The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1280

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1280 and it is Wednesday the 23rd of

00:00:07.520 October this 2025. I'm Dan and to forestall any commentary in the chat like we had in the office

00:00:14.920 all morning, yes I have been experimenting with hair dye. The reason is that I am very old. Discuss

00:00:20.920 amongst yourselves in the comments if you think it's a good idea or not. I'd be particularly

00:00:24.480 interested to hear from any vivacious young fillies. I'm also joined by Faraz. Hello hello and

00:00:32.320 special guest Josh. Hello I did put in the description not so special guest. Oh it was you was it? It was

00:00:38.260 yeah. I wondered if I needed to tell somebody off for that because I wrote special guest. You did.

00:00:43.820 Right. I'm back often enough I'm not that special. Right okay fair enough. So I didn't notice the

00:00:48.720 the hair dye at all until you pointed it out so. Well Harry had been talking about it quite a lot

00:00:53.320 and then he got Faraz on the case so I just thought you. I just thought it was a nice haircut. I didn't

00:00:58.720 say anything about it. No that's true you did too. You were very honest. You came and said you look

00:01:02.440 good. Yes. Which is I admire that sort of honesty. That is good. Yes. Oh what are we going to be

00:01:07.660 talking about? We're going to be talking about how the White House has been destroyed which may be of

00:01:11.500 news to some of you. Josh is going to tell us about the dumbest thing that has ever been created

00:01:16.320 and and you're going to tell us about how Ukraine is literally at war with us. Yes pretty much. Good.

00:01:22.300 Right. Start on the first one then shall we. So you may be interested to learn that the White House

00:01:29.320 has been destroyed and we have very credible sources to confirm that it has in fact

00:01:33.340 been destroyed which I will tell you about after mentioning the course. Have they recognized their

00:01:38.960 rightful place as part of the British Empire or are they still in rebellion? You know I believe the

00:01:44.320 country is still in rebellion. Oh unfortunately. Yes they need to be brought into compliance this is

00:01:47.900 true. Very quickly mention the course because I mean you'll see an ad for it I'm sure at some point

00:01:53.220 but you know it's very good and please buy it. On to yes this. So Gavin Newsom credible source of

00:02:02.020 course. You know he is the governor of California after all. Donald Trump doesn't want you to see

00:02:07.540 this picture he is literally destroying the White House. This isn't you know the win that

00:02:14.180 he thinks it is. I mean I see that and I'm just like well. I think if he was destroying Congress

00:02:20.100 that's even better. People would be on the streets celebrating. But the White House you know as the

00:02:26.360 seat of imperial power people might have some more natural affinity to it. It was a nice looking

00:02:30.880 building though wasn't it? I mean yeah. But if I saw this without any context whatsoever I presume

00:02:35.240 okay they're modernizing the building in some way. You know you want the presidential areas to be

00:02:42.060 as up-to-date as possible because you want there to be no technological or infrastructural

00:02:48.120 impediment to them doing their job. So it makes sense that they're going to remodel it eventually.

00:02:53.660 Of course it's really. He destroyed it you see. Literally destroyed it. I think being reasonable is

00:02:58.940 forbidden. Okay. It's not allowed. It's 2025. Please get with the program. I mean if I saw even Biden do

00:03:06.080 this I'd presume okay they're just updating the building. This is not a big deal. No he's literally

00:03:11.400 destroyed it. And look here we go. And Republican Representative Eric Swalwell he was the dude who

00:03:21.700 banged the Chinese by Fang Fang. I was wondering if that was him or the other one. Yeah and I think

00:03:26.160 I'm pretty sure it's this one. He clears up the literally and figuratively confusion that you might

00:03:32.600 get in this. He's literally and figuratively. So he's covered both options there. Donald Trump has

00:03:38.600 destroyed the White House. Figuratively and literally rather than like if he was going for effect it

00:03:44.440 should have been figuratively and literally. I agree for sort of the composition of the tweet it would

00:03:48.820 work better the other way around. Yes you're right actually. But the man is retarded so it's okay.

00:03:52.940 Yes. Senator Pocahontas. This is Trump's presidency in a single photo. Illegal destructive and not

00:04:03.620 helping you. Ron Filipkowski. Filipkowski. Filipkowski. Filipkowski. Filipkowski. You could be that. This is a

00:04:15.800 desecration and an abomination. First he posts an AI video of himself wearing a crown dumping shit on

00:04:22.200 the heads of American. Then he started. I didn't see that AI. Did you see the AI video? I didn't see

00:04:26.460 that but I would like to. It was a great video. Was it? He was dumping excrement on the heads of

00:04:32.720 some opposition guy. I can't remember his name. Was it Harry Sisson or somebody like that? Oh okay.

00:04:37.500 It wouldn't surprise me. Yes and it was being dropped from a fighter jet. So it was a bombing

00:04:45.340 run on the. He was using the Indian Air Force was he? Right. Then he starts tearing down parts of the

00:04:54.380 White House. Oh right. So that isn't very good. The real crowning one is this one from Will Stanser.

00:05:02.060 I don't know why but some random statue of Robert E. Lee being taken down after public debate

00:05:06.460 or the actual Congress passing a law changing the name of military bases control isn't the same

00:05:11.200 thing as Trump unilaterally demolishing the White House overnight you imbecile. Oh wow. So Trump is

00:05:18.160 unilaterally making changes to the president's house. Maybe he should have consulted all the other

00:05:21.960 presidents before he did this. Now for reasons I cannot explain just about every response to this

00:05:30.200 is this meme of do be like that Mr. I've no what does anyone have any idea what's going on here?

00:05:37.340 I don't know what this is all about. It's the internet being the internet I think. Right. I've never seen

00:05:41.900 this before now but I presume it's some sort of meme-y targeted campaign against him. Yes. Because

00:05:49.780 everyone knows he's a little bit annoying. I mean I quite like that. Wasn't he the guy who got

00:05:53.900 decimated by Grok? Yes. Wasn't he the one that was. Stunt still. Yes. I don't even I have no idea who

00:06:00.780 he is but I just I just like the fact that he's been memed into a blue. He's a bit like Kathy Newman

00:06:04.820 if you remember Kathy Newman. Of course. To this day she cannot post anything without somebody

00:06:08.540 everyone underneath just going so what you're saying is. You know which is very nice. So let's what is

00:06:17.680 actually being demolished. It was that bit. It was a very ugly part of it to be honest. A small

00:06:25.000 extension. I think it's like a carport or something like that. Also the the West Wing is relatively

00:06:31.380 recent edition as well. If you can add things you can also take them away and rebuild them right

00:06:37.140 I would presume. Oh there is actually a whole number of editions we will come to that. Okay. That is

00:06:43.900 there we go. So that's that's you see that little yellow bit there that doesn't that's that's going

00:06:48.420 to be where the ballroom is apparently. So I mean to me it seems reasonable. It's actually a good

00:06:54.960 idea isn't it to have a ballroom because you're you're a president you're hosting lots of important

00:06:59.060 people. Yes. You probably want to be able to throw presidential events and having something like

00:07:04.220 this is obvious particularly when you're the most powerful country in the world. Yes. You want to

00:07:08.360 project that power having a fancy ballroom is how you know. Well I mean he is the head of state

00:07:14.860 quite literally. I think more to the point it beats what Hillary Clinton did which is literally

00:07:19.660 trying to steal two hundred thousand dollars worth of furniture from the White House when she left.

00:07:24.760 You say try. Yes. Because there is no try with Hillary Clinton. No no no she she took two hundred

00:07:30.480 thousand dollars worth of furniture and gifts. They're like silverware and things like that. Silverware,

00:07:35.460 China. All kinds of things. Unscrewed the light bulbs no doubt. And then basically she had to give

00:07:43.040 some of it back or pay for some of it or what have you and I think she ended up only netting

00:07:48.700 seventy six sixty thousand dollars something like that. And then she went on to become you know worth

00:07:54.460 That's pretty good for a burglary though. It's not bad. Yeah. It's not bad. I mean as a sort of bit of

00:07:59.200 symbolism you couldn't do any worse than stealing things from the office you've been assigned to.

00:08:06.240 Yes. Yes. I don't think I've stolen much from here at all to be honest. No. One thing I found

00:08:12.120 interesting is actually the business end of this whole structure is over here in the west wing

00:08:16.980 with the oval guard. I don't know why I always assumed the oval the oval office was attached to

00:08:20.740 this bit but apparently it doesn't work like that. That's just that's just a whole load of bedrooms

00:08:24.440 in an entrance way. And then apparently the first lady's got an office over here which is as far

00:08:28.700 away as possible from the oval's office where men got stuff done. I did I did find this sort of

00:08:33.060 helpful map. So this middle bit is just the residence and it's you know it's quite quite

00:08:38.000 interesting this. There you go. The library being where Hunter Biden's cocaine presumably. Yes something

00:08:44.500 like that. Or allegedly Hunter Biden's cocaine was found. There we go. So presumably the master

00:08:50.420 bedroom is the one the president's in and then the Lincoln bedroom isn't that the guest room or

00:08:53.940 something. But there's actually quite a few bedrooms and there's another floor on top with

00:08:56.500 more bedrooms. I'll quickly do the you know the west wing. Here we go. So that this is

00:09:03.460 the fun bit. There you go. You've got the over. So I mean all of this is new anyway. Newish

00:09:07.800 anyway. So there you've got the over office and you know a few other bits. I do find it

00:09:12.400 interesting. I mean it's a real shortage of office space over here. So I mean so even quite

00:09:18.100 you know high ranking officials with a diplomatic rank of a four-star general get shoved into a

00:09:23.300 room cupboard. There's the executive building next door to the White House where a lot of

00:09:29.320 White House staff actually work. Yes. So a lot of people. Was it across the road or something?

00:09:34.800 Uh I think so. Right. I do find it interesting given the shortage of office space that the press

00:09:41.620 secretary gets quite a massive room actually. It's a very important position isn't it? Some might say

00:09:45.820 the most important if you have a good press secretary you don't need any other good people do you?

00:09:50.260 Yeah I'd somehow I just think that's wrong but you know what I agree with you in principle. Anyway

00:09:56.280 so the bit the bit we actually sort of want is is over here on the um the east wing. It's just got

00:10:02.040 some rooms which look from this format like they're not being used. Um maybe they're just

00:10:07.400 we've all got a room like that and how suddenly we just stack stuff up in um and then the first

00:10:13.180 lady's office and stuff and so they're going to add a bit on the front or whatever. So I don't think

00:10:17.380 that is actually um a a huge deal. Um let's uh see how it went when uh CBS tried to get an expert on

00:10:27.120 um to to to you know make it sound like this was some sort of war crime or something.

