The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1248

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 1248 for September 9th, 2025.

00:00:08.000 I'm your host, Luca, joined today by Beau and Firas. Good to see you both.

00:00:13.420 And today we're going to be discussing reform's latest embarrassment,

00:00:18.380 just the latest embarrassment to come out of reform.

00:00:21.280 We're then going to be talking about the fall of the French government, again, another one.

00:00:27.680 And then we're going to be talking about your patriotic duty to boycott bad businesses.

00:00:34.540 So, with that said, before we get into the first segment,

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00:01:03.800 And with that, shall we discuss reform?

00:01:07.440 So, it was Reform Party Conference last weekend.

00:01:12.780 Not the most eventful thing, to be honest with you.

00:01:15.420 We're very much at the point now, it seems, where we know what they're all about, right?

00:01:20.560 We know the flavour of party that we're getting from reform,

00:01:24.100 and the answer to that flavour is, of course, not a very impressive one.

00:01:28.300 But you have...

00:01:30.380 It was certainly hyped up because, as Zia Yusuf says here,

00:01:33.620 As Prime Minister, Nigel will assemble galactic-level talent in the first reform cabinet,

00:01:41.860 many of whom won't be MPs.

00:01:43.920 The era of the likes of Miliband, Hancock and Reeves making the most important decisions in the land will be over.

00:01:51.300 We need the best, including from outside politics.

00:01:56.260 So, we're obviously looking at an American-style system here.

00:02:00.980 I think more importantly than that, if you have this talent ready to serve you,

00:02:06.340 why not run them for Parliament anyway?

00:02:09.200 Well, that's a good question as well.

00:02:10.860 If you've got this pool of talent, why are you going to hide them during the election campaign,

00:02:16.440 only to reveal them after, presumably, you've won?

00:02:19.980 Aha, here we are.

00:02:21.680 I had all this talent, but I didn't let them run as MPs.

00:02:24.240 I don't understand the mindset behind it or the point,

00:02:28.660 unless it's a way to make sure that they are there only to serve Faraj personally,

00:02:36.940 in which case, that's interesting, but that's a bit worrying.

00:02:42.380 And he should be a little bit more open about what he's planning to do.

00:02:45.940 Well, I thought you had to be an MP in order to be in Cabinet.

00:02:50.360 Well, we don't have to be an MP, we could be a Lord.

00:02:52.840 Can you be entirely unelected and be on the front bench?

00:02:55.860 How does that work?

00:02:57.680 Well, I suspect even if that's not the case,

00:03:00.040 it will simply, obviously, pass a bill through the House of Commons in order to make it happen.

00:03:04.980 This is obviously just something that Nigel has the intent to do.

00:03:08.740 Yeah.

00:03:09.360 Right.

00:03:10.120 And what's more, again, it does speak to the fact that, yes,

00:03:13.840 I'm not denying that there has been a shocking standard of Cabinet of late.

00:03:19.280 Right.

00:03:19.880 Most of my lifetime, in fact.

00:03:21.780 But really, as you say, I very much agree with your point, Firas.

00:03:27.840 But when Yusuf is talking about galactic level talent, right?

00:03:35.700 Seems a bit hyperbolic.

00:03:37.140 It does mean you're referring to the Right Honourable Nadine Dorries.

00:03:41.640 Right.

00:03:42.360 Right?

00:03:43.720 Not the first person that I would have thought of when I was thinking of the galactic levels of talent

00:03:49.840 that are in our United Kingdom.

00:03:52.940 But what's remarkable here as well is that, and keep this one in your memory,

00:03:57.680 Hurst just saying the Tories are finished, right?

00:04:00.400 And then she obviously says they do not deserve your loyalty.

00:04:03.480 So now you simply have to support reform, right?

00:04:07.360 But the problem is, we've seen this time and time again,

00:04:10.560 it seems that anyone actually sensible, anyone genuinely patriotic,

00:04:16.180 anyone like Ben Habib, like Rupert Lowe, these sorts of people,

00:04:20.520 they have no place in reform.

00:04:22.620 People who do have a place in reform are...

00:04:26.600 Tory has-beens?

00:04:27.580 Tory has-beens, right?

00:04:28.760 Who would have ever given Nadine Dorries another thought?

00:04:33.540 Would you have thought about it ever again?

00:04:36.040 If she hadn't have been forced into your face right now?

00:04:40.680 Exactly.

00:04:41.420 With Raj saying, welcome back, Nadine.

00:04:43.940 Welcome back to the limelight.

00:04:46.020 Let's get Virginia Bottomley back out of retirement.

00:04:48.560 Who?

00:04:49.060 Exactly.

00:04:51.440 Tory has-been.

00:04:52.720 Oh, right.

00:04:53.100 Okay.

00:04:53.740 I'm joking.

00:04:54.440 Well, yeah, I'm glad you are.

00:04:57.180 But get this, this is just remarkable.

00:04:59.840 I'll play this clip from Farage introducing her at the conference.

00:05:02.520 That is why I'm pleased to welcome today to the stage

00:05:05.480 a woman who was served in cabinet as culture secretary,

00:05:10.540 a woman who was sold three and a half million books,

00:05:14.640 a woman who has been on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here.

00:05:19.540 Somebody from the real world who's worked their way up,

00:05:26.960 been incredibly successful,

00:05:28.800 who actually crosses the boundaries from politician into celebrity.

00:05:34.160 And I'm delighted that we're going to have the experience,

00:05:37.760 the talent, the hard work, and the loyalty of the Dean Dorries.

00:05:42.440 That is why I'm pleased to welcome today to the stage.

00:05:45.100 So she just defects from her previous party and what he's praising is her loyalty?

00:05:52.160 Yeah.

00:05:52.820 Yeah.

00:05:53.200 Okay.

00:05:53.800 Yes, more or less.

00:05:54.900 Interesting.

00:05:55.440 And that list of accomplishments that she's sold three million books,

00:05:58.460 well, I mean, Posh Spice has sold millions of books.

00:06:00.840 She's semi-illiterate.

00:06:02.480 Should we give her a cabinet position?

00:06:04.000 Been on Celebrity Jungle or whatever it is.

00:06:07.100 Like, that means nothing.

00:06:08.160 No.

00:06:08.420 That means nothing to me.

00:06:09.120 That's not serious.

00:06:10.540 Been in cabinet.

00:06:11.320 Not necessarily, in and of itself, there's something good.

00:06:15.540 Especially when that cabinet was Boris Johnson's cabinet.

00:06:19.280 Quite.

00:06:20.080 They're fully leaning into the sort of BoomerCon event as reform.

00:06:26.260 Between her and...

00:06:28.000 Have you got Andrea Jenkins singing?

00:06:30.080 I didn't want to inflict it upon that one.

00:06:32.380 Thank you.

00:06:32.780 Um, I mean, between those two, it's sort of, what?

00:06:37.240 Why?

00:06:38.420 I mean, if you're going to do this, you might as well beg Jenrick to join you.

00:06:42.100 Because at least now, these days, he's saying things that are interesting and are sensible.

00:06:48.300 But what he wants from these has-beens is precisely their dependence on him.

00:06:53.920 Whereas Jenrick is a contender for not just the leadership of the conservatives,

00:06:58.980 but also, if he were to join to reform, potentially for reform.

00:07:03.280 So, this is the style of Nigel, where he just doesn't want anybody who is potentially a threat.

00:07:11.480 And it's this obsession with staying in control that makes him a bit dangerous.

00:07:18.280 And I understand, because, you know, fighting through what he was fighting through in the early days,

00:07:23.900 there were a lot of loons that he wanted to keep away.

00:07:26.220 But he successfully kept away of a big number of very capable and talented people as well.

00:07:33.280 And that was more deliberate.

00:07:35.900 So...

00:07:36.220 Well, exactly.

00:07:38.300 Nadine Dorries.

00:07:39.520 No one was ever going to...

00:07:41.940 Nadine Dorries was never going to be an influence in Parliament ever again.

00:07:47.060 Were it not that she jumped to the ship of reform.

00:07:49.540 And now that she's in reform,

00:07:51.160 she owes that, I use the word relevance in the loosest possible sense,

00:07:56.680 that relevance solely to Nigel.

00:07:58.940 Yeah.

00:07:59.220 And so, she will toe the line.

00:08:01.660 And let's just face it as well.

00:08:04.020 The fact that the only reason that Nadine Dorries was ever in Boris Johnson's cabinet

00:08:10.420 was not because of any legendary skill that she had.

00:08:15.180 It was because she was a total sycophant.

00:08:18.700 Right?

00:08:19.400 It was because she was just going to do whatever Boris told her to do.

00:08:23.200 Yeah.

00:08:23.500 Because actually, more than any party,

00:08:25.760 the person that Nadine seems most loyal to is Boris Johnson.

00:08:30.740 Still, to this day.

00:08:33.820 Which is disgusting.

00:08:35.420 Yeah.

00:08:35.920 Because Boris Johnson is possibly the greatest traitor.

00:08:40.780 Possibly the greatest traitor.

00:08:41.780 More than Blair, in some way.

00:08:44.060 Because Boris said that he would do one thing,

00:08:47.640 fulfill the promises of Brexit.

00:08:49.860 Yes.

00:08:50.540 And totally stabbed us.

00:08:52.260 On every issue.

00:08:53.940 Every single issue.

00:08:56.420 And so, let's not forget as well,

00:08:58.020 Nadine Dorries' great contribution to politics.

00:09:02.400 Which was, of course, the Online Safety Act.

00:09:04.740 This was something that she was really pushing for.

00:09:08.040 And also, let's not forget,

00:09:09.320 she was a huge advocate of the lockdowns.

00:09:12.160 Yes.

00:09:12.840 Very zealous advocate of lockdowns as well.

00:09:15.720 And I will never let anyone offer that.

00:09:18.800 Whatsoever.

00:09:20.280 Whatsoever.

00:09:21.300 If that is something that they proudly attach to their name at the time,

00:09:25.840 they deserve to be recognised for that forever.

00:09:28.440 Yes.

00:09:28.680 For the rest of their lives.

00:09:29.760 Right.

00:09:29.920 Well, this gets to the criticism that reform are just basically Tory 2.0.

00:09:35.220 Teal Tory.

00:09:36.580 And this just sort of...

00:09:39.880 It's sort of the last nail in the coffin on that argument,

00:09:43.760 that they obviously are.

00:09:45.420 Right.

00:09:45.940 I give Nigel some credit for insisting,

00:09:49.100 and I believe him on this,

00:09:50.020 insisting that he won't allow reform to be subsumed into the Tory party.

00:09:54.380 Okay, fine.

00:09:55.120 That he won't make a pact with the Tories,

00:09:57.560 like after the election,

00:09:59.100 to form a coalition government.

00:10:00.480 We'll see about that.

00:10:01.240 But he seems pretty hard-line that he won't do that.

00:10:03.420 So credit there.

00:10:04.900 But the idea that you just take in endless Tories,

00:10:07.380 someone like Nadine Dorris,

00:10:08.880 that it's just sort of a no-brainer,

00:10:10.300 that he'll sing it from the rooftops.

00:10:12.040 I mean, that's all you need to know right there, right?

00:10:15.320 I'm sure there are a few capable ones

00:10:16.640 that he should be working on in Parliament.

00:10:19.380 I'm sure there are a few that he should be working on instead.

00:10:22.160 And I'm sure that they see the writing on the wall

00:10:23.860 when it comes to the future of the Conservative Party.

00:10:25.700 So at least try to...

00:10:29.540 If you're going to work on getting Tories on board,

00:10:32.100 fair enough, you should build alliances.

00:10:35.000 But go for competence, not Nadine Dorris.

00:10:37.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:39.180 But she's been on some celebrity reality TV show.

00:10:42.500 That's something that you've seen from the rooftops again.

00:10:45.800 It's like, really?

00:10:47.400 It's a strange way of pursuing the pensioner vote.

00:10:51.780 But it also misidentifies the nature of the political problem.

00:10:54.800 The nature of the political problem

00:10:56.540 is that young men in this country have zero opportunities.

00:11:00.360 And that is why you're seeing this anger

00:11:02.940 and that is why you're seeing this reaction.

00:11:05.140 And so trying to appeal even harder to pensioners

00:11:08.420 isn't going to solve any of the structural issues

00:11:11.700 that are keeping young men from getting married,

00:11:14.380 forming families, owning houses, having good-paying jobs.

00:11:16.960 Like, it completely misses the central political problem

00:11:24.460 facing not just Britain, but pretty much all of Western Europe.

00:11:28.180 That's what he's missing.

00:11:29.660 I think people want, certainly we want,

00:11:32.380 and I think a lot of people in just the general public want,

00:11:35.240 if the last general election in its instant go by

00:11:37.200 and the Tories collapse at the ballot box

00:11:39.580 at the last general election,

00:11:40.960 they don't want more of the same.

00:11:42.760 They don't want a Tory 2.0.

00:11:44.980 They want something fairly radically different.

00:11:48.320 So to be packing your own ranks with that

00:11:51.340 is, it doesn't seem like it's the best strategy to me.

00:11:56.500 I think he needs a couple of reliable voices

00:11:59.380 to sort of be able to do the Sunday morning shows

00:12:03.200 and to be able to sort of defend the government as necessary.

00:12:07.060 And so that kind of explains Jenkins and now Dory's.

00:12:13.860 Fair enough.

00:12:15.680 I'm willing to be a little bit tolerant,

00:12:18.280 but you have to offer us some red meat.

00:12:22.980 And what red meat gets thrown out

00:12:26.060 just seems to be entirely set by arbitrary precedent.

00:12:30.280 Yes.

00:12:30.640 Based on just what Nigel feels is safe ground at this point

00:12:34.560 to throw out, you know, it's Rupert going out there

00:12:38.580 doing all the hard work.

00:12:41.040 Yes.

00:12:41.360 You know, just shifting the discourse in Parliament,

00:12:43.960 pushing on the issues that those MPs sitting there

00:12:46.680 don't want to touch.

00:12:47.720 And again, maybe this is a valid electoral strategy.

00:12:50.300 Don't take the risks.

00:12:51.320 See what the public receives well.

00:12:52.980 And if the public receives it well,

00:12:54.680 then adopt it as your policy.

00:12:56.460 So I understand the caution,

00:13:00.860 but can we get some substance, please?

00:13:04.560 Right.

00:13:04.940 And that's what we're not getting.

00:13:06.420 And it will never come from the likes of Nettie Dory's.

00:13:08.580 And it will never come from the sort of,

00:13:11.180 what is it, Andrea Jenkins just singing at the,

00:13:15.000 you know, it's like you do not understand how desperate,

00:13:17.140 how late the hour is,

00:13:18.780 like how deep the struggle is at this point.

00:13:20.660 Yes.

00:13:21.080 We are heading towards ruin.

00:13:23.360 Yes.

00:13:24.480 I mean, Nigel's strategy used the word caution.

00:13:26.740 Yeah, it's very cautious.

00:13:28.040 It's very cautious.

00:13:28.840 So people accuse him of being a follower, not a leader.

00:13:31.860 We really need a leader.

00:13:33.860 I'd really like to see a leader.

00:13:34.680 They may be ahead in the polls,

00:13:36.560 but I feel like they'd be twice as far ahead in the polls

00:13:39.740 if he was sort of a bit more radical and a true leader.

00:13:44.100 Yeah, if reform was led by Lowe

00:13:45.860 and he had that platform and these seats in parliament,

00:13:49.080 you could easily see them on 40% today.

00:13:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:51.840 Or more, or more.

00:13:52.880 All right.

00:13:53.140 Falling on 45% today, easily.

00:13:55.620 It's interesting, actually,

00:13:56.720 because I watched Farage's concluding comments

00:14:00.300 from this conference.

00:14:02.100 And he was talking about,

00:14:03.400 apparently they'd had one of the former Canadian

00:14:06.720 members of parliament over

00:14:08.320 from when they had that experiment in the 90s

00:14:10.920 and they managed to flip the board

00:14:12.300 and get their new party in.

00:14:14.500 And he was talking about the fact that,

00:14:16.040 well, their success was all bound up

00:14:18.420 in having their disagreements in private, right?

00:14:21.840 And Nigel was really forcing this onto the audience.

00:14:25.640 I don't contradict the line in public.

00:14:31.060 I don't.

00:14:33.320 If he hadn't been saying things in public

00:14:37.500 such as there can be no conflict with Islam

00:14:40.520 in Britain.

00:14:41.800 And if he hadn't been saying things like

00:14:46.820 zero net migration,

00:14:49.220 I would have appreciated that to some extent.

00:14:54.000 But what is obvious is that negative migration is needed

00:14:58.280 and that there is a conflict with Islam.

00:15:01.680 Now he said, I think,

00:15:03.100 that he's going to prescribe the Muslim Brotherhood,

00:15:05.780 which is a good idea.

00:15:07.220 But if you prescribe the Muslim Brotherhood

00:15:09.140 without first thinning the numbers,

00:15:11.280 you're going to end up with riots on the streets.

00:15:13.760 Absolutely.

00:15:14.480 Because they are sufficiently well organized

00:15:16.760 to cause a serious problem.

00:15:18.400 So you want to have negative migration

00:15:21.960 for a couple of years

00:15:23.640 and then prescribe it

00:15:24.960 in order to improve your own standing.

00:15:28.560 You want to have a reformed police force

00:15:31.760 and then prescribe it.

00:15:33.020 But you can't just do these kinds of things

00:15:36.140 without having thought of them.

00:15:38.500 And the fact that he is makes me think

00:15:40.460 that it must be maybe Emirati money,

00:15:42.800 maybe Israeli money

00:15:44.480 that's trying to tell him,

00:15:46.100 well, this is a priority now.

00:15:48.080 When in reality,

00:15:49.080 the problem isn't the Muslim Brotherhood

00:15:50.900 because they can just rebrand very quickly

00:15:52.660 and say it's a different organization now.

00:15:55.120 The problem is the numbers themselves

00:15:56.900 that therefore show up in institutions

00:15:58.640 such as the Home Office Muslim Network,

00:16:03.180 such as the Civil Service Muslim Network,

00:16:05.140 et cetera, et cetera.

00:16:07.040 Indeed.

00:16:07.780 And what's more as well,

00:16:08.780 sometimes it's just very important

00:16:10.660 to have these conversations in public,

00:16:13.660 in front of the public.

00:16:15.180 And this is exactly what you got with Lowe.

00:16:17.620 By Lowe challenging saying,

00:16:18.920 you're not going far enough,

00:16:20.060 you're not.

00:16:20.840 And Farage observing the fact,

00:16:23.720 I mean, particularly with Elon Musk,

00:16:25.200 but also with a faction of the British public as well,

00:16:29.060 that there was a big enough part

00:16:32.480 that was sympathetic to Lowe's position, right?

00:16:36.400 It shows a challenge to your power,

00:16:38.760 which wouldn't be a problem

00:16:39.780 if you were willing to accept that reality.

00:16:46.140 Yes.

00:16:46.480 That there was that part of the public

00:16:48.100 that you weren't acknowledging

00:16:49.260 and you weren't addressing their concerns.

00:16:51.780 Nigel doesn't want to address their concerns

00:16:53.800 and you have this entire thing

00:16:55.600 where it is obviously a containment trap

00:16:58.160 in order to,

00:16:59.640 it's the last ditch effort to save the system

00:17:01.840 as it still stands.

00:17:03.820 And if the last point that I'd make,

00:17:05.120 sorry to interrupt,

00:17:06.020 the last point that I'd make is that

00:17:07.600 if the disagreements are delayed

00:17:10.620 until he's in government,

00:17:12.780 then you end up with fighting on the front benches

00:17:16.880 and different policy propositions

00:17:19.340 from people on the front benches.

00:17:20.500 You're better off disagreeing today

00:17:22.720 and formulating proper policy

00:17:24.220 so that you can actually implement it

00:17:26.340 when you get in.

00:17:26.920 Because when you get in exactly like Labour,

00:17:29.540 exactly like Boris Johnson,

00:17:30.660 he's going to have a very short honeymoon.

00:17:33.520 People are very fed up with the system as a system.

00:17:37.340 And they went with Boris to sort of change the system

00:17:41.440 and then Starmer won to change the system.

00:17:45.040 Farah is going to win to change the system.

00:17:47.280 If he doesn't have a plan,

00:17:50.520 it's really curtains.

00:17:52.760 And it's really violence on the streets.

00:17:55.180 And this is what he's not understanding.

00:17:56.740 And it's possibly a default or a currency crash.

00:18:00.440 So this sort of,

00:18:02.780 no, we can't discuss this publicly.

00:18:04.380 We have to keep it in the family.

00:18:05.840 Look, you don't have a plan here.

00:18:07.820 You haven't said,

00:18:08.520 how are you going to fix the economy?

00:18:09.560 You haven't said,

00:18:10.000 how are you going to fix the immigration system?

00:18:11.240 You haven't said what you're going to do

00:18:12.600 that actually makes things function.

00:18:15.960 So yeah,

00:18:16.940 there need to be disagreements today

00:18:18.820 so that when you govern,

00:18:20.380 you know what you're implementing.

00:18:21.740 As opposed to,

00:18:22.760 you're sniping at each other from the front benches

00:18:24.760 and it's a complete disaster

00:18:26.400 and you end up exactly in the same position

00:18:28.180 that the Conservatives were in

00:18:29.880 in the last few years.

00:18:33.520 Plus as well,

00:18:34.540 we live in the world we live in.

