The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1246
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1 hour and 29 minutes
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195.93248
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Summary
Today we discuss how Sadiq Khan has given the game away with his state of resources for Muslims speech, how we are going to witness the rise of Gammonzilla in the near future, and why Muslims are terrified of it, and because of their terror, the deportations are coming.
Transcript
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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus East for Friday the 5th
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of September 2025. I am joined by Nick and Ferris, and today we are going to be talking about how
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Sadiq Khan has given the game away with his State Resources for Muslims speech, how we are going to
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witness the rise of Gammonzilla in the near future, and they are terrified of it, and because of their
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terror, the deportations are coming. This is all just generally good news, I think. Like at the
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Witan the other day, right, I was doing the Q&A, and I was like, two years ago, I came around and I
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gave a speech in which I pointed out, we don't act like we're inevitable at this point. We're kind of
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acting like we want this to happen, but we don't think it is actually going to happen. And I asked
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everyone, okay, put your hand up now if you think this is absolutely happening. And everyone was
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just like, yeah, no, the right is inevitable at this point. There's just no, the left is completely
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collapsed. In fact, speaking of collapsing, we've got some breaking news that we're going to break
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with. Angela Rayner has resigned because of her housing tax code issue, which actually makes a
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really great point about how complex things are. If even the housing minister can get sunk by the
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housing tax code, maybe that needs to be sorted out, Keir Starmer. But also, Labour's investment
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minister, Poppy Gustafsson, who's a member of Rachel Reeves' treasury team, has resigned as well. So this is
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like, oh, dominoes falling. Mate, 2025 election, I'm telling you, it's happening. I would absolutely
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love it. Let's get Farage out of the way. Anyway, like I said, we're going to be starting with Sadiq
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Khan giving the game away. Before we begin, we've got lads out this afternoon, and it's the lads
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hour everyone has been waiting for. We all got our DNA tests. There are my ancestors, unironically,
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actually. Whereas I'm so English, I broke the test. Just as white as possible. Whereas
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you're sort of a global citizen, really. At least a quarter of me is a global citizen.
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But we'll cover that on lads out on lotuseats.com. So come over and find us there. But right,
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without further ado, let's begin. Yep. And please go ahead and buy an issue of the Islander magazine.
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You can find it on the store on the Lotus Eaters website. Now I want to tell you how Sadiq Khan
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has revealed that he's pretty much wrong about everything important in life.
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Yeah. So let's sort of start. He had an interview last year with the Islam Channel, where he made
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a bunch of statements. Now this is making the rounds again, presenting Sadiq Khan as saying
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that he's going to give council houses only to Muslims. He didn't quite say that, although
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he did clearly imply that they would be the priority for him. It's an important interview.
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And since Reuters took the time to fact check it and say, no, no, he didn't promise all
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of these freebies to Muslims, I wanted to explore it in depth and dissect it and show you why
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he's pretty much wrong about everything substantial in life. Let's listen to the man.
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Samson, eight years. I've sought to be a mayor for all Londoners, whether you're Muslim,
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you know, Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, member of unorganized faith or not.
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I know many Londoners who are Muslims suffer real challenges in relation to not having their
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potential fulfilled because they're going hungry at school. Their parents are stressed and they're
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skipping meals because they're worried about how their kids are going to eat. So if I'm reelected,
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I will make my groundbreaking policy of free school meals permanent, which will really make a
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difference. A family with one child will save 500 pounds a year. The second big thing I...
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So I wanted to just take all of this interview in context and just break it down step by step.
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The first question that I have is, why can't you afford to feed your own children?
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Yeah, what a damning indictment of the Muslim community.
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Exactly, exactly. So if the beginning, if the starting point for Sadik Khan is that
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Muslims in London can't even afford to feed their own kids, the answer is they really shouldn't be in
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London. The idea of importing starving people to be on welfare and to be dependent on the state
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for something as basic as feeding your own children. We all go through hard times. We all owe each other
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charity sometimes. But charity is a communal effort within the community. Simply showing up in another
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person's country and saying, feed me and feed me forever is fundamentally different from demanding
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Sure. But have you considered that they don't care and you're prepared to give them money through the
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Exactly. Which is what it is. It's resource redistribution along ethnic and religious lines
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to benefit people who can't even feed themselves. If you can't feed yourself, it doesn't strike me as
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wise to bring you into my home permanently. I can't, I can't help but feel that they might not be as
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honest about this as we might expect as well. Yes. Ah, my children, I can't feed them. You have to feed
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them. Yes, yes, absolutely. Absolutely. The whole issue of cheating on benefits is a very substantial one.
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I'm saying they're driving like taxis for cash or something. No, I'm saying they just go to school
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and tell them you haven't had breakfast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like that. Yes. You're saying
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they're not quite in tune with the high trust fair play society car. Weirdly, they don't share the
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Protestant values that seem to underpin England. Yes. But let's listen to what his second priority is,
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because again, this was supposedly taken out of context. And I want to go through this step by step.
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Samson, can you control this? Fulfilling their potential. Often they're underemployed or in jobs
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that, you know, they can do better jobs, but they haven't got the skills. Every Londoner who is on low
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income or not working will get free training to get the skills for jobs that are created in London,
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really important in this great city. They're the big issue facing Londoners.
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So let's pause here for a second again. If people aren't fulfilling their wages in the
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their potential in the economic capital of Europe, at least it's partly their own fault.
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Again, another damning indictment. Yeah, I've got a bunch of untrained Muslims who can't earn any money.
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So you have to train them and feed them. Sorry, this isn't the British Empire. If we were if we
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were governors over Pakistan or whatever, maybe I'd agree. But we're not so piss off.
