The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus East for Friday the 5th

00:00:04.380 of September 2025. I am joined by Nick and Ferris, and today we are going to be talking about how

00:00:10.800 Sadiq Khan has given the game away with his State Resources for Muslims speech, how we are going to

00:00:18.260 witness the rise of Gammonzilla in the near future, and they are terrified of it, and because of their

00:00:25.100 terror, the deportations are coming. This is all just generally good news, I think. Like at the

00:00:30.280 Witan the other day, right, I was doing the Q&A, and I was like, two years ago, I came around and I

00:00:34.880 gave a speech in which I pointed out, we don't act like we're inevitable at this point. We're kind of

00:00:39.540 acting like we want this to happen, but we don't think it is actually going to happen. And I asked

00:00:43.840 everyone, okay, put your hand up now if you think this is absolutely happening. And everyone was

00:00:48.140 just like, yeah, no, the right is inevitable at this point. There's just no, the left is completely

00:00:53.620 collapsed. In fact, speaking of collapsing, we've got some breaking news that we're going to break

00:00:57.620 with. Angela Rayner has resigned because of her housing tax code issue, which actually makes a 0.99

00:01:05.880 really great point about how complex things are. If even the housing minister can get sunk by the

00:01:11.020 housing tax code, maybe that needs to be sorted out, Keir Starmer. But also, Labour's investment

00:01:17.020 minister, Poppy Gustafsson, who's a member of Rachel Reeves' treasury team, has resigned as well. So this is

00:01:22.540 like, oh, dominoes falling. Mate, 2025 election, I'm telling you, it's happening. I would absolutely

00:01:28.040 love it. Let's get Farage out of the way. Anyway, like I said, we're going to be starting with Sadiq

00:01:33.120 Khan giving the game away. Before we begin, we've got lads out this afternoon, and it's the lads

00:01:37.840 hour everyone has been waiting for. We all got our DNA tests. There are my ancestors, unironically,

00:01:45.220 actually. Whereas I'm so English, I broke the test. Just as white as possible. Whereas 1.00

00:01:51.760 you're sort of a global citizen, really. At least a quarter of me is a global citizen.

00:01:56.680 But we'll cover that on lads out on lotuseats.com. So come over and find us there. But right,

00:02:01.640 without further ado, let's begin. Yep. And please go ahead and buy an issue of the Islander magazine.

00:02:07.600 You can find it on the store on the Lotus Eaters website. Now I want to tell you how Sadiq Khan

00:02:14.840 has revealed that he's pretty much wrong about everything important in life.

00:02:19.900 No kidding.

00:02:20.800 Yeah. So let's sort of start. He had an interview last year with the Islam Channel, where he made

00:02:28.580 a bunch of statements. Now this is making the rounds again, presenting Sadiq Khan as saying

00:02:33.360 that he's going to give council houses only to Muslims. He didn't quite say that, although

00:02:37.860 he did clearly imply that they would be the priority for him. It's an important interview.

00:02:44.420 And since Reuters took the time to fact check it and say, no, no, he didn't promise all

00:02:50.300 of these freebies to Muslims, I wanted to explore it in depth and dissect it and show you why 1.00

00:02:57.100 he's pretty much wrong about everything substantial in life. Let's listen to the man.

00:03:02.260 Samson, eight years. I've sought to be a mayor for all Londoners, whether you're Muslim,

00:03:12.820 you know, Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, member of unorganized faith or not.

00:03:17.440 I know many Londoners who are Muslims suffer real challenges in relation to not having their

00:03:22.640 potential fulfilled because they're going hungry at school. Their parents are stressed and they're

00:03:27.340 skipping meals because they're worried about how their kids are going to eat. So if I'm reelected,

00:03:31.080 I will make my groundbreaking policy of free school meals permanent, which will really make a

00:03:35.800 difference. A family with one child will save 500 pounds a year. The second big thing I...

00:03:41.360 So I wanted to just take all of this interview in context and just break it down step by step.

00:03:47.860 The first question that I have is, why can't you afford to feed your own children?

00:03:52.200 Yeah, what a damning indictment of the Muslim community. 1.00

00:03:54.660 Exactly, exactly. So if the beginning, if the starting point for Sadik Khan is that

00:03:59.980 Muslims in London can't even afford to feed their own kids, the answer is they really shouldn't be in 1.00

00:04:07.260 London. The idea of importing starving people to be on welfare and to be dependent on the state 0.96

00:04:14.560 for something as basic as feeding your own children. We all go through hard times. We all owe each other

00:04:20.300 charity sometimes. But charity is a communal effort within the community. Simply showing up in another

00:04:27.220 person's country and saying, feed me and feed me forever is fundamentally different from demanding

00:04:33.200 Christian charity.

00:04:34.460 Sure. But have you considered that they don't care and you're prepared to give them money through the

00:04:39.040 state and so they're prepared to take it?

00:04:40.720 Exactly. Which is what it is. It's resource redistribution along ethnic and religious lines

00:04:46.540 to benefit people who can't even feed themselves. If you can't feed yourself, it doesn't strike me as

00:04:53.280 wise to bring you into my home permanently. I can't, I can't help but feel that they might not be as

00:05:02.000 honest about this as we might expect as well. Yes. Ah, my children, I can't feed them. You have to feed

00:05:07.600 them. Yes, yes, absolutely. Absolutely. The whole issue of cheating on benefits is a very substantial one.

00:05:13.640 I'm saying they're driving like taxis for cash or something. No, I'm saying they just go to school

00:05:21.340 and tell them you haven't had breakfast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like that. Yes. You're saying

00:05:26.280 they're not quite in tune with the high trust fair play society car. Weirdly, they don't share the

00:05:31.600 Protestant values that seem to underpin England. Yes. But let's listen to what his second priority is,

00:05:39.180 because again, this was supposedly taken out of context. And I want to go through this step by step.

00:05:47.720 Samson, can you control this? Fulfilling their potential. Often they're underemployed or in jobs

00:05:52.080 that, you know, they can do better jobs, but they haven't got the skills. Every Londoner who is on low

00:05:58.580 income or not working will get free training to get the skills for jobs that are created in London,

00:06:03.980 really important in this great city. They're the big issue facing Londoners.

00:06:08.920 So let's pause here for a second again. If people aren't fulfilling their wages in the

00:06:15.780 their potential in the economic capital of Europe, at least it's partly their own fault.

00:06:22.460 Again, another damning indictment. Yeah, I've got a bunch of untrained Muslims who can't earn any money. 1.00

00:06:26.340 So you have to train them and feed them. Sorry, this isn't the British Empire. If we were if we

00:06:31.120 were governors over Pakistan or whatever, maybe I'd agree. But we're not so piss off. 0.86

00:06:36.260 This is the whole theme of it. The whole theme of it is that what's happening is that London is being

00:06:41.660 flooded with low wage, low skilled people who are basically taking away the jobs from young English 1.00

00:06:50.720 people who would start their career with a low level job, such as I don't know, stacking shelves or

00:06:58.160 working in a warehouse or being delivery drivers, or what have you. These are perfect jobs if you're

00:07:03.760 1415 17, a good way to save some pocket money, a good way to learn financial responsibility become

00:07:09.880 autonomous. Instead of doing that, what's happening is that people are being brought in on benefits to

00:07:15.840 fill these jobs, and usually to figure out ways of cheating the system. And it's these precise people

00:07:23.840 who are Mayor Sadiq Khan's priority. That's that doesn't exactly seem sensible. But he's presenting

00:07:31.740 that as his own electoral platform, because he knows that he will get a certain ethnic and religious

00:07:38.120 vote supporting him, because he's going to redistribute money to them.

00:07:42.540 But also, this interview with the Islam channel, you kind of notice that he begins by saying,

00:07:49.960 oh, well, I mean, for all Londoners, but here I'm going to focus on the Muslims and what I'm

00:07:53.480 going to do for them. And here's all of this stuff for the Muslims. It's like, right, okay, 0.93

00:07:57.380 I believe you, Sadiq.

00:07:59.140 Yeah, exactly.

00:07:59.600 I believe you.

00:08:00.340 Exactly.

00:08:00.780 You're going to do all this.

00:08:01.300 It's funny how he just has the mic where it says Islam. I know it says channel underneath 0.98

00:08:05.120 him. If you had a WWE character of the Muslim there, it would be this guy. 0.86

00:08:09.580 He's completely comfortable with it. And I, like I said, I believe that this is what he's going to do.

00:08:13.980 Yep. His third priority around housing is what got people riled up. And I really want to take

00:08:19.120 some time to sort of discuss that in a little more detail and give it the attention it deserves.

00:08:25.520 Sorry, Samson, can we, can you say that for us?

00:08:28.820 And so we need to build far more homes in our city, because, you know, often people from minority 1.00

00:08:33.040 communities want to live near a mosque, near halal food, near places where other people like them.

00:08:37.600 So they, you know, for a variety of obvious reasons, and they're priced out.

00:08:41.200 Can we pause that?

00:08:41.700 Because there's not enough houses.

00:08:43.420 Because, look, often people from minority communities want to live near a mosque and get 1.00

00:08:48.000 their halal food. It's like, I don't think that's communities plural.

00:08:51.220 Yeah, it's communities plural.

00:08:52.380 These Polish people that love the halal and the mosque.

00:08:56.000 The Romanians and Bulgarians and the Hindus and the Sikhs. 0.55

00:08:58.880 For me, it's the thoughtlessness of it all, in the sense that if it was white flight and 0.93

00:09:07.760 people trying to avoid people who are different from them, it would be called racism.

00:09:12.020 If it's people congregating with others who are like them, which is a natural human impulse,

00:09:18.320 you've had Irish neighborhoods, you've had Jewish neighborhoods, you've had all kinds of

00:09:22.320 ethnic enclaves, wherever different ethnicities mix, then it's a good thing. 0.96

00:09:27.820 And we need to provide them with social housing, says Mayor Khan.

00:09:35.320 At least 6,000 rent control homes.

00:09:37.500 And the final thing to say in relation to Londoners who are Muslims.

00:09:40.900 So he's promising 40,000 new council houses to make sure that people can live around their 1.00

00:09:47.140 own kin, excluding you guys.

00:09:51.400 Sorry.

00:09:51.860 That's what integration looks like.

00:09:52.980 That's what integration looks like, apparently.

00:09:54.540 That's exactly what integration looks like.

00:09:56.940 And the question that I have here is, have you considered the feelings of the people who

00:10:01.960 already live there?

00:10:03.740 As someone from Lebanon, I remember how the Palestinian inflow into Lebanon.

00:10:10.880 pretty much destroyed the country and led to civil war.

00:10:14.200 I remember how the Syrian inflow into Lebanon pretty much destroyed the country and crippled 1.00

00:10:18.760 it for a generation.

00:10:20.480 And so I've seen this playbook a bunch of times.

00:10:25.640 First comes, oh, please be tolerant.

00:10:28.020 Oh, please be inclusive.

00:10:29.200 Oh, please be forgiving.

00:10:30.700 Then come the conditions.

00:10:32.540 We want halal meat.

00:10:33.560 We want to live around people who are like us.

00:10:35.680 We want you to respect our beliefs.

00:10:37.840 Then comes, well, we're a majority now. 0.99

00:10:40.180 Well, screw you. 0.99

00:10:42.060 So the playbook is a pretty standard one. 0.98

00:10:45.680 And at no point does it take account of the people who already live there and their identity

00:10:50.580 and their beliefs and what they want.

00:10:52.940 Well, I mean, I'm not sure that it doesn't take any account of them.

00:10:55.820 I mean, it takes account of how much money they have and how much money can be funneled

00:10:58.900 through the state.

00:10:59.780 Of course.

00:11:00.180 To this particular community.

00:11:01.960 Yep, pretty much.

00:11:02.680 If it's the same playbook, which it obviously is, and it's quite explicit, why do people

00:11:06.660 fall for it every time?

00:11:07.600 I mean, they're not shy about announcing.

00:11:09.100 I think you're being intolerant.

00:11:11.060 And I think I'm about to call the police to report your intolerance and mine.

00:11:17.620 I was being satirical.

00:11:18.420 Jokes are not allowed.

00:11:22.800 I don't know if you've heard, but jokes are no longer tolerated.

00:11:26.780 You might offend someone's feelings.

00:11:28.800 But it really is a bit stunning that the argument here is that people should be imported to

00:11:37.100 live in social housing and in rent-controlled properties and to have their children fed

00:11:42.200 by the state.

00:11:43.100 And trained.

00:11:43.720 And to have their children trained by the state because they can't make it work in the

00:11:49.600 economic capital of Europe.

00:11:51.380 Incredible thing as well.

00:11:52.220 I mean, it's one thing to say ghettos are a problem. 1.00

00:11:54.820 It's actually slightly better than what they do with social housing, which is they put it

00:11:57.780 next to people who bought the house or who bought a share of it.

00:12:00.600 And you have to look across, because I've done this, at the people you're going to work

00:12:03.660 to pay for, who are doing nothing, and who have destroyed their part of their block or

00:12:07.660 their side of the building.

00:12:09.040 And you're like, oh, I'm going out to work now so they can watch this massive telly and

00:12:12.340 I have to watch it.

00:12:13.360 And of course, they're not from England either.

00:12:14.940 And I'm just like, yeah, yeah, he completely.

00:12:18.100 Recipes determined to Michael Douglas when I'm falling down.

00:12:20.420 Yeah, but you can feel Gammonzilla rising.

00:12:22.500 Yeah, I can feel it back.

00:12:23.080 I can really feel him rising.

00:12:25.160 And also they make noise.

00:12:25.940 I live in a place that made so much noise, like outside, kids outside, no parent supervision,

00:12:30.860 screaming, sorry to hydrate you a bit, but screaming for hours and hours.

00:12:34.100 This went on for years.

00:12:35.040 The social housing kids, no one looking after them, just feral children.

00:12:38.400 I know this is like the most Tory thing I've ever said.

00:12:40.300 No, no, no.

00:12:41.780 It's Corbyn policy.

00:12:43.080 It's this leftist policy to put them, put it in.

00:12:45.580 You want to put it so we can't keep it separate.

00:12:46.960 You want to put it in with the people that have sweated to pay for the housing.

00:12:50.280 It doesn't work.

00:12:51.620 It's bound to great resentment.

00:12:53.180 Anyway, sorry.

00:12:53.500 Yep, it is.

00:12:54.320 It is.

00:12:54.640 It absolutely is.

00:12:55.540 I hate it.

00:12:56.060 I hate it so much, man.

00:12:59.340 Sorry.

00:13:00.100 Samson, can you control this?

00:13:01.480 This is getting comic.

00:13:02.320 Yeah, we get the sound.

00:13:03.360 We lose the sound.

00:13:04.320 Go back a couple of seconds as well.

00:13:06.240 I'm really proud of, and say in relation to Londoners who are Muslim, is look, one of

00:13:12.660 our strengths is our diversity.

00:13:14.600 It's, you know, say I'm really proud of.

00:13:15.740 You know, I've organized, since I've been mayor, events like Eden the Square, Ramadan

00:13:20.680 Lights, and so forth.

00:13:22.020 Why is that important?

00:13:22.900 It gives a sense of belonging.

00:13:24.720 Look.

00:13:25.560 What's being admitted here.

00:13:27.240 That's incredible.

00:13:27.800 Where's the diversity?

00:13:29.000 Yeah, where's the diversity?

00:13:30.060 Sorry, don't forget.

00:13:30.760 What's being admitted here is more important.

00:13:33.520 What's being admitted here accidentally is even more important.

00:13:36.580 It's not about just where is the diversity.

00:13:39.120 What's being admitted is that there isn't a sense of belonging.

00:13:41.980 Yes.

00:13:42.260 It's a realization that this isn't your country.

00:13:44.900 Now, I know that this isn't my country.

00:13:46.720 I happen to be a friend of this country.

00:13:48.880 But the admission here is that there is no sense of belonging.

00:13:53.260 It must be artificially engineered.

00:13:55.660 It is artificially engineered by creating events that are for Muslims, and by making these 1.00

00:14:01.400 events high profile, like having iftar in Trafalgar Square as a sort of, you know, here

00:14:08.900 we are, we're dominant, as having various events around Ramadan to celebrate something

00:14:14.340 that is completely alien to Britain and to England, and to say, no, no, no, this is normal 0.91

00:14:20.720 now, and this is what inclusion looks like.

00:14:23.200 I don't think that an iftar is going to attract, I don't know, the average crowd from Essex

00:14:29.320 who were originally from East London.

00:14:31.240 I don't think these people are going to say, yeah, it's a wonderful iftar, let's go for

00:14:36.280 it.

00:14:37.560 If anything, it takes on the aspect of settler colonialism, doesn't it?

