The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1275
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1 hour and 31 minutes
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179.35689
Summary
The Lotus Eaters are back, and this time, we're talking about taxes, and how much we have to pay, and why we should all be angry at the amount of tax we pay. We also talk about the rise of the welfare state, and the role that race has played in it.
Transcript
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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Thursday, the 16th of October, 2025.
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And today we are going to be cathartically exploring my absolute rage against the government and the system and the amount of tax we have to pay.
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I woke up this morning and I was just angry, just really angry.
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Literally the first thing on my Twitter timeline, taxation.
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For those doubting who may think this is some kind of show that Carl puts on, it's really not.
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He just furiously began slamming his desk earlier where all of us in the office could hear and see it and go,
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ah, ah, and we thought we'd been demonetized or something, but no, he was just examining how much tax we all have to pay.
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And I was reading about it and it was just infuriating, genuinely infuriating.
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And then we're going to be talking about other less important things, frankly.
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How the system's trying to harm you, which I'm sure you've worked out, but I think it's important to be aware of.
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And how for our opponents on the other side of the system, this is just all about race.
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They're completely explicit about the racial organizing and how that's going to affect things.
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But before we begin, of course, go to courses.loses.com.
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Sign up to the Ancient Greek Virtue Ethics webinar that we have tonight at 6 p.m.
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And Stelios will be talking about Ancient Greek Ethics.
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And we do have a secret that we're going to reveal to you that you don't want to miss.
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So I think the issue is that people don't really understand how bad this country is, the shape of the country at the moment.
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And I hate to tell you all of this, but Mussolini has won.
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Mussolini, in the doctrine of fascism, said, look, the 19th century was the century of the individual, of liberalism, of people being free from government coercion.
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And so we can say that the 20th century will be the century of the state.
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This is literally how he characterized the 20th century.
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Even through the Napoleonic Wars, taxation, they had personal taxes of about, what, 4%?
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Can you imagine your taxes being 4% of your earnings?
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No, you can't, never in your life was anywhere near like this.
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Even, and obviously, it's only World War II where it starts going, but even then, look at this.
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The World War II, Henry Morgan found the FDR administration to fund World War II was the ones who put in a proper federal income tax, which remained permanent.
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And fun fact about that, I only learned in the past few months, was that Milton Friedman was one of the advisors working with Henry Morgenthau who devised that tax.
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So maybe everything that he did afterwards was an attempt to apologize for it.
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Yeah, I'm really sorry I shouldn't have done this.
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Speaking for Friedman, he gave advice to many people.
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And he was saying that advice given is not always advice taken.
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So, yeah, but there is one thing that has to do with the rising of the welfare state at that point, doesn't it?
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When we're talking about welfare state, we're not just talking about, you know, you're disabled.
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It's more like, let's fund all these crazy programs because we invent fake categories according to which people are...
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But what I want people to take away from this is it wasn't always this way, right?
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Actually, things used to be better in the past in almost every way.
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It's hard to think of a subject that wasn't better in the past.
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That's probably the only thing I can actually think of.
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But when it comes to, like, normal social things...
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Yeah, but the purpose of medical technology is to keep me alive and living with this.
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Well, yeah, good luck if you need to get the NHS appointment that will save your life.
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But if you look at this, just look at the amount of taxes they just basically didn't have to pay in the past.
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I dream of the tax code of the Napoleonic Wars.
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I wake up in the morning and just be like, God, I can't believe we have this.
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Of every penny that's made in England, you can see how much of it is taxed.
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Are you going to mention the tax trap past 100k?
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And you wonder why we basically are in a poor country now.
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Because, I mean, was it Milton Friedman that basically said every penny taxed by the government is a penny burned?
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But it's something essentially, like, there is no good that comes from state spending qua state spending, right?
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So, the state should spend where it has to, and where it doesn't have to, don't.
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Because any amount of state spending is bad, basically.
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It's essentially summarizing Milton Friedman's philosophy.
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There's relatively consistent, actually, since the 1700s.
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If you do look at the business taxes, again, they're very low, actually.
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And then other public sector receipts, not really that much.
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No, the overwhelming majority is just the government saying,
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I mean, look at that huge yellow wedge that is just the government taxing you for having a temerity to exist within its remit.
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And they were like, yes, actually, we can do that.
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And I'm just, honestly, I could just stare at this graph more and more and just get angrier and angrier at this.
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Because what this is essentially saying is about half the year, you work for the government for free.
