The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1293
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Summary
The Lotus Eaters are joined by Dan and Josh to discuss mass deportations, the world's first trillionaire and why you shouldn't mess with India. Also, it's Armistice Day, so keep them in memory.
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1293 for the 11th of November
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2025. I'm your host Luca joined today by Dan and Josh. Hello. How are you fine gentlemen?
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Absolutely tippity top sir. Good. Very well, very husky unfortunately so sorry about that.
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Yeah he's been putting it on, taking it off, he's not quite sure what he wants his voice to be
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actually. Well it goes normal for a little while and then it goes back to this again. Yeah. I don't
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know why. Votes in the chat on which one you prefer. Anyway. Sounds very seductive Josh. Well
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thank you. Makes me feel a lot better. You're feeling quite seduced. Well yes, thank goodness
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there's a table between us. Anyway, today we're going to be talking all about how mass deportations
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have basically become normalised in Britain. Now we're at the point where everyone wants some and
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those that don't just look like weirdos really. We're then going to be talking about the world's
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first trillionaire and then we're going to be talking about how you just shouldn't mess
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with India or visit India I assume or there'll be some just good travel advice in this segment.
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There's multiple layers of depravity to unravel here. It's quite an S show, let's just say
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that. I see. Alright, so before we begin we just want to give a special shout out on Rumble
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for a £200 Rumble rant which is just here's beer money for the crew in the back from Blood
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for the Blood God. So thank you very much. That's tremendous. That is tremendous sir. We know
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that you've been doing that all week, possibly longer actually. Our man is scanning back through
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the logs now. So thank you very much. May I ask somebody else to chip in another £2 for
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Alka-Seltzer. And 60 pence for a pack of pork scratchings. Yes, why not? We should probably
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also mention it's Armistice Day today. We are. I was just about to, yes. No, it's alright.
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No, I was just going to. And of course it is, as Josh says, Armistice Day. So of course
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keep those men in remembrance. Remember what they had to endure during World War I, World
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War II and all the wars that Britain has fought. And of course, because if we don't remember
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them, well, no one from the establishment is truly going to. And none of the new arrivals
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much care either. So keep them in memory. Alright. I also just want to alert people to the fact
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that I have a new Chronicles out, which is a freemium one. So any of you can go and watch
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it. It was a delightful discussion that I had with Proper Horror Show, all about the
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ghost stories of M.R. James. Absolutely wonderful short stories, full of supernaturalism and just
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very, very charming writing. So if you're interested in that, do please go take a look.
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So, of course. Of course. Right. Are we back? Yes, we are. Okay. So, here in Britain, it seems
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like the old 20th century political sort of consensus is dead. Liberalism. It's dead. It's
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worse than that. It's dead, Jim. You've got the Labour Party that is facing extinction and
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you've got the Conservative Party that's facing extinction. Oh, actually, they rang me up just
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before the podcast. The Conservative Party rang you up? Yes. Yes, they rang me up and they said,
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we noticed that you've been a member in the past. Can we entice you to resubscribe? I'm not
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sure they were ready for what came next. No. You were quite curt, I expect. I ran through
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the top ten list of why I would never join that treacherous party ever again as long as
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I shall live. Based. Yes. Good. Response. And so, but really, what's more as well, we have
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the fact that, so, no one is satisfied with the red-blue paradigm that we've been living
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in for generations now, genuinely generations. But what's more as well, of course, this has
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forced people in the British public to look for other political opportunities, right, to
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look for fresh parties to put their vote behind. Because as far as the left are concerned, those
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who are of the Greens and the Jeremy Corbyn ilk, they're entirely dissatisfied with Labour
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because they wanted gay race communism. And Labour gave them gay race neoliberalism. And so they're
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not happy. And as far as the right wing and the reform voters are concerned, they wanted to live
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in England and make it a safe country for their grandchildren. And the Tories also gave them
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gay race neoliberalism. So no one's happy. No one's happy whatsoever. And we have this chart
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here showing you, from a recent Ipsos poll, really just showing the total dissatisfaction.
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You can see here, how united or divided does the United Kingdom feel to you these days? And as you
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can see here, 84% of people replied varying degrees of, well, it's not particularly united, is it?