00:14:40.700 Extract resources from the natives so a foreign community can come in and terraform the landscape 1.00

00:14:45.500 to be more suitable to them, and then instantiate all of their religious and cultural habits

00:14:50.680 there at the expense and completely against the will of the natives.

00:14:55.300 How is it not?

00:14:56.380 To be very fair, it will be somewhat diverse, there will be English Liberal Democrat politicians

00:15:01.520 there, so Ed Davey, King Charles will be there, absolutely terrified, yes, and thousands

00:15:07.640 of them trying to practice anything with their hands.

00:15:15.640 It's not Samson's fault, it's really not.

00:15:18.080 I know it's not his fault.

00:15:18.660 What Donald Trump won in 2016 was because friends of mine, people in America, were complacent,

00:15:23.360 thinking that we've made progress, we're going to carry on making progress, and the frustration

00:15:27.420 we had was the lack of pace in progress, and lo and behold, it went backwards, right?

00:15:32.180 I think the same is happening here.

00:15:33.840 Over the last eight years since I've been male, I think I've had five years.

00:15:37.720 So this is an important point.

00:15:41.020 Progress.

00:15:42.120 Can someone define it?

00:15:43.160 Yes, I can.

00:15:43.720 It's the Islamification of Britain for him. 0.97

00:15:45.680 There you go.

00:15:46.180 He's got no other telos here at all.

00:15:48.340 It's like, no, we need to get as many Muslims over, we need to get them trained, get them 1.00

00:15:51.300 paid for, get them fed, get their institutions up and running, and that's progress.

00:15:55.860 I mean, didn't get that in America.

00:15:56.940 In fact, you've got Gammonzilla in America coming up in the form of Donald Trump.

00:16:00.200 Return to an ancient system of governance.

00:16:03.160 You know, whatever its merits is not really progress, is it?

00:16:06.500 Well, I mean, again, it depends which direction you're going in, right?

00:16:10.780 If you're like, okay, I want to get to that destination, which is the Islamification of 1.00

00:16:14.120 Britain, and you want to get to, I'd like Britain to be a normal British country,

00:16:17.680 well, you're definitely not getting the progress you want, and he's getting all the progress

00:16:21.340 he wants.

00:16:21.960 Yeah, pretty much.

00:16:22.880 Pretty much.

00:16:23.300 Pretty much.

00:16:23.480 The goal's assumed, and then it's just how far, well along, blip, blip, blip, how far

00:16:27.420 the barrel is filled up.

00:16:28.380 I can't believe Sadiq Khan, very public Muslim and chair of the Fabian Society, is doing

00:16:35.440 this to us.

00:16:36.220 Who can imagine?

00:16:37.500 Yep.

00:16:38.000 Absolutely.

00:16:44.080 Not as easy as it looks.

00:16:45.200 No, it's not.

00:16:45.560 I had to do this.

00:16:46.120 It's wobbly that much.

00:16:46.800 Sunak, that instability leads to problems, and they've also used policies to divide our

00:16:59.760 communities, pitted north versus south, old versus young, some communities against the

00:17:05.460 other.

00:17:06.080 That's why we've got to be vigilant, and we've got to work really hard to be friends

00:17:08.900 of our neighbours, provide allyship.

00:17:11.020 And one of the things I'm really proud of is how Muslims and Jews work together, or Hindus

00:17:15.280 and Sikhs work together, or Christians and Muslims work together, and so forth.

00:17:18.700 That's a really good model.

00:17:19.720 I was last night at London Citizens, and on the stage was, you know, a rabbi and, you

00:17:25.660 know, a Muslim leader working together to support asylum seekers.

00:17:30.160 That was like an old pub joke.

00:17:32.780 There was a Muslim and a rabbi.

00:17:34.000 I mean, I've been, have you seen a lot of Jews and Muslims working together on the streets

00:17:37.580 of London?

00:17:37.940 But look at his argument.

00:17:38.940 We all have to work together, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, to get as many 0.91

00:17:42.880 Muslims into this country as possible. 0.99

00:17:44.560 Exactly.

00:17:44.980 It's like, sorry, no, I'm not in favour of that.

00:17:47.140 That's all.

00:17:47.880 Exactly.

00:17:48.800 I mean, what point is Trump representing backwardness?

00:17:52.620 Yes.

00:17:52.760 The idea of your own nation first is backwards.

00:17:56.480 Yes.

00:17:56.660 Now, Sadiq Khan said nothing about the expulsion of Afghans from Pakistan.

00:18:02.300 Whenever India and Pakistan get into a fight, the Pakistani and Indians on the progressive 0.85

00:18:08.080 side start fighting each other, each one for his own ethnic kin or religious kin, and

00:18:13.880 the argument between them is sort of, you know, endless.

00:18:17.480 There's no resolution to it.

00:18:19.220 It's about a solution for it.

00:18:20.360 Exactly.

00:18:20.700 It's about staking out territory.

00:18:21.780 One has to go and the other can stay.

00:18:23.240 Exactly.

00:18:23.600 And so everything implied in what he says, oh, the communities are being divided from

00:18:31.160 each other.

00:18:31.740 No, no, no.

00:18:32.380 The fact that there is diversity allows for communal divisions to emerge.

00:18:38.180 Now, some diversity is going to be there.

00:18:39.960 It's not going to allow.

00:18:40.240 It necessarily makes them happen.

00:18:41.920 Unless you're under an imperial system that keeps everybody under a fair enough boot, which

00:18:49.240 is the only time where Lebanon worked, when there were either the Ottomans or the French.

00:18:53.600 So saying that this is, you know, good, that this is progress, it implies a sort of moral

00:19:00.880 universe that is completely alien to what, say, a Christian Mount Lebanon would be, or

00:19:07.280 to what a Druze Mount Lebanon would be, or to what an English England would be. 0.98

00:19:12.060 That's correct.

00:19:13.060 It's entirely alien.

00:19:15.060 And this is what he's offering.

00:19:16.500 He's saying, I will work together with rabbis and whoever, in order to make sure that there

00:19:21.820 are more asylum seekers.

00:19:23.180 Yes.

00:19:23.400 Now, given what's happened over the last few years in terms of Jewish and Muslim relations,

00:19:30.080 I don't know how this really works.

00:19:32.620 But the fact that in 2024, you had Jewish rabbis willing to say, we want more asylum seekers

00:19:37.360 from the Middle East and Africa who are going to side with the Muslims against us. 0.99

00:19:42.260 That's just suicidal. 0.99

00:19:43.780 That's just insane.

00:19:46.580 It's destructive.

00:19:47.540 I guess they have a place to retreat to, though.

00:19:49.420 It all goes belly up, right?

00:19:50.660 They do have a place to retreat to.

00:19:51.820 We only have one England.

00:19:53.840 Yep.

00:19:54.320 Pretty much.

00:19:54.980 Pretty much.

00:19:55.920 So the point of this segment is that Sadiq Khan is wrong about everything important in

00:20:02.620 life.

00:20:02.880 And everything he said in that interview, even though he didn't say, I'm going to give

00:20:07.540 these houses only for Muslims, although he did say the purpose of these additional houses

00:20:12.500 is to help Muslims live next to other Muslims.

00:20:14.700 And near the mosques.

00:20:15.720 And near the mosques.

00:20:16.400 And near the halal shops.

00:20:17.660 And near their own kin.

00:20:19.340 Yeah.

00:20:20.200 He did say that, even though Reuters did a silly fact check saying, well, no, not quite,

00:20:25.640 not exactly.

00:20:27.480 Am I going to not read between the lines on this?

00:20:31.220 Of course I am.

00:20:31.980 Exactly.

00:20:32.300 But the thing is, I'm not sure I'd say he's wrong, right?

00:20:35.260 Because I think that from his own paradigm, he's completely correct about what he's doing.

00:20:39.620 I've become the mayor of London, so I can funnel resources to the Muslim community, so

00:20:43.180 I can get them trained and get them educated and get them food and get them resources.

00:20:46.360 And so they...

00:20:46.860 At your expense.

00:20:47.800 At the expense.

00:20:48.540 At the taxpayers' expense.

00:20:49.520 In order to continue Islamifying Britain. 1.00

00:20:53.440 And, I mean, that's not wrong, as in technically, logically incorrect, from his point of view.

00:20:59.600 That's precisely desirable.

00:21:00.880 It's just really undesirable for just the native people of this country. 1.00

00:21:04.720 Yes.

00:21:05.320 Pretty much.

00:21:05.980 Pretty much.

00:21:06.460 And, you know, outside of a relativist framework, it's also objectively wrong, but that's a different

00:21:10.240 conversation that I'll say for a different time.

00:21:13.280 He goes on to have more housing in London.

00:21:20.320 That's the sort of teamwork I want to see in our city.

00:21:22.680 Look, you know, I'm somebody who is a member of Parliament for 11 years and been mayor for

00:21:27.260 eight years, and I've met too many victims of crime.

00:21:29.460 I've spent too much time with bereaved families.

00:21:31.380 It's heartbreaking.

00:21:31.940 And what I'm clear about is, what are the complex causes of crime?

00:21:36.960 Not excusing it.

00:21:37.680 What are the causes of crime?

00:21:39.560 Deprivation, poverty, alienation, lack of opportunity.

00:21:43.120 And they've got worse over the last 14 years because of government cuts.

00:21:47.120 So we've got to be tough on the complex causes of crime.

00:21:49.540 Invest in young people.

00:21:50.540 Invest in youth clubs.

00:21:51.460 Invest in after-school clubs.

00:21:53.280 Do you know what the other cause of crime is?

00:21:54.540 Getting a big knife and putting it in someone else.

00:21:56.920 It's just not enough youth clubs, mate.

00:21:58.100 You know, it's not always the poverty.

00:22:00.260 Sometimes it's the big knife.

00:22:01.500 Yeah.

00:22:02.220 Sometimes it's the knife's fault.

00:22:03.940 Yeah.

00:22:04.600 Sometimes it's the urge to pick up knives and stab people, even.

00:22:07.840 Yeah, but if they just had some community centers, this wouldn't happen.

00:22:11.420 You heard the man.

00:22:12.000 I mean, even with the sort of school meal stuff and the community centers and all the stuff,

00:22:16.940 all of that, you know that the contracts for these things are going to go to entities

00:22:21.400 that Sadiq Khan looks favorably upon.

00:22:24.480 And you know that this is going to involve a huge amount of corruption.

00:22:28.100 Some of it we will learn about.

00:22:30.240 Some of it we will never learn about.

00:22:31.880 And that it is going to benefit people who either agree with him ideologically or religiously

00:22:36.920 or his ethnic kin, which is pretty much the same thing.

00:22:40.260 So you know that this is a redistribution game.

00:22:43.720 So there is an interest, as far as he's concerned, in presenting this crime problem as being,

00:22:49.060 oh, it's just the circumstances.

00:22:50.740 It's just the socioeconomic factors.

00:22:52.340 It's got nothing to do with anything else.

00:22:54.840 Don't think about it this way.

00:22:56.060 And I thought that given that he wanted to talk about this kind of toughness on crime.

00:23:02.880 Yeah, go on.

00:23:03.860 And by the way, I went with knives because we're on YouTube.

00:23:05.420 I thought I'd tone it down from other things I could say.

00:23:07.500 But isn't there a contradiction between this leftist frame, right?

00:23:11.600 The idea of like, okay, it's poverty.

00:23:13.260 It's this.

00:23:13.620 It's that.

00:23:14.440 But what do the Muslims actually say about that?

00:23:16.680 Because I can imagine that they're not really big on that.

00:23:19.180 Surely in that kind of culture, there's an element of personal responsibility or pride or something.

00:23:24.160 No, no, it's about honor.

00:23:25.400 Honor, yeah.

00:23:26.260 So where does that go with, oh, I'm just poor?

00:23:28.220 That's leftism over Islam, surely. 1.00

00:23:30.880 It divides into two things.

00:23:32.240 So there's an old Islamic tradition that says that the penalty for thieving, which is to amputate the hands, was suspended in years where there was famine because the poor would steal food and that would be sort of tolerated.

00:23:45.640 But generally, there is definitely a very harsh view on crime in Muslim societies. 1.00

00:23:52.600 And it's very often enforced by the community itself.

00:23:56.200 Like the police would have to sort of struggle to get the thief out from the hands of the community before he gets murdered.

00:24:03.020 Yeah.

00:24:03.360 So it's crime in our country is a means to an end.

00:24:06.060 And once Sharia is there, will they end the crime? 1.00

00:24:08.820 I'm just wondering.

00:24:09.380 But hang on, hang on.

00:24:10.100 The thing is, we're thinking of crime as a universal abstract property, as in crime in a kind of like general law-like way.

00:24:21.260 If it's crimes from one community against another community.

00:24:25.760 That is permissible.

00:24:26.840 That's what I'm saying.

00:24:27.660 Then this is allowed because there are all kinds of interpretations by people close to Islamic State, which are not fully mainstream in Islamic thinking,

00:24:38.040 saying that, yeah, when you are in the land of the unbelievers, you get to do whatever you want. 0.90

00:24:42.900 Yes.

00:24:43.500 And you always see the argument that, no, it's the girls' fault that they got raped, regardless of age, regardless of the fact that they were drugged. 0.99

00:24:51.500 Like from the Muslim wives. 1.00

00:24:53.660 Exactly.

00:24:55.040 Including from the wives and daughters and the families.

00:24:56.940 Yes, absolutely.

00:24:58.000 So you see this mindset that says, no, no, no, some crimes are permitted.

00:25:01.920 So when he says we're going to focus on the causes of crime, one of the things implied in there is that I'm going to channel money to entities that are friendly to me in order to support my own community.

00:25:14.140 And I will address that up as being countering the causes of crime.

00:25:19.660 But then if you just look at the data, what it tells you is that, you know, the percentage of Muslims who are in jail has been pretty overrepresented, shall we say.

00:25:34.940 Well, I mean, we can see on the graph here, it's nearly three times the actual population.

00:25:38.680 Exactly.

00:25:39.840 Exactly.

00:25:40.620 Exactly.

00:25:41.700 And that's a theme that's repeated pretty much everywhere in Europe.

00:25:45.380 But also, no religion is a surprisingly underrepresented one as well, isn't it?

00:25:50.740 Yep.

00:25:51.200 You can see that 37% of the population, but only 31% of the actual criminals.

00:25:55.900 Yep.

00:25:56.660 Yep.

00:25:57.460 So it's basically because the no religion types tend to be, you know, mid-class.

00:26:04.460 Yeah, atheists. 0.97

00:26:05.280 So this tells you that really the growth of the Muslim population has led to an even higher proportion of Muslims being in jail. 1.00

00:26:18.040 So it's not really worked, but this redistribution effort is ongoing.

00:26:22.320 So when Reuters says that, no, they're fact-tracking this, and that, no, Sadiq Khan didn't say that he was going to build 40,000 homes only for Muslims, what he said is considerably worse.

00:26:35.640 He's admitted that there are ethnic and religious differences.

00:26:38.800 He's admitted that Muslims in Britain don't feel a sense of belonging.

00:26:42.780 He's admitted that there's a real problem with crime with minority communities.

00:26:46.900 He's admitted pretty much every talking point of the right, but he's dressed it up in a particular way to say, you should support my redistribution agenda that favors my own community.

00:27:00.460 So this is the actual fact-check on what Sadiq Khan said.

00:27:04.460 It's not, oh, he's just going to give away houses to Muslims.

00:27:08.080 It's actually considerably worse.

00:27:10.200 Muslims want to form their own enclaves. 1.00

00:27:12.320 They want to live separately.

00:27:13.740 They want their own identity.

00:27:15.100 They want to assert that identity in Britain.

00:27:17.880 That's what Sadiq Khan actually said.

00:27:19.500 Sadiq Khan is going to facilitate that.

00:27:21.240 And his role is to help that as much as he can.

00:27:23.820 Yes.

00:27:25.400 All right.

00:27:26.180 Let's get some soup chats.

00:27:27.940 Praise our dictator, Kier Muslim in me.

00:27:31.720 Context, U.S. only fortunately has approximately 1% Muslims. 1.00

00:27:35.460 Yeah, but they're already congregating in certain given areas, aren't they?

00:27:38.700 So Detroit is sort of gone.

00:27:40.620 Well, yeah, but that was gone because...

00:27:41.980 Minneapolis was gone.

00:27:43.020 It's Minneapolis that's the real thing.

00:27:44.000 Yes.

00:27:44.200 Yeah, there are a bunch of other places.

00:27:45.920 But who is gayest, Starmer, Macron, or Albanese? 0.98

00:27:49.560 Probably Macron, I'd say.

