The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1239

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eaters episode 1239. I'm your host Harry joined today

00:00:10.040 by Carl and returning guest David Atherton. Thank you for joining us in the studio. How are you

00:00:14.680 today? I'm very glad you had a great journey down here. The stars are light and I was an hour and

00:00:20.600 half early so I'm very pleased about that I must say. Very very rare for GWR to treat anybody so

00:00:25.340 kindly these days so I'm glad that you didn't come into any... I gave myself three chances to get

00:00:28.960 here on time when it comes to trains. Well there you go. Today we're going to be talking about

00:00:33.480 France's immigration curfews, how a wrestling company almost had someone get murdered live on

00:00:41.780 stage and how they can't stop the signal. For everybody watching right now on YouTube where

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00:00:54.260 the business. Every little helps and we love to hear what you have to say as well. So with that

00:00:58.680 let's get into the news. Right well nobody seems to be talking about it but France is entering into

00:01:05.800 a period where they're going into what I guess we can just call immigration lockdowns as in cities

00:01:11.220 are imposing curfews on young people between the hours of like nine o'clock and six o'clock in the

00:01:18.700 morning because of the problems of mass immigration. Now as you can see France has had a vast amount of

00:01:25.780 mass immigration. I think there's some chance in here. There we go. So you can you can see that this

00:01:30.400 is in the millions and this is from 2018. I couldn't I couldn't find any really good data frankly

00:01:37.340 because France for some reason doesn't keep any track of the ethnic information of the people who

00:01:44.380 they're letting into the country or the the ethnic information they have is very like very difficult to

00:01:48.340 find for some reason. I assume it comes from their sort of French Revolution Enlightenment

00:01:53.300 perspective where it's like ah a man has set foot on France. He is now a Frenchman and you know we are

00:01:57.880 going to have this sort of hyper narrative of the liberal civic order imposed upon him. Of course the

00:02:03.540 immigrants aren't really up and they don't really care about that but it means that the French have

00:02:08.880 much more difficulty actually collecting reliable figures than we do. But anyway as you can see there

00:02:13.500 there are millions of people from Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia and various other African countries.

00:02:19.840 The number of European immigrants has remained the same or has shrunk a little bit. But as you can see France

00:02:26.820 is getting the same basic problem that we have. And again just actually counting the number of immigrants

00:02:33.820 in France is something that's possible because at least you know they've got to give out the visas but

00:02:38.900 counting the number of white French people in France is a much more difficult because they just don't keep

00:02:44.100 this data. But as of 2021 there were 7 million immigrants living in France which is 10.3% of the total

00:02:50.580 population of 68 million. Allegedly 68 million. 4.1 million were foreign nationals and 2.4 million had acquired

00:02:57.380 French citizenship. Now again that doesn't actually speak to how many French people are in France. What that

00:03:03.240 speaks to is how many legally French people were born overseas. But anyway so France has had real problems

00:03:11.460 of crime. Like this has been an ongoing thing for many years and it's the reason that Marine Le Pen's

00:03:16.900 party is currently leaning in the polls. And it's got to the point now where they're just uh no we're

00:03:21.300 just gonna have to have uh curfews. Just lockdowns for young people. Is this one of the many benefits of

00:03:27.220 multiculturalism I keep being told about? Yes an overreaching tyrannical state. I'm feeling

00:03:32.180 enriched already. Very honestly you're gonna feel very enriched by the end of this. So cities such as

00:03:38.660 Saint-Ouen, Bézier, Limogée or Nîmes I think it's pronounced? I don't know. Nîmes. Nîmes is it? Right okay I don't know.

00:03:46.340 Frog sounds. Yeah exactly yeah exactly frog sounds. Uh they they've imposed nighttime curfews for minors.

00:03:52.820 So the European Conservative reports, under these rules young people cannot be out at night unless

00:03:57.700 accompanied by an adult. The official reason is to curb crime and drug trafficking that have taken

00:04:02.340 over entire neighborhoods. Many residents applaud it. Others accept it with resignation but everyone

00:04:06.900 knows that there's a more profound message. The state admits the streets are no longer safe and the

00:04:11.300 only guarantee to keep teenagers away from violence is to lock them up at home. It's going great.

00:04:19.140 It's a very sad society when you have to have to crack down on teenagers from you know with curfews like

00:04:25.940 that. Instinctively I'm sort of a liberal in the sense that you know I don't like restrictions from

00:04:31.140 the state but do they have any choice? Is this an overreaction? I don't know. Well they made the

00:04:36.340 choice and then they let in millions and millions and millions of people and these are the consequences

00:04:40.100 of those choices. All of this originates from decisions that were made long ago and this is just

00:04:47.140 the downstream effects of it. Yeah the immigration chickens have come home to roost in other words.

00:04:52.820 Yes. That is precisely what this is. The interior minister recently described drug trafficking as

00:04:59.940 quote an existential threat to France because it's such a huge problem. You can imagine how this comes

00:05:05.620 the drugs are grown in North Africa uh funneled up across the Mediterranean through like Marseille

00:05:11.860 and then into the rest of the country or they come up through Spain and across the Pyrenees.

00:05:16.740 And this is a massive problem and there is a distinct ethnic dimension to it. It's North African gangs or

00:05:22.740 Albanian gangs doing it. And so does France also have problem with Albanian drugs gangs? Yeah they do

00:05:27.620 actually. What a shock. It's not just Britain that has this problem uh but the the European conservatives

00:05:33.300 say so uh what's surprising about this really is the response because it's been going on for years.

00:05:37.620 Uh instead of reinforcing the authority of the state in cutting crime at its roots the government

00:05:42.100 has opted to contain measures that restrict to containment measures that restrict citizens

00:05:46.500 freedom. Uh the curfews are a band-aid solution a political gesture that's meant to reassure the

00:05:51.060 population but as some open as some mayors openly admit with no tangible results. Weirdly,

00:05:57.300 this is going to sound really shocking, the drug traffickers don't care about the curfews.

00:06:02.340 I can't believe they're not respecting the rules. And also it's for minors anyway according to this

00:06:10.260 headline at least so. So the adults who are taking advantage of young sort of street. Like

00:06:15.300 we rules in France then. Right. Yeah. And so it it doesn't solve any of the problems. I guess it does

00:06:22.180 protect young people from falling prey to the gangs uh in a way but again the the whole issue is we've

00:06:29.300 brought a bunch of foreigners over so now french teenagers aren't allowed to go out at night yet.

00:06:33.220 It's like thanks thanks very much. Is that fair trade? It seems like a perfectly fair trade doesn't

00:06:37.780 it? It's like so horrific things have to do but again it didn't used to be like this you know when

00:06:43.300 you know when we were younger it wasn't. Is this not being mirrored in in Sweden, Spain, Germany?

00:06:48.660 It just didn't used to be like this. When I was a teenager you didn't think about crime. You just went

00:06:55.300 out and had a good time with your mates. Yeah. You know see see see if anyone looked old enough

00:06:59.860 to buy some beers. So you know. Yeah I was shocked at 18 when someone smoked a spliff.

00:07:05.780 Yeah right. You know but shocked. But like we'd see if I'm one of our mates who had a fuller beard

00:07:11.060 than the rest could go and pass for an adult and not get ID'd and buy some beer so we could drink

00:07:15.140 piers in the local park. Now it's like no you're not allowed out or the police will come and arrest you.

00:07:19.060 Yeah. So anyway yeah I mean obviously the uh the issue and as they tell us is about immigration.

00:07:27.620 Even more worrying is the deliberate avoidance of the addressing of the root causes. Various

00:07:32.420 studies point to the uncomfortable truth. Mass uncontrolled immigration is closely linked to

00:07:36.580 a rise in crime. A recent report showed that a rate of involvement of African foreigners in violent

00:07:41.460 crimes is three times higher than that of French nationals. So that's not right okay. So we know the

00:07:46.900 problem and we know who's doing it and you're going to have to stay in your house whether you like it

00:07:53.060 or not. And this is and the thing is well like there's always these sort of well a multicultural

00:07:58.980 pluralist state actually requires a very powerful leviathan to come and put the hand down hard on

00:08:05.940 everything to make sure everything uh frankly doesn't blow up in everyone's faces. Um nobody asked for

00:08:12.180 that. You know France used to be quite a free country. It used to be able to just live normally

00:08:17.540 in France uh same as over here. Um but now this has been sacrificed and this again but this doesn't

00:08:25.220 solve any of the problems right. This isn't going to stop drug trafficking in France and it's not going

00:08:30.180 to stop uh the the people doing it and it requires again a certain level of consent from the community

00:08:36.820 right. If you've got ethnic enclaves all around French cities you think they're engaging in a

00:08:42.660 curfew and they're young people? Of course not. How do you expect these people who are involved in

00:08:48.500 drugs to play a straight bat with anything you know? Exactly but how do you expect communities

00:08:53.140 who don't consider themselves to be French to give a damn what the French government's going to do?

00:08:56.420 Are you going to send police in there? Do you think there's going to be a mass community riot in

00:09:00.580 this thing? I mean you're like you know it's just not worth our time. I can see but I can see

00:09:04.180 whether it's going to Professor David Betts. You know um you know he's warning that uh he's a

00:09:10.100 profession professor of modern warfare at King's College University. Yeah he he foresees civil war

00:09:17.540 in Europe and not only does he see in a country once it kicks off in one country it will spread

00:09:24.260 throughout Europe. Yeah um the thing is as well like this creates a two-tier society for the French.

00:09:29.940 Now you are living under regulations that don't really apply to these immigrant communities because

00:09:35.140 the French government is going to be too scared to police them anyway. So it's assuming you're

00:09:38.980 going to cooperate and it doesn't solve any of the problems. We're back at two-tier policing like in

00:09:42.820 Britain again. Yeah exactly so the French are going to get two-tier policing as well. Anyway so this is

00:09:47.460 happening everywhere the the latest city to adopt such measures is Nîmes as you say. Uh authorities

00:09:52.980 there uh state of the curfew is aimed at protecting miners under 16 for from exposure to violence and to

00:09:58.340 reduce street tensions. Uh in recent weeks several shootings have been reported one of which occurred

00:10:03.300 in broad daylight leaving one person dead and several others others injured. Uh just like last

00:10:09.940 week a 19 year old was found burned as in the body had been burned and the the it was found in the

00:10:16.420 streets. Uh the mayor said the curfew was in effect from 9 p.m to 6 a.m because the situation had become

00:10:22.980 untenable. The drug traffickers had created a climate of fear and terror. I mean I can't

00:10:29.140 hope but feel that there's a becalian solution to this. There are drug traffickers they're creating

00:10:34.260 a climate of fear and terror. What about the human rights of the law-abiding people? I know you don't

00:10:39.780 get human rights you get locked up in your homes and they get the free run of the streets.

