The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1299
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Join the lads as they discuss the Epstein Files release, the Muslim ban and how the melting pot is doing in Dearborn, Michigan. Plus, we discuss the latest in the Trump administration and how they are handling the Epstein scandal.
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Welcome to the podcast of The Load Seaters, episode 1299 for Wednesday the 19th of November
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2025. I'm your host Luca, joined today by Harry and Carl. Hello. And today we're going to be
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talking all about Thomas Massey having a major win with the Epstein Files release. We're then
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going to be talking about what's been happening with the Muslims and Christians over in Dearborn
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in Michigan. And then we're going to be wrapping things up about talking about all of the unironic,
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I'm sure, wonderful benefits of diversity and the melting pot. Yeah, we'll catch up on how the
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melting pot's doing. Excellent. All right, so with all that said, no announcements, over to you Harry.
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All right then, so this is a further development in the Epstein Files case which has turned into a
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huge circus since the beginning of the year when we were kind of all just hoping that it would be
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released without a massive fuss. And then the administration flip-flopped back and forth over
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whether they were going to release anything. There was last week... It's on my desk, Harry.
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It's on your desk. But I thought they don't exist. It's a Democrat hoax except until we released a
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load of these emails, which was what happened last week, last Wednesday on the 12th of November,
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the Oversight Committee, which I believe is mainly run by Democrats in the House of Representatives,
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released a load of pages of documents received from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein. You can click
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on them and go to them. It takes you to a Google Drive. I tried to go through it, but it's massively
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disorganized and kind of a pain in the arse to find anything in there. There's loads of stuff in
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there. People have been making lots of articles and pieces about what is in there, but it's kind
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of a pain in the arse to try and find anything specific in there. There was deflections going on
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at the time. This was from the official White House page on Twitter, saying,
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let's talk about the Republican Party's record-setting achievements and not fall into the Epstein trap,
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which is actually a curse on the Democrats. Not us. Make America great again with this massive
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wallow text that was posted on the Truth Social account of Donald Trump. I miss when he was witty.
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I miss when it was just snappy witticisms thrown out there that really got everybody going.
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Quiet piggy. Yeah. Just like, cut through. Stuff like that was great, but now he's just
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started doing these wallow texts. He's, like, thankfully didn't post this one with the,
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thank you for your attention on this matter. That's kind of annoying that he does these days.
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But he's lost some of the charm with stuff like this, especially when he's like,
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the Republican Party's record-setting achievements this year. Which ones?
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Well, I mean, shutting the border. That's the only one that I can really
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give two thumbs up to. I can imagine that there are a lot of people who are pro the tariffs.
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That's fair, but still, it seems like deflection. The attempt at Doge is unnoble,
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even if it didn't really go anywhere. I mean, there are a bunch of things they've done that I do like.
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That's fair. That's fair. Still, though, for all of the things that were promised and either
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haven't happened or have been gone back on, the Epstein files being the most notable one.
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Yeah, he shouldn't have said that he was going to release them.
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Yeah, people were, people are a little bit understandable to want to figure out what's
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going on here. There were the further deflections. This was all spoken about on Monday when he was
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trying to call out Thomas Massey, who is the guy at the front of this particular story as one of the
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co-sponsors of the Epstein Transparency Bill, which has just passed, where Donald Trump was saying
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that, yeah, you're a terrible reporter for asking me questions about this. Thomas Massey's approval
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ratings are down the toilet. He should be talking, he should be getting on board with the Republican
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agenda. Bloody, bloody, blah. He just sounds like he is deflecting and scared of the subject.
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Which he is again, now, flip-flopped back on in the past day. And this was the, this, from
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the emails that were released last week, this was the big thing that people were talking
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This email exchange between Mark Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein, where, yeah, people were having
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a lot of fun with this particular bit where he said, ask Putin if he has the photos of
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Trump blowing Bubba. And who is Bubba? Bubba was supposedly the nickname of Bill Clinton,
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which sent a lot of people going like, oh my, oh my God. What's going on here?
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It's when they were putting out, sorry, just old tweets of, um, like Trump saying things
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like, yeah, Hillary just doesn't know how to look after Bill or stuff like that. Like,
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I think back to the Hillary Clinton one of, on this date, um, Bill Clinton will have the
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privilege of sleeping in bed with the next president of the United States.
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I just can't believe Bill Clinton's game, man. Like, he's getting it from everyone,
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Clearly it is. This, this has been clarified that Mark Epstein has now said that this was,
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This was just a completely different Bubba. He has said that he has declined to otherwise
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identify who this Bubba was. Personally, I think this was probably just like, like, bro talk.
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Who knows? Who, who knows? But it might have just been them, like, being funny.
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The point is as well, that regardless of what, you can speculate to the end of the day about
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what is the truth of it, but the internet is never going to forget this. This is just something
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now that is going to stick with these two people forever.
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Everybody did start immediately pointing out Donald Trump's, you know, dance moves that
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he likes doing. Oh, somebody's going to gif that.
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There you go. You can, that will be at the end of the next Lotus Eaters out of context.
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But this is mainly relating to now Thomas Massey's co-sponsored bill that has passed,
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which is the Epstein Files Transparency Act. You can see the summation of it here,
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and you can also find the full text of it here. Can I just go out of my way to say thank you,
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Thomas Massey, for making it so that the full text of this paper is only about a page and a half long?
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He's coming here from the, um, from the, uh, Paul, uh, which one was it? Not Rand Paul.
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Yeah, he's coming at it from the Ron Paul School of Legislation.
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I hate, I hate when they do those gargantuan bills, and it's like, this is like 5,000 pages
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long and nobody has read it, and it's just cramming in BS.
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Yeah, and we have hidden the load of stuff in it that's going to ruin the economy.
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Either way, so the summary of it is that the bill requires the Department of Justice
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to publish in searchable and downloadable format, which is nice compared to the Google Drive
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drops that happen where you can't search for anything. You have to just go through it
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text by text, or, uh, or document by document and hope that you find something. No, they're
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saying it has to be searchable, so if you want to search for a particular name, for instance,
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you'll be able to do that. It's to publish all unclassified records, documents, communications,
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and investigative materials in the DOJ's possession that relate to the investigation and prosecution
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of Jeffrey Epstein. I would imagine this also goes back to the 2007-2008 prosecutions
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and cases against him as well. This includes, one, materials that relate to Ghislaine Maxwell,
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two, flight logs and travel records, and three, individuals named or referenced, including
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government officials, in connection with the investigation and prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein.
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So we're hoping that through a lot of this, things like Alex Acosta saying that he had
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been given information that Jeffrey Epstein was attached to the intelligence community,
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which is why he was given the sweetheart deal in 2008. We're hoping that information like
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that will finally be clarified through this information drop that we are expecting now.
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The DOJ is permitted to withhold certain information, such as the personal information of victims and
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materials that would jeopardize an active federal investigation. But that does have some
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clarification within the document itself, within this bill. And it finishes in the summary saying,
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additionally, no later than 15 days after the required publication, DOJ must report to Congress,
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one, all categories of information released and withheld, two, a summary of any redactions made.
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And the bill is actually quite strict on how you redact things and whether you can redact things,
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which will be interesting to see how the administration tries to work around that. And three,
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a list of all government officials and politically exposed individuals named or referenced in the
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published materials. Because that's one of the things that people are so upset about at the moment,
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which is that you can say, well, we've released all of these emails, we've released this,
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and we've released that, but we want the specific names of who is incriminated by all of this
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information. And further, just to clarify a few things within the bill itself. So for instance,
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with the redacted information permitted withholdings, the Attorney General may withhold or redact the
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segregable portions of records that contain personally identifiable information of victims or victims'
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personal and medical files and similar files, the disclosure of which could,
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would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. It's a lot of stuff that you
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would expect and is quite common sense. I mean, good on this one. You know, obviously any graphic
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material should be redacted because that was one of the reasons they didn't want to release it. Oh,
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you don't want to release this too. So just redact that. It's all CP. Well, Thomas Massey,
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that was one of the criticisms that Massey got and referred to in some of the speeches where he said
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that they're saying that this won't protect against the release of CP. It's literally in the bill.
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Yeah, literally, you can redact that bit. That's totally fine. Obviously. And any awful images
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of death, physical abuse or anything else. But when it comes to the ongoing prosecutions and
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investigations, it has a provision here. Provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and
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temporary. Good. And it says here as well, all redactions must be accompanied by a written
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justification. Okay. Published in the Federal Register and submitted to Congress. So you have
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to justify it. You have to be transparent with it. You can't just release an entire page of black
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ink. Like they've done previously. Like they did in the first wave. Yes. Which was pointless because
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those were already documents that we had where they just blacked out all the information that we
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already had. Yeah. Very, very strange. And again, you've got all of this stuff where you've got the
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categories of records released and withheld. Summary of redaction made, including the legal
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basis and these names. And it all needs to be purely, it needs to be easily searchable.
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So for such a short bill, it covers all of its bases.
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Yeah. I can't think of anything that's left out.
