The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1283

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 28th of October 2025.

00:00:05.440 This is podcast number 1,283. I can't believe we've done that many already.

00:00:11.000 And I am joined by Nate and Beau.

00:00:14.460 And we are going to be talking about Islamic no-go zones, 1.00

00:00:17.880 When Will China Cross the Rubicon and Sadiq Khan's cover-up.

00:00:21.520 I've also got some announcements to make.

00:00:23.740 Stelios' course webinar will be Thursday at 6pm.

00:00:27.000 So if you want to interrogate him about ancient Greek wisdom, that is the place to do it.

00:00:32.680 And also, Samson really wants us to mention the fact that he's done a Brokonomics about Warhammer with Dan.

00:00:40.260 So if you want to see the man behind the studio, that is your way of doing it.

00:00:43.840 And also learn about Warhammer as well.

00:00:46.560 Hope it went well, Samson. How was it?

00:00:49.700 I think it went well.

00:00:51.140 I can't actually hear you.

00:00:51.980 No, it should have gone well. I'm hoping you will enjoy it.

00:00:55.280 There we go.

00:00:55.780 A disembodied voice of God.

00:00:58.200 You actually get to set a face reveal.

00:01:01.840 You go and you get it here on Lotus Eaters.

00:01:05.160 But anyway.

00:01:06.080 Oh, I'm getting some adjustments before we go live.

00:01:08.500 Don't worry.

00:01:09.260 We're getting a face reveal.

00:01:10.920 Yeah.

00:01:13.820 Put the camera out of focus. There we go.

00:01:16.240 Brilliant.

00:01:16.900 All right.

00:01:17.240 So recently UKIP announced that they were going to hold a rally or a protest, I suppose, in Whitechapel, which, if you know London or Britain more generally, is a pretty bold move.

00:01:33.180 Oh, I know you're familiar with the area.

00:01:36.180 Whitechapel, interesting place to do it, isn't it?

00:01:39.740 Yeah, it's around my manor.

00:01:41.320 East London.

00:01:42.620 And it ends.

00:01:43.480 London.

00:01:44.640 No, I'm Essex, really.

00:01:46.180 But still, East London is not a million miles away from where I was born and grew up.

00:01:50.120 So, yeah, Whitechapel is like the belly of the beast.

00:01:52.480 All around there.

00:01:53.420 Mile End.

00:01:54.360 Bow Church. 0.66

00:01:55.860 All around there.

00:01:57.760 Up there.

00:01:58.060 It's like, it's completely and utterly colonised.

00:02:02.920 Utterly.

00:02:03.880 It's a Muslim majority as well, isn't it?

00:02:06.700 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:07.560 Whitechapel.

00:02:08.180 All the shops are foreign-owned shops. 0.66

00:02:11.380 And despite what people have a go at you for noticing the truth on Twitter, if you say this, if you go there and you're white, you get dirty looks. 0.62

00:02:18.740 You'll be one of the only white people in the street. 0.79

00:02:20.740 And the filthy market they've got there most of the time, they look at you like, you're in the wrong bit of London, mate.

00:02:25.700 Yeah.

00:02:26.760 It's horrible.

00:02:27.440 It's horrible.

00:02:28.700 I've been to Whitechapel before.

00:02:30.560 It was like a weird white enclave in it of a pub that was quite nice.

00:02:36.460 A blind beggar? 1.00

00:02:37.000 Everywhere around it.

00:02:37.540 A blind beggar on Mile End Road, where the Crays did one of their things. 1.00

00:02:42.300 It's also famous for the Whitechapel murders, Jack the Ripper, 1888, of course.

00:02:45.900 It's not exactly a good press, is it?

00:02:47.780 It used to be a Jewish quarter back in the 19th century, early 20th century.

00:02:51.980 It used to be very, very working class.

00:02:54.420 Then it was sort of a Jewish quarter.

00:02:55.500 And now it's completely colonised by Muslims, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis and all sorts, actually.

00:03:00.980 We'll be seeing some of that today.

00:03:02.880 It's such a shame, isn't it?

00:03:03.920 Like, something with such a rich, a geographical location with such a rich cultural history just captured.

00:03:10.420 Yeah, it's horrible.

00:03:12.780 They announced this for the 25th of October, so it was only a few days ago.

00:03:17.220 And then the Met Police decided to ban it.

00:03:21.680 Oh, so they can ban?

00:03:23.420 Protests, yeah.

00:03:24.380 Oh.

00:03:24.700 Interesting, isn't it?

00:03:25.400 But I thought...

00:03:27.000 All those protests through the...

00:03:29.520 I thought Siobhan and Mahmood said...

00:03:30.940 Oh.

00:03:32.440 Oh.

00:03:33.240 The Palestine protests, the George Floyd ones. 0.92

00:03:36.160 Oh, I see.

00:03:37.220 All of those were fine.

00:03:38.960 Must have been a new thing that they introduced recently.

00:03:41.880 White boys, isn't it? 1.00

00:03:42.660 White boys can't protest at the drop of a hat all the time. 0.92

00:03:45.700 That's the issue, isn't it?

00:03:46.660 And it's interesting as well that they just acknowledge over-concerns of serious disorder.

00:03:51.960 From who?

00:03:53.200 Oh, well, they will suggest that, don't worry.

00:03:56.040 So, I was able to find an extract from Commander Nick John.

00:04:00.940 And I'll scroll down here somewhere.

00:04:02.780 Where is it?

00:04:03.860 Here we go.

00:04:04.560 Tower Hamlets has the largest percentage of Muslim residents anywhere in the UK,

00:04:08.340 and the prospect of this protest taking place in the heart of the borough

00:04:11.100 has been the cause of significant concern locally.

00:04:13.600 It is our assessment that there is a realistic prospect of serious disorder

00:04:17.260 if it were to go ahead in the proposed location.

00:04:20.660 It's interesting here that they're acknowledging that, well,

00:04:23.560 there's going to be a peaceful protest going on,

00:04:25.540 and there's going to be a violent response to it.

00:04:28.140 So, the police are willing to acknowledge that there is this problem

00:04:30.940 when it suits them.

00:04:33.220 But other times, less so.

00:04:35.040 It's, you know, stash your weapons in the mosque. 1.00

00:04:36.700 We're going to treat you with kid gloves.

00:04:38.840 Of course, to be perfectly clear with this,

00:04:42.500 it's not the you-kippers that are going to start kicking off. 1.00

00:04:46.120 Right?

00:04:46.660 Right. 0.78

00:04:47.320 You-kippers are pretty milquetoast, 1.00

00:04:51.100 pretty low-level patriot-type people.

00:04:54.820 Sivnats.

00:04:55.060 They're not going to...

00:04:55.920 Sivnats, you might say.

00:04:57.080 Yeah.

00:04:57.380 They're not going to be, like,

00:04:58.840 having running street battles with anyone that they started.

00:05:02.360 That's not what that is.

00:05:03.740 That's not what's happening here.

00:05:04.840 They've had plenty of rallies across the country,

00:05:06.020 and they've not done any of that as far as I...

00:05:07.740 They'd sooner be dancing in the street, quite frankly,

00:05:09.540 wouldn't they?

00:05:09.840 Yeah.

00:05:10.140 They're not actually doing anything physical with anyone.

00:05:13.560 A significant concern.

00:05:15.460 Yeah, from the Muslims, 1.00

00:05:17.960 not liking any white patriotic people 0.98

00:05:21.100 walking through their territory.

00:05:24.340 It basically amounts to that, doesn't it?

00:05:25.760 It's exactly what it is.

00:05:26.720 It's exactly what it is.

00:05:27.560 Let's call it what it is.

00:05:28.360 They explicitly say it's theirs.

00:05:30.000 Yeah.

00:05:30.360 They have explicitly said it is theirs.

00:05:32.600 You can find clips of people in London.

00:05:34.540 It will usually be somewhere like Whitechapel,

00:05:36.740 where they're like,

00:05:37.200 this is our country now.

00:05:39.420 This is our bit of London, at least, now.

00:05:43.260 I'm just explicitly happy to say it.

00:05:46.400 So another thing they mention is,

00:05:48.280 this is in addition to the disruption

00:05:49.860 that two large protests taking place

00:05:51.640 on a key arterial route through East London would cause.

00:05:54.260 So they've added this additional justification,

00:05:57.560 but that doesn't stop other protests.

00:05:59.360 So it's a little bit...

00:06:00.840 I was going to say,

00:06:01.220 there's some pretty central London protests

00:06:03.300 that have been going on pretty much every single weekend for...

00:06:07.200 Not really an excuse, is it?

00:06:09.780 Yeah, no.

00:06:11.240 A key arterial route.

00:06:12.900 You can go round Whitechapel if you need to.

00:06:15.120 A number of different ways,

00:06:16.300 north and south.

00:06:17.900 That's not a thing.

00:06:19.500 London's not strapped for roads, is it?

00:06:21.540 Right.

00:06:22.160 It's not like there's one highway into central London,

00:06:25.060 like it's the 18th century.

00:06:27.060 No, you can go either way round Whitechapel if you need to.

00:06:29.980 That's fine. 0.97

00:06:31.340 No, it's silly.

00:06:32.960 I'll tell you what the Met Police could do

00:06:34.660 with some ancient Greek virtue ethics.

00:06:37.300 And you know the man to do it would be Stelios.

00:06:41.040 Stelios.

00:06:41.640 He could school them in how to conduct themselves virtuously.

00:06:45.420 And the good thing is that he has a course

00:06:47.660 which you can sign up to to learn all about this.

00:06:50.040 He is, of course, an expert on this thing

00:06:52.380 and he worked incredibly hard.

00:06:54.100 So it would be very good if you checked it out,

00:06:56.680 both for you and him.

00:06:57.580 A true expert, born in Athens and he's got a PhD in philosophy.

00:07:00.940 So a real-life, modern-day Greek philosopher in the flesh.

00:07:05.860 Few and far between.

00:07:07.820 But anyway, unperturbed, they announced a different location,

00:07:12.480 London Oratory.

00:07:14.840 I don't really know where that is.

00:07:16.000 I'm not that familiar with London.

00:07:18.180 But it's not necessarily near Whitechapel, is it, Beau?

00:07:21.440 I don't know.

00:07:21.980 Where is that?

00:07:22.980 SW7?

00:07:24.180 There it is in the background, I presume.

00:07:25.820 All right, okay.

00:07:26.380 Oh, Brompton Road, okay, yeah.

00:07:29.040 Right, yeah.

00:07:29.740 So it was a different location.

00:07:31.000 Yeah, the other side of London.

00:07:33.040 Anyway, go on.

00:07:34.340 Nick Tenconi, who's the leader of UKIP,

00:07:36.400 did point out the borough of Tower Hamlets

00:07:38.200 is basically an Islamist no-go zone, 1.00

00:07:40.020 which is clearly evident from what has happened here,

00:07:42.920 that if the police are saying,

00:07:44.620 you can't come through here and protest,

00:07:46.320 you're not going to be safe,

00:07:47.720 then by definition this has to be true, doesn't it?

00:07:50.800 It's very difficult not to describe it as theirs now.

00:07:54.280 Yeah, of course.

00:07:55.240 It's a conquered territory.

00:07:57.340 I actually asked him for a statement about this,

00:08:01.620 just because I was curious what he thought about it all,

00:08:04.400 and he says,

00:08:04.820 as a result of Islamist intimidation tactics and threats of violence

00:08:08.720 from the unholy alliance of communists and Islamo-fascists, 0.93

00:08:11.760 the Met Police caved into a mob and banned us from marching on Saturday.

00:08:15.560 White Chapel must now be declared a terrorist state, I think.

00:08:19.280 I think we would be lucky.

00:08:21.400 Our message was of peace, love and unity

00:08:23.200 and a declaration against Islamo-fascism and the Caliphate.

00:08:26.620 Our message is anti-Islamism, anti-extremism 1.00

00:08:29.520 and to denounce and reject radical Islam.

00:08:31.460 The Met Police have declared it a no-go zone

00:08:33.740 for patriots and Christians in response.

00:08:36.000 This is absolutely dire.

00:08:37.620 What we're seeing unfold in Britain is Islamist sectarianism 0.92

00:08:41.120 and the threat of violence is so great from the Islamist Caliphate in Britain

00:08:44.800 that the police have only one hand to play,

00:08:47.140 which is to enforce segregation.

00:08:49.260 This strategy is destined to bring about conflict and unrest.

00:08:51.880 And I definitely agree with that last part there.

00:08:54.480 What wrong is he?

00:08:55.620 Yeah, that by enforcing segregation,

00:08:58.180 all it does is deepen the sectarianism, basically.

00:09:02.580 Well, segregation only works when they have reached a critical mass.

00:09:07.120 Segregation only works when the violent group 0.98

00:09:09.520 you're looking to segregate from the others is small.

00:09:13.520 And also that they want to be...

00:09:14.420 Once they reach a critical mass and they are the majority,

00:09:17.220 you can't do that anymore.

00:09:18.980 So you need to nip it in the bud.

00:09:20.540 You need to fix it.

00:09:22.140 Now.

00:09:22.760 It's not like Muslims are necessarily known

00:09:24.760 for not wanting to spread Islam either through violent means.

00:09:27.780 It's sort of written very explicitly in the Quran, isn't it?

00:09:30.720 And played out in Middle Eastern politics all the time.

00:09:33.760 It's fundamentally a proselytising religion. 0.52

00:09:37.440 There's the in-group and the out-group, the kafir. 1.00

00:09:40.020 Absolutely, yeah.

00:09:41.020 So by segregation, what it's basically doing

00:09:43.940 is tying people's hands while the Muslims 1.00

00:09:46.140 basically increase power in Britain.

00:09:48.880 I must say that was a very strong statement from Nick there.

00:09:51.880 A number of times, it's mostly tongue-in-cheek.

00:09:55.820 It's mostly friendly jibing at Nick and the UKIPers 0.85

00:09:59.460 for being civ-nats and stuff.

00:10:01.440 But they are.

00:10:01.840 But he also does say pretty base stuff quite regularly as well

00:10:05.660 to give him his dues.

00:10:06.980 To give him his dues. 0.86

00:10:08.460 It does take some balls to say some of the things I've seen him saying. 0.94

00:10:11.940 Still civ-nats, not enough for me. 0.87

00:10:13.180 But that statement, for example, pretty strong.

00:10:17.180 Good on him.

00:10:18.720 Like, he could have pulled his punches much more.

00:10:21.940 He's just said it as it is there.

00:10:24.600 So credit for that.

00:10:25.860 And it's also not exactly a small thing

00:10:28.000 to walk through Whitechapel either.

00:10:29.820 That is inviting trouble on yourselves.

00:10:32.560 And although the police shouldn't have stopped them,

00:10:35.400 they were right to say that there probably would have been serious violence.

00:10:39.400 Probably, yeah. 0.83

00:10:40.300 Muslims can't help themselves. 1.00

00:10:42.300 The police's job is to enforce the law. 0.50

00:10:44.220 They should have been there to enforce the law.

00:10:45.940 I agree.

00:10:46.400 They should have allowed it to continue,

00:10:48.260 allowed it to go ahead.

00:10:50.000 And then those breaking the law

00:10:51.380 come down on them like a ton of bricks.

00:10:55.800 And then we can all report on it.

00:10:56.880 And then, oh, they can't do that, can they?

00:10:58.660 Because that would expose the client class.

00:11:01.800 And it's not like the police haven't got the resources.

00:11:03.800 If there's some football game,

00:11:06.820 West Ham play Millwall in the FA Cup or something,

00:11:08.980 oh, the police suddenly turn out mounted police

00:11:11.080 thousands and thousands of cops

00:11:13.100 making sure the away fans don't kick off

00:11:15.920 or the home fans kick off against the away fans, whatever.

00:11:18.440 Yeah, suddenly the cops have got thousands of guys

00:11:20.420 to line the streets to and from the station or whatever.

00:11:23.760 Well, they had enough...

00:11:24.500 But not for this.

00:11:25.320 Not for Nick Tenconi and the UKippers.

00:11:26.920 No, no, no, no.

00:11:27.400 You just can't do it.

00:11:28.440 They had enough police for the Epping protest, didn't they?

00:11:32.080 Right.

00:11:32.580 The police there all the bloody time.

00:11:34.840 Even some spare resources enough

00:11:38.240 to shuttle in some counter-protesters.

00:11:41.900 So it's not exactly like hard-up Met.

00:11:44.300 It'd be like some silly little game,

00:11:45.780 like QPR play Crystal Palace or whatever.

00:11:48.080 Suddenly thousands of cops.

00:11:49.860 It's obviously a politically motivated decision.

00:11:52.680 Yeah, obviously.

00:11:52.800 So their protest went ahead without any problems anyway,

00:11:56.320 just in a different location.

00:11:58.520 But the interesting thing is

00:12:00.220 the site of the original protest

00:12:02.320 had an interesting turnout of people.

00:12:05.760 You might notice before I've even played this video,

00:12:07.960 the so-called gentleman in the background there,

00:12:10.940 one is wearing a motorcycle helmet,

00:12:13.680 many are covering their face all in black.

00:12:16.280 Sort of suggests they're looking for trouble, doesn't it?

00:12:18.760 If they're concealing their identities

00:12:20.300 and all dressed in black

00:12:21.300 so they can't be recognised as easily,

00:12:24.060 sort of suggests that they're expecting mass violence

00:12:26.880 and were prepared for it

00:12:28.240 and that's why they've turned out, isn't it?

00:12:31.040 It's funny.

00:12:32.080 When patriotic alternative people used to,

00:12:35.840 they don't even do it anymore,

00:12:36.560 but when they used to cover their face,

00:12:37.920 that's paramilitary, that's terrorist,

00:12:39.860 that's terrifying.

00:12:41.580 When Antifar do it,

00:12:42.320 it's just no one says anything.

00:12:44.340 Well, these are Muslims.

00:12:45.620 Oh, okay.

00:12:45.960 They're not necessarily Antifar.

00:12:46.320 Oh, sorry.

00:12:47.040 Right, yeah.

00:12:47.620 Oh, right. 0.98

00:12:48.020 When a Muslim mob covers their face, 0.99

00:12:49.920 don't mention it, 0.98

00:12:50.640 don't notice it.

00:12:52.300 Okay.

00:12:53.160 All right, okay.

00:12:54.440 Fine.

00:12:57.700 Yeah.

00:12:58.440 It all ends in the terrible secretarian violence,

00:13:01.680 doesn't it?

00:13:02.380 It's inevitable at this point.

00:13:04.140 Obviously.

00:13:05.360 Let's listen to this for a little bit.