00:10:45.140 Well indeed it's uh it's uh it's what it's what it's one of those conundrums which which we as a

00:10:51.940 society and and and and in France as a society have to have to vote on you know where where do we stand

00:10:58.580 you know you know it does appear that if you go go completely liberal you will lose you will lose

00:11:04.580 complete control of the streets. Yes. You know um you know you know where where is the line between

00:11:10.020 safety and um you know security um Europe has painted it painted itself in such is into such a

00:11:17.300 bad corner at the moment that we don't know what we're doing and it will only end badly for all of

00:11:22.500 us. And moreover why is it that the rights of the criminals always have to trump the rights of the

00:11:27.300 citizens? That's that's the real issue right? The deputy mayor uh said that this is to prevent

00:11:32.980 children as young as 12 or 13 from being exploited by drug traffickers. It's like lock them up.

00:11:38.660 Lock them up. Lock them up just god damn it man you know like just the the the tyranny of human

00:11:46.340 rights is causing this to come into existence. Oh indeed yeah. That's the problem. I don't know

00:11:50.980 what the criminal wage and responsibilities in France but you know you know I'm sorry if you're

00:11:54.980 12 13 and you're a drug mule you should be in secure accommodation. Sure but like if you're 12 or 13 and

00:12:02.020 the streets are dangerous and this is a way of making money and finding some sort of protection

00:12:06.180 then I can understand why it would be a rational incentive to follow. But the issue is there are

00:12:11.380 adults doing this to these children. Okay finally adults lock them up. It's not up at their human

00:12:16.100 rights. Screw their human rights. At what point did people vote that American ghetto culture was

00:12:20.980 something to be emulated? Because what you're just describing there as this is the stories of

00:12:25.780 countless children from ghettos who get drawn into these gangs because of the kind of circumstances that

00:12:32.020 you're describing there the atmosphere. Yeah and the and and this really is an excessively liberal

00:12:38.660 position that France has been uh employing in their own country and now you can see this this is the

00:12:45.780 result this is the end result of unlimited human rights in all aspects of society right this is where

00:12:52.820 you come to. Bézier has also enforced a similar curfew which it did last year which is slightly less

00:12:59.220 draconian but still uh and despite this efforts the the problem continues. The thing is there have

00:13:04.100 been loads of shooting in Nîmes uh this is from 2023 this is from last month like it's no no no

00:13:10.900 different really at all uh the 2023 one was obviously uh terrible but what's interesting is that these are

00:13:18.020 not ethnically French people who are being shot uh the first victim was called Fayyed for example um

00:13:24.500 Algerian North African exactly they're they're all North African gangs not just Algeria but you know

00:13:30.100 the whole Maghreb basically um and a lot of people are getting caught in the crossfire there's a 10

00:13:35.140 year old who just had the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time just caught in

00:13:38.900 the crossfire. That's that's that's that's collateral damage that you get when you have gang gang wars in

00:13:43.060 cities like that. Yeah it is and you think okay well isn't it justified to uh literally just arrest

00:13:49.060 them all and then sort it out afterwards uh because this is literally to protect children in your city

00:13:56.100 and yet for some reason it's still going on this is like I said from last month

00:14:01.220 uh this was just a manhunt was underway because six people were shot thankfully none of them died uh

00:14:09.220 because of a drug crime shooting uh in the thing uh these were these people weren't targets of the

00:14:16.660 criminals either these were just stray bullets that were hit uh and police are like Jesus Christ

00:14:22.340 um and so the gunman was on the loose I've no idea I haven't followed up so I don't know if he's

00:14:27.060 still uh at large or anything but this this very quickly yeah go ahead the the the murder rate in

00:14:33.140 France is 50% higher than Britain yeah it's crazy it's absolutely crazy um this is uh an incredible

00:14:40.500 like story this sounds like something out of a movie right this is from 2024 uh four hooded gunmen

00:14:47.220 rammed a prison van with two vehicles and then open fire killing two guards and wounding several others

00:14:52.180 their objective was to free mohammed amra a french criminal

00:14:57.700 french doing a lot of heavy lifting i don't know what he's talking about harry a lot of french

00:15:01.460 criminals are called mohammed uh who's being transported from a court to a hearing in rouen

00:15:06.980 uh from a court hearing in rouen to a secure facility in evru uh after releasing amra the

00:15:13.300 criminals fled in two cars which were later found burnt uh this attack sparked a massive

00:15:17.860 manhunt etc etc but that that sounds like something out of a movie doesn't it it sounds

00:15:21.860 like the beginning of a batman movie and amra apparently according to this article is a lifelong

00:15:26.820 criminal whose record dates back to when he was 15 years old that's correct uh he's obviously

00:15:32.020 someone you want in your community he should be on the streets yeah thank you for inviting him

00:15:36.180 into france yes he doesn't doesn't know any other way to live yeah he has links with a

00:15:42.100 marseille drug gang called the blacks um i don't know if that's descriptive or not yeah i but uh but

00:15:49.780 the point is um one senator said uh we are not a narco state but we are approaching a weakening of

00:15:56.900 power that is a sign of a narco state so we're becoming a kind of mexican style cartel fuel drug state

00:16:03.860 uh open defiance of the rule of law here yes open defiance and and just the the power of the gangs

00:16:10.660 is the issue because this is the problem that the french state is having real difficulties actually

00:16:17.060 putting this stuff down it's like okay well you know you you believed in the multi-culti liberal

00:16:21.860 paradise how's it working out and the answer is not great well the big question is what what what what

00:16:28.340 what we as a continent europe can do about it well uh they're going to be things that aren't very

00:16:34.820 liberal um but they will require mass expulsions frankly so why are there so why are there millions

00:16:40.340 of north africans in france the simple reason that algeria was a french colony for of course yeah and

00:16:48.180 the the french thought that they could have the kind of flat abstract view of citizenship where it's just

00:16:54.260 like if you are named a french citizen then you are french and so they tried to expand that to all

00:16:58.580 of north africa and the north africans were like no if you look at what what donald trump trump has

00:17:03.940 done with washington dc apparently there was 11 days it might have grown even more 11 days without

00:17:09.780 murdering washington dc i think you said the national guardian you got to be robust you know and once

00:17:16.020 you once you cure the violence you can then go back to being liberal again yeah the the and you can just

00:17:20.980 have a free country again you know but you you have to crack down on this hard i mean bukele showed

00:17:26.900 ever on the way right you know the the plummeting murder rate of el salvador because he locked up like

00:17:32.180 one percent of the country's population that was terrorizing the entire place and it's the same

00:17:36.900 problem in france yeah i mean we've got uh an interesting sort of profile on france here if i can

00:17:42.740 scroll down to the uh the drugs aspect of it and i just didn't realize how big a problem uh drugs were in

00:17:48.820 france uh heroin trafficking is prevalent in the country with networks involved in trade buying the

00:17:53.220 drug from neighboring countries heroin is mostly produced in afghanistan and then transported to

00:17:57.620 france via belgium or the netherlands before being redistributed uh the northern department of france

00:18:03.140 especially the city of lily is a major hub for heroin trafficking whereas traffic from the alps region

00:18:08.500 is controlled by albanian mafias incredible and obviously there are other drugs but they're the main

00:18:14.340 like problem drugs and then you can see a second route is by french guyana where cocaine is

00:18:19.940 transported by road to suriname and then flown to paris using human mules or sent in cans through

00:18:24.900 postal parcels and so this is just brilliant and is required the french states the french cities say

00:18:33.780 yep we're just gonna have to have these crackdowns strikes me as a death as a death spiral yeah it looks

00:18:38.980 that way especially as uh like the authorities have admitted this hasn't worked it hasn't

00:18:43.860 prevented the spread of drugs i mean it's probably saved a few kids from being sucked into the gangs

00:18:50.180 but the the gang members themselves are still on the streets they're still at large and nothing

00:18:54.180 is being solved there are also other problems it's not just violence and it's not just drugs

00:18:59.460 you can imagine how things are going for french women these days we have a chart in this which

00:19:04.340 is pretty brutal

00:19:09.700 28 16 to 2023 so in 2016 and in 2023 i mean it doesn't even fit on the screen uh the number

00:19:16.980 has more than doubled of sexual assaults on women so from 51 000 in 2016 to 114 000 in 2023 uh

00:19:28.820 this is pretty out of control i mean nothing from jk rowling on this

00:19:32.420 like the same same with the the scottish woman you know the scottish girl with the knife and thing

00:19:36.900 jk rowling didn't mention it by the way the britain statistics are even more horrific

00:19:40.820 oh i know i know since 2000 since 2000 has been a nine-fold increase in rape in this country

00:19:46.180 yeah and and and the spike began in 2014. yeah and uh in in london in particular there was a there

00:19:53.060 was one particular graph i just kept posting uh shit libs on twitter whenever they'd say oh london's

00:19:58.100 perfectly safe and it's it's a bbc graph that just shows sexual assaults have increased by four

00:20:04.020 times in london it's like is it is it really or is it that you're not a woman and you don't care

00:20:08.580 about these things um so yeah the point being things are going badly in france and suddenly

00:20:13.940 this puts into perspective how marine le pen can be such an inevitable figure in french politics at

00:20:19.380 this point it's like you know are they going to allow are they going to allow well they obviously

00:20:24.580 banned her from standing her party though yeah i i don't know i mean they who knows what kind of

00:20:30.500 underhanded things they're going to do you know to try and stop them from being but the the the

00:20:34.660 reason that europe seems to be going to the right is because things are falling apart i mean it's not

00:20:40.100 just bad here it's really bad there i mean and thing is france just seems far more violent like the the

00:20:46.180 level of violence that these gangs are perpetrating like things are bad here but this is way worse

00:20:51.300 to me um and so it's it's no great surprise that they have to try and do something but curfews are

00:20:57.140 of course not going to work the only thing that's going to work is sending these people home the other

00:21:01.700 thing the other thing the other thing about about the french government is their welfare is quite

00:21:05.380 generous is it is equal if not more generous than ours so why why why why force yourself against to get

00:21:10.580 get you know a proper job you know oh yeah i mean the france just like britain's riddled with

00:21:15.140 problems um but yeah so leave that there um the engaged few says how do you say enrich me harder

00:21:21.300 in french i did just look that up on google when i saw it apparently it's a enriching more plus fort

00:21:27.780 oh very good so there you go you've learned something yeah uh logan says can't wait can't france with its

00:21:34.180 famous foreign legion absorb all this new manpower willing or not and then retake the empire uh the these

00:21:39.460 people are people that you doubtless cannot make do something useful with their time uh i can't

00:21:45.700 imagine for a second that the french government would benefit by training and arming them i mean

00:21:52.420 that's got to be a bad idea right yeah yeah no that wouldn't be a good idea the other the other major

00:21:57.620 worry with france is because of the the sort of eliterranean it's far easier of bringing guns to

00:22:02.820 france to the south south coast yeah you know i've i've seen i've seen ak 47's brandished in uh

00:22:08.980 you know in the states in marseille not yeah i mean yeah oh yeah marseille is it's crazy um not just

