In this episode, the Lotus Eaters are joined by Ed and Nate to discuss Europe's anti-Islamic policies, the need for reparations, and how the left and Democrats in America have become dangerous and ill-equipped to deal with Islamic extremists.
00:00:00.240Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters. This is episode 1277. I am joined by Nate and Ed Dutton and today we are going to be talking about Europe's anti-Islam actions, how nothing will satisfy the reparations demanders, and how the left and the Democrats in America have really become quite dangerous and extremely unwell.
00:00:27.500As a reminder, I'm doing a RealPolitik show right after this at three. It's going to be live, so please join me and ask any questions that you want. And I want to leave you in the capable hands of Mr. H, who is going to be talking to us about, well, his new channel, but more importantly, about what the Europeans are doing about extremist Islam.
00:00:55.960That was a great intro. No, go check out the State of Politics. There's a channel which I run with Bo, so if you like Bo's takes, do go and check it out.
00:01:05.180But we do need to talk about our lovely, glorious European friends. So, our European friends, our European friends.
00:01:15.100Friends and allies, yeah. So, basically, if you haven't noticed, Europe has begun, near coincidental timing, two European places anyway, have begun clamping down on Islam.
00:01:36.120First and foremost, this popped up into, if you're just listening, Italy began talking about banning Islamic face coverings and exploring mosque funding.
00:01:52.440And not only that, also dropping in to see what mosques were doing. So, spot-checking mosques.
00:02:02.000So, I wonder if they'll find any weapons in there. Or is this just a British thing now?
00:02:34.760The Italian stallion has popped up and basically launched this with her party, saying, yeah, like, this is the legislation we want to introduce.
00:02:44.940But the plan is, and it's the ruling Brothers of Italy party has said, that they want to ban the burqa and niqab and body coverings in all public spaces nationwide.
00:02:56.180And it is basically called the bill against Islamic separatism.
00:05:06.100And I think, actually, the main thing, which I quite like, well, one, they're planning to fine these individuals 300 to 3000 euros, which, I mean, that's basically just taking back their tax money.
00:05:18.920Because, of course, half these people don't work.
00:05:55.280One of their editors, I think, was very open in one interview that ended up getting captured by memory, where he says that the West is Dar al-Kufr, the abode of the unbelievers.
00:06:06.620Meaning that it is, therefore, the abode of war, suggesting that his integration plans are not really what you would hope that they would be.
00:06:22.920And the expectation from Five Pillars is that eventually they're going to be running the West and eventually Islam will successfully conquer the West.
00:07:06.900And they come up with these ridiculous justifications like, oh, there might be chlorine on the swimming trunks and someone might be allergic to chlorine and the steam and whatever.
00:07:59.640And so a statement from a member of parliament of the FDI party said this law addresses two needs.
00:08:05.800The safety of citizens who must be able to know who they're dealing with and the need to avoid undermining women's dignity because erasing a woman's face means undermining her dignity.
00:08:14.840Which is, I think, saying that a woman deserves a quarter of a man is slightly more offensive.
00:08:20.460I mean, in Islam, a man is allowed to have four wives, meaning that she gets a quarter of a husband.
00:08:27.540He's also allowed an unlimited number of property women, I would say.
00:09:12.740That's where the whole system of polygamy comes from.
00:09:14.720Women are sexually attracted to high status for obvious reasons, because if the chap's got high status, he's got the good genes that attain the status.
00:09:22.920And he's got resources that can be invested in the kids and in her and so on.
00:09:25.980And so it's much better in that sense.
00:09:29.920Well, I've met some of the products of polygamy, and I can tell you that the level of social damage that it causes outweighs the genetic aspect.
00:09:41.000I'd also say we shouldn't have to deal with this in the West anyway.
00:10:21.880Or you give them, exactly, you give them jihad, and you say to them that once you die, then you get, like, you will be in heaven with a permanent erection and 77 virgins.