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This is the whole theme of it. The whole theme of it is that what's happening is that London is being
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flooded with low wage, low skilled people who are basically taking away the jobs from young English
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people who would start their career with a low level job, such as I don't know, stacking shelves or
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working in a warehouse or being delivery drivers, or what have you. These are perfect jobs if you're
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1415 17, a good way to save some pocket money, a good way to learn financial responsibility become
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autonomous. Instead of doing that, what's happening is that people are being brought in on benefits to
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fill these jobs, and usually to figure out ways of cheating the system. And it's these precise people
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who are Mayor Sadiq Khan's priority. That's that doesn't exactly seem sensible. But he's presenting
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that as his own electoral platform, because he knows that he will get a certain ethnic and religious
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vote supporting him, because he's going to redistribute money to them.
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But also, this interview with the Islam channel, you kind of notice that he begins by saying,
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oh, well, I mean, for all Londoners, but here I'm going to focus on the Muslims and what I'm
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going to do for them. And here's all of this stuff for the Muslims. It's like, right, okay,
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It's funny how he just has the mic where it says Islam. I know it says channel underneath
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him. If you had a WWE character of the Muslim there, it would be this guy.
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He's completely comfortable with it. And I, like I said, I believe that this is what he's going to do.
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Yep. His third priority around housing is what got people riled up. And I really want to take
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some time to sort of discuss that in a little more detail and give it the attention it deserves.
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Sorry, Samson, can we, can you say that for us?
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And so we need to build far more homes in our city, because, you know, often people from minority
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communities want to live near a mosque, near halal food, near places where other people like them.
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So they, you know, for a variety of obvious reasons, and they're priced out.
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Because, look, often people from minority communities want to live near a mosque and get
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their halal food. It's like, I don't think that's communities plural.
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These Polish people that love the halal and the mosque.
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The Romanians and Bulgarians and the Hindus and the Sikhs.
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For me, it's the thoughtlessness of it all, in the sense that if it was white flight and
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people trying to avoid people who are different from them, it would be called racism.
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If it's people congregating with others who are like them, which is a natural human impulse,
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you've had Irish neighborhoods, you've had Jewish neighborhoods, you've had all kinds of
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ethnic enclaves, wherever different ethnicities mix, then it's a good thing.
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And we need to provide them with social housing, says Mayor Khan.
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And the final thing to say in relation to Londoners who are Muslims.
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So he's promising 40,000 new council houses to make sure that people can live around their
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That's what integration looks like, apparently.
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And the question that I have here is, have you considered the feelings of the people who
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As someone from Lebanon, I remember how the Palestinian inflow into Lebanon.
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pretty much destroyed the country and led to civil war.
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I remember how the Syrian inflow into Lebanon pretty much destroyed the country and crippled
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And so I've seen this playbook a bunch of times.
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And at no point does it take account of the people who already live there and their identity
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Well, I mean, I'm not sure that it doesn't take any account of them.
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I mean, it takes account of how much money they have and how much money can be funneled
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If it's the same playbook, which it obviously is, and it's quite explicit, why do people
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And I think I'm about to call the police to report your intolerance and mine.
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I don't know if you've heard, but jokes are no longer tolerated.
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But it really is a bit stunning that the argument here is that people should be imported to
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live in social housing and in rent-controlled properties and to have their children fed
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And to have their children trained by the state because they can't make it work in the
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I mean, it's one thing to say ghettos are a problem.
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It's actually slightly better than what they do with social housing, which is they put it
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next to people who bought the house or who bought a share of it.
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And you have to look across, because I've done this, at the people you're going to work
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to pay for, who are doing nothing, and who have destroyed their part of their block or
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And you're like, oh, I'm going out to work now so they can watch this massive telly and
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And of course, they're not from England either.
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Recipes determined to Michael Douglas when I'm falling down.
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I live in a place that made so much noise, like outside, kids outside, no parent supervision,
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screaming, sorry to hydrate you a bit, but screaming for hours and hours.
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The social housing kids, no one looking after them, just feral children.
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I know this is like the most Tory thing I've ever said.
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It's this leftist policy to put them, put it in.
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You want to put it so we can't keep it separate.
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You want to put it in with the people that have sweated to pay for the housing.
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I'm really proud of, and say in relation to Londoners who are Muslim, is look, one of
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You know, I've organized, since I've been mayor, events like Eden the Square, Ramadan
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What's being admitted here accidentally is even more important.
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What's being admitted is that there isn't a sense of belonging.
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It's a realization that this isn't your country.
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But the admission here is that there is no sense of belonging.
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It is artificially engineered by creating events that are for Muslims, and by making these
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events high profile, like having iftar in Trafalgar Square as a sort of, you know, here
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we are, we're dominant, as having various events around Ramadan to celebrate something
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that is completely alien to Britain and to England, and to say, no, no, no, this is normal
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I don't think that an iftar is going to attract, I don't know, the average crowd from Essex
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I don't think these people are going to say, yeah, it's a wonderful iftar, let's go for
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If anything, it takes on the aspect of settler colonialism, doesn't it?
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Extract resources from the natives so a foreign community can come in and terraform the landscape
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to be more suitable to them, and then instantiate all of their religious and cultural habits
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there at the expense and completely against the will of the natives.
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To be very fair, it will be somewhat diverse, there will be English Liberal Democrat politicians
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there, so Ed Davey, King Charles will be there, absolutely terrified, yes, and thousands
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of them trying to practice anything with their hands.
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What Donald Trump won in 2016 was because friends of mine, people in America, were complacent,
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thinking that we've made progress, we're going to carry on making progress, and the frustration
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we had was the lack of pace in progress, and lo and behold, it went backwards, right?
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Over the last eight years since I've been male, I think I've had five years.
