether that's money, or fame, or a hedonistic lifestyle.
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All of it is in pursuit of the worship of the self.
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And that, really, the worship of the self, is the principle that underpins the entirety
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of the modern moral paradigm beneath which we live.
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Because, and you can see this most clearly, of course, in the culture of the 60s,
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and in the boomers, you know, the lifestyles they live.
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It's not exactly true. You don't have to argue for it. It's completely unfortunate.
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Yeah, yeah. And especially, for example, in the figure of John Lennon,
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and in two of his songs, Imagine and God, those are two songs that celebrate the worship of the self
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as being, you know, and the destruction of these structures.
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Oh, left-wing, oh, activism these days is the worship of the self.
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You know, it's recognise me. I need representation. I need recognition. I need, it has to be me.
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And it's not a coincidence. It's like a black woman saying, you know, Black Lives Matter.
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Yeah, yeah. And so I will conclude there, because I know we're running out of time.
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But the point I'm making here is that the most radical thing that you can do as a young man
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and as a young person in the 21st century is embrace faith, is embrace Christian faith.
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Because all of the power structures that govern our societies since 1945 have taken explicit aim at all of the structures that Christianity seeks to create and to defend.
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There's a question I have here because I'm focusing on what you're saying.
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So it's one thing. I'm going to be very tough, right?
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Okay. So I don't care about what people are saying.
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All this could be overcompensating against the New Atheist movement.
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I think it's really important to look at how society will fare in the future.
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Because for me, it's mostly about how someone actually...
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And it's an issue of unmediated question of how you relate with what you consider to be divine.
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And this is why, in my view, the actual, the faith itself, the genuine, like authentic belief in God, you know, the idea that there is a creator, that the universe was created, that there is a will that underpins all of reality.
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That's why that is crucial as part of this equation.
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Because if you genuinely believe, as I do, that God is essentially watching you at all times and judging every move you make, it does force you to behave in a certain way.
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And when you stray that path, when you sin, then you feel very guilty about it and you pray for forgiveness.
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But even if you don't have a literal faith, taking this as a metaphorical truth about the universe and human society, I think is valuable in and of itself.
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Because, I mean, I was a big believer in the idea of metaphorical truth, again, sort of about a year ago.
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But now I just believe in truth, you know, a full stop.
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Alex says, let's sum up going to the Labour councillor.
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His defence is that he's had mental issues and made him unable to express himself in a responsible way, yet, one presumes, still has a glittering career ahead of him as a councillor representing locals in his area in an even-handed manner.
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Yeah, I don't think it's going to stop his career in the Labour Party that he called for people to have their throats lit.
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It's just not going to be the case, because they just don't care.
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Holding down the power button used to turn off a phone, but on my new phone it brings up an AI assistant and I have to tell it to turn off the phone, at which point it brings up the power options menu.
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I need an AI's permission to turn off my own phone.
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Flemingway is finally due to open again this year after its closure in 2022 for development.
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It was supposed to take two years, instead it's taken three.
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Can anyone in the Lotus Eaters office see any improvement?
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Wiltshire Police is being sued for appearing at the Swindon Emotional Pride 2025.
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If this is an option, why aren't we all doing it for every event they're at?
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Uh, there is actually improvement on that bus depot station area.
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It's just, it's just a road that goes around the pavement.
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The thing is, the idea, because there are those who accuse, like, who say, well, you're
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a Christian, how can you be opposed to mass immigration?
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That's well because it's an attack on the nation, which is a divine structure.
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Also, one thing that isn't talked about many times is that one of the first arguments
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And after the Treaty of Tordesillas in, about Latin America.
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No, much after because the Portuguese started the slave trade after 1494.
