The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1252

00:00:00.660 Hello everyone, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters.

00:00:03.880 This is Monday the 15th of September, 2025, and this is episode 1252.

00:00:11.320 I'm joined today by Beau and Firas, and we're going to discuss the identity of Charlie Kirk's

00:00:17.020 assassin, how the left radicalizes our youth, and the elite's lies about the United Kingdom

00:00:23.660 rally.

00:00:24.740 Right, so we have an announcement to make.

00:00:28.060 We have a live Realpolitik episode today at 3 p.m., and Firas, what are you going to

00:00:34.720 be talking about?

00:00:35.960 Well, I'm going to be talking about the evils of civil war, but that we are slowly sliding

00:00:41.660 towards one, and unless there is some kind of truth and reconciliation, with the left

00:00:47.900 beginning to admit some of its errors, it becomes very difficult to avoid one, and we should

00:00:55.300 see Kirk as the first martyr in that conflict.

00:00:58.960 Right, so do tune in.

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00:01:09.840 Right, so Beau, should we start with the first segment?

00:01:12.200 One thing I was going to say was we'll do the rally in London tomorrow.

00:01:17.520 Yep.

00:01:17.740 We will cover that, but tomorrow, because none of us were there, so we thought we may

00:01:21.560 as well wait until Carl's in, because he was actually there, at least.

00:01:24.280 Yes.

00:01:25.320 Carl will do it.

00:01:26.800 Yeah.

00:01:27.460 So we'll cover that tomorrow.

00:01:29.540 All right, so last time we talked about Charlie Kirk was, I think, was it Thursday last week?

00:01:35.080 And at that point, or Wednesday, was it?

00:01:37.440 The killer was still at large at that point, and the news broke in Britain right at the

00:01:43.240 end of the working day on Friday, I believe, that they'd caught him.

00:01:48.220 And so over the weekend, it's sort of been all in the news, hasn't it?

00:01:51.220 Sort of all weekend long, and still in the news cycle today as well, of course.

00:01:55.060 So we thought we'd cover it.

00:01:57.460 So the guy is called Tyler Robinson.

00:02:02.800 No relation to Harry Robinson, he's a pain to point out.

00:02:07.240 Tyler Robinson, and there he is.

00:02:09.560 So let's just have a quick few seconds of this video.

00:02:14.620 We got him.

00:02:15.860 The words that everyone has been waiting to hear.

00:02:18.560 We are following...

00:02:19.280 Always a bit of a cliche, I think, now, after the Saddam thing. 0.98

00:02:22.760 Yep.

00:02:23.200 We got him, Dave.

00:02:24.540 I don't know.

00:02:25.080 Following breaking news, this is the mugshot of the 22-year-old man who authorities say

00:02:30.340 killed conservative influencer Charlie Kirk.

00:02:33.100 Tyler Robinson is his name, and he was arrested overnight, roughly three hours south of where

00:02:39.000 he allegedly fired that shot that killed Kirk in front of thousands of people as he was

00:02:44.200 speaking at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, as part of a college tour.

00:02:49.700 I'll tell you how Robinson's family knew that they were living with the person now accused

00:02:54.400 of a horrifying assassination.

00:02:56.420 This is a...

00:02:57.320 Okay.

00:02:59.280 So, yeah, one of the first things is he's very young.

00:03:03.240 He's 22.

00:03:05.600 On that podcast on Wednesday with Dan and Carl, I did say that my immediate reaction when

00:03:10.880 there was that middle-aged or even older gentleman that they first got at the scene within moments,

00:03:16.320 I remember saying, it doesn't ring true, it's not impossible, it's not entirely unheard of

00:03:22.280 for political assassins to be older, but it's actually really quite rare.

00:03:27.600 And, yeah, in this case, he's very, very young, 22.

00:03:30.880 I mean, you don't really know what you're doing.

00:03:34.660 You don't really have a proper grasp on things when you're 22.

00:03:37.940 Usually you don't.

00:03:40.540 Well, you know, I didn't.

00:03:41.700 Sometimes you get people, I mean, sometimes you get an extremely young physicist or a poet

00:03:46.920 or something that's in their early 20s, but most of the time you still don't really know

00:03:51.460 what you think about things properly when you're 22.

00:03:54.540 You haven't really lived much for life yet, have you, when you're 22?

00:03:56.900 I was saying in the office earlier that Princip, the murderer in Sarajevo in 1914, he was 19.

00:04:05.160 Right.

00:04:05.880 Right?

00:04:06.460 It's actually much, much, much, much easier to radicalise someone who's very young.

00:04:10.980 Yes.

00:04:11.980 Absolutely.

00:04:12.620 That's nearly always the way it goes.

00:04:14.580 Yeah.

00:04:15.600 They're very prone to emotional manipulation.

00:04:18.960 The younger one is, the more prone they are to...

00:04:21.280 And to moral certainty in a particular way.

00:04:24.380 Yeah.

00:04:25.720 And more prone to violence.

00:04:28.380 A lot of violent crime will be younger people. 0.99

00:04:30.860 Yes.

00:04:31.040 It will be.

00:04:31.660 Young men.

00:04:32.240 Young men.

00:04:33.140 Nearly always.

00:04:34.280 Yes.

00:04:34.760 That's true.

00:04:35.500 That's true.

00:04:36.100 Yeah.

00:04:36.280 I mean, even in the army, an infantryman, you know, they don't really want you when you're

00:04:42.920 in your 40s.

00:04:43.740 No.

00:04:44.060 To be a rifleman.

00:04:45.180 Not really.

00:04:45.440 They prefer it if you're 20.

00:04:46.780 Unless you're in Ukraine.

00:04:47.860 Well, right.

00:04:48.840 Yeah.

00:04:49.060 Okay, so what's been in some of the news over the last few days?

00:04:56.560 I've seen a few different places say that he's not cooperating with the authorities.

00:05:01.440 I did see one article saying he is.

00:05:03.960 Most of them seem to say he's not cooperating.

00:05:06.040 But he did at least, it seems, sort of allow himself to be turned in.

00:05:12.120 So some of the details of that.

00:05:13.940 It seems like his parents, his own father, saw the images that the FBI had released and

00:05:21.460 realized, oh, that's my son.

00:05:24.000 So now there's the dilemma, like, you know, turning in your own son, because there is

00:05:30.000 the death penalty in Utah.

00:05:31.860 And they have said already, the authorities have said they'll be pushing for a death penalty

00:05:36.480 should he be convicted.

00:05:39.900 And so.

00:05:41.160 I mean, really, the father's behavior and honor and civic duty is the only reason for

00:05:49.140 clemency here.

00:05:50.220 It's the only possible reason for clemency.

00:05:54.000 Not, not the man himself, not the shooter himself.

00:06:01.140 It's, it's incredible that you see this willingness on the part of a parent.

00:06:06.500 And you can imagine how difficult it must be for his father.

00:06:09.940 We should genuinely pray for his father.

00:06:12.140 We should genuinely wish his father well, because he did something extremely brave, which

00:06:17.160 wouldn't happen in a lot of societies and most societies, I would argue.

00:06:21.080 It shows what a thoroughly decent human being he is, and it makes it more heartbreaking for

00:06:30.120 him that his son would do something like that, that his son would be brainwashed to this extent.

00:06:36.340 You do everything that you can as a father to make sure that your children turn out okay.

00:06:42.700 And the thought that it wouldn't happen is something that, that really worries you and

00:06:48.640 keeps you up at night.

00:06:49.460 It's, it's a scary thought.

00:06:52.000 And that he would go so wrong.

00:06:54.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:58.480 So there's a little bit of a debate in the office on Friday afternoon about, about that.

00:07:02.680 Would you turn your own child in knowing that they'll probably get the death penalty?

00:07:07.140 I think it's, it's easy for me to sit here and say this, but you know, I think it is the

00:07:11.900 morally right thing to do.

00:07:13.160 I mean, when we look at say, um, the families of, uh, the grooming gangs that don't, we can,

00:07:22.220 we condemn them saying that's wrong and that's disgusting.

00:07:25.660 It's, it's, it's obviously the morally right thing to do.

00:07:28.200 The question, the only comment is about the, the difficulty of it.

00:07:32.340 Yeah.

00:07:32.560 It must have been very, very difficult.

00:07:34.320 Yeah.

00:07:34.440 So, um, the details are a little bit sketchy still, and one or two different places seem

00:07:38.580 to have a slightly different spin on exactly how that went down.

00:07:41.220 But from what I can gather, from what I've read, it seems like it went something like

00:07:45.200 his father confronted him saying, look, it's, it's you, right?

00:07:50.260 I can see it.

00:07:50.920 It's obviously you.

00:07:52.520 And something along the lines of he either explicitly or, or implicitly confirmed that

00:07:59.660 it was him.

00:08:00.240 Um, then he went to a family friend or some accounts are saying it was like the local,

00:08:05.300 uh, uh, priest or pastor or, or, or, or holy man of some type in their community.

00:08:11.840 I think they were, um, I think they're Mormons.

00:08:14.240 Yeah.

00:08:14.920 We'll get onto sort of the conservative nature of the household in a moment.

00:08:18.200 Uh, he went to some sort of other third party and they informed the police or the FBI

00:08:23.440 and, uh, they went round and they got him and there was no sort of.

00:08:28.160 No struggle.

00:08:28.620 There was no struggle.

00:08:29.660 Yes.

00:08:29.800 Uh, he didn't commit suicide or anything like that.

00:08:32.000 So that seems like that's how it went down.

00:08:35.540 Um, so, okay.

00:08:37.300 So the next thing, one of the next things to say is about sort of the household.

00:08:41.500 Um, oh yeah, apparently he was joking on discord, um, making various jokes about it.

00:08:48.120 Um, I've got an article here if you're only listening to this that he'd said it was his

00:08:52.680 doppelganger did it.

00:08:54.860 Um, yeah.

00:08:57.660 Um, so yeah.

00:08:59.220 People are saying that he was raised, or it seems that he was, it is the case.

00:09:03.460 He was raised in a conservative household, conservative with a small c, uh, Mormon, so Christian, you 0.68

00:09:09.580 know, um, Church of the Latter-day Saints, isn't it?

00:09:11.700 They're a formal name, uh, not unsurprising in Utah.

00:09:15.660 Um, and so the first thing that the, the, the mainstream media or the left seem to be

00:09:24.180 sort of, um, deliberately, it seems to me deliberately confusing the issue is that, uh, that, that's

00:09:34.440 it.

00:09:34.740 That's all there is to the story that he was a conservative who did this.

00:09:38.640 And, uh, and, uh, and, and there you go.

00:09:40.600 So it's not one of ours, the left, it's not one of ours.

00:09:43.120 It's one of yours.

00:09:43.820 It's, it's your fault. 1.00

00:09:44.940 It's a right-wing killer. 1.00

00:09:46.700 It's a right-wing murderer. 0.99

00:09:48.440 Um, I found that disgusting entirely because it, it is the character of the far left to 0.84

00:09:55.860 never take the responsibility about everything.

00:09:57.960 And they mentioned all sorts of influences on him, but never mentioned the radicalization

00:10:04.920 he has received by most probably universities and definitely online spaces.

00:10:11.480 Yeah, absolutely.

00:10:12.240 So here's a tweet from, um, uh, Billy Baldwin, incredibly, incredibly insightful political

00:10:20.300 analyst, Billy Baldwin.

00:10:21.740 Yeah.

00:10:22.520 The, the razor sharp insight of Billy Baldwin.

00:10:25.620 He's saying he's not black, he's not trans, he's not Muslim, not a migrant, not a Democrat.

00:10:31.180 Uh, oh, brilliant, Billy. 0.55

00:10:32.680 Thanks for that.

00:10:33.700 We appreciate that.

00:10:34.440 Yeah, brilliant.

00:10:35.380 Well done.

00:10:37.320 Um, at the Telegraph saying the Charlie Kirk suspect spoke the language of the far right.

00:10:45.040 Oh, did he?

00:10:46.140 Did he though?

00:10:47.680 Um, so what it seems to be, uh, if you just scratch the surface of this thing is that,

00:10:53.880 yeah, he was raised in a conservative Mormon household, but then he went to university,

00:10:58.680 he got a full scholarship.

00:10:59.940 It seems, it seems like he was actually, uh, very bright academically.

00:11:03.720 Yes.

