00:05:00.000I would like to start by looking at this clip of Trump.
00:05:04.640We might remember this clip very famously after the passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court because his reaction is very telling.
00:06:08.720Who was behind every impeachment attempt, every attempt to discredit him, drag his name through the mud, and that's how conciliatory he was to her memory.
00:06:38.720So I just wanted to go through some of the...
00:06:41.720You covered some of it yesterday, Dan, but also the fact that for many of these people, they are the most rabid, crazy people you'll ever see in your life.
00:06:52.720So this is an example of one of the lead developers for the Ghost of Tsushima sequel that's apparently coming out and she mocks the death of Charlie Kirk.
00:08:29.720I see that every single time something like this happens, this is the way these people, if I have to call them that, react.
00:08:38.720And the fact is that what makes this seem even worse and even more brutal is that we have all seen the video.
00:08:46.720I saw the video, I'm of the generation that grew up with live leaks, I never watched any live leaks.
00:08:54.720So I'm aware of what that was like in desensitising many people around my age, but I always avoided it because I knew I didn't have the stomach for it.
00:09:02.720Seeing the up-close footage of what happened to Charlie Kirk and knowing that his family was there to witness it and that his own daughter, scared by the loud noise, ran to him for seeking comfort.
00:09:15.720And he was presumably already dead by that point.
00:09:18.720That is one of the worst things I've ever seen in my entire life.
00:09:23.720And the fact that there are people out there who can see that and not have any stirring of emotion other than glee, other than some kind of rabid joy at how this has happened.
00:09:38.720They can watch that video with a smile on their face.
00:09:43.720And these people, everybody celebrating this, they are evil.
00:09:47.720They need consequences to come to them.
00:09:50.720And this is where, I'm sure you're going with this segment, but this is where we do have to pile onto these people.
00:09:58.720We need to organise very mundane, administrative style campaigns against them.
00:10:05.720If they are employed, contact their employers.
00:10:08.720If they are part of a larger group like a development team, for instance, if the development team aren't willing to drop them, contact the publishers.
00:10:15.720Put pressure on the publishers. Remove your pre-orders.
00:10:27.720Even something as mundane as putting complaints in, a mass complaints organisation, organised campaign, can actually jam up a company very, very easily.
00:10:37.720These people need to know that there are practical and financial consequences to their actions.
00:10:43.720Because what we are seeing is encouragement and incitement of political violence.
00:11:00.720So, also, as to what you were saying, Harry, Asma Gold made a very good video on this.
00:11:12.720I'm not going to play it now, but I would encourage people to go watch it where he goes through the types of people that you described.
00:11:21.720But then I also wanted to talk about not just the reaction in America, but I also want to focus on the reaction here in Britain as well.
00:11:31.720And the reason that I want to do that is because many of the talking heads in the legacy media and the swamp, Britain's own swamp, are very much downplaying.
00:13:06.720And as you can read here from the article in the Telegraph, Oxford Union president who debated with Charlie Kirk appeared to celebrate the shooting.
00:13:15.720And just so you can see him, UK aesthetics here provides a, this was a debate.
00:14:26.720Uh, and in another message, he basically stated, lol.
00:14:31.720So not only that, because there was a point made in the, um, on the podcast yesterday, and I believe a, um, um, a strong one, that for many of these evil people,
00:15:20.720I expect those grades were inflated to begin with.
00:15:22.720But what's more, the fact that he were, is still, we'll get to that, president-elect for the Oxford Union means that clearly his peers had great confidence in him being worthy of such a position as well.
00:16:47.720If you are in any way financially connected to Oxford University, until they sort this out and fix all of the problems that led to someone like this being the president of Oxford University or even being let into the university in the first place, pull out.
00:17:20.720The Oxford Union would like to unequivocally condemn the reported words and sentiments expressed by President-elect so-and-so with regards to the passing of Charlie Kirk.
00:17:31.720His reported views do not represent the Oxford Union's current leadership or committee's views.
00:17:36.720The current administration has, under President Musa Haraj, no association with and is entirely independent from his administration.
00:17:46.720In alignment with the statement published by our society earlier today, we reaffirm our stance that the Oxford Union firmly opposes all forms of political violence and strongly stands by our commitment to free speech and considerate debate.
00:18:01.720We would like to reiterate that our condolences lie with Charlie Kirk's family, especially his wife and young children who are enduring such terrible grief.
00:18:15.720And what's more as well, right, it's you can't be someone who stands up there and has a debate if you just reveal that actually your darkest wish is actually just to have these people murdered.