00:18:36.140 It's not a Politburo.

00:18:38.280 It's not like a military junta from the 70s.

00:18:41.900 People in the reform leadership team

00:18:45.960 can and will brief with journalists

00:18:49.260 if they want to,

00:18:50.060 if they decide it's in their best interest.

00:18:52.180 And then it is out in the public

00:18:53.280 even if you are having the private conversations.

00:18:55.740 So that is still a thing.

00:18:58.280 Yes.

00:18:59.000 So, well,

00:19:00.900 reality of it, isn't it?

00:19:02.540 But then you get just ridiculous things like this.

00:19:04.680 As you say,

00:19:05.360 Reform UK vows to repeal

00:19:07.580 the borderline dystopian

00:19:09.300 Online Safety Act.

00:19:10.540 Okay.

00:19:11.400 Good idea.

00:19:12.660 But then why are you bringing in its architect?

00:19:15.980 Yeah.

00:19:16.220 Right?

00:19:16.700 So why are you inviting the architect of it

00:19:19.180 into your party?

00:19:20.740 I imagine the calculation is simply

00:19:22.640 that she's a named entity.

00:19:25.040 Yes.

00:19:25.440 Right.

00:19:26.220 And isn't completely disgraced.

00:19:27.960 Although anyone that knows about her

00:19:29.760 and her record

00:19:30.340 won't be all that impressed.

00:19:32.220 But the point is

00:19:33.120 your average person

00:19:34.280 that doesn't pay much attention

00:19:35.600 at all to politics really

00:19:36.580 will probably have heard the name before.

00:19:39.360 And that's it.

00:19:41.060 That's about as deep as the calculation goes.

00:19:43.220 You can put her on television to defend you.

00:19:45.300 Right.

00:19:45.660 That's her main utility.

00:19:46.880 Yeah.

00:19:47.340 You can...

00:19:48.460 She's tested in front of the cameras.

00:19:50.560 You can put her on television to defend you.

00:19:52.520 She did a...

00:19:53.500 She did that for Boris.

00:19:54.760 She'll do that for him.

00:19:56.280 That's what he's after

00:19:57.220 because if these guys end up with 400 MPs

00:20:00.760 given how they're running now,

00:20:02.580 who are these guys going to be

00:20:04.360 given that they keep punching down

00:20:06.000 on their own talent pool?

00:20:08.540 So that he's going to need

00:20:10.120 these kinds of media figures

00:20:12.500 that you can put in front of the press.

00:20:15.540 And that's what he's...

00:20:17.020 And that is of value just to say

00:20:18.740 that someone that is a tried and tested entity

00:20:20.880 that can go on Laura Koenigsberg

00:20:22.540 and hold her own just about.

00:20:24.840 But that is a value.

00:20:26.160 Yeah.

00:20:26.680 I mean, I hate Nadine Dorries,

00:20:28.180 but there you go.

00:20:29.180 She is capable of that at least.

00:20:31.800 Yes, quite.

00:20:32.240 Yes.

00:20:32.420 It's a fair point.

00:20:34.120 Well, I'll come to it.

00:20:35.760 But you have people like

00:20:37.540 Reform Councillor Lila Cunningham

00:20:40.080 and Cunningham is one of those other people

00:20:42.200 whose name is just started to emerge

00:20:44.540 in the past few months or so

00:20:45.860 because Farage has looked at

00:20:49.500 Trump's success in America

00:20:51.640 and he realises that he does need

00:20:53.960 not just his own name,

00:20:55.060 but many recognisable names.

00:20:57.100 And Cunningham is one that he is trying

00:20:59.100 to make recognisable, right?

00:21:00.800 She's one of the people

00:21:01.800 who's starting to do the media rounds.

00:21:03.700 You can see she's on talk TV.

00:21:05.260 She goes on GB News, right?

00:21:06.980 So we're trying to get her face out there.

00:21:08.800 And even she's just like,

00:21:09.940 maybe we shouldn't have Nadine Dorries

00:21:12.200 in the party.

00:21:13.800 Why is she here, right?

00:21:15.480 So already, we're like,

00:21:17.680 it's, I mean, no, no, it's just,

00:21:19.700 I have no affection for Cunningham in this.

00:21:22.220 You know, she's not, I've no,

00:21:24.700 she's not my,

00:21:26.020 I'm not supporting her or the party.

00:21:28.940 But the fact is that

00:21:30.400 you can already see the dissent in there

00:21:32.180 because this was obviously

00:21:33.340 just a unilateral decision from Nigel.

00:21:36.040 That just, no, we're going to have Nadine.

00:21:38.560 And you just have to go along with that.

00:21:41.120 And we won't have any public debate

00:21:42.620 on this whatsoever.

00:21:44.060 It's just...

00:21:45.240 I would just very quickly say

00:21:46.440 that that is kind of de rigueur

00:21:48.180 for political parties.

00:21:49.660 It's not that Nigel is particularly

00:21:51.420 more tyrannical than any other party leader.

00:21:53.520 It's kind of how it's usually done.

00:21:55.700 Yes.

00:21:56.240 That is kind of how it's usually done.

00:21:57.800 The leader gets the last say

00:22:00.000 on nearly everything if he wants it.

00:22:01.600 Yes.

00:22:02.260 So...

00:22:02.780 Sure.

00:22:03.640 But yeah, Nigel...

00:22:04.960 No one really likes this decision.

00:22:07.740 Optically, it's a bad decision.

00:22:09.140 Yeah, it doesn't seem to be, yeah.

00:22:11.920 Especially when you have...

00:22:13.500 So as soon as she's now in here,

00:22:16.780 Nadine's saying,

00:22:17.480 well, we just need to bring more Tories over.

00:22:20.580 You know, like,

00:22:21.240 well, I jumped ship,

00:22:22.760 you can jump ship too.

00:22:24.360 And now we've just got the ship of Theseus

00:22:26.100 where every plank of reform

00:22:27.620 has just been replaced

00:22:29.340 with a Tory plank of wood.

00:22:31.060 And my God,

00:22:31.800 aren't they planks of wood?

00:22:33.000 And so we're in a position now,

00:22:35.480 but obviously most...

00:22:37.780 And let's not forget as well

00:22:39.320 that Nadine wrote this back in March

00:22:42.260 where she basically tried to write a hit piece

00:22:44.360 on Rupert Lowe.

00:22:45.640 So there's her credentials

00:22:47.040 for why she deserves to be in reform,

00:22:49.280 if ever there was one.

00:22:51.180 And it's fantastic this,

00:22:53.120 because she says,

00:22:54.040 I'll say at the outset

00:22:55.460 that I have no time for Lowe,

00:22:57.200 who is perhaps the most far-right MP

00:22:59.560 in the whole of Westminster.

00:23:01.160 And she says he thinks

00:23:02.820 that entire non-Indigenous communities

00:23:04.880 in the UK should be deported.

00:23:07.460 Yeah.

00:23:08.080 And that includes people who were born here.

00:23:11.020 And she also says,

00:23:12.640 and he also believes

00:23:13.720 that illegal immigrants

00:23:14.900 should be sent to insect-ridden

00:23:16.980 internment camps.

00:23:19.500 Right.

00:23:20.060 Which has now become government policy

00:23:22.320 to sort of...

00:23:23.080 Where is the objection?

00:23:24.980 Jen Riggers...

00:23:25.900 Yeah.

00:23:26.320 Right.

00:23:26.840 What's the insect-ridden thing?

00:23:28.580 What's that?

00:23:29.020 Oh, he was just saying

00:23:29.860 they shouldn't be in the hotels,

00:23:31.560 they should be in tents.

00:23:33.000 Okay.

00:23:33.400 And he was just talking about...

00:23:34.700 He was just using...

00:23:35.520 I think the...

00:23:36.540 Insects are a side effect.

00:23:38.960 Right.

00:23:39.900 It's not find the place

00:23:41.300 with the most insects

00:23:42.300 and put them there.

00:23:43.320 The sickening threat Rupert Lowe made,

00:23:45.180 what, that was shown to not be...

00:23:47.100 It was shown to be fiction.

00:23:48.060 Right.

00:23:48.240 Obviously,

00:23:48.800 acquitted by the police.

00:23:50.060 That one.

00:23:50.480 All the rest of it.

00:23:51.420 Pretty much.

00:23:51.920 So there's no place for Rupert

00:23:54.080 in reform,

00:23:55.500 but there absolutely is a place

00:23:57.040 for Boris Johnson,

00:23:58.160 wouldn't you know?

00:23:59.560 And so Boris Johnson

00:24:01.220 and Nigel Farage

00:24:02.000 must unite

00:24:03.080 to crush Labour

00:24:04.300 for the good of the country.

00:24:06.160 Absolutely bloody not.

00:24:08.420 Right.

00:24:09.160 Absolutely not.

00:24:10.740 If Boris Johnson

00:24:11.580 ever comes back,

00:24:13.660 then we're buggered.

00:24:15.720 Right.

00:24:16.000 It's just...

00:24:17.080 He was the worst.

00:24:18.100 The absolute worst.

00:24:19.740 And the fact that

00:24:20.820 Nadine Dorries

00:24:22.200 can't even understand

00:24:24.060 how much of a traitor

00:24:26.620 he was.

00:24:27.620 She even says

00:24:28.460 in this exact interview,

00:24:29.720 she says,

00:24:30.220 I'll always have his back.

00:24:32.580 Oh, well, fine.

00:24:34.240 Right.

00:24:34.840 I'll always have his back.

00:24:36.400 Don't worry about

00:24:36.880 the double crime

00:24:37.740 of the lockdowns

00:24:38.760 and the Boris wave.

00:24:39.900 Don't worry about that.

00:24:41.940 Two of the most

00:24:42.860 unparalleled crimes

00:24:44.540 against...

00:24:45.100 Crazy, crazy.

00:24:45.560 ...the people

00:24:46.040 of these islands.

00:24:46.780 Don't worry about that.

00:24:49.060 She's got his back.

00:24:50.240 Oh, good for you.

00:24:52.060 Good for you.

00:24:52.940 It's leniency.

00:24:53.780 But also,

00:24:54.440 it's totally...

00:24:55.340 It's a total

00:24:55.960 political miscalculation.

00:24:57.900 Boris Johnson

00:24:58.580 and Nigel

00:24:59.080 must unite

00:24:59.860 to crush Labour.

00:25:00.860 Labour are already

00:25:01.860 getting crushed.

00:25:03.080 They're crushed.

00:25:03.780 Right?

00:25:04.060 They're already

00:25:04.520 getting crushed.

00:25:05.120 That's it.

00:25:05.320 They're already

00:25:05.740 going to lose

00:25:06.380 the next election.

00:25:07.580 Yeah.

00:25:07.780 And as things stand

00:25:08.620 to reform,

00:25:09.120 we're just going to

00:25:09.660 win the election.

00:25:11.140 So why do I need Boris?

00:25:12.820 Why do I need the Tories?

00:25:13.800 Why do I need anyone?

00:25:15.660 You know,

00:25:16.100 for all my criticisms

00:25:17.320 of reform,

00:25:19.320 it does kind of

00:25:20.420 almost look like

00:25:21.540 a given now

00:25:22.580 because there is

00:25:23.260 just such dissatisfaction

00:25:24.900 with the other

00:25:26.000 two parties.

00:25:26.980 Yes.

00:25:27.960 And even if Nigel

00:25:29.320 is sort of shifting

00:25:30.620 the old guard

00:25:32.160 through the new door,

00:25:34.080 right,

00:25:34.400 of the old Tory government

00:25:35.740 and all their

00:25:37.540 backbenches and things

00:25:38.720 and councillors

00:25:39.840 and so on

00:25:40.360 and so many

00:25:40.920 defectors,

00:25:41.980 right,

00:25:42.420 it's still a different,

00:25:43.560 it's got a different name

00:25:44.740 and so...

00:25:46.420 To be fair,

00:25:47.920 despite what

00:25:48.820 Nadine says

00:25:50.480 and thinks,

00:25:51.620 I'm pretty sure

00:25:52.640 Nigel and Zia

00:25:53.600 have come out

00:25:54.840 and firmly said

00:25:55.860 no way.

00:25:56.780 Yeah, they did.

00:25:57.180 I've seen Zia say

00:25:58.480 absolutely not

00:26:00.080 to Boris.

00:26:00.780 They did say this.

00:26:01.560 So there is that.

00:26:02.480 They did say this

00:26:03.300 but the problem

00:26:04.480 with that is

00:26:05.240 it's like,

00:26:05.680 okay,

00:26:06.020 but why is there

00:26:07.300 such a dramatic

00:26:07.940 difference

00:26:08.520 between taking

00:26:09.780 Boris on

00:26:10.860 and taking

00:26:11.840 all of his

00:26:12.920 acolytes?

00:26:13.660 Yes.

00:26:14.640 That's a fair point.

00:26:15.540 At what point

00:26:16.180 why are you

00:26:17.560 deciding that

00:26:18.340 that's where

00:26:18.820 you're drawing

00:26:19.220 the line?

00:26:19.920 Because you're

00:26:20.460 already taking

00:26:21.080 in people

00:26:21.660 who were

00:26:22.260 absolutely

00:26:23.240 loyal to him

00:26:24.040 to a fault,

00:26:24.920 who agreed

00:26:25.460 and would go

00:26:26.140 along with

00:26:26.680 every policy

00:26:27.500 he put forward.

00:26:28.520 Pretty much.

00:26:28.920 So what's

00:26:29.740 the difference

00:26:30.160 between just

00:26:30.680 getting Johnson

00:26:31.300 himself on

00:26:32.000 at that point?

00:26:33.040 It's just

00:26:33.560 because he was

00:26:34.020 the head shed,

00:26:36.240 right?

00:26:36.580 He was the figure

00:26:37.480 head.

00:26:37.800 He was the

00:26:38.200 actual PM.

00:26:38.960 But I get it.

00:26:39.420 Yeah, you'll

00:26:39.740 take anyone

00:26:40.360 and everyone

00:26:40.800 up to the

00:26:41.360 point but

00:26:41.720 Boris himself

00:26:43.120 is beyond the

00:26:43.880 pale.

00:26:44.480 I mean...

00:26:45.260 Because again,

00:26:45.940 Boris would be

00:26:46.580 a threat to

00:26:47.200 Nigel

00:26:47.620 in the scenario

00:26:49.420 and therefore...

00:26:51.120 Yeah.

00:26:51.560 It's...

00:26:52.400 He would be.

00:26:53.120 He's such a big

00:26:53.780 beast despite

00:26:54.980 everything.

00:26:55.780 He's still got

00:26:56.200 loyalists.

00:26:56.800 I see people

00:26:57.180 on Twitter

00:26:57.540 that still...

00:26:58.460 Come back,

00:26:58.900 big man.

00:26:59.260 Come back,

00:26:59.680 boss.

00:27:00.140 We still love

00:27:00.780 you.

00:27:01.080 Some people...

00:27:01.940 Some cretins

00:27:02.660 still say stuff

00:27:04.000 like that.

00:27:05.000 And yeah,

00:27:05.620 he could actually

00:27:06.580 just in and of

00:27:07.380 his own right

00:27:08.060 threaten Nigel

00:27:09.820 for the leadership

00:27:10.500 which, yeah,

00:27:11.720 Nigel obviously

00:27:12.320 won't have.

00:27:13.260 No.

00:27:13.660 So...

00:27:14.020 No.

00:27:15.300 Jacob Rees-Mogg

00:27:16.260 ruled out a

00:27:16.880 defection but

00:27:17.820 I don't particularly

00:27:18.800 trust him and it

00:27:19.580 seems that his

00:27:20.180 children are already

00:27:21.380 signing up to

00:27:22.280 reform as well.

00:27:23.620 So we'll see

00:27:23.960 how that goes.

00:27:24.360 And then just

00:27:25.160 as a fun little

00:27:26.360 note at the end

00:27:27.120 I just wanted to

00:27:28.040 Morrissey far too

00:27:29.760 based to sing at

00:27:31.340 the reform conference.

00:27:33.020 Apparently he was

00:27:33.620 invited to go and

00:27:35.800 sing at the

00:27:36.840 conference and he

00:27:37.540 said, well,

00:27:38.060 I'm apolitical and

00:27:40.360 I've never joined a

00:27:41.140 political party.

00:27:42.420 It's not quite true

00:27:43.460 I believe.

00:27:44.000 I think he was a

00:27:44.640 fan of Britain

00:27:45.080 first.

00:27:46.040 But the point is

00:27:46.780 reform a far too

00:27:48.160 milquetoast for a

00:27:50.440 king like Morrissey.

00:27:51.900 Anyway, so there

00:27:53.500 you are.

00:27:53.820 Now reform is

00:27:54.520 still a total

00:27:55.360 mess.

00:27:56.580 Right.

00:27:56.880 I'll just quickly

00:27:57.700 rumble through the

00:27:59.060 rants.

00:27:59.760 We've got Tom

00:28:01.980 Rat says, I'm a

00:28:03.820 separate government

00:28:04.560 maximalist.

00:28:05.340 I think MPs should

00:28:06.560 put their seat up

00:28:07.620 for by-election

00:28:08.540 when they accept a

00:28:09.880 seat in government

00:28:10.960 and the backbenchers

00:28:12.300 should be a

00:28:13.680 separate entity to

00:28:14.660 government.

00:28:15.580 Got Opunk says,

00:28:16.520 Faraj might not be

00:28:18.340 at war with Islam

00:28:19.180 in Britain but Islam

00:28:20.520 in Britain is at war

00:28:21.480 with him and

00:28:22.580 here's whether he

00:28:23.200 likes it or not.

00:28:24.200 Well, they're not

00:28:25.360 his natural

00:28:25.960 constituency.

00:28:27.500 He goes after

00:28:28.300 everyone who

00:28:28.960 isn't his natural

00:28:29.800 constituency and

00:28:30.900 shun knows who

00:28:31.740 should be his

00:28:32.320 natural ally.

00:28:33.180 It's pretty much

00:28:33.540 the opposite of

00:28:34.020 what Trump did.

00:28:34.880 Right.

00:28:35.740 Exactly.

00:28:36.080 It's actually the

00:28:36.540 opposite of what

00:28:37.000 Trump did.

00:28:37.140 Exactly.

00:28:37.960 Trump turn two

00:28:38.800 was sort of

00:28:39.320 doubling down on

00:28:40.200 his core

00:28:40.580 constituency whereas

00:28:42.000 we're seeing this

00:28:43.720 mess here.

00:28:44.300 He'll do everything

00:28:45.100 that Trump did

00:28:45.860 will have silly

00:28:46.820 reformed baseball

00:28:47.880 caps even though

00:28:48.980 flat caps will be.

00:28:49.220 Except the things

00:28:49.860 that made Trump

00:28:50.360 win.

00:28:50.660 Right.

00:28:51.340 So, yeah.

00:28:52.600 And I'll just read

00:28:54.480 some of the ones

00:28:55.780 from YouTube as

00:28:57.320 well.

00:28:57.660 We've got a

00:28:58.160 testing says,

00:28:59.020 Nigel can't be

00:28:59.720 trusted but

00:29:00.420 everything they've

00:29:01.700 come out with for

00:29:02.300 the past few weeks

00:29:02.940 have been positives

00:29:03.880 other than Tory

00:29:04.880 conversions repealing

00:29:06.280 the OSA,

00:29:07.660 Online Safety Act

00:29:08.560 is vital.

00:29:09.440 I absolutely agree

00:29:10.560 it's vital and

00:29:11.220 they will do

00:29:12.340 some good.

00:29:13.900 Some good will

00:29:15.100 be achieved

00:29:15.820 I've no doubt

00:29:16.660 but also

00:29:18.060 because the base

00:29:19.140 is so low

00:29:19.620 will they lock

00:29:20.380 in the rot

00:29:21.880 as well

00:29:22.740 and make that

00:29:23.840 even more

00:29:24.560 immovable.

00:29:26.340 We've got

00:29:27.060 Val Politics

00:29:27.640 says,

00:29:28.280 how can he

00:29:28.880 manage immigration

00:29:29.760 when he can't

00:29:30.440 control migration

00:29:31.360 to his own

00:29:31.980 party?

00:29:33.480 He backs

00:29:34.420 Tories over

00:29:35.160 reformers

00:29:35.760 and if elected

00:29:36.680 he's just a

00:29:37.520 Thatcherite

00:29:38.160 and will damage

00:29:39.100 the Celtic-Angelo

00:29:41.120 relationship.

00:29:42.340 Kaguya says

00:29:44.700 unfortunate news

00:29:45.780 but a racehorse

00:29:48.360 Haru Araru

00:29:50.220 passed.

00:29:51.040 I don't know

00:29:51.580 anything about

00:29:52.040 racing.

00:29:52.800 Devastating news.

00:29:53.500 Absolutely devastating.

00:29:54.980 Samson informs

00:29:55.820 him this is

00:29:56.240 devastating.

00:29:58.140 I'll take his

00:29:58.960 word.

00:29:59.340 Cheers to you

00:29:59.840 Haru.

00:30:01.760 Reverend says

00:30:02.480 Bo, any plans

00:30:03.620 on doing an

00:30:04.200 epox on the

00:30:04.920 rise and fall

00:30:05.600 of the Swedish

00:30:06.280 Empire?

00:30:07.660 I'm not asking

00:30:08.640 just because I'm

00:30:09.400 Swedish.