00:11:04.060 Which just goes to show you can be very bright academically and still, um, a psychopath and 0.97

00:11:08.380 completely wrongheaded. 0.53

00:11:09.880 I mean, look at somebody like Lenin.

00:11:11.480 There's lots of very quote unquote bright, entirely wrongheaded. 0.86

00:11:15.100 He wasn't stupid. 0.93

00:11:16.120 Right. 0.97

00:11:16.480 Yeah. 0.84

00:11:16.720 He wasn't stupid. 0.96

00:11:17.800 He wasn't stupid. 0.99

00:11:18.620 Uh, but there you go. 0.96

00:11:20.100 So, um, uh, yeah, it seems like he went, well, he went to university and, uh, got radicalized.

00:11:28.600 Um, and then now sometimes when people are raised in a certain way, whether it's conservative

00:11:32.900 or, or, or not conservative, sometimes you sort of carry that on through your whole life

00:11:38.280 and it's so deeply ingrained in your character and personality that you just go with that

00:11:42.260 throughout your whole life to, to, to the, to the grave and you pass that on to your children.

00:11:46.140 Often though, especially when you're in your teens or your early twenties, it can be the

00:11:50.820 case very, very often, isn't it?

00:11:52.240 That you rebel against that.

00:11:53.620 You do a 180.

00:11:54.860 How, what a cliche is to go to university and suddenly you're the opposite of what your,

00:11:59.660 of what mummy and daddy always wanted for you.

00:12:03.100 Um, so it seems like something like that went on.

00:12:05.100 He went to university, I think for only one semester or certainly less than one year.

00:12:09.760 And, um, the reports are coming out that he was in a relationship with a man.

00:12:14.140 Yep.

00:12:14.680 So, so he was gay.

00:12:16.900 Um, would have thought that mummy and daddy back home wouldn't, wouldn't have approved of

00:12:22.400 that.

00:12:22.880 Not in the least.

00:12:23.660 Um, and if they were conservative, he's gone sort of full lefty, full antifa.

00:12:28.440 Yep.

00:12:28.880 Uh, my, my understanding is that he was also living in the university, not just at home.

00:12:35.780 And so he was basically, um, immersed in this atmosphere that you often find, unfortunately,

00:12:44.740 in the academy, which has been largely captured by the left.

00:12:49.320 Um, and then he ended up, you know, rebelling, becoming gay and, and, uh, dating a guy who says 0.98

00:12:57.700 that he's trans and that mental illness is contagious. 0.98

00:13:01.360 I mean, I mean, the whole trans thing, we have to confront the extent to which it's a full 1.00

00:13:06.720 denial of reality.

00:13:07.860 And as we start to push back against the trans agenda, finally, these guys have two choices, 0.63

00:13:14.880 either radicalize further and become more extreme or admit that they've been living a

00:13:19.780 lie for X many years and have mutilated their bodies. 0.63

00:13:23.160 And very often violence is the easier option than acknowledging reality and, and repenting. 0.61

00:13:29.940 So there is going to be more of this from the trans side as reality punches them in the face 1.00

00:13:37.440 and says, no, you can't change sex. 0.90

00:13:39.700 You can't change gender. 1.00

00:13:41.160 You can't do any of this stuff.

00:13:42.380 It isn't real.

00:13:42.940 It's all in your head.

00:13:44.320 Get over yourself.

00:13:46.060 It was also the case that he had, um, anti-fascist slogans on his bullets and the bullet cases.

00:13:54.280 And now just let me very quickly say is that in the minds of the left and especially the

00:14:01.440 non-particularly articulate left, I'm thinking of Joe Biden.

00:14:05.480 He was saying, it's all the same thing.

00:14:08.520 Islamophobia, transphobia, homophobia.

00:14:10.920 It's all the same thing.

00:14:12.140 Yes.

00:14:12.260 Climate justice, climate, it's all the same thing.

00:14:15.380 So it's really academia to a very large extent.

00:14:21.040 It's completely brainwashing people, young people, and it's trying to make them like 1.00

00:14:28.720 trying to create narcissists.

00:14:31.320 That's a very important point because the ideology of intersectionality tying together

00:14:39.160 all of these supposedly oppressed groups along with the eschatology of, of the climate crisis,

00:14:44.320 alleged climate crisis.

00:14:45.640 And we saw that in the exchange between Jonathan Willoughby, who goes by the name of India now, and one of the Muslim MPs, where the Muslim MP said, well, you know, I don't really think you're a woman.

00:15:05.140 And so Jonathan Willoughby says, well, if you say that about me, then I'm going to say that you're not really British.

00:15:12.100 Well, he's Pakistani, obviously.

00:15:13.300 He's not British. 1.00

00:15:13.840 So there is this weird omerta between them, between these different groups, that if you admit to one truth and therefore break up the alliance, we are going to start shaming you as well.

00:15:27.960 And so they must stick together.

00:15:31.180 And the result of them being so relentlessly married to lies is that they must be violent because at some point it's the only way to defend lies.

00:15:43.180 Yeah.

00:15:44.260 Just on the point of finding writings or engravings on the casings in the bullets, apparently they said things like, hey, fascist catch.

00:15:54.160 Also the Bella Chao song.

00:15:56.460 Bella Chao, yeah, they're the Italian. 0.97

00:15:58.660 Italian, yeah.

00:15:59.560 Anti-fascist, sorry. 1.00

00:16:01.460 If you read this, you are gay, Lamao. 0.99

00:16:05.180 Basically. 0.99

00:16:05.800 It's very 22-year-old, isn't it?

00:16:07.880 Yeah, he was. 0.97

00:16:09.640 One guy explained it as this being some kind of shitpost, but in the form of a murder. 0.99

00:16:18.000 Whereby you end up with these people that can't take anything seriously, but are married to insane lies. 0.99

00:16:22.640 And this is, for them, this is funny. 0.98

00:16:28.520 For them, killing us is funny.

00:16:30.620 That's an important point here. 0.99

00:16:32.240 And there is also the other bit that there are some people who are psychopaths.

00:16:36.040 Yes.

00:16:36.220 And they can hide their psychopathy under a guise of legitimacy with the victimhood narratives that are communicated in academia.

00:16:46.180 And Obama and Hillary turned mainstream for the last 10 years.

00:16:49.460 Yes.

00:16:49.660 So there's this thing, some are still saying that it might all be sort of a 4D chest red herring.

00:16:56.120 And in fact, it was still something else going on.

00:16:58.440 I think it's pretty clear at this point, relatively clear at this point, that it is just straight up this guy with anti-fascist and trans ideology going on through his head.

00:17:08.420 Now, the thing of going to university, I mean, I had it myself, but in my form, it was being like really high brow about ancient history.

00:17:18.780 But you go to university, you don't really have much of a personality yet when you're 19 or 20.

00:17:25.200 You've only ever lived at home.

00:17:26.600 You go there, you're away from home.

00:17:28.200 You live at university in halls or whatever.

00:17:29.960 You're completely allowed to do whatever you want, express yourself in whatever way you want.

00:17:34.760 And you fall into, you make the university and your course and your friends at university your whole life.

00:17:42.020 You haven't really got actually much other choice.

00:17:44.320 And so, as I say, in my case, it was like falling in with public school kids that did classics.

00:17:49.620 In his case, it seems like he fell in with anti-fascist trans types.

00:17:54.480 We should call them communists.

00:17:56.000 We shouldn't call them anti-fascists.

00:17:57.420 We should just call them communists.

00:17:57.740 Yeah, no, good point.

00:17:59.000 Absolutely.

00:17:59.400 Yeah, hardline communists.

00:18:02.900 Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

00:18:04.300 And so, it seems that over a matter of weeks or a few short months, went from being just like a conservative Mormon kid to a highly radicalized communist. 0.54

00:18:19.520 This is a problem with some very intelligent people that they think themselves so much smarter than everybody else around them.

00:18:28.760 You'd have to be convinced before you pulled a trigger.

00:18:31.260 You're describing...

00:18:32.120 Absolutely convinced.

00:18:33.300 You're describing academia, especially, you know, to a T.

00:18:37.100 Yes, but then they discover one particular truth or whatever and they can't pause and stop because their mind races ahead of them and leads them to extremism.

00:18:51.400 It is a problem with some very high verbal IQ people.

00:18:55.220 I noticed the case with me when I was very young.

00:18:58.580 Yeah.

00:18:59.140 When I was 17 or 18 or 19, I thought I knew everything.

00:19:01.880 I thought I'd done enough reading.

00:19:03.500 I knew enough about the world.

00:19:04.660 I've got all the answers.

00:19:05.960 Yeah.

00:19:06.160 Sort of thing.

00:19:06.480 I remember thinking that.

00:19:07.580 And I remember not that many years later, in my mid-20s or late 20s, looking back at myself just a few years earlier.

00:19:14.620 Oh, wow.

00:19:15.780 Wow.

00:19:16.240 I was in...

00:19:16.820 Oh, I was so wrong.

00:19:18.680 I was so wrong about that.

00:19:20.120 Oh, my God.

00:19:20.460 I'm glad I didn't...

00:19:21.720 That none of that led me to do anything crazy.

00:19:24.620 Yes.

00:19:25.320 Well, it didn't.

00:19:25.880 It led me to just like read Tacitus.

00:19:28.740 Somebody said...

00:19:29.620 I was going to say Tacitus radical...

00:19:31.740 You know, what radicalized me.

00:19:33.700 Tacitus.

00:19:34.480 Right.

00:19:34.820 Yeah.

00:19:35.320 Yeah. 1.00

00:19:36.200 But if it leads you to get a rifle and shoot someone like Charlie Kirk, because he's an evil demon Nazi that needs to be dead now. 1.00

00:19:46.260 Terrible. 1.00

00:19:47.160 Terrible, terrible thing.

00:19:48.180 But it looks like that's what happened.

00:19:50.380 I mean, I did watch one very interesting video, a little bit of armchair psychology.

00:19:54.540 But the video I watched was of a professional retired FBI sort of psychological profiler type.

00:20:02.400 Right.

00:20:03.480 And he was saying that what this sort of thing often is probably will turn out to be the case with Tyler Robinson is just sort of a massive sense of insecurity and inadequacy.

00:20:16.120 That Charlie Kirk is everything he isn't.

00:20:19.580 Charlie Kirk's got all his ducks in a row, got everything squared away, knows who he is.

00:20:24.540 Knows who he is absolutely to the point where he can debate the whole world.

00:20:28.740 Yep.

00:20:29.260 And this guy is just a mess of nothing.

00:20:33.160 He's just, he's just, he's all over the place.

00:20:35.820 It's absolutely all over the place.

00:20:37.200 One minute I'm a conservative Mormon, the next minute I'm a massively pro-trans communist. 0.91

00:20:42.800 Like he's all over the place.

00:20:44.160 Right.

00:20:44.340 So.

00:20:44.500 I think what confirms that to some extent is the fact that his immediate reaction after murdering Kirk was to run to daddy.

00:20:52.180 He didn't run.

00:20:55.140 But also gloat on social media.

00:20:57.880 So seek affirmation from social media, but also run to daddy.

00:21:03.460 So you could see that this is obviously they, they took him into the universities and it made him insane.

00:21:11.680 And I'm sure there are some personality traits within him that, that, that, that helped, uh, probably very high verbal capacity.

00:21:22.080 Uh, obviously he had a 4.0 GPA, which is like a hundred percent, um, obviously very brilliant.

00:21:29.760 And, um, they, they, they destroyed his life with their ideology.

00:21:35.780 Yeah.

00:21:36.360 Uh, I'm sure he was prone to it.

00:21:37.840 I'm not taking away responsibility from him, but I am saying that the fact that the academy is captured by these insane extremists is a real problem.

00:21:48.320 And this is an opportunity for Donald Trump to purge the universities, to properly purge them.

00:21:55.240 No, I agree with both your points, um, that it, it melted his mind.

00:21:59.480 It seems like he went to university and it warped him real quick to maxed out to 11.

00:22:07.220 Yeah.

00:22:07.380 Uh, but yeah, also at the same point, not taking responsibility to it.

00:22:10.280 There's another thing that the, the very interesting FBI profiler said is that probably there was a slippery slope.

00:22:16.660 He didn't go from absolutely peaceful to prepare to shoot someone.

00:22:20.420 There would have been an escalation almost certainly.

00:22:23.500 It's the way it nearly always goes until you do something as drastic as that.

00:22:28.280 Um, okay.

