The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1258
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Summary
In Episode 1258, the Lotus Eaters discuss the anti-immigration riots in the Netherlands, Trump's autism plan and the apocalypse that has been averted. Plus, the return of the Stelios, and the cancellation of the worst cancellation of all time.
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1258 for Tuesday the 23rd of
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September 2025. I'm your host Luca joined today by the Stelios. Hello everyone. And returning
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returning returning guest ever returning guest Josh how are you? Hello and and to be clear to
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all the people dragging me up on this I said I'd be back I come back and everyone's just like you
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were meant to leave and now it just feels like no one wants me anymore so be nice. No we're very
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glad to have you Josh. We promise. Oh now push me off the set. Today we're going to be talking about
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the uh Dutch anti-immigration riots we're then going to be talking about Trump's autism action plan
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uh and then look at me and then we're going to be talking about the the worst cancellation
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of all time. Yeah and also the apocalypse that has been averted. Right okay good. There's going to be
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an apocalypse. Because the world would have been destroyed. Hmm well I'm all for avoiding
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apocalypses so let's see what comes of that. Anyway later would have consumed all. Away from uh whatever
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advice Trump is giving about autism allow me to give you some good health advice which is to buy
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Islander magazine. I am told it is the final week now uh that you can get it when we said that they
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were running out we meant it and now it's all coming to a very melancholy end so go and pick
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it up for £14.99 on the website plus the postage and the packaging. All right Josh over to you.
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Okay so the Netherlands is obviously a very nice country. Everything's very sort of neat orderly
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law-abiding. Look at it. It looks lovely. It looks like a postcard doesn't it and this is sort of...
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I don't like bikes though. That that is the one drawback for an Englishman having to dodge all the
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cyclists is a bit frustrating but it does mean that you don't get run over by cars so the limit
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you know the limitation of getting hurt is pretty good but I've been there I really liked it it's the
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sort of the closest I've felt uh to being at home away from home and uh of course normally it stays like
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this but then this happened what happened is this is an anti-immigration protest and those are the
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police and what is happening is they are running away is it uh could it be that the Dutch have had
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enough thank you is it that slop account over there is it that Dutch patriots educate police vehicle
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because education is important all the buzzwords in didn't you no um we're gonna be talking about
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what it is in a second but I'm just gonna show you some footage and then we'll explain what's going
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on so here's some more um sorry if it's a little bit loud but riots often are oh it's all been muted
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at least on our end they seem angry a bit don't they just a touch yeah but as you can see they're
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attacking the police van van and they're having to flee and here they're chanting we are the
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Netherlands I'm not sure if you can hear it but we cannot um is it is it muted Samson or is that
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just on our end I can't hear it either Samson has has unmuted this end and uh I think there's one
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more here um where we can hear it and this is them I think turning over a set on fire police car
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so this is hardly the sort of peaceful idyllic law-abiding stuff that we're used to seeing and
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of course um the Dutch are sort of similar to the British in the fact that they've got their football
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hooligans and there may be some overlap here but it is a little bit surprising that this has happened
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because um to an outside observer it seems to have come from nowhere you'd expect this from France you
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wouldn't expect it from the Dutch no you wouldn't um it's sort of similar to Germany in a way that
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people generally speaking abide by the law and are quite neat and tidy and orderly and that's a good
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thing right it's an admirable way to conduct yourself um but this was an anti-immigration
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protest outside uh Den Haag or The Hague and this is the seat of the Dutch parliament if you're not aware
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and 30 people were arrested and two officers were injured and I'm going to pronounce his name uh in
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the original Dutch first before uh saying it in English so everyone else understands but
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he had wilders I think I didn't do the you also did with a hand
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I think I should be speaking Italian with that amount of hand motion but
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um he was invited and he declined to speak there um I don't know whether he thought it might end up
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this way but it was a rainy day in a field so maybe it was just that he didn't fancy it but
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another thing that happened um which I've not been able to find video footage of but it is claimed
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to have happened is 1,500 people blocked a highway crossing the city and this has been met with lots
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of condemnation because of course um fighting the police isn't exactly a productive way to limit
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immigration is it generally speaking um this sort of thing doesn't play well optically and although I
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can certainly understand the anger and frustration because I care a lot about um immigration as well
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and and I imagine that they're probably going to have lots of similar arguments that I might have
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about high rates of crime and uh financial burdens etc but it doesn't necessarily help things by doing
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this and I think uh Wilders has gone down a similar line here and to translate the Dutch here he says
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tackle that scum with an iron fist blocking the highway and violence against the police
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are totally but really totally unacceptable idiots so um it's pretty strong words isn't it yeah there's
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and um if um if a lot of those people are rioting over anti-immigration then obviously it's
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Port Wilder's in a position where he's having to crack down on his own supporters right yeah because
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what is going to be done and has been done I'll show you in a second is that they're going to say
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listen you're the person that's creating the environment where this happens and so he's got
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to toe this narrow line because he's at the minute doing quite well politically and he doesn't want to
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upset that by being seen as a rabble rouser and things like that so it has a chance of actually
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impeding proper improvements to the country potentially so I think that that's part of the reason why he's so
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frustrated as well as the fact that obviously it's a breakdown of law and order that's not
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exactly ideal and then again this is um quoting an article calling it uh football hooligans I don't
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know whether they were football hooligans I could sort of see where they might be coming from but it's
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a little bit difficult to guess um on those sorts of things I mean also just because you like football
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and do some hooliganism doesn't mean you're necessarily a football hooligan um but it's
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by the by right it's not that these technicalities are lost on me as uh neither a fan of football or
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hooliganism which one do you prefer more Luca um I can't say live on YouTube fair enough but um
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he's calling them football hooligans and Wilders is calling them um he's saying uh pick them up
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lock lock away and throw away the key scum so it can't really get any stronger than that you know
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what what happens in this case is that Wilders is thinking of uh his political constituency and of
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the fact that as you said he's doing well and the whole battle the whole effort is to try and convince
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the majority the silent majority that one side is the side of law and order and the other side is
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basically completely against civilization as we know it and as the Dutch want it so this is
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counterproductive it doesn't help yes and it's made even harder by the nature of the proportional
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representation system where all the other parties will be allied against him yeah on the other hand
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there is also the possibility I don't know to what extent this happened because I've only saw the
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videos from you know slop accounts as you said in the beginning when we were you know joking about
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you know how these accounts are describing things but there is always a possibility of agent provocateurs
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I've seen people talking about this and this is actually something that you've you got it exactly
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right where I wanted to mention it so well done Stelios um is that I saw lots of people who either
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claimed to be there or know some of the people involved saying that there were either like left
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wing adjutants or um anti-far people and I don't know how true that is but I would be remiss not to
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mention it that it's being circulated um but it's one of those things that's so difficult to prove that
