The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1278

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1278 for Tuesday the 21st of

00:00:06.800 October 2025. I'm your host Luca joined today by Josh the Furminator. Hi. He said he'd be back

00:00:14.240 and he is and uh also a good friend of the show Lewis Brackfall. How are you sir? Very well

00:00:20.160 yourself? Yeah very well thank you thank you for coming in. Oh thank you. The pin here I just

00:00:25.040 realised I don't have a flag pin. Gotta be raising the colours man. Shame much shame. My divided

00:00:30.640 loyalties I'm gonna have a half Scottish half English one now. Oh I thought you were gonna go

00:00:34.560 Cornish. Well according to Ancestry I'm only like three percent Cornish. Oh well done. Which is weird.

00:00:41.040 Well done. Anyway today we're going to be talking all about the vote against the president-elect of

00:00:47.100 Oxford. We're then going to be talking about what the Home Office is trying to hide from us

00:00:51.860 and then we're going to be um defending the Lord of the Rings against the latest series of

00:00:57.580 baseless attacks and I can assure you. The Orc Hordes. Yes and I can assure you ladies and gentlemen

00:01:02.760 ahead of time rest assured that we will have only correct based and definitive takes during that

00:01:11.520 segment. So um with that all said before we do begin actually I just also want to point you towards

00:01:17.500 my own show of Chronicles because uh it was a bit of a tech issue on the website this weekend so

00:01:22.580 not everyone was able to see it go up and I've started the first of a two-part series looking at

00:01:27.780 Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. Uh it was a lot of fun to record and if you uh listen to it as well I do

00:01:35.820 attempt many of the lines read a few monologues myself um it's quite funny actually because um the

00:01:41.680 camera wasn't on so I was just able to like stand and perform them it was uh it was very fun anyway

00:01:47.040 so if you're interested go and check out one of what I have to say about one of Shakespeare's classics.

00:01:52.620 You're reading all of the sort of romantic lines so it's going to be like if you listen to it you're

00:01:56.080 slowly seducing the audience. Yes I I am Romeo and Juliet in the piece in a real bipolar sort of uh

00:02:05.600 romantic a very bipolar romance uh yeah anyway so let's talk about uh the president-elect of Oxford

00:02:14.480 shall we? So obviously I needn't remind you he's become somewhat infamous over the past few years

00:02:20.520 sorry past month um obviously because he made some statements uh after the horrible murder of Charlie

00:02:30.280 Kirk uh absolutely disgusting where he basically uh commented a lull when he heard that it had

00:02:37.660 happened and just let's effing go right which is an abhorrent thing for anyone to to say it's an

00:02:46.020 and it but it's an even more abhorrent thing given that he'd personally met Charlie and being at the

00:02:52.460 debate with him looked him in the eye presumably shook his hand as Charlie would have would have wanted

00:02:57.140 to do of course and but everything since then so obviously that put him under the microscope

00:03:02.400 and then what's more every other thing about him just revealed him to be a man totally lacking in

00:03:09.320 virtue or honor or any sense of ethics um which reminds me of course the fact that here at the

00:03:16.300 Lotus Eaters we hold such things as virtue and morality in very very high regard which is why one of

00:03:22.880 our great men Stelios has put together a course looking at ancient Greek virtue ethics going back

00:03:29.120 to antiquity and all of the lost wisdom in there into how to be a good person how to live a good life

00:03:36.740 um that is constructive for yourself and for your loved ones around you you can either buy it as a

00:03:43.020 one uh total sum uh for £325 or you can actually get it in three monthly installments because uh

00:03:51.520 it is coming up to Christmas and I'm sure people's wallets are starting to get pinched

00:03:55.880 so if that's something that you're interested in then please do go check it out I apologize as well

00:04:02.060 for being a bit hoarse ladies and gentlemen I'm a bit under the weather so as you can see here the

00:04:07.420 picture says a thousand words not only with the quotes but just the absolute lack of conduct right

00:04:14.400 there are there are thousands and thousands of young British students who will Oxford would be

00:04:22.080 the university of their dreams right and you would want to go there because it is the oldest university

00:04:28.260 in the in these aisles and it's one of the greatest prestige and we learned that it was basically

00:04:36.440 this position not only was he allowed to go to Oxford whilst not having the grades for it

00:04:41.960 right which can only really be attributed to the fact that he was obviously a diversity hire

00:04:47.400 obviously look at him well yes exactly but what's more of course the fact that he was already elevated

00:04:55.720 into a university that he wasn't worthy of and then from there was even more rewarded uh with

00:05:02.840 basically a vote to become the president of the Oxford Union now I just look at sorry no no do go look at

00:05:10.440 the absolute state of him though this is you know if I was at the border I'd be like you know you're

00:05:15.680 not even coming in let alone going to Oxford and let alone becoming the Oxford Union president isn't

00:05:20.600 it right like how on earth can this absurd it looks like he's wearing slippers tracksuit bottoms and a

00:05:27.440 horrible t-shirt I what what has happened to our culture where we allow someone like this even near to

00:05:35.460 it let alone hold a prominent position yeah seems more reflective of you know purposely doing that

00:05:41.300 to dishonor the other the other person who they're debating because you know when you go to a debate

00:05:46.260 and you know you have your notes and you prep you want to make sure you look presentable as well in any

00:05:51.760 format and it kind of it honors your opponent too because it says look I've made I've made the effort

00:05:58.380 to come here to present my ideas but also the prestigious union the prestigious institution of

00:06:05.900 the Oxford Union has long since been the home of debate and you know dialogue and if you go back

00:06:14.260 throughout history it's all to do you you see men dressed in such like perfect condition um for the

00:06:21.320 time and I think to be honest I see it as just a way that he'd done that to um to just dishonor his

00:06:27.440 opponent more than himself it's a humiliation ritual so yeah you're right to the institution

00:06:33.400 to his opponents not to himself oddly enough he doesn't feel humiliated by his state there

00:06:39.000 well he's he's just a human form of civilizational entropy really isn't he just devalues everything

00:06:46.060 he comes into proximity to by being like that yes absolutely very well said uh I would like to um

00:06:52.560 for sake of nuance point out what Adrian says here which is that the Oxford Union is a separately

00:06:57.400 legal entity and quite distinct from the university itself has its own building its own trustees

00:07:03.000 its own constitution and its own policies and procedures and in addition membership is not limited

00:07:08.520 to Oxford University students or alumni but open to those studying at certain other institutions so

00:07:15.120 please don't tarnish the university with the incompetence of the union officers or project onto the

00:07:21.920 university the disrepute into which they bring the union no don't worry the university has its own

00:07:27.780 reasons to yeah be in disrepute they are separate you're quite right but um we could make an entirely

00:07:34.200 separate segment talking about the problems with the actual university no uniform standards though no

00:07:41.060 um but the thing is as well other than of course the uh personal effect that this is having

00:07:48.800 on the fact that well obviously because of his comments about Charlie uh a vote of no confidence

00:07:54.780 was of course put in him rightly bloody so um and it shouldn't have taken this long frankly um but

00:08:02.560 what's more as well as you find in this GB news article the union is facing a financial crisis

00:08:08.160 after its president-elect appeared to celebrate the killing of Charlie Kirk last month donations to

00:08:13.980 believe uh believe to be worth hundreds of thousands of pounds have been put on hold and speakers have

00:08:19.960 pulled out of debates uh in backlash to remarks made by um George Aberonia and so you have this thing

00:08:28.500 where it's bringing um financial costs right now as well it's not just his reputation but as you say

00:08:36.720 he is a form of civilizational entropy Josh I mean look at that picture on the right hand side of the

00:08:42.100 article he looks like some sort of pirate at least he's wearing a you know a proper uh you know black

00:08:47.820 tie jacket but still he's wearing the weird the rag looking thing it's cringe it's really really cringe

00:08:55.260 um and let's not let's not forget as well the the most important thing that he actually had to say in

00:09:01.740 all of this and this was during a debate to effectively create change in the world we desire

00:09:07.280 inside prop will argue that at times there is simply nothing else that can be required other

00:09:12.000 than violent retaliation and this is a view I wholeheartedly agree with this view the view that

00:09:17.060 some institutions are too broken too aggressive too oppressive to be reformed like cancers of our

00:09:24.340 society they must and they should be taken down by any means necessary by any means necessary 0.99

00:09:30.600 what institutions is he actually talking about well the ones that obviously are ideological enemies

00:09:37.560 or not even enemies just not allies obviously to I don't understand though the the ruling class are in 0.54

00:09:43.620 favor of of progressivism yes which is why he's there in the first place yeah so I don't understand

00:09:49.560 what institutions was he actually talking about I've never I don't understand well it's just pure

00:09:55.280 typical student activism isn't it it's about thinking you're the rebellion while it's just

00:10:00.120 kicking in a whole hall of open doors right I think if you're the president elect of the Oxford

00:10:05.960 Union maybe you shouldn't be talking about destroying institutions because I hate to break it to you but

00:10:11.420 you're part of one well we'll get to that in just a minute so we have here as it says vote on Oxford

00:10:19.180 Union president in chaos over intimidation of officials so this was a this was a really bizarre

00:10:25.260 thing that made this you know really worth exploring the fact that it wasn't as simple as just having

00:10:31.300 a vote then all of a sudden these allegations came about about rigging and sabotage and right

00:10:38.460 all sorts of it says uh the proceedings this comes from uh this statement here and it goes on to say

00:10:46.660 the proceedings for the poll of no confidence brought in against George Aberonga were informally

00:10:52.360 suspended in the early morning of October the 20th this was not a formal decision taken based on

00:10:58.300 procedural necessity but rather due to the development of an impossible working atmosphere

00:11:03.700 the extraordinary returning officer was subjected to obstruction intimidation and unwarranted hostility

00:11:10.800 by a number of representatives and on account of this had no choice but to informally suspend the

00:11:17.200 process excuse me uh process as cooperation and progress was rendered untenable returning as a result

00:11:27.500 uh returning a result is of utmost importance the membership of voted in large numbers and the

00:11:33.680 oxford union society is fundamentally a democratic institution the voices of the membership must be