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Yeah. Quite well. And this caused some controversy because a lot of people like...
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Are implicated in this and are going to go down for it maybe?
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Potentially. Potentially. I don't know why you would think such a thing.
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But people do seem upset, particularly Mike Johnson, the House Speaker.
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Was very against this for a number of different reasons. And Thomas Massey, before the vote
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went ahead, made a little speech where I think the most important and powerful part is at the
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Gentleman from Kentucky is right. Gentleman has five and a half minutes.
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That is so. And we've had a lot of good men doing a lot of nothing on the other side of
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the aisle. Until we did something. Three brave women and myself and the Democrat caucus.
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We did something. And then what did they do? They've opposed us every step of the way.
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They've lied about the legislation. Let me tell you some of the lies they've told.
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They've said that it doesn't protect victims. Well, if that is so, why were dozens of victims
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with us today at a press conference urging this body to pass this legislation?
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It's because this legislation specifically protects victims. They've said this legislation
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does not prevent the release of child pornography. Of course it does. We have a specific provision
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in our legislation to prevent that. They've said so many falsehoods about this legislation, but now
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they're going to vote for it. Hopefully, enthusiastically. But really, they've been drug to this.
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Our judicial system is broken. If it were working, there wouldn't be a thousand victims who haven't
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seen justice yet. They are victims of the Epstein class. I begrudge nobody's success that they become a
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billionaire. But if you think being a billionaire or buying politicians keeps you out of the judicial
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system, lets you rape young women, lets you traffic women, you've got another thing coming
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when this bill passes. Do not let the Senate muck this up. There have already been efforts to derail
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this, our discharge petition. The Oversight Committee has released thousands, tens of thousands of
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documents. That's fine. Keep working. How many names have you released? Zero. You are still protecting,
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or the DOJ is protecting, pedophiles and sex traffickers. The time for that to stop is now.
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Now, our speaker says, oh, this bill needs amended in the Senate, and specifically, he's trying to
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create a loophole. He's trying to categorize the pedophiles as victims. He's saying, oh, we don't
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embarrass the people that went to the rape island. We should protect those names against unreliable
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accusations. Is he calling all of these victims unreliable? They've testified to the FBI. The FBI
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has these names in their possession. I asked the FBI director in a hearing, have you looked at the
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documents? No. He trusts everybody that's been there for decades. That is wrong. Do not let the Senate
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muck this bill up. And if you are, if you're a party to that in the Senate, you are part of this
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cover up that we are trying to expose. I am sorry if one of your billionaire donors is going to get
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I mean, third page nasty. He's given them nowhere to wriggle out of it.
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It does give you an idea of the resistance that he's faced in the lead up to this as well,
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because people, this bill was drafted back in June or July, I believe, and has been struggling
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since then. You can hear from him that this has been a bipartisan effort because the co-sponsor,
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the main sponsor of the bill, Thomas Massey, is listed as a co-sponsor. The main sponsor
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is a progressive Democrat called Ro... Let me go back to find his name on the page itself. I don't
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want to get it wrong. Ro... Ro Khanna. That's... So this has been bipartisan. Obviously, it's got
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people like Marjorie Taylor Greene involved as well. But it seems that a lot of the pushback has
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been on the Republican side. And Massey here is not just inferring, he's flatly stating that he
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suspects that a lot of that is to do with people wanting to protect their billionaire donors who might
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have been involved in this, who might be worried that their name shows up on that. And you never know
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that some of those representatives themselves might also show up on that. The email leaks from last
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week alone have already given a lot of people a lot to work with in names who were in correspondence
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with Jeff Epstein as late as 2018. And that's right as the new investigation before 2019, when he
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killed himself had begun to ramp up. That's when a lot of the media speculation and media reporting on
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him began to ramp up again. And already we're getting news that a lot of beforehand thought
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trusted political operatives had already been in touch with him at that time giving their sympathies.
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So a lot of people seem to be ready to lose a lot over this. Despite that, despite that,
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it seems that Trump rallied a lot of people together because he flipped and said he was
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all right with all of this being released. And as a result, it was it was passed with 427 votes
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Well, Massey was saying that he basically was going to be able to pass it irrespective of
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Trump's endorsement. He said, look, I've I've done the rounds, I have the numbers. So either
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bear witness to, you know, America's either going to bear witness to the fact that your party is
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actually entirely split on this issue. Yeah. And you're going to show weakness to the entirety of
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the American establishment or just get behind it. Yeah. I don't understand Trump's positioning on
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this. It's been terrible. This has been the one thing that Trump has been genuinely terrible on.
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And so we know that they were really good friends for a long time until they fell out over a property
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dispute in Florida. And the only emails I've seen coming out that really the people of my
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see Trump told them to stop doing what they're doing. He knew it's like, well, listen, everyone
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knew what everyone knew. This is one of those open secrets in these these spheres. And so for
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to have Trump being like, you need to stop doing this. Well, that's, that's not terrible. Like
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that's better than most, isn't it? I mean, most people just silently complied. Well, I haven't
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seen those emails that you're all right. Well, the Democrats, I follow a bunch of Democrats on
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Twitter and they were posting around, but it's like, but that's not actually the worst thing
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that could have come out of these, you know, that's Trump condemning them. And then you've got
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other emails of Jeffrey Epstein saying Trump's a bad person. It's like, oh, right. Jeffrey Epstein
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thinks you're a bad person. Okay. Well, I don't know what I'm supposed to make of that.
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I don't take him as a moral source. So it's very, very strange because I don't think Trump
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is actually implicated. As far as we know, he didn't go on the Lolita Express and go to
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Epstein's Island. So, okay. Yeah. It's, you know, it's kind of a gross thing to have connections
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with Epstein, but everyone had connections. I believe Virginia Guffrey is the one that they
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most often reference as saying that Trump didn't do anything. Yeah. And he, yeah, he spent time with
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her and did nothing. Yeah. And that is also, I believe I've seen some reports that that's
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referenced in the emails as well. The ones that were dropped last week. And she said elsewhere
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as well. Yeah. Epstein mentioning like, oh, he spent time, he spent time with this girl in my house
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for a day or maybe days at a time. So that does seem to potentially line up with what she said
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before as well. But, but this is what I mean though. Why, why is Trump so inconsistent on this?
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And the only thing I can assume is he's trying to protect a bunch of people who are going to be
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implicated. As, as Firas was making the point on Monday as well, when we were covering this,
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it's not just obviously going to expose when all of this comes out in black and white, the dark heart
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of the American establishment, but numerous establishments around the world as well. Well,
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this, this is why I think the Republicans are against getting this out so much. I agree.
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Because there are going to be certain close allies in the Middle East who might also be affected by
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this. Well, I almost certainly believe that that is probably true. And also, let's be honest,
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our own intelligence agencies as well will be implicated with this. And that's the funny thing
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about the NAVO, the singular NAVO. Yeah, who was that guy? You can see there were five people who
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didn't vote at all. That guy was a man called Clay Higgins. Okay. And I looked into this guy very
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briefly, but what was going around on social media on Twitter was a clip of him at his door being asked
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by the cameraman or interviewer, you know, if, if you had to choose Israel or America, which one would
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it be? And to which his answer was, that's like making me choose between my wife and my child. I
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can't make that choice as a, as a US house rep. I don't know. As a US house representative, you
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should probably choose America. You would think. But also I thought, okay, okay. So it's just that
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he's some like a Israel shill or something. And then I looked into him on his Wikipedia page. And
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the interesting thing was that back in 1992, it said, which is obviously 33 years ago, but this is a
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hell of a political journey that he's taken. It said that he was a supporter of Pat Buchanan
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for his 1992 Republican run for US president. Obviously he didn't make it through the primaries
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and also was a supporter of David Duke's gubernatorial run as well. So that is a hell of a political
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journey. I know 33 years is a long time, but to go from Buchananite slash KKK supporter
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to, uh, don't make me choose between Israel and the US. I mean, very strange.
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According to track AIPAC, he's only taken $20,000 from Israel as well. That's yeah, that's
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not even a big number. He says that the reason for doing so was that he was trying to stick
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to principles, worried that similar to what Massey was pointing out there, that there's some
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people said that they had concerns that this will lead to false accusations from people.
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And to be fair, that's always a risk. That's, that's always a risk. You can't just take witness
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statements at purely face value, which is why I think a lot of the value of this comes from
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the actual documents that the DOJ has that will come from further investigations outside
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of just taking witness statements as well. But I do think it's important that we have access
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to all of this. The worry from here was what's going to happen at the Senate? Are they going
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to delay it? Are they going to mend it to make it completely useless, worthless? No, actually.
