The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1290

00:00:00.000 Hello, and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters, episode 1290 for the 5th of November 2025.

00:00:09.500 It's the 6th.

00:00:10.400 Is it? My God, so it is.

00:00:12.120 It was the wrong day last night.

00:00:13.420 Of course it was. For the 6th.

00:00:14.780 That was my fault. I wrote it yesterday.

00:00:17.140 Yes, it's his fault. You did that just to trip me up today.

00:00:21.280 I did, I'm sorry.

00:00:22.200 Right. I won't forget this.

00:00:24.100 Anyway, joining me today is Firas, Josh, and first-time guest on the show, political analyst Peter North.

00:00:30.960 Thank you for joining us, sir.

00:00:32.540 Nice to be here.

00:00:33.600 Wonderful to have you.

00:00:34.740 Today we're all going to talk about basically New York being conquered.

00:00:39.860 We're then going to talk about policing in Britain, and we're then going to talk about Britain's economy breaking as well.

00:00:46.840 So the general theme of today seems to be collapse and chaos.

00:00:52.200 What a twist.

00:00:54.100 So, with all that said, shall we get to the first segment?

00:00:58.120 So, as we know, Zoram Mamdani has won.

00:01:02.120 He is now mayor-elect of New York City.

00:01:05.820 How are we all feeling about this?

00:01:08.060 Are we as excited as New Yorkers appear to be? 0.99

00:01:11.220 Disappointed, but not surprised, I think.

00:01:13.540 Yes.

00:01:13.840 He seemed to be a clear frontrunner, and given the demographic change in New York, I'm not necessarily surprised that it's gone that way.

00:01:22.620 He basically advertised himself as, you know those white people with all the stuff?

00:01:27.520 I'm the guy who's going to give you their stuff.

00:01:29.720 And it turns out people like to vote for that if they want to steal white people's stuff.

00:01:33.800 Yes.

00:01:34.000 And it turns out that many in New York do these days.

00:01:37.180 I will also just say, before we actually get into the results, there was a tremendous amount of cope online from the right wing when it came to this particular election.

00:01:50.760 There seemed to be just an incoherent mess of got years, and they all just fell totally flat.

00:01:59.080 Because one, of course, this is a left that is mostly foreign and doesn't accept the America-specific claims against communism, or Marxist-Leninism, or jihadism, or any of these sorts of things.

00:02:13.040 They don't care.

00:02:13.780 They're third-worldists. 0.66

00:02:14.980 But second of all, just the fact that you also had this area where they were saying, oh, Cuomo's gaining, Cuomo's gaining.

00:02:23.740 No, not really.

00:02:26.040 Firstly, Cuomo wasn't gaining.

00:02:27.800 No.

00:02:28.120 Secondly, Cuomo isn't their guy.

00:02:30.060 No.

00:02:30.640 And thirdly, if you've imported the voters, is it really an election?

00:02:35.440 And this is a real point that, look, guys, you're changing your countries too much, and you're not going to recover from it if you don't do something about it soon. 0.79

00:02:46.200 I think it's also difficult to be enthusiastic for Cuomo, because didn't he move lots of COVID patients into nursing homes or something like that?

00:02:53.260 Oh, yeah.

00:02:53.620 He was draconian.

00:02:56.340 He was draconian.

00:02:57.140 He was a grandma killer, and it was very obvious that the policy was, how can we reduce the pension cost? 0.88

00:03:04.620 Oh, let's give them COVID.

00:03:07.740 It was very cynical.

00:03:09.160 It was extremely cynical for Cuomo.

00:03:10.860 Yeah, deeply.

00:03:12.220 And so here we have the result.

00:03:13.700 And as you can see, it was a clear victory of 50% for Mamdani and 41% for Cuomo.

00:03:21.100 And what's more as well, even if Curtis Sliwa here had dropped out, that difference, if you add them together, would still not have supplanted Mamdani.

00:03:31.740 This was a firm victory.

00:03:34.000 And what's more as well, some people were saying, ah, well, at least in Minneapolis, that Somalian guy didn't win.

00:03:40.520 Well, not this year.

00:03:42.900 But on current trends, he will.

00:03:45.580 It really is simply a matter of...

00:03:47.320 He's got haunting physiognomy as well, that guy.

00:03:50.500 It's diabolical.

00:03:52.820 Genuinely scary.

00:03:54.000 Yeah.

00:03:54.400 So we should start talking about some of the actual...

00:03:57.920 And also, just warning, every single district as well.

00:04:01.060 There was not a single outlier in Manhattan, Queens, the Bronx, the rest of them.

00:04:05.960 And so we had 57% of the black vote for Mamdani.

00:04:10.260 We had 52% of the Hispanic vote.

00:04:13.700 We had 62% of the general Asian vote.

00:04:18.500 I wonder how that would be split between East and West Asian.

00:04:23.320 Yeah, I am curious about that myself, but don't seem to have that distinction so far.

00:04:27.920 And then 51% of other miscellaneous, basically just non-white voters as well.

00:04:36.480 And what's more as well, you can always trust the women to come out and elect the far-left lunatic. 0.98

00:04:43.960 So that's really what we're dealing with here.

00:04:46.760 This is the breakdown.

00:04:48.180 And the fact of the matter is as well, that you also have the fact that you can always trust

00:04:53.720 Navara media to analyse their own victories incorrectly.

00:04:58.420 Because, as they say here, by rejecting identity politics and embracing class solidarity,

00:05:05.480 basically Mamdani was able to win.

00:05:08.060 Well, as you've already pointed out, Josh, this has nothing to do with class whatsoever.

00:05:13.660 I'm sure that the very term working class was not really in the lexicon of many of the third worlders who've arrived here.

00:05:22.280 It's a very Western view of society.

00:05:25.840 It's a very, ironically enough for Navara media, a very British way of looking at it.

00:05:30.280 We tend to view things through class a lot more than they do in America.

00:05:35.180 And generally speaking, middle class is considered quite a broad church.

00:05:39.440 So it's not nearly as divisive a thing in people's perception as they claim it to be.

00:05:46.980 Right.

00:05:47.440 And what's more as well, you can see here that this was another one going around.

00:05:50.680 Oh, we can't elect a Muslim. Don't you all remember 9-11? 1.00

00:05:53.800 Well, it's not amnesia, right?

00:05:56.460 It's the fact that those people who were there on the ground in 9-11 are not so much there now,

00:06:01.800 as you have from this statistic that Leo provides.

00:06:04.220 When you look at the people who were voting for Mamdani, for many of them,

00:06:08.860 oh, it was here 10 years plus, but not born here, 54%.

00:06:13.260 10 years or less, 82%, right?

00:06:16.940 So it's just pure demographic replacement to rig the system entirely in the same way

00:06:22.820 that it's basically become in London now under Sadiq Khan.

00:06:26.720 On the 9-11 point, I have to keep repeating this.

00:06:29.960 The biggest shock for the Middle East after 9-11 was that there were no mass expulsions of Muslims.

00:06:36.120 Had it happened the other way around somehow, the sort of reaction from the region would have been just genocidal ethnic cleansing.

00:06:47.580 And people who could afford it, who were Muslims in New York, immediately left

00:06:52.140 because they expected to just be rounded up randomly.

00:06:55.460 That was the expectation.

00:06:56.680 So the idea that after all of this, you get this kind of immigration that allows for this sort of transformation

00:07:04.380 is a shock to the Muslims themselves.

00:07:08.260 And the other point is, when did Mamdani reject identity politics?

00:07:13.000 His whole campaign was that I eat with my hands and that's who I am and this is my identity.

00:07:21.020 Right.

00:07:21.540 I mean, his campaign slogan may as well have been, I eat with my hands and I'm brown, vote for me.

00:07:25.560 Yes.

00:07:27.540 So, absolutely.

00:07:30.040 So let's just listen to him speak here for just a second about the people he has to thank for the victory.

00:07:37.040 I speak of Yemeni bodega owners and Mexican abuelas.

00:07:44.500 Senegalese taxi drivers and Uzbek nurses.

00:07:50.720 Trinidadian line cooks and Ethiopian aunties.

00:07:55.560 Yes, aunties.

00:07:59.760 So the point is, of course, this is a victory for the immigrants, but not even just immigrants, not the Irish ones,

00:08:08.120 not even the Italian ones, not the European immigrants, 0.97

00:08:11.880 specifically the third world triumph over New York.

00:08:16.120 And I remember growing up and, you know, because you had all number of films coming out in the late 90s and early 2000s,

00:08:25.500 where New York was basically, like, the greatest city in the world.

00:08:29.180 Yep.

00:08:29.400 I thought you were going to bring up Gangs of New York.

00:08:31.640 Oh, I should.

00:08:33.160 I keep seeing that going about.

00:08:34.540 I really need to watch that film, don't I?

00:08:36.520 Great film.

00:08:37.040 Yeah, okay.

00:08:39.120 And long since those days.

00:08:42.500 But we also have here as well the fact that, really, very much in the way that Trump on the right set himself up as someone against the establishment,

00:08:51.960 was able to frame it in that way.

00:08:54.220 You add the exact same thing with Mandana here.

00:08:57.800 When you've got Trump saying, vote Cuomo to keep this guy out, it makes, it gives across the perception that the entire system is against this guy.

00:09:09.060 That he is the one that the, those big bad billionaires and nasty elites don't want you to vote for.

00:09:15.480 So vote for him.

00:09:16.520 Of course, this isn't actually the case where you have, sorry, I was just going to say, yeah, here.

00:09:23.460 Obviously, Alex Soros, son of George, Open Foundation, World Economic Forum, all that.

00:09:29.960 Just globalism, right?

00:09:31.320 And so he does have billionaire backers.

00:09:35.280 Most people do.

00:09:36.540 They all have some sort of elite backing.

00:09:39.080 He did keep this one very, very quiet, I will grant you.

00:09:43.200 But that doesn't take away the fact that it is still there.

00:09:45.920 And what's more as well, we raise the point that Alex Soros' wife is literally the chief of staff for Hillary Clinton.

00:09:53.460 So this is not so detached from the swamp as Zoran would perhaps like to make out. 0.88

00:09:59.980 And then I just wanted to go back to this part as well, because there was another angle in this entire thing as well, which was that there was a great amount of push from the Republican side to really paint Zoran as someone who was just a raging anti-Semite.

00:10:19.940 And I'm not saying whether you can or can't make that case.

00:10:22.880 What I am saying is that actually a large proportion of Jews in New York did also come out to vote for him.

00:10:31.540 And these are obviously Jews who are more of the anti-Zionist ilk, but they are still a faction within New York itself.

00:10:39.480 And so really, the point is, every single time that the Republicans are the right had something to throw at this guy, there was always something to throw back the other way.

00:10:49.620 And fundamentally, none of the attacks that the Republicans stuck on this guy worked.

00:10:55.360 None whatsoever.

00:10:57.580 They were addressed to a different audience.

00:10:59.660 Right.

00:10:59.840 Like when Laura Luma here says, oh, just never congratulate a jihadi.

00:11:04.680 It's like, yeah, but his wife looks like this. 1.00

00:11:08.020 Right.

00:11:08.380 The whole meme about, like, they're going to put a burqa on the Statue of Liberty and everything.

00:11:13.420 It just makes you, I mean, it's funny.

00:11:15.380 I'm not saying it's not funny, but it makes you look ridiculous.

00:11:19.460 It makes you look like you don't have a grasp on the situation, like you don't understand the reality, the true nature of what this guy is.

00:11:26.800 I think if someone is that left wing, ideologically, it's very difficult for them to be a devout Muslim at the same time.

00:11:34.320 The two things are sort of at odds with one another, but are politically convenient when they're married together.

00:11:40.000 That was a big sigh for us.

00:11:41.780 They don't make the case for it properly.

00:11:44.220 They don't explain that the Muslim Brotherhood has been writing since the 1990s,

00:11:48.280 that their intention is to ally with elements within the United States that are subversive and destructive.

00:11:53.180 And that requires a new jurisprudence to permit Muslims to ally with people who they find distasteful. 0.85

00:12:03.100 So you see it here with Mouaddin Ali and, what's his name, Zak Polanski.

00:12:08.120 They don't understand that this is a deliberate play on the part of the more hardline Muslims.

00:12:12.640 And this is why the Somali community, which is socially extremely conservative, will still support a pro-degeneracy candidate like Ilhan Omar. 0.85

00:12:22.560 They don't look into their minds.

00:12:24.960 They don't try to understand them.

00:12:26.160 They don't try to read them properly.

00:12:27.300 So that he is pro-these jihadi guys is true. 1.00

00:12:33.300 That he himself is a jihadi is not.

00:12:36.580 But he is an instrument.

00:12:38.620 And he is an instrument of the Muslim far-right as he is of the general far-left. 0.99

00:12:44.840 And that's what gets missed in this kind of discussion.

00:12:48.380 It advances simultaneously all of the minority, well, I say minority, but, you know, majority at this point, but the minoritarian causes.

00:12:58.520 Yes.

00:12:58.800 And none of them at the same time, none and all.

00:13:01.400 Because even though Mamdani is broad enough to appeal to every single one of them, but in a very general way, but it still emboldens them.

00:13:11.600 Yes.

00:13:11.960 In their own particular way, as we see here with the Muslims in New York basically saying, we're done hiding, we're done. 0.96

00:13:17.940 This is a correct religion. 0.98

00:13:19.500 This is a religion that all of humanity needs to be part of Islam. 0.93

00:13:22.960 And we will not stop until it enters every home, right?

00:13:28.160 Absolutely.

00:13:28.960 It emboldens this.

00:13:30.460 So NYPD, the New York Police Department, runs one of the best counterterrorism centers in the world.

00:13:36.780 Because New York is a financial center and is a very cosmopolitan place.

00:13:44.960 And so a lot of global terrorism intersects there.

00:13:48.260 You can imagine what this guy is going to do to their funding and to their ability to actually push back on jihadism.

00:13:55.280 And that was a key part of their role.

00:13:57.520 They would work with the FBI.

00:13:58.620 They would work with the Met Police.

00:13:59.720 They would work with MI5 and MI6.

00:14:02.300 This was a big part of the NYPD counterterrorism department.

00:14:04.880 And with that being under the control of somebody like that, well, yeah, of course these guys are happy.

00:14:12.160 Of course they're happy.

00:14:13.260 This is a genuine victory.

00:14:15.300 It means a lot less police attention.

00:14:17.120 It means a lot less resources dedicated to them.

00:14:19.260 Because the budget of the New York Police Department is in the billions.

00:14:22.220 And the counterterrorism department does have a very substantial share of that.

00:14:27.360 What do you think, Pete, about all of this?

00:14:29.520 Well, I'm not a follower of American politics.

00:14:33.460 And I do think that if the average political nerd in Britain knew even a tenth about their own local politics is what they do in terms of American local politics, we might actually be getting somewhere.

00:14:47.260 But I think there's always, anytime there's a victory like this, there's always this outpouring of histrionics.

00:14:55.580 Oh, he's a jihadi, communist, blah, blah, blah. 0.99

00:14:58.740 And you still have to recall that this is still a Western democracy with the leaden bureaucracy that goes with it.