00:30:10.060 Our empire did

00:30:10.820 influence the

00:30:11.440 history of Europe

00:30:12.160 in interesting

00:30:12.840 ways while it

00:30:13.600 lasted.

00:30:15.160 No immediate

00:30:16.020 plans because I've

00:30:16.640 got honestly

00:30:17.580 dozens and dozens

00:30:18.420 of things that I've

00:30:19.200 promised people I'll

00:30:19.860 do first but it

00:30:20.900 is a fascinating

00:30:22.520 subject.

00:30:22.900 Hopefully I'll get

00:30:23.420 round to something

00:30:24.440 like that at some

00:30:25.940 point but no

00:30:26.920 immediate plans.

00:30:27.440 Don't hold your

00:30:27.860 breath.

00:30:28.520 I've honestly got

00:30:28.960 dozens and dozens

00:30:29.600 of things in the

00:30:30.220 pipeline that I

00:30:30.860 have to do first

00:30:32.060 but I would and

00:30:33.500 should, will

00:30:34.480 eventually get

00:30:35.300 round to something

00:30:36.020 specifically on

00:30:36.860 Sweden.

00:30:37.140 that's all I can

00:30:38.200 say at this

00:30:38.660 point.

00:30:39.260 Fair enough.

00:30:39.940 Okay.

00:30:40.360 Firas, over to

00:30:41.320 you, sir.

00:30:41.920 Shall we go to

00:30:42.460 the next segment,

00:30:43.680 Samson?

00:30:46.220 Thank you.

00:30:46.760 So, the French

00:30:49.560 have lost their

00:30:50.220 government again.

00:30:53.340 I just wanted to

00:30:54.420 do a quick

00:30:54.940 comparison between

00:30:56.100 what a term of

00:30:58.420 office for a

00:30:58.980 prime minister under

00:31:00.000 the monarchy would

00:31:00.780 be versus what it

00:31:02.200 is now.

00:31:03.120 You see, for

00:31:04.000 example, from

00:31:04.920 1515 to 1541.

00:31:07.560 So, 30-something,

00:31:09.900 36 years in

00:31:11.680 office.

00:31:12.600 Six years in

00:31:13.360 office, that's a

00:31:13.960 short term.

00:31:14.540 Ten years, sometimes

00:31:17.300 20 years, etc.,

00:31:19.260 etc.

00:31:19.580 A lot of them, when

00:31:20.480 they end up with a

00:31:21.220 short term, like just

00:31:22.040 13 years, it's

00:31:22.680 because they died in

00:31:23.500 office.

00:31:24.140 Right.

00:31:24.440 You know?

00:31:26.160 And you see this

00:31:27.300 stability and this

00:31:28.780 power that comes from

00:31:29.800 incumbency because if

00:31:31.800 you've been in office

00:31:32.720 for a long time, you

00:31:33.760 will learn how to

00:31:34.860 manage the ship of

00:31:35.720 state and you

00:31:36.780 you won't be

00:31:37.420 completely at the

00:31:39.260 mercy of silly

00:31:40.060 civil servants.

00:31:41.760 And then you see

00:31:42.840 the introduction of

00:31:44.200 democracy a little

00:31:46.700 bit and more

00:31:47.560 participation for the

00:31:48.540 public and then the

00:31:50.400 government lasts for a

00:31:51.860 year.

00:31:52.920 And this trend

00:31:54.240 continues and it

00:31:56.120 continues.

00:31:57.260 And now it seems

00:31:59.020 that nice Mr.

00:31:59.880 Macron is going to

00:32:01.160 have to appoint a

00:32:02.320 seventh prime

00:32:03.960 minister in a matter

00:32:05.780 of eight years and

00:32:07.060 I think it's five

00:32:08.380 in the last two

00:32:09.120 years.

00:32:10.260 I think it's five

00:32:11.380 prime ministers in the

00:32:12.200 last two years.

00:32:13.160 It's worse than the

00:32:13.840 year of the four

00:32:14.540 emperors, isn't it?

00:32:16.960 Yeah, which shows you

00:32:18.500 that there is a

00:32:20.360 severe dysfunction

00:32:21.720 within the French

00:32:23.660 state because nobody

00:32:24.940 understands what is the

00:32:26.920 French state for.

00:32:27.680 is it there to hold the

00:32:30.960 doors of the borders

00:32:31.760 open and to keep on

00:32:33.700 providing cradle to

00:32:36.360 grave welfare or does

00:32:38.260 it actually have a

00:32:39.460 function beyond that

00:32:40.820 that requires it to, I

00:32:44.160 don't know, maybe

00:32:45.140 worry about the

00:32:46.760 interests of the

00:32:47.640 French people

00:32:48.100 themselves?

00:32:48.600 And you don't see

00:32:51.400 that on display in

00:32:54.000 France.

00:32:54.460 What you see is that

00:32:55.640 there is just complete

00:32:57.560 chaos.

00:32:58.420 They think that the

00:32:59.560 problem is economic

00:33:00.420 and the prime minister

00:33:04.120 Bayrou went as far as

00:33:06.200 to say, no, no, no,

00:33:06.860 the migrants are not

00:33:07.780 part of the problem.

00:33:08.660 They're not the

00:33:09.100 problem.

00:33:10.260 It's just the debt

00:33:11.520 that's the problem.

00:33:12.800 And admittedly, the debt

00:33:14.240 is a huge problem.

00:33:15.140 The debt to GDP ratio of

00:33:16.740 France is something like

00:33:17.720 114%, meaning that it's

00:33:20.760 third behind Italy and

00:33:22.160 Greece.

00:33:22.980 And its long-term bonds

00:33:24.740 are trading at yield

00:33:26.460 levels that are, I

00:33:28.460 think, higher than

00:33:29.440 Italy and Greece.

00:33:30.660 So the markets believe

00:33:32.020 that there is a higher

00:33:32.820 possibility of a French

00:33:33.900 default than of an

00:33:35.660 Italian or a Greek

00:33:36.560 default.

00:33:37.460 That's how bad things

00:33:38.340 are for France.

00:33:40.660 114%?

00:33:41.820 114%.

00:33:42.380 In Britain, it's 100%

00:33:43.740 or 101%.

00:33:45.060 I didn't realize it was

00:33:45.860 that bad in Britain.

00:33:46.540 It's not far behind,

00:33:47.760 actually.

00:33:48.080 It's really bad.

00:33:49.000 It's really, really bad.

00:33:49.900 But still, that...

00:33:50.600 And Spain is somewhere

00:33:51.660 in between, I believe.

00:33:54.020 Germany is like in the

00:33:55.000 60s, I think.

00:33:55.960 Germany is in the

00:33:56.660 high 60s and they've

00:33:57.780 just...

00:33:57.920 Which is still terrible.

00:33:59.000 That's still really

00:33:59.540 quite bad.

00:34:00.460 So 60% used to be the

00:34:02.180 limit for the EU.

00:34:03.120 Just to put all of this

00:34:03.860 in context, to put all

00:34:05.080 of this in context, if

00:34:06.520 you were going to be a

00:34:07.500 good EU government and

00:34:09.180 be allowed to do things

00:34:10.340 like, oh, join the

00:34:11.560 Euro, which will

00:34:12.560 definitely improve your

00:34:13.480 economy, look at Greece

00:34:15.060 today.

00:34:16.280 You had to have a

00:34:17.820 maximum debt to GDP

00:34:19.020 of 60%.

00:34:20.400 And the French are

00:34:22.400 near double that and

00:34:23.900 the Italians and the

00:34:24.740 Greeks are past double.

00:34:27.940 And the Spaniards are

00:34:29.120 not far behind.

00:34:30.520 And the British are

00:34:31.700 catching up.

00:34:33.120 And you had to have a

00:34:34.300 maximum budget deficit

00:34:35.600 of 3% on the

00:34:37.920 assumption that maybe

00:34:38.900 you could achieve

00:34:39.760 growth of 4%.

00:34:41.140 So if the growth is

00:34:42.980 higher than the

00:34:43.660 deficit, then your

00:34:45.060 total debt to GDP

00:34:46.300 ratio is shrinking

00:34:47.720 because the denominator

00:34:49.780 is growing faster than

00:34:50.960 the numerator.

00:34:52.080 So fair enough.

00:34:53.440 Now with France, the

00:34:54.860 budget deficit is around

00:34:55.920 6%, which is a

00:34:58.780 disaster, especially in

00:35:00.480 peacetime.

00:35:01.740 They're not facing an

00:35:03.640 immediate financial

00:35:04.560 crisis.

00:35:06.180 Although one is coming,

00:35:07.820 obviously.

00:35:08.140 they're not falling

00:35:09.580 apart right now.

00:35:12.340 But with 6% debt to

00:35:14.560 GDP, sorry, with 6%

00:35:16.660 budget deficit, which

00:35:18.220 tells you how much

00:35:19.400 more you're spending

00:35:21.340 than you're making.

00:35:23.420 And with 114% debt to

00:35:27.900 GDP, it means that if

00:35:29.680 there is an economic

00:35:30.740 crisis, the French

00:35:33.120 government is too broke

00:35:34.360 to do anything about

00:35:35.200 it, other than

00:35:37.780 dramatically cut

00:35:38.600 spending.

00:35:40.080 Which they can't,

00:35:41.140 isn't the last three

00:35:42.020 governments have fallen

00:35:43.560 because of that.

00:35:45.280 They've tried to reduce

00:35:46.360 spending.

00:35:47.760 Precisely.

00:35:48.200 And it can't get done

00:35:49.660 and the government

00:35:50.260 falls.

00:35:50.660 They bring in a new

00:35:51.420 lefty government to

00:35:53.020 try to do exactly the

00:35:53.880 same thing.

00:35:54.520 It fails.

00:35:55.440 They bring in another

00:35:56.220 one because they won't

00:35:56.780 have anything to do with

00:35:57.780 the National Front or

00:35:59.620 La Pen and just

00:36:00.640 repeat.

00:36:01.080 So you see the same

00:36:02.700 pattern happening

00:36:03.700 pretty much everywhere

00:36:04.760 in Europe where there

00:36:06.280 is a cordeau sanitaire

00:36:08.180 being imposed on

00:36:10.480 right-wing parties, on

00:36:11.680 genuine right-wing

00:36:12.420 parties, to say that

00:36:15.020 no, no, no, you're not

00:36:15.760 allowed to participate in

00:36:16.700 government under any

00:36:17.480 conditions.

00:36:18.240 We won't bring you into

00:36:19.680 a coalition.

00:36:20.320 We won't listen to you.

00:36:21.800 We will just close our

00:36:23.280 ears and start screaming

00:36:24.200 rather than listen to

00:36:25.120 what you have to say.

00:36:25.880 The only country that

00:36:26.640 seems to be an

00:36:28.020 exception to that rule

00:36:29.140 from what I read on it

00:36:30.000 seems to be Spain,

00:36:31.740 where the centre-right

00:36:32.760 is giving lip service

00:36:35.120 to being open to

00:36:36.020 working with the Vox

00:36:36.840 party.

00:36:38.120 Yeah, maybe.

00:36:39.720 Maybe.

00:36:40.140 But it's not actually

00:36:41.020 happening.

00:36:41.940 No.

00:36:42.560 In Germany, that's their

00:36:44.120 favourite trick, isn't

00:36:44.920 it?

00:36:45.080 Whatever happens,

00:36:46.600 everyone else will

00:36:47.640 gang up to prevent

00:36:48.820 AFD from being

00:36:49.860 government.

00:36:50.340 I mean, isn't that

00:36:51.060 what Macron did at the

00:36:52.620 last election, like

00:36:53.360 last year?

00:36:54.620 Exactly.

00:36:55.100 I'll let you explain.

00:36:56.080 That's exactly what he

00:36:57.000 did.

00:36:57.180 That's exactly what

00:36:57.800 they've been doing all

00:36:58.400 the time.

00:36:58.720 So when Macron won

00:37:00.600 against Le Pen in

00:37:01.880 2017, I think it

00:37:04.100 was, the way that

00:37:08.880 that happened was

00:37:10.420 that all of the

00:37:11.760 far left, all of the

00:37:13.400 centre-right, everybody

00:37:14.940 who wasn't part of

00:37:17.140 ARN voted together

00:37:19.500 against Le Pen for

00:37:21.580 Macron, who's a

00:37:22.760 creature of the

00:37:23.400 Rothschild Bank at the

00:37:24.840 end of the day and

00:37:26.220 doesn't have any real

00:37:27.240 experience in government

00:37:28.120 and who's married to

00:37:30.400 a pervert.

00:37:32.800 Let's just face it.

00:37:34.260 Careful, she's very

00:37:35.100 litigious.

00:37:36.260 Whatever.

00:37:37.120 I'm happy to say that

00:37:39.920 if you're in your

00:37:40.760 40s or 30s or

00:37:41.880 whatever she was and

00:37:42.540 having relations with

00:37:43.200 a 15-year-old, there's

00:37:44.880 something slightly

00:37:45.440 perverted.

00:37:45.840 So this is who the

00:37:49.840 guy is, and the

00:37:51.400 entire political

00:37:52.340 establishment decided

00:37:53.420 we'd rather have that

00:37:55.280 rather than less

00:37:56.220 immigration and some

00:37:57.660 questions about our

00:37:58.500 relationship with the

00:37:59.080 EU.

00:37:59.580 Genuinely like Mr.

00:38:01.400 Waternoose in

00:38:02.140 Monsters, Inc.

00:38:02.840 I'll let 1,000

00:38:04.040 Frenchmen get stabbed

00:38:05.380 on the street before

00:38:06.220 we let the national

00:38:06.940 rally in.

00:38:08.200 Precisely.

00:38:09.180 It's a monstrous

00:38:10.500 position.

00:38:10.940 It's a horrific

00:38:11.860 position.

00:38:12.880 And they did the

00:38:13.440 same thing again in

00:38:14.720 the last presidential

00:38:15.400 election when it was

00:38:16.920 again them two.

00:38:19.400 And in the

00:38:20.580 legislative election,

00:38:21.920 the snap legislative

00:38:22.920 election that Macron

00:38:23.740 called for in 2024,

00:38:26.180 so last year as well,

00:38:27.820 everybody banded

00:38:29.680 together to make

00:38:30.660 sure that the

00:38:31.960 RN wouldn't have

00:38:32.860 their man and

00:38:33.680 wouldn't be allowed

00:38:34.480 to get a prime

00:38:35.000 minister.

00:38:35.980 And all of the

00:38:37.360 different parties who

00:38:38.820 were competing for,

00:38:39.940 you know, runoff

00:38:40.960 elections decided we

00:38:42.920 are all going to

00:38:43.600 vote together against

00:38:45.160 ARN.

00:38:45.800 And that's how they

00:38:46.980 didn't get a majority

00:38:47.840 in parliament.

00:38:48.920 I don't know how

00:38:50.020 long they can play

00:38:51.700 that trick for.

00:38:53.420 I don't know how

00:38:53.840 long or that gambit.

00:38:55.180 I don't know how

00:38:55.780 many demographics

00:38:56.740 change enough.

00:38:59.760 Until the demographics

00:39:01.120 change enough.

00:39:02.160 I mean, it's pretty

00:39:03.100 transparent.

00:39:05.040 It's pretty transparent

00:39:06.320 that they're sort of

00:39:07.400 biding their time,

00:39:08.500 biding their time

00:39:09.200 until they feel

00:39:10.260 that this insane

00:39:12.300 experiment is

00:39:13.560 sufficiently irreversible.

00:39:15.920 That seems to be

00:39:16.580 the story.

00:39:16.820 But the thing that

00:39:17.420 always confuses me

00:39:18.920 about this is that

00:39:20.000 why do they seem

00:39:21.000 to think that

00:39:21.580 they'll still be

00:39:22.200 the ones at the

00:39:23.580 top once it has

00:39:25.080 fully taken hold?

00:39:26.180 Because they

00:39:26.780 haven't learned

00:39:28.400 what happened

00:39:29.640 to the leftists

00:39:30.660 after the Islamic

00:39:31.780 revolution in Iran.

00:39:32.820 It was the leftists

00:39:34.600 who did the street

00:39:35.480 mobilization,

00:39:36.400 they did the strikes,

00:39:37.340 they did the organization,

00:39:38.220 and then they received

00:39:39.540 the executions.

00:39:40.980 Like, they literally

00:39:41.960 all got killed.

00:39:43.480 All of them.

00:39:44.000 So these guys

00:39:48.220 are so committed

00:39:49.720 to hating themselves

00:39:52.040 and hating their country

00:39:53.020 and so adamant

00:39:55.500 that the purpose

00:39:57.040 of the government

00:39:58.120 of the nation-state

00:39:59.260 is not to serve

00:40:00.280 the nation-state,

00:40:01.060 that they will go

00:40:02.820 to any lengths

00:40:03.840 to make sure

00:40:05.340 that Marine Le Pen

00:40:06.280 doesn't get into power.

00:40:08.360 And if you look

00:40:08.860 at how diluted

00:40:10.060 Marine Le Pen's positions

00:40:11.820 are compared

00:40:12.460 to her father,

00:40:14.520 then you see

00:40:16.480 that there's simply

00:40:17.440 no reasoning

00:40:18.520 with these guys.

00:40:20.360 Because there are

00:40:21.200 no amount of concessions

00:40:22.440 that you're willing

00:40:22.960 to make

00:40:23.580 that will actually

00:40:25.600 satisfy them.

00:40:27.180 It's like the leftists

00:40:28.180 here that try

00:40:28.660 and paint Nigel

00:40:29.700 as a fascist

00:40:32.160 or something.

00:40:33.340 I would fully support

00:40:36.560 the Nigel

00:40:37.380 that is in the left's

00:40:38.600 imagination

00:40:39.140 with zero preconditions.

00:40:41.820 It's the same

00:40:42.380 with Le Pen.

00:40:43.280 It's the same

00:40:43.640 with AFD.

00:40:44.580 Like AFD

00:40:45.440 are neo-Nazis.

00:40:46.480 They're really not.

00:40:47.520 They're really not.

00:40:48.860 They're a lesbian

00:40:48.900 who's in a relationship

00:40:50.060 with a Sri Lankan.

00:40:51.140 Right.

00:40:51.800 Like you're not

00:40:52.380 very neo-Nazi

00:40:53.500 at that stage.

00:40:54.620 And who supports Israel.

00:40:56.320 And who supports Israel.

00:40:56.900 Famous neo-Nazis

00:40:58.040 that support Israel.

00:40:58.860 Yes.

00:40:59.420 Yes.

00:41:00.840 So now there is talk

00:41:02.540 that they will try

00:41:05.220 to impeach McCall

00:41:07.620 and he's saying

00:41:09.220 that he's absolutely...

00:41:09.920 Sorry, can I just ask...

00:41:10.600 Yes.

00:41:11.060 Who will?

00:41:12.240 Is this...

00:41:13.100 Because as I understand...

00:41:14.440 So there's an agreement

00:41:14.840 on the left and right

00:41:15.560 about this.

00:41:16.040 I was going to say

00:41:16.560 my not great understanding

00:41:19.020 but my shallow understanding

00:41:20.820 is that even the centre-left

00:41:22.960 and even some of the far-left

00:41:25.780 are saying that

00:41:27.920 they're done with Macron.

00:41:29.280 Yes.

00:41:29.420 So it's nearly everyone

00:41:30.380 it seems

00:41:31.000 don't want Macron anymore.

00:41:34.120 And...

00:41:34.600 They're blaming him personally.

00:41:35.920 They are blaming him personally

00:41:37.020 and the problem is

00:41:38.140 that the far-left

00:41:39.040 is actually strong

00:41:40.180 and I think alone

00:41:43.300 they get something

00:41:43.900 like 26% of the vote.

00:41:45.700 Under Macron.

00:41:46.700 Under Macron.

00:41:47.200 And they want more communism

00:41:51.860 and the prime minister

00:41:54.020 is saying

00:41:54.660 don't become like Britain

00:41:56.320 because the Brits

00:41:57.200 tried raising taxes

00:41:58.400 on the rich

00:41:59.000 and all that did

00:42:00.480 was raise property prices

00:42:01.980 in Milan.

00:42:02.420 And if you looked at it

00:42:04.120 apparently property prices

00:42:05.880 in Milan have gone up

00:42:06.960 by 49%

00:42:08.060 since 2017

00:42:09.900 as more and more

00:42:10.980 rich people have moved there

00:42:12.260 because Meloni decided

00:42:14.580 that she is going to

00:42:16.340 tax foreign income

00:42:17.660 at a flat rate

00:42:18.620 of under 200k.

00:42:20.420 So if you have

00:42:21.480 overshore

00:42:22.000 like the whole

00:42:23.980 what was it called

00:42:25.220 in Britain

00:42:26.060 the offshore thing

00:42:27.860 the overseas

00:42:29.680 non-resident tax

00:42:30.400 non-dom.

00:42:31.200 Oh, all right.

00:42:31.860 Okay.

00:42:32.420 If you wanted to be treated

00:42:33.660 like a non-dom

00:42:34.300 you'd have to pay

00:42:34.920 200,000 pounds

00:42:35.760 which is peanuts.

00:42:37.440 And then you get to live

00:42:38.200 in Milan.

00:42:40.400 So he's saying

00:42:41.560 don't make the same mistake

00:42:43.220 and try to tax the rich

00:42:44.420 and the left is saying

00:42:45.280 no, no, no

00:42:45.620 how dare you?

00:42:47.120 How dare you?

00:42:48.100 That's our only plan.

