The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1255

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eaters episode 1255. I'm your host Harry,

00:00:07.620 joined today by Beau and Firaz. And today we're going to be talking about the cancellation of

00:00:13.780 Jimmy Kimmel and I think also Stephen Colbert. We'll mention him. We're mentioning him. Either

00:00:18.840 way, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys. I'll be talking about Operation Scatter and I

00:00:24.120 will also be reporting on a situation that is currently ongoing and developing. So by the time

00:00:29.020 we actually get to my reporting of it, things might have carried on since then. There might

00:00:33.880 be more information that I'm not aware of. I'll try and keep on top of it as I'm going through

00:00:38.200 these segments. But you know how fast things can move right now. And I'm going to be talking about

00:00:43.000 Operation Scatter and the HMOs and the closing of migrant hotels actually being something of a

00:00:48.760 monkey's paw. And Firaz is going to close us out speaking about the cost of backing Israel. So

00:00:53.800 you've chosen a nice, safe, simple, easy subject for us to talk about. Yes. This afternoon. So

00:01:00.340 thank you very much for that. And yeah, I'll let you know, Samson, if anything happens, I'll try and

00:01:07.420 keep one eye on reports coming from apping at the moment just to see if anything, if there are any new

00:01:14.480 developments. With that, shall we get into Jimmy Kimmel? Okay. Have you heard? Have you seen about

00:01:20.500 this? Mr. Jimmy Kimmel has been cancelled. Oh, no. As in actually his show has been cancelled? Yeah,

00:01:26.900 just his show. Yes. Not the man actually cancelled off the earth. No, no, no, no. Just his show has

00:01:34.560 been cancelled. Happened pretty quick. Sometimes that can just happen. The powers that be, I think it was

00:01:42.080 ABC just decided, nope, we're going to end that. So, uh, well, let's watch this short, which covers

00:01:51.120 it. ABC telling NBC News that they will be taking Jimmy Kimmel's popular late night show off of the

00:01:56.940 air indefinitely after comments the late night host made earlier this week about Charlie Kirk's

00:02:02.740 assassination and the motives of the man accused of killing him. The MAGA gang desperately trying to

00:02:08.900 characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing

00:02:13.720 everything they can to score political points from it. Now, this also comes just hours after FCC

00:02:20.000 chairman Brendan Carr suggested that the FCC could take action against Disney and ABC for Kimmel's

00:02:27.680 comments. And it also comes after Nextar Media Group announced in a statement that their affiliates

00:02:33.760 would not be airing the show saying that they, quote, strongly object to recent comments made by

00:02:39.680 Mr. Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk. Now, NBC News, we've reached out to Kimmel for comment

00:02:44.920 and we have not yet heard back. Surprise. Okay. So that happened. A bit of a bit of a TMZ segment for me. I don't

00:02:53.880 you, I usually prefer things with a touch more gravitas, but it's in the news today. It's in the news cycle.

00:02:59.280 Let's talk about it.

00:03:00.840 Kind of. Sometimes.

00:03:03.200 Some gravitas or, or else just space.

00:03:05.960 Oh yeah. Or that. Yeah. Can you get any more gravitas than the wonder of the cosmos?

00:03:11.680 Oh.

00:03:13.040 He's going to start reading out his poetry in a minute.

00:03:16.140 Just long quotes of Carl Sagan. Just a 25 minute long Carl Sagan quote fest. I'd actually like that. I'd watch that.

00:03:25.140 I'm sure there are compilations on YouTube.

00:03:27.060 And of course, a lot of people are just gloating. Heaven forbid we would, we would gloat.

00:03:34.420 Na, na, na, na. Na, na, na, na. Hey, goodbye.

00:03:43.340 So I like, I like Jeremy Hambly at the quartering.

00:03:46.580 Right.

00:03:47.460 So yeah, there is a lot of gloating.

00:03:49.140 It's a rather menacing screenshot.

00:03:50.660 Yeah, it is actually. Yeah, that's terrible.

00:03:52.340 That's terrifying.

00:03:54.200 Yeah. That's the look he gives you.

00:03:56.180 No, no, no, no.

00:03:59.660 So yeah, I mean, I always think it is shitty when people gloat when something, you know, when someone on the right goes down for whatever reason.

00:04:08.660 Right.

00:04:09.020 Or gets you, it's always annoying when the left gloat.

00:04:11.980 But also, I have been known to do it a little bit from time to time.

00:04:17.920 We're all human.

00:04:18.740 Yeah, we're all human.

00:04:19.500 In this case, because it's so sort of inconsequential, the career of Jimmy Kimmel, who's already a million millionaire.

00:04:26.920 And the regime propagandist.

00:04:28.520 Yeah.

00:04:28.620 For the past five, six years, he was one of the people pushing the COVID lockdown narratives.

00:04:33.940 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:04:34.480 Which ruined who knows how many people's lives.

00:04:37.040 Yeah, no.

00:04:37.400 And I think pretty much everything else that was supported by, you know, Biden or Obama, he was always their guy.

00:04:44.900 I wonder what specials Jimmy Kimmel did on the poor death of George Floyd.

00:04:49.980 I'm sure he was also spreading misinformation during those, just different times.

00:04:54.020 Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

00:04:55.220 Oh, yeah, an establishment shill, no doubt about that.

00:04:57.540 But it does seem like his ratings, according to this one website anyway, that his ratings, even over the last, like, six months or a year or so, is...

00:05:06.960 Complete free fall.

00:05:08.060 That's almost halved.

00:05:08.960 Kind of tanked.

00:05:09.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:10.600 Almost halved.

00:05:11.820 The thing is, you know, we're in the game of getting clicks and getting numbers and all that sort of thing.

00:05:16.260 If you're even stagnant, that's pretty bad.

00:05:19.300 Yeah.

00:05:19.460 You're like, that's a mortal wound if you're stagnant.

00:05:22.740 Yes.

00:05:22.980 If you're going down, you're sort of already dead, really.

00:05:27.120 It's not like this year has been bereft of news.

00:05:30.600 I mean, we're looking from February of this year, which is when Trump stepped into his second administration.

00:05:36.000 So there's been plenty that has been happening since then.

00:05:39.460 Could it be simply that people aren't interested in what he has to say on the matter?

00:05:43.480 I think so.

00:05:44.280 I think that is the case.

00:05:45.140 I mean, look, at the beginning of the year, he's still pulling in close to two mil, which in one way is really good numbers.

00:05:52.220 In another way, if you're sort of all over real television and pushed and you've got a $50 million budget a year and stuff, that's actually not all that good.

00:06:01.540 And it's down to sort of nearly halved.

00:06:03.600 Yes.

00:06:03.860 So you can imagine that the powers that be would be looking at his show anyway.

00:06:09.980 Yes.

00:06:10.720 And being like, has it run its course?

00:06:12.900 Yeah.

00:06:13.080 Because if he was a real cash cow, if he was putting in 20, 25 million plus every show and growing, then I doubt, I really doubt they probably would have just axed him like that.

00:06:24.160 But, yeah.

00:06:26.040 I think the interesting bit for me is the FCC talking about looking into what was being said.

00:06:33.080 And I think what this confirms is something that a lot of people on the right need to wake up to.

00:06:37.280 Post-liberalism is here, guys.

00:06:39.520 The liberal order where, oh, it's the free marketplace of ideas and all of that.

00:06:45.160 Look, we tried.

00:06:46.340 It was the left who reneged on that agreement.

00:06:49.440 It was the left who wanted to debank people.

00:06:52.140 It was the left who wanted to arrest people for things that they say.

00:06:55.720 It's still happening here in Britain.

00:06:57.280 It's still happening here constantly.

00:06:59.260 It's all over Europe.

00:07:01.060 They're trying to shut down the AFD.

00:07:02.860 They're trying to ban Marine Le Pen from running.

00:07:05.140 So liberalism as an idea has run its course and it has died.

00:07:08.960 And now that it has died, when the right gets into power, it has no choice but to fight using the tactics that were developed by the left.

00:07:20.120 Because this is going to be the only way in which it can govern.

00:07:23.480 So for me, the theme isn't Jimmy Kimmel, you know, who's he anyway?

00:07:30.040 The theme is something more significant, which is, all right, guys, we agree to your rules and we will engage in battle accordingly.

00:07:39.960 That, for me, is what's interesting.

00:07:41.860 Yeah, I mean, if it was entirely up to me, I wouldn't do that as much.

00:07:46.780 Like, for example, when the left would dox people and stuff, I'm against that.

00:07:52.300 And if and when the right does it, I still find it distasteful in the same way.

00:07:57.500 I feel like we could be better than that, if possible.

00:08:01.120 You know, the argument of you thought it was really bad when loads of right-leaning or conservative people were cancelled.

00:08:09.260 So why are you cheering when it happens to the other side?

00:08:11.620 Yeah, it's actually a fair point in my mind.

00:08:13.700 Yes.

00:08:13.840 But also, the point you just made is also actually still valid, even though I may find it a bit distasteful.

00:08:22.120 It's actually still valid.

00:08:23.160 It is.

00:08:23.720 Also, to cut through a little bit, I don't think that these are at all entirely comparable.

00:08:28.120 As Stelios and I were discussing yesterday, 10 years ago, what were people getting cancelled for?

00:08:33.280 In 2017, what was James Damore fired from his job at Google for?

00:08:36.740 Yes.

00:08:37.160 Writing up a document that said men and women are having different achievements and rate of achievement

00:08:44.380 because of biological differences between men and women.

00:08:47.520 Yes.

00:08:47.780 Pointing out the obvious, which has been acknowledged for decades before modern feminism came around. 1.00

00:08:53.680 What is Jimmy Kimmel and others like him, what are they getting cancelled, quote-unquote, for?

00:09:01.060 Well, they're getting cancelled for encouraging political violence, and in Jimmy Kimmel's case here,

00:09:06.200 encouraging a misinformation narrative that, again, could get more people killed.

00:09:11.800 This is a very, very volatile situation.

00:09:15.240 Because as far as I'm concerned, yeah, the things that Jimmy Kimmel said weren't too bad

00:09:18.940 after the initial lies that he began spreading.

00:09:22.400 When he played that clip of Donald Trump having a very unusual reaction to Charlie Kirk's death,

00:09:29.180 basically dismissing it and being like, oh, we're building a new east wing of wherever I am right now.

00:09:34.080 That was unusual, and that's worth pointing out.

00:09:36.780 But he loaded it, he preloaded it by saying, oh, this guy who did it is MAGA.

00:09:42.640 That's a lie, and this is not the time for lies.

00:09:46.240 I think it's an absolutely fair point to draw attention to why you got, quote-unquote, cancelled.

00:09:52.600 Yeah, what you actually did.

00:09:53.940 Yeah, for example, just one little anecdote.

00:09:55.640 There was some people in reform, when I was still in reform,

00:09:58.360 and they got sort of deselected or ostracised for quite literally just liking a Tommy tweet or something,

00:10:04.860 or leaving a reply under a Tommy tweet saying, yeah, or something.

00:10:08.180 That was it.

00:10:08.940 Right.

00:10:09.180 So very, very, very, very minimal.

00:10:10.720 You got ousted for saying, okay, here's our policies, here's how we would practically do them.

00:10:16.360 Yeah.

00:10:16.860 And apparently Richard Tice was horrified at the idea, well, no, no, no, Bo, we're not supposed to actually do them.

00:10:22.400 God, no, God forbid we do anything like that.

00:10:25.380 Yeah.

00:10:26.060 Well, but I think, you know, in a way, Harry, you're sort of, we are in agreement in the sense that

00:10:30.780 we're no longer pretending that everything is neutral and everything is of equal value.

00:10:37.000 We are now of the view that, yes, there's right and there's wrong.

00:10:40.120 There is truth and there's lies. 0.99

00:10:42.520 And we are going to be intolerant of you lying, but not by killing you and not by arresting you, 0.99

00:10:50.440 just by saying, well, you can't be in this position if you're that dishonest or that hateful 0.99

00:10:56.680 or wishing death on people who disagree with you politically.

00:11:02.140 So it's a sort of sorting, it's an end of neutrality.

00:11:06.020 And it's the end of the idea that everything is neutral and everything's of equal value.

00:11:09.320 We just have a disagreement of opinions.

00:11:11.840 That's what we're seeing now.

00:11:13.200 And that is a good thing.

00:11:14.540 And that's a necessary thing.

00:11:16.400 Absolutely.

00:11:17.660 This is how politics should be fought if we are men of principle.

00:11:21.500 So I say it matters what was actually done.

00:11:24.840 So in the case of Jimmy Kimmel saying that the shooter, Tyler Robinson, no relation, I understand.

00:11:31.060 No, no, no, no relation.

00:11:32.600 Another spooky thing, we share a middle name, James.

00:11:35.780 Oh, really?

00:11:36.320 Oh.

00:11:36.540 Still no relation.

00:11:39.260 And if there is a relation, his relation diverged from mine, probably with the Mayflower.

00:11:45.020 Can you account for your whereabouts on the time?

00:11:49.440 So in this case, Jimmy Kimmel did say something that is just sort of factually wrong.

00:11:55.900 You know, that this guy is MAGA.

00:11:58.140 And he probably is.

00:11:59.480 Right.

00:12:00.360 So it's factually wrong.

00:12:01.260 So someone mentioned in the office, and I think, again, they're not really parallels in any way, but still it's worth some sort of reference.

00:12:07.840 What happened to Alex Jones, where he said just the factually wrong thing about Sandy Hook.

00:12:13.540 Right.

00:12:14.020 And it got taken to court and fined in whatever way.

00:12:18.600 A billion dollars or two billion dollars?

00:12:20.480 I think you're right.

00:12:21.080 Two billion.

00:12:21.720 I thought it was two billion dollars.

00:12:23.500 Just an insane number.

00:12:24.480 Crazy.

00:12:26.160 Will that happen to Kimmel?

00:12:28.320 No.

00:12:28.640 No.

00:12:29.160 And it's not what we're calling for.

00:12:30.900 No, no.

00:12:31.820 But if you're constantly spending your time lying, maybe you shouldn't be on a mainstream television.

00:12:37.380 That's a fair argument.

00:12:39.240 Next we need to see Goodall go.

00:12:41.040 Because he's not just lying.

00:12:42.620 Lewis Goodall on LBC has been, or was immediately after, consistently coming up with narrative spins for why Charlie Kirk, you know, I'm not going to say it outright, but was heavily implying that this was the...

00:12:58.520 Fair comeuppance.

00:12:59.200 Yeah, fair comeuppance to the hateful rhetoric that he had been spreading by debating college kids.

00:13:06.440 Yeah.

00:13:06.780 It's the argument, Stelio said it the other day, look what you made me do.

