The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1301

00:00:00.000 hello everyone welcome to the glorious podcast of the lotus eaters today is friday the 21st of

00:00:06.320 november and i'm pleased to be joined today by brother nick and brother harry hello hello to

00:00:12.420 both of you we are going to discuss the chicago train attack nasty business institutionalized

00:00:20.400 systematic racism being real isn't that what woken is supposed to be but i can actually

00:00:27.100 prove it with facts and data and the results may surprise you yeah and then you left to right

00:00:33.000 populist alliance i'm looking forward to that yeah i've quoted you in it so we have another nick

00:00:42.000 on nick hot glazing action n-o-n-n-n-n-n-n-n oh my goodness so let us start with the chicago train

00:00:54.500 attack it happened this monday on november 17 and it was horrifying and it woke up several

00:01:01.600 memories it um lots of it brought several connotations to our minds with a hit of irina

00:01:09.940 zarutska by the carlos brown jr so look at what we have here we have this man who is a career criminal

00:01:17.360 50 years old who is also who was also prosecuted 50 times and released 49

00:01:25.660 so he was never rehabilitated nor yeah yeah it's one of those success stories that we constantly hear

00:01:32.020 about yeah and he's accused of setting a woman on fire on a chicago train right um it isn't just a man

00:01:42.240 uh or just a woman right you kind of understand the pattern there comes a threshold that once crossed

00:01:51.100 we are beginning to talk about we are talking about patterns instead of isolated incidents

00:01:56.160 and we've already crossed that years ago so he's accused of setting a woman on fire on a chicago train

00:02:03.040 this week he's federally charged with committing a terrorist attack he's 50 years old his name is

00:02:10.280 lawrence reed he was identified as the suspect in the attack on a chicago transit authority train in

00:02:17.400 the city's loop district he was arrested the next day and federally charged the day after that which

00:02:25.440 was november 19 that was last wednesday two days ago and he was charged with committing a terrorist

00:02:32.940 act or other violence against a mass transportation system the victim was an unidentified 26 year old

00:02:41.520 woman who remains in critical conditions and she hasn't been named and we don't know yet whether

00:02:49.580 she's alive or not i hope she's alive according to the articles i'm reading she's in severe critical

00:02:56.020 condition but i haven't yet read that she that she's not yet alive i hope she is

00:03:02.100 so that's there may be some light at the end of the tunnel that she she she hasn't lost her life

00:03:08.540 hopefully right but all of the rest it's again the same thing we constantly talk about it we see it all

00:03:16.880 the time it shows a remarkable lack of success by the system by the rehabilitation system but also

00:03:26.060 the system of of adjudication the judiciary system that is full of activist judges who stop thinking

00:03:33.900 about the common good but only think about promoting their personal agenda which happens to be the woke agenda

00:03:40.740 and they think that instead of having civil society as the main engine of social life and social progress they want

00:03:50.060 the state that is going to be the referee for their preferred race relations and their preferred distribution of

00:03:56.460 wealth which constantly implies let us extract resources from this group and give it to our voters

00:04:04.900 right so the attack was unprovoked and horrific as the police says she was literally standing there

00:04:11.980 he started pouring gas on her he tried to light her in fire she fought back she started running then he

00:04:19.740 he lit up a can of gasoline that he had he started chasing her at some point he threw that to her

00:04:27.540 she was wrapped around in flames she started rolling around to to save herself but it didn't happen

00:04:36.280 she exited the train and luckily she she she she was uh she was found and she is being hospitalized

00:04:45.560 what's what's the excuse for this one well there's literally no excuse what is the excuse for this one

00:04:51.420 uh i mean he's been let out what 49 times yeah um so there is going to be an excuse for this one

00:04:57.080 you mentioned irena zarutska and her killer uh which i will mention briefly in the next segment the excuse

00:05:04.340 for him why you can't just execute him is that well he's insane he's literally insane and has no impulse

00:05:10.980 control therefore it would be injustice of some kind not to kill him oh yeah i've got mention of this

00:05:16.840 yeah uh so so like there's there's an excuse these extenuating circumstances which actually are

00:05:23.400 exacerbating the fact that he's so insane that he doesn't know not to murder people is why we can't

00:05:29.860 remove him permanently from society also i think it's just a bit of a hail mary bs argument because

00:05:35.940 well in that case if he was just insane and wanted to attack anybody and everybody why did he only

00:05:42.060 limit it to the tiny defenseless white girl who sat directly in front of him and then go on about i got

00:05:47.960 that white girl why didn't he then continue to attack all of the much larger black people around him

00:05:54.660 the argument makes no sense it's an obvious excuse so what's the excuse for this guy why he's going

00:06:00.840 to be taken into court again and presumably let off again well a day after the event which happened on

00:06:09.040 the 17th of november there was an article published by sally sattle on the free press and its title is

00:06:19.060 irina zarutska's killer does not deserve to die the execution of the schizophrenic man again mental

00:06:24.660 illness who stabbed a ukrainian refugee on a train would be an act of cruelty not justice

00:06:30.800 cruelty to who by what definition of justice what about the good in the world yes i've never understood

00:06:38.180 the mental health thing like he still did it like temporary insanity is even stranger because it's saying

00:06:43.160 well that it wasn't you it's quite strange that maybe there's an argument for that but we sort of

00:06:47.840 believe it what is it it's sort of it's a spiritual metaphysical belief it's sort of saying that wasn't

00:06:54.200 you for a moment so what is actually you but we just treat that like it's completely normal you can

00:06:58.540 be temporarily insane strangle your wife and go oh it's temporarily insane it's like what does it

00:07:02.320 actually mean you still did it it's very strange particularly with these people it's like you he's

00:07:06.440 mentally ill and dangerous so asylum or death penalty it's based on like the sadly now quite outdated

00:07:15.320 ideas of intentionality uh with being a factor in sentencing which is if you intended to do something

00:07:24.480 negative that makes it worse than if it was just an accident which is still applicable in many

00:07:29.660 situations not really in this situation because intentionality doesn't come into it they're saying

00:07:35.800 well he didn't intend to because he's crazy therefore he didn't realize what he's doing so that's a

00:07:41.800 mitigating factor no that makes it worse i have a slightly different view i think mens rea is

00:07:49.300 important the criminal intent but here we are constantly talking with lots of stuff here we're

00:07:55.420 talking about people who deliberately did so and did so remorselessly and come up the next day as this

00:08:01.720 guy lawrence reid came up to the says burn you know b-i-t-c-h that's the profanity he used he was

00:08:12.060 completely remorseless and started singing to the judge right so i think that here we are talking

00:08:22.520 about people who are deliberately doing it and back to your point nick about what mental illness and why

00:08:28.140 are they doing it i think it's a it's a different thing when it comes to mental illness i know people

00:08:33.480 who have mental illness they haven't tried to kill me and they haven't tried to set me on fire

00:08:38.320 right let's get it out in the open maybe that's too radical or revolutionary a view in psychology for

00:08:45.620 some people on the bbc and some and the cnn but it's true they know that you're a black belt they

00:08:51.020 wouldn't dare try it they're not even they're mentally ill but they're not that crazy don't you dare

00:08:55.400 right i think it has to do with the narratival attempt to control people's beliefs and try to

00:09:05.760 gaslight people into thinking that when it comes to patterns from their side from their preferred groups

00:09:15.520 they're going to isolate incidents isolate the blame and try to demonize people for focusing on

00:09:24.140 that pattern meanwhile the the the nearest criticism of the agenda of the left is portrayed as an

00:09:32.600 epidemic of far-right extremism so they are doing this double double standards they're saying well the

00:09:38.620 the minor incident on the other side is going to be treated as an indication of a larger epidemic

00:09:47.120 a pattern a really bad pattern but when it comes to crimes committed by members of groups that the

00:09:53.980 left considers oppressed they're always isolated incidents mental health knives with mental illness

00:09:59.640 cars with mental illness always not a pattern according to the to then you get into the um higher

00:10:07.200 propensity for schizophrenia among certain groups and that's when you really get like with the other

00:10:11.980 train incident we had in this country and people said oh see it's not immigration and then some people

00:10:17.120 it is in the sense that the second generation caribbeans have a massive propensity for

00:10:21.900 schizophrenia first generation as well but even more second generation so then you have to get into

00:10:25.720 those stats if you want a really uncomfortable conversation have we uh considered that he may be a

00:10:30.160 marijuana addict oh that's semantics have we uh have we taken that into account i think if you were

00:10:36.520 to examine this man's background you'd find a a whole raft a whole raft of uh drug abuse incidents

00:10:43.400 i can't i can't just tell us you like weed i can't get it's a clear attack on mr hitches i can't

00:10:48.960 condone it because he's he's my hero but i perhaps i thought he's your dad a bit too into the um

00:10:54.660 the marijuana explanation at times well especially because he always points to it because oh well it

00:10:59.160 can cause schizophrenia yeah well what if the people smoking it are already more prone to

00:11:04.460 schizophrenia but i'm still i'm even more right so we see now that we are faced with a culture of

00:11:12.780 impunity when it comes to groups that are affiliated with the left and the left considers

00:11:18.400 them to be oppressed they can never fail to integrate and they can never be responsible for

00:11:24.640 their failure to integrate into wider society to the extent that they don't it's always the problem

00:11:31.740 of their ideological opponents it's always the problem of the western man the straight white male

00:11:39.660 who is the who occupies the top of the pyramid of oppression in the oppressor oppressed pyramid scheme

00:11:47.180 of intentionality the oppression calculus right so here for this person we have approached the point

00:11:54.520 where after 50 crimes 10 9 or 10 of which are felonies and most of them are violent we're discussing

00:12:05.080 about the maximum penalty of life in prison federal court records do not show whether reed has an

00:12:11.360 attorney representing him in the federal case chicago outlets reported that reed was disruptive

00:12:16.460 during his first appearance in the federal court including yelling over the judge that he wanted to

00:12:22.560 represent himself and claiming that he was a chinese citizen no he was not making a play for insanity

00:12:28.680 plea yeah or he is actually crazy in either case that is not that is not mitigating yeah that is

00:12:37.020 exacerbating that makes it worse if he is incapable if he is too low iq that's always an excuse they like

00:12:44.140 to trot out he's too incompetent to stand trial because he's too low iq or something then that's worse you

