The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 23, 2025


The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1258


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 31 minutes

Words per Minute

167.66257

Word Count

15,292

Sentence Count

30

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1258 for Tuesday the 23rd of
00:00:06.660 September 2025. I'm your host Luca joined today by the Stelios. Hello everyone. And returning
00:00:13.440 returning returning guest ever returning guest Josh how are you? Hello and and to be clear to
00:00:19.980 all the people dragging me up on this I said I'd be back I come back and everyone's just like you
00:00:25.500 were meant to leave and now it just feels like no one wants me anymore so be nice. No we're very
00:00:29.900 glad to have you Josh. We promise. Oh now push me off the set. Today we're going to be talking about
00:00:37.420 the uh Dutch anti-immigration riots we're then going to be talking about Trump's autism action plan
00:00:44.300 uh and then look at me and then we're going to be talking about the the worst cancellation
00:00:50.520 of all time. Yeah and also the apocalypse that has been averted. Right okay good. There's going to be
00:00:57.660 an apocalypse. Because the world would have been destroyed. Hmm well I'm all for avoiding
00:01:03.000 apocalypses so let's see what comes of that. Anyway later would have consumed all. Away from uh whatever
00:01:09.320 advice Trump is giving about autism allow me to give you some good health advice which is to buy
00:01:16.040 Islander magazine. I am told it is the final week now uh that you can get it when we said that they
00:01:22.160 were running out we meant it and now it's all coming to a very melancholy end so go and pick
00:01:28.100 it up for £14.99 on the website plus the postage and the packaging. All right Josh over to you.
00:01:35.360 Okay so the Netherlands is obviously a very nice country. Everything's very sort of neat orderly
00:01:42.920 law-abiding. Look at it. It looks lovely. It looks like a postcard doesn't it and this is sort of...
00:01:47.160 I don't like bikes though. That that is the one drawback for an Englishman having to dodge all the
00:01:51.640 cyclists is a bit frustrating but it does mean that you don't get run over by cars so the limit
00:01:56.700 you know the limitation of getting hurt is pretty good but I've been there I really liked it it's the
00:02:02.240 sort of the closest I've felt uh to being at home away from home and uh of course normally it stays like
00:02:10.420 this but then this happened what happened is this is an anti-immigration protest and those are the
00:02:19.940 police and what is happening is they are running away is it uh could it be that the Dutch have had
00:02:29.960 enough thank you is it that slop account over there is it that Dutch patriots educate police vehicle
00:02:37.980 because education is important all the buzzwords in didn't you no um we're gonna be talking about
00:02:45.480 what it is in a second but I'm just gonna show you some footage and then we'll explain what's going
00:02:49.000 on so here's some more um sorry if it's a little bit loud but riots often are oh it's all been muted
00:02:58.060 at least on our end they seem angry a bit don't they just a touch yeah but as you can see they're
00:03:08.260 attacking the police van van and they're having to flee and here they're chanting we are the
00:03:13.620 Netherlands I'm not sure if you can hear it but we cannot um is it is it muted Samson or is that
00:03:19.720 just on our end I can't hear it either Samson has has unmuted this end and uh I think there's one
00:03:26.700 more here um where we can hear it and this is them I think turning over a set on fire police car
00:03:40.240 so this is hardly the sort of peaceful idyllic law-abiding stuff that we're used to seeing and
00:03:47.680 of course um the Dutch are sort of similar to the British in the fact that they've got their football
00:03:52.040 hooligans and there may be some overlap here but it is a little bit surprising that this has happened
00:03:57.180 because um to an outside observer it seems to have come from nowhere you'd expect this from France you
00:04:02.960 wouldn't expect it from the Dutch no you wouldn't um it's sort of similar to Germany in a way that
00:04:08.340 people generally speaking abide by the law and are quite neat and tidy and orderly and that's a good
00:04:14.340 thing right it's an admirable way to conduct yourself um but this was an anti-immigration
00:04:21.660 protest outside uh Den Haag or The Hague and this is the seat of the Dutch parliament if you're not aware
00:04:28.940 and 30 people were arrested and two officers were injured and I'm going to pronounce his name uh in
00:04:35.920 the original Dutch first before uh saying it in English so everyone else understands but
00:04:40.620 he had wilders I think I didn't do the you also did with a hand
00:04:44.880 it's a bit like dice
00:04:50.860 I think I should be speaking Italian with that amount of hand motion but
00:04:56.200 um he was invited and he declined to speak there um I don't know whether he thought it might end up
00:05:03.580 this way but it was a rainy day in a field so maybe it was just that he didn't fancy it but
00:05:10.040 another thing that happened um which I've not been able to find video footage of but it is claimed
00:05:14.200 to have happened is 1,500 people blocked a highway crossing the city and this has been met with lots
00:05:23.000 of condemnation because of course um fighting the police isn't exactly a productive way to limit
00:05:29.120 immigration is it generally speaking um this sort of thing doesn't play well optically and although I
00:05:36.020 can certainly understand the anger and frustration because I care a lot about um immigration as well
00:05:41.720 and and I imagine that they're probably going to have lots of similar arguments that I might have
00:05:46.220 about high rates of crime and uh financial burdens etc but it doesn't necessarily help things by doing
00:05:54.280 this and I think uh Wilders has gone down a similar line here and to translate the Dutch here he says
00:06:01.760 tackle that scum with an iron fist blocking the highway and violence against the police
00:06:05.600 are totally but really totally unacceptable idiots so um it's pretty strong words isn't it yeah there's
00:06:13.860 and um if um if a lot of those people are rioting over anti-immigration then obviously it's
00:06:21.180 Port Wilder's in a position where he's having to crack down on his own supporters right yeah because
00:06:26.820 what is going to be done and has been done I'll show you in a second is that they're going to say
00:06:32.060 listen you're the person that's creating the environment where this happens and so he's got
00:06:37.780 to toe this narrow line because he's at the minute doing quite well politically and he doesn't want to
00:06:43.600 upset that by being seen as a rabble rouser and things like that so it has a chance of actually
00:06:49.800 impeding proper improvements to the country potentially so I think that that's part of the reason why he's so
00:06:55.820 frustrated as well as the fact that obviously it's a breakdown of law and order that's not
00:07:01.020 exactly ideal and then again this is um quoting an article calling it uh football hooligans I don't
00:07:07.780 know whether they were football hooligans I could sort of see where they might be coming from but it's
00:07:12.840 a little bit difficult to guess um on those sorts of things I mean also just because you like football
00:07:19.560 and do some hooliganism doesn't mean you're necessarily a football hooligan um but it's
00:07:24.760 by the by right it's not that these technicalities are lost on me as uh neither a fan of football or
00:07:30.060 hooliganism which one do you prefer more Luca um I can't say live on YouTube fair enough but um
00:07:37.720 he's calling them football hooligans and Wilders is calling them um he's saying uh pick them up
00:07:43.340 lock lock away and throw away the key scum so it can't really get any stronger than that you know
00:07:48.900 what what happens in this case is that Wilders is thinking of uh his political constituency and of
00:07:56.860 the fact that as you said he's doing well and the whole battle the whole effort is to try and convince
00:08:04.540 the majority the silent majority that one side is the side of law and order and the other side is
00:08:12.600 basically completely against civilization as we know it and as the Dutch want it so this is
00:08:20.040 counterproductive it doesn't help yes and it's made even harder by the nature of the proportional
00:08:26.320 representation system where all the other parties will be allied against him yeah on the other hand
00:08:30.940 there is also the possibility I don't know to what extent this happened because I've only saw the
00:08:36.040 videos from you know slop accounts as you said in the beginning when we were you know joking about
00:08:40.600 you know how these accounts are describing things but there is always a possibility of agent provocateurs
00:08:46.740 I've seen people talking about this and this is actually something that you've you got it exactly
00:08:51.720 right where I wanted to mention it so well done Stelios um is that I saw lots of people who either
00:08:57.180 claimed to be there or know some of the people involved saying that there were either like left
00:09:02.800 wing adjutants or um anti-far people and I don't know how true that is but I would be remiss not to
00:09:09.720 mention it that it's being circulated um but it's one of those things that's so difficult to prove that
00:09:14.920 we can't know one way or the other I suppose if there's video footage of someone who seems like
00:09:20.160 they're not part of the protest they just sort of walk out out of nowhere and then start causing
00:09:26.000 trouble then there might be a bit of a stronger case but of course with these sorts of things
00:09:31.220 it's always very difficult to piece together what has actually happened because of course
00:09:34.980 um there's no real video of what started this off because it did start off as a peaceful protest
00:09:41.440 and turned into a riot not sure how it got to that point whether it was police provocation
00:09:47.060 or you know the protesters at the time um it's difficult to tell um but anyway let's go on to what
00:09:55.400 the leader of the green labor party alliance says so he's talking about there being nsb flags um in
00:10:04.380 that field there which of course national socialist so he's trying to suggest a link between being
00:10:11.040 anti-immigration and the mid-century journey he's talking about extreme rights there we haven't
00:10:17.260 translated it yet it's all right but i guess extreme rechts is yep so violence against the police by
00:10:24.480 the far right unacceptable these are trumpian conditions fueled by politicians who sow fear
00:10:29.800 and division and this is this this argument which is a load of nonsense that by talking about
00:10:34.940 immigration and talking about resolving it politically and civilly and through the democratic process
00:10:42.060 that ultimately results in violence because that's not true and in fact it's the opposite if you
00:10:47.520 don't do anything about it you make violence more likely because people feel like the political
00:10:52.520 system isn't solving it and i think actually these sorts of people are ramping up the temperature
