The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1269

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to podcast of the lotus eaters episode 1269 on this the 8th of october i'm joined

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00:00:34.820 so we're going to be talking about how the liberal narrative has completely collapsed

00:00:38.980 um how the green uh party is a bit of a clown show apparently oh yes okay well let's find out if you

00:00:46.880 can back that up if you've got any evidence for that and um you're going to be talking about the

00:00:51.540 alien invasion which is scheduled for thursday yes there's something unknown hurtling directly

00:00:57.220 towards earth is going to impact us we're all doomed yes well that is bad news indeed but uh we

00:01:03.180 come back to that because um yes we've got to we've got to cheer people up a little bit before we get to

00:01:07.380 our impending doom nation damnation no is it doom nation i want i want doom nation yeah that should

00:01:13.020 be a word if make doom nation great again yes that's what i want um but no total narrative collapse

00:01:19.500 uh which i'm going to tell you and and why do we have total narrative collapse it's because

00:01:24.120 um well for the reasons i'm going to go into but also because we have forgotten our morals

00:01:30.780 and that is why i'm going to tell you about our new course uh before we go any further um

00:01:35.980 stelios our um resident greek philosopher uh has teamed up with um um carl our resident um

00:01:44.360 he's got a master's now hasn't he yeah um and and they are talking about all of the ancient

00:01:49.620 morality that the ancients knew and we have forgotten and um carl did explain it to me

00:01:54.860 but the short version is that um today you're supposed to be good you've got a long list of

00:02:02.860 rules and if you don't break any of the rules and you're a good person all right it's a constrained

00:02:08.440 morality whereas the ancients for them morality was was a product of your deeds and actions

00:02:14.660 it was how you lived that made you good so essentially what this course is going to

00:02:20.000 teach you is how to be good now if if you're a bit thinking well um you know a university level

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00:02:41.540 in a couple of weeks time as well by the way so very good very good watch this space all right so

00:02:45.960 so total narrative collapse um i'm going to refer you to the case of um you know this this uh this

00:02:53.060 chap here this is i mean it is i mean it's very tragic but also it's all almost comedic the level

00:03:03.520 of narrative collapse that this story is given to our our current liberal elite to try and deal with

00:03:09.760 so every drip drip of this case has just completely exterminated everything that they've been they've

00:03:16.540 been pushing at us so if it's an odd looking belt he's wearing there it's very avant-garde yes

00:03:21.140 maybe it's a statue or something i don't know you you see these fashion shows you always think

00:03:26.040 nobody's going to wear that maybe he's the one guy that did it's a new design of bum bag fanny pack

00:03:30.320 whatever is that on a chog the semtex it looks like cotton wool buds but i know well he was a fake

00:03:36.860 anyway wasn't it yeah but um no i mean remember this case started off as a man has attacked a

00:03:43.320 synagogue oh yes a man now the the bbc i mean they know they know how this stuff operates so

00:03:50.780 immediately they started attacking the far right sky news did as well i remember the sky news actually

00:03:56.060 kept on calling it an attack on a mosque because if there's a story yes yeah about a muslim guy and

00:04:01.860 it's bad well it must be an attack on a mosque yeah i remember that um and then and then photos

00:04:07.940 emerged of this chap with a with a big beard um with uh as you say avant-garde taste in belts

00:04:15.660 couldn't possibly be a muslim though based on his image either i remember that yeah he's white right

00:04:20.660 he's white so yeah and and and this emerged and and bear in mind that this happened just a day

00:04:27.620 after the labour party conference where they had spent the previous week hammering home basically

00:04:33.000 one message that it doesn't matter if your name is was it shami what was our home secretary shamu

00:04:39.120 shabana mahmoud shamana it doesn't matter if your name is shamama mahmoud jihad al shami or bob english

00:04:46.820 all three are equally as english as each other so right after that narrative we get we get this guy

00:04:53.900 emerge right and and and then and then it emerges that his name is literally jihad but i i thought that

00:05:02.060 was i thought that meant like in you know internal struggle or i have it on good authority the police

00:05:08.440 that says that that's definitely not a holy war definitely no violence involved when i ran it through

00:05:14.400 the google translate it came out as holy war from syria oh that's different then yes and and then

00:05:20.820 it emerged that holy war from syria had been granted british citizenship so somebody at the home office

00:05:28.560 was was looking through the list of applicants and saw holy war from syria applying to live in

00:05:35.120 manchester right next to a massive jewish area and was like yeah get me my green stamp yeah done yeah this

00:05:43.160 yes what could possibly go wrong here right um then it emerged um that actually one of the two victims

00:05:52.240 was shot by not what was killed not by him but actually shot by police is that true because i heard

00:05:57.880 that at one point and then they stopped people just stopped saying that is that definitely true well

00:06:01.640 the police said so okay yeah like the coroner's examination like revealed that it has uh wounds

00:06:08.940 exhibited like gunshot wounds basically it's like what the coroner has found he's been shot and since

00:06:13.940 he didn't have a gun and no officers did we therefore conclude and mr jihad wasn't armed with a firearm

00:06:19.780 no no no so so that then explodes the narrative that the correct thing to do is is for the state to

00:06:26.820 have a complete monopoly on violence for everybody to complete completely defenseless because you can

00:06:31.620 just rely on the state to dish out violence judiciously now i i you know i'm not saying

00:06:36.320 against the officer who you know very unfortunately made an error and he's going to live with that for

00:06:41.360 the rest of his life and it is tragic i'm sure he didn't do it deliberately no no it seems unlikely

00:06:46.480 um but nevertheless it does expose the narrative that the state having a total monopoly on violence

00:06:52.880 is is perhaps not the most robust uh case that you could possibly make well then it emerged

00:06:58.940 that he was out on bail

00:07:02.320 i didn't know that did you not really there's even there's even worse just than that i don't

00:07:09.300 know if you're going to say the even worse thing you say the even worse than it bit now just in case

00:07:12.700 i have missed it oh so his ex-girlfriend has revealed that oh she reported him to the police

00:07:19.300 because she he she was being shown terror terror materials by him and and he said he wanted to

00:07:29.300 join isis so she reported him to the police and they did nothing yeah i mean interesting choice

00:07:34.460 isn't it i mean i remember when meanwhile he's raping yeah yeah all right oh yeah i remember when i was a

00:07:40.160 younger man i might i might you know sit down with a lady friend and say let's put this video on it

00:07:43.960 that kind of thing whereas he sits down with his girlfriend he's like i've got some i've got some

00:07:49.580 um beheading videos out of syria let's watch these and she was like hang on hang on a minute i'm not

00:07:55.740 up for that darling this is a step too far do you want to watch some peshmerga armored personnel

00:08:02.700 carriers being blown up yes by isis in 2014 can't we just watch you don't can't we just watch a hot

00:08:08.420 leave us vhs or something or you know can't we can't we just do what my normal boyfriends do but

00:08:12.720 no we've got to watch we've got to watch beheading videos so yes um this guy was was known to police

00:08:18.100 well he should have been known to counter-terrorism police that that's the thing right so when i say

00:08:21.980 worse than you've been you know graped yes um that's obviously not worse than being gripped

00:08:26.740 obviously but i guess i guess what i meant is like that's a fundamental failure across the board

00:08:32.220 isn't it that that's one of the worst failings because when she reported him to the police

00:08:36.340 at that point they should have kept an eye on him and which probably would have actually prevented

00:08:41.160 the the future grape which he was out on bail for and then which of them you'd think would have

00:08:46.500 then prevented this but it wasn't so it's just systematic failings should you even really get

00:08:50.720 bail for a serious sex crime like that i don't know but anyway you don't get i don't know the

00:08:56.260 details of the case but it's got a beard so you don't get you don't get bail if you're british if

00:09:00.600 you're bob english and you tweet something you won't get bail for that the problem yeah right

00:09:06.200 one of the problems is though that someone reports a gentleman like mr jihad to the authorities

00:09:15.220 and they're like yeah we know there's like 70 000 of them yeah there's no possible way we can watch

00:09:21.200 him 24 7 so well the stats is one percent of the uk muslim population is is on the terrorism watch list

00:09:29.800 one percent right and that is 300 times the rate of the next closest group but even that is an

00:09:36.680 undercount oh yeah well yeah as in well yes this is exhibit a on the undercount isn't it even if even

00:09:42.860 if a if a lady goes to the police and say look my boyfriend is making me watch beheading videos out

00:09:47.540 of syria i think he's a bit suspect they're like yeah it doesn't doesn't it's got to escalate a bit

00:09:52.620 more doesn't meet the benchmark no he's probably he's probably just into that sort of thing he

00:09:58.160 doesn't meet the benchmark whereas if a british person were to tweet something you know a bit a bit

00:10:03.300 you know showing reluctance to get on board with the liberal narrative yeah no bail for you you're

00:10:09.440 going straight inside thing is another thing to say to point out again is obviously this man's a

00:10:15.380 foreign national i mean if he's into isis syrian beheading videos if you remember the beatles

00:10:22.320 jihadi john muhammad emwazi um he grew up he grew up here he was actually born in the emirates but

00:10:31.460 he came here when he was a very very small child at primary school and grew up here went to school

00:10:35.500 here he still decided to ultimately behead people yes so yes well i haven't got to the end of my list

00:10:44.760 of how bad it is but after that we then found out that somebody um and this hasn't been confirmed

00:10:51.620 as him yet but you know how many holy wars from syria are there in manchester um somebody with his

00:10:58.200 name had been sending death threats to mps oh yeah and again yeah again that did not meet the benchmark

00:11:04.660 of yeah we're going to add him to the one percent of you know the 70 000 people that we're watching

00:11:08.980 that contributed to that mp stepping down didn't it yes yeah yes then we find out that his dad is an

00:11:16.940 nhs surgeon so the whole reason that we need to import millions of people is because the nhs will

00:11:21.820 literally collapse if we don't import as many people as possible right and his dad um yeah let's

00:11:30.720 see we've got a photo here surely sending death threats to a sitting mp sort of immediate top of

00:11:39.100 the list or near top of the list well if you did it yes all right but obviously not if your name is