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It was passed in seconds. And Chuck Schumer, of all people, was the one who got it passed
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in seconds with no, it was unanimous. There were no votes against it. This was something
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that is very, very unusual. And it does, it does make me suspicious that there might be some
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chicanery. I can't say what just yet. No. But I am suspicious that there may be some chicanery
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going on here, given that Chuck Schumer is the one who pushes it through the Senate immediately
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within seconds. But it goes through with no amendments. So on the face of it, where we stand
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right now, that's amazing. Yeah, that's the best case scenario. That's amazing. Because
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the only person now that it stands between this bill and us getting the files within 30
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days is Donald Trump's signature. That's the only thing. And he said that he's willing
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to sign it now. You know what's weird is that Schumer in 2008 criticised Epstein's plea deal
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and called for government accountability on it. So he didn't want Epstein to get the sweetheart
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deal. Perhaps this is a principled stance by Schumer. Good for him, I guess. Perhaps
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the United States Senate is taking a principled stance on something, even against its own interests,
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maybe? Strange times we live in. I was going to say stranger things have happened, but I'm
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not sure that they have. But let's take it as a win. All right. Well, we'll see. We'll see
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what happens. Of course, Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, has said that releasing the Epstein
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files without redactions could pose a national security risk. Again, you're allowed to make
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redactions. You just have to justify them. Yeah. You can't just redact entire documents
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away for no reason. Instant straw man, then. Yeah. Mike Johnson. He has also been asked coming
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out of the House of Representatives what he thinks of it. Any reaction to Leader Thune
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you seeing the bill without adding amendments or changing it? I am. I'm deeply disappointed
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in this outcome. I think I'm told I've been at the state dinner. I don't know. I was just
00:24:23.780
told that Chuck Schumer rushed it to the floor and put it out there preemptively. It needed
00:24:28.840
amendments. I just spoke to the president about that. We'll see what happens. So is he do you
00:24:32.700
think he may veto it? You say you spoke to the president? I'm not saying that. Is he supportive
00:24:36.320
of it in its current form? We both have concerns about it. So we'll see. I was standing there
00:24:42.660
with the Crown Transmitter. Are you frustrated and the majority leader? Are you upset with
00:24:47.560
the majority leader? So he says he's deeply disappointed. Now, he did actually vote in
00:24:52.060
favor of it. Obviously, he is not the one guy who voted against it. But he was seemingly
00:24:58.220
hoping that the Senate would amend it heavily. He was counting on it. Yeah, he was counting
00:25:03.940
on it. And the fact that they didn't is what he finds deeply disappointing. He also made
00:25:08.260
this public statement as well. National security concerns, okay? The discharge requires the
00:25:14.460
attorney general to release within 30 days, quote, classified information to the maximum extent
00:25:21.700
possible. This ignores the principle that declassification should always rest and always has
00:25:27.980
with the agency that originated the intelligence. Why? So that they can protect their critical
00:25:34.220
sources and methods. It is incredibly dangerous to demand that officials or employees of the
00:25:41.760
DOJ declassify materials that originated in other agencies and intelligence agencies.
00:25:47.620
So say it might cause a national security risk. Yeah, but I mean, in his defense, he previously
00:25:52.920
contradicted Trump saying it's not a hoax, that the Epstein files are real and there is something
00:25:57.640
there. So in his defense, he might actually be concerned about national security risk.
00:26:02.720
I'll be interested to find out what that national security risk is and if it is to do with the
00:26:07.240
fact that Epstein was probably attached to the CIA in some capacity. Yeah. Because when
00:26:11.880
he says, oh, the methods used by the intelligence agencies, are you talking about Jeffrey Epstein
00:26:17.560
and his island being one of those methods? Yeah. Because again, I certainly believe that that is
00:26:23.300
the case. I believe that that's the case. I think there's a lot of evidence showing that that is how
00:26:28.680
the intelligence agencies have worked for decades now. And it also raises the question, if that is,
00:26:35.200
how these intelligence agencies get things to happen and get people to work for them on the side.
00:26:40.340
That's not leverage that you just let go. No, I mean, I suspect it's just one of the tools
00:26:45.160
that they use, but yeah, it's definitely the case. And it's also not a position that goes unfilled,
00:26:49.480
even though the guy who was in charge of it has mysteriously done himself in, in a jail cell that
00:26:57.360
was under 24 hours surveillance, except for that few minutes watching. Again, now this just means
00:27:03.620
that it's just Trump is the one guy in the way and people, is this, that's twice, sorry, folks.
00:27:12.180
And then there is the worry. There is the worry now that Donald Trump, as it says in this article,
00:27:18.720
has said he will sign the bill, which backtracks from his month-long opposition to its passage.
00:27:24.360
But Forbes are saying, here's why the DOJ's investigation could keep the Epstein files hidden
00:27:30.280
as the bill forcing release heads to Trump's desk. They say, while the bill requires the DOJ
00:27:36.440
to turn over its full files on Epstein, the legislation carves out the few exceptions that
00:27:40.200
we've gone over. Attorney General Pan Bondi confirmed last week that at Trump's direction,
00:27:45.460
the DOJ is launching an investigation into Epstein's tiles to such people in institutions
00:27:50.980
as former President Clinton, Democratic mega-donor Reid Hoffman, economist Larry Summers,
00:27:56.740
and JPMorgan Chase. Legal experts have speculated the Trump administration will use that probe
00:28:02.080
to justify not turning over many of the Epstein files under the federal investigation exemption
00:28:07.720
with former US attorney Barbara Cade telling Time the DOJ investigation could be a strategic effort
00:28:14.560
to block the release of further documents in the Epstein case. So I'm wondering if this being
00:28:19.980
fast-tracked and going through is to do with that. That would require a lot of coordination
00:28:24.900
and collaboration between Trump, Trump's DOJ, and even senators on the opposing side in the
00:28:31.420
Democrats. But if this is as deep as it seems to go, then that's not outside of the realm of
00:28:37.260
possibility. But we'll have to see if the legislation as it sits is enough to challenge that by forcing
00:28:43.480
them to justify any redactions and to justify any withheld information for the time being. And plus,
00:28:51.260
it is still on a temporary basis. If they withhold stuff over this investigation, how long will they
00:28:58.220
be able to do so? And will they drag out whatever this investigation is to prevent that information
00:29:04.120
being released if it is as things appear right now? The thing is, though, Thomas Massey has said
00:29:11.220
something pretty damning regarding this, which is if they are trying to delay it, if this does happen,
00:29:18.020
well, he's just going to read the names of the clients publicly in the house. He said he would
00:29:28.620
go that route if we hit all of the walls. So far, we're making it through the walls, but absolutely,
00:29:34.020
I will read the names of Epstein's alleged clients if they try and halt this, if they try and ruin this.
00:29:40.480
That's quite a threat. He's a brave man. Yeah. That is quite a threat. So, you know, I applaud the fact
00:29:47.840
that he seems principled enough to want to go ahead with this. Honestly, I'm genuinely worried about
00:29:52.700
their safety. Yeah, me too. I'm sure many people are. I'm sure they're worried for their own safety.
00:29:59.280
But if he does have the integrity to go through it at the risk of his own safety, then you've got to
00:30:04.980
respect that. Oh, I totally respect that. You have to respect that. So I do see this at the moment as
00:30:10.580
a win for Thomas Massey. We'll see if the administration or other forces within the
00:30:15.880
government and the deep state try to withhold this information for longer and what tactics they
00:30:20.900
use to withhold that. But for the time being, I'm excited to see what more information comes out.
00:30:26.140
I'm excited to see people reporting on it, and I'm excited to be able to get all of this in a format I
00:30:31.180
can actually bloody look through properly. All right, let's go through the super chats and rumble
00:30:36.120
rants on this. Have you guys rechecked your ancestry results? It had a huge update that
00:30:41.000
changed a ton of results and got way more specific. Yes. Oh, yeah, we did that the other day. Yeah.
00:30:46.240
This just seems like a complete cluster on both sides. I have no clue what's going on. There seems
00:30:50.300
to be more damage towards the Democrats than Trump. Potentially. Potentially. G'day, everyone.
00:30:56.740
Also, a bunch of Democrat judges also could prevent this from getting leaked as well. I keep
00:31:00.820
hearing it. I'm not sure if it's true or not. Well, if Thomas Massey just decides, yeah,
00:31:05.180
I'm just going to go for it, what does it make? Yeah, it doesn't, yeah. Bay Stape, it's my birthday
00:31:10.160
today, so you have to read this out. Grow your moustache back, pussy. Can I get a good old warg?
00:31:16.980
I assume he's talking about me. I assume he is. I assume so as well. Happy birthday, Bay Stape.
00:31:22.380
Yes, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. I would not have read that were it not your birthday.
00:31:26.600
You better not be sending in more ridiculous things next week saying it's your birthday
00:31:30.640
again, by the way. The engaged few. Threat to national security. Afraid of losing blackmail
00:31:36.320
material. Are we? Hey man, like national security is based on many things. Yeah, mainly blackmail
00:31:42.920
material, probably. A drunk changeling. A lot of Trump's actions make sense when you view them
00:31:46.920
as him avoiding getting JFK'd. When he could put the blame of releasing it on Congress, he
00:31:51.080
was all for it. Potentially. Potentially. Cranky Texan, the word bipartisan, usually some larger
00:31:56.180
than usual deception is being carried out, and that's a quote from George Carlin. Yeah.