00:10:58.840 of their respective countries because this isn't just restricted to the netherlands it's in the us
00:11:03.560 it's in the uk it's all over europe people trying to um suggest that legitimate criticisms about
00:11:09.860 immigration are wrong and they're not in fact they're very morally right if you like preventing crime
00:11:16.380 for example if you like not having your wealth extracted out of your country these are good and moral
00:11:21.380 things and not having your culture liquidated exactly yes these um this sort of rhetoric though i mean
00:11:28.260 this has been going on for as long as the problems have been going on when you when you
00:11:31.940 actually look back even into the 1960s and the 1970s you can only just look with frustration at how
00:11:38.900 little the dialogue has actually shifted certainly from the left who have never adapted once to the changing
00:11:46.660 times to the changing conditions you uh you just sorry just quickly to say you have um exactly this
00:11:53.060 point that um jonathan miller made to we not powell on a television debate where he was saying look
00:11:59.220 powell it's really simple if you just didn't voice these concerns then people wouldn't be concerned about
00:12:05.700 it which is exactly the thing that timmermans is saying here it's total nonsense but the the issue is that
00:12:12.020 the left is focused on a top-down way of of approach because that's how they that's how it always
00:12:21.140 was historically speaking it's this grundled industrialists who turned against the industry
00:12:27.300 the capitalists by trying to tell to the workers what their interest is and then when they're they were a
00:12:34.820 second before gaining power suddenly there was a vanguard party to tell the working class what their real
00:12:40.980 interest is the left works this way and it projects that's why they told they tell everyone if you
00:12:47.140 stop talking about this yeah people will stop that then you won't see the reality in front of your own
00:12:53.140 eyes yeah they they believe that it's the media and uh prominent political figures that tell people
00:12:59.380 what to believe and that people are just you know a sponge that absorb other people's opinions rather
00:13:04.660 than seeing things with their own eyes most people i know that are anti-immigration have stories
00:13:09.700 where they've personally experienced the the um sort of negative effects of it or know people who
00:13:15.460 have or have witnessed it with their own eyes it's it a lot of it is actually first-hand evidence that
00:13:21.460 can't be denied well as as he says here as well these are trumpian conditions fueled by politicians who
00:13:27.220 sow fear and division okay so to moments like if um if donald trump was president of the united states
00:13:34.500 but the netherlands was an homogeneous country would these riots have happened even though less or more
00:13:42.340 likely right it's like obviously but it's obviously your own yeah yeah it's also that you know if you
00:13:48.740 want if you don't want another weimar stop being a pathetically weak government that's also a very good
00:13:55.220 point i very much agree but why are these riots and protests actually going on at the minute well we need to
00:14:00.980 go back to june of this year and uh the dutch government collapsed after wilders um quits the
00:14:08.980 coalition and it was in place for less than a year um one of the terms of the coalition was that he could
00:14:15.620 not be prime minister and so they actually got someone who was outside of government i think he was an
00:14:19.460 academic gentleman by the name of dick schoof uh which is an interesting name um doesn't travel quite
00:14:25.860 well across uh to britain um but it collapsed because he was pushing a 10 additional asylum
00:14:33.620 measures including a freeze on applications halting the construction of reception centers and limiting
00:14:38.180 family reunification to just name a couple these are pretty moderate things really this is only asylum
00:14:45.140 seekers and it's not saying yes we can't have any more applications but it's not saying every single
00:14:50.820 one of you needs to go which actually i think is probably the best way forward but uh he sort of
00:14:57.940 had his hands tied there didn't he because that's what he was elected to do to to get these people out
00:15:03.780 of the country and if you can't do it then there's no point being part of the government so i understand
00:15:08.420 uh why he quit the coalition and you want to disassociate yourself entirely from what are going to be the
00:15:14.820 the ruling party's failures exactly and that's for a while it's not just the last week that's for
00:15:20.100 for some time now isn't it that he has quit yeah this was back in june yeah third of june
00:15:25.540 and then this uh triggered a snap election which is set for the 29th of october
00:15:30.820 and then as this is talking about here this was i think polling from the end of august so
00:15:37.780 just under a month ago um still leading in the polls two months before the vote at the time
00:15:42.980 he's still leading now he's still doing very well and i think if anything he's going to do better
00:15:46.420 and better as time goes on because the problems that he um represents the solution for are only
00:15:53.060 getting worse and although um he might not be an ideal candidate because he has very strong opinions
00:15:59.540 on israel palestine that i think might put off some left-wingers obviously as well as some right-wingers
00:16:06.100 i'm not necessarily i feel like europe has to be focusing on itself and not internationally and i
00:16:12.740 do question um this diversion but it's a price worth paying i think in the sense of it's better to try and
00:16:21.460 save your own people and your own country first before you uh start caring about other countries
00:16:28.100 self-preservation right it's not exactly that radical um another thing that i've seen going around is
00:16:34.180 they've been trying to encourage moroccans to uh sway the election because normally they're quite
00:16:39.700 politically inactive um and inactive in general it seems other than crime uh which i'll be getting on
00:16:46.180 to um they have in the netherlands a disproportionate number of indonesians um anyone know why on the
00:16:53.220 panel i'm sure people in the audience might empire surely yes well done luca that they're a former
00:16:58.020 colony so it sort of makes some degree of sense why they would be overrepresented doesn't necessarily
00:17:03.140 mean they have to be there but it makes sense why they would be um and also moroccans and i'm not
00:17:09.060 sure for what reason that is um but they are the second largest minority and so i think the labour
00:17:15.940 party green coalition is looking for their votes and these groups tend not to cause as many issues as
00:17:23.540 some of the groups in britain do um although particularly the moroccans are associated with trouble
00:17:29.780 and i'm going to go quickly to this government report from 2016 this is government data their
00:17:35.620 own statistics um i'll just scroll down if i can um it's got lots and lots of stuff um okay but this is
00:17:45.380 the most recent example i could think find in 2015 individuals with a moroccan background were roughly
00:17:50.420 five times as likely to have been suspected of a crime compared to the native dutch it is uh 4.64 percent to
00:17:58.180 0.83 percent and this is of course probably got even worse as time goes on because if it mirrors
00:18:04.500 that of other european countries their over-representation will only go up and then for
00:18:09.300 moroccans aged between 18 to 25 one in 10 have been suspected of a crime and that's just suspected
00:18:15.380 of course that's not prosecuted that's not proven but it also might suggest that more people have been
00:18:20.820 committed um more people have been committing crimes sorry but it just hasn't been linked to anyone
00:18:27.540 and so it could be worse it could be better it's difficult to tell because it's only suspects
00:18:32.500 but it's still a very alarming figure it suggests a very real material measurable problem based on data
00:18:39.220 is not people sensationalizing it is a problem that has a tangible effect on people that live in the
00:18:44.820 netherlands and they are right to be angry about it let's have a look at some instances of problems and
00:18:50.820 they're not as severe as some european countries but here are some syrian children throwing water
00:18:56.500 balloons they don't have to become as severe yes of course there's still problems right but these
00:19:02.180 syrian children been invited into the country presumably under the auspice of their safety and
00:19:07.380 they're repaying the locals by throwing water balloons that don't seem to be bursting so they might be quite
00:19:12.820 hard and painful young dutch women this sort of thing shouldn't be tolerated um it's not just
00:19:21.460 children having fun it's part of a climate of hostility um i'm not just saying this flippantly it's pretty
00:19:27.460 obvious um considering um how many syrians have behaved in europe you know involved in many killings
00:19:34.740 of european peoples and um here's another one that's worth mentioning um the crime and the nature of
00:19:42.900 crime is escalating in the netherlands no details have been released about this because it's involving
00:19:47.140 a 15 year old boy but it's also worth mentioning that the dutch police don't necessarily mess around
00:19:51.860 either so this is from the past weekend uh the 21st of september uh this 15 year old armed with a
00:19:59.300 handgun tried to steal an electric bike um and he was pursued he refused to give up and the dutch police
00:20:07.620 shot him dead apparently in front of many children so they they take it very seriously um and of course
00:20:14.020 gun crime is something that's not common in the netherlands really not common in britain either but is
00:20:19.060 increasing and it is increasing um because we have more porous borders and it might not necessarily
00:20:26.740 have been someone who migrated to the netherlands because we don't know the details of the person
00:20:31.060 but what we do know is that by having these routes of people illegally entering the country as well as
00:20:37.140 the legal connections that are already there it makes it easier to ferry weapons into a country
00:20:41.540 and what we're seeing is an explosion of gun violence in europe where it was previously somewhat
00:20:47.860 unheard of you know it did happen every now and then but it's very rare i think in britain um
00:20:54.340 you know before mass migration we can pretty much name every single instance of there being gun
00:20:59.300 violence by name and and it's it's etched into our consciousness because it was so rare it was so
00:21:06.100 unheard of and it'd be in the news for weeks and uh now it's just another weekend story and this is
00:21:12.820 obviously a very tragic thing and although the police you know shoot people in the netherlands
00:21:19.860 they also do silly things like this this is what i've dubbed the pole of color blindness so they're
00:21:25.060 using a button on a pole that randomly decides to check people or not um to avoid ethnic profiling and