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we can't know one way or the other I suppose if there's video footage of someone who seems like
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they're not part of the protest they just sort of walk out out of nowhere and then start causing
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trouble then there might be a bit of a stronger case but of course with these sorts of things
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it's always very difficult to piece together what has actually happened because of course
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um there's no real video of what started this off because it did start off as a peaceful protest
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and turned into a riot not sure how it got to that point whether it was police provocation
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or you know the protesters at the time um it's difficult to tell um but anyway let's go on to what
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the leader of the green labor party alliance says so he's talking about there being nsb flags um in
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that field there which of course national socialist so he's trying to suggest a link between being
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anti-immigration and the mid-century journey he's talking about extreme rights there we haven't
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translated it yet it's all right but i guess extreme rechts is yep so violence against the police by
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the far right unacceptable these are trumpian conditions fueled by politicians who sow fear
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and division and this is this this argument which is a load of nonsense that by talking about
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immigration and talking about resolving it politically and civilly and through the democratic process
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that ultimately results in violence because that's not true and in fact it's the opposite if you
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don't do anything about it you make violence more likely because people feel like the political
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system isn't solving it and i think actually these sorts of people are ramping up the temperature
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of their respective countries because this isn't just restricted to the netherlands it's in the us
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it's in the uk it's all over europe people trying to um suggest that legitimate criticisms about
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immigration are wrong and they're not in fact they're very morally right if you like preventing crime
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for example if you like not having your wealth extracted out of your country these are good and moral
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things and not having your culture liquidated exactly yes these um this sort of rhetoric though i mean
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this has been going on for as long as the problems have been going on when you when you
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actually look back even into the 1960s and the 1970s you can only just look with frustration at how
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little the dialogue has actually shifted certainly from the left who have never adapted once to the changing
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times to the changing conditions you uh you just sorry just quickly to say you have um exactly this
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point that um jonathan miller made to we not powell on a television debate where he was saying look
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powell it's really simple if you just didn't voice these concerns then people wouldn't be concerned about
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it which is exactly the thing that timmermans is saying here it's total nonsense but the the issue is that
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the left is focused on a top-down way of of approach because that's how they that's how it always
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was historically speaking it's this grundled industrialists who turned against the industry
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the capitalists by trying to tell to the workers what their interest is and then when they're they were a
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second before gaining power suddenly there was a vanguard party to tell the working class what their real
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interest is the left works this way and it projects that's why they told they tell everyone if you
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stop talking about this yeah people will stop that then you won't see the reality in front of your own
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eyes yeah they they believe that it's the media and uh prominent political figures that tell people
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what to believe and that people are just you know a sponge that absorb other people's opinions rather
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than seeing things with their own eyes most people i know that are anti-immigration have stories
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where they've personally experienced the the um sort of negative effects of it or know people who
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have or have witnessed it with their own eyes it's it a lot of it is actually first-hand evidence that
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can't be denied well as as he says here as well these are trumpian conditions fueled by politicians who
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sow fear and division okay so to moments like if um if donald trump was president of the united states
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but the netherlands was an homogeneous country would these riots have happened even though less or more
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likely right it's like obviously but it's obviously your own yeah yeah it's also that you know if you
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want if you don't want another weimar stop being a pathetically weak government that's also a very good
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point i very much agree but why are these riots and protests actually going on at the minute well we need to
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go back to june of this year and uh the dutch government collapsed after wilders um quits the
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coalition and it was in place for less than a year um one of the terms of the coalition was that he could
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not be prime minister and so they actually got someone who was outside of government i think he was an
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academic gentleman by the name of dick schoof uh which is an interesting name um doesn't travel quite
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well across uh to britain um but it collapsed because he was pushing a 10 additional asylum
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measures including a freeze on applications halting the construction of reception centers and limiting
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family reunification to just name a couple these are pretty moderate things really this is only asylum
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seekers and it's not saying yes we can't have any more applications but it's not saying every single
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one of you needs to go which actually i think is probably the best way forward but uh he sort of
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had his hands tied there didn't he because that's what he was elected to do to to get these people out
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of the country and if you can't do it then there's no point being part of the government so i understand
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uh why he quit the coalition and you want to disassociate yourself entirely from what are going to be the
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the ruling party's failures exactly and that's for a while it's not just the last week that's for
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for some time now isn't it that he has quit yeah this was back in june yeah third of june
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and then this uh triggered a snap election which is set for the 29th of october
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and then as this is talking about here this was i think polling from the end of august so
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just under a month ago um still leading in the polls two months before the vote at the time
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he's still leading now he's still doing very well and i think if anything he's going to do better
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and better as time goes on because the problems that he um represents the solution for are only
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getting worse and although um he might not be an ideal candidate because he has very strong opinions
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on israel palestine that i think might put off some left-wingers obviously as well as some right-wingers
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i'm not necessarily i feel like europe has to be focusing on itself and not internationally and i
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do question um this diversion but it's a price worth paying i think in the sense of it's better to try and
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save your own people and your own country first before you uh start caring about other countries
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self-preservation right it's not exactly that radical um another thing that i've seen going around is
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they've been trying to encourage moroccans to uh sway the election because normally they're quite
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politically inactive um and inactive in general it seems other than crime uh which i'll be getting on
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to um they have in the netherlands a disproportionate number of indonesians um anyone know why on the
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panel i'm sure people in the audience might empire surely yes well done luca that they're a former
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colony so it sort of makes some degree of sense why they would be overrepresented doesn't necessarily
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mean they have to be there but it makes sense why they would be um and also moroccans and i'm not
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sure for what reason that is um but they are the second largest minority and so i think the labour
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party green coalition is looking for their votes and these groups tend not to cause as many issues as
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some of the groups in britain do um although particularly the moroccans are associated with trouble
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and i'm going to go quickly to this government report from 2016 this is government data their
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own statistics um i'll just scroll down if i can um it's got lots and lots of stuff um okay but this is
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the most recent example i could think find in 2015 individuals with a moroccan background were roughly
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five times as likely to have been suspected of a crime compared to the native dutch it is uh 4.64 percent to
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0.83 percent and this is of course probably got even worse as time goes on because if it mirrors
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that of other european countries their over-representation will only go up and then for
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moroccans aged between 18 to 25 one in 10 have been suspected of a crime and that's just suspected