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We don't feel so much like a united kingdom anymore. If it passes into this larger majority, do we need
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to start calling ourselves the disunited kingdom as well? Well, better be a kingdom at that rate.
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Moving on from that. But also, what's more as well, if I go through some of the other slides on here,
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there was one in particular that went on to say that 50% say that the culture is simply changing
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too fast, right? And I imagine that the other people are a collection of foreigners and Lib Dems
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who've not quite had the change thrust on them yet.
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It's also a bit of a loaded question in that the culture is changing for the worst. Too fast is beside the
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point. Any change in this direction is bad change, so any change is too fast.
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The question is sort of loaded in that direction to suggest that there is a correct rate of change.
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Well, yes, and this is exactly obviously what's killed the Conservative Party, the fact that they
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actually, in principle, agreed with the changes that were happening. They merely just disagreed with
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the speed limit. And so what's more as well, we also have the fact that 48% are saying that
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they want the country to be as it used to be. Now, again, that is a very vague way to frame
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a question, right? There are many ways that that could be construed. For example, some Corbynite
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could say, oh, I just want to go back to the way that things were, you know, back when we were all
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multicultural and proud during the Olympics or whatever it was, right? You can have that sort of
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I mean, to be fair, 2012 would be a lot better than now.
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But on this current trajectory, it's obviously going to be worse and worse. And so we have
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this problem now where actually as well, sorry, a lot of the people are realising the fact
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that 86% is saying that there is tension between immigrants and people born in the United Kingdom.
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And you can see that this is quickly rising in the space of two years as well. So we've gone from
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that time just around Brexit, where they felt like, okay, they voted for Brexit, we'll manage that problem,
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but essentially we'll nip their problems, their grievances with immigration in the bud,
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and we'll package it. Well, that's gone again, right? All of that work that they did to try and
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just pat down that issue was totally ruined by Boris, just shoving two million extra people in
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All it's done is increase the pressure in the pressure cooker more than anything, because now
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no one really trusts any mainstream politician and they know that they're going to add it to you.
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And the notion of a political solution to our problems, I think if there was polling for that,
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would show that people have less and less faith in that.
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I agree. And what's more as well, if I just go to this last one here.
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Here we go. So this here is not the anti-woke one. Culture Wars, sorry, so many sides. There's one
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in particular where it talks about here. The Green Party supporters are by far the most likely to feel
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transgender rights have not gone far enough, while Reform UK supporters overwhelmingly say
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they've gone too far. Now, obviously, I understand that the trans stuff is all a bit bread and circuses,
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but my point in actually getting up this slide is the fact that actually, away from the Labour Party
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and the Conservative Party that represented broader churches of the same thing, because of this
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factionalism that we're now seeing splintering off, that basically, on both sides, the camps are setting up
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their ideological principles. They're just saying, we are going to be unequivocating on this.
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So the Green Party are never going to capitulate on the trans stuff. They're never going to capitulate on it.
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I don't even understand what they mean by have not gone far enough. I mean, the mandatory castration
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of every baby boy born in Britain. I mean, what more could they want than what they've already got?
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They're already protected more than your average person in the eyes of the law.
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I know, I know. They're all living in the fantasy. It's a total fantasy. But also, what's more,
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we're at the point now, because none of the voters of Britain have really got what they wanted
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for a long, long time now. And so both sides, we're seeing, are becoming more and more uncompromising
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on all of these things. But the problem is, this puts us into a place where it just becomes a pure
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numbers game by the end. Okay, you're both uncompromising, so who has more? Who has more
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people on their side? And the good news is, of course, that going through all of these statistics
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and many other polls that have been had before, we are obviously in the majority, right? We are
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clearly in the majority. And the Green Party can't really, they are growing. And Zach Polanski is
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obviously, in some polls now, even overtaking the Labour Party. But the point is that they cannot,
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unlike Starmer, who is in government, and basically has to say, look, in order to maintain power,
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I at least have to pretend that I care. I have to bend my rhetoric, Island of Strangers,
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all the rest of it, in order to placate the gammons. You're not going to get that from the
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Green Party. Because if you do, they're actually betraying their core voter base. Everyone in
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Bristol, everyone in Brighton, right, will not vote for them. And so they can't bend on it. And what's
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more as well, as you have with Jeremy Corbyn, of course, he is also not going to bend. But you have
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now, of course, a position where veterans of World War II are looking around and saying,
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it's what we, we fought for our freedom, and it's worse, we're less free. We didn't, we didn't
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actually die during D-Day to be replaced in our country, to have a massive surveillance state
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brought in. And just to slowly watch, piece by piece, our politicians sell us out to every
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I mean, a lot of the polling I've seen has shown that the next election is going to be
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reform versus Greens. I mean, the Tories obviously are done. I mean, nobody trusts them. And their
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position at the moment on re-migration is reasonably good, actually. But nobody believes them, because
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they say this every single election, and then they betray us every single time.