00:18:32.720And because really all of this seems to be bound up in the fact that these people can't seem to get their heads around the fact that Charlie was a bridge, right?
00:18:48.720And a moderate voice and someone willing to have these conversations.
00:18:52.720And so when Ash Sarkar says, I think Charlie Kirk died by the code that he lived by, no, he didn't.
00:19:14.720And because the fact of the matter is that Charlie's sword was his debating skills and it was sharper and it was more precise and it was more effective than anything that these people can muster.
00:19:32.720And so it's a total mischaracterization of who he was.
00:19:37.720And yes, as Firas says there, the code he lived by was dialogue over violence.
00:19:47.720And you have Lewis Goodall here and I'm not going to play the clip, but he basically just says the idea that Charlie Kirk was murdered for espousing common sense mainstream views is nonsense.
00:20:22.720The fact that the Republicans are in charge and Charlie put a great deal of effort into putting them in power in the first place by involving himself with young people.
00:20:42.720So for instance, with the Oxford Students Union, you can go onto the Oxford Student Union website and you can fill in a complaints form.
00:20:50.720A few thousand of those might make their lives a bit more inconvenient, perhaps inconvenient enough to say, maybe we shouldn't have this guy in charge.
00:21:00.720If they choose to ignore their responsibilities to handle complaints within a timely and efficient manner, or they don't give you a response that you think is warranted by the complaint that you've put in.
00:21:14.720If you don't think they've looked into it fairly, you can then take it further to their regulator.
00:21:19.720And it appears from what I'm seeing here that student unions in the UK are regulated as charities by the Charity Commission.
00:21:25.720So at that point, you can escalate it further to regulators or independent ombudsman.
00:21:31.720And again, you can try to get some kind of consequences on these people.
00:21:36.720I don't know if it's the same with student unions, but when I used to work in insurance, if a complaint was escalated past the company to the ombudsman, even getting to the ombudsman meant that they would immediately incur a 500 pound fine.
00:21:50.720If there's anything like that as consequences for student unions, student unions budgets aren't that big.
00:21:57.720So a few of those coming their way can immediately tank their finances.
00:22:02.720So that's just some suggestions of what you as an organized group can do.
00:22:09.720And it will be the same for television broadcasters, radio broadcasters.
00:22:15.720You can complain to them and then you can go to Ofcom and you can continually do this process.
00:22:20.720This is one of the ways in which people have been able to get actual change done on a minor scale, which is that the left has always been far more organized in actually going through official channels.
00:22:31.720If we can do the same, even if it's only small, perhaps, perhaps we can have some kind of minor consequences on these people.
00:22:41.720It won't be as satisfying as some of the other processes that people want to see.
00:22:46.720But that's that's what you can do as a normal person.
00:23:15.720I seem to recall in 2020 there was someone died in Minnesota of a far less reputable character than Charlie.
00:23:26.720And not only were we not told to keep that issue contained to America, but we were told that because of this, we had to basically upturn every single institution across the West.
00:23:40.720Well, not only that, the head is locked up at home.
00:25:38.720And that really is the point that as much as I detest, and this is me speaking personally for myself,
00:25:45.720as much as I detest the things that have happened to us, and that we have been forced to endure, and certainly, obviously, much worse in America, I don't go around actually just silently wishing for the death of my enemies.
00:26:01.720Or verbally wishing for the death of my enemies, in fact.
00:26:04.720It's true no matter how much I egg him on.
00:26:42.720Can I always say, I think, just to protect us all, and so Fox doesn't get sued, and we all don't get sued, and everything else, but I think with a high degree of certainty, we have him.
00:27:35.720I would just quickly like to return to this point here as well.
00:27:41.720Because as we here at the Lotus Eaters are very consistent on, we personally believe that politically, people like Nigel are actually soft touches.
00:29:21.720And as Carl says here, the reaction to Charlie Kirk's view from the British commentariat reveals not how extreme Kirk was, but how liberal they are.
00:29:43.720So, yeah, it's it's not just America as well, though I grant it's clearly even more volatile over there.
00:29:52.720And again, I could only just say how deeply sorry I am to Charlie's family and all the people that he loved and loved him because this should have never happened.
00:30:26.720By all means, by all means, if there's any way you want to pick out now, but otherwise we try and get some in the lads hour this afternoon.
00:30:31.720I'll just go through one or two here from the Rumble Rants for $10.
00:45:06.720And therefore, and also they were pushing the electronic voting machines.
00:45:12.720Would you believe it that that election took quite a while to process?