00:32:00.100
Maybe. I mean, he is often right about that, but on this, I mean, I don't know, man.
00:32:06.580
Cranky Texan, assuming real information does actually get released. If some of it doesn't
00:32:10.080
elucidate Epstein's role in covert government financing and money laundering, then it won't be
00:32:13.800
complete. That's fair. Fair concern. Random name. Watch how Massey will mysteriously shoot himself
00:32:19.500
twice in the back of the head. As far as I know, the Clintons aren't involved with Massey
00:32:24.040
yet, but anyway, Tom Rapp. But they were probably involved with Epstein. Yeah, well, I mean,
00:32:29.220
where did that painting come from? Yeah. Why did he have... Yeah, exactly. Why did he have...
00:32:33.860
Oh, wait, no. Was that his painting, or was that... No, he had that in his Manhattan penthouse.
00:32:37.800
Was that Epstein? Wasn't it also... Was it one of the Podestas that had a weird painting
00:32:42.200
of Bill Clinton as well, or am I getting the two mixed up? The Podestas had other weird
00:32:46.200
paintings, but I'm pretty sure... Well, I know the Podestas had some weird paintings. Yeah,
00:32:49.000
I'm pretty sure it was Epstein who had the Bill Clinton in a dress painting. Yeah. I'm
00:32:53.960
just going to check that. Tom Rapp, glad to hear Harry reads Nine Gag also. I don't actually.
00:32:58.960
Sorry, I don't. Massey's bill will do nothing, as Mike Benz has stated... Yeah, it was definitely
00:33:02.900
Epstein. Yeah, okay, that's good. That's not good, but that's good to know. It's good that
00:33:08.160
we fact-checked. Yeah. As Mike Benz has stated, the only thing you need to know is if Tulsi
00:33:12.280
Gabbard has a file at the CIA on him. Well, I don't know that, and we don't know whether
00:33:20.040
why the CIA didn't do a name check on Epstein relating to this. He probably was involved
00:33:24.760
with them. And also, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss that Massey's bill will do nothing.
00:33:29.600
Yeah, it looks like it's pretty solid. It does seem pretty solid. We'll see if they manage
00:33:33.920
to do some shenanigans around it, but we'll see. And lastly, for $20, thank you, I'm a truck
00:33:39.500
driver, not Indian, real CDL, listening at 5am live in Washington State, Sogon of Applebee's
00:33:46.120
strongest soldier. That's what I like to see, but good man.
00:33:50.820
All right then. Well, so yesterday in Dearborn, Michigan, the streets were defined by conflict
00:33:58.560
and protests and marches between the Christians and the Muslims. Now, this was not quite of the
00:34:06.140
same calibre as, say, the Battle of Arsif or Jaffa, but it was still pretty.
00:34:10.880
It's not quite that big as a crusade, but we're getting there.
00:34:13.680
We are building something here that does seem to be, again, it's just a symptom of the trajectory
00:34:21.440
that many Western cities are now going towards. And as a consequence of that, I obviously have
00:34:27.620
a lot to say about all of the different sides of it. Before I do, though, I just want to point
00:34:32.500
your attention towards the latest episode of Chronicles, because Stelios and I have recorded
00:34:41.540
Sorry, just this screenshot that they've chosen of Stelios makes it feel like he's in a dating
00:34:55.260
No, that's all right. Anyway, the point is, it's an absolutely fantastic play talking about
00:34:59.820
all sorts of things between, oh, I don't know, blood feuds, vengeance, violence, civic
00:35:05.700
law, and the polity, and the consent of the minority as well, which is a sort of a decision
00:35:13.040
that Aeschylus comes to, that actually peace cannot be established without the minority
00:35:19.240
basically granting the higher wisdom that the majority have come to. And so what you're
00:35:25.960
seeing with this play here, what Aeschylus is working through, is a transition from the
00:35:30.540
old moral age defined by the Titans and towards a new, more reasoned sense of justice as exhibited
00:35:38.920
by the Olympians and by the wisdom of Zeus. So it's a deeply philosophical play. Please
00:35:47.980
So let's talk a little bit first, shall we, about the history of Dearborn. How did we actually
00:35:53.500
get here? How did we get to it being the first Arab American majority city in the United States?
00:36:01.380
Well, in fact, as it happens, this goes back quite a long way. Now, you see, there have
00:36:09.840
actually been Syrians and Lebanese people there since the 1880s, but these were, of course,
00:36:19.360
Yes. And a very, very tiny minority. But due to Michigan and Henry Ford and his factories
00:36:26.680
in the 1920s, that also brought in many other workers from that region of the world who were
00:36:33.940
obviously happy to take the new wage that Ford was proposing. And then, of course, so then
00:36:39.880
you have a few thousand within places like Detroit, places like Dearborn. And then, of course,
00:36:45.860
the critical blow, as is the case with basically the history of America, was, of course, the
00:36:51.880
Hart-Celler Act of the 1960s. And this ramped things up to comically unjust levels and obviously
00:37:00.620
was not what any American really wanted the trajectory of their cities to turn into. It
00:37:06.980
wasn't in the mind of the founding fathers that they would hand away all of their cities
00:37:13.160
built up by the European settlers over centuries to third-worldists who have no consideration
00:37:20.160
for the Constitution, for its heritage, and for the Anglo high-trust society that America
00:37:27.760
I mean, they explicitly stipulated white European men of good character, didn't they?
00:37:37.840
And obviously, this particular article from The Conversation is very, very proud of this
00:37:43.920
change that has happened to Dearborn. And I think that these two paragraphs in particular
00:37:48.500
are just worth reading, which is that, nevertheless, the Arab-American community continued to grow
00:37:54.660
and diversify. Iraqi and Syrian refugee populations began to arrive in the 90s and 2010s, respectively,
00:38:01.480
following wars in their homelands. Homelands. Interesting word. Not, obviously, native to
00:38:08.200
America. They settled in Dearborn and on its periphery in Detroit and neighboring suburbs.
00:38:13.820
Together, this new cohort of Arab-Americans joined the established community in fighting
00:38:20.140
back against Donald Trump's Muslim travel ban and other policies that discriminated against
00:38:25.800
refugees, migrants, and Muslims by building alliances with Democrats and engaging with
00:38:32.120
broadening civil rights coalitions represented by groups such as Black Lives Matter and the
00:38:39.020
So they immediately formed an ethnic bloc and started fighting for their own interests against
00:38:47.240
This is such a good thing. I always think, so did you say that Ford and his factories were
00:38:51.340
one of the reasons that people from that part of the world, I would assume Christians from
00:38:55.180
that part of the world, migrated there in the first place in the early 20th century?
00:38:59.580
Because one of the things I always think about, like, Michigan and Detroit and Dearborn, there,
00:39:05.680
I always wonder if part of it is not, this is going to sound conspiratorial, a punishment
00:39:16.500
No, it sounds like it was happening in his time.
00:39:19.060
But if Ford was one of the people who invited them there in the first place, then that's
00:39:23.680
kind of a knock against capital, really. The capitalist invited a load of foreigners who
00:39:30.780
ended up later being anchors for communities of more of them to come in.
00:39:35.540
On the plus side, at least we know that the coalition isn't going to last. I mean, if the
00:39:38.900
example of Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party is anything to go by,
00:39:41.940
we know that the Islamo-Communist Alliance is going to break up very, very quickly.
00:39:46.260
They couldn't even get an email name list out before somebody started trying to scam.
00:39:54.560
But you can see here, in clear black and white, that what they did was they just behaved like
00:39:59.660
Sadiq Khan, like Mamdani. They used multiculturalism as a wedge to break the unity of the heritage
00:40:06.140
of America, the white Anglo's heritage of America.
00:40:12.300
Yes, exactly. And so, and then we got to this article from, I'm not giving you money,
00:40:18.860
this article from The Guardian from just a month ago saying,
00:40:22.080
I don't feel safe anymore, says Dearborn's Arab Americans on the rising Islamophobia.
00:40:29.740
Turns out that it wasn't, as the article just pointed out, a, actually a place with healing,
00:40:38.160
And now you get to know how the Lebanese Christians felt.
00:40:40.320
Yeah, by the diversity. And so, naturally, as the Muslim population of Dearborn increased,
00:40:47.860
Americans had to deal with particularly American Christian ambience, like this.
00:41:07.440
See, that looks like an otherwise really nice little suburban street.
00:41:10.720
You look at that without the sound, and you think, oh, I bet that's a very pleasant place.
00:41:21.040
And obviously, if you think that you're going to have any sympathy from the mayor on this,
00:41:35.420
Yeah, of course not, because it's your religion broadcasting the call to prayer.
00:41:39.480
Well, he shows us that the call to prayer is within the legal limits of what the sound
00:41:48.100
And so, therefore, what are you complaining about?
00:41:50.860
Me going down your neighbourhood and honking my horn at half five in the morning is also
00:41:57.140
You still wouldn't tolerate it, though, would you?