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It's like, no, we need to get as many Muslims over, we need to get them trained, get them
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paid for, get them fed, get their institutions up and running, and that's progress.
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In fact, you've got Gammonzilla in America coming up in the form of Donald Trump.
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You know, whatever its merits is not really progress, is it?
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Well, I mean, again, it depends which direction you're going in, right?
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If you're like, okay, I want to get to that destination, which is the Islamification of
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Britain, and you want to get to, I'd like Britain to be a normal British country,
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well, you're definitely not getting the progress you want, and he's getting all the progress
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The goal's assumed, and then it's just how far, well along, blip, blip, blip, how far
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I can't believe Sadiq Khan, very public Muslim and chair of the Fabian Society, is doing
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Sunak, that instability leads to problems, and they've also used policies to divide our
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communities, pitted north versus south, old versus young, some communities against the
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That's why we've got to be vigilant, and we've got to work really hard to be friends
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And one of the things I'm really proud of is how Muslims and Jews work together, or Hindus
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and Sikhs work together, or Christians and Muslims work together, and so forth.
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I was last night at London Citizens, and on the stage was, you know, a rabbi and, you
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know, a Muslim leader working together to support asylum seekers.
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I mean, I've been, have you seen a lot of Jews and Muslims working together on the streets
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We all have to work together, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, to get as many
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It's like, sorry, no, I'm not in favour of that.
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I mean, what point is Trump representing backwardness?
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The idea of your own nation first is backwards.
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Now, Sadiq Khan said nothing about the expulsion of Afghans from Pakistan.
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Whenever India and Pakistan get into a fight, the Pakistani and Indians on the progressive
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side start fighting each other, each one for his own ethnic kin or religious kin, and
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the argument between them is sort of, you know, endless.
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And so everything implied in what he says, oh, the communities are being divided from
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The fact that there is diversity allows for communal divisions to emerge.
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Unless you're under an imperial system that keeps everybody under a fair enough boot, which
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is the only time where Lebanon worked, when there were either the Ottomans or the French.
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So saying that this is, you know, good, that this is progress, it implies a sort of moral
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universe that is completely alien to what, say, a Christian Mount Lebanon would be, or
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to what a Druze Mount Lebanon would be, or to what an English England would be.
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He's saying, I will work together with rabbis and whoever, in order to make sure that there
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Now, given what's happened over the last few years in terms of Jewish and Muslim relations,
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But the fact that in 2024, you had Jewish rabbis willing to say, we want more asylum seekers
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from the Middle East and Africa who are going to side with the Muslims against us.
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I guess they have a place to retreat to, though.
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So the point of this segment is that Sadiq Khan is wrong about everything important in
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And everything he said in that interview, even though he didn't say, I'm going to give
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these houses only for Muslims, although he did say the purpose of these additional houses
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He did say that, even though Reuters did a silly fact check saying, well, no, not quite,
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Am I going to not read between the lines on this?
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But the thing is, I'm not sure I'd say he's wrong, right?
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Because I think that from his own paradigm, he's completely correct about what he's doing.
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I've become the mayor of London, so I can funnel resources to the Muslim community, so
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I can get them trained and get them educated and get them food and get them resources.
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And, I mean, that's not wrong, as in technically, logically incorrect, from his point of view.
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It's just really undesirable for just the native people of this country.
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And, you know, outside of a relativist framework, it's also objectively wrong, but that's a different
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conversation that I'll say for a different time.
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That's the sort of teamwork I want to see in our city.
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Look, you know, I'm somebody who is a member of Parliament for 11 years and been mayor for
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eight years, and I've met too many victims of crime.
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I've spent too much time with bereaved families.
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And what I'm clear about is, what are the complex causes of crime?
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Deprivation, poverty, alienation, lack of opportunity.
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And they've got worse over the last 14 years because of government cuts.
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So we've got to be tough on the complex causes of crime.
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Getting a big knife and putting it in someone else.
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Sometimes it's the urge to pick up knives and stab people, even.
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Yeah, but if they just had some community centers, this wouldn't happen.
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I mean, even with the sort of school meal stuff and the community centers and all the stuff,
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all of that, you know that the contracts for these things are going to go to entities
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And you know that this is going to involve a huge amount of corruption.
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And that it is going to benefit people who either agree with him ideologically or religiously
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or his ethnic kin, which is pretty much the same thing.
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So you know that this is a redistribution game.
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So there is an interest, as far as he's concerned, in presenting this crime problem as being,
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And I thought that given that he wanted to talk about this kind of toughness on crime.
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And by the way, I went with knives because we're on YouTube.
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I thought I'd tone it down from other things I could say.
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But isn't there a contradiction between this leftist frame, right?
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But what do the Muslims actually say about that?
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Because I can imagine that they're not really big on that.
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Surely in that kind of culture, there's an element of personal responsibility or pride or something.
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So there's an old Islamic tradition that says that the penalty for thieving, which is to amputate the hands, was suspended in years where there was famine because the poor would steal food and that would be sort of tolerated.
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But generally, there is definitely a very harsh view on crime in Muslim societies.
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And it's very often enforced by the community itself.
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Like the police would have to sort of struggle to get the thief out from the hands of the community before he gets murdered.
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So it's crime in our country is a means to an end.
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And once Sharia is there, will they end the crime?
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The thing is, we're thinking of crime as a universal abstract property, as in crime in a kind of like general law-like way.
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If it's crimes from one community against another community.
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Then this is allowed because there are all kinds of interpretations by people close to Islamic State, which are not fully mainstream in Islamic thinking,
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saying that, yeah, when you are in the land of the unbelievers, you get to do whatever you want.
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And you always see the argument that, no, it's the girls' fault that they got raped, regardless of age, regardless of the fact that they were drugged.
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Including from the wives and daughters and the families.
