The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1265

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus eaters for thursday the

00:00:06.120 2nd of october 2025 i'm joined by nate and faras and today we're going to be talking about how

00:00:12.100 nigel farage is in a position where he really needs to start acting like the person in charge

00:00:17.640 nigel everyone recognizes you are the power of britain everyone recognizes this step into it

00:00:24.520 mate you can do this uh then we're going to talk about how the left is in complete disarray

00:00:28.200 they've got nothing they're going nowhere they are over in this country and then we're going to talk

00:00:33.420 about what we're going to go into as in what we need is a kind of anglo revivalism and that's not

00:00:39.080 just oh let's put up some posters or put up a building no no this is a complete moral rejuvenation

00:00:44.660 conservatism is just not enough so we've got a lot going on uh today and i'm really excited about it

00:00:51.000 so let's crack on let's begin all right by order of the blob nigel paul farage is

00:00:58.060 declared an enemy of britain all good citizens are bound to do him harm if they are able

00:01:03.880 um this was obviously the message of the labor conference yes straight out of hbo's rome exactly

00:01:10.240 yeah exactly we're not going to bore you with the clips from david lammy calling him a member of the

00:01:15.240 hitler youth uh or shabana mahmoud saying that he's worse than a racist or starmer like we're not

00:01:22.280 going to bore you with all of that but it's pretty obvious that farage has been declared as the

00:01:27.320 ultimate enemy of the state um and the thing to remember is that so funny it's sorry to interrupt

00:01:37.840 because you're on such a good flow but this is just so funny like he's the hitler youth that was

00:01:42.320 over before he was born he's worse than a racist what does that mean because you know as far as i can

00:01:46.760 tell you guys think racism is just the worst thing that can be done yes yes and then he's like right

00:01:50.380 he's just an enemy of the state it's like yeah but everyone hates you and he's way in the lead and

00:01:54.320 that means the entire country is the enemy of the state so what are you doing what are you doing

00:01:58.920 sorry carry on it's just so ridiculous it's the thing is that the divisions on the right

00:02:07.120 are important but they matter less than what people would like you to imagine so if you were to sort of

00:02:13.920 look at the guidance for things like prevent or if you were to look at the uh guidance from the state

00:02:20.460 when it comes to different kinds of terrorism well extreme right-wing terrorism is characterized as

00:02:27.540 cultural nationalism primarily anti-islamic and anti-immigrant white nationalism racial separatists

00:02:35.620 and white supremacism these are all lumped together as enemies of the state under the existing regime

00:02:43.300 cultural nationalism culture so essentially so civic nationalism like liking my own culture

00:02:50.000 i'm referring my own culture to other cultures so if you were to say that rishi sunak is in fact

00:02:55.820 english and that he is fully assimilated even though he's a hindu yeah and that he is part of the

00:03:02.700 nation that is britain culturally yeah then you are a cultural nationalist and you are part of the

00:03:10.340 extreme right-wing terrorist movements welcome to the club boys exactly so whether you like

00:03:16.260 nigel farage or not he has become the leader of the right and what he needs to remember is that he is

00:03:24.920 fully an enemy of the states oh yeah i mean you couldn't it couldn't have been any more clear at

00:03:29.360 the labor conference it couldn't have been literally you are our enemy exactly nigel farage represents

00:03:33.380 everything we hate and we're going to come after you with everything that we have

00:03:36.480 and nigel took that as mean street mobs no no no no it's the institutions exactly that's what's

00:03:42.700 going to come after him exactly so in this document here sacred violence the enduring role of ideology

00:03:48.520 in terrorism and radicalization you read that and you assume that it's referring to the jihadis

00:03:54.420 yeah i was gonna say that sounds like they're talking about the islamic state yes they are not

00:03:58.120 only talking about the islamic state of course they are also talking about nigel farage and he

00:04:04.140 has to accept yeah hey i don't make the rules i don't make the rules but these are the rules this

00:04:10.640 is what government documents are saying they're also talking about nigel farage you know he believes

00:04:16.720 that britain has a unique culture yeah he believes that this culture does include other ethnicities and

00:04:22.220 other uh races and so on and so forth he believes all of the right and correct things as a civic

00:04:28.240 nationalist he is an enemy of the state amazing and so this must be the starting point for nigel

00:04:35.100 farage this this has to factor into his calculations and you could see it in his response video yes because

00:04:43.140 he was like okay well we're going to teach you a lesson as in he accepts he's the enemy of yes islama

00:04:47.860 yes come the may elections we're going to teach you a lesson we're going to go okay good but you

00:04:52.760 can act more confident in this night because you hold all the cards precisely like they are afraid of

00:04:57.880 you you don't have to be afraid of them you just have to weather the storm exactly exactly and when

00:05:04.060 you look at just a quick thing as well that i mean imagine if keir starmer sends the gestapo around

00:05:08.580 to his house and arrest him in the middle of the night like he does with all of his supporters yeah

00:05:12.060 that's exactly donald trump is going to flip out yes like donald trump like right i'm invading you know

00:05:17.580 like he will not go unnoticed no so farage and and starmer knows that he can't do anything of the

00:05:23.020 sort so farage actually is in a position of quite uh broad license now to come out and say no i'm

00:05:28.660 going to do this i'm going to win i'm going to do this and you're not going to touch me when we win

00:05:32.980 i'm going to ruin your entire system well this is the thing the the problem facing farage when you look

00:05:38.000 at this kind of document this wasn't written by you know uh people in parliament or people in cabinet or

00:05:45.280 this this this document is evidence that the ideology that declares farage as an enemy of the

00:05:52.680 state has permeated the entire structure of the state no doubt um so he's not going to be allowed

00:05:59.000 to govern in any way he's going to end up in the same position as trump won in the first couple of

00:06:05.980 years where every single lever of power refuses to respond to him and tries to thwart him at every

00:06:13.560 opportunity the angiocracy the blob the media the establishment the deep state whatever you want

00:06:21.340 to call it but all of the levers of power the entire bureaucracy is going to be

00:06:27.780 working together to thwart everything that farage tries to do this is what curtis yarvin calls the

00:06:35.700 cathedral they all have the same belief system and so they all move in the same way exactly and farage

00:06:40.320 has to have a plan for this he has and there isn't one yet and the fundamental problem is that

00:06:46.360 there clearly isn't one yet if you're going to replace this body of actors you're going to have to

00:06:54.600 look at for example this document that's detailing what is meant to be done to support migrants and

00:07:02.720 refugees more effectively and these are the ngos and the organizations and financiers that are backing it

00:07:09.800 let me scroll down just because this isn't the limit of it is it no no no this is absolutely not the

00:07:14.540 limit of it uh fourth valley welcome freedom from torture friends of the drop-in for asylum seekers

00:07:21.300 and refugees i wonder borderlands i wonder what english i wonder rainbow migration yeah but what's

00:07:26.840 english plus good question all right good question i hope not indo-american refugee and migrant

00:07:33.440 organization yep um these entities the jesuit refugee service yeah who i have some respect for

00:07:41.960 jewish council for racial equality yep around clear yeah just defund all of this so is there a plan

00:07:49.820 on the part of nigel farage to actually fight the influence of these groups swindon city of

00:07:55.600 sanctuary oh not on my bloody watch i'm looking that up i've never heard of that rainbow migration

00:08:02.700 latin americans women's rights services like why would you what are you doing congolese association

00:08:09.920 of merseyside oh deport so the the the issue here is that there is a massive establishment that

00:08:19.580 has huge amounts of finance that is able to move against farage if he tries to address the issue of

00:08:28.040 immigration if he tries to address the issue of welfare if he tries to address benefits if he tries to

00:08:34.120 address the judiciary there are similar numbers of organizations all with very deep pockets with

00:08:41.640 funding coming from the state that are going to be working to paralyze him and to make sure that he

00:08:49.820 cannot take any action yes whether we like it or not i think we're stuck with farage in this fight

00:08:57.540 oh yeah of course yeah forgiven he's milk toast he doesn't go as far as it should be gone he does he's

00:09:04.180 and that's not all our objections to farage yeah but they have denounced him exactly they they have

00:09:09.880 stipulated nigel farage represents any kind of patriotic feeling towards the country yes that's

00:09:15.980 what they have and and they and what's interesting is that farage hasn't filled this body that this

00:09:21.000 form that they've created but they have imposed it upon him yes at the labor conference they were

00:09:26.400 constantly denouncing everything on the right and saying right that's nigel farage exactly yeah not but

00:09:31.840 but he's got no choice now exactly this is the this is the battle that is being waged whether you like

00:09:38.600 it or not and remember this isn't about him he's a civic nationalist fair enough but he is therefore

00:09:46.320 described as a cultural nationalist and part of extreme right-wing terrorism it's the same with the

00:09:52.360 tommy robinson march it's not about tommy exactly like you know you can't get a million people out if

00:09:57.020 it's just about tommy exactly something bigger and people are going to it because it's something bigger

00:10:01.280 exactly exactly exactly so what i wanted to sort of begin with proposing is a couple of points

00:10:09.060 firstly do you have a plan and an a-team who is able to handle these kinds of institutions

00:10:16.740 who is able to cut through that red tape to cut the gordian knot that paralyzes any kind of political

00:10:24.440 action that removes sovereignty from parliament and that ensures that no matter who you vote for

00:10:30.940 you get shit livery yes is is there a plan to address this and secondly is there an a-team

00:10:40.280 is there an equivalent to project 2025 that goes through cvs of tens of thousands of people

00:10:48.220 and decides this one is a good candidate for this position is there a plan to punish enemies and reward

00:10:56.660 friends or is it simply that you want to sit as prime minister and allow your legacy to be failure

00:11:04.600 there has to be some kind of project 2025 and to be able to do that nigel faraj has to be able to get

00:11:14.360 over the word racist he knows that this word is being used to instigate violence against him this is

00:11:21.920 correct this is correct this is not enough he can't just sit there in a crouching defensive position

00:11:29.620 saying don't call me racist you're trying to motivate people to attack me blah blah blah this is true and

00:11:35.760 this has been happening for a very long time which is why you've been attacked which is why you've already

00:11:40.080 been attacked multiple times exactly which is why people celebrate when you are attacked in public

00:11:46.440 which is why you have to travel by car you can't take public transport this has been a given for

00:11:51.720 some time so now is the time for you to reach out to potential friends who equally scare the

00:11:58.320 establishment who are described as racist who are described as uh cultural supremacists who are

00:12:05.000 described as cultural nationalists whatever it is and if if brexit hadn't happened that might be more

00:12:10.320 difficult to do yes but look at everyone who was on your side of brexit there were there were

00:12:14.120 economists for it there were political scientists for it there were all sorts of people who are very

00:12:18.580 well educated and obviously on side yes who supported brexit they're all there on the table waiting to be taken