00:12:49.800 don't throw them back out onto the streets where they can cause more people harm you institutionalize

00:12:54.940 them for life or you execute them it's funny how every time we constantly hear about social

00:13:01.320 commentaries and explain social explanation and the assumptions that the woke are using in order to

00:13:07.760 talk about it they're talking about past injustices but somehow past injustices committed by a particular

00:13:14.500 individual of a group that the left considers to be oppressed don't matter 49 times that he committed

00:13:21.620 a crime before they don't matter they didn't matter for the judge all of it is going to be treated as an

00:13:27.080 atomic isolated incident well on that same kind of subject of the narratives it's also funny how

00:13:32.700 iq either doesn't matter has no effect or isn't real until it can be used as an excuse to get black

00:13:41.200 criminals out of prison and we were talking about weird decades ago there were some uh arguments

00:13:47.620 saying that the death penalty is bad because you can never know because of the dna tests that came

00:13:54.480 out and they proved that lots of people who were because the innocent project likes to be a lot of

00:13:58.460 fraud with dna tests what happens when you have someone here in this picture who is i'm not gonna

00:14:04.940 focus more on it uh but what happened when you have evidence that these people are literally trying

00:14:12.020 to set someone on fire it's their own camera and also we have this picture here where he has set this

00:14:20.780 on fire and he is trying to get to the victim meanwhile people stand around him and do nothing

00:14:28.020 right on the one hand i do get it i do get that people are afraid and sometimes some people freeze

00:14:35.440 in such situations and uh but but on the other hand how's that supposed to go for go on it's it it

00:14:46.680 looks like you know there should be some criticisms here she wasn't the only person on the train the

00:14:52.140 others just sat and did nothing and he has lit this can of gasoline here and and it's lit and he is

00:14:59.000 trying to get to her her way and then we have footage of her being wrapped on fire running on the on the

00:15:05.660 on the station's platform let's call it what it is it's i'll i'll dub it the penny effect

00:15:11.600 daniel penny was a hero he saved a lot of people that day yeah the guy that he ended up um uh choking

00:15:18.780 out hadn't done anything yet but i'm sorry he would have done something like this if penny hadn't

00:15:24.320 stepped in uh and what did he what happened to him he had his name dragged through the mud his face

00:15:28.960 plastered all over the media and he had to go to court and almost could have been sent to prison over

00:15:33.540 it right yeah that this is the intended effect of that kind of action and it's not just that it's also

00:15:39.620 all other incidents that are happening at the moment in the context of politics that is becoming to a

00:15:46.560 very large extent democratic socialist in some places and we have people who are pushing for

00:15:52.880 activist judges and activists in all the areas of the state i'm talking about mom danny he came

00:15:59.460 forward he was voted as mayor of new york with his agenda it's all the woke agenda cry cry cry

00:16:06.420 oppressed oppressed oppressed let's take down the oppressors and there were there were lots of

00:16:12.520 um women and in particular who were taking screenshots on the of themselves selfies and saying i voted for

00:16:22.200 mom danny and then you have all the other videos that come from nyc subway uh train station there you

00:16:28.520 have lots of people just being bullying women and there was one that came a few days ago i i didn't know

00:16:35.160 that the conversation was going to go that way and i didn't include it and there was someone who was

00:16:39.560 screaming at a lady and he he impersonated shooting her head and just no you you shouldn't be proud

00:16:51.160 for voting people who are deliberately trying to obfuscate what is going on and are usually giving the and

00:16:59.200 are giving the bleeding heart nonsense instead of being for actual law and order and against impunity

00:17:06.120 and when people make excuses for impunity they're grifters at best you can do the math for the worst

00:17:12.720 case here we have lawrence reed look at the mag shot just i think if people walk and look at someone

00:17:20.480 looking like that they're allowed to say this guy looks suspicious i want to keep my distance and

00:17:26.620 it would have been good for her if she had kept her distance but she was she was sat there

00:17:33.860 and he just poured gasoline on her right here we have him he started screaming burn you know burn

00:17:45.100 alive burn alive burn alive obscenities cta surveillance footage shows reed walking up behind

00:17:53.780 the woman with no interaction at all removing the cap from a bottle and pouring gasoline over her head and

00:17:59.740 as she tried to fight him off he lit the liquid and set her on fire then calmly walked away while she

00:18:05.740 burned five years ago reed said thompson sent her on fire because he claimed he hadn't deceived his

00:18:12.520 social security check he pleaded guilty to arson and was given two years of mental health probation by

00:18:19.020 judge arthur hill mental health probation yeah just when trying to set someone on fire when you look at

00:18:25.420 footage like this you don't go and say well there may be cases of spontaneous combustion right

00:18:33.340 he did it right let's move forward and talk about the other attacks here he had another case

00:18:43.700 in august he attacked someone at a mental ward and he attacked that person very violently

00:18:52.760 but there was a judge who was very partial to his case he she helped him a lot let's look at

00:19:02.500 let's look at this judge molina gonzalez she was very she she gave him a very light sentence let's say

00:19:12.620 let's see what happened here i wonder why yeah i had her name hispanic heritage yeah celebrate hispanic

00:19:22.600 heritage month we're recognizing diverse voices in the judiciary the following features cook county

00:19:28.400 circuit judge teresa molina gonzalez and her thoughts on her career diversity on the bench and more and

00:19:35.620 they're they're asking her what inspired you to pursue law and eventually become a judge who has been

00:19:41.080 the biggest influence in your life and or career did you see the answer she says i liked criminal

00:19:46.580 justice because i found it way less confusing than most subjects oh no i'm stupid i couldn't do this

00:19:54.980 i'm stupid which is why they made me a judge amazing oh my i was always interested in things

00:20:00.920 being fair and felt that people should be held up accountable for their actions clearly i knew many

00:20:06.700 people that were the victims of crimes and wanted to be a voice for those who needed to be heard

00:20:11.340 i went to law school with the intention of becoming a prosecutor and ultimately moved to chicago to

00:20:18.360 start my career after nearly 18 years of working as a prosecutor i wanted to have the opportunity

00:20:23.400 to serve in a larger capacity i wanted to be able to help more people having had the opportunity to

00:20:30.320 appear before many judges throughout my career i knew that being a judge would allow me to have a

00:20:35.620 greater impact on my community well you see that i'm extremely grateful i don't know if the

00:20:40.640 community is extremely grateful to you and humbled to be given the opportunity to serve as a judge

00:20:45.920 so they're celebrating hispanic heritage month with that judge that judge claims to celebrate hispanic

00:20:54.180 heritage month as well again woke stuff representation of this or that group where's the common good here

00:21:00.360 where does the common good enter the picture instead of having the state being the overseer and the

00:21:06.280 referee of preferred racial relations and outcomes of racial relations nowhere meanwhile the common good

00:21:14.100 is not promoted society is disintegrating into a jungle and infrastructure is collapsing and people

00:21:22.640 are not safe anymore to take the subway and all the woke stuff spare us with a bs or all the past

00:21:31.920 discrimination and past um i should say historical injustices that you are constantly talking about

00:21:40.180 where did you see them in his case he committed so many felonies he burned so many things he tried

00:21:47.420 to burn someone alive right now where where how what does he have to do in order for someone like

00:21:55.460 this judge and any other activist judge to understand that well sometimes some people can't just can be

00:22:02.700 integrated into society she's talking about having these strong latina women in my life as role models

00:22:09.380 like this this sounds like yeah what is this it sounds like you're a tweet or something this isn't

00:22:15.660 going to be like a judge like with serious profiles strong latina women gone i was just going to ask

00:22:20.580 where like uh was dad interesting why isn't the dad your hero good question well and let me just say

00:22:30.260 this because ultimately what happens is that wokeness is rest rests on utopianism and utopian idealism

00:22:37.900 they're trying to to create the image that life has no tragic element in it and this is absolutely

00:22:43.380 mistaken and what happens is that they are isolating things and they're saying right we're looking only at

00:22:49.400 the relationship between the state and the criminal and if the criminal is a member of the groups we

00:22:56.100 are considering oppressed we're we're going to basically allow them to get away with it and if not

00:23:02.160 the sentence isn't going to be particularly strong but no life does have a tragic element we can't have

00:23:08.500 everyone happy and in this case you're either going to have career criminals happy or you're going to

00:23:14.320 have the greater public happy and people who care about public safety because when you're talking about

00:23:19.360 um this uh lady here sally saddle who writes the execution of the schizophrenic man who stabbed

00:23:26.940 a ukrainian refugee murdered is the right word on a train would be an act of cruelty not justice what

00:23:33.160 what about what about his act of cruelty what about the message that people are getting from this

00:23:41.100 generalized impunity yeah it's also a total lack of confidence in our own ability to meet out justice

00:23:49.780 right and to decide what is just and to act on it so we don't think the west in general thinks it has

00:23:54.060 no right to make these moral judgments so it has no right to execute someone that's part of it as well

00:24:00.140 as just hating white people plus all the stuff you said well we absolutely do have the moral authority

00:24:05.140 to do so and i would argue to all of those people who say that we used to oppress them when we got to

00:24:10.640 their countries and before we did anything this kind of behavior is why they think we oppress them

00:24:16.800 because we got there and we're like no no you don't do that can you stop saying people on fire please

00:24:21.260 yeah whoa whoa can you stop saying let me be free bro yeah this is just what we do here man that's just

00:24:27.540 what we do cultural relativism and there were people within those communities who also said yeah i also

00:24:32.880 don't want to be set on fire and they were called uncle toms and collaborators and such whereas they

00:24:40.120 were just normal sensible people who don't like living in chaos well whatever whatever the history

00:24:46.460 here there comes a point where in order to have society say right whatever conflict has been in the

00:24:53.740 past must be reconciled and you need to be a member of society and if you're not a member of society

00:24:59.020 and you're bringing war to society society has to wage war against you instead of making constant

00:25:05.180 excuses for you right all right we've got quite a few super chats and a rumble rant flavius magnus

00:25:12.060 i want justice to be done i'm tired of all these stories thank you very much for your ten dollars

00:25:17.420 hyper omnima omniman england will be saved when birmingham's englishman can

00:25:23.480 can i see it can can i don't know what it's well i don't know but honest mine's not on so i can't

00:25:32.440 side of safety i can't see something about birmingham you're gonna read them all out right