00:42:49.140 We will not learn

00:42:49.860 from experience.

00:42:51.160 Screw learning

00:42:51.720 from experience.

00:42:52.660 That's for amateurs.

00:42:53.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:54.880 So this seems to be

00:42:56.500 the whole argument

00:42:57.600 of the left

00:42:58.300 that really

00:42:58.960 what's needed

00:43:00.140 is more government spending.

00:43:01.460 what's needed

00:43:02.500 is more taxation

00:43:03.440 and this will solve things

00:43:05.300 even though

00:43:05.980 and you have to remember this

00:43:06.980 the French government

00:43:08.860 spends 55%

00:43:10.700 of its GDP.

00:43:12.160 So more than half

00:43:13.420 of the economy

00:43:14.040 is under the control

00:43:14.940 of the French state.

00:43:16.400 34% of GDP

00:43:17.920 is just welfare payments

00:43:19.280 by the French state.

00:43:20.020 So one out of three euros

00:43:23.260 that is made in France

00:43:24.160 just gets redistributed

00:43:25.620 to some

00:43:26.120 probably immigrant

00:43:27.500 because if you look

00:43:30.000 at the level

00:43:31.100 of education

00:43:31.700 employment

00:43:32.240 etc.

00:43:33.060 among the migrant

00:43:34.160 communities

00:43:34.620 it's atrocious.

00:43:35.800 You had people

00:43:36.860 during last year's riots

00:43:38.140 in France

00:43:38.600 putting up signs

00:43:39.760 saying

00:43:40.160 please don't smash

00:43:41.460 my windows

00:43:42.100 I need to pay taxes

00:43:43.720 to give your mother

00:43:44.560 welfare.

00:43:45.000 And the answer

00:43:48.740 from the left

00:43:49.380 is

00:43:49.820 how about more taxes

00:43:51.100 how about more welfare

00:43:52.420 how about more foreigners

00:43:53.780 how about more foreigners

00:43:54.820 exactly.

00:43:56.060 So it's

00:43:56.540 it's an absolutely

00:43:57.580 obscene position

00:43:58.680 I was going to say

00:43:59.260 it's not that much

00:43:59.980 better in Britain

00:44:00.760 but France

00:44:01.880 seems to be

00:44:02.340 speed running

00:44:02.960 the process

00:44:03.420 even faster

00:44:04.340 than we are

00:44:04.880 even faster.

00:44:05.900 Yes.

00:44:06.280 They're further down

00:44:07.320 the route

00:44:07.780 and they're going

00:44:08.720 faster.

00:44:09.500 It's a structural

00:44:10.420 problem across

00:44:11.260 the board

00:44:11.760 where there is

00:44:12.380 no recognition

00:44:13.260 that

00:44:15.800 if you do believe

00:44:17.380 in the nonsense

00:44:17.980 of the social contract

00:44:19.060 you must at least

00:44:21.100 throw the natives

00:44:22.140 a bone here and there

00:44:23.020 and the response

00:44:24.480 throughout is

00:44:25.300 absolutely no

00:44:26.220 concessions to the natives

00:44:27.180 at any cost.

00:44:28.680 And the French economy

00:44:30.120 I mean

00:44:30.500 if they end up

00:44:31.440 with hyperinflation

00:44:32.320 or a default

00:44:33.000 which are realistic scenarios

00:44:34.540 when you have this level

00:44:35.360 of debt

00:44:35.780 already they have

00:44:37.200 the highest G7

00:44:38.400 unemployment rate.

00:44:40.000 So they're not

00:44:40.420 exactly doing very well.