00:12:24.480 like these are the people you want these are people waiting for leadership yes and you're stuck with

00:12:30.920 them just as they are stuck with you no matter the differences between you this this is the objective

00:12:35.540 reality the vanity of the differences is surely something we can leave in the rearview mirror at

00:12:39.740 this point because things are so bad exactly the government has declared war in at least half the

00:12:44.400 country yes the government has actively declared war on half the country because when polled 44 percent

00:12:49.200 of people want no more immigration and millions to go home yes so kirsten was like right you don't think

00:12:54.440 that they're english obviously we don't think english but that means that we're at war with the government

00:13:00.420 yes yes he literally declared it so you have people who are already being targeted by the state i mean i i'm

00:13:08.100 now preparing what to do if there is a knock on my door because of something i said on x everybody in

00:13:13.000 this office is prepared for this you know uh everybody expects this at any moment in time nobody's going to

00:13:18.540 be surprised when it happens and it's happened to lots of our friends and it's happened to lots of our

00:13:22.760 friends you saw paul golding getting detained because he had a van saying northern barry morgoth

00:13:28.180 academic agent callum have all been detained by terror police and more like this has happened like to

00:13:33.560 loads of people that we know and that we are actually personally friends with exactly so it's

00:13:37.800 definitely going to happen to us at some point exactly so we're reaching out here in a christian

00:13:42.800 spirit or at least i speak i speak for myself only but i would encourage everybody in this country to

00:13:49.380 reach out in a christian spirit and to accept that even if you are a lukewarm civic nationalist

00:13:56.300 you are an enemy of the state if you say that having four wives is probably bad for society

00:14:02.460 you are therefore a civic nationalist and a cultural supremacist you are an enemy of the state if you say

00:14:09.280 that blind hatred towards jews is a bad thing you are an enemy of the state they're going to take

00:14:17.500 objection to that they're going to take objections to that i know shabana mahmoud might take

00:14:21.560 objections to that she was cheering on exporting the intifada globalizing the intifada so at the end

00:14:27.920 of the day we we are all in this together me as a friend as an outsider the rest of the team as british

00:14:35.920 people but we are all in this together one way or another so there has to be at this moment in time

00:14:42.000 some bridge building to develop an a team to develop a plan to put in place people who can

00:14:49.380 take over the home office who can take over the treasury who can take over as justice minister

00:14:54.260 who can take over all of these various uh small and and mid-sized and positions and also positions

00:15:02.840 but also has a sense of who has to go from those precisely that's the thing because what you will

00:15:08.460 have to do is surgically remove large numbers of people from the civil service yes they will just

00:15:14.840 have to go you will just have to fire them and this you you have to have a replacement for them

00:15:18.820 and you have to have people in charge of doing that who have a sense for that guy's the problem

00:15:23.820 that guy's fine that guy's the problem that guy's fine right you have to have that what trump learned

00:15:29.140 and what was implemented in project 2025 is that people with a big grievance against the system are going

00:15:35.540 to be the best candidates because they are going to be your allies and they will work for you to

00:15:40.880 succeed even if they disagree with you on some details and they want it and they want it and

00:15:46.360 they want it badly enough exactly and not just being paid they're not just hired help they want it they

00:15:52.060 have skin in the game they've lost enough they are constantly under threat from starmer stasi

00:15:59.120 they understand the stakes and they are therefore committed people like low people like ben habib

00:16:07.440 these are people that must reach out to faraj and that faraj must reach out to because the alternative

00:16:14.180 isn't going to be a good one so let's sort of try to agree on four points that might form a unified

00:16:22.520 plank for the civic nationalists for the ethno-nationalists and for everybody in between

00:16:27.120 who thinks that immigration is too high who thinks that there is a real problem and how britain is changing

00:16:32.880 who thinks that something must be done otherwise britain is going to end up in civil war

00:16:38.460 i just put out an episode with dan on how britain is becoming like lebanon is heading towards civil war

00:16:44.760 please watch it i'm serious about this the points of agreement that a nation is for its people

00:16:51.760 no matter how you define them if you define it to include sunak if you define it to include

00:16:57.020 kemi if you define it to include whoever fair enough but a nation isn't for everybody

00:17:02.580 outside of it and inside of it a nation is for the people who are inside of it and just to be clear

00:17:08.100 that's the primary point of contention that kirstama has yes you know he said i'm building a britain for all

00:17:13.240 exactly as in literally it's for the british people however they're defined

00:17:16.640 but also for foreigners and for everybody who manages to set foot on british shores

00:17:20.720 this state is for him there has to be an agreement that a nation is for its people

00:17:25.500 there can be disagreements over the definition but not over the principle

00:17:29.960 there has to be agreement that the government has ignored this idea for very many decades

00:17:35.700 yeah and kept that's pretty universal i think that's pretty universal

00:17:39.920 there has to be agreement that there are enormous numbers in britain who cannot contribute will not

00:17:47.020 contribute do not contribute and that the british do not owe them a livelihood it can't be that half

00:17:55.680 of social housing in london is going to people born abroad that can't happen even if they have pieces

00:18:02.080 of paper saying that they're british and i have one too there has to be some reality either you contribute

00:18:07.960 or you don't and if you're not contributing that piece of paper doesn't really matter

00:18:11.640 if you're genuinely english then this is england england's problem you are england's problem

00:18:19.460 even if you are lazy unemployed working dependent not working dependent on benefits

00:18:26.480 that's what shame is for and that's what shame is for we will shame you for being a parasite on benefits

00:18:31.780 exactly but it is shame within our culture that's but it's not shameful to someone who thinks

00:18:36.460 you're an idiot for not exploiting this uh anjum chowdery i believe defended him receiving benefits

00:18:42.220 by saying that this is jizya oh well there we go that he is collecting taxes from the british as a

00:18:47.700 good muslim invader it's an enemy then there has to be agreement that these people don't belong

00:18:53.100 in britain and shouldn't be in britain and that it's not the responsibility of the brits to keep on

00:18:58.720 paying them and funding their three wives four wives sometimes more and providing for them

00:19:04.480 and last there has to be agreement that people in britain should speak english

00:19:08.280 like a minimum low bar this isn't this isn't revolutionary yes this isn't um nazism this isn't

00:19:18.420 uh rabid ethno-national this is elementary yes this is elementary but if you're going to contribute

00:19:23.800 to the society you have to at least be able to speak the dialogue of that society so yes have a job

00:19:29.880 well yeah you've got to speak english to do that so yeah like it you do you need speaking to start

00:19:36.900 the job that's the thing you should right so yeah so if if these are the basic points of agreement and

00:19:43.720 they can be stated as points of agreement then policy can flow from that the policy can be that

00:19:50.220 if you do not meet these requirements having a piece of paper doesn't change the fact that you are

00:19:55.940 not britain's burden to bear you are someone else's burden maybe you're owed charity but you're owed

00:20:02.000 charity at home in your own country because charity begins at home and even then even if you're here

00:20:08.940 and there's a private charity that's like okay there's people on the streets we'd like to help i

00:20:13.600 might donate to that yep but i'm currently being robbed by the government constantly exactly and so

00:20:18.540 i don't want to donate to a private charity because i'm already being robbed exactly so there there can

00:20:24.380 be a process here that doesn't involve sending vans to round people up the process can be you titrate

00:20:30.440 benefits you say that over the next three years these groups are going to have their benefits

00:20:35.020 removed gradually and there can be incentives if you leave in the first year you get x amount of

00:20:41.000 payment per adult x payment per child this is going to be much cheaper for the state than a lifetime of

00:20:46.840 welfare it's also far less invasive and it's much less invasive it there's no good argument against it

00:20:52.440 exactly exactly exactly and the best part about it is that you can then leave it to keir starmer and

00:20:59.700 his ilk to make the argument for why people who are foreign and are on benefits should remain in

00:21:05.500 the country let him make the argument yeah let him crash and burn they already have it's racist and

00:21:10.360 moral and then immediately implemented a similar policy exactly let him keep screaming racism let

00:21:18.700 him let him keep trying to mobilize the state and antifa and the leftist loons against you but that will

00:21:25.160 never be a political argument you will win the argument and you will unite the ethno-nationalists

00:21:30.440 and the civic nationalists behind you at least temporarily until the problem is not that bad

00:21:35.760 and the problem is so bad that i have good information saying that there are already checkpoints

00:21:41.320 in some communities to guard against foreign men with bad intentions towards young women

00:21:47.040 this is late in the game if you are thinking about civil conflict this is pretty late in the game

00:21:53.440 and so you must find a way to reverse some of this stuff explain clearly that you will deport

00:22:01.640 every single foreign criminal immediately let starmer make the counter argument

00:22:07.040 say that families can be deported together that citizenship can be revoked collectively because if

00:22:14.080 you've sort of raised a terrorist or if you've been raised to be a terrorist odds are that you are going

00:22:19.580 to raise another terrorist let them make the counter argument it's an indefinite leave to remain

00:22:26.420 thing was quite a good start the indefinite leave to remain thing was a very good start but if you keep

00:22:30.400 on pushing you will get labor to denounce you as a racist while implementing your policies which is

00:22:36.800 what's happening right now which is exactly what's happening so keep on pushing instead of going into

00:22:41.520 some kind of defensive crouch there's no reason to be defensive there's no reason to be afraid

00:22:46.160 you're winning and you're not even on the attack exactly winning exactly the the labor conference was

00:22:52.640 the most defensive just hyper aggressive wounded animal backed into a corner i've ever seen exactly oh god

00:22:59.200 nigel farce can take everything and destroy everything and nigel's just sat there like he's

00:23:03.440 not doing anything like he's if he was on the march like leading you know 50 000 men down the street

00:23:09.520 being like yeah we're going to repeal this we're going exactly like i'd understand their fear but he's

00:23:13.840 just in london in his tower just relaxing exactly and for nigel to be able to do this this does involve

00:23:21.520 doing some pretty basic things like saying that the police showing up to arrest pete north or steve

00:23:27.440 laws or paul golding or all of the other people that are getting arrested is in fact wrong and it

00:23:33.760 shouldn't happen and it's a civil liberties question and it's a civil liberties not about ideological

00:23:39.120 agreement or conformity it's a civil liberties you don't have to adopt their views but you need to be

00:23:44.480 throwing them a bone because these are the people who are most willing to go knock on doors for you

00:23:50.640 and accept that some of them will have views that you find distasteful and accept that you will be

00:23:55.360 denounced as an evil extreme right-wing terrorist by the state even if you don't do it like the game is up

00:24:04.160 you're already on a terrorist list they can't make it official because they're afraid of uncle donald what

00:24:10.960 they can do is remove the security that you had that you need exactly but they've already implied

00:24:17.040 that he is that he is on that list anyway because when keir starmer compared we're this is the the

00:24:25.840 most radical fight we've ever had we've never had a fight like this but they've had fights like this