00:21:34.260 here's the thing i think that it's good to notice patterns in crime because once you notice the
00:21:39.300 kinds of people that perpetrate crime you're more effective at directing your limited resources to
00:21:43.940 combating it you need ethnic profiling to do a better job at policing it might make people uncomfortable
00:21:49.860 but that's the price you have to pay if you want a safe society feelings shouldn't come over the
00:21:54.500 safety of your own people it's pretty obvious right and uh i think the most egregious in recent
00:22:01.940 times is this of the the case of lisa 17 year old girl who's riding her bike back home from a party in
00:22:08.340 amsterdam and she called the police to tell them that she was being followed and then seconds later
00:22:13.140 the dispatcher could hear her screaming for help as the migrant started stabbing her in the neck
00:22:17.780 seemingly for absolutely no reason whatsoever well you cover that on the previous segment didn't you
00:22:22.740 just totally unprovoked murders and the 22 year old asylum seeker so yes they've come to seek
00:22:29.380 asylum apparently um had raped another young girl five days earlier and was behind and attempted
00:22:35.860 sexual assault on another girl 10 days earlier these are the people you're inviting in your country
00:22:40.500 so i entirely understand why people are very angry about it and want something to be done about it
00:22:46.100 and uh one final thing i wanted to touch on um just to correct the record is this um some slop that
00:22:53.700 needs correcting um it was reported the netherlands parliament just voted to designate antifa as a
00:23:00.900 terrorist organization following trump's lead and this is actually not the case and i hate to resort
00:23:06.260 oh well didn't stop it getting a hundred thousand likes so did it i know but the person sharing that
00:23:13.300 doesn't understand that um as it explains here um it the dutch parliament only passes a motion um it only
00:23:21.060 passed as a motion requesting that the government do that and motions in parliament are basically
00:23:26.260 talking points and do not oblige the government to do anything and so all they said is it would be
00:23:31.780 good if you could do this please and you know if wilders does get in again i'm sure he'd be quite
00:23:37.380 receptive to it but it hasn't happened yet but what is going on and what could make this redundant
00:23:43.300 is that hungary is urging the eu to designate antifa as a terrorist group
00:23:47.620 and of course um well done hungary as as usual um but because the netherlands is a member of the eu
00:23:55.140 this would apply to them anyway so it could be the case that if this does go through um the eu
00:24:00.260 parliament then it wouldn't need to go through the dutch one but with all of that out of the way
00:24:07.060 um extender nederlanders and uh to the rest of you um yes i support the dutch people i think they've
00:24:14.260 got a very good and noble country beautiful everything works very orderly and i think that
00:24:20.660 you have a right to preserve it and i wish you all the best i've never been you know always meant to
00:24:27.700 just never got around to it my advice is um go to holland but don't go to amsterdam there's a place
00:24:34.340 right alkmaar um or or harlem not like the new york one yeah um that are similar to amsterdam but
00:24:40.980 less touristy and a little bit less busy and you know how tourist traps can be in in european
00:24:46.100 countries where it's just set up to exploit you yeah yeah well we know all about being exploited
00:24:52.500 don't we uh we've got just some rumble rants from oh of course uh yeah sure do you want to go from
00:24:58.340 oh yeah your segment um oph uk uh there's a girl who got raped by a muslim invader near azc um
00:25:06.340 asylum seeker center in nl her father tried to get publicity he was arrested the asylum seeker
00:25:11.780 did it was moved to another facility um and then they say a girl in my city was gang
00:25:19.380 thingied yeah i know i forgot we're on youtube by three moroccans as long um the trial was going on
00:25:26.100 there were moroccans parked across from where she lived to intimidate her and her family
00:25:29.940 police wouldn't do anything yes it's a really appalling situation and i don't wish it on anyone
00:25:35.460 least of all um people so undeserving and and all the establishment will do is just moralize that
00:25:41.380 the people who do claim they'll fix the problem for you ryan uh hennigan says people who commit
00:25:46.340 violent felonies against citizens while seeking uh granted asylum should be returned to the
00:25:50.740 governments they are fleeing i would say that is uh the most charitable thing you could do um for them
00:25:56.900 and we've got one on youtube here um luke stewart says i personally think autism is genetic my dad
00:26:04.420 um likely is autistic as well but unlike me he was born into a country that wasn't destroyed by
00:26:10.020 globalism and free trade but if pregnant mums stop taking painkillers for a quick fix well well
00:26:17.060 we'll talk about it now we shall all right brothers sisters lament with me for the the golden age of
00:26:25.460 autism may be coming to an end how do we can do now how do we feel about this this news gentlemen
00:26:32.420 i want to hear it it surprised me is what i thought of it when i read it i was just like
00:26:38.020 surely that can't be the case and i did some digging yes i was just like okay well it surprised
00:26:43.700 me too and i suppose what surprised me even more than the news itself was that trump decided to
00:26:49.860 announce this of at all times at um charlie kirk's funeral uh when he just dropped this nugget
00:26:59.780 and tomorrow we're going to have one of the biggest announcement really medically i think in the
00:27:06.420 history of our country we're going to be doing it with bobby and oz and all of the professionals i
00:27:13.620 think you're going to find it to be amazing i think we found an answer to autism how about that
00:27:21.780 autism tomorrow we're going to be talking in the oval office in the white house
00:27:29.780 and that seems to have been exactly what they went on to do um because as it turns out you can just do
00:27:36.180 things and if donald trump wants to ban autism from america then let him ban autism from america
00:27:43.540 um obviously just um uh just an s post but you have dragged that one the wrong way if you have
00:27:53.220 here everyone should be grateful for those who are trying to get the answers to this
00:27:59.140 complex situation and the first day all of these great doctors behind me were there i i told them this
00:28:06.660 is what we got we have to find out because when you go from 20 000 to 10 000 and then you go to 12
00:28:16.180 you know there's something artificial they're taking something and by the way i think i can say
00:28:21.540 that there are certain groups of people that don't take vaccines and don't take any pills that have
00:28:26.660 no autism that have no autism does that tell you so because we're on youtube as well i just want to say
00:28:35.380 i'm not offering an opinion on whether or what you know is apparently trump's alleged claims about
00:28:44.260 vaccines and autism i'm just merely reporting on what's being said yeah i think that the link between
00:28:50.420 the two um the the researcher that published the original paper was found to have made up the results
00:28:55.620 and lost his license to practice and admitted to it as well after the fact so i don't think that that link
00:29:01.620 is necessarily true and also my understanding as a psychologist is that it's a largely heritable
00:29:07.620 condition meaning that it it has links in family lines right and so i'm not entirely convinced that
00:29:14.820 there is an environmental cause behind it i think that it could be entirely genetic plus a few sort of
00:29:22.420 extraneous variables that might make the onset of more severe symptoms if you will more noticeable
00:29:32.180 but at the same time i i i don't think that this needs much explanation i think it's something
00:29:39.540 that's always been present there's also the the notion that maybe how we're measuring it has changed
00:29:45.700 which it has you know i know all about how it is measured and we have changed how it is measured
00:29:51.620 there is more awareness of the condition now and so it doesn't necessarily mean that there is a growing
00:29:58.100 population of these people it means that the number of people we have measured with it has grown and
00:30:03.860 i think what trump was alluding to is there are populations that don't have the condition but it
00:30:10.020 could be that they have a culture whereby they don't see it as a problem and i would i would also like
00:30:16.900 to sort of put up a little bit of a defense because it's talked about as this medical thing and it
00:30:21.300 obviously it is debilitating in the sense that it can be a social impairment
00:30:24.660 but there there is an argument in evolutionary psychology that having people who think slightly
00:30:30.420 differently and slightly more systematically benefits the group as a whole and therefore
00:30:36.100 it benefits their survival as well as other people to have these sorts of people around and you only
00:30:40.900 need to look at um you know some of the people who are pushing the frontiers of human excellence to
00:30:47.940 to see that actually there's a disproportionate number of autistic people there who are obsessed
00:30:53.700 about a specific area and doing some great work to push the frontiers of of humanity and absolutely
00:31:01.460 and that's a good thing so i don't want it to all sound negative i think that it's you know i've got
00:31:07.380 some in my family i'm not though no no no be clear as um but i think it's not necessarily something that
00:31:14.020 needs to be you know a death sentence or something to be terribly concerned about plenty of people can
00:31:19.140 live normal lives and i think there's an example of someone a university professor who was a psychologist
00:31:25.460 herself um who nobody could even tell that she had autism because she basically wrote learned how to
00:31:33.300 respond to certain things and lived a perfectly normal life so it's entirely possible i think the way
00:31:39.620 that um they have handled it isn't particularly good because when you are making really large
00:31:46.900 announcements about you know conditions and medical conditions you you announce the results
00:31:55.460 you don't announce that we may have found an avenue which we are going to start an experiment
00:32:00.900 and see how it goes and maybe the experiment will work you need to have results
00:32:05.700 yeah seems to me that this was a this was a mistake yeah well i could i can certainly um agree
00:32:13.780 to that you can see here as well josh what you were saying about the fact that um it seems to be more
00:32:19.220 and more diagnosable and that you know this the whole thing about because this is what trump cites in
00:32:23.940 it the fact that well in the year 2000 it was one in 150 people and now today it's one in uh one out of 31
00:32:32.980 yeah it could be over diagnosis in that people are wrapped up in it that are in a normal spectrum
00:32:38.580 of of thought or it could be that we're just more aware of it these don't necessarily have to have
00:32:45.700 a external cause and i think that this is something that needs to be investigated and you can't jump to