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yeah and like all of the arguments in the sort of age of sale against slavery came from the
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christians like long before the liberals yeah you know there's no getting around it sorry let's go
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to the next one it arrived and i have the full set very nice um yeah well i'll be coming to
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australia later this year also thanks sophie for talking about the illustrations for my next kids
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book it's going to be amazing i think you're all going to love it and i'm also helping sophie
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publish her book as well about halfway through editing it for her and then we're going to get
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some really nice cover art and going to blast it out everywhere so keep an eye out i will get a copy
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but yeah so um i'll be coming to australia at some point this year uh unfortunately because i hate
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traveling um but uh yeah so come and see me basically um right jimbo says ricky jones the
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postboy from the entire critical justice uh social justice movement much like timekeeping
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and mathematics expecting him not to incite baying mobs to slip the throats of their enemies
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is actually us imposing colonial standards on him thing is that's probably true it's probably
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literally true um they're arguing that diversity simply can't cope with living in the western world
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because it applies to basic standards is what they're saying yeah that that is what they're
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saying and that's that's probably true um there are a lot of uh rumble rants about uh me going to
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church uh i'm gonna ignore them for now sorry guys uh the videos by reese mog and the black belt
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barrister made me realize that tutor justice also shows up in the details of exactly what charges are
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made it seems that if you disagree with the agenda or critical of the government you are likely to be
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charged differently than if you're a good little lefty yeah that's another thing as well like it's not
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that we can explicitly quantify it but you can feel the lightness of justice that's applied to them
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can't you you know and it's like look man you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say that this is the most
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solid argument but i just don't agree you know i just don't agree that this is a level playing field
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and you're not going to persuade me otherwise frankly again the fact that lucy conley is still in jail
01:21:52.460
it's like the the state has been so intransigent on the issue yeah so there are so many mitigating
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factors that a state that wasn't hostile to the native population would just take into account
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and they're the ones complaining oh the prisons are totally full okay well then
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is she a danger to anyone yeah obviously not well she's she's a danger to the ideology of the state
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that's exactly it that the moral legitimacy of the state she's a danger to which makes her more
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dangerous than the criminals who are not a threat to the ideology of the state so soviet yeah i know
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it's a cliche no no it totally is though yeah jimbo says according to someone i know despite the fact
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that we've seen all the evidence with our own eyes the jury may have had access to privilege and
01:22:29.980
information which makes this what we've seen not an offense uh well that's i mean i think it's
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actually just interpretive of what has happened right because they said it just wasn't inciting
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violence um they did they were they were passing judgment on the same uh video that we saw yeah it's
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not there was i don't think there's anything new uh roman observer says a diverse jury will never work
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the concept of a jury of peers requires a homogenous society yeah yes correct also the laws in question
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only belong to the english not the immigrant community so they're going to recognize the crime
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at all well that's the that's the point isn't it you know if if this is just normal in the society
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that they come from which i know that it is uh then what are we doing i gotta say i mean this is
01:23:15.120
pretty controversial i think in from the from a mainstream perspective yeah but this does show you
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why the entire project of decolonization was just such a has been such a failure because we thought