00:11:35.320banning the full veil, which isn't banning the veil itself, could be part of a security rationale, but legislation to this effect already exists.
00:11:41.580So, I wonder what the actual utility of this proposal is.
00:11:43.900It's to make you feel unwelcome because you are unwelcome.
00:13:43.920If the premise of the religion is that a man cannot see a woman's face without arousal and without any kind of control over himself to the extent that he might do the needful, shall we say, instantly.
00:14:36.720Other aspects of the law seek to deal with matters surrounding Muslim marriages, such as strict penalties for arranged marriages, inducing marriages through religious coercion as well.
00:26:15.140Citadel Stone 17 says, I'm in the US and remember 9-11.
00:26:19.040The war against Islamophobia began almost immediately and came entirely from the media.
00:26:24.240Don't look too deeply into who ran all of these media companies.
00:26:27.100Well, I, the first time I heard that Islam was a religion of peace was when George W. Bush said it.
00:26:34.100I grew up in a Muslim country being told that actually it has precisely the right level of violence.
00:26:40.600Citadel Stone says, maybe the real reason behind making their women wear face coverings is because they don't want to be reminded that they married their cousin.
00:26:50.640And I'm going to stop there, but you should get on the website and check out what this guy's saying.
00:26:59.180He's saying, he's saying, don't look into it.
00:27:01.760We're not discussing what he's saying.
00:27:03.760One Tall Order says, I just like to say thank you, Lotus Eaters, for what you do.
00:31:58.400So if you look across the world, it's only European culture that is guilt-based, whereas the rest of the world's culture is honor-based.
00:32:06.260And I would argue that that implies that it's pride-based, in a sense.
00:32:09.740So Europeans and Christians in general concern themselves with the wrongs that they have done, rather than the speck in your eye.
00:32:19.220As a Christian, I'm meant to concern myself with the beam in my eye, not the speck in yours.
00:32:23.580Whereas the sort of more, I would argue, natural perspective is to be concerned with loss of face and loss of status, because that immediately affects your genetic...
00:32:35.640Guilt is that there is a little thing inside, a little idea of yourself that you have that you haven't lived up to, and you feel bad about yourself.
00:32:41.460And that's what we are very subject to.
00:32:43.620And all I can say in response to this is that the British were the first people to...
00:33:02.880Did something, which everybody else did, and you could...
00:33:07.060My friend Lipton Matthews, who is Jamaican, I would look at the benefits that Jamaica has in terms of education, in terms of infrastructure, in terms of whatever, from having been, it still is, a British colony.
00:33:50.340But of course, it has to do with the British state in the here and now.
00:33:57.260You cannot repeat often enough that the profits from slavery made many British institutions, our banks, our universities, our churches, our...
00:34:15.440So I love the way, exactly, I was going to mention that.
00:34:20.680I love the way in which she transitions from, it's the responsibility of the British government to our, and that her community demands reparations, but it's ours as well.
00:34:31.920If it's yours, then you're not owed anything.
00:34:35.500It's also fascinating she mentions the church because it was, of course, Christian ideology, which even led us to abolish it.
00:34:41.820Fundamentally, Wilberforce and all of that.
00:35:33.300If you look at a picture of the Ottomans, of the ruling, the descendants of the Osman family, the Ottomans, they're all blonde, blue-haired.
00:35:45.800And that's not the natural look of a Turk, shall I say.
00:36:23.580Then we need serious reparations from the people that lived on the southwest coast, the people that lived even in Iceland.
00:36:31.700They went that far north and took slaves and held them in the most appalling conditions in many cases.
00:36:38.540They would live their lives as galley slaves, excreting where they sat.
00:36:43.240If they worked in the royal court, they would not just castrate them because they would also literally cut off their penises and force them to use some kind of distraught or urination.
00:37:09.940Because since this is a Christian society that is naturally vulnerable to guilt, it won't in any way work on a Muslim society.
00:37:19.880If you were to tell the Muslims, well, you guys took white people as slaves back in the day, the answer would be, yes, proudly so.