00:15:07.080 And this guy, whatever he said he's going to do that frightens the right, witless, you know, rent controls, he's not going to be able to do even a tenth of that.

00:15:17.760 And we've just had Boris Johnson falling out of the Tories falling out of office for having accomplished nothing in their years in office, having squandered a massive majority.

00:15:30.840 Well, we're going to see the left deserting Labour for similar reasons.

00:15:34.980 You know, you've got over a hundred majority.

00:15:37.700 Why weren't you passing any laws?

00:15:39.120 Why would you just sit there decaying, not doing anything?

00:15:43.040 Well, and I think if reform wins the next general election, we will see the exact same dynamic.

00:15:49.120 We will see this political and bureaucratic paralysis.

00:15:53.580 And I don't think it's confined just to Britain.

00:15:56.240 I think, you know, Trump's first term.

00:15:58.460 And even though, you know, Trump's making a lot of splashed headlines with ICE raids, he's still not deporting anywhere close to the numbers that the right generally believes.

00:16:12.900 And so you take away the hyperbole and you take away the, you know, some people are rubbing their hands with glee at all the images of ICE raids.

00:16:25.760 There's just a fraction of the enforcement that's actually necessary that just isn't happening.

00:16:31.480 So the drama and the histrionics, I just can't get excited about it because these people, they're going to come to office and have to get down to the real business of governing.

00:16:46.380 They were talking about rent controls.

00:16:48.240 Well, he's only going to be able to affect state-provided properties.

00:16:52.960 He can't start interfering because there's local laws, federal laws, anything this guy thinks he can do.

00:16:59.220 He's the mayor. He's not the king.

00:17:01.400 He doesn't have magic wands.

00:17:03.520 And you can't, and this is my problem with the right at the minute, especially the restorationists talking about their great restoration bill.

00:17:12.260 We're going to come in and we're going to wave a parliamentary magic wand and things are going to happen.

00:17:17.220 No, they're not.

00:17:18.180 They're just not going to happen.

00:17:20.560 And just because you pass a law, if you haven't got the enforcement mechanisms to go and implement those laws, then nothing happens.

00:17:28.180 And this is right across the West.

00:17:32.740 We've got politicians fighting hard, pouring vast amounts of money into getting elected to sit behind the control panel.

00:17:40.320 And they start pulling levers to discover they're not actually attached to anything.

00:17:46.040 Yeah, that's a great point.

00:17:47.660 Yes, indeed.

00:17:48.240 And that is really, I'll just say it now before we go on, one of the things that really is obviously going to be most interesting to see about Mamdani's victory is just how hard Washington fights him.

00:18:01.660 Because Mamdani talks of Trump-proofing New York, right?

00:18:06.340 Taking the fight to MAGA, basically making this citadel with a moat around it so that the evil bigots can't get into the castle.

00:18:15.340 But obviously, the federal government is the higher power of these two things, without question.

00:18:23.120 So control the FBI, CIA, all of that.

00:18:25.620 So I don't know what quite he expects to manage to do against those.

00:18:31.020 It's all rhetoric, really.

00:18:31.800 It's all rhetoric.

00:18:32.760 Of course, it's all rhetoric.

00:18:35.020 Symbolic victory, but this is it.

00:18:36.620 All the big victories are purely symbolic, even Trump, the first and second time.

00:18:42.780 We're not actually getting closer to where we need to get to.

00:18:45.660 And so you have here, of course, people being very, very happy about this.

00:18:51.260 Sharia law starts now, abso-effing-lutely.

00:18:55.780 Anyone here a fan of Sharia law?

00:18:57.580 Do you think these women would actually be fans of it themselves if they were on the receiving end of it? 0.95

00:19:02.600 Not with that much hair out and makeup on.

00:19:05.340 I don't think really that would go down particularly well.

00:19:08.560 My comment on this was that under Sharia law, they could both be sold.

00:19:11.960 And that would be genuinely permissible.

00:19:19.280 So they have no idea what the hell they're talking about.

00:19:21.620 These people are just stupid.

00:19:23.460 And this is obviously just the true heart of it all.

00:19:27.160 Mamdani's win is proof of concept of how to fight fascism.

00:19:31.020 Fascists want everybody to be the same.

00:19:33.400 They celebrate conformity, uniformity, sameness, hierarchy.

00:19:38.040 The entire Mamdani campaign was a love letter to diversity.

00:19:41.960 What she terms fascism, I would just simply term particularism, right?

00:19:47.940 The particular character of the United States as it was created by Europeans over many, many centuries.

00:19:56.020 And she's come in and all these foreigners have come in and gone, 1.00

00:19:59.280 my God, we don't see ourselves reflected in this.

00:20:01.960 This is fascism, right?

00:20:03.900 And now, so all of a sudden, we have to take that away from them.

00:20:08.020 That the men who died building the skyscrapers across Manhattan in the 1920s,

00:20:14.140 the people who actually colonized the land in the first place,

00:20:17.280 made it a place where these people even thought to go in the first place, right?

00:20:22.540 That's the point.

00:20:23.380 There wouldn't be a New York without the people that Mamdani basically sets himself against.

00:20:29.400 I find it really annoying when fascism gets brought up in America

00:20:34.180 because it's a political system that's probably most inoculated against it 0.96

00:20:39.320 because of the degree of the separation of powers.

00:20:42.020 Even if Donald Trump was a secret evil fascist

00:20:44.860 and did everything in his power to accumulate as much power as possible

00:20:48.820 and wield it like a tyrant,

00:20:50.440 he probably still wouldn't have as much power over America

00:20:52.840 as the average British Prime Minister.

00:20:54.440 And if you look at it from that perspective, it's just pathetic.

00:20:58.860 It's just like you're obviously just neurotic and a weirdo

00:21:01.860 and you're sensationalizing it

00:21:03.600 because it's not a problem in the United States at all.

00:21:07.840 It's just used as a slur, isn't it?

00:21:09.900 But the thing is as well that Mamdani's victory,

00:21:12.580 certainly for the people who voted him in New York,

00:21:15.580 it will basically serve their pathologies

00:21:18.000 and it will embolden them to think,

00:21:20.160 my God, we're right and we won by being right.

00:21:22.940 And so it's a total validation of everything we believe,

00:21:26.640 everything, all this just nonsense about how Trump's a fascist

00:21:30.060 and all the things that you're saying.

00:21:31.540 They will see it as total validation.

00:21:34.760 To Pete's point, everybody feels validated

00:21:36.880 whenever they gain a symbolic victory.

00:21:38.980 Yes.

00:21:39.440 Nobody actually achieves anything

00:21:40.940 because the system itself as a system is broken.

00:21:44.060 And I won, I didn't get anything that I wanted.

00:21:49.260 The political system doesn't work.

00:21:50.580 Well, what's the alternative to politics?

00:21:52.500 Violence.

00:21:54.000 So this is important,

00:21:56.780 but for reasons that these people don't understand.

00:22:00.140 I remember the morning after the referendum

00:22:03.620 and I'd been campaigning full time for a long time

00:22:08.820 for a referendum

00:22:09.700 and even ran my own little tiny campaign.

00:22:13.220 And I'd looked at the mechanics of regulation

00:22:18.080 and international trade

00:22:20.200 in a very intimate level of detail.

00:22:25.520 And so while there was this following day jubilation

00:22:28.740 about, yay, we're leaving the EU,

00:22:31.180 we can do all these things,

00:22:32.200 and I'm sitting there thinking,

00:22:33.620 no, none of this is going to happen.

00:22:35.220 And I acquired this reputation

00:22:39.000 for being just a horrible grump

00:22:40.560 because I'm always raining on everybody's parade.

00:22:43.720 But, you know, the Tories coming in saying,

00:22:46.780 oh, we're going to massively deregulate.

00:22:49.060 No, you're not,

00:22:50.120 because these things do need to be regulated.

00:22:52.160 They're based on international standards.

00:22:55.500 And even talking about,

00:22:57.000 oh, there was a story just recently

00:22:59.140 about headlights on cars being too bright.

00:23:02.080 Oh, we're going to do something about that.

00:23:03.240 No, you're not,

00:23:04.260 because these are international standards.

00:23:06.700 We don't have an auto industry

00:23:08.080 and it's all set by

00:23:09.060 the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe,

00:23:12.700 this body that nobody's heard of

00:23:14.840 but is responsible for 90% of automotive regulations.

00:23:18.240 So Parliament can pass all the diktats it likes,

00:23:20.860 but it can't force Mercedes

00:23:22.940 to change its procedures

00:23:25.020 and what it's going to sell on UK markets.

00:23:28.520 And so much is beyond the gift of politicians.

00:23:32.240 And this is it.

00:23:33.240 They don't control half the things they think they do.

00:23:37.060 That's very true, yeah.

00:23:38.360 It is.

00:23:39.300 But that doesn't stop them from believing that it's true.

00:23:42.180 And so now what we're going to have

00:23:43.860 foreigners like this woman 0.98

00:23:45.540 basically coming to New York for the Gibbs.

00:23:48.960 And obviously those people who are millionaires,

00:23:52.120 who are even just successful,

00:23:54.280 basically fleeing from New York

00:23:56.560 to other states as well.

00:23:58.640 And no doubt as well that when Mamdani does put through 0.95

00:24:02.300 some of the policies that he wants to implement

00:24:04.660 and as a result New York is made more dangerous,

00:24:08.280 less harmonious,

00:24:09.520 even than it is now,

00:24:11.020 these immigrants who voted him in

00:24:13.040 are not going to go back to their own countries

00:24:14.860 when New York fails.

00:24:15.860 They're going to go to the next American city 1.00

00:24:18.040 and the next American city

00:24:19.520 and so on and so forth.

00:24:22.440 Because really this is a victory for

00:24:25.000 people like these are the four horsemen

00:24:28.040 of the apocalypse here.

00:24:30.380 Obviously you've got Hassan Piker

00:24:32.480 and Mehdi Hassan,

00:24:33.960 the great American thought leader,

00:24:36.680 Mehdi Hassan.

00:24:38.260 Don't even know how I said that with a straight face.

00:24:40.580 Yeah, and the dog shocker.

00:24:41.800 And obviously they're all very,

00:24:45.460 very proud of themselves,

00:24:46.680 but as you can see here,

00:24:48.400 exactly to your point, Peter,

00:24:50.140 about the fact that actually,

00:24:51.360 okay, well now I'm mayor-elect

00:24:53.060 and I actually have to,

00:24:55.900 I'm not just like an outside activist

00:24:57.880 saying, oh, I want this communist thing

00:25:00.500 and this communist thing.

00:25:01.740 Now that I'm actually in power,

00:25:03.200 can I do these things?

00:25:04.860 And already you can see here,

00:25:05.940 basically backtracking on the defunding

00:25:07.760 the police thing.

00:25:08.880 And he's also said as well,

00:25:09.960 oh, and by the way, keep funding us.

00:25:12.460 Because especially if the Trump,

00:25:14.880 if Washington obviously aren't giving them

00:25:17.220 funds for New York,

00:25:19.300 then obviously the money's going to dry up

00:25:21.560 very quickly.

00:25:22.360 And if all the billionaires leave,

00:25:24.060 who they've basically declared the enemy,

00:25:26.660 then where on earth are they going to get

00:25:28.160 the funds for all of these social programs?

00:25:31.520 Doesn't seem to matter

00:25:32.620 in the slightest, to be honest,

00:25:34.780 because on the one hand,

00:25:36.980 it doesn't really matter

00:25:38.840 how successful the communism is.

00:25:41.100 What matters is that they got revenge

00:25:43.480 on Whitey, right? 0.85

00:25:45.380 Is really what it all comes down to

00:25:47.620 at the end of the day.

00:25:49.360 Because as he says here,

00:25:50.820 New York will remain a city of immigrants, 1.00

00:25:53.220 a city built by immigrants,

00:25:54.960 powered by immigrants,

00:25:56.200 and as of tonight,

00:25:57.400 led by an immigrant.

00:26:00.100 Wasn't built by these people, 0.85

00:26:01.960 I can tell you that.

00:26:02.900 Because in Manhattan,

00:26:05.520 this really is what made New York,

00:26:10.420 right?

00:26:11.300 All the people,

00:26:12.160 all the people that they hate,

00:26:14.020 right?

00:26:14.360 They act as if New York didn't exist before.

00:26:17.420 There was just a ready-made city

00:26:19.260 for them to come and take over.

00:26:21.980 When the Dutch arrived, 1.00

00:26:23.040 it just sprung out of the ground.

00:26:24.600 Yeah.

00:26:24.940 When they dredged up the soil.

00:26:26.680 These skyscrapers just emerged

00:26:28.520 out of the sludge.

00:26:29.740 New Amsterdam.

00:26:30.340 I mean, hell, you know,

00:26:31.420 I know we literally renamed it,

00:26:33.460 but even the British 0.51

00:26:34.280 will give more credit to the Dutch

00:26:36.420 for what they actually did

00:26:38.560 to build the foundations of New York.

00:26:40.540 I mean, they are the experts

00:26:41.380 of dredging swamps.

00:26:42.680 I mean, you couldn't give it to them there.

00:26:44.300 You do.

00:26:44.840 It's true.

00:26:45.440 So, just conscious of time.

00:26:48.180 So, yeah, we'll basically end it there.

00:26:50.540 But this is a victory

00:26:52.200 for the third world in New York.

00:26:55.340 And ultimately,

00:26:56.440 if Washington aren't willing

00:26:59.140 to address the crisis

00:27:00.580 of legal immigration

00:27:01.640 and the natural consequences

00:27:03.420 that it will lead to,

00:27:04.860 then this is the fate

00:27:06.220 of every single city in America,

00:27:08.100 and by extension,

00:27:09.400 your entire country.

00:27:11.060 So, you can talk about

00:27:12.340 being America first,

00:27:13.800 but if you can't even identify

00:27:15.680 which of the people in your cities

00:27:17.660 are loyal Americans,

00:27:19.840 and which ones are simply

00:27:21.120 third world grifters and chancers, 1.00

00:27:23.180 then, well,

00:27:26.320 you're coming up to 250 years

00:27:28.240 of your independence, America.

00:27:30.120 You won't be having another 250

00:27:31.900 if you don't get on top of this.

00:27:35.560 All right.

00:27:36.300 I'll just quickly read through

00:27:37.720 the chats.

00:27:39.460 Thank you.

00:27:40.340 I've got,

00:27:40.700 that's a random name,

00:27:41.440 says, also,

00:27:42.380 women voting is gay. 0.94

00:27:46.260 Discuss in the comments.

00:27:48.180 Highbrow analysis there.

00:27:49.460 That's a random name,

00:27:50.520 also, says,

00:27:51.300 my real issue with Zoran's election

00:27:52.900 is the simple fact

00:27:53.840 that an immigrant 0.99

00:27:54.360 was even allowed

00:27:55.220 to run for office,

00:27:56.700 and I say this

00:27:57.740 as an immigrant myself,

00:27:58.980 afuera.