00:10:33.340 And there's always been this growing fascination about the White House and

00:10:36.760 and the details inside from the furniture to who dined there and this new ballroom to put this

00:10:43.120 into perspective is almost twice the size of the entire White House. When you heard about the

00:10:46.960 plans for this new addition in the east wing what did you think? I will be honest I wasn't that

00:10:50.880 surprised. I felt like okay it's finally happening and the size is interesting. I mean the White House

00:10:54.480 is truly on a human scale which I love. It really reflects America and how we um our leaders live

00:10:59.560 and the White House is the only home really that acts as a home an office and a museum that's open for

00:11:04.620 tours but it is on a human scale. So when you think about Buckingham Palace or Versailles they're so much

00:11:08.200 larger um but I do think it's something that our many administrations have been talking about. I know

00:11:12.320 for sure that the Clinton administration had really recommended to the Bush administration

00:11:14.860 that they consider putting some sort of permanent pavilion up because they really learned to have

00:11:18.360 the numbers of people that they wanted to to entertain. They were constantly having to do tents on

00:11:21.520 along and well that's interesting. So the Clintons recommended to the Bushes that they do exactly this

00:11:29.100 right because you needed this space. But uh I I think he's uh literally and figuratively

00:11:36.440 destroying the White House. Well I think that's much more important. Well I mean they I mean that

00:11:40.640 is interesting isn't it but but you know the Clintons said you know this should definitely be done

00:11:45.240 so let's check in on the Clintons. Oh here we go.

00:11:50.860 It's not his house it's your house and he's destroying it. No it's not your house Hillary because

00:11:54.920 you lost. It is his house. It is literally it is literally and figuratively his house not your house.

00:12:00.580 Um so. Short memory Clinton eh? Yes. There we go. That must be why she forgave Bill.

00:12:09.100 Uh yes. Yes perhaps. Um and actually the the the White House has received quite a lot of work. So

00:12:16.400 I mean during the war it was the whole inside was was gutted because apparently they built the whole

00:12:21.120 thing on sand. Right. Uh and it and it's not great to um to build big things on sand apparently.

00:12:28.460 There's a metaphor there isn't there. Yes. So I mean all of DC is literally in a swamp.

00:12:34.700 Yes. So DC is literally built on a swamp. It's terrible. So when Trump said he was going to drain

00:12:43.420 the swamp everyone presumed he meant combat corruption but he actually means shore up that

00:12:48.120 infrastructure. Yeah it's quite possible. Yeah so they had to strip it out apart from the outer shell

00:12:53.400 of the of that residence bit and then you know putting steel frames and proper proper you know

00:12:58.380 what they call foundations and stuff. Um construction experts can let us know in the comments. So yeah

00:13:05.000 there we are. Bit of bit of foundation so the the bloody thing doesn't sink. Um so yes there's been

00:13:10.340 quite a lot of you know major additions that have come along and I wanted to run through them just

00:13:14.340 just show how how ridiculous it is. And uh you'll catch the theme of this quick enough. So

00:13:20.360 so Jefferson um he added colonnades and landscaping. Right and and that makes sense because he himself

00:13:27.480 was an architect. Um Roosevelt added the west wing which makes sense because he was a bureaucrat.

00:13:32.800 Um Taft added the oval office which does make sense because he was an administrator.

00:13:38.000 Um FDR added a pool which does make sense because he was in a wheelchair and he needed it for the

00:13:43.360 physical therapy stuff. Um Truman added a balcony which makes perfect sense because he's a midwestern

00:13:49.640 man and of course they midwestern men love they love standing on their balcony. Uh Nixon added a

00:13:54.220 press room which makes sense because he's a media conscious president. Uh Carter added solar panels

00:14:00.740 which makes sense because he's an environmentalist. Um Reagan added a theatre which makes sense because

00:14:06.120 he's a Hollywood actor. Um you you get the flow of this don't you? You do the next one Josh because

00:14:11.240 I feel like I've been talking too long. Um hang on I've got to find it first. Um I'll read it out.

00:14:18.680 I've got it. I've got it. I've got it. Okay um Obama added a basketball court basketball court because

00:14:24.680 uh he he's a black guy. That's what it says here in Dan's list. Um well you didn't have to read it

00:14:31.240 you racist. Um it is true. Well you might also be true. Yes um and um uh I I I help you out the next

00:14:38.740 one um for as you can do this one um Biden added an auto pen desk. Uh what what why did he do that?

00:14:45.360 Uh because he was the auto pen president and his portrait in the White House is represented by the

00:14:52.220 auto pen. Yes. Was he also a fraud and a forger and a forger? Yes. Yes. Yes uh I would just say

00:14:58.320 because he's senile but yeah all of those make sense and uh Trump is is adding a ballroom uh big

00:15:04.700 project because uh and that makes sense to me because he is a uh developer. Um right BBC hot on

00:15:12.160 the case. They ask the question is Trump allowed to demolish part of the White House to build a

00:15:17.480 ballroom? Um do we have any constitutional experts on the panel? Is the president of the United States

00:15:24.120 allowed to make changes to his own house? Yes. I can't see how it would not be allowed. I don't

00:15:30.320 understand. Yes well that's good enough for me so we won't have to watch the BBC verify video. Thank

00:15:33.920 you. Yeah if every single president can make an addition one can presume yes one can demolish a

00:15:39.780 small part of it and build something else. Yes quite right quite right so so that that answer was good

00:15:44.480 enough for me. Um oh where's um oh no that I'll tell you what what what what is that what is that

00:15:52.260 I'll give you a clue let's go all the way back to uh where we started where where do we start

00:15:58.400 we started with Gavin Newsom. Yes. Governor of California uh Trump doesn't he's literally

00:16:03.560 destroying the White House. Now let's go back to the uh the picture I I just put up if I can

00:16:08.060 find it again. That is um. That seems like a photo from the 70s or 80s. No that that is the capital

00:16:15.260 um annex replacement project. Right. In um in California. Yeah I thought it looked like California.

00:16:22.040 Yeah. And you say it's an old photo. Literally Gavin Newsom's residence. Yes it's that was taken in

00:16:27.860 2021. Ah. Uh and involved tearing down uh the 1950 annex behind the uh the domed capital building

00:16:35.640 bit you see there and being replaced with new modern offices uh visitor complex and um an area to house

00:16:42.960 the governor. Um interesting. Now the difference is is Trump's project is 250 million

00:16:51.180 of privately raised money. Right. This project that you see before you here is 1.1 billion of

00:16:58.040 taxpayers money. 1.1 billion. Yes. What that's seriously? Yes. An extraordinary amount of money.

00:17:05.000 Well if he's gonna if he's gonna be staying there building. Presumably Newsom wants it to be

00:17:08.640 absolute pucker. Well presumably he also wants to pass some money to his friends. I mean the extent of

00:17:13.900 corruption. Oh yes. Yes. Is legendary. Everything they do in California enriches Gavin Newsom's friends.

00:17:19.820 I'm sure there is contracts to be awarded left right incentives. Isn't he also related to Pelosi

00:17:24.460 somehow? Isn't he? Aren't Newsom and Pelosi related? Yes they're related. I didn't know that.

00:17:28.240 They're related. You try and figure it out. Yes. Yes. I'm relatively sure that uh I think it's

00:17:34.600 Newsom who's related to Pelosi. I just find it interesting. Second cousin twice removed from

00:17:39.740 musician Joanna Newsom. There you go. And uh Aunt Barbara Newsom and married to Ron Pelosi.

00:17:45.740 There we go. Um. Right. Okay. Slightly lose connection but um. Very distant. Somebody's

00:17:52.080 putting a poll in the uh in the chat. We ignore that for now. Well um. Actually the plans for

00:17:58.980 the White House have been quite grand. So this is from this is from 1912 and this was a proposal

00:18:03.720 to turn the White House into the into the White Palace. Aha. I think they should have gone with it

00:18:10.240 to be honest. It looks quite cool doesn't it? It looks really nice. It looks very uh 19th century

00:18:14.820 which is only a positive. Like that little pavilion at the front there reminds me a little bit of

00:18:19.680 uh almost like some of the the great big greenhouses you get in London when they built

00:18:25.320 with the Victorians. Very nice. This is this is more fitting for the you know the seat of

00:18:31.340 the head of state of a country like America. Something like this sort of palace. So they really

00:18:36.120 should have done it. Um. And if if they can't do that now and if you if you don't like the glass

00:18:41.320 thing at the front and you want to make some changes Trump ought to really just

00:18:44.260 he ought to just go for it. Why not? Crazy. Why not? Go big or go home. But but my point here

00:18:51.900 essentially is that the reason I bring this up as an example

00:18:54.940 is that it's not it the way it works is not that you do something outrageous and then people get

00:19:03.220 outraged. Yes. The point is there is a fixed and constant flow of outrage. Yes. And irrespective

00:19:09.440 of what you do if you do something really really outrageous there's still going to be that fixed

00:19:13.800 amount of outrage. If you do if you do nothing at all or just quite mundane things like get a bit of

00:19:19.420 building work done. Right. You're still going to get that that same flow fixed amount of outrage.

00:19:25.980 They they've decided that they want to lose it every time Trump does anything.

00:19:31.000 Mm hmm. And that decision has been made and established. Yes. And it doesn't really matter

00:19:36.640 what it is that Trump does or doesn't do. They're still going to lose it in equal. They're still

00:19:43.060 equally going to lose it even when he does something good or bad. Yes. The quality of the topic is uh is

00:19:50.420 of absolutely no relevance. Yes. And and this and this kind of really is my key point. If you're going

00:19:56.400 to get the outrage anyway and and this performative you know uh screeching outrage for doing something

00:20:03.600 mundane you might as well spend all of your time doing the most radical things possible. Yeah. I mean

00:20:09.120 just lining up and shooting all of the antifa you know well and the bad judges and you know just just

00:20:13.980 just do all of it. Look they um now the whole Trump team is on blue sky. Mm hmm. And all they're doing

00:20:21.500 on blue sky is is literally shit posting. Yes. With the explicit objective of driving the left more

00:20:28.000 insane. Mm hmm. And if you look at how they're replying to journalists I mean one journalist asked a

00:20:33.740 question about one thing or the other and the reply was your mom. Yeah. Very good. It was you know uh he oh he

00:20:43.940 asked who suggested Budapest. Are you aware that in 1994 this and that happened in Budapest and that's a

00:20:49.980 great betrayal and the answer was your mom did and then a second press officer replies with your mom. Very

00:20:56.420 good. And but this is actually bad because the political discourse is completely collapsed. Well

00:21:04.720 it is blue sky though nobody takes it seriously. No no no this was like a sort of person like a press

00:21:09.000 conference. Genuine journalist sending an email to the appropriate offices blah blah blah rather than

00:21:15.700 right a shit post on blue sky. Oh right. Then they posted it on social media just to sort of emphasize

00:21:21.440 the point. Right. But political dialogue in the United States does not exist between the two

00:21:27.680 parties. No. It's it's one side is going to win. It always used to be the left hated us and then we

00:21:33.840 sucked up to them. Yes. But but Trump has just changed it. It's like no we hate them too. Yes. Let's

00:21:38.640 just own it. Well the thing is criticism is like currency isn't it? If you inflate it it becomes

00:21:43.400 increasingly worthless. Correct. Correct. Yes. I also wanted to talk about the other reason I really

00:21:48.440 like this why I really really like it and and I'm going to ask um Eric Cartman to explain it for me.