00:45:17.720Well, after literally initially looking like a slam dunk for Bolsonaro, there were some regularities in areas where this guy had the most control.
00:45:28.720And would you believe it, the rural regions from far off, they had extraordinary turnouts, extraordinary turnouts.
00:45:35.720And a lot of the late votes found in the voting machines were actually for Lula.
00:45:58.720So basically, he was blocking Bolsonaro and his supporters, social media accounts, aggressively enforcing misinformation during the election campaign.
00:46:10.720He was banned from posting many things as were his supporters.
00:46:14.720Lula's conviction was overturned on technicality.
00:46:18.720Multiple legal investigations and rulings against Bolsonaro while he's trying to campaign.
00:48:39.720There was the military support, but he didn't do it.
00:48:43.720The moment he was out of office and the election was over,
00:48:47.720the Supreme Court launched multiple more investigations.
00:48:54.720They launched investigations for abuse of political power, attack on democracy, plotting a coup, discussions of military officials.
00:49:00.720And I don't doubt those those conversations took place.
00:49:03.720But it would have been the military guy saying we're going to we're ready to act.
00:49:07.720And him saying no, that was probably the level of the conversation.
00:49:11.720So they barred him from office until 2030 and they've pursued claims of coup and conspiracy.
00:49:20.720And, you know, other generals have been targeted as well.
00:49:23.720And then, remarkably, recently, after a major surgery to deal with the ongoing complications with his stomach wound,
00:49:33.720while he was in the ICU, he got served papers from the Supreme Court.
00:49:38.720And they so they waited for this moment.
00:49:41.720Then they served these papers and they did it with a minimum possible lead time like five days or something before the trial was going to be held.
00:49:49.720So that is even in Brazil, that is unprecedented that that sort of thing has happened.
00:50:07.720So former president Jair Bolsonaro was predictably convicted today in a perfectly constructed partial group of Supreme Court justices in a in a in a in a in a four one vote and is sentenced to 27 years and three months.
00:50:22.720And it's going to be in one of the worst of the worst prisons in Brazil, the place where people get murdered daily.
00:50:30.720That's where they're going to stick him.
00:51:37.720This this is Brazil is simply the US on a slightly different timeline.
00:51:43.720Except with the added thing that it's got a bit of US deep state involvement, which is why I was pleased to see that Marco Rubio has come out this morning to say what he's saying.
00:51:53.720The political persecution by sanctioned human rights abuser.
00:51:57.720This judge Morales continues as he and others on the Brazilian Supreme Court of unjustly ruled to imprison former president Bolsonaro.
00:52:06.720The United States will respond accordingly to this witch hunt.
00:57:59.720And let's see if there are any other...
00:58:05.720Okay, it seems those are the ones relevant to the subject we just covered, so we'll move on to the final segment.
00:58:14.720So, it was overshadowed earlier on this week, given the subsequent events of Charlie Kirk's assassination on Wednesday.
00:58:21.720But on Tuesday, in the House Oversight Committee that's looking into the whole Epstein affair, and the government and FBI and CIA, any kind of elite institutional involvement into it, there was a drop of documents.
00:58:37.720And there have been further developments, even since then, which have all led to Peter Mandelson being ousted from the UK government again.
00:58:46.720This is the third time that it has happened to him.
00:58:49.720With reference to the Epstein story, I want to preface all of this by saying, I do not expect...
00:58:58.720You can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I do not expect that there will be anything more than a few sacrificial lambs thrown to the slaughter,
00:59:06.720as a result of the oversight committee.
00:59:09.720Because it does seem to be a story that involves basically all of the most important heads of state that we've seen pass through the US offices of the past 20 years, if not 30, 40 years.
00:59:24.720Many of the intelligence agencies who are actually the government of the world.
00:59:29.720And they're not going to give themselves up.
00:59:32.720You're not going to get a written statement from them all saying, here is exactly what happened.
00:59:38.720Here is all the people who were involved in it, and here is how we are going to punish them.
00:59:43.720What we are going to get is dribs and drabs of new information that might even end up becoming almost like the slop cycle.
00:59:52.720It might just be like, oh, here's some more added information regarding the Epstein story that doesn't really go anywhere.
00:59:58.720Especially if you believe, like me, that whatever happens to the Epstein operation is that it's moved on.
01:00:05.720It's still going on, and there has simply been a replacement Epstein put in place that none of us have ever heard of.
01:00:11.720Maybe we have heard of him, but we just don't know that it's him.
01:00:15.720These kinds of affairs always go on with the intelligence communities.
01:00:20.720Blackmailing material is always being gathered by them for one reason or another, and they need somebody in charge of that.