00:11:44.960 holy war from syria so we have had mps murdered yes don't we yes like that it's not like not so long

00:11:53.900 ago his name was david amos now now now this guy this um nhs well he's done a bit of nhs stuff but

00:12:00.040 he's also done um some other work and he's described as um i think mary um covered this quite well

00:12:07.720 he's described as a trauma surgeon for various ngos and she asked the question is this officialized for

00:12:14.020 islamic battlefield medic i don't know could be it could be that couldn't it the one thing i think is

00:12:21.640 do you ever watch those films where you know somebody in the mafia gets shot or something

00:12:25.920 and they're like take him to the hospital and he's like no we can't go to the hospital i know a guy

00:12:30.260 yeah and go to a guy i wonder if when you know things get lively what what is this guy's role going

00:12:37.500 to be is he going to be the guy that you go and see like when gus frame got poisoned in breaking bad

00:12:42.520 he's got his own doctor on hand yes all right yeah yes so you know and and then like and as as if

00:12:50.740 this narrative collapse was not so complete and total at this point the left were desperate

00:12:55.960 oh can i also just add oh go on then we we pay for his house he's in a council house

00:13:01.880 well the surgeon yeah just just just want to add that just surge add more anger surgeon is an

00:13:07.200 accountant yeah he's an accountant house yeah yeah just just to annoy you to annoy you i'm 99.9

00:13:13.560 certain that is the case i've read it i've had a look okay i did i did everything i could find

00:13:17.540 he was in a council house i just i didn't know that bit yep but i mean that doesn't surprise me

00:13:24.480 i mean this is total narrative collapse is he a first generation immigrant was he born in syria

00:13:29.260 yes both of them were and they came over when the son was younger all right love it anyway so the left

00:13:36.440 the left was then absolutely reeling from this narrative collapse and you've added actually a

00:13:41.120 couple of bits that i didn't even put on the list which just goes to show how complete the

00:13:45.460 the narrative collapse on this one was but then um a couple of mosques got set on fire and the left

00:13:52.700 loved this and all weekend my my twitter uh timeline was just one labour mp after another saying this is

00:14:01.520 disgraceful you know we must stand up against this the far right um they all managed to ignore the 400

00:14:08.600 churches that have been satellite in the last 10 years didn't you know you're not you're not allowed

00:14:12.400 to ask questions about those ones yeah none of those are arson yeah no every single one of those

00:14:17.260 is a spontaneous it has to it has to has to be faulty wire and i'd imagine a couple of them were

00:14:22.060 faulty wiring yeah it's funny how wiring has got so much worse in the last 10 years

00:14:28.080 that's a lot of like 17th 18th century churches don't really have any right yes and they're made

00:14:34.640 from stone so if there was traditionally stone is is not that combustible but anyway so ignore the 400

00:14:41.020 churches that have been satellite focus on these couple of mosques um that have been have been satellite

00:14:46.420 um that fell apart as well as as reported here a 43 year old man arif ali rafiq has been charged in uh

00:15:00.080 in connection to an attempted arsenal at a mosque right not not i'm not getting strong far right

00:15:09.080 vibes from traditionally a british name is it no it's not it's not bob english is it so is it to

00:15:17.200 try and frame the far right or is it like an inter shia sunni thing do you know do you actually know

00:15:23.540 why he did it honestly say he did it i don't care it's just that's a reasonable point yeah it is it

00:15:30.560 is a reasonable question but if i were to get drawn into why these groups hate each other i mean

00:15:37.220 you'd be there all day and was he trying to frame oh god white people okay but but the the mps the

00:15:44.760 left-wing labour mps they were certainly like look at this an attack on a mosque yeah battle stations

00:15:50.460 battle stations this is unacceptable this is not so anyway i mentioned this on twitter and then i'd

00:15:56.560 loads of people come back at me and say no not that one the other one okay right okay fine so we

00:16:03.240 just we just ignore the one that was attacked by arif ali rafiki just ignore that one right

00:16:10.380 let's have a look at the other one then um and as has been reported here by this chap um the other

00:16:17.760 one was doing a charity appeal to raise 260 grand to pay off some debts huh and then after the attack

00:16:27.560 they're now doing a charity appeal for 260 grand to repair the damage on the mosque the the because

00:16:34.620 so what to repair damage to the mosque it was only the fire there was only the the car that burnt down

00:16:40.180 but it was only the mosque uh doors that were burnt what sorry what yeah but they need 260

00:16:46.580 grand oh i see you know don't don't don't don't question that too much right oh i see you know

00:16:52.180 again huh i mean the it's it's been a really bad week for the liberal narrative right now if if if

00:16:59.420 that isn't bad enough um i i i want to talk about i want to talk about um an idea in physics now this

00:17:07.520 might seem a divergence but i've got an animation here let's see if we can we can play the quantum

00:17:12.600 fluctuations refer to the inherent how do we turn off the sound there we go yeah i'll let samson do

00:17:18.440 he knows what he's doing yeah so we've got an animation this is called something a quantum

00:17:22.400 fluctuation and basically the idea is out of absolutely nothing you can create something

00:17:29.880 fresh into and then out of existence yes a part of a particle and an anti-particle

00:17:37.260 you have to create both at the same time um but it doesn't last very long and it's not very stable

00:17:44.060 and then they the the particle and the anti-particle they annihilate each other right because they there

00:17:49.380 is an inherently a contradiction from nothingness which made me think of the liberal world order

00:17:56.520 so i thought what we'd do is is we would go through and and have a look at the 10 principles of the

00:18:02.720 liberal world order both the particle and the anti-particle uh feel free to comment whenever

00:18:08.180 you like so the first one is um the particle is diversity is our strength and the anti-particle

00:18:14.480 is we must wage war on division yeah yeah stop me whenever you want to but the next one is britain

00:18:22.340 needs immigration through its economic growth um the anti-particle being native workers must be taxed

00:18:28.340 ever higher to pay for it yeah or i don't know if you've already got this one but um britain needs

00:18:35.420 more diversity as much as possible as quickly as possible but also it has always been diverse going

00:18:40.980 back to the roman yes good point yeah oh and also what what is it um britain's racist but diversity

00:18:47.540 built britain yeah yeah it's systematically inherently racist yes but was built by them

00:18:53.820 yes okay i mean as you can see like their entire narrative because it comes from nothing because

00:18:59.360 it's not based on reality yeah yeah it has to have these two poles now now with my my little

00:19:05.660 animation here apparently these things they always annihilate each other almost instantly

00:19:11.040 but with enough energy you can stop that from happening and the only example that i'm aware of is

00:19:15.840 is if they form really close to a black hole a black hole is strong enough to just keep one away

00:19:21.140 from the other it takes quite a lot to stop this thing from collapsing an infinite amount of gravity

00:19:27.420 yes right and that's kind of where our liberal narrative is is is that they're having to expend a

00:19:34.160 huge amount of energy on stopping this thing from collapsing so um the the next one is um we are all

00:19:40.660 equally british while the anti-particle is um but but two-tier justives for the natives so it is

00:19:47.900 something like jihad al-shami is exactly equal to bob english but bob english is not exactly equal to

00:19:57.980 jihad al-shami yeah hmm we're all the same yes all cultures are equal but you can't have a flag

00:20:05.340 yes yeah or bail for tweets yes um number four multiculturalism benefits everybody at the same

00:20:16.580 time um national identity must be dismantled yeah no more christmases none of that yeah might offend

00:20:24.280 people it's interesting promote all different um nationalities and cultures apart from our one

00:20:31.860 yes even though it benefits everybody apparently to have these these these multiple cultures um

00:20:37.880 all five is a good one um the rules-based liberal order guarantees peace the anti-particle being that

00:20:44.980 peace requires perpetual war against anybody who's outside the liberal rules-based order yeah war with

00:20:52.000 russia's never end that's that that's a classic 1984 double think thing or classic communist soviet era

00:20:58.320 thing is that uh unless you join the common turn unless you join communism you're at odds with peace

00:21:08.620 and how can we have peace until everybody's been defeated yeah yes um six oh this is this is a good one

00:21:17.740 this will take us back to covid um the experts are neutral and have all of the answers

00:21:22.820 also if you question the experts and they can't answer you you must be censored and attack and

00:21:28.580 deplatformed yeah and only listen to certain certain experts as well yes i'm hoping the approved ones

00:21:35.400 yes i'm so hoping rfk has got dr fauci in his sights somewhere down the line yes i hope you guys

00:21:42.100 wouldn't it trump's uh doj actually go i was hoping to seem the good doctor

00:21:46.800 yeah yeah well one at a time start with comey see where we go as long as long as long as i see a

00:21:54.020 lot of the old biden era people in jail i'll be happy with that be nice um oh i like this one um

00:22:00.480 the nhs is a foundation of britain and we will all die without it also the nhs is chronically

00:22:06.420 underfunded and broken because we're not spending 99 of our gdp on it

00:22:09.920 i've always struggled with that even as a little kid yes i i couldn't get my head around

00:22:17.540 why it was simultaneously the best thing ever and also it was broken yeah yeah yeah

00:22:24.800 um number eight um democracy reflects the will of the people at the same time populism must be defeated

00:22:33.380 yeah i mean what is popular populism is basically just what people want what's popular yeah but that

00:22:41.660 wouldn't be our democracy would it yes as they call it i saw just a delusion anyway yes oh yeah

00:22:47.160 there's such thing i've heard that yeah yeah i've always even when i was young i was just old enough

00:22:51.740 to actually uh start to understand terms properly when you're like i don't know 14 or 15 or something

00:22:57.640 in that age i said wait how is populism either left-wing populism or right-wing populism

00:23:03.300 how is that bad if it's popular for the majority of people again i thought that isn't that what

00:23:09.560 isn't that the at the heart of democracy it's not literally democracy yeah something most people

00:23:14.700 agree with that don't do that that's bad democracy requires defeating whatever is popular like why it

00:23:21.140 is an elitist thing isn't it though it's the anti-democracy it's the um is that i think it's a bit of a

00:23:26.080 a middle-class elitist thing though isn't it it's like oh well even though it's popular the majority

