The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1239
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In Episode 1239 of Lotus Eaters, we discuss France's immigration curfews, how a wrestling company almost had someone get murdered live on stage, and how they can't stop the signal from going out at night.
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eaters episode 1239. I'm your host Harry joined today
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by Carl and returning guest David Atherton. Thank you for joining us in the studio. How are you
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today? I'm very glad you had a great journey down here. The stars are light and I was an hour and
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half early so I'm very pleased about that I must say. Very very rare for GWR to treat anybody so
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kindly these days so I'm glad that you didn't come into any... I gave myself three chances to get
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here on time when it comes to trains. Well there you go. Today we're going to be talking about
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France's immigration curfews, how a wrestling company almost had someone get murdered live on
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stage and how they can't stop the signal. For everybody watching right now on YouTube where
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we're live streaming, please don't forget to send any super chats if you want to help contribute to
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the business. Every little helps and we love to hear what you have to say as well. So with that
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let's get into the news. Right well nobody seems to be talking about it but France is entering into
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a period where they're going into what I guess we can just call immigration lockdowns as in cities
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are imposing curfews on young people between the hours of like nine o'clock and six o'clock in the
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morning because of the problems of mass immigration. Now as you can see France has had a vast amount of
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mass immigration. I think there's some chance in here. There we go. So you can you can see that this
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is in the millions and this is from 2018. I couldn't I couldn't find any really good data frankly
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because France for some reason doesn't keep any track of the ethnic information of the people who
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they're letting into the country or the the ethnic information they have is very like very difficult to
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find for some reason. I assume it comes from their sort of French Revolution Enlightenment
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perspective where it's like ah a man has set foot on France. He is now a Frenchman and you know we are
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going to have this sort of hyper narrative of the liberal civic order imposed upon him. Of course the
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immigrants aren't really up and they don't really care about that but it means that the French have
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much more difficulty actually collecting reliable figures than we do. But anyway as you can see there
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there are millions of people from Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia and various other African countries.
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The number of European immigrants has remained the same or has shrunk a little bit. But as you can see France
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is getting the same basic problem that we have. And again just actually counting the number of immigrants
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in France is something that's possible because at least you know they've got to give out the visas but
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counting the number of white French people in France is a much more difficult because they just don't keep
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this data. But as of 2021 there were 7 million immigrants living in France which is 10.3% of the total
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population of 68 million. Allegedly 68 million. 4.1 million were foreign nationals and 2.4 million had acquired
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French citizenship. Now again that doesn't actually speak to how many French people are in France. What that
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speaks to is how many legally French people were born overseas. But anyway so France has had real problems
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of crime. Like this has been an ongoing thing for many years and it's the reason that Marine Le Pen's
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party is currently leaning in the polls. And it's got to the point now where they're just uh no we're
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just gonna have to have uh curfews. Just lockdowns for young people. Is this one of the many benefits of
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multiculturalism I keep being told about? Yes an overreaching tyrannical state. I'm feeling
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enriched already. Very honestly you're gonna feel very enriched by the end of this. So cities such as
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Saint-Ouen, Bézier, Limogée or Nîmes I think it's pronounced? I don't know. Nîmes. Nîmes is it? Right okay I don't know.
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Frog sounds. Yeah exactly yeah exactly frog sounds. Uh they they've imposed nighttime curfews for minors.
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So the European Conservative reports, under these rules young people cannot be out at night unless
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accompanied by an adult. The official reason is to curb crime and drug trafficking that have taken
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over entire neighborhoods. Many residents applaud it. Others accept it with resignation but everyone
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knows that there's a more profound message. The state admits the streets are no longer safe and the
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only guarantee to keep teenagers away from violence is to lock them up at home. It's going great.
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It's a very sad society when you have to have to crack down on teenagers from you know with curfews like
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that. Instinctively I'm sort of a liberal in the sense that you know I don't like restrictions from
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the state but do they have any choice? Is this an overreaction? I don't know. Well they made the
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choice and then they let in millions and millions and millions of people and these are the consequences
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of those choices. All of this originates from decisions that were made long ago and this is just
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the downstream effects of it. Yeah the immigration chickens have come home to roost in other words.
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Yes. That is precisely what this is. The interior minister recently described drug trafficking as
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quote an existential threat to France because it's such a huge problem. You can imagine how this comes
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the drugs are grown in North Africa uh funneled up across the Mediterranean through like Marseille
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and then into the rest of the country or they come up through Spain and across the Pyrenees.
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And this is a massive problem and there is a distinct ethnic dimension to it. It's North African gangs or
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Albanian gangs doing it. And so does France also have problem with Albanian drugs gangs? Yeah they do
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actually. What a shock. It's not just Britain that has this problem uh but the the European conservatives
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say so uh what's surprising about this really is the response because it's been going on for years.
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Uh instead of reinforcing the authority of the state in cutting crime at its roots the government
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has opted to contain measures that restrict to containment measures that restrict citizens
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freedom. Uh the curfews are a band-aid solution a political gesture that's meant to reassure the
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population but as some open as some mayors openly admit with no tangible results. Weirdly,
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this is going to sound really shocking, the drug traffickers don't care about the curfews.
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I can't believe they're not respecting the rules. And also it's for minors anyway according to this
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headline at least so. So the adults who are taking advantage of young sort of street. Like
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we rules in France then. Right. Yeah. And so it it doesn't solve any of the problems. I guess it does
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protect young people from falling prey to the gangs uh in a way but again the the whole issue is we've
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brought a bunch of foreigners over so now french teenagers aren't allowed to go out at night yet.
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It's like thanks thanks very much. Is that fair trade? It seems like a perfectly fair trade doesn't
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it? It's like so horrific things have to do but again it didn't used to be like this you know when
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you know when we were younger it wasn't. Is this not being mirrored in in Sweden, Spain, Germany?
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It just didn't used to be like this. When I was a teenager you didn't think about crime. You just went
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out and had a good time with your mates. Yeah. You know see see see if anyone looked old enough
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to buy some beers. So you know. Yeah I was shocked at 18 when someone smoked a spliff.
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Yeah right. You know but shocked. But like we'd see if I'm one of our mates who had a fuller beard
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than the rest could go and pass for an adult and not get ID'd and buy some beer so we could drink
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piers in the local park. Now it's like no you're not allowed out or the police will come and arrest you.
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Yeah. So anyway yeah I mean obviously the uh the issue and as they tell us is about immigration.
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Even more worrying is the deliberate avoidance of the addressing of the root causes. Various
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studies point to the uncomfortable truth. Mass uncontrolled immigration is closely linked to
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a rise in crime. A recent report showed that a rate of involvement of African foreigners in violent
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crimes is three times higher than that of French nationals. So that's not right okay. So we know the
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problem and we know who's doing it and you're going to have to stay in your house whether you like it
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or not. And this is and the thing is well like there's always these sort of well a multicultural
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pluralist state actually requires a very powerful leviathan to come and put the hand down hard on
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everything to make sure everything uh frankly doesn't blow up in everyone's faces. Um nobody asked for
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that. You know France used to be quite a free country. It used to be able to just live normally
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in France uh same as over here. Um but now this has been sacrificed and this again but this doesn't
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solve any of the problems right. This isn't going to stop drug trafficking in France and it's not going
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to stop uh the the people doing it and it requires again a certain level of consent from the community
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right. If you've got ethnic enclaves all around French cities you think they're engaging in a
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curfew and they're young people? Of course not. How do you expect these people who are involved in
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drugs to play a straight bat with anything you know? Exactly but how do you expect communities
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who don't consider themselves to be French to give a damn what the French government's going to do?
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Are you going to send police in there? Do you think there's going to be a mass community riot in
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this thing? I mean you're like you know it's just not worth our time. I can see but I can see
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whether it's going to Professor David Betts. You know um you know he's warning that uh he's a
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profession professor of modern warfare at King's College University. Yeah he he foresees civil war
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in Europe and not only does he see in a country once it kicks off in one country it will spread
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throughout Europe. Yeah um the thing is as well like this creates a two-tier society for the French.
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Now you are living under regulations that don't really apply to these immigrant communities because
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the French government is going to be too scared to police them anyway. So it's assuming you're
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going to cooperate and it doesn't solve any of the problems. We're back at two-tier policing like in
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Britain again. Yeah exactly so the French are going to get two-tier policing as well. Anyway so this is
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happening everywhere the the latest city to adopt such measures is Nîmes as you say. Uh authorities
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there uh state of the curfew is aimed at protecting miners under 16 for from exposure to violence and to
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reduce street tensions. Uh in recent weeks several shootings have been reported one of which occurred
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in broad daylight leaving one person dead and several others others injured. Uh just like last
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week a 19 year old was found burned as in the body had been burned and the the it was found in the
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streets. Uh the mayor said the curfew was in effect from 9 p.m to 6 a.m because the situation had become
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untenable. The drug traffickers had created a climate of fear and terror. I mean I can't
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hope but feel that there's a becalian solution to this. There are drug traffickers they're creating
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a climate of fear and terror. What about the human rights of the law-abiding people? I know you don't
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get human rights you get locked up in your homes and they get the free run of the streets.