00:25:36.980 necker says it's a clear pattern that certain cultist opportunists in many countries are incentivizing

00:25:43.440 and allowing the most insane people and worst criminals in our societies to harass and terrorize

00:25:49.120 common citizens they absolutely do they absolutely do uh when you when there's impunity people fear

00:25:56.880 for their safety i hate to say it's called a narco tyranny i say it every time it's true though

00:26:01.600 sam francis 1993 gone uh necker mcglock being kind to the cruel is cruel to the kind absolutely adam smith

00:26:08.860 cruelty to the guilt no mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent um this goes in my uh

00:26:17.400 or chick door this goes into my biggest pet peeve mentally incompetent to stand trial

00:26:25.100 but but can be with the rest of society yep quite blackpilled for five uh i'll read this one because

00:26:33.360 it's about me and there's another one directed to me would love to hear harry's opinion on game of

00:26:37.280 the year nominations expedition 33 has already made me stop making the typical american french jokes

00:26:43.020 i've barely heard of the game the clips keep showing up on my twitter feed i don't know what

00:26:48.080 it is frankly i've not played any games that were released this year the only one that interests

00:26:52.740 me is silksong and i've not got around to do it you will do a segment with samson at some point about

00:26:58.240 it you said the other day you stopped playing them due to over stimulation and kind of how lame

00:27:03.760 they've become and kind of spazzing out oh you saw that tweet that i put out yeah where they're just

00:27:09.320 they are just so many like the new call of duty looks just like such a utter slop is vile disgusting

00:27:16.800 there you go sorry

00:27:18.060 yeah nick's been expecting an important phone call to do with his suit which explains why he's not

00:27:28.320 wearing one right now i have deemed this casual friday that's why i'm not wearing a full suit i've

00:27:33.940 just got the blazer on today so nick will return uh in avengers endgame and there was one other

00:27:41.220 one related to me segment request harry harry's gentlemanly grooming tips now that might have to

00:27:47.020 be some uh some premium content right there i might have to give you a day in the life of harry

00:27:51.420 i can all bring you into the shower with me we do have a debate about hair length

00:27:58.200 and you were basically saying that you you think that the hair should be as long as possible

00:28:04.580 not necessarily as long as possible you're right there nick yeah sorry about that it was quite a

00:28:10.320 good time in there nick apologizes for his before his call he had to take it i'm so sorry so i lost

00:28:16.440 my suit on the train they've got it the great people the great people of swindom how did you lose

00:28:22.000 your suit so people may not realize our country is falling apart and is becoming kind of south africa you

00:28:27.260 probably know if you watch this podcast so nothing ever works the trains there's something wrong with

00:28:30.900 them every week this time one of them was cancelled that meant that everyone was on the next one so

00:28:35.340 it's completely full so i get on the train or i was going to get i get on the train no that one was

00:28:40.140 too full to even get on so i go right i'll get the next one that are you undressing yourself in the

00:28:44.800 train that one no but i get on i put my suit back to protest the infrastructural collapse i get on

00:28:51.080 the second train i put my suit bag on the thing you know above you the rack and the guy says

00:28:56.300 those are our seats get out and by that time i'd already had an argument with with the woman

00:29:00.800 on the train staff nick already chudded out i'd already been having my mic if you've seen falling

00:29:06.120 down with michael doghouse i was already quite irate so i get off the train i left it on there

00:29:09.660 and got the next train then i realized but they've recovered it which is there are good people out

00:29:13.720 there you see there you go there you go so sorry about that there was only it was an emergency i would

00:29:18.000 never normally take a call during one of your segments but it had it you would normally just scroll

00:29:22.960 twitter it was kind of perfect because it ended yeah yeah there you go but on that super chat maybe

00:29:28.120 i'll give you my grooming tips one of these days uh the engaged few on rumble says in a country with

00:29:32.700 half a billion firearms and private hands this sort of thing will lead to a very lethal strain

00:29:35.980 of vigilantism see i keep hearing that and then not seeing it but maybe i don't encourage violence

00:29:42.860 though don't get yourself arrested folks and don't turn yourself into a murderer

00:29:47.540 simple as all right now onto my segment i'm going to reveal to you all that i have discovered

00:29:55.640 that actually the woke were right and institutional racism is real i know i know i know we've been

00:30:02.640 hearing about it for years and we've always been saying no that's absolute nonsense but it's true

00:30:08.120 it is the only thing that they got wrong was the direction of that racism and for this i'm going to be

00:30:16.060 referring to a few recent studies that have been done this one was very interesting one first of all

00:30:21.860 uh by a man called gregory roblowski i apologize i have definitely pronounced your name wrong he's good

00:30:29.100 this is one that he actually uh he actually replied on the one of my twitter posts and tagged and like

00:30:34.720 linked this and said take a look through this and i did and i thought it was really interesting and

00:30:38.820 worth looking at here and uh so i'm doing it and it's called do the adl and splc disproportionately

00:30:44.840 police white but not black movements adl being anti-defamation league splc southern poverty law

00:30:51.660 center two big anti-hate groups within the u.s and a lot of this segment will be related to the

00:30:58.220 institutions in america so just to front load that right there i have drawn out most of the relevant

00:31:04.620 text explaining this study and going over what's going on in here the methods etc so the present study

00:31:11.960 used a site called news on the web the news on the web corpus to elucidate any tendency for anglophone

00:31:19.540 news media to disproportionately focus on policing white but not black nationalist groups or ideologies

00:31:25.360 using number of references to or quotes from the two most influential social justice slash civil rights

00:31:31.880 watchdog groups in the u.s the adl and the splc as a metric the results seem to support the hypothesis

00:31:38.540 that a great many more resources at least in terms of numbers of news pieces and that's important

00:31:43.860 because that's going to be shaping the views of a lot of people are devoted to monitoring potential

00:31:49.720 hate groups when they are white and you may say well what's the point of it being the adl and the

00:31:54.680 splc why are they important well he explains and i've explained a few times on this podcast before but

00:32:00.200 it's good to get a refresher for anybody watching this segment on youtube for the first time

00:32:04.060 so the adl's opinions carry weight their ceo that's jonathan greenblatt recently confirmed

00:32:09.440 that his organization quote helped to write the national strategy to counter anti-semitism released

00:32:15.800 by the biden administration and is now working as well with the trump administration end quote so

00:32:21.640 that's just direct institutional influence across administrations across parties the adl is a

00:32:29.440 uniparty apparatus that's what they are like the adl the splc is extremely well funded with an endowment

00:32:37.780 of more than 730 million dollars in 2024 i didn't even realize they were that well funded funding its

00:32:45.380 involvement in almost 150 legal cases is influences such that the u.s house sorry the u.s congressional

00:32:52.660 house committee on oversight and accountability highlighted the fact that the splc representatives

00:32:57.540 visited the white house at least 11 times in a three-year span suggesting the splc's designations

00:33:04.560 carry weight with the executive branch of the u.s government and that the center exerts influence

00:33:10.040 at the highest level of government so that's why it's important how these organizations view national

00:33:17.020 terror groups and how their information is used to report on such because that will have an influence

00:33:22.500 in the highest levels of power a quick perusal of the splc's hate map as of 2025 shows that the

00:33:30.820 organization does not even track black nationalist groups anymore or any other non-white nationalist

00:33:37.200 groups for that matter but applies intense scrutiny to people it quotes as being white nationalists and one

00:33:44.720 of the important things that he notes throughout this paper is that white nationalism or white supremacism

00:33:49.900 anything like that is often applied to any statements by public figures that just demonstrate that they

00:33:57.200 do not have shame for being white they are not ashamed of their heritage the non-woke yeah the non-woke

00:34:04.220 they don't hate themselves so if you make as he puts here non-self-loathing white identity if you

00:34:11.000 have any statement that suggests that you don't hate yourself then typically the terms white nationalist

00:34:17.900 white supremacist will be applied to you in news articles about you and that's one of the ways they

00:34:23.840 like to poison the well because those terms are associated with hateful violent ideologies

00:34:29.340 accordingly he says two virtual corpora and this is talking about the methodology were created using

00:34:37.400 the noww's find text subcorpus generation option using the search terms anti-defamation league and

00:34:44.320 southern poverty law center thus any articles containing either of these phrases would populate

00:34:49.420 the corresponding virtual corpus these virtual corpora will hence carrying on it was deemed necessary

00:34:56.380 to create these uh these using s adl and splc as presumably the acronyms blah blah blah they would

00:35:03.300 then search respectively to determine the number of occurrences and articles which contained the lemmas

00:35:09.600 white nationalists white nationalists or black nationalists and it was done in such a way that

00:35:13.800 it separates nationalists so it will also come up with adjoining and similar words like nationalist

00:35:18.980 nationalism supremacy supremacism etc searches of both corpora demonstrated a very large disparity

00:35:26.200 in occurrences and article numbers for each of the search terms along racial lines first in adl corpus

00:35:33.240 there were 1368 occurrences and 809 unique articles of white nationalists but only 27 of black nationalists

00:35:42.700 in splc there were 2709 occurrences of white but only 89 of black so you can see here in these pie charts

00:35:52.580 the references to both of these as found in chart in um in articles that were referencing the adl and the

00:35:59.420 splc regarding white versus black nationalism you can see that is an absurd absurd overrepresentation

00:36:09.660 there but then you say to yourself well there are more white people than black people in america

00:36:15.580 so surely maybe that explains the overrepresentation perhaps there are just more

00:36:21.220 white versus black nationalist groups just bad it's also the fact that mentions of black nationalism

00:36:26.920 would typically be classified as the voices of the oppressed well that's something that he mentions

00:36:33.420 further on in the article i'll carry on in the splc's this year in hate and extremism 2023 annual report

00:36:40.940 there were listed 165 active white nationalist groups in the united states in contrast their most

00:36:47.220 recent data on record for black nationalists that's 2018 was 264 chapters

00:36:54.520 i imagine there's about 165 white nationalists period not groups people you know in america

00:37:00.840 like the actual proper ones with the torches yeah full-on um of of those types yeah i imagine

00:37:07.800 they're a massive like tiny tiny tiny minority but confusingly after 2018 the splc then began to

00:37:15.520 refer to these groups exclusively as black separatist the following year when the number decreased