00:23:31.080 of people want it they're they're stupid yeah they're they're working class idiots they're the

00:23:35.600 plebs or something yeah they don't they don't they don't know what's good for them yeah if you

00:23:39.960 left it if you left it up to them they'd bring back the death penalty well why don't we just bring

00:23:44.300 back the death penalty then oh yeah don't take me with your time yeah um nine um britain is post-racial

00:23:50.860 at the same time race must define every possible outcome and we've got to have dei part

00:23:56.080 you know departments everywhere well hang on which is it we're either post-racial or we're not yeah

00:24:03.300 um and the final one um individualism is our guiding principle

00:24:08.820 but at the same because everything about liberal liberalism is its core is all about the cult of the

00:24:14.400 individual individual maximum individual expression no restrictions on the individual

00:24:18.700 also the individual must be restricted monitor digital id and controlled

00:24:23.040 and we've got to group you into groups as well yes so ultimately put you in a tiny cubicle and

00:24:30.260 make you eat bugs yes yeah um all this is uh there's a you must have seen it on twitter going

00:24:36.220 around there's an interesting photo of owen jones and that muffin alley yeah sometimes an image

00:24:43.060 speaks a thousand he's a deputy leader of greens and he's the all that guy he's a guy that

00:24:48.700 talked about yeah when he when he won his council seat he was talking about gaza ala ruakbar and uh

00:24:55.920 so um human owen jones uh having a bit of a so he's a kodak moment both smiling

00:25:03.240 but it's those things so it's like trying to marry up liberalism or socialism leftism whatever you want

00:25:09.380 say marry that up with or globalism even marry that up with sort of what islam or something

00:25:16.440 uh multiculturalism married up to an extreme version of of sort of mono culture mono religion

00:25:24.840 of course that doesn't make any sense it doesn't it won't work of course

00:25:28.680 of course and on the leftist and and the you know the the muslim islamic side of that equation

00:25:35.480 don't really make any bones about it they are who they are it's written well i i accept whereas

00:25:42.500 the liberals have to lie to themselves or the socialists have to lie to themselves to pretend

00:25:47.020 that it's it's all good it's all okay um so yes uh with that i think that the the whole liberal

00:25:56.060 narrative i mean i don't i just see it as it's got to the point where they can't expend any more

00:26:01.600 energy stopping it from annihilating itself i think it's done

00:26:05.480 um which is running on so we got we got to the point of the of the political cycle where

00:26:10.840 they're not even going to bother with narratives now they're just going to use force

00:26:15.100 all they got left we have to do a commenty thing let's have a look

00:26:22.240 luke says uh when leftists advocate for diversity suggest they send their loved ones to ladywood with

00:26:32.780 a hidden camera what's in ladywood i've no idea don't know what that no ladysmith in south africa i

00:26:40.040 don't know ladywood i don't know what that means um james irving says the state of politics

00:26:46.240 have migrated onto the lotus eaters the real great replacement we're being replaced

00:26:51.520 we're taking over you're on our manner now

00:26:54.880 um and doom hand says i fully endorse the idea of doom nation yes i think that was the word i made up

00:27:07.700 i like that uh somebody alex says quantum fluctuations are really good at deporting

00:27:12.500 migrants and building space elevators out of transparent graphene yes probably a bit beyond

00:27:18.540 my peg way that and uh tom's there's a smaller side down but it sounds like the left has never

00:27:22.760 heard of pigeons pigu pigu in understanding the goal is to make the cost of a thing incidental

00:27:31.500 as the thing as possible or reality will okay uh you you may have spoken a bit of french to me

00:27:37.480 there tom and i've got confused i don't know if that's a typo i don't know what pig pigu means

00:27:46.020 i i it it looks french to me yeah sorry is it my time yeah go on then shall we have some fun

00:27:54.640 dunk on the greens shall we because they are a clown show they're a clown show they don't stand for

00:28:03.780 anything they are oh just a stream of endless content to laugh at genuinely i love it i haven't

00:28:12.200 followed them that closely but are these the ones that are both really fanatical about both recycling

00:28:18.080 and also holy war and also endless people right so they believe in the environment but they also

00:28:25.040 want endless people to flood the country is it i mean when you say endless people is it is it more

00:28:29.640 jihadis though oh but they don't care they don't discriminate they probably don't want south african

00:28:33.560 white farmers no probably not but to them who knows they haven't actually outlined too much to be

00:28:39.400 fair just anything and everything so i thought we'd start with this okay i thought we'd start

00:28:44.340 with this because i think this is hilarious how many mps do you think they're going to get

00:28:48.060 what have they got now is it one or two or three i mean it's only about 10 years ago they got their

00:28:55.280 first one ever i think they've got two or three now at one point i saw said they might get seven

00:28:59.820 right okay seven because it's a really weird time in politics i wouldn't be surprised it's so broken

00:29:05.060 yeah i wouldn't be surprised if they don't get if they got 20 i wouldn't be that shocked because

00:29:10.420 politics is just all over the place i was going to go the other way i'd say i wouldn't be surprised

00:29:13.840 if they don't increase at all yeah but it could be anything yeah yeah well could be from the horse's

00:29:19.740 mouth

00:29:20.080 how many mps are the greens going to get after the next general election we're going to get at least 30

00:29:27.180 at least 30 yep wow it's time like the energy in this conference is different it is time it's our

00:29:36.800 moment you know the labour party began what had a few seats in 19 or whatever and then it ends up

00:29:42.480 being a master government to build the welfare state we can go from now to being the green government

00:29:47.340 that's building the future that's actually got the imagination the capability the conviction

00:29:52.840 the competence to like actually so i'll stop you there deep political analysis

00:30:00.360 not just copium certainly not so they don't have conviction which i'm going to show you no they

00:30:06.340 don't have knowledge because they're all absolute morons um and they're not competent remotely anyway

00:30:11.420 so right i thought i thought i mean they will fit in in parliament quite nicely then yeah i guess so

00:30:18.640 yeah the thing is about before you go on nate um just say like they were formed i think was it

00:30:26.000 rather the the 70s or the 80s and they were formed by as i understand it anyway uh genuine sort of

00:30:32.560 environmentalists and very very quickly was subverted and co-opted by socialists

00:30:38.640 by like harder left than fabian type well leftists why not and uh that's it and that's the way it's

00:30:47.040 always been since then uh so now if you're a bit too left for labor you can find a home at the greens

00:30:54.240 and pretend you care about the environment and well i thought they were like half islamic or something

00:30:59.760 well and that well yeah they're the islamo-communist party now they're giving jez bala a run for their

00:31:05.200 money so they're fighting for the same voter base as jez bala okay but they're less liked and they're even

00:31:12.800 more stupid is this the one that's led by a jewish guy yeah yeah we'll get to him don't you worry

00:31:18.240 about it we'll get to hypno boob all right well jewish guy is like let's import as many muslims as

00:31:23.840 we can and give them a position of power oh yeah well and then their ideological fever is going going

00:31:30.160 into massive amounts of recycling when they win yeah oh mate honestly this i just i don't get it

00:31:36.000 uh this is why they're a clown show so um did you not know uh everyone's a fascist

00:31:42.880 it's not just zia yusuf or nigel farage that are essentially ushering in fascism the prime minister

00:31:51.600 has to take responsibility for this too he stood at the podium and quoted enoch powell he said somehow

00:31:56.800 that he didn't know that that's what he was doing i think that's completely incoherent and i think if

00:32:01.520 that's true that's also very problematic that he doesn't know his political history that he didn't

00:32:05.520 know that he was quoting one of the worst fascists this country has ever had do you think he knew

00:32:10.400 what he was saying i think he knew exactly what he was saying it wasn't a one-off we've had dog

00:32:14.560 whistle after dog whistle let's go for indefinite leave to remain taking it from five years to ten

00:32:19.360 years what is that going to achieve if people want nigel farage and they want reform they'll vote for

00:32:24.560 nigel farage and reform so chaps um enoch powell um i mean me and beau uh we spoke about this briefly

00:32:35.360 but um i'm guessing what he means by enoch powell being you know one of the biggest fascists in the

00:32:40.480 world maybe maybe enoch powell uh fought in the war against fascists because he thought that yes

00:32:46.000 um you know hitler was going to steal his thunder is that is that why enoch powell signed up day one

00:32:52.240 there's lots of strange fight in the war

00:32:53.840 i mean on the state of politics mine mine and nate's channel check it out the state of politics

00:33:00.000 i did a whole well we did a whole thing about the life and career of enoch powell

00:33:06.000 and before the war world war ii he was extremely extremely worried about fascism as an existential

00:33:13.440 threat and on almost literally day one of world war ii in 1939 he volunteered he volunteered and then he

00:33:21.920 fought in north africa he wasn't in combat but he was in intelligence uh for years in north africa

00:33:27.040 defeating rommel and the fascists on the battlefield and then went on to fight japanese fascists in in

00:33:33.360 the indian theater and the burmese theater and stuff so it was jealousy so it well it could only be

00:33:39.680 jealousy then if maybe it was all an act i mean i i've had leftists when i pointed out that you know

00:33:44.640 the the nazis were a national socialist party they've said oh no they were just pretending to be

00:33:49.040 socialist it's like it's like right so so hitler not only did he expect to lose he expected to

00:33:56.720 become the modern satan and therefore his whole career was pretending to be a socialist just so that

00:34:04.880 he could vilify socialists 70 years later yeah that that was actually his whole objective well that

00:34:12.480 doesn't make any sense yeah no yeah clown show remember i mean are they are they displaying

00:34:19.680 traits of a clown show i believe so also he didn't quote enoch powell keir starmer did not quote enoch

00:34:24.960 powell he just said strangers yeah that's all he did echoed him a bit he said one word now is it similar

00:34:31.840 is it reminiscent yeah didn't quote him though did he let's not play fast and loose with what quote means

00:34:36.640 nb come on now nb quick note on that is that in the british in the english parlance stranger has just

00:34:45.040 meant um someone you don't know for centuries even in parliament there's like the strangers gallery

00:34:51.360 in in shakespeare isn't that what it means today uh well yeah i suppose so yeah basically well it