00:44:43.400 They're higher

00:44:44.240 than their competitors

00:44:45.440 and they're locked

00:44:47.020 into

00:44:47.720 an enormous amount

00:44:49.140 of spending

00:44:49.620 that keeps on rising

00:44:50.660 and

00:44:52.660 they don't

00:44:53.860 really seem

00:44:54.800 to have a solution

00:44:55.620 other than

00:44:56.440 more spending

00:44:57.620 more deficits

00:44:58.500 more debts

00:44:59.460 more taxes

00:45:00.200 like that seems

00:45:01.620 to be their only

00:45:02.180 playbook

00:45:02.640 and you

00:45:04.860 the police

00:45:05.920 are saying

00:45:06.640 we're too dysfunctional

00:45:07.500 to stop the boats

00:45:08.220 and they're mostly

00:45:09.300 too dysfunctional

00:45:10.000 to stop the crime

00:45:10.720 in general

00:45:11.420 and there are

00:45:12.840 massive no-go areas

00:45:14.100 in Paris

00:45:14.540 I remember

00:45:15.100 when we were having

00:45:15.760 this debate

00:45:16.160 a few years ago

00:45:16.900 and the left

00:45:17.820 was saying

00:45:18.200 no there's no such

00:45:19.200 thing as a no-go area

00:45:20.160 you can go there

00:45:21.080 so long as you have

00:45:21.980 a police escort

00:45:23.000 and you're going

00:45:23.600 at high noon

00:45:24.160 you can drive

00:45:25.900 around

00:45:26.280 but everybody

00:45:28.040 knows that

00:45:28.720 these things

00:45:29.300 are real

00:45:29.740 and you see

00:45:31.420 them

00:45:31.780 you see

00:45:33.120 the most recent

00:45:33.820 humiliation here

00:45:34.840 of basically

00:45:36.380 a bunch of thugs

00:45:37.400 climbing on the

00:45:38.840 raising Palestinian flags

00:45:50.660 on the statue

00:45:51.200 of Joan of Arc

00:45:51.920 and generally

00:45:54.860 being their

00:45:55.620 friendly

00:45:56.040 thuggish selves

00:45:56.960 and you see

00:45:58.980 that the French

00:45:59.540 state admits

00:46:00.320 that the Muslim

00:46:00.840 Brotherhood

00:46:01.220 has pretty much

00:46:01.740 fully infiltrated

00:46:03.160 the state

00:46:03.680 because of the numbers

00:46:06.980 not because you can

00:46:08.020 ban a specific

00:46:08.800 organization

00:46:09.460 it's an ideology

00:46:11.000 first

00:46:11.520 it comes

00:46:12.500 with the numbers

00:46:13.760 and 10% of France

00:46:15.900 is Muslim

00:46:16.840 at this stage

00:46:17.540 which is an insane

00:46:19.400 figure

00:46:19.840 when you think

00:46:20.860 about the history

00:46:22.280 of France

00:46:22.860 and you see

00:46:26.220 that there is

00:46:26.700 no solution

00:46:28.020 and it's

00:46:29.120 not obvious

00:46:31.480 to me

00:46:31.860 that there is

00:46:32.320 an electoral solution

00:46:33.840 because

00:46:35.200 even with

00:46:36.120 all of this mess

00:46:36.980 the RN

00:46:39.140 is still at

00:46:39.780 32%

00:46:40.400 and the left

00:46:41.880 is at

00:46:42.140 25%

00:46:42.960 so with

00:46:43.960 some other

00:46:44.520 allies

00:46:45.100 they could

00:46:46.940 still end up

00:46:47.820 in control

00:46:48.520 they'll just

00:46:49.360 keep locking

00:46:49.940 them out

00:46:50.400 they will do

00:46:51.220 everything

00:46:51.640 that they can

00:46:52.460 to keep

00:46:53.520 locking the RN

00:46:54.220 out

00:46:54.520 whilst France

00:46:55.280 burns

00:46:55.720 whilst France

00:46:56.680 burns

00:46:57.000 and that seems

00:46:57.840 to be the

00:46:58.140 playbook

00:46:58.540 and it's

00:47:01.620 it goes

00:47:02.680 back to

00:47:03.200 a fundamental

00:47:03.860 question

00:47:04.440 of what

00:47:06.020 is the

00:47:06.520 purpose

00:47:06.820 of the

00:47:07.140 state

00:47:07.440 should it

00:47:08.960 be providing

00:47:09.760 you with

00:47:10.540 child care

00:47:11.520 and health

00:47:12.480 care

00:47:12.800 and pensions

00:47:15.560 but zero

00:47:16.660 protection for

00:47:17.980 your property

00:47:18.520 or for the

00:47:19.360 safety of

00:47:19.720 your person

00:47:20.220 while importing

00:47:22.060 an endless

00:47:22.540 horde of

00:47:22.960 people who

00:47:23.380 absolutely

00:47:23.760 hate your

00:47:24.180 guts

00:47:24.480 or is

00:47:25.980 the purpose

00:47:26.460 of the

00:47:26.820 organs of

00:47:27.320 the state

00:47:27.800 to serve

00:47:29.260 the people

00:47:30.240 whose land

00:47:31.140 the state

00:47:31.660 is built

00:47:32.120 on

00:47:32.500 and that's

00:47:34.000 the fundamental

00:47:34.520 philosophical

00:47:35.020 problem

00:47:35.560 without a

00:47:37.040 conception

00:47:37.460 that the

00:47:38.980 state is

00:47:39.660 there to

00:47:40.180 serve

00:47:40.540 the French

00:47:41.240 state is

00:47:41.660 there to

00:47:41.980 serve the

00:47:42.420 French

00:47:42.640 people

00:47:43.040 and the

00:47:44.000 French

00:47:44.200 people are

00:47:44.620 in fact

00:47:44.980 not Moroccan

00:47:45.800 or Algerian

00:47:46.540 or African

00:47:47.140 or Lebanese

00:47:47.920 without that

00:47:50.020 conception

00:47:50.560 none of

00:47:51.800 this is going

00:47:52.140 to be

00:47:52.380 resolved

00:47:52.800 fundamentally

00:47:54.000 there is a

00:47:54.500 philosophical

00:47:54.900 problem over

00:47:55.740 why are we

00:47:56.800 collecting taxes

00:47:57.580 why do we

00:47:59.120 have these

00:47:59.480 employees

00:47:59.820 working for

00:48:00.280 the government

00:48:00.640 why are

00:48:02.440 these NGOs

00:48:02.960 being funded

00:48:03.640 what is the

00:48:04.280 purpose of

00:48:04.680 all of this

00:48:05.120 and the

00:48:06.160 answer seems

00:48:06.640 to be

00:48:07.040 to serve

00:48:08.540 the global

00:48:09.480 good

00:48:09.940 at the

00:48:11.180 expense of

00:48:12.040 the people

00:48:12.420 paying the

00:48:13.340 taxes

00:48:13.640 who have

00:48:15.400 been on

00:48:15.780 this land

00:48:16.240 for

00:48:16.520 thousand years

00:48:17.620 two thousand

00:48:18.120 years

00:48:18.420 three thousand

00:48:18.880 years

00:48:19.240 in Bo's

00:48:20.820 case was

00:48:21.240 it 29

00:48:21.680 thousand years

00:48:22.360 something like

00:48:23.320 that

00:48:23.620 Dan

00:48:24.040 it was Dan

00:48:24.540 he's like a

00:48:25.640 British app

00:48:26.080 original

00:48:26.420 yeah

00:48:26.600 29 thousand

00:48:28.640 years

00:48:28.880 so this is

00:48:30.580 the fundamental

00:48:31.000 issue

00:48:31.460 it's a

00:48:32.100 philosophical

00:48:32.460 question first

00:48:33.180 and foremost

00:48:33.700 and they're

00:48:34.700 pretending that

00:48:35.360 it's an

00:48:35.620 economic

00:48:35.920 question and

00:48:36.660 it has

00:48:36.900 nothing to

00:48:37.200 do with

00:48:37.380 immigration

00:48:37.800 look guys

00:48:39.260 enough

00:48:39.640 like just

00:48:41.040 be honest

00:48:41.560 about this

00:48:41.960 please

00:48:42.280 enough

00:48:42.860 they can't

00:48:43.280 they can't

00:48:43.720 though

00:48:43.940 because they're

00:48:44.980 the same

00:48:45.320 people

00:48:45.600 it's the

00:48:45.900 same

00:48:46.220 world view

00:48:47.320 that led

00:48:47.960 to this

00:48:48.520 yes

00:48:48.860 quite

00:48:49.580 you know

00:48:50.480 civic

00:48:51.060 nationalism

00:48:51.480 leads to

00:48:51.920 open borders

00:48:52.560 and leads to

00:48:53.200 sectarian

00:48:53.860 chaos

00:48:54.400 exactly

00:48:54.940 oh

00:48:55.580 just to

00:48:56.300 add a

00:48:56.580 quick

00:48:56.780 point

00:48:57.080 they're

00:48:57.800 still

00:48:58.120 funding

00:48:58.600 Ukraine

00:48:59.100 the

00:49:00.500 French

00:49:00.780 are

00:49:00.920 still

00:49:01.160 funding

00:49:01.460 Ukraine

00:49:01.940 and they

00:49:02.780 still

00:49:03.040 haven't

00:49:03.460 learned

00:49:03.760 that a

00:49:04.140 big part

00:49:04.800 of the

00:49:05.160 economic

00:49:05.520 crisis

00:49:05.900 in Europe

00:49:06.380 is because

00:49:07.400 they cut

00:49:08.020 themselves

00:49:08.500 off from

00:49:09.080 Russian

00:49:09.340 gas

00:49:09.780 and had

00:49:10.960 the

00:49:11.140 Americans

00:49:11.540 blow up

00:49:12.240 the main

00:49:13.000 pipeline

00:49:13.580 feeding the

00:49:14.180 German

00:49:14.380 economy

00:49:14.840 through

00:49:16.000 Ukrainian

00:49:16.480 hands

00:49:16.920 whatever

00:49:17.240 but it

00:49:17.580 was

00:49:17.760 American

00:49:18.200 approved

00:49:18.740 the

00:49:19.280 blowing

00:49:19.540 up

00:49:19.720 of

00:49:19.840 Nord Stream

00:49:20.320 and the

00:49:21.520 result of

00:49:22.020 that is

00:49:22.380 Germany

00:49:22.700 de-industrializing

00:49:23.740 and if

00:49:24.980 the German

00:49:25.880 economy

00:49:26.440 isn't

00:49:26.860 working

00:49:27.360 no European

00:49:28.700 economy

00:49:29.260 is going

00:49:29.820 to be

00:49:30.080 working

00:49:30.420 so this

00:49:31.980 isn't just

00:49:32.500 a French

00:49:32.980 crisis

00:49:33.540 or a

00:49:34.260 British

00:49:34.460 crisis

00:49:34.880 this is

00:49:35.240 a system

00:49:35.680 wide

00:49:35.960 crisis

00:49:36.480 and one

00:49:38.820 of the

00:49:39.100 roots of

00:49:39.460 it is

00:49:39.980 complete

00:49:40.800 European

00:49:41.440 subservience

00:49:42.140 to the

00:49:42.420 United

00:49:42.600 States

00:49:43.040 that's

00:49:45.420 one of

00:49:45.600 the key

00:49:45.820 roots of

00:49:46.140 it

00:49:46.320 and nobody

00:49:47.400 wants to

00:49:47.740 discuss

00:49:48.000 this

00:49:48.320 and nobody

00:49:49.780 wants to

00:49:50.100 think

00:49:50.240 clearly

00:49:50.520 about

00:49:50.760 this

00:49:51.060 because

00:49:52.000 it

00:49:52.180 goes

00:49:52.380 back

00:49:52.600 to

00:49:52.720 the

00:49:52.820 fundamental

00:49:53.120 question

00:49:53.620 it

00:49:54.520 is

00:49:54.800 in

00:49:54.960 France's

00:49:55.400 interest

00:49:55.760 to align

00:49:56.320 with

00:49:56.520 Russia

00:49:56.820 because

00:49:57.120 that's

00:49:57.560 always

00:49:57.940 how you've

00:49:58.360 been

00:49:58.480 containing

00:49:58.820 Germany

00:49:59.260 and that's

00:50:00.780 always been

00:50:01.280 how you

00:50:01.540 contain

00:50:01.800 Germany

00:50:02.120 you get

00:50:02.540 a Franco

00:50:03.060 Russian

00:50:03.840 alliance

00:50:04.280 and that

00:50:04.660 keeps

00:50:04.860 the Germans

00:50:05.240 in their

00:50:05.500 place

00:50:05.820 but you

00:50:08.000 cannot think

00:50:08.680 about that

00:50:09.180 why

00:50:09.600 because

00:50:10.140 they're

00:50:10.400 all in

00:50:10.700 NATO

00:50:10.980 and they

00:50:11.440 all have

00:50:11.720 to serve

00:50:12.000 the

00:50:12.140 American

00:50:12.400 Empire

00:50:12.840 not

00:50:13.860 their

00:50:14.420 own

00:50:14.620 people

00:50:15.000 it's

00:50:16.060 very

00:50:16.220 interesting

00:50:16.460 I've got

00:50:16.680 an

00:50:16.820 anecdote

00:50:17.100 about

00:50:17.620 that

00:50:17.900 a while

00:50:18.620 ago

00:50:18.900 here

00:50:19.320 I

00:50:19.820 interviewed

00:50:20.360 Peter

00:50:21.160 Boringer

00:50:21.800 of the

00:50:22.600 ADF

00:50:23.200 he was

00:50:24.920 at least

00:50:25.260 one of

00:50:25.680 the

00:50:25.820 deputy

00:50:26.280 chairman

00:50:27.080 of

00:50:27.280 ADF

00:50:27.720 and he

00:50:28.160 was

00:50:28.280 doing

00:50:33.500 the rounds

00:50:33.820 like he

00:50:34.220 did an

00:50:34.600 interview

00:50:34.820 on GB

00:50:35.200 News

00:50:35.500 and stuff

00:50:35.840 and he

00:50:36.000 was kind

00:50:36.620 enough to

00:50:36.920 come on

00:50:37.160 here

00:50:37.380 and asked

00:50:38.000 him all

00:50:38.240 sorts of

00:50:38.480 questions

00:50:38.760 and at

00:50:38.980 one point

00:50:39.420 I asked

00:50:40.140 him about

00:50:40.520 Nord Stream

00:50:41.240 and he

00:50:42.920 literally

00:50:43.420 just sort

00:50:43.960 of said

00:50:44.300 wait

00:50:44.580 wait a

00:50:45.000 minute

00:50:45.140 can you

00:50:46.840 not ask

00:50:47.160 me that

00:50:47.360 question

00:50:47.740 I sort

00:50:49.560 of can't

00:50:50.500 answer that

00:50:51.100 question

00:50:51.280 I don't

00:50:51.660 want to

00:50:52.000 I'm not

00:50:52.300 in a

00:50:52.460 position

00:50:52.720 to I

00:50:52.960 can't

00:50:53.260 really

00:50:53.520 and I

00:50:53.880 was like

00:50:54.040 okay

00:50:54.260 fine

00:50:54.560 I'm not

00:50:55.040 trying to

00:50:55.540 do a

00:50:56.300 gotcha

00:50:56.600 I'm not

00:50:56.900 trying to

00:50:57.200 embarrass you

00:50:57.700 or catch

00:50:58.040 you out

00:50:58.260 so we'll

00:50:58.840 just move

00:50:59.120 on

00:50:59.240 absolutely

00:50:59.500 fine

00:50:59.740 by me

00:51:00.060 and he

00:51:00.660 did the

00:51:00.920 same

00:51:01.120 thing

00:51:01.380 though

00:51:01.580 for when

00:51:01.920 I

00:51:02.020 talked

00:51:02.200 about

00:51:02.440 American

00:51:02.860 bases

00:51:03.280 but how

00:51:04.140 do you

00:51:04.300 feel

00:51:04.480 about

00:51:04.680 having

00:51:04.900 loads

00:51:05.120 of

00:51:05.240 American

00:51:05.480 bases

00:51:05.780 still

00:51:06.240 after

00:51:06.900 World War

00:51:07.240 II

00:51:07.400 peppered

00:51:07.800 throughout

00:51:07.960 your

00:51:08.100 country

00:51:08.340 and he's

00:51:08.520 like I

00:51:08.760 can't

00:51:09.700 I can't

00:51:10.080 but that

00:51:11.040 speaks volumes

00:51:12.080 doesn't it

00:51:12.920 that that

00:51:13.420 really does

00:51:13.820 speak volumes

00:51:14.520 about

00:51:14.960 the hegemony

00:51:16.340 still

00:51:16.780 of of

00:51:18.280 the United

00:51:18.680 States

00:51:19.160 it's it's

00:51:20.300 this is what

00:51:21.460 castrated

00:51:22.000 people sound

00:51:22.640 like

00:51:22.980 it's not

00:51:25.360 there's not

00:51:25.700 loads of

00:51:26.100 US bases

00:51:26.640 in Britain

00:51:27.160 there are

00:51:29.420 there are

00:51:30.780 exactly

00:51:31.260 but at least

00:51:32.040 we could have

00:51:32.480 at least I

00:51:32.980 could talk

00:51:33.340 about it

00:51:33.820 yeah

00:51:34.220 at least I'm

00:51:34.760 at liberty

00:51:35.100 to speculate

00:51:36.260 who blew

00:51:36.880 up that

00:51:37.240 pipeline

00:51:37.720 or I'm

00:51:38.400 free to

00:51:38.800 say

00:51:39.080 wouldn't it

00:51:39.720 be better

00:51:40.040 if there

00:51:40.340 weren't

00:51:40.540 US air force

00:51:41.140 bases

00:51:41.500 peppered

00:51:42.200 all over

00:51:42.500 Britain

00:51:42.760 I'd like

00:51:43.320 it if

00:51:43.500 there weren't

00:51:43.840 actually

00:51:44.260 I don't

00:51:45.140 feel terrified

00:51:45.880 in posing

00:51:47.400 the question

00:51:48.020 yep

00:51:48.360 yep

00:51:48.740 yep

00:51:48.960 it's a good

00:51:50.220 point

00:51:50.420 people don't

00:51:51.280 really bring

00:51:51.620 up that

00:51:51.880 point

00:51:52.080 very often

00:51:52.480 but that

00:51:52.740 is true

00:51:53.340 it's true

00:51:54.340 it's a

00:51:55.180 fundamental

00:51:55.580 part of

00:51:56.220 reality

00:51:56.640 that

00:51:57.100 Europe

00:51:57.800 has

00:51:58.180 surrendered

00:51:58.640 sovereignty

00:51:59.400 and

00:52:01.180 part of

00:52:01.700 surrendering

00:52:02.100 Europe's

00:52:02.560 sovereignty

00:52:02.880 entails

00:52:03.760 pretending

00:52:05.060 that Europe

00:52:05.620 is the

00:52:05.940 United

00:52:06.180 States

00:52:06.620 and is

00:52:07.400 therefore

00:52:07.640 a land

00:52:07.960 of

00:52:08.080 immigrants

00:52:08.440 now the

00:52:09.620 revolutionary

00:52:10.060 thing about

00:52:10.580 the United

00:52:10.920 States was

00:52:11.420 that it

00:52:11.760 was a land

00:52:12.280 for European

00:52:13.100 immigrants and

00:52:13.860 that was

00:52:14.140 understood by

00:52:14.660 a lot of

00:52:14.920 the founders

00:52:15.380 all of the

00:52:16.400 founders

00:52:16.660 arguably

00:52:17.100 and now the

00:52:19.060 pretense is

00:52:19.740 that no

00:52:20.400 is for

00:52:20.720 anyone

00:52:21.060 from

00:52:21.340 anywhere

00:52:21.800 including

00:52:22.940 Hindus

00:52:23.940 including

00:52:24.780 Buddhists

00:52:25.700 including

00:52:26.260 Confucians

00:52:26.980 including

00:52:27.360 Muslims

00:52:27.760 including

00:52:28.100 whoever

00:52:28.460 but before

00:52:31.180 that it

00:52:31.440 was understood

00:52:31.800 that it

00:52:32.080 was actually

00:52:32.540 about white

00:52:33.040 Christians

00:52:33.440 and that

00:52:36.880 was not

00:52:38.200 even

00:52:38.500 controversial

00:52:39.160 no and

00:52:39.900 what's more

00:52:40.520 it's obvious

00:52:41.280 idiocy to

00:52:44.320 think that

00:52:44.920 it was

00:52:45.600 the founding

00:52:46.200 fathers did

00:52:47.060 have in

00:52:47.460 mind that

00:52:48.660 it would

00:52:48.960 become

00:52:49.300 basically a

00:52:50.180 place for

00:52:50.760 all people

00:52:51.560 of the

00:52:51.860 world

00:52:52.100 these founding

00:52:53.140 fathers who

00:52:53.840 we never hear

00:52:54.900 the end of

00:52:56.280 how racist

00:52:56.920 they were

00:52:57.480 and yet

00:52:58.520 somehow they

00:52:59.180 simultaneously

00:52:59.760 wanted it to

00:53:00.760 be a place for

00:53:01.420 all people and

00:53:02.100 all faiths and

00:53:02.780 all

00:53:03.040 there's no

00:53:04.560 coherence to

00:53:05.460 their thinking

00:53:05.900 there's no

00:53:06.720 coherence to

00:53:07.220 leftist thinking

00:53:07.820 it's just that

00:53:09.040 stupid plaque

00:53:09.840 that somebody

00:53:10.720 after the fact

00:53:12.200 put on the

00:53:12.900 Statue of

00:53:13.420 Liberty thing

00:53:13.980 wasn't it

00:53:14.360 bring me

00:53:15.200 all your

00:53:16.000 huddled masses

00:53:16.540 or whatever

00:53:16.900 I'm paraphrasing

00:53:17.660 no no

00:53:18.760 that's a much

00:53:19.340 much more

00:53:19.920 modern

00:53:20.460 concept

00:53:21.660 well the idea

00:53:22.260 of critical

00:53:22.680 theory and

00:53:23.100 critical race

00:53:23.700 theory and

00:53:24.140 all that stuff

00:53:24.440 it's not that

00:53:24.940 old

00:53:25.280 you look back

00:53:26.220 at histories

00:53:26.840 by someone

00:53:28.220 like Winston

00:53:28.720 Churchill

00:53:29.060 or Sir

00:53:29.600 Charles

00:53:29.820 Omer

00:53:30.080 20th

00:53:30.520 century

00:53:30.860 first half

00:53:31.400 of the

00:53:31.540 20th

00:53:31.740 century

00:53:31.960 they just

00:53:32.580 openly

00:53:32.980 talking about

00:53:34.660 race

00:53:35.280 the white

00:53:36.620 race here

00:53:37.160 or there

00:53:37.540 yes

00:53:38.020 and the

00:53:39.400 differences

00:53:39.700 between

00:53:40.020 groups of

00:53:40.400 people

00:53:40.720 and the

00:53:42.060 fact

00:53:42.240 different

00:53:42.520 groups

00:53:42.800 and that

00:53:43.440 belief

00:53:43.720 systems

00:53:44.160 matter

00:53:44.720 Churchill's

00:53:46.980 views on

00:53:47.260 Islam

00:53:47.580 quite famous

00:53:48.220 so

00:53:48.980 it's just

00:53:50.780 complete

00:53:51.220 separation

00:53:51.620 from reality

00:53:52.240 shall we

00:53:53.800 go through

00:53:54.360 a couple

00:53:54.600 comments

00:53:54.920 sure

00:53:55.180 by all

00:53:55.460 means

00:53:55.660 sure

00:53:56.120 let me

00:53:59.200 see

00:53:59.460 regardless

00:54:00.160 of what's

00:54:00.520 popular

00:54:00.900 we the

00:54:01.440 USA

00:54:01.740 are

00:54:02.200 unapologetically

00:54:03.100 and totally

00:54:03.740 on your

00:54:04.120 side

00:54:04.380 as English

00:54:04.720 citizens

00:54:05.180 my heritage

00:54:06.300 is English

00:54:06.700 and mostly

00:54:07.120 Viking

00:54:07.500 I wish and

00:54:08.120 hope you

00:54:08.540 you will

00:54:09.520 fight like

00:54:10.200 you did

00:54:10.520 against the

00:54:10.940 Viking

00:54:11.180 invaders

00:54:11.640 yeah thank

00:54:12.260 you for

00:54:12.460 that

00:54:12.720 and that's

00:54:13.940 from

00:54:14.120 magnum

00:54:14.500 norse for

00:54:14.900 $50

00:54:15.160 thank you

00:54:15.740 for that

00:54:16.040 thanks very

00:54:16.440 much

00:54:16.760 from

00:54:18.280 Val

00:54:19.060 politics

00:54:19.500 for

00:54:19.700 £20

00:54:19.940 you'd

00:54:21.100 think

00:54:21.380 with such

00:54:22.960 bleak

00:54:23.360 economic

00:54:23.780 prospects

00:54:24.240 nations

00:54:24.660 would push

00:54:25.360 their own

00:54:26.500 natives

00:54:26.900 to have

00:54:27.280 children

00:54:27.700 since that

00:54:28.280 justifies

00:54:28.780 investing

00:54:29.300 in the

00:54:29.560 foundations

00:54:30.060 of long

00:54:31.240 term GDP

00:54:31.760 growth

00:54:32.180 precisely

00:54:32.660 the economy

00:54:33.980 is shrinking

00:54:34.500 because the

00:54:35.040 country is

00:54:35.540 absolutely

00:54:36.280 absolutely

00:54:37.100 and the

00:54:38.180 idea that

00:54:38.760 somebody

00:54:39.060 from

00:54:39.360 Morocco

00:54:39.740 I mean

00:54:40.460 have you

00:54:41.720 been to

00:54:42.140 the sort

00:54:42.440 of rural

00:54:42.800 parts of

00:54:43.240 Morocco

00:54:43.520 where pretty

00:54:43.980 much 40%

00:54:44.720 is illiterate

00:54:45.320 the idea

00:54:46.300 that they

00:54:46.600 will just

00:54:47.120 become

00:54:47.400 wonderful

00:54:47.780 French

00:54:48.080 citizens

00:54:48.440 it's just

00:54:48.940 laughable

00:54:50.440 Skoblat

00:54:53.920 for £5

00:54:55.020 we all know

00:54:56.200 the solution

00:54:56.680 nobody wants

00:54:57.260 to say it

00:54:57.820 mass remigration

00:54:59.280 Juan de Rivera

00:55:00.500 knew it

00:55:01.260 400 years ago

00:55:02.120 I'm assuming

00:55:02.840 that would be

00:55:03.260 Reconquista

00:55:04.020 how about

00:55:06.400 we stop

00:55:06.800 allowing this

00:55:07.360 nonsense

00:55:07.820 I'm in

00:55:08.460 North Carolina

00:55:09.760 also

00:55:10.860 magnum

00:55:11.240 Norse

00:55:11.480 thank you

00:55:11.760 very much

00:55:12.080 for that

00:55:12.400 brother doom

00:55:14.000 for 499

00:55:14.880 I'm an

00:55:15.740 American

00:55:16.100 and I'd

00:55:16.580 also prefer

00:55:17.280 not having

00:55:17.880 military bases

00:55:18.500 all over

00:55:18.880 Britain

00:55:19.280 or Germany

00:55:20.260 for that

00:55:20.640 matter

00:55:20.960 I'd like

00:55:21.840 to send

00:55:22.120 the troops