00:11:39.400 heard therefore proceedings will resume and the validity of proxy nominations where unfinished

00:11:45.060 will continue without representatives and so all of a sudden it really feels like general melchit

00:11:52.160 has been entirely vindicated when he said that oxford's a complete dump right we're in a position

00:11:58.460 where how has this happened how have we got to the point where um oxford democracy looks exactly like

00:12:06.220 something from tower hamlets right with um sleaze and sabotage it's almost like institutions can only be

00:12:14.740 preserved if certain people occupy the the spaces isn't it it's almost like the people are the important

00:12:19.940 part of the institution and not the the structure yeah in a um well this is um if i get from the um

00:12:27.380 article which i don't think i've got here it says uh in a meeting of the standing committee which aberonga was

00:12:32.400 permitted to attend as president-elect he and his supporters moved a revenge motion of no confidence

00:12:38.680 in the current president so obviously there's a president who's because he's only president-elect

00:12:44.240 so the one who he's obviously going to be taking over from uh a musa haraj uh for allowing alumni to vote

00:12:51.740 on saturday and they came prepared very with the requisite 150 signatures so that vote will take place

00:13:00.300 on thursday so there is now a vote against the president-elect and the president a revenge vote

00:13:06.660 of no confidence and what's more some of aberonga's allies have been framing the attempt to remove him

00:13:13.060 as would you guess racist oh of course uh according to the oxford branch of stand up to racism

00:13:20.040 um if this racist campaign to depose george is successful it will further embolden fascists and

00:13:26.660 the far right oh my god you know just the um as for racism it's worth noting uh in passing that

00:13:34.900 another screenshot from aberonga's whatsapp exchange shows him boasting i don't frequent white

00:13:42.000 establishments um now this is immediate deport well immediate deport but also i don't frequent white 0.82

00:13:48.940 establishments you're at oxford yeah it's sort of pretty white right i mean there's also it's quite

00:13:56.520 asian east asian in particular i mean don't get me wrong i actually uh respect the honesty you know

00:14:01.760 about the fact that you actually want nothing to do with those whatsoever i just guess sure yeah i

00:14:06.900 just suggest you go do it from another country then because what's more you can't have that both ways 0.96

00:14:11.560 you can't set up a parallel society and also have your entire career made up by that white society 0.91

00:14:19.540 by british society that you're in active rebellion against it reminds me a little bit of lenny henry that

00:14:25.380 you know the society that they hate gave them so much and it's done nothing to curb their

00:14:32.040 um insatiable appetite to destroy their host nation indeed and so we have a little but arbitrary victory

00:14:40.940 friends a victory nonetheless which is that he seems to have lost the vote of no confidence so a verdict

00:14:47.940 came in with 1746 ballots and it seems that uh we won by 1228 to 501 which let's just also say as well

00:15:02.780 the fact that there were 501 people connected to oxford that thought yeah this guy can stay

00:15:08.720 i like the cut of this guy's jib he seems to be the direction that this union needs to be going in

00:15:14.300 well the union um has gone in a quite a left-wing direction i know if you look at a talk from maybe

00:15:21.160 10 or 15 years ago perhaps um it seemed a lot more reasonable a lot more academic and a lot more in

00:15:28.080 keeping with what you would associate with oxford in recent years you know you get a right-wing guest

00:15:33.740 in and many of the annoying students in there are jeering and just the overall conduct has gone down

00:15:40.660 and i do wonder whether this is uh shaped why people like this might have so much popularity is

00:15:47.120 that the the political makeup of the people who attend and are members or whatever um has changed

00:15:53.820 there was just another part actually forgive me that was worth reading out as well which is that um

00:15:59.660 uh adrian goes on to say in this piece that the problem was not only his celebratory outburst at

00:16:05.600 kirk's death but the fact that other messengers have emerged suggesting that he holds the oxford

00:16:11.000 union itself in contempt when one friend wrote to him before his election in june if you hate it then

00:16:18.860 you should run for the presidency aberronya replied real lol that's what i did right so just yeah as you

00:16:28.220 say just being a total enemy destroying it from the inside and so really the question here should not

00:16:34.440 be whether or not this man should be the president-elect of the oxford union the first question should

00:16:41.720 be should he even be at oxford at all and i think we'll find the answer to that is also no judging by

00:16:47.640 his grades and then the question from there should be should he even be in the country of course and yes

00:16:53.720 i agree with your your head waving there josh i agree entirely and so but of course what we have

00:17:02.360 as we always have with gay race communists is that they never want to go down without a fight 0.93

00:17:07.360 they never believe themselves accountable for the things they say and they always seem to have a bit

00:17:13.760 of a defense around them and so you can see there was a statement here put out on his instagram where

00:17:20.340 he says uh this poll was compromised from the moment that um uh musa haraj and his majority of the

00:17:27.500 standing committee brought compromised and untested poll regulations and so he's just not long story

00:17:33.440 short he's not accepting the result so i wonder if facebook instagram uh twitter and youtube are

00:17:40.220 going to de-platform him now for not accepting this i wonder if that's going to happen i'm sure oxford

00:17:46.720 were merely fortifying it they weren't actually altering uh the outcome anyway so as you can see here

00:17:53.400 from this bottom line george aberonga is and remains the president elect per the oxford union rules ah

00:18:00.200 yes like an african warlord it's not over until he gives up power which is something that he will never

00:18:07.140 do without intervention and so obviously the the closing just things to say about this as well of

00:18:13.620 course is just the fact that although it's very sensible of course that um the membership of oxford

00:18:19.340 union seem to have decided to eject him it also can't be ignored that of course he was put there

00:18:26.920 by the union in the first place right and they can't get off scot-free for that right you cause this

00:18:33.540 the entire institution just allowed this to happen supporting a man for a whole profusion of reasons

00:18:41.320 any one of them would have rendered him totally unworthy of this position the fact that all of them 0.91

00:18:49.040 have collided together and he still was able to get it is absolutely ridiculous and it makes a

00:18:54.780 mockery of the whole institution doesn't it it does and as we can see from the uh uh funding

00:19:00.800 problems and what's more uh the whole union is paying for it right they're all suffering

00:19:06.540 and rightly so his foul opinions and what's more as well to echo something that um stelios was saying

00:19:13.980 in the segment back when we had this this isn't a matter of cancel culture this isn't a matter of

00:19:19.140 uh trying to remove this man because he has an opinion that i don't like the point is that this man

00:19:25.300 has an opinion that he wants you dead right he's totally indifferent to your murder even for people

00:19:32.300 he's actually met in polite society and so that sort of an opinion is basically an advocacy for

00:19:41.900 violence and can't be tolerated in the institutions as uh the left said freedom of speech doesn't

00:19:48.080 necessarily mean freedom from consequences they did say that didn't they did yeah i tell you what

00:19:52.740 if we can't get jimmy kimmel this guy's having some consequences

00:19:57.260 all right so uh from the rumble rants we've got uh sigil stone says they voted out uh captain yes

00:20:06.220 uh sparrow but now there's uh someone worse in the background whispering i love democracy

00:20:12.220 sorry you're quite right sigil stone that actually comes to another point as well which is just that

00:20:17.940 even though they're going to get rid of this guy it seems you know however much he holds up and is able

00:20:25.580 to defend himself here which i don't think he will because there's just there's too many incentives

00:20:30.580 for the union to get rid of him at this point uh whether through the orthodox means or not whether

00:20:36.640 they just have to arbitrarily you're gone non-orthodox means what they're gonna whack him like well i just

00:20:41.920 mean not by democratic vote of course um i'm not i'm not doing a goodfellas uh with this but the fact

00:20:48.600 of the matter is that um the the makeup of the institution that allowed a verdict like this to

00:20:56.340 happen in the first place and allowed him to be put in charge is still there and so why are we not

00:21:02.340 just going to end up with a second george abironga when this guy gets cleared out right they are sort

00:21:08.360 of spoiled for choice exactly and those are always the candidates who want to put themselves forward

00:21:13.600 so we will see what happens and that's a random name says ironically enough this clown is 100% right

00:21:20.560 when he says some institutions are beyond saving uh we must create a separate system and keep people

00:21:27.220 like him out afuera well i mean a very good point random name but of course even that's a point isn't

00:21:33.240 it even though he says oh you know some institutions need to be torn down he also owes his entire fake

00:21:41.580 career to those institutions uh they're so corrupt that they gave him a position in the first place

00:21:48.820 um all right and there's no youtube comments so we'll head over to you good sir thank you very much

00:21:55.640 thank you right um before we begin i just want to say a quick thank you to uh the lotus seaters for

00:22:04.220 having me in uh to discuss this very very important story uh i can't i say i can't believe i can sort of

00:22:13.080 believe that for the first time i'm under some sort of scandal is what you could probably call it so

00:22:19.100 i'm sorry if you are part of the audience that have already heard this story a hundred times even

00:22:24.820 though this happened only late last week but i wanted to go through this because um well not only

00:22:30.880 was i invited in to do this segment and to present it to you guys um the wonderful audience uh but

00:22:37.360 also it is incredibly important and it will affect everyone else uh so this is mere potentially the

00:22:44.280 stepping stone to something far more sinister um but first before we properly begin i will hand this over

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00:23:53.800 can definitely go check it out and you'll profit from it cool okay so what is the home office hiding

00:24:00.660 from us exactly so as you what aren't they what aren't they hiding is the bigger question right um

00:24:06.960 for the past year or so i'd been investigating the asylum accommodation contracts and uh stakeholder

00:24:14.620 policy around uh where who is it steering the agenda of the illegal migrant accommodation policy so

00:24:24.080 obviously as we know hundreds of thousands if not millions of illegal uh migrants have entered or

00:24:30.680 broken into britain and are being housed in hotels across uh our nation and so i want to know who's

00:24:38.940 benefiting from this financially and who are conducting meetings uh behind the scenes with the home office

00:24:46.280 and steering the uh the the asylum accommodation policy i think it's a fair question and to utilize

00:24:54.160 this i use the freedom of information act which was introduced by tony blair um during his reign

00:25:01.200 uh in early 2000s and fun fact he called it his biggest regret after he after he finished his uh long