00:13:10.540 Yes. 0.97

00:13:10.860 If that woman hadn't, if that woman hadn't have been dressed so provocatively, she wouldn't have got raped. 1.00

00:13:15.760 Yes. 0.96

00:13:15.940 I think if you hadn't said what you'd said, you'd still be alive today.

00:13:19.480 Yeah.

00:13:19.580 That sort of argument.

00:13:20.400 Yeah. 0.99

00:13:20.540 Gross.

00:13:20.720 So, okay, on the sort of left, lefty-leaning, centrist stuff, there's all sorts of takes about right-wing cancel culture.

00:13:30.580 Uh, unheard, uh, the right-wing cancel culture and free speech, uh, what was it even, Mumsnet, Mumsnet, getting involved.

00:13:42.460 Oh, God.

00:13:42.960 Right-wing cancel culture's at it again. 0.79

00:13:44.900 Um, yeah, all sorts of example of right-wing cancel culture. 0.84

00:13:50.320 The Young Turks, right-wingers cancelling Americans en masse.

00:13:54.460 Well, well, here's this.

00:13:56.740 Here's, here's the example.

00:13:58.200 Here's the thought experiment, right?

00:14:00.140 Right, so immediately after the murder of Charlie Kirk, who was murdered for a difference of opinion, for espousing what are essentially mainstream Christian views on most subjects, he held the mainstream Christian view of abortion, of whether you can be a man or a woman, and a number of other subjects.

00:14:21.460 And outside of that, when it came to race relations, he was going off of what can be factually verified.

00:14:26.920 Exactly.

00:14:27.760 It's all common sense stuff.

00:14:31.000 He's murdered, and these creatures come out of their, out of the woodwork to celebrate, to dance, to shout from the rooftops about how happy they are about it, and how much they want to see it happen to other people.

00:14:45.120 Now, consider that you're perhaps from a conservative or even centrist family.

00:14:50.460 Maybe you share some of those same values that Charlie Kirk held, mainstream, normal Christian values.

00:14:56.920 If those people are working in healthcare, do you want them administering drugs to you?

00:15:02.480 If they're working in childcare, do you want them near your children?

00:15:07.500 If they're working in education, do you want those people educating your children?

00:15:12.700 Do you even want them serving or delivering your food?

00:15:17.100 Because if they know anything about you, you now know that they have a murderous impulse, a hateful animus towards you.

00:15:26.760 So I think it's only fair to say, they have revealed their character to me.

00:15:30.760 They should not be in a position where they could harm me or my loved ones.

00:15:34.740 Exactly.

00:15:35.100 I don't think any of us would shoot a Jimmy Kimmel or celebrate the shooting of a Jimmy Kimmel.

00:15:42.620 We look at him with disdain.

00:15:44.580 I'm glad that he no longer is being listened to.

00:15:47.300 I don't know who listened to him in the first place.

00:15:48.840 I feel bad for them as well for having listened to him.

00:15:52.280 But there's a real difference in values and in temperament.

00:15:56.120 One side is saying, look, you're wrong.

00:15:59.160 I'm adhering to the values that built Western civilization and you came up with your ideas in the last five seconds in civilizational time and are trying to impose them on me. 1.00

00:16:08.440 And the other guy is saying, well, you're a Nazi and you deserve to die. 1.00

00:16:12.400 Okay. 1.00

00:16:14.400 That's not an even.

00:16:17.080 Yeah.

00:16:17.560 All right.

00:16:18.140 Yeah.

00:16:18.400 I loathe Jimmy Kimmel.

00:16:20.420 I think of him as an ideological, a political enemy.

00:16:25.540 But I wouldn't even flick the end of his nose.

00:16:28.220 I wouldn't even stand on the back of his shoe while he's walking along.

00:16:31.120 So his heel came out.

00:16:32.140 I wouldn't do anything to him.

00:16:33.520 I wouldn't even do.

00:16:34.800 Right.

00:16:35.100 I wouldn't even give him a noogie.

00:16:36.660 Yeah.

00:16:37.160 Yeah.

00:16:37.620 Yeah.

00:16:38.320 I wouldn't even give him a Chinese burn. 0.96

00:16:40.400 I wouldn't even do that.

00:16:41.540 So, okay.

00:16:42.560 There is a very real difference there.

00:16:44.240 Absolutely.

00:16:45.080 I mean, get a load of this.

00:16:46.440 I mean, this is like a year old or so.

00:16:48.100 This is a classic right here.

00:16:49.940 Reflections on right wing council culture. 1.00

00:16:51.820 The terrifying, the justifying censoriousness because the left started it is dumb. 0.99

00:16:57.980 It's also untrue. 0.97

00:16:58.940 McCarthy, McCarthyism, the spectre of McCarthyism.

00:17:02.360 It's a classic thing leftists like to do to think, to try and argue that history starts

00:17:06.680 at a certain point.

00:17:07.860 Yes.

00:17:08.160 That they choose to make an argument.

00:17:10.320 And even for a time as well, centre-right figures were talking about McCarthy and using

00:17:15.880 McCarthyism in that same way that the left do.

00:17:19.340 But the problem with McCarthy is as soon as you take even a cursory glance at what he was

00:17:23.240 doing, one, he was right.

00:17:25.760 Exactly.

00:17:26.820 Obviously right.

00:17:28.080 As you've pointed out here that he did nothing wrong.

00:17:30.400 Two, it's exactly because he was right that they killed him for it.

00:17:34.900 Well, you think he was killed?

00:17:39.640 This is a side thing.

00:17:40.760 I think it's, I think the circumstances of his death coming so quickly after he was taken

00:17:45.140 off of all of these committees.

00:17:46.660 Oh, I thought he drunk himself to death.

00:17:48.620 Anyway, let's not worry about that.

00:17:50.140 I think it's very suspicious.

00:17:51.620 Okay.

00:17:52.200 Similar to, similar to Patton.

00:17:54.120 And as if like history started with McCarthy and he did it out of nowhere.

00:17:58.740 It wasn't a response to Stalinism.

00:18:01.080 No.

00:18:01.820 Okay.

00:18:02.740 Okay, Jacob.

00:18:03.520 Yeah, sure.

00:18:05.100 I think cancelling people because they're literal traitors might be a good idea.

00:18:10.320 Yeah.

00:18:11.060 And it's not like the administration of the US government at the time wasn't full of

00:18:15.680 communist spies or anything.

00:18:17.260 It's not like FDR was literally being advised by a series of Soviet spies, which we found

00:18:22.760 out in the Venona decrypts when they were released in the 90s.

00:18:26.180 Yeah, I mentioned, look, the Venona project.

00:18:28.840 Yeah.

00:18:29.540 BB Dade's got all the receipts right there in this article.

00:18:32.480 That's a guy you should be listening to.

00:18:33.800 Only short and linked.

00:18:34.660 Yeah.

00:18:35.420 Your reading pleasure.

00:18:36.860 Yeah.

00:18:37.960 So, I mean, what was the next thing I was saying?

00:18:41.760 Oh, yeah.

00:18:42.160 Jimmy Kimmel.

00:18:43.380 Because some on the left, like Owen Jones, have tried to argue or claim that cancel culture

00:18:47.420 isn't a thing.

00:18:48.480 It's not real.

00:18:49.400 That's just made up.

00:18:50.480 The right moaning about the left cancelling them.

00:18:52.820 It isn't real.

00:18:54.220 But, of course, it is.

00:18:57.020 Oh, there's Carl Benjamin telling this guy to shut up, basically.

00:19:03.880 If anyone's only listening, a guy saying, did platforming Trump really, really worked?

00:19:08.520 And the fact that big tech waited for him to lose power to do it must never be forgotten.

00:19:14.580 Yeah.

00:19:15.000 Okay.

00:19:15.200 This is from a guy accusing everybody to the right of Tony Blair of being a fascist.

00:19:19.000 Thank you.

00:19:19.340 Yeah.

00:19:19.780 Right.

00:19:20.580 I mean, Owen Jones absolutely, personally, not just here.

00:19:26.160 I was going to talk about all leftists, but Owen Jones himself, personally.

00:19:29.940 But then engaging in cancel culture.

00:19:32.540 I mean, can we get up that one?

00:19:35.800 Oh, yeah.

00:19:36.100 Here's him just asking for someone to get fired.

00:19:39.320 By the end of the day.

00:19:40.140 Not just fired.

00:19:40.800 Yeah.

00:19:41.140 By the end of the day.

00:19:42.060 By the end of the day.

00:19:42.540 Immediately.

00:19:43.120 But also, cancel culture isn't real, according to Jones.

00:19:45.660 Yeah.

00:19:46.080 Also, it's not real.

00:19:47.380 And the argument seems to be, when people sort of put him up on it, it's like, well,

00:19:50.380 they're not actually cancelled.

00:19:52.420 They're not actually dead in a ditch.

00:19:54.800 So, they're not cancelled.

00:19:56.420 Yeah.

00:19:56.660 And that would be the old-school commie way of cancelling them, I suppose.

00:20:00.460 Yeah.

00:20:00.740 That was literally it.

00:20:02.040 Yes, exactly.

00:20:03.580 Dank doing a funny one.

00:20:06.020 Saying, logging on to Twitter to see Owen Jones getting cancelled after years of cancelling

00:20:09.320 people himself and then saying cancel culture doesn't exist.

00:20:11.920 Yeah.

00:20:12.720 Yeah, things don't really have to make sense, do they?

00:20:15.560 Particularly.

00:20:16.320 Oh, yeah.

00:20:16.500 So, the point is, loads.

00:20:17.940 We have memories.

00:20:19.080 We remember loads of people getting, quote-unquote, cancelled.

00:20:23.300 Yep.

00:20:23.500 But, like, Gina Carano is probably one of the great ones.

00:20:26.700 I think she recently settled in court for loads of money off of Disney. 0.94

00:20:29.860 The Gina Carano one.

00:20:30.820 I wish she'd taken that case all the way to the bitter end.

00:20:33.500 Yeah.

00:20:34.020 I wish she hadn't settled.

00:20:35.000 But, okay. 0.74

00:20:35.420 That one was particularly ridiculous because they accused her of anti-Semitism, I believe,

00:20:40.300 even though the example that she was giving was, like, arguing against that. 0.94

00:20:46.460 It was using the classic, like, Nazis bad kind of arguments.

00:20:51.860 But they accused her of anti-Semitism for it.

00:20:54.140 So, as far as I'm concerned, Gina Carano, they just wanted her off.

00:20:57.660 Yeah.

00:20:57.780 They just wanted rid of her. 0.94

00:20:58.940 And they used any excuse.

00:21:00.340 And that's how these people operated.

00:21:01.860 If they had nothing on you, they'd just accuse you of something anyway.

00:21:05.540 Anyway, I mean, the left has set clear rules whereby them winning means that people on the

00:21:14.900 right cannot be employed.

00:21:16.780 People on the right cannot get an income or work for any sort of major corporate or media

00:21:23.060 or university or what have you.

00:21:25.960 And now they're complaining that the rules that they advocated are coming back for them.

00:21:31.880 Okay. 0.98

00:21:32.820 It sounds a bit hypocritical and weak. 0.95

00:21:35.820 I forgot about that one. 0.79

00:21:36.640 Scott Cawthon, the guy who made Five Nights at Freddy's, basically a children's series,

00:21:42.660 got cancelled because he was a Christian who donated to Republicans and voted Trump.

00:21:47.660 Well, that's the thing.

00:21:48.560 If they realise that you're a Republican...

00:21:51.240 He'd literally done nothing other than just be a Republican, a basic Christian Republican. 0.67

00:21:57.740 I mean, quick ones off the top of my head.

00:21:59.320 I've got Chris Pratt, Dean Cain, Rob Schneider, Kevin Sorbo, James Woods, John Voight.

00:22:05.480 And these are just Hollywood types as well, TV, movie type people.

00:22:09.300 But the thing is, the most pernicious thing is that quite often it was just normal people.

00:22:13.680 Yeah.

00:22:13.900 Right?

00:22:14.380 Exactly.

00:22:14.980 Someone goes on Twitter or something and posts a little clip.

00:22:17.520 And they're just, they're a complete nobody, a complete working class, non-entity. 1.00

00:22:22.560 And I don't mean that in a pejorative way.

00:22:24.540 They've got like 10 followers and they work in a convenience store.

00:22:29.260 But they make a little video saying, go Trump or something.

00:22:32.120 And they get dogpiled and fired.

00:22:35.500 That happened loads.

00:22:37.120 They managed to fire a police officer because he, I think, donated $25 to the Kyle Rittenhouse Defense Fund.

00:22:46.980 Right.

00:22:47.160 Like they, that was all, he didn't say anything, he didn't do anything.

00:22:51.000 In Britain, police officers are being removed from the force because they sent WhatsApp messages

00:22:56.800 that were deemed insensitive or sexist or racist.

00:23:00.640 There's no target too small for them.

00:23:02.660 Exactly.

00:23:03.320 Exactly.

00:23:04.240 So now complaining about this when Jimmy Kimmel gets, gets, gets the boot, like, really?

00:23:10.500 Right.

00:23:11.060 Yeah.

00:23:11.560 Yeah.

00:23:12.320 It's just despicable.

00:23:13.800 Also, it doesn't happen.

00:23:15.040 It doesn't exist though.

00:23:15.920 It comes to the culture.

00:23:16.540 It doesn't exist.

00:23:17.340 But it shows the kind of morality that they have.

00:23:19.540 It shows the morality whereby everything that they do is good and everything that the

00:23:22.920 other side does is bad.

00:23:24.060 And it shows the morality where these are people who have one rule for themselves and another

00:23:28.660 rule for everyone else.

00:23:30.720 And the, the only way to keep society functioning, as we learn from Christianity, is you have to 1.00

00:23:37.540 have the same rules for everyone.

00:23:39.200 Like certain rules must apply to everybody.

00:23:41.320 And these guys cannot accept it.

00:23:43.180 Yeah.

00:23:43.840 Yeah.

00:23:44.580 So now it's coming back.

00:23:45.440 Now the pendulum seems to have swung, at least to some degree.

00:23:49.520 People on the left are like, you know, welcome to our world.

00:23:52.640 Yeah.

00:23:52.760 Welcome to the party, pal.

00:23:54.640 Yeah.

00:23:55.080 Exactly.

00:23:55.340 Like Hassan, Mr. Piker. 0.99

00:23:59.820 Tweeting from under his bed.

00:24:01.940 Isn't that the guy who regularly calls for people to die or something like that?

00:24:05.380 I think he said a number of things.

00:24:06.420 I saw a clip the other day.

00:24:07.860 Say again?

00:24:08.460 Constantly.

00:24:09.020 Constantly.

00:24:09.540 There are compilations of him and compilations of destiny saying that, saying that their political 1.00

00:24:16.240 enemies should die, should be shot.

00:24:18.640 There's a very strange and disturbing video of destiny talking about how he was this close 1.00

00:24:24.760 to planning and committing a murder of somebody that he knew personally.