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So you see this mindset that says, no, no, no, some crimes are permitted.
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So when he says we're going to focus on the causes of crime, one of the things implied in there is that I'm going to channel money to entities that are friendly to me in order to support my own community.
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And I will address that up as being countering the causes of crime.
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But then if you just look at the data, what it tells you is that, you know, the percentage of Muslims who are in jail has been pretty overrepresented, shall we say.
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Well, I mean, we can see on the graph here, it's nearly three times the actual population.
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And that's a theme that's repeated pretty much everywhere in Europe.
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But also, no religion is a surprisingly underrepresented one as well, isn't it?
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You can see that 37% of the population, but only 31% of the actual criminals.
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So it's basically because the no religion types tend to be, you know, mid-class.
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So this tells you that really the growth of the Muslim population has led to an even higher proportion of Muslims being in jail.
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So it's not really worked, but this redistribution effort is ongoing.
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So when Reuters says that, no, they're fact-tracking this, and that, no, Sadiq Khan didn't say that he was going to build 40,000 homes only for Muslims, what he said is considerably worse.
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He's admitted that there are ethnic and religious differences.
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He's admitted that Muslims in Britain don't feel a sense of belonging.
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He's admitted that there's a real problem with crime with minority communities.
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He's admitted pretty much every talking point of the right, but he's dressed it up in a particular way to say, you should support my redistribution agenda that favors my own community.
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So this is the actual fact-check on what Sadiq Khan said.
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It's not, oh, he's just going to give away houses to Muslims.
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And his role is to help that as much as he can.
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Context, U.S. only fortunately has approximately 1% Muslims.
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Yeah, but they're already congregating in certain given areas, aren't they?
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But who is gayest, Starmer, Macron, or Albanese?
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Yeah, I'd say Macron's the gayest because of his intrinsic Frenchness.
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I'm for the first time in my adult life considering joining a political party and currently looking
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Drunk Changeling says, excite for the lads hour.
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Not as many as I was expecting, I'll be honest.
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Unlike James McMurdoch, I wouldn't get in trouble for it.
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Maybe if they can't feed their own kids, they shouldn't be having so many of them.
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But, again, that assumes, like, goodwill and good faith interface with the system.
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London is what happens when you allow the state to be used as an instrument of plunder.
00:28:40.540
Well, I mean, the state will be used as an instrument of plunder in a multi-ethnic environment.
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That's exactly the segment that I did on Monday, by the way.
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Diversity means that the state is an instrument of plunder for different communities.
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Yeah, so you have to control the state, frankly.
00:28:56.300
Anyway, let's move on, because I think the era of multiculturalism is actually coming to an end,
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And when Nigel Farage is like, well, something's happening out there, it's like, yeah, Nigel,
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You're going to be like, no, no, I don't agree with what's happening when you figure out what it is.
00:29:14.540
But anyway, go for now, and go and get your copy of Islander while you still can.
00:29:18.200
It's not going to be on sale for much longer, and don't have to pay eBay prices for it,
00:29:24.680
You can get it for 15 quid, or whatever your local currency is, and I recommend you do.
00:29:34.880
It was the 1,100th anniversary of King Æthelstan's coronation in Kingston Town.
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Now, you'll know all about King Æthelstan, won't you, Nick?
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I mean, it's not my era, but I've got a bow in here.
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You've got to just give me the right books, and I'll read them,
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but I'm not as good on ancient history as you guys.
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King Alfred expands the kingdom of Wessex to a bit about half of England,
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and it's Æthelstan, his grandson, who conquers the rest of it
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and first becomes the king of all of the English.
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And it was his coronation anniversary yesterday,
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which is very based and very cool, and I like it a lot.
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And slightly surprising that Tom Holland would be at something so based.
00:30:28.960
And I keep telling people, lib dems don't actually hate the country.
00:30:31.340
They just want to be well thought of at their dinner parties.
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But he was the guy that said that covering up the rape gangs had good intentions behind it.
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And he was like, well, it's all about the intentions, right?
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And it's interesting how if you were to ask King Æthelstan now,
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He'd be like, why is it full of heathens and barbarians?
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I spent my entire life crushing and driving out pagans and barbarians.
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I can't help but notice the ethnic composition of the people.
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It's like the Persians coming over the hill, isn't it?
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where they view themselves as a group primarily
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and they think, right, we're stamping our territory
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and we accept that large swathes of the country
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is being attacked by the sort of settler colonialism
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If you're Muslim, you need to go to the mosque now.
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So just sort of, they view it as doing good works
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by reminding people of their duty to go to mosque.
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And it's a way of enforcing community cohesion.
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in the sense that this is preemptive enforcement
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And that's how you get to mass vote, essentially.
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But anyway, so you can see why people are feeling
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who have their own countries that they could go back to
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And then you get the police, who are, of course, on their side.
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I've been doing some conversations between you.
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because potentially someone could perceive that as a hate crime.
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because the police are here to defend the new immigrants
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speak Urdu or Bangladesh or whatever it is they speak
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It's like anyone could potentially perceive anything as anything.
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These policemen have to really look in the mirror
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and say, is this what I want to do with my life?
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And so, of course, this means that the natives are feeling rather dispossessed.
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Here's a chap who was trying to get a job on just a building site,
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and he was just like, there were just no English people around.
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I'm just going to read a quick quote from this,
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My friend's department recently housed a charming East African asylum seeker
00:36:03.000
providing him with a newly refurbished studio on a quiet street line,
00:36:08.600
But then he brought over his wife and multiple children
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Other tenants in the block of flats complained about the noise.
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The family had trouble fitting into one bedsit,
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but the council could not throw them out at such short notice
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it had to provide them with a four-bedroom house.