00:13:07.320 What's going on, my people?

00:13:08.600 As you can see,

00:13:09.600 I'm live and direct

00:13:10.600 with all the brothers behind me.

00:13:12.600 It's the beginning of the turnout.

00:13:14.200 What, a few hundred of the brothers?

00:13:16.240 Everyone's ready.

00:13:17.440 Not for violence or hate.

00:13:19.300 Sure.

00:13:19.740 They're here to stand ground

00:13:21.060 on our own area,

00:13:22.600 which is Tower Hamlets.

00:13:24.700 Is that your area, is it?

00:13:26.300 I don't remember Tower Hamlets

00:13:27.780 being built by Muslims.

00:13:29.460 Oh.

00:13:30.100 Strange, isn't it?

00:13:30.940 Those arches traditionally, um...

00:13:33.140 That Islamic architecture.

00:13:35.120 Is it?

00:13:35.420 What?

00:13:36.300 I don't remember an act of parliament

00:13:37.920 ceding that Tower Hamlets

00:13:39.860 to anyone else.

00:13:40.940 I don't remember.

00:13:41.300 I don't recall that.

00:13:42.220 Currency, do they?

00:13:43.740 They exchange in Tower Hamlets,

00:13:46.620 the Islamic area.

00:13:47.740 They trade and barter

00:13:49.320 and they don't even use currency.

00:13:50.800 I wonder what the lefto people, 0.98

00:13:52.760 someone like Owen Jones,

00:13:53.480 what do they really think

00:13:54.840 deep down?

00:13:55.080 We'll be getting to that.

00:13:56.020 Oh, do we?

00:13:56.680 Yeah.

00:13:56.960 Okay, all right, cool, good.

00:13:58.340 There's a very interesting exchange

00:13:59.700 between the Islamic left

00:14:01.800 and the ideological left

00:14:03.620 that I wanted to have a look at

00:14:05.900 quickly before we ended.

00:14:06.900 So, there are some more videos here.

00:14:10.860 It's much of the same thing.

00:14:12.940 There's masked men hanging about.

00:14:14.580 They're also the usual 1.00

00:14:15.540 left-wing idiots as well. 1.00

00:14:18.020 Stand up to racism over there 1.00

00:14:19.680 with their identical placards.

00:14:22.040 Clearly an organic movement

00:14:23.180 of people that are definitely

00:14:24.620 not bussed in to do this sort of thing.

00:14:27.060 Probably by the state.

00:14:28.980 But, uh...

00:14:30.060 Yes.

00:14:31.560 Interesting also that the crowds

00:14:33.060 segregated themselves

00:14:34.400 from one another.

00:14:35.540 Like, the Muslims didn't want 1.00

00:14:36.620 to stand next to the leftists,

00:14:38.280 which, you know,

00:14:38.860 is the most reasonable thing

00:14:39.860 they've done so far.

00:14:41.460 You know, especially downwind of them.

00:14:44.100 But, there are more here.

00:14:46.820 And this one, I'm going to play the audio.

00:14:48.420 It's probably going to be a bit loud,

00:14:49.820 but, um...

00:14:51.060 It wasn't for the architecture

00:15:07.900 of the buildings in the background.

00:15:09.120 You wouldn't know

00:15:10.260 that that was London, would you?

00:15:12.780 Yeah.

00:15:13.520 The foreign flags.

00:15:14.420 There was Palestinian and Bangladeshi flags there.

00:15:17.160 Letting off flares,

00:15:18.720 chanting Allahu Akbar, masked men.

00:15:21.060 Owl Streets.

00:15:21.940 A mixture of Owl Streets.

00:15:23.940 A dirge of Owl Streets

00:15:26.000 and Al-Aru Akbar.

00:15:27.480 Mm.

00:15:28.560 Great.

00:15:29.160 Thanks, Blair.

00:15:29.980 It's not the remix we wanted, really.

00:15:31.280 Thanks, Cameron.

00:15:33.020 Thanks for this.

00:15:34.060 And Boris.

00:15:34.760 Don't forget Boris.

00:15:35.540 All of them.

00:15:35.940 All of them since Blair.

00:15:36.880 Mm.

00:15:37.240 All of them since bloody Major.

00:15:40.640 There are some more here.

00:15:42.060 This one was very interesting.

00:15:44.980 There's no need for that.

00:15:46.120 We're on the same side, bro.

00:15:47.320 No, we're not.

00:15:48.020 Yes, we are, bro.

00:15:48.800 No.

00:15:51.060 No, we're not.

00:15:54.440 Very revealing, isn't it,

00:15:55.740 that the Muslims see themselves as separate from the left,

00:15:59.060 even though the left are bending over backwards for them.

00:16:01.540 And I don't blame them,

00:16:02.940 because who wants to be associated with people

00:16:05.580 who've basically failed in life

00:16:07.000 and blame everyone but themselves?

00:16:08.380 That's basically what those stand-up-to-racism people are, 0.99

00:16:11.400 the most weird-looking losers ever to grace Britain, 0.97

00:16:16.920 at least the homegrown people. 0.99

00:16:19.960 And, yeah, of course they don't want to be affiliated with you.

00:16:23.220 As far as they're concerned, you're unbelievers. 0.98

00:16:25.940 You're just as deserving of it as the UKIP protesters.

00:16:29.980 Well...

00:16:30.520 That they're protesting against.

00:16:33.000 Well, protesting.

00:16:33.400 I would interject ever so slightly and say they do, actually.

00:16:37.480 They do want to be associated with them,

00:16:39.040 so far as it is useful. 1.00

00:16:40.980 They are useful idiots of them, yes. 1.00

00:16:43.140 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:43.420 But I was going to get to that,

00:16:44.960 because there's an interesting reaction, 1.00

00:16:48.320 speaking of useful idiots. 0.98

00:16:49.820 It has been deleted, 1.00

00:16:52.020 but this was from Adna Hussain,

00:16:55.140 who is an MP,

00:16:56.980 and he said,

00:16:58.180 I've copied some of this down,

00:17:00.020 and he had a little interaction with Owen Jones,

00:17:01.800 and I'm going to sort of title this

00:17:05.640 The Pragmatic Muslim. 1.00

00:17:07.280 He's a Blackburn MP, by the way.

00:17:09.080 Obviously, we've come at quite a Muslim area,

00:17:11.540 even though it need not be. 0.98

00:17:13.540 Versus an ideological lunatic in Owen Jones. 0.79

00:17:16.600 And he says, 0.91

00:17:17.740 The average Brit, black, white, or brown,

00:17:20.460 just wants to live peacefully,

00:17:21.680 coexist with their neighbours,

00:17:22.920 and live a decent life with dignity.

00:17:24.460 The vast majority of Brits

00:17:25.440 do not want Nazis crusading through our streets,

00:17:28.180 nor equally the absurd counter-demonstrators 0.82

00:17:30.720 calm down.

00:17:32.340 So he's saying,

00:17:33.140 he understands that this sort of thing,

00:17:35.800 those videos I showed you both.

00:17:37.640 Was that Adnan Hussain?

00:17:38.760 Yes.

00:17:39.220 Can you read the first line again real quick?

00:17:40.840 The average Brit, black, white, or brown,

00:17:42.920 just wants to live peacefully, coexist...

00:17:44.420 Don't believe you.

00:17:45.080 Don't believe that.

00:17:46.220 No, I don't believe that.

00:17:46.960 No, of course not.

00:17:47.680 They're also not British. 0.99

00:17:48.320 No.

00:17:49.120 And they don't want to live peacefully.

00:17:51.100 No, if history shows us anything,

00:17:53.180 from Morocco to Algeria to Indonesia,

00:17:56.820 no, they don't want to.

00:17:57.560 They're not interested in that.

00:17:59.000 Islam and the Hadiths and the Koran

00:18:00.740 are not about that.

00:18:04.240 No.

00:18:04.560 The example of the life of Muhammad

00:18:06.360 is not about living peacefully

00:18:08.560 with the non-believers.

00:18:09.880 It's obviously trying to pull the wool

00:18:11.440 over people's eyes.

00:18:12.660 Yeah, obviously.

00:18:12.700 And trying to be like,

00:18:14.120 well, you know,

00:18:15.180 we're not as bad as people make us out to be.

00:18:16.920 Those extremists,

00:18:17.800 those people going out

00:18:18.660 and, you know, doing things,

00:18:20.400 ignore the fact that we broadly support them.

00:18:23.180 We're just not doing it ourselves.

00:18:24.840 But we're entirely different to that.

00:18:27.720 And...

00:18:28.080 So, real quick, say,

00:18:28.900 imagine if you're a Muslim 0.95

00:18:30.040 and you're one of the marchers

00:18:31.480 and the stand-up to fascism people

00:18:35.080 who you can only imagine are socialists,

00:18:38.540 so you can only imagine

00:18:39.540 are either full-blown atheists

00:18:41.120 or atheist adjacent.

00:18:43.480 That's an anathema to you as a Muslim. 1.00

00:18:45.800 They're not even Christians, right? 0.97

00:18:47.280 They're not even people of the book. 0.99

00:18:50.120 They're terrible in the eyes of a Muslim. 1.00

00:18:52.860 Marxist socialists and communists 0.99

00:18:54.540 in Islamic countries

00:18:55.560 have also caused lots of conflicts,

00:18:57.240 haven't they?

00:18:58.180 And the Muslims do have a long memory 1.00

00:19:00.420 for this sort of thing.

00:19:01.220 They're not going to forget that,

00:19:02.160 wait a minute,

00:19:02.540 these are the people

00:19:03.160 that caused us a lot of problems

00:19:04.440 in our own countries.

00:19:06.460 It's not like they're isolated from that.

00:19:08.920 And so they know

00:19:10.040 that they have to use them

00:19:11.440 as a vehicle towards political power,

00:19:13.640 but they don't like them, obviously.

00:19:17.540 But I just thought it was interesting

00:19:18.700 that he recognises this

00:19:20.000 and he's trying to calm, you know,

00:19:22.260 the temperature

00:19:22.840 and pull wool over people's eyes 0.96

00:19:24.460 and say, listen, you know,

00:19:25.740 stop bringing it to people's attention

00:19:27.720 that we're actually quite hostile

00:19:29.280 to the native population.

00:19:31.980 And then Owen Jones comes along

00:19:33.220 and says,

00:19:34.260 do you think the anti-fascists

00:19:35.860 who mobilised at Cable Street

00:19:37.280 were equally absurd to the fascists?

00:19:40.540 And of course, Cable Street

00:19:41.300 is a story of the left

00:19:43.480 attacking the police at Cable Street.

00:19:46.100 There was meant to be, you know,

00:19:48.520 a march with Oswald Mosley leading it,

00:19:50.900 but they didn't really turn up.

00:19:52.520 And so the left just attacked the police.

00:19:54.280 And in fact,

00:19:55.260 I think they held a few police officers hostage,

00:19:58.420 didn't they?

00:19:59.280 That whole day was mad.

00:20:02.580 And it was just leftists,

00:20:04.420 communists,

00:20:05.180 Marxists

00:20:05.840 of various stripes

00:20:07.520 going berserk.

00:20:09.840 Yeah.

00:20:10.380 But it's been repainted.

00:20:11.400 The revisionists,

00:20:12.740 the commie traitor revisionists

00:20:14.100 have made out

00:20:14.600 that it was some glorious thing

00:20:16.000 to stop fascism.

00:20:17.980 Mosley and his mob 0.73

00:20:18.800 just didn't even do anything that day.

00:20:21.460 People said,

00:20:22.400 look how the indigenous population, 0.84

00:20:25.020 certainly not foreigners,

00:20:27.140 turned out against fascism that day.

00:20:30.840 And it was like,

00:20:31.300 well, about a week later,

00:20:32.360 Mosley and his guys did march to

00:20:33.940 into a massive support.

00:20:36.780 So the whole narrative,

00:20:38.200 the whole leftist narrative

00:20:39.080 around Cable Street 0.96

00:20:40.040 is liars, 0.99

00:20:42.420 liars upon liars upon liars. 0.98

00:20:43.660 And it's people like Owen Jones 0.98

00:20:45.420 that will always bring it up.

00:20:46.840 Oh, Cable Street. 0.96

00:20:48.880 It's ridiculous. 0.97

00:20:49.580 It's the same kind of rhetoric 0.97

00:20:50.720 with Enoch Powell as well.

00:20:52.400 So these people,

00:20:53.000 they're hugely popular.

00:20:54.480 They're always like,

00:20:54.880 oh, Cable Street,

00:20:56.640 Enoch Powell.

00:20:57.260 It's a thing like January the 6th.

00:20:59.520 The actual reality is

00:21:00.740 almost the exact opposite

00:21:02.200 of what the left

00:21:02.780 want you to think happened.

00:21:04.060 Yeah.

00:21:05.180 That's Cable Street.

00:21:06.180 So he responded,

00:21:07.280 peaceful protest by all means.

00:21:08.980 I admit my initial post

00:21:10.000 wasn't articulated clearly,

00:21:11.660 but some of the imagery

00:21:12.820 coming out of yesterday's

00:21:13.880 counter-protest

00:21:14.620 is exacerbating a situation

00:21:16.100 which is already

00:21:16.760 extremely volatile.

00:21:18.140 So he understands that,

00:21:19.540 listen,

00:21:20.460 having lots of masked men

00:21:22.360 chanting Allahu Akbar,

00:21:23.640 waving foreign flags,

00:21:25.420 scares people.

00:21:27.380 And rightfully so,

00:21:28.120 it should scare you

00:21:28.900 because I don't think

00:21:30.280 many of those people

00:21:31.100 would hesitate

00:21:31.760 if they're able to get away with it

00:21:33.020 with being violent

00:21:33.700 towards the native population.

00:21:35.200 It's sort of why

00:21:35.840 they were there

00:21:36.200 in the first place.

00:21:37.540 So he's basically trying

00:21:39.320 to smooth things over,

00:21:41.580 do a bit of PR

00:21:42.380 so his people

00:21:43.920 can take over the country.

00:21:46.540 That's what's going on here.

00:21:48.500 And then Owen Jones says,

00:21:49.980 equating anti-fascists

00:21:51.260 and fascists 0.67

00:21:51.960 is really gruesome stuff.

00:21:53.400 And the argument

00:21:53.900 you're making here

00:21:54.860 was deployed at Cable Street

00:21:56.200 counter-demonstrators. 1.00

00:21:57.280 He's just an idiot. 1.00

00:21:58.360 Shut up. 1.00

00:21:58.620 He doesn't understand 1.00

00:21:59.780 the situation he's in here.

00:22:01.640 He's so possessed

00:22:02.920 by ideology

00:22:03.700 whereas

00:22:04.700 the Muslim here,

00:22:06.840 the MP,

00:22:07.700 is being quite pragmatic.

00:22:09.160 He understands the situation,

00:22:10.400 he's trying to navigate it. 1.00

00:22:11.540 Owen's an idiot. 1.00

00:22:12.580 They're obviously, 1.00

00:22:13.480 the left,

00:22:13.980 if they're like Owen,

00:22:15.060 are going to be outmaneuvered

00:22:16.320 by Islam 0.76

00:22:16.880 and their entire movement

00:22:18.740 is going to be taken over

00:22:19.560 by them.

00:22:20.180 If this is,

00:22:21.060 it's already started.

00:22:22.920 Greens,

00:22:23.160 the Islamo-Communist Alliance,

00:22:25.020 Jezbalah,

00:22:25.820 the Islamo-Communist Alliance.

00:22:26.940 They already are.

00:22:28.080 But it's not quite

00:22:30.240 bloomed yet,

00:22:31.400 has it?

00:22:31.860 They've not fully taken over.

00:22:33.480 Jezbalah,

00:22:34.220 I mean,

00:22:34.860 Jeremy Corbyn's

00:22:36.400 first appearances

00:22:37.060 were all

00:22:37.700 with Adnan Hussein

00:22:39.760 solely around

00:22:40.680 Islamists,

00:22:41.940 basically,

00:22:42.340 like Islamic people.

00:22:43.660 So,

00:22:43.920 I mean,

00:22:44.120 it's getting there.

00:22:44.920 I mean,

00:22:46.540 we're only a few steps

00:22:48.540 away from it.

00:22:49.420 Surely,

00:22:50.440 Owen Jones

00:22:51.120 is suffering

00:22:51.660 from some cognitive dissonance,

00:22:53.540 though.

00:22:54.160 Because,

00:22:54.800 despite everything,

00:22:55.560 I mean,

00:22:55.760 I loathe the guy, 0.99

00:22:57.420 but he's not actually stupid. 1.00

00:23:00.520 Like, 0.96

00:23:00.740 truly,

00:23:01.240 truly,

00:23:02.060 like, 1.00

00:23:02.960 the mind of an 11-year-old stupid. 1.00

00:23:05.040 He's not that. 1.00

00:23:05.600 He isn't that.

00:23:06.440 But you can be blinded

00:23:07.280 by your ideology,

00:23:08.280 right?

00:23:08.500 Yeah.

00:23:08.780 I think that's what's going on.

00:23:09.780 One example I thought of is,

00:23:11.500 if you remember a few years ago,

00:23:12.700 in America,

00:23:13.720 there was a Muslim, 0.69

00:23:14.880 an Islamist shot up, 0.99

00:23:15.600 a gay nightclub.

00:23:16.440 Was it in Orlando? 0.81

00:23:18.120 Sounds about right.

00:23:18.880 Anyway,

00:23:19.280 and I remember,

00:23:20.420 I remember this quite clearly,

00:23:21.480 Owen Jones was on some show,

00:23:22.700 and they were trying to discuss

00:23:24.260 about the issues

00:23:25.500 that Islam have 1.00

00:23:26.260 with homosexuality, 0.97

00:23:27.480 and he rage quit. 0.86

00:23:29.600 He rage quit,

00:23:30.300 because they painted him

00:23:30.920 into a corner,

00:23:31.560 easily,

00:23:32.240 saying,

00:23:32.960 look,

00:23:33.280 Islam's got profound issues 1.00

00:23:34.740 with homosexuality, 0.98

00:23:35.740 and he just couldn't deal with it,

00:23:38.420 just could not,

00:23:39.040 or refute,

00:23:39.360 or didn't want to,

00:23:40.260 either,

00:23:40.620 either or,

00:23:41.600 just took his mic off

00:23:42.700 and walked away.

