The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1302

00:00:00.200 I'm joined by Stelius Ferris and Joseph Robertson, political strategist, and we are going to be talking about how the British government has decided, actually, they do need to experiment on children.

00:00:11.600 We are also going to talk about how Elon's big reveal has been illuminating, and then we're going to chew out some stay-at-home mums, because they don't work hard, they don't do anything, and really, you know, we shouldn't consider it a job at all, or so I've been told. 1.00

00:00:30.000 Anyway, without further ado, let's get on with it.

00:00:32.060 It's going to be exciting.

00:00:33.820 So West Reading has come out and decided that there is such a thing as children with gender incongruence, it does, you know, and decided that affirmation should be an option here, and that really what's required is more evidence to look at whether or not blocking the puberty of children can, in fact, be good for them.

00:00:57.600 So he's allocated around £11 million for this study, and it's going to be done by King's College in London, by two scientists, but I use the term hesitantly, Michael Absoud and Emily Simonov.

00:01:15.440 And they are going to be looking at whether or not blocking the puberty of kids is, in fact, a good idea.

00:01:24.040 Now, the target of this experiment is, by definition, underage children.

00:01:29.320 It can only, the study can only be done by experimenting, literally, on children, and injecting them with enormously destructive drugs that intentionally block their puberty.

00:01:43.900 And I think transgender trend here had a very, very good article about it that I really encourage you to read.

00:01:54.340 And they say that essentially what they argue correctly is that what has happened previously was that the gender identity service at the Tavistock Clinic had done all kinds of studies, and they refused to release their own data.

00:02:16.540 So we've also learned that follow-up data on outcomes for children have been through Tavistock GIDS, which the Adult Transgender Identity Clinic refused to share, was never released to the CAS review research team.

00:02:30.500 The CAS review research team did a big study on these puberty blockers and said that there was no evidence that they were beneficial.

00:02:38.540 But the study was done by people who really wanted this kind of thing to continue.

00:02:44.740 It's just that they could find absolutely no evidence for it.

00:02:47.840 And so they had to say that, look, unbalanced, the evidence is that this is harmful.

00:02:51.920 So there is data there to be looked at because they experimented with around 2,000 children who were prescribed puberty blockers.

00:03:01.000 These children are out there, and if you wanted to do research on this topic, you would just have to track what has happened to them over the long term.

00:03:10.460 Rather than do that, they decided to launch a new experiment on 200 children to study the long-term effects of these puberty blockers.

00:03:18.980 But by long-term, they mean two years.

00:03:22.020 So no actual science is going to come out of this.

00:03:24.840 No actual beneficial research is going to come out of this.

00:03:28.220 The article continues and says,

00:03:58.220 And this is exactly right.

00:04:28.100 This is precisely the truth of the matter.

00:04:32.200 There is no way that this can be beneficial to children.

00:04:36.920 And we've known this for some time, and we've run this experiment for some time.

00:04:42.260 But even as this experiment was run, there was a study that was funded by Fering Pharmaceuticals.

00:04:48.940 This is an excellent post here from Connor Tomlinson, by the way.

00:04:51.540 I encourage you to see it.

00:04:52.560 There was a study funded by Fering Pharmaceuticals that produces a puberty blocker.

00:04:59.940 So you can see immediately the conflict of interest there.

00:05:01.980 That followed 70 children that were prescribed first puberty blockers and then cross-sex hormones.

00:05:09.540 That is intended to sort of change the appearance of children so that they appear to be of the opposite sex. 0.96

00:05:15.700 They didn't wait for the results of the study.

00:05:20.360 They just kept on prescribing cross-sex hormones after blocking puberty.

00:05:26.240 And so all of them went on to take cross-sex hormones, which is sort of what you're supposed to be studying.

00:05:33.460 So you've put the conclusion before the study.

00:05:36.760 They lost 20% of the sample size.

00:05:40.880 They lost track of 15 out of the 70.

00:05:45.240 So that's a huge number that makes the study completely invalid. 0.92

00:05:50.420 And one of the children died because of the medical procedures that he was undergoing while they were trying to place a vagina on the body of a boy. 0.61

00:06:04.240 This means that if they study 200 children, you're looking at three children dying on average. 0.51

00:06:12.260 This is a huge harm.

00:06:14.480 This is deeply destructive.

00:06:16.340 And we know that this is destructive without the need for any further research.

00:06:23.760 There is no objective reason to study this any further.

00:06:28.120 It's definitionally destructive.

00:06:29.840 It's definitionally destructive and it's proven destructive.

00:06:34.240 So there's no debate here.

00:06:36.280 What we must do instead is to try to analyze the causes of this and to understand what is animating these people.

00:06:44.200 This is West Streeting, the health secretary who's authorized this, as I mentioned earlier.

00:06:50.400 And he says that the ban of puberty blockers was necessary because of the evidence and that he was highly constrained.

00:06:58.380 He could do nothing about it to sort of keep this experiment going, even though he wanted to.

00:07:05.620 And the ban made him deeply uncomfortable.

00:07:08.780 So the question that arises really is why is he uncomfortable with this?

00:07:13.140 Why is he uncomfortable with the idea that there is a natural order that says that boys are boys and girls are girls and they have different roles?

00:07:23.500 Because fundamentally, let's go through a couple of others here before we get there, because I want to explore a little bit of the tension and the ideology.

00:07:32.540 This is Harry Ackley's.

00:07:35.500 He is a entertainer on X who says that he's a nurse.

00:07:40.520 His account says that he's based in Indonesia.

00:07:44.320 OK, fine.

00:07:45.800 But this is the tension at the heart of this ideology.

00:07:50.040 He claims that being gay isn't the choice, even though the largest genetic study on homosexual individuals found that it is not defined by genetics, that there is no genetic reason why somebody would be gay.

00:08:05.580 It's not actually predetermined.

00:08:07.640 But he insists that it is.

00:08:09.460 And then he extends that and says that being trans isn't the choice, being disabled isn't the choice.

00:08:14.280 Well, if you mutilate your own body and end up disabled as a result, there is a question mark there.

00:08:21.740 The color of your skin isn't a choice.

00:08:23.400 Finally, we agree.

00:08:25.960 Be good.

00:08:27.040 Love your neighbor.

00:08:27.820 Blah, blah, blah.

00:08:28.700 He completely misunderstands the meaning of love your neighbor.

00:08:31.140 That's a different story.

00:08:32.120 I like the way that all he can do now is invoke Christian morality, though.

00:08:35.540 Yes.

00:08:36.660 Yes.

00:08:36.980 He described himself.

00:08:37.980 Fundamentally misunderstood.

00:08:39.500 Well, yeah.

00:08:40.000 Fundamentally misunderstood.

00:08:40.840 And this is Dr. Helen Weberley, more like, anyway.

00:08:49.400 She is a strong advocate for this.

00:08:52.500 And I want you to listen to her for a couple of seconds, and then we can pick her message apart a little bit.

00:08:58.240 If we could maybe shrink this to, let's see.

00:09:03.040 So, hold on.

00:09:18.280 To boil it down to biology, essentially, gametes or other physical manifestations of your sex, is very mathematical.

00:09:29.700 What she's invoking here is that there is a spiritual dimension, that there is an inherent self that needs to be expressed.

00:09:36.460 So, in a real sense, she's conflating the soul with sexual identity.

00:09:43.800 This is a corrupted idea of the human soul.

00:09:47.060 Instead of it being eternal, created by God, touched by the Holy Spirit, a part of the Holy Spirit within all of us, really, it's a question of sexuality.

00:09:58.360 So, there is that spiritual dimension there.

00:10:01.900 But then, when you listen to her further, it becomes also clear that she believes it's a choice.

00:10:10.300 It's an identity.

00:10:12.220 Anybody can choose this identity.

00:10:14.600 So, there is this tension in the transgender ideology between this being innate and this being a choice.

00:10:21.140 On the innate side, as I said, this is a very corrupted expression of what a soul is.

00:10:28.620 This is a sexualized expression of what a soul is.

00:10:31.560 But on the choice side, it really matters.

00:10:36.300 Because what these people are saying is that you should be free enough from all constraints and all of nature and all of hierarchy. 0.98

00:10:46.180 So that if there is a baby that you don't want, you can kill it.

00:10:49.620 And if there is a relationship that is unnatural, you should be free to pursue it anyway, because you want to.

00:10:57.820 And if there is a different sex that you want to pretend to be, you should also be allowed to do that.

00:11:06.140 So, in a very real sense, and I know Brother Stelios is going to disagree with me here,

00:11:10.440 this is the spirit of liberalism, that we should bring down some hierarchies, that everything is a matter of consent and choice,

00:11:20.120 taken to an extreme.

00:11:22.480 The debate, I think, is whether or not a natural conclusion or an extreme.

00:11:26.500 But let's say extreme for now.

00:11:27.880 And that people should be completely free of anything that constrains them. 0.99

00:11:35.480 And that if you try to tie them down to reality and say to them, no, no, you can't actually be a man if you're born with a vagina, 1.00

00:11:50.080 then you're basically attacking them. 0.98

00:11:53.240 And you even see that expressed in the kinds of court judgments that we've seen coming out in Britain in the past.

00:12:00.560 So, Kira Bell, who sued the Tavistock Clinic in 2020 because she was given puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones as a teenager,

00:12:11.240 said that she's going to fight this.

00:12:13.080 But in her case, the high court had ruled that under-16s were unlikely to be able to give informed consent.

00:12:22.640 And then the court of appeal ruled that, no, doctors can judge whether or not young people can give consent.

00:12:29.120 And consent here is the operative word because neither court looked at truth or reality or what is verifiable.

00:12:41.540 Both the high court and the court of appeal based their decision on whether or not this was consent freely given

00:12:51.700 and therefore whether or not it was right for the children to pursue this path if they wanted to.

00:12:59.120 which really sort of, again, it's the very spirit of liberalism taken to an extreme,

00:13:10.080 the idea being that you shouldn't be constrained by what is above,

00:13:14.860 be it divine authority or political authority or social hierarchy.

00:13:18.880 So I'm going to disagree with you on this bit.

00:13:20.540 Everything should depend on consent.

00:13:22.880 It's not about the spirit from above.

00:13:24.480 That's not how they think.

00:13:25.860 They're actually thinking of material universe.

00:13:28.540 You'll notice that everything for them is about determinism.

00:13:32.420 Yes.

00:13:33.240 Excuse me.

00:13:36.680 Bless you.

00:13:37.600 Sorry.

00:13:38.400 I'm still ill.

00:13:39.260 The very nature of this is to suggest that actually the human body is somehow a fundamentally oppressive instrument.

00:13:47.760 Yes.

00:13:48.020 Because deterministically you are born with one of two gametes and you will become a man or a woman.

00:13:52.920 This is chosen in advance for you.

00:13:54.940 And that was precisely her point.

00:13:56.840 She was saying this is fundamentally a form of oppression. 0.54

00:13:59.480 I do agree, though, that it is the spirit of liberalism taken to a ridiculous extreme where it's obviously inappropriate.

00:14:06.960 I want to give a different explanation because I think it accounts for some of the things that aren't particularly discussed in this,

00:14:16.820 but are hidden in plain sight, is that the explanation is power politics.

00:14:21.720 It's the following.

00:14:23.500 The people you mentioned, Harry Eccles, all these leftists, West Street-ing, they're not saying that, they're not against banning.

00:14:33.000 They're very much in favor of banning.

00:14:36.180 They want to ban free speech and brandy hate speech if you're criticizing their agenda.

00:14:40.740 So they're not having any kind of anarchist or extreme libertarian zero banning account.

00:14:49.540 They are allying right now with the trans lobby and with other people who think that they have the back of the trans lobby

00:14:58.480 and they want to be seen as having the back of the trans lobby.

00:15:02.100 So to me, this is power politics, West Street-ing, Harry Eccles, that lady you showed.

00:15:10.340 It's power politics.

00:15:11.640 They're trying to protect their own, their political friends.

00:15:15.400 Friends, and all this is just a giant pyramid of BS that they are using in order to hide the fact that they're doing power politics.

00:15:25.180 But let me agree with you.

00:15:26.340 I don't see this, but let me give you another surprise here.

00:15:30.200 I don't think that there is any kind of particular thinking in it,

00:15:36.040 but what I will give you is that frequently the language of rights can be abused in the same way that the language of common good can be abused,

00:15:46.460 which is one of the arguments that lots of libertarians are giving.

00:15:50.660 They're saying the common good, we shouldn't talk about the common good because it can go totalitarian, only rights.

00:15:58.840 But the rights also can be abused.

00:16:00.620 And I think what you're showing here is definitely a case of that.

00:16:03.480 So let me tell you where I agree with you.

00:16:07.780 The first point is that pretty much every major organization from NATO to the British government to most European governments to the WHO to the UN

00:16:17.600 all believe in affirming transgender identity, the WEF, etc.

00:16:22.480 They all believe in that.

00:16:24.060 And there is a power-related reason for it.

00:16:26.880 If I can make somebody say that a man is a woman, I can pretty much make them say anything. 0.99

00:16:31.000 And there is also the usefulness of this madness as a loyalty test.

00:16:39.500 If you're a middle manager and you want to signal to the company that you will do exactly whatever they want,

00:16:44.660 all you have to say is that no trans women are real women.