00:25:11.920 term in british politics but still is involved very much so as we all know he was asked by a reporter what

00:25:19.920 is your biggest regret now he could have said the iraq war he could have said many things but he chose to

00:25:25.820 say the freedom of information act so i think that's a big omission for not only all of us but for your

00:25:32.680 audience too uh to understand how important the freedom of information act is and to try and acquire

00:25:39.220 data from government departments there's also something very satisfying about using blair's own

00:25:44.840 laws against the institutions he helped rig against the populace exactly there had to be one in there

00:25:51.940 that accidentally helped us exactly and so i recommend everyone to utilize this wonderful law

00:25:59.280 so thank you i'd like to say a special thanks to tony blair for introducing it and the tony blair institute

00:26:05.080 if you're looking for members you won't find me and tony but um so i asked uh the important question about

00:26:15.680 who is steering it in in more specifically the stakeholders and the home office as we've done

00:26:22.360 a segment before on um the lotus eaters and you were present um lucas when we were going through it

00:26:29.260 sorry luca um forgive me i get it a lot uh they actually gave me 14 ngos uh that have had consultation

00:26:39.220 meetings between 2020 and 2024 and it's ngos and charity engagement with the home office

00:26:46.040 um that have had uh meetings uh about the national asylum stakeholder forum the nasf

00:26:55.000 and its strategic engagement group so segs for matters in relation to asylum accommodation policy

00:27:03.800 and the engagement was primarily sharing of information with some organizations also acting

00:27:09.460 as delivery partners so extremely important and i published this on my youtube channel and then came

00:27:17.040 on to lotus eaters while when we had our um our segment and it's reached uh over a hundred thousand

00:27:24.460 views alone on this and i think it's important who is having these meetings so i decided in the video

00:27:32.240 to name the directors of each company and many of them sounded i seem to remember quite um non-british

00:27:42.680 they had quite foreign names almost as if they didn't really consider themselves stewards of england

00:27:48.200 or protecting anything about um its demographic integrity or its institutions or uh the indigenous

00:27:55.600 people's people's way of life indeed and so i decided to uh obviously name the directors because it's in the

00:28:04.900 public interest but also it's lawful you can do that because it's of course if you go onto these

00:28:11.380 websites it is displayed quite clearly the director of this company yeah it is public knowledge of course

00:28:19.120 well kind of public knowledge and so after posting this and doing the segment on lotus eaters i received

00:28:26.560 a message from a friend saying did you know that the guardian is talking about you and i thought oh

00:28:31.480 brilliant well let's have a look at what they've said and so the guardian put out this over a month ago

00:28:37.480 where it says refugee charities install safe rooms and relocate amid amid rise in far-right threats

00:28:45.180 now i was reading this and they even says one ngo placed on an online hit list

00:28:51.520 had to temporarily close its office owing to harassing phone calls i'm staying on your good side lewis

00:28:57.700 all of us well i i i'm pretty sure we um obviously didn't endorse harassment absolutely not

00:29:04.860 absolutely not so my i want to state my primary my prime sorry my primary role as a journalist is to

00:29:13.340 find information lawfully through the freedom of information act and that is one of my tools to use

00:29:18.860 and to disclose the information lawfully um and i am a rule player as much as you know a lot of people

00:29:26.540 uh don't want me to be i i do play by the rules um but i'm using the foi act like we discussed earlier

00:29:35.260 to embarrass the government um and to shine a light on information and draw out data uh to give to the

00:29:43.320 public because it's in the public interest and i am like an mp or what an mp support is supposed to

00:29:49.940 do is to serve my audience and just and to serve what it is that people are concerned about it's why

00:29:56.260 i'm now at a privileged uh position at restore britain being a director of the investigations unit

00:30:05.440 to help steer and to help with concerns from the public and people within institutions that

00:30:11.380 come to me with concerns that is my role um obviously i do not endorse anything illegal of

00:30:18.440 course i don't um i can't help but feel though whilst reading this particular article there isn't

00:30:25.720 any evidence to show what is being said and i'm just going to throw that out there i i'm so they

00:30:32.520 mention you so this is what i wanted to talk about let me just bring up my notes because i want to find

00:30:38.400 exactly here we go the charity commission a particular charity commission has taken the

00:30:45.960 highly unusual step of removing the names of trustees from several charities listed on its website

00:30:52.180 which so like i said you go on their website and it shows who the directors are it did so after the

00:30:58.960 home office gave a far-right influencer um the names of some organizations um with which it had meetings

00:31:06.940 about asylum accommodation following a freedom of information request so they're clearly talking

00:31:12.640 about me here yeah clearly but they don't mention me by name didn't ask for a comment from you didn't

00:31:18.180 ask for a comment nothing um but they got around that by just not mentioning my name but it's quite

00:31:24.540 clear that they are talking about me i don't know anyone else who's managed to get that information

00:31:28.380 you're a public figure it's on your website indeed but not be named now i cannot be named like

00:31:33.960 voldemort in harry potter very strange um and so after this uh i decided to follow up with more

00:31:41.520 freedom of information requests to try and get some more information on within these particular

00:31:48.540 meetings what is being discussed what are they talking about you know who benefits from this what

00:31:54.360 is the agenda and so after doing so and asking a simple question i posted this with screenshots and i

00:32:01.140 wanted to go through them and get your opinions so i put this is the most absurd foi response i've had

00:32:06.080 to date the home office has refused to release records about which ngos and charities are influencing

00:32:12.020 asylum accommodation policy because my social media activity and we'll go through this supposedly post

00:32:18.820 poses a safety risk and could trigger public backlash a public backlash is omitted from them not from me

00:32:28.740 disclosing it yeah i mean it's like saying if you if you tell people the awful things we've done there's

00:32:34.420 going to be public backlash therefore we can't allow you to know about it yeah like like the tories uh

00:32:40.100 did with their legacy with um all the afghans yes the super injunction exactly like trying to keep it

00:32:47.320 hush because they know that the public will be against it from the beginning so let's go through what

00:32:51.880 they said so here's my response uh from well here's the response from them to me and i've highlighted

00:32:57.540 some key parts it says we have considered your request carefully and can confirm that some

00:33:02.280 information falling uh falls within the scope um of this request um but the exemption applies where

00:33:09.940 disclosure would or be likely to inhibit the free and frank provision of advice and the free and frank

00:33:16.920 exchange of views for the purpose of deliberation it says the withheld information includes internal

00:33:23.560 materials prepared for the nasf and seg meetings so these particular meetings with the strategic

00:33:30.200 engagement group and the national asylum stakeholder forum it says and stakeholder engagement disclosure of

00:33:41.800 this information would likely to pre it would likely would sorry would be likely to prejudice the home

00:33:48.140 office's ability to engage in open honest and constructive dialogue with ngos and key stakeholders in these

00:33:56.180 uh matters now i don't buy that personally no but they go on to say they run a public interest sorry can

00:34:04.340 i just say as well with that it just what they're saying is it'll compromise our ability to be open

00:34:09.720 with um stakeholders yeah it's like and we've more we value them much more than we do about being open

00:34:17.120 with the people right just with order it's just a frank admission that no we care far more about the

00:34:22.000 opinions of the ngos yeah stakeholders and we do about you perhaps and so they continued by saying

00:34:29.180 however we consider that the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighs the interest in

00:34:35.680 disclosure of course releasing this information would likely inhibit the home office and its

00:34:41.780 stakeholders from engaging in free and frank discussions but they also said the exemption

00:34:46.860 applies where disclosure would endanger the physical or mental health of any individual or endanger the

00:34:54.300 safety of any individual they say the withheld information includes named individuals and organizations

00:35:01.020 taking into account the effect of information previously released under a previous request

00:35:06.300 there is real significant and specific risk and disclosure of the information in scope would cause

00:35:12.520 endangerment upset and distress to the individual individuals and families included there are also

00:35:20.000 safety concerns for the home office staff service providers and ngo representatives now i don't buy that

00:35:27.420 personally because when you go through um the process i know that they can redact names they can give a what is

00:35:36.420 called a partial disclosure and they redact any personal details that they would deem uh compromising or

00:35:43.180 anything however the reason why they won't um well i believe the reason why that they won't do this

00:35:49.720 or release names is because the names are public um figures they're they are in the public record so they don't have an argument to not release it so they can only use that and the article i believe as a way of saying this is the reason for why we can't use this i think the sort of best argument on their behalf to play devil's advocate

00:36:14.720 here would be that well if we tell you which institutions are doing these things because these these institutions are public facing you can then find out who these people are so it doesn't necessarily matter if they redact it because you'll be able to find it out anyway

00:36:30.060 exactly so my counter argument to that would be then why didn't you redact the 14 ngos that you gave to me in the first place

00:36:40.380 what's more is a matter of public record even to to simply take them at the word right and take their

00:36:46.980 reason as a reason when they say there is a real and significant and specific risk that disclosure of

00:36:52.040 the information uh could endanger cause endangerment upset and distress to the individuals and families

00:36:59.380 it's like that's exactly what these charities are doing to ordinary british people every day

00:37:05.700 that's because they support this system that allows illegal migrants to stay in these hotels that

00:37:11.580 have put countless people victims girls you know in harm's way right that's causing endangerment that's

00:37:20.060 calling distress that's causing genuine harm but they don't care about that well they basically admit

00:37:25.720 that if if we disclosed everything people would be so angry that they wouldn't be safe and i don't think

00:37:32.960 that's necessarily untrue because there is a lot of anger in this country about this but the solution

00:37:38.560 is not to then double down and try and say well we're not going to disclose information that it

00:37:44.540 that should be a matter of public record deserves to be a matter of public record and shouldn't be

00:37:49.720 done in the first place in my opinion you know none of this stuff um should be going on in an ordinary

00:37:55.780 and insane society and by covering up for it all it's doing is allowing these bad practices to carry on

00:38:02.380 and here's here's the part where it invokes more of the of a cover-up and more of a scandal is what

00:38:10.540 you could call it it says um uh there are also safety concerns that they said for the home office

00:38:17.280 staff service providers and ngo representatives recent social media activity by the requester

00:38:23.140 included sharing personal details and misleading narratives which has already caused safety concerns