00:37:21.260 slightly to 255 to further complicate matters shortly after the splc's intelligence project

00:37:27.720 announced it would be collapsing the black separatist listings and be reclassifying them

00:37:33.640 under hate ideologies that better describes the nature of the harm that their rhetoric

00:37:38.480 inflicts in other words a visitor to the splc's current hate map site can no longer see how many

00:37:45.560 black hate groups exist those that used to be classified racially as black nationalist or

00:37:51.060 separatist are now diffusely distributed one may even say diluted among ideologies such as anti-semitism

00:37:58.540 and the author here suggests that is perhaps as a way of making that number of 255 look smaller in

00:38:04.880 comparison to the number of white nationalist groups so if we take those numbers those more recent the most

00:38:10.820 recent that we've got of 264 and 255 how can you rationally excuse the massive over-representation

00:38:20.120 in reporting of this when it seems that despite the population disparities of whites being a much larger

00:38:27.020 percentage of the population in america than blacks these groups have so much more media attention pushed

00:38:33.720 on them than black groups how do you explain that other than a potentially institutionalized

00:38:42.740 mainstream bias against white people and non-hating white group people in particular you can be openly

00:38:49.380 a black nationalist i mean just in this country for example remember dawn butler put out that poem

00:38:53.720 she's like i'm the i'm one of the chosen ones because i'm of the first ones it was it was a full-on

00:38:58.900 black supremacist poem that she put out she's an mp so you can just openly be there yeah and

00:39:05.220 everybody notices it but it's nice to have you know if you're ever in a debate with destiny for

00:39:09.820 whatever reason um to have a study to point to i don't know do you have a study for that yes actually

00:39:17.160 yes we do but then he'll quickly dismiss it by checking wikipedia he'll go oh this this person says

00:39:22.660 wikipedia says that this is a hate group making this study so i can just dismiss it immediately and then

00:39:27.720 he goes on to um harass women online or something um but it carries on and we talk about the way that

00:39:35.220 these two different groups can be portrayed outside of just the flat figures that we've got here and

00:39:41.840 the biases within these organizations of the adl and the splc and he goes on to say first the adl and

00:39:47.760 its outspoken ceo jonathan greenblatt have spoken profusely about the potential threat of white

00:39:53.840 nationalism and hyperbolic bordering on ridiculous terms in a 2020 hate sorry in a 2020 speech almost

00:40:00.940 little freudian split uh slip there uh before the adl's annual never is now could they be more

00:40:08.600 never is now could they be more stereotypical man uh their never is now summit on anti-semitism and

00:40:14.340 hate greenblatt detailed the adl's policies to fight not only extremism in general but white

00:40:20.000 nationalism specifically calling on the u.s government to bring the same energy and intensity

00:40:24.800 to the fight against white nationalist terror as it has done in the past in the fight against

00:40:28.680 radical islamist terror you are now as much of a threat if you're a white guy who doesn't hate

00:40:34.400 himself in the u.s according to jonathan greenblatt you're just as much as a threat as the 9-11 bombings

00:40:39.940 and i mean serious according to some studies or some biased data reporting they're saying well

00:40:48.100 islamic terrorists don't represent the majority of threats after the period of 9-11

00:40:55.760 and the question is why do you isolate that incident they they like to mess with figures in

00:41:03.080 even if even if that were true because that's debatable but even if it is true there's a

00:41:11.340 selective isolation of the 9-11 11 terror attack also to give a completely mistaken view of what's

00:41:20.920 going on and just blow it out of proportion i also simply wouldn't trust those figures being given to

00:41:26.600 me without reading into them a lot and looking at them the methodology going there uh yes i apply

00:41:32.760 extreme skepticism as well but it's when i get a nice gut feeling telling me that i'm being lied

00:41:37.880 to not only that carrying on with some of the statements that have been made by greenblatt and

00:41:42.680 the adl and spLC in general greenblatt has taken on social media saying hashtag white supremacy

00:41:47.640 is terrorism and clear and present danger to the homeland whose homeland anyway um in one of his

00:41:56.980 countless appearances on american national television greenblatt upped the ante saying that white

00:42:00.960 supremacy is a global terror threat plain and simple amazing given that we are a seven percent

00:42:06.260 minority across the global population of the world later calling it a transnational terrorist threat

00:42:12.980 that could engulf us all is he just looking at the existence of europe and saying well this is a

00:42:18.840 problem this is a problem it is weird because it jewish people are safer if there's a stronger

00:42:25.600 white population in a country have jewish people become more or less safe since immigration has

00:42:31.320 gone up in the united kingdom for example as i don't understand all this greenblatt also is it's

00:42:36.300 just off his no i mean he when he is insane he's like a mafia boss when musk took over twitter he said

00:42:42.600 something i'm paraphrasing slightly but it was something like do we need to like take this guy out

00:42:46.640 like he looked at musk like he said something i can't find the extraordinary tweet about like taking

00:42:51.260 him down he's like you can't he's like the richest man in the world just bought he and the adl in

00:42:55.740 general do use mafia tactics because he did then try and organize a massive advertiser boycott against

00:43:01.680 twitter purely because of musk's taking it over so yeah he literally came in like a protection racket

00:43:08.940 and said we don't work with this guy and if you do decide to work with this guy we're going to smear

00:43:14.160 you in the press i literally have the ear of the president whichever president doesn't matter which

00:43:19.820 president they all love me okay so it's like actual actual mob boss yeah it's like be a shame

00:43:25.860 if something happened to that website yeah nice app you've got there and then and then it contrasts

00:43:30.780 with the way that he talks about black nationalists obviously white supremacy is the greatest threat in

00:43:34.780 the world but black nationalists he says uh you know we need to make careful distinctions between

00:43:39.820 the the good and the bad within the movement the black hebrew israelites you'd think he would hate the

00:43:47.140 black hebrew israelites right but apparently apparently he said about them he described them

00:43:53.160 as simply the guys in times square who observe judaism in a way that's not so traditional

00:43:59.020 really okay perhaps tellingly green black later talked about the deep history of shared values

00:44:08.180 between the communities even having common enemies like okay in the case of the spLC their biases are

00:44:15.860 even more transparent regarding the 2020 decision to no longer include the black separatist

00:44:20.000 character degree on their hate map um they said uh we hope by dropping this listing we can lead to

00:44:27.240 by example and be able to contribute to a more accurate understanding of violent extremism

00:44:32.360 one that foregrounds white supremacist extremism as the most dangerous threat to national security

00:44:38.740 so it's just they're just outright saying we have an institutional bias against white people

00:44:45.540 and white people who don't hate themselves in particular it's not like don lemon like no one

00:44:50.500 seriously thinks this stuff you're having to just pretend this is the serious threat it's incredible

00:44:54.920 and and this kind of this kind of like institutional bias because this is looking at the way that it

00:44:58.640 manifests in articles but we can see how this kind of institutional bias crops up elsewhere

00:45:03.640 like we mentioned in your segment the uh the calls by some within the free press and the mainstream

00:45:10.860 to uh not punish insane black guys who murder innocent white women who are just minding their own

00:45:18.540 business apparently that's injustice if you don't execute him if you get if you don't give him

00:45:25.760 rehabilitation for being insane and murdering people for no reason well that's just just if if it was

00:45:34.340 if it was reversed if it was reversed people would be marching on the streets you'd get the blm signs

00:45:40.360 all over again it would be a case of 2020 if the media chose to push it but the media chooses not to

00:45:46.940 push it in this case well why it's obvious it's because the victim was white so they don't they just

00:45:52.000 they just don't care but we know the truth we know the secrets we've seen the fbi statistics we have

00:46:01.180 1350 memes that go around all of the time we know what's going on but can you even trust the police

00:46:10.000 and fbi statistics that was the question behind a very very interesting new study that has been done

00:46:19.360 by a number of very interested social scientists on twitter who have decided to check the accuracy

00:46:27.540 of these kinds of memes that go around because you might have even seen these pop up on your timeline

00:46:32.360 from time to time they go viral right which is where people who you can tell from the picture

00:46:39.020 are clearly not white are being arrested and charged with crimes and classified as white

00:46:46.080 in the statistics of saying julio diego montoya trejo is not white it's a difficult call to make it's a

00:46:54.260 tough one but i have a sneaking suspicion that he's maybe a little bit more aztec this guy's wilber

00:47:01.260 alexander hernandez gomez just got that wilber in there just to claim he might be just to throw you off

00:47:06.340 i like i like the second one garcia patrizio daniel garcia gender unknown race unknown they put garcia

00:47:14.520 in there it's daniel just to confuse you he's like i'm daniel what i'm the white is a mystery

00:47:19.560 actually it's it's like if they've they've put garcia in there twice to really hammer home

00:47:24.220 just how mexican this guy is they still go greetings greetings fellow white people why have you got

00:47:30.320 garcia twice in your name but the problem with these is they're memes they go around every so often and

00:47:35.700 people go have you seen this but there's nothing more substantial behind them you might just be

00:47:40.660 picking out a few cherry picking a few that aren't representative of the vast majority of people they

00:47:47.220 might even be statistical aberrations maybe it's a case of there's about a one percent chance with

00:47:53.520 each racial group that they're going to be misclassified right so these guys decided to test it

00:47:59.780 they scraped 5.5 million criminal records and from that they got 1.5 usable bits of data from these

00:48:09.980 criminal records and this is 1.5 million mugshots from 39 states and what they found was that 29 percent

00:48:21.100 let me say that again 29 percent of hispanics were officially classified as white and even at and

00:48:31.080 the the model confidence for this was 92.7 percent in the models that they were using if you want to go

00:48:37.660 through their statistical methods there is a full article on substack that goes through the whole thing

00:48:44.760 that you can find in the link below this podcast on the lotus eaters website but even when they are just

00:48:51.060 tested it and took out some of those results for a 95 to 100 percent model confidence 22.4 percent

00:48:59.360 of predicted hispanics were still being assigned white by the justice system now well this is just

00:49:05.820 going through statistical data this is just putting it into models so how do you double check it well

00:49:10.580 it's easy you've got all of these records you go through a few that you can eyeball and determine

00:49:15.500 is it right so the model came up with predicted black assigned white low confidence right so it was

00:49:23.400 unsure but all of these people were classified as white right do many of these people look like like

00:49:35.000 could these people have come from the shores of new england are these descendants of the protestant