00:23:43.660 I mean,

00:23:44.960 at what point,

00:23:45.840 at what point will someone

00:23:47.060 like Owen Jones,

00:23:48.380 no matter how possessed

00:23:49.280 they are by ideology,

00:23:51.020 will have to accept

00:23:54.260 that the alliance

00:23:56.260 between socialism,

00:23:57.900 leftism,

00:23:58.700 whatever you want to say,

00:23:59.840 Marxism,

00:24:00.360 whatever it is,

00:24:01.760 Trotskyism,

00:24:02.520 and Islam,

00:24:04.560 they're not bedfellows.

00:24:06.660 Islam isn't interested, 1.00

00:24:07.820 ultimately,

00:24:08.420 in that.

00:24:10.240 I wonder if ever,

00:24:11.180 whether they'll ever admit it,

00:24:12.180 or Owen Jones is the type of person

00:24:13.820 that will go to his grave,

00:24:15.800 insisting that we're on the same side,

00:24:18.640 bruv.

00:24:18.880 I don't know.

00:24:20.820 I mean...

00:24:21.140 When actual bloodshed

00:24:22.160 is on,

00:24:23.360 is rife in the streets,

00:24:25.120 I would imagine he will then

00:24:26.420 realise,

00:24:28.920 that's,

00:24:29.660 I mean,

00:24:29.940 if all the examples

00:24:32.260 throughout history

00:24:32.880 is not enough,

00:24:34.980 you know,

00:24:35.280 to wake someone like him up,

00:24:37.240 then yeah,

00:24:37.700 it would have to be

00:24:38.480 actual bloodshed 0.98

00:24:40.540 in his face,

00:24:41.800 at his feet.

00:24:42.760 But he would blame

00:24:43.700 right-wing agitation,

00:24:45.860 the absorbing caused

00:24:46.620 by the right.

00:24:47.160 Oh yeah,

00:24:47.700 true.

00:24:47.900 I probably would,

00:24:48.800 I almost certainly would,

00:24:49.920 yeah.

00:24:50.720 So,

00:24:51.700 it carries on,

00:24:52.960 he just says,

00:24:53.540 I'm not here to cater

00:24:54.260 to people's hurt feelings,

00:24:55.560 this is Adnan Hussein,

00:24:57.020 lives are on the line

00:24:57.680 and I wish to find

00:24:58.260 the actual solution.

00:24:59.500 I may be wrong,

00:25:00.280 but I'm very entitled

00:25:01.320 to my opinion

00:25:01.920 and I know

00:25:02.500 many like me

00:25:03.640 are feeling the same.

00:25:05.300 Why are lives on the line?

00:25:06.180 What,

00:25:06.460 you keep,

00:25:06.860 you keep us

00:25:07.400 going to start 1.00

00:25:07.880 killing people. 1.00

00:25:09.580 Yeah, 0.99

00:25:09.740 exactly,

00:25:10.400 who's lives?

00:25:11.040 What are you on about?

00:25:12.180 What?

00:25:13.300 It's just that

00:25:13.840 it's upsetting

00:25:14.580 their infiltration

00:25:17.180 of Britain,

00:25:17.940 isn't it?

00:25:18.300 Right.

00:25:18.480 That's what's going on

00:25:19.460 is our life,

00:25:21.060 our cushy life

00:25:22.020 in Britain,

00:25:22.680 living off of the backs

00:25:23.680 of people.

00:25:24.700 You built it

00:25:25.220 for their ancestors

00:25:26.020 only for it to be subverted.

00:25:28.120 That's what it is.

00:25:29.220 Not like Nick Tenconi's

00:25:30.500 leading brown shirt,

00:25:32.880 billy club wielding

00:25:34.020 paramilitary,

00:25:35.120 is it?

00:25:35.380 No Templar knights 0.87

00:25:36.480 there,

00:25:36.880 for goodness sake.

00:25:37.820 It did have a few

00:25:38.380 Templar flags.

00:25:39.200 I know,

00:25:39.440 I did like that.

00:25:42.020 And then he says,

00:25:43.200 he goes on and on

00:25:44.180 and he's like,

00:25:44.620 I've been against

00:25:45.840 the Islamophobic menace

00:25:46.880 posed by the far right,

00:25:48.220 blah,

00:25:48.440 blah,

00:25:48.560 blah,

00:25:48.720 blah,

00:25:48.840 blah.

00:25:49.260 Who cares?

00:25:50.720 And then one final thing

00:25:51.880 I wanted to talk about

00:25:52.760 was that there was

00:25:54.680 a little spat.

00:25:55.780 His smug face.

00:25:56.760 I know. 1.00

00:25:57.300 Stupid turd. 1.00

00:25:58.780 Oh yeah, 1.00

00:25:59.180 it carries on.

00:26:00.240 Sorry.

00:26:00.680 I don't know why

00:26:01.040 those ones are there.

00:26:02.520 But there was a little spat

00:26:03.820 between Nick Tenconi

00:26:05.040 and Narendra Kerr.

00:26:06.620 Why not?

00:26:07.600 Why not?

00:26:08.540 One of your favourites.

00:26:11.020 And he was basically saying

00:26:13.940 that she always dresses

00:26:14.840 her modestly

00:26:15.400 and she needs to grow up

00:26:16.460 and things like that.

00:26:17.520 We're a bit pressed for time

00:26:18.320 so I'm not going to

00:26:18.800 play the clip.

00:26:21.480 All right then.

00:26:22.320 Would you like to hear it?

00:26:23.060 Sure,

00:26:23.280 why not?

00:26:23.640 Why not?

00:26:24.880 Dunk on Narendra real quick.

00:26:26.300 She is trained.

00:26:27.640 She knows exactly

00:26:28.380 what she's doing.

00:26:29.660 That's why she dresses 1.00

00:26:30.520 the way she dresses.

00:26:32.240 That's why she's happy

00:26:33.840 to parade herself

00:26:36.020 in what she wears

00:26:37.340 with the full face

00:26:38.100 of makeup.

00:26:39.320 I don't know

00:26:40.100 who's more vile.

00:26:41.480 Her

00:26:41.920 or Carol Vorderman.

00:26:43.540 Do you notice

00:26:43.820 they both deploy

00:26:44.680 the same tactics?

00:26:46.100 They both want

00:26:47.200 to be 20 years younger

00:26:48.580 than they actually are.

00:26:49.900 Do you notice this?

00:26:50.800 Oh, I notice it all right.

00:26:52.160 Oh, I notice it all right.

00:26:54.320 You and I know

00:26:56.380 what's going on, Dan,

00:26:57.520 so I'll say it

00:26:58.160 without saying it,

00:26:59.100 but I actually

00:26:59.900 had to Google their ages.

00:27:01.440 It's time to grow up.

00:27:02.920 I mean,

00:27:03.100 you're not 25,

00:27:04.840 you're not 35 anymore,

00:27:06.120 Narendra.

00:27:06.640 It's really, 0.96

00:27:07.440 it's disgusting. 0.99

00:27:09.060 You're a... 0.99

00:27:09.420 Yeah, I mean,

00:27:13.040 yeah.

00:27:14.020 Narendra Currie,

00:27:14.820 she's not even Muslim, 1.00

00:27:15.740 is she?

00:27:15.860 She's Sikh,

00:27:16.400 I believe.

00:27:17.420 Yeah, I don't know.

00:27:18.500 Yeah, she's Sikh.

00:27:19.860 Okay.

00:27:20.140 So, anyway,

00:27:22.800 but yeah,

00:27:23.700 the point is

00:27:24.160 she's a classic example

00:27:25.440 of like a,

00:27:26.140 basically a paid shill.

00:27:28.600 I don't believe

00:27:29.540 she's got any real value set

00:27:31.760 other than my career,

00:27:34.780 Narendra,

00:27:35.280 my career is 0.62

00:27:36.220 in just stabbing at nativists. 0.78

00:27:39.760 Yeah.

00:27:40.420 Just that,

00:27:41.200 from any angle,

00:27:42.520 doesn't matter how outrageous

00:27:43.520 or absurd the claim is.

00:27:45.340 She does it relentlessly, 0.87

00:27:46.480 doesn't she?

00:27:46.600 Oh, good, yeah.

00:27:47.200 It doesn't matter how many times

00:27:48.120 she has to bring up

00:27:48.900 false revisionist history

00:27:51.280 about the empire

00:27:52.140 or the Atlantic slave trade

00:27:54.140 or any of that

00:27:55.280 or like per capita

00:27:57.140 statistics.

00:27:59.800 It doesn't matter.

00:28:00.580 She's getting paid 1.00

00:28:01.200 to essentially

00:28:02.280 peddle falsehoods

00:28:03.560 and that's it.

00:28:04.560 Despicable,

00:28:05.200 despicable thing.

00:28:05.980 You'll be pleased to hear

00:28:06.700 that they're trying

00:28:07.160 to get her arrested.

00:28:08.100 Oh, are they?

00:28:08.840 Yeah.

00:28:09.180 What for?

00:28:09.860 Well, she actually done.

00:28:10.700 She breached the Section 14

00:28:12.220 placed on the Stand Up to Racism

00:28:13.940 counter-protest

00:28:15.660 because she turned up

00:28:16.820 to the UKIP protest

00:28:17.900 and of course she always

00:28:19.260 is turning up

00:28:20.600 to these Stand Up to Racism

00:28:21.680 protests.

00:28:22.360 I don't know whether

00:28:22.840 she's actually formally affiliated

00:28:24.140 but I wouldn't be surprised.

00:28:26.060 I wasn't able to find out.

00:28:28.640 But the Met Police

00:28:29.200 didn't arrest her

00:28:30.240 and so they're trying

00:28:30.900 to push

00:28:31.480 to get her arrested

00:28:33.120 because that is

00:28:34.140 an arrestable offence

00:28:35.060 and they rightfully point out

00:28:36.200 had they entered Tower Hamlets

00:28:38.200 they would have been arrested,

00:28:39.860 the UKIP protesters.

00:28:41.140 That's a point.

00:28:41.500 And Nick here says

00:28:44.360 the Met must arrest

00:28:45.260 Narinder to prove 0.96

00:28:46.060 they're not two-tiered

00:28:47.360 and I think that that's

00:28:48.920 actually quite a fair point

00:28:50.640 that, well hang on a minute,

00:28:53.240 you know,

00:28:53.580 if a right-wing protest

00:28:56.700 has these conditions

00:28:58.600 placed on it,

00:28:59.260 how come a prominent person

00:29:00.720 like this

00:29:01.320 basically able to...

00:29:02.500 An actually known agitator.

00:29:03.620 Exactly.

00:29:04.260 Is able to get away with it

00:29:05.540 and turn up.

00:29:06.540 There's a video here

00:29:08.000 that I'm not going to play

00:29:08.640 the audio of.

00:29:09.920 My feelings on that is

00:29:11.400 within...

00:29:12.180 Oh, sorry, go on.

00:29:13.100 I'm just going to

00:29:13.620 play it in the background.

00:29:16.680 Within the current paradigm

00:29:18.200 what Nick Tenconi said there

00:29:19.880 is right.

00:29:21.240 But I in fact think

00:29:22.560 the whole thing

00:29:23.160 is just a bit

00:29:23.800 thought police.

00:29:25.900 Like you hold

00:29:26.480 these political opinions

00:29:27.500 so you can't go

00:29:28.440 here or there.

00:29:30.800 Wouldn't it be better

00:29:31.460 to just let the chips

00:29:32.500 fall where they may?

00:29:33.260 Everyone can go everywhere.

00:29:34.580 See what happens then.

00:29:35.420 I think in a country

00:29:36.040 where it was largely

00:29:37.280 us Brits

00:29:38.280 and maybe some

00:29:39.820 European continentals

00:29:41.400 thrown in

00:29:41.920 that would be fine

00:29:43.000 wouldn't it?

00:29:43.640 That would work

00:29:44.260 because we would

00:29:45.040 follow the rules largely

00:29:46.780 and things would

00:29:48.040 remain civil

00:29:48.680 but we don't live

00:29:49.420 in that world anymore

00:29:50.340 do we?

00:29:51.520 And that's...

00:29:52.620 And unfortunately

00:29:53.960 you sort of have to...

00:29:55.480 It's sort of like

00:29:56.360 Lee Kuan Yew

00:29:57.440 isn't it?

00:29:57.740 Of Singapore

00:29:58.100 when you rule over

00:29:59.480 lots of minorities

00:30:00.300 you've got to use

00:30:01.440 very strong authority

00:30:02.900 to succeed

00:30:03.780 and that's why

00:30:06.000 you've got this

00:30:06.760 this style of policing

00:30:07.860 going on.

00:30:08.760 I mean look at

00:30:09.120 the Austro-Hungarian

00:30:10.080 Empire

00:30:10.520 look at the Ottoman 1.00

00:30:11.360 Empire

00:30:11.800 look at Yugoslavia 1.00

00:30:12.840 yeah

00:30:13.640 the only way

00:30:14.460 you can hold that

00:30:15.220 down is with

00:30:16.040 authoritarianism

00:30:17.100 the only hope

00:30:18.500 is that.