00:32:51.140 conclusions about because it's very serious and you you know if you get carried away you could end up
00:32:56.580 hurting more people than you help and i'll just play this from rfk i have instructed nih fda and cms
00:33:05.540 to help doctors to treat children appropriately j will help tell that story which started with sound
00:33:12.260 science the kind that restores faith in government the announcement of this announcement also represents
00:33:19.940 a historic collaboration between nih fda cdc and cms we expect this to be the first of many
00:33:28.500 announcements over the coming years that deliver actionable information to parents on underlying
00:33:34.660 cause of autism and the potential paths for prevention and reversal so you can see this is um the
00:33:42.020 framing here is about giving greater transparency between what goes into the medication and apparently
00:33:48.740 what is what is causing some problems and medication so the the thing that everyone is focusing on
00:33:53.860 is of course tylenol uh meaning paracetamol and um a particular um particular thing in inside the
00:34:02.820 paracetamol called and anti sir i've lost the word here sorry on my it's too too many syllables for me
00:34:09.140 to pronounce but should i have a look thank you yes the um talks about this thing and that because the
00:34:16.900 concern is from their point of view what they are saying is that pregnant women are taking paracetamol
00:34:25.380 for pregnancy pains as a as a painkiller and the par this particular thing within the paracetamol is
00:34:32.580 reacting to it and get causing autism now this is not them saying that this is the one cause they're not
00:34:43.380 saying that this this one little thing is what was plaguing us this entire time but they are saying
00:34:49.140 they do believe it to be a cause and so what they are interested in setting out is a drug called uh
00:34:56.580 lucovarin and which is typically used to treat the side effects for medical conditions and they want to
00:35:04.260 use this i will say that from my perspective because i'm a known you know scientist of sorts
00:35:10.180 uh i'm very strict on this and um i require years and years and years of research before people make
00:35:20.260 statements of the sort because just uh turning this into a political thing doesn't seem to me to be a
00:35:26.260 good idea because as you said they're saying there may be a high correlation between this condition
00:35:34.180 autism and paracetamol because there's one of these factors all the you know there are there's a
00:35:42.100 myriad of factors that may be affecting us correlation also doesn't equal causation also so it could be the
00:35:49.460 the fact that um women who um are pregnant with you know autistic children have more complications in
00:35:58.260 pregnancy generally just as it could be all sorts of other factors and therefore they're more likely to
00:36:03.060 seek these things out there are lots of different uh possible explanations that should be explored
00:36:08.260 before people jump to conclusions this is one of the things that they say as well isn't it that the
00:36:13.540 the high fevers that women can experience during pregnancy the paracetamol helps with that bringing
00:36:19.460 the fevers down and the fevers could in some way obviously put undue stress onto the child well one of
00:36:26.260 the things that um i was able to identify studying psychology was that um in utero illnesses shape
00:36:33.940 lots of potential disorders and it could be the illness itself rather than the treatment right
00:36:38.820 that is the thing that's causing these sorts of things it's also worth mentioning as well that
00:36:43.620 autism is an interesting um disorder more generally because it's sort of diametrically opposed
00:36:49.540 to schizophrenia which is why the two tend not to co-occur with one another in the areas of the brain where
00:36:54.660 um they're overactive in schizophrenia and overstimulated where they're generating things that aren't
00:37:00.100 actually there they're under stimulated in autism and you know it seems to and that's another heritable
00:37:07.220 condition schizophrenia and if these two are sort of opposites um in terms of neurology then these seem
00:37:14.420 to suggest a more biological basis or at least you know a sizable influence of biology before these external
00:37:22.020 variables should be considered one of one other thing that i just wanted to add with all of this
00:37:28.660 as well is the fact that i think that and as i say i am no expert in this i just merely wanted to report
00:37:36.260 that this is something that the white house are putting out of course and uh this is a route that
00:37:40.740 they're going down but i do believe that um we can't lose sight as well of the fact that we're coming
00:37:48.500 out of uh a pandemic and the lockdowns right and there are a lot of narratives going around during
00:37:55.700 the lockdowns that people found many many uh sometimes justifiable reasons to be skeptical about
00:38:02.340 and uh let's just say that um the pandemic wasn't exactly a golden era for trust in big pharma and
00:38:12.340 to clarify what i was saying as well um i do want more transparency about medication i think that's
00:38:17.380 actually a really big and important thing because i think at the minute um things are passed too quickly
00:38:23.700 into the hands of the public and i think that more testing does need to be done in lots of different
00:38:28.980 areas because i think that the urgency aspect although it is important to get medication to
00:38:34.340 people who need it we do need to make sure that the harm doesn't outweigh the benefits exactly and i
00:38:41.540 want to say something that some may not want to hear but the fact that so-called experts made huge
00:38:49.060 mistakes and sort of discredited some institutions doesn't mean that we can dispense with expertise
00:38:56.980 what we need is better experts who are more accountable to to the truth i think and they
00:39:04.820 are not coerced by the government in order to get to say what the government wants skepticism is
00:39:11.460 important but you shouldn't throw the baby out with a bath water in the sense that you've you've got
00:39:15.460 to just critically evaluate evidence and do what you think is best but don't just say well they made
00:39:21.700 one mistake therefore it's bad or vice versa you know don't just believe everything everyone says
00:39:27.460 you've got to think critically so the white house have put out uh this on their autism action plan
00:39:34.580 which is i have to say was not on my bingo cards personally this is this is a bit wild
00:39:41.700 uh and as it says here in step one informing doctors and families the fda will issue a physician
00:39:49.060 notice and initiate a safety label change on acetaminophen you can uh now see why i didn't
00:39:59.060 remember that name off by heart oh believe me the names of various drugs i had to butt my head against
00:40:05.380 this right doing you know psychology so particularly the clinical stuff some of them are ridiculous
00:40:11.940 yeah you like you like them do you yeah some of them are greek oh right oh well oh i i see what
00:40:17.220 that's cheating you like the words i see uh research shows a potential association between acetaminophen
00:40:26.660 used during pregnancy and adverse neurodevelopment outcomes prudent use is needed during pregnancy and
00:40:34.740 for infants and toddlers um hh uh sorry hhs will launch a nationwide public service campaign
00:40:43.780 to inform families and protect public health and obviously they have much more to say about it feel
00:40:50.900 free to read it um if you wish to but obviously then we start getting to uh the blowback from just
00:41:00.260 the other newspapers and um uh those institutions that again not many years ago were telling us to
00:41:09.540 believe things that were demonstrably false right or that were worthy of skepticism believe women you
00:41:15.940 remember well well it's not the one i was thinking of but um another very strong point there a very
00:41:23.540 strong point there and yeah exactly um as you were saying josh that they go down to say well first the
00:41:29.940 definition of autism has broadened as scientists have expanded their understanding of its wide range
00:41:35.860 of traits and symptoms and that led to changes in the criteria doctors use to diagnose autism and
00:41:42.020 improvements in screening and at the same time parents increasingly sought a diagnosis as autism became
00:41:49.060 better known and schools began offering educational services they hoped could help their kids now i
00:41:55.380 remember um you know being at school when i was a wee nipper um about 15 years ago and um back then
00:42:03.460 the the amount of extra time that children were having in their their exams was basically non-existent
00:42:10.340 maybe one in the class and now um well from newspapers and from accounts of my own younger family
00:42:17.300 and led to believe it's significantly more i've heard about this as well in that they're given
00:42:22.820 extra time it doesn't it's sort of as charitable as i am willing to be it does seem a little bit
00:42:29.060 unfair that it's a test of merit and you give people extra time it sort of defeats the purpose of
00:42:32.980 the test yes but that's more a comment about testing than autism um and then obviously uh west
00:42:42.340 streeting uh basically said to ignore whatever trump says our health secretary yes yes our health
00:42:49.380 is a good picture though yeah oh you have to well they often are very very good pictures truth be told
00:42:55.700 so goes on to say that um trump has pledged to ramp up production of this uh drug i'll just i'll just
00:43:03.460 scroll down the bit i'm sorry if that's distracting the children in the in the class are misbehaving again
00:43:09.380 yeah we need a test or something it says that early medical trials have shown that uh lucovarin
00:43:15.940 could help children with um the autistic spectrum disorder with how they speak to and understand
00:43:22.100 others however researchers argue that there needs to be that there's a need for larger studies and that
00:43:28.260 mr trump announced a wide-ranging effort to study the causes of autism including a long debunked theory
00:43:35.940 that blames vaccines and called the moves by his administration historic but this is the thing
00:43:42.660 that when i scan through a lot of articles basically uh tearing trump apart over this and the common
00:43:50.580 pattern is and i think that this is where the mistrust largely comes from as well you see a great
00:43:56.100 deal of oh well this is nonsense and this is nonsense and this doesn't make sense and it's just trump
00:44:01.060 being trump but then they never counter by saying well what is the correct response they only ever say
00:44:08.100 well he's wrong they don't say why they're right or back themselves up with any data and fundamentally
00:44:15.300 when you look here you can see this is not from any uh mere fringe this was um an analysis a research
00:44:23.620 uh done for harvard now harvard university would of course be one of those that uh merely four years ago
00:44:31.060 these same people would have been telling us to put absolute trust in yeah i mean to play devil's