00:22:14.980 that though there's overland routes as well that the again it's just far easier to get into france than

00:22:20.660 it is to get into britain for example a little more porous you know the borders i suppose there's

00:22:24.900 probably quite quite a bit of corruption going on as well so no doubt yeah indeed yeah so no we uh you know

00:22:30.740 it's uh there will be difficult times ever for europe you know rest assured of that yeah i mean

00:22:35.460 we think it's bad in britain and it is but it's also bad everywhere else i think ours could end up

00:22:42.260 getting far worse in the future i just get that impression yeah there's definitely a strong feeling

00:22:47.780 of i've had enough of all of this um alex says when are we going to draw a line between the leftists

00:22:52.980 having real epiphanies about crime and immigration versus those just figuring out which way the wind is

00:22:58.260 blowing and trying to avoid a possible future justice well uh i'm not sure we will be able to

00:23:02.900 draw any lines like that i'm afraid one of the one of the the eternal problems with these kind of

00:23:07.940 revolutions you get a bunch of people suddenly like homer simpsoning back into the the bushes

00:23:12.900 and then coming back and it's like you know the point is at least it's going in our direction

00:23:17.380 but sorry let's let's carry on well well so we've got a super chat from homeworld who was just asking

00:23:21.700 what happened to the intro slash outro music yeah that was why i was shifting my all right yeah

00:23:25.700 because it was blocking oh yeah right it's it's right there we don't want to miss those i don't

00:23:29.540 know i know has anything gone on with the intro outro music samson yeah when when we first started

00:23:34.420 on youtube we just said okay we'll buy that tune and uh that's totally fine and at some point in the

00:23:39.140 intervening years they've decided to copyright claim that music on youtube so we can't like monetize

00:23:44.740 the story i have some original music well you can happily buy the copyright well why not that's the

00:23:49.940 thing harry you know so you need to write us some new intro music uh i i could try and do something

00:23:55.780 like that yeah why not actually there was i did actually write like an ambient synth wave song five

00:24:02.340 years ago i can try and dig up the files for that and maybe see if we can do something with it exactly

00:24:07.380 that that's why the intro music is gone because youtube starts striking us i did not know that uh

00:24:12.180 xavier says g'day don't forget there'll be a countrywide pro australia protest on the 31st of august

00:24:17.300 deus vault uh i strongly agree says my good friend and the world needs a european donald trump

00:24:24.100 uh make europe great again yeah unfortunately there's not going to be a european donald trump

00:24:29.620 um also i know we've got the eu but europe is not a series of united states like the united states

00:24:35.380 anyway you'd really need some kind of major coordination going on between all of the european

00:24:40.820 leaders all pushing in the same direction which sounds like herding cats to me yeah frankly i mean it

00:24:46.580 definitely is anyway we'll carry on yes all right so this story's been blowing up on the internet a

00:24:52.100 little bit so being the resident wrestling guy in the office i thought it would be appropriate for me

00:24:57.780 to cover there was a video that goes with this but frankly i don't know if it's appropriate to show on

00:25:03.700 youtube and it appears that maybe our lotus eaters account isn't age verified let me see oh no it isn't so

00:25:11.140 we can't watch the video which is probably just as well because it is pretty brutal because you may

00:25:17.220 have already come across this now what this is related to is a small wrestling organization called

00:25:22.580 knox pro who are or were as we'll see affiliated with wwe they are run by ex-wwe wrestler rikishi who if you

00:25:33.460 watch the attitude era you might be familiar with and this was a wrestling event where as part of it

00:25:39.940 there was a streamer raja jackson the son of the former ufc i think lightweight champion rampage

00:25:47.860 jackson was involved in an altercation it's a good name rampage jackson he seems level-headed

00:25:54.900 well no it's his son yeah i know but like does the apple fall far from the tree uh well i mean

00:26:00.980 the people have been mischaracterizing somewhat rampage's reaction to this whole thing saying that

00:26:06.020 he was basically victim blaming the guy that his son almost killed uh but if you actually watch

00:26:11.860 what he's been saying he's basically saying no it's my son's fault i'm ashamed of him so people

00:26:16.900 have been mischaracterizing what he's been saying and it's in a quite unfair way but basically what

00:26:21.140 happened was uh in the video itself you can find this if you if you've got a strong stomach uh this

00:26:28.180 guy raja jackson jumps into the ring picks up a guy whose stage name is psycho stew his name in real

00:26:34.580 life is stewart smith uh lifts him up body slams him a really harsh looking one and then proceeds to

00:26:43.860 punch him directly in the face apparently was unconscious yeah while he's unconscious he looked

00:26:48.660 unconscious 22 times in a row now for those of you who may not be aware i'd like you to hold on to your

00:26:54.180 hats because this might be a shock to you but professional wrestling is fake it's what's known

00:27:00.020 as a work the performers are cooperating with one another to put on a show and simulate violence now

00:27:08.340 this doesn't mean it doesn't hurt there's enough wrestlers who've gotten addicted to painkillers over

00:27:13.300 the years to tell you that it does hurt that met wrestling mat is a thin piece of uh padded fabric

00:27:19.860 over wooden boards so if you have your head slammed hard enough against it it hurts and you can break

00:27:26.100 your back and do all sorts of things this was not fake this was not planned he knocks him out and then

00:27:33.460 brutally takes advantage of him it's what's known in the business as taking liberties harry no one in

00:27:39.460 the chat believes you everyone's convinced that no i'm joking listen guys hulk hogan slamming andre yeah

00:27:45.940 that was impressive very strong thing to do they'd agreed no no they they they know they know yes so

00:27:52.580 the audience is well aware we're all on the same page now so he was taking liberties with him and

00:27:57.620 there's been a lot of people trying to justify it mainly roger jackson is black mainly a lot of people

00:28:05.540 online uh black uh communities on twitter and elsewhere online have been trying to justify it or make

00:28:12.420 excuses or say that it's psycho stew's fault because of an altercation that took place before

00:28:18.100 the event but let me see if i can find it just a just as a um some context as well uh people have

00:28:25.620 been pointing out that this raja jackson uh fellow has tried oh yeah here was here was the aftermath

00:28:31.700 yeah i mean it was horrific you can see he's bleeding from his ears as well as his as well as his nose and

00:28:37.380 his eyes he suffered multiple broken bones in the face and jaw didn't he get a bunch of teeth knocked

00:28:43.460 out yes and a number of teeth which knocked out he was choking on his teeth thankfully we can confirm

00:28:49.540 the guy is alive and he is conscious as far as i'm aware but this was completely uncalled for liberty is

00:28:57.460 taken when this guy in real life you know he's trained for w for uh mma ufc style fighting but his

00:29:05.140 professional record is zero and one yeah he's not won an actual professional mma fight i think he had

00:29:12.580 a few victories as amateur so this just seems like the impotent rage of a failure who can't emulate

00:29:19.220 his father's success being taken out on this guy and there are videos that seem to confirm it was so

00:29:24.340 brutal to watch as well man i saw the the video going around twitter like everyone and he just lifts

00:29:29.780 him up slams him down it looks like he knocks him out because he bangs his head down yeah again if you

00:29:34.180 do that you can knock yourself out on those things it's only it's only a thin padding yeah and then

00:29:39.060 he just starts smashing him in the face it's like it's a wild fury it's horrific people started to ask

00:29:45.860 why that was why did and now i'll see if the clip okay here's here's a clip of him fleeing the scene

00:29:53.220 and you can see how totally secure in himself this guy is i apologize for those of you who may be

00:29:58.740 watching with families there is some foul language here

00:30:06.100 top is playing with me bro real

00:30:09.940 one of the little bits bit me i'm tired of everybody playing with me i think i'm always playing

00:30:15.860 call me no no at the end of the day i'm gonna stand up for myself because i'm tired of everybody

00:30:23.700 playing with me bro look at his face there's one of the wrestlers who broke up the altercation in the

00:30:33.300 ring come on roger let's go let's go roger let's go let's go let's go very very frustrating his life

00:30:40.100 well yeah he can't emulate his father's success uh he's just he's a kick streamer and all of this was

00:30:46.900 caught live on kick and unfortunately for him let's see if that will this be age restricted yeah

00:30:54.500 here's a bunch of clips put together to show the full context i won't show everything here because

00:30:59.220 it's about four minutes long uh but this should give an indication so there's behind the scenes

00:31:04.180 they're backstage talking this uh this this guy here with the beard and the belly is psycho stew who

00:31:12.180 he assaulted later on and stew seems to be under the misapprehension that he's involved in the work

00:31:19.300 and so he picks up a can and smacks it against his head and uh it seems for a little bit like they

00:31:25.540 managed to sort it out and shake hands and apologize

00:31:28.020 he's not a worker bro yeah what is that you're good you're good you're good you're good you're good

00:31:41.140 you don't sell it bro bro so you're gonna sell it selling means make it look like it hurts

00:31:48.180 he thought he was involved in this and he wasn't it was a mistake he always think that we're working

00:31:55.060 over here like it's part of the storyline he's apologizing straight away because he always think

00:32:07.620 he doesn't get to work

00:32:24.820 so so it looks like they've apologized and what he agrees to do after this is he says we'll give you a receipt

00:32:30.580 within the business if somebody's in the ring and they're supposed to like throw a punch at you

00:32:35.700 and just fake it and they actually clock you in the face and maybe break something or just really

00:32:40.740 hurt you and start taking liberties you're justified in giving what's called a receipt

00:32:45.460 where you give it back just as good as you get but you're only supposed to give as good as you get

00:32:50.340 you're not supposed to take liberties the way that he did so it was supposed to be like yeah you get to

00:32:55.940 go in the ring i'll let you give me a body slam and you can get one hit in we're even that was the

00:33:01.940 agreement and then the problem for raja because i don't believe he's been arrested yet is that uh

00:33:09.540 well he was live streaming on kick the entire time so some people have tried to say that oh well they

00:33:16.580 said he could punch as much as he wanted so it's justified right well actually he was sat there by

00:33:22.740 ringside talking to his chat the entire time live on stream talking about how he was going to take

00:33:29.700 liberties with this guy and saying hey how much you pay me to beat his ass i'm going to stream

00:33:36.340 incriminate myself if he hits me back for real i don't give a i want him to y'all want me to teabag

00:33:42.100 him people think people think game right you're right joe i gotta show some form of respect train

00:33:50.020 no goddamn martial arts i'm really going to hit him i'm telling you what should i do chat should i

00:33:54.980 pick him up should i slam him first or hit him w if i should slam him first not

00:33:59.700 around you don't think i can do it mig miggy my dad can't never call me a bitch dude oh you think

00:34:07.060 he's stronger than me all right suave watch shut the up shut the up up suave i bet you wouldn't be

00:34:12.820 talking like this if you was in front of me chat watch what i do to tony i'm gonna show you i'm gonna

00:34:17.140 show you tony a few moments later tell you guys did they told me to hit him and just leave somebody