00:21:56.200 Before that I am talking about the oldest threat to America. The greatest enemy America has ever known.

00:22:03.880 You can't possibly mean.

00:22:05.240 So so so so what I like could have gone in so many ways. So so so what I like about this most

00:22:16.000 is that it is reminding everybody of this you know first Trump's mob attack the capital for the first

00:22:22.140 time since 1812. Well I mean I mean it wasn't actually Trump's mob that attacked in 1812. I mean

00:22:31.240 I'm sure that I'm Canadian weren't they? Yes. Well no they were

00:22:35.240 they were us. Oh yes. Yes. Under the British Empire. You're not Canadian. Yes. And now Trump is doing

00:22:40.900 more damage to the White House than the British did in 1814. So um yes um any opportunity to remind

00:22:48.300 the Americans um that the the British and the Americans have only ever gone to war once and we

00:22:54.280 won it and we burnt down your White House that is that for me is a good day. So thank you President

00:22:59.680 Trump for all your good works. I uh yeah I was thinking more along the lines of how to bring them

00:23:07.240 back into the Empire as opposed to um oh yes also they should do that. Well one of two things should

00:23:15.520 happen uh one they should end this silly independence thing or two we should join them

00:23:20.380 as a 51st state. I don't mind which right as long as we reunite the Anglosphere.

00:23:25.260 Either option is fine to me. I've I've been talking about reuniting the Anglosphere for a decade and I

00:23:29.820 have friends who can testify. And and by the way if they do rejoin um the British Empire I'd be

00:23:35.220 perfectly content with them supplying Baron Trump as a king. That would be that would also be an

00:23:38.800 acceptable outcome. I mean we could get Australia involved. We could get India sorry Canada involved.

00:23:43.640 Yes. I mean uh Canada would need sort of flushing out first but then he can come back. We can

00:23:49.600 introduce some infrastructure it'll be fine. Yes. Right. The use of flushing there was simply artistic.

00:23:54.880 Oh I'm supposed to do. You're supposed to do the comments. I'm saying I'm dumb in the chat. I bet

00:24:01.140 it's an American that pristine or whatever it is. I've got my eyes on you. Right um oh yes we have

00:24:06.820 got comments. Uh Chris says I haven't paid any attention to the cue tards in a long while but I

00:24:12.600 know based on this they will be posting something about secret tunnels and the plan. Yes you've got

00:24:17.660 you've got it you've got it when the when you're doing the when you're doing the foundations you've got

00:24:21.400 a check for Yiddish coming out of the floor haven't you. So um Ian Thomas the Clintons stole the W

00:24:26.980 key from the keyboard. Yes I did as well. This is actually true. Yes. They took the W from all of the

00:24:31.920 keyboards just to mess with George W Bush. It was yes inspired. That was fun. I thought that was

00:24:38.120 genuinely funny. Objectively that's funny. The left wasn't Obama's people took it not the

00:24:44.140 Clinton's. No no no it was the it was Clinton then Bush then Obama. Uh yes no. Meaning that it

00:24:50.560 must have been the Clintons. Okay yeah yeah fine. Uh George Lloyd uh says uh perhaps an all glass

00:24:56.660 White House would be great for the government transparency. Yes that'd be interesting. I mean

00:25:00.320 especially if Bill Clinton gets back in again. Um and and and magic says the east wing was built

00:25:07.300 after a division to the diversion diversion to the mask the construction of the presidential

00:25:12.800 emergency operations uh center bunker built beneath it in 14 as a 1942 uh which will remain and the

00:25:20.860 hapsification says um owl zut has become a meme uh and taken down on low foots of his own. That that

00:25:27.480 that guy must have been owl zut then. Um yeah and somebody said I like this somebody says uh Britannia

00:25:32.720 rules the waves. Yes. Very good.

00:25:35.580 Okay I think I've finally found the dumbest thing ever created and I know there's been a lot of

00:25:44.440 competition over the years and I think that this well might be it. So this is a map of the world's

00:25:49.460 indigenous peoples designed by um I'm going to butch this but I don't care because she doesn't

00:25:54.300 deserve respect uh Babna Banerjee I think um Babna Banerjee if you say that three times in front of a

00:26:00.920 mirror who knows what comes up. Um and published by the visual capitalist whose graphics I've actually

00:26:06.600 used before and have sometimes been okay um and it was based on data from the international work

00:26:11.560 group of indigenous affairs. What is this one of those IQ maps or something? Uh no um you you might

00:26:17.440 be uh remiss to believe that but with China having the darkest color here but also may I remind you

00:26:23.960 India is also a similar color and that can't be true. Um but anyway um yes it's just one map that's

00:26:32.560 that's true but this represents the prevailing view of indigeneity that many people have been trying to

00:26:39.260 propagate and I think that this view that some people are more worthy of being being considered

00:26:45.040 indigenous than others is actually quite politically pernicious and actually a very important thing to

00:26:50.340 nail down and so although I'm talking about the map I'm talking about this broader thing as well

00:26:55.060 which is actually very very important because of course if you're not considered indigenous it's

00:26:59.800 easier to disenfranchise you in your own country. But it is I mean superficially it seems to make sense

00:27:05.600 I mean yes there are indigenous people all over the place the only question I've got is what's going

00:27:09.760 on with Europe there? We will get to that don't worry so um my thingy doesn't work. Oh sorry. Would you like to um

00:27:18.040 yeah you can do a little thing of my box? Thank you. I thought you'd never ask. Here we are here's a bit

00:27:24.080 more of a zoomed in view so we can see it a little bit better. So you might notice at the top uh left

00:27:29.080 there it mentions that indigenous peoples has no official definition by the UN and yet it is using

00:27:35.680 um data from organizations like the UN to do this and so it doesn't really make sense.

00:27:44.040 Modern understanding of traits. They're treating it oh sorry go ahead. Sorry modern understanding of traits

00:27:47.920 including self-identification. I mean that sort of settles it right? Yes. I'm indigenous to Britain

00:27:54.580 and South Africa. I've decided I self-identify as indigenous. I think it's within how that each

00:28:02.660 country deals with it internally so there's no standardized thing so each nation might have a

00:28:07.880 different policy um so what this map actually is showing is ethnic minorities because of course

00:28:14.560 China the Han Chinese ethnic majorities uh no ethnic minorities okay like look at China it's not a

00:28:22.220 population of 125 million of course because the Han Chinese are 1.4 billion people and are

00:28:28.120 indigenous to parts of China yet they list their 125 million which is the number of minorities in

00:28:35.160 in China and of course they're conflating the categories of these indigenous minorities as

00:28:40.860 well they could be colonized indigenous peoples like um so you have to be indigenous and a minority

00:28:47.920 at the same time to go on the map. It seems like it even though of course you don't you can also be

00:28:52.680 an indigenous majority but funnily enough you know countries like Poland um which is 97% ethnic

00:29:00.040 Polish and they have ancestry in that area that stretches thousands of years uh is not mentioned

00:29:05.680 it's funny that isn't it because um actually at the bottom of this graphic it has uh countries with

00:29:11.640 the largest share of indigenous peoples and it's got Greenland well surely Poland should be higher

00:29:16.080 than that because it's like 97% but are there actually indigenous people in Greenland?

00:29:21.520 um apparently are Germans not but it's not Germany apparently not I mean British people are always

00:29:28.620 told that their ancestors came from Germany somehow uh just Europe it's just not a problem even

00:29:34.960 even in Anatolia the Greeks there um are not acknowledged as an indigenous minority um to the

00:29:42.340 Turkish invaders but there are also other groups here there are tribal groups like the North African

00:29:47.200 Berbers you can see here North Africa um and ethno-linguistic minorities as well it mentions um

00:29:53.080 I think it mentions the Basques and the like um which of course are native but they're just a minority

00:29:59.560 who are the 300,000 indigenous in Israel? I would imagine that might be the Palestinians I don't know

00:30:06.400 there's much more than 300,000 I don't know how how do that one work out? Why does India only have

00:30:13.340 104 million indigenous people? I don't understand either it makes no sense does it like the more

00:30:19.740 you look at this the more it is insane um like Israel for example like it's not the Israelis and

00:30:27.860 it's not the Palestinians that are being represented there it's not the Sumerians who have a very strong

00:30:32.620 claim uh not this is not the Sumerians the Samaritans I mean um but do do not number 300,000

00:30:39.560 the number maybe is it possible there's 300,000 Romans still in Israel? Well they should make

00:30:45.740 contact because then I'll sort of go and join the crusade but right I'm not aware but um many people

00:30:52.560 have pointed out uh of Aria and Stelios here um that Europeans must have descended from the heavens

00:30:58.240 apparently um which like the elves in Lord of the Rings they just they just come from over the seas

00:31:03.880 the immortal lands and uh Harry replied exactly what I wanted to but shortly before I posted it

00:31:09.980 this but unironically yes um and uh let's go back to the map shall we and and look at what it says

00:31:17.480 about Europe because uh it's it's a little bit silly I'll zoom in a bit here so it talks about the

00:31:22.720 Sami of Finland and they arrived in Scandinavia from the east starting around 500 BC it's worth mentioning

00:31:29.760 that the ancestors of Scandinavians began settling around there 12,000 years ago following the end

00:31:34.740 of the last ice age so it actually they're sort of colonizers aren't they by this aren't the Celts

00:31:41.400 older than 500 BC um aren't the Celtic peoples older the Germanic peoples that went to colonize

00:31:49.060 Scandinavia as well much older they don't get a mention nope it's funny that isn't it um the Inuit in

00:31:57.340 Greenland arrived 300 years after Europeans as well they mentioned Greenland there uh Greenland's

00:32:02.920 total inhabitants 89% are the Greenland Inuit mostly referred to as Kalalut is being non-white

00:32:09.820 a prerequisite to being indigenous I think you might be onto something here and don't worry I'll reveal

00:32:16.180 who's behind all of this sort of stuff the data and the construction of this sort of thing and it'll

00:32:20.820 all make sense I would like other people behind it counted amongst those 300,000 no right

00:32:26.360 they're counted amongst uh the 104.0 million or at least the nation that represents it but I'll get

00:32:33.440 to that don't worry so there's also yes no mention of the Greek minority in Turkey as I mentioned before

00:32:39.980 they also um seem to focus on people here who've had some form of colonial rule

00:32:45.220 um yet they mention the Basque and the Crimean Tatars which doesn't really fit with this

00:32:50.380 they're just minorities in an ethnic majority area sure but that doesn't make any sense

00:32:57.540 aren't the Crimean Tatars descended from the Mongols I think so yeah so that they're actual