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we we behaved as if you know we built these structures in these countries and now that we've
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given them you know given those peoples those structures once we leave things will just tick
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along indefinitely and be fine and did you see the video of the indian politician the really fat one
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handing out money for people to vote for yeah i know driving around he's really fat he's just
01:23:40.080
handing out rupees out of the car so people vote for him it's like listen man there's just no point in
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saying indian democracy yeah this is not how india governed itself prior to the british you should
01:23:50.400
team up with a guy selling the food you know the really yeah yeah yeah the ready one yeah yeah
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sponsorship yeah yeah slop in every pot um slop masala oh god and it's it's the same everywhere
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though it's literally everywhere outside of essentially northwestern europe like i was i was
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explaining to people like like i don't really trust the integrity of like eastern european elections
01:24:16.460
you know yeah i'm sorry i just don't trust the ukrainian elections yes we're not dealing with
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english people exactly i mean maybe maybe in france and germany i believe it you know maybe in spain
01:24:27.040
portugal maybe you know in italy maybe even in greece but like uh you know outside of that i just don't
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think that these people like consider political power to be negotiated in the way that we do
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you know they they would rather essentially what come down to clan structures and say okay well
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i'm not here to change their minds on that no you know definitely natural exactly yeah and that's the
01:24:50.760
thing i actually feel the way we live is quite natural to us yes actually and the the the incredible
01:24:55.760
low rate of corruption in what was a homogenous english nation was a remarkable thing absolutely
01:25:02.800
remarkable you know like i had never heard of people uh cheating in elections until
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i was well into my 30s and i heard about what was happening in leicester yeah exactly right it just
01:25:14.880
it was unthinkable like unthinkable the idea of like bribing a cop i remember the i i used to work
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um for the research councils my boss had spent time in africa uh you put setting up computers or
01:25:26.640
something and he told me about just multiple times where they just had to bribe cops let them go
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because the cops just pull you over and you've done nothing wrong let's wait for a bribe and i was just
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like that's horrific that's horrific i could never live in a country i can't even imagine trying to
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bribe a british mob i mean offering money like i'd expect i mean you get arrested for it like i would
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expect to be arrested for that anyway alex says um i won't be able to watch the immigration driver
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section so this in advance i'm not defending the man but i've worked with a number of indians and
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they tend to clam up when confronted with a serious situation well maybe if they don't cause
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serious situations yeah clamming up won't be such a problem um it could do illegal things yeah
01:26:08.280
exactly you can come across a lack of concern the japanese smiling in an embarrassing situation
01:26:12.300
doesn't mean they're happy with it yeah i mean that could well be the case don't get me wrong
01:26:15.600
but the way that that comes across to the people you're taking advantage of uh is very negative
01:26:21.280
the ghost of enoch says in china if someone's hit by a car it's common for the driver to reverse
01:26:25.340
over them to finish them off this is because they are liable to pay the victim compensation for the
01:26:28.900
rest of their life they live jesus christ dark yeah the penalty for vehicular manslaughter is less
01:26:33.960
it's mad kevin says in 2023 in india oh yeah right yeah sorry i did look up the stats right
01:26:41.720
so um the the indian stats are insane uh so in the uk uh we have uh say in 2023 a thousand six hundred
01:26:52.220
95 road deaths and 28 976 serious injuries with 110 000 slight injuries right in india they had
01:26:59.440
480 000 road accidents which uh equates to something like 474 fatalities a day and when you put this
01:27:07.840
down to per capita so per 100 000 in the uk we have an accident rate of 2.4 to 2.7 india has 15 to 17
01:27:16.600
yeah so again per 100 000 so the absolute numbers are insane and i mean literally like
01:27:24.340
you know eight times what ours are absolutely mad uh uh so he gives kevin's in thailand at the moment
01:27:32.140
he says uh so in thailand there were 20 000 fatalities and the population of thailand is 71 million
01:27:38.240
so it's roughly on parity with britain yeah whereas we had 1 600 so it's absolutely insane like the
01:27:45.680
again we just assume that everyone has the same standards as us everywhere and we've seen this in
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like healthcare and like the the african nurses who are constantly like accidentally killing patients