00:34:23.300 who pulled me off of him and leave i'm telling you i'm gonna hit him as many times as i can watch

00:34:30.660 no they didn't tell me to fake him they said i could hit him for real

00:34:33.460 okay well that's that's as much incriminating yeah there you go so there's a they're gonna hit

00:34:38.420 him for real i'm gonna hit him as many times as i can and then he goes and does they said i

00:34:42.020 could hit him once well i'm gonna hit him as many times as i can okay great you've just incriminated

00:34:46.180 yourself you absolutely more while coming across like the most insecure bitch imaginable you can see

00:34:53.220 like he shook hands with him as far as like honorable gentleman's agreement goes it was a mistake

00:34:58.820 here's how we're going to make it up to you we've shook on this i've apologized you've accepted the

00:35:02.900 apology that's as far as it goes you go in you get your extra hit in and then you leave it's all part

00:35:08.420 of the show right but he is legitimately furious and you can hear he sees this as and it seems to

00:35:16.820 stem from like his dad as well he's like my dad can't call me a bitch anymore over this it sounds

00:35:22.820 like it sounds like maybe after he lost his one professional match that he was in his dad may have

00:35:28.020 made a joke or two and like that he's just decided this is how i'm gonna get you back dad just as a

00:35:33.860 dad don't ever do that to your son you know you even if he loses you've got to be supportive he

00:35:39.380 strikes me as a very very angry man you know who who who was taking his frustrations out on life on

00:35:44.900 that wrestler oh that's terrible that's appalling behavior you know i've actually seen that the clip

00:35:50.660 itself you know 20 20 22 hits he gives the guy that's absolutely disgraceful but the thing is now

00:35:56.580 now i'm actually starting to feel a bit bad for him right because if he okay you you you go for a

00:36:01.940 a professional mma match and you lose okay fair enough that happens right and if your dad then

00:36:06.820 insults you after it i can see that and that's just speculation on my part but it's what it comes

00:36:11.700 across what it comes across as motivation is it if that's the case it's not it's not it's not just

00:36:16.900 it's not just bad when like a random person does it is you know okay thanks buddy uh you know but

00:36:21.860 your dad is obviously the person you look up to the most these most mma fighters and professional

00:36:27.620 boxers i've met are the most passive people you'll ever meet they are so laid back well they should

00:36:33.540 be dangerous people yeah i know i know i know but even i think they're naturally like that as well

00:36:40.180 they don't train themselves to be passive they actually are like that from for all the violence

00:36:44.020 that they meet out in the ring you know they're doing training and things like that no it's the

00:36:47.620 antidote to their to their to their aggression they say well they're going to the ring you know it's like

00:36:52.340 i'm relatively passive myself you give me a pair of football boots and i'll become the most

00:36:57.060 nasty person in the world nobby stars on steroids you know you know we don't know

00:37:02.340 viddie jones on steroids yeah that's what i like on twitter to me i'm joking james lindsey knows well

00:37:07.540 yeah someone's got to teach you so yeah that's what i'm saying my aggression for and i've learned to be

00:37:14.260 passive on twitter to on next you do have to be as well sorry carry on yeah but um you know his like

00:37:20.580 rampage jackson's been spoken about this in this little clip it's summed up pretty well here he says

00:37:26.740 don't condone what my son did i'm gonna let justice play out wish i could have been there

00:37:30.980 hopefully one day i can meet psycho stew and shake his hand i hope he can forgive me as a dad for not

00:37:35.540 understanding everything to be honest with you that's as good a statement on it as you could

00:37:39.780 possibly hope for yeah like you learn that your son has brutally assaulted somebody like this again

00:37:44.660 i've not seen anything where it seems like rampage jackson has been condoning this or trying to make

00:37:50.660 excuses for it at all so respect to him for that also amusingly people found this clip from him

00:37:56.900 a month ago or earlier on this very month where he said that he's got you know he's got children

00:38:02.020 from different mothers he's got two kids uh who were who were just like um black americans like him

00:38:08.660 and two kids who are like half japanese and he was just saying like oh yeah you know i know my japanese

00:38:13.940 kids are going to college so i'm saving up college money for them but with raja and my other one you know

00:38:18.820 i save up bail money for them so it's like it's like he already knew that they were going to do

00:38:23.940 something stupid or at least raja was going to do something stupid which uh which doesn't look

00:38:28.180 good on raja's part where even his dad's like yeah he's gonna he's gonna get in some kind of trouble

00:38:32.820 one of these days there there is a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy aspect to this as well

00:38:36.580 though i mean it's not gonna be the first time he said something like that to him yeah surely it's a

00:38:40.980 father you know he's obviously spotted what's going on here sure he's a father he should have done

00:38:45.060 something about it in a more positive way and notice how in the previous one he's like i hope

00:38:49.140 he forgives me as a father right now he he actually invokes that himself so this this is obviously

00:38:55.780 something that's been on his mind yeah i imagine when something like this happens you ask you begin

00:39:00.180 to ask yourself where where you could have done better what you could have done better to avoid

00:39:04.100 your son getting in a situation like this uh the wrestlers involved this was one of the wrestlers who

00:39:09.380 pulled jackson off of psycho stew uh has basically just said like what the hell are you doing we're

00:39:16.100 not trained to fight martial arts this whole thing is a work uh like you don't you don't do that to

00:39:21.940 somebody you're acting like a bully and you come across like a coward calls him a little bitch so

00:39:25.780 again if if jackson wanted to come across less like a little bitch this is completely backfired

00:39:30.340 in his face but one of the most disconcerting things about this situation is that the wrestlers

00:39:35.940 involved have stated that nox pro the company that were holding this event in the first place

00:39:41.780 have said that they do not want the people involved in the incident to speak to the police and that

00:39:45.940 there is a specific group of people within the company who will be speaking to the police on their

00:39:51.700 behalf which seems like what they want to do is sweep this under the rug wrong yeah wrong which uh

00:39:57.620 pretty despicable behavior again just a quick thing why do they think that not enough people know

00:40:03.460 about it or something you know they oh we can keep this under wraps like everyone not knows yeah

00:40:07.700 and the police have more than enough information and evidence that was a live streamed to thousands

00:40:13.220 of people at the time to be able to condemn and convict roger jackson when eventually they arrest him

00:40:19.860 as far as i can tell from the information that's available online right now it looks like he's not

00:40:23.700 being arrested yet which is shocking because frankly he should be i mean he should be facing time

00:40:30.020 i think it's lAPD isn't it los angeles so uh you know well yeah i suppose they're afraid that if

00:40:35.540 they arrest him that people might start rioting which is to be fair something to be concerned about

00:40:41.380 as keith woods pointed out himself uh his post his original post which is where i saw this got 25

00:40:48.500 million views and out of thousands of comments uh most of the ones from black commenters were almost

00:40:53.540 universally defending his actions and even and i used to watch this guy when i was a kid mark henry

00:41:00.100 who's a former world champion came out to defend him saying that psycho stew deserves the blame

00:41:07.620 for the incident which as somebody who's worked within wrestling that is a remarkable thing for him to

00:41:14.900 say i can't imagine anybody else within pro wrestling saying that he did it to himself

00:41:21.060 yeah or was or was asking for it or deserved the blame obviously the incident that began

00:41:26.260 it in the first place was a mistake him smashing the can against his head was a mistake but they

00:41:31.300 had already resolved that everything that happened after that was not what they agreed nobody else but

00:41:37.620 jackson is to blame for that this is like the carmelo anthony thing right yeah where it's like

00:41:42.260 there's a kind of in-group loyalty that's being expressed here i mean at least his dad isn't doing at

00:41:47.700 least his dad is like you know justice should be served we've seen seems to be that there are

00:41:52.260 there are some people here who aren't being very objective yes yeah well it reminds me of you know

00:41:57.460 i've seen people um on indians on twitter defending the actions of that lorry driver yeah kill people

00:42:04.100 it's it's ridiculous how uh there is a certain portion of sorry it goes further than that right with

00:42:09.620 that that he did a fundraiser and like uh not yeah not a fundraiser sorry there was a petition

00:42:15.860 and like a million people signed this petition trying to get him uh you know some sort of

00:42:20.340 commuted sentence he killed people yeah i know but he he didn't know what he was doing he was just

00:42:25.700 trying to help his family it was an accident jesus and a million of them signed it i'll do a video on

00:42:31.220 a segment on it because i didn't know that it went that far it's mad and they've got loads of video

00:42:36.500 comments on the petition of them saying the same rhetoric just the same thing over and over and it's

00:42:42.580 like and they're all just they're just indian people who are just like well he's an indian

00:42:46.180 therefore we would like him off and it's like look we're not ready for this kind of tribalism yeah

00:42:50.900 they look at it from the perspective of is this good for us if he goes down no then is he one of

00:42:56.980 ours yeah then we'll make sure he doesn't go down yeah very briefly i uh the worst example of

00:43:02.020 of of um similar to what you were just describing there happened after the oxford um uh trial where

00:43:09.380 where seven pakistani heritage men were jailed for grooming gangs the local one of the independent

00:43:15.060 local imams said the local imams actually encouraged the the men to go out there and abuse the white

00:43:20.340 working-class girls actually in sermons in mosques jesus christ but um again this is being investigated

00:43:28.260 by the police right now uh psycho stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew

00:43:34.180 has regained consciousness and one of the things that really makes this even worse sadly not to end

00:43:39.780 on a down note or anything is that this article talks about how smith is a military veteran who

00:43:45.380 joined knox pro in 2009 after retiring from service in a prior promotional clip released by the wrestling

00:43:52.100 academy he'd said that he suffers from ptsd and began wrestling as a means to give him something to

00:43:57.780 focus on as he adjusted back into civilian life so this this was his way of coping with ptsd

00:44:03.300 basically and this this guy this nobody this son of some famous guy who can't achieve anything by himself

00:44:09.700 has just come in like a wrecking ball and completely ruined his life it's a completely

00:44:13.940 disgusting thing and he needs to go to prison for this for years and the final note is that knox pro

00:44:20.900 as a result of all of this seems to have removed all wwid branding from their social media presumably

00:44:27.380 because after seeing what happened and how they handled it wwe have decided they don't want anything to

00:44:33.060 do with this academy anymore so again this whole incident has not only ruined did the guy get banned from

00:44:37.860 kick too yes he's been he's been banned from kick he's ruined multiple people's lives and the and and this

00:44:44.820 whole company because of the way that they've they've dealt with the situation and all of the

00:44:50.100 people attached to that now presumably uh are also tainted with this whole thing except for those who

00:44:56.260 tried to uh stop the altercation as soon as it happened so not a very nice story frankly yeah i

00:45:01.460 mean i i watched this video the the the thing that really bothers me is just how merciless this guy is

00:45:07.300 like it is just horrific man it's absolutely horrific it's a horrible tawdry tale isn't it i i yeah yeah