00:30:20.620 But

00:30:21.100 this is

00:30:22.500 I think

00:30:22.980 the first example

00:30:23.880 where it's obvious

00:30:25.220 that there is

00:30:25.920 an Islamic

00:30:26.380 no-go zone

00:30:27.200 because

00:30:27.940 you know

00:30:28.580 native British people

00:30:29.860 and you know

00:30:31.400 British patriots

00:30:32.620 are not able

00:30:33.520 to protest

00:30:34.140 in an area

00:30:34.820 of Britain

00:30:35.840 because it's

00:30:37.280 dangerous for them

00:30:38.440 and this is

00:30:39.820 unprecedented really

00:30:41.220 this is the first time

00:30:42.180 I can think of

00:30:43.020 in British history

00:30:43.940 where

00:30:44.840 this sort of

00:30:45.820 situation

00:30:46.340 has happened

00:30:47.120 and so it's

00:30:48.120 undeniable now

00:30:48.960 that there is

00:30:49.480 this

00:30:49.840 no-go zone

00:30:50.860 in Whitechapel

00:30:52.520 in a part of London

00:30:53.480 where

00:30:54.700 if you're a native

00:30:55.660 British person

00:30:56.300 you don't have

00:30:57.040 the right to protest

00:30:57.740 there anymore

00:30:58.280 because

00:30:58.780 of course

00:30:59.800 it's dangerous for you

00:31:01.000 according to the police

00:31:02.260 and it is dangerous

00:31:03.320 for you

00:31:03.760 but I don't think

00:31:04.620 that should

00:31:05.160 stop you

00:31:06.180 from being able

00:31:06.680 to protest there

00:31:07.680 it's for the police

00:31:08.720 to actually police it

00:31:10.520 for once

00:31:11.160 it's a bit more

00:31:15.040 than just Whitechapel

00:31:15.720 Whitechapel's a relatively

00:31:16.740 small area

00:31:17.600 it is yeah

00:31:18.620 there'll be travel

00:31:19.300 banks

00:31:19.500 home office

00:31:21.100 travel banks

00:31:22.680 the Whitechapel

00:31:24.000 the Habsification says 0.85

00:31:25.040 you boys better start

00:31:25.960 doing your duty

00:31:26.700 and getting married

00:31:27.420 and have 6 to 10 kids

00:31:28.600 up those demographic numbers

00:31:29.900 working on it

00:31:31.080 yeah working on it

00:31:31.780 working on it

00:31:32.660 GLE777 says

00:31:34.660 crazy how Owen

00:31:35.780 is getting outsmarted

00:31:36.640 by inbreds

00:31:37.840 yeah

00:31:40.420 that's a random name

00:31:42.980 says

00:31:43.360 when he says

00:31:44.580 I'm here with all my brothers

00:31:45.980 I believe him

00:31:46.900 after all

00:31:47.440 his nation

00:31:48.540 is known as

00:31:49.300 the capital of incest

00:31:50.360 they're literally

00:31:51.380 his brothers

00:31:51.920 the hundreds of them

00:31:53.740 SC Penny1 says

00:31:57.120 I'll never forgive Nate

00:31:58.680 for recommending

00:31:59.320 Alien Earth

00:32:00.120 I enjoyed it actually

00:32:01.220 I only recommended it

00:32:02.140 up until episode 5

00:32:03.640 and then it fell apart

00:32:04.360 guys calm down

00:32:05.440 it was ok

00:32:06.220 no it was ok

00:32:07.960 overall it's actually

00:32:09.580 a terrible show

00:32:10.300 and I've reviewed it

00:32:11.620 as a whole season

00:32:12.600 terrible

00:32:13.280 bloody awful

00:32:14.140 just completely

00:32:15.460 wasted potential

00:32:16.460 it definitely did

00:32:18.340 the most jarring

00:32:20.200 thing of all

00:32:20.780 was the cutting

00:32:22.100 to the music

00:32:22.680 at the end

00:32:23.140 that really didn't

00:32:24.080 fit whatsoever

00:32:24.640 even though it was

00:32:25.180 music I liked

00:32:25.840 to me it was genre

00:32:27.440 it was like

00:32:27.860 what did I actually

00:32:28.480 want to be

00:32:29.760 was it jumping around

00:32:30.760 was it a thought

00:32:33.960 experiment on the

00:32:34.820 human experience

00:32:35.520 what was it

00:32:36.380 no actual focus

00:32:37.980 because it was

00:32:38.480 the alien universe

00:32:39.420 I sort of enjoyed it

00:32:41.020 at a certain baseline

00:32:42.120 higher than I would

00:32:43.020 something else

00:32:43.860 yeah which is

00:32:44.460 understandable

00:32:44.880 and then they 0.96

00:32:45.420 kept cock teasing 0.97

00:32:47.140 with the eyeball 0.99

00:32:48.320 I mean

00:32:49.120 I know

00:32:49.720 what I let down

00:32:50.400 I wanted to hear it

00:32:51.080 talk

00:32:51.500 anyway

00:32:53.140 I did one text

00:32:54.460 so I don't know

00:32:54.980 what any of that means

00:32:55.760 I've got a clap back

00:32:58.340 on SC Penny

00:32:59.060 okay

00:33:02.040 Dreadnought Logan says

00:33:03.420 Bo you should say

00:33:04.460 sorry to Lard

00:33:05.420 for comparing it

00:33:06.340 with Mike

00:33:06.820 where did you

00:33:08.880 where did you

00:33:10.120 compare Mike

00:33:11.040 it must have been

00:33:11.980 it must have been

00:33:12.560 on

00:33:12.860 there's that little

00:33:14.180 channel isn't there

00:33:14.840 what's it called

00:33:15.300 again

00:33:15.620 State of Politics

00:33:17.000 oh yeah

00:33:17.440 the State of Politics

00:33:18.120 the State of Politics

00:33:19.060 on YouTube

00:33:19.760 you would have been

00:33:20.500 on that channel

00:33:21.100 I wonder who's on

00:33:21.680 that channel

00:33:23.180 I couldn't tell you

00:33:24.740 who's on that channel 0.86

00:33:25.500 two handsome devils 0.62

00:33:26.940 whose names

00:33:27.520 I can't recall right now

00:33:28.580 I wouldn't go that far 0.98

00:33:29.260 well no homo 1.00

00:33:29.700 that's mine and Nate's channel

00:33:33.920 State of Politics

00:33:34.480 check it out

00:33:34.940 a bit uncensored

00:33:36.240 it could be much ruder

00:33:37.200 dropped some F and C bombs

00:33:38.960 on there as well

00:33:39.520 if that's your thing

00:33:40.600 especially about Mike

00:33:41.520 I don't remember actually

00:33:42.700 but I must have called

00:33:43.600 Mike Graham

00:33:44.240 yeah

00:33:45.280 fat tub of lard

00:33:46.760 or something

00:33:47.060 I can't remember

00:33:47.480 Luca

00:33:48.560 I came in today

00:33:50.100 and Luca was like

00:33:50.740 I really enjoyed that

00:33:51.480 it was just 10 minutes

00:33:52.200 of you

00:33:52.600 going hard on Mike Graham

00:33:55.260 I was going to say

00:33:57.700 that's pretty tame

00:33:58.360 for you both

00:33:58.980 yeah

00:33:59.700 oh no

00:34:01.080 probably dropped

00:34:01.700 an F bomb in there

00:34:02.440 as well 0.97

00:34:02.780 and a C bomb 0.66

00:34:03.580 yeah

00:34:04.120 I think we both did

00:34:05.820 to be fair

00:34:07.020 so I should say

00:34:08.780 sorry to lard

00:34:09.620 lard is useful

00:34:11.320 for something

00:34:11.940 also I got a new job

00:34:13.640 as a city bus driver

00:34:14.640 28.82 hurley

00:34:17.100 I don't know

00:34:17.400 what that last

00:34:17.860 hourly

00:34:18.200 yeah 28 pounds

00:34:19.420 82 pence hourly

00:34:20.180 well

00:34:20.540 well done

00:34:21.120 oh right

00:34:21.520 okay

00:34:21.800 oh that's his wage hourly

00:34:22.820 that's not bad

00:34:23.620 well well done

00:34:24.780 for getting a new job

00:34:25.560 anyone getting a new job

00:34:26.800 well done

00:34:27.100 congrats

00:34:27.560 might sack this in

00:34:28.480 and become a bus driver

00:34:29.260 by the sounds of it

00:34:30.520 Gimlio

00:34:32.160 Gloin

00:34:33.280 Gloin

00:34:33.940 Gloin

00:34:34.480 oh is that

00:34:35.260 Lord of the Rings

00:34:36.200 Lord of the Rings

00:34:36.620 okay

00:34:36.880 said

00:34:38.000 at this point

00:34:39.000 I'm afraid

00:34:39.520 there has to be

00:34:40.260 some escalation

00:34:40.960 before the left

00:34:41.540 comes to their senses

00:34:42.420 yeah that's what I said

00:34:44.320 mm-hmm

00:34:45.300 I mean

00:34:45.900 if at all yeah

00:34:47.140 but if they do

00:34:48.660 it's gonna have to get worse

00:34:49.880 that's certainly true

00:34:51.120 much much worse

00:34:52.080 okay

00:34:55.340 when will China 0.60

00:34:57.540 cross the Rubicon though

00:34:58.620 okay

00:35:00.820 so

00:35:03.340 let's talk about China

00:35:04.680 real quick

00:35:05.180 China

00:35:06.260 whether they are

00:35:08.880 merely

00:35:09.560 a strategic challenge

00:35:11.840 or whether

00:35:14.720 are a full-blown

00:35:15.620 threat

00:35:16.120 to the West

00:35:17.020 to Britain

00:35:17.580 to the United States

00:35:18.580 to the way of life

00:35:20.140 that isn't

00:35:20.980 CCP aligned

00:35:22.240 whether there is

00:35:23.620 in fact

00:35:23.960 a Cold War

00:35:24.740 really

00:35:25.140 going on

00:35:25.640 between China

00:35:26.380 and its ideological enemies

00:35:27.980 um

00:35:29.360 I would say

00:35:30.280 there is

00:35:30.740 and increasingly so

00:35:32.780 it seems to me

00:35:34.840 or anyone

00:35:35.760 that's honest

00:35:36.220 with themselves

00:35:36.880 that they are

00:35:38.600 sort of

00:35:38.980 dialing up

00:35:39.700 their aggression

00:35:40.880 at least in terms of

00:35:41.800 at least in terms of

00:35:42.540 rhetoric and diplomacy

00:35:43.540 at least towards Britain

00:35:45.360 they're dialing it up

00:35:47.220 I mean

00:35:47.600 I would say

00:35:50.300 they've become

00:35:50.740 full-blown piss takers

00:35:51.880 if I'm honest

00:35:52.920 yeah

00:35:53.180 I'd agree with that

00:35:54.180 taking the Michael

00:35:55.720 now

00:35:56.140 they're actually

00:35:57.680 they threaten

00:35:58.420 they're threatening

00:35:58.980 us

00:35:59.700 again diplomatically

00:36:00.800 rhetorically

00:36:02.280 publicly though

00:36:03.540 publicly though

00:36:04.080 yeah right

00:36:04.440 right yeah

00:36:04.820 do what we want now

00:36:06.160 make your foreign policy

00:36:07.740 this or that

00:36:08.500 build this or that

00:36:09.900 there or there

00:36:10.540 or we'll cut off

00:36:12.360 the money

00:36:13.200 effectively

00:36:14.660 um

00:36:16.380 well

00:36:18.180 so

00:36:18.580 here's the latest thing

00:36:19.800 or a few days

00:36:20.400 a few days ago

00:36:21.200 um

00:36:21.740 in a telegraph

00:36:22.300 there you go

00:36:22.660 China vows to make 0.99

00:36:23.840 Starmer bow to Taiwan 0.95

00:36:25.180 ownership demands

00:36:26.500 sorry who are you

00:36:29.560 yeah

00:36:30.400 who are we

00:36:31.480 what are you doing

00:36:32.360 yeah

00:36:33.120 who do you think

00:36:34.540 you're talking to

00:36:35.300 well

00:36:36.380 I think

00:36:37.060 probably someone in their pocket

00:36:38.160 yeah right

00:36:38.940 what has happened here

00:36:39.920 is that

00:36:40.500 China has been allowed 0.98

00:36:41.580 to get lots of leverage

00:36:42.960 like they own a decent amount

00:36:44.060 of our water infrastructure

00:36:45.280 for example

00:36:45.960 and lots of other

00:36:47.120 infrastructural things

00:36:48.280 and if you notice

00:36:49.700 you see Chinese tourists

00:36:50.720 for some reason

00:36:51.360 they're really interested

00:36:52.320 in our infrastructure

00:36:53.080 for some reason

00:36:53.940 always taking photographs

00:36:55.800 and videos

00:36:56.500 and that sort of thing

00:36:58.400 it's almost like

00:37:00.360 there's some sort of attempt

00:37:01.840 to have leverage

00:37:03.100 to make us do

00:37:04.180 what they want

00:37:04.760 hmm

00:37:05.300 almost just though

00:37:06.920 that were the case

00:37:07.620 hmm

00:37:08.180 definitely not like

00:37:09.980 they've got

00:37:10.480 a proxy

00:37:11.460 who now effectively

00:37:13.020 owns the Chagos Islands

00:37:14.000 either

00:37:14.320 a strategic challenge

00:37:16.920 that's all they are

00:37:18.900 anyway

00:37:21.080 so

00:37:21.720 the whole story

00:37:23.000 I won't go into

00:37:23.480 so much detail

00:37:24.120 because there's

00:37:24.680 you know

00:37:25.200 I could do

00:37:25.980 should really do

00:37:26.560 hours and hours

00:37:27.140 of content

00:37:27.620 about

00:37:28.120 Formosa

00:37:29.100 and Chiang Kai-shek

00:37:30.060 and Taiwan

00:37:30.840 and the Chinese 0.83

00:37:32.000 in fact

00:37:32.700 on my own channel

00:37:33.740 History Bro

00:37:34.240 one of the earliest

00:37:35.580 long

00:37:36.600 series I did

00:37:38.720 was about

00:37:39.200 the life and career

00:37:40.160 of Mao

00:37:40.720 Chairman Mao Zedong

00:37:42.400 and of course

00:37:43.660 in that

00:37:44.100 I talked all about

00:37:45.160 the civil war

00:37:46.940 the Chinese civil war

00:37:47.720 that they had

00:37:48.320 direct before

00:37:49.260 and after

00:37:50.160 World War II

00:37:50.860 and ultimately

00:37:52.420 of course

00:37:53.080 the Chinese

00:37:53.860 communists

00:37:55.060 win that

00:37:55.720 and the nationalists

00:37:57.020 or really anyone

00:37:58.440 that the communists

00:37:59.000 didn't like

00:37:59.540 effectively fled

00:38:01.080 to the island

00:38:02.320 of Formosa

00:38:02.960 as it was then

00:38:03.620 now Taiwan

00:38:04.220 and that's

00:38:05.620 sort of been

00:38:06.100 the case ever since

00:38:06.800 well it has been

00:38:07.460 the case ever since

00:38:08.360 and the United States

00:38:10.240 all during the Cold War

00:38:11.580 has always insisted

00:38:12.840 like Japan 0.52

00:38:14.960 like South Korea

00:38:15.940 like West Germany

00:38:17.400 like a whole number

00:38:18.060 of places

00:38:18.520 all Western Europe really

00:38:19.720 we got your back

00:38:21.160 the Americans say

00:38:22.340 you know

00:38:22.660 we won't let the communists

00:38:24.200 whether it's Soviet

00:38:25.280 or CCP

00:38:26.020 we won't let them invade 0.69

00:38:27.460 we'll go to full-blown war

00:38:28.540 if we have to

00:38:29.560 we'll do a Korean war 1.00

00:38:31.120 on your behalf

00:38:31.800 if we have to

00:38:32.480 and that's been the case

00:38:34.020 all the way up to today

00:38:35.540 but all throughout

00:38:37.060 those decades

00:38:38.000 China has always 1.00

00:38:39.820 Beijing has always said

00:38:41.220 no that island there

00:38:43.240 Taiwan

00:38:43.760 that's just part of China

00:38:45.060 the same way they

00:38:45.640 deal with and talk about Tibet

00:38:47.360 there's no such thing as Tibet

00:38:49.140 that's just a bit of China

00:38:50.760 that's just our country

00:38:53.380 that's what they say

00:38:54.500 that's what

00:38:54.840 that's their position

00:38:55.540 and always has been

00:38:56.540 so

00:38:57.220 it's not like this is new

00:38:58.800 it's not like suddenly

00:38:59.760 the Chinese are claiming

00:39:00.760 Taiwan out of nowhere

00:39:02.380 CCP out of nowhere

00:39:04.840 steel chair

00:39:05.920 no no

00:39:06.520 they've always said it

00:39:08.320 but now

00:39:10.920 we're

00:39:11.640 in the

00:39:13.080 mid 2020s

00:39:14.360 now

00:39:14.720 aren't we

00:39:15.220 we're in a position

00:39:15.940 where

00:39:16.360 the Chinese economy

00:39:17.500 genuinely rivals

00:39:18.660 the United States

00:39:20.280 it's industrial capacity

00:39:21.820 genuinely rivals it

00:39:23.820 but only in a

00:39:25.760 limited sense

00:39:26.680 the US is still

00:39:27.460 quite far ahead

00:39:29.320 but the Chinese 0.89

00:39:30.240 are catching up

00:39:31.140 and it's

00:39:31.580 it's a point of concern

00:39:33.120 for the Americans

00:39:33.740 in that

00:39:34.480 obviously China

00:39:36.000 has a much much larger

00:39:37.400 labour force

00:39:38.240 than they do

00:39:38.900 there are lots of things

00:39:40.020 that are both to China's

00:39:41.400 advantage and disadvantage

00:39:42.640 that are different

00:39:43.520 and there's this uncertainty

00:39:45.160 of well

00:39:45.860 at the minute

00:39:46.680 the US is

00:39:47.560 world hegemon

00:39:48.240 but it could be China

00:39:49.340 and you know

00:39:51.060 given their

00:39:51.620 relationship with China

00:39:52.700 if China does become

00:39:54.320 hegemonic over the world

00:39:55.820 well things aren't

00:39:56.640 going to look good

00:39:57.200 for the United States

00:39:58.180 and their allies

00:39:59.080 which means us

00:39:59.900 the thing about China

00:40:00.960 and its economy

00:40:01.920 versus the States 0.69

00:40:03.900 is

00:40:05.340 and just

00:40:06.600 just as a global

00:40:07.320 power and a force

00:40:08.120 which I don't

00:40:08.800 I don't know if you're

00:40:09.400 ever going to mention

00:40:09.920 this in your

00:40:10.380 segment Bo

00:40:11.140 but you know

00:40:12.420 China as an

00:40:13.940 authoritarian regime

00:40:15.040 is one unified

00:40:16.980 focus

00:40:18.040 sole focus

00:40:19.560 by decree

00:40:20.940 they demand

00:40:21.700 this is going to happen

00:40:22.420 we're going to do this

00:40:23.200 so

00:40:24.180 in terms of

00:40:25.980 sort of strategy

00:40:26.820 and battles

00:40:27.360 and things like that

00:40:28.120 and just

00:40:28.460 where they move

00:40:30.080 their sort of

00:40:31.480 economic focus

00:40:32.400 and drive

00:40:33.240 it's just

00:40:34.420 it's

00:40:35.200 very very myopic

00:40:37.960 it's very singular

00:40:38.800 right

00:40:39.580 whereas America

00:40:40.640 has spent

00:40:41.140 god knows how long

00:40:41.960 now

00:40:42.140 at least a decade

00:40:43.540 quibbling over

00:40:44.560 what woman is 1.00

00:40:45.800 well

00:40:46.440 China is 0.85

00:40:47.840 92.5%

00:40:49.320 ethnically

00:40:50.100 Han Chinese

00:40:50.920 and all of their

00:40:51.660 leadership is

00:40:52.260 Han Chinese

00:40:53.100 yeah

00:40:53.560 so

00:40:54.000 China is basically 0.91

00:40:55.320 a dictatorship

00:40:56.280 of the Han 0.95

00:40:57.000 over a small

00:40:57.880 number of minorities

00:40:58.620 political forces

00:40:59.280 either

00:40:59.600 no

00:41:00.020 because they've

00:41:00.540 crushed them all

00:41:01.160 yeah exactly

00:41:01.900 but this is what I mean

00:41:02.920 like that

00:41:03.360 that is

00:41:03.900 that's a point of concern

00:41:05.300 no matter what

00:41:06.640 an economy size

00:41:07.460 versus the States 0.69

00:41:08.840 their unity is their strength

00:41:10.180 I'm going to flip

00:41:10.680 the diversity thing

00:41:11.700 no because their

00:41:12.660 honor culture

00:41:13.460 that isn't

00:41:14.280 quibbling amongst

00:41:14.940 themselves

00:41:15.360 largely speaking

00:41:16.460 it's going to make

00:41:17.400 them more formidable

00:41:18.120 by having more

00:41:19.300 disparate ethnicities

00:41:20.220 and groups

00:41:20.600 it makes you

00:41:21.060 weaker as a country

00:41:22.020 yeah I mean

00:41:23.520 I've been having

00:41:24.100 this argument

00:41:24.600 on Twitter

00:41:25.100 the last couple

00:41:25.620 of days

00:41:26.140 I say argument

00:41:27.900 it's actually

00:41:28.380 really interesting