00:16:48.600 And why?

00:16:49.520 Because HR told me five minutes ago and now all of reality has changed.

00:16:54.520 It's worth losing my job over there.

00:16:55.540 Exactly.

00:16:56.440 So there is this power dynamic element to it.

00:16:59.480 Absolutely.

00:17:00.560 And there is this element of the language of rights gone mad.

00:17:04.800 You know, the right to deny reality, the right to deny biology.

00:17:07.840 But there is the question of where is this impulse coming from?

00:17:13.460 Can I just make a point there, Phil?

00:17:15.000 Please.

00:17:15.240 As well.

00:17:15.540 Because I think a lot of this conversation is being framed as one ideology or another.

00:17:20.320 The reality is what we're really talking about is a different framework.

00:17:23.420 Because liberalism or any other ideology operates behind a framework.

00:17:27.480 The framework in, let's call it the Western Hemisphere, for a long, long time has either been a Christian paradigm

00:17:34.060 or a neoliberitarian kind of Darwinistic approach to life.

00:17:40.200 Both are the two kind of fundamental approaches to life, in this country at least.

00:17:44.640 Right.

00:17:44.800 And now we're looking at a third framework that doesn't fit either of those two narratives.

00:17:49.140 So baseline talking about libertarianism or anything else doesn't really work here

00:17:53.780 because you're not actually fundamentally operating in the same framework anymore.

00:17:57.480 And so what we've really got to be talking about is what is the deeper framework that they're trying to impose

00:18:02.980 as opposed to a particular ideological kind of position.

00:18:06.280 And that's when you start talking about, well, what is their ultimate end?

00:18:09.660 Right.

00:18:10.060 And it's not necessarily any of the things we're discussing.

00:18:13.340 It's not communism in a pure form, although I'd say it's closer to communism than anything else.

00:18:18.540 And it's not really libertarianism.

00:18:20.200 It's a completely new way of looking at the world.

00:18:23.720 And that is what we've got to get to the core of.

00:18:25.760 And for me, this is a transhumanistic agenda.

00:18:29.740 This is where we take ourselves out of ideology and actually replace us with something new.

00:18:34.420 So the only thing I disagree with there is that we're taking ourselves out of ideology.

00:18:38.660 I think, I mean, you call it transhumanistic.

00:18:40.920 Sorry, existing ideology.

00:18:42.020 So it's a new, that's my point, it's a wider framework that we're looking at.

00:18:46.060 Yeah.

00:18:46.200 But basically the objective is liberation from the biology.

00:18:49.980 The material realm itself.

00:18:51.580 And the material realm itself.

00:18:52.440 Apart from those who control it.

00:18:53.940 Yeah.

00:18:54.500 Yes.

00:18:55.480 Yes.

00:18:56.080 No, I think that's fair.

00:18:57.340 So on your point, Stelios, I agree that that is a layer of it.

00:19:02.040 That is a level of it.

00:19:03.140 But if we can go back to West Streeting very quickly, I think that the reason that it unsettles

00:19:08.160 him is because he has a moral argument that underpins it, right?

00:19:12.140 And he's actually, and I think they're all like this.

00:19:15.680 Like, I don't think there's a difference between West Streeting and the trans lobby.

00:19:19.040 He is the trans lobby. 0.55

00:19:20.420 He is a part of it.

00:19:21.320 Because all it takes to become part of it is to have a moral commitment to it.

00:19:25.260 And so he is as much a part of it as anyone else on that side, as the doctor that you showed

00:19:30.340 as well.

00:19:31.360 So I don't think there's a difference there.

00:19:33.300 And I think they are genuinely morally motivated in the ways that they are telling us.

00:19:37.500 I don't think that they're concealing any, you know, alternative or hidden motivations

00:19:42.260 or beliefs.

00:19:42.980 I think they're being completely frank with us that they feel that these people are trapped

00:19:47.420 in the wrong bodies with all of the insane metaphysical commitments that they can't

00:19:51.180 possibly articulate that come along with that, as in, where was the person before they

00:19:55.180 were in the body then?

00:19:56.100 He explains this, you know.

00:19:57.960 I think they truly believe this.

00:19:59.360 And I think this, to them, is a truly moral mission in the same way that abolishing the

00:20:04.820 slave trade was back in the 1900s or the 1800s, sorry, 19th century.

00:20:11.220 This is a genuine crusade for them.

00:20:13.540 And I think you are correct that this is the spirit of liberalism that is taking us into

00:20:19.000 this new framework, this new paradigm into a place where we've not been before because

00:20:23.280 it was never appropriate to apply this spirit in this realm.

00:20:27.420 So I think this is something they will never stop.

00:20:30.460 And I think that's what explains, if we can go through Wes's little tirade here, because

00:20:35.420 I think this explains it.

00:20:36.700 Can we go up to the top?

00:20:37.720 I'll read it from the whole thing.

00:20:39.080 So he says, children with gender incongruence deserve safe, compassionate, effective care, 1.00

00:20:43.900 that health care must always be led by evidence.

00:20:46.100 So again, he's already taught past the sale here, right?

00:20:49.040 Because the question is not, is there evidence that we can change a child's sex?

00:20:54.200 Exactly.

00:20:54.480 Because, I mean, let's assume that technology will allow us to literally, at the molecular

00:20:59.200 level at some point in future, just put a kid in like a Star Trek style transporter,

00:21:03.760 teleport them to this other thing and just rearrange all their genes as we like.

00:21:06.760 Okay, even if we've got the technology to do it, should we do that?

00:21:10.720 And the answer has been decided for Wes.

00:21:12.900 Yes, of course we should.

00:21:13.980 We just need to know that the technology is sufficient.

00:21:16.500 So he says, the CAS review is clear.

00:21:18.680 There isn't enough evidence that puberty blockers are safe or beneficial for children

00:21:22.000 with gender incongruence.

00:21:24.020 Well, we assume that children can have gender incongruence, but obviously the medicine itself

00:21:29.100 is not safe or beneficial for them because it is interceding in a perfectly healthy natural

00:21:34.340 process to create an unhealthy, unnatural result.

00:21:38.980 And so Dr. Cass recommended a ban on prescribing them and a clinical trial to build that evidence.

00:21:45.000 So Dr. Cass has said, right, what I want to do, as you pointed out before we started,

00:21:50.500 she wants to do this, but can't bring herself to say it because the scientific evidence isn't there.

00:21:55.920 So I have to, I am forced to say for utilitarian reasons, not moral reasons, that we have to stop

00:22:04.420 prescribing them.

00:22:05.280 But then I want to start experimenting on children, more children, in order to try and build a case

00:22:11.020 for my presupposed ideological position, which is mad.

00:22:16.700 I mean, it sort of brings Mengele to mind, doesn't it?

00:22:19.220 I was going to say that, but I didn't want to go that far because it sounds a bit gorsh.

00:22:22.500 I do.

00:22:23.080 I mean, look, if you're going to experiment on people for the sake of a characteristic,

00:22:26.480 which obviously the Nazis were genuinely looking for reasons to make Jewish people

00:22:30.580 subhuman, right?

00:22:32.060 We're basically now looking for reasons to make children something different.

00:22:36.160 It's very, very, there's no difference at all.

00:22:38.340 In fact, it's worse because I don't think Mengele started out experimenting on children.

00:22:42.840 He did do on pregnant women. 0.99

00:22:44.000 He did eventually, but, you know, it took him a while.

00:22:45.900 These guys are going straight in at the deep end.

00:22:47.480 But it is genuinely monstrous what they're proposing, and we're streeting, was he the

00:22:52.400 health secretary?

00:22:53.220 Yes.

00:22:53.540 And he's in government, and he's just publicly saying, we're about to start experimenting

00:22:57.700 on children because we have a series of insane beliefs about the world, and we're going to

00:23:03.980 use your money to pay for it. 0.90

00:23:04.600 I mean, that story that Conor said about the guy dying on the table, having his genitals 0.97

00:23:10.480 removed.

00:23:10.980 I mean, this is the stuff of Stephen King.

00:23:13.720 This is not the stuff of government-style stuff.

00:23:17.220 And the question about, oh, well, they think the doctors can tell whether the children can

00:23:22.040 give informed consent.

00:23:23.000 Well, you don't have the information.

00:23:25.480 That's the purpose of the study, is to gather this information.

00:23:28.320 So you can't possibly, nobody can give informed consent for this, because the knowledge simply

00:23:33.020 isn't present.

00:23:33.660 And even if the knowledge was present, this is a deeply immoral thing to do anyway.

00:23:38.340 So the fact that you might be able to do it.

00:23:40.000 And so when he follows on and says, we extended the ban on prescribing them, we're now setting

00:23:44.860 up clinical trials to build the evidence base we need to support vulnerable children

00:23:48.280 properly.

00:23:49.060 It's like, well, it seems like you're taking advantage of vulnerable children.

00:23:53.460 And why are their parents consenting to this at all?

00:23:57.420 They're put in an impossible bind.

00:23:59.060 They're constantly told that if they don't agree, their children will commit suicide.

00:24:02.880 Yeah.

00:24:03.100 And that they would be absolutely horrendous people.

00:24:05.200 And then the nature of the study means that only parents who are willing to consider this

00:24:11.180 as a possibility will allow their children to participate.

00:24:15.180 Yeah.

00:24:15.960 And there are no safeguards on whether or not these children have had any other psychological

00:24:21.520 conditions that would help them study it.

00:24:24.140 So it's very much, as you say, they're assuming already that the better outcome would be liberation

00:24:33.500 from reality.

00:24:34.680 Yeah.

00:24:35.060 That the desired outcome would be for material reality not to constrain individuals in this

00:24:45.480 way and for people to be able to choose which gender they want to be. 0.99

00:24:52.160 So this is already part of their thinking.

00:24:55.780 And there is...

00:24:56.320 Can I just point out based Rupert Lowe there?

00:24:58.800 What the problem? 0.97

00:24:59.840 Ratioing him to hell. 0.99

00:25:00.880 What the NHS is doing to young kids is sick. 0.99

00:25:03.020 Yeah.

00:25:03.740 Exactly.

00:25:04.340 It's true.

00:25:05.100 Exactly.

00:25:06.300 And there is no breaking mechanism on this.

00:25:08.600 Now they want to try to plant uteruses in men to see if they can get men pregnant. 1.00

00:25:18.160 So there's no way of stopping this ideology except by going back to the basics.

00:25:26.200 But can I point out that IVF, much as we can contend the morality of it, is what has led

00:25:33.400 to this.

00:25:34.160 Because you begin experimenting outside of the womb in a lot of cases.

00:25:38.060 Yes.

00:25:38.600 And then you are basically just using toys to play around with by the end of it.

00:25:42.840 And to go back to your point on parents, this is the same generation that forces their 1.00

00:25:46.720 kids to sit in front of a TV rather than taking care of them.

00:25:49.480 So again, we're just in this disassociative mindset.

00:25:52.020 The whole thing is disassociative.

00:25:53.840 Yes.

00:25:54.260 What is this Operation Seahorse?

00:25:57.240 Say again?

00:25:58.140 This Operation Seahorse, like they try to make men... 0.71

00:26:01.540 That's the put the womb into a man. 1.00

00:26:03.780 Yeah.

00:26:04.240 Yeah.

00:26:04.680 So they have this thing about sea creatures.

00:26:07.460 I noticed mermaids is the children's charity.

00:26:10.600 And then I've got seahorses.

00:26:13.460 The seahorses make sense because male seahorses actually do just...

00:26:16.460 Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.

00:26:18.960 Mermaids have their legs cut off. 1.00

00:26:20.880 So it's a bit different, isn't it?

00:26:21.800 It's a bit weird, isn't it?

00:26:22.680 Anyway.

00:26:24.180 So it is weird.

00:26:26.780 It is disgusting.

00:26:27.740 And there is no breaking mechanism on this, except by going back to the basics about hierarchy

00:26:34.680 being good and natural, about the roles of men and women being fundamentally different,

00:26:40.680 about the sinfulness of all sexual relations outside of marriage, about the purpose of sex,

00:26:49.240 and to have a lot less tolerance for deviant sexual behavior of all kinds that we've now learned to tolerate.

00:27:00.500 Okay.

00:27:00.800 There is also a non-Catholic interpretation.

00:27:03.300 Hold on.

00:27:03.560 We can't have a situation where we say men can get married and that the roles of women 0.98

00:27:11.360 and the roles of men in society are the same without this being turned on its head.

00:27:18.420 And us being told, well, if the roles are the same, then somebody who chooses to play the role of a woman

00:27:25.200 is in fact a woman, which is what we're being told here.

00:27:28.460 How are we going from this to...

00:27:29.400 Intolerance is the way out of this.

00:27:32.240 Yes.

00:27:33.180 So there is a non-Catholic interpretation that is slightly more moderate,

00:27:38.220 which is that the material realm is deterministic in some ways.

00:27:44.300 Yes.

00:27:44.500 For example, it is determined from your point of birth that you will become a man or a woman.

00:27:49.540 And that, in fact, unchosen impositions that the universe puts upon you

00:27:54.080 are actually not themselves bad or oppressive or wrong.

00:27:57.460 And these are the normal things you need to live within.

00:27:59.680 We don't have to necessarily adopt the metaphysical positions of a staunch Catholic on that.