01:00:27.720Despite that, though, the new information that we get is always interesting in putting together the wider story, as journalists like Whitney Webb have done.
01:00:37.720And anything extra that we can get can expand our understanding of who is involved in it.
01:00:42.720So while I'm not expecting, you know, the United States government to indict the entire CIA and then start to try and extradite other foreign criminals in foreign intelligence agencies,
01:00:54.720whether that be MI6 or Mossad or any of the other ones that Epstein would have been in close contact with,
01:01:01.720it is still important to see what has been developing.
01:01:05.720Before I go into the drop of documents from Tuesday, one interesting thing that I sadly missed last time I covered part of this story was this Reason article,
01:01:15.720which went over leaked emails where they found that Epstein towards in the last four years of his life was making inroads into security technology,
01:01:26.720particularly that he had partnered with the former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak.
01:01:32.720Bear in mind, this is in 2015, seven years after his 2008 conviction for charges of human trafficking and inappropriate contact with minors,
01:01:43.720some as young as 14 years old. Ehud Barak was still willing to work with him as a partner,
01:01:50.720investing in a security tech startup called Reportee Homeland Security, now known as Carbine.
01:01:56.720The leaked emails, some of which feature in here, show that there was a number of times where they were trying to get contact with and meetings set up with Peter Thiel.
01:02:07.720Peter Thiel has addressed this and said that he had met Epstein kind of informally a number of times,
01:02:15.720but that he wasn't fully aware of who he was speaking to at the time.
01:02:19.720So, kind of an evasion of all of that.
01:02:22.720So that's just some of the information that came out a few weeks ago as reported by Reason.
01:02:27.720But the big thing that happened was that the Oversight Committee released all of these documents.
01:02:31.720I have not read over all of them myself.
01:02:34.720There are four drops which include documents, financial documents, agreements that he'd made,
01:02:41.720a lot of official writings that had his signature on it.
01:02:45.720But the big one that people were looking at was the elusive Birthday Files,
01:02:51.720the 50th birthday book from 2003, which was 238 pages long,
01:02:58.720and featured written and typed messages and signed typed messages from many people that he had been involved with
01:03:05.720in the preceding years up until he was 50, of course.
01:03:09.720And there is some very interesting stuff here.
01:03:11.720There was lots of photographs, including one that you can see here where he's holding a large check.
01:03:16.720A lot of the information has been redacted to save the identities of some of the women who were involved.
01:03:23.720This is a pay to Jeffrey Epstein signed to Donald Trump for $22,500.
01:04:22.720It's well known at this point that they had been friends for about 15 years by 2003,
01:04:27.720and that it was around that time that they ended up having a fallout as a result of some wires getting crossed over,
01:04:34.720both of them trying to outbid each other on some townhouse they were both looking at.
01:04:38.720Some of the more interesting stuff in here as well, though, is that there is an extended selection of pages written by Peter Mandelson, including photographs,
01:04:50.720where he essentially writes him a really loving little story, where he says that how he parachuted into his life,
01:04:58.720and you were a man of mystery who gave me so many interesting opportunities and introduced me to so many interesting friends that I had to entertain.
01:06:35.720Basically, everything in here seems to be referencing sexuality of some form in a very pervy and disturbing way.
01:06:46.720As well as the birthday book, the documents released includes Epstein's will, his contact books, agreements he signed with prosecutors and financial transactions and holdings.
01:06:54.720One of the most disturbing things that I saw in here, which again seems to suggest that everybody in here, or at least a significant number of people in this book knew what was actually going on,
01:07:08.720is, if I can find it scrolling down, a particular illustration drawn as though it was by a child.
01:07:17.720Where is it? Here it is. Look at this, Dan.
01:07:20.720Here is a picture drawn of a younger Epstein in 1983 handing out lollipops to small girls,
01:07:28.720and then in 2003 presumably those same girls, all in various stages of nudity, giving him a massage on the beach.
01:09:03.720For legal reasons, I should point out that my earlier comments do not suggest that I think that Peter Mandelson was doing anything whatsoever with young girls.
01:09:41.720And on that, you mentioned Mike Benz in the last segment.
01:09:44.720Mike Benz has also highlighted this, and then highlighted that, uh, one of the usual things that the CIA does is that if the media report on anybody as having had connections with the CIA,
01:09:56.720they will run a name trace because, of course, not everybody in the CIA is going to be aware of everybody who's running particular operations for them at any one time,
01:10:05.720but it will always be in a database somewhere.