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of course that's not prosecuted that's not proven but it also might suggest that more people have been
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committed um more people have been committing crimes sorry but it just hasn't been linked to anyone
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and so it could be worse it could be better it's difficult to tell because it's only suspects
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but it's still a very alarming figure it suggests a very real material measurable problem based on data
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is not people sensationalizing it is a problem that has a tangible effect on people that live in the
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netherlands and they are right to be angry about it let's have a look at some instances of problems and
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they're not as severe as some european countries but here are some syrian children throwing water
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balloons they don't have to become as severe yes of course there's still problems right but these
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syrian children been invited into the country presumably under the auspice of their safety and
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they're repaying the locals by throwing water balloons that don't seem to be bursting so they might be quite
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hard and painful young dutch women this sort of thing shouldn't be tolerated um it's not just
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children having fun it's part of a climate of hostility um i'm not just saying this flippantly it's pretty
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obvious um considering um how many syrians have behaved in europe you know involved in many killings
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of european peoples and um here's another one that's worth mentioning um the crime and the nature of
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crime is escalating in the netherlands no details have been released about this because it's involving
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a 15 year old boy but it's also worth mentioning that the dutch police don't necessarily mess around
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either so this is from the past weekend uh the 21st of september uh this 15 year old armed with a
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handgun tried to steal an electric bike um and he was pursued he refused to give up and the dutch police
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shot him dead apparently in front of many children so they they take it very seriously um and of course
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gun crime is something that's not common in the netherlands really not common in britain either but is
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increasing and it is increasing um because we have more porous borders and it might not necessarily
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have been someone who migrated to the netherlands because we don't know the details of the person
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but what we do know is that by having these routes of people illegally entering the country as well as
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the legal connections that are already there it makes it easier to ferry weapons into a country
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and what we're seeing is an explosion of gun violence in europe where it was previously somewhat
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unheard of you know it did happen every now and then but it's very rare i think in britain um
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you know before mass migration we can pretty much name every single instance of there being gun
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violence by name and and it's it's etched into our consciousness because it was so rare it was so
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unheard of and it'd be in the news for weeks and uh now it's just another weekend story and this is
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obviously a very tragic thing and although the police you know shoot people in the netherlands
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they also do silly things like this this is what i've dubbed the pole of color blindness so they're
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using a button on a pole that randomly decides to check people or not um to avoid ethnic profiling and
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here's the thing i think that it's good to notice patterns in crime because once you notice the
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kinds of people that perpetrate crime you're more effective at directing your limited resources to
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combating it you need ethnic profiling to do a better job at policing it might make people uncomfortable
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but that's the price you have to pay if you want a safe society feelings shouldn't come over the
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safety of your own people it's pretty obvious right and uh i think the most egregious in recent
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times is this of the the case of lisa 17 year old girl who's riding her bike back home from a party in
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amsterdam and she called the police to tell them that she was being followed and then seconds later
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the dispatcher could hear her screaming for help as the migrant started stabbing her in the neck
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seemingly for absolutely no reason whatsoever well you cover that on the previous segment didn't you
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just totally unprovoked murders and the 22 year old asylum seeker so yes they've come to seek
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asylum apparently um had raped another young girl five days earlier and was behind and attempted
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sexual assault on another girl 10 days earlier these are the people you're inviting in your country
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so i entirely understand why people are very angry about it and want something to be done about it
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and uh one final thing i wanted to touch on um just to correct the record is this um some slop that
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needs correcting um it was reported the netherlands parliament just voted to designate antifa as a
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terrorist organization following trump's lead and this is actually not the case and i hate to resort
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oh well didn't stop it getting a hundred thousand likes so did it i know but the person sharing that
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doesn't understand that um as it explains here um it the dutch parliament only passes a motion um it only
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passed as a motion requesting that the government do that and motions in parliament are basically
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talking points and do not oblige the government to do anything and so all they said is it would be
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good if you could do this please and you know if wilders does get in again i'm sure he'd be quite
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receptive to it but it hasn't happened yet but what is going on and what could make this redundant
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is that hungary is urging the eu to designate antifa as a terrorist group
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and of course um well done hungary as as usual um but because the netherlands is a member of the eu
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this would apply to them anyway so it could be the case that if this does go through um the eu
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parliament then it wouldn't need to go through the dutch one but with all of that out of the way
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um extender nederlanders and uh to the rest of you um yes i support the dutch people i think they've
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got a very good and noble country beautiful everything works very orderly and i think that
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you have a right to preserve it and i wish you all the best i've never been you know always meant to
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just never got around to it my advice is um go to holland but don't go to amsterdam there's a place
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right alkmaar um or or harlem not like the new york one yeah um that are similar to amsterdam but
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less touristy and a little bit less busy and you know how tourist traps can be in in european
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countries where it's just set up to exploit you yeah yeah well we know all about being exploited
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don't we uh we've got just some rumble rants from oh of course uh yeah sure do you want to go from
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oh yeah your segment um oph uk uh there's a girl who got raped by a muslim invader near azc um
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asylum seeker center in nl her father tried to get publicity he was arrested the asylum seeker
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did it was moved to another facility um and then they say a girl in my city was gang
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thingied yeah i know i forgot we're on youtube by three moroccans as long um the trial was going on
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there were moroccans parked across from where she lived to intimidate her and her family
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police wouldn't do anything yes it's a really appalling situation and i don't wish it on anyone
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least of all um people so undeserving and and all the establishment will do is just moralize that
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the people who do claim they'll fix the problem for you ryan uh hennigan says people who commit
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violent felonies against citizens while seeking uh granted asylum should be returned to the
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governments they are fleeing i would say that is uh the most charitable thing you could do um for them
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and we've got one on youtube here um luke stewart says i personally think autism is genetic my dad
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um likely is autistic as well but unlike me he was born into a country that wasn't destroyed by
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globalism and free trade but if pregnant mums stop taking painkillers for a quick fix well well
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we'll talk about it now we shall all right brothers sisters lament with me for the the golden age of
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autism may be coming to an end how do we can do now how do we feel about this this news gentlemen
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i want to hear it it surprised me is what i thought of it when i read it i was just like
00:26:38.020
surely that can't be the case and i did some digging yes i was just like okay well it surprised
00:26:43.700
me too and i suppose what surprised me even more than the news itself was that trump decided to
00:26:49.860
announce this of at all times at um charlie kirk's funeral uh when he just dropped this nugget
00:26:59.780
and tomorrow we're going to have one of the biggest announcement really medically i think in the
00:27:06.420
history of our country we're going to be doing it with bobby and oz and all of the professionals i
00:27:13.620
think you're going to find it to be amazing i think we found an answer to autism how about that
00:27:21.780
autism tomorrow we're going to be talking in the oval office in the white house
00:27:29.780