00:28:05.880 Now, I'm not saying that you shouldn't or anything like that.

00:28:07.420 I would argue that these positions...

00:28:09.280 I know.

00:28:09.940 ...come from observing material reality.

00:28:13.240 But the point...

00:28:14.380 Locke concedes the point that...

00:28:16.140 Sure.

00:28:16.580 ...the differences...

00:28:17.360 Without getting into that argument for the sake of time, if nothing else.

00:28:20.860 Yeah.

00:28:21.720 From a much more moderate perspective, I think that the average person can see the reality in front of their faces,

00:28:26.080 which is, actually, there is a lot in the life that is unchosen, but that still is good and valuable.

00:28:31.760 And this insane extremist experiment to try and overthrow the nature of reality's dominion over us

00:28:38.960 is not only doomed to fail, but it's going to create thousands of victims,

00:28:43.240 many of whom will die, and their lives will be unrecoverable afterwards, even if they don't.

00:28:47.480 If you say that it is an imposed reality that is good, that a child-born male will grow up to be a man,

00:28:55.760 you can then say, be a man and behave like a man.

00:29:00.420 Yes.

00:29:01.000 And that has certain implications.

00:29:02.520 Yes.

00:29:02.920 Including about sexual behavior.

00:29:04.640 Yes.

00:29:05.200 Okay.

00:29:05.700 So we're in agreement here.

00:29:06.860 Yeah, absolutely.

00:29:08.080 Yeah.

00:29:08.160 But the point is, the extremist liberals here would see this as deterministic and non-consensual

00:29:14.800 and say, well, this deeply troubles me that this is the case.

00:29:18.480 And so it's worth pointing out that most people are not in this camp and are sane.

00:29:23.620 Even if they're not particularly religious, they still have a commonsensical view of the world. 0.95

00:29:30.080 So the point is, the government is mental. 0.98

00:29:32.880 Yes. 1.00

00:29:33.080 And it's run by mental people. 0.97

00:29:34.680 We can agree on that.

00:29:35.400 Who hold absolutely extreme views that people just don't agree with.

00:29:39.800 Anyway, we've got loads of super chats on this subject, as you can imagine.

00:29:42.700 All right.

00:29:44.020 JM says, the moral paradigm that prioritizes harm reduction is the top concern.

00:29:48.480 Mill, Bentham, et cetera, logically leads to extinction.

00:29:51.080 Antinatalism.

00:29:51.620 Each additional human life will result in some degree of harm.

00:29:54.900 Well, again, you can take anything to a logical conclusion that is extreme.

00:29:58.260 I mean, I'm against utilitarianism for lots of reasons, but the point of extremity on it isn't really it.

00:30:05.400 There are other reasons.

00:30:06.600 Only atheists believe in the madness. 0.98

00:30:08.840 That's the new framework.

00:30:10.880 They are.

00:30:11.720 The thing is, they can't really just call themselves materialists because their own philosophy does presuppose the kind of existence of something they would have to call a soul.

00:30:20.020 Yes.

00:30:20.560 Otherwise, you can't be born in the wrong way.

00:30:21.940 But they call it gender identity.

00:30:23.160 In fact, the very separation of the brain from the body is a thing that really we should be interrogating them on.

00:30:30.600 It's like, well, where is the consciousness?

00:30:32.180 If you are the liberal you claim you are, I mean, I am a materialist, right?

00:30:37.100 I'm born and raised in a materialist society.

00:30:39.340 So I'm under the impression that my consciousness is a phenomenon of my brain, right?

00:30:44.080 So my consciousness does not precede my brain.

00:30:46.460 It is subsequent of it.

00:30:48.120 And so there's no separation between brain and body, mind and body.

00:30:53.220 The mind is actually a product of the body, in my opinion, because I'm a materialist.

00:30:57.280 If they're not, they need to explain themselves on that.

00:30:59.780 I mean, the overwhelming amount of materialists do not agree with gender ideology.

00:31:04.740 Well, yeah, most people don't.

00:31:06.180 Yeah, that's mostly top-down enforcement.

00:31:08.420 Yeah, there's a second point, though, which, you know, Firas, your position earlier was taking something to its logical other extreme.

00:31:14.640 But I think the reality is the reason why extremes are coming out of this is because there's so much confusion in the middle.

00:31:19.720 There's no definition anymore.

00:31:21.060 Like, a lot of this is just linguistic.

00:31:22.680 Like, the marriage argument, as an example, I have no opposition to people doing what they want to do in their own houses, in their own time.

00:31:31.080 If you want to be in a gay relationship, so be it. 0.98

00:31:33.660 But the word marriage fundamentally comes from the root of motherhood.

00:31:37.700 It's actually an attack on motherhood.

00:31:39.200 It's nothing to do with the relationship between two people.

00:31:41.980 And so if we get back to definitions, all of this stuff starts to fall apart.

00:31:45.820 That's actually a really important point as well.

00:31:47.580 The very purpose is about the children, actually, not the two people.

00:31:51.560 Yeah, it's literally motherhood.

00:31:54.260 Yeah, but exactly.

00:31:55.240 It's literally about mothers.

00:31:56.840 So a non-procreative marriage is basically a vanity project.

00:32:02.520 Well, it can't be a marriage.

00:32:03.400 It can be something else.

00:32:04.280 You can have a different term.

00:32:05.400 Maybe it didn't work.

00:32:06.980 Sure, sure.

00:32:07.520 And, you know, like, if you've got a man and a woman that get married expecting to have children and actually one of them is infertile, well, that's unfortunate. 0.99

00:32:14.440 They still get married to that purpose, though.

00:32:16.240 Exactly.

00:32:16.720 The purpose is still the same, right?

00:32:18.240 But that's obviously not the case in same-sex couplings.

00:32:21.060 Anyway, the madness will not end...

00:32:23.860 Oh, sorry.

00:32:24.260 Base Ape says,

00:32:25.020 These people are actualists.

00:32:25.960 They believe that we make up reality in our minds.

00:32:30.000 They need to be told that they are not God.

00:32:32.300 Well, good luck with that.

00:32:34.300 The madness will not end up anytime soon because the damage has already been done over decades.

00:32:38.640 If they reverse course, it's an admission of fault or guilt.

00:32:41.500 And also, you're absolutely correct, but they just don't believe it.

00:32:44.660 They just don't believe that they're doing wrong.

00:32:46.720 No.

00:32:46.900 They genuinely believe they're doing right.

00:32:48.000 They believe they're liberating people.

00:32:49.700 Yeah, they genuinely think they're liberating people from the oppressive shackles of reality.

00:32:54.700 Melissa says,

00:32:55.320 This experiment is just evil, which is completely correct.

00:32:58.520 Flavius says, 0.98

00:32:59.180 These people are sick freaks that need to cancel to normalcy. 0.99

00:33:03.520 Caned to normalcy. 1.00

00:33:04.460 Oh, sorry.

00:33:05.480 I'm at an angle.

00:33:06.680 So, it came to normalcy.

00:33:08.780 And Cranky Texan says,

00:33:10.620 That they have co-opted and redefined the language of sex and gender gives them power. 0.93

00:33:13.980 Otherwise, we would just call it what it is, medical experimentation and mutilation.

00:33:18.060 Because that is what it is.

00:33:20.320 Anyway, on that dour note, let's go to a slightly more exciting subject.

00:33:26.400 When I say exciting, a slightly more entertaining subject, which is Elon Musk's big reveal.

00:33:34.300 I think we should start the segment after we have.

00:33:37.800 Great.

00:33:38.280 Okay.

00:33:39.420 We're going to talk about Elon Musk's big reveal.

00:33:42.960 I think a good relationship is founded on sincerity.

00:33:46.960 And this is what the mainstream media have done.

00:33:52.140 And many of us are very suspicious of them.

00:33:56.200 And now we have alternative media and new media.

00:33:59.440 And we constantly try to find better sources of information.

00:34:04.200 And give you good and credible sources.

00:34:09.240 And talk to you about what it is that is going on in the world.

00:34:13.080 And one of the good things is that on X, we had a series of revelations of the origins of particular accounts.

00:34:23.020 And I want to get out with the political dimension of it really quickly and move on to the fun stuff.

00:34:29.340 And say that it is absolutely certain that there are psyopsis on X.

00:34:36.360 Lots of critics of liberal democracies are saying that other regimes are planning for decades ahead.

00:34:46.240 This means that they aren't going to leave X unturned.

00:34:50.440 They're going to leave no stone unturned.

00:34:52.860 They're going to infiltrate X.

00:34:54.380 They're going to infiltrate all sorts of media.

00:34:56.680 So people should be very mindful of who they're listening to.

00:35:00.220 I mean, Elon Musk had to fight with armies of Chinese bot farms when he first took over Twitter, right?

00:35:04.980 Yeah, but it ended up, right now, as I'll show you in a meme, it wasn't so much Russia and China.

00:35:11.100 It was mostly Nigeria and Bangladesh, right? 0.97

00:35:14.220 Okay.

00:35:14.820 Okay, so up till now, we had very few revelations.

00:35:20.260 And I will give you my favorite Cambodian.

00:35:22.280 It's from Radio Genoa. 0.99

00:35:23.800 This is one of those accounts that is, I mean, complete shit posting. 0.99

00:35:29.140 Pardon me for the word. 1.00

00:35:29.860 Slop posting.

00:35:30.660 For the word, but it's so good at it that you can't tell him to stop.

00:35:35.040 It's like telling Einstein to stop doing physics.

00:35:38.840 So we had this kind of revelation, but now we have endless revelations.

00:35:44.300 So go out on X and look at the origin of accounts.

00:35:48.640 Let us have some fun.

00:35:53.440 Not with that, though.

00:35:54.340 Yep, no, that will.

00:36:02.480 Right, so this is a meme with Homer Simpson in a bar, realizing that people around me are not like me.

00:36:12.460 I thought they were, but they're not.

00:36:13.780 And this is the most representative one, although not a particularly big account.

00:36:20.080 Just at American. 0.54

00:36:21.040 It says American, at American, very aggressive eagle here, the U.S. flag before, based in South Asia, connected by South Asia App Store.

00:36:32.520 See, it's the connecting via the App Store that really matters, right?

00:36:35.800 Yeah, because you've got VPNs.

00:36:36.980 Exactly, you've got VPNs, or you could be traveling, right?

00:36:39.620 But even when you're traveling, I'm still going on the U.K. App Store, because that's what my phone is configured to.

00:36:46.200 So you've got the dual way of checking and confirming there.

00:36:50.140 You mentioned VPN.

00:36:51.620 Yep.

00:36:52.180 And it's not accidental.

00:36:53.440 People right now in VPN companies are having a really good time.

00:36:57.700 We have this from the Scarface, this meme.

00:37:01.560 People are buying VPNs to hide their...

00:37:04.620 Inevitable West buying his VPN.

00:37:07.420 We will talk about this, man.

00:37:09.060 We will talk about this, man.

00:37:11.040 Just easy West.

00:37:12.440 Hope Not Hate, based in the U.S.

00:37:15.040 Definitely VPN, because the United Kingdom is connected, yeah.

00:37:18.140 Connected via UK App Store.

00:37:22.060 American here, right?

00:37:23.920 We had an account called Epic Maps.

00:37:29.100 Oh, I like maps.

00:37:30.640 Occasionally, it's fun, because also, I love maps.

00:37:33.040 Yeah.

00:37:33.540 And it says here, countries with the most handsome men, 20, 25.

00:37:37.460 How?

00:37:37.880 Who decided this?

00:37:38.900 Number one, they have India, two, United States, three, Sweden, Japan, Canada, Brazil, France, Italy, Ukraine, Denmark, etc.

00:37:46.320 But do you have an idea where this account is from?

00:37:49.640 You know what?

00:37:50.660 Why is Switzerland number 50?

00:37:52.440 Does Russia not even make the list?

00:37:53.740 I mean, it can't be used to being a Russian bomb.

00:37:55.420 Let's check where they are from.

00:37:59.120 Shall we?

00:37:59.700 Epic Maps.

00:38:02.200 Join December 2020.

00:38:04.260 Oh, no kidding.

00:38:05.020 Based in South Asia.

00:38:06.760 South Asia Android App.

00:38:07.380 Connected by South Asia Android App.

00:38:10.360 We've predicted this.

00:38:11.860 Now, we come to a distinct category of posting.

00:38:16.360 Frequently, they have really hilarious replies, but I don't know about that.

00:38:21.040 And I think it's people, women saying how hot they are and how much they're searching for a partner.

00:38:30.220 Catfishing.

00:38:31.140 Yeah, catfishing.

00:38:32.040 Catfishing accounts.

00:38:32.920 It's just so badly done.

00:38:34.680 I've got to say, like, they always have, like, two followers and they've, you know.

00:38:38.600 No, no, no.

00:38:38.840 I mean, look at this picture.

00:38:40.520 There is no way that isn't AI generated.

00:38:42.460 She has 84K.

00:38:43.700 Oh, wow.

00:38:43.720 Okay.

00:38:44.180 All right.

00:38:44.640 Right.

00:38:44.960 She must be busy buying followers.

00:38:46.180 Look how smooth that picture is.

00:38:50.120 Sanya Obaid.

00:38:51.840 Love.

00:38:52.680 I'm single from the US.

00:38:54.560 I'm about 25 years old.