00:33:04.180 invaders but they're indigenous apparently so I didn't realize Mongolia was so close

00:33:10.460 I'm losing my mind here I don't understand it's very confusing this it's almost like it doesn't

00:33:15.200 make any sense but yes but let's go to um Asia and Australia shall we oh that's a good idea

00:33:20.800 because uh this I think is actually the most insane part of the map if you know your history

00:33:25.920 so one thing that I immediately noticed is the segregation of Papua New Guinea there

00:33:32.260 so one part is indigenous and one part is not the part that is indigenous is the part that was

00:33:37.860 colonized by Indonesia but the part that hasn't been colonized and is its own independent nation

00:33:43.480 is not indigenous and these are of course tribes that still use bow and arrows to this day um

00:33:50.560 so um here is um I think there should be another link there Samson but anyway here's the Indonesian

00:33:58.120 military um and uh they're a modern military yes they've taken West Papua um it was formerly uh Dutch

00:34:06.780 of course a Dutch colony and it's granted to Indonesia which was also a Dutch colony in 1962

00:34:11.400 um it'll be this one I've got there Samson um and there's been um multiple attempts to basically

00:34:19.440 ethnically replace the Papuans and so the fact that they're recognizing the Indonesian side as

00:34:25.860 indigenous and not the Papuan is antithetical to their own objectives here um and of here we are

00:34:32.440 so according to this map um these people are indigenous right um but the people on the right

00:34:40.620 are not why are they wearing potatoes on their willies I don't know I suppose when you're in a

00:34:47.340 jungle and there's lots of things that are bitey and lots of sharp plants it might be good to have a

00:34:52.580 bit of protection yeah but rather going to the effort of maybe they're carved and rather than

00:35:00.080 going to the effort of carving a bit of antler which must have taken bloody days to protect your

00:35:05.400 Johnson why not invest that time in just making clothes it's very hot though I suppose also I feel

00:35:12.360 like uh there's a little bit of um you know exaggeration going on I don't think they need all of

00:35:17.780 that do they well but they're just making themselves look silly to be honest you think

00:35:23.780 they look a little bit silly well yeah I agree I think my opinion is that they look very foolish

00:35:29.140 indeed you're not wrong but anyway um thanks for getting that up Samson um so here's the modern

00:35:35.640 Indonesian military and let's have a look at the the Papuan rebels uh that are fighting the

00:35:41.840 Indonesians you can see sure they've got some pretty fancy guns but also there's some proper tribes

00:35:47.580 people with bows and arrows like well and also they've captured that poor white chap yeah they

00:35:52.380 killed him so they're not good people either by the way aren't they famous for among other things

00:35:58.060 cannibalism and yes the Papua some Papua New Guinean tribes do eat people yes yes they they are

00:36:04.620 some of the worst people in the world mm-hmm and so uh there are conflicts in the world where there

00:36:09.500 are no good people and bad people just bad people there was one good person he got eaten

00:36:13.580 yeah I don't know whether they ate him but they definitely killed him it's horrible he was

00:36:17.520 their justification was that he was uh flying a helicopter um ferrying people around and because

00:36:26.380 it was an active war zone they're like this is a war zone therefore you must be a spy and we're

00:36:29.960 going to kill you I I think they're I think their justification is the same as the people who made

00:36:34.240 the map I would say so yes yeah um but of course the the divide is very arbitrary there are lots of

00:36:41.420 different um language groups here and ethnicities and tribes and so just having a straight line from

00:36:46.620 the middle doesn't make sense um and is missing the history of the area um we can also go back to

00:36:52.240 this map and look at Australia and New Zealand so uh the Maori ancestors arrived in New Zealand from

00:36:57.460 East Polynesia between 1320 and 1350 so of course long after many Europeans had been in their lands for

00:37:05.000 thousands of years um as well as many Middle Eastern countries there as well like the Egyptians

00:37:09.560 uh apparently are not indigenous for some reason also if you're from Madagascar no apparently not

00:37:16.240 also is that um Somalia they're not indigenous for some reason who knows so I I mean the the Hindu

00:37:23.800 angle suggests that they decided to treat the Muslims all as invaders everywhere yes which might

00:37:31.040 be a little bit of an oversimplification because a lot of them are actually converts from whatever

00:37:37.900 they were before also Saudi Arabia you know I don't think Saudi Arabia has changed that much in

00:37:44.220 in thousands of years ethnically speaking one of the least changed places in the world yeah exactly

00:37:49.460 so it's very silly arguably the gulf is the least demographically changed place in the world in the

00:37:55.720 middle ages did their princes not marry European girls you're confusing them with the Turks ah right

00:38:01.420 so Australia um did not exist as a nation until Britain colonized it of course the aboriginals were

00:38:07.480 still living in the stone age and so um Australia has been entirely created by people who migrated there

00:38:13.580 of European stock um of course you've got some migration from other parts of the world these days

00:38:18.880 um but here's a graphic of what Australia used to look like under aboriginal rule um these were all

00:38:25.540 the different nations um I I think it's fair to say that Australia was built by European settlers

00:38:32.220 because this is this is not modern Australia is it not in any way and I mean you're talking about

00:38:38.040 people who were literally living in the stone age exactly um it's ridiculous they have a political

00:38:44.420 claim that they can't even articulate it's just weird and also it's sort of a strange thing to

00:38:49.420 describe aboriginal Australians um as Australians because as we can see here they had separate

00:38:56.560 tribes and Australia is an invention of the the evil white man is it not as a concept because this is

00:39:02.060 their um original tribal areas right so to call them Australian in the first place is is strange I

00:39:08.560 didn't realize it was so I just thought there was just like one lot and they wandered around and stuff

00:39:12.760 I didn't realize they had their little nations so so the only way they could have got to that

00:39:16.320 nations is a very strong you're you're thinking tribes not nation tribes but the only way they

00:39:20.960 could have got to that point by having these very defined identifiable territories is by incessant

00:39:27.160 border warfare yes that's what happened right as did with the Native Americans it's also with

00:39:33.800 Papua New Guinea which was still ongoing yes of course so they were killing each other quite commonly

00:39:40.200 then yes right um there were reports of people having large scars all over their body and things

00:39:46.500 like that and they used to ritualistically scar each other on purpose I never remembered learning

00:39:50.900 about that at school that is interesting so it's also um just missing the nuance so here is

00:39:57.440 an ethnic Tasmanian you may notice they look similar to someone from another part of the world

00:40:02.960 here is an ethnic um aboriginal you can see a difference in the hair in particular can't you

00:40:09.020 I could I could have sworn I saw that second guy when I was walking through Swindon earlier

00:40:12.680 I think he might be about to this day he's got a long life that fella um but they look a little

00:40:19.320 bit different don't they yeah because they're different ethnicities but according to this map

00:40:23.060 they're all the same uh there's no nuance here but anyway back to the map let's talk about China

00:40:28.220 shall we uh they present it as some sort of multi-ethnic success story here they say uh China

00:40:35.260 recognizes 55 ethnic nationalities in addition to the Han Chinese majority who form 92 percent of

00:40:41.040 their population which is true they also constitute the largest ethnic group in the world so um this is

00:40:48.900 uh sort of skirting over something that the Han Chinese are from a very specific area of China

00:40:54.320 and the borders of modern day China are not the borders of China before and of course it doesn't

00:40:59.980 necessarily look at that part although it does talk about um the ethnic minorities uh you can

00:41:05.720 talk about the suppression of the Uyghur Muslims um in the uh I suppose it would be the west

00:41:11.640 province in the exactly yeah and um here's uh all the different um peoples here unified under the

00:41:20.760 Chinese banner but what it ultimately is is a dictatorship by the Han Chinese isn't it

00:41:25.600 where did the Han start off are they the red bits I'll show you that in a second um so of course

00:41:31.160 Tibet is a great example of where um they've subsumed territory and they're interfering in it

00:41:37.040 in a way that it's undermining their ethnic minorities right to be completely fair

00:41:41.520 modern Chinese rule is much better than traditional Buddhist rule

00:41:46.340 the Chinese have got their act together to be completely fair

00:41:50.660 I must say I once had a look at Chinese history and decided I'd want to stop looking because it

00:41:55.800 is utterly horrendous yes speaking of which uh here's uh the free kingdoms period of China yes

00:42:03.580 and you can see that it does not occupy all of modern day China but you can also see that these are

00:42:09.340 these are various warlords I know this period of history very well um but you can see that even in

00:42:15.760 ancient times they're slowly conquering both each other and surrounding areas as well by by the means

00:42:22.600 of brutal butchery oh yeah it was one of the most violent periods in Chinese history like it was warlords

00:42:28.900 fighting each other endlessly um and you in you can slowly see them expanding like you can see this

00:42:36.280 young new there they're basically um the the sort of mongols or sort of horse archer nomad people

00:42:44.860 oh and the green bit the hand they're the ones who basically won it all in the end well uh lubei who

00:42:51.360 was leading the uh the shuhan was actually up in the the northeast in the more hannic areas and he

00:42:58.580 migrated down there in a sort of colonial expansion but in in the uh novels and in the history as well

00:43:05.300 um they expand south to the nanman uh areas which are basically south which is a different ethnicity

00:43:12.320 yeah they they got taken over spoiling a an excellent book here hang on how can the hand

00:43:17.760 have taken over all the china they lost that bit because that they still called themselves the han

00:43:22.240 people but it was the the jinn empire ah right because they they're still the han people to this

00:43:27.780 day right okay so back to the map again uh let's have a look at middle east africa and the americas so

00:43:33.700 i think the americas is probably one of the fairer ones here they're saying you know there were

00:43:38.440 there were native americans there and you had natives before the spanish went to mexico and

00:43:43.480 south america however i think brazil's a bit of a conflation because there are lots of different

00:43:48.980 peoples there um i mean it's a lot more diverse dare i say than they're presenting it and indigenous just

00:43:55.700 means who's politically useful to us right yes um and then we can also look at africa and of course

00:44:01.780 um the bantu expansion interesting that where the bantu expansion started in uh west africa they're

00:44:08.920 not indigenous but this is where they migrated and colonized the rest so they've got all of africa here

00:44:15.580 um you know particularly these parts still being colonized by bantus today in south africa they've got

00:44:21.040 their own uh native ethnicities i mean if anyone's going to pay reparations it really should be the bantu

00:44:26.480 i know um that's what i facetiously pointed out and you cannot believe the number of africans who

00:44:32.180 are calling me like pink skin and pig skin and like and i was just like listen i'm doing this to

00:44:36.800 point out the absurdity of calling for reparations in britain i don't actually care what you do

00:44:40.760 do what you want um so any last thoughts about this map before i reveal who's behind it

00:44:48.720 well i just think you know the bollocks to be honest it is yeah of course it is what about uh

00:44:52.640 the middle east for us i mean they don't count anybody in lebanon as indigenous which is kind

00:44:58.160 of weird because lebanon is mentioned in the bible probably more than any other country maybe