00:22:29.900 So one of the last things to just mention for this segment is, um, some of the, some of the gaslighting and the, uh, the sort of fairly disgusting, um, celebrations and things that have gone on over the weekend or since the event.

00:22:45.360 Um, not just people celebrating it, but, uh, people just also playing interference on behalf of, uh, the left and the shooter.

00:22:54.600 I mean, here's a, an article from John Sopal, one of the most disgusting fifth columnists you will ever come across.

00:23:00.760 Uh, he's, he's writing here, uh, Trump's reaction to Charlie Kirk's assassination shows all his worst traits.

00:23:06.140 No, it doesn't. 0.99

00:23:07.080 Shut up, John. 1.00

00:23:08.320 Um, disgusting. 0.99

00:23:09.960 Uh, but there's loads, not just the TikTokers sort of literally dancing around and, uh, gloating, smugly gloating, but people like, I mean, Ilhan Omar went on Mehdi Hassan and they're both sort of, uh, just short. 0.95

00:23:24.600 Of whooping it up, uh, classic Hassan Piker. 0.99

00:23:27.840 Hassan Piker's been in the, in the news, all that sort of thing.

00:23:30.880 Um, that hijabi woman off of Bake Off. 1.00

00:23:34.040 Yes.

00:23:34.460 Um, playing, playing defense, playing interference. 0.97

00:23:37.000 Alistair Campbell got in a bit of trouble just saying things that weren't true about Charlie Kirk, that he'd advocated for the stoning of gay people. 0.90

00:23:43.920 Just wrong.

00:23:45.040 Uh, all the usual suspects.

00:23:46.640 The list is actually extremely long of those that are not only gloating, but sort of trying to play some sort of intellectual.

00:23:54.840 Interference on behalf of the killer.

00:23:56.820 Yes.

00:23:57.500 Um, and it's, it's just very revealing, isn't it?

00:24:00.400 It's another, another one of those things, uh, like the flag thing or like, like the killing of that poor Ukrainian girl.

00:24:07.720 Those that, uh, just have a normal human response and those that have like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, sort of a murderous, devious response.

00:24:19.680 It's just very revealing.

00:24:20.740 I mean, this is something I, I'm, I'm going to talk about on, uh, in, in an hour, on a couple of hours on RealPolitik.

00:24:27.900 The dissociation from reality and the hatred of the normal.

00:24:32.400 Mm.

00:24:32.700 The extent to which they hate normal human impulses, like preferring your family over strangers, like preferring your country over foreign countries, uh, like preferring your religion over alien faiths.

00:24:44.580 The, the, the, the, the most basic elements of humanity are all treated with insane hostility by the left. 0.83

00:24:51.660 No wonder they turn crazy. 0.88

00:24:55.000 It requires you to be a bit crazy to go along with it and buy it. 0.94

00:24:59.080 It makes you crazier the more you go along with it. 0.92

00:25:02.100 Right. 0.93

00:25:02.540 We all have a bit of crazy in us.

00:25:04.040 We all have bad things in us.

00:25:05.220 We're all afflicted somehow, but it makes you much worse to believe these people.

00:25:10.080 It makes you a much worse human being.

00:25:11.720 And you see this kind of interference.

00:25:13.960 No, nothing should be done about the radicalization of the universities.

00:25:16.680 The fact that 98% or 99% of all professors are, are far left, that shouldn't be addressed.

00:25:22.120 Why?

00:25:22.960 Like, why should it, why isn't this a problem?

00:25:26.220 Absolutely.

00:25:27.200 Yeah.

00:25:28.260 Yeah.

00:25:29.080 Okay.

00:25:29.400 So that's my time up, but, um, just to finish it off saying, um, you know, at least they got

00:25:34.900 him.

00:25:35.260 It's not really much of a mercy, is it?

00:25:37.220 But there you go.

00:25:38.040 It's sort of better than it being a mystery forever who did it.

00:25:42.320 Um, so there you go.

00:25:44.600 Tyler Robinson.

00:25:46.180 Right.

00:25:46.660 Uh, Dreadnought Logan, uh, says, might I suggest a medieval punishment for him?

00:25:53.040 Paul Anderson says it's a bit Mediterranean heavy today.

00:25:56.700 And in Greek, the wonderful replacer.

00:25:59.920 Well, okay.

00:26:01.520 I know.

00:26:01.760 Dwight Power says, after we've watched the authorities openly cover up the Epstein files,

00:26:07.120 I'm taking anything they tell us about this shooting with a pinch of salt.

00:26:10.780 I'm not convinced a college kid has done this alone.

00:26:15.100 A drunk changeling. 1.00

00:26:16.740 There was a network of trans individuals who were aware of this happening before the fact.

00:26:22.220 And this is being investigated and Trump is using this in the right way to go after some

00:26:28.680 of these organizations.

00:26:29.780 So yes, there might be more than one person who knew about this in advance.

00:26:35.380 Right.

00:26:36.040 A drunk changeling. 1.00

00:26:37.360 They hated Charlie because he ambushed them on their long march through the institutions.

00:26:42.100 Losing to Trump sets them back for years, but losing to Charlie sets them back a generation.

00:26:46.900 Good point.

00:26:48.500 Yeah.

00:26:48.720 Well put.

00:26:49.740 He was incredibly influential with the young generation.

00:26:52.820 He was going behind enemy lines, wasn't he?

00:26:54.940 Really?

00:26:55.440 Yeah.

00:26:55.780 Neon Realist says, New York Post report FBI investigation expanded to if wider network of

00:27:01.780 trans militias had knowledge or a role in plot.

00:27:05.080 Utah-based trans militia group armed queers, Salt Lake City, deleted their accounts.

00:27:10.080 Interesting.

00:27:10.460 Oh, PHEK says, if you accidentally hit a trans person with your car, is it considered ma'am

00:27:17.520 slaughter? 0.97

00:27:19.200 Ma'am slaughter. 1.00

00:27:20.760 Bastard Brian, has someone raised Latter-day Saints who left the faith and know many others

00:27:26.680 who have former LDS, particularly university goers, have a bad tendency to become some of

00:27:32.980 the most extreme degenerates?

00:27:35.780 That's often the case, isn't it?

00:27:37.040 There's an old cliche in Britain that Catholic schoolgirls, after they leave school, become 0.98

00:27:45.600 perhaps slightly more promiscuous than they might otherwise have been.

00:27:50.100 It's a classic thing, isn't it?

00:27:51.060 Not just religion, in all sorts of things.

00:27:53.160 You're very, very conservative, raised very, very conservative, so you become an arch lefty

00:27:56.740 or vice versa.

00:27:57.800 Yeah.

00:27:58.300 It's true.

00:27:58.680 Right.

00:27:59.340 So Bobobud says that, to be fair, he couldn't see how they think he was a gruyper since

00:28:06.220 he had a fanboy lover.

00:28:09.200 I'm really, I don't know a lot about these groups, to be honest.

00:28:12.560 It's an inside joke about between the gruypers and the magas. 0.60

00:28:16.900 Flavius Magnus, the father is an honorable and just man with a moral strength few could ever

00:28:22.720 hold. 0.96

00:28:23.400 Yep.

00:28:23.860 And Adam James says, those who dance on Charlie's graves are lost.

00:28:27.520 Those who equivocate or go with, yeah, it's bad, he died, but, are a half step from being

00:28:33.660 lost.

00:28:34.540 Question is if they will take that step.

00:28:38.100 And Potato Radio says, University of Utah was where Stephen Crowder's show stopped an

00:28:45.400 attempt on Ben Shapiro five or six years ago.

00:28:48.180 I didn't know that one.

00:28:49.080 It's interesting.

00:28:52.520 Right.

00:28:53.040 So I think it's about time we have a, I think it's about time we have an uncomfortable conversation

00:29:01.640 and talk about the extremist tendencies within quotation marks progressivism.

00:29:08.460 If we really look into it, it's not progress.

00:29:10.920 It's, it's barbarity.

00:29:13.360 That's anti-civilization stuff.

00:29:16.300 They're not progress at all.

00:29:17.660 But within this ideology, there are extremist tendencies.

00:29:22.960 They're very highly correlated with the victimhood narratives that academia has created for the

00:29:29.560 last six, seven decades in the Western world.

00:29:34.200 Lots of these people who created these narratives came from Europe.

00:29:38.680 Critical race theory, critical theory before that, post-modernist theories, all of these

00:29:44.020 came from Europe and they were a particularly bad export from Europe into the States.

00:29:51.280 And they have created several victimhood narratives which function in a way right now that leads

00:29:58.420 to stochastic terrorism.

00:29:59.800 Most people think that violence is justified when someone is in self-defense.

00:30:06.520 So what these narratives are doing, they're radicalizing our youth, they're radicalizing

00:30:11.160 Zoomers, but also everyone else, but mostly Zoomers within academia and online, by constantly 0.64

00:30:19.780 creating a perception of reality that is entirely skewed and leads them to think that they are

00:30:27.180 in conditions where they have to defend themselves.

00:30:29.940 They believe that because these narratives are true, they are in conditions where they have

00:30:36.180 to defend themselves.

00:30:37.080 And therefore, they think that they are justified in using violence.

00:30:41.240 And I want to say that this is something unbelievably pernicious.

00:30:45.580 People who were in academia could see it.

00:30:47.940 I was in academia for more than a decade.

00:30:50.420 I could see it.

00:30:52.020 The level of evil you hear in academia is unprecedented.

00:30:57.440 And I was very much into studying authoritarianism and totalitarianism.

00:31:04.960 And I've been blocked by Anne Applebaum for telling her that you need to, yes, you need

00:31:10.720 to, you need to, you can't say you care about totalitarianism and authoritarianism and not

00:31:16.600 focus on wokeness. 0.92

00:31:18.080 She was playing a lot the Trump is fascist card. 0.97

00:31:20.660 Yes. 0.96

00:31:21.080 Right.

00:31:21.580 This absolutely vile rhetoric.

00:31:24.100 Anne Applebaum. 0.96

00:31:25.360 Anne Applebaum is evil. 0.98

00:31:26.360 That's, that's actually a, quite a good badge of honor to be blocked by.

00:31:31.720 Yeah.

00:31:32.560 Yeah.

00:31:33.140 So, I mean, I think we need to have a conversation about this and people within academia who are

00:31:40.720 sensible need to start speaking up because unless they speak up, they will find themselves

00:31:46.860 pandering to narcissists.

00:31:48.900 They already find themselves doing that very thing, but they need to be, all of them need

00:31:54.320 to become brave and start looking at what it is that they are pandering to.

00:31:58.540 And why are they doing this?

00:32:00.080 Not necessarily because they're bad people.

00:32:02.560 Far be it from me to suggest that all of them are bad people.

00:32:05.680 There are all sorts of reasons doing this.

00:32:07.260 But these narratives were popularized and turned mainstream by Obama and Hillary Clinton in the

00:32:14.840 last decade.

00:32:15.400 And it's one thing to say that there is a extremist narratives or narrative or series of narratives

00:32:23.580 within academia.

00:32:24.720 And at some point it has created the power keg that will blow up.

00:32:30.180 But when you say this, most people don't listen to you.

00:32:33.960 But now that this has real life consequences that more and more people wake up to, it's

00:32:41.160 time to have that conversation again.

00:32:42.680 Because we have said before that progressivism has extremist tendencies.

00:32:46.560 I want to show you several ways in which this happens, in ways in which the Democrats, some

00:32:56.240 of the mainstream Democrats, but not just them, are using that narrative in order to create

00:33:04.040 a false perception of reality to millions of people, according to which violence is justified.

00:33:10.800 And when you do that to millions of people, when you're spreading narrative after narrative

00:33:15.700 of victimhood, some of these people will actually do something.

00:33:20.020 That's why it's stochastic terrorism. 1.00

00:33:22.140 And that's why it's something that is deliberate and it must be resisted by people across the

00:33:28.140 political spectrum, because there have to be some decent Democrats or some decent supporters

00:33:34.100 of the Democrat Party, presumably, who will not want to live in a society or be members 0.89

00:33:42.020 of a party that is pandering to extremist, narcissist, psychopaths.

00:33:48.040 So just one thing to say really quickly, this narrative, according to which words of violence,

00:33:55.340 but also silence is violence, is essentially a narrative where you can't win.

00:34:00.320 It's completely authoritarian, right?

00:34:01.160 Exactly.