00:27:51.980 I'd go with Macron. 0.96

00:27:52.960 Yeah, I'd say Macron's the gayest because of his intrinsic Frenchness. 0.96

00:27:57.180 Hello, friends. 0.96

00:27:57.860 Thanks to you.

00:27:58.320 I'm for the first time in my adult life considering joining a political party and currently looking

00:28:01.340 on how to join the AFD.

00:28:02.900 Well, good on you.

00:28:04.880 Drunk Changeling says, excite for the lads hour.

00:28:06.720 How many letters after the N can you say?

00:28:08.720 Not that many, actually.

00:28:10.200 Not as many as I was expecting, I'll be honest.

00:28:13.680 But I get a couple, so, you know.

00:28:17.520 Unlike James McMurdoch, I wouldn't get in trouble for it.

00:28:21.100 Maybe if they can't feed their own kids, they shouldn't be having so many of them. 0.73

00:28:23.460 But, again, that assumes, like, goodwill and good faith interface with the system.

00:28:30.500 That's not what this is about.

00:28:32.360 Can you do a roundtable on the Starmer bunker?

00:28:35.840 Yes, we can.

00:28:37.420 London is what happens when you allow the state to be used as an instrument of plunder.

00:28:40.540 Well, I mean, the state will be used as an instrument of plunder in a multi-ethnic environment. 1.00

00:28:45.320 That's just...

00:28:45.980 Yeah, exactly.

00:28:46.640 It's literally always what happens.

00:28:48.100 That's exactly the segment that I did on Monday, by the way.

00:28:50.360 Yeah, because...

00:28:51.120 Diversity means that the state is an instrument of plunder for different communities. 0.56

00:28:53.940 Yeah, so you have to control the state, frankly.

00:28:55.980 Yeah.

00:28:56.300 Anyway, let's move on, because I think the era of multiculturalism is actually coming to an end, 0.99

00:29:01.400 because something...

00:29:03.460 And when Nigel Farage is like, well, something's happening out there, it's like, yeah, Nigel,

00:29:06.100 you're going to repudiate it.

00:29:08.500 You are going to distance yourself from it.

00:29:09.940 You're going to be like, no, no, I don't agree with what's happening when you figure out what it is.

00:29:14.540 But anyway, go for now, and go and get your copy of Islander while you still can.

00:29:18.200 It's not going to be on sale for much longer, and don't have to pay eBay prices for it,

00:29:23.260 which are like hundreds of pounds.

00:29:24.680 You can get it for 15 quid, or whatever your local currency is, and I recommend you do.

00:29:28.040 Anyway, right.

00:29:28.840 So, today...

00:29:31.440 I think it was yesterday, actually.

00:29:32.720 Let me just check.

00:29:33.360 Yeah, it was yesterday.

00:29:34.880 It was the 1,100th anniversary of King Æthelstan's coronation in Kingston Town.

00:29:41.900 Now, you'll know all about King Æthelstan, won't you, Nick?

00:29:44.540 Not as much as you, I must admit.

00:29:46.660 I mean, it's not my era, but I've got a bow in here.

00:29:49.780 Yeah.

00:29:50.660 You've got to just give me the right books, and I'll read them,

00:29:52.920 but I'm not as good on ancient history as you guys.

00:29:55.880 You know Æthelstan.

00:29:56.840 That's right.

00:29:57.220 So, Æthelstan is the grandson of King Alfred.

00:30:00.020 King Alfred expands the kingdom of Wessex to a bit about half of England,

00:30:05.200 and it's Æthelstan, his grandson, who conquers the rest of it

00:30:07.680 and first becomes the king of all of the English.

00:30:11.200 And so he is truly the first king of England.

00:30:13.760 And it was his coronation anniversary yesterday,

00:30:17.740 which is very based and very cool, and I like it a lot.

00:30:22.020 And slightly surprising that Tom Holland would be at something so based.

00:30:25.320 He's a bit of a lib.

00:30:26.340 Well, that's the thing.

00:30:27.260 Tom Holland's like a lib dem, right?

00:30:28.960 And I keep telling people, lib dems don't actually hate the country.

00:30:31.340 They just want to be well thought of at their dinner parties.

00:30:34.320 Yeah.

00:30:35.120 Fundamentally.

00:30:35.480 But he was the guy that said that covering up the rape gangs had good intentions behind it.

00:30:40.800 That's because he's a lib.

00:30:41.820 Yeah.

00:30:42.300 And he was like, well, it's all about the intentions, right?

00:30:44.500 But anyway, so you had that.

00:30:46.280 And it's interesting how if you were to ask King Æthelstan now,

00:30:50.620 what do you think of your kingdom, my lord?

00:30:52.940 He'd be like, why is it full of heathens and barbarians? 1.00

00:30:58.100 I spent my entire life crushing and driving out pagans and barbarians. 0.71

00:31:03.260 And supporting the Catholic Church. 0.54

00:31:05.800 And why are they here?

00:31:07.460 And that's a great question.

00:31:08.660 I mean, you can see just...

00:31:10.620 Just look at this by the bins.

00:31:12.760 It's absolutely dire.

00:31:14.860 Nappies.

00:31:15.420 Just look at this.

00:31:16.160 What are the mothers who are doing this? 1.00

00:31:18.260 Do you have no shame?

00:31:20.180 Look at that.

00:31:24.140 I can't help but notice the ethnic composition of the people.

00:31:26.640 Yes.

00:31:26.900 That's horrific.

00:31:27.560 This is an area in London, of course.

00:31:29.040 Worst thing I've ever seen.

00:31:30.960 Yeah.

00:31:31.840 That's why I'm going.

00:31:32.540 I hadn't watched that properly on the train.

00:31:34.940 That is horrific.

00:31:36.240 Yeah, it's pretty gross.

00:31:37.940 I hate littering so much.

00:31:39.280 Never mind nappies.

00:31:40.300 I hate any littering.

00:31:41.140 Any littering to me is like death penalty.

00:31:43.840 But then nappies or whatever. 1.00

00:31:46.020 Disgusting. 1.00

00:31:47.260 Disgusting. 1.00

00:31:48.360 And so that's just, you know, 0.96

00:31:51.360 small examples of just how England is...

00:31:55.200 Large areas of England are currently occupied

00:31:57.180 in ways that are just infuriating to watch.

00:32:00.140 Here's the Muslim Defence League.

00:32:01.700 Are you radicalised yet?

00:32:17.600 I mean, it's just, it's like 300 or something,

00:32:20.700 but it's Muslims, you know what I mean?

00:32:22.140 It's just, that's not like a standing army.

00:32:24.680 I don't know what is.

00:32:25.360 It's like the Persians coming over the hill, isn't it? 1.00

00:32:28.640 Yeah, it's an army in waiting.

00:32:30.200 Yeah, and they know it.

00:32:31.500 And this is the thing.

00:32:32.300 They have this kind of thematic claim

00:32:34.860 where they view themselves as a group primarily

00:32:37.440 and they think, right, we're stamping our territory

00:32:39.900 by marching down in what is essentially

00:32:43.000 a kind of militarised way.

00:32:43.900 This is from the Southport riots

00:32:45.560 and the reaction from the Muslim community

00:32:47.020 to the Southport riots.

00:32:48.420 And so it ends up looking like

00:32:51.040 we're basically a colonised country

00:32:52.480 because, of course, we put up foreign signs

00:32:55.280 and we accept that large swathes of the country

00:32:58.260 just don't have English people in now.

00:33:00.760 And so you can understand

00:33:02.460 that that sort of collective sense

00:33:04.540 of belonging and identity and dominion

00:33:07.280 of the English people over England

00:33:09.500 is being attacked by the sort of settler colonialism

00:33:13.160 that mass immigration has turned into.

00:33:14.920 I used to live next to Whitechapel

00:33:17.020 to atone for my sins, I suppose.

00:33:19.840 Yep.

00:33:20.580 Just walking down the markets

00:33:22.540 with all of the burkas there.

00:33:23.700 Oh, yeah.

00:33:24.900 Just absolutely horrific.

00:33:26.180 One time I was sick at home on a Friday

00:33:28.720 and somebody knocks on my door.

00:33:32.300 Yes?

00:33:33.020 Are you Muslim?

00:33:33.880 What? 0.96

00:33:34.600 If you're Muslim, you need to go to the mosque now. 1.00

00:33:38.460 Just Friday noon.

00:33:39.780 It's like a mosque militia going around. 0.99

00:33:41.740 So just sort of, they view it as doing good works

00:33:44.820 by reminding people of their duty to go to mosque.

00:33:48.120 Yes.

00:33:48.660 And it's a way of enforcing community cohesion.

00:33:50.860 I mean, in Lebanon, back in the day,

00:33:53.060 if you miss church on a Sunday,

00:33:54.500 everybody knew and would check up on you

00:33:55.920 and make sure that you were all right.

00:33:58.060 But this is slightly different

00:33:59.080 in the sense that this is preemptive enforcement

00:34:01.580 to make sure that you comply

00:34:05.100 with the community's wishes.

00:34:06.500 And that's how you get to mass vote, essentially.

00:34:10.480 And that's how you get these gangs.

00:34:11.580 I'm also in the wrong country.

00:34:12.480 If there was someone knocking saying,

00:34:13.540 have you gone to church today?

00:34:14.640 I'd be like, oh, no, thank you.

00:34:17.040 I'd be all right with that.

00:34:18.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:18.440 That's a good idea.

00:34:19.560 But anyway, so you can see why people are feeling

00:34:23.320 that their country is getting away from them

00:34:25.080 and that actually foreign peoples

00:34:26.880 who have their own countries that they could go back to

00:34:29.260 are, in fact, taking over areas of ours.

00:34:32.340 And then you get the police, who are, of course, on their side.

00:34:34.880 Here's a UK officer telling a man

00:34:37.220 that asking people to speak English

00:34:39.640 might qualify as a hate crime, which is great. 0.99

00:34:42.060 I've been doing some conversations between you.

00:34:45.720 You have alleged, we weren't here,

00:34:48.300 so I don't know you've said it,

00:34:49.540 but you've alleged to say, speak English?

00:34:52.220 Or what's that effect?

00:34:53.080 Speak clearly.

00:34:54.000 Speak clearly.

00:34:55.000 No, the gentleman's passed on the desk.

00:34:57.760 Yeah, he can't speak clearly.

00:34:59.020 Yeah.

00:34:59.340 So I couldn't even hear him.

00:35:01.640 No, and that's fine.

00:35:02.680 And that's why we've just come to speak,

00:35:03.840 because potentially someone could perceive that as a hate crime.

00:35:10.040 Speak English in England?

00:35:11.480 Well, that could be a hate crime

00:35:12.540 because the police are here to defend the new immigrants 1.00

00:35:15.640 rather than the opposite.

00:35:16.880 I mean, if they came up to you and said,

00:35:18.280 speak Urdu or Bangladesh or whatever it is they speak

00:35:20.680 that was on the signs,

00:35:21.800 that would never be considered a hate crime.

00:35:23.440 No.

00:35:23.680 Nobody would even think about it.

00:35:25.280 Potentially perceive it.

00:35:26.340 It's like anyone could potentially perceive anything as anything.

00:35:29.200 These policemen have to really look in the mirror

00:35:30.820 and say, is this what I want to do with my life?

00:35:32.440 Yeah.

00:35:32.580 And so, of course, this means that the natives are feeling rather dispossessed.

00:35:37.160 Here's a chap who was trying to get a job on just a building site,

00:35:40.420 and he was just like, there were just no English people around.

00:35:42.580 And so he doesn't fit in.

00:35:45.160 And then you get this from the Times.

00:35:47.220 This was a couple of days ago.

00:35:48.820 I'm just going to read a quick quote from this,

00:35:50.460 because this is just, it's insufferable.

00:35:54.140 And it just, it really is driving me mad.

00:35:57.240 Quote,

00:35:57.520 My friend's department recently housed a charming East African asylum seeker

00:36:01.480 who had been given leave to remain,

00:36:03.000 providing him with a newly refurbished studio on a quiet street line,

00:36:05.940 a tree-lined street.

00:36:07.040 This is in London.

00:36:08.600 But then he brought over his wife and multiple children

00:36:10.560 through the refugee family reunion route.

00:36:12.820 Other tenants in the block of flats complained about the noise.

00:36:15.620 The family had trouble fitting into one bedsit,

00:36:17.900 but the council could not throw them out at such short notice

00:36:20.340 it had to provide them with a four-bedroom house. 0.97

00:36:24.240 The man had...

00:36:24.800 A four-bedroom house in London.

00:36:26.320 Millions.

00:36:26.580 We're an asylum seeker.

00:36:27.860 Millions we are spending on this, right?

00:36:30.000 The man has no job.

00:36:31.300 He's living on universal credit.

00:36:32.920 No one in the family can speak any English.

00:36:34.880 The children need schools.

00:36:36.160 The wife needs medical attention. 1.00

00:36:37.620 The council has a duty of care.

00:36:39.220 So they went to the top of the housing list,

00:36:40.920 bypassing 2,000 locals.

00:36:44.120 Like, if this isn't making your inner gammon rage

00:36:48.460 at the injustice of this,

00:36:50.180 I don't know what will.

00:36:51.420 And what's worse is when they just come out and say,

00:36:54.140 yeah, this was always the plan, right?

00:36:56.180 You might be like, who's John McTernan?

00:36:58.000 Well, let's have a look at his bio and find out, shall we?

00:36:59.540 Former advisor to Blair, yeah.

00:37:00.900 Yeah.

00:37:01.520 Strategist and commentator,

00:37:02.780 formerly Tony Blair's political secretary,

00:37:05.120 and Julia Gillard's comms director,

00:37:06.460 number two PR influence index.

00:37:08.360 Right.

00:37:08.640 So when Migration Watch posts the white British 0.97

00:37:13.080 as an English population of London,

00:37:14.900 and they point out that in some boroughs it's down to less than 20%,

00:37:18.340 it's bloody 15% there, right?

00:37:22.240 And John's like, a better London has been created.

00:37:27.480 Yeah.

00:37:28.100 It's an incredible tweet.

00:37:28.860 I've shared it myself.

00:37:30.200 And he was on Newsnight recently saying he's not in favour of the flags. 0.99

00:37:33.100 It's like, really, the guy that wants white people obliterated from London, 0.99

00:37:36.880 I'm shocked. 0.99

00:37:37.600 It's the worst thing I've seen since the clip.

00:37:39.000 He's Irish, by the way.

00:37:39.920 Oh, yeah.

00:37:40.380 Since the clip where Trigonometry nod along with Bill Maher,

00:37:43.440 this is the worst thing.

00:37:45.000 Yeah.

00:37:45.540 And so it's just one of those things where it's like, right, okay,

00:37:48.920 we can see the full scope of the system coming into view.

00:37:51.800 Yes.

00:37:52.000 The point, as John tells us, was to really rub our noses in diversity

00:37:56.240 and simply ethnically replace us in our own capital,

00:37:59.040 in our own biggest cities.

00:38:00.400 And now you hear them talking about the Shires over and over and over.

00:38:03.660 Yeah.

00:38:03.760 And this is becoming very evident to everyone.

00:38:07.380 The old lies, the old magic spells don't work anymore.

00:38:11.680 And they've realised that, oh, they're summoning up Gammonzilla.

00:38:15.840 Now, this is great.

00:38:17.460 Mary Harrington coined this.

00:38:18.740 And I think this is one of those genuinely insightful meme moments

00:38:23.400 where it just captures exactly something that is coming into being.

00:38:27.340 Where, as she says,

00:38:28.800 the governing classes still think about the English masters

00:38:30.580 as a terrifying giant subterranean Gammonzilla

00:38:32.840 that must be prevented at all costs from erupting.

00:38:35.640 Yes, that's correct.

00:38:37.540 And that's exactly what they're trying to do.

00:38:39.380 But that's exactly what's coming.

00:38:41.460 Yeah.

00:38:41.620 Because, and I think this can't...

00:38:42.720 They're willing it into being.

00:38:44.040 They're willing it into being.

00:38:45.080 Because this...

00:38:46.000 They've summoned him.

00:38:47.300 Exactly.

00:38:47.700 By accident.

00:38:48.240 And Gammonzilla is just the English version

00:38:51.220 of these pricks on the street, right?

00:38:54.540 That's Muslimzilla right now. 1.00

00:38:57.020 Like, angry young men who are collective

00:38:59.660 and they understand themselves as exercising political power

00:39:02.560 and they will use violence.

00:39:04.220 Yes.

00:39:04.480 And they're like, okay, well,

00:39:05.380 we don't want Gammonzilla coming into being.

00:39:06.960 It's like, right, so the other one's fine

00:39:08.060 because the other one is one of their client groups.

00:39:10.020 Yes.

00:39:10.380 Gammonzilla is actually still three quarters

00:39:12.740 of the population of this country.