00:49:41.960 bottom left is you're really struggling yeah really struggling these people i could give you like

00:49:46.640 top three in on the top i could give you that one you maybe as a kind of error

00:49:51.700 bottom left is nuts yeah and this guy's not even the right way up

00:49:56.600 they just hung this guy by his feet for the picture until he became white

00:50:03.120 yeah all the blood can rush to his face and the melanin can rise everybody knows that melanin is

00:50:09.040 like heat it rises right i'm really struggling with aaron bagsby as a white i suppose they might

00:50:14.040 have got confused by the hobbit-esque surname yeah bagsby baggins oh okay maybe he's one of the

00:50:20.860 sackville bagginses that's why they all wanted to avoid him um and they had some more pictures here

00:50:25.860 of the hispanics now with this with some of these this woman you can see how there's confusion

00:50:31.600 maybe even with top left but basically as you start to descend it becomes more and more like

00:50:37.920 mexican as as you go down but all of these were classified as white mr marco antonio garcia

00:50:47.040 there it is again he yeah god as well he what what about lopez bijarro jose lopez was apparently a white

00:50:57.280 man okay juan carlos maybe he had the trump man these were the florida tan maybe maybe maybe you

00:51:06.580 also changed his name to fit in more with the florida population the test should be can a white

00:51:11.180 bloke pronounce them if i'm not sure how to pronounce them they can't they can't be white

00:51:15.440 it's not it's not perfectly scientific sorry carry on but but i either way so this is this is clearly

00:51:21.620 showing that they are very obviously trying to pump the numbers right they are very clearly

00:51:28.500 rookie number pump those numbers they've got to pump the numbers up because oh god the like they found

00:51:34.020 the fbi data online we're gonna need to pump those white numbers up we really need to although i think

00:51:41.460 with the fbi it's that they uh don't classify hispanics as non-white so they just get automatically

00:51:47.240 lumped into the white statistics despite the fact that like many of them would dispute them being

00:51:53.720 white you can imagine the scene in a movie like garcia garcia he's white and then there's sort of

00:51:57.900 support that but but he's white he's white listen he may look he may look mexican he may sound mexican

00:52:05.320 he may not be able to speak english but ask yourself is your job worth it and they uh they also broke this

00:52:13.000 down based around state as well and found that in florida like you can see how much it it varies

00:52:21.160 from state to state but in florida 60 plus percent of hispanics were being classified purposefully as

00:52:31.160 white rather than hispanic when they have the option to classify them as hispanic and i know somebody in

00:52:39.720 the chat here has said that unfortunately for statistics in the u.s it's white non-hispanic or

00:52:45.240 white hispanic still you can break those down within the doc the department of corrections databases

00:52:52.280 as well as as you know like non-white hispanic and white hispanic or whatever so you can still break it

00:52:59.240 down a little bit further but this is clear and obvious misrepresentations of the statistics and what

00:53:05.880 this is doing is this is not only pumping up the white violent crime rate and just general crime

00:53:11.560 rate as well it's pulling down the hispanic crime rate as cremeux here says the hispanic crime rate

00:53:17.560 is conservatively being underestimated by twenty percent and possibly by as high as thirty percent

00:53:26.760 and they say here as well what this is if they were correcting for misclassification rates in hispanic

00:53:32.360 criminal records they would be thirty one percent higher according to the upper end of it and it

00:53:38.040 would decrease white rates of crime by six percent and it would also decrease black rates of crime by

00:53:43.880 one percent through all of the misclass uh misclassification one of the most important and

00:53:48.520 useful things in here as well is just near the top they have a study of whether bias in general is

00:53:55.080 common and they go through a number of different cases where people have studied various different

00:54:01.000 biases within the system for to see if there's any anti-white bias or just bias in general most of

00:54:07.880 the time they do find that there is anti-white bias within this uh within the justice system

00:54:14.360 so you can see here uh for instance experimental research using deadly force simulators found officers

00:54:20.520 were slower to shoot armed black suspects than armed white suspects and less likely to shoot black

00:54:27.240 suspects despite showing implicit bias and there's a lot of different studies like this not all of

00:54:32.760 them found bias in the various things that they were studying but i do think it is clear that in america at

00:54:39.000 the very least and i think we can broadly classify this across the west in general as well there is a massive

00:54:45.480 bias against white people within the justice system whether that be to try and pump up their numbers to make

00:54:51.720 it seem like whites are committing more crimes and hispanics are committing less crimes than are the

00:54:56.920 actual figures or in police behavior because police have been taught that any police action against

00:55:04.680 non-white people is almost certainly a one-way ticket to a court because they might get chauvin and also this

00:55:14.600 is staring us at the face it's hidden in plain sight it's obvious wokeness is

00:55:22.120 adherence to the intersectional calculus which says all society is structured by a hierarchy of

00:55:27.880 oppressor and oppressed and the oppressors are straight white men invariably in every society yeah so

00:55:35.320 when they're saying the goal of justice is equity and equality and equity are the means to take us to

00:55:41.960 equality they constantly try to say well let us bring up the the oppressed and bring down the oppressors

00:55:51.480 it's hidden in plain sight but well that's but i will give it i will i i completely agree with you because

00:55:58.440 one of the this is one of the things that people are demonized for noticing

00:56:03.000 well again it's obvious to anybody who cares to look and pay attention but it is important to still make note of

00:56:09.560 these things and it is important outside of just sharing memes every now and again for us to have

00:56:15.080 a definite confirmation that this is going on uh because clearly the numbers are being fudged

00:56:21.960 on purpose to try and hide criminals within the statistics or shift them around the online chat says

00:56:30.360 here basically that uh nick is so white he's like a vampire that's the the chat today we get this every

00:56:37.240 time so a couple of things one is that i add skin cancer so i can't go in the sun when i say that

00:56:42.200 it normally ends that conversation quite quite quickly it's uh and then two is i'm next to a greek

00:56:47.320 person so it's like doubly unfair always and on these cameras i look even more white but yeah

00:56:52.760 never be never be ashamed of being pasty we are the elves these are just hispanics in the chat

00:56:58.680 who are annoyed that i get classed as white i'm actually hispanic but i get classed as white i'm

00:57:03.240 nick garcia garcia you're like a nick fuentes type yeah yeah you know they always said it the

00:57:08.680 cameras made me look more pale plus i had skin cancer i never go in the sun i didn't know you

00:57:11.800 had skin cancer are you being serious are you joking because that feels like something that you would

00:57:16.040 throw out there as a light troll no no i'm serious but that's why i haven't never go in the sun for

00:57:20.200 years i have to conspicuously avoid it and uh unfortunately why do you have to sleep like

00:57:24.440 hanging upside down from the rafters that's a separate right that's to drain all the spanishness

00:57:30.120 that's gone control 94 enforcing the law against criminals is antithetical to leftism because

00:57:38.760 like islam the intent of leftism is to destroy western civilization the hapsification says the

00:57:45.240 only person that can save us now is yakub nick you're white enough you've got like a one line

00:57:51.720 directed direct connection to yakub right you can get in touch with him thank we we need his help

00:57:57.320 he made us all in a cave that was nice to punish black people for some reason

00:58:02.680 otrick door says unfortunately for statistics in the u.s it is white non-hispanic or white hispanic

00:58:09.880 constantine who's up on the lotus cedars i don't know what that means from constantine to be honest

00:58:17.960 which constantine i can't read them because not mine's not that not that constant constantine

00:58:21.960 and kissing isn't like seething sending us money in the super chats

00:58:29.160 does that mean that that's over because no one said anything it's okay okay i'll do my

00:58:32.520 bit and no one said it you don't you can just you can i've got the screen in front of me and

00:58:36.040 so you just went silent so i was like you can sit for the next 30 minutes like contemplating life if

00:58:40.600 you'd like now let's do this instead i've got an exciting segment and as always i'm mentioning nick

00:58:45.240 fuentes our old friend because i'm contractually obliged to mention him every other week it's in my

00:58:49.640 contract um and normally i get to go over my uh segment on the train but i was too worried about

00:58:54.280 losing my suit so i think you'll still be good though it's about the new alignment in politics

00:58:58.920 and how things are shifting we've been we've heard for a while that left and right are outmoded terms

00:59:03.800 but no political party seems to have really taken that on board but what i'm realizing now or

00:59:08.120 noticing let's say is that younger people are starting to call this out and the younger generation

00:59:13.000 so i think there'll have to be a realignment in politics and this clip from our old friend uh nick

00:59:17.560 your best mate viral so let's have a look if you had progressive democrats and nationalist republicans

00:59:25.400 working together let's say to compel the release of the epstein files what kind of approval rating do

00:59:31.320 you think that has 90 percent and what if they got together and they opposed foreign aid to israel

00:59:39.640 what approval rating do you think that would have 90 percent what if they got together and worked

00:59:46.040 on the basis of a common interest do you think that re that republicans or independents running

00:59:52.600 under that brand do you think that that would become more popular or less popular over time

00:59:59.000 four becomes eight eight becomes 16 it snowballs and we need to propel someone into the white house that

01:00:07.640 is just a populist and here's here's where we're going to have to give this is going to be the compromise

01:00:12.840 very simple the left has to give up immigration that's simple the left is going to have to give up

01:00:20.440 look we can have equity and we can have um equality in the country we can have civil rights we can have

01:00:28.760 all those things but we have to close the damn borders we have to close it too many illegal immigrants

01:00:35.560 too many legal immigrants that has to be the compromise the left has to give on immigration

01:00:42.600 and the right has to give on the free market if the right can come down on health care and on a social

01:00:51.000 safety net and maybe on some subsidies for education and if the left can come down on the anti-white

01:00:57.240 open border stuff and they can agree that we have a country that party will win 90 of the vote and

01:01:04.040 rule for a century that's the compromise that's the populist compromise why is it that for the left

01:01:12.120 it's like they don't even care about anything else it just has to be open borders and on the right it's

01:01:19.160 like they don't care about anything else as long as it's foreign aid to israel and war in the middle

01:01:23.480 east and war with russia that's that's the kind of program that we need and that's what they're

01:01:32.280 terrified of they're terrified that the left and the right are going to come together on the basis

01:01:38.440 of stop supporting israel on the basis of close the borders on the basis of restricting money in