00:34:01.800 Unless you agree with the party, your existence is a threat.

00:34:07.100 It's a threat.

00:34:08.180 It's conducive to all sorts of imagined genocides that they are talking about.

00:34:15.180 Therefore, they think they are justified in using violence against them.

00:34:21.640 And also, they completely deflect because they use narrative controls within propaganda to

00:34:28.980 use this and project it on the other side.

00:34:32.440 That's why they constantly have people, for instance, in fashion, billboards where they

00:34:38.020 say, my existence is an act of defiance.

00:34:41.340 Right.

00:34:41.460 Meanwhile, when they're actually declaring the existence of the centers as an MNME they want

00:34:48.460 to see eliminated. 0.58

00:34:50.100 Because they call them Nazis, because they call them fascists, because they call them far 0.95

00:34:53.120 right.

00:34:53.380 But Nancy Pelosi here says Democrats can't take responsibility for their rhetoric against

00:34:57.980 conservatives.

00:34:59.320 Because their intention for violence is not for violence to achieve.

00:35:04.820 It's the classic thing.

00:35:05.660 I think it's very good to be at the very top of this segment where you said progressivism

00:35:09.540 isn't progress.

00:35:10.880 It's more or less barbarity.

00:35:14.140 Yeah, absolutely.

00:35:14.780 It's the classic thing.

00:35:15.420 There's a reason why George Orwell's 1984 is so sort of famous and prophetic.

00:35:20.980 The idea in it of double think, double speak.

00:35:23.560 Yes.

00:35:24.380 That war is love and all that sort of thing.

00:35:27.660 The ministry of truth, where it's all about propaganda and life.

00:35:30.820 War is...

00:35:31.300 The ministry of love, which is about culture and death.

00:35:33.820 All those things.

00:35:34.740 Absolutely.

00:35:35.080 Yeah.

00:35:35.240 The progress is actually pretty much the opposite.

00:35:38.740 The idea that diversity is a strength.

00:35:40.960 No, of course it's not.

00:35:42.280 It's a weakness.

00:35:43.240 Of course.

00:35:44.180 Of course.

00:35:45.880 And just the examples of that just go on and on and on.

00:35:49.660 Yeah, that they would co-op the word progress.

00:35:52.640 Exactly.

00:35:53.920 Sorry.

00:35:54.740 No, no, please.

00:35:56.820 Yeah, no, I just had another few examples, but I think most people get the idea.

00:36:01.640 This is precisely why I'm very much against, from day one, I'm very much against using the

00:36:06.780 language of the establishment, because first of all, I don't want to be carried into the

00:36:10.360 whole pronoun thing, but also progress is the exact opposite of what the far left wants

00:36:17.500 it to be.

00:36:18.240 This is barbarity.

00:36:19.200 That's not progress.

00:36:20.040 One of the things in the Cold War, very often sort of pro-communist, Soviet, actually full

00:36:27.260 Soviet organizations in the West would quite often use the word peace, some sort of peace

00:36:35.320 movement.

00:36:36.240 Join the peace movement.

00:36:37.960 Yes.

00:36:38.960 Again, the classic sort of double speak, double think.

00:36:41.800 Mao was saying a thing on the Red Book that our violence is anti-violence against imperialists.

00:36:48.800 Imperilists.

00:36:49.580 Yeah.

00:36:51.360 Right.

00:36:52.140 So I think that the events of these last days, the assassination of Charlie Kirk has created

00:37:00.620 a situation where more and more people wake up from this alarmist and extremist narrative.

00:37:08.780 And more and more people wake up from this and they can't do narrative control the way they

00:37:15.860 used to, because their side started cheering and they can't take this back.

00:37:22.560 Yeah.

00:37:22.580 They tried to take this back when they started gaslighting everyone by focusing on the quantity

00:37:28.660 of different messages when they said, no, it's a right-wing killer.

00:37:34.940 One parallel I've just thought of, maybe someone else has said it, I'm sure someone else has

00:37:38.440 said it, but it's just popped into my mind.

00:37:39.860 After 9-11, on the day of 9-11, there were people chanting and weeping up in the streets

00:37:45.080 in certain Middle Eastern countries.

00:37:46.500 Yes.

00:37:46.660 And that is very, very, a lot of people, I know a lot of people saw that and was like,

00:37:52.160 wait, what, really?

00:37:53.380 Wait, they're cheering for this.

00:37:55.980 I couldn't believe it.

00:37:56.560 I didn't know that.

00:37:57.140 I didn't know people felt like that.

00:37:58.480 In Egypt or Saudi Arabia or wherever, or Iran, I didn't realise they hated us that much.

00:38:05.280 I think this Charlie Kirk thing where various people were literally whooping and cheering

00:38:09.880 and having a good time with it, I think a lot of people, Normias, I suppose, have woken

00:38:15.660 up to be like, oh, oh no, they really do hate us with sort of murderous intent.

00:38:20.680 Yes.

00:38:21.060 Oh, wow.

00:38:21.520 Okay.

00:38:21.780 I didn't know that before.

00:38:23.840 Here we have someone reading and practising probably the Maoist playbook that we just mentioned.

00:38:31.400 It says, Trump threw gasoline on the fire, made growing political violence, expert says.

00:38:35.880 Right, so yeah, it's Trump's fault, according to him.

00:38:40.560 David Pakman says, Maga is already declaring open season on the left after Charlie Kirk's

00:38:45.380 disgusting assassination is the opposite of what we need.

00:38:49.360 Are you going to take responsibility for creating and sustaining an alarmist culture?

00:38:54.680 Not holding my breath.

00:38:56.400 Right, so let's focus a bit on the philosophy behind it and then focus also on some other

00:39:03.580 aspects of it.

00:39:04.460 Right, so Carl and Thomas Dowling did a premium piece here on Marcuse, the repressive tolerance.

00:39:12.180 This was in 2021 because Marcuse is behind a lot of these movements.

00:39:19.960 He also had this piece on repressive tolerance.

00:39:24.680 Let me, please, can I have control of the mouse, please?

00:39:28.100 Right.

00:39:28.360 James Lindsay, who has worked also a lot on this, he says essentially that in repressive

00:39:33.820 tolerance, Marcuse insists violence from the left and violence from the right are not

00:39:38.820 the same.

00:39:39.420 Violence from the left is a moral necessity and must be tolerated.

00:39:43.700 Nothing from the right should be tolerated.

00:39:45.820 That's essentially the message.

00:39:47.120 If you want to read also, if you want to check also the video that Carl and Thomas did, subscribe

00:39:55.100 on loads of cedars and watch it.

00:39:57.740 I think that's also, that may be, yeah, check it out.

00:40:01.660 Right.

00:40:02.500 And I want to say that this is a part of the philosophical aspect of this, but there is

00:40:08.260 also another part that came from attacking traditional Western civilization, especially

00:40:13.640 from the 50s and the 60s.

00:40:15.320 There were lots of people who literally blamed reason for World War II and reason for oppression

00:40:24.220 and all sorts of oppression and discrimination and everything.

00:40:28.060 And they popularized the narrative according to which the Logos, which is the central pillar

00:40:35.160 of Western civilization, and almost every strong pillar of it, the Logos is the pillar of Western

00:40:42.820 civilization, they attacked it as a form of oppression itself.

00:40:47.820 When you do this, no wonder you're going to get out with screeching people who are glorifying

00:40:54.180 their whims and have zero emotional regulation.

00:40:57.640 And they think that just because they feel oppressed, they are oppressed and they are justified

00:41:01.980 in killing everyone. 0.88

00:41:02.780 The pillar of Western civilization is the idea that emotions should be held in check by reason

00:41:10.660 and by the higher aspect of our nature, because unless we do so, we are going to be completely

00:41:18.380 governed by the lesser aspects of our nature.

00:41:21.760 That's, in a nutshell, Plato's Republic.

00:41:24.260 The tyrant is governed by their lower self.

00:41:28.060 Right, and we have here Obama, who basically says, I want you to stay angry, I want you

00:41:33.340 to stay frustrated.

00:41:34.900 He wants this narrative to continue.

00:41:37.060 We have Hillary Clinton, who said half the U.S., half the supporters of Trump are a basket

00:41:43.540 of deplorables. 0.97

00:41:45.000 And she compared them with Nazis and fascists. 0.97

00:41:47.680 This ridiculous, alarmist narrative, according to which unless you support open borders, you're

00:41:53.420 a supporter of Hitler, as if the people who fought and won Hitler were in favor of open

00:41:58.540 borders.

00:41:59.140 They weren't.

00:42:00.200 Right.

00:42:00.580 We have here all these things from Joe Biden, who was, again, fanning the flames of this

00:42:07.740 ridiculously alarming narratives, saying Donald Trump is the greatest threat to a democracy.

00:42:13.460 He's a genuine threat to this nation.

00:42:15.840 He's a threat to a freedom, a threat to a democracy, a threat to everything America stands

00:42:20.600 for.

00:42:21.780 Threat to a democracy poses many threats to a country, but the greatest threats to a democracy,

00:42:26.320 if we lose that, we lose everything.

00:42:27.920 Just here we have threads of Democrats essentially calling for violence and normalizing violence

00:42:36.880 against Trump.

00:42:37.720 I'm not going to show all of it because I'm mindful of time.

00:42:40.880 Jasmine Crockett, the violence is all from MAGA, not the left.

00:42:46.220 It's just, you can't get more disgustingly mistaken.

00:42:51.020 And deliberately.

00:42:52.480 Yeah.

00:42:52.660 Not interested in truth or reality, not remotely.

00:42:55.920 It's all narrative control.

00:42:57.320 It's not interesting.

00:42:57.920 All narrative control.

00:42:59.100 Here we have also media.

00:43:01.920 We have influencers from the left essentially calling for violence.

00:43:07.440 If that's not an incitement to violence, I don't know what is.

00:43:11.140 But they're keeping that alive.

00:43:12.920 What did Piker actually say and do?

00:43:16.140 Well, he said that they need to be gutting them.

00:43:20.280 Right.

00:43:20.780 Yeah, that's right.

00:43:21.500 I'm here.

00:43:22.240 Right.

00:43:23.580 Right.

00:43:23.920 Now, let's go to the UK just for a moment to show how this alarmist narrative plays into

00:43:30.460 UK politics.

00:43:31.800 Owen Jones.

00:43:32.740 The far right wants to shut down democracy, crush the left, who say they see us traitors

00:43:37.080 and drive out minorities, who they see as an existential threat to the notion of Western

00:43:41.140 civilization.

00:43:41.780 Everything they do is a means to those ends.

00:43:47.340 The idea that replacing people with a people of different culture is not a threat to the 1.00

00:43:54.060 existing civilization is stupid. 1.00

00:43:56.940 It's a destruction of the demos. 1.00

00:43:59.640 And you can't have a democracy without a demos.

00:44:02.940 Exactly. 0.79

00:44:03.240 And by constantly offending your demos and calling them extremist lunatics. 0.95

00:44:08.900 Exactly. 0.94

00:44:09.520 But the idea that if this country becomes 50% Muslim, it'll still have the same governing 1.00

00:44:15.080 system is so laughable, is so dishonest, is so pathetic. 1.00

00:44:21.040 Even the Palestinians, when you talk to the honest ones, they'll tell you, we don't want 1.00

00:44:24.220 a Palestinian state.

00:44:25.780 We want a fundamental change in the whole regime that stops us from becoming another Georgian 1.00

00:44:30.640 or Egypt, because they know that this group produces this polity.

00:44:36.200 So the idea that, oh, they're just vulnerable minorities and they're a threat.

00:44:41.600 Guys, let's just be honest about this.

00:44:43.940 This is not how it works.

00:44:45.120 There are genuine threats, and we need to focus on empirical data.

00:44:48.720 I think one of the best things about AOC has been said by Thomas Sowell.

00:44:52.760 He said her speech is incredibly manipulative.

00:44:56.580 She mentions no facts.

00:44:58.160 It's all emotion.

00:45:01.160 It's all emotion.

00:45:01.920 Here we have...

00:45:02.440 Sorry.

00:45:03.420 Farrah says, you know, let's just be honest.

00:45:05.500 Let's have an honest conversation.

00:45:06.620 Well, that's the exact thing that someone like Owen Jones isn't prepared to do.

00:45:09.960 Not at all.

00:45:10.820 He talks about other people lying all the time, that X, Y, Z concept or narrative was always

00:45:16.540 a lie.