00:24:28.560 Really?

00:24:28.940 Yeah.

00:24:29.440 I didn't know that one. 0.68

00:24:30.040 These are mentally unstable people and they use terms, Hassan uses terms like fascists 0.59

00:24:37.340 to mark people out as his political enemy, kind of give himself a moral blank check to do whatever 0.92

00:24:42.800 he wants to.

00:24:43.440 That's exactly what happened.

00:24:44.100 And that is exactly what has happened to Charlie Kirk.

00:24:46.580 I did see a clip the other day, because I don't watch Monsieur Piker.

00:24:50.860 I did see a clip the other day where he just said, like, slice their bellies open or something

00:24:57.100 like that. 0.99

00:24:57.500 Explicitly just saying, cut them open, slice them open. 0.95

00:24:59.880 It's like, whoa. 0.90

00:25:00.820 Yeah.

00:25:01.120 And he's like, really, dude?

00:25:02.240 Let their guts lay on the floor in all of the blood and writhing.

00:25:05.800 And it's like, that's a sick thing to say.

00:25:07.680 Remember him saying America deserved 9-11.

00:25:10.420 That's pretty mental.

00:25:12.300 Pretty mental.

00:25:13.600 It seems that he has none of Cenk's savvy or temperance, which is a remarkable thing 0.99

00:25:19.760 to say when you're comparing somebody to Cenk you here.

00:25:21.820 But he's at least shown some class in this whole thing, comparatively.

00:25:27.200 Well, comparatively.

00:25:27.960 Yeah, to most of them.

00:25:29.080 I'll give you comparison.

00:25:29.620 My leftist standards, yes.

00:25:30.820 Absolutely.

00:25:31.020 He at least goes, hold up, hold up, hold up.

00:25:33.420 You're making us look really bad.

00:25:35.540 Yeah.

00:25:36.480 That is the other thing I think is funny.

00:25:37.640 You see the left, that sort of take, where they're saying,

00:25:42.140 they weren't saying it's bad to gloat over Charlie's murder.

00:25:47.720 But don't do it so explicitly, so openly.

00:25:49.920 It makes us look bad.

00:25:51.460 Did you see...

00:25:52.720 That's a bit revealing in and of itself, isn't it?

00:25:54.740 Did you see Anna Kasparian in Destiny on the Piers Morgan panel?

00:25:57.800 Again, I saw like a 40-second clip.

00:26:00.080 Yeah, I saw a bit.

00:26:01.120 I saw a little bit.

00:26:01.580 Because Anna is being, you know, reasonable.

00:26:04.460 She clearly knows that this is terrible optics.

00:26:07.200 And she herself has kind of been cancelled by the left for saying,

00:26:10.900 I was sexually assaulted and that's bad.

00:26:14.100 And they all went, oh, you hate migrants now, do you? 0.99

00:26:16.440 You hate the homeless, do you?

00:26:18.060 And she's like, well, maybe police on the streets to clean up the streets is not a bad thing. 0.97

00:26:23.080 And they went, oh, you're a fascist now. 0.96

00:26:25.000 I see you're a fascist now, Anna. 0.95

00:26:26.600 And Destiny comes on ostensibly on her side.

00:26:32.460 But there are so many clips and screenshots that came from just that short few minute long exchange

00:26:37.420 where she is clearly visibly repulsed by him.

00:26:42.220 Yeah. 0.99

00:26:43.040 Because he is disgusting. 0.99

00:26:44.800 He's got a weird thing where his jaw goes laterally when he talks. 0.99

00:26:47.800 Have you noticed that?

00:26:48.340 Anyway, anyway.

00:26:48.840 Apparently it's something that comes with methamphetamine abuse.

00:26:51.280 Oh, is it?

00:26:51.620 Yeah, not to say that that's why it does for him, but that's one of the main reasons that that can happen with people, supposedly.

00:26:57.720 Okay.

00:26:58.140 Yeah, I watched a bit of that clip and there was a point where they're both arguing with each other

00:27:01.180 and both just talking over each other without pausing.

00:27:04.460 You know, both sort of nearly shouting at the same time.

00:27:08.880 I've got about five, maybe ten seconds into that.

00:27:11.320 I'm like, that's enough, that's enough.

00:27:12.660 I get it, I get it.

00:27:13.900 So, okay, that's the story.

00:27:15.360 I've run out of time.

00:27:16.120 Jimmy Kimmel has been cancelled.

00:27:17.340 So maybe he'll go on, he'll start his own podcast.

00:27:20.680 Maybe he'll start a YouTube channel.

00:27:22.160 I mean, again, Jeremy at the quartering said, you know, good luck with that.

00:27:26.960 Good luck with that, dude.

00:27:29.080 Starting from the bottom.

00:27:30.960 When you have to genuinely compete in the marketplace of ideas and your ideas have already lost, good luck with that.

00:27:38.460 You're going to make ten videos a day like the quartering does. 0.99

00:27:41.040 I think that's why when they leave their networks, they all end up sort of becoming a little more sensible.

00:27:45.620 What was the CNN guy who saw, Jake Tapper, Jake Trapper or?

00:27:48.860 Jake Tapper is about the name?

00:27:50.820 No, I was thinking about the Cuomo, about actually.

00:27:53.780 Oh, Chris Cuomo.

00:27:54.840 Yes, Chris Cuomo.

00:27:55.820 He became a little more sensible after he left CNN.

00:28:00.160 And maybe Kimmel will try to pull that off.

00:28:02.020 But then you'll know, well, which one is the real guy?

00:28:05.720 Like, were you getting paid to lie?

00:28:08.540 And if so, the FCC should absolutely stomp on these networks' heads.

00:28:13.420 Yeah.

00:28:14.280 Little Freddo crashed and burnt when he tried to make it in the real world.

00:28:20.060 So, okay.

00:28:21.720 Jimmy Kimmel's being cancelled.

00:28:24.340 There you go.

00:28:25.000 May I have the mouse, please?

00:28:26.920 Would you like to go through your super chats or do you want me to?

00:28:29.640 If you wouldn't mind.

00:28:30.980 Yeah, that's fine.

00:28:32.100 So, on YouTube, you can only pick 1pm, Starmer or Blair, which one?

00:28:39.420 I'll address that to you, Beau.

00:28:41.780 God, that's tough.

00:28:43.600 You remember living under Blair better than I do.

00:28:45.360 That's tough.

00:28:45.760 Do you want your left eye plucked out or your right?

00:28:48.180 It's like, oh, God.

00:28:49.320 If nothing else, Blair has better media savvy.

00:28:52.480 If nothing else, Blair...

00:28:52.980 Think about it this way.

00:28:53.700 Would you rather have Poles or Indians? 1.00

00:28:55.860 Yeah.

00:28:56.480 Well, Poles, certainly. 0.96

00:28:58.320 Blair.

00:28:58.480 Yeah.

00:28:58.880 In some respects, Blair did some okay things.

00:29:05.080 It didn't feel like he was actively trying to speed run us off a cliff.

00:29:10.080 That's what he was doing.

00:29:11.200 But it didn't feel like that.

00:29:13.380 Well, we know it retrospectively.

00:29:14.940 Yeah, we know it retrospectively, though.

00:29:16.740 It's much more insidious than Starmer.

00:29:19.200 I don't know.

00:29:19.620 That's a tough question.

00:29:20.600 All right.

00:29:22.380 Someone says,

00:29:23.260 Bye, Jimmy.

00:29:24.220 Now do everyone on LBC.

00:29:26.140 I believe the academic agent is currently trying to work on that.

00:29:31.460 Normal Man says,

00:29:33.940 Could you please invite Razor Fist to discuss McCarthy someday?

00:29:37.280 Thank you.

00:29:38.160 I would love to.

00:29:39.100 I would love to chat to Razor Fist about McCarthy.

00:29:41.820 Before now, I've thrown a tiny bit of shade at Razor Fist because I don't agree with his take on Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln.

00:29:49.220 But I like him other than that.

00:29:52.600 And I watched a long-form video of his about two weeks ago about McCarthy.

00:29:56.680 And it was spot on.

00:29:58.140 And it was very well researched.

00:30:00.640 And he even said two or three things I didn't know before.

00:30:04.660 That makes me sound really big-headed, doesn't it?

00:30:05.940 He even referenced something I had not even heard of before.

00:30:09.940 But no, it was a very good video.

00:30:11.400 It was a very, very good video.

00:30:12.300 And I'd love to chat to him about it.

00:30:13.960 Whenever I've reached out to him once or twice on Twitter, he's blanked me.

00:30:17.300 But he is good friends with Carl.

00:30:19.500 So maybe, maybe one day.

00:30:21.220 Yeah.

00:30:21.440 Maybe one day.

00:30:21.960 I don't mind Razor Fist, but I mainly watch him for like when he discusses metal music.

00:30:26.520 Oh, right.

00:30:27.060 Because I like that stuff.

00:30:28.140 I'm a history nerd.

00:30:28.920 I just like the history stuff.

00:30:30.260 Yeah.

00:30:30.500 He does some good stuff.

00:30:31.900 K-Bar's BBQ says,

00:30:33.720 Jimmy Kimmel should be glad he isn't part of the AFD.

00:30:36.820 K-Bar's BBQ.

00:30:37.520 Oh, yeah.

00:30:38.340 I have to thank you for that name.

00:30:40.620 That's hilarious.

00:30:42.200 And on Rumble, Sorion555, leftists are losing their minds because they could never conceive

00:30:47.460 of a world where the right would hold them accountable for anything.

00:30:49.940 Now the shoe's on the other foot.

00:30:50.980 They visibly can't handle it.

00:30:52.340 We got a little bit of a taste of this last year as well.

00:30:54.860 And remember, these people are intellectually and emotionally stunted children.

00:31:01.220 Like my daughter isn't even two yet and she displays a greater depth of emotion and empathy

00:31:07.000 and the ability to share and care for others than these people do.

00:31:11.040 So you've got to expect tantrums.

00:31:13.320 That's a random name.

00:31:14.180 Based Harry strikes again with the true takes on conspiracies.

00:31:17.120 I'm happy the left are getting what they deserve.

00:31:18.580 I once got fired from a job for quote-unquote sexual harassment because I laughed at a joke.

00:31:24.900 Yeah, there you go.

00:31:26.500 Habsification. 1.00

00:31:27.240 Leftists.

00:31:27.840 Cancel culture is only real when it happens to me.

00:31:30.220 Yep.

00:31:30.460 That's the way it always works.

00:31:31.540 Again, children.

00:31:32.860 Drunk changeling. 0.98

00:31:33.720 Free speech isn't a theoretical principle.

00:31:35.360 It's a functional tool that stops us from becoming a Rwanda, but it only works when everyone 0.99

00:31:38.820 follows it.

00:31:39.420 People calling for violence need to face consequences.

00:31:42.300 Well, especially in the aftermath of real violence.

00:31:46.140 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:46.480 Sigil Stone.

00:31:47.580 Jimmy Kimmel getting fired is a tragedy.

00:31:49.460 They silenced a strong black man's voice.

00:31:52.120 That's very true.

00:31:52.860 He's just been doing sophisticated white face these past 25 years.

00:31:57.100 And Doomhand says, if I'm being honest, Kimmel's comments don't seem that bad.

00:32:00.640 Nothing he should have been fired over.

00:32:02.220 He said a lot worse during the lockdowns though, which is why I still don't feel bad that he

00:32:06.620 got fired.

00:32:07.760 Yeah.

00:32:08.060 Fair.

00:32:08.920 Again, regime propagandist.

00:32:10.800 I don't care so much for his rights, so to speak, at all.

00:32:16.020 Okay, moving on to the next segment.

00:32:19.720 So, for years now, we heard over and over and over again about the hotels that the invaders

00:32:25.680 of our country were being shipped into.

00:32:27.900 They were being held there.

00:32:29.240 And they were being given stipends, weekly stipends, for the privilege of being there.

00:32:34.920 And they were also illegally working for things like Deliveroo as delivery drivers when they

00:32:40.140 shouldn't have been.

00:32:40.920 We were told over and over again how much it cost.

00:32:44.220 People were upset about it, constantly pushing for it to be changed so that they weren't being

00:32:49.060 held in hotels.

00:32:50.100 And finally, the government listened to us.

00:32:53.320 However, it appears that we have had a bit of a monkey's paw wish.

00:32:57.940 Because they're not sending them back simply because they're not legally allowed to be here

00:33:04.140 in the first place.

00:33:05.080 No, instead, they will be coming to your neighborhood.

00:33:09.000 They might be coming to your student halls. 0.99

00:33:11.400 They may be coming next door, depending on how much of a greedy scumbag next door's landlord 0.99

00:33:18.580 may happen to be. 0.99

00:33:20.120 Chances are, as well, if they are one of those, that they might even be foreign.

00:33:25.360 I've seen it happen in towns local to me, where foreign landlords just are happy to put 1.00

00:33:31.140 new Britons into their housing instead of, you know, letting somebody who needs to get 0.99

00:33:37.300 onto the housing market or just rent a place instead.

00:33:41.260 So first, I'll be going through this.

00:33:43.460 And then, as we get towards the end of the segment, I'll discuss the consequences of these

00:33:47.260 people being in your neighborhoods and towns and some of the recent developments that have

00:33:51.100 been going on in Epping.

00:33:52.260 If you remember, two weeks ago, roughly, Callum from Epping, who had been organizing the protests

00:33:58.500 down there following the sexual assault of a minor by some of the illegal migrants that

00:34:03.680 were being held in one of the hotels, he came in and spoke on the subject and the protests.

00:34:09.260 And Jack Hadfield was here as well.

00:34:10.920 Well, there have been further developments as of yesterday and this morning in Epping that

00:34:16.040 Callum has been doing some live reporting on, and I have been trying to stay up to date

00:34:21.640 with it as well.

00:34:22.680 By the time this goes out as a clip on YouTube, things might have changed, things might have

00:34:26.840 developed again.

00:34:27.940 But we'll see.

00:34:28.820 I'll do the best that I can here.

00:34:30.240 So first of all, one of the things that they told us that they were going to do is have

00:34:33.480 a one-in-one-out process.

00:34:38.000 Which is absurd enough on the face of it already.

00:34:40.180 Which is completely useless.

00:34:41.760 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:42.620 It's completely useless as is, but at the very least they were trying to sell us on

00:34:47.720 some idea that the people who shouldn't be in this country, at least some of them, would 0.98

00:34:52.540 be leaving the country.

00:34:54.180 Well, guess what?

00:34:55.620 Not happening.

00:34:56.600 Even that.

00:34:57.560 Even that is too much.

00:34:59.740 Because on Monday, the first flights were supposed to take off with migrants on them. 1.00

00:35:03.980 There were no migrants on those flights.

00:35:05.760 On Tuesday, they were supposed to try again.

00:35:08.600 Still no migrants on there.