00:38:29.960 among stakeholders additionally recent protests at asylum uh hotels have highlighted the validity

00:38:36.820 validity sorry volatility oh my gosh excuse me um volatility um of i've not even said that right

00:38:45.780 again volatility volatility got it there we go there we go forgive me um of public sentiment around

00:38:52.240 asylum policy disclosure of sensitive meeting content could further inflame tensions increase the risk of

00:38:59.940 targeted protests and place additional strain on public order resources so the part there recent social

00:39:07.880 media activity by the requester so me um included sharing personal details and misleading narratives so one

00:39:16.280 when you submit an foi request part of the foi act under law is that it's applicant blind it doesn't matter if i post it it doesn't matter if owen jones

00:39:27.220 like asked for requested information it doesn't matter if you like requested it doesn't matter if carl benjamin requested it it doesn't matter who is asking for the information it is applicant blind

00:39:38.840 and to then respond to me by saying the recent social media activity by the requester included sharing personal details i didn't

00:39:48.780 and misleading narratives i didn't i distinctly remembering your segment you were very very careful

00:39:55.860 to merely to merely just go through the names on the website and and what those charities do

00:40:02.160 correct in their own words right exactly commentary to me and beau you know but like you were very

00:40:07.620 of course yeah exactly the same with this segment i'm repeating exactly what they have given me

00:40:13.320 right which is my right and what they have given you is a misleading narrative about themselves presumably then

00:40:20.000 says maintaining the exemption preserves a safe space for operational planning and policy discussion

00:40:25.620 allowing officials and stakeholders to deliberate freely without fear of external interference or misrepresentation

00:40:33.620 it enables participants to speak openly and honestly and completely including exploring difficult or

00:40:40.120 sensitive options disclosure could inhibit this openness and reduce the quality of decision making

00:40:46.200 and it says conclusion the potential harm to the effective conduct of public affairs which doesn't

00:40:52.140 make a sense like any any sense stakeholder engagement and individual safety outweighs the benefits

00:40:57.820 of disclosure in this case so essentially they are stopping releasing this information

00:41:04.120 um one of the well one of the main reasons being my recent social media activity and so that is

00:41:13.260 unbelievable i've never heard of a case like this before personally um there might be other cases out

00:41:20.500 there i've not personally come across this before but after this because people are saying well what are you

00:41:25.880 going to do next about this obviously you have to go through the process of submitting an internal review

00:41:31.600 which gets passed to another person within the home office to check to see whether they've added the

00:41:37.820 correct um exemptions and i'm trying to fight for a at least a partial disclosure at the very least

00:41:45.400 but this in my opinion use of social media activity by the requester is not part of the foi act

00:41:54.020 that's just been crowbarred in there um which isn't right but also i i think that just looking at it

00:42:01.000 outside of the the legal aspect and more towards a moral yes perspective these people in the charities

00:42:07.840 presumably this was specific to um asylum hotel accommodation which is a policy that is obviously

00:42:14.600 very very controversial very much in the public interest very much lots of people that are very

00:42:19.420 interested in uh you know finding a solution to this and the majority of the population just want

00:42:26.160 them all deported all the illegals deported and these people are working to basically facilitate this 0.86

00:42:33.140 migrant hotel policy that's incredibly unpopular and they want shielding with government protection 0.73

00:42:39.260 from the public which they might not even be a member of um from being angry at them and protesting

00:42:46.700 maybe their organizations or knowing their names and tarnishing their professional reputation

00:42:51.840 i'm afraid you can't have your cake and eat it here if you try and interfere in our country's politics

00:42:56.860 particularly in something as um unpopular as this you know people have died because of these asylum 1.00

00:43:04.120 seekers you know needless to say obviously things like sexual assault and the like rife um from these

00:43:11.060 people costing the taxpayer lots of money i think people have a right here to be angry at the people

00:43:18.240 helping facilitate this and it doesn't mean that you know i support them being harassed or anything unlawful

00:43:25.000 but people deserve to know who these people are people deserve to know which organizations they represent

00:43:31.120 and who they work with and i think they deserve some pushback because what they're doing

00:43:35.460 is morally repugnant and i think that these people um do deserve you know reputation tarnishment they do

00:43:44.280 deserve to be criticized publicly because what they're doing is awful and so the seriousness of

00:43:52.880 this response um because of this i'm very grateful to have the support from particularly as well not just

00:44:01.760 from obviously load seaters but uh and other people that have made videos on on this particular story

00:44:07.100 but also rupert lowe who had written a letter to the home secretary about this and has said i'm writing

00:44:14.180 to express my deep concern over a recent foi act response issued by your department to journalist

00:44:20.340 lewis brackpool in that response the home office refused to release information concerning stakeholder

00:44:25.580 meetings influencing asylum accommodation policy the justification included an extraordinary and

00:44:32.460 improper statement that disclosure was being withheld in part because of quote recent social media

00:44:39.380 activity by the requester end quote which it claimed had already caused safety concerns among stakeholders

00:44:46.960 if accurate this represents a clear breach of the foi act 2000 and its central principle that requests

00:44:55.040 must be treated applicant blind the identity or perceived opinions of a requester are entirely irrelevant

00:45:01.820 and to whether information should be disclosed under law it would appear that a government department

00:45:08.260 has used a citizen's political or journalistic activity as grounds to deny transparency

00:45:13.980 an unexpected an unacceptable precedent which risks politicizing the foi process itself

00:45:20.980 i therefore asked you to provide one a full explanation sorry a full explanation of why the requester's

00:45:28.680 personal identity or social media presence was referenced in the decision to refuse disclosure

00:45:35.240 number two confirmation of whether senior officials approved or were sorry confirmation of whether

00:45:42.460 senior officials approved or were aware of this reasoning number three details of any internal guidance

00:45:48.000 or policy that authorizes staff to assess a request as personal activity or profile and number four

00:45:55.180 assurance the home office will review this case and issue a correct a corrective disclosure where appropriate so

00:46:02.980 it's going to be a long process um i've done this thing as well called a subject access request

00:46:09.860 and it felt horrible if i'm totally honest what you have to do

00:46:13.120 i have to basically ask a department do you hold information on me and you have to give over details

00:46:20.980 of yourself so like you know part of the process is giving over your uh you know you have to show

00:46:27.220 like an identity show a particular identity to prove who you are and proof of address and all of this sort

00:46:33.360 of stuff like a utility bill stuff like that and there's something really gross about oh i know that

00:46:40.840 they've been talking about me here's my details uh can you check to see whether they've spoken about me

00:46:46.680 and can you show me what they've spoken about it's a horrible horrible process uh it's really really

00:46:52.520 awful um but this is what it's risking because i actually predict um that we are going to see a

00:47:00.940 crackdown of the foi um because it's being it's it's a pretty effective tool which i've come to

00:47:08.620 realize over the past few years and using it and submitting lots and lots each week um because

00:47:14.900 over in australia the globalist left labor party over there uh claims it's tightening foi laws due

00:47:21.960 to ai bots and foreign actors uh swamping the system however it's come to its come to everyone's

00:47:29.200 attention that they don't have any evidence and there is a lack of proof for this but they are still

00:47:34.200 trying to put forward a clamp down on it so it's only a matter of time now before this starts to

00:47:39.820 happen somewhere in the uk because we tend to follow each other i would submit a freedom of

00:47:44.360 information request about whether where these allegations about ai bots and foreign actors

00:47:49.560 well there you go exactly um and yes this was yeah something to do with tony blair being criticized by

00:47:57.500 freedom of information inquiry yeah indeed uh yes um he repeated his view that he regrets

00:48:05.220 introducing the foi in 2000 because it has hugely constrained ministers confidence in having frank

00:48:11.560 discussions with advisors and that was back in 2012 so all i'm going to say is we're obviously

00:48:18.560 going to keep fighting this and trying to get disclosure uh i'm very grateful for uh the support

00:48:25.400 from not only um you know the the company i work for restore britain rupert but of course yourselves

00:48:31.180 and other people that are talking about this particular story um because this is going to affect if if they

00:48:37.760 get away with this it is going to affect everyone it doesn't matter whether you're owen jones lewis

00:48:43.920 brackpool josh or anyone else um because that means that the foi act is not applicant blind and can be

00:48:51.960 weaponized so it's incredibly important um unfortunately it's going to get pretty annoying

00:48:58.080 so i do apologize banging on about this until we get this resolved and it never happens again

00:49:04.360 um because it's unacceptable um but i'd like to thank uh for the support as well it really i really

00:49:11.380 appreciate it great work man oh thanks i really appreciate it all right i'll uh go through some of

00:49:17.280 the uh rumble rants we've got uh shadowband says uh really enjoyed lucas episode on romeo and juliet

00:49:22.940 chronicles quickly becoming one of my favorite weekly shows well thank you very much shadowband

00:49:27.040 uh i've got that that's a random name so the subversive if we tell you all the evil s we've uh

00:49:32.660 we've done you would boogaloo me that's my secret captain i was always going to boogaloo

00:49:39.160 um and then sigil stone says it's not in the public interest to know what the aristocrats have done now

00:49:45.560 and i see lucas vampire costume is coming along nicely not sure why he's wearing it before

00:49:52.940 how we know i'm not sure if this is a comment on like my pasty and sick complexion given or whether

00:49:58.820 it's the fact that i look like i'm dressed out of a hammer horror like peter cushing but um

00:50:04.160 either way thanks sigil stone um i hope you're well as well got some youtube comments as well oh sure

00:50:11.780 would you like me to read those you're not very well are you so i'll save you thanks gosh go on

00:50:17.980 then took me by surprise i thought i misheard for a second there uh turi um says the fabians do their

00:50:25.660 best to destroy the west correct very succinctly put thank you um brian uh february um george is

00:50:32.640 half white and talks about not wanting to go to white places is so performative this screams hatred 0.91

00:50:38.160 of the self for being um for being fully black what is that um i don't know but i get the gist of

00:50:44.780 what you're saying that he identifies with one part of himself and not the other and it's exactly

00:50:50.880 the same as a bob villain guy exactly the same and arcadia says uh why are you surprised the home