00:55:22.440 home

00:55:22.700 well yes

00:55:23.740 because

00:55:24.140 for the

00:55:24.920 Americans

00:55:25.320 and this

00:55:26.320 is no

00:55:26.580 part an

00:55:27.020 attack on

00:55:27.400 American

00:55:27.660 citizens

00:55:28.120 at no

00:55:29.200 point at

00:55:29.520 all

00:55:29.720 but the

00:55:31.240 fact that

00:55:31.860 the American

00:55:32.440 government

00:55:32.960 prioritizes

00:55:33.820 the empire

00:55:34.520 comes at

00:55:35.860 the expense

00:55:36.420 of American

00:55:36.860 citizens

00:55:37.360 and so

00:55:38.840 nothing that

00:55:40.060 I said

00:55:40.380 should be

00:55:40.700 construed as

00:55:41.180 being

00:55:41.480 you know

00:55:42.060 against

00:55:42.640 Americans

00:55:43.240 no it's

00:55:43.780 not about

00:55:44.060 the people

00:55:44.480 it's

00:55:44.680 not at

00:55:45.680 all

00:55:45.820 it's just

00:55:47.540 that

00:55:47.820 if

00:55:48.900 they

00:55:49.960 prioritize

00:55:50.660 their

00:55:51.100 empire

00:55:51.660 neither

00:55:52.800 European

00:55:53.500 citizens

00:55:54.000 nor

00:55:54.520 Europeans

00:55:55.040 in the

00:55:55.380 United

00:55:55.600 States

00:55:56.020 will be

00:55:56.440 a

00:55:56.560 priority

00:55:56.960 and

00:55:57.860 that's

00:55:58.420 the

00:55:58.500 objective

00:55:58.800 reality

00:55:59.280 of it

00:55:59.500 that's

00:55:59.660 a good

00:55:59.820 point

00:55:59.960 I would

00:56:00.200 like

00:56:00.340 to make

00:56:00.640 a

00:56:00.760 distinction

00:56:01.140 again

00:56:01.580 between

00:56:01.800 the

00:56:02.500 average

00:56:02.920 person

00:56:03.620 in

00:56:04.000 Nebraska

00:56:04.440 and the

00:56:05.720 planners

00:56:06.180 at the

00:56:06.660 Pentagon

00:56:07.000 yes

00:56:07.540 they're

00:56:08.200 not

00:56:08.360 the same

00:56:09.240 the planners

00:56:09.860 at the

00:56:10.160 Pentagon

00:56:10.460 are usually

00:56:11.180 a lot

00:56:11.460 more sane

00:56:11.920 because they

00:56:12.340 might get

00:56:12.660 shot

00:56:13.040 the most

00:56:14.120 awful people

00:56:14.840 are the people

00:56:15.480 in the State

00:56:15.840 Department

00:56:16.300 and I've met

00:56:17.080 some of them

00:56:17.580 and they're all

00:56:18.000 fucking morons

00:56:18.900 I think that's a random name

00:56:22.260 makes a really good point

00:56:23.280 in the rumble rant as well

00:56:24.700 where he says there's also a second

00:56:26.080 cord on sanitaire

00:56:27.000 going on throughout the West

00:56:28.500 that I refer to as the tyranny

00:56:29.980 of the boomers

00:56:30.720 because once they're the majority

00:56:32.740 because they once they lose

00:56:34.400 their majority as a voting bloc

00:56:35.840 things will pop off

00:56:37.280 that's my belief

00:56:38.060 you do see this

00:56:38.940 when you look at the most

00:56:40.040 recent German elections

00:56:41.280 and the way

00:56:42.300 it's the boomers

00:56:43.660 popping up

00:56:44.280 the old parties

00:56:45.320 getting in the way

00:56:46.500 of a huge voter bloc

00:56:48.340 of like young vitality

00:56:50.060 for the AFD

00:56:51.480 or even for the leftist parties

00:56:53.380 you know

00:56:53.660 it's this boomer centrism

00:56:55.480 that everybody hates

00:56:57.380 everyone's dissatisfied

00:56:58.740 the left is less guilty

00:57:00.300 of boomer centrism

00:57:01.160 than the right

00:57:01.680 they were the first

00:57:02.640 to leave it

00:57:03.220 they were the first

00:57:04.120 to leave it

00:57:04.560 I'll give them that

00:57:05.500 alright

00:57:06.780 over to you Bo

00:57:07.740 okay Samson

00:57:08.540 can you bring up

00:57:09.020 all my links for me

00:57:09.980 there we go

00:57:11.020 okay so

00:57:12.240 just want to talk

00:57:12.860 a little bit

00:57:13.700 about the dark economy

00:57:15.680 the hidden economy

00:57:16.800 if you like

00:57:17.940 the plague

00:57:19.260 of

00:57:19.920 of delivery drivers

00:57:22.400 we've got in this country

00:57:23.900 you may not have it

00:57:24.880 in the United States

00:57:25.560 or in other places

00:57:26.240 but

00:57:27.060 certainly it's pretty bad here

00:57:29.480 and also

00:57:30.640 basically to call

00:57:31.980 for a boycott

00:57:32.840 I think it's high time

00:57:34.680 I mean

00:57:35.160 boycotting

00:57:36.040 in general terms

00:57:36.940 is kind of a lefty thing

00:57:38.180 kind of broadly speaking

00:57:40.140 but

00:57:40.700 it does

00:57:41.600 it can work

00:57:42.580 it does and can work

00:57:44.200 yeah I mean

00:57:44.960 even in recent times

00:57:45.940 yeah

00:57:46.200 but the Bud Light

00:57:47.040 one was a good one

00:57:48.280 good example

00:57:49.000 Gillette

00:57:50.000 just stop giving them

00:57:51.180 your money

00:57:51.680 yeah

00:57:52.120 so okay

00:57:53.140 for anyone who might

00:57:54.480 not know

00:57:55.100 and I think anyone

00:57:56.480 that is in Britain

00:57:57.300 will know

00:57:58.020 but yeah

00:57:59.340 as I say

00:57:59.740 this

00:58:00.080 this phenomenon

00:58:02.400 now

00:58:02.960 of Deliveroo

00:58:04.740 Just Eat

00:58:06.300 and Uber Eats

00:58:07.260 are sort of the big

00:58:07.840 the big three

00:58:08.620 platforms

00:58:09.900 companies

00:58:11.420 that

00:58:12.380 employ

00:58:13.480 completely

00:58:14.560 undocumented

00:58:15.340 migrants

00:58:16.520 to

00:58:17.720 on a

00:58:18.560 on a

00:58:18.920 on a bicycle

00:58:19.700 or an electric bicycle

00:58:21.200 to come and deliver food

00:58:22.880 directly to your home

00:58:24.000 including like

00:58:24.580 Greg's

00:58:25.140 and McDonald's

00:58:26.420 yeah

00:58:26.680 right

00:58:27.340 and

00:58:28.960 you can't

00:58:30.680 not notice

00:58:32.320 that

00:58:33.160 everyone knows

00:58:34.420 in the same way

00:58:35.340 that everyone knows

00:58:35.980 about all the Turkish

00:58:36.860 barbers

00:58:37.420 and the moment

00:58:38.140 just everyone knows

00:58:39.360 all the fake

00:58:40.100 vape shops

00:58:41.080 right

00:58:41.400 yes

00:58:41.860 you really

00:58:43.320 really can't fail

00:58:44.400 to notice

00:58:45.060 the sort of swarms

00:58:46.120 of these delivery drivers

00:58:47.940 and it's all

00:58:50.380 relatively new

00:58:51.460 as well

00:58:51.740 it wasn't the case

00:58:52.520 like even

00:58:53.220 well ten years ago

00:58:55.180 five years ago

00:58:55.800 it was minimal

00:58:56.280 ten years ago

00:58:57.040 sort of

00:58:57.560 non-existent

00:58:58.380 and people may think

00:59:00.960 that some things

00:59:02.060 I've just said there

00:59:02.760 I've sort of

00:59:03.500 I'm mischaracterising it

00:59:04.720 as a far right stance

00:59:06.140 to say all the things

00:59:07.020 I said about

00:59:07.580 migrants

00:59:08.840 non-documented migrants

00:59:10.360 but it really is the case

00:59:11.540 it's been shown

00:59:12.200 and even

00:59:13.120 even the sun

00:59:15.360 I mean let's just

00:59:16.020 actually watch a bit

00:59:16.900 of this video

00:59:17.480 where the sun did

00:59:18.440 some investigative

00:59:19.220 journalism on it

00:59:20.620 can you put the sound up

00:59:22.760 oh okay

00:59:23.480 I'll do it

00:59:24.320 let's just start this again

00:59:28.700 asylum seekers are being

00:59:29.780 offered Deliveroo

00:59:30.660 and Just Eat accounts

00:59:31.940 within ten minutes

00:59:32.860 of asking for them

00:59:33.840 as thousands work

00:59:35.100 illegally for the apps

00:59:36.280 across the country

00:59:37.220 we went undercover

00:59:38.820 to expose how easy

00:59:40.140 it is for illegal immigrants

00:59:41.500 who have just arrived

00:59:42.560 in the UK

00:59:43.100 to join the massive

00:59:44.700 black market economy

00:59:46.020 and at hotels

00:59:47.500 in London and Bournemouth

00:59:48.660 we witnessed

00:59:49.260 dozens

00:59:49.700 just to say

00:59:50.920 yeah just these bikes

00:59:52.700 like constantly

00:59:55.100 hanging around

00:59:56.020 all sorts of

00:59:57.380 not just McDonald's

00:59:59.600 and Gregg's

01:00:00.080 but loads and loads

01:00:01.000 of different

01:00:01.500 takeaway places

01:00:02.460 they're just sort of

01:00:03.840 constantly

01:00:04.540 constantly there

01:00:05.860 I mean like a swarm

01:00:06.800 of them

01:00:07.220 they're ubiquitous

01:00:08.360 absolutely ubiquitous

01:00:09.600 they drive absolutely

01:00:10.880 recklessly

01:00:11.380 there's that too

01:00:12.280 Peter Hitchin is really

01:00:13.660 grieving there

01:00:14.060 it is actually

01:00:14.540 a little bit dangerous

01:00:15.280 they are quite dangerous

01:00:17.020 no no seriously

01:00:17.720 they're quite dangerous

01:00:18.740 and as it gets worse

01:00:20.820 I mean we have the same

01:00:21.820 problem with these

01:00:22.540 small motorbikes

01:00:23.200 in Lebanon

01:00:23.600 and god

01:00:25.480 they are such

01:00:26.720 a hazard

01:00:27.380 on the road

01:00:28.200 even in a country

01:00:30.440 like Lebanon

01:00:30.980 where you just

01:00:31.580 expect hazard

01:00:32.460 everywhere

01:00:32.980 you know

01:00:34.220 and here

01:00:35.600 no offence

01:00:37.100 but British drivers

01:00:38.100 are not used

01:00:38.860 to sort of

01:00:39.360 monitoring 360 degrees

01:00:41.240 because they don't know

01:00:42.100 where

01:00:42.460 where somebody

01:00:43.760 might jump onto the road

01:00:44.900 British drivers

01:00:46.020 are used to driving

01:00:46.640 in an orderly way

01:00:47.460 just whizzing

01:00:49.380 around corners

01:00:50.020 yeah because

01:00:50.620 you know

01:00:51.360 a lot of them

01:00:51.940 are migrants

01:00:52.900 that have come here

01:00:53.500 very very recently

01:00:54.440 yeah

01:00:54.740 and they're sort of

01:00:55.880 not used to

01:00:57.120 what like

01:00:57.500 our green cross code

01:00:58.520 they don't have

01:00:59.320 licenses

01:00:59.800 in a lot of cases

01:01:00.960 yeah

01:01:01.300 so

01:01:01.740 even when they're

01:01:02.620 on these motorbikes

01:01:03.880 they don't care

01:01:04.500 yeah they don't care

01:01:05.240 they know the police

01:01:05.740 isn't going to stop them

01:01:06.620 yeah

01:01:06.900 and so they just

01:01:07.640 beyond

01:01:09.500 beyond the

01:01:11.040 the illegals

01:01:11.860 being in

01:01:12.460 these companies

01:01:13.160 as well

01:01:13.640 it's just

01:01:14.380 phenomenally rare

01:01:16.020 to actually see

01:01:17.280 someone ethnically

01:01:18.140 English

01:01:18.860 yes

01:01:19.400 to see someone

01:01:20.480 British

01:01:20.980 hardly ever

01:01:21.880 working these jobs

01:01:22.360 do you ever see

01:01:23.140 a British

01:01:23.460 hardly ever

01:01:24.000 I did a double take

01:01:24.800 one time

01:01:25.360 because I actually

01:01:26.200 saw one

01:01:26.700 I was like

01:01:26.900 bloody hell

01:01:27.340 is that

01:01:27.660 Uber rider

01:01:29.040 actually British

01:01:29.920 you know

01:01:30.440 it was that rare

01:01:31.360 let's just

01:01:32.120 clear on with this

01:01:32.800 real quick

01:01:32.980 migrants in the

01:01:34.060 full uniforms

01:01:34.920 of Deliveroo

01:01:35.680 and Just Eat

01:01:36.480 coming and going

01:01:37.660 at all hours

01:01:38.600 of the day

01:01:39.140 to prove exactly

01:01:40.720 how easy it is

01:01:41.760 to get around

01:01:42.400 these supposedly

01:01:43.140 ironclad

01:01:44.120 work requirements

01:01:45.020 I posed as a

01:01:46.460 new arrival

01:01:47.000 into the UK

01:01:47.740 and joined forums

01:01:49.160 on Facebook

01:01:49.840 where accounts

01:01:50.880 are offered for sale

01:01:51.860 within 10 minutes

01:01:53.400 I've been contacted

01:01:54.300 by one so called

01:01:55.620 Deliveroo dealer

01:01:56.600 who has an account

01:01:57.800 I could rent

01:01:58.540 and begin immediately

01:01:59.940 working on

01:02:00.680 I started by telling

01:02:02.120 so just to make that

01:02:03.160 clear what's going on

01:02:03.940 there you need

01:02:04.520 like the right paperwork

01:02:05.480 in order to do this

01:02:06.440 so they've got a guy

01:02:07.880 that's got that

01:02:08.800 and then you just

01:02:10.080 rent his account

01:02:12.280 you could have

01:02:13.220 multiple people

01:02:14.240 dozens

01:02:14.580 maybe even hundreds

01:02:15.420 of people

01:02:16.560 using his account

01:02:17.820 to do this

01:02:18.580 so that's

01:02:20.320 just to be clear

01:02:21.440 that's what's going on here

01:02:22.660 so completely circumventing

01:02:24.820 the system

01:02:27.020 that a company

01:02:27.680 like Deliveroo

01:02:28.300 has put in place

01:02:28.900 and well

01:02:30.020 they will be aware

01:02:31.480 of what's going on

01:02:32.360 if this Sun reporter

01:02:34.320 is able to

01:02:35.320 sort of do this

01:02:36.200 with complete ease

01:02:37.300 telling him

01:02:37.980 I have arrived in the UK

01:02:39.960 and do not have the documents

01:02:41.820 making it clear

01:02:42.960 I had no right to work

01:02:44.760 but despite the law

01:02:46.400 he still told me

01:02:47.380 that wouldn't be a problem

01:02:48.500 and said

01:02:49.380 rent weekly cost

01:02:51.180 is £80

01:02:51.660 and monthly cost

01:02:53.420 is £200

01:02:54.120 I wanted to check

01:02:56.080 if he was sure

01:02:56.880 I wasn't going to get caught

01:02:58.220 and asked him

01:02:58.780 exactly how it works

01:03:00.480 he quickly replied

01:03:01.960 quote

01:03:02.400 okay

01:03:03.100 I will guide you through

01:03:04.560 whatever you don't understand

01:03:05.880 and show you how

01:03:06.640 everything works perfectly

01:03:08.040 in Deliveroo

01:03:09.120 he went on to tell me

01:03:10.760 that I wouldn't get caught

01:03:11.880 in any way

01:03:13.080 he also reassured me

01:03:14.820 Insula

01:03:16.120 yeah

01:03:17.080 so one

01:03:17.900 obviously that guy

01:03:18.660 whoever he is

01:03:19.400 and there's loads of these people

01:03:21.080 obviously he's

01:03:21.840 obviously he's a scumbag

01:03:22.800 he's a fifth columnist

01:03:25.360 a cuckoo in the nest

01:03:26.840 an enemy within the gates

01:03:28.220 okay

01:03:28.520 but the next thing

01:03:30.100 it does sort of

01:03:30.860 beg the question

01:03:31.280 Deliveroo themselves

01:03:32.060 or Justy

01:03:32.740 or Uber Eats

01:03:33.300 or whoever

01:03:33.720 what are they doing about this

01:03:36.360 we'll get on to that

01:03:36.920 in a moment

01:03:37.340 he has done this

01:03:38.160 many times

01:03:39.360 when it came to

01:03:40.820 proving my identity

01:03:41.780 I was told

01:03:42.580 that I don't need

01:03:43.280 to verify anything

01:03:44.300 as I was simply

01:03:45.360 renting an account

01:03:46.240 and not creating one

01:03:47.760 now moving on

01:03:49.180 to the money

01:03:49.660 he told me

01:03:50.760 quote

01:03:51.080 you can earn up to

01:03:52.260 £100 daily

01:03:53.600 though other dealers

01:03:55.080 said migrants

01:03:55.820 had made as much

01:03:56.600 as £250

01:03:57.780 and some we spoke to

01:03:59.700 said they were making

01:04:00.540 nearly £1,000 a week

01:04:02.120 we found another seller

01:04:03.900 offering Justy accounts

01:04:05.300 and

01:04:05.620 after raising the same fears

01:04:07.360 about being caught

01:04:08.240 the man told us

01:04:09.480 quote

01:04:09.800 it's no problem

01:04:10.880 if you do your job mate

01:04:12.320 a third seller told us

01:04:14.020 don't worry

01:04:14.980 leave that to me

01:04:16.220 it's my job

01:04:17.360 I will sort it out

01:04:18.580 on your behalf

01:04:19.480 migrants in hotels

01:04:21.540 have generally been

01:04:22.300 in Britain for less

01:04:23.120 than 12 months

01:04:24.000 meaning they are

01:04:24.600 supposedly banned

01:04:25.500 from working for cash

01:04:26.600 in any circumstances

01:04:28.300 even those here

01:04:29.700 for longer

01:04:30.160 are not allowed

01:04:30.860 to legally work

01:04:31.880 as delivery drivers

01:04:33.260 but at two packed

01:04:34.920 hotels in London

01:04:35.960 housing hundreds

01:04:37.040 of asylum seekers each

01:04:38.260 we took photos

01:04:39.600 of migrants

01:04:40.180 cycling off

01:04:41.040 while brazenly cloaked

01:04:42.260 in Deliveroo

01:04:42.980 Just Eat

01:04:43.800 and Uber Eats

01:04:44.860 branded jackets

01:04:45.880 One thing I'll quickly say

01:04:48.160 one thing I'll quickly say

01:04:49.740 but I'll reiterate it

01:04:51.060 is

01:04:51.380 in Bose Britain

01:04:52.960 if it was up to me

01:04:55.240 these companies

01:04:55.960 would be

01:04:56.700 stopped

01:04:57.460 they would be prescribed

01:04:59.560 they'd have to be

01:05:01.040 made to pay

01:05:02.000 billions in damages

01:05:03.140 they'd have to pay

01:05:04.660 billions in damages

01:05:05.500 you'd have to wipe out

01:05:06.300 their shareholders

01:05:06.860 and

01:05:07.440 their lenders

01:05:09.440 I would prescribe them

01:05:11.340 from operating

01:05:12.220 destroy the political

01:05:12.900 economy of them

01:05:13.960 One road e-bikes

01:05:15.800 worth over £1,000

01:05:17.120 while others use

01:05:18.380 you see this

01:05:19.360 everywhere now

01:05:20.200 something like this

01:05:22.020 I remember when

01:05:23.100 one of the migrant hotels

01:05:23.980 very near to these offices

01:05:25.220 one of the hotels

01:05:26.600 very near to this

01:05:27.160 very near

01:05:27.760 was being used

01:05:28.400 within days

01:05:29.780 of it being packed

01:05:30.740 suddenly

01:05:31.240 you just had

01:05:33.100 dozens and dozens

01:05:33.880 and dozens of bicycles

01:05:35.080 and some electronic bikes

01:05:37.160 chained up to the posts

01:05:39.420 the lampposts

01:05:40.320 directly outside

01:05:41.180 if they're literally

01:05:43.780 fresh off the boat

01:05:44.540 not a turn of phrase

01:05:45.400 but literally fresh off the boat

01:05:46.700 where did they get them from

01:05:49.060 where did they buy them from

01:05:49.920 they didn't

01:05:50.140 they're just stolen

01:05:50.700 so they come here

01:05:52.820 they get put in a hotel

01:05:53.520 in some town

01:05:54.220 somewhere

01:05:54.600 wherever it is

01:05:55.620 steal loads of bikes

01:05:57.200 and then

01:05:58.540 and then just use those bikes

01:05:59.680 to work in the

01:06:00.560 hidden economy

01:06:01.620 for someone like Deliveroo

01:06:03.300 despicable

01:06:04.580 whose tampered public hire bikes

01:06:06.520 like Lime Port Forest

01:06:08.120 and Santander's

01:06:09.600 Boris bikes

01:06:10.500 we found migrants

01:06:12.180 could rent Deliveroo

01:06:13.140 and Just Eat accounts

01:06:14.040 online

01:06:14.720 for as little as

01:06:15.760 £40 a week

01:06:16.860 by exploiting

01:06:17.740 a substitution loophole

01:06:19.580 it allows legitimate

01:06:21.020 account holders

01:06:21.760 to sublet work

01:06:22.820 even though signing up

01:06:24.200 for a delivery account

01:06:25.060 is generally free

01:06:26.080 okay you get the idea

01:06:27.620 actually good

01:06:29.020 good bit of journalism

01:06:29.760 here by this chap

01:06:30.440 so

01:06:32.040 I think

01:06:34.680 the

01:06:34.960 obviously it would be nice

01:06:36.660 if the government

01:06:37.440 did something about this

01:06:38.960 for us

01:06:40.120 obviously that would be nice

01:06:41.400 they don't seem to be

01:06:42.680 any massive hurry

01:06:43.760 we'll get into what they are

01:06:44.800 or aren't doing

01:06:45.320 but they're obviously

01:06:46.080 not in any massive hurry

01:06:47.520 no

01:06:48.180 even reform

01:06:49.660 to be fair

01:06:50.240 it's one of the things

01:06:51.000 reform

01:06:51.460 have said quite early

01:06:53.020 and I remember

01:06:53.500 Tice a few years ago

01:06:54.840 saying what are all

01:06:56.340 these fake sweet shops

01:06:57.480 going on

01:06:58.160 just mentioning

01:06:59.700 what are all these

01:07:00.540 barbers

01:07:01.300 why does one high street

01:07:02.340 need like eight barbers

01:07:03.540 so they do actually

01:07:05.460 talk about it a bit

01:07:06.040 more than most

01:07:06.740 but yeah

01:07:09.860 so it's just

01:07:10.700 it's just become clear

01:07:11.680 now that

01:07:12.280 this sort of thing

01:07:14.080 again it's ubiquitous

01:07:15.500 isn't it

01:07:15.780 you'll see it

01:07:16.240 absolutely everywhere

01:07:17.160 and the scale of it

01:07:20.060 is just massive

01:07:20.900 I think this is quite

01:07:23.120 a while ago now

01:07:24.060 isn't it

01:07:24.380 hilarious

01:07:24.760 no it wasn't too long ago

01:07:26.200 ministers are going to

01:07:28.340 sort of start

01:07:28.940 think about

01:07:29.580 talking about it

01:07:30.460 maybe

01:07:30.800 thank you

01:07:31.540 thanks for noticing

01:07:32.280 thanks for nothing

01:07:33.920 hundreds of delivery

01:07:36.200 drivers arrested

01:07:36.960 yeah well that's a drop

01:07:37.780 in the ocean

01:07:38.180 yes

01:07:38.820 so you're doing

01:07:40.660 almost nothing

01:07:41.740 because it says

01:07:42.440 arrested

01:07:42.740 they're deported

01:07:43.500 yeah

01:07:44.120 they'll be let

01:07:45.460 straight out

01:07:46.000 yeah of course

01:07:46.640 they will

01:07:46.900 and now we'll go

01:07:47.400 straight back

01:07:47.880 to the black economy

01:07:50.580 of what they're doing

01:07:51.320 yeah like

01:07:53.700 and some of these

01:07:55.320 companies have already

01:07:56.080 been revealed

01:07:57.220 I think

01:07:57.600 was this a while ago

01:07:58.600 now

01:07:58.920 yeah this is

01:08:00.140 a few years ago

01:08:01.140 a couple years ago

01:08:02.200 so yeah

01:08:03.460 we know that

01:08:04.520 that they know

01:08:06.060 like Uber

01:08:07.020 and delivery

01:08:07.900 they know

01:08:08.600 that they're breaking

01:08:09.800 the law

01:08:10.120 they know that we know

01:08:11.120 they're breaking the law

01:08:12.140 they're just still doing it

01:08:13.060 just still doing it

01:08:14.740 oh yeah

01:08:15.640 they'll not be

01:08:16.480 above

01:08:17.600 just using

01:08:18.460 children as well

01:08:19.480 look if you're 16

01:08:21.360 working as a delivery driver

01:08:23.120 good for you