00:27:59.720 Yeah, there is something

00:28:00.940 really ridiculous

00:28:01.760 about the fact

00:28:02.380 that the president

00:28:03.040 can be,

00:28:04.000 has to be born in America,

00:28:05.340 because there is

00:28:06.640 an implication

00:28:07.400 in that rule

00:28:08.440 that really only

00:28:10.100 someone born in the country

00:28:11.640 can be trusted

00:28:12.980 to govern it,

00:28:14.140 but every single

00:28:15.220 other office,

00:28:16.180 political office in America

00:28:17.240 is just fine

00:28:18.060 for a foreigner

00:28:19.320 to take over.

00:28:21.620 And Margarita Afternoon

00:28:23.220 says,

00:28:23.540 greeting from the

00:28:24.280 southern USA.

00:28:25.360 I love you guys

00:28:26.100 and appreciate your commentary.

00:28:27.360 Well, thank you very much.

00:28:28.280 It's very nice.

00:28:29.000 Thank you.

00:28:29.700 I hope you're enjoying

00:28:30.640 a margarita in the southern sun,

00:28:32.340 and I hope I am

00:28:33.300 soon as well.

00:28:34.660 On YouTube,

00:28:35.720 we've got,

00:28:36.340 Turi says,

00:28:37.320 here is an incomplete list

00:28:38.460 of socialist atrocities,

00:28:40.120 deepening group incident,

00:28:41.340 Tiananmen Square,

00:28:43.120 Holocaust, 0.55

00:28:43.960 USSR,

00:28:44.580 Great Purge.

00:28:45.860 Yeah, there have been

00:28:46.560 a few of them.

00:28:47.120 They do stack up.

00:28:49.200 What about the

00:28:49.640 Holodomor as well? 0.85

00:28:50.600 Just throw that one in there. 1.00

00:28:51.340 Yeah.

00:28:51.860 Big takeaways from these elections

00:28:53.480 is that Democrats will vote

00:28:54.780 for whoever will smash

00:28:56.020 traditionalist America.

00:28:57.680 Mamdani or Joe Biden's husk,

00:28:59.540 it doesn't matter.

00:29:00.740 New York is done.

00:29:01.720 What a tragedy.

00:29:02.600 It's not even that,

00:29:03.580 because the Democrats,

00:29:04.800 generally speaking,

00:29:06.100 were behind Cuomo.

00:29:07.820 Right?

00:29:08.080 It is a genuine insurgency 0.62

00:29:10.340 of foreigners. 0.51

00:29:11.660 They don't even identify

00:29:13.240 with the Democrat Party

00:29:14.580 in this instance.

00:29:16.340 it's something new

00:29:18.380 and even more malicious

00:29:21.200 than the Democrats.

00:29:23.220 Dare I say that.

00:29:25.800 Gimli says,

00:29:26.960 according to some sources,

00:29:28.540 nearly two million people

00:29:29.580 want to leave New York,

00:29:30.900 which could mean

00:29:31.920 90% of tax revenue.

00:29:33.620 I need a bigger popcorn bucket.

00:29:35.560 Yeah,

00:29:35.740 and I get no satisfaction

00:29:37.040 out of seeing New York collapsing.

00:29:39.280 I don't.

00:29:39.760 It's an iconic city

00:29:41.200 and it deserves

00:29:42.180 to be preserved.

00:29:43.460 I'm going to assume

00:29:44.100 you guys have seen

00:29:44.740 The Wire

00:29:45.200 where Tommy Carchetti

00:29:46.600 comes in

00:29:47.340 and he's making

00:29:48.380 all the promises

00:29:49.000 to the police force

00:29:50.580 and then he comes in

00:29:51.860 to find that

00:29:52.580 there's this massive

00:29:53.520 deficit in education

00:29:54.880 that has been

00:29:56.520 kept secret from him.

00:29:57.800 Well, of course,

00:29:58.260 we're going to see

00:29:58.620 the exact same dynamic

00:29:59.960 once you start seeing

00:30:00.820 the exodus

00:30:02.320 of people who know

00:30:03.380 exactly how this

00:30:04.320 is going to pan out.

00:30:05.580 Most of the tax base

00:30:06.640 goes with it.

00:30:07.900 Then you find yourself

00:30:09.260 having to pay for things

00:30:10.480 you didn't think

00:30:11.140 you'd have to pay for

00:30:12.100 out of other budgets

00:30:13.060 and then again,

00:30:14.000 all the things

00:30:14.800 that you promised

00:30:15.420 you were going to do,

00:30:16.080 you don't get done

00:30:16.820 and you're turfed out

00:30:18.380 on your ear

00:30:18.760 at the next election.

00:30:21.880 We've also got

00:30:22.940 in multiracial societies,

00:30:24.880 you don't vote

00:30:25.420 in accordance

00:30:25.920 to your economic interest

00:30:27.160 and social interest.

00:30:28.120 You vote in accordance

00:30:28.920 with race and religion

00:30:29.900 says Lee Kuan Yew.

00:30:32.860 Wise man.

00:30:33.620 Yeah.

00:30:33.760 On my first comment,

00:30:35.480 I see Gens will probably 0.99

00:30:36.980 unleash their anger

00:30:37.960 is what I have been

00:30:40.180 seeing lately is true.

00:30:41.780 It could be quite scary

00:30:43.680 when they feel like

00:30:44.960 everyone like Trump

00:30:45.860 is too soft and weak.

00:30:47.920 New York will finally live

00:30:49.280 up to the escape

00:30:50.940 from New York hellscape.

00:30:53.180 Build a wall.

00:30:54.400 And then good day.

00:30:55.800 I hope you guys

00:30:57.180 are doing well.

00:30:57.940 I would really love

00:30:58.700 to get your opinion

00:30:59.560 on the video Gen Z

00:31:01.520 from liberal to far right.

00:31:03.520 by the right-wing coalition.

00:31:05.740 I'm worried Gen Z 1.00

00:31:06.580 are going to reject us

00:31:08.040 like the left.

00:31:09.900 A review is good.

00:31:10.780 I'll check it out.

00:31:12.040 All right.

00:31:12.620 Over to you, Josh.

00:31:14.580 May I have my

00:31:15.440 equipment?

00:31:17.240 Thanks.

00:31:17.440 It's so far away.

00:31:18.960 Okay, sure.

00:31:20.440 It's rude to just grab it

00:31:21.900 in front of you, isn't it?

00:31:23.600 Please, this podcast,

00:31:24.920 we have good manners

00:31:25.540 most of the time.

00:31:25.900 We're manners maxing here, folks.

00:31:29.420 So, in Britain,

00:31:31.000 another foreign criminal 1.00

00:31:32.020 has been released

00:31:32.720 by mistake.

00:31:33.580 I never thought

00:31:36.060 I would say that sentence

00:31:37.120 and allow us

00:31:39.020 to refresh our memory

00:31:39.840 about the first one

00:31:40.880 because it wasn't

00:31:41.540 that long ago

00:31:42.280 and I just want to

00:31:43.580 bring this up

00:31:44.280 to highlight

00:31:44.840 just how absurd

00:31:46.000 the situation is now

00:31:47.220 that it has happened again.

00:31:49.640 So, this guy,

00:31:52.280 what is his name,

00:31:53.480 Hadush Kabartu,

00:31:55.180 had been in the country

00:31:56.200 eight days

00:31:56.980 after arriving

00:31:58.440 on a small boat

00:31:59.220 before he tried

00:31:59.980 to kiss a 14-year-old girl.

00:32:02.240 He also,

00:32:04.040 and this is from the time

00:32:05.200 when he got sentenced,

00:32:06.300 only got 12 months

00:32:07.160 in prison for this

00:32:08.020 for some reason,

00:32:09.300 whereas people in Epping

00:32:11.040 who were charged

00:32:13.560 with violent disorder

00:32:14.420 despite not actually

00:32:15.640 attacking anyone,

00:32:17.080 just some light property damage,

00:32:19.500 got about two years each.

00:32:21.560 Interesting, isn't it,

00:32:22.500 that these people

00:32:23.760 who didn't actually harm

00:32:25.420 an individual

00:32:26.480 get two years in prison,

00:32:28.140 whereas the boat migrant

00:32:29.400 who arrived

00:32:30.160 and tried to kiss

00:32:31.860 a 14-year-old girl

00:32:33.020 gets 12 months.

00:32:34.880 It seems like

00:32:35.640 an inversion of justice

00:32:37.580 in my opinion.

00:32:40.360 So, he was mistakenly

00:32:42.900 released from prison

00:32:44.320 and a major manhunt

00:32:46.820 was declared

00:32:47.440 and the funniest thing

00:32:50.180 about this

00:32:50.580 and something that people

00:32:51.480 didn't pick up on,

00:32:52.740 which I'm glad

00:32:53.660 someone at least noticed,

00:32:54.980 was that he has

00:32:56.940 a very low mental age,

00:32:58.940 he couldn't speak English

00:33:00.740 and he probably

00:33:01.820 didn't even understand

00:33:02.760 that there was

00:33:03.260 a manhunt going on.

00:33:04.400 I did consider that fact.

00:33:06.180 Yeah.

00:33:06.620 Qualified to be

00:33:07.000 foreign secretary then.

00:33:08.500 He is, yeah.

00:33:10.900 Also, he specifically wanted,

00:33:13.880 look, Kabatu's lawyer

00:33:14.820 said he wanted to be deported

00:33:16.300 after serving his time

00:33:17.320 in prison.

00:33:18.000 The man who wanted

00:33:19.040 to be deported

00:33:20.040 was accidentally released

00:33:22.100 back into the population.

00:33:23.340 It's just like,

00:33:25.120 oh, well,

00:33:26.680 it's like the Brass Eye thing

00:33:28.140 of this is the one thing

00:33:29.220 we didn't want to happen.

00:33:30.620 Although, you know,

00:33:31.440 maybe the state

00:33:31.980 probably did a little bit.

00:33:34.700 So, he was seen

00:33:36.080 wandering about.

00:33:38.220 Here he was in a,

00:33:39.360 I believe it was

00:33:40.160 Dalston Square Library

00:33:41.560 in Hackney,

00:33:43.120 just sort of milling around.

00:33:47.160 Also, apparently,

00:33:49.020 after he left the prison,

00:33:50.380 he was sort of just milling around

00:33:51.540 outside of the prison

00:33:52.520 and then he asked

00:33:54.060 a delivery driver

00:33:55.200 what should I do.

00:33:57.540 He told me

00:33:58.200 he had been deported.

00:34:00.440 Prison staff were saying

00:34:01.340 he had to go on a train

00:34:02.200 to get to the destination.

00:34:04.480 And so,

00:34:04.720 the delivery driver

00:34:05.580 instructed him

00:34:06.760 where to go

00:34:07.520 to get the train

00:34:08.380 because he was hanging around

00:34:10.140 outside the prison

00:34:11.040 for an hour and a half,

00:34:13.940 just not knowing

00:34:14.740 what to do.

00:34:16.580 And he was seen

00:34:18.660 walking around the street

00:34:19.760 in his full prison garb

00:34:21.340 with a plastic bag

00:34:22.400 of his possessions.

00:34:24.840 Well, part of the problem

00:34:25.540 with that, of course,

00:34:26.440 is that we've got

00:34:27.080 to the point now

00:34:27.800 where prison garb

00:34:28.740 basically looks like

00:34:29.560 everyday attire in Britain.

00:34:31.180 It does.

00:34:31.680 Someone could wear that

00:34:32.440 and you're like,

00:34:32.800 oh, he's just

00:34:33.460 out for a stroll.

00:34:35.120 To be fair,

00:34:35.660 I do automatically assume 0.75

00:34:37.180 that people in tracksuits

00:34:38.360 belong in prison.

00:34:39.300 So,

00:34:40.300 it's nothing

00:34:41.020 to me.

00:34:44.200 I'm not losing

00:34:45.000 the snob allegations

00:34:46.060 anytime soon.

00:34:46.800 And then

00:34:49.000 he boarded

00:34:51.160 a train to London

00:34:52.060 which,

00:34:52.860 these are a little bit

00:34:53.580 out of order

00:34:54.020 because he then

00:34:55.380 was seen in the library.

00:34:57.480 Here he was.

00:34:58.300 Also interesting,

00:34:59.200 he managed to acquire

00:35:00.380 an avocado tote bag.

00:35:02.220 Very stylish.

00:35:03.460 He lost his

00:35:04.280 plastic bag

00:35:05.820 of possessions

00:35:06.340 and then somehow

00:35:07.480 managed to find

00:35:08.400 his way to

00:35:09.080 other things.

00:35:10.400 Still wearing

00:35:10.920 his prison tracksuit

00:35:12.220 though.

00:35:14.400 And it was

00:35:15.120 sort of like

00:35:15.900 I saw it compared

00:35:17.100 to Mr Bean

00:35:18.060 style antics

00:35:19.060 where the police

00:35:20.520 and the authorities

00:35:21.160 were after him

00:35:22.020 and through no

00:35:23.240 cunning and wile

00:35:24.300 of his own

00:35:24.800 he's just outwitting

00:35:25.860 them.

00:35:27.380 Constantly

00:35:27.940 outmanoeuvring them

00:35:29.100 even though

00:35:30.060 there was a

00:35:30.880 national manhunt.

00:35:31.920 Without even trying.

00:35:32.800 Without even trying.

00:35:34.280 And this is a man

00:35:34.980 with the mind

00:35:36.160 of a child,

00:35:36.960 doesn't speak

00:35:37.540 the native language

00:35:38.520 and wants to be

00:35:39.500 deported.

00:35:40.140 There's a film in this

00:35:41.100 isn't there?

00:35:41.520 There is.

00:35:41.980 Oh yes.

00:35:44.380 So,

00:35:45.820 well here's

00:35:47.060 the library one

00:35:49.060 again.

00:35:49.780 And then

00:35:50.240 they finally

00:35:51.740 detained him

00:35:52.700 thanks to

00:35:54.220 information received

00:35:55.180 from the public.

00:35:56.480 I'm amazed

00:35:56.880 they actually

00:35:57.360 followed up on it

00:35:58.240 to be honest.

00:35:59.580 And

00:35:59.900 he also got

00:36:03.040 paid

00:36:03.480 £500

00:36:04.440 before they

00:36:07.440 sent him on

00:36:07.820 his way

00:36:08.200 which

00:36:08.900 this is a

00:36:10.020 quote from

00:36:10.600 his victim.

00:36:11.140 he got

00:36:12.020 paid

00:36:12.320 £500

00:36:12.780 when I

00:36:13.340 got home

00:36:13.760 I just

00:36:14.180 cried

00:36:14.500 because I

00:36:14.880 felt like

00:36:15.280 he got

00:36:15.540 paid

00:36:15.800 for what

00:36:16.080 he had

00:36:16.320 done

00:36:16.480 to me

00:36:16.860 with the

00:36:17.320 words of

00:36:17.640 the

00:36:17.740 14-year-old

00:36:18.280 victim

00:36:18.620 that he

00:36:19.200 sexually 0.61

00:36:19.560 assaulted.

00:36:21.140 Just

00:36:21.300 horrified.

00:36:22.000 £500 is

00:36:22.680 around a year's

00:36:24.540 salary in Ethiopia

00:36:25.220 by the way.