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Well indeed it's uh it's uh it's what it's what it's one of those conundrums which which we as a
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society and and and and in France as a society have to have to vote on you know where where do we stand
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you know you know it does appear that if you go go completely liberal you will lose you will lose
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complete control of the streets. Yes. You know um you know you know where where is the line between
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safety and um you know security um Europe has painted it painted itself in such is into such a
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bad corner at the moment that we don't know what we're doing and it will only end badly for all of
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us. And moreover why is it that the rights of the criminals always have to trump the rights of the
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citizens? That's that's the real issue right? The deputy mayor uh said that this is to prevent
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children as young as 12 or 13 from being exploited by drug traffickers. It's like lock them up.
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Lock them up. Lock them up just god damn it man you know like just the the the tyranny of human
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rights is causing this to come into existence. Oh indeed yeah. That's the problem. I don't know
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what the criminal wage and responsibilities in France but you know you know I'm sorry if you're
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12 13 and you're a drug mule you should be in secure accommodation. Sure but like if you're 12 or 13 and
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the streets are dangerous and this is a way of making money and finding some sort of protection
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then I can understand why it would be a rational incentive to follow. But the issue is there are
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adults doing this to these children. Okay finally adults lock them up. It's not up at their human
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rights. Screw their human rights. At what point did people vote that American ghetto culture was
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something to be emulated? Because what you're just describing there as this is the stories of
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countless children from ghettos who get drawn into these gangs because of the kind of circumstances that
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you're describing there the atmosphere. Yeah and the and and this really is an excessively liberal
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position that France has been uh employing in their own country and now you can see this this is the
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result this is the end result of unlimited human rights in all aspects of society right this is where
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you come to. Bézier has also enforced a similar curfew which it did last year which is slightly less
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draconian but still uh and despite this efforts the the problem continues. The thing is there have
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been loads of shooting in Nîmes uh this is from 2023 this is from last month like it's no no no
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different really at all uh the 2023 one was obviously uh terrible but what's interesting is that these are
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not ethnically French people who are being shot uh the first victim was called Fayyed for example um
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Algerian North African exactly they're they're all North African gangs not just Algeria but you know
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the whole Maghreb basically um and a lot of people are getting caught in the crossfire there's a 10
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year old who just had the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time just caught in
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the crossfire. That's that's that's that's collateral damage that you get when you have gang gang wars in
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cities like that. Yeah it is and you think okay well isn't it justified to uh literally just arrest
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them all and then sort it out afterwards uh because this is literally to protect children in your city
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and yet for some reason it's still going on this is like I said from last month
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uh this was just a manhunt was underway because six people were shot thankfully none of them died uh
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because of a drug crime shooting uh in the thing uh these were these people weren't targets of the
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criminals either these were just stray bullets that were hit uh and police are like Jesus Christ
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um and so the gunman was on the loose I've no idea I haven't followed up so I don't know if he's
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still uh at large or anything but this this very quickly yeah go ahead the the the murder rate in
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France is 50% higher than Britain yeah it's crazy it's absolutely crazy um this is uh an incredible
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like story this sounds like something out of a movie right this is from 2024 uh four hooded gunmen
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rammed a prison van with two vehicles and then open fire killing two guards and wounding several others
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their objective was to free mohammed amra a french criminal
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french doing a lot of heavy lifting i don't know what he's talking about harry a lot of french
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criminals are called mohammed uh who's being transported from a court to a hearing in rouen
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uh from a court hearing in rouen to a secure facility in evru uh after releasing amra the
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criminals fled in two cars which were later found burnt uh this attack sparked a massive
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manhunt etc etc but that that sounds like something out of a movie doesn't it it sounds
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like the beginning of a batman movie and amra apparently according to this article is a lifelong
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criminal whose record dates back to when he was 15 years old that's correct uh he's obviously
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someone you want in your community he should be on the streets yeah thank you for inviting him
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into france yes he doesn't doesn't know any other way to live yeah he has links with a
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marseille drug gang called the blacks um i don't know if that's descriptive or not yeah i but uh but
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the point is um one senator said uh we are not a narco state but we are approaching a weakening of
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power that is a sign of a narco state so we're becoming a kind of mexican style cartel fuel drug state
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uh open defiance of the rule of law here yes open defiance and and just the the power of the gangs
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is the issue because this is the problem that the french state is having real difficulties actually
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putting this stuff down it's like okay well you know you you believed in the multi-culti liberal
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paradise how's it working out and the answer is not great well the big question is what what what what
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what we as a continent europe can do about it well uh they're going to be things that aren't very
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liberal um but they will require mass expulsions frankly so why are there so why are there millions
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of north africans in france the simple reason that algeria was a french colony for of course yeah and
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the the french thought that they could have the kind of flat abstract view of citizenship where it's just
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like if you are named a french citizen then you are french and so they tried to expand that to all
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of north africa and the north africans were like no if you look at what what donald trump trump has
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done with washington dc apparently there was 11 days it might have grown even more 11 days without
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murdering washington dc i think you said the national guardian you got to be robust you know and once
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you once you cure the violence you can then go back to being liberal again yeah the the and you can just
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have a free country again you know but you you have to crack down on this hard i mean bukele showed
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ever on the way right you know the the plummeting murder rate of el salvador because he locked up like
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one percent of the country's population that was terrorizing the entire place and it's the same
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problem in france yeah i mean we've got uh an interesting sort of profile on france here if i can
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scroll down to the uh the drugs aspect of it and i just didn't realize how big a problem uh drugs were in
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france uh heroin trafficking is prevalent in the country with networks involved in trade buying the
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drug from neighboring countries heroin is mostly produced in afghanistan and then transported to
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france via belgium or the netherlands before being redistributed uh the northern department of france
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especially the city of lily is a major hub for heroin trafficking whereas traffic from the alps region
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is controlled by albanian mafias incredible and obviously there are other drugs but they're the main
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like problem drugs and then you can see a second route is by french guyana where cocaine is
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transported by road to suriname and then flown to paris using human mules or sent in cans through
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postal parcels and so this is just brilliant and is required the french states the french cities say
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yep we're just gonna have to have these crackdowns strikes me as a death as a death spiral yeah it looks
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that way especially as uh like the authorities have admitted this hasn't worked it hasn't
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prevented the spread of drugs i mean it's probably saved a few kids from being sucked into the gangs
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but the the gang members themselves are still on the streets they're still at large and nothing
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is being solved there are also other problems it's not just violence and it's not just drugs
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you can imagine how things are going for french women these days we have a chart in this which
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28 16 to 2023 so in 2016 and in 2023 i mean it doesn't even fit on the screen uh the number
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has more than doubled of sexual assaults on women so from 51 000 in 2016 to 114 000 in 2023 uh
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this is pretty out of control i mean nothing from jk rowling on this
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like the same same with the the scottish woman you know the scottish girl with the knife and thing
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jk rowling didn't mention it by the way the britain statistics are even more horrific
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oh i know i know since 2000 since 2000 has been a nine-fold increase in rape in this country
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yeah and and and the spike began in 2014. yeah and uh in in london in particular there was a there
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was one particular graph i just kept posting uh shit libs on twitter whenever they'd say oh london's
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perfectly safe and it's it's a bbc graph that just shows sexual assaults have increased by four
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times in london it's like is it is it really or is it that you're not a woman and you don't care
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about these things um so yeah the point being things are going badly in france and suddenly
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this puts into perspective how marine le pen can be such an inevitable figure in french politics at
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this point it's like you know are they going to allow are they going to allow well they obviously
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banned her from standing her party though yeah i i don't know i mean they who knows what kind of
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underhanded things they're going to do you know to try and stop them from being but the the the
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reason that europe seems to be going to the right is because things are falling apart i mean it's not
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just bad here it's really bad there i mean and thing is france just seems far more violent like the the
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level of violence that these gangs are perpetrating like things are bad here but this is way worse
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to me um and so it's it's no great surprise that they have to try and do something but curfews are
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of course not going to work the only thing that's going to work is sending these people home the other
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thing the other thing the other thing about about the french government is their welfare is quite
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generous is it is equal if not more generous than ours so why why why why force yourself against to get
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get you know a proper job you know oh yeah i mean the france just like britain's riddled with
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problems um but yeah so leave that there um the engaged few says how do you say enrich me harder
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in french i did just look that up on google when i saw it apparently it's a enriching more plus fort
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oh very good so there you go you've learned something yeah uh logan says can't wait can't france with its