01:01:46.680 politics and the influence of the oligarchs that's what they're terrified of so this is the blueprint we

01:01:54.440 have to build on this all right you seemed uh seemed reasonable and lots of people are saying

01:01:59.800 that he he put it quite eloquently and it went pretty viral i mean that's what 3.2 million views

01:02:04.280 well just just uh just say uh the the funny thing is what he's describing there when he says the

01:02:09.240 progressive uh the progressive democrats with nationalist republicans i don't know if you would describe

01:02:14.920 thomas massey as a nationalist republican but if you do he is a republican um he's basically describing

01:02:23.400 with the epstein files what actually happened with pushing through thomas massey's bill because it was

01:02:27.880 co-sponsored between massey and also this ro canna progressive democrat from california as well so that is

01:02:35.240 a unique example where they all came together to push through that bill but i think really what he's

01:02:42.520 kind of getting at is this um when tucker came on and criticized mark levin and ben shapiro recently and the

01:02:52.040 last half or so hour of that podcast was him speaking with anna kasparian that is the kind of

01:02:58.280 alliance that i think that nick is pointing to because anna has been able to change her views on

01:03:04.600 a lot of things and has kind of pulled back on a lot of the really insane aspects of leftism she doesn't

01:03:12.360 seem i i don't watch the young turks so please correct me if i'm wrong on this she doesn't seem to be

01:03:18.120 anti-white anymore explicitly at least and she has come down in favor of a lot more strict law and

01:03:25.640 order policies despite that i do see a lot of difficulties and potential pitfalls with what

01:03:33.240 he's advocating here asking the left to give up being like the progressive left to give up being

01:03:38.280 anti-white um yeah okay that's uh you know but he's and to give up on immigration which i'll talk

01:03:45.640 about i mean they're not going to do it the first thing every progressive democrat talks about is

01:03:51.960 give us more money to give to illegal aliens yeah and yeah and if he's saying that they would need to

01:03:56.520 give up the concessions for equity and civil rights well those those pieces of legislation are what

01:04:03.320 propels the anti-white social order i mean yeah well he said he'd say he wanted to he was quite

01:04:07.880 leaning on well yeah equality fine even said equity fine which is insane but it's not fine no equality

01:04:13.720 i could but understand he's saying you've just got to give up immigration and we've got to give up this

01:04:17.720 free market obsession and this foreign policy neocon stuff i think in principle it's okay he also does

01:04:23.000 seem to be like figuring this out on the fly thinking out loud in this clip despite it going viral

01:04:29.000 this what i am seeing here is not a fully fleshed out plan yet this is this is just getting the idea

01:04:35.240 out there and seeing how people will react to it in essence so i think it's correct the the if the

01:04:39.320 left would would do it the immigration thing just has to be stopped and then or massively reduced and

01:04:45.800 the right i think does have to look at the free market obsession again i think those two are actually

01:04:49.720 correct i personally not everyone would agree but gone no i i i agree with those general ideas okay

01:04:55.960 well let's just wanted to say something because it seems to me that i mean i know you you have my

01:05:01.800 post there but um i don't understand one thing if he says right now close the borders and uh let's

01:05:11.640 have progressive democrats and nationalist republicans work together and then he's framing it just on

01:05:18.040 the economic bit how does he keep the other political aspects here he frequently talks about

01:05:24.760 and i don't i don't want to put him necessarily in a particular corner because i don't watch his show

01:05:30.680 i don't want to necessarily say that's what he's on my mind i will have to make him be that thing but

01:05:37.960 it seems to me that a lot of people he represents are constantly talking about depriving people some

01:05:46.840 people from particular rights especially political rights political representation how will he get these

01:05:52.760 groups to the table because the progressive democrats and also many nationalist republicans

01:05:59.240 are saying right we we are a we are a society with lots of groups and a lot these groups are represented

01:06:06.680 in politics to whatever degree or not whether you like it or not they are in the us so how does he get

01:06:16.040 to sit down with them given the fact that many people from his audience constantly ask for lots of these

01:06:25.400 groups to not have rights as far as politics are concerned in other words this seems just economic and

01:06:33.880 also geopolitical when he's talking about support for israel i don't think there's also the political

01:06:39.160 aspect of it is like right um they don't seriously call for people to not have rights i don't think

01:06:44.120 no i'm not talking about civil rights but on the are are they and i'm just asking here i i i'm just

01:06:49.640 asking aren't they constant are they constantly saying that right some groups shouldn't have political

01:06:56.200 rights in the u.s and the u.s rights political rights must be confined to particular groups which

01:07:05.080 most republicans are against and i think almost every progressive democrat i'm not sure they've said

01:07:09.720 that i mean obviously he says women shouldn't vote i'm asking um yeah i'm not sure he said that as

01:07:15.320 such you'd have to give me specific examples but um again this doesn't seem to be a fully fleshed out

01:07:20.280 idea yeah he is he's relaunching his what is it is america first pack yeah in january or february so

01:07:27.560 perhaps this is something that they're going to try and pursue with a greater depth yeah let's see i

01:07:33.160 mean inevitably dinesh calls him a nazi um because he says this is what he's saying is national socialism

01:07:38.760 nick finally makes his move to put the socialism back in national socialism he's taking up goebbels

01:07:43.160 point that capitalism is evil and socialism is the heart of nazism nationalism is merely a qualifier

01:07:47.720 for socialism national is the adjective and socialism is the noun frentice has already responded to that

01:07:52.520 and saying it's it's stupid just because that was the name of hitler's party doesn't mean he's doing

01:07:57.480 that yeah stelios had a more reasonable response which i was going to include before i knew you were

01:08:01.720 on the show today i was just going to hope i could mention that then move on but now you're actually here

01:08:04.920 to annoyingly put your view and ruin my whole narrative no but you were you were criticizing more

01:08:10.120 from a sort of classical liberal perspective or whatever term you would use but you were saying um

01:08:14.760 well i don't know it feels really to read your own tweet to you i just think that basically the the

01:08:19.160 left doesn't have to give just immigration away they have to give up on socialism progressivism

01:08:25.400 extreme egalitarianism equity the hatred of naturally emerging hierarchies because that's

01:08:31.160 where equality of opportunity turns into equality of outcome with equity and the right must give up

01:08:37.960 i think on anti-intellectualism passivity um appeals to daddy government and a progressive parenting

01:08:44.840 style treatment of transgressive and subversive outrage porn merchants and both have to give up

01:08:51.960 mass migration because they want it for different reasons so you agree on that point uh ecophobia

01:08:57.080 which is hatred of one's countries the opposite of patriotism is treating virtue as the expression of

01:09:03.960 i hate my country sentiment and utopian rhetoric that makes them pander to resentful people

01:09:11.320 i just realized lots of people are just no realists actually we call that oikophobia but it comes from

01:09:15.480 a greek word oikos so you probably know how to say it it's just a whole debate okay how you pronounce

01:09:21.000 it it's no it doesn't matter yeah all right so you had a slightly different take i mean yeah you would

01:09:25.000 you would probably not like the amount of government that's involved in these kind of uh statements no and

01:09:29.640 the kind of criticism that conservatives are making of socialists still applies i mean the problems

01:09:36.520 with having a a command economy and the problems with centralizing the economy they don't go away

01:09:43.400 obviously i can i can definitely come to the table and talk to people such as you who i think

01:09:49.320 are uh in some respects a bit more in favor of centralized control and say things like we should

01:09:56.200 nationalize particular industries yeah i'm a realist i'm real i'm realist i'm i think eventually

01:10:04.440 any kind of political compromise will have to involve something of that sort okay yeah well the

01:10:09.720 more you read into it i mean people like john gray have quite compelling critiques of the free

01:10:14.280 market in in his book false storm for example but it's sort of the the right or the classical

01:10:19.560 liberal type person will blame the government where he'll blame the free market you end up

01:10:23.240 realizing they're saying almost exactly the same thing but they're just they're just apportioning

01:10:28.360 it blamed to a different uh cause but anyway let me let's carry on and see that actually charlie

01:10:33.800 downs had a very similar i don't know if he watched the fuentes clip he had a very he almost certainly

01:10:37.480 did yeah he said i mean look like straight after this clip starts going around and charlie's like i've

01:10:42.600 had an amazing brand new idea i love you charlie i'm just saying yeah he says why is there but it's

01:10:47.320 interesting that young people are asking it why is the right so ready to capitalism and zionism

01:10:50.440 now some people are great sizes sticking zionism in it i'm not even going to go down that rabbit

01:10:53.880 hole today why is the left so wedded to mass immigration and anti-white racism why is social

01:10:57.960 conservatism always coupled with economic liberalism why is economic conservatism always

01:11:02.040 coupled with social liberalism why are we told that these configurations are the only options

01:11:06.920 why they're presented to the public as being in opposition to one another when both seem to

01:11:10.040 serve the interests of the same entrenched ruling class and so on and it that that's the key i mean

01:11:15.160 and obviously you've spoken to william cluston or dan did and i had him on my podcast he's the kind of

01:11:20.040 person raising this but this formula ostensibly what people actually want particularly british people

01:11:26.040 isn't really offered strangely and and and charlie's starting to notice that and there is a

01:11:32.680 generational battle particularly in america i've noticed the sort of neocon free market right and

01:11:38.600 then the younger people and it's kind of in general the post-war paradigm and uh frankly i'm tired of it

01:11:46.600 like a lot of people are uh and i i i joke with charlie but uh this is something that a lot of

01:11:52.360 people are independently coming to which is realizing that the you the uh uniparty divides within america

01:12:00.760 within the uk i would imagine a lot of other countries as well but we don't have proportional

01:12:05.240 representation like a lot of european countries do either way this this whole setup of the two big

01:12:10.680 parties which are different in minor ways but on all of the big subjects like mass migration

01:12:18.200 like civil rights like um like anti-white discrimination are all agreed they're all

01:12:24.360 agreed on these same huge things which are actually far more important overall than the tiny little

01:12:29.400 differences that they have we're all going why does it have to be this way why does it have to be a

01:12:34.600 choice between huge government that hates me and says they like the free market and huge government

01:12:42.520 that also hates me but says they don't like the free market quite as much but actually do in reality

01:12:48.120 do all the same things economically exactly why why does that have to be but one's in one's in blue