00:41:29.460 debate

00:41:30.020 with random

00:41:31.700 people on Twitter

00:41:32.400 I think it's very

00:41:33.120 I'm very very

00:41:33.780 interested in it

00:41:34.580 if America and China 0.75

00:41:36.040 did have a full

00:41:36.720 blown conventional war

00:41:37.620 let's take nukes

00:41:38.380 off the table

00:41:38.940 let's just say

00:41:39.740 they don't have

00:41:40.240 a nuclear exchange

00:41:40.960 how would it go

00:41:42.560 especially if it

00:41:43.300 lasted for any

00:41:43.940 amount of time

00:41:44.720 and it is

00:41:46.880 interesting

00:41:47.360 you know like

00:41:48.120 who controls

00:41:49.020 the semiconductors

00:41:50.480 in the world

00:41:52.020 right

00:41:52.840 it's mainly

00:41:54.720 Taiwan

00:41:55.600 South Korea

00:41:56.800 US has been 0.61

00:41:57.980 trying to shift it

00:41:58.800 allies of the

00:42:00.220 United States

00:42:00.700 and not China

00:42:01.340 very explicitly so

00:42:02.340 but then like

00:42:03.740 who manufactures

00:42:05.660 the most steel

00:42:06.360 in the world

00:42:07.040 China by a long 0.92

00:42:07.920 long way

00:42:08.280 but who manufactures

00:42:09.960 the most armoured

00:42:10.700 plate

00:42:11.020 the United States

00:42:12.020 by a very very

00:42:12.720 long way

00:42:13.180 who's got the

00:42:13.940 biggest economy

00:42:14.680 well just in

00:42:15.340 straight up terms

00:42:16.080 it's kind of a

00:42:16.620 parity

00:42:17.040 who's got the

00:42:18.200 biggest air force

00:42:18.880 well the United States

00:42:19.700 who's got the

00:42:20.080 biggest navy

00:42:20.540 the biggest submarine

00:42:21.160 programme

00:42:21.620 who controls space

00:42:22.280 well all the United

00:42:23.040 States

00:42:23.400 but who could switch

00:42:24.860 their industrial

00:42:26.020 capacity quicker

00:42:27.160 to pumping out

00:42:28.660 insane volumes

00:42:29.880 of shells

00:42:31.040 probably China

00:42:33.100 probably

00:42:33.460 so it's actually

00:42:35.300 quite interesting

00:42:35.980 I did say on

00:42:37.760 Twitter I explicitly

00:42:38.400 said this is not

00:42:38.980 what this segment

00:42:39.420 was about but this

00:42:40.020 is a fascinating

00:42:40.500 thing

00:42:40.820 I suspect

00:42:42.800 as long as it

00:42:43.240 didn't last

00:42:43.740 months and months

00:42:44.280 and months and

00:42:44.660 years I suspect

00:42:45.780 America would 0.93

00:42:46.400 dominate it

00:42:47.040 I would agree

00:42:48.020 I suspect they

00:42:48.420 would get their

00:42:49.000 carrier groups

00:42:49.760 over to the

00:42:50.600 eastern Pacific

00:42:52.180 without China 1.00

00:42:52.920 being able to

00:42:53.380 do much about

00:42:53.960 it and game

00:42:55.880 over but then

00:42:57.140 who knows you

00:42:58.140 can point to the

00:42:58.780 fact that even

00:43:00.040 though United

00:43:00.520 States can win

00:43:02.560 a hot war

00:43:03.340 a conventional

00:43:03.800 hot war that

00:43:04.360 they're very very

00:43:05.120 good at that

00:43:05.740 they are very

00:43:06.840 very good at that

00:43:07.660 but then winning

00:43:09.320 the peace

00:43:09.740 afterwards

00:43:10.200 they're kind of

00:43:12.280 terrible at that

00:43:12.820 right

00:43:13.120 but anyway to

00:43:14.380 get back to the

00:43:14.760 point you was

00:43:15.040 making about

00:43:15.420 homogeneity of

00:43:16.520 China versus 0.94

00:43:17.260 the diversity

00:43:18.940 of the United

00:43:19.340 States

00:43:19.620 well if you

00:43:21.080 look back at

00:43:21.640 the 30s and

00:43:22.900 the 40s when

00:43:23.740 Germany and

00:43:24.840 Japan declared 0.61

00:43:25.560 war on the

00:43:25.900 United States

00:43:26.440 back then they

00:43:27.100 still had

00:43:27.440 segregation

00:43:28.020 in America

00:43:29.480 it was still

00:43:29.900 a fully segregated

00:43:30.920 society

00:43:31.420 and all sorts

00:43:33.080 of you could

00:43:34.180 point to all

00:43:34.780 sorts of data

00:43:35.560 points of that

00:43:36.300 America is a 0.61

00:43:37.060 disparate

00:43:38.360 all the

00:43:38.960 different states

00:43:39.440 are almost like

00:43:39.980 different countries

00:43:40.900 and they won't be

00:43:41.960 able to pull

00:43:42.380 together and they

00:43:43.000 won't be able to

00:43:43.920 stomach large

00:43:45.260 casualty lists

00:43:46.080 all that was

00:43:46.980 wrong

00:43:47.220 America did 0.96

00:43:49.000 pull together

00:43:49.600 as one

00:43:50.300 and stomached

00:43:51.900 quite large

00:43:52.540 casualty lists

00:43:53.240 they did turn

00:43:53.960 their economy

00:43:54.480 into pumping out

00:43:56.020 like a liberty

00:43:56.680 ship every other

00:43:57.420 day or whatever

00:43:58.120 pumping out

00:43:59.340 dozens of

00:44:00.380 aircraft carriers

00:44:01.160 or whatever

00:44:01.560 making tens and

00:44:03.020 tens of thousands

00:44:03.680 of planes

00:44:04.220 they did do that

00:44:05.540 I mean we live

00:44:06.100 in a different

00:44:06.400 world now

00:44:06.900 and things

00:44:07.400 are more

00:44:07.720 okay

00:44:08.260 the point is

00:44:10.020 let's get back

00:44:10.500 to the topic

00:44:10.940 here

00:44:11.240 and Britain

00:44:12.940 and what China

00:44:13.700 is doing to

00:44:14.340 us and Keir

00:44:15.300 Starmer at the

00:44:15.860 moment

00:44:16.140 this headline

00:44:17.540 China warns

00:44:18.840 UK of diplomatic

00:44:19.900 rift unless

00:44:20.820 MP Starmer

00:44:21.880 backs claim

00:44:22.580 over Taiwan

00:44:23.280 so

00:44:23.520 blackmailing

00:44:25.040 but we're

00:44:25.360 bullying

00:44:25.760 that's definitely

00:44:27.660 sort of

00:44:28.120 that's quite

00:44:28.400 belligerent

00:44:29.120 like you don't

00:44:31.180 get to tell us

00:44:31.880 what our foreign

00:44:32.380 policy

00:44:32.540 well you do

00:44:32.940 if Starmer's

00:44:33.460 the Prime Minister

00:44:34.080 be in any

00:44:34.780 normal state

00:44:36.200 of events

00:44:38.420 if you had a

00:44:39.100 normal government

00:44:39.920 it's like that's

00:44:41.480 the absolute

00:44:41.900 bedrock of what

00:44:42.840 a government

00:44:43.280 is in some

00:44:44.160 ways

00:44:44.560 is that you

00:44:45.340 do have

00:44:45.820 autonomy

00:44:46.280 over your

00:44:47.220 domestic policy

00:44:47.960 and foreign

00:44:48.360 policy

00:44:48.800 a foreign 0.60

00:44:50.080 country doesn't

00:44:50.580 get to tell you

00:44:51.220 what your

00:44:51.520 foreign policy

00:44:52.180 is

00:44:52.560 that's the

00:44:53.180 essence of

00:44:53.720 being your

00:44:54.160 own sovereign

00:44:54.660 nation

00:44:55.160 it's interesting

00:44:56.500 though because

00:44:57.100 normally these

00:44:57.700 sorts of

00:44:58.020 conversations

00:44:58.560 and this

00:44:59.100 diplomatic

00:44:59.540 tussling goes

00:45:00.360 on behind

00:45:00.760 closed doors

00:45:01.420 and they

00:45:01.680 don't draw

00:45:02.060 attention

00:45:02.440 to it

00:45:02.780 publicly

00:45:03.180 it's interesting

00:45:04.260 that they're

00:45:04.700 making such

00:45:05.380 strong statements

00:45:06.140 public in a way

00:45:07.140 it's I don't

00:45:08.560 know whether

00:45:08.920 it's power

00:45:09.400 projection from

00:45:10.120 China which 0.70

00:45:10.700 seems the

00:45:11.100 most likely

00:45:11.800 or trying to

00:45:13.980 undermine Britain

00:45:15.060 on the national

00:45:15.560 stage because

00:45:16.120 those two

00:45:16.540 things although

00:45:17.000 related

00:45:17.560 are slightly

00:45:19.800 different

00:45:20.300 and of course

00:45:22.080 you know we're

00:45:22.660 quite a loyal

00:45:23.720 ally of the

00:45:24.420 United States

00:45:25.120 which China

00:45:26.380 sees as their

00:45:27.020 main enemy

00:45:28.200 really don't

00:45:28.820 they

00:45:29.020 yeah

00:45:29.800 yeah that's

00:45:30.260 the that's

00:45:31.140 actually the

00:45:31.440 point I made

00:45:32.140 on the

00:45:32.840 politics when

00:45:33.540 we spoke

00:45:33.860 about this

00:45:34.300 was that

00:45:36.240 these kind

00:45:37.420 of comments

00:45:37.960 being made

00:45:38.640 public to

00:45:39.700 me indicated

00:45:40.660 just what

00:45:42.760 we know

00:45:43.220 of Keir

00:45:44.120 Starmer

00:45:44.500 Labour

00:45:45.080 and the

00:45:46.480 like and

00:45:47.300 their sort

00:45:47.900 of dealings

00:45:48.320 with China

00:45:48.680 to me it

00:45:49.580 indicated that

00:45:50.100 actually they

00:45:51.020 had had

00:45:51.540 these discussions

00:45:52.360 behind closed

00:45:52.900 doors and

00:45:54.200 just my own

00:45:55.480 theory anyway is

00:45:56.400 that they're

00:45:56.680 making it public

00:45:57.340 to apply

00:45:58.000 pressure

00:45:58.480 very much

00:46:00.480 agree

00:46:00.720 cheeky

00:46:01.640 taking the 0.99

00:46:02.760 piss 0.84

00:46:03.120 really

00:46:04.500 yeah I

00:46:07.540 mean I

00:46:07.880 probably agree

00:46:08.680 that ambassadors

00:46:09.340 and diplomatic

00:46:10.080 back channels

00:46:10.720 and all that

00:46:11.200 sort of thing

00:46:11.600 go on sort

00:46:12.240 of constantly

00:46:12.780 don't they

00:46:13.260 and so for

00:46:14.120 the Chinese

00:46:14.560 is the Chinese

00:46:15.420 ambassador to

00:46:16.020 the UK

00:46:16.340 saying this

00:46:16.940 stuff

00:46:17.220 so it must

00:46:18.640 be with

00:46:19.280 it is a

00:46:20.020 very deliberate

00:46:21.080 decision from

00:46:22.140 them to do

00:46:22.720 this to say

00:46:23.360 this publicly

00:46:24.420 I feel like

00:46:25.380 maybe there's

00:46:25.920 an element of

00:46:26.580 it I don't

00:46:26.900 have to talk

00:46:27.300 about this for

00:46:27.660 too long but

00:46:28.120 maybe there's

00:46:28.560 the element

00:46:28.920 working into

00:46:29.600 this of the

00:46:30.480 recent spire

00:46:31.400 Chinese spire

00:46:32.240 scandal where

00:46:33.640 it seemed like

00:46:34.480 or it seems

00:46:35.320 almost certainly

00:46:35.800 the case that

00:46:36.220 our government

00:46:36.640 just completely

00:46:37.420 folded under

00:46:38.360 pressure from

00:46:40.240 the Chinese

00:46:40.840 to like just

00:46:41.820 put this thing

00:46:42.400 to bed 1.00

00:46:42.840 just kill it 1.00

00:46:44.020 and we did 1.00

00:46:45.200 so now they

00:46:46.640 think like a

00:46:47.360 bully or like

00:46:48.420 in prison 1.00

00:46:49.360 a prison bitch 1.00

00:46:50.440 like oh we 1.00

00:46:51.540 realise we can

00:46:52.240 put our thumb

00:46:52.780 on this dude

00:46:53.400 and he's going

00:46:53.780 to do what we

00:46:54.240 want so we

00:46:55.700 keep doing it

00:46:56.240 of course

00:46:56.600 like being

00:46:57.120 blackmailed

00:46:57.620 oh you

00:46:57.800 paid up

00:46:58.120 once

00:46:58.540 you weren't

00:47:00.020 able to

00:47:00.340 stand up for

00:47:00.760 yourself one

00:47:01.260 time so

00:47:02.120 we'll just

00:47:02.680 keep doing

00:47:03.140 it that's

00:47:03.920 how that

00:47:04.180 works

00:47:04.600 I feel like

00:47:05.860 this is a

00:47:06.220 continuation of

00:47:06.860 that they

00:47:07.680 realise that

00:47:08.200 they've got

00:47:08.660 like the

00:47:09.640 the whip

00:47:11.120 hand over

00:47:12.320 Starmer and

00:47:13.860 so push it as

00:47:14.500 far as you

00:47:14.800 can

00:47:15.100 classic commie

00:47:16.340 stuff of course

00:47:17.240 they push it

00:47:17.680 as far as

00:47:17.980 they can

00:47:18.360 they've got no

00:47:20.140 shame of course

00:47:21.380 they've got no

00:47:21.780 shame whatsoever

00:47:22.300 oh here the

00:47:23.200 Daily Mail

00:47:23.560 China threatens 0.99

00:47:24.880 Sir Keir Starmer

00:47:25.800 with breakdown

00:47:26.660 in diplomatic

00:47:27.360 links unless

00:47:28.400 Britain backs 0.91

00:47:29.120 Beijing over

00:47:30.200 owning Taiwan

00:47:30.840 so

00:47:31.220 so threatening

00:47:33.280 us over

00:47:34.700 our foreign

00:47:35.800 policy

00:47:36.300 it's literally

00:47:37.240 choose us

00:47:38.720 over the

00:47:39.400 states

00:47:39.760 that's

00:47:40.740 effectively what

00:47:41.600 it is

00:47:42.140 sort of

00:47:42.940 kind of boils

00:47:43.660 down to that

00:47:44.160 doesn't it

00:47:44.500 yeah

00:47:44.680 yeah it

00:47:45.560 really does

00:47:46.040 yeah

00:47:46.880 I imagine it

00:47:47.920 wouldn't go down

00:47:48.580 too well in

00:47:49.100 Washington if we

00:47:49.840 did that right

00:47:50.420 oh no

00:47:51.160 no way

00:47:52.620 I'm being

00:47:53.840 flippant of

00:47:54.560 course it

00:47:54.900 wouldn't

00:47:55.200 it would be

00:47:55.640 catastrophic

00:47:56.240 what tiny

00:47:57.080 remnant of

00:47:57.900 the special

00:47:58.520 relationship

00:47:59.060 if that ever

00:48:00.500 existed past

00:48:01.180 1945

00:48:01.620 yeah would be

00:48:03.900 absolutely gone

00:48:04.660 but I mean

00:48:07.220 it's been a

00:48:08.780 cornerstone of

00:48:09.460 not just the

00:48:09.980 United States

00:48:10.700 but all NATO

00:48:11.480 all sort of

00:48:12.180 western

00:48:12.620 policy to

00:48:14.480 sort of

00:48:15.300 defend these

00:48:17.120 certain places

00:48:17.680 against the

00:48:18.180 encroachment of

00:48:19.100 you know there

00:48:19.900 was British

00:48:20.540 troops in

00:48:21.140 Korea 0.61

00:48:22.520 during the

00:48:23.000 Korean War

00:48:23.500 with some

00:48:24.180 British special

00:48:24.780 forces in

00:48:25.220 Vietnam

00:48:25.500 for example

00:48:26.360 right

00:48:27.560 well if you

00:48:28.900 look at the

00:48:29.540 invasions of

00:48:30.140 Afghanistan and

00:48:31.460 Iraq

00:48:31.800 we were right

00:48:32.920 there with them

00:48:33.460 weren't we

00:48:34.160 we controlled

00:48:35.300 Basra

00:48:35.740 for a long

00:48:36.820 long time

00:48:37.260 right

00:48:37.520 we was there

00:48:38.300 in Kandahar

00:48:39.100 right

00:48:40.200 now that's how

00:48:41.180 the Chinese

00:48:41.820 how most

00:48:42.380 analysts and

00:48:42.940 almost certainly

00:48:43.400 right view it

00:48:44.060 is that it's not

00:48:44.800 that Britain is

00:48:45.400 any threat

00:48:46.360 to China

00:48:48.220 China on 0.94

00:48:48.900 sort of on

00:48:49.620 any level

00:48:50.180 but what we

00:48:50.820 are are a

00:48:51.860 key key ally

00:48:52.820 of the United

00:48:53.360 States

00:48:53.720 so if you

00:48:54.920 undermine us

00:48:55.940 damage us

00:48:57.200 in any way

00:48:58.000 at least by

00:48:59.820 proxy at least

00:49:00.520 indirectly

00:49:01.100 damages the

00:49:02.180 United States

00:49:02.740 undermines the

00:49:03.500 United States

00:49:04.140 right so

00:49:05.340 in those terms

00:49:06.860 and we do a lot

00:49:07.720 of business with

00:49:08.440 China we do 0.96

00:49:09.020 something in the

00:49:09.980 last year on

00:49:11.080 the order of

00:49:11.900 90 billion pounds

00:49:13.200 worth of trade

00:49:14.040 import and export

00:49:14.900 with China

00:49:15.900 a couple years

00:49:16.600 ago it was way

00:49:17.100 over 100 billion

00:49:17.980 so down a little

00:49:18.780 bit now but

00:49:19.560 still to us

00:49:20.860 that's a lot of

00:49:21.360 money to them

00:49:22.520 it's a drop in

00:49:22.920 the ocean right

00:49:23.420 but to us it's

00:49:24.180 quite a lot of

00:49:25.000 money and

00:49:25.660 they're using it

00:49:26.300 as leverage

00:49:26.600 obviously using

00:49:27.440 it as leverage

00:49:28.140 it's common sense

00:49:29.480 to do that

00:49:29.980 isn't it

00:49:30.620 if you're an 0.99

00:49:31.260 arsehole 1.00

00:49:31.720 all states do

00:49:34.340 that even

00:49:35.440 even Trump's

00:49:37.300 been doing that

00:49:37.800 with Britain and

00:49:38.740 Europe

00:49:39.000 yeah yeah no

00:49:40.540 but I mean if

00:49:41.320 I was if I was

00:49:42.440 Prime Minister I

00:49:43.460 just wouldn't

00:49:43.920 accept it's like

00:49:44.520 if someone tried

00:49:45.000 to blackmail me

00:49:45.620 over something

00:49:46.120 I'd be like

00:49:47.480 no no fine

00:49:48.440 then let's just

00:49:49.400 go full

00:49:50.180 full exposure

00:49:51.580 no I'm not

00:49:52.320 letting you

00:49:52.960 blackmail me

00:49:53.480 whatever the

00:49:53.960 dirt you've got

00:49:54.440 on me or 0.91

00:49:54.720 whatever I'll

00:49:55.140 just let the

00:49:55.520 whole world

00:49:55.820 know because

00:49:56.460 I'm not being

00:49:57.380 bullied and

00:49:57.840 blackmailed

00:49:58.360 that's not

00:49:58.880 going to happen

00:49:59.280 no no no

00:49:59.860 I'm not going

00:50:00.640 to say story

00:50:01.140 for something

00:50:01.640 that I'm not

00:50:02.040 sorry about

00:50:02.660 for example

00:50:03.180 this sort of

00:50:03.960 thing

00:50:04.180 Keir Starmer

00:50:04.600 should just be

00:50:05.100 oh no if you

00:50:05.680 want to break

00:50:06.040 all trade

00:50:06.400 relations

00:50:06.760 he's not

00:50:07.060 he won't do

00:50:07.580 this because 1.00

00:50:07.800 he's a coward 0.99

00:50:08.320 a moral and 1.00

00:50:09.640 political coward 1.00

00:50:10.340 and a traitor 1.00

00:50:11.900 but any

00:50:13.640 good prime

00:50:14.460 minister would

00:50:15.400 be like

00:50:15.880 no no no

00:50:16.320 if you need

00:50:16.600 to cut off

00:50:16.980 diplomatic relations

00:50:17.800 with us

00:50:18.080 China do 0.97

00:50:18.720 what you've

00:50:18.940 got to do

00:50:19.240 if you need

00:50:19.940 to cut off 0.99

00:50:20.320 all your

00:50:20.820 trade with

00:50:22.120 us do

00:50:22.940 what you've

00:50:23.160 got to do

00:50:23.400 but we're

00:50:23.920 going to set

00:50:24.280 our own

00:50:24.600 foreign policy

00:50:25.140 thank you

00:50:25.460 very much

00:50:25.860 now we're

00:50:26.700 going to

00:50:26.860 decide what

00:50:27.440 we think

00:50:27.820 about Taiwan

00:50:28.460 thank you

00:50:29.120 very much

00:50:29.520 but that's

00:50:30.740 not the

00:50:31.000 leaders we've

00:50:31.440 got so that

00:50:32.060 probably well

00:50:32.840 almost certainly

00:50:33.480 won't happen

00:50:34.020 I mean we'll

00:50:36.060 see if over

00:50:36.580 the coming

00:50:37.040 days weeks

00:50:38.960 months

00:50:39.360 I wonder

00:50:40.660 if we do

00:50:41.300 formally

00:50:41.780 under Keir

00:50:42.440 formally change

00:50:43.640 our foreign

00:50:44.540 policy towards

00:50:45.260 Taiwan

00:50:45.560 imagine if

00:50:46.080 that would be