00:38:56.240 And this year, I hope you like my pics.

00:38:58.340 You know what?

00:38:58.820 It doesn't have a birth certificate, so that's worrying.

00:39:00.940 There's a lot of me.

00:39:01.700 A side of me that's like, you know what?

00:39:03.260 We're hating the players and not the game here, right?

00:39:07.320 Like, if you're some guy in Pakistan, you're in some rural village, and you've managed to

00:39:11.140 get a smartphone, and now you have access to the internet, you're like, I'm going to

00:39:14.340 make a lot of money. 0.80

00:39:14.940 You're going to make unlimited hot women on croc. 1.00

00:39:17.020 Exactly.

00:39:17.840 And there are millions of Indian simps who are going to send me their rupees, right? 0.96

00:39:21.920 Yeah.

00:39:22.120 So, actually, I'm going to make out like a bandit here, and my family are going to buy

00:39:28.580 a nice big house.

00:39:29.300 I'm just saying, you know.

00:39:31.760 Account based in Pakistan, connected via Pakistan Android app.

00:39:37.320 Move forward.

00:39:38.640 Again, this is Anna B. Alive, the same thing.

00:39:42.260 She's connected via web.

00:39:44.040 Yeah.

00:39:44.720 Account based in Pakistan.

00:39:47.880 Right.

00:39:48.280 We had also proud Democrat, professional MAGA hunter, Ron Smith.

00:39:53.660 Account based in Kenya, and the account got nuked.

00:39:57.060 So, he had like 50,000, 60,000 followers or something.

00:40:01.040 This is something that I've seen the left-wing media reporting on.

00:40:04.720 Oh, all these MAGA accounts are actually foreign interlopers.

00:40:07.940 Well, yeah, but a load of Democrat ones are too.

00:40:10.360 Everyone was Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi.

00:40:13.760 That's who we are arguing with on air.

00:40:16.060 Is he supporting the Democrats because of Obama?

00:40:18.580 No, no.

00:40:19.080 His association with Kenya?

00:40:20.400 Who knows?

00:40:20.860 Maybe it is Obama.

00:40:21.680 Yeah, me.

00:40:24.460 Magascope here at Magascope.

00:40:26.880 Prince Maga.

00:40:28.500 Account based in Nigeria.

00:40:30.520 Connected by Nigeria.

00:40:31.260 I'm playing both sides.

00:40:32.620 This is where I come out on top.

00:40:34.520 Right.

00:40:37.140 R4, Tau Crate.

00:40:38.480 English is not an ethnicity.

00:40:40.720 As Carl points out, account based in Hong Kong.

00:40:44.860 It's a mess.

00:40:45.600 Saying that Hong Kong isn't part of Britain, Carl?

00:40:47.540 Well, that's what he's saying.

00:40:48.440 We gave it back, unfortunately.

00:40:51.460 Also, Jackson Hinkle, who had an audience growth that I don't consider organic.

00:40:58.440 He went from 400K to 3 million, roughly.

00:41:02.160 After starting today, a really hot Russian spy, yeah.

00:41:05.180 A few months, also touring the Middle East.

00:41:08.240 Crazy how the Yemen. 1.00

00:41:09.740 To Yemen as well.

00:41:10.720 He went to Yemen to support the Houthi in Yemen.

00:41:13.120 Just as a sort of pause here. 0.51

00:41:14.880 But I can't express to you how insane you have to be to support the Houthi in Yemen.

00:41:22.680 And I'll just leave it there. 0.57

00:41:26.440 Hassan Piker called out.

00:41:27.860 Well, account based in Burkina Faso.

00:41:31.740 As Carl says here, I didn't even know they had internet there.

00:41:34.360 But account connected via the US.

00:41:37.340 And also, he's also traveling.

00:41:39.440 But he was funny to Burkina Faso.

00:41:42.400 And he didn't know they had internet there.

00:41:45.300 Right.

00:41:46.220 Let's move on.

00:41:47.100 Vladimir Putin news.

00:41:50.700 Based in Pakistan.

00:41:52.460 Connected via Pakistan.

00:41:54.120 Afstor. 0.57

00:41:55.660 Again, this is what I mean about hating the players and not the game, right?

00:41:59.480 Because I bet none of these guys are really particularly invested in any of this that's happening.

00:42:03.880 They're just like, you know what?

00:42:04.920 I'm a hardworking young man.

00:42:06.420 I've got access to earn some money here.

00:42:08.560 I'm going to get on.

00:42:09.840 This is just good work.

00:42:11.580 There's something that you're missing there.

00:42:12.700 There's a little something that you're missing there.

00:42:15.540 In Lebanon, to my chagrin, fights actually break out every World Cup between the fans of Germany and Brazil.

00:42:25.900 The Lebanese fans of Germany and Brazil.

00:42:27.940 Yes.

00:42:28.440 Right.

00:42:29.280 And the Shia support Brazil and the Sunni support Germany. 0.97

00:42:33.080 So it's a proxy war.

00:42:34.200 So it becomes a proxy war.

00:42:35.480 So you see this kind of weirdness in ways that you don't have a mental map of.

00:42:40.300 That's true.

00:42:40.960 I don't have a mental map of this.

00:42:42.920 That's all I'll say about the subject.

00:42:45.660 And it gets quite hilarious.

00:42:48.440 But yeah.

00:42:49.400 Please.

00:42:50.320 Right.

00:42:50.720 Here we have Make Europe Great Again, account based in South Asia, connected by South Asia Android app.

00:42:58.980 At least we can all agree with the sentiment, right?

00:43:01.140 Like, you know, from an abstract disinterested observer from South Asia.

00:43:05.100 He's like, you know, Europe used to be great.

00:43:06.340 It should be made great.

00:43:07.040 But it's really hilarious.

00:43:08.500 And that's why I started with Radio Genoa.

00:43:10.500 It's like one post is going to be, Italy has fallen.

00:43:14.740 And then the next post is going to be the Colosseum with the gladiator music saying, remember who we are.

00:43:20.960 We're Cambodians.

00:43:22.020 Also, what you said before, it's like the relationship we have with gossip and people who gossip.

00:43:26.760 Everyone loves gossip, but they distrust people who gossip.

00:43:29.740 No one likes gossipers, do they?

00:43:31.120 Yeah, but they love gossip.

00:43:33.060 Because they love the game, but not the players.

00:43:35.920 Name of the game.

00:43:37.700 Right here.

00:43:38.460 So we have IDF babes being Nigerian dudes. 0.89

00:43:43.660 This was the funniest sign up in the world.

00:43:46.160 It's most affected, right?

00:43:50.060 Yeah, it really is.

00:43:51.320 But it's also like, yeah, guys, join the army.

00:43:53.480 There's a bunch of models who'll be in the trenches with you. 0.99

00:43:55.860 You'll find your girl there.

00:43:57.400 It's like, no, obviously.

00:44:00.360 Shira Shea Rivka, she said proudly, Israeli and conflict and war.

00:44:05.440 IDF soldier in the account based in Nigeria, connected by Nigeria.

00:44:09.000 Just on foreign deployments, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:44:11.880 The one thing I've never understood is, despite the fact that this is thousands of people,

00:44:16.280 the way they express their account profile, their bio and their messaging is always identical.

00:44:21.420 Always identical.

00:44:22.760 There's different words, so it's clearly different people.

00:44:24.760 But they have this lexicon that we just don't understand.

00:44:27.940 Israel army, based in South Asia.

00:44:31.000 It does say Israel army spoof, though.

00:44:32.580 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:33.140 It's right, isn't it?

00:44:34.160 But yeah, but obviously based in South Asia.

00:44:36.340 Yeah.

00:44:37.020 But it's the army section now.

00:44:39.460 Yeah.

00:44:39.840 Right?

00:44:41.120 Russian army.

00:44:42.200 Again, Russian army spoof, based in India.

00:44:45.540 Okay.

00:44:46.100 These people have got nothing bad to do with their day, do they?

00:44:50.220 Torah Judaism, based in Philippines, connected via web.

00:44:55.920 I'm sure there's a Jewish diaspora in the Philippines.

00:44:58.040 I mean...

00:44:58.220 It's my response to what Carl said before.

00:45:01.840 There was this meme, Chinese and Russian bots poking the US. 0.51

00:45:06.220 Come on, do a civil war.

00:45:07.360 Another declaration of memes says, turns out it was actually Bangladesh and Nigeria.

00:45:13.800 Right.

00:45:14.700 You know, I think I know why they have that particular lexicon, right?

00:45:19.460 And I think it is due to not being native speakers of the language and not being native

00:45:23.760 livers of the political lives that we are, right?

00:45:26.940 If you, like, if I were to, like, do something in French, I wouldn't be able to innovate on

00:45:33.020 what already exists.

00:45:33.780 I'd only be able to literally, like, chat GPT.

00:45:35.640 So they're basically, like, LLMs, right?

00:45:37.600 They can only rehash those things.

00:45:40.780 Even with the advent of AI, where they could just say, how would a sexy European lady talk? 1.00

00:45:46.640 They can't even type that in.

00:45:48.800 I mean, chat GPT is 20 quid a month, man.

00:45:51.100 I mean...

00:45:51.420 Yeah, exactly.

00:45:51.940 Right.

00:45:52.600 So they say here, this America First account based in Bangladesh, but do check where they're

00:45:58.180 connecting from.

00:45:59.520 All of that, take that with a pinch of salt.

00:46:02.160 That's the message of the day.

00:46:03.740 So war hamster here, based in United Arab Emirates. 0.99

00:46:09.720 They say that they purport to be from the US, but their account is based in the UAE.

00:46:15.240 In fairness, there's a lot of Americans in the UAE.

00:46:19.120 There are.

00:46:19.880 What app store are they connecting by?

00:46:22.460 That's the question.

00:46:23.320 Depends on which number they're using. 1.00

00:46:25.020 If they're stupid enough to use their Emirati number, then, you know, it's a problem. 1.00

00:46:32.520 That is true. 1.00

00:46:33.780 Right.

00:46:34.120 We have Native American culture talking about in the smoke of ancient pipes, our ancestors

00:46:41.340 whispered to the winds from the northern lakes where the eagle soars to the southern rivers

00:46:47.140 where the jaguar prowls.

00:46:48.560 This red earth has always been our heartbeat.

00:46:52.380 It's all native land.

00:46:54.400 Turns out it's an account based in Bangladesh.

00:46:57.620 Hating the player, not the game.

00:46:58.960 Like, this is a solid t-shirt pitch.

00:47:01.920 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:47:03.120 Let's go grab those teams. 1.00

00:47:04.160 They clearly use Grok.

00:47:05.060 You've got that.

00:47:06.360 Right.

00:47:06.940 Okay.

00:47:07.160 So we have this account that was talking constantly about Japan, colonel otaku gatekeeper talking

00:47:16.240 about Japan.

00:47:17.000 Weebs most affected based in Europe, connected by a European Android app.

00:47:24.440 And now we're moving to, I think, my favorite revelation.

00:47:28.120 We have a conscious philosopher who was saying in the American Civil War, confederates were

00:47:33.180 the good guys.

00:47:34.460 I say author is Serbian.

00:47:36.760 But what was interesting is that, contrary to others, he accepted it.

00:47:41.780 He owned it.

00:47:43.240 And he started going full Serbian. 0.55

00:47:45.340 And let me just show you.

00:47:47.240 Here it says, love Serbia.

00:47:49.520 And here he says, since I've gotten a lot of Serbian followers since telling everyone I'm a Serb for God knows

00:47:56.760 which time I wanted to tell you something in Serbian.

00:48:00.160 And he says something in Serbian.

00:48:02.500 But at least he owned it.

00:48:04.080 I want to know.

00:48:04.460 At least he owned it.

00:48:05.200 Yeah.

00:48:05.520 Okay.

00:48:05.820 Let's see.

00:48:06.260 Show us the translation.

00:48:07.360 This is going to be hilarious.

00:48:11.040 I would ask you before you start cursing me, threatening me, if you care about the truth, ask me to clarify whatever is

00:48:16.160 bothering you or unclear to you, because I know that a lot of lies have been circulating about me for years already.

00:48:21.340 Long live Serbia. 1.00

00:48:22.360 Yeah.

00:48:23.540 Okay.

00:48:23.940 We have Gavin Newsom-Groyper, one of the Burberry nationalism defenders.

00:48:30.820 Based in Nicaragua.

00:48:32.020 Also connected by US App Store.

00:48:34.340 So illegal immigrant. 1.00

00:48:35.100 I like to think that he's from Nicaragua.

00:48:37.380 Literally illegal immigrant. 0.99

00:48:37.920 Right.

00:48:39.380 Ivanka Trump News, based in Nigeria, connected by a Nigeria App Store.

00:48:44.480 If it helps, that's probably authentic veneration.

00:48:47.540 Yeah.

00:48:47.720 Right.

00:48:48.140 They do like Ivanka Trump out there. 0.99

00:48:51.060 Right.

00:48:51.360 And the question remains, where is Inevitable West from?

00:48:58.640 It says-

00:48:59.440 Connected by the United Kingdom App Store.

00:49:00.320 Connected by UK App Store.

00:49:02.260 My belief is that that's true.

00:49:04.220 Yeah.

00:49:04.520 You know, though, have you watched Catch Me If You Can with Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks?