00:45:16.980 He says that a lot.

00:45:18.600 He's the one peddling in misinformation.

00:45:21.080 Completely.

00:45:21.500 He was the one who's saying right up to the last minute that there's no such thing as

00:45:24.400 grooming gangs. 0.96

00:45:25.520 You think he's going to be a sort of favorite homosexual in the caliphate. 0.99

00:45:31.980 That's what he thinks he might be in a best case scenario. 0.76

00:45:34.140 I don't know if he even understands the implications of the things that he's advocating.

00:45:37.480 Well, he can only peddle lies.

00:45:38.720 And if someone like when there was that Bataclan thing...

00:45:41.120 Oh, no, sorry.

00:45:41.500 Not Bataclan. 0.97

00:45:42.000 I think there was some sort of gay nightclub shooting. 0.87

00:45:44.800 Maybe it was Orlando. 0.92

00:45:45.980 Yes.

00:45:46.760 He'll just get up and leave an interview because he's got nothing.

00:45:50.040 He's got nothing.

00:45:50.740 Yes.

00:45:50.880 He's the type of person who can't have a genuine debate.

00:45:53.740 Oh, yeah.

00:45:54.140 Oh, bad faith.

00:45:55.260 Every time, without fail, as hard and as deep as possible.

00:45:59.580 Zoe Garner here.

00:46:01.980 She... 1.00

00:46:02.260 Yeah, I think we should have only become aware of her in the last couple of days.

00:46:03.720 Just look at this.

00:46:04.380 Look at the narrative.

00:46:05.740 There's a darkness coming.

00:46:08.420 It's already swallowed America. 0.75

00:46:09.980 And now it's coming for us, too.

00:46:13.700 In 2019, we protested against Donald Trump and we thought, if we shout loud enough, maybe

00:46:18.700 he'll go away.

00:46:19.360 Now he's back.

00:46:20.700 On September 17th, Donald Trump...

00:46:22.540 So, she's essentially saying, we thought that if we played the democratic card, we would

00:46:28.400 win, but we lost.

00:46:31.180 What else do you want?

00:46:33.300 Well, if we don't win, it's fascism.

00:46:35.140 Here, let's remember this man who is essentially playing into this alarmist narrative, according

00:46:41.860 to which everyone who disagrees with the left is a fascist.

00:46:45.700 And let us see his true colors and how they were revealed.

00:46:49.980 Let us remember this.

00:46:50.920 And then they had the Free Palestine chant.

00:47:08.440 So, he's essentially playing into this narrative, according to which everyone who disagrees with

00:47:14.320 the left is Mussolini at best.

00:47:17.040 And they deserve the treatment of throat slashing, according to this reprehensible rhetoric and 0.98

00:47:27.300 man. 0.98

00:47:27.640 Who was released?

00:47:31.760 He didn't face any consequences for them.

00:47:35.160 Yes, he didn't remain the labor counselor, but I don't think that that's, I don't know, just

00:47:39.520 this is precisely this, the far radical left rhetoric that is creating the polarization.

00:47:47.260 It's inventing enemies and politicians, and you could say that he is a minor figure, but

00:47:54.140 politicians like Obama and Hillary Clinton and politicians who had the top, who occupy

00:48:00.300 the top echelons of power are normalizing this rhetoric.

00:48:03.940 They are pandering to people with this rhetoric.

00:48:07.160 And if, unless they change course, they will find themselves completely pandering to narcissistic 0.98

00:48:13.240 psychopaths.

00:48:13.880 And I think it's worth pointing out, just real quick, that it is the left doing it first

00:48:18.840 and the right only reacting to it.

00:48:21.200 I think I said it on the other day, there's a reason why all throughout history, the right

00:48:25.440 has been known as reactionary, the forces of reaction. 0.64

00:48:29.600 Yeah, we're reacting to your insanity.

00:48:31.700 Yeah. 0.97

00:48:32.160 Yeah.

00:48:32.340 You did it first.

00:48:33.400 You forced our hand.

00:48:34.340 You painted us into a corner here.

00:48:37.820 It's not like people like Roger Scruton or Jacob Rees-Mogg were the first to call for

00:48:43.540 throats being cut, right?

00:48:45.360 It's not that.

00:48:46.100 That's not how it went.

00:48:47.400 Exactly.

00:48:47.840 Right.

00:48:48.140 Exactly.

00:48:48.540 Exactly.

00:48:49.960 They're continuously dishonest about it. 0.87

00:48:52.180 They will murder you and say that it's your fault for getting murdered. 0.78

00:48:55.760 Yeah. 0.99

00:48:56.180 If you hadn't been controversial, you wouldn't have deserved to be murdered. 0.99

00:48:59.880 This is the narcissist who says, look what you made me do. 0.95

00:49:02.760 And what we said before about the logos is incredibly important.

00:49:07.160 It's not just a theoretical thing to say to sound smart.

00:49:11.880 It's very, very, very specific.

00:49:14.980 The Democrats have pandered to the very emotional side of politics, and they have found themselves

00:49:22.660 in a situation where you could arguably say that the best of humanity, compassion, is

00:49:28.600 being twisted against humanity.

00:49:30.300 Yes.

00:49:30.920 Because it's normal to try to understand people.

00:49:34.440 It's normal to try to show respect to people.

00:49:37.400 It's, I'd say, a good thing to show goodwill to people in society who claim to be oppressed,

00:49:44.200 and just listen to them.

00:49:45.700 Listen to them.

00:49:46.480 But what they have done is that because they have jettisoned the idea of reason as that

00:49:52.780 which regulates emotions, they have locked themselves into a situation where they cannot

00:49:58.540 impose limits on the narcissists who are going to essentially push for claiming that you

00:50:07.800 can't really respect me unless you agree with me and do as I say.

00:50:11.620 You can't really give voice to the unheard unless you do exactly as they say.

00:50:15.320 You can't really show compassion to me unless you agree with my self-conception and do as I say.

00:50:22.460 That's the kind of Democrat Party that is the legacy of Obama.

00:50:28.380 And the good thing, I want to end up on a good note, because we should focus on the good note as well.

00:50:35.000 There were people who instantly, from the Democrat Party, instantly went out and said that that's not in my name.

00:50:42.920 I'm leaving, I'm considering leaving, I'm considering stop supporting.

00:50:46.740 And they didn't do it afterwards when there was backlash.

00:50:50.220 They did it instantly.

00:50:52.180 So we have here, she's saying that basically that she's had enough.

00:50:57.340 We have also other people.

00:50:59.980 Check out our links.

00:51:02.360 They're speaking against this.

00:51:04.200 Dean Withers, I want to basically say this.

00:51:10.360 He was sensible.

00:51:12.960 He was actually compassionate, which suggests to me that he's very young.

00:51:18.540 He's one of the white dudes for Harris.

00:51:20.260 He's very young.

00:51:21.280 He was brought into this because he wants to be compassionate and he wants to show goodwill to people.

00:51:29.140 But, and my message to Dean Withers is just, well done for this.

00:51:36.300 And also, you need to start thinking of the distinction between imposing limits on narcissists and letting them have their way with you.

00:51:48.300 All decent people should learn to do this.

00:51:50.380 Here, Don Joseph also had a 10-minute video and says, I'm a lifelong Democrat.

00:51:57.360 I'm done.

00:51:58.220 That's not in my name.

00:51:59.800 Definitely check this video out because there are also good people on the other side.

00:52:04.660 And these are times where people may be prone to demonize everyone on the other side.

00:52:11.540 It's important, as Firas said before, to think of reconciliation and the Democrats need to hold their party in check.

00:52:20.540 Yes.

00:52:21.080 They need to do this.

00:52:22.540 Bernie spoke also.

00:52:24.880 I want to say that Bernie is very much respected in the Democrat Party and in many ways AOC is seen as his successor.

00:52:33.260 But I do think AOC is precisely this hyper-emotional, is using this hyper-emotional rhetoric.

00:52:43.860 I know, somehow they have to check their party.

00:52:46.960 I wrote an article, among the first articles I wrote for Lotus East, actually, so probably four plus years ago,

00:52:52.840 likening AOC to a very inarticulate version of Marat in the French Revolution.

00:53:00.260 Jean-Paul Marat.

00:53:01.220 Yeah.

00:53:01.480 A sewer lurker.

00:53:03.620 Yeah.

00:53:04.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:53:04.800 A rabble rouser. 0.99

00:53:07.180 Somebody playing with matches.

00:53:10.980 But at least the real Marat was extremely eloquent and well-read.

00:53:16.580 She's not even that.

00:53:18.640 Someone that's here to burn it all down.

00:53:22.240 Yes. 0.99

00:53:22.460 Someone that's here to, if you're not completely in line with them, to get you killed. 0.97

00:53:29.320 Yeah, a monstrous figure, really.

00:53:33.180 Jesus is king, makes a donation of £10.

00:53:36.140 Thank you very much.

00:53:37.420 Helen hands forehead for £5.

00:53:40.740 Seen several people attribute Nick Fuentes' quotes to Charlie Kirk.

00:53:44.300 I'm starting to think the leftoids celebrating have genuinely confused him for Nick.

00:53:48.160 Danesca for £5 also.

00:53:51.940 No, €5.

00:53:52.940 Yeah.

00:53:53.380 Hello from a French overseas department called Guadeloupe in the Caribbean.

00:53:57.360 Get your country back, gentlemen.

00:53:59.580 Crackdog for $3. 1.00

00:54:02.300 Says the Groeper narrative is painfully stupid. 1.00

00:54:05.440 True. 1.00

00:54:05.620 Right, and here we have Tomrat247 for a dollar.

00:54:11.380 Thank you.

00:54:11.820 The Kirkening has revealed that the modern US left most resemble the Badr-Meinhof group sympathizers in West Germany.

00:54:18.820 Troubling.

00:54:20.100 Steele Fang says...

00:54:22.400 Badr-Meinhof was a far-left German terrorist group that assassinated a bunch of corporate types

00:54:28.640 and was closely aligned with the Palestinians.

00:54:31.900 Yeah.

00:54:32.080 The Weather Underground.

00:54:33.440 The German version of that.

00:54:34.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:35.400 There's lots of...

00:54:36.020 Over the years, there's been lots of them.

00:54:38.580 Leftist violence in the 60s is one of the areas of history that is very poorly covered.

00:54:44.660 Steele Fang says...

00:54:45.820 Excuse me?

00:54:48.740 Okay.

00:54:49.120 Steele Fang for $10 says there's a darkness coming.

00:54:53.300 It's called Islam.

00:54:55.640 OPHUK for $2 says in AOC's defense, she's got a great rack. 0.93

00:55:03.420 Right, okay.

00:55:04.860 As far as to the third side.

00:55:07.080 So let's talk about some of the sort of disinformation from the media on the protest that we saw in London on Saturday.

00:55:16.520 This isn't a full coverage of the event.

00:55:19.080 There's going to be more coming in tomorrow.

00:55:21.060 But I just want to talk a little bit about the dishonesty.

00:55:24.100 On the BBC, I had to look through their pages because none of their main pages had anything about it.

00:55:31.540 They had zero analysis of it, and they only had one story about fighting with the police in which any kind of mention of what were the drivers of the protest were left to the very far bottom of the piece.

00:55:46.880 Completely buried the lead, tried to cover it in the worst way possible, and the focus was on, oh, there was a bit of violence.

00:55:54.760 And really, that's just Tommy Robbins' fault, and it's the protesters' fault.

00:55:58.620 No respect as to what these people wanted, no respect as to why there was a protest, no self-reflection whatsoever on why one of the biggest demonstrations in London's history happened.

00:56:13.840 And why so many people from mostly a working class background were joined by people from across the world to speak about the problems of Britain.

00:56:24.260 Zero self-reflection.

00:56:25.800 And the whole point of it is that we don't want to think about it.

00:56:29.060 We just want to call them far right. 0.91

00:56:31.560 Well, auntie is a spiteful mutant. 1.00

00:56:33.840 I don't know if either of you know this, not growing up in Britain, but the BBC used to be called, often called itself, auntie.

00:56:41.300 It doesn't really do that anymore, but it used to.

00:56:43.180 They do a show that showed loads of sports bloopers, and it would be auntie's sporting bloomers and stuff like that.

00:56:50.400 As though it's a member of your family, a loving member of your family.

00:56:53.540 Yes, yes, yes.

00:56:54.860 But no, again, classic leftist stuff.