00:34:57.040 doesn't necessarily mean you can use the word stranger and not necessarily be a fascist no you can't oh

00:35:03.280 oh sorry polanski has spoken dave actually dave paulden real name dave yeah there is a cafe

00:35:11.440 here in swindon that i go to a fair bit and if i haven't been for a while the the waitress there

00:35:16.720 the old waitress there she says to me oh hello stranger oh i didn't i didn't realize she was a

00:35:21.120 fascist i mean i have to go there more often now oh she's probably in the brown shirts no got a secret

00:35:27.120 shrine to enoch powell i'll tell you the only thing it's fascist in britain sorry to correct myself earlier

00:35:31.760 um sorry the pilot used stranger to mean foreigner ah so in shakespeare often he'll talk about a

00:35:37.360 stranger and he means someone from another land so that's better and i'm pretty sure enoch powell

00:35:43.360 used it was using it in that way yeah i was going to say on this trip the only thing i do agree with

00:35:49.040 him on is he's basically making the argument is if reform are going to dominate the the deportation

00:35:55.040 stuff yeah why don't there's no point flanking right you might as well flank left i mean that is his

00:36:00.080 strategy to flank to the left of labor and hope that the later and tories do what they will do

00:36:04.720 which is campaign from the center and that gives him a clear left wing of votes to go after so aside

00:36:10.800 from yeah aside from your party but yeah yeah you're right and then well when you say that

00:36:17.200 i guess that's kind of the only conviction he has because he he i mean he doesn't actually have any

00:36:22.960 convictions um this is just fascinating like actually fascinating i wouldn't do anything that

00:36:30.480 would make nigel farage prime minister that would be an absolute red line and that includes proportional

00:36:34.160 representation i think in nigel farage we're dealing with a fascist and as much as i will do anything

00:36:38.720 almost anything to make sure we have a natural democracy in this country i would say making a

00:36:43.200 fascist the prime minister would seem counterproductive in terms of a lib labour coalition it's something

00:36:47.760 so you wouldn't support pr if i meant that made nigel farage prime minister no i just think ultimately

00:36:52.880 you have to have a red line and although if you said to me what's the number one thing that i think

00:36:56.960 would change the british political system i would say it's pr now before i get added i realize that

00:37:02.880 that can seem privileged because people are really struggling with their wages they're struggling

00:37:06.000 with the cost of living crisis they're struggling with fascism and racism all of those things

00:37:10.960 actually matter but until we get proportional representation i think it's very difficult to deal with those

00:37:15.280 things meaningfully because we know we could get farage being prime minister on 25 to 30 percent of

00:37:20.400 the vote despite a majority not electing him he could get a huge majority i don't think that's going

00:37:24.160 to happen but that's a reasonable scenario so pr has to absolutely be the number one thing that i

00:37:29.680 think will unlock all the other things that so many of us want i do also think though that there has to

00:37:35.840 be basic standards and seeing nigel farage go into number 10 i think no longer becomes about a

00:37:41.360 democratic or constitutional conversation i think it becomes about a crisis particularly for minority

00:37:46.080 communities uh particularly for people who are already terrified and scared and um i could

00:37:51.360 absolutely rule out that under no circumstances would i accept uh any part in playing in making that

00:37:56.480 joffaraj prime minister

00:37:57.520 he's tying himself in knots it doesn't make any sense what he's saying there's no there's no sense to

00:38:08.480 it it has to be the number one thing that we do but i'm not i won't do it yeah i won't do it because

00:38:15.200 it'll put him in charge it's like he's gonna be the prime minister anyway well as well as being

00:38:19.760 incredibly convoluted and self-contradictory the thing that i couldn't help focus on is i didn't

00:38:25.360 realize that he had like a gap to top and bottom row oh yeah he's proper snaggle-toothed yeah he's

00:38:31.280 got like a little denture burka going on well he's dysgenic af isn't he let's be fair

00:38:40.800 um and that um and i hadn't noticed that before and i it kind of distracted me from what he was

00:38:46.560 saying i mean what he was saying was was not particularly coherent to be honest yeah it didn't

00:38:51.520 make any sense it really bugs me when uh leftists communists just talk about fascism yeah and it's

00:38:59.840 like i i imagine you've not read anything about it really yeah like actual actual early 20th century

00:39:06.800 fascist thought like coming from italy places somewhere like ezra pound or whatever yeah i don't

00:39:14.560 he knows anything about it and it's actually real fascism like 1920s italian fascism it's quite a niche

00:39:22.480 thing really it was a moment in time really yeah you had to be there like hitlerism is something

00:39:28.400 separate really um but no nige is a fascist people are scared they're struggling with fascism people

00:39:37.680 the people are yeah yeah it's alive and well right now what bollocks

00:39:44.800 literally no political conviction at all right yeah the number one thing that i want to do is

00:39:48.960 bring pr in because that would really help everyone that i represent but i won't do it

00:39:53.200 an empty bag an empty shirt a man without a man without a chest doesn't need pr no no exactly that's

00:40:00.720 the point well yeah he's gonna win anyway you're gonna win anyway i'm gonna win anyway so what do

00:40:06.880 they really stand for uh any any any suggestions any thoughts environmentalists no i think i think it's

00:40:15.040 recycling and holy war from what i can tell oh oh huh i wonder what right wonder what zack's rabbi

00:40:28.320 thinks about that i wonder well how is that going to work if if if a uk government described the idf as

00:40:36.080 a terrorist organization the americans would bomb us out of existence within a week

00:40:43.200 i get that this isn't gonna fly i guess they've chosen their um client class haven't they yeah

00:40:48.400 muslims which side their butters uh which side their breads buttered um because they

00:40:52.560 is interested to have a uh a jewish gay communist uh ultra-globalist type as the leader and then

00:41:00.480 an islamist as a deputy leader like that's an interesting dynamic isn't it what does and it seems

00:41:05.520 well seems that al moffin ali is probably yeah the momentum's with him if that's anything to go by

00:41:13.520 what does he think is going to happen to him if if the islamics get in power he's he's dancing on

00:41:21.120 thin eyes isn't he he'll be the last one they throw off a roof yeah i guess don't visit well

00:41:29.600 he's been a good ally to them i think if anything he's the first one thrown off a roof because he's

00:41:34.080 the leader and deputy they can then take over he's standing in the way i think he's quite high up the

00:41:38.800 list of people who get thrown off the roof yeah it's a pipe dream if he thinks he's among the last

00:41:45.200 yeah it'll be one among the first wouldn't it clown show see are we are we starting to see the

00:41:50.880 the inevitable circus that is the green party i i've got one especially just for you now um

00:41:57.280 dan i thought you'd like this so what's this uh green party is going to oh right how would that how

00:42:07.600 would that work well for people who are only listening oh yes the headline is green party backs

00:42:11.840 plan to see end of private letting so no landlords no landlords you can abolish land no kulaks okay but

00:42:17.680 how how would this work so everybody who's renting gets turfed out or does every every landlord has

00:42:24.880 their house seized by the state i mean well that's the classic communist thing it's state property now

00:42:30.960 right yeah so what they really stand for is green with envy right yes and muslims so if you've got

00:42:43.440 any element of wealth kind of that so and communism yeah yeah yeah yeah it is just islamo-fascism no

00:42:49.760 islamo-communism yeah pretty much yeah right until the islamists get full control and they do away with

00:42:58.000 any remnant of socialism or communism just have chariot are there any good historical examples

00:43:05.120 of bows of communists teaming up with islamists in order to bring about a revolution and if so

00:43:12.480 how did it end for the communists five minutes after the revolution was complete i believe there

00:43:16.160 was one was it not in persia oh yeah there was that one there's that one isn't there what happened to

00:43:21.120 the communists five minutes after they won they got effed up beyond all recognition is that modern day quite

00:43:27.600 quickly uh yeah yes that's one yeah yeah put up against wall and shot i seem to remember yeah

00:43:34.000 right yeah sherry is not interested in whether you're uh recycling a liberal socialist uh

00:43:41.760 conservative libertarian it's all the same to them but maybe it's different this time it's always

00:43:48.080 different this time right always uh but look you know i guess uh one thing we could count on the

00:43:58.640 greens for among all of this as well uh they're going to stop the boats

00:44:07.520 by just creating a new dock and allowing them to come in right we're going to stop the small boats by

00:44:14.960 putting on larger boats we're going to put on ferries yeah and planes just safe and legal routes

00:44:20.640 uh so infinity immigrants until the end of time even though what there's wealth inequality and they

00:44:28.800 need to tax the rich i mean i think you've you you've spoken about the um that curve that happens

00:44:34.080 when you don't have a curve yeah so their plan is just to tax people to oblivion um to pay for

00:44:40.960 infinity third worlders which presumably would be Muslims and get less revenue that way so

00:44:46.880 basically all you're doing is destroying rich people not actually creating any more revenue

00:44:51.680 but don't you know that they they're hoarding it like scrooge mcduck yes must be and the real problem

00:44:56.800 the root of all this country's problems in fact the world's problems are rich people yeah particularly

00:45:06.160 like billionaires particularly the uber rich or they're only first on the hit list to be perfectly

00:45:09.840 honest they will go they will go all the way down to tiny landlords well they've already said they're

00:45:16.000 gonna right yeah they've already said straight up landlords look at the face the smiling face of evil

00:45:22.160 i don't know if he's evil or just incredibly stupid i think no evil no really yeah i'm not having it

00:45:27.600 anymore i'm just accidentally want to flood you to oblivion yeah no that is evil yeah i know i don't

00:45:34.560 that is evil just accidentally are in favor of all the policies that would drive this country off a

00:45:41.120 cliff accidentally and i've never really looked at this guy but the more i see that gap tooth the more

00:45:47.600 it puts me off no i know i know i can talk because i've had a tooth knocked out years ago and i i keep

00:45:53.760 thinking oh i'll get one of those bloody implants i can't be bothered but but i mean come on josh is

00:46:00.720 good on this for people if you've got uh if your eyes are too far apart or if you've got a gap in