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famous foreign legion absorb all this new manpower willing or not and then retake the empire uh the these
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people are people that you doubtless cannot make do something useful with their time uh i can't
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imagine for a second that the french government would benefit by training and arming them i mean
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that's got to be a bad idea right yeah yeah no that wouldn't be a good idea the other the other major
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worry with france is because of the the sort of eliterranean it's far easier of bringing guns to
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france to the south south coast yeah you know i've i've seen i've seen ak 47's brandished in uh
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you know in the states in marseille not yeah i mean yeah oh yeah marseille is it's crazy um not just
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that though there's overland routes as well that the again it's just far easier to get into france than
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it is to get into britain for example a little more porous you know the borders i suppose there's
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probably quite quite a bit of corruption going on as well so no doubt yeah indeed yeah so no we uh you know
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it's uh there will be difficult times ever for europe you know rest assured of that yeah i mean
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we think it's bad in britain and it is but it's also bad everywhere else i think ours could end up
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getting far worse in the future i just get that impression yeah there's definitely a strong feeling
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of i've had enough of all of this um alex says when are we going to draw a line between the leftists
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having real epiphanies about crime and immigration versus those just figuring out which way the wind is
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blowing and trying to avoid a possible future justice well uh i'm not sure we will be able to
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draw any lines like that i'm afraid one of the one of the the eternal problems with these kind of
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revolutions you get a bunch of people suddenly like homer simpsoning back into the the bushes
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and then coming back and it's like you know the point is at least it's going in our direction
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but sorry let's let's carry on well well so we've got a super chat from homeworld who was just asking
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what happened to the intro slash outro music yeah that was why i was shifting my all right yeah
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because it was blocking oh yeah right it's it's right there we don't want to miss those i don't
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know i know has anything gone on with the intro outro music samson yeah when when we first started
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on youtube we just said okay we'll buy that tune and uh that's totally fine and at some point in the
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intervening years they've decided to copyright claim that music on youtube so we can't like monetize
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the story i have some original music well you can happily buy the copyright well why not that's the
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thing harry you know so you need to write us some new intro music uh i i could try and do something
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like that yeah why not actually there was i did actually write like an ambient synth wave song five
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years ago i can try and dig up the files for that and maybe see if we can do something with it exactly
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that that's why the intro music is gone because youtube starts striking us i did not know that uh
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xavier says g'day don't forget there'll be a countrywide pro australia protest on the 31st of august
00:24:17.300
deus vault uh i strongly agree says my good friend and the world needs a european donald trump
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uh make europe great again yeah unfortunately there's not going to be a european donald trump
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um also i know we've got the eu but europe is not a series of united states like the united states
00:24:35.380
anyway you'd really need some kind of major coordination going on between all of the european
00:24:40.820
leaders all pushing in the same direction which sounds like herding cats to me yeah frankly i mean it
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definitely is anyway we'll carry on yes all right so this story's been blowing up on the internet a
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little bit so being the resident wrestling guy in the office i thought it would be appropriate for me
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to cover there was a video that goes with this but frankly i don't know if it's appropriate to show on
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youtube and it appears that maybe our lotus eaters account isn't age verified let me see oh no it isn't so
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we can't watch the video which is probably just as well because it is pretty brutal because you may
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have already come across this now what this is related to is a small wrestling organization called
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knox pro who are or were as we'll see affiliated with wwe they are run by ex-wwe wrestler rikishi who if you
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watch the attitude era you might be familiar with and this was a wrestling event where as part of it
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there was a streamer raja jackson the son of the former ufc i think lightweight champion rampage
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jackson was involved in an altercation it's a good name rampage jackson he seems level-headed
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well no it's his son yeah i know but like does the apple fall far from the tree uh well i mean
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the people have been mischaracterizing somewhat rampage's reaction to this whole thing saying that
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he was basically victim blaming the guy that his son almost killed uh but if you actually watch
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what he's been saying he's basically saying no it's my son's fault i'm ashamed of him so people
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have been mischaracterizing what he's been saying and it's in a quite unfair way but basically what
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happened was uh in the video itself you can find this if you if you've got a strong stomach uh this
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guy raja jackson jumps into the ring picks up a guy whose stage name is psycho stew his name in real
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life is stewart smith uh lifts him up body slams him a really harsh looking one and then proceeds to
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punch him directly in the face apparently was unconscious yeah while he's unconscious he looked
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unconscious 22 times in a row now for those of you who may not be aware i'd like you to hold on to your
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hats because this might be a shock to you but professional wrestling is fake it's what's known
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as a work the performers are cooperating with one another to put on a show and simulate violence now
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this doesn't mean it doesn't hurt there's enough wrestlers who've gotten addicted to painkillers over
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the years to tell you that it does hurt that met wrestling mat is a thin piece of uh padded fabric
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over wooden boards so if you have your head slammed hard enough against it it hurts and you can break
00:27:26.100
your back and do all sorts of things this was not fake this was not planned he knocks him out and then
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brutally takes advantage of him it's what's known in the business as taking liberties harry no one in
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the chat believes you everyone's convinced that no i'm joking listen guys hulk hogan slamming andre yeah
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that was impressive very strong thing to do they'd agreed no no they they they know they know yes so
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the audience is well aware we're all on the same page now so he was taking liberties with him and
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there's been a lot of people trying to justify it mainly roger jackson is black mainly a lot of people
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online uh black uh communities on twitter and elsewhere online have been trying to justify it or make
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excuses or say that it's psycho stew's fault because of an altercation that took place before
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the event but let me see if i can find it just a just as a um some context as well uh people have
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been pointing out that this raja jackson uh fellow has tried oh yeah here was here was the aftermath
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yeah i mean it was horrific you can see he's bleeding from his ears as well as his as well as his nose and
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his eyes he suffered multiple broken bones in the face and jaw didn't he get a bunch of teeth knocked
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out yes and a number of teeth which knocked out he was choking on his teeth thankfully we can confirm
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the guy is alive and he is conscious as far as i'm aware but this was completely uncalled for liberty is
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taken when this guy in real life you know he's trained for w for uh mma ufc style fighting but his
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professional record is zero and one yeah he's not won an actual professional mma fight i think he had
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a few victories as amateur so this just seems like the impotent rage of a failure who can't emulate
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his father's success being taken out on this guy and there are videos that seem to confirm it was so
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brutal to watch as well man i saw the the video going around twitter like everyone and he just lifts
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him up slams him down it looks like he knocks him out because he bangs his head down yeah again if you
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do that you can knock yourself out on those things it's only it's only a thin padding yeah and then
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he just starts smashing him in the face it's like it's a wild fury it's horrific people started to ask
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why that was why did and now i'll see if the clip okay here's here's a clip of him fleeing the scene
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and you can see how totally secure in himself this guy is i apologize for those of you who may be
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watching with families there is some foul language here
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one of the little bits bit me i'm tired of everybody playing with me i think i'm always playing
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call me no no at the end of the day i'm gonna stand up for myself because i'm tired of everybody
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playing with me bro look at his face there's one of the wrestlers who broke up the altercation in the
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ring come on roger let's go let's go roger let's go let's go let's go very very frustrating his life
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well yeah he can't emulate his father's success uh he's just he's a kick streamer and all of this was
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caught live on kick and unfortunately for him let's see if that will this be age restricted yeah
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here's a bunch of clips put together to show the full context i won't show everything here because
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it's about four minutes long uh but this should give an indication so there's behind the scenes
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they're backstage talking this uh this this guy here with the beard and the belly is psycho stew who
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he assaulted later on and stew seems to be under the misapprehension that he's involved in the work
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and so he picks up a can and smacks it against his head and uh it seems for a little bit like they
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managed to sort it out and shake hands and apologize
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he's not a worker bro yeah what is that you're good you're good you're good you're good you're good
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you don't sell it bro bro so you're gonna sell it selling means make it look like it hurts
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he thought he was involved in this and he wasn't it was a mistake he always think that we're working
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over here like it's part of the storyline he's apologizing straight away because he always think
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so so it looks like they've apologized and what he agrees to do after this is he says we'll give you a receipt
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within the business if somebody's in the ring and they're supposed to like throw a punch at you
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and just fake it and they actually clock you in the face and maybe break something or just really
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hurt you and start taking liberties you're justified in giving what's called a receipt
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where you give it back just as good as you get but you're only supposed to give as good as you get
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you're not supposed to take liberties the way that he did so it was supposed to be like yeah you get to
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go in the ring i'll let you give me a body slam and you can get one hit in we're even that was the
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agreement and then the problem for raja because i don't believe he's been arrested yet is that uh
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well he was live streaming on kick the entire time so some people have tried to say that oh well they
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said he could punch as much as he wanted so it's justified right well actually he was sat there by
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ringside talking to his chat the entire time live on stream talking about how he was going to take
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liberties with this guy and saying hey how much you pay me to beat his ass i'm going to stream