01:12:53.720 and one's in red no i don't like that i don't want that i don't think these are fair choices i don't

01:12:58.920 think they're real choices yeah and that was and i started with saying left and right is out mode and

01:13:02.920 everyone especially since brexit has been saying that but yeah it hasn't actually been any change

01:13:07.240 along those lines um anyway on the generational thing shapiro sums up uh his take it let's just

01:13:13.640 watch this and if you're a young person and you can't afford to live here then maybe you should not

01:13:17.560 live here i mean that is a real thing yeah i know that we've now grown up in a society that says that

01:13:23.000 you deserve to live where you grew up but the reality is that the history of america is almost

01:13:27.880 literally the opposite of that the history of america is you go to a place where there is opportunity

01:13:32.760 and if the opportunities are limited here and they're not changing then you really should try

01:13:36.680 to think about other places where you have better opportunities i i want to say i don't get the

01:13:45.080 massive backlash against this because this is the clip of the interview where he's talking about mamdani

01:13:51.000 and he's talking about cities he doesn't say as many people made it you don't you can't make

01:13:56.840 make a living in your own country live your own country that's not what everybody was talking about

01:14:02.040 cities and i i mean most of the people i know they don't work in the city where they grew up

01:14:07.880 well everybody who i saw responding negatively to this was responding from the perspective of

01:14:13.480 he's talking about new york and cities i think the reason this annoyed a lot of people myself

01:14:17.960 included is one it completely dismisses and ignores all of the reasons why the cities have gotten so bad

01:14:23.960 outside of like oh my god ma'am danny got voted why did ma'am danny get voted in is it because of

01:14:29.640 huge open borders policies that have completely demographically shifted i know you don't care

01:14:33.640 about the browning of america ben but a lot of people actually do um uh have the demographic shifts

01:14:40.920 have changed this people have also pointed out well if you're trying to make a good living for yourself

01:14:46.600 cities are still where the jobs are in a place like america everybody talks about how like

01:14:53.400 ben has spoken about before how the rust belt and all of these small towns in america have been

01:14:58.760 completely destroyed by economic financialization where all of the all of the industry has been

01:15:04.200 offshored to places like china so if you want a a good paying job with a good standard of living

01:15:10.520 you are probably going to have to work in or near a city so why should it be that i have to work in the

01:15:17.000 city i'm forced into a position where i have to move away and work in a city but also don't earn

01:15:21.640 enough to be able to live in the city meaning that 90 of my life is spent in work and in the

01:15:28.840 commute yeah that's fair yeah i understand what steles is saying as well i can understand that

01:15:34.120 and english people of course traditionally have moved a lot to find work and then they sort of

01:15:38.680 set up their castle which you can't do anymore because you can't buy a house that's a big problem

01:15:42.680 with that as well but it's i think it's the the shapiro scene is just being free market above all else

01:15:48.200 isn't he and john gray had a good quote where he said the innermost contradiction of the free market

01:15:52.360 is that it works to weaken the traditional social institutions on which it has depended in the past

01:15:56.680 so this is the kind of problem with it it kind of destroys itself in the end uh in his in his claim

01:16:02.840 anyway people reacted because i know you're saying there's nuance to it but they felt that shapiro was

01:16:07.560 just doing his classic thing of shut up move to get your job and people say well what about our community

01:16:12.360 which he didn't seem to care about if you believe tucker who responded fairly aggressively to it

01:16:17.640 it's just feeling that way about someone in your own country imagine having that level of contempt

01:16:23.400 for a fellow american you don't even know anything about the person's young people they're not entitled

01:16:26.520 to live where they want they'll live where blackrock tells them they can live it's like whoa if you had

01:16:31.800 a thought like that i've had some ugly thoughts i just admitted having some ugly thoughts boy i would try

01:16:34.760 and push it back and not express it ben says it without any embarrassment because he means it

01:16:37.640 that's exactly right because he means it i don't think that you can win a popular debate with that

01:16:44.040 attitude because irrespective of the content of your sentence people can feel the loathing that

01:16:49.560 the speaker has for them ben shapiro does not care about you at all he's not even pretending to care

01:16:54.280 about you so again it really doesn't matter what he's selling that guy is not going to make the sale

01:16:58.280 if people are free to buy whatever they want it's like i don't know what that guy's selling but he

01:17:01.720 doesn't like me i can feel it right away he doesn't care at all about me at all and he thinks so little

01:17:05.720 of me he's not even gonna like put on the dog he's not gonna try to pretend to care about me

01:17:10.360 and a guy like that he really needs censorship and bullying to succeed because the free market

01:17:17.080 does not reward a man like that at all ever because people don't like it why would they like it

01:17:21.240 okay here's another clip and people some people disingenuously took that out of context and said

01:17:24.600 he's saying that shapiro should be censored of course he's saying shapiro can only rely on censorship

01:17:28.920 because those ideas just won't be popular if they actually have to compete yeah yeah the the argument

01:17:33.240 that has been made is that ben shapiro actually benefited from the left censoring voices to the

01:17:39.400 right of ben shapiro by meaning that by making it so that he was the only game in town yeah seems

01:17:45.480 quite plausible doesn't it um because yeah and i do think it's a generational thing tucker is the kind

01:17:49.880 of uncle representing it's really sort of fuentes versus shapiro and he kind of is representing that

01:17:54.680 younger generation in a in a sense um so my claim is that the that while the right is sort of realizing some

01:18:00.840 of the flaws of the it can't all be just about money and free market liberal ideas the left if

01:18:07.400 you go back to the original fuentes clip they're not quite doing the other part which is the give

01:18:11.560 up on immigration part even though it's staring them in the face because even if they can't do the

01:18:14.760 cultural part they could at least say this is ruining domestic suppressing domestic wages they

01:18:19.640 can't even do the old left part so they're completely just s libs on that go on can i question you

01:18:25.480 on that yeah if we have time we don't have much time but go on go on no i'll be very fast so

01:18:31.800 it seems to me that one of the reasons why the us is much better in a much better state right now than

01:18:37.880 the than europe is that the us has a much freer market so for me for me from my perspective why

01:18:45.880 shouldn't i say right okay i'm i'm open to the conversation of having a minimal safety net which may

01:18:53.480 be a bit uh too much for some americans and a bit too little for some europeans but let me say i'm

01:19:01.160 willing to consider that because i am realistically speaking and pragmatically speaking and why not

01:19:07.160 just say for me that the problem is we should do the the old milton friedman uh thing which is we

01:19:14.680 shouldn't combine extreme welfarism with mass migration so why not we just keep the free market

01:19:21.560 temperate temperate just a bit so that there is some so that you know there isn't massive social

01:19:28.680 frictions with respect to how social inequality sometimes can lead people to crime it's just an

01:19:35.800 issue of numbers there are tendencies there so why not just saying right instead of having all the

01:19:41.240 this other thing that is trying to be pushed towards me as you know the anti-world war ii narrative

01:19:49.240 why should i just not say well let's just reverse extreme welfarism and its combination with open

01:19:56.040 borders yeah i've heard lots of libertarians say that it's just you can have they sometimes say

01:19:59.800 you can have a welfare state or you can have open borders you can't have both yeah you clearly you

01:20:02.840 can't have both yeah clearly uk yeah you know i think i hate that libertarian phrase anyway because

01:20:08.440 you can't have open borders in any circumstance but no one on the right would disagree they might

01:20:12.440 disagree with well they are open for some some people they are open what do you mean like for

01:20:18.360 big financing interests um yeah why not i mean you mentioned the brining of america before lots of

01:20:25.160 people will come up on the uk shores on a daily basis with boats it depends what you call it i i don't

01:20:33.080 no no i'm i'm saying that the best way forward is to not have extreme welfarism and open borders you

01:20:40.520 have to close borders and restrict welfare no i i agree i'm saying that what nick said was the

01:20:45.800 was the libertarian thing you can have i you can have um one or the other not both i'm saying under

01:20:52.760 no circumstances can you ever have open borders because because if you have open borders even if

01:20:58.680 you do not have a welfare state the fact of the matter is societies created by the descend by europeans and

01:21:05.080 their descendants will just be of such a vastly better living standard even if you are at the

01:21:11.320 lowest rung of society they will still flock to our countries yeah and another thing a critique of

01:21:16.040 the free market part though is that the corporations when talking about the global free market of course

01:21:20.120 corporations want these this cheap labor to come in that's another part that strangely the left

01:21:24.200 misses the open goal where they could they always say it's the billionaires but they don't ever say

01:21:28.360 billionaires are bringing but it's not the poor immigrant it's the billionaire but it's the billionaires

01:21:32.120 that's what polanski does it's he constantly focuses on the billionaires but no but the issue is that what

01:21:38.520 progressive democrats are doing and the leftists are doing is that they have gone global they're

01:21:43.080 globalists yeah and because they've gone global they don't think in terms of rich and poor domestically

01:21:48.840 they think in terms of rich and poor globally that's why almost every person if in the working class of

01:21:55.880 western nations who is a descendant of them counts as globally rich that's why they won't give up what

01:22:04.200 fuentes thinks they're going to give up right and it's good here's a good example of clive lewis

01:22:08.200 who actually who you know you think clive lewis can't say anything sensible but around the unite the

01:22:12.200 kingdom march he actually did say this quite sensible thing about the sort of deracination of

01:22:16.680 communities he said he had a friend who's who went to the march and he talked about the way communities

01:22:22.280 that have been destroyed but he can only cite the free market part of course he can't do the other

01:22:27.960 part and he actually then went on to criticize the 1950s intolerance here so he says oh that's

01:22:33.800 not the answer so they can never do the cultural part and the immigration they can only do hey i'll

01:22:38.280 meet you part way which is that yes i understand that he says we replace collective experience with

01:22:42.680 atomization and so on any you know we've lost the affordability and all this kind of thing so they can

01:22:48.680 do that part they can't do the other part and if you see the reaction to shabana mahmoud just saying

01:22:53.240 maybe you know whether she's going to do it or not but her even saying let's have a border they all go

01:22:58.040 absolutely bat bleep and they say we've now reached the stage where labor government has taken direct

01:23:02.760 policy inspiration from nazi germany and they say that whether she's the exact same as enoch powell

01:23:08.520 so you just see the left isn't grasping it at all is my just point there they're not they're not