00:45:14.020 i just said the truth i was reading about it on the first time on the way up here i was absolutely

00:45:18.900 appalled yeah it's horrific that's just just unmitigated nasty violence for no reason yeah

00:45:24.900 thread not says buy harry's music get a new intro and outro he's been whining about you not using

00:45:28.900 his music for years well there we go we will do i've been whining i don't think you've been whining

00:45:32.580 i don't think i've ever whined about it um but i will i'll try honestly i'll try and write something

00:45:37.300 for it might be might work out yeah just make something quite nice and we'll use it um

00:45:43.380 thread not says i'll prove i'm not a little bitch i'll suck a punch and murder this guy

00:45:46.900 like a little bitch that'll teach him for accidentally offending me yeah exactly um

00:45:52.100 so i don't think cultural warfare ends at immigration multiple psyops like live streaming

00:45:56.900 create a completely useless generation man there's there is there is there is something about like

00:46:03.700 the walking around live streaming type that it just encourages the irl streamers yeah the irl

00:46:11.140 streamers that's it yeah that just encourages like i get to live vicariously through this guy

00:46:17.140 instead of going outside yeah and everyone then just you know feeding them money to do something

00:46:21.060 really stupid and you get really stupid things happen and it's just bad um carmelo anthony

00:46:27.460 stabbed austin metcalf because he was disrespectful yeah and then he got loads of

00:46:31.620 money from a community that thinks that's acceptable uh thanks for keep up the great work lads

00:46:37.060 uh uh thanks for i think you mean thanks for the great workers keep it up thank you very much will

00:46:41.780 do uh in james lindsey's work right meltdown he called the dominion society a virus only to get

00:46:48.500 ratioed by the founder nature is healing long live canada i still couldn't believe he tried to make a

00:46:52.820 connection between like the white working class of england being putting up flags and literal nazi

00:46:59.940 ideology there was nowhere else he could go i mean i'm it was the special pleading i mean who's

00:47:04.500 like that's literally woke james but literally he's like well the jews are a special case because

00:47:09.860 they were oppressed historically and therefore you're not and that that's very woke it's a

00:47:14.980 specific like all he has to fall back on are some woke arguments it's very that's why i kept pushing

00:47:20.420 it because like you've got nowhere to go here that's the only rationale you can use um but uh

00:47:24.980 mana says you telling me wrestling is fake next you're gonna say that cnn is not the most trustworthy

00:47:29.460 name and news we're gonna get to that in a minute uh uh data republican had a great x thread on the

00:47:35.620 difficulty of reporting refugees from a fan in tennessee thank you very much uh time to raise the

00:47:40.100 dragon banner and declare the rebirth of the free saxon nation of wessex now uh uh well we'll see we'll

00:47:46.020 see about that but um i'm glad people are bringing that up because i i wanted to go to something that's

00:47:51.300 actually a lot more wholesome right a lot more i wanted to end this podcast on an up note because i don't

00:47:57.620 know whether you've noticed but they can't stop the signal like i can't help but feel everything's

00:48:04.020 kind of going our way uh like and i really think it comes down to social media i really think i mean

00:48:11.540 you may remember back in 2022 when elon musk was like uh actually i'm buying twitter not because it's

00:48:17.620 going to make me money but because i genuinely think it's an important free speech platform for uh

00:48:23.380 just discourse in the west and he he literally says this is not a way to make money uh my strong

00:48:29.620 intuitive sense is that having a public platform that is maximally trusted and broadly inclusive

00:48:34.020 is extremely important to the future of civilization i think he's right i mean look at the pressure that

00:48:40.020 the online right has been able to assert recently on basically anyone i mean like from your own

00:48:45.380 experiences how do you guys think twitter is going at the moment i i i think it is is certainly the

00:48:52.820 the number one news news app that's uh that's on your phone at the moment and that's been it's been

00:48:58.420 number one for you for months now um something like 85 of all influencers in the in the alternative

00:49:05.620 media are or use x as their main platform to advertise themselves um i personally won't go to

00:49:11.460 tick tock or anything else uh i'll just i'll just stick with that excellent youtube kind of thing um

00:49:16.660 um we have the thing i've written guys the thing i really wanted to say uh what i was saying to you

00:49:22.180 guys was um slightly veering away here um i've been on but i've been on bbc bbc world service twice

00:49:30.660 producer told me there were 55 million people listening each time 55 million worldwide oh yeah yeah

00:49:37.940 i've started i've defended smokers right right that's the background to start my broadcasting career

00:49:43.860 i'll tell you this when i got the invite for lotus eaters uh two or three years ago for my first

00:49:47.700 appearance i i was more pleased with that than i was appearing on the bbc world service glad to hear

00:49:52.900 it oh thank you um well the thing is i think that twitter is going really really well and uh pew study

00:49:58.820 has uh confirmed that um indeed people are the the people who are involved in and paying attention to

00:50:07.140 this sort of ecosphere very much are using twitter uh and this i think is really important for the

00:50:12.500 nature of the discourse because i mean you'll remember five years ago what twitter was like

00:50:16.820 it was a hive of leftists saying yeah we need to kill all white men and that's a good thing and

00:50:21.460 they'll be it'd be completely unchallenged and now i mean i i see these posts every day where they're like

00:50:27.780 my god this is a right-wing hellhole it's like that's great my god this is a right-wing hellhole

00:50:33.060 uh that's wonderful right um but yeah it's a huge number 77 uh of people who just are independent

00:50:40.100 people are on twitter uh nearly 40 percent of adults under 30 now turn to influencers for news

00:50:45.860 leaving traditional outlets in the dust and uh one in five americans rely on citizen journalists

00:50:50.660 to stay informed so these are these are really large numbers and this is why i think right-wing

00:50:54.980 narratives are actually filtering down into the mainstream and becoming a part of just normal

00:51:00.900 conversations look how look how far right the overton windows moved you know if you talk if you

00:51:06.260 talk about re-emigration you know two three years ago you'd be hung drawn and quarters you know

00:51:11.460 and you know and you'd be dead to the wolves now we're openly talking about it and the thing i

00:51:17.060 would say about something i would say about x is that you know i i've got a quite a lively and

00:51:22.660 extensive account and as i showed you before where else for six six pound six pound 99 a month

00:51:29.780 can you get one billion views of your work yeah you showed me your your numbers you know wasn't it

00:51:34.500 like lifetime views that's one year yeah well one year one billion views billion views that's good

00:51:39.220 i don't know how many i guess okay i don't use it that much but anyway sorry go ahead yeah probably

00:51:45.460 out of that probably one to five percent uh uh probably worthy and noteworthy and what have you

00:51:52.020 um so um no i i i let me give an example i think the perfect example where social media uh has worked

00:52:00.180 particularly well on with x um no one uh has done what i've only had 788 million impressions some more

00:52:10.580 impressions than i have yeah well i do about 30 tweets a day so i try not you know i i i go for

00:52:16.820 the i go for the big ones charlie peters on gb news has obviously done a cracking job he's got the

00:52:21.220 national inquiry for the girls you know he's he's showcased and highlighted the victims and survivors

00:52:27.460 but where i think that came from maybe i the one of the reason charlie peters does it for two

00:52:34.420 reasons out out of principle the other one is it brings in the viewers and things like that

00:52:38.980 now where where the viewers come in is from people like myself and maybe toffee rominson who

00:52:43.620 will highlight who have been highlighting the girls plights for years and years and years i probably did

00:52:47.940 my first tweet on it on 10 years ago around the time of the rochdale trailings kind of thing

00:52:53.380 and you know we've talked about it week in week out and gvd knows and talk tv to a certain extent

00:52:59.140 know full well that uh that that will bring in the viewers so it's social media that's transformed

00:53:04.740 itself to to the mainstream media yeah um well they're very much downstream i mean think about

00:53:09.940 the scottish girl with the axe and the knife right if we only had the the mainstream or leftist

00:53:15.300 controlled social media to rely on would we have seen this like would this have been a mega viral

00:53:20.820 story that would actually really emphasize the play and again these are american numbers as well i

00:53:25.060 mean uh ofcom uh are have their own numbers in britain um obviously 96 of adults just in the

00:53:33.140 country do something uh 70 of uh online news um is on par with tv they say and six and ten adults claim

00:53:41.380 to use some sort of online intermediary so social media or a search engine or news aggregator for their

00:53:46.500 news so this this is the way that people are going to get this and of course there's an age cohort

00:53:52.500 here so eight and ten 16 to 24 year olds are using online media to get their their news whereas

00:53:59.460 obviously the boomers are much more offline right they're on facebook aren't they a lot of them are

00:54:05.460 yeah but even then they don't necessarily use that for news they'll watch fox news or sky news or whatever

00:54:10.340 uh bbc go but the the the great thing about this and this is what i mean when i i say that

00:54:16.340 this is genuinely important for narrative because the the concept of narrative control

00:54:22.100 again go back about five years the left had this sewn up you know they would have no we're

00:54:27.140 going to censor this we're going to censor that i mean that's why we stopped streaming on youtube

00:54:30.180 for a long time right um they they were very very insistent on using the platforms they had for

00:54:36.580 narrative control but elon purchasing x really seems to have burst a bunch of bubbles i mean

00:54:42.340 it seems it seems trivial right and it can be used in trivial ways but the community notes feature

00:54:49.140 is actually spectacular because millions of people are now seeing that kist armor has lied over

00:54:54.020 something again really trivial the bus care the bus fare cap being not three percent but two power

00:54:59.140 whatever it is right so it's very trivial stuff but this kind of stuff is very useful because it

00:55:05.140 actually intrinsically limits the power and the persuasive power of the old media and the

00:55:10.580 controllers of the old platforms like they can't just spread a lie now because actually you've got

00:55:15.780 a way of pushing back against it is the reason the guardian for quit x because they would yeah they

00:55:20.420 kept getting community noted and that exactly right so i mean any any any function of a platform that can

00:55:27.140 drive the guardian over to blue sky i fully support you know get get those people out of the discourse

00:55:32.820 because they're they're just that i mean literally them leaving is an admission that they were just

00:55:36.740 here to poison the well anyway right but then you've got amazing community notes like this from the

00:55:40.900 conservatives britain is our home not a hotel and then community notes well the tories opened up these

00:55:45.700 bloody hotels in 2022 like you can't just memory hole things anymore i love the fact that bo just said be

00:55:51.380 quiet you're done uh but you can't just memory hold these things anymore right so the the fact that

00:55:57.220 everyone used to be back in the day we had like you know siloed platforms where we would talk about

00:56:02.900 the things that bother us but it was difficult to make that come in you know inject that into the

00:56:07.060 mainstream well now through these sorts of tools the fact that elon does want a free speech platform

00:56:11.780 the fact he introduced community notes actually allows us to just completely drive the discourse

00:56:17.860 and we've seen this seen this loads of times but this is an amazing example right this is sky news

00:56:24.100 talking about the great replacement now can you imagine sky news putting out a segment like this