00:45:05.360 comparable to egypt uh nobody else is mentioned more frequently than lebanon and the lebanese have

00:45:13.500 been there forever and that's who they are maybe maybe they're just too light-skinned or something

00:45:17.960 i don't i don't know what it is i don't understand what's what's the grievance here uh syria and iraq

00:45:22.900 are mentioned there i have no idea what they're thinking but it's been a like damascus is probably

00:45:27.640 one of the oldest inhabited cities in the world probably the oldest still inhabited city in the

00:45:31.660 world so the idea that it's all non-native is a bit it misunderstands how islamic expansion

00:45:38.840 it's it misunderstands islamic expansion fundamentally um and the whole story there is just a

00:45:46.120 series of absurdities i mean the sudanese are they indigenous aren't they indigenous i don't know and

00:45:51.680 i don't care but sudan literally means the land of the blacks like it's supposed to be sudanistan

00:45:57.480 it means arabic it's split from sudan to um south sudan along ethnic lines as well yes very much so

00:46:05.600 or like slightly yes to to a large extent um none of this seems to make any sense i mean

00:46:14.720 saudi arabia so the western part of saudi arabia is very ethnically mixed because everybody from the

00:46:20.140 muslim world sort of had people go to hajj and stay but the center of saudi arabia is very very

00:46:25.940 indigenous uh the east is also slightly mixed with some persians and indians and thrown into it

00:46:32.640 this whole thing is just very very strange also are the the afghanis not um indigenous there also

00:46:41.840 iran the persians mentioned by the ancient greeks even before the bible was written there you go

00:46:47.320 not indigenous to iran the whole thing is just absurdity on absurdity of course lots of african

00:46:55.520 nations there um not apparently native that's interesting i guess we don't need to feel bad about uh

00:47:02.000 you know the slave trade and colonialism because they're invaders as well it turns out well that's

00:47:07.040 nice yeah like they mentioned some parts um of nigeria which is and niger um very strange um

00:47:18.800 well i i guess i am keen to find out who's behind it then okay so

00:47:23.600 here is the visual capitalist who published it this was all the way back in march of 2023 but it's

00:47:32.240 only just started circulating now and everyone was getting angry at it um so apparently it was by

00:47:38.800 planet anomaly which uh is interesting i i'm not entirely sure about that who counts as a planet

00:47:46.000 anomaly i don't know um oh wait it's is this person is this person again so under a pseudonym uh

00:47:56.080 apparently but uh let's have a look at who she is shall we uh here she is uh i think she might be

00:48:03.840 from the indian subcontinent as there's a little bit of a guess so the indian subcontinent is a

00:48:09.760 planetary anomaly apparently so right um according to her don't you and uh the thing that i found

00:48:18.640 interesting about this was this part of what i cover i seek out underrepresented voices and emerging

00:48:24.240 perspectives on the climate crisis with a particular focus on public health migration and displacement and

00:48:30.480 environmental justice and i found something else on inside climate news uh she is based in stanford

00:48:38.960 california it's all coming together hang on so this entire thing is is that meme let me tell

00:48:46.880 you about your country and why it includes me yes yes it is oh i i get it now yes i get it now

00:48:55.200 and uh it was based on data from this organization the international work group for indigenous affairs

00:49:01.520 which is uh as it describes it's an ngo that you bet that it's un funded yes it is

00:49:07.760 uh ties in very nicely with the liberal global order doesn't it and uh it also describes itself

00:49:13.680 as a global human rights organization which is about as liberal ngo as it could possibly sound

00:49:19.520 so also not as dishonest as as it could be because of course it's clearly based on the distinction

00:49:26.640 between two categories of human beings those whose political claims we accept and label indigenous and

00:49:32.560 those who whose claims we do not accept and label colonizers well the interesting thing is someone

00:49:37.920 actually mess reached out to me when i said i was going to cover this on the podcast and they said

00:49:41.520 you do realize that the un can give you special treatment and funding if you register as indigenous

00:49:47.280 but it's just that the uk government in the 1980s uh didn't want to do it and has resisted it since but

00:49:53.200 in theory a uh a government on our side could register the british people as indigenous and get special

00:50:00.000 privileges from the un to protect us that would be one hilarious way of breaking the system it would

00:50:05.680 be wouldn't it yes and uh if anyone's watching that can make that happen uh please do and of course you

00:50:11.760 can do this for your own countries as well the un uh there is a lot of uh funds and and loopholes

00:50:17.360 to exploit there they're normally used against us but why not use it again i want to hear the argument

00:50:22.000 why the germans aren't indigenous to germany i i want to hear somebody argue that you know all of

00:50:29.600 recorded history says there's this bunch of barbarian tribes beyond the rhine waging war against

00:50:35.440 everybody and nobody can touch them uh but actually they're not indigenous yeah it's absurd isn't it

00:50:41.440 i i i want to hear that argument mm-hmm and of course uh they were also funded by the world bank

00:50:47.760 um yes this also makes sense which is unsurprising and uh fundamentally um different countries use

00:50:56.320 vastly different criteria for recognizing indigeneity you know legal recognition

00:51:00.800 self-identification ancestry and linguistic heritage and therefore these sorts of things of data as well

00:51:06.320 as their agenda basically makes up maps like this completely obsolete you can't trust ngos because they

00:51:13.200 have their own agendas and they don't want to represent this honestly the truth is that there

00:51:18.240 are many people on that were not featured on this map that are indigenous and there are many people

00:51:23.120 on the map who are featured who have a much weaker claim to indigeneity and so it's absurd and if you

00:51:29.600 have a good understanding of history you can combat these sorts of things good stuff you want to read

00:51:35.760 a couple of your comments sorry that went on a bit longer than i intended oh it's fine we have we have

00:51:40.160 some time okay um let's have uh the shadow band says you joke that europeans descended from the

00:51:45.760 heavens but in anglo-saxon chronicles uh many royal families are descendants of wodan meaning a lot of

00:51:52.000 europeans are very slightly demigods it all makes sense now um well in my case there's a lot more than

00:51:57.360 slightly you've got a hundred percent of your ancestry yes it's just woden all the way down

00:52:02.880 i'm only i've got 1.2 germanic i put that down to my slightly more orderly ways you know we're all

00:52:11.280 following this is good at queuing and stuff yes uh magic says uh the east wing was built as a oh no

00:52:18.080 we've already read that one and uh youtube comments do we have any new ones i don't know which one yes

00:52:22.560 we do you want me to do oh we started from here they still fight over shit thousands of years ago when

00:52:28.560 there are story stories of mobs that are still fighting with each other to this day that's very

00:52:33.440 correct they're they're they're still fighting in those islands luke stewart says g'day um i thought

00:52:38.400 white people were made by magnets from a black guy with two brains also uh mob is the term they use for

00:52:44.240 an aboriginal tribe family clan uh-huh that's good to know um thank you for the uh the money from down

00:52:51.120 under normal man um nice name it's weird that people like the basques and armenians are left off the

00:52:57.440 map when they have histories longer than all native groups in north america combined yes that is true

00:53:02.640 um wuxia uh game central says uh since the king of england is recognizing and giving back ancestral

00:53:10.720 land can us gales get alba back um i mean you've also got a complicated situation because you've got

00:53:20.400 you know the gales and the scotty and the caledonians i mean i've got a lot of ancestry from

00:53:27.280 scotland and it's from all over you know the scottish isles and northern ireland and the republic of

00:53:32.720 ireland and so you've got a messy situation of your own there interesting stuff um so let's move on to

00:53:42.320 germany the european economy and the lovely way in which ukraine and the united states are

00:53:48.640 absolutely wrecking europe so starting off i think this is from late uh let's see this is in september of

00:53:59.600 this year we heard that there were going to be 3 500 layoffs at volkswagen 40 000 at mercedes audi ford

00:54:11.200 daimler so basically pretty much every major german industrial group is laying off staff

00:54:18.080 and this is very obviously one of the consequences of the um collapse in or of sort of the explosion in

00:54:28.640 energy prices that has been happening in europe and the direct cause of that explosion in energy prices

00:54:36.240 the ukraine war the european economy depended on russian gas no russian gas much higher energy

00:54:42.160 costs higher energy costs manufacturing loses competitiveness especially at a time when china is

00:54:49.360 more and more competitive because its economies of scale keep on growing

00:54:54.560 germany is just such an amazing case study in self-destruction yes absolutely they came out of the

00:54:59.680 you know second world war and yes there was a bit of a bit of argy-bargy then but they had coal

00:55:04.320 yes uh and they thought okay well we need to diversify into nuclear yeah and and from the

00:55:09.200 eastern half they had a lot of um uh russian oil flow uh russian cheap energy flowing into the eastern

00:55:15.920 half so after reading you unification they had to think about this and said well let's get rid of the

00:55:20.400 coal because that's a bit smelly so we get rid of that um and so we just have the nuclear and the

00:55:25.680 energy that's flowing in from the ussr connections and then they thought about a bit about it a bit more

00:55:31.120 and said right let's get rid of the nuclear and go all in on russian energy and then they got rid of

00:55:37.040 that as well well the americans blew up north stream using the ukrainians yes um meaning that

00:55:44.240 energy was crippled and vw has been talking about layoffs since last year this is from 28 october 2024

00:55:51.840 of course germany had such a head start because you know following the industrial revolution germany for

00:55:56.480 a long period of time had some of the most advanced industrial areas in the world the whole rhine

00:56:02.240 valley the rural uh area it was ridiculously rich well and with the river uh rural course i mean a

00:56:10.320 lot of that was sort of power generation yes and and and germany just shows how you become an

00:56:15.520 industrial superpower you get as much cheap abundant energy as you possibly can yes and then you can do

00:56:22.640 stuff especially if you're conscientious like a german you can get stuff done there is no prosperity

00:56:29.040 without cheap energy and food yes like the keys to preserve prosperity or cheap energy and cheap food

00:56:35.200 who are the enemies as far as the eu the liberals and the british government are concerned cheap energy

00:56:41.200 and cheap food yes so basically this has been a long time suicidal policy but now it's getting

00:56:48.320 considerably worse and you have to remember that after the closures of volkswagen plants and after

00:56:54.720 the layoffs of volkswagen plants there was a political effect so in north rhine westphalia one of the key

00:57:02.800 industrial areas of germany that and lower saxony um the spd which was the traditional strong party in

00:57:11.120 the area pretty much collapsed uh the center right the the christian democrats did okay but the afd tripled

00:57:19.680 its share of the vote from around five percent to around 15 percent and this was the result of this

00:57:26.800 stupid economic policy and you see this dissident vote in germany growing and you see and one of the

00:57:34.800 things that the afd wants is reconciliation with russia reasonably enough because that is critical to

00:57:40.160 restoring the german economy um and now they're struggling with electricity costs because they

00:57:46.080 have the higher electricity costs in europe i'm surprised it's in ross well aside from britain oh