00:36:25.760 So he got

00:36:27.680 given a year's

00:36:28.340 salary to

00:36:29.060 be a

00:36:30.180 sex offender

00:36:30.900 and got

00:36:32.280 sent home

00:36:32.680 packing

00:36:33.060 after having

00:36:33.940 a little

00:36:34.220 adventure

00:36:34.780 around

00:36:35.540 England

00:36:35.920 for a

00:36:36.800 couple of

00:36:37.120 weeks.

00:36:38.640 This is

00:36:39.340 absurd.

00:36:40.320 An absurd

00:36:40.760 incentive to

00:36:41.720 place on

00:36:42.540 people doing

00:36:43.180 this sort of

00:36:43.680 thing.

00:36:44.260 It's like

00:36:44.440 come here

00:36:44.960 commit awful

00:36:46.120 crimes and

00:36:46.680 we'll pay

00:36:47.060 you to go

00:36:47.520 away.

00:36:48.940 The Dane

00:36:49.260 girl didn't 0.98

00:36:49.700 work.

00:36:50.420 I hate to

00:36:50.700 break it to

00:36:51.100 you.

00:36:52.940 Yes,

00:36:53.580 they announced

00:36:54.380 that they

00:36:54.660 deported him

00:36:55.300 overnight.

00:36:57.180 This is

00:36:57.700 border security

00:36:59.060 minister saying

00:36:59.740 it on LBC.

00:37:01.340 So interesting

00:37:02.160 that they can

00:37:02.580 do that when

00:37:03.180 he causes an

00:37:04.000 embarrassment to

00:37:04.720 the political

00:37:05.040 system,

00:37:05.600 isn't it?

00:37:06.500 Immediately they

00:37:07.160 can get shot

00:37:07.700 of him.

00:37:08.880 And of

00:37:09.560 course the

00:37:10.100 absurdity of

00:37:10.740 this was

00:37:11.200 memed.

00:37:12.140 There's been

00:37:12.580 a walking

00:37:13.740 tour pub

00:37:14.300 crawl of

00:37:14.820 his route

00:37:15.340 created.

00:37:16.640 14 stops

00:37:17.580 there.

00:37:18.600 As well as

00:37:19.640 this one that

00:37:20.660 I liked

00:37:21.040 particularly.

00:37:22.580 With 500

00:37:23.120 quid in his

00:37:23.760 pocket he

00:37:24.160 could probably

00:37:24.460 have two

00:37:24.820 pints on

00:37:25.380 that crawl

00:37:25.820 as well.

00:37:26.260 He probably

00:37:26.560 could,

00:37:27.020 yeah.

00:37:28.420 Connolly

00:37:28.720 Druckberg

00:37:29.140 released this

00:37:29.920 in time for

00:37:30.800 Halloween so

00:37:31.460 I hope at

00:37:31.940 least some of

00:37:32.480 you dressed

00:37:32.800 up as him

00:37:33.280 for Halloween.

00:37:34.940 It would be

00:37:35.220 very scary to

00:37:36.020 see someone

00:37:36.420 dressed like

00:37:36.820 this on the

00:37:37.240 street, I

00:37:37.580 know that

00:37:37.860 much.

00:37:38.760 But the

00:37:40.880 unfortunate

00:37:41.560 thing is

00:37:42.760 that Lammy

00:37:46.720 is the one

00:37:47.560 that's

00:37:47.800 responsible for

00:37:48.600 preventing this

00:37:49.280 from happening

00:37:49.720 again.

00:37:50.660 He announced

00:37:52.220 that checks

00:37:53.200 are to be

00:37:53.600 enhanced

00:37:54.220 because this

00:37:56.600 is a terrible

00:37:57.140 mistake and

00:37:57.760 it's not a

00:37:58.320 symptom of a

00:37:58.940 failing political

00:37:59.560 system, it's

00:38:00.360 just a

00:38:01.220 clerical error.

00:38:02.700 A blip.

00:38:03.300 It was, yes.

00:38:04.240 But he's got

00:38:04.880 these really

00:38:05.540 strong checks

00:38:06.580 in place and

00:38:07.140 it will never

00:38:07.660 happen again.

00:38:08.880 And it is

00:38:09.360 definitely not

00:38:09.860 going to happen.

00:38:10.760 But may I

00:38:11.820 remind everyone

00:38:12.540 who David

00:38:13.320 Lammy is. 0.79

00:38:14.920 This man,

00:38:16.040 a man who

00:38:16.560 thinks that

00:38:17.280 Henry VII

00:38:18.400 succeeded

00:38:19.040 Henry VIII,

00:38:20.460 that Marie

00:38:20.940 Antoinette won

00:38:21.700 a Nobel Prize

00:38:22.640 and Red

00:38:23.240 Leicester is a

00:38:23.960 blue cheese.

00:38:26.760 This is one of

00:38:28.020 the most insane

00:38:28.740 clips I've ever

00:38:29.480 seen in my

00:38:29.980 life.

00:38:30.900 If you were to

00:38:31.840 try to write

00:38:32.880 that into a

00:38:33.680 comedy show,

00:38:34.440 nobody would

00:38:34.940 believe you.

00:38:35.720 He didn't get a

00:38:36.240 single question

00:38:36.860 right, did he?

00:38:37.580 Not one.

00:38:38.380 He got eight in

00:38:40.660 his specialist

00:38:41.320 subject, which is

00:38:42.100 Muhammad Ali.

00:38:43.240 Right.

00:38:43.860 OK.

00:38:44.900 I hadn't seen

00:38:45.620 that bit.

00:38:46.400 Of a foreigner. 0.98

00:38:47.500 But if you

00:38:48.420 wrote into

00:38:49.000 something like

00:38:49.560 that, not only

00:38:50.080 that he got

00:38:50.520 all of this

00:38:50.920 wrong, but

00:38:51.560 that he

00:38:51.840 proceeded

00:38:52.240 afterwards to

00:38:52.880 become foreign 0.98

00:38:53.440 secretary and

00:38:54.060 then justice

00:38:54.400 secretary.

00:38:55.460 And deputy

00:38:55.820 prime minister.

00:38:56.580 And deputy

00:38:56.940 prime minister.

00:38:57.560 Nobody would

00:38:58.260 believe you.

00:38:59.200 In fairness to

00:38:59.980 Lammy though,

00:39:00.880 not that there's

00:39:01.620 any reason we

00:39:02.200 should be fair,

00:39:03.020 but this could

00:39:04.100 have happened

00:39:04.760 under any

00:39:05.920 justice minister

00:39:07.080 because of how

00:39:08.680 decrepit the

00:39:09.540 institutions are.

00:39:10.680 And this is

00:39:12.040 part of a

00:39:14.440 three decade

00:39:15.480 long trend

00:39:16.560 towards privatisation

00:39:18.160 of the prison

00:39:18.860 system.

00:39:20.220 And every

00:39:21.080 function that

00:39:22.200 should be a

00:39:23.860 ring-fenced

00:39:24.520 function of

00:39:25.420 the state,

00:39:26.560 i.e. the

00:39:27.020 state deciding

00:39:27.960 who can be

00:39:28.700 released onto

00:39:29.500 our streets,

00:39:30.920 you would at

00:39:32.580 one time have

00:39:33.380 a uniformed

00:39:35.280 prison governor,

00:39:36.660 but you don't

00:39:37.280 have that.

00:39:37.820 Now you have

00:39:38.240 managing directors

00:39:40.140 in suits and

00:39:41.420 all kinds of

00:39:42.800 circo officials

00:39:44.400 and lots of

00:39:45.740 the different

00:39:46.620 probation functions

00:39:48.340 have been

00:39:48.660 farmed out.

00:39:49.800 These are things

00:39:50.660 that should

00:39:51.500 inherently be

00:39:52.560 part of the

00:39:53.880 justice system.

00:39:55.100 The courts and

00:39:55.640 the prison system

00:39:56.520 should all be

00:39:57.180 under the same

00:39:57.780 roof with the

00:39:58.880 same level of

00:39:59.740 military level

00:40:00.920 accountability,

00:40:02.620 where if something

00:40:03.320 goes on like

00:40:04.160 this, then in

00:40:06.400 order for it to

00:40:07.700 have happened,

00:40:08.440 it would have

00:40:08.940 had to have been

00:40:09.500 signed off by a

00:40:10.540 uniformed prison

00:40:11.600 governor, and

00:40:13.420 they would in

00:40:15.060 that instance

00:40:15.740 expect to lose

00:40:16.660 their pension

00:40:17.540 and be turfed

00:40:18.240 out, and

00:40:20.180 that's the

00:40:20.940 accountability

00:40:21.520 that's been

00:40:22.380 missing.

00:40:23.100 But with the

00:40:24.000 modern circo

00:40:24.860 state, things

00:40:25.540 like this happen,

00:40:26.620 the people

00:40:26.960 responsible still

00:40:28.160 take 200 grand

00:40:30.400 a year away,

00:40:31.360 and a nice

00:40:32.280 cushy pension.

00:40:33.440 We've deleted

00:40:34.360 any kind of

00:40:36.080 accountability.

00:40:36.760 accountability.

00:40:37.640 If you haven't

00:40:38.580 yet had Ian

00:40:40.980 Aitchison on,

00:40:41.820 he's the

00:40:43.920 prison's guy

00:40:44.860 that Reformer

00:40:45.880 listening to,

00:40:46.940 and certainly

00:40:47.260 Generic's

00:40:47.800 listening to him,

00:40:48.860 and he said,

00:40:50.020 you know,

00:40:50.640 very recently he

00:40:52.500 said one of the

00:40:52.960 key changes you

00:40:53.700 could make is to

00:40:54.440 put the prison

00:40:55.240 bosses back in

00:40:57.280 uniform, so that

00:40:58.680 they're part of

00:40:59.620 the system, they

00:41:00.540 are part of the

00:41:01.240 command structure,

00:41:02.540 they're wearing the

00:41:03.360 uniform, they're

00:41:04.180 proud of it, and

00:41:05.480 it actually means

00:41:06.600 something.

00:41:07.540 But if you're

00:41:08.360 stood there in a

00:41:10.500 short shirt and

00:41:11.780 combat casuals with

00:41:14.900 your circo name

00:41:15.980 badge as a

00:41:17.000 mid-ranking

00:41:17.640 functionary, you

00:41:18.760 don't feel that

00:41:19.660 same sense of

00:41:20.400 belonging and

00:41:21.220 pride and belief

00:41:22.220 that what you do

00:41:23.480 is part of

00:41:24.200 society and means

00:41:25.240 something, it's

00:41:26.220 actually a, it's

00:41:27.240 just a job, and

00:41:28.780 once you made it

00:41:30.240 just a job, you 0.68

00:41:32.600 downgraded it, and

00:41:34.080 these are dangerous

00:41:36.340 jobs, you're

00:41:37.080 dealing with

00:41:37.480 dangerous people, 0.62

00:41:38.860 you're going to

00:41:39.560 work, you're put at

00:41:40.520 risk for mediocre

00:41:42.340 pay, nobody wants

00:41:43.380 to do that, and

00:41:44.100 guess what?

00:41:45.780 You're increasingly

00:41:46.720 looking for

00:41:47.560 overseas immigrants

00:41:49.940 to act as prison

00:41:51.260 guards, and this

00:41:53.060 is a total

00:41:53.720 distortion of the

00:41:55.900 system, because

00:41:57.260 we, it should be

00:41:58.700 us, British people,

00:42:00.740 guarding the

00:42:01.720 prisoners, deciding

00:42:02.600 who can go

00:42:03.140 back, so we

00:42:05.480 need to

00:42:06.000 basically scrub

00:42:06.740 the prison

00:42:07.160 system, start

00:42:08.040 from scratch, and

00:42:08.780 rebuild it along

00:42:09.960 the lines of

00:42:10.640 where it was.

00:42:11.680 Because of all

00:42:12.460 the things to be

00:42:13.240 privatised and run

00:42:14.160 like a business,

00:42:15.040 you know, I'm in

00:42:15.680 favour of that for

00:42:16.340 things like healthcare,

00:42:17.380 you know, I hate

00:42:18.280 the NHS and want

00:42:19.220 it destroyed, but

00:42:20.020 for prisons, that's

00:42:21.620 one of the areas

00:42:22.100 where I'm just like,

00:42:22.740 obviously this should

00:42:23.780 be in the hands of

00:42:24.540 the state, and

00:42:25.720 the only sense it

00:42:27.220 should be run like

00:42:28.100 a business is in

00:42:29.080 the sense that maybe

00:42:30.060 the prisoners should

00:42:30.720 be made to do

00:42:31.560 work as part of

00:42:32.300 their imprisonment

00:42:33.020 to at least pay

00:42:33.960 for their own

00:42:34.420 upkeep, or

00:42:35.280 something like

00:42:35.760 that, but the

00:42:37.020 state should be

00:42:37.520 doing it, not a

00:42:38.160 private company.

00:42:38.980 Because there was

00:42:39.560 a quasi-military

00:42:41.000 structure to the

00:42:42.720 prison service, it

00:42:44.980 had its own

00:42:46.020 military discipline,

00:42:47.360 and as a result

00:42:48.920 was able to

00:42:49.940 impose that

00:42:50.960 discipline on

00:42:52.460 prisoners, and

00:42:53.720 so the uniform

00:42:56.540 in itself was an

00:42:58.060 authority, so you

00:42:59.080 didn't have to be a

00:42:59.920 strong, bulky man, you

00:43:01.300 just had to walk on

00:43:02.480 the wing in that

00:43:03.760 uniform, and the

00:43:05.620 subtext of that

00:43:07.140 uniform is, if you

00:43:08.820 try, you die. 0.95

00:43:10.980 Your life will be, if

00:43:12.860 you so much as put a

00:43:14.060 finger on anyone

00:43:15.480 wearing that uniform,

00:43:16.660 your life is

00:43:17.480 miserable for the

00:43:18.540 rest of your stay.

00:43:20.580 And that is how you

00:43:22.440 impose discipline on

00:43:24.140 the wing, that is

00:43:25.320 how you cultivate

00:43:28.620 good behaviour, and

00:43:30.800 as soon as we

00:43:31.560 lost that uniform, we

00:43:32.900 lost the authority,

00:43:34.400 and as I say, any

00:43:36.680 uniform is just a

00:43:39.400 work suit, unless

00:43:40.800 it's got the crown

00:43:41.880 emblem, because that

00:43:43.240 emblem means

00:43:44.540 something, and the

00:43:45.300 moment we take away

00:43:46.340 that, they lose

00:43:47.820 their authority of

00:43:49.080 the crown and the

00:43:50.580 state.

00:43:51.160 I very much agree.

00:43:53.000 Yeah, it's the

00:43:53.920 HRification of 0.78

00:43:54.800 everything, it's the

00:43:55.920 commercialisation of

00:43:56.880 everything, it's the

00:43:58.440 idea that the state

00:44:00.040 is by definition

00:44:00.780 incompetent, and the

00:44:01.920 private sector is by

00:44:02.860 definition better, and

00:44:05.480 that the state

00:44:05.860 doesn't have

00:44:06.360 particular

00:44:06.820 responsibilities of

00:44:07.860 service and duty

00:44:08.820 and honour, most

00:44:10.360 importantly.