00:42:00.580
And then, so, he has other thoughts as well on multiculturalism and diversity, which we'll
00:42:07.280
Because what you often hear that's accompanied with that is, well, you must assimilate.
00:42:10.620
Like, I shouldn't put out a magazine that's in two languages.
00:42:22.200
But to me, it's like, I actually disavow the use of the term, the melting pot.
00:42:28.800
Because in a melting pot, when you're talking about like a soup, everything looks the same.
00:42:33.980
Well, the lettuce is lettuce, the tomato is tomato, the cucumber is cucumber, and they
00:42:40.580
Now, for me, the salad bowl simile is really just the Inglorious Bastards meme of this.
00:42:45.680
Because, obviously, America isn't a salad bowl.
00:42:54.820
But what he's basically saying is, look, you have all these distinct flavors.
00:42:58.800
And, actually, you can just put marmite in your burger.
00:43:03.660
Actually, I quite like the idea of marmite in a burger, I've got to be honest.
00:43:14.180
There are some ingredients within the salad or the burger that are naturally a part of it.
00:43:19.740
And there are others that simply don't belong in that dish.
00:43:23.560
But also, I mean, to say that we're going to move to your country, and then we're going
00:43:26.980
to repudiate the idea of integrating into your society, and form our own ethnic enclaves,
00:43:32.780
which are, I mean, what he is arguing for you, is basically just a colony.
00:43:40.540
That gets the same benefits from the local states that everybody else should be entitled to.
00:43:45.240
So what he's just saying is, let us be a parasite.
00:43:53.880
Literally just a foreign colony that is extracting resources from the majority native.
00:44:01.860
And what's more as well, some of the Muslims who are growing up in Dearborn are, suffice it
00:44:10.440
So we have this here from Ahmad Musa Jabril, who served six and a half years in prison for
00:44:18.240
conspiracy, fraud, money laundering, and possession of firearms and ammunition, and is a popular
00:44:25.880
Oh, you know it's going to be good when you can see the memory TV popping.
00:44:31.120
But this is exactly the sort of thing that you get from these sort of things, these communities.
00:44:36.880
...just happens to hold the opinions that basically the assassination of Charlie Cook was a praiseworthy
00:44:42.220
of the action, and he condemned other Muslims who did condemn it.
00:44:52.400
Why don't we have the memory subscription, guys?
00:44:58.120
So then, of course, I'm just teeing up with all of that to say, this is the sort of environment
00:45:07.900
And so, naturally, you can't expect the white WASP heritage Americans to just accept this,
00:45:18.480
to just accept the mayor coming out and saying, actually, we can speak in Arabic as much as
00:45:23.020
And actually, it doesn't matter if you wake up every single day and slowly see your culture
00:45:36.500
This is the thing I've been warning Americans about.
00:45:38.660
When they, you know, they're like, oh, look at what's happening to England.
00:45:41.120
It's like, well, it's happening in America as well, man.
00:45:47.520
And so, I've purposefully, one thing I just want to make clear as well is that there were
00:45:52.780
different protests that were going on yesterday, and they were not of the same flavour.
00:45:57.620
And I have different things to say about both of them.
00:46:00.900
But for now, let's just talk about this one here, because this was led by Jake Lang, who
00:46:16.020
So, one of the January 6th hostages, along with a, what was his name?
00:46:23.960
So, these two people, and we can see the type of protests that they were putting on.
00:46:39.020
So, Americans against Islamisation, American flags, all seems very sensible on the surface.
00:46:44.520
But then you eventually had behaviour like this.
00:46:47.900
Now, I'm not saying it's not funny, but he went on to basically slap the Koran with a
00:46:57.400
At which point, what did you think was going to happen?
00:46:59.860
You know, I'm not even sure we should play it, being on YouTube.
00:47:02.820
I know that sounds, like, hypersensitive, but...
00:47:08.720
But anyway, obviously, as you can imagine, for all the Muslims, they didn't take that
00:47:15.380
But the point as well is that this is not just walking down the street saying, we're Americans,
00:47:21.240
It's going straight to the most provocative thing to encourage violence and to basically
00:47:30.120
All this is, really, is a video designed for clickbait.
00:47:34.300
It's just designed for internet sensationalism.
00:47:37.000
It's not actually addressing the concerns of the local people.
00:47:42.720
Now, there is also this video from Cam, which I'm less interested in, his position there
00:47:49.480
and more for you to just get a view of the crowd themselves.
00:48:08.600
And so then we, of course, had more of this, more shouts of Allah Akbar and all of this.
00:48:14.900
But the thing was that everything that Cam was doing and that these gents were doing
00:48:28.980
It was really for their own clout, for their own visibility.
00:48:32.480
And ultimately, as well, they are very, very critical of the Islamisation of the United
00:48:43.740
But also, as well, we have to consider the fact that Cam recently met with Netanyahu.
00:48:52.780
So, like with many things, we have sort of a Zionist-backed agitation movement.
00:48:58.820
But then simultaneously, we have the other protests that was going on.
00:49:05.500
Sorry, it's not a picture of him, but I'm going to start talking about Anthony Hudson.
00:49:09.960
Now, Anthony Hudson is actually currently running as a Republican candidate for governor.
00:49:15.240
And he basically wanted to say that we want to protect America against Sharia law.
00:49:23.320
He doesn't seem to be in with those people who I've just previously named.
00:49:30.200
But what's more as well, his drawbacks are the fact that he is one of those boomers who
00:49:37.760
doesn't actually want to touch the ethnic component of it.
00:49:41.440
And so both sides see a part of the picture, but they're not looking at it in the actual
00:49:48.820
And given the stakes that we're now at and how late the hour is...
00:49:59.500
But I think this is perhaps one of my broader points as well, is that if a solution is going
00:50:06.960
to come to this, it's not going to be from within Dearborn itself.
00:50:11.100
Because, of course, by this point, being the majority demographic, the Muslims have the
00:50:16.980
And so nothing can really be achieved by marching on the streets of Dearborn.
00:50:22.980
If a solution is to come, it has to come from the federal government.
00:50:28.160
And when I drew on earlier, that radical jihadist who was saying awful things about the assassination
00:50:38.620
of Kirk, he and several others were, of course, deported because of what was said.
00:50:47.620
And if these are the most radical and you see all those faces in the crowd, as I pointed
00:50:51.880
them out to you, these are just the high profile cases.
00:50:55.860
This is not just the average ghettoized community.
00:50:58.980
The community itself supports these people, which is why they operated in that community
00:51:03.880
Those communities gave birth to those radical figures.
00:51:07.160
And so we have to suppose that the community is a reflection of their beliefs.
00:51:13.080
And so really what we have here as well is the problem is that Anthony Hudson, and I want
00:51:19.940
From what I've seen looking around several videos of him, Anthony Hudson seems like a really
00:51:29.620
He's obviously a heritage American, and he is deeply troubled about what is happening.
00:51:36.600
He is Texan, but obviously he's not looking at it by city by city.
00:51:41.500
He's just seeing what's happening to his nation, to America as a whole.
00:51:47.760
The problem is, of course, that if Anthony hopes to accrue any sense of political influence
00:51:54.220
in Dearborn, then that necessitates giving at least lip service to the Muslims.
00:52:01.540
And so we have videos online of Anthony in the mosque saying, look, it's not as bad as
00:52:09.140
This is like the Democrat in Minnesota speaking Somalian, isn't it?
00:52:14.420
I was about to ask what his chances are looking like.
00:52:17.360
Well, to be honest with you, I probably should have checked that, but I haven't, because ultimately
00:52:24.180
I was going to say, if he's having to make these kinds of concessions, then it means no
00:52:31.420
You can tell it's already, the battle's already been lost.
00:52:34.100
And what's more as well, to just read a little bit further from this article, they basically,
00:52:39.740
the Council on American Islamic Relations, Michigan chapter, which is a thing, said that
00:52:47.540
it welcomed Hudson's apology in a news release.
00:52:51.480
The statement said that Sharia as a concept has been misunderstood and used to ostracize
00:52:58.340
And so we welcome, quote, Mr. Hudson's remorse for his admitting fear-mongering against the
00:53:04.460
Dearborn community and American Muslims in general, said Executive Director Dawud Waleed.
00:53:11.000
We invite him to further discussions to learn about the Islamic faith and what Muslims generally
00:53:16.480
believe counter to false narratives and misinformation.
00:53:19.840
So they're inviting him for a struggle session, for a re-education struggle session.
00:53:23.780
And so, again, it just comes to a point, you are Americans, if you are serious about the
00:53:30.720
survival of your nation, coming up to its 250th anniversary, and God willing, you'll have
00:53:36.420
250 more, you have got to address this route from, address this from the route of federal
00:53:43.480
You're not going to be able to do this city by city, especially as the years go on, the
00:53:53.360
And the open borders came from the top in the first place.
00:53:58.600
And it cannot be basically used as a skin suit for provocation, you know, by actors who
00:54:09.620
have foreign interests and foreign allegiances, nor can it be achieved through basically boomers
00:54:17.020
who are not addressing the key aspects as to why all this happened in the first place.