00:24:29.680 in and then they listed a bunch of them that were in europe and we know how they sort of circumvented those

00:24:34.720 exactly right and this is what this is what nigel is going to be up against exactly going to be up

00:24:38.720 against the british version of our blob trying to circumvent his win exactly that's what's going

00:24:45.040 to happen and to address that he needs allies he needs an a-team he needs people who have skin in

00:24:49.920 the game and the people with the most skin in the game are the people who are regularly denounced as

00:24:54.640 racists yeah and they will be denounced as racists no matter how moderate their views are the word has no

00:25:02.080 meaning there is no operational definition of racism if cultural nationalism is part of right-wing

00:25:09.520 terrorism i think it's also worth pointing out that people on the right there's no point

00:25:13.600 punching right anymore no no the the entire argument has now been compressed down into two sides exactly

00:25:19.840 you have to pick your side unfortunately whether you like him or not nigel farage has become

00:25:24.000 the representative of our side whether we like it or not we don't have to agree with them and everything

00:25:28.000 but this is the way that the battle lines have been drawn exactly so there we go there we are that's

00:25:32.960 what and he could extend to the right the same courtesy he can say i don't like everything that

00:25:38.080 they do i don't i'm not in full agreement with them i have my differences but on these points of

00:25:43.440 principle civil liberties freedom of expression the importance of british culture some form of civic

00:25:49.440 nationalism that involves cultural compliance with british norms the fundamental that's the bare minimum

00:25:55.040 and speaking english for god's sake the fundamental principle that the country is for its own people

00:25:59.200 that's that's the thing that we can all agree on exactly not even a radical position it's not it's

00:26:03.840 it's so your grandmother agrees with this principle exactly but starmer does not exactly he does not

00:26:10.320 believe that exactly so now is the time for some moral and philosophical clarity now is the time for

00:26:16.080 some christian charity from both sides to try to work together uh the only other option will be the right

00:26:22.320 trying to hold nigel to account by developing parties like advance by developing uh rupert lowe's uh

00:26:31.280 restore movement in order to keep nigel's feet in the fire this is not a good way to enter into an

00:26:37.920 election because you will not have the manpower required to manage the organs of the state who are

00:26:44.240 all going to be militating against you and trying to make you fail you don't want to go into this

00:26:50.320 with everybody on all sides attacking you you are in a position left at the moment exactly you are

00:26:56.560 in a position for a great national reconciliation even around your own civic nationalist principles

00:27:04.080 if you just adopt some minor clear-eyed positions about who should be in britain and who shouldn't be in

00:27:12.400 britain defined by cultural compatibility and contributing to society these are not extreme positions

00:27:19.600 nobody's saying test everybody's dna in britain and make sure that they're all as english as dan this

00:27:25.120 is not what's being said the bare minimum is being offered to you you're in a position to pick up the

00:27:31.440 crown from the gutter and wear it if you behave in a slightly christian way and with more confidence

00:27:38.880 and that's my message and it really is down for us to understand he is the one in charge he is the

00:27:47.200 one who has the crown like i can't pick up the crown you can't pick up the crown it's only there

00:27:51.360 for nigel and so we're waiting for you to take it it's okay we will support you exactly we're not

00:27:57.440 trying to overthrow you we want you to be our champion and go out and smash all of this yes you

00:28:02.160 know we want you to do the job yeah so it's up to you nigel we want middle eastern women and

00:28:07.440 society organization to be completely defunded we want migrant democracy project to be defunded i want the

00:28:13.360 welsh refugee council abolished exactly no foreign national should be able to vote either this is

00:28:18.880 just absurd oh this is going into the details right let's start with the basics yeah let's

00:28:24.240 start with the basics we can see where we fall once we've won the initial battles but at the

00:28:28.560 very least have a group of people who are able to run the apparatus of the state yeah and then

00:28:34.160 we'll see what happens hope not hate instantly that should be one of the things that he comes out

00:28:37.440 and says yeah why are we funding hope not hate this is that question ridiculous exactly anyway

00:28:41.600 for the sake of time we're gonna have to move on yep yep can i pinch this yes of course um yeah

00:28:45.360 loads loads of super chats on that one um uh when i can't pronounce that but for 50 australian dollars

00:28:51.920 says uh nigel farage is being talked about in australia our political right are watching closely

00:28:56.240 stay safe lads yeah well that's the thing like donald trump has been an interesting american example of

00:29:02.560 what happens when the outsider takes over the state but it's not actually reflective of the way that

00:29:08.880 the country works in this country yes without a presidential system we're actually in a much more

00:29:15.040 glacial well flexible but it's also glacial yes it's slower but it is more flexible um and with

00:29:22.000 there is room to maneuver um magnum north says i'm american but also welsh and irish and i have if

00:29:28.400 if i have to get on a boat defend off the communists in the uk sign me up uh if you want project

00:29:33.040 2029 there are a few organizations in the best place there are few organizations in the best place

00:29:37.600 to formulate it than yourselves well that's um certainly something we could do yep uh dan just

00:29:43.120 sends ten dollars for the dancing gift so thank you and uh ks says maybe 256 years 250 years since

00:29:50.960 my convict forebear got yanked to australia for debts but remember uh we but we remember where we

00:29:56.080 came from we hope you have a government soon that remembers it's great to pass as well one day

00:29:59.680 well thank you and uh js says thoughts on the ongoing terror attack in manchester no uh we don't know

00:30:04.880 anything about it because we're covering this at the moment but uh i'm sure that the information

00:30:10.480 comes out we'll probably cover it tomorrow yep um right so uh speaking about how the right needs to

00:30:16.160 get its act together and i think the right has a much closer chance of getting its act together than

00:30:22.240 the left and this is actually superb because the left for the past 30 years has had an increasing

00:30:27.600 ongoing cultural hegemony and political hegemony and has completely routed what we could call

00:30:33.040 mainstream conservatism which we'll get on to when we're talking about your segment uh but this

00:30:36.880 has left the left completely unable to actually be reasonable completely unable to uh cooperate

00:30:45.360 in any substantive way i mean you've got the the great example of the people's front of judo

00:30:50.960 which i'm a big fan of i've been watching the progress of your party uh very very closely because

00:30:58.240 jeremy corbyn whether you like him or not he is a very powerful politician in this country yes right

00:31:03.680 jeremy corbyn can get kicked out of the labour party and then independently re-elected yeah which

00:31:08.400 is very rare things people mostly vote for the party but no for corbyn they were voting for corbyn

00:31:13.040 and then of course they had 800 000 signups their newsletter this is big right and so zara sultana

00:31:18.880 has been constantly out in front of jeremy corbyn not accepting his leadership of your party and then

00:31:26.080 you've got a movement in your party called our party which wants the mps to just step down entirely

00:31:31.200 and let like rando i'm not joking they've got your party has our party yes because it's a bunch of

00:31:37.120 not elected activists who want the mps to step down so they can take over so it's pure power seeking so

00:31:43.040 it's similar to like how navara media entered into labour and started to push labour when jeremy

00:31:48.080 corbyn was in power right but it's it's within this and but they want the they want the mps to step down

00:31:52.640 so they can claim power of the party but it's like okay you don't understand leadership whatsoever

00:31:56.800 corbyn is your leader let him lead right uh but instead zara sultana tweeted out what looks like

00:32:03.840 a fake link uh and got 20 000 people to donate to her and not the other party because she decided that

00:32:10.160 she was being marginalized by what she called quote a sexist boys club uh and this was uh as you can see

00:32:16.480 by the community note there contradicted by jeremy corbyn saying well hang on a second that's not an

00:32:21.360 authorized link what is happening here and this signaled a split in a party that hadn't even been

00:32:25.600 founded and it doesn't have a name yet well well it wasn't initially it was called your party but

00:32:32.400 that wasn't the name as zara told us but uh we'll get to that in a second um so as you can see uh she

00:32:40.320 carried on she then began campaigning against your party uh trying to raise essentially a faction within

00:32:47.760 the party that would support her over the sexist boys club and then she started threatening legal

00:32:54.960 action against jeremy corbyn uh because apparently a number of false and defamatory statements have

00:32:59.680 been published about her concerning her party's membership portal and therefore she's uh instructed

00:33:06.720 specialist defamation lawyers now that didn't last long because everyone was like are you seriously

00:33:11.360 talking about going to war with jeremy corbyn and she was like no actually i want unity we must make

00:33:18.560 this work there is no choice i've i'm determined to reconcile and move forward it's like you're the

00:33:24.720 one who's done this jeremy corbyn did not do anything to you just sat there going what is going on

00:33:31.200 literally she announces the party before he's ready she announces the membership drive before he's ready

00:33:35.200 before it's even named and now she's announced the legal proceeding now now she's like yeah okay i'm not

00:33:40.080 gonna do that and jeremy's just like what am i doing he's done i'm engaged in ongoing discussions

00:33:47.600 with jeremy for whom like all socialists my generation i have nothing but respect although

00:33:51.120 what are you why aren't you respecting him then he's the venerable leader of your movement you sit

00:33:56.320 down you shut up and you wait for him to make a decision that's how this works but i love this i

00:34:00.960 know many people are feeling demoralized brilliant that's great that's great i'll be i'm watching this

00:34:06.800 purely for entertainment value right uh so anyway we're not demoralized no no no we're doing great

00:34:13.280 but i'm glad to see my enemies are demorized

00:34:17.600 everything's going brilliantly uh and then uh your party has finally been registered as your party your

00:34:22.400 party but with jeremy corbyn as the sole leader oh so she has been marginalized because she's a

00:34:28.880 troublemaker because she looked like she was scamming a bunch of their supporters and was

00:34:34.720 trying to overthrow jeremy corbyn as the leader of the party yep um and so this this is just

00:34:40.880 spectacular right jeremy corbyn has taken executive control which he should have done from the start

00:34:45.280 obviously uh he jeremy corbyn didn't need her you know he could have done this all on his own exactly

00:34:50.320 and so what wonderful wonderful job on the left uh so the the corbynist france muslims most affected

00:34:57.200 fascinating and there's yeah there's been many i i'm not going to cover many internal ideological

00:35:02.960 wranglings because of course most of the muslims are not for the lgbt stuff but they are for the

00:35:08.320 overthrow the british state stuff throw british society stuff and so jeremy corbyn was like okay

00:35:13.520 i love overthrowing british society but i also need to trans the children and the muslims like well

00:35:18.880 do you but i need you i need the muslims help exactly then have a party without you i'm literally

00:35:23.920 forming a party with the gaza mps because i'm a traitor says jeremy corbyn so like what are my

00:35:28.560 options here so anyway this is this is a contradiction that's going to work itself out in further people's

00:35:35.120 fronts of judea springing up in the future i can't wait i know i know i know i'm loving every second of

00:35:41.280 it yeah an adulterated entertainment you think she joins zach bolanski or what was she well she tried to