and that seems to have been exactly what they went on to do um because as it turns out you can just do
00:27:36.180
things and if donald trump wants to ban autism from america then let him ban autism from america
00:27:43.540
um obviously just um uh just an s post but you have dragged that one the wrong way if you have
00:27:53.220
here everyone should be grateful for those who are trying to get the answers to this
00:27:59.140
complex situation and the first day all of these great doctors behind me were there i i told them this
00:28:06.660
is what we got we have to find out because when you go from 20 000 to 10 000 and then you go to 12
00:28:16.180
you know there's something artificial they're taking something and by the way i think i can say
00:28:21.540
that there are certain groups of people that don't take vaccines and don't take any pills that have
00:28:26.660
no autism that have no autism does that tell you so because we're on youtube as well i just want to say
00:28:35.380
i'm not offering an opinion on whether or what you know is apparently trump's alleged claims about
00:28:44.260
vaccines and autism i'm just merely reporting on what's being said yeah i think that the link between
00:28:50.420
the two um the the researcher that published the original paper was found to have made up the results
00:28:55.620
and lost his license to practice and admitted to it as well after the fact so i don't think that that link
00:29:01.620
is necessarily true and also my understanding as a psychologist is that it's a largely heritable
00:29:07.620
condition meaning that it it has links in family lines right and so i'm not entirely convinced that
00:29:14.820
there is an environmental cause behind it i think that it could be entirely genetic plus a few sort of
00:29:22.420
extraneous variables that might make the onset of more severe symptoms if you will more noticeable
00:29:32.180
but at the same time i i i don't think that this needs much explanation i think it's something
00:29:39.540
that's always been present there's also the the notion that maybe how we're measuring it has changed
00:29:45.700
which it has you know i know all about how it is measured and we have changed how it is measured
00:29:51.620
there is more awareness of the condition now and so it doesn't necessarily mean that there is a growing
00:29:58.100
population of these people it means that the number of people we have measured with it has grown and
00:30:03.860
i think what trump was alluding to is there are populations that don't have the condition but it
00:30:10.020
could be that they have a culture whereby they don't see it as a problem and i would i would also like
00:30:16.900
to sort of put up a little bit of a defense because it's talked about as this medical thing and it
00:30:21.300
obviously it is debilitating in the sense that it can be a social impairment
00:30:24.660
but there there is an argument in evolutionary psychology that having people who think slightly
00:30:30.420
differently and slightly more systematically benefits the group as a whole and therefore
00:30:36.100
it benefits their survival as well as other people to have these sorts of people around and you only
00:30:40.900
need to look at um you know some of the people who are pushing the frontiers of human excellence to
00:30:47.940
to see that actually there's a disproportionate number of autistic people there who are obsessed
00:30:53.700
about a specific area and doing some great work to push the frontiers of of humanity and absolutely
00:31:01.460
and that's a good thing so i don't want it to all sound negative i think that it's you know i've got
00:31:07.380
some in my family i'm not though no no no be clear as um but i think it's not necessarily something that
00:31:14.020
needs to be you know a death sentence or something to be terribly concerned about plenty of people can
00:31:19.140
live normal lives and i think there's an example of someone a university professor who was a psychologist
00:31:25.460
herself um who nobody could even tell that she had autism because she basically wrote learned how to
00:31:33.300
respond to certain things and lived a perfectly normal life so it's entirely possible i think the way
00:31:39.620
that um they have handled it isn't particularly good because when you are making really large
00:31:46.900
announcements about you know conditions and medical conditions you you announce the results
00:31:55.460
you don't announce that we may have found an avenue which we are going to start an experiment
00:32:00.900
and see how it goes and maybe the experiment will work you need to have results
00:32:05.700
yeah seems to me that this was a this was a mistake yeah well i could i can certainly um agree
00:32:13.780
to that you can see here as well josh what you were saying about the fact that um it seems to be more
00:32:19.220
and more diagnosable and that you know this the whole thing about because this is what trump cites in
00:32:23.940
it the fact that well in the year 2000 it was one in 150 people and now today it's one in uh one out of 31
00:32:32.980
yeah it could be over diagnosis in that people are wrapped up in it that are in a normal spectrum
00:32:38.580
of of thought or it could be that we're just more aware of it these don't necessarily have to have
00:32:45.700
a external cause and i think that this is something that needs to be investigated and you can't jump to
00:32:51.140
conclusions about because it's very serious and you you know if you get carried away you could end up
00:32:56.580
hurting more people than you help and i'll just play this from rfk i have instructed nih fda and cms
00:33:05.540
to help doctors to treat children appropriately j will help tell that story which started with sound
00:33:12.260
science the kind that restores faith in government the announcement of this announcement also represents
00:33:19.940
a historic collaboration between nih fda cdc and cms we expect this to be the first of many
00:33:28.500
announcements over the coming years that deliver actionable information to parents on underlying
00:33:34.660
cause of autism and the potential paths for prevention and reversal so you can see this is um the
00:33:42.020
framing here is about giving greater transparency between what goes into the medication and apparently
00:33:48.740
what is what is causing some problems and medication so the the thing that everyone is focusing on
00:33:53.860
is of course tylenol uh meaning paracetamol and um a particular um particular thing in inside the
00:34:02.820
paracetamol called and anti sir i've lost the word here sorry on my it's too too many syllables for me
00:34:09.140
to pronounce but should i have a look thank you yes the um talks about this thing and that because the
00:34:16.900
concern is from their point of view what they are saying is that pregnant women are taking paracetamol
00:34:25.380
for pregnancy pains as a as a painkiller and the par this particular thing within the paracetamol is
00:34:32.580
reacting to it and get causing autism now this is not them saying that this is the one cause they're not
00:34:43.380
saying that this this one little thing is what was plaguing us this entire time but they are saying
00:34:49.140
they do believe it to be a cause and so what they are interested in setting out is a drug called uh
00:34:56.580
lucovarin and which is typically used to treat the side effects for medical conditions and they want to
00:35:04.260
use this i will say that from my perspective because i'm a known you know scientist of sorts
00:35:10.180
uh i'm very strict on this and um i require years and years and years of research before people make
00:35:20.260
statements of the sort because just uh turning this into a political thing doesn't seem to me to be a
00:35:26.260
good idea because as you said they're saying there may be a high correlation between this condition
00:35:34.180
autism and paracetamol because there's one of these factors all the you know there are there's a
00:35:42.100
myriad of factors that may be affecting us correlation also doesn't equal causation also so it could be the
00:35:49.460
the fact that um women who um are pregnant with you know autistic children have more complications in
00:35:58.260
pregnancy generally just as it could be all sorts of other factors and therefore they're more likely to
00:36:03.060
seek these things out there are lots of different uh possible explanations that should be explored
00:36:08.260
before people jump to conclusions this is one of the things that they say as well isn't it that the
00:36:13.540
the high fevers that women can experience during pregnancy the paracetamol helps with that bringing
00:36:19.460
the fevers down and the fevers could in some way obviously put undue stress onto the child well one of
00:36:26.260
the things that um i was able to identify studying psychology was that um in utero illnesses shape
00:36:33.940
lots of potential disorders and it could be the illness itself rather than the treatment right
00:36:38.820
that is the thing that's causing these sorts of things it's also worth mentioning as well that
00:36:43.620
autism is an interesting um disorder more generally because it's sort of diametrically opposed
00:36:49.540
to schizophrenia which is why the two tend not to co-occur with one another in the areas of the brain where
00:36:54.660
um they're overactive in schizophrenia and overstimulated where they're generating things that aren't
00:37:00.100
actually there they're under stimulated in autism and you know it seems to and that's another heritable
00:37:07.220
condition schizophrenia and if these two are sort of opposites um in terms of neurology then these seem
00:37:14.420
to suggest a more biological basis or at least you know a sizable influence of biology before these external
00:37:22.020
variables should be considered one of one other thing that i just wanted to add with all of this
00:37:28.660
as well is the fact that i think that and as i say i am no expert in this i just merely wanted to report
00:37:36.260
that this is something that the white house are putting out of course and uh this is a route that
00:37:40.740
they're going down but i do believe that um we can't lose sight as well of the fact that we're coming
00:37:48.500
out of uh a pandemic and the lockdowns right and there are a lot of narratives going around during
00:37:55.700
the lockdowns that people found many many uh sometimes justifiable reasons to be skeptical about
00:38:02.340
and uh let's just say that um the pandemic wasn't exactly a golden era for trust in big pharma and
00:38:12.340
to clarify what i was saying as well um i do want more transparency about medication i think that's
00:38:17.380
actually a really big and important thing because i think at the minute um things are passed too quickly
00:38:23.700
into the hands of the public and i think that more testing does need to be done in lots of different
00:38:28.980
areas because i think that the urgency aspect although it is important to get medication to
00:38:34.340
people who need it we do need to make sure that the harm doesn't outweigh the benefits exactly and i
00:38:41.540
want to say something that some may not want to hear but the fact that so-called experts made huge
00:38:49.060
mistakes and sort of discredited some institutions doesn't mean that we can dispense with expertise
00:38:56.980
what we need is better experts who are more accountable to to the truth i think and they
00:39:04.820
are not coerced by the government in order to get to say what the government wants skepticism is
00:39:11.460
important but you shouldn't throw the baby out with a bath water in the sense that you've you've got
00:39:15.460
to just critically evaluate evidence and do what you think is best but don't just say well they made
00:39:21.700
one mistake therefore it's bad or vice versa you know don't just believe everything everyone says
00:39:27.460
you've got to think critically so the white house have put out uh this on their autism action plan
00:39:34.580
which is i have to say was not on my bingo cards personally this is this is a bit wild
00:39:41.700
uh and as it says here in step one informing doctors and families the fda will issue a physician
00:39:49.060
notice and initiate a safety label change on acetaminophen you can uh now see why i didn't
00:39:59.060
remember that name off by heart oh believe me the names of various drugs i had to butt my head against
00:40:05.380
this right doing you know psychology so particularly the clinical stuff some of them are ridiculous
00:40:11.940
yeah you like you like them do you yeah some of them are greek oh right oh well oh i i see what
00:40:17.220
that's cheating you like the words i see uh research shows a potential association between acetaminophen
00:40:26.660
used during pregnancy and adverse neurodevelopment outcomes prudent use is needed during pregnancy and
00:40:34.740
for infants and toddlers um hh uh sorry hhs will launch a nationwide public service campaign
00:40:43.780
to inform families and protect public health and obviously they have much more to say about it feel