00:54:23.140
But nonetheless, for Anthony, I still do commend his bravery for going out there in a very, very
00:54:32.460
And not just one hostile environment, several hostile environments, because also the other
00:54:40.140
crowds were graffitiing his boss as well, writing the word cook on it, which is mature and helpful.
00:54:47.340
And so I have a, there are shortcomings on all sides of this here.
00:54:52.720
But if you are serious, if you want to address it, you've got to get your elected representatives
00:54:57.860
into Congress, into the Senate, and you've got to bang the drum on this.
00:55:12.140
From Xenothean, who says, I'm once again asking for Luca to regrow his mustache.
00:55:28.880
I just, I never, I only ever had it for that one period of my life when I first started.
00:55:33.500
And now they are, that's how the name in the want it back.
00:55:42.800
You have very distinct looks that people remember and recall you for and want you to go back to.
00:55:50.140
But then you immediately start switching them up rapid fire.
00:55:55.200
So there are so many distinctive looks that nobody can ever point in mass to one that they
00:56:06.920
Grow your hair out as long as possible and then overnight shave it for no reason.
00:56:11.280
Grow out mutton chops and then grow a monobrow and then shave your hair, your face completely
00:56:18.480
Yeah, you see, this whole purple shirt joker vibe is really starting to come through.
00:56:24.340
Wear sunglasses on Lad's Hour for no reason just to stand out from the panel.
00:56:32.640
So AC75 says, load seaters, not so sure you want to push ancient Greek virtue, can't trust
00:56:44.480
Well, that's obviously not really what Plato was writing about.
00:56:53.020
It's just talking about the Athenian ponchant for younger.
00:56:56.720
Metatron has an excellent video going through that, as does LeatherApril.
00:57:04.400
They both have very good videos going through the evidence.
00:57:07.780
Basically, what that is, is a progressive, massive over-exaggeration and cherry picking
00:57:14.520
of very scant evidence to try and paint a picture that is a lie.
00:57:31.820
Wesley, 1924, says, whenever I order a salad, I pick out all of the olives.
00:57:40.560
I'm not going to hear a bad word against olives.
00:57:44.760
On that note, I was going to call this, are you enjoying the melting pot?
00:57:48.180
But actually, maybe I should call it, are you enjoying the salad bowl?
00:57:50.940
Because we are actually living in the benefits of multiculturalism and diversity, as was projected
00:58:01.220
We can see that the term melting pot, which is the one that they used to use up until about
00:58:06.100
five minutes ago, came from this play by Israel Zangwill, who is an Eastern European Jewish
00:58:13.340
immigrant to America, who wanted, ideally, for all races and nations to basically disappear.
00:58:21.980
The play itself was about a world where, as you can see, all ethnicity had melted away
00:58:28.820
and he falls in love with a beautiful Russian Christian immigrant named Vera.
00:58:31.840
And so you've got this particular section from it, where the hero David says,
00:58:39.900
Listen, can't you hear the roaring and bubbling?
00:58:42.160
There gapes her mouth, the harbour where a thousand mammoth feeders come from, for the
00:58:46.260
ends of the world to pour in their human freight.
00:59:01.340
How the great alchemist melts and fuses them with his purging flame.
00:59:04.560
Here they shall all unite to build the Republic of Man and the Kingdom of God.
00:59:09.560
Ah, Vera, what is the glory of Rome and Jerusalem, where all nations and races come to worship
00:59:14.040
and look back, compared with the glory of America, where all races and nations come to labour and
00:59:29.520
It immediately goes to, and of course we've got to start in America, where they're actually
00:59:33.380
open to allowing, or they didn't try to start it in China, for example.
00:59:39.620
Well, it's just turning the entire world into Brazil.
00:59:45.960
As you can see, this is where the term melting pot was popularly popularised.
00:59:56.860
Right, so everyone's just going to come here, become the same, and then we'll have the Republic
01:00:00.820
of Man, and the Kingdom of God, and everything will be perfect, and everything will be wonderful.
01:00:04.960
So I thought we'd have a look at just how that's working out for us.
01:00:07.360
This is also a sentiment which has been widespread for years, and spread by a lot of very liberal-minded
01:00:17.020
Like, somebody in the Super Chats had mentioned George Carlin.
01:00:20.260
George Carlin spoke in the 90s and early 2000s about how, one, he would like to see all
01:00:27.660
Oh, he probably was saying that since the 70s and 80s.
01:00:29.800
Yeah, and two, that he would like everybody to end up the same shade of brown through
01:00:34.380
intermixing, which just sounds like a way to completely destroy all variety of culture.
01:00:43.220
That Anthony Bourdain, or whatever his name was, the celebrity chef guy.
01:00:47.440
There's that clip that goes around of him tasting different foods across the world,
01:00:51.460
where he goes, the only way that we can get rid of all conflict in the world is by just
01:01:00.480
Okay, let's assume that, do we really think that would be the end of conflict?
01:01:05.100
I believe in the Middle East, a lot of them are all the same shade of brown.
01:01:08.840
Do people only ever fight over different skin shades?
01:01:14.720
In fact, very rarely is a war declared because the other guys are a different colour skin than
01:01:21.320
It's also just this weird fetishisation of the idea of mixed-race people being better
01:01:30.920
Yeah, which is, again, it's just a weird form of racism.
01:01:33.940
But you can see that what this is, is essentially the liberal ideal.
01:01:39.840
This is an old idea that liberals have always had in their heads, where actually we are not
01:01:44.440
married to our place and time and purpose, and therefore we can just...
01:01:49.040
extract ourselves from the context in which we are born and raised, and the values, and
01:01:53.000
the norms, and the customs, and the cultures that we have, and we can all just become the
01:01:58.500
It's like, no, that's obviously not happening, and so how are things going?
01:02:02.040
I mean, we're all living through the ethnic melting pot, or should I say the salad bowl
01:02:06.580
at this point, and this is something that Anna Kasparian and Tucker Carlson brought up
01:02:10.620
is like, well, hang on a second, this isn't perfect.
01:02:12.780
The other thing is, even if you're doing well, even if you're affluent, do you really want
01:02:20.100
to live in a country where as soon as you walk outside your door, there's a massive homeless
01:02:26.400
You know, do you really want to live in a country like that?
01:02:29.260
Do you want to live in a country where close to 100,000 of your fellow Americans are dying
01:02:35.020
of drug overdoses, and our government seems to not really care much, and in fact, exploits
01:02:40.300
that as a talking point to justify a potential war with Venezuela, which has nothing to do
01:02:51.640
And the benefits of being in the salad bowl, or the melting pot, however you want to describe
01:02:56.820
And so, I mean, we've become Americanized just like America.
01:02:59.800
You'll remember Ed Davey on the train going, hang on.
01:03:06.900
I keep saying the Liberal Democrats are a racial party.
01:03:14.040
They just don't realize that they are part of the salad bowl.
01:03:22.440
And they're hearing the tomatoes and being like, why are the tomatoes making all of this
01:03:28.460
They're not like you, and you don't understand them.
01:03:30.300
Ed Davey, I guess you're like, yeah, that was racist, Ed.
01:03:35.200
That was you being a racist right there, which is funny.
01:03:41.060
But that's why this was your most popular post in years.
01:03:45.800
Which is why, like, you were actually hitting on a real issue that has come from the mixing
01:03:52.340
Because they're not forced to adopt your customs.
01:03:57.620
Because they still act as if they were back home.
01:04:04.180
Because actually, you know, a lot of the Lib Dem voting heartlands are still obviously
01:04:10.280
And so actually, they're coming into contact with the diversity on the trains when they're
01:04:16.640
Yeah, when they're traveling to London, they interact with the diversity.
01:04:20.380
And they're like, my God, why are they being so rude?
01:04:26.960
So if we give every Lib Dem voter a week-long trip to Brixton, the party immediately is radicalized.
01:04:37.760
The Lib Dems are not actually haters of Britain.
01:04:40.540
The second that machetes are running down their street, they're going to vote for the
01:04:44.520
They just think that they can, you know, they live in essentially the Isles of the Blessed,
01:04:52.280
And it's like, okay, but you're not going to live there forever.
01:04:57.200
They're living in the Shires and everything's great, so they can't understand why you're
01:05:03.120
Anyway, so there was this clip going around from an American train where this woman is
01:05:07.520
trying to persuade, you can see she's an elderly lady.
01:05:11.120
And customarily, if, you know, Harry, you were sat on a train and there was an elderly
01:05:15.360
lady there saying, oh, my legs are really hurting, can anyone give up the seat?
01:05:18.540
I mean, you might think by giving up your seat.
01:05:25.220
Any takers, I'll give you everything in my pockets.
01:05:32.520
I'll give you money, I'm not asking you for money.
01:05:34.880
I'll take you to get up off your seat and let an old woman.
01:05:54.280
But all of the people around her, not quite sad.