00:56:57.020 It's the absolute opposite that's going on.

00:56:58.580 It's now a tool, nakedly, a tool for subversion.

00:57:04.080 Well, if you want to do something extremely positively subversive, watch old BBC footage from the 60s and 70s.

00:57:13.180 Where they present a pristine, ordered, thoughtful society that actually works.

00:57:21.140 And contrast it with the mess that you have today.

00:57:26.380 Some of their older documentaries are absolutely stunning.

00:57:32.380 Sure.

00:57:32.620 But today, it's just hostility.

00:57:37.840 And we got the expected reactions from the usual suspects.

00:57:43.420 Zahra Sultana, obviously she's using the language of the far left, so she's describing everybody she doesn't like as fascist and far right. 0.63

00:57:52.020 Sure.

00:57:52.300 And I don't blame her for that.

00:57:56.620 She is using the subversive language of the communists in order to push her own community's interests. 0.95

00:58:03.700 This is precisely what's happening.

00:58:05.460 And if you think there's an ounce of principle there, please, come on.

00:58:10.180 First, understand that Marxism is a Christian heresy, then you understand why the Muslims use it in this way. 0.99

00:58:17.320 They use it to undermine Christendom.

00:58:19.640 That's the whole purpose behind it.

00:58:22.400 You see the BBC using a black presenter, of course, to call the protest far right and to call Tommy Robinson far right.

00:58:33.080 That's sort of something that they keep on repeating.

00:58:38.800 And the pairing of the presenter with the message is not accidental.

00:58:44.180 This is deliberate.

00:58:45.560 They're trying to show that the poor minorities are victims as we, the minorities, work our way to becoming a majority.

00:58:55.460 This is not something that you should wish for.

00:58:57.500 Speaking of this, I have a question for you, for us, which is entirely rhetorical.

00:59:02.080 There were around 25 arrests from a political demonstration of people who went to the United Kingdom rally.

00:59:13.520 There were around 500 arrests, not in a political demonstration, but on a celebration, the Notting Hill Carnival.

00:59:22.080 What does that mean?

00:59:23.900 Does that mean that the celebration of some people is sometimes more dangerous than the peaceful protest of some other people?

00:59:32.080 I will answer you honestly.

00:59:34.520 It brings us to a lot of Charlie Kirk's points about the problem of black crime. 0.98

00:59:41.440 And this is a problem that should be spoken about using data and compassion, not be shied away from and be presented as the black community being victims.

00:59:54.400 You mentioned earlier the way that they have these imagined genocides.

01:00:02.340 If you ask the average Democrat how many unarmed black men get shot by the police every year, they will say something in the thousands when the actual number is something between 10 and 20.

01:00:14.000 And a lot of them being actually driving a vehicle at the police or they had a knife next to them or a gun next to them and then they were shot while not holding it.

01:00:23.960 So it's just complete dishonesty.

01:00:28.320 The aging communist Paul Mason, violent attacks on the police and anti-racists.

01:00:35.780 It's a sort of representation of good versus evil.

01:00:39.280 The far right rally, football types, many already on their third can of lager.

01:00:44.320 Okay, this kind of mockery of the working class from a communist is very Soviet, very properly Soviet. 0.67

01:00:54.140 They said that they were all for the working class and they absolutely stomped their heads as quickly and as severely as they could.

01:01:03.160 The kulaks are a part of the problem. 1.00

01:01:04.780 The peasants are absolutely the problem.

01:01:06.960 Exactly, exactly.

01:01:08.140 For socialists.

01:01:09.220 The minute they came within the radar of power, they said we need a vanguard party.

01:01:16.640 Yes, exactly.

01:01:17.940 And look at what he calls himself, radical social democrat.

01:01:21.820 Just call yourself a communist, Paul.

01:01:23.460 Just have the decency of respecting our intellect.

01:01:26.620 And one point to make, it's interesting that we all know this already, I'm restating the obvious, 0.88

01:01:33.100 but they go after Tommy so hard when, in fact, he's a racist, he's a white supremacist and all that sort of thing.

01:01:41.600 No, he's a multiculturalist. 0.69

01:01:43.020 He's fully a multiculturalist.

01:01:44.560 Like, I'm to the right of Tommy Robinson, guys.

01:01:47.300 Didn't he have like a black choir singing there at one point?

01:01:51.220 He brought on some Maoris.

01:01:52.960 He had Maoris.

01:01:53.880 So, it's like, so he's a multiculturalist.

01:01:56.980 So, it's multiculturalist.

01:01:58.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:59.260 Very much so.

01:02:00.160 Very much so.

01:02:01.080 But here's the demonization.

01:02:03.400 This is the radicalized mass base of reform and the Tories.

01:02:07.940 Wearing our country's flag as a badge of white identity. 0.86

01:02:10.980 Guys, if you didn't know that Britain is white and India is brown, I don't know what to do for you. 1.00

01:02:17.640 Like, I don't know how to help you.

01:02:19.680 It's not Bo's fault that he's pale-skinned.

01:02:21.960 I don't hold it against him. 0.99

01:02:23.340 And it's fucked up that you do. 0.98

01:02:26.780 We must learn the lessons of the 1930s. 0.99

01:02:31.900 And then you have that aging degenerate Peter Thatchell.

01:02:36.560 Tens of thousands of supporters cheered speeches urging a ban of public expression of non-Christian religions, based.

01:02:43.240 Demanded the remigration of legal migrants, based.

01:02:47.480 Pushed COVID conspiracy theories.

01:02:49.420 Were you asleep during COVID?

01:02:51.420 And claimed that Britain is being invaded.

01:02:53.600 Where's the lie?

01:02:54.860 Like, if the illegal migrants outnumber the armed forces, and they're all young men, what's, like, I mean... 0.75

01:03:01.500 Peter, it is being invaded.

01:03:03.260 It has been invaded, Peter. 0.97

01:03:04.840 And you see, I just wanted to mention something from the stupid numbers machine called Grok. 0.94

01:03:10.900 Tommy Robinson hasn't explicitly called for authoritarian ultranationalism in those words, but critics, example, the Guardian and the ADL, point to his EDL founding anti-Islam campaign rally rhetoric promoting strict nationalism, he's a multicultural, as fitting the description. 0.94

01:03:28.120 You know what, like, there's another bit.

01:03:30.740 If you constantly say they're about to destroy society, you're essentially, you're just telling to your voters, hey, guys, you're so great.

01:03:40.640 Keep voting for me, because you're preventing the Armageddon.

01:03:43.580 Yes, pretty much.

01:03:44.980 And the more you develop a sense that the next time we lose an election, it's going to be a genocide, the more you justify violence.

01:03:53.420 And the more you say the people who vote for reform and the Tory party are fascist far right?

01:04:00.160 Yeah, they're not as left as Mao. 0.73

01:04:04.760 It's insane.

01:04:06.340 I wanted to play this one-minute clip from Trevor Phillips, of all people.

01:04:10.980 If you don't remember, he was Tony Blair's guy to look at inequality in Britain.

01:04:16.780 Yeah.

01:04:17.000 So his job was to go and woke up.

01:04:20.400 The OG, DEI.

01:04:21.480 Yeah, he's the original DEI enforcer.

01:04:26.060 He's the DEI czar of Tony Blair.

01:04:29.260 And that's who he is.

01:04:30.520 Because what conclusions did that commission or whatever it was come to?

01:04:33.800 That we were all racist.

01:04:35.240 Everybody was racist, obviously.

01:04:36.360 I think systemically racist.

01:04:37.440 Obviously, yeah.

01:04:38.040 Everything, all the time.

01:04:39.440 And here's what he says.

01:04:42.660 The most alarming aspect of the event was just how normal the vast majority of the marches were.

01:04:49.000 I spent an hour or two amongst them, and my own impression was that they were mostly the sort of people you'd meet in a country pub,

01:04:54.780 or in a half-time queue for the loo at football or at a concert.

01:04:57.800 But there was a sprinkling of black and brown faces, and the event was brought to a close by a gospel group singing Jerusalem.

01:05:06.300 All that must worry the traditional mass parties, Labour and Conservatives, now polling at less than 40% between them.

01:05:14.900 They're draining support to parties like Reform and the Greens.

01:05:18.240 And yet a man recently out of jail, condemned as an extremist thug by most mainstream media outlets,

01:05:26.100 can rally a demo the size of the entire population of Cambridge or Blackpool.

01:05:31.800 A feat you couldn't imagine either Sakhir Starmer or Kemi Badenok pulling off any time soon.

01:05:38.580 Perhaps the people are sending us all a message.

01:05:41.300 Let's see if anyone at Westminster is listening.

01:05:45.500 And then, because he said something sensible, Sky News took this clip down.

01:05:52.100 The sort of censorship wall around normal people and their grievances that goes through every single media establishment is absolutely crazy.

01:06:08.340 This is a guy saying that the protesters maybe have some legitimate grievances.

01:06:14.320 You might not like all of them.

01:06:16.260 I'm sure there were a couple of thugs there, but on the whole, they're normal people.

01:06:21.740 And the response is, no, no, no, no, no.

01:06:23.960 He never said it.

01:06:24.660 We're going to memory hole it instantly.

01:06:26.360 Just as the BBC is trying to memory hole the protest itself.

01:06:29.480 You can imagine.

01:06:30.040 Uh-oh, Trevor Phillips has just revealed himself as a Nazi.

01:06:33.080 Exactly.

01:06:33.600 He was a Nazi all along. 0.91

01:06:34.600 Exactly.

01:06:34.780 Trevor Phillips.

01:06:35.340 Oh, no.

01:06:36.040 Trevor Phillips was one of them all along.

01:06:38.100 The OG DEI czar of Tony frickin' Blair.

01:06:42.000 And you can't listen to him saying, these are normal people.

01:06:47.880 And none of you can pull off a rally like this.

01:06:50.480 If Cami Berenog called for a rally, who'd go there?

01:06:53.600 I think, other than the front bench or the Tory MPs, if they didn't have anything better to do, nobody else would show up.

01:07:03.140 So these people are deliberately out of touch.

01:07:07.440 And exactly the point that you made.

01:07:08.840 It's not just that there was a much smaller number of arrests, Beau.

01:07:11.960 It's that there were no weapons and no sexual offences.

01:07:14.340 Nobody got raped.

01:07:15.160 Nobody got stabbed.

01:07:16.540 You can't say that about Notting Hill.

01:07:18.360 Look at how they cover Notting Hill.

01:07:19.740 Look at how they cover Unite the Kingdom.

01:07:22.400 How many twerking offences up against a policeman were there?

01:07:25.280 All twerking is an offence.

01:07:28.060 And so Ed Davey and a bunch of other commentators began to lose their minds because Elon Musk said some very nasty and dangerous things.

01:07:38.160 Including the violence is coming to you.

01:07:40.520 Now let's look at what Elon said with a little bit of context, please.

01:07:44.960 If you can help me get the right seconds.

01:07:58.900 And in fact, this is a government against the people and not for the people.

01:08:09.280 This is why everyone is gathered here today is something's got to be done.

01:08:17.880 This is unacceptable.

01:08:18.840 The government needs to be responsible to the people of Britain.

01:08:24.440 It needs to protect Britain.

01:08:25.880 It needs to protect the weak.

01:08:28.240 Those who cannot protect themselves, especially the children.

01:08:31.780 And when I read about some of the horrific stories and how the government did nothing and tried to hide it, they tried to hide these horrific crimes.

01:08:41.700 And then you see how much violence there is on the left with our friend Charlie Cook getting murdered in cold blood this week and people on the left celebrating it openly.

01:08:56.380 The left is the party of murder and celebrating murder.

01:09:03.380 I mean, let that sink in for a minute.

01:09:09.320 So, yeah, can we go to the, that's one apparently terrible, terrible thing he said.

01:09:17.320 The British government should be responsive to the British people.

01:09:19.960 The left is celebrating murder.

01:09:21.860 If you keep on celebrating murder, that by definition makes you the party of murder. 0.99

01:09:25.680 I mean, these were people who were laughing when this random comedian had a skit with a beheaded, bloody Donald Trump. 0.97

01:09:35.100 Yeah. 0.97

01:09:35.440 They were celebrating all of that.

01:09:38.020 Kathy Griffin.

01:09:38.880 Yeah, whatever her name is.

01:09:41.380 They were constantly calling everybody who disagrees with them, one brand of far left or the other.