00:44:11.440 If you honour a

00:44:12.320 uniform, the honour

00:44:14.180 of the uniform

00:44:14.800 demands that

00:44:16.320 transgressions be

00:44:17.080 punished properly.

00:44:18.060 Well, the same 0.74

00:44:18.340 applies to the

00:44:18.860 police, as you've

00:44:19.480 seen them becoming

00:44:20.540 more slovenly,

00:44:21.620 wearing paramilitary

00:44:23.160 gear and bright

00:44:24.200 yellow vests, and

00:44:26.760 you know, people

00:44:28.940 used to mock that

00:44:30.040 dome hat, but you

00:44:33.080 took it seriously

00:44:34.460 because it meant

00:44:35.780 something.

00:44:36.860 It was a long

00:44:38.520 period of tradition

00:44:41.500 of the police's own

00:44:44.100 authority wrapped up

00:44:45.260 in that tradition, and

00:44:46.860 so as soon as you

00:44:48.140 civilianise that force

00:44:50.800 and how it appears, it

00:44:52.040 loses its inherent

00:44:52.980 authority. So not

00:44:54.560 only are you losing

00:44:55.340 discipline in the

00:44:56.120 prisons, you're losing

00:44:56.860 it on the streets as

00:44:57.580 well.

00:44:59.100 So, returning to the

00:45:01.020 topic of incompetence

00:45:02.300 and David Lammy, may

00:45:03.160 I remind everyone of

00:45:04.780 his perception

00:45:05.520 abilities, his

00:45:06.280 ability to spot

00:45:07.140 things. Oh, there's

00:45:09.460 a mouse.

00:45:10.640 We haven't seen a

00:45:11.360 police while I've

00:45:12.080 been here, and I've

00:45:12.580 been here for a

00:45:13.040 little while now.

00:45:14.900 People, people are

00:45:16.260 frightened, and

00:45:17.080 what...

00:45:17.600 So, who thinks

00:45:19.740 that his solution is

00:45:20.620 going to solve the

00:45:21.200 problem?

00:45:21.460 Obviously it's not, and

00:45:23.780 of course, it's all

00:45:24.440 talk, and even if he

00:45:26.220 had the best one in

00:45:26.820 the world, and was as

00:45:28.000 competent as could be,

00:45:29.320 the system is so

00:45:30.260 broken that he

00:45:31.140 couldn't do it anyway,

00:45:32.100 so there's no point

00:45:32.900 even claiming that he

00:45:35.160 could, and so this has

00:45:37.080 resulted in this.

00:45:41.500 Wandsworth Prison,

00:45:42.460 Manhunt, latest.

00:45:43.340 Prisoner found three

00:45:44.280 days after accidental

00:45:45.220 release, but another on

00:45:46.500 the loose, so that's

00:45:48.600 talking about the

00:45:50.540 Kabatu guy.

00:45:52.320 So, the 24-year-old

00:45:54.360 Algerian national was

00:45:55.640 released in error on

00:45:56.940 October 29th, just

00:45:58.280 days after a sex

00:45:59.740 offender migrant 1.00

00:46:00.580 Haddish Kabatu was 0.93

00:46:02.120 wrongly freed from

00:46:03.240 H&P Chelmsford.

00:46:05.080 A Met police

00:46:05.520 spokesperson said

00:46:06.460 shortly after 1pm on

00:46:07.680 Tuesday the 4th of

00:46:08.540 November, interesting

00:46:09.940 that difference of

00:46:10.760 dates there, so he

00:46:11.980 was released in error

00:46:12.820 on the 29th of

00:46:13.700 October, and the

00:46:14.820 police were notified

00:46:15.900 on the 4th of

00:46:16.740 November, five days

00:46:19.380 later, five, six

00:46:20.580 days later, right?

00:46:21.840 The Met was informed

00:46:23.200 by the prison service

00:46:24.140 that a prisoner had

00:46:24.820 been released in error,

00:46:26.200 and the BBC has also

00:46:29.020 reported that he's not

00:46:30.300 an asylum seeker this 1.00

00:46:31.480 time.

00:46:33.000 So, GB News

00:46:34.460 reporting says the

00:46:35.440 prisoner was serving

00:46:37.740 time for trespassing

00:46:38.780 with the intent to

00:46:39.700 steal, so they've

00:46:40.540 released a thief, and

00:46:42.100 he is also believed

00:46:42.840 to have previously

00:46:43.580 committed sexual

00:46:44.460 offences.

00:46:45.300 Oh, great, so

00:46:45.800 another sex offence.

00:46:46.520 Of course.

00:46:47.420 Released accidentally.

00:46:49.160 Just keeps on

00:46:49.720 happening.

00:46:50.260 Just want to make a

00:46:51.140 point about Algerians.

00:46:53.600 Okay.

00:46:54.460 Algerian football fans

00:46:55.560 are the only ones I

00:46:56.640 know of in the Middle

00:46:57.360 East who chant 0.99

00:46:58.600 regularly, we are

00:47:00.460 your sons, Bin

00:47:01.220 Laden.

00:47:04.080 What exactly does

00:47:05.240 that mean?

00:47:05.860 That we are the

00:47:06.560 heirs of Bin 0.51

00:47:07.080 Laden, and we want

00:47:08.140 to do what he did.

00:47:10.260 They particularly

00:47:11.300 did they go to

00:47:12.100 football matches?

00:47:13.580 That's not the

00:47:15.640 message there.

00:47:17.240 Oh, I see.

00:47:17.680 That's not exactly the

00:47:19.180 message there.

00:47:19.620 No.

00:47:19.900 Are they particularly

00:47:20.340 bitter for French

00:47:21.160 colonialism?

00:47:21.900 Is that why they're

00:47:22.740 so hard on?

00:47:23.300 No, they're just

00:47:23.720 bitter.

00:47:24.400 Like, the Moroccans 1.00

00:47:25.160 and the Libyans

00:47:25.820 think that the

00:47:26.400 Algerians are 1.00

00:47:26.960 absolutely nuts, and

00:47:28.640 they know because

00:47:29.240 they live next door.

00:47:30.020 The Tunisians hate 1.00

00:47:30.880 everybody around them

00:47:31.740 because they're the

00:47:32.240 most civilized people

00:47:33.020 in North Africa.

00:47:34.420 But they are also

00:47:35.760 the ones who sent

00:47:36.760 the most per capita

00:47:37.760 people to fight for

00:47:38.880 Islamic State.

00:47:39.520 So there's that

00:47:40.700 other dynamic.

00:47:41.760 Clear out the

00:47:42.500 riffraff.

00:47:43.140 Yes.

00:47:43.520 So the level of

00:47:47.240 understanding that

00:47:48.400 people have when

00:47:49.960 they advocate for

00:47:50.820 these societies is

00:47:52.840 non-existent.

00:47:53.580 They don't

00:47:53.880 understand these

00:47:54.520 societies.

00:47:55.080 They don't

00:47:55.260 understand how

00:47:55.700 these communities

00:47:56.140 work, what they

00:47:56.780 think, what the

00:47:57.320 average person of

00:47:58.080 theirs thinks.

00:47:59.860 And you see this

00:48:00.880 endless talk about,

00:48:01.820 oh, his rights, his

00:48:02.520 rights.

00:48:03.180 Guys, you have no

00:48:03.980 idea what you're

00:48:04.440 talking about.

00:48:04.900 We don't need

00:48:07.620 rights for criminals.

00:48:08.800 You surrender your

00:48:09.460 rights as soon as

00:48:10.700 you have committed

00:48:11.300 a crime, especially

00:48:12.620 if you're from

00:48:13.220 abroad, then you

00:48:13.960 have absolutely no

00:48:14.820 claim to even

00:48:15.820 regaining them in

00:48:16.420 the first place.

00:48:17.600 So this is what the

00:48:18.280 guy looks like.

00:48:19.660 He's called

00:48:20.480 Brahim Khadur

00:48:22.600 Sharif, I think.

00:48:24.920 Apparently he's got

00:48:25.800 links to Tower

00:48:26.460 Hamlets.

00:48:27.260 What a turn of

00:48:27.820 events.

00:48:29.320 I mean, of course,

00:48:30.220 color me shocked

00:48:31.000 and also is known to

00:48:32.040 frequent the

00:48:32.540 Westminster area.

00:48:33.520 He might be in a

00:48:34.080 labor, you know,

00:48:34.900 might be working

00:48:35.780 for a labor MP,

00:48:36.760 I imagine.

00:48:38.980 And the thing is,

00:48:40.320 there's also another

00:48:42.480 one on top of this.

00:48:44.680 It wasn't just...

00:48:45.580 Three.

00:48:46.460 It's actually three,

00:48:47.280 yeah.

00:48:47.900 So they're appealing

00:48:49.280 to help find 35

00:48:50.440 year old William

00:48:51.220 Smith, not a foreign 1.00

00:48:52.640 person this time.

00:48:55.080 Goes by the name 0.99

00:48:55.920 Billy, that's what he

00:48:56.640 looks like.

00:48:57.260 If you see him,

00:48:58.160 obviously contact the

00:48:59.520 police.

00:49:00.420 But he is known for

00:49:01.960 fraud offenses and

00:49:03.540 not sexual assault.

00:49:05.720 Well, that's nice.

00:49:07.600 I mean, so he's just

00:49:08.580 going to defraud you

00:49:09.500 rather than sexually

00:49:10.300 assault you.

00:49:11.140 Wonderful.

00:49:12.480 And the unfortunate

00:49:14.460 thing is that all of

00:49:15.800 this was going on

00:49:16.560 whilst David Lammy was

00:49:17.800 in Prime Minister's

00:49:18.660 questions, answering the

00:49:20.120 questions, when he

00:49:21.900 proudly proclaimed that

00:49:23.740 I am the first black

00:49:25.020 man to answer Prime

00:49:26.060 Minister's questions.

00:49:26.940 as if, who cares?

00:49:30.540 But whilst he was the

00:49:32.380 first black man in

00:49:33.940 Prime Minister's

00:49:34.460 questions, he failed to

00:49:35.520 answer five times

00:49:37.440 whether no other

00:49:39.860 asylum-seeking offender

00:49:41.000 had accidentally been

00:49:41.940 released from prison

00:49:42.740 and he just ignored it.

00:49:45.860 And in fact, he said

00:49:46.860 he's looking forward to

00:49:48.300 being up against Robert

00:49:49.540 Jenrick next week,

00:49:50.940 suggesting that he's

00:49:51.640 being given a hard time.

00:49:52.780 So I'm going to play

00:49:53.260 this a little bit.

00:49:53.800 Mr Speaker, the public

00:49:55.340 are extremely concerned

00:49:57.280 about what happened

00:49:58.360 in the Kabartu case.

00:50:00.020 They want to know

00:50:00.980 there won't be a repeat.

00:50:03.660 So I'm putting to him

00:50:04.600 a very clear question

00:50:05.780 about his responsibilities.

00:50:08.080 I repeat, can he

00:50:10.020 reassure the House

00:50:11.140 that since Kabartu

00:50:12.640 was released, no other

00:50:14.560 asylum-seeking offender

00:50:16.040 has been accidentally

00:50:17.420 let out of prison?

00:50:18.640 Can he answer the question?

00:50:21.000 Deputy Prime Minister,

00:50:22.280 Mr Speaker, I'm looking

00:50:28.220 forward to being up

00:50:29.540 against the member

00:50:30.360 for Newark next time.

00:50:32.660 In 25 years in this

00:50:35.300 House, I've not missed

00:50:36.320 a more shameful

00:50:37.360 spectacle, frankly,

00:50:39.080 than what the party

00:50:39.820 opposite left in our

00:50:41.440 justice system.

00:50:42.800 Their criminal negligence

00:50:44.560 on his watch as a

00:50:46.000 former Justice Milaker.

00:50:48.320 So he's not actually

00:50:49.680 wrong there that the

00:50:50.600 Tories did do a terrible

00:50:51.680 job.

00:50:52.960 However, he still

00:50:54.460 didn't answer the

00:50:55.080 question for five times

00:50:56.300 and in fact, two people

00:50:58.280 had been released.

00:50:59.180 He probably knew about

00:51:00.100 it at this point as the

00:51:01.900 person in government

00:51:03.500 ultimately responsible

00:51:05.160 for it.

00:51:06.440 And if it, you know,

00:51:07.960 reached the press,

00:51:09.440 it's probably reached

00:51:10.360 his desk.

00:51:11.240 And that's probably why

00:51:12.160 he refused to answer it

00:51:13.420 five times in a row.

00:51:15.100 And it's interesting

00:51:16.180 as a lack of transparency.

00:51:17.820 But as we've addressed

00:51:19.340 today, there are so many

00:51:21.680 problems here to fix this

00:51:23.360 sort of thing.

00:51:23.940 And it is truly an

00:51:25.160 absurdity that could be

00:51:26.200 made into some sort of

00:51:27.060 comedy film that we just

00:51:28.840 keep on releasing sex 0.98

00:51:29.940 offenders into the general

00:51:30.960 population by mistake.

00:51:32.600 And that even if we do

00:51:34.900 catch someone for a crime

00:51:36.120 and prosecute them and

00:51:37.620 send them to prison, 0.94

00:51:38.420 which is quite unlikely

00:51:39.540 these days, they run the

00:51:42.040 risk of just being

00:51:43.100 released.

00:51:43.680 You have to remember

00:51:44.900 that...

00:51:45.180 And given 500 pounds.

00:51:47.200 Only 5%, I think, of

00:51:49.660 total violent crime ends

00:51:51.520 in some kind of

00:51:52.500 prosecution or something

00:51:53.480 like that.

00:51:54.600 Exactly.

00:51:55.240 So the level of broken

00:51:57.200 capacity is beyond

00:51:59.220 anybody's imagination.

00:52:00.960 And it is therefore

00:52:01.920 reasonable to expect that

00:52:03.520 if they can't actually

00:52:05.360 catch anyone, there's a

00:52:06.700 good chance that they

00:52:07.260 can't actually keep

00:52:08.080 anyone.

00:52:09.160 The whole policing

00:52:10.400 system is on its knees.

00:52:12.400 And it's very obvious

00:52:14.000 that they're losing

00:52:14.640 control.

00:52:17.060 They have lost control,

00:52:18.620 rather.

00:52:20.040 We don't really have a

00:52:21.180 justice system anymore. 0.83

00:52:22.820 Then you get into the

00:52:23.580 question of why haven't

00:52:25.400 there been extra prisons

00:52:26.660 built?

00:52:27.820 And then you bump into

00:52:29.300 all the planning and the

00:52:31.680 natural NIMBY tendency.

00:52:34.200 So there hasn't been any

00:52:36.200 that I know of.

00:52:37.100 I don't think there's been

00:52:37.860 any serious attempt to

00:52:39.760 expand the prison estate.

00:52:41.320 But if they did, we'd

00:52:42.480 have the same story that

00:52:43.840 we've got with every

00:52:44.580 other important piece of

00:52:46.200 infrastructure where we

00:52:47.340 spend billions on

00:52:48.360 consultation to end up

00:52:50.080 with nothing.

00:52:51.600 Yet you look at what was

00:52:54.300 achieved in a very short

00:52:55.960 time at Camp Bastion.