01:06:04.680
In previous eras, it's likely that someone would have just got up and given her a seat.
01:06:11.520
You notice how they're all different ethnicities as well.
01:06:14.880
Like, you know, these people, you know, don't share anything between each other.
01:06:27.560
Well, this is one of the things that's very informative about those Amazon studies that
01:06:33.640
had been done on Amazon warehouses, where they had a diversity index, where they were
01:06:38.980
basically trying to min-max everything within the factories to prevent strikes, to prevent
01:06:46.620
And one of the things that they found was that a more diverse workplace was one of the biggest
01:06:53.420
indicators that it would not unionize, that it would not begin striking and working as
01:07:01.840
That's one of the reasons I perhaps feel like our countries have had their borders opened
01:07:10.440
is, this is something AA has spoken about a lot recently, and I do think it's true, which
01:07:15.700
is that organized capital likes diverse workforces, because one, it means that the price of labor
01:07:23.520
goes down hugely, two, it reduces the chances of them striking, because none of these people
01:07:29.280
Even in the early 20th century, in late 19th century, when the labor market in the US was
01:07:35.340
flooded with new labor because of the abolition of slavery following the Civil War,
01:07:40.440
what was it those new black workers were used for a lot of the time?
01:07:48.680
They were being used, taken advantage of, it has to be said, by capitalists to break these
01:07:55.920
That's not saying that we should all be communists or socialists or that markets are inherently
01:08:00.120
terrible or anything, but from the perspective of human action, what people did, that's what
01:08:06.500
And this is one of those points where the sort of Gary Stephensons of the world just can't
01:08:14.480
Well, you're in favor of diversity and immigration.
01:08:19.680
Your politics allows them to get to this point.
01:08:22.200
But that Amazon thing, that might be worth going to a bit of a deeper dive on, because
01:08:25.900
I've spoken about it before, but I can dig it up again, because it is interesting.
01:08:30.460
And then, so, you know, you get videos like this.
01:08:35.120
Because she's just like, you know, what am I, what, what is going on here?
01:08:42.540
Just towns full of strangers, people who you don't recognize.
01:08:56.020
I mean, you know, is this the kind of country that you actually want to live in?
01:09:00.240
Where you just have small groups of people who, like, essentially cloister into themselves?
01:09:06.180
It really is indicative as well of how that whole idea that Israel Zangwill was putting
01:09:11.320
forward of the melting pot, bringing the best out of everybody, was completely wrong, because
01:09:19.020
Because you see her walking around like that, and you see the kinds of shops these people
01:09:24.320
They are the same as are infesting so many high streets across England.
01:09:38.680
You know, the sort of international franchise that can be run by any people from anywhere
01:09:47.080
It's like, okay, we're going to get a couple of people from each different area of the world,
01:09:53.000
So it's like, okay, but this is not actually different.
01:09:55.320
You know, this is just sameness, just a kind of, you know, but again, I guess we say diversity
01:10:02.460
But anyway, so yeah, now you've got the sort of diverse society.
01:10:05.800
You get lovely stuff like this, you know, the river of rubbish in Oxford.
01:10:14.820
Harry, can we zoom in a bit on the screen, just because the pictures are a little bit
01:10:22.380
This is an industrially processed stream of rubbish that's just been fly-tipped in Oxford.
01:10:38.460
In one of the most beautiful parts of the country.
01:10:39.980
The part that inspires Hulking Shires now looks like this.
01:10:44.440
This is just part of being in, sorry, I keep saying the melting pot.
01:10:50.260
There are, you know, diverse happenings everywhere, like immigrants stealing from the honesty boxes,
01:10:59.340
I mean, you know, good sense to cover their faces.
01:11:08.540
You can't have the normal things that you grew up knowing about and expecting.
01:11:17.700
I mean, that should just be grounds for deportation right there.
01:11:21.460
The honesty boxes for me is like the institution of the countryside.
01:11:26.560
It shows that I am in non-occupied territory if there are honesty boxes.
01:11:31.900
If they're going and taking advantage of that the same way they like to take advantage of
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everything to do with our high trust society, gone.
01:11:41.840
I'm not even going to give you a boat or a ticket.
01:11:43.920
I'm just going to give you some armbands and a life raft.
01:11:46.660
Yeah, but then there's, you know, there's stealing from honesty boxes.
01:11:50.180
But then there's just these where it's just brazen shoplifting in, you know, major stores
01:12:04.080
It's like, look, man, I actually don't want to live in a salad bowl like this.
01:12:08.200
If this is the product of the salad bowl, I don't want this.
01:12:12.140
I don't, like, it doesn't personally affect me, but it does speak to the kind of tone
01:12:18.820
and the kind of people that I'm sharing a civilization with.
01:12:27.800
It's a psychological, it's a psychic tone, an undertone that then affects everything
01:12:36.900
It's because there is this knowledge nestled in the back of your mind.
01:12:40.100
I cannot trust the people that I am surrounded by.
01:12:45.280
If something bad were to happen to me for any circumstance, these people would not support me.
01:12:52.080
And the thing is as well, like, okay, I don't break the rules because I think it would be
01:12:57.800
But if someone doesn't think it's wrong to go and steal, what else do they think is not wrong?
01:13:02.320
Like, I don't know that they're not prepared to go further than that and that this wasn't
01:13:10.140
And as you say, this ruins the trust in the society itself.
01:13:19.080
But anyway, that's just, again, some parts of the salad bowl.
01:13:25.480
And it's just really remarkable how the salad bowl is full of people with so many conflicting
01:13:46.100
You know how many young English children would wish for the opportunity to go to Oxford.
01:13:53.060
And instead, we've got hysterical members of the salad bowl screeching and shouting at them.
01:13:59.640
That looks like something straight out of a mid-2000s reality show.
01:14:03.960
When they're at the club and everything breaks down.
01:14:07.720
And yet, this is now the society in which we're living.
01:14:10.860
These are just normal events, occurrences, in the multicultural...
01:14:16.420
Like I said, I shouldn't say melting pot, because they reject the term melting pot now, but in
01:14:23.120
So, let's go on some more diverse happenings, shall we?
01:14:33.980
But the Bangladeshi community in Tower Hamlets is bloody angry about something happening in
01:14:46.400
I can't even understand what they're complaining about, because it's not in English.
01:14:51.760
Probably angry that the British government haven't built them an airport in Bangladesh
01:14:56.620
Apparently, the ex-Bangladesh leader, Sheikh Hasina, has been sentenced to death over a
01:15:04.520
So, okay, I can see why the Bangladeshi portion of the salad is very upset about this,
01:15:19.720
You sat there eating your salad, and it's like, ah, the tomatoes are going, rising up
01:15:31.340
It's, like, genuinely like something, someone has put something deeply unpleasant.
01:15:37.740
You have, apparently in Nottinghamshire, two men brandishing knives at a Christmas market
01:15:49.500
This is the most delicious Caesar salad that I've ever had.
01:15:52.840
It's just literally lunatics with knives in the middle of the salad.
01:15:58.160
It's like, this is, this is just not what anyone asked for.
01:16:06.000
And so the question is, okay, well, are we enjoying what they have done?
01:16:14.600
As you can see, large crowds of Muslim men walking through the Christmas market chanting,
01:16:26.900
There's something about this that genuinely annoys me on a, on a gen, not even, I don't
01:16:37.560
want to say spiritual level, but there is something about it that's like, you know, what, how has
01:16:45.620
You know, like the Christmas market for anyone who doesn't know is a nice European tradition
01:16:49.660
where we go to nice little markets and buy little things for people for Christmas.
01:16:56.900
And this is just some sort of psychic attack on the very nature of the way that we carry
01:17:03.280
I mean, if it's not enough that we have to have diversity bollards outside all of the
01:17:06.980
Christmas markets, I mean, I guess we should be thankful they're not driving a car into
01:17:14.260
The thing is as well, that as far as the establishment's history with dealing with this sort of thing is
01:17:20.620
concerned, of course, every now and then we might, you know, thank them so gratefully that
01:17:25.780
they've deported one person, five people, whatever it is.
01:17:29.540
But the point is everyone there should not be in Germany.
01:17:34.540
But the problem is as well that one of the reasons why the situation, why people are getting
01:17:38.940
so angry as well, they would have been less angry if the establishment had just had the
01:17:44.380
foresight to go, well, actually, there is at least a standard of foreigner and their behaviour
01:17:54.160
But what we didn't even get that, it was actually, no, once they're here, they are here in perpetuity,
01:18:00.620
regardless of whether or not they're the worst scum in the world.
01:18:04.040
And they connect as an anchor to bring all of the rest of their family as well.
01:18:07.940
And moreover, there's no obligation put on them, right?
01:18:10.940
As in, like, if we were going to have immigration, we should have said, right, there will never
01:18:15.040
be a foreign temple and a foreign church, a foreign mosque or whatever in this country.
01:18:26.800
And if, you know, if we were serious about immigration and integration, then we would have
01:18:37.960
And it ties back to my former point, which is spend.