00:39:14.780 Yep.

00:39:15.000 And actually, if Gammonzilla starts stirring,

00:39:18.340 if Gammonzilla wakes and raises his head,

00:39:22.040 well, that's an unbelievable amount of people

00:39:25.240 who will be suddenly against the system.

00:39:28.240 Yeah.

00:39:28.380 And the core difference with Gammonzilla,

00:39:29.820 or one key difference,

00:39:30.840 is that you're allowed to do a kind of,

00:39:32.580 what would be a sort of racist cartoon of him.

00:39:35.120 They've got all sorts of reasons, you know.

00:39:37.340 Yeah.

00:39:38.100 And not only that,

00:39:39.180 they've got all sorts of containment mechanisms,

00:39:40.800 but I think that these are failing at this point

00:39:42.780 and I think they know they're failing.

00:39:44.280 Yeah.

00:39:44.840 Did they actually say hate on his fist as well?

00:39:46.540 I mean, that's incredible.

00:39:47.260 Yeah.

00:39:47.680 It does.

00:39:48.180 And you notice the, he's got a little...

00:39:49.460 Jimmy, the other one says love,

00:39:50.440 but we don't see that one.

00:39:51.240 Yeah, we don't get to see that one.

00:39:53.180 But this, this Gammonzilla has been,

00:39:55.540 yeah, okay, you know, good point.

00:39:57.300 Gammonzilla might arise as a giant pink ogre 0.87

00:40:00.560 to eat you.

00:40:01.620 He may well find himself stomping through the Houses of Parliament,

00:40:05.420 smashing everything in his path.

00:40:07.780 Yep.

00:40:07.940 It's actually a wonderful, wonderful meme.

00:40:10.780 Do they have hate on both hands?

00:40:12.500 He does have hate on both hands.

00:40:13.880 Socks look a little bit urban to me, that style.

00:40:16.180 I don't think you'd have the socks like that.

00:40:17.920 But the point is...

00:40:19.400 That's very Mexican. 0.99

00:40:20.320 They're aware that Gammonzilla has the power to do this

00:40:23.340 because whether they like it or not,

00:40:24.720 the power of selection is still in the hands of the general public.

00:40:28.140 And if Gammonzilla decides he's going to vote

00:40:30.140 for something really far right, then he will.

00:40:32.620 And, of course, you've got Angela Rayner gone today,

00:40:35.900 which is superb.

00:40:37.560 Gammonzilla out stomping.

00:40:41.480 It's a popular meme, and I like it a lot.

00:40:44.360 It's drawn forth first blood.

00:40:45.740 And so there is the containment method.

00:40:47.600 In the wake of the raise the flag discourse,

00:40:50.620 you've got Keir Stomping like,

00:40:51.780 well, I mean, I have flags everywhere,

00:40:54.080 but using our flag to divide devalues it.

00:40:56.260 It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:40:58.160 It's the recognition of the flag.

00:40:59.480 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:00.460 That's Luke's point.

00:41:01.480 That's what a flag is for.

00:41:03.060 But the thing is,

00:41:03.920 the England flag has always been

00:41:05.080 the sort of black sheep of the national flags

00:41:07.220 because they know the England flag represents Gammonzilla.

00:41:11.620 And it always has, and it always will.

00:41:13.600 And they'll never be able to take it.

00:41:14.860 No matter what Yvette Cooper says in Parliament, 0.94

00:41:17.020 where she's like,

00:41:17.960 oh, well, we should wave the St. George's flag with pride

00:41:21.320 because it represents our values of togetherness,

00:41:24.440 fairness, and decent.

00:41:25.220 No, it doesn't.

00:41:25.800 No, it really doesn't.

00:41:27.920 Which is why you don't like the England flag

00:41:30.980 in every other context.

00:41:32.800 It doesn't represent values at all.

00:41:35.500 It represents the kind of deep primordial

00:41:38.760 sort of groupishness of the English working class.

00:41:43.340 Identity.

00:41:43.620 It represents a specific identity,

00:41:45.680 a specific people, a specific community.

00:41:48.080 And their claim to this land.

00:41:49.500 That have been together for a thousand years.

00:41:51.560 1,100 years.

00:41:53.420 Exactly.

00:41:53.980 And their claim to this land.

00:41:55.200 That's the thing that it all was hinged on.

00:41:57.340 England belongs to the Gammons. 1.00

00:41:59.280 That's what the English flag means.

00:42:01.080 And that's why they're putting it up.

00:42:02.700 And, you know, God willing, you know, it'll carry on.

00:42:05.380 And so you have the lib class talking about this

00:42:11.180 on BBC Newsnight.

00:42:12.460 And I think we'll watch a couple of clips of this

00:42:14.020 because it's just fascinating.

00:42:15.340 I think you guys will really get a lot out of it.

00:42:17.120 So watch this first one.

00:42:18.200 I mean, that's the great thing.

00:42:19.460 It's all about context.

00:42:20.640 You know, the people who've been putting these flags up,

00:42:23.200 we haven't really heard from them.

00:42:24.440 They haven't said what their motivations are.

00:42:26.660 When you hear...

00:42:29.380 Go on. 0.97

00:42:32.440 They have a f***ing talk show. 0.97

00:42:34.340 We haven't really heard from the people 0.98

00:42:36.440 putting up these flags.

00:42:37.240 Then invite them on.

00:42:38.740 Ask them.

00:42:39.100 Like, you literally are the BBC.

00:42:41.420 This is Newsnight.

00:42:42.560 You are supposed to therefore talk to the people

00:42:45.300 who are putting up the flags.

00:42:46.380 But like he says, we haven't heard from these people.

00:42:48.060 Why not?

00:42:48.400 Because we're keeping them out.

00:42:49.960 We're making sure their voices won't be heard.

00:42:51.980 And so, okay, I'm sure this is going to placate Gammonzilla.

00:42:54.640 I'm sure Gammonzilla is going to be like,

00:42:55.700 oh, yeah, I feel really included here.

00:42:57.580 Yep.

00:42:58.120 But this, I just couldn't get over it.

00:42:59.960 So we just don't hear them.

00:43:01.220 And they're like, oh, we're not racist, mate.

00:43:02.460 You know, it's not really that they are racist.

00:43:04.980 What they are doing is just staking a claim

00:43:06.940 to something that is theirs.

00:43:08.960 Hear them saying, they're always saying,

00:43:10.240 oh, I'm not racist, mate.

00:43:11.500 Now, those people who were in the mall

00:43:13.120 when the women brought the European Championships home, 0.99

00:43:15.420 thousands of people waving the flag of St George,

00:43:17.540 not one of them needed to or felt the urge to say,

00:43:20.480 oh, by the way, I'm not a racist.

00:43:21.640 Because in that context, it's celebrating our unity.

00:43:24.520 And unfortunately, the flags on the lampposts,

00:43:27.300 because they're not saying what they're about,

00:43:28.760 the implication is that they're more divisive.

00:43:30.720 And I personally object to the flag of my country

00:43:33.700 being used to intimidate my neighbours.

00:43:35.280 And that's why I'm so patriotic about it.

00:43:37.580 I mean, I think...

00:43:39.300 Did he say patriotic?

00:43:41.020 He did at the end, yeah.

00:43:42.200 It's just a lie.

00:43:43.180 I mean, it's a commie lie.

00:43:44.040 Is that what he actually said?

00:43:45.240 Yeah.

00:43:46.520 He's...

00:43:47.080 He's talking about hating the flag.

00:43:48.460 But notice how he's framing it.

00:43:51.120 When we are in control of the discourse,

00:43:54.640 the flag means inclusivity and diversity.

00:43:58.460 But when you just put up the England flag

00:44:00.300 without our context being applied to it,

00:44:02.880 intimidation, hate, division,

00:44:04.940 because they can claim all they want,

00:44:07.440 but they know that's not what the England flag...

00:44:09.420 The England flag stands for the gammons. 0.52

00:44:11.820 Did he find the Muslim Defence League intimidating?

00:44:15.200 Apparently they didn't.

00:44:16.060 Did he find the sort of speeches

00:44:19.020 that come out of the East London mosque intimidating? 0.98

00:44:21.120 Weirdly, not much to say on it.

00:44:22.800 I mean, if you listen to what the Muslim community

00:44:25.780 actually believes,

00:44:26.940 and you're a liberal,

00:44:28.140 and you're not intimidated, 1.00

00:44:29.480 it's because you're mentally retarded. 1.00

00:44:31.260 Yes, you think that it's just never going to happen. 1.00

00:44:33.640 But these things do happen.

00:44:35.100 They are happening.

00:44:36.260 Anyway, we'll carry on with news sites,

00:44:38.480 because they do love England, you know.

00:44:41.280 They love England.

00:44:42.360 I'm sure.

00:44:42.880 When it's diverse and multicultural, 0.50

00:44:44.640 and with as few gammons in it as possible.

00:44:47.160 Can I just revel in the love of England?

00:44:49.560 Yeah, sure.

00:44:49.740 Because I don't want viewers to think

00:44:50.960 we're not going to love England.

00:44:51.820 No, we do.

00:44:52.700 We do love England.

00:44:53.880 Sorry, just to pause there.

00:44:55.620 So we've been dumping on you for half an hour now,

00:44:58.540 but we don't want you to think that we don't love England.

00:45:00.560 We, of course, do love England.

00:45:01.600 It's like, look, you wouldn't need to say that

00:45:03.380 if that wasn't implicit.

00:45:05.120 His own logic applies.

00:45:06.560 Like, the whole thing,

00:45:07.640 mate, I'm not racist.

00:45:09.120 He did the exact same thing.

00:45:11.020 He did the exact same thing.

00:45:12.620 Actually, I do.

00:45:13.260 For broadcasting partiality,

00:45:14.720 can we go to the same guest,

00:45:16.200 but now make him give the opposite view half-heartedly?

00:45:18.700 Yes.

00:45:19.720 Yeah, and we didn't hear from the gammons, though,

00:45:22.220 putting up the flags.

00:45:23.000 Well, why not?

00:45:23.600 You know, you've got every opportunity.

00:45:25.140 Whenever you listen to Billy Bragg,

00:45:26.000 you've got to realise he's a proper communist.

00:45:27.440 Oh, he's good.

00:45:27.720 He's listening to his songs.

00:45:28.680 Even, like, something like Between the Wars,

00:45:30.800 quite good as a song.

00:45:32.120 But you listen to it, you're like,

00:45:32.780 oh, yeah, he's a full-on communist subversion.

00:45:34.920 This is what he is.

00:45:36.240 So he's not, you know,

00:45:37.600 it's not some liberal or something like that.

00:45:38.840 He's a full-on commie.

00:45:40.600 Isn't that great?

00:45:41.240 We got on Ed Balls, a liberal,

00:45:43.100 and then a communist to discuss English patriotism.

00:45:45.960 Yes, which, by the way,

00:45:46.900 is what the mainstream thinks is the range of opinion.

00:45:49.300 Yes.

00:45:49.620 On the Daily Tea Telegraph podcast,

00:45:51.980 which is meant to be, like, the right-wing paper,

00:45:53.580 they had Ash Sarko on,

00:45:54.880 gave her a very, sort of, like, friendly interview

00:45:56.580 about why she's a communist. 0.99

00:45:58.040 This was Tim Stanley.

00:45:59.360 So we all know they would never have

00:46:00.520 the other version of an ist

00:46:02.900 that's on the other side, right?

00:46:04.220 So it's like they think the range goes

00:46:05.900 from, sort of, wet Tory to communist.

00:46:08.600 That's the acceptable range,

00:46:10.280 even at the Telegraph.

00:46:11.240 But the thing is,

00:46:12.020 the great thing about this is

00:46:13.340 they must feel themselves on a shrinking boat

00:46:15.320 in stormy seas,

00:46:17.220 because the fact that they're even discussing this,

00:46:19.260 the fact that they're like,

00:46:20.000 oh, yeah, no, actually,

00:46:20.740 we do love England, guys.

00:46:21.960 Here's our little England flag in the background.

00:46:23.600 Can you imagine that five years ago?

00:46:25.060 The boat gets tipped over.

00:46:26.240 It's Gammonzilla.

00:46:27.100 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:27.560 Coming out of the sea.

00:46:28.500 Yeah, literally,

00:46:29.200 going out of the sea.

00:46:30.180 But the thing is,

00:46:30.900 they can feel him moving under the boat.

00:46:32.860 Yeah.

00:46:33.120 You know, that's why they're even having

00:46:34.640 this conversation in the first place.

00:46:35.940 They're like, okay,

00:46:36.780 we're not going to get capsized

00:46:38.040 by Gammonzilla, are we?

00:46:39.060 It's like, maybe you are, actually.

00:46:40.400 Let's listen a bit more.

00:46:41.620 The things I love about England,

00:46:42.960 Marmite.

00:46:44.420 There's nowhere else in the world.

00:46:45.420 I've been all over the world

00:46:46.220 because of that job.

00:46:47.300 No one has anything that can touch Marmite.

00:46:49.200 But the problem is,

00:46:50.140 it's such a divisive issue.

00:46:51.840 You know, people...

00:46:52.960 I feel a metaphor coming on.

00:46:54.260 No, not really.

00:46:54.820 It's one of those things,

00:46:55.620 because when people sometimes ask you

00:46:56.940 to make a list of the things

00:46:58.300 that define Englishness,

00:46:59.540 which is, you know,

00:47:01.080 impossible to do,

00:47:02.080 because that would be top of my list.

00:47:03.360 But you did also reveal

00:47:04.940 a love of our folk tradition,

00:47:06.760 which many of us might have forgotten.

00:47:08.920 Yeah.

00:47:09.080 You tried to revive.

00:47:10.300 Well, no, I was kind of part of that

00:47:11.960 because of the minor strike.

00:47:13.120 You know, during the minor strike,

00:47:14.760 there were a lot of folk singers

00:47:15.640 whose, frankly,

00:47:16.680 music was more radical than mine.

00:47:18.700 And partly, I kind of...

00:47:20.200 I've come from that tradition.

00:47:21.860 Now, my moments in Englishness

00:47:24.560 that really inspire me

00:47:26.040 are the fact that we were

00:47:26.900 the first people to recognize

00:47:29.160 that no one is above the law

00:47:30.340 when we chopped off

00:47:31.000 the head of King Charles.

00:47:32.360 You know, we had the first

00:47:33.700 working-class movement in the world

00:47:35.260 in the Chartists.

00:47:36.440 I revel in the things

00:47:39.160 that we achieve

00:47:39.700 with our neighbours

00:47:40.740 in Scotland, Northern Ireland

00:47:41.940 and Wales,

00:47:42.540 the Battle of Britain,

00:47:43.360 the founding of the welfare state.

00:47:45.120 And, of course, 1966.

00:47:46.660 That's always got to be in there.

00:47:47.780 Yes, that was a football match.

00:47:49.120 It was indeed.

00:47:49.780 And are you telling me

00:47:50.840 that I can be of the left

00:47:52.360 and wave my flag

00:47:53.400 as proudly as from the right?

00:47:54.880 I do, because I think,

00:47:55.900 you know, my fellow travellers

00:47:57.320 on the left

00:47:57.780 will recognize

00:47:58.420 there are many types of socialism.

00:48:00.360 There are many types of patriotism.

00:48:02.120 There's a traditional patriotism

00:48:03.480 who believes in things

00:48:04.880 that are immutable

00:48:06.160 that never change.

00:48:07.080 I have to expect that he didn't say

00:48:07.440 national socialism.

00:48:08.540 He nearly did.

00:48:09.140 He one of those things.

00:48:09.940 The monarchy.

00:48:11.040 The army, perhaps.

00:48:12.660 Whereas my patriotism

00:48:13.600 is based in values.

00:48:14.840 The values that we,

00:48:16.040 as a society,

00:48:16.900 try to uphold compassion.

00:48:18.020 These are Lenin and others.

00:48:19.800 So, isn't that amazing?

00:48:21.160 So, he gives a really...

00:48:23.220 Oh, Marmite

00:48:24.060 is the thing he's most proud about.

00:48:26.320 Yeah, that was a joke

00:48:27.260 about being divisive.

00:48:28.260 I know, I know.

00:48:29.220 I'm going to let him off.

00:48:30.180 Sure, but, you know,

00:48:31.200 then he goes,

00:48:31.920 oh, you know,

00:48:32.420 Magna Carta,

00:48:33.180 the charters, whatever.

00:48:34.500 And it's like,

00:48:34.980 yeah, okay, that's fine.

00:48:36.420 Look at the first person plural.

00:48:37.640 That's what we did.

00:48:39.460 It's not what foreigners did. 1.00

00:48:40.700 It's not what any other people did.