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Like, if this isn't making your inner gammon rage
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And what's worse is when they just come out and say,
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Well, let's have a look at his bio and find out, shall we?
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So when Migration Watch posts the white British
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and they point out that in some boroughs it's down to less than 20%,
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And John's like, a better London has been created.
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And he was on Newsnight recently saying he's not in favour of the flags.
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It's like, really, the guy that wants white people obliterated from London,
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Since the clip where Trigonometry nod along with Bill Maher,
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And so it's just one of those things where it's like, right, okay,
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we can see the full scope of the system coming into view.
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The point, as John tells us, was to really rub our noses in diversity
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and simply ethnically replace us in our own capital,
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And now you hear them talking about the Shires over and over and over.
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The old lies, the old magic spells don't work anymore.
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And they've realised that, oh, they're summoning up Gammonzilla.
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And I think this is one of those genuinely insightful meme moments
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where it just captures exactly something that is coming into being.
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the governing classes still think about the English masters
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that must be prevented at all costs from erupting.
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and they understand themselves as exercising political power
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because the other one is one of their client groups.
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they've got all sorts of containment mechanisms,
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but I think that these are failing at this point
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Did they actually say hate on his fist as well?
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He may well find himself stomping through the Houses of Parliament,
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Socks look a little bit urban to me, that style.
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They're aware that Gammonzilla has the power to do this
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the power of selection is still in the hands of the general public.
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And, of course, you've got Angela Rayner gone today,
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It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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because they know the England flag represents Gammonzilla.
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No matter what Yvette Cooper says in Parliament,
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oh, well, we should wave the St. George's flag with pride
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because it represents our values of togetherness,
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sort of groupishness of the English working class.
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And, you know, God willing, you know, it'll carry on.
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And so you have the lib class talking about this
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And I think we'll watch a couple of clips of this
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I think you guys will really get a lot out of it.
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You know, the people who've been putting these flags up,
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You are supposed to therefore talk to the people
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But like he says, we haven't heard from these people.
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And so, okay, I'm sure this is going to placate Gammonzilla.
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You know, it's not really that they are racist.
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when the women brought the European Championships home,
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thousands of people waving the flag of St George,
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not one of them needed to or felt the urge to say,
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Because in that context, it's celebrating our unity.
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And I personally object to the flag of my country
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but they know that's not what the England flag...
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Did he find the Muslim Defence League intimidating?
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that come out of the East London mosque intimidating?
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I mean, if you listen to what the Muslim community
00:44:31.260
Yes, you think that it's just never going to happen.
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So we've been dumping on you for half an hour now,
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but we don't want you to think that we don't love England.
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but now make him give the opposite view half-heartedly?
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Yeah, and we didn't hear from the gammons, though,
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and then a communist to discuss English patriotism.
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is what the mainstream thinks is the range of opinion.
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which is meant to be, like, the right-wing paper,
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gave her a very, sort of, like, friendly interview
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because the fact that they're even discussing this,
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Here's our little England flag in the background.
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literally normal people are talking about civil war
00:58:07.880
It starts with a kind of nice sort of filmic scene
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My benefactor turned out to be an asylum seeker.
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I believe he's in Ilford's home office property,
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and so I guess that this guy has heard about this
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because I do not believe this story for a second.
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it goes on and says how these people are just legion.
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whose cases are provocatively trumpeted before the public.
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but what number would you accept then of child,
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But it's still massively disproportionate to the general population.
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I've met people in Lebanon who proudly told me that they were claiming asylum in Germany as Syrian refugees.
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I'm slightly put off by that camera always being right in my way.
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Our desire to eject asylum seekers today is really the barely concealed expression of an enveloping disillusionment with immigration generally,
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an age of migration into something altogether new,
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because it's literally going to come down to the strangers are going home and the friends can stay.
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Because what they're worried about is just every single person.
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I don't want all of these strangers in my country and they shouldn't have been in there in the first place.
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I'm horrified at paying taxes to house some Somali guy with his four wives who's cheating on benefits.
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And we can literally just do it by that standard.
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You would have been ejected back to Afghanistan.
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So this whole thing is so just absolutely stupid.
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It reflects how they view the native population of this country as inherently evil and inherently irrational.
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the more they will will into being something that is extreme and irrational.
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Did you come over and take advantage of the system or did you contribute to the system?
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This is a very good way of determining who are the friends and who are the enemies.
01:02:20.460
And so if you have communities and households that are not net taxpayers,
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This is a very simple and I think straightforward and quite logical and fair-minded way of fixing this problem.
01:02:34.180
She goes on to talk about Rupert Lowe saying he would deport people involved in the grooming gangs.
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even if they were born here or held British citizenship,
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essentially foreigners with another nationality who could legitimately be deported back to their true homes in Pakistan.
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couldn't you say it was their behavior by treating a certain group as other,
01:02:59.420
And because they're not of their religion and race,
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When you see the whole dress code of the Pakistanis,
01:03:08.060
this came into being because of a guy called Awal Al-Bawdoodi,
01:03:11.500
a Pakistani scholar back when India and Pakistan,
01:03:16.600
who said that the Muslims and the Hindus were getting along too well,
01:03:22.020
therefore the Muslims need to be dressed completely differently
01:03:27.540
to make sure that there wouldn't be any sort of successful integration.
01:03:32.160
So when you see these dress codes by the Pakistanis,
01:03:40.860
how are we denoting the community that we're talking about?
01:03:43.880
We denote it by reference to a foreign country.
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you literally call them the British Pakistanis to explain to us who you're talking about in this article.
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because you can't describe them in any other way.
01:04:10.600
This bit though is very much what you were saying.