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For about half the year, you work for the government for free because you are a fucking slave.
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Honestly, I'm going to try and calm down because this just really, really pisses me off.
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So the next thing that really pisses me off is the fact that literally there are more people on benefits than there are net taxpayers in this country.
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Now, that shouldn't be terribly surprising when you look at that.
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Why would you bother working if this is what you end up up with?
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This, unironically, is what the Office of National Statistics tell us.
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The median equalized household income in the UK before taxes and benefits was $38,900.
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But that increases to $41,900 after taxes and benefits.
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No, you're getting benefits because you are dependent.
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The richest fifth of people's mean-equivalized household income before taxes and benefits was $116,000, which is 12.2 times larger than the poorest fifth at $9,600.
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However, this gap is reduced to only three times larger, $85,000.
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So if you're getting $116,000, you're working really hard.
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Both you and your wife are on about $60,000 a year.
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That goes down to $85,000 between the two of you because of taxes.
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And, of course, the person at the bottom goes from $9,600 to $25,000.
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More than double what they're actually making through their work.
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That's $5,000 a month before tax from two professional working people who are married.
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Now, you've got so many goddamn expenditures that you have to pay for that this doesn't go all that far.
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You can probably have a holiday a year and have a car each so you can get to work.
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That's, oh my god, that's aspirational, striving people.
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Of course, even after tax, earning that kind of amount in the household, you should be able to afford far more than what you're suggesting there.
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But inflation being the invisible tax that we all have to pay constantly means that, yeah, even that much doesn't go very far in this country.
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Look at the amount of money you spend on petrol.
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We've got the highest energy bills in the developed world.
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Our petrol prices, whenever Americans see our petrol prices, they're like, no way.
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And then you look at our food prices, the grocery prices.
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It's just unbelievable how bad everything is being run in this country.
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But the thing is, you go down here, the proportion of people living in households receiving more benefits than they pay in taxes is 53.3%.
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That shouldn't be surprising for me to say it's not news, but it's really unsustainable.
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And the important thing, though, is that this is just the first year of the Labour government.
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No, it's just the second, the beginning of the second.
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We still have basically four more years of this.
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Look, that's been stable over the last three years.
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My point is that they seem incapable of course correcting.
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You listen to LBC presenters and hosts saying, well, let's go to 100% income tax.
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I thought you said income tax, but I wouldn't put that past them.
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But it amounts to the same goddamn thing anyway.
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So if the household median income, after benefits, if you're earning $38,900, actually increases,
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does that mean to be a net tax contributor, the household income has to be probably like
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Yeah, because those people are all claiming benefits of some kind that actually bumps their
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Almost, you know, more than half of the people in the country are dependent on the state in
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Or claiming some kind of benefits to keep them going.
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I mean, this is literally the South Africanization of our country, where somewhere like 72% of
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But I suppose it depends what you're actually looking for, right?
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If you want a country that has rolling blackouts and...
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It digs up tarmac on the roads to be able to sell on the black market.
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I was going to say insufficient infrastructure, but I don't think that quite covers the point
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There are plenty of videos and photos of it happening, and you can guess.
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But anyway, what I love about this is like you get the Financial Times commentators, like
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Chris is the economics commentator, honorary professor, blah, blah, blah.
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There's no need for a moral panic about the UK's welfare system.
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He has perfect Financial Times physiognomy as well.
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It's like this is completely normal, says this Financial Times writer.
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Anyway, so then we've got the Office for Budget Responsibility, and I just want to talk about
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And the idea that we have an Office for Budget Responsibility that will print stuff like this
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and not act like this isn't a national crisis is kind of wild to me, right?
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But the receipts are only 1.14 trillion a year.
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I mean, they're not going to declare this an emergency, because for them it's a reason
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I mean, this is just insane that we have this gargantuan, consumptive state just chewing
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I mean, I'm not overstating it at all, am I, right?
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24 to 25, spend 1.2 billion equivalent to, sorry, about 1.2 trillion equivalent to around
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So, of course, the direct taxes are 39.7% of national income, 40,000 a household.
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44.4% of national income is spent by the government.
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So, for every pound earned in this country, 45p of that is spent by the government.
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And, obviously, it's like, oh, but the welfare state.
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I would rather people come to me and ask for charity, and I would rather give them charity
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It would still be a lot cheaper for you as well.
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And I'd probably give away more as well at the end.
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But there is also the other aspect of it, which is a bit more philosophical.