00:48:42.120 No one else has a claim to this,

00:48:43.500 actually.

00:48:44.400 And his whole point of it,

00:48:45.920 oh, well, therefore,

00:48:47.060 being English is a set of values.

00:48:48.240 It's like, no.

00:48:50.040 Being English is a continual, 1.00

00:48:52.320 ethnically inherited ethnicity

00:48:54.260 with a history that you are part of,

00:48:57.280 whether you like it or not.

00:48:58.100 And the values he adheres to

00:48:59.320 are leftist values,

00:49:00.140 which would be a total imposition on England.

00:49:02.280 They're not at all English. 0.91

00:49:03.560 He's just saying,

00:49:04.400 and I'm English,

00:49:04.980 and they're the values.

00:49:05.800 Like, you follow a completely different,

00:49:07.220 an ideological top-down set of values

00:49:08.920 that are completely separate from this.

00:49:10.400 And you're a communist, so.

00:49:11.500 That's what I mean.

00:49:12.020 Exactly.

00:49:13.680 And so you've got this,

00:49:17.020 this is the kind of,

00:49:18.060 so there is this kind of left-wing approved

00:49:19.940 narrative of England,

00:49:21.940 which there's a twist record

00:49:23.960 called English Radical History

00:49:25.200 that you can find the left-wing approved

00:49:27.580 narrative of England.

00:49:29.180 Because it's just, you know,

00:49:30.400 here's a revolt against, you know,

00:49:32.400 King John or whatever.

00:49:33.440 And it goes through,

00:49:34.340 here's the Charlestes' revolts,

00:49:35.520 whatever, what, Tyler?

00:49:36.400 It's like, yeah, okay,

00:49:36.880 these things are all cool.

00:49:38.400 But like, there are other things about England

00:49:40.000 that actually also matter.

00:49:42.200 And one of those things

00:49:43.200 is having a continual country

00:49:46.880 that has been consistent

00:49:48.460 for a thousand plus years.

00:49:50.620 That's something the English 0.99

00:49:51.700 are very proud of, actually.

00:49:52.960 Oh yeah, by the way,

00:49:53.580 Enoch Powell said,

00:49:54.800 for the unbroken life of the English nation

00:49:56.340 over a thousand years and more

00:49:57.520 is a phenomenon unique in history.

00:49:59.700 There we go.

00:50:00.520 And that's what actually

00:50:01.760 we are carrying forward into the future.

00:50:03.560 But what I like about this politics Joe point,

00:50:05.360 I mean, look at that,

00:50:06.180 look at that top quote.

00:50:07.560 Majority opinion can be turned

00:50:08.880 against minority groups. 0.89

00:50:11.000 Oh, well, if we've got permission.

00:50:12.720 Firstly, there's an enormous amount

00:50:14.920 of minority privilege.

00:50:16.160 Yes.

00:50:16.640 And I've written about that

00:50:17.820 and it's sort of a huge thing.

00:50:20.800 Secondly, what's happening now

00:50:22.420 is that minority opinions

00:50:23.620 are being turned against the majority.

00:50:25.180 Yes.

00:50:26.260 And thirdly,

00:50:28.380 if you're a minority,

00:50:30.120 as someone from a minority

00:50:32.240 that survived in the mountains

00:50:33.320 for a thousand years,

00:50:34.360 you have to admit

00:50:35.900 what reality looks like.

00:50:37.280 Yes.

00:50:38.140 You can't be in open revolt

00:50:39.440 against the majority all the time

00:50:41.140 and expect zero consequences.

00:50:43.420 And this,

00:50:44.380 it's this,

00:50:45.260 these are the consequences

00:50:46.140 that she's worried about.

00:50:47.200 And she,

00:50:47.780 Zoe just gives the game away again. 0.60

00:50:50.440 She's worried,

00:50:51.220 but what if the majority

00:50:52.000 decide they've had enough

00:50:53.020 of the minorities

00:50:53.540 and just kick them out?

00:50:54.780 It's like,

00:50:55.400 yes,

00:50:55.620 they have the power

00:50:56.320 to do that actually.

00:50:57.720 And so this is what

00:50:58.440 the lib is trying to avoid.

00:51:00.140 The precious minorities

00:51:02.020 must be for some reason here

00:51:03.580 for as long as possible

00:51:04.560 forever.

00:51:05.580 And the thing is,

00:51:06.960 like I said,

00:51:07.600 this would be what

00:51:08.440 Gammonzilla would do as well.

00:51:09.700 Gammonzilla would just

00:51:10.460 stipulate an ethnic group 0.75

00:51:12.340 and eject them

00:51:13.280 like the ejection 0.98

00:51:14.580 of the Egyptians

00:51:15.200 back in the 16th century.

00:51:16.960 But the thing is,

00:51:18.220 the Gammonzilla

00:51:18.840 already agrees with this,

00:51:20.120 right?

00:51:20.900 So when asked,

00:51:22.660 admitting no more new migrants 1.00

00:51:23.960 and requiring large numbers

00:51:24.880 of migrants 0.99

00:51:25.300 who came to the UK

00:51:25.900 in recent years to leave,

00:51:28.300 40,

00:51:29.540 what was it?

00:51:30.140 Yeah,

00:51:30.320 42,

00:51:30.920 44% of people

00:51:32.120 are just completely on board.

00:51:34.320 Yeah,

00:51:34.620 and they say,

00:51:35.440 but what do they mean by that?

00:51:36.440 My idea is,

00:51:37.040 let's just start the deportations

00:51:38.360 and ask them exactly

00:51:39.060 what they meant later

00:51:39.760 because they're clearly on board.

00:51:41.240 We'll figure it out

00:51:41.680 as we go along.

00:51:41.940 And that's pretty radical.

00:51:42.640 Zero,

00:51:43.080 they want no more new migrants, 1.00

00:51:44.420 45%,

00:51:45.020 and they want them

00:51:46.060 to start leaving.

00:51:47.080 That's huge. 0.93

00:51:47.740 Farage looks like a wet leftist 0.89

00:51:49.280 to half of the country.

00:51:50.820 Yeah.

00:51:51.620 And again,

00:51:52.380 on the other side,

00:51:53.000 you've got quite a strong sentiment

00:51:54.500 where it's,

00:51:55.700 again,

00:51:56.140 about 44,

00:51:57.580 43%

00:51:58.420 who are like,

00:51:59.100 well,

00:51:59.200 no,

00:51:59.340 I don't really want that

00:52:00.140 or I'm strongly opposed to that.

00:52:01.120 But it's only 26%

00:52:02.260 who are actually strongly opposed.

00:52:03.900 So I suspect

00:52:04.820 the sort of somewhat opposed

00:52:06.020 will just consent by passivity.

00:52:09.320 And I'd say that a lot of the don't knows

00:52:11.500 are just being polite.

00:52:13.060 Being polite.

00:52:13.800 Like,

00:52:14.000 where's this data going?

00:52:15.060 Yeah,

00:52:15.340 exactly.

00:52:15.940 This isn't being collected

00:52:16.840 by the government,

00:52:17.540 is it?

00:52:18.340 And remember,

00:52:19.780 people are just

00:52:20.640 quite hard line on this,

00:52:22.520 but I think it's worth remembering

00:52:23.460 that people think

00:52:24.220 something like 70%

00:52:25.320 of immigration

00:52:26.020 is illegal immigration.

00:52:27.320 Yeah.

00:52:27.420 And in fact,

00:52:27.780 it's like 1%

00:52:28.660 of immigration.

00:52:29.880 Because if you remember

00:52:31.160 that people think,

00:52:31.780 oh yeah,

00:52:32.180 so all of the immigrants 0.58

00:52:33.120 I see around,

00:52:33.760 almost all of them

00:52:34.440 are illegal.

00:52:35.520 I want zero new immigrants 1.00

00:52:37.340 and I want large numbers

00:52:38.440 of them to go.

00:52:39.520 And I'm happy for them

00:52:40.660 to go in prison camps.

00:52:42.560 Yeah,

00:52:42.840 yeah,

00:52:43.020 52% are happy for that.

00:52:44.560 We've heard that number before.

00:52:45.880 They literally just look around

00:52:46.760 like,

00:52:47.000 no,

00:52:47.120 all of these people

00:52:47.820 should be in prison camps.

00:52:48.700 What are they doing here?

00:52:49.540 Yeah,

00:52:49.780 and if 52% was enough

00:52:51.100 to make a pretty big decision

00:52:52.280 about Europe,

00:52:53.120 I think it's enough

00:52:53.840 to put them in prison camps.

00:52:54.780 I'm just saying,

00:52:55.380 I'm a Democrat.

00:52:56.080 You only need 35%

00:52:58.400 to form a government,

00:52:59.200 you know what I mean?

00:52:59.840 Yeah.

00:53:00.080 This is Gammonzilla's

00:53:02.040 winning ticket right here.

00:53:04.040 This is the genuine

00:53:04.840 id of Gammonzilla speaking.

00:53:07.080 And they are right

00:53:07.940 to be afraid

00:53:08.380 because literally

00:53:09.120 when we get

00:53:09.980 a right-wing government

00:53:11.540 that says to Gammonzilla,

00:53:12.860 no,

00:53:13.060 we are going to do

00:53:13.660 exactly what you're asking for,

00:53:15.480 those people are going to win.

00:53:17.340 And they're going to win a lot.

00:53:18.540 And things are going to change

00:53:19.520 very quickly.

00:53:20.480 This is the thing

00:53:21.020 that I keep saying.

00:53:22.300 If you don't address

00:53:24.260 people's reasonable concerns

00:53:26.200 reasonably,

00:53:27.140 they will end up

00:53:28.140 being addressed unreasonably.

00:53:29.760 Yes, indeed.

00:53:30.600 And this is what

00:53:32.580 they're afraid of,

00:53:33.400 but this is also

00:53:34.160 what they're willing

00:53:34.720 into being.

00:53:35.540 Yep.

00:53:35.880 Yeah.

00:53:36.160 They're being so extreme

00:53:37.920 in their insane experiment

00:53:41.200 that the replacement

00:53:44.280 is going to be equally insane.

00:53:46.540 And they think

00:53:47.100 that they can finesse it

00:53:48.020 being like,

00:53:48.400 oh, well, yeah,

00:53:48.940 the St. George's flag

00:53:49.940 means tolerance

00:53:50.520 and inclusivity.

00:53:51.360 It's like,

00:53:51.900 ew.

00:53:52.420 It's just desperation talking.

00:53:54.020 That's just desperation.

00:53:54.740 It means the complete opposite

00:53:55.840 and everyone knows it,

00:53:57.060 which is why you sound so scared.

00:53:58.840 Yep.

00:53:59.220 Right.

00:54:00.220 The Times pissed me off

00:54:01.060 to the point

00:54:01.380 where I cancelled this week,

00:54:02.680 says Thomas.

00:54:03.680 Ian, sorry.

00:54:04.680 Being informed

00:54:05.380 and entertained

00:54:05.780 by your coverage

00:54:06.340 so much more.

00:54:07.020 So very happy to send

00:54:07.840 your way,

00:54:09.040 what they've been enjoying

00:54:09.960 over 10 years.

00:54:10.740 Well, thank you very much

00:54:11.360 and we're doing our very best.

00:54:14.320 I'm wondering

00:54:14.900 how many of these

00:54:15.460 diversification policies

00:54:16.400 were supported by the Queen

00:54:17.260 and other royals.

00:54:18.500 Well, who knows?

00:54:19.460 That's the thing.

00:54:20.520 Apparently Minneapolis

00:54:21.800 is only 3.5% Somali

00:54:23.480 and look how far

00:54:24.320 the Somalis have got 0.99

00:54:25.020 in Minneapolis.

00:54:25.860 Jesus.

00:54:26.720 Carl, could the UK government

00:54:27.620 utilize the military

00:54:28.720 in turning the UK

00:54:29.360 into a nationwide

00:54:29.900 Northern Ireland?

00:54:31.020 Could this be logistical

00:54:31.780 or even feasible?

00:54:32.560 Final card?

00:54:33.000 No, there's only 70,000 of them.

00:54:34.740 They know,

00:54:36.080 they know,

00:54:36.680 they absolutely know

00:54:37.640 that they do not have

00:54:38.740 the power,

00:54:39.420 the manpower

00:54:40.200 to restrain

00:54:41.180 open sectarian conflict.

00:54:43.860 Yeah.

00:54:43.920 That's why they're so desperate

00:54:44.800 to sort of finesse this

00:54:46.100 into the England flag

00:54:47.680 now being like the pride flag.

00:54:49.280 You know,

00:54:49.900 it's like,

00:54:50.180 sorry,

00:54:50.480 that's not happening, bro.

00:54:52.780 There are three stages of jihad.

00:54:54.240 Let's all get along.

00:54:54.940 We had to defend ourselves

00:54:55.820 and when the population

00:54:57.220 is large enough,

00:54:57.860 you will submit.

00:54:58.760 Correct.

00:54:59.100 Yeah,

00:54:59.480 it's something

00:55:01.560 that we've seen a few times.

00:55:02.600 How many people

00:55:04.660 will stop getting paid

00:55:05.400 or lose their job

00:55:05.980 if migration stops

00:55:06.840 and people are sent home?

00:55:08.020 The payments

00:55:08.360 to the establishment class

00:55:09.440 cause their resistance

00:55:10.280 to deportation

00:55:10.880 and repatriation.

00:55:11.940 Yeah,

00:55:12.080 I mean,

00:55:12.380 there'll be a huge,

00:55:13.760 like,

00:55:14.000 when we finally get

00:55:15.260 the great repeal bill,

00:55:16.800 like David Starkey

00:55:17.920 is in advocation for,

00:55:20.160 there'll be whole industries

00:55:21.240 of lefty lawyers,

00:55:22.960 of NGOs,

00:55:24.460 of,

00:55:25.080 you know,

00:55:25.440 They can stack

00:55:26.340 supermarket shelves

00:55:27.240 and they can work.

00:55:28.800 Because they'll be flogged

00:55:30.040 and sent to jail.

00:55:32.740 Those that escape

00:55:33.820 our wrath.

00:55:36.020 Yeah,

00:55:36.360 and drunk changely says,

00:55:37.460 when he stands

00:55:37.840 like an ox in the furrow

00:55:38.740 with his sun and set eyes

00:55:39.780 on your own

00:55:40.260 and grumbles,

00:55:41.100 this isn't fair dealing,

00:55:42.120 my son,

00:55:42.840 leave the Saxon alone.

00:55:44.380 And that's what the government

00:55:45.320 is slowly but surely

00:55:47.060 coming around to learning,

00:55:48.500 I'm sure.

00:55:49.120 But yes,

00:55:49.980 that's precisely it.

00:55:51.100 And that's precisely it.

00:55:51.640 Rudyard Kipling prophesied

00:55:53.400 the gammonzilla

00:55:54.880 and they didn't listen.

00:55:57.000 Absolutely.

00:55:57.400 When the English begin to hate, 0.95

00:55:59.800 so my bit,

00:56:01.860 well,

00:56:02.140 first we've got to do

00:56:02.700 the old Islander,

00:56:04.480 I imagine.

00:56:05.160 Well,

00:56:05.460 if Samsung can grab it up for us.

00:56:07.060 Let me see.

00:56:08.300 I'm trying to go,

00:56:08.900 oh,

00:56:09.460 go on.

00:56:10.360 Islander 4 is out,

00:56:11.620 guys.

00:56:11.900 Get it while stocks last

00:56:12.800 for 15 quid.

00:56:13.760 Don't,

00:56:14.320 you know,

00:56:14.500 it's a collector's item.

00:56:15.180 We don't want to pick it up

00:56:15.840 for 300 later on eBay.

00:56:17.640 So that's my Islander plug.

00:56:20.000 And guys,

00:56:20.640 I'm here to tell you

00:56:21.240 that re-migration is inevitable. 0.87

00:56:22.920 Who's saying this?

00:56:23.800 Is it me?

00:56:24.460 Is it Steve Laws?

00:56:25.480 No,

00:56:26.080 it's the new statesman.

00:56:28.160 Hey,

00:56:28.800 it's what the left is saying.

00:56:30.340 But I mean,

00:56:30.660 this is Steve Laws Twitter account

00:56:32.020 being portrayed in the new states.

00:56:33.540 He's the new editor.

00:56:34.540 Yeah,

00:56:34.760 I can.

00:56:36.040 So it's the age of deportation.

00:56:38.300 So I had a,

00:56:39.360 did a podcast with Arch yesterday

00:56:40.560 and he was like,

00:56:41.200 why is it the left

00:56:42.080 can do right wing propaganda

00:56:43.720 so much better?

00:56:45.080 It's beautiful,

00:56:45.520 isn't it?

00:56:45.780 than the right?