00:50:46.680 so humiliating

00:50:47.400 if they came

00:50:47.860 out one day

00:50:48.340 the FCO

00:50:49.280 foreign

00:50:50.120 commonwealth

00:50:50.560 office come

00:50:51.000 out and say

00:50:51.420 we support

00:50:52.460 Beijing's

00:50:53.620 claim

00:50:54.340 I'd be very

00:50:55.260 surprised if

00:50:55.980 they did that

00:50:56.460 to be honest

00:50:57.000 yeah

00:50:57.340 so would I

00:50:58.200 well I don't

00:50:59.160 know if you

00:50:59.600 would though

00:51:00.000 I actually

00:51:00.620 don't think

00:51:00.940 I would

00:51:01.440 not with Keir

00:51:02.640 Starmer

00:51:03.020 I wouldn't

00:51:03.360 be surprised

00:51:04.160 the Chagos

00:51:05.180 Islands thing

00:51:05.800 yeah

00:51:06.320 I can't believe

00:51:08.300 Trump didn't

00:51:09.020 veto that

00:51:09.580 it was

00:51:09.740 mental

00:51:10.220 but yeah

00:51:11.440 Trump actually

00:51:12.380 ended up going

00:51:13.060 along with it

00:51:13.760 which I find

00:51:14.500 interesting

00:51:14.920 there must have

00:51:15.500 been something

00:51:15.940 more going on

00:51:16.780 that we weren't

00:51:17.760 well he wasn't

00:51:18.280 paying for it

00:51:18.860 was he

00:51:19.200 that's true as

00:51:20.100 well

00:51:20.360 yeah so again

00:51:23.800 so they're just

00:51:24.380 trying to put all

00:51:25.020 sorts of pressure

00:51:25.600 on us

00:51:26.260 of all people

00:51:27.000 like it really

00:51:27.600 matters

00:51:28.060 what the foreign 0.76

00:51:29.480 commonwealth office

00:51:30.540 position is on

00:51:32.040 Taiwan ultimately

00:51:32.740 I mean

00:51:33.100 ultimately when we

00:51:34.200 come down to

00:51:34.560 brass tacks

00:51:35.120 it doesn't really

00:51:35.620 matter

00:51:36.060 right

00:51:37.960 I can

00:51:39.840 you know

00:51:40.600 stick up

00:51:42.360 some sort of

00:51:42.940 defence for our

00:51:43.800 influence on foreign

00:51:44.540 powers in that

00:51:45.160 we're still one of

00:51:45.880 the top five

00:51:46.400 militaries in the

00:51:47.120 world

00:51:47.420 yeah we're one of

00:51:48.540 only what seven

00:51:49.080 nations that have

00:51:49.620 got nukes

00:51:50.680 that too

00:51:51.140 this matters

00:51:52.360 this gives you

00:51:53.260 negotiating power

00:51:54.240 even if you know

00:51:55.060 we're no longer

00:51:55.980 the British Empire

00:51:56.680 we still have

00:51:57.920 hard power

00:51:58.720 and I think

00:51:59.560 China respects

00:52:00.340 hard power a lot

00:52:01.060 more than soft power

00:52:01.940 there's only a very

00:52:03.240 small number of

00:52:04.000 countries in the

00:52:04.480 world that have

00:52:04.920 got nukes

00:52:05.520 submarine program

00:52:06.640 and like a half

00:52:08.440 decent intelligence

00:52:09.200 service and

00:52:11.200 half decent special

00:52:12.540 forces capability

00:52:13.520 small as it might

00:52:14.400 be

00:52:14.740 half decent air

00:52:16.460 there's only small

00:52:17.080 countries that have

00:52:18.280 got like cutting

00:52:19.600 edge fast jets

00:52:20.560 and stuff

00:52:21.240 obviously we haven't

00:52:21.740 got anywhere near the

00:52:22.300 number of China or

00:52:23.420 the United States

00:52:24.120 but you know

00:52:24.900 nonetheless

00:52:25.260 yeah only small

00:52:28.680 country very small

00:52:29.660 number of countries

00:52:30.160 got any aircraft

00:52:31.380 carriers but we're

00:52:32.400 one of those

00:52:33.020 our aircraft carriers

00:52:34.340 are a bit poop but

00:52:35.340 still we've got them

00:52:36.460 they count for

00:52:37.960 something

00:52:38.200 the Russia's 0.79

00:52:38.780 aircraft carrier

00:52:39.340 that's not hard

00:52:40.360 yeah right

00:52:41.040 better than the

00:52:41.520 French as well

00:52:42.100 they've got one

00:52:43.420 haven't they

00:52:43.820 I think the

00:52:44.980 French have got 1.00

00:52:45.360 one yeah I think

00:52:46.460 they have

00:52:47.120 they do yeah

00:52:47.820 yeah of course

00:52:49.820 the United States

00:52:50.340 have got like 20

00:52:51.140 and there's like 10

00:52:52.520 at sea at any

00:52:53.100 given moment

00:52:53.600 and they're huge

00:52:55.000 yeah they're big

00:52:55.820 yeah China's got 0.96

00:52:56.940 two or three is it

00:52:57.740 now anyway

00:52:58.900 all right what's

00:53:01.340 this headline

00:53:02.000 GB News

00:53:03.040 it belongs to

00:53:04.220 us

00:53:04.660 quote China

00:53:06.540 pressures Keir

00:53:07.140 Starmer to

00:53:07.620 support invasion

00:53:08.200 of Taiwan in

00:53:08.880 major war warning

00:53:09.680 makes it sound

00:53:10.380 like he wants

00:53:11.060 you know China

00:53:12.160 wants us to

00:53:13.220 invade on their

00:53:14.020 behalf

00:53:14.440 the way that's

00:53:15.880 worded

00:53:16.440 they probably

00:53:17.120 would do

00:53:17.440 if they could

00:53:18.060 yeah

00:53:18.720 use the royal

00:53:20.160 marines as

00:53:20.880 cannon fodder

00:53:21.380 if they could

00:53:21.880 Jesus

00:53:24.080 but yeah

00:53:25.920 this does mark

00:53:26.740 a bit of an

00:53:27.280 escalation as far

00:53:28.140 as I know

00:53:29.380 as I said

00:53:30.900 earlier it's

00:53:31.640 always been the

00:53:32.360 case since 1948

00:53:33.560 or whatever

00:53:33.980 that China 0.93

00:53:34.580 Beijing have

00:53:35.120 said Taiwan's

00:53:36.560 ours and we

00:53:37.980 still claim it

00:53:38.800 and like

00:53:39.600 Chiang Kai-shek's 0.75

00:53:40.940 regime there is

00:53:42.140 illegitimate but I

00:53:43.600 can't remember at

00:53:44.180 least in my

00:53:44.580 lifetime China ever

00:53:45.700 doing something like

00:53:46.540 this just coming

00:53:47.940 out and being

00:53:48.240 quite bellicose

00:53:49.340 it's border

00:53:50.600 bordering on real

00:53:52.040 saber rattling 0.65

00:53:52.780 it does feel like

00:53:54.780 they're dialing it

00:53:55.520 up

00:53:55.860 they've been

00:53:57.000 slowly dialing it

00:53:58.200 up haven't they

00:53:58.780 this is

00:53:59.560 we're reaching

00:54:00.120 this

00:54:00.300 but also

00:54:00.740 sorry

00:54:01.880 I was going to

00:54:04.540 point out that

00:54:05.220 if they were going

00:54:06.500 to invade they 0.84

00:54:07.300 wouldn't dial up the

00:54:08.380 rhetoric and let

00:54:08.980 the world know

00:54:09.860 right before

00:54:11.360 it'd be

00:54:12.020 at least in my

00:54:13.680 thinking it would

00:54:14.680 make more sense

00:54:15.460 to you know

00:54:17.660 keep your head

00:54:18.100 down be quiet for

00:54:18.840 a little bit and

00:54:19.260 then just suddenly

00:54:19.740 do it and take

00:54:20.380 the world by

00:54:20.820 surprise but

00:54:22.140 of course it

00:54:23.140 doesn't necessarily

00:54:23.960 have to mean that

00:54:24.900 does it

00:54:25.280 well if they're

00:54:26.140 going to embarrass

00:54:26.680 people

00:54:27.220 that's true

00:54:28.080 if the aim is to

00:54:29.020 embarrass as well

00:54:30.380 as I mean it

00:54:31.280 makes sense

00:54:31.880 it's not like it

00:54:33.200 wouldn't come as a

00:54:33.760 surprise to anyone

00:54:34.420 if they actually

00:54:35.120 did invade based on

00:54:36.760 their rhetoric over

00:54:37.740 the you know the

00:54:38.740 years right

00:54:39.420 I mean it would be

00:54:40.100 I guess it would be

00:54:41.080 shocking but it

00:54:42.180 wouldn't surprise you

00:54:43.380 that they don't

00:54:43.800 the surprise would be

00:54:44.600 shocked but you

00:54:45.540 wouldn't be like

00:54:45.980 oh I didn't I

00:54:47.500 never saw this

00:54:48.200 coming like they've

00:54:49.000 always said it's

00:54:49.620 theirs so

00:54:51.280 dialing up the

00:54:52.000 rhetoric I mean

00:54:53.440 it's multi-purpose

00:54:54.940 isn't it

00:54:55.420 I think if it

00:54:56.160 were to be a

00:54:56.520 surprise it'd be

00:54:57.100 like oh here

00:54:57.660 and now rather

00:54:58.320 than at some

00:54:59.580 point in the

00:55:00.120 future

00:55:00.440 yeah I think

00:55:01.280 well you're

00:55:03.000 absolutely right

00:55:03.780 like Machiavelli

00:55:04.820 tells us don't

00:55:05.720 declare war

00:55:06.280 don't let the

00:55:07.180 other side know

00:55:07.760 you're coming

00:55:08.320 yeah that's the

00:55:09.440 perfect strategy

00:55:11.180 but often in real

00:55:12.340 life doesn't really

00:55:12.840 work like if you

00:55:13.420 met if you

00:55:13.840 remember the

00:55:14.940 run-up to the

00:55:15.640 2003 invasion of

00:55:16.800 Iraq there was a 0.96

00:55:17.920 war of words between

00:55:18.880 George Bush and

00:55:19.660 Saddam for months 0.65

00:55:20.580 for months and

00:55:21.880 months and like

00:55:22.380 the Pentagon making

00:55:23.240 all sorts of

00:55:23.840 claims we're

00:55:24.600 coming for you

00:55:25.180 bro basically

00:55:26.100 because all of

00:55:27.340 this doesn't

00:55:27.780 happen in

00:55:28.220 isolation the

00:55:28.960 world's watching

00:55:29.600 isn't it and

00:55:30.540 you know if

00:55:31.480 China does capture 0.99

00:55:33.380 Taiwan and

00:55:34.140 control it they 1.00

00:55:35.280 do want to be

00:55:36.020 able to trade

00:55:37.420 with the world

00:55:37.920 still if they

00:55:38.640 have all of

00:55:39.040 their trade cut

00:55:39.700 off and they're

00:55:40.260 sanctioned by the

00:55:41.160 world it would be

00:55:42.280 a disaster for

00:55:43.000 them so they're

00:55:44.080 very conscious of

00:55:45.180 maintaining good

00:55:46.440 perceptions

00:55:46.880 internationally I

00:55:47.860 think

00:55:48.120 yeah yeah yeah

00:55:49.640 yeah well they

00:55:50.080 want to ultimately

00:55:50.720 be masters of the

00:55:52.600 universe don't they

00:55:53.220 there's no doubt

00:55:53.720 there's no not

00:55:54.260 really any doubt

00:55:54.760 about it here's a

00:55:55.840 headline here China

00:55:56.500 warns UK of

00:55:57.740 diplomatic retaliation

00:55:59.220 over Taiwan's 0.94

00:56:00.420 sovereignty support

00:56:01.740 all right then

00:56:03.400 yeah go poke your 0.82

00:56:04.540 diplomatic retaliation

00:56:05.740 yeah don't have an

00:56:06.880 embassy in London

00:56:07.540 then that's fine

00:56:08.140 that's fine with us

00:56:09.300 that'd be preferable

00:56:10.780 yeah that'd be nice

00:56:11.880 yeah that'd be nice

00:56:13.020 let's do that

00:56:14.280 freeze us up some

00:56:15.440 property to put some

00:56:16.180 migrants in 0.99

00:56:16.800 yeah

00:56:17.640 sorry we've got some

00:56:19.740 Eritreans we need to 0.99

00:56:20.720 find a bed for guys

00:56:21.780 Somalians yeah

00:56:22.960 that would be very

00:56:24.240 insulting to them

00:56:24.940 though um and yeah

00:56:27.880 okay and then just

00:56:28.840 something I've sort of

00:56:29.820 almost run out of time

00:56:30.600 but there's a whole

00:56:31.420 nother thing about

00:56:32.900 the uh I was going to

00:56:34.120 talk about about the

00:56:35.000 super embassy they want

00:56:36.240 to build and all the

00:56:37.760 concerns about that

00:56:39.300 um it's this building

00:56:41.620 here actually this

00:56:42.880 building used to be on

00:56:43.820 the mint the site of

00:56:45.180 the royal mint as big as

00:56:46.820 that building is that's

00:56:48.480 only a fraction of it

00:56:49.160 it's a giant complex

00:56:50.540 um of buildings it's

00:56:54.180 not on that one but

00:56:55.020 I'll find it in a

00:56:55.580 moment and the

00:56:56.500 Chinese want to make 1.00

00:56:57.240 look oh here it is

00:56:57.940 actually all of that

00:56:59.300 will be the Chinese 1.00

00:57:00.340 embassy wow if they

00:57:02.120 get their way this

00:57:03.620 whole thing oh and

00:57:04.800 underneath physically

00:57:06.300 underneath that site

00:57:07.520 are cables that run

00:57:09.240 from the city of

00:57:10.080 London ie where all the

00:57:12.900 trading goes on that

00:57:14.900 they could every people

00:57:16.280 in the know say the

00:57:17.140 Chinese could quite 1.00

00:57:17.960 easily do a um a

00:57:21.200 Venona style you know

00:57:24.140 project Venona where in

00:57:26.460 East Berlin in the 50s

00:57:28.120 the CIA tunneled under the

00:57:31.200 Soviet bit of of East

00:57:32.620 Berlin and tapped into

00:57:34.360 their signals intelligence

00:57:35.280 and got secrets direct

00:57:37.940 from from them by tunnels

00:57:40.400 literally tunnels and

00:57:41.440 stuff um nowadays it would

00:57:43.120 be fiber optics wouldn't

00:57:43.980 it rather than sort of

00:57:44.600 telephone lines or

00:57:45.280 anything but anyway

00:57:46.180 apparently the the plans

00:57:47.600 that the Chinese have put 1.00

00:57:48.300 forward of like they're

00:57:49.880 not saying exactly what

00:57:50.860 they're going to do with

00:57:52.000 time with buildings and

00:57:53.120 rooms underneath there's a

00:57:54.620 whole wing they've not

00:57:56.480 revealed anything it's

00:57:58.300 really suspicious yeah and

00:58:00.560 the Chinese are saying

00:58:01.380 stuff like they're starting

00:58:02.820 to put pressure on us over

00:58:03.700 that as well like um you

00:58:06.080 know um give us the

00:58:08.660 planning permission to move

00:58:09.640 in here otherwise otherwise

00:58:11.460 there'll be a diplomatic

00:58:12.200 problem otherwise there'll

00:58:13.120 be a trading problem

00:58:13.980 again they're taking the

00:58:15.100 piss they're threatening 0.93

00:58:15.840 us yeah the Israeli 0.94

00:58:17.600 embassy why can't we

00:58:19.040 it's yeah it's really um

00:58:22.320 there should be no mega

00:58:23.340 embassies yeah in the

00:58:25.600 heart of London no that's

00:58:27.700 just it's absurd if you

00:58:29.400 want a really giant if you

00:58:30.520 need a really giant embassy

00:58:31.540 for some reason China

00:58:32.480 build it out in somewhere

00:58:34.600 in like Richmond or

00:58:35.840 something Bradford you

00:58:37.620 don't do it on like in a

00:58:38.840 really most yeah right

00:58:40.180 do it in the middle of

00:58:41.120 Blackburn yeah that goes

00:58:42.220 down in the middle of

00:58:43.660 Oldham you can have all of

00:58:44.700 Oldham how'd you like that

00:58:45.620 yeah yeah and apparently

00:58:47.700 we're um the the foreign

00:58:49.300 office that we're called

00:58:49.860 into this headline the

00:58:50.520 foreign office and the

00:58:51.040 home office have dropped

00:58:51.780 demands for security

00:58:53.340 changes to the new Chinese

00:58:55.260 mega embassy in London

00:58:56.560 weird wait are we caving to

00:58:58.840 their pressure is that what's

00:58:59.840 happening here sounds like

00:59:01.340 it um and the guy that will

00:59:03.500 be basically ultimately

00:59:05.060 responsible for making this

00:59:06.620 decision is is this guy

00:59:09.840 Steve Reed Steve Reed who

00:59:13.420 is the secretary of state

00:59:14.940 for housing communities and

00:59:16.260 local government ultimately

00:59:18.780 he'll give them the green

00:59:21.060 light or not it keeps getting

00:59:22.260 pushed back apparently the

00:59:23.620 latest deadline is like the

00:59:24.840 10th of December or

00:59:25.660 something well he'll give a

00:59:27.360 definitive answer it should be

00:59:30.040 a no yeah of course it should

00:59:31.980 be should be get out of town

00:59:33.720 um let's just listen to a few

00:59:35.680 a minute or so of this

00:59:37.460 interaction you gave not too

00:59:38.760 long ago to Sky News

00:59:40.120 talking planning decisions

00:59:41.740 should the government rubber

00:59:42.900 stamp a new Chinese mega 0.99

00:59:44.680 embassy as a decision due this

00:59:46.900 time next week of course the

00:59:47.960 government shouldn't rubber

00:59:48.840 stamp any uh planning decision

00:59:50.900 and that will be a decision

00:59:52.180 that will come on my desk and

00:59:54.140 of course I can't talk about a

00:59:55.780 specific application because I

00:59:57.620 have to act in a quasi

00:59:58.700 judicial um way in in taking

01:00:00.740 the decision yeah because

01:00:01.860 there's a lot of talk that

01:00:02.880 they've been given the heads

01:00:03.820 up that it's going to happen

01:00:04.720 this is regardless of things

01:00:07.080 on those plans that don't seem

01:00:09.480 to tell us exactly what

01:00:10.760 they're going to be building

01:00:11.720 rooms underground that people

01:00:13.520 doesn't that people don't know

01:00:14.800 what you'll be useful you'll be

01:00:16.400 aware I can't talk about a

01:00:17.700 specific application but there

01:00:19.600 is definitely um in general

01:00:21.980 terms no predetermination of big

01:00:24.240 decisions like that one that the

01:00:26.260 information would be put on my

01:00:27.720 desk for that decision or any

01:00:29.580 other I will then go through it

01:00:31.260 very very carefully and I will

01:00:32.760 come to a view is China a threat 0.91

01:00:35.100 to national security in your

01:00:36.240 opinion China poses a threat to 0.99

01:00:38.660 national security we know that

01:00:40.140 because we've seen the increase

01:00:41.860 in cyber attacks okay so it

01:00:45.020 should be actually a predetermined

01:00:46.520 no right yeah how is it not a

01:00:49.000 no-brainer no statement you've

01:00:50.700 just made afterwards indicates

01:00:52.700 that it should be a predetermined

01:00:55.260 no yeah big firm no no because we

01:00:59.760 don't actually know what you're

01:01:00.380 going to be doing there so no

01:01:01.800 you've admitted there are security

01:01:04.160 risk national security risk we all

01:01:07.660 know that there's planning

01:01:09.780 unrevealed planning yeah the

01:01:13.540 predetermined should be no should

01:01:15.680 be an absolute slam dunk not in a

01:01:17.320 month of sundays thank you very

01:01:18.420 much

01:01:18.680 yeah yeah thanks for playing yeah

01:01:21.040 it should be

01:01:21.480 clown show

01:01:22.060 although two things well one thing 0.72

01:01:24.060 I said about that is two different

01:01:25.120 things he said one was that when he

01:01:26.620 was asked are they a threat he

01:01:28.620 actually just said yeah there are a

01:01:29.800 threat to national security that's

01:01:31.120 actually for a labor minister it's

01:01:33.480 actually reasonably strong usually as

01:01:35.060 I say they say they're a strategic

01:01:37.220 concern or strategic challenge or

01:01:39.460 something they don't usually

01:01:40.220 explicitly say that they are which he