00:52:59.060 Give it to the MOD to do

00:53:00.740 because if there's one

00:53:01.540 thing they can do quite

00:53:03.020 quickly and cost

00:53:03.980 effectively is temporary

00:53:05.420 structures surrounded by a

00:53:07.020 militarized perimeter.

00:53:08.380 This is the one thing that

00:53:09.280 they're good at.

00:53:10.080 So give the job to them 0.99

00:53:11.880 because you look at full

00:53:13.360 Sutton in North Yorkshire and

00:53:15.100 there's a prison in

00:53:16.560 Wakefield.

00:53:17.800 They're built on old RAF

00:53:19.580 bases and there's plenty of

00:53:21.320 room for expansion.

00:53:22.780 So, you know, the most

00:53:25.160 dangerous ones have to go

00:53:26.440 inside the walls.

00:53:27.340 But you could, if there were

00:53:28.640 the political will, you

00:53:30.120 could provide that extra

00:53:31.540 capacity in under six months.

00:53:33.700 But again, there are

00:53:36.440 answers.

00:53:37.240 Anything you look, any

00:53:38.420 single problem you look at

00:53:39.780 right now, there are

00:53:41.560 interim solutions and there

00:53:42.860 are long-term solutions.

00:53:45.120 But the political will is

00:53:46.820 simply not there.

00:53:48.360 And then you've got the

00:53:49.760 other part of it.

00:53:50.800 Everybody's tuning in for

00:53:52.120 this punch and duty PMQ

00:53:55.000 nonsense.

00:53:56.000 But the real business of

00:53:57.760 holding the system to

00:53:59.060 account is in select

00:54:01.140 committee meetings and

00:54:02.260 they've died a death.

00:54:03.360 When was the last time you

00:54:04.380 tuned in to watch a select

00:54:05.780 committee meeting?

00:54:07.360 I think probably the last

00:54:10.080 major one was around the

00:54:11.540 time of Brexit.

00:54:13.920 The trade committee

00:54:15.720 meetings, there was a lot

00:54:17.000 of public attention on

00:54:18.380 that.

00:54:19.960 The daily grind of

00:54:23.320 politics happens in the

00:54:24.540 back rooms.

00:54:25.340 You can't get the people to

00:54:26.980 take an interest in it and

00:54:27.880 you can't get MPs to take

00:54:29.580 an interest in it.

00:54:30.560 And so this is this is one

00:54:34.500 of the things that I keep

00:54:36.340 hearing on the right.

00:54:37.120 Oh, we're going to abolish

00:54:37.940 all these quangos because of 0.99

00:54:39.520 this, this and that reason.

00:54:40.800 It's like, well, we could

00:54:41.540 solve that tomorrow because

00:54:43.280 parliamentary select

00:54:45.120 committees have the power to

00:54:46.260 drag people in, grill them,

00:54:48.460 embarrass them, even

00:54:50.720 recommend to the minister

00:54:51.660 that these people are fine.

00:54:52.760 But who's actually doing

00:54:53.940 this?

00:54:56.180 Hardly anyone.

00:54:56.780 So, yes, the UK is in a

00:54:59.980 very absurd state and there

00:55:02.560 is a lot to be done, but it

00:55:03.700 can be done with the right

00:55:04.820 political will.

00:55:07.900 Right.

00:55:08.900 Thank you.

00:55:12.840 I'm sorry, but the more I

00:55:14.000 listen, the more I feel like

00:55:15.720 we're going to see the

00:55:17.080 reincarnation of them.

00:55:18.840 I can't read that.

00:55:21.460 Dear, dear.

00:55:22.300 Um, um, it's like Forrest

00:55:25.260 Gump, run, Haddish, run.

00:55:27.120 Oh, he didn't have to run.

00:55:28.240 He'd ambled gently and

00:55:29.720 slowly.

00:55:31.080 I also like that he ran

00:55:32.140 into other immigrants and

00:55:33.560 just started having

00:55:34.340 conversations on the street

00:55:35.880 quite often, it seemed.

00:55:37.040 Didn't need speaking

00:55:37.880 English after all.

00:55:39.260 No.

00:55:39.400 Actually, a hybrid of Forrest

00:55:40.620 Gump and the Truman Show,

00:55:42.220 I think.

00:55:44.880 And that would be an Oscar

00:55:46.480 winning film and I'm

00:55:47.420 claiming my rights to that

00:55:48.500 idea right now.

00:55:50.340 We'll get it made.

00:55:51.300 If you massively up your

00:55:52.540 donations, audience, we

00:55:53.640 can make that film.

00:55:56.220 Um, how many of the

00:55:57.760 social posters have been

00:55:59.700 released by mistake?

00:56:02.360 Well, the thing is, the

00:56:03.720 social posters probably have

00:56:04.860 a conscience and some

00:56:05.740 respect for the law of the

00:56:06.600 country.

00:56:07.720 Are you sure you should be

00:56:09.080 releasing me?

00:56:10.580 Um, so, um, have we read

00:56:14.460 these Rumble ones?

00:56:15.980 The police should put more

00:56:17.900 energy as resources into

00:56:19.380 finding Smith than

00:56:20.720 S assaulters, um, would

00:56:23.340 put more, sorry.

00:56:24.660 And I, I wouldn't be

00:56:25.500 surprised to be honest and

00:56:26.400 it'd probably be easier to

00:56:27.360 find as well because, um,

00:56:29.620 The community would be

00:56:30.380 cooperative.

00:56:31.040 Exactly.

00:56:31.640 People don't want to live

00:56:33.060 amongst fraudsters, whereas

00:56:34.120 in foreign communities,

00:56:35.360 they're more than happy to

00:56:36.380 cover up for, uh, their own

00:56:38.740 rapists and the like.

00:56:39.920 Like, and I, I saw left

00:56:41.440 wingers on Twitter talking

00:56:42.860 about that, that kid,

00:56:44.540 teenager who was sexually

00:56:45.940 assaulting young children.

00:56:47.520 Like, no right wingers have

00:56:48.820 condemned it and most of it,

00:56:50.140 most of the people online

00:56:51.100 said he deserves the death

00:56:52.080 penalty.

00:56:52.800 And then there was a picture

00:56:53.960 of his house that had, um,

00:56:56.840 child rapist spray painted on

00:56:58.380 the front.

00:56:58.880 I don't, I don't recall any

00:57:00.100 Pakistani grooming gang house 0.57

00:57:01.660 having that, uh, painted over

00:57:03.800 their house.

00:57:04.360 No, it didn't, didn't really

00:57:06.020 happen, did it?

00:57:07.620 And, um.

00:57:09.580 Shall we talk about Rachel

00:57:10.680 Reeves?

00:57:11.260 Of course, yeah.

00:57:11.740 We have to.

00:57:13.120 Yes.

00:57:14.220 I'm sorry.

00:57:15.420 We must.

00:57:16.320 I'll call up.

00:57:17.600 I'll go for a cigarette.

00:57:18.920 Yeah, don't worry.

00:57:20.720 Uh, this is just as

00:57:22.920 depressing.

00:57:24.220 Rachel Reeves, for the first

00:57:25.820 time, as far as the media is

00:57:27.780 concerned, had a lengthy

00:57:30.060 press conference, uh, on

00:57:32.680 Tuesday, where she seemed to

00:57:35.580 be laying the groundwork or,

00:57:38.760 you know, managing public

00:57:40.000 expectations for the coming

00:57:41.820 budget, which is due to come

00:57:43.020 out on the 26th of November.

00:57:45.180 And she's saying that she

00:57:47.580 wants to, uh, reduce the cost

00:57:49.840 of living, reduce the debt,

00:57:51.160 reduce NHS waiting times.

00:57:53.080 These are supposedly her 0.62

00:57:54.700 priorities, but the messaging

00:57:56.660 from her is very clearly that

00:57:59.240 there are going to be higher

00:58:01.160 taxes.

00:58:01.640 And maybe, maybe, maybe some

00:58:03.820 reduction in welfare spending,

00:58:05.860 although Labour did attempt that

00:58:07.680 a few months ago, and the

00:58:09.580 backbenchers absolutely revolted

00:58:10.960 and said they were having none

00:58:12.840 of it.

00:58:13.120 So it was pretty much a failure.

00:58:15.400 Uh, let's see if she tries 1.00

00:58:16.360 again.

00:58:16.900 But the messaging from Reeves is

00:58:18.960 very much that it is going to

00:58:20.980 be, uh, higher taxes.

00:58:23.460 Um, Andrew Marr here sort of

00:58:26.520 interviews her and tries to

00:58:28.000 discuss this with her.

00:58:28.840 And, you know, the questions

00:58:31.080 are pretty direct.

00:58:32.160 Which taxes are you going to

00:58:33.320 raise?

00:58:33.940 Well, and, and, and by how

00:58:35.480 much and so on?

00:58:36.380 And is that what you're saying?

00:58:37.780 But she tried her best to avoid

00:58:39.680 giving any clear and concrete

00:58:41.880 answers because the budget is

00:58:43.700 not due yet.

00:58:44.940 But the expectation is that

00:58:46.840 there's going to be a lot more

00:58:47.760 taxation.

00:58:49.260 Now, uh, this is being driven by

00:58:52.380 the, um, this is being driven by,

00:58:57.200 uh, the idea that there's been a

00:59:00.220 decline in productivity.

00:59:01.740 And the allies of Rachel Reeves are

00:59:03.900 saying that what she should be 0.93

00:59:05.740 doing is, uh, ignore what she had

00:59:08.820 said after the 2024 budget, which

00:59:11.320 is that the 40 billion in tax rises

00:59:14.100 that had happened in 2024 were a

00:59:16.620 one-off, they're not going to

00:59:17.980 happen again, et cetera, et

00:59:19.060 cetera.

00:59:19.940 And that she needs to simply take

00:59:22.540 the hit and increase taxes by

00:59:25.380 another 26 billion pounds.

00:59:28.220 Um, their view is that this must

00:59:31.460 happen.

00:59:31.880 But Labour's concern is that if they

00:59:34.420 break this manifesto promise that

00:59:36.700 clearly, because it was promised in

00:59:38.780 their manifesto that they would not

00:59:40.160 increase taxes on working people, that

00:59:41.820 they would not raise VAT, that they

00:59:44.040 would not do any of this stuff, um, it

00:59:46.540 is going to backfire even more

00:59:48.160 catastrophically and the Labour

00:59:49.460 Party would become, uh, even more

00:59:52.240 unpopular.

00:59:53.160 Is that even possible at this point?

00:59:54.760 Keir Starmer is less popular than

00:59:56.320 Prince Andrew.

00:59:58.880 I don't know what to say about that.

01:00:00.620 I don't know what to say about that.

01:00:01.980 I'm not going to say nothing.

01:00:02.940 It wouldn't surprise me, let's be

01:00:03.860 honest.

01:00:04.300 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:04.880 Um, the past tax rises fell very much

01:00:09.700 on businesses and businesses were

01:00:11.520 screaming as a result.

01:00:12.960 And we saw layoffs and we saw, um, just

01:00:16.900 a contraction in, uh, hiring and

01:00:19.440 everything of that sort.

01:00:20.680 But it looks like it's going to get

01:00:23.000 worse because the view from the left is

01:00:26.200 that Rachel Reeves' last budget, uh, simply

01:00:29.880 didn't go far enough in terms of taxing

01:00:32.100 the rich and that what required, what

01:00:35.140 is required is more taxation on the

01:00:37.860 highest earners, uh, whose upper rate

01:00:40.840 of tax is already 45%.

01:00:42.520 So basically, you know, you're working

01:00:45.140 half the week for the government and

01:00:46.500 half the week for your family.

01:00:48.480 Um, and that what's still needed there is

01:00:52.780 even bigger taxation.

01:00:54.460 And that's the way to restart growth

01:00:56.100 because under Reeves' projections, uh, there's

01:01:00.540 going to be maybe a one to 2% growth at

01:01:02.720 most in Britain.

01:01:04.740 This, weirdly enough, puts Britain at

01:01:08.080 near the top of the G7, but that only

01:01:11.060 shows you the abysmal state of the G7

01:01:13.500 because the Chinese are still growing at 1.00

01:01:15.060 four or 5%.

01:01:15.920 Well, it's like winning a race and you're

01:01:18.840 against people with one leg.

01:01:20.760 Yes.

01:01:21.040 Like, is that really much of an

01:01:23.100 achievement?

01:01:23.680 And of course this is, um, raising taxes

01:01:25.920 on things like business and rich people in

01:01:28.340 particular is especially dangerous in

01:01:31.240 Britain compared to any other country 0.78

01:01:32.880 because a significant portion of our

01:01:35.440 economy is predicated on financial

01:01:37.580 services.

01:01:38.800 And ideally you want to keep these people

01:01:41.000 in the country because they spend money

01:01:42.800 because they've got lots of it.

01:01:44.740 And if you mess with this, it, one of the

01:01:49.180 main perks of the British economy, which

01:01:51.780 is our financial sector, um, is impeded.

01:01:55.920 And then what do we have to compete with?

01:01:57.880 We're just a decaying island of former

01:02:01.120 industry, um, that is very expensive to

01:02:04.740 live in, expensive energy, high cost of

01:02:07.120 living, high crime rate.

01:02:08.820 There's no incentive for a business to

01:02:10.920 move here.

01:02:11.700 And, and so you lose the one asset we

01:02:14.400 actually had.

01:02:15.720 So I, I would firstly, violently agree

01:02:19.020 with you.

01:02:20.060 Uh, and secondly, make two additional

01:02:22.660 points.

01:02:23.080 The first one is that the problem with a

01:02:26.000 heavily financialized economy is that it's

01:02:28.200 extremely mobile, uh, financial, well, you

01:02:32.040 can't impose capital controls in Britain

01:02:33.760 because that would collapse the insurance

01:02:35.360 industry and the banking industry, which are

01:02:37.460 the two pillars of the city.

01:02:39.040 And without the contributions of the city to

01:02:41.100 taxation, it sort of vaporizes.

01:02:44.240 I do, you know, insult London quite a lot, but I

01:02:46.660 do have to admit that it is a net financial

01:02:49.260 contributor to a significant degree to the

01:02:51.460 rest of the country.

01:02:52.180 Absolutely.

01:02:53.060 Absolutely.

01:02:53.580 It's a massive contributor.

01:02:55.360 And so given that the financial economy is

01:02:57.860 very mobile, these are people who can easily

01:03:00.420 move to Dubai or Singapore or New York or

01:03:02.520 Milan and so on.

01:03:03.840 We've already seen the biggest exodus of

01:03:06.360 billionaires, of millionaires and billionaires

01:03:08.100 second only to China.

01:03:10.120 Um, so this is a bad state to be in to begin

01:03:14.260 with.

01:03:15.260 Um, but then there's something called the

01:03:17.060 Laffer curve, which is something that's been

01:03:18.860 known for many, many decades now.

01:03:20.460 And it explains that there is a point which, after

01:03:25.020 which, if you raise more taxes, revenue declines.

01:03:29.840 Because you're taxing people too much to the extent that

01:03:32.780 they either leave or step, stop working or are otherwise

01:03:37.040 disincentivized.