00:46:07.120 in your in your front teeth particularly on the bottom um it means that your skull didn't fuse properly

00:46:13.120 entirely properly in the middle when you were mine was bashed out it's not it's not because of

00:46:18.160 dysmorph but i mean yeah just yeah spend a bit of money yeah if you're gonna go on yeah well this

00:46:25.600 is also the man that believes he can enlarge boobs with hypnotism yeah what is that all about

00:46:30.080 i've seen that going around on twitter people saying all that what is the actual that is the story

00:46:34.000 that was just he genuinely thought he could increase boobage with hypnosis hypnosis a hypno boob

00:46:42.240 yeah what was he successful do you do we know if this works if we got tangible results on this

00:46:47.920 and and probably not and was it he hypnotized them and then they woke up and their boobs were

00:46:54.160 bigger but also a bit swollen and sore yeah well he's gay though isn't he so

00:46:59.440 he wouldn't be touching them if that's the not that you're insinuating that i i'd hate to

00:47:04.480 implicate you i think i think you need to know is is can he actually hypnotize people and make their

00:47:10.000 boobs bigger because if he can yeah well we kind of need him back on that well you know hypnotism

00:47:15.760 yeah i mean i mean i'll be game for that yes i'm i'm game for this it's all about the power of

00:47:19.760 suggestion bigger cleavage like um yeah the power of suggestion people that are very very strong-minded

00:47:29.440 that that jedi mind trick just doesn't work on them there's a certain number of people that basically

00:47:33.040 can't be hypnotized because yeah because it doesn't work and hypnotism is a type of tricksterism

00:47:40.000 it's a type of uh yeah like kind of in my opinion a bit of a gross thing um what do you think he can

00:47:47.440 do that to the whole world what he just say green policies they're in you they're good they're good

00:47:55.440 for you well i mean his his party is on the rise um they are on the rise i don't think they're going

00:48:01.760 to get at least 30 mps that's unlikely the next election is going to be so screwed up on the left

00:48:07.760 that yeah and anything could happen on the left if your party get traction and stuff that will take

00:48:15.440 a big dent out of greens that's the thing jeremy never underestimate jeremy corbyn's ability to uh

00:48:21.920 generate young people loving him for some unbeknownst reason to be fair that's a good

00:48:26.240 point why would you vote for the jewish-led islamo-communist party when you can go for the

00:48:33.600 actual corbyn-led sympathize islamo-communist party yeah well i can i can just imagine you know

00:48:41.840 oh what's his name you know um sharif al kebab or whatever in birmingham you can vote for i'm making

00:48:48.880 it up but yeah right young young guy second gen second or third generation immigrant um you can

00:48:55.040 vote for the first time where's he going to go is he going to go for the jewish-led islamic party or

00:49:00.080 yeah go for the corbyn-led islamic party polanski is the leader yes or jeremy corbyn so something tells

00:49:06.880 me that the corbyn one is is more likely to get traction corbyn's got more gravitas than dave

00:49:13.200 paulden dave paulden yeah corbyn knows the ropes i mean he's actually been leader of her majesty's

00:49:22.720 loyal opposition hasn't he and he goes polanski hasn't done jack he got more votes in that election

00:49:28.800 than labor got winning this time yeah so yeah yeah yeah so he's not a complete failure at the ballot

00:49:35.840 box you you can say that about corbyn unfortunately but what you can say is that the green party is a

00:49:42.000 clown show yes and a joke yeah shall we uh we can get to some of these uh

00:49:51.760 comments now what's this uh ladywood is in birmingham apparently oh okay

00:49:56.560 uh i didn't know that luke i've not been there uh detect says uh state of politics dragging

00:50:03.200 low to seaters to the right i sense a reform load dynamic in the ranks

00:50:07.440 is that just that i'm imminently going to get fired for being too based

00:50:15.040 i don't know i got i got a telling off just before we came on here for moving too far to the right

00:50:19.040 oh yeah yeah he did yeah producer came from sandwood yeah yeah outrageous outrageous uh

00:50:24.880 what's this uh gimli i think listening to this polanski dude has cost me some iq points

00:50:30.320 sorry about that mate uh and luke j says only if farage was the things they said he is ps no worries

00:50:36.800 for the donations oh thank you um thank you very much for just one from cranky texan as well

00:50:44.800 just says fascist just means enemy uh enemy to them nothing more yeah yeah yes yeah because they

00:50:51.040 don't have the intellectual fortitude to actually articulate a counter-argument so they just go

00:50:56.000 fascist or racist it's like yeah you're an idiot you're an imbecile it's very easy isn't it you just

00:51:01.040 learn that word when you're like 10 or something and that's it that's all you need and the tragic

00:51:06.400 thing is they're always wrong okay like they keep saying islamic you know fascists are going to take

00:51:11.040 over the government it's like really yeah it's just nigel farage right didn't that milk toast farage

00:51:17.280 yeah didn't dave green dave didn't he call um even starmer fascist the other day yeah i think so

00:51:26.720 bringing in fascism yeah outrageous outrageous

00:51:33.440 all right let's talk about our imminent destruction at the hands of a rogue comet which is going to smash

00:51:39.360 into earth and kill us all that does sound bad yeah um why aren't we all talking about it uh

00:51:47.680 because that's not really going to happen oh right okay so it's just sensation that was just that was

00:51:51.520 just to grab people's attention in the first few seconds of the youtube video no um uh so but but

00:51:57.920 having said that look al jazeera goes with uh our internet rumors of comet hurtling towards earth true

00:52:04.400 it's on the other side of the sun it's nowhere nearer i heard it was getting nowhere near mars

00:52:11.120 yeah it'll get close to mars well it has already it's past mars now uh it got within 23 million miles

00:52:16.560 of mars which is actually yes in astrological terms really close in parking terms that would be generous

00:52:23.040 but in astrological terms that is actually really yeah yeah yeah yeah very close uh but no it has passed

00:52:28.320 no it was never ever going to pass anywhere near earth oh well but it well having said that again

00:52:34.000 in the scheme of things passing through the inner solar system hmm yes um but yeah we were on the

00:52:40.640 mars is on the opposite side of the sun to us at the moment and it flashed past mars so it was never

00:52:46.320 it was never it was never hurt it was never hurtling towards earth um but is this one special in some

00:52:51.520 way because i mean we always get bits of stuff sorry say again is this one special in any way yes

00:52:57.040 we get stuff just it's special no it is special so it's called three eye atlas okay now i've been

00:53:04.480 fascinated with if you watch um science channels and space channels it's just been all over that

00:53:10.960 for weeks so ever since the first of july it was first spotted on the first of july this year and it's

00:53:16.640 the third interstellar object we've found i.e from completely outside our solar system okay all comets

00:53:23.600 that come in asteroid not yeah all that we know of like asteroids and comets um they're in our own

00:53:30.000 solar system so moving around the galaxy with our sun and us but they've just got very like halley's

00:53:36.800 comet for example yeah um okay so it's okay bits of rock from the early solar system just whizz around

00:53:42.640 but this one is coming from somewhere right so is it coming from well it's coming from the direction of

00:53:49.360 the middle of our galaxy right yeah does that mean it could pass from external say again right so if

00:53:57.760 it's coming from the middle of the galaxy yeah does that mean that there's a potential that it came from

00:54:02.720 beyond the galaxy and is merely traveling through the galaxy almost certainly not that it's not from

00:54:08.080 another galaxy not interested it's interstellar not intergalactic all right can we can we rule out

00:54:15.680 this being something could it be a probe of some sort because i'll get oh right i'll get to that i just

00:54:23.120 want to set the scene a little bit it's just a bit of context coming from the center of the galaxy

00:54:28.320 that's that's where you would i mean it's the densest region that's where you would expect life to form

00:54:33.440 first and it's coming it's coming there to us you're saying if if there is a sort of uh a galactic

00:54:41.200 empire yes it will probably reside near the center of our galaxy yes right and it's coming directly

00:54:46.960 from there yeah and it happens to be going past the planet that would have first supported life in

00:54:51.840 the solar system i mean i know it's lost now mars yeah yeah yeah that's true yeah yeah so you think

00:54:58.960 millions even billions of years ago well i saw mars thought there was life there sent atlas out to

00:55:05.760 yeah have a look have a look and it's only just getting here now yes and mars is dead now yes

00:55:11.440 interesting idea yeah i mean as long as this thing doesn't change direction or slow down or

00:55:15.600 anything we should be all right well it has seems to have changed course and even speed uh well no

00:55:23.200 huh but we'll get to that let me just give a little bit more context for people who might not

00:55:27.280 know anything we've not heard anything about this um so it's only in the last 10 years or so we've

00:55:31.840 actually had the ability to spot things like this um so back in 2014 oh no sorry 2017 we spotted our very

00:55:43.360 very very first ever into uh uh um um an object that's not from our solar system right um and they

00:55:53.040 called it a muamua which is a hawaiian word because i think it was first spotted by a hawaiian

00:55:57.840 a hawaiian um telescope and uh and that was very odd if anyone remembers that it was very interesting

00:56:04.560 but first thing to say about that is that where we were going around where we go round the galaxy

00:56:10.160 um it seems like it was sort of more or less it was moving but it was more or less um in like

00:56:16.320 the interstellar medium and we just like passed okay through it rather than rather than it like

00:56:23.200 coming for us we passed an arrow ring down through us it was more like we were passing it yeah and

00:56:28.560 eventually a bit more again at a certain point in time it's just a traversing of no probably not

00:56:34.160 all right because it was going so fast that the sun didn't capture it and we go round it takes 200

00:56:40.640 million years or something so it was moving then it was moving right yeah yeah whereas this is like

00:56:46.000 this is different this is on a trajectory straight for us coming from the center going out towards us

00:56:51.440 arrowing towards us which is a different thing right just sort of hanging there and we pass it by

00:56:56.880 that sounds a bit deliberate well maybe maybe and you said this thing is slowing down well

00:57:02.240 not not yet not exactly well we'll get i'll get to that in a moment i'll get to that at the end

00:57:07.440 actually because that's like we're jumping the gun we're jumping um and then the second thing we