00:35:46.720 start her own she no no she was at a conference with him just the other day on stage and the

00:35:52.800 thing is jeremy corbyn's got to be like well he's our primary competitor because he's competing

00:35:56.480 specifically for the same constituency the islamo-communist alliance yep which is all the

00:36:00.880 green party is at this point they don't even talk about the environment anymore it's really weird

00:36:04.800 they talk about islamo-communist things uh so yeah she was a conference with zach

00:36:08.960 polanski on the same stage and then she'll try to overthrow him well all i'm saying bro is you can't

00:36:14.560 trust her look at her bloody record yep you know definitely take her into your party now

00:36:20.160 yeah so the the the the left at the moment is genuinely like you're saying pure entertainment

00:36:25.120 for me because they're going nowhere starmer has persecuted them he has kicked them out he's

00:36:28.720 arresting them he galloway he arrested the other terrorist thing he at the labor conference uh

00:36:33.600 is uh owen jones and oh yeah and andy burnham's on his way out too but it was owen jones

00:36:39.200 probably oh okay he was mounting a leadership challenge in starmer in a moment of crisis

00:36:44.080 so yeah he'll probably stalling him you know i mean um watch this space um but owen jones and a

00:36:50.960 bunch of other sort of navara media types got their press passes revoked yep because they're

00:36:54.560 asking awkward questions about israel and gaza and so it's like nope not tolerating that and so

00:36:58.720 the left has been jettisoned out of mainstream politics but the problem with labor's mainstream

00:37:03.520 politics is that they're down to 20 percent or so in the polls so are they even mainstream

00:37:09.120 politics anymore is the question but then you have the ideological wranglings you have people

00:37:14.880 like gary's economics now gary's economics is a very interesting chap gary stevenson because he is

00:37:21.920 i guess what we say of the old socialist left and he does agree in principle with everything the left

00:37:27.760 says oh yeah of course i'm for trans rights of course i'm for infinite immigrants of course i'm for

00:37:32.000 making sure that nobody owns any property in this country obviously but i also live in reality

00:37:38.560 now gary has this problem that the left basically doesn't live in reality yes and this i mean you

00:37:44.800 as you can see this is a message to reform supporters uh he's basically like please could

00:37:48.480 you just not be racist we could form a coalition that is a not be racist that's a winning ticket

00:37:53.600 right there gary everyone's going to listen to that mate should we look at the responses

00:37:57.040 is it english racists say the english should stay majority english i'm afraid it is i'm afraid from

00:38:03.040 gary's own philosophy that's exactly it and then me me i i i i i do this for you yeah yeah manufactured

00:38:08.720 yeah you've won nobody over here gary like like it's just all our guys just saying f off gary like

00:38:16.960 you communist right so gary he made his pitch and to to the reform side the the right obviously this

00:38:25.920 had no purchase because his fundamental premises give up your country i'm not not inclined to do

00:38:30.720 that no matter where you fall on the right you don't want to do that but then he made his pitch

00:38:36.080 to the left you won't stop reform winning the next election by calling their supporters racist

00:38:42.000 so what i'm sorry gary no no but he's right no but gary this was your last video

00:38:49.200 no that's the lesson he learned he learned he that's growth gary that's growth mate i'm proud

00:38:56.400 of you this is genuinely fun i think there is a risk that the left gets very very angry and starts

00:39:03.040 to be really really aggressive and accusatory towards people who might be voting for reform

00:39:07.200 i want to show you a clip which i saw on politics joe the other weekend so let's run it wealth tax or no

00:39:12.720 wealth tax it's a very hard one i mean i come from a working class town everything in kind of reforms

00:39:17.360 policies would maybe lean in more towards no wealth tax so for me if the wealth tax was possible i'm

00:39:23.920 at a stage in my politics i would actually support it there are a lot of reform voters who'd be

00:39:28.000 supporting the world taxes if you want to get progressive change in the next election you need

00:39:34.160 to win people over and i think you need to be really careful to resist the temptation to go around

00:39:40.400 shouting at people calling them racists um listen there are racists in this country they've always

00:39:45.600 have been racist in this country i totally understand the instinct of people on the left

00:39:50.560 to worry about increasing racism in society i think it's happening i can feel it happening

00:39:55.920 you need to be pragmatic you need to be sensible reform are going to win the next election and you

00:40:01.600 are not going to stop that by turning around and calling people racists you need to be relentless and

00:40:06.240 aggressive in your pursuit of common ground and unity and that means you're willing to go to people who

00:40:12.240 you might not agree with everything about and say listen i know we don't agree on everything but

00:40:18.720 let's find the thing that we do agree on and let's fight for that because those people at those protests

00:40:26.560 they just like you are struggling to pay the rent their kids are struggling to pay the rent they're

00:40:31.120 struggling to find economic futures if you center that if you focus on that you can build something

00:40:36.320 positive you can win them over if you focus on divides you all you're going to do is make this

00:40:41.040 country more and more divided i don't see now he's not wrong no no i don't disagree this is sage advice

00:40:48.000 that he is giving to the left i mean this is sage advice for keir starmer and his government don't

00:40:52.000 just call everyone racist or worse than racist or the hit leave right this is sage advice for any

00:40:57.280 politician on the left any activist on the left who actually thinks that maybe they want to win at some

00:41:02.800 point in the future and you can feel gary's exasperation he's like listen i know you're not

00:41:06.880 going to listen to this yeah i know you're not going to listen he actually did it himself didn't

00:41:12.320 he say well you can see all the tabs i've got lined up there okay there were a lot of reactions uh to

00:41:19.040 this so but very reasonable perspective from gary no i i agree but also it's so it's so frustrating to

00:41:25.200 see someone that is that is right on this whilst also being so wrong and everything else yes reasons why

00:41:30.880 people would be voting that way and that way inclined it's not for goodness sake like that

00:41:35.680 sometimes i mean they get some of the basic economic stuff correct it's not even that they

00:41:39.600 get they get some of the analysis correct exactly i can see the problem all right that's right but

00:41:44.320 the solutions are always completely wrong obviously this is always communism but like i you know i know

00:41:48.800 you want to scream racist at them and that can feel gratifying i know i've done it myself but that

00:41:53.680 won't win them over to your perspective and unfortunately we are still in a democracy why the where the

00:41:58.720 the victory is done by selection you just have to have the most people who actually vote for you

00:42:02.400 and gary's just like please just please for five minutes contain yourselves and they're like

00:42:06.560 no i will not be containing what if they are racist brackets they are keep going keep going i want

00:42:12.640 more of this flagging by exactly right i i want more of this more more more but they keep doing a

00:42:20.560 racism it's like i'll stop calling them racist when they stop doing racism perfect perfect just keep

00:42:25.760 going because again from the perspective of the right this is gold this is absolutely gold yep

00:42:32.080 it's not merely a difference of opinion like labor has spent a year not calling their supporters racist

00:42:36.960 and it noticeably does not appear to have helped yep so i'll just do the inversion of that and that

00:42:42.880 will help surely but but they have called everyone racist yeah last year oh i know but literally the

00:42:47.280 southport riots are racist it's far right like at the conference nigel farage is not far right

00:42:52.880 nigel farage isn't just a racist he's a super racist yep whatever that's supposed to be like

00:42:58.640 he's hit the hitler youth like they do do this like they literally came out like if you want to

00:43:05.040 end indefinitely leave to remain that's a racist policy are you saying that everyone who vote who

00:43:09.120 wants indefinitely to remain to end is racist well i'm not saying that it's like no that they're just

00:43:13.040 racist by implication yes like i'll let you make your mind up about that all right yeah i know what you

00:43:18.000 think yes we know what you think so it's just these are all just the quote tweets on this thing

00:43:23.360 it's just absolutely gold yeah it's but it shows you the internal logic of the left right like they're

00:43:30.240 gary is saying go against your fundamental what not just world view but the way you operate on a

00:43:36.400 day-to-day basis i can't it's i i have to read this out kind of the only strategy we have scientifically

00:43:42.640 tested actually calling people racist and that's why nigel farage is number one in a hundred polls

00:43:48.000 what what is your conception of science i'd like what words mean well it depends what the result

00:43:53.440 you're looking for right if the result is making sure you've called them a racist well that certainly

00:43:57.840 works if the result is winning elections that does not work but this is the point that you see the the

00:44:03.920 the the swarm of confusion in the left because gary has suggested victory right gary has suggested

00:44:11.760 victory and they've gone no i want purity yes purity in all things and so and i this is definitely a

00:44:18.160 lesson the right can definitely learn from yeah nowhere near as bad as the left but this is and this

00:44:22.800 is the thing with nigel farage doesn't matter doesn't matter like they're your guys and they're not your

00:44:27.440 guys ultimately does the argument work on it if i say nigel we're losing our country does he feel drawn

00:44:33.280 by me or is he going to stick with richard tice saying that'll be long after i'm gone well yeah

00:44:38.800 no but that but even then he's still conceding that would be a bad thing it's just not his problem

00:44:42.960 yes right whereas keir starmer would say good yes you these people are just as valid as you i don't

00:44:48.320 know what you're talking about he would want you to have lost your country at least with tice is like

00:44:51.600 i'm a boomer it's not my problem but that would be bad for you good luck you know it's he at least

00:44:56.720 concedes the moral legitimacy of the argument yes whereas these people gary concedes all of the moral

00:45:01.920 legitimacy of the left's argument and they're still like no i'm going to call them racist even

00:45:05.200 harder now and then suddenly gary's the problem right this is so unbelievable gary's the problem

00:45:12.960 gary is not sufficient left enough uh they're left they always eat themselves i love it you gotta love

00:45:17.520 they always do it it's always the same this is so unbelievably arrogant deeply offensive and i can't

00:45:22.800 quite put my thoughts together being a racist is not a difference of opinion and it's very dangerous

00:45:27.440 for gary to continue to frame it this way f left or right i will call you a racist if you're a

00:45:31.920 racist i think the fundamental problem tops is that you really can never put your thoughts together

00:45:38.880 but what i love about this is this is the hunt for racism in everything yes the day doesn't start

00:45:46.000 unless you've called something the racist yeah racist right oh where's my tea you know like it's this

00:45:52.080 is it's it's look in the mirror call yourself racist and then go on with your day they probably do it's

00:45:56.800 so pathological right there's i have to label this and if i can't label this if that's the

00:46:03.200 losing strategy i'm gonna do it and spite my face right and this is so it's so pathological it's like

00:46:09.200 tourettes but we're calling everything racist uh but then yeah gary's the problem i hate class

00:46:14.480 reductionist takes because black and brown people can be working class and suffer racism and classism

00:46:19.040 so nope if you support reforms policies you're a racist okay that's great politics babe keep going keep

00:46:24.880 making this flagging bio yeah exactly all all the same all the same oh yeah literally yeah it must