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Even if they did mean it, they don't deserve to be in government.
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They should be punished for what they've done, because they've betrayed the country, and they've
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put us in this situation. And in many ways, they were able to do it far better than the
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Labour Party would have in the first place, because they had more political capital to do
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Yeah. And Labour, of course, are making a complete pig's ear out of everything. You know, you're
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considered far right if you don't want to see little girls murdered at a dance class.
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And they're bankrupting the country at record speed. So I can well believe it comes down
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Absolutely. And what's more as well, that in the minds of reform voters and other people
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who happen to be correct, of course, you have this position now where you can see it's
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so interlinked that if we address the immigration issue, then a lot of the other problems that
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we're faced with, we're slowly going to find a beginning to ease. And, you know, whether
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it be the stabbings, right, the actual just genuine criminality, the murders, the rapes,
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the thievery, and all of these sorts of things. But what's more as well, just the sheer amount
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of traffic on the roads, the sheer, well, the degradation of the high streets.
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Or not paying 30 billion a year to house them and give them benefits.
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Right. All of this, just everything, everything is connected to this. And so we have the older
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people, the people who actually bled and died for our country. They're not happy with the
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situation. And young girls as well here. And I thought I'd just play this because this
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I'm here to protect the kids and how I have the streets safer for when I have kids.
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Because I'm scared. Because I'm scared if anything's going to happen to me. Because being a white
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girl is really scary at this time. Loads of people call me racist for going to these. But I just want
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to be able to feel safe in my own community. And I just want to be able to walk the streets like
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You're not going to school at the moment. What's going, what's happening there?
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People are calling me racist at school for going to the marches. And they're calling me far right.
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But the thing is, I'm not far right. I respect everyone's cultures, their religion, where they
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come from and their background. I just want to be able to feel safe.
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Smart kid. Very smart kid. Obviously, she'll have had conversations with the parents, of course.
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But good for her parents. For alerting her to the danger. Right? For actually saying, look,
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no, it's not as safe as it was when we were growing up. And just, these are the conversations
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that this establishment consensus are forcing people to have.
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If your kid is a bit switched on like that, they're more likely to come home safe.
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Yes. I think it's something that we probably should have emphasized more on this podcast
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is that, yeah, if you've got children, it's bad enough in Britain now that you've got to
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explain to them the actual situation for their own safety. And it's obviously very, very serious.
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And it's to the extent of which that it's not even, you know, being sensationalist. It's
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not like when I was growing up and my parents were telling me about, you know, don't go home
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with strange people, normally strange men. Because that was hardly a problem where I grew
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My parents told me about if a van turns up and somebody offers to show you puppies, don't
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Yeah. I don't know if that ever happened or whether that was a TV advert at the time.
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Because that seemed, even looking back now, that seems really bizarre. But yeah, the point
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I'm very disappointed as you get to see the puppies either.
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But the point is, right, that everything on the new emerging consensus of the left have
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nothing to address that girl's concerns. Absolutely nothing. Because as far as they're concerned,
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those people that that girl is rightly afraid of are not only here in this country, but here
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to stay and to be given every single privilege and every single piece of political fortification
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to basically mean that they will never be able to be removed.
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Well, and even if they did do something to that little girl, they'd be out in a few years
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Well, a lot of the lefts and particularly the sort of Green Party types rhetoric is either
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not to acknowledge it's going on whatsoever and call people racist, or they'll just, they'll
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argue more tacitly, because they know it doesn't sound good explicitly, that
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this is an acceptable thing to happen for the sake of allowing refugees in, which is,
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I think, one of the most contemptible things you could possibly argue.
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I absolutely agree. And so let's actually, on that point, listen here to Rachel Millwood,
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the deputy leader of the Greens, and what her position is.