00:50:57.920 office is captured by the islamic leftist group think and is corrupt the whole department needs to 0.98

00:51:02.540 be broken up i'm not surprised this is the point um but i'm surprised they've made it so easy

00:51:08.100 for me to for basically to trip themselves up i'm surprised that they've they've messed up this

00:51:15.420 badly i know former lotus eater connor tomlinson did some work on exposing that network of muslims 1.00

00:51:22.020 in the home office and uh of course if they can get their relatives on a small boat over i'm being

00:51:27.900 facetious of course but they they have more um affinity for people of their own religion than they

00:51:33.820 do the host population is the actual serious point there and so that they're going to be pushing for

00:51:38.500 that sort of thing may i have one of those sure magical podcasting boxes a magic box and uh i'm not

00:51:50.500 going i was going to say and what's in my magic box today it sounds like a children's tv

00:51:54.320 now i'll introduce it properly so nick fuentes went after the lord of the rings and i took that

00:52:01.780 personally in this household the lord of the rings is sacred you don't criticize it you know this

00:52:06.940 organization lotus eaters normally i don't speak for all of lotus eaters but i can on this issue

00:52:11.240 because all of us love the lord of the rings and we are going to bat for it we're going to put this 0.82

00:52:16.640 down nick you know and and his uh grouper army are fools for insulting the lord of the rings although 0.81

00:52:24.220 it is fair to say that many of his own followers did push back against him for it i'm glad to hear 0.82

00:52:29.400 it um so there is uh some degree of sense there um so let's hear what he has to say um i do apologize 0.80

00:52:36.600 um for what he's like so oiler said 20 dollars you call me an idiot for asking a regular ask question 0.82

00:52:43.700 your solutions are just a variation of logo to college or something but at least if not a game 0.99

00:52:46.580 of thrones enjoy your fag preferring that slop over ltr is a crazy self-report 0.97

00:52:49.360 yeah self-report that i'm awesome that's a filter that's a filter if you like lord of the rings more 1.00

00:52:59.560 than game of thrones that that is the self-report that you're a larper you like gay little hobbits 0.99

00:53:05.100 gay little hobbits and the magic of friendship i like people getting their heads chopped off 1.00

00:53:11.520 for no reason because that's life and that's life a sword swinging around chopping everybody's 0.99

00:53:19.700 heads off at random and you like the power of friendship and magic rings and little elves and 0.98

00:53:26.380 the power of their friendship and big gay wizards big gay wizards they made them gay didn't they or am 0.94

00:53:33.820 i thinking about harry potter didn't they it's worth mentioning the actor that plays gandalfi 0.95

00:53:38.700 mckellen i think is is gay maybe that's what he's confusing with but uh make the wizard gay or 0.56

00:53:43.840 bisexual or something that's what i know it's not in the original tolkien or whatever but 0.75

00:53:47.820 that's and that's what you like so yeah sorry i do does he does you know you know the lord of the

00:53:55.460 rings is catholic yes it's written like tolkien and it's it's incredibly catholic there are so many

00:54:02.760 allegories to christianity within the storyline but it's done in such a way that it can be

00:54:08.620 recognized by people who aren't even christian as being a sort of transcendental piece of art

00:54:14.840 right it evokes the the virtues um within people without necessarily having to be an adherent

00:54:22.240 and i think as luke has talked about before tolkien wrote this to be a mythology for the english right

00:54:29.000 yes for england because um we'd lost so much of it during the time of the uh viking invasions

00:54:35.280 and even of course um a text like beowulf though still wonderful and obviously penned probably by an

00:54:41.840 anglo-saxon monk of course in its origins it is uh continental it's germanic you know it comes from

00:54:49.100 the tale of the danes and the gay acts and you know so it's of another people and so tolkien wanted 0.73

00:54:54.480 to find something to replace what we'd had personally lost and so in that way you know

00:55:00.580 when you have a corporation like amazon right trying to make it inclusive trying to it's like

00:55:06.240 well if we can just stick enough foreign faces in it it becomes for everyone it's like yeah but this

00:55:11.060 is what you don't understand right not all stories have to be made for everyone some stories the most

00:55:17.700 powerful stories respond to a particular people and that's why the lord of the rings is continually

00:55:23.280 you know topped as the favorite book of the british public because we understand it because

00:55:27.960 we see ourselves represented in its story when i read chinese literature i don't want some random

00:55:33.620 white guy inserted in it no it's silly it's a silly argument but he does carry on i'm only going to play

00:55:39.280 a little bit more but it does lead to a wider discussion about these sorts of things and uh there 0.64

00:55:45.680 was basically almost you know civil war not in the temple sense but in the rights were very angry with

00:55:54.160 one another and it created a new fault line like game of thrones you're right i do like game of thrones

00:56:00.920 better than lord of the rings and that is a self-report but not like you think no the opposite is true

00:56:06.680 and game of thrones is awesome

00:56:08.760 so it's not finished though is it no that's true we'll leave it there because i don't want to

00:56:18.980 listen to this blasphemy anymore but um he did you know triple down you know he initially said it then

00:56:27.100 he doubled down there and he tripled down here um and he says it's not even rage bait i fell asleep

00:56:32.400 watching every single lord of the rings movie because they're boring there's too much crying

00:56:36.340 and talking about friendship and i i think hate the hobbits i thought the ranger was cringe um the

00:56:41.500 cgi is terrible game of thrones was awesome and and i would like to point out that you don't have to

00:56:47.320 pick a side here i like game of friends as well yeah i do and uh you know particularly um i haven't

00:56:52.880 read the books of game of friends i've read the lord of the rings books um so i can't judge those but

00:56:57.700 the you know other than the last two series of game of thrones i really really enjoyed it and i

00:57:02.000 enjoyed every episode um barring one or two and i thought it was relatively well done but i don't

00:57:08.520 think it's comparable to the lord of the rings as a as a piece of art and uh some other people were

00:57:15.140 were coming out and uh saying things like saying you like lord of the rings over game of thrones or

00:57:18.800 any other morally gray universe is basically a self-report that you see the world in simple

00:57:23.220 black and white terms rather than trying to grasp its complexity it's more about intellect than it is

00:57:27.840 about taste and uh oh is it really uber sorry yes and uh i had

00:57:33.960 quite a rebuttal um well done josh well done you're welcome i i wasn't feeling particularly

00:57:43.640 intellectual when you come for lord of the rings i am going for the jugular i'm afraid but we are

00:57:48.420 going to talk about this in particular this line because i don't think the lord of the rings is boring

00:57:53.220 i think most people will um agree that it's a very captivating series that draws you in immediately

00:57:59.680 so i'm not going to try and dispute that because i think that's for you guys to understand um sort of

00:58:05.060 understand and appreciate but what i am going to do also can i just say on that point as well because

00:58:10.120 i i've met people in my life who um you know thought the lord of the rings was boring you know that

00:58:15.560 and they're not in my life anymore but you know more than that more than that they're still missing to

00:58:20.480 this day but more than that right my point is actually that you can actually be bored on a

00:58:27.120 personal level by a film and still appreciate it right you can still look at it in an objective way

00:58:33.620 and you say i get why it's brilliant i get why people adore it it's just not my thing that's

00:58:38.820 something totally different but to just like say oh it's boring is like and therefore no one should

00:58:44.720 mean it's just it's very low it's very low so i wanted to talk about um an example of someone who

00:58:54.280 isn't necessarily black and white in in great detail and talk about theoden and his sort of hero's

00:58:59.880 journey so um speaking of hero's journey stelios obviously uh hero of of greece um will teach you

00:59:12.580 the ways of virtue and ethics so you can recreate the lord of the rings in your own life by being a

00:59:17.240 virtuous hero and you can pay in free installments um if you don't want to pay in one sum he spent an

00:59:22.720 inordinate amount of time working on this he was working on it for a few months before i i left full

00:59:27.480 time and so you left i know yeah i'm a contributor first i've heard of him i'm back with a vengeance

00:59:36.020 like a rash but worse um but anyway let's talk about ferdin shall we so he starts off

00:59:42.040 as a frall of saruman he doesn't really have any agency whatsoever he's having uh things whispered

00:59:48.740 in his ear to the point where he is unfazed by the death of his own son and he casts out aemer

00:59:55.260 his nephew isn't he um from his kingdom even though he's been nothing but loyal to him

01:00:01.760 and is right about everything and uh then of course gandalf comes out breaks the spell

01:00:08.620 and um great scene it's a fantastic scene i watched it last night i stayed up

01:00:14.200 really late watching as much of the lord of the rings as i could for research purposes obviously

01:00:20.120 not just because i'm watching it for the millionth time but so he starts at a very low place he you

01:00:26.160 know obviously he's being controlled by another person um and i think the beauty of tolkien is that

01:00:33.020 he's not talking about the interpersonal conflict or the conflict between kingdoms like in game of

01:00:38.320 thrones he's talking about the conflict within ourselves i think that's far more interesting in

01:00:42.880 a piece of art because most of us aren't in the position to govern the the conflicts of kingdoms

01:00:48.020 we're not key players in that sort of thing we're ordinary people and ordinary people

01:00:53.280 are more interested in how to be a good person in their own life in their own little kingdom

01:00:59.000 rather than on on a national level necessarily so it's more pertinent more relevant to most people

01:01:05.100 and i think there's more beauty in it because it's so easy to understand you know the intricacies of

01:01:10.860 governance aren't necessarily beautiful are they it's a weird thing to say whereas the intricacies of

01:01:17.080 you know a human soul there is beauty there and i think that this is far richer substrate for

01:01:23.460 beautiful art to grow i was gonna say like can you get that with game of thrones can you literally

01:01:28.420 like reel off something as you know meaningful and as poetic for game of thrones or is it just

01:01:35.580 about chopping people's heads off like nick it's it's sort of the more basal aspects of humanity and

01:01:41.440 the part of the reason i quite enjoyed game of thrones is that it does show a more accurate

01:01:46.240 depiction of the real world because it's inspired by a lot of true historic events but um the problem

01:01:53.080 is that a lot of the higher ideals that it tries to explore it doesn't really understand and i think