00:49:09.400 It feels like right now, all of the online rights is at the Tom Hanks position.

00:49:17.260 Try to catch-

00:49:18.360 I'd imagine at this level of account, there's probably someone in the UK being asked to log

00:49:22.460 in purely to help the account.

00:49:24.460 But it's funny.

00:49:25.540 We have two million Indians in this country.

00:49:28.180 That's also true.

00:49:29.360 So the question remains-

00:49:30.100 He's not out of the woods yet.

00:49:31.480 The question remains, Inevitable West.

00:49:33.780 Where are you from?

00:49:35.300 Where are you from?

00:49:36.680 Where are you really from?

00:49:37.700 Yeah.

00:49:41.220 Excellent.

00:49:42.320 Hilarious stuff.

00:49:44.320 Remember that Kenya has a lot of Indians there, so the guy from Kenya might still be Indian.

00:49:49.140 What's the same with Inevitable West?

00:49:51.960 Sar Sar, Nick Fuentes' base, Sar.

00:49:53.780 I can't imagine why everyone that actually wants MAGA torn apart would push Operation Fuentes

00:49:58.420 to unravel everything and get their USAID H-1B grift back.

00:50:03.800 And we have to make Elon's statue digger now?

00:50:07.500 Bigger, I think it means, yeah.

00:50:09.400 50 to 55 feet with silver eyes.

00:50:11.100 He earned that much.

00:50:12.140 Yeah, I know.

00:50:12.800 It's genuinely fun.

00:50:14.200 Genuinely fun.

00:50:14.900 Remember when Jussie Smollet allegedly got battered by Nigerians who shouted,

00:50:19.720 this is MAGA country?

00:50:20.780 It's coming full circle.

00:50:22.300 Man, that is crazy, actually.

00:50:23.380 I didn't even make that connection.

00:50:24.940 Good point.

00:50:26.920 Anyway, let's go on to the final thing that we're going to talk about today.

00:50:30.820 Because I've had enough of stay-at-home mums. 1.00

00:50:34.000 I've decided they have it too easy, their lives are too simple, everything is just too straightforward,

00:50:39.820 and it's not actually a job title, as you can see from the BBC, which we will read from

00:50:45.400 at length because they're determined to make this a thing.

00:50:48.880 Many women returning to the workforce after having children say they face a challenging

00:50:53.500 welcome back.

00:50:54.700 Professional networking site LinkedIn recently added a new feature allowing parents to use

00:50:58.420 stay-at-home mom or stay-at-home dad as a job title.

00:51:01.240 Will it make a difference?

00:51:02.600 In January 2020, after more than a decade raising her two young children, Heather Boland was

00:51:07.600 ready to rejoin the workforce.

00:51:09.740 On her resume, it was a master's degree in her record of a successful corporate career

00:51:13.940 at Starbucks, but for the past 11 years, excuse me, she's been a full-time parent,

00:51:20.260 not a title recognized by most recruiters.

00:51:22.800 And so this, of course, was a real problem for her.

00:51:24.740 She says, I hit a wall immediately.

00:51:26.200 And this 11 years at home has been tough for her to get back into the corporate world

00:51:32.280 after, I assume, her children have matured to an age where she can get a job now. 0.59

00:51:35.580 And this is an implicit bias against women. 1.00

00:51:38.700 Is it?

00:51:39.180 Yeah, it is. 0.97

00:51:40.060 What's so silly about this? 0.88

00:51:41.440 We had babies. 0.98

00:51:42.640 And as she says, this is an implicit bias against women. 0.74

00:51:45.800 And you get lots of articles like this.

00:51:48.020 This is from a Lunar Mag.

00:51:49.980 I've never even heard of these before I found, before I started researching this article.

00:51:53.180 Um, but, uh, they were meeting Anna, a PhD scientist turned stay-at-home mom, from career

00:51:59.400 woman to stay-at-home mom, a position she really does not enjoy, a topic that's often

00:52:04.020 untalked about.

00:52:05.620 And so Anna tells us this, quote,

00:52:07.120 My brain feels like jelly.

00:52:09.040 I miss my job terribly, but I love my crazy children and they're constant talking.

00:52:12.660 Yet I am on constant and complete brain overload.

00:52:15.560 I, like I felt, like I never felt before.

00:52:17.940 So I miss having something else to focus on.

00:52:19.700 I miss feeling rewarded for my work.

00:52:22.040 Now I get shouted at because I'm not perfect and I never get a thank you from the children.

00:52:25.840 I constantly say the same things every single day, but no one ever listens.

00:52:28.840 And I, I, I, I just, I mean, lately even my husband is doing it.

00:52:34.200 So we'll get to this.

00:52:35.460 I, I, I'm setting this up.

00:52:36.780 Trust me.

00:52:37.580 I used to be so efficient.

00:52:38.800 As a scientist by training, I didn't have much of a choice, but I'm finding that since

00:52:42.420 becoming a full-time mom, my time seems to be much more of a warp all day long.

00:52:46.320 I never seem to stop, I never seem to stop still, yet somehow the day goes by and I have

00:52:50.540 no clue what I've done all day.

00:52:52.300 And somehow I'm also much more tired than when I did have a full-time job.

00:52:55.480 My husband comes home and wants to chat about his day and I'm like, can we just sit here

00:52:59.520 in silence, please?

00:53:00.760 And so that's a big sell.

00:53:04.100 So it's, hang on.

00:53:05.400 It's tough being a stay-at-home mom, according to the stay-at-home moms.

00:53:09.000 So I say, let's hear from the stay-at-home dads and see what they think about it because

00:53:13.420 they're not impressed.

00:53:14.940 If we can get this to the beginning, just thank you.

00:53:21.740 I feel like you're lying.

00:53:23.120 Because of what I get to do for work, I can still stay home and pay all the bills and

00:53:27.280 my wife will have to go to work to make her money. 1.00

00:53:29.940 And I have a one-year-old daughter, so I'll stay at home and I'll take care of my daughter.

00:53:34.820 And while I'm taking care of my one-year-old daughter, I can give her three meals a day,

00:53:40.180 change her on time, get her and do her naps, play time, arts and crafts time, and still 0.99

00:53:46.740 make sure the entire place is clean.

00:53:48.920 And I can clean the whole apartment while watching her before 12 or 1 o'clock.

00:53:54.980 And yes, I know an apartment is different than a home, but I have a 2,300 square foot

00:53:58.540 apartment, so it's not tiny.

00:54:00.260 But I do know that I can just be ignorant to a lot of people's situations.

00:54:03.860 So can someone please tell me when does being a stay-at-home mom become hard?

00:54:09.800 Right.

00:54:10.580 I mean, you can imagine how that went down with stay-at-home moms on the internet. 0.68

00:54:13.800 Can we see the comments?

00:54:15.520 We can.

00:54:17.400 So, obviously, I'm being very sarcastic with this segment because this is obviously...

00:54:25.300 I mean, what I love most about this is this guy being like, I've got a one-year-old daughter

00:54:28.640 and it's no problem for me.

00:54:29.800 It's like, yeah, because she can't walk.

00:54:32.400 She can't, like... 1.00

00:54:35.400 She can't destroy as much as a two-year-old.

00:54:38.220 My apartment's tidy all day.

00:54:40.280 Oh, bro.

00:54:41.160 You know, it's not going to stay that way.

00:54:44.400 Some of the comments on this have been...

00:54:46.220 Yeah, there is.

00:54:47.100 And we'll go through some.

00:54:48.100 I mean, there's this one by a guy that was just brilliant.

00:54:50.880 My wife's a stay-at-home mom of two kids.

00:54:52.720 One just started school and the other is a feral toddler.

00:54:55.120 You're on easy mode right now, champ.

00:54:56.940 Update us when you have a kid that can move more and has malice in their heart.

00:55:01.740 And...

00:55:01.900 Yes.

00:55:03.040 It is malice against the tidy house that both of my, well, four and, well, nearly five

00:55:10.280 and three-year-olds have.

00:55:12.280 And, yeah, so I figure what we do is we go back to the beginning and actually go through

00:55:17.080 this in a sympathetic way.

00:55:19.000 Because, actually, I do totally agree that stay-at-home parent is a full-time job title.

00:55:25.000 And, actually, especially a stay-at-home mom when you're on your own and your husband's

00:55:30.580 out of work, this is actually not just a sort of domestic duty, but, actually, you gain

00:55:37.620 a suite of skills that you basically don't get in the workplace.

00:55:42.520 Because the workplace is a lot more structured and there are a lot more rules about how you

00:55:46.580 interact in the workplace.

00:55:48.120 And so, actually, being a stay-at-home mom gives you incredible administrative skills 0.89

00:55:52.760 and managerial skills.

00:55:54.640 And this is something I've witnessed in my own life with my own wife.

00:55:57.760 If I need something actually done, like, you know, bills sorted out or something like

00:56:02.820 this, I'm actually really bad at it.

00:56:04.920 Yes.

00:56:05.340 Because I actually don't tend to develop the skills to, you know, interface with all of

00:56:09.260 these things.

00:56:10.080 And my wife just gets these things done like that and I'm like, oh my god. 1.00

00:56:12.680 Like, if it wasn't for her, I would be, you know, deep in, I would lose papers, I would

00:56:18.040 lose, you know, if it wasn't for her doing all these things.

00:56:20.400 And then, at the same time, managing my two incredibly rambunctious children, this is

00:56:25.800 an unpredictable environment.

00:56:28.440 And what actually being a stay-at-home mom does is teaches you how to manage an unpredictable

00:56:34.040 environment, which is actually a really useful skill that a lot of people don't develop because

00:56:38.660 the workplaces we're in.

00:56:40.560 And as this other woman here was saying, the workplace was so straightforward.

00:56:44.240 It was so logical.

00:56:46.460 You know, everyone was an adult there.

00:56:47.680 Everyone knew the rules and everyone followed the rules.

00:56:49.400 And so, why is my life crazy now?

00:56:53.280 And it's because actually you're doing something completely different and you're gaining a

00:56:56.740 different suite of skills altogether.

00:56:58.520 Let me put it to you this way.

00:57:00.480 It's quite difficult when they're very noisy and they're running around the house and doing

00:57:05.140 crazy things.

00:57:05.920 God.

00:57:06.840 It's much worse when you notice that it's been 10 minutes of quiet.

00:57:11.300 Yes.

00:57:12.000 And that means that there is a disaster that you just haven't discovered yet.

00:57:16.040 Yes.

00:57:16.340 So, the hard bit is that the noise can, you know, all of a sudden you hear a very loud

00:57:24.160 bang and you know one of them has fallen and possibly hurt themselves and you have to

00:57:26.800 run for it.

00:57:27.340 You hear the screaming afterwards.

00:57:28.520 Exactly.

00:57:29.660 Even worse if you don't.

00:57:30.900 Yes.

00:57:31.120 And then there is, because my son, when he was young, he would stop breathing for a minute

00:57:40.640 when he started crying.

00:57:41.720 Oh, yeah.

00:57:42.260 Which is petrifying.

00:57:44.720 Petrifying.

00:57:45.280 Absolutely petrifying.

00:57:46.220 Um, but then when they're quiet and then you go and check on them, there's a 10% chance

00:57:54.120 that they're just reading.

00:57:56.040 There's a 90% chance that they're doing something that they absolutely should not be doing and

00:58:00.620 that's why they're being quiet.

00:58:01.600 Marvelous work of art on the wall with the crayons, for example.

00:58:04.180 There you go.

00:58:04.740 Yeah.

00:58:05.260 Uh, that's the least of it.

00:58:06.840 That's the least of it.

00:58:07.700 Because they, they used to really enjoy playing with the water in the bathroom.

00:58:14.240 Oh, I bet they did.

00:58:15.120 Which would flood the house.

00:58:16.300 Of course it would.

00:58:17.780 And so it's, it's, it's the fact that the silences and the quiet times are just as scary

00:58:23.040 as the noisy times.

00:58:24.020 And it's, it's because they, they play with their toys all day, every day.

00:58:26.700 And so the toys, they're noisy, you know, they throw them around, they don't care.

00:58:30.220 Exactly.

00:58:30.600 But when they've discovered something they shouldn't have access to.

00:58:33.340 Yes.

00:58:33.740 Suddenly their entire attention is focused on that thing.

00:58:36.280 Yes.

00:58:36.920 Yes.

00:58:37.540 And they are artists at discovering the stuff that they really shouldn't be doing.

00:58:42.860 Yes.

00:58:43.260 And then doing it.

00:58:44.260 Yes.

00:58:44.620 And they're really brilliant at it.

00:58:46.880 Yes.

00:58:47.780 Um.

00:58:48.700 And so I, I do particularly love this guy.

00:58:50.780 Well, this is so easy.

00:58:51.780 Yeah.

00:58:51.880 A one-year-old can't really do any of this.

00:58:53.740 None of the damage.

00:58:54.880 Uh, and, but not only.

00:58:56.080 None of the actual damage.

00:58:56.920 Not only that, there's the stress of it as well.

00:58:58.760 Right.

00:58:59.040 So, um, for example, my two, sometimes they'll just have screaming competitions. 0.91

00:59:04.040 Right.

00:59:04.400 Where they're running around and they start screaming.

00:59:06.280 And then the other one's like, oh, I can scream louder than that.

00:59:08.120 Yes.