01:23:13.160 doing the immigration thing at all i don't really see them doing it um one of the few people doing it

01:23:18.040 is actually nick timothy he he had a kind of imperfect vessel for this because he was special

01:23:22.760 advisor to theresa may and she was not going to be able to do any of his ideas but he actually has

01:23:27.320 a book remaking one nation and he has it in this article here where he actually he's criticizes the

01:23:32.200 ultra-liberalism of the market on one side and the ultra-liberalism socially on the other side

01:23:37.800 and he had an interesting quote in his book that just sums this up he says across the party divide

01:23:41.560 there is a commitment only to liberalism but to different forms of ideological liberalism

01:23:45.640 markets trump institutions individualism trumps community and group rights trump broader national

01:23:51.400 identities legal rights come before civic obligations personal freedom beats commitment

01:23:56.520 and universalism erodes citizenship we're experiencing a crisis of liberal democracy that is driven by the

01:24:01.320 excesses of ideological ultra-liberals so in the book he says that some of the actual liberal thinking

01:24:07.640 of you know lock et al was okay but what we have now is what he calls ideological ultra-liberalism the

01:24:13.000 reason i researched all that is because i was going to have him on my podcast and you have to

01:24:15.800 cancel but he's someone who's you're salty he's no no but he's someone who's who's actually talking

01:24:19.960 about this william klusner you've had on here yeah but they're very sensible very sensible but they're

01:24:23.960 very few and far between that is the compromise um and just to recognize your position as well so

01:24:30.120 people like uh christian nebis of course of savage nick timothy's position say it's nonsense on stilts so

01:24:37.400 it is only one argument but i do think that is where more people are going to go but and you do

01:24:43.560 have question marks over i'm just trying to pack in loads here but you have question marks over like

01:24:46.760 reform where do they sit because obviously they came from the brexit party they seem to be sort of

01:24:51.560 inherently thatch right at times they talk about nationalizing steel and things so do they really

01:24:55.720 grasp it i think this is is where things are going to move but but are the parties going to grasp it i

01:25:00.200 don't know anyway go on and with that yeah let's get on to the last super chats rumble rants and

01:25:06.920 video comments do you want to do the video comments first harry there is another harry sat right so

01:25:13.800 i'm not speaking okay pn cam the free market doesn't work for housing since there is no freedom to supply

01:25:20.040 new land a lot of people would argue that there's a lot of legislation preventing the opening up of land

01:25:26.360 that's not in use yeah well housing is tricky one because some people say like william klusner it

01:25:29.560 just needs far more state involved other people say the state's the problem it is a place where

01:25:33.880 everything comes together because young people can't get houses then then you can blame immigration but

01:25:37.640 you can also blame the free market anyway aren't also these laws tougher in the uk than in the us

01:25:43.800 um i don't know about the uk in the us like the thomas sol has written a lot about um land laws that

01:25:50.200 make it so that you're not able to open up land for use for housing which make it absolutely skyrocket

01:25:56.120 in places like california although there are other factors that he doesn't talk about as much in the

01:26:01.960 books that i've read right okay uh matty ice shapiro says you can't stay in a place you can't afford this

01:26:09.240 will never be the case for um for israel he lies that's what he's made um he also doesn't really

01:26:15.640 criticize the population exploding through immigration fraud combination is key all right let's go to the

01:26:21.160 uh videos

01:26:27.640 california refugee really interesting book in my used bookstore about weimar era fairy tales let's read an

01:26:33.400 excerpt it says moreover the grim and beckstein tales often conserve a medieval notion of might makes

01:26:40.200 right along with typical bourgeois myths of industriousness cleanliness and truthfulness as holiness

01:26:48.360 now by that standard i'm a medievalist what about you guys i think it's a good term let's be

01:26:53.960 medievalists i've heard a lot of people use that phrase and it is a it is a good one

01:27:02.200 let's go to the next one i found this really interesting book it's the same video

01:27:08.040 next one please mechanomancer tim pool occasionally makes a joke that ai will end up obsessing over

01:27:15.400 corn since it is a multi-purpose resource so i had chat gpt render this image specifying tim pool

01:27:22.200 in a corncob neighborhood wearing a corncob costume driving a corncob car i then asked chat gpt to make

01:27:28.520 up its own funny tim pool meme using what it knows and it made this ai is like cruise control even with

01:27:36.200 cruise control you still have to steer there's so much to be said this that image it says so much

01:27:43.960 about society let's go the next one by michael dribel bis uh harry this is gonna be the same is this

01:27:51.400 gonna be the same thing yeah yeah just play it just to be sure just to be sure but let's watch the first

01:27:55.720 few seconds no it's a diff uh oh michael drape albis okay and a mouse wait there's gonna be a trap

01:28:05.560 somewhere is this listed as michael drape albis or mechnomancer because this michael the mechnomancer

01:28:13.640 yeah yeah because he's talking about the neck so there won't be a trap okay i think michael would set

01:28:19.560 a trap to that mice mouse right uh next one please my father who spends half his time in canada and i

01:28:27.560 were discussing this magic soil theory and we both came to the same conclusion as mr spock observed in

01:28:34.760 the original series episode mirror mirror it is far easier for you as civilized men to act as barbarians

01:28:43.080 than it is for them as barbarians to act like civilized men it isn't just importing the grabtastic

01:28:50.040 third world it's importing the 10th century okay could somebody stop playing with the second mouse

01:28:58.280 whoever's doing that there is a second mouse on the screen and i can see it and somebody was playing

01:29:02.920 with it it's very distracting and also let's go to the yeah these are the videos okay so the barbarians

01:29:11.800 now want reparations for what ultimately england great britain brought the trappings of civilization

01:29:19.240 to the savages roads schools running water indoor plumbing electricity the concept of human rights

01:29:25.320 human value and individualism but once the british left the savages who did not build

01:29:31.640 the civilization didn't care to maintain it this is why the federation had the prime directive

01:29:37.240 never tried to advance a people beyond their ability to comprehend it as far as i'm aware star trek has

01:29:43.960 a light is mostly cases where they break the prime directive as well because picard is a bleeding

01:29:50.280 heart liberal a teddy bear with anatomically correct innards a pink we've already seen this one we

01:29:57.960 already saw this one yesterday uh give us sam weston because it might be some repeats from yesterday go on

01:30:05.160 if it's the same we could just go to the comments afterwards harry i mentioned to you and luca on the

01:30:11.080 last gold tier zoom call that i have a collection of what has since become 60 ps2 games nice including

01:30:23.480 the first two god of war games nice god hand devil may cry and devil may cry 3 based destroy all humans based and

01:30:33.960 the suffering based how much did you spend on a ps2 copy of god hand that's good that is an insanely

01:30:43.240 difficult game to find on disc that's that's very very impressive next one bye i'm in york and somewhere

01:30:52.200 the stellios should be familiar with yep oh yes uh sydney gardens st mary's abbey whoa absolutely gorgeous

01:31:03.240 no sydney garden those are in bath i think they are the museum gardens beautiful round tower here

01:31:14.120 and you know it's roman from that line of brick

01:31:19.800 gorgeous thanks that's the king right so let's uh there's there's uh i think we should because we've

01:31:25.720 got lads hour in a moment yeah yeah so i think there's just one more super chat that's been sent

01:31:30.760 in for ten dollars i want to read that one read it and with the others speaking of extreme ideological

01:31:36.280 liberalism to understand what's going on with the adl one has to understand the adl is unfortunately

01:31:40.200 infected with woke brain worms brain worms pray for their sanity no they have always been an awful

01:31:45.240 organization look into how they started right okay so i think we should go with two three comments from

01:31:51.800 our subscribers for our segments so i'll start with cambrian kulak you guys need to look at lionel

01:31:59.080 penrose's hypothesis the inverse relationship between number of prison beds and mental health beds the

01:32:05.720 number of mental health beds is plummeting they're increasing prison spaces problem is thought criminals

01:32:12.120 are now a thing compounded by the caring approach to badness and dick nixon says there was a very

01:32:20.040 similar attack in new york not too long ago i hate how normalized these kinds of atrocities have become

01:32:26.840 every day there is a new one and forget the old and justin phillips to for a great britain made into

01:32:34.440 the east asian world we stopped sati and thuggy practices when windows were burned widows were burned

01:32:41.640 and cultists went around struggling and robbing people in worship of their god i'll read two from mine

01:32:47.560 michael trey bulbous yeah the adl and spLC are simply anti-white hate groups they blow the

01:32:52.280 statistics out of proportion and make assumptions based on simple population not per capita true

01:32:57.320 and also arizona desert rat says there's white people in spain yes that's true spanish people are

01:33:02.920 white mexicans are different from spanish people and they may have some common ancestry but uh spanish

01:33:09.400 people aren't descended from aztecs and other um another south american populations they're just european

01:33:14.840 do you want me to do a couple so um we've got ptolemy here was a good one the center of western

01:33:19.800 politics was never real it was a construction of the media political complex the most popular

01:33:24.040 position for decades has been left-wing economics and right-wing social policy yeah i agree and

01:33:27.880 dominic cummings has said that and thanes scotty of swindon oikophobia is pronounced ecophobia and

01:33:33.480 derives originally from the ancient greek word for the house oikos and which now means family

01:33:38.280 oikogenia fun fact is also the root of the english word economy i knew that because we took from the greek

01:33:43.080 household management and oikonomia i knew the economy bit and i knew what oikos meant from roger

01:33:48.360 scrutin i just didn't know the pronunciation i suddenly realized stelios could probably mug me on

01:33:52.360 that it's a weird thing because oh in some people say that it's oikos others say it's ecos or economia

01:33:59.640 that's how i mean you are greek so you tell us yeah but it's a linguist issue i always said oikos but

01:34:05.400 then he said it's not like north versus south when i hear path and bath versus no no no we're

01:34:10.680 right on that economy i just i tend to have the the reaction of a vampire who's thrown holy water

01:34:19.400 just i can't stand it the people in the office do know it's not christmas yet it's still november

01:34:24.680 it's not but it's november and it's a jolly period you just had my birthday right so it's

01:34:30.200 25 to 3 3 o'clock there's lads hour be with us here for lads hour have also a great weekend

01:34:38.520 and see you also after lads hour we'll see you again 1 p.m this coming monday goodbye

01:34:54.680 so

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - November 21, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1301

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