00:56:46.420 They're off into an aircraft hangar.

00:56:47.980 Isn't that incredible?

00:56:48.780 Because right wing donors are cheap.

00:56:50.460 Yeah,

00:56:50.640 that's,

00:56:50.960 yeah.

00:56:51.240 Yeah,

00:56:51.460 right.

00:56:51.800 They're like,

00:56:52.020 yeah,

00:56:52.100 we're doing the Hollywood version.

00:56:53.560 Yeah.

00:56:54.200 Yeah.

00:56:54.580 So incredible.

00:56:55.700 Tangiel Rashid in the new states

00:56:57.100 from the age of deportation.

00:56:58.780 The haven that Britain once was

00:57:00.300 is being dismantled.

00:57:01.240 In its place,

00:57:01.880 a fortress rises.

00:57:03.020 Thank God.

00:57:03.620 A fortress rises.

00:57:04.540 It's full on bay.

00:57:05.500 Finally,

00:57:05.960 fortress Britain.

00:57:07.880 Oh,

00:57:08.160 you thought deportations were your friend. 1.00

00:57:09.620 Yeah,

00:57:09.760 it's,

00:57:09.960 it's full on,

00:57:11.120 it's full on stuff.

00:57:12.160 Now,

00:57:12.360 why,

00:57:12.660 why did they do this?

00:57:13.260 You've got to wonder,

00:57:13.820 I mean, 0.99

00:57:14.020 is it Trump derangement style fear porn 0.99

00:57:16.140 where they just like, 0.96

00:57:16.880 they can't help themselves?

00:57:18.040 Are they trying to exaggerate like,

00:57:19.520 oh,

00:57:19.660 basic border control is terrible

00:57:20.980 to sort of try and contain it?

00:57:22.520 Is it a kind of dark Freudian fantasy?

00:57:24.220 Like,

00:57:24.340 oh,

00:57:24.620 don't deport me.

00:57:25.840 You know,

00:57:26.100 I did wonder,

00:57:27.280 but I don't know.

00:57:28.200 What do you think?

00:57:29.100 So I think if you think back like five years,

00:57:32.040 not even five years,

00:57:33.720 there's no chance anyone in the government

00:57:35.980 under the Tory government

00:57:37.160 would have come out and said,

00:57:39.620 I have England flags all over my house.

00:57:41.800 I'm an English nationalist.

00:57:43.160 I love England.

00:57:44.660 BBC would never have had any of this.

00:57:46.440 It's because there has been this primordial

00:57:48.420 tectonic shift under British politics

00:57:50.520 to the point where I think,

00:57:52.380 and it's widely,

00:57:52.920 I mean,

00:57:53.460 people,

00:57:53.880 literally normal people are talking about civil war

00:57:55.720 and stuff like this.

00:57:56.300 Yeah.

00:57:56.800 I think they're just well aware

00:57:57.780 that actually the mood has very much shifted

00:57:59.860 and we're going to start getting what we want

00:58:02.920 is what they think.

00:58:04.060 Yeah.

00:58:04.440 And that very much is the tone of the article,

00:58:06.580 but it starts quite differently.

00:58:07.880 It starts with a kind of nice sort of filmic scene

00:58:10.320 almost.

00:58:10.800 A few years ago,

00:58:11.580 as I cycled through my home stretch

00:58:13.360 of Northeast London,

00:58:14.120 my tire punctured,

00:58:15.020 I got off my bike

00:58:15.700 and locked it on a residential street.

00:58:17.380 Returning a few hours later,

00:58:18.260 I was shocked.

00:58:19.080 A wheel was missing.

00:58:19.880 I stood there exclaiming curses

00:58:21.440 on our delinquent nation,

00:58:22.660 our low trust society,

00:58:23.940 our crime ridden streets.

00:58:25.020 I was stood there being racist for a bit.

00:58:26.520 Yeah,

00:58:26.780 yeah,

00:58:26.920 yeah.

00:58:27.480 Well,

00:58:27.720 it all came out of me.

00:58:29.140 Gammonzilla was rising up.

00:58:30.880 Then a door opened behind me.

00:58:32.400 Don't worry,

00:58:32.900 said a man standing in the door with a smile.

00:58:34.860 There it was in his hand,

00:58:36.180 my front wheel.

00:58:36.960 What were the odds?

00:58:37.620 He then reassembled my bike.

00:58:39.060 The tire was now firm.

00:58:40.100 It's puncture repaired.

00:58:40.920 My benefactor turned out to be an asylum seeker.

00:58:43.720 Oh,

00:58:43.740 thank God.

00:58:44.300 Can you believe it?

00:58:44.980 Hold up in a home office property in Ilford.

00:58:47.600 I believe he's in Ilford's home office property,

00:58:49.820 but yeah.

00:58:50.400 Farred from work,

00:58:51.080 he had time on his hands

00:58:51.920 and he spent it fixing bicycles,

00:58:53.700 Carl.

00:58:53.920 He's a saint.

00:58:54.660 For which his hometown in Eritrea was famous.

00:58:56.780 That's what it's most known for.

00:58:58.180 The money I offered was refused,

00:59:00.660 even when government policy would suggest

00:59:02.160 he lived off a mere five pounds a day.

00:59:04.240 He mended my bike,

00:59:05.240 he said,

00:59:05.600 as a gift.

00:59:06.180 Just never take money.

00:59:07.620 Never take money for,

00:59:08.600 and the thing is,

00:59:09.280 right,

00:59:09.400 there is actually a town in Eritrea

00:59:11.000 that is famous for its bikes.

00:59:12.960 I actually looked this up.

00:59:14.500 It's quite big.

00:59:15.340 It's like,

00:59:15.700 you know,

00:59:15.900 a city,

00:59:16.620 but because they're too poor to have cars,

00:59:19.800 because they can't get petrol.

00:59:21.420 That's like when lefties pick up,

00:59:22.540 look at Cuba, 0.62

00:59:23.080 they've got like vintage vans.

00:59:24.340 Yeah,

00:59:24.480 yeah,

00:59:24.640 yeah.

00:59:25.160 Do you know why?

00:59:25.820 Yeah,

00:59:26.080 yeah.

00:59:27.120 That's the reason,

00:59:28.040 and so I guess that this guy has heard about this

00:59:29.960 on the internet somewhere

00:59:30.840 and made up this story based on it,

00:59:32.720 because I do not believe this story for a second.

00:59:34.640 Well,

00:59:34.980 yeah,

00:59:35.220 if it was the movie,

00:59:36.140 my movie anyway,

00:59:36.780 this would then cut to him being deported.

00:59:39.080 Oh,

00:59:39.460 no,

00:59:40.000 thanks for the bikes.

00:59:41.900 Anyway,

00:59:42.820 among,

00:59:43.100 oh yeah,

00:59:44.460 I was going to skip a bit to,

00:59:46.780 oh no,

00:59:47.080 where's the book that says among,

00:59:48.060 oh yeah,

00:59:48.340 it goes on and says how these people are just legion.

00:59:52.240 There's loads of them,

00:59:53.600 totally loads of them.

00:59:55.140 And there's a bit though,

00:59:55.960 I'm trying to find it now,

00:59:56.740 where they say,

00:59:57.860 they far outnumber the criminals

01:00:00.140 whose cases are provocatively trumpeted before the public.

01:00:03.240 Oh yeah,

01:00:03.480 here we go at the bottom.

01:00:04.260 And what really bothers me about that,

01:00:05.320 it's like,

01:00:06.020 yes,

01:00:06.380 but what number would you accept then of child,

01:00:09.000 I don't know if we're allowed to say the word,

01:00:10.260 but assault on,

01:00:11.720 you know.

01:00:12.760 But it's still massively disproportionate to the general population.

01:00:15.980 Yes.

01:00:16.280 We've all seen Rupert Lowe's graph.

01:00:18.040 Yeah,

01:00:18.400 yeah.

01:00:19.080 It's not just that,

01:00:19.660 it's that you can't,

01:00:20.680 if somebody throws away their identity,

01:00:22.960 you have no idea who the hell they are. 0.65

01:00:24.960 Yeah,

01:00:25.420 yeah,

01:00:25.660 absolutely.

01:00:26.000 You don't know what he's running from.

01:00:27.260 I've met people in Lebanon who proudly told me that they were claiming asylum in Germany as Syrian refugees.

01:00:34.220 Yeah.

01:00:34.580 So,

01:00:36.860 like,

01:00:37.240 why?

01:00:37.960 Why do you want to put up with us? 0.69

01:00:39.840 There's absolutely no reason we should.

01:00:41.900 But anyway,

01:00:42.240 sorry,

01:00:42.440 carry on.

01:00:42.720 No,

01:00:42.860 I can carry on.

01:00:43.340 I'm slightly put off by that camera always being right in my way.

01:00:46.080 And then there's light on the screen,

01:00:47.140 but I'm going to read it anyway.

01:00:48.040 This,

01:00:48.400 this is the point.

01:00:49.300 Our desire to eject asylum seekers today is really the barely concealed expression of an enveloping disillusionment with immigration generally, 0.90

01:00:56.320 even of the legal kind.

01:00:57.580 Correct.

01:00:58.140 That is correct,

01:00:58.780 isn't it?

01:00:59.320 It is,

01:00:59.680 it's propelling us out of the,

01:01:02.020 an age of migration into something altogether new,

01:01:03.900 an age of deportation.

01:01:05.580 And this,

01:01:06.040 this is,

01:01:06.780 this is superb as well,

01:01:08.000 because it's literally going to come down to the strangers are going home and the friends can stay.

01:01:12.260 Because what they're worried about is just every single person.

01:01:14.580 No,

01:01:15.100 no,

01:01:15.780 you know,

01:01:16.080 very few people are saying that.

01:01:17.440 Most of those people are just on Twitter.

01:01:19.160 What the average person is saying is,

01:01:20.640 I don't want all of these strangers in my country and they shouldn't have been in there in the first place. 0.90

01:01:24.300 I mean,

01:01:24.500 as a foreign taxpayer,

01:01:25.780 I'm horrified at paying taxes to house some Somali guy with his four wives who's cheating on benefits. 1.00

01:01:33.900 And we can literally just do it by that standard.

01:01:35.900 It's not,

01:01:36.520 it's not that hard.

01:01:37.680 It's not evil.

01:01:38.840 It's common sense.

01:01:39.900 If you were in the UAE, 0.54

01:01:41.100 if you were in Saudi Arabia,

01:01:42.380 none of this would be tolerated.

01:01:43.860 If you were in Pakistan, 0.99

01:01:44.960 it wouldn't be tolerated.

01:01:45.880 You would have been ejected back to Afghanistan. 0.99

01:01:47.420 Exactly. 1.00

01:01:47.780 So this whole thing is so just absolutely stupid. 1.00

01:01:53.620 It reflects how they view the native population of this country as inherently evil and inherently irrational. 1.00

01:02:01.000 And the more extreme they become,

01:02:03.840 the more they will will into being something that is extreme and irrational.

01:02:08.320 The thing is that,

01:02:09.280 like you said,

01:02:09.880 being a net taxpayer,

01:02:10.880 that's a good metric of friendship.

01:02:13.000 Did you come over and take advantage of the system or did you contribute to the system?

01:02:16.940 This is a very good way of determining who are the friends and who are the enemies.

01:02:20.460 And so if you have communities and households that are not net taxpayers,

01:02:24.660 then they can go.

01:02:25.740 And if you have ones that are,

01:02:27.000 they can stay.

01:02:28.020 This is a very simple and I think straightforward and quite logical and fair-minded way of fixing this problem.

01:02:33.280 Seems fair.

01:02:34.180 She goes on to talk about Rupert Lowe saying he would deport people involved in the grooming gangs.

01:02:39.560 And she says,

01:02:40.180 even if they were born here or held British citizenship,

01:02:42.760 British Pakistanis were in Lowe's eyes, 0.99

01:02:44.400 essentially foreigners with another nationality who could legitimately be deported back to their true homes in Pakistan.

01:02:50.280 Now,

01:02:50.440 couldn't you say it was their behavior by treating a certain group as other,

01:02:55.360 namely English girls, 0.91

01:02:57.320 and doing these horrific things to them?

01:02:59.420 And because they're not of their religion and race, 0.93

01:03:01.200 they did that to themselves.

01:03:02.740 They identified themselves as foreigners.

01:03:04.900 When you see the whole dress code of the Pakistanis, 1.00

01:03:08.060 this came into being because of a guy called Awal Al-Bawdoodi,

01:03:11.500 a Pakistani scholar back when India and Pakistan,

01:03:14.960 back in British colonial times,

01:03:16.600 who said that the Muslims and the Hindus were getting along too well,

01:03:22.020 therefore the Muslims need to be dressed completely differently 1.00

01:03:25.480 to mark themselves as Muslims

01:03:27.540 to make sure that there wouldn't be any sort of successful integration.

01:03:31.440 We can't have them being friends.

01:03:32.160 So when you see these dress codes by the Pakistanis,

01:03:35.560 they're marking themselves as foreign.

01:03:38.140 But also,

01:03:38.900 if we just ask ourselves,

01:03:40.860 how are we denoting the community that we're talking about?

01:03:43.880 We denote it by reference to a foreign country.

01:03:46.960 Like,

01:03:47.500 you literally call them the British Pakistanis to explain to us who you're talking about in this article.

01:03:52.780 So yes,

01:03:53.420 unsurprisingly,

01:03:54.040 we're like,

01:03:54.260 oh right,

01:03:54.580 a foreign community,

01:03:55.880 because you can't describe them in any other way.

01:03:58.180 Right.

01:03:58.420 You keep agitating for an airport.

01:03:59.960 Yeah,

01:04:00.440 in the airport.

01:04:00.680 I tell you what,

01:04:03.440 if someone did build that,

01:04:04.460 I'd be furious.

01:04:05.500 It's bad enough as it is.

01:04:06.480 Yeah.

01:04:06.700 Even if it was for deportations only.

01:04:08.440 Well,

01:04:08.960 okay.

01:04:10.600 This bit though is very much what you were saying.

01:04:12.320 It's a sign of how rapidly the Overton window of acceptable policy has shifted

01:04:15.580 that barely a year has passed since Lowe was forced out of his former party

01:04:18.920 for proposing these mass deportations.

01:04:21.480 And that is exactly,

01:04:23.300 I mean,

01:04:23.640 good work,

01:04:24.080 lads,

01:04:24.260 basically.

01:04:24.640 Yeah.

01:04:25.820 And the funny thing is she's now making Callum points because Callum says one year ago

01:04:30.500 they kicked Bo from the party for advocating mass deportations.

01:04:33.020 Now it's completely mainstream.

01:04:34.320 I mean,

01:04:34.980 literally,

01:04:35.400 Zia Yusuf is announcing a mass deportation policy.

01:04:38.320 Yeah.

01:04:38.880 Yeah.

01:04:39.280 So totally based.

01:04:40.280 Bo was ahead of the curve.

01:04:41.460 Yeah.

01:04:42.640 And now the New States was admitting that's exactly what happened.

01:04:45.260 So she's not wrong on the facts.

01:04:47.200 It's a he that wrote this.

01:04:48.200 Is it?

01:04:48.600 Yeah.

01:04:48.940 Oh,

01:04:49.620 okay.

01:04:49.920 Sorry.

01:04:50.220 It's a man.

01:04:50.580 It's fine.

01:04:51.080 Okay.

01:04:51.440 I couldn't tell because the name wasn't used to the name.

01:04:54.280 I just looked him up.

01:04:54.900 It wasn't English.

01:04:56.160 Okay.

01:04:56.540 Sorry about that,

01:04:57.220 man.

01:04:57.720 I used the wrong pronouns.

01:05:00.000 So anyway,

01:05:01.700 he goes on to quote Enoch Powell.

01:05:04.920 Now there's always a danger when you quote Powell because he's going to be far more eloquent

01:05:10.580 than you and he's going to be far more correct than you.

01:05:13.580 So if I can find the quote,

01:05:15.240 it's kind of just that.

01:05:16.360 Well,

01:05:16.600 is it?

01:05:17.120 Is that a different one?

01:05:18.020 What Enoch Powell says today is what we say tomorrow.

01:05:20.240 Oh yeah.

01:05:20.660 It's what binds us together.

01:05:22.120 If only.

01:05:22.980 It's weird that I can't.

01:05:24.140 Oh,

01:05:24.340 there we go.

01:05:24.700 It's just there.

01:05:25.080 Oh yeah,

01:05:25.260 here we go.

01:05:25.880 So tell us what it is that binds us together.

01:05:28.380 Enoch Powell,

01:05:28.940 the prophet of the coming age,

01:05:30.080 once demanded in a fantastical recital of English history.

01:05:33.840 We can ignore the word fantastical there.