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incriminate myself if he hits me back for real i don't give a i want him to y'all want me to teabag
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him people think people think game right you're right joe i gotta show some form of respect train
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no goddamn martial arts i'm really going to hit him i'm telling you what should i do chat should i
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pick him up should i slam him first or hit him w if i should slam him first not
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around you don't think i can do it mig miggy my dad can't never call me a bitch dude oh you think
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he's stronger than me all right suave watch shut the up shut the up up suave i bet you wouldn't be
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talking like this if you was in front of me chat watch what i do to tony i'm gonna show you i'm gonna
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show you tony a few moments later tell you guys did they told me to hit him and just leave somebody
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who pulled me off of him and leave i'm telling you i'm gonna hit him as many times as i can watch
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no they didn't tell me to fake him they said i could hit him for real
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okay well that's that's as much incriminating yeah there you go so there's a they're gonna hit
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him for real i'm gonna hit him as many times as i can and then he goes and does they said i
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could hit him once well i'm gonna hit him as many times as i can okay great you've just incriminated
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yourself you absolutely more while coming across like the most insecure bitch imaginable you can see
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like he shook hands with him as far as like honorable gentleman's agreement goes it was a mistake
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here's how we're going to make it up to you we've shook on this i've apologized you've accepted the
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apology that's as far as it goes you go in you get your extra hit in and then you leave it's all part
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of the show right but he is legitimately furious and you can hear he sees this as and it seems to
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stem from like his dad as well he's like my dad can't call me a bitch anymore over this it sounds
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like it sounds like maybe after he lost his one professional match that he was in his dad may have
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made a joke or two and like that he's just decided this is how i'm gonna get you back dad just as a
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dad don't ever do that to your son you know you even if he loses you've got to be supportive he
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strikes me as a very very angry man you know who who who was taking his frustrations out on life on
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that wrestler oh that's terrible that's appalling behavior you know i've actually seen that the clip
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itself you know 20 20 22 hits he gives the guy that's absolutely disgraceful but the thing is now
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now i'm actually starting to feel a bit bad for him right because if he okay you you you go for a
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a professional mma match and you lose okay fair enough that happens right and if your dad then
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insults you after it i can see that and that's just speculation on my part but it's what it comes
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across what it comes across as motivation is it if that's the case it's not it's not it's not just
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it's not just bad when like a random person does it is you know okay thanks buddy uh you know but
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your dad is obviously the person you look up to the most these most mma fighters and professional
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boxers i've met are the most passive people you'll ever meet they are so laid back well they should
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be dangerous people yeah i know i know i know but even i think they're naturally like that as well
00:36:40.180
they don't train themselves to be passive they actually are like that from for all the violence
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that they meet out in the ring you know they're doing training and things like that no it's the
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antidote to their to their to their aggression they say well they're going to the ring you know it's like
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i'm relatively passive myself you give me a pair of football boots and i'll become the most
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nasty person in the world nobby stars on steroids you know you know we don't know
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viddie jones on steroids yeah that's what i like on twitter to me i'm joking james lindsey knows well
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yeah someone's got to teach you so yeah that's what i'm saying my aggression for and i've learned to be
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passive on twitter to on next you do have to be as well sorry carry on yeah but um you know his like
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rampage jackson's been spoken about this in this little clip it's summed up pretty well here he says
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don't condone what my son did i'm gonna let justice play out wish i could have been there
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hopefully one day i can meet psycho stew and shake his hand i hope he can forgive me as a dad for not
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understanding everything to be honest with you that's as good a statement on it as you could
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possibly hope for yeah like you learn that your son has brutally assaulted somebody like this again
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i've not seen anything where it seems like rampage jackson has been condoning this or trying to make
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excuses for it at all so respect to him for that also amusingly people found this clip from him
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a month ago or earlier on this very month where he said that he's got you know he's got children
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from different mothers he's got two kids uh who were who were just like um black americans like him
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and two kids who are like half japanese and he was just saying like oh yeah you know i know my japanese
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kids are going to college so i'm saving up college money for them but with raja and my other one you know
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i save up bail money for them so it's like it's like he already knew that they were going to do
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something stupid or at least raja was going to do something stupid which uh which doesn't look
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good on raja's part where even his dad's like yeah he's gonna he's gonna get in some kind of trouble
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one of these days there there is a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy aspect to this as well
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though i mean it's not gonna be the first time he said something like that to him yeah surely it's a
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father you know he's obviously spotted what's going on here sure he's a father he should have done
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something about it in a more positive way and notice how in the previous one he's like i hope
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he forgives me as a father right now he he actually invokes that himself so this this is obviously
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something that's been on his mind yeah i imagine when something like this happens you ask you begin
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to ask yourself where where you could have done better what you could have done better to avoid
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your son getting in a situation like this uh the wrestlers involved this was one of the wrestlers who
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pulled jackson off of psycho stew uh has basically just said like what the hell are you doing we're
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not trained to fight martial arts this whole thing is a work uh like you don't you don't do that to
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somebody you're acting like a bully and you come across like a coward calls him a little bitch so
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again if if jackson wanted to come across less like a little bitch this is completely backfired
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in his face but one of the most disconcerting things about this situation is that the wrestlers
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involved have stated that nox pro the company that were holding this event in the first place
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have said that they do not want the people involved in the incident to speak to the police and that
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there is a specific group of people within the company who will be speaking to the police on their
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behalf which seems like what they want to do is sweep this under the rug wrong yeah wrong which uh
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pretty despicable behavior again just a quick thing why do they think that not enough people know
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about it or something you know they oh we can keep this under wraps like everyone not knows yeah
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and the police have more than enough information and evidence that was a live streamed to thousands
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of people at the time to be able to condemn and convict roger jackson when eventually they arrest him
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as far as i can tell from the information that's available online right now it looks like he's not
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being arrested yet which is shocking because frankly he should be i mean he should be facing time
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i think it's lAPD isn't it los angeles so uh you know well yeah i suppose they're afraid that if
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they arrest him that people might start rioting which is to be fair something to be concerned about
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as keith woods pointed out himself uh his post his original post which is where i saw this got 25
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million views and out of thousands of comments uh most of the ones from black commenters were almost
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universally defending his actions and even and i used to watch this guy when i was a kid mark henry
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who's a former world champion came out to defend him saying that psycho stew deserves the blame
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for the incident which as somebody who's worked within wrestling that is a remarkable thing for him to
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say i can't imagine anybody else within pro wrestling saying that he did it to himself
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yeah or was or was asking for it or deserved the blame obviously the incident that began
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it in the first place was a mistake him smashing the can against his head was a mistake but they
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had already resolved that everything that happened after that was not what they agreed nobody else but
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jackson is to blame for that this is like the carmelo anthony thing right yeah where it's like
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there's a kind of in-group loyalty that's being expressed here i mean at least his dad isn't doing at
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least his dad is like you know justice should be served we've seen seems to be that there are
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there are some people here who aren't being very objective yes yeah well it reminds me of you know
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i've seen people um on indians on twitter defending the actions of that lorry driver yeah kill people
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it's it's ridiculous how uh there is a certain portion of sorry it goes further than that right with
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that that he did a fundraiser and like uh not yeah not a fundraiser sorry there was a petition
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and like a million people signed this petition trying to get him uh you know some sort of
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commuted sentence he killed people yeah i know but he he didn't know what he was doing he was just
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trying to help his family it was an accident jesus and a million of them signed it i'll do a video on
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a segment on it because i didn't know that it went that far it's mad and they've got loads of video
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comments on the petition of them saying the same rhetoric just the same thing over and over and it's
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like and they're all just they're just indian people who are just like well he's an indian
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therefore we would like him off and it's like look we're not ready for this kind of tribalism yeah
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they look at it from the perspective of is this good for us if he goes down no then is he one of
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ours yeah then we'll make sure he doesn't go down yeah very briefly i uh the worst example of
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of of um similar to what you were just describing there happened after the oxford um uh trial where
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where seven pakistani heritage men were jailed for grooming gangs the local one of the independent
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local imams said the local imams actually encouraged the the men to go out there and abuse the white
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working-class girls actually in sermons in mosques jesus christ but um again this is being investigated
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by the police right now uh psycho stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew stew
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has regained consciousness and one of the things that really makes this even worse sadly not to end
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on a down note or anything is that this article talks about how smith is a military veteran who
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joined knox pro in 2009 after retiring from service in a prior promotional clip released by the wrestling
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academy he'd said that he suffers from ptsd and began wrestling as a means to give him something to