00:44:36.180 advocate i i sort of uh think that you know the person who's making the claim has the burden of
00:44:41.460 proof so if trump and rfk go out and say we found it we found the cure it's this i think also yeah they
00:44:50.180 they have to back it up so i can understand people who are asking them yeah where's the evidence absolutely
00:44:54.900 i think also trump's probably putting it in in trumpian terms where he might unintentionally
00:45:00.660 be misrepresenting it in a way that rfk might not being an actual doctor and i think that the two
00:45:06.820 would probably communicate it very differently if i could understand what rfk is actually saying
00:45:12.820 yes so uh yeah there you are ladies and gentlemen i what was this oh yes this was it just tylenol is
00:45:20.180 bad and then it's just saying leave my multi-trillion dollar pharmaceutical industry alone
00:45:26.420 um now obviously i'm as i say i'm not coming down on one side of this or another because as is most
00:45:32.660 likely apparent to you this is not my expertise this is not my my usual wheelhouse nonetheless i
00:45:38.820 obviously just wanted to report that this has happened and i encourage you to have the conversation
00:45:44.500 amongst yourselves and also i mean i'll just say from my part it's some things are not just you
00:45:49.940 know twitter sphere battles no i agree no i absolutely agree i just thought it was a funny
00:45:55.140 meme no no i wasn't implying you you no no no i know this i know anyway i'll uh i'll just
00:46:01.220 free the autists that's my message free the autists i'll just read through some of these uh
00:46:06.660 rumble rants here i've got um uh a drunk changeling says i was told that the uh
00:46:14.660 camps will serve dino nuggies every night i know nuggies oh dino nuggies i'm sorry i can't even read
00:46:23.300 can't even read can't even read uh black blankfield says stelios islam calls for conquest and
00:46:29.460 subjugation of western countries israel is liberalism the due response that's a huge conversation yes it's
00:46:38.980 just um i say i say to a large degree yes because um the liberalism that i'm for is not the liberalism
00:46:49.460 you may think of you know it's not the the kind of uh let's not be judgmental about anything kind
00:46:55.780 of liberalism stelios has drone strike liberalism in mind you know and i'll i'll just say one thing is
00:47:02.580 that if you look at the tradition again i'll say this you are making me telling this you see that
00:47:07.940 i'm that's a response if you if you actually read the the the old texts of the tradition the main the
00:47:14.740 canonical ones they're incredibly um cognizant of the importance of cultural differences so if right now
00:47:21.780 we have a kind of multicultural establishment that tells you don't focus on cultural differences
00:47:30.660 yeah i think that yeah just jettisoning that establishment is consistent with my views
00:47:37.380 right yeah okay i'll just quickly go through the youtube ones uh i've got tong g says gonna
00:47:43.220 start microdosing paracetamol to max out my autism levels before they start trying to purchase the
00:47:49.300 trump administration is coming for our audience please stay safe out there luke stewart says i also
00:47:54.740 know a lot of people who tend to take more pills at a time then uh said instead of the two twice
00:48:01.460 they'll uh take three or four yes that's not a good idea no don't do that i've actually taken some
00:48:06.260 paracetamol today because i've got a bit of wisdom tooth pain because i'm still not wise yet and they're
00:48:11.060 coming through uh norm says autism cured the internet most affected genuinely yes indeed and also just let me
00:48:18.100 just very briefly say something in addition to my answer that deportation started started being seen
00:48:25.300 as extreme right in the last decade it's not that they stopped in you know 1945 no deportation ever
00:48:34.660 again no border policy ever again it's just the last 10 years are incredibly crazy people have completely
00:48:41.780 forgotten you know the what's going on how to be normal yep uh luke stewart says i blame the autism
00:48:50.260 spectrum i'm a high functioning low maintenance with a couple little quirks but i know people who are
00:48:55.540 quite the opposite high high maintenance and they weren't uh they say we're the same uh yeah there's a
00:49:01.620 massive difference whereby there are people who can function perfectly fine with with autism and can
00:49:07.620 exist in society without any real problems maybe they struggle with a bit with understanding what
00:49:12.420 people mean but within an acceptable realm for most people and then there are people that need full-time
00:49:18.180 carers and can't exist in the economy these two are not the same uh and then i'll just quickly ramble
00:49:24.420 through some of the others uh alsman says uh from your segment josh uh will does his worst controlled
00:49:29.940 opposition opposition than farage uh i think he's he's more keen to deport people than farage
00:49:37.380 is but i don't know after the recent announcements who knows and then i'll quickly uh luke stewart
00:49:42.980 also says i personally think autism is genetic my dad likely is autistic as well but unlike me he
00:49:48.660 was born into a country that wasn't destroyed by oh we've read this we've read this one yes there we
00:49:53.780 are all right get it twice over to you still yes
00:49:58.820 all right right ladies and gentlemen the apocalypse has been cancelled the civil war has been averted
00:50:07.460 we're going to talk about the worst cancellation ever also known as the non-cancellation of jimmy
00:50:12.740 kimmel right so what happened jimmy kimmel is just i think it's just it's someone who's not funny
00:50:19.460 and he's paid to be a yeah a shameless propagandist he's also very insincere whenever i see him doing
00:50:26.500 interviews he goes and it's you know his face just stays still and he makes the laughing noise yeah
00:50:33.540 right so basically thanks what he said you know what he said was that the assassin of charlie kirk
00:50:41.300 was maga right and there was an outrage and what's more he he said this long after the evidence pointed
00:50:49.860 to the contrary yeah right he just put that out because he wanted that narrative to be in people's
00:50:54.820 minds which means he's completely out of touch because for instance on the 12th on friday the 12th of
00:51:01.220 september there were lots of the you know accounts saying can you see how magus how silent maga is
00:51:08.820 right now yeah silent no we weren't no never stopped talking actually about it trying to find
00:51:14.820 the truth also he wasn't the only one secular talk don lehman jamael hill so that was a talking point
00:51:23.140 there were many people doing that propaganda right so what i wanted to say is that there was lots of
00:51:29.940 there was a kind of panic uh to several people and including some uh good uh good people also some
00:51:38.420 friends of mine and they were suddenly taken by the left's attempt to narrative control and think that
00:51:46.340 trump is about to destroy free speech entirely it's all an issue of you know all an issue of
00:51:53.220 destroying you know having zero principles being entirely after power being completely like the left
00:51:59.940 no nothing of the sort um i said several things but one thing is trump has no good reason to engage in
00:52:09.140 top-down cancellation of his critics for several reasons i'm just gonna give you two temperamentally i think
00:52:15.300 he absolutely loves the back and forth he absolutely loves the back and forth it's more like he he
00:52:22.260 knows how to put a put on a good show part of his image is that he is the joker against the batman of
00:52:30.180 you know the corrupt establishment part of which are the corrupt journalists so he wants them he couldn't
00:52:37.460 care less if abc is paying millions of dollars to a shameless propagandist like jimmy camo because he
00:52:44.820 knows really well that being against this establishment is actually boosting his image
00:52:51.860 yeah and what's more the the words of the media just don't have the same effect on them that they
00:52:57.060 had back in 2016 when they were at all-out war with him and also the more the more demonstrably
00:53:04.980 propagandistic your opponents are your critics are the better for you i also think that um that there's a
00:53:11.620 phrase which i'm not entirely sure how i think about it but it it calls to mind it's like for
00:53:15.780 my friends everything for my enemies the law and and uh it sort of this reminds me of in in a film
00:53:23.620 you know the hero will have the villain you know caught and he's about to kill him and he's like no
00:53:29.380 this man who's killed lots of innocent people i i i i'll become just like him and it's always
00:53:34.420 frustrating because then he goes on to kill another innocent person and i'm always frustrated like
00:53:38.580 well this hero is an idiot then he's just resulted in killing someone you don't you know relent when
00:53:45.220 you've got the ability to stop someone who wishes you and other innocent people harm you are then you
00:53:51.620 know it's the same as the the soros never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake it's like
00:53:56.260 that it's the same as the soros da's they're not actively going out and killing people but they're
00:54:00.580 releasing people that do uh you know maybe not killing people but beating people up and stealing and
00:54:05.620 and all sorts of horrible things um so why would you then relent it doesn't make any sense do you
00:54:12.580 want to win it sounds like you don't right we have fcc chair brendan carr denying that there was
00:54:19.540 government censorship that led to jimmy kimmel's suspension says it's because of his ratings now let
00:54:25.940 me say i i we suspend judgment on this case if there was any kind of attempt to censor him i think
00:54:34.340 that's a mistake i'm pro free speech i have been pro free speech and i gave you the reasons before
00:54:39.780 and also i'm not afraid of criticizing trump and i'm not one of those people who are saying trust the
00:54:45.380 plan never criticize trump you know very well that i've said both good things about him and that way and
00:54:52.100 also critical i suffer neither from trump derangement syndrome nor from trump deification syndrome but
00:54:59.380 let's be honest in this case this wasn't what the left tried to made it to make it his ratings went
00:55:06.500 down the toilet yes this show's awful yeah it's not funny it's uncomfortable watching him on camera
00:55:13.060 he's not cut out to do it and he's just a robot isn't he he's just a stooge uh and what do you want
00:55:21.220 me to say and what's more as well it's not just about him is it it's also about all of the celebrity
00:55:27.860 guests that he gets on as well and people generally are becoming a bit fatigued with celebrity guests
00:55:35.620 and their opinions i've got a lot of fatigue at the minute yeah me too not physically but mentally
00:55:42.660 right also disney has been losing billions for years and you'd expect a company that loses billions
00:55:48.740 for years or you know is in an adverse is in a dire economic situation trying to cut what doesn't
00:55:56.820 work it's also worth pointing out they lost money in the pandemic which when everyone was at home