01:03:38.000 And therefore, you do not extract any more revenue with

01:03:41.780 more taxation.

01:03:43.020 There is a limit on how much taxation you can impose.

01:03:46.140 It's one of the most robust, demonstrable economic

01:03:49.000 effects as well.

01:03:49.920 There are so many examples of this.

01:03:51.720 Yes.

01:03:51.860 And what, Rachel from Accounts has never seen this curve.

01:03:54.660 She's not even from Accounts.

01:03:55.580 She's from IT support.

01:03:57.560 Yeah, apparently.

01:03:59.480 And there is a discussion over the precise shape of the

01:04:03.400 Laffer curve and how does it lean and to what extent does it

01:04:06.000 lean.

01:04:06.780 But the point that is clearly expressed is that there is a

01:04:10.740 threshold beyond which raising taxes more has a negative

01:04:16.080 impact on revenues, but if you are only committed to a tax and

01:04:21.020 spend policy as opposed to a reduction in spending and a

01:04:25.020 reduction in taxation, you simply can't acknowledge this.

01:04:29.540 And you therefore end up in this doom loop of more and more

01:04:33.560 taxation, less revenue, more taxation, less revenue, until

01:04:37.480 you break the system completely.

01:04:39.280 And there's an additional point here as well that I've been

01:04:41.060 screaming from the rooftops my entire career with reckless

01:04:45.020 abandon that the more money you have, the easier it is to

01:04:49.660 grow money.

01:04:50.420 People understand this from a personal, individual

01:04:53.360 perspective.

01:04:54.360 Yes.

01:04:54.480 The more money you have, the easier it is to make more money

01:04:57.040 at a higher rate.

01:04:58.760 But when it comes to a country, all of a sudden this

01:05:00.860 principle disappears.

01:05:02.360 But it's not true.

01:05:03.260 It's a mathematical, provable truth that the more of

01:05:06.920 something you have, the quicker it can grow, right?

01:05:10.140 This is the parable of the talents.

01:05:11.420 This is expressed perfectly in the New Testament, in the

01:05:15.740 parable of the talents.

01:05:16.900 And it's a well-known fact, and it's not debatable, I think.

01:05:20.940 So you're absolutely correct.

01:05:22.340 I agree with you completely.

01:05:23.740 And just to add one small additional thing, the fact that

01:05:27.900 we have such low growth compared to places like China, we

01:05:31.500 should be outgrowing China with the state of development of 0.99

01:05:35.740 our economy.

01:05:36.680 This one or two percent is unacceptable.

01:05:38.340 It's being suppressed by government policy, ultimately.

01:05:41.380 The countries with the most money should be growing the

01:05:44.380 quickest, not the other way around.

01:05:46.360 And this is a key point, that government policy is a drag on

01:05:49.260 growth.

01:05:50.160 So the reason that this new fiscal black hole emerged is because

01:05:56.320 the OBR is expecting productivity in Britain to decline.

01:06:01.500 They are saying that there is going to be a 0.3 percent decline in

01:06:07.920 productivity compared to their expectations.

01:06:10.440 Lower productivity means a smaller economy, means less tax revenues,

01:06:16.140 means the need to raise taxes as far as Reeves is concerned.

01:06:19.760 Although the counterintuitive and correct conclusion is that what's

01:06:24.340 required is a reduction in taxes.

01:06:25.680 But there are reasons for this, and I want to try to go over them

01:06:31.840 briefly, if you would allow me.

01:06:37.340 Oh, I think this one is not.

01:06:40.160 Yes.

01:06:40.560 Yes.

01:06:41.720 Steeper productivity cut of more than 20 billion.

01:06:44.780 Tax raises more likely.

01:06:46.580 The Treasury's forecast is preparing a steeper than anticipated cut to

01:06:49.940 productivity for the next five years, according to the Guardian,

01:06:53.240 quoting the Office of Budget Responsibility.

01:06:56.640 And Reeves is understood to be furious that the OBR has chosen her second

01:07:00.460 budget to downgrade the figure, which indicates how effectively workers can do

01:07:04.920 their jobs and underpins forecasts of economic growth.

01:07:07.460 So she's angry with the OBR, but she still wants the OBR to sort of be the

01:07:12.120 ultimate metric here.

01:07:15.320 Why is productivity falling?

01:07:18.200 Or why is the economy declining?

01:07:20.080 Well, one reason is because nobody wants to hire in Britain and to invest in Britain.

01:07:26.140 The other reason is Ed Miliband, of course.

01:07:28.380 The other reason is obviously Ed Miliband.

01:07:30.180 Yeah.

01:07:30.700 Absolutely.

01:07:31.860 And the reason they don't want to invest is because of new regulations that are

01:07:35.720 constantly being imposed, including this new employment rights bill that was the

01:07:42.680 zombie of Angela Rayner still haunting the current government.

01:07:45.980 And under this thing, what is going to happen is that companies will have to be held to account

01:07:55.360 for things like gender pay gaps and ethnic pay gaps.

01:08:01.800 And so if you begin with a proposition that generally the African continent has less skills

01:08:07.240 than the European continent, and therefore workers of African descent command less pay than workers

01:08:15.940 of European descent, that is a gap that must be addressed by the legislation.

01:08:21.500 And while it isn't clear how much this is going to be enforced in this current bill,

01:08:25.720 the government is constantly making it clear that they're going to enforce more and more of this.

01:08:29.400 And in case you were wondering, this was the reason why Birmingham Council went bankrupt,

01:08:34.400 because they were found to be paying different kinds of staff unequally.

01:08:38.800 But this is the kind of thing that's also hit Next and Tesco and a bunch of other employers,

01:08:44.180 where they were found that in some jobs they had 60% women and in others they had 47% women. 0.86

01:08:51.780 And in the jobs that were 60% women, which were the storefront jobs, 1.00

01:08:56.920 people were on average paid less than warehouse jobs that are more dangerous,

01:09:02.240 more difficult, more onerous in more difficult conditions.

01:09:04.680 And more skilled because you need to use things like forklifts, which you need training for.

01:09:09.240 Exactly.

01:09:10.740 These guys were getting a higher pay, but the courts decided that the work was of equal value.

01:09:16.240 So they decided to just gut the mechanism of the market.

01:09:21.140 I mean, the one thing that the market works at best is setting prices.

01:09:25.200 And they decided to completely gut that.

01:09:28.060 And then they did the same with the renter's bill that they just passed,

01:09:33.000 again gutting the market and restricting housing supply.

01:09:35.980 And they are saying that they're going to keep on doing this to focus more and more on ethnicity.

01:09:42.740 This is making Britain uninvestable.

01:09:46.240 And when a country becomes uninvestable, you get less capital.

01:09:50.240 And if you get less capital, you get less productivity.

01:09:54.160 Because what raises workers' productivity is more capital spending.

01:09:58.340 And it's also suggesting that it's being done at a sort of catastrophic rate,

01:10:04.180 that productivity is actually falling.

01:10:06.140 Because, of course, productivity should naturally be increasing

01:10:08.740 by merit of technological innovation that's happening all the time in the background.

01:10:13.080 So if a government hypothetically did nothing whatsoever, it would be going up.

01:10:17.800 So they actually have to be intervening to be making it worse for that to happen in the first place.

01:10:22.200 Which they are, actively.

01:10:23.700 Because they are ideologically disposed to intervening.

01:10:29.560 Yes.

01:10:30.280 They can't help themselves.

01:10:31.240 And if Rainer's bill gets passed,

01:10:35.260 something between a quarter and a third of all employers will be making redundancies and sacking workers.

01:10:42.240 Meaning that there will be more people on the dole, on welfare, etc.

01:10:46.800 Meaning an even bigger decline in productivity.

01:10:50.960 And so, Rachel doesn't seem to understand this, unfortunately.

01:10:56.660 But this is also happening at a time when FDI in the UK is falling.

01:11:00.960 It's still the second highest in Europe.

01:11:03.520 But this is the seventh year in a row where Europe has sort of had declining FDI in general.

01:11:09.660 So, second order effects of this, though, that preys on my mind.

01:11:15.160 Because as you see this contraction,

01:11:19.720 the kind of frivolous spending with disposable income that many of us are predisposed towards,

01:11:30.040 that's what's sustaining the large service industries,

01:11:33.460 which are primarily made up of migrants.

01:11:35.940 And once you start seeing families cutting back on Ubers, Deliveroo's, and all the rest of it,

01:11:41.840 you see a contraction of that.

01:11:44.640 And then you have a surplus of redundant foreign mails on our city streets.

01:11:50.640 And they are going to turn to crime.

01:11:53.680 And you presumably saw that report about the BBC report yesterday,

01:11:59.600 the structural fraud on our high streets.

01:12:02.460 We are going to have to police that.

01:12:06.240 And we're going to have to police more of it all the time.

01:12:09.280 But it's just going to explode to beyond even an enhanced trading standards

01:12:14.480 and all of those local authority inspections.

01:12:18.020 They're not going to be able to handle the workload.

01:12:20.180 So this is civil disorder edging into low-level civil war territory on a long enough timeline,

01:12:29.300 if this goes on for a long time.

01:12:31.280 And it will, because we are now starting to put high energy prices on our structural.

01:12:36.960 If this latest round of renewable subsidies gets embedded in, that's it.

01:12:44.040 You're probably not in my lifetime.

01:12:46.700 Will we ever see a return to reasonable energy prices?

01:12:51.540 And that's when your productive economy wiped out.

01:12:54.100 On top of this, mortgage rates are going to go up more.

01:12:56.800 People aren't going to be able to afford their homes, increasing homelessness, and things like that.

01:13:01.740 But sorry, do carry on.

01:13:02.640 No, no, absolutely correct.

01:13:03.700 Absolutely correct.

01:13:04.320 But world FDI is declining.

01:13:07.720 And this is going to be made worse by Trump insisting that FDI must come to America.

01:13:12.700 So any spare capital that you have must go to the United States.

01:13:15.700 It's still the safest investment in the world.

01:13:18.140 Because it's the biggest market and the greatest military power, you know, with some question marks.

01:13:25.060 And so this decline is structural, but Britain is offering nothing against it.

01:13:31.440 And is offering nothing to address it.

01:13:33.420 And FDI keeps on going down to Britain.

01:13:36.880 In fact, there's a difference in perception on each side of the Atlantic that, or at least it seems to be,

01:13:43.280 that the Americans clearly understand that you need to compete with Europe economically.

01:13:47.680 Which is actually fine.

01:13:49.200 You know, we're political and military allies, but you know, you economically compete with one another in sort of a friendly sense.

01:13:56.000 And whereas Britain in particular seems to just forget that, yes, we've got to compete with the US as an economy.

01:14:04.960 So what they're doing is important to inform our policy.

01:14:09.000 We don't, you know, we might live on an island, but we don't actually live in economic isolation.

01:14:13.040 And so it's important to pay attention to what's going on around you, capitalize on things in Europe.

01:14:20.160 Like the Irish were able to create a tax haven and become very wealthy out of it. 0.97

01:14:24.200 Why didn't we do that?

01:14:27.300 Why did we allow Ireland, which is a much smaller country?

01:14:30.040 And, you know, obviously I want you to do well and have nothing but best wishes for you.

01:14:34.160 But, you know, we missed that opportunity because we're not paying attention.

01:14:38.220 And to give an idea of how bad things are on the FDI front, it was almost 23 billion in 2022.

01:14:45.780 By 2023, it had gone down to 1.3 billion.

01:14:50.280 And this is before labor took power.

01:14:53.100 And now with these new regulations, the country is becoming even more uninvestable.

01:14:58.120 The other thing that's keeping productivity down is very obviously immigration. 1.00

01:15:01.940 If you have labor and capital, they need to work together.

01:15:09.840 You raise the amount of capital, the value that comes from labor increases.

01:15:14.040 If the alternative is to flood the economy with low-skill migration, like healthcare workers, 0.99

01:15:21.700 like supermarket checkout staff, like Deliveroo drivers, etc., etc.,

01:15:26.980 this is not going to add to productivity in any way.

01:15:29.800 And at the end of the day, the cost to the taxpayer is going to be much higher

01:15:35.680 because the Danes have actually studied this and they found that people from Middle East,

01:15:44.260 Africa, Pakistan, Turkey, etc., they cost the treasury more than they contribute.

01:15:50.260 And this isn't changing anytime soon.

01:15:53.140 And so when you bring in low-skilled immigration, there is less incentive to invest in capital 0.98

01:15:59.240 and productivity goes down.

01:16:01.740 So when Rachel says that she's angry with the OBR for this forecast,

01:16:06.240 she should be angry with herself and her cabinet for the policies that they and the Tories have been pursuing.

01:16:12.740 A lot of low-skilled immigration, of course, being crime syndicates and, you know, 1.00

01:16:19.440 wherever low-skilled immigration goes, you find crime with it. 0.94

01:16:22.320 But it's all eared towards the family unit funneling money back to their home country.

01:16:28.340 Yes.

01:16:28.540 So it's an outflow of money.

01:16:30.160 Exactly.

01:16:30.760 I saw a speech by Rupert Lowe in Parliament the other day where he said,

01:16:34.340 can we have some actual statistics, please, from the government,

01:16:37.620 basically on a breakdown of tax contributions by nationality?

01:16:42.200 And they, the spokesman for the government, basically replied and said,

01:16:46.180 oh, we all pay, we all contribute, we're all, you know, it's like, we're not, are we?

01:16:51.180 And everyone knows it.

01:16:52.800 Yeah.

01:16:53.000 Not just that.

01:16:54.040 He managed to harangue the government enough to release the figures on a breakdown by ethnic group.

01:17:00.420 And you see that the percentage of whites who are not contributing is maybe 26.7%,

01:17:10.800 which it's an aging economy.

01:17:13.600 It's a problem.

01:17:14.320 It's a big number.

01:17:15.520 But when it comes to Africa and Asia, it's just not comparable.

01:17:20.240 It's 40%.

01:17:21.860 And so when you bring more of the same here, you must expect the same result.

01:17:28.800 Things aren't going to magically change.

01:17:31.060 You'll get a genius like David Lammy every once in a while who must be in cabinet because he's so brilliant.

01:17:36.740 But aside from the high-paid earners like Mr. Lammy, you're not going to get very much.

01:17:43.100 And so there is this unrealism when it comes to immigration and productivity.

01:17:47.960 And then Rachel gets angry with the OBR.

01:17:51.420 And it's just not based on anything thoughtful or intelligent.

01:17:55.200 These people are genuinely dumb.

01:17:58.800 They, they, they, their ideology rejects any kind of acceptance of how the world works.

01:18:06.160 And even somebody like Larry Fink has acknowledged that countries with more xenophobic immigration policies are going to have a higher standard of living.

01:18:16.060 This is Larry Fink of BlackRock.

01:18:18.340 This is the WEF guy.

01:18:19.920 This is, like, this is as establishment as it gets.

01:18:25.000 And that's what he's saying.

01:18:27.060 Who do you think is smarter, Rachel Reeves or Larry Fink?

01:18:30.480 It's the worst time in human history to bring in mass immigration. 1.00

01:18:33.460 Not that there's ever a good time.