00:43:57.780
focus on as he adjusted back into civilian life so this this was his way of coping with ptsd
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basically and this this guy this nobody this son of some famous guy who can't achieve anything by himself
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has just come in like a wrecking ball and completely ruined his life it's a completely
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disgusting thing and he needs to go to prison for this for years and the final note is that knox pro
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as a result of all of this seems to have removed all wwid branding from their social media presumably
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because after seeing what happened and how they handled it wwe have decided they don't want anything to
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do with this academy anymore so again this whole incident has not only ruined did the guy get banned from
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kick too yes he's been he's been banned from kick he's ruined multiple people's lives and the and and this
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whole company because of the way that they've they've dealt with the situation and all of the
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people attached to that now presumably uh are also tainted with this whole thing except for those who
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tried to uh stop the altercation as soon as it happened so not a very nice story frankly yeah i
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mean i i watched this video the the the thing that really bothers me is just how merciless this guy is
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like it is just horrific man it's absolutely horrific it's a horrible tawdry tale isn't it i i yeah yeah
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i just said the truth i was reading about it on the first time on the way up here i was absolutely
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appalled yeah it's horrific that's just just unmitigated nasty violence for no reason yeah
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thread not says buy harry's music get a new intro and outro he's been whining about you not using
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his music for years well there we go we will do i've been whining i don't think you've been whining
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i don't think i've ever whined about it um but i will i'll try honestly i'll try and write something
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for it might be might work out yeah just make something quite nice and we'll use it um
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thread not says i'll prove i'm not a little bitch i'll suck a punch and murder this guy
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like a little bitch that'll teach him for accidentally offending me yeah exactly um
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so i don't think cultural warfare ends at immigration multiple psyops like live streaming
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create a completely useless generation man there's there is there is there is something about like
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the walking around live streaming type that it just encourages the irl streamers yeah the irl
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streamers that's it yeah that just encourages like i get to live vicariously through this guy
00:46:17.140
instead of going outside yeah and everyone then just you know feeding them money to do something
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really stupid and you get really stupid things happen and it's just bad um carmelo anthony
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stabbed austin metcalf because he was disrespectful yeah and then he got loads of
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money from a community that thinks that's acceptable uh thanks for keep up the great work lads
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uh uh thanks for i think you mean thanks for the great workers keep it up thank you very much will
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do uh in james lindsey's work right meltdown he called the dominion society a virus only to get
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ratioed by the founder nature is healing long live canada i still couldn't believe he tried to make a
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connection between like the white working class of england being putting up flags and literal nazi
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ideology there was nowhere else he could go i mean i'm it was the special pleading i mean who's
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like that's literally woke james but literally he's like well the jews are a special case because
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they were oppressed historically and therefore you're not and that that's very woke it's a
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specific like all he has to fall back on are some woke arguments it's very that's why i kept pushing
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it because like you've got nowhere to go here that's the only rationale you can use um but uh
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mana says you telling me wrestling is fake next you're gonna say that cnn is not the most trustworthy
00:47:29.460
name and news we're gonna get to that in a minute uh uh data republican had a great x thread on the
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difficulty of reporting refugees from a fan in tennessee thank you very much uh time to raise the
00:47:40.100
dragon banner and declare the rebirth of the free saxon nation of wessex now uh uh well we'll see we'll
00:47:46.020
see about that but um i'm glad people are bringing that up because i i wanted to go to something that's
00:47:51.300
actually a lot more wholesome right a lot more i wanted to end this podcast on an up note because i don't
00:47:57.620
know whether you've noticed but they can't stop the signal like i can't help but feel everything's
00:48:04.020
kind of going our way uh like and i really think it comes down to social media i really think i mean
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you may remember back in 2022 when elon musk was like uh actually i'm buying twitter not because it's
00:48:17.620
going to make me money but because i genuinely think it's an important free speech platform for uh
00:48:23.380
just discourse in the west and he he literally says this is not a way to make money uh my strong
00:48:29.620
intuitive sense is that having a public platform that is maximally trusted and broadly inclusive
00:48:34.020
is extremely important to the future of civilization i think he's right i mean look at the pressure that
00:48:40.020
the online right has been able to assert recently on basically anyone i mean like from your own
00:48:45.380
experiences how do you guys think twitter is going at the moment i i i think it is is certainly the
00:48:52.820
the number one news news app that's uh that's on your phone at the moment and that's been it's been
00:48:58.420
number one for you for months now um something like 85 of all influencers in the in the alternative
00:49:05.620
media are or use x as their main platform to advertise themselves um i personally won't go to
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tick tock or anything else uh i'll just i'll just stick with that excellent youtube kind of thing um
00:49:16.660
um we have the thing i've written guys the thing i really wanted to say uh what i was saying to you
00:49:22.180
guys was um slightly veering away here um i've been on but i've been on bbc bbc world service twice
00:49:30.660
producer told me there were 55 million people listening each time 55 million worldwide oh yeah yeah
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i've started i've defended smokers right right that's the background to start my broadcasting career
00:49:43.860
i'll tell you this when i got the invite for lotus eaters uh two or three years ago for my first
00:49:47.700
appearance i i was more pleased with that than i was appearing on the bbc world service glad to hear
00:49:52.900
it oh thank you um well the thing is i think that twitter is going really really well and uh pew study
00:49:58.820
has uh confirmed that um indeed people are the the people who are involved in and paying attention to
00:50:07.140
this sort of ecosphere very much are using twitter uh and this i think is really important for the
00:50:12.500
nature of the discourse because i mean you'll remember five years ago what twitter was like
00:50:16.820
it was a hive of leftists saying yeah we need to kill all white men and that's a good thing and
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they'll be it'd be completely unchallenged and now i mean i i see these posts every day where they're like
00:50:27.780
my god this is a right-wing hellhole it's like that's great my god this is a right-wing hellhole
00:50:33.060
uh that's wonderful right um but yeah it's a huge number 77 uh of people who just are independent
00:50:40.100
people are on twitter uh nearly 40 percent of adults under 30 now turn to influencers for news
00:50:45.860
leaving traditional outlets in the dust and uh one in five americans rely on citizen journalists
00:50:50.660
to stay informed so these are these are really large numbers and this is why i think right-wing
00:50:54.980
narratives are actually filtering down into the mainstream and becoming a part of just normal
00:51:00.900
conversations look how look how far right the overton windows moved you know if you talk if you
00:51:06.260
talk about re-emigration you know two three years ago you'd be hung drawn and quarters you know
00:51:11.460
and you know and you'd be dead to the wolves now we're openly talking about it and the thing i
00:51:17.060
would say about something i would say about x is that you know i i've got a quite a lively and
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extensive account and as i showed you before where else for six six pound six pound 99 a month
00:51:29.780
can you get one billion views of your work yeah you showed me your your numbers you know wasn't it
00:51:34.500
like lifetime views that's one year yeah well one year one billion views billion views that's good
00:51:39.220
i don't know how many i guess okay i don't use it that much but anyway sorry go ahead yeah probably
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out of that probably one to five percent uh uh probably worthy and noteworthy and what have you
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um so um no i i i let me give an example i think the perfect example where social media uh has worked
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particularly well on with x um no one uh has done what i've only had 788 million impressions some more
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impressions than i have yeah well i do about 30 tweets a day so i try not you know i i i go for
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the i go for the big ones charlie peters on gb news has obviously done a cracking job he's got the
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national inquiry for the girls you know he's he's showcased and highlighted the victims and survivors
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but where i think that came from maybe i the one of the reason charlie peters does it for two
00:52:34.420
reasons out out of principle the other one is it brings in the viewers and things like that
00:52:38.980
now where where the viewers come in is from people like myself and maybe toffee rominson who
00:52:43.620
will highlight who have been highlighting the girls plights for years and years and years i probably did
00:52:47.940
my first tweet on it on 10 years ago around the time of the rochdale trailings kind of thing
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and you know we've talked about it week in week out and gvd knows and talk tv to a certain extent
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know full well that uh that that will bring in the viewers so it's social media that's transformed
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itself to to the mainstream media yeah um well they're very much downstream i mean think about
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the scottish girl with the axe and the knife right if we only had the the mainstream or leftist
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controlled social media to rely on would we have seen this like would this have been a mega viral
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story that would actually really emphasize the play and again these are american numbers as well i
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mean uh ofcom uh are have their own numbers in britain um obviously 96 of adults just in the
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country do something uh 70 of uh online news um is on par with tv they say and six and ten adults claim
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to use some sort of online intermediary so social media or a search engine or news aggregator for their
00:53:46.500
news so this this is the way that people are going to get this and of course there's an age cohort
00:53:52.500
here so eight and ten 16 to 24 year olds are using online media to get their their news whereas
00:53:59.460
obviously the boomers are much more offline right they're on facebook aren't they a lot of them are
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yeah but even then they don't necessarily use that for news they'll watch fox news or sky news or whatever
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uh bbc go but the the the great thing about this and this is what i mean when i i say that
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this is genuinely important for narrative because the the concept of narrative control
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again go back about five years the left had this sewn up you know they would have no we're
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going to censor this we're going to censor that i mean that's why we stopped streaming on youtube
00:54:30.180
for a long time right um they they were very very insistent on using the platforms they had for
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narrative control but elon purchasing x really seems to have burst a bunch of bubbles i mean
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it seems it seems trivial right and it can be used in trivial ways but the community notes feature
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is actually spectacular because millions of people are now seeing that kist armor has lied over
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something again really trivial the bus care the bus fare cap being not three percent but two power
00:54:59.140
whatever it is right so it's very trivial stuff but this kind of stuff is very useful because it
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actually intrinsically limits the power and the persuasive power of the old media and the
00:55:10.580
controllers of the old platforms like they can't just spread a lie now because actually you've got
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a way of pushing back against it is the reason the guardian for quit x because they would yeah they
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kept getting community noted and that exactly right so i mean any any any function of a platform that can
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drive the guardian over to blue sky i fully support you know get get those people out of the discourse
00:55:32.820
because they're they're just that i mean literally them leaving is an admission that they were just
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here to poison the well anyway right but then you've got amazing community notes like this from the
00:55:40.900
conservatives britain is our home not a hotel and then community notes well the tories opened up these
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bloody hotels in 2022 like you can't just memory hole things anymore i love the fact that bo just said be
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quiet you're done uh but you can't just memory hold these things anymore right so the the fact that