00:40:50.900
free to read it um if you wish to but obviously then we start getting to uh the blowback from just
00:41:00.260
the other newspapers and um uh those institutions that again not many years ago were telling us to
00:41:09.540
believe things that were demonstrably false right or that were worthy of skepticism believe women you
00:41:15.940
remember well well it's not the one i was thinking of but um another very strong point there a very
00:41:23.540
strong point there and yeah exactly um as you were saying josh that they go down to say well first the
00:41:29.940
definition of autism has broadened as scientists have expanded their understanding of its wide range
00:41:35.860
of traits and symptoms and that led to changes in the criteria doctors use to diagnose autism and
00:41:42.020
improvements in screening and at the same time parents increasingly sought a diagnosis as autism became
00:41:49.060
better known and schools began offering educational services they hoped could help their kids now i
00:41:55.380
remember um you know being at school when i was a wee nipper um about 15 years ago and um back then
00:42:03.460
the the amount of extra time that children were having in their their exams was basically non-existent
00:42:10.340
maybe one in the class and now um well from newspapers and from accounts of my own younger family
00:42:17.300
and led to believe it's significantly more i've heard about this as well in that they're given
00:42:22.820
extra time it doesn't it's sort of as charitable as i am willing to be it does seem a little bit
00:42:29.060
unfair that it's a test of merit and you give people extra time it sort of defeats the purpose of
00:42:32.980
the test yes but that's more a comment about testing than autism um and then obviously uh west
00:42:42.340
streeting uh basically said to ignore whatever trump says our health secretary yes yes our health
00:42:49.380
is a good picture though yeah oh you have to well they often are very very good pictures truth be told
00:42:55.700
so goes on to say that um trump has pledged to ramp up production of this uh drug i'll just i'll just
00:43:03.460
scroll down the bit i'm sorry if that's distracting the children in the in the class are misbehaving again
00:43:09.380
yeah we need a test or something it says that early medical trials have shown that uh lucovarin
00:43:15.940
could help children with um the autistic spectrum disorder with how they speak to and understand
00:43:22.100
others however researchers argue that there needs to be that there's a need for larger studies and that
00:43:28.260
mr trump announced a wide-ranging effort to study the causes of autism including a long debunked theory
00:43:35.940
that blames vaccines and called the moves by his administration historic but this is the thing
00:43:42.660
that when i scan through a lot of articles basically uh tearing trump apart over this and the common
00:43:50.580
pattern is and i think that this is where the mistrust largely comes from as well you see a great
00:43:56.100
deal of oh well this is nonsense and this is nonsense and this doesn't make sense and it's just trump
00:44:01.060
being trump but then they never counter by saying well what is the correct response they only ever say
00:44:08.100
well he's wrong they don't say why they're right or back themselves up with any data and fundamentally
00:44:15.300
when you look here you can see this is not from any uh mere fringe this was um an analysis a research
00:44:23.620
uh done for harvard now harvard university would of course be one of those that uh merely four years ago
00:44:31.060
these same people would have been telling us to put absolute trust in yeah i mean to play devil's
00:44:36.180
advocate i i sort of uh think that you know the person who's making the claim has the burden of
00:44:41.460
proof so if trump and rfk go out and say we found it we found the cure it's this i think also yeah they
00:44:50.180
they have to back it up so i can understand people who are asking them yeah where's the evidence absolutely
00:44:54.900
i think also trump's probably putting it in in trumpian terms where he might unintentionally
00:45:00.660
be misrepresenting it in a way that rfk might not being an actual doctor and i think that the two
00:45:06.820
would probably communicate it very differently if i could understand what rfk is actually saying
00:45:12.820
yes so uh yeah there you are ladies and gentlemen i what was this oh yes this was it just tylenol is
00:45:20.180
bad and then it's just saying leave my multi-trillion dollar pharmaceutical industry alone
00:45:26.420
um now obviously i'm as i say i'm not coming down on one side of this or another because as is most
00:45:32.660
likely apparent to you this is not my expertise this is not my my usual wheelhouse nonetheless i
00:45:38.820
obviously just wanted to report that this has happened and i encourage you to have the conversation
00:45:44.500
amongst yourselves and also i mean i'll just say from my part it's some things are not just you
00:45:49.940
know twitter sphere battles no i agree no i absolutely agree i just thought it was a funny
00:45:55.140
meme no no i wasn't implying you you no no no i know this i know anyway i'll uh i'll just
00:46:01.220
free the autists that's my message free the autists i'll just read through some of these uh
00:46:06.660
rumble rants here i've got um uh a drunk changeling says i was told that the uh
00:46:14.660
camps will serve dino nuggies every night i know nuggies oh dino nuggies i'm sorry i can't even read
00:46:23.300
can't even read can't even read uh black blankfield says stelios islam calls for conquest and
00:46:29.460
subjugation of western countries israel is liberalism the due response that's a huge conversation yes it's
00:46:38.980
just um i say i say to a large degree yes because um the liberalism that i'm for is not the liberalism
00:46:49.460
you may think of you know it's not the the kind of uh let's not be judgmental about anything kind
00:46:55.780
of liberalism stelios has drone strike liberalism in mind you know and i'll i'll just say one thing is
00:47:02.580
that if you look at the tradition again i'll say this you are making me telling this you see that
00:47:07.940
i'm that's a response if you if you actually read the the the old texts of the tradition the main the
00:47:14.740
canonical ones they're incredibly um cognizant of the importance of cultural differences so if right now
00:47:21.780
we have a kind of multicultural establishment that tells you don't focus on cultural differences
00:47:30.660
yeah i think that yeah just jettisoning that establishment is consistent with my views
00:47:37.380
right yeah okay i'll just quickly go through the youtube ones uh i've got tong g says gonna
00:47:43.220
start microdosing paracetamol to max out my autism levels before they start trying to purchase the
00:47:49.300
trump administration is coming for our audience please stay safe out there luke stewart says i also
00:47:54.740
know a lot of people who tend to take more pills at a time then uh said instead of the two twice
00:48:01.460
they'll uh take three or four yes that's not a good idea no don't do that i've actually taken some
00:48:06.260
paracetamol today because i've got a bit of wisdom tooth pain because i'm still not wise yet and they're
00:48:11.060
coming through uh norm says autism cured the internet most affected genuinely yes indeed and also just let me
00:48:18.100
just very briefly say something in addition to my answer that deportation started started being seen
00:48:25.300
as extreme right in the last decade it's not that they stopped in you know 1945 no deportation ever
00:48:34.660
again no border policy ever again it's just the last 10 years are incredibly crazy people have completely
00:48:41.780
forgotten you know the what's going on how to be normal yep uh luke stewart says i blame the autism
00:48:50.260
spectrum i'm a high functioning low maintenance with a couple little quirks but i know people who are
00:48:55.540
quite the opposite high high maintenance and they weren't uh they say we're the same uh yeah there's a
00:49:01.620
massive difference whereby there are people who can function perfectly fine with with autism and can
00:49:07.620
exist in society without any real problems maybe they struggle with a bit with understanding what
00:49:12.420
people mean but within an acceptable realm for most people and then there are people that need full-time
00:49:18.180
carers and can't exist in the economy these two are not the same uh and then i'll just quickly ramble
00:49:24.420
through some of the others uh alsman says uh from your segment josh uh will does his worst controlled
00:49:29.940
opposition opposition than farage uh i think he's he's more keen to deport people than farage
00:49:37.380
is but i don't know after the recent announcements who knows and then i'll quickly uh luke stewart
00:49:42.980
also says i personally think autism is genetic my dad likely is autistic as well but unlike me he
00:49:48.660
was born into a country that wasn't destroyed by oh we've read this we've read this one yes there we
00:49:53.780
are all right get it twice over to you still yes
00:49:58.820
all right right ladies and gentlemen the apocalypse has been cancelled the civil war has been averted
00:50:07.460
we're going to talk about the worst cancellation ever also known as the non-cancellation of jimmy
00:50:12.740
kimmel right so what happened jimmy kimmel is just i think it's just it's someone who's not funny
00:50:19.460
and he's paid to be a yeah a shameless propagandist he's also very insincere whenever i see him doing
00:50:26.500
interviews he goes and it's you know his face just stays still and he makes the laughing noise yeah
00:50:33.540
right so basically thanks what he said you know what he said was that the assassin of charlie kirk
00:50:41.300
was maga right and there was an outrage and what's more he he said this long after the evidence pointed
00:50:49.860
to the contrary yeah right he just put that out because he wanted that narrative to be in people's
00:50:54.820
minds which means he's completely out of touch because for instance on the 12th on friday the 12th of
00:51:01.220
september there were lots of the you know accounts saying can you see how magus how silent maga is
00:51:08.820
right now yeah silent no we weren't no never stopped talking actually about it trying to find
00:51:14.820
the truth also he wasn't the only one secular talk don lehman jamael hill so that was a talking point
00:51:23.140
there were many people doing that propaganda right so what i wanted to say is that there was lots of
00:51:29.940
there was a kind of panic uh to several people and including some uh good uh good people also some
00:51:38.420
friends of mine and they were suddenly taken by the left's attempt to narrative control and think that
00:51:46.340
trump is about to destroy free speech entirely it's all an issue of you know all an issue of
00:51:53.220
destroying you know having zero principles being entirely after power being completely like the left
00:51:59.940
no nothing of the sort um i said several things but one thing is trump has no good reason to engage in
00:52:09.140
top-down cancellation of his critics for several reasons i'm just gonna give you two temperamentally i think
00:52:15.300
he absolutely loves the back and forth he absolutely loves the back and forth it's more like he he
00:52:22.260
knows how to put a put on a good show part of his image is that he is the joker against the batman of
00:52:30.180
you know the corrupt establishment part of which are the corrupt journalists so he wants them he couldn't
00:52:37.460
care less if abc is paying millions of dollars to a shameless propagandist like jimmy camo because he
00:52:44.820
knows really well that being against this establishment is actually boosting his image
00:52:51.860
yeah and what's more the the words of the media just don't have the same effect on them that they
00:52:57.060
had back in 2016 when they were at all-out war with him and also the more the more demonstrably
00:53:04.980
propagandistic your opponents are your critics are the better for you i also think that um that there's a
00:53:11.620
phrase which i'm not entirely sure how i think about it but it it calls to mind it's like for
00:53:15.780
my friends everything for my enemies the law and and uh it sort of this reminds me of in in a film
00:53:23.620
you know the hero will have the villain you know caught and he's about to kill him and he's like no
00:53:29.380
this man who's killed lots of innocent people i i i i'll become just like him and it's always
00:53:34.420
frustrating because then he goes on to kill another innocent person and i'm always frustrated like
00:53:38.580
well this hero is an idiot then he's just resulted in killing someone you don't you know relent when
00:53:45.220
you've got the ability to stop someone who wishes you and other innocent people harm you are then you
00:53:51.620
know it's the same as the the soros never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake it's like