00:56:01.620 is a real mistake you really fumbled yeah right also now let's go and make fun of some democrats
00:56:11.300 because they because they were they what they did was simultaneously hilarious and infuriating
00:56:18.180 now let's try to let's try and laugh with it because i want to start with conan o'brien i like
00:56:24.020 conan o'brien he's one of he's a good late host this is right sad he can be funny yeah yeah yeah the
00:56:29.780 suspension of jimmy kimmel and the promise to silence other late night hosts for criticizing the
00:56:35.780 administration first they came should this night hosts yeah then they stopped coming because all
00:56:40.500 problems were solved administration administration should disturb everyone on the right left and center
00:56:47.860 it's wrong and anyone with a conscience knows it's wrong 168k now let us focus a bit on mr o'brien's
00:56:55.860 profile and i want to see something here last he said something 20 hours ago september 19 about jimmy
00:57:03.060 kimmel september 15 completely unrelated september 10 something about autism um he didn't write
00:57:12.660 anything about charlie kirk yeah so he didn't say that for instance
00:57:20.260 the assassination of someone for his views is something that should disturb everyone
00:57:24.980 on the left right and center no what should disturb everyone is the quote unquote cancellation
00:57:31.620 of one of his chummy yeah late night host who was a blatant liar yeah about what happened yes and
00:57:38.900 not just a blatant liar about something about about something irrelevant about he with his lies he was
00:57:46.340 he was sustaining this atmosphere of polarization and uh quite amazed that an escalation i'm amazed he
00:57:54.740 survived purely on his ratings alone his existence has sort of been a mystery to me that has been playing me
00:58:00.660 for years is that this guy clearly isn't good what and this is a good opportunity to get shot of him
00:58:07.540 and they didn't take it there are so many better people out there that could take his place
00:58:11.060 yeah but the the fcc wasn't created uh last week
00:58:17.460 and and the and the and the democrats have been known for trying to censor um channels and try to do
00:58:25.300 propaganda here for instance they were so it could it be the case that someone with such
00:58:31.300 bad ratings is surviving because he's doing regime propaganda well i would say that that's
00:58:36.020 it yeah yeah it's the only thing it could be yeah right so let us remember what they were saying
00:58:41.780 cancel culture is good for democracy caveat it's only when the democrats are doing it right harry
00:58:47.860 sisson the towering intellect the the the intellectual politics the titan of politics when when he's
00:58:56.580 addressing the nation everything stops right you always go for harry sisson's take when you're planning
00:59:02.740 a segment don't you still yes always always always because i i i don't want to go with you know with
00:59:08.740 a with the average or low level opponent of mine i want to go straight to the he says we're witnessing
00:59:15.380 the most brazen attack on free speech in modern american history elon trump and maga said they
00:59:21.540 were free speech warriors it's the exact opposite don't they think that perhaps when they went after
00:59:27.940 trump and tried to basically de-platform him from the presidency wipe him from all social media that was
00:59:33.860 you know then a sitting president that was probably worse yeah jimmy kimmel i don't know maybe it is
00:59:40.420 and here i have this uh from a greek friend of mine who's basically he has this and he and uh
00:59:47.380 shows the distinction between what harry sisson said in 2022 and what he says now in 2025 almost like
00:59:56.340 they don't have principles or something isn't it yeah now also when we're talking about escalation
01:00:02.660 polarization you know we have to ask the germans because they know about it they know about
01:00:08.580 polarization and we need to ask the germans right so um this person here was uh jürgen naudit
01:00:17.620 he's talking about steven miller's speech who said that we will prevail over the forces of wickedness
01:00:23.300 and evil they cannot imagine what they have awakened they cannot conceive of the army that they have arisen
01:00:28.900 in all of us because we stand for what is good what is virtuous etc and he says this is a hundred
01:00:34.740 percent gables but terms like forces of evil the good and the virtuous as well as the notion of an
01:00:41.860 inflamed army have they if they heard of ronald reagan before yeah that's exactly what i quote posted
01:00:48.580 this guy about good and evil all the time and also isn't stephen miller jewish yeah but i don't
01:00:53.940 know maybe i want to ask this person if he thinks gables was evil is that a fair question yeah no no
01:01:02.100 or would it be totalitarian of of me to say evil and also you know this is coming from the same
01:01:08.340 people who are like well antifa are obviously good it's in the name that anti-fascist so everything
01:01:14.260 they do is good and everything they do against their opponents is you know their their opponents are bad
01:01:19.460 yeah and also uh the democrats and the progressives and the eu they have never mobilized emotions and
01:01:26.420 demonized opponents oh never no they're very principled people stellios never say that they
01:01:31.700 have never never in my presence so suggest this right now we have to talk again to the to the big guns
01:01:41.860 we have to talk about angelina jolie which one and even more i know
01:01:48.420 an intellect even more towering than harry sissons she's who i go to for all of my political commentary
01:01:54.740 exactly she says basically that she no longer recognizes her country under the current trump
01:02:01.060 administration i don't think i recognize her anymore judging from all that further
01:02:05.460 now i can't get a mexican toilet cleaner anywhere i can't recognize my country
01:02:12.820 it's entirely my humor yes i know right okay okay right hillary clinton says in america we defend
01:02:20.420 free speech in terrible times do we we defend free not benghazi though even when it's offensive
01:02:27.940 we defend free speech we is doing a lot of heavy lifting here yeah yeah a lot
01:02:34.740 she's so in favor of free speech that she deleted all her emails also i believe demanded by congress
01:02:41.700 i'd like to reply here but for some reason i can't because she believes in free speech yeah right
01:02:48.820 just so much free speech you can't deal with it david pacman says one of the hallmarks of
01:02:54.580 authoritarianism is to terrify people into self-censorship abc ending kimmel's show is the
01:03:01.060 perfect example of this what about if i said i was against black lives matter in 2020 and i held a
01:03:06.180 normal job would i have been safe then would i you know what did he say for roseanne bar
01:03:14.100 big win in the battle of ideas and free speech roseanne bar said what she wanted to say abc made
01:03:20.500 the business decisions that were right for them the internet is just the most marvelous library of
01:03:25.380 receipts isn't it it is yes the democrats have never attacked free speech that's why ilhan omar
01:03:32.500 asks does the first amendment protect your freedom of speech yes does it protect you from being shamed
01:03:41.300 or shunned by others no the ilhan omar knows all about that ask her brother bottom line your opinions
01:03:48.340 have consequences like everything else in life now taken out of context i don't think it's that wrong
01:03:56.500 yeah what she's saying generally speaking is okay but we know why she's saying it which is not okay
01:04:03.380 right now i have to go to to to actual intellectuals right okay okay because even pinker are you sure
01:04:13.380 steven pinker because um work on language even pinker and other and some other people they were
01:04:19.860 so eager to go and say and say basically no i'm not part of the i'm not part of that of of maga
01:04:25.700 basically that that was the whole thing i'm not gonna go down with you that they were so much
01:04:33.220 into the both sides argument that they didn't even have some time to look at what i was going to
01:04:39.380 happen and you know just it's just wait and see also ask yourself whether there there is any reason
01:04:45.860 for trump to want a very bad critic of his to to stop criticizing him he says cancel culture
01:04:54.260 typically associated with the left is exploding on the right i have a chapter called cancelling it
01:05:00.420 instinct in my new book which tries to explain this human instinct impulse not restricted to any
01:05:05.460 political faction right it is not restricted to every political faction but the very fact that this
01:05:11.620 is being presented as a both sides issue is not even is mistaken to say the least another stinker from
01:05:19.300 pinker i would say well i mean uh uh brett weinstein says seems like all the free speech warriors have
01:05:27.540 forgotten how free speech works and i told him basically sorry he has forgotten how freedom of
01:05:32.100 association works yes because the overwhelming amount of cancellation from the right wing is
01:05:39.380 bottom up just like we're boycotting you know crazy businesses most of it is bottom up and it looks like
01:05:48.100 in this case there wasn't even there wasn't even a heavy-handed you know government coercion because if
01:05:54.340 it were a government coercion and then abc said well look at these concert dire consequences i have
01:06:01.540 from all these people protesting the cancellation of jimmy kimmel the response would be well then you
01:06:06.660 shouldn't have broken the law so it looks like no sorry it wasn't a both sides issue not at all and i
01:06:16.580 have also sorry if i may just say as well as we've said before these are not the same thing it is not the
01:06:22.660 same thing as the left cancelling yours five years ago for questioning the blm narrative yeah and
01:06:29.380 someone live on air in front of many many viewers openly lying yeah to about why someone was killed
01:06:38.900 yeah jimmy freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences didn't you know that i'm sure people
01:06:44.580 like you and maybe even you yourself have said that exact thing right so why don't you lump it and leave
01:06:50.260 it jimmy i'm afraid well so i had this uh i had this thread and i said basically one thing in
01:06:57.540 response to uh people like stephen pinker and uh and uh brett weinstein that basically treating it as
01:07:05.300 a both sides issue is just completely mistaken and ignores the reality on the ground and ignores key
01:07:11.860 differences such as the extent of cancellation the manner of cancellation the rationale for cancellation
01:07:18.980 and who did it first and uh it's entirely a leftist op and you could constantly you could definitely see
01:07:27.540 it from the very beginning because it was so abstract and it ignored the reality on the ground in the same
01:07:35.780 way that people who are talking about social justice they completely ignore the the process by which
01:07:43.540 outcomes come about and only focus on outcomes and they didn't even think of the number of outcomes
01:07:49.300 and let me just give give you a very small uh number the extent of constellation it's nowhere near