00:46:31.840 be nice to be able to say this guys please stop calling the racist bigots that want you dead racist

00:46:36.240 you're hurting the feelings rather they want to shoot people in the channel this isn't about being

00:46:40.000 nice anymore okay keep being as mean as you can to the reform voters and justifying everything those

00:46:47.040 people think like keep going i think it's better you need to be sensible why is it always on the

00:46:53.600 marginalized to reason with people who don't view them as equal or even humans sometimes piss off

00:46:57.920 right we're not going to be sensible we're going to be mental we're going to be absolutely mental

00:47:03.200 and we're going to keep calling you racist until you give us everything that we want

00:47:06.880 this is what farah has to remember the choices between these people who are

00:47:10.640 in the civil service they're exactly like this they're exactly like this in the civil service

00:47:15.440 this is precisely what they believe the choices between them and people like the lotus eaters

00:47:22.480 freelance copywriter interesting uh anyway so then the next one reforming going to win the election

00:47:27.920 is not for another four years rather than admit defeat or break bread with fascists i think we need

00:47:32.480 to focus on forming a popular front and coalition of left and center left parties and getting proportional

00:47:38.720 representation enacted odds on what do you reckon yeah well likely to happen i mean seeing as he is

00:47:47.280 part of the left and he's trying to create a busy splitting with him right now what if jeremy

00:47:53.360 corbyn can't get it done who else on the left could get it done yes right if lansky i guess he's their man

00:48:01.680 the last great hope of the left in britain but uh yeah i love this we need to form another splinter

00:48:07.920 group of the popular front of judea like this this isn't going to happen you guys are mental and i

00:48:14.160 love it i love watching it it's actually insane isn't it yeah you're watching people melt down in

00:48:18.560 real time and this is over gary not saying you're bad people not saying that you need to be exiled from

00:48:25.360 the left or anything like that by saying can we just stop insulting people just be reasonable and

00:48:30.160 engage with them on a on a level that they might agree with you on yeah so we can get some of the

00:48:34.080 the things we want exactly i mean it's milk taste yeah exactly you couldn't be either all or nothing

00:48:41.200 this is the mindset of the heretic it's either all or nothing yes yeah and uh i love this one

00:48:47.920 people who are wealthy will always tell the less well not to rock the boat too much and they'll frame

00:48:52.560 you rocking the boat as unhelpful or not pragmatic and accuse you of making bigots worse they want you

00:48:57.600 to pipe down because the system largely works for them well i mean he is a multi-millionaire isn't he

00:49:02.960 famous trader i've heard so uh i don't know all i'm saying gary is on a class analysis

00:49:08.960 is that even wrong yep uh then you have uh this sensible pragmatism is just acquiescence

00:49:14.800 are people meant to just not talk about and concede to all the manifestly racist policies

00:49:19.120 in the hope that right-wingers are so grateful they support a bit of left-wing economic policies

00:49:22.320 a favor is that it uh yeah yeah that's that's actually what he's asking for just are we really

00:49:27.200 going to give up on total revolution yes are we really going to give up on absolute total revolution

00:49:32.400 and the full destruction of the system for the sake of winning an election to stay in power no no no

00:49:38.240 we do not want to be in power we want to be pure and this is the this is you know yeah exactly it uh

00:49:45.200 okay but reform are likely to storm the next election while loudly calling everyone who opposes

00:49:48.800 them gay woke groomer terrorists i wish that'd be brilliant nigel farage not to do this for a few

00:49:56.800 years after he wins yes i i i promise not to call them all gay woke groomer terrorists if we can help

00:50:05.280 establish some basic sanity in the country but why would that be the winning tactic like they're

00:50:10.800 going to storm the next election by loudly calling everyone a gay woke groomer terrorist then that must

00:50:15.280 resonate with the public right yeah like we're gonna we're gonna defeat the gay woke groomer

00:50:20.000 terrorists and everyone's like yeah i'm voting for those guys and they're like i can't believe

00:50:23.200 i've got to double down on being a gay work

00:50:27.680 well that's that's literally what they say the right is not hand-wringing about not being nice

00:50:31.920 enough to their opponents they see public opinion as something to change not mitigate so okay but i i

00:50:36.240 wish digel fire assault okay i i agree but like you've had decades to persuade people to be gay

00:50:42.000 woke groomer terrorists they said no and it hasn't worked like everyone hates you for it and now you're

00:50:46.720 not allowed to call them racists and terrible yeah so again this man is an idiot and i'm not entirely

00:50:52.960 sure why woke is wokeism people should be scolded and told to be kind when right-wing politics has been

00:50:58.240 allowed to boom and much of that is supported by the desire to slurs and want to be nasty in politics

00:51:03.520 but why is it boomed mate yeah like what like it's they they think that the the no self-reflection

00:51:10.560 is allowed keir starmer said this is not the time for reflection and navel gazing no self-reflection

00:51:17.200 allowed this is not the time for introspection yeah yeah obey your leader yeah so basically what

00:51:22.160 he's saying there is like what why should we be woke of course we should be woke don't scold woke

00:51:26.880 people scold the people who are non-woke uh and in fact we should probably just go back to being

00:51:31.120 inquisitorially woke in fact no call that out every damn time they need telling calling out

00:51:36.560 and challenging repeatedly it's like good point you tell gary what you think mr spencer i don't know if

00:51:42.240 that's mr or mrs actually but like uh tm spencer you you you tell gary i'm keep telling him keep

00:51:48.240 tweeting at him no we need to be inquisitorially woke and that will finally defeat the right

00:51:52.400 wow i love the left so much i love i love i love that we get to be against these people it's like

00:52:00.320 being at a circus and all they have is it's so much fun it's so much fun um gary stevenson looks

00:52:06.800 like someone with perpetual spasms and the medical weed just kicked in i don't know he looks exhausted

00:52:10.880 i'm having to deal with leftists like when you watching that clip you can see him like okay i know

00:52:14.880 i have to do this but like oh it's gonna be rough um did you ever hear the tragedy of darth mohammed

00:52:21.760 el zut the wise i did actually from david wood uh which is remarkable uh not going to cover it here

00:52:29.680 but you should definitely go look that up okay it's like a russian nesting doll it starts as your

00:52:33.920 party then becomes our party then becomes us party then the our party our word party it is yes basically

00:52:39.440 that's where it's going uh no i don't really believe and nigel will achieve anything particularly

00:52:44.240 of note but i think the one thing that's really important at the moment is the digital id thing

00:52:48.080 right nigel immediately came out and said no i'm against this it's like right okay well then it boils

00:52:52.080 down to digital id or not right here star was for it nigel's against it if for no other reason

00:52:58.160 that has to be the thing they and but it'll be it'll be an inflection point at the very least

00:53:03.520 um what can the average americans do saving them by extension britain um talk about it yeah talk

00:53:08.240 about it make sure that the trump administration is aware that we're currently engaged in a civil

00:53:11.520 war like elon coming on stream at the tommy robinson's rally that was massive yes that

00:53:16.960 was massive if the trump administration wants to come and do some of the things with other

00:53:20.560 people in various other places that would be great you know having allies overseas who have opinions

00:53:25.600 on you know this sort of stuff is important the optics that they're engaging in it would be huge

00:53:32.400 uh yeah and lots of comments about your party which i'm afraid for time i'm gonna have to skip

00:53:36.560 over but uh yes uh it honestly i i love i love that they can't get their their act together

00:53:44.560 all right we've got the cool all right well we need anglo revivalism because the conservatives

00:53:52.960 are dead and quite frankly conservatism yes is not enough oh it's a dead philosophy too yeah

00:53:59.840 completely dead look around you well we're conserving we'll go out in the street but like

00:54:03.120 swindon was a conservative stronghold was it yeah like because we don't have a university

00:54:08.800 here you would not know that looking at swindon well it's wiltshire right like yeah generally is

00:54:12.880 you know the southwest is generally quite conservative but now we've got labor mps because

00:54:17.680 tory screwed up so bad demographic change it's not even demographic change it's it's really that labor's

00:54:22.880 uh tory screwed up yeah i was just like you don't screw those guys so this isn't a shameless plug

00:54:29.120 however this is one of the things which sort of jumped off uh and i just wanted to to sort of

00:54:38.880 push this i guess because gavin barwell is a former number 10 chief of staff former big guy in

00:54:46.720 conservatives right like that that's not a small fry uh housing minister former croydon mp and

00:54:54.800 he decided to tweet out define ethnically english okay i can do that yeah yeah most people can funnily

00:55:05.120 enough most people can and i think the indigenous people of england yeah like a thousand years

00:55:11.200 it's actually really easy to define ethnicity thousand years homogeneity today that on this

00:55:16.080 timeline we're probably going to end up him and i in the same jail cell because we agree that i'm not english

00:55:22.000 yes yes there's a very good chance that him is the same jail cell because we're in agreement mate

00:55:29.280 you know it's uh it's a blood thing you have to be born of english people it's it's yeah it's it's

00:55:36.000 it's hard why is it hard every ethnicity ever yeah by the concept and definition of what an ethnicity

00:55:42.400 is right you inherit your ethnicity from your parents it is it is it is something that is important

00:55:47.680 for like doctors right for example if you go to the nhs and you say uh i have this congenital disease

00:55:54.400 they will say are you a pakistani because they will think okay that's consanguinity yeah or if you if

00:56:00.400 you have some sort of blood problem they'll say okay are you african because they're more prone to

00:56:03.360 sickle cell disease like it's i'm not if you need a bone marrow transplant right it has to be from someone

00:56:09.360 who is very closely similar to you by blood it has to be someone who has the same ethnicity and if

00:56:15.440 you need an organ transplant it really really helps to get it from someone who was a co-ethnic it's not

00:56:21.120 it's not it's not a judgment it's just reality but it's something which has been known

00:56:26.480 like for time immemorial until right now until right now all of a sudden i mean the very concept of

00:56:32.480 having an ethnic minority in england implies that there is an ethnic majority else could it happen so

00:56:38.320 yeah how else could it work if you know it literally implies it directly i know so

00:56:44.000 i mean you know i i posted this and i said look you know this is why the time of the conservatives is

00:56:48.640 over as both a political philosophy a party and a stance on the country and how it should be governed

00:56:56.320 into the future we are now currently in what i call and you know what i call it the age of anglo

00:57:05.120 to revivalism right it's we must reclaim who we are that which was stolen from us by successive

00:57:12.640 governments which chose to spit in the face of the electorate about turning on their mandate and just

00:57:19.920 flooding the country with everyone and that is what the conservatives did um just a quick thing here as

00:57:27.280 well this is really links into what fair said the the the primary principle has to be agreed that the

00:57:32.640 nation is for its own people gavin here is saying if i can muddy the waters and undefine the people