00:57:52.240 okay aside from britain like in the eu aside from britain um and then they decided to the europeans decided to

00:58:01.920 seize a chinese chip maker that was based in the netherlands but the company was in the netherlands the

00:58:07.520 manufacturing was in china right so they actually just seized the administrative and marketing bit

00:58:14.240 exactly and so the chinese said uh right we are banning all exports then from the chip maker that

00:58:20.160 you just seized uh which is a reasonable response really which is a reasonable response and the

00:58:25.440 consequence is that volkswagen has stopped producing its electric vehicles but isn't germany one of the

00:58:32.800 countries that has an ev mandate yes okay right and they are full-on uh committed to expanding electric

00:58:40.480 vehicles and volkswagen made massive investments and in the previous round in 2004 they announced that

00:58:46.720 they were shutting down uh three plants now they've shut down another two factories that mainly build

00:58:53.360 electric vehicles because now that the chips from the chinese are gone yes they have to go through the

00:58:59.840 whole testing and configuration of new chips and they have no idea how long this is just german

00:59:04.640 government all over again isn't it it's like step one introduce ev mandate step two uh launch trade

00:59:11.040 war with china and get all of your ev chips turned off yes well you you're you're not characterizing this

00:59:18.160 correctly right uh step one shoot yourself in the foot yes step two scream about your foot hurting

00:59:23.520 step three blame the russians yes and then shoot again and then shoot again yes so like in terms of

00:59:30.480 the order of things first you start by doing an enormously destructive policy then you complain

00:59:35.840 about the consequences that's what you do if you're if you're if you're i remember the first year of the

00:59:40.960 um of the russia thing where they decided they're going to shut off all the russian energy yes this is

00:59:45.600 even before nordstream got yes blown up but they shut off all the uh the russian energy and then it was

00:59:51.280 like oh shit how are we going to get through the winter and they spent something like i was a

00:59:55.680 ridiculous it was like it was like five trillion euros they spent i don't think that they they went

01:00:00.960 absolutely insane trying to fill up their storage tanks in the summer of 2022 it might have been

01:00:07.280 like 800 billion it was it was some enormous that sounds i remember at the time working it out it would

01:00:12.320 have been enough to build so many nuclear power plants they could have had basically free energy for

01:00:18.160 the next 30 40 years they basically they are engaged in industrial sabotage at the behest of

01:00:26.320 the americans who are laughing all the way to the bank because every time this kind of thing happens

01:00:31.200 they end up firstly american car companies do better especially under the tariffs and secondly um europe

01:00:38.800 becomes more dependent on the united states well now now that's been the constant theme of the ukraine war

01:00:44.000 yes exactly that's been the constant theme of the ukraine war you are damaging your own economies

01:00:50.080 and then you are paying the americans for the privilege of just of destroying your own economies so i gotta

01:00:55.840 say as an economist if if i simply looked at the economic data yes and not any of the narrative any

01:01:02.400 of the battlefield stuff i simply looked at the economic narrative i would be convinced that the ukraine

01:01:06.960 war was a war of of america against europe yes specifically for germany so i've been arguing this

01:01:13.120 since trump took over that the policy in fact is to consolidate control over europe more and more

01:01:20.000 effectively that the objective of the trump administration isn't to beat china it isn't to

01:01:26.000 beat russia really the actual objective is to make sure that europe and latin america the parts of the american

01:01:33.040 empire that must remain parts of the american empire are fully under control and if you look

01:01:39.360 at what they're actually doing in terms of the trade deals that they're that they're making the europeans

01:01:44.160 von der leyen said that she had no choice but to sign that trade deal which accepted enormous new

01:01:49.040 american tariffs on europeans and had the europeans commit to buying 750 billion worth of energy from the

01:01:56.080 united states in four years i think the total production is something like 200 300 billion so they can't

01:02:02.000 physically buy that much uh because all of that a lot of the stuff that's produced is accounted for

01:02:08.960 to sales to other countries um and they committed to investing 600 billion in the united states

01:02:17.840 and now with what's changed with the ukraine war is that the americans are no longer giving weapons to

01:02:24.000 ukraine the europeans are buying the weapons and sending them to ukraine so the whole policy is designed

01:02:30.800 to bankrupt europe and the europeans because they have putin derangement syndrome just as badly or

01:02:36.480 twice as badly as they have trump derangement syndrome are okay with it so that's a good plan

01:02:42.800 and if you're but it wouldn't work unless the europeans basically went along with it at every stage

01:02:50.880 which they do yes because of the putin derangement syndrome

01:02:53.760 because they think that losing their industry and fighting a war to the last ukrainian

01:03:02.000 is less damaging than having a coffee with vladimir putin because he's putler you see yes and he's the

01:03:12.000 in current like he's the current year demon as opposed to hitler who was the eternal demon

01:03:17.200 hmm that's that's the mindset that's animating them i've always had an opinion that a lot of the

01:03:22.400 the financial incentive to to basically throw taxpayers money into ukraine as much as possible

01:03:29.040 is that it's chips on the table for the people calling the shots in europe to potentially make

01:03:33.920 money for themselves and their friends and allies um in in other industries or get you know hand out

01:03:41.200 contracts and then get favors out of office and the like if if you want to if if you want to do this

01:03:48.560 and make money for your friends some of your friends have to be industrialists

01:03:53.680 that must include volkswagen and siemens both of both of which are getting screwed

01:03:58.400 and then you would use these car manufacturers to make tanks instead of cars or armored vehicles or

01:04:03.840 missiles or something but if you're bankrupting your actual industries then even that isn't working

01:04:10.800 oh i'm sure the way it's going to work is is the money is never going to leave the us

01:04:16.240 yes what happens is the europeans will take out debt from the united states and then that money will

01:04:21.680 be used for us defense contractors then the goods will be sent from the us to ukraine and the cost of

01:04:29.280 it so so jobs are being created in the us or being sustained and the debt obligation is being created there

01:04:34.960 as well and and the europeans are just going to funnel money to the americans even more so than they

01:04:40.000 already do essentially i mean when trump says you have to pay for protection that's what's happening

01:04:46.320 yes the sensible thing to do is to get cheap russian energy and build weapons and maybe reduce

01:04:50.960 your freaking welfare bill two-thirds of the people on welfare in germany are you guessed it foreigners

01:04:57.360 yes i can believe that so they can cut their welfare bill by two-thirds just by being a bit

01:05:02.080 nationalistic but that would remind them of putin yeah well i mean germans are weird about nationalism

01:05:08.640 these days yes so the germans are saying that it wasn't the sanctions on the chinese company that

01:05:17.840 sort of paralyzed their their their production and they're saying that the production that the pause

01:05:23.360 in production was pre-planned i don't think so but i like tough sell i'm not aware of many factories

01:05:30.640 that decide on short notice that no no now we're going to stop producing it's it's a very short-term

01:05:35.680 business strategy yes isn't it ideally you want to produce as much as possible for as much profit as

01:05:41.840 possible you'd think so i mean to be fair the energy cost is probably a bigger factor the energy cost well

01:05:47.600 if you look if you don't have the chips to put in the car that's it yes but the energy cost you have

01:05:52.320 to remember they are they say that they are 25 to 50 percent above their targeted costs

01:05:58.080 if you're 25 to 50 above the cost that you're aiming for that means that you're going to go broke

01:06:06.800 well because you can't make any profit so there's a reasonable case to say we're going to shut down

01:06:11.520 production yes and take the l until we get cheap energy yeah because i mean in car manufacturing that

01:06:17.440 would wipe out the entire profit margin and then some yes you'd be selling them at a loss every time yes

01:06:23.120 exactly exactly so they're they're basically falling apart also didn't didn't recently

01:06:32.160 i mean volkswagen asked for something like 10 billion to keep going yes and the german government

01:06:37.600 turned around and said okay well look fair enough we're going to give 11 billion to ukraine

01:06:43.520 i mean that's what you're supposed to do i think is it well germ the germans would say so i guess

01:06:51.440 and this is volkswagen that's falling apart this isn't any old company but he's got the big man's

01:06:57.280 name on it isn't it i mean that was that was exactly yes there are two entrants to the german economy

01:07:02.880 volkswagen and siemens these are the engines of the german economy and they're sort of interrelated

01:07:07.600 so if volkswagen does badly then siemens is going to sort of suffer and so are all of the other

01:07:11.920 manufacturers and we saw that all of the car manufacturers are suffering but but hold on if you're

01:07:17.680 losing both or if it's not just that these are the engines of the german economies the german

01:07:23.920 economy is the engine of the european economy yeah and you're in a situation where france is facing a

01:07:31.040 debt crisis which is the second biggest economy in europe and italy is a basket case and spain is a

01:07:38.080 basket case greeks aren't doing too well either but they're small and they're manageable so you could

01:07:44.320 there is a scenario where you can bail out greece as many times as you want to there is no scenario

01:07:49.680 where you can bail out france once no and if german industry falls apart france will follow i mean that

01:07:58.160 they probably can't bail out spain let alone france and germany exactly not a hope in hell i should also

01:08:04.240 give an honorable mention to the chemicals industry which used to be 30 percent of the german um

01:08:08.880 manufacturing is synonymous with their economy isn't it well yeah more or less and the way that

01:08:13.680 chemicals work is you get a whole load of precursors and then an enormous amount of energy

01:08:18.480 and you end up with chemicals but the enormous amount of energy is the key thing and of course when

01:08:23.040 the the cheap russian energy was turned off that just became unviable you can't have a chemicals

01:08:28.080 industry without gas like gas is not just the source of energy but it's also a major input

01:08:34.400 it can be a precursor itself yes it can be a precursor itself exactly it is a precursor itself

01:08:40.480 and if you buy that by lng from the americans yes you might as well give up yes and relocate the plant

01:08:46.720 to america i mean and you've promised to invest 600 billion in america so uncle trump is going to come

01:08:53.440 collecting yes this is like the end of a very unfortunate game of monopoly where yeah yes you're

01:08:59.840 having to mortgage everything over to the person who's got yes thanks for that yes uh in case you

01:09:04.160 haven't watched it check out our lads hour from last i like that one uh with a monopoly game okay

01:09:09.680 in case you haven't seen that but to add insult to injury and to make everything even worse um

01:09:17.520 over two days three refineries one in romania one in hungary and one in slovakia

01:09:25.600 blew up what within a three day in slovenia within a three-day window within a three-day window what a

01:09:30.720 terrible coincidence that is and they were all supposedly undergoing maintenance when they blew

01:09:38.000 up but they have one thing in common which is that they all receive russian energy oh what a

01:09:45.280 remarkable coincidence yes and uh well i think we i don't think we need to look for foul play here i

01:09:53.040 mean no no wild set of coincidences yes it is completely accidental i'm sure it has nothing to

01:10:02.640 do with the fact that um one of them is owned by luke oil and the other two receive russian gas

01:10:09.520 and has nothing to do with the fact that hungary and slovenia has have been resisting cutting off all