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There will be a day when we sit our grandchildren on our knees and we tell them,
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First, they came for the immigrants. So we hung out flags from all the nations and we said,
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Stunning and brave. Doesn't actually seem to be her position, though. I, sorry, I left the link,
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but she's now, she doesn't want 600 illegals put in her particular constituency on the army base.
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The funny thing is, she's both, she said in the letter, she made sure to say,
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I'm concerned about both the welfare of the 600 male asylum seekers and the locals, by the way.
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But anyway, allow me to talk about the quality of the facilities for a long time now.
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Like, hmm, are you sure you're not just trying to sort of add in a little tidbit there
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Right. So then we had this banger from Rupert, where he just said,
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we need to create such a hostile and unwelcoming environment for illegal migrants
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And obviously, what's more as well, there are many other such hostile measures.
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And not even hostile, but just measures that don't privilege, like you were saying, Dan,
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the amount of just money we just send to them through all the different government departments
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and welfare spending and translators in the NHS, just all of it just glunking up the system.
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And so it's not just that, it's obviously the legals as well.
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But this framing of a hostile environment really didn't seem to sit well with Zach Polanski,
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in particular, who says our entire political conversation under a Labour government
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They always frame this on the left, and they have done ever since Powell's Day,
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that as if when some political representative merely speaks on an issue,
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actually what they're doing is creating other people who then decide to agree with them
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is that they are representing the views of people within their constituency
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And it was that exact type of equation that led to Powell obviously crafting the rivers of blood speech
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because he'd heard from his local constituent in Wolverhampton
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that he was saying England won't be a good place for my children.
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And the thing is, Rupert didn't even say immigrants as a whole.
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He actually, in that tweet, he said illegal immigrants.
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So, I mean, would Zach say this about any other crime?
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But if Rupert said, look, we need to make it so uncomfortable for people who steal or murder or rape or whatever,
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but they don't do it, would he come out against that?
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It's also a very condescending way of looking at things.
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That he thinks that, OK, people just don't deduce that these people in their own neighbourhoods
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and these stories they hear from their own local newspapers,
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Everything is top down and people can't look with their own eyes at the problems
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But the reason he's skyrocketed to the place he is
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is because there's a massive appetite for politicians like him from the public in the first place.
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The reason Rupert Lowe has the position in politics that he does
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And it's not because he's convinced a large number of people that his views are important,
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although I don't doubt there's some degree of that going on.
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But I think the public had already made up their mind to a certain extent.
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But I also think that it's interesting framing here where he basically says,
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Because the point is, right, that the Labour government have gotten into power
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and gone, OK, we kind of got in on the women of fluke because the Tories just totally collapsed.
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And we do actually have to govern over a nation that is, at this point,
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well, totally against the illegal immigration, but also just highly anti-migrant generally.
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And Zach Polanski thinks that the problem here is that Labour just haven't made the case hard enough.
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That all of these people could actually have their minds changed to become gay-race Green Party communists
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if they were just willing to put the case forward.
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We're having those on the far left meeting those on the moderate right.
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And just basically because they actually realise,
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one, they don't have the numbers if it comes to a general election.
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So they have to at least convince a few people.
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Well, for all we say about democracy, they are going to actually have to persuade some voters
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to change their mind if they're going to have any chance of forming a government or a coalition
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But what's more as well, it's going to be impossible because we are going to have,
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and this is just a state of it, leading up to the next election,
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there are going to be many, many times that we are inevitably going to report
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on the latest migrant stabbing, the latest murder, the latest atrocity, right?
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The situation in England is only going one way,
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and this guy is just saying, don't believe your lying eyes.
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Well, the fate of the Green Party relies on their sort of pet people,
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pet migrants in the country behaving themselves
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and not committing heinous crimes, which we know are becoming increasingly, you know, severe.
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The police are increasingly having less and less capacity and political will to deal with it.
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The trend is already ramping up very much already.
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So when you have here his exclusive Zach Polanski and Jeremy Corbyn slam Rupert Lowe's
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utterly repulsive and deeply un-British social media comments.
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By deeply un-British, I assume they just mean not totally suicidal, right?
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Not just resigning Britain to a state of suicide as it's existed in for several decades now,
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British people used to have some actual self-worth and dignity
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and didn't like to be taken advantage of by every Tom, Dick, and Harry.