00:53:56.260
that it's the same as the soros da's they're not actively going out and killing people but they're
00:54:00.580
releasing people that do uh you know maybe not killing people but beating people up and stealing and
00:54:05.620
and all sorts of horrible things um so why would you then relent it doesn't make any sense do you
00:54:12.580
want to win it sounds like you don't right we have fcc chair brendan carr denying that there was
00:54:19.540
government censorship that led to jimmy kimmel's suspension says it's because of his ratings now let
00:54:25.940
me say i i we suspend judgment on this case if there was any kind of attempt to censor him i think
00:54:34.340
that's a mistake i'm pro free speech i have been pro free speech and i gave you the reasons before
00:54:39.780
and also i'm not afraid of criticizing trump and i'm not one of those people who are saying trust the
00:54:45.380
plan never criticize trump you know very well that i've said both good things about him and that way and
00:54:52.100
also critical i suffer neither from trump derangement syndrome nor from trump deification syndrome but
00:54:59.380
let's be honest in this case this wasn't what the left tried to made it to make it his ratings went
00:55:06.500
down the toilet yes this show's awful yeah it's not funny it's uncomfortable watching him on camera
00:55:13.060
he's not cut out to do it and he's just a robot isn't he he's just a stooge uh and what do you want
00:55:21.220
me to say and what's more as well it's not just about him is it it's also about all of the celebrity
00:55:27.860
guests that he gets on as well and people generally are becoming a bit fatigued with celebrity guests
00:55:35.620
and their opinions i've got a lot of fatigue at the minute yeah me too not physically but mentally
00:55:42.660
right also disney has been losing billions for years and you'd expect a company that loses billions
00:55:48.740
for years or you know is in an adverse is in a dire economic situation trying to cut what doesn't
00:55:56.820
work it's also worth pointing out they lost money in the pandemic which when everyone was at home
00:56:01.620
is a real mistake you really fumbled yeah right also now let's go and make fun of some democrats
00:56:11.300
because they because they were they what they did was simultaneously hilarious and infuriating
00:56:18.180
now let's try to let's try and laugh with it because i want to start with conan o'brien i like
00:56:24.020
conan o'brien he's one of he's a good late host this is right sad he can be funny yeah yeah yeah the
00:56:29.780
suspension of jimmy kimmel and the promise to silence other late night hosts for criticizing the
00:56:35.780
administration first they came should this night hosts yeah then they stopped coming because all
00:56:40.500
problems were solved administration administration should disturb everyone on the right left and center
00:56:47.860
it's wrong and anyone with a conscience knows it's wrong 168k now let us focus a bit on mr o'brien's
00:56:55.860
profile and i want to see something here last he said something 20 hours ago september 19 about jimmy
00:57:03.060
kimmel september 15 completely unrelated september 10 something about autism um he didn't write
00:57:12.660
anything about charlie kirk yeah so he didn't say that for instance
00:57:20.260
the assassination of someone for his views is something that should disturb everyone
00:57:24.980
on the left right and center no what should disturb everyone is the quote unquote cancellation
00:57:31.620
of one of his chummy yeah late night host who was a blatant liar yeah about what happened yes and
00:57:38.900
not just a blatant liar about something about about something irrelevant about he with his lies he was
00:57:46.340
he was sustaining this atmosphere of polarization and uh quite amazed that an escalation i'm amazed he
00:57:54.740
survived purely on his ratings alone his existence has sort of been a mystery to me that has been playing me
00:58:00.660
for years is that this guy clearly isn't good what and this is a good opportunity to get shot of him
00:58:07.540
and they didn't take it there are so many better people out there that could take his place
00:58:11.060
yeah but the the fcc wasn't created uh last week
00:58:17.460
and and the and the and the democrats have been known for trying to censor um channels and try to do
00:58:25.300
propaganda here for instance they were so it could it be the case that someone with such
00:58:31.300
bad ratings is surviving because he's doing regime propaganda well i would say that that's
00:58:36.020
it yeah yeah it's the only thing it could be yeah right so let us remember what they were saying
00:58:41.780
cancel culture is good for democracy caveat it's only when the democrats are doing it right harry
00:58:47.860
sisson the towering intellect the the the intellectual politics the titan of politics when when he's
00:58:56.580
addressing the nation everything stops right you always go for harry sisson's take when you're planning
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a segment don't you still yes always always always because i i i don't want to go with you know with
00:59:08.740
a with the average or low level opponent of mine i want to go straight to the he says we're witnessing
00:59:15.380
the most brazen attack on free speech in modern american history elon trump and maga said they
00:59:21.540
were free speech warriors it's the exact opposite don't they think that perhaps when they went after
00:59:27.940
trump and tried to basically de-platform him from the presidency wipe him from all social media that was
00:59:33.860
you know then a sitting president that was probably worse yeah jimmy kimmel i don't know maybe it is
00:59:40.420
and here i have this uh from a greek friend of mine who's basically he has this and he and uh
00:59:47.380
shows the distinction between what harry sisson said in 2022 and what he says now in 2025 almost like
00:59:56.340
they don't have principles or something isn't it yeah now also when we're talking about escalation
01:00:02.660
polarization you know we have to ask the germans because they know about it they know about
01:00:08.580
polarization and we need to ask the germans right so um this person here was uh jürgen naudit
01:00:17.620
he's talking about steven miller's speech who said that we will prevail over the forces of wickedness
01:00:23.300
and evil they cannot imagine what they have awakened they cannot conceive of the army that they have arisen
01:00:28.900
in all of us because we stand for what is good what is virtuous etc and he says this is a hundred
01:00:34.740
percent gables but terms like forces of evil the good and the virtuous as well as the notion of an
01:00:41.860
inflamed army have they if they heard of ronald reagan before yeah that's exactly what i quote posted
01:00:48.580
this guy about good and evil all the time and also isn't stephen miller jewish yeah but i don't
01:00:53.940
know maybe i want to ask this person if he thinks gables was evil is that a fair question yeah no no
01:01:02.100
or would it be totalitarian of of me to say evil and also you know this is coming from the same
01:01:08.340
people who are like well antifa are obviously good it's in the name that anti-fascist so everything
01:01:14.260
they do is good and everything they do against their opponents is you know their their opponents are bad
01:01:19.460
yeah and also uh the democrats and the progressives and the eu they have never mobilized emotions and
01:01:26.420
demonized opponents oh never no they're very principled people stellios never say that they
01:01:31.700
have never never in my presence so suggest this right now we have to talk again to the to the big guns
01:01:41.860
we have to talk about angelina jolie which one and even more i know
01:01:48.420
an intellect even more towering than harry sissons she's who i go to for all of my political commentary
01:01:54.740
exactly she says basically that she no longer recognizes her country under the current trump
01:02:01.060
administration i don't think i recognize her anymore judging from all that further
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now i can't get a mexican toilet cleaner anywhere i can't recognize my country
01:02:12.820
it's entirely my humor yes i know right okay okay right hillary clinton says in america we defend
01:02:20.420
free speech in terrible times do we we defend free not benghazi though even when it's offensive
01:02:27.940
we defend free speech we is doing a lot of heavy lifting here yeah yeah a lot
01:02:34.740
she's so in favor of free speech that she deleted all her emails also i believe demanded by congress
01:02:41.700
i'd like to reply here but for some reason i can't because she believes in free speech yeah right
01:02:48.820
just so much free speech you can't deal with it david pacman says one of the hallmarks of
01:02:54.580
authoritarianism is to terrify people into self-censorship abc ending kimmel's show is the
01:03:01.060
perfect example of this what about if i said i was against black lives matter in 2020 and i held a
01:03:06.180
normal job would i have been safe then would i you know what did he say for roseanne bar
01:03:14.100
big win in the battle of ideas and free speech roseanne bar said what she wanted to say abc made
01:03:20.500
the business decisions that were right for them the internet is just the most marvelous library of
01:03:25.380
receipts isn't it it is yes the democrats have never attacked free speech that's why ilhan omar
01:03:32.500
asks does the first amendment protect your freedom of speech yes does it protect you from being shamed
01:03:41.300
or shunned by others no the ilhan omar knows all about that ask her brother bottom line your opinions
01:03:48.340
have consequences like everything else in life now taken out of context i don't think it's that wrong
01:03:56.500
yeah what she's saying generally speaking is okay but we know why she's saying it which is not okay
01:04:03.380
right now i have to go to to to actual intellectuals right okay okay because even pinker are you sure
01:04:13.380
steven pinker because um work on language even pinker and other and some other people they were
01:04:19.860
so eager to go and say and say basically no i'm not part of the i'm not part of that of of maga
01:04:25.700
basically that that was the whole thing i'm not gonna go down with you that they were so much
01:04:33.220
into the both sides argument that they didn't even have some time to look at what i was going to
01:04:39.380
happen and you know just it's just wait and see also ask yourself whether there there is any reason
01:04:45.860
for trump to want a very bad critic of his to to stop criticizing him he says cancel culture
01:04:54.260
typically associated with the left is exploding on the right i have a chapter called cancelling it
01:05:00.420
instinct in my new book which tries to explain this human instinct impulse not restricted to any
01:05:05.460
political faction right it is not restricted to every political faction but the very fact that this
01:05:11.620
is being presented as a both sides issue is not even is mistaken to say the least another stinker from
01:05:19.300
pinker i would say well i mean uh uh brett weinstein says seems like all the free speech warriors have
01:05:27.540
forgotten how free speech works and i told him basically sorry he has forgotten how freedom of
01:05:32.100
association works yes because the overwhelming amount of cancellation from the right wing is
01:05:39.380
bottom up just like we're boycotting you know crazy businesses most of it is bottom up and it looks like
01:05:48.100
in this case there wasn't even there wasn't even a heavy-handed you know government coercion because if
01:05:54.340
it were a government coercion and then abc said well look at these concert dire consequences i have
01:06:01.540
from all these people protesting the cancellation of jimmy kimmel the response would be well then you
01:06:06.660
shouldn't have broken the law so it looks like no sorry it wasn't a both sides issue not at all and i
01:06:16.580
have also sorry if i may just say as well as we've said before these are not the same thing it is not the
01:06:22.660
same thing as the left cancelling yours five years ago for questioning the blm narrative yeah and
01:06:29.380
someone live on air in front of many many viewers openly lying yeah to about why someone was killed
01:06:38.900
yeah jimmy freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences didn't you know that i'm sure people
01:06:44.580
like you and maybe even you yourself have said that exact thing right so why don't you lump it and leave
01:06:50.260
it jimmy i'm afraid well so i had this uh i had this thread and i said basically one thing in
01:06:57.540
response to uh people like stephen pinker and uh and uh brett weinstein that basically treating it as
01:07:05.300
a both sides issue is just completely mistaken and ignores the reality on the ground and ignores key
01:07:11.860
differences such as the extent of cancellation the manner of cancellation the rationale for cancellation