01:10:16.880 russian energy so nevertheless i feel the need to ask uh was it a ukrainian team or a us black op team

01:10:24.560 well if i had to guess i would say it was ukrainians on the ground under american command

01:10:30.240 yes that does make sense if i had to get because there's no way i mean as you pointed out when we

01:10:35.680 were chatting given the risk of triggering article 5 like this there's no way that this would have

01:10:41.760 happened without american authorization and so as the americans try to put pressure on russia to uh

01:10:50.000 end the war on the current front line which the russians would never do because the current front

01:10:54.960 line is collapsing and the ukrainians are falling to bits um they're trying to apply more and more

01:11:01.760 economic pressure by basically stopping russia from selling its oil except that oil is a fungible

01:11:08.480 commodity and there's no way you can actually stop russian oil if you can't stop the iranians

01:11:14.000 selling their oil you cannot stop the russians selling their oil when they're sending a lot of

01:11:19.680 the their energy to india and then in the indians were reselling it to europe as well pretty much

01:11:25.040 they were refining it now now we're just buying russian oil with an indian markup yes they've it's

01:11:31.600 been washed by the indians so what ends up happening here is that they go and sell the oil to the saudis

01:11:37.200 yes and then the saudis sell it on because the saudis will always want to help the russians evade

01:11:43.440 sanctions for a very freaking obvious reason if you can sanction russian oil you can sanction saudi oil

01:11:50.640 and the russia and the saudis will have zero tolerance for that because that means that the

01:11:55.600 americans could kill them whenever they want to and so every country in the gulf that is a large

01:12:00.800 exporter of oil has an interest in thwarting the american plan and that's exactly what they've been doing

01:12:07.120 the saudis stopped uh using their own refined oil to sell on their domestic market they start uh

01:12:14.000 refined diesel sorry to sell on their domestic market they started buying russian diesel and

01:12:19.360 selling their diesel onto exports that makes meaning that everybody was paying the saudis a markup

01:12:25.840 yes i mean that makes sense because you can't tell the difference in in oil because saudi crude is

01:12:29.520 quite light and russian is quite dense there is a difference between them the quality of the crudes so

01:12:34.320 if the saudis stop using their own we're going to export 100 of that and then we're going to make

01:12:38.720 up the gap with cheap russian energy exactly yeah exactly and the russians will offer this deal to

01:12:44.560 everybody who produces oil and everybody who produces oil will say yes because if you can

01:12:50.080 sanction russia you can destroy iran you can destroy iraq you can destroy saudi the uae all of them are

01:12:55.200 on the their heads are on the chopping block next so they're all going to help the russians

01:12:59.840 so they're going crazy about india the americans are it's important but it's never going to actually

01:13:09.760 solve the problem and if you think about russia historically do who are the people who have the

01:13:15.920 most ability to endure massive amounts of economic and physical pain and keep going well it's the

01:13:21.840 russians well they did it for 80 years perfectly fine exactly yes i mean i mean kissinger keeps on

01:13:28.320 repeating the point that nobody can have bear suffering more than the russians so to think

01:13:34.000 that some economic difficulties are going to stop them is a bit absurd all that this is doing is

01:13:40.000 destroying the european economy well and if the german suffering there is it if the german economy is

01:13:44.880 collapsing and all of a sudden three of the biggest refineries in europe get blown up

01:13:51.520 you can imagine that this has a cascading effect because like hungary a huge amount of volkswagen's

01:13:57.600 equipment and and and and products are actually built in hungary and in slovenia and in romania

01:14:05.600 that's that was the benefit of the eu to them they could sort of disperse their factories to lower cost

01:14:11.760 centers and hungary is perhaps one of the biggest ones for them so attacking hungarian energy means

01:14:18.720 that the impact is felt not just by the hungarians but also by german companies and if it's felt by

01:14:25.120 german companies it's felt by the rest of the eu economy the weird thing for me in all of this

01:14:31.200 is it's blatantly obvious what's happening here yes and so it must be blatantly obvious to the people

01:14:37.360 running germany and the other eu countries yes okay and so on it's just nothing they can do about it

01:14:42.160 is there there's nothing there is a lot they can do about it but nothing they're willing to do but

01:14:46.480 there's nothing they're willing to do about it because somebody has blackmail material in all of them

01:14:52.960 i mean we see yeah yes i mean the rent boys story it's not an accident is it it it's not a you know yeah

01:15:01.920 is it an accident that they were ukrainians i i don't know i mean this is something i noticed for

01:15:07.120 a long time if if you are of unpeachable character such as myself and beau yeah you get screened out

01:15:14.160 before you even get to run for parliament yes you're not allowed to get to the top unless you're the type

01:15:20.240 of person that they've got some something on yes that that that that is very much the case yes and

01:15:27.040 actually that there is plenty but they could got me get me on they just didn't bother to look for some

01:15:30.720 reason um anyhow so now european refineries are being treated by the ukrainians in the same exact way

01:15:42.080 that they're treating russian refineries they're attacking russian refineries regularly the good news

01:15:48.160 is for europe that these refineries are very robust and tend to be easily repairable or repairable

01:15:56.080 within a manageable time frame but the fact that you're treating european refineries in the same

01:16:01.200 way that you're treating russian refineries whilst we're giving them money whilst you're giving them

01:16:05.840 money shows the nature of this war and the consequences of this war it's been much more

01:16:12.400 destructive to europe than it is to anybody else it makes a lot more sense that trump did a u-turn about

01:16:17.680 ending the war in ukraine doesn't it when you realize that carrying it on weakens europe and

01:16:22.320 increases american power over us yeah somebody sat him down now that he's president and showed him the

01:16:27.360 area 51 stuff and then said by the way is is not actually a war proxy war against russia it's a proxy

01:16:32.480 war against europe yep more or less and and look that we cannot allow anything to happen to the dollar

01:16:38.720 before this was happening the dollar as a share of international transactions were going like that

01:16:43.280 and and the euro was going like that and it's like no that cannot be allowed to happen the dollar has to

01:16:48.480 remain sacrosanct so if we launch a proxy war against europe and dress it up as a proxy war against

01:16:53.680 russia we can take out the europeans more or less more or less um so yeah you're you're paying for these

01:17:01.360 weapons and your refineries are getting bombed in exchange and um i don't see how this gets resolved

01:17:11.680 in favor of europe because you have to remember that as the european economy breaks down one of the

01:17:18.000 key questions is going to be the welfare state well because you've imported the bazillion bombalians

01:17:24.480 when you cut them off welfare which is going to be the main political demand for anybody who's saying

01:17:29.520 that you cut the welfare for the foreigners before you do it for the natives

01:17:33.360 they're going to riot and all of your money is going to have been spent

01:17:37.120 trying to fight a land war against russia a feat at which hitler and napoleon both failed

01:17:44.320 and they were both imminently more qualified militarily than anybody running the show right now

01:17:52.640 so there is this recklessness involved in this and what does trump do on the back of this well he

01:17:57.920 imposes more sanctions on the russians in order to make it harder for everybody else to acquire energy

01:18:05.280 while the americans get all the cheap energy that they want and i would expect the americans

01:18:10.800 to start slapping canada now at some point because it's too close to china and to make

01:18:16.400 sure that the canadians are sending their energy to the americans as well bringing down the price

01:18:21.280 for the u.s for further there has to be very strong incentives for the canadians put in place

01:18:25.920 otherwise they could trade with europe because they can produce a fair amount of energy themselves

01:18:30.160 well most of their assets are geared towards the other side of the world which is why slapping

01:18:36.800 them around and blowing up some of their stuff might convince them to redirect it the canadians

01:18:41.680 have become too close to the chinese essentially and this whole story of them cozying up to europe

01:18:46.560 i mean they don't have a military so they're going to be punched in the face in the same way that

01:18:50.960 europe is being punched in the face as part of this american consolidation

01:18:54.080 this is the actual story here whatever residual sovereignty europe has is being ripped to shreds

01:19:03.600 and it's not like even being good vassals helped them because they're still games they're being

01:19:11.200 good vassals and still getting screwed yes yes and all of this is intended to stop a situation where

01:19:19.520 the germans and the russians say let's split central europe between us and stop fighting

01:19:25.360 which would arguably be the best thing possible for the peoples of central europe

01:19:28.880 like you take the orthodox we'll take the catholics and the protestants and be done with it

01:19:36.800 which is how europe used to work

01:19:40.720 could work like that again though say again it could work like that again though it could work

01:19:44.880 like that right people with the right political will yes we can turn this around yes it can be turned

01:19:50.800 around um so yeah that's uh that's ukraine punching you in the face again

01:19:57.440 yes it's very interesting but very depressing yes it is yes it is sorry samson you have the mouse

01:20:13.200 oh wow we have a bunch of video comments let me let me quickly go through the comments here and

01:20:17.680 then we do the video comments uh jm denton uh remember the german un delegation haltedly laughing

01:20:24.320 at trump for saying they'd be in trouble for their energy management yes what is even more surprising

01:20:30.800 is the germans saying nothing about nordstrom getting blown up yes i mean seriously they knew

01:20:36.720 who did it didn't they exactly everybody knows who did it uh the bane says the energy crisis is just

01:20:42.640 the wef plan the net zero policy just a way to make us all poor independent on governments own

01:20:47.360 nothing and be happy yes yes it ties in nicely with it but i i think it's it's more uh a symptom of

01:20:55.440 the americans uh gaining an advantage over europe which you know you look at history and they've never

01:21:01.760 been averse to doing that you know and not having a go at america it's just an observation it's how

01:21:07.680 empire works really it is yeah um luke stewart says the thing about the magnets creating white people

01:21:14.240 is from the story of yakub who wanted to destroy his people from the nation of islam it's wild i

01:21:19.120 know about it these guys are crazy it's a fantastic story hilarious uh is this a similar situation in

01:21:25.200 germany to what caused the rise of the austrian man look all of the west is being pushed in this

01:21:29.760 direction i think in many ways uh things are worse now than in weimar germany um wait till the

01:21:35.680 inflation properly hits i know yeah wait until it's properly culturally certainly things are worse

01:21:40.160 when this current when this country's currency collapses when the euro collapses then you'll

01:21:46.880 start seeing some nasty things commander strider says i want to feel bad for them but the more i

01:21:52.160 learn about how we were being screwed over and trade with europe the harder i find it to care

01:21:56.960 yeah the trade system was completely unfair but then the answer to that isn't blowing up all of

01:22:01.360 european industry i mean presumably you're going to need the europeans to fight against somebody at some

01:22:06.560 point and they need to be able to produce some of their own weapons one of the things that um i think

01:22:11.600 about quite a lot is obviously europe and america are allies and we're sort of not the closest allies

01:22:18.880 in some ways right particularly the continental europeans britain tends to be a little bit closer

01:22:23.360 to america yes um obviously you know there are many reasons for that but you'd think that if you

01:22:29.680 want to incentivize people to come over to your side in a sort of geopolitical sense surely you want to make

01:22:34.960 the benefits of being an ally as good as possible whilst you know being an adversary as disincentivized

01:22:43.120 i think the vassal or uh i think vassals had more way more honor possibly i think vassals genuine

01:22:50.800 vassals had way more way more what did what did dracula cool renfield i mean that that relationship is

01:22:56.320 probably a bit more ah yes uh i i know what you're looking for or slave or i don't know something like

01:23:02.080 that yeah yeah the bane says don't forget the thousands of missing children from ukraine

01:23:06.640 probably trafficked and used in blackmail quite possibly

01:23:09.120 shall we go to the video comments yes we've got a whole bunch of those haven't we

01:23:21.440 um

01:23:28.480 Yeah, those know King protests

01:23:57.920 are very embarrassing. I'm, you know, I've got some very soft Republican leanings, particularly

01:24:02.400 with our current King. So, you know, I was already somewhat on side with the concept, but it was

01:24:08.960 just lame, wasn't it? It's just an anti-Trump thing. I'd rather have a strong... It's boring, yeah.