00:57:11.520 found was uh the comet borisov and that was in 2019 which does seem to have been uh just a classic

00:57:18.720 classic comet showing all the signs of being a classic comet because a mua mua wasn't it had a strange

00:57:24.720 sort of odd tumble to it and it's how reflective it was seemed odd and at one point it did seem to

00:57:31.120 speed up a little bit um there was odd things about a mua mua but borisov the second one we found

00:57:38.560 um was it seems to have been just a classic comet both these things are relatively small the size of

00:57:43.120 maybe a football pitch i mean a mua mua may have been an odd shape cigar shaped or even frisbee shaped

00:57:48.080 we don't know but uh because it came and went so quickly whereas we saw this early and it was it was um

00:57:56.000 discovered by by atlas um uh which is like an early warning early warning system and we spotted it

00:58:06.240 quite early and um there's just lots of things that are anomalous about it uh there's loads of things

00:58:14.880 that are weird i mean you could make the argument that it's just not a comet they're calling it a comet

00:58:20.080 but the classic things that define a comet it doesn't necessarily is not necessarily displaying

00:58:26.960 those characteristics such as well the the type of tail or lack of one which direction the tail is

00:58:36.240 going well actually let me just start listing then the the anomalies um so first of all the trajectory

00:58:44.240 it's coming in on the plane of the ecliptic i.e nearly all the planets all the inner planets certainly

00:58:49.440 are all on like the same plane with the sun right and it's coming in only five degrees shy of that

00:58:56.720 perfect angle now the odds of that uh some say that's like 500 to one some say it's much more

00:59:03.280 maybe a few thousand to one because it an interstellar object could come in or can coming

00:59:08.880 from any angle any direction yeah but it happens to be through so it comes close to venus really close

00:59:14.800 to mars and as it goes out if it doesn't change direction uh it'll pass really close to jupiter

00:59:20.240 as well so that trajectory it could just be coincidence all these things could just be

00:59:25.600 coincidence but if you were designing a probe that is exactly what you would do yeah just travel near

00:59:31.040 each right everything yes yeah yeah but it could just be coincidence okay the speed it's traveling

00:59:38.400 insanely fast it's the fastest thing in our solar system right now it's traveling at 36 miles per second

00:59:47.920 that's way faster than any other comet or asteroid or even planet in our solar system like way faster

00:59:55.760 that's 58 kilometers per second that's 130 000 miles per hour something like 210 220 000 kilometers per hour

01:00:05.680 to give you some idea the earth spins at like 1000 miles per hour

01:00:12.400 it's moving insanely insanely fast well if you if you were launching a probe from the inner galactic

01:00:19.760 empire you'd want it to get there fast wouldn't you yeah well yeah yeah it's moving sort of abnormally

01:00:26.640 fast so the trajectory is a strange coincidence if you want to think of it that way but the speed of

01:00:32.480 it is sort of abnormal um the size of it right it's massive they're still not even sure right now

01:00:39.280 even exactly how big it is it looks like it's somewhere between four or five miles across and

01:00:46.480 maybe much more maybe 20 miles across different scientists are arguing over that still but it's way big

01:00:54.240 right and scientists say statistically that's crazy you should only see one of those every 10 000 years

01:01:01.360 maybe only one every million years right so the fact that it's the third one we've ever seen after

01:01:07.680 10 years of looking again it could just be coincidence but how many coincidences do you have

01:01:15.280 to pile yeah on top of one or the other um so okay that that's an anomaly isn't it there's not even

01:01:22.400 more is there yeah there's quite a few more yeah uh okay so it's chemical makeup um as comets come

01:01:32.080 closer to a star they start heating up and uh and they start giving off all sorts of uh all sorts of

01:01:39.680 chemicals they're usually like carbon dioxide carbon monoxide maybe like cyanogen gas type of cyanide small

01:01:47.120 very very small amount um uh but so and and they can tell like what it's giving off they're very clever

01:01:57.120 by the colors that it gives off and uh this is giving off sort of weird the chemistry of it is

01:02:03.440 again odd we've never seen any comet that has ever done these things like it was growing glowing red to

01:02:09.360 begin with and then suddenly went green say suddenly but it started glowing green now that's

01:02:14.160 not necessarily odd for a comet but this particular type of green was again we know it's unique as

01:02:20.880 far as we know uh well it is interstellar so um you know who knows exactly where it came from

01:02:29.360 but um it's also it was barreling towards mars set to red which is everybody what sci-fis know that

01:02:35.840 means it's in kill mode okay when it got close enough to realize that there was nothing there

01:02:40.080 anymore then it switched to green it went back to standby to green um and yeah the chemicals they

01:02:47.360 can tell that it's um weapons grade it's giving off well you say that it's giving off a lot of nickel

01:02:54.960 right now again it's not entirely unheard of for comets to be uh exuding nickel that it's it's nickel rich

01:03:02.960 without much iron right and again as scientists tell us uh that's just really odd usually on earth

01:03:12.560 that would that is a sign of like uh a technology of like smelting metals like very very deliberately

01:03:19.360 usually in space in comets in in the natural universe wherever you see nickel you'll also see quite a lot of

01:03:26.720 iron it'll be iron and nickel rich whereas this is just extremely nickel rich which again could be

01:03:33.200 just a weird coincidence but it is an anomaly um okay now the one that for me made my ears prick up

01:03:43.120 when i first heard this probably three weeks ago a month ago or so now um is its tail now usually a

01:03:48.400 comet the definition of a comet which makes it different to an asteroid is that um it has a it has a

01:03:54.240 tail it's icy not necessarily all water ice it could be all different types of ice carbon dioxide

01:03:59.440 ice and stuff so an asteroid is just rock right and the comet will be more than that and as it

01:04:05.200 flies through space and as it gets closer to a star it'll warm and it'll have a tail in fact

01:04:08.800 you'll have two tails one is just blown away from directly behind it and the other one is the sun's

01:04:15.440 the the the sun's effect will shoot off another tail directly away from the star so quite often you can

01:04:23.600 see if you see comets quite often they have sort of two tails but okay both of them are behind

01:04:30.800 where the comet is going right that's how it works well that's how physics works isn't it

01:04:36.400 well this one had a tail pointing towards the sun no that doesn't make any sense doesn't it how

01:04:44.640 yeah i don't know we don't know well you don't ever see like a woman on a on a motorbike

01:04:48.960 with her hair just streaming out in front of her you don't it doesn't work like that no no no yeah

01:04:55.280 this is almost like maybe it's trying to slow down like decelerate yeah it's like exhaust

01:05:01.040 or priming weapon systems uh-huh when that bit you know there's no life on mars remember

01:05:06.720 well that's why it stood down and back to green when i first saw that i was like wait

01:05:11.840 like yeah that's old i'm no scientist my background is in ancient history but wait a minute

01:05:20.240 like what is that so now if i talk a tiny bit about sort of the the debate that's going on in

01:05:26.240 the scientific community so a lot of people i i really like my go-to channels um say still just say

01:05:34.000 people like uh anton petrov hello wonderful person isaac arthur who sounds like elmer fudd

01:05:41.360 and these are serious guys these are serious real life scientists they're the furthest thing from

01:05:45.120 tinfoil hat people they're saying it's a comet it's definitely a comet like calm down stop being

01:05:52.640 stop take your tinfoil hat off um it's just an odd one it's an interstellar thing we don't know that

01:05:58.480 much about them it's just different to our comets yeah that's what it is but then but then you've got

01:06:05.840 also other very serious people um who are saying no wait no wait the fact that it's got a tail in

01:06:14.080 front of it and all the other anomalies um uh there's this is this is a bit odd this is a bit weird

01:06:21.760 uh before i go back to the tail um just quickly say there's a few other speed uh things some are saying

01:06:27.200 that it may have changed course a bit so i'm saying the polarization uh polarization of the

01:06:31.840 light coming off of it it's it's polarized light not just unpolarized light so that's just just on

01:06:37.360 your point about people who have commented on this yeah and they're saying don't worry about it it's

01:06:42.480 fine it's benign don't worry yeah does the central galactic empire have a version of a pack

01:06:48.640 yeah who are they working for the whole thing is a giant psyop yes the whole thing is to make you uh

01:06:56.800 take your eye off the ball from the epstein files um i wouldn't put it past them space is space is

01:07:03.440 fake yeah oh is it oh okay never mind um yeah okay so there's all sorts of people saying there's sort

01:07:11.280 of pulses coming from there may even have been some sort of um signal coming from it um now the space

01:07:17.280 agencies the various ones china europe nasa have been quiet on that but some people are saying so

01:07:23.440 okay my point of saying all that is you do have to be careful um with there's a signal coming well

01:07:29.360 some are saying that what's the signal surrender uh no it's just um come in peace like there's the

01:07:36.480 hydrogen line whereas if you transmit on a certain frequency like 1440 something odd hertz um that's

01:07:45.280 like a very specific that couldn't be done by accident not natural yeah it's not natural but then but

01:07:51.040 then nasa i don't think might be wrong but nasa and isa and china have not confirmed that for sure

01:07:59.520 so they debunked it so well so if i quickly get back to the the debate that's going on

01:08:05.360 or like on the internet amongst various scientists like everything else you've got the serious people

01:08:11.520 and you've got slop right so there is a lot of slop content out there about three eye atlas there is a

01:08:19.040 lot of slop does this count or are we well are we in the other category i'll let the audience decide

01:08:24.720 right i'm trying to be serious i'm trying to be serious in fact let me just say at this point i

01:08:30.480 suspect it is just um a a very very odd comet i don't i i suspect that we'll find out that it is um

01:08:41.280 when it comes out from behind the sun and when it passes by jupiter and the juno uh orbit circuit

01:08:46.400 will be able to see it so i suspect it will be not of alien technology it sounds like they've got

01:08:53.760 to you too maybe how much they're paying you big bucks um uh so okay with the slop and the serious

01:09:05.600 people yeah so um there's there's people like anton petrov just saying no look come on it's just it's

01:09:11.360 just but then they've got someone like avi lobe who is a very famous a very very famous scientist

01:09:18.960 i mean he he has been he's at harvard he's a professor at harvard and was like the the chair of