01:05:35.300 Show us the clue.

01:05:35.900 Probably was fantastic.

01:05:36.820 Yeah,

01:05:37.320 true.

01:05:37.780 Show us the clue that leads through a thousand years,

01:05:39.940 the unity of England,

01:05:40.900 effortless and unconstrained,

01:05:42.320 the homogeneity of England,

01:05:43.520 so profound and embracing that the counties and regions make it a hobby to discover their

01:05:47.740 differences and assert their peculiarities.

01:05:50.080 Isn't that exactly right?

01:05:50.900 It's amazing.

01:05:51.740 Yeah.

01:05:52.040 And his whole speech,

01:05:53.060 that's a 1964 and I think the 1961 speech is incredible as well,

01:05:56.200 where he quotes later about the sap of England and how despite the empire,

01:06:01.320 there's still that key sort of core to it and root.

01:06:05.080 Vitality.

01:06:05.520 Yeah.

01:06:06.480 And he goes on.

01:06:08.200 Now watch the slide pivot.

01:06:09.540 Powell's fantasy was never right.

01:06:10.700 The multiculturalism of today's England arose out of a history genuinely rooted and centuries old.

01:06:15.760 1948.

01:06:16.920 From its inception. 0.99

01:06:18.140 Liars. 0.99

01:06:18.760 Britishness, 1.00

01:06:19.300 pivot to Britain,

01:06:20.000 you see,

01:06:20.460 was a composite identity formed in the aftermath of the union of England and Scotland.

01:06:24.400 So it's that kind of pivot.

01:06:25.420 It's like he's talking about England and suddenly it's Britain,

01:06:28.120 the colonial project.

01:06:29.180 It's a different thing.

01:06:29.740 But its empire feted Britain to become a multicultural society molded by generations of intercontinental free movement

01:06:37.260 that would catapult Englishmen like Powell abroad and in turn people of diverse origins to Britain.

01:06:41.420 That's so not true.

01:06:43.220 Like for hundreds of years we had a world-spanning empire and we didn't allow any of them to come here. 1.00

01:06:48.140 Yeah.

01:06:48.440 Not just that.

01:06:49.460 Let's pause and sort of go back to my neck of the woods.

01:06:52.540 The Ottomans had an empire spanning parts of Europe, North Africa, Middle East, etc., etc.

01:07:02.140 And they ended up being ridiculously nationalistic about Turkish identity.

01:07:07.180 The idea that just having an empire means that you must therefore adopt multiculturalism is absolutely nonsensical.

01:07:15.340 But if anything, it seems that having the empire is what makes you more nationalistic due to common exposure to foreign cultures,

01:07:21.660 foreign nations.

01:07:22.540 The Ottomans weren't particularly nationalistic when they ruled,

01:07:25.620 but when their empire fell, they became ridiculously nationalistic.

01:07:29.800 So the idea that you had an empire in the past, therefore now you must accept multiculturalism,

01:07:34.180 like that doesn't apply anywhere else.

01:07:36.340 And so why are you saying this when you know that it isn't true about the Muslim empire that's most relevant to you?

01:07:42.260 Yeah.

01:07:42.520 And actually, I didn't include it in the end, but Powell, I'll just read it because he had a brilliant bid on this in his 1961 speech.

01:07:48.680 He says he's talking about coming back from the empire and finding that England is still there.

01:07:52.140 And he says,

01:07:52.780 So the continuity of her existence, meaning England, was unbroken when the looser connections which had linked her with distant continents and strange races fell away.

01:08:00.780 Thus our generation is one which comes home again from years of distant wandering.

01:08:04.480 We discover affinities with earlier generations of English who felt no country but this to be their own.

01:08:09.740 So he starts with Kipling and things that he's saying, okay, there was this generation of empire, but actually there's always an England there behind it that was never solid by this.

01:08:18.600 So completely different to the person writing this article.

01:08:21.740 So true as well.

01:08:22.820 Yeah.

01:08:23.000 Incidentally, this is a great rebuttal to the whole Michaela story, that just because you learned about Enoch Powell or Rudyard Kipling or what have you, that doesn't mean that you'll actually become British.

01:08:35.200 It could just as easily mean that you will use that history in order to undermine England.

01:08:40.000 England.

01:08:40.760 Yeah.

01:08:41.100 So it's just as a sort of incidental point here.

01:08:44.640 Yeah.

01:08:44.920 Now, this is a very interesting bit.

01:08:46.120 This age of deportation is a global one.

01:08:49.020 This is a paradox.

01:08:49.840 The brutal reification of national borders through deportation is now a thoroughly globalized phenomenon.

01:08:54.960 Why is that a paradox?

01:08:55.960 So I'll explain.

01:08:56.780 It's actually similar to your tweet.

01:08:58.600 So where's the book that says the nascent frenzy of...

01:09:02.600 Just underneath it.

01:09:03.540 Yeah, there's a thing on the screen that's like totally...

01:09:06.340 Oh, yeah.

01:09:06.920 The nascent frenzy to expel illegal migrants in England is already in a very advanced state in India.

01:09:11.600 So she talks about how this is the case in India.

01:09:13.800 So what actually...

01:09:14.260 She, it's he.

01:09:15.120 I've done it again.

01:09:15.860 It reminded me actually of your tweet, Carl, because I think it's the same paradox as this, that the people from around the world are saying we want to have nations.

01:09:23.580 So it's a global phenomenon, in a sense, of nations saying we are not the global sludge.

01:09:28.320 We are nations.

01:09:29.220 It's a global reaction against globalism.

01:09:31.800 Yes.

01:09:31.980 You know, because globalism, by its nature, being everywhere, trying to undermine every nation everywhere, has made the old adversaries realize actually they're kind of old allies as well.

01:09:41.820 Yes.

01:09:42.060 Whether you realize it or not.

01:09:43.500 And without the French, who are you fighting? 1.00

01:09:45.520 Without the English, who are the Irish holding a grudge against? 0.70

01:09:49.800 You know, without us existing as we are, none of it makes sense and everyone's identity goes away.

01:09:56.000 And actually, it would be better to have a world of nations rather than of, like you say, the sludge.

01:10:00.220 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:00.840 And the fact that your tweet got 71,000 likes, 14.4 million views.

01:10:03.480 Well, Elon retweeted it.

01:10:04.840 Oh, well, that'll help as well.

01:10:06.520 But it's obviously resonating with him and with many, and you're just saying what you've just said there.

01:10:10.480 Yeah, sorry, there's a light right on the screen, which is why I keep acting retarded. 1.00

01:10:13.040 But the other thing about this, he says the brutal reification of national borders, suggesting they aren't real.

01:10:21.020 Reification suggests they're an abstract that's made real.

01:10:23.220 It's like, no, they are real.

01:10:24.240 They're a border.

01:10:25.220 It's the sea.

01:10:26.780 I think that's insane.

01:10:27.680 Even if there's something artificial that we construct ourselves, so, so is the bloody internet.

01:10:33.620 And that's how you're earning your living. 0.52

01:10:35.280 Close your house.

01:10:35.680 Exactly, so is your house, you know.

01:10:37.280 Just because we construct things doesn't mean they're not valid and decent and good.

01:10:42.000 And that's why we construct these things.

01:10:43.780 It's because they're a good idea.

01:10:45.200 Yeah, and the only bit I agree with, in a sense, is that when he says dismantling international human rights laws is therefore not a solution.

01:10:53.840 The answer, if it exists at all, lies in strengthening it so that fewer people are made stateless or forced to flee illegal wars and persecution.

01:10:59.940 I mean, if they want to do that so they never leave in the first place, I'm down for this.

01:11:03.080 But that would be fine.

01:11:04.120 No, no, no.

01:11:04.400 What he's saying is literally anyone from anywhere, for any reason, should be able to claim asylum in Britain.

01:11:09.080 What?

01:11:09.500 Okay, I'm against it then.

01:11:10.340 Yeah, of course, because dismantling international human rights laws isn't a solution for the shit-lib globalist who writes for the New Statesman, but it is absolutely a solution for the normal people of the world.

01:11:20.900 So that's what's going to happen.

01:11:22.980 Yeah, and I don't know how much time we have, but there was another article in the New Statesman as well, which was interesting, because it was Andrew Marr, kind of a lefty but mainstream.

01:11:32.840 And it was probably too big to go through the whole thing, but he calls it the left's immigration failure.

01:11:37.320 And his conclusion was different.

01:11:39.820 And he's not saying deportations are inevitable.

01:11:42.400 He basically, in the piece, says he has a sort of technocratic Malthusian vision.

01:11:46.860 It's all about managing resources.

01:11:49.080 And he says the left's got to get ahead of this, but purely from a resource management thing.

01:11:52.920 He says we're not going back from migration, which is different from the other article, but they're definitely going to lose if they don't manage it.

01:11:59.440 And he's constantly worried throughout the article that actually it is going to be more like the other article describes it.

01:12:03.060 It is going to be this brutal deportation thing.

01:12:05.520 There's one particular bit in it that would infuriate you, though.

01:12:08.160 He says there's a second obligation.

01:12:13.200 So he talks about government having two obligations.

01:12:16.500 I was kind of reminding you, when you said earlier, are you not furious about the way that migrants are being prioritised for housing and things like this?

01:12:23.940 He talks about two obligations that the government has.

01:12:29.440 But the first one, here we go.

01:12:31.400 So Labour has struggled to straddle two different kinds of political obligation.

01:12:34.900 There is an obligation to the wretched of the earth, to a wider world affected by war, climate change and tyranny.

01:12:40.200 There are a few, and he talks about there would be a few British people that wouldn't want to save a drowning child.

01:12:44.700 But he says there is for the government a second obligation, which is to the sustainability and happiness of the people already here.

01:12:50.560 That's the second.

01:12:51.340 Why is that the second?

01:12:52.680 That means having an overview of the number who can be fed, housed and educated sustainably.

01:12:57.320 Notice also it's just so utilitarian.

01:12:59.120 Taking into account the reasonable and unselfish desires of the current population for space, air and security.

01:13:03.800 So there's no identity in the whole piece.

01:13:06.420 He talks about, OK, there's militant Muslims against white English racists, and we all need to compete for space and air.

01:13:13.640 So, yes, there's an overpopulation problem. 0.99

01:13:15.560 And OK, we don't want sex pests. 1.00

01:13:17.000 But it's very kind of, it really shows actually the Labour failure to deal with any of this.

01:13:21.080 It's totally managerial.

01:13:22.000 It's totally materialistic.

01:13:23.620 Yes.

01:13:23.960 I realised that thinking, when I realised that thinking about things in a materialistic way,

01:13:28.980 I began to sort of change my mind about important questions.

01:13:31.840 Because if you think that this is simply a material question, you will never understand it.

01:13:38.120 It isn't.

01:13:38.920 Right.

01:13:39.320 So all I can hear is Gammonzilla chanting, Inga Lund, Inga Lund, Inga Lund.

01:13:44.820 That's all I can hear when he speaks like this.

01:13:47.440 So this is about the ideal, man.

01:13:49.520 This is about spiritual questions.

01:13:51.880 Yes.

01:13:52.180 The nation.

01:13:53.020 You know, this isn't about materialism.

01:13:54.480 Yeah.

01:13:54.660 And even the sort of vision, at the end he sort of offers a vision.

01:13:57.340 I can imagine a future a few years ahead in which the government, perhaps by using the

01:14:01.640 deterrent effect of quick asylum returns and ID cards for all workers, copying the Danes 1.00

01:14:06.400 and Swede, begins to win the battle on migration.

01:14:08.580 Just stop them.

01:14:09.820 You're the ones letting them in.

01:14:11.220 Again, it's so technocratic.

01:14:12.440 And such efforts would inevitably start a conversation about sustainable population levels.

01:14:16.320 This is the only way he can conceive of this argument.

01:14:18.560 I just don't understand, like, the government could win the war on immigration.

01:14:21.920 Well, who's stamping the visas?

01:14:23.680 Well, it's the Home Office, obviously.

01:14:25.700 Who's literally ferrying them in across the channel?

01:14:28.040 Well, it's the Royal Navy and the Coast Guard, actually.

01:14:30.700 We're the ones, we're letting this happen.

01:14:32.880 We're not being overpowered or something.

01:14:35.400 God, it's so frustrating.

01:14:36.160 I know.

01:14:36.540 And he's gaslighting on that.

01:14:37.560 And there's one part in the article that even says, to repeat, there is, anyway, no going

01:14:40.960 back.

01:14:41.420 It's like, that's weird, because another article in the same publication says they're totally

01:14:44.620 all going back.

01:14:45.600 But he's like, there's no way back.

01:14:46.900 This has happened now.

01:14:47.760 It's sort of fake faithfulness in the back.

01:14:50.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:50.960 Just decisions by ministers.

01:14:52.300 No, no, I've spoken to people, I'm not going to name them, who have just been like, look,

01:14:55.220 we just have to accept that Islam is here now. 1.00

01:14:57.080 It's like, you know what?

01:14:59.000 You know, like, in the early 20th century, we didn't accept a lot of stuff.

01:15:02.340 You know, like, 1920s, where we had, like, mass deportations between Greece and Turkey

01:15:05.900 and stuff like this.

01:15:06.780 We were just like, no, we're not having it.

01:15:08.420 It's just a much cleaner solution if everyone just switches over.

01:15:12.000 You know, and after World War II, the Germans were deported out of Eastern Europe.

01:15:14.920 Just like, no, we're just doing it.

01:15:16.580 And honestly, I can see something like that coming about again, because it's just like,

01:15:20.620 look, there are loads of problems in the future.

01:15:22.320 Or we could just get this done cleanly without anyone being killed.

01:15:25.080 You know, no one's going to die.

01:15:26.280 It's just the easiest way for everyone.

01:15:29.100 Yeah.

01:15:29.380 And honestly, generations in the future will thank us.

01:15:32.900 Can I have that mouse back?

01:15:34.040 Yeah, yeah.

01:15:38.040 Right.

01:15:38.400 Okay, let's go to the video comments.

01:15:41.600 And while you're doing that, I'll get the actual comments up.

01:15:46.660 I wasn't paying attention as I was.

01:15:48.840 Omar says, Takiyah Khan keeps saying British Muslims, but he's describing both non-native

01:15:53.840 passport holders and refusing to exclude non-British Muslims.

01:15:56.680 That's a great point.

01:15:57.680 And this sort of linguistic denotation games are very important to keep an eye on.

01:16:05.600 And it's one of those things you don't really think about, because it's just the sort of

01:16:08.820 liquid nature of human conversation.

01:16:11.100 That's a great point, Omar.

01:16:12.460 Like, he is describing literally any Muslim in Britain as a British Muslim, as equally as

01:16:18.120 valid a claim.

01:16:18.780 So that Eritrean asylum seeker or whatever, is just as much of a claim as, you know, your

01:16:23.560 nan, who is being kicked out of a house or whatever.

01:16:26.780 But anyway, right, let's go to the video comments.

01:16:31.680 Okay, apparently the video comments haven't been edited.

01:16:34.500 So after the podcast, I will be thrashing the editing team.

01:16:37.500 Sorry to gold tier members who sent us a video comment, and we can't watch it.

01:16:42.040 But trust me, they'll get a good old Saudi justice. 0.75

01:16:44.880 Angel Brain says, I remember my first jobs.

01:16:51.440 My first proper job was stacking shelves in Morrisons for £2.16 an hour.

01:16:55.060 Before all that, I did my paper round when I was 30 years old.

01:16:57.540 Six miles around to earn money to buy the latest heavy metal tapes to listen to on my paper

01:17:01.420 round.

01:17:01.580 A perfect system.

01:17:02.940 What was your first job, Nick?

01:17:04.740 Do you know what?

01:17:05.100 It was washing up in my parents' little restaurant.

01:17:07.800 So they ran a little restaurant, and I was forced to wash up in it.

01:17:10.980 And he'd be like, how can you say no?

01:17:12.260 He'd be like, can you do the washing up to us?

01:17:13.720 And it's like a school night.

01:17:15.040 You know, you can get back from school.

01:17:16.800 You don't have to go in the next day.

01:17:17.960 I'll have no time to myself.

01:17:19.160 So you're like, no.

01:17:20.220 But it's your parents.

01:17:20.800 How did you get out of it?

01:17:21.620 Yeah.

01:17:22.020 But it was a job because it was an official restaurant.

01:17:25.060 So if that counts, it was...

01:17:26.380 Did you get paid?

01:17:27.300 Yeah, they paid me a little bit.

01:17:28.380 Oh, that's good.

01:17:29.060 What about yourself?

01:17:31.080 Carrying boxes in a warehouse.

01:17:32.440 Really?

01:17:33.080 Yeah.