01:01:42.160 did there so fair dues but

01:01:44.220 everything else you saw there it was

01:01:46.420 classic

01:01:47.080 dancing around the issue dancing around

01:01:52.340 giving just a straight-up answer just

01:01:54.420 saying I will I will make it I will

01:01:55.940 come to a view I will make a decision

01:01:57.480 of course I can't talk about blah blah

01:01:59.080 blah blah typical politician 1.00

01:02:00.580 bullshit 1.00

01:02:01.920 to to like not rule to not say it's a 1.00

01:02:06.600 slam dunk no from us

01:02:07.840 why why can't you just say no why can't

01:02:11.120 our government just say no that's a 0.60

01:02:12.840 ridiculous plan China to have that 0.90

01:02:14.940 massive site in the middle of London as 0.95

01:02:16.780 your mega embassy no

01:02:17.660 why would we how is that in our

01:02:20.160 interest

01:02:20.600 that's what I would like to hear from

01:02:22.860 someone like Steve Reed it's just of

01:02:25.480 course not

01:02:26.260 anyway that's where we are we'll see

01:02:30.040 where it goes we'll see if the

01:02:30.820 Chinese keep trying to mount 1.00

01:02:32.160 pressure on us to change our foreign 0.99

01:02:33.560 policy and do their bidding all the

01:02:35.460 time

01:02:35.840 all right is there a few

01:02:41.600 yep all right I can read some of

01:02:43.920 these if you want

01:02:44.440 Brendan Lucas says in the event of

01:02:48.180 Taiwan war a countdown effectively

01:02:50.460 starts the longer China takes to take

01:02:52.320 Taipei the more likely is to lose the

01:02:55.040 war because of blockades and a

01:02:56.600 combined US Japan fleet that is very

01:02:59.420 true as far as I'm aware

01:03:00.500 conversely if China took Taipei

01:03:02.940 quickly the more the world realizes

01:03:05.360 that the task to retake Taiwan is

01:03:07.000 impossible and they'll have to accept

01:03:09.080 things as they are entirely correct as

01:03:11.580 far as I'm aware

01:03:12.160 Chris says why don't we feed false

01:03:16.200 information through those lines under

01:03:17.640 the embassy that sounds very much like

01:03:19.440 something we would do to be honest

01:03:20.660 isn't it yeah we're very good at that

01:03:22.340 sort of thing and that's the classic

01:03:23.700 counter espionage thing oh they're

01:03:25.640 listening to us are they now now I can

01:03:30.300 feed them all sorts of misdirection

01:03:32.260 but okay who knows who knows

01:03:34.380 Luke Stewart says did he have a comment

01:03:38.460 before because it sounds like it's

01:03:39.660 replying to something is there one oh no

01:03:42.300 no it looks like it is there okay I see

01:03:45.120 it good day I'm not too worried to

01:03:47.800 check out the factory fires happening

01:03:49.220 from the China show apparently workers

01:03:51.840 aren't getting paid so they're burning

01:03:53.220 down factories as well as other issues

01:03:55.320 that they're having yeah I think there

01:03:56.860 are a lot of internal issues they've also

01:03:59.100 got a lot of debt and that their local

01:04:02.180 councils have accumulated and they've

01:04:04.440 they've got to restructure basically how

01:04:06.780 their entire economy works but from a

01:04:09.100 governmental level not necessarily like

01:04:11.360 instrumentally in like individual

01:04:12.960 factories but the way it's funding at

01:04:16.180 the minute there's an incentive for them

01:04:17.600 to take out loans using assets that

01:04:20.460 they are slowly running out of so they

01:04:22.400 can't continue doing that but they'll

01:04:24.220 find a way to refinance things and and

01:04:26.020 fix it I think it's not impossible for

01:04:28.440 them to fix but it's a delay it's a road

01:04:30.580 bump you've been very good on that a few

01:04:32.220 times talking about Chinese actual

01:04:34.000 internal problems and in fact their

01:04:35.760 economy although giant is actually not

01:04:39.200 particularly strong not the American one

01:04:41.900 but the thing is the way it works it's

01:04:43.100 so funny Chinese China and America's 0.97

01:04:46.360 import and export relationship buying

01:04:48.420 each other's sovereign debt and stuff

01:04:50.800 they've both got it's a symbiotic

01:04:52.560 relationship economically speaking if

01:04:55.820 one or other just decided to cut all

01:04:57.760 economic trading ties with the other it

01:05:00.660 sort of screws them almost as much as the

01:05:02.480 other guy they're completely entwined

01:05:05.700 economically speaking it's one of the

01:05:07.680 strategies isn't it that we integrate so

01:05:09.360 much with China that them turning against

01:05:11.180 us as in the West would be so punishing

01:05:14.200 to both of us that there's a strong

01:05:15.820 incentive for them not to do it and I

01:05:18.240 can see that argument but with Britain

01:05:20.380 if we said like yeah keep your 90

01:05:22.860 billion dollars a year then they'd be

01:05:24.600 like okay yeah good luck have a good

01:05:26.920 life but if America did the same thing

01:05:28.880 it would be that truly damaging to China

01:05:31.540 as well as America of course so it's

01:05:34.260 funny difficult interesting situation so

01:05:37.560 he carries on to say but then again

01:05:38.820 they could start a war to avoid and

01:05:40.360 distract from all the problems at home

01:05:41.880 again I recommend the China show and

01:05:43.980 China uncensored I'm already familiar 0.96

01:05:46.460 with both of those and is it Javier or

01:05:50.840 Xavier I don't know I think it's Javier

01:05:53.380 isn't it good day Josh has the style

01:05:56.340 hairstyle of Superman he's the original

01:05:59.840 so have you seen him in a room at the

01:06:02.720 same time all need to do is put on the

01:06:05.560 glasses except to become Superman Superman

01:06:08.560 doesn't wear glasses I know but nor do I

01:06:11.180 it's gonna be the way around fair fair

01:06:13.480 Josh Clark Kent firm that's what I

01:06:16.100 didn't tell you brilliant so we need to

01:06:19.940 talk about Sadiq Khan's cover-up question

01:06:23.780 mark probably highly likely of Pakistani

01:06:28.800 grooming gangs in London I don't know

01:06:32.500 anything about this but I say yes yeah

01:06:35.100 yeah it's looking highly likely to be

01:06:37.160 honest so I'm gonna I'm gonna annoy you

01:06:40.780 all brace yourself and I do actually

01:06:42.540 mean brace yourself because this is

01:06:43.760 probably one of the most infuriating

01:06:46.460 videos if you haven't seen it you will

01:06:48.900 ever see

01:06:49.440 I asked you this question last week and

01:06:54.200 you found every which way but not to

01:06:56.340 answer it just how many grooming gangs

01:06:59.500 have we got in London the void in a

01:07:02.180 misunderstanding can she define what she

01:07:03.760 means by that yes if you look at what's

01:07:06.400 gone on in Rotherham in where there are

01:07:08.620 people taking young girls grooming them

01:07:11.440 for sex that is what I'm talking about 0.75

01:07:13.960 well we know in London there are issues

01:07:18.560 about exploitation of young people but

01:07:21.060 they're not as defined by the member in

01:07:22.840 her definition of what those types of

01:07:24.820 gangs are so are you saying we haven't

01:07:27.520 got the same sort of gangs that are in

01:07:29.200 Rotherham Bradford and lots of other

01:07:31.900 places in the country

01:07:34.420 what does she mean by that you know

01:07:37.480 full well what I mean by that it's all

01:07:39.220 over the television you know exactly what

01:07:41.200 I mean by that these gangs of people 0.80

01:07:44.200 that are grooming young girls for sex do 0.99

01:07:48.280 we actually have those in London today I'm

01:07:53.020 unfair to what is meant by the question if

01:07:54.880 she could spell it out I can answer I've

01:07:56.700 just spelt it out are you not listening

01:07:58.760 it's the sort of gangs that groom young

01:08:01.780 girls at a young age for sex exactly how 1.00

01:08:06.460 much clearer do you want me to be she

01:08:10.280 dealt with that quite well didn't she yeah

01:08:11.680 big up Susan Hall yeah yeah yeah the thing

01:08:15.400 is he wanted her to say Muslim so he can

01:08:17.300 say our racist hmm she was very careful to 0.79

01:08:20.060 say groups of men groups of people that are

01:08:22.500 doing this we all know we in pakistani

01:08:25.680 muslims and he wants her to say that so 0.99

01:08:28.280 that he can just say oh you're a racist 0.99

01:08:29.740 bigot I don't even need to answer that 1.00

01:08:31.140 get out of here racist bigot because of 0.99

01:08:33.300 course Sadiq Khan is Pakistani isn't he 0.99

01:08:35.640 yeah yeah so uh he relies on his alliance

01:08:39.880 with the islamic world in in London I mean

01:08:42.960 what a despicable thing that is there's

01:08:45.560 these lives of these girls on the line

01:08:47.540 mm-hmm and he's just playing semantic games 1.00

01:08:50.680 playing stupid little bullshit games 1.00

01:08:53.140 pretending not to understand as sickening 1.00

01:08:56.080 in it well he does sick hair does he 0.96

01:08:57.920 actually sickening because again his the

01:09:00.620 whole mindset is is that these these poor

01:09:03.280 girls don't they don't mean anything to 1.00

01:09:05.300 him yeah so their lives destroyed and

01:09:07.920 crushed and you know it's irreparable

01:09:10.320 damage you will never get that back they 0.99

01:09:13.080 don't matter one iota to this disgusting 0.99

01:09:18.060 pile of detritus in the shape of a man 0.99

01:09:22.140 how much is obvious just by how he was

01:09:25.780 conducting himself wasn't it yeah yeah I

01:09:28.500 mean yeah yeah it's truly fast so sorry

01:09:31.920 about that to start with that but we've

01:09:33.840 got to set the scene um and then we've got

01:09:37.440 this as well so we're just going to have a

01:09:39.840 quick look at this just again just more

01:09:41.820 stuff basically right I think many of us

01:09:46.440 wanted to hear the oral update on rape

01:09:49.160 gangs because the mayor has refused to

01:09:52.380 answer questions on the rape gangs on

01:09:54.560 numerous occasions and I'm sure every one

01:09:57.260 of us wanted to hear his update so mr

01:10:00.520 mayor are you not able to give us an oral

01:10:03.220 update on the rape gangs in London we've

01:10:06.820 had this conversation I can't make the

01:10:09.340 mayor do something that he doesn't want to

01:10:12.100 do this isn't right you were asked by a 0.87

01:10:13.960 member for an oral update on rape

01:10:16.680 gangs you never seem to want to talk about 1.00

01:10:18.560 rape gangs if you were asked for an oral 1.00

01:10:20.800 update why can't you just give an oral 0.85

01:10:23.000 update and then the clock starts going

01:10:25.460 after that because many people wonder why

01:10:27.640 we don't ask additional questions and

01:10:29.820 it's because we're on the clock I will ask

01:10:32.120 a question then do you believe mr mayor

01:10:34.900 that there are grooming gangs now in

01:10:37.240 London so in London the vast majority of

01:10:40.600 what we're dealing with is county lines

01:10:42.280 which involves organized criminal

01:10:44.400 networks sorry sorry illegal drugs mr

01:10:46.360 mayor can I stop you this is the answer you

01:10:48.160 keep giving me you know what a grooming

01:10:50.060 gang is now even you must have picked up on

01:10:52.900 what a rape gang is perhaps if I put it

01:10:55.520 that way you'll understand more does

01:10:57.280 London have rape gangs in it sort of but 1.00

01:11:02.200 this we're a step further down sort of

01:11:06.400 timeline of his denials that's just

01:11:10.060 filibustering so infuriated about one of

01:11:15.700 the most disgusting crimes imaginable on a

01:11:19.360 scale that is almost unimaginable yeah did 1.00

01:11:22.180 you be more evil did you be more he's

01:11:26.680 he's just being it's obvious by his

01:11:29.420 failure to admit the existence of these

01:11:31.480 things because he can say yes these

01:11:35.220 things exist and that they're terrible

01:11:36.600 we're doing things to combat it but he's

01:11:38.200 not doing that which suggests one he

01:11:40.700 knows these things are going on to that

01:11:44.040 he knows it'll be damaging for him and

01:11:45.920 he's prioritizing his own self-interest and

01:11:49.260 free that he cares more about his fellow

01:11:53.420 Muslims than he does about the victims of 0.98

01:11:55.860 these these rape gangs yeah there was 0.97

01:11:59.800 another clip which I actually couldn't 0.69

01:12:01.680 find to include in this where he

01:12:03.620 specifically says that there's no

01:12:04.820 indication he uses kind of like key

01:12:07.700 language was like no there's no

01:12:08.980 indication there's no indication of

01:12:10.220 this no indication right but that's

01:12:12.680 something that gives you plausible

01:12:14.180 deniability it's saying no you're not

01:12:16.240 saying no there isn't because then he

01:12:18.600 might be on the hook for it well

01:12:20.400 there is an indication actually because

01:12:26.340 the Metropolitan Police are now

01:12:29.280 reopening not not 10 cases not a

01:12:35.760 hundred not even a thousand cases even

01:12:39.140 though that would be obviously

01:12:39.960 astronomically high and one is one too

01:12:42.540 many they're reviewing and reopening

01:12:44.840 nine thousand grooming gang cases

01:12:50.780 nine thousand very quickly to interject

01:12:56.780 just for anyone who might not know

01:12:57.680 Met Police just means London Police yeah

01:12:59.600 that's just London that's just London

01:13:01.660 also super important point is under the

01:13:06.260 mayor's purview the Metropolitan Police he

01:13:08.340 is the chief of the Metropolitan Police

01:13:11.000 basically right that's his purview he he

01:13:14.980 runs them

01:13:15.940 I mean yeah it's one of the many hats

01:13:21.620 that the mayor you know sits above

01:13:23.980 he's like the commissioner for all

01:13:25.820 police or something isn't it something

01:13:26.820 like that yeah policing police and

01:13:28.540 crimes commissioner it's it's

01:13:30.260 interesting that this comes up now

01:13:31.540 because I remember being on the

01:13:33.100 podcast with Carl one time and we were

01:13:34.880 talking about the grooming gangs and he

01:13:36.360 said how it's interesting how London has

01:13:38.540 all of this diversity and yet there

01:13:41.260 doesn't seem to be any cases of grooming

01:13:43.240 gangs and of course the obvious answer

01:13:45.560 is well it's all going on it's just been

01:13:48.180 not reported on and you know one of the

01:13:51.800 explanations that we came up with at

01:13:53.260 the time like you know to try and

01:13:55.600 potentially make sense of it was well

01:13:57.740 because everyone is you know from all

01:14:01.500 around the world in London maybe they

01:14:03.280 haven't got as concrete a community as

01:14:06.120 in you know yeah in areas like Bradford

01:14:08.500 where it's majority Pakistani but of

01:14:11.720 course that isn't necessarily the case

01:14:13.720 if you look at London there are areas

01:14:15.800 where it's majority certain ethnicities

01:14:18.220 or nationalities and so the conditions

01:14:21.440 are right to this sort of thing to go on

01:14:23.580 yeah and so the only reason that they've

01:14:28.200 done this the Metropolitan Police that I

01:14:30.480 can see is that there's been mounting

01:14:32.340 pressure nationally obviously with the

01:14:34.960 inquiry itself but that's not that much

01:14:36.800 pressure but there was an I think it was

01:14:38.660 the Express did an investigation

01:14:41.060 basically and sort of spoke to a bunch

01:14:43.460 of people there was a whistleblower as

01:14:46.080 well there's a whistleblower which has

01:14:47.200 gained quite a lot of traction now

01:14:48.600 former investigator and they're like

01:14:52.280 yeah no there's there isn't there

01:14:53.920 there's patterns this is indicative of

01:14:57.140 grooming gangs and it's just been

01:14:58.500 ignored so much so that these cases

01:15:00.760 were even put to Sadiq Khan directly and

01:15:03.280 he was just like yeah no don't worry

01:15:04.920 about it it's like crack on type deal

01:15:06.940 basically and it's just disgusting we'll

01:15:10.540 have a brief look I don't want to read

01:15:12.400 from this too much verbatim but just a

01:15:14.840 brief look from the BBC's article it just

01:15:18.620 says 9,000 cases of CSE are being

01:15:22.140 reviewed by the Met Police the force has

01:15:24.080 confirmed in a statement the Met said it

01:15:26.900 was reinvestigating the cases which

01:15:28.600 involve intrafamilial peer-on-peer and

01:15:31.280 in institutional settings along with

01:15:34.260 those which did not fit the common

01:15:37.080 understanding of a grooming gang right

01:15:39.040 so they're sort of broad scoping it

01:15:41.040 which has now also been sort of

01:15:44.300 refuted by Susan Hall as well so the

01:15:48.000 case has been re-examined following a

01:15:49.900 national review into group-based CSE so

01:15:52.580 okay we'll find it shouldn't

01:15:54.240 the fact that you've got to re-examine

01:15:58.720 it

01:15:59.420 well yeah that speaks volumes just that

01:16:04.260 yeah why wasn't it dealt with the first

01:16:07.040 time round what possible reason would

01:16:10.000 there have been there's obviously

01:16:11.340 pressure from the top isn't there that's

01:16:12.880 why that would happen yeah yeah yeah

01:16:15.240 again not carrying a fig for the victim

01:16:19.580 yeah and future potential victims as

01:16:25.160 well of course yeah oh it's it's yeah

01:16:27.880 the whole thing is disgusting I don't

01:16:29.620 really like coming on air talking about

01:16:30.900 this but you know needs to be spoken

01:16:33.540 about doesn't it you've got to confront

01:16:34.500 these horrors to actually move past

01:16:36.720 that and create a better culture and

01:16:39.700 civilization so Susan Hall this is the

01:16:43.100 the individual councillor Susan Hall who

01:16:45.020 has been doing all those questions that

01:16:48.060 I sort of started with and this is just

01:16:50.760 her statement as well this is very very

01:16:52.960 recent October 25th at time of

01:16:55.140 recording so we'll just watch this

01:16:56.860 firstly I'd like to thank so many of you

01:17:02.520 have been kind enough to watch the