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It used to be the case that charity was basically something that was the responsibility of civil
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So, what happens with the rapid expansion of the welfare state is people saying that we
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are outsourcing our duties to each other as members of civil society to the state.
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That's why we have people who are less engaged, because they're constantly saying, well, I'm
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And they are doing their part within that framework.
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And the purpose of the system is to not get the job done in order for the next politician
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And in order for me to do the job, I have to raise your taxes.
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And so, they give us a breakdown of how this is spent, which is worth going through, and
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So, this is taxes on you, the corporations, things like that.
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Other taxes, such as VAT, is the most important.
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So, by far, the overwhelming majority of this is just them saying, oh, you exist.
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Then you've got corporation tax, council tax, business rates, field duty, various other.
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And basically, everything you have ever used money on is also taxed to the hill.
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So, everything you buy is 20% more expensive than it should be.
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So, of course, we spend all of this on public services, state pensions, and debt interest.
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Debt interest is actually a relatively small percentage of this, to be honest.
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We always talk about it, but it's like, okay, but that's actually not that much.
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So, anyway, basically, there's always going to be a deficit because we just can't afford this.
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Reform the other day said, you know what, guys?
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I hate to sound like Ayn Rand about this, but maybe that should go down to, say, I don't know, 35%?
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Can the government only spend 35% of everything made in this country?
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And the Green Party are freaking out about this.
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Reform UK wants to take public spending down to 35% of GDP.
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That's a £275 billion cut, the equivalent of shutting down the NHS.
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Or, you know, there are plenty of other services that are completely unfit for purpose that we could cut.
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We streamlined it down, made sure it was actually for nationals, and cut the administrative burden on it.
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Like, there's a graph, I didn't get for this one, but you can see on the graph, the number of doctors is relatively, you know, a fairly low incline going up.
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But the administrators are going like that, and it's just like, why do they need so much goddamn administration?
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I was going to say, do you not remember Callum a few years ago looking through all the DEI records and finding how many people were being paid over £100,000 to ensure that a particular NHS area was diverse enough?
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Yeah, but this, what I find about this is just, oh my God, I can't believe they want us to keep more of our own money.
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We want the Lord of the Manor to take all of our money.
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It's like, my God, man, what is wrong with these people?
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And then, like this, here's a Green Party member on, what was it, Ian Dale's show.
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When has putting up taxes ever generated growth?
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Well, actually, you know, 45% of the economy is what the government invests in, what the government spends.
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We've got to get away from this idea that it's only spending money in the private sector that generates growth.
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The Green Party wants the government to invest much more in social housing.
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And you're going to make it worse by abolishing private landlords?
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If you look at the policy there, there's loads of really, really sensible stuff.
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It takes your money, and then it spends it as it wants.
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And so there's always, even in any amount of government spending, whatever the administrative cost is,
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that's just something that is a waste of money.
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It could have been done privately without that.
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I'm just fed up with how much of leftist rhetoric is just ignoring human nature.
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It's like, you are going to work more if we incentivize those who don't work.
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And we're going to tax you in order to benefit those who don't work.
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Also, what she means is that the borders are going to, she intends to keep the borders open
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if she gets elected, and in order to justify the perpetual need for more social housing.
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But what she's saying there is, yeah, so basically, if we spend over the tax revenue, that somehow
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But all it does is create $137 billion extra debt every year, which we wouldn't otherwise
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I'm just a layman looking at this going, right, okay, that's obvious BS.
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I mean, it's literally, a bunch of it is literally debt.
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And so this is the kind of thing that they're going to do.
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Why don't we hand over the public finances to her?
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Does she look like she knows what she's doing, right?
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Because she's the executive board member for a housing association called SOHA, right?
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And what her plan is, is for the government to give a council or housing association
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£80,000 a house to buy and do up property to give them to asylum seekers.
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They want £1.75 billion to renovate 14,000 to 16,000 homes to house asylum seekers.
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And they're like, yeah, well, guess what this will do?
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Which is why we need to banish all HR departments.
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And so anyway, you had Lewis Goodall the other day suggesting, well, to pay for all of this,
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we're going to have to have 100% inheritance tax, obviously, because without an inheritance
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It's like, the government didn't earn that money either, Lewis.
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At least I have a better claim because they're my parents and not yours.
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But it's insane how this is like millennial left-wing thought in Britain.
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Why don't we just have 100% inheritance tax in order to reduce income tax and make sure
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No, no, no, no, you go ahead, because I will rant and rape for that.