01:18:46.860
You come here and you keep money changing hands at our markets, at our big corporate stores.
01:18:53.640
But the point being, if this was actually being done for the good of the population, then
01:18:59.420
it would have had, it would have come with really overbearing social rules.
01:19:02.880
It didn't, because exactly right, it was done for capital.
01:19:07.060
And in fact, they're completely honest about it.
01:19:13.500
I mean, after Brexit, there was that guy who ran, I think he might still be in charge
01:19:17.520
of Next, Lord Wolfson, who said that, oh no, I'm hoping that there are no immigration
01:19:22.940
restrictions put in place, because we need the workers.
01:19:25.840
Well, Boris heard you loud and clear, Lord Wolfson.
01:19:27.980
Because it's not like English teenagers could ever get a job at Next, like all of my friends
01:19:36.000
And then, just finally, you get these events where it's just on the underground, apparently
01:19:40.600
some kid with a machete ran past and everyone's panicking.
01:19:42.700
I'm sure everyone's glad to be in the salad bowl at this point.
01:20:11.860
So, you know, someone's just become a statistic.
01:20:18.100
And so, if we, you know, go back, you can see like, yeah, you've got homeless, you've
01:20:29.160
You've got the general degradation of the area.
01:20:34.640
You've got the complete antisocial behaviour from self-interested groups who don't care
01:20:41.040
And then you get to the violence and to the actual danger.
01:20:43.900
And you have to ask yourself, well, was this what we were promised?
01:20:53.620
All right, we've got a few more super chats and rumble rants coming.
01:21:00.100
I'll read one that is addressed directly to me from Cranky Texan saying, thank you, Harry.
01:21:04.600
Looking at geopolitical events from the perspective of organised capital, I think it's important
01:21:11.640
As you put it, makes everything seem much more rational and evil.
01:21:22.740
People should absolutely have opportunity to make money, start their own businesses, and
01:21:28.360
to, you know, become, you can become billionaires.
01:21:34.340
But I do think there needs to be some kind of guardrails mandating that your actions,
01:21:40.580
if you become a large organisation like that, have to be directed in the best interests of
01:21:46.700
the nation, the nation as defined as a people in a time and place with a cultural and ancestral
01:21:54.980
But moreover, why should they be allowed to deform the society they're benefiting from?
01:22:00.860
Because like, okay, we're going to bring in loads of workers.
01:22:07.960
But it's, I don't want to change the society in which I live, you know, and the fact that
01:22:14.280
they're just obviously so cavalier about all of that just for profits, it's awful.
01:22:18.260
I will just say as well, it's a remarkable testament, actually, to the endurance and genius of our
01:22:26.240
ancestors that England is even still alive after everything that it's basically been made
01:22:33.660
to withstand over these past decades, it shows what a robust society we actually inherited.
01:22:51.320
Our high-trust society has already gone, especially in the cities, but we're very aware of the problems
01:22:55.680
that there are, and there seems no signs of a solution in sight, just conflict.
01:23:01.040
I mean, that is the worry, that if it's not solved, people like, what is it, that Patrick
01:23:11.900
One of the ones who's constantly talking about civil war.
01:23:18.520
I was thinking Patrick Betts-Davis, who's the podcaster, isn't he?
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This idea of civil war, like it'll all just reach a flashpoint and explode, and then all
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of a sudden it'll be one side pitted against the other.
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I do think that things are, you know, pitted sides already.
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The thing is, I agree more with those who assess this as resulting in more of a low-level conflict
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that sparks up every now and again, and then goes back down, because we've seen across
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the third world how people can just kind of put up with low-level conflict for their
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As long as there is a government, even an unstable government, in place, people will
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just kind of get on and try to avoid danger as much as possible without there being a massive
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That's what I worry about, that it goes on forever.
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A teddy bear with anatomically correct innards.
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I would like to share with you all some sections that I've highlighted of Mary Richmond's Wikipedia
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article, where I couldn't help but notice some rather heavy bias, including the fact
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that it says she was apparently around such strong, intelligent women, i.e. her grandmother
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I'm not either, but no one's ever accused Wikipedia of being neutral.
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No, which is why it's better that we have Grokipedia now.
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Did you see that clip of one of the co-founders of Wikipedia being asked on a podcast?
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If he was the co-founder or the founder, and he just, like, storms off at being asked the
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Like, everyone's genuinely outraged about this.
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Because until the appropriate response to this is actively promoted and endorsed by every
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single person in quote-unquote power, I don't care.
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If that's what's necessary for every single leftist to denounce their position, so be it.
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Honestly, there's a part of me that really wants to endorse accelerationism, too.
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Well, leftists aren't going to give up their positions.
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This is, like, the thing that you've got to understand about democracy is it's not actually
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Everybody overnight could come over to our side.
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But if the actual positions being offered by those in power aren't what we're after,
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you won't get it without some kind of infiltration or revolution.
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To be fair, I think there is something interesting that's happened with Siobhan and Mahmoud recently.
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Which is, you've doubtless seen the clips of her being the most radical leftist in the
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world prior to the advent of her getting to government.
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And then she's like, oh no, the system's ruined and immigration is out of control.
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So it's like, you can see how it's, you know, ideologically, she feels a certain way.
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But then actually, oh, I want to make sure this system persists into the future.
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And so, you know, Carla Denya and whatnot, you know, screaming she's a fascist.
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It's like, well, maybe your BS is just nonsense.
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You know, the most, you know, momentary contact with reality is like, yeah, no, all of this
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Well, she's realizing as well, and this is the thing that Mahmoud is realizing, if we
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don't do something, some sort of gesture, then basically we're going down.
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Not just we're going down, the entire immigrant class is going to be pointed at and saying,
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So she's got to show some interest to what the majority wants.
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And meanwhile, the brain-dead zealots in the back benches can't get it into their heads
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that she is actually still fighting on their side.
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She's fighting for the system that has brought this about.
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In case there were any red pills today, here is my kitten's first reaction to this fish
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My wife sent me a video of a compilation of cats trashing everything in their house.
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My wife wants more babies, but instead we end up getting cats.
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They made that decision without having children at all.
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No, we cannot have another baby, so I end up with another kitten, which is not the worst
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But they're all really placid, and they've never wrecked anything, he says, crossing his
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So I'm just watching these cats, like, spurging out and ruining it.
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I mean, I'm glad this doesn't happen, but, you know, I don't know.
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I can't have cats, because sadly I'm deadly allergic to them, so if I'm in the same house
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Uh, but my daughter loves, loves the cats, who are normally so well behaved at my parents,
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but my god, it's like my daughter is trying to get them to destroy things.
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She just legs it the second my daughter even gets, like, any...
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This cat was a stray, and, like, grew up a stray, so she's just very, very skittish.
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And she does not yet trust my daughter, which is fair, because she is a toddler.
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But she does, like, she's very, she's normally very gentle, but every so often, she'll go,
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Well, we've got, uh, we had, uh, two polls today, and it seems that, uh, Carl, you win,
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uh, best tie for a presenter, with a respectable 56% of the vote.
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Oh, my sleazebag look didn't win any points today, did it?
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Although, unfortunately, and I'm less enthusiastic about this result, um, 64% say that I should
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What they don't realise is, I hate democracy, and I don't accept its results, so we won't be
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I think we also do have one more video comment from Zesty King.
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Even in this secret council meeting, you seem...
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There's a great comment by Fane Scotty here that I wanted to read before we end.
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Calling them the Epstein class is such a baller move.
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It's perfect thick language, and we need more speech like that.
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The Epstein class is a good way of delineating them from us.
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Uh, I've got time to just read one or two from mine.
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Uh, Lord Inquisitor X says, uh, if you want to look into, uh, Dearborn Mort, there are tons
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of Muslims and Indians committing healthcare fraud in Minnesota.
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And, uh, they state, the state is turning a blind eye to it, and it's so blatant.
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Again, these problems in every city across the West, wherever they go, they bring the
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Well, again, the whole point of the, um, welfare state was, it was a high-trust society.
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It was too, we were here to, like, help, oh, we'd like to help those people.
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On the assumption that they wouldn't try to exploit the system.
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I mean, it used to be a, it still is in many ways, a point of shame to be, uh, receiving
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But if you don't recognize that as a cultural touchstone, why would you care?
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And then I'll just wrap up with this one from Roman Observer from your segment, which is
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Well, I, I just want to read two, very quickly, honourable mentions.
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One from George Happ saying, happy International Men's Day.
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Happy International Men's Day to all of the chaps watching out there.
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Also, Samson saying, hello, lads, watching from an onsen hot spring bath with sake and
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Well, I'm glad you're having a good time, Samson.
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For Harry, I actually had lunch last week with one of the artists who worked on Silent
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Hill 2 and 3, apparently, and didn't realise, a friend of one of my uni mates somehow.
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And PS for Luca, it's not my birthday, but can you grow the moustache back, please?
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Anyway, that's all we've got time for today, ladies and gentlemen.
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Hope you've enjoyed the show and enjoy the rest of your day.