01:04:12.320
It's a sign of how rapidly the Overton window of acceptable policy has shifted
01:04:15.580
that barely a year has passed since Lowe was forced out of his former party
01:04:25.820
And the funny thing is she's now making Callum points because Callum says one year ago
01:04:30.500
they kicked Bo from the party for advocating mass deportations.
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Zia Yusuf is announcing a mass deportation policy.
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And now the New States was admitting that's exactly what happened.
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I couldn't tell because the name wasn't used to the name.
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Now there's always a danger when you quote Powell because he's going to be far more eloquent
01:05:10.580
than you and he's going to be far more correct than you.
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What Enoch Powell says today is what we say tomorrow.
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once demanded in a fantastical recital of English history.
01:05:37.780
Show us the clue that leads through a thousand years,
01:05:43.520
so profound and embracing that the counties and regions make it a hobby to discover their
01:05:53.060
that's a 1964 and I think the 1961 speech is incredible as well,
01:05:56.200
where he quotes later about the sap of England and how despite the empire,
01:06:01.320
there's still that key sort of core to it and root.
01:06:10.700
The multiculturalism of today's England arose out of a history genuinely rooted and centuries old.
01:06:20.460
was a composite identity formed in the aftermath of the union of England and Scotland.
01:06:25.420
It's like he's talking about England and suddenly it's Britain,
01:06:29.740
But its empire feted Britain to become a multicultural society molded by generations of intercontinental free movement
01:06:37.260
that would catapult Englishmen like Powell abroad and in turn people of diverse origins to Britain.
01:06:43.220
Like for hundreds of years we had a world-spanning empire and we didn't allow any of them to come here.
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Let's pause and sort of go back to my neck of the woods.
01:06:52.540
The Ottomans had an empire spanning parts of Europe, North Africa, Middle East, etc., etc.
01:07:02.140
And they ended up being ridiculously nationalistic about Turkish identity.
01:07:07.180
The idea that just having an empire means that you must therefore adopt multiculturalism is absolutely nonsensical.
01:07:15.340
But if anything, it seems that having the empire is what makes you more nationalistic due to common exposure to foreign cultures,
01:07:22.540
The Ottomans weren't particularly nationalistic when they ruled,
01:07:25.620
but when their empire fell, they became ridiculously nationalistic.
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So the idea that you had an empire in the past, therefore now you must accept multiculturalism,
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And so why are you saying this when you know that it isn't true about the Muslim empire that's most relevant to you?
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And actually, I didn't include it in the end, but Powell, I'll just read it because he had a brilliant bid on this in his 1961 speech.
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He says he's talking about coming back from the empire and finding that England is still there.
01:07:52.780
So the continuity of her existence, meaning England, was unbroken when the looser connections which had linked her with distant continents and strange races fell away.
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Thus our generation is one which comes home again from years of distant wandering.
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We discover affinities with earlier generations of English who felt no country but this to be their own.
01:08:09.740
So he starts with Kipling and things that he's saying, okay, there was this generation of empire, but actually there's always an England there behind it that was never solid by this.
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So completely different to the person writing this article.
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Incidentally, this is a great rebuttal to the whole Michaela story, that just because you learned about Enoch Powell or Rudyard Kipling or what have you, that doesn't mean that you'll actually become British.
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It could just as easily mean that you will use that history in order to undermine England.
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So it's just as a sort of incidental point here.
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The brutal reification of national borders through deportation is now a thoroughly globalized phenomenon.
01:08:58.600
So where's the book that says the nascent frenzy of...
01:09:03.540
Yeah, there's a thing on the screen that's like totally...
01:09:06.920
The nascent frenzy to expel illegal migrants in England is already in a very advanced state in India.
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So she talks about how this is the case in India.
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It reminded me actually of your tweet, Carl, because I think it's the same paradox as this, that the people from around the world are saying we want to have nations.
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So it's a global phenomenon, in a sense, of nations saying we are not the global sludge.
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You know, because globalism, by its nature, being everywhere, trying to undermine every nation everywhere, has made the old adversaries realize actually they're kind of old allies as well.
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Without the English, who are the Irish holding a grudge against?
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You know, without us existing as we are, none of it makes sense and everyone's identity goes away.
01:09:56.000
And actually, it would be better to have a world of nations rather than of, like you say, the sludge.
01:10:00.840
And the fact that your tweet got 71,000 likes, 14.4 million views.
01:10:06.520
But it's obviously resonating with him and with many, and you're just saying what you've just said there.
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Yeah, sorry, there's a light right on the screen, which is why I keep acting retarded.
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But the other thing about this, he says the brutal reification of national borders, suggesting they aren't real.
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Reification suggests they're an abstract that's made real.
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Even if there's something artificial that we construct ourselves, so, so is the bloody internet.
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Just because we construct things doesn't mean they're not valid and decent and good.
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Yeah, and the only bit I agree with, in a sense, is that when he says dismantling international human rights laws is therefore not a solution.
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The answer, if it exists at all, lies in strengthening it so that fewer people are made stateless or forced to flee illegal wars and persecution.
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I mean, if they want to do that so they never leave in the first place, I'm down for this.
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What he's saying is literally anyone from anywhere, for any reason, should be able to claim asylum in Britain.
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Yeah, of course, because dismantling international human rights laws isn't a solution for the shit-lib globalist who writes for the New Statesman, but it is absolutely a solution for the normal people of the world.
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Yeah, and I don't know how much time we have, but there was another article in the New Statesman as well, which was interesting, because it was Andrew Marr, kind of a lefty but mainstream.
01:11:32.840
And it was probably too big to go through the whole thing, but he calls it the left's immigration failure.
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And he's not saying deportations are inevitable.
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He basically, in the piece, says he has a sort of technocratic Malthusian vision.
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And he says the left's got to get ahead of this, but purely from a resource management thing.