01:09:26.000 their um astrophysics department at harvard for years he's been there for like 30 years written loads

01:09:33.840 and hundreds and hundreds of academic papers many many books uh chaired all sorts of things he's very

01:09:40.160 very very very eminent and serious right again the opposite from a tinfoil however he's one of

01:09:45.600 the ones that are saying wait this doesn't look anything like a comet why are you calling it a

01:09:50.640 comet yeah this isn't a comet um wait the tail is pointing the wrong way because the people the

01:09:58.480 naysayers are saying oh it's just outgassing that happens to be pointing towards the sun

01:10:04.400 uh it's possible uh yeah we've never seen it before and it's unique but it's possible so

01:10:09.840 uh it's just it's just a comet was someone like avi lobe and others are saying no come on hang on

01:10:15.600 hang on let's just look at the actual data let's just look at the evidence the hard evidence we've got

01:10:21.920 this is weird we've now got like seven eight nine anomalies about this thing i'd never trust people

01:10:28.000 that instantly dismiss right like data points which would that's where i imply you know a sort

01:10:34.400 of a counter opinion to those like it's if you're trying to shy away from all scrutiny there's something

01:10:43.760 suspicious about that whether it's their sort of bias or or not like should always be allowed to

01:10:48.880 scrutinize things i think that's absolutely if you try and push people away from scrutiny and diminish

01:10:54.000 them and sort of demean them when there's clear clear data points which would support scrutiny

01:11:00.480 then that's odd isn't it it's odd behavior it is it is you ridicule people that's the sort of argument

01:11:05.440 that um professor lobe talks about he says look remember galileo when he said look there's moons

01:11:13.040 around jupiter and the prevailing wisdom of the time said no they can't be you're under arrest now

01:11:18.320 it's like no but it's just look through my just look through the lenses i've got here they're right

01:11:23.920 there and they're like no it can't be it can't be we're going to suppress and silence you it's like

01:11:28.160 but it's but it is there no right that's what avi lobe said look let's not do let's not galileo ourselves

01:11:35.040 here um and the thing is we do know quite a lot about comets really in the scheme of things i mean

01:11:42.080 quite a few years back when was it 2014 or something we actually were able to

01:11:47.120 put a very small satellite around a comet 67p and even a very soon the rosetta mission

01:11:54.160 and even put a very small land a philae on the surface of a comet um it actually sort of toppled

01:12:00.560 over and it was a little bit of a failure although we still did get some images um from that um so

01:12:07.360 we do know the point is is that we've lived with comets for hundreds of years like even in the bay

01:12:12.480 tapestry the halley comet is there and the the the chinese were interested in comets for centuries

01:12:18.560 and centuries and centuries millennia even um and comets are interesting fascinating things

01:12:24.320 um and and this this three-eye atlas just doesn't seem to fit well for me anyway and what do i know

01:12:32.960 but for other people as well like professor lobe doesn't seem to fit the definition of it can i give

01:12:39.920 you my theory please do and i'm pretty sure this is absolutely robust and scientifically sound because

01:12:47.440 i've thought about it deeply over these past few minutes okay but have you ever heard of the dark

01:12:52.720 forest theory is this like the fermi paradox one of the possible fermi fermi paradox it's tied up with

01:13:00.640 that but basically look let's say this thing does come from the galactic core right okay 25 000 light

01:13:06.800 years away let's say there was a galactic empire there right and they detect life emerging out on the

01:13:15.280 fringe so you send a signal when it's something like so are you guys chill or are you nutters or

01:13:24.240 whatever it is yeah so they detect radio signals coming in so it takes 25 000 years for the for the

01:13:29.920 light signal to get to them they immediately send a message back and saying look what's going on with

01:13:33.840 you guys and then another 25 000 years later we can get a message back to them and we can say no it's

01:13:39.520 all right we're completely chill don't worry about it we're not we're not going to be launching a

01:13:43.040 xenos exterminatus campaign or anything you can relax right yeah that that's a lag time of 75 000

01:13:50.240 years just getting the messages back and forwards and what if they're not chill this this new life

01:13:57.840 that you've detected what if they are a bunch of exterminatus nutters yeah so the dark forest theory

01:14:03.680 says that the moment that an advanced civilization detects life emerging anywhere the only sane thing to

01:14:12.160 do is to do is to immediately exterminate it because if you if you try and have a conversation with

01:14:18.800 them let's say you detect a radio signal there's a lag time in this case between us and them of 75 000

01:14:25.120 years that's enough time to go from basic radio signals to exterminatus warships right so the only

01:14:33.120 thing you can do is every time you exterminate it now this this thing is traveling really fast but i

01:14:39.760 worked out if it's come from the galactic core it would have taken 100 million years to get here

01:14:46.160 so what i think happened is they detected some life possibly on mars in the early days or on the early

01:14:51.760 stages of earth and they're like yeah okay we're going to send a we're going to send a kill probe it's

01:14:55.760 going to take 100 million years to get there we're passed by mars we scan what's going on there

01:15:02.240 i'll bet you any money in a week's time this thing goes past the sun and starts to do a turn it

01:15:07.520 use a gravity assist assist and it comes back on us hang a left at mars head straight for terror yes i

01:15:14.800 think i think that is what's going on well pretty i'm pretty convinced that's what's happening here

01:15:19.280 well it's possible i mean let's just talk about that right now it's behind the sun at the moment because

01:15:23.040 we as soon as we realized what this thing was i.e an extremely rare thing extremely rare um we then

01:15:30.000 got hubble and james webb and loads and loads of loads and loads of different space assets and and

01:15:36.720 ground-based assets to look at it in all the spectrums like the whole the whole scientific

01:15:42.800 world just was like suddenly looking at this thing as you would of course it's fascinating and um

01:15:48.160 uh so we although it is quite difficult to see exactly exactly how big it is because it's got

01:15:56.240 this sort of it's got this coma it's got this thing around it so to see what the nuclear field uh well

01:16:01.920 no but uh maybe i mean some kind of cloak let's call it a force field that sounds cool um but how big

01:16:10.320 the nucleus is we still don't even know and then when it passed by mars they did like the mars reconnaissance

01:16:17.360 orbiter and even the little road that not little the the car-sized rover on mars perseverance all the

01:16:24.480 things on mars that we could even one of the emirates has got uh uh uh cameras on mars and they all

01:16:32.560 looked at it as it flashed by and um uh but the thing is at the moment it's behind the sun as far

01:16:40.800 as we're concerned and as far as obviously hubble and even james webb are concerned it's behind the

01:16:45.280 sun so we actually can't see it at the moment it come it's perihelion where the point where classes

01:16:50.880 passes closest to the sun is on like the 28th or 29th of this month but it's not till december it will

01:16:56.720 sort of come out from the other side of the sun as far as we're concerned and we can see it again

01:17:01.360 now we expect it to fly off straight out to jupiter but what if as professor loeb has suggested is a

01:17:08.480 crazy outside possibility but we can't necessarily discount it what if as it pops out we realize oh

01:17:13.360 it's changed course massively and slowed down massively and it's heading right towards us it's

01:17:16.640 taken the gravity assist it's bent around it's coming back it's changed color again it's back to red

01:17:21.920 i uh i must reiterate at this moment i suspect that won't happen i i would put a tenner on that that

01:17:30.880 won't be i i i will put but i will i will take that bet i bet you a tenner that it is

01:17:37.760 an exterminate exterminatus probe from the galactic empire yeah wow actually hang on that's a bad bet

01:17:46.160 because yeah it's pretty unlikely really if we if we get no no it's no it's just a simple game

01:17:52.000 theory no take no no no no i know i'm right but the problem is is if i win i won't be able to collect

01:17:59.120 the tenner because we just be annihilated you're just vapor drifting out across yeah you know you

01:18:05.040 have a few weeks or months to enjoy the tenner before it actually arrives here oh that's all right

01:18:09.840 given inflation in the uk i mean yeah that'd be pretty quickly spent anyway so that's uh just just

01:18:16.320 interesting uh real footage from the surface of a comet um i'm always fascinated amazed by something

01:18:24.240 like that some of the footage we got from titan for example um galileo going to going to other worlds

01:18:34.560 um absolutely fascinating so uh we won't won't play the audio on this uh but we can just have

01:18:41.040 this on in in the background and that's that's lobe that's professor avi lobe there um when he's

01:18:47.680 being with you next to a bookshelf so he must be a serious very serious yeah no he is he's really

01:18:52.560 really eminent a picture of himself in the background so that these are these are actual

01:18:56.720 from the european space agency that is it as it passed close to mars because the cameras they had

01:19:04.320 on like the mro and and perseverance they're not meant for looking at something 23 million miles away

01:19:10.000 they're meant for looking at the ground almost right next to the camera really so they're not

01:19:14.080 designed they're not like hubble or james webb where they're designed to look at things a long

01:19:18.800 long way away and in fact james webb isn't designed for looking at something that close that small moving

01:19:25.040 that fast that's not what james webb was designed for although it can still do it um again look there's

01:19:31.520 sort of the real image if you believe that uh space isn't fake it's not a lot to go on and gay um no

01:19:42.640 uh yeah no not really so um have we got actual images of this because well that is an actual

01:19:48.560 image no but like a detailed one that is no no because no that's the best we've got because we do

01:19:52.560 have the ability to do that don't we no what that's the best we've got we don't have the ability to get a

01:19:57.520 better image than that no what what do we not no i thought we could take pictures of stuff from

01:20:05.280 space and also i've seen pictures from space that look pretty detailed well better than that so again

01:20:11.520 why do we not have well i'm so confused i just said so for example the best space telescope we've

01:20:17.280 got is the james webb space telescope near-sighted or yeah it wasn't designed to look at something

01:20:24.000 moving that fast that close of an oversight it's meant for looking deep in like long exposure deep

01:20:29.840 deep field images looking back over billions of years uh stretched out right uh infrared

01:20:38.400 things it's not meant for something like that that's something we should probably get on i i would

01:20:43.360 imagine yes it sounds like we need one of those hopefully the best probably maybe the best image