01:10:08.720And back in July 17th, he looked and found that there has been no CIA name trace done on Jeffrey Epstein because you can find information on who has been name traced by them.
01:10:19.720And now, by the time he was posting this on the 9th of September, still nothing.
01:10:25.720The CIA seem very uninterested in how involved in their own operations Jeffrey Epstein may or may not have been.
01:10:34.720And that's one of the other reasons that, again, I'm not expecting there to be some gigantic indictment of the intelligence agencies come off of the end of this.
01:10:43.720The Oversight Committee, independent as they may be, simply will not have the power to overthrow one of the most important and powerful agencies in the entire world.
01:10:54.720The intelligence agencies, whether again, whether that be MI6, CIA, Mossad, whoever, seem to have a blank check to do whatever they want and have done for years.
01:11:04.720You could say it goes back to JFK. And again, I expect that there were multiple intelligence agencies involved in that whole operation.
01:11:13.720There was also something else that came out which was around the same time Mike Johnson had said that Trump was actually an FBI informant on the Epstein case and people were reporting on that.
01:11:25.720But he has since walked back those comments saying that he didn't know if he used the right word.
01:11:31.720I said FBI informant. I'm not sure. I wasn't there. So that was a nothing burger. That was a nothing burger.
01:11:37.720The next thing that came of all of this was that more information was released about Peter Mandelson.
01:11:43.720And just to remind you all of who Peter Mandelson is, he was one of the trio, the three amigos who formed the New Labour government with Blair at its head in 1997.
01:11:55.720He was the guy who I believe since 1985 had been the director of their communications. He was their PR guy.
01:12:03.720He built the New Labour image and framework. So he was one of the major reasons that we got Blair in 1997 in the first place.
01:12:10.720And remember what he said was that they, back in 2004 I believe, sent out search parties to get immigrants to come into this country.
01:12:21.720In the same article that we get the very famous quote that Andrew Nether, a former adviser, said that the mass immigration policy was designed to rub the right's nose in diversity.
01:12:33.720So that's the kind of quality of character we're talking about here.
01:12:36.720I remember Peter Mandelson from the time. And I remember watching a documentary before Labour got into power, where Peter Mandelson, he had a moustache back then, but it fell off as well.
01:12:45.720He had a moustache back then. And in this documentary, he's taking the BBC through his place and he's complaining about how poor he is and about how he's got rising damp coming up his walls and stuff like that.
01:12:55.720After about four years of being in government, he had to resign for the first of about three times, I think, over scandals if he kept on buying multi-million pound properties.
01:13:04.720So quite the turnaround on a minister's salary to go from complaining about how poor you are to getting involved in multiple scandals for multi-million pound property purchases. I don't know how that happened.
01:13:19.720Previously, he'd been forced to resign twice. This is now the third time. The first time, I think, was in the first year of Labour getting in.
01:13:28.720And it turned out that he had accepted a loan so that he could buy a house of over £350,000 and hadn't declared it.
01:13:37.720And the next one was much bigger, I remember.
01:13:39.720Yes, it was a lot bigger. And then he was forced to resign and then was straight back in government the year after in 99.
01:13:46.720Yep. He's been sacked a lot for his behaviour.
01:13:49.720But he always gets back in. And we'll see if this latest sacking ends up sticking or not.
01:13:55.720Because this one ties it all together back to Epstein, where it reveals that Peter Mandelson had a very, as we know now from the birthday book,
01:14:04.720had a very close relationship with Epstein. That was going back to 2003.
01:14:09.720So the latest all of that information from the birthday book would relate to is to 2003.
01:14:15.720We now have information through leaked emails from an old closed email address that Bloomberg and The Sun were able to get a hold of,
01:14:23.720that this relationship carried on until potentially at least 2013.
01:14:29.720Which again, like Ehud Barak being friends with him in 2015, starting business deals with him,
01:14:35.7202013 is five years after his original conviction.
01:14:40.720So that goes to show the kind of character that we're talking about here.
01:14:43.720So according to this article, Bloomberg News obtained more than 100 previously unreported emails between Epstein and Mandelson from 2005 through to 2010,
01:14:53.720casting new light on the relationship between the two in an interview.
01:14:57.720Because, of course, this news got out ahead.
01:14:59.720Here's some more of the images that were released from the book.
01:15:02.720They sporadically put a few of these emails out through this.
01:15:06.720They've retyped them up. So this is one from 2008 when he was going through his original conviction.
01:15:14.720From Peter Mandelson to Jeffrey Epstein saying,
01:15:17.720Reminder, you're fighting back so you need strategy, strategy, strategy.