01:11:52.920
He says we're not going back from migration, which is different from the other article, but they're definitely going to lose if they don't manage it.
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And he's constantly worried throughout the article that actually it is going to be more like the other article describes it.
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It is going to be this brutal deportation thing.
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There's one particular bit in it that would infuriate you, though.
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So he talks about government having two obligations.
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I was kind of reminding you, when you said earlier, are you not furious about the way that migrants are being prioritised for housing and things like this?
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He talks about two obligations that the government has.
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So Labour has struggled to straddle two different kinds of political obligation.
01:12:34.900
There is an obligation to the wretched of the earth, to a wider world affected by war, climate change and tyranny.
01:12:40.200
There are a few, and he talks about there would be a few British people that wouldn't want to save a drowning child.
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But he says there is for the government a second obligation, which is to the sustainability and happiness of the people already here.
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That means having an overview of the number who can be fed, housed and educated sustainably.
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Taking into account the reasonable and unselfish desires of the current population for space, air and security.
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He talks about, OK, there's militant Muslims against white English racists, and we all need to compete for space and air.
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But it's very kind of, it really shows actually the Labour failure to deal with any of this.
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I realised that thinking, when I realised that thinking about things in a materialistic way,
01:13:28.980
I began to sort of change my mind about important questions.
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Because if you think that this is simply a material question, you will never understand it.
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So all I can hear is Gammonzilla chanting, Inga Lund, Inga Lund, Inga Lund.
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That's all I can hear when he speaks like this.
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And even the sort of vision, at the end he sort of offers a vision.
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I can imagine a future a few years ahead in which the government, perhaps by using the
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deterrent effect of quick asylum returns and ID cards for all workers, copying the Danes
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and Swede, begins to win the battle on migration.
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And such efforts would inevitably start a conversation about sustainable population levels.
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This is the only way he can conceive of this argument.
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I just don't understand, like, the government could win the war on immigration.
01:14:25.700
Who's literally ferrying them in across the channel?
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Well, it's the Royal Navy and the Coast Guard, actually.
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And there's one part in the article that even says, to repeat, there is, anyway, no going
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It's like, that's weird, because another article in the same publication says they're totally
01:14:52.300
No, no, I've spoken to people, I'm not going to name them, who have just been like, look,
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You know, like, in the early 20th century, we didn't accept a lot of stuff.
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You know, like, 1920s, where we had, like, mass deportations between Greece and Turkey
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It's just a much cleaner solution if everyone just switches over.
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You know, and after World War II, the Germans were deported out of Eastern Europe.
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And honestly, I can see something like that coming about again, because it's just like,
01:15:20.620
look, there are loads of problems in the future.
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Or we could just get this done cleanly without anyone being killed.
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And honestly, generations in the future will thank us.
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And while you're doing that, I'll get the actual comments up.
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Omar says, Takiyah Khan keeps saying British Muslims, but he's describing both non-native
01:15:53.840
passport holders and refusing to exclude non-British Muslims.
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And this sort of linguistic denotation games are very important to keep an eye on.
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And it's one of those things you don't really think about, because it's just the sort of
01:16:12.460
Like, he is describing literally any Muslim in Britain as a British Muslim, as equally as
01:16:18.780
So that Eritrean asylum seeker or whatever, is just as much of a claim as, you know, your
01:16:23.560
nan, who is being kicked out of a house or whatever.
01:16:26.780
But anyway, right, let's go to the video comments.
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Okay, apparently the video comments haven't been edited.
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So after the podcast, I will be thrashing the editing team.
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Sorry to gold tier members who sent us a video comment, and we can't watch it.
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But trust me, they'll get a good old Saudi justice.
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My first proper job was stacking shelves in Morrisons for £2.16 an hour.
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Before all that, I did my paper round when I was 30 years old.
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Six miles around to earn money to buy the latest heavy metal tapes to listen to on my paper
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It was washing up in my parents' little restaurant.
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So they ran a little restaurant, and I was forced to wash up in it.
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But it was a job because it was an official restaurant.
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Mine was working, peeling potatoes in a chip shop.
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To be honest with you, I actually really enjoyed it.
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Because, like, it was, you know, there was the counter and then a door that led into the
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And basically, what I had to do is put huge bags of potatoes into this sort of churning
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Here's a tub of chips, basically, for the front.
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I'd do it for, you know, three hours a night or something.
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And I was just on my own, just like, you know, singing along to my music and just being
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But Russian says, surprising number of younger, pretty women at the Reform Conference.
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There were, like, for the first couple of years, as you were there, mostly it was like
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But this year, there were like half a dozen attractive single women.
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Russian says, the women are like, yeah, okay, no, it's going over there.
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I'm going to get myself a husband from this side.
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This reminds me of, do you see my tweet the other day?
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About Susanna, Susanna Rhee, whatever she's called.
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So she was suddenly, like, sort of making the case.
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Yeah, like a little bit to Kevin Maguire, who's obviously left of anyone.
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And I suddenly came up with this term, the ovary window.
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Which is when women decide it's acceptable to move.
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It's not quite Gammonzilla, but it's pretty good.
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I think it subtly describes a very real phenomenon that everyone can feel.
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Like, when the women realize the men have actually built something sustainable and they need to be on the right side of it, the ovary window shifts.
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And, and, but then that's good for all the young men who'd put in all the time and effort.
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See, see, don't let anyone tell you it doesn't.
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But yeah, no, I think the ovary window is a superb coinage and well done.
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I think Mary did a good job on that one because it rolls off the tongue and it's got that kind of intimidating, like, implication.
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You know, but yeah, the Gammon's going to start destroying everything.
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Michael says, funny, my work as an English speaking, my work has an English speaking rule.
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But the leftists say it's for health and safety.