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everyone used to be back in the day we had like you know siloed platforms where we would talk about
00:56:02.900
the things that bother us but it was difficult to make that come in you know inject that into the
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mainstream well now through these sorts of tools the fact that elon does want a free speech platform
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the fact he introduced community notes actually allows us to just completely drive the discourse
00:56:17.860
and we've seen this seen this loads of times but this is an amazing example right this is sky news
00:56:24.100
talking about the great replacement now can you imagine sky news putting out a segment like this
00:56:30.500
say five years ago a snapshot of britain in the 80s beachgoers in the seaside town of bournemouth
00:56:38.180
a place which has always been a magnet for holiday makers and seasonal workers fast forward
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to the final days of this summer and the change is undeniable in the bournemouth area between the 2011
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and 2021 censuses the non-british born population went up by 47 percent and immigration everywhere has
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risen significantly since then on the seafront we find immigration is something white british people
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want to talk about but not openly and not on camera can you imagine that being a segment of sky news
00:57:17.140
news or as damn what comes sly news it's kind of australia takeover recently or something right
00:57:23.540
but the the thing to remember is that all of the journos are on twitter and so not only are they not
00:57:29.620
now in a left-wing echo chamber but they're also seeing i mean there are still lots of leftists on
00:57:35.620
twitter i've noticed that recently um i mean blue sky has been on the decline and you can see like them
00:57:40.420
coming back on twitter you can see you know my feed's giving me more and more lefty twats frankly
00:57:46.820
each one of them with an inexplicable hundred thousand likes on there but almost like they've
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just paid for a nice pocket hundred thousand likes i'm not going to allow this right i'm sick of people
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yelling butter butter butter right that's it's such a code definitely happens i'm not saying it doesn't
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happen but you can't prove it and there are lots of leftists still on twitter can't prove it but i have a
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gut instinct sure but it's also a cope and there are there are lots of leftists still on twitter
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and so it's entirely possible they get i don't doubt that but viral to the point of a consistent
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hundreds of thousands of likes every single time yeah that evan guy and then he tried to ratio me
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once and must have forgot and his post got like 15 likes and i was like oh oh just didn't feel like
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shilling out that extra tenner to get me did you evan whoops well you're not important enough yet
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i i i i think i think i think the islamists and the extreme left have given up with have given up
00:58:43.300
with me to a certain extent yeah i don't know i'll never change yeah but the the the point being
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the and again it's every day i'll see a new tweet by some guy some some person with a pride flag
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uh a socialist rose and then the eu flag going this has become a nazi hellhole it's gone i can't
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believe this is just a right-wing echo chamber now and i'm like that's so good and you'll give it a
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like but not for the reason he wants yeah exactly yeah yeah like um oh well the the abusive ones i i
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retweet yeah yeah i repost them you know dave you're a see you something something yeah i repost them
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and i didn't use my father was uh yeah come dive in and then they pick him off you know that's a
00:59:27.220
lesson that's a lesson learned but the point is i think that this sky news segment would never have
00:59:31.060
been possible if it wasn't for the online right and the discourse there's been frankly you know elon
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just saying look you i'm just gonna let you have a free discourse have free reign talk about things
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uh and it wouldn't have been possible if it wasn't for the online right actually having this sort
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of platform and this ability to do this the left is right that censorship actually does work
00:59:50.260
yeah exactly yeah and at the moment we're winning aren't we yeah we are yeah at the moment we're
00:59:54.500
completely winning but again this segment it was the journalists themselves are at a point now where
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they know they can't deny it they can see everyone around sees and the only thing left to do is follow
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the incentive okay well everyone's talking about this everyone's watching us doing this well if we
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want some of those eyeballs and our numbers have been going down steadily slowly but steadily well we're
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going to have to we're going to have to engage with it and so the narrative control is what is
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honestly coming back around to our way i mean like nigel farage is a great example of this right
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was it six months ago on stephen edgington where he's like no mass deportation is not possible
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they're not my ambition it's never going to work and now nigel farage is there in front of the giant
01:00:35.220
british flag saying no we're going to deport 600 000 in the first year and that's the end that's the
01:00:39.380
start of it you know it's like look this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for us yeah yeah everyone
01:00:45.140
else is now playing catch-up it's arm like exactly and now uh i've got look at that look at this when
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nigel farage moans on the sidelines labor is getting on with the job of delivering and what's the job
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removed over 35 000 from people from the uk with no right to be here now it's bs right there's probably a
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community note on this no there's not yet but um but the point is this is the competition now who
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can deport the most nigel farage promising 600k i like the idea of 600k better than 35k kia you
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better you know tick tock tick tock if you want my vote you're gonna have to crank that number up mate
01:01:21.860
you know farage has promised five deportation flights today how many are you promising
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kia i think nigel farage is holding the aces and uh you know pre-flop oh yeah yeah absolutely
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yeah indeed so but no i uh uh it's good though the dialectic is with us i know i i'm loving at
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the moment yeah yeah we're driving the dialectic because the we are talking about the real things
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actually benefit the people of this country uh rather than trying to falsely impose a narrative
01:01:51.940
that everyone knows is bad for us and so this is great this is just really great um there is going to
01:01:57.220
be a reaction of course i mean the online safety act which is why we couldn't see the uh the the
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thing from the last segment uh this is an issue and i don't know what the american's going to do about
01:02:07.620
donald trump seems fairly unbothered by it oh no no no no no the the the american trump's administration
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yeah it's apoplectic about this i appreciate the administration is and i'm glad that they are
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um but it's weird that trump himself doesn't seem to be that fussed about i think he's delegated it
01:02:25.220
he doesn't get jd vance yeah oh no no no doubt but like trump knows that a large part of his
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success was online media i mean he's he's thanked his keyboard warriors right and so going when he was
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in scotland uh he was asked about the impact of the online safety act on truth social his own social
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media platform and he said quote well i don't think starmer's going to censor my site because i only say
01:02:48.100
good things now you know will you please uncensor my site it's like i would have thought that donald trump
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would have been more aggressive i think he's diplomatic i'm sure he is i do yeah i think it's
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like you know it's the old duck you know you know serenely swimming you know swimming on the pond the
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old links going 24th a dozen underneath believe you me i i i i there is a there's a group of lawyers
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one of them is preston burn the other one is ron coleman um they're representing some of the uh tech
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companies and believe you me they'll they will be taking off com apart oh really okay yeah well fingers
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crossed i mean it does mention this is my stuff yeah yeah but you know they've said it openly and
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uh yeah yeah but that's good and you are right um jd vance has been much more firm on this
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um but the the question is where is this going to go i mean i don't know but i think that one thing
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that is undeniable is that actually we do need to have these platforms be amenable to
01:03:48.900
large numbers of right-wing people singing from the same hymn sheet and unable to just like they
01:03:55.140
used to just mass de-platform uh people from saying this the government is putting this in set into
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place frankly to try and get control of the narrative again and so there there i saw aa complaining about
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saying well look the british government should have the sovereignty to be able to do this okay if they
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do then we have many more problems than we would otherwise have if the americans are somehow able to
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force of com's hand right it will have real and dramatic consequences i i i force a complete white
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flag from starmer and off oh fingers crossed i mean that's what i'm i i'm looking through it logically
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i can't see any other way that they can do it because you know if you know if of com still maintains
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its arrogant stance it will directly affect trade trade relations with america you know right okay
01:04:43.860
okay keir starmer like like like india 50 on all your goods and services and and for america we want
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to be all to be as nice as we can because we actually have a two-to-one trading balance with
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them where we export twice as much to them as being as we import from them really i didn't know that um
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but yeah we have to be very nice yes we we really should anyway but um but the point is
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if we are going to start frankly censoring american platforms uh that is going to have a real impact
01:05:13.220
for the british online right and the nature of politics in this country because at the moment
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i don't know whether anyone's noticed but we're the people they're talking from right we are upstream
01:05:22.500
of them and what we discuss gets downstream to them and suddenly nigel farage and keir starmer are in a
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deportation combat you know conflict uh and so yeah the idea that we can just um frivolously be
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like well you know it doesn't matter let keir starmer censor them because that exerts british power
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maybe but that's that's that's going to have a problem that's going to cause problems for us
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in particular and uh it might not be wise absolutely yeah but no i i i i think the online safety act will
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will die a death at in the and maybe in a year's time that that's my instinct it's it's it's going
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to become unworkable you know i i i know it's most embarrassing i've been i've been invited to a black
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black tie event and i put into google um uh you know black tie dress are near me and it's a great
01:06:12.260
places in los angeles i'll tell you so that yeah well i imagine there would be yeah if you're back on
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tuesday's tuxedo um but yeah i've got a vp now and i i do it from there and i'm sorry i'm sorry i've
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got off com you ain't gonna win not in one for sundays and i i love the i love the natural thing
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i was like well the starmer gonna ban vpns it's like sorry are we just consigned are we just resigned
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to the fact that yeah we've got a tyrannical government just how tyrannical are they going
01:06:37.300
to be so well they're going to ban vpns oh of course they are you know of course why you know
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not surprised everyone seems to be completely resigned to this idea that the government has every
01:06:45.620
right to tyrannize us yeah is yeah yeah there is absolutely a fatalism in it um no i i know i know i i on
01:06:52.820
this one what is scary is you know we've always had some semblance of real democracy in this country
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some semblance that used to be quite robust frankly yeah dude yeah and i i just find it shocking
01:07:06.020
by the way i i compare the online safety act to hitler's 1933 enabling act because it basically gives
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gives the government complete control and power over the internet yeah and social media no it's
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1933 and i relate as far as i can see it's not terribly different i mean yeah everyone hates
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uh naughty comparisons they're very gorsh but like the they're they're frankly you're right it allows
01:07:30.100
them to do basically whatever the hell they like sorry sorry sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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sorry about that but that's the only example i can think of yeah and and so i i think that basically