00:35:09.720 We can see the actual look of that in these posts here, where one of the Sun's reporters,

00:35:17.100 Thomas Godfrey, was on the plane, and there were no migrants there.

00:35:22.000 Or at least no illegal migrants being deported back to France.

00:35:25.660 So that is the face of how we all feel about this.

00:35:30.460 So why is it that they weren't sent off?

00:35:33.580 Who blocked it?

00:35:34.480 Well, can you believe...

00:35:35.140 Can I interrupt you for one second?

00:35:36.040 Yes, of course.

00:35:36.560 One of the reasons the one-in-one-out is so much worse than the pre-existing system is

00:35:42.380 that the ones in who would be taken would be a lot more likely to be allowed to bring

00:35:48.040 their entire family with them.

00:35:50.420 And one of the things that you see done is that they might send, like a father might

00:35:56.560 go and take his brother's child with him, and then that child gets to apply for family

00:36:02.540 reunification with her parents, and then rinse and repeat endlessly to sort of bring

00:36:08.680 in a whole extended family.

00:36:09.760 It acts as chain migration.

00:36:11.000 They are the anchor to get all the...

00:36:12.840 Exactly.

00:36:14.000 So the one-in-one-out was firstly missold to the public as being a way of reducing the

00:36:20.700 numbers.

00:36:21.660 Not only is it fundamentally an illegitimate thing to do, it's also a lie intended to

00:36:28.000 encourage chain migration.

00:36:29.780 But sorry to interrupt.

00:36:30.980 No, it's no problem.

00:36:31.660 The tiniest bit of red meat thrown out to pretend they're doing something. 1.00

00:36:36.360 It's poisoned meat.

00:36:37.120 Not even that, because the second they actually need to follow through on it, they still can't

00:36:42.140 do it, because our governments are just allergic to deporting people.

00:36:45.980 I know that Labour were putting out figures saying, was it at the beginning of last year,

00:36:50.420 we've already deported 20,000 people.

00:36:53.740 Have we seen any further updates since then?

00:36:56.820 Have they had any more big figures that they like to band about since then?

00:37:00.780 Because if I remember correctly, most of those deportations were actually done under the

00:37:04.960 last few months of the Tory government.

00:37:08.500 And that's a drop in the ocean anyway.

00:37:11.060 Yeah.

00:37:12.040 So, on this story, on Monday it was disclosed to the Telegraph that the first migrant to

00:37:17.780 be returned under the deal had been removed from his Air France flight, but the French 0.98

00:37:22.100 had been informed that he would be flown out on Tuesday.

00:37:23.960 However, the flight was delayed by at least another day.

00:37:26.760 Plans to send out a second migrant on Tuesday were also foiled after his lawyers claimed that

00:37:31.500 his experience of being tortured and trafficked should prevent him from being returned to

00:37:36.600 France.

00:37:37.320 This may sound callous.

00:37:38.880 Frankly, I don't care what happened to him before he arrived here.

00:37:42.520 Fact is, he shouldn't have been here in the first place.

00:37:45.420 And this, along with a ruling by, I believe it was Judge Sheldon, Justice Sheldon, I should

00:37:52.880 say, meant that he couldn't go and they just didn't send any of the others as well.

00:37:58.140 So, an already useless policy made even more ineffectual by not even having the power to

00:38:05.220 follow through with it because British and French charities started a campaign to bombard

00:38:10.420 Air France with phone calls, emails, and social media messages urging them to not to agree

00:38:17.020 to collaborate with the interior ministry and then not to deport these people on these

00:38:22.560 flights.

00:38:22.900 As far as I'm concerned, if these charities, if that's the function of these charities,

00:38:27.480 they should be shut down.

00:38:29.300 They should be shut down.

00:38:30.720 You have to register with the Charities Commission.

00:38:33.600 The Charities Commission needs to go in and say, no, you cannot do that.

00:38:38.120 You cannot interfere with the governmental processes.

00:38:41.840 You cannot operate in this country anymore.

00:38:44.380 I suggest that odds are that the funders of the charities include sources of open society

00:38:51.720 and the government.

00:38:53.320 So, basically, in every single way, British taxpayers are funding their own replacement

00:38:59.320 and they're funding their own invasion.

00:39:01.900 Yes.

00:39:02.820 So, that having ever voted on it and, in fact, at every chance voted against it.

00:39:07.720 Exactly.

00:39:08.500 I know a little bit about this case.

00:39:10.060 So, the guy, this one particular guy, that's sort of the case study, I suppose, is from Eritrea

00:39:16.240 and seems to have gone through Libya at some point because that was where he claimed that

00:39:25.080 he became a victim of trafficking.

00:39:27.060 Also, in an article I read, it said that his own mum had paid traffickers in the Calais region

00:39:33.460 £1,000 to make this thing happen.

00:39:37.600 So, all of that, yeah, yeah, I just don't care.

00:39:40.100 Yeah, I just don't care.

00:39:41.400 Get rid of him.

00:39:41.980 Clear him out.

00:39:42.600 Our business.

00:39:42.940 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:43.500 It's unfortunate.

00:39:44.820 It's unfortunate for you.

00:39:45.680 You should have stayed in Eritrea. 1.00

00:39:46.880 Yeah.

00:39:47.000 Can we take a moment to thank Sarkozy and Cameron for having destroyed Libya and allowed this 1.00

00:39:54.080 to happen out of an insane and misguided sense of human rights?

00:39:59.160 If they hadn't overthrown Gaddafi and completely failed in the aftermath of it, as everybody 0.67

00:40:05.480 with any sense told them that that would happen, which they should have known after what happened

00:40:10.120 in Iraq, a lot of this stuff wouldn't be happening.

00:40:13.380 So, the madness of the foreign policy here, I mean, remember, Libya was on the list of 0.94

00:40:18.560 countries that were supposed to be targeted after 9-11 to make sure that all of Israel's 0.99

00:40:25.260 enemies in the Middle East were eliminated.

00:40:26.900 There were seven or nine countries on that list.

00:40:28.440 Seven countries on that list.

00:40:28.900 I think it was Wes Clark listed them in 2008 at one point.

00:40:32.140 Exactly.

00:40:33.080 Good point.

00:40:33.480 I'll just add, I absolutely agree with you, the lack of any plan afterwards.

00:40:38.080 Because, personally, I'm glad that Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi are dead. 0.93

00:40:44.040 I think they were monstrous people.

00:40:45.720 But, but, but the horror that happened after is quite easily arguably worse.

00:40:51.800 Let's not get into it.

00:40:53.040 We'll save geopolitical discussions for your segment.

00:40:57.080 But the point I was going to say more generally, just about this, is that it seems to me that

00:41:02.840 what the governments always do is a form of filibustering on deporting people.

00:41:09.900 Yes.

00:41:10.960 It's what the Tories, it's what Braverman, it's all Braverman did, as far as I can tell.

00:41:15.200 It's what, it's what Preeti Patel did, it's what Cleverley did.

00:41:18.420 It's what they all do.

00:41:19.040 It's like they're pretending they're going to do something.

00:41:21.040 Like the whole Rwanda plan, sort of basically pretending they're going to do something. 0.90

00:41:25.580 And then, oh, the courts thwarted us, or, oh, the civil servants thwarted us.

00:41:31.200 Oh, we can't do that.

00:41:32.000 All right, back to square one.

00:41:33.160 Meanwhile, we're being invaded the whole time.

00:41:34.940 Well, do you remember when Preeti Patel was confronted about the amount of migrants she

00:41:39.580 legally let into the country in an interview?

00:41:42.640 And she just fell straight back onto, well, we needed those doctors and nurses, didn't we? 1.00

00:41:48.060 You want people serving your food, don't you?

00:41:50.740 And it's like, okay, you're not going to take any responsibility for this.

00:41:54.220 You're not going to accept that there have been any negative consequences, not just to

00:41:57.840 illegal immigration, which is, again, a drop in the bucket compared to legal migration of

00:42:04.020 millions of people coming from all over the world.

00:42:08.760 And we just got to trust the government to vet them.

00:42:11.600 Because I hate to break it to everybody, the rapists from Rotherham and Rochdale, all of

00:42:16.980 those places were here legally.

00:42:18.820 They weren't asylum seekers.

00:42:22.500 They were here legally.

00:42:24.360 The Manchester Arena bomber here legally.

00:42:26.920 I think nearly all the 7-7 bombers, or all of them, legal. 0.95

00:42:31.440 Axel Rudicabana, born here.

00:42:33.580 He was born here.

00:42:34.460 Welsh choir boy.

00:42:35.980 Welsh choir.

00:42:36.500 Yeah, but we shouldn't have any concern for these people.

00:42:41.140 But seeing as we can't deport them, well, where do they go now?

00:42:45.240 Well, at first they went to the hotels, as I stated.

00:42:49.200 But then for about a year now, we've been hearing reports on this.

00:42:53.700 So this is an article from August of last year.

00:42:56.780 And even if you go further back than that, you can see rumblings around 2022 of people

00:43:02.440 like Morgoth reporting on Serco, one of the major government contractors for HMOs, Houses

00:43:10.300 of Multiple Occupancy, looking to start schemes to offer landlords a lot of money, monthly

00:43:19.100 £3,000 rental payments with none of the responsibility that comes with normal landlord, the job of

00:43:27.520 being a normal landlord, like having to maintain things, pay for upkeep, pay for certain bills, all of the

00:43:35.060 responsibility taken off of their hands, purely for the sake of making them HMOs where they can house 0.94

00:43:40.560 migrants.

00:43:41.220 That's been going on for years now.

00:43:44.080 We've reported on it before, but it's really come into full force now.

00:43:47.980 And we knew that this was going to start happening as late as, sorry, as early as August of last year.

00:43:54.140 So the government made a statement about it at the time, saying that what it's all about

00:43:58.020 is having a more equitable dispersal of asylum seekers.

00:44:01.840 Otherwise, you have these areas that have concentrated numbers, also equitable, the moralistic

00:44:08.260 language, as if it's...

00:44:11.280 As if there was anything equitable about this to begin with.

00:44:13.340 Yeah, it's kind of like it's, they already know in the implication there that it's bad for

00:44:18.560 them to be in one place.

00:44:20.760 So it would be, they want to lighten the load on some places by making everywhere equally

00:44:25.060 terrible.

00:44:26.120 Otherwise, you have these areas that have concentrated numbers, and that's where, uh, what we got

00:44:29.900 in areas with hotels and large sites.

00:44:31.740 That creates a whole host of challenges, meaning services in those areas are then stretched,

00:44:35.420 and asylum seekers can't get the basic or crucial support that they need, which is none of our 1.00

00:44:41.380 responsibility.

00:44:42.200 Just because a bunch of people who are dead now signed some agreement in 1948 so that

00:44:49.040 Eastern European refugees wouldn't immediately get gulagged by the Soviets doesn't mean we

00:44:55.020 have to take in the absolute refuse of the entire world.

00:45:00.020 That's not how that works.

00:45:01.300 That's not how that should work.

00:45:02.840 We don't owe these people, I think people that come across us on small boats, we don't

00:45:07.060 owe them anything.

00:45:08.380 The implication is that we, we, we're obliged to help them.

00:45:12.760 We're not.

00:45:13.900 We're not.

00:45:14.880 And, and no other country takes it to this kind of extreme.

00:45:18.600 I mean, Britain's policy about this, it was done briefly by Biden when he was putting

00:45:22.560 up illegal migrants in hotels.

00:45:23.900 But this is such an extreme point of view.

00:45:28.040 If you are going to even pretend that you owe them something, you owe them maybe a bed

00:45:33.920 in a military barracks, along with a bunch of other people like them.

00:45:37.680 You don't owe them high-end properties in London.

00:45:40.640 You don't owe them properties in, in the middle of towns up and down Britain.

00:45:44.640 I mean, even if you're going to pretend that you could owe them something, which it's itself

00:45:49.080 false, not this.

00:45:51.240 But they also said that they were looking to massively increase the procurement of dispersed

00:45:58.380 accommodations, such as empty homes or former student blocks, which is now coming into effect

00:46:03.160 because it's not like we have a housing crisis or anything in this country.

00:46:08.200 Earlier on this year, people got a hold of this map, Serco migrant sites by county, which

00:46:16.500 showed the areas where it appeared that they were going to start trying to disperse

00:46:21.000 these migrants who otherwise would be staying in hotels.

00:46:24.900 As you can see, the Northwest, in particular, was suddenly going to get a huge influx, particularly

00:46:32.580 around the Liverpool and Greater Manchester, Lancashire area.

00:46:36.880 And that is what we are beginning to see now.

00:46:39.060 They tried to walk it back and say, no, no, no, no.

00:46:41.960 That's not what's going to happen.

00:46:43.220 When the government released a statement, sorry, the Home Office released a statement

00:46:47.320 saying that the list of local authorities Serco shared on its website for landlords is

00:46:52.960 not a Home Office list, nor is it a list of any existing or future asylum accommodation.

00:46:58.060 Serco is one of several companies contracted by the previous government six years ago to

00:47:01.840 provide dispersal asylum accommodation in different regions.

00:47:04.680 And this list simply appears to reflect the geographical list of local authorities covered

00:47:09.180 by the Serco contracts at that time.

00:47:12.780 That's like a denial and admission in the same light.

00:47:17.680 It's not a list of a future or existing asylum accommodation.

00:47:21.640 It's just a list of existing asylum accommodation.

00:47:24.660 Yes, exactly.

00:47:27.100 The logistical point to remember here is that by doing this, they make it a lot harder for

00:47:34.140 a future government to actually conduct deportations.

00:47:37.360 And they make it much more painful to the local population because imagine the police sort of

00:47:43.100 tearing through the house next door as they try to put seven, ten hostile men on a van and

00:47:49.160 send them off.

00:47:49.700 At least in hotels, you have them in groups of hundreds, but somewhat centralized.

00:47:55.940 The proper thing to do is obviously to use military barracks, but dispersing them in the population 1.00

00:48:00.980 allows them to hide more effectively and makes it much harder to do deportations on any basis

00:48:08.280 other than, oh, you don't look British.

00:48:10.920 Let me see your papers.

00:48:13.020 And then when that ends up being the only way of doing it, they'll start crying, 0.90

00:48:17.860 well, you're a Nazi, that's fascism. 0.67

00:48:19.760 Why are you asking British people for their IDs?

00:48:21.880 And pretending that, you know, the foreigners are actually natives. 1.00

00:48:27.320 So there's a game that's being played here that's deeply destructive, that's extremely well thought

00:48:34.200 out, obviously, and malicious.

00:48:38.160 Yeah, it is malicious.

00:48:39.280 Absolutely.

00:48:39.960 Evil.

00:48:40.600 And like you've got a lovely, pristine piece of canvas.

00:48:43.200 Someone drops a big turd in the middle of it.