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Okidor has sent us a super chat saying, by what, by what these articles sound, sound like, I'm surprised they're not saying the great Indian poet Rudyard Kipling.
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How can they not say the great Indian poet Rudyard Kipling, right?
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Because he was born and raised in India, but everyone knows he was an Englishman.
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And when decolonization came, they just pointed at him and said, out.
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Because you're English and we know you're English, you know, and the same thing can happen here and it can happen anywhere.
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I love the idea of Gammonzilla, an ancient beast released from the planet itself as a cleansing ritual.
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Being awoken to correct the sins of modernity and stomping around saying, I just don't like them, is beauty personified.
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And I think every country has its own Gammonzilla.
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Omar says, even Gammonzilla is the peaceful option because once he's achieved a British Britain, he'll calmly go back to sleep.
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If they awake the Gammon Reich, the trials will be legendary in their ruthlessness.
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If we decide the world needs another British empire, I don't think we'll be quite so polite this time.
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I don't think it will come to anything like that.
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But I do think that basically we're watching at the moment the pillars holding up the liberal order just falling one by one.
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And I think in like 10 years time, we'll find that things are just done in a really different way.
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I think everybody will end up pretending that they were for it all along.
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Everybody will end up pretending that, oh, I was always in favor.
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I was never in favor of putting the asylum seekers up in hotels.
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And people will just dig up one of their tweets from 2023 and be like, what's this thing?
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Yeah, there's a similar thing to Gammonzilla in Brexit, An Uncivil War.
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The film where Benedict Cumberbatch plays Dominic Cummings.
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And he says Britain makes a sound and it's like he's got his ear on the ground.
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It's like Britain's making this grumbling low sound.
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And it came out during Brexit and it sort of goes away.
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And he's like, it's been sort of quenched for now.
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It would be satated for now, but then he'll come back.
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You know, Gammonzilla is going to make himself heard.
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Kevin says, the problem with Gammonzilla today is that he has a Liberal Democrat tumour eating away at one foot, stopping him from going on full rampage.
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Yeah, but the problem the Liberal Democrats have is the second the machetes are in the street, they'll vote for the BNP.
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But when the machetes are running down their street, that's it.
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I mean, you even saw the sort of outlying signs of it in Ed Davey talking about the noise on the train.
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I mean, they're like the Lib Dems back in the lakes where I'm from.
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And, you know, so even in the Lib Dems, the Gammonzilla lives, you know.
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Let's watch the video comments that have finally arrived.
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Let me, do you want to grab the video comments?
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And Zerg for $50, thanks man, says, take my money.
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I found my soon-to-be wife on your Discord five years ago.
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Yeah, why are you giving people that have put nothing into the tax system?
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The money the government's spending is not the government's money.
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It is money you rub off us in all the taxes we take.
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It's why a pint in Spain costs you next to nothing.
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But here, unless you are earning 70 grand a year, you can't afford to go to the pub.
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And if you could send out a message to the government, what would you say?
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Definitely a libertarian there making the argument against tax.
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Oh, this is the most traditional English position in the world, though.
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What was that war that was purely about some minor taxing?
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No, there was one you were telling me about one of the old English wars.
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I will not cease from mental fright, nor shall my soul sleep in my hand, till we have built
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Jerusalem, in England's green and pleasant land.
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All I'm saying is, if I were in the government, I'd be like, look, we're just going to have
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I mean, did you see the thing about the lady who was killed in the NHS hospital?
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But it's like, okay, am I going to place bets on what kind of person did that?
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Mother of Hate Monsters says, can we please get re-migration completed as England's 1,100th
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Roman Observer says, the left lost, they're begging for mercy.
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They just haven't noticed it yet because they're bad at noticing.
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The gang rape may have been a way to vent frustration due to migration experiences.
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Sporadically, I go back over speeches from the BBC's annual Reith lectures.
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Some are remarkably based, others woefully woke.
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I was shocked to find such heinous attitudes as are currently used to excuse migrants' behaviour
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have dated back at least to 1961 and the fourth in Marjorie Perham's lecture series
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She actually attempted to excuse retaliatory orgies of severe sexual assault of white women
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I mean, it is absolutely right that in the 60s you see all of the shit-lib arguments being
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Like, if you go back and watch Jonathan Miller's discussion with Enoch Powell, and it's just
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Go back to the Race Relations Act 1965 and the lefties are all doing it.
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And the thing is, as well, Enoch Powell was just vindicated so much.
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Like, because Miller's entire argument was just that numbers don't add up.
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Like, Enoch's like, well, I think a third of Birmingham could be of minority extraction.
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And Miller's just like, no, I don't think that'll happen.
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It's like, but if you keep adding people to it, one plus one, plus one, plus one.
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He also says two other tropes, they always do it.
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One, it'll be different, but why will it necessarily be worse?
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And also, if you stop going on about it, isn't that the problem?
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The charisma of your office is making people worry.
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They did the exact same in Enoch's 1981 immigration speech.
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The lefties all interrupt him and say exactly the same thing.
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Those two things always, like, you're doing this, and it'll be fine.
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You can avoid 100% of rapes if you just say yes.
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There it was in his hands, my wheel, and then everyone clapped.
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Kevin says, this is why the one in, one out is a lie.
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Because the one in will be someone who's been granted asylum,
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so the next thing they will do is use the reunification
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to bring the four wives, 20 kids in, and so it's one out, 15 in.
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And this is what the Tories did when they were sneaking in the Afghan migrants.
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25,000 Afghan migrants, but how many family members?
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Because they snuck it in and then used a legal injunction
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So, we will be live on lotuses.com in 30 minutes,
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You should be pretty shocked, though, by the results.
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I know, but that's not a picture of me looking at my results.