01:01:59.960 that that's because rather than by tolkien it's written by a great big fat american man um rather

01:02:07.260 than a professor of anglo-saxons american man yeah is he a religious is he an atheist i think he might be

01:02:12.580 an atheist but you know this is them you know no disrespect to george r r martin's writing um i have

01:02:19.080 read little bits i've not even read the first book they are wonderful yeah so i you know but i'm saying

01:02:25.480 that the qualities the man has aren't as rich as that of tolkien therefore that you know in the song

01:02:31.120 yeah exactly divine inspiration i would say um yeah there's another aspect as well to to grima's

01:02:37.740 character and the words that he spins into theoden's ear um which is also just the point that

01:02:43.320 um to to listen to the voice that tells you not to trust your own strength in action is is the way

01:02:52.900 forward not to do anything not not to be virtuous not to rise above not uh not to defend not to preserve

01:03:00.280 well there are so many lessons and we're going to end on one uh in the lord of the rings for the

01:03:04.220 current time and it's part of its timelessness that makes it a beautiful work of art and so um when

01:03:11.300 he comes to after he escapes uh the frail of saruman there's a really touching scene um which uh always

01:03:19.700 pretty much brings me as close to tears as uh you know a man can uh where he he talks about the flower

01:03:27.460 that grows on the graves of his ancestors uh symbol moon i think he calls it um i'm going to read the

01:03:33.120 quote here ever has it grown on the tombs of my forebears now which will cover the grave of my son

01:03:38.000 alas that these evil days should be mine the young perish and the old linger that i should live to see 0.99

01:03:43.580 that last days of my house and then he stops and says no parent should have to bury their child

01:03:49.040 and collapses to his knees in in tears you see this stoic man return to form only to be broken down

01:03:55.420 again um at his lowest point losing his son and rather than a king you see a man

01:04:00.240 and a very human relationship and this makes you feel for the man you see that he's a good man

01:04:07.940 the whole character is masterfully portrayed by bernard hill who obviously passed away last year but

01:04:14.700 what a loss because he was incredible piece yeah so um he goes to helms deep um and this is presented in

01:04:23.800 the in the films in particular as a sort of mistake that he was trapping himself but what he he's not

01:04:28.860 necessarily doing a bad thing but he's scared for the fate of his people he wants to protect them

01:04:33.840 and it's not necessarily ignoble but a strategic mistake as they rightly point out um in in uh the

01:04:42.240 film in the two towers particularly and this fear of of you know not being able to live up to that

01:04:50.740 of his ancestors and not being a strong enough man um is is reasonable given his position i think as

01:04:58.880 well and uh as as the siege goes on um may i just say one thing as well about his relationship with

01:05:05.800 aragorn as well which is of course aragorn is older than him right but aragorn being of ladunadine

01:05:12.880 still has lots and lots of time theoden is a is against the clock he's already an old man

01:05:20.000 and so though aragorn has this vitality and is wise beyond his appearance because he actually has a

01:05:27.300 number of years on theoden it contributes to theoden's insecurities around aragorn this is me

01:05:34.040 just purely talking about the films no that's that's very true um an important point but through

01:05:39.860 aragorn you've segued perfectly through aragorn basically encouraging him to face one last stand

01:05:45.420 he's and he uh he charges out of the the keep of his castle out across the bridge when all hope is

01:05:53.700 lost um presumably to his death um but he has the bravery to charge forwards anyway and i think that

01:06:01.560 he realizes it's within himself to confront evil and that he has the bravery to do it but he does

01:06:08.400 acknowledge in in the films that it was aragorn that helped him encourage him and uh and find

01:06:13.160 this bravery and that the victory wasn't truly his which is actually quite fair really yeah he does do

01:06:20.220 that well it's to be to be it's not it's to be a wise leader it's to to be aware of your own

01:06:26.400 shortcomings it's to know to recognize greatness in others as well this is part of what makes a great

01:06:32.240 king and obviously for tolkien um the virtues of a good king were the highest ideals that mankind

01:06:39.720 could really exhibit i very much agree with tolkien on that one and of course his uh nephew

01:06:46.440 who was previously estranged is he's reunited with him and he helps save the day um and then

01:06:54.680 i think his virtues are truly uh realized in the charge of the rohirim um this is his moment of

01:07:03.540 bravery no one else can be attributed to it he gives a rousing speech and he charges down the enemy

01:07:11.240 shouting death because they believe they're going to their death and the battle cannot be won but they

01:07:16.440 charge anyway because they know it is the right thing to do which i think is the ultimate um test of

01:07:21.900 bravery i think uh there's also lots of allegories here to tolkien in the first world war charging over

01:07:28.480 the top to their their death and it being inevitable it's very difficult not to draw this

01:07:33.640 uh parallel as well as the historical um um parallel with um the polish is ours at the siege of vienna

01:07:43.880 against the ottomans as well which i i think is part of the inspiration for us but i think that

01:07:49.400 tolkien has first-hand experience of this sort of thing right and so he's able to depict it in such a

01:07:55.320 you know an emotionally resonant way i suppose is the way to say it and the fact that it is fared in

01:08:04.620 that is right at the front i know in the book he's said to be speeding at the enemy um with you know the

01:08:11.300 weight of his forebears behind him faster than he possibly could basically saying that he is about as

01:08:18.300 resolved to meet the enemy as it is possible to be and can i just say one other thing about the 0.96

01:08:25.800 the charge at the pelennor fields as well to come back to nick's point about um those gay little hobbits 1.00

01:08:31.500 is the fact that of course mary is is in that charge right as well and you know obviously the

01:08:37.840 hobbit is just your archetypical englishman it's just your everyday englishman from the shires 0.90

01:08:44.000 well i think they represent just normal people people who might have been conscripted

01:08:48.720 in in the army in tolkien's day who can find more courage and bravery than they perhaps realized they

01:08:54.300 were capable of just living their quiet happy existence but actually an englishman can go out

01:08:59.920 into the world he can do great deeds he can perform great feats of bravery i mean if you look at it very

01:09:05.860 simply they're just they're little people that are able to achieve great things aren't they yeah it's

01:09:10.460 not that hard to extrapolate an analogy from and uh his uh charge is so heroic that fayden can only be

01:09:18.160 stopped by the embodiment of death itself more or less i mean this is sort of the platonic ideal of

01:09:24.500 death the the witch king of angmar i believe such good armor yeah it's so cool um i want to play war 0.83

01:09:32.060 that's my commentary for the witch king but um even then um he was able to inspire his adopted

01:09:42.420 daughter eowyn um to defend him in to his last and defeat what is previously believed to be an 0.91

01:09:49.260 undefeatable enemy she is motivated not only by her desire to protect her kingdom and her family but 0.71

01:09:55.980 her love for him and because he is a good man and so she did the heroic act um out of this love for

01:10:03.740 him basically and the point is with all of these things all these things that inspire virtue you

01:10:09.640 know bravery honor love these are things beyond the understanding of sauron but the point is that

01:10:16.360 the dark lord has no utility for the iq fuentes has no utility for for things like honor and bravery 1.00

01:10:24.200 he just gets bored by it apparently um so he he spends his last moments um uh in in a fitting way

01:10:34.500 i think he with his adopted daughter who he inspired and who he loves and uh who he's very proud of

01:10:42.000 and uh i think the line that stuck with me here is my body is broken i go to my father's and even in

01:10:48.520 their mighty company i shall not now be ashamed and of course now is the important word that he

01:10:53.920 recognizes that he is worthy of um their company that he has lived up to these expectations

01:11:01.200 and how this could be black and white i do not know like this is so obviously a very nuanced look

01:11:09.460 at a person who has lost hope who doesn't have self-confidence finding their courage with the

01:11:15.620 right guidance and the right circumstances and making something greater of themselves that is

01:11:20.860 worthy of remembrance and um talking just uh plays it so masterfully in his writing as well because

01:11:27.580 of course um there is another character prominent ruler who dies at the same time as as theoden and

01:11:34.120 that's of course denethor right and so do you want to go out like theoden or do you want to go out

01:11:39.260 like denethor there's a clear contrast between the two sort of like the fellowship in the nine isn't it

01:11:45.000 yeah so um there are also other examples of course oh yeah there's this one um i forgot i quoted myself

01:11:53.480 here a bit embarrassing um this is uh the morally black and white media here and this is of course

01:11:59.460 from treebeard i am not altogether on anybody's side because nobody is altogether on my side if you

01:12:05.200 understand me nobody cares for the woods as i care for them not even elves nowadays which could have

01:12:09.540 come out of my mouth minus the elves part you know big defender of trees me um it's not elves there

01:12:16.720 aren't any um obviously a nuanced faction i suppose if you could call them that because they recognize

01:12:26.000 that there's no one on their side and no one's coming to help them and of course this is a comment

01:12:30.580 on industrialization isn't it that no one cares for trees and you should and i agree with tolkien's

01:12:35.920 perspective here sort of an anti-industrial vein to it and of course there are other examples here

01:12:43.420 boromir um he is not a uh morally black and white character is he one does not simply forget about

01:12:50.320 boromir no fantastic character though and you know in the end he does redeem himself but he's constantly

01:12:58.220 uh you know susceptible to the corruption of the ring and the draw of the power sin i mean i you know

01:13:05.760 i i'd just be humble about it and say i think it's the greatest on-screen death in all the cinema

01:13:10.280 i genuinely do like name me a better one it's unbelievable he does have the hero's death in

01:13:17.500 the end after you know trying to take the ring from frodo the one thing he swore not to do

01:13:22.020 um and of course there's aragorn as well um and i'd like to read a an extract from the books

01:13:29.300 about aragorn because of course this um speaks of many things to do with his character all that

01:13:36.360 is gold does not glitter not all those who wander are lost the old that is strong does not wither

01:13:41.900 deep roots not reached by the frost from the ashes of fire shall be woken a light from the shadows shall

01:13:48.080 spring renewed shall the blade that was broken the crownless again shall be king of course this is

01:13:53.640 talking about his future and how he how his old lineage um can be revitalized and it can be born

01:14:02.100 anew and how is this not an excellent parallel for the modern day when things are corrupted when things