00:57:40.320 of the nation yeah then i don't have to fulfill the obligation that the nation is for one group and

00:57:46.000 not other groups this is like saying define what is a woman it's very much it's exactly the same mindset

00:57:51.600 it's sort of let's take something that everybody knows what it is and pretend that it's some insane

00:57:57.760 mystery that nobody can actually understand and that it's all got to do with emotions and feelings

00:58:02.320 and sentiments rather than physical reality yes it it's it's not hard to see what's being done here

00:58:09.280 and it's not hard to see why it's both subversive and insulting yeah yeah massively but it's it's and

00:58:15.360 it can be straightforwardly answered in one line a person who's indigenous to england

00:58:19.280 england this is literally like an adult human female like it's literally in the blood you know

00:58:24.720 whether you like it or not yeah yeah but apparently that makes you a nazi i guess i guess so and so

00:58:31.040 then this this kind of takes us on to this my boy harrison yeah no no shade no oh good i like harrison

00:58:37.840 no major shade at all although i did ask him to have a conversation with me about it and i would still

00:58:42.080 like to have a conversation because i feel like this push uh for the conservatives to still be an entity

00:58:52.640 no matter what their history is no matter where they stemmed from is an exercise in containment

00:58:59.680 whether you like it or not yes because again the time for conservatism is over there is nothing about

00:59:07.840 the country right now which should be like say nothing broadly on a monolith that should be

00:59:12.720 conserved we need to nothing about the political environment yeah yeah it needs to radical change

00:59:17.680 the very sort of philosophical approach to of conservatives it's done it's done and everyone

00:59:24.320 knows it as well most people again saying it on a monolith well the the whole the whole philosophy

00:59:28.880 of conservatism is minimal change outside of a certain barrier right yes well and we're outside of

00:59:35.040 that the change has happened that time has passed you need now an affirmative positive view and

00:59:40.640 honestly moral framework to push forward and create from because conservatism is fundamentally

00:59:47.120 anti-decline yeah we need to be procreation yeah well so we'll watch a little bit of this um but that

00:59:54.160 jumps off to one of the things that he said is a party of caution precaution and tradition you don't

00:59:59.120 stand for that anyway conservatives haven't stood for that yeah for decades you've got an lgbt

01:00:04.480 conservatives wing yeah like what are you doing i've never been able to understand that

01:00:09.920 literally communism yes the conservative party has been full of homosexuals for centuries right it

01:00:15.200 doesn't need an lgbt wing but you have the lgbt wing because that's intersectional communism

01:00:20.320 that has infected your cut your party like i said your party's been gay for centuries it's not been a

01:00:24.720 problem when you were traditional but you adopted communism okay david cameron brought it in and you're

01:00:30.320 all like yeah okay i guess we get the they have the tony blair institute at their last conference

01:00:34.480 yeah that's unacceptable what are you doing that's what are you doing he's an enemy like literally

01:00:39.920 that's like you know the christians be like yeah here's satan's stall do you want to go and talk to

01:00:44.080 him it's like no why would he be there absolutely it's so mad how lost the conservatives are sorry

01:00:51.920 carry on yeah yeah no so i will watch a little bit of this but i would also hasten to add i don't

01:00:57.760 think anyone should even platform the conservatives no i genuinely don't because i feel like if you're

01:01:02.800 platforming people is brilliant actually uh in an exercise to expose them and push back and reveal

01:01:11.440 just their utter madness uh by you know systematically dismantling their arguments uh and and just picking

01:01:17.920 apart everything that they believe in um which actually for michael gove is very very easy to do

01:01:22.480 because he's a lunatic he's a traitor he's an absolute traitor he's genuinely part of the lib

01:01:27.280 dem wing of the party yeah he believes like like keir starmer he believes the things keir starmer

01:01:31.920 believes yeah yeah and not only that you shouldn't be platforming uh what is a dead entity actually

01:01:39.120 because you give it legitimacy by doing that yeah and and they are dead um so let's watch this there'll

01:01:45.200 be loads that you'll want to say about this it's pure comedy gold quite frankly given that the tory

01:01:50.480 party finds itself in such dire straits it is floundering in a way that it hasn't been probably since the

01:01:55.760 immediate aftermath of the whole sort of corn laws difficulty between peel and disraelian benthic in

01:02:01.600 in the 1840s all the rest of it so it finds itself in the wilderness struggling to explain to people

01:02:07.120 not only why it's um not like not only why it's relevant but why it should still exist would it not

01:02:12.160 make more sense to make a sort of bold dramatic radical move and maybe invite someone like rupert lowe

01:02:18.800 to lead the so sorry to pause this already yeah no please jump in i got my like i i i think maybe

01:02:24.880 harrison's just being quite subtle with this because that preamble is basically a leathering

01:02:29.280 like have you noticed how effing useless you are and how everyone hates you and no one's gonna vote

01:02:34.960 for you will need more sensible to not be a useless piece of ass it is but the whole concept of anyone

01:02:43.360 else taking over the conservatives is again an exercise in containment it's a losing game you could

01:02:48.560 strip the conservatives completely and you will never change the opinion never is strong but

01:02:54.480 broadly speaking the mind of the electorate you know cannot change their opinion i'm not sure about

01:03:00.080 that i think your the opinion could be changed it's just that they would have to be tweeting so many

01:03:04.960 racist things that they just couldn't do it themselves it would have to be really really racist you also

01:03:11.680 have to remove michael gage yes you would and this is like i mean obviously harrison's part of the

01:03:16.560 restore britain movement uh and so essentially you can see this is kind of a testing the water sort

01:03:21.840 of like are you going to roll over and capitulate to rupert lowe and because rupert lowe would kick

01:03:26.480 out michael gove yeah i know i know that he would he would kick out about 70 of the mps michael

01:03:31.840 gove included as lib dems so they would just just gone right so this is something that michael surely

01:03:37.840 can't consent to ever but sorry i'll let you carry on yeah yeah so the tory party who doesn't have

01:03:43.520 his fingerprints on anything that's gone gone wrong in the last 10 years no well um uh i like rupert as

01:03:51.920 you know uh i mean you know there are some things we we strongly agree on other areas we disagree

01:03:56.480 uh and i think he's brave and um decent um however political polities tend not to

01:04:09.520 um except when they're in the direst direst direst direst straights uh uh go for outsiders um i think

01:04:19.440 it's very unlikely the other thing is your right to draw the historical context so sorry sorry i was

01:04:25.760 meant to get worse well we'll get the tory's not in like the most historic dire straits in 2019 they

01:04:32.400 had 52 percent yeah yeah like when boris won they were 52 percent and now they're on like 15 to 20

01:04:39.760 depending on the poll like is this not the direst straight oh yeah they're in third place they're

01:04:45.280 not going to even be sometimes so if you're in the opposition you get all of this money from the

01:04:49.920 government to be the opposition to sort of fund your shadow your shadow cabinet they're not even going

01:04:55.120 to be the opposition party yeah i've heard that local branches basically don't exist anymore yeah

01:04:59.760 loads of them are just shut up shop but they weren't mentioned a lot of them went to the

01:05:03.040 conference either the one near where i live has become a bit of a dance class i bet and like

01:05:07.920 no notice how like farage is the opposition and starmer didn't even mention baynock why would you

01:05:14.560 what would be the point like it's crazy how he doesn't understand how late the hour is for

01:05:18.640 the conservative party no he doesn't yes the conservative party is getting through difficult periods

01:05:23.120 um but conservatism small and large c it has been uh part and parcel of uh not just our political

01:05:32.240 and parliamentary traditions but how britain has understood uh uh uh uh outside this country and how

01:05:39.280 britains understand themselves i just want to stop it there because yeah sheer arrogance and the

01:05:44.080 gall of the man to say that whilst attempting to represent all of and this is this is what i said is

01:05:50.400 that conservative he's appealing to the the the sort of philosophical representation of the party

01:05:57.120 and again that's not what anyone's about anymore this is what i mean by the anglo revivalism

01:06:01.840 conservatism is dead what he is trying to push there to say well we represent britains and what they

01:06:06.960 know about themselves across the whole nation across the world no you don't know anything currently oh

01:06:12.240 all i'm getting such a miscalculation all i'm so out of touch if you fail to conserve the people

01:06:16.960 what is there to conserve but also this is who are you conserving it for the people yeah you failed

01:06:22.880 to conserve the people you failed the first principle you failed the first very first principle but the

01:06:27.040 but the thing is well i'm getting strong like hitler in the bunker vibes it's like like no no the

01:06:32.320 soviets have entered berlin like you're about to get stormed by russian troops it's like no we'll

01:06:38.320 just move an extra battalion over here it's like no you won't what are you talking about like you are

01:06:43.280 delusional michael like this is crazy talk yes it's mental it's actually mental get there's more

01:06:48.960 there's more yeah yeah so uh whatever the institution and whoever is leading it there will always be

01:06:55.200 a conservative or a country or a uh polity of caution precaution and tradition um in the united

01:07:03.200 kingdom even if he's not wrong that um the sort of conquests third law or whatever it's everyone's

01:07:11.200 conservative about that thing they know most right he's not wrong there will always be a faction within

01:07:16.320 any institution that will be against change and to protect the integrity of the institution but one

01:07:22.720 why didn't the conservatives do that with britain uh two that doesn't have to have the label conservative

01:07:28.000 party right that label will go away i mean like for example new labor like starmer's labor party are

01:07:34.640 the conservatives of the blairite project right they're trying to save the blairite project and this is

01:07:39.440 everything and they're in full war mode now because they can feel that that is a paradigm this time is

01:07:43.360 coming to an end but this why would anyone need michael gove in the future my question is slightly

01:07:48.240 dumber where's the caution on the boris wave yeah precisely yeah no exactly what was so many examples

01:07:55.200 what was cautious about the boris wave i if if someone could get michael gove to please explain that to

01:08:00.880 me um i'm i'm i'm listening but where was the caution there i mean this is just a snapshot the whole

01:08:07.360 interview itself he says so many more egregious things than this this is nothing this is yeah

01:08:13.040 this is absolutely nothing this was just yeah this is the most that we could sort of pick out for this

01:08:18.160 segment i'm really enjoying it though so we'll watch a little bit more that party has to adopt radical

01:08:23.280 measures in order to uh get us back on the right track so you do commission um uh i think that kemi is

01:08:32.560 absolutely the right person to be leader of the conservative party at the moment but at the moment

01:08:37.760 how long do you think she's gone well i i would hope 20 years but no i think oh my god and we'll

01:08:42.880 stop there oh my god because there's not that much more this this is absolutely mental that is

01:08:48.800 incredible that is actually mental that's pure soviet apparatchik yeah yeah no i love the dear leader

01:08:54.640 and i hope he spends his entire life here yes i realize the famines are getting bad but you know

01:09:01.280 we're going through a rough time and you know we'll pull through like this is wild i i i can't even