01:09:47.640 Yeah, please reload it and then put it at the 510.

01:09:50.380 Um, so they were constantly doing all of this, but, um, it's really bad that Elon Musk sort of pointed out that this is exactly what they were doing.

01:10:00.800 And then the other thing that got people very angry is this.

01:10:05.140 Could you replay it, please?

01:10:05.940 British common sense, which is to look carefully around you and say, if this continues, what, what, what will, what world will you be living in?

01:10:15.140 This is, this is a message to the reasonable center.

01:10:19.820 The people who ordinarily wouldn't get involved in politics, uh, who just want to live their lives.

01:10:25.960 They don't want, they, they, they, they're quiet.

01:10:28.580 They just go about their business.

01:10:30.520 My message is to them.

01:10:32.620 If this continues, that violence is going to come to you.

01:10:38.960 You will have no choice.

01:10:40.420 This is a, this is, you're, you're in a fundamental situation here where you, where, whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you.

01:10:52.200 You either fight back or you die.

01:10:56.460 So this pissed off a lot of people because the language used was stark, but as, as a sort of someone who's covered civil wars for pretty much all of my career, um, that's exactly right.

01:11:10.420 If you, if you allow the extremism to get out of control, if you don't try to contain it, you can't sit in the center and say, I'm neutral because the people chucking bombs at each other around you won't care about you.

01:11:25.880 So what Musk is saying, sorry, what Musk is saying is extremely sensible here and it's absolutely correct.

01:11:30.880 It, it happens many times.

01:11:33.240 You will have someone like Musk or other people putting forward a descriptive statement and saying, if things escalate.

01:11:41.760 Yes.

01:11:42.120 And nothing reverses this polarization and escalation, things will get messy.

01:11:48.620 Yes.

01:11:49.560 That's a descriptive statement and it's uncontroversial.

01:11:53.020 It's true.

01:11:54.340 Yep.

01:11:54.560 It's, it's, it's even axiomatic.

01:11:56.760 It's not, it's not a particularly controversial thing to say, but then the response of the other side is going to be, no, that's not descriptive.

01:12:04.240 That's exhort.

01:12:04.900 That's an exhortation to violence.

01:12:06.660 Exactly.

01:12:07.040 Because they want to found the flames of the alarmist narratives of victimhood in order to make their people think they're justified in committing violence.

01:12:15.540 Exactly.

01:12:15.900 Confirming the multiculturalism theme, there were a lot of protest speeches that were anti-Islam and I would argue rightly so and I'll explain why. 1.00

01:12:26.760 But Tommy Robinson puts out a tweet saying about, saying that this Muslim guy went to the protest and actually liked it and thought that if there were 3 million people there, then maybe 500,000 he wouldn't have liked, but the rest he got along with perfectly. 1.00

01:12:42.220 So the idea that this was, again, some kind of insane racist march, okay, you had people ripping up, you had Maoris ripping up the flags of the Muslim Brotherhood and Palestine for some reason, ISIS and secular humanism, okay, and then you have this mockery of the working class because some guy wanted Indian food.

01:13:07.180 Like, there's no contradiction between saying, okay, a certain percentage of people is acceptable, but I want my country to be overwhelmingly of my group and saying, okay, I enjoy foreign dishes here and there.

01:13:23.240 These are not completely opposed philosophical principles and to treat them as such shows how poor your own understanding of philosophical principles is.

01:13:35.620 You're just trying to say they're working class, therefore they're racist, but they eat Indian food. 1.00

01:13:40.300 You're just being a jerk. 0.99

01:13:42.220 Or how much of the bottom of the barrel they're scraping when it comes to arguments. 1.00

01:13:45.900 Yeah.

01:13:46.560 So the thing is, we know we've got the recipe for onion barges now.

01:13:51.440 We've actually got the recipe so we can make them for ourselves, actually, even if we deported every single person from India. 1.00

01:13:58.140 I'll teach you how to make Lebanese food before I go.

01:13:59.780 We'll still have onion barges.

01:14:01.660 You're never getting my sublucky recipe.

01:14:04.000 I want to stay, right? 0.99

01:14:05.500 So there's this speech, Islam doesn't belong in Europe, Islam doesn't belong in the UK, Islam is an enemy. 0.99

01:14:12.900 I want to, and this is posted by Dili Hussain, who's the deputy editor of Five Pillars, the mother of all fifth columnist websites. 0.90

01:14:24.960 And these guys from the same website say the following.

01:14:29.400 I mean, I just see them as potential Muslims, you know, that's like, you know, I see a pub as a future mosque.

01:14:37.720 That's what I'm here to do, you know, not to keep this country, not to be a minority in this country, in a non-Muslim majority country. 1.00

01:14:45.320 I want this country to become Muslim, obviously through a process of dawah and not through violence or anything like that.

01:14:50.540 Ha ha ha.

01:14:51.660 You know how mealy-mouthed this is, given how they defended the terrorists.

01:14:56.000 Even now on the hijab. 1.00

01:14:57.200 I was having a discussion earlier on.

01:14:58.560 And then you see, again, the same idea from Five Pillars.

01:15:06.620 I do not see Britain as home.

01:15:08.140 It is the abode of infidels. 1.00

01:15:09.700 I am supportive of the Taliban. 1.00

01:15:11.860 Muslims in Britain should withdraw their children from school, especially the girls. 1.00

01:15:15.940 I won't play the whole clip, but please go ahead and watch it.

01:15:18.920 So what do you expect people to tell you when you say this?

01:15:25.620 Or is it that you think that you're speaking to a Muslim channel and nobody will know that you said it?

01:15:31.840 If you say this and then you object to people saying Islam is an enemy, do you think that you're suffering from some cognitive dissonance?

01:15:39.160 Is that a small possibility?

01:15:45.900 I think they feel like that their opponents are just so cowed.

01:15:50.120 Yes, precisely.

01:15:51.120 That they can do both.

01:15:52.900 Yes.

01:15:53.020 They can do both.

01:15:53.600 Exactly.

01:15:53.980 Exactly.

01:15:54.480 And it doesn't matter that they don't marry up.

01:15:58.380 Precisely.

01:15:58.520 No, it seems like people are beginning to actually say that they've noticed.

01:16:03.740 Yes.

01:16:04.820 But again, to be fair, there is some sensible coverage from some quarters.

01:16:10.720 Talk TV having a stance against mass immigration and concerns over multiculturalism is not far right or racist.

01:16:18.000 Yes, obviously.

01:16:19.060 Watch some of the Tommy Robinson rally on livestream and there is this collection of different people from different groups, obviously not British, obviously participating there happily.

01:16:31.720 And the message is that this is far right fascism and everybody is going to die if we listen to the people who were there on Saturday. 0.98

01:16:42.960 They're crazy. 0.98

01:16:44.300 Another bit of good news from stand up to racism. 0.99

01:16:47.460 I can't resist playing this.

01:16:51.320 And we've just gotten back from the counter demo against Tommy Robinson.

01:16:55.860 And I think before we go to the lessons, we really have to look at the reality of what this demo was.

01:17:04.020 And that is a pretty humiliating defeat.

01:17:08.420 If we look at the numbers alone, Tommy Robinson's side seems to have gotten around a million.

01:17:14.300 And on our side, lucky if it was 15,000, more likely 10,000.

01:17:20.340 So I think maybe if we just start there, you know, like, how did we get here?

01:17:30.500 How did you get here?

01:17:31.640 You lost all the arguments.

01:17:33.020 You lost all the arguments.

01:17:34.820 You kept on doubling down in the face of reality.

01:17:37.840 You insisted on denying everything true and good in life.

01:17:41.300 And aside from a small insane fringe that is getting increasingly violent, everybody else turned their backs on you.

01:17:48.720 That's how you got here, mate.

01:17:50.340 Anyway, shall we look at a couple of the comments?

01:17:54.440 Right.

01:17:54.680 So Don Browning sends us a cheerleader emoji.

01:17:58.020 Thank you.

01:17:58.700 Thanks very much.

01:17:59.580 Andrew Fay for $10 says, they say we're practicing cancel culture while they practice assassin culture.

01:18:12.020 We're not the same.

01:18:12.720 Also, I want to say that it's not an issue of cancel culture or violating free speech.

01:18:20.560 It's an issue of freedom of assembly.

01:18:22.480 If I know you are hanging out with someone I've heard is a total psychopath, and I tell you, mate, this guy is a total psychopath, and you start parting ways with them.

01:18:33.620 It's not, we're not disrespecting freedom of speech.

01:18:36.500 It's a different issue.

01:18:38.960 This is a crazy rhetoric that leftists have against the right now.

01:18:44.580 Dreadnut Logan says, communists are not for the working class.

01:18:48.360 They just want to be the nobles.

01:18:50.160 Just can't admit that to themselves.

01:18:51.920 Skull Kid says, England is becoming the same England from V for Vendetta in real time, both the good and bad.

01:19:00.760 However, it's important to remember that the people win.

01:19:04.160 A drunk changeling says, Indian people like eating cake, so really they kind of deserved colonialism. 1.00

01:19:11.600 Why do you hate cake so much?

01:19:14.540 Right.

01:19:14.720 The hapsification says, people forget Tommy wrote a book last year about Britain being demographically replaced, and Tommy has said Britain needs to be over 90% white British.

01:19:25.920 Yeah.

01:19:28.060 Yes.

01:19:28.740 When we do video comments, please read out this.

01:19:32.340 Where is it?

01:19:35.920 Let me see.

01:19:38.900 I'm trying to see the green announcement for video comment number one, Taylor.

01:19:44.720 We have your email, and a replacement is on its way to you.

01:19:48.860 Oh, okay.

01:19:51.480 Taylor, a replacement is on its way.

01:19:53.620 Thank you for your video comment.

01:19:59.360 Okay, let's go play our videos.

01:20:02.300 I think it's time to start advocating for legal removal of mainstream media companies.

01:20:11.140 It's one of the main thoughts of why Trevor Kirk is dead.

01:20:14.720 The lies that they have pushed is just overboard and divisive and no longer a repress of news.

01:20:27.160 It's now just a propaganda arm.

01:20:30.200 So they should be removed.

01:20:33.440 It was one of the things I said in my article, which very briefly is published on the Mallard, my roadmap, which got me deselected from reform.

01:20:42.420 It was one of the things in there, which I imagine was one of the things that the leadership at reform thought was beyond the power.

01:20:47.780 I said exactly that.

01:20:49.520 I said, yeah, end the BBC, end Channel 4 News.

01:20:54.460 I even said the male group.

01:20:56.040 I did a massive list.

01:20:57.340 I was even like the Times.

01:20:58.280 I said the whole male group.

01:20:59.580 That was too much for the likes of Lord Young, Toby Young.

01:21:02.760 Lots of people thought that was far too far.

01:21:04.240 That was far too authoritarian.

01:21:05.560 No, no, no.

01:21:06.520 No, no, I don't think so.

01:21:07.980 No, it's a matter of, it's becoming a matter of life and death.

01:21:10.340 It's becoming an existential threat.

01:21:12.980 So, yeah, call it authoritarian then if you want, fine.

01:21:15.940 But it's something that might need to happen.

01:21:20.120 It's a thing all throughout history in the modern, in modern times, going back a couple of hundred years, that you've got a free press, which is absolutely traitorous and subversive.

01:21:31.060 Yeah, that's something that modern, quote unquote, free societies have to deal with.

01:21:36.840 It's one of the monkeys on their back.

01:21:38.880 It's a real problem.

01:21:39.720 The media is a real problem.

01:21:41.380 And how to fix it in a good way is a real challenge.

01:21:47.920 I don't have an answer for you.

01:21:49.380 Well, just a touch of authoritarianism.

01:21:51.060 Now, we'll go in and we'll shut down Channel 4 News.

01:21:53.780 Yeah, you're trying to destroy our society.

01:21:57.380 Yeah.

01:21:57.860 So, the government is not going to let you do that anymore.

01:22:00.700 Yeah, call me a Sula.

01:22:02.000 Call me a tyrant.

01:22:03.060 Yeah, fine.

01:22:03.780 But I'm saving the nation.

01:22:05.560 It just takes some political balls, doesn't it? 0.71

01:22:08.020 Yes, it does. 0.97

01:22:08.220 Yes.

01:22:08.720 Churchill wouldn't think twice.

01:22:11.680 Lincoln wouldn't think twice.

01:22:13.180 No, they absolutely wouldn't.