00:48:45.960 And you say, hey, you've just dropped a turd in the middle of my pristine canvas.

00:48:49.340 Now, it's okay.

00:48:50.160 I've got a spatula here.

00:48:51.280 Let me smear it across the entire thing.

00:48:53.480 That's better now, isn't it?

00:48:54.560 It's evenly spread now.

00:48:56.180 Great.

00:48:56.600 Brilliant.

00:48:57.100 It's equitable dispersal.

00:48:57.560 That's equitable.

00:48:58.420 Yeah, exactly.

00:48:59.060 But now we begin to see where the government was lying, which we already knew that they

00:49:05.260 were, because there are already reports coming from places across those areas in the greater

00:49:10.660 Manchester and Lancashire area of the effects of these migrants being airdropped into their 0.99

00:49:16.000 communities.

00:49:16.420 So this is in Horwich, where the locals are complaining about late night parties, overcrowding

00:49:22.180 and drug taking, blame the latest government migrant initiative.

00:49:25.360 The move has seen migrants being turfed out of the hotels and sent to live in houses of

00:49:30.240 multiple occupancy across the country.

00:49:32.620 Horwich residents claim their town in greater Manchester is bearing the brunt as hundreds

00:49:36.760 of HMOs.

00:49:38.740 And that's in the past few years, they don't specify, but in the past few years, the HMOs

00:49:45.540 in the Bolton area have risen from 170 to 720. 0.50

00:49:52.980 That's ridiculous.

00:49:54.580 Under a... 0.97

00:49:56.120 That's what, almost quadrupled?

00:49:58.080 Yep.

00:49:58.460 If not more.

00:49:59.740 If not more.

00:50:00.660 And that's because the private landlords have decided that they would rather take the £3,000

00:50:05.020 per month, no strings attached, than actually provide housing to locals who need it.

00:50:11.880 Who maybe are looking to move out of their parents' home for the first time in their lives

00:50:15.840 and at least start renting somewhere so they can have their independence.

00:50:19.580 Nope, sorry.

00:50:20.980 Sorry, I'm not doing that anymore. 0.98

00:50:22.160 The government's given me a nice fat cheque of £3,000 per month to sit on my arse and 0.98

00:50:27.560 do nothing. 0.98

00:50:28.540 And now you, Mr Next Door neighbour, have to put up with, as in this case, six Afghans, 1.00

00:50:34.400 Syrians and Eritreans.

00:50:36.540 Smoking weed next door and drinking till the late hours of the night every single day. 0.80

00:50:42.060 And then, presumably, likely, going on to menace your children, as we'll see later on.

00:50:49.900 Locals are angry at the overcrowding, lack of housing for Brits, and claims that single

00:50:53.800 parents with families have been evicted from homes, which have been turned into HMOs by 0.99

00:50:58.500 the private landlords cashing in.

00:51:00.160 Residents have said that single mum used to live in one house with her two kids in one

00:51:04.840 of the terraced houses nearby, but she was kicked out with a Section 21 no-fault eviction

00:51:10.320 notice by her landlord, who then turned the three-bed home using builders into an HMO with

00:51:16.360 locks and fire doors in every room.

00:51:18.220 And just after Christmas, a minibus pulled up outside and six men moved in.

00:51:22.780 Does that sound fair?

00:51:24.620 Does that sound reasonable?

00:51:25.440 Because it's one thing for these people to be coming into the neighbourhoods in the first

00:51:28.840 place.

00:51:29.380 It's one thing for the government to be airdropping them in.

00:51:32.160 It's another thing that this is encouraging some of the most heinous behaviour possible,

00:51:36.580 the most uncharitable behaviour possible from landlords.

00:51:40.440 We don't know if these landlords or property developers are local or if they are foreigners.

00:51:46.760 I know, again, in my local town, there were plans to try and turn one of the local properties

00:51:53.520 into an HMO.

00:51:54.520 The council did block that, I believe, by trying to use an Article 4, which makes it so that

00:52:02.080 you have to go through far stricter planning permissions to be able to put this through.

00:52:07.140 And those landlords, those landlords who wanted to turn it into HMOs, Indians. 1.00

00:52:12.240 Because they don't care about the local neighbourhood.

00:52:14.540 They don't care about little market towns all across the country being able to be places

00:52:18.540 for locals to live and make their lives and have a sense of community.

00:52:22.440 They just want to make money.

00:52:24.300 That's all they care about.

00:52:26.540 People like that should not be allowed to own property in this country if that is what

00:52:31.700 they are going to do with it.

00:52:32.800 Loads and loads of landlords, property owners in this country are foreigners.

00:52:36.740 Loads.

00:52:37.360 And it's sort of not okay.

00:52:39.340 In lots of countries in the world, I think, for example, Thailand, it's very, very difficult

00:52:45.080 for a foreign person to become a Thai citizen.

00:52:49.900 Very, very difficult.

00:52:51.000 Or subject.

00:52:51.680 They've got a king, haven't they?

00:52:52.780 Very, very, very difficult to buy and run and own a business in Thailand or to buy a property

00:52:59.300 in Thailand.

00:53:00.600 A lot of the world works like that.

00:53:02.360 It's like, no, you're not one of us.

00:53:04.240 So you can't own.

00:53:05.760 Well, we'll make it extremely, extremely difficult, almost impossible for you to own anything

00:53:09.860 for exactly this sort of reason.

00:53:11.820 Yes.

00:53:11.980 Exactly that sort of reason.

00:53:12.780 Because they know that you won't care.

00:53:15.960 You can be the landlord from the other side of the world and you don't care who really

00:53:19.680 lives there and what they're like.

00:53:21.220 Yeah.

00:53:21.520 And that's terrible for them.

00:53:23.020 So they don't allow it.

00:53:24.260 Yeah.

00:53:24.760 But we, anyone can come here.

00:53:26.660 You're Russian, you're Indian, whatever.

00:53:28.100 You come here, you've got enough money, you can buy whatever you want, do whatever you

00:53:30.320 want.

00:53:30.760 And what happens to these neighbourhoods?

00:53:32.800 They, well, first of all, the houses become slums.

00:53:36.180 And it destroys the family homes in the local area because, as we were discussing before

00:53:40.360 this came, before we came on air, what happens to the neighbours?

00:53:43.460 Well, their next door neighbour is now a slum.

00:53:47.580 Their next door, the home next door is a slum.

00:53:49.660 So they don't want to live there anymore.

00:53:51.040 They don't want their children growing up around that.

00:53:53.000 So they move out.

00:53:54.620 Maybe it gets brought up by a property developer.

00:53:56.940 Maybe it gets brought up by someone looking to be a landlord and take advantage of this

00:54:01.300 same scheme.

00:54:02.500 So they move more in.

00:54:03.500 More people move out.

00:54:05.000 And eventually, you've got a ghetto. 0.55

00:54:07.120 A ghetto filled with slums.

00:54:09.440 It destroys communities.

00:54:11.140 It destroys family homes.

00:54:12.960 And it turns everywhere, as always, into South Africa. 0.82

00:54:17.300 Because that seems to be the ultimate goal of all of this.

00:54:20.460 South Africanisation.

00:54:21.580 The government contractor, Serco, carries on, has been advertising private landlords to

00:54:26.260 provide houses for migrants in an appeal with the heading, Are you a landlord?

00:54:30.120 Serco has said it will consider all types of properties.

00:54:32.740 So they target.

00:54:33.580 They target areas and say, we'll give you a lot of money to do nothing.

00:54:38.480 As an independent councillor, David Grant said, if you have a family home that you can rent

00:54:42.640 out for 700 quid and then you have a government contact that comes along for an HMO house and

00:54:47.720 you can rent it for three grand a month with no liabilities, no maintenance, and no adherence

00:54:52.020 to any rules or regulations, the landlord is going to do that.

00:54:55.080 And as well as Horwich, we see it all over.

00:54:59.060 Here's one in a private accommodation in Nuneaton.

00:55:01.920 We've all seen this chap, Mohammed, as reported on by the Daily Mail and his ever so grateful

00:55:07.940 expression that we saw in that.

00:55:10.880 And we've got more reports where there are over 100 villages, towns and cities where they're

00:55:17.360 coming in.

00:55:17.840 And they report on here in the Daily Mail saying that only 30,000 or so of the approximately

00:55:24.000 110,000 illegal migrants in the asylum system remain in hotels.

00:55:29.260 So they've already dispersed most of them or are in the process of dispersing them.

00:55:34.820 This week, the BBC delved into the problem by going to a Lancashire town of Wigan, which

00:55:38.920 has recently clamped down on the huge number of HMOs there, many of them for asylum seekers.

00:55:43.080 What does HMO stand for?

00:55:44.760 Houses of multiple occupation.

00:55:46.900 So again, when they buy these places up, the multiple occupation...

00:55:50.020 It's a family home that's converted to essentially a stinky dorm.

00:55:53.780 Yeah, they turn it into essentially dorm.

00:55:55.900 So it's not just one person, maybe a wife and a few kids moving in.

00:56:00.460 It is six or seven grown men moving in next door to you.

00:56:06.040 It's because in America, apparently HMO means something else.

00:56:08.280 But just to make it clear for a second.

00:56:09.480 Despite having a housing list of, this is Wigan, of 12,000 people, it has 900 HMOs.

00:56:17.040 A 190% increase in only four years.

00:56:20.500 So people are seeing what's going on and they're cashing in.

00:56:23.960 So one of the locals said that he'd been living next door to one abode, saying,

00:56:28.380 I've had intimidation, confrontations on the street.

00:56:31.040 He said, as he showed photos from a year ago of young men dressed as delivery drivers

00:56:35.180 coming in and out of the house, even though asylum seekers are not allowed to work. 0.94

00:56:38.840 The migrants in Wigan, a once-proud cotton town, were placed there by Serco, one of three 0.99

00:56:43.940 giant home office accommodation providers.

00:56:46.900 The others being Mears Group, PLC, and Clear Springs Ready Homes.

00:56:51.640 So if any of you watching have any kind of investments in Serco, Mears Group, Clear Springs,

00:56:57.340 pull them out.

00:56:58.680 Pull them out.

00:56:59.480 I know the government are the ones contracting them, so it won't make that much of a difference,

00:57:03.880 but you can at least do whatever you can to make a slight dent on these people.

00:57:09.300 Serco, when asked, told the BBC it wasn't responsible for the behaviour of migrants in

00:57:15.060 the community, saying that was a matter for the police or the government.

00:57:19.120 So they take a load of money from the government, advertise, targeted advertise to local landlords

00:57:26.800 to get them to move these people in, drop them off, not our problem anymore. 0.99

00:57:30.980 Scum. 1.00

00:57:32.560 These people are scum. 1.00

00:57:35.420 They are selling you down the river for money. 1.00

00:57:39.220 They should not be allowed in any position of authority to do such a thing.

00:57:44.100 And they go on to mention here that in Grimsby, a terraced house was recently revamped as an

00:57:48.900 HMO to provide four bedrooms, including one on the ground floor.

00:57:52.360 We talked to two Afghanis and a Yemeni.

00:57:54.640 You want them in your neighbourhood, don't you?

00:57:56.720 Who have moved in courtesy of the government.

00:57:58.640 They were pleased to get rent-free accommodation.

00:58:02.860 I'm sure they are.

00:58:04.040 Yeah, they were, yeah.

00:58:05.120 I'm sure they are.

00:58:05.940 And what do the landlords have to say about all of this?

00:58:08.340 Well, I found an article on Landlord Today whining, whining that some local councils have

00:58:16.620 started to do Article 4 directions, particularly in Horwich.

00:58:20.620 They say it's not fair.

00:58:22.680 It's not fair. 1.00

00:58:23.900 All we want to do is turn your neighbourhood into a shit slum. 1.00

00:58:28.500 It's not fair that the councils and the local residents say that we shouldn't just be able 0.99

00:58:33.340 to turn all of the local properties into HMOs and cash in.

00:58:37.020 I mean, I never, ever thought I would have any kind of sympathy for the Marxist landlord interpretation.

00:58:44.340 You've read my mind.

00:58:45.820 But if anything was going to do it, it's this.

00:58:49.540 Yes.

00:58:49.960 It's this.

00:58:50.560 If you have no sense of local community and are only there to make a quick buck by ruining towns and neighbourhoods,

00:58:58.800 you should not be allowed to have any control over even a doghouse, let alone actual properties that people live in.

00:59:08.260 And now, of course, we're seeing the move into flats as well.

00:59:11.440 This has started to happen in Aberdeen.

00:59:13.480 People are very, very upset about it.

00:59:16.620 And what happens once they're in your local neighbourhood other than just disruption?

00:59:21.240 Well, this is where we're going to get on to some of the more relevant recent stuff.

00:59:26.400 So, for one, some of these people who end up in the neighbourhoods turn out to be like this guy, 0.74

00:59:33.000 an Egyptian illegal migrant, 42 years old, who raped a woman in Hyde Park. 0.97

00:59:40.180 It turned out he was already a convicted Islamic terrorist. 0.97

00:59:43.700 And the Home Office knew.

00:59:46.620 The Home Office knew, and they're still paying Serko to make sure they're in your neighbourhood.

00:59:53.180 Living in the Hilton Hotel off Hyde Park.

00:59:56.140 Yep.

00:59:57.860 You have to understand how broken the economy is for the Hilton to accept this.

01:00:02.500 Or how much money the government is throwing at the Hilton to break the economy and accept this.

01:00:08.460 Yeah.

01:00:09.040 Alright then.

01:00:10.320 Anyway, we're getting on, so I'll go rapid fire now.

01:00:13.000 To the more relevant stuff.

01:00:14.220 Obviously, all of this kind of behaviour,

01:00:16.140 these kinds of developments are what caused the protests in Epping a few weeks ago

01:00:21.700 that led to a friend of the show, Callum, getting arrested

01:00:24.980 and led to the government decision, sorry, the independent judiciary decision

01:00:29.960 to not shut down the local asylum hotel in Epping.

01:00:35.060 Presumably, they're still looking for local houses to put them in instead.

01:00:39.960 Well, what kick-started that in the first place?

01:00:42.180 Well, it was accusations of one of the migrants living in that hotel having sexually assaulted a girl.

01:00:47.680 Well, people, at the time in the mainstream media,

01:00:51.440 said that this was some kind of libel, that he hadn't done anything,

01:00:54.760 this was just local racists looking for a reason to protest.

01:00:58.700 Wrong.

01:01:00.300 He was guilty.

01:01:01.560 They arrested him.

01:01:02.760 They tried him.

01:01:03.740 He was guilty.

01:01:04.720 He's been convicted.

01:01:05.540 So, that was justified.

01:01:09.960 That was justified.

01:01:10.980 Well, what else is happening in Epping right now today?

01:01:15.840 So, yesterday, two men tried to break into a school in Epping.

01:01:22.520 Here you can see him, right there.