01:07:18.980
and who did it first and uh it's entirely a leftist op and you could constantly you could definitely see
01:07:27.540
it from the very beginning because it was so abstract and it ignored the reality on the ground in the same
01:07:35.780
way that people who are talking about social justice they completely ignore the the process by which
01:07:43.540
outcomes come about and only focus on outcomes and they didn't even think of the number of outcomes
01:07:49.300
and let me just give give you a very small uh number the extent of constellation it's nowhere near
01:07:56.020
comparable nowhere near comparable i tell you um a commentator that has been good on this conan the
01:08:00.580
barbarian he says crush your enemies see them driven before you yes exactly and hear the lamentation of
01:08:07.380
their their triggered folk i don't know yeah making up on the floor let let us let us set the record
01:08:13.700
straight and uh just recognize leftist psyopsis when we see them right so the extent of cancellation is
01:08:21.060
nowhere near comparable we have the left trying to cancel people on a top-down manner in a top-down manner
01:08:29.140
there's no grassroots strong support for this but it's mostly top-down implemented for a decade
01:08:36.740
and now we're talking about someone who wasn't cancelled so it's not comparable and with respect
01:08:43.060
to people who cheered about the assassination of charlie kirk i i have said that this is an issue of
01:08:49.300
freedom of association and it has been a bottom-up phenomenon it was driven in a bottom-up manner people
01:08:56.420
said listen you're liaising with psychopaths do what you want do you want to associate with you
01:09:02.100
with them or not it's your choice that's what happened so these things are not comparable
01:09:08.580
and i want to show this video because no these the the democrats engaged in complete demonization they
01:09:17.620
said also was this other guy who looks like an ice cream who was basically has what yeah i have very
01:09:24.580
white hair okay yeah yeah he was saying basically we need to do what the what the germans did to
01:09:31.140
prevent hitler in 1930 oh that bad guy on that other segment i think ellie misto yeah something like that
01:09:38.660
yeah they were saying that was one of the replies right so he was saying yeah look they need to do this
01:09:44.980
because why because someone wasn't cancelled but the left engaged in that psyop or where they were
01:09:50.340
constantly screening and i want i want stephen pinker to write a book about not about the cancelling
01:09:56.740
instinct but about the instinct to empathize with performative victimhood that that would be a good
01:10:03.460
book actually yeah that's something that happened so what the what the left did here was they engaged
01:10:10.340
in performative victimhood they constantly screamed that they were the victims of it not charlie kirk they
01:10:16.180
were the victims of it and they said they constantly did this and suddenly the conversation left from
01:10:22.980
left-wing radicalism and the extent to which the legacy of obama who i think is the one of the most
01:10:29.380
divisive presidents of the u.s the legacy of obama and its victimhood narratives have incredibly polarized
01:10:37.060
u.s society it left from that and it was all on whether trump violated the first amendment well that
01:10:45.300
was a psyops it's it's a product of a society that that rewards weakness that everyone's competing to
01:10:51.700
be a victim whereas it should venerate strength and strong people don't go well i'm such such a victim
01:10:56.420
i'm the victim yeah yeah it's pathetic yeah so stephen pinker you should write a book about the human
01:11:03.300
instinct to show empathy to performative victimhood right and we have here this beautiful video where we see
01:11:10.660
lots of people talking about beautiful the need to censor let's play a bit you shouldn't be banned
01:11:18.260
from one platform and not others uh if you for uh providing misinformation out there there's no
01:11:25.140
guarantee to free speech on misinformation or or hate speech and especially around our democracy there
01:11:30.340
are americans who are uh engaged in uh this kind of propaganda uh and whether they should be civilly or
01:11:39.140
even in some cases criminally charged uh is something that would be a better deterrent if
01:11:45.700
people go to only one source and the source they go to is sick and uh you know has an agenda and
01:11:53.060
they're putting out disinformation uh our first amendment stands as a major block it's really hard
01:12:00.020
to govern today this is a matter of corporate responsibility twitter should be held accountable
01:12:04.820
and shut down that site it is a matter of safety and corporate accountability the first amendment
01:12:10.020
is not absolute it does not protect any single thing anyone says and there are limits and that's
01:12:17.540
important and what this committee has been trying to do for the last year and a half is to chill the
01:12:23.940
federal government from monitoring what is going on on social media when you look at what tucker carlson and
01:12:30.180
some of these other folks on fox do it is very very clearly incitement of violence very clearly
01:12:38.900
incitement of violence i believe that when it comes to broadcast television like fox news these are subject
01:12:45.380
to to federal law federal regulation in terms of what's allowed on air and what isn't so my biggest
01:12:53.860
concern is that your view has the first amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways
01:13:02.020
the party of free speech the party who is protesting look again look again what they were saying here
01:13:09.460
i like that john carrey was talking about inaccurate predictions this sort of end of climate change
01:13:14.820
here he was saying we would all be underwater by now if his predictions were correct is he taking
01:13:20.100
any of those back look at that i think so yeah yeah but this doesn't apply to jimmy kimmel for some
01:13:25.860
reason yeah this doesn't apply to jim well when it comes to um jimmy kimmel i'm with the democrats
01:13:32.420
right i'm a democrat actually right so we had a man who was rearrested by fbi after multiple shots fired
01:13:40.900
that abc um affiliate in sacramento all right is this uh for taking jimmy kimmel off air or because
01:13:50.500
he hates jimmy kimmel that much i don't know there were people who protested the cancellation of jimmy
01:13:56.740
kimmel maybe you know some people who watch him well at least unlike jimmy kimmel i'm actually interested
01:14:02.660
in getting to the root of who it really was yeah not just lying about it for a narrative maybe it was
01:14:08.500
jimmy kimmel himself and now the now we have the 50 million dollar question did trump cancel jimmy
01:14:15.140
kimmel drum roll no he canceled now we go to ads now we're back from ads the answer is no jimmy kimmel
01:14:24.580
will return return this is the tv after highly criticized suspension was late night late night
01:14:33.220
host reinstated after brief suspension related to comments on maga and charlie kirk that disney called
01:14:40.580
insensitive no i'm not gonna pay the guardian it's okay but they are bringing him back they are
01:14:46.980
bringing him back and like the emperor back to his low ratings again yeah and i want to say uh two things
01:14:53.220
no actually a bit more to two people and especially those who were who were die hard centrists about it
01:15:02.660
and i respect them caring about free speech but also let just guys let us first see what is going on
01:15:09.780
let us assess the situation and then see what's you know and then make your criticism number one is that
01:15:16.740
the the the narrative control attempt that the left did was to sway the conversation away from what
01:15:24.740
matters to what doesn't and also to keep gaslighting people and we have here a one uh you know brief
01:15:33.540
survey i'm sure there could be more that's by yougov the economist that says more americans see left-wing
01:15:40.660
beliefs behind charlie kirk's shooting than see right-wing beliefs but when it comes to the
01:15:46.900
democrats yes the democrats see more right-wing beliefs than they see left-wing beliefs most of them
01:15:57.540
something other than political beliefs still beats yeah because left-wing on cnn i think one of kamala
01:16:03.940
harris's exes said that this was a heartbroken story because it was an emotional
01:16:10.580
not a political assassination why did he not like his depiction in south park does he not like
01:16:15.940
debates like how could it be something other than his political beliefs so that's why they were doing
01:16:21.380
it because people most people don't follow news to the extent that we do that's not a that's not a
01:16:29.860
an accusation it's it's a matter of fact we're doing this for a living most people don't and they
01:16:35.860
look at headlines so there is a propagandistic battle for headlines because most people are
01:16:42.180
just going to remember the headline and it's a quantity the quantity of messaging can sometimes
01:16:48.260
entirely overturn the quality of it this is what they they bank on so often i mean just goodness me
01:16:54.820
the fact that you still get people today talking about like trump saying there were good people on
01:16:59.860
both sides right that whole thing that was bumped out even taken out of context totally taken out of
01:17:04.820
context uh easy to find that it was taken out of context but you just the democrats would just say
01:17:11.460
it and say it and say it and say it until eventually people just take it and because that's what they
01:17:17.220
heard you throw things at a wall and see what sticks and that's exactly what they tried to do with
01:17:21.460
this narrative on charlie's killer yeah and uh as the german said it's a hundred percent gables
01:17:26.980
throw them out hoping some of it will stick but that's actually it right and i want i want to i
01:17:34.580
want to end with uh talking a bit about demonization because the democrats are doing it to a very large
01:17:42.500
extent and it happens for various reasons number one it presents violence as justified because it
01:17:50.340
constantly breeds victimization and the belief that is implied that you're in a position where you have to
01:17:56.900
defend yourself therefore violence is justified that's one of the things why demonization is
01:18:03.220
employed in rhetoric the other is to make your opponents sound less human therefore you thinking
01:18:10.180
that exercising you know force against them is not that much of a big issue and the third one is because
01:18:17.540
it presents a usual day as a massive political win because let's say if the if the maga people don't
01:18:25.380
want to destroy things i think that if we look at how people reacted to the assassination of charlie
01:18:32.100
kirk and compare it with how they reacted to blm and all this these uh these issues we'll see that no
01:18:40.180
they don't want to burn things no they don't want to destroy things so if the propaganda the propaganda
01:18:48.100
of the democrats constantly says it's weimar we are just a few nights before the night of the of the
01:18:56.260
long knives you know they're about to destroy the the establishment they're about to bring for the
01:19:03.460
armageddon the civil war and these guys are not and they end up not attacking then the propaganda
01:19:10.420
presents them as look they're afraid of you be you being victimized by our propaganda so keep being
01:19:19.140
victimized so you can avert the armageddon so where there wouldn't have been a problem
01:19:26.340
and where there won't be a problem they're presenting it as something that they themselves did
01:19:31.940
so they say hook on to this propaganda and you averted the armageddon and i think that this is
01:19:40.420
just a very pernicious and polarizing way of of um both governing but also being the opposition it it's
01:19:49.220
it's incredibly polarizing and i hope more and more and more democrats uh and supporters of democrats
01:19:57.460
wake up to this and start understanding that they need to turn their back to this victimization nonsense
01:20:06.100
very good uh jump to go through your rumble rants yeah yeah okay okay uh habsification says there was
01:20:12.580
a leftist terror attack yesterday oh you've covered that on the segment great uh thank you though
01:20:17.540
habsification also says uh we should take into consideration that the 2010s was a transitional period
01:20:23.140
of old media new media the 2020s accelerated it and we're currently living through the fourth
01:20:28.420
industrial revolution thanks klaus schwab i know that's not how you meant it though but no you're
01:20:34.020
you're very right yes uh blankfeld says stelios i'd like to see a debate of your version of liberalism
01:20:40.820