01:09:08.480 begin to relate i i i try to relate to people on an emotional level or intellectual level i'm trying

01:09:13.440 to understand where he is this is pure party man right he doesn't believe this i know he doesn't

01:09:17.840 believe this any everyone watching this knows he doesn't really believe this but he for the what

01:09:23.360 he thinks is like being a party man has to say it and so it's oh no i love dear leader and you know

01:09:29.280 i i support all of these things and you know it's just not nearly as bad as you think again hitler in

01:09:33.120 the bunker it's crazy yes yeah so i mean just to to read off some of my talking points um it trying

01:09:41.840 to resurrect the the tories right now it is an exercise uh in in pure containment you know conservatism

01:09:48.400 uh as a whole their time is up it's done the current status quo the current time is for radical

01:09:56.960 politics that that that is that's what's on the air it's radical politics it's radical change

01:10:02.480 uh labor is currently offering conservatism which you said um you know frankly basically conserve the

01:10:06.960 status quo the multi-culti garbage that has been undemocratically foisted uh upon us so conservatism

01:10:15.440 political philosophy it's over it could return don't get me wrong like it absolutely could return

01:10:20.240 but that's when we've gone through what again what i call a kind of anglo uh revivalism you know when

01:10:26.480 we've rekindled what we have had stolen from us but even then i don't want it to return in the way

01:10:30.880 that they think of it because i want them to have an affirmative set of principles yeah we need to we

01:10:36.080 need to create good and moral people yes are interested in having a country that can be governed by a

01:10:40.800 small state in a traditionally english way in a normal way that historically would make sense i

01:10:46.080 want someone from the 18th century to arrive in modern britain and get it and be like yeah okay

01:10:50.480 the technology is all different but behaviorally you're still englishman you still act properly

01:10:54.880 i recognize the culture i recognize the philosophy i recognize the people yeah exactly i understand

01:10:59.680 that i have to read one comment here because it's brilliant is this story baghdad bob yes yeah

01:11:06.000 yeah yes yes yes there's nothing to see here exactly it's exactly what it is

01:11:14.000 it's funny that you mentioned culture because

01:11:17.520 everything that you look out upon now uh is garbage like everything all the architecture is awful

01:11:23.520 and i'm struck by um the reason we have such beautiful things is because culturally uh ethnically

01:11:34.560 england britain was homogenous and and and there's a beauty in that because people that

01:11:43.440 people that uh enlisted things to be built they knew full well that this would not be

01:11:48.000 built within their lifetime there are certain churches cathedrals buildings of such magnificent beauty

01:11:55.280 but the people that put that uh you know the the the building in motion were bequeathing it to their

01:12:02.800 offspring and their offspring's offspring as a gift because the land is a gift right at our land and

01:12:08.960 this is what i mean by the anglo revivalism it's something which we were giving and we were you know we

01:12:14.720 were holding on to for our uh future generations and you lose all of that with conservatives

01:12:20.160 scrutin has it you hold it in trust for future generations like they held it for you you lose

01:12:24.560 the fundamental principle of conservatism that everything everything that you have is a trust

01:12:30.240 that you have to pass on that's the fundamental principle of conservatism yeah but you can't you

01:12:34.640 can't bring the conservatives back when the attempt is to conserve what has now been degraded

01:12:40.400 and subverted you know like i don't like the the the london eye is such a hideous thing yes

01:12:47.200 like the millennium dome what are you doing we don't i don't want to conserve this i don't like

01:12:51.520 2000s britain it was garish aesthetically horrific and the the process of the country being completely

01:12:57.520 subverted off of its traditional foundations and so actually what we need to do is okay what what

01:13:02.480 morally do we want and one of the things you've hit on exactly there is the english venerate age we

01:13:09.040 view things that have survived the passage of time having value even if we can't articulate it

01:13:14.000 properly this thing has clearly proven itself to have value which is why it's still here and

01:13:18.320 therefore the english treat old things with venerate veneration with respect do foreign peoples

01:13:24.720 all do that no they don't a lot of foreign peoples do not give a damn about these things

01:13:28.720 and the problem what we're having is we're not properly transmitting this attitude of veneration to

01:13:35.440 younger generations so an anglo revival begins in how we think of our own country yeah the morals

01:13:42.000 the the possession that we feel about the country itself how we connected to it exactly like our

01:13:47.760 ancestry is our homeland yes and again the the the attempt to remove the ethnic english uh or even the

01:13:55.840 very concept of an ethnic english is an exercise in just pure degradation of everything that's all

01:14:02.880 that will come from this so there'll be a lowering of standards across the board which are already

01:14:07.040 seen of course and but the appropriate response to the conservative party to the boris wave should have been

01:14:11.840 to physically drag boris into the streets right as a conservative you're talking from this position

01:14:17.360 you're like oh yeah that's all what i believe it's like but you sat there and let boris do this

01:14:21.040 you sat there and let him do it it's not just that i just want to go back to an earlier point in terms of

01:14:25.600 the bequeathing what you have been entrusted with to your children is also an incentive to

01:14:32.640 to to surpass your ancestors in what they have built the mindset itself of preservation of of passing

01:14:42.800 on things of accumulation acts as a source of healthy ambition yeah to say we've built something great

01:14:50.960 and i will be marked by building something similar but greater whereas what you see with

01:14:56.640 the architecture that has been inflicted on london today is a competition for size and volume that

01:15:05.200 has no relationship also ugliness yeah it's also ugly but when you go out of paddington if you go to

01:15:11.120 the taxi rank there's a building right there and it is it is a direct attack on the senses it's hideous

01:15:16.960 it's gray with garish angles and bright orange bits on it it's just like you would only do that if

01:15:22.080 you hate the people yes the country's gray enough as it is we built beautiful things to distract from

01:15:26.880 how great how great this sky was so that on a sunny day you would experience a small sense of heaven

01:15:33.040 yes yeah yeah yeah sunny day you would experience a small sense of i can't believe how beautiful this is

01:15:38.800 yeah but i again i get back to that core concept and you know if you take anything from the segment i'd

01:15:44.720 like you guys to push that anglo revivalism it's understanding that we are the stewards of this country

01:15:50.560 because it is ours yes and and that's across the anglosphere as well remember that and your duty

01:15:56.320 as a revivalist or anglo-futurist is to build on a legacy and exceed it and that doesn't happen

01:16:03.280 by dubai-ifying downtown london central london correct correct that's 100 correct

01:16:09.440 it's one of those things that we can't stress enough as well because they'll say

01:16:12.160 okay but we could dubai-ify and it's like we could why would we want to yeah we had something

01:16:16.480 beautiful of our own uh anyway let's let's uh finish that there and go to the video comments

01:16:21.840 if we have some today um just a quick thing from south dakota pastor as well on nigel i'm concerned

01:16:28.800 for the safety of you lot as you are openly dissidents to the leftist global power structures

01:16:32.560 while met like many of you have opined i wish nigel was half the monster they envision him to be

01:16:37.280 for us is absolutely correct that there needs to be a plan to dismantle the cathedral

01:16:41.440 will actively stymie his agenda at every step i pray for your safety your salvation and your efforts

01:16:45.360 take by this country well you know thank you thank you yeah thank you um if nigel is uh sensible

01:16:51.440 what he'll do is use danny kruger as a an access point to um david starkey and get david starkey

01:16:58.080 to just write him a paper to enunciate what needs to be done and then he will just hire half a dozen

01:17:03.840 expert patriot lawyers to write the legislation say that this is what we're gonna do and on day one get

01:17:09.680 someone like lord lord ashcroft on board exactly there's someone like lord ashcroft on board loads of

01:17:14.480 brexiteers day one you can sit there and go right this is the great repeal act we're passing it

01:17:20.160 because we have 390 people in the parliament and the great i mentioned this on the stream as well

01:17:24.720 like nigel is actually in a kind of blessed position here because he'll have brand new

01:17:28.480 people to the parliament so no existing factions within the party who can try and leverage him to

01:17:33.280 get concessions or anything like that they won't have any concessions they won't have any factions it'll

01:17:37.760 just be 390 of nigel's brand new guys who'll say brilliant let's get this done let's get this done let's get

01:17:43.360 this done and in the first month he could legislate like a demon yes just change everything he's not

01:17:48.320 going to unfortunately but the the the small things could be done on day one that would fix everything

01:17:54.240 or like help everything anyway let's go to the video comments some months ago carl went to visit

01:18:00.720 the king alfred classical christian school there in dudley the private school and tell us about its plight

01:18:06.560 unfortunately if you go and visit now you'll find the websites i think we've actually seen this has had

01:18:11.840 we covered this one the other day so unfortunately yes they have payload sorry

01:18:20.960 halo to seaters i'm at iron bridge this is the oldest metal bridge in the world made of pure cast

01:18:28.560 iron built in 1779 open to the public in 1781 it crosses the seven valley there seven river and here

01:18:38.000 is the toll house for iron bridge you can see here on this sign the original prices are still there

01:18:48.240 poor pies get in

01:18:51.520 so can we go back to this uh very quickly before we go to the next one

01:18:55.280 even like so cast iron is not the world's most beautiful material but i love the way that they've

01:18:59.920 you know gone to an effort to make it somewhat prettier

01:19:02.080 decorated yeah we're going to be like some you know somewhat even though it's not an attractive

01:19:07.680 uh material they weren't just like right okay we'll have the most basic utilitarian

01:19:12.320 brutalist block that we can have um this very nice anyway let's go to the next one and now i am hungry

01:19:22.560 let's have a break from the doom and the gloom and the facetious memory and talk about something

01:19:25.840 cool we've all heard of the diversity built britain 50 pence coins but last month while counting up the

01:19:30.000 cash at work i came across this unique 50 pence coin from 2005 which you can see here on the back

01:19:35.120 is a definition from johnson's dictionary 1775 ad which reads quote 50 adjective saxon

01:19:42.160 pence noun plural plural of penny i thought it was a cool part of our history and it was nice to

01:19:47.040 see it commemorated now you know about it too have a beautiful day ladies and gentlemen

01:19:52.080 that's really really cool thank you did not know that i had not seen that that is cool

01:19:55.600 someone sent me one of those bloody rishi senac diversity is our strength coins diversity built

01:20:00.000 britain coins i literally i know i know because i was whining about it on the podcast and like that

01:20:05.600 i i really hate that thing and so i got an envelope a few weeks later and it's it's just that coin i

01:20:10.880 don't even know who sent it so f you uh but now it's sat on my desk and i see whenever i see it

01:20:16.960 no i'm joking thank you for sending it um right let's just carry on uh maria says firas rather

01:20:23.120 nails a plan he is also correct about implementation implementation of such a plan

01:20:27.360 then the lebanese experience is sadly likely unfortunately that seems to be the case um

01:20:32.160 just it really like rupert was saying look we've got 2029 is the inflection point and i think it'll