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the online right needs to be aware of its own power and the influence is exerting yeah and the threats to
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it and the online safety act is genuinely one of them yeah um based ape says someone with 14
01:07:54.660
different flags in their bio is calling you a flag shagger yeah man this is something i see on twitter
01:07:58.660
all the time like there was literally this guy with the ukrainian flag and an eu flag being like i
01:08:02.500
hate those flag shaggers literally before i came on the podcast and i was like am i going to reply to
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this no i'm not going to bother replying to this um midwit sargon it's not bots bro i swear
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dimwit harold of the north now it's them bots i tell you yeah absolutely i love i love the
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uh the mimetic quality well the thing is it might be but it always feels like cope
01:08:22.740
when someone's like oh it's bots it feels perfectly rational to me these people have incentives to try
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and boost their engagement as much as possible make themselves look like they're on the cutting
01:08:31.700
edge of discussion sure but their politicians aren't talking about the things they care about
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our politicians are talking about the things we care about matt says i think trump is playing good
01:08:40.260
cop to jd vance's bad cop since jd vance has proved to be involved in an investment firm in
01:08:44.180
technology companies and understands this in negotiations with uk leaders yeah again hopefully
01:08:49.860
that is the case uh dawn says uh the wind is changing stay your course um yes uh and also
01:08:59.220
take a moment to be proud of yourselves as well because everyone like any even if you're like oh i'm
01:09:05.220
i'm only a 200 twitter follower non-account so what you know like every it's all straws getting on
01:09:12.660
being put on the camel's back you know like when when the sky news um journalist opens up the twitter
01:09:18.580
feed and sees nothing but your replies they feel like they're surrounded they feel like this is the
01:09:25.540
pressure to go in this direction one or two banger tweets with like a hundred thousand
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botted or unbotted likes like that's fine everyone sees it but like that's you know i see evans
01:09:37.060
posts you know every day but that doesn't make me feel like i'm surrounded it doesn't make me feel
01:09:41.460
under pressure but when all of their replies that are just people who are like don't care don't care
01:09:45.780
don't care like that make that that's a psychological effect that you can't buy you can't just bot you
01:09:51.780
know um i know i get a feeling that people like that get a bit of a kinky thrill off of it
01:09:57.460
yeah when they're being humiliated constantly with evan definitely evan definitely but the average
01:10:03.380
sort of you know shit lib mainstream journal wants to feel as if they represent and they are
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respected uh and they don't you know when they've got people constantly they want to feel like they
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have the massive public opinion with them exactly and that's why i think sky news are like maybe the
01:10:19.220
replacement stuff is something we've got to talk about yeah um no i i think it's probably fair to say
01:10:24.500
that uh x gives gives mainstream journalists legacy uh media journalists a fresh perspective
01:10:31.460
shall we say yes and we know they're addicted to it they're on all the time there's there's one
01:10:35.940
there's one woman who she's a mainstream uh tv presenter and i did i did a piece criticizing
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her views on tommy robinson and she was in my dm saying please don't stop
01:10:49.940
point proven exactly you know we we are we are leading the way at this point i said well put me
01:10:54.900
on your show you know i'll show up then you know yeah uh did you see dp audit said did you see me
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get rejected from the pub for having an england flag and the teachers doing one i did see that well
01:11:06.420
done uh i did not see you there yeah yeah it's it's some uh you know uh karen who's just like no
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you put up an england flag you can't come in here it's like okay well be aware be aware that pub
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does not support patriots by the way dp your audience has some great content does he okay i've
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not follow each other right right okay i've not heard of him before but good job chap uh jr says glad
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to see you back on youtube couldn't deal with rumbles ui ux i'm happy to see a few flags on my
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commute to work not many but it's a start yeah i know it's uh it's really really good isn't it
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and paul says i'm helping to fund the upkeep of harry's mullet thank you very much all of
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that money will go to the haircut i'm not planning on having i don't think cultural warfare ends at
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the immigration multiple sites on the live stream we already read that one yes okay and somebody on
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on the rumble pointed out alex trust johnny somalia need i say more yeah again exactly people like that
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i'm so glad that is it korea south korea that's jailing him basically um it was korea and then he went
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over to japan and i think there were reports that japan was just kicking him out of the country
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deporting him for being a public nuisance and to be honest i i think all countries should reserve
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the right to kick out any irl streamers going about anywhere because they are literally being
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putting themselves in a position to be paid to cause trouble yeah it's insufferable yeah so just like
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ban it as far as i'm concerned well it's such a shame it's such a well-ordered society like japan and
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korea well yeah i mean i'm i i pointed out that logan paul's the one who started it way back
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when with the whole suicide forest thing yeah because uh he he even before that he was going
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around just harassing people in public it was terrible behavior yeah have you seen charlie beach
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on on um i've seen some of it yeah yeah there's some people describe it as a wide-up merchant merchant
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but uh i think i think he offers a valuable public service a lot of people when you go into a protest
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and you're dealing with lefty agitators that's one thing right but when you're just wandering around
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the street and annoying normal people are just getting about their day that's something totally
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different oh yeah he's made he's made a star a star of his bodyguard fred oh has he i suppose
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doing the sort of stuff that he does you'd have to have a bodyguard wouldn't you well yeah two one
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time so uh apparently i mean to be fair he's in manchester most of the time quite a few people
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i know in manchester know him or have met him and sometimes sometimes having a bodyguard in manchester
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sounds like not a bad idea absolutely in piccadilly gardens you got an osmond letter
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you got what sorry it's got i've got an osmond letter what's an osmond letter uh your your life is
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is in imminent danger oh right oh all right let's give the video comments
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though in podcast number 1237 you said that liverpool is an english city that hasn't been
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captured but unfortunately that's not true the famous scouse accent developed largely from irish
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immigration which influenced the way people spoke and in elections liverpool tends to have much more
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in common with ireland than with the surrounding english i met a scouser when heading back towards
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paddington station after carl's gilgamesh talk in 2019 and he was a left-wing anarchist who had
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all the insane lefty opinions which still pop up on my facebook timeline in summary liverpool
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is an irish colony the irish are once again to blame for the problem the english face
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and colonel goodwood did absolutely nothing wrong
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all very true as i've said eventually we will take liverpool back from the perfidious irish the irish
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plantation yes yeah or have you guys also noticed that uh there's been there's been some reason
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reasonably reasonably good turnouts in liverpool against the island hotels i have noticed that
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do you remember in the southport riots there's the liverpudlians who are rioting long into the
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night to like well that's the good thing about the scouse to be fair being totally serious for a moment
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is that they they're intensely tribal nature they are some of the most tribal people on this island
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means that they are more likely to come out in force against these things when they're imposed on
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them much more than other cities across the country i think that they are they are the victims so
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therefore they're going to defend themselves you know i think i think reform could could make some
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make some make some headway in the consistency now when you see literally hundreds of thousands of
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scousers out on the street complaining about immigration you know it's a serious problem oh yeah it's nice
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this is the country you serve this is the country that you serve
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that's bloody liverpool really that's manchester
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old shrinkum yeah oh it's old shrinkum yeah yeah good lads good lads
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he's a good lad at least so uh defend our island whatever the cuts may be we shall fight on the beaches
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all right steve says harry finally capitulates the chance request to make a theme song for load
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seaters the question now becomes will he do enough music for ellie for an album sale i happily would i i
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would have been happy to do music at any point uh the problem is i've got more than enough material
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original for uh for an album but i need a new computer because this one dies if i have discord
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and chrome open at the same time now so i can't use any of my recording software once i get a new one
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i'll probably do a load more stuff with chris if you've listened to the songs that i did with chris guard
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on uh on youtube please check it out if you haven't it's called worship of man and who knows what could
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happen who knows eagle eye says no save the load seaters intro music yeah i'd like to but youtube
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copyright claimed it so we can't monetize anything it's too late now yeah it's it's sorry it's over
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harry will do something really good i'm sure yeah what was it peter hitchens said
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it's over well i guess that's it there you go goon
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my favorite piece philosophy produced in the past 500 years really uh anyway martin
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was thinking about obtaining the game fallout london i decided there's no need i could just walk
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outside and go around for a bit yeah i offered james lizzie if he wants to come around i'll uh
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i'll take him for a tour um derek says uh who knew that in 60 years paris would be on the level of
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algae yeah well well i mean there have been prophets in the wilderness saying this sort of
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stuff haven't they you know so it's there were some people who knew yeah michael says wait wait
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france is manning up i'm not i'm surprised it usually takes the brits and americans to fight
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if invaders to france well that's the thing they're not manning up that's the problem what they're doing
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is locking down the compliant citizens right they're targeting their own people instead of the people who
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who are the interlopers who are the causing the problems if anything it might make the streets
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worse yeah because the criminals won't feel like they have to hold themselves back if there aren't
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any law-abiding uh people on the streets lancelot says i'm the same age as carl and for as long as
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i can recall politicians always made laws that punished the law abiding and worded them as if they had
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some kind of effect on criminals who couldn't care less and they think we're the stupid ones well i
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mean it's called anarcho-tyranny yeah i'm sure it never used to be like uh rothbard got it off sam
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francis but yeah that was a common phrase used by those guys the old paleos
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arizona desert rat says maybe this curfew will make it uh it easier to arrest and identify criminals
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uh well the thing is that like like i said that like with sweden the police would have to go to these
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communities that actually incede in them and why would you bother it's dangerous but just to not
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be involved at all right baron von warhawk says congrats france through liberalism and excessive
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empathy you have wound up bringing back the separate but equal yeah it's mad it's genuinely mad isn't it
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like again there there is a solution everyone knows the solution but it means just arresting a bunch of