00:59:08.520 And if I walk in the door, I can just see in my wife's face, she's like, can I have some quiet?

00:59:13.000 Yeah.

00:59:13.200 Yes, you can, darling.

00:59:14.320 You know, you can go just sit in the bedroom where it's, there's no screaming children for, for an hour if you want.

00:59:19.640 You know, I'm happy to, you know, I'm happy to deal with them or whatever.

00:59:22.160 Uh, and I promise I am, darling.

00:59:23.720 Trust me, you might seem impatient sometimes.

00:59:26.240 Um, and so this, but this, this whole thing, uh, teaches patience, right?

00:59:31.580 It's a, it's a, it's a sort of, and, and I, I love this as well.

00:59:34.480 It's like, what do you mean?

00:59:35.220 I get the house done by, by 12 and then it's orderly for the rest of the day.

00:59:38.860 It's like, it is an entire, eternal struggle against chaos.

00:59:43.240 Yeah.

00:59:43.340 So house chores are very time consuming.

00:59:46.520 They can be.

00:59:47.120 We may not like seeing it sometimes, but they, but many of them are.

00:59:52.320 Yeah.

00:59:52.660 But it's, the thing is, you don't have children yet, do you?

00:59:55.880 Not yet.

00:59:57.040 Oh my God, man.

00:59:58.080 Like it's, it's not just, I've done the house chores.

01:00:01.600 It is.

01:00:02.520 My children are waging jihad against the order of the house, right?

01:00:06.520 On a daily basis.

01:00:08.240 Um, for example, uh, if you've got boxes full of toys, they won't take the toy that they

01:00:13.140 want out of the box.

01:00:14.580 That box has to go across the living room so they can pick and choose at their leisure

01:00:18.100 for a few seconds until they're bored of that one and the board of that one.

01:00:21.280 And literally it can be your, you go to the toilet, you come back in and it's a, it's a

01:00:27.080 bomb shelter is bomb site.

01:00:28.820 And you can see why after having cleaned and tidied the entire house, your wife at 11am 0.97

01:00:34.540 is just like, Oh my God, I can't believe.

01:00:38.000 And yet she's got no choice.

01:00:39.400 If she wants to have an orderly house, which everyone does, uh, she has to do it.

01:00:44.580 And so it's one of those things where it's, it is a level of personal control that the

01:00:51.420 average PhD student has no idea about.

01:00:55.340 And that's why the PhD student who's like, my God, I feel like I can't think straight.

01:00:59.520 Yeah.

01:00:59.820 I bet you feel that way because that is actually what happens.

01:01:04.620 No matter what it is that you're in the middle of, when there is the emergency, there is

01:01:09.560 the emergency.

01:01:10.420 Yes.

01:01:10.820 And if you don't respond, you could end up with a puddle on the living room floor.

01:01:15.300 Or worse.

01:01:16.020 Or way worse.

01:01:17.220 Or way worse.

01:01:17.640 An infestation.

01:01:18.820 My two-year-old has worked out how to poo and take off his nappy at the same time.

01:01:22.960 Oh, genius.

01:01:24.580 You know, that's so, that's...

01:01:25.880 Complex thinking skills.

01:01:27.780 That's, uh...

01:01:28.420 Yes.

01:01:29.120 Things to be proud of.

01:01:29.960 And, and he's watched me putting clothes into the washing machine.

01:01:32.900 So where is that dirty nappy exactly?

01:01:36.380 Like, it...

01:01:37.980 Or, I'm not joking, like, you know, this whole thing is just like, the women are right about 0.98

01:01:44.840 the stress of being a stay-at-home mum.

01:01:46.940 Then I kind of agree with the BBC for once, because isn't...

01:01:50.280 Solution is basically just a Hungarian family policy. 0.74

01:01:54.240 Well, I mean, the thing is...

01:01:55.760 A tax model that actually incentivizes women to get back to work. 1.00

01:01:58.640 Yeah, but the thing is, like, there will come a time where the children are, like, you

01:02:02.860 know, 10, 11, 12, whatever, and you actually don't need to be at home to look after them,

01:02:06.420 right?

01:02:06.940 They're going to be at school all day, and so the women will want to go back to the 1.00

01:02:09.820 workforce full-time.

01:02:10.980 And that's fine.

01:02:12.000 And actually, I do completely sympathize with the ladies here, saying, well, I have a master's

01:02:15.740 degree, I've, you know, had a corporate career in Starbucks before I became a mum,

01:02:20.280 and the corporations do act as if being a full-time mum was just her laying around on her 0.86

01:02:26.920 laurels, doing nothing, learning nothing, you know, not developing any skills.

01:02:31.320 It's like, no, the opposite.

01:02:33.400 Like, you are developing a massive level of skills in certain things that you didn't realize

01:02:38.660 you needed to do outside of the office.

01:02:40.260 There was a phase when the children discovered that it would be really entertaining to empty

01:02:44.720 the dirty laundry basket and spread it all over the stairs.

01:02:48.180 Oh, that's kind.

01:02:48.740 And it took us a while to get them out of that habit, but then you'd sort of tidy up

01:02:54.240 the living room or the kitchen, you're like, okay, I'm done for the day, and you discover

01:02:57.340 that actually they spent the hour before bedtime tossing the laundry out of the laundry

01:03:02.260 basket onto the stairs, and now you're about to go read them a story, and good luck.

01:03:07.940 You are never done.

01:03:09.580 No.

01:03:09.880 You are never done.

01:03:10.440 And this is one thing that I do think the stay-at-home mums deserve a bit of recognition 1.00

01:03:15.040 in all this.

01:03:15.540 You've got to create some societal gratitude, haven't you?

01:03:18.060 But not just that, because there will come a time where a lot of them will want to go

01:03:21.960 back to work, because the children are now essentially not independent, but, you know.

01:03:26.080 We need to have a stay-at-home mum awareness month.

01:03:29.940 Well, yeah.

01:03:30.800 I actually think that would be much better than transgender awareness, whatever. 1.00

01:03:33.340 Yeah, at least a world stay-at-home mum day to go up on Google once a year, I think.

01:03:38.040 That's UN stuff.

01:03:39.040 We need a whole mum. 1.00

01:03:39.840 Oh, sorry.

01:03:40.440 We need a whole month.

01:03:41.980 Right, right, right.

01:03:43.100 And so, like, I actually am strongly in favour of stay-at-home mothers getting some respect,

01:03:49.860 actually, you know, because this...

01:03:51.440 But doesn't this fundamentally talk to the fact that we don't value kids as well?

01:03:56.640 Because it's the mothers, but the whole point is, and, you know, you look at it from a purely...

01:04:00.600 You can look at it from a utilitarian perspective.

01:04:02.140 You can look at it from any perspective.

01:04:03.220 A child is an economic unit, right? 0.95

01:04:05.360 Let's just say they don't have a soul and a brain, according to West Streeting.

01:04:08.380 Then we can basically just look at them as economic units.

01:04:11.780 Well, you need a functional economic unit to be a better workforce.

01:04:14.240 So who's going to produce that unit for you?

01:04:16.200 It's the mother.

01:04:17.220 And not just that.

01:04:18.380 The sort of Jordan Peterson-esque sort of what kind of people do you want to live around?

01:04:22.240 Yeah.

01:04:22.400 You know, like, children who are raised by their mothers are much more well-adjusted

01:04:26.340 than children who are just shoved into nurseries all day.

01:04:29.060 You know, what kind of people do you want passing in the street?

01:04:31.580 There's an element of it...

01:04:33.400 Sorry.

01:04:35.500 No problem.

01:04:36.080 Bless you.

01:04:37.060 There's an element of it that sort of comes from the fact that social networks between women 0.91

01:04:42.020 are no longer that good.

01:04:43.940 Yes.

01:04:44.700 And into family as well.

01:04:46.040 And within the family.

01:04:47.260 So basically, if you had your sister living next door as a woman, if you were on constantly 0.91

01:04:56.840 good terms with your neighbors because you have similar values and beliefs and you've

01:05:02.680 grown up together, life becomes a lot easier for mothers. 0.89

01:05:06.420 So the atomization of society also erodes these kinds of relationships between women that would 1.00

01:05:17.200 have supported them in the past.

01:05:18.920 And you saw that happen to the British working class when the council houses were built. 0.99

01:05:23.360 For all of the faults of houses pre-council housing for the working class, the way that 1.00

01:05:29.720 these neighborhoods had developed was very organic, meaning that big families lived next to

01:05:35.620 each other.

01:05:36.180 They didn't live in the same house, but they lived next to each other.

01:05:38.740 Takes a village to raise a child.

01:05:39.760 Takes a village to raise a child.

01:05:41.900 So now the real difficulty is that there aren't other women who can sometimes lend a hand.

01:05:49.620 Your children have grown.

01:05:50.840 You sort of go and hang out with your neighbor.

01:05:52.760 And as you do that...

01:05:54.340 All yourself.

01:05:55.340 The fact that it's that atomized for the women is really difficult. 1.00

01:05:59.720 Can I add the entire cottagecore online right, just briefly, because this is the whole point.

01:06:05.740 They look at 1950s housewifery as kind of the ideal standard, and they think everyone

01:06:10.460 lives on a ranch miles apart.

01:06:12.240 No.

01:06:12.980 There were women raising six children and going out to work on top, with normally the fourth 1.00

01:06:18.060 or fifth eldest raising the bottom three.

01:06:20.260 That's the system that we used to have.

01:06:22.020 And that was all the way up to the middle classes.

01:06:23.680 It wasn't some phenom for the working classes. 0.98

01:06:26.280 And there are lots of women comparing themselves to these Instagram trad wives who...

01:06:32.280 And my wife says this to me all the time. 0.78

01:06:33.860 It's like, oh, look, her house is always so tidy.

01:06:37.020 She's got nine kids or whatever she wants, she's following. 0.99

01:06:39.400 How does she do it? 0.99

01:06:40.060 And I'm like, it's all for shades.

01:06:42.120 Most probably.

01:06:42.740 Nine cleaners.

01:06:43.640 Three nannies.

01:06:45.420 Exactly.

01:06:46.000 She'll bring the cleaner in. 1.00

01:06:47.080 Crypto brokerage.

01:06:47.540 To the house and record the video.

01:06:49.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:49.900 And that's, you know, that's...

01:06:51.580 And then you only see that.

01:06:52.960 And you're looking at our living room full of toys and mess and whatnot.

01:06:55.520 And, you know, you say, how does she do this?

01:06:57.160 She doesn't, darling.

01:06:58.060 She doesn't.

01:06:58.640 It's all...

01:06:59.100 There's keeping up appearances, but we're taking that a whole step further.

01:07:02.420 But that's not what this is.

01:07:03.320 No, it's not.

01:07:04.280 It's the room where the camera lives.

01:07:05.860 Exactly, exactly.

01:07:06.900 Yeah.

01:07:07.320 And so it was just one of those things where I, like, for example, the woman saying,

01:07:11.640 you know, my brain feels like jelly.

01:07:12.980 Yeah, I, like, that's what happens.

01:07:15.560 You find yourself not having enough sleep.

01:07:17.600 You find yourself not having enough just personal space.

01:07:20.620 And with the atomization, women end up missing adult interactions. 1.00

01:07:24.940 A lot.

01:07:27.240 So constantly talking to children is itself daunting because you have to talk at the child's level.

01:07:32.560 Yeah. 0.99

01:07:33.360 And that involves just brush your damn teeth already so that we can get moving. 0.99

01:07:39.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:07:39.140 Do this so that we can, you know, move on to the next phase of the day.

01:07:44.300 And children are obviously going to be resistant to being told what to do because that's in their nature.

01:07:49.540 But the impact of that is that you spend all of your energy speaking on these conversations rather on anything that is of a deeper personal interest to you.

01:08:01.000 And you have to spend a lot of energy on these things.

01:08:03.100 And you have to spend a huge amount of energy on these things.

01:08:05.760 And so having some avenue for adult interactions is necessary for women's mental health, really. 1.00

01:08:14.220 But you're in this highly atomized society where you barely have any interactions with your neighbors.

01:08:22.180 And female conversation also is what you're talking about. 1.00

01:08:24.480 Female conversation.

01:08:25.040 It's not just female. 1.00

01:08:26.040 It's adult.

01:08:26.580 My wife.

01:08:27.280 I think it's the adult part.

01:08:29.140 But also, how often do they get to make an interaction with another female friend?

01:08:33.180 That's often part of it.

01:08:35.540 Because, you know, we can come home and talk about tanks at the end of the day.

01:08:38.400 But, you know.

01:08:39.260 But it's not just that.

01:08:41.300 You are absolutely right.

01:08:42.680 It's about, and I've had my wife complain about this. 0.97

01:08:44.560 She's like, I haven't spoken to an adult all day.

01:08:46.680 I just want to have a conversation like I would to any other normal person.

01:08:49.820 Yes.

01:08:50.060 And you can completely understand that, actually, there is a real issue with the breakdown of society.

01:08:57.980 Because, I mean, this is what happened when women en masse entered the workforce. 1.00

01:09:01.260 Like, yeah, okay, well, there were a series of things that women did outside of the economic zone that was what we consider to be society. 1.00

01:09:09.420 Like, you know, the arranging of things.

01:09:11.280 Yeah, the parish.

01:09:11.800 This is why all of the churches are run by church ladies.