01:27:56.280
yeah like all of these things are just these are not universal things that other countries you know
01:28:01.180
they can have a department of motor vehicles or health or whatever but that the internal structure
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of this thing and the function of this thing is not the same yes chance from canada says my wife's car
01:28:12.100
got swiped by an immigrant truck driver when she was parked and she wasn't in it the driver was
01:28:16.400
delivering to a nearby immigrant owned restaurant we noticed quickly that she spoke to the owner of
01:28:20.000
the restaurant to see if she received any deliveries and he lied to her face about not receiving deliveries
01:28:23.740
that day we obtained the security camera footage of the delivery truck dragging her car across the
01:28:28.040
parking lot they all must go it's like this is just a problem ramshackalotta says an african nurse got
01:28:36.140
drunk in a park after a shift off and drove his mercedes benz down my mom's 30 mile an hour speed
01:28:41.800
limit road at 70 miles an hour crashed into a family home and knocked it an inch off its footings
01:28:46.200
he was spared jail because the judge says the amount he gives back to the community is immense
01:28:49.920
such his name simba chimba apparently mad when did that become like a legally acceptable reason yeah i'm
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i'm insane someone off i know you're from a foreign country i know you're insane it's not even that
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the amount he gives back to the community is immense what does that even mean he enriches them
01:29:07.000
with diversity yeah it was a white community yeah he's diverse uh white rider says as an atheist
01:29:12.200
myself personally i feel the actual faces faith is less important but the church is important for
01:29:16.720
cultural and moral reasons i'm not the faith everything else goes yeah i foundation i i am
01:29:22.300
sympathetic to that argument as well because like essentially this this is an argument that i've i've
01:29:27.860
heard people across essentially why can't we just live a lie and it's like because
01:29:32.180
anyone at any point can say but aren't we all lying is it'll be the emperor's new clothes yeah
01:29:36.660
right and you know aren't we all lying and everyone goes yeah we are all lying and so the whole thing
01:29:39.880
will just collapse it just takes one person to do it but this is the fact you know this is the leap
01:29:43.740
of faith is is moving from it works to it's true and again i think metaphorically and structurally
01:29:50.620
it's true or maybe it's just true daniel says modern messages of start your family after you've lived
01:29:58.500
your life is perverse yeah it is starting your family that you discover what it is to truly live
01:30:02.560
and what does that even mean to live you to live one's life and then settle down and start a family
01:30:06.660
be childish and irresponsible yeah that's what it means um and it's there's no there's no great
01:30:11.340
advantage to it yeah honestly it's just wasting money frankly like like p like even if you were the
01:30:17.600
most heartless materialist you can still look at your own children as an investment yeah you know
01:30:22.860
like even if you're the most sort of cold callous materialist you would still have an aspect where
01:30:28.860
you oh you know my children will at least be something that produces for me later in life
01:30:33.660
yeah what a cruel thing to look at say but yeah it's it's you could still look at it that way just
01:30:37.900
to be like no i'm just gonna piss my my money away on alcohol and partying it's like right so you're
01:30:42.100
gonna end up poor with no investment nothing in life yeah um arizona desert route says my sister has
01:30:47.580
three young adult children who attend church just about every week and one is getting ready to serve to
01:30:51.160
your mission wow um jordan peterson turned many zoomers to christ well i mean yeah good well that's
01:30:57.280
the funny thing about peterson i was i was actually at an event a small event in uh oxford i think it
01:31:01.720
was earlier this year that he was speaking at um and it's so funny how he still to this day can't
01:31:07.720
bring himself to say that he is a christian and that he believes in christ and it's funny how i think
01:31:12.640
somebody at that event made the comment that you know the role of the prophet is to open the door but
01:31:16.280
never to step through the door himself and i think peterson's an example of that honestly it's a
01:31:20.200
problem with boomers they're just an atheist generation yeah genuinely and it's it's yeah
01:31:25.380
you know not great and like gen x are the consequence of that same millennials yeah and
01:31:30.540
this this is why i'm like okay i personally don't want to go to church on sunday right you know i've
01:31:34.980
got no desire to do it but i think it will be good for my children to have done it yeah so it's not i'm
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not doing it for me uh i'm doing it for other people and my wife as well is actually a christian
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um anyway unfortunately we are out of time there so thank you for joining us folks uh charlie where
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can people find more from you uh well you can go to restore britain yeah go to church that's where
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you can find me uh no you can go to uh restore britain.org.uk forward slash join us to join
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restore britain uh which i am part of alongside rupert lowe uh otherwise you can find me at cf
01:32:03.480
downs underscore on all platforms great well thanks for joining us folks we will see you tomorrow