01:01:25.140 Situation is developing, but the children aren't safe, that's for sure.

01:01:29.580 They are trying to break into your schools.

01:01:32.000 How did the Daily Mirror report on this?

01:01:35.100 Well, they reported on it, but if you can see here,

01:01:38.900 they cropped his head and arms out so you can't see that he's black.

01:01:43.460 Wow. 0.75

01:01:44.440 Wow.

01:01:45.280 There you go.

01:01:46.000 There is the-

01:01:46.280 Extreme?

01:01:47.640 Uh, there's no excuse.

01:01:50.340 No excuse for this at all.

01:01:52.000 They are trying to hide it from you, as always, so that you are unsafe.

01:01:57.020 If they try to hide this information from you,

01:01:59.100 it is because they do not want you to have your guard up around these people

01:02:02.520 who are clear and present dangers to yourself and to your children.

01:02:06.820 They want them living in your neighbourhoods.

01:02:08.900 They want them menacing your children.

01:02:10.760 They want them to hurt you.

01:02:12.300 There is only one explanation.

01:02:15.200 And it was confirmed independently by other people like Charlie Peters of GB News

01:02:20.200 and reported on saying it was confirmed the man who broke into a school in Epping

01:02:23.160 is a homeless asylum seeker who was on the run from the police.

01:02:27.140 This is madness.

01:02:27.800 So clearly, harassing children, trespassing, aggravated trespassing.

01:02:32.940 Surely when they arrested him, something was done.

01:02:36.180 He was put through the criminal system.

01:02:37.720 He's in jail right now.

01:02:38.720 I thought he was already failing to attend court, so he's literally on the run.

01:02:42.840 Yep.

01:02:43.320 No, they let him out straight away.

01:02:45.560 Huh.

01:02:45.840 They let him out straight away.

01:02:47.480 I'm not going to play the whole clip because this segment's already gone on for a while,

01:02:50.260 but what happened was the locals were speaking to this police officer saying,

01:02:54.600 why have you let him go?

01:02:55.880 And I think they said it was something like conditional bail

01:02:58.020 and then this absolute jobsworth here.

01:03:02.060 Somebody had a picture of him, but either way,

01:03:04.940 this absolute jobsworth is like, oh, well, it was trespass,

01:03:08.060 but it weren't aggravated trespass, so we can't do anything.

01:03:11.140 That's just the law.

01:03:12.900 That's just the law.

01:03:13.560 The law means that if some violent criminal breaks into your school,

01:03:20.860 menacing your children, they just let him go.

01:03:23.660 Not even a slap on the wrist.

01:03:25.880 Is that a system that works?

01:03:27.640 Is that how you have a society, even a civil society?

01:03:31.380 No.

01:03:31.820 And what are the consequences of such a thing?

01:03:35.400 Well, he immediately goes to a school again the morning after.

01:03:39.880 He immediately goes to a school the morning after.

01:03:42.380 This is a developing situation.

01:03:44.500 Locals around Waltham Abbey spotted the same man hanging around schools.

01:03:51.720 And it's been reported, and I've verified this through contacts.

01:03:55.240 I've spoken to Callum and a number of other people.

01:03:57.980 Adam Brooks has posted on Twitter saying that he's just visited the school and confirmed.

01:04:02.820 The school is now locked down.

01:04:05.720 Local parents are rushing back to the school so that they can pick up their children because they are unsafe.

01:04:13.240 And do you know why that is?

01:04:14.340 Well, we found something else as well, which is they were living in a forest behind the school in a camp that they put up.

01:04:23.420 But locals, by the looks of it, have gone and trashed the camp.

01:04:27.540 Clearly an engineer.

01:04:29.660 They've trashed the camp.

01:04:31.200 But as we can see here, a mate of mine was just down the Upshire school and said one of the mums showed him a video of the field behind the school.

01:04:37.640 It's got a tarp up, and they're living there.

01:04:40.020 So even if they can't get houses, they will do whatever they can to be near your children and make them unsafe and harass and menace them.

01:04:53.300 And then when somebody gives this guy what he deserves, somebody on the left is going to cry that this was a racist attack.

01:04:59.520 Yep.

01:05:00.540 And the police will act, but they won't act at any point to actually do something to protect school children.

01:05:07.400 There is.

01:05:07.860 This is criminal.

01:05:09.000 There is.

01:05:09.560 The people responsible for this are clearly traitors, and there is no other way of looking at it.

01:05:13.740 There is no compromise on this.

01:05:15.860 The people who are behind this, who allowed this to happen, need to be tried for criminal charges.

01:05:21.600 The people doing this, the actual migrants themselves, there is no compromise. 0.99

01:05:25.840 There is no halfway there system of one in, one out.

01:05:30.320 There is no Rwanda plan. 0.91

01:05:32.160 There is no dispersal that will fix this.

01:05:34.540 This will only spread the problem to the far corners of this country.

01:05:38.680 The only solution is to send these people back. 0.61

01:05:43.220 Deport them.

01:05:43.900 We need to re-migrate these people back to where they come from before more people can be hurt. 1.00

01:05:51.120 Yep.

01:05:52.080 Hear, hear.

01:05:52.360 Sorry that went on for a while, but there was a lot of information to go through there.

01:05:56.820 I'll quickly run through the Rumble Rants and Super Chats that we've got.

01:06:02.040 Thank you.

01:06:02.780 Thanks for all your research so we can keep up with what's really going on.

01:06:05.380 Oh, also, if you are in that local area, there is a peaceful protest arranged outside the Lufthansa Police Station later.

01:06:14.460 So if you feel like showing up to that, just make sure that it remains peaceful and make sure that you are being targeted in your demands so that you can get actual justice done.

01:06:23.820 These people can't remain in that community.

01:06:26.600 Charlie Kirk texted Dave Smith two days after his Douglas Murray debate, claiming Dave was right about Israel because he has the source quotes.

01:06:33.960 Well, Dave Smith is a very intelligent man and makes some very good arguments.

01:06:40.040 Apparently the police helicopter is looking for him but claim they can't arrest him as he hasn't committed a crime.

01:06:44.400 This is from Epping.

01:06:45.800 Great.

01:06:46.660 Yet.

01:06:47.520 Yet, yet.

01:06:48.200 Luke, when is based Harry going to do a gym sesh with Marcus Follin, the Golden Jarl, Sweden's Giga Chad, PS Bo could discuss history with him.

01:06:56.940 I would get absolutely, I would get cucked by Marcus and the amount of weight that I can lift versus what he can lift. 0.72

01:07:06.640 I would look pathetic. 0.92

01:07:07.840 But, I'd like to go anyway because he just seems like a generally very pleasant and friendly guy. 0.77

01:07:12.640 Uh, the great political shell game, they make Yugoslavia and will be, and will get to be the first. 1.00

01:07:19.080 I don't know exactly what you mean by that but thank you for the money anyway.

01:07:22.580 That's a random name on Rumble.

01:07:24.200 In Harold the Reds, Britain, HMOs will be made into a crime against humanity punishable by a good lashing. 1.00

01:07:29.060 I'm not saying that that's what I would do but some are saying.

01:07:32.340 Sigil Stone, can you explain what you mean by these abbreviations?

01:07:35.580 Okay, yeah, we've already explained HMO.

01:07:37.280 So, uh, in Bose, Britain, can we confiscate properties from landlords that take the government's money to betray the company, their country?

01:07:43.780 Yeah, those that be deported, we could at least give the, we'll confiscate their property and at least give them the market value of that.

01:07:50.800 Otherwise, it's just stealing.

01:07:52.440 Yeah.

01:07:52.740 But yeah, when they're deported, their property's taken away, yeah.

01:07:55.980 There we go.

01:07:56.680 That's a random name though.

01:07:57.720 No Sigil Stone, based on his takes, Harry would be the Goblin Hunter, rubs hands.

01:08:02.020 And that's in response to Sigil saying, since Starmer is handing out property, can I get a castle?

01:08:05.640 Well, Beau can be my master at arms.

01:08:07.920 Harry can be the dungeon troll.

01:08:09.760 Thanks.

01:08:10.260 Thanks, bro.

01:08:11.600 And, uh, Fictagia says, remember when Labour slash Kitla Stalin said how bad the Rwanda plan was?

01:08:18.620 Oh dear.

01:08:19.800 Oh, it's all rhetoric.

01:08:20.860 It's all rhetoric.

01:08:21.560 They never follow through with anything, uh, except for making things worse.

01:08:26.500 Anyway.

01:08:27.020 Yep.

01:08:27.340 Here is, oh, you've already got the mouse.

01:08:28.720 No, I got the mouse.

01:08:29.380 It's, uh, somehow the topic that I'm discussing, which is Israel, is slightly more pleasant than

01:08:35.440 what you were discussing.

01:08:37.200 Um, but the Middle East is changing in response to the way that the United States is refusing

01:08:44.160 in any way to police the Israelis and get them to calm down.

01:08:48.600 Uh, yesterday, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan signed a mutual defense agreement, which states that

01:08:55.460 attack on one country is considered an attack on the other one by implication, extending

01:09:01.000 Pakistan's nuclear umbrella to Saudi Arabia.

01:09:04.120 And this was a direct result of the Israelis deciding that they were going to bomb, uh,

01:09:11.900 Hamas leaders in Qatar.

01:09:13.600 Uh, they basically decided that what they need to do is to bomb the negotiating team of

01:09:22.140 Hamas in Qatar, which is the country holding the mediation to end the war.

01:09:27.400 And that was Israel's idea of trying to improve their, the prospects of a peaceful solution.

01:09:32.700 Uh, Qatar is a major non-NATO ally, meaning that, of the United States, meaning that it 0.65

01:09:40.520 is designated as a sort of American protectorate.

01:09:43.920 And the fact that the Americans would allow Israeli jets to go over, probably over Saudi

01:09:49.260 airspace and then bomb a major non-NATO ally, um, kind of wipes the floor with the credibility

01:09:56.040 of American security guarantees.

01:09:58.920 And haven't America got a giant base in Qatar?

01:10:01.420 They do, they do, with very sophisticated air defense systems, which did absolutely nothing.

01:10:07.180 Meaning that the Americans were at least a passive participant in the strike.

01:10:11.640 And the idea that they didn't know about it is ridiculous because the commander of American

01:10:15.700 forces in the Middle East was in Israel three days before.

01:10:18.600 And American commanders sit at every level next to Israeli counterparts, coordinating the

01:10:24.200 regional war.

01:10:24.820 So this caused the Saudis to panic because they figured we could be next.

01:10:32.160 And they decided to go and get a nuclear guarantee from the Pakistanis. 0.97

01:10:38.200 Uh, I wrote a little bit on my personal blog about the, the, the strike on, on, on Qatar or

01:10:42.840 what it means.

01:10:43.420 But one of the things that it means is that when the Americans say that they want to negotiate,

01:10:47.800 it could be a ruse to start bombing you because this is the second time that it happens.

01:10:52.440 In the same year.

01:10:53.520 In the same year.

01:10:54.180 This is what happened with Iran. 0.97

01:10:55.560 They were given the 60 day deadline.

01:10:57.660 And then as soon as the deadline was up and there was a number of roadblocks put in place

01:11:01.500 to actually coming up with an agreement, boom.

01:11:03.300 No, no, worse than that, negotiations between the Americans and the Iranians were scheduled

01:11:08.200 for two days later.

01:11:10.220 And then the Israelis attacked them.

01:11:13.100 And the perception is that, look, we can't trust the Americans.

01:11:17.140 And so the Muslim states are banding together.

01:11:20.280 And Saudi Arabia aligning with Pakistan is a big deal because Pakistan is a major defense 0.87

01:11:25.560 ally of Turkey.

01:11:27.300 They work together on developing military technology, training, tactics, et cetera, et cetera.

01:11:32.600 And the Turks clearly see that relationship as a future pathway for them to get nuclear weapons. 0.91

01:11:39.940 And now with the Pakistani nuclear umbrella extended to Saudi Arabia and with the Turks

01:11:44.860 and the Israelis fighting in Syria by proxy for now, but the Israelis last week took out

01:11:50.940 some Turkish surveillance equipment by attacking Syrian territory directly.

01:11:56.720 What the Israelis are willing into being is their nightmare, which is, 1.00

01:12:02.600 these big Muslim countries allying together rather than doing what they would normally do, 1.00

01:12:06.860 which is fight each other.

01:12:09.040 So this is a bit of a disaster.

01:12:11.340 It is worrying Pakistan extending its nuclear umbrella to Saudi Arabia because alliances like 0.59

01:12:16.920 that, we've done that before, I think, of course, of 1914, where, yeah, one small thing

01:12:25.440 can very quickly snowball into something gigantic.

01:12:29.620 Exactly.

01:12:29.820 So what's happening now is that, not just that, the other huge defense partner of Pakistan is obviously China.

01:12:39.160 And it was Chinese equipment that was responsible for shooting down the Indian jets,

01:12:45.100 the Indian Rafals and the Indian MiGs that were shot down in May.

01:12:48.340 So what you're ending up with is a situation where the Muslim world as a whole,

01:12:55.800 because of American support for Israel, is not just banding together, which they're clearly doing.

01:13:02.240 They're also siding with the Chinese, which is what Samuel Huntington warned against in 1992

01:13:09.020 or 1994, I believe, blaming excessive liberalism for this.

01:13:14.560 Now what's actually the proximate cause is excessive Zionism. 0.84

01:13:20.320 The recklessness of Israel, the fact that it's threatening everybody around them, is driving this. 1.00

01:13:24.900 And in case you think it's, you know, I'm being unfair, no.

01:13:28.000 The Israelis are saying that everybody in Gaza, in Gaza City, which is in the very north of the Gaza Strip,

01:13:33.300 needs to head south to the Egyptian border, and they are imposing that is going to lead at some point 0.99

01:13:42.420 to them trying to drive the Palestinians over the border into Egypt.

01:13:48.420 And Egypt's trying to stop that by mobilizing troops into the Sinai to try to say to the Israelis,

01:13:54.020 look, you've got to calm down now.

01:13:55.260 You can't just sort of attack us and force these people across the border.

01:13:59.460 But the Israelis are actually doing the same thing in the West Bank.

01:14:03.300 They're doing everything they can to make sure that there is no two-state solution.

01:14:08.580 And they are locking down the West Bank city by city so that each city is its own contained unit

01:14:14.900 and cannot communicate with each other.

01:14:17.420 Meaning that if a war breaks out where they try to sort of get rid of the Palestinians in the West Bank

01:14:24.120 in the same way that they're doing in Gaza, they can do this one city at a time.

01:14:29.960 The implication being that they're threatening Egypt and Jordan. 0.61

01:14:33.300 Which are seen by the Saudis as key allies and necessary for the stability of the region.

01:14:41.320 Which is why after the bombing of Qatar, they announced this defense agreement with Pakistan.