01:09:14.400 Yes.

01:09:14.660 One of the consequences, they lived in these networks and they had a center of community, which was the church and the parish center next to the church or whatever it is.

01:09:24.700 And that provided them with these outlets for adult conversation, adult organization, actual work that kept society together and kept the community together.

01:09:34.720 And so you're not going to church anymore.

01:09:37.680 That's a problem.

01:09:38.820 Your family lives far away from you.

01:09:41.500 That's a problem.

01:09:42.160 That's a real problem.

01:09:42.760 Your neighbors are strangers and they're constantly shifted.

01:09:45.700 That's a third problem.

01:09:47.200 So the ability to build lifelong friendships and relationships that are just as necessary for women as they are for men is sort of gutted.

01:09:56.260 I mean, this is the sort of thing that I – I mean, my dad was in the RF, so we moved around all the time.

01:10:00.980 But I'd see it with my cousins, right?

01:10:02.820 When we went to visit them, like, their neighbor – we'd go to their neighbor's house.

01:10:06.260 And so their parents would have some free time while we're, like, playing PlayStation or Nintendo or whatever in their cousin's friend's house, you know.

01:10:13.600 Right.

01:10:14.000 Because everyone knew each other.

01:10:15.360 Everything was – you know, they were all friends and totally trustworthy.

01:10:17.360 They lived next to each other their whole lives.

01:10:19.220 But now women are basically finding themselves completely self-alone. 1.00

01:10:24.880 Like, it's genuinely the sort of rugged individualism has been forced upon stay-at-home mothers. 0.76

01:10:30.180 Yes.

01:10:30.480 And it's rough.

01:10:31.860 Yes.

01:10:32.040 That is really rough.

01:10:33.120 And it doesn't suit the women much more than it doesn't suit the men because women are a lot more social. 0.93

01:10:40.200 Yeah, absolutely.

01:10:40.800 And they need these outlets.

01:10:42.740 They need these, you know –

01:10:45.380 They need help with each other.

01:10:46.580 They also need a meeting place.

01:10:48.560 I think this is something we've forgotten, right?

01:10:49.960 And that used to be the parish.

01:10:51.400 You know, my parish is quite, I would say, forward-thinking, although it's actually looking backwards in what it does.

01:10:57.420 I mean, you know, there are sherry evenings.

01:10:59.660 There are – and these are regular events.

01:11:01.960 These are, you know, at least bi-weekly men's groups, women's groups, you know, parish family days, all that kind of stuff, picnics, whatever it is.

01:11:09.980 There are opportunities for people to meet.

01:11:11.820 They don't have to come to every one, but they can connect and they can go away and they might find out they live next door.

01:11:16.520 Yes.

01:11:16.760 And then they can actually build that network themselves.

01:11:19.020 Yes.

01:11:19.420 But the problem is we don't have – where are you going to meet?

01:11:21.740 Are you going to take your child down the pub?

01:11:23.120 I mean, like –

01:11:24.240 Exactly.

01:11:24.820 They used to, but, like, it's not just that, though, as well.

01:11:27.980 It's like with the loss of the sort of the stay-at-home mum community, I guess we could call it.

01:11:35.740 Yes.

01:11:35.920 It's the unexpected intercessions, right, where, like, oh, little James and his sister are going over to Bonnie's house to, you know, because she's baking a cake and do your kids want to come over for a few hours?

01:11:50.340 And, you know, the mother's like, oh, thank God, a couple of hours.

01:11:53.660 I can get the house clean.

01:11:54.820 I can have a bit of peace and quiet for a couple – for an hour or so.

01:11:57.500 So, like, these random events that alleviate some of the burden –

01:12:01.620 Yes.

01:12:01.920 – all disappear.

01:12:02.880 Yes.

01:12:03.180 And you've also got to check that the surname isn't Blue because that would be a real problem.

01:12:06.240 Well, yeah, obviously, yeah.

01:12:07.180 I was just a name off the top of my head.

01:12:08.780 I was trying to think of an old-fashioned name.

01:12:11.080 But the, you know, the point is that there were always these series of unexpected and pleasant surprises that, you know – and then you'd do the same for them.

01:12:19.340 You know, it's always like, you know, I'm going to go down the shop.

01:12:20.860 There's always a gift and dig because it's a neighbourhood.

01:12:22.560 Yeah, exactly.

01:12:23.140 I'm walking down to the local shop, you know, do your kids want to ride their bikes down with my kids?

01:12:27.500 And then you've got an hour to yourself.

01:12:29.220 And it was always this small, like, lattice of things that are happening.

01:12:33.540 And that's just disappeared.

01:12:35.340 And if you could have them play with other children, you could sort of say, well, you know, you get to play in this room and you don't get to go up to the bedrooms.

01:12:43.120 Whereas if it's your children on their own, they have free run of the house.

01:12:47.360 Free run of the whole house.

01:12:48.180 And so the damage is contained to one room, whereas we're working on the others.

01:12:52.820 So this ability to shift burdens by having social networks is absolutely critical.

01:12:59.580 And now it's just mom on her own.

01:13:02.640 Yes.

01:13:03.020 There is a practical element as well about knowing who your kids are playing with.

01:13:06.920 That's the other issue that now, because I think a lot of parents, particularly conservative parents, get insular because they feel like they're going to be literally going around to Bonnie Blue's house or whoever.

01:13:16.080 It could be literally anyone.

01:13:17.200 You know, if you just let your kids play in the street, they're probably going to end up, you know, coming back with Wes Streeting on your case or whatever.

01:13:21.880 This is generally one of the problems, is that you don't, because of the diversification of society and the mobility that people demonstrate in society now, like not social mobility, but like physical mobility.

01:13:33.620 Yes.

01:13:34.460 You don't know who the people are around you.

01:13:36.680 And so.

01:13:37.340 No stranger danger is real.

01:13:38.920 Well, it's not even, it's not even that you think like that.

01:13:41.860 It's just that you don't know that person.

01:13:44.160 You don't know.

01:13:44.500 It's a low trust society.

01:13:45.480 Exactly.

01:13:46.120 And so you never built a bond with them.

01:13:47.620 And so it's not that they can just go to that kid's house or their kids can come into your house.

01:13:51.620 It just doesn't work that way.

01:13:53.640 So the erosion of shared values means that you don't trust your neighbors as much as you could.

01:13:58.180 Yes.

01:13:58.520 As much as you should in a healthy society.

01:14:00.860 And the source of these shared values was pretty obvious.

01:14:06.060 And it was in part homogeneity and familiarity and people growing up next to each other and being able to say, well, he's my childhood friend.

01:14:14.020 Of course, I trust him and his wife.

01:14:15.420 And this is gone.

01:14:18.420 And the atomization is daunting.

01:14:21.660 It's really exhausting.

01:14:22.580 And especially for women. 0.57

01:14:23.900 And this is the point of all of this, is that it is not unreasonable for this PhD woman, you know, scientist, to be like, I am frazzled trying to raise just two children as well.

01:14:36.720 You know, just two.

01:14:38.100 You know, completely frazzled.

01:14:41.340 I can't seem to, like, find anything solid or secure to stand on.

01:14:46.340 No, I've got no one helping me.

01:14:47.420 I'm on my own during the day.

01:14:49.540 And by the end of it, I just want to have an adult conversation and a bit of quiet.

01:14:52.960 Yes.

01:14:53.140 You know, that is a totally reasonable response to the circumstances that are put in.

01:14:57.840 But they shouldn't really be in these circumstances.

01:15:00.280 They should have wider networks of support.

01:15:02.040 And modern liberal capitalism, as we are in, actively undermines that.

01:15:09.900 Yes.

01:15:10.200 And deliberately makes this more difficult.

01:15:11.940 Yes.

01:15:13.500 Anyway.

01:15:14.200 So that's our version of feminism. 1.00

01:15:15.680 It's loving women as women being women.

01:15:20.600 Not wanting them to be men.

01:15:22.840 That's the long and short of it.

01:15:24.520 And having their own networks and their own independence and their own parallel society.

01:15:28.840 I actually am against rugged individualism for mums.

01:15:32.040 Yes.

01:15:32.420 I am against it.

01:15:33.340 And I think that's what, genuinely, as you say, a proper, like, feminism, like, a womanism, 0.98

01:15:37.820 would actually be more geared towards making that life easier.

01:15:41.440 Yes.

01:15:42.040 And that's, I think, what would be more helpful.

01:15:43.680 And it involves a high-trust society.

01:15:45.500 And it involves a shared set of values.

01:15:47.600 And it involves stable housing situations for people.

01:15:51.180 And it involves development, economic development, across the board, not just in London and the southeast.

01:15:58.180 When you think this way, it has implications for pretty much everything.

01:16:03.420 So if you put life first, and if you put the welfare of children first, naturally, you put the welfare of mothers first. 0.96

01:16:09.120 And then you ask yourself, what is the best society for a mother to function in? 1.00

01:16:12.880 Well, it's got to be high trust.

01:16:14.460 It's got to be economically stable.

01:16:16.020 It's got to have shared values.

01:16:17.500 It's got to have good neighborhoods.

01:16:19.400 Everything else follows from that.

01:16:20.680 And you can tell that this would be a community that had a kind of internal vitality.

01:16:27.380 Yes.

01:16:27.660 Rather than a series of individuals who feel like they're barely hanging.

01:16:32.420 And that's the irony of the left, because they're always trying to cater for outliers.

01:16:36.260 Yes.

01:16:36.600 But only in a society like that are outliers catered for.

01:16:39.660 Yes.

01:16:39.900 Exactly.

01:16:40.380 That's the problem.

01:16:40.960 So in a society like that, if family X had a tragedy, and the father was out of work, or died, or whatever, you can easily see the community coming together and saying, well, we have a duty towards this family.

01:16:53.960 Yes.

01:16:54.320 And we have a duty towards these children.

01:16:55.860 Of course.

01:16:56.040 And we want to make sure that, you know, their living standards may not be the same, but they're not living in property.

01:17:02.620 They're not going to go hungry.

01:17:03.760 They're not living in property.

01:17:04.920 They're not going to go hungry.

01:17:05.760 They have clothes.

01:17:06.460 They have food.

01:17:07.000 They have the basic necessities.

01:17:08.980 In a charity like that, you can afford to be charitable to your neighbors.

01:17:12.400 Yeah.

01:17:13.460 Whereas what we have here is a new coerced charity by the state, which ends up supporting the worst elements of society.

01:17:20.000 And you would want to help your neighbors as well, but you wouldn't resent it.

01:17:23.120 Like, I'm, you know, the new tax year is coming up, and man, am I already really resentful.

01:17:27.440 Like, insanely resentful.

01:17:29.060 So, you know, but I wouldn't, obviously, I'd be very happy to help.

01:17:32.600 Yes, exactly.

01:17:34.340 So anyway, the point being is the way that we're doing social life and family life is just wrong.

01:17:38.740 And I'm actually very sympathetic to what state-owned mothers have to go through, frankly, on a daily basis.

01:17:44.980 So thanks, darling.

01:17:45.760 I much appreciate your sacrifice.

01:17:48.320 Do we have a...

01:17:49.100 Love our wives.

01:17:49.880 Yeah.

01:17:50.180 Do we have video comments today, Harry?

01:17:53.120 No, right.

01:17:55.160 Okay, great.

01:17:56.060 Martin says, invoking Christian morality, we shall too.

01:17:59.280 Let those who lead the little ones astray be thrown into the sea with the millstones around their necks.

01:18:03.360 There we go.

01:18:04.040 Yes.

01:18:04.760 Yeah.

01:18:05.500 Oh, man.

01:18:06.360 You're so much.

01:18:07.240 It was mad, wasn't it? 0.86

01:18:08.600 Omar says, the term for someone who experiments in defiance of nature and the natural order is a mad scientist.

01:18:14.640 Excuse me. 0.94

01:18:15.780 These lunatics are so steeped in the sin of pride that they think they can play God ethically. 0.98

01:18:19.100 And that's the thing. 0.98

01:18:21.080 It's just so mad that they say, yeah, so we're going to experiment on some kids now.

01:18:28.340 Irreversible, irrevocable, and possibly life-threatening experiments.

01:18:34.200 And we're just going to do this.

01:18:36.000 It's just normal.

01:18:37.040 Because this is what the scientific process requires.

01:18:39.620 Yeah.

01:18:40.080 Because this is what the process requires.

01:18:41.700 This is what will set these children free.

01:18:45.140 Insane.

01:18:46.520 Baron from Warhawk says, and it literally is creating eunuchs.

01:18:50.140 We're going to create a eunuch class. 0.99

01:18:51.840 Yes. 0.99

01:18:52.360 For whatever goddamn reason. 0.99

01:18:55.360 In any other period in history, these types of doctors who want to experiment on children by injecting them with chemicals and slicing apart genitals would have been burned at the stake by now. 0.98

01:19:02.980 History will not look upon this favorably.

01:19:04.660 Yeah, it's pretty mad.

01:19:07.580 There should be trials for all of these people at some point.

01:19:09.760 There have to be trials.

01:19:11.400 The thing is, I don't think there will be.

01:19:13.320 Because I think that they, because they sincerely believe what they are doing is right, nobody believes them to be evil.

01:19:24.080 Right?

01:19:25.460 I mean.