01:18:34.960 But things are becoming more automated.

01:18:37.000 There's less and less need for a large workforce than ever.

01:18:40.600 Presumably, things should be getting more efficient.

01:18:43.480 At least that's the historic trajectory.

01:18:46.760 And so where's the need to grow your population, basically?

01:18:51.640 Yep.

01:18:51.860 Especially from abroad, from savage countries that will cause so many problems. 1.00

01:18:57.400 And now, thanks to nice Mr. Ed Miliband, Britain has the highest energy costs in all of the G7.

01:19:03.700 Everybody's racing to reestablish industrial capacity.

01:19:09.440 Everybody's realized that transporting industry to China and to cartel-run Mexico was an insane idea.

01:19:16.080 And that industry needs to be brought back home.

01:19:18.760 Well, what does industry need more than anything?

01:19:21.220 Cheap energy.

01:19:22.500 You cannot have prosperity without cheap food and cheap energy.

01:19:27.260 These are the basics of prosperity.

01:19:28.920 If you have cheap food and cheap energy and a talented population, which Britain obviously has, you will have very good economic growth.

01:19:38.100 It is that simple.

01:19:40.840 It is that simple.

01:19:42.800 But they refuse to acknowledge this.

01:19:46.880 And instead, they're blaming the energy companies for making too much money.

01:19:51.920 Well, how do they end up doing that?

01:19:53.480 You subsidized the daylight out of green energy, made everybody else pay for it, and now they want to subsidize the biggest consumers of energy, which are the industrial sector.

01:20:07.320 How about no subsidies either way and use coal and natural gas?

01:20:12.580 We've got plenty of it.

01:20:14.760 Well, at least oil and natural gas.

01:20:16.960 And real growth in GDP per capita stopped when Britain stopped being a net energy exporter.

01:20:24.540 If you're not producing energy in excess, so much so that you can sell some of it abroad, you are not making money.

01:20:33.480 I mean, look at what the Norwegians did with their access to the North Sea oil fields.

01:20:38.380 They've got a sovereign wealth fund, which is the equivalent of $200,000 per citizen.

01:20:44.360 Yes.

01:20:44.620 So they can basically pay for every citizen's retirement quite handily, and then some.

01:20:51.360 And they can use all of that money to basically take care of their entire population.

01:20:55.740 I have to make another point here.

01:20:57.440 The Green Loons insist on using Norway as an example because Norway has green energy.

01:21:03.060 But Norway has green hydro energy.

01:21:05.680 Yes.

01:21:06.280 From water.

01:21:07.640 Not from windmills and not from freaking solar panels in Northern Europe.

01:21:11.940 The other component of this is we've invested heavily in wind.

01:21:17.360 And the original ideology was the vehicle-to-grid system, where when we had a glut of wind energy, that would all go towards charging up batteries.

01:21:26.160 And then when the wind drops off, then the grid would suck out juice from those batteries, including EVs.

01:21:33.160 EVs.

01:21:34.120 And so EVs are a major component of this grand utopian ideal.

01:21:39.380 But they didn't bank on the fact that nobody actually wants one.

01:21:44.080 And so this is something else.

01:21:46.400 It's a compelled economy.

01:21:49.540 They've got a utopian ideal of how things are supposed to work.

01:21:53.640 And in order for anything to actually work, it would require these people re-evaluate all of their basic assumptions about how things actually work in the real world.

01:22:03.600 And they're never going to do that.

01:22:05.200 These are utopian idealists.

01:22:07.420 And they just live in a fantasy world of their own.

01:22:09.940 And it doesn't matter what the signals are telling them, they are surrounded by lobbyists from the green industries, from all the wind producers telling them, oh, no, wind is nine times cheaper.

01:22:24.680 And, of course, we know it isn't, as the system costs to take into account.

01:22:28.360 These don't get angry.

01:22:29.200 But now they've decided that they need to tax EV drivers and impose more taxes on them because there is a budget shortfall, because they're not collecting enough money from fuel duty since people have adopted EVs or have adopted EVs.

01:22:50.760 So not only do they have this utopian vision, they don't understand any of the second-order consequences of their own vision.

01:23:00.980 They're trying to impose it by fiat.

01:23:03.420 Then it fails.

01:23:05.020 Then they try to tinker with the tax system again to see maybe this time it will work.

01:23:09.240 Well, of course, pivoting as well to the road charging tax rather overlooks that everything now is getting so expensive and incomes are declining that nobody's going to be going anywhere anyway.

01:23:19.820 Yes.

01:23:20.220 The only easy way to live is to work from home, work on the internet, and just simply not go anywhere.

01:23:30.300 Yeah.

01:23:30.640 It's not even as if you could go to the bottom of the village to have a pint in the local pub because they've shut the pub.

01:23:38.340 And even if they hadn't, well, a pint's 10 quid anyway.

01:23:41.260 So nobody's going to be doing that spending.

01:23:43.840 This is how you just get complete seizure of your wider economy.

01:23:48.920 Why?

01:23:49.540 They are simply stifling the economy, and that is because they are spending 45p out of every pound that is spent in the British economy.

01:23:59.560 Basically, they're stupid and they hate it.

01:24:02.540 And spending it on nonsense.

01:24:04.200 And spending it on absolute nonsense.

01:24:06.060 They're not getting results for the spending that they have because they are incompetent and they are stupid and they hate their own people.

01:24:12.240 And it's insane.

01:24:14.260 If 45% of your GDP is government spending, you're basically halfway to full-blown communism then, aren't you?

01:24:21.620 Yes.

01:24:21.860 It means that all of us collectively are literally working two and a half days a week for the government and two and a half days a week for ourselves.

01:24:33.160 So two and a half days of my week are spent to serve Rachel Reeves, and then two and a half days are for my family.

01:24:41.200 In the ancient world, we would be called slaves.

01:24:42.960 Yes.

01:24:44.120 I think in Exodus, it was a fifth that Joseph took from the Egyptians, and it was considered insane and extortionate, if I remember correctly.

01:24:58.560 So this is biblically bad.

01:25:02.240 I think what you're also going to see is an increasing number of people opting for cash-in-hand jobs or just under the tax threshold and being actually conscious to get their expenses right down.

01:25:16.120 Yes.

01:25:16.400 Come as a contractor, perhaps.

01:25:17.920 Like a certain ex-Lotus eater.

01:25:20.280 Oh, yes.

01:25:21.600 What could that be?

01:25:22.820 So basically, people are just opting out of paying tax.

01:25:25.940 And then when you've got Rachel Reeves saying, oh, we must all do our bit.

01:25:29.480 And it's like, well, F you, lady. 1.00

01:25:31.280 Exactly.

01:25:32.240 What is this shared endeavour I'm supposedly contributing towards?

01:25:37.260 I'm not on this particular bus.

01:25:39.920 And the best way to not give government any money is to not earn any.

01:25:44.920 And if you can somehow get your expenses below a certain threshold, which is possible still, then you don't have to give any money to this lady, which I certainly wouldn't.

01:25:54.800 So that's a consolation if you're poor and watching this.

01:25:57.480 At least you're not giving the government money.

01:25:59.240 And we're all joining you.

01:26:00.260 So 88 companies delisted from Britain in 2024.

01:26:05.880 And they're warning Reeves that if she goes ahead with these tax rises, this is going to hit everything that still exists in the UK.

01:26:12.800 And everybody's telling her this, but no, she's going to insist on it.

01:26:19.720 She's not going to change her mind.

01:26:20.980 The fallout of, don't forget that all of Europe has decided to self-implode as well.

01:26:27.260 This is the suicidal continent.

01:26:30.180 And that is going to have consequences for Britain.

01:26:33.860 Closest trade partners.

01:26:34.860 What you want to keep in mind is that France, Spain, and to a lesser extent, these days, Italy, as well as Britain, are all on the brink of a financial disaster.

01:26:47.820 Nobody can bail out an economy of that size.

01:26:50.320 And if there's a disaster in one of them, it is going to be contagious and it is going to spread to the others because the bond markets move in a certain direction.

01:26:59.880 And so even if Reeves manages this well, there are enormous risks already.

01:27:06.900 And she isn't going to manage this well.

01:27:09.380 Even Tony Blair is saying that this is a stupid idea.

01:27:13.740 The OG socialist is saying that this is a bad idea.

01:27:18.880 But they keep on doing it.

01:27:21.220 She thinks she can defy the dark world, does she? 0.98

01:27:23.820 I genuinely believe that Tony Blair probably could navigate this a little bit better, to be honest.

01:27:28.300 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:29.740 And the deputy leader of the Labour Party is celebrating Zoran Mandani.

01:27:34.480 Yes.

01:27:35.380 Because she wants more socialism.

01:27:37.720 I'm sure she does.

01:27:39.360 You know, for just one day in my life, it would be great to live on a continent that wasn't suicidal.

01:27:44.940 Just one day.

01:27:47.840 Yeah.

01:27:48.540 You can move to Antarctica if you want.

01:27:53.400 Penguins would be less stabby than some of the company around here.

01:27:56.280 The good news is, and I want to try to end with some good news.

01:28:00.180 Oh, thanks for us.

01:28:01.540 Is that if this does go tits up, there is no way that Keir Starmer can escape the blame.

01:28:10.080 He can't do what other prime ministers have done and simply sack the chancellor because he pretty much took control of economic policy

01:28:19.260 and seized a bunch of people who were working in Treasury and put them in number 10.

01:28:24.520 So he cannot, under any conditions, say, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't me.

01:28:29.280 And so maybe, maybe the May election changes things.

01:28:35.740 The bad news is that Ed Miliband is being spoken about as a possible successor.

01:28:40.120 I've heard this.

01:28:42.260 Second time.

01:28:43.800 Yeah.

01:28:44.340 Didn't exactly work out for him the first time around.

01:28:47.760 Maybe he can beat Liz Truss.

01:28:49.860 Let's see.

01:28:51.920 George says, wait until they start taxing bicycles too.

01:28:55.660 It wouldn't surprise me.

01:28:56.960 Yeah.

01:28:57.140 It wouldn't surprise me.

01:28:59.040 All right.

01:28:59.560 Well, for the sake of time, we'll head over to the...

01:29:02.420 Do we have video comments today, Harry?

01:29:05.280 Well, we don't.

01:29:06.320 Oh, we don't.

01:29:06.900 Oh, right.

01:29:07.300 Well, that makes things a lot simpler then, doesn't it?

01:29:09.560 For the sake of time.

01:29:10.540 All right.

01:29:10.880 I'll just go through a few comments from my segment.

01:29:13.060 And we've got Omar Awad who says, it's mad when any country allows any foreigner to hold political influence,

01:29:22.500 let alone voting or office.

01:29:24.200 Yeah, the fact that you're able to just turn up in New York and basically be given voting.

01:29:29.000 You're voting in, you know, less than five years for another person who wasn't born in the United States.

01:29:34.920 It was a propositional nation for Christian Europeans.

01:29:37.940 It wasn't a propositional nation for everybody.

01:29:40.460 There is one YouTube chat that we missed there.

01:29:44.600 One.

01:29:45.360 Isn't this why societies that relied on slaves eventually stagnated compared to places that didn't use slaves?

01:29:50.580 A good example is the North and South of the USA, which I agree.

01:29:54.280 Yeah, it is a good example.

01:29:55.420 And the North beat the South because of their industrialization.

01:29:59.080 Yep.

01:29:59.240 Although, you know, the South had the moral victory, in my opinion.

01:30:04.140 Lord Enquista Hectorek says, if Trump wins his birthright citizenship case at the Supreme Court,

01:30:09.980 it will crater a lot of illegal immigration.

01:30:13.000 What the right fails to understand is how to use a victory, not just achieve one.

01:30:17.920 Correct.

01:30:18.260 Well, that's true, but I don't know.

01:30:21.300 I don't have a tremendous amount of confidence that the deportations will really ramp up during Trump's second administration.

01:30:31.440 I feel like it will be something for the next one to address as well.

01:30:36.020 And on and on it goes, really.

01:30:38.320 I hope you're right, Rex, but I'm not as optimistic.

01:30:43.140 Anyway, do you want to go from yours, Josh?

01:30:44.720 Sure.

01:30:45.360 Kevin Fox says,

01:30:46.240 Circo seems to run the same way G4S runs, 25 managers for every security officer.

01:30:51.260 That way leads to chaos because being managerial types, no one wants to make the decisions.

01:30:56.360 So either nothing gets done or someone gets fed up of waiting for a straight answer and just goes ahead and chucks the guy out.

01:31:03.240 That is very, very true.

01:31:05.220 And White Rider says,

01:31:06.480 He has links to Tower Hamlets, has the same Vibas, has links to Al-Qaeda, and for good reason. 1.00

01:31:12.080 You're not too wrong.

01:31:13.480 I actually went to a mosque once in Tower Hamlets.

01:31:15.860 I got invited to debate whether Islam and liberalism are compatible, to which I said, no, obviously. 0.98

01:31:22.780 To a crowd of Muslims that applauded it. 0.99

01:31:25.640 Yeah, of course.

01:31:28.020 And I was just like, if you want to practice Islam, it's probably better you go home because this country is bad enough for us natives, let alone you lot. 1.00

01:31:34.260 But they like that for some reason.

01:31:37.300 Oh, wow.

01:31:37.860 And one more.

01:31:38.480 Lord Inquisitor Hector X says,

01:31:39.760 Starmer's one prisoner in, one prisoner out seems to be working a treat.

01:31:45.280 Oh, dear.

01:31:45.980 Yes.

01:31:46.540 Yeah.

01:31:46.760 I'm just going to read one comment from Daniel Butcher's.

01:31:49.800 In the last four years, minimum wage has gone up by 30%.

01:31:53.820 Four years ago, I started as a cabinet maker, furniture maker, that is, with zero experience.

01:31:59.360 And coming from an office job, I was about 17% above minimum wage.

01:32:03.860 After two years experience, a year-long intensive course, and a year working for myself, I got offered a job that would only just keep me at the same amount above minimum wage as I was two years ago.

01:32:16.700 So if this is the reality people face with minimum wage permanently catching up with work you in a more skilled and stressful work you have, why are people going to bother bettering themselves?

01:32:28.140 Absolutely.

01:32:28.960 There's no economic incentive.

01:32:31.080 And zero incentive.

01:32:32.460 It's insane.

01:32:33.180 It is.

01:32:33.700 I'll just read this honourable mention as well from Lars Simonson who says,

01:32:38.600 Remember, remember, the 6th of November, the day Luca Johnson got gotten, I see no reason why Josh Firms' treason should ever be forgotten.

01:32:50.760 It never shall be.

01:32:52.260 It never shall be.

01:32:54.660 Anyway, Peter, thank you so much for joining us today.

01:32:57.640 It's been wonderful to have your contributions.

01:32:59.520 I hope you've enjoyed it.

01:33:01.000 Faris, you're going to do an interview as well now, aren't you?

01:33:02.460 Yes.

01:33:02.900 So watch out for that, ladies and gentlemen.

01:33:05.400 Thank you for joining us yourselves.

01:33:07.560 And we'll see you at 1pm tomorrow.

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - November 06, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1290

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