01:17:33.560 Mine was working, peeling potatoes in a chip shop.

01:17:36.640 Ah.

01:17:37.360 That's proper miserable.

01:17:38.260 Yeah, 50.

01:17:39.180 To be honest with you, I actually really enjoyed it.

01:17:41.040 Because, like, it was, you know, there was the counter and then a door that led into the

01:17:46.300 kitchen area.

01:17:46.920 And it was basically just me in its kitchen.

01:17:50.020 And so I'd just, you know, put...

01:17:51.580 They had, like, a CD player.

01:17:53.680 So it was the time of CDs.

01:17:55.000 And so I'd get whatever albums I liked.

01:17:57.200 I'd take them into work.

01:17:57.940 I'd put them on.

01:17:58.840 And I'd listen to it.

01:17:59.460 And basically, what I had to do is put huge bags of potatoes into this sort of churning

01:18:04.360 machine that pulls them.

01:18:05.640 And then you'd chuck them at the end.

01:18:06.580 And then I was putting through a cutter.

01:18:08.280 And then there you go.

01:18:09.100 Here's a tub of chips, basically, for the front.

01:18:12.820 And to be honest with you, I had a great time.

01:18:14.240 I'd do it for, you know, three hours a night or something.

01:18:16.120 And I was just on my own, just like, you know, singing along to my music and just being

01:18:19.620 16 or whatever.

01:18:20.540 And I actually quite enjoyed it.

01:18:23.140 But yeah, anyway, yeah.

01:18:24.120 So, yeah.

01:18:24.900 The first proper job was, you know, good.

01:18:26.820 But Russian says, surprising number of younger, pretty women at the Reform Conference. 1.00

01:18:31.620 They can smell the winners, it seems.

01:18:33.020 You know what, right?

01:18:33.660 That was the same at the Witan as well.

01:18:35.680 There were, like, for the first couple of years, as you were there, mostly it was like

01:18:39.680 stringy, nerdy men, right?

01:18:42.960 But this year, there were like half a dozen attractive single women. 1.00

01:18:47.380 And it was just like, right, okay.

01:18:49.640 So things are changing.

01:18:50.880 The vibe is shifting.

01:18:52.060 Russian says, the women are like, yeah, okay, no, it's going over there. 1.00

01:18:54.600 I'm going to get myself a husband from this side.

01:18:56.820 Which is good.

01:18:58.140 Oh, I called it.

01:18:58.800 This reminds me of, do you see my tweet the other day?

01:19:01.160 About Susanna, Susanna Rhee, whatever she's called.

01:19:04.140 So she was suddenly, like, sort of making the case.

01:19:07.600 Based on red pill.

01:19:08.280 Yeah, like a little bit to Kevin Maguire, who's obviously left of anyone.

01:19:11.680 And I suddenly came up with this term, the ovary window.

01:19:14.880 Ah, right, yeah.

01:19:15.640 Which is when women decide it's acceptable to move. 1.00

01:19:18.680 And I'm like, this is a genius coinage, right?

01:19:20.500 It's not quite Gammonzilla, but it's pretty good.

01:19:22.400 No, no, no, no.

01:19:23.480 I think.

01:19:23.840 I think it's even better.

01:19:24.700 I think it subtly describes a very real phenomenon that everyone can feel.

01:19:31.220 Like, when the women realize the men have actually built something sustainable and they need to be on the right side of it, the ovary window shifts. 0.53

01:19:36.740 And, and, but then that's good for all the young men who'd put in all the time and effort.

01:19:43.880 We'll have video comments in five minutes.

01:19:45.680 Because I was shaming them.

01:19:46.620 It was the threat.

01:19:47.580 Threats work.

01:19:48.220 Yeah, yeah, threats work.

01:19:49.320 See, see, don't let anyone tell you it doesn't.

01:19:53.960 But yeah, no, I think the ovary window is a superb coinage and well done.

01:19:58.960 But I like Gammonzilla as well.

01:20:00.200 I think Mary did a good job on that one because it rolls off the tongue and it's got that kind of intimidating, like, implication.

01:20:08.860 Yes.

01:20:09.160 You know, but yeah, the Gammon's going to start destroying everything.

01:20:12.240 Michael says, funny, my work as an English speaking, my work has an English speaking rule.

01:20:16.520 But the leftists say it's for health and safety.

01:20:20.200 Well, it might well be.

01:20:22.420 Okidor has sent us a super chat saying, by what, by what these articles sound, sound like, I'm surprised they're not saying the great Indian poet Rudyard Kipling.

01:20:30.360 Well, that's the point.

01:20:31.440 How can they not say the great Indian poet Rudyard Kipling, right?

01:20:34.800 Because he was born and raised in India, but everyone knows he was an Englishman.

01:20:38.240 And when decolonization came, they just pointed at him and said, out.

01:20:41.460 Why?

01:20:41.900 Because you're English and we know you're English, you know, and the same thing can happen here and it can happen anywhere.

01:20:45.580 I love the idea of Gammonzilla, an ancient beast released from the planet itself as a cleansing ritual.

01:20:52.960 Being awoken to correct the sins of modernity and stomping around saying, I just don't like them, is beauty personified.

01:20:59.640 I love it.

01:21:01.000 You know, it's totally true.

01:21:02.160 And I think every country has its own Gammonzilla.

01:21:04.060 I think that's what Trump was tapping into.

01:21:05.960 Yes.

01:21:06.260 And I think they're right to be afraid of it.

01:21:08.520 Omar says, even Gammonzilla is the peaceful option because once he's achieved a British Britain, he'll calmly go back to sleep. 0.52

01:21:15.960 If they awake the Gammon Reich, the trials will be legendary in their ruthlessness. 0.95

01:21:19.920 If we decide the world needs another British empire, I don't think we'll be quite so polite this time.

01:21:24.240 Well, that's the thing.

01:21:24.680 I don't think it will come to anything like that.

01:21:26.120 But I do think that basically we're watching at the moment the pillars holding up the liberal order just falling one by one.

01:21:32.940 And I think in like 10 years time, we'll find that things are just done in a really different way.

01:21:38.860 Do you know what?

01:21:39.240 Did you ever watch that?

01:21:39.540 I think everybody will end up pretending that they were for it all along.

01:21:42.300 100%.

01:21:42.580 Yes.

01:21:42.980 Everybody will end up pretending that, oh, I was always in favor.

01:21:45.800 I never believed the drafts were. 1.00

01:21:47.640 Fuck you. 1.00

01:21:48.340 We know you did. 1.00

01:21:49.680 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:50.380 I was never in favor of putting the asylum seekers up in hotels. 1.00

01:21:53.820 And people will just dig up one of their tweets from 2023 and be like, what's this thing? 1.00

01:21:57.640 You fucking liar. 0.99

01:21:58.260 Yeah, there's a similar thing to Gammonzilla in Brexit, An Uncivil War. 1.00

01:22:02.540 Have you seen that?

01:22:03.140 The film where Benedict Cumberbatch plays Dominic Cummings.

01:22:06.660 And he says Britain makes a sound and it's like he's got his ear on the ground.

01:22:09.360 It's like Britain's making this grumbling low sound.

01:22:11.660 Yeah, that's Gammonzilla.

01:22:12.460 Yeah, it's Gammonzilla.

01:22:13.280 And it came out during Brexit and it sort of goes away.

01:22:16.080 And he's like, it's been sort of quenched for now.

01:22:18.220 Yeah.

01:22:18.500 Vanquished or whatever.

01:22:19.680 It would be satated for now, but then he'll come back.

01:22:22.300 But that's exactly correct, though.

01:22:24.580 And they should have listened.

01:22:26.060 You know, Gammonzilla is going to make himself heard.

01:22:28.260 Instead, the punishment was the Boris wave.

01:22:30.860 Exactly.

01:22:31.600 Instead, he was punished with the Boris wave.

01:22:35.040 Kevin says, the problem with Gammonzilla today is that he has a Liberal Democrat tumour eating away at one foot, stopping him from going on full rampage.

01:22:41.440 Yeah, but the problem the Liberal Democrats have is the second the machetes are in the street, they'll vote for the BNP.

01:22:46.740 I'm absolutely telling you.

01:22:48.660 The Lib Dems are not hostile to Britain.

01:22:50.880 They're just isolated from the problem.

01:22:52.960 But when the machetes are running down their street, that's it.

01:22:55.300 They're Gammonzilla.

01:22:55.960 I mean, you even saw the sort of outlying signs of it in Ed Davey talking about the noise on the train.

01:23:03.700 Noise, yeah.

01:23:04.080 That's Gammonzilla.

01:23:05.500 Yes.

01:23:06.120 Yeah, it's a little bit.

01:23:06.780 And they're very nimby. 1.00

01:23:07.640 I mean, they're like the Lib Dems back in the lakes where I'm from.

01:23:10.500 And you cannot build a house there ever.

01:23:12.580 Yeah.

01:23:12.740 And, you know, so even in the Lib Dems, the Gammonzilla lives, you know.

01:23:17.540 Let's watch the video comments that have finally arrived.

01:23:21.580 Oh, did we?

01:23:22.400 Oh, okay.

01:23:22.980 Let me, do you want to grab the video comments?

01:23:25.360 And Zerg for $50, thanks man, says, take my money.

01:23:28.420 I found my soon-to-be wife on your Discord five years ago.

01:23:31.980 Congratulations.

01:23:32.800 We don't have a Discord.

01:23:34.400 But congratulations.

01:23:36.080 Don't let that stop you.

01:23:38.360 Thank you very much.

01:23:40.800 It's good for the first comment.

01:23:42.620 Yeah, why are you giving people that have put nothing into the tax system?

01:23:46.900 The money the government's spending is not the government's money.

01:23:49.760 It is our money.

01:23:51.940 It is money you rub off us in all the taxes we take.

01:23:56.220 It's why a pint in Spain costs you next to nothing.

01:23:58.920 But here, unless you are earning 70 grand a year, you can't afford to go to the pub.

01:24:04.740 And if you could send out a message to the government, what would you say?

01:24:07.820 Wake up before the country wakes you up.

01:24:12.060 The voice of Gammonzilla.

01:24:14.780 Definitely a libertarian there making the argument against tax.

01:24:17.780 Oh, this is the most traditional English position in the world, though.

01:24:20.680 Yeah. 0.98

01:24:20.920 Why are you screwing me? 0.99

01:24:22.400 Right. 0.97

01:24:23.020 What was that war that was purely about some minor taxing?

01:24:26.400 Well, there were loads of them.

01:24:27.460 There were loads of them.

01:24:27.920 I mean, the American Revolution is about that.

01:24:29.400 No, there was one you were telling me about one of the old English wars.

01:24:32.720 You remember?

01:24:34.500 I need more details.

01:24:36.100 I can't remember.

01:24:36.880 I'm too tired.

01:24:37.320 I'll think of it in a minute.

01:24:38.420 Let's go to the next one.

01:24:39.180 I will not cease from mental fright, nor shall my soul sleep in my hand, till we have built

01:24:54.800 Jerusalem, in England's green and pleasant land.

01:25:04.480 All I'm saying is, if I were in the government, I'd be like, look, we're just going to have

01:25:12.600 to go to the right.

01:25:13.400 It's just got to be done.

01:25:14.460 There's nowhere else to go at this point.

01:25:16.440 Exactly.

01:25:16.800 Nothing left on the left.

01:25:18.540 Absolutely nothing.

01:25:20.140 Let's go to the next one.

01:25:21.060 Thank you for saving us. 0.98

01:25:24.280 Now we can destroy this old lady. 1.00

01:25:27.240 La, la, la, la, la. 1.00

01:25:29.280 What?

01:25:29.580 I mean, did you see the thing about the lady who was killed in the NHS hospital?

01:25:36.980 Yeah.

01:25:37.660 It was going around this morning.

01:25:39.120 Yeah.

01:25:39.340 I'm not even going to describe it.

01:25:41.300 It's gruesome.

01:25:42.780 But it's like, okay, am I going to place bets on what kind of person did that?

01:25:49.000 Anyway.

01:25:49.400 Mother of Hate Monsters says, can we please get re-migration completed as England's 1,100th 1.00

01:25:57.120 birthday present in 2027?

01:25:58.920 Well, I guess we'll find out, won't we?

01:26:01.820 Roman Observer says, the left lost, they're begging for mercy.

01:26:04.860 They just haven't noticed it yet because they're bad at noticing.

01:26:07.160 Also, do we have another video comment?

01:26:08.360 Let's go for that.

01:26:09.580 The gang rape may have been a way to vent frustration due to migration experiences.

01:26:14.580 Sporadically, I go back over speeches from the BBC's annual Reith lectures.

01:26:17.840 Some are remarkably based, others woefully woke.

01:26:21.040 I was shocked to find such heinous attitudes as are currently used to excuse migrants' behaviour

01:26:25.000 have dated back at least to 1961 and the fourth in Marjorie Perham's lecture series

01:26:29.540 entitled The Colonial Reckoning.

01:26:31.780 She actually attempted to excuse retaliatory orgies of severe sexual assault of white women 0.99

01:26:39.360 in the Congo. 0.99

01:26:41.980 Jesus. 0.98

01:26:42.620 I mean, it is absolutely right that in the 60s you see all of the shit-lib arguments being 0.99

01:26:49.620 trotted out. 0.96

01:26:50.480 Like, if you go back and watch Jonathan Miller's discussion with Enoch Powell, and it's just 0.99

01:26:54.380 modern-day shit-libbery. 0.97

01:26:55.600 Their arguments have not evolved. 0.99

01:26:56.900 Go back to the Race Relations Act 1965 and the lefties are all doing it.

01:27:01.520 They're all saying exactly the same stuff.

01:27:03.620 Their arguments have not changed at all.

01:27:07.520 And the thing is, as well, Enoch Powell was just vindicated so much.

01:27:11.580 Like, because Miller's entire argument was just that numbers don't add up.

01:27:15.780 That's his entire...

01:27:16.440 Like, Enoch's like, well, I think a third of Birmingham could be of minority extraction.

01:27:20.800 And Miller's just like, no, I don't think that'll happen.

01:27:22.420 I don't think that'll happen.

01:27:23.100 It's like, but if you keep adding people to it, one plus one, plus one, plus one.

01:27:26.780 He also says two other tropes, they always do it.

01:27:28.440 One, it'll be different, but why will it necessarily be worse?

01:27:30.880 And also, if you stop going on about it, isn't that the problem?

01:27:34.180 The charisma of your office is making people worry.

01:27:36.420 He's like, no, I don't think so.

01:27:37.520 They did the exact same in Enoch's 1981 immigration speech.

01:27:40.660 The lefties all interrupt him and say exactly the same thing.

01:27:43.920 Those two things always, like, you're doing this, and it'll be fine. 1.00

01:27:46.900 Just shut up. 1.00

01:27:47.440 And it's like, no, it won't. 0.99

01:27:48.520 He's the only one that can see it.

01:27:49.620 There's a Jimmy Carr joke about this.

01:27:52.000 You can avoid 100% of rapes if you just say yes.

01:27:56.840 That is a Jimmy Carr joke.

01:27:58.780 Chance from Canada says,

01:28:00.000 There it was in his hands, my wheel, and then everyone clapped.

01:28:04.080 And that really is, I just, can you imagine?

01:28:06.860 Can you imagine that story, like, being true?

01:28:09.140 Come on.

01:28:10.880 Kevin says, this is why the one in, one out is a lie.

01:28:13.160 Because the one in will be someone who's been granted asylum, 0.99

01:28:15.660 so the next thing they will do is use the reunification

01:28:18.400 to bring the four wives, 20 kids in, and so it's one out, 15 in. 0.99

01:28:21.940 And this is what the Tories did when they were sneaking in the Afghan migrants. 1.00

01:28:24.960 Yes.

01:28:25.140 25,000 Afghan migrants, but how many family members?

01:28:27.660 We don't know.

01:28:28.560 Because they snuck it in and then used a legal injunction

01:28:31.320 to prevent the press from telling you.

01:28:34.500 The Conservative Party, ladies and gentlemen.

01:28:37.860 Anyway, right.

01:28:38.640 So, we are out of time at that point.

01:28:41.260 So, we will be live on lotuses.com in 30 minutes,

01:28:46.320 examining our DNA results.

01:28:48.960 And it's, honestly, I'm right.

01:28:53.300 I was telling the truth the whole time.

01:28:55.300 So, look forward to having that.

01:28:57.440 You should be pretty shocked, though, by the results.

01:28:59.580 I know, but that's not a picture of me looking at my results.

01:29:03.520 But anyway, you're right.

01:29:04.600 Okay, we'll see you in half an hour, folks.

01:29:06.320 Take care.

01:29:06.640 Take care.

01:29:06.700 Take care.

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