01:07:56.020 comparable nowhere near comparable i tell you um a commentator that has been good on this conan the
01:08:00.580 barbarian he says crush your enemies see them driven before you yes exactly and hear the lamentation of
01:08:07.380 their their triggered folk i don't know yeah making up on the floor let let us let us set the record
01:08:13.700 straight and uh just recognize leftist psyopsis when we see them right so the extent of cancellation is
01:08:21.060 nowhere near comparable we have the left trying to cancel people on a top-down manner in a top-down manner
01:08:29.140 there's no grassroots strong support for this but it's mostly top-down implemented for a decade
01:08:36.740 and now we're talking about someone who wasn't cancelled so it's not comparable and with respect
01:08:43.060 to people who cheered about the assassination of charlie kirk i i have said that this is an issue of
01:08:49.300 freedom of association and it has been a bottom-up phenomenon it was driven in a bottom-up manner people
01:08:56.420 said listen you're liaising with psychopaths do what you want do you want to associate with you
01:09:02.100 with them or not it's your choice that's what happened so these things are not comparable
01:09:08.580 and i want to show this video because no these the the democrats engaged in complete demonization they
01:09:17.620 said also was this other guy who looks like an ice cream who was basically has what yeah i have very
01:09:24.580 white hair okay yeah yeah he was saying basically we need to do what the what the germans did to
01:09:31.140 prevent hitler in 1930 oh that bad guy on that other segment i think ellie misto yeah something like that
01:09:38.660 yeah they were saying that was one of the replies right so he was saying yeah look they need to do this
01:09:44.980 because why because someone wasn't cancelled but the left engaged in that psyop or where they were
01:09:50.340 constantly screening and i want i want stephen pinker to write a book about not about the cancelling
01:09:56.740 instinct but about the instinct to empathize with performative victimhood that that would be a good
01:10:03.460 book actually yeah that's something that happened so what the what the left did here was they engaged
01:10:10.340 in performative victimhood they constantly screamed that they were the victims of it not charlie kirk they
01:10:16.180 were the victims of it and they said they constantly did this and suddenly the conversation left from
01:10:22.980 left-wing radicalism and the extent to which the legacy of obama who i think is the one of the most
01:10:29.380 divisive presidents of the u.s the legacy of obama and its victimhood narratives have incredibly polarized
01:10:37.060 u.s society it left from that and it was all on whether trump violated the first amendment well that
01:10:45.300 was a psyops it's it's a product of a society that that rewards weakness that everyone's competing to
01:10:51.700 be a victim whereas it should venerate strength and strong people don't go well i'm such such a victim
01:10:56.420 i'm the victim yeah yeah it's pathetic yeah so stephen pinker you should write a book about the human
01:11:03.300 instinct to show empathy to performative victimhood right and we have here this beautiful video where we see
01:11:10.660 lots of people talking about beautiful the need to censor let's play a bit you shouldn't be banned
01:11:18.260 from one platform and not others uh if you for uh providing misinformation out there there's no
01:11:25.140 guarantee to free speech on misinformation or or hate speech and especially around our democracy there
01:11:30.340 are americans who are uh engaged in uh this kind of propaganda uh and whether they should be civilly or
01:11:39.140 even in some cases criminally charged uh is something that would be a better deterrent if
01:11:45.700 people go to only one source and the source they go to is sick and uh you know has an agenda and
01:11:53.060 they're putting out disinformation uh our first amendment stands as a major block it's really hard
01:12:00.020 to govern today this is a matter of corporate responsibility twitter should be held accountable
01:12:04.820 and shut down that site it is a matter of safety and corporate accountability the first amendment
01:12:10.020 is not absolute it does not protect any single thing anyone says and there are limits and that's
01:12:17.540 important and what this committee has been trying to do for the last year and a half is to chill the
01:12:23.940 federal government from monitoring what is going on on social media when you look at what tucker carlson and
01:12:30.180 some of these other folks on fox do it is very very clearly incitement of violence very clearly
01:12:38.900 incitement of violence i believe that when it comes to broadcast television like fox news these are subject
01:12:45.380 to to federal law federal regulation in terms of what's allowed on air and what isn't so my biggest
01:12:53.860 concern is that your view has the first amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways
01:13:02.020 the party of free speech the party who is protesting look again look again what they were saying here
01:13:09.460 i like that john carrey was talking about inaccurate predictions this sort of end of climate change
01:13:14.820 here he was saying we would all be underwater by now if his predictions were correct is he taking
01:13:20.100 any of those back look at that i think so yeah yeah but this doesn't apply to jimmy kimmel for some
01:13:25.860 reason yeah this doesn't apply to jim well when it comes to um jimmy kimmel i'm with the democrats
01:13:32.420 right i'm a democrat actually right so we had a man who was rearrested by fbi after multiple shots fired
01:13:40.900 that abc um affiliate in sacramento all right is this uh for taking jimmy kimmel off air or because
01:13:50.500 he hates jimmy kimmel that much i don't know there were people who protested the cancellation of jimmy
01:13:56.740 kimmel maybe you know some people who watch him well at least unlike jimmy kimmel i'm actually interested
01:14:02.660 in getting to the root of who it really was yeah not just lying about it for a narrative maybe it was
01:14:08.500 jimmy kimmel himself and now the now we have the 50 million dollar question did trump cancel jimmy
01:14:15.140 kimmel drum roll no he canceled now we go to ads now we're back from ads the answer is no jimmy kimmel
01:14:24.580 will return return this is the tv after highly criticized suspension was late night late night
01:14:33.220 host reinstated after brief suspension related to comments on maga and charlie kirk that disney called
01:14:40.580 insensitive no i'm not gonna pay the guardian it's okay but they are bringing him back they are
01:14:46.980 bringing him back and like the emperor back to his low ratings again yeah and i want to say uh two things
01:14:53.220 no actually a bit more to two people and especially those who were who were die hard centrists about it
01:15:02.660 and i respect them caring about free speech but also let just guys let us first see what is going on
01:15:09.780 let us assess the situation and then see what's you know and then make your criticism number one is that
01:15:16.740 the the the narrative control attempt that the left did was to sway the conversation away from what
01:15:24.740 matters to what doesn't and also to keep gaslighting people and we have here a one uh you know brief
01:15:33.540 survey i'm sure there could be more that's by yougov the economist that says more americans see left-wing
01:15:40.660 beliefs behind charlie kirk's shooting than see right-wing beliefs but when it comes to the
01:15:46.900 democrats yes the democrats see more right-wing beliefs than they see left-wing beliefs most of them
01:15:57.540 something other than political beliefs still beats yeah because left-wing on cnn i think one of kamala
01:16:03.940 harris's exes said that this was a heartbroken story because it was an emotional
01:16:10.580 not a political assassination why did he not like his depiction in south park does he not like
01:16:15.940 debates like how could it be something other than his political beliefs so that's why they were doing
01:16:21.380 it because people most people don't follow news to the extent that we do that's not a that's not a
01:16:29.860 an accusation it's it's a matter of fact we're doing this for a living most people don't and they
01:16:35.860 look at headlines so there is a propagandistic battle for headlines because most people are
01:16:42.180 just going to remember the headline and it's a quantity the quantity of messaging can sometimes
01:16:48.260 entirely overturn the quality of it this is what they they bank on so often i mean just goodness me
01:16:54.820 the fact that you still get people today talking about like trump saying there were good people on
01:16:59.860 both sides right that whole thing that was bumped out even taken out of context totally taken out of
01:17:04.820 context uh easy to find that it was taken out of context but you just the democrats would just say
01:17:11.460 it and say it and say it and say it until eventually people just take it and because that's what they
01:17:17.220 heard you throw things at a wall and see what sticks and that's exactly what they tried to do with
01:17:21.460 this narrative on charlie's killer yeah and uh as the german said it's a hundred percent gables
01:17:26.980 throw them out hoping some of it will stick but that's actually it right and i want i want to i
01:17:34.580 want to end with uh talking a bit about demonization because the democrats are doing it to a very large
01:17:42.500 extent and it happens for various reasons number one it presents violence as justified because it
01:17:50.340 constantly breeds victimization and the belief that is implied that you're in a position where you have to
01:17:56.900 defend yourself therefore violence is justified that's one of the things why demonization is
01:18:03.220 employed in rhetoric the other is to make your opponents sound less human therefore you thinking
01:18:10.180 that exercising you know force against them is not that much of a big issue and the third one is because
01:18:17.540 it presents a usual day as a massive political win because let's say if the if the maga people don't
01:18:25.380 want to destroy things i think that if we look at how people reacted to the assassination of charlie
01:18:32.100 kirk and compare it with how they reacted to blm and all this these uh these issues we'll see that no
01:18:40.180 they don't want to burn things no they don't want to destroy things so if the propaganda the propaganda
01:18:48.100 of the democrats constantly says it's weimar we are just a few nights before the night of the of the
01:18:56.260 long knives you know they're about to destroy the the establishment they're about to bring for the
01:19:03.460 armageddon the civil war and these guys are not and they end up not attacking then the propaganda
01:19:10.420 presents them as look they're afraid of you be you being victimized by our propaganda so keep being
01:19:19.140 victimized so you can avert the armageddon so where there wouldn't have been a problem
01:19:26.340 and where there won't be a problem they're presenting it as something that they themselves did
01:19:31.940 so they say hook on to this propaganda and you averted the armageddon and i think that this is
01:19:40.420 just a very pernicious and polarizing way of of um both governing but also being the opposition it it's