00:56:30.500 say five years ago a snapshot of britain in the 80s beachgoers in the seaside town of bournemouth

00:56:38.180 a place which has always been a magnet for holiday makers and seasonal workers fast forward

00:56:45.300 to the final days of this summer and the change is undeniable in the bournemouth area between the 2011

00:56:51.700 and 2021 censuses the non-british born population went up by 47 percent and immigration everywhere has

00:57:00.180 risen significantly since then on the seafront we find immigration is something white british people

00:57:07.220 want to talk about but not openly and not on camera can you imagine that being a segment of sky news

00:57:17.140 news or as damn what comes sly news it's kind of australia takeover recently or something right

00:57:23.540 but the the thing to remember is that all of the journos are on twitter and so not only are they not

00:57:29.620 now in a left-wing echo chamber but they're also seeing i mean there are still lots of leftists on

00:57:35.620 twitter i've noticed that recently um i mean blue sky has been on the decline and you can see like them

00:57:40.420 coming back on twitter you can see you know my feed's giving me more and more lefty twats frankly

00:57:46.820 each one of them with an inexplicable hundred thousand likes on there but almost like they've

00:57:52.260 just paid for a nice pocket hundred thousand likes i'm not going to allow this right i'm sick of people

00:57:58.900 yelling butter butter butter right that's it's such a code definitely happens i'm not saying it doesn't

00:58:03.940 happen but you can't prove it and there are lots of leftists still on twitter can't prove it but i have a

00:58:08.260 gut instinct sure but it's also a cope and there are there are lots of leftists still on twitter

00:58:14.340 and so it's entirely possible they get i don't doubt that but viral to the point of a consistent

00:58:20.500 hundreds of thousands of likes every single time yeah that evan guy and then he tried to ratio me

00:58:26.340 once and must have forgot and his post got like 15 likes and i was like oh oh just didn't feel like

00:58:32.820 shilling out that extra tenner to get me did you evan whoops well you're not important enough yet

00:58:38.740 i i i i think i think i think the islamists and the extreme left have given up with have given up

00:58:43.300 with me to a certain extent yeah i don't know i'll never change yeah but the the the point being

00:58:50.180 the and again it's every day i'll see a new tweet by some guy some some person with a pride flag

00:58:57.860 uh a socialist rose and then the eu flag going this has become a nazi hellhole it's gone i can't

00:59:04.500 believe this is just a right-wing echo chamber now and i'm like that's so good and you'll give it a

00:59:08.500 like but not for the reason he wants yeah exactly yeah yeah like um oh well the the abusive ones i i

00:59:14.020 retweet yeah yeah i repost them you know dave you're a see you something something yeah i repost them

00:59:20.900 and i didn't use my father was uh yeah come dive in and then they pick him off you know that's a

00:59:27.220 lesson that's a lesson learned but the point is i think that this sky news segment would never have

00:59:31.060 been possible if it wasn't for the online right and the discourse there's been frankly you know elon

00:59:36.740 just saying look you i'm just gonna let you have a free discourse have free reign talk about things

00:59:41.700 uh and it wouldn't have been possible if it wasn't for the online right actually having this sort

00:59:45.140 of platform and this ability to do this the left is right that censorship actually does work

00:59:50.260 yeah exactly yeah and at the moment we're winning aren't we yeah we are yeah at the moment we're

00:59:54.500 completely winning but again this segment it was the journalists themselves are at a point now where

01:00:00.740 they know they can't deny it they can see everyone around sees and the only thing left to do is follow

01:00:06.740 the incentive okay well everyone's talking about this everyone's watching us doing this well if we

01:00:11.860 want some of those eyeballs and our numbers have been going down steadily slowly but steadily well we're

01:00:16.100 going to have to we're going to have to engage with it and so the narrative control is what is

01:00:21.780 honestly coming back around to our way i mean like nigel farage is a great example of this right

01:00:26.100 was it six months ago on stephen edgington where he's like no mass deportation is not possible

01:00:30.820 they're not my ambition it's never going to work and now nigel farage is there in front of the giant

01:00:35.220 british flag saying no we're going to deport 600 000 in the first year and that's the end that's the

01:00:39.380 start of it you know it's like look this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for us yeah yeah everyone

01:00:45.140 else is now playing catch-up it's arm like exactly and now uh i've got look at that look at this when

01:00:52.340 nigel farage moans on the sidelines labor is getting on with the job of delivering and what's the job

01:00:57.460 removed over 35 000 from people from the uk with no right to be here now it's bs right there's probably a

01:01:02.740 community note on this no there's not yet but um but the point is this is the competition now who

01:01:09.140 can deport the most nigel farage promising 600k i like the idea of 600k better than 35k kia you

01:01:16.180 better you know tick tock tick tock if you want my vote you're gonna have to crank that number up mate

01:01:21.860 you know farage has promised five deportation flights today how many are you promising

01:01:26.740 kia i think nigel farage is holding the aces and uh you know pre-flop oh yeah yeah absolutely

01:01:33.140 yeah indeed so but no i uh uh it's good though the dialectic is with us i know i i'm loving at

01:01:40.820 the moment yeah yeah we're driving the dialectic because the we are talking about the real things

01:01:45.620 actually benefit the people of this country uh rather than trying to falsely impose a narrative

01:01:51.940 that everyone knows is bad for us and so this is great this is just really great um there is going to

01:01:57.220 be a reaction of course i mean the online safety act which is why we couldn't see the uh the the

01:02:03.380 thing from the last segment uh this is an issue and i don't know what the american's going to do about

01:02:07.620 donald trump seems fairly unbothered by it oh no no no no no the the the american trump's administration

01:02:15.460 yeah it's apoplectic about this i appreciate the administration is and i'm glad that they are

01:02:20.180 um but it's weird that trump himself doesn't seem to be that fussed about i think he's delegated it

01:02:25.220 he doesn't get jd vance yeah oh no no no doubt but like trump knows that a large part of his

01:02:32.500 success was online media i mean he's he's thanked his keyboard warriors right and so going when he was

01:02:37.860 in scotland uh he was asked about the impact of the online safety act on truth social his own social

01:02:43.380 media platform and he said quote well i don't think starmer's going to censor my site because i only say

01:02:48.100 good things now you know will you please uncensor my site it's like i would have thought that donald trump

01:02:54.180 would have been more aggressive i think he's diplomatic i'm sure he is i do yeah i think it's

01:02:59.700 like you know it's the old duck you know you know serenely swimming you know swimming on the pond the

01:03:05.060 old links going 24th a dozen underneath believe you me i i i i there is a there's a group of lawyers

01:03:11.780 one of them is preston burn the other one is ron coleman um they're representing some of the uh tech

01:03:16.820 companies and believe you me they'll they will be taking off com apart oh really okay yeah well fingers

01:03:22.900 crossed i mean it does mention this is my stuff yeah yeah but you know they've said it openly and

01:03:28.420 uh yeah yeah but that's good and you are right um jd vance has been much more firm on this

01:03:34.980 um but the the question is where is this going to go i mean i don't know but i think that one thing

01:03:41.460 that is undeniable is that actually we do need to have these platforms be amenable to

01:03:48.900 large numbers of right-wing people singing from the same hymn sheet and unable to just like they

01:03:55.140 used to just mass de-platform uh people from saying this the government is putting this in set into

01:04:01.300 place frankly to try and get control of the narrative again and so there there i saw aa complaining about

01:04:06.900 saying well look the british government should have the sovereignty to be able to do this okay if they

01:04:11.300 do then we have many more problems than we would otherwise have if the americans are somehow able to

01:04:18.900 force of com's hand right it will have real and dramatic consequences i i i force a complete white

01:04:26.980 flag from starmer and off oh fingers crossed i mean that's what i'm i i'm looking through it logically

01:04:32.660 i can't see any other way that they can do it because you know if you know if of com still maintains

01:04:38.260 its arrogant stance it will directly affect trade trade relations with america you know right okay

01:04:43.860 okay keir starmer like like like india 50 on all your goods and services and and for america we want

01:04:51.540 to be all to be as nice as we can because we actually have a two-to-one trading balance with

01:04:55.220 them where we export twice as much to them as being as we import from them really i didn't know that um

01:05:00.180 but yeah we have to be very nice yes we we really should anyway but um but the point is

01:05:05.780 if we are going to start frankly censoring american platforms uh that is going to have a real impact

01:05:13.220 for the british online right and the nature of politics in this country because at the moment

01:05:17.460 i don't know whether anyone's noticed but we're the people they're talking from right we are upstream

01:05:22.500 of them and what we discuss gets downstream to them and suddenly nigel farage and keir starmer are in a

01:05:28.740 deportation combat you know conflict uh and so yeah the idea that we can just um frivolously be

01:05:35.300 like well you know it doesn't matter let keir starmer censor them because that exerts british power

01:05:40.500 maybe but that's that's that's going to have a problem that's going to cause problems for us

01:05:44.580 in particular and uh it might not be wise absolutely yeah but no i i i i think the online safety act will

01:05:53.940 will die a death at in the and maybe in a year's time that that's my instinct it's it's it's going

01:05:59.700 to become unworkable you know i i i know it's most embarrassing i've been i've been invited to a black

01:06:05.060 black tie event and i put into google um uh you know black tie dress are near me and it's a great

01:06:12.260 places in los angeles i'll tell you so that yeah well i imagine there would be yeah if you're back on

01:06:16.740 tuesday's tuxedo um but yeah i've got a vp now and i i do it from there and i'm sorry i'm sorry i've

01:06:23.700 got off com you ain't gonna win not in one for sundays and i i love the i love the natural thing

01:06:27.860 i was like well the starmer gonna ban vpns it's like sorry are we just consigned are we just resigned

01:06:33.700 to the fact that yeah we've got a tyrannical government just how tyrannical are they going

01:06:37.300 to be so well they're going to ban vpns oh of course they are you know of course why you know

01:06:40.980 not surprised everyone seems to be completely resigned to this idea that the government has every

01:06:45.620 right to tyrannize us yeah is yeah yeah there is absolutely a fatalism in it um no i i know i know i i on

01:06:52.820 this one what is scary is you know we've always had some semblance of real democracy in this country

01:06:58.100 some semblance that used to be quite robust frankly yeah dude yeah and i i just find it shocking

01:07:06.020 by the way i i compare the online safety act to hitler's 1933 enabling act because it basically gives

01:07:12.820 gives the government complete control and power over the internet yeah and social media no it's

01:07:18.580 1933 and i relate as far as i can see it's not terribly different i mean yeah everyone hates

01:07:23.460 uh naughty comparisons they're very gorsh but like the they're they're frankly you're right it allows

01:07:30.100 them to do basically whatever the hell they like sorry sorry sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

01:07:35.780 sorry about that but that's the only example i can think of yeah and and so i i think that basically

01:07:42.260 the online right needs to be aware of its own power and the influence is exerting yeah and the threats to