00:37:29.900So you have to remember that this sort of…
00:37:32.200All you can say to this is that this is just manipulation by people that are using covert manipulative tactics in order to extract resources from the population.
00:39:02.880So, to build a just and prosperous society, you must have reparations, otherwise you can't do it.
00:39:08.160And the question that I had, which was repeated by CuteQueen8, is if slavery is what made the West great, will the Africans practice slavery for much longer and continue to do so?
00:39:23.740So Mauritania, with 20-25% of its population as slaves, should be at the apex of human civilization, because apparently that's what makes a society great.
00:39:55.960But certainly with Finland and other parts of Europe, there wasn't any.
00:40:00.780So that is complete nonsense to say that slavery may have contributed in that you have free labor, but in the end, it was quite costly to maintain it.
00:40:17.820But I wanted to mention this guy, Julius Garvey, because he is the son of Marcus Garvey.
00:40:22.880And I wanted to read a little bit about the profile of Marcus Garvey.
00:40:29.520He wanted to make Africa into a single one-party state.
00:40:33.920He believed in a sort of pan-Africanism.
00:40:36.380Although he never visited the continent of Africa, he was committed to the Back to Africa movement, arguing that part of the diaspora should migrate there.
00:40:46.760His ideas became increasingly popular.
00:40:50.060And he was partnered with the KKK because they agreed that there should be complete separation between blacks and whites.
00:40:58.660And so the KKK were of the idea that, yeah, pretty much we need total and complete separation.
00:41:04.360But I just wanted to mention something about why Africa isn't being economically prosperous and use the example of this guy's father, Marcus Garvey.
00:41:14.740He built a company called NEGRO Factories Corporation.
00:41:21.760And it was part of the Universal NEGRO Improvement Association and African Communities League with a million dollars funded by black people.
00:41:37.120And the reason was because, and I quote, Garvey appointed inexperienced people to run organizations because he valued loyalty over competence.
00:41:47.880Now, what you see in every single African country is the exact same story.
00:41:52.780It's pretty much the exact same story.
00:41:54.700And it's the result of this being an extremely low-trust society where you can't have competent people running things because they might overthrow you.
00:42:04.760I would argue that this explains the situation of Africa today much more than what happened in the days of slavery.
00:42:57.500Look at the beam in your own eye first.
00:43:00.860So when you see these kinds of groups just blaming everybody but themselves for whatever happens to them or whatever happened to them in the past,
00:43:09.000you've got to ask, well, you know, to what extent is some of it your fault?
00:43:14.880Other societies had slavery, and they didn't do this badly.
00:43:18.900This is a video from the previous conference, and this is by a guy...
00:43:27.020But this is a guy who became the creative director of, I think, either Shakespeare's Theatre or some kind of very major Royal Society associated art group.
00:43:43.240And he's still saying, we want reparations, we want this, we want that.
00:43:47.560And sitting around in this are a bunch of MPs, Don Butler, Diane Abbott, Clive Lewis, Ribeiro Addy.
00:43:56.120I mean, if you become an MP in a country, you've made it.
00:43:59.620This is the highest echelon of political success.
00:44:02.100Yeah, but I mean, that's just another indictment on why foreigners shouldn't be allowed political office in the UK.
00:45:04.260I mean, there are tiny communities of blacks in the Middle East, and the way that they are treated is...
00:45:12.340I find it quite abhorrent still, you know?
00:45:15.660Like, Arabs are not shy about their racism.
00:45:18.100They wear it on their sleeves quite proudly.
00:45:20.800And so you have to ask yourselves, well, you know, in which society did blacks benefit the most?
00:45:26.880And one question to think about is, why is any black person in Western Europe going to be, on average, much richer than the average black person in Sub-Saharan Africa?
00:45:37.920I mean, where do you have a better standard of living?
00:45:49.240Does it have any economic value or financial value?