01:08:23.880 but you should be

01:08:25.840 presumably

01:08:26.700 a British young man

01:08:28.300 doing your first job

01:08:29.160 right yeah

01:08:29.680 it is sort of a 16 year old

01:08:31.460 type job

01:08:32.100 it's a great

01:08:32.700 young man's job

01:08:33.980 it's a great job

01:08:35.220 for young people

01:08:35.900 in a safe society

01:08:38.120 where you assume

01:08:38.720 they wouldn't get attacked

01:08:39.460 or beaten

01:08:40.080 or stabbed

01:08:41.180 so

01:08:41.820 it ties together

01:08:44.520 in so many different ways

01:08:45.660 some of these

01:08:47.340 companies

01:08:47.940 started to complain

01:08:49.140 oh it'll push up

01:08:50.020 the price

01:08:50.660 of your delivery service

01:08:52.640 if the government

01:08:53.280 does anything

01:08:53.880 it cracks down

01:08:54.600 in any real way

01:08:55.340 so you're admitting

01:08:56.320 to breaking the law

01:08:57.220 that brazenly

01:08:58.180 yeah

01:08:59.360 seemingly yeah

01:09:00.280 breaking the law

01:09:01.260 in the name of you

01:09:02.280 having lower costs

01:09:03.400 on your illegally

01:09:04.240 delivered takeaway

01:09:05.200 thank you

01:09:05.800 and the thing I would say

01:09:06.840 that I never eat takeaway

01:09:07.500 but okay

01:09:08.000 the thing I would say

01:09:09.040 and I do try to not be

01:09:10.560 too judgy

01:09:11.320 right

01:09:12.120 in general

01:09:12.860 I don't like

01:09:14.160 when commentators

01:09:16.600 like us

01:09:16.980 just on some podcast

01:09:17.960 try and tell

01:09:18.740 the rest of the world

01:09:19.680 how to live their life

01:09:20.580 I don't particularly

01:09:22.200 like that

01:09:22.700 or engage in it

01:09:23.300 very often

01:09:23.680 but today I'm going to

01:09:24.600 always an exception

01:09:26.540 stop getting loads

01:09:28.120 of takeaway

01:09:28.520 all the time

01:09:29.060 yeah

01:09:29.420 like

01:09:30.000 why are you getting

01:09:31.420 McDonald's and Gregg's

01:09:32.860 delivered to your front door

01:09:33.920 you that gross

01:09:35.060 and lazy

01:09:35.680 like sort it out

01:09:38.820 sort your life out

01:09:40.360 if you're doing that

01:09:41.240 like it's disgusting

01:09:42.860 on a bicycle

01:09:43.240 start picking up

01:09:44.880 your own food

01:09:45.480 you know

01:09:45.880 like get a takeaway

01:09:47.400 every now and again

01:09:47.920 I'm not like that Puritan

01:09:49.120 like that's okay

01:09:50.240 but like if that's how you live

01:09:52.480 it's like most of your meals

01:09:53.800 are delivered to your door

01:09:54.660 by Uber Eats

01:09:55.900 like that's gross

01:09:57.880 you're gross

01:09:58.940 okay

01:10:00.020 so yeah

01:10:00.960 well

01:10:01.240 it'll cost you a bit more

01:10:03.280 yeah

01:10:04.040 at the cost of the fabric

01:10:05.400 of your own society

01:10:06.480 oh look

01:10:07.060 the home office

01:10:08.060 and delivery

01:10:08.620 working together

01:10:09.500 against illegal migrants

01:10:10.640 well not very hard

01:10:11.440 they're not working

01:10:12.700 very hard at that

01:10:13.480 it's a tiny bit of red meat

01:10:15.040 it's nonsense

01:10:16.080 isn't it really

01:10:17.220 especially when you have

01:10:19.060 all of this going on

01:10:19.980 in the major cities

01:10:21.340 as well

01:10:21.740 like London

01:10:22.420 and Birmingham

01:10:23.080 where they're already just

01:10:24.540 you know

01:10:25.100 swarmed with foreigners

01:10:26.760 it's like

01:10:27.460 who's going to really notice

01:10:29.160 who's going to really care

01:10:30.700 you know

01:10:32.220 they're already sympathetic

01:10:33.420 to everyone

01:10:34.540 outside of Britain

01:10:35.640 this is like

01:10:36.640 five years ago

01:10:37.580 Uber Eats says

01:10:38.300 it's going to stop

01:10:38.940 using gig economy workers

01:10:40.320 yeah well they haven't

01:10:41.820 they said that years ago

01:10:42.760 and just haven't

01:10:43.440 if anything

01:10:43.780 it's ramped up

01:10:44.680 exponentially

01:10:45.260 if anything

01:10:46.240 yeah

01:10:47.720 we're going to

01:10:48.960 we're going to keep

01:10:49.480 doing more checks

01:10:50.360 on illegal workers

01:10:51.400 no you're not

01:10:51.880 liars

01:10:52.900 lying

01:10:54.100 you could just

01:10:56.800 quickly

01:10:57.460 have them do a face scan

01:10:59.260 on a relatively new phone

01:11:01.400 like if they wanted to do it

01:11:03.340 it is very easily solvable

01:11:05.440 but the business model

01:11:06.960 relies on not doing it

01:11:08.260 yeah right

01:11:08.820 the business model

01:11:09.660 relies on illegal labour

01:11:12.280 that comes with a hugely

01:11:14.880 damaging effect to society

01:11:16.000 that's why I don't call it

01:11:16.780 slave labour

01:11:17.340 because

01:11:18.280 it's causing massive damage

01:11:21.060 in every other way

01:11:21.960 they're certainly not slaves

01:11:23.440 they're making half decent money

01:11:24.640 if they make a thousand pounds

01:11:26.720 a week

01:11:27.260 that's more than I make

01:11:28.220 with their meals

01:11:29.580 that's loads of money

01:11:30.320 that's a really good wage

01:11:31.700 a thousand pounds a week

01:11:32.860 with their meals covered

01:11:34.460 with their residents

01:11:35.760 that the hotel covered

01:11:36.680 so they're not paying rent

01:11:38.680 they're not paying for food

01:11:39.780 and they're not paying taxes

01:11:40.880 if you take home

01:11:42.580 four grand a month

01:11:43.600 that's decent

01:11:44.320 that's half decent money

01:11:45.240 in our country

01:11:45.940 yep

01:11:46.500 right now

01:11:47.080 yep

01:11:47.880 that's not too shabby

01:11:49.100 yep

01:11:49.700 but it is a big thing

01:11:51.320 it's a big

01:11:52.200 market

01:11:53.540 we're playing with

01:11:55.000 tons of money here

01:11:55.860 look

01:11:56.120 again years ago

01:11:57.160 2019

01:11:58.000 a merger

01:12:01.100 between Just Eat

01:12:01.800 and Takeaway.com

01:12:02.940 8.2 billion

01:12:04.080 that deal was worth

01:12:04.980 yep

01:12:05.460 it's quite a few years ago

01:12:06.960 yeah

01:12:08.420 when Just Eat

01:12:09.520 did a deal

01:12:10.540 struck a deal

01:12:11.040 with McDonald's

01:12:11.720 and Greggs

01:12:12.840 it's 40%

01:12:14.120 40%

01:12:15.400 of lazy people

01:12:16.560 getting their

01:12:17.500 Greggs and McDonald's

01:12:18.600 delivered to them

01:12:19.140 all the time

01:12:19.680 rather than

01:12:20.200 go outside

01:12:21.040 travel

01:12:21.760 go there

01:12:22.440 I could fit in

01:12:23.580 another episode

01:12:24.260 of Netflix

01:12:25.040 you know

01:12:25.840 just have it brought to me

01:12:27.820 David Cameron

01:12:29.460 chipped in

01:12:30.040 saying it's ludicrous

01:12:31.240 to blame the gig economy

01:12:32.520 for mass migration

01:12:33.460 no it isn't

01:12:34.680 what are you talking about

01:12:35.580 Dave

01:12:35.900 it's literally true

01:12:36.660 what are you talking about

01:12:37.480 Dave

01:12:37.900 you dickhead

01:12:39.520 right

01:12:40.920 so the hidden economy

01:12:41.840 the hidden economy

01:12:43.320 is what they like

01:12:43.840 that everyone can see

01:12:44.760 the black economy

01:12:45.480 the illegal economy

01:12:46.920 is massive

01:12:48.080 it's sort of 10%

01:12:49.080 it's something like

01:12:49.760 10%

01:12:50.600 of the UK economy

01:12:53.240 that's mad

01:12:54.340 look years ago

01:12:56.400 it was worth

01:12:57.160 150 billion

01:12:58.060 just a straight up

01:12:59.160 Google search

01:12:59.860 just a simple

01:13:02.120 Google search

01:13:02.880 says it's between

01:13:03.580 10 and 11%

01:13:04.740 and I think

01:13:06.000 it was either

01:13:06.580 Lewis Brackpaw

01:13:07.240 one of the voice

01:13:07.860 of Wales chaps

01:13:08.660 came on

01:13:09.660 a while ago

01:13:10.760 and went into this

01:13:11.940 in some detail

01:13:12.500 and it does seem

01:13:13.060 that it's something

01:13:13.920 in the order of 10%

01:13:15.080 maybe a touch more

01:13:16.000 of the entire economy

01:13:17.760 is this hidden stuff

01:13:20.080 so like

01:13:20.760 it's not just delivery

01:13:21.800 and just eats

01:13:22.400 delivery drivers

01:13:23.100 it's also

01:13:23.600 the fake barbers

01:13:25.660 the fake sweet shops

01:13:26.500 the fake vape shops

01:13:27.400 on and on

01:13:28.060 which are just

01:13:28.600 fronts for money laundering

01:13:29.400 lots and lots of drugs

01:13:30.300 lots and lots of people

01:13:31.440 people trafficking

01:13:33.100 lots and lots of prostitution

01:13:34.300 so okay

01:13:36.460 so what I would say

01:13:37.880 is

01:13:38.800 because a lot of people

01:13:39.820 say this

01:13:40.260 when we moan

01:13:41.360 on the internet

01:13:42.020 well what can I do

01:13:43.180 I'm just one person

01:13:44.420 I can't control government

01:13:46.220 I've only got one vote

01:13:47.160 what can I really do

01:13:47.880 well what you can do

01:13:49.120 is boycott them

01:13:50.100 boycott them all

01:13:51.500 don't spend your money

01:13:53.640 with them

01:13:54.140 delete your apps

01:13:55.140 yes

01:13:55.740 stop giving them money

01:13:57.820 stop transferring

01:14:00.100 our wealth

01:14:00.820 to them

01:14:01.480 because I only send it

01:14:02.620 home anyway

01:14:03.140 mostly

01:14:04.220 stop

01:14:05.820 giving them money

01:14:07.340 they are stealing

01:14:08.180 from us in essence

01:14:09.320 or not even in essence

01:14:10.540 just literally

01:14:11.880 they're stealing jobs

01:14:13.040 from young people

01:14:13.740 they're stealing safety

01:14:15.480 from everybody

01:14:16.160 right

01:14:17.440 and they're stealing welfare

01:14:18.380 and they're stealing welfare

01:14:19.760 you think in a different

01:14:20.820 well not that I'm

01:14:21.820 I mean I'd still have

01:14:23.580 my contentions

01:14:24.360 with like delivering

01:14:25.080 justice regardless

01:14:26.080 but in another world

01:14:27.440 you'd think it'd be

01:14:28.780 an entry level job

01:14:30.180 which is what it should be

01:14:31.360 right

01:14:31.580 which is what it should be

01:14:32.500 like work over the summer

01:14:33.460 yeah

01:14:34.000 make a few quid

01:14:35.000 yeah

01:14:35.300 have some pocket

01:14:36.660 some pocket money

01:14:37.700 learn some financial

01:14:38.460 responsibility

01:14:39.100 learn how the system works

01:14:40.800 get some experience

01:14:41.860 it's not a bad thing

01:14:42.860 but instead

01:14:43.460 it's good to work

01:14:44.800 if you're 15

01:14:45.520 14

01:14:45.980 17

01:14:46.360 it's good to have a

01:14:47.820 you know

01:14:48.540 job appropriate

01:14:49.720 for your age

01:14:50.320 absolutely

01:14:51.880 it's like being a paper boy

01:14:53.240 exactly

01:14:53.940 like maybe a delivery driver

01:14:55.520 a pizza dude

01:14:56.240 exactly

01:14:56.720 or whatever

01:14:57.280 there's nothing wrong with it

01:14:58.180 it's actually healthy

01:14:59.140 in the summer

01:14:59.780 you go and pick strawberries

01:15:00.880 somewhere

01:15:01.420 yeah

01:15:01.800 exactly

01:15:02.300 you learn how to be on time

01:15:03.620 you learn responsibility

01:15:04.540 you learn that you've

01:15:06.040 got to interact with people

01:15:07.180 it builds up your confidence

01:15:08.640 it gives you a little bit

01:15:10.160 of financial independence

01:15:11.000 it's healthy for you

01:15:11.860 they're taking

01:15:12.800 an opportunity away

01:15:14.260 so it should be seen as such

01:15:16.240 and the argument

01:15:17.300 always comes back

01:15:18.260 doesn't it

01:15:18.740 it's like well

01:15:19.380 British people

01:15:20.400 wouldn't want to do

01:15:21.420 those jobs

01:15:21.980 would they

01:15:22.340 it's like well

01:15:22.940 if you stopped

01:15:23.620 importing all the illegals

01:15:25.660 and the mass immigration

01:15:27.300 and suppressing the wages

01:15:28.460 then you'd have to pay

01:15:29.620 them a fair wage

01:15:30.460 and you would make

01:15:31.220 those jobs more attractive

01:15:32.240 to them anyway

01:15:32.800 when you go around

01:15:33.560 London

01:15:34.180 at around

01:15:34.860 when it sort of

01:15:36.280 stops being lunch hour

01:15:37.620 2 to 4pm

01:15:39.020 something like that

01:15:39.840 you will see

01:15:41.280 gaggles

01:15:43.160 of Algerian men

01:15:44.740 or

01:15:45.600 African men

01:15:48.100 or whatever

01:15:49.120 hanging around

01:15:50.400 with each other

01:15:50.940 between

01:15:51.540 peak hours

01:15:52.820 and they'll be

01:15:54.240 normally spoken pot

01:15:55.580 and they will be

01:15:58.600 clearly not from there

01:15:59.740 and you can imagine

01:16:00.800 if you were a

01:16:02.500 British 16 year old

01:16:03.680 doing that job

01:16:04.540 and you went

01:16:05.340 to hang around

01:16:06.440 with your colleagues

01:16:07.100 you would pretty quickly

01:16:08.380 get stabbed

01:16:08.980 because it's not your culture

01:16:12.180 and they don't like you

01:16:12.920 so

01:16:14.180 there's this dishonesty

01:16:15.960 to it

01:16:16.540 that oh

01:16:17.320 these guys are poor victims

01:16:18.560 they're not harming anyone

01:16:19.320 no no

01:16:19.640 this is a real

01:16:20.740 observable social harm

01:16:22.500 indeed

01:16:22.920 and they've got

01:16:24.100 gangs of their own

01:16:25.480 so sometimes

01:16:26.080 it's now emerging

01:16:27.420 that

01:16:28.180 rival factions

01:16:29.820 of delivery drivers

01:16:31.080 fighting each other

01:16:32.140 sometimes even with

01:16:33.300 machetes and stuff

01:16:34.040 the Afghans

01:16:34.620 fighting the Iraqis

01:16:35.680 yeah

01:16:36.140 you see that

01:16:36.740 delivery driver

01:16:38.240 turf wars

01:16:39.060 which are also

01:16:39.960 obviously

01:16:40.980 ethnic and sectarian

01:16:42.560 in nature as well

01:16:43.380 as they would be

01:16:44.280 as they would be

01:16:45.060 so I say

01:16:45.900 boycott

01:16:46.740 just

01:16:47.360 and it's a double whammy

01:16:48.480 because one

01:16:48.940 you stop giving them money

01:16:50.220 to send home

01:16:51.500 and two

01:16:52.180 you put the money

01:16:52.840 in the pockets

01:16:53.820 of actual

01:16:54.660 British businesses

01:16:56.060 so whatever it is

01:16:57.780 spend your money

01:16:59.600 with businesses

01:17:01.240 that are

01:17:01.920 just do it responsibly

01:17:03.040 yeah

01:17:03.260 because boycotts

01:17:04.900 can and do work

01:17:06.340 if they're widespread enough

01:17:07.240 they can and do work

01:17:08.160 and they can work

01:17:08.720 real fast sometimes

01:17:09.660 the history is littered

01:17:12.100 with examples

01:17:12.900 of when

01:17:14.640 there's all types

01:17:15.480 different types of boycotts

01:17:16.500 aren't there

01:17:16.800 like political ones

01:17:17.900 sporting ones

01:17:19.400 but I'm obviously

01:17:22.000 talking about commercial

01:17:23.100 commercial ones

01:17:24.620 I mean

01:17:25.460 just look at

01:17:26.480 the Townsend Act

01:17:27.840 and the American Revolution

01:17:30.260 boycotting British goods

01:17:32.580 in the 13 colonies

01:17:34.540 all the way through

01:17:36.500 to sort of

01:17:36.960 boycotting grapes

01:17:37.800 in California

01:17:38.460 in the 60s

01:17:39.060 boycotting buses

01:17:39.900 in the south

01:17:40.680 in the 50s

01:17:42.080 but loads and loads

01:17:43.760 of boycotts

01:17:44.040 all the way through

01:17:44.600 to sort of

01:17:45.520 bad luck

01:17:46.000 right

01:17:46.400 boycotting can and does work

01:17:48.340 if it's

01:17:48.900 widespread enough

01:17:50.460 so that's what I say

01:17:51.200 that would be my message

01:17:52.400 if anyone's worried

01:17:53.800 what can I do

01:17:54.640 I'm seeing my country

01:17:56.140 dissolving before my very eyes

01:17:58.160 I'm completely powerless

01:17:59.780 I can do nothing

01:18:00.540 well you can stop spending

01:18:01.520 you can stop giving them money

01:18:02.660 stop giving our enemies

01:18:04.660 money

01:18:05.260 you can do that

01:18:06.260 it might be slightly

01:18:07.780 more expensive for you

01:18:08.660 it might be slightly

01:18:09.260 more inconvenient

01:18:09.980 you might have

01:18:10.980 like your local corner shop

01:18:12.760 or your local barbers

01:18:13.680 or whatever

01:18:13.980 you have to go a bit

01:18:14.600 further afield

01:18:15.220 maybe pay a touch more

01:18:16.500 but do that

01:18:17.320 if you can

01:18:17.920 but that's the point

01:18:18.680 isn't it

01:18:19.140 these CEOs

01:18:19.780 and these people

01:18:20.420 own that company

01:18:21.120 who are aware of

01:18:22.620 what's going on

01:18:23.520 they've wagered

01:18:24.980 your convenience

01:18:25.880 yeah

01:18:26.880 yes

01:18:27.200 right

01:18:27.520 I say

01:18:28.540 taken it

01:18:29.360 that you'll

01:18:30.080 you'll take that

01:18:31.020 for your own convenience

01:18:32.040 I say it's your

01:18:32.760 patriotic duty

01:18:33.900 to not use Deliveroo

01:18:35.660 Just Eats

01:18:36.160 and Uber Eats

01:18:36.780 absolutely

01:18:37.940 absolutely

01:18:39.500 England expects

01:18:40.420 every man will delete

01:18:42.640 his Deliveroo app

01:18:43.560 yeah

01:18:43.780 yeah

01:18:44.360 okay

01:18:45.660 that's the segment

01:18:46.820 fantastic

01:18:47.600 thank you

01:18:48.160 all right

01:18:48.980 I've got

01:18:49.760 that's random name

01:18:51.660 says

01:18:51.980 the reason the general public

01:18:53.020 don't care about

01:18:53.820 stuff like Deliveroo

01:18:54.800 is because the older

01:18:55.900 generations

01:18:56.540 in my experience

01:18:57.760 don't care about

01:18:58.900 us younger people

01:18:59.780 they only care

01:19:00.700 about their comfort

01:19:01.740 well I mean

01:19:03.080 it's one of those things

01:19:04.100 that on paper

01:19:05.480 I do agree

01:19:06.480 but at the same time

01:19:07.960 do I think it about

01:19:09.340 my own parents

01:19:10.160 do most people

01:19:11.280 think that about

01:19:11.960 you know

01:19:12.260 it's like the people

01:19:12.960 you actually know

01:19:13.900 in your own life

01:19:15.140 yeah

01:19:15.500 you know

01:19:16.220 it's a difficult one

01:19:17.320 I appreciate the

01:19:18.660 sentiment behind it

01:19:19.700 but yeah

01:19:21.740 let's be careful

01:19:22.700 about that

01:19:23.320 and then just a few

01:19:25.140 from YouTube

01:19:25.900 says

01:19:26.900 Carr says

01:19:29.000 Renfrew Street

01:19:30.040 in Glasgow

01:19:30.600 is lined with

01:19:31.420 five or six

01:19:32.200 small hotels

01:19:33.080 and B&Bs

01:19:33.920 every single one

01:19:35.260 of them on this

01:19:35.860 street has these

01:19:36.720 bikes parked

01:19:37.560 outside

01:19:38.100 every hotel

01:19:39.200 is owned by

01:19:39.860 someone without

01:19:40.600 a British name

01:19:41.600 right

01:19:43.200 and so often

01:19:44.060 is the case

01:19:44.620 as well

01:19:45.060 this is the reality

01:19:46.020 of our country

01:19:46.840 up and down

01:19:47.540 did he say Glasgow

01:19:48.720 he did

01:19:49.320 so yeah

01:19:50.080 from the top

01:19:51.820 of the island

01:19:52.300 to the bottom

01:19:52.920 everywhere

01:19:53.940 yeah

01:19:54.800 and then

01:19:56.060 Wendy Kirkland

01:19:57.260 says

01:19:57.700 Fiona Campbell

01:19:58.460 was stoned

01:19:59.600 until bleeding

01:20:00.260 as she walked

01:20:01.040 across Morocco

01:20:01.740 for simply being

01:20:02.620 a female

01:20:03.080 out in public

01:20:04.100 do we want

01:20:05.240 this in the UK

01:20:05.940 I don't

01:20:07.140 good question

01:20:07.720 don't you remember

01:20:08.180 the horrific case

01:20:09.000 of those two

01:20:09.580 Scandinavian girls

01:20:10.560 yeah

01:20:10.800 absolutely

01:20:12.060 we've got

01:20:14.260 Mr. Scary

01:20:14.960 the Terry

01:20:16.240 says

01:20:16.580 glad to see

01:20:16.980 the fellas

01:20:17.360 back on YouTube

01:20:18.080 thank you

01:20:18.620 glad to be

01:20:19.180 back on it

01:20:20.220 Val

01:20:21.080 politics

01:20:21.580 says

01:20:21.900 got delivery

01:20:22.540 today

01:20:23.100 let's say

01:20:24.040 he didn't

01:20:24.520 look like a

01:20:25.060 Greg

01:20:25.260 delete

01:20:26.120 Val

01:20:26.780 delete

01:20:27.480 that'll be

01:20:27.960 the last

01:20:28.260 one you

01:20:28.520 ever have

01:20:29.000 you hear

01:20:29.300 me

01:20:29.520 and

01:20:31.680 Mighty

01:20:34.060 Val

01:20:34.320 just for a

01:20:34.980 Monty Python

01:20:35.560 well he did

01:20:36.740 say Jehovah

01:20:37.440 he said it

01:20:39.280 again

01:20:39.580 alright let's

01:20:42.740 go to the

01:20:43.220 video comments

01:20:44.140 a quick

01:20:47.800 question for

01:20:48.560 Luca

01:20:48.900 with regards

01:20:50.200 to your

01:20:51.040 Chronicles

01:20:51.940 series

01:20:52.580 would you

01:20:54.040 ever consider

01:20:54.780 discussing

01:20:55.540 The Pilgrim's

01:20:56.700 Progress

01:20:57.180 by John Bunyan

01:20:59.100 and perhaps

01:21:01.040 as a

01:21:02.000 follow-up

01:21:02.500 of sorts

01:21:03.200 C.S.

01:21:04.320 Lewis's

01:21:04.860 The Pilgrim's

01:21:05.720 Regress

01:21:06.400 I absolutely

01:21:08.780 would

01:21:09.200 as regards

01:21:10.780 to any

01:21:12.520 rhyme or

01:21:13.080 reason

01:21:13.420 as to

01:21:14.140 what

01:21:14.420 chronicle

01:21:14.860 I do

01:21:15.280 when

01:21:15.860 it's

01:21:16.540 really

01:21:16.760 just as

01:21:17.120 simple

01:21:17.340 as some

01:21:17.900 works

01:21:18.740 take longer

01:21:19.480 to research

01:21:20.200 longer to

01:21:20.780 read

01:21:21.140 than others

01:21:21.820 and so

01:21:22.580 I just

01:21:23.180 have to do

01:21:23.680 it around

01:21:24.000 my flexibility

01:21:24.600 and the

01:21:25.120 time that

01:21:25.540 I have

01:21:25.740 available

01:21:26.180 but yes

01:21:27.260 I will be

01:21:27.820 more than

01:21:28.220 happy to

01:21:28.620 cover them

01:21:29.120 at some

01:21:29.800 point in

01:21:30.160 the future

01:21:30.620 particularly

01:21:31.580 some C.S.