01:20:38.160 be unrecoverable after that i mean nothing's unrecoverable but just the effort that would

01:20:43.760 be required for recovery would have to involve undemocratic unpeaceful means yes and i really

01:20:51.040 really really really do not want this to happen to britain yeah i don't want to have to go down the

01:20:54.880 alfred route ah well done samson they were the wrong video comments but we'll carry on for now

01:21:02.880 we'll soldier on don't worry about the other ones for now uh sorry if you'd sent one uh you can blame

01:21:07.200 samson on twitter uh there's a the hector says there's a giant nigel shaped hole in the wall leading

01:21:14.080 to power and if nigel doesn't walk through it will change into the shape of someone else yeah true but

01:21:19.760 again we're talking like a decade before that happens right it would be nice to get the action

01:21:24.320 the movement now i don't mind if it has to be nigel i really don't mind like you know i mean

01:21:28.320 personally i quite like nigel for a number of years before i stopped being a liberal you know because he

01:21:32.480 just was talking sense and it's his story okay that's fine let him end it in the appropriate way

01:21:38.640 by fixing the country that'd be great i'd be very happy with that yeah like kevin says i have no

01:21:44.880 faith in farage doing what is needed uh when if not not if he becomes pm yeah i know a lot of people

01:21:50.720 like that and i'm like that i don't have a great deal of faith and i don't see farage's camp making

01:21:55.920 the right noises or taking the right actions to reassure us either but we've got to start pushing

01:22:00.880 like nigel look we're offering you this advice for free like we can see as political commentators who

01:22:06.560 have followed politics for many years now look at what happened at each stage of trump's um campaigning

01:22:12.720 and his presidency and then afterwards you know what's going to happen to you it's actually very

01:22:17.840 predictable this is actually you don't have to be a great political scientist and i think it's

01:22:21.120 important to say to nigel farage that if he only partially succeeds come 2034 if he loses power he's

01:22:28.560 going to end up in jail like this is this is an able to make yeah this is an important point to make

01:22:34.640 if there isn't a republican president in 2032 in 2034 farage if he loses power

01:22:42.560 he will end up in jail or worse yeah they and all of your supporters will get persecuted

01:22:48.720 anyone who is implicated they will treat you like they treat hitler so you better win and

01:22:53.200 you better do a good job basically for your own survival your own survival yeah if nothing else

01:22:58.640 um benny says i attend church with an attorney who works in the department of justice civil rights

01:23:03.200 division he hasn't worked but his office is lost most of the employees because they refuse to serve

01:23:07.920 trump's agenda and that's what you need to do in the civil service you go and say look who voted for

01:23:11.920 brexit here and the one or two people who put their hands up say right you stay everyone else go

01:23:16.080 right literally just get rid of the remainers get rid of them all they're no good to you

01:23:20.080 um dan says i'm slightly confused why ferrass mentions project 2025 in connection with trump

01:23:25.360 to my knowledge he had little to do with that document and knew little about it until last recently

01:23:29.120 was he following explicitly no it's not that what it is is that provides a an intellectual

01:23:33.840 blueprint for the people around him whether they're directly following it or not to push

01:23:38.640 the movement in the right direction so what hexath did on tuesday was very much an implementation of

01:23:44.720 project 2025 trying to fire a bunch of senior generals tell the others to behave or ship out that's

01:23:52.560 that's exactly part of it um martin says coalition of reform advance and restore britain working together

01:23:59.360 the smash lob well this is all contingent on nigel um because i think that if nigel said

01:24:06.240 okay things were stressful nobody knew exactly what was happening but now the hour is too late

01:24:12.560 the challenge is too great unfortunately to be able to have the vanity of small differences like

01:24:23.680 both rupert and ben habib are intelligent and hard-working and valuable people to have on

01:24:29.200 board there's no reason why you wouldn't want them there is room for reconciliation there's always

01:24:33.680 room for reconciliation for the sake of a greater good yes yeah uh ferrass's segment was brought to

01:24:39.920 you by the wessex guild of bakers they use only the finest grains true saxon bread for true saxons

01:24:50.240 roman observer says the greatest delusion of the left is them not trying to create utopia despite reality

01:24:55.200 despite multiple failures it's them thinking that they are good nice tolerant people but it's

01:24:59.360 thinking that tolerance is a virtue yes remember all of the left's opinions boil down to if i am

01:25:05.520 harmless i am virtuous and actually that's not what virtue is virtue is in having the choice to act in

01:25:11.200 one way but choosing to act in another way that's what virtue is the choice between excess and defect

01:25:16.880 not not making no choice at all and the left would have you believe that never being an agent is where

01:25:23.520 morality really lies that's not true it's the opposite lie down and take it yeah but then but

01:25:27.760 you're not moral or immoral you're you're you're an object you know you're not not a subject you're not

01:25:32.960 an agent uh omar says the harm principles are to allow everything to maximize pressure pleasure

01:25:40.000 calling people racist feels good winning elections is hard might lead to harm like confrontational work

01:25:45.040 praise god harm reduction culture has made our enemies retarded uh i mean that's totally true

01:25:51.600 you know but where's the lie it's not even that they're retarded what it is is they are

01:25:58.560 imbued with the crusading spirit such a degree that they can never put down the sword right this is why i

01:26:05.280 always insisted it is a christian heresy that if you want to understand the left correctly it is a christian

01:26:10.000 heresy and it's sort of mapped out with their own eschatology with their own soul which is

01:26:15.360 transgenderism with their own excommunication etc etc and a bunch of holy victims that's that's the sort

01:26:22.000 of animating principle behind it there are holy victims yeah and they can't ever stop crusading

01:26:29.280 like why shouldn't i call everything racist well it's going to ruin everything that you've built over

01:26:32.480 the past 25 years yeah but why shouldn't i call it racist that doesn't matter you know

01:26:36.640 very interesting it's it's it's like a kind of purification ritual for them yes i don't call

01:26:43.040 you racist then i'm stained is what they're saying yes so gary being like guys i think we could win if

01:26:48.800 we just turn it down a bit they're like yeah but then i'll be a sinner yes that's what they're saying

01:26:53.440 you and that's superb love to see it uh keep calling people racist uh jimbo says i like the way that gary's

01:27:00.480 economics doesn't even create the illusion of his ideas being better for everyone all he goes on about is

01:27:04.560 the middle class is suffering the proles don't even enter into it yeah i do hate the middle classes

01:27:08.640 though so that is winning me over uh no opposition to the bourgeoisie yeah yeah well you know the sort

01:27:17.440 of like lanyard classes i know exactly what yeah i do kind of hate those people so you know gary's

01:27:22.720 economics is winning me over a bit here uh south dakota pastor says anglo revivalism since harry is always

01:27:28.720 keen to reality check americans i'm as caution against too much optimism about reform being substantively

01:27:33.200 different from the conservative party here yeah yeah trust us we're with you on that i mean good

01:27:39.360 god like i i i wouldn't even call it optimism just there's no other choice we have to try and ask nigel

01:27:46.880 to do something right wing which i know he's going to be reluctant about but like it's it's a very

01:27:51.840 christian hopeless optimism it kind of is yeah yes there's a fatalism in it i'm afraid uh moreover he

01:27:59.280 keeps importing rats jumping off the sinking sinking ship of the tories to include boris

01:28:04.320 johnson's biggest yes woman uh yeah no i agree i don't know why he took nadine doris she drafted

01:28:09.040 the online safety bill why would you take that what do you need her for she's just literally boris's

01:28:13.920 right hand she's like the mouth of boris like the mouth of sour on out of the rings why do you need

01:28:18.720 her well it's bizarre she's is she even an mp anymore i don't even think she's an mp anymore

01:28:24.720 no i don't think so i don't think so so what good is she zesty king says tories like tony blair

01:28:30.240 because he's because he won which is why they also like mario thatcher john major is the second

01:28:34.640 largest conference room in cchq named after him because of his 1992 general election victory

01:28:39.200 how is their only principle someone i'm close to with uh with very hype in the tory party and for

01:28:45.120 my birthday he gave me an 800 page book on tony blair's administration wow that actually sounds

01:28:50.240 interesting though like you know i need to know i want to learn from the master like you know you've

01:28:55.600 got a you've got to take all that on board right wow california refugee says tories of the cockroach

01:29:02.640 you won't die so that's so so true so so true so be sure you guys don't relent on them and the party

01:29:11.040 for good it's time yeah i agree i i i don't think they should at all um george says i love rupert

01:29:18.240 lowe but he's not a miracle maker nothing can save the tories and no one should they must be

01:29:22.000 destroyed send the message that the consequences there are consequences of a betrayal yes well the

01:29:25.760 thing is i actually do think rupert lowe could turn the toys around right i actually do think

01:29:30.240 that's possible um i'm not sure it's wise or desirable though uh personally i think that the

01:29:37.360 best options we have at the moment are i think is the reformer an idea whose time has come

01:29:43.280 right nigel has worked his whole life for basically this moment so we have to wait until that

01:29:48.080 wave washes over us right we'll see how it goes i'm not that optimistic i would like it if nigel

01:29:54.080 forrest does an amazing job so we can all just retire basically and then you know make podcasts

01:29:59.120 about silly things that are frivolous but i don't think that's going to happen so the next best thing

01:30:04.160 i think would be some sort of rupert lowe ben habib advance for a restore coalition that can actually

01:30:11.760 begin campaigning substantively on right-wing issues yeah and i we've got a plan at least for when

01:30:16.960 it all does blow out but like

01:30:21.680 we shall see lancelot says i don't want to see civil war in england i won't see the

01:30:27.440 police and the police and civil servants excuse me responsible for the current state of affairs

01:30:32.480 dragged out of parliament and flogged in the streets well i mean i think actually a legal process

01:30:36.960 uh should be enacted so that legally they can be dragged i'm very much against mob justice but i'm

01:30:47.840 very much in favor of corporal punishment so it must be sanctioned by the king yes yeah exactly that

01:30:53.760 well you used to be it used to be that you know we would we we we had the king you will receive 50

01:30:58.960 lashes yeah exactly and that's tradition and we should go back to it yep uh dr lighthouse says and i can't for

01:31:05.680 some reason get that off the screen there we go uh make britain powerful again love from uncle sam's

01:31:10.400 heirs uh would would you like one of our fleet obliterators if we over here managed to reawaken the

01:31:15.040 kraken uh well i mean that would be great but to be honest with you i think that's not the problem

01:31:20.080 the problem is our inward-looking selves unfortunately we need to uh

01:31:25.840 we need to get basically the british public to understand that they've been under attack for a very long time

01:31:30.640 yeah it's time for gammonzilla to wake up and just declare enough is enough and we are going to have

01:31:35.200 our country back but on that note we aren't out of time so thank you very much for joining us folks

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - October 02, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1265

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