00:45:54.880So what they're saying is, what would make sense is that they would go back to the poorest part of Africa with kind of a 17th, 18th century standard of living, even in Africa.
00:46:13.560And they, no plumbing, no electricity, no modern comforts, living in a hut.
00:46:35.660And also, it wouldn't work, because what I can imagine would happen is that a lot of them would get these reparations and would then frit them away, and very quickly they would...
00:46:47.720Then they would say, oh, well, that was because you didn't teach us how to spend the money properly and educate us, because education, as you know, needs reparation.
00:47:18.400If you did a cross-section of the ethnicities that are on benefits in the UK, is there a predominant element that are ethnically descended from individuals such as this?
00:55:31.700I fully believe that this is sort of an old thing there.
00:55:35.880One of the most serious allegations is that Lay Day did not pay out compensation in full and failed to disclose its list of victims because some names were fabricated.
00:55:50.700But the Kenyans claimed that after they sued on behalf of the Mau Mau and Lay Day represented them, Lay Day made away with some of their money.
00:56:02.300They also sued BP because BP used a militia to protect their own assets in Colombia from other militias.
00:56:09.120They sued the British government for Iraq over torture allegations, got some people three million pounds, but then they ended up again being accused of misconduct.
00:56:20.500They got cleared from it, it should be said, but it came close.
00:56:26.380And one of the allegations was that one of the solicitors of Lay Day destroyed a key document at the center of the inquiry into alleged torture,
00:56:35.940suggesting that the Iraqis that were detained by British forces were members of an armed insurgency rather than innocent civilians.
00:56:42.880So the allegation here is a quite serious one.
00:56:46.880They sued Britain, sued Britain over emissions for cars, sued Britain for unexploded munitions.
00:56:55.600So basically horrific, greedy lawyers partnering with communists, traitors, and others demanding more and more money.
00:57:03.820And as we've sort of mentioned in the segment, slavery was always normal.
01:00:08.740Sigil Stone says, well, apart from medicine, irrigation, health, roads, cheese and education, baths and soccer, what have the British ever done for us?
01:09:01.700What AA calls the boomer truth regime is very, very strong.
01:09:06.420People that are otherwise sensible find it difficult to cope with the idea that Churchill was obviously a psychopath who played his part in bringing about World War II.
01:09:23.600I think that what we must talk about is a couple of things.
01:09:28.920One of them is that it was the communists who won World War II and won also in the West.
01:09:33.720And that we have been in the West living under some kind of idealization of communism for quite some time.
01:09:43.720And now it's becoming more and more open.
01:09:45.620And the communists are increasingly allying themselves with the Islamists who will A, destroy the West in its entirety and B, turn on the leftists and murder every last one of them when they get power.
01:09:57.940Are you proposing or stating that Islamists don't play nice for communists?
01:11:12.220In one of the manuals of the Muslim Brotherhood, they explain clearly that they want to ally with forces that would help them destroy the West from within.
01:11:19.280And they were speaking about that since 1991, I believe.
01:11:23.840And they'd had that idea for even longer.
01:14:40.200And so with Trump working on a couple of things, he's working on doing a lot of redistricting in the middle of an election cycle.
01:14:50.020Part of it by getting the Civil Rights Act out of redistricting so that race isn't a factor in drawing electoral districts for the House of Representatives.
01:14:59.740When that happens, the Democrats could lose 10, 12, 20 seats.
01:15:05.300And they're doing some redistricting within Republican states.
01:15:09.160And that's going to cost the Democrats a few seats, meaning that they can never control the House again as easily.
01:15:14.960Plus, the next census is going to exclude illegal aliens, meaning that the representation of northeastern states and western states is going to decline with the representation of...
01:15:35.920So when they're counted, it boosts the number of House seats that they get, and it boosts the number of electors in the electoral college that they get.
01:15:44.900So for the Democrats, keeping the illegal aliens and counting the illegal aliens in the census is important.
01:15:51.640And so Trump is doing these three things.