01:19:26.680 Like, the average person doesn't think.

01:19:29.120 The average child sacrificer thinks that he is doing the right thing to appease the gods.

01:19:32.680 This should be treated in the exact same way.

01:19:34.760 Yeah, but there's no just anger.

01:19:36.840 That's the problem.

01:19:37.700 Yeah.

01:19:37.920 There should be just anger.

01:19:39.040 Yeah, but there should be.

01:19:40.420 Why isn't there?

01:19:41.260 That's the question.

01:19:41.420 There isn't because everyone's been pacified.

01:19:43.860 Everyone would prefer to just go along.

01:19:46.220 You see it all the time.

01:19:47.560 There's that famous experiment where, you know, someone gets treated unfairly in a class and the whole point of the experiment is to show that no one does anything about it.

01:19:54.060 We've been neutered as a society.

01:19:56.060 We don't have a just morality.

01:19:57.120 I think it's more than that.

01:19:58.500 I think that basically the prevailing morality of our society is more freedom is better, right?

01:20:06.100 And so we're streetings of the world saying, well, we're trying to provide these poor children with more freedom.

01:20:12.240 Yes.

01:20:12.440 It aligns with the prevailing morality.

01:20:15.820 It goes back to frameworks because what is freedom?

01:20:18.260 Well, yeah, exactly.

01:20:19.080 I mean, don't get me wrong.

01:20:19.900 Freedom is just totally different to ours.

01:20:21.660 Completely agree, obviously.

01:20:22.900 But the point is that it doesn't flag up red flags for us, right?

01:20:28.740 Whereas if someone's like, well, I'm a practicing Aztec and now I have to sacrifice some humans, we would naturally take umbrage with it because it goes so against the grain of our own morality.

01:20:39.880 But I think the problem is because it's flowing down the same river of our own morality, we just can't muster the outrage and the indignancy.

01:20:47.080 Yep.

01:20:47.440 Steve says, I think the only way that I will be okay with this is if we perform these experiments on life sentence criminals.

01:20:54.760 The thing is there are no children serving life sentences, so it can't be done.

01:20:59.780 So basically it should be an area of science that is essentially effectively off limits for moral reasons, if not for the practical reason of dementing a person's body.

01:21:10.040 Ben says, I don't think Christianity is actually a solution to this.

01:21:13.140 But Christianity failed to stop this, failed to condemn it, and in many cases openly supports it, so all of the cope of atheists did this falls flat.

01:21:20.860 Don't go to megachurch, Pastor Bob.

01:21:23.840 Firstly, and secondly, I mean the 20th century is most characterized by atheism, arguably the 19th as well.

01:21:31.500 So, no.

01:21:32.380 Definitely the 20th.

01:21:33.660 Definitely the 20th.

01:21:34.240 The beginning of the 19th was the high watermark of, like, Protestant proselytizing across Africa and wherever else. 0.55

01:21:43.180 So, you know, I don't think I'd argue for that, but definitely the latter of the 20th century has just been the death of religion.

01:21:48.620 Also, the earlier half.

01:21:51.520 Well, I mean, I would have said a slow decline than a falling off cliff, right?

01:21:58.260 Yes.

01:21:59.460 If you want to know what Christianity thinks about this, ask an African Christian the same question. 0.84

01:22:04.900 Exactly.

01:22:05.400 Where they haven't been tainted by this ideology, and they'll tell you the answer.

01:22:08.280 Yes.

01:22:09.120 Exactly.

01:22:10.820 Thanks, Scotty says, it's all well and fair saying, don't hate the player, hate the game.

01:22:14.400 Oh, no, I'm being called out now.

01:22:15.980 But people have agency.

01:22:17.220 So, no, I will hate the player.

01:22:18.840 And the game.

01:22:19.460 The game is being held up by players who choose to do so.

01:22:22.380 Okay.

01:22:22.960 He's got me here.

01:22:23.800 I mean, you know, what am I going to say to this?

01:22:25.580 Moral determinism in South Bangladesh is at an all-time low.

01:22:30.420 I should be able to hate groups of people whose culture is based on lying and deception,

01:22:33.440 especially when it's an attempt to try and pass themselves off as one of my countrymen and ideological fellows. 0.98

01:22:38.420 Skinwalkers, changelings, sirens. 1.00

01:22:40.320 We have traditional warnings about creatures which appear to be human, but which aren't.

01:22:44.180 People who wear your face in an attempt to deceive you for their own benefit should be despised and genuinely cascaded.

01:22:50.020 Okay, ask me told.

01:22:52.660 What am I going to say to that?

01:22:54.160 I don't think there's an answer, mate.

01:22:56.640 Move on.

01:22:57.800 There's literally no comeback to this.

01:22:59.620 We thank you, Thane, Scotty, and we agree with you.

01:23:02.220 I concede the point.

01:23:05.520 Geordie Salsman says,

01:23:06.580 Inevitable West is obviously Josh's alt.

01:23:08.740 How can he ensure a steady stream of segment material?

01:23:11.180 Yeah.

01:23:12.400 And Omar says,

01:23:13.560 The slop accounts have been doing their thing, too, 1.00

01:23:15.360 where they announced breaking news, such and such account as Indian,

01:23:19.720 where they've self-admitted it on their timeline years ago.

01:23:22.600 Doubtless.

01:23:22.960 Stay-at-home mums on that bit. 0.99

01:23:26.080 The mother of hate monsters says, 1.00

01:23:27.820 I've been a stay-at-home mum for 20 years, and these women are fuck shit. 1.00

01:23:34.400 Tell us about your neighbours. 1.00

01:23:35.980 It's not that hard.

01:23:37.280 It's literally what you were built for.

01:23:39.140 Yes, it can be tiring times.

01:23:40.700 There's literally nothing I would rather have done.

01:23:42.420 Now my kids are 20 and 15.

01:23:43.640 I miss them being younger and all the ups and downs that went with it.

01:23:45.880 It was awesome.

01:23:46.340 So what I like is that, you know, I think that what we were saying was generally true,

01:23:51.820 but there are always outliers, right?

01:23:53.480 You've got the mums who are just built for this kind of thing, who got it down. 1.00

01:23:58.600 In fairness, is what their build is for.

01:24:01.220 It is true.

01:24:01.800 And I'm not commenting on her particular situation, but like, for example, with my eldest son,

01:24:08.920 he was absolutely just the most lovely, cooperative child in the world.

01:24:14.940 Right.

01:24:15.080 He was good all the time.

01:24:16.740 Right.

01:24:16.900 And we left it about like six, seven years until we had more.

01:24:21.960 And we took for granted just how lovely and cooperative he was, because the other two are

01:24:27.260 little terrors and it is built into them in the various earliest moments.

01:24:32.020 It is part of the core person that they are, that they will just act in the way the character

01:24:38.260 is.

01:24:38.940 And so we were very lucky with the older two.

01:24:41.640 And I mean, we're very lucky with the younger two, but they are just stop doing stuff.

01:24:47.180 Well, you actually, you made a really good point that can be reversed earlier, which is

01:24:51.040 that you learn this set of skills through being a stay at home mom, but society used to teach

01:24:55.820 those skills before you got there.

01:24:57.600 And because society is geared towards going into career for both men and women, you don't

01:25:03.240 learn what it means to be a father or a mother.

01:25:05.680 And you don't.

01:25:06.040 And also siblings don't have the same interaction they used to in larger families.

01:25:09.400 And if you have a larger family, the eldest children are trained to take care of the child.

01:25:16.400 I'm the de facto mother at some age, because you pull your, you pull your little brother

01:25:21.620 off the edge of a cliff or whatever, then you're already.

01:25:24.160 Like my, my eldest daughter does this.

01:25:25.840 My eldest daughter does take care of the other two extremely well.

01:25:29.200 And you can see that she's learning skills that are going to help her.

01:25:34.280 And you can see that there, the more of them there is, the more of them are going to learn

01:25:39.020 this skill.

01:25:39.840 And it's part instinct.

01:25:40.920 That's why there are these stereotypes about the youngest kid being always lazy.

01:25:44.540 There are all kinds of stereotypes about the youngest.

01:25:46.500 Oh, he's going to be absolutely lazy and spoiled.

01:25:48.760 Whereas for the others, it's just not an option.

01:25:51.480 You have to take care of somebody smaller than you, and you have to learn how to do that. 0.53

01:25:55.480 Not only that, they, they are occupying them as well.

01:25:58.080 Yes.

01:25:58.240 A lot of the trouble that my youngest two get into is when they're just bored.

01:26:01.860 Yes.

01:26:02.200 Oh, you know, my, my four-year-old will find something and he'll bring over the two-year-old

01:26:05.700 and there'll be water all over the place. 0.69

01:26:07.860 And if there was like, you know, a seven or eight-year-old around also playing with them,

01:26:11.880 that wouldn't have happened.

01:26:13.100 Yes.

01:26:13.300 You know what I mean?

01:26:13.580 Correct.

01:26:14.120 Because they will get it in the neck from the parents.

01:26:16.240 But they would.

01:26:17.040 Yeah, they would.

01:26:17.480 I'm bored.

01:26:18.100 Let's destroy things.

01:26:19.140 Oh, yeah.

01:26:20.340 That's such an ingrained impulse.

01:26:22.500 You see it in dogs.

01:26:23.480 You see it in children.

01:26:24.380 You see it in human beings.

01:26:26.000 It's not that children aren't human beings.

01:26:28.300 Yeah.

01:26:28.400 Yeah, let's just compare children to dogs.

01:26:32.080 It's in our nature.

01:26:34.380 Lady Sarcastro says,

01:26:36.260 Child psychologists have been saying for years that children need a parent at home for at least the first six years,

01:26:42.100 preferably 12 years with the absolute ideal of 18 years.

01:26:44.580 Study after study shows the reason our children are going off the rails is usually due to a lack of mothers going back to work too soon. 0.75

01:26:51.360 I don't know how we make staying at home socially acceptable yet, but we really need to.

01:26:55.080 Well, this is part of the reason.

01:26:56.560 You have to build a whole community around it.

01:26:58.360 All of society has to be geared towards the welfare of women. 1.00

01:27:04.180 And the welfare of women doesn't mean them going to the workplace. 1.00

01:27:06.740 These are two different things.

01:27:07.540 It's the welfare of children, but that requires the welfare of women, and that requires the work of the men. 0.99

01:27:13.160 So there's outward concentric circles on this.

01:27:15.800 But that's, Lady Sarcastro, this is the reason I was covering this.

01:27:18.640 It's like, look, it was in particular this guy's TikTok, where I was just like, man, you've no idea what's coming.

01:27:25.640 You have no idea.

01:27:26.500 If you think stay-at-home mom's being lazy, you have no idea what you're in for. 0.99

01:27:30.980 It's all my one-year-old.

01:27:31.600 Hold on.

01:27:32.460 Logan has something to say, and I want to sort of let him say it.

01:27:35.600 Look, I don't care how much they complain.

01:27:37.820 If I find a woman that's willing to be a stay-at-home mom, I'm putting a ring on her. 1.00

01:27:41.680 I don't care if I have to work 60-plus hours to support her. 0.84

01:27:44.600 That is the right attitude.

01:27:46.600 Yes, absolutely.

01:27:48.780 But this chap, for me, there was some sort of pleasant naivete about it.

01:27:56.100 Because they take a mid-morning nap, and they take a mid-afternoon nap,

01:28:00.100 and then mealtime just involves sitting them in a chair and feeding them,

01:28:03.680 and it takes, what, 20 minutes, half an hour?

01:28:05.960 And they can't do anything.

01:28:06.780 And they can't cause the kind of damage.

01:28:09.600 Which they will.

01:28:10.860 My eldest, when she was one, she could do things.

01:28:16.480 Yeah, it's not that they can't do things.

01:28:17.860 It's just that they don't have the sort of manual dexterity and physical power

01:28:20.680 to really do anything terribly destructive.

01:28:24.660 Mostly it's opening drawers, finding jars, and throwing them.

01:28:27.240 Yeah, but, you know, that's, the thing is, it gets worse.

01:28:32.420 Yes.

01:28:32.660 Anyway, and Arizona Desert Rat says,

01:28:35.660 if your children are ungrateful, that's most likely a you problem.

01:28:38.600 Gratitude is almost always needed to be taught,

01:28:40.280 since a child's default setting is selfishness.

01:28:42.060 That's definitely true.

01:28:43.100 Yes.

01:28:43.760 And stay-at-home moms and dads are also the people usually volunteering

01:28:47.360 at schools and charities, and as you were pointing out on the local parish,

01:28:51.160 which is definitely true.

01:28:52.600 But anyway, so thank you for joining us, folks.

01:28:55.560 Thanks for joining us.

01:28:56.980 Joseph, where can people find more from you?

01:28:59.580 Well, on X, you can follow me at jrtypes,

01:29:02.320 and josephrobertsonuk on Instagram,

01:29:05.180 and jrtypes on Substack as well.

01:29:07.000 Okay, great.

01:29:07.500 And we're going to be going live, Joseph and I, in half an hour

01:29:10.980 and having a long conversation about the condition of Britain

01:29:14.900 and how to fix it, what to expect from reform,

01:29:18.600 a lot of other juicy subjects.

01:29:20.260 So please join us in half an hour.

01:29:22.600 We'll see you there, folks.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - November 24, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1302

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