01:07:48.260 it and the online safety act is genuinely one of them yeah um based ape says someone with 14

01:07:54.660 different flags in their bio is calling you a flag shagger yeah man this is something i see on twitter

01:07:58.660 all the time like there was literally this guy with the ukrainian flag and an eu flag being like i

01:08:02.500 hate those flag shaggers literally before i came on the podcast and i was like am i going to reply to

01:08:06.260 this no i'm not going to bother replying to this um midwit sargon it's not bots bro i swear

01:08:13.220 dimwit harold of the north now it's them bots i tell you yeah absolutely i love i love the

01:08:18.020 uh the mimetic quality well the thing is it might be but it always feels like cope

01:08:22.740 when someone's like oh it's bots it feels perfectly rational to me these people have incentives to try

01:08:28.100 and boost their engagement as much as possible make themselves look like they're on the cutting

01:08:31.700 edge of discussion sure but their politicians aren't talking about the things they care about

01:08:36.020 our politicians are talking about the things we care about matt says i think trump is playing good

01:08:40.260 cop to jd vance's bad cop since jd vance has proved to be involved in an investment firm in

01:08:44.180 technology companies and understands this in negotiations with uk leaders yeah again hopefully

01:08:49.860 that is the case uh dawn says uh the wind is changing stay your course um yes uh and also

01:08:59.220 take a moment to be proud of yourselves as well because everyone like any even if you're like oh i'm

01:09:05.220 i'm only a 200 twitter follower non-account so what you know like every it's all straws getting on

01:09:12.660 being put on the camel's back you know like when when the sky news um journalist opens up the twitter

01:09:18.580 feed and sees nothing but your replies they feel like they're surrounded they feel like this is the

01:09:25.540 pressure to go in this direction one or two banger tweets with like a hundred thousand

01:09:29.060 botted or unbotted likes like that's fine everyone sees it but like that's you know i see evans

01:09:37.060 posts you know every day but that doesn't make me feel like i'm surrounded it doesn't make me feel

01:09:41.460 under pressure but when all of their replies that are just people who are like don't care don't care

01:09:45.780 don't care like that make that that's a psychological effect that you can't buy you can't just bot you

01:09:51.780 know um i know i get a feeling that people like that get a bit of a kinky thrill off of it

01:09:57.460 yeah when they're being humiliated constantly with evan definitely evan definitely but the average

01:10:03.380 sort of you know shit lib mainstream journal wants to feel as if they represent and they are

01:10:09.700 respected uh and they don't you know when they've got people constantly they want to feel like they

01:10:13.940 have the massive public opinion with them exactly and that's why i think sky news are like maybe the

01:10:19.220 replacement stuff is something we've got to talk about yeah um no i i think it's probably fair to say

01:10:24.500 that uh x gives gives mainstream journalists legacy uh media journalists a fresh perspective

01:10:31.460 shall we say yes and we know they're addicted to it they're on all the time there's there's one

01:10:35.940 there's one woman who she's a mainstream uh tv presenter and i did i did a piece criticizing

01:10:43.380 her views on tommy robinson and she was in my dm saying please don't stop

01:10:49.940 point proven exactly you know we we are we are leading the way at this point i said well put me

01:10:54.900 on your show you know i'll show up then you know yeah uh did you see dp audit said did you see me

01:11:01.700 get rejected from the pub for having an england flag and the teachers doing one i did see that well

01:11:06.420 done uh i did not see you there yeah yeah it's it's some uh you know uh karen who's just like no

01:11:12.740 you put up an england flag you can't come in here it's like okay well be aware be aware that pub

01:11:17.780 does not support patriots by the way dp your audience has some great content does he okay i've

01:11:22.420 not follow each other right right okay i've not heard of him before but good job chap uh jr says glad

01:11:26.740 to see you back on youtube couldn't deal with rumbles ui ux i'm happy to see a few flags on my

01:11:30.900 commute to work not many but it's a start yeah i know it's uh it's really really good isn't it

01:11:35.300 and paul says i'm helping to fund the upkeep of harry's mullet thank you very much all of

01:11:39.620 that money will go to the haircut i'm not planning on having i don't think cultural warfare ends at

01:11:45.220 the immigration multiple sites on the live stream we already read that one yes okay and somebody on

01:11:50.260 on the rumble pointed out alex trust johnny somalia need i say more yeah again exactly people like that

01:11:56.900 i'm so glad that is it korea south korea that's jailing him basically um it was korea and then he went

01:12:02.740 over to japan and i think there were reports that japan was just kicking him out of the country

01:12:07.860 deporting him for being a public nuisance and to be honest i i think all countries should reserve

01:12:12.420 the right to kick out any irl streamers going about anywhere because they are literally being

01:12:17.780 putting themselves in a position to be paid to cause trouble yeah it's insufferable yeah so just like

01:12:22.660 ban it as far as i'm concerned well it's such a shame it's such a well-ordered society like japan and

01:12:26.900 korea well yeah i mean i'm i i pointed out that logan paul's the one who started it way back

01:12:31.140 when with the whole suicide forest thing yeah because uh he he even before that he was going

01:12:36.980 around just harassing people in public it was terrible behavior yeah have you seen charlie beach

01:12:43.140 on on um i've seen some of it yeah yeah there's some people describe it as a wide-up merchant merchant

01:12:48.980 but uh i think i think he offers a valuable public service a lot of people when you go into a protest

01:12:54.980 and you're dealing with lefty agitators that's one thing right but when you're just wandering around

01:12:59.140 the street and annoying normal people are just getting about their day that's something totally

01:13:02.340 different oh yeah he's made he's made a star a star of his bodyguard fred oh has he i suppose

01:13:08.900 doing the sort of stuff that he does you'd have to have a bodyguard wouldn't you well yeah two one

01:13:12.260 time so uh apparently i mean to be fair he's in manchester most of the time quite a few people

01:13:16.740 i know in manchester know him or have met him and sometimes sometimes having a bodyguard in manchester

01:13:22.420 sounds like not a bad idea absolutely in piccadilly gardens you got an osmond letter

01:13:27.300 you got what sorry it's got i've got an osmond letter what's an osmond letter uh your your life is

01:13:32.020 is in imminent danger oh right oh all right let's give the video comments

01:13:39.300 though in podcast number 1237 you said that liverpool is an english city that hasn't been

01:13:43.620 captured but unfortunately that's not true the famous scouse accent developed largely from irish

01:13:47.540 immigration which influenced the way people spoke and in elections liverpool tends to have much more

01:13:51.220 in common with ireland than with the surrounding english i met a scouser when heading back towards

01:13:55.140 paddington station after carl's gilgamesh talk in 2019 and he was a left-wing anarchist who had

01:13:59.380 all the insane lefty opinions which still pop up on my facebook timeline in summary liverpool

01:14:03.700 is an irish colony the irish are once again to blame for the problem the english face

01:14:06.900 and colonel goodwood did absolutely nothing wrong

01:14:11.860 all very true as i've said eventually we will take liverpool back from the perfidious irish the irish

01:14:18.740 plantation yes yeah or have you guys also noticed that uh there's been there's been some reason

01:14:24.660 reasonably reasonably good turnouts in liverpool against the island hotels i have noticed that

01:14:30.100 do you remember in the southport riots there's the liverpudlians who are rioting long into the

01:14:33.460 night to like well that's the good thing about the scouse to be fair being totally serious for a moment

01:14:38.900 is that they they're intensely tribal nature they are some of the most tribal people on this island

01:14:46.660 means that they are more likely to come out in force against these things when they're imposed on

01:14:51.460 them much more than other cities across the country i think that they are they are the victims so

01:14:56.260 therefore they're going to defend themselves you know i think i think reform could could make some

01:15:00.660 make some make some headway in the consistency now when you see literally hundreds of thousands of

01:15:06.420 scousers out on the street complaining about immigration you know it's a serious problem oh yeah it's nice

01:15:12.580 see them not just being communists as well

01:15:28.500 this is the country you serve this is the country that you serve

01:15:40.580 that's bloody liverpool really that's manchester

01:15:49.780 old shrinkum yeah oh it's old shrinkum yeah yeah good lads good lads

01:15:55.300 he's a good lad at least so uh defend our island whatever the cuts may be we shall fight on the beaches

01:16:02.820 scott scott scott he does

01:16:10.980 good old ai

01:16:14.180 all right steve says harry finally capitulates the chance request to make a theme song for load

01:16:19.060 seaters the question now becomes will he do enough music for ellie for an album sale i happily would i i

01:16:24.980 would have been happy to do music at any point uh the problem is i've got more than enough material

01:16:29.220 original for uh for an album but i need a new computer because this one dies if i have discord

01:16:35.620 and chrome open at the same time now so i can't use any of my recording software once i get a new one

01:16:41.460 i'll probably do a load more stuff with chris if you've listened to the songs that i did with chris guard

01:16:45.540 on uh on youtube please check it out if you haven't it's called worship of man and who knows what could

01:16:50.580 happen who knows eagle eye says no save the load seaters intro music yeah i'd like to but youtube

01:16:57.140 copyright claimed it so we can't monetize anything it's too late now yeah it's it's sorry it's over

01:17:03.380 harry will do something really good i'm sure yeah what was it peter hitchens said

01:17:08.500 it's over well i guess that's it there you go goon

01:17:11.780 my favorite piece philosophy produced in the past 500 years really uh anyway martin

01:17:23.860 was thinking about obtaining the game fallout london i decided there's no need i could just walk

01:17:27.860 outside and go around for a bit yeah i offered james lizzie if he wants to come around i'll uh

01:17:32.340 i'll take him for a tour um derek says uh who knew that in 60 years paris would be on the level of

01:17:38.580 algae yeah well well i mean there have been prophets in the wilderness saying this sort of

01:17:45.860 stuff haven't they you know so it's there were some people who knew yeah michael says wait wait

01:17:51.540 france is manning up i'm not i'm surprised it usually takes the brits and americans to fight

01:17:55.140 if invaders to france well that's the thing they're not manning up that's the problem what they're doing

01:17:58.740 is locking down the compliant citizens right they're targeting their own people instead of the people who

01:18:04.740 who are the interlopers who are the causing the problems if anything it might make the streets

01:18:08.820 worse yeah because the criminals won't feel like they have to hold themselves back if there aren't

01:18:13.460 any law-abiding uh people on the streets lancelot says i'm the same age as carl and for as long as

01:18:19.380 i can recall politicians always made laws that punished the law abiding and worded them as if they had

01:18:23.620 some kind of effect on criminals who couldn't care less and they think we're the stupid ones well i

01:18:27.700 mean it's called anarcho-tyranny yeah i'm sure it never used to be like uh rothbard got it off sam

01:18:35.300 francis but yeah that was a common phrase used by those guys the old paleos

01:18:43.300 arizona desert rat says maybe this curfew will make it uh it easier to arrest and identify criminals

01:18:48.260 uh well the thing is that like like i said that like with sweden the police would have to go to these