01:15:54.080And these guys are preparing a color revolution and are getting weapons from the Mexican cartels.
01:16:01.880When the midterms happen in 2026, in November 2026, the Democrats are going to come ready with a army that they know is mobilized, with the Antifa and Trantifa and other leftist goons, and with a narrative that says that the loss of the House in 2026 was not legitimate.
01:16:22.460And therefore, they need to escalate into violence, which is why the political leadership of the Democrats is not in any way condemning the violence, to get to a position where they run into the 2028 elections and they can really pull off some serious escalation.
01:16:39.320So Trump needs to get on top of this, both in terms of targeting the cartels, but also in terms of not just listing Antifa as a terrorist organization, which he's already done, but going after the financiers.
01:16:52.220And if you dig deep enough into the financiers, you're going to find, not just Soros, you're going to find, I will bet, Mexican cartel money involved as well.
01:17:01.800And if you look at the way in which, for example, ActBlue was able to funnel donations from people's accounts without them knowing it, without them being actually their account.
01:17:12.020So they did this thing where, Ed, you're a 90-year-old whatever living in your home, and then suddenly there are donations going to the Democratic Party in your name, and you don't know anything about them.
01:17:24.400So they're not taking money from your account, but the donations are being registered to you.
01:17:29.520So they did that with a lot of elderly citizens behind their backs, and to me this looks very clearly that this is money being laundered from the cartels.
01:17:41.880There's a level on which I, you know, in this book, Woke Eugenics, on this.
01:17:47.680It's like, I think wokeness is an evolutionary adaptation, as you know, whereby you induce people who are genetically sickly to basically resign from the gene pool.
01:18:10.920And also to cause people that are right-wing and conservative to bond with each other and to create separate communities that weather the storm.
01:18:20.560Even something like this, alternative media that's conservative, 20 years ago, there was nothing like this.
01:18:45.200And that kind of behaviour is only going to further that sense of in-group bonding, further polarisation, further the process of breaking away.
01:18:53.820So what you're saying is that we may eventually be rid of these people.
01:18:58.960But I think it will be in a context of socio-economic decline and people will break away into sort of a little, a bit like in South Africa.
01:19:07.760So, yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, I, I don't see it getting better before it gets considerably worse.
01:19:14.820And this, this, this, this stuff is really dangerous.
01:19:18.900It's obvious that they're preparing for a big escalation and it's very obvious that the same exact playbook will be used anywhere in Europe that tries to fix the problems of legal and illegal immigration.
01:19:31.640It's also obvious that if these problems with legal and illegal immigration don't get fixed, then the scenarios are extremely negative for the survival of the West.
01:19:43.140So there's an existential fight with these guys and they see it as existential because their power is piqued.
01:19:50.400Their ability to influence people through words has piqued because everything that they say is completely discredited.
01:19:56.500Reparations this, Islam is tolerant, blah, blah, blah.
01:25:26.640You want to show us, Samson, some of the video comments, please?
01:25:35.340The Robert Heinlein book, Farnham's Freehold, is about a family who got thrown forward in time into a society where blacks enslaved whites.
01:25:44.140I think such a society is what many Democrats dream of.
01:25:47.520No responsibilities and everything taken care of by your master.
01:27:01.780I can't help but notice that the same style of arguments about the English claim over their ancestral homeland are the exact same arguments used to attack the legitimacy of colonial English nations like Australia.
01:27:19.760Therefore, we often are forced to put forward an affair of decline for Western culture, not just relying on an appeal to tradition.
01:27:27.980I'm curious as to what your response is to these people using your own arguments against us.
01:27:36.200I'm not sure I fully got the gist of it.
01:27:50.520No, the argument against Australia is having a claim to them.
01:27:53.100Yeah, so the point is that he's making, sorry, is that in Australia, the arguments from the left is, this isn't your ancestral homeland, right?
01:28:03.860And so what is our response to them using that as the argument?
01:28:10.600And that's our argument for our claim to this land, basically.