01:14:46.500 They didn't tell the Americans about it until after it was signed.

01:14:49.560 Which I think is quite an important tell.

01:14:55.580 Can I play devil's advocate real quick for a moment?

01:14:58.680 Please.

01:14:58.900 Not that I disagree with you that Zionism seems to be out of control at the moment. 0.99

01:15:03.680 Absolutely agree with you there. 0.98

01:15:05.120 But also just to say, I mean, Hamas are insane terrorists. 0.98

01:15:12.660 Yes. 0.93

01:15:12.980 Like I don't shed a tear for those guys in Doha.

01:15:15.580 Absolutely.

01:15:15.920 You know, and Egypt, like back in the 70s when Sadat made a peace deal with Israel, the Arabs murdered him.

01:15:24.580 Yes.

01:15:25.000 Right. 0.96

01:15:25.240 So the Muslim Brotherhood murdered him.

01:15:26.820 The sort of who are the parents of Hamas. 0.96

01:15:29.340 Well, part of my parent organization.

01:15:31.060 So it's both, both sides.

01:15:34.080 So part of my major concern, outside of just a full-on hot war, escalating into a hot war in the region which Western allies would be drawn into,

01:15:45.940 would be that expelling all of these people into somewhere like Egypt, I can see, and some Israeli ministers have already put this forward as a solution,

01:15:56.040 I could see these people moving through North Africa into Europe as many do.

01:16:03.040 And from that point, they go all across Europe.

01:16:06.080 And what do you get there?

01:16:07.080 Well, you get a lot of men, women, and children, all of whom have been radicalized by what has happened to them.

01:16:14.680 Yes.

01:16:14.880 All of whom blame European countries and the U.S. for being allies to Israel.

01:16:21.140 Correct.

01:16:21.540 Deciding to join cells within those countries that will then go on to commit terror attacks later.

01:16:27.160 Absolutely.

01:16:27.800 That's one of my greatest fears.

01:16:29.480 Absolutely correct.

01:16:30.720 Absolutely correct.

01:16:31.400 So there are several dimensions of this.

01:16:34.900 First of all, the West has an interest in the Muslim world not establishing a network of alliances comparable to NATO. 0.84

01:16:46.760 That's one strategic objective.

01:16:48.840 The second strategic objective is to make sure that they don't all side with China, 0.82

01:16:53.140 because that the natural resources there feed the Chinese industrial machine and make it even stronger.

01:17:00.640 The third is this shouldn't become the West's domestic problem.

01:17:05.960 But you see Israeli politicians saying, well, these people, the Palestinians should be sent to Ireland or the Palestinians should be sent to Spain or the Palestinians should be dispersed all over Western Europe or Australia or what have you.

01:17:17.420 So this has always been an Israeli talking point, and now it's being reinforced a lot from senior people in government in the Israeli government saying, yeah, that's exactly what should happen.

01:17:31.680 It's the West that should take the Palestinians and solve the problem for the Israelis. 1.00

01:17:35.540 So on every level, this is terrible for the West.

01:17:40.380 And this is a direct cost.

01:18:10.380 And the Americans are not willing to do anything about it.

01:18:16.300 And you can have a conspiratorial explanation as to why that is.

01:18:21.680 Another explanation, which was explained to me, I think, by Carl, not I think, which was explained to me by Carl.

01:18:29.080 He made a brilliant point.

01:18:31.380 The Americans view the Israelis through a purely emotional lens.

01:18:35.320 And because they view them through a purely emotional lens as a sort of favorite son, they give them a huge amount of latitude. 0.82

01:18:44.100 But then at some point, there's going to be the realization that that child is a monster.

01:18:49.740 And when that happens, I would argue, the emotional reaction is going to be equally severe and is going to go, we want nothing to do with this.

01:19:02.760 Help us get rid of this thing.

01:19:03.840 And if you look at what was happening with Charlie Kirk, what's happened with Candace Owens, what's happened with Tucker Carlson, they've been increasingly turning against Israel.

01:19:15.200 And this kind of strategic blunder that is civilization shifting, pushing the entirety of the Muslim world into China's arms and into greater unity. 1.00

01:19:29.000 This is going to backfire enormously.

01:19:33.180 And this will eventually turn the West against Israel, much more so than the pro-Palestine leftists, who I have nothing but contempt for as civilization destroyers. 0.74

01:19:44.080 So there's got to be some moderation.

01:19:47.240 But the Israelis seem incapable of doing it. 1.00

01:19:49.800 They seem incapable of just slowing down a little bit.

01:19:53.080 Well, again, on your points of the entire Muslim bloc potentially unifying and allying with other groups, one other reason that we wouldn't want that is if they do unify in such a way and decide that we are their enemies. 0.90

01:20:07.120 In the West, not just in Europe, but also increasingly in America as well, they already have massive Muslim communities in those countries who are going to be far, far more loyal to whatever orders are coming from the East

01:20:22.180 than they are loyal to the countries of occupation that they live in right now.

01:20:27.100 So in, I think...

01:20:28.640 That would be something that worries me.

01:20:30.180 Bo, sorry, but Bo, did you...

01:20:31.640 I was just going to make one point that springs to mind whilst you're talking is that it seems to have been this way for decades.

01:20:38.840 When you're talking about this, like, can America reel in Israel in any real sense? 0.99

01:20:44.400 I'm thinking of the late 60s, early 70s, the LBJ-Nixon years, when Israel was just doing whatever it wanted. 0.93

01:20:52.460 And the United States goes, calm down, stop, stop, until the point where all the Arab countries get together and boycott and do an oil embargo. 0.52

01:21:01.540 And it totally screws America in all sorts of ways. 0.91

01:21:04.280 And America's like saying, please, Israel, can you please stop being so crazy? 0.81

01:21:08.160 And Israel's like, no, we're going to do whatever we want. 0.77

01:21:10.600 Pretty much.

01:21:10.980 And we're still in that situation.

01:21:13.300 So basically, they don't have a lot of experience over generations of being next to other empires that take a long time to wake up.

01:21:25.240 So if you're Germany and you're next to Russia and you were wise as opposed to the current leadership,

01:21:30.340 you'd realize that you don't want to cross the Russians too much because it would trigger a major war. 0.84

01:21:35.400 And if it did trigger a major war, your best interest is probably going to be not to try to invade Moscow,

01:21:41.760 but to keep it on the borders of the two empires and then negotiate a peace afterwards,

01:21:46.980 which is very much how these European empires fought each other, with some exceptions, Napoleon, Hitler, etc.

01:21:54.320 But these are remembered because they're exceptional.

01:21:58.040 The Israelis don't have that kind of historic memory. 0.58

01:22:01.140 And because they don't, because they're new to this game, they think that force is the solution to everything.

01:22:09.000 And their thinking is exactly like that of the left.

01:22:12.020 When we do it, it's all right.

01:22:13.600 But when it's done to us, October 7 is like five bazillion September 11th.

01:22:18.660 Well, okay, obviously it was terrible and it shouldn't have happened, but it's over now.

01:22:25.400 And the war has been going on for two years and you've not gotten anywhere except unifying much bigger neighbors against you

01:22:31.740 and driving them into a block that is completely hostile, not just to you, but to the Western states on whose survival you depend.

01:22:40.320 And the Western states, which your survival depends on.

01:22:46.940 So this is madness and it needs to be stopped.

01:22:54.260 And I'll give it the limitations of time.

01:22:56.840 I'll leave it there.

01:22:57.480 I do remember I read a quote once.

01:22:59.580 I forget if it was from like Clinton or maybe even Johnson, who was a big supporter of Israel.

01:23:06.400 I think he was like their guy, right?

01:23:08.580 He was, he was two thumbs up and they were two thumbs up for him.

01:23:11.460 One of, one of them said, and it was quoted around the time when the Iran situation that was happening earlier this year,

01:23:17.160 that as president, as president, there will come a point where your relations with Israel will just piss you off.

01:23:25.320 There will be no other way to deal with it other than you will just be furiously raging impotently in the Oval Office

01:23:33.560 and there's not much that you can do about it.

01:23:36.400 Well, you could not give them billions of dollars of aid and military assistance every single year.

01:23:43.740 So from the Wall Street Journal, answering that point from the Wall Street Journal about Trump being absolutely enraged with Netanyahu.

01:23:55.960 Another reason for the continued warm relations between Netanyahu and Trump is the Israeli leaders' influence with Congress

01:24:03.300 and in Republican-centric media.

01:24:08.280 This is, the domestic influence affects the foreign policy.

01:24:12.520 I mean, with Trump as well, personally for him, I would imagine also the fact that his daughter's married to Jared Kushner

01:24:17.720 and he has part-Jewish grandchildren is also a big emotional pull for him.

01:24:22.980 Yes, but that also means that if the emotions were to sort of shift, they wouldn't shift gradually.

01:24:29.580 It would be, as a man of, you know, deep emotion and strongly motivated by his feelings and emotions,

01:24:41.040 it's not going to be calibrated when it happens.

01:24:43.980 Yeah, I suppose.

01:24:46.460 You mentioned Candy Sones.

01:24:47.560 I see Candy Sones talking about AIPAC and, like, how, why does this always happen?

01:24:53.680 Because, well, yeah, AIPAC's got loads and loads of congressmen and women in its pocket. 1.00

01:24:58.240 Yep.

01:24:59.120 Loads of them.

01:25:00.280 Yep.

01:25:01.340 Yep.

01:25:02.900 Yeah, you can't really talk about that, apparently.

01:25:05.260 We probably won't put that bit on YouTube.

01:25:07.700 We'll see.

01:25:08.340 Well, I mean, we're on YouTube right now, so we'll see.

01:25:10.460 Oh, yeah, it's live. 1.00

01:25:11.420 Shit. 1.00

01:25:14.680 He's been too comfortable for too long. 1.00

01:25:18.260 I'm only quoting Candy Sones.

01:25:20.180 Yeah.

01:25:21.960 Anyway, I'll read through some of the Rumble rants and Super Chats that we've got here.

01:25:26.400 It seems that this one has been, as you would expect with such a subject, somewhat contentious,

01:25:31.460 so there'll be some questions fielded to you that you can reply to there, Firaz.

01:25:35.640 So, first of all, on YouTube, this is responding to my segment, saying,

01:25:39.260 one in, one out is human laundering, turning illegal immigrants into legal ones. 0.83

01:25:43.280 Exactly.

01:25:43.660 Yeah, pretty much.

01:25:45.320 On to your segment.

01:25:47.020 So, Swamp Cleaner says, if you think Hamas wants a piece of... 0.71

01:25:49.960 Oh, they absolutely don't.

01:25:50.980 I have a bridge to sell you.

01:25:52.220 Yeah, but...

01:25:52.780 No, no, they absolutely don't.

01:25:53.900 Correct me if I'm wrong.

01:25:55.020 I might have been given the complete wrong information.

01:25:57.940 But around the time when Hamas was becoming the de facto leaders of Palestine,

01:26:03.160 was there not Israeli involvement in making sure that they were in that position,

01:26:08.240 or am I completely off-base there?

01:26:09.900 There was some Israeli support for Hamas,

01:26:12.060 and it continued all the way until just before 7 October,

01:26:16.100 when Netanyahu was facilitating payments from the Qataris to go to Hamas,

01:26:21.460 because he thought that this was one way to preserve the peace,

01:26:24.420 and because he thought that having the West Bank under one administration, the PLO,

01:26:29.180 and Gaza under another, Hamas, 0.67

01:26:32.860 meant that he couldn't be pressured to accept a two-state solution.

01:26:37.120 Okay, so divide and conquer.

01:26:38.620 So this was, like, this is well-established,

01:26:41.780 and, like, this isn't even a contentious point.

01:26:43.640 This isn't, you know, this is just facts.

01:26:46.340 And isn't there another angle that before Hamas was sort of the legitimately voted-in rulers

01:26:54.040 of the Gaza Strip?

01:26:55.660 Before that was the case,

01:26:57.480 there was just a whole number of God-knows-what organizations,

01:27:01.160 and Israel would rather have one body that they could sit down and negotiate with,

01:27:06.340 even if it is Hamas.

01:27:08.160 No, no, that's...

01:27:09.700 Like, there was the PLO leading a bunch of other smaller organizations of Hamas.

01:27:14.480 Exactly, but, like, the PLO...

01:27:16.020 So you've got Yasser Arafat sitting at the top of the PLO,

01:27:18.100 and you can talk to him,

01:27:19.740 but then he doesn't control what everyone under him does.

01:27:22.720 Wasn't that the case for, like, the last few years with Yasser Arafat?

01:27:26.760 So there were always dissident Palestinian organizations,

01:27:29.620 but they weren't strong enough to challenge Fatah,

01:27:33.620 which is Arafat's organization,

01:27:36.120 if it decided that it absolutely wanted something.

01:27:38.820 Like, it had the ability to impose

01:27:41.660 on most Palestinian groups with significance,

01:27:45.340 except for a couple that were being funded by the Syrians or the Iraqis, 0.94

01:27:49.680 and these guys were just lunatic radicals on their own.

01:27:54.040 So the Abu Dindal organization being one example of them. 0.56

01:27:57.420 I feel like, you know, Yasser Arafat would agree to something,

01:27:59.800 and then, like, the next day,

01:28:02.140 some other dudes would just... 0.55

01:28:05.160 But anyway, anyway, it's complicated.

01:28:07.140 Yes.

01:28:07.420 It's complicated.

01:28:08.200 Let's carry on with the Rumble Rants.

01:28:09.940 We've had quite a few very generous donations,

01:28:12.540 so thank you to everybody who's sending us money.

01:28:14.620 We really appreciate it.

01:28:16.080 Hope you're getting your money's worth with these discussions.

01:28:18.500 Sigil Stone.

01:28:19.240 Trump's extraordinary weakness on Israel,

01:28:21.220 combined with Netanyahu's bloodthirst,

01:28:22.640 is going to start a huge war.

01:28:23.820 This cannot continue at all costs.

01:28:25.660 Some are predicting that it might end that way.

01:28:27.480 I can only hope to God that it doesn't.

01:28:29.360 Yeah.

01:28:29.720 Habsification. 1.00

01:28:30.320 So the Saudis signed a mutual defense agreement 0.67

01:28:32.500 with an insane Islamist country. 1.00

01:28:34.300 Correct. 0.82

01:28:34.800 Yeah?

01:28:35.260 Correct.

01:28:35.680 Which they really look down on.

01:28:38.160 They don't like...

01:28:39.220 Like, the Saudi-Pakistani relationship is...

01:28:42.120 Eh.

01:28:42.380 Pakistan doesn't seem like a country 1.00

01:28:44.160 with the greatest standing anywhere.

01:28:47.020 No.

01:28:47.440 They've not got the same stripe of Islam, have they?

01:28:50.200 Yes, they do.

01:28:50.960 But Pakistan and Wahhabist. 1.00

01:28:53.060 No.