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I want to add to what I was saying before, that these people are incapable of course correcting.
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I remember when this took place and I searched that in Scandinavia, they had inheritance tax
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and they either lowered it or completely scrapped it because it created way more problems than
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He says, you don't have a right to inherit money from mommy and daddy that you did nothing
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First of all, what did the money, the government did to earn it?
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And second, there is zero consideration about respecting the will of the deceased, whether
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We're going to get back to that in a second, right?
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But then we have this by Ollie Dougmore of the Politics Joe and the New Statesman, who
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was having a debate with Chris Philp from the Conservative Party about this.
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Let's say over £10 million, 100% of that is returned to the state.
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No, you're a communist because you believe the state owns everything in this country,
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But watch Chris Philp's response because he's just like, okay, I can't believe the lunacy
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Well, that really would have a flight of millions.
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Anyone with more than £10 million would just leave the country.
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Your idea, your genius idea is to say that anyone who's worked hard, been successful,
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set up a business and got more than £10 million, you're going to say, go away.
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No, I'm not saying they should leave the country.
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I'm saying if you have the opportunity to leave £10 million to each of your children,
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And if, as a good Tory like yourself, Chris, which I believe you are, believe in a meritocratic
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And if you say to someone who's got more than £10 million, we're going to basically swipe
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all of it when you pass away, those people will simply leave the country.
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And you might not like that, but that's what they'll do.
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I mean, they're doing it already, even at delays tax levels.
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Mate, people are leaving already as a result of high taxes.
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So not only would your genius policy raise literally no money, in fact, it would raise
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negative money because the most successful people would just leave the country.
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I love that Oli was just sat there like smug and superior.
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Like, oh, look at how seething I've got him by wetting and shitting myself live on air right
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What a fool to think that I didn't do it on purpose.
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Like, because they don't actually think anyone would be stupid enough to do such a thing.
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So the question is, why are we, like, having these people on these shows?
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Sorry, Stiles, but for time we've got to carry on, right?
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This is genuinely insane because Oli's just like, let them go.
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It's like, no, Oli, you need them to pay for your monstrous welfare state, right?
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60% of tax income in this country comes from the top 10% of earners and 30% of that comes
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So what you're saying is, we can just skim off 30% of the tax that's taken into this
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There's already a massive £1.37 billion deficit every goddamn year.
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And you're like, yeah, but why don't we just reduce the income by 30%?
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Because to get into this top 10%, you need 60,000 to 70,000.
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That's not a lot of money to earn to get into the top 10% in this country, because we are
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In America, as you can see, it's more than double.
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In pounds, it's probably about 160K or something like that to get into the top 10%.
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You need to get way more than we make in this country, because we are not a rich country.
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And all you're saying is, why can't we just drive off the rich?
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It's because you are asking them to pay way more than we can afford.
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Literally more than twice what it takes to get into the top 10% in this country.
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And that means that only 4% of working adults in this country earn over 100K.
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And a lot of people are trying to avoid what is called the 60% tax trap, which is a certain
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100,000 pounds you mentioned in the office earlier.
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So you get an effective 60% income tax rate on that portion of your earnings, and obviously
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Wait, so that's specifically between 100 grand and 125,000 pounds?
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So it's literally, for most of your time working, when you're earning that money, that goes
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And so you get people who are desperately trying to avoid making 100 grand.
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Imagine fighting to keep your income lower than it otherwise could be, and that's the
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Well, and for anybody who is confused about this, typically the way that wages should be
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allocated is the more productive you are, both in terms of whatever corporation or firm
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you're working at, and also societally, you should be remunerated with money that's, you
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know, that's equivalent to your productivity, because you're earning it, right?
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So the more people are earning a lot of money, the more productive you are, the more the economy
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grows in real terms and not just imaginary GDP terms, right?
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So people are fighting to be less productive because the government has incentivized them
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And the best argument that the left-wing retards that we have on our screens can come up with
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Zimbabwe just saying, well, just let the white farmers go.
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And this is just, Chris Phillips is completely right, you are completely wrong, and this
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And this is major party platforms at this point.
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There are a lot of comments, and for the sake of time, we'll have to skip some of them.
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That's a random name, is very concerned for my mental well-being.
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Harry, show me on this door where the government taxed you.
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Oh, you've got fingers, we'll tax them toes, tax them too.