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So when the Vikings and the Normans turned up, we just said,
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And so Jeremy Corbyn, the former Labour leader,
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who is now establishing a new left-wing political party,
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also hit out at Lowe's comments, branding them utterly repulsive.
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this is an utterly repulsive incitement of hatred.
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The hostile environment was a shameful period for this country,
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and it is beyond disgusting that a sitting MP would call for its return.
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We need an alternative that will defend the humanity of migrants and refugees
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Like, you're not people I care who's, you know, condemnation of me.
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You know, you calling me disgusting or, you know, for supporting these things
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or Rupert Lowe disgusting, no one cares anymore.
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It's about having a future, about being safe, about your children's future.
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So, nasty words, not going to do anything anymore.
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And, you know, Rupert here, this is just a perfect template for how to respond to them,
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I should be absolutely condemned, calling it nasty and cruel.
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I'm very much of the view that allowing hundreds of thousands of unvetted young men
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from cultures that actively hate women and us to roam our streets is absolutely mental.
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Do I think that placing unchecked Eritreans and Afghan men into communities
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a Tory would have ceded to at least their framing, right?
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they are fighting a war against human nature itself.
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That is what they're actually trying to do here.
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that you can just send your children around the corner
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you know, walking past a migrant hotel or whatever.
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And more than being foolish, it happens to be evil.
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about them just based on their own voters as well,
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you can see here that actually what we're going to have in some way
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is a total rerun of what just recently happened with the American election,
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for all of Trump's flaws and problems with the MAGA movement,
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the Democrats were basically just going to give amnesty,
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Well, something like 10 million, possibly 20 million people
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for the rest of their entire careers, wouldn't they?
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So basically, I mean, it is just naked importing votes.
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All residents, it's about as naked and transparent
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So dismantle any check against anyone coming in,
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and then you're just going to get absolutely flooded
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I mean, I'm all for getting rid of most of the government,
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And so when we compared the Green Party's policy,
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But we compared that to the much more sensible policy
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when he went through the mass deportations policy paper
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And I think that it would lead to a much more harmonious society,
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that this chap here would actually have felt at home in,
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if only the poor man could have had it in his own time.
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You can't create civilisation without standards,
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and that's exactly what we're seeing play out at the minute.
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But the fact of the matter is that people can realise
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but the fact that you've had this coordinated strike on him
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shows that they recognise the scope of Rupert's power,
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the talent that he's actually cultivating around him as well,
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because they're doing really, really good work.
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is that the establishment has wanted to keep out
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is a place where your voice can actually matter,
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is basically just a socially unacceptable opinion, right?
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I'll just quickly go through these rumble rants.
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Just going to make sure my laptop's plugged in.
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He's the one who sold the country down the river
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I don't know who he's referring to by the old guy.
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could have really fought back against at the time.
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And ultimately, he put his life on the line at D-Day.
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Mass migration is part of the planned obsolescence,
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oh that's awesome samson glad you're having such a good time out there lad i'm very jealous
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oh there's a part two as well rubbing it in now
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oh don't show us how good the trains are i had to get the train this morning
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i haven't seen any litter yet in any of these videos
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a nice clean well-ordered society have a nice time samson
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since you are talking about this i just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that
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have an issue that i want to speak about people will hear
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as i set about doing some brief maintenance the mech's torso frame started to crumble in my hands
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and so though it is earlier than anticipated i've begun work on the public safe cockpit
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video comments of the build are to follow once i process the footage
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yet in my ruminations i am reminded that by the fruit ye shall know the tree
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and i dare say the fruit of my tree is rather persuasive
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just imagine how much cultural influence one's philosophy would have if you can get a mech out of it
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looking lovely and christmas-y there at the minute
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for those listening we're getting a bunch of tranny books
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yes i can only hope it doesn't get too many customers
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probably got time for one comment per section i would have thought
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uh they hate voluntary exchange that doesn't facilitate being a lazy spiteful communist
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and ran into a few um people from the audience and the like
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and the honorable mention again from uh cumbrian kulak
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i went with both picks but picked uh the mighty northern fells of blaine carthra
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i'd go for the english longbowmen and the roman soldiers
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aren't going to defend against an english longbow
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how you're going to beat the rest of the things on the list