01:18:52.260 communities that actually incede in them and why would you bother it's dangerous but just to not

01:18:58.980 be involved at all right baron von warhawk says congrats france through liberalism and excessive

01:19:04.420 empathy you have wound up bringing back the separate but equal yeah it's mad it's genuinely mad isn't it

01:19:10.020 like again there there is a solution everyone knows the solution but it means just arresting a bunch of

01:19:16.580 people that will have white liberal women screeching and saying no leave them alone

01:19:22.180 i've always said it like the grooming gangs yeah the worst enemy of white working-class girls

01:19:29.540 is white is white middle-class women 100 that's and this was always the problem with all of feminism

01:19:35.860 as well there was this one good morning britain um uh like show that they did where they do you

01:19:42.260 remember the grid girls from formula one yeah right they had so they're attractive working-class girls

01:19:47.780 who are wearing like bikinis or whatever and are waving the grid flags and then you have these dowdy

01:19:52.900 middle-class feminists who know you can't have them anymore grid girls is patriarchal or something

01:19:58.420 and so the f1 banned them and it's like right so you're you you know middle-class professors dowdy

01:20:04.180 unattractive attractive working-class girls who love their job and love doing what they're doing

01:20:08.180 no you're not allowed anymore they should have listened to peter absolutely but the point is

01:20:12.740 you're all right and the pair of the teams went out of their way to make make sure the girls felt

01:20:17.140 part of the team as well yeah oh yeah but yeah yeah they said they had a great time yeah but what

01:20:21.620 you know why why wouldn't you i'm sure everyone was having a great time well yeah until the yeah

01:20:26.580 but everyone was having a great time wives except no no except for the the frumpy middle-class

01:20:31.860 feminist professors who don't watch formula one who just sat there seething just you know you know that um

01:20:37.380 meme of um denethor where he's just seething and it's just like you know so and so for no reason

01:20:44.660 that's what the frumpy middle-class professors were like about the grid girls then was having a good

01:20:47.860 time they're like no we have to ruin this um mr flipple says that roger incident was terrible he

01:20:52.660 was totally out of control people don't understand this but wrestlers rely on their opponents working

01:20:56.740 safely it was minder savagery um yeah i mean if you're doing something like a suplex or something

01:21:03.140 that's it takes two to do something like that uh so and and it especially takes two very skilled

01:21:08.420 and well-trained people to do it safely michael says this will be psycho stew's fault because uh

01:21:14.420 pattern recognition yeah probably henry says whilst i suspect this nepo baby might just get off because

01:21:21.460 of how a jury of his peers tends to act tribally uh if he does get sent to prison then i hope uh the

01:21:26.820 fear of someone else cashing in on the receipt he's built up in this attack causes many sleepless nights

01:21:31.460 if he thinks he feels like a bitch now when he gets if he goes to prison then he'll find out what

01:21:37.460 that means uh but yeah hopefully hopefully if it goes to trial we won't have the same sort of thing

01:21:42.980 that we've seen a number of times in la courts are they based in where are they based i believe the

01:21:49.060 incident took place in la the lapd the ones looking into it so if it goes to trial it'll be in la and

01:21:54.820 hopefully you won't get say like a no j simpson situation hector says he'll get no sympathy from me

01:21:59.860 carl daddy issues or not you don't prove your amount to your dad by losing control that's okay

01:22:04.180 totally true totally fair i'm just very soft-hearted but you are completely correct on that obviously

01:22:11.780 kevin says uh the chinese have the great firewall i can see starma if he decides to block access to

01:22:16.180 vpns pushing for the same thing in the uk well honestly like it's genuinely on the horizon that we

01:22:24.020 could end up with some sort of labor chinese firewall right it's it is on the rise it's

01:22:28.820 the sort of thing like starma has already said well no we're not considering it it's like yeah but

01:22:32.820 you have considered it right also china has a much better bargaining chip on the global stage for

01:22:38.100 being able to impose those sorts of things without fear of too many sanctions because of how much

01:22:43.140 manufacturing and uh and trade goes through there and goes on over there what does what does britain have

01:22:49.700 to offer to say you can't do that a nice dinner at buckingham palace that's about it really isn't it

01:22:56.180 yeah what we got what what's britain producing at the moment uh you can have our weak pathetic green

01:23:02.900 steel drill rap music you can have our drill i'll happily trade the drill rappers for something

01:23:10.420 zesty king says i was at a pub quiz last night the place was full of boomers the host asked a

01:23:14.740 question about politics and when giving an answer went off on both labor and the tories

01:23:18.740 and said that only one party can create real change obviously referring referring to reform

01:23:23.380 the pub then cheered and shouted in agreement it was a very uplifting thing to experience

01:23:26.980 yeah i mean you know as much as everyone on the online rights like nigel farage i'm gonna do it

01:23:31.380 there are millions of boomers who are persuaded at this point that farage is just

01:23:35.220 something that's not the mainstream so good and maybe we with enough pressure we can keep dragging

01:23:43.780 him to the right because like again nigel farage i don't want to do mass deportations to

01:23:48.740 i'm gonna mass deport 600 000 in the first year that's that's result that's progress right so

01:23:55.220 yeah absolutely yeah um tim i'll do some digging for you i might be able to get some of the

01:24:02.500 inside story on that one all right but from what i understand is he's genuinely sincere that's what

01:24:07.060 i've been told so uh you know you really want and uh can we can we trust this though because farage

01:24:13.540 is on every side of every issue at some point in his career i i did did apart from remain

01:24:19.940 actually i did haul that person over the um over the coals over it um and uh i'll uh i'm not too sure

01:24:28.900 whether i can say this but you know um yesterday uh when he was giving out his press conference

01:24:35.380 i'm not sure farage was banging on about uh you know we're not going to use civil servants

01:24:40.260 um we're going to use private barristers

01:24:45.540 gets to arrange that

01:24:46.500 oh okay good thinking yeah excellent i mean that why not like you could do but you you can

01:24:54.420 basically do anything you want privately in this country as well so there's no reason not to yeah

01:24:58.900 sure um uh so well yeah um the phrase i've already is probably not the right one to use but

01:25:06.420 then back then as nigel farage alluded to yesterday um they when they come in come in uh

01:25:12.500 sure they come into power in 2028 with a with a working majority it's a case of right three line

01:25:19.460 whip we're voting for we're getting rid of the human rights act 98 getting rid of um gordon brown's

01:25:25.780 2008 where the civil servants are not liable for their for their mistakes yeah that's going um there'd

01:25:32.100 be a free speech act he needs to make the bank of england accountable to the the parliament again i mean

01:25:37.620 there's just there are so many things that farage needs to do but there's a huge list of things he

01:25:41.940 should have a big list ready to go right now yeah he's got it now i'm not i'm not putting my foot

01:25:49.380 in here but that's my understanding if i do know i said i'll come after you if he doesn't when he

01:25:55.620 backstabbers like david you did this see a lot of it a lot of it seems like wishful thinking though

01:26:01.380 doesn't it like it's like farage is he the guy i don't think he's the guy um i guess we'll find

01:26:07.140 out yeah prove me wrong nigel yeah i certainly certainly certainly certainly his advisors around

01:26:14.500 him are as keen as us shall we say right okay well that's super they know they're holding his feet to

01:26:19.460 the fire and if there is any back backsliding it's whether they can influence him to act rather than

01:26:25.060 just speak words uh uh very little value to me is that is actions yeah which honestly is totally

01:26:33.620 fair someone online says i don't think they're going to sense my sight could be a veiled threat

01:26:39.220 something about it feels very italian um i mean you could interpret it that way but i don't

01:26:44.980 i just don't think that trump would have said it in that way i think he was probably being more

01:26:49.220 congenial and and friendly uh but hopefully jd vance has got the um the steel in him on this

01:26:56.740 subject although i mean he did go over and give the eu a rollicking about free speech so i don't

01:27:01.220 doubt this something really does matter to him um jimbo says as it gets as it gets worse the foreign

01:27:07.060 spies who run us will unironically try and ban x in the name of national security i bet you there's

01:27:11.700 plenty of super injunctions that would explain their behavior yeah this is definitely something that

01:27:15.860 is something to be wary of is that it's entirely possible that i've already seen them seeding

01:27:23.860 articles about it saying these like oh there's a lot of hate speech on x there's a lot of potential

01:27:28.580 problems coming off x like i've already seen the seeds of it and so at some point i do think they

01:27:34.260 will probably uh make some kind of move against it so don't get comfortable um genuinely i i think

01:27:42.980 it's something to worry about um arizona deserat says time position now has two million signatures

01:27:50.980 i assume she means petition yeah i think she means petition yeah uh luckily he's in florida where

01:27:56.180 de santis is still governor that guy shouldn't have ever got a cdl um well yeah is that the um the

01:28:02.580 petition for the guy who ran over people in the lorry that must be what that must be what she's

01:28:07.220 referring to there hard yeah uh i would hope that it takes a lot more than a random petition

01:28:13.940 to get manslaughter or murder charges thrown out of court so it seems it seems like impotent wailing

01:28:21.300 as far as i'm concerned but it does demonstrate something very worrying about the tribal ethnic

01:28:27.940 preference that no matter what the circumstances are what the action is that's been that's happened

01:28:33.780 they're more than willing to just say uh no that's not a problem no that's that's that's not a

01:28:39.140 problem we shouldn't be punished for it people who look like me should be able to murder and get away

01:28:43.140 with it mad no i don't agree with that actually whether it's carmelo anthony whether it's uh whoever

01:28:48.980 the indian guy was driving that truck whether it's somebody who looks like me if it was a if it's a

01:28:53.460 white blonde haired guy justice is justice right and wrong is still right and wrong that's maybe that's

01:28:58.580 just a very western centric euro centric way of thinking i'm beginning to suspect it is beginning

01:29:03.860 to really suspect that it is we're in the west i don't care but yeah exactly you know justice is

01:29:08.660 justice and that's how it should be and uh with that uh one last super chat um being polish and living

01:29:14.180 the uk i'm feeling optimistic seeing all the uk and st george flags around finally guys keep it up uh

01:29:19.540 and expand from here rupert lo for benevolent tyrant love my island of four yes go and get your island of

01:29:24.740 four while it's on sale and when it's gone it's gone forever link in the description

01:29:28.420 i hope you've bought one already because if not you don't know how long i get it all day every

01:29:32.900 day can i get a copy of island of three or two or one i'm like no right comment yeah it was it was

01:29:37.700 that they're they're filling carl's mattress and that's where they'll stay forever they're a moment

01:29:42.660 in time and once that moment's gone it's gone so yeah yes and with that by islander thank you very

01:29:48.500 much for joining us and to everybody who sent in a rumble ramp or a super chat thank you very much

01:29:53.540 thank you to you dave thanks a lot guys love i love coming down here pleasure having you on

01:29:58.340 all right we'll see you again tomorrow and until then take care

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - August 27, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1239

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