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people that will have white liberal women screeching and saying no leave them alone
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i've always said it like the grooming gangs yeah the worst enemy of white working-class girls
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is white is white middle-class women 100 that's and this was always the problem with all of feminism
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as well there was this one good morning britain um uh like show that they did where they do you
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remember the grid girls from formula one yeah right they had so they're attractive working-class girls
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who are wearing like bikinis or whatever and are waving the grid flags and then you have these dowdy
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middle-class feminists who know you can't have them anymore grid girls is patriarchal or something
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and so the f1 banned them and it's like right so you're you you know middle-class professors dowdy
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unattractive attractive working-class girls who love their job and love doing what they're doing
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no you're not allowed anymore they should have listened to peter absolutely but the point is
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you're all right and the pair of the teams went out of their way to make make sure the girls felt
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part of the team as well yeah oh yeah but yeah yeah they said they had a great time yeah but what
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you know why why wouldn't you i'm sure everyone was having a great time well yeah until the yeah
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but everyone was having a great time wives except no no except for the the frumpy middle-class
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feminist professors who don't watch formula one who just sat there seething just you know you know that um
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meme of um denethor where he's just seething and it's just like you know so and so for no reason
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that's what the frumpy middle-class professors were like about the grid girls then was having a good
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time they're like no we have to ruin this um mr flipple says that roger incident was terrible he
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was totally out of control people don't understand this but wrestlers rely on their opponents working
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safely it was minder savagery um yeah i mean if you're doing something like a suplex or something
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that's it takes two to do something like that uh so and and it especially takes two very skilled
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and well-trained people to do it safely michael says this will be psycho stew's fault because uh
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pattern recognition yeah probably henry says whilst i suspect this nepo baby might just get off because
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of how a jury of his peers tends to act tribally uh if he does get sent to prison then i hope uh the
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fear of someone else cashing in on the receipt he's built up in this attack causes many sleepless nights
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if he thinks he feels like a bitch now when he gets if he goes to prison then he'll find out what
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that means uh but yeah hopefully hopefully if it goes to trial we won't have the same sort of thing
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that we've seen a number of times in la courts are they based in where are they based i believe the
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incident took place in la the lapd the ones looking into it so if it goes to trial it'll be in la and
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hopefully you won't get say like a no j simpson situation hector says he'll get no sympathy from me
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carl daddy issues or not you don't prove your amount to your dad by losing control that's okay
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totally true totally fair i'm just very soft-hearted but you are completely correct on that obviously
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kevin says uh the chinese have the great firewall i can see starma if he decides to block access to
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vpns pushing for the same thing in the uk well honestly like it's genuinely on the horizon that we
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could end up with some sort of labor chinese firewall right it's it is on the rise it's
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the sort of thing like starma has already said well no we're not considering it it's like yeah but
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you have considered it right also china has a much better bargaining chip on the global stage for
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being able to impose those sorts of things without fear of too many sanctions because of how much
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manufacturing and uh and trade goes through there and goes on over there what does what does britain have
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to offer to say you can't do that a nice dinner at buckingham palace that's about it really isn't it
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yeah what we got what what's britain producing at the moment uh you can have our weak pathetic green
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steel drill rap music you can have our drill i'll happily trade the drill rappers for something
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zesty king says i was at a pub quiz last night the place was full of boomers the host asked a
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question about politics and when giving an answer went off on both labor and the tories
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and said that only one party can create real change obviously referring referring to reform
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the pub then cheered and shouted in agreement it was a very uplifting thing to experience
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yeah i mean you know as much as everyone on the online rights like nigel farage i'm gonna do it
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there are millions of boomers who are persuaded at this point that farage is just
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something that's not the mainstream so good and maybe we with enough pressure we can keep dragging
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him to the right because like again nigel farage i don't want to do mass deportations to
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i'm gonna mass deport 600 000 in the first year that's that's result that's progress right so
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yeah absolutely yeah um tim i'll do some digging for you i might be able to get some of the
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inside story on that one all right but from what i understand is he's genuinely sincere that's what
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i've been told so uh you know you really want and uh can we can we trust this though because farage
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is on every side of every issue at some point in his career i i did did apart from remain
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actually i did haul that person over the um over the coals over it um and uh i'll uh i'm not too sure
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whether i can say this but you know um yesterday uh when he was giving out his press conference
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i'm not sure farage was banging on about uh you know we're not going to use civil servants
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oh okay good thinking yeah excellent i mean that why not like you could do but you you can
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basically do anything you want privately in this country as well so there's no reason not to yeah
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sure um uh so well yeah um the phrase i've already is probably not the right one to use but
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then back then as nigel farage alluded to yesterday um they when they come in come in uh
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sure they come into power in 2028 with a with a working majority it's a case of right three line
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whip we're voting for we're getting rid of the human rights act 98 getting rid of um gordon brown's
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2008 where the civil servants are not liable for their for their mistakes yeah that's going um there'd
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be a free speech act he needs to make the bank of england accountable to the the parliament again i mean
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there's just there are so many things that farage needs to do but there's a huge list of things he
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should have a big list ready to go right now yeah he's got it now i'm not i'm not putting my foot
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in here but that's my understanding if i do know i said i'll come after you if he doesn't when he
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backstabbers like david you did this see a lot of it a lot of it seems like wishful thinking though
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doesn't it like it's like farage is he the guy i don't think he's the guy um i guess we'll find
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out yeah prove me wrong nigel yeah i certainly certainly certainly certainly his advisors around
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him are as keen as us shall we say right okay well that's super they know they're holding his feet to
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the fire and if there is any back backsliding it's whether they can influence him to act rather than
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just speak words uh uh very little value to me is that is actions yeah which honestly is totally
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fair someone online says i don't think they're going to sense my sight could be a veiled threat
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something about it feels very italian um i mean you could interpret it that way but i don't
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i just don't think that trump would have said it in that way i think he was probably being more
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congenial and and friendly uh but hopefully jd vance has got the um the steel in him on this
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subject although i mean he did go over and give the eu a rollicking about free speech so i don't
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doubt this something really does matter to him um jimbo says as it gets as it gets worse the foreign
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spies who run us will unironically try and ban x in the name of national security i bet you there's
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plenty of super injunctions that would explain their behavior yeah this is definitely something that
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is something to be wary of is that it's entirely possible that i've already seen them seeding
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articles about it saying these like oh there's a lot of hate speech on x there's a lot of potential
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problems coming off x like i've already seen the seeds of it and so at some point i do think they
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will probably uh make some kind of move against it so don't get comfortable um genuinely i i think
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it's something to worry about um arizona deserat says time position now has two million signatures
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i assume she means petition yeah i think she means petition yeah uh luckily he's in florida where
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de santis is still governor that guy shouldn't have ever got a cdl um well yeah is that the um the
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petition for the guy who ran over people in the lorry that must be what that must be what she's
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referring to there hard yeah uh i would hope that it takes a lot more than a random petition
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to get manslaughter or murder charges thrown out of court so it seems it seems like impotent wailing
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as far as i'm concerned but it does demonstrate something very worrying about the tribal ethnic
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preference that no matter what the circumstances are what the action is that's been that's happened
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they're more than willing to just say uh no that's not a problem no that's that's that's not a
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problem we shouldn't be punished for it people who look like me should be able to murder and get away
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with it mad no i don't agree with that actually whether it's carmelo anthony whether it's uh whoever
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the indian guy was driving that truck whether it's somebody who looks like me if it was a if it's a
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white blonde haired guy justice is justice right and wrong is still right and wrong that's maybe that's
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just a very western centric euro centric way of thinking i'm beginning to suspect it is beginning
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to really suspect that it is we're in the west i don't care but yeah exactly you know justice is
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justice and that's how it should be and uh with that uh one last super chat um being polish and living
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the uk i'm feeling optimistic seeing all the uk and st george flags around finally guys keep it up uh
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and expand from here rupert lo for benevolent tyrant love my island of four yes go and get your island of
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four while it's on sale and when it's gone it's gone forever link in the description
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i hope you've bought one already because if not you don't know how long i get it all day every
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day can i get a copy of island of three or two or one i'm like no right comment yeah it was it was
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that they're they're filling carl's mattress and that's where they'll stay forever they're a moment
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in time and once that moment's gone it's gone so yeah yes and with that by islander thank you very
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much for joining us and to everybody who sent in a rumble ramp or a super chat thank you very much
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thank you to you dave thanks a lot guys love i love coming down here pleasure having you on
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all right we'll see you again tomorrow and until then take care
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