01:14:08.040 need to be born anew how things are rootless people are rootless that's a direct link to obviously christ

01:14:13.700 as well in the biblical story which is clearly you know drawing parallels with that you have all of

01:14:19.020 these um not quite the right but just items or you know things throughout the history of middle earth

01:14:26.680 that kind of echo down the ages and even though they have to be transformed like um say for example

01:14:33.240 the white tree of gondor you know that's obviously withered by the time you get to the events of

01:14:38.820 return of the king but like that tree itself was took taken as a sapling from the garden of

01:14:44.880 numenor which in itself was a gift from the and so things there's always an attempt by evil to destroy

01:14:50.900 these things or like that the light that frodo has in shelob's lair the light of her endiel that

01:14:56.800 light comes from the original light of the two trees of the valar and even though morgoth destroyed

01:15:03.000 them and then they went to what stole the silmarils that the light was taken and on and on it goes

01:15:07.800 until eventually all you've got left is this tiny little vial of light but the light is still there

01:15:13.920 right and frodo carries that light and so tolkien is using this incredible legendarium of you know

01:15:19.980 50 000 years and just showing how to preserve these things they might never be the true splendor that

01:15:27.160 they were in the very beginning but that doesn't mean you know casting them away or destroying them

01:15:34.300 absolutely and uh lots of people were talking about this sort of thing uh here's howling mutant

01:15:39.200 saying i know a right um as a right winger when it comes to consuming media what i'm really looking

01:15:43.940 for is a strong sense of moral relativism just some excellent sarcasm there that's good and uh i quite

01:15:51.020 like this as well uh in my story i do not deal in absolute evil i do not think there is such a thing

01:15:56.180 since that is zero i do not think that at any rate um and any rational being is wholly evil this is of

01:16:04.260 course tolkien himself um saying this so you know he didn't even believe in it himself um here's

01:16:12.500 another one here who the heck can read tolkien to think it's black and white is denifer all bad

01:16:16.360 is borromeo is frodo all good one of the central most important characters in the whole book is gollum

01:16:21.480 and he's ambiguous as hell anyway game of thrones isn't morally gray it's gray and black without any

01:16:27.540 white um just as dull and predictable as what they falsely think lord of the rings is and i don't agree

01:16:33.660 with that last part i think that you've got to be a bit more charitable to game of thrones i still

01:16:37.660 enjoy it and i still think it's good media it's just not on the same level as the lord of the rings

01:16:42.560 lots of incest yeah it's it's just it's the basal human instincts represented rather than the most

01:16:50.240 transcendental ones um here's another one that they're talking about battles um the battle of 0.92

01:16:57.320 the bastards in game of thrones is the best battle i'm sorry but you know helms deep uh the battle of

01:17:05.000 pelham fields the last stand outside the black gate all fantastic yeah with the mouse of sorrow i mean 0.97

01:17:11.040 even the fight in balan's tomb with the fellowship is trying to see filmed

01:17:15.060 aha here i am yeah there we go and lots of people agreed with me that obviously the charge

01:17:22.120 sensible people yes and people pointing out that this this shot here is just inspired by the one

01:17:30.380 of aragorn yeah it is yeah clearly yeah yeah clearly yeah they are very similar um and in fact this one's

01:17:38.340 much better why are you superior um and uh i really liked this as well um i don't know who

01:17:45.660 this person is wh auden but it was a review of lord of the rings and i think they they they get it

01:17:50.260 evil that is has every advantage but one it is inferior in imagination good can imagine the

01:17:55.580 possibility of becoming evil hence the refusal of gandalf and aragorn to use the ring but evil

01:18:00.400 defiantly chosen can no longer imagine anything but itself sauron cannot imagine any motives except

01:18:06.240 lust for domination and fear so that when he has learned that his enemies have the ring he thought

01:18:11.220 they might try to destroy it never enters his head and his eyes kept towards gondor and away from

01:18:16.440 mortal and the mount of doom which you know is true and a very succinct way of understanding

01:18:23.000 the distinction here between the different moral virtues and the nature of good and evil

01:18:28.160 and um there's a very long post here and i've been going on for a while um but there were other

01:18:34.060 people that were putting up good defenses and talking about tolkien's life and how um things

01:18:38.780 like that um this one i think is probably my favorite from kevin mclean here um they really

01:18:45.900 get it um to give them credit so well done true because tolkien after he wrote for years and years

01:18:53.020 i believe you know the the exact years that he was writing lord of the rings but um i'm certain that

01:18:59.540 he not regretted it but he was disappointed in writing it during his time after he had written

01:19:07.160 it you thought it was a waste of time is that correct no i i don't think that he did want the

01:19:14.000 lord of the rings to be published as a joint as a deal so basically it would come out with the

01:19:20.060 silmarillion you didn't see one as the greatest story or the other he just saw them as two companion

01:19:25.340 pieces um but the the publishers just really wanted a sequel to the hobbit right and so they

01:19:31.260 cared more about getting the lord of the rings story down and obviously the silmarillion never

01:19:35.640 ended up being published in tolkien's own life where have i gotten that from then is that just

01:19:40.700 complete like cod's wallet then that um that tolkien actually not regretted it but um felt like it was a

01:19:48.220 waste of time in his own merit i i don't know i don't want to draw it out of hand um i mean he's true

01:19:55.100 he was remarkably humble when you actually listen to the way he talks about his own inventions and

01:19:59.960 this entire world that he's created it could just be him being modest yeah it could be i mean the

01:20:04.340 entire shrugging i wasn't sure whether that was true or not um but yeah i'd seen it somewhere and

01:20:09.460 the final thing i wanted to point out is that uh our own government sees it as a uh our right

01:20:15.380 extremist text the lord of the rings and so if our enemies want it banned it must probably be good

01:20:21.220 but the thing is with this as well right because the the progressives always try to co-op the lord

01:20:26.600 of the rings and they say oh actually you know the the fellowship represents the the true spirit of

01:20:31.980 diversity is our strength and everything right they they always play it down that line one if it is true

01:20:37.520 that um the lord of rings is innately left wing then why is it on a prevent list right second of all

01:20:44.380 um of course it ignores everything that tolkien actually believed in and this is of course why they

01:20:49.900 hate it this is why they have to bastardize it um because ultimately like um i hate to do him down

01:20:56.860 because his portrayal was so great but you know with someone like an actor like vigo mortensen

01:21:02.020 who played aragon like the actor himself is um quite quite left wing and there was one part where the

01:21:09.500 uh the spanish political party vox used aragon in some of their campaigning material and obviously

01:21:15.600 they're very anti-immigration and everything and um vigo was just saying this is a total misuse of

01:21:21.800 aragon it totally must misunderstands his character it's like vigo which side did tolkien support in the

01:21:28.440 spanish civil war was it was it the nationalist side or was it oh right it was a nationalist side

01:21:34.640 you know it's just so obvious where tolkien draws inspiration from i wanted to end on this so this

01:21:42.760 is actually a speech added to the films it's not in the original books um this was written by peter

01:21:47.720 jackson who was obviously the director of the films and one of his writers and i think that this

01:21:52.720 epitomizes above all else um not only some of the messaging in the film but also the fact that the film

01:21:58.920 can inspire things this doesn't feel out of place in the work of tolkien whatsoever and i think

01:22:03.980 is a very beautiful sentiment the point being that tolkien's work was able to inspire this

01:22:08.520 and and it doesn't seem out of place it sounds like it came out of his uh pen i suppose and uh

01:22:15.120 i'm going to read it so this is of course when uh they're in the two towers uh they're in captured

01:22:21.520 by faramir and in ogsgillief it's under siege yeah and frodo says i can't do this sam and then sam

01:22:28.580 says i know it's all wrong by rights we shouldn't even be here but we are it's like in the great

01:22:33.940 stories mr frodo the ones that really mattered full of darkness and danger they were and sometimes

01:22:38.360 you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy how could the world go back to the

01:22:42.900 way it was when so much bad happened but in the end it's only a passing thing this shadow even

01:22:48.420 darkness must pass a new day will come when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer those were

01:22:54.860 the stories that stayed with you that meant something even if they were too small even if you

01:22:59.800 were too small to understand why but i think mr frodo i do understand i know now folk in those

01:23:05.080 stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't because they were holding on to something

01:23:09.720 and frodo says what are they holding on to sam that there's some good in this world mr frodo and

01:23:14.680 it's worth fighting for and if you can't take that message away as being the most pertinent thing for

01:23:21.060 our times um there's something wrong with you that this is um you know when i read it it reminded me of

01:23:28.880 my political journey you know i came from a literal shire there was a place around the corner

01:23:33.780 from where i grew up that looked just like the shire i've come to mordor swindon it even has a

01:23:38.160 great big tower in the middle um it's filled with balance here um and the the things i i've said and

01:23:46.500 done i'm not sure i can ever go back to being the person i i i used to be because of all of the awful

01:23:51.740 things i've experienced and seen we've all felt that yeah and and these sorts of things if you go

01:23:58.060 through them truly resonate with you and and they do mean something there is good in this world to

01:24:03.200 fight for and and i certainly find it very hard to see sometimes but you do have to remind yourself

01:24:08.840 that it is out there and it's worth fighting for even if it does sometimes seem like you know the

01:24:13.900 darkness is winning you shouldn't lose hope and you should watch the lord of the rings i agree

01:24:20.460 excellent uh that was fun yeah do you want to go through your sure i went on a little bit there

01:24:26.020 that was the best actually i'm thinking of carrying on till four yeah yeah that was a great fly on the

01:24:32.620 wall for me actually i really enjoyed that ricky ollie says oh am i um oh no he's got a first comment 0.90

01:24:37.680 first uh sandy peterson is based um he's from when tabletop rpgs went all woke idiots also cooler 0.83

01:24:43.440 cthulhu is my favorite rpg it's vastly superior to modern dnd well that's good to know um oh and my

01:24:49.420 another favorite rpg traveler is made in swindon by mongoose publishing oh blimey there's some actual

01:24:54.980 industry going on in swindon um why don't you understand that if aragorn would be sophisticated

01:25:00.920 and better if he randomly beheaded some hobbits and did incest i i get that facetiousness from