01:21:32.340 Lewis works

01:21:32.880 particularly

01:21:33.300 science fiction

01:21:34.200 works as

01:21:35.280 well I'd be

01:21:35.720 really keen

01:21:36.420 to go into

01:21:37.860 those because

01:21:38.360 I've never

01:21:38.860 actually had

01:21:39.280 the chance

01:21:39.580 to read

01:21:39.900 them

01:21:40.120 did he

01:21:40.600 say

01:21:40.740 Pilgrim's

01:21:41.160 Progress

01:21:41.440 he did

01:21:41.840 yeah yeah

01:21:42.460 Piers Plowman

01:21:43.380 classic

01:21:44.440 absolute

01:21:45.400 classic

01:21:46.820 anyway

01:21:47.180 there's so

01:21:47.860 many aren't

01:21:48.260 there

01:21:48.380 there are

01:21:48.680 so many

01:21:49.300 many

01:21:49.620 it's commando

01:21:55.760 isn't it

01:21:56.300 hot fuzz

01:22:06.820 isn't it

01:22:07.160 yeah

01:22:07.340 yeah

01:22:07.680 so dark

01:22:12.020 but it's a

01:22:12.960 very funny

01:22:13.420 past

01:22:13.840 I always think

01:22:14.600 in those films

01:22:15.220 it's the

01:22:15.640 classic arming

01:22:16.540 scene like

01:22:17.140 in the

01:22:17.540 Iliad

01:22:17.960 there's a

01:22:18.760 whole scene

01:22:19.300 of strapping

01:22:19.760 your armour

01:22:20.200 on

01:22:20.460 getting your

01:22:22.000 weapons ready

01:22:22.740 my radio

01:22:25.520 alarm set

01:22:26.160 to a local

01:22:26.660 CBC radio

01:22:27.440 station

01:22:27.900 played an

01:22:28.360 article with

01:22:28.840 a typical

01:22:29.240 activist

01:22:29.700 complaining

01:22:30.180 that

01:22:30.560 insert

01:22:31.120 system

01:22:31.580 or function

01:22:32.120 is completely

01:22:32.860 broken

01:22:33.240 in need

01:22:33.740 of total

01:22:34.160 reform

01:22:34.700 it's typical

01:22:35.800 of activists

01:22:36.300 to push

01:22:36.700 their own

01:22:37.080 reforms

01:22:37.440 which would

01:22:37.920 count to

01:22:38.420 their expectation

01:22:39.280 then completely

01:22:40.100 break said

01:22:40.820 system

01:22:41.320 I'd always

01:22:42.180 been annoyed

01:22:42.740 by a former

01:22:43.320 CEO refusing

01:22:44.340 to take

01:22:44.740 action on

01:22:45.220 an issue

01:22:45.620 unless people

01:22:46.160 could point

01:22:46.580 to something

01:22:47.000 good in

01:22:47.520 it on

01:22:47.880 which to

01:22:48.220 build

01:22:48.460 reform

01:22:48.920 annoyed

01:22:49.780 because the

01:22:50.360 CEO's

01:22:50.940 hypocrisy

01:22:51.420 meant he

01:22:51.740 delayed

01:22:52.060 taking action

01:22:52.700 on a

01:22:53.060 rebranding

01:22:53.700 undertaken

01:22:54.260 by an

01:22:54.760 activist

01:22:55.280 interesting

01:22:59.120 is that all

01:23:01.580 the video

01:23:01.900 comments

01:23:02.240 Samson

01:23:02.620 yep

01:23:04.340 okay thank

01:23:05.200 you

01:23:05.360 I'll just

01:23:06.240 go through

01:23:06.600 a few

01:23:06.860 comments

01:23:07.200 from my

01:23:07.580 segment

01:23:07.940 Omar Awad

01:23:09.080 says

01:23:09.400 if Nigel

01:23:10.000 considers

01:23:10.500 appearing on

01:23:11.140 Celebrity Slop

01:23:12.320 it's a positive

01:23:13.300 entry on a

01:23:14.320 CV

01:23:14.620 it goes some

01:23:15.820 way to

01:23:16.120 explaining why

01:23:16.820 he still

01:23:17.200 humiliates

01:23:17.900 himself on

01:23:18.520 Cameo

01:23:19.240 yeah what

01:23:20.520 is that

01:23:20.920 about

01:23:21.260 I don't

01:23:22.060 know if

01:23:22.240 he still

01:23:22.440 does

01:23:22.620 it

01:23:22.740 if Omar

01:23:24.240 says he

01:23:24.720 does

01:23:25.180 then I'm

01:23:25.540 sure he

01:23:25.740 does

01:23:25.920 I think

01:23:26.440 he wouldn't

01:23:26.820 have time

01:23:27.480 I saw

01:23:28.400 some of

01:23:28.820 those I

01:23:29.180 wasn't even

01:23:29.480 searching for

01:23:29.840 it somehow

01:23:30.120 just come up

01:23:30.660 on my

01:23:30.860 timeline

01:23:31.260 and I

01:23:32.400 couldn't

01:23:32.620 believe I

01:23:32.980 assumed it

01:23:33.720 was a

01:23:33.980 fake I

01:23:34.340 assumed it

01:23:34.860 was AI

01:23:35.780 generated

01:23:36.880 he's saying

01:23:37.720 the most

01:23:37.980 stupid things

01:23:38.560 he's saying

01:23:38.980 skibbity and

01:23:40.260 winner winner

01:23:41.800 chicken dinner

01:23:42.400 and stuff

01:23:42.820 like that

01:23:43.260 it's like

01:23:43.940 wait this

01:23:44.860 is real

01:23:45.360 big chungus

01:23:46.280 big chungus

01:23:47.160 winner winner

01:23:47.640 chicken dinner

01:23:48.260 skibbity

01:23:48.880 I don't know

01:23:49.500 it was like

01:23:49.880 the most

01:23:50.400 embarrassing

01:23:51.040 cringe

01:23:51.680 nonsense

01:23:52.480 of all

01:23:52.800 time

01:23:53.120 and it

01:23:53.520 was real

01:23:53.880 for what

01:23:54.540 a few

01:23:54.960 shekels

01:23:56.100 really

01:23:56.480 aren't you

01:23:58.000 like a

01:23:58.340 prime minister

01:23:58.800 in waiting

01:23:59.480 Nige

01:24:00.000 what on

01:24:01.320 earth do

01:24:01.940 you think

01:24:02.120 you're doing

01:24:02.600 have some

01:24:03.260 self-respect

01:24:03.820 man

01:24:04.220 it's real

01:24:05.340 right

01:24:05.560 it's real

01:24:05.860 it's real

01:24:06.480 it's the sort

01:24:07.460 of thing

01:24:07.660 you'd expect

01:24:08.140 from washed

01:24:09.160 up celebs

01:24:10.160 or there

01:24:11.020 then

01:24:11.720 Kevin Fox

01:24:13.180 says

01:24:13.380 Nigel

01:24:13.780 can't

01:24:14.260 have anyone

01:24:14.840 forward

01:24:15.260 thinking

01:24:15.740 competent

01:24:16.360 dedicated

01:24:17.120 because it

01:24:18.040 might drag

01:24:18.500 the limelight

01:24:19.100 away from

01:24:19.620 him

01:24:19.840 yeah

01:24:20.540 absolutely

01:24:21.020 but

01:24:21.400 that's the

01:24:22.220 thing isn't

01:24:22.600 it

01:24:22.740 on the one

01:24:23.180 hand

01:24:23.460 you need

01:24:24.060 a really

01:24:24.640 really

01:24:24.900 competent

01:24:25.400 cabinet

01:24:25.920 and on the

01:24:27.460 other hand

01:24:27.860 you can't

01:24:28.260 have anyone

01:24:28.580 more competent

01:24:29.280 than yourself

01:24:29.880 and who's

01:24:30.500 able to

01:24:30.900 outshine

01:24:31.340 you

01:24:31.600 and

01:24:31.900 you've

01:24:32.900 got

01:24:33.020 it's a

01:24:33.180 very

01:24:33.320 middle eastern

01:24:33.740 way of

01:24:34.100 thinking

01:24:34.380 and it

01:24:35.080 wasn't like

01:24:35.520 this in

01:24:35.800 Britain

01:24:36.000 well he is

01:24:36.900 a fan of

01:24:37.280 Islam

01:24:37.520 so

01:24:38.680 it used to

01:24:39.460 be the way

01:24:39.740 that sometimes

01:24:40.100 they would

01:24:40.440 form

01:24:40.800 what they

01:24:41.880 would call

01:24:42.420 the government

01:24:43.300 of all the

01:24:44.200 talents

01:24:44.720 it used to

01:24:45.720 be the case

01:24:46.140 that sometimes

01:24:46.920 we know how

01:24:47.640 Trump picked

01:24:48.340 RFK

01:24:48.960 who's nominally

01:24:49.940 a democrat

01:24:50.480 right

01:24:51.080 it used to

01:24:51.400 be the case

01:24:51.880 and I'm

01:24:52.080 talking back

01:24:52.500 in like the

01:24:52.840 19th century

01:24:53.500 that yeah

01:24:54.100 you'd pick

01:24:54.540 someone from

01:24:55.060 the other

01:24:55.460 aisle

01:24:55.920 from the

01:24:56.620 other side

01:24:56.960 if they

01:24:57.260 were really

01:24:57.560 competent

01:24:57.940 everyone knew

01:24:59.080 they knew

01:24:59.660 the most

01:25:00.100 about a

01:25:00.900 particular

01:25:01.160 industry

01:25:01.620 so you

01:25:02.100 made them

01:25:02.540 the Secretary

01:25:03.280 of State

01:25:03.580 for that

01:25:03.900 industry

01:25:04.160 it was

01:25:04.420 all right

01:25:04.960 it was

01:25:06.000 that much

01:25:06.440 anymore

01:25:06.820 that requires

01:25:08.440 a level

01:25:08.760 of cohesion

01:25:09.740 and shared

01:25:11.020 objectives

01:25:11.600 and shared

01:25:12.160 values

01:25:12.740 and shared

01:25:13.180 interests

01:25:13.660 which come

01:25:15.040 from a shared

01:25:15.480 identity

01:25:15.980 and since you

01:25:16.960 don't have

01:25:17.360 that anymore

01:25:17.840 you can't

01:25:18.460 have that

01:25:18.760 anymore

01:25:19.120 sorry

01:25:20.780 just add

01:25:21.600 once more

01:25:22.120 the problem

01:25:22.600 in British

01:25:23.200 politics

01:25:23.700 at any rate

01:25:24.320 is there's

01:25:24.720 so little

01:25:25.160 talent

01:25:25.640 in either

01:25:26.380 aisle

01:25:26.680 so why

01:25:27.540 even bother

01:25:28.080 taking

01:25:28.560 from the

01:25:29.040 other one

01:25:29.480 and it

01:25:29.840 does also

01:25:30.280 require

01:25:30.600 from the

01:25:31.100 leader

01:25:31.560 a level

01:25:32.560 of like

01:25:33.220 you do

01:25:33.480 see in

01:25:33.760 Trump

01:25:33.900 at least

01:25:34.140 to some

01:25:34.460 small

01:25:34.740 extent

01:25:35.120 a level

01:25:35.700 of self

01:25:36.120 confidence

01:25:36.640 a level

01:25:38.160 of being

01:25:38.800 comfortable

01:25:39.200 enough in

01:25:39.600 your own

01:25:39.900 skin

01:25:40.160 in your own

01:25:40.600 position

01:25:40.980 that you

01:25:41.980 feel you

01:25:42.480 can do

01:25:42.940 that

01:25:43.220 that you're

01:25:44.220 not constantly

01:25:44.960 threatened by

01:25:45.480 anyone who

01:25:46.340 might challenge

01:25:47.500 for your

01:25:47.960 leadership at

01:25:48.500 some point

01:25:48.960 exactly right

01:25:49.720 unfortunately

01:25:50.260 that's one of

01:25:51.400 Nigel's shortfalls

01:25:53.140 it seems

01:25:53.560 is that

01:25:53.980 yep

01:25:54.460 seems to be

01:25:55.400 and if he's

01:25:56.560 not overcome

01:25:57.560 that after

01:25:58.580 several decades

01:25:59.520 probably never

01:26:00.520 will

01:26:00.860 it's hard

01:26:01.240 baked into his

01:26:01.780 personality

01:26:02.040 I would have

01:26:02.400 thought at this

01:26:02.780 point there's

01:26:03.400 no going back

01:26:04.160 on that

01:26:04.620 I don't

01:26:04.920 think

01:26:05.100 learn

01:26:05.780 who knows

01:26:09.120 what we'll

01:26:09.840 do in

01:26:10.380 government

01:26:10.560 we'll see

01:26:10.860 do you want to

01:26:11.680 go through

01:26:11.940 something else

01:26:12.380 for us

01:26:12.760 yeah sure

01:26:13.480 there's an

01:26:14.520 interesting one

01:26:14.900 of yours

01:26:15.180 that I'm

01:26:15.580 going to

01:26:15.780 mention

01:26:16.040 maybe a bit

01:26:17.040 of wishful

01:26:17.400 thinking

01:26:17.720 but perhaps

01:26:18.240 Nigel soaking

01:26:18.980 up the

01:26:19.300 wet Tories

01:26:19.900 could make

01:26:20.340 the Tory

01:26:20.640 party vulnerable

01:26:21.340 to a hostile

01:26:21.960 takeover

01:26:22.460 by low

01:26:22.940 please

01:26:25.000 it will be

01:26:26.800 an improvement

01:26:27.220 I'm begging

01:26:28.280 for the best

01:26:29.340 timeline

01:26:29.900 for the good

01:26:31.080 ending

01:26:31.540 to all of

01:26:32.360 this

01:26:32.960 yep

01:26:33.420 yep

01:26:33.960 Lord Inquisitor

01:26:36.740 Hector Rex

01:26:37.340 says have we

01:26:38.000 tried turning

01:26:38.580 France off

01:26:39.180 and on

01:26:39.520 again

01:26:40.460 as an

01:26:41.620 Englishman

01:26:42.200 many times

01:26:43.120 well they're

01:26:43.440 going to be

01:26:43.900 trying

01:26:44.300 there's a

01:26:46.060 massive wave

01:26:46.800 of protests

01:26:47.360 being organized

01:26:48.060 for tomorrow

01:26:48.640 and there's a

01:26:49.380 big wave

01:26:49.800 of strikes

01:26:50.260 on the 18th

01:26:51.120 of September

01:26:51.640 which are

01:26:52.620 things that I

01:26:53.060 forgot to

01:26:53.940 mention on my

01:26:54.420 show

01:26:55.180 so they

01:26:56.040 are going

01:26:56.380 to be

01:26:56.640 turning it

01:26:57.060 off

01:26:57.440 whether it

01:26:58.700 goes back

01:26:59.100 on again

01:26:59.720 is a

01:27:00.660 different

01:27:00.820 question

01:27:01.260 have they

01:27:02.580 still got

01:27:03.100 the

01:27:03.440 I was going

01:27:06.200 to say

01:27:06.420 the

01:27:06.560 son

01:27:06.780 culotte

01:27:07.080 it's not

01:27:07.320 the

01:27:07.440 son

01:27:07.620 culotte

01:27:07.920 are they

01:27:11.700 still going

01:27:12.320 are they

01:27:12.560 still doing

01:27:13.020 it

01:27:13.160 no

01:27:13.300 this is

01:27:13.700 being

01:27:13.940 reincarnated

01:27:14.660 into the

01:27:15.200 movement

01:27:15.780 that

01:27:16.040 starts

01:27:16.680 tomorrow

01:27:17.140 under a

01:27:18.200 different

01:27:18.440 name

01:27:18.860 called

01:27:19.420 block

01:27:20.300 or

01:27:20.480 let's

01:27:21.340 block

01:27:21.600 everything

01:27:21.980 and so

01:27:24.080 we'll

01:27:24.340 see how

01:27:24.940 that goes

01:27:25.520 tomorrow

01:27:25.900 but it

01:27:26.240 should be

01:27:26.680 an exciting

01:27:27.580 day

01:27:27.960 yeah

01:27:29.280 I need

01:27:29.740 the

01:27:29.840 son

01:27:30.000 culotte

01:27:30.300 yeah

01:27:30.860 um

01:27:32.500 Michael

01:27:34.080 I pronounce

01:27:37.680 it

01:27:37.920 in the

01:27:40.760 1940s

01:27:42.120 the French

01:27:42.960 planted

01:27:43.320 trees

01:27:43.800 along the

01:27:44.440 Champs-Elysees

01:27:45.020 because the

01:27:45.860 Germans

01:27:46.120 preferred

01:27:46.560 marching

01:27:47.000 in the

01:27:47.280 shade

01:27:47.660 now they're

01:27:48.660 cutting

01:27:49.020 those trees

01:27:49.740 down

01:27:50.140 because the

01:27:50.740 Muslims

01:27:51.020 prefer

01:27:51.360 the

01:27:51.520 sunshine

01:27:51.960 Derek

01:27:55.620 power

01:27:56.120 makes an

01:27:57.120 important

01:27:57.540 point

01:27:57.860 you don't

01:27:58.160 want

01:27:58.320 American

01:27:58.680 military

01:27:58.980 bases

01:27:59.260 in Europe

01:27:59.700 spend

01:28:00.080 and make

01:28:00.440 your own

01:28:00.700 defenses

01:28:01.060 the French

01:28:01.900 have done

01:28:02.340 that

01:28:02.620 the French

01:28:03.580 are the

01:28:03.860 only ones

01:28:04.420 with a

01:28:04.700 fully

01:28:04.900 vertically

01:28:05.340 integrated

01:28:05.860 defense

01:28:06.200 industry

01:28:06.640 the Brits

01:28:08.000 have completely

01:28:08.600 surrendered

01:28:09.060 the Germans

01:28:10.560 are in the

01:28:10.980 process of

01:28:11.460 surrendering

01:28:12.000 the Italians

01:28:13.340 have some

01:28:13.920 defense

01:28:14.220 capabilities

01:28:14.740 but none

01:28:15.300 of them

01:28:15.540 seems to

01:28:15.980 be focused

01:28:16.640 aside from

01:28:18.240 the French

01:28:18.700 nobody's

01:28:19.380 working on

01:28:19.820 building

01:28:20.180 independent

01:28:20.760 jets

01:28:21.220 and bombers

01:28:22.260 which you

01:28:23.400 must do

01:28:23.940 which you

01:28:24.820 absolutely

01:28:25.120 must do

01:28:25.580 but yes

01:28:25.980 this is a

01:28:26.360 valid point

01:28:26.920 the European

01:28:28.040 defense

01:28:28.880 has been

01:28:29.480 subsidized

01:28:30.160 and part

01:28:31.380 of the

01:28:31.560 reason for

01:28:32.020 it is

01:28:32.360 that

01:28:32.660 after the

01:28:34.260 Berlin Wall

01:28:35.060 fell

01:28:35.680 the Americans

01:28:36.760 didn't want

01:28:37.660 the Germans

01:28:38.240 to take over

01:28:38.900 Central Europe

01:28:39.440 security

01:28:39.920 and become

01:28:40.360 a threat

01:28:40.620 again

01:28:40.880 and so

01:28:41.760 they decided

01:28:42.220 to take

01:28:42.580 over it

01:28:42.900 themselves

01:28:43.300 and sort

01:28:43.700 of run

01:28:44.580 the show

01:28:45.020 the thing

01:28:46.300 is Britain's

01:28:46.740 got Trident

01:28:47.420 we have got

01:28:48.560 the Royal

01:28:49.060 Air Force

01:28:49.500 which is

01:28:49.700 completely

01:28:50.080 dependent

01:28:50.380 on the

01:28:50.780 Americans

01:28:51.000 yeah we

01:28:51.480 buy it

01:28:51.940 wholesale

01:28:52.240 off the

01:28:52.560 Americans

01:28:52.860 Trident is

01:28:53.760 completely

01:28:54.040 dependent

01:28:54.340 on the

01:28:54.620 Americans

01:28:54.820 yeah right

01:28:56.140 we pay for

01:28:57.460 that

01:28:57.680 we've got

01:28:58.140 that

01:28:58.500 there's the

01:29:00.000 Royal Air Force

01:29:00.440 for what it's

01:29:01.000 worth

01:29:01.360 I don't think

01:29:04.140 we need

01:29:04.980 loads of

01:29:05.920 American

01:29:06.340 US air force

01:29:07.140 bases in

01:29:07.800 Britain

01:29:08.000 because

01:29:08.460 it's not

01:29:09.340 1957

01:29:10.100 because I

01:29:12.160 don't think

01:29:12.900 the Rooskies

01:29:13.680 are going

01:29:14.280 to try

01:29:14.940 and

01:29:15.820 bombers

01:29:17.260 I don't

01:29:18.000 I don't

01:29:18.240 buy that

01:29:18.700 threat

01:29:19.000 I don't

01:29:19.420 buy it

01:29:19.860 so we

01:29:20.500 don't need

01:29:20.900 it

01:29:21.200 no

01:29:21.720 it's

01:29:22.280 yeah

01:29:23.800 yeah

01:29:24.460 if there

01:29:25.720 weren't US

01:29:26.280 bases would

01:29:26.880 there be

01:29:27.200 Russian bases

01:29:27.760 instead

01:29:28.220 listen to

01:29:29.000 Bo

01:29:29.180 appropriate

01:29:31.940 moment to

01:29:32.820 bring up

01:29:33.860 that question

01:29:34.360 do you want

01:29:34.920 me to read

01:29:35.220 through some

01:29:35.560 of yours

01:29:35.800 Bo

01:29:36.020 yeah go

01:29:37.100 on

01:29:37.180 if you

01:29:37.500 want

01:29:37.620 Kevin Fox

01:29:39.380 says

01:29:39.640 delivery

01:29:40.060 manager

01:29:40.520 says

01:29:41.040 Abdul is

01:29:41.780 our

01:29:41.980 best

01:29:42.240 delivery

01:29:42.660 rider

01:29:43.080 he puts

01:29:43.600 in a

01:29:43.840 32

01:29:44.260 hours

01:29:44.700 day

01:29:45.300 eight

01:29:45.640 days

01:29:45.900 a week

01:29:46.320 there you

01:29:47.620 go

01:29:47.840 seems to

01:29:48.380 be

01:29:48.620 he doesn't

01:29:49.400 deliver drugs

01:29:50.020 no no

01:29:51.060 definitely

01:29:51.680 not that

01:29:52.160 definitely

01:29:52.480 not

01:29:52.880 uh

01:29:53.260 Lord and

01:29:53.640 Cluster

01:29:53.880 Hector X

01:29:54.500 says

01:29:54.940 I do

01:29:55.820 like the

01:29:56.180 idea of

01:29:56.740 an ice

01:29:57.260 officer

01:29:57.720 delivering

01:29:58.460 my food

01:29:59.060 and informing

01:29:59.680 me my

01:30:00.140 rider has

01:30:00.820 been arrested

01:30:01.460 for being

01:30:02.060 illegal

01:30:02.580 that

01:30:03.620 that

01:30:03.640 would

01:30:03.780 sweet

01:30:04.220 god I

01:30:04.680 like that

01:30:05.020 idea

01:30:05.420 too

01:30:05.720 yeah

01:30:06.920 and then

01:30:08.040 Sophie

01:30:08.600 Liv

01:30:08.940 final comment

01:30:10.140 says

01:30:10.640 I'll just

01:30:11.160 say it

01:30:11.960 always a bit

01:30:13.580 of a

01:30:13.800 verbosing

01:30:14.240 sentence

01:30:14.860 I'll just

01:30:15.540 say it

01:30:15.960 when you're

01:30:16.660 ordering that

01:30:17.300 5000 calorie

01:30:18.440 pizza

01:30:18.920 you probably

01:30:19.540 can't

01:30:20.220 afford already

01:30:21.480 get off your

01:30:22.460 fat behind

01:30:23.080 and get

01:30:23.580 it yourself

01:30:24.800 if you don't

01:30:25.640 need the walk

01:30:26.220 already

01:30:26.620 you will

01:30:27.260 after eating

01:30:27.840 that slop

01:30:28.460 yeah

01:30:29.360 yes

01:30:29.920 based

01:30:30.520 well done

01:30:31.080 Sophie

01:30:31.460 all right

01:30:32.460 well that's

01:30:33.040 all we've got

01:30:33.440 time for today

01:30:34.200 ladies and

01:30:34.580 gentlemen

01:30:34.840 I hope you've

01:30:35.360 enjoyed the

01:30:35.800 show and

01:30:36.340 we'll see you

01:30:36.900 back here at

01:30:37.540 1pm tomorrow

01:30:38.640 have a good

01:30:39.400 day

01:30:39.680 thanks very

01:30:40.420 much

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 09, 2025

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