01:17:04.460 videos of me questioning the mayor and

01:17:07.240 the deputy mayor about rape gangs in

01:17:10.260 london you all saw that the mayor says I

01:17:14.140 don't know what she's talking about

01:17:15.440 what does she mean well all of you knew

01:17:18.940 what I meant and I suspect he did but

01:17:22.420 trying to get information out of him and

01:17:25.280 the metropolitan police and definitely the

01:17:28.340 deputy mayor has been so difficult but

01:17:32.340 we now see that the met are investigating

01:17:35.680 nine thousand cases of grooming gangs or

01:17:40.380 rape gangs as I call them nine thousand 0.95

01:17:42.880 so from going in January when I first

01:17:45.880 started all these questions when he said

01:17:48.720 he didn't know what I mean we're now

01:17:50.580 seeing that they're admitting to at least

01:17:52.520 nine thousand cases I'm not surprised 0.98

01:17:56.000 because so many very brave victims or

01:18:00.280 survivors have actually contacted me

01:18:02.800 telling me they're terrible stories so at

01:18:06.840 least it's out there and now they admit to

01:18:09.680 it but why did it take so long Sadiq Khan is

01:18:14.700 the police and crime commissioner he's the 1.00

01:18:17.480 mayor of London what a damn disgrace he is 0.99

01:18:20.980 he's not worthy of that position 0.99

01:18:23.260 expand London mayor yeah completely we got on

01:18:29.240 fine without it get rid of it we don't need

01:18:31.020 it clearly actually very clearly we don't

01:18:33.440 need it especially when it creates

01:18:35.440 incentives for client classes no get rid

01:18:38.560 of it now it's only a recent edition

01:18:40.920 wasn't it it's not been about for that

01:18:42.500 long under Blair yeah yeah I'd get rid of

01:18:44.560 the entire London London assembly the

01:18:46.700 whole bureaucracy of it sweep it aside

01:18:48.420 London worked better before we had it and

01:18:51.880 then clear out the Met yeah of all the

01:18:55.080 apologists for all the people that allowed

01:19:00.220 this sort of thing to happen things clear

01:19:01.900 them out let's get some real people who are

01:19:03.980 going to truly hunt for justice come what

01:19:06.520 may that's what needs to happen obviously

01:19:08.680 things I've heard from inside the Met I know

01:19:11.740 quite a few people that are working within it and

01:19:15.740 the culture in there of this sort of thing

01:19:18.820 covering up these sorts of things the Met police

01:19:21.500 only out for the Met police and even then

01:19:24.580 they're not sticking up for each other so

01:19:26.800 it's pretty much an environment where people

01:19:28.900 have to only be out for themselves and it's

01:19:31.500 self-selecting for people like that there

01:19:33.820 are some good people in there they're in a

01:19:35.880 minority in a culture that prioritizes people

01:19:39.040 being careerist and selfish and not deny you

01:19:43.140 know not acknowledging politically inconvenient

01:19:45.740 facts that would be for the good of the

01:19:47.400 country if they go against the institution

01:19:50.320 yeah yeah well so yeah so why has this

01:19:55.080 happened or I mean this was obviously going

01:20:01.120 to be the case that London had them I got

01:20:03.900 some statistics here so in 2021 this is in

01:20:07.080 2021 right so the Muslim population in Greater 1.00

01:20:10.540 London was 1,318,755 now that is only in 2021

01:20:18.220 so the floodgates have opened since then it's

01:20:21.260 15% of the city's population I guarantee you that

01:20:26.080 that is much higher now guarantee of course the 2021

01:20:30.100 census data so that's just people there legally

01:20:33.020 yeah and there's good reason to believe that

01:20:35.260 figure will be much much higher and we then

01:20:37.960 subsequently open the floodgates as well so there

01:20:42.280 you go Islam is the second largest religion in

01:20:45.640 London after Christianity so there's that and 0.98

01:20:51.080 that again that is just in 2021 so let's have a look at

01:20:55.880 London's voting record as well just to sort of indicate

01:21:00.440 potentially why they're keeping this shtum shall we 0.80

01:21:04.760 ha for those that are just listening that's a map of

01:21:12.120 the London general election results and any observations there guys

01:21:19.720 it's a bit red it's a massive Labour stronghold

01:21:22.920 yeah in fact it's the only real place left it looks like

01:21:27.440 where Labour can rely on any sort of safe seats well the odd

01:21:31.360 there are the odd other places here or there but

01:21:33.760 yeah this is where they'll get the majority of their MPs from next time

01:21:37.520 probably I would have thought

01:21:38.420 classic uh West London there Lib Dems really rich area

01:21:44.080 yeah

01:21:44.720 yeah we'll just wait

01:21:46.240 yeah

01:21:47.040 just wait because that operation scatter that'll get you as well

01:21:50.560 so this is important the voting makeup for when we watch this I know you

01:21:57.040 you know got some issues with Trevor Phillips here and there

01:21:59.200 but he says this and and it's worthwhile listening to

01:22:03.280 what's coming together here is a really horrid combination that nobody really

01:22:10.480 ever wants to talk about which is um the intersection of race and sexual

01:22:15.600 predation and you know let's be honest that actually a lot of this uh is bringing

01:22:21.760 those two things together in an unpleasant way the issue about the

01:22:26.400 grooming gangs inquiry is very straightforward

01:22:29.040 the government clearly never wanted this uh these two things to be put together

01:22:34.320 and I suspect that their big reason for not wanting those two things to be put

01:22:38.160 together is that much of this took place in areas which are run by local

01:22:45.040 labour councils and that uh the uh the authorities who ought to be uh watching

01:22:52.560 over this stopping it monitoring it and all of the rest of it were controlled by

01:22:57.600 those councils and they did nothing um as I make the point I make in mind

01:23:03.680 uh just stop it there we don't really need to listen to the rest of it I just thought

01:23:07.360 the map plus what he says which is patently obvious and true

01:23:11.760 it's particularly significant coming from a former

01:23:15.200 Blair minister as well of course he himself

01:23:18.960 represented the Labour Party and him saying listen this this happened under

01:23:23.440 the Labour Party you know wasn't he on various commissions and

01:23:27.040 bodies that talked about systemic racism all through Britain

01:23:30.560 you know white on brown systemic racism so it wasn't Peter Manson your best man

01:23:34.720 Trevor mm-hmm oh thanks Trevor yeah you're about 15 years too late actually

01:23:39.120 Trev yeah really brave of you now yeah cheers

01:23:43.760 Trevor Phillips of course Peter Mandelson was on Epstein's flight logs best mate

01:23:49.200 actually yeah one of his best mates apparently so there you go 9,000 cases

01:23:55.600 reopened and probably even more those are the cases that were only reported

01:24:00.320 remember it's going to be significantly more than that and so ultimately the

01:24:04.720 buck stops with Sadiq Khan he's in an untenable position um

01:24:12.160 and yeah I don't think there's any any sort of breadth of strong coarse language

01:24:17.680 that would suffice to describe the utter contempt I have for that man

01:24:21.360 yeah here

01:24:28.160 would you like me to read the comments yeah crack on that's a random name says I would genuinely be

01:24:33.200 shocked if Khan isn't directly involved in those gangs um after all the per capita of Pakistani 0.94

01:24:38.960 nonces is insanely high and they all know each other um and are all related um yeah well

01:24:46.640 I think that it's something that is considered normal in a lot of Pakistani communities that they

01:24:51.680 do this sort of thing right and so one would imagine that him being Pakistani means that he's

01:24:57.280 got some degree of personal connection to these things of course we can't know this until

01:25:01.360 it's investigated however I mean logic dictates it right like these people were groomed to someone

01:25:06.960 mm-hmm their groomers weren't the only ones abusing them the logic dictates that community

01:25:15.360 is like universally aware of what's been going on I mean we know that anyway because of uh

01:25:20.720 alderman and uh bradford like we know that they all knew because you know they're welcomed into the

01:25:27.520 community after they come out of prison which is wouldn't happen with white people that's for sure 0.96

01:25:32.560 just throwing that out there we react very differently rob w says uh when they have taken

01:25:38.160 over the cities well you know where they'll be herding to next that is very true um squo blot 0.97

01:25:44.880 says uh rupert lo needs to take this and run with it um i'm sure he's paying very close attention to it

01:25:51.280 um 9 000 it is time for a crusade protect our girls yeah okay and should we go to the video comment

01:26:00.640 samson can we also have a little bit more time to read some uh written comments as well i don't

01:26:04.960 want to miss anyone out the benevolent samson has granted us more time thank you hello gentlemen

01:26:14.000 i'm the composer for cs cooper and menings games new title going viral cs suggested i write some music

01:26:21.120 for your intro and outro here it is

01:26:23.120 it's devilishly close to your previous tune but it's just different enough to avoid copyright

01:26:32.080 if you like it cs can connect you cscooper.com.au keep up the good work lads

01:26:40.320 that was great good old keep still working on my novel by the way bro

01:26:44.560 ready for the next one come on samson it's playing i think oh right okay

01:26:57.920 i didn't realize it started

01:26:59.120 what

01:27:19.440 what william wilberforce in bose britain

01:27:24.800 i pledge torn down all that's getting cleared out of there nothing to do with that william

01:27:33.120 wilberforce mp obviously anyone who doesn't know is the champion of abolitionism in parliament

01:27:40.240 what any of that's got to do with him really in his birth pure subversion pure subversion isn't it

01:27:47.840 claiming he he was a black man william wilberforce was brown didn't you know

01:27:54.800 amazing regarding the west midland situation i find it interesting that that the people banning

01:28:02.720 the tel aviv fans for what is technically the actions of a fee although yes i know it's more 0.96

01:28:07.040 complicated than that that they can be kind of a bunch of jerks sometimes besides the point though 0.96

01:28:12.080 the is that the same people doing this are the same ones that are complaining about the protests 0.98

01:28:17.840 out of migrants outside of migrant centers say that you can't just lump all of them together just for

01:28:23.840 the actions of a few of their number who they all happen to be rallying around to defend in the

01:28:28.800 face of the righteous outrage of the native population 1.00

01:28:34.080 the left definitely holds hypocritical beliefs they and it's not really even that novel to point

01:28:40.640 this out anymore because they have one rule for their political enemies and one rule for themselves 0.88

01:28:45.760 yeah that's how it works and if you don't do that yourself you will be beaten by that

01:28:54.320 yeah

01:28:54.560 that story i very nearly covered that but i thought i needed to leave it to go on a little bit longer

01:29:21.040 before apparently he's um being deported today they found him have they right is that right

01:29:26.720 what kabati

01:29:30.160 yeah is that is that the guy yeah he was arrested on sunday i think okay i'm i missed that then

01:29:36.960 yeah what he's just been wandering about hasn't he in his prison stuff what further developments did

01:29:41.280 you want i think yeah so he was he was at large for like a couple of days they re-arrested him

01:29:48.560 and i heard he was taken to a deportation center not back to prison normal prison but i hadn't heard

01:29:54.960 that he's going to be deported today that's apparently that would be good apparently he's 0.95

01:29:59.440 going to be deported today but that that's it that raises an interesting point of discussion anyway

01:30:04.080 in and unto itself where's the human rights lawyers have they all been called off randomly

01:30:09.360 i thought what well how can they uh the prison service and the home office and the government

01:30:14.320 themselves just want him gone now it's that now in their direct interest that he's no longer in

01:30:18.960 the country so it happens i think all of that footage of him wandering about like a sort of mr

01:30:24.720 bean s character as many people pointed out was very embarrassing for the state wasn't it

01:30:29.120 yeah and yeah and to be british more generally i was just like this looks so bad internationally

01:30:35.520 yeah just unleash this guy and he's wandering around in his prison outfit

01:30:41.200 an avocado bag i read an interesting tweet was that you should make all prison outfits bright pink

01:30:47.920 so then if anyone gets released everyone will be like oh there you go there he is i've seen them do

01:30:52.640 that exactly that for real in america in a few places apparently actually you get less violence in

01:30:58.400 that prison as well statistically speaking there's less shankings in prisons where they're more

01:31:03.200 loving pink yeah because they're just the men are just slightly deracinated by it as well more prison 0.97

01:31:08.720 bitches um i don't know they deserve it anyway um is that all of the video comments samson 0.99

01:31:17.840 okay so binary surfer says bow owen jones when he stormed off that interview was showing uh 0.99

01:31:24.480 clear fear-based non-verbals body language um he knows the devil's pact the gay community slash 1.00

01:31:30.880 progressives made with the islamists and what will eventually happen to people like him if they gain 1.00

01:31:35.520 power but he will never admit it publicly understand it's dishonestly not stupidity or ideological blindness 1.00

01:31:43.680 that's what i'm saying he's not stupid i mean jones there's a number of things 1.00

01:31:47.520 but he's not stupid right you've got to give him that he's actually quick-witted 0.98

01:31:56.480 and he's not he's not stupid but then it is ideology that prevents him from 0.99

01:32:01.600 calling out what he knows will be his ultimate destruction well yeah he's ideology it's not just 0.98

01:32:05.520 dishonest like that is ideology to the point where the only option you've got is to rage quit and walk out

01:32:10.480 it's the only thing you can do then if that's so if that's how you're going to play your hand 0.83

01:32:17.520 omar awad says lives are on the line has the same ring to it as when abortion activists imply

01:32:22.960 they'll be forced to abort even more enthusiastically if their right to kill kids is taken away the stop 0.96

01:32:29.360 hitting yourself of politics that is very aptly put and uh finally for my section jimbo g says we should

01:32:38.160 have an english no-go zone we could call it england yeah yeah beast

01:32:46.480 uh china okay justin b says now that the ccp has tried to bully us we should recognize taiwan's claim 0.94

01:32:52.240 over china and support their reclaiming west taiwan from the insurgents if i were in government that was

01:32:58.640 what i would do i have a number of times said that taiwan that that they're the chinese they're chinese

01:33:05.360 what we normal people could what most people normal people call china no they're just the communists 0.78

01:33:11.600 there's china taiwan the real china and then there's the communist insurgency on the mainland

01:33:17.360 yeah yeah there fair i can go along with that shall we one more job uh michael dream bell this

01:33:26.240 i should know how to pronounce that by now because he's a great supporter of ours thanks michael spoke to

01:33:32.480 him on the gold tier a couple times sorry i still can't pronounce your surname properly he says uh

01:33:38.080 what does he say thanks bo good to hear someone say that the us actually uh does win wars problem is we

01:33:44.400 effed up the piece yeah i mean when it comes to just the the battlefield they're absolutely absolutely

01:33:53.360 dominant no one can touch them no one can come close china won't be able to come close 1.00

01:33:56.640 but that's just that's just the first stage of any sort of conflict isn't it that's just like

01:34:02.320 that's just the first straw only isn't it harder to govern after the fact than win the war even in

01:34:08.240 many cases as for dominating the battlefield yeah the united states are just miles ahead of anyone else

01:34:15.280 miles okay anyway uh for my segment sophie live said remember this was just the 9 000 reported and

01:34:23.200 recorded the rule numbers likely higher yeah it's kind of that's the sad reality and it is sad it's 0.97

01:34:29.040 yeah it's truly despicable behavior um uh arizona desert rat says what a knucklehead 0.98

01:34:38.000 doesn't matter the men's race or ethnicity it's evil and vile 1.00

01:34:42.800 well i mean it does matter the men's race and ethnicity actually i think it matters if they're from

01:34:49.040 abroad if there's a pattern and they don't have to be here and subsequently our women folk don't 1.00

01:34:55.600 have to be subjected to it because we could just deport them all then yeah it matters actually if 0.84

01:35:00.400 the choice is a policy choice those lives have been destroyed by policy if the goal is to have as little

01:35:08.320 child sexual exploitation as possible then yeah we need to look at patterns then don't we we need to be

01:35:14.560 able to notice patterns then don't we yeah yeah

01:35:20.960 so all the comments yeah okay well um sorry it's been quite a depressing one today however it's all

01:35:27.600 very important stuff but uh thank you very much for watching and of course uh tune in same time

01:35:33.280 tomorrow and also samson has pulled up his brokernomics with dan talking about warhammer so if you want to

01:35:41.200 watch something else that might be the thing for you thank you very much for watching thank you to

01:35:46.160 my two co-hosts and goodbye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - October 28, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1283

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