01:24:13.300 This is an entirely boring, insignificant protest. Monarchists through and through.

01:24:18.820 I'd rather have a very strong King than anything elected. I'd like a strong King, just not the one

01:24:22.900 we've got. Yeah. I think the fact that he's got no British blood makes it easier for him to sell

01:24:27.920 us down the river. Let's see this one.

01:24:29.900 The Quinn's Ideas YouTube channel describes some of the more interesting ideas in science fiction

01:24:35.020 and fantasy. One video concerned the Killing Star, in which mankind has turned Earth into a paradise

01:24:40.240 and expanded throughout the solar system, but is suddenly confronted by a massive attack by an

01:24:44.780 unknown alien race. The attack was precipitated by three rules we should all bear in mind.

01:24:49.780 One, any species must prioritise its own survival above all others. Two, passive species cannot

01:24:55.640 become dominant. Three, any species must assume the first two rules apply to other competing species.

01:25:02.660 Very, very true. That sounds like it was a reply to your segment.

01:25:06.560 It's basic game theory, isn't it? Yep.

01:25:10.000 Helen Back, you can send that email if you like, but bear in mind I'm very low effort when it comes

01:25:15.880 to these sort of things. She'll know what I'm talking about. Right, next one.

01:25:19.780 Wonderful what we have become in this country. Wonderful.

01:25:37.160 If that's not a video that epitomises our time, I don't know what is.

01:25:40.120 Okay, guys, I'm going to do a tornado siren once again.

01:25:45.720 Oh, thank you for that, sir. I know this guy. He's got a YouTube channel.

01:26:07.220 I mean, if you are ever in a situation where you need a tornado siren and you don't have one...

01:26:11.720 Just call him and put him on speakerphone.

01:26:14.060 Whoever submitted that is a genius.

01:26:15.380 Perfect. Yes, genius.

01:26:16.720 Ha ha ha.

01:26:24.960 This is a wholesome palate cleanser.

01:26:26.880 Very nice. We all love that. The cat video on the internet. It's what it's made for.

01:26:49.760 I'm so f***ing sick of this. They truly think we're so stupid, we simply won't understand their reply.

01:26:56.840 Says maintaining the exemption preserves a safe space for operational planning and policy discussion,

01:27:01.640 allowing officials and stakeholders...

01:27:03.260 Who is the most important stakeholder in government policy? Some arsehole NGO or the entire British public?

01:27:08.000 ...enables participants to speak openly and honestly and completely, including exploring difficult or sensitive options.

01:27:13.840 The difficult and sensitive options are the most important to publicise, because when I'm looking at the ballot paper,

01:27:18.880 if my government considers something reprehensible an option, I think I should f***ing know.

01:27:23.460 I very much agree.

01:27:25.960 That response to that freedom of information request was insane.

01:27:30.060 Yes. It's just completely mad.

01:27:32.440 We don't like you, so you're not getting it.

01:27:34.800 Yeah, exactly.

01:27:35.940 Oh, we've had that one.

01:27:37.280 We've had this one.

01:27:37.880 This is a two.

01:27:38.180 All right.

01:27:40.640 Do some of the comedy comments.

01:27:44.640 Samson, thank you very much for putting a poll up, which asked if I should dye my hair.

01:27:49.600 And the top response was actually, I should shave it all off and donate it to Boe.

01:27:53.560 So I will get right on that.

01:27:57.800 Literally destroying the White House.

01:27:59.300 Sophie Silliv says, this is just the expansion of the ballroom that Trump has been talking about for months indeed.

01:28:04.020 Someone online says, Trump renovates a portion of the White House, as many presidents have done before him, the left incoherent screaming.

01:28:11.020 Yes.

01:28:11.280 So if you're going to upset them, you know, upset them for something proper.

01:28:14.220 Yep.

01:28:15.040 Is what I think.

01:28:17.300 I'm not surprised, says Henry Ashman, that Hillary Clinton went full Sackville baggings over the White House.

01:28:24.800 Good Lord of the Rings reference there.

01:28:26.480 Indeed.

01:28:26.820 Chance from Canada says, reuniting the empire sounds great, but can we please leave India out?

01:28:34.080 We don't want them.

01:28:34.740 No, I'm not saying reunite the empire.

01:28:36.220 I'm saying reunite the Anglosphere.

01:28:38.840 Specifically, it's just, was that five of us?

01:28:41.460 I've been arguing with Indians all day.

01:28:44.080 Well, I actually haven't.

01:28:44.960 I've been ignoring them and they've been arguing with me.

01:28:47.380 And they're so annoying.

01:28:49.200 Just please stop.

01:28:50.160 It's just like a wave of beggars just saying, give us money, you owe us money for the empire,

01:28:56.640 for building all of our infrastructure that we've neglected.

01:29:00.060 What are your comments?

01:29:01.180 Any good ones?

01:29:01.960 Sure.

01:29:04.820 Alex Ptolemy says, I've been saying for years the British government should get native Brits

01:29:08.520 recognised as indigenous, so it means we can stake a good claim to sovereignty over our homeland.

01:29:14.020 Either that or it forces international bodies to admit that indigenousness doesn't mean much.

01:29:22.080 I very much agree.

01:29:23.620 Yeah, it's used as a term to basically mean people who are politically expedient to the left

01:29:29.380 is weaponised against white Europeans most of the time.

01:29:35.600 Roman Observer says, the Anglosphere is the death of England.

01:29:38.860 You have been warned.

01:29:40.740 I don't know what you mean.

01:29:42.300 I think it means either a loss of sovereignty or because Australia and Canada have done

01:29:51.020 even more wonderful things with their immigration systems than Britain.

01:29:54.520 That's true, yeah.

01:29:56.640 Well, so has New Zealand.

01:29:57.960 So has New Zealand, yes.

01:29:59.400 AZ Desert Rat says, just because the Chinese government recognises all these different ethnic

01:30:03.400 groups doesn't mean it treats them well.

01:30:05.260 China has been a mess for millennia.

01:30:06.980 I wouldn't necessarily say they've been a mess for millennia, but I don't think they recognise

01:30:12.380 the ethnic groups so they can target them, not because they respect them.

01:30:17.200 Yeah.

01:30:17.440 The final one, Bay State.

01:30:19.260 I speak...

01:30:19.820 I can't read that.

01:30:22.200 I speak fluent, our special person.

01:30:26.080 I can translate indigenous just means exotic.

01:30:28.700 White people don't exist because white is the default race, therefore a lack of race.

01:30:33.080 Ah, well, Ukraine at war with Europe.

01:30:37.860 Brian Tomlinson says, German car manufacturers are shutting factories that produce EVs because

01:30:42.040 China is not sending them parts.

01:30:43.420 Yes, they're not sending them parts, including the chips that are most important parts, because

01:30:48.980 of restrictions that they have imposed following the Americans imposing restrictions on them.

01:30:54.040 So the American policy when it comes to China is to try to force Europe to join the US fully

01:31:00.760 in the trade war, with Europe being absolutely unprepared.

01:31:04.520 There's an argument to be made that you could never prepare for it other than by doing it.

01:31:09.460 And so you must suffer the decline first and then have the recovery.

01:31:13.740 But yes, if you wanted to elaborate on that, yes, fair enough.

01:31:17.500 Sophie Liv, not to forget that we have based more and more of our infrastructure that requires

01:31:22.820 constant power to function.

01:31:24.900 We have made ourselves wholly dependent on constant access to constant electricity.

01:31:28.440 So if the power is ever to go out, it's a disaster.

01:31:32.160 Correct.

01:31:32.940 Sorry to butt in, but I just wanted to comment on Amy's one where she says, the Germans are

01:31:37.640 self-sabotaging, yes, but the greatest threat to the American empire is Europe.

01:31:41.480 A united Germany and Russia would dominate manufacturing.

01:31:43.860 Correct.

01:31:44.100 I mean, the concern of Germany and Russia uniting has been the great game of European statesmanship

01:31:52.400 for hundreds of years.

01:31:53.760 Yes.

01:31:54.420 And it feels like there's still a massive focus on that.

01:31:58.620 Yes.

01:31:58.920 And we're just going to completely ignore the new possibility of Russia uniting with China.

01:32:07.180 Which is a much bigger nightmare.

01:32:08.440 And the monsoon region, because then you've got a Eurasian empire that has literally everything.

01:32:13.640 Tech, money, energy.

01:32:15.800 Population, markets, resources, everything.

01:32:18.300 And that would completely dwarf a Russian-German alliance.

01:32:22.380 You are better off under a Russian-German alliance and an Anglosphere alliance than you

01:32:27.500 are under a Eurasian empire.

01:32:29.860 Yeah.

01:32:30.020 Like, that must be straightforward.

01:32:32.460 And anybody who doesn't see that, I don't know how to help you.

01:32:35.500 But they're all playing the game of the last century, not the next one.

01:32:38.880 Exactly.

01:32:39.580 Exactly.

01:32:40.200 Exactly.

01:32:41.780 Michael Dribelbis, fighting to the last Ukrainian.

01:32:45.040 EU is always all mouth and trousers when it comes to opposing Russia, whether through

01:32:51.720 the Cold War or now with Ukraine.

01:32:53.400 As long as someone else is willing to do the dying, Europe has always been the little bully.

01:32:56.960 Anyway, that is an insane take, considering European history.

01:33:01.740 But, yeah, I'm not going to argue with that, because it's just wrong.

01:33:07.300 All right.

01:33:08.100 Well, thank you very much for showing up and listening to us talk.

01:33:14.080 Gentlemen, thank you for talking.

01:33:15.940 A pleasure.

01:33:16.800 Samson, very much.

01:33:17.640 Thank you for pressing buttons and doing important stuff.

01:33:20.500 Thank you for enjoying it and watching it at home.

01:33:22.960 Yes.

01:33:23.840 And cheerio.

01:33:24.780 Goodbye.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - October 23, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1280

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