01:19:49.220 it's incredibly polarizing and i hope more and more and more democrats uh and supporters of democrats
01:19:57.460 wake up to this and start understanding that they need to turn their back to this victimization nonsense
01:20:06.100 very good uh jump to go through your rumble rants yeah yeah okay okay uh habsification says there was
01:20:12.580 a leftist terror attack yesterday oh you've covered that on the segment great uh thank you though
01:20:17.540 habsification also says uh we should take into consideration that the 2010s was a transitional period
01:20:23.140 of old media new media the 2020s accelerated it and we're currently living through the fourth
01:20:28.420 industrial revolution thanks klaus schwab i know that's not how you meant it though but no you're
01:20:34.020 you're very right yes uh blankfeld says stelios i'd like to see a debate of your version of liberalism
01:20:40.820 and fourth doctrine i appreciate that it's too much to go into here i suggest you'd argue these
01:20:46.340 principles better than i am i misunderstanding um i mean i i don't know if you're misunderstanding or not
01:20:52.900 uh but i'll be very glad to again debate the issue and talk about it in a proper format and a great one
01:21:00.500 here from uh scott's eye guy says if they didn't like it they can just start their own multi-billion
01:21:06.020 dollar tv network here here yes yeah we've heard that one before and uh yeah okay let's go over to the
01:21:13.700 video comments samson oh excuse me that's all good saying there's patience anticipation is building
01:21:25.780 up don't do it we do okay great that's the wiltshire flag let's have a break from the doom and the
01:21:33.380 gloom and the facetious memory and talk about something cool we've all heard of the diversity
01:21:37.060 built britain 50 pence coins but last month while counting up the cash at work i came across this
01:21:41.140 unique 50 pence coin from 2005 which you can see here on the back is a definition from johnson's
01:21:46.020 dictionary 1775 a.d which reads quote 50 adjective saxon pence noun plural plural of penny i thought it
01:21:55.220 was a cool part of our history and it was nice to see it commemorated now you know about it too
01:21:59.300 have a beautiful day ladies and gentlemen based 50p yeah thanks for that sky that's uh that's really cool
01:22:05.860 i did have great pleasure scrolling through the uh reddit fred for h1b visas and just looking
01:22:35.700 this evening it was wonderful the the one in particular where it's just like i'm going to
01:22:40.660 off myself if i have to go back to india it's just like oh dear sophie i do feel like a part of what
01:22:50.100 is happening here is that in the past the left used cancel culture to get rid of their much more capable
01:22:55.540 competition to get positions they otherwise never would have gotten because they're not qualified
01:23:00.340 and now all of these positions are filled by unqualified people and their bosses are just
01:23:04.900 itching for a reason to get rid of them that can't lead to a discrimination lawsuit and now
01:23:10.180 the idiots gave them a reason so yeah i am very much not sorry
01:23:16.180 no i'm not sorry either sophie and i like your art by the way yeah it was very good
01:23:25.940 all right that's all of them is it website comments it is
01:23:30.580 so shall i read some dutch ones sure can you read them in dutch i'm not that good
01:23:36.740 i've just been to france as well so french is in my mind um it's terrible
01:23:41.620 i even had snails while i was there as well they're actually really nice traitor they reminded
01:23:46.100 me of mussels and so it's sort of seafood-esque and they were it's all in the the seasoning
01:23:50.980 just tastes like herbs and garlic speaking of you in france before you do the comments
01:23:55.460 of your segment there's an honorable mention about it an indian lesbian called minj called minjita
01:24:01.700 says i'm glad you survived your trip to france josh did you come back in a dinghy i did think about
01:24:07.380 it i thought that my prospects would be better if i came back in a dinghy the problem is i went to
01:24:11.300 the south of france rather than the north of france so if i got in a dinghy i might end up in
01:24:15.620 spain and that would be even worse than when i started or libya yeah i'd be sold in a slave
01:24:21.860 market in libya but um yes france was actually very nice i was talking to beau about it um off camera
01:24:29.620 i was just like i didn't see a single diversity uh you know except to the airport in nice the entire
01:24:36.820 time you so you go to the expensive parts and all of a sudden you know back to european you know
01:24:43.460 ways once more but anyway enough of that some more stuff about the netherlands shall we um
01:24:50.500 i'll go to amar award uh please try to refrain from quoting norm mcdonald but
01:24:55.140 i think the worst part about the colorblind policing is the desensitization and normalizing
01:25:00.500 of diverse consequences we don't have to live like this and we know that because the time in
01:25:06.180 which we didn't is still well within living memory very well put and uh i think it's always good to
01:25:11.860 quote norm mcdonald um one of my favorite comedians uh rest his soul and jaron van uh kalkeren says uh
01:25:20.820 those sadly were mostly football hooligans but i would not be surprised if there were many uh glowies
01:25:26.660 two this kind of behavior just messes up the conversation about migration i'm glad you agree
01:25:32.180 um cool i also have a comment from my section by an indian lesbian called mingjita and uh she says
01:25:40.660 why would trump want to stop autism autism probably won him the last election maybe he's just creating
01:25:46.820 a way to infect the entire world with autism now that is a is a super villain plan if i ever that'd be
01:25:54.500 a great plan government by fortune yeah and when everyone's autistic no one will be
01:26:03.380 uh michael dribelbis says uh the autism spike more likely stems from older people uh having kids
01:26:09.620 that's also a factor yeah yeah and is well known the mother's age does play a role in the health of a
01:26:14.740 child the older the mother the more likely problems will arise in the child yeah you agree with this josh
01:26:20.420 from i do indeed yeah um it's a well demonstrated effect in lots of different conditions and in
01:26:26.900 fact you know you've got cases of women in their 60s now having children because also people's health
01:26:32.580 is better and so it it widens the reproductive window this is something that um the egg man
01:26:38.340 stefan molyneux doesn't talk about that much but um it's true that because we're now healthier than
01:26:43.460 before at least some of us um maybe not some of the land whales i saw on holiday in france but
01:26:49.300 um yeah it means that people are fertile for longer which takes some of the pressure off but
01:26:54.020 obviously you know um pressure do uh start a family it will make you happy and i think it's
01:26:59.700 the thing that will make me the most happy in life once i get there uh based ape here with a truly
01:27:05.140 base comment which is the trick to fixing autism is just to refuse to get a diagnosis i've been undiagnosed
01:27:11.300 my whole life i have no idea what's wrong with me just some random flavor of retard life is better
01:27:16.500 this way based fantastic okay do you want to go to your stillius yeah lord inquisitor hector rex i
01:27:24.900 like how you know senior this sounds right for everyone saying that kimmel didn't violate the fcc
01:27:30.660 guidelines because it didn't cause significant public harm look at how many people still believe
01:27:36.100 the shooter was right-wing if the fcc wanted they'd be well within their rights to crush
01:27:41.140 abc jimbo g this could actually be a wonderful opportunity for kimmel to come out and say i must
01:27:48.580 say that despite saying it was one of theirs it looks like that it's not the case and i apologize
01:27:56.260 obviously this will never happen but with apparently only 30 percent of americans believing he was a
01:28:02.180 leftist it would be the noble thing to do i wonder what he'll do he'll probably make jokes about being
01:28:07.700 cancelled not mentioned why and uh carry on as normal i think he'll he'll want to acknowledge
01:28:13.940 it slightly so it's not the elephant in the room but not dwell on it enough that it overshadows his
01:28:19.620 return for all five of his viewers yeah arizona desert rat uh these people crying about employees
01:28:27.140 being fired over social media posts are not taking into consideration private company policies
01:28:32.980 a company is allowed to have a social media clause in employee contracts and they are allowed to
01:28:37.940 fire employees when they violate this clause yep yep george hap of course the leftists would be happy
01:28:44.660 that disney didn't fire kimmel because they agree with him what people should be should pay attention
01:28:50.420 to are the ones supposedly on our side who jumped to his defense when they didn't do so for right-wing
01:28:55.780 cancellations like mr weinstein um did he not uh speak in favor of of the people who got canceled i
01:29:05.220 think there have been certain instances where um because he disagreed with their politics he wasn't so
01:29:11.060 fussed about it basically yeah but i don't know that much about him i've not followed him particularly
01:29:15.220 closely so i could be um misremembering them no you know you know what what i take issue with is just
01:29:21.620 you can be it's very easy to get things right when you speak in general terms so you know a lot
01:29:29.540 lots of the times when you know people who have a big following they speak very generally and take the
01:29:36.580 both sides argument yeah it's wrong yeah okay it is it is wrong we we have been defending free speech
01:29:42.180 for we for years right but guys let us also look at the the particular the case the reality on the ground
01:29:50.180 instead of just being ideologues about it i'm i'm okay we're crushing our enemies this is this is
01:29:54.900 fine with me to be honest baron von warhawk yeah but i mean i think him speaking is one of the ways
01:30:02.260 to do this well he's so bad that he destroys himself isn't there's a case for it yeah isn't he uh baron
01:30:09.860 von warhawk when it comes to jimmy kimmel i guess it's true what they say some turds are just too
01:30:14.900 big to flush down the drain too big to fail yeah okay and what white rider says i've said it many
01:30:21.380 times before political actors mayors senators congressmen members of parliament all need to
01:30:26.740 have their ability to block people and limit replies on twitter removed their job is to work for their
01:30:32.900 constituents they should not be able to deny the right of reply well they are for free speech and
01:30:38.340 democracy after all yeah so democracy dies in darkness god forbid that there isn't going to be
01:30:45.460 any dialogue anymore faza toaster uh they did this to themselves hoisted by their own collective pitard
01:30:52.980 i feel no sympathy for the left after their actions over the last 15 years
01:30:59.460 oh not me well that's all we've got time for today ladies and gentlemen i hope you enjoyed the show
01:31:04.740 and we look forward to seeing you at 1pm tomorrow have a good evening