01:20:48.800 we'll get of it is if it if it doesn't change course when it passes jupiter again we've got

01:20:54.560 an orbiter there juno and that will it's actually quite old actually it's like well that's gonna

01:21:00.800 have a camera on it then isn't it apparently apparently it's gonna pass quite close though

01:21:05.680 and that hopefully that will get the best yeah but that's gonna that's gonna have like a nokia 2610

01:21:10.320 level camera on it also yeah right also one thing which some of the uh the slightly more tinfoil hat wearers

01:21:18.160 would say is that out of nasa the chinese and the european space agency it's only the european

01:21:24.240 space agency that has released anything because that flyby happened on either the third or fourth

01:21:28.960 of this month and it's days later and and the europeans said we've got this so probably nasa and

01:21:36.320 the chinese but certainly nasa will have better images they just haven't released yet some of the

01:21:43.200 conspiracy types are like oh that's weird although nasa as a federal body is actually they're all on

01:21:49.760 furlough and it's like closed down because the whole us government is on on uh shut down at the moment

01:21:55.600 isn't it um uh did you see the pizza tracker thing what oh yeah yeah you love the pizza tracker stuff

01:22:06.080 yeah so there's this there's a count and what they do is they track the the pizza parlor next to the

01:22:10.320 pentagon and whenever they get a spike in pizza orders late at night okay normally means something

01:22:16.160 bad is about to happen anyway it went off a couple of weeks ago oh and we didn't go to war so what what

01:22:22.640 were they doing in the pentagon i reckon it was this i think so yes wasn't that when pete hegseth

01:22:27.520 had that massive meeting with all the generals well this is what i talk about with like the slop

01:22:32.880 end of the spectrum on some channels they were saying exactly that when pete hegseth got all the

01:22:37.280 top brass together they were like it's because of they need to put a plan together to to defeat he was

01:22:42.240 like stop being leaning atlas yeah and he was just saying get in shape being fat isn't a good look

01:22:47.520 for a general pizza i'm here to follow you for being fat also here's a massive number of pizzas

01:22:54.240 some people say that the whole government uh us government shutdown is to to suppress information

01:23:02.480 about this hmm but i mean come on that's for me that's obviously just nonsense but i mean who knows

01:23:09.440 who knows maybe it isn't maybe but i would i would have thought so um yeah people saying people have got

01:23:16.160 all sorts of crazy ideas and thoughts and feelings about it if you ever heard of the wow signal back

01:23:21.520 from the 70s oh yeah where seti got a a particular particularly strong signal coming from the same

01:23:27.200 direction the three-eye atlas is coming from is actually the same yeah yeah okay yeah that's

01:23:32.480 interesting um and some people saying oh maybe they were pinging us and like maybe they were scanning

01:23:38.400 for us and they were like oh got ya right the thing is three-eye atlas has probably been flying

01:23:44.320 through the interstellar medium for billions of years though so okay there's loads more to say

01:23:51.440 loads more of interesting things and to point out but my time has basically come to it that's what they

01:23:55.440 think a muamua look like um uh there's loads more things say but we've run out of time i would say

01:24:02.240 it's almost certainly well i wouldn't call it a comet but it's almost certainly a natural object

01:24:08.240 that's just odd to us but it could be at some point in december it hits the news

01:24:15.520 that it's appeared from behind the sun and it's slowed down and changed course and it's turned red

01:24:20.960 and i would attend it and dan wins a tender at that point yeah

01:24:27.920 all right you've got some common things

01:24:34.160 no video comments okay what did uh ryan rumbles 1993 says could it possibly hit brixton please

01:24:42.160 cranky text now no read that one uh what else have we got here is the top the or the bottom that's

01:24:50.080 the bottom one uh okay okay oh that's confusing uh so filthy centrist for for five uh pounds sterling

01:24:58.960 says uh think of the gold mark dan if we mine asteroids for precious minerals brokonomics video suggestion

01:25:05.360 how much money can we earn yeah i mean i'll be more worried about the

01:25:15.520 pending destruction but yeah yeah um

01:25:19.920 ochi gador for five dollars says uh space refugees coming to use the nhs

01:25:27.200 river raver for five pounds says uh it's been bugging me for too long

01:25:31.520 is matey on the right the sorry steve i was bored flowers prank guy from lockdown

01:25:38.400 i am not that person no sorry steve i don't even know what that's a reference to

01:25:42.480 no am i am i not the one on the right no looking at it i should be on the one

01:25:46.720 no it's it's flipped on the oh okay thing all right i think that's it right i think that was all

01:25:54.000 i'm i'm mistake reviews follow me on twitter all right now if i go and the state of politics and

01:26:03.200 the state of politics you'll love it it's based again the state of politics state politics

01:26:08.480 so we we can go to the commenting comments

01:26:12.080 and um and and sophie lives says just watch dan's brokonomics on digital id brilliant episode

01:26:17.280 um yes that's why i like you sophie you're very honest remember to watch um and i'm in the process of

01:26:23.520 writing a very long response as to how the id was slowly introduced in denmark and what the

01:26:28.000 experience has been thus like as a dane yes so i may i did a brokonomics on digital id which is out

01:26:34.000 today and i made it premium so that everybody can watch it and we can we can get the message out

01:26:38.160 because yeah i tweeted that out it actually didn't it that should have had so many more views like

01:26:43.520 genuinely it's a very good piece so yes well we only came out this afternoon so

01:26:49.760 i did a i did a daily as well but there's not many people on that channel there was a longer one

01:26:52.960 that was out yesterday oh okay oh possibly well anyway yes that's out oh no it would have been

01:26:59.040 yesterday yes yeah yeah so that must get more views yeah because um yeah watch it it's really

01:27:03.600 good genuinely yes i don't read stuff randomly it was good um kevin foxes um oh this is total

01:27:10.080 narrative collapse sorry but the father should have been on the watch list simply for naming his son jihad

01:27:15.600 uh yeah i mean again i mean if if any englishman had a son called him like crusader of the infidels or

01:27:26.560 something well what annoyed me the most about that is the raf crusaders had to change their bloody name

01:27:32.080 right i bet we let in some turd blossom called jihad and it's like what yes and the home office just

01:27:40.080 stamped it um jimbo g says um good seeing a police car outside a synagogue oh um yeah good

01:27:48.560 seeing a police car outside a synagogue on the commute to work really happy it's come to this

01:27:52.720 why wouldn't we want more of this it's our strength after all yes may have been it takes a hint of

01:27:58.720 sarcasm yeah it might have been sarcasm though never um and uh luke west says all english are

01:28:05.520 equal but some english were more equal than others yes i believe that is how it works um do you want

01:28:10.240 to do some from your can you see the yeah yeah i can see yeah so um we've got fuzzy toaster

01:28:15.920 says the green party is the watermelon party green on the outside but it's mostly red on the inside

01:28:20.960 i like that that's funny um ed miller band harnessing enoch spinning grave fantastic name

01:28:26.720 it says boob hypnotism works when i stare long enough they get bigger as the woman walks over to

01:28:32.480 slap me yes based um so it's uh sophie uh says none of these people know what fascism is nor do they

01:28:45.040 care remember they don't call you a fascist because they believe it's true they call you a fascist so it

01:28:50.400 is now allowed to hurt you yeah that is that is the point isn't it stochastic terrorism basically

01:28:56.720 um yeah well are you gonna you want to do something else uh okay let's have a look justin b says

01:29:03.600 uh if this is interstellar are we going to have some aliens knocking on the atmosphere asking for

01:29:08.960 their ball back omar awad says uh in fact i had a uh a uh monthly gold tier zoom call i think we

01:29:20.000 pronounce his name incorrectly every time so if we are doing that apologies that i seem to remember well the

01:29:26.400 first the first name or the second name uh the second name i think oh i just say award because

01:29:30.640 it looks vaguely close to it and okay anyway yeah but it's probably not right i won't believe it's

01:29:37.120 aliens uh until it hits buenos aires remember buenos aires jokes aside uh the scale of distance and

01:29:43.520 speed involved would mean any uh deliberate alien endeavor would have to have been started long before

01:29:49.200 humanity existed yeah what if it slowed down though or originally it was heading for mars

01:29:55.440 because there was life on mars three billion years ago but what if it was moving faster before we got

01:30:00.000 it detected yeah i mean yeah yeah yeah oh we it's only a theory that we think it's been moving through

01:30:08.080 the interstellar medium for billions of years uh that's what it seems to suggest i think i i don't know

01:30:16.000 if we know that for 100 sure it only showed up on our radar so to speak on the first of july so

01:30:25.680 i'll leave it to the scientists but that's what they say um but it's an interesting point they would

01:30:30.240 have it's not like they for it's not possible that the aliens sort of heard our first radio emissions

01:30:37.840 from the 19 from the 1930s or the 1940s heard that and was like and then went dark forest was like we

01:30:47.360 need to annihilate them and then they sent three i atlas though that time scout those time scales don't

01:30:52.720 make sense don't work yeah so it's not it's not that uh what what was the first most powerful radio

01:31:00.800 signal that we sent out then what was the first thing that we the uh the munich olympics where hitler was

01:31:05.440 giving out gold medals an alien saw that and was like straight away right we're going there we want

01:31:13.040 to meet this guy he's the leader of earth yeah have you not seen the film contact with jodie foster

01:31:18.880 written by karl sagan it would be funny if they built a whole religion around him and they turn up

01:31:23.120 yeah all excited they'd only seen the first three years of hitler where people liked him and he was on

01:31:28.480 the front of like people magazine or time magazine yeah they're like we've come to see the great adolf yeah

01:31:34.480 and how would that go down we're going to share with you all this advanced technology immortality

01:31:39.200 and space travel and all the rest of it um we we just want to share our love radolf hitler with you

01:31:44.960 well that's going to put that's going to put them in a real bind isn't it yeah and we've got to go

01:31:48.880 um we're not much a fan of you actually anymore all right so that's the time up i think isn't it

01:31:56.960 oh yes it is yes um well very good um yes but a lovely podcast everybody and thank you for turning

01:32:06.560 up do turn up again and goodbye

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - October 08, 2025

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