01:28:53.500 No, right.

01:28:54.400 Pakistan are Sunni, mostly Salafi these days,

01:28:58.680 largely due to Saudi clerical influence.

01:29:01.340 Right.

01:29:02.580 Whereas Afghanistan is more the one that you're thinking about,

01:29:06.300 which has a...

01:29:07.380 Aren't the Saudi... 0.98

01:29:09.420 Aren't the royal Saudi family Wahhabists, though? 0.92

01:29:12.060 Yes.

01:29:12.580 Right.

01:29:12.940 But, you know, to what extent?

01:29:15.260 Like, it's a different conversation.

01:29:16.220 It's a different conversation.

01:29:16.960 Okay, yeah.

01:29:17.440 Another very long, complex thing.

01:29:19.640 Exactly.

01:29:21.520 Right.

01:29:22.160 Brendan Lucas sent two in for $10 each,

01:29:25.960 so thank you very much.

01:29:27.240 If Americans were truly irrational in regards to Israel,

01:29:29.640 why is the $4 billion it pays to Israel

01:29:31.140 marked only for USA equipment?

01:29:32.660 If it was irrational,

01:29:33.500 the money would be unmarked and used to invest in Israel?

01:29:36.620 No.

01:29:37.480 Why would you say that?

01:29:39.460 And following up with that,

01:29:41.060 I'm not unsympathetic to scrutiny over the Israeli relationship,

01:29:45.340 but why not have your guest host say

01:29:46.980 that Jews use children to make their matzah 1.00

01:29:49.020 absolute blood libel rubbish? 0.99

01:29:50.580 I don't see why you need to escalate to that far.

01:29:53.540 I think Firas is being fair and rational in his criticisms

01:29:57.840 of how Israel, as a geopolitical entity,

01:30:01.380 is operating on the geopolitical stage.

01:30:03.360 I've not heard anything that could even be remotely

01:30:05.880 compared to blood libel.

01:30:07.500 So on Firas' behalf,

01:30:08.740 I've got to say that you're being quite hysterical there.

01:30:11.820 Thank you.

01:30:13.160 And Brendan again for $5.

01:30:15.360 And again, he sent quite a few in actually.

01:30:17.640 Okay.

01:30:18.020 Israel has defeated four Arab armies at the same time, 1.00

01:30:20.620 and your fantasy of cowardly Jews 0.99

01:30:22.020 only belies your own Hezbollah allegiance. 1.00

01:30:24.760 We did that before the USA alliance.

01:30:27.880 Okay, again, I don't think that Firas is claiming 0.69

01:30:32.060 that the Jews are being cowardly

01:30:34.840 or sowing any sort of allegiance or support of Hezbollah. 0.97

01:30:39.020 I feel that you're being quite irrational and unfair

01:30:41.700 in these criticisms,

01:30:42.940 and you're kind of plucking them out of thin air.

01:30:45.420 Nothing that has been said today

01:30:46.840 could even remotely support those claims that you're making.

01:30:50.160 That's a random name.

01:30:51.660 I enjoy these segments of Shut It Down.

01:30:53.940 And one more from Brendan.

01:30:57.100 And I don't mean to go hard against you, Brendan.

01:30:59.100 I'm being critical of the specific claims

01:31:02.040 that you're making here,

01:31:02.840 which I don't think are being supported by the segment

01:31:05.540 if you go back and watch it again.

01:31:07.440 There was no Israeli support for Hamas.

01:31:09.140 Hamas ostensibly recognized Israel's congruity in 2017.

01:31:12.800 Hence, Israel released money to them.

01:31:14.580 The money, of course,

01:31:15.320 is a fraction of what Hezbollah and the IRGC gave.

01:31:19.340 So that's more of a factual disagreement there.

01:31:24.040 There's a problem with that

01:31:25.160 because the money from Qatar allowed Hamas 0.64

01:31:27.580 to operate all of the levers of government,

01:31:31.560 whereas the money from the IRGC

01:31:33.720 allowed it to operate as a military entity.

01:31:35.960 If it was operating only as a military entity

01:31:38.300 without being able to run a government,

01:31:40.600 it wouldn't have remained in power in Gaza for that long.

01:31:45.040 So even that is just not like,

01:31:46.900 that's just a wrong assessment of the situation.

01:31:50.260 It's funny, whenever you talk about this,

01:31:52.900 whatever you say,

01:31:54.140 someone accuses you of being either pro-Israel or pro-Islam.

01:31:57.940 I'm anti-both.

01:31:58.740 One way or another.

01:32:00.180 Yeah.

01:32:00.520 It's one of those things where whatever you say,

01:32:03.060 it's like talking about Russia and Ukraine.

01:32:05.100 No matter how reasonable you are about it,

01:32:07.340 you get accused of being something or other.

01:32:10.980 So don't worry about it.

01:32:12.680 Well, happily, Brendan has sent in another $5.

01:32:15.160 Again, thank you very much for your generosity here,

01:32:18.400 despite the disagreements.

01:32:20.080 Says, I'm fine.

01:32:20.980 I am being irrational,

01:32:21.900 but I don't feel like what Firaz is saying is entirely true.

01:32:25.240 I apologize for what I said.

01:32:26.420 Well, thank you.

01:32:26.880 That's a big one.

01:32:27.980 That's very good of you.

01:32:29.020 Thank you very much.

01:32:30.120 And as long as we can keep it to factual disagreements

01:32:33.400 where we can debate the facts.

01:32:34.660 Exactly.

01:32:35.060 I'm absolutely happy.

01:32:36.120 That guy, I'm not sure if it was him,

01:32:38.500 but the whole blood and matzvah thing, I mean. 0.98

01:32:43.020 And also Sigil Stone,

01:32:44.620 I see what you've sent in here as well,

01:32:46.560 but I think now that.

01:32:48.240 Let's resolve this peacefully.

01:32:49.020 Yeah, now that we're resolving this peacefully,

01:32:51.040 thank you very much for the donation.

01:32:52.320 I won't carry on with any of that.

01:32:55.820 Do we have some video comments that we should be going through?

01:33:01.060 Seems we do.

01:33:02.420 It appears so.

01:33:03.640 It looks like we've got three.

01:33:07.600 This is for Sargon. 0.94

01:33:08.640 The reason why I count social media

01:33:10.120 to be one of the modern day cancers

01:33:11.780 is because it is a double-edged sword.

01:33:14.400 Yes, it is an open marketplace of ideas

01:33:16.260 where news and ideas come forth.

01:33:21.100 It has also completely destroyed

01:33:23.680 how humans interact with each other,

01:33:25.880 how men and women have sex,

01:33:28.500 how relationships react,

01:33:30.560 how children view things.

01:33:32.740 You know, all of it has to stem from social media

01:33:35.380 and what is done to the, you know,

01:33:37.120 just our brains.

01:33:38.220 It is not good.

01:33:39.340 Yeah, the addiction to the dopamine hits

01:33:44.180 is really, really, really bad for some people.

01:33:46.880 I did, when I got suspended off of Twitter

01:33:49.740 for two weeks back in July,

01:33:53.120 the cleanse of being just off it for two weeks,

01:33:57.780 I could have jumped back on sooner

01:33:59.600 if I just hadn't appealed the thing that they said

01:34:02.520 that I'd done, which I hadn't done.

01:34:04.740 They were just trying,

01:34:05.460 I just must have been mass reported or something.

01:34:08.340 But the cleanse was well worth it.

01:34:11.380 I have to say, that's from Office Space.

01:34:13.820 Yeah, I'm going to need to go ahead

01:34:15.640 and ask you to whatever.

01:34:16.780 That's the film Office Space.

01:34:17.700 I need to watch it.

01:34:18.240 It's a great one.

01:34:18.720 It's a great one.

01:34:19.140 I really need to watch it.

01:34:20.260 And I just say,

01:34:21.300 I am grateful almost on a daily basis

01:34:23.800 that all of my formative years

01:34:25.580 were without a mobile phone

01:34:27.460 or the internet at all.

01:34:28.300 Yes.

01:34:29.400 I mean, I'm...

01:34:30.200 I was like 19 before I got a mobile phone.

01:34:32.740 I'm just old enough.

01:34:33.360 Thankful for that.

01:34:34.260 I'm thankful for that.

01:34:35.160 I'm just old enough to have similar memories

01:34:37.280 of myself growing up.

01:34:38.480 I went to my friends' houses

01:34:40.340 and knocked on the door.

01:34:41.980 If they called to see if I was free to say hello,

01:34:45.140 they rang the landline

01:34:46.620 from their house's landline.

01:34:48.900 Backwards.

01:34:49.500 As well.

01:34:50.200 So, you know, I'm grateful for all of that too.

01:34:52.540 I'm older than both of you, so...

01:34:53.960 This is one of the memorials

01:34:59.040 that popped up here in Kerrville

01:35:00.540 after the 4th of July floods.

01:35:02.700 The green ribbons are to honor the girls

01:35:05.920 from Camp Mystic who died,

01:35:08.560 the 28 little girls that got swept off

01:35:11.100 into the darkness

01:35:12.060 and drowned in the river

01:35:14.060 and the raging water.

01:35:16.340 And the same monsters

01:35:17.900 that are celebrating Charlie's death

01:35:20.180 said they deserved it

01:35:22.740 because Kerr County votes red.

01:35:26.960 Again, these people,

01:35:28.760 they wear a mask of empathy.

01:35:31.160 They skin- 0.65

01:35:31.840 they skin suit human emotion

01:35:34.320 because we know that on the inside

01:35:36.200 and on the outside,

01:35:37.860 they celebrate bad things

01:35:40.020 happening to good people.

01:35:42.660 I didn't realize the death toll

01:35:44.080 was that big on that.

01:35:45.740 That's horrifying.

01:35:46.760 Or that it was...

01:35:48.420 Yeah, that one...

01:35:50.160 Oh, yeah, terrible, terrible.

01:35:51.700 May they all rest in peace.

01:35:54.140 So it's been about 10 years

01:35:56.300 since Gamergate.

01:35:57.520 Since then,

01:35:58.220 a whole new generation of people

01:35:59.600 have grown up people

01:36:01.340 like this chap here.

01:36:02.660 And apparently,

01:36:03.300 they're not very happy

01:36:03.940 with this online safety act

01:36:05.520 that's causing studios

01:36:07.160 to rethink some of their game features.

01:36:09.380 Those features are things like,

01:36:11.060 you know, chat services

01:36:12.140 so they can actually talk

01:36:13.080 to each other online.

01:36:14.080 In fact,

01:36:15.500 they're so not happy with this

01:36:16.800 that some of them

01:36:17.340 are even referencing Nepal.

01:36:18.800 Is this Gamergate 2.0?

01:36:21.420 I'm going to let you in

01:36:24.860 on a little secret here, buddy.

01:36:27.240 Gamergate never ended.

01:36:29.700 This is all Gamergate.

01:36:31.940 We need to close

01:36:33.920 the Gamergate

01:36:35.100 and all of this chaos

01:36:36.700 will end.

01:36:37.780 Gamergate is a state of mind.

01:36:39.640 Yes.

01:36:40.480 It's a way of being.

01:36:43.240 And I'll read through

01:36:44.340 a few of the comments

01:36:45.060 that we've got on the website.

01:36:46.520 I'll say two each

01:36:47.540 for each segment.

01:36:48.260 I've got to be on at three, so.

01:36:51.420 Well, I'll be very quick.

01:36:53.080 Jimbo G for Bo says,

01:36:54.320 the BBC is reporting

01:36:55.060 that Kimmel simply said

01:36:55.860 that Maga were taking advantage

01:36:56.900 of Kirk's murder,

01:36:57.640 completely left out

01:36:58.420 that he said

01:36:58.880 one of theirs that did it.

01:37:00.660 Yeah, we got the clip.

01:37:01.700 We got the receipt.

01:37:02.460 Mainstream media lies

01:37:03.500 about other

01:37:04.000 mainstream media pundits.

01:37:05.460 It was like the second clip

01:37:06.500 on YouTube shorts.

01:37:07.580 Yeah.

01:37:07.840 What a surprise.

01:37:09.680 Baron Von Warhawk,

01:37:10.340 when it comes to

01:37:10.720 Jimmy Kimmel getting fired,

01:37:11.640 I'm guessing the studio

01:37:12.260 was looking for any excuses

01:37:13.280 to get rid of him

01:37:13.940 due to low ratings

01:37:15.020 and this was good enough.

01:37:15.860 I did hear a rumour

01:37:16.860 that he was told

01:37:17.940 that if he apologised

01:37:19.120 they would let him stay

01:37:20.060 and he refused.

01:37:20.900 I don't know how true

01:37:21.740 that is, though.

01:37:22.960 On my segment,

01:37:23.740 Sophie Liv,

01:37:24.300 don't you guys love

01:37:25.000 that your taxes

01:37:25.540 are going to be raised

01:37:26.440 further to pay for this?

01:37:28.000 I hate the government. 1.00

01:37:30.040 I fucking despise 1.00

01:37:32.360 the government. 1.00

01:37:33.520 Anyway,

01:37:34.200 someone online,

01:37:34.900 paint the St. George's flag

01:37:36.020 on their camper's tents

01:37:37.120 and they'll get cleared off.

01:37:38.720 Ha! 0.89

01:37:40.140 And for Fires' segment,

01:37:44.020 Roman Observer,

01:37:45.220 Israel seems to be counting 1.00

01:37:46.120 on the slow reaction

01:37:46.860 of the West

01:37:47.520 to do as much damage

01:37:48.420 as possible

01:37:48.900 before having to say sorry.

01:37:51.640 And then,

01:37:52.720 someone online,

01:37:53.660 as an American,

01:37:54.320 the important thing

01:37:54.900 is that we stay out

01:37:55.800 of whatever happens.

01:37:56.920 I do not care.

01:37:58.460 There we go.

01:37:58.980 And with that,

01:38:00.380 I'm going to call it,

01:38:02.360 call an end to this.

01:38:03.920 Thank you very,

01:38:04.480 very much for watching

01:38:05.680 and joining us.

01:38:06.680 We'll be back again tomorrow.

01:38:08.040 Beau is doing something

01:38:09.300 at three.

01:38:10.340 Yeah,

01:38:10.760 I was just recording

01:38:11.540 a Brokonomics with Dan.

01:38:12.540 Oh,

01:38:13.020 well,

01:38:13.120 you can look forward

01:38:13.940 to that when it's eventually

01:38:15.040 edited and put out.

01:38:16.460 Thank you very much.

01:38:17.400 I think we've had

01:38:17.840 some very interesting

01:38:18.460 discussions today,

01:38:19.340 gentlemen.

01:38:19.940 Definitely.

01:38:20.580 And we'll see you again tomorrow.

01:38:22.000 Take care.

01:38:22.400 Thank you very much.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 18, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1255

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