01:25:07.580 george winds of winter is coming guys promise martin to nick fuentes is clear we need a world war to make

01:25:14.500 men if only to prevent god awful media game of thrones format existing ever again um i love that

01:25:22.040 while the normans gondor hide behind the tall walls the anglo-saxons bravely ride to death and ruin 1.00

01:25:27.340 they ride they go down the hill

01:25:31.020 that's random name says uh the way george rr martin structures his story means that

01:25:38.040 it has to have a happy ending with john snow taking his rightful place on the iron throne

01:25:42.860 but george rr martin won't ever do that because he's an obese leftoid with tds

01:25:47.880 i think also um he's going to set it up that someone else you know it's going to go similar

01:25:53.920 line to the the show isn't it but it part of the reason it's not satisfying is not only because it

01:25:59.460 was rushed and poorly done by the directors because they wanted to do a star wars film which they never

01:26:03.620 got to do brilliant um i also think that it goes against the theme of the show to have that sort of

01:26:10.860 ending i mean it would make sense if you know some of the main characters died not everyone lived

01:26:18.240 happily ever after jm denton uh you can judge a man by how many times he watch it watches the right

01:26:24.900 um ride of the row here in per year based well i've watched it five times this week so far

01:26:29.920 nice um englishmen love lord of the rings what um joke uh cheers from the geographical center of

01:26:36.700 the united states well thank you and um of course you can enjoy it as well um i'm not going to read

01:26:43.920 that but it is funny i'll give you that um central stones says gay hobbits and wizards says the mexican 0.90

01:26:52.720 uh that said something i'm not going to read out on the internet but um if you do googling you can

01:26:59.620 find out if you really care i wouldn't suggest googling it though because that's weird um sigil

01:27:05.200 stain says sorry luca but without a mustache your natural british pale and waxy complexion makes you

01:27:10.640 look undead the hairstyle completes the vampire look you're now the the resident vampire that used to

01:27:15.660 be me for a long time then i got the curtains and i was the resident 90s person i mean maybe if i give

01:27:21.180 it two years i can start hobbit maxing and i can i have it like rory but we'll see nice uh is there

01:27:27.960 any more uh lewis bainpool rolls off the tongue much better i've i've i've had lots of names uh

01:27:37.260 thrown but i've never had that one so that's yeah yeah um oph says lewis should reapply under different

01:27:45.300 name blackpool isn't diverse enough use lewis windrush generation pool terrible terrible 0.94

01:27:51.480 okay um all right john so sure um hassan piker and nick fuentes sound similar um in the books it's

01:28:01.440 much more tragic fed and dies not knowing eowyn is passed out next to him uh talking to mary and a

01:28:06.720 small moment aomer um true he neither understands a song of ice and fire or the lord of the rings

01:28:14.960 george rr martin will finish and that is my cope but lord of the rings is better text and i believe

01:28:20.740 george rr martin would agree that um a song of ice and fire does have art but it needs to be finished

01:28:26.720 yeah i mean i i didn't i feel like i was probably a bit harsher on game of friends than i needed to be

01:28:33.060 but at the same time it's not when you're comparing it to the lord of the rings it's hard

01:28:38.040 not to sound that way apparently kia starmer told the hobbits to not look back in anger after the

01:28:43.200 scouring of the shy great comment thank you gentle savage very good chris h says uh did nick even

01:28:49.360 watch season eight of game of friends it's hard to defend yes i know i agree um mark guidetti um he

01:28:57.280 bashed lord of the rings and got something from someone send him to the tower to not to be a thing 0.96

01:29:04.520 i can't say well really stitch me up here good thing i read ahead eh um why are you surprised the

01:29:13.320 home office is captured by oh we've read these okay okay perfect video comments i guess yes do we have

01:29:17.860 any samson we do very good let's have them then thank you cheers mate

01:29:29.580 as a long-standing fan of formula one instilled by my father's love of motor racing i was intrigued by

01:29:36.880 what the premier aerodynamicist of the sport would have to say for himself obviously this is an

01:29:40.820 autobiography so it delves into newy's personal life his quarrels and parents his relationships his

01:29:45.760 travel and professional struggles but it also is a fascinating insight into the world of motorsport

01:29:50.080 that doesn't exist anymore where someone can drag themselves up from first principles and luck as

01:29:54.600 well as hard work can define what the sport is now newy recognizes the fundamental changes in the sport and

01:30:00.160 how they've caused him to become less enamored of it than he used to be i loved formula one growing up

01:30:05.720 that was my favorite sport and uh i don't watch it anymore because how much they've butchered it

01:30:10.560 you know even spray painting net zero by 2030 on the pit lane is just it's too much that's too much

01:30:16.860 for me i was a huge schumacher fan and if you watch the sorry i know it's a curse netflix but uh if

01:30:23.800 you watch uh his documentary schumacher it is literally the zero to hero um and then obviously

01:30:30.920 the tragic horrible like accident that he had in like skiing but it's i i absolutely love that sport and

01:30:37.520 it's it's actually so blasphemy it's what they have done to it i've got a weird factoid for you

01:30:42.900 when i was a child i had a giant african land snail called michael schumacher

01:30:47.760 that's getting clipped sensational trivia bit of uh rare josh trivia there

01:30:55.160 on sunday the 12th i went to my local church and to my surprise they talked about charlie kirk and how

01:31:00.920 secularism has negatively impacted the western world and that it should be christianity impacting culture 1.00

01:31:04.800 not the other way around i've long since accepted that atheism is not a liberal value neutral belief

01:31:08.560 system even as intended a childhood friend of mine openly posted on twitter that marriages and

01:31:12.380 institutions should be done away with for reasons of secularism but this is the first time that i've

01:31:16.360 personally come across the church actively putting itself forward unapologetically all that to say

01:31:20.080 that even in small neighborhoods like mine we're doing this so we're winning lads

01:31:23.920 encouraging all right is that all the video coming sums no oh no all right hey carl yeah i heard about

01:31:32.820 what happened with uh your visa for australia it sucks because i was really looking forward to

01:31:38.840 meeting in person but oh well i'm still going to be at the conference so if there are any australian

01:31:45.800 lotus eaters who are planning on going by all means please go and i'll be there and you can grab a

01:31:51.000 couple of my books see you then what happened to his visa i didn't see it i don't know first i'm

01:31:58.240 hearing it i'm sorry you didn't use uh even the even samson's like what's going on samson's not

01:32:02.920 aware no idea well i just hope that you go there and enjoy the conference cooper yeah yeah it's a

01:32:08.320 shame you can't see carl yeah i'm not sure about the rest

01:32:10.560 oh i tell you right mushroom

01:32:24.000 that's really funny that face is absolutely cursed it's really head uh i don't have that haircut

01:32:49.020 anymore the curtains are gone but i love that it was it was funny it reminded me of jam that's what

01:32:55.320 it reminded me yeah yeah oh you've gotten you into that then do you like it i've watched the first

01:33:00.180 episode again and then haven't had a chance to watch it it gets even more crude and weird have you

01:33:06.000 watched that jam chris morris no so the same obviously writer is brass eye and four lines

01:33:11.800 yeah you can watch them all on youtube it's so funny it's right up my street the sort of surrealist

01:33:17.160 like l like lsd like dark it's like lsd dark humor that's my style 90s 90s like 2000s

01:33:25.520 makes me sound like a junkie now it's funny

01:33:28.720 i haven't watched that in ages scar pelosi great sort of uh reference there yeah

01:33:57.160 in my previous video i highlighted that the appeal to indigeneity i often see used by the native

01:34:05.280 english is often used against the colonial countries like australia by indigenous advocates

01:34:09.660 quite correctly the panel then highlighted other factors to push back against this argument

01:34:14.120 namely what the english culture has produced as well as the real politic of the right of conquest

01:34:19.460 i mentioned this to highlight that the appeal to indigeneity is insufficient when fighting

01:34:24.460 immigration and it needs to be backed up with an assertion of english cultural supremacy

01:34:29.040 hear hear yeah really good point i said as much uh i wrote an article about lenny henry's call for

01:34:35.620 reparations and i was basically like we just need to be unapologetically confident in our society

01:34:40.880 and say to people yes the west is the best get over it you know if you have a problem with that

01:34:47.740 we don't care our country's good and we're not going to give you free money

01:34:51.320 based every day we get reminded that the left are spiteful mutants that can't create anything

01:34:58.300 this is sad because i find creating things like this mech fun i can't imagine living a life where

01:35:06.420 i'm not working on something at least

01:35:08.900 it's actually super impressive it is very impressive i want to see them do five a side

01:35:16.440 football this is this guy's been doing that for a while isn't he sending in his mechs

01:35:21.380 like it looks like like he could literally recreate robot wars all over again i was just thinking that

01:35:27.380 like much beloved series in britain robot wars like so good i think america had it but it wasn't i've

01:35:33.900 watched some of the american ones and they're not as good as us for whatever reason i think it's

01:35:37.580 our sort of culture of of the the nerds in the shed making robots sergeant kill a lot was it and

01:35:44.000 uh so kill a lot yeah kill yeah oh my gosh sorry we're because we've uh run over on time ladies and 1.00

01:35:50.000 gentlemen i'm just going to draw your attention to one comment today which is the fact that

01:35:53.960 apparently there was a poll in the chat whilst the podcast was going on and you got to decide which

01:35:59.580 is the greater the lord of the rings or game of thrones and lord of the rings has won by 87 percent

01:36:05.780 well done chat many how many votes uh what we've got here uh 333 votes not bad um yeah so very good

01:36:14.120 very sensible um i love democracy yes and uh very sorry uh thank you for your toleration of my sniffles

01:36:21.420 and sneezes i didn't really notice yeah but my voice absolutely absolute trooper and uh i am

01:36:27.880 apparently looking quite vampiric today so uh more than that thank you for joining us ladies and gentlemen

01:36:33.900 and lewis once again thank you for coming in thank you and josh thank you for never leaving

01:36:37.720 um uh we will see you again uh tomorrow at 1 p.m so have a good day

01:36:43.720 tomorrow at 2 p.m so have a good day

01:37:02.260 you

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - October 21, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1278

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