and fourth doctrine i appreciate that it's too much to go into here i suggest you'd argue these
01:20:46.340
principles better than i am i misunderstanding um i mean i i don't know if you're misunderstanding or not
01:20:52.900
uh but i'll be very glad to again debate the issue and talk about it in a proper format and a great one
01:21:00.500
here from uh scott's eye guy says if they didn't like it they can just start their own multi-billion
01:21:06.020
dollar tv network here here yes yeah we've heard that one before and uh yeah okay let's go over to the
01:21:13.700
video comments samson oh excuse me that's all good saying there's patience anticipation is building
01:21:25.780
up don't do it we do okay great that's the wiltshire flag let's have a break from the doom and the
01:21:33.380
gloom and the facetious memory and talk about something cool we've all heard of the diversity
01:21:37.060
built britain 50 pence coins but last month while counting up the cash at work i came across this
01:21:41.140
unique 50 pence coin from 2005 which you can see here on the back is a definition from johnson's
01:21:46.020
dictionary 1775 a.d which reads quote 50 adjective saxon pence noun plural plural of penny i thought it
01:21:55.220
was a cool part of our history and it was nice to see it commemorated now you know about it too
01:21:59.300
have a beautiful day ladies and gentlemen based 50p yeah thanks for that sky that's uh that's really cool
01:22:05.860
i did have great pleasure scrolling through the uh reddit fred for h1b visas and just looking
01:22:35.700
this evening it was wonderful the the one in particular where it's just like i'm going to
01:22:40.660
off myself if i have to go back to india it's just like oh dear sophie i do feel like a part of what
01:22:50.100
is happening here is that in the past the left used cancel culture to get rid of their much more capable
01:22:55.540
competition to get positions they otherwise never would have gotten because they're not qualified
01:23:00.340
and now all of these positions are filled by unqualified people and their bosses are just
01:23:04.900
itching for a reason to get rid of them that can't lead to a discrimination lawsuit and now
01:23:10.180
the idiots gave them a reason so yeah i am very much not sorry
01:23:16.180
no i'm not sorry either sophie and i like your art by the way yeah it was very good
01:23:25.940
all right that's all of them is it website comments it is
01:23:30.580
so shall i read some dutch ones sure can you read them in dutch i'm not that good
01:23:36.740
i've just been to france as well so french is in my mind um it's terrible
01:23:41.620
i even had snails while i was there as well they're actually really nice traitor they reminded
01:23:46.100
me of mussels and so it's sort of seafood-esque and they were it's all in the the seasoning
01:23:50.980
just tastes like herbs and garlic speaking of you in france before you do the comments
01:23:55.460
of your segment there's an honorable mention about it an indian lesbian called minj called minjita
01:24:01.700
says i'm glad you survived your trip to france josh did you come back in a dinghy i did think about
01:24:07.380
it i thought that my prospects would be better if i came back in a dinghy the problem is i went to
01:24:11.300
the south of france rather than the north of france so if i got in a dinghy i might end up in
01:24:15.620
spain and that would be even worse than when i started or libya yeah i'd be sold in a slave
01:24:21.860
market in libya but um yes france was actually very nice i was talking to beau about it um off camera
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i was just like i didn't see a single diversity uh you know except to the airport in nice the entire
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time you so you go to the expensive parts and all of a sudden you know back to european you know
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ways once more but anyway enough of that some more stuff about the netherlands shall we um
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i'll go to amar award uh please try to refrain from quoting norm mcdonald but
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i think the worst part about the colorblind policing is the desensitization and normalizing
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of diverse consequences we don't have to live like this and we know that because the time in
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which we didn't is still well within living memory very well put and uh i think it's always good to
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quote norm mcdonald um one of my favorite comedians uh rest his soul and jaron van uh kalkeren says uh
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those sadly were mostly football hooligans but i would not be surprised if there were many uh glowies
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two this kind of behavior just messes up the conversation about migration i'm glad you agree
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um cool i also have a comment from my section by an indian lesbian called mingjita and uh she says
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why would trump want to stop autism autism probably won him the last election maybe he's just creating
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a way to infect the entire world with autism now that is a is a super villain plan if i ever that'd be
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a great plan government by fortune yeah and when everyone's autistic no one will be
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uh michael dribelbis says uh the autism spike more likely stems from older people uh having kids
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that's also a factor yeah yeah and is well known the mother's age does play a role in the health of a
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child the older the mother the more likely problems will arise in the child yeah you agree with this josh
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from i do indeed yeah um it's a well demonstrated effect in lots of different conditions and in
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fact you know you've got cases of women in their 60s now having children because also people's health
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is better and so it it widens the reproductive window this is something that um the egg man
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stefan molyneux doesn't talk about that much but um it's true that because we're now healthier than
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before at least some of us um maybe not some of the land whales i saw on holiday in france but
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um yeah it means that people are fertile for longer which takes some of the pressure off but
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obviously you know um pressure do uh start a family it will make you happy and i think it's
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the thing that will make me the most happy in life once i get there uh based ape here with a truly
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base comment which is the trick to fixing autism is just to refuse to get a diagnosis i've been undiagnosed
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my whole life i have no idea what's wrong with me just some random flavor of retard life is better
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this way based fantastic okay do you want to go to your stillius yeah lord inquisitor hector rex i
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like how you know senior this sounds right for everyone saying that kimmel didn't violate the fcc
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guidelines because it didn't cause significant public harm look at how many people still believe
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the shooter was right-wing if the fcc wanted they'd be well within their rights to crush
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abc jimbo g this could actually be a wonderful opportunity for kimmel to come out and say i must
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say that despite saying it was one of theirs it looks like that it's not the case and i apologize
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obviously this will never happen but with apparently only 30 percent of americans believing he was a
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leftist it would be the noble thing to do i wonder what he'll do he'll probably make jokes about being
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cancelled not mentioned why and uh carry on as normal i think he'll he'll want to acknowledge
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it slightly so it's not the elephant in the room but not dwell on it enough that it overshadows his
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return for all five of his viewers yeah arizona desert rat uh these people crying about employees
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being fired over social media posts are not taking into consideration private company policies
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a company is allowed to have a social media clause in employee contracts and they are allowed to
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fire employees when they violate this clause yep yep george hap of course the leftists would be happy
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that disney didn't fire kimmel because they agree with him what people should be should pay attention
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to are the ones supposedly on our side who jumped to his defense when they didn't do so for right-wing
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cancellations like mr weinstein um did he not uh speak in favor of of the people who got canceled i
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think there have been certain instances where um because he disagreed with their politics he wasn't so
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fussed about it basically yeah but i don't know that much about him i've not followed him particularly
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closely so i could be um misremembering them no you know you know what what i take issue with is just
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you can be it's very easy to get things right when you speak in general terms so you know a lot
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lots of the times when you know people who have a big following they speak very generally and take the
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both sides argument yeah it's wrong yeah okay it is it is wrong we we have been defending free speech
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for we for years right but guys let us also look at the the particular the case the reality on the ground
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instead of just being ideologues about it i'm i'm okay we're crushing our enemies this is this is
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fine with me to be honest baron von warhawk yeah but i mean i think him speaking is one of the ways
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to do this well he's so bad that he destroys himself isn't there's a case for it yeah isn't he uh baron
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von warhawk when it comes to jimmy kimmel i guess it's true what they say some turds are just too
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big to flush down the drain too big to fail yeah okay and what white rider says i've said it many
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times before political actors mayors senators congressmen members of parliament all need to
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have their ability to block people and limit replies on twitter removed their job is to work for their
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constituents they should not be able to deny the right of reply well they are for free speech and
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democracy after all yeah so democracy dies in darkness god forbid that there isn't going to be
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any dialogue anymore faza toaster uh they did this to themselves hoisted by their own collective pitard
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i feel no sympathy for the left after their actions over the last 15 years
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oh not me well that's all we've got time for today ladies and gentlemen i hope you enjoyed the show
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and we look forward to seeing you at 1pm tomorrow have a good evening