01:22:14.400 No, that's something that's happening now.

01:22:17.240 Yeah.

01:22:18.380 Let's play the second video.

01:22:19.780 Ex-Muslims United.

01:22:44.460 All right, thanks, Russian.

01:22:48.800 Let's go to the next one.

01:22:49.720 So, with everything that was going on this week, I figured I'd send a little more wholesome content.

01:22:58.360 Thanks, Michael.

01:22:58.820 This is, as I've introduced before, this is Sakura.

01:23:01.700 She's a black female Shiba Inu. 1.00

01:23:05.840 More correctly, a Kokushomame Shiba.

01:23:09.020 She's basically a toy Shiba. 0.81

01:23:11.280 And this is Duke.

01:23:12.520 This is my son's dog.

01:23:13.640 And they're taking a little bit of a break from a very healthy early morning game of balls.

01:23:22.200 Game of?

01:23:24.820 Thanks, Michael.

01:23:25.620 I'm not quite sure, but it's a wholesome video.

01:23:28.520 So, with the death of Raina Zaluska and the death of Charlie Kirk, it's pretty apparent to me that evil does exist in this world.

01:23:39.760 And there are evil people out there.

01:23:41.520 And my question is this.

01:23:45.660 Is there a non-Christian way of confronting this evil? 0.98

01:23:49.480 And is there a way of confronting this evil ideology we call wokeism out of people?

01:23:58.820 Saving them from corruption?

01:24:02.680 Can I try to answer that?

01:24:04.380 It's a huge, huge one thing.

01:24:07.940 There is...

01:24:09.480 I won't speak in absolutes, because not everybody agrees with me.

01:24:14.860 But my own conversion was based on discovering the extent of evil that exists in this world.

01:24:24.820 And it led me to conclude that original sin is real and that the devil is real.

01:24:31.220 And when you see that, when I saw that, I had no choice other than to choose Christianity 0.90

01:24:42.740 and the love of Christ as the only possible antidote.

01:24:47.340 And my view has since solidified.

01:24:50.380 And it's become that unless you build on the rock that is Peter,

01:24:55.100 your ability to think clearly is going to be somewhat limited.

01:25:00.480 That's my personal answer.

01:25:02.980 I don't speak for anybody else.

01:25:04.480 I don't speak for the lotus eaters.

01:25:05.900 I speak only for myself.

01:25:07.820 But that's my personal answer to your question.

01:25:10.200 You have to choose the cross.

01:25:12.740 Yeah, I respect your answer.

01:25:14.400 For myself, I would say that, yeah, it's possible to know right and wrong

01:25:20.260 whilst being completely ignorant of the scriptures and the gospel.

01:25:25.700 You know, throughout history, there have been people that had no concept of those things,

01:25:30.180 like the ancient Greeks, Aristotle and Socrates or something,

01:25:32.960 that were still able to discern right from wrong.

01:25:35.660 But either way, he's right.

01:25:38.420 There is evil in the world.

01:25:39.800 Yes.

01:25:40.000 There is evil in the world.

01:25:41.600 And it is sort of your duty to confront it and battle it if you can.

01:25:48.460 If you've got anything in the tank, whatever you've got to do, whatever it takes, whatever works for you.

01:25:54.360 So there are many questions.

01:25:56.760 That's not just a question of what to do about evil.

01:25:59.160 It's what to do in what context.

01:26:01.940 So you could say that there's one question whether you can turn evil people good.

01:26:06.660 I think there is a percentage of people you can't turn good.

01:26:10.740 It's just, I don't know, I don't see how.

01:26:12.660 And there is also the question of what you do in a society.

01:26:17.840 I did a video last week on the daily about approaches to punishment.

01:26:23.240 I think you need to be very strict in enforcing the law in a realistic fashion and communicate across the board that there will be consequences rather than play the ultra sentimental leftist card where you constantly try to give excuses for the most heinous of crimes.

01:26:43.840 But this is just actually a really good question.

01:26:47.460 We should definitely have a huge discussion about it.

01:26:50.140 We can't do it now.

01:26:51.580 Me and Ferris have talked about having a conversation about exactly that, really.

01:26:54.720 I think that would be good.

01:26:56.120 I'm up for it.

01:26:56.900 I don't really enjoy it.

01:26:58.000 I enjoy doing that.

01:26:59.180 Let's go to the next one.

01:27:01.140 As a classical liberal, it hurts me to say this, but Charlie Kirk's murder has convinced me that we need to stop being so absolute about rights.

01:27:06.740 It's clearly not feasible to have this political freedom, and we have to consider the safety of innocent people.

01:27:10.540 So far, every political assassination in the USA and the most recent murder and attempted murders of political figures has one factor in common, and it's for this reason that we need common sense restrictions on leftists.

01:27:20.500 I'm not saying ban them.

01:27:21.500 No one is coming for your leftists, but it's clear that they pose a heightened risk to life and limb, and there's no reason for them to be in schools, on university campuses, or at public events, and no one needs to own a high-capacity leftist gathering.

01:27:34.720 Very good video comment.

01:27:36.560 Let's go to the next one.

01:27:37.320 Very good.

01:27:37.780 In the 19th century, they're often called anarchists.

01:27:41.820 Yes.

01:27:43.340 Perfect idea, gentlemen.

01:27:45.640 This is how we invade Britain. 0.97

01:27:50.440 Tell the general to order 1,000 rubber dinghy boats on Amazon next day delivery.

01:27:55.400 This is how we invade the British and win the war. 0.99

01:27:58.620 Sir, the Germans are coming. 1.00

01:28:02.780 Hold your fire, men.

01:28:04.080 Those are doctors and engineers.

01:28:05.420 Why aren't they shooting at us? 1.00

01:28:08.660 The bloody fools must think we are doctors and engineers. 1.00

01:28:11.940 The plan worked. 1.00

01:28:12.980 Oh! 0.60

01:28:13.300 Oh! 0.60

01:28:13.560 Was that all AI generated?

01:28:18.600 Was that a skit off TV or something?

01:28:20.700 That was good.

01:28:21.980 All right.

01:28:22.400 All right.

01:28:22.900 Let's go to our comments now and read some, because also there's the show by for us at 3 p.m.

01:28:30.880 Do join.

01:28:31.580 Right.

01:28:32.860 So, Blandin Broomfield says, interviewed with his high school classmates, show that he had begun to be radicalized in the 10th grade.

01:28:42.700 Okay.

01:28:43.880 Interesting.

01:28:44.620 I'll check it out.

01:28:45.220 I've not heard that before, but okay.

01:28:46.200 Anonymy says, Utah is not the right-wing utopia people think it is.

01:28:50.480 It's suffering from radical leftism in certain places, like everywhere else, such as Salt Lake City.

01:28:56.920 Because Utah is so conservative in certain locations, no, certain locations become radically opposite.

01:29:02.960 I disagree that he was radicalized in university.

01:29:05.820 He was already radicalized in high school and pushed further by being terminally online.

01:29:11.740 Discord is very important here, as a number of servers will have groomers.

01:29:15.240 I mean, we did mention social media when we spoke about radicalization.

01:29:24.360 And also, it's highly unlikely that university played zero part when he's 22 years old.

01:29:31.820 Chance from Canada says, obviously, more than one person knew about this.

01:29:36.560 There were multiple patsies in the crowd.

01:29:39.560 Old man to identify one.

01:29:41.160 Neighbors report suspicious out-of-state license plates convening at the household.

01:29:47.300 Leftists on X posting something big happening to Charlie tomorrow, the day before.

01:29:52.400 Yeah.

01:29:52.760 Sophie Liv says, it's wild to think about.

01:29:55.140 All this Trump and his followers are Nazis rhetoric has now gone on for over nine years.

01:29:59.880 Yes.

01:30:00.120 This young man is 22, so it has been his life since he was 13.

01:30:04.540 For all of his formative years, it's all he has known.

01:30:09.700 And so many others we currently see on TikTok and his age group.

01:30:13.420 The radicalization among young people is dangerous and very tragic.

01:30:17.260 Right, so the right, Omar Awad says, the right organizes slowly, but when it acts, will be laser-focused and effective.

01:30:26.220 The worry isn't that Trump will act heavy-handed, but that the right will act without his moderating influence.

01:30:32.120 I believe Larry Correa coined the expression, the left has a dial, the right has a switch.

01:30:38.700 The finding out part of the equation will be swift, brutal, and merciless.

01:30:42.060 Someone online says they choose not to take responsibility because they have to be the victims.

01:30:48.320 That's what their whole thing is based on.

01:30:50.380 Therefore, anything they do is not their fault.

01:30:52.580 That's also one of the reasons why I just can't see how to treat them as equals.

01:30:56.880 Because when I want to see equal people treat someone as equal, I need to treat them as responsible human beings

01:31:03.760 rather than someone who is constantly making excuses for themselves and blaming other people.

01:31:09.280 I just can't.

01:31:10.560 They remind me of children screaming, but dad, this is unfair.

01:31:13.900 Yeah.

01:31:14.480 Michael Dribelby says, the difference between Charlie and the left.

01:31:18.260 Charlie was prepared to have a dialogue and discuss actual ideas.

01:31:22.520 Bad news for the left, he was the moderate voice.

01:31:24.840 Now that it's gone, they have galvanized the right.

01:31:28.120 And do you want me to read comments from yours?

01:31:31.560 I could read them, whatever you want.

01:31:33.200 Let me see.

01:31:37.040 From Kevin Fox.

01:31:38.720 Beau, how can you say AOC is not well read?

01:31:41.700 She has memorized all four cocktail menus and all the specials for the week.

01:31:47.240 I don't want to make fun of the working class for working, as a general rule. 0.99

01:31:54.920 It's funny, she is a dumbass, but let's not make fun of her for that part. 0.98

01:32:00.380 She suffers from malapropisms when you get a word wrong. 1.00

01:32:04.900 Yes.

01:32:05.200 You say the wrong word.

01:32:06.960 Yes, yes.

01:32:07.660 How convenient.

01:32:11.540 Then Scotty of Swindon.

01:32:14.280 The thing I hate about the left is how they act outraged for you doing anything in response to their aggression.

01:32:20.000 Yes.

01:32:20.980 You fight or you die is not an extreme statement when we have, within the last couple of weeks,

01:32:26.100 a normal man was murdered in public for his moderate opinions.

01:32:29.400 And these demons celebrated it and claimed that more people should do the same to more people who are themselves moderate.

01:32:35.080 And that's not just what we have the last weeks.

01:32:38.400 We had Irina Zarutska, we had the Christian Assyrian who was murdered while he was live streaming in Paris.

01:32:44.720 Yes.

01:32:45.240 We had a couple that was murdered after being tortured five hours by someone who was released for six times.

01:32:55.360 It's not just that.

01:32:57.680 Yeah.

01:32:58.640 It's a hellish week.

01:33:00.380 Monkey Smoke says,

01:33:01.620 I carried my cardboard sign with foot-sized letters spelling Charlie Kirk on Saturday.

01:33:07.300 Charlie Kirk made me a better person and his effect on my son is joyous for me.

01:33:12.040 I love Charlie Kirk always.

01:33:13.780 I will carry my sign at every rally in London from now on.

01:33:16.880 May God bless everyone.

01:33:17.940 May God bless you.

01:33:18.680 Yes.

01:33:19.280 He did make people better because of his commitment to God.

01:33:23.080 Arizona Desert Rat says,

01:33:25.560 The number of unarmed black men getting shot per year is more like five to eight.

01:33:32.740 In the U.S., if a knife or car is being used in an attempt to hurt someone, it's considered a weapon.

01:33:38.260 No, when the Washington Post did their data from where I got the 10 to 20,

01:33:42.440 they included cars as being unarmed and they included a weapon next to you as not being in your arm.

01:33:55.900 You know, I think that's it from today.

01:34:00.140 We're a little bit over time.

01:34:01.400 Yeah.

01:34:01.900 Now we will see you again in 25 minutes.

01:34:04.400 So, we have reached the end of our podcast.

01:34:09.240 Thank you very much.

01:34:10.320 Do join in for 3 p.m. to watch Firas's Real Politiques,

01:34:14.680 where he will be talking about how civil wars can be averted.

01:34:20.060 Hopefully.

01:34:20.940 Hopefully.

01:34:22.420 See you tomorrow at 1 p.m.

01:34:23.900 Goodbye.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 15, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1252

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