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Your existence, all of your food, all of your, any kind of health products you have, all
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of your clothes, the way that you got to the, the way that you got to work was taxed multiple
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You've got road taxes, you've got fuel taxes, you've got the tax on buying the car itself.
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Anyway, the shadow ban says, glad we have such optimistic topics today.
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Sorry, I literally woke up this morning, went on Twitter, and the first thing I saw was,
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I can't remember exactly what it was, it was something about the amount that we're being
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You know, my, you know, mine and Stelios' segments are probably not going to be too
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sunshiny, but I don't think I'll get as viscerally angry at them as I did at yours.
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One tall order says, death to the welfare state, death to the government spending, and curse
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Aliyah says, taking care of your parents in old age is what earns you an inheritance tax,
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And that's precisely why Lewis Goodall's like, well, why can't we just have an inheritance
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I'm not taking care of my parents in their old age.
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Even outside of that, just like familial love is something that inspires your parents
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to, like, give you money and leave you something anyway.
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But the government, because they're inhuman communists, don't want love in families.
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That's literally to do anything they can to break up the family.
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Ka'al, if you're ever planning stands for election, you need to stop saying obviously
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Well, to be honest with you, I'm not, but I don't care.
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You guys can't even imagine my campaign slogan.
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And the things, I'm not even against the NHS in principle.
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It's just the way that it's being orchestrated is just terrible.
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A brother, my diehard Tory, finally flew the white flag yesterday.
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If either of us liked hugs, I would have now to be disappointed by Nigel.
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I'm very critical of Nigel in my own way and reform,
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not least for screwing over two of my friends in the office.
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Please don't play this clip back at me four years from now
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there's no reason to think they could make it any worse.
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we'll talk about how the system is meant and designed to hurt you and does hurt you.
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And there's been a lot of hard work put into it by Stelios
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and all of our wonderful, lovely, handsome editors.
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And with that, let's go on to the more depressing subjects.
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So, yeah, overall, we've harped on about this again and again and again.
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the results that come out of it as an input-output thing.
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The output shows you what it's all meant to be for in the first place.
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We know that the system that we live under right now is meant to hurt you.
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It's supposed to humiliate you, demean you, tear families apart,
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tear traditional societal and community structures apart from one another
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And this is going to be one of those segments reinforcing that
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because, goddamn, every single time you look at the news,
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there is just a new reminder of that coming out.
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And this is one of the big stories that people have been talking about in Britain right now,
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but we will also be traveling across the pond to America later in the segment.
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So this is the story of a Sudanese immigrant, an asylum seeker,
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and stabbed her to death with a screwdriver on a deserted train platform as she screamed.
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Now, I've seen some people say, work for a migrant hotel, you're putting yourself in danger.
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Thing is, oftentimes these hotels, some employees are already working for them
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And the government was like, okay, we've got huge amounts of taxpayer money,
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and a bunch of unscrupulous migrant hotel owners were like,
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where the hotels don't always make it clear that they're already housing these people.
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So people will start working for them and it will just be,
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maybe an entire floor, maybe a wing of the hotel,
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is entirely blocked off because we've reserved that for migrants who go about the place.
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Either way, just because she was working for this hotel
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I know, and it's an awful, awful thing to happen to a woman
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who was just trying to work behind a bar to earn some money,
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which, as Karl has laid out in the last segment,
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would have been mostly taxed away from her anyway, sadly.
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No, they don't seem to have any pictures of him in the article itself,
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but Remix showed the security camera footage and highlighted his face,
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but, you know, it's not like we can do that much about him.
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So this is Rhiannon Sky White, the woman that he murdered.
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that he is sat in the hotel lobby while she's working the bar.
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as she was leaving home after she clocked off from work.
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And then he stabbed her 23 times with a screwdriver
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as she waited to catch a train on the 20th of October last year.
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and now we're getting the news reports of a lot of the details of it.
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There is a trial against him that's ongoing right now.
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So this is the information that's come out at the moment.
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So she had actually been on the phone to a friend,
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and the friend heard two screams as the attack started,
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of importing and letting these people stay here.
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because they don't just get turned around at the channel.
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gets the trauma of knowing that she heard her dying screams.
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And then the train driver gets the joy of finding a corpse
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You get to pay for the privilege of this barbarian being here.
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Yeah, and for this, you get taxed out of the arse
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to the point where you can't live a comfortable life
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which the prosecution said was Miss White's phone.
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He went to a local shop and bought himself a drink
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were forced into some kind of life-threatening situation